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Title: Away Scheme 2019/2020
Post by: wittonwarrior on February 15, 2019, 08:33:32 PM
Changed criteria again

Can no longer pick and  choose unconditionally - need to commit to  15 aways - admin fee lowered to £25
Title: Re: Away Scheme 2019/2020
Post by: cdbearsfan on February 15, 2019, 09:42:10 PM
That sounds fairer. It's still basically a tax on away fans but at least means those who attend the most matches will have preference, which is how it should be.
Title: Re: Away Scheme 2019/2020
Post by: wittonwarrior on February 15, 2019, 11:03:56 PM
Tend to agree with you Chris but why have such a scheme in the first place.
Title: Re: Away Scheme 2019/2020
Post by: cdbearsfan on February 15, 2019, 11:07:14 PM
I agree with you. Sorry, there was a typo in my post, it should make sense now. I don't agree with the charge at all.
Title: Re: Away Scheme 2019/2020
Post by: LowerNorthStand on March 05, 2019, 12:14:56 AM
Changed criteria again

Can no longer pick and  choose unconditionally - need to commit to  15 aways - admin fee lowered to £25

Where have you seen that Witton?
Title: Re: Away Scheme 2019/2020
Post by: wittonwarrior on March 05, 2019, 08:35:06 AM
On the season ticket pack
Title: Re: Away Scheme 2019/2020
Post by: wittonwarrior on March 11, 2019, 03:23:05 PM
I know I am dead against it but not going to have to beg again for the likes of Albion and blues tickets so will join next season’s scheme - the links b en taken down though
Title: Re: Away Scheme 2019/2020
Post by: achilles on June 04, 2019, 05:43:56 PM
How do you join this scheme as I can't find it anywhere?
Title: Re: Away Scheme 2019/2020
Post by: cdbearsfan on June 04, 2019, 06:30:15 PM
I know I am dead against it but not going to have to beg again for the likes of Albion and blues tickets so will join next season’s scheme - the links b en taken down though
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You can have my ticket for any league games we play at Blose and Albion next season, can't say fairer than that.
Title: Re: Away Scheme 2019/2020
Post by: wittonwarrior on June 05, 2019, 12:56:47 PM
I know I am dead against it but not going to have to beg again for the likes of Albion and blues tickets so will join next season’s scheme - the links b en taken down though
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You can have my ticket for any league games we play at Blose and Albion next season, can't say fairer than that.
Chris we might get one of them in the cups be careful what you are offering.
Title: Re: Away Scheme 2019/2020
Post by: cdbearsfan on June 06, 2019, 11:58:48 AM
I did say league games! 😅
Title: Re: Away Scheme 2019/2020
Post by: Dominic22 on June 20, 2019, 04:45:35 PM
I have been a member of the away scheme for many years so will be interested in what is done this year.  Here is an interesting article in relation to what they call a "paywall"  with interestingly only us and Norwich having this system in premier league if we carry it on.

http://www.fsf.org.uk/blog/view/dont-swallow-the-cap-norwich-city-scheme?fbclid=IwAR2-aYsDxTQInwyFCcusOKzp5tiO-2x55FAAvO0dLXjih0cyerG-ISj0Id4

I have sent this link to the ticket office as I would hope they will consider this information in any changes that are made.
Title: Re: Away Scheme 2019/2020
Post by: wittonwarrior on June 24, 2019, 10:10:56 PM
Think Villa  are going to be very careful with the away scheme if one continues this year.  Already mini chaos with Walsall and Shrews tickets.

From a club's point of view it is easier to have a scheme.  From supporters  corner there is no need and let the fans who go to most games  get the tickets. 
Title: Re: Away Scheme 2019/2020
Post by: Lastfootstamper on June 24, 2019, 10:22:02 PM
I agree, ww. Rolling criteria, irrespective of season, would sort it.
20 consecutive aways? First dibs.
15/20, hang on a couple of days.
10/20, wait a bit, you'll get one.
And so on. Supporting your team away ritually is different to having a season ticket at home, it shouldn't have arbitrary cut-offs a few weeks into a given season.
Title: Re: Away Scheme 2019/2020
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 15, 2019, 06:20:28 PM
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“The club can now confirm plans for our away ticket sales for the upcoming 2019/20 season.

“After consulting extensively with supporters – and also following a benchmarking process with other clubs – we’ve made some changes.

“Under new procedures, in order to be fair, transparent and reward loyalty, away ticket criteria will be based on attendance at previous away games from the 2018/19 season as we also withdraw our away season ticket scheme.

“The new sales criteria will start at season ticket holders who attended 18+ away games last season all the way through to general sale, with 15+, 12+, 9+, Season Ticket Holders and Claret/Cub members in between.

“The first game of the season – away at Tottenham Hotspur – will go on sale next Thursday from 5pm online, subject to allocation and pricing being confirmed in the coming days by the host club.

