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Title: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 16, 2019, 02:01:29 PM
Tiny’s team will come to grab a point. The first goal will be critical for us. I think we will dominate possession, we just need to make it count. No Conor - I didn’t hear of an injury. Whelan in.


(https://i.ibb.co/JxVHRqD/F13-FE9-A2-230-D-44-D1-8-ECF-CF9310-E800-A1.png) (https://ibb.co/JxVHRqD)
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: garyshawsknee on March 16, 2019, 02:06:34 PM
Are you cleared to set up a match thread T.V ?!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Sexual Ealing on March 16, 2019, 02:07:18 PM
DS said he's make changes as it's the third game in six days, which is fair enough. That said, a thirty yard belter could be what it takes to open them up, so we're stuck with relying on one of only McGinn, Grealish or El Ghazi. Risky. #hubris
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on March 16, 2019, 02:07:25 PM
Can someone post the team
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Colhint on March 16, 2019, 02:07:51 PM
Not surprised about connor. This is our 3rd game in 6 days, probably needs a rest.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 16, 2019, 02:08:54 PM
Are you cleared to set up a match thread T.V ?!!

Haha you must have missed that I did the Nose thread Mr Knee. All ended well
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Tuscans on March 16, 2019, 02:09:03 PM
Can someone post the team
I know its small but....
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Legion on March 16, 2019, 02:09:19 PM
Can someone post the team

See above.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 16, 2019, 02:10:06 PM
Sorry did it from my phone makes it harder to see. If someone can replace with a laptop version might be better.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Colhint on March 16, 2019, 02:10:09 PM
Boro

Keeper, ,defender,defender,defender,defender,defender,defender,defender,defender,defender.
not a defender.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Tuscans on March 16, 2019, 02:11:14 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1yPkhTXcAIcOAV.png:large)
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: jwarry on March 16, 2019, 02:12:33 PM
Is Conor injured? Not even on the bench
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: eddiemunster on March 16, 2019, 02:15:35 PM
Boro

Brick wall, sandbags,more sandbags, a higher wall, a moat, another brick in the wall, pink Floyd ,cuddly toy, conveyor belt, sliding doors and Bruce Forsyth...…...good game, good game  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on March 16, 2019, 02:17:03 PM
Is Conor injured? Not even on the bench
No mention of an injury in press conference
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Legion on March 16, 2019, 02:17:28 PM
Rested?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: eddiemunster on March 16, 2019, 02:20:09 PM
Rested?

Can't see him being rested, especially as we don't have another game until the end of the month!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Tuscans on March 16, 2019, 02:21:46 PM
Rested?

Can't see him being rested, especially as we don't have another game until the end of the month!
Gone to Cardiff, getting the rounds in, waiting for Whelo.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 16, 2019, 02:27:29 PM
Hopefully it's just a small knock he has and we're playing it safe so as he has a couple of weeks to recover.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: themossman on March 16, 2019, 02:32:27 PM
We’ll miss Hourihane.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Mister E on March 16, 2019, 02:32:34 PM
Since I'm out of the country for this one, I'm going to watch Houston Dynamo play Vancouver Whitecaps today at the BBVA Stadium. A new one for me.
I'll get the first half from VP first.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Villa Lew on March 16, 2019, 02:36:27 PM
Good to see Carroll on the bench and hope Davis gets a game.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: LukeJames on March 16, 2019, 02:36:28 PM
5-4-1 for Boro. Not even Bruce tried that one.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 16, 2019, 02:40:23 PM
Good to see Carroll on the bench and hope Davis gets a game.

It would have been good to see him get a start over Whelan today given Conor is out.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on March 16, 2019, 02:41:13 PM
Presumably we won’t miss him given how people cheered his substitution and nicknamed him Hologram the other week.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on March 16, 2019, 02:48:06 PM
An early goal and we'll smash these. Got to feel sorry for the Boro fans having Tiny Penis as manager. You travel all the way down to Brum to see your team set out to defend for 90 minutes. We just need to keep it on the deck, lots of movement and plenty of shots from outside the box and we'll rip them a new one.

