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Title: Tyrone Mings - signed permanently and confirmed as even more awesome
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 31, 2019, 11:20:38 AM
As this one looks almost there, he gets his own thread.
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Post by: darren woolley on January 31, 2019, 11:24:38 AM
Welcome to Aston Villa Tyrone.
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Post by: Damo70 on January 31, 2019, 11:25:40 AM
He is the type of player we need in a position we need to strengthen and should certainly be good enough in this league.
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Post by: Diablo on January 31, 2019, 11:26:49 AM
I bet Chester will be hopping around his front room in joy (if this is confirmed). Welcome Tyrone please be good and be a model professional.
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Post by: Dr Butler on January 31, 2019, 11:28:18 AM
Mings the Merciless....welcome to the Villa :)


UTV
The Doc
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Post by: paul_e on January 31, 2019, 11:28:49 AM
I bet Chester will be hopping around his front room in joy (if this is confirmed). Welcome Tyrone please be good and be a model professional.

Given how limited his movement has been for the last month or so I hope he isn't hopping around anywhere. A fistpump and  then sit down and rest for a few weeks.
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Post by: footyskillz on January 31, 2019, 11:35:16 AM
Wild mings !

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Post by: Diablo on January 31, 2019, 11:37:09 AM
I bet Chester will be hopping around his front room in joy (if this is confirmed). Welcome Tyrone please be good and be a model professional.

Given how limited his movement has been for the last month or so I hope he isn't hopping around anywhere. A fistpump and  then sit down and rest for a few weeks.
Haha! That would definitely be the more sensible approach. You've made me think of footballer's injuring themselves at home now and reminded me of Vassell's DIY toe op.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings
Post by: Dave P on January 31, 2019, 11:37:39 AM
Appears to have been signed as a centre back and not a left back. Chester does need a few weeks out but we still need a left back imo.
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Post by: MalcolmP on January 31, 2019, 11:39:11 AM
He is the type of player we need in a position we need to strengthen and should certainly be good enough in this league.

I think only 20 appearances in 4 years at Bournemouth and only 87 career appearances in 7 years says otherwise. We need players who can hit the ground running. How can he quickly become match fit after those stats? Giving one of our youngsters a chance would be much better
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Post by: Risso on January 31, 2019, 11:40:14 AM
I hope he signs soon, I'm Bored of the Mings saga.

The defence should be a lot stronger now, with our new defender and keeper.  On the Mings of Lovre.
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Post by: manic-road on January 31, 2019, 11:40:34 AM
Always good to get Ming In.
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Post by: lovejoy on January 31, 2019, 11:41:46 AM
Son of Adie Mings (Gloucester city)

Chant - Adie Mings but he can't help it.
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Post by: lovejoy on January 31, 2019, 11:42:16 AM
Start of a dynasty?
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Post by: brontebilly on January 31, 2019, 12:03:27 PM
Appears to have been signed as a centre back and not a left back. Chester does need a few weeks out but we still need a left back imo.

Is the guy from Wolves being written off already? Not sure why we have brought in two left sided centre backs/left backs in the space of a couple of weeks, both injury prone with previous little football played in last 2-3 seasons. It's like Bruce with the right backs all over again !
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Post by: JUAN PABLO on January 31, 2019, 12:10:22 PM
Lets hope hes fit
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Post by: Fred Crump on January 31, 2019, 12:11:15 PM
I hope he signs soon, I'm Bored of the Mings saga.

The defence should be a lot stronger now, with our new defender and keeper.  On the Mings of Lovre.

I hope he's better than the new keeper appears to be.
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Post by: rougegorge on January 31, 2019, 12:29:47 PM
Hope this comes off.

I think he showed great promise at Ipswich and a good athlete, even though someone I know did mention 'occasionally error-prone', and he was obviously blighted by a serious injury as well.

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Post by: manic-road on January 31, 2019, 12:37:49 PM
Hope this comes off.

I think he showed great promise at Ipswich and a good athlete, even though someone I know did mention 'occasionally error-prone', and he was obviously blighted by a serious injury as well.



Sounds a bit like Micah Richards then, just change Ipswich for Man City.
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Post by: Singapore Villa on January 31, 2019, 12:49:30 PM
Start of a dynasty?

Nicely done.....
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Post by: Ads on January 31, 2019, 12:54:27 PM
Hope this comes off.

I think he showed great promise at Ipswich and a good athlete, even though someone I know did mention 'occasionally error-prone', and he was obviously blighted by a serious injury as well.



Sounds a bit like Micah Richards then, just change Ipswich for Man City.

Or Martin Laursen. As it is possible to come back from injury.
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Post by: Chico Hamilton III on January 31, 2019, 01:20:35 PM
I hope he signs soon, I'm Bored of the Mings saga.

The defence should be a lot stronger now, with our new defender and keeper.  On the Mings of Lovre.

Tyroneís game should improve under Smith.

Mings can only get better
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings
Post by: SheffieldVillain on January 31, 2019, 01:31:58 PM
Appears to have been signed as a centre back and not a left back. Chester does need a few weeks out but we still need a left back imo.

Is the guy from Wolves being written off already? Not sure why we have brought in two left sided centre backs/left backs in the space of a couple of weeks, both injury prone with previous little football played in last 2-3 seasons. It's like Bruce with the right backs all over again !

Because before we had 0 left sided centre backs and 1 left back who's shit? 
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings
Post by: Villa Lew on January 31, 2019, 01:39:38 PM
Sky are saying he's completed the medical.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings
Post by: Clark W Griswold on January 31, 2019, 01:44:00 PM
True, but they haven't given the outcome!
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Post by: olaftab on January 31, 2019, 01:59:16 PM
Welcome Tyrone. Yes Bmouth are Premier League but this is a Premier Club and you will see the difference.
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Post by: mike on January 31, 2019, 02:01:46 PM
Sky are saying he's completed the medical.

I hope they didn't use the bloke - or woman - who did Micah.
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Post by: The Edge on January 31, 2019, 02:07:16 PM
Hope this comes off.

I think he showed great promise at Ipswich and a good athlete, even though someone I know did mention 'occasionally error-prone', and he was obviously blighted by a serious injury as well.



Sounds a bit like Micah Richards then, just change Ipswich for Man City.

Or Martin Laursen. As it is possible to come back from injury.
Well said. I can't believe how many people on here seem intent on looking for the negatives in everything the club tries to do. Anyway, welcome Tyrone your a welcome addition to our squad. UTV.
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Post by: berneboy on January 31, 2019, 02:17:08 PM
It's official now. Just tweeted by avfc
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 31, 2019, 02:20:34 PM
https://twitter.com/avfcofficial/status/1090976881812406272?s=12
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - signed
Post by: Fred Crump on January 31, 2019, 02:23:49 PM
Great stuff ! Welcome and good luck Tyrone
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Post by: brian green on January 31, 2019, 02:28:14 PM
I will reserve judgement until we find out how fit he is to solve our immediate problems.
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Post by: andyh on January 31, 2019, 02:32:59 PM
Dean said he is fit and will be in contention for Saturday
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Post by: brian green on January 31, 2019, 02:39:28 PM
I hope he is fully fit.  Kortney Hause came as a very nasty shock.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings
Post by: johnny from donny on January 31, 2019, 02:42:40 PM
Brought in as a centre back? Does that mean we're going to sign a left back?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: hilts_coolerking on January 31, 2019, 02:45:30 PM
Welcome Tyrone.  Help, please.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on January 31, 2019, 02:56:16 PM


Disturbing to hear Smith say he's been brought in as a centre back first and foremost

Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Nelson Lodge on January 31, 2019, 02:58:52 PM
Smith quoted in the local rag that he intends to play Mings at left centre back.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Three Spires Villa on January 31, 2019, 03:15:17 PM
Good luck to you
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Clark W Griswold on January 31, 2019, 03:35:48 PM
At least hes smiling.

Welcome Ty, show no mercy.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: pooligan on January 31, 2019, 03:36:08 PM
19 games in 4 seasons worries me to be honest.We have more than enough injury prone players already.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: brian green on January 31, 2019, 03:42:11 PM
Taking a chance on an injury prone player on loan for half a season.  I suppose that us where we are in the pecking order these days.
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Post by: dave shelley on January 31, 2019, 03:46:41 PM
Welcome Tyrone hope you've got plenty of power!
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Post by: PaulWinch again on January 31, 2019, 03:49:41 PM
Welcome Tyrone, be good.
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Post by: sid1964 on January 31, 2019, 03:54:25 PM
Maybe we are going to play 3 centre backs and then have 2 wing backs
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on January 31, 2019, 04:02:29 PM
Welcome, Tyrone, to the best club you will ever play for!
Do well, please.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: mallo on January 31, 2019, 04:08:05 PM
Welcome Tyrone, please be decent. Don't pay any attention to the lad Richards.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Tuscans on January 31, 2019, 04:11:07 PM
Smith quoted in the local rag that he intends to play Mings at left centre back.
Yeah just said in his interview that Terry was one reason he joined and he can help him in the same position he want's to establish himself in here. Wonder when Hause has a few more behind closed door games he might go in at left back eventually.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: cdbullyweefan on January 31, 2019, 04:25:35 PM
Welcome Mings the Merciless.
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Post by: Mister E on January 31, 2019, 04:40:08 PM
Is it loan or perm?
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Post by: kieron on January 31, 2019, 04:43:47 PM
Well I'll happily admit that I didn't expect an interview quite like this one. What a thoroughly level-headed chap, superb.

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Post by: Chinchilla Bathhouse on January 31, 2019, 04:44:05 PM
More dreads than a perm I'd say.
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Post by: FrankyH on January 31, 2019, 05:02:28 PM
Well I'll happily admit that I didn't expect an interview quite like this one. What a thoroughly level-headed chap, superb.



Blimey , I haven't seen him play and I already love him.Sounds like he would make a great Captain one day.Lets hope it's a great move for us and him.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: West Derby Villan on January 31, 2019, 05:06:51 PM
Bloody hell what an intelligent and humble man he seems. Welcome Tyrone, UTV
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Post by: Fred Crump on January 31, 2019, 05:25:20 PM
What an impressive guy. If he can play the same way as he talks , weíve got a class act on our hands. Looking forward to seeing him play on Saturday
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Post by: brian green on January 31, 2019, 05:33:00 PM
It was great to hear DS comment favourably about character references.  Fingers crossed that the days are over of bringing in players with attitudinal problems eg Ireland, Richards, NZogbia.  It has been a long time coming.
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Post by: footyskillz on January 31, 2019, 06:00:39 PM
Well I'll happily admit that I didn't expect an interview quite like this one. What a thoroughly level-headed chap, superb.



You see the YouTube  where he appears to have stamped on Ibrahimovic head

Also the interview after wards if it's around where he outright was not forthcoming in what happened !

But I much prefer this video of course
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: footyskillz on January 31, 2019, 06:04:40 PM
Smith quoted in the local rag that he intends to play Mings at left centre back.
Yeah just said in his interview that Terry was one reason he joined and he can help him in the same position he want's to establish himself in here. Wonder when Hause has a few more behind closed door games he might go in at left back eventually.

Hopefully JT improves as a coach .
Don't forget some say that we can't assume JT  has anything to do with our current shoddily playing defence .

(I think that view is because it's been awful ! JT can only be accountable for a successful defence so can't be his remit! But it's not been totally made clear )

Good to see our ambiguous coach having a positive influence in mings signing though

Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Diablo on January 31, 2019, 06:12:53 PM
Having played with and knowing Elphick before should hopefully help Tyrone settle in quickly. Have we an option to buy when the loan ends?
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Post by: Newby on January 31, 2019, 06:15:45 PM
Welcome Minger.
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Post by: Dazvillain on January 31, 2019, 06:37:46 PM
Welcome Tyrone, the second cherry 🍒 in the back line. Stay fit and show us your commitment weíre all rooting for you
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Post by: paul_e on January 31, 2019, 07:18:44 PM
Smith quoted in the local rag that he intends to play Mings at left centre back.
Yeah just said in his interview that Terry was one reason he joined and he can help him in the same position he want's to establish himself in here. Wonder when Hause has a few more behind closed door games he might go in at left back eventually.

Hopefully JT improves as a coach .
Don't forget some say that we can't assume JT  has anything to do with our current shoddily playing defence .

(I think that view is because it's been awful ! JT can only be accountable for a successful defence so can't be his remit! But it's not been totally made clear )

Good to see our ambiguous coach having a positive influence in mings signing though



Literally no one has said that, a strawman argument that everyone would be praising JT if we were defending well is an utterly pointless one, the defence isn't good, so no one is giving him credit and no one is going to say they would be if the defence was good so it's a nothing point. All we know is that JT is part of the coaching team and that the team, collectively, has been unable to get the defence working in much the same way that Bruce was unable to. You can blame 2 separate groups of coaches or you can blame the recruitment policy that saw us with almost no options in defence. Now we have a couple of extra centre backs (and maybe more) we can hope to see improvements over the next 4-5 games. If that doesn't happen then it' fair to start looking at the coaching team, but collectively.
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Post by: sickbeggar on January 31, 2019, 07:26:51 PM
well i guess we'll see. Hopefully he's up to the rough and tumble after his injury. welcome Tyrone
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Post by: Risso on January 31, 2019, 09:54:10 PM
17 games in 4 years.  Oh my god, we never learn.
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Post by: Pat McMahon on January 31, 2019, 10:42:20 PM
17 games in 4 years.  Oh my god, we never learn.

Just read that and had the same reaction. Hopefully the medical was thorough and he is fit, otherwise he will make Micah Richards look like Charlie Aitken.
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Post by: BC Villain on January 31, 2019, 11:25:43 PM
Well I'll happily admit that I didn't expect an interview quite like this one. What a thoroughly level-headed chap, superb.



Very impressive interview.  Seems a level headed lad.  Maybe captain material if he sticks around after this season?
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Post by: Sexual Ealing on February 01, 2019, 12:19:36 AM
There's a loucheness to him that I hadn't anticipated.
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Post by: Clampy on February 01, 2019, 12:20:44 AM
Another one I'm not that knowledgeable about but hope he does well.
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Post by: Ads on February 01, 2019, 12:22:15 AM
Let's hope he can deal with that most devilish of tactics...the dreaded long, straight, ball.
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Post by: ROBBO on February 01, 2019, 01:20:27 AM
He's very quick which will be an asset I just hope the medical was thorough.
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Post by: footyskillz on February 01, 2019, 09:09:20 AM
Smith quoted in the local rag that he intends to play Mings at left centre back.
Yeah just said in his interview that Terry was one reason he joined and he can help him in the same position he want's to establish himself in here. Wonder when Hause has a few more behind closed door games he might go in at left back eventually.

Hopefully JT improves as a coach .
Don't forget some say that we can't assume JT  has anything to do with our current shoddily playing defence .

(I think that view is because it's been awful ! JT can only be accountable for a successful defence so can't be his remit! But it's not been totally made clear )

Good to see our ambiguous coach having a positive influence in mings signing though



Literally no one has said that, a strawman argument that everyone would be praising JT if we were defending well is an utterly pointless one, the defence isn't good, so no one is giving him credit and no one is going to say they would be if the defence was good so it's a nothing point. All we know is that JT is part of the coaching team and that the team, collectively, has been unable to get the defence working in much the same way that Bruce was unable to. You can blame 2 separate groups of coaches or you can blame the recruitment policy that saw us with almost no options in defence. Now we have a couple of extra centre backs (and maybe more) we can hope to see improvements over the next 4-5 games. If that doesn't happen then it' fair to start looking at the coaching team, but collectively.

No one ?? well I said it and also I talking about anyone not just what's on here.

I can also look at the coaching team ,individuals and in any ways.
I can seek to question and put out why the coaching isn't working well right now and in this instance JT coaching.

It's a valid consideration and not attempt at any argument to say  credit could conceivably be given to JT if the defence was showing signs of being solid.

So similarly he can be questionned in his current failings as a coach in organising the defence .

What's your main reason for not challenging Terry for some (maybe not all) accountability for the shoddy defence?
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Post by: chrisw1 on February 01, 2019, 09:55:40 AM
What a likeable bloke.  Really hope he can stay fit.
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Post by: The Charmer on February 01, 2019, 10:31:14 AM
Very good interview.

I really hope he does well and he kicks-on and proves to be one of the players we've been searching for.

I've like him since he, accidentally, stood on Costa's head in the game against Chelsea.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Ads on February 01, 2019, 12:06:17 PM
Maybe left sided centre half for a few games while Hause gets fit?

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Post by: Risso on February 01, 2019, 01:16:58 PM
Maybe left sided centre half for a few games while Hause gets fit?



He's only played about 50 minutes of football himself for most of December and none at all in January, so would imagine he's not exactly match fit himself.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Chris Smith on February 01, 2019, 02:28:13 PM
Maybe left sided centre half for a few games while Hause gets fit?



That would be my guess, give Chester a chance to recover.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: footyskillz on February 01, 2019, 02:50:27 PM
As long as he's fit which Dean Smith says he is then I think he be very capable .

Hopefully coping well against the attackers coming up as have to face some of the best strikers in league .

Maupay, Sharp and Gayle, after Saturday.

Then stoke , derby, forest, Middlesboro.

How many clean sheets we getting there?!
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Post by: paul_e on February 01, 2019, 03:21:54 PM
Smith quoted in the local rag that he intends to play Mings at left centre back.
Yeah just said in his interview that Terry was one reason he joined and he can help him in the same position he want's to establish himself in here. Wonder when Hause has a few more behind closed door games he might go in at left back eventually.

Hopefully JT improves as a coach .
Don't forget some say that we can't assume JT  has anything to do with our current shoddily playing defence .

(I think that view is because it's been awful ! JT can only be accountable for a successful defence so can't be his remit! But it's not been totally made clear )

Good to see our ambiguous coach having a positive influence in mings signing though



Literally no one has said that, a strawman argument that everyone would be praising JT if we were defending well is an utterly pointless one, the defence isn't good, so no one is giving him credit and no one is going to say they would be if the defence was good so it's a nothing point. All we know is that JT is part of the coaching team and that the team, collectively, has been unable to get the defence working in much the same way that Bruce was unable to. You can blame 2 separate groups of coaches or you can blame the recruitment policy that saw us with almost no options in defence. Now we have a couple of extra centre backs (and maybe more) we can hope to see improvements over the next 4-5 games. If that doesn't happen then it' fair to start looking at the coaching team, but collectively.

No one ?? well I said it and also I talking about anyone not just what's on here.

I can also look at the coaching team ,individuals and in any ways.
I can seek to question and put out why the coaching isn't working well right now and in this instance JT coaching.

It's a valid consideration and not attempt at any argument to say  credit could conceivably be given to JT if the defence was showing signs of being solid.

So similarly he can be questionned in his current failings as a coach in organising the defence .

What's your main reason for not challenging Terry for some (maybe not all) accountability for the shoddy defence?

The main reasons are because it's both unfair (it's only an assumption that JT is responsible for the defence, he could easily be there as a skills coach as he had a great reputation as a player for his work ethic in maintaining his basic skills) and doesn't really serve any purpose. The defence was shit before he arrived, the defence is still shit and we've just spent a transfer window recalling a defender and a goalkeeper and bringing in 3 new players back there (and a 4th for the summer), I think there's much more value now to looking at how we can line up and focusing on the improvements we want to see. If we're still in a mess in 2-3 months then questioning the coaching, and JT as part of that, starts to make sense but we all know that the defence was poor so lets see if the changes to add depth and balance tto the squad back there have been effective.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: footyskillz on February 01, 2019, 06:34:09 PM
Ok.

Well  it would just be very nice to have some defence improvement sooner  than later .
I can certainly take on board being a bit more patient and the defenders themselves haven't been amazing .

But there have been some great performance defensive wise too , but far too little to mention.

I feel there could just be a more concern in outscoring and defence is a little neglected
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on February 02, 2019, 11:05:36 AM
I've been led to believe that this deal has been part funded by a commercial sponsor - an energy drink company
RED Bull gives you Mings
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Post by: Sexual Ealing on February 02, 2019, 11:21:10 AM
It certainly does.
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Post by: auntiesledd on February 02, 2019, 12:59:35 PM
I've just seen the official interview with Tyrone on YouTube - & he comes across extremely well. I hope the lad can thrive now he'll shirley get some first team football, so fingers crossed eh? I remember seeing him play at LB when he was at Ipswich: and he was a class act. Presumably he'll be playing as a central defender while Chester recovers, so resuming a successful partnership with Mad Tom would be greatly appreciated. UTV!
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: frank black on February 02, 2019, 04:56:22 PM
Looks assured
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Post by: PaulWinch again on February 02, 2019, 05:02:25 PM
Glad he did well.
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Post by: mr underhill on February 02, 2019, 05:05:12 PM
but a shame we still look total shite overall
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Post by: thick_mike on February 02, 2019, 05:12:00 PM
Good debut Tyrone 👍
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Post by: Drummond on February 02, 2019, 05:14:34 PM
but a shame we still look total shite overall

I swear people try to find a negative angle to everything.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Ads on February 02, 2019, 05:39:23 PM
Excellent. He's a proper defender. Thumbs up to Elphick too.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 02, 2019, 05:41:24 PM
Excellent. He's a proper defender. Thumbs up to Elphick too.

Both looked very decent together. A lot more balance and they should get better over time.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Uknowthescore on February 02, 2019, 05:43:41 PM
When Chesterís fit it will be Chester and mings as our main back 2
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: walsall villain on February 02, 2019, 05:46:16 PM
As long as he's fit which Dean Smith says he is then I think he be very capable .

Hopefully coping well against the attackers coming up as have to face some of the best strikers in league .

Maupay, Sharp and Gayle, after Saturday.

Then stoke , derby, forest, Middlesboro.

How many clean sheets we getting there?!
No worries there, itís the teams at the bottom we look awful against.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Villafirst on February 02, 2019, 10:14:46 PM
Excellent. He's a proper defender. Thumbs up to Elphick too.

Both looked very decent together. A lot more balance and they should get better over time.

To think Bruce could easily have had both Elphick & Mings in his defence in August. Complete idiot!
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Tayls_7 on February 02, 2019, 10:21:23 PM
Excellent. He's a proper defender. Thumbs up to Elphick too.

Both looked very decent together. A lot more balance and they should get better over time.

To think Bruce could easily have had both Elphick & Mings in his defence in August. Complete idiot!

He's not a complete idiot.  He's still working at it.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: frank black on February 02, 2019, 10:23:51 PM
Heís mashed Oliveiras face, very nasty.

Twitter attempting to get him a lifetime football ban.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: frank black on February 02, 2019, 10:28:03 PM

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Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Sexual Ealing on February 02, 2019, 10:29:51 PM
And yet, he makes quite the saucy interviewee.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: footyskillz on February 02, 2019, 10:35:34 PM
I said to be wary of Mings after what he did to zlatan Ibrahimovic .

I don't like this .
At least he apologized this time and I really think he needs to be addressed about where he lands and connects with oppontes on players heads and faces.

The one thing mings was known for in his premier league by my memory was his rough up of Ibrahimovic

I really don't like this sort of attitude it's not nice

Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Ads on February 02, 2019, 10:37:09 PM
Oh bore off for fucks sake. It's an accident in a contact sport where players have blades and studs.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Sexual Ealing on February 02, 2019, 10:38:46 PM
I said to be wary of Mings after what he did to zlatan Ibrahimovic .

I don't like this .
At least he apologized this time and I really think he needs to be addressed about where he lands and connects with oppontes on players heads and faces.

The one thing mings was known for in his premier league by my memory was his rough up of Ibrahimovic

I really don't like this sort of attitude it's not nice



It's not nice, but I don't think he meant it and he does convey the impression that he wouldn't call you again, even if you were capable of reaching the phone.

And when I say 'you', I mean 'one'. If there's a Villa fan on Earth who could give Mings the runaround, it's you footy! x
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: footyskillz on February 02, 2019, 10:41:46 PM
Well I'll happily admit that I didn't expect an interview quite like this one. What a thoroughly level-headed chap, superb.



You see the YouTube  where he appears to have stamped on Ibrahimovic head

Also the interview after wards if it's around where he outright was not forthcoming in what happened !

But I much prefer this video of course


As I said I had feared about Mings zealous approach and people shouldn't be asking for these sort of characters or style of players to rough up opposition.

Grealish struggles with injury because of maltreatment I wonder what will happen to him I training if this brute is getting over excited.

As I say at least he apologized.
With zlatan Ibrahimovic he denied it
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Ads on February 02, 2019, 10:44:09 PM
What are you on about?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: footyskillz on February 02, 2019, 10:48:21 PM
Well seeing that photo was particularly distressing

Also i hope he channels his agression in future.
I imagine he was over excited and is obviously to me he's a physical character

I just remember what he did to Zlatan Ibrahimovic and the next thing  I log in and find something nasty happened.

I get this is deemed an accident and he's apologized

I let it rest 
Just a shocking image ok
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: footyskillz on February 02, 2019, 10:51:05 PM
I said to be wary of Mings after what he did to zlatan Ibrahimovic .

I don't like this .
At least he apologized this time and I really think he needs to be addressed about where he lands and connects with oppontes on players heads and faces.

The one thing mings was known for in his premier league by my memory was his rough up of Ibrahimovic

I really don't like this sort of attitude it's not nice



It's not nice, but I don't think he meant it and he does convey the impression that he wouldn't call you again, even if you were capable of reaching the phone.

And when I say 'you', I mean 'one'. If there's a Villa fan on Earth who could give Mings the runaround, it's you footy! x
Ok I hear you thanks

I don't know why Ads is making nasty comments at me.
But I let it rest I gave my views.

And I accept that mings apologize and that what he did to zlatan is just a separate incident and hopefully not a common occurrence.

I also accept some are more ok with rough stuff that me.
But I didn't like that image

Ok I leave it now.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Ads on February 02, 2019, 10:55:12 PM
As you're being a huge Maud Flanders. Channel his aggression, he accidentally stepped on a player who'd fallen over. You're making out like he's deliberately lamped him.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: QuintonVilla on February 02, 2019, 10:57:39 PM
I think it was an accident but I've got a feeling he will get a ban for it.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: footyskillz on February 02, 2019, 11:00:11 PM
Is really irresponsible to put up that image and I've reported it.

In the rules should be appreciated what is posted .
This is not a UFC site . And images like that are inappropriate and can cause distress

Please bear in mind what you're posting and other people as it saying in the forum rules.


If someone wanted to post it they should perhaps link it or give advanced warning .
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Flamingo Lane on February 02, 2019, 11:13:58 PM
From where I was, in the stand opposite to where the Villa fans were, it looked like an accident, and Mings was the first to call a stop to play.

Generally, I thought Mings was excellent today.  I hope he stays fit.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Chinchilla Bathhouse on February 02, 2019, 11:18:29 PM
It was a total accident, Mings went to kick a waist-high ball, their man stooped to head it. I don't think it was even given as a foul.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: andyh on February 02, 2019, 11:19:23 PM
To me it looks like a nasty gash on the guys head and the blood from that gash has spread to other parts of his face making it look much worse than it is. Itís not multiple injuries.

It happens, itís just an unfortunate incident.

The bloke hasnít been hacked with a machete.


Edit. I have just seen a blow up of the picture and he is cut on his nose as well.
It looks awful and I hope he recovers quickly.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Smoke on February 03, 2019, 12:33:10 AM
It was a total accident, Mings went to kick a waist-high ball, their man stooped to head it. I don't think it was even given as a foul.

Oliviera fouled mings and then fell over causing mings to fall too, Oliviera's face is then right where mings' foot was about to land. If Mings meant to do then he's executed the manoeuvre perfectly because it doesn't look deliberate to me.

The slow mo makes it look worse. In real time I didn't even notice it

Also mings stopped immediately to check on him the ref didn't care less untill mings' reaction.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: ROBBO on February 03, 2019, 04:22:17 AM
At least it was a proper injury not like in the Leeds Norwich game where a player is brushed by an opponents arm and collapses as though he has been hit by a truck, three times it happened, if I want to see acting I go to the theatre.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Axl Rose on February 03, 2019, 04:40:25 AM
Is really irresponsible to put up that image and I've reported it.

In the rules should be appreciated what is posted .
This is not a UFC site . And images like that are inappropriate and can cause distress

Please bear in mind what you're posting and other people as it saying in the forum rules.


If someone wanted to post it they should perhaps link it or give advanced warning .


Are you alright, footy?

Reporting the image? Oh dear.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Mister E on February 03, 2019, 07:20:25 AM
Oh bore off for fucks sake. It's an accident in a contact sport where players have blades and studs.
Yep, these things happen. We shouldnít condone them but it is a fast and physical game.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: frank black on February 03, 2019, 08:21:51 AM
Is really irresponsible to put up that image and I've reported it.

In the rules should be appreciated what is posted .
This is not a UFC site . And images like that are inappropriate and can cause distress

Please bear in mind what you're posting and other people as it saying in the forum rules.


If someone wanted to post it they should perhaps link it or give advanced warning .


Are you alright, footy?

Reporting the image? Oh dear.

Could have just asked me, Iíve tidied up the image.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Dazvillain on February 03, 2019, 09:41:53 AM
Potential FA ban depending how they see it. Real shame If so based on how he settled so quickly . Having been banned when he injured zlatan thereís a high chance again Iíd say, accident or not
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Risso on February 03, 2019, 09:45:08 AM
I think he could be in a bit of trouble, looking back at the clip. Shame, as it was a good performance from him, but given that he has a bit of 'previous' I'm not sure the 'accidental' defence is going to help much.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Chinchilla Bathhouse on February 03, 2019, 09:46:38 AM
Surely they can't ban a player for a completely accidental collision that wasn't even a foul? I'd have thought there must be some intent. (I haven't seen a replay of it  mind...)
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: PeterWithe on February 03, 2019, 09:48:35 AM
I think it depends on if the referee saw the incident or not, as he didnít call a foul I think he might be in some bother.

Enjoy your rest Chester?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Legion on February 03, 2019, 09:50:09 AM
I responded to the duplicate image deletion request on the post-match thread.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: frank black on February 03, 2019, 09:50:51 AM
No chance of a ban, absolutely no chance. Just one of those unfortunate incidents.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Legion on February 03, 2019, 09:52:42 AM
I also think it was accidental. The slo-mo made it look worse. Link to it on the post-match thread.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Risso on February 03, 2019, 10:02:40 AM
They strongly argued it was accidental and not even a foul in the Ibrahimovitch incident, and he still copped for a 5 game ban.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: cdbullyweefan on February 03, 2019, 10:21:10 AM
Yes, but Reading aren't Manchester United. He'll be fine.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: mr underhill on February 03, 2019, 10:21:27 AM
It looked a bit Frank Castle to me.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: frank black on February 03, 2019, 10:21:48 AM
They strongly argued it was accidental and not even a foul in the Ibrahimovitch incident, and he still copped for a 5 game ban.

They did but it looked more deliberate and was ďaftersĒ from an earlier incident. This one was an accident everyone on the pitch new it and reacted naturally
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: adrenachrome on February 03, 2019, 10:34:48 AM
The Sportsman (https://www.thesportsman.com/articles/aston-villa-star-apologies-after-stamp-leaves-reading-forward-with-gruesome-facial-injury)

Quote
Aston Villa Star Apologies After 'Stamp' Leaves Reading Forward With Gruesome Facial Injury

Chris Knight
  - 
08:52, 03 Feb 2019


Tyrone Mings made his first start for Aston Villa after signing on loan from Bournemouth and the defender certainly left his mark against Reading on Saturday!

The 25-year-old was immense during the course of a 0-0 draw as Villa kept a clean sheet for only the sixth time this season, although it was a result that did little for Villa's hopes of pushing for promotion from the Championship. Mings was superb but he caused a bit of controversy at the Madejski Stadium!

Mings was involved in a clash with Nelson Oliveira that resulted in the Reading forward suffering a nasty head injury and blood pouring down his face.

The pair stumbled and Mings seemed to tread on the face of Oliveira, completely by accident it must be said,  and it was an injury that ended the afternoon for the Royals striker as he was duly substituted.

Full credit to Mings as he immediately went to check on the player to ensure he was okay and he then reacted to the game on social media after the final whistle.


Mings tweeted:

    Absolutely loved wearing the claret and blue today and over the moon with the clean sheet! @AVFCOfficial.

    Feel awfully sorry to Oliveira, I hope he is ok.


An image of Oliveira's gruesome injury then surfaced after the game as the 27-year-old could be seen with a huge gash on his forehead and across his nose - you can see the image below but be warned that it is graphic.

It isn't the first time that Mings has been involved in a 'stamping' incident as he was banned for five games in March 2017 for allegedly stamping on Zlatan Ibrahimovic when Bournemouth played Manchester United.

You can see the latest incident involving Mings in the Twitter video at the end of this article.

Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Fred Crump on February 03, 2019, 10:45:02 AM
What gets me mad is headlines that sensationalise and bear no resemblance to the facts in the story - this one uses the word stamp which implies a deliberate act whereas the journo stresses in the article that it seemed to be completely accidental. But of course the damage is done then to the players reputation by the headline.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Fred Crump on February 03, 2019, 10:47:06 AM
What gets me mad is headlines that sensationalise and bear no resemblance to the facts in the story - this one uses the word stamp which implies a deliberate act whereas the journo stresses in the article that it seemed to be completely accidental. But of course the damage is done then to the playerís reputation by the headline.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Villafirst on February 03, 2019, 10:47:29 AM
Typical of Villa's luck this season! Potential ban keeping one of the better players out. With Jack, Tuanzebe out this is all we need. Hopefully it'll be judged accidental. But we've had zero luck this season.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: JUAN PABLO on February 03, 2019, 11:44:15 AM
He looked good yesterday , If he stays fit will be a massive player for us this season.

Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: SoccerHQ on February 03, 2019, 11:55:07 AM
Amazed at what's being made of yesterday. I know he has previous with Zlatan but I thought yesterday was just an accidential kick to the face? Not nice for the Reading player but it happens in every game.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Risso on February 03, 2019, 01:00:33 PM
Amazed at what's being made of yesterday. I know he has previous with Zlatan but I thought yesterday was just an accidential kick to the face? Not nice for the Reading player but it happens in every game.

Incidents like that don't happen in every game at all.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: john e on February 03, 2019, 01:02:04 PM
unfortunatly I agree with Risso I think he might go missing for a few games
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: LukeJames on February 03, 2019, 01:09:47 PM
Not a chance that he meant that. The Reading chaps face looks awful though and I do feel for him, having a 6'5 unit come down on your head like that is awful. If Mings is retrospectively punished then it will be down to whats happened in the past I think.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Richard E on February 03, 2019, 01:55:37 PM
Oliveira should be given a lengthy retrospective ban for his disgraceful headbutt of Mingsí boot.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Dante Lavelli on February 03, 2019, 02:29:04 PM
Personally I thought the Ibrahimovic one was an accident and this one looked pretty identical.  Hard to see how this incident will not be judged the same (except for the Man U impact obviously).
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 03, 2019, 02:32:20 PM
I think it was different because of the circumstances. Ibrahimovich was already on the floor and Mings could have avoided him. I just donít think the two while looking similar have the same intent. The one yesterday happened so quick that Iím giving him the benefit of the doubt.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: tim on February 03, 2019, 03:00:45 PM
Although I don't think he intended to injury Oliveira, I do think that he could have made more effort to avoid him. When he stumbles he seems to shorten his step which to me looks unnatural - I would have thought that if you're trying to avoid stepping on someone you'd lengthen your reach to try and step over, which in this instance he doesn't do. I'm not saying he deliberately went out of his way to injury him, but I certainly don't think he was concerned about where he put his foot.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Ads on February 03, 2019, 03:56:14 PM
Oliveira should be given a lengthy retrospective ban for his disgraceful headbutt of Mingsí boot.

Agreed. Reminded me of Klinsman's vicious assault on Bossie's knee.

If this was anything but an accident, the players would have kicked off. A simple accident, nothing more. No chance of a ban.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Legion on February 03, 2019, 03:59:00 PM
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Legion on February 03, 2019, 04:00:45 PM
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: sickbeggar on February 03, 2019, 04:16:23 PM
heh. Who can forget the Shearer incident where hundreds of so called knowledgeable football fans embarrassed themselves by showing complete ignorance of Law 12.3.1.1 -- But it's Neil Lennon".
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Ads on February 03, 2019, 04:18:23 PM
Guilty of not kicking Lennon twice.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Richard E on February 03, 2019, 04:20:56 PM
Alan Shearer was OK but I think Emily Blunt makes a better Mary Poppins.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: andyh on February 03, 2019, 04:29:44 PM
Of course I donít think Mings did it deliberately, but fucking hell, to have trod on two peoples faces is a bit crap.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 03, 2019, 04:35:25 PM
Alan Shearer was OK but I think Emily Blunt makes a better Mary Poppins.

Iím in love with Emily Blunt. I will grow an appropriate moustache and fight anyone, bare knuckles, Gangs of New York style if they say a bad word about her.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Ads on February 03, 2019, 04:47:33 PM
Of course I donít think Mings did it deliberately, but fucking hell, to have trod on two peoples faces is a bit crap.

And not one of them Paul Tait. Although somebody trod on his arm after the League Cup of rumours are to be believed.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: olaftab on February 03, 2019, 04:57:00 PM
heh. Who can forget the Shearer incident where hundreds of so called knowledgeable football fans embarrassed themselves by showing complete ignorance of Law 12.3.1.1 -- But it's Neil Lennon".
But Shearer did tell the Ref what he was going to do before he did it so it was allowed. Captain of England and all that.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: andyh on February 03, 2019, 05:09:55 PM
Of course I donít think Mings did it deliberately, but fucking hell, to have trod on two peoples faces is a bit crap.

And not one of them Paul Tait. Although somebody trod on his arm after the League Cup of rumours are to be believed.
Yeah, but in his case the face would have been acceptable.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: AVH87 on February 03, 2019, 05:15:32 PM
Sounds like he played well yesterday. But he should get a ban for that, no justice for Oliveira if not.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Legion on February 03, 2019, 05:22:54 PM
He should be banned for an accident?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Ads on February 03, 2019, 05:26:25 PM
We have a referee on here don't we?

Be interesting to hear what they think.

Looking at the laws, I don't think it meets Violent Conduct as it's the aftermath of an attempt to win the ball (actually it's a foul on Mings), where Violent Conduct must be an incident off the ball. I don't see how you can separate out the fact Oliveria falls and knocks Mings' standing left leg from the original attempt for the ball.

It doesn't meet any of the criteria for Serious Foul Play.

What would he be charged with?

It seems to me much is being made by the Twitterati over a split second incident slowed to several second gif's. He hope and plants his foot as he naturally tries to maintain balance, head lowering as it does when you fall to act as a counterweight.

He says it was accidental, it's very unfortunate that there's been a nasty injury. Nothing ultimately serious beyond a few stitches though.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: sickbeggar on February 03, 2019, 05:34:25 PM
No difference to Lukaku catching koscielny the other day. Just an accident.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: AVH87 on February 03, 2019, 05:35:24 PM
He should be banned for an accident?

We don't know if it was an accident. Even if it was, personally I don't think a ban would be unfair as it ended up being extremely dangerous, and will most likely cause Oliveira to miss several games.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: AV82EC on February 03, 2019, 05:37:50 PM
He should be banned for an accident?

