We've played at least 1 friendly at Oxford since they moved
I would nt trust this draw as it can't be seen
It's already been done
Surely they'll pick out a few big ties for the drama !
Villa at 28/1 outright winner .
Decent enough price before draw as odds can shift depending on opposition.
Pre draw quarter final odds.
Manchester City 6/5
Liverpool 3/1
Manchester Utd 6/1
Leicester 7/1
Everton 10/1
Aston Villa 28/1
Oxford 250/1
Colchester 500/1
Draw numbers
1. Everton
2. Aston Villa
3.Manchester City
4.Leicester
5.Colchester
6.Manchester United
7.Oxford Utd
8.Liverpool
How much longer do I have to listen to Zoe Ball’s witless chuntering before she does the draw. She’s setting my teeth on edge.
The fuckin Time Warp?! FFS.
What's the betting Man U draw either Oxford or Colchester?There you go.
EFL in Liverpool discussions
Liverpool boss Jurgen Klopp said his side will not be able to play their Carabao Cup quarter-final if the fixture cannot be rearranged to avoid a clash with the Fifa Club World Cup.
An EFL spokesman said: “The EFL is in discussions with Liverpool FC to identify an alternative date given the club’s participation in the Fifa Club World Cup competition.”
Quel surprise
Just about the worst draw to get :(
If they can't meet their competition commitments do we get a walk?
Just about the worst draw to get :(
Not really - They will field a much weaker side than the one we will see from them on Saturday. It will be an ideal opportunity for them to rest their first teamers.
Just about the worst draw to get :(
Aren’t they in Qatar for these games?Yep. They had the West ham game postponed on the 21st because of it. They'll go subs, reserves and kids....we have a chance.
In fairness Man U did draw Chelsea in the last round. Pretty shit draw. Guarantees that we probably have to beat at least two and probably three of the top sides to win it. You've always got a chance if you have to beat one. Two or three? Very little chance.
The only positive out of that is that for Liverpool and Man City this competition is bottom of their priorities. Clipity is already bemoaning the amount of games they’re playing.
Zero chance. We will have to beat Liverpool and two of Man City/Man Utd/Leicester to win the cup. Ffs.Zero chance? Get a grip man.
Liverpool knew when the League Cup dates were before the competition started, they know when the World Club thingy is.It will be though because they are everybody’s favorite team.
If they didn't think that they could play all the games, they should have not entered the League Cup.
The Villa game should not be moved to accommodate Liverpool.
Zero chance. We will have to beat Liverpool and two of Man City/Man Utd/Leicester to win the cup. Ffs.Zero chance? Get a grip man.
The only positive out of that is that for Liverpool and Man City this competition is bottom of their priorities. Clipity is already bemoaning the amount of games they’re playing.
Man. City have won this competition for last two years, their second string is as strong as pretty much all the teams left. Played a pretty team team v Southampton.
Just about the worst draw to get :(No. Possibly the best draw other than Oxford and Colchester. Man City would have been the worst draw possible as they don’t have a reserve team.
Just about the worst draw to get :(No. Possibly the best draw other than Oxford and Colchester. Man City would have been the worst draw possible as they don’t have a reserve team.
I really am sick of these clubs moaning about being in so many competitions and it not being fair - isn't that why you spend gazillions on a squad.
If you don't want to play then drop out - its that simple.
I bet when the winter break kicks in the same clubs will be dragging their squads all around the world for "warm weather training" playing a game in Dubai etc
Zero chance. We will have to beat Liverpool and two of Man City/Man Utd/Leicester to win the cup. Ffs.Zero chance? Get a grip man.
I really am sick of these clubs moaning about being in so many competitions and it not being fair - isn't that why you spend gazillions on a squad..
If you don't want to play then drop out - its that simple.
I bet when the winter break kicks in the same clubs will be dragging their squads all around the world for "warm weather training" playing a game in Dubai etc
Aren't the semi finals the week of Jan 6thFA Cup kicks in that week aswell to add to the congestion.
We should refuse all date changes, it's simply not our problem
I really am sick of these clubs moaning about being in so many competitions and it not being fair - isn't that why you spend gazillions on a squad.
If you don't want to play then drop out - its that simple.
I bet when the winter break kicks in the same clubs will be dragging their squads all around the world for "warm weather training" playing a game in Dubai etc
Quite. The one that gets me is foreign managers moaning about the crowded festive fixture schedule in England.
Yes it’s a bit barmy but it’s tradition here, we quite like it and you’re paid a fortune to deal with it.
I really am sick of these clubs moaning about being in so many competitions and it not being fair - isn't that why you spend gazillions on a squad.
If you don't want to play then drop out - its that simple.
I bet when the winter break kicks in the same clubs will be dragging their squads all around the world for "warm weather training" playing a game in Dubai etc
Quite. The one that gets me is foreign managers moaning about the crowded festive fixture schedule in England.
Yes it’s a bit barmy but it’s tradition here, we quite like it and you’re paid a fortune to deal with it.
I really am sick of these clubs moaning about being in so many competitions and it not being fair - isn't that why you spend gazillions on a squad..
If you don't want to play then drop out - its that simple.
I bet when the winter break kicks in the same clubs will be dragging their squads all around the world for "warm weather training" playing a game in Dubai etc
I don't disagree with the gist of your post, but they're not allowed to drop out, are they? I'm sure some already would have done if they were permitted to do so.
I really am sick of these clubs moaning about being in so many competitions and it not being fair - isn't that why you spend gazillions on a squad..
If you don't want to play then drop out - its that simple.
I bet when the winter break kicks in the same clubs will be dragging their squads all around the world for "warm weather training" playing a game in Dubai etc
I don't disagree with the gist of your post, but they're not allowed to drop out, are they? I'm sure some already would have done if they were permitted to do so.
