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Title: Empty seats
Post by: Flin5tone on October 20, 2019, 12:03:29 PM
Every game has been a complete sell out but we still have lots of empty seats around the ground especially in lower trinity C9, which looks bad on TV. This isn't a few ST Holders not turning up as it's all located in the corner of Trinity and Doug Ellis lower. Any ideas?
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: Axl Rose on October 20, 2019, 03:58:52 PM
Who said it looked bad on TV? Molineux Mix?
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: Lastfootstamper on October 20, 2019, 04:06:11 PM
I thought it was more full yesterday. Some Brighton fans were in that usually vacant space betwixt them and the lower North, and there were folks in those seats in the lower Holte over on the Witton Lane side that I'm led to believe you can't see the pitch from.
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: not3bad on October 20, 2019, 04:11:43 PM
Yes, it looked very full to me also. How did it look on Match of the Day?
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: Risso on October 20, 2019, 04:25:24 PM
At the final whistle yesterday, the Lower Doug looked half empty.
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: Lastfootstamper on October 20, 2019, 04:43:05 PM
There's a definite proportional increase in the numbers bailing early. Tbf, yesterday had an air of us still playing at midnight and not scoring.
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: not3bad on October 20, 2019, 04:43:31 PM
Beating traffic beats last gasp goal I guess.
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: Sdwbvf on October 20, 2019, 04:45:18 PM
I thought that too from the upper trinity. Whenever I sat in the lower doug last year my view was blocked for the last 10 minutes of each half by people leaving early. I've never seen the point. I've paid to see a match I want to see it all!
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: Richard E on October 20, 2019, 04:45:36 PM
Empty seats? My lord!
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: Brassneck on October 20, 2019, 04:47:46 PM
The empty seats are in the area around where the press boxes are.

My own guess is that these are tickets that the club use for players families, sponsors etc that are not used.
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: eamonn on October 20, 2019, 04:48:58 PM
Beating traffic beats last gasp goal I guess.

BE has been saying as much for years.
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: j66acd on October 20, 2019, 08:49:07 PM
To be honest I wouldn’t mind the seats on the back row of M4 in the Doug Ellis being empty. It was like listening to four guys playing Championship Manager. I thought the one guy was going to have a heart attack because we weren’t pressing how he thought we should. As for the guy who sat next to me sucking his moustache for the final 30 minutes who I ever don’t won’t him to come again or have a shave.
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: Ads on October 20, 2019, 09:03:04 PM
We could be 1-0 up on the night and aggregate, in the 87th minute of the 2nd leg against Barca and half the Lower Witton would fuck off early.
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 20, 2019, 09:44:23 PM
I like the people that leave early. I always move forward into one of the seats nearer the exit and am able to be out the ground within seconds of the final whistle.
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: Pat McMahon on October 20, 2019, 11:23:38 PM
We could be 1-0 up on the night and aggregate, in the 87th minute of the 2nd leg against Barca and half the Lower Witton would fuck off early.

I always wonder if these people go to the cinema and leave 10 minutes before the end of the film, to this day not realising who Keyser Soze really is.

After a win I love hanging around in the ground and basking in the sheer happiness. That feeling is well worth losing 15-20 minutes getting to the car. I think leaving early is much more understandable for midweek games when getting home at a reasonable time is much harder.
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: Brassneck on October 20, 2019, 11:34:27 PM
We could be 1-0 up on the night and aggregate, in the 87th minute of the 2nd leg against Barca and half the Lower Witton would fuck off early.

I always wonder if these people go to the cinema and leave 10 minutes before the end of the film, to this day not realising who Keyser Soze really is.

After a win I love hanging around in the ground and basking in the sheer happiness. That feeling is well worth losing 15-20 minutes getting to the car. I think leaving early is much more understandable for midweek games when getting home at a reasonable time is much harder.

This is me also Pat - I love to milk those few moments of happiness and in many cases, relief that the whistle has blown for full time.

The mad thing is that there are still queues for trains and on the roads even before the game ends.

