Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: andyh on April 16, 2019, 11:20:21 PM
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Seems to be twitter stories all day that there will be a decision tomorrow morning on whether the Bolton game is on. This latest one says that have until 11am to find the money due to emergency services or their safety licence is revoked.
https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/17578334.boltons-clash-with-aston-villa-yet-to-get-the-go-ahead/
https://twitter.com/thevillahome/status/1118262983636004865?s=21
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Would we be given the 3 points in such a case?
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That seems to be the jist SE. It’s a crap situation for all concerned though, especially their fans.
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Will it or could they just play it without a crowd? Behind closed doors type of thing.
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Surely you would still need some staff, security, that sort of thing? Otherwise fans could just walk in.
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Will it or could they just play it without a crowd? Behind closed doors type of thing.
I think I saw somewhere that that's against EFL rules, unless it's dished out by them as a punishment.
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The EFL rules don’t mention anything about the points be awarded to the opposition but do mention these type of circumstances.
Penalty for Non-Fulfilment of Fixture Obligations
31.1
Any Club failing to fulfil its fixture obligations in respect of any match under the jurisdiction of The League on the appointed date or dates or causing The League to suspend any fixture shall be deemed guilty of misconduct, unless the circumstances giving rise to such failure are outside the control of the Club and could not have been reasonably foreseen or reasonably anticipated and remedied prior to the match. Every Club shall carry out regular and appropriate maintenance and checks to ensure that its safety certificate is not suspended or withdrawn.
31.2
The Club failing to fulfil its fixture or causing The League to suspend such fixture shall be liable to pay compensation for any expenses actually incurred by the opposing Club as a direct result of the failure or suspension. The amount of compensation will be at the discretion of the Board who will consider every such case on its merits. The Board may refer the amount of compensation to be paid to the Disciplinary Commission dealing with the misconduct by the Club failing to fulfil its fixture or causing The League to suspend the same.
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I hope if they can’t play we get the 3 points. And nit a rearranged fixture if they can suddenly find the money after Friday ?
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A rearranged fixture the midweek before the end of the season to make sure we are knackered for the playoffs, if we make it, would be about our luck.
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They have 2 home games left, I think the league will do everything they can to get them to the end of the season.
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If they are short of money they could move their fans into one stand and give Villa the other 3 stands to fill. massive payday for Bolton and we get to take 15k away fans. Sorted
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There would be more info about such a thing before now. Some bitter nose trying to unsettle us is my guess.
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There would be more info about such a thing before now. Some bitter nose trying to unsettle us is my guess.
It's been reported by a Bolton based journalist on Twitter. I reckon it will go ahead anyway.
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Can't the rest of the "football family" have a whip-round and help the poor feckers last at least until May? Man City Inc. could buy them with loose change and use them as a local reserve club.
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The following was published before the article about the game being in doubt for safety reasons
https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/17577931.bolton-wanderers-have-cash-to-see-out-season-claims-efl-chief/
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I think it will get the go ahead but worrying times for Bolton fans.
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Very sad for Bolton fans and a sad state of affairs for such an historic club and fellow founder member.
I really hope they pull through this. Of course I'd prefer three points, I'm not all charity...
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It is very sad for them as a club and I hope our less thoughtful fans attending will be respectful to their fans going through this.
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Will they 'eck as like, blimmin' boneheads.
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Another club who surrendered their heritage for a Lego Stadium.
Then piss poor Financial Management.
A well trodden path.
I do feel sorry for the fans though.
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Another club who surrendered their heritage for a Lego Stadium.
Then piss poor Financial Management.
A well trodden path.
I do feel sorry for the fans though.
2/10 - doesn't even rhyme.
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I feel sorry for the fans... except for the twat with the drum.
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I feel sorry for the fans... except for the twat with the drum.
And Peter Kay, the unfunny ******.
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Knight Rider, remember Knight Rider? Soda streams, eh! What were that about?
*Awaits sell-out tour offer.
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(although I don't mind him really and think Phoenix Nights is great...)
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And Amir Khan.
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(although I don't mind him really and think Phoenix Nights is great...)
Phoenix Nights was brilliant.
Although it was written with Dave Spikey and Neil Cantrecallhissurname so not just Peter Kay.
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You're picking on the wrong Kay. I believe it's Vernon you should be aiming your vitriol at. Annoying twat who somehow, has a very nice Mrs.