Err the Red filth and the FA cup - and according to some with the FA's blessing
I really am sick of these clubs moaning about being in so many competitions and it not being fair - isn't that why you spend gazillions on a squad..
If you don't want to play then drop out - its that simple.
I bet when the winter break kicks in the same clubs will be dragging their squads all around the world for "warm weather training" playing a game in Dubai etc
I don't disagree with the gist of your post, but they're not allowed to drop out, are they? I'm sure some already would have done if they were permitted to do so.
Err the Red filth and the FA cup - and according to some with the FA's blessing
I assume that there lot will get all of the North Stand
Hopefully they will have to play there reserves, but knowing the FA, we will be playing on a date that suits them
I bet SKY are hoping for a City V Utd Final.
I really am sick of these clubs moaning about being in so many competitions and it not being fair - isn't that why you spend gazillions on a squad..
If you don't want to play then drop out - its that simple.
I bet when the winter break kicks in the same clubs will be dragging their squads all around the world for "warm weather training" playing a game in Dubai etc
I don't disagree with the gist of your post, but they're not allowed to drop out, are they? I'm sure some already would have done if they were permitted to do so.
Err the Red filth and the FA cup - and according to some with the FA's blessing
Yes, they were told to drop out as a one off in an exception circumstance. Teams aren't allowed to drop out under normal circumstances.
I assume that there lot will get all of the North Stand
Hopefully they will have to play there reserves, but knowing the FA, we will be playing on a date that suits them
I bet SKY are hoping for a City V Utd Final.
The draw looks a bit dodgy with Citeh and Yanited getting the easy ties. Surprise, surprise...
Wasn't it a ply ploy to try and curry favour with Fifa with our World Cup bid?
I really am sick of these clubs moaning about being in so many competitions and it not being fair - isn't that why you spend gazillions on a squad..
If you don't want to play then drop out - its that simple.
I bet when the winter break kicks in the same clubs will be dragging their squads all around the world for "warm weather training" playing a game in Dubai etc
I don't disagree with the gist of your post, but they're not allowed to drop out, are they? I'm sure some already would have done if they were permitted to do so.
Err the Red filth and the FA cup - and according to some with the FA's blessing
Yes, they were told to drop out as a one off in an exception circumstance. Teams aren't allowed to drop out under normal circumstances.
Wasn't it a ply ploy to try and curry favour with Fifa with our World Cup bid?
Assuming that it will be moved, is there actually any other possible date available other than at the start of January and therefore moving the semi-final date?
Our game will be played in January. Don't get your hopes up. Remember... this is Villa.Let’s hope VAR are not deciding !
I like conspiracy theories as much as the next man, but do people seriously think the BBC, Zoe Ball and David James are going to get involved in a fixed draw just to benefit Manchester cluns? Why on earth would they do that?I assume that there lot will get all of the North Stand
Hopefully they will have to play there reserves, but knowing the FA, we will be playing on a date that suits them
I bet SKY are hoping for a City V Utd Final.
The draw looks a bit dodgy with Citeh and Yanited getting the easy ties. Surprise, surprise...
Every competition benefits financially when Man U are in it because of the global interest. Now imagine the hype and advertising potential if it became an all Manchester final.
I like conspiracy theories as much as the next man, but do people seriously think the BBC, Zoe Ball and David James are going to get involved in a fixed draw just to benefit Manchester cluns? Why on earth would they do that?I assume that there lot will get all of the North Stand
Hopefully they will have to play there reserves, but knowing the FA, we will be playing on a date that suits them
I bet SKY are hoping for a City V Utd Final.
The draw looks a bit dodgy with Citeh and Yanited getting the easy ties. Surprise, surprise...
Every competition benefits financially when Man U are in it because of the global interest. Now imagine the hype and advertising potential if it became an all Manchester final.
Also, I'm not sure why Liverpool are getting flack for this (much as I dislike them). It's not their fault they're in two competitions scheduled to play at the same time. The EFL are responsible for scheduling the league cup and should have a contingency for this eventuality. Asking Liverpool to play both at the same time is ludicrous.
I assume that there lot will get all of the North Stand
Hopefully they will have to play there reserves, but knowing the FA, we will be playing on a date that suits them
I bet SKY are hoping for a City V Utd Final.
The draw looks a bit dodgy with Citeh and Yanited getting the easy ties. Surprise, surprise...
I assume that there lot will get all of the North Stand
Hopefully they will have to play there reserves, but knowing the FA, we will be playing on a date that suits them
I bet SKY are hoping for a City V Utd Final.
The draw looks a bit dodgy with Citeh and Yanited getting the easy ties. Surprise, surprise...
Yes, Zoe Ball must be a United fan... I always knew she was in the employ of the lizard people. Check paranoia levels...
Also, I'm not sure why Liverpool are getting flack for this (much as I dislike them). It's not their fault they're in two competitions scheduled to play at the same time. The EFL are responsible for scheduling the league cup and should have a contingency for this eventuality. Asking Liverpool to play both at the same time is ludicrous.
Much as I dislike them, I agree. And it should at least be possible for a team to compete to win every trophy available to them. In the hugely unlikely event that Villa ever find ouselves in that position, I would be annoyed at being forced to withdraw or play a youth team in one competition, especially when you have already made it through as far as the Quarter-Finals.
The fairest thing is clearly to play the game in January.
I'm still hoping for an unfair outcome resulting in Villa getting a bye or playing Liverpool Schoolboys though, obviously.
Why has this issue only been spotted now?
Why has this issue only been spotted now?
Well, it wasn't an issue until 10pm last night.
Why has this issue only been spotted now?
Well, it wasn't an issue until 10pm last night.
I’d like to think clubs plan their fixtures more than one round at a time.
