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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: wittonwarrior on June 24, 2019, 06:30:32 PM
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Initial 1600 sold in 30 mins - a sign of things to come
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It will be interesting to see what happens regarding an extra allocation. At the moment The Town are selling the East and South stand to 'home' supporters. This implies that if an extra allocation were to be granted it would be in the North stand. However, this is the main side stand (where the players come out) which incorporates the sponsors and 'Sovereign Member' facilities making segregation difficult.
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It will be interesting to see what happens regarding an extra allocation. At the moment The Town are selling the East and South stand to 'home' supporters. This implies that if an extra allocation were to be granted it would be in the North stand. However, this is the main side stand (where the players come out) which incorporates the sponsors and 'Sovereign Member' facilities making segregation difficult.
I was born in Shrewsbury and I can confirm that it's a pretty tasty town when it all comes on top. Not a game for scarfers IMHO. Top boys only. Do not, DO NOT pronounce scone to rhyme with gone.
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It will be interesting to see what happens regarding an extra allocation. At the moment The Town are selling the East and South stand to 'home' supporters. This implies that if an extra allocation were to be granted it would be in the North stand. However, this is the main side stand (where the players come out) which incorporates the sponsors and 'Sovereign Member' facilities making segregation difficult.
I was born in Shrewsbury and I can confirm that it's a pretty tasty town when it all comes on top. Not a game for scarfers IMHO. Top boys only. Do not, DO NOT pronounce scone to rhyme with gone.
Copthorne-born also!
As long as visitors refer to the town as Shoosbry they should be fine.
I'm hoping that I'll get in at the home end through a Town-supporting friend, though having grown up near Ludlow I was always more of a Hereford man when it came to local second teams... I was at Edgar St in 1996 when one Dean Smith skyed a penalty against Tottingham Otspur... Graham Turner in the hotseat for the Bulls iirc. Funny old game.
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It will be interesting to see what happens regarding an extra allocation. At the moment The Town are selling the East and South stand to 'home' supporters. This implies that if an extra allocation were to be granted it would be in the North stand. However, this is the main side stand (where the players come out) which incorporates the sponsors and 'Sovereign Member' facilities making segregation difficult.
I was born in Shrewsbury and I can confirm that it's a pretty tasty town when it all comes on top. Not a game for scarfers IMHO. Top boys only. Do not, DO NOT pronounce scone to rhyme with gone.
Copthorne-born also!
As long as visitors refer to the town as Shoosbry they should be fine.
I'm hoping that I'll get in at the home end through a Town-supporting friend, though having grown up near Ludlow I was always more of a Hereford man when it came to local second teams... I was at Edgar St in 1996 when one Dean Smith skyed a penalty against Tottingham Otspur... Graham Turner in the hotseat for the Bulls iirc. Funny old game.
I think Risso was too! We could form a bloc on the county council if we weren't too cool.
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As long as visitors refer to the town as Shoosbry they should be fine.
I thought the pronunciation depended on which side of the river you were from ?
Anyway with Cardiff being relegated it's good we still have a game in Wales.
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It will be interesting to see what happens regarding an extra allocation. At the moment The Town are selling the East and South stand to 'home' supporters. This implies that if an extra allocation were to be granted it would be in the North stand. However, this is the main side stand (where the players come out) which incorporates the sponsors and 'Sovereign Member' facilities making segregation difficult.
I was born in Shrewsbury and I can confirm that it's a pretty tasty town when it all comes on top. Not a game for scarfers IMHO. Top boys only. Do not, DO NOT pronounce scone to rhyme with gone.
Copthorne-born also!
As long as visitors refer to the town as Shoosbry they should be fine.
I'm hoping that I'll get in at the home end through a Town-supporting friend, though having grown up near Ludlow I was always more of a Hereford man when it came to local second teams... I was at Edgar St in 1996 when one Dean Smith skyed a penalty against Tottingham Otspur... Graham Turner in the hotseat for the Bulls iirc. Funny old game.
I think Risso was too! We could form a bloc on the county council if we weren't too cool.
NEV-er!
Risso! Where bist, monner?
I like the thought of an H&V SCC bloc, despite being incredibly cool (obvs). The amount of abuse-of-privilege we'd have to undertake just to catch up with the rest of the trough-snufflers would be bloody fantastic!
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It will be interesting to see what happens regarding an extra allocation. At the moment The Town are selling the East and South stand to 'home' supporters. This implies that if an extra allocation were to be granted it would be in the North stand. However, this is the main side stand (where the players come out) which incorporates the sponsors and 'Sovereign Member' facilities making segregation difficult.
I was born in Shrewsbury and I can confirm that it's a pretty tasty town when it all comes on top. Not a game for scarfers IMHO. Top boys only. Do not, DO NOT pronounce scone to rhyme with gone.
Copthorne-born also!
As long as visitors refer to the town as Shoosbry they should be fine.
I'm hoping that I'll get in at the home end through a Town-supporting friend, though having grown up near Ludlow I was always more of a Hereford man when it came to local second teams... I was at Edgar St in 1996 when one Dean Smith skyed a penalty against Tottingham Otspur... Graham Turner in the hotseat for the Bulls iirc. Funny old game.
I think Risso was too! We could form a bloc on the county council if we weren't too cool.
NEV-er!
Risso! Where bist, monner?
I like the thought of an H&V SCC bloc, despite being incredibly cool (obvs). The amount of abuse-of-privilege we'd have to undertake just to catch up with the rest of the trough-snufflers would be bloody fantastic!
The People's Pikelet Alliance.
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As long as visitors refer to the town as Shoosbry they should be fine.
I thought the pronunciation depended on which side of the river you were from ?
Anyway with Cardiff being relegated it's good we still have a game in Wales.
Nah Andy. If you're from off - ie *not* Shoosbry - the Shrews/Shrows debate can be swung (or swang) back and forth ad infinitum. Otherwise, and speaking very generally, it's Shrowsbury School and Shoosbry town.
(or just plain Salop, especially if you have a French penfriend forced upon you by school)
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The People's Pikelet Alliance.
