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Title: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: bjfoster on May 29, 2019, 01:02:27 PM
Feel free to move to the tickets section.

I am looking to get a Season Ticket next season for the first time. Does anyone think there will be a sudden surge in demand now that we are back where we belong?

They are currently off sale and according to Twitter they will announce shortly(?) when they go back on sale, prices, etc. You would think whilst people have the feel-good factor they would want to make the most of it and shift as many as they can,

Does anyone have any further information?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: GordonCowansisthegreatest on May 29, 2019, 01:46:21 PM
Waiting to see if they can up the price now for the Prem!!
Weren't they on offer at frozen prices for a while?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: UK Redsox on May 29, 2019, 01:48:15 PM
Waiting to see if they can up the price now for the Prem!!
Weren't they on offer at frozen prices for a while?

Yeah, I renewed at the frozen price and now I'm being ripped off because the per-game price has gone up*



*  ;)
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: exiled on the wirral! on May 29, 2019, 02:19:33 PM
Interesting to see if they open the Upper Trinity permanently next season and sell season tickets up there again
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: danno on May 29, 2019, 02:22:32 PM
Interesting to see if they open the Upper Trinity permanently next season and sell season tickets up there again

I'd be flabbergasted if they didn't.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ads on May 29, 2019, 02:23:00 PM
I'd be surprised if we dont average 40,000 next season and fully expect us to sell more season tickets than we have before.

The record is only 26,000 and we've sold 20,000 odd prior to the Play Offs.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: NottsVilla on May 29, 2019, 02:32:18 PM
I'm off to university in September so I won't be renewing my season ticket. Will it be easier for me to buy tickets because I've been regularly for the last 2 seasons, or does buying history get refreshed?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on May 29, 2019, 03:36:43 PM
Last weekend has rekindled my passion for the club - hopefully this is the start of an upturn of fortunes and a boost for my health too
Me and Junior intend to buy season tickets for the first time since our relegation ( the absence being due to a culmination of  ill health and being unable to work, rather than fickleness, although the shit football didn't help)
Anyone any idea when they will be on sale?
I've sent an e-mail to the club and await a response
Sunday gave me a buzz that I've not experienced for a long time - long may it continue
UTV

Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: olaftab on May 29, 2019, 03:43:34 PM
I'm off to university in September so I won't be renewing my season ticket. Will it be easier for me to buy tickets because I've been regularly for the last 2 seasons, or does buying history get refreshed?
Initially it will work but after about 10 games current season's history kicks in. Enjoy Uni by the  way. 
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: olaftab on May 29, 2019, 03:47:13 PM
Waiting to see if they can up the price now for the Prem!!
Weren't they on offer at frozen prices for a while?

Yeah, I renewed at the frozen price and now I'm being ripped off because the per-game price has gone up*



*  ;)
Yup we have been cheated out of 4 games :(

But delighted and hope the new price is double the amount we paid (not really)
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: NottsVilla on May 29, 2019, 05:06:13 PM
I'm off to university in September so I won't be renewing my season ticket. Will it be easier for me to buy tickets because I've been regularly for the last 2 seasons, or does buying history get refreshed?
Initially it will work but after about 10 games current season's history kicks in. Enjoy Uni by the  way.

Thanks I'm really looking forward to it. I might try and build up a history in August and September so I have a chance at the big away matches
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: danno on May 29, 2019, 05:08:57 PM
I'm off to university in September so I won't be renewing my season ticket. Will it be easier for me to buy tickets because I've been regularly for the last 2 seasons, or does buying history get refreshed?
Initially it will work but after about 10 games current season's history kicks in. Enjoy Uni by the  way.

Thanks I'm really looking forward to it. I might try and build up a history in August and September so I have a chance at the big away matches

Think you'll be fine but You could always buy a claret membership at start of season, depending on how worried you are about getting tickets.  Not sure how much that will help for aways though.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Duncan Shaw on May 29, 2019, 05:23:05 PM
Aways will be tough this coming season I reckon - everyone wanting to go to the big grounds again and probably smaller allocations than we get at a lot of grounds in the Championship.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: bjfoster on May 29, 2019, 05:23:34 PM
Waiting to see if they can up the price now for the Prem!!
Weren't they on offer at frozen prices for a while?

Well I'm looking at getting one in either K3 or K4 which was about £550 before they took them off sale. Can't imagine they'd go up more than 10% tho (hopefully)?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: richtheholtender on May 29, 2019, 06:21:56 PM
When do they go back on sale?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Luffbralion on May 29, 2019, 06:26:16 PM
When I phoned the ticket office they said an update about season tickets would be made in the next few days.I renewed under the early bird scheme anyway but now want to join the away scheme too - anyone know how that will operate next season? Thanks for any information.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: exigo on May 29, 2019, 06:40:43 PM
Be interesting to see how much prices go up. I paid the early bird for L3 at £500, which would have worked out around £21.75 per game, versus £27 single match tickets. That £500 now equates to around £26.30 per game, but I can't see them taking match tickets up an extra £5 to £32 to balance it.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: rougegorge on May 29, 2019, 06:43:58 PM
Aways will be tough this coming season I reckon - everyone wanting to go to the big grounds again and probably smaller allocations than we get at a lot of grounds in the Championship.
Yes, I doubt if there will be any large allocations like at Blackburn, Preston, Wigan etc. Even at grounds like the Taxpayers Stadium,  the allocation will be smaller as they have to cater for football tourism as well.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Hookeysmith on May 29, 2019, 07:05:03 PM
I'd be surprised if we dont average 40,000 next season and fully expect us to sell more season tickets than we have before.

The record is only 26,000 and we've sold 20,000 odd prior to the Play Offs.

When you look at those numbers it not hard to see why our idiotic neighbours get into such a frenzied hatred.

My signature was a direct quote from their previous owner.

And they genuinely think they are rivals.

Fools
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ads on May 29, 2019, 07:24:27 PM
I think it will go only one way. My thoughts on realistic expectations are to build something sustainable and part of that is an increase in capacity.

If we can get de facto home sell outs for several games in a row and average 36,000 in the 2nd tier, then we can sell out every week.

1) A better quality of football on offer from us
2) Better quality of players for us
3) More glamorous and higher quality opposition
4) £30 capped away prices effectively guarantees 2800 away every home game, something we've seen precious little at Villa Park.
5) The feeling that we're going somewhere.

All five factors should means we can add two or three thousand extra season tickets on, which in turn reduces the walk ups availability. That decreases the time it takes to sell out and all of a sudden having a season ticket becomes a necessity.

I really do think, if we invest well this summer and have a good season of consolidation, then for at least the latter half of 2020/21 we will see crowds at Villa Park above 50,000.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: WeybridgeVillans on May 30, 2019, 09:31:29 AM
I'm off to university in September so I won't be renewing my season ticket. Will it be easier for me to buy tickets because I've been regularly for the last 2 seasons, or does buying history get refreshed?
sort of in the same boat as have season tickets with my son and heís off to uni too. Club says they are restarting the official resale site (with sales prices capped to stop speculators) so maybe looking to renew his anyway and offload those he canít attend. No Ďofficial Ď announcement as yet though so maybe contact them to confirm if you go our route?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Villafirst on May 30, 2019, 11:47:00 AM
I missed the early bird renewal offer. I tried to renew my ST yesterday but was told they're still considering prices. Still no announcement on this??
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: olaftab on May 30, 2019, 11:50:19 AM
I really do think, if we invest well this summer and have a good season of consolidation, then for at least the latter half of 2020/21 we will see crowds at Villa Park above 50,000.
That would be nice but where do we seat them? Can't see anything changing ground wise in that time scale.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: cannock villa on May 30, 2019, 11:53:35 AM
Wonder if the Upper Trinity will be open for all games now
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: JJ-AV on May 30, 2019, 12:47:43 PM
Wonder if the Upper Trinity will be open for all games now

I would think so.

Be great if we could get to 28k season tickets. Would imagine we could be close to a 40k average with that.

Then redevelopment of the North Stand looks realistic again. I'd love us to get back up there with one of the bigger grounds in the country. Too many clubs have leapfrogged us over the past few years.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: London Villan on May 30, 2019, 01:02:18 PM
Spurs have raised the bar. Edens will no doubt have a big input in the facilities upgrades.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: KRS on May 30, 2019, 01:05:13 PM
The North Stand redevelopment/replacement is long overdue, but lets get back to cementing our place back in the Premier League and filling Villa Park every week first.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Hookeysmith on May 30, 2019, 01:12:18 PM
The North Stand redevelopment/replacement is long overdue, but lets get back to cementing our place back in the Premier League and filling Villa Park every week first.

always this

team and performances come first

You look at the stadium when we have a big waiting list for tickets
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ad@m on May 30, 2019, 08:49:13 PM
I really do think, if we invest well this summer and have a good season of consolidation, then for at least the latter half of 2020/21 we will see crowds at Villa Park above 50,000.

I'll take that bet!
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: pooligan on May 31, 2019, 12:54:05 AM
Only downside of returning to the Premier for me will be away games and trying to get a ticket will be almost impossible .I  had to go in the home end at places like Blackburn,Preston and Wigan and that was despite large allocations .Trying to get a ticket for my local venues ,Liverpool,Everton ,Man Utd ,Man City and Burnley will be almost impossible
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ad@m on May 31, 2019, 07:02:24 AM
I always found it much easier to get away tickets in the Prem than the Championship.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: ChicagoLion on June 01, 2019, 04:16:36 PM
The North Stand redevelopment/replacement is long overdue, but lets get back to cementing our place back in the Premier League and filling Villa Park every week first.

always this

team and performances come first

You look at the stadium when we have a big waiting list for tickets
Itís ugly though.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Three Spires Villa on June 01, 2019, 05:46:13 PM
I always found it much easier to get away tickets in the Prem than the Championship.

Agree with that but maybe because we were rubbish in the prem
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Toronto Villa on June 01, 2019, 06:27:11 PM
Yep. It will be very hard next season to get as many tickets as we did this. PL games are for the most part very well attended now and the away allocation with the exception of some of the bigger stadiums will be quite a bit more limited I'd have thought. We'll take our full allocation everywhere.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Dazvillain on June 01, 2019, 10:15:14 PM
Does the club put a limit on ST quantities, to leave some match day availability ?
Wonder if upper trinity will be open every game ?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: ChicagoLion on June 01, 2019, 10:47:26 PM
Does the club put a limit on ST quantities, to leave some match day availability ?
Wonder if upper trinity will be open every game ?
There were not many left at the early bird ending,so I can not see how they will not open the 3rd tier.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: SoccerHQ on June 02, 2019, 02:28:34 PM
We'll get 40k no problem for first 4-5 home games. Real feelgood factor early on and we'll likely play at least one of the top 6 in that spell (wouldn't it be nice to get Arsenal or Man. United early and try to end that home hoodoo v them?) Wolves will also be 40k.

Think it will then drop off a bit, the usual, winter, Monday night kick offs and we're annually rubbish in December/January.

Good point on the away allocations, anyone know which club gives out the biggest allocation nowadays? In seasons gone by who could always rely on one of Wigan, Blackburn and Bolton to give away their big ends behind the goal if demand was there. Fulham with the neutral stand have gone down aswell.

Just seems it will be 3k for pretty much all grounds if that.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Toronto Villa on June 02, 2019, 02:50:15 PM
I think we will average close to 40 all season. Heck we averaged 33 in the year we went down.

There seems to be a real appreciation by fans of the journey to get back to the PL. The malaise of the Lerner years and ultimate relegation took a toll on everyone. Dean Smith has brought back the family feeling of this club. Tickets will be much harder to come by which in truth is a wonderful thing.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Pete3206 on June 02, 2019, 03:46:36 PM
Agree, we'll be touching 40k every game next season.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: mike on June 02, 2019, 04:07:01 PM
I'd be surprised if we dont average 40,000 next season and fully expect us to sell more season tickets than we have before.

The record is only 26,000 and we've sold 20,000 odd prior to the Play Offs.

When you look at those numbers it not hard to see why our idiotic neighbours get into such a frenzied hatred.

My signature was a direct quote from their previous owner.

And they genuinely think they are rivals.

Fools

If we had a ground the size of their dump, we would fill it for every match. How they can claim to be the 'real' Birmingham Club when they sell less tickets than Everton, who are the smaller of two teams in a smaller city is beyond me.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Lastfootstamper on June 02, 2019, 04:20:01 PM
I'm assuming the delay in any announcement is due mainly to the club wrestling with a decision of whether or not to let me have my old seat back upstairs for little or no extra cash as reward for my continued loyalty after being booted out three years ago.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Des Little on June 02, 2019, 05:01:00 PM
I'm assuming the delay in any announcement is due mainly to the club wrestling with a decision of whether or not to let me have my old seat back upstairs for little or no extra cash as reward for my continued loyalty after being booted out three years ago.

...and mine
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Brassneck on June 02, 2019, 07:02:11 PM
Yep. It will be very hard next season to get as many tickets as we did this. PL games are for the most part very well attended now and the away allocation with the exception of some of the bigger stadiums will be quite a bit more limited I'd have thought. We'll take our full allocation everywhere.

PL teams have to offer 3000 I think, whereas the Championship minimum was only2000.  We reduced our allocation to visiting fans in the championship. I suspect weíll have to open the corner section agat.

Also, many away grounds in the Championship only give you the 2000 minimum.  For every Preston or Wiganís, there was an Ipswich or a millwall.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: DB on June 02, 2019, 07:50:28 PM
Yep. It will be very hard next season to get as many tickets as we did this. PL games are for the most part very well attended now and the away allocation with the exception of some of the bigger stadiums will be quite a bit more limited I'd have thought. We'll take our full allocation everywhere.

PL teams have to offer 3000 I think, whereas the Championship minimum was only2000.  We reduced our allocation to visiting fans in the championship. I suspect weíll have to open the corner section agat.

Also, many away grounds in the Championship only give you the 2000 minimum.  For every Preston or Wiganís, there was an Ipswich or a millwall.

I thought it was down to each clubís discretion how many they offer. Itís certainly not as high as 3k, we only give 2,700 (?) Bournemouth only hold just over 10k, so that would mean almost a third of their stadium would be away fans.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 02, 2019, 07:59:23 PM
Yep. It will be very hard next season to get as many tickets as we did this. PL games are for the most part very well attended now and the away allocation with the exception of some of the bigger stadiums will be quite a bit more limited I'd have thought. We'll take our full allocation everywhere.

PL teams have to offer 3000 I think, whereas the Championship minimum was only2000.  We reduced our allocation to visiting fans in the championship. I suspect weíll have to open the corner section agat.

Also, many away grounds in the Championship only give you the 2000 minimum.  For every Preston or Wiganís, there was an Ipswich or a millwall.

I thought it was down to each clubís discretion how many they offer. Itís certainly not as high as 3k, we only give 2,700 (?) Bournemouth only hold just over 10k, so that would mean almost a third of their stadium would be away fans.

It's 10% or 3,000, whichever is the smaller, unless like us, segregation wouldn't be possible.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Brassneck on June 02, 2019, 08:03:56 PM
Yep. It will be very hard next season to get as many tickets as we did this. PL games are for the most part very well attended now and the away allocation with the exception of some of the bigger stadiums will be quite a bit more limited I'd have thought. We'll take our full allocation everywhere.

PL teams have to offer 3000 I think, whereas the Championship minimum was only2000.  We reduced our allocation to visiting fans in the championship. I suspect weíll have to open the corner section agat.

Also, many away grounds in the Championship only give you the 2000 minimum.  For every Preston or Wiganís, there was an Ipswich or a millwall.

I thought it was down to each clubís discretion how many they offer. Itís certainly not as high as 3k, we only give 2,700 (?) Bournemouth only hold just over 10k, so that would mean almost a third of their stadium would be away fans.

No - Itís 3000 for most grounds and only less for the smaller grounds like Bournemouth.

We gave 2700 max in the championship but will be required to give a few more next season
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: SoccerHQ on June 02, 2019, 08:06:51 PM
Must be 500 seats in that corner between North and Witton.

Part of the reason why our capacity crowds this season weren't going over 42k.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 02, 2019, 08:31:16 PM
Premier League rules dictate that the allocation of away tickets should be: "3,000 tickets or, if the capacity of the home club's stadium is less than 30,000, such number of tickets as is equal to 10 per cent."
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Toronto Villa on June 02, 2019, 09:19:13 PM
We certainly arenít taking 5/6000 or whatever weíve done this season to some places. Tickets will be at a premium home and away for our brilliant supporters.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: cdbullyweefan on June 02, 2019, 09:33:32 PM
I think a few clubs have reduced away allocations since the maximum £30 rule came in, as they would rather fleece more home fans at full price.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: adrenachrome on June 03, 2019, 12:34:15 AM
I think a few clubs have reduced away allocations since the maximum £30 rule came in, as they would rather fleece more home fans at full price.

Fleece the flock
Don't givva fock
We need the wedge
So suck my (can't think of a word that rhymes - school's out for summer)
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Brassneck on June 03, 2019, 12:52:25 AM
Gate money is peanuts these days - If home teams can fill areas with their own fans and still comply with the 3000 minimum rule then they are bound to do so, as did Cardiff last season.

Even many teams in the Championship would prefer to have empty seats, rather than give the visiting team more fans.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: stubbsyandy on June 03, 2019, 08:20:30 AM
Aways will be tough this coming season I reckon - everyone wanting to go to the big grounds again and probably smaller allocations than we get at a lot of grounds in the Championship.
Thereís only one big ground and your season ticket will get you in🤪
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: SoccerHQ on June 03, 2019, 10:52:35 AM
I think a few clubs have reduced away allocations since the maximum £30 rule came in, as they would rather fleece more home fans at full price.

Another thing I forgot about. That rule came in the season we went down.

At least if we do get a thrashing at Man. City people at least won't be paying 40 + quid to witness it. Same for Chelsea.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Bad English on June 03, 2019, 11:12:35 AM
Fleece the flock
Don't givva fock
We need the wedge
So suck my (can't think of a word that rhymes - school's out for summer)
cutting-edge
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on June 03, 2019, 11:30:01 AM
Gate money is peanuts these days -

"Big" clubs continue to rake in money from gate receipts - Man United made £112m in 2017, Liverpool £73m, Man City £52m........all the way down to Bournemouth's £6m. 
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Villafirst on June 03, 2019, 11:33:59 AM
Gate money is peanuts these days -

"Big" clubs continue to rake in money from gate receipts - Man United made £112m in 2017, Liverpool £73m, Man City £52m........all the way down to Bournemouth's £6m. 

Yes, Bournemouth's replica Bescot Stadium! 11,000 capacity which is smaller than the Holte End's capacity!
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Brassneck on June 03, 2019, 01:12:32 PM
Gate money is peanuts these days -

"Big" clubs continue to rake in money from gate receipts - Man United made £112m in 2017, Liverpool £73m, Man City £52m........all the way down to Bournemouth's £6m.

That would have to include hospitality.  Unless the admission for home fans is approaching £100
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on June 03, 2019, 01:15:44 PM
Gate money is peanuts these days -

"Big" clubs continue to rake in money from gate receipts - Man United made £112m in 2017, Liverpool £73m, Man City £52m........all the way down to Bournemouth's £6m.

That would have to include hospitality.  Unless the admission for home fans is approaching £100

Yes - money made by the clubs from matchday revenue. And at £17.50 for fish and chips at the Emirates, I'm surprised Arsenal aren't top of the league. Either way, money from paying matchday "customers" is still significant.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: London Villan on June 03, 2019, 01:31:47 PM
Average punter gate receipts are around 10% of Premier League club revenue apparently.

I did think Arsenal had the highest revenue in terms of hospitality - as an example they have one box which costs £50k per match... and that's before you've had a drink or anything to eat...
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: amfy on June 03, 2019, 02:20:46 PM
Average punter gate receipts are around 10% of Premier League club revenue apparently.

I did think Arsenal had the highest revenue in terms of hospitality - as an example they have one box which costs £50k per match... and that's before you've had a drink or anything to eat...

I would imagine that at 50k a match it includes anything you drink and eat?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: john e on June 03, 2019, 03:23:18 PM
Gate money is peanuts these days -

"Big" clubs continue to rake in money from gate receipts - Man United made £112m in 2017, Liverpool £73m, Man City £52m........all the way down to Bournemouth's £6m.

That would have to include hospitality.  Unless the admission for home fans is approaching £100

Yes - money made by the clubs from matchday revenue. And at £17.50 for fish and chips at the Emirates, I'm surprised Arsenal aren't top of the league. Either way, money from paying matchday "customers" is still significant.

is that true then £17.50 for fish and chips at Arsenal

is that just basic f&c in a carry away plastic tray or something you get with a sit down meal in hospitality
Iím intrigued to know
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ad@m on June 03, 2019, 03:29:50 PM
Gate money is peanuts these days -

"Big" clubs continue to rake in money from gate receipts - Man United made £112m in 2017, Liverpool £73m, Man City £52m........all the way down to Bournemouth's £6m.

That would have to include hospitality.  Unless the admission for home fans is approaching £100

Yes - money made by the clubs from matchday revenue. And at £17.50 for fish and chips at the Emirates, I'm surprised Arsenal aren't top of the league. Either way, money from paying matchday "customers" is still significant.

is that true then £17.50 for fish and chips at Arsenal

is that just basic f&c in a carry away plastic tray or something you get with a sit down meal in hospitality
Iím intrigued to know


I'm also flabbergasted if that's true.  I thought £6 for a pint of Star in the Villa fanzone before the play off final was London-pricing gone silly but £17.50 for fish & chips?!  Jesus wept.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: London Villan on June 03, 2019, 03:45:12 PM
Average punter gate receipts are around 10% of Premier League club revenue apparently.

I did think Arsenal had the highest revenue in terms of hospitality - as an example they have one box which costs £50k per match... and that's before you've had a drink or anything to eat...

I would imagine that at 50k a match it includes anything you drink and eat?

Nope - and it's a buffet too!
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Hinckley Dave on June 03, 2019, 03:55:49 PM
I remember about 5 or 6 year back outside White Hart Lane getting a greasy burger and bottle of pop each for me and the little un, £20! When I asked if I could pay by monthly installments I must have missed the famous cheeky chirpy cockney sense of humour.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Nev on June 03, 2019, 04:07:56 PM
A pint of lager in the London Stadium at the weekend was £6.50 (before you say it, no I wasn't there watching Muse, I'd rather set fire to my head). Captive event prices are spiralling, I only paid £6 for the first time at the airport last year.

Football isn't far behind. When will we see the first £7 pint?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Kimaster1976 on June 03, 2019, 08:25:46 PM
Fish & Chips at Wembley last Monday was £9.20, i thought that was steep and it grieved me to pay it considering its less than £5 from my local chippy for Fish twice the size and double the amount of Chips.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: purpletrousers on June 04, 2019, 01:52:30 AM
Fish & Chips at Wembley last Monday was £9.20, i thought that was steep and it grieved me to pay it considering its less than £5 from my local chippy for Fish twice the size and double the amount of Chips.

Thatíll learn you to forget your marmite sarny.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Lastfootstamper on June 08, 2019, 12:29:34 PM
They're taking their time about this. Has anyone heard owt?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: ChicagoLion on June 08, 2019, 12:50:30 PM
They must be thinking about opening the 3rd tier to Season tickets.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Delta1uk on June 08, 2019, 12:57:20 PM
Lads quick question my mate has renewed his season ticket but he is no longer able to attend (taken a job in bonnie Scotland)   I am happy to take it off his hands at the price he paid but would it be possible to get details changed without paying the current price?  I know itís slughtlg off topic.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: amfy on June 08, 2019, 01:13:51 PM
Lads quick question my mate has renewed his season ticket but he is no longer able to attend (taken a job in bonnie Scotland)   I am happy to take it off his hands at the price he paid but would it be possible to get details changed without paying the current price?  I know itís slughtlg off topic.

My guess would be no - but there is nothing to stop him changing his address to yours instead of his and you simply using it all season!
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Delta1uk on June 08, 2019, 01:40:37 PM
Cheers Amfy. Will start with that but hoping to get the name changed over as well so I can then renew it myself next season.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Mister E on June 08, 2019, 05:47:23 PM
Lads quick question my mate has renewed his season ticket but he is no longer able to attend (taken a job in bonnie Scotland)   I am happy to take it off his hands at the price he paid but would it be possible to get details changed without paying the current price?  I know itís slughtlg off topic.
You could always ask the ticket office ...
... you wouldn't need to give names or anything at this stage
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: purpletrousers on June 10, 2019, 01:46:35 AM
How much would eg a lower Holte* ST be likely to be, eg how much was last year / early bird / guessed increase? Daft to dream it and getting grief for the idea but feeling necessary.

*how does it work, do they sell you an ST wherever they have a gap, but put a ceiling on how many STs are sold?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: spangley1812 on June 10, 2019, 05:05:52 AM
How much would eg a lower Holte* ST be likely to be, eg how much was last year / early bird / guessed increase? Daft to dream it and getting grief for the idea but feeling necessary.

*how does it work, do they sell you an ST wherever they have a gap, but put a ceiling on how many STs are sold?

When they go back on sale which will be pretty soon they will give the existing season ticket holders (who didn't renew on the early bird deal) a chance to renew until then you can only buy "any gaps" that they have....

No idea on prices, no limits on season tickets...Ö.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Dazvillain on June 10, 2019, 08:23:07 AM
How much would eg a lower Holte* ST be likely to be, eg how much was last year / early bird / guessed increase? Daft to dream it and getting grief for the idea but feeling necessary.

*how does it work, do they sell you an ST wherever they have a gap, but put a ceiling on how many STs are sold?

Anyone know what our limit for ST was or is going to be ?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: spk on June 10, 2019, 08:30:03 AM
30,000 ish,its 75% of capacity.It would be good if we sell that many !
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: nodge on June 10, 2019, 09:53:21 AM
Just got my credit card bill, £29.50 for 5 halves of Pissweiser at Wembley. Iíd got in the card only queue and didnít realise until I got near to the front. As did the bloke in front of me who didnít have a credit card. As weíd just scored the first goal he got a free beer from me and I didnít even look at the prices I was that giddy!
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: ChicagoLion on June 10, 2019, 10:13:04 AM
30,000 ish,its 75% of capacity.It would be good if we sell that many !
Is that some sort of rule?
Is there anything to stop them selling the whole ground less the away section?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Dazvillain on June 10, 2019, 10:56:46 AM
30,000 ish,its 75% of capacity.It would be good if we sell that many !
Is that some sort of rule?
Is there anything to stop them selling the whole ground less the away section?
They have to keep some for general sale/for sale by number of games attended but didnít know how difficult itís going to be to get odd games tickets
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: UK Redsox on June 10, 2019, 11:21:18 AM
30,000 ish,its 75% of capacity.It would be good if we sell that many !
Is that some sort of rule?
Is there anything to stop them selling the whole ground less the away section?
They have to keep some for general sale/for sale by number of games attended but didnít know how difficult itís going to be to get odd games tickets

Hopefully the club will get a face-value resale system for STs in place before the start of the season
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: sid1964 on June 10, 2019, 12:58:54 PM
i would be surprised if we did sell 30,000 for me the club have missed out on a lot of fans, who may have brought one after the euphoria of winning the play off final
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Duncan Shaw on June 10, 2019, 01:54:17 PM
i would be surprised if we did sell 30,000 for me the club have missed out on a lot of fans, who may have brought one after the euphoria of winning the play off final

That's a really good point!
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: lennythekad on June 10, 2019, 02:57:42 PM
I canít believe they werenít on sale, the day after the play off final!. Surely it wouldnít have been difficult to have two sets of prices ready, for whichever division we were in?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: amfy on June 10, 2019, 07:49:43 PM
I canít believe they werenít on sale, the day after the play off final!. Surely it wouldnít have been difficult to have two sets of prices ready, for whichever division we were in?

This is totally what I expected. I would have at the very least expected them to be back on sale by the following Monday.

Now we are fast running into the time where people have to weigh their season ticket spend against their holiday spending money.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Risso on June 10, 2019, 07:52:37 PM
It's ridiculous to be honest.  Does any other club make it this hard for punters who actually want to part with money to do so?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: purpletrousers on June 10, 2019, 08:20:04 PM
i would be surprised if we did sell 30,000 for me the club have missed out on a lot of fans, who may have brought one after the euphoria of winning the play off final

That's a really good point!

Indeed.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Lastfootstamper on June 10, 2019, 08:41:20 PM
Funk knows what's going on. I'm not 100% certain, but I think I recall something from when they went on original Early Bird sale, that this weekend was meant to be Relocation Day.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: john e on June 10, 2019, 08:44:26 PM
Go onto the official site
press tickets
and the play off final still comes up, that was two weeks ago ffs
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: amfy on June 10, 2019, 08:45:12 PM
Relocation day is usually about now which is partially why I thought theyíd have been on sale to existing season ticket holders by now.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Lastfootstamper on June 10, 2019, 08:50:09 PM
My 4 reasons for the delay, in no particular order:
Decision on permanently reinstating the UT;
Issues around a resale partner;
Moving the away fans;
Knocking down the North Stand immediately.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ad@m on June 10, 2019, 08:53:54 PM
There's no decision to make about the UT.  It was always open when we were last in the Prem and we were utterly abject then.

Resale partner?  Worry about that after we've sold some season tickets.

Away fans - again, no decision to make as they're already where they were when we were last in the Prem.

And the North Stand won't be flattened this Summer, there's not enough time.  If we do well this season I can see them announcing plans to rebuild it over Summer 2021.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 10, 2019, 08:58:56 PM
And more often than not it was virtually deserted in the UT, not that I think they won't open it.

It can't be away fans as we've already sold ST to our fans in the Lower North which is the only place we'd move them to. And I don't see us doing that anyway.

Agree with the others.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Lastfootstamper on June 10, 2019, 09:20:32 PM
Whatever the long-term plan is for where we call "home", at some point the North Stand will be addressed, and season ticket holders in there will need to be re-homed, at best temporarily if not for an entire season. Now's arguably the ideal time to do it, why wait until we're attracting bigger crowds to then reduce capacity by 7k?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: The Moose on June 10, 2019, 09:28:51 PM
If the North Stand is demolished at the end of next season, for example, I would think a lower tier of 5-7 thousand seats could be in place for the beginning of the following season. Further seats/tiers could be added as the season continues.
And renamed, of course....
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: SoccerHQ on June 10, 2019, 09:29:00 PM
VP will be rocking in August, silly to close one end which will inevitably affect things.

Hopefully comfortable mid table and stuff will happen next summer so we have nice 50k stadium ready for the champions league in 21/22....
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Lastfootstamper on June 10, 2019, 09:32:17 PM
Not many people in construction on this site, are there?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 10, 2019, 09:39:17 PM
You don't need to be to know that having recently sold thousands of season tickets for the North that we're not suddenly going to go, hold on, I have a cunning plan.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Sexual Ealing on June 10, 2019, 09:45:45 PM
Not many people in construction on this site, are there?

I happen to construct some of the most devastating ad campaigns this side of Farmers Weekly.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Villatillidie1982 on June 10, 2019, 09:51:13 PM
I renewed my middle Trinity season ticket in the early bird period on the understanding that I could relocate back to the Upper Trinity if we were promoted. The tickets section of the website doesn't seem to have been updated since before the play off final.

They don't seem to be in any rush, unless anybody else has seen anything different?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Lastfootstamper on June 10, 2019, 10:09:42 PM
You don't need to be to know that having recently sold thousands of season tickets for the North that we're not suddenly going to go, hold on, I have a cunning plan.


But do we have any actual numbers on how the early bird sales went, especially given the finance debacle? Other than those, we've sold none since. There was enough moaning on here about that sale being too early, bearing in mind that at the time I'd say the concensus was that we probably wouldn't make the play-offs. I'll bet there's fewer than there were STHs in A3/4/5/6 when we got told to bugger off elsewhere.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: ChicagoLion on June 11, 2019, 06:28:11 AM
Not many people in construction on this site, are there?
:D
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: exigo on June 11, 2019, 02:21:19 PM
My 4 reasons for the delay, in no particular order:
Decision on permanently reinstating the UT;
Issues around a resale partner;
Moving the away fans;
Knocking down the North Stand immediately.

The resale function is being handled by the club now. It's already been tested, and the option is already live on the ST page of fan accounts.

You'll get your money back (£season ticket price/19) and the club will resell at full price Ė that profit covers the cost.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: john e on June 12, 2019, 01:21:13 PM
Season tickets are now on Sale

only for Ladies football so far though
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Kimaster1976 on June 12, 2019, 05:24:45 PM
£50 for a ladies season ticket.....i wish the mens was that price.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: OzVilla on June 13, 2019, 07:15:37 AM
Season tickets are now on Sale

only for Ladies football so far though

So that's what they mean by early birds?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: mike on June 13, 2019, 09:24:27 AM
I see Norwich have 22,000 season ticket holders. That's quite impressive for a city of about 250,000 with nothing much around them. How many do the 'real' Birmingham team get at their Million Shattered Dreams stadium?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: brentastonb6 on June 13, 2019, 11:51:24 PM
I see Norwich have 22,000 season ticket holders. That's quite impressive for a city of about 250,000 with nothing much around them. How many do the 'real' Birmingham team get at their Million Shattered Dreams stadium?
Well you get a free kids season ticket with every full paying adult one so whatever itís inflated. Last season they had only sold 5000 before the season started.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Kimaster1976 on June 14, 2019, 11:21:17 AM
Less than 2 months to go before the season starts and no sight or sound of season tickets being back on sale yet, I mean whats the issue? You would think they would want to give people as much time as possible to buy.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Des Little on June 14, 2019, 11:48:19 AM
So we've just won the biggest game in yonks (certainly most profitable), broken our transfer record, everyone is buzzing...but no one can buy a season ticket or a new shirt.  I think this is what Purslow meant when he said we are a year ahead of schedule...still behind our peers with the marketing it seems.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: AV82EC on June 14, 2019, 12:06:38 PM
I am absolutely willing to understand the need for the club to focus first on football issues and execute their plans to ensure Dean has all the tools to compete properly next year. But since when did any business only focus on one thing, the supporters are the lifeblood of this club, theyíve just reconnected with them in a way I havenít seen in many a year and yet I canít buy a couple of season tickets. Iíve got £1k burning a hole in my pocket and itís going to go on a nicer holiday break for me and my partner in September if they donít hurry up. If there was a plan to go up for the football side of the club what about the fans and what we need? Slightly frustrated to be honest.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Kimaster1976 on June 14, 2019, 12:12:28 PM
Yes there would have been alot of impulse buys the day after we went up, and there will be impulse buys for every new signing that strolls through the door, not counting the ones who have saved the money now and ready to purchase.

I just cannot understand whats taking so long what is there to decide? Surely the pricing etc. would have been decided upon months ago depending on division and would not take this long to come up with a decision and get them back online sale.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: andrew08 on June 14, 2019, 12:34:22 PM
I would think one the issues they will be considering is how much moaning they can put up with should they raise prices to PL level. My lower Holte ticket was £500 in March, if it goes upto £700, which is still reasonable for the league weíre in now, people will go mad. I wonder what will be considered acceptable? £550, £600?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Risso on June 14, 2019, 12:44:39 PM
I would think one the issues they will be considering is how much moaning they can put up with should they raise prices to PL level. My lower Holte ticket was £500 in March, if it goes upto £700, which is still reasonable for the league weíre in now, people will go mad. I wonder what will be considered acceptable? £550, £600?

Delaying it this long isn't going to help though is it?  It's absolutely laughable that they're not on sale yet.  Like you, I'm waiting to buy, but am not going to wait around forever.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: spangley1812 on June 14, 2019, 12:55:26 PM
This has just appeared on PRAVDA

Season Ticket Relocation Day will now take place on Saturday 29th June for supporters wishing to switch seats for the 2019/20 campaign.

Relocation Day is only for supporters who have already purchased a Season Ticket for the coming Premier League campaign Ė and want to move to newly-available seats.

Summer Season Ticket prices and on-sale dates will be confirmed soon.

Due to the short timeframe between new summer prices being released and the initial Relocation Day date Ė and wanting to give our Season Ticket Holders the opportunity to make an informed decision on renewing - we have moved it back two weeks from Saturday 15th June.

Our Ticket Office will be open from 9am to 4pm and fans will be able to view seats inside Villa Park from 9am until 3pm.

The deadline for reserved seats is midnight on Friday 28th June.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: cdbullyweefan on June 14, 2019, 01:12:36 PM
So new tickets won't be on sale until July? The same month the new kit finally goes on sale? 🤣
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Des Little on June 14, 2019, 01:26:07 PM
I can't see anything there about honouring seats previously held in Upper Trinity?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Risso on June 14, 2019, 01:29:31 PM
Useless.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Kimaster1976 on June 14, 2019, 01:32:13 PM
So i'm assuming by that any new season tickets wont go on sale until July 1st at the earliest if current holders have got until June 29th to switch seats.

40 days before the season starts! Sorry but thats ridiculous.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: West Derby Villan on June 14, 2019, 01:46:46 PM
So I've just spoke to Anthony at the ticket office and he has confirmed that season tickets will be out shortly and can be renewed upto the 28th June. He suggests that we check on line daily, hope that helps
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Toronto Villa on June 14, 2019, 01:53:42 PM
From the club - relocation day is June 29th. Nothing about renewal which is odd and not very good. Shouldnít renewal come before relocation?

https://twitter.com/avfcsupport/status/1139506817086738432?s=12
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 14, 2019, 01:57:03 PM
Not content with making it impossible for people who want to give the club money to get a replica shirt to do so, we seem to be taking the same approach with season tickets.

Bizarre, I thought we'd left this sort of idiocy behind.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: West Derby Villan on June 14, 2019, 02:02:09 PM
From the club - relocation day is June 29th. Nothing about renewal which is odd and not very good. Shouldnít renewal come before relocation?

https://twitter.com/avfcsupport/status/1139506817086738432?s=12

TV, See my post above
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Toronto Villa on June 14, 2019, 02:13:00 PM
Ah yes. It was interesting on the tweet though that people were asking this and nobody at the club could offer that answer.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: West Derby Villan on June 14, 2019, 02:15:21 PM
Ah yes. It was interesting on the tweet though that people were asking this and nobody at the club could offer that answer.

Ticket office seemed quite confident that STs would be available within he next few days
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Lastfootstamper on June 14, 2019, 02:16:35 PM
I swear down, bro, if I have to try to watch our glorious, all-conquering football from down in the bottom corner of the Holte, I might cry.

Welease Upper Twinity.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: amfy on June 14, 2019, 02:23:19 PM


Due to the short timeframe between new summer prices being released and the initial Relocation Day date Ė and wanting to give our Season Ticket Holders the opportunity to make an informed decision on renewing - we have moved it back two weeks from Saturday 15th June.....



.....The deadline for reserved seats is midnight on Friday 28th June.


