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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Toronto Villa on May 28, 2019, 02:27:16 PM
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So who’s coming out to Minnesota United (managed by Villa legend Adrian Heath) to watch our heroes? My ticket is secured along with a number of the Chicago Villains. There are tickets still available for the game on July 17th. It will be a party.
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I think I can stretch to the Tamworth game.
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I should be flying over to New York and surrounding areas in July so very tempted. Is Minnesota our only game or will there be more fixtures lined up?
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Not heard anything at the moment. It’s possible they could add to this and being a PL club again makes us all the more attractive now, especially with an American co-owner. Interesting to see how our pre-season now maps out as the club try to capitalize on this commercially.
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https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2019/06/07/pre-season-fixtures-announced
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Hurrah, might be able to make the game at Charlton, will wait for the league fixtures before deciding.
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Fuck me, that's an uninspiring list!
Were these agreed whilst we were still a second rate side?
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Shrewsbury was a pleasant day out last time we played there although the ground is a bit of a trek from the town centre.
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Fuck me, that's an uninspiring list!
Were these agreed whilst we were still a second rate side?
What's the problem? They're only friendlies.
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There's not a lot on the new grounds front and the only one we're not regulars at is being played on main holiday Saturday. Yippee.
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Isn't Walsall in Europe?
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Isn't Walsall in Europe?
Division 4...
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Boring as fuck friendlies. Won't be attending any. All I want is one new ground on a Saturday, is that too much to ask?
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Yep a bit uninspiring, I've not been to the annual Walsall friendly since about 2005 as I just got fed up with it, I may go to Shrewsbury again though (we played there 2 years ago). I was hoping to play at a midland side we've never played like Cheltenham or even Forest Green, I've actually never been to Port Vale either.
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We could have an easy to get to European game yet. Dream of Dublin, Amsterdam or Hamburg for example.
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Boring as fuck friendlies. Won't be attending any. All I want is one new ground on a Saturday, is that too much to ask?
Fly out to Minnesota and we can have a beer out there on July 17th. I think the club is looking at a few other options including a game vs a team in Europe. But I imagine some of these games were already lined up so I’m glad we didn’t just ditch them for something more glamorous just because we went up.
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I worry that we'll never get our hands on the Peace Cup again in my lifetime.
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4th August still free, imagine we'll set up a home friendly against decent european team as was the trend a few years ago.
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4th August still free, imagine we'll set up a home friendly against decent european team as was the trend a few years ago.
The club are also exploring the possibility of a fixture in Europe on Saturday 3rd August.
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Barca or Real Madrid Madrid please :)
More likely Celta Vigo or perhaps Hibs
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Ah righty. Maybe we'll get ourselves in a Peace cup style tournament that weekend to fine tune things.
Have to say I'd love Dortmund away. Another thing to slate lambert for in his time here for not pulling a few strings and arranging it.
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4th August still free, imagine we'll set up a home friendly against decent european team as was the trend a few years ago.
Wolves?
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Think they're hosting a World XI that day, in front of 200,000 at The 'Neux Camp. Maybe they'd let us play against their reserves if we ask really nicely?
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I worry that we'll never get our hands on the Peace Cup again in my lifetime.
If you don't ever defend it, you can't lose it. By the same token we are also still Charity Shield and European Super Cup holders, too.
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4th August still free, imagine we'll set up a home friendly against decent european team as was the trend a few years ago.
Wolves?
The only reason us English clubs can play teams from the Continent at all is because of Wolves, so show some bloody respect yeah?
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Toulouse, Montpellier, Girona or Barcelona please. Bordeaux or Lyon if you must.
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Start checking hotels in Rotterdam ;)
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Leipzig away 3rd August, confirmed.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1138748107678724097?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
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https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2019/06/07/pre-season-fixtures-announced
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Leipzig away 3rd August, confirmed.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1138748107678724097?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Chemistry Leipzig?
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Leipzig away 3rd August, confirmed.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1138748107678724097?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Chemistry Leipzig?
Sorry, I recalled a fact that there was a team in Leipzig with Chemistry in the name. I found that they are BSG Chemie Leipzig which I realise is less interesting... <sad face>
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Leipzig away 3rd August, confirmed.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1138748107678724097?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Chemistry Leipzig?
Sorry, I recalled a fact that there was a team in Leipzig with Chemistry in the name. I found that they are BSG Chemie Leipzig which I realise is less interesting... <sad face>
Haha. No problem, mate. You had me searching on Google for your reference to chemistry. I just found something connected to the university chemistry department...
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Now, that's more like it! 👌
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RB Leipzig are very controversial (and hated by fans of many of the more traditional teams). In 2009 Red Bull bought into a struggling lower-league Leipzig team with the aim of taking them into the top flight. Under Bundesliga rules companies aren't allowed to be owners of football teams unless, like Wolfsburg (VW) and Leverkusen (Bayer), they genuinely started off as works teams. Red Bull managed to get round this while the club was still in the lower leagues but they're still not allowed to call themselves Red Bull. So it shouldn't say "Red Bull Leipzig" on the Villa website. So that Villa are politically (and legally) correct, I've suggested that they change it to RB Leipzig. This is the name the club use. Of course, everyone knows that RB is really Red Bull, but officially it's a ridiculous made-up name, RasenBallsport Leipzig, which means "grass ball sport". The name is regarded with something between contempt and derision by the rest of the Bundesliga, but you can't ignore their success on the field. After promotion after promotion they joined the top flight in 2016 and finished 3rd last season, so we'll be playing a team that's qualified for the CL.