I wouldn't have missed yesterdays finale for the world.  I laughed at the people around me who chose to leave.  Each to their own I guess.
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: amfy on October 21, 2019, 01:12:39 PM
We could be 1-0 up on the night and aggregate, in the 87th minute of the 2nd leg against Barca and half the Lower Witton would fuck off early.

I always wonder if these people go to the cinema and leave 10 minutes before the end of the film, to this day not realising who Keyser Soze really is.


I remember some comedian talking about this - never knowing that Bruce Willis was dead all the time in 6th sense, or heading off to the car with the kids before the film ends saying ‘Come on - it’s obvious they’re never going to find Nemo now’

Like you, I love the end when we’ve won. Last minute winners are the best thing about football, & then applauding the players off & just having 5 minutes of being at Villa Park without any sense of stress that we’re about to throw it away.

Even when we’ve lost, I find the bit when the players applaud the fans, & they play the whistling song, & we (mostly) applaud back quite healing after the disappointment.

Only when we were losing and losing and losing, & the atmosphere got really toxic was it horrible to be there at the end, but even that was ‘part of it’ - & tbf - in those pre-relegation days, the angriest has left well before the end & there was quite a therapeutic feeling of togetherness amongst the fans who were left.

Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: not3bad on October 21, 2019, 02:40:56 PM
The whistling song is very soothing.
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: Meanwood Villa on October 21, 2019, 05:21:13 PM
Is anyone on here going to 'fess up to being one of the early leavers??

I left Doncaster Rovers early when the third went in, 05/06 League Cup. I have also left pubs early when watching us, including the Sheff U match last season.
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 21, 2019, 05:29:03 PM
I've left early loads of times. I don't do it when it's close, though.
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: Chris Smith on October 21, 2019, 05:33:28 PM
Is anyone on here going to 'fess up to being one of the early leavers??

I left Doncaster Rovers early when the third went in, 05/06 League Cup. I have also left pubs early when watching us, including the Sheff U match last season.

Left early a number of times during the relegation season, particularly night games when there was no draw sitting in the cold watching a bunch of heart hearted wasters go through the motions. Haven’t left early since then.
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 21, 2019, 05:36:20 PM
The relegation season was a, generally, miserable experience. I used to sit there and think "am I enjoying this more than I'd be enjoying getting to the pub twenty minutes earlier?" and the answer was nearly always no. So I left early loads of times. This probably makes me a shit fan. Well, I matched the shit performances on the pitch, then. I figured if they couldn't be arsed, why should I? If the team are giving it everything then I pretty much always stay till the end.
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: Risso on October 21, 2019, 05:38:08 PM
It only seemed to be the lower Witton on Saturday.  The Holte was still packed, as was everywhere else.
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: amfy on October 21, 2019, 06:42:12 PM
I’m not angry with early leavers, I just think they miss some of the best bits of being a fan, but each to their own I guess.
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: QuintonVilla on October 21, 2019, 07:46:19 PM
I’m not angry with early leavers, I just think they miss some of the best bits of being a fan, but each to their own I guess.
This. They're the ones missing out and kicking themselves when they hear the roar or see it on their phone or hear it in the car. They're the ones still kicking themselves now at missing out on the amazing 'limbs' and scenes at the end of the game. 1-1 against ten men, I have no idea why you would leave early in that situation. Especially for a Saturday afternoon game, what are they going to do and where are they going to go in that extra ten minutes they've gained by leaving? Surely that Sheff Utd game was a lesson for everyone never to leave early.
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: CT on October 21, 2019, 08:50:06 PM
I’m not angry with early leavers, I just think they miss some of the best bits of being a fan, but each to their own I guess.
This. They're the ones missing out and kicking themselves when they hear the roar or see it on their phone or hear it in the car. They're the ones still kicking themselves now at missing out on the amazing 'limbs' and scenes at the end of the game. 1-1 against ten men, I have no idea why you would leave early in that situation. Especially for a Saturday afternoon game, what are they going to do and where are they going to go in that extra ten minutes they've gained by leaving? Surely that Sheff Utd game was a lesson for everyone never to leave early.