We don't know if it was an accident. Even if it was, personally I don't think a ban would be unfair as it ended up being extremely dangerous, and will most likely cause Oliveira to miss several games.

So despite all evidence showing it was an accident, weíll ignore that because Oliveira got some cuts on his face. Jesus wept mate, get a grip.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: walsall villain on February 03, 2019, 05:40:28 PM
He should be banned for an accident?

We don't know if it was an accident. Even if it was, personally I don't think a ban would be unfair as it ended up being extremely dangerous, and will most likely cause Oliveira to miss several games.
That statement is illogical. You canít say itís fair to ban people for accidentally injuring someone. Itís very unfortunate and thatís the end of it.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 03, 2019, 05:42:18 PM
If it was deliberate I hope he gets a lengthy ban, but to say a ban wouldn't be unfair even if it was a complete accident seems a tad bizarre. Does every player that injures another player, even in fair challenges, get a ban as well?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Richard E on February 03, 2019, 05:44:10 PM
Has Oliveira suggested it was deliberate? Or the Reading manager?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 03, 2019, 05:53:10 PM
Has Oliveira suggested it was deliberate? Or the Reading manager?

Not at all. Watch the video below in full speed. Watch the Reading players. Nobody appeals. Keep an eye on Mings once he sees the extent of the injury. He doesnít exactly look happy. This was an accident.

https://twitter.com/skyfootball/status/1092090638558998529?s=12
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: cdbullyweefan on February 03, 2019, 05:57:34 PM
He should be banned for an accident?

We don't know if it was an accident. Even if it was, personally I don't think a ban would be unfair as it ended up being extremely dangerous, and will most likely cause Oliveira to miss several games.

If we don't know it was an accident, we don't know that it was deliberate either. You can't ban someone unless you're sure. As for being dangerous, if your foot moves out of its natural direction then fair enough, I'd agree. If your foot is just going where gravity and momentum takes it, that's not an indication of reckless play.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: aj2k77 on February 03, 2019, 06:08:39 PM
Sounds like he played well yesterday. But he should get a ban for that, no justice for Oliveira if not.

Justice for Oliviera, fucks sake, standards severely dropping.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: CT on February 03, 2019, 06:10:07 PM
Twitter is somewhere between a ten game ban and a public execution for Tyrone at the moment.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Risso on February 03, 2019, 06:12:01 PM
I don't think I've ever seen a player tread on another player's head before, even accidentally, and yet we've got a player who's done it twice.  If it was one of our players who had come off the pitch looking like he'd been run over by a lawnmower, we'd all be mightily pissed off.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: AVH87 on February 03, 2019, 06:12:24 PM
He should be banned for an accident?

We don't know if it was an accident. Even if it was, personally I don't think a ban would be unfair as it ended up being extremely dangerous, and will most likely cause Oliveira to miss several games.

So despite all evidence showing it was an accident, weíll ignore that because Oliveira got some cuts on his face. Jesus wept mate, get a grip.

'all evidence' it's literally a case of watching the same replay, either normal speed or slowed down. In slow mo it's looks worse for Mings. If Grealish comes back Friday and a Sheffield Utd defender does that to him, I think the reaction will be very different afterwards.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: TheMalandro on February 03, 2019, 06:12:33 PM
Iíve only seen the slow motion video, itís very difficult to tell from that.
My guess would be accidental.

Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: AVH87 on February 03, 2019, 06:14:36 PM
I don't think I've ever seen a player tread on another player's head before, even accidentally, and yet we've got a player who's done it twice.  If it was one of our players who had come off the pitch looking like he'd been run over by a lawnmower, we'd all be mightily pissed off.

It's such a rare thing as you say, and yet 90%+ of people on here seem happy to write it off as almost definitely an accident, despite the fact he's done it before 2 years ago.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: TheMalandro on February 03, 2019, 06:24:17 PM
Actually, watching the full speed replay  and Mings quick reaction to the incident... it looks bad. 

Iím not 100% either way.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: SheffieldVillain on February 03, 2019, 06:41:59 PM
I don't think I've ever seen a player tread on another player's head before, even accidentally, and yet we've got a player who's done it twice.  If it was one of our players who had come off the pitch looking like he'd been run over by a lawnmower, we'd all be mightily pissed off.

It's such a rare thing as you say, and yet 90%+ of people on here seem happy to write it off as almost definitely an accident, despite the fact he's done it before 2 years ago.

I think 99% would agree that if not sure on whether something is an accident or not, you can't punish the player involved just in case it wasn't an accident.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 03, 2019, 07:00:08 PM
I don't think I've ever seen a player tread on another player's head before, even accidentally, and yet we've got a player who's done it twice.  If it was one of our players who had come off the pitch looking like he'd been run over by a lawnmower, we'd all be mightily pissed off.

It's such a rare thing as you say, and yet 90%+ of people on here seem happy to write it off as almost definitely an accident, despite the fact he's done it before 2 years ago.

Which has absolutely no bearing on what happened on Saturday whatsoever.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: dave shelley on February 03, 2019, 07:55:14 PM
We have a referee on here don't we?

Be interesting to hear what they think.

Looking at the laws, I don't think it meets Violent Conduct as it's the aftermath of an attempt to win the ball (actually it's a foul on Mings), where Violent Conduct must be an incident off the ball. I don't see how you can separate out the fact Oliveria falls and knocks Mings' standing left leg from the original attempt for the ball.

It doesn't meet any of the criteria for Serious Foul Play.

What would he be charged with?

It seems to me much is being made by the Twitterati over a split second incident slowed to several second gif's. He hope and plants his foot as he naturally tries to maintain balance, head lowering as it does when you fall to act as a counterweight.

He says it was accidental, it's very unfortunate that there's been a nasty injury. Nothing ultimately serious beyond a few stitches though.

Having seen it now, if I had been refereeing that match I would honestly have seen it as an accident, as you say, it's all about gaining your balance and Mings is a big unit.  It's an unfortunate part of the game.  If he gets banned it will be due to lynch mob hysteria.

Violent conduct doesn't have to necessarily be off the ball btw.  Think elbows as an example.

Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Ads on February 03, 2019, 08:02:44 PM
Cheers Dave. I assume you're issued with guidance notes to accompany the laws, as they don't seem the best drafted to me.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: dave shelley on February 03, 2019, 08:11:58 PM
Cheers Dave. I assume you're issued with guidance notes to accompany the laws, as they don't seem the best drafted to me.

The laws of Association Football are so wide open to interpretation it's small wonder there are so many contentious events during matches.  There has been a small move towards clarification on some laws so thankful for small mercies and all that.  As long as the laws contain the words 'in the opinion of the referee' there will never be the consistency that all football followers cry out for.  IMO, the best referees can do is to be consistent with themselves and we all know what that means if he's useless.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: brian green on February 03, 2019, 08:17:58 PM
Violet Jessup was a ship's nurse who survived the sinking of the Titanic.  She was also on board the Britannic and the Olympic when they sank.  To accuse Tyrone Mings of serial face stamping is like accusing Violet Jessup of serial ocean liner sinking.

Events must be judged on evidence not circumstance.  All the evidence points to to the incident being an accident.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: wittonwarrior on February 03, 2019, 08:36:19 PM
Just know what's going to land at Villa Park 9am tomorrow.   Its the Villa way.  Urggggh
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: brian green on February 03, 2019, 08:48:09 PM
If he does get charged, we, those fans who consider Tyrone to be blameless, must fight his corner.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 03, 2019, 08:50:07 PM
What do you mean by fight his corner? It will be a decision we all have to live with, and we might still disagree on the final outcome however it comes out.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Ads on February 03, 2019, 08:51:17 PM
We tut...loudly.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Richard E on February 03, 2019, 08:53:10 PM
If we tut and the FA arenít there to hear it, does it still make a sound?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 03, 2019, 08:57:04 PM
The Olympic didn't sink, Jessop was a bit of a Jonah though.

If Mings is charged I shall harrumph at least twice.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: brian green on February 03, 2019, 08:58:59 PM
What I mean by fight his corner is be prepared to be supportive of him here in this forum and elsewhere when parties are blind to the realities of contact sport.

Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: brian green on February 03, 2019, 09:05:10 PM
Okay, Titanic sank, Britannic sank, the Olympic was a TKO.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: dave shelley on February 03, 2019, 09:06:20 PM
It wasn't for the want of trying that the Olympic didn't sink.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Ad@m on February 03, 2019, 09:11:13 PM
If he does get charged we just need to accept that we lost and should get over it!
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Brassneck on February 03, 2019, 09:18:06 PM
I don't see how you could possibly prove that, Mings intentionally stamped on the player.

If pushed, I would say that he could probably have stretched his leg so that it landed past Oliveria.  However, as Mings does not change direction, nobody can ever say with certainty that it was intentional.  He has to be given the benefit of the doubt here.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 03, 2019, 09:18:38 PM
Violet Jessup was a ship's nurse who survived the sinking of the Titanic.  She was also on board the Britannic and the Olympic when they sank.  To accuse Tyrone Mings of serial face stamping is like accusing Violet Jessup of serial ocean liner sinking.

Events must be judged on evidence not circumstance.  All the evidence points to to the incident being an accident.

Did she by any chance have a grandson who grew up to be a teacher in Walsall?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: paul_e on February 03, 2019, 09:27:20 PM
For the people that think he should be banned regardles why weren't you calling for a ban for Cleverley when he hospitalised Grealish last summer? How about the countless other accidental collisions that happen every weekend? Should players automatically be banned if they're involved in a challenge where the other players gets hurt? Or is it just because it's the face/head? What makes something an automatic ban even if there's no evidence that it was dangerous or intentional?

All I'm trying to get at is I saw incident before i saw the picture and at no point did I ever think he would get or would deserve a ban for it.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: brian green on February 03, 2019, 09:28:26 PM
In 1966 when I lived in Balsall Common, I sold a caravan to a young chap who intended to take it to Belgium to become e a bike racer.  He lived in Malvern but said he would come on his bike to see the caravan.  Just outside Knowle he was going full gas with his head over his bars, not looking where he was going.  He rode into the back of a horse.  Horse bucked and planted a rear hoof square in the bike rider's face.  When we opened our door too him his face was like a smashed jar of strawberry jam.  We cleaned him up, plastered him up, gave a mug of hot sweet tea and two aspirins.  He paid for the caravan and rode back to Malvern.

If we participate in sport bloody accidents are an inevitability.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Ads on February 03, 2019, 09:30:02 PM
Wasn't there a conspiracy about the Titantic and an insurance scam for White Star Line or what have you?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on February 03, 2019, 09:36:15 PM
Wasn't there a conspiracy about the Titantic and an insurance scam for White Star Line or what have you?
They were thinking about it but it was shelved ......yes it was put on ice
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Legion on February 03, 2019, 09:36:21 PM
Violet Jessup was a ship's nurse who survived the sinking of the Titanic.  She was also on board the Britannic and the Olympic when they sank.  To accuse Tyrone Mings of serial face stamping is like accusing Violet Jessup of serial ocean liner sinking.

Events must be judged on evidence not circumstance.  All the evidence points to to the incident being an accident.

Did she by any chance have a grandson who grew up to be a teacher in Walsall?

Chuckles.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: brian green on February 03, 2019, 09:38:21 PM
Funny you should mention that Ads, that's your lawyer intuition.  All three of those nautical disasters were to ships of the White Star Line I think. 
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: adrenachrome on February 03, 2019, 10:41:21 PM
Funny you should mention that Ads, that's your lawyer intuition.  All three of those nautical disasters were to ships of the White Star Line I think. 

Scuttled for the wedge innit.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: adrenachrome on February 03, 2019, 11:05:56 PM
It is clear to me from the footage that Mings was not aware that their player was underneath him. He was looking in the direction of the ball.

If he is charged then we should engage the services of Bliar, Minger and Cooper to push for a Peoples Vote until the authorities get it right. We will fight them on the beaches and in the hedgerows all the way to the Cairngorms via the Trossachs.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Drummond on February 03, 2019, 11:26:28 PM
I think he could have moved but didn't. However, I don't think he deliberately moved to stamp on him.

But we'll never know. Everyone is entitled to their view but unless you agree with me you're wrong.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Chinchilla Bathhouse on February 03, 2019, 11:39:58 PM
I've just seen the replay for the first time. I'd only seen the incident once, when it happened, and it's nothing like I remembered - I hadn't realised Mings basically landed on the bloke. I thought his reaction was telling, as was that of the other players. It looked like an accident at the time and it still does.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: chrisw1 on February 04, 2019, 09:08:44 AM
If this wasn't a Villa player, I'd be saying he looked at the guy on the floor and shortened his stride deliberately to catch him.

However, as he is a Villan I agree entirely that it was a pure accident.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: darren woolley on February 04, 2019, 09:25:23 AM
I thought he had a good game looking forward for the rest of the season with him in defence I also thought the incident with there striker was an accident.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: pooligan on February 04, 2019, 10:16:30 AM
I see that prick Mark Halsey who i use to hate when he refereed our matches is calling for Mings to receive a lengthy ban ,this despite the match referee not seeing anything untoward. Just a couple of weeks ago i saw the Small Heath defender Colin stamp on a Norwich player in the televised game but hardly anything was said .
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Risso on February 04, 2019, 10:23:17 AM
FA awaiting referee report apparently:

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/11627783/tyrone-mings-stamp-on-nelson-oliveira-investigated-by-fa
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: auntiesledd on February 04, 2019, 10:41:17 AM
Knowing the lynch-mob attitude that social media brings, I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if the FA issue a ban. The incident was clearly horrible to watch, but the only person who really knows if the stamp was deliberate is Mings himself. Seeing as he's also got 'previous' for stamping on Ibrahimovic, I fear he could be already guilty in the eyes of those who will soon be deciding his fate. Triffick.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Duncan Shaw on February 04, 2019, 10:44:11 AM
Bollocks, knowing our luck with the FA there is only one way this is going isn't there?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Diablo on February 04, 2019, 10:49:24 AM
If the ref says he saw it and saw it as a coming together (accident) would that mean the fa would be unable to act/give a retrospective ban?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Jon Crofts on February 04, 2019, 11:03:16 AM
Surely if the ref saw it as anything other than a coming together he should have acted immediately & should explain why he failed to act at the time.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Rigadon on February 04, 2019, 11:06:06 AM
Surely if the ref saw it as anything other than a coming together he should have acted immediately & should explain why he failed to act at the time.

Unless they are allowed to include stuff they saw on TV after the game in their match report that is... 
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: AsTallAsLions on February 04, 2019, 11:09:59 AM
At the time on Saturday when I saw this I thought it was completely innocuous and that Mings couldn't have avoided it but after watching again a few times it does look negligent at best and potentially intentional at worst. As someone else has said, he seems to shorten his stride and could definitely have hurdled him safely if he had tried.

I feel immensely sorry for Oliveira who will likely be left with a fair degree of facial scarring so I wouldn't think us hard done by if Mings gets a lengthy ban.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Ads on February 04, 2019, 11:12:35 AM
He's tripped up by Oliveria. It's a contact sport. You accept there's risk of injury from collisions, coming together and tackles.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: AsTallAsLions on February 04, 2019, 11:16:23 AM
He's tripped up by Oliveria. It's a contact sport. You accept there's risk of injury from collisions, coming together and tackles.

None of which indicates that he didn't intend to stamp down on him.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: pooligan on February 04, 2019, 11:25:14 AM
Only Mings knows if it was a accident or not ,the referee who was just feet away did not even give a free kick. I can't see how the FA can charge him without solid proof that it was intentional .This is Aston Villa though and as we have seen often in the past seem to be treated different to other clubs So i am half expecting him to be charged
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: andyh on February 04, 2019, 11:25:19 AM
I have watched it over and over again and I just have this nagging doubt that there was some intention there.
Yes, Mings was tripped but he does appear the leave his trailing leg in there.
Maybe it happened so quickly he couldnít pull away from it, but there is a little bit of a nasty taste here.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Ads on February 04, 2019, 11:26:44 AM
He's tripped up by Oliveria. It's a contact sport. You accept there's risk of injury from collisions, coming together and tackles.

None of which indicates that he didn't intend to stamp down on him.

Burden of proof rests elsewhere.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Risso on February 04, 2019, 11:26:51 AM
I have watched it over and over again and I just have this nagging doubt that there was some intention there.
Yes, Mings was tripped but he does appear the leave his trailing leg in there.
Maybe it happened so quickly he couldnít pull away from it, but there is a little bit of a nasty taste here.

That's more or less where I am.  I think he's 'reckless' and could have avoided trampling on the player, even if just by falling over.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Ads on February 04, 2019, 11:29:37 AM
The reaction on Twitter is nearly as bad as when that Arsenal player Eduardo died and Fabregas the King, GP and cosmopolitan Arsenal season ticket holder had to blog about being roughed up by horrible midland types who he'd tried to fight out of outrage.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: luke95 on February 04, 2019, 11:37:07 AM
Nothing more than a unfortunate unavoidable coming together .
2 players off balance falling whilst chasing/tussling for the ball.

All the comparisons  to the zlatan incident are pointless , in that instance there was a bit of needle between the 2 , both on the floor, one gets up & tries to stud/stepover the other, easily avoidable. 
Looking like he'll be found guilty by social media anyway because of the previous incident .
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: pauliewalnuts on February 04, 2019, 11:44:03 AM
The reaction on Twitter is nearly as bad as when that Arsenal player Eduardo died and Fabregas the King, GP and cosmopolitan Arsenal season ticket holder had to blog about being roughed up by horrible midland types who he'd tried to fight out of outrage.

Also as bad as that time Alan Hutton brutally shot Shane Long in the face with a blunderbuss.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Jon Crofts on February 04, 2019, 01:09:06 PM
The reaction on Twitter is nearly as bad as when that Arsenal player Eduardo died and Fabregas the King, GP and cosmopolitan Arsenal season ticket holder had to blog about being roughed up by horrible midland types who he'd tried to fight out of outrage.

Also as bad as that time Alan Hutton brutally shot Shane Long in the face with a blunderbuss.

Nowhere near as bad as when George Boateng viciously headbutted Paul Gascoigne's left arm.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on February 04, 2019, 01:37:21 PM


How anyone can claim Tyrone could make a conscious decision where to put his leg in the split second this all took to unfold is beyond me.

Slowed down i can see why people think it was maybe malicious but real life doesn't happen in slow motion.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Damo70 on February 04, 2019, 01:44:23 PM
Depending on you point of view it looks very bad (made worse by the nasty facial injury) or looks like he accidently stumbled and was off balance so couldn't have done it intentionally. Having watched it back a few times I think it was accidental and would give him the benefit of the doubt rather than a lengthy ban.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: wittonwarrior on February 04, 2019, 01:48:14 PM
Accidental but heíll be lucky to walk away from action against him which is our concern
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Legion on February 04, 2019, 01:50:25 PM
If the worst should happen, Mings can only get better.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Chinchilla Bathhouse on February 04, 2019, 02:04:53 PM


How anyone can claim Tyrone could make a conscious decision where to put his leg in the split second this all took to unfold is beyond me.

Slowed down i can see why people think it was maybe malicious but real life doesn't happen in slow motion.

That's my view too.  In real time it happened so quickly I can't see how he could have stepped out of the way.  The guy fell headlong under his feet, I'm not sure what people think Mings could have done to avoid him going at that pace.

Interesting too that the social media reaction is in stark contrast to the reaction of the players on the field.  For starters I don't think a man who'd intended to do that would immediately turn and summon the referee over.  Mings didn't behave at all like a man who'd lost his cool in the heat of the moment.  I also think that players know damn well when a foul is intentional, if the Reading players thought it was deliberate they'd have been incensed and they'd have piled into Mings in numbers, but there was no mass brawl and no attempted retribution in the rest of the game.  It looked and felt at the time like a nasty but accidental collision that was quickly dealt with; it seems that it was only when the photos were released that it became foul of the century.   

Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Dave P on February 04, 2019, 02:55:26 PM
Out of interest, was he done for it last time?  If so, what did he get?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: olaftab on February 04, 2019, 02:58:29 PM
Accidental but heíll be lucky to walk away from action against him which is our concern
The ref saw it clearly and took no action so there is no come back.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: adrenachrome on February 04, 2019, 03:00:11 PM
Out of interest, was he done for it last time?  If so, what did he get?

5 match ban.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Villa Lew on February 04, 2019, 03:14:24 PM
Out of interest, was he done for it last time?  If so, what did he get?

5 match ban.
Yeah and the concern is if he is found guilty this time, he's going to get an even longer ban I would imagine.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on February 04, 2019, 03:15:38 PM
Oliveira's missus has her say, she ain't happy:

melrodrigues22
Just want to say that Nelson is much better and he will come home tomorrow. It was a sad day for us and I hope someone will appeal for this guy get a lengthy ban!
Thereís absolutely no excuse for his behaviour. He knew where his head was. Any injury is upsetting but something like this is just disgusting.
I hope something will happen, he canít get away with that! Heís got previous!
Thank you all for the msgs, love and support
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: andyh on February 04, 2019, 03:16:26 PM
This is taken from elsewhere.
Itís in incredibly bad taste................but I did laugh.


Ohhhh Tyrone Mings is magic
He wears a magic hat
And if you threw a brick at him heíll stamp on your fucking face.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Chinchilla Bathhouse on February 04, 2019, 03:22:30 PM
Oliveira's missus has her say, she ain't happy:

melrodrigues22
Just want to say that Nelson is much better and he will come home tomorrow. It was a sad day for us and I hope someone will appeal for this guy get a lengthy ban!
Thereís absolutely no excuse for his behaviour. He knew where his head was. Any injury is upsetting but something like this is just disgusting.
I hope something will happen, he canít get away with that! Heís got previous!
Thank you all for the msgs, love and support

Well that's completely unhelpful and unfair.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 04, 2019, 03:24:30 PM
Right now public opinion is starting to swing against Mings. The FA even if they are not totally convinced it was intended will be compelled to act and ban him. And his previous offence and ban will work against him. They are unrelated incidents but they wonít be separated in the court of public opinion.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on February 04, 2019, 03:27:08 PM
Oliveira's missus has her say, she ain't happy:

melrodrigues22
Just want to say that Nelson is much better and he will come home tomorrow. It was a sad day for us and I hope someone will appeal for this guy get a lengthy ban!
Thereís absolutely no excuse for his behaviour. He knew where his head was. Any injury is upsetting but something like this is just disgusting.
I hope something will happen, he canít get away with that! Heís got previous!
Thank you all for the msgs, love and support

Well that's completely unhelpful and unfair.

It is but it gives you some idea where Oliveira's head is right now.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Chinchilla Bathhouse on February 04, 2019, 03:27:47 PM
The public outcry should have bugger all to do with it.  If pressure from the Twatter mob forces the FA's hand then that sets a dangerous precedent.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Chinchilla Bathhouse on February 04, 2019, 03:28:25 PM
Oliveira's missus has her say, she ain't happy:

melrodrigues22
Just want to say that Nelson is much better and he will come home tomorrow. It was a sad day for us and I hope someone will appeal for this guy get a lengthy ban!
Thereís absolutely no excuse for his behaviour. He knew where his head was. Any injury is upsetting but something like this is just disgusting.
I hope something will happen, he canít get away with that! Heís got previous!
Thank you all for the msgs, love and support

Well that's completely unhelpful and unfair.

It is but it gives you some idea where Oliveira's head is right now.

Under a pack of frozen peas I'd imagine.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: garyshawsknee on February 04, 2019, 03:36:52 PM
This isn't me just wearing Villa tinted glasses, but it looked like a very unfortunate accident, happened so quickly Mings wouldn't have had time to do it if he tried. When you add that Mings has previous, lads face is mashed up and the petri dish of Twitter, it's now become a big debate and a lot of unfair pressure has fell on Mings. Hope common sense prevails.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: ajmant on February 04, 2019, 03:37:48 PM
This is taken from elsewhere.
Itís in incredibly bad taste................but I did laugh.


Ohhhh Tyrone Mings is magic
He wears a magic hat
And if you threw a brick at him heíll stamp on your fucking face.

Really? Funny in what way?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: VinnieChase84 on February 04, 2019, 03:42:38 PM
The ref was 3 feet away and didnít even give a foul. The Reading players didnít kick off. You can see from Mings instant reaction that itís an accident.
This trail by media/internet is a disgrace. A Rotherham player two footed the Milwall keeper (or may have been a player) in a goal mouth scramble that was far worse than this incident. Not seen it mentioned anywhere.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on February 04, 2019, 03:44:44 PM
He and we are fcuked.  Liam Cooper got six games and he claimed his was non intentional. 

When you add the public clamour because obviously he has murdered someone in a pre meditated act not in fact accidentally stood on someone in what used to be a contact sport then itís the rest of the season at least.  Oh and he plays for us so that automatically carries an extra three games.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: andyh on February 04, 2019, 03:47:03 PM
This is taken from elsewhere.
Itís in incredibly bad taste................but I did laugh.


Ohhhh Tyrone Mings is magic
He wears a magic hat
And if you threw a brick at him heíll stamp on your fucking face.

Really? Funny in what way?
Spare me your indignation.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Legion on February 04, 2019, 03:50:40 PM
At this rate he'll probably end up being shot at dawn. If so, give the job to Scott Hogan.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Ads on February 04, 2019, 03:55:53 PM
The players don't react. But then Mings is fucking massive and if you did think he's done it on purpose, why would you start on a massive bloke that stamps on faces?

Not that he did stamp mind.

The Twitterati reaction doesn't give much hope for humanity. Reactionary garbage.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Ads on February 04, 2019, 03:58:24 PM
He and we are fcuked.  Liam Cooper got six games and he claimed his was non intentional. 

When you add the public clamour because obviously he has murdered someone in a pre meditated act not in fact accidentally stood on someone in what used to be a contact sport then itís the rest of the season at least.  Oh and he plays for us so that automatically carries an extra three games.

Yes, as he quite obviously jumps and stamps on his head. In what why are they comparable?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on February 04, 2019, 04:03:27 PM
Not in any way shape or form Ads.  But remember we still remain the only club in history to my knowledge to actually get some for tapping up a player that never even signed for us.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: olaftab on February 04, 2019, 04:04:50 PM
Has he been charged? Normally any charges where the officials have missed something come out late Monday.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: AsTallAsLions on February 04, 2019, 04:05:03 PM
The players don't react. But then Mings is fucking massive and if you did think he's done it on purpose, why would you start on a massive bloke that stamps on faces?

Not that he did stamp mind.

The Twitterati reaction doesn't give much hope for humanity. Reactionary garbage.

The players don't react? So several of Oliveira's Reading teammates trying to get Mings away from him and then getting arsey when the likes of Hourihane come over doesn't count?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Ads on February 04, 2019, 04:08:29 PM
They don't kick off is what the poster alluded to and what I agree with. There wasn't any hand bags like we had with Hulll was it the other week?

I'm being light hearted and saying they didn't come the hard man because Mings would have probably just eaten them.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: DB on February 04, 2019, 04:09:13 PM
No further action. Just been on the old wireless
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Ads on February 04, 2019, 04:09:58 PM
Justice!
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: LukeJames on February 04, 2019, 04:13:50 PM
Common sense prevails.

Fuck you social media.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Chinchilla Bathhouse on February 04, 2019, 04:18:43 PM
I should bloody think not.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on February 04, 2019, 04:33:45 PM
Good.  Halsey fcuk off.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: LukeJames on February 04, 2019, 04:38:03 PM
Now that bull shit is over. Impressive debut, looked commanding, gave us alot of presence and the defence looked well balanced.

Hopefully the rest does Chester good and he can come back looking like the player from last season. Although right now a back two of Axel and Mings looks like hard in material. Shame neither of them are actually ours.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: brian green on February 04, 2019, 04:59:49 PM
So much for the Meaning Evil's speculation that he would get a six weeks ban.  Common sense prevails.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: chrisw1 on February 04, 2019, 05:10:19 PM
No further action. Just been on the old wireless
Thanks fuck for that.

I think I'm going to like this kid.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Legion on February 04, 2019, 05:10:58 PM
Tyrone Mings: Aston Villa defender will not face action over Nelson Oliveira incident - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47119805
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: VinnieChase84 on February 04, 2019, 05:35:42 PM
Good.  Halsey fcuk off.

Surprised Halsey wasnít too busy getting tugged off from a stranger while driving a taxi, all behind his wifeís back to even have time to see this incident
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Villa Lew on February 04, 2019, 05:53:59 PM
Great news that is the right decision I believe. Talking generally now the ruling was given on the basis that the match officials had seen the incident, which I think is wrong, as there have been many incidents in the past, for example, where the ref has given a yellow card, when replays show it should clearly have been a red. Due to the rules the authorities cannot overturn the decision.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: olaftab on February 04, 2019, 06:05:24 PM
No further action. Just been on the old wireless
Thanks fuck for that.

I think I'm going to like this kid.
As I said the Ref was two yards away saw it clearly as accidental. Shame about he wife sounding so bitter and vengeful. Hope she clams down and understands there was no malice in it.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: LeeB on February 04, 2019, 06:08:44 PM
They can all fuck off, up the Villa.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: pooligan on February 04, 2019, 06:09:22 PM
I think Halsey should be banned for shit stirring .How he gives his opinion on anything is beyond me,lets face it ,like Phil Dowd he was a shit referee
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Diablo on February 04, 2019, 06:13:06 PM
No further action. Just been on the old wireless
Thanks fuck for that.

I think I'm going to like this kid.
As I said the Ref was two yards away saw it clearly as accidental. Shame about he wife sounding so bitter and vengeful. Hope she clams down and understands there was no malice in it.
I've not seen what she's said but in her defence the injury looks horrendous and she is no doubt in shock. As you say hopefully he'll make a quick recovery and she'll accept it was an accident. 

Edit I've now just seen what she posted so please ignore my mutterings
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: chrisw1 on February 04, 2019, 06:15:37 PM
I think he's off more on a technicality.  The ref saw it at the time and didn't give a foul.  That's not to say that if it was reviewed after the event they wouldn't have taken a different decision (a bit like in rugby where refs often change their decision on studying the footage on field or a the citing panel after the event).

I think we're lucky, but it's great news as he could be an important player for us.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: cheltenhamlion on February 04, 2019, 06:15:56 PM
Oliveira's missus has her say, she ain't happy:

melrodrigues22
Just want to say that Nelson is much better and he will come home tomorrow. It was a sad day for us and I hope someone will appeal for this guy get a lengthy ban!
Thereís absolutely no excuse for his behaviour. He knew where his head was. Any injury is upsetting but something like this is just disgusting.
I hope something will happen, he canít get away with that! Heís got previous!
Thank you all for the msgs, love and support

Well that's completely unhelpful and unfair.

It is but it gives you some idea where Oliveira's head is right now.

A fair chunk of it is still attached to Tyrones boot.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: cheltenhamlion on February 04, 2019, 06:17:52 PM
Oliveira's missus has her say, she ain't happy:

melrodrigues22
Just want to say that Nelson is much better and he will come home tomorrow. It was a sad day for us and I hope someone will appeal for this guy get a lengthy ban!
Thereís absolutely no excuse for his behaviour. He knew where his head was. Any injury is upsetting but something like this is just disgusting.
I hope something will happen, he canít get away with that! Heís got previous!
Thank you all for the msgs, love and support

I have much sympathy for her but what the fuck would she know about anything other than her hubbies face is fucked?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Chipsticks on February 04, 2019, 06:24:24 PM
Oliveira's missus has her say, she ain't happy:

melrodrigues22
Just want to say that Nelson is much better and he will come home tomorrow. It was a sad day for us and I hope someone will appeal for this guy get a lengthy ban!
Thereís absolutely no excuse for his behaviour. He knew where his head was. Any injury is upsetting but something like this is just disgusting.
I hope something will happen, he canít get away with that! Heís got previous!
Thank you all for the msgs, love and support

I have much sympathy for her but what the fuck would she know about anything other than her hubbies face is fucked?

To be honest she probably knows more than we do given that she can talk to him directly about exactly what happened.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: amfy on February 04, 2019, 06:26:24 PM
I think the thing that was missed when people say he could have avoided his face, is that as it unfolds Oliveira was also moving as he fell. When you watch it, and I canít think of a better way of putting this, his face only gets to that spot a split second before Tyroneís boot.

So - at speed he is trying to guess where his foot needs not to land.

Anyway - not guilty now so we move on.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on February 04, 2019, 06:29:51 PM
Oliveira's missus has her say, she ain't happy:

melrodrigues22
Just want to say that Nelson is much better and he will come home tomorrow. It was a sad day for us and I hope someone will appeal for this guy get a lengthy ban!
Thereís absolutely no excuse for his behaviour. He knew where his head was. Any injury is upsetting but something like this is just disgusting.
I hope something will happen, he canít get away with that! Heís got previous!
Thank you all for the msgs, love and support

I have much sympathy for her but what the fuck would she know about anything other than her hubbies face is fucked?

Women and football, eh? ;)
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: brian green on February 04, 2019, 06:30:08 PM
Reminds me of Unsworth's wife hating the Villa because her husband could not get home to Liverpool every afternoon for his tea.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: cheltenhamlion on February 04, 2019, 06:32:37 PM
I think he's off more on a technicality.  The ref saw it at the time and didn't give a foul.  That's not to say that if it was reviewed after the event they wouldn't have taken a different decision (a bit like in rugby where refs often change their decision on studying the footage on field or a the citing panel after the event).

I think we're lucky, but it's great news as he could be an important player for us.

It isn't a technicality, everyone of importance accepts it is an accident. And as for the "pray/justice for Oliveira" shit from earlier then words fucking fail me. From our own fans as well.

You don't punish the injury, you punish the offence. There wasn't even an offence here.

Can I also point out that footyskillz can piss off with what I read earlier as well. I ignore his posts normally and just tolerate him being here. But given he is back into Brice Jovial mode, where he seemingly wants to complain to all and sundry with his wanking off "Zlatan", outrage at a widely available photo being posted without his consent etc. I still haven't quite recovered from him reporting me to Villa years ago and demanding the removal of my season ticket for calling him a twat on here.

What is wrong with some people these days? A few years back I snapped someone's leg in a football match between two departments at work. I didn't get a lengthy suspension from work just because he would be off for a few months (I didn't do it deliberately either I might add).

Our rush to beat ourselves up is mind boggling at times.

DW - I was clearly about to take a mag writing hiatus given my last one but you can have a couple of pages on this and the kangaroo court of trial by Twitter for the next one.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: cheltenhamlion on February 04, 2019, 06:34:01 PM
Oliveira's missus has her say, she ain't happy:

melrodrigues22
Just want to say that Nelson is much better and he will come home tomorrow. It was a sad day for us and I hope someone will appeal for this guy get a lengthy ban!
Thereís absolutely no excuse for his behaviour. He knew where his head was. Any injury is upsetting but something like this is just disgusting.
I hope something will happen, he canít get away with that! Heís got previous!
Thank you all for the msgs, love and support

I have much sympathy for her but what the fuck would she know about anything other than her hubbies face is fucked?

Women and football, eh? ;)

Not at all what I was suggesting in case anyone starts!
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: LukeJames on February 04, 2019, 06:41:50 PM
Oliveira's missus has her say, she ain't happy:

melrodrigues22
Just want to say that Nelson is much better and he will come home tomorrow. It was a sad day for us and I hope someone will appeal for this guy get a lengthy ban!
Thereís absolutely no excuse for his behaviour. He knew where his head was. Any injury is upsetting but something like this is just disgusting.
I hope something will happen, he canít get away with that! Heís got previous!
Thank you all for the msgs, love and support

I have much sympathy for her but what the fuck would she know about anything other than her hubbies face is fucked?

To be honest she probably knows more than we do given that she can talk to him directly about exactly what happened.

And how does he know if what happened was an accident or deliberate? Him and her knows as much as everybody else.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on February 04, 2019, 06:42:51 PM
I think he's off more on a technicality.  The ref saw it at the time and didn't give a foul.  That's not to say that if it was reviewed after the event they wouldn't have taken a different decision (a bit like in rugby where refs often change their decision on studying the footage on field or a the citing panel after the event).

I think we're lucky, but it's great news as he could be an important player for us.

It isn't a technicality, everyone of importance accepts it is an accident. And as for the "pray/justice for Oliveira" shit from earlier then words fucking fail me. From our own fans as well.

You don't punish the injury, you punish the offence. There wasn't even an offence here.

Can I also point out that footyskillz can piss off with what I read earlier as well. I ignore his posts normally and just tolerate him being here. But given he is back into Brice Jovial mode, where he seemingly wants to complain to all and sundry with his wanking off "Zlatan", outrage at a widely available photo being posted without his consent etc. I still haven't quite recovered from him reporting me to Villa years ago and demanding the removal of my season ticket for calling him a twat on here.

What is wrong with some people these days? A few years back I snapped someone's leg in a football match between two departments at work. I didn't get a lengthy suspension from work just because he would be off for a few months (I didn't do it deliberately either I might add).

Our rush to beat ourselves up is mind boggling at times.

DW - I was clearly about to take a mag writing hiatus given my last one but you can have a couple of pages on this and the kangaroo court of trial by Twitter for the next one.

Hear, hear.  I thought it was just me.  What on earth is wrong with some people.  Bloke in contact sport connects at high speed with opponents face and said opponents face is cut severely.  And people want to ban us from showing the picture.  FFS.  Even fcukin tiddly winks is dangerous if one of the tiddlies bounces up into someone's eye.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: KevinGage on February 04, 2019, 06:44:11 PM
So much for the Meaning Evil's speculation that he would get a six weeks ban.  Common sense prevails.

Sceptic Pegg Evans will be crying himself to sleep, the little sugerbag.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: brian green on February 04, 2019, 07:01:27 PM
I despair how weak and silly people are becoming  God help some people if they ever had to cope with genuine suffering.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 04, 2019, 07:09:17 PM
Outstanding fucking rant Chelts. Agree with every word.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Jon Crofts on February 04, 2019, 07:12:48 PM
I think he's off more on a technicality.  The ref saw it at the time and didn't give a foul.  That's not to say that if it was reviewed after the event they wouldn't have taken a different decision (a bit like in rugby where refs often change their decision on studying the footage on field or a the citing panel after the event).

I think we're lucky, but it's great news as he could be an important player for us.

It isn't a technicality, everyone of importance accepts it is an accident. And as for the "pray/justice for Oliveira" shit from earlier then words fucking fail me. From our own fans as well.

You don't punish the injury, you punish the offence. There wasn't even an offence here.

Can I also point out that footyskillz can piss off with what I read earlier as well. I ignore his posts normally and just tolerate him being here. But given he is back into Brice Jovial mode, where he seemingly wants to complain to all and sundry with his wanking off "Zlatan", outrage at a widely available photo being posted without his consent etc. I still haven't quite recovered from him reporting me to Villa years ago and demanding the removal of my season ticket for calling him a twat on here.

What is wrong with some people these days? A few years back I snapped someone's leg in a football match between two departments at work. I didn't get a lengthy suspension from work just because he would be off for a few months (I didn't do it deliberately either I might add).

Our rush to beat ourselves up is mind boggling at times.

DW - I was clearly about to take a mag writing hiatus given my last one but you can have a couple of pages on this and the kangaroo court of trial by Twitter for the next one.

You OK Hun? Inbox me.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Clampy on February 04, 2019, 07:15:27 PM
Someone on Twitter has started a petition to get the FA to change their mind.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: AV82EC on February 04, 2019, 07:17:10 PM
Someone on Twitter has started a petition to get the FA to change their mind.