If we play our first team against their reserves then we should compete against them.
Breaking news on BBC Sport:QuoteEFL in Liverpool discussions
Liverpool boss Jurgen Klopp said his side will not be able to play their Carabao Cup quarter-final if the fixture cannot be rearranged to avoid a clash with the Fifa Club World Cup.
An EFL spokesman said: “The EFL is in discussions with Liverpool FC to identify an alternative date given the club’s participation in the Fifa Club World Cup competition.”
He's bricking it.
Just about the worst draw to get :(No. Possibly the best draw other than Oxford and Colchester. Man City would have been the worst draw possible as they don’t have a reserve team.
Stand our groundI suspect you not attending in Jan will be fairly low down their priorities when considering this fixture.
If we refuse what can they do? That is the week those fixtures take place. I will not attend if moved to January.
But not just Fred I can't be there in January either.....so there.Stand our groundI suspect you not attending in Jan will be fairly low down their priorities when considering this fixture.
If we refuse what can they do? That is the week those fixtures take place. I will not attend if moved to January.
Stand our ground
If we refuse what can they do? That is the week those fixtures take place. I will not attend if moved to January.
And eat our children.Stand our ground
If we refuse what can they do? That is the week those fixtures take place. I will not attend if moved to January.
They can expel us from the cup, report us to the FA and have us ultimately banned from every Uefa-affiliated competition.
Liverpool and the English football league have discussed the possibility of Jurgen Klopp fielding two different teams, in two different competitions, in two different time zones on the same night to resolve the club’s fixture chaos.
The most likely night for Liverpool to travel to Aston Villa in the Carabao Cup quarter-final is January 8, when the first leg of the semi-finals are scheduled to be played. Liverpool are happy to use that date, recognising there is little alternative without serious compromise to the quality of the squad in the last eight.
But during talks with the competition organisers, the possibility of Liverpool playing a team of youngsters at Villa Park on either December 17 or 18 was raised. That would create history as Klopp and his senior team will be in Qatar, where they play the semi-final of the Fifa World Club championships on December 18. A Liverpool team would have to play a senior fixture either on the same day, or within 24 hours of each other, in different continents.
Klopp made eleven changes to his line-up for the round four victory over Arsenal, but he still included senior stars such as Adam Lallana, Divock Origi, James Milner, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain and Naby Keita in his line-up. Teenagers Rhian Brewster and Harvey Elliott have also been regular squad members this season and would most likely be part of the travelling party in Qatar.
That means it would demand even more changes to the Liverpool Carabao Cup squad to fulfil their fixture, making it less likely to go ahead in December. As well as requiring 36 players to cover both games, Liverpool would have to decide who managed the team at Villa Park.
A decision is expected soon with Klopp increasing the pressure on the EFL by threatening to withdraw Liverpool from the competition if a sensible solution is not found.
With the Football Association and Premier League also involved in the talks, January is the most likely date. The winners of the tie would then play their semi-final, first leg on the date originally pencilled in for the second leg later in January (Jan 28-29) with the subsequent second leg taking place in February. The final is scheduled to take place at Wembley on March 1.
Klopp has often protested against the fixture scheduling, and there may be a sense of perverse pleasure at the focusing of minds and logistical nightmare Liverpool’s success has caused the organisers. The Liverpool manager has been able to raise awareness of the physical impossibility of fulfilling every domestic fixture while Uefa and Fifa continue to add games to the football calendar.
Despite Klopp’s withdrawal warning, there is little prospect of the EFL failing to find a solution as they understand the situation and are seeking to protect the integrity of the competition. Liverpool could disqualify themselves by refusing to agree to a date, but talks are ongoing.
According to the cup rules, any club failing to fulfil its obligations in respect to any match on the appointed date will be deemed guilty of misconduct and liable to pay compensation to their opponent.
If it got that far, the compensation figure would be determined by a disciplinary commission at a later date.
Unfair as it would be, a bye to the semis and Liverpool forced to compensate us for lost earnings would be hilarious 🤣I would hate that but if it helps the
I don’t see what the fuss is all about, Liverpool were perfectly happy to play their kids last night, so why wouldn’t they do it in the quarter-final? It’s not really much of a comparison is it, be named as the best football club in the world by winning the world super cup or compete in some low-level cup competition which will only give you a Europa place. They have a huge squad and can compete in both games, with youth coaches or assistants managing the EFL game.
The only way to stop clubs moaning about having too many games to play is for them to be less successful. They cannot have it both ways.
I don’t see what the fuss is all about, Liverpool were perfectly happy to play their kids last night, so why wouldn’t they do it in the quarter-final? It’s not really much of a comparison is it, be named as the best football club in the world by winning the world super cup or compete in some low-level cup competition which will only give you a Europa place. They have a huge squad and can compete in both games, with youth coaches or assistants managing the EFL game.
The only way to stop clubs moaning about having too many games to play is for them to be less successful. They cannot have it both ways.
Think the problem here is for Fifa events they always insist on 23 man squads being submitted so Liverpool would have to take many of those young players to Qatar as cover for main 11.
I don't have an issue with it being in January. I remember years back our game at Blackburn got called off from snow so think the schedule got pushed back a week.
I don’t see what the fuss is all about, Liverpool were perfectly happy to play their kids last night, so why wouldn’t they do it in the quarter-final? It’s not really much of a comparison is it, be named as the best football club in the world by winning the world super cup or compete in some low-level cup competition which will only give you a Europa place. They have a huge squad and can compete in both games, with youth coaches or assistants managing the EFL game.
The only way to stop clubs moaning about having too many games to play is for them to be less successful. They cannot have it both ways.
Think the problem here is for Fifa events they always insist on 23 man squads being submitted so Liverpool would have to take many of those young players to Qatar as cover for main 11.