We really had to get a move on after the game as we were heading to Oxford to see Tim Minchin and it started at 7.30.

Safe to say, I wouldn't have missed that 94th minute winner and a couple of choruses of Sweet Caroline for anything.

We missed Tim's first song, but that was it!
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: Pete3206 on October 21, 2019, 10:18:07 PM
I have mates who left at 0-3 sheff U last season and got back to the pub at 3-3. We laugh about it.

My opinion, you can leave whenever you want and its nobody else's business if you leave early.

Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 21, 2019, 10:23:36 PM
Agree. And I was just arriving in the city centre when Greene equalised.

Can we all agree though, that Arsenal fans who couldn't be arsed to stay behind and watch their team lifting the FA Cup are still massive bellends?
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: itmustbe_it is! on October 21, 2019, 10:28:53 PM
Agree. And I was just arriving in the city centre when Greene equalised.

Can we all agree though, that Arsenal fans who couldn't be arsed to stay behind and watch their team lifting the FA Cup are still massive bellends?

Hell yeah
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: AV82EC on October 21, 2019, 11:11:04 PM
The Lower Witton Lane emptying on 80 minutes has been going on for virtually the whole time I’ve supported Villa so early 90s. I never leave before the final whistle and admittedly run back to my car and very rarely get stuck in traffic even with the current full houses. The fact I usually get my breath back as we’re passing Stoke on the drive home is entirely coincidental.
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: OzVilla on October 22, 2019, 06:42:22 AM
In the late 80's as a young lad I used to stand under the scoreboard on the Trinity Road side of the Holte. We routinely left and just walked straight into the Trinity lower to watch the last 10 minutes. I was always amazed at how many were leaving regardless of the state of the game.

The only time I got bit by it was when I had to get back home for some reason and left an FA Cup tie against Chelsea mid 80's iirc at 1-1 with a few mins to go when it finished 2-2.
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: Richard on October 22, 2019, 08:29:31 AM
It just becomes a habit with some people in the same way as getting somewhere ages before it opens so you're first in the queue. A very British thing maybe.
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: manic-road on October 22, 2019, 08:46:50 AM
I left Stamford Bridge early when we were losing 6-0, I missed a further two goals and a saved penalty. I couldn't stand the pain any further.
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: Dr Butler on October 22, 2019, 09:11:43 AM
I left Stamford Bridge early when we were losing 6-0, I missed a further two goals and a saved penalty. I couldn't stand the pain any further.

we left the Liverpool home game at 4 nil(finished 6 nil)....around the hour mark I think, certainly the earliest I have ever left a game....and that includes the thrashing at Southampton before the FA Cup Final

UTV
The Doc
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: UK Redsox on October 22, 2019, 09:33:24 AM
I left Stamford Bridge early when we were losing 6-0, I missed a further two goals and a saved penalty. I couldn't stand the pain any further.

I've only left games early a handful of times. Two of those were the embarrassments at Stamford Bridge. I also left at 6-0, arriving back at the Tube just as my Chelsea supporting mate texted me about the eighth.
Another was the FA Cup Final no-show
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: Des Little on October 22, 2019, 10:32:02 AM
Earliest i have left is just after the hour when we got stuffed 4-0 at West Ham midweek in 2005. 
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: Risso on October 22, 2019, 10:36:17 AM
Half time for me in the 4-0 v Blackburn under Sir Brian.
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: fbriai on October 22, 2019, 11:20:01 AM
We could be 1-0 up on the night and aggregate, in the 87th minute of the 2nd leg against Barca and half the Lower Witton would fuck off early.

I always wonder if these people go to the cinema and leave 10 minutes before the end of the film, to this day not realising who Keyser Soze really is.

After a win I love hanging around in the ground and basking in the sheer happiness. That feeling is well worth losing 15-20 minutes getting to the car. I think leaving early is much more understandable for midweek games when getting home at a reasonable time is much harder.

Yeah, I know what you mean, Pat.