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How have they managed to get round it? Do they not formally own the club but still pump money in?
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Complicated! Red Bull have established a separate company, which owns almost all the shares and runs the 1st team, reserves and youth sides, but in apparent compliance with Bundesliga rules, which state that no individual or corporation can own more than 49% of a club, the overall club is run by an overarching organisation which is not controlled by Red Bull.
This may appear something of a fudge. Traditionally German clubs give the members a big say in all decisions. This has been one of the strengths of German football, as opposed to England. In 2017 Bayern Munich had 290,000 voting members, Dortmund 154,000. RB Leipzig had 920 members, 17 of whom had voting rights.
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Leipzig away 3rd August, confirmed.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1138748107678724097?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Chemistry Leipzig?
Sorry, I recalled a fact that there was a team in Leipzig with Chemistry in the name. I found that they are BSG Chemie Leipzig which I realise is less interesting... <sad face>
Haha. No problem, mate. You had me searching on Google for your reference to chemistry. I just found something connected to the university chemistry department...
Well Chemie does translate to chemistry. Not sure of any other teams named after school subjects.
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Complicated! Red Bull have established a separate company, which owns almost all the shares and runs the 1st team, reserves and youth sides, but in apparent compliance with Bundesliga rules, which state that no individual or corporation can own more than 49% of a club, the overall club is run by an overarching organisation which is not controlled by Red Bull.
This may appear something of a fudge. Traditionally German clubs give the members a big say in all decisions. This has been one of the strengths of German football, as opposed to England. In 2017 Bayern Munich had 290,000 voting members, Dortmund 154,000. RB Leipzig had 920 members, 17 of whom had voting rights.
It certainly sounds a fudge but as you say, you can't argue with the results on the pitch. Surely the neutral in Germany would prefer RB to Bayern even with this stretching of the rules?
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That's a difficult one! Personally I think it's good that Saxony, in the old East Germany, finally has a top-flight team, but RB are generally disliked because their set-up contradicts the basic principles of the Bundesliga. I fear that some of the German Villans will boycott our game in Leipzig because they won't pay money to Red Bull. Bayern, on the other hand, are disliked because they keep on winning things. Their Munich stadium, the Allianz Arena, is nicknamed the Arroganz Arena.
As I've said in H&V articles in the past, Villa picked up a lot of German supporters in 1982 when we beat the hugely unpopular West German champions, Bayern Munich, to win the European Cup.
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I am glad we’ve got a friendly in Leipzig. With work, I spend a lot of time out there with work and it’s a bit of a hidden secret of Germany.
RB Leipzig remains controversial within Germany, but I wouldn’t let it put you off. The city is full of parks, home breweries and cheapish beer.
The downside is that it’s tricky to get to. As my company have found out - we can only get out on the freighter jumpseat directly. There’s a flight every other day from Stansted with Ryanair.
Hotel wise, there’s plenty of options. We normally stay in either the Penta or the Marriott though. The Westin is used by our sister companies though.
If anyone wants any info into the city, please let me know.
Chris
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That's a difficult one! Personally I think it's good that Saxony, in the old East Germany, finally has a top-flight team, but RB are generally disliked because their set-up contradicts the basic principles of the Bundesliga. I fear that some of the German Villans will boycott our game in Leipzig because they won't pay money to Red Bull. Bayern, on the other hand, are disliked because they keep on winning things. Their Munich stadium, the Allianz Arena, is nicknamed the Arroganz Arena.
As I've said in H&V articles in the past, Villa picked up a lot of German supporters in 1982 when we beat the hugely unpopular West German champions, Bayern Munich, to win the European Cup.
I'd love, one day, for opposition fans to hate us because we win things on an 'all to regular' basis. What a 'problem' to have.
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I'd love, one day, for opposition fans to hate us because we win things on an 'all to regular' basis. What a 'problem' to have.
In about 1910 I imagine that all the others did hate us!
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It tricky to get to but doable from BHX, and we’ve managed to get it booked relatively easily via Zurich. One the better things about Brum these days is the ability to hop around fairly quickly via the European hubs . I so wish we could qualify for the European competitions again. Little steps though first.
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Bollocks. I haven't been to Leipzig before and it would be nice to catch up with the German Villains on their own patch again. Unfortunately I am on holiday.
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Best other options from BHX:
Hannover, Berlin. Both have good connections on train - driving times are around 1:45 from both airports to Leipzig.
Nuremberg is pretty close too. Prague is equal distance to Berlin but takes a lot longer.
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I am glad we’ve got a friendly in Leipzig. With work, I spend a lot of time out there with work and it’s a bit of a hidden secret of Germany.
RB Leipzig remains controversial within Germany, but I wouldn’t let it put you off. The city is full of parks, home breweries and cheapish beer.
The downside is that it’s tricky to get to. As my company have found out - we can only get out on the freighter jumpseat directly. There’s a flight every other day from Stansted with Ryanair.