I don't have an issue with it being in January. I remember years back our game at Blackburn got called off from snow so think the schedule got pushed back a week.
The real problem here is that fifa have invented a pointless competition that they insist is played in the middle of the season. Fuck it off.
I don't really mind that concept. There is no reason why Europe (and to an extent South America) should have exclusive domination of world football and the FIFA Club World Cup and its proposed 24-team successor are events where African, Asian, North American and Oceanian clubs can, at least in theory, have their moment in the spotlight. In any case the 24-team competition would only take place every four years so would lead to a reduction in disruption, not an increase.
Also worth pointing out that England has sent teams before without this level of confusion. The problem this season is that they brought the League Cup Quarter-Finals forward to accommodate a (pointless) two week break for each club in February. That's the fault of the Premier League, not due to any chicanery on FIFA's part.
The future of the League Cup is far more threatened from within Europe than from outside it. France is abolishing its version after this season, meaning only England now offers the winner a European spot.
It has been speculated that Premier League clubs will be able to opt out of the League Cup, once proposals to increase the number of Champions League games by 50% are voted through some time early in the next decade. That would almost certainly see its Europa League place removed and sound the death knoll of the competition.
FIFA are also planning to expand this world club thing to 24 teams - they really are a bunch of pricks.
We should give them a selection of dates we are happy with. Let’s hope we aren’t been dictated to.
We should give them a selection of dates we are happy with. Let’s hope we aren’t been dictated to.
We should give them a selection of dates we are happy with. Let’s hope we aren’t been dictated to.
If the dates we want aren't available because Liverpool are abroad, that's hardly their fault, is it? I don't really understand why people seem to have their backs up about this. We have had matches rearranged due to opponents' cup requirements for years. Not sure why everyone seems to have gone full Fight Them On The Beaches about it this time. Would playing a match a few days before a Third Round cup match in which we will likely rest loads of players be that much of a hardship?
Obviously, I'd prefer a bye or to play Liverpool's kids in December, but they haven't actually done anything wrong on this occasion.
They knew there would be a clash. So make them play the kids. They had no problem with playing the kids the other night.
I think we should be helpful in this situation because we may need the favour back in two years time when we're playing in it.
Out of interest when did we play I think Penarol in the final of that in 1982, mid season or a later date? I assume we had to miss a league game or two given it was held back then in Tokyo.
I think we should be helpful in this situation because we may need the favour back in two years time when we're playing in it.
I don't get your post Brassneck the semi finals are two legged and does it really matter who gets through first
And was the first leg on a Friday?
And was the first leg on a Friday?
Yep
First leg was Weds 16th, second leg was Sunday 27th.We were probably out of the FA cup at third round as Saturday 26 Jan would have been the fourth round day.
Quite why the League Cup still has the semis over two legs I will never understand.
As a result, we will be utilising two playing squads simultaneously, with one squad participating in the FIFA Club World Cup in Qatar and another in the Carabao Cup.
https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/first-team/372222-club-statement-carabao-cup-aston-villaQuoteAs a result, we will be utilising two playing squads simultaneously, with one squad participating in the FIFA Club World Cup in Qatar and another in the Carabao Cup.
Not sure it's better for us given that their subs improved them and battered us for the last 10 mins on Saturday.
Hopefully Dean puts out a strong enough team to dispatch whatever team turns up wearing Liverpool shirts. Take it seriously and get to the semi final please.
The decision makes a nonsense of a competition which is already in terminal decline.
The decision makes a nonsense of a competition which is already in terminal decline.
Really devalues the competition. Will Deano pick a full-strength team?
The decision makes a nonsense of a competition which is already in terminal decline.
Last round
Villa Park 34k (alledgedly)
Anfield 52k
Chelsea 38k
Man city 37k
Everton 38k
Not too shabby.
No win for us potentially. Lose and we get mocked. Win and it will be "you only beat their kids". Would love us to win this tournament.I’ve heard that said about us beating Brighton and Wolves so let’s go for the hat trick. It’s not our doing or problem
It would be rather embarassing to lose the tie, wouldn't it?
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Our @Carabao_Cup Quarter-Final clash with Liverpool has been confirmed for Tuesday 17 December (7:45pm KO) as originally scheduled. 📆
This game has been selected for live coverage by Sky Sports and ticket information will be released in due course.
They knew their first team wouldn't fluke a second result against us so this is their way of saving face and letting the second and third string take the pasting they know they'll get.This.
Its great for us fans, 3 games in 7 days... not so much for the players...
i don’t think this game will be decided on the team Liverpool put out but by the team we put out
Liverpool will field a strong team as they can compete in the Qatar bollocks with their reserve team.
Hope it's not a repeat of the last time we played them at VP in December in this competition.
I do actually have a small amount of sympathy for Liverpool.
I do actually have a small amount of sympathy for Liverpool.
Never ever have any level of amount of sympathy for Liverpool Football Club. Ever, ever. Never. Ever.
Ever.
Will Salah get a visa? Haven't Qatar fallen out with all the other Arabs?It's the other way round as most Arab countries have fallen out with Qatar so I assume they will be grateful for a famous Egyptian coming to their horrible country unless that is the Egyptian authorities threaten Salah with a fate worse than Sadat's.
After all the fuss about the date and all the media attention, it would be the most Villa thing ever to lose to their U18s and we'd never hear the end of it.
Not sure it's better for us given that their subs improved them and battered us for the last 10 mins on Saturday.
How do you know, you said you stopped watching on 81 minutes.
Will Salah get a visa? Haven't Qatar fallen out with all the other Arabs?It's the other way round as most Arab countries have fallen out with Qatar so I assume they will be grateful for a famous Egyptian coming to their horrible country unless that is the Egyptian authorities threaten Salah with a fate worse than Sadat's.