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My wife and her family are all from Bolton, and all support them to varying degrees. When we lived in Horwich it was a great away day for me. Few pints in the decent pub at the end of our road, then caught the train from right outside the pub for the 5 minute journey to the stadium.
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There's a Dave Spikey quote on a paving stone on a main street in Bolton. I see it as their equivalent of Sunset Boulevard. It also has Ken Wolstenholme.
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You're picking on the wrong Kay. I believe it's Vernon you should be aiming your vitriol at. Annoying twat who somehow, has a very nice Mrs.
He went out with my wife's sister at school.
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Another club who surrendered their heritage for a Lego Stadium.
Then piss poor Financial Management.
A well trodden path.
I do feel sorry for the fans though.
2/10 - doesn't even rhyme.
Haiku innit.
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Ive not forgiven them for the dive to knock us out the cup early mid 90s when they were lower tier, although Holdsworth's miss at Wembley made up for it.
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Reports coming in a takeover has been agreed. I imagine the game will now go ahead.
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I feel sorry for the fans... except for the twat with the drum.
And Peter Kay, the unfunny c***.
And the fan who wrote the letter to the Mail praising Small Heath ;)
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Let the creditors see the money!
(https://i.ibb.co/tCGW2hF/BP3251597.jpg) (https://ibb.co/tCGW2hF)
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I feel sorry for the fans... except for the twat with the drum.
And Peter Kay, the unfunny c***.
And the fan who wrote the letter to the Mail praising Small Heath ;)
You can't not feel sorry for someone who doesn't exist.
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Takeover confirmed, we're on!
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Do teams often get a change of owners bounce like with managers (save for Stoke of course)? I hope not!
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Well all the wages have been paid now so they have something to play for at least!
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Let the creditors see the money!
(https://i.ibb.co/tCGW2hF/BP3251597.jpg) (https://ibb.co/tCGW2hF)
No pay-ee, no play-ee!
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Takeover confirmed, we're on!
is there such a thing as a new takeover bounce ?
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Great that an old club isn't winding down.
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Takeover confirmed, we're on!
is there such a thing as a new takeover bounce ?
Ask Sunderland.
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I feel sorry for the fans... except for the twat with the drum.
And Peter Kay, the unfunny c***.
And the fan who wrote the letter to the Mail praising Small Heath ;)
You can't not feel sorry for someone who doesn't exist.
Eh..?
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A magical letter sent to the mail, from a Bolton fan , blowing smoke up the arse of everything small Heath. So fake it was embarrassing to read , they lapped it up of course.
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Thought I would write a few lines to you. Firstly, an explanation. I am a Bolton supporter and have been going to watch my team for at least 50 years now. We have seen all the so called big teams at Bolton during that time, and been lucky enough to beat a few of them as well. As I'm getting on a bit now I can say I've been to a good few away grounds and I have been to St Andrews on more than one occasion.
I have also been to Villa Park frequently as well. Man U, Arsenal, Liverpool, you name it I have been there at some point. I feel the main difference between Birmingham and Villa is the people. By that I mean Birmingham supporters on the whole come from within the City and are working class and that shows in the type of atmosphere they create. Villa supporters tend to come from outside the region as well because of their history.
It's so easy to support teams with a successful past like Man U up my way and Villa down yours. So when it was written in the stars that Birmingham needed to beat us or draw and rely on Leicester to beat Doncaster. It was no surprise to me the kind of delirium Birmingham fans would bring to our stadium.
But I have to say the support we witnessed that day was far and above anything I had seen before. To be two nil down and still passionately singing for your team is something else entirely. The noise and the famous anthem they sang was simply superb and I must admit it made me shiver a little. Absolutely fantastic what a set of fans exist at Birmingham, they certainly do not deserve be in the position they were in last Saturday.
Normally I would not care a jot if we were playing a side and it meant if we beat them they got relegated, because you normally finish where you deserve to be. The table never lies. But Saturday when Birmingham got the first I found myself inexplicably hoping the equaliser would come and we all knew the roof would come off the stadium if it did. I have to say you did leave it a little late.
The noise generated when that goal went in was something else and it will stay with me for a very long time. Because it is very rare you see fans in the position Birmingham were in giving their side the kind of backing they provided on Saturday. It took us ages to get to the motorway and we had a great time with Blues fans on the way. It was as if they had won the league, and I dread to think what they would be like if ever that happened.