Before the Bournemouth game, we met up with some mates round the back of the North Stand, where they were sitting. Had a chat with them and then went to our seats in the Witton Lane. After the game, we walked down to the Villa Store, spent at least 30 minutes in there, and then spent a good 15 minutes round by the player entrance, which was definitely worth it as my lad got to have his photo taken with James Chester. After that we walked all the way back to the cars, which were parked on the Powerleague car park over by Spaghetti Junction, which took us another 30 minutes or so. When we got back to the car, we bumped in to one of the mates from the North Stand, who had gone back to his car at full time and was still sat on the car park waiting to leave.
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: Deano's Mullet on October 22, 2019, 12:16:47 PM
Only time I have left a game early was the 2-0 defeat to Baggies earlier this year. I had an earlier train than usual booked out of New Street and segregation meant at final  whistle Witton was off limits and we were scheduled to walk all the way back to Aston which isn't far but sitting in the North the other three stands would have got there first. Add to that my missus wasn't very well and I don't normally get home until 10 so I panicked, left on about 70 mins and listened to how the rest of the game was going from Witton platform. All I could hear was Albion chants so I knew we were still struggling. First time I have ever left early and hopefully never again.
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: AsTallAsLions on October 22, 2019, 12:21:03 PM
Had to leave Wembley 5 mins early v Fulham in 2018 to catch my flight. It was the only return flight that day that wouldn't cost me £200-300.

In hindsight I'm glad I did. Of course it could have gone the other way and meant I'd have missed extra time etc but given the performance, didn't feel there was much chance of that anyway.

Can't recall ever leaving a league match early.

Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: Deano's Mullet on October 22, 2019, 12:23:16 PM
At the play off final Vs Fulham a lot of the Villa fans including me left at the final whistle so after clapping our defeated but on the day useless lads off we went and avoided seeing Fulham lifting the trophy. On the walk back to Wembley Central it was obvious a lot of Fulham were walking back too so they hadn't bothered to stick around and see them lift the trophy which was the whole culmination of what 49 games had been working towards. A lot of sniping from our lot.
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: in exile on October 22, 2019, 12:31:40 PM
The only time I have left a game early was during the 1970's when I had no say in the matter.
Now I'm nearly a grown up, my wife and I stay to the bitter end and very often leave our seats after the majority of the Trinity Road Stand has emptied out. It's just easier that way with pushing the wheelchair etc
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: St AustellAVFC on October 22, 2019, 12:44:07 PM
My wife and I left the sty early once, however we were 2 down and she was 5 months pregnant.
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: j66acd on October 22, 2019, 01:26:53 PM
I left when we were beating the Blues 2-1 to go and play for my team Erdington Star down by the bus depot and uni at Perry Barr. My dad picked me up down by the Aston Hotel and drove to the pitch. I went into the changing room to get changed come back out and my dad gave me the terrible news that Stern John equalised.
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: Axl Rose on October 22, 2019, 01:39:22 PM
I left when we were beating the Blues 2-1 to go and play for my team Erdington Star down by the bus depot and uni at Perry Barr. My dad picked me up down by the Aston Hotel and drove to the pitch. I went into the changing room to get changed come back out and my dad gave me the terrible news that Stern John equalised.

Ouch. I was in a bar in Greece watching that game at the time. I couldn't bear the last few minutes, so went for a poo.

Whilst on the toilet, received a text from my dad saying 'bastards. Unlucky, mate'.

Dreadful.
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: UK Redsox on October 22, 2019, 01:45:22 PM
I left when we were beating the Blues 2-1 to go and play for my team Erdington Star down by the bus depot and uni at Perry Barr. My dad picked me up down by the Aston Hotel and drove to the pitch. I went into the changing room to get changed come back out and my dad gave me the terrible news that Stern John equalised.

Ouch. I was in a bar in Greece watching that game at the time. I couldn't bear the last few minutes, so went for a poo.

Whilst on the toilet, received a text from my dad saying 'bastards. Unlucky, mate'.

Dreadful.