I'm hoping to get tickets to this. Do you think they'll go on general release?
There's a few thousand tickets available for the Newcastle Home match and they go on General Sale tomorrow.
suggests the excitement is wearing off , might be our first non sell-out so I think anyone wanting tickets for this will be absolutely fine
There's a few thousand tickets available for the Newcastle Home match and they go on General Sale tomorrow.
suggests the excitement is wearing off , might be our first non sell-out so I think anyone wanting tickets for this will be absolutely fine
Think being on TV on a Monday night is the likely reason, mate. If this was Saturday at 3, it’d be sold out by now. What makes you think the excitement is wearing off?
Edit- there’s currently 813 left, and the match is still 16 days away.
I looked the other night for tickets for Newcastle game but the Holte was completely sold out and only a few dotted around the ground so got tickets for Leicester instead (no pairs or seats close together in the Holte so ended up getting upper Trinity).
I asked AVFCsupport on Twitter and was just told it was TBA.
They also suggested that I sign in and sign up for the Cup Scheme. I signed in and there's no sign of a link to sign up for the Cup Scheme.
The scheme is mentioned in the FAQ but there's no instructions as to how to register
Because of the 2015 Baggies debacle ?
Admittedly that was Away fans sitting above Home fans
I can't get it to work.They don’t go on sale until 5 o’clock this evening.
Under Liverpool tickets there is a large "COMING SOON", but just above that, in much smaller print, is "Season ticket holders click here to purchase your seat". I click that and it just takes me back to the initial ticketing home page.
I notice that we seem to have given Liverpool the Lower North (presumably in addition to the usual away bit). But the site also says that those in the front three rows of the North Upper will have to move, too.
What's this bollocks? For years people sat above the away fans without the slightest problem, why has this suddenly been deemed an issue?
Because of the 2015 Baggies debacle ?Wolves had upper and lower north however the first 3 rows in the upper section were still blocked off. Doesn’t make sense.
Admittedly that was Away fans sitting above Home fans
Thirty three sheets? Unbelievable.That's only the top price tickets. Majority are £20-£30 which I don't think is too bad for a QF.
Got my £20 ticket in the upper holte no problem.Well, my Upper Holte ST was £30, so how is it that you have one for £20?
All parts of the ground should be £20 max especially if lobscouse are getting theirs for £20.
Got my £20 ticket in the upper holte no problem.Well, my Upper Holte ST was £30, so how is it that you have one for £20?
All parts of the ground should be £20 max especially if lobscouse are getting theirs for £20.
Against Liverpool reserves, on TV and a week before Christmas. Should have been £20 all round the ground, simple as that.Got my £20 ticket in the upper holte no problem.Well, my Upper Holte ST was £30, so how is it that you have one for £20?
All parts of the ground should be £20 max especially if lobscouse are getting theirs for £20.
A concession?
They’ve basically gone for Cat C (the cheapest League) pricing, apart from the Lower North away seating which given its our only zone 5 section, they’ve presumably been forced to price match it to the next zone down, 6, hence the £20 adult price.
I’m also not so sure it’s a surprisingly high amount, given it’s a QF etc
The stadium map is for our league games but it shows where the price zones are.
The stadium map is for our league games but it shows where the price zones are.
There are different prices within each block in this game. You can't tell how much a given seat is until it is in your basket. If you remove it from your basket you get kicked out back to the ticketing home page. I couldn't be arsed to keep clicking on every seat in the ground to find a cheap one with a good view.
Before getting as far as individual blocks, you arrive at a stadium seating plan identical to the one PWS posted. You can then hover over any block anywhere in the ground and it will tell you how many seats are available in that section and the price of the seats. I really don't see how it could be simpler or clearer. The club can't be criticised for this set up.
On a side note, there are hardly any seats available currently due to season ticket holders having their seats reserved. When this deadline passes, there will be thousands more seats available and of course far greater choice.
It tells you a range of the price of seats in a given block. So it might say "K6 - 237 seats available £20-£29".
You don't know which are which price until you click on the individual seats.
This will end up being a free for all for 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' fans. I've already been asked by 2 plastic 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' fans if I can get them tickets.I agree. It will go to general sale and there will be plastic Liverpool fans all over the ground.
Pity. £20 across the board and it would have been a sell out easy.
This will end up being a free for all for 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' fans. I've already been asked by 2 plastic 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' fans if I can get them tickets.I agree. It will go to general sale and there will be plastic Liverpool fans all over the ground.
Pity. £20 across the board and it would have been a sell out easy.
If Upper North is given over to away fans why is the official site letting me purchase my own seat there? I have tested it all the way through to payment details!
It won't go to general sale. The lowest criteria is 1 home league game since 2016/17. There won't be Liverpool fans "all over the ground" at all.
Ah ha. Thank you.If Upper North is given over to away fans why is the official site letting me purchase my own seat there? I have tested it all the way through to payment details!
Liverpool only have downstairs. They have just blocked the first three rows of upstairs. I thought the same as you at first.
They've got 3000 in Lower North and 1500 in the lower tier of the league away end. I thought they had all of the North to begin with aswell.Ah ha. Thank you.If Upper North is given over to away fans why is the official site letting me purchase my own seat there? I have tested it all the way through to payment details!
Liverpool only have downstairs. They have just blocked the first three rows of upstairs. I thought the same as you at first.
Regarding the price of the Liverpool tickets, I wonder if Liverpool have subsidised their fans and knocked money off for them like we have done in the past?
Has anyone in the Cup Scheme had their credit card charged yet ?
Has anyone in the Cup Scheme had their credit card charged yet ?
They've got 3000 in Lower North and 1500 in the lower tier of the league away end. I thought they had all of the North to begin with aswell.Ah ha. Thank you.If Upper North is given over to away fans why is the official site letting me purchase my own seat there? I have tested it all the way through to payment details!