You may just have inadvertently started a new movement, SE. And not just in my pants.
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The People's Pikelet Alliance.
You may just have inadvertently started a new movement, SE. And not just in my pants.
I am very liberal.
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SE: that's interesting, I assume at RSH or whatever it was called then? The last time there was major trouble, mainly along Smithfield Road in the town, was when Walsall came 7/8 years ago (IIRC) in October. Don't think the EBF (English Border Front) are so much to the fore these days!!! Yes Risso (Martin) was born here, remember him telling me when he had a spare Ipswich away ticket from me in April last year.
Rodders: RSH I assume? Yes that's exactly how the locals pronounce it (no initial 'r'!!) Yes, I've always felt that Ludlow gravitated towards Hereford rather that Shrewsbury, certainly in a business sense it did/does, so not surprised. Roland Wycherley (the STFC chairman who I know well) once introduced me to Graham Turner in his office (during his 2nd spell as manager); GT went very quiet when Roland told him I was 'Villa'!
ALITA: Yes, it does, generally 'Shrew' north and 'Shrow' south (of the river). Ha ha, all the Brum mates of my elder son used to wind him up that he lived in Wales!
I've lived in Radbrook Green (1.1 miles from the ground) since a career move with RBS in 1990, and it's proven to be the best move I've ever made.
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Yes, I think a few of us from here could make a better fist of running Shropshire Council (the County was dropped a good few years ago) than the present leadership team (I can say that now I've retired!!). They even spent £51m on three shopping centres in the town last year, and didn't bother getting a professional valuation on the smallest! Surprise surprise, the latest SC accounts evidence, already, a capital write-down of £11m!
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I didn't know we had such a big Welsh following.
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SE: that's interesting, I assume at RSH or whatever it was called then? The last time there was major trouble, mainly along Smithfield Road in the town, was when Walsall came 7/8 years ago (IIRC) in October. Don't think the EBF (English Border Front) are so much to the fore these days!!! Yes Risso (Martin) was born here, remember him telling me when he had a spare Ipswich away ticket from me in April last year.
Rodders: RSH I assume? Yes that's exactly how the locals pronounce it (no initial 'r'!!) Yes, I've always felt that Ludlow gravitated towards Hereford rather that Shrewsbury, certainly in a business sense it did/does, so not surprised. Roland Wycherley (the STFC chairman who I know well) once introduced me to Graham Turner in his office (during his 2nd spell as manager); GT went very quiet when Roland told him I was 'Villa'!
ALITA: Yes, it does, generally 'Shrew' north and 'Shrow' south (of the river). Ha ha, all the Brum mates of my elder son used to wind him up that he lived in Wales!
I've lived in Radbrook Green (1.1 miles from the ground) since a career move with RBS in 1990, and it's proven to be the best move I've ever made.
I was joking re the hoolies BC54!
I don't really know Shrewsbury. I ought to have been born in the Cottage Hospital in Wellington but the doctors thought that I might have spina bifida so they sent my mum to the Copthorne. I didn't have spina bifida. Clearly the doctors just thought I was too classy to be born in Telford.
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I didn't know we had such a big Welsh following.
They come for the sheep, they stay for the seaweed.
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I didn't know we had such a big Welsh following.
They come for the sheep, they stay for the seaweed.
Careful what ewe say!
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SE: that's interesting, I assume at RSH or whatever it was called then? The last time there was major trouble, mainly along Smithfield Road in the town, was when Walsall came 7/8 years ago (IIRC) in October. Don't think the EBF (English Border Front) are so much to the fore these days!!! Yes Risso (Martin) was born here, remember him telling me when he had a spare Ipswich away ticket from me in April last year.
Rodders: RSH I assume? Yes that's exactly how the locals pronounce it (no initial 'r'!!) Yes, I've always felt that Ludlow gravitated towards Hereford rather that Shrewsbury, certainly in a business sense it did/does, so not surprised. Roland Wycherley (the STFC chairman who I know well) once introduced me to Graham Turner in his office (during his 2nd spell as manager); GT went very quiet when Roland told him I was 'Villa'!
ALITA: Yes, it does, generally 'Shrew' north and 'Shrow' south (of the river). Ha ha, all the Brum mates of my elder son used to wind him up that he lived in Wales!
I've lived in Radbrook Green (1.1 miles from the ground) since a career move with RBS in 1990, and it's proven to be the best move I've ever made.
I was joking re the hoolies BC54!
I don't really know Shrewsbury. I ought to have been born in the Cottage Hospital in Wellington but the doctors thought that I might have spina bifida so they sent my mum to the Copthorne. I didn't have spina bifida. Clearly the doctors just thought I was too classy to be born in Telford.
Thought you probably were; it's a pretty conservative town as I'm sure you are aware. It's front page news here if a cat gets rescued from a tree.
Yes there's alot of competition between the two towns and you've sussed it correctly; my younger son was also born at Copthorne (RSH). However, as a Brummie, I always found it easier to do business in Telford, people more 'down to earth' etc, and I sat on a business board there for a long time so would never knock the town.
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SE: that's interesting, I assume at RSH or whatever it was called then? The last time there was major trouble, mainly along Smithfield Road in the town, was when Walsall came 7/8 years ago (IIRC) in October. Don't think the EBF (English Border Front) are so much to the fore these days!!! Yes Risso (Martin) was born here, remember him telling me when he had a spare Ipswich away ticket from me in April last year.
Rodders: RSH I assume? Yes that's exactly how the locals pronounce it (no initial 'r'!!) Yes, I've always felt that Ludlow gravitated towards Hereford rather that Shrewsbury, certainly in a business sense it did/does, so not surprised. Roland Wycherley (the STFC chairman who I know well) once introduced me to Graham Turner in his office (during his 2nd spell as manager); GT went very quiet when Roland told him I was 'Villa'!
ALITA: Yes, it does, generally 'Shrew' north and 'Shrow' south (of the river). Ha ha, all the Brum mates of my elder son used to wind him up that he lived in Wales!
