West Ham and Aston Villa interested in signing free agent Nicolás Gaitán
• Sheffield United also in frame for 31-year-old winger
• Gaitán’s contract at Chicago Fire expires in December
Nicolás Gaitán could be on his way to the Premier League in January, with West Ham, Aston Villa and Sheffield United interested in signing the former Argentina winger on a two-year deal.
The 31-year-old is available on a free transfer with his contract at MLS side Chicago Fire due to expire at the end of December. Gaitán, who was perennially linked with a move to Manchester United during his spell at Benfica, has an option to remain in the United States for another year but is understood to favour a return to Europe. He spent the previous season at Chinese side Dalian Yifang.
His return of four goals and 11 assists in 27 MLS appearances has alerted West Ham, with initial talks understood to have taken place between the sporting director, Mario Husillos, and the player’s representative, Matias Lipman, over a January move.
Manuel Pellegrini’s side are struggling in the lower half of the table as they prepare to face Tottenham on Saturday in José Mourinho’s first match since taking over from Mauricio Pochettino.
Resolving West Ham’s defensive issues is the priority for the transfer window, although the manager is believed to have requested more attacking reinforcements as well.
West Ham are expected to face competition from Villa for Gaitán’s signature, while Chris Wilder’s United have also registered an interest. The former Atlético Madrid player has won 16 caps for Argentina but has not made an international appearance since 2016.
Cavani and Bale on loan till the end of the season will do me.
Just put out a statement of intent and sign Erling Braut Haland.Born in Leeds, Alfie's son
Jared Bowen pleaseYep. And a striker. I'd take Mitrovic.
... I think we could let Chester and Kodjia go on frees with their contracts running out in the summer. The long forgotten Croatian keeper surely could go out on loan.Agreed.
Mitrovic? Fuck no. He did nothing at Premier League level last year. We should be targeting far better than him.Absolutely!
I'd like Michy Batshuayi, seems to score goals but never gets a decent run at Chelski.
Just put out a statement of intent and sign Erling Braut Haland.
I wouldn't mind us taking a punt on Bradley Dack. 38 goals in 99 games for Blackburn since he signed for them in 2017. Bearing in mind Blackburn are not the most attacking team in the Championship.
I wouldn't mind us taking a punt on Bradley Dack. 38 goals in 99 games for Blackburn since he signed for them in 2017. Bearing in mind Blackburn are not the most attacking team in the Championship.
He's a good player, but they were talking about a £18m-20m price tag in the summer. I think we can get better value than that.
Michy Batshuayi Would be an interesting one.
But Mitrovic? Jesus no!
I wouldn't mind us taking a punt on Bradley Dack. 38 goals in 99 games for Blackburn since he signed for them in 2017. Bearing in mind Blackburn are not the most attacking team in the Championship.
He's a good player, but they were talking about a £18m-20m price tag in the summer. I think we can get better value than that.
There is no way he will go for that money. Blackburn aren't flush with cash and five million would get him.
Ibe is shit and Bowen is a troublemaker...Someone quick, who can cross and take his chances
Jared Bowen and Jordan Ibe are both out of contract in summer .
I think suitable bids for them to bring in window would be good business.
Jordan Ibe would be some one Smith could re energise.
Bowen has good quality.
Morelos has a fucking appauling temperemant. Sent off 6 times last season, fart by him and he'll lash out.No, just the 5 😉...none so far this season
Ollie Watkins from Brentford would be a good shout. Second top scorer in the Championship and can play both centrally and wide.
Morelos has a fucking appauling temperemant. Sent off 6 times last season, fart by him and he'll lash out.No, just the 5 😉...none so far this season
Seriously though, Bowen a troublemaker?That's what I thought I'd read somewhere; perhaps I've mixed him up with someone else.
Alrbighton on loan
Bowen on a permanent
Giroud on loan
New front three and someone to teach Wes a thing or two.
Revisit the centre forward in the Summer. It'll be the signing to take us from a relegation battler to midtable so we need to get it right. Morelos looks exciting but he'd cost even more in January and he may take time to adapt down here.
Batsuhuayi would be great but I can’t see it happening - origi or Giroud would probably get enough goals to keep us up but it would mean effectively writing off our Brazilian star signing - maybe a player who can provide for our existing forward would be a better option?So what happens if or when Wes gets injured? We all know JK isn’t good enough at this level and Davis is injury prone and hasn’t had enough game time to prove himself. We‘ve seen glimpses from Wes but we need a natural goalscorer to work and run the line a lot more than what Wes has done so far. It’s far too early to write him off but if we want to stay up then solely relying on Wes isn’t the answer.
but it would mean effectively writing off our Brazilian star signing - maybe a player who can provide for our existing forward would be a better option?Or we accept that the problem is the Centre Forward
Alrbighton on loan
Bowen on a permanent
Giroud on loan
New front three and someone to teach Wes a thing or two.
Revisit the centre forward in the Summer. It'll be the signing to take us from a relegation battler to midtable so we need to get it right. Morelos looks exciting but he'd cost even more in January and he may take time to adapt down here.
but it would mean effectively writing off our Brazilian star signing - maybe a player who can provide for our existing forward would be a better option?Or we accept that the problem is the Centre Forward
Can't see Chelsea letting Giroud go when they can't sign anyone. Would be a bit mad to leave themselves with just Tammy.
but it would mean effectively writing off our Brazilian star signing - maybe a player who can provide for our existing forward would be a better option?Or we accept that the problem is the Centre Forward
Every Premier League club has more than one option at centre forward. It's not a case of writing off Wesley if we sign another, just having another option, especially if it's a different type of forward.
Can't see Chelsea letting Giroud go when they can't sign anyone. Would be a bit mad to leave themselves with just Tammy.
He's barely been making the bench in last six weeks so you'd think he'd want to go out on loan at least to get regular games ahead of euro 2020.
Under no illusions though that many clubs in europe would be after him so seems pretty unlikely.
Actually there was supposed to be a link with Buendia today and he wouldn't be a bad pick up as he plays the number 10 role well (at least in the championship) and we certainly need some alternative to Jack when he's injured. Scored the winner at VP on last day of the season.
We've been linked today with bring in Brewster from Liverpool on loan. He looks a prospect but I don't think he's top of the list for what we need right now. Zlatan Ibrahimović is available. I've heard he's not bad.
We've been linked today with bring in Brewster from Liverpool on loan. He looks a prospect but I don't think he's top of the list for what we need right now. Zlatan Ibrahimović is available. I've heard he's not bad.
We've been linked today with bring in Brewster from Liverpool on loan. He looks a prospect but I don't think he's top of the list for what we need right now. Zlatan Ibrahimović is available. I've heard he's not bad.
Apparently we asked Liverpool how much Brewster would cost and the answer was "Brewster's Millions".
Bowen for me, no idea why he hasn’t been snapped up by someone yet. Absolutely a quality player IMO.
Bowen for me, no idea why he hasn’t been snapped up by someone yet. Absolutely a quality player IMO.
Someone said his old man is a Villa fan too.
"I have seen a few things recently, let's sign Jarod Bowen, he's a Villa fan," Bowen told Soccer Saturday. "I am like, I want to reply, but I'm not a Villa fan. It's my Dad who is a Villa fan. Let's just get this straight.
We really need some pace in the attacking areas, how quick is Bowen? Jack is no slouch but pace isn't his key asset. Wesley isn't quick at all, and Trezeguet and El Ghazi aren't especially fast when they have the ball.
I would be shocked if Bowen isnt a Villa player by end of Jan (no itk just gut feel)
Newcastle signed him for 25m.
Saint-Maximin, cost them about £16m plus potential add-ons reportedly. He's an exciting player but lacks end product at the moment, similar to how Adama was. I always believe you can teach a player the end product part, harder to teach them to be exciting.
Newcastle signed him for 25m.
Ah, bugger. My £2 million plus Hogan scheme might not entice them, then.
He had some ability but I think AEG and Trez are both better players and we got them for little more than he cost.
TalkSport, Jesus wept, just said that McGinn and Grealish have been linked to a move away!!! Maybe last year they were, but we have a win on tv yesterday and they are already stirring it up.
TalkSport, Jesus wept, just said that McGinn and Grealish have been linked to a move away!!! Maybe last year they were, but we have a win on tv yesterday and they are already stirring it up.
We will likely hear a lot more of this nonsense in the run up to Sunday. Man U have always leaked these kind of "links" before their games.
Good news is that they paid nearly £300 million for Maguire, Wan-Bissaka and Pogba, so we could demand at least £8 trillion for either McGinn or Grealish. Let alone both.
£62 million for Taylor and I'd even consider throwing Hogan in to sweeten the deal.
TalkSport, Jesus wept, just said that McGinn and Grealish have been linked to a move away!!! Maybe last year they were, but we have a win on tv yesterday and they are already stirring it up.
Links these days seem to be Tweets and and wishful thinking on fans forums. The asking price for these 2 will be astronomical.
There are many things to take issue with over Talkshite, but the worst for me is that arrogant, know nothing Cockney Red gobshite Andy Goldstein, the poster boy for thick as shit, gloryhunting banter merchants.
We already have good players. If we want to improve we need to be targeting insanely dead brilliant players I reckon. For a striker in that category, you're looking at £40 million plus, unless we could entice someone like Cavani near the end of his career. He could be the signing that Nilis should have been. If it's between us and some nonsense team like Los Angeles Super Ducks or New York Green Pants, it might be worth, at least, enquiring.
We already have good players. If we want to improve we need to be targeting insanely dead brilliant players I reckon. For a striker in that category, you're looking at £40 million plus, unless we could entice someone like Cavani near the end of his career. He could be the signing that Nilis should have been. If it's between us and some nonsense team like Los Angeles Super Ducks or New York Green Pants, it might be worth, at least, enquiring.
2 names mentioned today by the same guy who told me we were looking at the aguero style striker towards the end of the window.
Dembele from Lyon
Morales from Rangers
He said he would be amazed if we didnt sign one or the other but aparently barring injuries we are only looking at strikers in january. Even if we sell sjm to Man United we wont be breaking the bank to replace him either.
I cant help think back to when city and Chelsea became rich and they went through the patch of signing footballing mercenaries before their league position started to attract better players and I think that's the more likely route we will be going down this winter/next summer.
Let's just hope whoever we sign keeps us up because at the moment I'm slightly worried and smith worries me a little too but I am seeing improvements in his management style
Assume it’s been covered extensively above but I’d have Mitrivoc in a blink, even if I do hate him,However he, once again, didn't do well in the Premier League.
Not sure about Benteke, but feel he would suit our style. I'd be willing to try him on loan to see if the magic comes back. Not sure Palace would be up for that if there's still a realistic chance that they could go down come January.
Now what could be interesting is a move for one of the promising players from the Dutch top league.
It's called the Dutch eridivise.
I quite like Davis, but not sure how many goals he'd get.
Let's get Benteke.
I quite like Davis, but not sure how many goals he'd get.
Let's get Benteke.
Benteke's stats are woeful. He has scored four league goals since August 2017. Not like he's had any bad injuries in that spell like he did for us either.
He's lost his desire imo, just happy living in London earning good money and knowing his career is going nowhere. I'd stay well clear and just remember the good times when he was here.
Same here.I quite like Davis, but not sure how many goals he'd get.
Let's get Benteke.
Benteke's stats are woeful. He has scored four league goals since August 2017. Not like he's had any bad injuries in that spell like he did for us either.
He's lost his desire imo, just happy living in London earning good money and knowing his career is going nowhere. I'd stay well clear and just remember the good times when he was here.
Agreed.
2 more goals for Bowen tonight I see, time to snap him up
I quite like Davis, but not sure how many goals he'd get.
Let's get Benteke.
Benteke's stats are woeful. He has scored four league goals since August 2017. Not like he's had any bad injuries in that spell like he did for us either.
He's lost his desire imo, just happy living in London earning good money and knowing his career is going nowhere. I'd stay well clear and just remember the good times when he was here.
Complete works of Disney thinking Benteke is being re signed.
More chance of signing Darren Bent and Nathan Ake.
We won't be spending big from what seems to have been written in the media. I think one or two tops.
The consensus is that we probably need to upgrade the wide/attacking players.
Though with the emergence of Konsa as an assured player (comfortable in possession) and assuming Chester makes a return, I wonder whether we might play three at the back and push Guilbert and Targett further forward.
If the present wide/attacking players demonstrated they could be more disciplined defensively then they would also be in contention for being Wing-backs.
It also, arguably, gives a better option to accommodate Grealish, SJM, Douglas Luiz and Nakamba in a way that gets one or more of them closer to Wesley.
A proven goalscorer is always a good addition, but switching to the above might make it less of a priority for January - which often is a tough market offering poor value. UTV
I quite like Davis, but not sure how many goals he'd get.
Let's get Benteke.
Benteke's stats are woeful. He has scored four league goals since August 2017. Not like he's had any bad injuries in that spell like he did for us either.
He's lost his desire imo, just happy living in London earning good money and knowing his career is going nowhere. I'd stay well clear and just remember the good times when he was here.
I'd take Benteke back on loan in a second. He signed a new contract with Palace in the Summer so they'd probably want silly money for him permanently, but may be open to a loan deal. At worst he'd be a decent option to bring in for Wes if he's struggling/needs a break.
Quincy Promes of Ajax is a good player but be a big take to get him.
Can play wide forward and Dutch international he's joint leader scorer and one many would have heard of and seen play for Ajax or Holland.
If we signed Benteke it would show we have not learned anything from the days of signing overpaid has beens, ala Mica Richards. Too many on here have rose tinted specs if they think that this is the same player from 2013 - 2015.
Young and hungry is the way, not old and on easy street.
We won't be spending big from what seems to have been written in the media. I think one or two tops.
Disagree CD, if you have good wingbacks and disciplined, mobile CB.The consensus is that we probably need to upgrade the wide/attacking players.
Though with the emergence of Konsa as an assured player (comfortable in possession) and assuming Chester makes a return, I wonder whether we might play three at the back and push Guilbert and Targett further forward.
If the present wide/attacking players demonstrated they could be more disciplined defensively then they would also be in contention for being Wing-backs.
It also, arguably, gives a better option to accommodate Grealish, SJM, Douglas Luiz and Nakamba in a way that gets one or more of them closer to Wesley.
A proven goalscorer is always a good addition, but switching to the above might make it less of a priority for January - which often is a tough market offering poor value. UTV
Please no. Hate five at the back. It minimises your attacking threat and the extra centre-halves just get in each other's way and increase the chance of playing the opposition onside.
Disagree CD, if you have good wingbacks and disciplined, mobile CB.The consensus is that we probably need to upgrade the wide/attacking players.
Though with the emergence of Konsa as an assured player (comfortable in possession) and assuming Chester makes a return, I wonder whether we might play three at the back and push Guilbert and Targett further forward.
If the present wide/attacking players demonstrated they could be more disciplined defensively then they would also be in contention for being Wing-backs.
It also, arguably, gives a better option to accommodate Grealish, SJM, Douglas Luiz and Nakamba in a way that gets one or more of them closer to Wesley.
A proven goalscorer is always a good addition, but switching to the above might make it less of a priority for January - which often is a tough market offering poor value. UTV
Please no. Hate five at the back. It minimises your attacking threat and the extra centre-halves just get in each other's way and increase the chance of playing the opposition onside.
I'd be in favour of trying it, given that we have the CB and the WB to make it work.
Nah. I hate it. Defenders are boring. I don't want an extra one taking up a place that could be used by a dead exciting player.
Disagree CD, if you have good wingbacks and disciplined, mobile CB.The consensus is that we probably need to upgrade the wide/attacking players.
Though with the emergence of Konsa as an assured player (comfortable in possession) and assuming Chester makes a return, I wonder whether we might play three at the back and push Guilbert and Targett further forward.
If the present wide/attacking players demonstrated they could be more disciplined defensively then they would also be in contention for being Wing-backs.
It also, arguably, gives a better option to accommodate Grealish, SJM, Douglas Luiz and Nakamba in a way that gets one or more of them closer to Wesley.
A proven goalscorer is always a good addition, but switching to the above might make it less of a priority for January - which often is a tough market offering poor value. UTV
Please no. Hate five at the back. It minimises your attacking threat and the extra centre-halves just get in each other's way and increase the chance of playing the opposition onside.
I'd be in favour of trying it, given that we have the CB and the WB to make it work.
Agreed. It can shift the whole team further up the pitch and provides the angles and options to move the ball quickly into front players with supporting players closer to them. Particularly if you have defenders bringing the ball out. Do that in a four and (typically) a midfield player drops in so a potential overload is not created.
I'm not sold on it as a system in every circumstance and with every group of players - but I think it is a decent option given our current squad and what they offer. UTV.
Aston Villa have been lining up a January swoop for Galatasaray defender Christian Luyindama, according to reports in Turkey.
But a potential move has gone out of the window after the centre-back suffered a serious injury on international duty which could rule him out for the rest of the season.
According to Turkish publication Sabah (via Sport Witness),Villa were exploring a €14m (£12m) push for Luyindama when the window re-opens having first been linked in the summer.
But the 25-year-old tore a cruciate ligament playing for DR Congo against the Gambia in an Africa Cup of Nations qualifier.
Galatasary confirmed Luyindama requires surgery and they are reportedly furious that any chance of doing a deal has now collapsed.
Luyindama returned to the Super Lig side on a permanent basis from Belgian side Standard Liege after representing his country at the Africa Cup of Nationals finals in Egypt this summer - a place where Villa boss Dean Smith and sporting director Suso were understood to have been in attendance.
He has made 15 appearances in all competitions this season and has recently been linked with Wolverhampton Wanderers and West Ham United.
QuoteAston Villa have been lining up a January swoop for Galatasaray defender Christian Luyindama, according to reports in Turkey.
But a potential move has gone out of the window after the centre-back suffered a serious injury on international duty which could rule him out for the rest of the season.
According to Turkish publication Sabah (via Sport Witness),Villa were exploring a €14m (£12m) push for Luyindama when the window re-opens having first been linked in the summer.
But the 25-year-old tore a cruciate ligament playing for DR Congo against the Gambia in an Africa Cup of Nations qualifier.
Galatasary confirmed Luyindama requires surgery and they are reportedly furious that any chance of doing a deal has now collapsed.
Luyindama returned to the Super Lig side on a permanent basis from Belgian side Standard Liege after representing his country at the Africa Cup of Nationals finals in Egypt this summer - a place where Villa boss Dean Smith and sporting director Suso were understood to have been in attendance.
He has made 15 appearances in all competitions this season and has recently been linked with Wolverhampton Wanderers and West Ham United.
Two players for me, one from each line in order of preference:
Bowen/Benhrama/Gray/Albrighton/Lolley
Giroud/Morelos/Benteke/Ihenacho
I can't make up my mind who I'd prefer out of Bowen or Benhrama so I'd like them both.Yes to all 3 of them. Morelos scored another 2 tonight and has shown he can score freely in Europe as well
Naturally, I'd like Morelos as well but I can't see us prising him away in January.
Much as I'd like another striker, I think it would be extremely difficult to get the right one in January. Therefore, I'd like the above 2 wide players. Not my £40 million so I don't care.
Two players for me, one from each line in order of preference:
Bowen/Benhrama/Gray/Albrighton/Lolley
Giroud/Morelos/Benteke/Ihenacho
Random link to Christoph Monschein (striker) - has been scoring goals in Austria - but hardly the standard of the Preeemiership..hasn't stopped villa !
Its the policy
Get in potential assets so they can be sold on
Unfortunately the links to experienced players like a Gliroud and one with villa connections like Super Marc Albrighton and Benteke are unlikely under this sporting director and CEO.
The championship talent won't be purchased either unless it's considered a good deal on finance.
Otherwise we look elsewhere.
Maupay and Webster prices villa didn't want to outlay 20mil plus on championship players
Similar if players from lower leagues are being quoted at rates where board don't think value then they won't go in for them.
With susos continental and overseas know how it's more likely something like this striker from Austria mention than anything recognised.
Now the initial success of transfer policy will be proven provided villa stay up .
I prefer a bit more fushion and input on Dean Smith type of signings as I can only say Wesley would not have been a total signing by Dean Smith as he lacks all the ingredients of what Smith looks for.
Suso and Purslow imposing of players and financial value assets buying is something Smith is ok with as a coach as he can work like that however he can only be as good as the tools he's given.
Benteke did have an affinity with us though so it wouldn't be a typical signing of a has been. That said, he really is a has been, he's been shit for such a long time i'd be very doubtful of his having any kind of useful impact.
Harry Kane says hiI don't think pacey is necessarily a prerequisite. If we could find someone who plays like Sheringham or Bergkamp I could live with that...
Roberto Firmino best striker in league .
These sort of strikers are invaluable
Benteke did have an affinity with us though so it wouldn't be a typical signing of a has been. That said, he really is a has been, he's been shit for such a long time i'd be very doubtful of his having any kind of useful impact.
It would be like Newcastle signing Carroll.
Maddison is good mates with Jack apparently. That would be nice.
It would be like Newcastle signing Carroll.No not even remotely close.
The way both Dean Smith and I and some others here have seen it is villa front 3 to be of Liverpool style.
And shades of man city.
Grealish mentioned that he was to be like one of the Liverpool forwards playing and Smith has mentioned about this style of attacking trio.
Wide forwards and a firmino or aguero type striker. At the moment it's budget version centrally however Smith can either develop or upgrade that part as sees fit.
We'd have to break our transfer record to get Bailly.I would hope that we'll be breaking our transfer record multiple times over the next few seasons.
We'd have to break our transfer record to get Bailly.I would hope that we'll be breaking our transfer record multiple times over the next few seasons.
We'd have to break our transfer record to get Bailly.I would hope that we'll be breaking our transfer record multiple times over the next few seasons.
Yep. That we spent £20m or so on Wesley is nothing in today’s market. Those are squad players at the top end of the table. We will need to be operating at the £30m+ range for starting players, so enjoy watching the likes of AEG, Trez, Targett let alone Lansbury, Conor, Elmo, Kodjia etc while they are with us. It’s going to cruel but necessary as we push those players out in the next season or two
Benteke's scored 4 goals in two and a half seasons. If it weren't for the fact that he did really well for us 5 years ago the suggestion would be hilarious. In fact it is hilarious: whatever he had when he was here, he hasn't got it anymore.......is the only logical conclusion.
Benteke is only 28, but still think that's too old for a Dean Smith signing. He may be in our price range however, if he did become available.
See the increase in Ming's value as the reason to not loan players!
Guys, whatever the question facing us in January is:
The 28 year old, 2019 version of Benteke is not the answer. We can do better.
The way the club handled transfers this summer was consistent and in line with what they said they’d do, bring in players who can be developed and whose value can go up. They also stated that loaning players wasn’t there intention in the future. So bringing back benteke on loan or permanently isn’t in line with their philosophy.Benteke is only 28, but still think that's too old for a Dean Smith signing. He may be in our price range however, if he did become available.
Or may be a loan deal in January. Not ideal but it's less of a gamble than a permanent deal on big wages. I still think Davis could be good in the short term but he does seem to get a few injuries.
The way the club handled transfers this summer was consistent and in line with what they said they’d do, bring in players who can be developed and whose value can go up. They also stated that loaning players wasn’t there intention in the future. So bringing back benteke on loan or permanently isn’t in line with their philosophy.Quite. And on top of everything else, none of the management team (I think) were here when Benteke was so they have no connection to him whatsoever.
The way the club handled transfers this summer was consistent and in line with what they said they’d do, bring in players who can be developed and whose value can go up. They also stated that loaning players wasn’t there intention in the future. So bringing back benteke on loan or permanently isn’t in line with their philosophy.Quite. And on top of everything else, none of the management team (I think) were here when Benteke was so they have no connection to him whatsoever.
It's the reliance on loans that is the problem.See the increase in Ming's value as the reason to not loan players!
Loans got us promoted.
! Maybe they did. But Mings cost us three times what he was worth prior to promotion.See the increase in Ming's value as the reason to not loan players!
Loans got us promoted.
! Maybe they did. But Mings cost us three times what he was worth prior to promotion.See the increase in Ming's value as the reason to not loan players!
Loans got us promoted.
I’d have paid double what we ended up paying at the start of last season if I’d knew that Mings would have helped take us from closer the foot of the table in February to winning at Wembley come May. He’s been worth every single penny and some.! Maybe they did. But Mings cost us three times what he was worth prior to promotion.See the increase in Ming's value as the reason to not loan players!
Loans got us promoted.
There's no maybe about it, and the extra we paid for Mings is a fraction of what he was worth to us last season.
I think we’d be mad not to use the loan system more. Like Mings, it is an opportunity to get players who would otherwise not join us. Once here they grow an affiliation and join permanently if we want them.Purslow’s said after our play off win that Villa did not won’t to continue to rely on the loan system. The club apparently feels you are ultimately improving players who aren’t yours. I’m guessing we will bring in zero loans in the foreseeable future.
Loan to buy is ok though as long as we insert a clause.
Loan to buy is ok though as long as we insert a clause.
Yes, you just need to cast your eye over to Wolves, who have used the 'loan to buy' very effectively over the last couple of years: Boly, Jota, Jiménez , Dendoncker and Jonny. They have all improved their side immensely.Loan to buy is ok though as long as we insert a clause.
Agree - the try before you buy approach can be shrewd business. Allows us to take a couple of 'punts' with not much downside risk, but plenty of upside potential. While Mings is worth every penny we paid, an agreed figure at the start of the loan would have been a flipping bargain.
I would much rather buy than loan, but I'd much rather loan than go down through lack of good enough players in a given position.
I think for the first time in a long time I have enough trust in the way that our transfers are being done. I’m happy for them to just get on with it, whether it’s either loans or purchases. The squad isn’t perfect, but generally the players they’ve brought in have impressed me. It’s all such a contrast to previous years, like being terrified of buying Grant Holt and nobody else.[/b]
Loans are shit.
Mings
Tuanzebe
Abraham
El Ghazi
What a collective waste of time that was eh?
Loans are shit.
Mings
Tuanzebe
Abraham
El Ghazi
What a collective waste of time that was eh?
It needs context though, they were all signed when we had a paper thin squad, were looking set to be midtable in the championship and had no money to spend.
Now we've got good depth in almost all of the squad, plenty of money in the bank, and we're doing ok in the biggest league on the planet.
I'm not against a loan, I just don't know who we could go for that would be as close as possible to a guarantee of delivering what we need for 4-5 months. If I could see a top class striker struggling to make match day squads for a decent premier league team then great but other than there being a small chance that Chelsea would let Batshuayi or Giroud leave I can't see anyone else. That leaves a loan from abroad but that's more of a risk. If I'm missing an obvious choice then great but I really don't like the idea of someone like Brewster.
I see what you're saying but for me in our position right now it's as simple as this: Would player (eg Brewster) be an asset to our squad and help us stay up? If the answer is yes then it's worth doing, no strings attached. It's just one (or two) loans, it won't leave us with a problem it will just help us through a period where we're thin on the ground and allow us to look again in the summer with another years PL riches secured.
Loans are shit.Yes they are because we trained two of them and now they are benefitting our rivals and the other two cost a fair few bobs after being given game time by us. I don't like loans.
Mings
Tuanzebe
Abraham
El Ghazi
What a collective waste of time that was eh?
What is really the difference between a loan and a contracted player? Most players only stay at a clubs for a few years anyway, and for us, if do have decent player, sooner or later he will leave if one of CL clubs come in for him. At least with a loan, we can send them back after a shorter time if they are shit.
What is really the difference between a loan and a contracted player? Most players only stay at a clubs for a few years anyway, and for us, if do have decent player, sooner or later he will leave if one of CL clubs come in for him. At least with a loan, we can send them back after a shorter time if they are shit.How many successful ( teams that win stuff) teams rely on loan players?
What is really the difference between a loan and a contracted player? Most players only stay at a clubs for a few years anyway, and for us, if do have decent player, sooner or later he will leave if one of CL clubs come in for him. At least with a loan, we can send them back after a shorter time if they are shit.How many successful ( teams that win stuff) teams rely on loan players?
Loans are shit.Yes they are because we trained two of them and now they are benefitting our rivals and the other two cost a fair few bobs after being given game time by us. I don't like loans.
Mings
Tuanzebe
Abraham
El Ghazi
What a collective waste of time that was eh?
Point taken, I would suggest that what a Good manager wants is a settled squad with the nucleus of the team with 2 + years left on their contracts. This looks like the model that DS is aiming for.What is really the difference between a loan and a contracted player? Most players only stay at a clubs for a few years anyway, and for us, if do have decent player, sooner or later he will leave if one of CL clubs come in for him. At least with a loan, we can send them back after a shorter time if they are shit.How many successful ( teams that win stuff) teams rely on loan players?
Bayern Munich - Coutinho, Perisic
PSG - Rico, Icardi
Man City - Scott Carson (not a first teamer obviously)
All have loan players in their squad. Chelsea, with all their wealth, last season had Kovacic on loan which they've now turned into a permanent. While not saying it's ideal, it would be silly to rule the possibility out completely. If a loan fits a given situation, then why not?
As an example, if Chelsea had their transfer ban overturned, bought in two big name strikers and said they'd loan Abraham out to us for the rest of the season, should we turn that down on principle? (unlikely I know, but just an example).
The Baggies didn't loan these players and didn't get promoted. But at least they didn't have to pay over the odds for Mings so they're having the last laugh now, right?Loans are shit.Yes they are because we trained two of them and now they are benefitting our rivals and the other two cost a fair few bobs after being given game time by us. I don't like loans.
Mings
Tuanzebe
Abraham
El Ghazi
What a collective waste of time that was eh?
The Baggies didn't loan these players and didn't get promoted. But at least they didn't have to pay over the odds for Mings so they're having the last laugh now, right?Loans are shit.Yes they are because we trained two of them and now they are benefitting our rivals and the other two cost a fair few bobs after being given game time by us. I don't like loans.
Mings
Tuanzebe
Abraham
El Ghazi
What a collective waste of time that was eh?
Loans are shit.Yes they are because we trained two of them and now they are benefitting our rivals and the other two cost a fair few bobs after being given game time by us. I don't like loans.
Mings
Tuanzebe
Abraham
El Ghazi
What a collective waste of time that was eh?
Loans are shit.Yes they are because we trained two of them and now they are benefitting our rivals and the other two cost a fair few bobs after being given game time by us. I don't like loans.
Mings
Tuanzebe
Abraham
El Ghazi
What a collective waste of time that was eh?
But they all played a massive part in getting us promoted, so they were very effective.
We improved players from our 'rivals' (except they weren't rivals then, and still wouldn't be without the plasyers in question). They in turn improved our whole club. Who's the loser?
I can't believe there's 2 ot 3 pages of debate on this.
We're very light up front and will probably be in a relegation battle. If Wesley get's injured, we're fucked.
Assuming there's no obvious target to purchase or we can't get the deal done, then as an alternative do you want to:
A. Loan a player to boost your squad and hopefully improve your chances of staying up (even if there's no buy clause)
B. Not loan a player and continue with a depleted squad - I don't like loans and enjoyed the Championship anyway.
Aside from that I honestly don't believe that signing someone like, to stick with an existing example, Brewster is going to be the difference between staying up or not. I guess the problem is that I'm not convinced that the need for another striker is as desperate as some of you think.It's definitely going to be a big problem if Wesley's goals dry up.
Aside from that I honestly don't believe that signing someone like, to stick with an existing example, Brewster is going to be the difference between staying up or not. I guess the problem is that I'm not convinced that the need for another striker is as desperate as some of you think.It's definitely going to be a big problem if Wesley's goals dry up.
If a top player became available but only on loan fuck it let’s get him in. Because this high moral ground bollocks could get us relegated. This season of all seasons we simply must do everything possible to keep our place in this division.
If a top player became available but only on loan fuck it let’s get him in. Because this high moral ground bollocks could get us relegated. This season of all seasons we simply must do everything possible to keep our place in this division.
Maupay always looks dangerous, and played pretty well for Brighton against us. Sign him in January.
Maupay always looks dangerous, and played pretty well for Brighton against us. Sign him in January.
think it’s to late now
we will have to find other options
I know it ranks in the "I've got more chance of sleeping with [insert name of smoking hot actress]", but I would like us to at least try and talk to Real about Bale. He's come out and said he's not ecstatic about being there and would like to return to the Premier League. Spurs and Man Utd are mooted to be interested also so it's a (very) long shot but we have the money and supposedly the ambition. Can you imagine Grealish and Bale together ?
Nurse !
Why didn’t Miss World go to the dance?I know it ranks in the "I've got more chance of sleeping with [insert name of smoking hot actress]", but I would like us to at least try and talk to Real about Bale. He's come out and said he's not ecstatic about being there and would like to return to the Premier League. Spurs and Man Utd are mooted to be interested also so it's a (very) long shot but we have the money and supposedly the ambition. Can you imagine Grealish and Bale together ?
Nurse !
(Holly Willoughby)
same chance
Seriously? Our owners are worth a few quid but they aren't going to be spending £500k a week on one players wages! Even if they could FFP would put a spanner in the works.I know it ranks in the "I've got more chance of sleeping with [insert name of smoking hot actress]", but I would like us to at least try and talk to Real about Bale. He's come out and said he's not ecstatic about being there and would like to return to the Premier League. Spurs and Man Utd are mooted to be interested also so it's a (very) long shot but we have the money and supposedly the ambition. Can you imagine Grealish and Bale together ?
Nurse !
(Holly Willoughby)
same chance
I like to think that with our current managerial structure it hasn't gone unnoticed that we are coming up short in the centre-forward position and know full well that it cannot go on without rectification. My hope is: that a particular target(s) has been identified and come the opening of the window we shall see someone none of us thought possible or, have never heard of.
I know it ranks in the "I've got more chance of sleeping with [insert name of smoking hot actress]", but I would like us to at least try and talk to Real about Bale. He's come out and said he's not ecstatic about being there and would like to return to the Premier League. Spurs and Man Utd are mooted to be interested also so it's a (very) long shot but we have the money and supposedly the ambition. Can you imagine Grealish and Bale together ?
Nurse !
(Holly Willoughby)
same chance
I know it ranks in the "I've got more chance of sleeping with [insert name of smoking hot actress]", but I would like us to at least try and talk to Real about Bale. He's come out and said he's not ecstatic about being there and would like to return to the Premier League. Spurs and Man Utd are mooted to be interested also so it's a (very) long shot but we have the money and supposedly the ambition. Can you imagine Grealish and Bale together ?
Nurse !
(Holly Willoughby)
same chance
Do you remember when Agnetha from ABBA had a relationship with a random bloke who was stalking her?
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Adebayor is available.
Adebayor is available.
Didn't he come out and say his Pastor advised him against signing for us when Sherwod wanted him?
There's hope for me and Suzanne Virdee yet.
I did know that, it came out in a documentary one time
one of the most unbelievable things ever
the bloke was a complete weirdo as well
a very lucky weirdo it has to be said
Pedro at Chelsea being linked according to the Telegraph, according to the Villa Report Twitter feed.
Pedro at Chelsea being linked according to the Telegraph, according to the Villa Report Twitter feed.
Very useful player, that would be a good purchase if true.
Pedro at Chelsea being linked according to the Telegraph, according to the Villa Report Twitter feed.
Very useful player, that would be a good purchase if true.
Don't you want to give James Chester a chance at the back?
It's a shame we're not after Bowen because he looks the part. I trust Smith's judgement though and it would appear Benrahma is his number 1.
In the summer there was a maybe a chance to sign some premier league experienced players.
Danny Ings
Depending on were we are after the next run of fixtures then we may need a quick re-think, but Im not sure how comfortable I am with us throwing away our philosophy at the first sign of trouble. Im also not sure how comfortable I am with us potentially being in the shit and sticking with a philosophy that could back fire massively. Itts a tricky one.It may not be the craziest idea if we do want a bit of class in such as Pedro, im just not sure it ties in with how we want to do things.
100 right in that respect doesn't tie in at all.
But maybe a re think ?
I just cant see it, our thought I read somewhere in the summer that out whole philosophy is now to buy young with sell on value.
Oh yes, we are bound to give him a 3 year contract, nonsense.I just cant see it, our thought I read somewhere in the summer that out whole philosophy is now to buy young with sell on value.
If the Villa did get Pedro in window it snacks as a little desperate and hardly a strategic move.
Sounds like it could be nonsense however Suso with Spanish link and JT Chelsea may think a move for a pacey wide attacker fits the way.
I liked Pedro as a exciting attacking player and be quite a coup in some ways . Just the 32 years old thing . 33 in summer.
Would want a 2 or 3 year contract. And a relegation release clause in sure.
Would have preferred to have signed him in the summer but being a class act I guess he be an upgrade.
Would Marc Albrighton come back? Pacey, hard worker and good crosser of the ball.Who would Marc cross the ball too exactly?
Demarai Gray at the same club hasn't kicked on as expected either but surely has the ability to come good again.
If we had Aguero / Vardy / MessiThe same was said about Hogan.
It would not matter as we are expecting our striker to spend most of the game facing the wrong way looking at his own players that are not even within 25ft of them.
I appreciate that even my patience is wearing thin with Wes but fuck me he gets no support at all and is feeding off lumps of balls up to him
We need to change our play before we look for another striker
Would Marc Albrighton come back? Pacey, hard worker and good crosser of the ball.Who would Marc cross the ball too exactly?
Demarai Gray at the same club hasn't kicked on as expected either but surely has the ability to come good again.
Someone told me last night he'd heard Benrahma is nailed on. I'm not convinced he's the answer mind.
A striker, maybe two if we can offload Kodjia for some cash is absolutely beyond essential.
Someone told me last night he'd heard Benrahma is nailed on. I'm not convinced he's the answer mind.
A striker, maybe two if we can offload Kodjia for some cash is absolutely beyond essential.
Kodjia is out of contract in the summer, as is Chester. Any fee we get for either of them in Jan will be nominal only.
Would Marc Albrighton come back? Pacey, hard worker and good crosser of the ball.Who would Marc cross the ball too exactly?
Demarai Gray at the same club hasn't kicked on as expected either but surely has the ability to come good again.
Well, I'm assuming that our first and most important signing is a new forward. But we do need competition out wide aswell. An option that can be trusted to put a shift in.
If we had Aguero / Vardy / Messi
It would not matter as we are expecting our striker to spend most of the game facing the wrong way looking at his own players that are not even within 25ft of them.
I appreciate that even my patience is wearing thin with Wes but fuck me he gets no support at all and is feeding off lumps of balls up to him
We need to change our play before we look for another striker
I am a big fanWould Marc Albrighton come back? Pacey, hard worker and good crosser of the ball.Who would Marc cross the ball too exactly?
Demarai Gray at the same club hasn't kicked on as expected either but surely has the ability to come good again.
Well, I'm assuming that our first and most important signing is a new forward. But we do need competition out wide aswell. An option that can be trusted to put a shift in.
If we had Aguero / Vardy / Messi
It would not matter as we are expecting our striker to spend most of the game facing the wrong way looking at his own players that are not even within 25ft of them.
I appreciate that even my patience is wearing thin with Wes but fuck me he gets no support at all and is feeding off lumps of balls up to him
We need to change our play before we look for another striker
This is really just a side-note but I used to play as a winger for a university side. I had crazy acceleration and was a decent crosser but I had 0 stamina so I would bust a gut for 60 minutes of every game, tearing down the right flank and whipping in crosses again and again, and we had a big old lump of a striker who could never do anything, he'd fail to connect or fall over in the box or fail to attack the ball in the air etc. etc. and I was always ending up crippled for the rest of the week because I'd push myself too hard to finish the game or keep going, trying to play provider.
Eventually the coach had enough, dropped him and put me in as striker. You'll do better than him and won't have to break yourself in the process, he says.
All of which is to say, there's feck all point in Jack or John or Ghazi or whoever playing beautiful through balls or whipping in crosses to someone who isn't there, because the funny thing about it is, they look quite silly doing so. The difference between a world-class assist and a wasted pass to the opposition keeper is having a player you can trust in front of you. I don't care what Smith says, these lads know Wesley is largely useless. Which explains why they're suddenly playing with bugger all confidence.
Batshayi being linked form chelsea. Id be delighted with this.A player who is not suited to a lone striker role.
Jesus yes
Only chance of getting Batshuayi is if Chelsea go out and sign a big-money striker elsewhere.I think it’s the other way round.
Only chance of getting Batshuayi is if Chelsea go out and sign a big-money striker elsewhere.I think it’s the other way round.
Only chance of getting Batshuayi is if Chelsea go out and sign a big-money striker elsewhere.
Is it worth tapping Origi up?
Is it worth tapping Origi up?
I have this vision of Pukki signing for is in Jan
I have this vision of Pukki signing for is in Jan
I've just looked at Batshuayi's record and he's hardly played - is he always injured? Not exactly prolific but has scored against big teams and knows the league - it's a yes from me. £22M if Palace want him apparently - too rich for their blood as they would surely have to find a home for Benteke if they did want him.
We can do better.
We can do better.
Name him/them
We can do better.This Jan? I'd like to know who.
I have this vision of Pukki signing for is in JanDrugs ?
Cavani of PSG? The 32 year old who Athletico Madrid are hoping to sign if they can beat Juventus, Man Utd & LA Galaxy to his signature? OK, right, good call.We can do better.
Name him/them
Cavani, Batshuyahi, Barbosa, off the top of my head.
But the club employ a scouting network, I don't. They should be able to find a more exciting prospect somewhere on the planet considering the wealth at our disposal.
more drugs.Cavani of PSG? The 32 year old who Athletico Madrid are hoping to sign if they can beat Juventus, Man Utd & LA Galaxy to his signature? OK, right, good call.We can do better.
Name him/them
Cavani, Batshuyahi, Barbosa, off the top of my head.
But the club employ a scouting network, I don't. They should be able to find a more exciting prospect somewhere on the planet considering the wealth at our disposal.
There's no such team as Athletico Madrid and even if there was, they can't afford him, we can. LA Galaxy play in a pub league. Man United will probably have a new manager by January so who knows what players they will be after? Anyway Rashford seems to be doing well. They probably have other priorities. As for Juventus, they're already paying Ronaldo about a billion a week and Serie A clubs don't make as much as we do. Plus they seem to be doing okay without him.
But, nah. We have among the wealthiest owners in football. Let's just settle for some average Fulham player or a Rangers maniac who can't stay on the pitch and never scores in big games.
There's no such team as Athletico Madrid and even if there was, they can't afford him, we can. LA Galaxy play in a pub league. Man United will probably have a new manager by January so who knows what players they will be after? Anyway Rashford seems to be doing well. They probably have other priorities. As for Juventus, they're already paying Ronaldo about a billion a week and Serie A clubs don't make as much as we do. Plus they seem to be doing okay without him.
But, nah. We have among the wealthiest owners in football. Let's just settle for some average Fulham player or a Rangers maniac who can't stay on the pitch and never scores in big games.
We can do better.
Name him/them
Cavani, Batshuyahi, Barbosa, off the top of my head.
But the club employ a scouting network, I don't. They should be able to find a more exciting prospect somewhere on the planet considering the wealth at our disposal.
Nonsence. There's ambition and then there fantasy. Where we are right now the likes of Cavani fall firmly in the latter.There's no such team as Athletico Madrid and even if there was, they can't afford him, we can. LA Galaxy play in a pub league. Man United will probably have a new manager by January so who knows what players they will be after? Anyway Rashford seems to be doing well. They probably have other priorities. As for Juventus, they're already paying Ronaldo about a billion a week and Serie A clubs don't make as much as we do. Plus they seem to be doing okay without him.
But, nah. We have among the wealthiest owners in football. Let's just settle for some average Fulham player or a Rangers maniac who can't stay on the pitch and never scores in big games.
I applaud this post in full. Too many folk conditioned to the corner shop mentality of Ellis.
We can do better.
Name him/them
Cavani, Batshuyahi, Barbosa, off the top of my head.
But the club employ a scouting network, I don't. They should be able to find a more exciting prospect somewhere on the planet considering the wealth at our disposal.
I should never have asked I suppose
Nonsence. There's ambition and then there fantasy. Where we are right now the likes of Cavani fall firmly in the latter.There's no such team as Athletico Madrid and even if there was, they can't afford him, we can. LA Galaxy play in a pub league. Man United will probably have a new manager by January so who knows what players they will be after? Anyway Rashford seems to be doing well. They probably have other priorities. As for Juventus, they're already paying Ronaldo about a billion a week and Serie A clubs don't make as much as we do. Plus they seem to be doing okay without him.
But, nah. We have among the wealthiest owners in football. Let's just settle for some average Fulham player or a Rangers maniac who can't stay on the pitch and never scores in big games.
I applaud this post in full. Too many folk conditioned to the corner shop mentality of Ellis.
You don't think Maupay would have been a better option than Wesley?
Maupay is a much, much better player than Wesley.Chalk and cheese.
Shit and ShinolaMaupay is a much, much better player than Wesley.Chalk and cheese.
For fuck sake how has the conversation gone down from Grabban and Mitrovic, to be clear Assombalonga is a terrible player who should never be mentioned in connection to a club owned by 2 billionaires. Oh and Dack would be shit in the premier league as well.
Maupay is a much, much better player than Wesley.I'm with Risso. Although I probably would have added in an extra 'much'
For fuck sake how has the conversation gone down from Grabban and Mitrovic, to be clear Assombalonga is a terrible player who should never be mentioned in connection to a club owned by 2 billionaires. Oh and Dack would be shit in the premier league as well.
Can you live with Bowen and Benrahma then ?
I can
Or are they too low a standard for you.
I'm only touting potential and Assombalonga may not be totally the answer however something along the lines and practical is where we look at. Or one such way.
I'm sorry that it annoys the sheer mention of championship players now we are premier league but Dean Smith (whatever say he has) would be for such signings .
Suso is the overseas recruiter and wouldn't know the merits of these players as much as Dean Smith..
Assombalonga could have come last January if Tammy Abraham left .
I think strong links to him being signed actually. So shows he's interested Villa and could do worse than Brit. I think he as good as what we have and better goal scorer
So the equation isAre you Dr Xia in disguise?!
Mitrovic+Bowen+Batshuyahi+Grabban X (Wesley )= Assombalonga
I think we're less likely to get a spanking with Mings out to be honest, he's been a right liability lately.
We're going to get a lot of this, aren't we.Yes, we are in the midst of greatness.
I think we're less likely to get a spanking with Mings out to be honest, he's been a right liability lately.
I think we’ll realise how important he is once he’s not in the team.
I think we're less likely to get a spanking with Mings out to be honest, he's been a right liability lately.
I think we’ll realise how important he is once he’s not in the team.
I think he’s very important, but he has been ropey lately. Hopefully a rest will get him back to his best.
If we could re-sign Grabban on loan and Bowen on a perm in January I'd snap your hand off right now. We'd look a completely different team.
I'd even take Mitrović. Although, as the current Championship top scorer that option seems unlikely.
Grabban? Fucking hell.
Grabban? Fucking hell.
He's not the forward you'd build a side around but he wasn't overawed in his spell with us and it seemed to click for him.
More stability that summer and there's a decent chance we'd have made the move permanent.
I'd probably prefer him as an option from the bench over Kodjia or Davis. But realistically we need better than all three.
Grabban? Fucking hell.
He's not the forward you'd build a side around but he wasn't overawed in his spell with us and it seemed to click for him.
More stability that summer and there's a decent chance we'd have made the move permanent.
I'd probably prefer him as an option from the bench over Kodjia or Davis. But realistically we need better than all three.
Not advocating we sign Grabban, especially as he is on the bench at Forest at the moment, but did see a stat on the TV during their game at Millwall saying he had scored the most goals in the Championship over the past five years.
Heres 4 names who are doing ok at the moment - of them Moron and David look decent.
Loren Moron
Donyell Malen
Myron Boadu
Jonathan David
Heres 4 names who are doing ok at the moment - of them Moron and David look decent.
Loren Moron
Donyell Malen
Myron Boadu
Jonathan David
I mentioned Malen on a thread, not sure which, I think he could be a special talent but he's very young so he might not be the sort you sign looking for an immediate impact. Osimhen at Lyon looks a fantastic player as well, again very young but both are the sort of players we could pay £20-25m for and see bids of 2-3x that in 18months time.
Yeh I stopped at Loren MoronHeres 4 names who are doing ok at the moment - of them Moron and David look decent.
Loren Moron
Donyell Malen
Myron Boadu
Jonathan David
I mentioned Malen on a thread, not sure which, I think he could be a special talent but he's very young so he might not be the sort you sign looking for an immediate impact. Osimhen at Lyon looks a fantastic player as well, again very young but both are the sort of players we could pay £20-25m for and see bids of 2-3x that in 18months time.
Are those real players then? I thought it was a joke that I wasn't clever enough to understand!
If we could re-sign Grabban on loan and Bowen on a perm in January I'd snap your hand off right now. We'd look a completely different team.
I'd even take Mitrović. Although, as the current Championship top scorer that option seems unlikely.
Grabban and Mitrovic have proven on a few occasions they arent up to the top division, file under likes of Gayle, Dwight.
Grabban? Fucking hell.
He's not the forward you'd build a side around but he wasn't overawed in his spell with us and it seemed to click for him.
More stability that summer and there's a decent chance we'd have made the move permanent.
I'd probably prefer him as an option from the bench over Kodjia or Davis. But realistically we need better than all three.
Not advocating we sign Grabban, especially as he is on the bench at Forest at the moment, but did see a stat on the TV during their game at Millwall saying he had scored the most goals in the Championship over the past five years.
Re Grabban stat scoring most in last 5 years but surely that doesn't mean much as a premier league bench mark.
If it wasnt for it being a fact it would be totally relativism
Its bordering anyway because :If Vardy, Kane , Aguero , or even Tammy Abraham played in the championship the last 5 years they would be the top scorer.
Its like saying I'm the youngest child because my brother and sisters are older than me.
But if my brother or sisters were younger then they would be the youngest.
Grabban scored the most goals in the championship in the last 5 years.
Aston Villa are in the Premier league.
Its 2 different things
Help me out with this?
Grabban is 32 next month and is not the answer to any question apart from "name a striker that is great in the lower leagues and shit in the Premier League".Or maybe "name a striker who may not be great but would be cheap and almost certainly better than Wesley at the moment?" I appreciate there would be fucking hundreds of viable answers to this question and I'm not advocating signing them. But if you asked me who I'd rather play up top for us on Saturday Wesley or Grabban, there's only one answer to that.
Heres 4 names who are doing ok at the moment - of them Moron and David look decent.
Loren Moron
Donyell Malen
Myron Boadu
Jonathan David
I mentioned Malen on a thread, not sure which, I think he could be a special talent but he's very young so he might not be the sort you sign looking for an immediate impact. Osimhen at Lyon looks a fantastic player as well, again very young but both are the sort of players we could pay £20-25m for and see bids of 2-3x that in 18months time.