Hotel wise, there’s plenty of options. We normally stay in either the Penta or the Marriott though. The Westin is used by our sister companies though.
If anyone wants any info into the city, please let me know.
Chris
I don't know if I've misunderstood your post Chris, but there are no direct flights with Ryanair to Leipzig from Stansted.
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If you dont mind fucking around then Brum to Dublin, Dublin to Frankfurt, Frankfurt to Leipzig on the Friday is a cheap route on the plane.
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So still no season tickets on sale, and now a friendly against a European team in a city with no direct flights. Brilliant.
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I am glad we’ve got a friendly in Leipzig. With work, I spend a lot of time out there with work and it’s a bit of a hidden secret of Germany.
RB Leipzig remains controversial within Germany, but I wouldn’t let it put you off. The city is full of parks, home breweries and cheapish beer.
The downside is that it’s tricky to get to. As my company have found out - we can only get out on the freighter jumpseat directly. There’s a flight every other day from Stansted with Ryanair.
Hotel wise, there’s plenty of options. We normally stay in either the Penta or the Marriott though. The Westin is used by our sister companies though.
If anyone wants any info into the city, please let me know.
Chris
I don't know if I've misunderstood your post Chris, but there are no direct flights with Ryanair to Leipzig from Stansted.
I think (though I don't know) that there are cargo flights. DHL are based in Leipzig.
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Ah, right. So we can post ourselves there!
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Leipzig is the nearest city to Colditz Castle. I can feel a "two birds with one stone" trip coming on.
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All I can say is what is wrong with Montpellier or Girona? Tsk!
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There are indeed... and I work for DHL nowadays. So with any luck, I’ll be out there for the day. A perk of being a Freight pilot now...
Indeed there were direct Ryanair flights from Stansted. We have had to use them sometimes when the jump seats are full. However I’ve just checked and they appear to not be bookable now.
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Leipzig is the nearest city to Colditz Castle. I can feel a "two birds with one stone" trip coming on.
Well worth it. My company do guided tours of the castle and I'll be there with a group next Sunday. But public transport from Leipzig to Colditz isn't straightforward. There's no station at Colditz. Hiring a car might be easier.
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Are there any packages for the US trip?
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Leipzig is the nearest city to Colditz Castle. I can feel a "two birds with one stone" trip coming on.
Well worth it. My company do guided tours of the castle and I'll be there with a group next Sunday. But public transport from Leipzig to Colditz isn't straightforward. There's no station at Colditz. Hiring a car might be easier.
It's been on my bucket list for a while. Might PM you if it looks like coming off !
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There are indeed... and I work for DHL nowadays. So with any luck, I’ll be out there for the day. A perk of being a Freight pilot now...
Indeed there were direct Ryanair flights from Stansted. We have had to use them sometimes when the jump seats are full. However I’ve just checked and they appear to not be bookable now.
The cheapest travel options from Birmingham seem to be to fly with Lufthansa via Frankfurt or Munich (out on Friday, back on Sunday). There are a few deals under £200 return if you don't mind arriving at Leipzig airport until after 11.00pm on the Friday. (The airport's only 15 minutes from the centre by local train). Connection times at Frankfurt or Munich can be pretty long, however.
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around 12 hours by train from New St to Leipzig, leave just after 8 am , arrive 9pm.
via Brussels and Frankfurt
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That's a difficult one! Personally I think it's good that Saxony, in the old East Germany, finally has a top-flight team, but RB are generally disliked because their set-up contradicts the basic principles of the Bundesliga. I fear that some of the German Villans will boycott our game in Leipzig because they won't pay money to Red Bull. Bayern, on the other hand, are disliked because they keep on winning things. Their Munich stadium, the Allianz Arena, is nicknamed the Arroganz Arena.
As I've said in H&V articles in the past, Villa picked up a lot of German supporters in 1982 when we beat the hugely unpopular West German champions, Bayern Munich, to win the European Cup.
frank of course RB could stand for Racist Bastards reflecting the town itself with it's LEGIDA movement? I like Germany very much but won't be travelling to this event.
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That's a difficult one! Personally I think it's good that Saxony, in the old East Germany, finally has a top-flight team, but RB are generally disliked because their set-up contradicts the basic principles of the Bundesliga. I fear that some of the German Villans will boycott our game in Leipzig because they won't pay money to Red Bull. Bayern, on the other hand, are disliked because they keep on winning things. Their Munich stadium, the Allianz Arena, is nicknamed the Arroganz Arena.
As I've said in H&V articles in the past, Villa picked up a lot of German supporters in 1982 when we beat the hugely unpopular West German champions, Bayern Munich, to win the European Cup.
frank of course RB could stand for Racist Bastards reflecting the town itself with it's LEGIDA movement? I like Germany very much but won't be travelling to this event.
Pegida, the right-wing, anti-immigrant movement, which marches in Dresden every Monday, shames Dresden.
Legida, the Leipzig offshoot, seems to have fizzled out, although I agree that it was a worrying development when it started four years ago. What does reflect Leipzig is the fact that, more than any other city, it played a central role in the fall of Communism when tens of thousands regularly took to the streets to demand reform. Since then it's been known as "the City of Heroes", a title it wears with pride. I look forward to going back to Leipzig when Villa play.