I've lived in Radbrook Green (1.1 miles from the ground) since a career move with RBS in 1990, and it's proven to be the best move I've ever made.
I was joking re the hoolies BC54!
I don't really know Shrewsbury. I ought to have been born in the Cottage Hospital in Wellington but the doctors thought that I might have spina bifida so they sent my mum to the Copthorne. I didn't have spina bifida. Clearly the doctors just thought I was too classy to be born in Telford.
Thought you probably were; it's a pretty conservative town as I'm sure you are aware. It's front page news here if a cat gets rescued from a tree.
Yes there's alot of competition between the two towns and you've sussed it correctly; my younger son was also born at Copthorne (RSH). However, as a Brummie, I always found it easier to do business in Telford, people more 'down to earth' etc, and I sat on a business board there for a long time so would never knock the town.
In that case, let me. It's fucking horrible!
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Harsh! Visually perhaps, but not the people, although there are 2/3 dodgy areas, as there are in Shrewsbury too!
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Harsh! Visually perhaps, but not the people, although there are 2/3 dodgy areas, as there are in Shrewsbury too!
Perhaps a little harsh. And there are definitely good people there. But it's the opposite of how people should live. Badly designed and then abandoned.
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I didn't know we had such a big Welsh following.
Yes have got to know loads since I moved to South Wales just over 30 years ago, unfortunately it also reminds me of the day I was embarrassed to be a villan...
Away to SWANSEA city the day GARY speed had died, sombre atmosphere and pretty shit game. Myself and daughter in back row of out allocation. Some welsh villains from Newport hung their flag which was a welsh dragon in claret and blue from their supporters club behind us about 30 mins before kick off.
3. Ins pre kick off 3 piss heads walked up steps to their seats in row in front of us and noticed flag and promptly ripped it to shreds saying we don’t want any foreign welsh supporters in our club. The flags owners challenged them and then a brawl amongst about 15 of our fans started.
Pathetic and spoilt atmosphere, my daughter , welsh born and bred scared stiff rest of game and no singing as didn’t want her and partially My accents to be noticed
Bloody disgrace
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I didn't know we had such a big Welsh following.
The(Welsh)y come in the sheep, they stay for the seaweed.
Fixed.
BC54, there was no such thing as RSH when I was borned, just Copthorne Hozpital, in Nissen Huts across the road from the current site.
My elder son was born at RSH, my younger at PRH in Telford, so a foot in each camp as it were. I shall be advising the younger to just say, "Shropshire" when asked.
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I didn't know we had such a big Welsh following.
The(Welsh)y come in the sheep, they stay for the seaweed.
Fixed.
BC54, there was no such thing as RSH when I was borned, just Copthorne Hozpital, in Nissen Huts across the road from the current site.
My elder son was born at RSH, my younger at PRH in Telford, so a foot in each camp as it were. I shall be advising the younger to just say, "Shropshire" when asked.
Shropshire is what I say when asked. Salt of the earth man of the people that I am.
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Not born but raised in Shrewsbury. Anyone else go to Meole?
It's most definitely pronounced Shroosbury by those who live in the town, unless they're incomers like my parents.
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My new dentist is a Shrewsbury fan. I went last week and he heard my accent and asked if i was from thew West Midlands, then told me that he was from Telford. My first question to him was to ask if he supported Wolves. I don't want any of those freaks sticking their 6 fingers in my mouth.
I pronounce it Shrows-bury. Is that wrong?
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If you want to pass as really proper local then the first R is silent and the whole thing has only two syllables, ie Shoosbry. In similar vein Ludlow is pronounced Luggla by the true natives akin to Birmingham, Brummagem.
But we're in great danger of entering crumplet territory here, so whatever you want to say is correct for you at the time.
The one caveat as far as the County Town of Shropshire goes is that there is a strongly classist element to pronunciation, where a carelessly mispronounced Shroo or Shrow can mean social death. Salop is safest if you're not sure!
Can we talk about football please?! I was thoroughly embarrassed by our last visit two pre-seasons ago - we were neither there nor even nearly thereabouts - and had to endure a great deal of pisstaking after the game.
I'm hoping that we'll see Wez leading the line and at least three more signings at the New Meadow - the season proper begins only a couple of weeks later.
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my Sister emigrated up to Elesmere a couple of Years ago they absolutely love it up there in Shropshire
was thinking I’d go for a visit but if we’ve sold out I don’t know if I can be bothered now
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I didn't know we had such a big Welsh following.
Yes have got to know loads since I moved to South Wales just over 30 years ago, unfortunately it also reminds me of the day I was embarrassed to be a villan...
Away to SWANSEA city the day GARY speed had died, sombre atmosphere and pretty shit game. Myself and daughter in back row of out allocation. Some welsh villains from Newport hung their flag which was a welsh dragon in claret and blue from their supporters club behind us about 30 mins before kick off.
3. Ins pre kick off 3 piss heads walked up steps to their seats in row in front of us and noticed flag and promptly ripped it to shreds saying we don’t want any foreign welsh supporters in our club. The flags owners challenged them and then a brawl amongst about 15 of our fans started.
Pathetic and spoilt atmosphere, my daughter , welsh born and bred scared stiff rest of game and no singing as didn’t want her and partially My accents to be noticed
Bloody disgrace
There was a really serious brawl down in the lower section too. Sometimes you just shake your head and think "what the fuck?"
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Weather warm but dull today for all heading to the shire.
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If you're planning on getting a taxi from the centre to the ground, book as soon as possible. There are hardly any taxis in the city, we missed basically the whole first half because we left it late to book one the other year.
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If you're planning on getting a taxi from the centre to the ground, book as soon as possible. There are hardly any taxis in the city, we missed basically the whole first half because we left it late to book one the other year.
It is not a city, that is why they are called Shrewsbury Town.👍
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Is this being shown on YouTube?
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Stickied as the match thread.
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Is this being shown on YouTube?
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Is this being shown on YouTube?
Ah, perfect. Thank you, mate!