This is the bit that refers to people who want to renew that didnít do so in the early bird window - it implies season tickets are going on sale any day now and will only be on sale to existing season ticket holders until relocation day.....it could be A LOT clearer though! I can see on Twitter that the lack of clarity is causing some consternation among those that didnít do the ear,y bird but want to renew and think their seats are up for grabs on relocation day!
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Risso on June 14, 2019, 04:25:41 PM
Not content with making it impossible for people who want to give the club money to get a replica shirt to do so, we seem to be taking the same approach with season tickets.

Bizarre, I thought we'd left this sort of idiocy behind.

Sheffield United sold out of season tickets at the end of April.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: ChicagoLion on June 14, 2019, 06:37:14 PM
Not content with making it impossible for people who want to give the club money to get a replica shirt to do so, we seem to be taking the same approach with season tickets.

Bizarre, I thought we'd left this sort of idiocy behind.
Bizarre, when it seems that the playing side of the club is finally being run professionally, the commercial activity appears an utter shambles.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Villafirst on June 14, 2019, 10:09:29 PM
This time last year I was being bombarded with phone calls and emails asking me if I was going to renew my ST. I haven't had any communication whatsoever since the Wembley win. I've phoned the ticket office several times to renew, but all you get is they haven't decided on ST's being on sale again. They reckon you'll have until the 28th June now to renew - it was supposed to be today! Disappointed with their stance and attitude.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Kimaster1976 on June 14, 2019, 10:27:12 PM
Its completely baffling, for the first time since the summer of 2010 fans are genuinly excited about the season ahead and eager to jump on board.......the clubs reaction to capitalise on this wave of support seems 'meh' at best.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: olaftab on June 14, 2019, 11:10:51 PM
Don't know what the fuss is? Renewed  my season tickets back in April :)
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: ChicagoLion on June 15, 2019, 07:53:25 AM
When you think of all the poxy marketing bollocks they have been coming out with.
So here you have the biggest Marketing opportunity ever, the momentum on the back of the victory at Wembley.
So be ďPart of the ParkĒ

unfortunately Season Tickets are not on sale.

Dim.

Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ads on June 15, 2019, 09:10:36 AM
I get it's annoying, but if you want a season ticket, you'll get one and once you've decided where you want to sit, you'll be able buy it in circa 5 minutes.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Villafirst on June 15, 2019, 09:15:15 AM
I just want to renew my seat that I've had nearly 20 years! I regretfully missed the early bird offer. Nonetheless I should be able to renew. No problem in the previous shit seasons. It's the poor communication that's annoying.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Clampy on June 15, 2019, 09:24:11 AM
A mate of mine was planning on buying one the day after the cup final regardless of what division we were in as he's in a position of being able to afford one for the first time in a while.

The cynic in me thinks they may go up in price a fair bit and they maybe wanted to bring in a few players before announcing them. I may be wrong though and I hope I am.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: AV82EC on June 15, 2019, 09:26:56 AM
I just want to renew my seat that I've had nearly 20 years! I regretfully missed the early bird offer. Nonetheless I should be able to renew. No problem in the previous shit seasons. It's the poor communication that's annoying.

This with bells on. I realise itíll be a quick and easy process itís the total lack of comms and even a timetable so you know what you need to plan for. To be fair itís most unlike the club on the ticketing front, Iíve found itís been one of the real positives over the last 10 years despite everything else.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ads on June 15, 2019, 09:29:16 AM
There definitely must be a reason for the delay. It's very opaque.

We have sold over 20,000 with the early renewals and it would be nice to get cracking on breaking a new record.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Chris Smith on June 15, 2019, 09:50:13 AM
There definitely must be a reason for the delay. It's very opaque.

We have sold over 20,000 with the early renewals and it would be nice to get cracking on breaking a new record.

I suppose partly the need to replace Zebra and revamping the away scheme could be factors but it doesnít explain the absence of any updates.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ads on June 15, 2019, 09:59:14 AM
Probably.

I'm hoping that the away scheme is something along the lines of;

*minimum 15 away attendance
* automatic debit of account
* choose where you sit
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: john e on June 15, 2019, 10:00:37 AM
There definitely must be a reason for the delay. It's very opaque.

We have sold over 20,000 with the early renewals and it would be nice to get cracking on breaking a new record.

Agree thereís definitely a reason for it
no idea what it is but itís most peculiar
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 15, 2019, 10:03:45 AM
There definitely must be a reason for the delay. It's very opaque.

We have sold over 20,000 with the early renewals and it would be nice to get cracking on breaking a new record.

I find it very hard to believe we've sold 20k purely on early renewals

Where did you hear that?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: cdbullyweefan on June 15, 2019, 11:18:23 AM
Probably.

I'm hoping that the away scheme is something along the lines of;

*minimum 15 away attendance
* automatic debit of account
* choose where you sit
.

I doubt you'll get the last one as I imagine we don't always take on all of our allocation until we know for certain we are gonna sell it.

Choice of where you sit among the initial allocation would be fair.

It would probably be too much hassle for the club to have to wait for all away scheme members to contact them before every away game so I think the best thing would just be scheme members get a text or an email saying "you have been allocated this seat, click here to access the Villa website if you wish to change it. You have until day x to do so".
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Gary Penrice on June 15, 2019, 11:37:27 AM
Probably.

I'm hoping that the away scheme is something along the lines of;

*minimum 15 away attendance
* automatic debit of account
* choose where you sit


As long as current members of the away scheme are given priority to renew then I'll be happy!
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ads on June 15, 2019, 06:19:53 PM
There definitely must be a reason for the delay. It's very opaque.

We have sold over 20,000 with the early renewals and it would be nice to get cracking on breaking a new record.

I find it very hard to believe we've sold 20k purely on early renewals

Where did you hear that?

It was bandied about back in April. Somebody told somebody and the like from the ticket office.

We had 23000 season ticket holders last season, which is by and large what we've had for 25 years or more. I think far from unlikely, its highly probable that we've sold such a number already.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: robbo1874 on June 15, 2019, 06:41:50 PM
Probably.

I'm hoping that the away scheme is something along the lines of;

*minimum 15 away attendance
* automatic debit of account
* choose where you sit
.

I doubt you'll get the last one as I imagine we don't always take on all of our allocation until we know for certain we are gonna sell it.

Choice of where you sit among the initial allocation would be fair.

It would probably be too much hassle for the club to have to wait for all away scheme members to contact them before every away game so I think the best thing would just be scheme members get a text or an email saying "you have been allocated this seat, click here to access the Villa website if you wish to change it. You have until day x to do so".
really? Who cares where they sit at away matches? Youíre generally just happy to be there, in my experience anyway.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: cdbullyweefan on June 15, 2019, 07:11:10 PM
Ads.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ads on June 15, 2019, 07:35:28 PM
Exactly.

I like being on the end of a row.

Plus at places like Selhurst Park, I avoid a pillar. I want to be upstairs and towards the back at Stamford Bridge, I want to be in the wee front tier at St James' Park so I can wave in a friendly way to the Scottish folk below. I want to be central at the Molineux. I want to be in the Paddock at Goodison too.

Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: cdbullyweefan on June 15, 2019, 07:37:51 PM
It doesn't generally bother me but it was a pisstake at QPR not being able to see the goal line. Can't think of many Premier League grounds where it would be an issue. I think maybe Everton has some pillar views but I've always had a good view when I've been there. Maybe just lucky.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: robbo1874 on June 15, 2019, 07:50:51 PM
QPR is shit. You canít see the goal from the upper tier.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: SoccerHQ on June 15, 2019, 08:01:04 PM
It doesn't generally bother me but it was a pisstake at QPR not being able to see the goal line. Can't think of many Premier League grounds where it would be an issue. I think maybe Everton has some pillar views but I've always had a good view when I've been there. Maybe just lucky.

Was in the bottom row at Goodison a few years back (not watching Man. United before anyone asks!!!!) and view of most of the pitch was pretty similar to the lower witton at VP, just couldn't see the corner of the pitch right by the Gladys end. Not that we did much attacking that day (3-0 defeat).
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: andrew08 on June 15, 2019, 08:02:55 PM
In the scheme last season you could choose a seat. Even in The Championship they are able to put up the various away sections on line for people to choose a specific seat. The PL probably will show the view as well.

It was a bone of contention amongst my lot because when we went online seconds  after we could for the Albion away leg whole sections were blocked off as sold. We assumed reserved for box holders etc.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ad@m on June 17, 2019, 12:29:56 PM
I know I'm only repeating what others have said but what the actual f*#! is going on?!

I get that we've got gazillionaires in charge and don't need the money but still having zero information about when season tickets are going on sale, 50 days away from the start of the season, is absolutely shambolic!

As a first attempt at a pre-season for the current custodians of the club, it's not a great start.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 17, 2019, 12:39:26 PM
Indeed, what the fuck are they playing at?

I thought these were supposed to be serious people who know how to run a club - if that's the case, why do we have this current utter shambles around people being unable to buy season tickets?

What on earth can be complicating this?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 17, 2019, 12:44:14 PM
Oh and the fact that the season tickets page of the OS is still pimping the early bird renewal window, which closed two months ago, is not massively impressive either.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: bjfoster on June 17, 2019, 01:09:41 PM
As i stated in my original message, you would think they would want to make the most of the feel-good factor around the club straight after the play-off final.

As someone who is looking at being a season ticket holder for the first time, the lack of communication is shocking.

I get that prices and things can chance following the play-off final, but you would think they would have accounted for that scenario?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Lastfootstamper on June 17, 2019, 01:13:03 PM
The longer the wait, the more I think there must be big news. This delay can't be simply because they can't decide on pricing, it just can't.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ads on June 17, 2019, 01:16:19 PM
They're now on sale.

Hands in your pockets. Mine in K3 is now £615, whereas I paid £535in the early bird.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Clampy on June 17, 2019, 01:20:23 PM
Those prices are a bit steep.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: spangley1812 on June 17, 2019, 01:22:41 PM
FROM PRAVDA

Aston Villa is delighted to announce that 2019/20 Season Tickets are now back on sale.

After our promotion to the Premier League last month, supporters will now get another chance to guarantee their spot at Villa Park next term as we prepare to welcome the likes of Manchester City, Liverpool, Chelsea, Manchester United, Arsenal and Tottenham, as well as Midlands rivals, Wolverhampton Wanderers.

Click here to purchase yours now.

The Club have put together a number of affordable ways to watch Premier League football at Villa Park next season.

Adult tickets start at £370 (the equivalent of £19.50 per game) and there is also a renewed focus on families as the Club aim to attract the next generation of claret and blues.

Junior prices start from £70 for Under-14s and £97 for Under-18s, while a family package which includes two adults and two juniors sees the two juniors attend for free!

Continuing the family theme, an extra block in this part of the stadium will become a Family Area to extend family areas across all levels of the Trinity Road Stand.

Following a series of sell-outs last season in the Championship, Trinity Road Upper has been re-opened to meet the increased demand for tickets and supporters who used to have season tickets in the Trinity Upper will have the opportunity to move back to their old seats.

A deadline for that move has been set at Friday 28th June with supporters required to call the ticket office on 0333 323 1874 in order to claim their previous seat.

All other existing season ticket holders who are yet to renew have until midnight on Friday 28th June to claim their seat with relocations commencing from Saturday 29th June.

The Club will be offering a six-month payment plan via V12 which includes an arrangement fee of 5.95% that will be applied to the first payment. A breakdown of how the pricing would work is given below using a Zone 4 Adult ticket as an example: 

Representative example:

If one adult season card purchased at a cash price and amount of credit of £483.00 would be repaid by 1 monthly payment of £109.24 (which includes arrangement fee of 5.95% equal to £28.74), followed by 5 monthly payments of £80.50. The rate of interest is 0% per annum; the total amount payable is £511.74 and the total charge for credit is £28.74. Representative 23.05% APR

A note to supporters that Blocks P1, P8 and M5 have been moved to Price Zone 2 to bring it in line with match tickets being sold in those areas.

Keep an eye out on the Clubís communication channels for details of Hospitality season tickets which will be on sale shortly.
 
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ads on June 17, 2019, 01:25:00 PM
£32 a game, so circa £38 more expensive than following us away.

Nobody likes paying any more money, but oh well.

I would imagine the delay has been over V12 and the arrangement for credit.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 17, 2019, 01:29:58 PM
I think those prices are - in the context of Premier League football - reasonable.

Our most expensive season ticket is £685.

Going on last year's prices in the top flight, only Watford, Burnley, Everton, Cardiff, Wolves and Huddersfield had a cheaper most expensive ST.

If we want Premier League football and signings, we're going to have to pay for it.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: kieron on June 17, 2019, 01:37:02 PM
Only a 6 month finance plan? Do they want people to buy tickets or not?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Dazvillain on June 17, 2019, 01:37:34 PM
Not that Iíve got one these days I would make the following observations, most are marketing positive ;
* price per game was always going to be more pro rata due to less fixtures
* pay more to watch a more premium product... perhaps not so many victories but hoping for plenty !
* new u14 cat good
* 2 kids free with 2 adults in family area... also extended to b7 and a8 so a choice of seat from all levels of trinity good
* note that p1, p8, and m5 all been moved to different price zone...  it sure wether thatís an increase or decrease?
* 6 month payment plan good with low fee useful to a lot Iíd imagine ?
* upper trinity re opened so previous seat holders can relocate which will free up quite a few in other areas . Relocation day may therefore be busier. Hopefully a few more options for us mere mortals that have to cherry pick a few games after relocations but guess match day tickets increase will be hitting new heights too .
* Iíd be intrigued if anyone has stats to see how many of last years ST holders renewed at early bird and from those left, how many can not afford increases for more premium product ?

Iíd be interested to see a table of early bird prices to see how much increases are ?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ads on June 17, 2019, 01:40:40 PM
K3 was £545 (£535 in the Early Bird) and is now £615, so around £4 more per game.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: exigo on June 17, 2019, 01:47:30 PM
I paid £500 for L3, which is now £575; also works about £4 a game more.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Dazvillain on June 17, 2019, 01:47:38 PM
K3 was £545 (£535 in the Early Bird) and is now £615, so around £4 more per game.
Going from 545/23 last year to 615/19 works out just under £9na game more .....wow
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Dazvillain on June 17, 2019, 01:49:20 PM
I paid £500 for L3, which is now £575; also works about £4 a game more.
Following pro rate as above thats now £8.52 a game more
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Dazvillain on June 17, 2019, 01:51:35 PM
I wonder if the club has a great signing lined up today to announce to soften the blow and make things feel even more worthwhile/affordable ?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Jon Crofts on June 17, 2019, 01:58:25 PM
Who checks the stuff that gets published on the website?

Why are new season tickets under a big image advertising season tickets for Aston Villa Ladies?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: AV82EC on June 17, 2019, 02:10:21 PM
So I log in to have a look and there is no availability anywhere in the stadium other than K2. Is this some sort of elaborate fucking wind up. FFS.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: chrisw1 on June 17, 2019, 02:14:30 PM
Looks like Holt upper is virtually sold out
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Kimaster1976 on June 17, 2019, 02:15:11 PM
Is there no installment plan available anymore then?

What does 'area locked' mean? We gotta wait until the relocation stuff has finished in a couple weeks before we can try for there?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: AV82EC on June 17, 2019, 02:17:50 PM
The expression ďI donít really think youíve thought this throughĒ springs to mind when it comes to the clubs approach to this.

Bring back Nicky Keye........
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: kieron on June 17, 2019, 02:19:37 PM
Is there no installment plan available anymore then?

What does 'area locked' mean? We gotta wait until the relocation stuff has finished in a couple weeks before we can try for there?

6 month plan only.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: exigo on June 17, 2019, 02:26:15 PM
It also tells you that all of the away blocks are available, and then (obviously) won't let you put them in your basket.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Randy Gurner on June 17, 2019, 02:31:05 PM
Who checks the stuff that gets published on the website?

Why are new season tickets under a big image advertising season tickets for Aston Villa Ladies?

It's very confusing. Once they've got around to sorting out the team, I hope they address the communication with fans.

The language used on the official social media accounts is mostly amateurish / embarrassing
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: CJ on June 17, 2019, 02:36:52 PM
So I log in to have a look and there is no availability anywhere in the stadium other than K2. Is this some sort of elaborate fucking wind up. FFS.

Maybe waiting for those who want to relocate - may be more options after 29th June?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Villa75 on June 17, 2019, 02:42:04 PM
As a care worker, who now lives 100 miles away, I have been priced out of modern day football. These prices make my eyes water in more ways than one.

I'll save up and try to get to a couple of matches this season, Wolves at home being one if I can get a ticket, but my season ticket days are unfortunately over.

Enjoy the ride this season though. I firmly believe we'll do better than most believe. 👍

Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Lsvilla on June 17, 2019, 02:46:38 PM
So I log in to have a look and there is no availability anywhere in the stadium other than K2. Is this some sort of elaborate fucking wind up. FFS.

Maybe waiting for those who want to relocate - may be more options after 29th June?
Seems to be okay now - google chrome made the difference
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Dazvillain on June 17, 2019, 02:50:53 PM
Bring back General K !
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: AV82EC on June 17, 2019, 02:51:33 PM
Yep logged out and logged back in but availability outside of the Upper Trinity will probably remain limited until after relocation day. For instance I canít believe L3 is sold out as there were usually acres of seats available all last season for non season ticket holders. Looks like theyíre holding back blocks until after relocation day when youíll have the full choice of whatís left.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Des Little on June 17, 2019, 02:53:00 PM
Phones are understandably chocka.  I'll have to get over there to sort it.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ads on June 17, 2019, 03:03:18 PM
I paid £500 for L3, which is now £575; also works about £4 a game more.
Following pro rate as above thats now £8.52 a game more

Its £4 as we've been promoted.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Leicester_Villian on June 17, 2019, 03:12:05 PM
Prices are disgraceful ....there was no reduction when we were relegated
Season ticket holders now have less than two weeks to purchase
Sometimes the club really is poor
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ads on June 17, 2019, 03:14:47 PM
£32 for top flight football isnt disgraceful. I paid £30 to take my boy to the Lego Movie II, £57 to go to a gig at the Echo the other week.

We're cheaper than loads. If you missed out on the Early Bird, then you're paying £4 more per game. For that you get officials who know when the ball is out of play and Jack not to get lumped every 5 minutes.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 17, 2019, 03:22:53 PM
I paid £500 for L3, which is now £575; also works about £4 a game more.
Following pro rate as above thats now £8.52 a game more

Its £4 as we've been promoted.

I assume he means £500 for 23 games v £575 for 19.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ads on June 17, 2019, 03:24:34 PM
I paid £500 for L3, which is now £575; also works about £4 a game more.
Following pro rate as above thats now £8.52 a game more

Its £4 as we've been promoted.

I assume he means £500 for 23 games v £575 for 19.

In that case there was always a de facto price increase.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: wittonwarrior on June 17, 2019, 04:08:00 PM
First of all my position - I renewed early bird so should really have stayed out of this debate.

it's no surprise that the Club have landed this increase.  A story of supply and demand with a lot of people wanting to return back regularly.  Believe me the Championship was good, better than the premiership but only it wasn't the premiership.

I think the club could have done more to help appease the current season ticket holders who for one reason or another didn't early bird.  Not everyone has ready case and the finance package was only installed late on in the early bird window (although to be fair was there early on as well).

As for the new season ticket holders one word tough.  I'm not crying  over you like the fans  who struggled to get play off final  tickets.  I do understand however that not everyone would follow the Villa down a  coal mine, across a field of burning grass or through dogs muck. 

As for the need to increase dramatically the prices probably no need given the TV revenue and other outside sponsorship. 

One thing is for sure the away scheme is not going to be a freebe.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: amfy on June 17, 2019, 04:43:49 PM
Thereís no even vague comparison with a match by match price. Maybe this is deliberate because various offers during the season often lead to season ticket holders complaining that they havenít saved what they expected to.

Nonetheless - Now Iíve moved up north am looking at getting to probably 11 or 12 home games which works out at about £40 a game. This feels too much as I canít imagine the game by game price being that much where I sit - but I donít have anything to go on to help me know whether a season ticket could be anything near decent value for me. If it was within a few ££s - e.g. over £35/game - I might go for it for the convenience of having a season ticket (& keeping my seat which I love) & someone nearer home could always go to the games I canít make which would balance the cost out even more.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Lastfootstamper on June 17, 2019, 05:00:54 PM
Did anyone on here renew a Zone 1 on early bird? If you did, how much was it, if you don't mind me asking? I can't seem to find a price list from then.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on June 17, 2019, 05:01:53 PM
Couple of questions if anyone has any answers please.
Am I correct in thinking that as a ssn tkt holder, if I can't attend a game I can sell the ticket for that game back to the club, which they can sell on, at match day ticket prices?
Does anyone know when memberships eg cub/claret etc become available to purchase?
Thanks in anticipation of any replies
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Risso on June 17, 2019, 05:12:36 PM
Couple of questions if anyone has any answers please.
Am I correct in thinking that as a ssn tkt holder, if I can't attend a game I can sell the ticket for that game back to the club, which they can sell on, at match day ticket prices?
Does anyone know when memberships eg cub/claret etc become available to purchase?
Thanks in anticipation of any replies


I think you can buy Claret Membership now, and still could, even in the run up to the Play off Final.  They just stopped giving preferential ticket sales to members who joined after a certain cut off date.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: saunders_heroes on June 17, 2019, 05:22:14 PM
Blimey Iím glad I renewed before the season ended. £75 increase, a bit steep!
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: London Villan on June 17, 2019, 05:27:21 PM
It paid to have faith!
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: exigo on June 17, 2019, 05:30:04 PM
Thereís no even vague comparison with a match by match price. Maybe this is deliberate because various offers during the season often lead to season ticket holders complaining that they havenít saved what they expected to.

Nonetheless - Now Iíve moved up north am looking at getting to probably 11 or 12 home games which works out at about £40 a game. This feels too much as I canít imagine the game by game price being that much where I sit - but I donít have anything to go on to help me know whether a season ticket could be anything near decent value for me. If it was within a few ££s - e.g. over £35/game - I might go for it for the convenience of having a season ticket (& keeping my seat which I love) & someone nearer home could always go to the games I canít make which would balance the cost out even more.

Should be easier next year, as the seat resale function will be back.
I'd been to 16 homes for the last two seasons, and worked out that a season ticket would be cheaper if I managed to re-sell 4 of the other 7 Championship games. Not sure of the maths now it's a 19 game season, but I'd imagine it will be much easier to re-sell even the likes of Brightonin the Prem compared to Luton in the Championship.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: exigo on June 17, 2019, 05:32:17 PM
Did anyone on here renew a Zone 1 on early bird? If you did, how much was it, if you don't mind me asking? I can't seem to find a price list from then.

Clicky for all zones (https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2019/02/15/season-tickets-2019-20-launch)
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: exigo on June 17, 2019, 05:35:00 PM
Couple of questions if anyone has any answers please.
Am I correct in thinking that as a ssn tkt holder, if I can't attend a game I can sell the ticket for that game back to the club, which they can sell on, at match day ticket prices?
Does anyone know when memberships eg cub/claret etc become available to purchase?
Thanks in anticipation of any replies


Resale is happening this season, run by the club. They told Lions Club chairmen back at the start of March that it had been tested and would be deployed. That was what tipped me over the edge of committing to a season ticket.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on June 17, 2019, 06:11:25 PM
Exigo-cheers!
Risso-I tried buying memberships online after ur post but it wouldn't allow me to proceed to purchase. Thanks anyway.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Villafirst on June 17, 2019, 06:25:13 PM
I actually had a call from the club today informing me that ST's are back on sale - I knew anyway from the website. I renewed there and then. The guy who called me said they sold 1,000 ST's inside 3 hours at the peak today. He said the record number sold was 28,000 in the 07/08 season under MON. I think we averaged over 40,000 crowds that season. There's a chance the ST record may go...
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: nodge on June 17, 2019, 06:43:03 PM
The family ones look good value in the cheaper areas but as far as I can see theyíre all sold out.  I donít mean the Family areas, my sonís 15 and he thinks heís far too grown up for that.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Lastfootstamper on June 17, 2019, 06:56:36 PM
Did anyone on here renew a Zone 1 on early bird? If you did, how much was it, if you don't mind me asking? I can't seem to find a price list from then.

Clicky for all zones (https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2019/02/15/season-tickets-2019-20-launch)


Cheers, mate! Very helpful. I seem to recall paying something in the order of £640, maybe more, for the last full season in the UT, so £595 now doesn't seem too bad for what will hopefully be something that's actually entertaining this time.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: olaftab on June 17, 2019, 07:11:46 PM
All in all very reasonable prices compared to most of the Clubs in the Premier League.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: SJMEx on June 17, 2019, 07:18:31 PM
Anyone had problems with the website?

When I click "Pay" all I get is a rotating circle and a "Please Wait" message, which stays there no matter how long I wait (up to 39 minutes in some cases). I have tried a range of devices and browsers but all give the same problem.

Any ideas to get round the problem? Phoning the Ticket Office seems impossible at the moment, so I am getting a bit desperate.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Villa75 on June 17, 2019, 08:29:17 PM
Surely the club buy back only works it the club manage to sell your seat?

Or have they guaranteed they'll give you the money even if it's not resold?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ads on June 17, 2019, 08:43:36 PM
I actually had a call from the club today informing me that ST's are back on sale - I knew anyway from the website. I renewed there and then. The guy who called me said they sold 1,000 ST's inside 3 hours at the peak today. He said the record number sold was 28,000 in the 07/08 season under MON. I think we averaged over 40,000 crowds that season. There's a chance the ST record may go...

Sounds very promising
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: AV82EC on June 17, 2019, 08:46:18 PM
Surely the club buy back only works it the club manage to sell your seat?

Or have they guaranteed they'll give you the money even if it's not resold?
Yep the way I read it you only get refunded if they sell the ticket on.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Toronto Villa on June 17, 2019, 10:55:29 PM
Some suggestions that tickets have sold really well and we could have 30k+ for the first time ever.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: cdbullyweefan on June 17, 2019, 11:26:08 PM
How could they possibly know if they've literally been on sale to new people for a day?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: richtheholtender on June 17, 2019, 11:37:29 PM
Just having ďplease waitĒ and a spinning circle
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 17, 2019, 11:48:32 PM
How could they possibly know if they've literally been on sale to new people for a day?

I saw someone posted something along those lines on twitter.

He had looked at the available seats figures on the stadium planner, but not taken into account that will currently show as unavailable all seats which were last year ST holders.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: BC54 VFC on June 18, 2019, 12:59:35 AM
First of all my position - I renewed early bird so should really have stayed out of this debate.

it's no surprise that the Club have landed this increase.  A story of supply and demand with a lot of people wanting to return back regularly.  Believe me the Championship was good, better than the premiership but only it wasn't the premiership.

I think the club could have done more to help appease the current season ticket holders who for one reason or another didn't early bird.  Not everyone has ready case and the finance package was only installed late on in the early bird window (although to be fair was there early on as well).

As for the new season ticket holders one word tough.  I'm not crying  over you like the fans  who struggled to get play off final  tickets.  I do understand however that not everyone would follow the Villa down a  coal mine, across a field of burning grass or through dogs muck. 

As for the need to increase dramatically the prices probably no need given the TV revenue and other outside sponsorship. 

One thing is for sure the away scheme is not going to be a freebe.
Agree with all of this.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ads on June 18, 2019, 08:55:07 AM
How could they possibly know if they've literally been on sale to new people for a day?

People using the online calculator and adding two plus two and getting 35,000.

They are selling very well though.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Arsey on June 18, 2019, 12:44:53 PM
I must be missing something obvious but wouldnít it make sense to have the relocation day prior to season tickets going on general release to new buyers?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: levico on June 18, 2019, 02:11:33 PM
Help!!!

Trying to renew mine over the phone. I get music for about 2 minutes and then Iím cut off.

Anybody know if I can renew in person at the ticket office?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Kimaster1976 on June 18, 2019, 02:15:44 PM
I must be missing something obvious but wouldnít it make sense to have the relocation day prior to season tickets going on general release to new buyers?

Yes I must admit I find that totally baffling and confusing also.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: chrisw1 on June 18, 2019, 02:19:47 PM
Help!!!

Trying to renew mine over the phone. I get music for about 2 minutes and then Iím cut off.

Anybody know if I can renew in person at the ticket office?
Why don't you do it online?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ads on June 18, 2019, 02:21:35 PM
Help!!!

Trying to renew mine over the phone. I get music for about 2 minutes and then Iím cut off.

Anybody know if I can renew in person at the ticket office?

I wouldn't bother, we will lose all 19 home games.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: levico on June 18, 2019, 02:21:39 PM
Help!!!

Trying to renew mine over the phone. I get music for about 2 minutes and then Iím cut off.

Anybody know if I can renew in person at the ticket office?
Why don't you do it online?

Trying that too but the renewal function doesnít seem to be working.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: olaftab on June 18, 2019, 02:25:42 PM
Help!!!

Trying to renew mine over the phone. I get music for about 2 minutes and then Iím cut off.

Anybody know if I can renew in person at the ticket office?
Yes as always. I did.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: QuintonVilla on June 18, 2019, 02:51:26 PM
We can't sell 35k season tickets can we? Aren't we limited to selling 29k as you should have 10k home tickets available for sale plus 3k away tickets?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: PeterWithe on June 18, 2019, 03:43:57 PM
Why would we limit the amount of ST we can sell. Is it a league rule?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: QuintonVilla on June 18, 2019, 04:14:23 PM
Why would we limit the amount of ST we can sell. Is it a league rule?
I'm sure I read it unless I've imagined it. Man Utd for instance have 53k season ticket holders and a massive waiting list. They could easily sell the ground out to 73k season ticket holders but have to cap the number I'm sure.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Kingthing on June 18, 2019, 05:06:46 PM
Couple of questions if anyone has any answers please.
Am I correct in thinking that as a ssn tkt holder, if I can't attend a game I can sell the ticket for that game back to the club, which they can sell on, at match day ticket prices?
Does anyone know when memberships eg cub/claret etc become available to purchase?
Thanks in anticipation of any replies


I think you can buy Claret Membership now, and still could, even in the run up to the Play off Final.  They just stopped giving preferential ticket sales to members who joined after a certain cut off date.

When you go on the membership page everything relates to last season, looks like you can purchase but might be a bit of a risk.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: KRS on June 18, 2019, 06:36:23 PM
Could any one please confirm that the Holte End only has 500 season tickets left please (source from someone on Twitter). From what I was told, this would mean virtually no tickets available on a game to game basis. Is this true or complete bolx?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 18, 2019, 06:44:50 PM
Why would we limit the amount of ST we can sell. Is it a league rule?
I'm sure I read it unless I've imagined it. Man Utd for instance have 53k season ticket holders and a massive waiting list. They could easily sell the ground out to 73k season ticket holders but have to cap the number I'm sure.

They can sell as many as they want.

They probably set a limit themselves as, if they know they can get 76k every week, having 20k match ticket buyers means fewer people taking the financial saving of a ST.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ads on June 18, 2019, 06:45:14 PM
The season ticket cap, looking at other clubs, appears to be 70% to 75%.

If there are only 500 season tickets left in the Holte, then on a 70% cap, this would leave 4050 available per game.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: chrisw1 on June 18, 2019, 07:02:15 PM
Couple of questions if anyone has any answers please.
Am I correct in thinking that as a ssn tkt holder, if I can't attend a game I can sell the ticket for that game back to the club, which they can sell on, at match day ticket prices?
Does anyone know when memberships eg cub/claret etc become available to purchase?
Thanks in anticipation of any replies


I think you can buy Claret Membership now, and still could, even in the run up to the Play off Final.  They just stopped giving preferential ticket sales to members who joined after a certain cut off date.

When you go on the membership page everything relates to last season, looks like you can purchase but might be a bit of a risk.
I don't know what browser you're using but there's nowhere to click buy memberships under chrome or firefox, nor was there in the run up to the play-offs?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Davkaus on June 18, 2019, 07:42:34 PM

Even taking away the potential extra cash (it's certainly not a sure thing, some seasons it's definitely been cheaper to be a pay per game fan), it'd be a really bad long-term move to fill the stadium with ST holders.

If casual fans can never get tickets, they're not going to develop much of a bond with the club, and they'll go elsewhere. We won't build the next generation of ST holders if they can never go to games.

Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Dazvillain on June 18, 2019, 07:48:27 PM
Could any one please confirm that the Holte End only has 500 season tickets left please (source from someone on Twitter). From what I was told, this would mean virtually no tickets available on a game to game basis. Is this true or complete bolx?

Only showing 500 left as % kept back in a block by block basis for match day sale plus there was still be loads of last seasons ST holders still on hold until window closed . These then put on sale after relocation day. Yes itís right that % are kept for match day. Donít think weve ever reached max ST level though but that would be amazing support .... and thatís coming from someone who can only cherry pick a few games a year which is going to make life very difficult this coming season !!
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ads on June 18, 2019, 07:51:14 PM
That's why Man United get such low crowds, by having more season ticket holders than anybody else.

Or...

You reduce elasticity of supply per game, placing additional value on the season ticket to guarantee attendance. You therefore drive up demand for match by match tickets, which  sell quicker as a consequence. The end result is you increase supply, not by reducing season tickets, but by building a bigger ground.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: charleeco7 on June 18, 2019, 08:11:06 PM
If I were to buy a season ticket now. Could I change it on relocation day for another area that became available should I wish to do so?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: frank black on June 18, 2019, 08:44:41 PM
Capped at 30k

https://bit.ly/2XX0nOG
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: kieron on June 18, 2019, 08:47:15 PM
https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2019/06/18/season-tickets-capped-after-records

Quote
Season Tickets for Aston Villa's 2019/20 Premier League campaign are set to break all records as they close in on the incredible 30,000 mark.

It is the first time in the modern era that so many Villa supporters have bought a season card guaranteeing them access to all league games in the campaign.

Since being available again on Monday, sales have soared in anticipation of our return to the top flight with more than 3,000 snapped up within the first 24-hour period.

Added to those who had already renewed Ė including more than 20,000 ĎEarly Birdí Season Ticket holders Ė the previous record of 27,709 from 2008/09 season is set to be surpassed, resulting in the decision to limit the total available to 30,000.

Chief Commercial Officer Nicola Ibbetson said: ďThe demand for Season Tickets has been remarkable and we thank everybody for their incredible support. We started with a record-breaking ĎEarly Birdí period of sale and the momentum has continued. This has come after an exceptional surge in matchday attendances at Villa Park last season.

ďWe have decided to cap the total number of Season Tickets for 2019/20 season at 30,000. It will give supporters who are unable to buy a Season Ticket for whatever reason, be it economic or logistical, an opportunity to buy matchday tickets for our league games at Villa Park.

ďIt will enable close to 8,000 matchday tickets to be sold to Villa fans for each home game of what promises to be a really exciting season.Ē

The deadline for the small number of existing Season Ticket holders who have not renewed for the new campaign to do so is midnight on Friday 28th June.

Relocation day on Saturday 29th June will be for seat relocation only. No new sales will take place.

The club has created a waiting list for new and returning supporters who did not have a Season Ticket last season.

Supporters can now register their interest by entering their details on the waiting list, which will then be categorised by order of registration on a first-come, first-served basis and subject to availability.

Those on the list will then be notified as new Season Tickets become available.

You can register by calling 0333 323 1874 or clicking here.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: spangley1812 on June 18, 2019, 08:48:45 PM
If I were to buy a season ticket now. Could I change it on relocation day for another area that became available should I wish to do so?

Yes mate...........
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ads on June 18, 2019, 09:04:26 PM
See, told you we'd sold 20k in ze Early Bird Paulie. *nods sagely*

Also caps the capacity at 41ish thousand.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: SoccerHQ on June 18, 2019, 09:11:13 PM
Are cup games included this season with the price rise?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: AV82EC on June 18, 2019, 09:11:52 PM
I was going to leave it for a few more days but tried again earlier and decided to go Upper Trinity. Thank god for that.

30,000 though, unprecedented. Itís funny to think back when I  first started going down in 90/91 we averaged just over 20k. 🤷🏼‍♂️
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: QuintonVilla on June 18, 2019, 09:20:59 PM
Since Villa said there will be a waiting list tonight, 1500 people have joined it already. We're back baby.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ads on June 18, 2019, 09:34:19 PM
Since Villa said there will be a waiting list tonight, 1500 people have joined it already. We're back baby.

For years it didn't matter so much if you had a season ticket. It appears that is over now. Does mean prices will keep rising though. Better news, I'll get to look at something better in a few years than the North Stand, with it's stupid upper tier that is bigger than the lower tier and narrower. Aaaaahh!
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: richtheholtender on June 18, 2019, 09:35:26 PM
I made the decision to leave work early today and go to ticket office. I believe I got either the last ticket in the holte end lower or the last ticket in L2. Didnít quite catch which bit the guy said it was the last one. £485 I fell extremely lucky.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Behind Bluenose Lines on June 18, 2019, 09:47:17 PM
Since Villa said there will be a waiting list tonight, 1500 people have joined it already. We're back baby.

For years it didn't matter so much if you had a season ticket. It appears that is over now. Does mean prices will keep rising though. Better news, I'll get to look at something better in a few years than the North Stand, with it's stupid upper tier that is bigger than the lower tier and narrower. Aaaaahh!
I imagine if we stay up next year, the owners will get the rebuilding plans started and possibly fill the stadium corners in. Didn't someone say the maximum capacity could be 50,000 once?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: amfy on June 18, 2019, 09:48:23 PM
The fan allocations for last years FA Cup final were 28,000 for each club.

We are now into the territory of a season ticket being no guarantee of a Cup Final Ticket, & without one you are almost certainly not going.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: john e on June 18, 2019, 09:48:28 PM
Since Villa said there will be a waiting list tonight, 1500 people have joined it already. We're back baby.

For years it didn't matter so much if you had a season ticket. It appears that is over now. Does mean prices will keep rising though. Better news, I'll get to look at something better in a few years than the North Stand, with it's stupid upper tier that is bigger than the lower tier and narrower. Aaaaahh!

for what its worth i went on the stadium tour today with my kids and the Lady said they were doing extensive refurbishment internally to the North stand, and had plans to update the entrance frontage also

she said it didn't look like there were any short term plans to knock it down and start again any time soon because of the money being spent on it at the moment
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Lastfootstamper on June 18, 2019, 09:52:14 PM
This'll impact on the membership schemes, I assume. My brother tried to get his kid a ST late on, after being a Cub last year, but he's had to go on the waiting list.

Damn you, Dean Smith, with your entertaining football!
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: QuintonVilla on June 18, 2019, 09:54:22 PM
Since Villa said there will be a waiting list tonight, 1500 people have joined it already. We're back baby.

For years it didn't matter so much if you had a season ticket. It appears that is over now. Does mean prices will keep rising though. Better news, I'll get to look at something better in a few years than the North Stand, with it's stupid upper tier that is bigger than the lower tier and narrower. Aaaaahh!
This is how ground expansion starts. People start to realise they need a season ticket, rather than knowing there are 18k+ tickets available each matchday. With only 8k tickets available for our fans next season we should sell out every home game.