Don't fook up, Villa.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 16, 2019, 02:48:46 PM
It looks like we might have a manager whose rotation is based on the opposition rather than the principle of throw enough against the wall.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Ducksworthy on March 16, 2019, 02:48:47 PM
Any streams would be gratefully received!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Gido82 on March 16, 2019, 02:48:59 PM
A scrappy,hard fought game against a dull club and a dull manager but nevertheless one we'll win 2-0.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on March 16, 2019, 02:53:56 PM
el ghazi I think is lucky to start

expect him to put a shift in for being rewarded for being very average

come on villa .. we still have plenty to win this without CH

Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: VancouverLion on March 16, 2019, 02:54:42 PM
Don't care how, just win Villa please.

1-0 Tammy 66 min
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Bad English on March 16, 2019, 02:54:57 PM
Come on you Villa boys. Get into 'em! Fuck 'em up!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Havencheese on March 16, 2019, 02:56:36 PM
Any streams would be gratefully received!

Yes. Seconded.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: dicedlam on March 16, 2019, 02:58:39 PM
Any streams would be gratefully received!

Yes. Seconded.

Me too, please.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Sexual Ealing on March 16, 2019, 02:58:55 PM
Any streams would be gratefully received!

Yes. Seconded.


Not that I approve of this sort of thing, but thirded.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Jim Bradley on March 16, 2019, 02:59:03 PM
And me...
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: jwarry on March 16, 2019, 03:02:07 PM
Boro sitting back already
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Mister E on March 16, 2019, 03:02:16 PM
I'd be grateful for a nod  in the right direction too, please.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Risso on March 16, 2019, 03:06:19 PM
Sodding OS appears to be down.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: SamTheMouse on March 16, 2019, 03:08:31 PM
Any streams would be gratefully received!

Yes. Seconded.


Not that I approve of this sort of thing, but thirded.

It's absolutely disgraceful.

Please.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Risso on March 16, 2019, 03:08:46 PM
Boro camped in their own half.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on March 16, 2019, 03:09:19 PM
Sodding OS appears to be down.

Mine's working.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Risso on March 16, 2019, 03:09:44 PM
Sodding OS appears to be down.

Mine's working.

Mine is now.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on March 16, 2019, 03:09:50 PM
How many corners have we won in the first 5 minutes?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Tuscans on March 16, 2019, 03:10:04 PM
If the OS is down then it's unlikely there will be stream until its back up, unless someones streaming from the stands.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Tuscans on March 16, 2019, 03:10:18 PM
How many corners have we won in the first 5 minutes?
4
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on March 16, 2019, 03:11:15 PM
McGinn missed a good headed chance after a minute apparently.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Risso on March 16, 2019, 03:12:11 PM
How are Boro top 6?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on March 16, 2019, 03:13:18 PM
Sheffield Wednesday winning.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on March 16, 2019, 03:13:23 PM
21 players in the Boro half, this is going to be tricky.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on March 16, 2019, 03:13:33 PM
How are Boro top 6?
By not conceding many and boring their opponents into submission I'd guess.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on March 16, 2019, 03:14:30 PM
Sheff Wed winning
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Risso on March 16, 2019, 03:14:35 PM
McGinn's passing has been a bit awry so far.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: SamTheMouse on March 16, 2019, 03:15:45 PM
If the OS is down then it's unlikely there will be stream until its back up, unless someones streaming from the stands.

Someone is streaming it from the stands. And I've just paid 6 quid to watch it on the OS.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on March 16, 2019, 03:15:56 PM
When we finally get a clear chance we'll have to be clinical as I can't see too many coming our way the way Boro are approaching this.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Breezeblock on March 16, 2019, 03:16:31 PM
Any streams would be gratefully received!
And me please
Yes. Seconded.

Me too, please.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on March 16, 2019, 03:16:47 PM
any streams going gents?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Tuscans on March 16, 2019, 03:17:39 PM
If the OS is down then it's unlikely there will be stream until its back up, unless someones streaming from the stands.

Someone is streaming it from the stands. And I've just paid 6 quid to watch it on the OS.
:)
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: SamTheMouse on March 16, 2019, 03:18:06 PM
If the OS is down then it's unlikely there will be stream until its back up, unless someones streaming from the stands.

Someone is streaming it from the stands. And I've just paid 6 quid to watch it on the OS.