Does your dad always comment of your bowel movements ?
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: Clampy on October 22, 2019, 01:53:59 PM
I left when we were beating the Blues 2-1 to go and play for my team Erdington Star down by the bus depot and uni at Perry Barr. My dad picked me up down by the Aston Hotel and drove to the pitch. I went into the changing room to get changed come back out and my dad gave me the terrible news that Stern John equalised.

Ouch. I was in a bar in Greece watching that game at the time. I couldn't bear the last few minutes, so went for a poo.

Whilst on the toilet, received a text from my dad saying 'bastards. Unlucky, mate'.

Dreadful.

Does your dad always comment of your bowel movements ?

Marvellous.
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: Axl Rose on October 22, 2019, 02:34:05 PM
I left when we were beating the Blues 2-1 to go and play for my team Erdington Star down by the bus depot and uni at Perry Barr. My dad picked me up down by the Aston Hotel and drove to the pitch. I went into the changing room to get changed come back out and my dad gave me the terrible news that Stern John equalised.

Ouch. I was in a bar in Greece watching that game at the time. I couldn't bear the last few minutes, so went for a poo.

Whilst on the toilet, received a text from my dad saying 'bastards. Unlucky, mate'.

Dreadful.

Does your dad always comment of your bowel movements ?

Marvellous.

Applauds :)
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: Dr Butler on October 22, 2019, 02:52:46 PM
At the play off final Vs Fulham a lot of the Villa fans including me left at the final whistle so after clapping our defeated but on the day useless lads off we went and avoided seeing Fulham lifting the trophy. On the walk back to Wembley Central it was obvious a lot of Fulham were walking back too so they hadn't bothered to stick around and see them lift the trophy which was the whole culmination of what 49 games had been working towards. A lot of sniping from our lot.

same sort of thing vs Arsenal in the FA Cup Final....I got on to the tube after the final whistle and there were loads of Quentins and Tarquins all stood there and when I asked (politely of course) why they were not watching them pick the cup up I was told to fuck off as they had already seen them lift it before (vs Hull I think it was)

very strange when I got to Baker St as there were loads in the Metropolitan Bar already into their beers....so god knows what time they left.

UTV
The Doc
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: UK Redsox on October 22, 2019, 03:50:56 PM
I didn't stay around to see Villa lift the trophy for coming third in the 2nd Division.

I doubt that I'd even hang around to see Jack lift the FA Cup
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: Deano's Mullet on October 22, 2019, 11:14:43 PM
I left when we were beating the Blues 2-1 to go and play for my team Erdington Star down by the bus depot and uni at Perry Barr. My dad picked me up down by the Aston Hotel and drove to the pitch. I went into the changing room to get changed come back out and my dad gave me the terrible news that Stern John equalised.

People like to mention Hitzlspergers goal - the club itself certainly does - but I don't like to think off that game so i don't appreciate the goal like I should. Hourihane Vs Blues a much happier and better memory.
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: Ads on October 23, 2019, 07:43:39 AM
I didn't stay around to see Villa lift the trophy for coming third in the 2nd Division.

I doubt that I'd even hang around to see Jack lift the FA Cup

How come?
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: UK Redsox on October 23, 2019, 08:29:56 AM
I didn't stay around to see Villa lift the trophy for coming third in the 2nd Division.

I doubt that I'd even hang around to see Jack lift the FA Cup

How come?

Game's over. I have no interest in trophy presentations
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: Clampy on October 23, 2019, 08:42:36 AM
I didn't stay around to see Villa lift the trophy for coming third in the 2nd Division.

I doubt that I'd even hang around to see Jack lift the FA Cup

How come?

Game's over. I have no interest in trophy presentations

Each to their own but isn't winning a trophy the whole point?  Would you have left early in Rotterdam?
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: Ads on October 23, 2019, 08:48:25 AM
I didn't stay around to see Villa lift the trophy for coming third in the 2nd Division.

I doubt that I'd even hang around to see Jack lift the FA Cup

How come?

Game's over. I have no interest in trophy presentations

You wouldn't want to see the trophy that probably every Villa fan wants us to win more than any other lifted?