I've just read that the Bristol City goalie who had a blinder against us in April, is now on loan at Shrewsbury.
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0-4 away win.
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Surprised we went to the states just to play one game, thought our next game would be Walsall on Wednesday.
Is this going to be strong 11 or more youth team/squad players mix?
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Surprised we went to the states just to play one game, thought our next game would be Walsall on Wednesday.
Is this going to be strong 11 or more youth team/squad players mix?
Maybe wrong but read that DS is rotating/making use of the whole squad in the same way as the friendly in the states - 2 teams 45 mins each?
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Surprised we went to the states just to play one game, thought our next game would be Walsall on Wednesday.
Is this going to be strong 11 or more youth team/squad players mix?
Maybe wrong but read that DS is rotating/making use of the whole squad in the same way as the friendly in the states - 2 teams 45 mins each?
Makes sense considering we had long flight yesterday (or Friday).
We will go full strength at Leipzig you'd imagine, maybe the friendly before if there's one midweek after Charlton game, or that one itself.
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Steer, Guilbert, Konsa, Mings, Taylor, Bjarnason, Grealish (C), McGinn, Jota, Green, Davis.
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Decent. Will this be on YouTube then? I assume it will but the video above isn't working.
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Decent. Will this be on YouTube then? I assume it will but the video above isn't working.
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Thank you both very much 8)💜
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Who on earth re-hired Jack Woodward.
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I think I'd rather still be in the championship than have that twunt Woodward back as the club commentator.
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Feels like I've gone back in time, Woodward back on comms!
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Horrible cheesy Jack Woodward commentary. There has to be someone better
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Nervy first few minutes but settling down now.
Not keen on these Lambert-esque goal kicks.
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Lots of good possession so far, so good to see Mings back effortlessly bring ball out of our half.
Gulibert endangers safety of away fans in Row M with shot just now.
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Bloody hell Shrewsbury look good. Good shot just over
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Bringing Jack back is definitely the media equivalent of potatohead thinking Carroll might be the answer for the barcodes.
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Jacked booked. More importantly daft to make a challenge like that in pre season
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Grealish booked for agressive tackle.
Chants very audible, that will be amusing at some point today when My Old man starts up.
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Jacked booked. More importantly daft to make a challenge like that in pre season
Normally I'd agree with you but it was a lovely challenge in which he won the ball perfectly cleanly. Shrewsbury #10 made a meal of it.
Just because it's a friendly doesn't mean it can't be competitive.
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Presumably yellow cards don't rollover into the season?
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Jacked booked. More importantly daft to make a challenge like that in pre season
Normally I'd agree with you but it was a lovely challenge in which he won the ball perfectly cleanly. Shrewsbury #10 made a meal of it.
I think you could tell from Jack's reaction that he knew it was a yellow.
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Davis nearly scores off corner. Grealish then has decent curling shot saved.
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Jacked booked. More importantly daft to make a challenge like that in pre season
Normally I'd agree with you but it was a lovely challenge in which he won the ball perfectly cleanly. Shrewsbury #10 made a meal of it.
I think you could tell from Jack's reaction that he knew it was a yellow.
Can you explain why? He won the ball first time, and it didn't look like his foot was over the ball to me either. He caught the player after.
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Jacked booked. More importantly daft to make a challenge like that in pre season
Normally I'd agree with you but it was a lovely challenge in which he won the ball perfectly cleanly. Shrewsbury #10 made a meal of it.
Just because it's a friendly doesn't mean it can't be competitive.
I don’t want him getting injured in a meaningless game. I appreciate he won the ball and his competitiveness but I didn’t think he needed to go that hard in this game. Versus Spurs no problem.
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We’re settling down now. It’s taken a while last we saw many times last season. We will need to settle down a lot faster in the PL.
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Guilbert looks good. Delighted by that. Hopefully he can do the job against PL attackers.
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Jacked booked. More importantly daft to make a challenge like that in pre season
Normally I'd agree with you but it was a lovely challenge in which he won the ball perfectly cleanly. Shrewsbury #10 made a meal of it.
Just because it's a friendly doesn't mean it can't be competitive.
I don’t want him getting injured in a meaningless game. I appreciate he won the ball and his competitiveness but I didn’t think he needed to go that hard in this game. Versus Spurs no problem.
Fair enough mate
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OOOOHHH Jota close
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Great passage of play there. Unlucky Jota
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Starting to look a class above now which you'd expect as Sloppies nearly got relegated from league 1.
Gulibert making some good forward runs, Jota playing nicely off the right aswell.
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I wonder if Engels is in the squad today?
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Jacked booked. More importantly daft to make a challenge like that in pre season
Normally I'd agree with you but it was a lovely challenge in which he won the ball perfectly cleanly. Shrewsbury #10 made a meal of it.
I think you could tell from Jack's reaction that he knew it was a yellow.
Can you explain why? He won the ball first time, and it didn't look like his foot was over the ball to me either. He caught the player after.
Winning the ball doesn't mean a foul can't be given.
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Guilbert looks good going forward not sure about the defensive side.
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Ooooooh Keinan. Great turn and shot
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Nice work from Davis.
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Good move down the right and good save from Davis.
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Jota with another dribble into box, Davis spins and shoots, Max O'Leary with those pesky saves again, tips it over the bar,
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Keinan actually looking really good today. That’s why I think he needs a season long loan to build his confidence
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Green has to shoot there.
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The goal is coming.
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Looking very good now. Need the finish.
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Looked like SJM was being held then.
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Jota is everywhere
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Woodward just doesn't understand that less is more.
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Thor hammers one just over
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Woodward just doesn't understand that less is more.
That’s really well put. Like shut the fuck up sometimes
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Would like to see Green commit more to taking players on and having a shot rather than slowing it down or laying it off.
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Reply #139 by kippaxvilla2 on 21 Jul, 2019 14:30
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This is the keeper who made some world class saves against us last season for Bristol city.
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Would like to see Green commit more to taking players on and having a shot rather than slowing it down or laying it off.