Mad to think we only got 27k-28k for some weeknight games in the Prem in the dark days and now we're selling more season tickets than that.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: john e on June 18, 2019, 09:59:20 PM
i've been saying for years and fucking years all we needed was a manager with some balls to play football in a structured entertaining way and we would reap the benefits

all this turgid football by stealth to get us over the line nonsense, short term pain long term gain guff under Bruce was an absolute load of bollocks

think i'm the happiest i've been since Brian for a short time and Big Ron a million years ago
maybe even happier because it seems we have the whole top end package this time
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: bjfoster on June 18, 2019, 10:10:02 PM
Managed to get mine yesterday as a first time season ticket holder.

Already feeling the pressure to keep it for years to come knowing now thereís going to be a big waiting list!
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: mike on June 18, 2019, 10:12:29 PM
I used to feel a bit embarrassed when I lived in the north west and all the Man U/Liverpool fans couldn't get tickets then there would always be empty seats at Villa Park when we were on TV. This is fantastic, even if it limits my chances of getting a ticket. If we can just stay up this year, the future really is bright.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: olaftab on June 18, 2019, 10:46:29 PM
See, told you we'd sold 20k in ze Early Bird Paulie. *nods sagely*

Also caps the capacity at 41ish thousand.
I think capacity will hit 42.5ish K if we sell all corporate availability. (38 home 3 away 1.5 corporate).
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: TonyD on June 18, 2019, 10:50:28 PM
We havenít sold 30k yet!
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: LukeJames on June 18, 2019, 10:51:18 PM
Since Villa said there will be a waiting list tonight, 1500 people have joined it already. We're back baby.

Probably all the Blues fans jumping ship.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: QuintonVilla on June 18, 2019, 10:58:22 PM
What's going on with R1 in the North Stand? Seems to be closed off, have I missed something? Sure that's only a couple of hundred seats though and won't affect the capacity too much.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on June 18, 2019, 11:10:45 PM
Donít forget though wolves are bigger than yow.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Kimaster1976 on June 19, 2019, 05:02:28 AM
So if we havent sold 30k yet whats the waiting list for, shouldnt the waiting list begin once all available season tickets are sold?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Lastfootstamper on June 19, 2019, 05:30:24 AM
So if we havent sold 30k yet whats the waiting list for, shouldnt the waiting list begin once all available season tickets are sold?


People have still got until the end of next week to renew. The first people on the waiting list will qualify for any spares as soon as that deadline passes.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: chrisw1 on June 19, 2019, 08:11:08 AM
It will be interesting to see how much demand there is next season once the reality of PL football has kicked back in.  Anything lower than a top half finish and I suspect it will fall back a little and those on the waiting list will get a ticket if they still want one.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: The Edge on June 19, 2019, 09:27:58 AM
It will be interesting to see how much demand there is next season once the reality of PL football has kicked back in.  Anything lower than a top half finish and I suspect it will fall back a little and those on the waiting list will get a ticket if they still want one.
OR we could be absolutely flying next season playing free flowing attacking football and they'll have to announce plans to extend the stadium.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: amfy on June 19, 2019, 11:01:11 AM
I wasnít going to renew, but now it seems to be the worst possible moment to give up a season ticket, so I might.

My thoughts having moved away were that Iíd see how many games I went to from up here and whether it became a chore. If I ended up happily going to enough games to justify a season ticket I would  get one again next season.

The other factor was that during all of our Wembley trips of recent years you havenít needed a season ticket to get there.

Everything has changed!

I now think that Iím more likely to keep the ST for now & see how support from up here works, & only give my ST up if I feel like itís not working out.

The good thing is that these sales have created enough demand for me to shift my season ticket seat on the games I canít/ donít want to go.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: cdbullyweefan on June 19, 2019, 11:09:32 AM
Go on, renew. And get that troublemaker Jane to renew n'all. 😊
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: olaftab on June 19, 2019, 11:24:25 AM
It will be interesting to see how much demand there is next season once the reality of PL football has kicked back in.  Anything lower than a top half finish and I suspect it will fall back a little and those on the waiting list will get a ticket if they still want one.
OR we could be absolutely flying next season playing free flowing attacking football and they'll have to announce plans to extend the stadium.
Yes that hopefully will happen or once we get used to mid table mediocrity  normal conditioning  means a fall back.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: MalcolmP on June 19, 2019, 11:41:01 AM
I was going to leave it for a few more days but tried again earlier and decided to go Upper Trinity. Thank god for that.

30,000 though, unprecedented. It’s funny to think back when I  first started going down in 90/91 we averaged just over 20k. 🤷🏼‍♂️
We only averaged 33k in 80/81 when we were League Champions 
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 19, 2019, 11:50:31 AM
That 33k was the 4th highest. Liverpool averaged 32k when winning the league a couple of years later. The drop in attendances that lead to the nadir of 1986 had already started by 80/81.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: bill on June 19, 2019, 12:37:02 PM
80-81 was right in the middle of Thatchers mass unemployment experiment. Crowds were low everywhere
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: lukey27 on June 19, 2019, 12:38:29 PM
I've just received an email regarding registering interest and putting yourself on a waiting list. Got a feeling they've probably sold 26k - 27k and the waiting list is the guaranteed way of making sure they sell 30k. They certainly say nowhere they've sold 30k or they're sold out.

Certainly I hope that's the case!
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on June 19, 2019, 12:43:36 PM
I've just received an email regarding registering interest and putting yourself on a waiting list. Got a feeling they've probably sold 26k - 27k and the waiting list is the guaranteed way of making sure they sell 30k. They certainly say nowhere they've sold 30k or they're sold out.

Certainly I hope that's the case!

I received that mail too. It says there are 3894 seats available, whatever that means
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: john e on June 19, 2019, 01:01:29 PM
Does anyone know if you have a under age season ticket if you can upgrade it to an adult one for one off games ?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: shipscat on June 19, 2019, 01:01:55 PM
Anyone know what tends to happen on relocation day?

My sons a ST holder in the Lower North, in R1, with a friend who hardly went in the end last season due to some issues he's got.His other friend (M),  is in the Holte.

M and my son are both off to Notts Uni and they want to renew to sit together in Lower North as money's tight.Obviously, we realize that M is going to have to renew his Holte ticket firstly, but to compound it, his friend I suspect will now renew knowing that he'd struggle to get another ST at a later point...but my son doesn't want to sit together without M as these issues could arise next year, and he found it hard to sit on his own every game.

My son would love them all 3 of them to have a ST together in the Lower North, do we think it's feasible or likely, come relocation day?If so, any ideas as to the best way to achieve it on relocation day....
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Dazvillain on June 19, 2019, 01:50:31 PM
Managed to get mine yesterday as a first time season ticket holder.

Already feeling the pressure to keep it for years to come knowing now thereís going to be a big waiting list!
I thought it was only last years ST holders that could purchase at the moment until relocation day ?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Jon Crofts on June 19, 2019, 02:04:16 PM
This made me smile.

Birmingham City - I want a refund on my season ticket for sacking Gary Monk.

West Olbiyun - We canít pay our debts, we are in the shit.

Aston Villa - Weíve had to stop people buying season tickets, sorry everyone.

Karma.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Virgil Caine on June 19, 2019, 02:05:04 PM
Does anyone know if you have a under age season ticket if you can upgrade it to an adult one for one off games ?

Yes you can- I have done this several times in the last couple of seasons whilst my son has been at Uni. Only downside is that you cannot do it online but a telephone call to the ticket office will get it sorted with a e-ticket for an adult being sent to your email address. For me the uplift is normally around the £20-£25 mark.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: darren woolley on June 19, 2019, 02:09:30 PM
Are they doing the Claret Membership Schemes again  this season when are they on sale does anyone now.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Lastfootstamper on June 19, 2019, 02:11:48 PM
Anyone know what tends to happen on relocation day?

My sons a ST holder in the Lower North, in R1, with a friend who hardly went in the end last season due to some issues he's got.His other friend (M),  is in the Holte.

M and my son are both off to Notts Uni and they want to renew to sit together in Lower North as money's tight.Obviously, we realize that M is going to have to renew his Holte ticket firstly, but to compound it, his friend I suspect will now renew knowing that he'd struggle to get another ST at a later point...but my son doesn't want to sit together without M as these issues could arise next year, and he found it hard to sit on his own every game.

My son would love them all 3 of them to have a ST together in the Lower North, do we think it's feasible or likely, come relocation day?If so, any ideas as to the best way to achieve it on relocation day....


Get to the ticket office early. The earlier the better, because unless you're prepared to camp from Friday night, there will be a queue in front of you. It's not chaotic, but being 50 yards back means you won't stop panicking that every one in front of you is after your ideal seats. And if the people you want to move aren't present with you, make sure they've either sent an email to the club or given you something in writing that grants you permission to relocate their seat on their behalf.

Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: john e on June 19, 2019, 02:18:55 PM
Does anyone know if you have a under age season ticket if you can upgrade it to an adult one for one off games ?

Yes you can- I have done this several times in the last couple of seasons whilst my son has been at Uni. Only downside is that you cannot do it online but a telephone call to the ticket office will get it sorted with a e-ticket for an adult being sent to your email address. For me the uplift is normally around the £20-£25 mark.


that's great thanks for that

i thought i'd read you could but didn't know the procedure

only problem being that my calls get cut off after anything up to 10-15 minutes so i cant actually talk to anyone there


Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Des Little on June 19, 2019, 02:29:13 PM
Does anyone have a seating plan (with rows/seats obvs) that I can look at?  I'm looking for Upper Trinity, so gives me an idea of how the plan looks before I attempt the madness that is relocation day.  Of course I know that STs are yet to confirm/renew, but I could do with an idea.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ads on June 19, 2019, 03:01:42 PM
We're applying to the BCC to knock down the ticket office. Intention is for new offices/hotel/museum, subject to a further application, to replace existing structures.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: London Villan on June 19, 2019, 03:11:53 PM
Does anyone know if you have a under age season ticket if you can upgrade it to an adult one for one off games ?

Yes you can, up to 5 times this season.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Border villan on June 19, 2019, 03:15:33 PM
We're applying to the BCC to knock down the ticket office. Intention is for new offices/hotel/museum, subject to a further application, to replace existing structures.
Using a contractor from Green Lane. Behind enemy lines.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: bjfoster on June 19, 2019, 03:30:17 PM
Managed to get mine yesterday as a first time season ticket holder.

Already feeling the pressure to keep it for years to come knowing now thereís going to be a big waiting list!
I thought it was only last years ST holders that could purchase at the moment until relocation day ?

They were on General Sale on Monday then capped last night. I got in about half an hour after they went sale and there were obviously going like hot cakes.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: FailsworthVillan on June 19, 2019, 03:49:28 PM
Doesnít capping sales at 30k also virtually guarantee every ST holder a ticket for Wembley should we reach a cup final.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: QuintonVilla on June 19, 2019, 03:56:49 PM
Doesnít capping sales at 30k also virtually guarantee every ST holder a ticket for Wembley should we reach a cup final.
You only get 25k tickets in the FA Cup Final.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Dazvillain on June 19, 2019, 04:08:58 PM
Why the waiting list then ? Is it to still give priority to last years ST holders until 29th without breaking 30k ?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Lastfootstamper on June 19, 2019, 04:50:31 PM
Why the waiting list then ? Is it to still give priority to last years ST holders until 29th without breaking 30k ?


I'd guess so. If all the outstanding ST holders renew in time, there'll be 30,000 by saturday week. For any that don't, it'll be one out, one in from the waiting list.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: mike on June 19, 2019, 05:33:26 PM
Are they doing the Claret Membership Schemes again  this season when are they on sale does anyone now.


I rang up the club and they said they havenít made their minds up yet.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: West Derby Villan on June 19, 2019, 05:41:35 PM
Can anyone tell me how much the total cost is for a "zone 2" seat (initially £615) if the finance package is opted for?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: bjfoster on June 19, 2019, 07:05:53 PM
Can anyone tell me how much the total cost is for a "zone 2" seat (initially £615) if the finance package is opted for?

Think it was about £650. I found it cheaper to put it on a 0% credit card and pay it off that way rather than finance. Depending on your personal circumstances, obviously.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: West Derby Villan on June 19, 2019, 07:27:11 PM
Can anyone tell me how much the total cost is for a "zone 2" seat (initially £615) if the finance package is opted for?

Think it was about £650. I found it cheaper to put it on a 0% credit card and pay it off that way rather than finance. Depending on your personal circumstances, obviously.

Cheers mate
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: placeforparks on June 20, 2019, 02:23:02 PM
Are they doing the Claret Membership Schemes again  this season when are they on sale does anyone now.


I rang up the club and they said they havenít made their minds up yet.

i know we are in unchartered territory with a season ticket cap, but every other football club where demand exceeds supply has a tiered membership system to manage sales for non-season ticket holders.

the club needs to sort itself out. and quickly.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Lastfootstamper on June 20, 2019, 05:07:34 PM
Are they doing the Claret Membership Schemes again  this season when are they on sale does anyone now.


I rang up the club and they said they havenít made their minds up yet.

i know we are in unchartered territory with a season ticket cap, but every other football club where demand exceeds supply has a tiered membership system to manage sales for non-season ticket holders.

the club needs to sort itself out. and quickly.


Damned if they do, damned if they don't. Reinstate the memberships, and unless they cap those too at pretty low levels, we'll have no "casual" support whatsoever, which can't be good for our long-term health. They've got 8k to play with.

All of a sudden, we need a bigger ground.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: mike on June 20, 2019, 06:39:53 PM
I think paying £20 a year to have access to buy the odd ticket is pretty casual.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: saunders_heroes on June 20, 2019, 07:19:08 PM
I think paying £20 a year to have access to buy the odd ticket is pretty casual.

Are they doing the away season ticket thing next season?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ads on June 20, 2019, 07:26:56 PM
They better.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: cdbullyweefan on June 20, 2019, 09:47:55 PM
Hopefully they won't rip people off again.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 20, 2019, 10:36:40 PM
I've just renewed.

I will, however, be moving seat to be closer to friends.

re relocation day, how does that work? i take it there will be some way of doing it online rather than actually going to the ticket office?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: spangley1812 on June 21, 2019, 05:16:05 AM
I've just renewed.

I will, however, be moving seat to be closer to friends.

re relocation day, how does that work? i take it there will be some way of doing it online rather than actually going to the ticket office?

All they will do is unlock all the seats they have available either unsold from last season or from people who have not renewed and its 1st come 1st served either on the phone, in person or on-line
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Lastfootstamper on June 21, 2019, 05:59:36 AM
I'm in no way convinced that you'll be able to relocate online. Bear in mind that towards the end of last season, when me and others repeatedly had the chance to move back to old seats that were reserved specifically for us, there was no online facility to do even this simple task. We had to ring the ticket office.

I honestly can't see them installing some bespoke software just for one day on Saturday whereby you'll be able to effectively sell your season ticket back and then buy a new one.

And I can only imagine the ire if you tried to move other people too, so's you could all sit together.

I'll be ringing them later to get my old UT seat back. I'll ask them then, but I really do think that you're looking at either queuing up or making a potentially fairly frustrating phone call.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: four fornicholl on June 21, 2019, 06:59:00 AM
I went to an Everton relocation day with a mate 5 years ago and you walked around the stand and picked up a card off the seat you wanted.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: chrisw1 on June 21, 2019, 08:13:30 AM
I went to an Everton relocation day with a mate 5 years ago and you walked around the stand and picked up a card off the seat you wanted.
What a great idea.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: john e on June 21, 2019, 08:28:32 AM
wouldnít it be difficult to go to the stadium to see the seats you wanted if someone was taking them online at the same time
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: robbo1874 on June 21, 2019, 09:07:26 AM
I donít remember demand for tickets exceeding supply, ever really being an issue in my supporting lifetime. This is a new one really, so havenít given it a great deal of thought. But I do think itís a good idea to limit the number of season tickets, or else people who canít afford one are going to be excluded from going.

As I remember, weíd have crowds around 33-36k And then, thereíd
be the ones where we couldíve sold 80k.

Couple of seasons like this and the case for adding extra capacity becomes quite strong. Itís a big risk though as everybody knows that thereís no crystal ball and no guarantees of staying in the prem, or the football / results retaining the extra crowds.

Iíd like to see the north stand redeveloped, but wouldnít be surprised, or too upset if it isnít, which I think is more likely, unless we do solidly break into top 6 territory.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: darren woolley on June 21, 2019, 09:29:39 AM
Are they doing the Claret Membership Schemes again  this season when are they on sale does anyone now.


I rang up the club and they said they havenít made their minds up yet.

Thanks for that Mike.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Lastfootstamper on June 21, 2019, 04:33:35 PM
Just spoken to Paul from the ticket office. You will not be able to relocate online.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: exigo on June 21, 2019, 04:52:41 PM
Are they doing the Claret Membership Schemes again  this season when are they on sale does anyone now.


I rang up the club and they said they havenít made their minds up yet.

Thanks for that Mike.

They have now. Just announced.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Davkaus on June 21, 2019, 08:51:02 PM
I absolutely hate it.

"Chuck us £35 and you can take your pick out of the big games without bothering to turn up to any others".
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: frank black on June 21, 2019, 09:13:16 PM
Just been looking at a programme from 1986. Attendances of circa 16000 average and £1.50 ticket (kids) £3.00 adults. How times have changed.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Dazvillain on June 21, 2019, 09:58:19 PM
With the club membership , can you purchase another couple of tickets with it if you donít mind not assigning to other fan idís  and having them against just mine ?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Lastfootstamper on June 21, 2019, 10:08:10 PM
With the club membership , can you purchase another couple of tickets with it if you donít mind not assigning to other fan idís  and having them against just mine ?


You can't jump the queue, no. You'll only be able to get extra tickets all on one reference once it goes to general sale. One qualifying reference = one ticket, member or season ticket holder or not.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Des Little on June 21, 2019, 10:48:21 PM
This is amazing. These conversations we are having on here were unthinkable In February, yet here we are.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 21, 2019, 11:31:02 PM
This is amazing. These conversations we are having on here were unthinkable In February, yet here we are.

I was on holiday last week. Me and the Mrs were on a train from Valencia, down the coast. We'd both spent the last ten minutes looking out the window, not saying anything.

After a while, in a splurge-of-consciousness moment, i turned to her and said, "Ten wins in a row, do you have any idea what an achievement that is?"

She looked at me like I'd just pissed in her shoes.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: The Edge on June 22, 2019, 09:12:55 AM
I absolutely hate it.

"Chuck us £35 and you can take your pick out of the big games without bothering to turn up to any others".
I don't think it works that way at all. There are only 8k seats for general sale and they aren't limiting the number of people who can join the scheme. It won't guarantee anyone a ticket but it means you are eligible to join the queue for one. My son for example can't guarantee he can make games due to his work but im buying him a 35 quid membership so at least he he's in with  a chance when he can. If i was loaded i'd just buy him a season ticket to guarantee his seat when he can make it. But i'm not so this is a compromise im happy to try out. The club aren't going to run such a scheme for free, after all they are a business.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: mike on June 22, 2019, 09:46:27 AM
I absolutely hate it.

"Chuck us £35 and you can take your pick out of the big games without bothering to turn up to any others".
I don't think it works that way at all. There are only 8k seats for general sale and they aren't limiting the number of people who can join the scheme. It won't guarantee anyone a ticket but it means you are eligible to join the queue for one. My son for example can't guarantee he can make games due to his work but im buying him a 35 quid membership so at least he he's in with  a chance when he can. If i was loaded i'd just buy him a season ticket to guarantee his seat when he can make it. But i'm not so this is a compromise im happy to try out. The club aren't going to run such a scheme for free, after all they are a business.

Iím the same. I canít get to the ground enough to justify a season ticket but I want to take my children to half a dozen games. They actually get four free tickets plus a joining gift plus birthday and Christmas cards so itís quite a good deal.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Lastfootstamper on June 22, 2019, 10:30:57 AM
I still think we needed a bigger ground...

The memberships are a good idea. If we exceed our capacity for now with them, so be it. Seeing the ground close to full for every game, not just the "big" ones, will be superb.
This is amazing. These conversations we are having on here were unthinkable In February, yet here we are.

You're not wrong!
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: exigo on June 22, 2019, 10:33:18 AM
Claret membership worked perfectly for me last season. I travel up from London for games, and this meant that I could pretty much guarantee being able to sit next to mates who are season ticket holders. Ended up doing 16 games, so it's certainly not just for people who want to handpick one or two games a season.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Dazvillain on June 22, 2019, 10:45:17 AM
With the club membership , can you purchase another couple of tickets with it if you donít mind not assigning to other fan idís  and having them against just mine ?


You can't jump the queue, no. You'll only be able to get extra tickets all on one reference once it goes to general sale. One qualifying reference = one ticket, member or season ticket holder or not.
Whilst I appreciate ur thoughts I know I ve purchased 3 before on my1 membership in 15/16 but all on my id. Thatís fine by us but I need 100% clarification so know how it works now. Canít even workout from terms and conditions.... point 18 does mention tickets in plural but not sure of context . Tried for your to get through to ticket office but keeps ringing me off as I donít have a current membership to renew Iím clearly down their priority listings.... very frustrating when Iím trying to make an informed decision 
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: exigo on June 22, 2019, 11:02:08 AM
Lastfootstamper is right. It's been tightened up so that you can only use your own reference for one ticket in the Claret/Cub member ticket window. When it goes to general sale, then you can purchase more.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Dazvillain on June 22, 2019, 11:16:30 AM
Lastfootstamper is right. It's been tightened up so that you can only use your own reference for one ticket in the Claret/Cub member ticket window. When it goes to general sale, then you can purchase more.
Ok thanks both
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Lastfootstamper on June 22, 2019, 11:17:19 AM
I think clause 17 (https://www.avfc.co.uk/club/legal/membership-terms-and-conditions) is straightforward
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17       Applications for Match Tickets in accordance with the Membership Programme are strictly on the basis of one Match Ticket per Member, unless expressly permitted otherwise by AVFC.
18 does state that for group applications,
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every Match Ticket applied for must be for use by a current Member (and details of each additional Member which are part of that application must be provided at the point any such application for Match Tickets is made).
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Dazvillain on June 22, 2019, 05:53:06 PM
Thanks , based on hour feedback weíve purchased 4 this afternoon . Nil phone answering all day at ticket office having selected their required options or not a reply on twitter posting as asked on avfc Supporter site .
Thank god for a few of you from heroes and villains !!👍

Just have to hope that 25% of ST holders donít buy 1 extra ticket each for every game or there wonít be any for claret members anyway 😂😂
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: chrisw1 on June 22, 2019, 06:38:43 PM
This is amazing. These conversations we are having on here were unthinkable In February, yet here we are.

I was on holiday last week. Me and the Mrs were on a train from Valencia, down the coast. We'd both spent the last ten minutes looking out the window, not saying anything.

After a while, in a splurge-of-consciousness moment, i turned to her and said, "Ten wins in a row, do you have any idea what an achievement that is?"

She looked at me like I'd just pissed in her shoes.
Love this post.  This is my life.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Lastfootstamper on June 22, 2019, 07:03:19 PM
Thanks , based on hour feedback weíve purchased 4 this afternoon . Nil phone answering all day at ticket office having selected their required options or not a reply on twitter posting as asked on avfc Supporter site .
Thank god for a few of you from heroes and villains !!👍

Just have to hope that 25% of ST holders donít buy 1 extra ticket each for every game or there wonít be any for claret members anyway 😂😂

You'll be fine. Last season there was usually a small window for season ticket holders to buy extra tickets before they went to general sale, but only after they'd been available to members for about a week. Your only trouble might come if we end up with STHs and memberships combined actually exceeding capacity, in which case you'll have to get in sharpish!
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Lastfootstamper on June 22, 2019, 07:27:25 PM
Also something I meant to say earlier, I don't believe the ticket office operation is manned on a Saturday, outside of matchdays and extraordinary circumstances.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Dazvillain on June 22, 2019, 09:14:11 PM
Also something I meant to say earlier, I don't believe the ticket office operation is manned on a Saturday, outside of matchdays and extraordinary circumstances.
Yes it was asking for various options then youíll be answered shortly to then dead ring tone. Just after 4pm it changed to answerphone message saying office was then closed.
Made redundant last year so retired at my youthful age so Iíll be ready online donít you worry !😜
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: amfy on June 22, 2019, 10:46:34 PM


Just have to hope that 25% of ST holders donít buy 1 extra ticket each for every game or there wonít be any for claret members anyway 😂😂

Claret members can buy their tickets before season ticket holders can buy more, on the basis that claret members are buying their own tickets whilst season ticket holders already have their own and are buying for others.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Dazvillain on June 22, 2019, 11:14:40 PM


Just have to hope that 25% of ST holders donít buy 1 extra ticket each for every game or there wonít be any for claret members anyway 😂😂

Claret members can buy their tickets before season ticket holders can buy more, on the basis that claret members are buying their own tickets whilst season ticket holders already have their own and are buying for others.
No itís def after ST holders secure extras, always has been



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Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Lastfootstamper on June 22, 2019, 11:41:28 PM
Daz, that's just confusing things by mentioning season ticket holders, who are technically first to get a ticket, namely their own.
This from a ticket office bulletin (for Bolton) from last season, there's more if you want to search
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Friday 28th September, 5pm ONLINE/Monday 1st October ON PHONE/IN PERSON: On sale to Claret and Cub Members

Friday 5th October, 5pm ONLINE/Monday 8th October ON PHONE/IN PERSON: On sale to Season Ticket Holders wishing to purchase extra tickets

Friday 12th October, 5pm ONLINE/Monday 15th October ON PHONE/IN PERSON: On general sale
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Richard on June 23, 2019, 09:58:08 AM
Yep, why on earth would season ticket holders get the chance to buy extra tickets before either members or casual supporters have a chance to ?

I'm someone  who goes to maybe half the home games. This thread is worrying me to be honest about seeing much next season !
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: spangley1812 on June 23, 2019, 12:31:10 PM
That was last season when tickets were readily available for most home games, I would not expect this season that season ticket holders would be able to buy any extra tickets, it will go to claret members ad then probably booking history
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: The Edge on June 23, 2019, 01:30:13 PM
Come on Villa announce the rebuild of the North stand. Take the capacity up to 50,000. The time has come.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Lastfootstamper on June 23, 2019, 01:41:24 PM
Tis a bit rubbish that in a quarter of a century since the Holte was changed, we've not seemed too bothered about getting capacity back up to what it was just before then.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: eamonn on June 23, 2019, 01:50:14 PM
Well it has been a lost decade (2010-2019) for us and arguably a lost 25 years given the fighting chance we had of establishing ourselves as a perennial big team in the mid-90s.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Pete3206 on June 23, 2019, 02:41:58 PM
Come on Villa announce the rebuild of the North stand. Take the capacity up to 50,000. The time has come.

Let's fill the ground and keep it full before worrying about any of that. We had a whole tier closed for nearly 3 years
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: cdbullyweefan on June 23, 2019, 02:46:50 PM
It was closed for some of those three years. It was open nearly as often as it was shut last season and we averaged over 36,000 despite loads of midweek and occasionally piss-poor away followings. There are hardly any midweek games in the Premier League and our average, excluding midweek games, and was just over 38,000.

We could go up to 50,000, I reckon. Better that than have it so that people who want to attend matches can't get tickets.

In any case, the North Stand looks a bit shabby compared to the rest of the ground and the Witton Lane Stand isn't fit for purpose in terms of facilities, and so on.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Lastfootstamper on June 23, 2019, 03:04:27 PM
Come on Villa announce the rebuild of the North stand. Take the capacity up to 50,000. The time has come.

Let's fill the ground and keep it full before worrying about any of that. We had a whole tier closed for nearly 3 years

Same old arguments though, isn't it? I counter with, why wait til we're assured of 50k to do it, when at which point we'll have to lose an entire stand for a year, and have to reduce capacity to a little over what's now STH levels? We don't have the luxury of being able to borrow Wembley while we're having the work done. Yeah, there's maybe the possibility of the new Alex, but unless that's being designed around some future use as a football ground, I can't see it being big enough.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: London Villan on June 23, 2019, 03:28:10 PM
The Alexandra Stadium could provide a 40,000 seat stop gap if there was big development going on at Villa Park - but that won't be until 2022.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: cdbullyweefan on June 23, 2019, 03:31:47 PM
Next summer will be our last "full" summer to do it until 2024.

2021/22 season will likely start early and 2022/23 season will probably finish late to accommodate the Qatar World Cup and we have the Commonwealth Games in 2022.

Our last game of the season is away. If we start building the day after our last home game we could have it ready for very near the start of the 2020/21 season, especially if we request a couple of away games to start the season, as has become common practise among clubs rebuilding their ground.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Des Little on June 23, 2019, 03:51:24 PM
Didnít I read that the North is getting a bit of spit and polish this summer?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on June 23, 2019, 04:24:38 PM
Come on Villa announce the rebuild of the North stand. Take the capacity up to 50,000. The time has come.

Let's fill the ground and keep it full before worrying about any of that. We had a whole tier closed for nearly 3 years

Same old arguments though, isn't it? I counter with, why wait til we're assured of 50k to do it, when at which point we'll have to lose an entire stand for a year, and have to reduce capacity to a little over what's now STH levels? We don't have the luxury of being able to borrow Wembley while we're having the work done. Yeah, there's maybe the possibility of the new Alex, but unless that's being designed around some future use as a football ground, I can't see it being big enough.

There has never been a time in my 48 years when we've ever looked like needing a 50k stadium and i doubt there ever will be.

Just pure vanity.

I can't think of anything much worse football wise than having a ground that's too big for 80% of the season and banks of empty unsold seats.

No need. 45k would be more than ample and we're close to that already.


Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 23, 2019, 04:38:07 PM
You could say the same about loads of clubs that now have capacities that 10-40 years ago you'd have thought they'd rarely need and yet now fill or near fill them. I hope we start thinking and acting like a big club, it's long overdue.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: cdbullyweefan on June 23, 2019, 04:58:34 PM
Agreed. 50,000 should be the minimum we are looking at.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: chrisw1 on June 23, 2019, 05:22:02 PM
In the long run if we want to compete with the big boys I would have thought weíd need to be filling 55k plus.  But that would only ever be likely after a sustained period of success.  I think the ground is plenty big enough for the next few seasons, particularly when the novelty of promotion has worn off.  But if weíre pushing top 6 in a few years and still selling out regularly then we can look at the next level.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: London Villan on June 23, 2019, 05:25:21 PM
Itís increasing our corporate sales thats the important thing in terms of revenue.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ads on June 23, 2019, 05:25:23 PM
Leicester are now averaging double what they were 20 years ago.

We've never had 30,000 season ticket holders or as few as 8,000 match day tickets per game. But that will be the reality, with all 19 games being sell outs, away crowd dependent.

This will more than likely lead to an average attendance of 41,000 plus, our highest since 1950. So greater demand now than at any point in all but a handful of users life time.

From Norwich to Bournemouth, supply has decreased by 50%, while demand will have increased.

There's been 50,000 attendances in lots of people lifetimes, before the capacity shrank.

You build every facet of the club; we are rebuilding the academy, rebuilding scouting, analytics, coaching, management, purchasing, so re-build the North. The decrease in elasticity of supply is going to make tickets a valuable commodity.

Take us to 52,000 and see how we get on.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on June 23, 2019, 07:23:19 PM
Take us to 52,000 and see how we get on.

And when we're still getting gates of mid 30k's in the main and say 45k every now and again what then?

The only way the club would ever consider increasing the capacity by so much is if we continually fill what we already have week in week out for a sustained period i'm sure. And surely that's exactly why we haven't despite having those plans all drawn up years ago.

It'd be far more logical to get a new North Stand built taking us up to 45k max IMHO.

Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 23, 2019, 07:34:03 PM
I don't see how that's logical. If you knock down the North it's pointless rebuilding it to add a few thousand to capacity and then have to start again to go to 50K when you could just go to 50k in the first place.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: four fornicholl on June 23, 2019, 07:44:35 PM
Create the product and they will come, see City, Arsenal, Spurs, and others, Sunderland even. If, as it looks like we have mega rich owners, there maybe no ceiling to what we could become.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: cdbullyweefan on June 23, 2019, 07:54:17 PM
Knocking down a stand to increase capacity by 2,000 would be a waste of time.

I hope our owners have a bit more ambition than sirlordbaltimore.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 23, 2019, 07:56:55 PM
Create the product and they will come, see City, Arsenal, Spurs, and others, Sunderland even. If, as it looks like we have mega rich owners, there maybe no ceiling to what we could become.

Manchester City found themselves being offered a new ground that would look ridiculous now if they hadn't got these owners. Spurs and Arsenal spent years selling out their grounds before they moved. Sunderland give do many tickets away their gates are irrelevant. For every Leicester and Southampton with bigger crowds there's a Coventry or Walsall whose ground move has done them no good at all.

If we can pull in 40k, or close to it, midweek against a mid-table team then expand but until then a new North Stand adding a couple of thousand to capacity and giving more corporate income should be enough.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: four fornicholl on June 23, 2019, 08:06:07 PM
Create the product and they will come, see City, Arsenal, Spurs, and others, Sunderland even. If, as it looks like we have mega rich owners, there maybe no ceiling to what we could become.

Manchester City found themselves being offered a new ground that would look ridiculous now if they hadn't got these owners. Spurs and Arsenal spent years selling out their grounds before they moved. Sunderland give do many tickets away their gates are irrelevant. For every Leicester and Southampton with bigger crowds there's a Coventry or Walsall whose ground move has done them no good at all.

If we can pull in 40k, or close to it, midweek against a mid-table team then expand but until then a new North Stand adding a couple of thousand to capacity and giving more corporate income should be enough.
What I was meaning was that if we become as successful as City, etc, with a city the size of Birmingham they will come.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 23, 2019, 08:08:25 PM
You either leave the North as it is (apart from some sprucing up) or knock it down and take capacity to 50K+, going half arsed and knocking it down to add a couple of thousand and a bit of corporate is a total waste of time and money.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 23, 2019, 08:11:06 PM
You either leave the North as it is (apart from some sprucing up) or knock it down and take capacity to 50K+, going half arsed and knocking it down to add a couple of thousand and a bit of corporate is a total waste of time and money.

Totally agree.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: cdbullyweefan on June 23, 2019, 08:15:04 PM
Create the product and they will come, see City, Arsenal, Spurs, and others, Sunderland even. If, as it looks like we have mega rich owners, there maybe no ceiling to what we could become.

Manchester City found themselves being offered a new ground that would look ridiculous now if they hadn't got these owners. Spurs and Arsenal spent years selling out their grounds before they moved. Sunderland give do many tickets away their gates are irrelevant. For every Leicester and Southampton with bigger crowds there's a Coventry or Walsall whose ground move has done them no good at all.

If we can pull in 40k, or close to it, midweek against a mid-table team then expand but until then a new North Stand adding a couple of thousand to capacity and giving more corporate income should be enough.

So we should base our capacity on a scenario that might apply once a season?

We will average over 40,000 next season. We don't want to be turning people away, if kids can't get to games they'll just end up supporting teams that are on telly all the time.

The past is irrevelant. How many times would West Ham or Spurs have filled a 50,000 capacity stadium regularly in the last forty years?

We can, and will, fill a bigger stadium.

And there is absolutely no point in tearing down a stand at great expense to replace it with one that only increases our potential income by a tiny amount.

The North Stand is rubbish, aesthetically, anyway, and the Witton Lane Stand is not fit for purpose in terms of its facilities.

Get them rebuilt.

We won't start playing like a big club on the pitch if we don't start acting like one off (and around) it.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Risso on June 23, 2019, 08:17:03 PM
You either leave the North as it is (apart from some sprucing up) or knock it down and take capacity to 50K+, going half arsed and knocking it down to add a couple of thousand and a bit of corporate is a total waste of time and money.

Totally agree.

Me too. 
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 23, 2019, 08:17:24 PM
One of the problems we have to fix is flat commercial income.

The fact we went years in a league which is a license to print money and failed to significantly grow it says all you need to know about this club in recent years
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: TonyD on June 23, 2019, 08:46:35 PM
Give people what they want and increase the size of the Holte.  Knock it down - two tiers is wrong and build a Dortmund like end - 20,000.   It would be like having the old Holte back but only seated.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: kieron on June 23, 2019, 08:47:39 PM
We'll be having the same discussions about any potential redevelopment in 10 years time, just like we have been for the past 10 years.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 23, 2019, 08:50:34 PM
Ten thousand empty seats on a regular basis would look ridiculous. Revamp the North Stand, allowing it to be the first phase of an all-round expansion should the demand be there, and see what transpires from there.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ads on June 23, 2019, 08:58:17 PM
Why would you compare us to utter irrelevances like Walsall or Coventry as a reason not to increase capacity?

And we're not going to be averaging mid-30s. We'll be selling out, every week.

Strike while the iron is hot. Dont add 3,000 seats, add 10,000. Grow every facet and act like the big club we self evidently are, but seldom perform as.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Chinchilla Bathhouse on June 23, 2019, 09:05:31 PM
An extra 10,000 is a hell of a lot of people. Where are they all coming from? Pretty sure we didn't sell out every match last time we were in the Premier League, we should probably aim to do that for a couple of seasons before building massive extensions.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 23, 2019, 09:10:07 PM
Why would you compare us to utter irrelevances like Walsall or Coventry as a reason not to increase capacity?

And we're not going to be averaging mid-30s. We'll be selling out, every week.

Strike while the iron is hot. Dont add 3,000 seats, add 10,000. Grow every facet and act like the big club we self evidently are, but seldom perform as.

They're as valid as comparing us with Arsenal. The same things that are being said now were being said last time we got a 40k average, and look what happened after that. Let's see if we can fill what we've got first, before getting above ourselves.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 23, 2019, 09:12:28 PM
An extra 10,000 is a hell of a lot of people. Where are they all coming from? Pretty sure we didn't sell out every match last time we were in the Premier League, we should probably aim to do that for a couple of seasons before building massive extensions.

So you leave the North as it is until demand is constantly there to go for the big increase. It is a total waste of time and money to knock it down and add a few thousand seats which some are suggesting and imo is a pretty bonkers way to waste millions.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Villan For Life on June 23, 2019, 09:17:56 PM
Iíd rather the money was invested in the squad for the next 3 or 4 seasons, then if we are progressing expand the ground.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ads on June 23, 2019, 09:35:57 PM
Why would you compare us to utter irrelevances like Walsall or Coventry as a reason not to increase capacity?

And we're not going to be averaging mid-30s. We'll be selling out, every week.

Strike while the iron is hot. Dont add 3,000 seats, add 10,000. Grow every facet and act like the big club we self evidently are, but seldom perform as.

They're as valid as comparing us with Arsenal. The same things that are being said now were being said last time we got a 40k average, and look what happened after that. Let's see if we can fill what we've got first, before getting above ourselves.

Yes, we missed out on millions of revenue over the past 10 years, as we'd have filled the ground, even in the 2nd division on occasions.

Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Brassneck on June 23, 2019, 09:46:25 PM
Why would you compare us to utter irrelevances like Walsall or Coventry as a reason not to increase capacity?

And we're not going to be averaging mid-30s. We'll be selling out, every week.

Strike while the iron is hot. Dont add 3,000 seats, add 10,000. Grow every facet and act like the big club we self evidently are, but seldom perform as.

They're as valid as comparing us with Arsenal. The same things that are being said now were being said last time we got a 40k average, and look what happened after that. Let's see if we can fill what we've got first, before getting above ourselves.

How about West Ham Dave?  They now average way more than we do and I think they have a waiting list for season tickets.

Football is booming.  We somehow have to find a way to increase our gates just as others have done.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 23, 2019, 09:53:03 PM
Why would you compare us to utter irrelevances like Walsall or Coventry as a reason not to increase capacity?

And we're not going to be averaging mid-30s. We'll be selling out, every week.

Strike while the iron is hot. Dont add 3,000 seats, add 10,000. Grow every facet and act like the big club we self evidently are, but seldom perform as.

They're as valid as comparing us with Arsenal. The same things that are being said now were being said last time we got a 40k average, and look what happened after that. Let's see if we can fill what we've got first, before getting above ourselves.

How about West Ham Dave?  They now average way more than we do and I think they have a waiting list for season tickets.

Football is booming.  We somehow have to find a way to increase our gates just as others have done.

West Ham are in London, playing in one of the world's most iconic stadiums. Ask their supporters what they think of it.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Lastfootstamper on June 23, 2019, 09:53:15 PM
An extra 10,000 is a hell of a lot of people. Where are they all coming from? Pretty sure we didn't sell out every match last time we were in the Premier League, we should probably aim to do that for a couple of seasons before building massive extensions.


Where did 58,000 West Ham fans come from?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: The Edge on June 23, 2019, 10:02:07 PM
Create the product and they will come, see City, Arsenal, Spurs, and others, Sunderland even. If, as it looks like we have mega rich owners, there maybe no ceiling to what we could become.

Manchester City found themselves being offered a new ground that would look ridiculous now if they hadn't got these owners. Spurs and Arsenal spent years selling out their grounds before they moved. Sunderland give do many tickets away their gates are irrelevant. For every Leicester and Southampton with bigger crowds there's a Coventry or Walsall whose ground move has done them no good at all.

If we can pull in 40k, or close to it, midweek against a mid-table team then expand but until then a new North Stand adding a couple of thousand to capacity and giving more corporate income should be enough.

So we should base our capacity on a scenario that might apply once a season?

We will average over 40,000 next season. We don't want to be turning people away, if kids can't get to games they'll just end up supporting teams that are on telly all the time.

The past is irrevelant. How many times would West Ham or Spurs have filled a 50,000 capacity stadium regularly in the last forty years?

We can, and will, fill a bigger stadium.

And there is absolutely no point in tearing down a stand at great expense to replace it with one that only increases our potential income by a tiny amount.

The North Stand is rubbish, aesthetically, anyway, and the Witton Lane Stand is not fit for purpose in terms of its facilities.

Get them rebuilt.

We won't start playing like a big club on the pitch if we don't start acting like one off (and around) it.
I started this debate when i suggested a rebuild of the North stand to bring our capacity up to 50  thousand. Everything you said in this post completely sums up my point.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Chinchilla Bathhouse on June 23, 2019, 10:03:53 PM
An extra 10,000 is a hell of a lot of people. Where are they all coming from? Pretty sure we didn't sell out every match last time we were in the Premier League, we should probably aim to do that for a couple of seasons before building massive extensions.


Where did 58,000 West Ham fans come from?

What Dave just said. I'm just wondering where this idea comes from that there are enough match-going Villa fans out there to fill a 50,000 plus stadium any time soon. I don't think we've sold out every game in the thirty-odd years I've been a fan. I don't think there's ever been a season ticket waiting list. I'm all for expansion and thinking big, but only when it's based on something tangible and there's an obvious need for it. I don't see how that's controversial given our painful recent history of throwing money down the pan.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: cdbullyweefan on June 23, 2019, 10:09:06 PM
There's a season ticket waiting list now..

We have a choice:

(a) Expand the ground, accept that it might not he full every single game.

or

(b) Don't expand it and have disappointed fans unable to get tickets on a regular basis, costing Villa money at the same time.

I prefer (a).
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 23, 2019, 10:09:19 PM
It's not like we're going to knock it down tomorrow, we've the best part of a year to judge what demand is, and what it's likely to be.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 23, 2019, 10:11:38 PM
It's alright to say stick an extra eight/ten thousand seats in and they'll be filled, but apart from the obvious how? (because we're still looking at a thirty per cent rise in gates at least to prevent the project from looking daft) there's also the question of where they're going to go.

You're not going to be able to double the capacity of the North Stand because there isn't that much room there - in fact, a new stand even holding the same number as now would take up a lot more space than the present one because we'd have to allow a lot more legroom and corporate facilities. Then there's the additional parking that would be needed. It all adds up to much more than build it and (hope) they'll come.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 23, 2019, 10:13:10 PM
We moan for years that we don't think and act like a big club that's going places and instead have a corner shop mentality, and then when we (the fans) talk about the club doing that, we're thinking too big.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ads on June 23, 2019, 10:17:17 PM
We moan for years that we don't think and act like a big club that's going places and instead have a corner shop mentality, and then when we (the fans) talk about the club doing that, we're thinking too big.

Absolutely. There is, to paraphrase a horrible bastatd, some beans on toast Doug Ellis thinking going on.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: cdbullyweefan on June 23, 2019, 10:17:31 PM
It's alright to say stick an extra eight/ten thousand seats in and they'll be filled, but apart from the obvious how? (because we're still looking at a thirty per cent rise in gates at least to prevent the project from looking daft) there's also the question of where they're going to go.

You're not going to be able to double the capacity of the North Stand because there isn't that much room there - in fact, a new stand even holding the same number as now would take up a lot more space than the present one because we'd have to allow a lot more legroom and corporate facilities. Then there's the additional parking that would be needed. It all adds up to much more than build it and (hope) they'll come.

I thought we already had planning permission to develop/replace the North Stand and its disgracefully renamed neighbour going back to when Ellis was in charge. So that doesn't seem to be a problem.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: The Edge on June 23, 2019, 10:17:46 PM
An extra 10,000 is a hell of a lot of people. Where are they all coming from? Pretty sure we didn't sell out every match last time we were in the Premier League, we should probably aim to do that for a couple of seasons before building massive extensions.


Where did 58,000 West Ham fans come from?

What Dave just said. I'm just wondering where this idea comes from that there are enough match-going Villa fans out there to fill a 50,000 plus stadium any time soon. I don't think we've sold out every game in the thirty-odd years I've been a fan. I don't think there's ever been a season ticket waiting list. I'm all for expansion and thinking big, but only when it's based on something tangible and there's an obvious need for it. I don't see how that's controversial given our painful recent history of throwing money down the pan.
I counter your point with Barcelona. Over 100,000 seats.They don't fill the Nou Camp  every game but they can and do fill it when the occasion suits. No one ever questions why the ground is half full when they play bang average teams. That huge stadium is iconic and it defines them as the worlds No 1 football club. Im not suggesting we can compete with them but i am suggesting that we can and should  start to think big. I absolutely believe that we are capable of becoming  one of Englands top clubs. Our history proves this. In fact our heritage demands it.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: eamonn on June 23, 2019, 10:18:17 PM
Yes exactly, people saying that it's pointless only adding a couple of thousand to the North Stand - with proper leg room and corporate boxes, 2000 would be a realistic upgrade. To get to the golden figure of 52,000 capacity that gets bandied about, that 10k increase on current capacity would surely have to be absorbed by all four sides, how the hell could you do it just at one end which isn't even the "hardcore" area for home support.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 23, 2019, 10:19:45 PM
It's alright to say stick an extra eight/ten thousand seats in and they'll be filled, but apart from the obvious how? (because we're still looking at a thirty per cent rise in gates at least to prevent the project from looking daft) there's also the question of where they're going to go.

You're not going to be able to double the capacity of the North Stand because there isn't that much room there - in fact, a new stand even holding the same number as now would take up a lot more space than the present one because we'd have to allow a lot more legroom and corporate facilities. Then there's the additional parking that would be needed. It all adds up to much more than build it and (hope) they'll come.

I thought we already had planning permission to develop/replace the North Stand and its disgracefully renamed neighbour going back to when Ellis was in charge. So that doesn't seem to be a problem.

I believe it ran out and was subject to improving the traffic problems.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: cdbullyweefan on June 23, 2019, 10:24:12 PM
But even so, it suggests there is no reason why we can't increase capacity in that space. And transport probably has improved, to an extent. We have more fans arriving by coach, for instance, which lessens impact to residents. Still plenty more to do there, admittedly. But if the council can grant permission for a 15,000 capacity stadium to be expanded to 40,000 then a 25% capacity boost for a stadium not far away shouldn't be catastrophic.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Chinchilla Bathhouse on June 23, 2019, 10:25:28 PM
It's not about not thinking too big, it's about not getting ahead of ourselves. I'd love us to think bloody massive, starting with the football. Chuck shedloads of money at that first, make progress on the field, that's the biggest single thing that'll bring the crowds in. Everything follows from there. There's nothing Doug Ellis about that whatsoever.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 23, 2019, 10:28:17 PM
But even so, it suggests there is no reason why we can't increase capacity in that space. And transport probably has improved, to an extent. We have more fans arriving by coach, for instance, which lessens impact to residents. Still plenty more to do there, admittedly. But if the council can grant permission for a 15,000 capacity stadium to be expanded to 40,000 then a 25% capacity boost for a stadium not far away shouldn't be catastrophic.

There's a lot more available land there than we've got for a start, and a few weeks of disruption for the Commonwealth Games is a lot different to once a fortnight.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 23, 2019, 10:32:45 PM
Pretty sure the North holds just over 7k, it shouldn't be too difficult to build a new stand there that could hold say 13k (same as the Holte but with boxes and corporate included in that capacity) taking us to approx 48k. And if we're still selling out then look at Witton Lane if a further increase is needed, which will probably take a long time to sort anyway with the road and houses.

I just don't see the point in spending a shitload load of money to add just a couple of K, and then find it's still not enough. Either do the North properly or leave it as it is (capacity wise).
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 23, 2019, 10:34:27 PM
It's not about not thinking too big, it's about not getting ahead of ourselves. I'd love us to think bloody massive, starting with the football. Chuck shedloads of money at that first, make progress on the field, that's the biggest single thing that'll bring the crowds in. Everything follows from there. There's nothing Doug Ellis about that whatsoever.

The crowds are being brought in with record ST sales, and it will be the best part of at least a year before it happens so the club has the opportunity to asses demand etc.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 23, 2019, 10:37:53 PM
Pretty sure the North holds just over 7k, it shouldn't be too difficult to build a new stand there that could hold say 13k (same as the Holte but with boxes and corporate included in that capacity) taking us to approx 48k. And if we're still selling out then look at Witton Lane if a further increase is needed, which will probably take a long time to sort anyway with the road and houses.

I just don't see the point in spending a shitload load of money to add just a couple of K, and then find it's still not enough. Either do the North properly or leave it as it is (capacity wise).

Good luck in almost doubling capacity with the land we have available, bearing in mind that you'll need more car parking and room for improved shop facilities.



Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: cdbullyweefan on June 23, 2019, 10:39:15 PM
If we have thirty thousand season ticket holders it's not unreasonable to think that we can get 40,000. We've increase it by about ten thousand in hardly any time despite doing sod all, really. Our board have experience running a succesful team and know how marketing works. I think we should probably allow an extra thousand or so away fans to attend games, too. You'd be talking a minimum of 45,000 people turning up and at least eight or nine 50,000 attendances on that basis.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 23, 2019, 10:55:13 PM
Pretty sure the North holds just over 7k, it shouldn't be too difficult to build a new stand there that could hold say 13k (same as the Holte but with boxes and corporate included in that capacity) taking us to approx 48k. And if we're still selling out then look at Witton Lane if a further increase is needed, which will probably take a long time to sort anyway with the road and houses.

I just don't see the point in spending a shitload load of money to add just a couple of K, and then find it's still not enough. Either do the North properly or leave it as it is (capacity wise).

Good luck in almost doubling capacity with the land we have available, bearing in mind that you'll need more car parking and room for improved shop facilities.


Depends if we're ambitious and want to see solutions and reasons to do things or we're happy to stay as a corner shop and see problems and reasons to not bother as it's too difficult to be a big club. As i've said, they've at least the best part of a year to asses demand, logistics and so on.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: maidstonevillain on June 23, 2019, 10:59:02 PM
Why would you compare us to utter irrelevances like Walsall or Coventry as a reason not to increase capacity?

And we're not going to be averaging mid-30s. We'll be selling out, every week.

Strike while the iron is hot. Dont add 3,000 seats, add 10,000. Grow every facet and act like the big club we self evidently are, but seldom perform as.

They're as valid as comparing us with Arsenal. The same things that are being said now were being said last time we got a 40k average, and look what happened after that. Let's see if we can fill what we've got first, before getting above ourselves.

How about West Ham Dave?  They now average way more than we do and I think they have a waiting list for season tickets.

Football is booming.  We somehow have to find a way to increase our gates just as others have done.

West Ham are in London, playing in one of the world's most iconic stadiums. Ask their supporters what they think of it.

Well it was iconic, until they converted it into a fooyball ground.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 23, 2019, 11:04:05 PM
West Ham do, or at least did, have about 10k U16 season tickets holders (£99 a ST) and also gave away tens of thousands tickets each season.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Chinchilla Bathhouse on June 23, 2019, 11:07:58 PM
It's not about not thinking too big, it's about not getting ahead of ourselves. I'd love us to think bloody massive, starting with the football. Chuck shedloads of money at that first, make progress on the field, that's the biggest single thing that'll bring the crowds in. Everything follows from there. There's nothing Doug Ellis about that whatsoever.

The crowds are being brought in with record ST sales, and it will be the best part of at least a year before it happens so the club has the opportunity to asses demand etc.

That's great, I'm not in the market for a season ticket so didn't know they were in record demand. Hopefully this is the start of something big then, on and off the field.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Brassneck on June 23, 2019, 11:54:32 PM
Why would you compare us to utter irrelevances like Walsall or Coventry as a reason not to increase capacity?

And we're not going to be averaging mid-30s. We'll be selling out, every week.

Strike while the iron is hot. Dont add 3,000 seats, add 10,000. Grow every facet and act like the big club we self evidently are, but seldom perform as.

They're as valid as comparing us with Arsenal. The same things that are being said now were being said last time we got a 40k average, and look what happened after that. Let's see if we can fill what we've got first, before getting above ourselves.

How about West Ham Dave?  They now average way more than we do and I think they have a waiting list for season tickets.

Football is booming.  We somehow have to find a way to increase our gates just as others have done.

West Ham are in London, playing in one of the world's most iconic stadiums. Ask their supporters what they think of it.

I agree.  However, that isn't the point.  We aren't going to move into a soulless stadium.  If West Ham managed to find another 20,000 regulars, why can't we find 10,000?

Birmingham is also developing with apartments, bars and restaurants opening up regularly.  There is no reason why we can't be as adventurous.   
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: ChicagoLion on June 24, 2019, 09:35:33 AM
There is no hurry, after a year or 2 in the PL should enable them to understand the potential or lack of.
I also think that they would need to involve the Council early to start discussions around improved access transport parking etc.
I have allways thought that the North Stand ruins the look of VP and would love to see it demolished.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: cheltenhamlion on June 24, 2019, 10:06:38 AM
It's not about not thinking too big, it's about not getting ahead of ourselves. I'd love us to think bloody massive, starting with the football. Chuck shedloads of money at that first, make progress on the field, that's the biggest single thing that'll bring the crowds in. Everything follows from there. There's nothing Doug Ellis about that whatsoever.

The crowds are being brought in with record ST sales, and it will be the best part of at least a year before it happens so the club has the opportunity to asses demand etc.

That's great, I'm not in the market for a season ticket so didn't know they were in record demand. Hopefully this is the start of something big then, on and off the field.

There is record demand and daft demand. We have sold ST's out and have thousands on a waiting list. Finish even mid table and you have a compelling argument to ramp up capacity.

Call it the Wolves factor. They are that excited now that AT LEAST, 15 people might turn up....
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Chinchilla Bathhouse on June 24, 2019, 10:26:53 AM
It's not about not thinking too big, it's about not getting ahead of ourselves. I'd love us to think bloody massive, starting with the football. Chuck shedloads of money at that first, make progress on the field, that's the biggest single thing that'll bring the crowds in. Everything follows from there. There's nothing Doug Ellis about that whatsoever.

The crowds are being brought in with record ST sales, and it will be the best part of at least a year before it happens so the club has the opportunity to asses demand etc.

That's great, I'm not in the market for a season ticket so didn't know they were in record demand. Hopefully this is the start of something big then, on and off the field.

There is record demand and daft demand. We have sold ST's out and have thousands on a waiting list. Finish even mid table and you have a compelling argument to ramp up capacity.

Call it the Wolves factor. They are that excited now that AT LEAST, 15 people might turn up....

Now that IS daft. 15? You'll be telling me next that they're going to take the hazard tape down and reopen that condemned stand behind the goal...
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: ChicagoLion on June 24, 2019, 11:15:33 AM
It's not about not thinking too big, it's about not getting ahead of ourselves. I'd love us to think bloody massive, starting with the football. Chuck shedloads of money at that first, make progress on the field, that's the biggest single thing that'll bring the crowds in. Everything follows from there. There's nothing Doug Ellis about that whatsoever.

The crowds are being brought in with record ST sales, and it will be the best part of at least a year before it happens so the club has the opportunity to asses demand etc.

That's great, I'm not in the market for a season ticket so didn't know they were in record demand. Hopefully this is the start of something big then, on and off the field.

There is record demand and daft demand. We have sold ST's out and have thousands on a waiting list. Finish even mid table and you have a compelling argument to ramp up capacity.

Call it the Wolves factor. They are that excited now that AT LEAST, 15 people might turn up....

Now that IS daft. 15? You'll be telling me next that they're going to take the hazard tape down and reopen that condemned stand behind the goal...
I thought that Black and Yellow hazard tape was celebratory bunting.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Border villan on June 24, 2019, 11:23:11 AM
It's not about not thinking too big, it's about not getting ahead of ourselves. I'd love us to think bloody massive, starting with the football. Chuck shedloads of money at that first, make progress on the field, that's the biggest single thing that'll bring the crowds in. Everything follows from there. There's nothing Doug Ellis about that whatsoever.

The crowds are being brought in with record ST sales, and it will be the best part of at least a year before it happens so the club has the opportunity to asses demand etc.

That's great, I'm not in the market for a season ticket so didn't know they were in record demand. Hopefully this is the start of something big then, on and off the field.

There is record demand and daft demand. We have sold ST's out and have thousands on a waiting list. Finish even mid table and you have a compelling argument to ramp up capacity.

Call it the Wolves factor. They are that excited now that AT LEAST, 15 people might turn up....

Now that IS daft. 15? You'll be telling me next that they're going to take the hazard tape down and reopen that condemned stand behind the goal...
I thought that Black and Yellow hazard tape was celebratory bunting.
Careful if you go to the friendly at Shrewsbury. Bunting has a very different meaning to us rural folk!
(No sheep were harmed in the writing of this comment).
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on June 24, 2019, 01:32:04 PM

Unless i've totally misread things, we don't have 30,000 season ticket holders and a waiting list. We have set a 30k limit on them and some folks are currently on a waiting list for one of those.

Fast forward a year or two and if we're piddling about in the lower reaches of the PL or even midtable and you can bet your arse they wont all still be there. And if we are showing some form towards the top six we still wouldn't shift more than 35k season tickets IMHO

I just don't know why people think we would. Absolutely nothing has shown that in recent history (four decades or so)
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Lastfootstamper on June 24, 2019, 01:40:34 PM
From my reading of it, after this Friday, final renewal day, we'll have 30,000 and a waiting list, unless unlike the current trend there's thousands still to renew who are thinking, "nah, sod this".
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: bjfoster on June 24, 2019, 03:21:20 PM
I don't understand the clamour to extend the ground. I get that the North Stand needs redeveloping but until we have around 10k people on a waiting list or have 3 seasons with consistent sell-outs I don't seen the need for it.

Regarding relocation day, are we expecting an update soon on how it will work logistically? i.e. will we be able to do it online?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: The Edge on June 24, 2019, 03:38:32 PM

Unless i've totally misread things, we don't have 30,000 season ticket holders and a waiting list. We have set a 30k limit on them and some folks are currently on a waiting list for one of those.

Fast forward a year or two and if we're piddling about in the lower reaches of the PL or even midtable and you can bet your arse they wont all still be there. And if we are showing some form towards the top six we still wouldn't shift more than 35k season tickets IMHO

I just don't know why people think we would. Absolutely nothing has shown that in recent history (four decades or so)
The club put the brakes on ST sales because at the current rate if existing ST holders take up the renewal we will hit the 30k mark leaving only 8k on general sale matchdays. This has created a situation where there is a waiting list over and above the capped limit of 30k. Then we have the Claret club membership so i think its safe to assume our avetage next season will hover around the 40k mark.I get your cautious view but i don't share it. There is genuine optomism about the place that i haven't known for years. Lets just go for it and see where it takes us. I'm in the camp of extending the stadium. We have wealthy owners who have stated publicly that they want to make us one of the top clubs in the world! Who knows? I'm just going to enjoy the ride.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ads on June 24, 2019, 04:10:51 PM
Why 3 seasons? Why not 5? 2? 10?

Last season there was 16,000 match day tickets available for home support  per game and as has been the case in every season before, no fundamental need for a season ticket, as supply exists in good quantities.

Now there are 8,000, including players tickets, Lion Clubs, competition winners and the like. Less than 150,000 available match tickets over the season as opposed to 304,000.

That hugely increases the need for a season ticket, increases demand that for the first time perhaps ever, Villa Park will not meet.

What would any big company do with their product? Twiddle their thumbs and see how it goes apparently, while making sure there's only 2 children in the shop at any given time.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ad@m on June 24, 2019, 04:31:15 PM
Why 3 seasons? Why not 5? 2? 10?

Last season there was 16,000 match day tickets available for home support  per game and as has been the case in every season before, no fundamental need for a season ticket, as supply exists in good quantities.

Now there are 8,000, including players tickets, Lion Clubs, competition winners and the like. Less than 150,000 available match tickets over the season as opposed to 304,000.

That hugely increases the need for a season ticket, increases demand that for the first time perhaps ever, Villa Park will not meet.

What would any big company do with their product? Twiddle their thumbs and see how it goes apparently, while making sure there's only 2 children in the shop at any given time.

You're talking about one season though.

If next year doesn't go to plan, Deano gets the boot by Christmas, and we bring in Pulis (or someone "sexier" playing similar football) how many season tickets do you think we'll sell the following season?

30,000 people in a 42,000 capacity VP looks depressing - 30,000 in a 50 or 60,000 capacity VP would be soul-destroying.  If it costs £100m to build those extra seats that'll be £100m we can't spend on improving the squad.

As others have said, let's get the squad sorted first and the ground improvements can follow.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: hipkiss92 on June 24, 2019, 05:09:01 PM
Pretty sure the North holds just over 7k, it shouldn't be too difficult to build a new stand there that could hold say 13k (same as the Holte but with boxes and corporate included in that capacity) taking us to approx 48k. And if we're still selling out then look at Witton Lane if a further increase is needed, which will probably take a long time to sort anyway with the road and houses.

I just don't see the point in spending a shitload load of money to add just a couple of K, and then find it's still not enough. Either do the North properly or leave it as it is (capacity wise).

Good luck in almost doubling capacity with the land we have available, bearing in mind that you'll need more car parking and room for improved shop facilities.




I'd argue the current layout of the area behind the North Stand is relatively inefficient, both with the layout of the car park, and the position of the academy building, ticket office and shop.

Filling in the corners would easily add another 1,000 seats. The quality of any upgrade to the North Stand is probably more important than any increase in capacity as well. Bring the stadium up to around 45k.

Big challenge then in revamping Witton Lane to then bring the capacity up further, depending on land constraints with the road and land on the other side.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ads on June 24, 2019, 05:10:41 PM
And what's the worst that can happen? We're left with a ground we fill a few times a year and make extra money out of.

Or, we actually back ourselves and act like what we are.; comfortably the biggest club in one of the largest population centres in Europe. Infrastructure is exempt from FFP, so it wouldn't come at a cost of buying exciting players, like £22m Brazlian strikers.

Given Purslow identified Smith for his style, if he fails, we will look for somebody who plays the game in an attractive manner.

We're a big club. What I find embarrassing is not some empty seats. Its looking at the mess that is the North. A converted shallow lower tier, an upper tier that is too narrow to fill the end, with a ridiculous goal post design.

Endless comments about how utterly shit the Upper Witton in particular is as an away end. Cramped and dingy.

That's not what Villa Park is and it's not what we should be about. Strike now and seek to redevelop at the first available opportunity. The support is there. They're queuing up.

Too much Ellis style thinking.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ads on June 24, 2019, 05:17:19 PM
To add and repeat what PWS said; its utterly pointless to add 3000 seats. A redeveloped North, with the corners filled would add 8,000-10,000 onto the gate. It would include corporate boxes and dramtically increase commercial revenue, match day and season ticket sales, the aesthetics  the atmosphere would be better and more intimidating too.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on June 24, 2019, 05:19:49 PM
Pretty sure the North holds just over 7k, it shouldn't be too difficult to build a new stand there that could hold say 13k (same as the Holte but with boxes and corporate included in that capacity) taking us to approx 48k. And if we're still selling out then look at Witton Lane if a further increase is needed, which will probably take a long time to sort anyway with the road and houses.

I just don't see the point in spending a shitload load of money to add just a couple of K, and then find it's still not enough. Either do the North properly or leave it as it is (capacity wise).

Good luck in almost doubling capacity with the land we have available, bearing in mind that you'll need more car parking and room for improved shop facilities.




I'd argue the current layout of the area behind the North Stand is relatively inefficient, both with the layout of the car park, and the position of the academy building, ticket office and shop.

Filling in the corners would easily add another 1,000 seats. The quality of any upgrade to the North Stand is probably more important than any increase in capacity as well. Bring the stadium up to around 45k.

Big challenge then in revamping Witton Lane to then bring the capacity up further, depending on land constraints with the road and land on the other side.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: hipkiss92 on June 24, 2019, 05:21:21 PM
Pretty sure the North holds just over 7k, it shouldn't be too difficult to build a new stand there that could hold say 13k (same as the Holte but with boxes and corporate included in that capacity) taking us to approx 48k. And if we're still selling out then look at Witton Lane if a further increase is needed, which will probably take a long time to sort anyway with the road and houses.

I just don't see the point in spending a shitload load of money to add just a couple of K, and then find it's still not enough. Either do the North properly or leave it as it is (capacity wise).

Good luck in almost doubling capacity with the land we have available, bearing in mind that you'll need more car parking and room for improved shop facilities.




I'd argue the current layout of the area behind the North Stand is relatively inefficient, both with the layout of the car park, and the position of the academy building, ticket office and shop.

Filling in the corners would easily add another 1,000 seats. The quality of any upgrade to the North Stand is probably more important than any increase in capacity as well. Bring the stadium up to around 45k.

Big challenge then in revamping Witton Lane to then bring the capacity up further, depending on land constraints with the road and land on the other side.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo



Sorry, North Stand end only
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on June 24, 2019, 05:21:55 PM

I don't want us to end up with a bowl
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: hipkiss92 on June 24, 2019, 05:26:28 PM
In any case, appears the planning submission made to extend the North Stand and alter Trinity Road (extending from 42k to 48k) was withdrawn some time ago.

https://eplanning.birmingham.gov.uk/Northgate/PlanningExplorer/Generic/StdDetails.aspx?PT=Planning%20Applications%20On-Line&TYPE=PL/PlanningPK.xml&PARAM0=359101&XSLT=/Northgate/PlanningExplorer/SiteFiles/Skins/Birmingham/xslt/PL/PLDetails.xslt&FT=Planning%20Application%20Details&PUBLIC=Y&XMLSIDE=/Northgate/PlanningExplorer/SiteFiles/Skins/Birmingham/Menus/PL.xml&DAURI=PLANNING
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: The Edge on June 24, 2019, 05:27:38 PM
And what's the worst that can happen? We're left with a ground we fill a few times a year and make extra money out of.

Or, we actually back ourselves and act like what we are.; comfortably the biggest club in one of the largest population centres in Europe. Infrastructure is exempt from FFP, so it wouldn't come at a cost of buying exciting players, like £22m Brazlian strikers.

Given Purslow identified Smith for his style, if he fails, we will look for somebody who plays the game in an attractive manner.

We're a big club. What I find embarrassing is not some empty seats. Its looking at the mess that is the North. A converted shallow lower tier, an upper tier that is too narrow to fill the end, with a ridiculous goal post design.

Endless comments about how utterly shit the Upper Witton in particular is as an away end. Cramped and dingy.

That's not what Villa Park is and it's not what we should be about. Strike now and seek to redevelop at the first available opportunity. The support is there. They're queuing up.

Too much Ellis style thinking.
Spot on mate spot on. I mentioned the Nou Camp previously and before anyone laughs im not comparing us to Barca that would be ridiculous. I'm talking about the stadium itself. Probably the most iconic stadium in the world. Theres often 40,000 empty seats but who cares? When the occasion demands it the Nou Camp comes into it's own with over 100,000 in there. And thats how Villa Park should be. When it's full it's glorious and for me should hold at least 50,000. It wont bankrupt the club as our owners are extremely wealthy. What i find embarrassing is the North stand. It's as ugly as sin and the facilities are dire. Rebuilding it is a no brainer in my opinion. Look at Wolves. They have rebuilt their North stand twice in the time since we rebuilt the Witton end. We need to stop thinking like a corner shop club and start thinking like Selfridges!! Ellis has gone now ffs.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: cheltenhamlion on June 24, 2019, 05:48:46 PM
Leaving it for a season makes sense to ensure we stop up. I would have the planning application in now though to redevelop the North Stand.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ad@m on June 24, 2019, 05:56:39 PM
And what's the worst that can happen? We're left with a ground we fill a few times a year and make extra money out of.

Or, we actually back ourselves and act like what we are.; comfortably the biggest club in one of the largest population centres in Europe. Infrastructure is exempt from FFP, so it wouldn't come at a cost of buying exciting players, like £22m Brazlian strikers.

Given Purslow identified Smith for his style, if he fails, we will look for somebody who plays the game in an attractive manner.

We're a big club. What I find embarrassing is not some empty seats. Its looking at the mess that is the North. A converted shallow lower tier, an upper tier that is too narrow to fill the end, with a ridiculous goal post design.

Endless comments about how utterly shit the Upper Witton in particular is as an away end. Cramped and dingy.

That's not what Villa Park is and it's not what we should be about. Strike now and seek to redevelop at the first available opportunity. The support is there. They're queuing up.

Too much Ellis style thinking.
Spot on mate spot on. I mentioned the Nou Camp previously and before anyone laughs im not comparing us to Barca that would be ridiculous. I'm talking about the stadium itself. Probably the most iconic stadium in the world. Theres often 40,000 empty seats but who cares? When the occasion demands it the Nou Camp comes into it's own with over 100,000 in there. And thats how Villa Park should be. When it's full it's glorious and for me should hold at least 50,000. It wont bankrupt the club as our owners are extremely wealthy. What i find embarrassing is the North stand. It's as ugly as sin and the facilities are dire. Rebuilding it is a no brainer in my opinion. Look at Wolves. They have rebuilt their North stand twice in the time since we rebuilt the Witton end. We need to stop thinking like a corner shop club and start thinking like Selfridges!! Ellis has gone now ffs.

All this talk about not affecting FFP and the owners wealth is all well and good but you don't become a millionaire by pissing your money away at the first opportunity.

These guys are proper businessmen and they'll only invest their money if they think it's going to make them a return.  Done properly, the North Stand redevelopment could cost up to £200m on the basis Spurs spent £850m to build their new stadium.  Whilst they're both loaded, I'm certain they don't see that as the kind of money to spend without a cast iron business case behind it to show how it makes them more money.

Turn the squad in to one which is regularly in with a shout of Champions League football and your business case is there.  Do it now and a half empty Villa Park is only one of the problems it causes.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: The Edge on June 24, 2019, 06:14:22 PM
Leaving it for a season makes sense to ensure we stop up. I would have the planning application in now though to redevelop the North Stand.
I think that sounds sensible.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: The Edge on June 24, 2019, 06:24:37 PM
 8)
And what's the worst that can happen? We're left with a ground we fill a few times a year and make extra money out of.

Or, we actually back ourselves and act like what we are.; comfortably the biggest club in one of the largest population centres in Europe. Infrastructure is exempt from FFP, so it wouldn't come at a cost of buying exciting players, like £22m Brazlian strikers.

Given Purslow identified Smith for his style, if he fails, we will look for somebody who plays the game in an attractive manner.

We're a big club. What I find embarrassing is not some empty seats. Its looking at the mess that is the North. A converted shallow lower tier, an upper tier that is too narrow to fill the end, with a ridiculous goal post design.

Endless comments about how utterly shit the Upper Witton in particular is as an away end. Cramped and dingy.

That's not what Villa Park is and it's not what we should be about. Strike now and seek to redevelop at the first available opportunity. The support is there. They're queuing up.

Too much Ellis style thinking.
Spot on mate spot on. I mentioned the Nou Camp previously and before anyone laughs im not comparing us to Barca that would be ridiculous. I'm talking about the stadium itself. Probably the most iconic stadium in the world. Theres often 40,000 empty seats but who cares? When the occasion demands it the Nou Camp comes into it's own with over 100,000 in there. And thats how Villa Park should be. When it's full it's glorious and for me should hold at least 50,000. It wont bankrupt the club as our owners are extremely wealthy. What i find embarrassing is the North stand. It's as ugly as sin and the facilities are dire. Rebuilding it is a no brainer in my opinion. Look at Wolves. They have rebuilt their North stand twice in the time since we rebuilt the Witton end. We need to stop thinking like a corner shop club and start thinking like Selfridges!! Ellis has gone now ffs.

All this talk about not affecting FFP and the owners wealth is all well and good but you don't become a millionaire by pissing your money away at the first opportunity.

These guys are proper businessmen and they'll only invest their money if they think it's going to make them a return.  Done properly, the North Stand redevelopment could cost up to £200m on the basis Spurs spent £850m to build their new stadium.  Whilst they're both loaded, I'm certain they don't see that as the kind of money to spend without a cast iron business case behind it to show how it makes them more money.

Turn the squad in to one which is regularly in with a shout of Champions League football and your business case is there.  Do it now and a half empty Villa Park is only one of the problems it causes.
Redevelping the North stand would not cost anything like 200 million. 50 million sounds more like it but as you say rich people don't waste their money. Didn't Wes Edens oversee knocking down and rebuild an entire stadium in the US?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: cheltenhamlion on June 24, 2019, 06:35:35 PM
If Lerner and Xia had plans to do it, with far less attending interest than we have currently, why wouldn't they consider it?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: nigel on June 24, 2019, 06:46:39 PM
Why 3 seasons? Why not 5? 2? 10?

Last season there was 16,000 match day tickets available for home support  per game and as has been the case in every season before, no fundamental need for a season ticket, as supply exists in good quantities.

Now there are 8,000, including players tickets, Lion Clubs, competition winners and the like. Less than 150,000 available match tickets over the season as opposed to 304,000.

That hugely increases the need for a season ticket, increases demand that for the first time perhaps ever, Villa Park will not meet.

What would any big company do with their product? Twiddle their thumbs and see how it goes apparently, while making sure there's only 2 children in the shop at any given time.

Agree.
My thinking is along the lines of, the owners know that we could, possibly,  sell out on a regular basis this season, so may have already started the initial process. If we have a half decent season I reckon they might go for it.

Don't forget we're a season ahead of schedule (Just going by the 'Promotion not necessary'comments) so the 21/22 season would, probably,  have been the earliest start
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: john e on June 24, 2019, 07:42:14 PM
some questions if you donít mind

if you have bought a junior ST how and when do you go through the process of proof of age ?

When do you get the STís has anyone got thereís through the post yet ?

Sorry for my ignorance I have t been a ST holder since the days of MON



Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: spangley1812 on June 24, 2019, 07:49:12 PM
some questions if you don’t mind

if you have bought a junior ST how and when do you go through the process of proof of age ?

When do you get the ST’s has anyone got there’s through the post yet ?

Sorry for my ignorance I have t been a ST holder since the days of MON





They will send you an e-mail asking you to provide verification of the dob and you can e-mail it into them, new season tickets wont be sent out until the end of July the TO told me
 
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: oldhill_avfc on June 24, 2019, 07:59:31 PM
I said this a couple of years into the Lerner era.

It's not a case of will we fill a 50k ground?

It's more like we have to (build and) fill a 50k ground, along with vastly improving the commercial revenues if we ever going to compete at the absolute top level again.

Doing nothing is simply not an option unless we want to muddle along much like Everton are doing at the moment.

Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: The Edge on June 24, 2019, 08:50:44 PM
I said this a couple of years into the Lerner era.

It's not a case of will we fill a 50k ground?

It's more like we have to (build and) fill a 50k ground, along with vastly improving the commercial revenues if we ever going to compete at the absolute top level again.

Doing nothing is simply not an option unless we want to muddle along much like Everton are doing at the moment.
Agreed. I like your thinking.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: john e on June 24, 2019, 08:53:05 PM
some questions if you don’t mind

if you have bought a junior ST how and when do you go through the process of proof of age ?

When do you get the ST’s has anyone got there’s through the post yet ?

Sorry for my ignorance I have t been a ST holder since the days of MON





They will send you an e-mail asking you to provide verification of the dob and you can e-mail it into them, new season tickets wont be sent out until the end of July the TO told me
 

Thatís great thanks for that
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ads on June 25, 2019, 06:35:32 PM
Barcelona averaged 22,000 less than their capacity, yet they're spending Ä250m to add 13,500 extra seats that they'll only fill on occasion.

Their lowest crowd saw 56,000 empty seats.

Purpose isn't to say we're anything like Barca, but to back up the earlier claims and rubbish the idea of being embarrassed by empty seats.

Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 25, 2019, 06:39:50 PM
I thought they were only adding about 5k to the capacity, most of the cost is putting a roof on. At least I think that's what was in the article I read a few weeks back.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Lastfootstamper on June 25, 2019, 07:04:46 PM
Why 3 seasons? Why not 5? 2? 10?

Last season there was 16,000 match day tickets available for home support  per game and as has been the case in every season before, no fundamental need for a season ticket, as supply exists in good quantities.

Now there are 8,000, including players tickets, Lion Clubs, competition winners and the like. Less than 150,000 available match tickets over the season as opposed to 304,000.