Oh please post the link I feel like dropping in to say Hello.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 04, 2019, 07:19:39 PM
I despair how weak and silly people are becoming  God help some people if they ever had to cope with genuine suffering.

You want to see it in North America Brian. Especially the US. For those believers I get that God is omnipresent but the amount of praise given for touchdowns and interceptions let alone obnoxious wealth is well...erm obnoxious. And then you have the NRA who openly advocate that God is with them in the sale of firearms that kill innocent people everywhere. Though only thoughts and prayers when it happens. Itís truly out of control and bizarre.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Ian J on February 04, 2019, 07:25:37 PM
Heís one big unit, when you see him in the aftermath of the incident you realise what a giant he is! Iím glad heís with us and not the opposition.

Right decision, it looked horrible but I canít see he meant it when you watch it at full speed.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: luke95 on February 04, 2019, 07:28:08 PM
Someone on Twitter has started a petition to get the FA to change their mind.

I wonder where that idea came from ...

 Squatnose

16:48, Mon 4 Feb

 PJ1

Maybe fans of all clubs can get a petition going to get this vile thug charged with GBH?


Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Holy Trinity on February 04, 2019, 07:29:39 PM
Bravo chelts bravo.

I agree with you word for word!
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: LukeJames on February 04, 2019, 07:33:30 PM
Someone on Twitter has started a petition to get the FA to change their mind.

I wonder where that idea came from ...

 Squatnose

16:48, Mon 4 Feb

 PJ1

Maybe fans of all clubs can get a petition going to get this vile thug charged with GBH?

That has all the hallmarks of a SHA classic.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: The Man With A Stick on February 04, 2019, 07:36:10 PM
Now I'm worried, as internet petitions always make a massive difference.  Especially when 143 people have signed it.  I hope they don't ban him for life because of this.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on February 04, 2019, 07:36:44 PM
Alan Nixon is defending it on twitter as wave after wave of SHA fans challenge him on it.  Their obsession really does know no bounds.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Ads on February 04, 2019, 07:39:40 PM
That's because the Noses are doing their best to further their inferiority complex.

"If it was one of ours..."
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 04, 2019, 07:43:35 PM
It's typical of modern society. You can't have an accident anymore - someone always has to be at fault.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: auntiesledd on February 04, 2019, 07:51:19 PM
I was expecting the worst tbh, but I'm really surprised (ang mightily relieved) that the Ref & the FA didn't buckle under the self-righteous shitstorm perpetrated by social me-jah wankers. It's about time we all had some positive news after witnessing the rubbish on the pitch. Here's to Master M building on an otherwise super debut. 
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: VILLA MOLE on February 04, 2019, 07:53:02 PM
It was a horrible accident, maybe we should petition Oliverera for a ban as really he should not have falllem and put his head in mings path ?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Newby on February 04, 2019, 07:55:44 PM
God and women eh? Who'd have em? (joke)

Common sense prevails.  No ban and justifiably so.  Halsey wants to slag current referee's off so it shows what wonderful referee he was, back in the day, when the game was slower and the Arsenal supporting 'do you want to take it quickly Tierry?' c*** was king of the hill.  Sad old twat. I do feel for the Reading lad, terrible injury, unlike the one I sustained through my eyebrow when the dirty foot up bastard sliced through my eyebrow.  Mings one was an accident.  Fortunately, for me, I'm still very handsome (also a joke).
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: auntiesledd on February 04, 2019, 07:59:39 PM
God and women eh? Who'd have em? (joke)

Common sense prevails.  No ban and justifiably so.  Halsey wants to slag current referee's off so it shows what wonderful referee he was, back in the day, when the game was slower and the Arsenal supporting 'do you want to take it quickly Tierry?' c*** was king of the hill.  Sad old twat. I do feel for the Reading lad, terrible injury, unlike the one I sustained through my eyebrow when the dirty foot up bastard sliced through my eyebrow.  Mings one was an accident.  Fortunately, for me, I'm still very handsome (also a joke).

Shut your noise, you sigh!  >:(
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: old man villa fan on February 04, 2019, 08:19:21 PM
I think he's off more on a technicality.  The ref saw it at the time and didn't give a foul.  That's not to say that if it was reviewed after the event they wouldn't have taken a different decision (a bit like in rugby where refs often change their decision on studying the footage on field or a the citing panel after the event).

I think we're lucky, but it's great news as he could be an important player for us.

It isn't a technicality, everyone of importance accepts it is an accident. And as for the "pray/justice for Oliveira" shit from earlier then words fucking fail me. From our own fans as well.

You don't punish the injury, you punish the offence. There wasn't even an offence here.

ÖÖÖÖÖÖ...

What is wrong with some people these days? A few years back I snapped someone's leg in a football match between two departments at work. I didn't get a lengthy suspension from work just because he would be off for a few months (I didn't do it deliberately either I might add).

Our rush to beat ourselves up is mind boggling at times.

DW - I was clearly about to take a mag writing hiatus given my last one but you can have a couple of pages on this and the kangaroo court of trial by Twitter for the next one.


I agree with you.  Virtue-signalling, moral outrage or whatever you want to call it, generally ignore the most important thing, the facts.  As DW said, somebody has to be seen to be at fault so people can comment and pass an opinion or, in this case, judgement.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Newby on February 04, 2019, 08:23:16 PM
God and women eh? Who'd have em? (joke)

Common sense prevails.  No ban and justifiably so.  Halsey wants to slag current referee's off so it shows what wonderful referee he was, back in the day, when the game was slower and the Arsenal supporting 'do you want to take it quickly Tierry?' c*** was king of the hill.  Sad old twat. I do feel for the Reading lad, terrible injury, unlike the one I sustained through my eyebrow when the dirty foot up bastard sliced through my eyebrow.  Mings one was an accident.  Fortunately, for me, I'm still very handsome (also a joke).

Shut your noise, you sigh!  >:(

Would it be terribly inappropriate of me to say that the only reason his wife has said what she has said is because she doesn't fancy him anymore? (joke, sorry!)
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: chrisw1 on February 04, 2019, 08:30:35 PM
I think he's off more on a technicality.  The ref saw it at the time and didn't give a foul.  That's not to say that if it was reviewed after the event they wouldn't have taken a different decision (a bit like in rugby where refs often change their decision on studying the footage on field or a the citing panel after the event).

I think we're lucky, but it's great news as he could be an important player for us.

It isn't a technicality, everyone of importance accepts it is an accident. And as for the "pray/justice for Oliveira" shit from earlier then words fucking fail me. From our own fans as well.

You don't punish the injury, you punish the offence. There wasn't even an offence here.

Can I also point out that footyskillz can piss off with what I read earlier as well. I ignore his posts normally and just tolerate him being here. But given he is back into Brice Jovial mode, where he seemingly wants to complain to all and sundry with his wanking off "Zlatan", outrage at a widely available photo being posted without his consent etc. I still haven't quite recovered from him reporting me to Villa years ago and demanding the removal of my season ticket for calling him a twat on here.

What is wrong with some people these days? A few years back I snapped someone's leg in a football match between two departments at work. I didn't get a lengthy suspension from work just because he would be off for a few months (I didn't do it deliberately either I might add).

Our rush to beat ourselves up is mind boggling at times.

DW - I was clearly about to take a mag writing hiatus given my last one but you can have a couple of pages on this and the kangaroo court of trial by Twitter for the next one.
The technicality is that it doesn't get looked at by a panel as the ref saw it once at full speed and didn't give anything for it.

In my experience refs don't get everything right every time.  I think if it was looked at by a panel a different decision may have been made.  That's not what I would have wanted, just my opinion of what may have happened.  I appreciate you don't see it that way, but clearly lots do.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: old man villa fan on February 04, 2019, 08:36:06 PM
I think he's off more on a technicality.  The ref saw it at the time and didn't give a foul.  That's not to say that if it was reviewed after the event they wouldn't have taken a different decision (a bit like in rugby where refs often change their decision on studying the footage on field or a the citing panel after the event).

I think we're lucky, but it's great news as he could be an important player for us.

It isn't a technicality, everyone of importance accepts it is an accident. And as for the "pray/justice for Oliveira" shit from earlier then words fucking fail me. From our own fans as well.

You don't punish the injury, you punish the offence. There wasn't even an offence here.

Can I also point out that footyskillz can piss off with what I read earlier as well. I ignore his posts normally and just tolerate him being here. But given he is back into Brice Jovial mode, where he seemingly wants to complain to all and sundry with his wanking off "Zlatan", outrage at a widely available photo being posted without his consent etc. I still haven't quite recovered from him reporting me to Villa years ago and demanding the removal of my season ticket for calling him a twat on here.

What is wrong with some people these days? A few years back I snapped someone's leg in a football match between two departments at work. I didn't get a lengthy suspension from work just because he would be off for a few months (I didn't do it deliberately either I might add).

Our rush to beat ourselves up is mind boggling at times.

DW - I was clearly about to take a mag writing hiatus given my last one but you can have a couple of pages on this and the kangaroo court of trial by Twitter for the next one.
The technicality is that it doesn't get looked at by a panel as the ref saw it once at full speed and didn't give anything for it.

In my experience refs don't get everything right every time.  I think if it was looked at by a panel a different decision may have been made.  That's not what I would have wanted, just my opinion of what may have happened.  I appreciate you don't see it that way, but clearly lots do.

You start doing that and you undermine the authority of the referee and that is the last thing the FA want to do.  How often do you see players deliberately use their elbow in a violent manner, the ref half see it and the FA do nothing at all.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 04, 2019, 08:37:29 PM
I think he's off more on a technicality.  The ref saw it at the time and didn't give a foul.  That's not to say that if it was reviewed after the event they wouldn't have taken a different decision (a bit like in rugby where refs often change their decision on studying the footage on field or a the citing panel after the event).

I think we're lucky, but it's great news as he could be an important player for us.

It isn't a technicality, everyone of importance accepts it is an accident. And as for the "pray/justice for Oliveira" shit from earlier then words fucking fail me. From our own fans as well.

You don't punish the injury, you punish the offence. There wasn't even an offence here.

Can I also point out that footyskillz can piss off with what I read earlier as well. I ignore his posts normally and just tolerate him being here. But given he is back into Brice Jovial mode, where he seemingly wants to complain to all and sundry with his wanking off "Zlatan", outrage at a widely available photo being posted without his consent etc. I still haven't quite recovered from him reporting me to Villa years ago and demanding the removal of my season ticket for calling him a twat on here.

What is wrong with some people these days? A few years back I snapped someone's leg in a football match between two departments at work. I didn't get a lengthy suspension from work just because he would be off for a few months (I didn't do it deliberately either I might add).

Our rush to beat ourselves up is mind boggling at times.

DW - I was clearly about to take a mag writing hiatus given my last one but you can have a couple of pages on this and the kangaroo court of trial by Twitter for the next one.
The technicality is that it doesn't get looked at by a panel as the ref saw it once at full speed and didn't give anything for it.

In my experience refs don't get everything right every time.  I think if it was looked at by a panel a different decision may have been made.  That's not what I would have wanted, just my opinion of what may have happened.  I appreciate you don't see it that way, but clearly lots do.

If refs don't get everything right every time then let's have a panel looking at every decision in every match and changing every one they don't agree with. Or alternatively, accept that football is a contact sport played by professional sportsmen who are bigger, quicker and stronger than they've ever been, accidents happen and unfortunately so does moral outrage. 
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: chrisw1 on February 04, 2019, 08:52:46 PM
Itís not moral outrage Dave, itís just saying if it was looked at by a panel I think he may have got a ban.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: hilts_coolerking on February 04, 2019, 08:57:43 PM
Isn't all this a bit OTT?  I mean, he never got banned did he?  As far as we know he never even got close to being banned.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: chrisw1 on February 04, 2019, 09:14:27 PM
Itís just a few people discussing a football incident on a football forum.  I think weíre all relieved thereís no further action.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: brian green on February 04, 2019, 09:21:20 PM
The other factor in sport that is too frequently overlooked is luck.  Blind chance.  Last year in the Tour de France on a fast descent Chris Froome got crowded to the very edge of a country road.  He hit a concrete post somersaulting harmlessly into a cornfield.  One metre further down the road he would have hit a five strand barbed wire fence at 30 mph and he would have needed more stitching than the Bayeux Tapestry.  So much is luck.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: passport1 on February 04, 2019, 09:30:52 PM
Perfectly legit ,well it would be if this was 1970 and it was Norman Hunter doing the stamping.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: brian green on February 04, 2019, 09:36:58 PM
What stamping was that?  I must have missed it.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: paul_e on February 04, 2019, 09:37:44 PM
The thing that's annoying me about this is the near constant use of the word stamp when people want to talk about it, as if they've never seen anyone actually stamp in their entire life. I can live with trod/tread which is far more accurate but anyone saying stamp has already decided it was deliberate and is intentionally trying to make it sound clearly so.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Fred Crump on February 04, 2019, 09:42:48 PM
The thing that's annoying me about this is the near constant use of the word stamp when people want to talk about it, as if they've never seen anyone actually stamp in their entire life. I can live with trod/tread which is far more accurate but anyone saying stamp has already decided it was deliberate and is intentionally trying to make it sound clearly so.

Exactly. Roy Keane on Gareth Southgate. Now that was a stamp
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on February 04, 2019, 09:58:36 PM
Apparently itís the top news story with Huw Edwards at 10 tonight.  Itís live from Reading.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Brassneck on February 04, 2019, 10:54:08 PM
The thing that's annoying me about this is the near constant use of the word stamp when people want to talk about it, as if they've never seen anyone actually stamp in their entire life. I can live with trod/tread which is far more accurate but anyone saying stamp has already decided it was deliberate and is intentionally trying to make it sound clearly so.

Exactly. Roy Keane on Gareth Southgate. Now that was a stamp

Or Fredricks on Grealish
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Legion on February 04, 2019, 10:55:39 PM
Penny on Black was atrocious.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Brassneck on February 04, 2019, 10:59:16 PM
Fredricks one is described as a "stomp" on YT.  I'm sure there's an old song in there somewhere.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: The Edge on February 05, 2019, 04:38:11 AM
Perfectly legit ,well it would be if this was 1970 and it was Norman Hunter doing the stamping.
Bullshit. Fredericks on Grealish? THAT was a stamp. Keane on Haaland?THAT was a stamp etc etc. Mings stumbled over Oliviera's legs and his foot had to land somewhere. Could he have avoided his face? That's the milllion dollar question here. Only Mings can answer that. He immediately showed his concern and gave Oliviera his best wishes for a speedy recovery. Did Fredericks do that? No. Did Keane do that? No. I think that tells a story right there unless you think Mings is a calculating liar as well as a violent thug.The witch hunt needs to stop.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: themossman on February 05, 2019, 08:15:20 AM
Imagine if he accidentally trod on someoneís face on Friday.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: CT on February 05, 2019, 08:22:31 AM
Imagine if he accidentally trod on someoneís face on Friday.

During the day or actually at the game? 😉
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: brian green on February 05, 2019, 08:25:18 AM
Law on Deakin.  That was a stamp.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: dave shelley on February 05, 2019, 08:30:08 AM
Law on Deakin.  That was a stamp.

That was along time ago Brian.  As I recall Law didn't stamp on Deakin at all, he wiped his fucking feet on him!  I can still see it now, disgraceful.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: brian green on February 05, 2019, 08:52:12 AM
Point is too, Dave, it never discouraged the media from making Law a Citeh and Man Ure golden boy.  Dirty bastard.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on February 05, 2019, 08:55:59 AM
What about Mary Poppins kicking Neil Lennon in the face and getting away with it because England didnít want him to miss the World Cup in France?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: brian green on February 05, 2019, 09:10:14 AM
The very same Ms Poppins also tangled with Villa player on the ground beside the goal, over the by line but I cannot remember which player.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: TheMalandro on February 05, 2019, 09:11:40 AM
Le Tissier has made the valid point that if it had been Ming's child on the floor, he would have found a way not to stamp on his head.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on February 05, 2019, 09:15:17 AM
The very same Ms Poppins also tangled with Villa player on the ground beside the goal, over the by line but I cannot remember which player.

Totally forgot about Smoky nearly blinding Ugo
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Dr Butler on February 05, 2019, 09:17:17 AM
just remembered seeing this about Law and Alan Deakin awhile ago...

https://www.avfc.co.uk/on-this-day/11/16/1960%20-%201969/villa-4-man-united-0

UTV
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Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Scratchins on February 05, 2019, 09:19:54 AM
I do
Le Tissier has made the valid point that if it had been Ming's child on the floor, he would have found a way not to stamp on his head.
I don't think that really follows. My neighbour, who's job it is to save lives, hit his child whilst reversing on the drive when the lad ran out and he didn't have time to stop.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: andyh on February 05, 2019, 09:20:33 AM
Le Tissier has made the valid point that if it had been Ming's child on the floor, he would have found a way not to stamp on his head.
Sorry, but that is one one of the shittest analogies I have ever heard.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Chinchilla Bathhouse on February 05, 2019, 09:20:45 AM
What about Mary Poppins kicking Neil Lennon in the face and getting away with it because England didnít want him to miss the World Cup in France?

Poppins apparently threatened to pull out of the World Cup squad if they dared to ban him. Mustn't forget that important second layer of shithousery from England's hero.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on February 05, 2019, 09:25:13 AM
What about Mary Poppins kicking Neil Lennon in the face and getting away with it because England didnít want him to miss the World Cup in France?

Poppins apparently threatened to pull out of the World Cup squad if they dared to ban him. Mustn't forget that important second layer of shithousery from England's hero.

I hated him. Every time we played against him he had the run of the penalty area with the ref tucked in his pocket. When was this dirty bastardís history re-written?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: PeterWithe on February 05, 2019, 09:32:03 AM
Le Tissier has made the valid point that if it had been Ming's child on the floor, he would have found a way not to stamp on his head.

Why would his child be playing up front for Reading?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: TheMalandro on February 05, 2019, 09:33:51 AM
I do
Le Tissier has made the valid point that if it had been Ming's child on the floor, he would have found a way not to stamp on his head.
I don't think that really follows. My neighbour, who's job it is to save lives, hit his child whilst reversing on the drive when the lad ran out and he didn't have time to stop.

Sounds like he did it on purpose.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: PeterWithe on February 05, 2019, 09:35:12 AM
Put it on Twitter and see what they think, then we can hopefully hang him
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: TheMalandro on February 05, 2019, 09:39:52 AM
Put it on Twitter and see what they think, then we can hopefully hang him

It's the only sensible thing to do.

Whats quite telling, is the Reading messageboard thread after the game. There is hardly a mention until the picture is shown.

I've watched it numerous times and I have no idea if he did it on purpose, but I'll go with the reaction of the players and referee.
Nobody thought it was violent.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: auntiesledd on February 05, 2019, 09:42:27 AM
Le Tissier has made the valid point that if it had been Ming's child on the floor, he would have found a way not to stamp on his head.

Why would his child be playing up front for Reading?

They're desperate for forwards after their star man was trodden on?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Chris Smith on February 05, 2019, 10:07:17 AM
Le Tissier has made the valid point that if it had been Ming's child on the floor, he would have found a way not to stamp on his head.
Sorry, but that is one one of the shittest analogies I have ever heard.

It really is.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Dazvillain on February 05, 2019, 10:11:23 AM
Itís happened, injuries were nasty. It was spotted by the ref without action . There is no retrospective action by governing body.
Please can we move on and carry the thread like it started , good signing, best player in poor team effort on debut, good balance to defence who can play in a couple of positions, height will be another good asset at set plays attacking and defending type stuff......
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Chinchilla Bathhouse on February 05, 2019, 10:35:35 AM
Put it on Twitter and see what they think, then we can hopefully hang him

It's the only sensible thing to do.

Whats quite telling, is the Reading messageboard thread after the game. There is hardly a mention until the picture is shown.

I've watched it numerous times and I have no idea if he did it on purpose, but I'll go with the reaction of the players and referee.
Nobody thought it was violent.

That's exactly what I've been banging on about.  At the time it happened it was treated like any other injury and the game continued with no further comment on it.  There was no sense of injustice.  It only became a vicious assault when the photo was published. 
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Mortimer's Bear on February 05, 2019, 10:40:32 AM
Le Tissier has made the valid point that if it had been Ming's child on the floor, he would have found a way not to stamp on his head.

He wrote that in direct response to me, it was after I asked him his thoughts after he waded in on a twitter spat I was having with Darren Huckerby, you gotta love the internet.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: luke95 on February 05, 2019, 10:42:09 AM
The question should be asked ... Why didn't Nelson move his head out of the way as he clearly saw Mings foot coming his way .
Looking to get a fellow pro sent off, bad form that should be an instant red card & 10 game ban .
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: TheMalandro on February 05, 2019, 10:45:42 AM
What about Mary Poppins kicking Neil Lennon in the face and getting away with it because England didnít want him to miss the World Cup in France?

Poppins apparently threatened to pull out of the World Cup squad if they dared to ban him. Mustn't forget that important second layer of shithousery from England's hero.

I hated him. Every time we played against him he had the run of the penalty area with the ref tucked in his pocket. When was this dirty bastardís history re-written?

I'm getting sick of the Poppins abuse. She may be racist but I think she's hot.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: The Edge on February 05, 2019, 12:30:24 PM
Le Tissier has made the valid point that if it had been Ming's child on the floor, he would have found a way not to stamp on his head.
Sorry but how is that a valid point? It's a clear attempt at playing on peoples basic emotions just to try and look clever and manipulate a witch hunt against one of our players. They're saying on talksport that Oliviera's wife has said it was deliberate so Mings should be charged with assault. I mean honestly come on people get a fuckin grip. There's not a chance that any guilt can be reliably attached to Mings. It's a contact sport played at high speed and with total commitment. Shit like this happens. It was not malicious in my view. Think about this, if Tyrone was a nippy little player like Vardy for instance, he may have been able move like the proverbial slippery eel and take evasive action. But he's not he's a fuckin great lump of a man. A better analogy would be "it's like expecting a double decker bus to handle like a sports car"
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Legion on February 05, 2019, 12:41:12 PM
I don't think TheMalandro is being entirely serious.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: The Edge on February 05, 2019, 12:46:18 PM
I don't think TheMalandro is being entirely serious.
Damn. After i went to all that effort!
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Somniloquism on February 05, 2019, 12:55:54 PM
Everyone is stating his previous against Zlatan. He got a five match ban. Does anyone know what Zlatan got for his throw, two "accidental" elbows and his attempted stamp?

Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on February 05, 2019, 01:10:21 PM
https://www.football.london/reading-fc/ex-reading-fc-striker-dave-15782510

Where do you even start with this?  He wants us to use VAR even though it doesnít exist yet. And wants to change the FA rules just for this incident.

Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: avfcpg on February 05, 2019, 01:15:45 PM
All this "he's got previous" crap does my head in....pretty sure Glen Whelan had a good game once years ago, but hardly makes him Zidane if he manages to have another good game..don't remember the calls for a ban for what was a very deliberate stamp in the play offs...oh and vs Brentford...
   
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: pooligan on February 05, 2019, 01:18:38 PM
Every man and his dog seems to have it in for Tyrone Mings .I have just heard that nobody Michael Gray on Talkshite telling us that he is sure Mings could have avoided the collision .What a load of bollocks,only Mings knows if he meant it or not .As for the comments of Kitson ,what else would you expect from a ex Reading player.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: tomd2103 on February 05, 2019, 01:26:53 PM
I may be looking at it through claret and blue tinted vision, but I don't see it as being deliberate.  Mints was off balance, didn't deliberately change the course of his movement and didn't bring his foot up in a deliberate stamping action. 

The seriousness of an injury is always going to magnify coverage about a challenge and questions about intent will be raised as a result.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: The Charmer on February 05, 2019, 01:34:45 PM
https://www.football.london/reading-fc/ex-reading-fc-striker-dave-15782510

Where do you even start with this?  He wants us to use VAR even though it doesnít exist yet. And wants to change the FA rules just for this incident.


'His column in The Sun', you say?
Fuck me, I'd better change my opinion then.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: themossman on February 05, 2019, 01:38:15 PM
https://www.football.london/reading-fc/ex-reading-fc-striker-dave-15782510

Where do you even start with this?  He wants us to use VAR even though it doesnít exist yet. And wants to change the FA rules just for this incident.

Football journalism is so stuffed with over promoted thick as pig shit ex players, you're always going to get this man down the pub level bollocks. Who cares?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: darren woolley on February 05, 2019, 01:43:11 PM
It was an accident as far as I can see but his overall performance was very good looking forward to seeing him again in our defence looks solid and I like him.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Rigadon on February 05, 2019, 02:07:52 PM
https://www.football.london/reading-fc/ex-reading-fc-striker-dave-15782510

Where do you even start with this?  He wants us to use VAR even though it doesnít exist yet. And wants to change the FA rules just for this incident.

Football journalism is so stuffed with over promoted thick as pig shit ex players, you're always going to get this man down the pub level bollocks. Who cares?

"At the end of March Iím being inducted in to the club's hall of fame and thatís largely for our 2005/06 season in which we broke almost every landmark that had ever stood in the Championship."

And there you have it.  Stick your massively biased / attention seeking opinion up your arse.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Dr Butler on February 05, 2019, 02:12:38 PM
https://www.football.london/reading-fc/ex-reading-fc-striker-dave-15782510

Where do you even start with this?  He wants us to use VAR even though it doesnít exist yet. And wants to change the FA rules just for this incident.

Football journalism is so stuffed with over promoted thick as pig shit ex players, you're always going to get this man down the pub level bollocks. Who cares?

"At the end of March Iím being inducted in to the club's hall of fame and thatís largely for our 2005/06 season in which we broke almost every landmark that had ever stood in the Championship."

And there you have it.  Stick your massively biased / attention seeking opinion up your arse.

and this...

"We won the league with an incredible record of 106 points and, so far as I remember, we did it without having to stamp on a single person's face."

what a twat

UTV
The Doc
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: The Edge on February 05, 2019, 02:36:16 PM
Everyone is stating his previous against Zlatan. He got a five match ban. Does anyone know what Zlatan got for his throw, two "accidental" elbows and his attempted stamp?


Probably the sky man of the match award for standing up to that big bully Tyrone Mings.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: paul_e on February 05, 2019, 02:42:44 PM
and the word stamp is still being used everywhere, fucking morons, even if it was intentional it's not a fucking stamp.

There's plenty of examples of stamps in football and rugby (you can find loads of incidents on youtube) and there's a very clear, and deliberate, forceful movement involved in stamping which isn't there in this case. The truth is that he trod on his face, people can argue all they like about whether he could of avoided doing so, and that's a reasonable debate to be had (despite my view that there's not much he could've done to avoid him if you watch it in real time) but anyone who uses the word stamp should have their opinion ignored because they're deliberately trying to sensationalise the story.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on February 05, 2019, 02:43:24 PM
Drink driving Dave Kitson who once admitted trying to attack Tony Pulis with a pair of scissors and who suggested that Raheem Sterling incited the racial hatred that was hurled at him by Chelsea fans? That Dave Kitson?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: PeterWithe on February 05, 2019, 02:47:21 PM
Michael Gray was the bloke who, when he got relegated with Sunderland, turned up for training in a new £150k Ferrari, on the same day half the staff there were receiving their redundancy notices.

His judgement could be a little bit suspect.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: LeeB on February 05, 2019, 02:53:14 PM
Michael Gray could talk for hours and hours and not say one
thing worth listening to.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: paul_e on February 05, 2019, 03:01:02 PM
Michael Gray was the bloke who, when he got relegated with Sunderland, turned up for training in a new £150k Ferrari, on the same day half the staff there were receiving their redundancy notices.

His judgement could be a little bit suspect.

Michael Gray is the guy who tried to chat my wife up in a bar and when she told him she wasn't interested he said that she clearly didn't know he was because he could "have any pussy I want in this place" and when she responded with "except mine" called her a stupid fucking bitch and tried to get her thrown out by telling the bouncers she was underage (she was 18 at the time).
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Dave P on February 05, 2019, 03:01:47 PM
Drink driving Dave Kitson who once admitted trying to attack Tony Pulis with a pair of scissors and who suggested that Raheem Sterling incited the racial hatred that was hurled at him by Chelsea fans? That Dave Kitson?

Dave Kitson who, when saying Sterling brings on the racial hatred himself by self absorbed instagram posts forgot he posted these  https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/dave-kitson-instagram-raheem-sterling-talksport/.  That Dave Kitson?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: VILLA MOLE on February 05, 2019, 03:07:59 PM
Michael Gray was the bloke who, when he got relegated with Sunderland, turned up for training in a new £150k Ferrari, on the same day half the staff there were receiving their redundancy notices.

His judgement could be a little bit suspect.

Michael Gray is the guy who tried to chat my wife up in a bar and when she told him she wasn't interested he said that she clearly didn't know he was because he could "have any pussy I want in this place" and when she responded with "except mine" called her a stupid fucking bitch and tried to get her thrown out by telling the bouncers she was underage (she was 18 at the time).


wow he sounds a right James Bond ,
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 05, 2019, 03:18:23 PM
Drink driving Dave Kitson who once admitted trying to attack Tony Pulis with a pair of scissors and who suggested that Raheem Sterling incited the racial hatred that was hurled at him by Chelsea fans? That Dave Kitson?

And as a result guess which player pulled out of a Talksport interview with him???
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on February 05, 2019, 03:24:55 PM
Drink driving Dave Kitson who once admitted trying to attack Tony Pulis with a pair of scissors and who suggested that Raheem Sterling incited the racial hatred that was hurled at him by Chelsea fans? That Dave Kitson?

And as a result guess which player pulled out of a Talksport interview with him???

Heís obviously a man with a grudge
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Chinchilla Bathhouse on February 05, 2019, 03:36:28 PM
Drink driving Dave Kitson who once admitted trying to attack Tony Pulis with a pair of scissors and who suggested that Raheem Sterling incited the racial hatred that was hurled at him by Chelsea fans? That Dave Kitson?

And as a result guess which player pulled out of a Talksport interview with him???

Aha.  I did not know that.  Now that is interesting...
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: TheMalandro on February 05, 2019, 03:37:02 PM
I've just realised, I've always thought Dave Kitson was the guy from Derby County but that was Paul.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Risso on February 05, 2019, 03:46:12 PM
Wasn't it Dave Kitson who got a right royal mard on, when Reading fans had the idea of all wearing ginger wigs on "Ginger Day' to support their ginger twat of a player?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: john e on February 05, 2019, 03:54:37 PM
All this "he's got previous" crap does my head in....pretty sure Glen Whelan had a good game once years ago, but hardly makes him Zidane if he manages to have another good game..don't remember the calls for a ban for what was a very deliberate stamp in the play offs...oh and vs Brentford...
   

Nah donít think he did mate
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Mister E on February 05, 2019, 03:55:03 PM
Wasn't it Dave Kitson who got a right royal mard on, when Reading fans had the idea of all wearing ginger wigs on "Ginger Day' to support their ginger twat of a player?
Steve Sidwell, you mean? 😁
Wasnít Dave Kitson the mystery footballer?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Hookeysmith on February 05, 2019, 06:22:51 PM
Michael Gray could talk for hours and hours and not say one
thing worth listening to.


But he is obviously intelligent- you only have took at his glasses to see that
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: footyskillz on February 05, 2019, 06:29:56 PM
It's the lack of a hop, skip or jump in trying to step away that gets me.
And that this is a repeat offense

If he was playing for Reading and did this to Tammy Abraham then majority would be saying he should be banned.

Why would all these ex players and refs be saying he should be banned ? Are they all wrong ??

As yes it's people's interpretation of the incident , however those that play the game would know that seemed little concerted effort to step out the way.

I not liking all these doubled standard and blinkered opinions coming up on this thread.


Let's accept what he did was wrong and that hopefully he can learn to be more sporting

People have dismissed any view that remotely suggest it could have been deliberate either by the ex footballers and refs that play the  game and even by Oliveira wife.

Oliveria wife has made her comments and people have dismissed it.

Lack of compassion and sporting appreciation is shocking on here.

Really no need for so much dismissiveness
And should be thanking that Mings has got away with this act.

Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 05, 2019, 06:33:22 PM
It's the lack of a hop, skip or jump in trying to step away that gets me.
And that this is a repeat offense

If he was playing for Reading and did this then majority would be saying he should be banned.

Why would all these ex players and refs be saying he should be banned .

As yes it's people's interpretation of the incident , however those that play the game would know that there was a concerted effort to step out the way.




It's not a repeat offence. It's not an offence at all. And I couldn't care less what a couple of attention-seeking former players trying to earn a few quid out of some manufactured outrage think.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Ads on February 05, 2019, 06:38:29 PM
He does hop on his left foot, twice. He has to put his right foot down.

It is not a repeat offence, as no offence has been committed.

You don't know what anybody would be saying. Utter, baseless conjecture.

Twitter is a platform for those seeking instant gratification in a black or white, worst ever or best ever society. Devoid of thinking, if you were to read comments on social media as a bellwether, then we're surely and quite rightly doomed as a species.

Tyrone Mings plays the game. He knows the impossibility of defying the laws if physics in a split second. He says it was an accident. I'd rather listen to him than drunk driving fools or absolute no marks.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: footyskillz on February 05, 2019, 06:39:23 PM
Repeat incident then
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: footyskillz on February 05, 2019, 06:41:21 PM
He does hop on his left foot, twice. He has to put his right foot down.

It is not a repeat offence, as no offence has been committed.

You don't know what anybody would be saying. Utter, baseless conjecture.

Twitter is a platform for those seeking instant gratification in a black or white, worst ever or best ever society. Devoid of thinking, if you were to read comments on social media as a bellwether, then we're surely and quite rightly doomed as a species.

Tyrone Mings plays the game. He knows the impossibility of defying the laws if physics in a split second. He says it was an accident. I'd rather listen to him than drunk driving fools or absolute no marks.

Ok well as long as you would take that view if he had did it to Tammy Abraham when playing for Reading
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Ads on February 05, 2019, 06:41:46 PM
What does it matter what his wife thinks? She's upset at the consequences as her husband has been hurt. What that's got to do with the accident I have no idea.

So why in earth would people think what he's done is wrong.

Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Ads on February 05, 2019, 06:44:27 PM
He does hop on his left foot, twice. He has to put his right foot down.

It is not a repeat offence, as no offence has been committed.

You don't know what anybody would be saying. Utter, baseless conjecture.

Twitter is a platform for those seeking instant gratification in a black or white, worst ever or best ever society. Devoid of thinking, if you were to read comments on social media as a bellwether, then we're surely and quite rightly doomed as a species.

Tyrone Mings plays the game. He knows the impossibility of defying the laws if physics in a split second. He says it was an accident. I'd rather listen to him than drunk driving fools or absolute no marks.

Ok well as long as you would take that view if he had did it to Tammy Abraham when playing for Reading

Ok. But he hasn't done it to Tammy. But just in case he rides onto the pitch with trusty a white Arbain thoroughbred and runs a player through with his favourite jousting lance while shouting huzzah, I'll remember to condemn him in the strongest possible terms.

You're just upset because he twatted Ibrahimovich.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: dave shelley on February 05, 2019, 06:44:56 PM
It's the lack of a hop, skip or jump in trying to step away that gets me.
And that this is a repeat offense

If he was playing for Reading and did this then majority would be saying he should be banned.

Why would all these ex players and refs be saying he should be banned .

As yes it's people's interpretation of the incident , however those that play the game would know that there was a concerted effort to step out the way.




Footy, let me explain it to you like this: I am an ex-referee who officiated at a relatively high standard.  I have viewed this incident just the once the same as the referee on the day, and that was deliberately so as to have an objective view.  As I have posted previously had I been the referee on Saturday I would have seen the incident exactly the way I imagine the match referee saw it and carried on playing.  The only reason I would have stopped play would be when my attention was drawn to the fact that there was  possibility  a serious injury.  It was unfortunate for the Reading player but Mings was blameless, I've seen and dealt with a lot worse.  I'm particularly clever but one thing I do know is that I was a fairly decent referee, I have awards for it.  It's really time to let it go.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: footyskillz on February 05, 2019, 06:50:15 PM
It's the lack of a hop, skip or jump in trying to step away that gets me.
And that this is a repeat offense

If he was playing for Reading and did this then majority would be saying he should be banned.

Why would all these ex players and refs be saying he should be banned .

As yes it's people's interpretation of the incident , however those that play the game would know that there was a concerted effort to step out the way.




Footy, let me explain it to you like this: I am an ex-referee who officiated at a relatively high standard.  I have viewed this incident just the once the same as the referee on the day, and that was deliberately so as to have an objective view.  As I have posted previously had I been the referee on Saturday I would have seen the incident exactly the way I imagine the match referee saw it and carried on playing.  The only reason I would have stopped play would be when my attention was drawn to the fact that there was  possibility  a serious injury.  It was unfortunate for the Reading player but Mings was blameless, I've seen and dealt with a lot worse.  I'm particularly clever but one thing I do know is that I was a fairly decent referee, I have awards for it.  It's really time to let it go.

Yes I let it go just responding to all the stuff I read on here.
No worries here.
I respect your response
As I say he wouldn't get a character reference in court as he is a repeat offender.
But ok I hear what your interpretation and I will let go.
I felt I needed to respond or bite to what I think were some quite stony-hearted responses to a man having his face smashed.

But yes. No more from me on this matter.
Cheers Dave Good to hear your refs view and consideration to matter based on your undoubtedly experience and that's good enough from me to accept that it could have been an accident .
Thanks.

Up the villa.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: b23 on February 05, 2019, 06:50:50 PM
His name is an anagram of My ringtones.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Legion on February 05, 2019, 06:51:56 PM
Grimy Tonnes
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Legion on February 05, 2019, 06:52:29 PM
My Stone Grin
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: footyskillz on February 05, 2019, 06:55:06 PM
He does hop on his left foot, twice. He has to put his right foot down.

It is not a repeat offence, as no offence has been committed.

You don't know what anybody would be saying. Utter, baseless conjecture.

Twitter is a platform for those seeking instant gratification in a black or white, worst ever or best ever society. Devoid of thinking, if you were to read comments on social media as a bellwether, then we're surely and quite rightly doomed as a species.

Tyrone Mings plays the game. He knows the impossibility of defying the laws if physics in a split second. He says it was an accident. I'd rather listen to him than drunk driving fools or absolute no marks.

Ok well as long as you would take that view if he had did it to Tammy Abraham when playing for Reading

Ok. But he hasn't done it to Tammy. But just in case he rides onto the pitch with trusty a white Arbain thoroughbred and runs a player through with his favourite jousting lance while shouting huzzah, I'll remember to condemn him in the strongest possible terms.

You're just upset because he twatted Ibrahimovich.

You're so medieval!
Fair do I get all your points so no more from me on this.
Just needed to voice my views.
Cheers adsy !
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: footyskillz on February 05, 2019, 06:55:48 PM
His name is an anagram of My ringtones.

Brilliant !!
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: dave shelley on February 05, 2019, 07:00:10 PM
It's the lack of a hop, skip or jump in trying to step away that gets me.
And that this is a repeat offense

If he was playing for Reading and did this then majority would be saying he should be banned.

Why would all these ex players and refs be saying he should be banned .

As yes it's people's interpretation of the incident , however those that play the game would know that there was a concerted effort to step out the way.