I remember watching the League Cup Final between Birmingham and Arsenal and they said Blues fans were among the noisiest ever to visit the new Wembley stadium. Well by the evidence of last Saturday you can see why. It leaves me only to wish you all the best for the future and say the Championship would be worse off without Birmingham and its exceptional supporters. They of all sets of fans deserve a winning team and investment in their famous club. That club really is a sleeping giant in the true sense of the word. I think we kid ourselves at Bolton that we could be a future Giant. But at Birmingham you really do possess one the league's true potential giants.
All the Best
A Bolton Season Ticket Holder for many years.
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Thought I would write a few lines to you. Firstly, an explanation. I am a Bolton supporter and have been going to watch my team for at least 50 years now. We have seen all the so called big teams at Bolton during that time, and been lucky enough to beat a few of them as well. As I'm getting on a bit now I can say I've been to a good few away grounds and I have been to St Andrews on more than one occasion.
I have also been to Villa Park frequently as well. Man U, Arsenal, Liverpool, you name it I have been there at some point. I feel the main difference between Birmingham and Villa is the people. By that I mean Birmingham supporters on the whole come from within the City and are working class and that shows in the type of atmosphere they create. Villa supporters tend to come from outside the region as well because of their history.
It's so easy to support teams with a successful past like Man U up my way and Villa down yours. So when it was written in the stars that Birmingham needed to beat us or draw and rely on Leicester to beat Doncaster. It was no surprise to me the kind of delirium Birmingham fans would bring to our stadium.
But I have to say the support we witnessed that day was far and above anything I had seen before. To be two nil down and still passionately singing for your team is something else entirely. The noise and the famous anthem they sang was simply superb and I must admit it made me shiver a little. Absolutely fantastic what a set of fans exist at Birmingham, they certainly do not deserve be in the position they were in last Saturday.
Normally I would not care a jot if we were playing a side and it meant if we beat them they got relegated, because you normally finish where you deserve to be. The table never lies. But Saturday when Birmingham got the first I found myself inexplicably hoping the equaliser would come and we all knew the roof would come off the stadium if it did. I have to say you did leave it a little late.
The noise generated when that goal went in was something else and it will stay with me for a very long time. Because it is very rare you see fans in the position Birmingham were in giving their side the kind of backing they provided on Saturday. It took us ages to get to the motorway and we had a great time with Blues fans on the way. It was as if they had won the league, and I dread to think what they would be like if ever that happened.
I remember watching the League Cup Final between Birmingham and Arsenal and they said Blues fans were among the noisiest ever to visit the new Wembley stadium. Well by the evidence of last Saturday you can see why. It leaves me only to wish you all the best for the future and say the Championship would be worse off without Birmingham and its exceptional supporters. They of all sets of fans deserve a winning team and investment in their famous club. That club really is a sleeping giant in the true sense of the word. I think we kid ourselves at Bolton that we could be a future Giant. But at Birmingham you really do possess one the league's true potential giants.
All the Best
A Bolton Season Ticket Holder for many years.
Blimey. Don't do drugs kids.
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Takeover confirmed, we're on!
is there such a thing as a new takeover bounce ?
Doug Ellis 2 Norwich 1
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Laughable isn’t it.
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Delaying the inevitable, the buyer has been made bankrupt twice before. Don’t hold your breath Trotters fans.
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That letter is the biggest pile of pish I have had the misfortune to waste a couple of minutes of my time reading. Big club? Come from inside the City but we don't? You daft northern ******. A sleeping giant? You should write comedy for a living, perhaps your hearing aid was on a high setting when they visited. Clearly, you missed the assault on Jack Grealish or the seat throwing at Villa fans a couple of seasons ago? I sincerely hope we fucking smash Bolton and send them back to the third division. Dean Smith should read that letter out before the game as a motivating factor.
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Delaying the inevitable, the buyer has been made bankrupt twice before. Don’t hold your breath Trotters fans.
I heard him on sky earlier he hasn’t paid any of the debts off yet as he hasn’t done any due diligence. This one has still got legs.
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It’s written by a Bolton ST holder of many years. He’s only saying what he’s experiencing.