To clarify, I meant that the OS stream looks like it's being filmed by someone on their phone in the stands. I wish they'd zoom out a bit.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: passport1 on March 16, 2019, 03:18:58 PM
I'd be delighted with a stream
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on March 16, 2019, 03:19:25 PM
Time wasting wankers
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Risso on March 16, 2019, 03:22:43 PM
El Ghazi is absolute gash.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Kimaster1976 on March 16, 2019, 03:22:59 PM
Can anyone PM me a stream too please
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Smirker on March 16, 2019, 03:23:29 PM
I'd be delighted with a stream

I don't think there is one tbf. Need to get back into the PL.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 16, 2019, 03:24:38 PM
#sadnessinmyeyes at being unable to find a stream.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Risso on March 16, 2019, 03:26:07 PM
We've had lots of possession but our final balls have all been horrible.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on March 16, 2019, 03:26:15 PM
Imagine paying to see this eyebleeding shit from Boro every week.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: jwarry on March 16, 2019, 03:26:37 PM
El Ghazi is absolute gash.

I think he’s doing alright to be honest and he’s clearly the outball and has been told to run at them at pace
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Havencheese on March 16, 2019, 03:26:57 PM
Pulis 1010101010101000000111111000100011111000000111100001000001000011111101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010010101010101010100101 0-1 binary code football.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: TheMalandro on March 16, 2019, 03:26:59 PM
Is it windy in Brum?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on March 16, 2019, 03:27:17 PM
Better early cross from Elmo
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on March 16, 2019, 03:27:30 PM
Yes.  Very.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Risso on March 16, 2019, 03:27:37 PM
El Ghazi is absolute gash.

I think he’s doing alright to be honest and he’s clearly the outball and has been told to run at them at pace

He can run with the ball a bit, but he never, ever makes a good decision when it comes to doing something with it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Risso on March 16, 2019, 03:28:30 PM
What a pass from Mings.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: themossman on March 16, 2019, 03:28:44 PM
Pulis 1010101010101000000111111000100011111000000111100001000001000011111101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010010101010101010100101 0-1 binary code football.

That looked for a second like we’d scored goal. Go and sit on the naughty step.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Risso on March 16, 2019, 03:28:44 PM
Gooooooaaaaallllllll!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: jwarry on March 16, 2019, 03:29:00 PM
El Ghazi is absolute gash.

Ha I told you!

I think he’s doing alright to be honest and he’s clearly the outball and has been told to run at them at pace
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: TheMalandro on March 16, 2019, 03:29:01 PM
Yes.  Very.

Cheers
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on March 16, 2019, 03:29:04 PM
El Ghazi.

All came from a great interception from SJM
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: devilla on March 16, 2019, 03:29:09 PM
YESSSSSS!!!!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Risso on March 16, 2019, 03:29:10 PM
El Ghazi - fucking love that lad!! 😂😂😂😂
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: SamTheMouse on March 16, 2019, 03:29:18 PM
Tidy finish that!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on March 16, 2019, 03:29:23 PM
El Ghazi is absolute gash.

I think he’s doing alright to be honest and he’s clearly the outball and has been told to run at them at pace

He can run with the ball a bit, but he never, ever makes a good decision when it comes to doing something with it.
8) ???
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Tuscans on March 16, 2019, 03:29:31 PM
Found a stream lads....

(https://i.ibb.co/GcQy9Cy/stream.png) (https://ibb.co/GcQy9Cy)

wordsworth lines written in early spring (https://poetandpoem.com/analysis-of-lines-written-in-early-spring-by-william-wordsworth)

Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on March 16, 2019, 03:29:32 PM
Get in
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Smirker on March 16, 2019, 03:29:32 PM
El Ghazi is absolute gash.

 ;D
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Risso on March 16, 2019, 03:29:48 PM
Grealish, he's bloody rubbish.
Abraham, absolutely useless.
McGinn, bloody dreadful.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 16, 2019, 03:29:56 PM
It has to be murder being a Boro fan having to watch this negative bollocks week after week. He’s come to pinch a point and hopefully 3 if they get us on the break then close up shop. It’s very frustrating so far because we are front ok without breaking through.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: themossman on March 16, 2019, 03:29:59 PM
Pulis 1010101010101000000111111000100011111000000111100001000001000011111101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010010101010101010100101 0-1 binary code football.

That looked for a second like we’d scored goal. Go and sit on the naughty step.