He's such a disappointing player. Young wingers are supposed to be hit and miss, capable of exciting moments, but also shanking one into row z. He's just dull to watch, doesn't seem very good at anything to be honest.
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Would like to see Green commit more to taking players on and having a shot rather than slowing it down or laying it off.
Yep that's always the problem with him.
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‘You’d back him to sparkle wouldn’t you?’ Who are you talking to?
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Fred's crosses are right on the mark. Jots looking really busy too.
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Fred's crosses are right on the mark. Jots looking really busy too.
I've seen more attacking intent from Guilbert in one half than I have in Green's career.
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Breaking: Neil Taylor isn’t very good.
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Taylor in "still shite" shocker.
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Ha, snap!
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Is Targett injured? Surprised he isn't starting. Taylor gets in good position but overhits through ball.
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Fucking shut up Jack
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Is Targett injured? Surprised he isn't starting. Taylor gets in good position but overhits through ball.
It’s not about starting. Dean is mixing and matching. Targett will be on in the second half
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Shrewsbury should have scored there. Not surprisingly they are attacking more down the right because we have an invisible man at LB
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We've been ok but some of the passing has been a bit sloppy at times.
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The You Tube comments section on the live stream is infested with divs.
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Slack pass from Tyrone there could have been costly.
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The You Tube comments section on the live stream is infested with divs.
I had to hide it.
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The You Tube comments section on the live stream is infested with divs.
I turned it off. It’s murder
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Jota & Guilbert both look bright. Hopefully will prove to be good signings.
I don’t think Woodward is that bad. It’s a YouTube stream not a sky or bt commentary so in that context I think he’s fine.
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We definitely need another striker.
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Thank fuck we are back up because I’d be doing my head if he was doing AVTV for live games all season
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HT 0-0 ok first half
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We definitely need another striker.
And another commentator.
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The You Tube comments section on the live stream is infested with divs.
I turned it off. It’s murder
I kept it on to see if anybody said anything interesting but I'd be more likely to see Neil Taylor score a hat trick.
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We really have pulled the noses pants down signing Jota and giving them GG.
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Jota and Guilbert impressive. Green and Davis don't look like a reliable source of goals.
Every time I see Mings knocking the ball around at the back or striding forward I think how crucial it was that he signed.
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One or two silly errors but on the whole a decent enough display. Gilbert decent going forward, wish we could say the same for Taylor and Green. Davis does all his good work outside the penalty area. Grealish all over the park again. I like the look of Konsa, quite calm. Bjarnasson is cack. Still some work to do but one would expect that with so many new players and still more to come.
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I'd like to see Jack move the ball on a lot quicker. Everything comes to a stop when he receives the ball outside the box. Defenders must love him.
Agree with Hilts, Jota and Guilbert most impressive. BB had a decent half too.
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I'd like to see Jack move the ball on a lot quicker. Everything comes to a stop when he receives the ball outside the box. Defenders must love him.
Agree with Hilts, Jota and Guilbert most impressive. BB had a decent half too.
Agreed. It works in the Championship but PL defenders and back tracking midfielders will take advantage. It brings others into play on the counter but when we have the ball everyone gets back and packs the 18 yard box closing down all the space. That’s why I’m fascinated how he adapts to the higher level.
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Interesting that Steer plays the whole game. Imagine then that Kalinic or Nyland gets a full game in the next one.
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Good to see RHM get a game
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Very much the second string on now, Hogan, RHM, Bree and O'Hare all playing now.
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Lovely take down by Wes and pass to RHM
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Come on you Villa boys! Don't fuck this up!
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Great hold up play from big Wes, very much Benteke lite.
Passes to RHM who runs into box but hits it straight at O'Leary.
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Nice work from Wes. He's a big unit isn't he.
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Great control from Wes
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Jack effin Woodwank! Ffs who brought him back 🤬🤬🤬
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Thought Engels would of been involved in this one.
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Second half line up
Steer, Bree, Chester, Hause, Targett, O'Hare, Lansbury, Hourihane, Hepburn-Murphy, Hogan, Wesley.
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Jack Woodward just hasn’t shut up.
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RHM already superior to Green.
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RHM in 7 min has looked better than Green in 45
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RHM in 7 min has looked better than Green in 45
Indeed
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Did you know that 'Salop' in French is an alternative spelling of the word 'salaud', which means 'bastard'?
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Looked a penalty there, O'Hare clipped in box after turning.
Lansbury hit some good passes since coming on.
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Looked a penalty there, O'Hare clipped in box after turning.
Lansbury hit some good passes since coming on.
Ref is shite even by friendly standards. Oh well.
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Hogan not really staking a claim here, giving it away when in possession.
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Hogan not really staking a claim here, giving it away when in possession.
A shocking footballer.
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Some of the other bit-part players have looked really sharp here so far. Bjarnason, RHM, Cal O'Hare, even Bree. Interesting...
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How come Robert the bistro owner from Corrie is playing for them.
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This is looking a bit laboured now.
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This is looking a bit laboured now.
It's all about fitness at this stage, hard to get any fluidity with two entirely different teams in both halves.
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Bloody hell. Steer lucky not to be sent off vs what looked like last man
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Shrewsbury look very bloody strong for a L1 side. Expect them to have a very good season if they play up like this against lesser opposition.
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This is looking a bit laboured now.
It's all about fitness at this stage, hard to get any fluidity with two entirely different teams in both halves.
No I get it. You’d still think our overall quality would come through.
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Hogannnnnnnnnnnn
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Hogan. 1-0. Great set up from Wes.
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Blimey. That's a Kodak moment.
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Hogan lol 1-0
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Good play from Wesley to make that
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That was a nice finish
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superb play from Wesley, really good hold up play.
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Megs.
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I really do like RHM. He puts himself about.
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Get in!
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OMG Woodward is doing my chuffin head in, shut the f%&k up
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I really do like RHM. He puts himself about.
I think he can become a very good player on the right of a 3.
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Very much like the look of Wesley. Definitely needs good goalscorers playing off him though. Very curious to see if we go in for Maupay now.