Are those real players then? I thought it was a joke that I wasn't clever enough to understand!
Grabban? Fucking hell.
He's not the forward you'd build a side around but he wasn't overawed in his spell with us and it seemed to click for him.
More stability that summer and there's a decent chance we'd have made the move permanent.
I'd probably prefer him as an option from the bench over Kodjia or Davis. But realistically we need better than all three.
Not advocating we sign Grabban, especially as he is on the bench at Forest at the moment, but did see a stat on the TV during their game at Millwall saying he had scored the most goals in the Championship over the past five years.
Re Grabban stat scoring most in last 5 years but surely that doesn't mean much as a premier league bench mark.
If it wasnt for it being a fact it would be totally relativism
Its bordering anyway because :If Vardy, Kane , Aguero , or even Tammy Abraham played in the championship the last 5 years they would be the top scorer.
Its like saying I'm the youngest child because my brother and sisters are older than me.
But if my brother or sisters were younger then they would be the youngest.
Grabban scored the most goals in the championship in the last 5 years.
Aston Villa are in the Premier league.
Its 2 different things
Help me out with this?
I'm not always on board with your posts, but I like the subliminal attempt to influence the election in the last one.
Heres 4 names who are doing ok at the moment - of them Moron and David look decent.
Loren Moron
Donyell Malen
Myron Boadu
Jonathan David
I mentioned Malen on a thread, not sure which, I think he could be a special talent but he's very young so he might not be the sort you sign looking for an immediate impact. Osimhen at Lyon looks a fantastic player as well, again very young but both are the sort of players we could pay £20-25m for and see bids of 2-3x that in 18months time.
Are those real players then? I thought it was a joke that I wasn't clever enough to understand!
Same.
Grabban? Fucking hell.
He's not the forward you'd build a side around but he wasn't overawed in his spell with us and it seemed to click for him.
More stability that summer and there's a decent chance we'd have made the move permanent.
I'd probably prefer him as an option from the bench over Kodjia or Davis. But realistically we need better than all three.
Not advocating we sign Grabban, especially as he is on the bench at Forest at the moment, but did see a stat on the TV during their game at Millwall saying he had scored the most goals in the Championship over the past five years.
I don't really follow football abroad so don't really know what kind of options would be available in other countries, but in terms of British football, I think we would either be looking at taking a bit of a punt on someone like Ollie Watkins from Brentford or Morelos from Rangers or looking to sign someone on loan from another top flight club.
What we tend to forget is that we can afford to pay wages 3/4/5/6 x what players would earn in other European leagues.
We need 5 players in the January window although it will be a panic situation.
Bringing in another 5 players would completely stuff us, I think. Too many to absorb in too short a time.What we tend to forget is that we can afford to pay wages 3/4/5/6 x what players would earn in other European leagues.
We need 5 players in the January window although it will be a panic situation.
I initially thought a striker and maybe a winger wax all that was needed, but as each game passes I see more and more need for a central midfielder. Nakamba gets a bit lost at times, Luiz is struggling to get up to speed, Hourihane is a defensive liability at times and Lansbury just isn't up to in the top flight unfortunately.
Bringing in another 5 players would completely stuff us, I think. Too many to absorb in too short a time.What we tend to forget is that we can afford to pay wages 3/4/5/6 x what players would earn in other European leagues.
We need 5 players in the January window although it will be a panic situation.
I initially thought a striker and maybe a winger wax all that was needed, but as each game passes I see more and more need for a central midfielder. Nakamba gets a bit lost at times, Luiz is struggling to get up to speed, Hourihane is a defensive liability at times and Lansbury just isn't up to in the top flight unfortunately.
Agree about central midfield. We’ve bought a lot of similar players and still lack the kind of proper midfield destroyer we desperately need to unleash SJM and JG. That’s almost as bad an oversight from the summer as the fact we bet the farm on one striker.
I don’t know about luiz. I don’t think we’ve seen the best of him but I also don’t think he’s that kind of player. He’s got nice touch, tidy feet and good at ball recycling but he’s also slow and not very physical and his passing is hit and miss.He's Carlos Sanchez!
We were crying out for a dcm especially after whelan left. We bring 2 internationals in for that position and we still aren't happy. How many dcm's do we want and is that position becoming the equivalent of right back under bruce where we just fill the team with dcm's?
If it's a question of bringing in another dcm to unleash McGinn, perhaps super John needs to return to his early season form (before talk of manure) to see the best of him again and players around him.
A striker is definitely needed, perhaps a speedy winger who can cross a ball and someone who can replace either McGinn or Grealish especially when the former is off form or Jack is out injured.
Yep we definitely need a leg breaker type in midfield so McGinn and Jack can play together in the middle. And we need TWO strikers. Maybe a buy and a loan. And someone to replace Targett. And Dean to change. If all this happens we will be pushing for Europe....
Or, the two we brought in have not yet fully acclimatised to the new league (not that I see Luiz as a destroyer; more of a play break-up player; a pass-and-move sort of guy).Yep we definitely need a leg breaker type in midfield so McGinn and Jack can play together in the middle. And we need TWO strikers. Maybe a buy and a loan. And someone to replace Targett. And Dean to change. If all this happens we will be pushing for Europe....
We signed two defensive midfielders in Nakamba and Luiz, paid over £25m for the pair of them, and now it turns out that neither of them are really up to the task. Pitarch should be getting just as much of a squeaky bum as Smith to be honest.
How's Veretout doing, can we take him back?
Yep we definitely need a leg breaker type in midfield so McGinn and Jack can play together in the middle. And we need TWO strikers. Maybe a buy and a loan. And someone to replace Targett. And Dean to change. If all this happens we will be pushing for Europe....
We signed two defensive midfielders in Nakamba and Luiz, paid over £25m for the pair of them, and now it turns out that neither of them are really up to the task. Pitarch should be getting just as much of a squeaky bum as Smith to be honest.
I don’t know about luiz. I don’t think we’ve seen the best of him but I also don’t think he’s that kind of player. He’s got nice touch, tidy feet and good at ball recycling but he’s also slow and not very physical and his passing is hit and miss.
In contrast Wolves midfield for all their technical ability really do work their bollocks off without the ball. And this I think is their 30th game of the season. They don’t have the biggest squad but it is so well drilled by the manager and staff.
In contrast Wolves midfield for all their technical ability really do work their bollocks off without the ball. And this I think is their 30th game of the season. They don’t have the biggest squad but it is so well drilled by the manager and staff.
Agree TV, but Neves and Moutinho are quality players. As for formations, Wolves are like Sheffield United in that they have found a system that works for them and have developed it over a coupke of seasons. We haven't had a system that has looked convincing for years.
Douglas Luiz is talented, but he’s clearly a playmaker type as opposed to a ball winner.
Morelos sent off again 😂
Douglas Luiz is talented, but he’s clearly a playmaker type as opposed to a ball winner.His attitude is like he is expecting the call from Pep..
Douglas Luiz is talented, but he’s clearly a playmaker type as opposed to a ball winner.His attitude is like he is expecting the call from Pep..
How's Veretout doing, can we take him back?
Morelos sent off again 😂
You still would though?
Douglas Luiz is talented, but he’s clearly a playmaker type as opposed to a ball winner.
Our players appear lazy without the ball, there is little movement to make space, if they have the ball they pass it off and then play statues. The one exception to this is Grealish and that's why he stands out in this side.
Wasn't he Larry Grayson's mate?
I see Newcastle are heavily linked with Jared Bowen I hope we are in for him.
Right now we're not in a great position to be casting aspersions at Bruce.I see Newcastle are heavily linked with Jared Bowen I hope we are in for him.
Steve Bruce just having a quick look at who's top of the championship scoring charts and deciding to bid 12m for them, surely not...
Where we are or what we're doing has zero bearing on our views of Bruce.Well, when casing insults at his abilities the fact that he's doing somewhat better than the progressive manager we all wanted does have relevance. Lots of us thought and hoped Newcastle would drop like a stone, they were in complete disarray and had just appointed a dinosaur. But like it or not right now he is getting some decent results (despite a massively under firing expensive striker) and proving a bit more canny than people expected.
Interesting / depressing story in the Athletic that Delle Alli was at Bodymoor Heath with his family on the last day of the January 2015 transfer window, all ready to sign for Villa. They were unimpressed that Paul Lambert wasn’t there in person so when Spurs came in at the last minute, he changed his mind.
What a shambles we were then.
No it doesn't.Well it clearly does, but whatever.
Yep we definitely need a leg breaker type in midfield so McGinn and Jack can play together in the middle. And we need TWO strikers. Maybe a buy and a loan. And someone to replace Targett. And Dean to change. If all this happens we will be pushing for Europe....
Yep we definitely need a leg breaker type in midfield so McGinn and Jack can play together in the middle. And we need TWO strikers. Maybe a buy and a loan. And someone to replace Targett. And Dean to change. If all this happens we will be pushing for Europe....
Like me Dean Smith isn't interested in footballers who got round breaking legs.
Its glaringly and grossly a brash suggestion in today's football game.
If you're maybe talking about some time of enforcement could be wise however such foul play being approved by football fans is not what we want to read or hear.
I don't think Dean Smith way of football and today's game is suited to your out dated view of leg breakers.
That's very insensitive and I had to say something.
There certainly won't be a raft of players, it'll be fine-tuning if anything," Smith confirmed. "We made 12 signings in the summer and I've seen enough of them to see they're progressing as a team and getting better.
"At the moment we’re having discussions of possibilities. But that’s all they are."
"At the moment, we've got two players for each position," he said, looking ahead to January 1.
"It's hard enough for the players who aren't playing regular but, as I've said before, it's their job to keep me happy not the other way around because they've got to be pushing for a place in the team.
"I'm always open to additions to better the squad. They've got to be better than what you've got.
"A conversation myself, Christian (Purslow) and (sporting director) Suso have had when we're looking at additions is they've got to be better than what we've already got.
"We're continuing to do that (improving players), that's the ethos of the club, players wanting to learn and get better. We're working daily to help them improve and I'm seeing improvement individually and the team as a whole.
"If Suso comes to me and says I've got a player and we go, 'Wow!' - obviously you're silly not to explore that further."
I really hate him, though. ☹X 2
Not sure which players are improving.
Well we were up against ......... has been used quite a few times after some chastening defeats.Not sure which players are improving.
Our opponents tend to look better against us than anyone else. Look at those c***s Chelsea, for instance...
I hope he's just being diplomatic because if he really thinks we don't need improving then we are in trouble. Not signing another striker means we will be visiting The Sty next season.
QuoteThere certainly won't be a raft of players, it'll be fine-tuning if anything," Smith confirmed. "We made 12 signings in the summer and I've seen enough of them to see they're progressing as a team and getting better.
"At the moment we’re having discussions of possibilities. But that’s all they are."
"At the moment, we've got two players for each position," he said, looking ahead to January 1.
"It's hard enough for the players who aren't playing regular but, as I've said before, it's their job to keep me happy not the other way around because they've got to be pushing for a place in the team.
"I'm always open to additions to better the squad. They've got to be better than what you've got.
"A conversation myself, Christian (Purslow) and (sporting director) Suso have had when we're looking at additions is they've got to be better than what we've already got.
"We're continuing to do that (improving players), that's the ethos of the club, players wanting to learn and get better. We're working daily to help them improve and I'm seeing improvement individually and the team as a whole.
"If Suso comes to me and says I've got a player and we go, 'Wow!' - obviously you're silly not to explore that further."
Interesting / depressing story in the Athletic that Delle Alli was at Bodymoor Heath with his family on the last day of the January 2015 transfer window, all ready to sign for Villa. They were unimpressed that Paul Lambert wasn’t there in person so when Spurs came in at the last minute, he changed his mind.
What a shambles we were then.
I'm not sure he offers much up top with those small and humble breasts.
I’d be looking at Shaqiri from Liverpool add more creativity and goals from out wide. Hardly played this season and now Liverpool are about to sign the player from Salzburg who plays all across the front he’s less likely to get a game.
I’d be looking at Shaqiri from Liverpool add more creativity and goals from out wide. Hardly played this season and now Liverpool are about to sign the player from Salzburg who plays all across the front he’s less likely to get a game.
I wouldn't mind Shaqiri but ideally just on loan. He ended up being pretty unpopular for not always pulling his weight at Stoke. I think we have enough goals in the side already regarding the midfield and wingers. What we need in the window is a real goalscorer, ideally two. Even if we have to use the loan market.
I’d be looking at Shaqiri from Liverpool add more creativity and goals from out wide. Hardly played this season and now Liverpool are about to sign the player from Salzburg who plays all across the front he’s less likely to get a game.
I wouldn't mind Shaqiri but ideally just on loan. He ended up being pretty unpopular for not always pulling his weight at Stoke.
A very talented player.Who does he (not) play for these days?I thought he was very good at 'The Mighty Reds YNWA'.
Titmus
Two loans with a view to buy if we stay up. Striker and the Brentford lad. Grealish moves inside with a more offensive McGinn. Bit of shit about Luiz, however...i think a commanding central midfielder may also be on the cards.
Three clever deals in, plus a couple of outgoings.
FFP is then remedied, we sign the loans because we have survived, and then we go for the 1 or 2 in the summer that will transform us.
Anyhow, it seems the house is on fire..but hey!
SecondedTitmus
Two loans with a view to buy if we stay up. Striker and the Brentford lad. Grealish moves inside with a more offensive McGinn. Bit of shit about Luiz, however...i think a commanding central midfielder may also be on the cards.
Three clever deals in, plus a couple of outgoings.
FFP is then remedied, we sign the loans because we have survived, and then we go for the 1 or 2 in the summer that will transform us.
Anyhow, it seems the house is on fire..but hey!
If Snodgrass was available, I'd be bringing him back. Albrighton too. We need some solid pros in the squad who still have life left in their legs to lead the team in a relegation battle.. It's something we lost over the summer.
I severely doubt the likes of Whelan would have tolerated Grealish's lack of professionalism yesterday or AEG being constantly at fault for opposition goals by not doing his job.
The guys who werent good enough for us last season, Taylor, Lansbury and Kodjia to be let go.
There’s more chance of me making my debut for Villa than West Ham loaning Snoddy to us.
If Snodgrass was available, I'd be bringing him back. Albrighton too. We need some solid pros in the squad who still have life left in their legs to lead the team in a relegation battle.. It's something we lost over the summer.
I severely doubt the likes of Whelan would have tolerated Grealish's lack of professionalism yesterday or AEG being constantly at fault for opposition goals by not doing his job.
The guys who werent good enough for us last season, Taylor, Lansbury and Kodjia to be let go.
Out of interest, what lack of professionalism do you mean regarding Jack?
There’s more chance of me making my debut for Villa than West Ham loaning Snoddy to us.
We need an experienced holding player. Someone who can shore things up a bit and lead. A Premier League Whelan.
No names jump out to me tbh
If Snodgrass was available, I'd be bringing him back. Albrighton too. We need some solid pros in the squad who still have life left in their legs to lead the team in a relegation battle.. It's something we lost over the summer.
I severely doubt the likes of Whelan would have tolerated Grealish's lack of professionalism yesterday or AEG being constantly at fault for opposition goals by not doing his job.
The guys who werent good enough for us last season, Taylor, Lansbury and Kodjia to be let go.
Out of interest, what lack of professionalism do you mean regarding Jack?
I want some pace, with some pace and then some pace too. We could also do with some pace and if we can do it, and it might be tough, then we could try for some pace.
I want some pace, with some pace and then some pace too. We could also do with some pace and if we can do it, and it might be tough, then we could try for some pace.
I suggested Matic a while back. Older player but classy. Against our principle of bringing younger players through, but then getting relegated is also hugely against our principles, or so I would think!
According to an article in the times (saturday) DS says that FFP isn't a problem and he's not looking to ship players out and can bring players in if required
Unless things pick up quick I can see the owners getting a new manager in. Been trying to think of who and what could be an option? Our guys are excellent business men, doubt they want to risk their investment at this stage with regards relegation.
Sure they will be ambitious with the profile if it were to happen, but who?
- Allegri (ambitious, profile, coup) - very unlikely
- Poch - as above
- Bielsa?
- Emery
- Blanc
- Solari
- Kovac
- Southgate
- Rafa
Struggling to think of a ‘list’
Unless things pick up quick I can see the owners getting a new manager in. Been trying to think of who and what could be an option? Our guys are excellent business men, doubt they want to risk their investment at this stage with regards relegation.
Sure they will be ambitious with the profile if it were to happen, but who?
- Allegri (ambitious, profile, coup) - very unlikely
- Poch - as above
- Bielsa?
- Emery
- Blanc
- Solari
- Kovac
- Southgate
- Rafa
Struggling to think of a ‘list’
Benitez is the obvious one. Family still living in Merseyside and it's a decent project to take on.
This has been one of the key issues all season. Watch how Norwood does this so well for SheffU, for example.I want some pace, with some pace and then some pace too. We could also do with some pace and if we can do it, and it might be tough, then we could try for some pace.
In the first few games Trez looked rapid, not sure what happened there. AEG is also fast when he gets going.
Problem at this level is we're too slow moving the ball from side to side unless Jack is doing the passing so they don't have the acres of space to run into.
Edit: if we're going to have players with pace we need a player in central midfield who can effortlessly hit first time passes out wide like Barry-Petrov combination could do for Young and Gabby out wide.
This has been one of the key issues all season. Watch how Norwood does this so well for SheffU, for example.I want some pace, with some pace and then some pace too. We could also do with some pace and if we can do it, and it might be tough, then we could try for some pace.
In the first few games Trez looked rapid, not sure what happened there. AEG is also fast when he gets going.
Problem at this level is we're too slow moving the ball from side to side unless Jack is doing the passing so they don't have the acres of space to run into.
Edit: if we're going to have players with pace we need a player in central midfield who can effortlessly hit first time passes out wide like Barry-Petrov combination could do for Young and Gabby out wide.
This has been one of the key issues all season. Watch how Norwood does this so well for SheffU, for example.I want some pace, with some pace and then some pace too. We could also do with some pace and if we can do it, and it might be tough, then we could try for some pace.
In the first few games Trez looked rapid, not sure what happened there. AEG is also fast when he gets going.
Problem at this level is we're too slow moving the ball from side to side unless Jack is doing the passing so they don't have the acres of space to run into.
Edit: if we're going to have players with pace we need a player in central midfield who can effortlessly hit first time passes out wide like Barry-Petrov combination could do for Young and Gabby out wide.
I do think over time Luiz could develop into a nice continuity midfielder but he has real lapses in concentration and positioning so still very green at this level.
Hourihane can sometimes do it but that's generally against teams who just stand off him (Newcastle) There's not many teams in this league who do that.
Lots of work to do in January, much more than I was ideally hoping.
This has been one of the key issues all season. Watch how Norwood does this so well for SheffU, for example.I want some pace, with some pace and then some pace too. We could also do with some pace and if we can do it, and it might be tough, then we could try for some pace.
In the first few games Trez looked rapid, not sure what happened there. AEG is also fast when he gets going.
Problem at this level is we're too slow moving the ball from side to side unless Jack is doing the passing so they don't have the acres of space to run into.
Edit: if we're going to have players with pace we need a player in central midfield who can effortlessly hit first time passes out wide like Barry-Petrov combination could do for Young and Gabby out wide.
I do think over time Luiz could develop into a nice continuity midfielder but he has real lapses in concentration and positioning so still very green at this level.
Hourihane can sometimes do it but that's generally against teams who just stand off him (Newcastle) There's not many teams in this league who do that.
Lots of work to do in January, much more than I was ideally hoping.
This has been one of the key issues all season. Watch how Norwood does this so well for SheffU, for example.I want some pace, with some pace and then some pace too. We could also do with some pace and if we can do it, and it might be tough, then we could try for some pace.
In the first few games Trez looked rapid, not sure what happened there. AEG is also fast when he gets going.
Problem at this level is we're too slow moving the ball from side to side unless Jack is doing the passing so they don't have the acres of space to run into.
Edit: if we're going to have players with pace we need a player in central midfield who can effortlessly hit first time passes out wide like Barry-Petrov combination could do for Young and Gabby out wide.
I do think over time Luiz could develop into a nice continuity midfielder but he has real lapses in concentration and positioning so still very green at this level.
Hourihane can sometimes do it but that's generally against teams who just stand off him (Newcastle) There's not many teams in this league who do that.
Lots of work to do in January, much more than I was ideally hoping.
I think that’s it. Luiz has plenty of talent, but should be being bedded in.
Why would Leeds, in the position that they’re in currently, and Kelvin Phillips for that matter join us right now. If we were going to sign him it was last summer not now. You may as well say sign Harry Kane.
We need a proven striker, a proven PL performer or someone from overseas that plays in a top league. That’s just for starters. Wishlist striker would be Timo Werner from RB Leipzig, he knows were the back of the net is but could we get him and go 2 up top with Wes? He’d cost the thick end of 60 million but he’d get goals and keep us up.
Why would Leeds, in the position that they’re in currently, and Kelvin Phillips for that matter join us right now. If we were going to sign him it was last summer not now. You may as well say sign Harry Kane.
We need a proven striker, a proven PL performer or someone from overseas that plays in a top league. That’s just for starters. Wishlist striker would be Timo Werner from RB Leipzig, he knows were the back of the net is but could we get him and go 2 up top with Wes? He’d cost the thick end of 60 million but he’d get goals and keep us up.
Sadly, I don’t think we’re going to sign Germany’s first choice striker and probably the best young striker on the planet
Why would Leeds, in the position that they’re in currently, and Kelvin Phillips for that matter join us right now. If we were going to sign him it was last summer not now. You may as well say sign Harry Kane.
We need a proven striker, a proven PL performer or someone from overseas that plays in a top league. That’s just for starters. Wishlist striker would be Timo Werner from RB Leipzig, he knows were the back of the net is but could we get him and go 2 up top with Wes? He’d cost the thick end of 60 million but he’d get goals and keep us up.
Sadly, I don’t think we’re going to sign Germany’s first choice striker and probably the best young striker on the planet
I did say wishlist. He’ll come to England eventually though as the difference between PL club income and Bundesliga income is sizeable. So should we stay up this is the type of player that takes us to the promised next level.
I have not been impressed with Batman any time I have seen him, an upgrade on Wes yes.
Just going on what I have seen, not convinced.I have not been impressed with Batman any time I have seen him, an upgrade on Wes yes.
He has flaws as a forward but he's in similar mould to Tammy.
Palace took him on loan last January. Scored 6 goals in 11 games. Palace won 5 of those games.
We get a decisive player like that in January, we'll stay up. It's as simple as that.
Just going on what I have seen, not convinced.I have not been impressed with Batman any time I have seen him, an upgrade on Wes yes.
He has flaws as a forward but he's in similar mould to Tammy.
Palace took him on loan last January. Scored 6 goals in 11 games. Palace won 5 of those games.
We get a decisive player like that in January, we'll stay up. It's as simple as that.
Yes, in a word, desperate..Just going on what I have seen, not convinced.I have not been impressed with Batman any time I have seen him, an upgrade on Wes yes.
He has flaws as a forward but he's in similar mould to Tammy.
Palace took him on loan last January. Scored 6 goals in 11 games. Palace won 5 of those games.
We get a decisive player like that in January, we'll stay up. It's as simple as that.
Ideally we'd get in two new forwards this window. Another project/long term option and more of a Bent short fix option.
We'll probably let Kodjia go for a million or two and Davis will probably pick up more injuries so will remain very short upfront.
The bigger problem is getting the ball moving quickly in midfield I know a lot of people have decided Wesley is the worst striker the club has ever had (or similar) but for me the bigger problem is that he either gets the ball pumped up at his head or he gets a couple of seconds too late. I don't know what we do in training but I haven't seen much sign of us forming into a confident team who know each other and are playing to their strengths.
Getting in a striker who can work with the broken build up we have and hold up the ball as a focal point would be a good idea (it's what Davis does and it's why he's looked like a good option in his little cameos). For me it's more about game management more than goals, which is also why we're conceding loads despite having decent defenders.
Why would Leeds, in the position that they’re in currently, and Kelvin Phillips for that matter join us right now. If we were going to sign him it was last summer not now. You may as well say sign Harry Kane.
We need a proven striker, a proven PL performer or someone from overseas that plays in a top league. That’s just for starters. Wishlist striker would be Timo Werner from RB Leipzig, he knows were the back of the net is but could we get him and go 2 up top with Wes? He’d cost the thick end of 60 million but he’d get goals and keep us up.
We need an experienced holding player. Someone who can shore things up a bit and lead. A Premier League Whelan.
No names jump out to me tbh
NonsenseWe need an experienced holding player. Someone who can shore things up a bit and lead. A Premier League Whelan.
No names jump out to me tbh
Granit Xhaka
Adam Lallana
Lallana would be very interesting he's someone who can look after the ball and played as a deep lying midfielder for Liverpool in semi of World club cup .
Ultimately see him having to move away for regular playing time and If he wants to got o Euro 2020 then ideal . Similarly Xhaka may look for a new start and would have the steel that Villa need. Smith would just need to work on his discipline but both have good experience at this level.
I see Midfield at Villa a real weakness at the moment and that's costing games
Wanyama and Matic who was already mentioned the only other realistic players.
Mark Noble is to set in his ways at West ham though ideal but unlikely but Iwouldn't want a Jack Cork at Burnley
A compromise between those 2 would be Andrew Surman at Bournemy but don't how much better than he is to what we have got though has a steady ability on the ball.
So for me I would go Lallana .
The bigger problem is getting the ball moving quickly in midfield I know a lot of people have decided Wesley is the worst striker the club has ever had (or similar) but for me the bigger problem is that he either gets the ball pumped up at his head or he gets a couple of seconds too late. I don't know what we do in training but I haven't seen much sign of us forming into a confident team who know each other and are playing to their strengths.
Getting in a striker who can work with the broken build up we have and hold up the ball as a focal point would be a good idea (it's what Davis does and it's why he's looked like a good option in his little cameos). For me it's more about game management more than goals, which is also why we're conceding loads despite having decent defenders.
Not convinced that's true to be honest. It's pretty much the same midfield Tammy was playing infront of. We're not as effective as we were at Championship level but we still get territory, we just have a forward who doesn't make life difficult for defenders.
I'm not writing him off and hope he turns it round, but he is our biggest single problem at the moment.
The bigger problem is getting the ball moving quickly in midfield I know a lot of people have decided Wesley is the worst striker the club has ever had (or similar) but for me the bigger problem is that he either gets the ball pumped up at his head or he gets a couple of seconds too late. I don't know what we do in training but I haven't seen much sign of us forming into a confident team who know each other and are playing to their strengths.
Getting in a striker who can work with the broken build up we have and hold up the ball as a focal point would be a good idea (it's what Davis does and it's why he's looked like a good option in his little cameos). For me it's more about game management more than goals, which is also why we're conceding loads despite having decent defenders.
Not convinced that's true to be honest. It's pretty much the same midfield Tammy was playing infront of. We're not as effective as we were at Championship level but we still get territory, we just have a forward who doesn't make life difficult for defenders.
I'm not writing him off and hope he turns it round, but he is our biggest single problem at the moment.
but last season we were moving the ball quicker, and even at the start of this season as well but then we started getting a bit nervy and taking an extra touch or 2 and suddenly every team started to figure us out. Compare how we played at the weekend to the first few games of the season and we look a totally different team, now everything is tentative and played quite softly so there's loads of time for defenders to get in position to crowd players out or steal possession.
There's loads of comments about our lack of pace but I think it's more the lack of anticipation and understanding, we look slow in reaction more than flat out pace, to many players on their heels waiting for the guy on the ball to make a decision for them when they should be moving and creating space for him.
We really messed up not signing bowen and going for trezuget in my opinion. Id rather have had bowen over jota and trez combined
I was talking to a disgruntled Spurs taxi driver earlier. He was moaning that Winks isn't getting a look in as he's not a 'Mourinho player'. No idea whether that's true, but if it is, a loan for him to play at the base of midfield would gruntle me.Doubt they will sell or loan him, but very impressed with him this season. Think we might go back for Joe Lolley.
“I’ve seen enough of them to see they’re progressing as a team and getting better,”
that bit is scary
I see Gregg Evans is still getting his information from this website then! Any one of us could have written that article.
I see Gregg Evans is still getting his information from this website then! Any one of us could have written that article.
He hasn't been copying my posts, the twat. No mention of Bono being a cock.
I see Gregg Evans is still getting his information from this website then! Any one of us could have written that article.I know at least one person who couldn’t.
Isn’t one of our biggest issues lack of experience at this level?
I think Bowen is a great player, but look where he is playing.
Should we risk blowing a significant amount of money one someone who ‘could’ make the step up at this time?
Truth is, we are in a relegation battle and desperately need
some experience and nouse.
I see Gregg Evans is still getting his information from this website then! Any one of us could have written that article.I know at least one person who couldn’t.
I see Gregg Evans is still getting his information from this website then! Any one of us could have written that article.
He hasn't been copying my posts, the twat. No mention of Bono being a cock.
I see Gregg Evans is still getting his information from this website then! Any one of us could have written that article.
He hasn't been copying my posts, the twat. No mention of Bono being a cock.
Get in two or three Scotsmen. We need backbone.You mean similar to their national team?
We really need a wide player to cross the ball to our Centre forward.what is the point of crossing to a centre forward who 1/ cant head the ball 2/ doesnt get in the box 3/ doesn't get in front of the centre half ?
I think you did not pick up on my sarcasm, exactly this.We really need a wide player to cross the ball to our Centre forward.what is the point of crossing to a centre forward who 1/ cant head the ball 2/ doesnt get in the box 3/ doesn't get in front of the centre half ?
A whole new forward line and a couple of midfielders to compliment Jack. Wes, Trez, AEG, Marv and Luiz simply aren’t good enough I’m afraid.
Probably a long shot, but maybe we can loan Ryan Sessegnon from Spurs to temporarily solve our left back problem.Danny Rose as Moanio won’t pick him and he is running down his contract
Probably a long shot, but maybe we can loan Ryan Sessegnon from Spurs to temporarily solve our left back problem.Danny Rose as Moanio won’t pick him and he is running down his contract
The transfer policy last summer made sense - and can still bear fruit.
I haven't written Marvellous or Luiz off, even if they are still adapting.
But Heaton shows the value of veering away from being too dogmatic about younger players with resale value.
For that reason, I'd look at Joe Allen at Stoke. A PL midfielder playing currently Championship football. Someone who will get on the ball and take responsibility. Providing Stoke aren't looking mental money, it's a deal that would make sense.
Up top we probably don't have the money to lavish £20-30 million on a forward, but a judicious loan of striker outside the madhouse of English football might see is through. Unless we are able to offload Kalinac, Kojdia etc for reasonable fees.
I also think there is a decent player in both trezeguet and el Ghazi but they are both capable of completely disappearing in games, especially when the pressure is on, which is unforgivable in a relegation fight.
The fella playing for Norwich on their right wing is good. He tore Targett a new one today. Maybe a Bid?
The fella playing for Norwich on their right wing is good. He tore Targett a new one today. Maybe a Bid?
Sadly that’s no judgement of quality
The fella playing for Norwich on their right wing is good. He tore Targett a new one today. Maybe a Bid?
Sadly that’s no judgement of quality
Cantwell is a great player, got a bit of Stevie G about him.
The fella playing for Norwich on their right wing is good. He tore Targett a new one today. Maybe a Bid?
Sadly that’s no judgement of quality
Cantwell is a great player, got a bit of Stevie G about him.
For what it's worth the guy who sits on the end of my row (two to my left) is mates with Dean Smith's next door neighbour (yeah I know).
And he reckons we've done a deal to sign Olivier Giroud on loan.
I mean their right back Aarons.Cantwell is a great player, got a bit of Stevie G about him.The fella playing for Norwich on their right wing is good. He tore Targett a new one today. Maybe a Bid?Sadly that’s no judgement of quality
I'm not keen on Giroud. We already have a non-scoring forward.
Benteke return may be on the cards. Loan to buy (from what I’ve heard last night)
This is as uninspiring gossip and hearsay about an incoming 'striker' as this time eleven years ago.
I wonder if we could get Snodgrass back. I doubt it, but his type would work for us, experienced, works hard, creates a fair bit and scores a few. Seems to be first choice at Spam now though..
I wonder if we could get Snodgrass back. I doubt it, but his type would work for us, experienced, works hard, creates a fair bit and scores a few. Seems to be first choice at Spam now though.
I wonder if we could get Snodgrass back. I doubt it, but his type would work for us, experienced, works hard, creates a fair bit and scores a few. Seems to be first choice at Spam now though.
Mark Noble . Though thought unrealistic other day . Way he was getting upset yesterday he clearly needs to leave West Ham can come show the passion at the villa.
Sort of midfield general we need.
Benteke needs loving and that's what the Villa fans would do with him as we know his strengths. It's a yes from me!
Benteke needs loving and that's what the Villa fans would do with him as we know his strengths. It's a yes from me!
It’s a no from me, he’s earned (well not really) his money now and is chillaxing.
Benteke needs loving and that's what the Villa fans would do with him as we know his strengths. It's a yes from me!
It’s a no from me, he’s earned (well not really) his money now and is chillaxing.
Therefore, he has a point to prove and is coming 'home'. No?
I wonder if we could get Snodgrass back. I doubt it, but his type would work for us, experienced, works hard, creates a fair bit and scores a few. Seems to be first choice at Spam now though.
Mark Noble . Though thought unrealistic other day . Way he was getting upset yesterday he clearly needs to leave West Ham can come show the passion at the villa.
Sort of midfield general we need.
There is no way he is going to leave West Ham and I doubt him losing his temper means he needs to leave. He'll probably retire there and become a coach.
The original rumour was in relation to a loan with the view to a permanent signing. If we had him on loan we could truly see whether he's just 'chillaxing' now or whether there's hope that we could bring out of him what we've had before.
Benteke return may be on the cards. Loan to buy (from what I’ve heard last night)
Benteke return may be on the cards. Loan to buy (from what I’ve heard last night)
Wouldn't be the worst shout ever, Palace seem safe already and Bentekes next move if he doesn't start scoring goals soon is the MLS or China.
If Benteke is the answer what is up with the scouting ?the scouting is looking for strikers better than Wesley - which also means the recruits don't have to be too good...
I was told about the Benteke thing yesterday, pretty reliable source too. Let’s see what transpires, however I’d take him for sure.
If Benteke is the answer what is up with the scouting ?
Think id rather have Gavin McCann than Mark Noble. He'd have more pace and he must be in his 40s now.
Think id rather have Gavin McCann than Mark Noble. He'd have more pace and he must be in his 40s now.
I'd give Madeline McCann a chance over Mark Noble.
Think id rather have Gavin McCann than Mark Noble. He'd have more pace and he must be in his 40s now.
I'd give Madeline McCann a chance over Mark Noble.
Not sure about that. We have enough players that go missing.
Did I hear the Turkish bloke Liverpool bought from Stoke is available? He’d be great for us.
Did I hear the Turkish bloke Liverpool bought from Stoke is available? He’d be great for us.
Do you mean the Kosovar-Swiss bloke who sounds like a Colombian pop star? If so, I agree.
Not sure on Benteke.
The 2012-15 version, aye. But he's been MIA for over four years now.
A quick glimpse on Holmsdale.net will give you all the information you need to decide if we should sign Benteke.
To be fair I think most of us are pretty happy with how Ayew is performing this season, but you need more than one striker in the squad (no, I don't count Benteke).
I like the sound of that Costa Rican, done deal apparently.
Sorry Franky, it was just a reply to all the butter ollocks.I like the sound of that Costa Rican, done deal apparently.
What player is this ?
His name is Benteke, though.And it's still ridiculous.
If his name wasn't Benteke the idea of signing someone with his recent record would be quite rightly regarded as ridiculous. It's a no from me. Underlined.
I don't know. Not sure how you can be so certain. He's 29, there's no reason why he can't be good again. Then again, he might stay shite. I'd rather have him that Wesley up front. Then again, I'd like to see us get Cavani if possible.I agree he 'could' be good again but I can't see any convincing reason to believe he will. Not only will he have to turn around 2 or 3 years of very poor fkrm, he'll have to do it instantly and under great pressure. There must be less risky options than him surely.
He would be brilliant and I’ve loved him since I found out his German nickname was krarfwurfel.
But he’s probably going to get minutes and presumably will hang around for a league winner’s medal.
He would be brilliant and I’ve loved him since I found out his German nickname was krarfwurfel.
But he’s probably going to get minutes and presumably will hang around for a league winner’s medal.
Shaqiri would be great but probably occupies the same space as Grealish and why would he leave Liverpool when he's on the verge of more silverware? Even without playing much he'd be mad to leave mid-season.
Benteke return may be on the cards. Loan to buy (from what I’ve heard last night)
Wouldn't be the worst shout ever, Palace seem safe already and Bentekes next move if he doesn't start scoring goals soon is the MLS or China.
He also has the EUROs coming up next summer. I can't see him getting near the Belgium side right now so a move may be on his mind.
January transfer window shopping list:
Morelos - £25m
Mitrovic - £20m
Benrahma - £15m
Bowen - £15m
Vida - £5m
Yes please.
January transfer window shopping list:
Morelos - £25m
Mitrovic - £20m
Benrahma - £15m
Bowen - £15m
Vida - £5m
Yes please.
We desperately need a solid central midfielder in the January window. I would say it is now second on the list behind a striker.
Which wasn't the point, he's been in all their squads in 2019 so him not getting near their team is obviously incorrect.
January transfer window shopping list:
Morelos - £25m
Mitrovic - £20m
Benrahma - £15m
Bowen - £15m
Vida - £5m
Yes please.
We desperately need a solid central midfielder in the January window. I would say it is now second on the list behind a striker.
Gareth Barry 😎
Mitrovic scored in 4 of his last 31 league appearances last season so I wouldn't be in a rush to chuck a load of money at him.Exactly this.
Benteke return may be on the cards. Loan to buy (from what I’ve heard last night)
Wouldn't be the worst shout ever, Palace seem safe already and Bentekes next move if he doesn't start scoring goals soon is the MLS or China.
He also has the EUROs coming up next summer. I can't see him getting near the Belgium side right now so a move may be on his mind.
Apart from Belgium's very last game when he scored twice and missed two sitters.
Benteke would be a huge mistake, he is physically and mentally spent.
Check what Palace fans think of him.
Benteke would be a huge mistake, he is physically and mentally spent.
Check what Palace fans think of him.
Roy Hogdson is an intentionally renowned manager so he knows a good player when he sees one.
If he not selecting Benetke then that's because he knows he's not up to standard. As he said in his comments on him
I would've been well up for Benteke two years ago.
Just feel like it's the wrong move now. He hardly scores nowadays and think his mobility has been reduced with the injuries he's had so it won't be the guy roaming around the pitch like in his first season here.
He also seems to have lost a bit of motivation to me. Seems he always wanted to live in London given his quotes when he moved to us so he's now doing that and pretty happy being a squad striker there.
So you think a Hodgson has got it wrong with Benteke.Benteke would be a huge mistake, he is physically and mentally spent.
Check what Palace fans think of him.
Roy Hogdson is an intentionally renowned manager so he knows a good player when he sees one.
If he not selecting Benetke then that's because he knows he's not up to standard. As he said in his comments on him
So Hodgson always gets it right with players and coaching? If that's the case why has he worked at something like 20 clubs?
I would've been well up for Benteke two years ago.
Just feel like it's the wrong move now. He hardly scores nowadays and think his mobility has been reduced with the injuries he's had so it won't be the guy roaming around the pitch like in his first season here.
He also seems to have lost a bit of motivation to me. Seems he always wanted to live in London given his quotes when he moved to us so he's now doing that and pretty happy being a squad striker there.
4 goals in last 61 games, fair to say he is miles of the player he once was.
So you think a Hodgson has got it wrong with Benteke.Benteke would be a huge mistake, he is physically and mentally spent.
Check what Palace fans think of him.
Roy Hogdson is an intentionally renowned manager so he knows a good player when he sees one.
If he not selecting Benetke then that's because he knows he's not up to standard. As he said in his comments on him
So Hodgson always gets it right with players and coaching? If that's the case why has he worked at something like 20 clubs?
But we don't make many chances. We've gone from a position of making around 20 a game down to no more than a handful if we're lucky. Our biggest problem isn't having a centre-forward not putting chances away, it's that we've stopped creating those chances.This.
What about Andre Ayew? Been brilliant for Swansea and experienced. 18 months left on his deal and they're always looking to sell. Much better player than Trez or Anwar.
Him and Joe Allen would give us a lot more experience in areas we need it. A couple of players in the 28-32 range would really make a difference IMO.
That's a superb shout.
Best of the window outside of my Lallana suggestion
Whoever we buy we need experience not potential. That doesn't mean someone on their last legs but the team is crying out for some calmness.
Watching Wolves last night, Moutinho adds that level of experience we're missing.
What about Andre Ayew? Been brilliant for Swansea and experienced. 18 months left on his deal and they're always looking to sell. Much better player than Trez or Anwar.
Him and Joe Allen would give us a lot more experience in areas we need it. A couple of players in the 28-32 range would really make a difference IMO.
That's a superb shout.
Best of the window outside of my Lallana suggestion
Every time I have watched Aaron Mooy play this season he has stood out, on loan from Huddersfield how I wish he was with us he would be a great back up if jack got injured.He would walk into our midfield..
Benteke, Giroud and Benrahma wouldn't be all bad.
Benteke, Giroud and Benrahma wouldn't be all bad.
A threesome with Holly Willoughby and Scarlett Johannson wouldn’t be all bad, and is about as likely.
Benteke, Giroud and Benrahma wouldn't be all bad.
A threesome with Holly Willoughby and Scarlett Johannson wouldn’t be all bad, and is about as likely.
So you're saying there's a chance?
Benteke, Giroud and Benrahma wouldn't be all bad.
A threesome with Holly Willoughby and Scarlett Johannson wouldn’t be all bad, and is about as likely.
So you're saying there's a chance?
There's always a chance. I mean obviously it wouldn't be my first choice, but I think it would do.
Every time I have watched Aaron Mooy play this season he has stood out, on loan from Huddersfield how I wish he was with us he would be a great back up if jack got injured.He would walk into our midfield..
Brighton dominated us until he got sent off.
I think luiz despute his mistake has huge potential. He was excellent against norwich and made a silly mistake.
Lets nit forget how young he is also.
He personally has no affiliation to us though and will have a lot of suitors next month, none of whom are in the bottom three. Amazed he didn't move in the summer.
I think luiz despute his mistake has huge potential. He was excellent against norwich and made a silly mistake.
Lets nit forget how young he is also.
Agree.
Does Vida speak English?
I think luiz despute his mistake has huge potential. He was excellent against norwich and made a silly mistake.
Lets nit forget how young he is also.
Vida would be a mad signing.
Vida would be a mad signing.
Turn you, inside out
We're livin' la vida loca
He'll score another goal
Livin' la vida loca
He is a Villa boy
And his kit's claret and blue
He will wear you out
Livin' la vida loca (Come on!)
Livin' la vida loca (Come on!)
We're livin' la vida loca
A new low for that once proud poster.
or ….. all those years living in the Republic of YorkshireA new low for that once proud poster.
I've been with my wife and kids for the last 6 days. I think my brain has finally given in.
A couple of people on VT have 'heard' we won't be signing a CF or winger in January. Must be total bollocks as we will simply sink like a stone if we don't.
A couple of people on VT have 'heard' we won't be signing a CF or winger in January. Must be total bollocks as we will simply sink like a stone if we don't.
A couple of people on VT have 'heard' we won't be signing a CF or winger in January. Must be total bollocks as we will simply sink like a stone if we don't.
A huge no to Drinkwater. Absolute bell end, last thing we need in the squad right now.
A huge no to Drinkwater. Absolute bell end, last thing we need in the squad right now.
A huge no to Drinkwater. Absolute bell end, last thing we need in the squad right now.
Summarized very well. And frankly if we are putting our chances for survival into players like this we are fucked. I’d like to think we have cast our net a little wider and a little more creatively than tossers like Drinkwater. A less appropriately named bloke there never was.
Drinkwater and Terry out on Broadstreet.
Lock up your daughters, wives, sisters and nans.
The other issue with DD, has he actually played a game in the last 3 years? I think we’d be scraping the cunting barrel with that one.
Things are bad but surely not that desperate ....The other issue with DD, has he actually played a game in the last 3 years? I think we’d be scraping the cunting barrel with that one.
1 Premier League game for 59 minutes in 2 years. No thank you very much.
Drinkwater and Morelos. We'll be back on Quest TV by August.
I know, I am just enjoying the word play and don’t for one minute think we will sign him.Drinkwater and Morelos. We'll be back on Quest TV by August.
I love how some fans react to random links on the Internet.
So, we need a cheap (next to nothing cost) striker, that is easily available, knows the English leagues, ideally knows the club, isn’t a target man and guarantees goals. What’s Ross McCormack doing these days?Propping up a bar next to Drinkwater.
I thought Drinkwater would turn out to be a decent signing for Burnley but I was wrong. Which doesn't give me any confidence he would do any good for us. If Smith and Terry think they can get a tune out of him then great but personally I don't see it working out well.
... If Smith and Terry think they can get a tune out of him then great but personally I don't see it working out well.bearing in mind they - or someone - thought they could 'get a tune' out of several of our existing squad members ....
It just proves yet again, when you are under pressure your decision making is affected and suddenly ‘any old shit’ will do.
Then again, maybe our team is too nice. Maybe need a c*** who gets into bar fights and tries it on with other players partners, to build to real spirit in the team.
Who are we to question when their transfer policy has been so good up to now?
It just proves yet again, when you are under pressure your decision making is affected and suddenly ‘any old shit’ will do.
Then again, maybe our team is too nice. Maybe need a c*** who gets into bar fights and tries it on with other players partners, to build to real spirit in the team.
Who are we to question when their transfer policy has been so good up to now?
You know he hasn't joined, right?
Didn’t even know he’d gone on loan to Burnley. Why has it pear shaped for him up there and why isn’t he getting any game time?
Edit: according to Google search, he got battered by 6 blokes after being thrown out of a nightclub in Manchester and trying it on with a Scunthorpes players girlfriend.
Didn’t even know he’d gone on loan to Burnley. Why has it pear shaped for him up there and why isn’t he getting any game time?
Edit: according to Google search, he got battered by 6 blokes after being thrown out of a nightclub in Manchester and trying it on with a Scunthorpes players girlfriend.
I can't see the Drinkwater transfer happening myself. I just don't see John Terry standing for that type of nonsense going on at the club.
If we sign this bloke I'm giving up.
it's an opinion site Dave and I'm entitled to mine without the messianic superciliousness.
I wouldn't mind if we signed him Drinkwater proven Premier League player and somebody who could help us out.
I wouldn't mind if we signed him Drinkwater proven Premier League player and somebody who could help us out.
Ashley Westwood is keeping him out of the Burnley team...
I wouldn't mind if we signed him Drinkwater proven Premier League player and somebody who could help us out.
Ashley Westwood is keeping him out of the Burnley team...
Forgive my ignorance but why the anti drinkwater sentiment? Seemed like just a meh signing but seems to have stirred things up. Is there off the pitch stuff that’s passed me by?
I personally think super JT needs tk be getting on the phone to chelsea and try gets batshyuai in on loan. Im sure tammy would also put in a good word for us.
He would eb a brilliant jan signing for us
I personally think super JT needs tk be getting on the phone to chelsea and try gets batshyuai in on loan. Im sure tammy would also put in a good word for us.
He would eb a brilliant jan signing for us
Funny you say that because some gossip merchant on FB has just suggested that we're in for him. Pure coincidence that you posted shortly afterwards though. ;D
In the Sky article, it says he would be a replacement for McGinn. He's nothing like him. Thinking about it though, some experience of some sort in the midfield might not be a bad thing
Forgive my ignorance but why the anti drinkwater sentiment? Seemed like just a meh signing but seems to have stirred things up. Is there off the pitch stuff that’s passed me by?If we sign him I hope it turns out well but I can’t help having a Stephen Ireland feeling about this.
It's paper/twitter talk and all that talk is of a loan, it's not like we've already signed him for a big wedge and lengthy contract.
I don’t know why Danny Drinkwater (premier league winner and England international) is currently out of favour at Burnley, but if he does join, I won’t write him off. Our own Tyrone was deemed superfluous at Bournemouth, and that worked out ok.
I don’t know why Danny Drinkwater (premier league winner and England international) is currently out of favour at Burnley, but if he does join, I won’t write him off. Our own Tyrone was deemed superfluous at Bournemouth, and that worked out ok.
It's paper/twitter talk and all that talk is of a loan, it's not like we've already signed him for a big wedge and lengthy contract.
There is no recent evidence to suggest he would make our team better, and every indication that he would make our dressing room worse.
It's paper/twitter talk and all that talk is of a loan, it's not like we've already signed him for a big wedge and lengthy contract.
Yes but it would probably indicate that no other midfielders were coming in. If it happens, I think this would be as pointless as last year’s Tom Carroll loan.
The evidence that he is a pisshead and a wastrel.
The evidence that he is a pisshead and a wastrel.
It's paper/twitter talk and all that talk is of a loan, it's not like we've already signed him for a big wedge and lengthy contract.
Yes but it would probably indicate that no other midfielders were coming in. If it happens, I think this would be as pointless as last year’s Tom Carroll loan.
Why would a loan, if it happens, indicate no one else is coming in, have we said we're only going to sign 1 midfielder?
I think we're looking at 4.
Centre half, central midfielder, striker and a winger.
I don't think Maupay will leave, the others however......
are all lower division players with potential. I think we're after experience?
And i'm asking why you think it indicates that. It's kind of how a debate works dude :P
I don't think Maupay will leave, the others however......
are all lower division players with potential. I think we're after experience?
Forgive my ignorance but why the anti drinkwater sentiment? Seemed like just a meh signing but seems to have stirred things up. Is there off the pitch stuff that’s passed me by?
Likes a night out apparently, and was out for weeks after he got a good hiding in a night club trying to chat up somebody else's girlfriend.
The Guardian are saying that the Werder Bremen winger, Milot Rashica, is a Villa target ... no idea what he's like or if he's even gettable
The Guardian are saying that the Werder Bremen winger, Milot Rashica, is a Villa target ... no idea what he's like or if he's even gettable
The evidence that he is a pisshead and a wastrel.
He's a wobber and a wapist.
I've been watching Brexit debates and I think foreigners like to ask for a lot of money but we are under no obligation to pay. They need us more than we need them.