Footy, let me explain it to you like this: I am an ex-referee who officiated at a relatively high standard.  I have viewed this incident just the once the same as the referee on the day, and that was deliberately so as to have an objective view.  As I have posted previously had I been the referee on Saturday I would have seen the incident exactly the way I imagine the match referee saw it and carried on playing.  The only reason I would have stopped play would be when my attention was drawn to the fact that there was  possibility  a serious injury.  It was unfortunate for the Reading player but Mings was blameless, I've seen and dealt with a lot worse.  I'm particularly clever but one thing I do know is that I was a fairly decent referee, I have awards for it.  It's really time to let it go.

Yes I let it go just responding to all the stuff I read on here.
No worries here.
I respect your response
As I say he wouldn't get a character reference in court as he is a repeat offender.
But ok I hear what your interpretation and I will let go.
I felt I needed to respond or bite to what I think were some quite stony-hearted responses to a man having his face smashed.

But yes. No more from me on this matter.
Cheers Dave Good to hear your refs view and consideration to matter based on your undoubtedly experience and that's good enough from me to accept that it could have been an accident .
Thanks.

Up the villa.

Glad to be of help and, despite proof reading my note before posting the highlighted bit should have read, ' I'm not particularly clever'.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: LukeJames on February 05, 2019, 07:05:29 PM
Tyrone Deon Mings

Trod on enemy.... Sing
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: footyskillz on February 05, 2019, 07:28:56 PM
It's the lack of a hop, skip or jump in trying to step away that gets me.
And that this is a repeat offense

If he was playing for Reading and did this then majority would be saying he should be banned.

Why would all these ex players and refs be saying he should be banned .

As yes it's people's interpretation of the incident , however those that play the game would know that there was a concerted effort to step out the way.




Footy, let me explain it to you like this: I am an ex-referee who officiated at a relatively high standard.  I have viewed this incident just the once the same as the referee on the day, and that was deliberately so as to have an objective view.  As I have posted previously had I been the referee on Saturday I would have seen the incident exactly the way I imagine the match referee saw it and carried on playing.  The only reason I would have stopped play would be when my attention was drawn to the fact that there was  possibility  a serious injury.  It was unfortunate for the Reading player but Mings was blameless, I've seen and dealt with a lot worse.  I'm particularly clever but one thing I do know is that I was a fairly decent referee, I have awards for it.  It's really time to let it go.

Yes I let it go just responding to all the stuff I read on here.
No worries here.
I respect your response
As I say he wouldn't get a character reference in court as he is a repeat offender.
But ok I hear what your interpretation and I will let go.
I felt I needed to respond or bite to what I think were some quite stony-hearted responses to a man having his face smashed.

But yes. No more from me on this matter.
Cheers Dave Good to hear your refs view and consideration to matter based on your undoubtedly experience and that's good enough from me to accept that it could have been an accident .
Thanks.

Up the villa.

Glad to be of help and, despite proof reading my note before posting the highlighted bit should have read, ' I'm not particularly clever'.

Well I read it as clever and being self aware so respected the intelligence !?

Haha all good.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: paul_e on February 05, 2019, 07:50:10 PM
Footy, the main problem here is that it's really hard to find footage of this played in real time, if you see it at that speed it looks like an accident. If you see the 2 frames a second super slo-mo version that's being shared on the internet then it looks much worse because it tricks you into thinking he had time to react. Oliveira fell into him and he tries to skip out of the way with his left and then, when he can't regain his balance, tries to place his right foot where he won't stand on an outstretched arm.

I've played a fair bit of rugby and, like Mings, I'm a fairly awkward looking player. In my personal experience if someone falls into you like that your biggest concerns are to not land on their back, to avoid their arms and to try to not let your heels flick up (as that's where you expect their head to be going).

The truth is any contact sport will sometimes have nasty accidents, Oliveira will have a bit of pain and a couple of interesting scars but he'll be playing again in a couple of weeks. I feel sorry for him, but other players have been hurt far more seriously and it's purely the grizzly looking photos that have made this an on-going story.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: brian green on February 05, 2019, 07:59:04 PM
An accident is an accident.  What happened between Cleverly and Jack is a case in point.  In the split second of a sporting accident a quicker response might result in a worse outcome.  Suppose Tyrone had bent his leg to avoid boot into face but his knee had hit  and crushed Oliviera's trachea?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Newby on February 05, 2019, 08:23:43 PM
He will have scars.  Ryan Mason has lost his career.  Oliviera's career is safe.  It was an accident.

Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: colin69 on February 05, 2019, 08:51:14 PM
Iíve watched it a number of times, sometimes I think itís an accident and sometimes I donít. Itís a tough one to call, but one thing I do know it aint a stamp.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on February 05, 2019, 09:06:05 PM
I really am about to lose my shit here.  So I think I need a break.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: PeterWithe on February 05, 2019, 09:35:26 PM
I really am about to lose my shit here.  So I think I need a break.

Is that another anogram?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on February 05, 2019, 09:41:58 PM
Only if it spells skillzfooty
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: brian green on February 05, 2019, 10:25:32 PM
Skillzfooty offence alert.

Many years ago a very promising Doncaster centre forward  called Derek Dooley broke his leg during a game.  One of his leg bones pierced his skin and became contaminated with soil.  He developed septicemia and had to have his leg amputated.  That WAS a nasty accident.  I do not recall blame ever being mentioned.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: footyskillz on February 05, 2019, 11:54:21 PM
Footy, the main problem here is that it's really hard to find footage of this played in real time, if you see it at that speed it looks like an accident. If you see the 2 frames a second super slo-mo version that's being shared on the internet then it looks much worse because it tricks you into thinking he had time to react. Oliveira fell into him and he tries to skip out of the way with his left and then, when he can't regain his balance, tries to place his right foot where he won't stand on an outstretched arm.

I've played a fair bit of rugby and, like Mings, I'm a fairly awkward looking player. In my personal experience if someone falls into you like that your biggest concerns are to not land on their back, to avoid their arms and to try to not let your heels flick up (as that's where you expect their head to be going).

The truth is any contact sport will sometimes have nasty accidents, Oliveira will have a bit of pain and a couple of interesting scars but he'll be playing again in a couple of weeks. I feel sorry for him, but other players have been hurt far more seriously and it's purely the grizzly looking photos that have made this an on-going story.

Ok points taken.
I've made mine and you yours and can certainly get where you're coming from and saying.

I'm a reasonable character so can see there is clearly varied opinion.
And also see people have own experience and knowledge first hand.
Also I have my own unfortunate experiences which play own factor but I do understand what youre explaining .

I won't make any more comments on this only address a couple more things.
Thanks for addressing though.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: footyskillz on February 05, 2019, 11:58:48 PM
I really am about to lose my shit here.  So I think I need a break.

Kippax I totally respect you on here and maybe there is varying opinions and I like to state and respond to things however I won't make any more comments in regards to this matter and get that their are complete different thoughts and feelings on the incident to how I was interpreting it.

All good ok.
Please accept we have different opinion and I have strong views on this matter but as I say I'm not making more comments
And certainly don't want you losing your shit and breaking away.
Thanks and I hope we can just understand we see things differently.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: footyskillz on February 06, 2019, 12:02:00 AM
It's the lack of a hop, skip or jump in trying to step away that gets me.
And that this is a repeat offense

If he was playing for Reading and did this then majority would be saying he should be banned.

Why would all these ex players and refs be saying he should be banned .

As yes it's people's interpretation of the incident , however those that play the game would know that there was a concerted effort to step out the way.




It's not a repeat offence. It's not an offence at all. And I couldn't care less what a couple of attention-seeking former players trying to earn a few quid out of some manufactured outrage think.
Similar dave we see different to an extent and that others views have or have not some credibility.
No problems here.
Thanks and I can at least get that there are some  explayers commenting which can annoy you.

I'm settled and at peace all done for me on mings incident.
Thanks
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: brian green on February 06, 2019, 07:45:29 AM
I am not at peace about it at all.  We had a player on our books for one week and he was attacked and condemned out of hand by our own supporters in large numbers on a fabricated charge.  I am done with commenting on it but I shall not forget it.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Gareth on February 06, 2019, 08:24:38 AM
Footy, the main problem here is that it's really hard to find footage of this played in real time, if you see it at that speed it looks like an accident. If you see the 2 frames a second super slo-mo version that's being shared on the internet then it looks much worse because it tricks you into thinking he had time to react. Oliveira fell into him and he tries to skip out of the way with his left and then, when he can't regain his balance, tries to place his right foot where he won't stand on an outstretched arm.

Which is exactly why VAR is going to be an absolute farce for decisions of opinion rather than fact....the more you slow it down the more you can make it look how you want it to suit your opinion. 

The posting on social media of the picture of his face afterwards caused the outrage in the TalkSPORT wannabes like tw@ Kitson - suppose we have to trust that was a genuine undoctored picture :-)

Accidents happen & that was exactly what this was
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: The Edge on February 06, 2019, 08:38:12 AM
I am not at peace about it at all.  We had a player on our books for one week and he was attacked and condemned out of hand by our own supporters in large numbers on a fabricated charge.  I am done with commenting on it but I shall not forget it.
Seconded.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Ian J on February 06, 2019, 01:44:43 PM
It's the lack of a hop, skip or jump in trying to step away that gets me.
And that this is a repeat offense

If he was playing for Reading and did this then majority would be saying he should be banned.

Why would all these ex players and refs be saying he should be banned .

As yes it's people's interpretation of the incident , however those that play the game would know that there was a concerted effort to step out the way.




Footy, let me explain it to you like this: I am an ex-referee who officiated at a relatively high standard.  I have viewed this incident just the once the same as the referee on the day, and that was deliberately so as to have an objective view.  As I have posted previously had I been the referee on Saturday I would have seen the incident exactly the way I imagine the match referee saw it and carried on playing.  The only reason I would have stopped play would be when my attention was drawn to the fact that there was  possibility  a serious injury.  It was unfortunate for the Reading player but Mings was blameless, I've seen and dealt with a lot worse.  I'm particularly clever but one thing I do know is that I was a fairly decent referee, I have awards for it.  It's really time to let it go.

Yes I let it go just responding to all the stuff I read on here.
No worries here.
I respect your response
As I say he wouldn't get a character reference in court as he is a repeat offender.
But ok I hear what your interpretation and I will let go.
I felt I needed to respond or bite to what I think were some quite stony-hearted responses to a man having his face smashed.

But yes. No more from me on this matter.
Cheers Dave Good to hear your refs view and consideration to matter based on your undoubtedly experience and that's good enough from me to accept that it could have been an accident .
Thanks.

Up the villa.

Glad to be of help and, despite proof reading my note before posting the highlighted bit should have read, ' I'm not particularly clever'.

Or you was just being very modest ;)
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: chrisw1 on February 06, 2019, 01:45:03 PM
I am not at peace about it at all.  We had a player on our books for one week and he was attacked and condemned out of hand by our own supporters in large numbers on a fabricated charge.  I am done with commenting on it but I shall not forget it.
Seconded.
Condemned on a fabricated charge is a bit strong.  I've not read every page bur I haven't seen much hysterics on this thread. 

Quite a few people said it was hard to call and they thought he would probably get a ban.  I still think he would have if there was a review system in place, but am very glad he didn't.

It's just a matter of opinion on how people see the incident.   
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Hookeysmith on February 06, 2019, 02:16:27 PM
I remember nearly all our support on here condemning Taylors "challenge" on Coleman that resulted in a terrible leg break.
Most thought he was culpable and it was a really poor challenge. I am sure he did not mean to cause that much damage but you certainly run the risk if you are to tackle that recklessly and as such he was slagged off - quite rightly so - by his own supporters.

I do not think this is Villa biased with Mings it is more the fact that was he reckless? Not really as he was in the air and limited to his response to the circumstances. Had there been any previous - i am not aware of any. With the Zlatan one there clearly was so also one can assume motive.

And lets not forget Mings was the first to stop play and tell the ref and others about the injury

Not guilt m'lord
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: itmustbe_it is! on February 06, 2019, 07:18:33 PM
Might have only been here a week but he's Villa now.

I 100% think it was accidental, but if he had whipped out a chainsaw and had the bloke's legs off it's for us to offer a defence that would convince an Old Bailey jury if necessary, not add to the hysteria condemning  the bloke. All for one .....
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: mr underhill on February 06, 2019, 07:43:27 PM
you can't possibly mean that. surely? Chopping someone's legs off? Blimey.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: PeterWithe on February 06, 2019, 07:46:40 PM
Thin end of the wedge isnít it, you let him off with an accidental collision and next week heíll be smuggling forestry equipment onto the pitch
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: itmustbe_it is! on February 06, 2019, 07:54:39 PM
you can't possibly mean that. surely? Chopping someone's legs off? Blimey.

Hyperbole to make a point.

Some people on here need to find their claret and blue glasses again. Who ever decided we had to be fair and objective, this is football !
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: adrenachrome on February 07, 2019, 03:23:49 PM
Express nd Star (https://www.expressandstar.com/sport/football/aston-villa/2019/02/07/aston-villa-boss-dean-smith-tyrone-mings-victim-of-witch-hunt/)

Quote
Aston Villa boss Dean Smith: Tyrone Mings victim of 'witch hunt'

Villa boss Dean Smith believes Tyrone Mings has been the victim of a ďwitch huntĒ following the gruesome facial injury sustained by Nelson Oliveira.

By Matt Maher | Aston Villa | Published: Less than an hour ago

The Reading striker required surgery for a broken nose and facial lacerations following a collision with Villaís Mings during last weekendís 0-0 draw at the Madejski Stadium.

Though the FA did not to take any action against Mings, the on loan Bournemouth defender has faced criticism from both former players and Oliveiraís wife, who questioned why he had not been sanctioned for what she viewed as a deliberate stamp.

Mings was banned for five matches in March 2017 after being found guilty of stamping on Manchester United striker Zlatan Ibrahimovic, something he has always maintained was an accident.

And Smith, who believes the incident with Oliveira was a ďtotal accidentĒ, believes that has helped fuel the furore on social media over recent days.

He said: ďIt felt to me like it became a bit of a witch hunt for somebody who was assumed to have stamped before because he got banned by the FA.

ďNobody knows if he stamped then. But for me this was a total accident.

ďSometimes in any contact sport accidents happen and that was one of them. I am absolutely convinced (it wasnít deliberate).Ē

Dean Ashton and Dave Kitson were among the ex-players to criticise Mings, who was making his Villa debut following a deadline day switch from the Cherries.

Former referee Mark Halsey was also among those calling for the FA to take action.

Smith continued: ďPeople look at the picture of his (Oliveira's) face after and think: 'I must have a look at that incident'.

ďThey slow it down and freeze frame it.

ďAny incident in a football game, I could do the same and show you potential accidents.

ďAnyone who was at the game last week will tell you. I didnít know what had happened on the sideline. Their bench didnít appeal, nobody in the stadium appealed, none of their players appealed.

ďThe nearest person to the incident was the referee, five or six yards away. He deemed it an accident and played on.

ďThe one who stopped the play because he saw what had happened and felt what had happened was Tyrone. He stopped the game to make sure (Oliveira) was OK.Ē

Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Risso on February 07, 2019, 04:15:29 PM
Probably time to draw a line under this and move on.

Hope for another good performance and a clean sheet tomorrow night.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: footyskillz on February 07, 2019, 05:27:58 PM
For me I decided that the other day .
Usually others make their decision when they feel they want to.

I think over time mings will of course be discussed on his defending , abilities and aptitude however he has nt even played the next game and there will be a lot of footballing eyes on his temperament as much as his ability

And it's interesting what Dean Smith comments. And his own interpretation.
In fair ness I would like Jose Gomes comments on the incident .

What is interesting is his term witch hunt and social media. I wasn't on that bandwagon as such because I had flagged my concerns.
I may have been speaking and commenting with a confirmation bias as well as own personal views and experiences but I can take a lot from the 'debate and discussion' had on the subject. And also the idea and trial by media.

 I not commenting on the incident though I do re iteration how members could look to be more mindful of how they are making their views known be it on the incident or opinions of others on the incident . And accept how other people can see things .

I think it's been very useful for me to see the difference in perspective be it my own confirmation bias on Mings/Olvieria incident or others bias and support or interpretation of incident.

Risso usually that would make sense to say draw a line under things .
I do note it's an indirect request aswell as indirect language perhaps because it such a major incident.







Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: footyskillz on February 07, 2019, 05:45:26 PM
Jose Gomes reading manager on the incident .
Direct quotes said today Thursday.

Reflecting on the incident

"I must say the truth - and the truth is that from the bench during the game for me it doesn't look an intentional action.

But when I watch the pictures [replay], I have no doubt at all that it was intentional to touch Nelson's face.

After he stepped on the face, he broke the nose in four places and scars everywhere. And he's out of the pitch, he cannot train and can't play in the next match.

I cannot judge the referee because from the bench it was accidental.


The point here is the federation (the FA) cannot do anything because the referee saw it on the pitch.

But the problem is that the referee did not see it because I am sure if he watched the picture and then took a decision, the decision would be very, very tough for Mings.

We cannot judge the referee, we must help the referee and his decisions.

How can we do that - I don't know. But I know one thing - we must think about it because we are talking about football players that can get a very serious injury and nothing happens.

We could be talking about an ex player. If Mings chose to touch Nelson in his eye he could be a blind player.

We could be talking about a blind player and nothing happened.

I'm not against the referee or the federation, I'm just supporting my player and football.

It wasn't a football action, it was a different thing."

If an investigation should be done

I haven't read the match report [from the referee] but for sure the referee wrote he saw it.

It's one thing looking at something but it's another thing if he really saw what happened.

It was impossible for the referee to see what really happened. He didn't see anything - he saw the movements and the player touched somewhere but he didn't realise how dangerous Mings' action was.

So we must help the referees. How? We must think about it.


Even if he mentioned something he didn't mention the thing which happened because he didn't see it.

I don't know how we can fix this problem. It's not fair Nelson is out - he can't even breathe properly.

And with the other player, nothing happened. I think it's not fair.

If King Solomon gives justice to this then it should be he [Mings] can only play when Nelson is really ready, without anything in his face.

If rules should be changed to allow the FA more access to incidents

Something must be done because if you look at the replay - we have a very good one from our media department that you can see clearly Mings looks down.

If everybody accepts - because the ref mentioned in his report that it was a non intentional action but if you look at the replay he stepped on Nelson's face with intention.

Only two things can happen. One the federation can do something to punish Mings or if the referee saw it and didn't do anything then he must be punished.

I really believe the referee didn't see it. He saw the movement but didn't see anything strange.

It was difficult for him. Like me, we thought it was non-intentional action, but when you see the replay, there is no doubt.

But now nothing happens. It's not fair. Imagine how the player feels.

I feel frustrated with this because we cannot do anything. This is the point - it's not fair.

We should look at this as an example for the future.

The question is - we're talking about a Reading player - but if you talk about a Man Utd or Arsenal or Man City player - would it be the same thing?

The action was very ugly. It was a very tough and ugly thing.

I know that Mings did not want to damage Nelson's face in this way but he wanted to step on his face.

If you do this, you don't know what happens. He could have avoided it but he didn't.

Something should happen.

Mings having had a previous ban for stamping

This is from the past. Mings is a very good, a very fast central defender with good technique and is good with the head.

We must make a question from this. If the same thing happens tomorrow, how can we fix this? It's not correct and it's not fair.

It's not against anybody, it's about supporting football and protecting the players.

The support shown towards Oliveira

He deserves it because he's a great professional. He wanted to train and play [this weekend] but it's difficult for him.

He wanted to be on the list and in training but the doctor didn't allow it.

We'll see if we can fix him soon. But he deserves the support for the way he has been suffering this season and the way he caught this opportunity.

He's feeling at home at Reading. Everybody likes him, he's working very well and he's feeling the support everyone is giving him.

Hopefully he will recover very soon to help us again.

If other players have been affected by the clash

The players know it was intentional. You don't need to be a professional to say it was an intentional action.

The replay is clear, he looked down and could have avoided it. He let his foot back to touch his face.

All the players saw it and have helped Nelson a lot. Even before going to the hospital, he joked a bit and helped the players not to feel the condition of him.

Referee being demoted to League 2 this weekend

I cannot talk about things I don't know exactly. Maybe it was a coincidence.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Villan For Life on February 07, 2019, 05:51:12 PM
This is starting to smack of Reading trying to force through a retrospective punishment.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: VinnieChase84 on February 07, 2019, 05:58:56 PM
This is starting to smack of Reading trying to force through a retrospective punishment.

That wonít happen as would open up a huge can of worms
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: The Edge on February 07, 2019, 06:08:59 PM
Probably time to draw a line under this and move on.

Hope for another good performance and a clean sheet tomorrow night.
True but others don't agree. It's still being dragged up on talkshite. That muppet Darren Gough has said earlier that although it was obviously not deliberate Mings has got to be punished because of the"horrific injuries Oliveira suffered" What a fucking tool.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: pooligan on February 07, 2019, 06:37:53 PM
The same Darren Gough who told us England would thrash the West Indies 3-0  He knows as much about football as he does cricket A fucking tool for sure.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Ads on February 07, 2019, 06:42:27 PM
So it was an accident on the bench. But when I saw his face I jumped on the outrage bus. Bore off Gomes.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: LeeB on February 07, 2019, 06:50:45 PM
Probably time to draw a line under this and move on.

Hope for another good performance and a clean sheet tomorrow night.
True but others don't agree. It's still being dragged up on talkshite. That muppet Darren Gough has said earlier that although it was obviously not deliberate Mings has got to be punished because of the"horrific injuries Oliveira suffered" What a fucking tool.

Presumably he'd have been happy to have taken a ban for offering a batsman a bit of chin music, and the fella that sadly killed Phillip Hughes should be sent to prison?

He's a fucking clown.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Newby on February 07, 2019, 07:22:52 PM
Probably time to draw a line under this and move on.

Hope for another good performance and a clean sheet tomorrow night.
True but others don't agree. It's still being dragged up on talkshite. That muppet Darren Gough has said earlier that although it was obviously not deliberate Mings has got to be punished because of the"horrific injuries Oliveira suffered" What a fucking tool.

Presumably he'd have been happy to have taken a ban for offering a batsman a bit of chin music, and the fella that sadly killed Phillip Hughes should be sent to prison?

He's a fucking clown.

So, using Gough logic, the next time I catch my knuckles on my cheese grater, I am going to sue the company that made it.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: brian green on February 07, 2019, 07:31:44 PM
And the next time his genital hair transplanter slips and perforates his penis the writs must fly.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: gpbarr on February 07, 2019, 07:32:06 PM
Just shows how the game has become soft. I remember the game in the 70s when I was growing up - watching the likes of Tommy Smith regularly taking players out - if you didnít like it then tough - heíd be jailed if he were playing these days!

Mountain out of a mole hill.


Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: LukeJames on February 07, 2019, 07:34:27 PM
I hope he scores the winner tomorrow, the pathetic attempts to out do each other with outrage will go through the roof.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Newby on February 07, 2019, 08:02:44 PM
And the next time his genital hair transplanter slips and perforates his penis the writs must fly.

Brian, i won't tell you again, stay out of my back garden!!
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: john e on February 07, 2019, 08:36:15 PM
Darren Gough once watched me play Cricket for Newport Pagnell against Drayton Parslow a few years ago

thought Iíd share
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Newby on February 07, 2019, 08:45:32 PM
Darren Gough once watched me play Cricket for Newport Pagnell against Drayton Parslow a few years ago

thought Iíd share

He used to play football for Stewkley in the Milton Keynes area too.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: aj2k77 on February 07, 2019, 08:48:35 PM
Darren Gough, sponge bob squarepants shaped headed prick.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: thick_mike on February 07, 2019, 08:55:11 PM
Darren Gough once watched me play Cricket for Newport Pagnell against Drayton Parslow a few years ago

thought Iíd share

He used to play football for Stewkley in the Milton Keynes area too.

Blimey, thatís the next village along from me!
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Risso on February 07, 2019, 08:59:23 PM
I used to go through Stewkley everyday on the way to school. Went out with a girl from there who I was at school with.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 07, 2019, 09:02:05 PM
We should stop being a soft touch and report Gomes to the FA. Mings should also sue him for slander.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Newby on February 07, 2019, 09:05:15 PM
Darren Gough once watched me play Cricket for Newport Pagnell against Drayton Parslow a few years ago

thought Iíd share

He used to play football for Stewkley in the Milton Keynes area too.

Blimey, thatís the next village along from me!

I used to play around that area too.  Wolverton, Bow Brickhill, Stony Stratford, New Bradwell, Old Bradwell, Roade, Nether Heyford, Kislingbury etc.  Local football, I loved it.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: john e on February 07, 2019, 09:44:26 PM
Darren Gough once watched me play Cricket for Newport Pagnell against Drayton Parslow a few years ago

thought Iíd share

He used to play football for Stewkley in the Milton Keynes area too.

Blimey, thatís the next village along from me!

I used to play around that area too.  Wolverton, Bow Brickhill, Stony Stratford, New Bradwell, Old Bradwell, Roade, Nether Heyford, Kislingbury etc.  Local football, I loved it.

Gough  used to turn out for D Parslow until the rules forbade him
have to say he was a decent enough chap to talk to

I played cricket at most of those places above but not football
My eldest lad played for football for  Buckingham town and Stony Stratford as well as NP over time

where are you living now




Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: ktvillan on February 07, 2019, 10:31:58 PM
No-one except Mings can say for sure if he meant it or not but looking at it at normal speed I'd say there is at least some room for doubt, and I can understand why some are interpreting it as deliberate.  I thought there was scope for him to make more of an effort to avoid the guys head, but maybe that's an illusion. And maybe not.  It didn't look like he was being particularly careful.  To dismiss doubters as witch hunters is a bit strong.  But you can't condemn Mings either, because there is doubt both ways.   
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on February 07, 2019, 10:37:51 PM
No-one except Mings can say for sure if he meant it or not but looking at it at normal speed I'd say there is at least some room for doubt, and I can understand why some are interpreting it as deliberate.  I thought there was scope for him to make more of an effort to avoid the guys head, but maybe that's an illusion. And maybe not.  It didn't look like he was being particularly careful.  To dismiss doubters as witch hunters is a bit strong.  But you can't condemn Mings either, because there is doubt both ways.   
Smith appears to be backing the player - any inkling of it being deliberate or the player having a malicious attitude and we should send him back - we shouldn't condone that type of behaviour on or off the field -  that's only if we find out he meant it of course
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: pooligan on February 08, 2019, 10:47:21 AM
It seems the media in general are determined to get Mings banned ,The first thing i heard when i turned Talkshite on this morning was another nobody Perry Groves telling us he is sure he Mings could have avoided the collision .The incident happened nearly a week ago and the F A have already said there  is no action to be taken .The thing that worries me is that Mings is a marked man and will be under enormous pressure every time he makes a challenge.Maybe Mings should consider suing  the likes of Gray,Halsey and Groves for these damaging remarks
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Drummond on February 08, 2019, 10:59:35 AM
We should stop being a soft touch and report Gomes to the FA. Mings should also sue him for slander.

I'd hope that Purslow was doing something similar behind the scenes prior to an official report.

I also agree we need to stop being a soft touch and fight our corner robustly.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Villa Lew on February 08, 2019, 11:26:53 AM
We should stop being a soft touch and report Gomes to the FA. Mings should also sue him for slander.

I'd hope that Purslow was doing something similar behind the scenes prior to an official report.

I also agree we need to stop being a soft touch and fight our corner robustly.
Totally agree Gomes should be reported to the FA, what he's said is scandalous. Also believe Tyrone should make a statement saying exactly that. He clearly has a case for suing him, but the only problem with that is this case will just carry on for months and months until the court case, whereas now it should blow over in a few weeks.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: brian green on February 08, 2019, 11:36:25 AM
Totally agree.  A culture has been allowed to grow that considers it permissible to say anything you want regardless of its truth or the damage it will cause simply because "it is only football".
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Small Rodent on February 08, 2019, 12:39:01 PM
Jesus Christ! That Reading manager sounds like my wife's mate when she gets dumped by a boyfriend (again)...saying the same thing 30 fucking times round and round and round like a fucking mantra of self-pity.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on February 08, 2019, 12:43:29 PM
It actually starts to make me feel nauseous now everytime I hear some other irrelevant ex player spouting off about it.  And also you watch the first thing he does tonight remotely like a foul he will get booked for.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: andyh on February 08, 2019, 12:48:43 PM
Everyone must be outraged about everything. Itís the law.
Even when itís fuck all to do with you.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Legion on February 08, 2019, 12:49:59 PM
2019. The year of the offended.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: itmustbe_it is! on February 08, 2019, 12:54:25 PM
We should stop being a soft touch and report Gomes to the FA. Mings should also sue him for slander.

Yes. Lets hope we do.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: pooligan on February 08, 2019, 12:55:41 PM
Until this week Reading were just another club who i had nothing against. However, after the way they have acted and continue to act i don't mind admitting i hope they are relegated .Their manager should be charged with bringing the game into disrepute for his comments
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: CT Villan on February 08, 2019, 01:16:26 PM
Everyone must be outraged about everything. Itís the law.
Even when itís fuck all to do with you.

Welcome to Snowflakia.

I wish this would just blow over before Tyrone is turned into a post-Coleman Neil Taylor.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: JUAN PABLO on February 08, 2019, 01:33:06 PM
Eddie Howe 100% behind Mings
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Richard E on February 08, 2019, 01:45:59 PM
Eddie Howe 100% behind Mings

Not surprised - he wouldnít want to be 100% in front of him in case he got trodden on.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Ads on February 08, 2019, 01:56:48 PM
Think we all need to remember that somebody died on Saturday. It's very, very serious and that the FA haven't done anything when this awful tragedy struck is a crying shame.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: brian green on February 08, 2019, 02:37:09 PM
 Steve Coogan's swimming pool supervisor nailed it.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: The Edge on February 08, 2019, 02:45:35 PM
Think we all need to remember that somebody died on Saturday. It's very, very serious and that the FA haven't done anything when this awful tragedy struck is a crying shame.
Won't somebody just think of the children?

Seriously though it's time the club made it known that the attempted trial by media has got to stop. What twats like Michael Gray, Matt LeTissier and Perry Groves are attempting to do to his career is bloody scandalous. The Villa or his parent club Bournemouth should make a formal statement telling them that they back him to the hilt and commentators need to back up and get off his case. He's guilty of nothing but an accidental collision which unfortunately led to a bad injury to an opponent.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Behind Bluenose Lines on February 08, 2019, 02:50:12 PM
Everyone must be outraged about everything. Itís the law.
Even when itís fuck all to do with you.

Welcome to Snowflakia.

I wish this would just blow over before Tyrone is turned into a post-Coleman Neil Taylor.

"Welcome to Snowflakia"

Worthy of a thread of its very own, and not just Villa-related! Can't be arsed to start one myself at the moment though!  :)
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: pooligan on February 08, 2019, 03:01:12 PM
The Reading manager is wrong when he says the referee did not see the collision .The referee was just feet away and saw the collision and decided it was not even a foul
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Villa75 on February 08, 2019, 03:03:59 PM
It actually starts to make me feel nauseous now everytime I hear some other irrelevant ex player spouting off about it.  And also you watch the first thing he does tonight remotely like a foul he will get booked for.

Mings will be fine. He just needs to be extra careful about not accidentally stepping on people's faces, from now on. Three times, and people will really start to ask questions.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Dave P on February 08, 2019, 03:04:35 PM
The Reading manager is wrong when he says the referee did not see the collision .The referee was just feet away and saw the collision and decided it was not even a foul

Spot on.  He did see it.  Hence him telling the disciplinary committee he saw it thus no action against Mings.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Legion on February 08, 2019, 03:05:02 PM
I thought this was his third one?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Small Rodent on February 08, 2019, 03:08:54 PM
Eddie Howe 100% behind Mings

Not surprised - he wouldnít want to be 100% in front of him in case he got trodden on.


Brilliant!
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: The Edge on February 08, 2019, 04:23:04 PM
It actually starts to make me feel nauseous now everytime I hear some other irrelevant ex player spouting off about it.  And also you watch the first thing he does tonight remotely like a foul he will get booked for.

Mings will be fine. He just needs to be extra careful about not accidentally stepping on people's faces, from now on. Three times, and people will really start to ask questions.
What kind of questions? It was an accident. Accidents happen. That's why there's a word for them.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: darren woolley on February 08, 2019, 04:39:14 PM
Some people are just accident prone not a bad thing can't be helped.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: olaftab on February 08, 2019, 05:08:32 PM
Well said Darren.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: olaftab on February 08, 2019, 05:11:40 PM
Eddie Howe 100% behind Mings

Not surprised - he wouldnít want to be 100% in front of him in case he got trodden on.
Thank you for giving this debate what it deserves. :)
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Neil Hawkes on February 08, 2019, 05:13:07 PM
Perhaps the lawyers amongst us can advise on why the BBC are allowed to post an article such as this:
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/47161602
Is that not defamatory and against all regulation guidance?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: olaftab on February 08, 2019, 05:19:46 PM
The Reading manager is wrong when he says the referee did not see the collision .The referee was just feet away and saw the collision and decided it was not even a foul
So he is calling out both the Referee and the FA  for liars. Surely that's an offence?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: john e on February 08, 2019, 05:50:46 PM
can't understand why people are getting all exercised about it on here

if you think it was an accident there's no further action to be taken

if you think it was intentional then our boy got away with it

Either way we all got what we wanted, it's a win -win

Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Bad English on February 08, 2019, 07:00:24 PM
can't understand why people are getting all exercised about it on here
Yes. They are not fit to comment.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on February 08, 2019, 10:14:48 PM
As home debuts go, he certainly looks the business. One to sign in the summer.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: chrisw1 on February 08, 2019, 11:07:26 PM
As home debuts go, he certainly looks the business. One to sign in the summer.
Yes, he looks like he could become an excellent player for us.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: SoccerHQ on February 08, 2019, 11:11:13 PM
Big and gangly but actually quite decent with the ball at his feet. Would be interested to see Chester alongside him as he wins plenty of headers or even better Axel.

Elphick was pretty shaky which didn't help.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Lastfootstamper on February 08, 2019, 11:12:30 PM
Very good tonight. Massive, ain't he! Quick, strong, comfortable and assured on the ball. I'm wondering if once Hause gets up to pace, Mings in at fullback?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: SoccerHQ on February 08, 2019, 11:14:19 PM
Very good tonight. Massive, ain't he! Quick, strong, comfortable and assured on the ball. I'm wondering if once Hause gets up to pace, Mings in at fullback?

Well he has played most of his career at left back. Don't mind him staying at CB but guess it's an option when Chester and Axel are both fit again in next few weeks as Taylor is just such a mediocre player.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Lastfootstamper on February 08, 2019, 11:17:12 PM
When's Axel due back, I thought we'd lost him for most of the remainder?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Sexual Ealing on February 08, 2019, 11:25:47 PM
He's really good. So much so that I'm intrigued to see how we'll ruin him.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: SoccerHQ on February 08, 2019, 11:27:05 PM
When's Axel due back, I thought we'd lost him for most of the remainder?

Think I read he might start training again in March so possible to get him back for last 5-6 games if it still matters by then.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Lastfootstamper on February 08, 2019, 11:33:56 PM
He's really good. So much so that I'm intrigued to see how we'll ruin him.

McGinn drove a pass between two possible recipients that went straight out for a throw, so we're starting to rub off on him. First signs shouldn't be too long in coming.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: KRS on February 08, 2019, 11:43:56 PM
Excellent player. Big, strong, tackles, wins headers, looks like he can play it out...and already proven to be a danger at set pieces with tonights goal. Just what we need to sure things up at the back, and form a partnership with Chester or A Nother.

Hopefully he'll continue this good form and turn his loan into perm signing in the summer.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: pauliewalnuts on February 09, 2019, 12:00:01 AM
He's really good. So much so that I'm intrigued to see how we'll ruin him.

Ha ha, very good
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Villa75 on February 09, 2019, 12:23:33 AM
It actually starts to make me feel nauseous now everytime I hear some other irrelevant ex player spouting off about it.  And also you watch the first thing he does tonight remotely like a foul he will get booked for.

Mings will be fine. He just needs to be extra careful about not accidentally stepping on people's faces, from now on. Three times, and people will really start to ask questions.
What kind of questions? It was an accident. Accidents happen. That's why there's a word for them.

Stepping on people's faces is pretty rare in football, despite the thousands of games that take place every week.

I'm suggesting that if one single player manages it three times, it might lead to serious questions. 😉
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Newby on February 09, 2019, 12:37:21 AM
It actually starts to make me feel nauseous now everytime I hear some other irrelevant ex player spouting off about it.  And also you watch the first thing he does tonight remotely like a foul he will get booked for.

Mings will be fine. He just needs to be extra careful about not accidentally stepping on people's faces, from now on. Three times, and people will really start to ask questions.
What kind of questions? It was an accident. Accidents happen. That's why there's a word for them.

Stepping on people's faces is pretty rare in football, despite the thousands of games that take place every week.

I'm suggesting that if one single player manages it three times, it might lead to serious questions. 😉

It's a contact sport.  Get over it, beside, the F.A. are a useless bunch of old middle England, politically correct snobby twats and even they thought it was an accident.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 09, 2019, 12:43:55 AM
Did they? Where have they said that?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Newby on February 09, 2019, 12:47:17 AM
Did they? Where have they said that?

He hasn't been charged, therefore, they are happy with the challenge.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 09, 2019, 12:48:37 AM
Under the current rules they can't charge him even if they are 100% convinced it was deliberate.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: West Derby Villan on February 09, 2019, 03:13:11 AM
Thought he had a very assured home debut, even taking in account three goals against. He has a sweet left foot which he demonstrated numerous times passing from far left to far right wing. Early days I know but very promising ....
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: mr underhill on February 09, 2019, 07:34:15 AM
Until we stop looking like the Titanic at the back, the jury's out on every defender we own - and there are plenty of them.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Brassneck on February 09, 2019, 07:49:04 AM
Until we stop looking like the Titanic at the back, the jury's out on every defender we own - and there are plenty of them.

Frustratingly, the only 2 defenders I would like to keep hold of are not owned by ourselves; Tuanzebe and Mings.  The fact that we weren't able to secure Mings with an option to buy suggests that his parent club still see him having a future with them.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Risso on February 09, 2019, 09:48:28 AM
Mings and Tuanzebe has the potential to be a very good combination.  The big stopper and the more mobile passer.  A Southgate and Ugo for a new generation.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: kipeye on February 09, 2019, 09:57:09 AM
Mings and Tuanzebe has the potential to be a very good combination.  The big stopper and the more mobile passer.  A Southgate and Ugo for a new generation.
I think Mings is potentially in that class Risso. If we keep Tuanzebe it will complete the picture, but don't forget Chester has been playing while unfit and for me, Elphick deserves a lot more credit than he gets. Taylor is unlikely to improve and the full back areas are the most important to improve now-God knows we have had enough different ones in recent years and some of those are doing OK elsewhere. We need a Gidman/Swain type duo who can get up and down the pitch and cover the flank areas at the same time. I still prefer Smith to any of the managers we've had for some years now and hope that his team can start to build for the future.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Dazvillain on February 09, 2019, 09:59:37 AM
Until we stop looking like the Titanic at the back, the jury's out on every defender we own - and there are plenty of them.