Got lucky there you can come back now.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: jwarry on March 16, 2019, 03:30:17 PM
El Ghazi - fucking love that lad!! 😂😂😂😂

Can you moan about him again please Risso
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on March 16, 2019, 03:30:20 PM
el ghazi I think is lucky to start

expect him to put a shift in for being rewarded for being very average

come on villa .. we still have plenty to win this without CH




nice one son  :)
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Legion on March 16, 2019, 03:30:31 PM
Keep up the good work, Martin!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: TheMalandro on March 16, 2019, 03:30:38 PM
El Ghazi is absolute gash.

 ;D

😂
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 16, 2019, 03:30:43 PM
Haha take that Risso
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Sexual Ealing on March 16, 2019, 03:31:23 PM
It's much less stressful when you can't see it (that's also how I explain my enduring attractiveness despite the expanding beer gut).
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on March 16, 2019, 03:32:51 PM
Lovely, more please Villa.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on March 16, 2019, 03:32:52 PM
the snake is coming on
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: jwarry on March 16, 2019, 03:32:56 PM
What Pulis making a positive change, what’s going on
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: SamTheMouse on March 16, 2019, 03:33:13 PM
It has to be murder being a Boro fan having to watch this negative bollocks week after week. He’s come to pinch a point and hopefully 3 if they get us on the break then close up shop. It’s very frustrating so far because we are front ok without breaking through.

There are cretaceous rocks in the natural history museum with more progressive ideas than Tiny Penis.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: john e on March 16, 2019, 03:33:27 PM
El Ghazi is absolute gash.

 ;D

😂


ha ha Rizzo owned

( I thought exactly the same up until the goal)
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on March 16, 2019, 03:33:43 PM
Ha. Pulis haviing to make a tactical change and taking Shotton off.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: dicedlam on March 16, 2019, 03:34:22 PM
In the top six now  :)
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Mossie Hennebry on March 16, 2019, 03:34:26 PM
It's much less stressful when you can't see it (that's also how I explain my enduring attractiveness despite the expanding beer gut).
Be thankful that yours is due to beer, I just have the gut.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Tuscans on March 16, 2019, 03:34:48 PM
Premature but fuck it...
(https://i.ibb.co/XzsyL0S/table.png) (https://ibb.co/XzsyL0S)
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: jwarry on March 16, 2019, 03:36:40 PM
Fucking hell ref that was a sending off and you never even gave a free kick!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on March 16, 2019, 03:36:41 PM
feckin ell ref
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Sexual Ealing on March 16, 2019, 03:37:23 PM
HOW ARE YOU PEOPLE SEEING IT?!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on March 16, 2019, 03:37:47 PM
Another idiot ref
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Smirker on March 16, 2019, 03:38:25 PM
HOW ARE YOU PEOPLE SEEING IT?!

Stream on website I think. Have to pay though.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Risso on March 16, 2019, 03:38:29 PM
HOW ARE YOU PEOPLE SEEING IT?!

I think we're just shading it at the moment.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Deano's Mullet on March 16, 2019, 03:38:48 PM
El Ghazi needed a goal. I hope he really turns it on now! Was he given the first goal at WBA or was it an own goal?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: jwarry on March 16, 2019, 03:39:05 PM
Green go for goal you numpty!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Sexual Ealing on March 16, 2019, 03:39:17 PM
HOW ARE YOU PEOPLE SEEING IT?!

I think we're just shading it at the moment.

Ha!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on March 16, 2019, 03:39:20 PM
green should have just hit in at the goal
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Villa Lew on March 16, 2019, 03:39:30 PM
Well done Anwar, now let's see you find your top form.

UP THE VILLA
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on March 16, 2019, 03:39:34 PM
A typical Pauli’s team we are very much in control.we need a second
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: jwarry on March 16, 2019, 03:41:04 PM
Downing has made a difference for them, they have more of a threat now
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on March 16, 2019, 03:41:18 PM
Good punch from Steer
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Risso on March 16, 2019, 03:41:34 PM
Great punch Steer.

He's absolute gash though, obvs.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: john e on March 16, 2019, 03:44:04 PM
Remember in last seasons play offs when both teams bored themselves to death
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Tuscans on March 16, 2019, 03:44:55 PM
GOAL
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Risso on March 16, 2019, 03:45:13 PM
McGiiinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on March 16, 2019, 03:45:21 PM
McGinn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Risso on March 16, 2019, 03:45:24 PM
WHAT A FUCKING GOAL!!!!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 16, 2019, 03:45:29 PM
I love John McGinn
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on March 16, 2019, 03:45:38 PM
SJM!!!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: jwarry on March 16, 2019, 03:45:44 PM
WEVE GOT MCGUINN!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Risso on March 16, 2019, 03:45:45 PM
That was an absolute beaut.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: devilla on March 16, 2019, 03:46:03 PM
McGinn again!!!