Bit Arsenal that.
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: AsTallAsLions on October 23, 2019, 08:58:08 AM
I didn't stay around to see Villa lift the trophy for coming third in the 2nd Division.

I doubt that I'd even hang around to see Jack lift the FA Cup

How come?

Game's over. I have no interest in trophy presentations

That's bonkers mate
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: robbo1874 on October 23, 2019, 09:05:21 AM
Is anyone on here going to 'fess up to being one of the early leavers??

I left Doncaster Rovers early when the third went in, 05/06 League Cup. I have also left pubs early when watching us, including the Sheff U match last season.
not Villa, but I left Suncorp Stadium when Brisbane Roar were 2-0 down to Sydney FC with a couple of minutes to go in the A-League final a few years back. Brisbane eventually won on penalties. Me and my mate watched the penalties in disbelief, on TV in a backpackers bar near the ground. I can’t remember ever leaving a Villa game early and missing  a late goal. Missed a few early ones though, due to the pub.
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: QuintonVilla on October 23, 2019, 09:14:56 AM
I didn't stay around to see Villa lift the trophy for coming third in the 2nd Division.

I doubt that I'd even hang around to see Jack lift the FA Cup

How come?

Game's over. I have no interest in trophy presentations
Arguably the worst thing I've ever seen posted on here and that's saying something considering some of the shit I post.
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: robbo1874 on October 23, 2019, 09:16:29 AM
The Lower Witton Lane emptying on 80 minutes has been going on for virtually the whole time I’ve supported Villa so early 90s. I never leave before the final whistle and admittedly run back to my car and very rarely get stuck in traffic even with the current full houses. The fact I usually get my breath back as we’re passing Stoke on the drive home is entirely coincidental.
i remember as a kid, our mate’s dad used to take us and he would park up at the industrial estate off the junction by the expressway. The post-match walk pace was fierce and used to make my legs ache. My mate was always better at keeping up! More practice than me.
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: UK Redsox on October 23, 2019, 09:25:22 AM
ATAL / Clampy / Ads

I am not trying to wind people up, I just react to football in a different way.

As mentioned before on this thread, my Villa fandom is probably different to most of you. Not only didn't I grow up as a Villa fan, I had virtually no interest in football. I was all rugby and cricket.
I had a vague interest in Liverpool in the mid-70s but that was only because I knew relatives of 'Supersub'.

I was 27 before I saw a professional football match in person. Luckily that game was at Villa park and 22 years later, I'm still going.

I fully recognise that Villa and football in general doesn't mean as much to me as to the rest of you and that I don't have the emotional attachment.

However, I really enjoy going to Villa games and am grateful for the way that such an outsider has been made welcome both in the real world and on this forum.




Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: robbo1874 on October 23, 2019, 09:43:28 AM
Earliest i have left is just after the hour when we got stuffed 4-0 at West Ham midweek in 2005. 
the Marlon Harewood hatrick game? I was there after Last day at the Oval. Couldn’t have gave two fucks about the result, I was totally leathered and just watched England win the ashes! Had beers with Chico at the Blackfriar and could hardly stand up. What a day that was!
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: Risso on October 23, 2019, 10:17:59 AM
ATAL / Clampy / Ads

I am not trying to wind people up, I just react to football in a different way.

As mentioned before on this thread, my Villa fandom is probably different to most of you. Not only didn't I grow up as a Villa fan, I had virtually no interest in football. I was all rugby and cricket.
I had a vague interest in Liverpool in the mid-70s but that was only because I knew relatives of 'Supersub'.

I was 27 before I saw a professional football match in person. Luckily that game was at Villa park and 22 years later, I'm still going.

I fully recognise that Villa and football in general doesn't mean as much to me as to the rest of you and that I don't have the emotional attachment.

However, I really enjoy going to Villa games and am grateful for the way that such an outsider has been made welcome both in the real world and on this forum.