Frustratingly, the only 2 defenders I would like to keep hold of are not owned by ourselves; Tuanzebe and Mings.  The fact that we weren't able to secure Mings with an option to buy suggests that his parent club still see him having a future with them.
Mings def not option to buy , I thought he was?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Villa75 on February 09, 2019, 10:00:15 AM
Did they? Where have they said that?

He hasn't been charged, therefore, they are happy with the challenge.

That's not how it works.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Bren'd on February 09, 2019, 10:03:02 AM
If he canít make the Bournemouth team then we have a very long way to go. Our best player last night.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Clark W Griswold on February 09, 2019, 10:07:30 AM
I dont think they're in the class of Ugo and Southgate but Tuenzebe is still pretty young.

I thought Mings looked excellent last night though, i wonder how long it will take him to be dragged down to the level of the rest. Of course the other possibilities are that he gets injured or we don't sign him permanently for some reason. You could say the same about Tuenzebe, in the roughly 10 playing months we've had him here i think he's been fit for about 4 or maybe 5 and i think there is pretty much zero chance of signing him from Man Utd.
But, to end the days most negative post on a high, i would say that if we did keep them permanently and were able to keep them fit, they could definately become a championship version of Southgate and Ugo and should be as good as any other pairing in the league.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Risso on February 09, 2019, 10:07:53 AM
Until we stop looking like the Titanic at the back, the jury's out on every defender we own - and there are plenty of them.

Frustratingly, the only 2 defenders I would like to keep hold of are not owned by ourselves; Tuanzebe and Mings.  The fact that we weren't able to secure Mings with an option to buy suggests that his parent club still see him having a future with them.
Mings def not option to buy , I thought he was?

We do, there's been the suggestion of a very strange clause though where we have to match any other offers they get for him. 
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Tayls_7 on February 09, 2019, 11:36:48 AM
Until we stop looking like the Titanic at the back, the jury's out on every defender we own - and there are plenty of them.

Frustratingly, the only 2 defenders I would like to keep hold of are not owned by ourselves; Tuanzebe and Mings.  The fact that we weren't able to secure Mings with an option to buy suggests that his parent club still see him having a future with them.
Mings def not option to buy , I thought he was?

We do, there's been the suggestion of a very strange clause though where we have to match any other offers they get for him.

I've got a Groucho Marx suspicion of anyone wanting to join our club right now.  Far too many coming for the big payday and doing eff all.  I see Mingsey being an exception however.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: ROBBO on February 09, 2019, 07:53:28 PM
Those who look at the stats would know better but I can't recall a single pass from Mings not reaching the target, I wonder if he could be used in a central defensive midfield role until next season.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Brassneck on February 09, 2019, 07:55:29 PM
Those who look at the stats would know better but I can't recall a single pass from Mings not reaching the target, I wonder if he could be used in a central defensive midfield role until next season.

Where would that leave the defence?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 09, 2019, 07:58:58 PM
54 passes with a 79.6% PA last night. Against Reading it was 45 passes with 80% PA.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: JJ-AV on February 10, 2019, 08:35:06 AM
He tries adventurous passes but his first one didn't come off, ball out to El Ghazi IIRC.

Really does look the business.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: brian green on February 10, 2019, 08:39:14 AM
He does doesn't he?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: VinnieChase84 on February 10, 2019, 10:52:26 AM
He is exactly what weíve been missing. An absolute man mountain. Hope to god we can get him on a perm deal however I suspect if he shows the football world he can stay fit then he will have larger offers than us come the summer unfortunately
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: darren woolley on February 10, 2019, 01:17:41 PM
I'm definitely satisfied with his performances so far just what we have lacked hopefully we can sign him up permanently.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on February 10, 2019, 03:26:17 PM


I'm already convinced he's a different class to our other CBs. Just wish we'd got that buy clause inserted and a fee agreed.

If (big if) we have money to spend in the summer signing him and Axel and a left back would be priority number one

Mind you, we also need a couple of strikers, at least 1 winger, couple of midfielders

It's going to be a brutal rebuild especially if we have a small budget
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: cheltenhamlion on February 11, 2019, 06:41:56 PM
It's the lack of a hop, skip or jump in trying to step away that gets me.
And that this is a repeat offense

If he was playing for Reading and did this to Tammy Abraham then majority would be saying he should be banned.

Why would all these ex players and refs be saying he should be banned ? Are they all wrong ??

As yes it's people's interpretation of the incident , however those that play the game would know that seemed little concerted effort to step out the way.

I not liking all these doubled standard and blinkered opinions coming up on this thread.


Let's accept what he did was wrong and that hopefully he can learn to be more sporting

People have dismissed any view that remotely suggest it could have been deliberate either by the ex footballers and refs that play the  game and even by Oliveira wife.

Oliveria wife has made her comments and people have dismissed it.

Lack of compassion and sporting appreciation is shocking on here.

Really no need for so much dismissiveness
And should be thanking that Mings has got away with this act.



How about you bugger off with the supercilious crap? "Let's all agree I am right, he is lucky he didn't get the electric chair and move on". You can presume him guilty if you wish, I call bullshit.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: cheltenhamlion on February 11, 2019, 06:45:10 PM
He does hop on his left foot, twice. He has to put his right foot down.

It is not a repeat offence, as no offence has been committed.

You don't know what anybody would be saying. Utter, baseless conjecture.

Twitter is a platform for those seeking instant gratification in a black or white, worst ever or best ever society. Devoid of thinking, if you were to read comments on social media as a bellwether, then we're surely and quite rightly doomed as a species.

Tyrone Mings plays the game. He knows the impossibility of defying the laws if physics in a split second. He says it was an accident. I'd rather listen to him than drunk driving fools or absolute no marks.

Ok well as long as you would take that view if he had did it to Tammy Abraham when playing for Reading

You are quite literally one of only a handful of people here who have decided that it would be a different argument (and from fucking all of us I might add) had our player been injured in the same incident.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: cheltenhamlion on February 11, 2019, 06:49:19 PM
It's the lack of a hop, skip or jump in trying to step away that gets me.
And that this is a repeat offense

If he was playing for Reading and did this then majority would be saying he should be banned.

Why would all these ex players and refs be saying he should be banned .

As yes it's people's interpretation of the incident , however those that play the game would know that there was a concerted effort to step out the way.




Footy, let me explain it to you like this: I am an ex-referee who officiated at a relatively high standard.  I have viewed this incident just the once the same as the referee on the day, and that was deliberately so as to have an objective view.  As I have posted previously had I been the referee on Saturday I would have seen the incident exactly the way I imagine the match referee saw it and carried on playing.  The only reason I would have stopped play would be when my attention was drawn to the fact that there was  possibility  a serious injury.  It was unfortunate for the Reading player but Mings was blameless, I've seen and dealt with a lot worse.  I'm particularly clever but one thing I do know is that I was a fairly decent referee, I have awards for it.  It's really time to let it go.

Yes I let it go just responding to all the stuff I read on here.
No worries here.
I respect your response
As I say he wouldn't get a character reference in court as he is a repeat offender.
But ok I hear what your interpretation and I will let go.
I felt I needed to respond or bite to what I think were some quite stony-hearted responses to a man having his face smashed.

But yes. No more from me on this matter.
Cheers Dave Good to hear your refs view and consideration to matter based on your undoubtedly experience and that's good enough from me to accept that it could have been an accident .
Thanks.

Up the villa.

You wouldn't need a character reference in court as a  repeat offender when there was no sodding offence in the first place. Is this all because he was nasty to your hero Zlatan or are you just desperate to conjure up a controversy to discuss?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: cheltenhamlion on February 11, 2019, 06:53:06 PM
Footy, the main problem here is that it's really hard to find footage of this played in real time, if you see it at that speed it looks like an accident. If you see the 2 frames a second super slo-mo version that's being shared on the internet then it looks much worse because it tricks you into thinking he had time to react. Oliveira fell into him and he tries to skip out of the way with his left and then, when he can't regain his balance, tries to place his right foot where he won't stand on an outstretched arm.

Which is exactly why VAR is going to be an absolute farce for decisions of opinion rather than fact....the more you slow it down the more you can make it look how you want it to suit your opinion. 

The posting on social media of the picture of his face afterwards caused the outrage in the TalkSPORT wannabes like tw@ Kitson - suppose we have to trust that was a genuine undoctored picture :-)

Accidents happen & that was exactly what this was

Just look at catches close to the ground in the cricket.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: cheltenhamlion on February 11, 2019, 06:58:36 PM
Jose Gomes reading manager on the incident .
Direct quotes said today Thursday.

Reflecting on the incident

"I must say the truth - and the truth is that from the bench during the game for me it doesn't look an intentional action.

But when I watch the pictures [replay], I have no doubt at all that it was intentional to touch Nelson's face.

After he stepped on the face, he broke the nose in four places and scars everywhere. And he's out of the pitch, he cannot train and can't play in the next match.

I cannot judge the referee because from the bench it was accidental.


The point here is the federation (the FA) cannot do anything because the referee saw it on the pitch.

But the problem is that the referee did not see it because I am sure if he watched the picture and then took a decision, the decision would be very, very tough for Mings.

We cannot judge the referee, we must help the referee and his decisions.

How can we do that - I don't know. But I know one thing - we must think about it because we are talking about football players that can get a very serious injury and nothing happens.

We could be talking about an ex player. If Mings chose to touch Nelson in his eye he could be a blind player.

We could be talking about a blind player and nothing happened.

I'm not against the referee or the federation, I'm just supporting my player and football.

It wasn't a football action, it was a different thing."

If an investigation should be done

I haven't read the match report [from the referee] but for sure the referee wrote he saw it.

It's one thing looking at something but it's another thing if he really saw what happened.

It was impossible for the referee to see what really happened. He didn't see anything - he saw the movements and the player touched somewhere but he didn't realise how dangerous Mings' action was.

So we must help the referees. How? We must think about it.


Even if he mentioned something he didn't mention the thing which happened because he didn't see it.

I don't know how we can fix this problem. It's not fair Nelson is out - he can't even breathe properly.

And with the other player, nothing happened. I think it's not fair.

If King Solomon gives justice to this then it should be he [Mings] can only play when Nelson is really ready, without anything in his face.

If rules should be changed to allow the FA more access to incidents

Something must be done because if you look at the replay - we have a very good one from our media department that you can see clearly Mings looks down.

If everybody accepts - because the ref mentioned in his report that it was a non intentional action but if you look at the replay he stepped on Nelson's face with intention.

Only two things can happen. One the federation can do something to punish Mings or if the referee saw it and didn't do anything then he must be punished.

I really believe the referee didn't see it. He saw the movement but didn't see anything strange.

It was difficult for him. Like me, we thought it was non-intentional action, but when you see the replay, there is no doubt.

But now nothing happens. It's not fair. Imagine how the player feels.

I feel frustrated with this because we cannot do anything. This is the point - it's not fair.

We should look at this as an example for the future.

The question is - we're talking about a Reading player - but if you talk about a Man Utd or Arsenal or Man City player - would it be the same thing?

The action was very ugly. It was a very tough and ugly thing.

I know that Mings did not want to damage Nelson's face in this way but he wanted to step on his face.

If you do this, you don't know what happens. He could have avoided it but he didn't.

Something should happen.

Mings having had a previous ban for stamping

This is from the past. Mings is a very good, a very fast central defender with good technique and is good with the head.

We must make a question from this. If the same thing happens tomorrow, how can we fix this? It's not correct and it's not fair.

It's not against anybody, it's about supporting football and protecting the players.

The support shown towards Oliveira

He deserves it because he's a great professional. He wanted to train and play [this weekend] but it's difficult for him.

He wanted to be on the list and in training but the doctor didn't allow it.

We'll see if we can fix him soon. But he deserves the support for the way he has been suffering this season and the way he caught this opportunity.

He's feeling at home at Reading. Everybody likes him, he's working very well and he's feeling the support everyone is giving him.

Hopefully he will recover very soon to help us again.

If other players have been affected by the clash

The players know it was intentional. You don't need to be a professional to say it was an intentional action.

The replay is clear, he looked down and could have avoided it. He let his foot back to touch his face.

All the players saw it and have helped Nelson a lot. Even before going to the hospital, he joked a bit and helped the players not to feel the condition of him.

Referee being demoted to League 2 this weekend

I cannot talk about things I don't know exactly. Maybe it was a coincidence.

Put simply, his face is fucked so ban him for life. An utter load of bollocks.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: cheltenhamlion on February 11, 2019, 07:06:39 PM
Perhaps the lawyers amongst us can advise on why the BBC are allowed to post an article such as this:
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/47161602
Is that not defamatory and against all regulation guidance?

The BBC can suck on my cheesy Hampton as well.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: cheltenhamlion on February 11, 2019, 07:10:01 PM
And by the way, Mings looks a very good signing so let's hope we keep him fit and playing.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: andyh on February 11, 2019, 07:11:41 PM
Chelts.......are you ok hun?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: cheltenhamlion on February 11, 2019, 07:14:50 PM
Sorry. This story has particularly got on my tits and footyskillz has as well. Unless he comes back for another round I am done on Mings now.

Dave is happy. I have an article to write for him!
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: CT on February 11, 2019, 07:21:11 PM
Sorry. This story has particularly got on my tits and footyskillz has as well. Unless he comes back for another round I am done on Mings now.

Dave is happy. I have an article to write for him!

The "Cheesey Hampton" line nearly made me choke with laughter as I was drinking at the time!!!
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: The Edge on February 11, 2019, 07:37:00 PM
On wm tonight they read out a e-mail sent in by some bitter villa hating twat.

"Dean Smith is a hypocrite for slating the officials for allowing Sheffield uniteds second goal to stand. He's whinging because Sharpe allegedly kicked the ball out of the keepers hands. The keeper wasn't injured. Last week Mings stamped on a Reading players face injuring him badly. Smith didn't say a word about Mings assault. Hypocrite"

 To be fair the presenter put him straight pointing out that it has been judged as accidental. Honestly I'm staggered at how fucking clueless some people are and they decide to contact a radio show just to highlight the fact.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: cheltenhamlion on February 11, 2019, 07:40:25 PM
Sorry. This story has particularly got on my tits and footyskillz has as well. Unless he comes back for another round I am done on Mings now.

Dave is happy. I have an article to write for him!

The "Cheesey Hampton" line nearly made me choke with laughter as I was drinking at the time!!!

Apologies!
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: West Derby Villan on February 11, 2019, 07:58:08 PM
Chelts, bet you feel a lot better now, getting all that of your chest....better out than in !
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: cheltenhamlion on February 11, 2019, 08:01:04 PM
Chelts, bet you feel a lot better now, getting all that of your chest....better out than in !

Like a cleansing. If I had bothered to look here in the past week I wouldn't have had to 95 consecutive responses!
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: West Derby Villan on February 11, 2019, 10:41:12 PM
Chelts, bet you feel a lot better now, getting all that of your chest....better out than in !

Like a cleansing. If I had bothered to look here in the past week I wouldn't have had to 95 consecutive responses!

Ha ha
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Neil Hawkes on February 12, 2019, 09:29:52 AM
Sorry. This story has particularly got on my tits and footyskillz has as well. Unless he comes back for another round I am done on Mings now.
Dave is happy. I have an article to write for him!

The "Cheesey Hampton" line nearly made me choke with laughter as I was drinking at the time!!!
A spate of quality rants, followed by this quote, great stuff.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: chrisw1 on February 12, 2019, 10:34:27 AM
Cheltenham

You are of the view it was a complete accident.  Lots of people aren't so convinced - you only have to read the pages of this thread to realise that.  I personally think he could probably have avoided it if he really wanted to to - I know this is debatable but it's my opinion.  I don't want him to be banned and I'm glad he wasn't, but my own view is he's a bit lucky that the system doesn't allow a review. 

The fact that you see it differently doesn't make you a better fan or more loyal than those who aren't so convinced.

You post as if it's black and white and your opinion is the only one that is valid and he has been completely exonerated.  Just because it can't be reviewed doesn't mean the refs decision is correct.  Some people think it was wrong, in the same way we all think the Baggies hand ball goal was wrong and Sharps kick out the hands was wrong - the ref saw those once in real time too and clearly made the wrong call.

I agree with what you say about trial by media - the coverage has been OTT.  But it was a horrific injury and was always going to attract a lot of attention.  I think pundits are within their right to give their views, just as we are on this forum. 

It's not black and white.  He hasn't been proved innocent or guilty and never will be, it will always remain a matter of opinion.  I can see both sides but my overwhelming feeling is one of relief that there is no formal review.  I think it's time to accept that sometimes peoples opinions differ and move on.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Risso on February 12, 2019, 10:51:39 AM
I agree with all that, and also that itís time to move on.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: brian green on February 12, 2019, 10:54:31 AM
Fickle?  Who?  Us?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: passport1 on February 12, 2019, 11:20:28 AM
No just a bit claret and blue eyed when it suits us.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: LukeJames on February 13, 2019, 10:44:51 PM
I like him, one of the only positives for me.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: footyskillz on February 13, 2019, 11:40:50 PM
Mings . Let's call him a tough competitor.

I think it was good to see what looked like an acknowledgement and hand shake /embrace with 'mopey' after match as he had a beef and battle with Brentford striker at times 

Shades of mellberg with his hoofs in the first half and particular at start I'm sure in part due to press of Brentford and lack of midfield option.

Was outclassed along with Elphick for the goal.
And sold himself twice including goal .

But he was a solid performer again .

Very decent for this level
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: KRS on February 14, 2019, 06:02:19 AM
He gave a right bollocking to someone in midfield tonight in the first half...not sure if it was aimed at Whelan, El Ghazi or Hologram. Must be a tough job having all those useless twats in midfield and the ball coming back at them every minute.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: sid1964 on February 14, 2019, 07:21:41 AM
He did okay last night, but for there goal, I could not believe how easily he was beaten -  the bollocking he gave out I think was directed at Abrahams.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: JUAN PABLO on February 14, 2019, 12:10:10 PM
I like him . He takes no shit off anyone .  Wish someone like Hologram had the same bollocks
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Drummond on February 14, 2019, 01:06:34 PM
I like him too. I hope we sign him in the summer. I'd also like Tuanzebe but can't see it happening.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: footyskillz on February 14, 2019, 01:11:08 PM
Sorry. This story has particularly got on my tits and footyskillz has as well. Unless he comes back for another round I am done on Mings now.

Dave is happy. I have an article to write for him!

I have only just seen all your replies ?!!

Errr We all moved on !

But I guess yours were belated !
And you're just stating your views.

All I have to say is Happy Valentines day to you.

Lots of love !

(And sorry if I annoyed you for whatever reason.)

We can just move past this and think of love.

Have a good one CH !
No hard feelings !

Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: wittonwarrior on February 14, 2019, 02:21:18 PM
Effective defender which is  what  we need right now.  Hoofer of the ball which long term will not fit into Deano's plans.  But the best of a sorry bunch of defenders at the club as at 14:21pm on 14/02/2019
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: AVH87 on February 14, 2019, 02:32:35 PM
Effective defender which is  what  we need right now.  Hoofer of the ball which long term will not fit into Deano's plans.  But the best of a sorry bunch of defenders at the club as at 14:21pm on 14/02/2019

I don't think he aims to be a hoofer. But look in front of you and who is showing for the ball? Whelan is knackered most the time from us chasing the ball back, Hourihane hides which leaves McGinn who is often double marked.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: wittonwarrior on February 14, 2019, 02:36:18 PM
Effective defender which is  what  we need right now.  Hoofer of the ball which long term will not fit into Deano's plans.  But the best of a sorry bunch of defenders at the club as at 14:21pm on 14/02/2019

I don't think he aims to be a hoofer. But look in front of you and who is showing for the ball? Whelan is knackered most the time from us chasing the ball back, Hourihane hides which leaves McGinn who is often double marked.

You have more than a  valid point.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Risso on February 14, 2019, 02:50:18 PM
I like him too. I hope we sign him in the summer. I'd also like Tuanzebe but can't see it happening.

That would be a shame, because on paper at least they'd be a great combination.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: PaulWinch again on February 14, 2019, 07:00:44 PM
I think he needs to play left back. Heís good at centre half, but we need his footballing ability down the flank.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Clampy on February 14, 2019, 07:06:10 PM
I'd keep him at centre half and let him build up an understanding with Elphick or Chester when he's back.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Brassneck on February 14, 2019, 07:12:32 PM
Keep him in the centre.  He can play it out of defence but only when there are options to do so.  Last night, he was closed down so quickly that often his best choice was to go long.  Sometimes it was his only choice.

New LB hopefully in the summer but let's not tinker with the defence again now.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: TheMalandro on February 14, 2019, 07:25:03 PM
Itís very frustrating, heís going to make a big difference to the team, but itís pretty meaningless.

I doubt weíll see him after the season ends.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: olaftab on February 14, 2019, 07:32:30 PM
I'd keep him at centre half and let him build up an understanding with Elphick or Chester when he's back.
Tuanzebe.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Clampy on February 14, 2019, 07:35:23 PM
I'd keep him at centre half and let him build up an understanding with Elphick or Chester when he's back.
Tuanzebe.

He won't be back for a while.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Newby on February 14, 2019, 07:38:35 PM
He did okay last night, but for there goal, I could not believe how easily he was beaten -  the bollocking he gave out I think was directed at Abrahams.

He was beaten by a brilliant bit of skill.  It was the only thing he did wrong all night.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Legion on February 14, 2019, 07:41:02 PM
I'd keep him at centre half and let him build up an understanding with Elphick or Chester when he's back.
Tuanzebe.

He won't be back for a while.

I hope he comes back for good. I want him back for good.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: andyh on February 14, 2019, 10:42:53 PM
14 games left over 11 weeks.
Is he even out of plaster yet?
Iíd be very surprised if we see Axel play for us a again.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: West Derby Villan on February 14, 2019, 11:19:14 PM
I rate him and hopefully we sign him at the end of the season. He's assured in the air,  takes no nonsense from opponents and has a sweet left foot, just what we need at left central defence
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: ROBBO on February 14, 2019, 11:45:37 PM
We will be much better when he moves to left back.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Risso on February 15, 2019, 11:01:57 AM
We will be much better when he moves to left back.

And weaken the centre of defence?  No thanks.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: SoccerHQ on February 15, 2019, 11:15:05 AM
We will be much better when he moves to left back.

And weaken the centre of defence?  No thanks.

We need to be thinking long term though. This season is over, we're finishing 10th, 11th or 12th. I simply don't see the point of getting Hause in if he's seen as a full back, it's exactly like SB playing Axel at right back.

Maybe the short term solution here is give Hause and Mings a few games together at CB and see if that gels, Elphick is hardly some undroppable defensive colossus after all.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: olaftab on February 15, 2019, 11:26:33 AM
I'd keep him at centre half and let him build up an understanding with Elphick or Chester when he's back.
Tuanzebe.

He won't be back for a while.

I hope he comes back for good. I want him back for good.
If he tells me a song I will sing it.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: chrisw1 on February 15, 2019, 11:56:18 AM
I really like the look of Mings so far.  I get the impression he wants to play centre half and I suspect that's where his long term future is.  I hope it's with us.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Neil Hawkes on February 15, 2019, 04:41:33 PM
I really like the look of Mings so far.  I get the impression he wants to play centre half and I suspect that's where his long term future is.  I hope it's with us.
With Axel as the holding midfielder, (we can but hope).
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Jon Crofts on February 16, 2019, 10:32:43 PM
Heís quite vocal on social media and seems to have quickly sussed out the fact we have a group of fans who really arenít helping.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: XXVilla on February 16, 2019, 10:38:18 PM
Heís quite vocal on social media and seems to have quickly sussed out the fact we have a group of fans who really arenít helping.

Our fault again. Thatís the kind of shite you see on SHA
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 16, 2019, 10:41:41 PM
All he said was "we must stick together". It's an impressive leap to go from that to him "sussing" we have fans that aren't helping.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: West Derby Villan on February 17, 2019, 01:09:19 AM
Played well today, has yet to have a poor game in my opinion. Sees it as it is and makes comments, what wrong with that. He's said tough times, we need to stick together, I agree
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: darren woolley on February 17, 2019, 06:48:48 PM
I just hope we sign him permanently in the summer.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: PaulWinch again on February 18, 2019, 09:19:18 AM
All he said was "we must stick together". It's an impressive leap to go from that to him "sussing" we have fans that aren't helping.

Indeed.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: AV82EC on February 18, 2019, 09:29:23 AM
Heís quite vocal on social media and seems to have quickly sussed out the fact we have a group of fans who really arenít helping.

I saw that and heís dead right. The total frustration of some of our supporters has been simmering under the surface since relegation, it hasnít gone away, not sure what itís going to take to purge it so we can all move forwards.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: aj2k77 on February 18, 2019, 10:36:53 AM
Heís quite vocal on social media and seems to have quickly sussed out the fact we have a group of fans who really arenít helping.

I saw that and heís dead right. The total frustration of some of our supporters has been simmering under the surface since relegation, it hasnít gone away, not sure what itís going to take to purge it so we can all move forwards.

Some decent football and results?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on February 18, 2019, 01:13:49 PM
Heís quite vocal on social media and seems to have quickly sussed out the fact we have a group of fans who really arenít helping.

I saw that and heís dead right. The total frustration of some of our supporters has been simmering under the surface since relegation, it hasnít gone away, not sure what itís going to take to purge it so we can all move forwards.

Acceptance that we are what we currently are and that pretending we aren't isn't helping anyone.

It's this old 'we're Aston Villa' mindset that not only drives other people outside the club barmy but me and others i go with also.

It's absolutely irrelevant and if people keep trying to compare what is now with what once was they'll never get over the fact we're currently shit and get behind the current team/manager/board and support us back to where we all want (but not deserve) to be etc etc

They've got to get in the now and stop living in the past. Time has moved on.









Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: paul_e on February 18, 2019, 01:55:13 PM
Sorry, can't agree with that. It's not about people living in the past, it's about looking at everything, except the squad, at the club and KNOWING that this is a top half of the premier league club. we should never forget that, we should never get over it. We got relegated because we made a lot of bad decisions, in fact we're closing in on a decade since we first started on this path when we let MON buy a new back 4 for the 2nd year running but think Downing was the only extra attacking player we needed. We won't get back to where we want to be by thinking we're shit and deserve to be here, we'll get back there by having a plan on what we want to do and sticking to it. Part of that plan will be that we've got facilities and a reputation that is vastly above most teams in this league which gives us plenty of advantages so long as we know how to use them.


Living in the past is thinking that someone like Bruce of Fat Sam or Warnock could come in and 'do a job' and then we'd replace them once we're promoted. We've seen teams do things the right way, get promoted and stay up for a while, the issue is the likes of Swansea, Southampton, Bournemouth, etc are small clubs who are fine until things go wrong and then they just haven't got the structure to ride things out. All of them know that though, which is why they've put money into their grounds and training facilities whilst things were going well in the hope that getting back (or holding on and rebuilding) will become easier.


Smith is a nod to the future, he may not be the right choice but if he isn't he'll be the wrong choice for the right reasons and hopefully the club will be, even if the results haven't come, better setup for the next guy. Sherwood, RDM and Bruce each left a clusterfuck in their wake, I doubt Smith will do the same.
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Post by: tomd2103 on February 18, 2019, 02:06:22 PM
Sorry, can't agree with that. It's not about people living in the past, it's about looking at everything, except the squad, at the club and KNOWING that this is a top half of the premier league club. we should never forget that, we should never get over it. We got relegated because we made a lot of bad decisions, in fact we're closing in on a decade since we first started on this path when we let MON buy a new back 4 for the 2nd year running but think Downing was the only extra attacking player we needed. We won't get back to where we want to be by thinking we're shit and deserve to be here, we'll get back there by having a plan on what we want to do and sticking to it. Part of that plan will be that we've got facilities and a reputation that is vastly above most teams in this league which gives us plenty of advantages so long as we know how to use them.


Living in the past is thinking that someone like Bruce of Fat Sam or Warnock could come in and 'do a job' and then we'd replace them once we're promoted. We've seen teams do things the right way, get promoted and stay up for a while, the issue is the likes of Swansea, Southampton, Bournemouth, etc are small clubs who are fine until things go wrong and then they just haven't got the structure to ride things out. All of them know that though, which is why they've put money into their grounds and training facilities whilst things were going well in the hope that getting back (or holding on and rebuilding) will become easier.


Smith is a nod to the future, he may not be the right choice but if he isn't he'll be the wrong choice for the right reasons and hopefully the club will be, even if the results haven't come, better setup for the next guy. Sherwood, RDM and Bruce each left a clusterfuck in their wake, I doubt Smith will do the same.

Totally agree Paul and I don't want us to ever just accept our lot as a Championship club.  The money we spent over the past few seasons should have seen us assemble a squad too strong for this league, but it was spent badly in a lot of cases. 

They had a bit of an advantage with the Mendes link (right or wrong), but Wolves spent the same kind or less money and bought a number of players who were probably a bit too good for the league and got the best out of those that were inherited.  We have not even come close to doing that. 
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Drummond on February 18, 2019, 02:40:25 PM
We need to accept it right now though. Because that's the reality.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on February 18, 2019, 02:47:47 PM


I rest my case.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: paul_e on February 18, 2019, 04:56:08 PM
You can rest it if you like but if think that what me and tom have posted somehow provs your point then you might need to take another look.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on February 18, 2019, 06:18:54 PM
You can rest it if you like but if think that what me and tom have posted somehow provs your point then you might need to take another look.

It doesn't matter if we have billionaire owners, 40 thousand people turning up or that we once won the European Cup

It's about the now. If people are forever going to sit and moan about the good old days or compare what we have now to what we once had it just breeds negativity to my mind. They'll never be happy with even a slight bit of progression as it will never be enough.

We aren't something special and we don't deserve to be anywhere but where we are. We accept that, and we do something about it.

Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 18, 2019, 06:27:12 PM
Anyone that thinks being Aston Villa doesn't still make a difference to the rest of the league should be asking themselves which other clubs in this league would have got Appleyard (twice), Edens and Sawiris and so on. The vast majority of players and managers in this league wouldn't hesitate to leave their current clubs to join us, and it wouldn't be just for the cash for a lot of them.

Apart from a few that sill seem to think we should be spending tens of millions every transfer window everyone knows where we are. We're a mid-table second division side. I'll be fucked if i'll ever accept we're a second division club though and there's a massive difference between the two things.

We are Aston Villa, we are something fucking special.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Ads on February 18, 2019, 06:44:38 PM
We aren't something special? What a load of bollocks.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: dave shelley on February 18, 2019, 06:48:24 PM
We are the most special football club in the world, bar none.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: brian green on February 18, 2019, 07:14:27 PM
Playing results come and go.  Quality is timeless.  Even at times like now when we are playing very, very badly I feel sorry for people who are not Villa supporters and I am especially sorry for my nephew who claims to have become a  Citeh fan.  He will get battered at my funeral.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: paul_e on February 18, 2019, 07:57:50 PM
You can rest it if you like but if think that what me and tom have posted somehow provs your point then you might need to take another look.

It doesn't matter if we have billionaire owners, 40 thousand people turning up or that we once won the European Cup

It's about the now. If people are forever going to sit and moan about the good old days or compare what we have now to what we once had it just breeds negativity to my mind. They'll never be happy with even a slight bit of progression as it will never be enough.

We aren't something special and we don't deserve to be anywhere but where we are. We accept that, and we do something about it.

I said nothing about winning anything but 40k tickets every week and billionaire owners does matter, we have better commercial revenue and people who are used to handling massive assets. Every signing talks about the facilities being amazing because they are, and it matters.

We're in the championship, everyone knows that and personally I'm not that interested in comparison to previous squads, but that doesn't mean we forget who we are. Aston Villa is a big 'brand' in the sport, why the fuck would anyone not want to acknowledge that?

We aren't special but, unlike 80 odd teams in the English leagues we could be, that's what you're trying to make people forget and it won't happen,  and nor should it.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on February 19, 2019, 01:02:38 PM


Let it go. You'll enjoy things far more if you do. That's my motto.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 02, 2019, 06:01:25 PM
A really excellent competent footballer. Doesn't do anything rash. Seems to have a very calm head on his shoulders.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Sexual Ealing on March 02, 2019, 06:05:26 PM
And he always looks twice the size of anyone else on the pitch. I don't know who Bournemouth have been playing ahead of him but he must be very good.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Newby on March 02, 2019, 06:09:56 PM
I hope we go all out to sign him and that he wants to come to us.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: brontebilly on March 02, 2019, 06:12:41 PM
Very good defender. Physically dominant and good with ball at his feet.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: brentastonb6 on March 02, 2019, 10:07:27 PM
Playing results come and go.  Quality is timeless.  Even at times like now when we are playing very, very badly I feel sorry for people who are not Villa supporters and I am especially sorry for my nephew who claims to have become a  Citeh fan.  He will get battered at my funeral.
Batter him now whilst youíre still alive to enjoy it and serve time 👍
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Clampy on March 02, 2019, 10:41:37 PM
I thought he maybe should have done better with that header in the second half today but he's been great since he's been here.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: darren woolley on March 03, 2019, 08:46:37 PM
I just hope we can sign him in the summer he's been brilliant for us.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: chrisw1 on March 03, 2019, 09:10:33 PM
I just hope we can sign him in the summer he's been brilliant for us.
Such a likeable player.

I think he'll have plenty of suitors in the summer, but I think I'd offer him the captaincy and a decent contract and hope for the best.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: chrisw1 on March 03, 2019, 09:11:58 PM
Unless Jack wants it of course.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: mike on March 03, 2019, 10:05:10 PM
Heís very composed. If heís not good enough for a (all due respect) shit PL side then there really is a gulf.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Dazvillain on March 03, 2019, 10:44:41 PM
I just hope we can sign him in the summer he's been brilliant for us.
Weíre all going to be gutted as he was sent here to increase his saleability . Cherries will cash in on him going to go to a prem team.
Weíll have plenty more gaps to fill on our very tight costs base
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Brassneck on March 03, 2019, 10:59:33 PM
I thought he maybe should have done better with that header in the second half today but he's been great since he's been here.

Sounds like an assessment of one of God's performances - If doing better with a header is the only thing to improve on then he must be doing OK.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: UK Redsox on March 04, 2019, 09:36:33 AM
I'd be very surprised if he's still in the Championship next season.

He's looked the best centre half that Villa have had for a few years, including Terry and Chester (who were really a great partnership, rather than great individual players).
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 04, 2019, 01:03:03 PM
Despite the mess we were in last summer we still got PL players like Tammy Abraham and Bolasie. We still signed Kalinic in January and kept Abraham as well as adding Mings. All of these players had other options but decided Aston Villa was the place to be despite our clouds of uncertainty.

If Dean Smith can finish the season strongly, the sides that are coming up and down into the Championship in my opinion won't be as powerful as the last three seasons with Newcastle, Wolves and even Leeds/Norwich who are just more consistent. It won't be easy but I believe if it doesn't happen this season we have a brilliant chance next year and it might convince players like Mings, Jack etc to stick around for one more go.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Newby on March 04, 2019, 07:24:18 PM
Despite the mess we were in last summer we still got PL players like Tammy Abraham and Bolasie. We still signed Kalinic in January and kept Abraham as well as adding Mings. All of these players had other options but decided Aston Villa was the place to be despite our clouds of uncertainty.

If Dean Smith can finish the season strongly, the sides that are coming up and down into the Championship in my opinion won't be as powerful as the last three seasons with Newcastle, Wolves and even Leeds/Norwich who are just more consistent. It won't be easy but I believe if it doesn't happen this season we have a brilliant chance next year and it might convince players like Mings, Jack etc to stick around for one more go.

I agree with this and think this is why Jack and SJM won't be going anywhere this summer.  One last crack, several players leaving on free's to free up salary.  Several players available to us on Bosman's and some at Villa on loan deals but with fees already agreed.  Makes for an interesting summer!
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: SheffieldVillain on March 04, 2019, 07:26:17 PM
I just hope we can sign him in the summer he's been brilliant for us.
Weíre all going to be gutted as he was sent here to increase his saleability . Cherries will cash in on him going to go to a prem team.
Weíll have plenty more gaps to fill on our very tight costs base

If this is true, and 'Cherries' are only interested in raising the price as much as possible, why would they give a fuck on whether the team offering it is in the Premiership or the Championship?

The player might well have a preference on which league, I doubt the selling club would - in fact selling to a club not one of their rivals would be advantageous if anything.

Also, is this the 'tight costs basis' that just spent £7m on a keeper and £5m on a fullback in January, also offering £12m for a Championship centre-back? And actively fought for an on-loan striker to stay who we are paying up to a couple of million just to loan?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: chrisw1 on March 04, 2019, 08:23:53 PM
re the tight cost basis - we can't flaunt FFP forever.  If we don't go up there's no doubt we will have to cut back.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: SheffieldVillain on March 04, 2019, 09:00:17 PM

re the tight cost basis - we can't flaunt FFP forever.  If we don't go up there's no doubt we will have to cut back.

Of course we can't. Just until we get promoted is fine!
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on March 05, 2019, 08:36:34 AM


Says a lot about our experience with centre backs over the last however many years when an under the radar and discarded PL player like Mings comes in and looks a whole different level to what we've had for quite some time.

If we could somehow convince him to stay in the Championship and find the funds needed he'd be first on my summer buy list.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: SheffieldVillain on March 05, 2019, 09:48:54 AM


Says a lot about our experience with centre backs over the last however many years when an under the radar and discarded PL player like Mings comes in and looks a whole different level to what we've had for quite some time.

If we could somehow convince him to stay in the Championship and find the funds needed he'd be first on my summer buy list.

Yep. An under the radar and discarded PL player who was mostly thought of as a left back as well!

Mine too.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: KevinGage on March 05, 2019, 04:00:23 PM


Says a lot about our experience with centre backs over the last however many years when an under the radar and discarded PL player like Mings comes in and looks a whole different level to what we've had for quite some time.

If we could somehow convince him to stay in the Championship and find the funds needed he'd be first on my summer buy list.

Yep. An under the radar and discarded PL player who was mostly thought of as a left back as well!

Mine too.

I thought our CB pairing last season was alreet, TBH. The season before was fine as well when Beckenbaker slotted in instead of Elphick.

There are things I like about Mings, but we have still looked ropey at the back even after his arrival. That's not all on him, but Sheff U and Brentford away I thought he looked ropey.

That said, if the deal can be done for the right price, I'd take it. Covers us in two positions and age-wise, I think there is far more to come from him.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: ozzjim on March 10, 2019, 02:22:06 PM
Complete beast. Would love him signed.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: phantom limb on March 10, 2019, 02:23:20 PM
If we can sign him permanently it would be fantastic, he is an absolute beast.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: SoccerHQ on March 10, 2019, 02:33:42 PM
Been a huge surprise to me considering he's played most of his career at left back.

Would sign him without hesitation. He's a proper leader.