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Thanks TV. RHM is a very underestimated player. Had his own song at Cam U.
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Wesley causing issues again. Should have done better from his hustle
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Thanks TV. RHM is a very underestimated player. Had his own song at Cam U.
I would have no issue if we binned Green for a million and kept RHM around. He’s so much a better player.
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Blimey. That's a Kodak moment.
Thank you I haven’t heard that phrase for many years 😊
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If you missed the goal
https://twitter.com/avfcofficial/status/1152948409415938048?s=12
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::)
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This is a good workout for us; Shrewsbury have been pretty decent.
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Great interception from Hourihane there.
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This is a good workout for us; Shrewsbury have been pretty decent.
They've got some big old units as well.
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Shrews appear to bring bringing a 12 year old on.
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Close by Conor from the free kick after a super run by RHM
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Hopefully that goal for Hogan helps us move him on before the deadline
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Hopefully that goal for Hogan helps us move him on before the deadline
Apart from the goal he’s been awful. 3 turnovers and 2 misplaced simple passes. He benefitted from the pass of a mean bought to replace him.
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Hopefully that goal for Hogan helps us move him on before the deadline
"Look - he can score! Please take him."
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Where's Chester gone?
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FT 1-0 decent workout
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FT 1-0 decent workout
My stream is at 75 mins.. thanks. Why?
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Where's Chester gone?
He was there at the end
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FT 1-0 decent workout
My stream is at 75 mins.. thanks. Why?
Didn’t you watch on YouTube?
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32,000 + watching it on YouTube
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Decent run out. Nothing to sing about but a few glimmers of quality to come. Big week ahead, both in terms of prep and potential incomings to strengthen further. Definitely need a DM & another striker.
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So who's your composite XI from that lot?
Steer
Guilbert Mings Hause Targett
Grealish McGinn O'Hare
Jota Wesley RHM
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Jack signing off with a 'God bless'. He's certainly a character.
'Mings pings' was another favourite, as was listening to him taking about himself in the third person.
Up the Villa!
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Where's Chester gone?
He was there at the end
Yeah saw that but for the last minute or so we were passing it around at the back and he was nowhere to be seen and Lansbury was effectively filling in for him. Hopefully it's nothing, was just wondering if someone had seen him go over the bench or something.
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So who's your composite XI from that lot?
Steer
Guilbert Mings Hause Targett
Grealish McGinn O'Hare
Jota Wesley RHM
Thinking the same hilts but midfield looks lightweight, I’d have Conor over O’Hare. Thought RHM was very good in that second half even if he got caught with the ball a few times.
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Where's Chester gone?
He was there at the end
Yeah saw that but for the last minute or so we were passing it around at the back and he was nowhere to be seen and Lansbury was effectively filling in for him. Hopefully it's nothing, was just wondering if someone had seen him go over the bench or something.
He’d slipped into LB when Targett moved forward on 88, so I assume the camera just didn’t catch him the rest of the way. He looked fine
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RHM did really well. Very direct, good pace. I like him.
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Thinking the same hilts but midfield looks lightweight, I’d have Conor over O’Hare. Thought RHM was very good in that second half even if he got caught with the ball a few times.
Yeah that was a toss up to be fair. I went with Callum because he was always busy, and Conor's set pieces weren't quite on the money.
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Some nice touches from Wesley, good assist for the otherwise really ineffective Hogan. The centre of midfield is a concern. Hourihane's distribution was poor from set pieces and Lansbury flits in and out of games. I hope that the Luiz deal goes through but my main concern is the whilst I think the first 11 is good enough, there isn't a massive amount behind it. I expect Jota, Hause, Engels/Konsa, Elmo, Kodjia on the bench but injuries like we had at times last season, could be really damaging.
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Jack signing off with a 'God bless'. He's certainly a character.
'Mings pings' was another favourite, as was listening to him taking about himself in the third person.
Up the Villa!
Certainly no change in style from JW since he's been away.
Is he still working for Derby as well ?
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So who's your composite XI from that lot?
Steer
Guilbert Mings Hause Targett
Grealish McGinn O'Hare
Jota Wesley RHM
Thinking the same hilts but midfield looks lightweight, I’d have Conor over O’Hare. Thought RHM was very good in that second half even if he got caught with the ball a few times.
No mention of Engels (?) , I'm convinced he will play a holding role in midfield........................Godzvilla
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Where's Chester gone?
He was there at the end
Yeah saw that but for the last minute or so we were passing it around at the back and he was nowhere to be seen and Lansbury was effectively filling in for him. Hopefully it's nothing, was just wondering if someone had seen him go over the bench or something.
He’d slipped into LB when Targett moved forward on 88, so I assume the camera just didn’t catch him the rest of the way. He looked fine
He walked off with about 5 minutes left. Did not look happy, perhaps he is still carrying the injury.
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Thought Jota in the first half looked excellent. For £4m that could be a fantastic bit of business. With Guilbert overlapping, him cutting in off the right works really well. I have a feeling that could be a really good combination this season for us - contrasts with AEG and (hopefully) Trezeguet's direct pace/dribbling. You can see that our best players (Jack, SJM, Mings etc) trust him on the ball, which is a great sign.
Wes looked excellent also - not just a hold-up man, ran in behind, had a few good efforts, excellent link up play, fantastic assist. Could be a really good focal point around which our attacking players can float.
The most important signing of the summer (apart from Mings) could be Douglas though - the centre of midfield looks so light, we really need a quality player in between Jack and SJM who can run the game and release them both - so Jack doesn't have to drop too deep to do that himself. Am really anxious that we get that one over the line ASAP. Could be akin to when Wolves got Neves.
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This might be heresy, but I'm not sure SJM is going to be good enough for the Premier League. Hope I'm wrong.
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This might be heresy, but I'm not sure SJM is going to be good enough for the Premier League. Hope I'm wrong.
Not necessarily knocking it - we'll see - but what is it about him that makes you think he won't be?