Offer them £3 million and tell them if they don't take it we will stop buying German cars.
That'll show Fritz who's boss.
Like the look of Vida. Remember him from the World Cup. Looked a warrior.
Like the look of Vida. Remember him from the World Cup. Looked a warrior.
Looks more like a mugger to me.
Vida and Bat from Chelsea are truthful links
Vida and Bat from Chelsea are truthful links
I've been watching Brexit debates and I think foreigners like to ask for a lot of money but we are under no obligation to pay. They need us more than we need them.
Offer them £3 million and tell them if they don't take it we will stop buying German cars.
That'll show Fritz who's boss.
Like the look of Vida. Remember him from the World Cup. Looked a warrior.
Vida and Bat from Chelsea are truthful links
Excellent. Hopefully we can get them in. Add in an experienced midfielder (not Drinkie) and I'd be confident of staying up with those additions.
Forgive my ignorance but why the anti drinkwater sentiment? Seemed like just a meh signing but seems to have stirred things up. Is there off the pitch stuff that’s passed me by?
Likes a night out apparently, and was out for weeks after he got a good hiding in a night club trying to chat up somebody else's girlfriend.
Vida and Bat from Chelsea are truthful links
Excellent. Hopefully we can get them in. Add in an experienced midfielder (not Drinkie) and I'd be confident of staying up with those additions.
I still think a winger with either pace or a goal threat is a must. Wilson and Kent in the summer over Trez and El Ghazi would have made a real difference. Bowen would be a great signing.
Have we signed anyone yet?
Bowen & Drinkwater are on their way. Definitely. I heard that off a good source. ( my mate down the pub who's brothers mate is a steward at Villa Park )
You're welcome. UTV 😜Bowen & Drinkwater are on their way. Definitely. I heard that off a good source. ( my mate down the pub who's brothers mate is a steward at Villa Park )
I laugh in the face of ITK that's from a source below the level of mate of a mate that knows Smith's next door neighbour.
Big Chris fancies a move, it seems: https://twitter.com/chrisbenteke/status/1212091095879995392If that’s the player who we got I’d be very very happy.
Big Chris fancies a move, it seems: https://twitter.com/chrisbenteke/status/1212091095879995392If that’s the player who we got I’d be very very happy.
The romanticist in me would hope that Tekkers coming back 'home' would reinvigorate him. For whatever reason Woy has never rated him. I'm not sure Dean would either, because sometimes you have to let Benteke have a bit of a stroll in games. We indulged him in a way Liverpool were never going to, and indeed Palace under Woy.Big Chris fancies a move, it seems: https://twitter.com/chrisbenteke/status/1212091095879995392If that’s the player who we got I’d be very very happy.
Wouldn't be the worst signing in the world would it? Especially after what has happened to Wesley today. Palace will probably put the price up now though!
I was row S, but right inline with the Mee tackle on Wesley. Looked very heavy and clumsy, with Wesley in a lot of pain.
I think Benteke on loan now, as well as whoever the primary target was, is now a must.
He's out for a few weeks, though. Would rather we had someone in for the Man City game, at the latest. I'm not against the idea of bringing Benteke back in principal, but can't be arsed to pay massive wages while he sits in the physio room.
He's out for a few weeks, though. Would rather we had someone in for the Man City game, at the latest. I'm not against the idea of bringing Benteke back in principal, but can't be arsed to pay massive wages while he sits in the physio room.
Benteke and Bowen? We probably need the pair now that Wes is injured.
don't know if Benteke would work out
you always think he will just pick up where he left off but obviously in the real world it does't happen like that
if he's injured and out for a few weeks as been suggested he'll be no good to us anyway as we need someone now
my 11 year old would be delighted to see big Ben back he was his very first football hero and like your first love or your first kiss you never forget (just ask brian)
don't know if Benteke would work out
you always think he will just pick up where he left off but obviously in the real world it does't happen like that
if he's injured and out for a few weeks as been suggested he'll be no good to us anyway as we need someone now
my 11 year old would be delighted to see big Ben back he was his very first football hero and like your first love or your first kiss you never forget (just ask brian)
Surely a better option from the bench than your mate Kodjia?
Sign him up.
If Drinkwater was "definitely" on his way, he wouldn't be on Burnley's bench today.Erm my comment was tongue in cheek. As Manuel would say "i know nussink"
He may sign, but the fact that he is in their squad suggests it isn't a done deal.
The price of strikers just went up by 25%, with Wesley's injury and JK obviously not a viable alternative.
Jeez, Wes's injury is a shocker!
We were looking at signing another striker before this, so we may see two coming in now. Im guessing here but...for me,Batshuayi now looks nailed on.
Another one that i think will happen is Hull's Bowen. He can play both wide and at top, so gives us a bit more versatility with team selection/cover.
Any big money will probably go on linking up Benrahma with Smith again.
Judging by the related comments on here concerning Drinkwater and Vida coming in, not everyone will be happy, but i can see these coming pretty quickly, and will make us more solid.
So, these are whom im expecting over the next couple of weeks, most before Man City hopefully.
Batshuayi on Loan
Drinkwater on Loan
Bowen
Benrahma
Vida
We could buy a BMW...
Benrahma, Mbeumo and Watkins.
Well, we didn't seem to get much past clubs starting with BR- in the football directory in the summer.
I don't see why anyone thinks we're going to sign a 5th goalkeeper, 6th if you include Sarkic.
I don't see why anyone thinks we're going to sign a 5th goalkeeper, 6th if you include Sarkic.I know it looks crazy but we literally need " a safe pair of hands" ie a keeper with Premier League experience - on loan until seasons end - that is if Heaton is crocked and out
I don't see why anyone thinks we're going to sign a 5th goalkeeper, 6th if you include Sarkic.I know it looks crazy but we literally need " a safe pair of hands" ie a keeper with Premier League experience - on loan until seasons end - that is if Heaton is crocked and out
fair point .....yes we have sufficient cover but is it of the quality to be relied upon over the next 4/5 months - more than ever we need a settled defence in front of the keeperI don't see why anyone thinks we're going to sign a 5th goalkeeper, 6th if you include Sarkic.I know it looks crazy but we literally need " a safe pair of hands" ie a keeper with Premier League experience - on loan until seasons end - that is if Heaton is crocked and out
We're still not going to do it. 5 or 6, depending on how you view Sarkic, first team goalkeepers is mental. Only chance is if we shift a couple with Kalinic being the most likely.
We don't need a keeper. Keep Nyland for the league games and Kalinic for the cups. That'll do us until Steer gets back. Recall Sarkic to sit on the bench if one of them gets injured.
Bowen, Batshuayi, Benteke, Benrahma. Job done. Add in a decent keeper on loan if possible.
Bowen, Batshuayi, Benteke, Benrahma. Job done. Add in a decent keeper on loan if possible.
We could buy a BMW...
Benrahma, Mbeumo and Watkins.
Well, we didn't seem to get much past clubs starting with BR- in the football directory in the summer.
Other than Southampton, Bournemouth, Reims, Kasimpasa, Man City, Burnley, Wolves, Caen, Birmingham and Lille, you mean?
We don't need a keeper. Keep Nyland for the league games and Kalinic for the cups. That'll do us until Steer gets back. Recall Sarkic to sit on the bench if one of them gets injured.
One out and out striker, another who can play across the front, a CB and CM
One out and out striker, another who can play across the front, a CB and CM
One out and out striker, another who can play across the front, a CB and CM
Is that your wishlist or have you heard whispering those are our targets?
Man City's 3rd choice keeper is Scott Carson.
Michel Vorm is third choice still at Tottingham. Looked decent for Swansea, but I'd be concerned about a player who has been content to be a bench option as long as he has.
Souuthampton have Alex McCarthy, Angus Gunn and Fraser Forster. Forster has been doing well on loan at Celtic, but as was the case with Grabban, we know loans can be terminated if the player gets a better offer.
Those are just a few examples who would be better to my mind than Nyland. There will be plenty of others.
Michel Vorm is third choice still at Tottingham. Looked decent for Swansea, but I'd be concerned about a player who has been content to be a bench option as long as he has.
Souuthampton have Alex McCarthy, Angus Gunn and Fraser Forster. Forster has been doing well on loan at Celtic, but as was the case with Grabban, we know loans can be terminated if the player gets a better offer.
Those are just a few examples who would be better to my mind than Nyland. There will be plenty of others.
There used to be the odd older safe pair of hands type keeper around, but not anymore. Getting a loan would be tough that is any better than Nyland. Part of me puts his general shakiness down to 1. not being prepared for how physical the championship is and 2. only having Chester in front of him that could defend. Having Mings, Engels, Hause, Konsa etc in front of him will help a lot. Steer back in Feb too hopefully. Spurs have issues in goal, Southampton can't decide between their 1 and 2, none of the top 4 will let their 2nd choice go etc. Best you could hope for is offering a massive loan fee for a Butland in the Championship, but his form has been pretty rotten for Stoke. Bring a keeper in from a similar league and you are gambling on them getting up to speed. On paper Kalinic looks great, Croatian number 1, big, imposing etc, but looked awful on the pitch. If Nyland can just keep it solid for a few weeks, we could get by.
If we are going 3 at the back, and Smith appears to be using McGinns injury as his reason for changing it, then an extra centre half is a good idea. Chester isn't ready for the premier league every week, Mings gets knocks, none of the others are leaders. Getting another leader in there is a good move.
Up front though, we have to buy 2 forwards. If they are good quality, playing this system, we stay up IMO. Such a shame because Wesley actually looked the part for the first time in his general game today too. Powerful, used the ball well, got 2-3 good chances and was alert.
Forster is on a season long loan to Celtic.
I think any Nylandvwill be fine.
He came and caught a very difficult cross which Heaton would not have taken.
He is good reflex keeper his main problem is his kicking, which I am sure they have worked on.
His throwing is very good.
He's on loan, he's not going to get a pay rise joining us on loan, or a signing on fee.
It's so mental it's almost brilliant.
One out and out striker, another who can play across the front, a CB and CM
Is that your wishlist or have you heard whispering those are our targets?
What I heard
Begonia on loan till the summer is a good shout if Heston is out for the season
Andre Green off to Charlton on loan
We could also swop Kalinic with one of the keepers of the club he'll be joining.
Obviously have no idea where he'll be going so that leaves a wide open field of suggestions.
That seems an unnecessary gamble. Would rather Kalinic than Sarkic, but okay!
Sturridge has 4 goals and 4 assists in 9 League games so far this season and 3 goals in 2 games in the Cup.Him managing 9 league games must be some sort of record for him.
Sturridge has 4 goals and 4 assists in 9 League games so far this season and 3 goals in 2 games in the Cup.
Doesn't this apply to most of our youngsters we loan them out for experience but they never seem to improve enough to come back.
Signing a new keeper isn't necessary.
Doesn't this apply to most of our youngsters we loan them out for experience but they never seem to improve enough to come back.
The either sink or swim. Most of ours are the former with Jack being the exception. As I recall Jack got plenty of games time with Notts County whereas a lot of the other players don’t seem to get game time due to injuries or attitude etc.
I think in the case of RHM and Green, injuries have blighted their development. It's been similar with Keinan, although he's generally (when fit) been in our first time more than we may have expected in comparison to the other two. But then Gabby was deemed to have less natural ability than the Moores and we know how their respective careers turned out.Doesn't this apply to most of our youngsters we loan them out for experience but they never seem to improve enough to come back.
The either sink or swim. Most of ours are the former with Jack being the exception. As I recall Jack got plenty of games time with Notts County whereas a lot of the other players don’t seem to get game time due to injuries or attitude etc.
Jack got plenty of game time because he was good enough to not only play for, but to stand out in, Notts County's first team - even as a teenager. Sometimes the youngsters we send out on loan simply aren't good enough to make it at the top level, and they can even struggle at a level or two below - such is the gap at youth/u21 level vs full professionals.
Sometimes players do great on loan, and then don't push on with us. Remember Luke Moore's loan at Wycombe? I'm sure he scored a hat-trick and a couple of others despite only being with them a few weeks before coming back and straight into our first-team. Started well, then faded, unfortunately.
The reality is, it's pretty rare for clubs to nurture players all the way through the youth set-up and to have them make a sustained impact in the first-team. We are incredibly lucky to have Jack doing just that right now. As we were with Gabby, Darius and Barry before him. I can't think of many premier league sides that have more than one or two entirely home-grown players in their elevens each week? Chelsea have had it forced on them this season, obviously, but not sure who else?
I agree. But only on the condition that we don't release Kalinic until at least one of Steer or Heaton is back.Yep, fair enough.
Batshuayi is a very similar player to tammy from what i have seen. He is strong big and can score. Think that might be one of the reasons chelsea would let him go.
Get him on loan with option to buy in summer. He did very well at palace last year.
Batshuayi news heating up..
Batshuayi is a very similar player to tammy from what i have seen. He is strong big and can score. Think that might be one of the reasons chelsea would let him go.
Get him on loan with option to buy in summer. He did very well at palace last year.
Do we really want to sign a player with a surname that difficult to spell correctly? Some of our fans had enough trouble with Kozak.
I'm not sure we can claim that Barry is a home grown player. Wasn't he 17 or 18 when we poached him from Brighton?
Batshuayi is a very similar player to tammy from what i have seen. He is strong big and can score. Think that might be one of the reasons chelsea would let him go.
Get him on loan with option to buy in summer. He did very well at palace last year.
Do we really want to sign a player with a surname that difficult to spell correctly? Some of our fans had enough trouble with Kozak.
Batshuayi is a very similar player to tammy from what i have seen. He is strong big and can score. Think that might be one of the reasons chelsea would let him go.
Get him on loan with option to buy in summer. He did very well at palace last year.
Do we really want to sign a player with a surname that difficult to spell correctly? Some of our fans had enough trouble with Kozak.
Kozak? People couldn't get Ciaran Clarke right
Batshuayi is a very similar player to tammy from what i have seen. He is strong big and can score. Think that might be one of the reasons chelsea would let him go.
Get him on loan with option to buy in summer. He did very well at palace last year.
Do we really want to sign a player with a surname that difficult to spell correctly? Some of our fans had enough trouble with Kozak.
Kozak? People couldn't get Ciaran Clarke right
So ably demonstrated.
Batshuayi is a very similar player to tammy from what i have seen. He is strong big and can score. Think that might be one of the reasons chelsea would let him go.
Get him on loan with option to buy in summer. He did very well at palace last year.
Do we really want to sign a player with a surname that difficult to spell correctly? Some of our fans had enough trouble with Kozak.
Kozak? People couldn't get Ciaran Clarke right
So ably demonstrated.
Insert "that's the joke" meme.
Batshuayi is a very similar player to tammy from what i have seen. He is strong big and can score. Think that might be one of the reasons chelsea would let him go.
Get him on loan with option to buy in summer. He did very well at palace last year.
Do we really want to sign a player with a surname that difficult to spell correctly? Some of our fans had enough trouble with Kozak.
Kozak? People couldn't get Ciaran Clarke right
So ably demonstrated.
Insert "that's the joke" meme.
*Realises failure to insert winky casts doubt on intention of post.*
Batshuayi is a very similar player to tammy from what i have seen. He is strong big and can score. Think that might be one of the reasons chelsea would let him go.
Get him on loan with option to buy in summer. He did very well at palace last year.
Do we really want to sign a player with a surname that difficult to spell correctly? Some of our fans had enough trouble with Kozak.
Kozak? People couldn't get Ciaran Clarke right
So ably demonstrated.
Insert "that's the joke" meme.
*Realises failure to insert winky casts doubt on intention of post.*
You used to be one of the smartest and most astute posters on here
*winky*
That’s the equivalent of Radio Sad, yerll quite literally be mumbling around midnight in A Lambertastique sort of way mate.Batshuayi is a very similar player to tammy from what i have seen. He is strong big and can score. Think that might be one of the reasons chelsea would let him go.
Get him on loan with option to buy in summer. He did very well at palace last year.
Do we really want to sign a player with a surname that difficult to spell correctly? Some of our fans had enough trouble with Kozak.
Kozak? People couldn't get Ciaran Clarke right
So ably demonstrated.
Insert "that's the joke" meme.
*Realises failure to insert winky casts doubt on intention of post.*
You used to be one of the smartest and most astute posters on here
*winky*
Yeah, these days I'm past it and playing in the lower leagues. I even posted in the Timewasters section t'other day.
Don't want to pee on anyone's chips, but from what I've read from Chelsea fans he offers very little outside of the box, gets caught offside a lot. He is a good finisher though, so if we create chances for him it could work out.
Don't want to pee on anyone's chips, but from what I've read from Chelsea fans he offers very little outside of the box, gets caught offside a lot. He is a good finisher though, so if we create chances for him it could work out.
Don't want to pee on anyone's chips, but from what I've read from Chelsea fans he offers very little outside of the box, gets caught offside a lot. He is a good finisher though, so if we create chances for him it could work out.
Don't want to pee on anyone's chips, but from what I've read from Chelsea fans he offers very little outside of the box, gets caught offside a lot. He is a good finisher though, so if we create chances for him it could work out.
They didn't rate Tammy very highly at one point. Not just the fans, the club also. We'd have got him if they weren't forced to keep him and play him. Like anything let's see what happens if he comes here, but he's got talent and ability. It's up to us then to get it out of him.
I'm not saying he's awful, just wondering if he's suited to our way of playing. We may be better with Giroud for half a season.Why not both?
I'm not saying he's awful, just wondering if he's suited to our way of playing. We may be better with Giroud for half a season.Happy with Giroud for the first half of the season.
Batshuayi is a very similar player to tammy from what i have seen. He is strong big and can score. Think that might be one of the reasons chelsea would let him go.
Get him on loan with option to buy in summer. He did very well at palace last year.
Do we really want to sign a player with a surname that difficult to spell correctly? Some of our fans had enough trouble with Kozak.
Kozak? People couldn't get Ciaran Clarke right
I'm not saying he's awful, just wondering if he's suited to our way of playing. We may be better with Giroud for half a season.Why not both?
With Wes being out for the season we need someone in asap and up to speed. Add in another backup striker, get rid of Kodjia and get a creative midfielder in as well. When is Davis back fit?
Amazed Bowen didn't move in the summer and much as i hope we entice him here, i just can't see Hull letting him go whilst they have a chance of he play offs. I suppose if their form goes in the next few weeks and they find themselves adrift at theend of the window they might be tempted but even then, it's going to take a sizable bid imo. Another i really like the look of is Eze at QPR but I can see him going to someone bigger than us.
I really rate him, think his build up play at Palace was one of his better attributes. He had a really positive impact and linked up well with their best players.
I'm sure he'll love playing with Jack
We need two strikers, not just the one.and a defensive midfielder with some experience in the Premier league
We need two strikers, not just the one.
I have always rated Giroud, I think he is a top,top quality striker.
I wonder if he would give up the bright lights of London though. For no obvious reason, I suspect he is might be tied to that place.
just the type of forward Villa love to signI have always rated Giroud, I think he is a top,top quality striker.
I wonder if he would give up the bright lights of London though. For no obvious reason, I suspect he is might be tied to that place.
Doesn’t score enough for me.
I have always rated Giroud, I think he is a top,top quality striker.
I wonder if he would give up the bright lights of London though. For no obvious reason, I suspect he is might be tied to that place.
Doesn’t score enough for me.
I can't see Chelsea loaning us both of them, if that's what you meant.
If bats isnt really interested id move on. Mitrovic is my preferred option. Scores and proven at pl level. Fulham are not guranteed promotion either.
Id also look at joe allen at stoke for cover for mcginn.
We need a goalie now too. Maybe another attmept to get Etheridge?
We need a goalie now too. Maybe another attmept to get Etheridge?
Depends when Steer is due back. If by the end of January then we don't need another really. Steer, Nyland, Kalinic (not to mention the 'young' lad Sarkic as back-up) -- at some point you have to make do. Can't keep signing 2 new goalkeepers every single season, particularly when there are issues elsewhere in the squad and funds are tight.
I hope we sign two or three players this window.
Its a huge gamble sticking with nyland only. He looked hopeless a majority of last year. Also he had big injury so we need to be very careful. When is steer back?
Its a huge gamble sticking with nyland only. He looked hopeless a majority of last year. Also he had big injury so we need to be very careful. When is steer back?
Steer back end of Jan to start of Feb.
I doubt that Mitrovic would join us even if we were prepared to pay the asking price and Fulham were willing - he could have joined another PL club last season or gone abroad, but he chose to stick with Fulham because he loves it there.If bats isnt really interested id move on. Mitrovic is my preferred option. Scores and proven at pl level. Fulham are not guranteed promotion either.
Id also look at joe allen at stoke for cover for mcginn.
Mitrovic would be great, sure, but would surely cost us a fortune.
If we couldn't afford 20m for Maupay, there's no way we're blowing 25+ on Mitrovic.
What a mare. We’ve got a lot to do and not a lot of wiggle room (FFP) to do it. In a sellers window.After losing our first choice keeper and only viable centre forward the club should be pushing for a bit of leeway from the powers that be regarding ffp. God knows we have the financial clout just waiting to be unleashed.
Dumb question probably but what would be the convention around FFP and long term injuries? Is there any adjustment or write down of values in this situation?Not a dumb question at all, I was wondering the same. I suspect there's no loopholes for injuries, but would be interested to hear.
Dumb question probably but what would be the convention around FFP and long term injuries? Is there any adjustment or write down of values in this situation?Not a dumb question at all, I was wondering the same. I suspect there's no loopholes for injuries, but would be interested to hear.
I don't think we can go for a keeper. By all accounts the budget was very limited this window anyway and with gaping holes elsewhere in the squad I just don't think we have any option but to make do with Nyland & Steer. To be fair, Nyland looks well up for it and has done ok so far.
Dumb question probably but what would be the convention around FFP and long term injuries? Is there any adjustment or write down of values in this situation?Not a dumb question at all, I was wondering the same. I suspect there's no loopholes for injuries, but would be interested to hear.
It is fucking madness really. The biggest threat of financial calamity to the club is getting relegated, and the chances of this happening are significantly higher with three top players out long term, but no, you can't invest your own money to prevent this in case you break the rules supposedly in place to prevent your club facing a financial calamity.
Should we be looking at recalling some of our players out on loan to fill the squad out now? Hogan, O'Hare and RHM come to mind.
I don't think we can go for a keeper. By all accounts the budget was very limited this window anyway and with gaping holes elsewhere in the squad I just don't think we have any option but to make do with Nyland & Steer. To be fair, Nyland looks well up for it and has done ok so far.
Exactly. We just can't afford to.
Smith has said we're hoping to get stuff done before we play City. Fingers crossed.
Smith has said we're hoping to get stuff done before we play City. Fingers crossed.
Leicester or Manchester ?
C'mon Drummond, I expect better from you ;)
If we can move on Kodjia, Landsbury and Kalinic the limit of 25 should not be a problem.
RHM could also be out on loan as his future at B6 must be in doubt as he never makes the squad.
If we can move on Kodjia, Landsbury and Kalinic the limit of 25 should not be a problem.
RHM could also be out on loan as his future at B6 must be in doubt as he never makes the squad.
RHM already is on loan at Tranmere
Oops!
If players are out for the season, can you take them out of the squad?
Drinkwater back to Chelsea. better not be because he's coming to us
Genuine question as I've not extensively watched Bowen (though been impressed when I have):I'd say "yes" to that, Russ; and IMHO AEG would be a far better inside forward than wide man, so he could support our new striker in a 3-5-2 set-up..
Can he be a main/back up striker as well as an attacking wide player? In other words is it an option to sign Bowen and a recognised striker and then strengthen elsewhere?
Drinkwater back to Chelsea. better not be because he's coming to us
His contract at Burnley always ran out today. I'm thinking he wouldn't have been on their bench against us if he was a certainty to join us.
Batshuayi can go accoridng to chelsea number 2 jody morris. Lets get this done
Batshuayi can go accoridng to chelsea number 2 jody morris. Lets get this done
I reckon he'll go to Palace as makeweight part of a deal for Zaha.
Batshuayi can go accoridng to chelsea number 2 jody morris. Lets get this done
I reckon he'll go to Palace as makeweight part of a deal for Zaha.
Batshuayi can go accoridng to chelsea number 2 jody morris. Lets get this done
I reckon he'll go to Palace as makeweight part of a deal for Zaha.
Lampard says he's not interested and Hodgson says he's not for sale.
Batshuayi can go accoridng to chelsea number 2 jody morris. Lets get this done
I reckon he'll go to Palace as makeweight part of a deal for Zaha.
Lampard says he's not interested and Hodgson says he's not for sale.
Is he any good?Batshuayi can go accoridng to chelsea number 2 jody morris. Lets get this done
I reckon he'll go to Palace as makeweight part of a deal for Zaha.
Lampard says he's not interested and Hodgson says he's not for sale.
Monday then?
Absolutely yes to Batshuayi
Drinkwater back to Chelsea. better not be because he's coming to us
His contract at Burnley always ran out today. I'm thinking he wouldn't have been on their bench against us if he was a certainty to join us.
thanks - you've calmed my fears!
Brentford have 2 strikers lined up so Watkins is on the way somewhere
We now need two quality strikers to stay.
BBC gossip says man-ure have targeted Jack for January!
Also that we're targeting Batshuayi & Giroud from Chelski and considering Butland from Stoke.
Anyone?
We definitely do not need Butland.
Do we?!
Yes please to Butland. Why not?
Yes please to Butland. Why not?
Because his form has been poor for the last couple of seasons. Stoke seem to be dumping high earners from their squad so the fee could be reasonable enough. My preference is to get Steer back in as soon as he is fit. Has played successfully with likes of Mings and Hause already . New keeper would have to develop that understanding mid season which would be far from ideal.
We now need two quality strikers to stay.
Bowen and Watkins would be ideal, and if they can get Batshuayi as well it would be a fantastic window
Every time I watch Stoke (granted thats not many) Butland makes a cock up, Stoke have destroyed him and would want a ridiculous amount of money for him.
What about a front two of Batshuayi and Benteke ??We now need two quality strikers to stay.
Bowen and Watkins would be ideal, and if they can get Batshuayi as well it would be a fantastic window
What about a front two of Batshuayi and Benteke ??We now need two quality strikers to stay.
Bowen and Watkins would be ideal, and if they can get Batshuayi as well it would be a fantastic window
Roofe from anderlecht for 7 million might have legs. Scored 6 in 13 this season for them I think and only 26
Butland is broken. Much like Scott Carson got broken, and Joe Hart is broken.
Bowen and Watkins would be great but cost a fortune. I wish we could go get 2 or 3 young prospects like Brentford pick up though, before having to spunk 20 million on them.
Roofe from anderlecht for 7 million might have legs. Scored 6 in 13 this season for them I think and only 26
Not for me, was hit and miss in the championship.
We definitely do not need Butland.
Do we?!
Think Nyland will be given the next 3-4 games and we'll then make a decision by end of January (of course Steer might be close to returning in any case).Agreed - Nyland, TBF, has looked quite commanding in his few cameos this season.
Good range of opponents to test him out. Man. City where we'll need him to be tipping their 6-7 shots on target round the post (I dread to think of % of shots on target he let in last season) and then Brighton and Watford where he'll have less to do but concentration will be needed.
Benteke Loan to buy - back home - motivated for push for euro squad. No brainier for me. He would suit our system and would be perfect for another striker alongside also (if we go 2 up top)Did they play for CP together last season? - how did that work out (I cannot remember!)?
Benteke and Bat upfront together would be superb
Think Nyland will be given the next 3-4 games and we'll then make a decision by end of January (of course Steer might be close to returning in any case).Agreed - Nyland, TBF, has looked quite commanding in his few cameos this season.
Good range of opponents to test him out. Man. City where we'll need him to be tipping their 6-7 shots on target round the post (I dread to think of % of shots on target he let in last season) and then Brighton and Watford where he'll have less to do but concentration will be needed.
Never thought I'd say that!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50986483
Not sure if this has been shared elsewhere, and I suppose it doesn’t tell us anything we don’t already know. I guess it just emphasises how much we’ve been fucked over by bad luck yet again.
And aren’t we as fans partly to blame here insisting on the tradition of a packed Christmas and New Year fixture list and moaning like buggery if anyone considers changing it?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50986483
Not sure if this has been shared elsewhere, and I suppose it doesn’t tell us anything we don’t already know. I guess it just emphasises how much we’ve been fucked over by bad luck yet again.
Klopp makes me laugh. Liverpool piss off mid season, for a meaningless show pony tournament albeit at the behest of the FIFA cash machine. And, that's on top of travelling to far flung foreign shores, for pre season tournaments, all in the name of 'ker ching'.
Yes, we've been unlucky with injuries but what's that got to do when the fixtures are played? Injuries like can occur at any time of the season. Also, Christmas footy has been around forever.
Big clubs like Liverpool just want more opportunity to make money. That means more Champions League and World tournaments, at the expense of the domestic cup competitions and they probably wouldn't mind a reduction of teams in the Premier league either.
Truth to Joe Hart links. Short term loan
Nyland is head and shoulders better than Joe Hart.
Chester and/or Kodjia in a swap for Bowen? Throw Lansbury in too, just to carry the bags!
Chester and/or Kodjia in a swap for Bowen? Throw Lansbury in too, just to carry the bags!
How quickly people forget Chester's quality and everything he did for us. I've no desire to see him leave, not sure why so many do.
Chester and/or Kodjia in a swap for Bowen? Throw Lansbury in too, just to carry the bags!
How quickly people forget Chester's quality and everything he did for us. I've no desire to see him leave, not sure why so many do.
Aston Villa are being offered the chance to sign Emmanuel Adebayor as they look for a solution to their striker crisis.
Daily Mirror
file under bollocks
Oh for a quality midfielder that can supplant Nakamba and Hourihane from the team to the bench and Lansbury and Jota to anywhere away from the first team squad.
Oh for a quality midfielder that can supplant Nakamba and Hourihane from the team to the bench and Lansbury and Jota to anywhere away from the first team squad.
This with bells on. Two very poor players, and two atrocious ones.
Alan Nixon is saying that Batshuayi is going to Palace when Chelsea secure a replacement. However it seems that Palace are signing Tosun on loan...
Assume that means Benteke is going, but even still Ayew has been in good form so Tosun, Batshuayi and Ayew seems a lot for Palace...
Oh for a quality midfielder that can supplant Nakamba and Hourihane from the team to the bench and Lansbury and Jota to anywhere away from the first team squad.
Oh for a quality midfielder that can supplant Nakamba and Hourihane from the team to the bench and Lansbury and Jota to anywhere away from the first team squad.
Whilst Jota is lightweight and not speedy. He does appear to enjoy setting up goals. Which I believe is an attractive attribute for a midfielder.
Oh for a quality midfielder that can supplant Nakamba and Hourihane from the team to the bench and Lansbury and Jota to anywhere away from the first team squad.
Whilst Jota is lightweight and not speedy. He does appear to enjoy setting up goals. Which I believe is an attractive attribute for a midfielder.
I like him, he can spot a pass but not at right midfield, he’s not strong or quick enough. This level is probably a bit out of his depth.Oh for a quality midfielder that can supplant Nakamba and Hourihane from the team to the bench and Lansbury and Jota to anywhere away from the first team squad.
Whilst Jota is lightweight and not speedy. He does appear to enjoy setting up goals. Which I believe is an attractive attribute for a midfielder.
He might like it, he’s just not good enough to do it very often.
Alan Nixon is saying that Batshuayi is going to Palace when Chelsea secure a replacement. However it seems that Palace are signing Tosun on loan...
Assume that means Benteke is going, but even still Ayew has been in good form so Tosun, Batshuayi and Ayew seems a lot for Palace...
Darlow coming back Linked (on our books as a kid)Out of contract in the summer and we’ve been linked with him before (albeit under Bruce)
Judging from Dean responses to questions it looks like we may be in for a GK
Given that we have needed at least one more striker even before the season started, I expected to have one lined up already.
Given that we have needed at least one more striker even before the season started, I expected to have one lined up already.
You would think so, its pretty obvious for most managers that any potential target missed in the previous transfer window would good to go at the very start of the next one,
Bobby Pires?
Oliver Giroud remains on the radar.I must admit I have never thought of Giroud as a model pro. He's always seemed a bit of a narcissist playboy type to me.
I'm sceptical that he'd actually want to come but that's the sort of signing we need to start improving the mentality of the dressing room.
Aston Villa are being offered the chance to sign Emmanuel Adebayor as they look for a solution to their striker crisis.
Daily Mirror
file under bollocks
Oliver Giroud remains on the radar.I must admit I have never thought of Giroud as a model pro. He's always seemed a bit of a narcissist playboy type to me.
I'm sceptical that he'd actually want to come but that's the sort of signing we need to start improving the mentality of the dressing room.
Giroud scores goals. Isn't that what we're crying out for?I think we're crying out for someone who scores more frequently than he does. 9 in 61 since 2017/18.
Before a ball was kicked at France 98, Aimé Jacquet the manager famously told him "Beef up your game Robert!", during a team meeting (with a fly-on-the-wall documentary team present). Pires wasn't even a sub for the first game against South Africa. He subsequently came on for Henry when France were 3-0 up against Saudi Arabia, and started against Denmark for the final group game but was replaced by Henry on 71 minutes. He was a sub for the Round of 16 against Paraguay but wasn't even on the team sheet for the quarter, the semi and the final. Similarly, he got one start and a few sub appearances at Euro 2000 (notably coming on for Lizarazu after 86' in the final).Bobby Pires?
Good shout, wasn't sure if he was actually called up for France 98 but was in the squad after checking.
Ultimately was miles past his best when he signed for us. If people think Jota is slow then watching Pires shuffling around VP was very sad considering how good he was at Arsenal.
Oliver Giroud remains on the radar.I must admit I have never thought of Giroud as a model pro. He's always seemed a bit of a narcissist playboy type to me.
I'm sceptical that he'd actually want to come but that's the sort of signing we need to start improving the mentality of the dressing room.
Completely agree, and a bit of an arsehole to boot.
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Aston Villa considering Britt Assombalonga and Darren Randolph as January signings - would take good money, but Boro would surely listen...
No but where are the comments from ex-managers/teammates saying he's a dick and a poser?
Oliver Giroud remains on the radar.I must admit I have never thought of Giroud as a model pro. He's always seemed a bit of a narcissist playboy type to me.
I'm sceptical that he'd actually want to come but that's the sort of signing we need to start improving the mentality of the dressing room.
Completely agree, and a bit of an arsehole to boot.
"When asked if Chelsea could understand Giroud seeking a Stamford Bridge exit, Morris said: 'Well, he still plays for Chelsea.
'It's got to be for the benefit of the club. We can't just let people walk out the door if that means we're left short somewhere.
'Yes, you have to look at the individual as well, but I've got to say Giroud's been nothing but a class act and a top professional since he's been here. So I don't envisage any issues from him on that front.'"
No but where are the comments from ex-managers/teammates saying he's a dick and a poser?Oliver Giroud remains on the radar.I must admit I have never thought of Giroud as a model pro. He's always seemed a bit of a narcissist playboy type to me.
I'm sceptical that he'd actually want to come but that's the sort of signing we need to start improving the mentality of the dressing room.
Completely agree, and a bit of an arsehole to boot.
"When asked if Chelsea could understand Giroud seeking a Stamford Bridge exit, Morris said: 'Well, he still plays for Chelsea.
'It's got to be for the benefit of the club. We can't just let people walk out the door if that means we're left short somewhere.
'Yes, you have to look at the individual as well, but I've got to say Giroud's been nothing but a class act and a top professional since he's been here. So I don't envisage any issues from him on that front.'"
It's got nothing to do with his professional attitude in training or whatever, and everything to do with the fact that he once kicked a defender in the eye socket, fracturing his cheekbone and causing temporary blindness. It put him out of the remainder of the World Cup and required surgery, and Giroud just walked away like it was nothing at all.
He's all elbows up front too. Each to their own but I don't want him anywhere near a Villa XI personally.
No but where are the comments from ex-managers/teammates saying he's a dick and a poser?Oliver Giroud remains on the radar.I must admit I have never thought of Giroud as a model pro. He's always seemed a bit of a narcissist playboy type to me.
I'm sceptical that he'd actually want to come but that's the sort of signing we need to start improving the mentality of the dressing room.
Completely agree, and a bit of an arsehole to boot.
"When asked if Chelsea could understand Giroud seeking a Stamford Bridge exit, Morris said: 'Well, he still plays for Chelsea.
'It's got to be for the benefit of the club. We can't just let people walk out the door if that means we're left short somewhere.
'Yes, you have to look at the individual as well, but I've got to say Giroud's been nothing but a class act and a top professional since he's been here. So I don't envisage any issues from him on that front.'"
It's got nothing to do with his professional attitude in training or whatever, and everything to do with the fact that he once kicked a defender in the eye socket, fracturing his cheekbone and causing temporary blindness. It put him out of the remainder of the World Cup and required surgery, and Giroud just walked away like it was nothing at all.
He's all elbows up front too. Each to their own but I don't want him anywhere near a Villa XI personally.
If you think that's what we need, that's your view. Pretty ridiculous, but it's a view nonetheless.
If you think that's what we need, that's your view. Pretty ridiculous, but it's a view nonetheless.
That's gracious of you, given that I haven't said anything about Giroud.
I think i'd rather recall Hogan than spend money on Assombalonga.
I think i'd rather recall Hogan than spend money on Assombalonga.
Agree. Would be very poor.
No but where are the comments from ex-managers/teammates saying he's a dick and a poser?Oliver Giroud remains on the radar.I must admit I have never thought of Giroud as a model pro. He's always seemed a bit of a narcissist playboy type to me.
I'm sceptical that he'd actually want to come but that's the sort of signing we need to start improving the mentality of the dressing room.
Completely agree, and a bit of an arsehole to boot.
"When asked if Chelsea could understand Giroud seeking a Stamford Bridge exit, Morris said: 'Well, he still plays for Chelsea.
'It's got to be for the benefit of the club. We can't just let people walk out the door if that means we're left short somewhere.
'Yes, you have to look at the individual as well, but I've got to say Giroud's been nothing but a class act and a top professional since he's been here. So I don't envisage any issues from him on that front.'"
It's got nothing to do with his professional attitude in training or whatever, and everything to do with the fact that he once kicked a defender in the eye socket, fracturing his cheekbone and causing temporary blindness. It put him out of the remainder of the World Cup and required surgery, and Giroud just walked away like it was nothing at all.
He's all elbows up front too. Each to their own but I don't want him anywhere near a Villa XI personally.
Didn't Tyrone Mings once stamp on someone's head? Reading player?
Joe Lolley has been shit for Forest this season.
That's where it's easy to be caught out, Lolley was spectacular last season and struggles to make their team this year we have bought a few one season wonders over the past few years.
Glenn Murray mention in Guardian
That's where it's easy to be caught out, Lolley was spectacular last season and struggles to make their team this year we have bought a few one season wonders over the past few years.
Sign him and then hypnotise him.
You are playing the blues, you are playing the blues
Glenn Murray mention in Guardian
Glenn Murray mention in Guardian
36 years old. Jesus Christ.
*older than Jesus Christ in fact.
Glenn Murray mention in Guardian
36 years old. Jesus Christ.
*older than Jesus Christ in fact.
Jesus Christ's age depends upon whether you take into account his dramatic comeback, of course. And whether you believe he is God and therefore is ageless.
In my eyes we should gamble on a player from abroad on a permanent basis and loan the proven prem player Giroud/benteke.
Worst case we sign someone for 20 mill from abroad he scores 5 or 6 goals and has some resale value. If we gamble on an expensive uk based player and he flops we wont be able to shift him ala Hogan
In my eyes we should gamble on a player from abroad on a permanent basis and loan the proven prem player Giroud/benteke.
Worst case we sign someone for 20 mill from abroad he scores 5 or 6 goals and has some resale value. If we gamble on an expensive uk based player and he flops we wont be able to shift him ala Hogan
Totally agree
There's some lesser clubs in the Dutch & French leagues with very good players knocking in plenty of goals
10-12m, sooner take a risk on two of those on sensible wages than those that are being linked
There's some real talent in the Eredivise and only Ajax pay big wages.
For those turning their nose up at Giroud, who on earth are you hoping / expecting us to sign given that it looks like Batshuayi is out of the picture?
Personally I'd be delighted with Giroud, think he'd fit into the system well and would be amazed if he didn't contribute more than Wesley was.
Glenn Murray mention in Guardian
36 years old. Jesus Christ.
*older than Jesus Christ in fact.
Jesus Christ's age depends upon whether you take into account his dramatic comeback, of course. And whether you believe he is God and therefore is ageless.
Glenn Murray must be fucking ancient then
Glenn Murray mention in Guardian
36 years old. Jesus Christ.
*older than Jesus Christ in fact.
Jesus Christ's age depends upon whether you take into account his dramatic comeback, of course. And whether you believe he is God and therefore is ageless.
Glenn Murray must be fucking ancient then
JC was really good on the crosses ;D
Quite right Chris, we took a gamble this summer with Big Wes. He may come good, who knows. In most eyes he won't and many do not want to wait for it it happen so now surely we need a striker ready and accustomed to this league.In my eyes we should gamble on a player from abroad on a permanent basis and loan the proven prem player Giroud/benteke.
Worst case we sign someone for 20 mill from abroad he scores 5 or 6 goals and has some resale value. If we gamble on an expensive uk based player and he flops we wont be able to shift him ala Hogan
Totally agree
There's some lesser clubs in the Dutch & French leagues with very good players knocking in plenty of goals
10-12m, sooner take a risk on two of those on sensible wages than those that are being linked
There's some real talent in the Eredivise and only Ajax pay big wages.
Problem is we need one ready to go from day 1 not take a couple of months to settle into English football.
Giroud would be an excellent signing, and is better than Wesley in every aspect of the game. He has at least two good years left in him and as a loan with a view to sign is a no brainer. We can then find younger cheaper competition from abroad for Wesley who can work his back from 3rd choice (about his current standard).
Giroud's link up play is one of the best around when it comes to strikers. He might not come in and score 15 but I think the rest of the attackers would benefit.
Giroud's link up play is one of the best around when it comes to strikers. He might not come in and score 15 but I think the rest of the attackers would benefit.
I was with you all the way until 'the rest of the attackers'. How did we get to start a season with no proven attackers is beyond me.
Giroud's link up play is one of the best around when it comes to strikers. He might not come in and score 15 but I think the rest of the attackers would benefit.
I was with you all the way until 'the rest of the attackers'. How did we get to start a season with no proven attackers is beyond me.
Giroud's link up play is one of the best around when it comes to strikers. He might not come in and score 15 but I think the rest of the attackers would benefit.
I was with you all the way until 'the rest of the attackers'. How did we get to start a season with no proven attackers is beyond me.
Yes I did wonder who we were bringing into play ???
Giroud would be an excellent signing, and is better than Wesley in every aspect of the game. He has at least two good years left in him and as a loan with a view to sign is a no brainer. We can then find younger cheaper competition from abroad for Wesley who can work his back from 3rd choice (about his current standard).
Giroud's link up play is one of the best around when it comes to strikers. He might not come in and score 15 but I think the rest of the attackers would benefit.
I was with you all the way until 'the rest of the attackers'. How did we get to start a season with no proven attackers is beyond me.
Yes I did wonder who we were bringing into play ???
Well our midfield and wide players have 17 in 21 despite playing behind someone that most of you have written off as shit so surely someone who's even average will help create more (and better) chances for them.
You say that, but he was crucified at Galilee. Ghost of his former self after that performanceGlenn Murray mention in Guardian
36 years old. Jesus Christ.
*older than Jesus Christ in fact.
Jesus Christ's age depends upon whether you take into account his dramatic comeback, of course. And whether you believe he is God and therefore is ageless.
Glenn Murray must be fucking ancient then
JC was really good on the crosses ;D
And nailed on to score.
You say that, but he was crucified at Galilee. Ghost of his former self after that performanceGlenn Murray mention in Guardian
36 years old. Jesus Christ.
*older than Jesus Christ in fact.
Jesus Christ's age depends upon whether you take into account his dramatic comeback, of course. And whether you believe he is God and therefore is ageless.
Glenn Murray must be fucking ancient then
JC was really good on the crosses ;D
And nailed on to score.
Of the names in the frame I'd say Batshuayi > Giroud > bottom of the barrel > Assombalonga > a hole under the barrel > MurrayTo be honest so long as we get someone decent (like Giroud) I'd take Murray as well to give us options. He's getting on but is a handful and knows where the goal is.
Inter now favourites for Giroud and the player also prefers Milan to another English club according to Matt Law.ah balls.
I doubt Glenn Murray is any worse or slower than he was last year. The main reason he's not in the Brighton team anymore is the change of manager. Hughton had them playing with ten behind the ball and hoofing it to Murray, Potter doesn't play that way.
Underwhelming though, no denying that.
The Glen Murray link is absolutely classic Villa, well the Villa i thought we'd finally moved on from. Stinks like Grant Holt all over again.
Not to mention we can't cross a ball so he's even less suited.
I thought our owners were loaded wiv dosh?
Ah. Makes sense.I thought our owners were loaded wiv dosh?
Not allowed to spend it though. It's locked up in a trust fund until we're 17(th).
So at the moment Kodja is the one and only centre forward we have available, I thought we were now being run by a professional outfit.
State of Noel Whelan on the Transfer Show on Sky. He looks like he dug up his dead dad to borrow the suit they buried him in.
State of Noel Whelan on the Transfer Show on Sky. He looks like he dug up his dead dad to borrow the suit they buried him in.
Well when you come straight from a funeral
Fuck me. Glen Murray.
Fuck me. Glen Murray.
Fuck me. Glen Murray.
So if I have this right. Dean Smith, manager of Aston Villa hovering above the relegation zone reputedly sat down with Pitarch an the owners and drafted a list that has Brett Assombalonga and Glenn Murray. I can only assume Noel Whelan is also on that list along with Tony Cottee, Chris Sutton and Carlton Cole.
State of Noel Whelan on the Transfer Show on Sky. He looks like he dug up his dead dad to borrow the suit they buried him in.
Well when you come straight from a funeral
Fuck me. Glen Murray.I'd rather have Arthur Murray !
( waltzing through defences ).
You might have to buy him flowers first.
I thought our owners were loaded wiv dosh?
Apologies if this one has been thrashed out already.
As everybody is on different deals, I can’t see a problem with a short term financial turbocharge, if that’s what an individual player can give us on the pitch.
If it's Glenn Muray plus another then such a signing would make sense. There's no point making any judgements, especially on rumours, until the window closes.
Hamdallah doing the rounds on Twitter with a fee agreed of 7m. Goal a game in Saudi league which I assume is pants...29 though..
Hamdallah doing the rounds on Twitter with a fee agreed of 7m. Goal a game in Saudi league which I assume is pants...29 though..
It's worth bearing in mind that we are the 9th highest scorers but defensively we are the third worst in the division.With Wesley's injury another striker is needed but a change to 3 central defenders suits our present squad as it should make us less open .
Even with choosing 2 strikers from Kodj,AEG and Trez ,I think we have enough goals in the team.It's grinding out the 1-0s or low scoring draws that has been the problem.
Manchester United signed a geriatric Andy Goram because they were fucked with injuries. They won the league that year.Our geriatric signing would probably have to play more than two games.
Manchester United signed a geriatric Andy Goram because they were fucked with injuries. They won the league that year.Our geriatric signing would probably have to play more than two games.
The idea of Glenn Murray starting up front for us in a relegation battle does crush the spirit a bit. Let's hope it doesn't come to pass. I'm sure it won't.Manchester United signed a geriatric Andy Goram because they were fucked with injuries. They won the league that year.Our geriatric signing would probably have to play more than two games.
Probably. But if they could fill in for a couple of games until we sign someone better then I don't really see why there's any need for people to be so morose.
I would take Josef Martinez from Atlanta Utd. The level in the MLS has gone up and he's got pace and scored a load of goals and is a current international.Hamdallah doing the rounds on Twitter with a fee agreed of 7m. Goal a game in Saudi league which I assume is pants...29 though..
His scoring record over the last few years has been great! I would take him as a punt
I definitely don’t think Kodjia, AEG and Trez are enough.I didn't mean to give the impression that we should rely solely on those 3 ,another option is required but our biggest weakness has been how open we have been.
What’s Omar Cummings doing these days?
I would take Josef Martinez from Atlanta Utd. The level in the MLS has gone up and he's got pace and scored a load of goals and is a current international.Hamdallah doing the rounds on Twitter with a fee agreed of 7m. Goal a game in Saudi league which I assume is pants...29 though..
His scoring record over the last few years has been great! I would take him as a punt
People get a bit sniffy about the MLS, but it's better than the Saudi league.
Yes, and pace is something we are definitely lackingI would take Josef Martinez from Atlanta Utd. The level in the MLS has gone up and he's got pace and scored a load of goals and is a current international.Hamdallah doing the rounds on Twitter with a fee agreed of 7m. Goal a game in Saudi league which I assume is pants...29 though..
His scoring record over the last few years has been great! I would take him as a punt
People get a bit sniffy about the MLS, but it's better than the Saudi league.
I think I suggested martinez in the summer. A bit small in stature but pace to burn!
Glen Murray would be a contender for worst ever signing, and most disappointing signing. Would chalk it off as bollocks but this is Villa so it is possible.
I was kind of hoping for something more positive by now, to be honest.
I keep being told that the owners are wanting big names here, I’m not sure that gadges from the Saudi, US Leagues and Brighton’s stiffs are going to cut it.
I don't see why Brighton would let Murray go to another team who they are competing with to stay up when the transfer fee for him would be relative peanuts. Especially given the financial difference of staying up and going down.Unless they know his legs have gone and it amounts to a hospital pass.
In the highly unlikely event that a player not already linked with us through any media outlet or this thread signs for us tomorrow would they be eligible to play against Leicester on Wednesday?
I think we have to accept that clubs are not going to let players go just because we want them. There's been stories in the press about Chelsea not letting any of their strikers go until they have replacements in and I don't blame them ...particularly true in the January window; hence the scramble at the end of the month. It's why I believe we'll bring in a relative unknown, either from abroad or the lower divisions. Then, we might get another, more experienced striker in toward the end of the month if available.
I think we have to accept that clubs are not going to let players go just because we want them. There's been stories in the press about Chelsea not letting any of their strikers go until they have replacements in and I don't blame them ...particularly true in the January window; hence the scramble at the end of the month. It's why I believe we'll bring in a relative unknown, either from abroad or the lower divisions. Then, we might get another, more experienced striker in toward the end of the month if available.
For me, the Kodjia 'experiment' is done. Wednesday, I'd play AEG through the middle and pack the midfield in front of a back 3.