Also good in the air which is sort of partner Chester needs alongside him so he can drop off and read the player. If Chester can return and be his old self next season then we'd actually have a decent back line out from the first game.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: brontebilly on March 10, 2019, 02:34:24 PM
quality defender at our level, beast in the air and very tidy on the ball. Crying out for a better full back on the ball than Neil Taylor next him mind you
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Post by: SoccerHQ on March 10, 2019, 02:36:21 PM
quality defender at our level, beast in the air and very tidy on the ball. Crying out for a better full back on the ball than Neil Taylor next him mind you

Get Chester back next few weeks and Hause will move back there, he is very calm on the ball.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 10, 2019, 02:36:44 PM
quality defender at our level, beast in the air and very tidy on the ball. Crying out for a better full back on the ball than Neil Taylor next him mind you

Kortney Hause in time. What he will need if he can secure his signing is a really good right sided CB. We don't know much about the French lad we have at RB but can only hope he's solid and a significant step up to Hutton and Elmo.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: IFWaters on March 10, 2019, 03:13:33 PM
Any news on Axel? How about a back 4 of Mings, Chester, Axel and Korts?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: manic-road on March 10, 2019, 03:19:47 PM
Mings was immense today, has looked more than decent from day one in a Villa shirt.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: KRS on March 10, 2019, 03:59:47 PM
Mings is class. Sign him in the summer please.

Mings, Hause, Chester and possibly Elphick would be a good foundation if we are still in the Championship next season. Obviously we'll need to sort out the LB situation but this has the makings of a strong spine with Jack and SJM in midfield...and hopefully a strong CF to complete.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: supertom on March 10, 2019, 04:10:53 PM
I hope he signs permanently. Whether we go up or not. He's a good player. Today was Laursen-esque. He just won every header. Imperious.
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Post by: cdbullyweefan on March 10, 2019, 04:14:15 PM
I really like Mings the Merciless. Get him signed.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 10, 2019, 04:15:22 PM
I love him.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: West Derby Villan on March 10, 2019, 04:16:01 PM
He was immense today, a real classy player. Hope we get an opportunity to sign him.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: ChicagoLion on March 10, 2019, 04:53:06 PM
As some said, not seen such a dominant centre half performance since Lauren.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Fred Crump on March 10, 2019, 05:04:58 PM
No, I agree, I was literally begging for more the other night when she.. oh , wait, you mean Laursen donít you  ;D
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Sexual Ealing on March 10, 2019, 05:15:33 PM
He's fucking brilliant.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: cdbullyweefan on March 10, 2019, 05:43:14 PM
Shush. No he's not, he's absolute shite. If we offer £250k for him, Bournemouth would be mad not to snatch our hands off.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Sexual Ealing on March 10, 2019, 05:45:16 PM
Shush. No he's not, he's absolute shite. If we offer £250k for him, Bournemouth would be mad not to snatch our hands off.

Sorry, I thought this was the Neil Taylor thread.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: PaulWinch again on March 10, 2019, 05:45:22 PM
Very good, hope we somehow keep him.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: VILLA MOLE on March 10, 2019, 05:46:33 PM
Very good, hope we somehow keep him.


lets start with rope ??
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Clark W Griswold on March 10, 2019, 09:37:00 PM
If we don't sign this guy I'm going to have a fucking massive tantrum.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: adrenachrome on March 10, 2019, 10:05:44 PM
Quote

Matt Law
‏Verified account @Matt_Law_DT
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Last thought on the derby win today. Tyrone Mings, sign him up.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Newby on March 10, 2019, 10:22:26 PM
Great player.  Would love to keep him permanently. 
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: LowerNorthStand on March 11, 2019, 12:10:25 AM
Mings Mings Mings
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Post by: Risso on March 11, 2019, 02:36:12 AM
He was immense today.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Axl Rose on March 11, 2019, 03:27:16 AM
He was immense today.

This. Absolutely superb today. A giant.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: LukeJames on March 11, 2019, 06:20:15 AM
This guy suits us perfectly. He's only been here a while aswell but you can see that he gets the club.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Ads on March 11, 2019, 06:47:26 AM
He's very good. His diving header to block a through ball at the end summed his commitment up.
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Post by: fbriai on March 11, 2019, 08:08:26 AM
He is absolutely immense. Gets in the way of everything and they can't get the ball of him when he has it either. Hope he stays with us for a very, very long time.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: darren woolley on March 11, 2019, 10:07:21 AM
We really need to sign him up in the summer make him our first signing.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: LowerNorthStand on March 11, 2019, 11:05:37 AM
He's very good. His diving header to block a through ball at the end summed his commitment up.

Not seen a performance like that since Laursen. Mings seems a good fit for Villa.

House did very well too.

Quite a combo.

Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Risso on March 11, 2019, 11:13:54 AM
He genuinely seems to love it here.  No disrespect to Bournemouth or Ipswich at all, but I doubt's he's ever played in a game with an atmosphere like yesterday in his career before.  He's come in, and is now our main defender in a club getting 35,000 fans every week.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: chrisw1 on March 11, 2019, 11:16:15 AM
If we manage to get promoted I think there's a good chance he'll stay.  If not, I think there will be plenty of suitors in the PL who will fancy him.  We've done Bournemouth a massive favour putting him in the shop window for them.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: paul_e on March 11, 2019, 11:50:18 AM
If we manage to get promoted I think there's a good chance he'll stay.  If not, I think there will be plenty of suitors in the PL who will fancy him.  We've done Bournemouth a massive favour putting him in the shop window for them.

I'm not so sure. If we carry on playing as we are but either don't quite make the playoffs or we don't get through them I think plenty of players in the squad will think there's a very good chance we'll be promoted next year. Given how much Mings (and a few others) seem to enjoy playing for us I wouldn't be surprised if we keep most of them (Tammy is the really unlikely one) on the basis that we're aiming for the title next season, if the other offers aren't in the top half of the premier league they might decide that a season of winning games in a promotion push is better than a relegation battle.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: chrisw1 on March 11, 2019, 03:11:42 PM
If we manage to get promoted I think there's a good chance he'll stay.  If not, I think there will be plenty of suitors in the PL who will fancy him.  We've done Bournemouth a massive favour putting him in the shop window for them.

I'm not so sure. If we carry on playing as we are but either don't quite make the playoffs or we don't get through them I think plenty of players in the squad will think there's a very good chance we'll be promoted next year. Given how much Mings (and a few others) seem to enjoy playing for us I wouldn't be surprised if we keep most of them (Tammy is the really unlikely one) on the basis that we're aiming for the title next season, if the other offers aren't in the top half of the premier league they might decide that a season of winning games in a promotion push is better than a relegation battle.
But even if he's prepared to stay do you think we'll be able to afford him Paul?  He looks like a £10m + player to me.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: paul_e on March 11, 2019, 05:38:48 PM
If we manage to get promoted I think there's a good chance he'll stay.  If not, I think there will be plenty of suitors in the PL who will fancy him.  We've done Bournemouth a massive favour putting him in the shop window for them.

I'm not so sure. If we carry on playing as we are but either don't quite make the playoffs or we don't get through them I think plenty of players in the squad will think there's a very good chance we'll be promoted next year. Given how much Mings (and a few others) seem to enjoy playing for us I wouldn't be surprised if we keep most of them (Tammy is the really unlikely one) on the basis that we're aiming for the title next season, if the other offers aren't in the top half of the premier league they might decide that a season of winning games in a promotion push is better than a relegation battle.
But even if he's prepared to stay do you think we'll be able to afford him Paul?  He looks like a £10m + player to me.

No idea on that front.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Iamkmkm on March 11, 2019, 07:16:28 PM
What a rock, he is way to good for the championship, can't imagine we can keep hold of him in the summer.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Villafirst on March 11, 2019, 07:30:24 PM
He genuinely seems to love it here.  No disrespect to Bournemouth or Ipswich at all, but I doubt's he's ever played in a game with an atmosphere like yesterday in his career before.  He's come in, and is now our main defender in a club getting 35,000 fans every week.

Yes, Bournemouth capacity is under 11,000. VP is nearly 4 times the capacity. Crazy that Bournemouth are ahead of us....
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: robleflaneur on March 11, 2019, 07:31:18 PM
Sadly wouldn't surprise me if Bournemouth considered as a first team central defender.A class act.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: robleflaneur on March 11, 2019, 07:32:16 PM
Considered him,I mean.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: cheltenhamlion on March 11, 2019, 07:39:25 PM
I have the early trappings of a bit of man love for Mings.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Lastfootstamper on March 11, 2019, 07:50:51 PM
I love how he's taken charge back there. Dominating player, dominating personality. We've lacked those in recent times.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 11, 2019, 07:52:51 PM
I have the early trappings of a bit of man love for Mings.

Itís that feeling of warmth or a sudden glow that comes over you when watching him play or just laugh at the noses. Much like how one feels about Jack especially with him just smiling even after they sent on one of their fucking goons to assault him. Our refusal to rise to their bollocks yesterday fucked them off massively.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Smithy on March 11, 2019, 07:56:59 PM
I'll admit it's been a couple of years since I paid much attention to the Premier League, but how blessed are Bournemouth in central defence that they'd consider Mings surplus to requirements?

I'm just genuinely surprised any team outside the top 6 would be willing to let him go completely, given the performances we've seen from him.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: dave shelley on March 11, 2019, 08:00:27 PM
Did anyone else notice the playful clip on the back of Jack's head as they walked towards the away fans at the end of the game.  Nearly took Jacks fecking head off!  And that was just playful, imagine if he'd meant it.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Fred Crump on March 11, 2019, 08:02:17 PM
I have the early trappings of a bit of man love for Mings.
Hands off Chelts, I saw him first  :)
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 11, 2019, 08:03:08 PM
Did anyone else notice the playful clip on the back of Jack's head as they walked towards the away fans at the end of the game.  Nearly took Jacks fecking head off!  And that was just playful, imagine if he'd meant it.

I love him for this, you definitely want him in the tranches with you.

https://twitter.com/andrewstone85/status/1104872598155026432
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: john e on March 11, 2019, 08:10:13 PM
love him
Iíd love it more if we could sign him up for next season whatever league we are playing in
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Fred Crump on March 11, 2019, 08:23:29 PM
Did anyone else notice the playful clip on the back of Jack's head as they walked towards the away fans at the end of the game.  Nearly took Jacks fecking head off!  And that was just playful, imagine if he'd meant it.
I knew a lad from Redditch who was ABA heavyweight champion and I met him in the Kingfisher Shopping Centre and he gave me a friendly pat on the back. It was like being hit from behind by a bus and I couldnít breathe for about 5 minutes afterwards. Pity the poor buggers he dropped to the canvas. Much the same thing with our Tyrone.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: pauliewalnuts on March 11, 2019, 08:33:10 PM
He's been properly fucking brilliant.

Great player, and a real leader, too.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 11, 2019, 08:50:01 PM
And after the alleged stamping incident which I will always contend was accidental heís got better and better. In fact all itís proved is that heís one massive intimidating fucker.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: KRS on March 12, 2019, 04:24:39 AM
No idea how or why he ended up out on loan from Bournemouth, but he's their loss and our gain this season. He appears to be enjoying his football here so hopefully he'll have a say where he ends up playing if we can afford to sign him in the summer.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: mr underhill on March 12, 2019, 08:59:56 AM
can't see it if this form is maintained - if he keeps fit he'll have lots of PL offers. Anyway at the moment he makes everyone else look like weak earthlings.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: darren woolley on March 12, 2019, 09:41:21 AM
he's been a beast for us a brilliant defender he's got to be our first signing of the summer if we can get him signed up full time.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Dr Butler on March 12, 2019, 12:08:36 PM
I do like this guy...our Tyrone...

UTV
The Doc
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: KRS on March 12, 2019, 02:08:26 PM
It seems a long time since we've been able to say this but I feel much more confident in our defence with Mings at the back alongside Hause. If we don't go up and are able to keep the pair of them, then we should be solid defensively and we'll shut out many teams next season.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: West Derby Villan on March 12, 2019, 06:01:08 PM
As others have said, he playing so well for us, he is coming to the attention of the rest. Ho hum, may it continue, as we need him to play at his best to give us any chance of promotion.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Ian J on March 12, 2019, 08:07:33 PM
If only we had bought a decent centre half last summer. What a massive difference he makes. That with Jack back you never know, play offs just maybe?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Newby on March 12, 2019, 08:10:34 PM
This is a massive week and if we can build that momentum, who knows what might happen.  Mings and Hause are quality and I hope they both stay.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Matt Collins on March 13, 2019, 06:35:55 AM
Is have thought whoever goes up will be straight on for him

Hope it's us
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 13, 2019, 10:50:23 PM
He's probably had worse birthdays.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: brontebilly on March 14, 2019, 10:13:30 AM
To be fair to Bournemouth, their left sided centre back, Nathan Ake, they spent about 20m on and is a very good defender. Mings already looks the best defender in our division.

Hause is doing ok but I'll be a lot happier when the best defender in the division last season, Chester, is back fit. We will be very strong then. Elmo is playing well too, even Taylor has improved.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: JUAN PABLO on March 14, 2019, 11:21:34 AM
Makes me wonder why Howe brought in that Brentford defender for a few quid when he already had Mings .

Hes been excellent so far.     

Him and the look of Hause kind of remind me of Ugo and J Lloyd Samuel.

Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Confusious says on March 15, 2019, 12:47:02 AM
It would be great to be able to sign Mingís he is a good leader, he really shows team sprit & never say die attitude the one thing I have noticed is when one of the team is down he usually shows up & pushes the opponent out of the way when our physio is on
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: john e on March 16, 2019, 06:10:29 PM
Iíd love to sign him but his price will be 20m minimum I would think and every week that price goes up a bit

did we get an option to buy on him I forget
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 16, 2019, 06:15:39 PM
Apparently not, an option to match any bids. Which anyone can do anyway.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on March 16, 2019, 06:37:39 PM
Been a really good signing, the difference he and a fit Grealish have made is astonishing.

Grealish relieves pressure on the defence by keeping the ball higher up the pitch, and Mings is a really leader. The whole team are looking better.

Regards our new transfer recruitment set up, I was not hugely impressed with the window at the time. However Mings and Hause are looking like good signings now.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: andyh on March 16, 2019, 06:40:58 PM
The passage of play today after about 80 mins was stupendous.
He tackled and beat 2 of their players, brought the ball out to just before the half way line, got whacked, looked like he was going to pull up injured and then sent a spectacular through ball to McGinn (I think). It was brilliant.

He is too good for this division.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: KRS on March 16, 2019, 07:24:45 PM
Absolute beast. Excellent defender, good footballer and a natural leader. Iíll be gutted if we donít sign him.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Dante Lavelli on March 16, 2019, 07:44:04 PM
What did Brentford pay for Mepham at Brentford, arguably Mingsí replacement?  That should be gathered benchmark although Iíd pay more as heís such a good fit at villa.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: olaftab on March 16, 2019, 08:43:19 PM
It looks as though the son of God has arrived at Villa Park. No quite as skilful  but strong, calm and in total command and a bit more mobile than his ďDadĒ.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 16, 2019, 08:56:03 PM
We go up he'll stay with us. We'll have the money to get him and Tammy. I'd love Axel too. AT and Mings could be a superb long term partnership.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Ad@m on March 16, 2019, 08:57:46 PM
He is too good for this division.

This.

He's taking the piss half the time. Bournemouth must have some bloody good centre halves if he's not good enough for them.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 16, 2019, 09:01:47 PM
He is too good for this division.

This.

He's taking the piss half the time. Bournemouth must have some bloody good centre halves if he's not good enough for them.

what it tells you is the quality of the PL as much as anything else. Also should be noted that his PL appearances have been affected by his injuries and Bournemouth got other players in. That's why, not just Mings but also Jack, McGinn etc., they are all top Championship players but it is still a wait and see if they can replicate this in the PL which is so much faster and mentally quicker.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Hookeysmith on March 16, 2019, 09:11:54 PM
I've not been well for a few weeks so have missed a few games. Today I saw the game live and what a fuckingbeast of a player he is.
Cool, calm and so skilful.

If We go up I would break the bank for him
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Damo70 on March 16, 2019, 09:16:16 PM
I've not been well for a few weeks so have missed a few games. Today I saw the game live and what a fuckingbeast of a player he is.
Cool, calm and so skilful.

If We go up I would break the bank for him


Every time I see him play I think that I wouldn't want to fight him. He has a bit of the Allan Evans, Shaun Teale, Ugo Ehiogu aura about him.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 16, 2019, 09:19:55 PM
He's one of those player who just knows the damage he can do and walks away from it. But other players know it and fear it.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: olaftab on March 16, 2019, 10:43:58 PM
He is too good for this division.

This.

He's taking the piss half the time. Bournemouth must have some bloody good centre halves if he's not good enough for them.
However itís a different game when you face up to Aguero, Salah and Kane etc
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Colhint on March 16, 2019, 10:53:32 PM
quite right,he's only got two pockets.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Olof's Beard on March 16, 2019, 11:22:59 PM
He is some defender but he is also 26 yet has only played 80 odd league games. In face, he has only really played one full season, in which he was very impressive and convinced Bournemouth to buy him the summer after promotion.

Now four seasons on, he has only played about 20 games for them having got injured as soon as he arrived. I would imagine they are watching him closely as he gets this run of games and might becoming more reluctant to let him go regardless of which league we are in next year. Let's hope he stays fit and helps us into the play offs.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: SoccerHQ on March 16, 2019, 11:24:56 PM
He is too good for this division.

This.

He's taking the piss half the time. Bournemouth must have some bloody good centre halves if he's not good enough for them.

TBH he was always known as a left back, certainly played there breaking through at Ipswich and then Bournemouth played him there in first season up before he did his ACL.

He has been a huge surprise for me. The leader we've lacked for a long time at centre half for a start.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: KRS on March 16, 2019, 11:52:03 PM
From Wiki..

"On 26 June 2015, Mings signed for newly promoted Premier League club AFC Bournemouth on a four-year contract for an undisclosed fee, reported to be £8 million."

...so if that is correct and if my maths is right, then he's out of contract in the summer?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: KRS on March 16, 2019, 11:55:12 PM
From Transfer Market:

Joined: Jan 31, 2019
Contract until:   31.05.2019
on loan from: AFC Bournemouth
Contract there until: 30.06.2022

...looks like the Wiki is only about 3 years off.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: West Derby Villan on March 16, 2019, 11:59:14 PM
Class act.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: KRS on March 17, 2019, 12:07:27 AM
It looks as though Mings signed a new Bournemouth contract extension in 2017, however we do have an interesting loan clause apparently according to this Daily Express article:

Quote
Aston Villa agree bizarre clause in Tyrone Mings deal after he completes medical at club

ASTON VILLA are set to offer a contract which includes an unusual clause to Bournemouth defender Tyrone Mings.

Aston Villa are currently overseeing Mingsí medical at the club, but the proposed deal contains a bizarre clause.

According to Sky Sports reporter Rob Dorsett, the deal includes a Ďmatching optioní.

That clause gives Villa the chance to sign the former Ipswich defender on a permanent deal at the end of the season if they match the value of the highest offer from another club.


Dorsett tweeted: ďavfc have agreed terms with #Bournemouth over a loan deal for Tyrone Mings.

ďIt includes a ďmatching optionĒ clause which means that Villa will be able to match any offer that comes in to buy him in the summer.

ďHe has completed his medical, and only finer points to conclude.Ē

Mings joined Bournemouth for an estimated £8m from Ipswich in 2015, but injuries have seen his opportunities limited.

The 25-year-old has only played 19 times in four full seasons, with his future at the Cherries looking bleak.

Eddie Howe revealed before the 4-0 win over Chelsea that incomings are unlikely, but Mings is likely to leave.

"We'll wait and see on what happens with Tyrone,Ē Howe said.

He added: ďHe's been unlucky since he signed for the club, so there's a possibility be could be an outgoing."

Mings could be in Villa's squad for Saturday's Championship showdown with Reading.

Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: CpF on March 17, 2019, 02:14:57 AM
So it will come down to Villa having to pay a massive fee to Bournemouth, even in the unlikely event that no other club wants him. And if they do it will depend on where he wants to be.

But if we win promotion I think it would be worth breaking the bank to try to sign him. First top class defender we've had since Laursen, and Laursen was as much a key player as Grealish is now.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Nastylee on March 17, 2019, 12:53:55 PM
Let's be honest, Mings won't be anywhere the Championship next season. The only way he remains a Villa player is if we somehow go up. This was a get fit exercise that we are benefiting from but once he proves his injuries are behind him there are clubs higher up the food chain than us in pole position. Whether we like it or not, it's all about the Prem and we're not going to convince the likes of Mings, or Grealish for that matter, to keep hanging about hoping next year will be the one.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: paul_e on March 17, 2019, 05:51:02 PM
So it will come down to Villa having to pay a massive fee to Bournemouth, even in the unlikely event that no other club wants him. And if they do it will depend on where he wants to be.

But if we win promotion I think it would be worth breaking the bank to try to sign him. First top class defender we've had since Laursen, and Laursen was as much a key player as Grealish is now.

I suspect the clause is that there's a minimum fee (let's say £5m) that we can sign him for but if any other club offers more then the fee becomes whatever that offer is. It's the only way it makes sense for the clause to be in the contract, for me.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: CpF on March 17, 2019, 08:26:00 PM
I suspect the clause is that there's a minimum fee (let's say £5m) that we can sign him for but if any other club offers more then the fee becomes whatever that offer is. It's the only way it makes sense for the clause to be in the contract, for me.

You're probably right, although he's likely exceeded everyone's expectations to the point where big bids will line up and that figure effectively becomes meaningless. So to sign him for next season we'll need all 3 of: Winning promotion; Mings wanting to stay and Villa matching the biggest offer from other clubs. I think it's a long shot, but would love to be wrong.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 17, 2019, 08:29:58 PM
Again, like Jack at this level, Mings is playing in the Championship against Championship quality forwards. Most of the teams are massively average and as we can see even the promoted ones often struggle. If we get promoted we will want to keep him and I imagine that will fetch a premium because of how WE value him. But as good as he has been and heís been really good heís not proven at PL level and will be priced accordingly.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 20, 2019, 08:56:00 PM
Man love for Tyrone

https://twitter.com/avfchistory/status/1108382026003038208?s=12
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Newby on March 20, 2019, 09:41:28 PM
With this matching offer, does it mean we have to wait until someone actually makes an offer before we agree a fee?  This could end up going to wire if so.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Dazvillain on March 21, 2019, 09:02:10 AM
Theyíll be looking for around 12-15 million apparently. He wonít want championship football and I wouldnít have thought we could splash that much in current league ?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: cdbullyweefan on March 21, 2019, 09:47:33 AM
I love him. He's a beast, but not in the Michael Jackson sense.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Uknowthescore on March 21, 2019, 01:08:43 PM


Great stuff really hope he signs.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: andyh on March 21, 2019, 01:16:50 PM
More impressed that Michelle Owen is involved ❤️
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: D.boy on March 22, 2019, 02:48:21 PM
Sliders and socks!
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: West Derby Villan on March 22, 2019, 03:12:41 PM
Sliders and socks!

The way he's played since he's been with us, I'll overlook that indiscretion
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 30, 2019, 05:57:50 PM
This guy

https://twitter.com/villareport/status/1112037385112571904?s=12
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: itbrvilla on March 30, 2019, 06:17:58 PM
He's  the best CB on the ball other than Terry I've seen in a Villa shirt.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: VILLA MOLE on March 30, 2019, 06:41:27 PM
This guy

https://twitter.com/villareport/status/1112037385112571904?s=12


I think he is enjoying playing for us
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: cheltenhamlion on March 30, 2019, 07:43:16 PM
Mings was superb for us again today.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: frank on March 30, 2019, 07:53:28 PM
He's  the best CB on the ball other than Terry I've seen in a Villa shirt.
A future Villa captain, I hope
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: itmustbe_it is! on March 30, 2019, 10:14:53 PM
Tyrone Mings my Lord, Tyrone Mings.....

too soon???
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: West Derby Villan on March 31, 2019, 12:28:01 AM
Tyrone Mings my Lord, Tyrone Mings.....

too soon???

Definitely YES, but I totally understand where you're coming from, he's absolute class.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: KRS on March 31, 2019, 02:11:09 AM
MIngs will become a Villa legend if we have the opportunity to keep him.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: CT on March 31, 2019, 10:35:37 AM
Colossus again yesterday. It's almost like someone is playing FIFA with him and they've cheated by changing all his stats to 100.

Was he injured near the end? I noticed he didn't bother coming up for a later corner, although maybe that was just insurance in case Blackburn counter attacked.

He'll be a ledge for us if we can find a way to keep him.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: olaftab on March 31, 2019, 10:45:47 AM
CT that lying flat and requesting a Physio on pitch and staying back for the McGinn corner was all total professionalism. The bloke has mental and physical strength.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: olaftab on March 31, 2019, 10:47:28 AM
He's  the best CB on the ball other than Terry I've seen in a Villa shirt.
A future Villa captain, I hope
What ? May be when Jack retires in 10 years time. :)
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: chrisw1 on March 31, 2019, 02:45:56 PM
Heís outstanding.  Iíd love him to stay but I think Bournemouth may decide to keep him.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on March 31, 2019, 04:50:04 PM


I don't know if anyone else noticed, but as soon as he scored yesterday and the fans sung a song for him he went to pot and lost the ball more in the space of a few minutes than i've seen him do in his entire time here combined.

Good to know he is in fact human after all.

Beast.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: West Derby Villan on March 31, 2019, 06:02:01 PM


I don't know if anyone else noticed, but as soon as he scored yesterday and the fans sung a song for him he went to pot and lost the ball more in the space of a few minutes than i've seen him do in his entire time here combined.

Good to know he is in fact human after all.

Beast.

Yeah I noticed that, but immediately thought I was imagining it, because the Beast making mistakes is a totally absurd concept.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: ColinMac on March 31, 2019, 09:15:26 PM
If Iím being really picky, he needs to use his right foot for more than just stamping on peopleís faces.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: in exile on April 01, 2019, 11:19:10 AM
If Iím being really picky, he needs to use his right foot for more than just stamping on peopleís faces.

Who's a clever boy then?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: andyh on April 01, 2019, 11:22:42 AM
If Iím being really picky, he needs to use his right foot for more than just stamping on peopleís faces.
Just what is the fucking point of shit like this?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: ColinMac on April 01, 2019, 01:57:39 PM
If I’m being really picky, he needs to use his right foot for more than just stamping on people’s faces.
Just what is the fucking point of shit like this?

What the fucking point  of your shit post? I was making the point that Mings is totally left footed, so you didn't like the joke at the end of it, ignore it.  Point still stands.. as bloody brilliant as Mings is, hes got to use his right foot a lot more than he does now.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: GordonCowansisthegreatest on April 01, 2019, 02:16:37 PM
If I’m being really picky, he needs to use his right foot for more than just stamping on people’s faces.
Just what is the fucking point of shit like this?

What the fucking point  of your shit post? I was making the point that Mings is totally left footed, so you didn't like the joke at the end of it, ignore it.  Point still stands.. as bloody brilliant as Mings is, hes got to use his right foot a lot more than he does now.
That's a joke!!!
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: chrisw1 on April 02, 2019, 09:58:20 AM
The papers seem to be trying to sell Nathan Ake to some of the big clubs for £40m or so.  That wouldn't bode well for our already slim chance of holding on to Tyrone.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: OzVilla on April 02, 2019, 10:01:20 AM
His agent will be more like,  the papers just need something to print. 
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: ColinMac on April 02, 2019, 04:34:18 PM
If I’m being really picky, he needs to use his right foot for more than just stamping on people’s faces.
Just what is the fucking point of shit like this?

What the fucking point  of your shit post? I was making the point that Mings is totally left footed, so you didn't like the joke at the end of it, ignore it.  Point still stands.. as bloody brilliant as Mings is, hes got to use his right foot a lot more than he does now.
That's a joke!!!

Watch him next game, its all left foot, albeit a great left foot, but still all left foot.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: kieron on April 02, 2019, 05:15:58 PM
Beggars belief that someone could find something to moan about with Tyrone.

He could steal my kids and my girlfriend and I'd still buy a shirt with his name on it.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Dante Lavelli on April 02, 2019, 05:27:21 PM
I thought it was funny.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: ColinMac on April 02, 2019, 08:23:39 PM
Beggars belief that someone could find something to moan about with Tyrone.

He could steal my kids and my girlfriend and I'd still buy a shirt with his name on it.
. Who is moaning? Iím just suggesting he could be even better.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Clampy on April 02, 2019, 08:56:02 PM
I'm not bothered what foot he relies on as long as he keeps playing the way he is.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: wittonwarrior on April 07, 2019, 02:05:03 PM
Probably his poorest game for us yesterday.  He needs to  rely upon what he is good at rather than try to be a Paul McGrath
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: GXVilla on April 07, 2019, 02:38:32 PM
Agreed. I think he's hugely talented and is probably finding the Championship a bit too easy, which means that bad habits are creeping in.

If he keeps it simple, he is awesome at this level.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Toronto Villa on April 07, 2019, 03:21:46 PM
He had ONE performance of a lesser level than the outstandingly high standard he's set. Let's not over analyze it. Bad habits? C'mon really?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: wittonwarrior on April 07, 2019, 04:21:08 PM
He was too flashy yesterday lost the boy twice in bad positions. If that’s had been the likes of Hutton or Chester we would have been all over him- the penalty though was just one of them things
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: themossman on April 10, 2019, 10:02:44 PM
That was coming for Mings. He misses Hause and the performance was petulant and brainless. Trying to skin players halfway up the pitch, Micah Richards esque??

For all his great games, he was poor tonight on many levels.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Rudy65 on April 10, 2019, 10:06:20 PM
That was coming for Mings. He misses Hause and the performance was petulant and brainless. Trying to skin players halfway up the pitch, Micah Richards esque??

For all his great games, he was poor tonight on many levels.

Agreed. But one game. Wake up call for him. The Ďstampsí in his career show he loses his cool as he did for the first booking
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: LeeB on April 10, 2019, 10:10:45 PM
Shit happens.

He's still great, and he's still a huge reason why we've got to where we have.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: andyh on April 10, 2019, 10:12:31 PM
Shit happens.

He's still great, and he's still a huge reason why we've got to where we have.
Agreed.
A rest on Saturday and heíll be back, all guns blazing.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Newby on April 10, 2019, 10:19:07 PM
Shame he misses such a crucial game.  I don't know why he was booked for the first time?  Was defo a penalty though, although the booking is a double punishment and referee's are not supposed to do that any more unless it denies a certain goal.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: themossman on April 10, 2019, 10:22:28 PM
First was a card all day long. Classic player gets caught out and takes a card to kill off the counter. No objections from him.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: themossman on April 10, 2019, 10:24:22 PM
But yes I agree with the above he’s a great player has plenty of credit in the bank.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: ChicagoLion on April 10, 2019, 10:27:15 PM
I think the last couple of games suggest there are some issues.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Risso on April 10, 2019, 10:29:05 PM
Shit happens.

He's still great, and he's still a huge reason why we've got to where we have.
Agreed.
A rest on Saturday and heíll be back, all guns blazing.

Agreed.  He was pretty crap against Wednesday, and poor again tonight.  Hopefully the game off will both recharge his batteries and also show that he needs to focus.  At his best he's been brilliant for us, but he can't get complacent.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: paul_e on April 10, 2019, 10:57:30 PM
Shame he misses such a crucial game.  I don't know why he was booked for the first time?  Was defo a penalty though, although the booking is a double punishment and referee's are not supposed to do that any more unless it denies a certain goal.

I'm really not sure, the angle that's been shown so far looks 50/50 at most. For me the way the ball bounces away and his reaction suggests it's either chest or shoulder. Either way I agree that to give a yellow card as well was just shit from the ref (and I'd say the same for the Kodj pen as well, but that guy committed about 6-7 fouls so his yellow was well deserved even if it wasn't given for the right reason).
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: bones. on April 10, 2019, 11:15:04 PM
Does a red card always mean the next game missed ? I thought it was the one after.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Lastfootstamper on April 10, 2019, 11:18:25 PM
Does a red card always mean the next game missed ? I thought it was the one after.

Nope, they don't hang around these days. Instant ban.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: bones. on April 10, 2019, 11:25:58 PM
Bloody hell, when did the football authorities get to be so efficient , that's not like them.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Villafirst on April 10, 2019, 11:33:50 PM
Ffs give Mings a break! Suddenly he's a scapegoat! McGinn has 13 bookings - no player is perfect!
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Risso on April 10, 2019, 11:37:59 PM
Ffs give Mings a break! Suddenly he's a scapegoat! McGinn has 13 bookings - no player is perfect!

Where has anybody said anything to suggest he's a scapegoat?

Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: themossman on April 10, 2019, 11:38:31 PM
Scapegoat? Dont think theres anyone in the thread not giving the credit hes due tbh. He was poor tonight, and against Wednesday. And McGinn gets criticised for pointless yellow cards as well.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: KRS on April 11, 2019, 12:14:37 AM
Ffs give Mings a break! Suddenly he's a scapegoat! McGinn has 13 bookings - no player is perfect!
SJM has 12 bookings.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: mr underhill on April 11, 2019, 07:03:33 AM
Is an appeal likely?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: nigel on April 11, 2019, 07:09:58 AM
Will he miss Bristol game?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: paul_e on April 11, 2019, 09:48:04 AM
Will he miss Bristol game?

Yes

Is an appeal likely?

No, it's 2 yellows so can't be appealed. All that could happen is that the ref reverses one of the decisions but that never happens.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Pete3206 on April 11, 2019, 09:52:20 AM
What ludicrous rule. It was clearly the wrong decision
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on April 11, 2019, 10:22:56 AM
Itís bollocks when you consider Boroís Ayala had his red card overturned so he could face us recently, following a far worse offence.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Diablo on April 11, 2019, 10:30:09 AM
For the first yellow card Mings was guilty of overplaying it in the middle of the pitch but he was hit in the back of the neck with a forearm (which I thought was a free kick) and I think that was what caused him to lose his head and retaliate. 
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: andyh on April 11, 2019, 10:57:17 AM
For the first yellow card Mings was guilty of overplaying it in the middle of the pitch but he was hit in the back of the neck with a forearm (which I thought was a free kick) and I think that was what caused him to lose his head and retaliate. 
Indeed. That fucker has 2 pops at Mings in that move, a kick and an elbow. The free kick should have been ours before Mings reacted.
Their number 4 was a cheating, moaning, whinging, snidey fucker the whole game.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: AV82EC on April 11, 2019, 12:15:20 PM
For the first yellow card Mings was guilty of overplaying it in the middle of the pitch but he was hit in the back of the neck with a forearm (which I thought was a free kick) and I think that was what caused him to lose his head and retaliate. 
Indeed. That fucker has 2 pops at Mings in that move, a kick and an elbow. The free kick should have been ours before Mings reacted.
Their number 4 was a cheating, moaning, whinging, snidey fucker the whole game.

What was clear though was that Grealish was winding him up all night, as I saw several smiles and exchanges between the two of them. All sorted with a hug and handshake at the end of the game though.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Diablo on April 11, 2019, 12:27:41 PM
For the first yellow card Mings was guilty of overplaying it in the middle of the pitch but he was hit in the back of the neck with a forearm (which I thought was a free kick) and I think that was what caused him to lose his head and retaliate. 
Indeed. That fucker has 2 pops at Mings in that move, a kick and an elbow. The free kick should have been ours before Mings reacted.
Their number 4 was a cheating, moaning, whinging, snidey fucker the whole game.
Just watched the challenge again and Vaulks left a knee in at the same time as the forearm lol. To be fair to Vaulks as you say he was all those things/ well up for it all game (which as a fan of a team in a relegation fight is exactly what you want) - besides the fowling and whinging to the ref he scored their pen and took the long throws too. I put it down to the piss poor ref and his team letting him get away with it (even the Rotherham fans were booing the ref at half time when they were winning, despite giving them a pen and sending Mings off  - that's pretty impressive and just shows just how pish they were!!). That being said...what a game and what a ride!
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: wittonwarrior on April 11, 2019, 03:16:57 PM
Unlucky with the penalty and second yellow.  How the ref could know whether it was a yellow is beyond me as he appeared to have missed  the incident and it was  the lino who looked to have decided  the incident.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: paul_e on April 11, 2019, 06:40:29 PM
Even if the ref is certain it was from his arm it's clear that he was intending to use his chest and had done everything you'd reasonably expect to get his arm out of the way, which is hard to reconcile with him getting a yellow card.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: footyskillz on April 17, 2019, 11:06:26 AM
Play jedinak again v Bolton and not Mings who can come back in for Millwall.
Mings in last 2 games he started has dropped off in performance.
He was schooled by Fletcher v Sheff Wednesday the striker out thinking and out muscling constantly .
Also gave away the pen because of his poor position and defending .
Then  Rotherham he wasn't great though it was laugable his first yellow card for his challenge as didn't seem to do much ! but his handling was poor literally in leading to his sending off and giving away pen
He's given away 2 pens and for all his qualities he's been shown up and a bit of reality check
I think part of it is playing with Tuanzebe and adjusting new partnership after hause went off against Wednesday but he was severally caught out in that match and had a real struggle against Fletcher.
Like how mcginn didn't just walk back in jedinak should be keeping his place Mings made to wait and understand his errors have lead to goals and he has no divine right to be back in team.
I like to think he'll come back stronger and don't get me wrong I recognize his qualities and what he brings however players have to play way back in and Jedinak and Tuanzebe are the two.
If Mings was put back in Tuanzebe left out because he didn't head it out for goal against Bristol city and isn't as good as Mings
My point really is that we have a stronger squad and that players who fall out of team aren't as missed as much as we could have feared.
Indeed we actually improved v Rotherham without Mings anf maybe that was him being complacency . He may do that against Bolton but any of our defence think can cope with Bolton attack.
Generally I see Mings as a first choicer however walking back in to team shouldn't be cut and dried.
Smithy wanted competition for places and think that what we seeing
Good performances should be rewarded. Mings didn't do that in last 2 starts.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Duncan Shaw on April 17, 2019, 11:11:47 AM
Can't agree Skillz, Mings straight back in for me!!
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: footyskillz on April 17, 2019, 11:22:45 AM
Can't agree Skillz, Mings straight back in for me!!

Fair enough Duncan however who comes out and I think it's not a straight forward decision.
I also feel I am accurate to say his last 2 matches haven't been as good as his previous . It's hard to keep consistent and maybe he needs a slight rest with all the football.
He wouldn't be so missed against Bolton

Though be brings a heck of a lot and not just balance to the centre defence I think it's something to note the squad all round is showing capabilities
I mean I would be ok with Abraham being benched for Davis too. Lansbury to have a run out .
If ever a time to give break it's against Bolton's beleaguers .
And this match can reward the Jedinak and Tuanzebe

Though if Smith wants to pick his best players then he takes Mings .
Why upset other players and  why change a winning side when another match comes up Monday ?
It actually teaches Mings and squad something too.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: chrisw1 on April 17, 2019, 11:51:25 AM
I've always liked Jedi and I think people underestimate how important he was for us in his first couple of seasons. 

He certainly deserves credit for how he's played in the last two games and in particular getting up to speed so quickly when he hasn't had a kick for months.  But Mings is on a different level and has mostly been fantastic for us.  He's had his rest and straight back in for me too.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: tomd2103 on April 17, 2019, 12:02:00 PM
I've always liked Jedi and I think people underestimate how important he was for us in his first couple of seasons. 

He certainly deserves credit for how he's played in the last two games and in particular getting up to speed so quickly when he hasn't had a kick for months.  But Mings is on a different level and has mostly been fantastic for us.  He's had his rest and straight back in for me too.