If you look at many central midfielders particularly in the bottom half of the league, he's not lacking in any quality. Feel like he'd be in with a shout of getting into most midfields outside of the top 8 maybe. Also young and will improve.
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O'Hare needs a loan, plenty of times ball was taken off him too easily. Just hasn't got that speed of thought currently so think loan will help him in that regard.
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O'Hare needs a loan, plenty of times ball was taken off him too easily. Just hasn't got that speed of thought currently so think loan will help him in that regard.
Yep needs a full season in the top half of the Championship
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Where's Chester gone?
Reading reports he walked off injured in last min. El ghazi injured too. Any updates on either ?
Great to hear jack WOODWARD commentary too... I think he’s entertaining
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This might be heresy, but I'm not sure SJM is going to be good enough for the Premier League. Hope I'm wrong.
That has crossed my mind, actually.
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All of our players need to adjust to the pace of the new league. SJM needs to up to speed and fitness. It’s a big step up
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One word to sum up the new players ; Tidy.
Specifically;
Wesley - A real presence, and he made RHM look good and got Hogan a goal. If he make those look good imagine how good El Ghazi, Jota, poss Trezeguet will look.
Guilbert - Good footballer, maybe a right hand version of Amavi which would be no bad thing if he's luckier with injuries.
Jota - Skillfull and thoughtful.
Targett - Composed
Konsa - Possibly the best of the lot, he certainly doesn't look his age, very strong and intelligent defender, looks like he's been playing years.
I am aware of the opposition but I was impressed with them individually.
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Thought it was a good run out today however some of the fans near me need to give their head a wobble. Shouting at players to track back and close down in a preseason friendly and then not celebrating the goal ‘because hogan scored’
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No keeper besides Steer today?
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This might be heresy, but I'm not sure SJM is going to be good enough for the Premier League. Hope I'm wrong.
That has crossed my mind, actually.
Yes I know what you are saying, he is unorthodox in the way he plays and maybe difficult to fit into a system and still get the best out of him.
He is the sort of player that potentially could impact a game though.
It will be interesting to see if he adapts to the step up.
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The earlier comment about Jack needing to move the ball more quickly: absolutely agree with that. He got away with it in the 2nd tier but will get caught out in the Premier League. Speed of thought and action is imperative for all our players.
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This might be heresy, but I'm not sure SJM is going to be good enough for the Premier League. Hope I'm wrong.
That has crossed my mind, actually.
Yes I know what you are saying, he is unorthodox in the way he plays and maybe difficult to fit into a system and still get the best out of him.
He is the sort of player that potentially could impact a game though.
It will be interesting to see if he adapts to the step up.
I think he will be just fine. He could well struggle against top 6, probably all our team will given the standard Man. City and Liverpool have grown to in time we've been away.
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Jack signing off with a 'God bless'. He's certainly a character.
'Mings pings' was another favourite, as was listening to him taking about himself in the third person.
Up the Villa!
He is very religious, single and still lives with his Mom.
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Oh, fuck. I've morphed into eastie.
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Jack signing off with a 'God bless'. He's certainly a character.
'Mings pings' was another favourite, as was listening to him taking about himself in the third person.
Up the Villa!
He is very religious, single and still lives with his Mom.
I knew he was a true believer as it were, but please tell me you're joking on the latter point...
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Not a joke.
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The earlier comment about Jack needing to move the ball more quickly: absolutely agree with that. He got away with it in the 2nd tier but will get caught out in the Premier League. Speed of thought and action is imperative for all our players.
It’s usually most teams tactic to close him down quickly or double on him, but I think part of the problem/solution here is having players around him that move and make themselves available. As an example, today there were a bunch of statues ahead of him so the only options he had most of the time was to hold onto the ball or pass it backwards/sideways. He needs support from better players than what was out there today, so it’s important that the new players we bring in midfield and up front are on his wavelength.
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I think McGinn will be fine. He may turn out to look ordinary against the top teams (or maybe not) but he'll be the difference in some of the games against the lesser teams because he works ridiculously hard and generally uses the ball well, he'll make a big difference to our overall possession stats in such games. This'll keep us on the front foot which was what happened in some of the games that we won last season.
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The earlier comment about Jack needing to move the ball more quickly: absolutely agree with that. He got away with it in the 2nd tier but will get caught out in the Premier League. Speed of thought and action is imperative for all our players.
It’s usually most teams tactic to close him down quickly or double on him, but I think part of the problem/solution here is having players around him that move and make themselves available. As an example, today there were a bunch of statues ahead of him so the only options he had most of the time was to hold onto the ball or pass it backwards/sideways. He needs support from better players than what was out there today, so it’s important that the new players we bring in midfield and up front are on his wavelength.
Absolutely agree with this on both points. Move the ball quicker, but have players around Jack who can receive the ball in any position and be on the same wavelength. This is something that I am sure that Dean sees too. Once the 11 starters are named, I hope that they are all of a quality and better than what we had today.
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Had the great pleasure of briefly meeting Border Villain and Sadd Villain this evening when they turned up at my local post-match.
We agreed that Wesley looks a real talent and that Hogan is shit and needs shipped out asap.
See you again soon, I hope. UTV.
Rodders
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The earlier comment about Jack needing to move the ball more quickly: absolutely agree with that. He got away with it in the 2nd tier but will get caught out in the Premier League. Speed of thought and action is imperative for all our players.
Its usually most teams tactic to close him down quickly or double on him, but I think part of the problem/solution here is having players around him that move and make themselves available. As an example, today there were a bunch of statues ahead of him so the only options he had most of the time was to hold onto the ball or pass it backwards/sideways. He needs support from better players than what was out there today, so its important that the new players we bring in midfield and up front are on his wavelength.
Absolutely agree with this on both points. Move the ball quicker, but have players around Jack who can receive the ball in any position and be on the same wavelength. This is something that I am sure that Dean sees too. Once the 11 starters are named, I hope that they are all of a quality and better than what we had today.
It was a pre season game and thought his fitness looked good
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Had the great pleasure of briefly meeting Border Villain and Sadd Villain this evening when they turned up at my local post-match.