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All I can say is what is wrong with Montpellier or Girona? Tsk!
Montpellier would have been fantastic. Spent a few months in Nimes during my younger years trying to learn French, and really liked Montpellier. Loads of students, nice architecture, good nightlife, lovely women.
Sadly, I never actually got to see Montpellier play (or learnt much French for that matter) whilst I was there. My roommate was a massive Istres fan, and would drag me along to watch their woeful brand of football. The only player of note I can remember is Bakayoko.
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Chemcie Leipzig is the 3rd team in Leipzig (by support), behind RB Leipzig and Lokomotiv Leipzig.
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So still no season tickets on sale, and now a friendly against a European team in a city with no direct flights. Brilliant.
to be fair the club probably aren’t expecting that people would
Travel in numbers to Germany for a pre-season friendly.
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Thanks to Frank for his comments above on the background to RB.
Astonishingly, RB Leipzig have made themselves even more unpopular in the last couple of weeks by announcing a cooperative working relationship with Paderborn (just promoted to the Bundesliga) which to all intents and purposes envisages Paderborn acting as Red Bull's farm team. Paderborn supporters are already refusing to renew season tickets in disgust at this, while the DFB (German Football Association) studiously look the other way, apparently deaf so far to legitimate accusations that this could lead to huge conflicts of interest. They obviously took the lead from UEFA, who cheerfully allowed both the main Red Bull franchises - Leipzig and Salzburg - to share a group in last season's Europa League.
https://www.dw.com/en/bundesliga-paderborn-fans-threaten-boycott-over-rb-leipzig-cooperation/a-49073501
I know when my German team MSV Duisburg played there a few years ago all but one of our supporters groups chose not to travel.
Red Bull are Germany's most hated club by some distance and, although you can't necessarily expect Villa to be fully au fait with the ins and outs of German football, I am a little disappointed that we're indulging them by agreeing to a friendly there.
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there was good podcast on the bbc world service on rb leipzig and why they're so hated in germany, a couple of years ago here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04r08vf
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there was good podcast on the bbc world service on rb leipzig and why they're so hated in germany, a couple of years ago here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04r08vf
Good podcast that, ta.
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Was having a look at how to get to Leipzig, and there doesnt seem to be any economical way of doing it (preferably out Friday, back Sunday). Anybody else thinking of going and found a relatively affordable way of getting there?
I was looking at going to Berlin and train down but even then the flights aren't the best - happy to go from BHX or EMA.
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Was having a look at how to get to Leipzig, and there doesnt seem to be any economical way of doing it (preferably out Friday, back Sunday). Anybody else thinking of going and found a relatively affordable way of getting there?
I was looking at going to Berlin and train down but even then the flights aren't the best - happy to go from BHX or EMA.
It's probably going to be quite expensive, whichever way you travel. On page 4 of this thread I've suggested how you might fly from Birmingham to Leipzig with one change.
East Midlands doesn't look very convenient as there are no flights back on a Sunday
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Leipzig is the nearest city to Colditz Castle. I can feel a "two birds with one stone" trip coming on.
Aaaahhh.
I was interested in going to this friendly (on account of finding myself with shed loads of free time this summer). The stories of expensive flights made me think again, but then I was thinking it'd be a nice trip to drive and being able to see Colditz too would be brilliant.
Although I've just remembered it is in (the old) East Germany, and therefore a very, very fucking long drive.
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As a teenage Early Music student (don't ask) I went to Leipzig to participate in the International Bach Festival (don't ask). I got the ferry as a foot passenger from Harwich to Hook of Holland then a direct train to Leipzig itself, quite a pleasant journey as I recall, only six hrs or so. May be worth considering to those contemplating the journey.
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I’ve been a few times. Manchester do direct flights or at least they did. A few times I’ve done BHX to Munich - Munich - Leipzig. Or, Stanstead to Dresden train to Leipzig about an hour..
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Leipzig is the nearest city to Colditz Castle. I can feel a "two birds with one stone" trip coming on.
Aaaahhh.
I was interested in going to this friendly (on account of finding myself with shed loads of free time this summer). The stories of expensive flights made me think again, but then I was thinking it'd be a nice trip to drive and being able to see Colditz too would be brilliant.
Although I've just remembered it is in (the old) East Germany, and therefore a very, very fucking long drive.
I went over to Leipzig during the World Cup, flew to Prague, had a night there, then hired a minibus and drove to Leipzig via Colditz. I think it was about a 5 hour trip each way.
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Leipzig is the nearest city to Colditz Castle. I can feel a "two birds with one stone" trip coming on.
Aaaahhh.
I was interested in going to this friendly (on account of finding myself with shed loads of free time this summer). The stories of expensive flights made me think again, but then I was thinking it'd be a nice trip to drive and being able to see Colditz too would be brilliant.
Although I've just remembered it is in (the old) East Germany, and therefore a very, very fucking long drive.
I went over to Leipzig during the World Cup, flew to Prague, had a night there, then hired a minibus and drove to Leipzig via Colditz. I think it was about a 5 hour trip each way.
I'm on my way to Colditz with a tour at this very moment. It's about 30 miles from Leipzig
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All I can say is what is wrong with Montpellier or Girona? Tsk!