Great finish.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 16, 2019, 03:46:13 PM
SCORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRCHIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: BoVillan esq on March 16, 2019, 03:46:19 PM
Yes that'll do it, come on you Villa boys let's make this top 6 for goodness sake
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: SamTheMouse on March 16, 2019, 03:46:22 PM
Fuck yeah! What a great finish that was.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on March 16, 2019, 03:46:30 PM
Watching the replay that's a superb finish under pressure from 2 defenders.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 16, 2019, 03:47:07 PM
Our movement at times is simply outstanding.

Here's the interesting bit in this recent run. When we were winning earlier in the season our midfield was scoring goals. And now again the pressure is being taken off Tammy by our midfielders all contributing. I love it
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 16, 2019, 03:47:18 PM
Found a stream just in time to see the replay, 1 up at last!!




Goals don't count if I didn't see and scorchio them, it's in the EFL rules.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Breezeblock on March 16, 2019, 03:47:46 PM
Found a stream just in time to see the replay, 1 up at last!!




Goals don't count if I didn't see and scorchio them, it's in the EFL rules.
can you share please mate?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on March 16, 2019, 03:48:03 PM
Get in!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on March 16, 2019, 03:48:24 PM
Great performance
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Ducksworthy on March 16, 2019, 03:48:26 PM
Found a stream just in time to see the replay, 1 up at last!!




Goals don't count if I didn't see and scorchio them, it's in the EFL rules.

Sharing is caring...
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 16, 2019, 03:48:26 PM
Really very good patient first half. Thoroughly deserved 2-0 lead
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: SamTheMouse on March 16, 2019, 03:48:37 PM
McGinn really is a diamond. Absolutely fantastic player.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 16, 2019, 03:49:03 PM
gofundme/poundforthelink.co.uk
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Risso on March 16, 2019, 03:49:07 PM
That was as comfortable as the last time we gave them a lesson in football.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on March 16, 2019, 03:49:51 PM
McGinn really is a diamond. Absolutely fantastic player.
Loved his celebration.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Villa Lew on March 16, 2019, 03:50:31 PM
I love you SJM

UP THE VILLA
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: VancouverLion on March 16, 2019, 03:50:33 PM
Superb performance really starting to look the part.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 16, 2019, 03:50:42 PM
If you want the link drop me a pm and hopefully it will be back for the 2nd half.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on March 16, 2019, 03:51:00 PM
The SJM goal all started with a wonderful bit of defending and skill from Elmo.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: mallo on March 16, 2019, 03:51:24 PM
Come on boys let’s flatten them!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on March 16, 2019, 03:52:15 PM
this is fecking great :)
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Bad English on March 16, 2019, 03:52:46 PM
Come on you Villa boys!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Steve67 on March 16, 2019, 03:53:30 PM
Brilliant Villa, keep it up.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: BoVillan esq on March 16, 2019, 03:57:22 PM
Lets see another one or couple without conceding, goal diff always a bonus in this position, as the game goes on rest a few, all nicely controlled.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Ger Regan on March 16, 2019, 03:57:23 PM
Boro getting exactly what they deserve.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: VancouverLion on March 16, 2019, 03:59:03 PM
Start believing boys, it's well and truly on!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 16, 2019, 04:01:49 PM
I think i've replied to everyone, don't blame me if they don't show the second half!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: themossman on March 16, 2019, 04:03:26 PM
I think i've replied to everyone, don't blame me if they don't show the second half!

Me please :-)
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on March 16, 2019, 04:04:09 PM
Come on you Villa boys!

How can they come on any more? They're giving all they can!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Colhint on March 16, 2019, 04:04:38 PM
I think i've replied to everyone, don't blame me if they don't show the second half!