Liverpool only have downstairs. They have just blocked the first three rows of upstairs. I thought the same as you at first.
Just for some context, Everton are charging £20 all across the ground for their quarter v Leicester. Good to see they're sensible.
Too right, PWS. I smell Wembley. The shitter the 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' side, the better.
And he is the one with the kit.Too right, PWS. I smell Wembley. The shitter the 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' side, the better.
Exactly. I hope they play the U13s, four of which can't play because of school, two who've forgotten their boots and one more who hasn't turned up because he thought he was getting a lift off someone else.
Too right, PWS. I smell Wembley. The shitter the 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' side, the better.
Has anyone in the Cup Scheme had their credit card charged yet ?
Nope, and there's nothing showing as pending. Spoke with the Ticket Office on Saturday and they assured me it had been processed fine – and @avfcsupport got back to me today to say the same.
It's showing as not yet printed in my Villa ticket history.
On the stadium plan if I hover over my seat near the front of K4 for the Liverpool game the cost shows as £30, but this morning my credit card has only been debited for £20.
On the stadium plan if I hover over my seat near the front of K4 for the Liverpool game the cost shows as £30, but this morning my credit card has only been debited for £20.
Edit: Just realised my ticket's only £20 because I'm an old fogey. Normal adult price is £30
Has anyone in the Cup Scheme had their credit card charged yet ?
Nope, and there's nothing showing as pending. Spoke with the Ticket Office on Saturday and they assured me it had been processed fine – and @avfcsupport got back to me today to say the same.
It's showing as not yet printed in my Villa ticket history.
Similar for me.
I checked my credit card this morning and there's no payment or pending payment.
I spoke to a very helpful person in the TO this morning who said that my ticket was showing as processed OK through the Cup Scheme. She confirmed that the payment looked OK as well.
I was a bit puzzled because, even though I'd signed up for the Cup Scheme, I received an email saying that I needed to sign in to buy my ticket.
When I sign in, there's no ticket available to purchase. I assume this is because it's being processed via the CS.
First World Problems and all that.....
I opted to have tickets emailed to me but have received nothing, 24 hours later. It’s usually pretty quick. Anyone else had this?Check your spam, I've had them end up there before.
Quite. I want to watch Villa. Bollocks to the opposition.
Has anyone in the Cup Scheme had their credit card charged yet ?
Nope, and there's nothing showing as pending. Spoke with the Ticket Office on Saturday and they assured me it had been processed fine – and @avfcsupport got back to me today to say the same.
It's showing as not yet printed in my Villa ticket history.
Similar for me.
I checked my credit card this morning and there's no payment or pending payment.
I spoke to a very helpful person in the TO this morning who said that my ticket was showing as processed OK through the Cup Scheme. She confirmed that the payment looked OK as well.
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Payment popped up this morning on my credit card, so I'd say keep checking.
How do you claim your own seat online? I'm buggered if I can work it out
(Sorry if this has been covered before?) I'm a Season Ticket holder in the Cup Scheme and when I rang the ticket office on Monday, they assured me that the ticket would be loaded on to my card. When I scanned the AVFC web site a bit later, it states that issued tickets would be either posted or made available as an e-ticket rather than loaded on to cards. (At no point was I given the options of post or e-ticket.) Of course, I can't get through to the TO now.
I still have bad memories of the last league cup quarter final against Liverpool just before Christmas years ago - I've only just thawed out after that ticketing apocalypse!
Anyone wiser on the actual situation?
(Sorry, can't turn the bleedin' italics off!!
Doesn't look like they are selling well!!
Has anyone in the Cup Scheme had their credit card charged yet ?
Nope, and there's nothing showing as pending. Spoke with the Ticket Office on Saturday and they assured me it had been processed fine – and @avfcsupport got back to me today to say the same.
It's showing as not yet printed in my Villa ticket history.
Similar for me.
I checked my credit card this morning and there's no payment or pending payment.
I spoke to a very helpful person in the TO this morning who said that my ticket was showing as processed OK through the Cup Scheme. She confirmed that the payment looked OK as well.
I was a bit puzzled because, even though I'd signed up for the Cup Scheme, I received an email saying that I needed to sign in to buy my ticket.
When I sign in, there's no ticket available to purchase. I assume this is because it's being processed via the CS.
First World Problems and all that.....
Payment popped up this morning on my credit card, so I'd say keep checking.
Season Ticket holder, very rarely miss cup games as they are priced fairly. The price for this so close to Christmas with other Home games over the festive period is shocking. We're playing liverpool reserves,it's on Sky and to add insult the Away fans are paying Twenty Quid.
Won't even be tempted closer to the date
Looks like only around 20k tickets sold after season ticket holders have had their window and members have had a couple of days aswell. As predicted, the club have royally messed up with the prices and it looks like it will be a sub 30k crowd. Three home games at the most expensive time of year and they make the prices £33 in some areas for a reserve game, baffling.
Should be 20 quid a ticket to make sure the ground is full. And if you look at the other thread about customer services it's quite a worrying trend.Someone needs to get a grip of things at VP pronto before we lose the momentum that's bult up over the last few months.Looks like only around 20k tickets sold after season ticket holders have had their window and members have had a couple of days aswell. As predicted, the club have royally messed up with the prices and it looks like it will be a sub 30k crowd. Three home games at the most expensive time of year and they make the prices £33 in some areas for a reserve game, baffling.
It's not a reserve game but the prices should be lower.
Would people prefer to pay the £30 if they were almost guaranteed to see us getting our pants pulled down by their first choice eleven?