We would of had 2-3 more points without the clowns at Stockley Park & Mr Kevin Friend.I keep being told that the owners are wanting big names here, I’m not sure that gadges from the Saudi, US Leagues and Brighton’s stiffs are going to cut it.
Teams in a relegation scrap aren't attractive I guess. If only we got a second striker in the summer - we would probably have 2-3 extra points and be that bit more tempting.
He scored against us home and away when we played them in Division Two.
I'd still be massively underwhelmed.
I’d like to see the loan of a youngster. They’d be hungry to prove themselves and we might be able to punch above our weight that way.
We don't have time to be too patient. The Brighton, Watford and Bournemouth games could make or break our season. I'd much rather we had a striker, at least, ready to go. Was hoping for someone in for Man City but failure to get a forward in before Brighton, at the very latest, would he negligent.
If clubs won't sell, move on to those that will. Half of Europe is on a midseason break and will happily discuss shifting players for the right fee. It's not like we can only sign players from West London.
In other words: get on with it. We are already five months late signing a striker.
Gregg Evans - Villa close to signing Drinkwater.I’ll drink to that.
A gamble given his recent history. But could work out well.Gregg Evans - Villa close to signing Drinkwater.I’ll drink to that.
According to various sources Chelsea will make us pay his full £110,000 a week wages.
Great work, Villa. Jermaine Jenas with a drink problem.
As others have said we are low on numbers, but if Burnley couldn't get a tune out of him, not sure why we think we can, especially as he's hardly played in 2 years.
As others have said we are low on numbers, but if Burnley couldn't get a tune out of him, not sure why we think we can, especially as he's hardly played in 2 years.
We've got a pivotal 4-5 months ahead. Survive & we'll prosper, fail & it's back to square one.I agree, numbers and experience - not at all excited but we need people in.
We desperately need premier league experience alongside the raw talent we have.
Short-term fixes for a short-term problem.
As others have said we are low on numbers, but if Burnley couldn't get a tune out of him, not sure why we think we can, especially as he's hardly played in 2 years.
As others have said we are low on numbers, but if Burnley couldn't get a tune out of him, not sure why we think we can, especially as he's hardly played in 2 years.He was injured for muh of his time at Burnley.
As others have said we are low on numbers, but if Burnley couldn't get a tune out of him, not sure why we think we can, especially as he's hardly played in 2 years.
This is exactly my worry. I don't care what he does off the pitch in his own time but if he couldn't break into a very poor Burnley side (who are on a terrible run) then I have concerns that he'll improve ours.
Does this mean we can't also take Giroud?
"Villa are not paying Drinkwater’s full £110,000-a-week Chelsea wages after the Blues dropped their initial demands to get a deal done for the player they signed for £35 million in 2017.If we can get Benteke for £10M surely that's worth a punt? How long is he out for?
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That has forced Villa to start looking at options abroad, with Krzysztof Piatek, who has fallen down the AC Milan pecking order, and Gregoire Defrel, who the Midlands club considered in the summer and has been made available by Sassuolo, two potential options.
Crystal Palace have told Villa they are only interested in selling Christian Benteke at this stage of January, although that may change if Palace can sign a striker."
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/01/07/aston-villa-sign-danny-drinkwater-loan-rest-season/
Seems a gamble to use up one of our loans up on him when we've no idea if he will be able to find his previous form. But it's last chance saloon for him and IF he does step up he could be very useful.
Ha, that does seem worryingly likely.Seems a gamble to use up one of our loans up on him when we've no idea if he will be able to find his previous form. But it's last chance saloon for him and IF he does step up he could be very useful.
You can guarantee that at least one of Batshuyahi or Giroud goes to one of our relegation rivals, too, and we spend the rest of the season wondering why we wasted a loan, and £100k per week, to watch Danny Drinkwater chatting to Henri Lansbury on the bench while they score loads of goals.
So we must be getting other strikers in Krzysztof Piątek linked.He's also linked with Newcastle. That would free up Gayle however.......runs for cover.
So we must be getting other strikers in Krzysztof Piątek linked.He's also linked with Newcastle. That would free up Gayle however.......runs for cover.
Also means Mike Ashley is involved - balls in our court! He'd be a good signing.So we must be getting other strikers in Krzysztof Piątek linked.He's also linked with Newcastle. That would free up Gayle however.......runs for cover.
Also means Mike Ashley is involved - balls in our court! He'd be a good signing.So we must be getting other strikers in Krzysztof Piątek linked.He's also linked with Newcastle. That would free up Gayle however.......runs for cover.
According to various sources Chelsea will make us pay his full £110,000 a week wages.
Great work, Villa. Jermaine Jenas with a drink problem.
Seems a gamble to use up one of our loans up on him when we've no idea if he will be able to find his previous form. But it's last chance saloon for him and IF he does step up he could be very useful.
You can guarantee that at least one of Batshuyahi or Giroud goes to one of our relegation rivals, too, and we spend the rest of the season wondering why we wasted a loan, and £100k per week, to watch Danny Drinkwater chatting to Henri Lansbury on the bench while they score loads of goals.
The problem with bats and giroud if they dont want to sign f**k them! Even if they do go to a rival and score shed loads the point is moot if they dont want to play for us. Also worth noting we only need to be better than 3 teams this season and even with injuries I think we can do that! Win the next 3 6 pointers and we can forget relegation all together I think.
Drinkwater god almighty, back to the bad old days.
The problem with bats and giroud if they dont want to sign f**k them! Even if they do go to a rival and score shed loads the point is moot if they dont want to play for us. Also worth noting we only need to be better than 3 teams this season and even with injuries I think we can do that! Win the next 3 6 pointers and we can forget relegation all together I think.
we said that ahead of the last set of 6 pointers :).
The problem with bats and giroud if they dont want to sign f**k them! Even if they do go to a rival and score shed loads the point is moot if they dont want to play for us. Also worth noting we only need to be better than 3 teams this season and even with injuries I think we can do that! Win the next 3 6 pointers and we can forget relegation all together I think.
we said that ahead of the last set of 6 pointers :).
Bent was a goalscorer at the top of his game when we signed him.
A signing of that nature would go along way to allay fears about the drop.
Benteke ver 2020 is a long way from the top of his game.
The more I think about the more Benteke feels like this decade's Bent. The move would be a good fit for both CB and the club. Make it so!I think you have been imbibing too much of that ether.
Bent was a goalscorer at the top of his game when we signed him.
A signing of that nature would go along way to allay fears about the drop.
Benteke ver 2020 is a long way from the top of his game.
The problem with bats and giroud if they dont want to sign f**k them! Even if they do go to a rival and score shed loads the point is moot if they dont want to play for us. Also worth noting we only need to be better than 3 teams this season and even with injuries I think we can do that! Win the next 3 6 pointers and we can forget relegation all together I think.
we said that ahead of the last set of 6 pointers :).
Not disputing how god awful we were over christmas! But Watford at villa park is not Watford away! Villa are notoriously shit in London and we all know this. I expect to win this game at home.
Brighton will be a tough game but if dean sticks to 541 /353 we can beat them.
Bournemouth are in real trouble with injuries and are looking in free fall at the moment. I would be very surprised if we cant at least get a point out of this.
I hope this ages well so remind me at the end of the month lol
https://www.lesiteinfo.com/sport/abderrazak-hamdallah-vers-la-premier-league-photo/
What do we know about him?? Anybody? Anything?? Or have I missed the point of this article and he actually means there is no way that he wants to come to Aston Villa?
Benteke C.In his first season at Palace he did score 15 but the point remains. He had a bad knee injury in 2018 which he played through but wasn't fit which resulted in an operation keeping him out for about 4 months. He's got a muscle injury at the moment which he got at Newcastle - I think he's probably had his best days if I'm honest which is a real shame.
Signed a new contract extension last October until end of 2021 season.
In his last 61 Premier league games for Palace he has scored 4 goals !!
Yep that is just the sort of player we need in a crisis.....not!
Even if he was fit to play which is extremely doubtful given his track record.
https://www.lesiteinfo.com/sport/abderrazak-hamdallah-vers-la-premier-league-photo/
What do we know about him?? Anybody? Anything?? Or have I missed the point of this article and he actually means there is no way that he wants to come to Aston Villa?
https://www.lesiteinfo.com/sport/abderrazak-hamdallah-vers-la-premier-league-photo/
What do we know about him?? Anybody? Anything?? Or have I missed the point of this article and he actually means there is no way that he wants to come to Aston Villa?
That guy is full of shit.
https://www.lesiteinfo.com/sport/abderrazak-hamdallah-vers-la-premier-league-photo/
What do we know about him?? Anybody? Anything?? Or have I missed the point of this article and he actually means there is no way that he wants to come to Aston Villa?
That guy is full of shit.
Barca Louie Barry mentioned in Heil
Barca Louie Barry mentioned in Heil
Supposed to be very highly rated. Born in Aston but ended up in the Albion academies.
Barca Louie Barry mentioned in Heil
Supposed to be very highly rated. Born in Aston but ended up in the Albion academies.
https://www.lesiteinfo.com/sport/abderrazak-hamdallah-vers-la-premier-league-photo/
What do we know about him?? Anybody? Anything?? Or have I missed the point of this article and he actually means there is no way that he wants to come to Aston Villa?
Google translation...
The top scorer of 2019, all world championships combined, with a total of 57 goals, is neither Lewandowski nor Messi. He is indeed the goleador of the Saudi club Al Nassr FC, the Moroccan Abderrazak Hamdallah.
The former Moroccan international, many of whom regret his absence from the Atlas Lions, is about to land in the Premier League. He will wear the colors of Aston Villa Football Club, the English team based in Birmingham, from the next winter transfer window.
Indeed, on his official Twitter account, the players' agent for Aston Villa FC has confirmed that Hamdallah has received final agreement for his transfer from Saudi Al Nassr to the English club. John Harriot also clarified that the Moroccan player will receive a weekly salary of 100,000 pounds sterling;
Abderrazak Hamdallah is set to leave Saudi Arabia next week for England. Good luck, Hamdallah!
John Harriot twitter feed...
https://twitter.com/JHFootballAgent
Villa looking to sign the worlds top goalscorer. What could possibly go wrong?
There's a few short clips on his twitter. Nippy, quick feet.
(@LouieBarry6): https://twitter.com/LouieBarry6?s=09
Nothing about signing for us, as yet.
A source says (Barry move):
One source at Villa has described the move as "the biggest deal" the club will make this window, and a Premier League debut before the end of the season is a possibility.
God I hope its not our biggest deal
And we're gonna be paying him £100k per week .... really?https://www.lesiteinfo.com/sport/abderrazak-hamdallah-vers-la-premier-league-photo/
What do we know about him?? Anybody? Anything?? Or have I missed the point of this article and he actually means there is no way that he wants to come to Aston Villa?
Google translation...
The top scorer of 2019, all world championships combined, with a total of 57 goals, is neither Lewandowski nor Messi. He is indeed the goleador of the Saudi club Al Nassr FC, the Moroccan Abderrazak Hamdallah.
The former Moroccan international, many of whom regret his absence from the Atlas Lions, is about to land in the Premier League. He will wear the colors of Aston Villa Football Club, the English team based in Birmingham, from the next winter transfer window.
Indeed, on his official Twitter account, the players' agent for Aston Villa FC has confirmed that Hamdallah has received final agreement for his transfer from Saudi Al Nassr to the English club. John Harriot also clarified that the Moroccan player will receive a weekly salary of 100,000 pounds sterling;
Abderrazak Hamdallah is set to leave Saudi Arabia next week for England. Good luck, Hamdallah!
John Harriot twitter feed...
https://twitter.com/JHFootballAgent
Yep, would be great to get another top young prospect in.A source says (Barry move):
One source at Villa has described the move as "the biggest deal" the club will make this window, and a Premier League debut before the end of the season is a possibility.
God I hope its not our biggest deal
Long-term it could be....
And we're gonna be paying him £100k per week .... really?https://www.lesiteinfo.com/sport/abderrazak-hamdallah-vers-la-premier-league-photo/
What do we know about him?? Anybody? Anything?? Or have I missed the point of this article and he actually means there is no way that he wants to come to Aston Villa?
Google translation...
The top scorer of 2019, all world championships combined, with a total of 57 goals, is neither Lewandowski nor Messi. He is indeed the goleador of the Saudi club Al Nassr FC, the Moroccan Abderrazak Hamdallah.
The former Moroccan international, many of whom regret his absence from the Atlas Lions, is about to land in the Premier League. He will wear the colors of Aston Villa Football Club, the English team based in Birmingham, from the next winter transfer window.
Indeed, on his official Twitter account, the players' agent for Aston Villa FC has confirmed that Hamdallah has received final agreement for his transfer from Saudi Al Nassr to the English club. John Harriot also clarified that the Moroccan player will receive a weekly salary of 100,000 pounds sterling;
Abderrazak Hamdallah is set to leave Saudi Arabia next week for England. Good luck, Hamdallah!
John Harriot twitter feed...
https://twitter.com/JHFootballAgent
Where has the £3m fee come from?
There's a few short clips on his twitter. Nippy, quick feet.
(@LouieBarry6): https://twitter.com/LouieBarry6?s=09
Nothing about signing for us, as yet.
Who is this defrel striker sky sports are saying we having been looking to sign from a long while ago ?
W me are now linked with 500 players
but will still end up with Grant Holt
There's a few short clips on his twitter. Nippy, quick feet.
(@LouieBarry6): https://twitter.com/LouieBarry6?s=09
Nothing about signing for us, as yet.
Pretty sure my Nephew knows him and used to play on the same team as him, I’ll try and get the lowdown.
So, todays links are a player who scores loads in Saudi Arabia and a 16 year old. Hmm.
Who is this defrel striker sky sports are saying we having been looking to sign from a long while ago ?
A 1 in 5 French striker currently on loan from Roma to some other Serie A team. 28. Not excited by this one tbh.
So, todays links are a player who scores loads in Saudi Arabia and a 16 year old. Hmm.
Yep, just links.
Where has the £3m fee come from?
I think 1.5 mil Euros is closer to the truth as this is in most reports. But I dunno I did spot the 3 mil somewhere
I love how Smith bangs on about that "addressing our striker/forward options is priority" but his first signing is a washed-up midfielder who only looked good playing next to Kante years ago.
A lot of Italian journalists and Villa accounts on Twitter saying that we've bid €30m for Piatek and that Milan are considering the offer. Suso apparantly flew out and met with Milan officials today.
Piatek has scored 26 goals in 55 games in Italy for Genoa and Milan. Apparently Newcastle want him too.
We've also enquired about Pepe Reina, also at Milan, according to plenty of media sources on Twitter. What a double deal that would be. But this is the Villa and we'll probably end up with Joe Hart and Glenn Murray.
No idea who he is (well I have wiki'd him) £30m strikers do make you a bit fizzy in the crotch area.
I nearly crashed my car on the M58 on slow moving traffic when we signed Bent.
We've also enquired about Pepe Reina, also at Milan, according to plenty of media sources on Twitter. What a double deal that would be. But this is the Villa and we'll probably end up with Joe Hart and Glenn Murray.
Piatek? That one came out of the blue. An absolute finisher, loves a header, has a shit celebration and an even worse penalty style. Get it done!
Piatek? That one came out of the blue. An absolute finisher, loves a header, has a shit celebration and an even worse penalty style. Get it done!
Just looked online, and that celebration is truly rubbish. Hope we see it in action very soon, and frequently.
Piatek? That one came out of the blue. An absolute finisher, loves a header, has a shit celebration and an even worse penalty style. Get it done!
Piatek? That one came out of the blue. An absolute finisher, loves a header, has a shit celebration and an even worse penalty style. Get it done!
Just looked online, and that celebration is truly rubbish. Hope we see it in action very soon, and frequently.
More I read, more I think the agent is using Villa for interest. Flush out a top half side.
According to my son, most judge players by what they are like on FIFA or PES. 🤦♂️
I'd never heard of the bloke until yesterday so kudos to those that had. Is he any good?
Piatekof course they would deny it even if true. it would alert other clubs and you cannot discuss other clubs players
Been denied by Villa according to Sky...so cross him of the list.
Announce Giroud
Piatekof course they would deny it even if true. it would alert other clubs and you cannot discuss other clubs players
Been denied by Villa according to Sky...so cross him of the list.
Announce Giroud
Newcastle United in talks for Ademola Lookman loan deal .
Pacey wide forward , young and was always decent at Everton on prem . Hasn't been too much playing time since his move to Germany.
Villa are hindering there chances not taking the young players for loans as it's seen as developing other clubs young talent.
I get that but I also think let's not be too proud and bring in some short term loan types.
Drinkwater situation seems different and he's 29 but I remember Purslow basically saying no more loan signings
in the summer which was rather foolish, naive and outdated comments at the time. The loan market can be very effective and needs must.
Yes would like the Villa to swoop on lookman . Wonderful talent. I imagine Bruce and Newcastle see him as a saint maxim replacement.
Bit early to be on the cooking sherry Pete?Plus it's on the transfer thread - think a few slugs have been had.
Good source says we are making progress with Bowen. Be happy with that to supply the ammo.I've been hoping we would sign him for ages so would be pleased with this. I didn't think we could spend that srt of capital though.
Good source says we are making progress with Bowen. Be happy with that to supply the ammo.Absolutely - close to the club the source?
Good source says we are making progress with Bowen. Be happy with that to supply the ammo.Absolutely - close to the club the source?
Good source says we are making progress with Bowen. Be happy with that to supply the ammo.I've been hoping we would sign him for ages so would be pleased with this. I didn't think we could spend that srt of capital though.
Piatek? That one came out of the blue. An absolute finisher, loves a header, has a shit celebration and an even worse penalty style. Get it done!
Yep, but I suppose if he's celebrating a goal that's a good thing. I'll put up with the nafness of it.
Kodjia to run riot tonight
Piatek? That one came out of the blue. An absolute finisher, loves a header, has a shit celebration and an even worse penalty style. Get it done!
Yep, but I suppose if he's celebrating a goal that's a good thing. I'll put up with the nafness of it.
I remember how impressed I was watching the goals video of Scott Hogan !!!!!
No idea what people have against Nyland
Pepe Reina a few years past his best is still better than Nyland and Kalinic at their best.How do you know this? Serious question, have you been watching him regulalry?
Good source says we are making progress with Bowen. Be happy with that to supply the ammo.I've been hoping we would sign him for ages so would be pleased with this. I didn't think we could spend that srt of capital though.
I really don't see the keeper position as being top of our priority list
Nyland - I think has come on and has beefed up quite a lot - his ariel take at Burnley under extreme pressure was as good as a goal
Kalinic - International keeper as back up
Steer - only weeks away one would assume
Sarkic - very young but already game experience
If we were to lose another though injury are we not allowed an emergency loan as it is a specialised position?
Without goals we are knackered - a striker is top priority (if not 2)
Another link. This time Jay Rodriguez. I love twatter
Pepe Reina a few years past his best is still better than Nyland and Kalinic at their best.How do you know this? Serious question, have you been watching him regulalry?
Another link. This time Jay Rodriguez. I love twatter
The Athletic is pushing this as an exclusive.
Another link. This time Jay Rodriguez. I love twatter
The Athletic is pushing this as an exclusive.
yeah, contemplating cancelling my subscription because of it :P
And not all on this list I made perhaps are even feasible , suitable let alone inspiring, and could even be gambles.
But here's how I see it available options are :
Bowen stands out along with Beneraha as best championship signings though they don't have the experience they have quality..I would agree with that assessment. Mitrovic would definitely offer something, but we won't get him.
Championship wise those forwards with premier league experience who could be offering something - outside of Mitrovic Fulham and Andre Ayew Swansea
All there is at a push :Andi Weimann or Ben Afobe Bristol City
Sam Vokes / Mame Diouf - Stoke
Certainly no thanks really to them but they stand out more than and no to any of these ex premier league players
Patrick Bamford
Frazier Campbell
Steve Mounie
Colin Quaner
Callum Patterson
Kenneth Zahore
Hal Robson Kanu
Charlie Austin
David Nugent
Steven Fletcher
Sone Aluko
Nahki Wells
And wide forwards Nathan Dyer and Junior Hillier
Are frankly, in 2020 , not good enough and not up to Villa standard.
Slim pickings all round
Also, I believe young Louie Barry was born in Aston so might be one of ours?
Also, I believe young Louie Barry was born in Aston so might be one of ours?
I think he’s from Sutton and I’m pretty sure Barry’s dad owns The Lounge pub in Boldmere.
Also, I believe young Louie Barry was born in Aston so might be one of ours?
I think he’s from Sutton and I’m pretty sure Barry’s dad owns The Lounge pub in Boldmere.
A couple of posts I read on a Bitter Baggies forum suggested he was a Villa fan.
The Pepe Reina rumour seems to be gathering pace
Benteke and Bowen with a loan of Murray would keep us up I reckon.I'd also see if Ashley Young fancied joining us till the end of the season instead of Inter Milan. He'd be useful.
Also, I believe young Louie Barry was born in Aston so might be one of ours?
I think he’s from Sutton and I’m pretty sure Barry’s dad owns The Lounge pub in Boldmere.
A couple of posts I read on a Bitter Baggies forum suggested he was a Villa fan.
Yes he’s a Villa fan.
Benteke and Bowen with a loan of Murray would keep us up I reckon.I'd take that.
Reina..Jesus.
Surely Nyland is not THAT bad.
Reina..Jesus.
Surely Nyland is not THAT bad.
Reina..Jesus.
Surely Nyland is not THAT bad.
I’d say a good signing and gives us two decent keepers contesting the spot. Rather this than the status quo or spending unnecessary money on a better keeper with a long contract. Gives us more money for a forward
I’d love this to be honest. I also think Pepe could be really good bit of business if true.Benteke and Bowen with a loan of Murray would keep us up I reckon.I'd take that.
I've seen us linked with Rudy Gestede today.
Might as well just relegate us now if that's the case.
I've seen us linked with Rudy Gestede today.
Might as well just relegate us now if that's the case.
can't view twitter. I'm banned.I've seen us linked with Rudy Gestede today.
Might as well just relegate us now if that's the case.
Seems legit (https://twitter.com/villa_report).
can't view twitter. I'm banned.I've seen us linked with Rudy Gestede today.
Might as well just relegate us now if that's the case.
Seems legit (https://twitter.com/villa_report).
can't view twitter. I'm banned.I've seen us linked with Rudy Gestede today.
Might as well just relegate us now if that's the case.
Seems legit (https://twitter.com/villa_report).
It's a fake account with 5 followers and 3 tweets. Yet 32 bellends have retweeted it.can't view twitter. I'm banned.I've seen us linked with Rudy Gestede today.
Might as well just relegate us now if that's the case.
Seems legit (https://twitter.com/villa_report).
We need about 6 players.
Reina..Jesus.
Surely Nyland is not THAT bad.
We don't need another central midfielder (that's what he is, right?).We most certainly do.
Talksport are currently flogging Jack & Tyrone to Man U.
Zzzzzzz
Who’s coming the other way?Christ, we don't want any of their flakes.
It'll be very interesting to see what he does about a goalkeeper after Nyland's performance tonight. Judging by his previous comments he clearly wasn't comfortable with Nyland (or Steer) as number one until the end of the season, but that may well have changed his mind.
Pepe #Reina’s agent (JM Quilon) is in Birmingham. Total agreement with #AstonVilla for a contract until June with automatic renewal in the event of a stay in the Premier League. #Milan have given its ok to Reina’s departure for free. Done deal 🔜 #transfers #AVFC
https://twitter.com/NicoSchira/status/1215024969173946368.QuotePepe #Reina’s agent (JM Quilon) is in Birmingham. Total agreement with #AstonVilla for a contract until June with automatic renewal in the event of a stay in the Premier League. #Milan have given its ok to Reina’s departure for free. Done deal 🔜 #transfers #AVFC
https://twitter.com/NicoSchira/status/1215024969173946368.QuotePepe #Reina’s agent (JM Quilon) is in Birmingham. Total agreement with #AstonVilla for a contract until June with automatic renewal in the event of a stay in the Premier League. #Milan have given its ok to Reina’s departure for free. Done deal 🔜 #transfers #AVFC
Automatic renewal sounds a bit dumb, if true. Even assuming Kalinic leaves, that would still leave us back with four keepers, which is one too many. I haven't counted Klasnis as suspect he will be loaned out again at some point.
Steer isn't fit for another 6 weeks. Nyland has shown he can have confidence issues. Not bringing in an experienced keeper would be neglegent. Kalinic is clearly going.
We don't need another central midfielder (that's what he is, right?).We most certainly do.
For me we have far bigger problems than Nyland. He's looked good every time he's played this season. He's up for it and deserves his chancei agree- did well when he came on for Heaton at Burnley and was terrific at Leicester last night. Deserves a chance, as you say. I think last night’s performance has taken the pressure off having to strengthen that position. Club may decide they can’t risk it and need to sign another keeper, just to be safe. Most important position in the team, I think. Stating the obvious, need 1 maybe 2 strikers. Might sound daft, but cos we didn’t really rely on Wes for goals (cos he hasn’t scored any) and we’ve scored goals from different players, it might not have cost us too badly, him being injured. I mean Losing McGinn has hurt us, likewise if we lost Jack. Wes does add value, but not in the sticking the ball in the net way that you expect from a striker, like Bent for example. Piatek would be great if we could get him. Can’t see it though.
For me we have far bigger problems than Nyland. He's looked good every time he's played this season. He's up for it and deserves his chancei agree- did well when he came on for Heaton at Burnley and was terrific at Leicester last night. Deserves a chance, as you say. I think last night’s performance has taken the pressure off having to strengthen that position. Club may decide they can’t risk it and need to sign another keeper, just to be safe. Most important position in the team, I think. Stating the obvious, need 1 maybe 2 strikers. Might sound daft, but cos we didn’t really rely on Wes for goals (cos he hasn’t scored any) and we’ve scored goals from different players, it might not have cost us too badly, him being injured. I mean Losing McGinn has hurt us, likewise if we lost Jack. Wes does add value, but not in the sticking the ball in the net way that you expect from a striker, like Bent for example. Piatek would be great if we could get him. Can’t see it though.
Steer isn't fit for another 6 weeks. Nyland has shown he can have confidence issues. Not bringing in an experienced keeper would be neglegent. Kalinic is clearly going.
Not only that, if Nyland happens to get injured, it leaves us with Kalanic. Bring Reina in but leave Nyland as first choice for now and see how it goes.
Fuck Rodriguez. He's an absolute twat.
Fuck Rodriguez. He's an absolute twat.
For me we have far bigger problems than Nyland. He's looked good every time he's played this season. He's up for it and deserves his chancei agree- did well when he came on for Heaton at Burnley and was terrific at Leicester last night. Deserves a chance, as you say. I think last night’s performance has taken the pressure off having to strengthen that position. Club may decide they can’t risk it and need to sign another keeper, just to be safe. Most important position in the team, I think. Stating the obvious, need 1 maybe 2 strikers. Might sound daft, but cos we didn’t really rely on Wes for goals (cos he hasn’t scored any) and we’ve scored goals from different players, it might not have cost us too badly, him being injured. I mean Losing McGinn has hurt us, likewise if we lost Jack. Wes does add value, but not in the sticking the ball in the net way that you expect from a striker, like Bent for example. Piatek would be great if we could get him. Can’t see it though.
I definitely see it as his shirt to lose now but if he falls down the stairs today who plays at the weekend? We need cover.
Fuck Rodriguez. He's an absolute twat.
This. Can’t stand him.
Fuck Rodriguez. He's an absolute twat.
Reina has played 5 times for Milan in the last two seasons. Another signing of a player in semi retirement.
Fucking love Rodriguez, his sense of balance and lovely hair.
Get him in, Villa.
Don’t think this has been mentioned.
Just listened to BBC’s Football daily podcast from last night and there was an interesting section on Louie Barry.
He was at West Brom from the age of 6, didn’t sign pro forms with them but instead moved to Barca’s academy. A tribunal set a fee of €130k for the transfer which apparently Barca have yet to pay.
Former Albion academy boss has since taken up a similar post at villa and told us about Barry. BBC suggested a price of around £700k with various performance related add ons could see it rise to several million. Albion pissed off as they’ve developed him, as yet not received the relatively low compensation fee and now we’ve picked up ‘thier’ hot prospect. The delay appears to be because of the fee still owed from Barca to Albion.
Don’t think this has been mentioned.Barcelona can act more than a bit shady at times "Més que un club".
Just listened to BBC’s Football daily podcast from last night and there was an interesting section on Louie Barry.
He was at West Brom from the age of 6, didn’t sign pro forms with them but instead moved to Barca’s academy. A tribunal set a fee of €130k for the transfer which apparently Barca have yet to pay.
Former Albion academy boss has since taken up a similar post at villa and told us about Barry. BBC suggested a price of around £700k with various performance related add ons could see it rise to several million. Albion pissed off as they’ve developed him, as yet not received the relatively low compensation fee and now we’ve picked up ‘thier’ hot prospect. The delay appears to be because of the fee still owed from Barca to Albion.
I do think Albion have a point, to be fair. No reason why Barcelona can't be paying what they owe, the twats.
I do think Albion have a point, to be fair. No reason why Barcelona can't be paying what they owe, the twats.
Don’t think this has been mentioned.Barcelona can act more than a bit shady at times "Més que un club".
Just listened to BBC’s Football daily podcast from last night and there was an interesting section on Louie Barry.
He was at West Brom from the age of 6, didn’t sign pro forms with them but instead moved to Barca’s academy. A tribunal set a fee of €130k for the transfer which apparently Barca have yet to pay.
Former Albion academy boss has since taken up a similar post at villa and told us about Barry. BBC suggested a price of around £700k with various performance related add ons could see it rise to several million. Albion pissed off as they’ve developed him, as yet not received the relatively low compensation fee and now we’ve picked up ‘thier’ hot prospect. The delay appears to be because of the fee still owed from Barca to Albion.
I said in the summer Rodriguez is shithousery on legs but that's just what we could do with a bit of. Plus he gets a few goals and it would stop him punching one in against us.
I said in the summer Rodriguez is shithousery on legs but that's just what we could do with a bit of. Plus he gets a few goals and it would stop him punching one in against us.
I'd be surprised if he's leaving AC Milan's bench to sit on ours. I expect he'll be straight in, if fit, regardless of Nyland's form.
I do think Albion have a point, to be fair. No reason why Barcelona can't be paying what they owe, the twats.
Don’t think this has been mentioned.
Just listened to BBC’s Football daily podcast from last night and there was an interesting section on Louie Barry.
He was at West Brom from the age of 6, didn’t sign pro forms with them but instead moved to Barca’s academy. A tribunal set a fee of €130k for the transfer which apparently Barca have yet to pay.
Former Albion academy boss has since taken up a similar post at villa and told us about Barry. BBC suggested a price of around £700k with various performance related add ons could see it rise to several million. Albion pissed off as they’ve developed him, as yet not received the relatively low compensation fee and now we’ve picked up ‘thier’ hot prospect. The delay appears to be because of the fee still owed from Barca to Albion.
It's a good while since we've had one of your Albion rants Dave. I had hoped we'd draw them in a cup just so we could revisit one.I do think Albion have a point, to be fair. No reason why Barcelona can't be paying what they owe, the twats.
You should know the house rules by now. No abuse, no libel, no being fair to the stripeys.
Ashley young back as a cheap wing back option?Save the money...I'll play for free
Ashley young back as a cheap wing back option?Save the money...I'll play for free
He's joining Inter Milan.
His wages would be anything but cheap and I can't see why he'd swap uniteds bench for ours. But he'd be an upgrade on our current leftbacks.He's joining Inter Milan.
Well they want him but hes not even spoken to them. Like I said just a thought he would be along the lines of the reins deal. Cheap low risk cover for Taggart when hes back
Piatek still on apparently. Well it's twatter but it's from the Milan side.
As for Louie Barry, Barca need to pay Albion what they fucking owe and stop taking the piss. Twats.
Fuck Rodriguez. He's an absolute twat.
Piatek still on apparently. Well it's twatter but it's from the Milan side.
As for Louie Barry, Barca need to pay Albion what they fucking owe and stop taking the piss. Twats.
A journalist said that (fuck) the Albion can only take legal action against Barcelona, the player is registered now. So no way they can block it.
Piatek still on apparently. Well it's twatter but it's from the Milan side.
As for Louie Barry, Barca need to pay Albion what they fucking owe and stop taking the piss. Twats.
A journalist said that (fuck) the Albion can only take legal action against Barcelona, the player is registered now. So no way they can block it.
Cheers.
That's a relief as I was worried it could stop his move to Villa.
Day 9, and still no new striker in. Plenty of interest in Kodjia and Hogan moving on. This is proving difficult which stems back to last August when the decision was taken not to sign another striker.....
I just think that Nyland looks so focussed and determined that risking upsetting that by bringing in Reina is not worth it. I appreciate with Steer not back yet there's simited cover, but in hopefully unlikley event Nyland gets injured we do have Sarkic to fall back on. At some point you have to draw a line. For me we have enough keeprs and Nyland has earned his chance. Lets spend the wages elsewhere.That's where I am on this.
Day 9, and still no new striker in. Plenty of interest in Kodjia and Hogan moving on. This is proving difficult which stems back to last August when the decision was taken not to sign another striker.....The deicison may not have been taken in August: they may just not have been able to get the players they wanted.
In fairness we're playing games without any strikers. We can't really afford to relax and wait until the end of Jan, it may be too late then.Day 9, and still no new striker in. Plenty of interest in Kodjia and Hogan moving on. This is proving difficult which stems back to last August when the decision was taken not to sign another striker.....
You're not going to panic all month like you did in the summer when we went two whole days without signing anyone and we ended up with 12 players? Relax.
I've just had a quick look on a Everton messsgeboard, as we've been linked with Tosun.
I get the impression he's not very good!
in the Leicester match there was an incident I recall in our box that resulted in a one on one with the keeper, not sure which Leicester player it was, but it was at Nyland’s left post , the Leicester player shaped to shoot and Nyland for a second, looked like he was going to go down, but then just stood tall and the eventual shot was blocked off his shoulder it looked like. I thought it was a certain goal, Leicester players and fans probably thought the same. It was at that point in the match I thought: this lad is good. Obviously it was gutting Heaton getting badly injured, but Nyland showed great technique and probably more importantly, good character against Leicester. Not much he could have done for the goal- that was a shocker of a free kick and Leicester reacted so quick it was unreal. Brilliant finish too. Not many keepers would be stopping a rocket like that from just inside the area.I just think that Nyland looks so focussed and determined that risking upsetting that by bringing in Reina is not worth it. I appreciate with Steer not back yet there's simited cover, but in hopefully unlikley event Nyland gets injured we do have Sarkic to fall back on. At some point you have to draw a line. For me we have enough keeprs and Nyland has earned his chance. Lets spend the wages elsewhere.That's where I am on this.
I've just had a quick look on a Everton messsgeboard, as we've been linked with Tosun.
I get the impression he's not very good!
In fairness we're playing games without any strikers. We can't really afford to relax and wait until the end of Jan, it may be too late then.Day 9, and still no new striker in. Plenty of interest in Kodjia and Hogan moving on. This is proving difficult which stems back to last August when the decision was taken not to sign another striker.....
You're not going to panic all month like you did in the summer when we went two whole days without signing anyone and we ended up with 12 players? Relax.
Day 9, and still no new striker in. Plenty of interest in Kodjia and Hogan moving on. This is proving difficult which stems back to last August when the decision was taken not to sign another striker.....
You're not going to panic all month like you did in the summer when we went two whole days without signing anyone and we ended up with 12 players? Relax.
Day 9, and still no new striker in. Plenty of interest in Kodjia and Hogan moving on. This is proving difficult which stems back to last August when the decision was taken not to sign another striker.....
You're not going to panic all month like you did in the summer when we went two whole days without signing anyone and we ended up with 12 players? Relax.
Despite which, Lansbury gets a game. However you look at it our recruitment or coaching is a bit tom tit.
Someone I spoke to today reckons his daughter is going out with Joe Lolley's golf partner.Twatter has Kodjia to forest rumours all over it today.
Lolley was withdrawn from the forest squad over the weekend and told is was because of an imminent move (to Villa I'm guessing)
that's not an ITK...just some idle gossip I picked up from an engineer today.
In fairness we're playing games without any strikers. We can't really afford to relax and wait until the end of Jan, it may be too late then.Day 9, and still no new striker in. Plenty of interest in Kodjia and Hogan moving on. This is proving difficult which stems back to last August when the decision was taken not to sign another striker.....
You're not going to panic all month like you did in the summer when we went two whole days without signing anyone and we ended up with 12 players? Relax.
We've played one so far. I'm sure they are trying, so it may not be the end of January when they come in. And I said fans should relax, not the club.
Someone I spoke to today reckons his daughter is going out with Joe Lolley's golf partner.Twatter has Kodjia to forest rumours all over it today.
Lolley was withdrawn from the forest squad over the weekend and told is was because of an imminent move (to Villa I'm guessing)
that's not an ITK...just some idle gossip I picked up from an engineer today.
Lolley incoming in exchange???
Hoping like in Jurassic Park he has taking Hagi’s DNA and made a new Gheorghe Hagi
Hoping like in Jurassic Park he has taking Hagi’s DNA and made a new Gheorghe Hagi
If it turned out to be Hagi's son, it would be some coup. The lad's looked quality when I've seen him.
Maybe it’s Dennis Man? Young winger linked to Birmingham City but I imagine the journalist may have got mixed up....especially as he’ll cost 8-10m and they don’t have a pot to piss in.
Not seen him play, but as long as he can cross the ball he’ll be infinitely better than “Trezeguet”
This guys list of players only has 1 that looks likely, Florinel Coman. I love a punt, if its true, but by god it needs to be better than Tonev.
This guys list of players only has 1 that looks likely, Florinel Coman. I love a punt, if its true, but by god it needs to be better than Tonev.
This guys list of players only has 1 that looks likely, Florinel Coman. I love a punt, if its true, but by god it needs to be better than Tonev.
Quick google. Fast left winger who has 10 goals and 7 assists in 18 league games and 2 goals in 8 Europa league games.
21 and dubbed the Romanian mbappe, I love a punt so fingers crossed (A) it is him and (B) grealish can move back to the centre
Both the wingers are meant to be really hot prospects there. Knowing Villa we will get the wrong one lol
I don’t know who this bloke is.
https://twitter.com/villareport/status/1215398819795521537?s=21
I don’t know who this bloke is.
https://twitter.com/villareport/status/1215398819795521537?s=21
I don’t know who this bloke is.
https://twitter.com/villareport/status/1215398819795521537?s=21
Reading spent £10m on a player in the summer? Game's gone, Jeff.
Day 9, and still no new striker in. Plenty of interest in Kodjia and Hogan moving on. This is proving difficult which stems back to last August when the decision was taken not to sign another striker.....
You're not going to panic all month like you did in the summer when we went two whole days without signing anyone and we ended up with 12 players? Relax.
Despite which, Lansbury gets a game. However you look at it our recruitment or coaching is a bit tom tit.
I'm not a fan either but Lansbury getting game time is down to Smith. If he didn't rate him, he'd have let him go by now.
Day 9, and still no new striker in. Plenty of interest in Kodjia and Hogan moving on. This is proving difficult which stems back to last August when the decision was taken not to sign another striker.....
You're not going to panic all month like you did in the summer when we went two whole days without signing anyone and we ended up with 12 players? Relax.
Despite which, Lansbury gets a game. However you look at it our recruitment or coaching is a bit tom tit.
I'm not a fan either but Lansbury getting game time is down to Smith. If he didn't rate him, he'd have let him go by now.
I was trying to say that if those 12 signings had been any good, we wouldn’t be playing Lansbury so I’m hoping that comparisons between the August and December are limited.
I don't think for a moment we were interested in him - the club or agent used us to put pressure on others to bid.
Piatek - mentioned this morning that he is on his to Spurz for £28 million - if true we can move on to our next target?I suspect he never was a target. I doubt we'll be spending £20-£30m this window.
Piatek - mentioned this morning that he is on his to Spurz for £28 million - if true we can move on to our next target?Levy will bid £2.8m and a slice of leftover Xmas cake. We could still be in the running...sure aren't we loaded?
I suspect even if we offered enough cash, he'd be unlikely to swap Milan for a struggle in the premiership, when waiting until the summer would allow him his choice of clubs.Piatek - mentioned this morning that he is on his to Spurz for £28 million - if true we can move on to our next target?I suspect he never was a target. I doubt we'll be spending £20-£30m this window.
Going from the highlights alone, Dennis Man looks a better prospect than Coman. Looks faster, better close control and better vision and altogether looks sharper. The only downside is that he seems to wear his shorts like he's in prison. Coman looks like a show pony. I think both would struggle badly here - they would be ones for the end of next season I would think but we do need to think forwards, so I wouldn't be adverse to a punt. Need replacements when we sell McGinn for £50M and Trez for £30. See what I did there.
2 hours left for a striker announcement or no striker vs City. Kodjia recovering from illness is basically the same thing.
Buy a striker you set of divs!
I'd be astonished if we go into Sunday without signing a striker
It might be Connor Wickham you know.
I'd be astonished if we go into Sunday without signing a striker
Imaging el ghazi and grealish feeding off the beasts hold up play!
As much as we all loved Benteke, he's not the same player we had is he ?
It's one hell of a gamble signing a striker in an absolutely wretched run of form goal wise and expect him to suddenly find it again when it's eluded him for a couple of years
We need goals
As much as we all loved Benteke, he's not the same player we had is he ?
It's one hell of a gamble signing a striker in an absolutely wretched run of form goal wise and expect him to suddenly find it again when it's eluded him for a couple of years
We need goals
I agree. The thing is with gambles is that they don't always pay off. We've just gambled on a midfielder who has hardly played in two years, so Benteke would be another gamble too far for me. We gambled in the summer on our striking options being good enough when a lot of people thought that they probably wouldn't be. Now that it has been proved without a shadow of a doubt that that throw of the dice hasn't worked, the club need to rectify the situation, and a bit more quickly please.
I'm with Balti and Risso. I love the idea of Benteke finding form and being brilliant for us, but the risk is just too high. I'd take him on a cheap loan but only if we also signed a more nailed on alternative.
As much as we all loved Benteke, he's not the same player we had is he ?
It's one hell of a gamble signing a striker in an absolutely wretched run of form goal wise and expect him to suddenly find it again when it's eluded him for a couple of years
We need goals
I agree. The thing is with gambles is that they don't always pay off. We've just gambled on a midfielder who has hardly played in two years, so Benteke would be another gamble too far for me. We gambled in the summer on our striking options being good enough when a lot of people thought that they probably wouldn't be. Now that it has been proved without a shadow of a doubt that that throw of the dice hasn't worked, the club need to rectify the situation, and a bit more quickly please.
Palace dont play to teekrra strengths smith does. This is key
I'm with Balti and Risso. I love the idea of Benteke finding form and being brilliant for us, but the risk is just too high. I'd take him on a cheap loan but only if we also signed a more nailed on alternative.
As much as we all loved Benteke, he's not the same player we had is he ?
It's one hell of a gamble signing a striker in an absolutely wretched run of form goal wise and expect him to suddenly find it again when it's eluded him for a couple of years
We need goals
I agree. The thing is with gambles is that they don't always pay off. We've just gambled on a midfielder who has hardly played in two years, so Benteke would be another gamble too far for me. We gambled in the summer on our striking options being good enough when a lot of people thought that they probably wouldn't be. Now that it has been proved without a shadow of a doubt that that throw of the dice hasn't worked, the club need to rectify the situation, and a bit more quickly please.
Tosun (striker) confirmed loan from Everton to Palace.
If we were going to go for Benteke, I feel like we should expect some movement very soon.
Tosun (striker) confirmed loan from Everton to Palace.
If we were going to go for Benteke, I feel like we should expect some movement very soon.
If it's going to be Benteke then thinking about what he might bring, those 6 pointers he played in under Sherwood & Lamberk, there'll be more to come under Smith, he delivered every time pretty much.
Tosun (striker) confirmed loan from Everton to Palace.
If we were going to go for Benteke, I feel like we should expect some movement very soon.
Hope not, can’t see fairytales happening if he signs
Tosun (striker) confirmed loan from Everton to Palace.
If we were going to go for Benteke, I feel like we should expect some movement very soon.
Hope not, can’t see fairytales happening if he signs
I don't know what qualifies as a fairytale personally. But given Wesley's return, a couple of match-winning goals and helping us scrape promotion would be more than enough.
Tosun (striker) confirmed loan from Everton to Palace.
If we were going to go for Benteke, I feel like we should expect some movement very soon.
I can feel a movement right now
But in this case we'd be gambling on a miracle turn around after 6 years of medocracy, just because he's playing for Villa. It would have been a good story line in Roy of the RoversI'm with Balti and Risso. I love the idea of Benteke finding form and being brilliant for us, but the risk is just too high. I'd take him on a cheap loan but only if we also signed a more nailed on alternative.
As much as we all loved Benteke, he's not the same player we had is he ?
It's one hell of a gamble signing a striker in an absolutely wretched run of form goal wise and expect him to suddenly find it again when it's eluded him for a couple of years
We need goals
I agree. The thing is with gambles is that they don't always pay off. We've just gambled on a midfielder who has hardly played in two years, so Benteke would be another gamble too far for me. We gambled in the summer on our striking options being good enough when a lot of people thought that they probably wouldn't be. Now that it has been proved without a shadow of a doubt that that throw of the dice hasn't worked, the club need to rectify the situation, and a bit more quickly please.
Every transfer is a gamble though. If we'd have got that chap from Milan, he would have been a gamble as well.
I thought we could only have one loan from another Premier League club. If that's right, it's been taken by Drinkwater so a loan for Benteke couldn't happen.I thought it was two loans from PL, but max of 1 from any club - so we cant' loan Giroud but could take Salah or Aguero.
I thought we could only have one loan from another Premier League club. If that's right, it's been taken by Drinkwater so a loan for Benteke couldn't happen.I thought it was two loans from PL, but max of 1 from any club - so we cant' loan Giroud but could take Salah or Aguero.
Speech bubbles on the Melchester terraces.But in this case we'd be gambling on a miracle turn around after 6 years of medocracy, just because he's playing for Villa. It would have been a good story line in Roy of the RoversI'm with Balti and Risso. I love the idea of Benteke finding form and being brilliant for us, but the risk is just too high. I'd take him on a cheap loan but only if we also signed a more nailed on alternative.
As much as we all loved Benteke, he's not the same player we had is he ?
It's one hell of a gamble signing a striker in an absolutely wretched run of form goal wise and expect him to suddenly find it again when it's eluded him for a couple of years
We need goals
I agree. The thing is with gambles is that they don't always pay off. We've just gambled on a midfielder who has hardly played in two years, so Benteke would be another gamble too far for me. We gambled in the summer on our striking options being good enough when a lot of people thought that they probably wouldn't be. Now that it has been proved without a shadow of a doubt that that throw of the dice hasn't worked, the club need to rectify the situation, and a bit more quickly please.
Every transfer is a gamble though. If we'd have got that chap from Milan, he would have been a gamble as well.
I caveat all this with the fact that deep down I'd love to see him in a Villa shirt again, I just hope there's a plan B.
I thought we could only have one loan from another Premier League club. If that's right, it's been taken by Drinkwater so a loan for Benteke couldn't happen.I thought it was two loans from PL, but max of 1 from any club - so we cant' loan Giroud but could take Salah or Aguero.
I thought we could only have one loan from another Premier League club. If that's right, it's been taken by Drinkwater so a loan for Benteke couldn't happen.I thought it was two loans from PL, but max of 1 from any club - so we cant' loan Giroud but could take Salah or Aguero.
Let's do that, then.
Aguero is a bit injury prone. Loan him and buy Salah.I thought we could only have one loan from another Premier League club. If that's right, it's been taken by Drinkwater so a loan for Benteke couldn't happen.I thought it was two loans from PL, but max of 1 from any club - so we cant' loan Giroud but could take Salah or Aguero.
Let's do that, then.
Loan Salah and buy Aguero?
This.Aguero is a bit injury prone. Loan him and buy Salah.I thought we could only have one loan from another Premier League club. If that's right, it's been taken by Drinkwater so a loan for Benteke couldn't happen.I thought it was two loans from PL, but max of 1 from any club - so we cant' loan Giroud but could take Salah or Aguero.
Let's do that, then.
Loan Salah and buy Aguero?
I don’t care what form Benteke is in, I will take him every day of the week against an “in-form” Wesley. He’s proved nothing and hasn’t impressed me at all. Benteke can at least strike a ball from 15+ yards, beat his defender and head a ball. I’ve seen it.We've all seen Kodjia do it too. And a lot more recently than Benteke.
I don’t care what form Benteke is in, I will take him every day of the week against an “in-form” Wesley. He’s proved nothing and hasn’t impressed me at all. Benteke can at least strike a ball from 15+ yards, beat his defender and head a ball. I’ve seen it.
I don’t care what form Benteke is in, I will take him every day of the week against an “in-form” Wesley. He’s proved nothing and hasn’t impressed me at all. Benteke can at least strike a ball from 15+ yards, beat his defender and head a ball. I’ve seen it.We've all seen Kodjia do it too. And a lot more recently than Benteke.
I don’t care what form Benteke is in, I will take him every day of the week against an “in-form” Wesley. He’s proved nothing and hasn’t impressed me at all. Benteke can at least strike a ball from 15+ yards, beat his defender and head a ball. I’ve seen it.We've all seen Kodjia do it too. And a lot more recently than Benteke.
These last 5 pages on Benteke from Palace fans make an interesting read (https://www.holmesdale.net/page.php?id=106&tid=170085&page=235).
I don’t care what form Benteke is in, I will take him every day of the week against an “in-form” Wesley. He’s proved nothing and hasn’t impressed me at all. Benteke can at least strike a ball from 15+ yards, beat his defender and head a ball. I’ve seen it.We've all seen Kodjia do it too. And a lot more recently than Benteke.
Not sure about Salah. He was hopeless at Chelsea. It would be a gamble.
I thought we could only have one loan from another Premier League club. If that's right, it's been taken by Drinkwater so a loan for Benteke couldn't happen.I thought it was two loans from PL, but max of 1 from any club - so we cant' loan Giroud but could take Salah or Aguero.
Not sure about Salah. He was hopeless at Chelsea. It would be a gamble.
We do have the Egyptian link, so don’t write it off
Well its basically been said on here that Benteke is coming back loan to buy option.What? - you actually believe all this shit??!!
It was never said when in window but it's been touted as a signing happeningBenteke return may be on the cards. Loan to buy (from what I’ve heard last night)And also we be all been told here that we are signing Jared Bowen.Good source says we are making progress with Bowen. Be happy with that to supply the ammo.So that's Bowen and Benteke according to this itk
I think this comment from a Palace fan sums it up for me.