That hugely increases the need for a season ticket, increases demand that for the first time perhaps ever, Villa Park will not meet.

What would any big company do with their product? Twiddle their thumbs and see how it goes apparently, while making sure there's only 2 children in the shop at any given time.

Surely, surely, this is exactly what Edens and Sawiris hoped would happen when they took over, that demand would stress supply almost immediately? I can't think they're not licking their lips at this situation.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: f1sav on June 25, 2019, 07:28:51 PM
I do enjoy all this optimism and I thank God we're in a position to talk like so.

However, is anyone else struggling to read this narrative of "let's go for it and spend X on this new stand" and then in transfer thread read "we should never spend X on a league Y player" ?

Hopefully things will progress in the right way on both fronts.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: ChicagoLion on June 25, 2019, 07:41:28 PM
I thought it was just me who hated the North Stand.
I would like to think that the planning is going on now so at least we are Prepared.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Lastfootstamper on June 25, 2019, 07:46:15 PM
I do enjoy all this optimism and I thank God we're in a position to talk like so.

However, is anyone else struggling to read this narrative of "let's go for it and spend X on this new stand" and then in transfer thread read "we should never spend X on a league Y player" ?

Hopefully things will progress in the right way on both fronts.

I believe that we should have a modern ground befitting of our historical standing, and spend the going rate for players of quality. Isn't it a Villa invention, such profligacy in the name of football?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: f1sav on June 25, 2019, 08:06:00 PM
I do enjoy all this optimism and I thank God we're in a position to talk like so.

However, is anyone else struggling to read this narrative of "let's go for it and spend X on this new stand" and then in transfer thread read "we should never spend X on a league Y player" ?

Hopefully things will progress in the right way on both fronts.

I believe that we should have a modern ground befitting of our historical standing, and spend the going rate for players of quality. Isn't it a Villa invention, such profligacy in the name of football?

Yes, I personally agree.

I was just remarking on the sometimes disconnect that appears on here. Go to the transfer thread, many on there are stuck quoting transfer fees that no longer exist...that was more my point.

Some seem happy for owners to spend trillions on the right sleeve colour, new badge, and hopefully better place to play, but seem offended when today's going rate gets mentioned for player X.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: brentastonb6 on June 25, 2019, 11:03:14 PM
I thought it was just me who hated the North Stand.
I would like to think that the planning is going on now so at least we are Prepared.
Correct answer on both fronts! North Stand rebuild and Prepared back on our badge please
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: cdbullyweefan on June 25, 2019, 11:05:34 PM
I wouldn't mind sticking something like the old Trinity Road lion gable on any potential new stand. Something to make it stand out rather than just another lego stand like the Witton Lane.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ads on June 26, 2019, 12:04:21 AM
I thought they were only adding about 5k to the capacity, most of the cost is putting a roof on. At least I think that's what was in the article I read a few weeks back.

New plans submitted I believe. The original 5k also involved selling the other stadium next door and has been aborted about 3 times.

The whole ground is getting a re-furb, they're putting another tier on and a roof. Theres a snazzy video floating about on YouTube with the design and build cycle.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: eamonn on June 26, 2019, 12:16:28 AM
How is the atmosphere at the Camp Nou for run of the mill games, does anyone know? Given their dominance of the Spanish league, it doesn't appear to impinge on their results too much. Might be a different thing for us though. The noise and atmosphere generated by British football crowds is commonly cited as unique by foreign players playing here. The best thing O'Neill did at Villa was putting home support behind the goal at the North Stand end. As has been said, Villa Park three quarters full can be a sad place, I'd hate to see that effect multiplied. If we did expand, filling in some corners to contain the atmosphere and maybe leaving higher tiers closed for unpopular fixtures might help, I guess.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Kimaster1976 on June 26, 2019, 07:26:50 AM
The smart thing to have done would have been to arrange some kind of deal with the future rebuilt Alexander Stadium so we move in there for a year starting 2022 while Villa Park gets 2 new stands built and everything in and around the stadium is sorted properly rather than a rush job or just bits and pieces at a time.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Chris Smith on June 26, 2019, 08:27:47 AM
Does anyone have any experience of the relocation day? I only want to move one seat to the left, one of the three of us couldnít renew and his ticket was in the middle. How busy does it get, is there any benefit in getting there half an hour early?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: thick_mike on June 26, 2019, 08:32:17 AM
Letís reinstate the old Witton End; dirt bank, terracing, Bovril kiosk and all.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: chrisw1 on June 26, 2019, 09:13:30 AM
The smart thing to have done would have been to arrange some kind of deal with the future rebuilt Alexander Stadium so we move in there for a year starting 2022 while Villa Park gets 2 new stands built and everything in and around the stadium is sorted properly rather than a rush job or just bits and pieces at a time.
I dislike the Witton stand as much as anyone and the concourses are an absolute joke.  But I'm not sure how we can rebuild it any bigger when we are restricted by the road and houses behind it?

For me the long term vision should to be a horse shoe Trinity, North, Witton facing the mighty Holte (yes a larger single tier would be nice, but it's not a priority given the rest of the ground).  I know some don't like corners filled in but if we want capacity maximised I don't see how we can avoid it.  As for air flow for the pitch, whilst it would restrict it the majority of modern stadia around the world have the corners filled in and seem to manage.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Pat Mustard on June 26, 2019, 11:20:47 AM
The smart thing to have done would have been to arrange some kind of deal with the future rebuilt Alexander Stadium so we move in there for a year starting 2022 while Villa Park gets 2 new stands built and everything in and around the stadium is sorted properly rather than a rush job or just bits and pieces at a time.
I dislike the Witton stand as much as anyone and the concourses are an absolute joke.  But I'm not sure how we can rebuild it any bigger when we are restricted by the road and houses behind it?

For me the long term vision should to be a horse shoe Trinity, North, Witton facing the mighty Holte (yes a larger single tier would be nice, but it's not a priority given the rest of the ground).  I know some don't like corners filled in but if we want capacity maximised I don't see how we can avoid it.  As for air flow for the pitch, whilst it would restrict it the majority of modern stadia around the world have the corners filled in and seem to manage.

I think a properly designed Witton Lane stand could probably have an additional 1500-2000 seats without too much difficulty.  Thanks to the cheapskate way Ellis went about building it in the first place, the front row of the stand could be move forward by 2-3 metres, and then designed together with an overhanging second tier you could probably get quite a few more rows in the current footprint.  I'm sure it could be designed with a better roof using modern materials as well to help with the right to light issues, so potentially the seating area could go a bit higher.

Any significant increase in overall capacity would though mean having more of a horseshoe design.  If we did all of this you could probably get to a comfortable capacity in the mid 50k range, which I think would be about right in the long-term.  As to when we do it, that will always be a risk.  I would say, however, that despite what figures they report, clubs like Arsenal and Man City are not filling their grounds every week so I don't think we should beat ourselves up about having empty seats at some games - a properly designed stadium could help with the atmosphere anyway.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ad@m on June 26, 2019, 12:21:40 PM
How is the atmosphere at the Camp Nou for run of the mill games, does anyone know?

Absolutely crap.

I was there a few years ago for a game against one of the perrenial strugglers in La Liga - Rayo Vallecano or someone like that - spoke to a "member" on the metro over there before the game and asked him what he thought the result would be.  "Four or five nil" came the response, completely matter-of-factly.

Barca won 3-0 in the end.  Messi scored 2.  And the crowd sat there in near silence (except for the 30 seconds after each goal) just waiting for and expecting the inevitable thrashing to be dished out.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on June 26, 2019, 01:26:58 PM
Does anyone have any experience of the relocation day? I only want to move one seat to the left, one of the three of us couldnít renew and his ticket was in the middle. How busy does it get, is there any benefit in getting there half an hour early?


Iíve only relocated over the phone which was pretty easy and probably the easiest way for you too as you already know what you want. 
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: shipscat on June 26, 2019, 02:37:52 PM
Does anyone have any experience of the relocation day? I only want to move one seat to the left, one of the three of us couldnít renew and his ticket was in the middle. How busy does it get, is there any benefit in getting there half an hour early?

I posted earlier with regard to my son's similar dilemma.

We got in touch with the ticket office, and they were happy to move his friend from the Holte to the North under the provision that we got written, signed permission from the original seat holder that he wasn't renewing.

Maybe worth trying a similar approach
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Chris Smith on June 26, 2019, 03:07:35 PM
Does anyone have any experience of the relocation day? I only want to move one seat to the left, one of the three of us couldnít renew and his ticket was in the middle. How busy does it get, is there any benefit in getting there half an hour early?

I posted earlier with regard to my son's similar dilemma.

We got in touch with the ticket office, and they were happy to move his friend from the Holte to the North under the provision that we got written, signed permission from the original seat holder that he wasn't renewing.

Maybe worth trying a similar approach

Thanks, Iíll give them a call tomorrow.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: The Edge on June 26, 2019, 04:27:07 PM
The smart thing to have done would have been to arrange some kind of deal with the future rebuilt Alexander Stadium so we move in there for a year starting 2022 while Villa Park gets 2 new stands built and everything in and around the stadium is sorted properly rather than a rush job or just bits and pieces at a time.
Totally agree with you. A long term strategy for development is essential. For now a total rebuild of the North stand is vital. It's one of the worst "ends" in the premier league and no longer befitting our status as a top flight club. A shiny new stand holding 11/12,000 should be a straightforward task adding 4/5000 to the capacity without the need to fill in the corners. This would give Villa Park a much needed facelift and bring the capacity to around 47,000. It's a total no brainer for me. In the long term the stadium infrastructure and facilities can be addressed by proper careful planning.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: LeeB on June 26, 2019, 07:37:05 PM
I would like to see us expand and accept the North Stand is in the firing line, but I don't get the hate for it, I think it's a brutalist masterpiece.

Plus hardly anyone was building stands in that area, it's kind of unique.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: The Edge on June 26, 2019, 09:38:30 PM
I would like to see us expand and accept the North Stand is in the firing line, but I don't get the hate for it, I think it's a brutalist masterpiece.

Plus hardly anyone was building stands in that area, it's kind of unique.
The goalpost design was groundbreaking at the time but that was in the 70's. Things have moved on a tad since. The facilities are appalling and leg room is horrendous. The view however from the upper section is pretty damn good. But looking at it from the outside with the grubby rough finish to the concrete and those dark red window frames it just looks horrible. A brutalist masterpiece you say, surely thats a contradiction in terms? Only kidding each to their own and all that but in my view it had its day 25 years ago.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: eamonn on June 26, 2019, 09:55:37 PM
It's fairly brutal alright.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: AV82EC on June 27, 2019, 10:38:28 AM
The design of the North stand lasted about 10 years tops before it looked dated. In some ways it is iconic as Iím struggling to think of many others like it but it should be pulled down and buried in our history. Iíve sat in it I think three times in my supporting life and it makes the Witton Lane stand seem luxurious itís that bad.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on June 27, 2019, 10:54:39 AM
I would like to see us expand and accept the North Stand is in the firing line, but I don't get the hate for it, I think it's a brutalist masterpiece.

Plus hardly anyone was building stands in that area, it's kind of unique.

I'm with you. It was the blueprint for so many other clubs' stands and led the way in may aspects of stadium design - The "AV" lettering in the seats was the first at a football ground, double decker executive boxes were a first, the "goal post" design. Within a few years of it being built, similar design aspects from the North stand seemed to spring up all over the country - Forest, Sheffield United, Spurs.....

It's small, cramped and out dated but when it's gone, it's gone forever.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ads on June 27, 2019, 12:16:16 PM
Good, its shit.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: VILLA MOLE on June 27, 2019, 12:43:41 PM
I would like us to do something with the back of the Trinity.  All that metal sheeting is

so ugly .  Surely we could replace this with images of players and managers of the

past .  but in almost like a silver foil format, as they do with the coins??   
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: The Edge on June 27, 2019, 08:40:15 PM
Good, its shit.
Good point well made
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: john e on June 27, 2019, 08:51:34 PM
I would like to see us expand and accept the North Stand is in the firing line, but I don't get the hate for it, I think it's a brutalist masterpiece.

Plus hardly anyone was building stands in that area, it's kind of unique.

Itís a Picasso in a world full of Constableís
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Davkaus on June 27, 2019, 10:54:07 PM
I appreciate beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but sadly it's not just something we just look at; people pay to sit in it, and it's an absolute dump.

The facade is ugly but that's trivial really, it's the shocking state of the concourses and toilets that bother me.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Risso on June 27, 2019, 10:56:16 PM
There's nothing good about it at all.  It looks terrible from the outside of the ground, and the facilities inside are awful.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: West Derby Villan on June 28, 2019, 12:09:50 AM
I remember saying "it was nice" when it was built but my memory's not that good so I could have been mistaken
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: wittonwarrior on June 28, 2019, 03:08:13 AM
To be fair it looked the bees when first built. The major issues though have been :

1. Extremely poor access with the corridor at the back of the lower Witton Road
2. The introduction of seats - the stand was built similar to the Stoke End at Victoria Park or the Scoreboard at OT

Turned out not be such a success, along the same lines as the new clock end at Highbury or the rebuilt Platt Lane at Maine Road.  Still a better stand though than the Park End at Goodison or the Anfield Road at the dippers.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: eamonn on June 28, 2019, 08:59:46 AM
I remember saying "it was nice" when it was built but my memory's not that good so I could have been mistaken

Lulz, sounds like something from a meme.

Can BE come up with a new hybrid thread title to be used seeing as those wanting season-ticket holder info will be frustrated by the more interesting stadium redevelopment talk?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: ChicagoLion on June 28, 2019, 10:32:59 AM
There's nothing good about it at all.  It looks terrible from the outside of the ground, and the facilities inside are awful.
Yes itís also a complete waste of the space available.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Axl Rose on June 28, 2019, 04:05:43 PM
Are we getting a museum/hotel or something along those lines?

Apologies if posted elsewhere.

https://www.waste of paper.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/revealed-more-details-aston-villas-16503309
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ads on June 29, 2019, 10:21:21 AM
Been on hold for 20 odd minutes trying to move my lad's seat closer to us. Guessing there wont be too many season ticketseft after today.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: London Villan on June 29, 2019, 10:28:19 AM
Waited in hour in the queue and got to move to the seat i wanted. Job done
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ads on June 29, 2019, 10:28:54 AM
And they've just cut me off.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ads on June 29, 2019, 10:39:25 AM
And again after another 10 minutes on hold.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: London Villan on June 29, 2019, 10:47:34 AM
Itís frustrating. Im guessing you couldnít get down there today?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Chris Smith on June 29, 2019, 11:23:14 AM
And again after another 10 minutes on hold.

Same here, anyone any idea what the queue is like at the ground?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ads on June 29, 2019, 12:28:01 PM
I'm on an endless cycle of 10 minutes hold and being cut off when it starts ringing. This is a tad frustrating.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Chris Smith on June 29, 2019, 12:42:30 PM
I'm on an endless cycle of 10 minutes hold and being cut off when it starts ringing. This is a tad frustrating.

Twice now I have got to the menu options only for it to go dead once I have navigated through.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ads on June 29, 2019, 12:53:04 PM
Yeah same. Tella you to put your Fan ID in and the just goes silent for a time and then cuts you off. Pretty poor stuff this.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 29, 2019, 01:47:26 PM
This is a fucking shambles.

Has anyone got through?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ads on June 29, 2019, 02:26:32 PM
Yeah fiiiiiiinally sorted moving my boy's seat.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: john e on June 29, 2019, 02:44:27 PM
Iím not trying to relocate

but I have had that being cut if thing itís infuriating
sometimes you can be holding for 20 mins then just dead

the one time I managed to get through the lady in the ticket office said yeah we have been having problems think its the new phone system

it ainít good enough
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Chris Smith on June 29, 2019, 03:37:18 PM
Finally! Gave up this morning but just tried again and got straight through.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: j66acd on June 30, 2019, 09:51:02 PM
Has anyone who is on the waiting list had the email yet saying they can buy? Checked profile on the ticketing site and it says season ticket waiting list 27793 so hopefully that means Iím in with a chance.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Toronto Villa on June 30, 2019, 11:40:21 PM
Can you guys not email Nicky Keye or the General about this stuff?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Villafirst on July 01, 2019, 05:46:51 AM
The club really needs to sort this out. It was poor that you couldn't renew your ST several weeks after the play-off final. It's the poor communication that really annoys people, there's no excuse for that and no way to treat paying customers.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Dazvillain on July 01, 2019, 10:13:05 AM
On the negative side of poor comms, given the waiting list and 30,000 sold hype of previous week youíd have thought they would be tweeting celebrating new records set by now
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ads on July 01, 2019, 10:47:07 AM
The waiting list has to buy the season tickets first.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Villa75 on July 01, 2019, 11:17:54 AM
The club really needs to sort this out. It was poor that you couldn't renew your ST several weeks after the play-off final. It's the poor communication that really annoys people, there's no excuse for that and no way to treat paying customers.



It's all Doug's fault.

It will all be much better when he's gone.

Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Border villan on July 01, 2019, 11:21:14 AM
This would not have happened under Steve Bruce. All season ticket holders would be ďthere or there aboutĒ for next season.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Confusious says on July 01, 2019, 12:22:00 PM
Relocated mine from Doug Ellis to Trinity Rd I must say that the staff in the ticket office have been great, the temp close down in ticket office was obviously to get the prices changed from early bird to prem. How nice it is to see the upsurge in support & fans returning now we are up,
the potential for sell outs is there letís hope we can stay up & the club will have to seriously consider expanding the capacity
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Villafirst on July 01, 2019, 01:07:19 PM
The club really needs to sort this out. It was poor that you couldn't renew your ST several weeks after the play-off final. It's the poor communication that really annoys people, there's no excuse for that and no way to treat paying customers.



It's all Doug's fault.

It will all be much better when he's gone.



You're obviously not a ST holder
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 01, 2019, 01:11:17 PM
This would not have happened under Steve Bruce. All season ticket holders would be ďthere or there aboutĒ for next season.

"That's the championship" *wistful look*
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 01, 2019, 09:57:54 PM
So, what is the situation now?

Relocation day is done, so all holders from last season who renewed (early bird or not) are done, I take it they will start selling them now until they get to 30k?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: chrisw1 on July 02, 2019, 08:08:44 AM
I guess they start contacting people on the waiting list?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Dazvillain on July 02, 2019, 11:14:17 AM
Probably but would be nice if we all knew if the magic 30k had been hit. Just another poor or delayed comms reaction....

Unless weíre concentrating on a player announcement every day for a week 😳
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: charleeco7 on July 02, 2019, 11:39:55 AM
I popped into the ticket office today, the lady was helpful but a bit vague. All she could say was she thought the those on the waiting list would hear fairly soon and that if you got on the list early enough you should get one. If youíd signed up over the last few days you probably wouldnít
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: mike on July 02, 2019, 02:32:25 PM
Just a quick warning about memberships. Last year, I bought my son a Cub membership and I was able to buy both of us (and sometimes his sister) a ticket on his membership but it is now strictly one member one ticket. The club should make it that you can only buy a Cub membership if it's linked to a Claret membership. I've now paid £35 for a Clarets membership... and I don't even get a birthday card like my children do.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: j66acd on July 02, 2019, 04:18:57 PM
I signed up to the waiting list the day it was announced and my profile on the ticketing site has me listed as 27793, so hopefully I will hear soon. I added my wife and son yesterday and thereí numbers are a lot higher around the 34000 mark.. So if the numbers on the site relate to where you are on the list then I reckon Iíve got a chance of getting one.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ads on July 02, 2019, 04:54:43 PM
The waiting list outstrips supply by some margin.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 03, 2019, 09:12:23 AM
If you go to the OS, click through to tickets then season tickets to the page where you put yourself into the waiting list, it actually says how many seats are available (assume these are the seats people on the list are in effect queueing up to buy)

Currently says 1,167. This figure is updated as it was 1,175 when I spotted it last night.

Suggests 28,833 sold thus far.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on July 03, 2019, 12:52:50 PM
I donít suppose anyone could post the ST prices from the early bird window (before the recent price increase) could they please?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Lastfootstamper on July 03, 2019, 01:13:47 PM
Early Bird prices (https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2019/02/15/season-tickets-2019-20-launch)
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Towser on July 03, 2019, 02:02:13 PM
Now open for purchase to the first 1k who registered their interest, this window closes in 5 days.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: chrisw1 on July 03, 2019, 02:16:49 PM
Now open for purchase to the first 1k who registered their interest, this window closes in 5 days.
I think that's a sensible way of dealing with it.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on July 03, 2019, 02:53:22 PM
Early Bird prices (https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2019/02/15/season-tickets-2019-20-launch)

Thanks
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ads on July 03, 2019, 03:27:02 PM
If you go to the OS, click through to tickets then season tickets to the page where you put yourself into the waiting list, it actually says how many seats are available (assume these are the seats people on the list are in effect queueing up to buy)

Currently says 1,167. This figure is updated as it was 1,175 when I spotted it last night.

Suggests 28,833 sold thus far.

You're more or less spot on Paulie. They've announced they're opening it to the first 1000 fans on the waiting list.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ger Regan on July 03, 2019, 04:01:19 PM
What's the story with non-season tickets? Assuming 30,000 ST's are sold, how are the remaining 9,000-odd home seats batched?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ads on July 03, 2019, 05:21:38 PM
There's only 8,000 and that includes the players tickets and competition winners.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: spangley1812 on July 03, 2019, 05:28:15 PM
Members will get 1st dibs......Ö.

There will be minimal available on a match day IMO
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ads on July 03, 2019, 05:50:34 PM
Sounds like we need a bigger ground...
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 03, 2019, 05:52:07 PM
Quite.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 03, 2019, 06:03:48 PM
More than anything, we need a strong squad and a good team.

Flip side of much bigger crowds = much bigger expectations!
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: chrisw1 on July 03, 2019, 06:07:27 PM
I think the demand for tickets will cool down once the realities of the PL kick back in.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 03, 2019, 06:08:39 PM
And will rise further when we're 10 points clear at the top at Christmas.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: LukeJames on July 03, 2019, 06:11:03 PM
I think the demand for tickets will cool down once the realities of the PL kick back in.

That was pretty much said about the novelty of the Championship wearing off aswell.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ads on July 03, 2019, 06:25:42 PM
And will rise further when we're 10 points clear at the top at Christmas.

Too right. Have that O'Leary.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Lastfootstamper on July 03, 2019, 07:55:42 PM
Sounds like we need a bigger ground...
Quite.
I draw parallels with the NFL, and now with MLB. If you want to grow, despite telly, paying punters have to be able to watch you play in the flesh.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: charleeco7 on July 03, 2019, 09:39:35 PM
Got mine and the lads today we were queue 27340 ish in the waiting list so Iím guessing there was about 3000 tickets left when they stopped selling and opened the waiting list.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: purpletrousers on July 03, 2019, 11:48:22 PM
Are some stands totally gone, how does it work out, a proportion of seats held back in every stand?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Lastfootstamper on July 04, 2019, 12:46:04 AM
Are some stands totally gone, how does it work out, a proportion of seats held back in every stand?

No, it'll simply be a set number of people allowed to buy any available seat in any block they wish. I can't imagine any seats anywhere being available/unavailable.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: charleeco7 on July 04, 2019, 06:08:51 AM
Are some stands totally gone, how does it work out, a proportion of seats held back in every stand?

No stands are sold out yet but plenty of sections within them are.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: sid1964 on July 04, 2019, 06:37:10 AM
I should imagine that there will be quite a few games where we fail to sell out, I agree with Chrisw1, if we lose a few on the bounce then crowds and interest will drop.

Last season until the appointment of Smith crowds were starting to drop.

It will be interesting to see if there is still a waiting list for season tickets - next summer?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ads on July 04, 2019, 07:30:50 AM
Crowds didn't drop under Smith during the poor run in the 2md division.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: AV82EC on July 04, 2019, 08:21:18 AM
Crowds didn't drop under Smith during the poor run in the 2md division.

There was a bit of grumbling around me here and there in L3 and one bloke had a total screaming meltdown near us about 4-4-2 after the 2-2 with Hull but most people whilst wearily resigning themselves to another season in the 2nd tier kept positive I felt despite results.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: The Edge on July 04, 2019, 08:26:04 AM
I think the demand for tickets will cool down once the realities of the PL kick back in.
And when we lose the first ten Deano will get the sack. Once the crowds dwindle it will be easier to get an overpriced pie at half time.The new owners will get fed up and sell the ground to a scrap metal dealers.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: chrisw1 on July 04, 2019, 08:32:28 AM
I think the demand for tickets will cool down once the realities of the PL kick back in.
And when we lose the first ten Deano will get the sack. Once the crowds dwindle it will be easier to get an overpriced pie at half time.The new owners will get fed up and sell the ground to a scrap metal dealers.
I sense your sarcasm here.  Itís just a personal opinion, may be right may be wrong but I canít recall us selling out for any sustained period  in the Ellis or Lerner years before relegation and would be quite surprised if we do once normality kicks back in.

Obviously if we have huge success quickly that will change things.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: chrisw1 on July 05, 2019, 12:57:25 PM
If you go to the OS, click through to tickets then season tickets to the page where you put yourself into the waiting list, it actually says how many seats are available (assume these are the seats people on the list are in effect queueing up to buy)

Currently says 1,167. This figure is updated as it was 1,175 when I spotted it last night.

Suggests 28,833 sold thus far.
Currently saying 943 available.  So 224 of the first 1,000 on the waiting list have followed up with a purchase.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: The Edge on July 05, 2019, 03:01:40 PM
I think the demand for tickets will cool down once the realities of the PL kick back in.
And when we lose the first ten Deano will get the sack. Once the crowds dwindle it will be easier to get an overpriced pie at half time.The new owners will get fed up and sell the ground to a scrap metal dealers.
I sense your sarcasm here.  Itís just a personal opinion, may be right may be wrong but I canít recall us selling out for any sustained period  in the Ellis or Lerner years before relegation and would be quite surprised if we do once normality kicks back in.

Obviously if we have huge success quickly that will change things.
Fine. But my opinion is i don't understand why anyone would want to put a dampner on the current wave of optimism.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: chrisw1 on July 05, 2019, 03:30:47 PM
Well people were discussing the long term availability of match day tickets and the merits of extending the stadium.  The comment was made in that context, not just to piss on your optimism.  I can assure you no one will be happier than me if were challenging for top 6 in the next two seasons and selling out every game.  I just think it more likely that once we've settled back in there will be generally tickets available for those who want them.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Lastfootstamper on July 05, 2019, 03:43:02 PM
I honestly hope not, chrisw1. If it does start to happen, for me it'll seem that once more, other clubs are leaving us trailing off the pitch.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: The Edge on July 05, 2019, 06:28:19 PM
Well people were discussing the long term availability of match day tickets and the merits of extending the stadium.  The comment was made in that context, not just to piss on your optimism.  I can assure you no one will be happier than me if were challenging for top 6 in the next two seasons and selling out every game.  I just think it more likely that once we've settled back in there will be generally tickets available for those who want them.
Don't you think theres something different about the current set up? Aren't you excited by events happening in B6? We now have extremely wealthy owners. Fantastic backroom team with Purslow & Pitarch. A first team coach (not manager) and his assistants who want to play an attractive swashbuckling style of football. Theres something in the air this time around and "settling  back in" won't cut it.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: j66acd on July 05, 2019, 06:36:50 PM
If you go to the OS, click through to tickets then season tickets to the page where you put yourself into the waiting list, it actually says how many seats are available (assume these are the seats people on the list are in effect queueing up to buy)

Currently says 1,167. This figure is updated as it was 1,175 when I spotted it last night.

Suggests 28,833 sold thus far.
Currently saying 943 available.  So 224 of the first 1,000 on the waiting list have followed up with a purchase.

That number should be a lot higher but the website doesnít work and itís almost impossible to get through to the ticket office.

I reckon there will be a big queue at the ticket office tomorrow.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: ChicagoLion on July 05, 2019, 06:50:12 PM
Can someone explain how you buy and sell unused season tickets
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: AV82EC on July 05, 2019, 07:24:48 PM
Can someone explain how you buy and sell unused season tickets

I donít think itís been announced yet.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: UK Redsox on July 09, 2019, 11:33:35 AM
Can someone explain how you buy and sell unused season tickets

For the last couple of seasons, people in my area have just passed season cards around if they can't make games* and not asked for money. Only really works if you know people pretty well.

If there's an official re-sale system in place for this season, it'll be interesting to see if that continues. We're in a prime spot behind the dugout, so tickets should be popular online

(* apart from one bloke who only turns up for around half the matches. He never seems to pass his ticket on to anyone)
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: ChicagoLion on July 09, 2019, 11:47:21 AM
Can someone explain how you buy and sell unused season tickets

For the last couple of seasons, people in my area have just passed season cards around if they can't make games* and not asked for money. Only really works if you know people pretty well.

If there's an official re-sale system in place for this season, it'll be interesting to see if that continues. We're in a prime spot behind the dugout, so tickets should be popular online

(* apart from one bloke who only turns up for around half the matches. He never seems to pass his ticket on to anyone)
I am expecting to be in the UK more often but know that there are many times that I wonít. So I thought if I buy a ticket  I can get some money back for the games I miss.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: exigo on July 09, 2019, 12:04:59 PM
Be interesting to see if there's a limit on the number of games you can resell.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Dazvillain on July 09, 2019, 12:11:35 PM
Any updates as to how far off 30,000 we are yet after the second 1000 on waiting list were given access ?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: chrisw1 on July 09, 2019, 02:13:10 PM
Any updates as to how far off 30,000 we are yet after the second 1000 on waiting list were given access ?
700
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 09, 2019, 02:17:22 PM
Can someone explain how you buy and sell unused season tickets

For the last couple of seasons, people in my area have just passed season cards around if they can't make games* and not asked for money. Only really works if you know people pretty well.

If there's an official re-sale system in place for this season, it'll be interesting to see if that continues. We're in a prime spot behind the dugout, so tickets should be popular online

(* apart from one bloke who only turns up for around half the matches. He never seems to pass his ticket on to anyone)

You could always get around the resale thing anyway.

When i couldn't make a game, I'd pass my ticket onto someone at work, more often that not by ringing the Ticket Office and asking for it be disabled for that game and a print at home ticket emailed to me instead.

Theoretically, I could (although it would have infinged terms and conditions) have flogged it.

None of which addresses your point, so I don't really know why i am blathering about it

I seem to remember the last time we had an official re-sale partner, the money you'd get for your seat was so piss poor, it was barely worth the hassle getting it listed.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: exiled on the wirral! on July 09, 2019, 02:55:53 PM
Starting to sell fast now under 600 left.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ads on July 09, 2019, 03:07:04 PM
So circa 29.5k sold?

More session ticket holders than the Noses, Small Heath and even Wim Massive Wanderers have had home support in their grounds in 40 odd years.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: chrisw1 on July 09, 2019, 03:08:15 PM
Starting to sell fast now under 600 left.
Which is pretty excellent - nearly 29,500 sold and will probably hit 30,000 in next few days.  Still some very good seats left too, even in the Holte.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 09, 2019, 03:09:53 PM
Starting to sell fast now under 600 left.

I don't think that figure on that page is correct, actually, having looked at it a bit more. Shortly after i posted about it, i noticed it fluctuated both down and up, so I wouldn't pay too much attention to it.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: bjfoster on July 09, 2019, 03:14:05 PM
Starting to sell fast now under 600 left.
Which is pretty excellent - nearly 29,500 sold and will probably hit 30,000 in next few days.  Still some very good seats left too, even in the Holte.

How can you see what seats are left?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: chrisw1 on July 09, 2019, 03:18:04 PM
Starting to sell fast now under 600 left.
Which is pretty excellent - nearly 29,500 sold and will probably hit 30,000 in next few days.  Still some very good seats left too, even in the Holte.

How can you see what seats are left?
Click on register your interest for season ticket waiting list on this page and at the top it says how many available (currently 532) - although not sure if accurate given Paulie's comment above.

https://tickets.avfc.co.uk/subscriptions
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: exiled on the wirral! on July 09, 2019, 03:31:38 PM
Whatever the figure it's great to see..what a time to be alive!!
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Bren'd on July 09, 2019, 03:39:57 PM
Given that there's a waiting list of 'x' thousands and only 700 odd available, why wouldn't all those available be snapped up pretty much immediately?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: chrisw1 on July 09, 2019, 03:40:55 PM
Starting to sell fast now under 600 left.

I don't think that figure on that page is correct, actually, having looked at it a bit more. Shortly after i posted about it, i noticed it fluctuated both down and up, so I wouldn't pay too much attention to it.
I think it's fluctuating with people putting them in their baskets but not completing for whatever reason.  That's my guess anyway.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Chipsticks on July 09, 2019, 03:45:24 PM
As a non-ST holder, are any of the stands looking completely sold out with STs at this point?

I have a claret membership but I'm wondering if I'll be able to get into the Holte this season.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: chrisw1 on July 09, 2019, 04:01:43 PM
As a non-ST holder, are any of the stands looking completely sold out with STs at this point?

I have a claret membership but I'm wondering if I'll be able to get into the Holte this season.
There's still quite a few left on the Hote
k3 - 57
K4 - 32
K5 - 42
K2 & K6 - both over 80
scattering of seats in the lower too.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: purpletrousers on July 09, 2019, 04:24:50 PM
1401 email

ďWe've opened up our Season Ticket waiting list to the first 3000 fans who were registered - if you're reading this, then you're one of them!Ē

1420 got for me and dad (via some mid baby photo shoot disagreement about cost, and grief for being on my phone, apparently time sensitive doesnít cut it!). First time since the 80s weíve had STs. Happy man :)
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: chrisw1 on July 09, 2019, 04:55:11 PM
Back up to 633 now. I suspect most people on the waiting list who actually want a ticket will get one.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: lukey27 on July 09, 2019, 05:25:59 PM
I was in the waiting list for the extra 2000 that were released today and managed to get two together in the Lower Holte.

Do they keep tickets back in each stand for matchday sales, because at this rate any non-season ticket holder will really struggle to get any ticket at all in the Holte week to week next year.

The thought for me of not being able to get a ticket in the Holte was a driving force in me getting a season ticket. I stood with my dad in the Holte when first coming to watch the Villa and had a season ticket for 15+ years in the stand but circumstance and becoming a dad myself had meant I have just been going to 10 odd games a season for the last four [but always the Holte End]

Considering they have different matchday prices, for all stands, it would be a real shame if people on an individual match basis only essentially have the choice of two side stands and not have the opportunity to sit in the Holte End [if this is where they wanted to sit].
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: KRS on July 09, 2019, 05:29:42 PM
As a non-ST holder, are any of the stands looking completely sold out with STs at this point?

I have a claret membership but I'm wondering if I'll be able to get into the Holte this season.
There's still quite a few left on the Hote
k3 - 57
K4 - 32
K5 - 42
K2 & K6 - both over 80
scattering of seats in the lower too.
Are they likely to allow the Holte to completely sell out to season ticket holders or hold back a few thousand seats for those who can't commit to a season ticket? I'll be getting claret membership but would be nice to know that I have at least some chance of getting a seat in the Holte.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: chrisw1 on July 09, 2019, 09:28:05 PM
There's no way there will be a few thousand general sale seats in the Holte.  Right now the ground map is showing 220 left in the lower and 320 in the upper.  Loads left in the upper Trinity.

The waiting list page is showing 635 more season tickets available for purchase in total.  It was showing c1,180 when the first waiting list allocation was opened up and another 2,000 on the waiting list were allowed to buy from today (so the first 3,000 on the waiting list have had an opportunity to buy).   

I think the capping and creating the waiting list was excellent marketing by the club, I reckon it will have fuelled a lot of extra wavering renewals / new purchases.  I guess we'll just about get to the 30k cap (or thereabouts).
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: SoccerHQ on July 09, 2019, 09:36:05 PM
Holte was pretty much sold out for every game after xmas last year.

Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: purpletrousers on July 09, 2019, 11:31:22 PM

I think the capping and creating the waiting list was excellent marketing by the club, I reckon it will have fuelled a lot of extra wavering renewals / new purchases.  I guess we'll just about get to the 30k cap (or thereabouts).
Yep. I think taking it for granted that you can get a ticket has gone out of the window, the fear of demand exceeding supply augmenting the brave new world of DSís AV and a few players we genuinely love, together with a few life changes has certainly pushed me over the line.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: purpletrousers on July 10, 2019, 01:17:03 AM
Can someone explain how you buy and sell unused season tickets

For the last couple of seasons, people in my area have just passed season cards around if they can't make games* and not asked for money. Only really works if you know people pretty well.

If there's an official re-sale system in place for this season, it'll be interesting to see if that continues. We're in a prime spot behind the dugout, so tickets should be popular online

(* apart from one bloke who only turns up for around half the matches. He never seems to pass his ticket on to anyone)

You could always get around the resale thing anyway.

When i couldn't make a game, I'd pass my ticket onto someone at work, more often that not by ringing the Ticket Office and asking for it be disabled for that game and a print at home ticket emailed to me instead.

Theoretically, I could (although it would have infinged terms and conditions) have flogged it.

None of which addresses your point, so I don't really know why i am blathering about it

I seem to remember the last time we had an official re-sale partner, the money you'd get for your seat was so piss poor, it was barely worth the hassle getting it listed.

According to the FAQ 1/23rd of the ST value if they sell:
https://www.avfc.co.uk/Tickets/season-tickets/season-tickets-faqs

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Will I be able to sell my seat via a seat resale programme for games I cannot attend?
Supporters have the benefit of being able to sell their seat using the clubs seat resale programme for matches they are unable to attend.

Supporters can list tickets in advance and may receive 1/23rd of the cost of their season ticket back as a BACS payment subject to seat being resold.

More information will be communicated before the new season.

Which is a lot more helpful than the answer to the genuine question I had, eg before buying some stuff (glossing over the existential issue of what it is to *be* the ticket itself)

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Are there any additional benefits to being a season ticket?

There are many additional benefits of being a season ticket holder for 2019/20.
Right, thanks for that.
Anyone able to fill in the detail? (and donít just type yes ;)
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: alanclare on July 10, 2019, 07:40:16 AM
I apologise for ďbutting inĒ to this thread, but do we know when the season tickets are being sent out to us?

Alan
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: UK Redsox on July 10, 2019, 08:09:26 AM
I apologise for ďbutting inĒ to this thread, but do we know when the season tickets are being sent out to us?

Alan


If you had one last year, I think you just re-use the same card
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 10, 2019, 08:12:52 AM
I apologise for ďbutting inĒ to this thread, but do we know when the season tickets are being sent out to us?

Alan


If you had one last year, I think you just re-use the same card

Unless you've moved seat
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Lastfootstamper on July 10, 2019, 10:22:20 AM
I apologise for ďbutting inĒ to this thread, but do we know when the season tickets are being sent out to us?

Alan


"In July", was what I was told.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: alanclare on July 10, 2019, 01:16:19 PM
Thank you all who replied. I renewed in February, and you donít get any reassurance that everything is fine - and you do wonder. Computers and people are both fallible. It would appear that as Iím continuing in my old seat, my existing season ticket should work.