Me too.  As we have seen in the past, Jedinak can be a decent enough stop gap option at CB, but is prone to having the odd nightmare here and there.  Mings has to go straight back in.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Drummond on April 17, 2019, 12:13:54 PM
Can't agree Skillz, Mings straight back in for me!!

Fair enough Duncan however who comes out and I think it's not a straight forward decision.
I also feel I am accurate to say his last 2 matches haven't been as good as his previous . It's hard to keep consistent and maybe he needs a slight rest with all the football.
He wouldn't be so missed against Bolton

Though be brings a heck of a lot and not just balance to the centre defence I think it's something to note the squad all round is showing capabilities
I mean I would be ok with Abraham being benched for Davis too. Lansbury to have a run out .
If ever a time to give break it's against Bolton's beleaguers .
And this match can reward the Jedinak and Tuanzebe

Though if Smith wants to pick his best players then he takes Mings .
Why upset other players and  why change a winning side when another match comes up Monday ?
It actually teaches Mings and squad something too.

Of course it's straightforward, don't be ridiculous.

Our bets Centre Back is fit and able to play, you don't play a midfielder there in his place to teach him something. Unless you're Steve Bruce.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: kieron on April 17, 2019, 05:57:51 PM
For anyone to suggest that Tyrone shouldn't be going straight back in against Bolton needs to give their head a bloody good, hard, vigorous wobble.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Villafirst on April 17, 2019, 06:22:31 PM
It'll be good to see Tyrone and Axel as the centre back pairing for this game. Hause should be ready after Millwall...
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: CT on April 17, 2019, 06:59:50 PM
Mings has to come straight back for this, a no brainier for me.

Looking forward to seeing him and The Axe at the back.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: PaulWinch again on April 17, 2019, 08:34:02 PM
Mings starts clearly.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Newby on April 17, 2019, 08:42:52 PM
Square pegs, square holes.  Why take risks?  Jedinak was great in his last two games but is a central midfielder when Mings is a central, left sided defender. No debate required really, which is a shame as this is a forum for exactly that!
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: footyskillz on April 17, 2019, 11:03:18 PM
Well there is debate as there is a consideration like when Mcginn didn't get back in midfield v blues after suspension as villa won 4-0 against lampards derby county without him.
Though I get why many wouldn't even consider having Mings out- it's an actual possibility though the Ayes clearly have it.

Ayes for left footed  balance to central defence  and the beastiality of his defending as well as his raking passing and starting footballing attacks and looking reassured on ball

The noes chiefly because in  his last 2 starting appreance of matches Mingsy gave away two pens. Two goals scored and was sent off. His performance below par .
Also playing Bolton
Also others have played fine and there is a game Monday

It's clearly to bed now as no one is entertaining the notion .
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Axl Rose on April 17, 2019, 11:13:33 PM
Well there is debate as there is a consideration like when Mcginn didn't get back in midfield v blues after suspension as villa won 4-0 against lampards derby county without him.
Though I get why many wouldn't even consider having Mings out- it's an actual possibility though the Ayes clearly have it.

Ayes for left footed  balance to central defence  and the beastiality of his defending as well as his raking passing and starting footballing attacks and looking reassured on ball

The noes chiefly because in  his last 2 starting appreance of matches Mingsy gave away two pens. Two goals scored and was sent off. His performance below par .
Also playing Bolton
Also others have played fine and there is a game Monday

It's clearly to bed now as no one is entertaining the notion .


Oh footy, please give it a rest. It's as if you've got some weird obsession with McGinn and Mings. Leave them be. Just enjoy the fact that we've got some good players. Smith will know what to do.

'beastiality of his defending'...you're killing me.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: themossman on April 17, 2019, 11:14:45 PM
Mings and AT looked an unconvincing pair to me, but then AT has looked much more like himself from the second half of Rotherham onwards so his upturn in form will probably sort that.

Jedi strikes me as the last player on earth who would throw his toys about being dropped.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Legion on April 17, 2019, 11:16:04 PM
The consumate professional.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: footyskillz on April 17, 2019, 11:42:19 PM
Well there is debate as there is a consideration like when Mcginn didn't get back in midfield v blues after suspension as villa won 4-0 against lampards derby county without him.
Though I get why many wouldn't even consider having Mings out- it's an actual possibility though the Ayes clearly have it.

Ayes for left footed  balance to central defence  and the beastiality of his defending as well as his raking passing and starting footballing attacks and looking reassured on ball

The noes chiefly because in  his last 2 starting appreance of matches Mingsy gave away two pens. Two goals scored and was sent off. His performance below par .
Also playing Bolton
Also others have played fine and there is a game Monday

It's clearly to bed now as no one is entertaining the notion .


Oh footy, please give it a rest. It's as if you've got some weird obsession with McGinn and Mings. Leave them be. Just enjoy the fact that we've got some good players. Smith will know what to do.

'beastiality of his defending'...you're killing me.

Yeah and I crucify you for such a comment on weird obsession. The fawning is from every one else. I swoon for them too but !
You know something :as a justice seeker actually there is a generally obsession with these two from many others watterling on about their undeniable talents yet you get on my comments not others (repeated ones) who petal romance the qualities we all know about these two!
Yeah Soo weird.

For Mings he's at  levels of what I call fish and chip defending that is he's not a simple  bread and butter defender he can chip the ball and he can batter an opponent

The Scott who likes booking yeah we get the point he runs around yet that doesn't get stepped on when he read for the 516th time he ran around (what about those cards yeah!) yeah it's like when I lay my fuchsias it gets weirdly unnoticed
And believe you flower lips my fuchsias are a blooming sight
I love the wonderful bombastic midfield dynamism of Mcginn . That prowess is a meat ball and shoulders above any other midfielder (one that I wholeheartedly agree on and even vegans would actually savor)  but am I not  allowed to bring up these points I make on both ? Because it's detrimental to the character and the lovely ideals others weirdly obsess over and not me !?

I know it's  easter time and all but this cover up of how players do no wrong is something that Pope Benedict XVI would nt even allow.
Yours obsessively in liking a balance + accurate view of players
Footy skillz
Up the villa.

I have no more comment untill JC is resurrection because clearly we can only say certain things without trying to be shamed.
Rest is on .
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Legion on April 17, 2019, 11:52:35 PM
Just what are you wittering on about?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: cdbullyweefan on April 17, 2019, 11:58:01 PM
Is it 42?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: danno on April 18, 2019, 12:09:40 AM
https://youtu.be/zDev4g-cXCA
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Axl Rose on April 18, 2019, 12:44:09 AM
Well there is debate as there is a consideration like when Mcginn didn't get back in midfield v blues after suspension as villa won 4-0 against lampards derby county without him.
Though I get why many wouldn't even consider having Mings out- it's an actual possibility though the Ayes clearly have it.

Ayes for left footed  balance to central defence  and the beastiality of his defending as well as his raking passing and starting footballing attacks and looking reassured on ball

The noes chiefly because in  his last 2 starting appreance of matches Mingsy gave away two pens. Two goals scored and was sent off. His performance below par .
Also playing Bolton
Also others have played fine and there is a game Monday

It's clearly to bed now as no one is entertaining the notion .


Oh footy, please give it a rest. It's as if you've got some weird obsession with McGinn and Mings. Leave them be. Just enjoy the fact that we've got some good players. Smith will know what to do.

'beastiality of his defending'...you're killing me.

Yeah and I crucify you for such a comment on weird obsession. The fawning is from every one else. I swoon for them too but !
You know something :as a justice seeker actually there is a generally obsession with these two from many others watterling on about their undeniable talents yet you get on my comments not others (repeated ones) who petal romance the qualities we all know about these two!
Yeah Soo weird.

For Mings he's at  levels of what I call fish and chip defending that is he's not a simple  bread and butter defender he can chip the ball and he can batter an opponent

The Scott who likes booking yeah we get the point he runs around yet that doesn't get stepped on when he read for the 516th time he ran around (what about those cards yeah!) yeah it's like when I lay my fuchsias it gets weirdly unnoticed
And believe you flower lips my fuchsias are a blooming sight
I love the wonderful bombastic midfield dynamism of Mcginn . That prowess is a meat ball and shoulders above any other midfielder (one that I wholeheartedly agree on and even vegans would actually savor)  but am I not  allowed to bring up these points I make on both ? Because it's detrimental to the character and the lovely ideals others weirdly obsess over and not me !?

I know it's  easter time and all but this cover up of how players do no wrong is something that Pope Benedict XVI would nt even allow.
Yours obsessively in liking a balance + accurate view of players
Footy skillz
Up the villa.

I have no more comment untill JC is resurrection because clearly we can only say certain things without trying to be shamed.
Rest is on .

Haha. Ok, footy. Fair enough

It's nice to see other posters 'watterling on' about players plus points. We haven't had much in the way of such talents over recent years.

Enough with the religious stuff though, eh.

Up the Villa, footy.

It's too early here to engage in arguments.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: KevinGage on April 18, 2019, 01:03:39 AM
Footyskitz, do you post under the alias Weihan Zhang on twitter by any chance?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: nodge on April 18, 2019, 10:03:17 AM
https://youtu.be/zDev4g-cXCA

Brilliant
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Legion on April 18, 2019, 10:04:32 AM
Ha!
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: mr underhill on April 18, 2019, 03:00:53 PM
DD was based on Terry Thomas.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Bad English on April 18, 2019, 04:58:30 PM
https://youtu.be/zDev4g-cXCA

Brilliant
Hahaha!
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Newby on April 18, 2019, 08:21:02 PM
Footy, have you been at the communion wine?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Comrade Blitz on April 18, 2019, 08:34:07 PM
Just what are you wittering on about?

Wittering about watterling. That last post sounds like Nigella Lawson wrote it FFS
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: GarTomas on April 19, 2019, 08:27:27 AM
Fish and chip defending is brilliant to be fair.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: LeeB on April 19, 2019, 08:28:42 AM
Fish and chip defending is brilliant to be fair.

Especially when you're getting battered.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Bren'd on April 19, 2019, 09:20:29 AM
Fish and chip defending is brilliant to be fair.

It is. Ainít got a clue what it means though.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: footyskillz on April 19, 2019, 11:02:00 AM
Fish and chip defending is brilliant to be fair.

It is. Ainít got a clue what it means though.

So the UK English have saying I learn call bread and butter saying
This means it's the basics and ordinary it's simple . There for it's the simple defending
Think Nathan Baker ,always ! despite my fondness also always , he's a bread and butter defender. Of course it's his destiny coming from a baking family heritage . That how these surnames work 

Now onto fish and chip
I coined this for a man like Tyrone because it's recognition for another level and superior abilities

To relate it culinary wise I then took the historic and traditional UK dish fish and chips (which I am over familiar with -ejoyed today due to good Friday traditions too irrelevant news but a personal share)

So then to the actual mechanics
Fish = battered . Like the dish. So therefore Tyrone has shown his beastaility in stamping his way . He also demonstrate that he generally physically in propelling of opposition players to get to the ball. Impression of battering and can handle and give one!
That is the battered

Chips= now this is reference to his ability to play more than just a pass or kick or good out to defence .
He can chip or chips the ball and pass over to get it to our other players. It takes skillz which is something I appreciate. And not all players can do this.

So there it is fish and chip (maybe should be chips) defending.
The dish is something that is most recognized and respected and much loved and enjoyed. It's also the top dish . Bread and butter is the basics this is just the advance .
So the dishes bread and butter is fish and chip to Mings. He makes the good defending attributes (stamping aside) his staple diet

Tyrone Mings defensive abilities are that feast of fish and chips ok and this the English love and appreciate!

Comprador

Happy great Friday .

UTV

Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Bad English on April 19, 2019, 11:05:52 AM
And he can place a good pass.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Legion on April 19, 2019, 11:06:38 AM
Nice analogy.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: footyskillz on April 19, 2019, 11:22:22 AM
Nice analogy.
I long thought that was a version of apology maybe it is!
Bad English can tell us

And he can place a good pass.

And on that B.E. yes in a good plaice!
Though for the fish I look at it as the composition I didn't want to get all fishery with it.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: KRS on April 19, 2019, 11:24:22 AM
Cod anyone do batter than Mings?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Fred Crump on April 19, 2019, 11:35:09 AM
Reminds me of Mitchell and Webbís Fish and Chip sketch
https://youtu.be/M_bbU_BUIC0
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Ads on April 19, 2019, 11:35:50 AM
He didn't stamp. He's also not fucked any animals.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: paul_e on April 19, 2019, 11:45:24 AM
He didn't stamp. He's also not fucked any animals.

I agree on the first bit but for the rest lets not forget he played for Ipswich for a fair while.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Legion on April 19, 2019, 11:46:07 AM
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/analogy
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: thick_mike on April 19, 2019, 12:06:58 PM
Oh god, someoneís mentioned fish on H&V...thereíll be another ruddy punathon.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Sexual Ealing on April 19, 2019, 12:17:46 PM
He didn't stamp. He's also not fucked any animals.

I agree on the first bit but for the rest lets not forget he played for Ipswich for a fair while.

Ha! As a former resident of Norwich (where that kind of thing has been taboo since the 1990s) I'd say that in matters of animal romance it's unlikely that any stripe of Ipshitter will be totally without form.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: in exile on April 19, 2019, 02:36:14 PM
Oh god, someoneís mentioned fish on H&V...thereíll be another ruddy punathon.

I'm just going to perch here and see if it happens
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: XXVilla on April 19, 2019, 03:46:17 PM
If anyone stars that nonsense Iíll batter them
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: KRS on April 19, 2019, 04:31:33 PM
I already did but it floundered like a damp squid.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: MoetVillan on April 19, 2019, 04:58:42 PM
Are people just doing fish puns for the halibut?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Colhint on April 19, 2019, 05:12:23 PM
Heard hes buying a house in Perry Barbel
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: four fornicholl on April 19, 2019, 05:16:55 PM
Ad hoc.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: mr underhill on April 19, 2019, 05:40:11 PM
If I join in then I would have been caught hook line and sinker. So I'm not going to.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: themossman on April 19, 2019, 05:56:48 PM
Funny I was just thinking this morning how long it had been since one of these annoying punathons.

Still, when in Rome. Can salmon let minnow how bad Tammyís injury is. And Codjiaís.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: dave shelley on April 19, 2019, 06:49:53 PM
I love these punathons, they always rays a laugh.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: LeeB on April 19, 2019, 07:54:08 PM
Juan Pablo Angelfish
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Rodders on April 19, 2019, 08:32:57 PM
Are people just doing fish puns for the halibut?

Certainly not MV, although I'd suggest that we've all halibut enough of them. They give me a haddock.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Comrade Blitz on April 19, 2019, 09:39:52 PM
So the UK English have saying I learn call bread and butter saying
This means it's the basics and ordinary it's simple .

Is he [implying that he's] not English?

Maybe we should just clam up.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Scratchins on April 20, 2019, 08:11:11 AM
For the love of Cod, stop the puns!
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: itmustbe_it is! on April 20, 2019, 07:23:59 PM
Moving on....

Having a mental block here, the "he's here, he's there, he's every f***ing where" song, who did we sing that about originally?
Maybe there's more than one but I seem to associate it with one player but I can't remember who
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: adrenachrome on April 20, 2019, 07:29:09 PM
Moving on....

Having a mental block here, the "he's here, he's there, he's every f***ing where" song, who did we sing that about originally?
Maybe there's more than one but I seem to associate it with one player but I can't remember who

Barry Hole.

After a well publicised incident, it became he's up, he's down he's in the Rose and Crown.
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Post by: dave shelley on April 20, 2019, 07:34:48 PM
Moving on....

Having a mental block here, the "he's here, he's there, he's every f***ing where" song, who did we sing that about originally?
Maybe there's more than one but I seem to associate it with one player but I can't remember who

Barry Hole.

After a well publicised incident, it became he's up, he's down he's in the Rose and Crown.

That's my earliest recollection of it too.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: itmustbe_it is! on April 20, 2019, 07:42:49 PM
Moving on....

Having a mental block here, the "he's here, he's there, he's every f***ing where" song, who did we sing that about originally?
Maybe there's more than one but I seem to associate it with one player but I can't remember who

Barry Hole.

After a well publicised incident, it became he's up, he's down he's in the Rose and Crown.

No he was before my time, I had a suspicion the one I remember wasn't the original.
Was 80s or maybe 90s.
Doing my head in now, can only hear it with Tyrone Mings

Also..edit...RIP Barry Hole, in googling him (I knew the name and the Brown, Arce, Hole thing, but not much more) I find he died recently in March.   #HEITS
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Villa in Denmark on April 20, 2019, 07:54:47 PM
Moving on....

Having a mental block here, the "he's here, he's there, he's every f***ing where" song, who did we sing that about originally?
Maybe there's more than one but I seem to associate it with one player but I can't remember who

Barry Hole.

After a well publicised incident, it became he's up, he's down he's in the Rose and Crown.

No he was before my time, I had a suspicion the one I remember wasn't the original.
Was 80s or maybe 90s.
Doing my head in now, can only hear it with Tyrone Mings

Also..edit...RIP Barry Hole, in googling him (I knew the name and the Brown, Arce, Hole thing, but not much more) I find he died recently in March.   #HEITS

If you're thinking early/mid 90s, Shaun Teale?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: itmustbe_it is! on April 20, 2019, 07:58:50 PM
Moving on....

Having a mental block here, the "he's here, he's there, he's every f***ing where" song, who did we sing that about originally?
Maybe there's more than one but I seem to associate it with one player but I can't remember who

Barry Hole.

After a well publicised incident, it became he's up, he's down he's in the Rose and Crown.

No he was before my time, I had a suspicion the one I remember wasn't the original.
Was 80s or maybe 90s.
Doing my head in now, can only hear it with Tyrone Mings

Also..edit...RIP Barry Hole, in googling him (I knew the name and the Brown, Arce, Hole thing, but not much more) I find he died recently in March.   #HEITS

If you're thinking early/mid 90s, Shaun Teale?

Yes !!!! That's it for me. I remember now, you had to kind of create an extra syllable in Shaun !
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Post by: dcdavecollett on April 21, 2019, 06:38:02 PM
Another interpretation of the same number for Barrie -after he had been fined by Docherty for drinking when he shouldn't have been- was: "He's shot, he's missed, he must be f*cking pissed, Barrie Hole! Barrie Hole!
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: purpletrousers on April 23, 2019, 12:38:42 PM
So beyond the genuine Footyskillz Ronglish of him being a Fish n Chip defender, whenís the last time we had a ball carrying centre back you had such confidence in to watch bring the ball out from the back?
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Post by: UK Redsox on April 23, 2019, 01:08:46 PM
So beyond the genuine Footyskillz Ronglish of him being a Fish n Chip defender, whenís the last time we had a ball carrying centre back you had such confidence in to watch bring the ball out from the back?


At times yesterday, Mings was like an even more scary version of Alan Hanson
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Post by: mr underhill on April 23, 2019, 03:16:26 PM
 he can play the ball out of defence, often with a killer long range pass. I think he really gets the club and it would be brilliant business if we can get him in the summer.
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Post by: Risso on April 23, 2019, 03:26:53 PM
Even though it's a level below the Premier League, to me he looks to be the best defender we've had since McGrath.  He looks to have everything in his game; aerial ability, pace, excellent distribution and raw unbridled strength.
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Post by: VILLA MOLE on April 23, 2019, 03:41:35 PM
I am surprise he is classed more as a left back?
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Post by: paul_e on April 23, 2019, 04:23:16 PM
Even though it's a level below the Premier League, to me he looks to be the best defender we've had since McGrath.  He looks to have everything in his game; aerial ability, pace, excellent distribution and raw unbridled strength.

I largely agree, he's a complete central defender and we haven't had many of those, just lots of players that are nearly there.  My only concern is how he'd handle the pace of someone like Sterling or Mane and if he has the temprament to deal with someone like Salah trying to get him sent off all game.
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Post by: Chipsticks on April 23, 2019, 04:32:01 PM
Even though it's a level below the Premier League, to me he looks to be the best defender we've had since McGrath.  He looks to have everything in his game; aerial ability, pace, excellent distribution and raw unbridled strength.

I think it's a bit of a stretch to say he's better than Laursen or Mellberg. I'd say he might potentially be as good as Vlaar one day soon, he just needs to prove himself in the Prem first.
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Post by: kippaxvilla2 on April 23, 2019, 04:35:15 PM
Even though it's a level below the Premier League, to me he looks to be the best defender we've had since McGrath.  He looks to have everything in his game; aerial ability, pace, excellent distribution and raw unbridled strength.

I think it's a bit of a stretch to say he's better than Laursen or Mellberg. I'd say he might potentially be as good as Vlaar one day soon, he just needs to prove himself in the Prem first.

Chocolate Vlaar Guard?  Plywood Ron.  I think he is better than him already.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Chipsticks on April 23, 2019, 04:41:18 PM
Even though it's a level below the Premier League, to me he looks to be the best defender we've had since McGrath.  He looks to have everything in his game; aerial ability, pace, excellent distribution and raw unbridled strength.

I think it's a bit of a stretch to say he's better than Laursen or Mellberg. I'd say he might potentially be as good as Vlaar one day soon, he just needs to prove himself in the Prem first.

Chocolate Vlaar Guard?  Plywood Ron.  I think he is better than him already.

Absolutely love Mings but I think we need to be careful getting to carried away. Can't wait to (hopefully!) see him in the Prem with us next season and how he gets on.
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Post by: XXVilla on April 23, 2019, 04:43:39 PM
Even though it's a level below the Premier League, to me he looks to be the best defender we've had since McGrath.  He looks to have everything in his game; aerial ability, pace, excellent distribution and raw unbridled strength.

I think it's a bit of a stretch to say he's better than Laursen or Mellberg. I'd say he might potentially be as good as Vlaar one day soon, he just needs to prove himself in the Prem first.

Chocolate Vlaar Guard?  Plywood Ron.  I think he is better than him already.

Vlaar was well average in retrospect. Mainly due to injuries I suppose.
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Post by: Risso on April 23, 2019, 10:37:25 PM
Even though it's a level below the Premier League, to me he looks to be the best defender we've had since McGrath.  He looks to have everything in his game; aerial ability, pace, excellent distribution and raw unbridled strength.

I think it's a bit of a stretch to say he's better than Laursen or Mellberg. I'd say he might potentially be as good as Vlaar one day soon, he just needs to prove himself in the Prem first.

He appears to be more composed on the ball than Mellberg, but as I alluded to in my post, he's playing in a lower division so your point about Laursen and Mellberg is a good one.  You could include Southgate and Ugo in that too I guess.

Vlaar though?!  Fucking hell, he was utter shite.  Mile Jedinak is a better central defender than him.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Sunny Villa on April 24, 2019, 01:54:57 AM
On Mr Ming's ,maybe Mr Terry has been an important person in his terrific form
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Toronto Villa on April 24, 2019, 05:00:22 AM
Before we compare them to our former and distinguished PL players letís see our players at that level. If we go up and keep the likes of Mings, SJM, Tammy and Jack then it will be a brilliant test of how far they have come. Right now they are playing above the level of the Championship but itís a big jump to play week in week out against PL talent.
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Post by: robbo1874 on April 24, 2019, 05:38:49 AM
This is true. One poster on here suggested if we go up, weíll likely do a Fulham and go straight back down. I hadnít considered that possibility, but I suppose itís more likely than not, unless we strengthen big time in the summer (and assuming we do actually go up).

I do think though, that thereís probably the nucleus of a side that could survive a season in the PL and would relish the challenge. And I really hope they get the opportunity to do that. Iíd guess the club are likely planning for either scenario of going up or staying down at the minute. But as a supporter, I find it hard to look past the playoffs right now.

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Post by: Neil Hawkes on April 24, 2019, 09:30:58 AM
This is true. One poster on here suggested if we go up, weíll likely do a Fulham and go straight back down. I hadnít considered that possibility, but I suppose itís more likely than not, unless we strengthen big time in the summer (and assuming we do actually go up).

I do think though, that thereís probably the nucleus of a side that could survive a season in the PL and would relish the challenge. And I really hope they get the opportunity to do that. Iíd guess the club are likely planning for either scenario of going up or staying down at the minute. But as a supporter, I find it hard to look past the playoffs right now.


Although I do have concerns about coming straight back down, the saving grace is that when teams actually try to play good football against us, we have the better results - as this current team seems to up their game accordingly and play much more attractive football.

I believe our biggest failing in most of the years following this wonderful club is not in raising our game to match/outplay the opposition, (apart from the last disastrous years in the league above us), but failing to brush off opposition that come and play crap or a holding/defensive pattern - something else that seems to have been recently addressed, as I cannot remember when I've witnessed so many games where we have gone through the motions professionally, with a winning result.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: The Edge on April 24, 2019, 10:24:29 AM
Mings has confirmed via his twitter account that he was singing along with the Holte end rendering of "allez allez" DURING the match v Millwall. What a guy. Villa legend in the making.
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Post by: not3bad on April 24, 2019, 12:50:50 PM
Even though it's a level below the Premier League, to me he looks to be the best defender we've had since McGrath.  He looks to have everything in his game; aerial ability, pace, excellent distribution and raw unbridled strength.

I think it's a bit of a stretch to say he's better than Laursen or Mellberg. I'd say he might potentially be as good as Vlaar one day soon, he just needs to prove himself in the Prem first.

He appears to be more composed on the ball than Mellberg, but as I alluded to in my post, he's playing in a lower division so your point about Laursen and Mellberg is a good one.  You could include Southgate and Ugo in that too I guess.

Vlaar though?!  Fucking hell, he was utter shite.  Mile Jedinak is a better central defender than him.

Going a bit far. I remember our performances always visibly improved when Vlaar was in the side during his time.
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Post by: Chipsticks on April 24, 2019, 01:47:12 PM
Even though it's a level below the Premier League, to me he looks to be the best defender we've had since McGrath.  He looks to have everything in his game; aerial ability, pace, excellent distribution and raw unbridled strength.

I think it's a bit of a stretch to say he's better than Laursen or Mellberg. I'd say he might potentially be as good as Vlaar one day soon, he just needs to prove himself in the Prem first.

He appears to be more composed on the ball than Mellberg, but as I alluded to in my post, he's playing in a lower division so your point about Laursen and Mellberg is a good one.  You could include Southgate and Ugo in that too I guess.

Vlaar though?!  Fucking hell, he was utter shite.  Mile Jedinak is a better central defender than him.

Going a bit far. I remember our performances always visibly improved when Vlaar was in the side during his time.

Yep. Vlaar was definitely a Prem-quality defender and represented his country well too. Towards the latter end of his time with us the wheels fell off for sure, but there was a time when he was the heart of our defence.

I don't think we can say Mings is better than him at all, but I think he could be! We'll see next season when he's up against Salah, Aguero etc
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Post by: Ads on April 24, 2019, 01:54:38 PM
Mings is much better. Vlaar was a 6 foot 3 lightweight. Mings is physically imposing, dominating and miles quicker.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Clark W Griswold on April 24, 2019, 02:01:31 PM
Yeah, Vlaar was wank. Not as wank as a few others we've had in the past 10 years or so but still wank. I will say with complete confidence that Mings is better even though he's playing a league down. The question is, can Mings be as good as Laursen, we'll have to hope that we go up and he stays with us to find out.
The three players that have bought about this great run are Mings, together with McGinn and Grealish.
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Post by: Diablo on April 24, 2019, 02:11:38 PM
As much as I like Mings he isn't an international (hasn't played against world class opposition on a regular basis) and hasn't played in the top division for any length of time so I think it's currently a pretty unfair comparison.
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Post by: The Edge on April 24, 2019, 05:03:15 PM
Yeah, Vlaar was wank. Not as wank as a few others we've had in the past 10 years or so but still wank. I will say with complete confidence that Mings is better even though he's playing a league down. The question is, can Mings be as good as Laursen, we'll have to hope that we go up and he stays with us to find out.
The three players that have bought about this great run are Mings, together with McGinn and Grealish.
I'd add Whelan to that list. A few months back i would of said you were nuts if you tried telling me Whelan was pivotal to our promotion challenge.
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Post by: olaftab on April 24, 2019, 05:22:32 PM
Mings is much better. Vlaar was a 6 foot 3 lightweight. Mings is physically imposing, dominating and miles quicker.
Except he failed to cut it in the Premier League whereas Vlaar captained Feyenoord, Villa and AZ in top Leagues for nearly 300 games. I like Mings but there is a reason why he is out on loan to us and not playing for Bmouth.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Ads on April 24, 2019, 05:52:26 PM
Worh noting that Mings has only played 31 games since 2015 and has played significantly more minutes for us than Bournemouth in just 10 weeks.
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Post by: Risso on April 24, 2019, 05:54:24 PM
Mings is much better. Vlaar was a 6 foot 3 lightweight. Mings is physically imposing, dominating and miles quicker.
Except he failed to cut it in the Premier League whereas Vlaar captained Feyenoord, Villa and AZ in top Leagues for nearly 300 games. I like Mings but there is a reason why he is out on loan to us and not playing for Bmouth.

He hasn't failed to cut it, he's been permanently injured.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 24, 2019, 05:59:01 PM
He hasn't failed to cut it, he's been permanently injured.

Are we still talking about Vlaar?








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Post by: Smirker on April 24, 2019, 06:49:06 PM
Can we please sign Mings.
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Post by: olaftab on April 24, 2019, 06:51:12 PM
Mings is much better. Vlaar was a 6 foot 3 lightweight. Mings is physically imposing, dominating and miles quicker.
Except he failed to cut it in the Premier League whereas Vlaar captained Feyenoord, Villa and AZ in top Leagues for nearly 300 games. I like Mings but there is a reason why he is out on loan to us and not playing for Bmouth.

He hasn't failed to cut it, he's been permanently injured.
Yes but....when good players return they are not loaned out. Itís fair to say that Bmouth did not feel having him back from injury will strengthen their team.
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Post by: Risso on April 24, 2019, 07:12:57 PM

Yes but....when good players return they are not loaned out. Itís fair to say that Bmouth did not feel having him back from injury will strengthen their team.

So, you're saying he's not a good player?  Well, I have to disagree, because he's been absolutely immense for us.  I would think his being loaned out was more to do with them wanting him to get back fit and play week in, week out, with minimum risk to themselves.
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Post by: KRS on April 24, 2019, 07:18:01 PM
If Mings had been here at the start of the season (or at least when DS arrived) then we'd be talking about him being player of the season along with Jack and SJM, and we'd be closer to the automatic places. He has been immense since he arrived, and should be the first player we sign in the summer if we have the option regardless of what division we are in next season.
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Post by: olaftab on April 24, 2019, 07:31:57 PM

Yes but....when good players return they are not loaned out. Itís fair to say that Bmouth did not feel having him back from injury will strengthen their team.

So, you're saying he's not a good player?  Well, I have to disagree, because he's been absolutely immense for us.  I would think his being loaned out was more to do with them wanting him to get back fit and play week in, week out, with minimum risk to themselves.
I am not saying he is not a good player I am guessing at the Bmouth point of view. They obviously donít regard him that high. He is too good for most of the forwards in the second tier however he is not facing Aguero, Sterling, Sane, Salah, Kane, Rashford, Lukaku, Vardy etc etc week in week out. When  your best players come back from injury you donít send them to a lower tier club for the rest of the season to get fit. My point was more about comparison with Vlaar and a poster saying he is much better than Vlaar. Itís not apples and apples....
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Post by: Risso on April 24, 2019, 07:43:26 PM
When  your best players come back from injury you donít send them to a lower tier club for the rest of the season to get fit. My point was more about comparison with Vlaar and a poster saying he is much better than Vlaar. Itís not apples and apples....

As Ads points out, he's played about a dozen games in 4 years for Bournemouth.  We're not talking about being out for a few months with a thigh injury, he's effectively missed almost the entire last three and a bit years.  They've been doing well in that time, so the chance to loan him to a big club like us where he'd get a regular run out was too good to pass up for them.  They can't lose.  We're paying his wages while he gets up to speed, and at the end of this season he'll either go back to them a reinvigorated player, or they'll sell him to either us or somebody else for a big fee.

As for Vlaar,  remind yourself about Sherwood's first game in charge against Stoke.  'Concrete' was absolutely piss poor that day, as he was fairly frequently.
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Post by: Ads on April 24, 2019, 08:21:49 PM
Mings has pace. It's what is required to play top flight football.

If we can get promoted, I would not hesitate in signing him and I'll be brave and say he'd end up being spoken about as fondly as King Olaf and Laursen et al in years to come.
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Post by: olaftab on April 24, 2019, 08:53:33 PM
Again. Tyrone is far too good for most if not all championship forwards but has not proved himself at top level for whatever reason so comparing him with a proven international centre half is bunk at the moment.
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Post by: Risso on April 24, 2019, 09:00:56 PM
Again. Tyrone is far too good for most if not all championship forwards but has not proved himself at top level for whatever reason so comparing him with a proven international centre half is bunk at the moment.

By that yardstick, would you rather have Jack Grealish, with 30 Premier League appearances who is playing against the same Championship defenders and midfielders that Mings is, or Ashley Westwood, who has 200+ Premier League appearances and is "proving himself" in the Premier League?

Vlaar might have played against top Premier League strikers, but by saying "proved himself at the top level" what I think you really mean is "had no pace and was run ragged by anybody half decent."
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Post by: LeeB on April 24, 2019, 09:11:07 PM
Saido Mane destroyed him in about 20 minutes.
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Post by: Dazvillain on April 24, 2019, 09:18:22 PM
I wish the title of this thread would be changed , every time I glance at it I think he has signed permanently
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Post by: olaftab on April 24, 2019, 09:37:17 PM
Again. Tyrone is far too good for most if not all championship forwards but has not proved himself at top level for whatever reason so comparing him with a proven international centre half is bunk at the moment.

By that yardstick, would you rather have Jack Grealish, with 30 Premier League appearances who is playing against the same Championship defenders and midfielders that Mings is, or Ashley Westwood, who has 200+ Premier League appearances and is "proving himself" in the Premier League?

Vlaar might have played against top Premier League strikers, but by saying "proved himself at the top level" what I think you really mean is "had no pace and was run ragged by anybody half decent."
A puzzling reply so I won't bother answering.
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Post by: Risso on April 24, 2019, 11:11:16 PM
You seem to think Vlaar is better because he proved himself in the Premier League and Mings hasn't.  Sometimes you can just tell when a player is better.  Jack Grealish is a better player than Ashley Westwood in my opinion, despite the latter having miles more Premier League experience.  It's not rocket science.
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Post by: olaftab on April 25, 2019, 08:19:52 AM
No itís not rocket science. Vlaar didnít just prove himself in the PL in fact he didnít need to do so. He was an international class defender playing for a country that is a world power in football. As far as I know Ash Westwood has done no such thing. However I agree that sometimes you can tell talent apart from also rans. Jack is exceptional and I saw that when I watched him come on in a Next Gen champions league game many many years ago. I hope Mings stays with us and becomes the best  centre back since McGrath but letís see....
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Post by: Rigadon on April 25, 2019, 08:37:45 AM
I must say, my memory of Vlaar is that he was an average central defender in a piss poor spell for the club.  Mings looks a proper player and I think will be a big player in the premier league if he can stay fit. 
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Post by: mr underhill on April 25, 2019, 01:32:04 PM
concrete Ron turned out to be made of blancmange.
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Post by: supertom on April 25, 2019, 04:09:59 PM
I must say, my memory of Vlaar is that he was an average central defender in a piss poor spell for the club.  Mings looks a proper player and I think will be a big player in the premier league if he can stay fit. 
Vlaar, much like Baros looked a lot better for his national side than he ever did for us. Vlaar was largely mediocre for us. He wasn't Lescott/Richards bad, and I suppose, to a point, he at least seemed to care, but he was one of almost relentless line of dreadful defensive signings for years. Our best central defensive signings since O Neill left (and his record was a mixed bag putting it mildly) have been Chester and Mings. Hause has been decent of late and Tuanzebe too. The unfortunate thing is, we don't own three of those, and I would agree the dury is out on whether they'd make the step up. I'd have no qualms about signing Mings and Tuanzebe though, for the Premiership.
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Post by: AsTallAsLions on April 26, 2019, 08:40:06 AM
Saido Mane destroyed him in about 20 minutes.

Let's be fair now. Manť has the ability to destroy most centre-halves the world over, on his day.
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Post by: mike on April 26, 2019, 07:56:44 PM
I must say, my memory of Vlaar is that he was an average central defender in a piss poor spell for the club.   

And that's being generous.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: somec on April 26, 2019, 09:31:55 PM
concrete Ron turned out to be made of blancmange.

Less concrete more PolystyrRon
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Post by: West Derby Villan on April 26, 2019, 11:51:59 PM
concrete Ron turned out to be made of blancmange.

And frequently injured
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Post by: adrenachrome on April 28, 2019, 04:42:48 PM
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Post by: Toronto Villa on April 28, 2019, 05:12:50 PM
Iím concerned. ďWe go againĒ Has he contracted Lambertitus?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: SheffieldVillain on April 28, 2019, 05:15:40 PM
It's a sign of how good he is that this thread now doesn't have multiple 'what a great game' posts even after a colossal performance like today's. We've simply become accustomed to it being the case. Superb signing.
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Post by: SoccerHQ on April 28, 2019, 05:22:19 PM
Was amazing in injury time. Was the only player actually attempting to clear their countless crosses into the box, proper one man defence.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Villa Lew on April 28, 2019, 05:36:29 PM
In the play offs he will be just as valuable to us as SJM and Jack will be. Brilliant yet again today.
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Post by: PaulWinch again on April 28, 2019, 05:38:15 PM
Love him, heís great.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Toronto Villa on April 28, 2019, 06:28:06 PM
His interview on Sky after he game was great too. He loved the battle. We just have to find a way to keep him.
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Post by: Mister E on April 28, 2019, 06:30:34 PM
... We just have to find a way to keep him.
Get promoted, I guess!
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: themossman on April 28, 2019, 06:32:03 PM
Was amazing in injury time. Was the only player actually attempting to clear their countless crosses into the box, proper one man defence.

Him (and Axel) are better at carrying the ball than most championship midfielders.

And yes he was a rock today. One moment right at the end he slid and got a scuffed contact on to the ball, at full stretch, and it traveled halfway up the pitch.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: The Charmer on April 28, 2019, 08:07:18 PM
He looks like he really does love playing for the Villa and knows just how much we appreciate the difference he has made since he arrived.

Is anyone else worried that this won't have gone un-noticed by Eddie Howe and he won't allow him to leave?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Risso on April 28, 2019, 08:10:30 PM
We just need to go up, then Eddie Howe can go and fuck himself.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: SheffieldVillain on April 28, 2019, 08:11:39 PM
He looks like he really does love playing for the Villa and knows just how much we appreciate the difference he has made since he arrived.

Is anyone else worried that this won't have gone un-noticed by Eddie Howe and he won't allow him to leave?

I'm sure it won't go unnoticed, but they've got Nathan Ake who they paid £20m for at the start of last season and Chris Mepham who they've just signed on a long-term contract. He can't play them all. I can't see Mings going back to sit on the bench or in the stands, and we all know that in modern football players ultimately get what they want.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: garyshawsknee on April 28, 2019, 08:20:54 PM
After watching today's game you can sense how much the club means to him. It would be a massive come down if he would have to return to Bournemouth, even if they were a division above us. He'd be such an important signing, not just for us but for him too.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Three Spires Villa on April 28, 2019, 08:32:28 PM
He is ace
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: saunders_heroes on April 28, 2019, 08:42:32 PM
Fuckin awesome defender.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Smirker on April 28, 2019, 08:52:14 PM
If we go up we must sign him permanently.