Montpellier... lovely women.
tl;dr
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For those with time and money, the train to Leipzig might be an option.
Check out https://www.seat61.com/Germany.htm#London%20to%20Leipzig%20&%20Dresden%20by%20train
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For those with time and money, the train to Leipzig might be an option.
Check out https://www.seat61.com/Germany.htm#London%20to%20Leipzig%20&%20Dresden%20by%20train
Would definitely be my choice if I was free to go, option of a mini city break in different cities each way, less pollution, the Man in Seat 61 is great.
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Must be me, but I can't see any details for Leipzig tickets - is it a simple pay on the gate affair?
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Tickets for our pre-season games at Shrewsbury Town and Walsall will go on sale from Monday.
Ticket info for our other two friendly games at Charlton Athletic and RB Leipzig will be released in due course.
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Never been a pre season abroad when you couldn’t pay in or got in to free
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The ground seems to be roughly the same size as Villa Park so I doubt it'll sell out.
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Shrewsbury and Walsall sold out inside 30 minutes.
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Shrewsbury and Walsall sold out inside 30 minutes.
Yep my pals who went to virtually every away game for the last three seasons before we got trendy again, including the overseas friendlies, have missed out because there was no window for people with 25, yes 25 away game history from last season.
That’s what the newbies wanted....
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Shrewsbury and Walsall sold out inside 30 minutes.
Yep my pals who went to virtually every away game for the last three seasons before we got trendy again, including the overseas friendlies, have missed out because there was no window for people with 25, yes 25 away game history from last season.
That’s what the newbies wanted....
Surely Walsall will give us the stand along the side?
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Brum to Belfast then to Berlin then Leipzig or Brum/Prague/Leipzig could be options. I haven't looked myself but some suggestions of going in and out of Poland might be a good shot on cheap flights as well.
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Charlton should be a good day out. Looking forward to it
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Shrewsbury and Walsall sold out inside 30 minutes.
Yep my pals who went to virtually every away game for the last three seasons before we got trendy again, including the overseas friendlies, have missed out because there was no window for people with 25, yes 25 away game history from last season.
That’s what the newbies wanted....
To be honest, i think away booking histories should revert to zero at the start of any new season. If they don't how is anybody else ever going to get a chance at a ticket?
Them going on sale to season ticket holders first is one thing, and quite right. But i'm all for a first come first served on away tickets, first to season ticket holders and then to members etc if there are any left.
Not everyone can go to multiple ones a season clearly. But for them to not be able to even go to one because it becomes a closed shop can't be right IMHO. One of the main benefits of getting a season ticket was access to away tickets after all. Not a guarantee you'd get one but a guarantee you'd be in with a first chance as a season ticket holder.
Nobody deserves a god given right to get one for every match. They need spreading about if the demand is there.
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Shrewsbury and Walsall sold out inside 30 minutes.
Yep my pals who went to virtually every away game for the last three seasons before we got trendy again, including the overseas friendlies, have missed out because there was no window for people with 25, yes 25 away game history from last season.
That’s what the newbies wanted....
To be honest, i think away booking histories should revert to zero at the start of any new season. If they don't how is anybody else ever going to get a chance at a ticket?
Them going on sale to season ticket holders first is one thing, and quite right. But i'm all for a first come first served on away tickets, first to season ticket holders and then to members etc if there are any left.
Not everyone can go to multiple ones a season clearly. But for them to not be able to even go to one because it becomes a closed shop can't be right IMHO. Once of the main benefits of a season ticket was access to away tickets after all.
Nobody deserves a god given right to get one for every match. They need spreading about if the demand is there.
I agree.
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I do understand about restarting the clock but I would be pretty pissed off with someone getting Away tickets ahead of me whose interest in following villa regularly has previously been minimal- just an honest viewpoint
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I do understand about restarting the clock but I would be pretty pissed off with someone getting Away tickets ahead of me whose interest in following villa regularly has previously been minimal- just an honest viewpoint
I can see that. But surely a booking history should benefit people in terms of only getting tickets in 'that' season not be a rolling benefit.
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I disagree. People who followed us away regularly last season to the likes of Brentford and Rotherham on a Tuesday night deserve something for their efforts.
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Charlton should be a good day out. Looking forward to it
Me too Chico.
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Charlton should be a good day out. Looking forward to it
Me too Chico.
Me three.
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To be fair Rotherham ended up one of the best aways last season and loved my trips to griffin park Ha ha. Seriously though you can’t just pigeonhole someone who has been multiple aways last season and allow a new away follower the same opportunity immediately
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I disagree. People who followed us away regularly last season to the likes of Brentford and Rotherham on a Tuesday night deserve something for their efforts.
Fair play, but for me their reward was getting tickets last season for other matches.
I went to Rotherham and Wigan last season, couple of the few i could make it to and actually get tickets to. That was reward enough for me.
Rotherham was fantastic. Wigan the exact opposite.
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Charlton should be a good day out. Looking forward to it
Me too Chico.
Me three.
Nice session in Greenwich, short hop up to Charlton.
Better than Fulham...
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Fish and Chips and a pint of Youngs in The Cutty Sark is a must.