Alan
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: amfy on July 10, 2019, 01:45:45 PM
I was one of those wavering  who renewed because of the Ďwaiting listí.

I was just going to see how many games I actually got to this year (now that I live 130 miles away again) and get a season ticket again next year if it ended up being most of them.

I have now had to go the other way - get my season ticket this year and give it up next year if I am not really using it or itís becoming a chore.

I was also previously working on the basis that weíve always been able to get Wembley tickets for people on a 5 game booking history tops. With 30000 ST holders those days are gone!
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: andrew08 on July 10, 2019, 02:00:33 PM
Last year I was an away member and a home season ticket holder. I missed one away game and 3 home games. I would be certain there are new season ticket holders this year who have got tickets just to see the ĎBig Gamesí. How dare they use money to jump the queue for home tickets. Letís hope the club strip them of their tickets if they miss a few games and then tarnish the rest of the ST holders with the same brush😉

Or maybe they'll offer the same scheme for re selling to away members that season ticket holders have?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: ChicagoLion on July 10, 2019, 02:41:39 PM
Yes I can see the club doing that, maybe even sending stewards to eject them from their seats.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: chrisw1 on July 10, 2019, 05:36:45 PM
Last year I was an away member and a home season ticket holder. I missed one away game and 3 home games. I would be certain there are new season ticket holders this year who have got tickets just to see the ĎBig Gamesí. How dare they use money to jump the queue for home tickets. Letís hope the club strip them of their tickets if they miss a few games and then tarnish the rest of the ST holders with the same brush😉

Or maybe they'll offer the same scheme for re selling to away members that season ticket holders have?
I see what you're getting at there.  There will never be a consensus on the away ticket scheme but for me having a 'closed shop' cannot possibly be the answer, however great it is for those locked in.  It's a different scenario if you're bagsying one of 42,000 seats as opposed to one of 2,000 seats.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Dazvillain on July 15, 2019, 10:49:23 AM
On buying our claret memberships was told the packs would be delivered in 4 weeks but still nothing arrived, anyone else ?

Also quite a few clubs have tickets on sale for first home and away games and we havenít for either..... any ideas what is going on ?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: chrisw1 on July 15, 2019, 05:57:35 PM
Now saying only 92 seats left for the waiting list.  So we've just about done the 30k  Well played Villa.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Chipsticks on July 15, 2019, 06:00:41 PM
On buying our claret memberships was told the packs would be delivered in 4 weeks but still nothing arrived, anyone else ?

Also quite a few clubs have tickets on sale for first home and away games and we havenít for either..... any ideas what is going on ?

Haven't got my Claret membership either, though only bought 2 and a half weeks ago.

I think the club are still figuring out fair ways to cope with the excess ticketing demand. I don't mind giving them a bit more time to get it right, but hopefully we can get cracking in the next few weeks.

Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: chrisw1 on July 15, 2019, 06:08:39 PM
No away season ticket this year.  But those with most games last season get to buy first.

I think this has to be the most reasonable solution.  Will still be difficult for younger fans to build an away history though.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 15, 2019, 06:20:05 PM
Quote
ďThe club can now confirm plans for our away ticket sales for the upcoming 2019/20 season.

ďAfter consulting extensively with supporters Ė and also following a benchmarking process with other clubs Ė weíve made some changes.

ďUnder new procedures, in order to be fair, transparent and reward loyalty, away ticket criteria will be based on attendance at previous away games from the 2018/19 season as we also withdraw our away season ticket scheme.

ďThe new sales criteria will start at season ticket holders who attended 18+ away games last season all the way through to general sale, with 15+, 12+, 9+, Season Ticket Holders and Claret/Cub members in between.

ďThe first game of the season Ė away at Tottenham Hotspur Ė will go on sale next Thursday from 5pm online, subject to allocation and pricing being confirmed in the coming days by the host club.

ďWe appreciate that while this new policy rewards loyalty, it means that it also potentially makes it difficult for a lot of eager fans to attend big Premier League matches on the road.

ďTherefore, 25 pairs of away tickets for each top-flight game will be made available on Pride Rewards for supporters via a Prize Draw, starting with the clash against Mauricio Pochettinoís Spurs. Winners of the Prize Draw will then have the opportunity to purchase a pair of tickets.

ďWe understand that some fans will be disappointed there is no away season ticket scheme for this season but we believe this to be the fairest way to allocate away tickets to supporters who wish to follow us on the road.Ē
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: amfy on July 15, 2019, 06:29:14 PM
No away season ticket this year.  But those with most games last season get to buy first.

I think this has to be the most reasonable solution.  Will still be difficult for younger fans to build an away history though.

Not as difficult as it was before when people who were on a Ďschemeí took all the tickets whether they were going or not and just passed/sold them on if they werenít.

No away scheme is definitely the best solution. Those that go to all the games have clear priority. Those who go to most of them are next, and then those half a dozen games that those who go to most games donít go to, are freed up for the more casual away fans.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ads on July 15, 2019, 06:58:08 PM
Does this make Bournemouth a lottery now?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Astonite on July 15, 2019, 07:16:41 PM
Love the asumption that people in the away schem used to buy tickets and sell them on and non away scheme members never did that in order to retain a high away ticket status.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: amfy on July 15, 2019, 07:39:41 PM
Love the asumption that people in the away schem used to buy tickets and sell them on and non away scheme members never did that in order to retain a high away ticket status.

Loads of people on the away scheme went to all of the games, many more went to nearly all of them.

Not having an away scheme doesnít actually PREVENT people maintaining a history by passing tickets on, but thereís a pretty good chance it reduces the likelihood against what happens when tickets just land in your mat. If you are in a scheme that prevents you returning more than 4 sets of tickets that are routinely sent out to you, & the demand is there, then you are far more likely to pass them on to someone you know, or sell them to someone you donít, than return them. Simple human nature.

......& itís not an assumption - for at least 2 seasons before I queue jumped with the barmy away scheme last year, the only way I ever got to an away game was getting my tickets passed on to me by people in the away scheme who werenít going!
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: AV82EC on July 15, 2019, 07:41:54 PM
Well said amfy and absolutely the correct decision by the club.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: cheltenhamlion on July 15, 2019, 07:44:49 PM
I am deliberately a member of about 20 Lions clubs just in case for away tickets!
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: wittonwarrior on July 15, 2019, 08:02:11 PM
Love the asumption that people in the away schem used to buy tickets and sell them on and non away scheme members never did that in order to retain a high away ticket status.
It does happen but not on the same percentages of resales from people who were in the scheme
Aq
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: LeeB on July 15, 2019, 09:39:49 PM
I'm just happy that I got my turn on the waiting list today and will be there all next season.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: McGraths Dry Cleaning on July 15, 2019, 09:44:06 PM
Got my first ever season ticket today plus one for my eldest boy. In the whole of the Lower Doug we had the choice of two places where there was more than one seat available.

Delighted to have them and almost MDC Jnr's favourite spot for good measure.

Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Dazvillain on July 16, 2019, 09:10:30 AM
Wow, wen the 4 claret memberships in our family arrive, we wonít be sitting in lower DE then , where we used to on occasions ! Sounds like weíll have choice  in upper trinity alone getting 4 next to each other other .....anyone else who can see availability with info would be appreciated so we can start to have discussions about where to try and purchase please ?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: chrisw1 on July 16, 2019, 11:34:52 AM
I can't access the availability plan any more, but yep upper Trinity will be pretty much the only place for four together.  You'd probably get 2 x 2's in the Holte wings.

edit - actually this link should work
https://tickets.avfc.co.uk/en-GB/subscriptions/2019-20%20season%20ticket?hallmap
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Chipsticks on July 16, 2019, 11:42:19 AM
I can't access the availability plan any more, but yep upper Trinity will be pretty much the only place for four together.  You'd probably get 2 x 2's in the Holte wings.

edit - actually this link should work
https://tickets.avfc.co.uk/en-GB/subscriptions/2019-20%20season%20ticket?hallmap


Thanks for the link Chris.

Assuming that every seat was eligible for ST purchase, it's going to be a bit of a mad scramble for match day tickets!
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: chrisw1 on July 16, 2019, 04:25:19 PM
They have now hit the 30k cap.  Well played by the marketing team.

https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2019/07/16/season-ticket-cap-reached

Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Dazvillain on July 16, 2019, 05:06:21 PM
I can't access the availability plan any more, but yep upper Trinity will be pretty much the only place for four together.  You'd probably get 2 x 2's in the Holte wings.

edit - actually this link should work
https://tickets.avfc.co.uk/en-GB/subscriptions/2019-20%20season%20ticket?hallmap

Brilliant Chris exactly what i needed thanks
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: KRS on July 16, 2019, 11:10:07 PM
So if season ticket limit has been reached and if my quick maths is correct, then thereís approx 281 seats up for grabs in the Holte to non season ticket holders?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Dazvillain on July 17, 2019, 12:25:53 AM
So if season ticket limit has been reached and if my quick maths is correct, then thereís approx 281 seats up for grabs in the Holte to non season ticket holders?
Yes, thatís my understanding . I wish they would hurry up and show matchday prices and when games were going on sale. Last years are still on the website. Gonna be only level 1 or 2 price tickets for me as need 4 together....me thinks pricey !
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: KRS on July 17, 2019, 06:16:08 AM
Bought my Claret Membership last night...it says on the ticket office that it takes 28 days so does that mean Iíll be unable to buy tickets for Bournemouth and Everton or will the membership be recognised online?

Edit: just checked again and thatís for the membership pack, so presume tickets will be available once they release details.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: exigo on July 17, 2019, 09:07:04 AM
Bought my Claret Membership last night...it says on the ticket office that it takes 28 days so does that mean Iíll be unable to buy tickets for Bournemouth and Everton or will the membership be recognised online?

Edit: just checked again and thatís for the membership pack, so presume tickets will be available once they release details.

Should go straight onto your fan ID, so will be there when you log in online. Certainly was last season.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Dazvillain on July 18, 2019, 12:14:42 PM
So the criteria for away sales being discussed in a ticket thread but I was right at start of this thread saying that buying a membership is still only pre general sale. If away criteria is anything to go by Before claret members, ST holders will have an opportunity to purchase additional matchday tickets (Only about 8000) , so not sure many will go claret members let alone general sale . If they are going to base home games criteria before claret members itís game over !
Having said all that I really hope Iím wrong
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Richard on July 18, 2019, 12:24:47 PM
Sorry Daz but there's absolutely no way season ticket holders will be able to purchase additional tickets before anyone else gets chance to !
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Dazvillain on July 18, 2019, 12:50:00 PM
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Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Dazvillain on July 18, 2019, 12:55:54 PM
Sorry Daz but there's absolutely no way season ticket holders will be able to purchase additional tickets before anyone else gets chance to !

I really hope you are right Richard . I suppose away criteria slightly different as ST holders without booking history get a perk of purchasing their own prior to claret members/general sale . Weíll have to wait and see , if the Bournemouth ones ever get put on sale
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: chrisw1 on July 18, 2019, 03:09:47 PM
For home games it will be Claret members then general sale.

For away games it will be away booking history (in a few tiers), then season ticket holders (with no or limited away history) then claret members and then general sale.  I doubt many away games will get down to people without away history, hence the various 'closed shop' comments.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: amfy on July 18, 2019, 08:44:06 PM
Sorry Daz but there's absolutely no way season ticket holders will be able to purchase additional tickets before anyone else gets chance to !

I really hope you are right Richard . I suppose away criteria slightly different as ST holders without booking history get a perk of purchasing their own prior to claret members/general sale . Weíll have to wait and see , if the Bournemouth ones ever get put on sale

For home games itís claret members first as season ticket holders already have their seat.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Rudy65 on July 18, 2019, 09:15:32 PM
They have now hit the 30k cap.  Well played by the marketing team.

https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2019/07/16/season-ticket-cap-reached

Doubt it was too difficult. They are hardly marketing SHA
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Dazvillain on July 19, 2019, 10:54:56 AM
Matchday tickets and priorities announced. Only 3 categories of game. For best parts of ground, zone A £50 a ticket no concessions. £36 for cat B and £33 for C.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: UK Redsox on July 19, 2019, 10:58:07 AM
Home Tickets page does show the Bournemouth game but still has the following as well  ::)

(https://tickets.avfc.co.uk/custom/documents/images/The%20Last%20Four%20Match%20Package.jpg)
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 19, 2019, 10:58:37 AM
Matchday tickets and priorities announced. Only 3 categories of game. For best parts of ground, zone A £50 a ticket no concessions. £36 for cat B and £33 for C.


FIFTY QUID???!!!
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Dazvillain on July 19, 2019, 11:01:10 AM
Matchday tickets and priorities announced. Only 3 categories of game. For best parts of ground, zone A £50 a ticket no concessions. £36 for cat B and £33 for C.


FIFTY QUID???!!!

Absolutely DAVE, they know theyíve only got 8000 to sell each game. And the part of the ground with biggest availability , upper trinity is all zone 1 and 2 prices !
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: ajmant on July 19, 2019, 11:03:41 AM
Blimey. £50 is a shocker.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: UK Redsox on July 19, 2019, 11:05:31 AM
Seating plan link still goes to last season's info, so I'm not sure what parts of the stadium are what zone for the upcoming season

https://www.avfc.co.uk/club/villa-park/visiting-the-stadium/seating-plan
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Clampy on July 19, 2019, 11:07:39 AM
I presume that will be for the Upper Trinity but £50 is way too much.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: UK Redsox on July 19, 2019, 11:13:37 AM
As mentioned above, the seating plan link for home games still have last season's info. However, I assume that the per-game zones will be the same as the ST zones


(https://d3ix52z2istd7h.cloudfront.net/~/media/Stadium-Pricing-Plan.ashx?la=en&vs=1&d=20190617T111735Z&hash=EE063E41B3011BF1EBE46DF15E59C56F4DFFE213)
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: saunders_heroes on July 19, 2019, 11:14:55 AM
Look like they donít want to sell those last 8000 tickets then.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: villabear on July 19, 2019, 11:16:22 AM
Quick question. I normally do about 10-12 games on average a season. With the season tickets selling out do people think its is it best for me to get a claret membership to get a chance of tickets and is it only one ticket per membership as previously I've bought for two mates who come up from London for the occasional game.

In hindsight this isn't a quick question bit quite longwinded. An advise gratefully received 👍
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: AV82EC on July 19, 2019, 11:16:29 AM
The Premier League, welcome back everyone.....
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: UK Redsox on July 19, 2019, 11:17:30 AM
The Premier League, welcome back everyone.....

Prices for home games go up but prices for away games go down
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Chipsticks on July 19, 2019, 11:19:01 AM
Unacceptable pricing, especially in light of the amount of TV money the club's been so excited to receive.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: AV82EC on July 19, 2019, 11:20:29 AM
Quick question. I normally do about 10-12 games on average a season. With the season tickets selling out do people think its is it best for me to get a claret membership to get a chance of tickets and is it only one ticket per membership as previously I've bought for two mates who come up from London for the occasional game.

In hindsight this isn't a quick question bit quite longwinded. An advise gratefully received 👍

Simple answer, yes particularly if you want a ticket for any of the big 6 (small bit of sick in mouth) or Wolvesalona.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Dazvillain on July 19, 2019, 11:22:39 AM
I presume that will be for the Upper Trinity but £50 is way too much.

Well when you see cat A games at £50 for adult is one thing but no concessions for oap's, under 18's and 14's, its really disappointing from a family club point off view
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Clampy on July 19, 2019, 11:24:21 AM
I presume that will be for the Upper Trinity but £50 is way too much.

Well when you see cat A games at £50 for adult is one thing but no concessions for oap's, under 18's and 14's, its really disappointing from a family club point off view

I've just said as much on Twitter. I know there are other areas of the ground to sit but £50 for OAP, Under 14's etc is wrong.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Dazvillain on July 19, 2019, 11:25:55 AM
Quick question. I normally do about 10-12 games on average a season. With the season tickets selling out do people think its is it best for me to get a claret membership to get a chance of tickets and is it only one ticket per membership as previously I've bought for two mates who come up from London for the occasional game.

In hindsight this isn't a quick question bit quite longwinded. An advise gratefully received 👍

Simple answer, yes particularly if you want a ticket for any of the big 6 (small bit of sick in mouth) or Wolvesalona.

and the other answer is you do need a membership for each individual. Years ago i would buy my daughters and dads on my number as not worried about building ups loyalty but you can't do that any longer
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: KRS on July 19, 2019, 11:27:18 AM
I would say claret membership is pretty much essential now but with those ticket bandings they may well have priced out a lot of fans or certainly restricted how many games ppl can afford to go to. As an example, if you can only get to 4 games per season then youíre looking at approx £60 per person per game plus any travel and refreshments...thatís an expensive day out whichever way you look at it, so pick your games wisely.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: SoccerHQ on July 19, 2019, 11:27:45 AM
It's 50 quid for Cat A.

Drop off to 36 quid for Cat B games which isn't "too bad".

For any Cat C game (I'm guessing Watford in midweek in January) 33 quid is top price anywhere in the stadium which in these times is pretty good value.

In all the info on Bournemouth I'm presuming that's a Cat B game as will be Everton and West Ham. Guessing Burnley will be Cat C.

Cat A will be just against top 6 I guess, Wolves and maybe Newcastle given the noise that will surround that fixture so club been from their POV pretty clever in making sure area where there won't be as many season tickets (upper trinity) is created as overflow area for all those who buy on match to match and want to watch those games.

40 quid would've been fairer but it's the way it's done now I'm afraid even with clubs not needing the gate reciepts as much. If the demand is there as it certainly is this summer, clubs will charge top price.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ads on July 19, 2019, 11:27:56 AM
£50 for category A in the upper Trinity is obscene.

The £36 one seems about par for the course.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: KRS on July 19, 2019, 11:33:07 AM
Yep all depends on which games are Cat A. If most games are Cat B then prices are only a few quid on top of last season. Bournemouth is confirmed as Cat B prices in ticket office.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: SoccerHQ on July 19, 2019, 11:34:09 AM
They'll be 7 Cat A games I'm guessing. Would look silly for club to announce Newcastle as one and then Steve Bruce gets sacked first week of October, then it will just go back to being a clash between two bottom half teams. If he stays that could be one.

Ultimately the club will say they're spending the TV money on creating an exciting team and the inflated wage bill that comes with 100m + spending. You don't just get a cheque for 200m day after play off final so owners will be chipping in aswell.

The one rule at premier league is if there's big demand, fleece the consumer so that's the rules we're now playing with.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: UK Redsox on July 19, 2019, 11:34:44 AM
Yep all depends on which games are Cat A. If most games are Cat B then prices are only a few quid on top of last season. Bournemouth is confirmed as Cat B prices in ticket office.

That's probably just because it's the first game of the season. Bournemouth would probably be Cat C in mid-season
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: UK Redsox on July 19, 2019, 11:36:41 AM
£50 for category A in the upper Trinity is obscene.



It's always surprised me that someone sitting at the back of UTR A4 pays more than me nine rows back in LTR C4
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Nev on July 19, 2019, 11:38:34 AM
I won't be paying 50 notes, the Cat A games are the ones I'm not too bothered about attending, fuckin' half and halfers, gloryhunters and Brummie Reds wherever you look.

This is precisely why I was torn about promotion, £20 to sit in a ground full of Villa fans or £50 to sit in a ground half full of "football" fans.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Damo70 on July 19, 2019, 11:59:57 AM
I won't be paying 50 notes, the Cat A games are the ones I'm not too bothered about attending, fuckin' half and halfers, gloryhunters and Brummie Reds wherever you look.

This is precisely why I was torn about promotion, £20 to sit in a ground full of Villa fans or £50 to sit in a ground half full of "football" fans.


Yes, I remember ten years ago when I got the first season tickets for my son and I we bought half season tickets in the November that were a lot cheaper if you chose not to include three or four category A games which didn't bother me at all. Like Nev says, twattish glory hunters and also the likelihood of defeat.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Villa75 on July 19, 2019, 12:17:24 PM
Also, for those of us without a season ticket, don't forget the 50p online booking fee. 😂

All those 50p's come in handy for the club, when they're struggling in the Premier League. 😂😂
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: villabear on July 19, 2019, 12:18:35 PM
Quick question. I normally do about 10-12 games on average a season. With the season tickets selling out do people think its is it best for me to get a claret membership to get a chance of tickets and is it only one ticket per membership as previously I've bought for two mates who come up from London for the occasional game.

In hindsight this isn't a quick question bit quite longwinded. An advise gratefully received 👍

Simple answer, yes particularly if you want a ticket for any of the big 6 (small bit of sick in mouth) or Wolvesalona.

and the other answer is you do need a membership for each individual. Years ago i would buy my daughters and dads on my number as not worried about building ups loyalty but you can't do that any longer

Cheers for that. Looks like I won't be doing many games then this season then with limited tickets available. Pointless my mates buying a membership to be able to only buy the few games they can get to.

I used to buy the odd ticket if I was going on my own via Seatwave but since they were scrapped the club never announced a replacement secondary ticket partner. I always thought it was a good idea for the season ticket holder to be able to sell their ticket if they couldn't attend and tickets were normally reasonably priced sometimes cheaper that purchasing direct from the club.

And £50 without concessions for a cat A games is piss poor from the club.

Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Villa75 on July 19, 2019, 12:23:29 PM
I've just bought a claret membership. Mainly so I can get a ticket for the home match with Wolves. That's the one I'm most looking forward to this season. Should be a great atmosphere.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Dazvillain on July 19, 2019, 12:40:29 PM
Also, for those of us without a season ticket, don't forget the 50p online booking fee. 😂

All those 50p's come in handy for the club, when they're struggling in the Premier League. 😂😂

And the £1 postage
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: KKAVFC on July 19, 2019, 01:05:32 PM
Has anyone experienced a situation where they have somehow ended up with 2 fan I.D.'s & subsequently 2 associated e-mail addresses like I have ? I bought a Claret membership on 9/7 & received the e-mail confirmation but it advises of a follow-up mail which hasn't arrived. When I try to log on with this address there is no record of it but I can on with my other address but of course the Claret membership / fan I.D. won't match ! I have mailed them back but don't expect a quick reply, unreal....
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on July 19, 2019, 01:23:13 PM
Does anyone have any information on the re-sale of match tickets through the club for matches that ssn ticket holders can't attend? I was under the illusion that this was something  the club was doing this season, yet when I phoned the ticket office today, they said this was not happening. Can anyone clarify please?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: chrisw1 on July 19, 2019, 01:59:29 PM
Also, for those of us without a season ticket, don't forget the 50p online booking fee. 😂

All those 50p's come in handy for the club, when they're struggling in the Premier League. 😂😂
Print at home works fine

And the £1 postage
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: UK Redsox on July 19, 2019, 02:59:06 PM
Does anyone have any information on the re-sale of match tickets through the club for matches that ssn ticket holders can't attend? I was under the illusion that this was something  the club was doing this season, yet when I phoned the ticket office today, they said this was not happening. Can anyone clarify please?

There's still a Ticket Exchange link on Pravda that goes to Ticketmaster.

I don't think that Villa have used TicketMaster in the past, so it might be new
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: exigo on July 19, 2019, 03:08:02 PM
Also, for those of us without a season ticket, don't forget the 50p online booking fee. 😂

All those 50p's come in handy for the club, when they're struggling in the Premier League. 😂😂
Print at home works fine

And the £1 postage

I happily got into the ground last year using my phone display Ė with the QR code from the PDF nice and big on screen.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Villa75 on July 19, 2019, 03:26:45 PM
Also, for those of us without a season ticket, don't forget the 50p online booking fee. 😂

All those 50p's come in handy for the club, when they're struggling in the Premier League. 😂😂
Print at home works fine

And the £1 postage

I happily got into the ground last year using my phone display Ė with the QR code from the PDF nice and big on screen.

No getting away with paying that 50p though. I'd love to know What that covers. 😂

Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ger Regan on July 19, 2019, 03:49:47 PM
Tickets going on sale to members for Bournemouth today at 5.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: KRS on July 19, 2019, 05:10:16 PM
Just got my ticket for Bournemouth game in the Holte. Completely forgot about the £10 voucher you get with claret membership and this was automatically applied so ticket was only £23...bargain! Looking forward to getting the season off to a good start (hopefully).
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: PaulMcGrathsNo5Shirt on July 19, 2019, 07:34:09 PM
I usually get to 3 or 4 games a season with the lad. With memberships to now buy to even try and get tickets and £50 tickets for some games it's probably going to cost the same as a season ticket when we entertained the likes of Rotherham, Millwall and Reading.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: purpletrousers on July 19, 2019, 09:42:06 PM
Has anyone experienced a situation where they have somehow ended up with 2 fan I.D.'s & subsequently 2 associated e-mail addresses like I have ? I bought a Claret membership on 9/7 & received the e-mail confirmation but it advises of a follow-up mail which hasn't arrived. When I try to log on with this address there is no record of it but I can on with my other address but of course the Claret membership / fan I.D. won't match ! I have mailed them back but don't expect a quick reply, unreal....

Just give them a call and have both email addresses/ref # ready, theyíve been very helpful in sorting things out for me, Iíd be pretty confident theyíll just merge stuff, have half a memory had to do something similar once...
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: QuintonVilla on July 19, 2019, 11:31:05 PM
Cat A are Liverpool, Man City, Spurs, Chelsea, Arsenal, Wolves, Man Utd. 7 games where some fans will be paying £50 to watch a newly promoted team is scandalous in my opinion. As I just put in the ticketing forum, we're not Chelsea whose fans are loaded and we're not Man City who win every week. The jump from £36 to £50 from Cat A to Cat B is ridiculous. In comparison Norwich have capped all their home tickets at £30
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: JD on July 19, 2019, 11:52:31 PM
Big thanks and kudos to Lennythekad who has got me two tickets for the game against Bournemouth.

I can't wait to come back home.  :)
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Dazvillain on July 19, 2019, 11:58:50 PM
There wasnít any categories last year. The match day tickets were the same for every game....those prices are now the category C prices. Roughly cat B are 10% on top of that and cat A are just huge !
On purchasing Bournemouth tickets tonight I bought 4, assigning the other 3 to family members . System would only take my £10 off and it wouldnít come off the others. 2 of which are my parents in their 80ís (no e mail or net).
Any idea how I get their £10 off applied in the future ?

I calculated about 4000 tickets went in first half hour tonight
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 20, 2019, 12:08:33 AM
I calculated about 4000 tickets went in first half hour tonight

Really?

How did you work that out? (Not said confrontationally, genuinely interested).
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 20, 2019, 12:09:58 AM
Cat A are Liverpool, Man City, Spurs, Chelsea, Arsenal, Wolves, Man Utd. 7 games where some fans will be paying £50 to watch a newly promoted team is scandalous in my opinion. As I just put in the ticketing forum, we're not Chelsea whose fans are loaded and we're not Man City who win every week. The jump from £36 to £50 from Cat A to Cat B is ridiculous. In comparison Norwich have capped all their home tickets at £30

Yeah but Norwich have also not spent any money in the transfer market.

We can't get all excited about the expensive players and not expect to spend more money to watch the games.

50 instead of 36 for a PL match against the most watchable teams does not seem insanely spendy to me.

If you are going to suggest tickets should be priced for 'a newly promoted team' then you should also expect to be seeing the transfer market activity of your average newly promoted team.

(Obviously Leeds could put theirs up at £70 and still sell 60,000).

Also - not being funny, but don't you spend most of your time telling us how shit our support is ('OMG! We've only sold 25,000 for Rotherham away! We should shift at least 500,000 for that!)?

If so, you've suddenly found some extenuating circumstances, by the looks of it.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: SoccerHQ on July 20, 2019, 12:50:22 AM
Has claret membership replaced booking history then?

Thought they'd be period where people who went to 3-5 games last season would get period to buy tickets but seems it's just going straight to general sale in the categories listed.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Chipsticks on July 20, 2019, 01:13:01 AM
Has claret membership replaced booking history then?

Thought they'd be period where people who went to 3-5 games last season would get period to buy tickets but seems it's just going straight to general sale in the categories listed.

I also would have preferred this, but I guess the clubs hands are tied by guaranteeing paid memberships and season tickets a ticket. Money talks.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ads on July 20, 2019, 09:30:24 AM
Phone lines are rammed.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: john e on July 20, 2019, 09:34:14 AM
would anyone on here have any idea if the Spurs game will get down to season ticket holders with less than 9 aways in other words just ST holders

I donít suppose it will get anywhere near but just asking the question in case someone knows the numbers
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ads on July 20, 2019, 09:39:59 AM
18+ appears to be a 1000. I imagine that each category is larger than that.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Dazvillain on July 20, 2019, 09:56:02 AM
I calculated about 4000 tickets went in first half hour tonight

Really?

How did you work that out? (Not said confrontationally, genuinely interested).

Quick add up of places left in each section at 5 then  again at 5;30
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Flin5tone on July 22, 2019, 12:04:41 AM
Are tickets on General Sale or on Sale to 'Claret Members' still seems plenty of Availability in upper Trinity and Doug which has surprised me slightly as I expected those to be snapped up

Considering signing up for membership but will only be able to attend 3-4 matches as being relocated next month

Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Richard on July 22, 2019, 08:17:10 AM
Are tickets on General Sale or on Sale to 'Claret Members' still seems plenty of Availability in upper Trinity and Doug which has surprised me slightly as I expected those to be snapped up

Considering signing up for membership but will only be able to attend 3-4 matches as being relocated next month

Tickets only on sale to members currently then from Friday to season ticket holders wanting extra tickets. General sale the Friday after that although I doubt there will be many of the 8000 or so left by then.


Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Richard on July 22, 2019, 08:18:05 AM
Certainly forced my hand to buy membership as I usually go to about half the home games.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: KRS on July 22, 2019, 10:29:58 AM
Times are a changing. If you want to definitely get tickets for specific games you want to attend then the only way to more or less guarantee that is to buy claret membership. It costs £35 but you do get £10 off a ticket so the real cost of membership is £25.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Hookeysmith on July 22, 2019, 01:17:23 PM
"The problem with success is you become what you detest"

Welcome back to the cash cow that is the premier league
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 22, 2019, 01:39:20 PM
From a quick look at the source code, if you want to see what's available for Bournemouth but aren't yet eligible, and are getting the greyed out Coming Soon button, you can go to this url and access it.

https://tickets.avfc.co.uk/en-GB/events/aston%20villa%20v%20bournemouth/2019-8-17_15.00/villa%20park?hallmap

I would assume there will be checks on the server side to stop you buying if you're not eligible yet, but TBH I wouldn't bank on it.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Flin5tone on July 23, 2019, 12:36:14 AM
For those interested, I called to sign up for claret membership today and those will be capped at 10K.Currently on 8 and expected to hit the target so a combined 40K ST Holders / Members . A few hundred Half Memberships will be kept back for Christmas Release

Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: UK Redsox on July 23, 2019, 08:29:26 AM
From a quick look at the source code, if you want to see what's available for Bournemouth but aren't yet eligible, and are getting the greyed out Coming Soon button, you can go to this url and access it.

https://tickets.avfc.co.uk/en-GB/events/aston%20villa%20v%20bournemouth/2019-8-17_15.00/villa%20park?hallmap

I would assume there will be checks on the server side to stop you buying if you're not eligible yet, but TBH I wouldn't bank on it.

I'm surprised at the number of seats marked as 'restricted view'. Why was the stand built with such seats. However, the seats are only discounted by a quid, so I suspect the view isn't that restricted
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Brassneck on July 23, 2019, 08:43:12 AM
From a quick look at the source code, if you want to see what's available for Bournemouth but aren't yet eligible, and are getting the greyed out Coming Soon button, you can go to this url and access it.

https://tickets.avfc.co.uk/en-GB/events/aston%20villa%20v%20bournemouth/2019-8-17_15.00/villa%20park?hallmap

I would assume there will be checks on the server side to stop you buying if you're not eligible yet, but TBH I wouldn't bank on it.

I'm surprised at the number of seats marked as 'restricted view'. Why was the stand built with such seats. However, the seats are only discounted by a quid, so I suspect the view isn't that restricted

Itís generally a rail either at the front or at the gangway that forces you to adjust position if the ball is played in front of the handrails.  Itís not the worst and the minimal reduction reflects this.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Bren'd on July 23, 2019, 08:46:09 AM
If thereís a handrail in your eye line when you sit down itís deemed as restricted.  I wonder if the away following get restricted view tickets? Iíd imagine the top corner and areas of the lower section of the Doug Ellis would find it difficult seeing a corner at the Holte End being taken.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 23, 2019, 09:28:42 AM
From a quick look at the source code, if you want to see what's available for Bournemouth but aren't yet eligible, and are getting the greyed out Coming Soon button, you can go to this url and access it.

https://tickets.avfc.co.uk/en-GB/events/aston%20villa%20v%20bournemouth/2019-8-17_15.00/villa%20park?hallmap

I would assume there will be checks on the server side to stop you buying if you're not eligible yet, but TBH I wouldn't bank on it.

I'm surprised at the number of seats marked as 'restricted view'. Why was the stand built with such seats. However, the seats are only discounted by a quid, so I suspect the view isn't that restricted

Itís generally a rail either at the front or at the gangway that forces you to adjust position if the ball is played in front of the handrails.  Itís not the worst and the minimal reduction reflects this.

Yep, I sat in one of those seats once a few years back and it was as you've described.

the rail didn't really restrict the view much at all.

Although it was against Man United, so it would have been better if it had obstructed the view entirely.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: chrisw1 on July 23, 2019, 10:51:12 AM
Just over 3,000 seats available for Bournemouth, but not on general sale for another week.  Will be interesting to see how demand holds up as the season progresses.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 23, 2019, 11:04:11 AM
Just over 3,000 seats available for Bournemouth, but not on general sale for another week.  Will be interesting to see how demand holds up as the season progresses.

Are you remembering to not count the away end tickets which, for some reason, show up there?

I just did a quick tally and got just over 2k left.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 23, 2019, 11:23:51 AM
Maybe Bournemouth will only take one tier so that would be an extra lot of tickets available for Villa fans?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: john e on July 23, 2019, 11:39:55 AM
anyone know how you enter that lottery draw with the 25 pairs of away tickets thing ?

cant see anything on the website
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: chrisw1 on July 23, 2019, 11:43:52 AM
Just over 3,000 seats available for Bournemouth, but not on general sale for another week.  Will be interesting to see how demand holds up as the season progresses.

Are you remembering to not count the away end tickets which, for some reason, show up there?

I just did a quick tally and got just over 2k left.
Yes, you're right.  Even better, except for people hoping for general sale of course.

Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ad@m on July 23, 2019, 11:54:58 AM
It would be nice if the club pulled it's collective finger out of its arse and sorted out the ticket resale process.  I'm on holiday for the Bournemouth game and would quite like to flog my season ticket on but months after being told an announcement was imminent there's still no way of selling my ticket to someone else.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Dazvillain on July 23, 2019, 12:21:08 PM
Bournemouth allocated 2017 tickets, but 3000 available in total if needed. Theyíve not sold initial allocation yet though and are currently on sale to 9 away games last year
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: amfy on July 23, 2019, 12:33:30 PM
It would be nice if the club pulled it's collective finger out of its arse and sorted out the ticket resale process.  I'm on holiday for the Bournemouth game and would quite like to flog my season ticket on but months after being told an announcement was imminent there's still no way of selling my ticket to someone else.

Well there kind of is.

You can ask the club to download them to a paper ticket saying that you want to Ďpass them oní to a friend or family member as you canít go.

Then someone on here will probably pay you for them as even if they can get a ticket from the club it wonít be as good as yours!

Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Brassneck on July 23, 2019, 12:35:46 PM
Bournemouth allocated 2017 tickets, but 3000 available in total if needed. Theyíve not sold initial allocation yet though and are currently on sale to 9 away games last year

With this in mind, it would be nice if we could make the away section more flexible, ie allowing the upper segregation line to be moveable.  Iím guessing that they allocate downstairs first which would probably be the 2017 figure.  If after that, a club sell another 500, it would leave 500 available which in the past have just remained empty, regardless of demand.

I appreciate we wonít get too many teams not taking up their full allocation but if the chance arises,Iíd like to see us ensure fans have the opportunity to sit in seats that would otherwise remain empty.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: chrisw1 on July 23, 2019, 12:36:10 PM
It would be nice if the club pulled it's collective finger out of its arse and sorted out the ticket resale process.  I'm on holiday for the Bournemouth game and would quite like to flog my season ticket on but months after being told an announcement was imminent there's still no way of selling my ticket to someone else.

Well there kind of is.

You can ask the club to download them to a paper ticket saying that you want to Ďpass them oní to a friend or family member as you canít go.

Then someone on here will probably pay you for them as even if they can get a ticket from the club it wonít be as good as yours!


Can you do this via the website or do you need to phone ticket office?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Brassneck on July 23, 2019, 12:38:37 PM
anyone know how you enter that lottery draw with the 25 pairs of away tickets thing ?

cant see anything on the website

I read at the time it was announced that it was via the pride rewards scheme.  Ie, you submit points in order to enter the draw.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 23, 2019, 12:40:43 PM
It would be nice if the club pulled it's collective finger out of its arse and sorted out the ticket resale process.  I'm on holiday for the Bournemouth game and would quite like to flog my season ticket on but months after being told an announcement was imminent there's still no way of selling my ticket to someone else.

Well there kind of is.

You can ask the club to download them to a paper ticket saying that you want to Ďpass them oní to a friend or family member as you canít go.

Then someone on here will probably pay you for them as even if they can get a ticket from the club it wonít be as good as yours!


Can you do this via the website or do you need to phone ticket office?

Phone the ticket office, that's what I've always done, only option.

To be fair, it's really, really straightforward and takes about 30 seconds. They just deactivate your card and email you a PDF print-at-home ticket. I'd suggest not mentioning selling it, though.

I did it a few times last season as I was unable to make a few games and generally gave them to one of the Villa fans in the office.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Mortimer's Bear on July 23, 2019, 12:42:52 PM
Has anyone received their new season tickets yet?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: GordonCowansisthegreatest on July 23, 2019, 01:00:07 PM
It would be nice if the club pulled it's collective finger out of its arse and sorted out the ticket resale process.  I'm on holiday for the Bournemouth game and would quite like to flog my season ticket on but months after being told an announcement was imminent there's still no way of selling my ticket to someone else.

Well there kind of is.

You can ask the club to download them to a paper ticket saying that you want to Ďpass them oní to a friend or family member as you canít go.

Then someone on here will probably pay you for them as even if they can get a ticket from the club it wonít be as good as yours!


Maybe we need a pinned link for spare ST's ;-)
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: phantom limb on July 23, 2019, 01:00:12 PM
Has anyone received their new season tickets yet?