"Villa desperate after they lost both goalie and main striker for rest of season. Really hope they feel nostalgic and pick up CB."
We'd be buying a player based exactly on that, nostalgia. Not current form or ability, but what he did 5 years ago. His three goals this season have come against Cyprus and San Marino. He scored 1 goal last season, and 3 the year before. If he hadn't played us for before, people would be going absolutely mental if a player that poor was linked with us.
Three years isn't a loss of form; it's a loss of ability.I think this comment from a Palace fan sums it up for me.
"Villa desperate after they lost both goalie and main striker for rest of season. Really hope they feel nostalgic and pick up CB."
We'd be buying a player based exactly on that, nostalgia. Not current form or ability, but what he did 5 years ago. His three goals this season have come against Cyprus and San Marino. He scored 1 goal last season, and 3 the year before. If he hadn't played us for before, people would be going absolutely mental if a player that poor was linked with us.
But..
We’ve seen his potential first hand and Wesley has been a passenger for the entire season. He has no impact on the game.
I’ll take a risk on an out of form Benteke over what Wesley has offered this season, no question.
I think this comment from a Palace fan sums it up for me.
"Villa desperate after they lost both goalie and main striker for rest of season. Really hope they feel nostalgic and pick up CB."
We'd be buying a player based exactly on that, nostalgia. Not current form or ability, but what he did 5 years ago. His three goals this season have come against Cyprus and San Marino. He scored 1 goal last season, and 3 the year before. If he hadn't played us for before, people would be going absolutely mental if a player that poor was linked with us.
But..
We’ve seen his potential first hand and Wesley has been a passenger for the entire season. He has no impact on the game.
I’ll take a risk on an out of form Benteke over what Wesley has offered this season, no question.
My stance on Benteke is we bought him for £7m, sold him for £32m and if we buy him back for between £9-11m and he's a bust, we are theoretically still up £16-14m. If we loan him with a view even better.
That's my flawed logic and I'm sticking with it.
But if it’s a loan and option to buy what’s the problem?Three years isn't a loss of form; it's a loss of ability.I think this comment from a Palace fan sums it up for me.
"Villa desperate after they lost both goalie and main striker for rest of season. Really hope they feel nostalgic and pick up CB."
We'd be buying a player based exactly on that, nostalgia. Not current form or ability, but what he did 5 years ago. His three goals this season have come against Cyprus and San Marino. He scored 1 goal last season, and 3 the year before. If he hadn't played us for before, people would be going absolutely mental if a player that poor was linked with us.
But..
We’ve seen his potential first hand and Wesley has been a passenger for the entire season. He has no impact on the game.
I’ll take a risk on an out of form Benteke over what Wesley has offered this season, no question.
But if it’s a loan and option to buy what’s the problem?If he's signed on top of everybody else we need, as an extra punt, and if we're not paying his full salary, and if we're not expecting him to be anywhere near the player he was when we first had him and if we're not relying on him to be our main source of goals, then maybe.
I don’t see any risk whatsoever.
Surely he won’t be the only CF we get anyway..
My stance on Benteke is we bought him for £7m, sold him for £32m and if we buy him back for between £9-11m and he's a bust, we are theoretically still up £16-14m. If we loan him with a view even better.
That's my flawed logic and I'm sticking with it.
In this inflated market, we'd be doing extremely well to get him for 9-11m.
Wesley 22m, Joelinton 40m. Benteke 9m? Unlikely I'd say
My stance on Benteke is we bought him for £7m, sold him for £32m and if we buy him back for between £9-11m and he's a bust, we are theoretically still up £16-14m. If we loan him with a view even better.
That's my flawed logic and I'm sticking with it.
In this inflated market, we'd be doing extremely well to get him for 9-11m.
Wesley 22m, Joelinton 40m. Benteke 9m? Unlikely I'd say
Ridiculous comparisons. Those players are young and were in-form, Benteke is a non-scoring striker that's almost 30 years old.
Risso doesn’t want him so that’s another good reason to sign him up 😀Risso's right though: it would be nostalgia signing. There's no convincing football-related argument for signing him, it's a heart ruling the head thing.
I don't think Benteke has done that badly, injuries aside. He looks to have played alright, but he's in an unlucky rut in front of goal.
Risso doesn’t want him so that’s another good reason to sign him up 😀
Risso doesn’t want him so that’s another good reason to sign him up 😀
We could just play Hourihane up front instead I suppose!
My stance on Benteke is we bought him for £7m, sold him for £32m and if we buy him back for between £9-11m and he's a bust, we are theoretically still up £16-14m. If we loan him with a view even better.
That's my flawed logic and I'm sticking with it.
In this inflated market, we'd be doing extremely well to get him for 9-11m.
Wesley 22m, Joelinton 40m. Benteke 9m? Unlikely I'd say
I don't think Benteke has done that badly, injuries aside. He looks to have played alright, but he's in an unlucky rut in front of goal.I'd rather have Weimann back than Benteke
I still think his face fits here. A place where he is hero worshipped. I sent a friend 3 gifs of him last night; rag dolling Smalling, back heel to Andi and the 25 yard biffer at the Albion. He was lightening in a bottle for us. Unplayable st times and adored. I think he needs that adulation.
He's gone from playing at the biggest club in the world and also playing for Liverpool, to an absolute dive in Palace, where Blakey routinely publically criticises him.
I think he's worth the gamble.
I'd take Benteke on loan, as long as we're bringing in another striker as well. Only time Benteke has played badly was last season when he came back from injury and his confidence went. Besides that spell he's been doing a lot of the stuff we know he does well, link up play, holding the ball up, winning headers etc, he just doesn't seem able to buy a goal, the gamble is whether that continues or a move would turn things around. And I think he could work well with the like of Jack, AEG etc as he'd hold the ball up and bring them into play.
Reina signed on loan apparently
Using up our second loan on a keeper concerns me considering our only available strikers at the moment are Indy and Cam, if we assume Kod is off.
Harsh on Nyland if Reina comes in and goes straight into the team. I also hope we've got deals to get rid of a few keepers as having 6 first team keepers is absolutely mental.
Gotta be honest, I'd be really disappointed if we bring Benteke back. He's clearly a busted flush."Benteke's clearly a busted flush"? That's harsh on the lad. He's had injuries and a loss of form but at 29 he's still fighting for a place in a very talented Belgium squad and he's looked a handfull for Palace in recent games. He's clearly struggling for goals but i think he could still be a more than useful addition to our squad right now. Especially when you look around at what a lack of options there is out there. I'd happily take him along with either Mitrovic or Bowen.
We've needed another striker since the summer. All this time to work on it and this is the best they can come up with? What does Pitarch do exactly?
Harsh on Nyland if Reina comes in and goes straight into the team. I also hope we've got deals to get rid of a few keepers as having 6 first team keepers is absolutely mental.
Can't see Nyland being dropped on current form. More like he will continue in the side, but we will have a bit of experience around if Nyland struggles at any point.
Using up our second loan on a keeper concerns me considering our only available strikers at the moment are Indy and Cam, if we assume Kod is off.
Is it two loans globally or domestically?
Using up our second loan on a keeper concerns me considering our only available strikers at the moment are Indy and Cam, if we assume Kod is off.
Is it two loans globally or domestically?
A quick look and I haven't found a definitive answer with overseas players.
I don't buy this argument that he's looked good but just been unlucky in front of goal. It's been going on for 3 or 4 years now. There is zero evidence that he'll suddenly come good now. If he's doing that well why are Palace so keen to get rid? We can ill afford to carry yet another non scoring striker. If we don't start scoring more goals we're going straight back down.Gotta be honest, I'd be really disappointed if we bring Benteke back. He's clearly a busted flush."Benteke's clearly a busted flush"? That's harsh on the lad. He's had injuries and a loss of form but at 29 he's still fighting for a place in a very talented Belgium squad and he's looked a handfull for Palace in recent games. He's clearly struggling for goals but i think he could still be a more than useful addition to our squad right now. Especially when you look around at what a lack of options there is out there. I'd happily take him along with either Mitrovic or Bowen.
We've needed another striker since the summer. All this time to work on it and this is the best they can come up with? What does Pitarch do exactly?
The Reina thing is a strange one really. Seems somewhat unnecessary. It’s also concerning that in Deans Leicester post match interview, he seemed to know very little about it.
Makes we wonder how much he knew about Nakamba, Luiz and Wesley, but that’s another kettle of fish.
Reina is an experienced Premier League keeper.
He's a far better option than Sarkic (who can now go back to Livingston), Kalinic (who can go wherever he likes), and with Steer out for a few more weeks and Heaton out for the rest of the season at least Reina and Nyland are a solid pair.
Using up our second loan on a keeper concerns me considering our only available strikers at the moment are Indy and Cam, if we assume Kod is off.
Is it two loans globally or domestically?
A quick look and I haven't found a definitive answer with overseas players.
The PL rules say (words to the effect of) loans from a club in membership of another National Association don’t count towards the quota. So we can still get another domestic loan (just not from Chelsea).
Some journo linked Kemar Roofe.
I think that's an interesting link. Decent scoring record for Anderlecht this season and looked good for Leeds under Bielsa. Anderlecht got him for 7m so I imagine double that and they'd be open to offers.
Some journo linked Kemar Roofe.
I think that's an interesting link. Decent scoring record for Anderlecht this season and looked good for Leeds under Bielsa. Anderlecht got him for 7m so I imagine double that and they'd be open to offers.
Some journo linked Kemar Roofe.
I think that's an interesting link. Decent scoring record for Anderlecht this season and looked good for Leeds under Bielsa. Anderlecht got him for 7m so I imagine double that and they'd be open to offers.
Only plays well until Christmas though.
I'm somewhat traumatised by the phrase "oven ready".
Don't be so patronising.
Don't be so patronising.
And ill informed.
Don't be so patronising.
Don't be so patronising.
And ill informed.
Not Ill informed. Are you aware how good he is?!
The Reina thing is a strange one really. Seems somewhat unnecessary. It’s also concerning that in Deans Leicester post match interview, he seemed to know very little about it.
Makes we wonder how much he knew about Nakamba, Luiz and Wesley, but that’s another kettle of fish.
Nyland did more errors in his appearance at villa in championship than Reina has in his career
11th January, no forwards in as yet. Massive games coming up, Brighton, Watford, Bournemouth.In fact it’s so long that Footy broke his sabbatical,
Worrying.
Reina is an experienced Premier League keeper.
He's a far better option than Sarkic (who can now go back to Livingston), Kalinic (who can go wherever he likes), and with Steer out for a few more weeks and Heaton out for the rest of the season at least Reina and Nyland are a solid pair.
He has hardly played football in two years at Milan. He could well be pub league standard now.
A world class goal keeper doesn't need to be playing every week to lose his ability and actually at that age it's good he's rested.
I wouldn't think Suso signed someone who isn't capable
Not sure people not understanding to get by in Premier league need a premier level GK. We're not messing around trialling keepers who are steadily improving like nervous Nyland.Reina was Premier League standard for a while till Liverpool decided he wasn't good enough 6 years' ago - and even then, he was making howlers.
Reina is oven ready and has oven gloves for GK hands.
Proven and adds the experience to the squad.
The other point is Suso is head of recruiting.We simply don't know what the real working relationship is between Smith and Pitarch ... unless you're goin to tell us you work at AVFC and have observed them day-to-day.
Dean Smith suggest need an experienced goal keeper and Suso goes get one . A top one at that.
Its admirable the love in for Nyland but there are short memories and far to easily swayed .Nyland did indeed look like a car crash last season. However, in front of a new, balanced defence and - presumably - thanks to Cutler's input, he has begun to look like a top class keeper; not just in one game but in several. Your lack of appreciation for that growth in form is disrespectable, frankly (it mirrors your obsessive dislike of Wesley, some of your previous comments about whom were also highly disrespectful).
Nyland no top keeper and to bank on him being the man to keep us up clearly won't be the case by the coaches .
I'm somewhat traumatised by the phrase "oven ready".
And oven gloves for goalkeeper hands???!
Don't be so patronising.
Not sure people not understanding to get by in Premier league need a premier level GK. We're not messing around trialling keepers who are steadily improving like nervous Nyland.Reina was Premier League standard for a while till Liverpool decided he wasn't good enough 6 years' ago - and even then, he was making howlers.
Reina is oven ready and has oven gloves for GK hands.
Proven and adds the experience to the squad.The other point is Suso is head of recruiting.We simply don't know what the real working relationship is between Smith and Pitarch ... unless you're goin to tell us you work at AVFC and have observed them day-to-day.
Dean Smith suggest need an experienced goal keeper and Suso goes get one . A top one at that.Its admirable the love in for Nyland but there are short memories and far to easily swayed .Nyland did indeed look like a car crash last season. However, in front of a new, balanced defence and - presumably - thanks to Cutler's input, he has begun to look like a top class keeper; not just in one game but in several. Your lack of appreciation for that growth in form is disrespectable, frankly (it mirrors your obsessive dislike of Wesley, some of your previous comments about whom were also highly disrespectful).
Nyland no top keeper and to bank on him being the man to keep us up clearly won't be the case by the coaches .
We're all entitled to our opinions but you often present yours as irrefutable facts; and this is neither easy to read nor fair to other posters.In my opinion.
I can see why Reina has been brought in. Nyland has been good of late but you know what it's like with fans, a player has a few good games, then a few dodgy ones and all of a sudden he's crap (see the Nakamba, Luiz threads). Steer is not back for a while anyway so we did need someone else in. Makes sense to me.I agree with your point about Nakamba & Luiz. It would seem players can't have a dip in form without someone on here deciding they're crap or the worst player we've ever had at Villa Park. Then the heels get dug in and conversations become quite nauseating. It's about opinions. None of us knows any more than orhers unless your telling us some actual itk. My opinion on Reina is that he's been a top keeper and played for top clubs and played for the world cup winners. He's not the same player who left these shores 6 years ago but he could be an invaluable asset to have around in the coming months.
We’re a freak injury away from just having Kalinic and Sarkic.
We’re a freak injury away from just having Kalinic and Sarkic.
Sensible move loaning a stop-gap with experience.
We’re a freak injury away from just having Kalinic and Sarkic.
Sensible move loaning a stop-gap with experience.
The same can be said for every position on the pitch. The club can't afford to have 6 right backs on the books when it doesn't have a single capable striker. Same applies to the GK position for me.
We’re a freak injury away from just having Kalinic and Sarkic.
Sensible move loaning a stop-gap with experience.
The same can be said for every position on the pitch. The club can't afford to have 6 right backs on the books when it doesn't have a single capable striker. Same applies to the GK position for me.
We are zero freak injuries away from having no forwards against the actual fucking treble winners and in three vital games against relegation rivals.
GET THE FUCK ON WITH IT VILLA.
Don't be so patronising.
ha ha I’m laughing by bollocks of reading that
Drumond calling someone else out for being patronising lots of kettles and pots come to mind
I do love you Drum bit that’s got to be a contender for ironic post of the year so far
We are zero freak injuries away from having no forwards against the actual fucking treble winners and in three vital games against relegation rivals.
GET THE FUCK ON WITH IT VILLA.
Roofe and/or Grabban are definitely not good enough for the Premier League.
You can see now why we removed the motto, "Prepared" from the club badge ;)
You can see now why we removed the motto, "Prepared" from the club badge ;)
This thread is getting depressing. It's all so desperate. Do something please Villa!!
I've always liked Dwight Gayle. I thought he was immense for Smethwick in the first leg of the play off's at Villa Park. Not sure how he would fit into our system though.
Is it me or do the Birmingham Mail seem to get even worse over time with their shit stirring, click bait non-story bullshit. I purposely don't click on any of their shit but i see the 'stories' come up listed when you google search us.
Is it me or do the Birmingham Mail seem to get even worse over time with their shit stirring, click bait non-story bullshit. I purposely don't click on any of their shit but i see the 'stories' come up listed when you google search us.
Is it me or do the Birmingham Mail seem to get even worse over time with their shit stirring, click bait non-story bullshit. I purposely don't click on any of their shit but i see the 'stories' come up listed when you google search us.
I was going to mention this. Their click bait shite has gone into overdrive this month.
Don't be so patronising.
ha ha I’m laughing by bollocks of reading that
Drumond calling someone else out for being patronising lots of kettles and pots come to mind
I do love you Drum bit that’s got to be a contender for ironic post of the year so far
You can see now why we removed the motto, "Prepared" from the club badge ;)
In about 1970?
Benteke not in Palace's squad today.... just sayin' !
Not that I mind, I always thought it was a bit of a naff motif. I'd have preferred something fancy in Latin.Mea culpa, perhaps.
Not that I mind, I always thought it was a bit of a naff motif. I'd have preferred something fancy in Latin.Mea culpa, perhaps.
What is ''we desperately need a striker'', in Latin?
I love the history behind "Prepared"Not that I mind, I always thought it was a bit of a naff motif. I'd have preferred something fancy in Latin.Mea culpa, perhaps.
Benteke not in Palace's squad today.... just sayin' !
Yep, saw that.
Don't be so patronising.
ha ha I’m laughing by bollocks of reading that
Drumond calling someone else out for being patronising lots of kettles and pots come to mind
I do love you Drum bit that’s got to be a contender for ironic post of the year so far
Fuck off John
Butyrum non animi tui
Only just found out that the Louie Barry signing has made Albion mad, which cheered me up a bit on this rainy day.Watch the Baggies fans on Soccer AM today scoring a grand total of zero on that penalty shoot out thing they do, that made me laugh.
We should have signed a decent striker by now. Bad show.
We should have signed a decent striker by now. Bad show.
Watkins and Benrahma look no brainers. Both would suit us perfectly.
We should have signed a decent striker by now. Bad show.
Yeah, the rumours are that we don't want to. Don't think we need one, apparently.
There must be a fair few decent strikers on the planet that we can afford and attract. That why the board and the manager get paid the big bucks - to find them. They should have had one or two lined up for the 1st given how light we started the season in the striker dept and how disappointing Wes has turned out to be.We should have signed a decent striker by now. Bad show.
Who should we have signed, Tony because I'm at a loss to see who we can bring in that will actually make a difference?
We should have signed a decent striker by now. Bad show.
Yeah, the rumours are that we don't want to. Don't think we need one, apparently.
Where have you seen that? Smith has given a couple of press conferences and said we are looking for a striker (or two).
We should have signed a decent striker by now. Bad show.
Yeah, the rumours are that we don't want to. Don't think we need one, apparently.
We should have signed a decent striker by now. Bad show.
Yeah, the rumours are that we don't want to. Don't think we need one, apparently.
That's what I've heard too. I agree, think it's better saving till the summer.
Problem is Brentford are pushing Leeds for the 2nd auto-promotion spot, 6 points now. Can't see them selling. Hull lost but 3 points off play-offs.
Erm ......what's that on the badge on the 2015 shirt then?You can see now why we removed the motto, "Prepared" from the club badge ;)
In about 1970?
I appreciate that Clampy but we've been short of forwards from the start of the season hence the lack of preparedness :) Cheers UTVYou can see now why we removed the motto, "Prepared" from the club badge ;)
In fairness, I don't think the club saw two long term injuries happening on the same day.
It seems to have been on the shirts from 1957-69, 1992-95 and from 2007-16.
We should have signed a decent striker by now. Bad show.
Yeah, the rumours are that we don't want to. Don't think we need one, apparently.
That's what I've heard too. I agree, think it's better saving till the summer.
We should have signed a decent striker by now. Bad show.
Yeah, the rumours are that we don't want to. Don't think we need one, apparently.
That's what I've heard too. I agree, think it's better saving till the summer.
We should find out what Benteke's release clause is. And then pay more.
In the summer, as the Jan transfer window is a notoriously bad time to do business.
We don't want to get ripped off.
is that shit still going?Only just found out that the Louie Barry signing has made Albion mad, which cheered me up a bit on this rainy day.Watch the Baggies fans on Soccer AM today scoring a grand total of zero on that penalty shoot out thing they do, that made me laugh.
is that shit still going?Only just found out that the Louie Barry signing has made Albion mad, which cheered me up a bit on this rainy day.Watch the Baggies fans on Soccer AM today scoring a grand total of zero on that penalty shoot out thing they do, that made me laugh.
Benni McCarthy- 5m from Celta Vigo. You heard it here first.
Benni McCarthy- 5m from Celta Vigo. You heard it here first.
A 42-year-old manager to play upfront, thinking outside the box for sure if we do that.
Any chance we can put a stop to his constant double/treble/quadruple posting?
Reminds me of footy skills in how they think they are god gift to heroes and villains!
Point 1. Anyone can edit a wiki! It is not a reliable soice of information, for example about a week ago it said bats played for us.
Point 2. What he did in the premier league is irrelivant when his last appearance in it was about 6 years ago!
Point 3. Stop multi posting, I people want to come on here and read thoughts opinions and gossip! I'm sure noone wants to read an entire page of waffle by the same person! It's bad form to do it over and over as you currently do.
Its admirable the love in for Nyland but there are short memories and far to easily swayed .Nyland did indeed look like a car crash last season. However, in front of a new, balanced defence and - presumably - thanks to Cutler's input, he has begun to look like a top class keeper; not just in one game but in several. Your lack of appreciation for that growth in form is disrespectable, frankly (it mirrors your obsessive dislike of Wesley, some of your previous comments about whom were also highly disrespectful).
Nyland no top keeper and to bank on him being the man to keep us up clearly won't be the case by the coaches .
We're all entitled to our opinions but you often present yours as irrefutable facts; and this is neither easy to read nor fair to other posters.In my opinion.
I was accurate about Wesley ability
And I feel i'll be accurate about Nyland.
Probable errors 2mrw against Man city unfortunately as well as observing a meekness and lack of commanding than has been noted by coaches.
I see them as limited footballers for premier league level.
I will take on board how I write and look to be more clear in point , make it simply and with fair and not rude comment.
Thank you for pointing out .
I won't comment again till Reina makes his debut.
Give everyone a break.
Any chance we can put a stop to his constant double/treble/quadruple posting?
Reminds me of footy skills in how they think they are god gift to heroes and villains!
Point 1. Anyone can edit a wiki! It is not a reliable soice of information, for example about a week ago it said bats played for us.
Point 2. What he did in the premier league is irrelivant when his last appearance in it was about 6 years ago!
Point 3. Stop multi posting, I people want to come on here and read thoughts opinions and gossip! I'm sure noone wants to read an entire page of waffle by the same person! It's bad form to do it over and over as you currently do.
Vill I An is/was footyskillz as well as brice jovial.
Give everyone a break.
Nyland deserves his chance.
Nyland deserves his chance.
So does Vill I An.
Surely we can loan in a striker?
That's the part I don't get. We could sign one for 20m + but ultimately any decent one will want a relegation clause inserted and they'd be off for a similar amount (can recall Demba Ba signing for West Ham in same window we got Darren Bent. He scored a few for them but ultimately they went down and he left. Remy was the same at QPR).
Better to me to get in one for six months, hopefully they're good and then we sign them for the required amount in the summer.
I was going to mention Batsuyhai again given Palace have signed Tosun now but the Drinkwater loan has probably scuppered that.
From BBC Sport:
"Aston Villa and Newcastle United are keen on a January move for Le Havre forward Tino Kadewere, with Norwich City and Tottenham also interested in the 24-year-old Zimbabwe striker. (Football Insider)"
Hope he minds the windows.
From BBC Sport:
"Aston Villa and Newcastle United are keen on a January move for Le Havre forward Tino Kadewere, with Norwich City and Tottenham also interested in the 24-year-old Zimbabwe striker. (Football Insider)"
Hope he minds the windows.
From BBC Sport:
"Aston Villa and Newcastle United are keen on a January move for Le Havre forward Tino Kadewere, with Norwich City and Tottenham also interested in the 24-year-old Zimbabwe striker. (Football Insider)"
Hope he minds the windows.
Looks and plays a bit like Tammy. £15m might be worth a punt but I thought we had already got Zimbabwe’s best player?!?
Watkins and Benrahma look no brainers. Both would suit us perfectly.Maybe you have seen more of them than me but watching today Benrahma is no better than what we have got and Watkins has great positioning but would be one for later on, please tell me I'm wrong.
I appreciate that Clampy but we've been short of forwards from the start of the season hence the lack of preparedness :) Cheers UTVYou can see now why we removed the motto, "Prepared" from the club badge ;)
In fairness, I don't think the club saw two long term injuries happening on the same day.
we're not signing anyone from the French second division for 15m, or Watkins and/or Benrahma from Brentford for a piss taking fee - not that they will sell now anyway. I also don't think for a moment that Benteke is on our radar.
From BBC Sport:
"Aston Villa and Newcastle United are keen on a January move for Le Havre forward Tino Kadewere, with Norwich City and Tottenham also interested in the 24-year-old Zimbabwe striker. (Football Insider)"
Hope he minds the windows.
Looks and plays a bit like Tammy. £15m might be worth a punt but I thought we had already got Zimbabwe’s best player?!?
Don't be so patronising.
ha ha I’m laughing by bollocks of reading that
Drumond calling someone else out for being patronising lots of kettles and pots come to mind
I do love you Drum bit that’s got to be a contender for ironic post of the year so far
Fuck off John
How about you both knock it off before we do it for you, you've both been here long enough to know this isn't tolerated, you can both consider it a final warning.
Hand bags :)
Seems we have a "keen" interest in Zimbabwean international Tino Kadewere. He plays as striker for Zimbabwe and Le Have. Newcastle are also keen and Norwich and Spurs are "interested". BBC so might have legs?The BBC Gossip page. So only quoting a somewhat iffy source.
Rondon would fit into our style of play very well imo, surprised we're not asking the Chinese club he's at what they'd want.
Was available for 16.5m in the summer and miles better than Wes.
Rondon would fit into our style of play very well imo, surprised we're not asking the Chinese club he's at what they'd want.
Was available for 16.5m in the summer and miles better than Wes.
Signing Vida would be loco.
Final Warning. Crikey.
Please accept my humblest apologies. It won't happen again. Hopefully. If it does I'll consider myself banned.
Problem with the ones playing in China is the wages they are on, sure I read when he moved that Fellaini was on over £200k a week. Which is mental.
Problem with the ones playing in China is the wages they are on, sure I read when he moved that Fellaini was on over £200k a week. Which is mental.
It is mental Mr Shin, but he's in for a salary cap of 49k (poor love eh?), so might want out.
Signing Vida would be loco.Oh you kidz😂
Our esteemed friend and his memsahib are in an African game reserve.African Game Reserver
Our esteemed friend and his memsahib are in an African game reserve.African Game Reserver
Roll of Tom Toms. Very good.Our esteemed friend and his memsahib are in an African game reserve.African Game Reserver
Bravo!
Final Warning. Crikey.
Please accept my humblest apologies. It won't happen again. Hopefully. If it does I'll consider myself banned.
You do that, or feel free to use a forum where you'll be exempt from the site rules.
it was always negligent and it will cost us our place in the PL. Smith and half of the useless cnuts bought in the summer out now please.
Rondon is rubbish.
Yeah, I don't want to sign Mitrovic, either.
It is looking increasingly negligent that we made such a hash of our striking options in the summer.
As much fun as the false 9 experiment has been, I’d really like us to get a striker. Preferably two, just in case.
As much fun as the false 9 experiment has been, I’d really like us to get a striker. Preferably two, just in case.
Then we only have to worry about the defence who can't defend ( or run and cross in Taylors case) and the MF who can't tackle ( 4 between them today )
As much fun as the false 9 experiment has been, I’d really like us to get a striker. Preferably two, just in case.We absolutely need two. We needed one when it became clear Wes was not going to be prolific, and now we need two because he's crocked.
pretty much this....it seems odd that they back the manager with a new contract and then " support" him with short term signings like Drinkwater and Reina.......maybe they are expecting us to go down ........once again we as a club have spent a lot of money on dross ...I thought we had learned our lessonsIt is looking increasingly negligent that we made such a hash of our striking options in the summer.
Worse to me we don't even seem in a hurry to fix those issues in this window. Just letting things drift and so we could well lose the six pointers at Brighton and v Watford which dosen't seem a clever thing to do.
As much fun as the false 9 experiment has been, I’d really like us to get a striker. Preferably two, just in case.
Then we only have to worry about the defence who can't defend ( or run and cross in Taylors case) and the MF who can't tackle ( 4 between them today )
We've won two league games very recently with Luiz and Nakamba starting both.
I accept the points but we can win those type of games despite them. However I can't see us winning many games at all if good old false 9 is leading the line so that remains the critical and make or break position.
Most teams get relegated because they can't score many goals. After 15/16 we should've learnt this. We've actually scored more than I thought we would from our early weeks but still in bottom 3 with more than half the season gone so it still remains a massive issue.
As much fun as the false 9 experiment has been, I’d really like us to get a striker. Preferably two, just in case.
Then we only have to worry about the defence who can't defend ( or run and cross in Taylors case) and the MF who can't tackle ( 4 between them today )
We've won two league games very recently with Luiz and Nakamba starting both.
I accept the points but we can win those type of games despite them. However I can't see us winning many games at all if good old false 9 is leading the line so that remains the critical and make or break position.
Most teams get relegated because they can't score many goals. After 15/16 we should've learnt this. We've actually scored more than I thought we would from our early weeks but still in bottom 3 with more than half the season gone so it still remains a massive issue.
AEG didn’t really play as a False 9 today, he played as an actual 9. However, he isn’t a 9.
False 9 to me suggests a fluid formation with various players cropping up where the centre forward would normally be. Villa didn’t do that today.
I guarentee the Striker will be Benteke,another player who has done fuck all the past few years and is currently injured. Pitarch and Smith will be gone in the summer.Won't be Benteke. Someone in the smoking area who knows R O'K told me.
It will be another week of fucking around before something panicky.
Throw money for Piatek and give him a ridiculous buy out clause in the case of relegation.
Then chuck money at Hull for Grosicki to get the ball in to him.
Polish are fighters.
I'd say if we don't have a new striker in by the Watford home game we may as well just pack up and go home.
Buying players from relegated Spanish teams, nearly relegated French and Turkish teams, the Belgian midtable. Trying to be too clever by far. Playing around and we've been caught out. When Man City got serious owners in, within a couple of days they signed Robinho, they meant business. We've signed over priced shit from European bit part teams.
When Man City got serious owners in, within a couple of days they signed Robinho, they meant business.
Probably because neither were in division 2 at the time or had to deal with FFP.
Buying players from relegated Spanish teams, nearly relegated French and Turkish teams, the Belgian midtable. Trying to be too clever by far. Playing around and we've been caught out. When Man City got serious owners in, within a couple of days they signed Robinho, they meant business. We've signed over priced shit from European bit part teams.
Probably because neither were in division 2 at the time or had to deal with FFP.
We weren't in Division 2 this summer.
Probably because neither were in division 2 at the time or had to deal with FFP.
We weren't in Division 2 this summer.
They've spent the thick end of quarter of a billion in 18 months saving this club from fuck knows what future we were facing before they arrived, and yet people call them shit owners. It's ridiculous.They've spent a lot of money, that's undeniable. What they've got to show for it is another question.
They've spent the thick end of quarter of a billion in 18 months saving this club from fuck knows what future we were facing before they arrived, and yet people call them shit owners. It's ridiculous.They've spent a lot of money, that's undeniable. What they've got to show for it is another question.
No it certainly doesn't. They'll be judged on where we are when they leave.They've spent the thick end of quarter of a billion in 18 months saving this club from fuck knows what future we were facing before they arrived, and yet people call them shit owners. It's ridiculous.They've spent a lot of money, that's undeniable. What they've got to show for it is another question.
Which doesn't make them shit owners.
Dean's post match comments don't make me overly optimistic we're signing anyone.
Dean's post match comments don't make me overly optimistic we're signing anyone.
I know. Just listened. Now incredibly concerned.
Dean's post match comments don't make me overly optimistic we're signing anyone.
I know. Just listened. Now incredibly concerned.
Gedson going to Spurs. Is Wanyama any good? Has Prem experience.
Dean's post match comments don't make me overly optimistic we're signing anyone.
I know. Just listened. Now incredibly concerned.
I thought the same, and even worse, he was clearly labelling Suso as the man recruiting.....I think he’s a bit pissed off he’s not got whole say on transfers anyway...... maybe it wasn’t him who wanted Wesley and some others either ?
Perfect. Get him in
Dean's post match comments don't make me overly optimistic we're signing anyone.
I know. Just listened. Now incredibly concerned.
I thought the same, and even worse, he was clearly labelling Suso as the man recruiting.....I think he’s a bit pissed off he’s not got whole say on transfers anyway...... maybe it wasn’t him who wanted Wesley and some others either ?
We need to bring in two new strikers and hope at least one of them hits the ground running. I wouldn't mind Benteke being one of them as I think he would gel with Wesley, but we couldn't put all our hopes on him given that he has scored a ratio of one goal every five games at Palace. Press rumours suggest we are after Benteke but that may well be just be a lazy guess.
Current wages according to Spotrac.
https://www.spotrac.com/epl/aston-villa-f.c/payroll/
Tom Heaton - (£2.184m/£42k)
Henri Lansbury - (£2.08m/£40k)
Jack Grealish - (£1.82m/£35k)
Jonathan Kodija - (£1.82m/£35k)
Matt Targett - (£1.82m/£35k)
Neil Taylor - (£1.664m/£32k)
Anwar El Ghazi - (£1.61m/£30.9k)
James Chester - (£1.56m/£30k)
Conor Hourihane - (£1.56m/£30k)
Ahmed Elmohamady - (£1.3m/£25k)
Jota - (£1.3m/£25k)
John McGinn - (£1.3m/£25k)
Tyrone Mings - (£1.3m/£25k)
Orjan Nyland - (£1.04m/£20k)
Scott Hogan - (£910k guaranteed salary) - on loan at Stoke City
Lovre Kalinic - (£817k/£15.7k)
James Bree - (£520k guaranteed salary) - on loan at Luton Town
Kortney Hause - (£416k/£8k)
Ezri Konsa - (£416k/£8k)
Jed Steer - (£416k/£8k)
Andre Green - (£312k guaranteed salary) - on loan at Charlton Athletic
Keinan Davis - (£260k/£5k)
Total wage bill - (£25.983m/£499.67k)
No data for: Bjorn Engels, Frederic Guilbert, Trezeguet, Douglas Luiz, Wesley, Marvelous Nakamba, Rushian Hepburn-Murphy.
I thought a few looked dubious when I saw it but a quick Google seemed to indicate Spotrac are fairly reliable.How long has Lansbury got on his contract?
I thought a few looked dubious when I saw it but a quick Google seemed to indicate Spotrac are fairly reliable.How long has Lansbury got on his contract?
Quite simply, if we dont get 2 attacking players in this week ready for the Brighton/Watford games then we deserve to go down. Its utterly negligent its got to this pointNot sure even that will be enough.
Quite simply, if we dont get 2 attacking players in this week ready for the Brighton/Watford games then we deserve to go down. Its utterly negligent its got to this pointNot sure even that will be enough.
My concern remains defensive midfield, team selection and tactics.Quite simply, if we dont get 2 attacking players in this week ready for the Brighton/Watford games then we deserve to go down. Its utterly negligent its got to this pointNot sure even that will be enough.
It will. Yesterday we missed an outlet, El Ghazi tried on his own but isn’t really that type of player and certainly not the quality against Man City.
Quite simply, if we dont get 2 attacking players in this week ready for the Brighton/Watford games then we deserve to go down. Its utterly negligent its got to this point
Quite simply, if we dont get 2 attacking players in this week ready for the Brighton/Watford games then we deserve to go down. Its utterly negligent its got to this point
Any transfer whispers to cheer us up?!
Quite simply, if we dont get 2 attacking players in this week ready for the Brighton/Watford games then we deserve to go down. Its utterly negligent its got to this point
Quite simply, if we dont get 2 attacking players in this week ready for the Brighton/Watford games then we deserve to go down. Its utterly negligent its got to this point
I am pissed off with them all.
It's almost Remi Garde levels of hanging Smith out to dry
We need at least 2 strikers - get in Benrahma and Benteke and we give ourselves a chance.I agree but apparently Benteke has wrong stats according to P&P brothers.
I'm guessing the striker they thought they'd have by the city game was Giroud or Murray?Quite simply, if we dont get 2 attacking players in this week ready for the Brighton/Watford games then we deserve to go down. Its utterly negligent its got to this point
Any transfer whispers to cheer us up?!
Worryingly, heard nothing is remotely close
Remi Garde spent £130 million less than Dean Smith has already. Even Josef Venglos was allowed to buy Ivo Stas.
Straw poll - would you accept Piatek on the 30 January for £30m or Murray tomorrow?
Decent players are unlikely to move at this point in the window so we will have to wait, I fear, to get decent quality.
My concern remains defensive midfield, team selection and tactics.Quite simply, if we dont get 2 attacking players in this week ready for the Brighton/Watford games then we deserve to go down. Its utterly negligent its got to this pointNot sure even that will be enough.
It will. Yesterday we missed an outlet, El Ghazi tried on his own but isn’t really that type of player and certainly not the quality against Man City.
Remi Garde spent £130 million less than Dean Smith has already. Even Josef Venglos was allowed to buy Ivo Stas.
We drew 0-0 at home to City under Remi Garde!
Dean's post match comments don't make me overly optimistic we're signing anyone.
I know. Just listened. Now incredibly concerned.
I thought the same, and even worse, he was clearly labelling Suso as the man recruiting.....I think he’s a bit pissed off he’s not got whole say on transfers anyway...... maybe it wasn’t him who wanted Wesley and some others either ?
Dean's post match comments don't make me overly optimistic we're signing anyone.
I know. Just listened. Now incredibly concerned.
I thought the same, and even worse, he was clearly labelling Suso as the man recruiting.....I think he’s a bit pissed off he’s not got whole say on transfers anyway...... maybe it wasn’t him who wanted Wesley and some others either ?
So he is morphing into a Paul Sherwood? Talks utter bollocks, and had no say in the players recruited.
Who would want to join this shambles for the right reasons?
LA Galaxy signing Javier Hernandez for 7m from Sevilla.
Probably agreed he wants to go there but shows not all decent strikers will cost 40m this window.
He’ll do well in MLS. Plenty of goals to be had. It’s where once good players go for one more very good pay day.
He’ll do well in MLS. Plenty of goals to be had. It’s where once good players go for one more very good pay day.He will sell a few shirts in LA.
A young lad with a 1 in 6 record at one of the better 2nd division sides and a bloke who hasn't got to grips with English football. Hmmm. I want better rumours.
Why would we get a points deduction if we are relegated?
Based on what?
TheWhy would we get a points deduction if we are relegated?
The EFL are adamant we breached ffp and are chomping at the bit to give us a points deduction for it(sale of villa park).
They would love nothing better than to make an example of us if we drop
Don’t fucking kid yourself. He was involved in all player recruitment decisions. There’s lots on record where they all sat as a group and decided the path forward. He hasn’t improved the players we’ve bought. We’ve chopped and changed the one system he knows for the great majority of the season with the exception of playing the one CF we bought who’s now done. He stumbled upon a 3 CB formation for Burnley. I’m sure he didn’t want to do it, but we got the win and it worked again at Leicester. He then sends us out to play anti possession, deep defensive against one the top teams in the world and we got battered.
The answer to the majority of your issues is in the mirror Dean. You’ve been backed very well and paid well to do your job.
Absolutely. It's not over and we can improve. It does look unlikely at the moment as the trajectory has been downard for a while now, but it's not impossible.
We do need to win some games soon though. And really soon. The record against the top half is atrocious (1 point from 11 played v the top 10). We've played a disproportionate amount against the lower half and have 3 six-pointers in a row now. If we don't get 2 wins from those (ideally against Bounremouth and Watford) we will be leaving ourselves short for the final games.
Hopefully Reina can bring some belief back and we can defend well. I do genuinely think any CF who can hold the ball up will make a massive difference, just getting us 5 yards further up the pitch would make big difference to a midfield that is constantly squeezed back.
Absolutely. It's not over and we can improve.I totally agree. Relegation is still avoidable and the players are capable of more than they showing but I just think that such an improvement is more likely to come from a new manager. That's not an 'I hate Smith' remark, it's pragmatic.
Let’s not forget Citeh isn’t an isolated poor display. We were dreadful for most of December. We need some fairly fundamental improvement, with quality up top. One of the absolutely key things is getting hold of, and using, the ball much better.
Let’s not forget Citeh isn’t an isolated poor display. We were dreadful for most of December. We need some fairly fundamental improvement, with quality up top. One of the absolutely key things is getting hold of, and using, the ball much better.
As much as we need strikers, I wouldn't complain if we added a new face to our coaching staff.
In 2013, Yacouba Sylla rather bizarrely improved our team. Sometimes, a particular kind of player can just add a bit of muscle that can give others a platform.
I don't think it applies to forwards though, we do need somebody of quality up front. Even just a good target man to hold it up.
Good idea. Dean can then concentrate on the window!
Good idea. Dean can then concentrate on the window!
I think his is the role we need to replace on the coaching team!
So when is Keenan Davis supposed to be fit by?
Man U supposedly after a midfielder called Bruno Fernandes for £60 million. Is he a similar player to either Grealish or McGinn?SSN had a thing on him earlier today. He scores buckets of goals for Sporting.
Man U supposedly after a midfielder called Bruno Fernandes for £60 million. Is he a similar player to either Grealish or McGinn?
I've no recollection of him playing for Swansea. Vaguely remember he was at Tottenham.He got 15 in 33 for Swansea.
I've no recollection of him playing for Swansea. Vaguely remember he was at Tottenham.He got 15 in 33 for Swansea.
I've no recollection of him playing for Swansea. Vaguely remember he was at Tottenham.
He got 15 in 33 for Swansea.
José Callejon and Fernando Llorente are targets for Aston Villa. Jesus Garcìa Pitarch is in contact with the players agents.
32 is not old.
José Callejon and Fernando Llorente are targets for Aston Villa. Jesus Garcìa Pitarch is in contact with the players agents.
Llorente is as mobile as a block of flats but it’s better than our other options.
The Callejon link is interesting as Napoli are in turmoil and basically looking to overhaul their squad and by the same token Sporting Lisbon are in financial strife.
Which wont be good enough as 3 of our easiest fixtures will be over with by then and we will have gifted the teams around us 3 points. Pathetic January so far. A plodder has been and another Keeper, an old man.
Llorente is as mobile as a block of flats but it’s better than our other options.
The Callejon link is interesting as Napoli are in turmoil and basically looking to overhaul their squad and by the same token Sporting Lisbon are in financial strife.
Bolasie is on loan at Sporting!
32 is not old.
I think we need to have a little patience and faith in the board that they are working on deals. The likes of Nakmaba, Konza and Wesley (and even Mcginn, I think) came in totally under the radar. There's no reason to think that won't happen again although it is harder in January.
What we wouldn't give for a player like John Carew.Nah. Dean Saunders type would do us wonders now.
Even a Savo right now
Hard hat on ,we’ve loaned a striker to Stoke who can’t get into their squad he cost shed loads and had previously been coached at Brentford, whys he not been recalled ?desperate times desperate measures.
He's not even that good CdwbfHard hat on ,we’ve loaned a striker to Stoke who can’t get into their squad he cost shed loads and had previously been coached at Brentford, whys he not been recalled ?desperate times desperate measures.
Because he's shit, mate.
Need to pay the big bucks like when signed Bent.Agreed, a proven goalscorer costs money. If we don't get one we are down
Need to pay the big bucks like when signed Bent.
Need to pay the big bucks like when signed Bent.
Alleged to have made a big bucks offer for Piatek which suits Milan, but he’s waiting on a move from Tottenham. This is the main issue with these big moves and the reason they won’t happen until late in the window.
Can someone with IT skills add a countdown clock to the title on this thread so I can get more and more depressed as we fail to make signings.Best I can do (https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/soccer?iso=20200131T23&p0=297&msg=Villa%21+Sign+someone+before&font=sanserif&csz=1)
Good effort mate.Can someone with IT skills add a countdown clock to the title on this thread so I can get more and more depressed as we fail to make signings.Best I can do (https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/soccer?iso=20200131T23&p0=297&msg=Villa%21+Sign+someone+before&font=sanserif&csz=1)
Eighteen days still. That's almost yonks.
Need to pay the big bucks like when signed Bent.
Alleged to have made a big bucks offer for Piatek which suits Milan, but he’s waiting on a move from Tottenham. This is the main issue with these big moves and the reason they won’t happen until late in the window.
Can someone with IT skills add a countdown clock to the title on this thread so I can get more and more depressed as we fail to make signings.Best I can do (https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/soccer?iso=20200131T23&p0=297&msg=Villa%21+Sign+someone+before&font=sanserif&csz=1)
I can't help but think we've missed our last chance to see Zlatan wearing our colours. He'd have sorted this shit out.He is an asshole, treats his teammates like shit and i would not want to see him in a villa shirt.
José Callejon and Fernando Llorente are targets for Aston Villa. Jesus Garcìa Pitarch is in contact with the players agents.
Callejon is 32 that's old for a winger who relies on speed and would need time to adapt to the speed of the premiership, I would leave that one alone, I see James Milners contract finishes this year, just saying.
Savo was great. Not someone to be joked about.Loved Savo.
Savo was great. Not someone to be joked about.Loved Savo.
Yarmolenko will be allowed to leave on loan accoridng to reports. I think we should definitely go for him. Can play up front although he is injured ubtil end of month.
I know its talkshite what they have just announced a exclusive that we are on verge of signing benteke on loan.
Personally think if true id be happy as he looks low on confidence but the fans love him here so he wont ahve that negative cloud around him like he has at palace
Yarmolenko will be allowed to leave on loan accoridng to reports. I think we should definitely go for him. Can play up front although he is injured ubtil end of month.wont his bike make a mess of the pitch
Yes, it's a terrible time to sign players. August wasn't, though. We should have brought in a bloody striker. Our lack of striking options are of our own making.
Injured or not, in for him or not, it's interesting looking at the stats on Benteke's time at Palace and I remain in the undecided but 'kin hell hurry up and sign a striker camp.
When Pardew signed The Beast from 'The Mighty Reds YNWA', Palace were averaging over 200 crosses a season & Benteke thrived.
Woy changed the way Palace play to centre around Zaha, Palace now average around 60 crosses a season.
And you wonder why he's struggled under Woy, that said, I wonder how many crosses we manage a season?
When Pardew signed The Beast from 'The Mighty Reds YNWA', Palace were averaging over 200 crosses a season & Benteke thrived.
Woy changed the way Palace play to centre around Zaha, Palace now average around 60 crosses a season.
And you wonder why he's struggled under Woy, that said, I wonder how many crosses we manage a season?
When Pardew signed The Beast from 'The Mighty Reds YNWA', Palace were averaging over 200 crosses a season & Benteke thrived.
Woy changed the way Palace play to centre around Zaha, Palace now average around 60 crosses a season.
And you wonder why he's struggled under Woy, that said, I wonder how many crosses we manage a season?
Those stats can’t be correct can they? Even if it means successful/completed crosses, only managing 1.5 per game seems ridiculously low.
I’m sure I remember Man United attempting something like seventy/eighty in one game under Moyes once.
And to think a few of those are still earning a living from football.
Benteke's been linked to Spurs hasn't he?
Benteke's been linked to Spurs hasn't he?Only linked in as much as his agent has been in touch with them.
According the BBC site (yes I know ….) Spurs are looking at the same players we have been linked with ……...I cant see Levy paying big bucks so its up to us prove we are a "big club" with ambitions
According the BBC site (yes I know ….) Spurs are looking at the same players we have been linked with ……...I cant see Levy paying big bucks so its up to us prove we are a "big club" with ambitions
Benteke's been linked to Spurs hasn't he?
Everybody we've been linked with has also been linked to Spurs.
The injury to Kane is another complicating factor in our recruitment drive.
With the striker issues surprised we haven’t brought Hepburn-Murphy back from loan, not sure if he is injured at the mo?
With the striker issues surprised we haven’t brought Hepburn-Murphy back from loan, not sure if he is injured at the mo?
With the striker issues surprised we haven’t brought Hepburn-Murphy back from loan, not sure if he is injured at the mo?
Or he's not actually good enough which is why he was sent out in the first place/
The Mirror linking us with Steven Nzonzi who has had a fallout at Galatasaray.
He's 31. Roma paid 27m euros for hin in Aug-18 and loaned him out a year later.
Sounds very unlikelyy to me as surely we're beyond saddling ourselves with big contracts on ageing players, but short term he could be very useful in shoring us up in midfield.
Nzonzi would walk in to this side.
To lose your best central midfield player, striker and keeper for half a season is as unlucky as it gets really.
With the striker issues surprised we haven’t brought Hepburn-Murphy back from loan, not sure if he is injured at the mo?
The Mirror linking us with Steven Nzonzi who has had a fallout at Galatasaray.
He's 31. Roma paid 27m euros for hin in Aug-18 and loaned him out a year later.
Sounds very unlikelyy to me as surely we're beyond saddling ourselves with big contracts on ageing players, but short term he could be very useful in shoring us up in midfield.
He'd be a decent upgrade if we are thinking about replacing Driinkwater.
The Mirror linking us with Steven Nzonzi who has had a fallout at Galatasaray.
He's 31. Roma paid 27m euros for hin in Aug-18 and loaned him out a year later.
Sounds very unlikelyy to me as surely we're beyond saddling ourselves with big contracts on ageing players, but short term he could be very useful in shoring us up in midfield.
He'd be a decent upgrade if we are thinking about replacing Driinkwater.
Can’t beat writing off a player after 1 game against the 2nd best side in the country :-)
The Mirror linking us with Steven Nzonzi who has had a fallout at Galatasaray.
He's 31. Roma paid 27m euros for hin in Aug-18 and loaned him out a year later.
Sounds very unlikelyy to me as surely we're beyond saddling ourselves with big contracts on ageing players, but short term he could be very useful in shoring us up in midfield.
He'd be a decent upgrade if we are thinking about replacing Driinkwater.
Can’t beat writing off a player after 1 game against the 2nd best side in the country :-)
Just joking!
No forward has done well there under Hodgson really. He bought some guy Sorloth that flopped aswell. Ayew does a good job for them without scoring much either. The likes of Zaha and Townsend are shoot on sight merchants.Sørloth has scored 12 in 17 games this season on loan for Trabzonspor. Although he didn’t pull up any trees in the EPL, we don’t have a striking option out on loan at anything like that level. Mind you, Hogan cost us significantly more than they spent on him.
i think we don't have a pot to piss in worth speaking of which is going to see us loan in as many as we can, due to being right on the FFP limit. I want to be proved wrong, but the two signings thus far point that way.