Still looks like nobody's buying tickets for this one, was expecting a flash sale yesterday, but nothing. I think wr may struggle to get 25k, 500 seats + in most blocks of the Holte End
Would people prefer to pay the £30 if they were almost guaranteed to see us getting our pants pulled down by their first choice eleven?
Good point. I think it would still sell out however.
Would people prefer to pay the £30 if they were almost guaranteed to see us getting our pants pulled down by their first choice eleven?
Good point. I think it would still sell out however.
In fairness though £30 for world class players like Salah and Mane on display is a bit different to £30 for Brewster and whoever else normally plays for their U-23s.
£33 is a pricing error for this one, I'm afraid.
For all the 'we're playing a full side, I'm going to watch us' argument (which is a fair shout), ultimately people know Liverpool don't really care about it, and close to xmas, I understand why there's not much interest in a moribund competition.
It'll be pay on the door at this rate.
nothing new there then.It'll be pay on the door at this rate.
I cant see that happening or they would run the risk of hundreds of Liverpool fans being in the home stands
It'll be pay on the door at this rate.
I cant see that happening or they would run the risk of hundreds of Liverpool fans being in the home stands
None of the Brummie 'Reds' I know have ever asked me to get them a ticket. If they did it would be 'No chance!'.It'll be pay on the door at this rate.
I cant see that happening or they would run the risk of hundreds of Liverpool fans being in the home stands
I was being facetious to be honest, but taking your point, I think there will be pockets of local 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' fans in home areas with Villa fans handing over booking history
Possible XI vs. Villa: Kelleher; Hoever, Koumetio, Van den Berg, Larouci; Dixon-Bonner, Chirivella, Kane, Lewis; Longstaff, Stewart.
It's televised.
Anyone else not received their ticket yet? Few of us in L3, and the cup scheme, haven't got ours.
Wow https://www.thisisanfield.com/2019/12/liverpool-announce-squad-for-qatar-revealing-who-wont-play-vs-aston-villa/These boys are highly rated and will present a tough challenge. So Dean MUST select the strongest possible XI to ensure we stand a chance of progressing.QuotePossible XI vs. Villa: Kelleher; Hoever, Koumetio, Van den Berg, Larouci; Dixon-Bonner, Chirivella, Kane, Lewis; Longstaff, Stewart.
What an opportunity for us to progress!
They’ve definitely dropped a clanger with this pricing.
Anyone else not received their ticket yet? Few of us in L3, and the cup scheme, haven't got ours.
Only got mine this week and I’m cup scheme too.
Wow https://www.thisisanfield.com/2019/12/liverpool-announce-squad-for-qatar-revealing-who-wont-play-vs-aston-villa/A Brummie 'Red' mate of mine reckons that this should be good for Villa but it is 'unfair to other clubs'.QuotePossible XI vs. Villa: Kelleher; Hoever, Koumetio, Van den Berg, Larouci; Dixon-Bonner, Chirivella, Kane, Lewis; Longstaff, Stewart.
What an opportunity for us to progress!
They’ve definitely dropped a clanger with this pricing.
Yup. Really a shame.
From the previous round being an absolutely packed out VP, to a QF that's going to have thousands of empty seats. It was always going to be a bit flat with Liverpool playing the kids, but the club have really done their bit to ensure it'll be the least atmospheric game of the season.
Wow https://www.thisisanfield.com/2019/12/liverpool-announce-squad-for-qatar-revealing-who-wont-play-vs-aston-villa/QuotePossible XI vs. Villa: Kelleher; Hoever, Koumetio, Van den Berg, Larouci; Dixon-Bonner, Chirivella, Kane, Lewis; Longstaff, Stewart.
What an opportunity for us to progress!
Edit: Further plans were revealed afterwards suggesting Liverpool hope to play four players against Villa before flying them out to Qatar – see here for more details.https://www.thisisanfield.com/2019/12/journalist-reveals-young-reds-quartet-will-face-aston-villa-then-fly-to-qatar/
I'm sure the club have looked at the numbers and concluded 'crikey, we've cocked up here'.
Disappointed that they've not addressed it with the fans. A couple of weeks ago they could have amended the prices and refunded those who had bought tickets via their season cards.
They're now stuck with a sub 30k crowd. Pity.
I'm sure the club have looked at the numbers and concluded 'crikey, we've cocked up here'.
Disappointed that they've not addressed it with the fans. A couple of weeks ago they could have amended the prices and refunded those who had bought tickets via their season cards.
They're now stuck with a sub 30k crowd. Pity.
It won't happen, but I'd love it (love it!) if we just played our strongest side and put as many past them as we could.
They're probably still better than Bradford, Leyton Orient, Peterborough, Doncaster or Small Heath, among other minnows we have somehow managed to get knocked out by in the last few years. We should get through but I wouldn't want to take too many liberties. Pick a strongish side and don't give them any encouragement whatsoever please, Villa.
We should be winning this no excuses even if we don't go totally full strength.
This has Banana skin written all over it.
Hmm so I think they have realised that the pricing was wrong and season ticket holders can buy a ticket for £20. Those who have already brought a ticket at a higher price will get a £10 refreshment voucher in the post.Ha, I just had that email as well.
Yep - me too. They obviously thought they would easily sell the seats unclaimed by ST holders and any other seats too. Clearly this uptake has failed to materialise so their petty money-grab by charging us more than the away fans has backfired on them and they're now desperately trying to reclaim the situation. It was also interesting to see them, in the text of the email, not-so-subtley trying to lay the blame at Liverpool's door rather than acknowledging their own petty plan had backfired on them:Hmm so I think they have realised that the pricing was wrong and season ticket holders can buy a ticket for £20. Those who have already brought a ticket at a higher price will get a £10 refreshment voucher in the post.Ha, I just had that email as well.
The decision to modify prices for Season Ticket Holders comes after Liverpool FC have made clear their intentions in the competition.