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Pie & Mash in Goddard's
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Where's that Chico ? I'm out in Greenwich next week.
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Where's that Chico ? I'm out in Greenwich next week.
About a hundred yards from the Cutty Sark ( the ship not the pub - which is a bit of a trek away), walking towards Greenwich Park
https://www.goddardsatgreenwich.co.uk/about-us/
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Nice one Chico, I must been past it loads of times, ill check it out.
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The Cutty Sark is a great pub.
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Yeah, not overly expensive for London too. Great place to sit outside on a sunny day.
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Charlton should be a good day out. Looking forward to it
Me too Chico.
Me three.
Got my ticket. Don't seem to be selling anywhere near as quick as Shrewsbury.
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Charlton should be a good day out. Looking forward to it
Me too Chico.
Me three.
Got my ticket. Don't seem to be selling anywhere near as quick as Shrewsbury.
We got ours today - looking for another though
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Maybe people are saving their money for Leipzeig? - I am hoping that the Charlton game goes to general sale, even though I could get a ticket now being a season ticket holder, I will have to wait as I need to get another ticket for my wife.
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Anyone from here traveling to Minnesota?
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Shrewsbury and Walsall sold out inside 30 minutes.
More tickets available today for Walsall.
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Charlton is a mega ball ache with thr Black Wall Tunnel the final cherry on a shit journey cake.
Why you'd volunteer to go to a friendly there I have no idea.
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Charlton is a mega ball ache with thr Black Wall Tunnel the final cherry on a shit journey cake.
Why you'd volunteer to go to a friendly there I have no idea.
Let the train take the.....12 quid single tickets still floating around from Crewe.
One of the easiest London grounds to get to by public transport anyway.
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Charlton is a mega ball ache with thr Black Wall Tunnel the final cherry on a shit journey cake.
Why you'd volunteer to go to a friendly there I have no idea.
Public transport - piece of piss.
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Apart from the time of the 2 hr platform wait and then trains only direct toLondon bridge at about midnight on a Wednesday night!
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Anyone from here traveling to Minnesota?
SligoTom will probably be there
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Apart from the time of the 2 hr platform wait and then trains only direct toLondon bridge at about midnight on a Wednesday night!
Should've left the ground earlier Rob. I missed that episode and was sitting in a Greenwich bar, knocking back a few post-match pints of Nelson Mandela
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What the Hell is that monstrosity of a kit we are playing in?
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What the Hell is that monstrosity of a kit we are playing in?
Kiddy in their new Luke kit too
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What the Hell is that monstrosity of a kit we are playing in?
Not a blue sleeve in sight, either!
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What the Hell is that monstrosity of a kit we are playing in?
Agree, dare I say absolutely minging that horrible grey kit! I sincerely hope this is just a trial? Pray to God it's not the away kit??
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The away kit is light blue.
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The away kit is light blue.
That's a relief! When is the proper kit launch?
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The away kit is light blue.
That's a relief! When is the proper kit launch?
Next week to coincide with the game in Minnesota
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Ffs, it's not even August yet. Feel like they are rushing things.
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What was that kit then?
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Looks like a training kit.
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Apologies if this has been asked and/or answered already, but does anyone know if the pre-season games will be streamed on YouTube like last season's?
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Apologies if this has been asked and/or answered already, but does anyone know if the pre-season games will be streamed on YouTube like last season's?
Yes - but only the first team UK games, not the U23's games
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Apologies if this has been asked and/or answered already, but does anyone know if the pre-season games will be streamed on YouTube like last season's?
Yes - but only the first team UK games, not the U23's games
Thanks. Does that mean the Minnesota game isn't on?
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Apologies if this has been asked and/or answered already, but does anyone know if the pre-season games will be streamed on YouTube like last season's?
Yes - but only the first team UK games, not the U23's games
Thanks. Does that mean the Minnesota game isn't on?
The games against Minnesota and Liepzig will not be shown on YouTube.
I'm pretty sure their are highlights being shown on YouTube but not sure how soon after the game has ended
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In the past when we've played in the US most, if not all, the games were shown on the host club's website/youtube iirc.
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Is there a list of which players are in Minnesota ?
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Sorry if it's been mentioned...Adrian Heath is the Minnesota manager
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Here's a live stream for the game tomorrow:
https://www.mnufc.com/post/2019/07/16/live-stream-mnufc-vs-aston-villa-international-friendly
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Here's a live stream for the game tomorrow:
https://www.mnufc.com/post/2019/07/16/live-stream-mnufc-vs-aston-villa-international-friendly
Nice one. Thank you very much.
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1am kick-off on Thursday morning, innit?
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Scum-initialled wankers.
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Does anyone have the squad list that have gone to America? Curious how many of the fringe players are involved (Hogie, Rush, Keinan, Angela and Birk).
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Unlikely to be a full strength Minnesota team because they played Sunday and will play again next Sunday in MLS
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Just bought two tickets in the shrewsbury main stand for Sunday. Give us a wave if you're going.
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Does anyone have the squad list that have gone to America? Curious how many of the fringe players are involved (Hogie, Rush, Keinan, Angela and Birk).
They're all their from the training vids and pictures.