I havenít received it or heard anything, Iíve had a look on the website and it doesnít seem to say when they are being sent out either
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 23, 2019, 01:30:20 PM
If you had one last year, they are just reactivating your card so you won't get a new one.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Mortimer's Bear on July 23, 2019, 01:46:17 PM
Iíve moved seats.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Bad English on July 23, 2019, 03:17:58 PM
I'm wondering if I should get a claret membership now, even if I don't get to more than one game this season. I'm going to the Everton game but I don't know if I will be over for another.

I'm.thinkng about subsequent seasons. If they are capped at 10K, will the claret members be given first refusal on claret membership renewals?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Lsvilla on July 23, 2019, 03:24:34 PM
Has anyone received their new season tickets yet?

I havenít received it or heard anything, Iíve had a look on the website and it doesnít seem to say when they are being sent out either
Pretty sure I read somewhere it was posting at the end of July for anyone who is new or needs a new card.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: chrisw1 on July 23, 2019, 03:25:49 PM
I'm wondering if I should get a claret membership now, even if I don't get to more than one game this season. I'm going to the Everton game but I don't know if I will be over for another.

I'm.thinkng about subsequent seasons. If they are capped at 10K, will the claret members be given first refusal on claret membership renewals?
You would have thoughts so.

Personally I think the fuss will die down and there will be more availability next year unless we have an incredible season, but you never know.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Bad English on July 23, 2019, 04:15:21 PM
Yes. Either we'll be looking at permanent waiting lists or we'll be back to yo-yo attendances.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Brassneck on July 23, 2019, 04:22:42 PM
Many pl teams now appear to have waiting lists for season tickets.  Even Micky Mouse clubs like Wolves have one.

I would argue that the danger of not extending the ground now, in order to capitalise on the upsurge is that we risk losing a chunk of a new generation of fans.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 23, 2019, 05:59:51 PM
Absolutely. For the first time I can remember, if a parent wants to take their child to a game for the first time, they aren't able to do so. That can't be good. I hope we announce the expansion before the end of this season.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: chrisw1 on July 23, 2019, 06:08:58 PM
Absolutely. For the first time I can remember, if a parent wants to take their child to a game for the first time, they aren't able to do so. That can't be good. I hope we announce the expansion before the end of this season.
Why don't we see if we are still selling out at the end of the season before commiting £100m's on a vanity project?

It's all academic as Purslow has stated it won't happen for a good few years anyway.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 23, 2019, 08:15:56 PM
We were selling out at the end of last season and have massively increased our number of season ticket holders. It's not a vanity project, it's sensible forward planning.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on July 23, 2019, 08:25:40 PM


If we're languishing in the bottom half come May you can bet your backside we'll be back to 20k season ticket holders next season and no sell outs other than a couple against the top sides again. Wait and see is the correct and sensible answer IMHO.

But this expansion conversation has already been done to death of course.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 23, 2019, 08:42:05 PM
We were averaging good crowds when we looked to have no chance of promotion from the tier below. It's fine for those of us that have season tickets already. It's rubbish that the next generation are cut off from attending. No club of our stature has such a small ground or, if they do, they're looking to expand or move.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: mr underhill on July 24, 2019, 07:20:10 AM
Chelsea? Smaller capacity than VP isn't it? And Roman doesn't look in a hurry to pump the billions in to move.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Brassneck on July 24, 2019, 07:46:01 AM
It would take a season to get plans drawn up, approved and then a plan in place for a build during the Close season.  Realistically, we are looking at 2 seasons ahead in any case.

Sunderland moved and their gates rocketed, as did West Ham.  Chelsea are an exception for whatever reason - all the other big London teams have moved.

Almost every team who have either moved or extended are now enjoying bigger gates.

I appreciate that weíve never averaged more than our capacity but last season could have potentially seen a 45,000 average.  This season certainly would have if we have 7,000 on the waiting list.

Dads who might want to take their son/daughter regularly may not be able to do so, likewise returning fans.  There will also be people who might go to a one off game and get bitten by the bug.

I appreciate that team strengthening comes first at this point and wouldnít want it any other way.  However, I firmly believe that extending will add to the momentum.  I think weíre being short sighted to write off our potential based on previous averages.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: mr underhill on July 24, 2019, 08:54:41 AM
I know the NS is a horribly outdated, but would a compromise be infilling the corners in that area to give an almost instant increase in capacity with minimal risk/cost?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: AsTallAsLions on July 24, 2019, 09:00:56 AM
I know the NS is a horribly outdated, but would a compromise be infilling the corners in that area to give an almost instant increase in capacity with minimal risk/cost?

I can't think why, but you'll find people who are against that. Probably.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 24, 2019, 10:26:21 AM
I know the NS is a horribly outdated, but would a compromise be infilling the corners in that area to give an almost instant increase in capacity with minimal risk/cost?

I can't think why, but you'll find people who are against that. Probably.

Fuck that.

Villa Park is a traditional four stands English football ground.

I am happy for the entire thing to be knocked down and rebuilt if need be, but it must, if not remain four seperate stands, have a design which pays homage to that (see Sampdoria's ground when they rebuilt it for the 1990 WC, that sort of thing).

Filling in the bits around the north stand would almost certainly be structurally extremely challenging (and therefore expensive) and look shite.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 24, 2019, 10:36:18 AM
Chelsea? Smaller capacity than VP isn't it? And Roman doesn't look in a hurry to pump the billions in to move.

You're right, I wasn't aware that they were no longer going ahead with plans to expand the stadium. However, said plans are only "on hold". I'd be surprised if they were playing at a stadium with a sub-50,000 capacity in five years.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 24, 2019, 10:37:57 AM
Chelsea? Smaller capacity than VP isn't it? And Roman doesn't look in a hurry to pump the billions in to move.

You're right, I wasn't aware that they were no longer going ahead with plans to expand the stadium. However, said plans are only "on hold". I'd be surprised if they were playing at a stadium with a sub-50,000 capacity in five years.

And it's not exactly a case of him not wanting to, it's all bound up in the government holding back his visa.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: SoccerHQ on July 24, 2019, 07:23:15 PM
Apparently issue for Stamford Bridge is train/tube line round the back of one of the stands so can't develop past 50k.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 24, 2019, 07:30:32 PM
Apparently issue for Stamford Bridge is train/tube line round the back of one of the stands so can't develop past 50k.

They got permission to redevelop it to 60k, so that can't be right.

The problem is Roman's pulled the money because of his visa hold-back.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: London Villan on July 24, 2019, 07:36:16 PM
I wonder, with the money nswe are chucking around, if there are big plans for the ground. What would people think of a 60k seat, state of the art stadium built close to the city centre?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: TonyD on July 24, 2019, 07:51:20 PM
I wonder, with the money nswe are chucking around, if there are big plans for the ground. What would people think of a 60k seat, state of the art stadium built close to the city centre?
No.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: UK Redsox on July 24, 2019, 07:55:15 PM
I wonder, with the money nswe are chucking around, if there are big plans for the ground. What would people think of a 60k seat, state of the art stadium built close to the city centre?

As long as itís Worcester city centre that youíre talking about
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: London Villan on July 24, 2019, 07:58:59 PM
Serious question though.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: ChicagoLion on July 24, 2019, 09:10:12 PM
I wonder, with the money nswe are chucking around, if there are big plans for the ground. What would people think of a 60k seat, state of the art stadium built close to the city centre?
Aston Villa play at Villa Park.
You might as well merge with that lot and call it Birmingham Villa.
The end.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: London Villan on July 24, 2019, 09:17:07 PM
I was 100% against ever moving, but... i bet itís been discussed. Better facilities, better public transport links, no issues with building while needing somewhere to play. Just seeing spursí new stadium has made me think about this thatís all.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: SoccerHQ on July 24, 2019, 10:49:52 PM
Apparently issue for Stamford Bridge is train/tube line round the back of one of the stands so can't develop past 50k.

They got permission to redevelop it to 60k, so that can't be right.

The problem is Roman's pulled the money because of his visa hold-back.

Just checked back. They were actually going to do a Spurs and knock down current Stamford Bridge, turn pitch around and build new stadium on same site. Would've taken 3 years and they were asking about playing at Twickenham or Wembley.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: SoccerHQ on July 24, 2019, 10:54:13 PM
I was 100% against ever moving, but... i bet itís been discussed. Better facilities, better public transport links, no issues with building while needing somewhere to play. Just seeing spursí new stadium has made me think about this thatís all.

Better transport links would mean NEC surely?

I know VP isn't perfect regarding that but it still has two train stations within half a mile radius and a decent bus route from city centre. If the council had shown some foresight 10 years ago you could've had tram route run down A34 or Lichfield road to add to things.

Certainly better than what Spurs have.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: The Moose on July 24, 2019, 11:08:16 PM
What about the old market site in Digbeth? Near to HS2 terminal, for our tourist fans, easy access to the shires, New Villa Park?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ads on July 24, 2019, 11:11:30 PM
Digbeth is Nose country. I like it.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: SoccerHQ on July 24, 2019, 11:14:11 PM
What about the old market site in Digbeth? Near to HS2 terminal, for our tourist fans, easy access to the shires, New Villa Park?

They were actually talking about putting a city centre park there the other week which would be nice move. I did walk past the area recently and that site is massive, could easily get a football stadium in there.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Nev on July 25, 2019, 07:15:02 AM
What about the old market site in Digbeth? Near to HS2 terminal, for our tourist fans, easy access to the shires, New Villa Park?

They were actually talking about putting a city centre park there the other week which would be nice move. I did walk past the area recently and that site is massive, could easily get a football stadium in there.

I went past yesterday, it really is huge, I hope they do something decent with it and not just commercial, making part of the site into a City Centre park is a must surely?

Not a place for us though, I feel that if we ever move from Aston it will be the first step on the road to becoming "just another club". The Hall, the park, the history of the serpentine and lower grounds, the approach towards the Holte Pub, the road names, even the towering and not particularly aesthetically pleasing Expressway are all part of our identity.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Chris Smith on July 25, 2019, 07:27:24 AM
Land anywhere near the city centre would be too expensive and I donít see how you could accommodate the additional car parking. I also think it would extremely unlikely that the council would grant planning permission.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Brassneck on July 25, 2019, 08:23:44 AM
I canít ever see a complete relocation going down well with the fans.  I would also be concerned that we would not be able to fund transfer windows adequately, as appeared to be the case with Arsenal for a few years after their move/total rebuild.

For me and most other fans, staying put is a must.  We have the infrastructure and accessibility as shown in the past when weíve hit gates of between late 40s to 60 odd thousand.

I would be happy to somehow add 5000-10,000 by tweaking the existing ground, filling in the corners etc.  We have great land at the back of the NS and weíre possibly missing a trick by not taking advantage of it fully.  Perhaps an additional 5,000-10,000 would act as a stop gap for a while to allow time to evaluate whether a complete redevelopment of the NS and ground behind is viable.

Imagine (or dream) if we could make a real impact on the top 6 again.  50,000 gates are far from being unrealistic.  I have no idea of the revenue in comparison to initial outlay but with a rebuild NS, there is scope for more hospitality areas.  Not everyone likes hospitality but we all have to accept that itís part of modern football.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Axl Rose on July 25, 2019, 08:28:06 AM
What about the old market site in Digbeth? Near to HS2 terminal, for our tourist fans, easy access to the shires, New Villa Park?

They were actually talking about putting a city centre park there the other week which would be nice move. I did walk past the area recently and that site is massive, could easily get a football stadium in there.

I went past yesterday, it really is huge, I hope they do something decent with it and not just commercial, making part of the site into a City Centre park is a must surely?

Not a place for us though, I feel that if we ever move from Aston it will be the first step on the road to becoming "just another club". The Hall, the park, the history of the serpentine and lower grounds, the approach towards the Holte Pub, the road names, even the towering and not particularly aesthetically pleasing Expressway are all part of our identity.

Spot on, Nev.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: oldhill_avfc on July 25, 2019, 08:36:37 AM
I think the new Spurs stadium has re-opened the debate for many people.

Having been there a couple of time last season I think there a few lessons to be learned.

Location, location, location - it succeeds because it's the new White Hart Lane.  Unlike the Arse.

It's got a 'home end' (where I'll be sadly on the opening day) and whips up a good atmosphere unlike other stadia.  Unlike West Ham.

They've built in a lot of great facilities and linked them to the past.  They've made it feel like a massive overhaul of the old ground not a new stadium.  To the Spuds it feels like they're 'home'.

With a bit of imagination and if needed all this could be achieved by restructuring on the current site.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: chrisw1 on July 25, 2019, 08:48:27 AM
I know the NS is a horribly outdated, but would a compromise be infilling the corners in that area to give an almost instant increase in capacity with minimal risk/cost?

I can't think why, but you'll find people who are against that. Probably.

Fuck that.

Villa Park is a traditional four stands English football ground.

I am happy for the entire thing to be knocked down and rebuilt if need be, but it must, if not remain four seperate stands, have a design which pays homage to that (see Sampdoria's ground when they rebuilt it for the 1990 WC, that sort of thing).

Filling in the bits around the north stand would almost certainly be structurally extremely challenging (and therefore expensive) and look shite.
I don't think we have the land foorprint to have 4 huge stands with a big enough capacity without filling in the corners.  I would have thought a horse shoewith a stand alone Holte as a focal point would work really well.

But the owners will wait to see how things eveolve over the next 12-18 months at least and I think that is absolutely the right thing to do.

On another point, I think the 7,000 waiting list is a bit of a myth.  They had to release approx the first 4,000 on the waiting list to sell the last 1,000 season tickets.  I don't think for a minute there's 7k people willing, ready and able to buy a season ticket right now.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 25, 2019, 09:50:12 AM
Digbeth is Nose country.

Maybe when they're at home, for about an hour after the game. Not the other 340 or so days a year.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Mister E on July 25, 2019, 10:11:35 AM
...
For me and most other fans, staying put is a must.  We have the infrastructure and accessibility as shown in the past when weíve hit gates of between late 40s to 60 odd thousand.

I would be happy to somehow add 5000-10,000 by tweaking the existing ground, filling in the corners etc.  We have great land at the back of the NS and weíre possibly missing a trick by not taking advantage of it fully.  Perhaps an additional 5,000-10,000 would act as a stop gap for a while to allow time to evaluate whether a complete redevelopment of the NS and ground behind is viable.

Imagine (or dream) if we could make a real impact on the top 6 again.  50,000 gates are far from being unrealistic.  I have no idea of the revenue in comparison to initial outlay but with a rebuild NS, there is scope for more hospitality areas.  Not everyone likes hospitality but we all have to accept that itís part of modern football.
All well and good.
The biggest challenge VP has now is accommodating car-parking. As someone who comes in every home game form the North, I'm finding I have to arrive 2.5-3 hours ahead of kick-off to get a decent parking space.
I'd also add that I think growing the merchandising around the ground gives matchday more of a carnival 'feel' and this develops the whole experience.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Brassneck on July 25, 2019, 10:49:18 AM
Up to 1.5 hours will guarantee you a parking space where we park. Normally there are spaces at 2 pm, 10 minutes from the ground.

Obviously, as with any event, the later you leave it, the further away you will need to park.  There are literally hundreds of sites offering parking.  I would put our parking options up there with most grounds.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Kimaster1976 on July 25, 2019, 11:04:00 AM
You can however be sat in traffic for 2 hours after a game before you even reach the motorway.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on July 25, 2019, 11:11:22 AM
Plenty of Villa frequent Digbeth, and I've seen more opposition fans in Digbeth pubs after nose home games than the noses themselves. (When the scum last played newcastle comes immediately to mind). Remember the City is Ours.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: mr underhill on July 25, 2019, 11:15:04 AM
that's just a terrace chant. It's a no to anywhere other than where we are.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Brassneck on July 25, 2019, 11:25:02 AM
You can however be sat in traffic for 2 hours after a game before you even reach the motorway.

What????

The worst Iíve ever experinced was 15 minutes when we played Leeds 2 seasons ago and they held the traffic up to escort their coaches out.

Where the hell do you park and where the hell are you at 7 oíclock on a Saturday game or midnight for a midweek game?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 25, 2019, 11:38:56 AM
Maybe he is actually sitting in traffic, as he doesn't have a car?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Brassneck on July 25, 2019, 11:41:16 AM
Maybe he is actually sitting in traffic, as he doesn't have a car?

Good point.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: CJ on July 25, 2019, 11:59:27 AM
You can however be sat in traffic for 2 hours after a game before you even reach the motorway.

What????

The worst Iíve ever experinced was 15 minutes when we played Leeds 2 seasons ago and they held the traffic up to escort their coaches out.

Where the hell do you park and where the hell are you at 7 oíclock on a Saturday game or midnight for a midweek game?

I've parked at King Edwards for years now, and if it's a big crowd it takes me upwards of an hour just to get from King Edwards to Park Circus. I don't like to 'leave early to miss the traffic'!
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Risso on July 25, 2019, 12:06:23 PM
You can however be sat in traffic for 2 hours after a game before you even reach the motorway.

What? ???

The worst Iíve ever experinced was 15 minutes when we played Leeds 2 seasons ago and they held the traffic up to escort their coaches out.

Where the hell do you park and where the hell are you at 7 oíclock on a Saturday game or midnight for a midweek game?

I parked at the ground for the Leeds home game as I was in the 82 Lounge.  Gave it an hour after kick off hour before we left, and it still took an hour to get to the motorway, All of the roads immediately around VP were absolutely gridlocked.  The trouble is, a lot of the surrounding side streets are too small to comfortably get two cars passing down them, so they get blocked and that has a knock on effect everywhere.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Brassneck on July 25, 2019, 12:11:26 PM
You can however be sat in traffic for 2 hours after a game before you even reach the motorway.

What????

The worst Iíve ever experinced was 15 minutes when we played Leeds 2 seasons ago and they held the traffic up to escort their coaches out.

Where the hell do you park and where the hell are you at 7 oíclock on a Saturday game or midnight for a midweek game?

I've parked at King Edwards for years now, and if it's a big crowd it takes me upwards of an hour just to get from King Edwards to Park Circus. I don't like to 'leave early to miss the traffic'!

Iíd recommend you change your parking spot then.  I park not far from KE and every time I get to the A38 island after a game, I always ask myself why in Godís name would anyone want to put themselves in that bottleneck every other week.

I never leave early (sometimes I would if I wasnít waiting for my lift) I rarely encounter any problems getting away.  Sometimes we have to drop my nephew back at his university digs in selly oak and usually, the worst traffic we hit is getting through the underpasses and the first bit of Bristol Road.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Brassneck on July 25, 2019, 12:15:10 PM
You can however be sat in traffic for 2 hours after a game before you even reach the motorway.

What? ???

The worst Iíve ever experinced was 15 minutes when we played Leeds 2 seasons ago and they held the traffic up to escort their coaches out.

Where the hell do you park and where the hell are you at 7 oíclock on a Saturday game or midnight for a midweek game?

I parked at the ground for the Leeds home game as I was in the 82 Lounge.  Gave it an hour after kick off hour before we left, and it still took an hour to get to the motorway, All of the roads immediately around VP were absolutely gridlocked.  The trouble is, a lot of the surrounding side streets are too small to comfortably get two cars passing down them, so they get blocked and that has a knock on effect everywhere.

I was on about the night game, the season before. There must have been some roadworks on Lichfield Road or at spaghetti.  Their coaches were brought towards town and onto the A38 at The KE roundabout.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: KRS on July 25, 2019, 02:01:10 PM
I always park at Star City. Itís a 25-30 minute walk but always get a spot and escape the traffic easily enough. Options for pre or post match refreshments and entertainment too.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 25, 2019, 04:43:09 PM
In light of recent events, I have changed my mind about us expanding a couple of stands to bring capacity up to 50,000.

Expand all four and let's be bigger than the Nou Camp, please.

#announcemassivefuckoffground
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 25, 2019, 04:45:54 PM
In light of recent events, I have changed my mind about us expanding a couple of stands to bring capacity up to 50,000.

Expand all four and let's be bigger than the Nou Camp, please.

#announcemassivefuckoffground

If that's what you want #announcecdwolvesfan
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 25, 2019, 07:42:24 PM
I wouldn't be able to get a ticket at the Neux Camp, I wasn't one of the 200,000 who watched them in the Fourth Division.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: SoccerHQ on July 25, 2019, 10:12:07 PM
...
For me and most other fans, staying put is a must.  We have the infrastructure and accessibility as shown in the past when weíve hit gates of between late 40s to 60 odd thousand.

I would be happy to somehow add 5000-10,000 by tweaking the existing ground, filling in the corners etc.  We have great land at the back of the NS and weíre possibly missing a trick by not taking advantage of it fully.  Perhaps an additional 5,000-10,000 would act as a stop gap for a while to allow time to evaluate whether a complete redevelopment of the NS and ground behind is viable.

Imagine (or dream) if we could make a real impact on the top 6 again.  50,000 gates are far from being unrealistic.  I have no idea of the revenue in comparison to initial outlay but with a rebuild NS, there is scope for more hospitality areas.  Not everyone likes hospitality but we all have to accept that itís part of modern football.
All well and good.
The biggest challenge VP has now is accommodating car-parking. As someone who comes in every home game form the North, I'm finding I have to arrive 2.5-3 hours ahead of kick-off to get a decent parking space.
I'd also add that I think growing the merchandising around the ground gives matchday more of a carnival 'feel' and this develops the whole experience.

Always surprised me the club have never run a shuttle service from Star City. I get a lift from there on midweek games and always plenty of fans walking back that way so clearly plenty parking with the huge amount of spaces on offer.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 25, 2019, 10:15:01 PM
...
For me and most other fans, staying put is a must.  We have the infrastructure and accessibility as shown in the past when weíve hit gates of between late 40s to 60 odd thousand.

I would be happy to somehow add 5000-10,000 by tweaking the existing ground, filling in the corners etc.  We have great land at the back of the NS and weíre possibly missing a trick by not taking advantage of it fully.  Perhaps an additional 5,000-10,000 would act as a stop gap for a while to allow time to evaluate whether a complete redevelopment of the NS and ground behind is viable.

Imagine (or dream) if we could make a real impact on the top 6 again.  50,000 gates are far from being unrealistic.  I have no idea of the revenue in comparison to initial outlay but with a rebuild NS, there is scope for more hospitality areas.  Not everyone likes hospitality but we all have to accept that itís part of modern football.
All well and good.
The biggest challenge VP has now is accommodating car-parking. As someone who comes in every home game form the North, I'm finding I have to arrive 2.5-3 hours ahead of kick-off to get a decent parking space.
I'd also add that I think growing the merchandising around the ground gives matchday more of a carnival 'feel' and this develops the whole experience.

Always surprised me the club have never run a shuttle service from Star City. I get a lift from there on midweek games and always plenty of fans walking back that way so clearly plenty parking with the huge amount of spaces on offer.

Probably because Star City don't want to encourage people using their car park.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: KRS on July 25, 2019, 10:25:12 PM
They usually have ďfree matchday parkingĒ signs at the entrance.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 25, 2019, 10:41:29 PM
You can however be sat in traffic for 2 hours after a game before you even reach the motorway.

What? ???

The worst Iíve ever experinced was 15 minutes when we played Leeds 2 seasons ago and they held the traffic up to escort their coaches out.

Where the hell do you park and where the hell are you at 7 oíclock on a Saturday game or midnight for a midweek game?

I parked at the ground for the Leeds home game as I was in the 82 Lounge.  Gave it an hour after kick off hour before we left, and it still took an hour to get to the motorway, All of the roads immediately around VP were absolutely gridlocked.  The trouble is, a lot of the surrounding side streets are too small to comfortably get two cars passing down them, so they get blocked and that has a knock on effect everywhere.

The last season, we had a routine of boozing / lunching in town, then getting an uber to the game (a fiver) and then a cab back from Trinity Road after. Basically, as you say, there's nowhere near enough room to get two cars down most of those roads and certainly not to turn around in them, so there's no way I'd try it in my own car, but am happy to pay someone who is prepared to do it with theirs £8 to take me back to town.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 25, 2019, 10:48:20 PM
We're going to have to get used to the London idea of getting public transport for at least part of the journey.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: AV82EC on July 25, 2019, 11:07:59 PM
We're going to have to get used to the London idea of getting public transport for at least part of the journey.

If they get public transport sorted then maybe. Isnít that new Sprint Bus thing going down the Lichfield Road?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: TonyD on July 25, 2019, 11:16:19 PM
We're going to have to get used to the London idea of getting public transport for at least part of the journey.
And maybe walking a bit.....controversial...
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: SoccerHQ on July 26, 2019, 12:15:25 AM
To me part of the pre match routine is walking 10-15 minutes to the ground, approaching and seeing the Trinity coming into view or Holte pub if I'm coming from the station. Great on an evening of course with the floodlights shining in the distance.

Not the same if you just park in the back streets round by Witton station.

Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Villafirst on July 26, 2019, 04:15:14 AM
I wouldn't be able to get a ticket at the Neux Camp, I wasn't one of the 200,000 who watched them in the Fourth Division.

They didn't even sell out last night against the mighty Crusaders in their first European tie in 40 years! I found it amusing watching the pre-match Sky coverage outside the ground with lots of Noddy Holder lookalikes entering the Stadium.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Flin5tone on July 26, 2019, 02:32:49 PM
My Season Ticket arrived this morning. Gone are the days of a fancy welcome pack. Card stuck to a sheet of A4
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: aldridgeboy on July 26, 2019, 02:41:37 PM
I wouldn't be able to get a ticket at the Neux Camp, I wasn't one of the 200,000 who watched them in the Fourth Division.


Applause. 👏🏻👏🏻👍
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Chris Smith on July 26, 2019, 02:43:58 PM
We're going to have to get used to the London idea of getting public transport for at least part of the journey.

Been doing it for years on the cross city line. The majority of the stations have decent car parks so you donít need to live in close proximity. Iím fortunate in that I can walk to one but if I didnít I would either drive or get a cab to Selly Oak, as it has the most space, and travel on from there. After the game there is a big rush for the first train but if youíre not in a hurry go for a pint or two and the subsequent trains are all fine.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: villabear on July 26, 2019, 06:46:04 PM
Went online at 17.15 to get Everton tickets. Managed to get two tickets together upper Holte K7. Pretty much single tickets in Holte. Bit more choice in other stands but obviously more expensive.

Going to have to move sharpish in future if more than two of us want to go.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on July 26, 2019, 08:08:22 PM
Claret Membership sorted this week plus tickets ordered for Bournemouth and Everton - looking forward to being back at Villa Park again but not relishing the journey there and back down the M57,M62 and M6
Maybe I should consider returning to Brum in my retirement :)
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ads on July 26, 2019, 08:11:51 PM
It's a lot easier now the M6 from J19-16 is 4 lanes.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on July 26, 2019, 08:28:20 PM
It's a lot easier now the M6 from J19-16 is 4 lanes.
Cheers for that - I don't get to travel that way much these days - jnr is off down that way tomorrow so will feed back
Out of interest what time would you be hitting the road for the Everton game at home or would you be on half a day?
Jnr could be working anywhere in the North West on that Friday and will be hoping for a handy finish/early dart
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: mr underhill on July 26, 2019, 08:30:23 PM
I'd probably leave on Thursday, just  to be sure. The M6 on a Friday is murder.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on July 26, 2019, 08:37:24 PM
I'd probably leave on Thursday, just  to be sure. The M6 on a Friday is murder.
:) Looks like a half day for jnr then
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Risso on July 26, 2019, 10:24:33 PM
It's a lot easier now the M6 from J19-16 is 4 lanes.

Shame that everything south of there is such a nightmare.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: AV82EC on July 26, 2019, 10:49:50 PM
It's a lot easier now the M6 from J19-16 is 4 lanes.

Shame that everything south of there is such a nightmare.

Itís not that bad, set the cruise control to 54 and relax from 15-13, then floor it again. I can do Wilmslow to VP in about 1hr 15 most trips.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ads on July 26, 2019, 11:28:13 PM
It's a lot easier now the M6 from J19-16 is 4 lanes.
Cheers for that - I don't get to travel that way much these days - jnr is off down that way tomorrow so will feed back
Out of interest what time would you be hitting the road for the Everton game at home or would you be on half a day?
Jnr could be working anywhere in the North West on that Friday and will be hoping for a handy finish/early dart

If it was a Friday, I'd take a half day at work.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ads on July 26, 2019, 11:29:30 PM
It's a lot easier now the M6 from J19-16 is 4 lanes.

Shame that everything south of there is such a nightmare.

Itís not that bad, set the cruise control to 54 and relax from 15-13, then floor it again. I can do Wilmslow to VP in about 1hr 15 most trips.

Yeah, for some reason the roadworks from Stoke down dont seem anywhere near as bad as what the Cheshire ones were.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: KRS on July 27, 2019, 10:27:48 AM
Went online at 17.15 to get Everton tickets. Managed to get two tickets together upper Holte K7. Pretty much single tickets in Holte. Bit more choice in other stands but obviously more expensive.

Going to have to move sharpish in future if more than two of us want to go.
Completely forgot about the claret membership release for Everton tickets until the early hours this morning. There were only a few left in the upper Holte and was lucky enough to get 2 relatively close to each other in K3.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Risso on July 27, 2019, 10:31:53 AM
It's a lot easier now the M6 from J19-16 is 4 lanes.

Shame that everything south of there is such a nightmare.

Itís not that bad, set the cruise control to 54 and relax from 15-13, then floor it again. I can do Wilmslow to VP in about 1hr 15 most trips.

Yeah, for some reason the roadworks from Stoke down dont seem anywhere near as bad as what the Cheshire ones were.

I think it feels worse when I come home because I've got all the ones around Cov as well, where there quite often seems to be gridlock when I'm doing it.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: amfy on July 27, 2019, 11:11:49 AM
It's a lot easier now the M6 from J19-16 is 4 lanes.

But from 16 - 13 they are still converting it and itís all 50mph!

Tbf - it doesnít seem to make loads of difference because it seems to work as traffic management and stop ghost jams. It feels worst when itís not busy and you have to concentrate really hard not to go over 50.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Arsey on July 30, 2019, 04:31:57 PM
Does anyone know anything about selling back season ticket seats to games they cannot make?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ad@m on July 30, 2019, 05:36:36 PM
Does anyone know anything about selling back season ticket seats to games they cannot make?

Keep up!

It would be nice if the club pulled it's collective finger out of its arse and sorted out the ticket resale process.  I'm on holiday for the Bournemouth game and would quite like to flog my season ticket on but months after being told an announcement was imminent there's still no way of selling my ticket to someone else.

Well there kind of is.

You can ask the club to download them to a paper ticket saying that you want to Ďpass them oní to a friend or family member as you canít go.

Then someone on here will probably pay you for them as even if they can get a ticket from the club it wonít be as good as yours!


Can you do this via the website or do you need to phone ticket office?

Phone the ticket office, that's what I've always done, only option.

To be fair, it's really, really straightforward and takes about 30 seconds. They just deactivate your card and email you a PDF print-at-home ticket. I'd suggest not mentioning selling it, though.

I did it a few times last season as I was unable to make a few games and generally gave them to one of the Villa fans in the office.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: AV82EC on July 30, 2019, 06:29:56 PM
I thought they said there was going to be a ticket reselling scheme so the club would do it on your behalf?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on July 30, 2019, 06:39:41 PM
They did and I have been assured by someone with some clout in the ticket office that reselling ssn ticket seats for individual games will be in place for the Bournemouth game. We'll soon see if they are true to their word.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: purpletrousers on July 30, 2019, 06:49:43 PM


According to the FAQ 1/23rd of the ST value if they sell:
https://www.avfc.co.uk/Tickets/season-tickets/season-tickets-faqs

Quote
Will I be able to sell my seat via a seat resale programme for games I cannot attend?

Supporters have the benefit of being able to sell their seat using the clubs seat resale programme for matches they are unable to attend.

Supporters can list tickets in advance and may receive 1/23rd of the cost of their season ticket back as a BACS payment subject to seat being resold.

More information will be communicated before the new season.

hopefully gets sorted very soon.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Richard on July 30, 2019, 06:52:18 PM
1/23rd sounds suspiciously like last season as there were 23 home games
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: purpletrousers on July 30, 2019, 07:00:14 PM
1/23rd sounds suspiciously like last season as there were 23 home games
Would make sense, though I presumed it was just them taking their cut?

Another question:

Can anyone let me know what "Enrol your season ticket into the Free Ticket for Season Ticket holders 1920 now!" is ?
Is it "First home cup game free of charge" (https://www.avfc.co.uk/Tickets/season-tickets/benefits), and if so presumably it's only the first home round we are in of the League cup, or failing that a home FA Cup, rather than *your* first home cup game if there are multiples?

Last time I had a ST I stood on a milk crate...

Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 30, 2019, 08:13:42 PM
Am I being too cynical if I was to say that you'll get back 1/19 of your season ticket but the tickets will then be sold at matchday prices?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 30, 2019, 08:18:10 PM
Am I being too cynical if I was to say that you'll get back 1/19 of your season ticket but the tickets will then be sold at matchday prices?

That sounds fair enough to me, to be honest.

Any other way and you're making a profit on it.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 30, 2019, 08:19:28 PM
Am I being too cynical if I was to say that you'll get back 1/19 of your season ticket but the tickets will then be sold at matchday prices?

That sounds fair enough to me, to be honest.

Any other way and you're making a profit on it.

They could always sell the tickets for what they paid. Anything else and they'll be touting.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ad@m on July 30, 2019, 08:27:01 PM
Am I being too cynical if I was to say that you'll get back 1/19 of your season ticket but the tickets will then be sold at matchday prices?

That sounds fair enough to me, to be honest.

Any other way and you're making a profit on it.

They could always sell the tickets for what they paid. Anything else and they'll be touting.

I wouldn't say you were being cynical. But I'd definitely say you were being naive to think they'd do anything but!
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: AV82EC on July 30, 2019, 11:35:27 PM
Am I being too cynical if I was to say that you'll get back 1/19 of your season ticket but the tickets will then be sold at matchday prices?

Iíd say youíre spot on but they do need to take a cut for admin etc. Ultimately theyíll probably make a bit on it as well but I wouldnít have thought it would be massively profitable for them.

Also it does mean the club takes the profit that may have gone to an enterprising fan or tout.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ad@m on July 30, 2019, 11:51:14 PM
Am I being too cynical if I was to say that you'll get back 1/19 of your season ticket but the tickets will then be sold at matchday prices?

Iíd say youíre spot on but they do need to take a cut for admin etc. Ultimately theyíll probably make a bit on it as well but I wouldnít have thought it would be massively profitable for them.

Also it does mean the club takes the profit that may have gone to an enterprising fan or tout.

I really don't think this is an issue.

If the club hadn't sold that season ticket they'd be selling the ticket for the same price as all the others.  If a season ticket holder doesn't attend is it any surprise they'd sell the ticket for the same price as all the others?

Put another way, how daft would the club look to have two price categories for seats next to each other, just because one was originally bought by a season ticket holder and the other wasn't?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: chrisw1 on July 31, 2019, 09:05:01 AM
Why should the club take on the admin of selling an already sold season ticket and then undercut their own prices of available seats in the process?  That would be madness.  I canít believe people are making an issue of this.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Dave P on July 31, 2019, 09:49:54 AM
Mine come this morning so they are obviously in the process of sending them out.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: UK Redsox on July 31, 2019, 10:29:20 AM
Mine come this morning so they are obviously in the process of sending them out.

Did you get any goodies or just the card ?

I think that the only Season Ticket freebies that were any use to me was the year that we had vouchers for free pies/drinks
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Dave P on July 31, 2019, 10:43:51 AM
Mine come this morning so they are obviously in the process of sending them out.

Did you get any goodies or just the card ?

I think that the only Season Ticket freebies that were any use to me was the year that we had vouchers for free pies/drinks

Literally just the card and a covering letter.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Towser on July 31, 2019, 10:51:17 AM
Mine come this morning so they are obviously in the process of sending them out.

Did you get any goodies or just the card ?

I think that the only Season Ticket freebies that were any use to me was the year that we had vouchers for free pies/drinks

I received just the new card and a letter, no other goodies included.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: chrisw1 on July 31, 2019, 02:30:11 PM
Fuck it.  Was hoping for free pies.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: exigo on August 01, 2019, 07:55:16 PM
Mine arrived today as well. I quite like the fact it's just a letter and the card.
Feels nicely old-school. It's like scoring a brilliant goal and just shaking hands on the way back to the restart.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: purpletrousers on August 04, 2019, 06:17:43 PM
So am on the look out for
1) cost of upgrading my Dadís 65+ ST to adult if heís not up to making any games
2) any restriction as to how often itís allowed
3) re-sale process

Will message @AVFCsupport on twitter and share any updates, but curious if anybody had any news, FAQs havenít been updated but thatís not necessarily indicative it seems...
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: pooligan on August 04, 2019, 06:37:32 PM
My season ticket arrived yesterday. I like that it is claret and nice and small
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: eamonn on August 04, 2019, 09:28:22 PM
Mine arrived today as well. I quite like the fact it's just a letter and the card.
Feels nicely old-school. It's like scoring a brilliant goal and just shaking hands on the way back to the restart.

Fantastic 👏
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Des Little on August 04, 2019, 10:19:16 PM
Letís face it, all the tat that came with STs in the past was straight in the bin anyway.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Dogtanian on August 05, 2019, 10:32:42 AM
So am on the look out for
1) cost of upgrading my Dadís 65+ ST to adult if heís not up to making any games
2) any restriction as to how often itís allowed
3) re-sale process

Will message @AVFCsupport on twitter and share any updates, but curious if anybody had any news, FAQs havenít been updated but thatís not necessarily indicative it seems...

When I have asked about upgrading an under-18 to an adult, they told me it's just the cost difference between the two categories.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: john e on August 05, 2019, 11:30:51 AM
So am on the look out for
1) cost of upgrading my Dadís 65+ ST to adult if heís not up to making any games
2) any restriction as to how often itís allowed
3) re-sale process

Will message @AVFCsupport on twitter and share any updates, but curious if anybody had any news, FAQs havenít been updated but thatís not necessarily indicative it seems...

When I have asked about upgrading an under-18 to an adult, they told me it's just the cost difference between the two categories.

yep they told me that too

i think you have to ring in though or visit the ticket office you cant do it on-line
think they send the upgrades out as an e ticket
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: dalians umbrella on August 05, 2019, 02:02:24 PM
if you already have a season ticket, are you meant to receive anything at all, albeit a letter or email, because I haven't received anything since the confirmation email when I renewed.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: UK Redsox on August 05, 2019, 02:17:30 PM
if you already have a season ticket, are you meant to receive anything at all, albeit a letter or email, because I haven't received anything since the confirmation email when I renewed.

I'm assuming that it's just the original confirmation email
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: not3bad on August 05, 2019, 02:24:15 PM
if you already have a season ticket, are you meant to receive anything at all, albeit a letter or email, because I haven't received anything since the confirmation email when I renewed.

Will you get a text message or email to confirm your ST is reactivated for this season?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Dogtanian on August 05, 2019, 02:31:54 PM
Most years they have replaced my season card even though there hasn't really been a need to.