With the striker issues surprised we haven’t brought Hepburn-Murphy back from loan, not sure if he is injured at the mo?
He might not be injured now but he would be as soon as walks through the doors of Bodymoor
i think we don't have a pot to piss in worth speaking of which is going to see us loan in as many as we can, due to being right on the FFP limit. I want to be proved wrong, but the two signings thus far point that way.
Or they point to the fact that 2 straight-forward loan deals for players that aren't needed at their current clubs and with no real competition takes a lot less time and effort than signing someone who his club don't want to sell without a replacement or who has numerous offers or who the club and trying to push the price up for.
The entire league has seen 7 players come in to premier league clubs, 4 loans, 1 signing of an out of contract player and 1 kid moving to the Everton reserves and 1 actual signing with an actual fee (of about half a million). It's that simple, no one does any meaningful business in the first half of this window. We might see a couple of decent deals later this week but more likely it'll stay quiet for another 7-10 days and then we'll get a rush of activity in the last week or so.
i think we don't have a pot to piss in worth speaking of which is going to see us loan in as many as we can, due to being right on the FFP limit. I want to be proved wrong, but the two signings thus far point that way.
Or they point to the fact that 2 straight-forward loan deals for players that aren't needed at their current clubs and with no real competition takes a lot less time and effort than signing someone who his club don't want to sell without a replacement or who has numerous offers or who the club and trying to push the price up for.
The entire league has seen 7 players come in to premier league clubs, 4 loans, 1 signing of an out of contract player and 1 kid moving to the Everton reserves and 1 actual signing with an actual fee (of about half a million). It's that simple, no one does any meaningful business in the first half of this window. We might see a couple of decent deals later this week but more likely it'll stay quiet for another 7-10 days and then we'll get a rush of activity in the last week or so.
At which point it might be too late. Smith himself said that there are a lot of games in January, so that it was important to do business early.
With the striker issues surprised we haven’t brought Hepburn-Murphy back from loan, not sure if he is injured at the mo?
He might not be injured now but he would be as soon as walks through the doors of Bodymoor
With our luck, he'd probably walk into them.
i think we don't have a pot to piss in worth speaking of which is going to see us loan in as many as we can, due to being right on the FFP limit. I want to be proved wrong, but the two signings thus far point that way.
Or they point to the fact that 2 straight-forward loan deals for players that aren't needed at their current clubs and with no real competition takes a lot less time and effort than signing someone who his club don't want to sell without a replacement or who has numerous offers or who the club and trying to push the price up for.
The entire league has seen 7 players come in to premier league clubs, 4 loans, 1 signing of an out of contract player and 1 kid moving to the Everton reserves and 1 actual signing with an actual fee (of about half a million). It's that simple, no one does any meaningful business in the first half of this window. We might see a couple of decent deals later this week but more likely it'll stay quiet for another 7-10 days and then we'll get a rush of activity in the last week or so.
At which point it might be too late. Smith himself said that there are a lot of games in January, so that it was important to do business early.
If nothing is close on a forward or 2 and Kodja is still "poorly", surely they should be recalling RHM and /or Hogan now, if only to loan out again late in the window when hopefully we have done the business on signings? or am I just being too pragmatic and obvious?
With the striker issues surprised we haven’t brought Hepburn-Murphy back from loan, not sure if he is injured at the mo?
He might not be injured now but he would be as soon as walks through the doors of Bodymoor
Is this the Hepburn-Murphy who struggles to get in the first eleven at Tranmere?
With our luck, he'd probably walk into them.
I still think that of our loaned players, if he isnt injured should come back. Shocking that we havent.
The Russian scored a hat-trick not long back but I think he might be injured again. I stand correct though. He actually looked lively in pre-season and looked liked he'd bulked himself up a bit.
As the time ticks on we get closer and closer to Saturday , going in to that game with no striker will be fucking criminal and serious questions need to be asked of the people running the clubThe 'offence' was committed way back in the summer going with just one striker, and a hunch at that. We needed at least one and probably two strikers even before Wesley got injured, so goodness knows what has been going on in recruitment for the last 5 months.
As the time ticks on we get closer and closer to Saturday , going in to that game with no striker will be fucking criminal and serious questions need to be asked of the people running the club
That's what we need, a few suspensions in midfield!
Only joking. I'd love us to get Nzonzi (and I wouldn't mind Benteke). We won't get Nzonzi though.
What's happened to the Louie Barry deal??
Bizarre he went there in the 1st place. I presume his agent knew how these clubs operate with young foreign players? Must have been "compensated" well in wages though.
Bizarre he went there in the 1st place. I presume his agent knew how these clubs operate with young foreign players? Must have been "compensated" well in wages though.
Bizarre he went there in the 1st place. I presume his agent knew how these clubs operate with young foreign players? Must have been "compensated" well in wages though.
According to the baggies Fans it was all a conspiracy between us and Barca to get him to Villa without having to pay the compensation to them. Because that’s just the conniving thing the Vile would do 😂
N'Zonzi is a nice idea although it would leave us a bit overloaded with center midfielders.
Bizarre he went there in the 1st place. I presume his agent knew how these clubs operate with young foreign players? Must have been "compensated" well in wages though.
Do you mean Lewie Barry going to Barcelona? If so, he's not foreign, they are. They're based in Catalonia in Spain.
Bizarre he went there in the 1st place. I presume his agent knew how these clubs operate with young foreign players? Must have been "compensated" well in wages though.
Do you mean Lewie Barry going to Barcelona? If so, he's not foreign, they are. They're based in Catalonia in Spain.
heh. Technically the Catalonians believe they are not in Spain
N'Zonzi is a nice idea although it would leave us a bit overloaded with center midfielders.
I'm not sure I'd want us to sign him. Think I'd have panic sweats seeing the N'Zo on the teamsheet and think the Zog was back in his floral print suit.
Nzonzi is exactly the type of player we need, if he could get back to near his best.
also be nice to have opposition complaining about rough treatment from one of our players for a change.Nzonzi is exactly the type of player we need, if he could get back to near his best.
Even at 70% would be an improvement on what we have, and give the other players a lift. Good signing if true.
N'Zonzi is a nice idea although it would leave us a bit overloaded with center midfielders.
Is this N'Zonzi link actually credible, because he's only been at Galatasaray since August. I mean is it a season loan because i doubt whether we can persuade them to rip up the agreement unless we buy him
It wasn't meant to be like this, here's hoping they will pull a rabbit out of the hat tomorrow.Make that Bunny McCarthy then ;)
Is this N'Zonzi link actually credible, because he's only been at Galatasaray since August. I mean is it a season loan because i doubt whether we can persuade them to rip up the agreement unless we buy him
Had a bust up with them in training and been suspended according to the papers.
It wasn't meant to be like this, here's hoping they will pull a rabbit out of the hat tomorrow.
It wasn't meant to be like this, here's hoping they will pull a rabbit out of the hat tomorrow.
We don't need any more rabbits in midfield 😀
What about O'Hare?
or Warren BartonIt wasn't meant to be like this, here's hoping they will pull a rabbit out of the hat tomorrow.
We don't need any more rabbits in midfield 😀
What about O'Hare?
If aged French players are on our agenda we should have a butchers at J-P Lapin, see if he's still game.
Nzonzi is exactly the type of player we need, if he could get back to near his best.
Just because we are desperate for a quality centre forward doesn't mean we should ignore the powder puff midfield we are operating with.
Is this N'Zonzi link actually credible, because he's only been at Galatasaray since August. I mean is it a season loan because i doubt whether we can persuade them to rip up the agreement unless we buy him
Had a bust up with them in training and been suspended according to the papers.
still looks bang average
I shudder when I see any player in a Villa line up with a name starting with the letters NZO.
So of our loanees why havent they been recalled? Is it the club have forgotten about them or they dont want to return back to villa?Maybe the club don't think they're good enough?
Hogan
O'Hare
RHM
So of our loanees why havent they been recalled? Is it the club have forgotten about them or they dont want to return back to villa?Maybe the club don't think they're good enough?
Hogan
O'Hare
RHM
Vida, N'Zonzi and Slimani all look like tough buggers who would be up for the scrap. Certainly would push our average height up a little.I don't like the look of that team at all. Hause's distribution is terrible right now. Drinkwater is way off the pace and according to Garry Thompson on WM yesterday Reina looked like a tub of lard when he saw him play recently. I am up for Nzonzi though and i think he would give us some much needed bite but out of our choices i'd have to stick with either Nkamba or Luiz in mf.Reina
Vida - Mings - Hause
Guilbert - N'Zonzi - Drinkwater - Targett
El Ghazi - Slimani - Jack
What is the point in having them if they can't get into the 1st team with NO fit striker? Sell them or release them.So of our loanees why havent they been recalled? Is it the club have forgotten about them or they dont want to return back to villa?Maybe the club don't think they're good enough?
Hogan
O'Hare
RHM
Could be, and maybe they couldnt cope with the other forwards here.... oh we dont have any ::)
Maybe I think it is short-sighted not to recall at least RHM
If the club thought any of those players we're either good enough or ready for it they would have recalled them asap. The fact that they haven't tells you all you need to know.So of our loanees why havent they been recalled? Is it the club have forgotten about them or they dont want to return back to villa?Maybe the club don't think they're good enough?
Hogan
O'Hare
RHM
Could be, and maybe they couldnt cope with the other forwards here.... oh we dont have any ::)
Maybe I think it is short-sighted not to recall at least RHM
Vida, N'Zonzi and Slimani all look like tough buggers who would be up for the scrap. Certainly would push our average height up a little.I don't like the look of that team at all. Hause's distribution is terrible right now. Drinkwater is way off the pace and according to Garry Thompson on WM yesterday Reina looked like a tub of lard when he saw him play recently. I am up for Nzonzi though and i think he would give us some much needed bite but out of our choices i'd have to stick with either Nkamba or Luiz in mf.Reina
Vida - Mings - Hause
Guilbert - N'Zonzi - Drinkwater - Targett
El Ghazi - Slimani - Jack
My birthday today .... Avfc please can I have a striker or 2 to celebrate ?
I shudder when I see a Villa player whose name begins with Drink. And a battering ram centre forward whose name begins with Slim. Is there a wide man called Chance we can team him up with?Given that 'Slimani' comes from 'Suleiman', which means 'man of peace' this would enable us to give 'Peace' a 'Chance'. And that is surely what we need at the Villa.
Nope. We need a fit striker. One that actually scores, preferably.I shudder when I see a Villa player whose name begins with Drink. And a battering ram centre forward whose name begins with Slim. Is there a wide man called Chance we can team him up with?Given that 'Slimani' comes from 'Suleiman', which means 'man of peace' this would enable us to give 'Peace' a 'Chance'. And that is surely what we need at the Villa.
I shudder when I see a Villa player whose name begins with Drink. And a battering ram centre forward whose name begins with Slim. Is there a wide man called Chance we can team him up with?Given that 'Slimani' comes from 'Suleiman', which means 'man of peace' this would enable us to give 'Peace' a 'Chance'. And that is surely what we need at the Villa.
Ok maybe he didn't see him playing. I might of misheard him. It was along the lines of "last time i saw him he looked like Pepe Reina had eaten Pepe Reina". Don't know why Garry Thompson ex-Villa player who seems to have an affection for the club would make that up.Vida, N'Zonzi and Slimani all look like tough buggers who would be up for the scrap. Certainly would push our average height up a little.I don't like the look of that team at all. Hause's distribution is terrible right now. Drinkwater is way off the pace and according to Garry Thompson on WM yesterday Reina looked like a tub of lard when he saw him play recently. I am up for Nzonzi though and i think he would give us some much needed bite but out of our choices i'd have to stick with either Nkamba or Luiz in mf.Reina
Vida - Mings - Hause
Guilbert - N'Zonzi - Drinkwater - Targett
El Ghazi - Slimani - Jack
As much as I like Thompson and as much as I doubt the conditioning of a 37 year old goalie who has barely played in years, I very much doubt Garry Thompson saw Reina play away against Genoa in October and paid particular notice to his physical condition.
File under hype and bullshit.
Ok maybe he didn't see him playing. I might of misheard him. It was along the lines of "last time i saw him he looked like Pepe Reina had eaten Pepe Reina". Don't know why Garry Thompson ex-Villa player who seems to have an affection for the club would make that up.Vida, N'Zonzi and Slimani all look like tough buggers who would be up for the scrap. Certainly would push our average height up a little.I don't like the look of that team at all. Hause's distribution is terrible right now. Drinkwater is way off the pace and according to Garry Thompson on WM yesterday Reina looked like a tub of lard when he saw him play recently. I am up for Nzonzi though and i think he would give us some much needed bite but out of our choices i'd have to stick with either Nkamba or Luiz in mf.Reina
Vida - Mings - Hause
Guilbert - N'Zonzi - Drinkwater - Targett
El Ghazi - Slimani - Jack
As much as I like Thompson and as much as I doubt the conditioning of a 37 year old goalie who has barely played in years, I very much doubt Garry Thompson saw Reina play away against Genoa in October and paid particular notice to his physical condition.
File under hype and bullshit.
I really hope he is wrong and/or bullshitting but i definitely heard him say it on last nights show.A fit Pepe Reina will be a fantastic asset in our fight to beat the drop.Ok maybe he didn't see him playing. I might of misheard him. It was along the lines of "last time i saw him he looked like Pepe Reina had eaten Pepe Reina". Don't know why Garry Thompson ex-Villa player who seems to have an affection for the club would make that up.Vida, N'Zonzi and Slimani all look like tough buggers who would be up for the scrap. Certainly would push our average height up a little.I don't like the look of that team at all. Hause's distribution is terrible right now. Drinkwater is way off the pace and according to Garry Thompson on WM yesterday Reina looked like a tub of lard when he saw him play recently. I am up for Nzonzi though and i think he would give us some much needed bite but out of our choices i'd have to stick with either Nkamba or Luiz in mf.Reina
Vida - Mings - Hause
Guilbert - N'Zonzi - Drinkwater - Targett
El Ghazi - Slimani - Jack
As much as I like Thompson and as much as I doubt the conditioning of a 37 year old goalie who has barely played in years, I very much doubt Garry Thompson saw Reina play away against Genoa in October and paid particular notice to his physical condition.
File under hype and bullshit.
No idea. But unless Villa have done extensive photoshop work on the photos and videos of Reina's signing, Garry Thompson ex-Villa player needs a new pair of glasses.
Was it definitely "fit", not "fat"?"fat"
If we line up against Brighton without a striker, any kind of bloody striker, I'll be very worried. I'd even start Vassilev if we had to.
A loan offer to Leicester for Slim Shady.
I wish we'd get a whole lot quicker too. There's barely any pace in our side.A loan offer to Leicester for Slim Shady.
He's 6'2 and N'Zonzi is 6'5. Apparently we are trying to get a little taller
I wish we'd get a whole lot quicker too. There's barely any pace in our side.A loan offer to Leicester for Slim Shady.
He's 6'2 and N'Zonzi is 6'5. Apparently we are trying to get a little taller
I wish we'd get a whole lot quicker too. There's barely any pace in our side.A loan offer to Leicester for Slim Shady.
He's 6'2 and N'Zonzi is 6'5. Apparently we are trying to get a little taller
Pace remains an issue, but I find speed of thought and positional/tactical awareness and inteligence every bit as important. We massively struggle in those areas
Reina - loan
Drinkwater - loan
N'Zonzi - loan to buy?
Benteke - Loan to buy back?
Llorente - Loan
** would like a pacey winger as well but that maybe pushing it
I would not be too unhappy with that.
Cannot see the point of spunking a load of cash on buying players now if we could be relegated
Loan some talent / experience to get us safe and then build again in the summer seems to me the most sensible thing to do and cost effective in wages for FFP
** would like a pacey winger as well but that maybe pushing it
I really hope he is wrong and/or bullshitting but i definitely heard him say it on last nights show.A fit Pepe Reina will be a fantastic asset in our fight to beat the drop.Ok maybe he didn't see him playing. I might of misheard him. It was along the lines of "last time i saw him he looked like Pepe Reina had eaten Pepe Reina". Don't know why Garry Thompson ex-Villa player who seems to have an affection for the club would make that up.Vida, N'Zonzi and Slimani all look like tough buggers who would be up for the scrap. Certainly would push our average height up a little.I don't like the look of that team at all. Hause's distribution is terrible right now. Drinkwater is way off the pace and according to Garry Thompson on WM yesterday Reina looked like a tub of lard when he saw him play recently. I am up for Nzonzi though and i think he would give us some much needed bite but out of our choices i'd have to stick with either Nkamba or Luiz in mf.Reina
Vida - Mings - Hause
Guilbert - N'Zonzi - Drinkwater - Targett
El Ghazi - Slimani - Jack
As much as I like Thompson and as much as I doubt the conditioning of a 37 year old goalie who has barely played in years, I very much doubt Garry Thompson saw Reina play away against Genoa in October and paid particular notice to his physical condition.
File under hype and bullshit.
No idea. But unless Villa have done extensive photoshop work on the photos and videos of Reina's signing, Garry Thompson ex-Villa player needs a new pair of glasses.
He will help them claw their way to safety.
It's the thought of getting my Benteke shirt out of the pawnshop Olly.
Do their owners still own Udinese? If they do it's not a surprise as that's where he is joining them from.** would like a pacey winger as well but that maybe pushing it
Watford have just bought one for £7m. Pussetto, Argentinian lad playing in Italy.
He will help them claw their way to safety.I still think we should have put in a big offer for Tabby Abraham
Do their owners still own Udinese? If they do it's not a surprise as that's where he is joining them from.** would like a pacey winger as well but that maybe pushing it
Watford have just bought one for £7m. Pussetto, Argentinian lad playing in Italy.
I think timing ultimately did for us and Traore. He was at the club at a poor time.
But he is an illustration of why leaping to judgement with young players can be a mistake. He also demonstrates the benefits of good coaching.
Must be some traction in the Nzonzi rumours as most media outlets are running the story
I shudder when I see a Villa player whose name begins with Drink. And a battering ram centre forward whose name begins with Slim. Is there a wide man called Chance we can team him up with?Given that 'Slimani' comes from 'Suleiman', which means 'man of peace' this would enable us to give 'Peace' a 'Chance'. And that is surely what we need at the Villa.
Well our last piece of silverware was the Peace Cup.
Must be some traction in the Nzonzi rumours as most media outlets are running the story
Hope so. Give us some steel.
Gastón Pereiro: “PSV told me that they have already come to an agreement with Cincinnati. I told my representative that if there is a chance to stay in Europe I prefer that. He is working on an offer from Aston Villa.” [@Sport890] #avfc
I shudder when I see a Villa player whose name begins with Drink. And a battering ram centre forward whose name begins with Slim. Is there a wide man called Chance we can team him up with?Given that 'Slimani' comes from 'Suleiman', which means 'man of peace' this would enable us to give 'Peace' a 'Chance'. And that is surely what we need at the Villa.
I shudder when I see a Villa player whose name begins with Drink. And a battering ram centre forward whose name begins with Slim. Is there a wide man called Chance we can team him up with?Given that 'Slimani' comes from 'Suleiman', which means 'man of peace' this would enable us to give 'Peace' a 'Chance'. And that is surely what we need at the Villa.
Oh bugger, it’s Dusty Bin isn’t it?
Excellent, exactly what's neededI shudder when I see a Villa player whose name begins with Drink. And a battering ram centre forward whose name begins with Slim. Is there a wide man called Chance we can team him up with?Given that 'Slimani' comes from 'Suleiman', which means 'man of peace' this would enable us to give 'Peace' a 'Chance'. And that is surely what we need at the Villa.
Oh bugger, it’s Dusty Bin isn’t it?
Peas however don’t need to be given a chance, they are already one of Britain’s most popular vegetables.
Vegetables are often paired with fruit and post Brexit clearly our Bananas will be as curved as we all want them to be.
A curve ball is a baseball term, baseball being American you might think that Villa are signing an North American. But, there is South America too of course and for the second city we find in fact the clues lead us to a guy, from the second smallest South American country, Uruguay. Gastón Rodrigo Pereiro López has of course recently been linked to the Villa, whereas in fact the prize here, is closer to the polyglot polymath Jennifer Lopez, famed for amongst other things making records.
The new signing here is a freshly autographed very rare, African Car Reverser double A side.
Don’t shoot messenger but hearing we’re in for another centre forward from Belgium. Mbwana Samatta.
Kristoff Trerrier or whatever he is called has said he's joining an un named Prem club for 8.5 million. Fee is decent. Still think we will loan another one if we buy him.Yeah, he’d be the dogs b**locks
Don’t shoot messenger but hearing we’re in for another centre forward from Belgium. Mbwana Samatta.
is this the PSG lad or the one from Belgium? Looks lik ewe are hedging our bets with one eye on a return to the Championship.
We can get Gabby back to make a sequel Secret Samatta. Born again Micah in the title role.contractually, not possible,
Samatta to Brighton or Newcastle i think
Don’t shoot messenger but hearing we’re in for another centre forward from Belgium. Mbwana Samatta.
What's Samatta you? Hey!
I'll get me coat.
What's the Samatta source?
Terence Kongolo on verge of joining Fulham on loan from Huddersfield - he'd be useful cover to put pressure on Kortney Hause, we should swoop in and do to them what they did to us over Joe Bryan, just for the lolzBantz
is this the PSG lad or the one from Belgium? Looks lik ewe are hedging our bets with one eye on a return to the Championship.
Looks like he hasn't played too much for PSV this season.. Form or injury?is this the PSG lad or the one from Belgium? Looks lik ewe are hedging our bets with one eye on a return to the Championship.
Would prefer Mbappe of the two personally. Or that Cavani fellow...
I think you mean PSV though!
Looks like he hasn't played too much for PSV this season.. Form or injury?is this the PSG lad or the one from Belgium? Looks lik ewe are hedging our bets with one eye on a return to the Championship.
Would prefer Mbappe of the two personally. Or that Cavani fellow...
I think you mean PSV though!
Smith said our season wouldn't be defined by matches against Man City, Liverpool etc. Given our paltry return of one point gainst the top 10 teams, by definition, our season is definitely defined by the next 3 matches. So the lack of foresight and readiness in signing strikers is incredible and negligent.
I'm not sure about signing young strikers from Dundee United.
Samatta to Brighton or Newcastle i think
Samatta to Brighton or Newcastle i think
Belgian Terror now saying he is coming to us.
Samatta to Brighton or Newcastle i think
Belgian Terror now saying he is coming to us.
He looks bloody awful on YouTube.
Don’t shoot messenger but hearing we’re in for another centre forward from Belgium. Mbwana Samatta.
Don’t shoot messenger but hearing we’re in for another centre forward from Belgium. Mbwana Samatta.
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We would have to wait for a work permit, too, I think. Unlikely to be available until very near the end of the month.
We would have to wait for a work permit, too, I think. Unlikely to be available until very near the end of the month.
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yet another p
Ooooh a striker!Ooooh a striker!would rather get benrahma or Bowen and keep el ghazi or trezeguet as striker
We would have to wait for a work permit, too, I think. Unlikely to be available until very near the end of the month.
We would have to wait for a work permit, too, I think. Unlikely to be available until very near the end of the month.
He wouldn't automatically get one (FA endorsement route) but it looks like he'd get enough points to get through the appeals process relatively easily. No idea what that means in terms of timescale.
yes, bloody agesWe would have to wait for a work permit, too, I think. Unlikely to be available until very near the end of the month.
Was there a long wait for Wesley's? Genuine query as I can't remember
??Don’t shoot messenger but hearing we’re in for another centre forward from Belgium. Mbwana Samatta.
ITK
ITSOTP
What about his work permit app, would he not fall at this hurdle? Any experts on H&V?
‘The player’s National Association must be at or above 70th place in the official FIFA World Rankings when averaged over the two years preceding the date of the application.’
Looking into this the application would have to go to a panels decision. A bit like strictly
I really don't want to be negative but if he is the best we can do with our untold millions - then what is the point
Rename this site Heroes and Moaners because the majority of you like a good old whinge. This bloke could be second coming of Thierry Henry - none of you that are moaning have ever seen him play. Whatever happened to getting behind the players and team?
He can head a ball at least
Lovely header Vs Liverpool in the European Cup this season.
https://twitter.com/astonforza/status/1217796207453577216
His highlights reel seems to be loads of misses. Looks slightly more dynamic than Wesley, but just as good at missing.Ah, in fairness the goals start at approx 2 mins.&feature=youtu.be
Lovely header Vs Liverpool in the European Cup this season.
https://twitter.com/astonforza/status/1217796207453577216
Lovely header Vs Liverpool in the European Cup this season.
https://twitter.com/astonforza/status/1217796207453577216
I mean, any header against that lot is a good one, but that's a particularly fine example.
Lovely header Vs Liverpool in the European Cup this season.
https://twitter.com/astonforza/status/1217796207453577216
I mean, any header against that lot is a good one, but that's a particularly fine example.
Honestly didnt think he was on our list. WP going to take time which is madness as to why we didnt sign him on 1st Jan......
Fear is we will be cut adrift by this time next week. Going into two huge games with no strikers
Lovely header Vs Liverpool in the European Cup this season.
https://twitter.com/astonforza/status/1217796207453577216
I thought I'd heard the name before. I am now exited
Lovely header Vs Liverpool in the European Cup this season.
https://twitter.com/astonforza/status/1217796207453577216
I thought I'd heard the name before. I am now exited
Stage left?
*Sorry*
What Samatta you?
Hey
Gotta no respect?
Whadda you t'ink you do?
Why you look-a so sad?
Villa now not so bad,
Goals all over the place
Ah, shaddap you face
**DOUBLE Sorry**
*Sorry*
What Samatta you?
Hey
Gotta no respect?
Whadda you t'ink you do?
Why you look-a so sad?
Villa now not so bad,
Goals all over the place
Ah, shaddap you face
**DOUBLE Sorry**
I was thinking No Worries - Hakuna Smatta
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You're just missing a [ before the /url]
So Kodija hasn't trained all week and won't feature Saturday.
Looks like we will be going to Brighton without a Striker
Even if we sign the lad we're linked with today that's just a replacement for Kodija... So we need two others, what is the club playing at?
Given how long work permits seem to take I reckon he's doubtful for West Ham.
*Sorry*
What Samatta you?
Hey
Gotta no respect?
Whadda you t'ink you do?
Why you look-a so sad?
Villa now not so bad,
Goals all over the place
Ah, shaddap you face
**DOUBLE Sorry**
Getting sick of this moneyball bollocks now.
Another punt from a third rate league. We have a dreadful track record on these sort of signings making the grade, for every Benteke we get lucky with there are ten or more Helenius / Wesley/ Okore/ Tonev/ Berson level players signed.
Yeah, may as well take our time. We don't have any big matches coming up or anything. And, in fairness, we've only had five months to identify a striker.
Slimani on loan 2nd striker - thats my bet
*Sorry*
What Samatta you?
Hey
Gotta no respect?
Whadda you t'ink you do?
Why you look-a so sad?
Villa now not so bad,
Goals all over the place
Ah, shaddap you face
**DOUBLE Sorry**
I like it.
Maybe the last line should be
Ah Samatta you’re ace
Getting sick of this moneyball bollocks now.
Another punt from a third rate league. We have a dreadful track record on these sort of signings making the grade, for every Benteke we get lucky with there are ten or more Helenius / Wesley/ Okore/ Tonev/ Berson level players signed.
That’s the spirit mate. Not even put pen to paper and sticking him in the same bracket as those others.
Given how long work permits seem to take I reckon he's doubtful for West Ham.
None of those players signed in a 31 day window. January is an awful time to do business for self evident reasons.
We don't have much patience do we?
Signing players particularly in January is not a click of the fingers job.
ha ha
I thought you lot were kidding when you said his highlight reel was a load of missed chances
just watched it and its a load of missed chances
(He gets a few at the end)
Even before Wesleys injury, it was abundantly clear that we were desperate for at least 1 more striker.
It is true that deals can only be completed during the window, but we surely must have been looking and trying to make things happen in November/December? Its not good enough at all that we look like going into a crucial game on the 18th January without a recognised striker.
Given how long work permits seem to take I reckon he's doubtful for West Ham.
I just read this from the summer..
"He's been living in Belgium for nearly 3 years (he signed for Genk in August 2016), after 3 years he can apply for Belgian citizenship and will then have an EU passport."
So he may already have an EU passport. It would make sense of Dean Smith's comment today about possibly having a striker in for Brighton.
I watched the YouTube clip. He missed some at the beginning and he scored some in the end. I'd call it a balanced video. However, he got into good positions for all of them. Looks like he's got a bit of pace too and can run off the back of the defence. Some good goals in there. We'll see.
If he signs let's give him a chance shall we.
Utv
Given how long work permits seem to take I reckon he's doubtful for West Ham.
I just read this from the summer..
"He's been living in Belgium for nearly 3 years (he signed for Genk in August 2016), after 3 years he can apply for Belgian citizenship and will then have an EU passport."
So he may already have an EU passport. It would make sense of Dean Smith's comment today about possibly having a striker in for Brighton.
Has it been decided what fate awaits EU players in the UK once we've left?
Good find about the Belgian passport, RCF. Normally Transfermarkt lets you know if they have dual nationality but only lists him as Tanzanian.
Hopefully we will have a striker for Brighton or Watford at the very latest.
Even before Wesleys injury, it was abundantly clear that we were desperate for at least 1 more striker.
It is true that deals can only be completed during the window, but we surely must have been looking and trying to make things happen in November/December? Its not good enough at all that we look like going into a crucial game on the 18th January without a recognised striker.
Kodjia on his way to Qatar.
Kodjia on his way to Qatar.
Must be some illness he came down with, if the cure is that far away.
Good find about the Belgian passport, RCF. Normally Transfermarkt lets you know if they have dual nationality but only lists him as Tanzanian.
Hopefully we will have a striker for Brighton or Watford at the very latest.
BBC: "The 27-year-old Tanzania international requires a work permit so he will not be available in time for Villa's visit to Brighton on Saturday." Now we know the BBC are lying bastards but even a broken clock..
Good find about the Belgian passport, RCF. Normally Transfermarkt lets you know if they have dual nationality but only lists him as Tanzanian.
Hopefully we will have a striker for Brighton or Watford at the very latest.
BBC: "The 27-year-old Tanzania international requires a work permit so he will not be available in time for Villa's visit to Brighton on Saturday." Now we know the BBC are lying bastards but even a broken clock..
I’ve always regarded Belgium as a bit of a strange country , ie not French , not Dutch but something in between. Our scouting team seem to share my morbid fascination.
Good find about the Belgian passport, RCF. Normally Transfermarkt lets you know if they have dual nationality but only lists him as Tanzanian.
Hopefully we will have a striker for Brighton or Watford at the very latest.
BBC: "The 27-year-old Tanzania international requires a work permit so he will not be available in time for Villa's visit to Brighton on Saturday." Now we know the BBC are lying bastards but even a broken clock..Good find about the Belgian passport, RCF. Normally Transfermarkt lets you know if they have dual nationality but only lists him as Tanzanian.
Hopefully we will have a striker for Brighton or Watford at the very latest.
BBC: "The 27-year-old Tanzania international requires a work permit so he will not be available in time for Villa's visit to Brighton on Saturday." Now we know the BBC are lying bastards but even a broken clock..
Just because he's illegible for a Belgian passport doesn't mean to say he has one.
Good find about the Belgian passport, RCF. Normally Transfermarkt lets you know if they have dual nationality but only lists him as Tanzanian.
Hopefully we will have a striker for Brighton or Watford at the very latest.
BBC: "The 27-year-old Tanzania international requires a work permit so he will not be available in time for Villa's visit to Brighton on Saturday." Now we know the BBC are lying bastards but even a broken clock..
Just because he's illegible for a Belgian passport doesn't mean to say he has one.
Good find about the Belgian passport, RCF. Normally Transfermarkt lets you know if they have dual nationality but only lists him as Tanzanian.
Hopefully we will have a striker for Brighton or Watford at the very latest.
BBC: "The 27-year-old Tanzania international requires a work permit so he will not be available in time for Villa's visit to Brighton on Saturday." Now we know the BBC are lying bastards but even a broken clock..
Just because he's illegible for a Belgian passport doesn't mean to say he has one.
That's not my reading of it.
Anyone know why he's half the price of Wesley despite a better goal record? Age or out of contract soon?
Anyone know why he's half the price of Wesley despite a better goal record? Age or out of contract soon?
Anyone know why he's half the price of Wesley despite a better goal record? Age or out of contract soon?
Buy out clause.
Do Genk have financial issues perhaps?
His highlights reel seems to be loads of misses. Looks slightly more dynamic than Wesley, but just as good at missing.Ffs give him a chance!&feature=youtu.be
They were all misses though. The goals started at 2 mins.His highlights reel seems to be loads of misses. Looks slightly more dynamic than Wesley, but just as good at missing.Ffs give him a chance!&feature=youtu.be
On the assumption he signs, are we storing up problems for when AFCON comes round again?
"Just as good at missing" i just don't think there's any need mate.They were all misses though. The goals started at 2 mins.His highlights reel seems to be loads of misses. Looks slightly more dynamic than Wesley, but just as good at missing.Ffs give him a chance!&feature=youtu.be
On the assumption he signs, are we storing up problems for when AFCON comes round again?
The statement that Smith wants two is a clear admission we left ourselves short. I would imagine come the summer we will look to make the loanee permanent if he works out, so we would have 3 forwards at the club.
Smith saying one possible in 24 hours.
His highlights reel seems to be loads of misses. Looks slightly more dynamic than Wesley, but just as good at missing.&feature=youtu.be
i know they are trying but going into the next two games without a new striker is massively concerning.
comparing the deal to Wes. Wes is a lot younger, raw and the potential to add far more value.
At 27, there is only so much value to be added with this new fella.
Bowen to Leeds for 3m loan and 15 if promoted seems too good a deal not to get involved in.
Based only on all the positive vibes from pretty much everybody, I have decided I want us to get N’ZonziYeah that's where i am with him. Big Sam (i know but he was England manager once) recommended and said he would definitely improve our midfield and add balance.
On the assumption he signs, are we storing up problems for when AFCON comes round again?
The statement that Smith wants two is a clear admission we left ourselves short. I would imagine come the summer we will look to make the loanee permanent if he works out, so we would have 3 forwards at the club.
Smith saying one possible in 24 hours.
Let’s hope we’re not found flandering
Slimani, Bowen and Nzonzi would be the ideal end to the window for me.
His highlights reel seems to be loads of misses. Looks slightly more dynamic than Wesley, but just as good at missing.Ffs give him a chance!&feature=youtu.be
His highlights reel seems to be loads of misses. Looks slightly more dynamic than Wesley, but just as good at missing.Ffs give him a chance!&feature=youtu.be
I agree.
He hasn't even signed yet! Give him a chance to sign. Then we can kick the s**t out of him when he doesn't score with every touch.
Drinkwater is the flaw in that plan.
SJM will plug that particular gap when he's fit.Drinkwater is the flaw in that plan.
He seems to be unless he can discover his Leicester City form Brian.
He got off the same flight as me from Dubai last night. I had the briefest of chats. Still has a protective boot on ankle and he is using a crutch. He reckons another couple of months. I’m guessing at least.SJM will plug that particular gap when he's fit.Drinkwater is the flaw in that plan.
He seems to be unless he can discover his Leicester City form Brian.
His highlights reel seems to be loads of misses. Looks slightly more dynamic than Wesley, but just as good at missing.Ffs give him a chance!&feature=youtu.be
I agree.
He hasn't even signed yet! Give him a chance to sign. Then we can kick the s**t out of him when he doesn't score with every touch.
Totally not drawing any conclusions from it but I found myself think exactly the same thing watching that. Seemed to show a lot of misses.
Ahh nice one thanks for the info. Can't be more itkHe got off the same flight as me from Dubai last night. I had the briefest of chats. Still has a protective boot on ankle and he is using a crutch. He reckons another couple of months. I’m guessing at least.SJM will plug that particular gap when he's fit.Drinkwater is the flaw in that plan.
He seems to be unless he can discover his Leicester City form Brian.
Gutted if we are not at least in for Bowen. One of those that seems to have a natural instinct for scoring.
Were you at the Dubai Racing Festival Walsall Villain? I bet John was.Nope, en route from visiting son and family in Malaysia. I wondered what our John was doing in Dubai, good shout.
I pulled a stolen safe out of one of my ditches. When we got it flame gunned (I can't spell acetylene) open it was full of passports. Over 200. He can have one of those. And get a new pun proof name.
Of course anything for you. Would you like five from the same family? I can offer you the Wongs but you must understand two of them don't make a White.Now that did make me LOL. Well done Brian (clappy emoticon)
Percy saying we are open to offers for Lansbury. Will be hard to shift unless we subsidise some of his salary, can’t see another Premiership team picking him up.
Percy saying we are open to offers for Lansbury. Will be hard to shift unless we subsidise some of his salary, can’t see another Premiership team picking him up.
i will be amazed if Lansbury left us before the end of his contract.
I pulled a stolen safe out of one of my ditches. When we got it flame gunned (I can't spell acetylene) open it was full of passports. Over 200. He can have one of those. And get a new pun proof name.
Percy saying we are open to offers for Lansbury. Will be hard to shift unless we subsidise some of his salary, can’t see another Premiership team picking him up.
How in the name of sweet fuckery can a useless donkey like Lansbury be on 40k a week ??? WTF
Do we never learn at this club. I doubt there's even championship 1 clubs that would want him even if we paid his wages
Slimani, Bowen and Nzonzi would be the ideal end to the window for me.
looks like JK is off then with 3 million for him
Middlesbrough hoping to sign James Chester, i wouldn't let him go until the end of the season.Unless they'd like a straight swap with Asombalonga..
https://www.footballinsider247.com/exclusive-middlesbrough-set-sights-on-signing-aston-villa-player-amid-contract-opening/
Slimani, Bowen and Nzonzi would be the ideal end to the window for me.
I want Benteke - I need romance, roy of the rovers stuff in my football! Winning goal to keep us up from the big man, everyone goes ballistic ...
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This sums it up perfectly for me
I want Benteke - I need romance, roy of the rovers stuff in my football! Winning goal to keep us up from the big man, everyone goes ballistic ...
I want Benteke - I need romance, roy of the rovers stuff in my football! Winning goal to keep us up from the big man, everyone goes ballistic ...
Why not a Bid for Billy Sharp, who apparently wants first team football?
Hull have signed some chap called Malik Wilks who can play as a winger or a striker. A replacement for Bowen?
Middlesbrough hoping to sign James Chester, i wouldn't let him go until the end of the season.Unless they'd like a straight swap with Asombalonga..
https://www.footballinsider247.com/exclusive-middlesbrough-set-sights-on-signing-aston-villa-player-amid-contract-opening/
Hull have signed some chap called Malik Wilks who can play as a winger or a striker. A replacement for Bowen?
No idea if there is any truth in it but I've just read that Leeds are to offer gbp3m to take Bowen on loan for the rest of the season with a further gbp15m to make it permanent if they get promoted.
If so, why can't we do similar with the balance paid if we stay up?
If Bowen is settled in the area it probably makes more sense to go to Leeds and almost certainly be in the Premier League next season than uproot to Brum and possibly be back where he started in August. Much as I would love him to come to us, I just don’t think it will happen.
17 days and no Striker on the pitch. Extremely poor work.
Why not a Bid for Billy Sharp, who apparently wants first team football?
Billy, don't be a hero (be a villan).
Wasting time and resources selling Kodjia on top of it.17 days and no Striker on the pitch. Extremely poor work.
This.......and utterly astonishing.
If Bowen is settled in the area it probably makes more sense to go to Leeds and almost certainly be in the Premier League next season than uproot to Brum and possibly be back where he started in August. Much as I would love him to come to us, I just don’t think it will happen.
Middlesbrough hoping to sign James Chester, i wouldn't let him go until the end of the season.Unless they'd like a straight swap with Asombalonga..
https://www.footballinsider247.com/exclusive-middlesbrough-set-sights-on-signing-aston-villa-player-amid-contract-opening/
For me Asombalonga is another one of those players who shines in the championship but wouldn't necessarily shine in the Premier League.
I don't think we're any worse off so far and selling Kodjia is a good idea. He's not good enough for this level, even remotely and he's out of contract.
I didn’t think we were after nzonzi ? Smith said only forwards
I didn’t think we were after nzonzi ? Smith said only forwards
The mismanagement of the striker situation is truly pathetic, a thing of the type I thought we might finally have left behind.
I know nobody can predict injuries, but a blind man on a galloping horse could have spotted the risk in our pathetic striker line up at the start of the season.
Meanwhile yet another match with no fucking striker, and one signed, but he needs a work permit and hasn't kicked a ball in this country before.
Abject squad management.
Our problem is we keep pushing back the point at which we think circumstances will allow us to expect to win a game, further and further, and eventually it is going to become irretrievable.
Even if we scrape survival this season there are a number of people at the club who want sacking for getting us in this pathetic mess.
I didn’t think we were after nzonzi ? Smith said only forwards
If this is true, we are truly fucked, because our midfield is piss weak and incapable of defending our defenders.
Pearson will fall out with someone soon, they will go back through a bad patch.
Offered me Slimani, NZonzi, Samata, Drinkwater and Reina before the window I would have taken it in a heartbeat. Not having the main deals done for these 2 games seems a massive mistake though.
We've handled recruitment appallingly - not just now but in the summer. There is seemingly no reason why Samatta couldn't have been bought on January 1st - come to that, July 1st 2019. Inept and puts our survival on the line.
I am agreeing with you Ads and Mr Underhill is a mate of mine (not a pun Mods).Underhill started it with the word seemingly.
If it's such a piece of cake to bring players in, why is the window a month long, and not just a couple of hours instead?
I am more concerned about our midfield than attack for today’s game.
No worries mate, we’ve got Drinky.I am more concerned about our midfield than attack for today’s game.
Absolutely.
The issue isn't January per se, it's the summer when this could and should have been avoided. To suggest that transfers are very sticky business in January and we should cut the club slack for that does not absolve them for fucking up September does it?
They can't have it both ways, they've made a mess full stop.
Please don't start this again, Skilz.
I'm on transfer watch and a truth seeker.
I'll end it when we sign Bowen and Benteke and/or when transfer window closes.
Was only asking update as people are decent enough to post info I'm decent enough to enquire on how the transfer talk is going.
I won't however 'start' anything in integration or integrity for that matter.
Respectfully hearing your plea. Maybe also request solid rumours only from those who hear things but yes I was asking for interest for all not to call anyone out !
No more will be asked till 31st ok on these 2 moves.
Thanks
Please don't start this again, Skilz.
I'm on transfer watch and a truth seeker.
I'll end it when we sign Bowen and Benteke and/or when transfer window closes.
Was only asking update as people are decent enough to post info I'm decent enough to enquire on how the transfer talk is going.
I won't however 'start' anything in integration or integrity for that matter.
Respectfully hearing your plea. Maybe also request solid rumours only from those who hear things but yes I was asking for interest for all not to call anyone out !
No more will be asked till 31st ok on these 2 moves.
Thanks
This is a genuine question. Is Skillz foreign? Does he have his posts translated online from his native language? That would explain a great deal.
I tend to read his posts in a Chinese accentPlease don't start this again, Skilz.
I'm on transfer watch and a truth seeker.
I'll end it when we sign Bowen and Benteke and/or when transfer window closes.
Was only asking update as people are decent enough to post info I'm decent enough to enquire on how the transfer talk is going.
I won't however 'start' anything in integration or integrity for that matter.
Respectfully hearing your plea. Maybe also request solid rumours only from those who hear things but yes I was asking for interest for all not to call anyone out !
No more will be asked till 31st ok on these 2 moves.
Thanks
This is a genuine question. Is Skillz foreign? Does he have his posts translated online from his native language? That would explain a great deal.
I tend to read his posts in a Chinese accentPlease don't start this again, Skilz.
I'm on transfer watch and a truth seeker.
I'll end it when we sign Bowen and Benteke and/or when transfer window closes.
Was only asking update as people are decent enough to post info I'm decent enough to enquire on how the transfer talk is going.
I won't however 'start' anything in integration or integrity for that matter.
Respectfully hearing your plea. Maybe also request solid rumours only from those who hear things but yes I was asking for interest for all not to call anyone out !
No more will be asked till 31st ok on these 2 moves.
Thanks
This is a genuine question. Is Skillz foreign? Does he have his posts translated online from his native language? That would explain a great deal.
I hope we sign Nzonzi, but we will have a lot of players sitting around and getting paid without contributing for the rest of the season.
I hope we sign Nzonzi, but we will have a lot of players sitting around and getting paid without contributing for the rest of the season.That's what we've got already, with half of them on the pitch.
I hope we sign Nzonzi, but we will have a lot of players sitting around and getting paid without contributing for the rest of the season.That's what we've got already, with half of them on the pitch.
I tend to read his posts in a Chinese accentPlease don't start this again, Skilz.
I'm on transfer watch and a truth seeker.
I'll end it when we sign Bowen and Benteke and/or when transfer window closes.
Was only asking update as people are decent enough to post info I'm decent enough to enquire on how the transfer talk is going.
I won't however 'start' anything in integration or integrity for that matter.
Respectfully hearing your plea. Maybe also request solid rumours only from those who hear things but yes I was asking for interest for all not to call anyone out !
No more will be asked till 31st ok on these 2 moves.
Thanks
This is a genuine question. Is Skillz foreign? Does he have his posts translated online from his native language? That would explain a great deal.
I’m not convinced Lolley is up to much.
I’m not convinced Lolley is up to much.
Up until this season I was, not sure what's happened.
But if there's any truth in this rumour, i'd snap their fucking hands right off. I'd swap Lansbury for a bag of chips mind. Useless twat.
I’m not convinced Lolley is up to much.
Up until this season I was, not sure what's happened.
But if there's any truth in this rumour, i'd snap their fucking hands right off. I'd swap Lansbury for a bag of chips mind. Useless twat.
I’ve read somewhere that he’s being played out of position 🤷♂️ And is not happy.
A mix of what's happened/rumoured and what I'd like to see, here's my Jan transfer wishlist:
- Reina (didn't really need one imo, but think he'll be a good addition)
- LB (fuck knows who... anyone but Taylor or Targett!)
- Stephen Nzonzi
- Jared Bowen
- Batsushayi - brought in as first choice striker on loan (instead of wasted loan slot of Drinkwater)
- Benteke on loan (gamble worth taking imo)
- Another striker (possibly this Tanzanian fella.... as backup)
I’m not convinced Lolley is up to much.
Up until this season I was, not sure what's happened.
But if there's any truth in this rumour, i'd snap their fucking hands right off. I'd swap Lansbury for a bag of chips mind. Useless twat.
I’ve read somewhere that he’s being played out of position 🤷♂️ And is not happy.
I want Benteke - I need romance, roy of the rovers stuff in my football! Winning goal to keep us up from the big man, everyone goes ballistic ...
The mismanagement of the striker situation is truly pathetic, a thing of the type I thought we might finally have left behind.
I know nobody can predict injuries, but a blind man on a galloping horse could have spotted the risk in our pathetic striker line up at the start of the season.
Meanwhile yet another match with no fucking striker, and one signed, but he needs a work permit and hasn't kicked a ball in this country before.
Abject squad management.
Our problem is we keep pushing back the point at which we think circumstances will allow us to expect to win a game, further and further, and eventually it is going to become irretrievable.
Even if we scrape survival this season there are a number of people at the club who want sacking for getting us in this pathetic mess.
I’m not convinced Lolley is up to much.
Up until this season I was, not sure what's happened.
But if there's any truth in this rumour, i'd snap their fucking hands right off. I'd swap Lansbury for a bag of chips mind. Useless twat.
I’ve read somewhere that he’s being played out of position 🤷♂️ And is not happy.
Lolley or Lansbury? If it's the latter, I'd love to know what he thinks his position is.
Lolley for Ange: no brainer. Get it done!
Samatta, Lolley and Bowen would be good business.
Looks like Kodjia is definitely on his way by what people are putting on twitter.Complete waste of atmos
Lolley having an absolute stormer for Forest v Luton.
Could do worse than having another Villa fan giving it all, week in, week out.
he’s just scored two for Forest in a promotion drive
Why would they swap him for Lansbury
Apparently we are back in for Giroud and are doing everything possible to resurrect the deal.I'd prefer Bowen to Giroud.
Apparently we are back in for Giroud and are doing everything possible to resurrect the deal.I'd prefer Bowen to Giroud.
Apparently we are back in for Giroud and are doing everything possible to resurrect the deal.I'd prefer Bowen to Giroud.
Giroud is slow, does not like to get his hair dirty and has had about as much game time in the last couple of years as Drinky.61 appearances since 2017. Just a few more than Drinkwater I think.
It was a good way of finding out how many appearances he made thanks, do you know what shampoo he favors?Giroud is slow, does not like to get his hair dirty and has had about as much game time in the last couple of years as Drinky.61 appearances since 2017. Just a few more than Drinkwater I think.
So, I’m guessing the rest of your statement is bollox as well?
Presume Giroud would be on a 3 month deal with option and a massive bonus if he scores the goals to keep us up. He could still go to Italy afterwards.
It's a plan, of sorts.
Giroud with Samatta in reserve or up top with him would be fantastic. It would also give us an edge for a few weeks as teams wouldn't know much about Samatta and how he plays.
Presume Giroud would be on a 3 month deal with option and a massive bonus if he scores the goals to keep us up. He could still go to Italy afterwards.
It's a plan, of sorts.
Presume Giroud would be on a 3 month deal with option and a massive bonus if he scores the goals to keep us up. He could still go to Italy afterwards.
It's a plan, of sorts.
I thought there was a limit on number of players on loan from one club - given Drainwater is (incredibly) a Chelsea player, that would rule Giroud out.
Presume Giroud would be on a 3 month deal with option and a massive bonus if he scores the goals to keep us up. He could still go to Italy afterwards.
It's a plan, of sorts.
I thought there was a limit on number of players on loan from one club - given Drainwater is (incredibly) a Chelsea player, that would rule Giroud out.
If the rumours are to be believed it’s meant to be a transfer not a loan.
I just can't understand anyone turning their noses up at Giroud for 6 months. Slow yes, but with willing runners around him he would be a top signing. Would also mean we had 2 frontline strikers for the rest of the season. If we could bag a pacy wide man too it would be brilliant business. Only problem we have is that in normal seasons our current points tally is OK and in a dog fight with 4 or 5 other teams. This season other teams keep pulling out incredibly good results against the top 10 and are creating a cushion. We really must win on Tuesday.