We agreed that Wesley looks a real talent and that Hogan is shit and needs shipped out asap.
See you again soon, I hope. UTV.
Rodders
Rodders, the pleasure was all yours😉
Great to see a fellow fan at Ratchap. We walk the dog and visit the Bridges from time to time and live in ‘anud.
Sadd Villan is on tour from the grim north.
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The earlier comment about Jack needing to move the ball more quickly: absolutely agree with that. He got away with it in the 2nd tier but will get caught out in the Premier League. Speed of thought and action is imperative for all our players.
Yes, however, like others here, I think they are trying out what they have been practicing at BMH and that maybe Jack is playing more of a supportive role in the team at the moment. I have seen him move faster!
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No keeper besides Steer today?
Perhaps goalkeepers need more than 45 minutes to be assessed. They’re not out there or involved until the play comes their way.
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Had the great pleasure of briefly meeting Border Villain and Sadd Villain this evening when they turned up at my local post-match.
We agreed that Wesley looks a real talent and that Hogan is shit and needs shipped out asap.
See you again soon, I hope. UTV.
Rodders
Rodders, the pleasure was all yours😉
Great to see a fellow fan at Ratchap. We walk the dog and visit the Bridges from time to time and live in ‘anud.
Sadd Villan is on tour from the hate grim north.
The north? Not... Wem...?!
I recognised your distinctive number plate from round and about the place - had always wondered who owned it and now I know! It's rather a good one; I'd always thought that Doug had bought a holiday home nearby :)
Happy to buy you a drink or five when you're next in my hood - pm me so I can ensure my escape, cough, attendance of the Ratchup Lions Chapter.
UTV.
Rodders
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Highlight was Jota, looked comfortable on the ball and oozed real quality, so much that I overheard a young Shrew ask his Villa supporting old man if he had arrived from Barcelona.
The step up to the PL will be a bit of a shock to the system for some of the players, I feel more quality is required in midfield and attack plus a well established GK.
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Smith would not have learned anything new from yesterday.
Mings inspired signing, Taylor not good enough, Holding midfield role up for grabs. Goalkeeper need one ready for the premiership.
All this quicker distribution from Jack a load of tosh - he would have an instant answer with El Ghazi and would link better with SJM.
Good day out though.
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A few thoughts on yesterday. Jota and Gilbert looked quite good in the first half and everything seemed to go though Grealish who looked up for it. Second half, I was quite impressed by RHM who looked sharp, Hogan looked ok once he'd got his goal and Big Wes reminded me of Crouch.
A pleasant day all round.
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If you missed the goal
https://twitter.com/avfcofficial/status/1152948409415938048?s=12
Nice ball through, but a Prem quality keeper probably would’ve come out and hoofed that before SH got anywhere near it.
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Jack Woodward just hasn’t shut up.
Dead air is a crime!
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Didn’t get chance to watch it all but has Dean opted for his favoured 4-3-3 now? It looked like it from the bits I saw. If so it just shows how he managed to make a silk purse out of a sows ear last year with a system he doesn’t even like! Now we have 2 attacking full backs I guess we can expect our wingers to be more in field playing with Jack just like Jota did yesterday
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If you look at the player profiles on the o/s, admittedly they're currently blank, but they only categorize GK, Defence, mid-field and striker!
There are no forwards! you're either mid-field or a striker.
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Reflecting on yesterday. Big Wes looked the part. Scott Hogan, despite scoring, is not good enough and needs to go. Andre Green was largely missing in action and Kiean Davies, for all his endeavour, lacks quality. Davies and Green need a loan period as a make or break. RHM looked OK wide on the left, but again needs a loan to see if he can build on this promise and more importantly stay fit.
Chester going off is a worry.
In goal from having 5 keepers at the end of the season we now have a situation where Steer had to play both halves, so at least one new keeper is needed.
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Jack Woodward just hasn’t shut up.
Dead air is a crime!
I know but bloody hell listening to him makes me thing we will win the league ;)
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Didn’t get chance to watch it all but has Dean opted for his favoured 4-3-3 now? It looked like it from the bits I saw. If so it just shows how he managed to make a silk purse out of a sows ear last year with a system he doesn’t even like! Now we have 2 attacking full backs I guess we can expect our wingers to be more in field playing with Jack just like Jota did yesterday
We played 4-3-3 last year too?
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Bloody hell....it’s Soft Cell
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The earlier comment about Jack needing to move the ball more quickly: absolutely agree with that. He got away with it in the 2nd tier but will get caught out in the Premier League. Speed of thought and action is imperative for all our players.
I used to think this about Jack too, but after last season I've started to think he's just that good that he can play like that.
The Rotheram and Blues goals are examples of times when I've felt he's held on to the ball way too long in the build up and the finishes it off. I've no doubt it'll be harder in the Prem but I think if he knows he's got the beating of someone he's confident enough to hold it for that bit longer. I think it sets a tone too.
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No keeper besides Steer today?
Perhaps goalkeepers need more than 45 minutes to be assessed. They’re not out there or involved until the play comes their way.
No point in playing them more like. I'd have thought there's almost no chance either of them will play a minute in the league next season.
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Made me smile when the commentator at the start of the game, was saying how loud the Villa fans were and you could hear bout 4 people singing.
what surprised me was at half time, I would have thought there would have been a few commercials on in between the first and second halves
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Finding Parking around the ground was horrendous
everything else was nice
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Full game is on YT so watched it again last night. Have to say I thought Konsa and Mings looked good together and if anything Konsa was the more composed. Also expected more from Targett going forward and didn’t think he looked great defensively but I guess it’s early days
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Nice little ground, decent balti pie and they were very complimentary about the Villa. Good day all round.
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Apparently Steer being criticised after the game the other day. I don’t like how we’re distributing it from so deep at the back (Lambert-esque at times), but can’t say I saw Steer do much wrong or make any mistakes:
https://www.footballfancast.com/premier-league/aston-villa/aston-villa-fans-lambast-jed-steer-after-pre-season-victory/amp