It's still a little bit odd!  If you're emotionally involved enough to travel to games, why wouldn't you then spend an extra 15 minutes watching the celebrations and joining in with the other fans there?  The half an hour at Wembley after we'd won the play offs is one of my favourite ever football moments.  Unlike you I'm not a big fan of baseball, but when we were in Boston this time last year, I still went to see the World Series victory parade, as it's an occasion that you're not going to see very often.  That was brilliant by the way.
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: Sexual Ealing on October 23, 2019, 11:23:33 PM
ATAL / Clampy / Ads

I am not trying to wind people up, I just react to football in a different way.

As mentioned before on this thread, my Villa fandom is probably different to most of you. Not only didn't I grow up as a Villa fan, I had virtually no interest in football. I was all rugby and cricket.
I had a vague interest in Liverpool in the mid-70s but that was only because I knew relatives of 'Supersub'.

I was 27 before I saw a professional football match in person. Luckily that game was at Villa park and 22 years later, I'm still going.

I fully recognise that Villa and football in general doesn't mean as much to me as to the rest of you and that I don't have the emotional attachment.

However, I really enjoy going to Villa games and am grateful for the way that such an outsider has been made welcome both in the real world and on this forum.


It's still a little bit odd!  If you're emotionally involved enough to travel to games, why wouldn't you then spend an extra 15 minutes watching the celebrations and joining in with the other fans there?  The half an hour at Wembley after we'd won the play offs is one of my favourite ever football moments.  Unlike you I'm not a big fan of baseball, but when we were in Boston this time last year, I still went to see the World Series victory parade, as it's an occasion that you're not going to see very often.  That was brilliant by the way.

*Gazes at the horizon, tears in eyes*
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: Sexual Ealing on October 23, 2019, 11:36:57 PM
The earliest I've left is QPR away last season (maybe the season before). We conceded on around eight minutes. I was surrounded by total fucking Herberts who were pissed/coked up and it was raining. Loftus Road is a 20 minute bus ride from home and I thought 'fuck this'. We won 2-1 in the end but I didn't regret it.
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: Brassneck on October 24, 2019, 12:42:26 AM
The earliest I've left is QPR away last season (maybe the season before). We conceded on around eight minutes. I was surrounded by total fucking Herberts who were pissed/coked up and it was raining. Loftus Road is a 20 minute bus ride from home and I thought 'fuck this'. We won 2-1 in the end but I didn't regret it.

I've never known anyone as unlucky as you - You seem to be "surrounded by total fuckin herberts" every game.
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: Sexual Ealing on October 24, 2019, 01:03:02 AM
The earliest I've left is QPR away last season (maybe the season before). We conceded on around eight minutes. I was surrounded by total fucking Herberts who were pissed/coked up and it was raining. Loftus Road is a 20 minute bus ride from home and I thought 'fuck this'. We won 2-1 in the end but I didn't regret it.

I've never known anyone as unlucky as you - You seem to be "surrounded by total fuckin herberts" every game.

I'm from the shires.
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: purpletrousers on October 24, 2019, 01:21:02 AM
The earliest I've left is QPR away last season (maybe the season before). We conceded on around eight minutes. I was surrounded by total fucking Herberts who were pissed/coked up and it was raining. Loftus Road is a 20 minute bus ride from home and I thought 'fuck this'. We won 2-1 in the end but I didn't regret it.

I've never known anyone as unlucky as you - You seem to be "surrounded by total fuckin herberts" every game.

If you live further away and get to a higher ratio of away to home matches than some, you can get proportionally more of the good and bad of the away experience.
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: AsTallAsLions on October 24, 2019, 12:25:54 PM
ATAL / Clampy / Ads

I am not trying to wind people up, I just react to football in a different way.

As mentioned before on this thread, my Villa fandom is probably different to most of you. Not only didn't I grow up as a Villa fan, I had virtually no interest in football. I was all rugby and cricket.
I had a vague interest in Liverpool in the mid-70s but that was only because I knew relatives of 'Supersub'.

I was 27 before I saw a professional football match in person. Luckily that game was at Villa park and 22 years later, I'm still going.

I fully recognise that Villa and football in general doesn't mean as much to me as to the rest of you and that I don't have the emotional attachment.