Only joking. It’s a pathetic nose thinking he’s furthering their cause and at the same time attempting to belittle us. It’s such a shit attempt it’s actually hilarious.
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Is it just me?
The takeover is subject to approval by the English Football League (EFL) and Bassini has twice been declared bankrupt and was previously banned from football for three years for alleged financial misconduct.
But given that Shaun Harvey, the EFL chief executive, said earlier this month that there was “no reason” why Bassini would not pass their owner and directors’ test given that he has no active disqualifications, the buy-out seems likely to be ratified, despite widespread concern among supporters.
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It’s written by a Bolton ST holder of many years. He’s only saying what he’s experiencing.
Only joking. It’s a pathetic nose thinking he’s furthering their cause and at the same time attempting to belittle us. It’s such a shit attempt it’s actually hilarious.
It's a full house on Small Heath Bullshit Bingo.
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He missed out "having the name of the city". Poor show.
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That ‘letter’ never stops being hilarious. Let’s not forget their fucking club published it on their website!
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Thought I would write a few lines to you. Firstly, an explanation. I am a Bolton supporter and have been going to watch my team for at least 50 years now. We have seen all the so called big teams at Bolton during that time, and been lucky enough to beat a few of them as well. As I'm getting on a bit now I can say I've been to a good few away grounds and I have been to St Andrews on more than one occasion.
I have also been to Villa Park frequently as well. Man U, Arsenal, Liverpool, you name it I have been there at some point. I feel the main difference between Birmingham and Villa is the people. By that I mean Birmingham supporters on the whole come from within the City and are working class and that shows in the type of atmosphere they create. Villa supporters tend to come from outside the region as well because of their history.
It's so easy to support teams with a successful past like Man U up my way and Villa down yours. So when it was written in the stars that Birmingham needed to beat us or draw and rely on Leicester to beat Doncaster. It was no surprise to me the kind of delirium Birmingham fans would bring to our stadium.
But I have to say the support we witnessed that day was far and above anything I had seen before. To be two nil down and still passionately singing for your team is something else entirely. The noise and the famous anthem they sang was simply superb and I must admit it made me shiver a little. Absolutely fantastic what a set of fans exist at Birmingham, they certainly do not deserve be in the position they were in last Saturday.
Normally I would not care a jot if we were playing a side and it meant if we beat them they got relegated, because you normally finish where you deserve to be. The table never lies. But Saturday when Birmingham got the first I found myself inexplicably hoping the equaliser would come and we all knew the roof would come off the stadium if it did. I have to say you did leave it a little late.
The noise generated when that goal went in was something else and it will stay with me for a very long time. Because it is very rare you see fans in the position Birmingham were in giving their side the kind of backing they provided on Saturday. It took us ages to get to the motorway and we had a great time with Blues fans on the way. It was as if they had won the league, and I dread to think what they would be like if ever that happened.
I remember watching the League Cup Final between Birmingham and Arsenal and they said Blues fans were among the noisiest ever to visit the new Wembley stadium. Well by the evidence of last Saturday you can see why. It leaves me only to wish you all the best for the future and say the Championship would be worse off without Birmingham and its exceptional supporters. They of all sets of fans deserve a winning team and investment in their famous club. That club really is a sleeping giant in the true sense of the word. I think we kid ourselves at Bolton that we could be a future Giant. But at Birmingham you really do possess one the league's true potential giants.
All the Best
A Bolton Season Ticket Holder for many years.
Blimey. Don't do drugs kids.
Strange how seems to know where the fans apparently come from and calls it the famous anthem..
They have now obviously reached the point where they know they cant debate with us and are reverting to pretending to be from other clubs ...sad so very sad
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It missed bearing the name of the city, taking 500,000 to Bruges and it must have killed the "Bolton" fan to miss out KRO SOTV at the end. Hilarious then and hilarious now!
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Some sad obsessive nose in worcestershire has that as their personalised number plate. Instead of the S and replacing it with a 5, they've got a 4! Thick sh-t nose!
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I have been to Bolton to see the Villa but I can't claim to have such an in depth knowledge of their fans and the fans of their rival clubs as that Bolton fan has regarding us and Small Heath. I am flattered by his research and interest. As for Bolton's new ownership, I have never been convinced by the fit and proper ownership criteria and I suspect this takeover may once again show it's limitations.