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what time in the uk does this match start I believe it’s being steamed on you tube
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what time in the uk does this match start I believe it’s being steamed on you tube
1am streamed on the Minnesota site
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what time in the uk does this match start I believe it’s being steamed on you tube
1am streamed on the Minnesota site
Cheers
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Tamworth 1-4 Villa XI
Nine minutes in, a low ball into the box from the left was met by Sea and it deceived Singh and snuck inside the far post to give the visitors the lead. (0-1, 9 mins)
A Beswick left sided corner on 12 was powerfully met the head of Magunda but his goalbound effort was headed away and Waite’s follow up from the right of the box was deflected to safety.
A low strike from Clement tested Searle on 18 and a strong runn down the right by Waite forced a corner on the right on 20 which Magunda got to but couldn’t direct on target.
Clifton hit a low shot on 25 which also tested Searle, but it would have taken a lot to beat him with the underpowered shot from the edge of the box.
Magunda was on hand again on 26 meeting a freekick with a downward header, but it was wide of the near post.
After a prolonger period of workman like but ultimately fruitless football from both sides Obeng was upended on the right wing and Clfton launched the freekick long into the box and Waite made a darting run from a Hoenes pass but it went out of play as the cross came in.
But it was Villa who doubled their lead on 42 when Suliman met a right sided corner with a powerful header and it went through the grip of Singh at the far post and into the back of the net (0-2, 42 mins)
Obeng ran onto a Clement through ball on 45 and was bundled over allowing Waite to strike the penalty.
However, his low shot to the right was blocked and he miskicked the rebound and the keeper tipped it over the bar to leave the scoreline 2-0 in the favour of the visitors at the break.
Tamworth restarted the game with both sides having made two changes during the break but the visitors took the initiative first on 47 when sub Tait slotted home from 8 yards in the centre of the box to make it 3-0 to the Villains.
On 51 Hoenes hit a powerful shot which Searle parried and when he tried to recover the rebound he was tripped for second Lambs penalty, and for a second time the Villa keeper denied Tamworth a goal, this time from the boot of Beswick.
Searle denied Hoenes strike on 55 with a save to the keeper’s right, and Waite was replaced by Creaney a minute later.
A Beswick dead ball from the right on 59 was too long for the substitute striker while at the other end Singh denied Sea his second of the evening with a close range block.
Obeng made way for Williams on 62 while Aston Villa made six further changes, including the keeper and one of the subs, Archer, slotted home on 66 to make it 0-4.
Creaney pulled one back for The Lambs on 79 with a powerful back post header from a Beswick corner (1-4).
Williams then made a strong run down the left channel and forced Sinisalo to block his effort on the left of the area.
A dinked ball over a high Villa back line allowed Creaney to run through but he was thwarted by the keeper and Rowe-Turner headed it just wide of the mark on 83.
Another move out of midfield on 88 through Duncan to Williams who forced the keeper to make another save at his near post for a corner on the left and from the flagkick Creaney flahsed his header wide of the mark. (1-4)
In the final passage of play of the game, Beswick sent a left sided freekick into the box and Magunda finished it from close range but the offside flag denied him.
Tamworth Team:
Singh, Francis, Ambris (Duncan HT), Beswick, Magunda, Rowe-Turner, Obeng (Williams 62), Clifton, Waite (Creaney 56), Clement (Sibanda HT), Hoenes (James 72)
Subs: Beejer
Aston Villa Team:
Searle (Sinisalo 62), Walker (Birch 62), Rowe (Tait HT), Suliman, Bridge (Burton 62), Doyle-Hayes, Odutayo (Archer 62), Guy (Sohna 62), Sea (Farr 62), Vassilev (Philogene-Bidace 57), Hooper (Revan HT)
Subs: Kesler
Attendance: 989
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Anyone staying up / setting alarms to watch the stream later?
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https://www.mnufc.com/post/2019/07/16/live-stream-mnufc-vs-aston-villa-international-friendly
An international friendly in the midst of the busiest stretch of the season should allow the Loons plenty of room to turn over the roster and give some new players a run out on the pitch as Minnesota United welcomes newly promoted Premier League side Aston Villa to Allianz Field. Aston Villa was founded in 1874 and has spent 105 seasons in the top tier of English football, second only to Everton with 114, and were the first club to wear claret and blue as their colors. Minnesota United head coach played for the Lions in 1989-90, and with Allianz Field opening just this year, will be the first Premier League side to play in the stadium.
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Anyone staying up / setting alarms to watch the stream later?
Well, I'm currently seriously considering it. But I'm also in the pub, after work. I dare say as my optimism grows, my ability to see the task through will lessen accordingly.
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Purslow doing a Q&A at the Brits Pub in Minnesota
(https://i.ibb.co/Mc13T68/6-B1-A0-D83-7781-4165-B181-95-C17-F2-C8-DC8.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Mc13T68)
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Purslow doing a Q&A at the Brits Pub in Minnesota
(https://i.ibb.co/Mc13T68/6-B1-A0-D83-7781-4165-B181-95-C17-F2-C8-DC8.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Mc13T68)
Top bloke
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Anyone staying up / setting alarms to watch the stream later?
Fridge stocked up with cold beer and I’ll be still wide awake.
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https://twitter.com/MNUFC/status/1151566250822291456
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What time does it kick off, UK time?