However, I really enjoy going to Villa games and am grateful for the way that such an outsider has been made welcome both in the real world and on this forum.


It's still a little bit odd!  If you're emotionally involved enough to travel to games, why wouldn't you then spend an extra 15 minutes watching the celebrations and joining in with the other fans there?  The half an hour at Wembley after we'd won the play offs is one of my favourite ever football moments.  Unlike you I'm not a big fan of baseball, but when we were in Boston this time last year, I still went to see the World Series victory parade, as it's an occasion that you're not going to see very often.  That was brilliant by the way.

100% agree. To address UK Redsox's point for a minute, I think it's fair enough to say that we have all had different paths towards Villa and we have individual relationships with the club that are unique to each of us, but whatever your level (or mode) of support for a club, the ultimate desire is always the same: to see the team win.

The process of winning a game is great, but as any Villa fan knows, often fraught with uncertainty - and although the experience of being at the game is unbeatable, I've spent many a game biting my nails or otherwise on edge for the entirety of the second half. Coming away from a hard-fought 1-0 or 2-1 without celebrating it and experiencing that sheer relief and release after, being able to sing with the rest of the remaining fans etc, is honestly the best feeling.

You seem a good egg and of course everyone's free to support the club whatever way they like so long as it doesn't hurt anyone (but themselves!), but if you're telling me you wouldn't stick around to watch Jack lift the FA Cup I'd have to start questioning your sanity mate. Because what an unparalleled feeling that would be. Better than just about anything else I can imagine, to be perfectly honest with you.
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: Risso on October 24, 2019, 01:13:23 PM
I spent almost the entire five and a half hours of extra time at the Play Off final clinging on to Sexual Ealing's cousin for emotional support.
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: adrenachrome on October 24, 2019, 04:07:13 PM
I spent almost the entire five and a half hours of extra time at the Play Off final clinging on to Sexual Ealing's cousin for emotional support.

Is "cousin" another euphemism which has entered the language? Hard to keep up these days.
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: Des Little on October 24, 2019, 04:45:15 PM
I kind of get Redsox’s point in the same way that I kind of get thhat there are blokes out there who like having their ballbags nailed to a table. Each their own and all that.
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: Sexual Ealing on October 24, 2019, 05:23:28 PM
I kind of get Redsox’s point in the same way that I kind of get thhat there are blokes out there who like having their ballbags nailed to a table. Each their own and all that.

Ballbag is such an ugly word. Try using 'cousin'.
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: CT on October 24, 2019, 05:41:47 PM
If we ever get to a situation where Jack is lifting the FA Cup for Aston Villa, they will have to peel me out of Wembley stadium.
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: Mister E on October 24, 2019, 05:48:27 PM
If we ever get to a situation where Jack is lifting the FA Cup for Aston Villa, they will have to peel me out of Wembley stadium.
By which time they'll probably have to wheel me out of Wembley stadium ....
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: Clampy on October 25, 2019, 10:19:50 AM
I'll never forget that last 15 minutes or so at Wembley, just after Derby pulled their goal back. I was an absolute wreck, I could hardly watch whenever Derby went forward. The relief at the final whistle was immense. There's no way on earth I could have clapped a bit then just walked out after that.
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: not3bad on October 25, 2019, 10:36:18 AM
I remember during a Mcleish game I got in about half an hour late, bought a pie, ate the pie watching the game on the screens without bothering to take my seat, thought "f*ck this, it's not going to get any better", and left. (we were 2-0 down playing Liverpool. It finished 2-0).
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: Ads on October 25, 2019, 12:00:57 PM
I remember going to White Hart Lane under McLeish. I stood there for 90 minutes and didn't see us play any football.
Title: Re: Empty seats
Post by: dcdavecollett on October 26, 2019, 09:02:12 PM
The chap next to me was bostin' for a wazz as the Brighton game entered first-half stoppage time. he held on for as long as he could then went for it, thereby missing Jack's equaliser.

He got his own back on me at the end, insisting that Targett's winner was being checked over for VAR!!

Me and the folks around me weren't that amused until we realised he was kidding.