Me please :-)

me to pretty please
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 16, 2019, 04:04:51 PM
FFS

"No second half stream. Internet police. Sorry."
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: eddiemunster on March 16, 2019, 04:04:57 PM
I agree with Risso, all of our players are gash and will be until after the play offs. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on March 16, 2019, 04:05:09 PM
Lets see another one or couple without conceding, goal diff always a bonus in this position, as the game goes on rest a few, all nicely controlled.

Would love to see Keinan get a run out, has he even played this season?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on March 16, 2019, 04:06:47 PM
Boro getting another sub ready?

Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on March 16, 2019, 04:07:30 PM
Assomobolonga on for Wing
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on March 16, 2019, 04:08:05 PM
El Ghazi so close.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 16, 2019, 04:08:13 PM
Should have scored again. AEG close
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: jwarry on March 16, 2019, 04:08:16 PM
Bloody hell Pulis going two up top, is he not well?!?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on March 16, 2019, 04:09:06 PM
Bloody hell Pulis going two up top, is he not well?!?
Just desperate
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: BoVillan esq on March 16, 2019, 04:10:20 PM
Bloody hell Pulis going two up top, is he not well?!?

He knows if they concede another its curtains, he has to try and pull one back early on.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Legion on March 16, 2019, 04:10:36 PM
Great stuff, BE.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 16, 2019, 04:10:55 PM
Maybe need to knock that freekick routine on the head
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: jwarry on March 16, 2019, 04:12:01 PM
Jack getting sloppy, come on son
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 16, 2019, 04:12:31 PM
Tyrone Fucking Mings is just superb
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: IFWaters on March 16, 2019, 04:12:36 PM
This international break is a pain in the arse.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 16, 2019, 04:12:57 PM
El Ghazi needs to look up because we should have scored again
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on March 16, 2019, 04:13:12 PM
Another good chance for El Ghazi
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: BoVillan esq on March 16, 2019, 04:13:27 PM
This international break is a pain in the arse.

My greatest fear for Villa at this time
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: jwarry on March 16, 2019, 04:14:01 PM
Think I’d bring Albert on for Green now
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: themossman on March 16, 2019, 04:14:41 PM
I think it’s good timing we still have a lot of recently injured and injury prone players.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 16, 2019, 04:14:46 PM
Tammy Abraham works so hard. Brilliant
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: jwarry on March 16, 2019, 04:15:14 PM
Lovely control from Tammy there without actually controlling it!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: jwarry on March 16, 2019, 04:18:08 PM
Andre not at the races today needs to come off
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on March 16, 2019, 04:18:34 PM
Andre not at the races today needs to come off
Agreed.

(Cue a 30 yeard screamer)
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 16, 2019, 04:18:47 PM
We’re trying to do too much. A bit greedy recently. An extra pass at a key moment and we’ll score again
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 16, 2019, 04:19:33 PM
Ooooooh Tammy close
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 16, 2019, 04:19:49 PM
Hopefully everyone has a new link in their inbox
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 16, 2019, 04:19:50 PM
Albert for Andre Green it appears
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 16, 2019, 04:20:11 PM
Jack close
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 16, 2019, 04:22:24 PM
El Ghazi dummying himself!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 16, 2019, 04:22:26 PM
Lovely stuff by us.

Andre off for Albert
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on March 16, 2019, 04:22:28 PM
Adomah for Green
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on March 16, 2019, 04:23:03 PM
That was a superb spell of pressure from us.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 16, 2019, 04:23:08 PM
We're toying with them at the moment.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 16, 2019, 04:23:38 PM
It would be good to get a third and give Carroll and Keenan a game for Jack and Tammy.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Sexual Ealing on March 16, 2019, 04:24:38 PM
Tammy should've played McGinn in.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 16, 2019, 04:24:47 PM
That was a warning.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 16, 2019, 04:26:32 PM
They’re getting a bit of the ball here. Bit concerning.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: jwarry on March 16, 2019, 04:26:46 PM
Need a third they are sneaking back into this
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on March 16, 2019, 04:27:23 PM
A lot of good performances from some of the some of the more  maligned players
Whelan Elmo Taylor
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: BoVillan esq on March 16, 2019, 04:27:33 PM
We're toying with them at the moment.

Tonka Trucks!!.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on March 16, 2019, 04:28:07 PM
We're toying with them at the moment.

Tonka Trucks!!.