“We appreciate that while this new policy rewards loyalty, it means that it also potentially makes it difficult for a lot of eager fans to attend big Premier League matches on the road.

“Therefore, 25 pairs of away tickets for each top-flight game will be made available on Pride Rewards for supporters via a Prize Draw, starting with the clash against Mauricio Pochettino’s Spurs. Winners of the Prize Draw will then have the opportunity to purchase a pair of tickets.

“We understand that some fans will be disappointed there is no away season ticket scheme for this season but we believe this to be the fairest way to allocate away tickets to supporters who wish to follow us on the road.”
Title: Re: Away Scheme 2019/2020
Post by: Ads on July 15, 2019, 06:56:19 PM
Does this mean no guarantee for an away ticket to Bournemouth?
Title: Re: Away Scheme 2019/2020
Post by: wittonwarrior on July 16, 2019, 04:06:21 AM
Ads and everyone, from experience apart from a local derby if you want a ticket for a game you will always by hook or crook obtain one.  But do take the point about not connecting to your purchase history which is annoying.
Title: Re: Away Scheme 2019/2020
Post by: sid1964 on July 16, 2019, 07:21:49 AM
I think that for the away games season ticket holders who attended 18+ away games should get priority (and I mean attended) not passed on their reference number to all and sundry because they could not attend, they could check this by bank details etc... to see who paid for the tickets?

Then it should go to season ticket holders, otherwise all you are having is the same fans at every away game, and not giving other supporters the opportunity to attend.

With the new scheme the chances of a season ticket holder who attended a few away games last season getting an away ticket is highly unlikely (i have been a season ticket holder for 30 years, so why should my loyalty not be rewarded???, should I always get first chance at any remaining tickets ?), but I am off to Leipzeig.

Title: Re: Away Scheme 2019/2020
Post by: wittonwarrior on July 16, 2019, 08:45:44 AM
Sorry but to have bought into a jump a queue scheme gives  no justification as  to why the majority on the scheme should have priority over me or many others who attended  almost all aways last season. 
Title: Re: Away Scheme 2019/2020
Post by: exiled on the wirral! on July 18, 2019, 02:52:54 PM
Looks like my away days this season will consist of Salford Bury and Tranmere. ..and I'm a season ticket holder😁
Title: Re: Away Scheme 2019/2020
Post by: BlackCountryVilla on July 18, 2019, 07:51:46 PM
Looks like my away days are over too! I think I have 7 or 8 aways last season. I have had my season ticket for over 30 years and I have no more chance than someone who has just had their first season ticket.
I realise that it is impossible to please everyone but I have to say that I am a bit annoyed by it!
When the club says 18+ away games last season that doesn't mean they actually attended all the games or does it? Does that include people who passed the reference on to someone else in order to maintain thier booking history?
I guess most people, myself included, have begged a reference in the past but the trouble is that makes it impossible for anyone else to build up a booking history for themselves.
Title: Re: Away Scheme 2019/2020
Post by: itmustbe_it is! on July 19, 2019, 10:16:35 PM
Anybody know for sure if the West Brom away playoff counts in booking history?
I've got  14 without that and 15 with , it says league games so not optimistic but seem to remember that the playoff games counted as booking history for Wembley tickets, could be wrong though
Title: Re: Away Scheme 2019/2020
Post by: Scratchins on July 20, 2019, 07:57:04 AM
Anybody know for sure if the West Brom away playoff counts in booking history?
I've got  14 without that and 15 with , it says league games so not optimistic but seem to remember that the playoff games counted as booking history for Wembley tickets, could be wrong though
I'm pretty certain that I have seen that play off semis and final don't count but I can't find the reference.
Title: Re: Away Scheme 2019/2020
Post by: itmustbe_it is! on August 21, 2019, 01:20:10 PM
Anybody know if /when the criteria change from last years history to this year's for eligibility bands?
Title: Re: Away Scheme 2019/2020
Post by: wittonwarrior on August 21, 2019, 01:34:19 PM
Looks like my away days are over too! I think I have 7 or 8 aways last season. I have had my season ticket for over 30 years and I have no more chance than someone who has just had their first season ticket.
I realise that it is impossible to please everyone but I have to say that I am a bit annoyed by it!
When the club says 18+ away games last season that doesn't mean they actually attended all the games or does it? Does that include people who passed the reference on to someone else in order to maintain thier booking history?
I guess most people, myself included, have begged a reference in the past but the trouble is that makes it impossible for anyone else to build up a booking history for themselves.

The Club were in denial for quite some time about the resale of away tickets.  It still happens but on a much diminished fashion. It will take a season to finally sort out the situation  and the upbeat of promotion dumbing down.  I've always thought if you really want  a ticket your get one.  At the worst case scenario I got a ticket for West Brom away in the home end
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