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1am.
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1am.
Thanks mate.
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The stream has been blocked in UK...( edit ). It was blocked earlier and now it's showing available.
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Ah pre-season. Cue lots of posts saying either "We looked brilliant" or "pre-season results are meaningless".
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There's an international friendly link here (https://7500toholte.sbnation.com/2019/7/17/20698283/watch-minnesota-united-vs-aston-villa-live-stream).
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There's an international friendly link here (https://7500toholte.sbnation.com/2019/7/17/20698283/watch-minnesota-united-vs-aston-villa-live-stream).
Tidy
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https://twitter.com/Jamorushton/status/1151599294564196352
(https://i.ibb.co/r4bLKst/image.png) (https://ibb.co/r4bLKst)
Well that's a pisser.
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I've just changed my VPN to show that I'm in the USA and the link is open again!
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I've just changed my VPN to show that I'm in the USA and the link is open again!
Nice work. Can it be watched on mobile?
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Will the YouTube link still work?
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The YouTube link doesn't, not sure about the MNUFC stream. looks as though it's restricted to Minnesota where as I can only select USA!!
Probably won't work but I can't tell yet.
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How do you do this VPN thing...is it complicated? I’m on a MacBook.m
I can confirm the YouTube link appears to have died.
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How do you do this VPN thing...is it complicated? I’m on a MacBook.m
I can confirm the YouTube link appears to have died.
I have a VPN through a secure password manager. Not sure how to get one otherwise.
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Not sure about on a Mac, but from what I've seen around mobile apps, software security sites offer them these days in their paid packages.
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Works fine on a Mac, getting all my popups in dollars now! or in Spanish.
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We should be ok so I’m not going to panic:
Minnesota United kicks off against newly promoted Premier League side Aston Villa this Wednesday, July 17 at 7 p.m. CT. Tune in to watch that game live, with a full broadcasts brought to you by MNUFC.
Major League Soccer has restricted the audience for this stream in some markets, however, the stream should be available in the Minneapolis-Saint Paul broadcast market and all of the United Kingdom.
Source: https://www.mnufc.com/post/2019/07/16/live-stream-mnufc-vs-aston-villa-international-friendly
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Game will be available in the UK
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A lovely night for a pre season game. It’s bloody hot though
(https://i.ibb.co/HCd3MWX/814971-C9-49-F8-42-DA-9526-623903-FCE11-B.jpg) (https://ibb.co/HCd3MWX)
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Starting line up
Steer, Bree, Hause, Konsa, Targett, Hourihane, Grealish (C), O'Hare, Jota, El Ghazi, Wesley.
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Interesting line up
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Not sure how Minnesota United can become a global brand without streaming their games across the world.
Bring on the Champions!
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Interesting line up
Different XI in the second half apparently
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Villa boys out warming up
(https://i.ibb.co/gMs2BLR/72-C13-DDC-FBA0-4-DF1-A8-E5-72-D400-E550-FF.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gMs2BLR)
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The stream is only available for viewers within the Minneapolis-Saint Paul broadcast market and the United Kingdom.
You're taking the piss!
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Whoever is in charge of the cameras and replays should be sacked.
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Are there any players who haven't seen pre-season action yet ?
Tish ? Is he still around ?
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Are there any players who haven't seen pre-season action yet ?
Tish ? Is he still around ?
Engels
Kodjia
Elmo
Nyland
Tshibola
RHM
Revan
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Yesterday, Stratford Town won 1-0
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D_6-8GGX4AAFfRT.jpg)
A packed Arden Garages Stadium saw another fine skillful encounter as these pre-season friendlies begin to define the season ahead. For Stratford the signs are most encouraging as they matched the undoubted talent and endeavour of a squad of Villa under 23 starlets.
A Liam Hughes goal thumped home with conviction from close range following good work by Chris Cox was all that separated the two teams in the end although there were chances and scares galore at both ends.
Debutant Hughes was to have an impressive game linking well with fellow striker, Nabil Shariff, and as the target man for every Town corner. It was Stratford who was first to press as early as the third minute as a Cox cross was met by Hughes whose header was turned over the bar by keeper, Sinisalo.
Impressing for Villa were Mungo Bridge with pace, touch and vision at the heart of the defence and the tricky and direct Indiana Vassilev on the left. For Town Lomax was outstanding in goal, Tom Fishwick stood tall in defence and Lewis Wilson a calm and authoritative presence in his link play. Captain, Kynan Isaac, gave another cool and measured performance.
In a first half of constant action Dimitri Sea played through Vassilev who missed badly one on one. At the other end a Cox cross caused panic and nearly an own goal before the keeper pounced to clear up.
The second saw changes for both sides and although the game lost some of its intensity it remained an interesting encounter to the end. Shaun Rowley replaced Lomax and was to impress. Joel Gyasi was strong and forceful on the right and Dylan Parker looked lean, sharp and hungry and ready for the fight. A feature of the second half was the quality of James Hancocks’ corners causing the Villa backline much concern. The game was well managed to the end by the Town boys under the watchful eye of manager, Tommy Wright, who must have been delighted.
Attendance: 873
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Is charlton on youtube today?
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Yes, link on youtube home page.