Paw Patrol!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 16, 2019, 04:28:31 PM
Have to say as Whelan’s number one critic he’s been really excellent today.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 16, 2019, 04:28:44 PM
Tammy looks fucked and might be coming off
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 16, 2019, 04:29:34 PM
Tammy signalling to the bench
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on March 16, 2019, 04:30:11 PM
Abraham off for Kodjia
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: glinch on March 16, 2019, 04:30:22 PM
I think i've replied to everyone, don't blame me if they don't show the second half!

Me please :-)

Any chance I could have a link also. For some reason my AVFC subscription has disappeared.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 16, 2019, 04:31:19 PM
Good news is Tammy is on the bench so hopefully miss the international game and get some rest.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: SamTheMouse on March 16, 2019, 04:31:39 PM
Mings' demeanour is brilliant, he's got the natural air of a leader.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on March 16, 2019, 04:33:07 PM
Davis for El Ghazi
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 16, 2019, 04:33:09 PM
Keinan on for El Ghazi
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on March 16, 2019, 04:33:48 PM
Mings' demeanour is brilliant, he's got the natural air of a leader.
He just exudes an air of "who want's to try and f%&k with me then?"
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: BoVillan esq on March 16, 2019, 04:34:11 PM
Mings' demeanour is brilliant, he's got the natural air of a leader.

Perhaps he may consider Brexit on the side.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Sexual Ealing on March 16, 2019, 04:34:25 PM
Albert is fucking infuriating at times.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: jwarry on March 16, 2019, 04:36:31 PM
Glen has suddenly become a hero!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 16, 2019, 04:37:57 PM
He looks a lot chunkier does Keinan
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: jwarry on March 16, 2019, 04:40:23 PM
Fuck knows what system we are playing now
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 16, 2019, 04:41:07 PM
Whelan is comfortably MOM
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: jwarry on March 16, 2019, 04:42:25 PM
Come on boys don’t fuck about
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: SamTheMouse on March 16, 2019, 04:44:06 PM
The commentator is doing his best to tempt fate. Shut up you tart!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Tuscans on March 16, 2019, 04:46:25 PM
GOAL
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 16, 2019, 04:46:34 PM
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS 3-0
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 16, 2019, 04:46:34 PM
Boro playing for the 0-0, while 2-0 down. I'd hate to watch that shit every week, Bruceball was bad enough but Pulis takes it to a whole other level.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 16, 2019, 04:46:52 PM
Ta Ra Tiny
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on March 16, 2019, 04:46:56 PM
Albert!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shit keeping from Davis' shot.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: jwarry on March 16, 2019, 04:47:05 PM
Well played Kienan!! ALBERT
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: SamTheMouse on March 16, 2019, 04:47:21 PM
Boom! This is great.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on March 16, 2019, 04:47:32 PM
Get in, lovely stuff.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 16, 2019, 04:47:34 PM
SCOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRCHIOOOOOOOOOOO

Fuck you Pulis
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: BoVillan esq on March 16, 2019, 04:47:52 PM
What a team, simply the best, well done lads, what can you say, we really are in contention now. it just got serious.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: themossman on March 16, 2019, 04:48:16 PM
Great GD as well.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Villan For Life on March 16, 2019, 04:48:44 PM
Get in Villa!!!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: jwarry on March 16, 2019, 04:48:48 PM
Mings is some defender isn’t he
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: jwarry on March 16, 2019, 04:49:22 PM
Bruce’s Wednesday scoring goals for fun
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: mallo on March 16, 2019, 04:49:40 PM
That’s it - we’re back - get in.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: BoVillan esq on March 16, 2019, 04:50:44 PM
Bruce’s Wednesday scoring goals for fun

How the flip flop that's happening is beyond me.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: jwarry on March 16, 2019, 04:50:59 PM
Kodj is just not the same player is he
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: TopDeck113 on March 16, 2019, 04:51:53 PM
Bruce’s Wednesday scoring goals for fun

His coaching methods are obviously not yet having the desired impact
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 16, 2019, 04:51:58 PM
Kodj is just not the same player is he

Confidence and belief shot
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on March 16, 2019, 04:52:17 PM
That'll do.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: mallo on March 16, 2019, 04:55:52 PM
Preston have just scored
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on March 16, 2019, 04:55:57 PM
Preston score
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough Match Thread
Post by: mallo on March 16, 2019, 04:56:49 PM
I don’t think Middlesbrough will stay in the top 6 now - no goals in them.
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