On the few occasions they haven't, they have still sent me the pack without a new card and just said in the letter to use my existing card.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Arsey on August 06, 2019, 10:55:47 AM
Am I being too cynical if I was to say that you'll get back 1/19 of your season ticket but the tickets will then be sold at matchday prices?

That sounds fair enough to me, to be honest.

Any other way and you're making a profit on it.

you can now request Villa your sell season ticket seats for the Bournemouth via logging into your account on website. Itís a bit of a faff as i had to do it separately for all the kids ones too.

You get 80% back of 1/19th of the cost of the season ticket, if i read it correctly.

Bloody annoying season starts so early
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: dalians umbrella on August 06, 2019, 12:07:28 PM
Most years they have replaced my season card even though there hasn't really been a need to.

On the few occasions they haven't, they have still sent me the pack without a new card and just said in the letter to use my existing card.

Have you received anything like this, this year?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Dogtanian on August 06, 2019, 12:26:51 PM
Nah, not had anything yet unless Postie brings it this afternoon.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ad@m on August 06, 2019, 12:28:04 PM
Am I being too cynical if I was to say that you'll get back 1/19 of your season ticket but the tickets will then be sold at matchday prices?

That sounds fair enough to me, to be honest.

Any other way and you're making a profit on it.

you can now request Villa your sell season ticket seats for the Bournemouth via logging into your account on website. Itís a bit of a faff as i had to do it separately for all the kids ones too.

You get 80% back of 1/19th of the cost of the season ticket, if i read it correctly.

Bloody annoying season starts so early

80%?!  That makes Viagogo seem like value for money.

On a £500 season ticket that's over a fiver you get charged for the club selling your ticket!  I get that the difference here is that the club are buying your ticket with no guarantee of being able to sell it on whereas with Viagogo they took zero risk over the resale but a 20% charge still seems pretty steep.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Dogtanian on August 06, 2019, 12:39:04 PM
The 80% probably looks at the likelihood of being able to re-sell all of the unwanted seats, as well as possibility that the person buying it may not be in the same category of purchaser.  So for instance, mine in K4 is £33 for Everton, but if someone buys it for their kid then that's only £10 Villa are going to get for it, yet they'd be paying me about £25 back.

Now that's the extreme, but it has to be taken into account how often that can happen.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: GordonCowansisthegreatest on August 06, 2019, 12:42:51 PM
Put it on here for 1/19th of ST price. I don't think you'd have much trouble selling it.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: dalians umbrella on August 06, 2019, 12:55:58 PM
how do they pay you? Is it real money to your bank account or is it loaded onto your season ticket to buy pies with.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: mr underhill on August 06, 2019, 01:27:20 PM
i phoned this morning to get confirmation that my season ticket had uploaded to my card as I had received nothing since renewing in February. The guy said that people keeping the same seat i don't get any further communication and referred me to  the confirmatory email issued at the time, which I did keep. He was a cheery chap and ended the phone call with a nice 'Up the Villa!'
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 06, 2019, 01:29:13 PM
Letís face it, all the tat that came with STs in the past was straight in the bin anyway.

Remember that weird DVD with military style drumming soundtrack they sent out in the early Lerner years?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: eamonn on August 06, 2019, 02:19:36 PM
Sounds like a sequel to that 90s mid-season VHS called "Squaddies" with Andy Townshend and a few others all dressed-up in camouflage gear and warpaint.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Bren'd on August 06, 2019, 02:59:57 PM
Letís face it, all the tat that came with STs in the past was straight in the bin anyway.

Remember that weird DVD with military style drumming soundtrack they sent out in the early Lerner years?

I've got mine in the drawer along with the stickers, badges and vouchers for pies and coffee or whatever.  Worth a fortune in years to come
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Arsey on August 06, 2019, 05:06:24 PM
how do they pay you? Is it real money to your bank account or is it loaded onto your season ticket to buy pies with.


bank transfer

I suppose there is some admin costs on their end but happy the seats will not be wasted for a sell out game and that iím getting something back.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: dalians umbrella on August 06, 2019, 05:28:54 PM
Thanks Arsey, Dogtanian and UKRedsox for your various replies.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: purpletrousers on August 06, 2019, 09:25:54 PM
Thanks Arsey, Dogtanian and UKRedsox for your various replies.
thanks from me too :)
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: SoccerHQ on August 06, 2019, 10:06:56 PM
Letís face it, all the tat that came with STs in the past was straight in the bin anyway.

Remember that weird DVD with military style drumming soundtrack they sent out in the early Lerner years?

That was the "Proud History Bright future" era I think.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Dogtanian on August 07, 2019, 06:38:32 AM
Letís face it, all the tat that came with STs in the past was straight in the bin anyway.

I did like the little round stamped metal lion badge for season ticket holders they started doing.  Apparently you got it with your first one ( or if you were existing ST holder got it the year they started sending them ) and those with ten years of season tickets get a gold-coloured one.

No idea if they still do those, though this is my tenth year so will see if I get one!
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: purpletrousers on August 07, 2019, 09:19:41 AM
No Lion token for me as a new (at least this decade) ST holder, so I wouldnít hold your breath for the carriage clock. It would be a nice touch for more committed fans, even a simple letter to acknowledge?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Dogtanian on August 07, 2019, 09:25:50 AM
That's a shame.  I'm wearing my silver-coloured one to Spurs on Saturday as will be in a box with Spurs fans and we are barred from wearing opposition colours.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Bren'd on August 07, 2019, 09:32:47 AM
No Lion token for me as a new (at least this decade) ST holder, so I wouldnít hold your breath for the carriage clock. It would be a nice touch for more committed fans, even a simple letter to acknowledge?

If you applied that logic to every part of your life your house would be full of badges. From the bank to the milkman. Stick with the same insurers for a number of years and your reward is a price hike.
If a badge is important to you a couple of quid will sort it out.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: UK Redsox on August 07, 2019, 09:38:11 AM
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: mr underhill on August 07, 2019, 10:00:24 AM
that particular promotion wasn't a roaring success.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Dogtanian on August 07, 2019, 10:42:21 AM
If you applied that logic to every part of your life your house would be full of badges. From the bank to the milkman. Stick with the same insurers for a number of years and your reward is a price hike.
If a badge is important to you a couple of quid will sort it out.

Wow...  ::)
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: purpletrousers on August 07, 2019, 11:09:42 AM
No Lion token for me as a new (at least this decade) ST holder, so I wouldnít hold your breath for the carriage clock. It would be a nice touch for more committed fans, even a simple letter to acknowledge?

If you applied that logic to every part of your life your house would be full of badges. From the bank to the milkman. Stick with the same insurers for a number of years and your reward is a price hike.
If a badge is important to you a couple of quid will sort it out.

Itís not, it was a response to a question, though recognising loyalty in a fanbase is rarely a poor move. I do still have an early 80s letter (and complimentary club diary) from the Villa I got when I was ?7 years old, apologising for an unplanned closure of the club shop after my Dad complained Iíd obviously been a bit gutted by a wasted trip. I guess that kind of thoughtfulness and attention to detail is the sort of class I associate/hope for from Villa, but no real issue here...
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Flin5tone on August 07, 2019, 11:45:59 AM
Speaking to someone at the ticket office it was purely down to demand and the time it would take for 'packs' to be produced. Card & A4 paper written and printed at VP.

Free flags / scarves etc will be given out over the season as a 'Thank You'
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Dogtanian on August 07, 2019, 11:53:24 AM
Hate flags.  >:(
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: UK Redsox on August 07, 2019, 03:19:03 PM
Hate flags.  >:(

Did they give us flags on the night of the Ajax game or was it just overpriced programmes and general hyping of a competition that Villa then bailed on ?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 07, 2019, 05:50:15 PM
CSKA was flags iirc.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: rougegorge on August 07, 2019, 06:23:14 PM
We could get clappers like Leicester :-[ . Huddersfield and Fulham copied that idea and look what happened to them
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Dogtanian on August 07, 2019, 06:59:06 PM
Grrrr! Awful.

Flags are bad enough, but you know youíre at a small-time club when there are clappers, or even worse, a drummer.  :'(
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 07, 2019, 11:56:55 PM
We needs drums and trumpets so as we can do this.

Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Dogtanian on August 08, 2019, 06:57:05 AM
We needs drums and trumpets so as we can do this.



Donít get why theyíd happily give out points deductions for losing money, yet happily let this kind of thing go on in modern football.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: avfc456 on August 08, 2019, 12:50:54 PM
Has there been any announcement on the ticket exchange for ST holders to list individual games?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ad@m on August 08, 2019, 01:23:47 PM
Has there been any announcement on the ticket exchange for ST holders to list individual games?

Yep.

Am I being too cynical if I was to say that you'll get back 1/19 of your season ticket but the tickets will then be sold at matchday prices?

That sounds fair enough to me, to be honest.

Any other way and you're making a profit on it.

you can now request Villa your sell season ticket seats for the Bournemouth via logging into your account on website. Itís a bit of a faff as i had to do it separately for all the kids ones too.

You get 80% back of 1/19th of the cost of the season ticket, if i read it correctly.

Bloody annoying season starts so early
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: mr underhill on August 08, 2019, 04:31:08 PM
just had an email from the club confirming that my ST had been updated - first I've heard since renewing in February.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: UK Redsox on August 08, 2019, 04:49:13 PM
just had an email from the club confirming that my ST had been updated - first I've heard since renewing in February.

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thank you for showing your support by purchasing a 2019/20 Season Ticket.

You'll be joining 30,000 Villans who have all commited to the Club - a record breaking number of Season Ticket Holders.

Although you don't need a new card for this season, we wanted to let you know that your card has been uploaded with all the games for the 2019/20 Premier League Campaign.

Please note that these cards are to be used across multiple seasons, so please keep hold of them at the end of the campaign.

Thank you again for your marvellous support.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: UK Redsox on August 08, 2019, 04:50:28 PM
We could get clappers like Leicester :-[ . Huddersfield and Fulham copied that idea and look what happened to them

Bobble heads, what we need is Bobbleheads.

Mr Shin should back me up on this
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: KRS on August 09, 2019, 02:13:23 PM
For anyone who has bought Claret Membership but not received their card and pack yet, Iíve just received this email from the club:
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<insert name>, your Membership Card isn't far away

If you haven't received your Membership Card yet then hold tight! We can assure you that your card will be on it's way very shortly and apologise for the delay.

You're part of a record breaking number of Members this season and we can't wait to see you all at Villa Park!

Should you not have received your Membership Card by the end of August, please contact our Ticket Office.

Membership benefits such as the £10 ticket voucher and Cub Members' free games can still be redeemed without the membership card.

Thank you for your tremendous support.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Bad English on August 09, 2019, 05:24:50 PM
I think we all have ;-)
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: SoccerHQ on August 09, 2019, 08:10:30 PM
Everton has made general sale....plenty of choice in Upper Trinity and about 100 seats in Upper Witton.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: KRS on August 09, 2019, 10:22:57 PM
Possibly because itís a Friday night?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: danno on August 09, 2019, 10:26:55 PM
Televised as well, that's bound to be a factor in a few people's decision to hold on to their £40.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Flin5tone on August 09, 2019, 10:35:26 PM
Be interesting to see how the crowds fair if we aren't doing well half way through the season if we have a midweek game. might regret capping those Season Tickets

Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ads on August 10, 2019, 12:40:20 AM
454 left with two weeks to go.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 10, 2019, 12:48:19 AM
Leeds would have sold out by now.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ads on August 10, 2019, 01:33:22 AM
They definitely would, as we've sold 41,000, 3.5k more than their monument to falling apart holds.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Dazvillain on August 10, 2019, 08:46:29 AM
Itís either a league or club rule to leave so many for matchday sale so that isnít the issue . I think the issue is the bloody cost of matchday tickets this year and as the matchday tickets are the only variable in filling the ground , those 8000 will have more of a sell out say than usual deciding to buy or not.
Itíll be interesting to see how many get sold for £50 at category A games, especially as some of those are more likely to be on tv. 
I know itís now more of a premium product and owners would want some investment return, but interesting as weíve never been in this financial luxury / squad investment for a long time
Anyway, supply/demand, great times nevertheless ,
UTV
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ads on August 10, 2019, 09:53:08 AM
Only 500 making it to general sale for a televised, weird kick off time, for a time of year where our home crowds are always down shows the level of support that the rest of the region could only ever dream of.

#levels
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Lastfootstamper on August 10, 2019, 09:53:53 AM
And is still a fortnight away.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: cheltenhamlion on August 10, 2019, 09:54:33 AM
454 left with two weeks to go.

Friday night, live on the telly, school holidays and a bank holiday weekend.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: lennythekad on August 10, 2019, 12:13:12 PM
188 left now
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ads on August 10, 2019, 09:23:28 PM
41 now.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: exigo on August 11, 2019, 10:10:16 AM
24 left.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: BlackCountryVilla on August 11, 2019, 07:40:42 PM
8 left....
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: stubbsyandy on August 12, 2019, 03:30:23 PM
I can't make the Bournemouth game, how do I resell my two seats?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Dogtanian on August 12, 2019, 03:35:38 PM
I can't make the Bournemouth game, how do I resell my two seats?

Isn't there something in the ticket shop on the website?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on August 12, 2019, 03:39:55 PM
Logon to the ticket hub, click on home games. Click on your name in the top right hand corner. This brings up all your details and under the alerts section is the re-sale ticket section. Click on the word "here" and then the games eligible for re-sale comes up. Everton is on there now as well as Bournemouth.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 12, 2019, 04:13:40 PM
Everton has now sold out.

Friday night, August, two weeks before the match takes place. That's pretty impressive.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: KRS on August 12, 2019, 04:20:19 PM
Good stuff. I canít make any games in September so looking forward to a full house roaring at both Bournemouth and Everton.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Dogtanian on August 12, 2019, 04:24:51 PM
They best re-open the bloody kiosks and stock well up on pies.

Five matches in a row I failed to get a balti pie last season, five!   >:(
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Bad English on August 12, 2019, 04:29:08 PM
Ace. Everton will be my French mate's first game. Although he got told "What the fuck do I care?" when he superfluously texted me to point out that Tottingham's equaliser was scored by a French international.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Dogtanian on August 12, 2019, 04:31:22 PM
Ace. Everton will be my French mate's first game. Although he got told "What the fuck do I care?" when he superfluously texted me to point out that Tottingham's equaliser was scored by a French international.

Has he taken up the claret and blue though?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Bad English on August 12, 2019, 05:43:19 PM
Yes, of course. I wouldn't be bringing him otherwise. He's joined the French Lions, bought a Villa ball and a Villa gnome. He tried to buy a Luke top towards the end of the season but there weren't any left.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Dogtanian on August 12, 2019, 06:14:03 PM
Haha bless him.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: thick_mike on August 12, 2019, 06:28:49 PM
I can't make the Bournemouth game, how do I resell my two seats?

Are you trying to mess up my GTC prediction?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Dazvillain on August 12, 2019, 06:55:23 PM
Sure Iíve read on villa website there is a method of resale system now in place ?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: exigo on August 12, 2019, 07:51:30 PM
Logon to the ticket hub, click on home games. Click on your name in the top right hand corner. This brings up all your details and under the alerts section is the re-sale ticket section. Click on the word "here" and then the games eligible for re-sale comes up. Everton is on there now as well as Bournemouth.

Exactly as above Ė looks like this:


(https://i.ibb.co/pzcHyN9/Screenshot-2019-08-12-at-19-50-42.png) (https://ibb.co/pzcHyN9)
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: stubbsyandy on August 13, 2019, 09:42:01 AM
I can't make the Bournemouth game, how do I resell my two seats?

Are you trying to mess up my GTC prediction?

Ha ha, nice one

Thanks for the help all, UTV
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: chrisw1 on August 13, 2019, 09:48:55 AM
They best re-open the bloody kiosks and stock well up on pies.

Five matches in a row I failed to get a balti pie last season, five!   >:(
Five?  I'd have been fuming.  There's no excuse for that.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Dogtanian on August 13, 2019, 09:57:20 AM
I was, utter madness.

I have a friend who owns a bakers shop and he tells me that they only put in the oven what they know they will definitely sell.  I pointed out that if they only ever put five of whatever in the oven, then how will they ever know they couldn't sell six?

I think that the whole thing is geared more to avoiding waste than it is to making sure customers get what they want, especially as it isn't like what they don't sell today they can sell tomorrow.

Maybe Bruce could have taken some home?   ;D
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ger Regan on August 13, 2019, 10:01:56 AM
Here's a (possibly stupid) question, does anyone know if "paper" tickets scan at the turnstiles from a phone or do i definitely have to print it out?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: KRS on August 13, 2019, 10:03:47 AM
I always use a print out but some on here have confirmed that using your phone works too.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Lastfootstamper on August 13, 2019, 10:13:21 AM
They work on your phone. Just make sure your screen's brightness isn't turned down, that's the only issue I've had.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 13, 2019, 10:18:10 AM
There is currently ONE seat available for the Everton game if anyone on here fancies moving fast!
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ger Regan on August 13, 2019, 10:27:15 AM
Cheers all. That's one less thing for me to forget.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: chrisw1 on August 13, 2019, 10:40:24 AM
I was, utter madness.

I have a friend who owns a bakers shop and he tells me that they only put in the oven what they know they will definitely sell.  I pointed out that if they only ever put five of whatever in the oven, then how will they ever know they couldn't sell six?

I think that the whole thing is geared more to avoiding waste than it is to making sure customers get what they want, especially as it isn't like what they don't sell today they can sell tomorrow.

Maybe Bruce could have taken some home?   ;D
I always feel catering is never maximised.  In the same way I'm sure that adding more staff would more than cover their costs given how many more beers they would sell if the queues were shorter. 
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Dogtanian on August 13, 2019, 10:46:42 AM
I was, utter madness.

I have a friend who owns a bakers shop and he tells me that they only put in the oven what they know they will definitely sell.  I pointed out that if they only ever put five of whatever in the oven, then how will they ever know they couldn't sell six?

I think that the whole thing is geared more to avoiding waste than it is to making sure customers get what they want, especially as it isn't like what they don't sell today they can sell tomorrow.

Maybe Bruce could have taken some home?   ;D
I always feel catering is never maximised.  In the same way I'm sure that adding more staff would more than cover their costs given how many more beers they would sell if the queues were shorter.

Alcohol would be an interesting one, because you can at least take your food to your seat if it takes you all of half-time to queue for it, but alcohol you then have to watch the match on the TV until you're finished, which probably puts some off.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: chrisw1 on August 13, 2019, 11:30:47 AM
I almost never have a pint at half time because of the queue.  If the wait was just a minute or so I'd probably have one most games.  I'm sure there must be loads of people in the same boat.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Edvard Remberg on August 13, 2019, 11:56:02 AM
I almost never have a pint at half time because of the queue.  If the wait was just a minute or so I'd probably have one most games.  I'm sure there must be loads of people in the same boat.
Absolutely - went to Allianz at Bayern and got served twice a pint at HT. At Villa I didn't manage to get one served before 2nd half kicked off.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: KRS on August 13, 2019, 11:56:47 AM
They best re-open the bloody kiosks and stock well up on pies.

Five matches in a row I failed to get a balti pie last season, five!   >:(
Five?  I'd have been fuming.  There's no excuse for that.
My pre-match ritual is a balti pie and a pint (or two). You may have been lucky to miss out on 5 pies in a row last season...some of the overcooked burnt concrete offerings I received in the Holte were beyond a joke! I wonít be mugged off with a dodgy pie so got replacements or refunds a few times...and the catering staff look suitably embarrassed that their thick as pig shit colleagues canít heat a pie at the correct temperature.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Risso on August 13, 2019, 11:58:56 AM
I was really expecting the Spurs stadium to be much better on the service point.  Pints already poured and served in seconds by an army of androids or something.  Instead it was the usual motley crew of minimum wage temps.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Dogtanian on August 13, 2019, 12:00:12 PM
I was really expecting the Spurs stadium to be much better on the service point.  Pints already poured and served in seconds by an army of androids or something.  Instead it was the usual motley crew of minimum wage temps.

Was excellent service in the boxes...  8)
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Risso on August 13, 2019, 12:03:03 PM
I was really expecting the Spurs stadium to be much better on the service point.  Pints already poured and served in seconds by an army of androids or something.  Instead it was the usual motley crew of minimum wage temps.

Was excellent service in the boxes...  8)

No it wasn't 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: exigo on August 13, 2019, 12:50:16 PM
Here's a (possibly stupid) question, does anyone know if "paper" tickets scan at the turnstiles from a phone or do i definitely have to print it out?

I got in using my phone for every game last season. I did have a print out just in case though.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Hookeysmith on August 13, 2019, 01:26:25 PM
I work in Stockport 3 times a week and tonight they are at home playing Barrow in what constitutes the Conference league so I fancied going along rather than sit in a hotel bar etc

£18 a ticket  :o

makes you appreciate VP a little more as value for money

Im not going now BTW
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ad@m on August 13, 2019, 01:47:39 PM
When you compare the relative proportion of their income that comes from gate receipts it makes more sense. I think it's a tenner to get in at Sutton Coldfield Town for the same reason!
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Hookeysmith on August 13, 2019, 02:47:37 PM
I thought £10- maybe £12 would have been reasonable but £18 I think is steep. And that is for all 4 areas of the ground its not like those are the expensive seats

Compare to Salford city who are in the actual League and it is £10 per game - I was going there instead but the game is sold out

Will watch in pub instead
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: danno on August 13, 2019, 03:00:56 PM
I thought £10- maybe £12 would have been reasonable but £18 I think is steep. And that is for all 4 areas of the ground its not like those are the expensive seats

Compare to Salford city who are in the actual League and it is £10 per game - I was going there instead but the game is sold out

Will watch in pub instead

That would be the same Salford city bankrolled by millionaires yes?

I'm not criticising your decision, I often think similar when I consider parting with £14 for a Tamworth game. But I do appreciate how much more urgently they need to generate money from tickets.

Pretty sure most Premier league clubs could survive comfortably just on TV money and merchandise sales. Hopefully the prices are reasonable in the pub you choose later!
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ad@m on August 13, 2019, 06:55:27 PM
I thought £10- maybe £12 would have been reasonable but £18 I think is steep. And that is for all 4 areas of the ground its not like those are the expensive seats

Compare to Salford city who are in the actual League and it is £10 per game - I was going there instead but the game is sold out

Will watch in pub instead

That would be the same Salford city bankrolled by millionaires yes?

I'm not criticising your decision, I often think similar when I consider parting with £14 for a Tamworth game. But I do appreciate how much more urgently they need to generate money from tickets.

Pretty sure most Premier league clubs could survive comfortably just on TV money and merchandise sales. Hopefully the prices are reasonable in the pub you choose later!

There was a report a year or two ago that said rather than survive, half the Premier League would still be profitable if they let everyone in for free.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: SoccerHQ on August 13, 2019, 07:17:40 PM
As long as the demand is there, they'll fleece fans for what they can get away with.

Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ad@m on August 13, 2019, 08:33:44 PM
I'm not sure there's massive demand for Stockport v Barrow!

Hookey probably could've had a stand to himself!
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: SoccerHQ on August 13, 2019, 09:12:28 PM
I'm not sure there's massive demand for Stockport v Barrow!

Hookey probably could've had a stand to himself!

Stockport are starting to rise again after a decade of misery (when I first started watching football in late 90s they were a solid mid table championship club and regularly beating Man. City).

Attendance tonight, 4,183. More than plenty of league cup ties I'd imagine.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: London Villan on August 13, 2019, 09:16:24 PM
About 10% of average PL revenue is gate receipts from normal seats, and itís getting less. For non-league the opposite is probably true.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 13, 2019, 09:25:50 PM
Conference clubs have the dilemma of either being full-time when they can't afford it or part-time and effectively saying they have no ambition. The only way to bridge that is to charge what might seem excessive prices.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Pat McMahon on August 13, 2019, 09:34:28 PM
My mate who is a Wednesday fan says the club uses this argument to justify their stratospheric prices at Hillsborough
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ad@m on August 13, 2019, 09:42:35 PM
My mate who is a Wednesday fan says the club uses this argument to justify their stratospheric prices at Hillsborough

If I worked for Sheff Wednesday if argue it was the cost of repairs on their ramshackle ground that drive ticket prices up!
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: London Villan on August 13, 2019, 09:44:29 PM
It was like going to a match in a time machine last season. Even down to the tuck shop underneath the stand.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 13, 2019, 10:32:29 PM
I thought £10- maybe £12 would have been reasonable but £18 I think is steep. And that is for all 4 areas of the ground its not like those are the expensive seats

Compare to Salford city who are in the actual League and it is £10 per game - I was going there instead but the game is sold out

Will watch in pub instead

That would be the same Salford city bankrolled by millionaires yes?

I'm not criticising your decision, I often think similar when I consider parting with £14 for a Tamworth game. But I do appreciate how much more urgently they need to generate money from tickets.

Pretty sure most Premier league clubs could survive comfortably just on TV money and merchandise sales. Hopefully the prices are reasonable in the pub you choose later!

Aren't they actually subsidised by a Singaporean billionaire?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: danno on August 13, 2019, 11:51:05 PM
I thought £10- maybe £12 would have been reasonable but £18 I think is steep. And that is for all 4 areas of the ground its not like those are the expensive seats

Compare to Salford city who are in the actual League and it is £10 per game - I was going there instead but the game is sold out

Will watch in pub instead

That would be the same Salford city bankrolled by millionaires yes?

I'm not criticising your decision, I often think similar when I consider parting with £14 for a Tamworth game. But I do appreciate how much more urgently they need to generate money from tickets.

Pretty sure most Premier league clubs could survive comfortably just on TV money and merchandise sales. Hopefully the prices are reasonable in the pub you choose later!

Aren't they actually subsidised by a Singaporean billionaire?

Peter Lim, so yes more zeroes than a class of 92 reunion.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: chrisw1 on August 15, 2019, 03:15:08 PM
Anyone know where you can join the ballot for away tickets at Palace?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Risso on August 15, 2019, 07:42:16 PM
Palace away tickets sold out.

I've got 4 season tickets this year, but when I logged on to try and get two tickets for Palace this evening, I was only allowed to buy one.  It was the same for Spurs.  That can't be right can it?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Risso on August 15, 2019, 07:42:50 PM
Anyone know where you can join the ballot for away tickets at Palace?

If it's like Spurs, they'll do it now that the tickets have officially sold out I guess.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ads on August 15, 2019, 07:48:20 PM
You have to link up your season tickets as friends, then assign the tickets on purchase.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Risso on August 15, 2019, 07:48:54 PM
You have to link up your season tickets as friends, then assign the tickets on purchase.

How does one do that?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: A Northern Soul on August 15, 2019, 08:13:42 PM
What happened to the clubís assurance that they would reintroduce resale of unused season tickets this season? For example, I canít make West Ham and would rather resell my 2 tickets for buttons than have them go wasted
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: charleeco7 on August 15, 2019, 08:19:17 PM
What happened to the clubís assurance that they would reintroduce resale of unused season tickets this season? For example, I canít make West Ham and would rather resell my 2 tickets for buttons than have them go wasted
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You can sell them. Login to your account online, click onto your name and scroll down to where it says ticket resale. At this stage you can only resell Bournemouth and Everton tickets though.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: A Northern Soul on August 15, 2019, 08:20:03 PM
What happened to the clubís assurance that they would reintroduce resale of unused season tickets this season? For example, I canít make West Ham and would rather resell my 2 tickets for buttons than have them go wasted
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You can sell them. Login to your account online, click onto your name and scroll down to where it says ticket resale. At this stage you can only resell Bournemouth and Everton tickets though.

Thank you 👍
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Lastfootstamper on August 15, 2019, 09:28:15 PM
You have to link up your season tickets as friends, then assign the tickets on purchase.

How does one do that?


Sign in to the tickets section, click on your name, scroll down to the My Friends & Family section, click on 'manage my relationships', and follow the instructions.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Risso on August 15, 2019, 09:40:09 PM
You have to link up your season tickets as friends, then assign the tickets on purchase.

How does one do that?


Sign in to the tickets section, click on your name, scroll down to the My Friends & Family section, click on 'manage my relationships', and follow the instructions.

Thanks, have created the relationships.  Does it automatically assign a ticket to one of the family members you've created?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: KRS on August 15, 2019, 09:55:21 PM
Nah if you try to buy without assigning to someone else then it flags up the error, and you just have to assign the ticket to someone else...if I recall correctly, their names are selectable from a dropdown box.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Chipsticks on August 15, 2019, 10:07:56 PM
Has anyone else not got their Claret membership pack?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: KRS on August 15, 2019, 10:10:40 PM
Still waiting for two.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Meanwood Villa on August 15, 2019, 10:18:38 PM
We get a pack?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Dazvillain on August 15, 2019, 10:23:21 PM
Has anyone else not got their Claret membership pack?
no, 9 weeks now
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: 260475 on August 15, 2019, 10:24:19 PM
Not yet, can't log in to rewards to see if I have enough / need more points to enter away ballots. Spurs was free - rest need points apparently. Not at home until back from Bournemouth game.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: purpletrousers on August 15, 2019, 10:47:17 PM
Palace away tickets sold out.

I've got 4 season tickets this year, but when I logged on to try and get two tickets for Palace this evening, I was only allowed to buy one.  It was the same for Spurs.  That can't be right can it?

They were marked sold out before 5pm. If you even got one you did well, likely if you had all the profiles linked, youíd still have only got one.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: SoccerHQ on August 15, 2019, 11:33:27 PM
Nah if you try to buy without assigning to someone else then it flags up the error, and you just have to assign the ticket to someone else...if I recall correctly, their names are selectable from a dropdown box.

I noticed the other day my fan ID had changed from what it's always been. Could've been due to moving house but that was over 5 years ago. Anyway had a play around with Everton and seems I could input my old ID and up came two tickets ready to be purchased. Is this loophole or would it could up as void when purchase was made?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: KRS on August 16, 2019, 01:40:49 AM
Do you mean you logged in using your old ID or tried to assign tickets to your old ID?

If it's the latter, and I don't know for sure so I'm only guessing, then if your old ID exists on the system as a live account then the transaction would probably still go through, and the ticket assigned to the booking history of that account. Whether or not you want booking history associated to your old account or if you want it assigned to someone else is another question.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Bad English on August 16, 2019, 02:11:21 AM
Has anyone else not got their Claret membership pack?
no, 9 weeks now
No. I got an email saying not to worry it will be along shortly, so long and thanks for the 35 quid!
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: SoccerHQ on August 16, 2019, 10:39:06 AM
Do you mean you logged in using your old ID or tried to assign tickets to your old ID?

If it's the latter, and I don't know for sure so I'm only guessing, then if your old ID exists on the system as a live account then the transaction would probably still go through, and the ticket assigned to the booking history of that account. Whether or not you want booking history associated to your old account or if you want it assigned to someone else is another question.

Yeah my old ID. For example I purchased two Norwich tickets in April using it. Will probably only use it for 2-3 games this season as my Dad only comes to that amount of games over a year now so not bothered about setting up an account for him.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: KRS on August 16, 2019, 11:02:41 AM
Well if you havenít bought claret membership on your old ID and youíre not bothered about clocking up a booking history for your old man, then I wouldnít worry too much about it as you wonít be able to buy tickets until general sale anyway.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: chrisw1 on August 30, 2019, 11:00:43 PM
Can someone let me know at what point you can resell your ticket for a particular game?  I can't make West Ham but it's not giving me a resale option (that I can find anyway)
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Dazvillain on August 30, 2019, 11:13:01 PM
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Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: purpletrousers on August 30, 2019, 11:13:44 PM
Can someone let me know at what point you can resell your ticket for a particular game?  I can't make West Ham but it's not giving me a resale option (that I can find anyway)

Where you buy tickets,
https://tickets.avfc.co.uk/en-GB/categories/home-tickets if you click more info there is a PDF that opens up for each game coming/on sale
For West Ham
https://tickets.avfc.co.uk/custom/documents/pdf/AVLWHU%20-%20Match%20Info.pdf

Which says
ďRefund Deadline: Saturday 14 August - 4:00pmĒ obviously a couple of weeks back.

Not sure if thatíll be the cut off, others have found the option before and can remind where the option was?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: chrisw1 on September 02, 2019, 09:19:45 PM
Thanks PT.  No the resell option was pretty much right up the the game day for the Everton game.

Can I just check if anybody season ticket holders are seeing the 'sell this game' option for the West Ham game yet?  Just want to check I'm looking in the right place.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: devilla on September 02, 2019, 10:08:47 PM
Slightly off topic but I find it incredible that the home ticket page still shows the package for the last four games of last season. I mean WTF?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 02, 2019, 10:11:22 PM
It's so as people can buy tickets and use Gary and Phil Neville's time machine to go and watch them.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ad@m on September 03, 2019, 01:29:50 PM
Thanks PT.  No the resell option was pretty much right up the the game day for the Everton game.

Can I just check if anybody season ticket holders are seeing the 'sell this game' option for the West Ham game yet?  Just want to check I'm looking in the right place.

Nope, it's not there.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: spangley1812 on September 03, 2019, 06:31:00 PM
This is on another thread ÖÖ..Its down to the club when/if you can resell

Even though I have not been in touch with the ticket office today, strangely (nudge nudge wink wink) they sent me an email stating the following

"The resale of season tickets for individual matches is only available once the match has sold out, and is entirely at the club's discretion."

I'm not really sure what prompted them to contact me directly today.

Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Dogtanian on September 03, 2019, 06:33:27 PM
There were 340 tickets available at lunch time today, so I expect it will sell out this week.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: dave.woodhall on September 03, 2019, 06:39:30 PM
This is on another thread ÖÖ..Its down to the club when/if you can resell

Even though I have not been in touch with the ticket office today, strangely (nudge nudge wink wink) they sent me an email stating the following

"The resale of season tickets for individual matches is only available once the match has sold out, and is entirely at the club's discretion."

I'm not really sure what prompted them to contact me directly today.



So what they said about it being a replacement for Seatwave was a fib?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 03, 2019, 06:42:21 PM
Not being able to sell your ticket unless it's a sellout is pretty poor, if that is the case.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on September 03, 2019, 06:47:44 PM
It is the case according to an unprompted email to me today from the club.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: purpletrousers on September 03, 2019, 07:53:59 PM
I was just working from this at the time of purchase




According to the FAQ 1/23rd of the ST value if they sell:
https://www.avfc.co.uk/Tickets/season-tickets/season-tickets-faqs

Quote
Will I be able to sell my seat via a seat resale programme for games I cannot attend?

Supporters have the benefit of being able to sell their seat using the clubs seat resale programme for matches they are unable to attend.

Supporters can list tickets in advance and may receive 1/23rd of the cost of their season ticket back as a BACS payment subject to seat being resold.

More information will be communicated before the new season.

hopefully gets sorted very soon.

That condition (of resale *only* once sold out) wasn't obviously available before sale, so is a bit questionable, especially the advice of 'in advance' as that contradicts the now announced position, eg a sell out on match day/just before KO day doesn't allow anything in advance.

https://tickets.avfc.co.uk/screenloader.aspx?type=include&page=custom/documents/html/tandc.html#resale is the relevant terms & Conditions that are now available (not sure if they were at actual point of sale) of course it's all at the clubs discretion and they can change terms and conditions.

Just for the record pedants, so 80% of 1/19 is  4/95 refund, so about  80p less than the 1/23 should I ever need to sell.

Would have been nice to be clearer in advance but I guess all fair enough, though it all feels like it's just much easier to pass on to someone we know/on here...

On a more positive i think my Dad's Over 65 ST is *relative* a bargain.
Luton where I've moved to eg offer what works out at a 71% discount to elders so my Dad would eg be paying nearly 1.5x what we pay for his ST at Villa which is only 47% of the cost of my adult one, I'd guess one of the better discounts.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: chrisw1 on September 03, 2019, 08:10:16 PM
To be honest I can understand why they don't want to resell already sold season tickets when they have their own tickets available.  I just think they should have been more up font about the process.

The Rewards points are a complete mess at the moment too (incorrect points allocated, not sending pin numbers etc), as is getting any response from the support team.  I'd obvioulsy prefer them to get things right on the pitch first, but their back of house really does leave a lot to be desired at the moment.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: devilla on September 03, 2019, 08:11:19 PM
Anybody still not got their Claret membership card yet? I paid for mine on 19th July and still had nothing. Pretty piss poor I think.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: amfy on September 03, 2019, 09:37:08 PM
I got my nephewís cubs membership today, but still waiting for Mr amfyís claret one.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on September 03, 2019, 09:55:35 PM
Changing the basis at which they operate the re-sale option is their prerogative I guess, but does not present the ticket office in a good light especially when they start using the word ďdiscretionĒ to people who paid their money upfront.
Then again supporters have discretion as to whether they buy drinks/food around the ground or a match day programme or a replica kit.
On the subject of the claret membership, my daughter is still awaiting hers bought end of June, early July. I sent an email about this on 9th August after previous contacts and their reply came through recently...

ďWe are very sorry for the delays in sending out membership cards. Unfortunately, we have had problems with printing the cards due to the unprecedented demand we have experienced. The matter is being resolved imminently and the membership packages are being compiled and dispatched in the coming daysĒ



Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Villa75 on September 03, 2019, 11:02:07 PM
So. In that case, the club have had an "unprecedented" amount of money off of people.

How bloody difficult is it to register and print out a few thousand cards?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Sdwbvf on September 04, 2019, 10:32:16 PM
I haven't retrieved my card from my wallet once in the last two years of membership. It will be useful if you want the virgin trains discount though. I can't imagine there would be enough points in buying stuff on the card to make it particularly worthwhile but I may be wrong on that.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ad@m on September 04, 2019, 10:43:44 PM
My lad's Cubs card came through this week...with his first name spelt in all lower case letters.

Great start Villa!
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: chrisw1 on September 08, 2019, 05:08:38 PM
Resale is now open for West Ham
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on September 08, 2019, 05:14:26 PM
Resale is now open for West Ham
Where can I find this?
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Villa Lew on September 08, 2019, 06:26:37 PM
Resale is now open for West Ham
Where can I find this?
Just go into the ticket office site and click on your name and you're into the site.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on September 08, 2019, 08:14:59 PM
Resale is now open for West Ham
Where can I find this?
Just go into the ticket office site and click on your name and you're into the site.
Cheers
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: Ads on September 16, 2019, 11:24:48 AM
Four consecutive home end sell outs. Very good going.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: pauliewalnuts on September 16, 2019, 07:08:13 PM
Attendances have been very impressive thus far.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: cdbullyweefan on September 17, 2019, 12:37:58 AM
I think Burnley will be the ninth successive Villa Park sell out (not discounting games where the away team haven't sold all their tickets).

I don't know if that has happened in my lifetime. Maybe even in anyone's lifetime.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: olaftab on September 19, 2019, 08:58:48 PM
Sell outs will be the norm for the season if we stay out of bottom 3.
Title: Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
Post by: cdbullyweefan on September 19, 2019, 08:59:42 PM
They'll be the norm if we are in the bottom three. Only way they will stop is if we are fit adrift with virtually no chance of survival.