I wonder if Claret Club members who paid the £30 will get a refund as I've had no such e-mail ?
Problem is I paid £33 as a season ticket holder, for my seat. So still £3 worse off than if I had not claimed my seat too early. Hopefully, they will learn from their mistake but won’t hold my breath!!Exactly. The club have made a huge mistake with the pricing of this match and even with this "gesture" I am still out of pocket. Even the £10 I am getting back still has to be spent at the ground so they are not really giving me anything.
Good gesture but a week or two too late and I can't see it having a big impact on the crowd size. They should have done this when they realised hardly any season ticket holders bought their seat.
I’d expect them to load the £10 onto my card as Villa Cash to spend as I see fit.
Except that they aren't free drinks or food because I have paid up front for them.
If I am getting a partial refund it should be up to me how and where I spend it!
Except it's not. Punters have already shelled out the ticket money and might not want the dodgy pies on offer.
I wasn't expecting to be overcharged. People who didn't want / couldn't be bothered to go now have a better deal than me.
I have paid £33 for a £20 ticket. I have been overcharged and should get my money back.
I am getting a voucher for drinks / food I don't want.
Those drinks are not free!
I wasn't expecting to be overcharged. People who didn't want / couldn't be bothered to go now have a better deal than me.
I have paid £33 for a £20 ticket. I have been overcharged and should get my money back.
I am getting a voucher for drinks / food I don't want.
Those drinks are not free!
I wasn't expecting to be overcharged. People who didn't want / couldn't be bothered to go now have a better deal than me.
I have paid £33 for a £20 ticket. I have been overcharged and should get my money back.
I am getting a voucher for drinks / food I don't want.
Those drinks are not free!
So you weren't expecting to pay the price you did when you ordered your ticket?
The issue is that fans that were put off by the higher price and now being offered a lower price to attend, while those who have already stumped up in full are being fobbed off with a voucher, which is not the cash equivalent of a refund as the chances are that it will not be spent to the exact cash value. The fare on offer by way of catering is average at best and a lot of fans don't even use the facility.
It's not the end of the world by any means, but a refund to bank accounts or, even to the season cards shouldn't have been too much of a stretch for the club.
We're going to lose this against a bunch of kids aren't we?
All my enthusiasm for this game has been drained by our lamentable league form.
Maybe something extraordinary will happen on the night.
I think the atmosphere on Tuesday will be flatter than a glass of week old lemonade.
Aston Villa is delighted to announce an exclusive offer to Season Ticket Holders for our Carabao Cup quarter final tie with Liverpool at Villa Park on Tuesday December 17th.
For a 72-hour period, Season Ticket Holders who have not secured a seat for the game can purchase a ticket for any part of the stadium for just £20 per adult, subject to availability.
As a gesture of goodwill to those Season Ticket Holders who have already bought at the previously arranged prices, they will receive a £10 concourse catering refreshment voucher to be redeemed at any of the remaining matches at Villa Park this season.
The decision to modify prices for Season Ticket Holders comes after Liverpool FC have made clear their intentions in the competition.
Our twin priorities are to fill Villa Park for this game and offer our most loyal supporters – our Season Ticket Holders - the best possible value. We hope Season Ticket Holders who have already bought their match tickets for the game understand that the decision to modify prices is not taken lightly and has been made due to the unique nature of this fixture.
Season Ticket Holders who have not yet bought a seat for the game should contact the club in the normal manner. Those Season Ticket Holders who have already purchased their ticket for the game will receive their refreshment voucher, which can be used to buy any food or drink within the stadium, by post this month.
Prices have been reduced for ST holders and those of us that have already purchased will get a food/drink voucherQuoteAston Villa is delighted to announce an exclusive offer to Season Ticket Holders for our Carabao Cup quarter final tie with Liverpool at Villa Park on Tuesday December 17th.
For a 72-hour period, Season Ticket Holders who have not secured a seat for the game can purchase a ticket for any part of the stadium for just £20 per adult, subject to availability.
As a gesture of goodwill to those Season Ticket Holders who have already bought at the previously arranged prices, they will receive a £10 concourse catering refreshment voucher to be redeemed at any of the remaining matches at Villa Park this season.
The decision to modify prices for Season Ticket Holders comes after Liverpool FC have made clear their intentions in the competition.
Our twin priorities are to fill Villa Park for this game and offer our most loyal supporters – our Season Ticket Holders - the best possible value. We hope Season Ticket Holders who have already bought their match tickets for the game understand that the decision to modify prices is not taken lightly and has been made due to the unique nature of this fixture.
Season Ticket Holders who have not yet bought a seat for the game should contact the club in the normal manner. Those Season Ticket Holders who have already purchased their ticket for the game will receive their refreshment voucher, which can be used to buy any food or drink within the stadium, by post this month.
We didn't too well last time we played Oxford in the semis! I won't believe our name is on the cup till I see Chester whacking Grealish on the head with the trophy!
If we play a similar team that we put out against the Wolves,we should win comfortably against their Under 23 team, if we don't win then the players should hang their heads in shame
There will be and can be NO excuse for not getting through to the semi final.
If we lose then Smith and Co, will be under real pressure.
would be grateful for one or two IDs if anyone can helpHave PM’d you.
would be grateful for one or two IDs if anyone can help
Just leaving York. It better be worth it.foggy down here now
Do not. Fuck. This up. Villa.
Waiting for a train: they keep being cancelled. ..Just leaving York. It better be worth it.foggy down here now
Do not. Fuck. This up. Villa.
Anyone had their beer vouchers yet?Yes.Got paid today. We always get paid on the 20th in December. The rest of the year it's the 27th or thereabouts.
If we win 9-0, I'll bare my arse in the window of Harry Parkes' sports shop.