It really is desperation times. As a loan its fine, but as a 2-3 year deal it goes against all we have been trying to do.
We are starting games with a winger playing as a striker, yet some are extolling the virtues of a bloke who’s won a World Cup amongst many other trophies, and will very likely be playing up top for France in the coming Euros. Reality calling.
Lately he doesn’t seem to score goals.
And he’s slow. We need pace.We are starting games with a winger playing as a striker, yet some are extolling the virtues of a bloke who’s won a World Cup amongst many other trophies, and will very likely be playing up top for France in the coming Euros. Reality calling.
I think it's fair to question a centre forward who while playing for two of the top teams in the league who presumably create loads of chances, has managed 9 goals in 61 Premier League games in the last three years or to put it another way, 1 goal every (nearly) 7 games.
If he manages that for us, he'll have 2 goals before the end of the season. Not saying he's a bad player, clearly he's not. But is another non-scoring striker really what we need?
Good source says we are making progress with Bowen. Be happy with that to supply the ammo.
Apparently we are back in for Giroud and are doing everything possible to resurrect the deal.
Good source says we are making progress with Bowen. Be happy with that to supply the ammo.Apparently we are back in for Giroud and are doing everything possible to resurrect the deal.
Yes apparently....
What's your silence on the Bowen move ?
Now spreading Giroud rumours ?
We are starting games with a winger playing as a striker, yet some are extolling the virtues of a bloke who’s won a World Cup amongst many other trophies, and will very likely be playing up top for France in the coming Euros. Reality calling.
I think it's fair to question a centre forward who while playing for two of the top teams in the league who presumably create loads of chances, has managed 9 goals in 61 Premier League games in the last three years or to put it another way, 1 goal every (nearly) 7 games.
If he manages that for us, he'll have 2 goals before the end of the season. Not saying he's a bad player, clearly he's not. But is another non-scoring striker really what we need?
Giroud isn't coming so everyone can calm the heck down
He's going to Inter Milan .
I'll be right on things yet again.
But always hold hands up if I'm wrong and never make claims on anything.
Giroud isn't coming so everyone can calm the heck down
He's going to Inter Milan .
I'll be right on things yet again.
But always hold hands up if I'm wrong and never make claims on anything.
If you turn out to have been a bot from St. Petersburg all along, Skillz, I'm going to feel really daft.
Good source says we are making progress with Bowen. Be happy with that to supply the ammo.Apparently we are back in for Giroud and are doing everything possible to resurrect the deal.
Yes apparently....
What's your silence on the Bowen move ?
Now spreading Giroud rumours ?
There are new rules out for stalking from tomorrow.
Not called Jackie is she?
It really is desperation times. As a loan its fine, but as a 2-3 year deal it goes against all we have been trying to do.
We are starting games with a winger playing as a striker, yet some are extolling the virtues of a bloke who’s won a World Cup amongst many other trophies, and will very likely be playing up top for France in the coming Euros. Reality calling.
I think it's fair to question a centre forward who while playing for two of the top teams in the league who presumably create loads of chances, has managed 9 goals in 61 Premier League games in the last three years or to put it another way, 1 goal every (nearly) 7 games.
If he manages that for us, he'll have 2 goals before the end of the season. Not saying he's a bad player, clearly he's not. But is another non-scoring striker really what we need?
From the BBC Sport football gossip page: "Leicester and Aston Villa are targeting French striker Serhou Guirassy, 23, from Ligue 1 side Amiens in January."
Yes we have Waqas tees in the past,
Yes we have Waqas tees in the past,
Such a shame it didn’t work out for him here, he looked like the final piece in the jigsaw.
We'll always have those tees though. One of the few things the commercial dept got right during that era.
Not sure but I think what it boils down to is that Autocorrect on the modern mobile telephone has led to a boon in H&V puns.ahh. Now it makes sense. Cheers.
Not sure but I think what it boils down to is that Autocorrect on the modern mobile telephone has led to a boon in H&V puns.ahh. Now it makes sense. Cheers.
Just looked at all the transfers this window and with the exception of a couple that were out of our league, there is nobody that I think would have improved the situation.
The January window as slow as ever!
Just looked at all the transfers this window and with the exception of a couple that were out of our league, there is nobody that I think would have improved the situation.
The January window as slow as ever!
Pity the recruitment team didn't realise that last August.
Bentaleb going to Newcastle is a good signing
Bentaleb going to Newcastle is a good signing
Bentaleb going to Newcastle is a good signingIs it?
We have a real chance of staying up. Two huge games coming up - I cannot understand the delay. In 2016, it was fairly clear we were doomed - but still unforgivable to wave the white flag as we did.
I do not understand what we are playing at this time.
Sky linked us with Mehdi Taremi, just now.
We have a real chance of staying up. Two huge games coming up - I cannot understand the delay. In 2016, it was fairly clear we were doomed - but still unforgivable to wave the white flag as we did.
I do not understand what we are playing at this time.
There is obviously something holding the deal up and it might necessarily be our fault.
Sky linked us with Mehdi Taremi, just now.Cos that’s not another player who’ll need a bloody work permit is it?
Sky linked us with Mehdi Taremi, just now.
My mate who is iranian says he is very good. He was the guy who was crying his eyes out when iran went out if the world cup ro Portugal.
For those frustrated at the lack of any permanent signings I’m still unsure who another club is signed that we should of been in for?
Good source says we are making progress with Bowen. Be happy with that to supply the ammo.Apparently we are back in for Giroud and are doing everything possible to resurrect the deal.
Yes apparently....
What's your silence on the Bowen move ?
Now spreading Giroud rumours ?
For those frustrated at the lack of any permanent signings I’m still unsure who another club is signed that we should of been in for?For me, I couldn’t give a feck who everyone else hasn’t signed.
Has he signed, then? Tottenham were supposed to be after him. Which would be a waste of time as Mourinho has never picked anyone under 25 years of age or one that cost less than thirty million.
Has he signed, then? Tottenham were supposed to be after him. Which would be a waste of time as Mourinho has never picked anyone under 25 years of age or one that cost less than thirty million.
Good source says we are making progress with Bowen. Be happy with that to supply the ammo.Apparently we are back in for Giroud and are doing everything possible to resurrect the deal.
Yes apparently....
What's your silence on the Bowen move ?
Now spreading Giroud rumours ?
Have a lie down for a bit eh fella.
No I rather stand and stick up for the truth to when posters come with info . Nothing to say on the transfer you know about !
Hmm exactly
We trusted you.
We feel let down.
Shouldn't be allowed to mug off h and v site.
Poor show JC you're noted now here for transfer bollocks and I'll just ignore whatever your write.
Bentaleb going to Newcastle is a good signingIs it?
Exactly we have no bloody strikers and people saying such and such is signing ! As if it's going to happen and it's very misleading and it was getting hopes up and not good for me (and probably others) to be dashed .
There needs to be a rule about those types of posts.
Exactly we have no bloody strikers and people saying such and such is signing ! As if it's going to happen and it's very misleading and it was getting hopes up and not good for me (and probably others) to be dashed .There certainly needs to be rules about your posts.
There needs to be a rule about those types of posts.
Exactly we have no bloody strikers and people saying such and such is signing ! As if it's going to happen and it's very misleading and it was getting hopes up and not good for me (and probably others) to be dashed .
There needs to be a rule about those types of posts.
I cannot believe Jon Crofts has let us all down like that!!!!
Best news I've seen on here in weeks. Tarrra a bit, missing you already.
Best news I've seen on here in weeks. Tarrra a bit, missing you already.
It's like my gf,best friend or bro letting me down.
It's like my gf,best friend or bro letting me down.
It's exactly like that.
Samatta has signed BBC.
Subject to work permit.
Samatta has signed BBC.
Subject to work permit.
https://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?topic=60539.msg3705994#msg3705994
winky thing
I am very, very disappointed in you JC. Go and sit in the naughty corner and make something else up.
That did not last long.Best news I've seen on here in weeks. Tarrra a bit, missing you already.
Mid season break !
I'm not saying when learnt that lesson
Benteke will probably end up shuffling round the Qatari League in the not too distant future.
Benteke will probably end up shuffling round the Qatari League in the not too distant future.
That or the MLS.
I shudder when I see a Villa player whose name begins with Drink. And a battering ram centre forward whose name begins with Slim. Is there a wide man called Chance we can team him up with?Given that 'Slimani' comes from 'Suleiman', which means 'man of peace' this would enable us to give 'Peace' a 'Chance'. And that is surely what we need at the Villa.
Oh bugger, it’s Dusty Bin isn’t it?
Peas however don’t need to be given a chance, they are already one of Britain’s most popular vegetables.
Vegetables are often paired with fruit and post Brexit clearly our Bananas will be as curved as we all want them to be.
A curve ball is a baseball term, baseball being American you might think that Villa are signing an North American. But, there is South America too of course and for the second city we find in fact the clues lead us to a guy, from the second smallest South American country, Uruguay. Gastón Rodrigo Pereiro López has of course recently been linked to the Villa, whereas in fact the prize here, is closer to the polyglot polymath Jennifer Lopez, famed for amongst other things making records.
The new signing here is a freshly autographed very rare, African Car Reverser double A side.
It's like my gf,best friend or bro letting me down.
It's exactly like that.
I thought Jon Crofts WAS his girlfriend.
Benteke will probably end up shuffling round the Qatari League in the not too distant future.
That or the MLS.
I don't believe a word from Hodgson, Palace must be desperate to move him on.
130K a week and he is benched when fit. I imagine he'll move near the end of the window.
It's like my gf,best friend or bro letting me down.
It's exactly like that.
I thought Jon Crofts WAS his girlfriend.
No, I'm his gf
It's like my gf,best friend or bro letting me down.
It's exactly like that.
I thought Jon Crofts WAS his girlfriend.
No, I'm his gf
You're my bitch.
Barton's tonight?
And the winner of the most fucking weird transfer story of the window goes to......
(https://i.ibb.co/ZW67VQH/Screenshot-20200121-192408.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZW67VQH)
Smith says 1 more!
Answers on a post card...
I think it's a big one and the club is holding out for a higher offer. Someone we would never of guessed in a million years
I want a midfield enforcer.
I want a midfield enforcer.
That's sorted! 😉
I want a midfield enforcer.
That's sorted! 😉
And before anyone gets carried away I was referring to drinkwater haha
I shudder when I see a Villa player whose name begins with Drink. And a battering ram centre forward whose name begins with Slim. Is there a wide man called Chance we can team him up with?Given that 'Slimani' comes from 'Suleiman', which means 'man of peace' this would enable us to give 'Peace' a 'Chance'. And that is surely what we need at the Villa.
Oh bugger, it’s Dusty Bin isn’t it?
Peas however don’t need to be given a chance, they are already one of Britain’s most popular vegetables.
Vegetables are often paired with fruit and post Brexit clearly our Bananas will be as curved as we all want them to be.
A curve ball is a baseball term, baseball being American you might think that Villa are signing an North American. But, there is South America too of course and for the second city we find in fact the clues lead us to a guy, from the second smallest South American country, Uruguay. Gastón Rodrigo Pereiro López has of course recently been linked to the Villa, whereas in fact the prize here, is closer to the polyglot polymath Jennifer Lopez, famed for amongst other things making records.
The new signing here is a freshly autographed very rare, African Car Reverser double A side.
Well with a Tanzanian we are at least half way to the
African Coast Transverser double signing, are we in for any Nigerians?
It’s nice to see it’s registering, my Mrs just demanded why her favourite Tanzanian musicians are sharing loads of Villa stuff on social media.
Another striker is a must to be fair. We have 1 fit striker that has never played in this league now. Signing a similar style forward to Wesley is what we need if Samatta has the pace element covered. I don't think Benteke with his fitness record is the answer.Bowen
When's McGinn back?
When's McGinn back?
I heard March, likely to be the latter part of the month I would imagine but it would be something of a boost, and may well be needed.
I saw a tweet this morning with him waving his crutch around last night. Jumping up and down too though so that's optimistic!When's McGinn back?
I heard March, likely to be the latter part of the month I would imagine but it would be something of a boost, and may well be needed.
He's still on crutches which surprises me.
Danny Rose on loan wouldn't be a bad shout - never going to happen though with 2 "senior" left backs when we have more pressing issues
Danny Rose on loan wouldn't be a bad shout - never going to happen though with 2 "senior" left backs when we have more pressing issues
He’s a troublemaker so doubt Dean would touch him with a barge pole
I thought Targett and Grealish seemed to have a really good understanding last night (even if Targetts final ball was found wanting a couple of times).
Another left back not a priority for me. Definitely need another striker, and probably an upgrade on Trezeguet/El Ghazi
I thought Targett and Grealish seemed to have a really good understanding last night (even if Targetts final ball was found wanting a couple of times).
Another left back not a priority for me. Definitely need another striker, and probably an upgrade on Trezeguet/El Ghazi
They've done well together I think, Targett is better than we've seen I reckon.
Unless Engels is reinstated,I think another CB should be a priority.Playing Guilbert and Targett suits them and makes the team more compact but Konsa especially is a liability.Guilbert and Targett as wingbacks !
Unless Engels is reinstated,I think another CB should be a priority.Playing Guilbert and Targett suits them and makes the team more compact but Konsa especially is a liability.Is Konsa your replacement for Wesley as scapegoat? He is a young player learning his way in the premier league.i personally dont think he has done badly since coming in.But as for Danny Drinkwater dont get me started😡
Unless Engels is reinstated,I think another CB should be a priority.Playing Guilbert and Targett suits them and makes the team more compact but Konsa especially is a liability.No way this is a priority for January.
Unless Engels is reinstated,I think another CB should be a priority.Playing Guilbert and Targett suits them and makes the team more compact but Konsa especially is a liability.
Unless Engels is reinstated,I think another CB should be a priority.Playing Guilbert and Targett suits them and makes the team more compact but Konsa especially is a liability.
Targett played well last night, but that left side still concerns me with him and Neil Taylor.
If we were able to do a loan deal for cover either there (or possibly shunt Guilbert to LB and get a right sided full-back in, depending on availability) I'd be more confident about our options there.
Would still like N'Zonzi and another forward or wide player, but I can't see three arrivals between now and the end of Jan.
Anyone else hear Sturridge was at the game last night ?
Targett played well last night, but that left side still concerns me with him and Neil Taylor.
If we were able to do a loan deal for cover either there (or possibly shunt Guilbert to LB and get a right sided full-back in, depending on availability) I'd be more confident about our options there.
Would still like N'Zonzi and another forward or wide player, but I can't see three arrivals between now and the end of Jan.
Have to agree. I thought the delivery from both wing backs was poor last night and neither of them are the athletic, driving type of player we need in that position. In the modern game you need players who can can almost cover one flank of the pitch on their own and I don't think either Guilbert or Targett can.
That said, I think those positions are way down the lust of priorities in this window,
Unless Engels is reinstated,I think another CB should be a priority.Playing Guilbert and Targett suits them and makes the team more compact but Konsa especially is a liability.
Last night Mings was more of liability at times.
3 or 4 times he held on to the ball too long that put the defence under pressure.
Apologies if already posted but according to BBC website Eisiah Suliman has been sold to Vitoria Guimaraes. Fee not disclosed
Apologies if already posted but according to BBC website Eisiah Suliman has been sold to Vitoria Guimaraes. Fee not disclosed
Bloody hell was he still here? How old is he now?
Unless Engels is reinstated,I think another CB should be a priority.Playing Guilbert and Targett suits them and makes the team more compact but Konsa especially is a liability.
Last night Mings was more of liability at times.
3 or 4 times he held on to the ball too long that put the defence under pressure.
Come on Lee, you obviously saw the same game as me.
I think Mings is great, but, he shouldn't be exempt from criticism.
I'm at the back of the North Stand, the view is great.
There was another case where he had the ball, told Gilbert to make a run, which he did. Tyrone then made a crap pass the other way, Watford hoofed it into the gap left by Gilbert. It was Konsa that covered and made a tackle.
I thought he almost f*cked up when Deeney almost scored!
What? When?
Unless Engels is reinstated,I think another CB should be a priority.Playing Guilbert and Targett suits them and makes the team more compact but Konsa especially is a liability.
Last night Mings was more of liability at times.
3 or 4 times he held on to the ball too long that put the defence under pressure.
Come on Lee, you obviously saw the same game as me.
I think Mings is great, but, he shouldn't be exempt from criticism.
I'm at the back of the North Stand, the view is great.
There was another case where he had the ball, told Gilbert to make a run, which he did. Tyrone then made a crap pass the other way, Watford hoofed it into the gap left by Gilbert. It was Konsa that covered and made a tackle.
I thought he almost f*cked up when Deeney almost scored!
What? When?
Hause was awfulUnless Engels is reinstated,I think another CB should be a priority.Playing Guilbert and Targett suits them and makes the team more compact but Konsa especially is a liability.
Last night Mings was more of liability at times.
3 or 4 times he held on to the ball too long that put the defence under pressure.
Come on Lee, you obviously saw the same game as me.
I think Mings is great, but, he shouldn't be exempt from criticism.
I'm at the back of the North Stand, the view is great.
There was another case where he had the ball, told Gilbert to make a run, which he did. Tyrone then made a crap pass the other way, Watford hoofed it into the gap left by Gilbert. It was Konsa that covered and made a tackle.
I thought he almost f*cked up when Deeney almost scored!
What? When?
Ha, I'm on the back row of the North Stand, top that!
It's funny I suppose how we see different things, I thought he was pretty much flawless last night, it was Konsa I thought was poor and to blame for their goal.
Made up for it though.
Apologies if already posted but according to BBC website Eisiah Suliman has been sold to Vitoria Guimaraes. Fee not disclosedGood luck to the kid. I hope he makes a decent living playing football.
No Mitrovich for Fulham tonight...........is he injured?Yes, heard it on the radio earlier.
Unless Engels is reinstated,I think another CB should be a priority.Playing Guilbert and Targett suits them and makes the team more compact but Konsa especially is a liability.
Last night Mings was more of liability at times.
3 or 4 times he held on to the ball too long that put the defence under pressure.
Come on Lee, you obviously saw the same game as me.
I think Mings is great, but, he shouldn't be exempt from criticism.
I'm at the back of the North Stand, the view is great.
There was another case where he had the ball, told Gilbert to make a run, which he did. Tyrone then made a crap pass the other way, Watford hoofed it into the gap left by Gilbert. It was Konsa that covered and made a tackle.
I thought he almost f*cked up when Deeney almost scored!
What? When?
Ha, I'm on the back row of the North Stand, top that!
It's funny I suppose how we see different things, I thought he was pretty much flawless last night, it was Konsa I thought was poor and to blame for their goal.
Made up for it though.
Hause was awfulUnless Engels is reinstated,I think another CB should be a priority.Playing Guilbert and Targett suits them and makes the team more compact but Konsa especially is a liability.
Last night Mings was more of liability at times.
3 or 4 times he held on to the ball too long that put the defence under pressure.
Come on Lee, you obviously saw the same game as me.
I think Mings is great, but, he shouldn't be exempt from criticism.
I'm at the back of the North Stand, the view is great.
There was another case where he had the ball, told Gilbert to make a run, which he did. Tyrone then made a crap pass the other way, Watford hoofed it into the gap left by Gilbert. It was Konsa that covered and made a tackle.
I thought he almost f*cked up when Deeney almost scored!
What? When?
Ha, I'm on the back row of the North Stand, top that!
It's funny I suppose how we see different things, I thought he was pretty much flawless last night, it was Konsa I thought was poor and to blame for their goal.
Made up for it though.
Apologies if already posted but according to BBC website Eisiah Suliman has been sold to Vitoria Guimaraes. Fee not disclosed
Bloody hell was he still here? How old is he now?
I don’t know but I think he was due a testimonial.
Clever one Mossman :)
Targett played well last night, but that left side still concerns me with him and Neil Taylor.
If we were able to do a loan deal for cover either there (or possibly shunt Guilbert to LB and get a right sided full-back in, depending on availability) I'd be more confident about our options there.
Would still like N'Zonzi and another forward or wide player, but I can't see three arrivals between now and the end of Jan.
Have to agree. I thought the delivery from both wing backs was poor last night and neither of them are the athletic, driving type of player we need in that position. In the modern game you need players who can can almost cover one flank of the pitch on their own and I don't think either Guilbert or Targett can.
That said, I think those positions are way down the lust of priorities in this window,
I think you're completely wrong on Guilbert, I think he could be superb as that.
Targett played well last night, but that left side still concerns me with him and Neil Taylor.
If we were able to do a loan deal for cover either there (or possibly shunt Guilbert to LB and get a right sided full-back in, depending on availability) I'd be more confident about our options there.
Would still like N'Zonzi and another forward or wide player, but I can't see three arrivals between now and the end of Jan.
Have to agree. I thought the delivery from both wing backs was poor last night and neither of them are the athletic, driving type of player we need in that position. In the modern game you need players who can can almost cover one flank of the pitch on their own and I don't think either Guilbert or Targett can.
That said, I think those positions are way down the lust of priorities in this window,
I think you're completely wrong on Guilbert, I think he could be superb as that.
I honestly don't Paul. He probably does have the athleticism, but I just don't think he is good enough on the ball and his crossing was really poor last night (he wasn't alone in that I do have to add).
He turned backwards almost every time he had the ball last night and I think to be really effective in that position, you have to have the ability to beat players and create space for yourself.
Ideally, you want to the leave the flanks open for wing-backs, allowing more advanced to find pocketed of space inside. I think with the two wing-backs we do have though, we need players in wide areas in front of them to give those options.
Targett played well last night, but that left side still concerns me with him and Neil Taylor.
If we were able to do a loan deal for cover either there (or possibly shunt Guilbert to LB and get a right sided full-back in, depending on availability) I'd be more confident about our options there.
Would still like N'Zonzi and another forward or wide player, but I can't see three arrivals between now and the end of Jan.
Have to agree. I thought the delivery from both wing backs was poor last night and neither of them are the athletic, driving type of player we need in that position. In the modern game you need players who can can almost cover one flank of the pitch on their own and I don't think either Guilbert or Targett can.
That said, I think those positions are way down the lust of priorities in this window,
I think you're completely wrong on Guilbert, I think he could be superb as that.
I honestly don't Paul. He probably does have the athleticism, but I just don't think he is good enough on the ball and his crossing was really poor last night (he wasn't alone in that I do have to add).
He turned backwards almost every time he had the ball last night and I think to be really effective in that position, you have to have the ability to beat players and create space for yourself.
Ideally, you want to the leave the flanks open for wing-backs, allowing more advanced to find pocketed of space inside. I think with the two wing-backs we do have though, we need players in wide areas in front of them to give those options.
but throughout the season he has beaten men and put some very good crosses in and I don't believe he'd played wing-back before until this month so he needs the time to adapt, he's a much better player than you're giving him credit for though.
For me Guilbert is one of our better players and his crossing is very good.You don't need wide players in front of wing backs .Football is about making diagonal runs and attacking space.Man City ,who don't play 3 at the back ,are the best team in the league for turning defences,but they don't rely on overlaps,they tend to have a player(s) who goes inside from a wider position and passes forward to a more centrally based player who goes outward into space in the box ,thus turning the defence or the alternative is a pull back for a strike from de Bruyne.They play quite narrow at the top end but wide in midfield .Targett played well last night, but that left side still concerns me with him and Neil Taylor.
If we were able to do a loan deal for cover either there (or possibly shunt Guilbert to LB and get a right sided full-back in, depending on availability) I'd be more confident about our options there.
Would still like N'Zonzi and another forward or wide player, but I can't see three arrivals between now and the end of Jan.
Have to agree. I thought the delivery from both wing backs was poor last night and neither of them are the athletic, driving type of player we need in that position. In the modern game you need players who can can almost cover one flank of the pitch on their own and I don't think either Guilbert or Targett can.
That said, I think those positions are way down the lust of priorities in this window,
I think you're completely wrong on Guilbert, I think he could be superb as that.
I honestly don't Paul. He probably does have the athleticism, but I just don't think he is good enough on the ball and his crossing was really poor last night (he wasn't alone in that I do have to add).
He turned backwards almost every time he had the ball last night and I think to be really effective in that position, you have to have the ability to beat players and create space for yourself.
Ideally, you want to the leave the flanks open for wing-backs, allowing more advanced to find pocketed of space inside. I think with the two wing-backs we do have though, we need players in wide areas in front of them to give those options.
agree with you Paul e - I’ve been really impressed with what I’ve seen of Guilbert this season. Pretty decent going forward and willing to put a tackle in when needed. More than adequate for the Prem I think.Targett played well last night, but that left side still concerns me with him and Neil Taylor.
If we were able to do a loan deal for cover either there (or possibly shunt Guilbert to LB and get a right sided full-back in, depending on availability) I'd be more confident about our options there.
Would still like N'Zonzi and another forward or wide player, but I can't see three arrivals between now and the end of Jan.
Have to agree. I thought the delivery from both wing backs was poor last night and neither of them are the athletic, driving type of player we need in that position. In the modern game you need players who can can almost cover one flank of the pitch on their own and I don't think either Guilbert or Targett can.
That said, I think those positions are way down the lust of priorities in this window,
I think you're completely wrong on Guilbert, I think he could be superb as that.
Read a post somewhere yesterday (it may have been Twatter) saying that Neil Taylor was a Stoke's training ground.
Probably bollock's but, fingers crossed.
Read a post somewhere yesterday (it may have been Twatter) saying that Neil Taylor was a Stoke's training ground.Doing his FA Wales coaching badges
Probably bollock's but, fingers crossed.
Read a post somewhere yesterday (it may have been Twatter) saying that Neil Taylor was a Stoke's training ground.Doing his FA Wales coaching badges
Probably bollock's but, fingers crossed.
All seems to have gone quiet on here.....
It's a wonder what a last minute winner against a close rival does for you....
All seems to have gone quiet on here.....
It's a wonder what a last minute winner against a close rival does for you....
I think we read smith loud and clear(obviously reading between the lines) he said 1 more striker in the pipe and I guess it's a big one who's holding out hoping for a better offer.
Think nothing will happen till deadline day now. Apart from louie barry who's training with us but not signed yet. Which is baffling
All seems to have gone quiet on here.....
It's a wonder what a last minute winner against a close rival does for you....
I think we read smith loud and clear(obviously reading between the lines) he said 1 more striker in the pipe and I guess it's a big one who's holding out hoping for a better offer.
Think nothing will happen till deadline day now. Apart from louie barry who's training with us but not signed yet. Which is baffling
*Clutches pearls* Isn't he a bit young for tattoos?
*Clutches pearls* Isn't he a bit young for tattoos?Plus we now know where the clock face to Big Ben has been whilst the London landmark was being restored
?*Clutches pearls* Isn't he a bit young for tattoos?Plus we now know where the clock face to Big Ben has been whilst the London landmark was being restored
See image of him signing on ….tattoo and HUGE timepiece on his wrist ;)?*Clutches pearls* Isn't he a bit young for tattoos?Plus we now know where the clock face to Big Ben has been whilst the London landmark was being restored
Pleased for him and his hairdresser.He needs a bigger basin
just seen on twitter we might be in for a bloke called Serhou Guirassy....anybody know of anything about him ?
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do we want someone who doesn’t really want to be here though
The excitement of Tuesday night shouldn't hide the fact that we are still desperate for playable strikers. "Samagoal" by himself won't be enough. We have brought PL experience in with Reina and DD. We could do with some PL experience in the striker's role also. Let's not make the same mistake as we did in the summer and leave the striker's position wanting!
just seen on twitter we might be in for a bloke called Serhou Guirassy....anybody know of anything about him ?
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Hull appear to be almost openly touting Bowen now. We should be in there before he gets snapped up elsewhere. If I had the choice between Bowen and 6 months of Murray for example, or Giroud on his own, I'd take the Bowen and Murray route. We need 2 more forward options to see us through.
Re. Slimani, surely his ultimate destination has to be up to Leicester, he's their player after all, and therefore levels of any loan fees etc. would be set by them? I get that there are probably distinct clauses within a lot of loan deals, but I do find it hard to believe that you can sub-loan a player out.
Hull appear to be almost openly touting Bowen now. We should be in there before he gets snapped up elsewhere. If I had the choice between Bowen and 6 months of Murray for example, or Giroud on his own, I'd take the Bowen and Murray route. We need 2 more forward options to see us through.
Am I right in thinking Bowen's contract is up at the end of the season? So they may want to cash in on him now. It is a bit of a dilemma for them however because although Hull are in mid table they are only seven points off the play offs.
[/quotHull appear to be almost openly touting Bowen now. We should be in there before he gets snapped up elsewhere. If I had the choice between Bowen and 6 months of Murray for example, or Giroud on his own, I'd take the Bowen and Murray route. We need 2 more forward options to see us through.
Am I right in thinking Bowen's contract is up at the end of the season? So they may want to cash in on him now. It is a bit of a dilemma for them however because although Hull are in mid table they are only seven points off the play offs.
Apparently Hull have an option to extend it by a year which they almost certainly will do even if just to preserve his transfer value.
Do we really want Slimani?
39 Premier League appearances to date with a return of 8 goals, 1:5 goal to game ratio basically.
I appreciate we need bodies but would rather give youth a chance if that's the best he can offer us.
Do we really want Slimani?
39 Premier League appearances to date with a return of 8 goals, 1:5 goal to game ratio basically.
I appreciate we need bodies but would rather give youth a chance if that's the best he can offer us.
That can be misleading though. Look at Mousset's record at Bournemouth; Sheffield United sign him and then he starts scoring.
I look at the other Prem sides and think we've actually done the best business this January. Another striker would make it very good. Add a winger on top of that and we've played a blinder.
I look at the other Prem sides and think we've actually done the best business this January. Another striker would make it very good. Add a winger on top of that and we've played a blinder.
I'm not sure we need a winger with our new formation but I'd be a lot happier with a striker and a midfield destroyer.
Does anyone know what we are after? Is it just a striker now?
That's fair enough although I'd like to see Trezeguet with a decent midfield before judging him fully. I thought he did okay on Tuesday but others didn't.
That's fair enough although I'd like to see Trezeguet with a decent midfield before judging him fully. I thought he did okay on Tuesday but others didn't.I like him and I'm sure he's be much better, or far more consistent next season.
That's fair enough although I'd like to see Trezeguet with a decent midfield before judging him fully. I thought he did okay on Tuesday but others didn't.I like him and I'm sure he's be much better, or far more consistent next season.
to me, he’s just seemed inconsistent- much like the rest of the team really. Some days he’s great. Other days anonymous. I do like him though and think he will improve and hopefully be more consistent.That's fair enough although I'd like to see Trezeguet with a decent midfield before judging him fully. I thought he did okay on Tuesday but others didn't.I like him and I'm sure he's be much better, or far more consistent next season.
to me, he’s just seemed inconsistent- much like the rest of the team really. Some days he’s great. Other days anonymous. I do like him though and think he will improve and hopefully be more consistent.That's fair enough although I'd like to see Trezeguet with a decent midfield before judging him fully. I thought he did okay on Tuesday but others didn't.I like him and I'm sure he's be much better, or far more consistent next season.
Ollie Watkins please along with Said Benrahma.
Ollie Watkins please along with Said Benrahma.
They're going for promotion and moving into a new stadium, no way they'll sell at the moment.
Ollie Watkins please along with Said Benrahma.
They're going for promotion and moving into a new stadium, no way they'll sell at the moment.
And they will still only have 20,000 fans at the most. How will they pay for that stadium?
Ollie Watkins please along with Said Benrahma.
They're going for promotion and moving into a new stadium, no way they'll sell at the moment.
And they will still only have 20,000 fans at the most. How will they pay for that stadium?
From selling the likes of Hogan to idiots.
I imagine buying Hogan was the equivalent of buying a kebab, after a night on the piss.Then discovering it uneaten the next morning thinking why the fuck did I buy that
Oh.
Hogan at 12m was about the going rate for a striker that had scored 20 in 35. He just didn't fit cabbage ball, lost confidence, sharpness and appetite. Would not be suprised to see him thrive again somewhere with the right setup.
Would love him. Is he actually playing? Surprised he’s only 28 too
Would love him. Is he actually playing? Surprised he’s only 28 too
to me, he’s just seemed inconsistent- much like the rest of the team really. Some days he’s great. Other days anonymous. I do like him though and think he will improve and hopefully be more consistent.That's fair enough although I'd like to see Trezeguet with a decent midfield before judging him fully. I thought he did okay on Tuesday but others didn't.I like him and I'm sure he's be much better, or far more consistent next season.
Agree with this. Think he's yet to properly settle and like some others has good days and bad days as a result. Hoping he finds a rhythm soon as he clearly has talent.
The Meaning Evil has us linked with Victor Wanyama. 28 years old.
Surprised we have not had another look at Joe Lolley, could play alongside Jack and McGinn.
Surprised we have not had another look at Joe Lolley, could play alongside Jack and McGinn.
Surprised we have not had another look at Joe Lolley, could play alongside Jack and McGinn.
He's been garbage this season.
Surprised we have not had another look at Joe Lolley, could play alongside Jack and McGinn.we gambled on enough players that struggled to make the step up to the premier league - don't think it's wide to do that again, I think we need a bit of 'proven' in this side....
Surprised we have not had another look at Joe Lolley, could play alongside Jack and McGinn.
He's been garbage this season.
He has yet to hit the heights of last season and been anonymous in some matches but on what planet is 6 goals and 4 assists 'garbage'? Bit extreme
Too pun prone.
Would love him. Is he actually playing? Surprised he’s only 28 too
My mate a, spurs fan, used to rave about him in the early poch days. He has since revised his position saying that he never recovered from an injury and ‘his legs have gone’ which is surprising considering his age.
Surprised we have not had another look at Joe Lolley, could play alongside Jack and McGinn.
He's been garbage this season.
He has yet to hit the heights of last season and been anonymous in some matches but on what planet is 6 goals and 4 assists 'garbage'? Bit extreme
Planet Championship mate.
Surprised we have not had another look at Joe Lolley, could play alongside Jack and McGinn.
He's been garbage this season.
He has yet to hit the heights of last season and been anonymous in some matches but on what planet is 6 goals and 4 assists 'garbage'? Bit extreme
Planet Championship mate.
He's scored the same amount of goals in 26 games as Jack managed in 34 games in the Championship last year, and he's only 3 assists behind. I wouldn't be so quick to describe that as garbage, even on 'Planet Championship'.
Surprised we have not had another look at Joe Lolley, could play alongside Jack and McGinn.
He's been garbage this season.
He has yet to hit the heights of last season and been anonymous in some matches but on what planet is 6 goals and 4 assists 'garbage'? Bit extreme
Planet Championship mate.
He's scored the same amount of goals in 26 games as Jack managed in 34 games in the Championship last year, and he's only 3 assists behind. I wouldn't be so quick to describe that as garbage, even on 'Planet Championship'.
I'd wager Hourihane has a better ratio than both, but he's not good enough in this league either.
Surprised we have not had another look at Joe Lolley, could play alongside Jack and McGinn.
He's been garbage this season.
He has yet to hit the heights of last season and been anonymous in some matches but on what planet is 6 goals and 4 assists 'garbage'? Bit extreme
Nice to hear it confirmed we are definitely after another forward.
Nice to hear it confirmed we are definitely after another forward.
Poles apart, ie Piatek who else has the Meaning Evil linked us with this week ?Nice to hear it confirmed we are definitely after another forward.
January, though. "After" and "getting" can be poles apart.
We've refused to take Hogan back and Stoke don't want to pay the loan fee, so they're looking for another club to take him on.
We've refused to take Hogan back and Stoke don't want to pay the loan fee, so they're looking for another club to take him on.
"There's a player in there somewhere."
We've refused to take Hogan back and Stoke don't want to pay the loan fee, so they're looking for another club to take him on.
"There's a player in there somewhere."It’s just that nobody seems to play to his strengths. What are they by the way?
Pining for the fleshpots of Greenford and Perivale.
You don't work your way up from non league, have a better than 1 in 2 strike rate up to the point of coming to Villa, and become completely useless over night. Like I said, once he leaves us I would not be shocked to see him scoring goals again on a regular basis.
I respect that Ozz and I really admire the fans who are loyal to their own. I just don't see it happening. Just like my good mate Mr Underhill could never see Adama Traore playing in the Champions League. That is not yet a done deal so if Traore falls short I owe Mr Underhill a slap up lunch at a venue of his choice. I extend the same reward to you if Hogan becomes a prolific scorer above League 2 in the EFL.Genuine question, given that he already achieved that, what are your thoughts why he couldn't again? Uniquely perfect set up @ Brentford that suited his style? I also can imagine him finding his level again, if he wants it enough. L1 or Chumps doesn't sound unreasonable.
I definitely agree with those who think Hogan has ‘shat his hole full’ but I also agree with those that think he was decent once. In my view, he was limited but very good (at Championship level anyway) at what he did well, which was box finishing with the ball played on the front foot. We couldn’t give him what he needed to be successful, he had a couple of injury set backs as well, but what I’d imagine we did give him was a contract and salary that he’d barely dreamt of before so you question his desire in that after a few set backs he appears to have thought ‘ah, fuck it, I’m made for life now anyway so who gives a shit’. That would be my best guess, because he wasn’t a shit player at championship level.This sums up my thoughts on it. I think Hogan could become a good Championship level player again, but it'd probably involve him dropping down to League 1 level first, get his confidence back by banging in 20 or so in a season. But I don't think he will, at least until it's way too late, because - well, he's going to be paid more for sitting on his arse for a year at Villa than probably the rest of his career, so why would he?
Hogan has had three managers since he's been away from us, and in Wilder one of the best. He's been found wanting every time. You might as well ask if Ross McCormack is going to make it again, as he's got a much better record in the Championship.
Was there any truth in the Nzonzi link or was it just paper nonsense?He was quoted as saying he'd prefer a move to London so it's probably a non starter.
Dean knows Hogan, and his ability, about as well as anyone else in English football, and he didn't want to recall him in the midst of a striker crisis that saw us playing four games without a striker, preferring an 18-year-old with no first-team experience at any professional level as his striker 'option'.
That says it all for me.
Spot on
Who has said Chester is potentially off to the MLS?
Nice to hear it confirmed we are definitely after another forward.
Nice to hear it confirmed we are definitely after another forward.
I accept that it is difficult to do business in the January window, but if they fail to bring in another striker then they will have failed to address that issue in two transfer windows which does not reflect well on those in charge of recruitment.
Who has said Chester is potentially off to the MLS?
There’s been an article in Birmingham’s most popular newspaper.
Who has said Chester is potentially off to the MLS?
There’s been an article in Birmingham’s most popular newspaper.
The Metro?
Going into the next 15 games with 1 recognised striker fit would be lunacy.
You are probably right.
I know it's only a rubbish rumour but Sturridge for £5M would be OK if I thought he was no more likely to get injured than anyone else.
Davis and he would be playing rock paper scissors for the physio table.More like - cruciate, calf strain, hamstring
19/20 Knock Jan 10, 2020 Jan 27, 2020 17 days 4 games missedBloody hell, that's ridiculous. Any club would have to be nuts to go anywhere near him.
19/20 Muscle Injury Dec 8, 2019 Dec 13, 2019 5 days 2 games missed
19/20 Calf muscle strain Nov 24, 2019 Nov 29, 2019 5 days 1 game missed
19/20 Thigh muscle rupture Oct 28, 2019 Nov 24, 2019 27 days 5 games missed
19/20 Groin Injury Oct 23, 2019 Oct 25, 2019 2 days 1 game missed
19/20 Achilles tendon problems Sep 22, 2019 Sep 26, 2019 4 days 1 game missed
So he's been there 6 months. Picked up 6 minor injuries and missed 14 games at various times because of them. In other words, he's still Daniel Sturridge and complete waste of everyones time except for the Physio team.
I know it's only a rubbish rumour but Sturridge for £5M would be OK if I thought he was no more likely to get injured than anyone else.
I know it's only a rubbish rumour but Sturridge for £5M would be OK if I thought he was no more likely to get injured than anyone else.
I'd take him for free on a pay as you play basis in addition to Samatta and someone else.
Beverage person.Chaiwala
NZonzi linked with Stade Rennais . So better forget about this. But it is no surprise.
NZonzi linked with Stade Rennais . So better forget about this. But it is no surprise.
Ighalo is apparently a possible mover back into the Prem
He has form for goals.
I know it's only a rubbish rumour but Sturridge for £5M would be OK if I thought he was no more likely to get injured than anyone else.Would of been great but apparently he injured himself answering a phone call off his agent.
With our FFP position it's quite possible we can't right now.NZonzi linked with Stade Rennais . So better forget about this. But it is no surprise.
We can't compete with the Stade Rennais of this world.
What FFP position?With our FFP position it's quite possible we can't right now.NZonzi linked with Stade Rennais . So better forget about this. But it is no surprise.
We can't compete with the Stade Rennais of this world.
I know it's only a rubbish rumour but Sturridge for £5M would be OK if I thought he was no more likely to get injured than anyone else.Would of been great but apparently he injured himself answering a phone call off his agent.
We shall sign a Greenland International ........don't you just inuitIghalo is apparently a possible mover back into the Prem
He has form for goals.
He'd be useful. Especially if we get this ice and snow that is forecast for Feb'.
Hopefully he can hide how shite he is for long enough to make them want him on a permanent. It worked with Gardner.
The owner of Stade Rennais is among the 30 richest man in the world.Hairy muff.
I am not saying Villa cant compete with them, just Rennes can afford him as much we can.
The owner of Stade Rennais is among the 30 richest man in the world.Hairy muff.
I am not saying Villa cant compete with them, just Rennes can afford him as much we can.
My understanding is we're walking a very tight line on complying with FFP, which is limiting what we can spend. Is that not correct?What FFP position?With our FFP position it's quite possible we can't right now.NZonzi linked with Stade Rennais . So better forget about this. But it is no surprise.
We can't compete with the Stade Rennais of this world.
It has also been stated on here that there is no problem, we are not troubling European places and if we go down we sell players at a massive profit.My understanding is we're walking a very tight line on complying with FFP, which is limiting what we can spend. Is that not correct?What FFP position?With our FFP position it's quite possible we can't right now.NZonzi linked with Stade Rennais . So better forget about this. But it is no surprise.
We can't compete with the Stade Rennais of this world.
Which FFP is it? The EFL's or the Premier League's?
If it's the EFL's, we should just tell them to sod off, and if by chance we finish in the bottom three and they'd like us to grace their poxy league with our presence next season, they should fix their attitude.
DS "as confident as I can be" of signing another striker.
Which FFP is it? The EFL's or the Premier League's?I like the cut of your jib
If it's the EFL's, we should just tell them to sod off, and if by chance we finish in the bottom three and they'd like us to grace their poxy league with our presence next season, they should fix their attitude.
All I hear all day on the TV and Radio is how hard it is to get.buy players in the January transfer window. No idea why we actually have it then.
All I hear all day on the TV and Radio is how hard it is to get.buy players in the January transfer window. No idea why we actually have it then.
Maybe the January window should last just one day, the last day of January. Seeing as that is the day 90% of the transfers for the month take place. It could be like the January sales. Dean Smith, Nigel Pearson Et al sleeping outside other clubs training grounds in sleeping bags with flasks of coffee overnight.
Im absolutely convinced we didn't do a single bit of scouting on Hogan other than looking at the Championship scoring charts.
Hopefully he can hide how shite he is for long enough to make them want him on a permanent. It worked with Gardner.
Seems to be a few links for Gastón Pereiro at the moment. Looks more like an inside forward than a centre forward. Nice left peg though
Quick search shows that he missed 12 games due to a broken collarbone.Seems to be a few links for Gastón Pereiro at the moment. Looks more like an inside forward than a centre forward. Nice left peg though
Expect to see him sitting in the stands at the match tonight. He enjoys being a fan rather than a player judging by his appearance stats this season (played 4 - FOUR).
Quick search shows that he missed 12 games due to a broken collarbone.Seems to be a few links for Gastón Pereiro at the moment. Looks more like an inside forward than a centre forward. Nice left peg though
Expect to see him sitting in the stands at the match tonight. He enjoys being a fan rather than a player judging by his appearance stats this season (played 4 - FOUR).
EDIT: Ah, and has been frozen out due to a contract dispute it seems.
Seems to be a few links for Gastón Pereiro at the moment. Looks more like an inside forward than a centre forward. Nice left peg though
Why is Engels out in the cold?
Slimani wants out at Monaco. Wonder if he watched our game tonight!
Why is Engels out in the cold?
Rumour that him and Smith have had a disagreement. Daft really, 2 grown men who can't get over their differences for the good of Aston Villa.
Hause's distribution worries me, he attracts pressure and looks uncomfortable at times with ball at feet.I don't know what his pass completion stats are but they must be diabolical.
Why would Leicester help out either United or Spurs when they are all fishing in the European places pool?Slimani wants out at Monaco. Wonder if he watched our game tonight!
Spurs and Manure both want Slimani apparently but Brendan Rodgers has already said the situation with Monaco is "complicated". I think they paid a loan fee and want some of it back if they are to let him go.
Hause's distribution worries me, he attracts pressure and looks uncomfortable at times with ball at feet.I don't know what his pass completion stats are but they must be diabolical.
I kinda just touched on this in the Nyland thread I think he is (along with the whole defensive unit) better when Reina is in goal.Hause's distribution worries me, he attracts pressure and looks uncomfortable at times with ball at feet.I don't know what his pass completion stats are but they must be diabolical.
He was the same against a Watford.Hause's distribution worries me, he attracts pressure and looks uncomfortable at times with ball at feet.I don't know what his pass completion stats are but they must be diabolical.
Jota doesn't get a look-in because he's not very good.
I think it is purely a case of I cannot see Engels playing in a 3, especially as we have such balance with the 3 that are there now.
Its like Jota not getting a look in due to the fact that he has no natural position in the formation we are now playing with pretty well
I like Hause but he can blow hot and cold. The problem is, he's no real competition for the left of the back three, unless we move Mings there, and put Engels in the centre, which doesn't look likely any time soon.
The Guardian suggests that we ought to sign Eze from QPR
https://www.theguardian.com/football/who-scored-blog/2020/jan/29/transfer-window-premier-league-clubs-chelsea-manchester-united-tottenham-villa-west-ham-watford?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=twt_gu&utm_medium=&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1580312316
The Guardian suggests that we ought to sign Eze from QPR
https://www.theguardian.com/football/who-scored-blog/2020/jan/29/transfer-window-premier-league-clubs-chelsea-manchester-united-tottenham-villa-west-ham-watford?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=twt_gu&utm_medium=&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1580312316
I'm sure I've said it before but I'd be happy with that, I think he's the best player in that league.
Wouldn't have a problem with Eze, but I don't think we're after him.
Wouldn't have a problem with Eze, but I don't think we're after him.
Dean wants him. He said he's begged, stole, and I borrowed.
Wouldn't have a problem with Eze, but I don't think we're after him.
Why is Engels out in the cold?
Rumour that him and Smith have had a disagreement. Daft really, 2 grown men who can't get over their differences for the good of Aston Villa.
I think it is purely a case of I cannot see Engels playing in a 3, especially as we have such balance with the 3 that are there now.
Its like Jota not getting a look in due to the fact that he has no natural position in the formation we are now playing with pretty well
Chester going makes me nervous. Basically it means if we get 2 centre back out for any reason, we are back to 4 3 3 and that simply didn't work for us. If he is going, we need a replacement.
Another striker is absolutely essential. Hogan isn't the best but at least he was an option. We keep selling/loaning strikers without deals in place first. Current options are only Samatta and the injury prone Davis. We don't want another August situation with lack of numbers up front. Just get Benteke in!I don't think Hogan has been an option for a long time!
Also I'd keep Chester for his experience in the run-in.
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The lack of any links 48 hours out is worrying. We need a striker, centre half and wide player potentially.
The lack of any links 48 hours out is worrying. We need a striker, centre half and wide player potentially.
Lack of links mean nothing.
The lack of any links 48 hours out is worrying. We need a striker, centre half and wide player potentially.
Lack of links mean nothing.
I know, but you would have thought if anything was close we would have heard. Chester likely going and no backup for Samatta suggests we need 2 players ASAP. Leaving ourselves that short when we have a decent shot at survival would be very poor.
We needed a new striker before Wes got injured and Kodjia was sold to take our options to 4. We don't want to let the transfer window close with just Samatta and Davis as strikers, that would be foolish going into the final games of the season. At least one more striker is needed and perhaps cover in other areas depending on whether we release anybody ourselves. The clock is ticking so come on Villa!
I think you'll find in any transfer process involving our club, Aston Villa will have to play their part. I'm hardly going to come on here and say (eg) come on palace or come on chelsea, to get a transfer over the line. Whether its 1st or 31st Jan I'm willing my club to get the deals done. From 1st Feb I'll obviously make do with what we've got.
The lack of any links 48 hours out is worrying. We need a striker, centre half and wide player potentially.
Lack of links mean nothing.
I love Chester and yes in theory he's earned a move if that is what he wants. But in our precarious position I would prefer we just be more hard nosed and keep him until the summer. I'm sure he'd be great in a three if Hause loses form or picks up a knock.
With Chester & Engels as back up, I'd concentrate our limited funds elsewhere. I'd love decent cover for Marv. If he get's injured we don't have a natural out and out DM. I think Nzonzi would have been ideal. If I could have only one of a striker or wide player, now with have Samatta in & Davis seemingly fit, I think I'd opt for a scoring wide player. I can't believe Bowen hasn't been picked up by someone as I've felt for some time he could be excellent for us. I'm guessing we can't spend the cash to get someone like him or Benrahma at the moment, but hoping the club pulls a rabbit out of the hat.
I love Chester and yes in theory he's earned a move if that is what he wants. But in our precarious position I would prefer we just be more hard nosed and keep him until the summer. I'm sure he'd be great in a three if Hause loses form or picks up a knock.
With Chester & Engels as back up, I'd concentrate our limited funds elsewhere. I'd love decent cover for Marv. If he get's injured we don't have a natural out and out DM. I think Nzonzi would have been ideal. If I could have only one of a striker or wide player, now with have Samatta in & Davis seemingly fit, I think I'd opt for a scoring wide player. I can't believe Bowen hasn't been picked up by someone as I've felt for some time he could be excellent for us. I'm guessing we can't spend the cash to get someone like him or Benrahma at the moment, but hoping the club pulls a rabbit out of the hat.
We need a winger and a forward. Davis will be injured again before Valentine's Day. Gambling on one forward was stupid in August and it would be stupid now.
Watkins would fit that specification but are Brentford going to prejudice their push for the playoffs. I doubt it.I think you're right. Brentford have sold a load of players over the last few years and now they are near the top owe it to their fans to have a proper go at it this season. I'd like some of their players but it would be good to see such a well run club promoted.
We need a winger and a forward. Davis will be injured again before Valentine's Day. Gambling on one forward was stupid in August and it would be stupid now.
Our realistic options are Benteke and Sturridge, both of whom are notorious sick notes. No point signing a back-up striker who is known to pull up any time someone breathes on them in training.
We need a winger and a forward. Davis will be injured again before Valentine's Day. Gambling on one forward was stupid in August and it would be stupid now.
Our realistic options are Benteke and Sturridge, both of whom are notorious sick notes. No point signing a back-up striker who is known to pull up any time someone breathes on them in training.
Why are they our only "realistic" options? There are thousands of strikers on the planet.
We need a winger and a forward. Davis will be injured again before Valentine's Day. Gambling on one forward was stupid in August and it would be stupid now.
Our realistic options are Benteke and Sturridge, both of whom are notorious sick notes. No point signing a back-up striker who is known to pull up any time someone breathes on them in training.
If Dean seems intent on sticking with the current formation, do we really need another central striker (if Samatta and Davis stay fit)? We only have Trez, Anwar and Jack for the two wide forward positions (assuming Jota is going on loan). Would we be better getting a forward who can also play wide, rather than a straight-up number 9?
We need a winger and a forward. Davis will be injured again before Valentine's Day. Gambling on one forward was stupid in August and it would be stupid now.
Our realistic options are Benteke and Sturridge, both of whom are notorious sick notes. No point signing a back-up striker who is known to pull up any time someone breathes on them in training.
Why are they our only "realistic" options? There are thousands of strikers on the planet.
Available for transfer at the arse end of the tricky January window?
We need a winger and a forward. Davis will be injured again before Valentine's Day. Gambling on one forward was stupid in August and it would be stupid now.
Our realistic options are Benteke and Sturridge, both of whom are notorious sick notes. No point signing a back-up striker who is known to pull up any time someone breathes on them in training.
Why are they our only "realistic" options? There are thousands of strikers on the planet.
Available for transfer at the arse end of the tricky January window?
Benteke has recently signed a new contract at Palace and Hodgson has described talk of him leaving as 'ludicrous' and said he is one of their most important players.
How is he obviously available?
We need a winger and a forward. Davis will be injured again before Valentine's Day. Gambling on one forward was stupid in August and it would be stupid now.
Our realistic options are Benteke and Sturridge, both of whom are notorious sick notes. No point signing a back-up striker who is known to pull up any time someone breathes on them in training.
Why are they our only "realistic" options? There are thousands of strikers on the planet.
Available for transfer at the arse end of the tricky January window?
Benteke has recently signed a new contract at Palace and Hodgson has described talk of him leaving as 'ludicrous' and said he is one of their most important players.
How is he obviously available?
We need a winger and a forward. Davis will be injured again before Valentine's Day. Gambling on one forward was stupid in August and it would be stupid now.
Our realistic options are Benteke and Sturridge, both of whom are notorious sick notes. No point signing a back-up striker who is known to pull up any time someone breathes on them in training.
Why are they our only "realistic" options? There are thousands of strikers on the planet.
Available for transfer at the arse end of the tricky January window?
Benteke has recently signed a new contract at Palace and Hodgson has described talk of him leaving as 'ludicrous' and said he is one of their most important players.
How is he obviously available?
First of all nobody used the words "obviously available" or said anything with that kind of emphasis, so you're misrepresenting. I said he was one of few realistic options in this window. He's got 0 Goals and 0 Assists for Palace this season, do you really think they wouldn't negotiate with any club willing to offer money, either for a loan agreement or a permanent?
Given the circumstances under which he left the Academy I would be surprised to see him return.
Given the circumstances under which he left the Academy I would be surprised to see him return.
Bloody hell Lee, he left Villa at the age of 11, 19 years ago! I can understand the arguments for and against signing him until the end of the season, but what he did as a very young kid (presumably at his parents' behest) at the turn of the millenium surely doesn't come into it?! I can't imagine there are many people still at the club from back then in any case.
Someone recently posted Sturriges injury record over the last 6 months and it was horrific. He had missed about 14 games and had 6 injuries if I recall correctly.
I can see the appeal - if only we can be the club where he finds a decent run of fitness and form... But like Carrol and the later career Michael Owen I'm sure it just won't happen.
Which do you think is more likely Doc?!Someone recently posted Sturriges injury record over the last 6 months and it was horrific. He had missed about 14 games and had 6 injuries if I recall correctly.
I can see the appeal - if only we can be the club where he finds a decent run of fitness and form... But like Carrol and the later career Michael Owen I'm sure it just won't happen.
or he becomes the goal scoring equivalent of Paul McGrath ;)
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Which do you think is more likely Doc?!Someone recently posted Sturriges injury record over the last 6 months and it was horrific. He had missed about 14 games and had 6 injuries if I recall correctly.
I can see the appeal - if only we can be the club where he finds a decent run of fitness and form... But like Carrol and the later career Michael Owen I'm sure it just won't happen.
or he becomes the goal scoring equivalent of Paul McGrath ;)
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I think McGrath was still playing fairly regulalrly when we bought him. Sturridge hasn't played consistantly for years and as I understand it is injured right now!
Sturridge is a good player but has only ever had one really good season, the year when he and Suarez almost won Liverpool the title, and that was 6 years ago. Since then, he's scored 19 goals in the league in 5 seasons, and been mostly hugely injury prone and unreliable. I suppose it could be worth a punt and hope that he can both stay fit AND bag a few goals in the last 14 games, but I hope that something better is in the pipeline.
I think we are in for Benteke.
I have no problem with that after signing Samatta.
I think we are in for Benteke.
I have no problem with that after signing Samatta.
As short term cover until the end of the season, fine. But no longer than that.
Have we signed Benteke yet, what’s the point of this needless delay before the bleeding obvious happens? 🤷♂️
Sturridge is a good player but has only ever had one really good season, the year when he and Suarez almost won Liverpool the title, and that was 6 years ago. Since then, he's scored 19 goals in the league in 5 seasons, and been mostly hugely injury prone and unreliable. I suppose it could be worth a punt and hope that he can both stay fit AND bag a few goals in the last 14 games, but I hope that something better is in the pipeline.
He's done alright in Turkey, but someone posted something here the other day showing that even there, he's had three or four spells out injured this season.
Have we signed Benteke yet, what’s the point of this needless delay before the bleeding obvious happens? 🤷♂️
Bleeding obvious to whom? It would seem bleeding ludicrous to me! A guy who walked on Villa to go and sign for the Red Scouse and then had his career fizzle away to the point of being a second rate bench warmer? I don't see the bleeding obvious reason for us giving him a way back into his career having pretty well given him a golden opportunity already. In fact I would be very disappointed if we did bring him back.
BBC reporting Palace have had a bid accepted for Bowen. Bloody Palace !! Punching above their weight just because they are in London >:(Could well release Benteke if that's the case
Reports that Palace have agreed £16m for Bowen.
Frustrating if true. FFP is a bastard.
Reports that Palace have agreed £16m for Bowen.
Frustrating if true. FFP is a bastard.
Or maybe he isn't a target?
Reports that Palace have agreed £16m for Bowen.
Frustrating if true. FFP is a bastard.
Reports that Palace have agreed £16m for Bowen.
Frustrating if true. FFP is a bastard.
Nothing to apologise about! Wish we were in foir him though. I just don't think we can spend the cash at the momentReports that Palace have agreed £16m for Bowen.
Frustrating if true. FFP is a bastard.
Sorry Chris, I looked and there was nothing on here.
I can see it now ... 'we tried to sign someone but just couldn't get it over the line. so we'll go with what we have'
Reports that Palace have agreed £16m for Bowen.
Frustrating if true. FFP is a bastard.
Or maybe he isn't a target?
Reports that Palace have agreed £16m for Bowen.
Frustrating if true. FFP is a bastard.
Or maybe he isn't a target?
Or maybe we are in for Benteke but it depended on Palace getting the Bowen deal done?
The lack of any links 48 hours out is worrying. We need a striker, centre half and wide player potentially.
Apparently we're in talks for David Selke from Hertha Berlin now.
His clearly had injury problems according to wiki, so could be an uncut diamond
‘The following month, Selke suffered a metatarsal injury in training which was later diagnosed to be a bone-marrow edema, and was ruled out for a number of weeks
In July 2018, Selke suffered a collapsed lung which ruled him out of the start of the 2018–19’
And yet, even with a collapsed lung, he still scored more goals than Hogan.
Both Piatek and Bowen leaving for sums less than speculated and to clubs arguably of a lesser status than Villa (certainly likely to pay less).
Dean refused to be drawn on names today when asked about Sturridge, of course, but he did say "look, ideally you want players who have played at the top level, which is the premier league".
Right. So Sturridge - or Benteke - then.
Brighton would be mad to sell to us when we may be in a head to head relegation battle with them.Dean refused to be drawn on names today when asked about Sturridge, of course, but he did say "look, ideally you want players who have played at the top level, which is the premier league".
Right. So Sturridge - or Benteke - then.
Glenn Murray, come on down.
BBC Sport reported earlier that Giroud will only consider leaving Chelsea for a London club or a club in Europe.
BBC Sport reported earlier that Giroud will only consider leaving Chelsea for a London club or a club in Europe.
Aston is in Europe.
BBC Sport reported earlier that Giroud will only consider leaving Chelsea for a London club or a club in Europe.
BBC Sport reported earlier that Giroud will only consider leaving Chelsea for a London club or a club in Europe.
Aston is in Europe.
BBC Sport reported earlier that Giroud will only consider leaving Chelsea for a London club or a club in Europe.
Aston is in Europe.
Only until tomorrow unfortunately
Now we have Samatta, Benteke could have a real boosting effect and feel good factor
BBC Sport reported earlier that Giroud will only consider leaving Chelsea for a London club or a club in Europe.
Partizani Tirana awaits.
If we don't get another forward in before the deadline it's very poor. After watching Samatta a target man type to complement him would be decent.
Bowen would have been a cherry on top. Would have added so much but I reckon Smith wants Benrahma and is waiting till the summer.
His clearly had injury problems according to wiki, so could be an uncut diamond
‘The following month, Selke suffered a metatarsal injury in training which was later diagnosed to be a bone-marrow edema, and was ruled out for a number of weeks
In July 2018, Selke suffered a collapsed lung which ruled him out of the start of the 2018–19’
Crikey.
When he gets injured, he does it properly. Collapsed lung?
And we might not even be in for him anyway.
I'll stick my neck out and guess a striker and Tuanzebe to make a return.
Regarding Bowen, have I missed something? He's a promising young player in the Championship who's scored a few goals. So was Che adams.The way half the posts are on here have gone on you'd think he was the product of a love tryst between Cruyff and Zidane.
I bet none of you have seen more than about 5 minutes of his total play on Quest.
*sits back, waits for righteous indignation and Mr skillz full scouting report*
Regarding Bowen, have I missed something? He's a promising young player in the Championship who's scored a few goals. So was Che adams.The way half the posts are on here have gone on you'd think he was the product of a love tryst between Cruyff and Zidane.
I bet none of you have seen more than about 5 minutes of his total play on Quest.
*sits back, waits for righteous indignation and Mr skillz full scouting report*
He's been consistently good for three years in the Championship though, unlike one season wonder Adams. Not to worry though, we'll just flex our financial muscle and take him off Palace next year if he turns out to be any good.
Not holding out as much hope, but Tuanzebe back, loan to buy if we stay up would be bostin'. UTV
London is attractive for a lot of players.
London is attractive for a lot of players.
Back as far as 2005 Bruce Langham said it was easier to get player to sign for Fulham than Villa because of the London factor.
London is attractive for a lot of players.
Back as far as 2005 Bruce Langham said it was easier to get player to sign for Fulham than Villa because of the London factor.
On the plus side, that's a useful filter for not recruiting fancy dan show ponies more interested in their off the pitch image than what they do on it.
Even given my bias, I can't see any other measure by which Palace is a better option than Villa.
London is attractive for a lot of players.
Back as far as 2005 Bruce Langham said it was easier to get player to sign for Fulham than Villa because of the London factor.
On the plus side, that's a useful filter for not recruiting fancy dan show ponies more interested in their off the pitch image than what they do on it.
Stupid to let Chessie go to Stoke if true. We need his experience in this relegation scrap. Too many leaving for my liking. We need players in especially a striker ffs!!
Letting Chester go without a replacement is bonkers. As is having 2 strikers, 1 never played this league and 1 made of sugar glass for the rest of the season in a relegation battle.Exactly, I agree on both points.
If rumours are true and Chessie is going to Stoke , such a shame we can’t give him a proper VP send off. If ever someone deserved one, he certainly does. All the best JC , thanks for your contribution the last 3 years or so.Too true
The Vida links seemed pretty solid a couple of weeks back so maybe that deal is pretty much done and was just waiting on us having the space in the squad.
On a slightly tangential point I suspect that's the biggest factor holding us back on signings, we can only register 25 players so having more than that on the books is a bad idea. Obviously We've taken Heaton, Wesley and Kodjia off the list already but we've added Reina, Samatta and Drinkwater so we might be wanting to move people out before we complete deals.
If rumours are true and Chessie is going to Stoke , such a shame we can’t give him a proper VP send off. If ever someone deserved one, he certainly does. All the best JC , thanks for your contribution the last 3 years or so.
If rumours are true and Chessie is going to Stoke , such a shame we can’t give him a proper VP send off. If ever someone deserved one, he certainly does. All the best JC , thanks for your contribution the last 3 years or so.
The Vida links seemed pretty solid a couple of weeks back so maybe that deal is pretty much done and was just waiting on us having the space in the squad.
On a slightly tangential point I suspect that's the biggest factor holding us back on signings, we can only register 25 players so having more than that on the books is a bad idea. Obviously We've taken Heaton, Wesley and Kodjia off the list already but we've added Reina, Samatta and Drinkwater so we might be wanting to move people out before we complete deals.
Think we are ok with the squad registration as I believe Luiz and Davis are young enough to fall into the Under 21 category and therefore don’t count towards the 25 registered players.
The Vida links seemed pretty solid a couple of weeks back so maybe that deal is pretty much done and was just waiting on us having the space in the squad.
On a slightly tangential point I suspect that's the biggest factor holding us back on signings, we can only register 25 players so having more than that on the books is a bad idea. Obviously We've taken Heaton, Wesley and Kodjia off the list already but we've added Reina, Samatta and Drinkwater so we might be wanting to move people out before we complete deals.
Think we are ok with the squad registration as I believe Luiz and Davis are young enough to fall into the Under 21 category and therefore don’t count towards the 25 registered players.
I'm not sure, I think we registered 25 but Luiz was in there so we could use that spot. Davis is too old, it's born in 99 or later that are 'free' this season.
If rumours are true and Chessie is going to Stoke , such a shame we can’t give him a proper VP send off. If ever someone deserved one, he certainly does. All the best JC , thanks for your contribution the last 3 years or so.
The Vida links seemed pretty solid a couple of weeks back so maybe that deal is pretty much done and was just waiting on us having the space in the squad.
On a slightly tangential point I suspect that's the biggest factor holding us back on signings, we can only register 25 players so having more than that on the books is a bad idea. Obviously We've taken Heaton, Wesley and Kodjia off the list already but we've added Reina, Samatta and Drinkwater so we might be wanting to move people out before we complete deals.
Think we are ok with the squad registration as I believe Luiz and Davis are young enough to fall into the Under 21 category and therefore don’t count towards the 25 registered players.
I'm not sure, I think we registered 25 but Luiz was in there so we could use that spot. Davis is too old, it's born in 99 or later that are 'free' this season.
Thought it was any player born on or after 1st January 1998 for this season?
Either way, I think we should be fine from that point of view. I believe we registered Kalinic at the start of the season so that’s another spot.
I think if anything FFP would be a bigger restriction. Might be a case of getting players off the wage bill to be able to bring others in.
So, potentially, Chester to Stoke and Jota to Fulham but one would have thought, if we were deep into negotiations with an incoming player, it would have broken by now?
According to SSN his agent is on record as he’s staying on loan at Monaco.So, potentially, Chester to Stoke and Jota to Fulham but one would have thought, if we were deep into negotiations with an incoming player, it would have broken by now?
Lots of stuff breaks out of nowhere on the last day.
My gut feeling is something will happen with Slimani. Link's not gone away, he's being linked to other prem clubs so clearly Leicester can recall him and he seems to want out of Monaco. My guess is we offer 5m and they'll be a deal.
Is he’s really off we must, must have a replacement at least as good lined up, which is no small thing. If we don’t we deserve what we get.
Harry Kewell is discussing whether Jack Grealish will leave tomorrow on SSN.
My prediction is he will not and you will eat a big fucking kebab, when off air.
Harry Kewell is discussing whether Jack Grealish will leave tomorrow on SSN.
My prediction is he will not and you will eat a big fucking kebab, when off air.
Harry fucking Kewell. What grassy knoll hobbit hole did he crawl out of?
If rumours are true and Chessie is going to Stoke , such a shame we can’t give him a proper VP send off. If ever someone deserved one, he certainly does. All the best JC , thanks for your contribution the last 3 years or so.
I always thought him being subbed on or off (can't remember if he started) v Liverpool was the send off.
Looks like it’s jack shit or bust tomorrow then...hope the management team know what they’re doing and have a few solid irons in the fire bringing players in. The last few performances have been uplifting but our PL survival could very much dependent on what business we and other teams around us do in this window.
Looks like it’s jack shit or bust tomorrow then...hope the management team know what they’re doing and have a few solid irons in the fire bringing players in. The last few performances have been uplifting but our PL survival could very much dependent on what business we and other teams around us do in this window.
Already been caught out once this season and ended up having to play with no recognised forward. If we end up in a position after tomorrow where we still only have two senior strikers (one untried in the league and one with a questionable injury record) it will be bordering on negligent squad management.
I predict 3 in and 3 out today
OUT
Chester
Lansbury
Jota
IN
A prem striker on loan (benteke is front runner)
Vida
The teenager from Ajax Ekkelenkamp
That's my prediction
I predict 3 in and 3 out today
OUT
Chester
Lansbury
Jota
IN
A prem striker on loan (benteke is front runner)
Vida
The teenager from Ajax Ekkelenkamp
That's my prediction
i predict that Purslow, Smith & co. will be eating fish and chips walking along Bournemouth sea front at 5pm today.
RHM off to Derby on loan. He could've been useful as an impact sub in my opinion. We seem to just get rid of our strike force!
RHM off to Derby on loan. He could've been useful as an impact sub in my opinion. We seem to just get rid of our strike force!
Thats an interesting one if true. Having him step up a league will help him and hopefully in the future us.
RHM off to Derby on loan. He could've been useful as an impact sub in my opinion. We seem to just get rid of our strike force!
Thats an interesting one if true. Having him step up a league will help him and hopefully in the future us.
He has never kicked on and must be 21 now. Probably too late to make any impression at PL level
Out
Chester
Jota
In
Noone
Is my prediction.
Out
Chester
Jota
In
Noone
Is my prediction.
Out
Chester
Jota
In
Noone
Is my prediction.
That’s where I am too, which would be incredibly risky.
Bowen for the winner at West Ham last day has a certain inevitably about it.
Bowen for the winner at West Ham last day has a certain inevitably about it.
Only if you worked yourself up into a lather about signing an unproven championship winger that we've never been linked with as far as I can tell.
Haven't we learnt a lesson from Wesley's unfortunate injury?
Come on Villa get a deal for a striker over the line !
Surely there won't be a repeat of August 31st last year??
Bowen for the winner at West Ham last day has a certain inevitably about it.
Only if you worked yourself up into a lather about signing an unproven championship winger that we've never been linked with as far as I can tell.
Out
Chester
Jota
In
Noone
Is my prediction.
That’s where I am too, which would be incredibly risky.
Bowen for the winner at West Ham last day has a certain inevitably about it.
Just had a look at the Hertha Berlin guy Selke’s obligatory you tube greatest hits.Trouble is that for several players who looked “good” on YouTube (Hogan, the gate hopper, Lansbury) we did not walk quickly enough. Selective YouTube clips are no guide.
Walk on by please Villa
We absolutely 100% must sign a decent striker and center back (if Chester is gone). Otherwise we are playing Russian roulette with our season. Interesting next few hours aheadI thought the Russian has gone to Derby.
Bowen for the winner at West Ham last day has a certain inevitably about it.
Only if you worked yourself up into a lather about signing an unproven championship winger that we've never been linked with as far as I can tell.
Out
Chester
Jota
In
Noone
Is my prediction.
Can't see that. He's not done much since Herman's Hermits
We absolutely 100% must sign a decent striker and center back (if Chester is gone). Otherwise we are playing Russian roulette with our season. Interesting next few hours aheadI thought the Russian has gone to Derby.
I don’t believe the pool of players who are potentially available, and affordable, who could improve us is that small. So I think knowing the position with Wesley, and Keinan’s injury record/inexperience it would be a pretty poor show to sign one striker this window. Still hopefully they have something lined up.
Realistically and all things being considered including FFP, we only want a striker to sit on the bench, in the queue behind Davis and Samatta who we can call on in an emergency. I still think it'll be Benteke on loan.
Harry Kewell is discussing whether Jack Grealish will leave tomorrow on SSN.
My prediction is he will not and you will eat a big fucking kebab, when off air.
Harry fucking Kewell. What grassy knoll hobbit hole did he crawl out of?
I think she was in Emmerdale.
Bowen to Spam is far from a done deal by the sound of it, albeit the sound of Twitter.
John Percy reports we will not be signing anyone and we are happy with business
John Percy reports we will not be signing anyone and we are happy with business
John Percy reports we will not be signing anyone and we are happy with business
One injury away from chaos again.
He's still in his protective boot.John Percy reports we will not be signing anyone and we are happy with business
Hmm. It's not bad if (and its a huge IF) we get no further injuries or suspensions. Or maybe McGinn's rehab is ahead of schedule?
McGinn's position is at the lower end of the priority list for me. Hugely risky not getting another forward in.John Percy reports we will not be signing anyone and we are happy with business
Hmm. It's not bad if (and its a huge IF) we get no further injuries or suspensions. Or maybe McGinn's rehab is ahead of schedule?
Bowen to Spam is far from a done deal by the sound of it, albeit the sound of Twitter.If Bowen signed for Palace we would probably get Benteke so unless they have a plan B that would now seem unlikely. Sturridge would be the best of the rest unless we have an ace up our sleeve. Sturridge would score us goals in between injuries so we could pick up some vital points from that. Worth a punt in my view if a deal can be done.
John Percy reports we will not be signing anyone and we are happy with business
John Percy reports we will not be signing anyone and we are happy with business
Davis picks up another knock and we'll go back to Vassilev being main forward on the bench. He'll play his heart out but too much to expect him to be the difference in games we're drawing with 10 minutes left.
John Percy reports we will not be signing anyone and we are happy with business
Some rumours going around on twittwe si probably bollocks but we will be re-signing tunzebe on loan with option to buy to replace chester
John Percy reports we will not be signing anyone and we are happy with business
Where did he say that, there’s nothing on his twitter account?
Very poor business this January, considering injuries, squad depth and that we are in a relegation fight.
To make the same mistake two windows running would seem a bit daft.
Very poor business this January, considering injuries, squad depth and that we are in a relegation fight.
If true about no more signings then very difficult to disagree with this.
We were in desperate need of at least 1 more striker before Wesleys injury, so we should have been getting plans in motion prior to the window opening.
There is a hell of a lot of pressure on Samatta now to be 1: Brilliant. 2: Brilliant immediately. 3: Under no circumstances at all consider picking up an injury.
Good Morning allI presume the club we were hoping to loan / buy from are not prepared to deal, maybe because their own targets have fallen through. Hypothetically, perhaps Palcace would have let us have Benteke if they got Bowen?
Dean said himself we needed another striker after signing Simatta so what has changed ?
Good Morning all
Dean said himself we needed another striker after signing Simatta so what has changed ?
We didn't have enough goals in the team to avoid a relegation fight when we started the season, we look like maintaining that position so prepare to tense your sphincters for the rest of the season.
Any signing made with just the remainder of the season in mind will be a mistake in my opinion, unless it is a loan. On that basis I hope we do not do any business unless it is a Bowen-esquire signing or a decent loan deal.
Sturridge, even Samatta, are just eating up crucial wages for the next three years.
Good Morning all
Dean said himself we needed another striker after signing Simatta so what has changed ?
The problem appears to be that he is not in direct control of transfers and doesn't seem to have real-time updates on the situation. Perhaps Suso gave him positive feedback last weekend and then nothing concrete has been forthcoming since. We know things change very quickly in the January window and it's nearly always a case of In The Shirt, In Front of the Camera before we can count on anything.
My hunch, as others have said, is that we've tried a number of options and none of them have come off, and that's the update we'll get tomorrow after the dust has settled etc.
Having said that, Suso et al have until 11pm tonight to make something happen. Nearly another 12 hours. There's still time.
Any signing made with just the remainder of the season in mind will be a mistake in my opinion, unless it is a loan. On that basis I hope we do not do any business unless it is a Bowen-esquire signing or a decent loan deal.
Sturridge, even Samatta, are just eating up crucial wages for the next three years.
We're in a scrap for survival. So we've no choice but to think primarily about the rest of the season right now.
Purchasing players solely based on future potential is one of the reasons we find ourselves in this situation to begin with.
Very poor business this January, considering injuries, squad depth and that we are in a relegation fight.
If true about no more signings then very difficult to disagree with this.
We were in desperate need of at least 1 more striker before Wesleys injury, so we should have been getting plans in motion prior to the window opening.
There is a hell of a lot of pressure on Samatta now to be 1: Brilliant. 2: Brilliant immediately. 3: Under no circumstances at all consider picking up an injury.
Any signing made with just the remainder of the season in mind will be a mistake in my opinion, unless it is a loan. On that basis I hope we do not do any business unless it is a Bowen-esquire signing or a decent loan deal.
Sturridge, even Samatta, are just eating up crucial wages for the next three years.
We're in a scrap for survival. So we've no choice but to think primarily about the rest of the season right now.
Purchasing players solely based on future potential is one of the reasons we find ourselves in this situation to begin with.
I'd say purchasing crap that has no use to us was a much bigger factor.
Given that two of the signings we've made were replacements for players injured after the transfer window opened, we've improved the squad by one Danny Drinkwater. It defies all logic.
One injury away from relegation. Fucking lunatics.
A little over 24 hours ago we had the euphoria of a 95th minute winner in a semi final. But already the doom and gloom merchants are back predicting relegation and injuries a plenty. Where is your faith, hope and spirit. Don't bother to respond I wont be reading it.
One injury away from relegation. Fucking lunatics.
Any signing made with just the remainder of the season in mind will be a mistake in my opinion, unless it is a loan. On that basis I hope we do not do any business unless it is a Bowen-esquire signing or a decent loan deal.
Sturridge, even Samatta, are just eating up crucial wages for the next three years.
We're in a scrap for survival. So we've no choice but to think primarily about the rest of the season right now.
Purchasing players solely based on future potential is one of the reasons we find ourselves in this situation to begin with.
A little over 24 hours ago we had the euphoria of a 95th minute winner in a semi final. But already the doom and gloom merchants are back predicting relegation and injuries a plenty. Where is your faith, hope and spirit. Don't bother to respond I wont be reading it.
Any signing made with just the remainder of the season in mind will be a mistake in my opinion, unless it is a loan. On that basis I hope we do not do any business unless it is a Bowen-esquire signing or a decent loan deal.
Sturridge, even Samatta, are just eating up crucial wages for the next three years.
We're in a scrap for survival. So we've no choice but to think primarily about the rest of the season right now.
Purchasing players solely based on future potential is one of the reasons we find ourselves in this situation to begin with.
Sorry, I'm talking about the wider picture of being a newly promoted club that has spent a few years in the wilderness.
Any signing made with just the remainder of the season in mind will be a mistake in my opinion, unless it is a loan. On that basis I hope we do not do any business unless it is a Bowen-esquire signing or a decent loan deal.
Sturridge, even Samatta, are just eating up crucial wages for the next three years.
We're in a scrap for survival. So we've no choice but to think primarily about the rest of the season right now.
Purchasing players solely based on future potential is one of the reasons we find ourselves in this situation to begin with.
Sorry, I'm talking about the wider picture of being a newly promoted club that has spent a few years in the wilderness.
Fair enough Lee, I was talking more with a focus on the summer business tbh
If there was even a chance that we could've got Giroud then going for Drinkwater is near-criminal.
If there was even a chance that we could've got Giroud then going for Drinkwater is near-criminal.
John Percy reports we will not be signing anyone and we are happy with business
Where did he say that, there’s nothing on his twitter account?
On his telegraph twitter feed, I thought the same as you
John Percy reports we will not be signing anyone and we are happy with business
Where did he say that, there’s nothing on his twitter account?
On his telegraph twitter feed, I thought the same as you
I can find nothing of the sort on there. Do you have a link?
So, our only two strikers, who are tasked with scoring the goals to keep us in the PL, have started a total of zero PL games between them?
I’m sorry but what the fuck is going on?
I don't care anyway, our form was quite good with no strikers. We've done our lack of form for the season, we're fucking nails now and we're going to charge up that table.
https://twitter.com/TeleFootball/status/1223193295595110400?s=19
Found it (I always fact check 😉)
I'm convinced FFP is what cripling us here. Such a shit system for a club with decent owners who want to progress.
If we don't get a striker with Prem experience, I will be very sad. There, I've said it.So will Deano. He has pretty much said so.
Fucking hell, Danny Rose asked on Sky about his move to Newcastle and said he saw one of their players get injured in a game on TV so he phoned his agent and said he'd like to go there. I've never heard of that before.
Perhaps he relished dusting himself down and rolling his sleeves up?
He is a funny one Danny Rose , quite honest at times not your standard answers
Given that two of the signings we've made were replacements for players injured after the transfer window opened, we've improved the squad by one Danny Drinkwater. It defies all logic.
Given that two of the signings we've made were replacements for players injured after the transfer window opened, we've improved the squad by one Danny Drinkwater. It defies all logic.
Drinkwater in for McGinn.
Reina in for Heaton.
Samata in for Wesley.
We've sold Kodjia.
We've sold Kalinic.
Chester looks like he's going too.
So we're down in numbers and weaker, if that's possible, up front. It's pretty ridiculous isn't it?
However, I am of the opinion that getting someone in because we're desperate rather than someone we really want is pointless.
I can see why we wouldn't need another keeper. I'm happy with what we have. (Jed Steer must be absolutely gutted mind).
Letting Chester go is fine if there's someone to replace him otherwise, as frustrating as it may be for him, tough.
The striker thing is most concerning. Unless they plan to chuck young Barry or Vassilev in, which is nuts.
I'm convinced FFP is what cripling us here. Such a shit system for a club with decent owners who want to progress.
It can be the only sensible explanation.
I bloody hope Samatta is decent
I'm convinced FFP is what cripling us here. Such a shit system for a club with decent owners who want to progress.
It can be the only sensible explanation.
FFP might be a gamble, but then finishing a few places higher would really help with that. I'd rather take that gamble than not get anybody in, because potentially going down would be a lot, lot worse.
Simply not good enough and the recruitment team have failed (Suso)
To leave us one CB injury away and one FW injury away from a crisis is as bad/if not worse than Bruce’s CB experiment days.
Anymore injuries and we are screwed. Squad weaker than it was before window opened. That’s some achievement
I don't want to have a go at anyone, but there is some right knicker-twisting going on here. Chester has been a great servant, but let's be honest - he hasn't played a proper game for us in over 12 months and is off the back of a potentially career-ending injury. We do have cover at CB and we can change formation if needed (once McGinn is fit we might want to anyway if Nakamba and Luiz keep up their improvement). A few weeks ago we were complaining because we didn't have a Plan B - now we have got one, people just want to stick to it and forget all about Plan A!
If we do go down it's not going to be because we let James Chester and Jota go without getting in replacements who are unlikely to play much of a part. I agree we would ideally get another striker in, but it can't be someone for the sake of it (especially when Man City apart we've not actually done too badly without a centre forward) and who could upset the balance of a squad who finally seem to have found a bit of confidence. I'd much rather go with what we have, and get a proper option in the summer.
I don't want to have a go at anyone, but there is some right knicker-twisting going on here. Chester has been a great servant, but let's be honest - he hasn't played a proper game for us in over 12 months and is off the back of a potentially career-ending injury. We do have cover at CB and we can change formation if needed (once McGinn is fit we might want to anyway if Nakamba and Luiz keep up their improvement). A few weeks ago we were complaining because we didn't have a Plan B - now we have got one, people just want to stick to it and forget all about Plan A!
If we do go down it's not going to be because we let James Chester and Jota go without getting in replacements who are unlikely to play much of a part. I agree we would ideally get another striker in, but it can't be someone for the sake of it (especially when Man City apart we've not actually done too badly without a centre forward) and who could upset the balance of a squad who finally seem to have found a bit of confidence. I'd much rather go with what we have, and get a proper option in the summer.
I don't want to have a go at anyone, but there is some right knicker-twisting going on here. Chester has been a great servant, but let's be honest - he hasn't played a proper game for us in over 12 months and is off the back of a potentially career-ending injury. We do have cover at CB and we can change formation if needed (once McGinn is fit we might want to anyway if Nakamba and Luiz keep up their improvement). A few weeks ago we were complaining because we didn't have a Plan B - now we have got one, people just want to stick to it and forget all about Plan A!
If we do go down it's not going to be because we let James Chester and Jota go without getting in replacements who are unlikely to play much of a part. I agree we would ideally get another striker in, but it can't be someone for the sake of it (especially when Man City apart we've not actually done too badly without a centre forward) and who could upset the balance of a squad who finally seem to have found a bit of confidence. I'd much rather go with what we have, and get a proper option in the summer.
We switched to 'Plan B' because 'Plan A' was useless; it wasn't working, and we were going to be relegated playing the way we were playing. You want to go back to that now, yeah?
It's not "getting a striker for the sake of it", it's getting a striker because we bloody well need one to help us stay up.
I'd much rather go with what we have, and get a proper option in the summer.
I'd much rather go with what we have, and get a proper option in the summer.
I'm sure similar logic was espoused in Jan 2016, when the feeling was we should keep our powder dry until the summer and storm the Championship. That went well.
Dude, there's absolutely no fucking way we want to go back to the flat back 4. Other than the Man City fuck up have you seen the difference in results? 7 points from 3 in the league and beating a champions league team in a 2 legged semi final. Which is why, despite my protesting i'm hoping if we can remain injury free we might be ok. If...
Dude, there's absolutely no fucking way we want to go back to the flat back 4. Other than the Man City fuck up have you seen the difference in results? 7 points from 3 in the league and beating a champions league team in a 2 legged semi final. Which is why, despite my protesting i'm hoping if we can remain injury free we might be ok. If...
Agreed.
Dude, there's absolutely no fucking way we want to go back to the flat back 4. Other than the Man City fuck up have you seen the difference in results? 7 points from 3 in the league and beating a champions league team in a 2 legged semi final. Which is why, despite my protesting i'm hoping if we can remain injury free we might be ok. If...
Agreed.
And you would have said that after Man City?
The BBC has the Chester move as a loan, could we not recall him if we have a defensive injury crisis?
The Bowen deal has stalled. Make of that what you will..............
It’s allways been my view that the problem is the midfield and lack of protection of the defense.Dude, there's absolutely no fucking way we want to go back to the flat back 4. Other than the Man City fuck up have you seen the difference in results? 7 points from 3 in the league and beating a champions league team in a 2 legged semi final. Which is why, despite my protesting i'm hoping if we can remain injury free we might be ok. If...
Agreed.
I don't believe I've wet the bed for a good 60+ years, and my Mom drilled into me the importance of putting my underwear on correctly, but this seems like (unless the club pull a virtual rabbit out of the hat) a rather wild gamble on the current forward line.
Admittedly, someone like Bowen at a reported £25m induces a sharp intake of breath, but it illustrates the importance of scoring goals. And anyone gambling our future status on the likes of Davis, who at no point has hinted at having the ability to a) score goals even at Championship level or b) staying fit for more than 5 minutes, has to bear the brunt of close and rather brutal scrutiny in the event of relegation.
And not at fan level - all we can do is wet the bed and get into a knicker catastrophe.
The Bowen deal has stalled. Make of that what you will..............
Leicester are in....
Bowen will give Spam a boost.And they need it badly, which would be a shame, but they still have Moyes in charge.
The Bowen deal has stalled. Make of that what you will..............Reported earlier some issue picked up on medical .....unless any eagle eyed spotters see him arrive at BMH
I'd say there's plenty of reasons we can't get people in, with being abjectly shit for much of a decade, currently sitting 16th, not in London or the northwest, novice manager, all those pretty high on the list.
There is 6 hours to go but it literally feels like fuck all is going to happen which would be a dreadful way to end the window and possibly once again leave us unequipped to deal with the demands for the rest of the season. Even one more striker loan could prove critical. Currently we don't have a forward on the books who has scored one PL goal. And while say a Bowen doesn't change that stat it at least gives us additional options to remain compeitive at that position. Not having depth yet again would be a really terrible position to leave ourselves in.Pedantic point. Big Wes has scored PL goals and is definitely on the books.
The Peterborough lad Ivan Toney is up for sale. 18 goals this season and wouldn't cost the earth.
The Peterborough lad Ivan Toney is up for sale. 18 goals this season and wouldn't cost the earth.
I nearly went into cardiac arrest after misreading your post.
Borja Baston from Swansea according to Welsh media on Twitter
Borja Baston from Swansea according to Welsh media on Twitter
apparently was at Atletico Madrid when Pitarch was there........desparation signing??
The limitations of FFP arricifically handicapping our spending for January.
Borja Baston from Swansea according to Welsh media on Twitter
apparently was at Atletico Madrid when Pitarch was there........desparation signing??
Lots of Prem experience!!!!
Borja Baston from Swansea according to Welsh media on Twitter
The limitations of FFP arricifically handicapping our spending for January.Its got to be playing a part surely.
Can we bring anyone in on loan now? The article the link is from (Wales Online) suggests we can't.
Swansea are going to want to recoup most of the £15m (!) they spent on this donkey, so if breaching Financial Fair Play regulations is an issue, I'd rate chances of this happening to be very small indeed.
Oh ok - well Borja's better than nothing. Talk about scraping the barrel!
Oh ok - well Borja's better than nothing. Talk about scraping the barrel!
He's a tall fella - we could do with someone holdng the ball up and making it stick so Grealish and Targett can get hold of the ball and do their double act. Not sure Samatta can do that role.
Permanent. Strange transfer.
Is that the same John Percy who said we were done several hours ago.Permanent. Strange transfer.
John Percy is saying a short term deal on Twitter. I guess we've offered him a contract for 4 months?
Free transfer?
You’ve got to pity that poor sod whose move from Wigan to AC Milan has collapsed after he’d been flown toItaly by private jet.
You’ve got to pity that poor sod whose move from Wigan to AC Milan has collapsed after he’d been flown toItaly by private jet.
Noooo! Really? Poor kid. I was hoping he would be another example of a young English footballer having a go on the continent. We need more of them to try it.
I keep thinking of Buju Banton....
Borja Baston aged 27. 10 goals in 34 games for Deportivo, 22 in 38 for Zaragoza 18 in 36 for Elbar.
Let's hope he scores more often than Brendon Batson used to.
You’ve got to pity that poor sod whose move from Wigan to AC Milan has collapsed after he’d been flown toItaly by private jet.
Pato Banton? I preferred his work with The Beat to his UB40 stuff.
I keep thinking of Buju Banton....I hope it was just "bants" and we bring in a quality striker before 11pm
For someone who cost Swansea 15.5 million pounds when he signed from Athletico MadridWhat did i do?
3 years ago, and is costing us basically nada,Borja could yet prove to be a bargain.
, his record of 92 goals in 279 games ain't too ducking fusty .Golden Boot winner in the Under 17 World Cup a few years back, is also on his resume. He's not the 'star; striker we
were hoping for butwe should give the guy a chance, after all, with the ' Russian' off to Darby on loan he will probably spend a lot of time on the bench , who knows, he would'nt be the first BARGAIN buy to surprise us all( see Mings.T and Ny;land.O ) ood luck to you ' Edge'............Godzvilla!!
Yep, Bowen is the biggest disappointment of the window for me. A solid signing who would have actually improved us, rather than just make up the numbers.
I reckon we could have got him too, with his family's links to the Villa. Gutted if he ends up working for the Porno Dwarf! :(
Oh as an aside I fucking hate the term “Done Deal”
West Ham are still going down, Bowen or not.
Baston? Is he as good as RHM or Kodjia? Smacks of complete and utter desperation. Where is the quality in our dealings this winter window? Cack. I hope it works but fuck sake, gaping hole in midfield, right central defence is vulnerable, Ally is completely untested.We don’t know the answer yet but RHM was in and out of Tranmere’s team who are struggling in division 1 and Kodja looked poor to me on the few occasions he featured in the league. With any luck we won’t be seeing too much of our third choice striker anyway in these last 14 league games.
Fitness will be a big thing. Kodjia, as Dean said wasn't ever fit enough.Baston? Is he as good as RHM or Kodjia? Smacks of complete and utter desperation. Where is the quality in our dealings this winter window? Cack. I hope it works but fuck sake, gaping hole in midfield, right central defence is vulnerable, Ally is completely untested.We don’t know the answer yet but RHM was in and out of Tranmere’s team who are struggling in division 1 and Kodja looked poor to me on the few occasions he featured in the league. With any luck we won’t be seeing too much of our third choice striker anyway in these last 14 league games.
I couldnt care less about Bowen going to Westham. Like Maupay in the summer, the only annoying thing about it is that this sites now going to be littered with updates every time he so much as farts.
Baston, short term squad filler. Low cost. 3rd choice in pecking order. Not glamorous at all and serious questions needed in the summer about our recruitment/Suso, but this is pretty sensible.
Lads scored more goals over recent years than benteke...........
Sky are really struggling to make this deadline day look interesting
Sky are really struggling to make this deadline day look interesting
Can someone who knows about FFP explain to a simpleton like me how Bournemouth can spend £10M plus on at least three strikers whilst averaging 12k and generating significantly less commercial revenue than us, yet we are taking Swansea’s rubbish out for them?
Can someone who knows about FFP explain to a simpleton like me how Bournemouth can spend £10M plus on at least three strikers whilst averaging 12k and generating significantly less commercial revenue than us, yet we are taking Swansea’s rubbish out for them?Yes it is a conundrum, although they have a rich owner and like several premier League clubs, they don't actually need anyone to turn up at their matches to make money
Can someone who knows about FFP explain to a simpleton like me how Bournemouth can spend £10M plus on at least three strikers whilst averaging 12k and generating significantly less commercial revenue than us, yet we are taking Swansea’s rubbish out for them?Yes it is a conundrum, although they have a rich owner and like several premier League clubs, they don't actually need anyone to turn up at their matches to make money
Yes, so that's another conundrumCan someone who knows about FFP explain to a simpleton like me how Bournemouth can spend £10M plus on at least three strikers whilst averaging 12k and generating significantly less commercial revenue than us, yet we are taking Swansea’s rubbish out for them?Yes it is a conundrum, although they have a rich owner and like several premier League clubs, they don't actually need anyone to turn up at their matches to make money
I thought our owners (cue Harry Enfield) were significantly richer than most?
Can someone who knows about FFP explain to a simpleton like me how Bournemouth can spend £10M plus on at least three strikers whilst averaging 12k and generating significantly less commercial revenue than us, yet we are taking Swansea’s rubbish out for them?Yes it is a conundrum, although they have a rich owner and like several premier League clubs, they don't actually need anyone to turn up at their matches to make money
I thought our owners (cue Harry Enfield) were significantly richer than most?
I don’t see the point of FFP. Clubs can still rack up a lot of debt go down and still be in the mire
Can someone who knows about FFP explain to a simpleton like me how Bournemouth can spend £10M plus on at least three strikers whilst averaging 12k and generating significantly less commercial revenue than us, yet we are taking Swansea’s rubbish out for them?
Sky now saying another signing, is in the offing, no more info,yet......Godzvilla!
Phonetically, Borja sounds like my wife cursing god in Polish!
Can someone who knows about FFP explain to a simpleton like me how Bournemouth can spend £10M plus on at least three strikers whilst averaging 12k and generating significantly less commercial revenue than us, yet we are taking Swansea’s rubbish out for them?
Sky now saying another signing, is in the offing, no more info,yet......Godzvilla!
Meaning Baston, or another as well as him?
This shows how little business there's been this window so far
https://talksport.com/football/650776/
I’m quite happy with our transfer window with our hands tied because of ffp
couple of strikers and the young lad Barry fill much needed holes
and we seem well covered in the goalkeeping area now
I still think Drinkwater is a mistake though and is a bit rubbish
but when he’s putting in good performances and I don’t mean the level of Watford one, my bar is set higher than that I will gladly hold my hands up
in the meantime I won’t hold my breath
But on the whole I think we did well
Yep, it's their 'breaking' news ...BastonSky now saying another signing, is in the offing, no more info,yet......Godzvilla!
Meaning Baston, or another as well as him?
I’m quite happy with our transfer window with our hands tied because of ffp
couple of strikers and the young lad Barry fill much needed holes
and we seem well covered in the goalkeeping area now
I still think Drinkwater is a mistake though and is a bit rubbish
but when he’s putting in good performances and I don’t mean the level of Watford one, my bar is set higher than that I will gladly hold my hands up
in the meantime I won’t hold my breath
But on the whole I think we did well
Barry is about ten years old, he won’t be anywhere near the first team this season.
I’m quite happy with our transfer window with our hands tied because of ffp
couple of strikers and the young lad Barry fill much needed holes
and we seem well covered in the goalkeeping area now
I still think Drinkwater is a mistake though and is a bit rubbish
but when he’s putting in good performances and I don’t mean the level of Watford one, my bar is set higher than that I will gladly hold my hands up
in the meantime I won’t hold my breath
But on the whole I think we did well
Barry is about ten years old, he won’t be anywhere near the first team this season.
Yeah I know he’s one for the future
Still good business in this window though
And Sheffield Utd and Celtic were interested in Neil Taylor as well, but we resisted
Apparently we turned down Ighalo last night.
Danny Rose for Newcastle Mr Shin. The Barcodes did ok.
Danny Rose for Newcastle Mr Shin. The Barcodes did ok.
Ta. It's a c&p job so any mistakes are not mine!
West Ham already had enough quality to stay up, unfortunately.My Hammers mate is more worried about the Moyes effect than the lack of quality.
Even with Moyes.
This shows how little business there's been this window so far
https://talksport.com/football/650776/
Jesus what a dire window!
I think this may be the death of the January window as far as massive deals goes
Well, that window was massively uninspiring. I can't really say that Suso has done much to enhance his reputation since he's been here.he's certainly not unearthed any nuggets for Smith
West Ham have got a 45 million centre forward, a 40 million attacking midfielder and now Bowen. If that squad doesn't drag itself to 6 or 7 wins by the end of the season it proves how shit Moyes is. But... Moyes wins games, it's what he does. According to Moyes.
Well, that window was massively uninspiring. I can't really say that Suso has done much to enhance his reputation since he's been here.
Well, that window was massively uninspiring. I can't really say that Suso has done much to enhance his reputation since he's been here.he's certainly not unearthed any nuggets for Smith
I may like my stats but there's no way i'm checking everyone's transfer business, even i'm not that much of a sad fecker, hard as that is to believe!struggling with that one PWS ;) ......only kidding buddy
Well, that window was massively uninspiring. I can't really say that Suso has done much to enhance his reputation since he's been here.he's certainly not unearthed any nuggets for Smith
We’ve seen Samatta for 60 minutes. No way can we be sure he’s not been an astute signing.
Who in the league has had a brilliant window? I don't think there's a single set of fans who are entirely satisfied. Everyone bar the top three wanted signings to improve things and didn't get 'enough.' This is january. The winter window is becoming more and more difficult to deal in. I think Samatta will prove to be a good signing. We've probably enquired about the likes of Benteke, Slimani, maybe Giroud. It would seem those options we'd have preferred on loan as they're big money gambles, but the respective clubs were more interested in cashing in. As far as proven forwards available, that wouldn't have been potentially dangerously expensive, who was around?
I also think we'd have been hesitant to get another Samatta type signing. He wasn't massive money, but he wasn't cheap.
I don't think we've had a really game changing January since Bent, and before him Carew/Young. This is as per...Not just for us, most clubs.
He was for sure, albeit at the lower level. It's even harder in this division I think to really have the kind of January that can completely turn a season.Who in the league has had a brilliant window? I don't think there's a single set of fans who are entirely satisfied. Everyone bar the top three wanted signings to improve things and didn't get 'enough.' This is january. The winter window is becoming more and more difficult to deal in. I think Samatta will prove to be a good signing. We've probably enquired about the likes of Benteke, Slimani, maybe Giroud. It would seem those options we'd have preferred on loan as they're big money gambles, but the respective clubs were more interested in cashing in. As far as proven forwards available, that wouldn't have been potentially dangerously expensive, who was around?
I also think we'd have been hesitant to get another Samatta type signing. He wasn't massive money, but he wasn't cheap.
I don't think we've had a really game changing January since Bent, and before him Carew/Young. This is as per...Not just for us, most clubs.
Tyrone Deon Mings says hello.
I am struggling to see the point in switching a player out if contract in June (Kodjia) that struggled at Prem level, for another player out if contract in June that has struggled at a lower level.
Even Hogan has a better record in English football.
Not sure we’ve done anywhere near enough to counter the lack of goals in the team. And didn’t DS say only yesterday that we were looking at players with PL quality and experience?
If we were looking at this window to solve squad quality and depth problems, I don’t think it’s been a success.
Mings was game-changing. None of the latest recruits look likely to be, but who knows?
This is the first squad I’ve felt I identify with in yonks and generally am enjoying being a Villa fan more now than easily since the beginning of the MON era. I suggest others try and enjoy the ride too before it passes you by...Well said
Mings was game-changing. None of the latest recruits look likely to be, but who knows?
With his mentality Reina could well be a Mings type influence on the pitch imo.
Just to show some of the younger players it's actually o.k to compete and actually take a point or three off "top" teams Spurs and Arsenal.
If we stay up, there will be a lot of potential for bigger signings.
I was speaking to a friend the other day about football. He's a Liverpool fan and obviously pleased with the season. He's an ex-player at lower league and academy levels and was a goalkeeper until injury finished him.
He was saying how amazing he feels Reina is, and disappointment Liverpool haven't gone back in for him (not as Number 1). Great communicator, experienced and level-headed. I hope we keep him when Heaton is fit.