Love him.

Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Somniloquism on April 28, 2019, 09:14:14 PM
If we go up we must sign him permanently.

Love him.

If we don't we still need to keep hold of him. If we have him for a season we will go up automatically.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: ChicagoLion on April 28, 2019, 10:04:37 PM
Becoming a real hero, what a player and seeing him at the end, he really loves it here.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: mike on April 28, 2019, 10:21:42 PM
After watching today's game you can sense how much the club means to him. It would be a massive come down if he would have to return to Bournemouth, even if they were a division above us. He'd be such an important signing, not just for us but for him too.

I'm a cynical old get and I was so disillusioned with football I stopped watching it until my boy started playing. There's tens of thousands of pounds a week worth of reasons why that twat Bryan sold his soul and dignity to go straight from a medical at Villa to sign at Fulham. But even I can see a possibility that Tyrone can consider that playing for Villa in the Championship trumps playing for Bournemouth in the Premier League.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: LeeB on April 28, 2019, 10:25:03 PM
We just need to go up, then Eddie Howe can go and fuck himself.

Eddie, if your reading this, don't wait for us to go up.

Do it anyway.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: cheltenhamlion on April 29, 2019, 05:33:00 PM
I did enjoy watching Mings with a player under each arm on the scuffle yesterday.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: FrankyH on April 29, 2019, 06:48:18 PM

(https://i.ibb.co/R33NFkx/Mings.jpg) (https://ibb.co/R33NFkx)
I did enjoy watching Mings with a player under each arm on the scuffle yesterday.

Yes , that was brilliant.I love this picture as well. Not the slightest bit intimidated ...
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Risso on April 29, 2019, 07:48:33 PM
Mings is one of those rare defenders who I actually enjoy watching play.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: purpletrousers on April 30, 2019, 12:10:57 AM
Mings is one of those rare defenders who I actually enjoy watching play.
Indeed. And Iím enjoying him enjoying playing, heís a charismatic guy, a great personality to have about. Has he done an unclassic commentary with the McGinster? Theyíll have a field day with the last match.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: mr underhill on April 30, 2019, 03:27:37 PM
When is the earliest date the Emperor can sign?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: cheltenhamlion on April 30, 2019, 07:53:49 PM
An unclassic commentary with him would be crap. He is too level headed and well spoken!
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: andyh on April 30, 2019, 08:03:47 PM
Even if we do go up I can see those Bournemouth fuckers deciding heís not for sale.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: IFWaters on April 30, 2019, 08:21:52 PM
Transfermarkt says he has 17 premier league appearances over 4 seasons at Bournemouth. Current value £3.5m but that was before playing for us. Highest value has been £5.5m. Small change to the likes of Bournemouth.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: darren woolley on May 01, 2019, 10:42:20 AM
Love Tyrone Mings we really need him to sign for us permanently let's start a petition let's keep Tyrone Mings.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: levico on May 03, 2019, 12:36:22 PM
Completely agree with everything said about TM. Superb defender, a joy to watch. Most assured Iíve seen in Villa shirt since Lauren/McGrath.

Makes me think though, whatís the catch? Why is he here and not on Bournemouthís bench at the very least?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Pat Mustard on May 03, 2019, 12:58:30 PM
Completely agree with everything said about TM. Superb defender, a joy to watch. Most assured Iíve seen in Villa shirt since Lauren/McGrath.

Makes me think though, whatís the catch? Why is he here and not on Bournemouthís bench at the very least?

I'm guessing it's down to his previous injuries meaning he has not had much game time there, and sending him out on loan is a way for them to assess his potential.  This being the case, can I just say to Bournemouth that he is absolutely useless and by far the best thing they could do is cut their losses and let him leave ASAP.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Lastfootstamper on May 03, 2019, 01:05:21 PM
He needed games, simple as that I reckon. Injuries have limited his opportunities to play in his entire time with them, their jury would be out as to whether he'd have been worth risking their PL status by playing him. He's featured in 17 PL games for Bournemouth over 4 seasons, he's played 15 league games for us. We helped him, he's helped us. There's too many things can happen between now and August to influence where he'll be next season. It'd be nice to sign him, and fingers crossed that if we don't, it's only because we've got someone even better.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: UK Redsox on May 03, 2019, 01:11:25 PM
If ever there was a loan that's worked out for all concerned, this is it.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Villa75 on May 03, 2019, 01:39:08 PM
I've read about a dozen pages so, to avoid my lazy ass having to read the other 40 odd and still not finding the answer, does anyone know the loan details?

First refusal? Get in the queue? Agreed fee?

I would imagine we've helped Bournemouth increase his fee significantly, as well as helping ourselves to the play offs, but I would love to have him stay with us.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Drummond on May 03, 2019, 02:13:07 PM
I'm pretty sure it was the opportunity to match any bid made.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: AsTallAsLions on May 03, 2019, 02:16:35 PM
I'm pretty sure it was the opportunity to match any bid made.

I remember reading that a while ago and thinking what a strange clause it is. How is it any different from a regular transfer situation? Surely the club always has the opportunity to match any bid made by another. It only benefits Bournemouth in the end if a club starts a bidding war for a player, it's no real added benefit to us? Is it that they can't refuse it from us if they accept a bid from elsewhere? Even then I don't really understand why you'd work that into a loan agreement. Odd one.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Newby on May 03, 2019, 07:14:28 PM
Someone makes an offer, we have to match it, Tyrone chooses his destination.  No doubts heís added several million to his tag. Fantastic defender.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: andyh on May 03, 2019, 07:34:05 PM
Expect BíMouth to declare heís not for sale.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Matt Collins on May 04, 2019, 06:21:06 AM
If we go up I really think he'll want to come and that would count for a lot

A lot may depend on whether Nathan ake is still at Bournemouth too. They bought mepham for 12m or so. Is he getting in ahead of that pair?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: London Villan on May 04, 2019, 08:09:14 AM
If we go up heíll want to stay and we have the money.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Larry Duff on May 05, 2019, 04:28:22 PM
So did anyone else see him in his car outside The Aston Tavern about 40 minutes before Kick Off.
As we walked up a Car was being mobbed by lots of Villa Fans.  We got up to it and it was Tyrone and there was a crowd singing his name and having selfies with him.
He was lapping it up and there was a a big queue building up behind him.

I was wondering where He was going as He was heading away from the ground and also wondered if He was on the Lap of Honour done by our players after the game ?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: The_ads on May 05, 2019, 04:32:11 PM
So did anyone else see him in his car outside The Aston Tavern about 40 minutes before Kick Off.
As we walked up a Car was being mobbed by lots of Villa Fans.  We got up to it and it was Tyrone and there was a crowd singing his name and having selfies with him.
He was lapping it up and there was a a big queue building up behind him.

I was wondering where He was going as He was heading away from the ground and also wondered if He was on the Lap of Honour done by our players after the game ?


He was in Grealishs box with Abraham so expect so
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: West Derby Villan on May 05, 2019, 05:02:49 PM
So did anyone else see him in his car outside The Aston Tavern about 40 minutes before Kick Off.
As we walked up a Car was being mobbed by lots of Villa Fans.  We got up to it and it was Tyrone and there was a crowd singing his name and having selfies with him.
He was lapping it up and there was a a big queue building up behind him.

I was wondering where He was going as He was heading away from the ground and also wondered if He was on the Lap of Honour done by our players after the game ?


He was in Grealishs box with Abraham so expect so

Yeah he was on the "lap of appreciation !"
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: SoccerHQ on May 05, 2019, 05:56:48 PM
If we go up I really think he'll want to come and that would count for a lot

A lot may depend on whether Nathan ake is still at Bournemouth too. They bought mepham for 12m or so. Is he getting in ahead of that pair?

Eddie Howe still likes playing the old guard, Steve Cook started for them yesterday, he's been their donkeys years.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: PeterWithe on May 06, 2019, 07:04:35 AM
So did anyone else see him in his car outside The Aston Tavern about 40 minutes before Kick Off.
As we walked up a Car was being mobbed by lots of Villa Fans.  We got up to it and it was Tyrone and there was a crowd singing his name and having selfies with him.
He was lapping it up and there was a a big queue building up behind him.

I was wondering where He was going as He was heading away from the ground and also wondered if He was on the Lap of Honour done by our players after the game ?


I also saw that and thought the same, he was there ages,  I made it in with 5 mins to spare so God knows how he did. Fair 0lay to him, he looked very happy to do the photos etc, even with 500 people pawing at his £100k motor.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Ads on May 06, 2019, 09:04:52 AM
He was in the box in the Witton closest to the Holte.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Rodders on May 12, 2019, 11:23:47 AM
Just when you think you can't love Tyrone any more than you already do:

http://twitter.com/ReganFrancis/status/1127499307278585859
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: olaftab on May 12, 2019, 11:52:28 AM
His display was a bit casual yesterday but I am sure he will be on the button on Tuesday.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: dave shelley on May 12, 2019, 12:44:47 PM
Just when you think you can't love Tyrone any more than you already do:

http://twitter.com/ReganFrancis/status/1127499307278585859

I'm sure that video clip was taken from the seat that I sat in for the 5-5 against Forest.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Bad English on May 12, 2019, 12:51:28 PM
Just when you think you can't love Tyrone any more than you already do:

http://twitter.com/ReganFrancis/status/1127499307278585859
"Officer do something! We'm been smiled at; it ay fair."
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Rodders on May 12, 2019, 01:26:32 PM
I'd agree that he wasn't at his best on the pitch yesterday, but I just love his attitude. When being given pelters a thumbs up and a big grin is probably the most aggravating a response he could have given. Well played, Tyrone.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: purpletrousers on May 12, 2019, 02:29:32 PM
Just when you think you can't love Tyrone any more than you already do:

http://twitter.com/ReganFrancis/status/1127499307278585859
"Officer do something! We'm been smiled at; it ay fair."
I was looking down at this from just above, at first momentarily forgetting they were baggies fans I thought he was just jokingly offering water and stewards holding back fans, then realised he was effectively winding up away fans. Rights and wrongs of engaging with opposition fans, as someone was saying before kick off, his lovely Leeds post match interview sums him up,

that was quite a battle eh?
Response: massive smile, yeah I loved it.

Genuinely nice and fun guy.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Risso on May 12, 2019, 02:31:58 PM
He wasn't at his best yesterday, but I do love to see him striding out of defence with the ball.  Him and Axel could be a brilliant pairing next year if we go up.

Also, when he heads the ball, it bloody well stays headed.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Toronto Villa on May 12, 2019, 03:03:09 PM
He provides a bit of an intimidation factor too which opponents are wary of and his teammates appreciate and us fans love. Heís not scared of anyone.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: pauliewalnuts on May 12, 2019, 03:11:36 PM
He wasn't at his best yesterday, but I do love to see him striding out of defence with the ball.  Him and Axel could be a brilliant pairing next year if we go up.

Also, when he heads the ball, it bloody well stays headed.

Agree, wasn't at his best, but I too love him, strides out of defence with the ball, like you said, and almost always finds one of our players with it.

He's a leader, too.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: KRS on May 12, 2019, 08:34:58 PM
Got a lot of man love for this guy. Along with Tammy, he seems to get the club and has bought into it more than you would expect from a loan signing. Would love it if we could sign him permanent in the summer regardless of the division we're in.

Has there been any reasonable suggested reasoning why Jack, SJM and Mings seemed to be off the pace yesterday as they all didn't seem to be at their usual best?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Lastfootstamper on May 12, 2019, 08:37:19 PM
*checks Norwich teamsheet*
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: KRS on May 12, 2019, 08:40:47 PM
Sorry I meant apart from them being rested last week? They would have been training hard all week so surprises me that just missing the Norwich game could have such an impact on all of their performance levels.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Lastfootstamper on May 12, 2019, 08:49:48 PM
I know it's a bit simplistic, as Elmo and El Ghazi were rested too. But for weeks we'd been functioning like well-oiled clockwork, we had a week after Leeds, we had virtually a week after til yesterday, and after Tuesday there's best part of a fortnight to the final. Hardly the most congested of fixture lists. Norwich weren't thugs, personally I'd have liked to see us maintain our unbeaten run and impetus.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Sexual Ealing on May 12, 2019, 09:54:37 PM
There's also the issue of the way Albion set up - it's specifically designed to disrupt their opponents' fluidity. And it often works, which is why so many managers employ it, the better ones adding the occasional spark of quality up front in order to nick something and then hope to kill the game. Allardyce is a rich man because of it.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: chrisw1 on May 12, 2019, 09:59:15 PM
I'm a bit worried he was struggling with his hamstring at for the last 10 mins or so.  Hope he's ok for Tuesday.  Any news?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Villafirst on May 12, 2019, 10:08:12 PM
I'm a bit worried he was struggling with his hamstring at for the last 10 mins or so.  Hope he's ok for Tuesday.  Any news?

Dean said it was a tight hamstring but he should be ok for Tuesday.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: pauliewalnuts on May 13, 2019, 01:19:27 PM
I've just seen someone on twitter say it's racist to call Mings and Tuanzebe 'beasts' because it has racial overtones towards black players.

*head in hands*
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: AV82EC on May 13, 2019, 01:23:33 PM
I've just seen someone on twitter say it's racist to call Mings and Tuanzebe 'beasts' because it has racial overtones towards black players.

*head in hands*

And getting pretty short shrift judging by the replies.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Axl Rose on May 13, 2019, 01:23:53 PM
I've just seen someone on twitter say it's racist to call Mings and Tuanzebe 'beasts' because it has racial overtones towards black players.

*head in hands*

I was reading the same thread on Twitter, Paulie, and just didn't know what to say.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: danno on May 13, 2019, 01:26:38 PM
A few probably read this and just accepted it as gospel.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/jan/21/paul-pogba-pace-power-rethink-bame-coverage
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: chrisw1 on May 13, 2019, 01:37:22 PM
A few probably read this and just accepted it as gospel.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/jan/21/paul-pogba-pace-power-rethink-bame-coverage
This stuff is getting so ridiculous it's beyond belief.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: JUAN PABLO on May 13, 2019, 04:58:14 PM
worrying the amount of goals Bournemouth are letting in

3-5
1-5
0-4
0-4
1-4
0-5
0-4


they will keep Mings . Howe would be an idiot to let the beast go.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Clampy on May 13, 2019, 07:16:38 PM
I've just seen someone on twitter say it's racist to call Mings and Tuanzebe 'beasts' because it has racial overtones towards black players.

*head in hands*

Utterly ridiculous wasn't it? He's moaning about some of the replies he has been getting now.

There's nothing wrong with Beasts anyway. The Craggy Island beast was great. He had four arses.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Ian J on May 13, 2019, 08:51:56 PM
I've just seen someone on twitter say it's racist to call Mings and Tuanzebe 'beasts' because it has racial overtones towards black players.

*head in hands*

Utterly ridiculous wasn't it? He's moaning about some of the replies he has been getting now.

There's nothing wrong with Beasts anyway. The Craggy Island beast was great. He had four arses.
We call our wee little lad the Beast from the East. I best not broadcast that via a tweet I suppose.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: cheltenhamlion on May 14, 2019, 06:28:54 AM
The Beast from Trentham East is one of the investigators that works for me. He is white, fat, bald and 45 years old.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: themossman on May 14, 2019, 07:44:50 AM
I know it's a bit simplistic, as Elmo and El Ghazi were rested too. But for weeks we'd been functioning like well-oiled clockwork, we had a week after Leeds, we had virtually a week after til yesterday, and after Tuesday there's best part of a fortnight to the final. Hardly the most congested of fixture lists. Norwich weren't thugs, personally I'd have liked to see us maintain our unbeaten run and impetus.

Things is though Jack was unplayable after his injury and SJM didnít miss a beat when he got his ban.

I put it down to nerves and West Brom tactics.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Dazvillain on May 14, 2019, 11:45:37 AM
Unfortunately this looks to be the same as Tuanzebe , another one whoís played well with us and certainly better than his parent clubs players in that position and their own clubs may be very foolish to let them go
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Diablo on May 14, 2019, 02:57:07 PM
I've just seen someone on twitter say it's racist to call Mings and Tuanzebe 'beasts' because it has racial overtones towards black players.

*head in hands*
It quite obviously does have racial overtones if you look at history. Imperialist nations who went into African countries and stole their resources under the guise of bringing ďcivilizationĒ and religion to the ďsavagesĒ and obviously the slave trade both used crazy bullshit pseudoscientific scientific racism/race biology to support or justify racism/racial inferiority and racial superiority. Historically language was used to dehumanise people to say they are a sub species and therefore itís ok to do this or that (despite their physical attributes). The term ďbeastĒ definitely supports that narrative and is a continuation of that language (that has been going on for 400 plus years) thatís why itís arguably not appropriate language towards a black person in 2019.  If the term beast is said to a white person (eg Eddie Hall from Stoke) it doesnít have that history/context attached.

All about history and context really.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Risso on May 14, 2019, 03:11:12 PM
It just means a physically imposing and powerful football player.  Race doesn't come into it. 
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Diablo on May 14, 2019, 03:22:52 PM
It just means a physically imposing and powerful football player.  Race doesn't come into it. 
Not disputing that it may mean just that to you Risso. Do you not take on board the connotation and history though?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: paul_e on May 14, 2019, 04:12:51 PM
I've just seen someone on twitter say it's racist to call Mings and Tuanzebe 'beasts' because it has racial overtones towards black players.

*head in hands*
It quite obviously does have racial overtones if you look at history. Imperialist nations who went into African countries and stole their resources under the guise of bringing ďcivilizationĒ and religion to the ďsavagesĒ and obviously the slave trade both used crazy bullshit pseudoscientific scientific racism/race biology to support or justify racism/racial inferiority and racial superiority. Historically language was used to dehumanise people to say they are a sub species and therefore itís ok to do this or that (despite their physical attributes). The term ďbeastĒ definitely supports that narrative and is a continuation of that language (that has been going on for 400 plus years) thatís why itís arguably not appropriate language towards a black person in 2019.  If the term beast is said to a white person (eg Eddie Hall from Stoke) it doesnít have that history/context attached.

All about history and context really.


If people are looking for it then yes, they may see that but a few minutes googling for Marshawn Lynch will make it clear that it's not universally seen as racist. I've called plenty of people beasts through rugby and in every single case it's been because of what they do and nothing to do with who they are. For example Chabel, Gorgodze and Mtawarira will always be beasts as far as I'm concerned, only 1 of them is black but all 3 made a career of running through defenders like they were made of paper.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: mr underhill on May 14, 2019, 04:36:18 PM
I agree, we seem to be living in a new puritanical, sententious age and quite frankly it's getting on my tits.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: KRS on May 14, 2019, 04:37:26 PM
But are your tits beastly?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: mr underhill on May 14, 2019, 04:39:07 PM
no but my wife's are.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: maidstonevillain on May 14, 2019, 04:51:06 PM
Had better refrain from calling players thugs then. Originates from Indian gangs.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Newby on May 14, 2019, 07:18:56 PM
He's big, he's black, he's beautiful. I love Tyrone Mings.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: West Derby Villan on May 14, 2019, 07:22:07 PM
He's big, he's black, he's beautiful. I love Tyrone Mings.

Is it still ok to use the word "big"
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: SheffieldVillain on May 14, 2019, 11:54:14 PM
A couple of random observations about Mings tonight.

The first after the Albion thug's stamp on McGinn. When he got up, Mcginn was steaming and would likely have gone for Brunt and got a card of some sort. Mings physically dragged him away, held him back and stopped him getting into trouble.

After the penalties, he was the first player shaking hands and consoling the Albion players.

How good a player he is is obvious but he is a proper good bloke to have at our club as well. Him and McGinn this season have been two of my favourite Villa signings for a long, long time.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Smirker on May 14, 2019, 11:58:06 PM
He is a good guy yes. I remember him tweeting an Ipswich fan who wished him luck before the game and had mentioned he couldn't afford to be there that night. Mings left him two tickets for the match at the stadium. Always liked him since then.

I'd like us to sign him permanently if we go up. Not sure if it will be possible but he will be a great signing.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: danno on May 14, 2019, 11:58:57 PM

 after the Albion thug's stamp on McGinn. When he got up, Mcginn was steaming and would likely have gone for Brunt and got a card of some sort. Mings physically dragged him away, held him back and stopped him getting into trouble.


Yep it reminded me of Scooby holding back Scrappy doo. Great to see from Mings because McGinn had lost it, he was raging.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: purpletrousers on May 15, 2019, 12:04:43 AM
A couple of random observations about Mings tonight.

The first after the Albion thug's stamp on McGinn. When he got up, Mcginn was steaming and would likely have gone for Brunt and got a card of some sort. Mings physically dragged him away, held him back and stopped him getting into trouble.

After the penalties, he was the first player shaking hands and consoling the Albion players.

How good a player he is is obvious but he is a proper good bloke to have at our club as well. Him and McGinn this season have been two of my favourite Villa signings for a long, long time.
Indeed and he didnít pick up that 2nd yellow crucially. We have to have him next year. 
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Dougs Socks on May 15, 2019, 12:13:00 AM

Son of God 8)
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: dicedlam on May 15, 2019, 07:51:14 AM
There is not a better English left-footed central defender in the country. He should be called up by Southgate.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: themossman on May 15, 2019, 08:36:46 AM
A couple of random observations about Mings tonight.

The first after the Albion thug's stamp on McGinn. When he got up, Mcginn was steaming and would likely have gone for Brunt and got a card of some sort. Mings physically dragged him away, held him back and stopped him getting into trouble.

After the penalties, he was the first player shaking hands and consoling the Albion players.

How good a player he is is obvious but he is a proper good bloke to have at our club as well. Him and McGinn this season have been two of my favourite Villa signings for a long, long time.

Racist
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: mr underhill on May 15, 2019, 09:15:22 AM

#thoughtpolicetwork
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Sexual Ealing on May 15, 2019, 09:53:35 AM
There is not a better English left-footed central defender in the country. He should be called up by Southgate.

Fuck that.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: sonyhill on May 15, 2019, 10:01:47 AM
A couple of random observations about Mings tonight.

The first after the Albion thug's stamp on McGinn. When he got up, Mcginn was steaming and would likely have gone for Brunt and got a card of some sort. Mings physically dragged him away, held him back and stopped him getting into trouble.

After the penalties, he was the first player shaking hands and consoling the Albion players.

How good a player he is is obvious but he is a proper good bloke to have at our club as well. Him and McGinn this season have been two of my favourite Villa signings for a long, long time.

Agreed.  McGinn looked like he was going to go for Brunt and Mings was right in his ear straight away.  Class act. 
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: themossman on May 15, 2019, 10:26:48 AM
Genuinely seems to love the fans, and itís obviously mutual.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on May 15, 2019, 11:27:00 AM
Can he get a 2nd yellow for jumping into the fans at the end.....smiley thing I think!
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Sexual Ealing on May 15, 2019, 12:55:27 PM
I love him. I was trying, unsuccessfully, last night to get Mrs SE to agree that he was the embodiment of all that is beautiful about humanity. She was trying to watch the Michael Jackson paedo documentary on Netflix, the sick witch.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: tim on May 16, 2019, 07:55:58 AM
Any argument between players and he's first in there to calm things down. Seems to have a lot of respect and the rest listen to him when he speaks - which as a relative newcomer, speaks volumes to me.

Besides his personality, he appears to be totally committed and loves being at Villa. In my eyes, could easily become a future hero in same mould as Laursen etc.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Axl Rose on May 16, 2019, 08:00:25 AM
I love him. I was trying, unsuccessfully, last night to get Mrs SE to agree that he was the embodiment of all that is beautiful about humanity. She was trying to watch the Michael Jackson paedo documentary on Netflix, the sick witch.

Ha! Great post, pal.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: cdbullyweefan on May 16, 2019, 09:37:42 AM
Can he get a 2nd yellow for jumping into the fans at the end.....smiley thing I think!

The stroppy stewards didn't look very happy, did they? One bloke physically pushed him. Nice that Mings The Merciless just turned and smiled at him.

Baggies stewards have always been twats.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Dazvillain on May 16, 2019, 09:43:00 AM
Eddie Howe as told the Bournemouth press that heís looking forward to having chats with him at the end of the season. A lot of fans just think they have a personality clash and he wonít want to go back there. Some say he was lazy in training and would turn up late which I struggle to believe and others say he has some sort of business down there that he seemed more interested in.
A lot of ways this could pan out, but heís certainly regathered his zest for playing here
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: phantom limb on May 16, 2019, 09:46:07 AM
If we go up Iím sure we can do a deal which suits all parties. Itís the going up bit we need to sort out first.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Risso on May 16, 2019, 10:01:44 AM
If we win the final, there's no way he'll be anywhere else other than Villa Park next season.  If we could bag Axel as well, that's our central defence sorted for years.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Drummond on May 16, 2019, 11:21:22 AM
If we win the final, there's no way he'll be anywhere else other than Villa Park next season.  If we could bag Axel as well, that's our central defence sorted for years.

Yep. Agreed. I just wish Solksjaer would shut the fuck up about Axel.

Mings would choose us over pretty much anywhere I think.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Bren'd on May 16, 2019, 12:01:53 PM
He does like to take his shirt off and reveal his lean muscular body doesn't he?  Mind you, if I was 30 years younger and had a physique like his and equally as good at football I'd probably take everything off.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: AV82EC on May 16, 2019, 12:19:43 PM
He does like to take his shirt off and reveal his lean muscular body doesn't he?  Mind you, if I was 30 years younger and had a physique like his and equally as good at football I'd probably take everything off.

If it motivates the female and gay parts of our fan base whatís not to like. And judging by the reaction his topless shots get on Twitter I think itís working.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: darren woolley on May 16, 2019, 02:27:47 PM
I do that now and I'm 30 year's older mind you it does involve a lot of beer first and me being on the large side it would scare a lot of people lol.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on May 17, 2019, 10:12:03 PM
He also ran a marathon whilst holding two Leeds players.

Off the field, Mings has gained a reputation for charitable and generous acts.[26] He spent Christmas Day 2013 feeding homeless people[27] and when he was given the number 3 shirt by Ipswich at the beginning of the 2014Ė15 season, he replaced the shirts of fans who had already bought ones with his old number on the back.[6]
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: PaulWinch again on May 17, 2019, 10:40:20 PM
I love Tyrone, I really hope we go up and keep him.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Smirker on May 17, 2019, 10:58:50 PM
He does like to take his shirt off and reveal his lean muscular body doesn't he?  Mind you, if I was 30 years younger and had a physique like his and equally as good at football I'd probably take everything off.

😂
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: chrisw1 on May 18, 2019, 05:27:53 PM
Bournemouth have had a bid accepted for Bristol city's Lloyd Kelly.  A left sided defender can play left back and centre half.  May be good news for us re Tyrone?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: jwarry on May 18, 2019, 05:44:00 PM
Bournemouth have had a bid accepted for Bristol city's Lloyd Kelly.  A left sided defender can play left back and centre half.  May be good news for us re Tyrone?

Never heard of him how can he better than Mings. Are Bournemouth one of those clubs that need to sell now and again to survive financially?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Lastfootstamper on May 18, 2019, 05:46:48 PM
I'm fairly sure that Bournemouth are one of the clubs that don't even need people to pay to get in to watch them in order to survive.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: NottsVilla on May 18, 2019, 07:45:37 PM
I reckon Mings would be 4th in the Cherries picking order if he returned now considering their sizeable investments into Ake, Mepham and now Kelly. So unless they sell Ake or are planning on playing Kelly at LB I think we've got a decent shot at keeping him.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Tayls_7 on May 18, 2019, 08:00:12 PM
We are desperate to permanently acquire Bournemouth's 4th choice Centre Half. I'm informing the Flat Earth Society. There are no rules.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Ads on May 18, 2019, 08:19:16 PM
The fact Bournemouth are in the top flight with a ground smaller than the Holte End should have told you the Earth went flat and we're run by Lizards, a long time ago.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Villafirst on May 18, 2019, 08:21:55 PM
Hopefully next season he'll be playing in front on 42,000 every other week instead of 11,000 at Bournemouth which isn't much bigger than Bescot.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: chrisw1 on May 19, 2019, 10:49:42 AM
I think theyíll sell Ake this summer. It may well be that with his injury record they think getting 10m for Mings whilst he is fit is good business
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Dazvillain on May 21, 2019, 11:30:50 PM
Article from south coast today...

Mings very keen on staying at AV next season regardless of if they go up. Talks between the 2 clubs are to commence straight after the playoff final with Bournemouth hoping to recover the £8M they paid for him back in 2015

👍🏻🤞🏻
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: DrGonzo on May 22, 2019, 12:13:45 AM
worth every penny... fights til he drops and doesnt respect reputaions.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Newby on May 22, 2019, 07:02:58 AM
If we don't go up, and only had money to sign one player, I would want it to be on him.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: SheffieldVillain on May 22, 2019, 09:32:07 AM
Article from south coast today...

Mings very keen on staying at AV next season regardless of if they go up. Talks between the 2 clubs are to commence straight after the playoff final with Bournemouth hoping to recover the £8M they paid for him back in 2015

👍🏻🤞🏻

£8m? A bargain in today's market.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: chrisw1 on May 22, 2019, 10:36:38 AM
That would be great.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: JUAN PABLO on May 22, 2019, 11:23:41 AM
If Carlsberg made signings

£8 million for Mings

Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Pat Mustard on May 22, 2019, 11:31:28 AM
Article from south coast today...

Mings very keen on staying at AV next season regardless of if they go up. Talks between the 2 clubs are to commence straight after the playoff final with Bournemouth hoping to recover the £8M they paid for him back in 2015

👍🏻🤞🏻

£8m? A bargain in today's market.

If this is true then I'd be snapping their hands off - Mings would be our most important signing of the summer whatever division we are in. Had a look at a Bournemouth forum to see their views, looks like there are quite a few over there who would like him back and his form at Villa certainly hasn't gone unnoticed.

As an aside, their comments on the ref in the second leg of the play-off final make interesting reading - the neutral view certainly doesn't tally with the Bogeyes assessment!
https://bournemouth-forum.vitalfootball.co.uk/threads/tyrone-mings-legend-or-bad-a.8442/page-6
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Ian J on May 22, 2019, 01:52:59 PM
I really hope he stays. He's been a revelation. We've had some great loan signings who really want to play here, it's quite refreshing to see after so many turds we have actually given silly contracts too. Last season Robert Snodgrass was another, cracking attitudes to have.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: eamonn on May 22, 2019, 02:42:45 PM
I like that description of us by a Bomo fan: "a latent, hibernating top-six club" that they shouldn't be helping! Indeed.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Richard E on May 22, 2019, 04:16:54 PM
Article from south coast today...

Mings very keen on staying at AV next season regardless of if they go up. Talks between the 2 clubs are to commence straight after the playoff final with Bournemouth hoping to recover the £8M they paid for him back in 2015

👍🏻🤞🏻

£8m? A bargain in today's market.

Especially in a universe where Burnley are allegedly willing to part with £15 million in actual money for Craig Dawson.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: LeeB on May 22, 2019, 04:34:11 PM
Article from south coast today...

Mings very keen on staying at AV next season regardless of if they go up. Talks between the 2 clubs are to commence straight after the playoff final with Bournemouth hoping to recover the £8M they paid for him back in 2015

👍🏻🤞🏻

£8m? A bargain in today's market.

Especially in a universe where Burnley are allegedly willing to part with £15 million in actual money for Craig Dawson.

Christ!

Although I bet Dyche was aroused by the lump meeting that long throw into the box.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: paul_e on May 22, 2019, 06:28:54 PM
I said on the transfer thread that I suspected Mings would be 6-8m so I'm not surprised by this story. As I said there half a season of playing regularly and looking excellent has us thinking his value is huge but 3 1/2 years of injury problems and 40m of signings in his positions means Bournemouth won't agree.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: cheltenhamlion on May 23, 2019, 07:14:16 PM
Can he get a 2nd yellow for jumping into the fans at the end.....smiley thing I think!

The stroppy stewards didn't look very happy, did they? One bloke physically pushed him. Nice that Mings The Merciless just turned and smiled at him.

Baggies stewards have always been twats.

Although I had a most amusing encounter with a copper there the once. It was the McLeish season and the 0-0 game. They were full of it about us getting relegated and we had the usual graceful interactions with the twats to the left.

Unfortunately I was sat right next to them and couldn't resist throwing a wanker sign at the fat, red faced bloke in his 50's who was quite literally spitting bile across the segregation netting.

Within 30 seconds one of West Midlands finest approached me and I thought I was due for my second ejection from The Hawthorns.

"I am sorry officer for the wanker sign but have you seen how he has been behaving?"

The response was unexpected. "Don't worry son, I can't stand the c***s either".

A Wolves fan who spent all of the second half keeping me abreast of scores at other games. I dont think he took his job too seriously.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Colhint on May 24, 2019, 02:02:19 PM
press conference on you tube now


Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Sexual Ealing on May 24, 2019, 02:16:03 PM
I adore that man.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: chrisw1 on May 24, 2019, 02:22:45 PM
He does speak well.  He's certainly captain material.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: clash city rocker on May 24, 2019, 05:29:39 PM
He comes across really well.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: ChicagoLion on May 25, 2019, 09:15:06 AM
Top bloke.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: cdward on May 25, 2019, 09:54:13 AM
When he plays the final, he will have played more games for us 18, than he has in 4 years at Bournemouth.
He had only ever scored once before, when he was at Ipswich, and he has 2 for us.
Mings and Villa are meant to be together, let's hope he stays.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: VillaAlways on May 25, 2019, 10:18:29 AM
https://twitter.com/villareport/status/1131977689206788097?s=21
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: eamonn on May 25, 2019, 10:40:42 AM
Man, that guy could rock-up to any job interview and at least get through to the second stage of the process...so frickin' confident and personable.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: villasjf on May 25, 2019, 11:24:18 AM
He comes across as a very intelligent grounded footballer. Win on Monday and hopefully we can sign him permanently. His value must have shot up since he has been with us.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Villan For Life on May 27, 2019, 06:11:34 PM
We simply must sign him up, heís a natural successor to some of our legendary centre halves and a worthy one at that.

#sonofgod
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: supertom on May 27, 2019, 06:15:55 PM
We simply must sign him up, heís a natural successor to some of our legendary centre halves and a worthy one at that.

#sonofgod
My favourite centre-half since Laursen. He's brilliant. And you just don't expect him to be so comfortable on the ball either. Equal parts beast CH, and classy CH.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Toronto Villa on May 27, 2019, 06:16:21 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7lvHGOX4AApGw0.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: bodkins14 on May 27, 2019, 06:24:48 PM
We must sign him break the bank, he is the most gifted player since God and I mean that he reads the game so well and when he went toe to toe with Huddleston after the foul on Jack was wonderful, he also had such a calming influence on those around him. I honestly believe he is our best centre half since McGrath
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: phantom limb on May 27, 2019, 06:28:51 PM
Get him in
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Havencheese on May 27, 2019, 06:38:45 PM
He's a complete and utter boss. Owns all situations, oozes cool and has that extra charisma which can bring a group together. I'm pretty confident he'll want to stay too.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: PaulWinch again on May 27, 2019, 06:49:05 PM
Sign him now.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Dazvillain on May 27, 2019, 06:59:09 PM
We simply must sign him up, heís a natural successor to some of our legendary centre halves and a worthy one at that.

#sonofgod
My favourite centre-half since Laursen. He's brilliant. And you just don't expect him to be so comfortable on the ball either. Equal parts beast CH, and classy CH.
Agree with all that but....

Please please change title of this thread and remove CONFIRMED until he is now ?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: dean saunders left boot on May 27, 2019, 07:21:27 PM
Has to be our first signing, whatever it takes
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Tayls_7 on May 27, 2019, 07:35:27 PM
Has to be our first signing, whatever it takes

It won't be that onerous A sensible deal will be done.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Smirker on May 27, 2019, 07:40:01 PM
If he is willing to come then we pay what it takes. If that's £30-40m then so be it.

Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Villa75 on May 27, 2019, 07:58:02 PM
Brilliant player. Would love to keep him.

No coincidence that the only goal Derby scored was whilst Mings was lying injured.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 27, 2019, 08:23:59 PM
Much as I think he's been great and want him to stay I'd hope we aren't daft enough to pay £30-40m for him.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: PaulWinch again on May 27, 2019, 08:28:52 PM
Much as I think he's been great and want him him to stay I'd hope we aren't daft enough to pay £30-40m for him.

Indeed, supply and demand. No more than £8m.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 27, 2019, 08:37:36 PM
Much as I think he's been great and want him him to stay I'd hope we aren't daft enough to pay £30-40m for him.

Indeed, supply and demand. No more than £8m.

Makes it harder to guess as his last contract was only described as "long-term", but you'd guess it's 2 or 3 more years. I reckon he'd be £10-15m.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Smirker on May 27, 2019, 08:52:04 PM
£15m would be an absolute steal.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Villan For Life on May 27, 2019, 08:53:16 PM
I imagine that Bournemouth will just want to recoup their outlay on him.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: SheffieldVillain on May 27, 2019, 08:54:27 PM
Much as I think he's been great and want him him to stay I'd hope we aren't daft enough to pay £30-40m for him.

Indeed, supply and demand. No more than £8m.

Makes it harder to guess as his last contract was only described as "long-term", but you'd guess it's 2 or 3 more years. I reckon he'd be £10-15m.

Yeah, I'd agree. And would be happy to pay that. Allegedly we offered £12m for Mepham in January so around the same for Mings would be fair enough and doable I would think.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Villafirst on May 27, 2019, 09:49:18 PM
Mings won't want to play in front of a paltry 11,000 every other week at Bournemouth! I'm sure Wes and Nassef will increase our Stadium to 52,000 soon!
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 28, 2019, 12:44:55 AM
https://twitter.com/itsdxnni/status/1133093978100908032
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: ozzjim on May 28, 2019, 02:48:23 AM
We should pay £8-10 for him. Bournemouth will take that.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 28, 2019, 03:12:13 AM
We should pay £8-10 for him. Bournemouth will take that.

I'll pay £20 for him.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Matt C on May 28, 2019, 05:26:10 AM
Be amazed if heís not a Villa player next season.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: taylorsworkrate on May 28, 2019, 05:30:28 AM
It says everything that Derby only scored their goal after he injured himself making that brilliant challenge.

He has been an absolute colossus and he is as responsible as anyone for us going up.

100% must sign.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Matt Collins on May 28, 2019, 06:06:04 AM
We just have to pull out all the stops for him
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: mr underhill on May 28, 2019, 06:52:42 AM
The Emperor must stay.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: chrisw1 on May 28, 2019, 09:24:45 AM
Much as I think he's been great and want him to stay I'd hope we aren't daft enough to pay £30-40m for him.
Yeah, that would be just daft.  With his injury record, £10m should be about right.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: chrisw1 on May 28, 2019, 09:27:02 AM
https://twitter.com/itsdxnni/status/1133093978100908032
This is just briliant.  Can't believe he kept his full kit on - what a star!
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Clark W Griswold on May 28, 2019, 09:29:48 AM
It says everything that Derby only scored their goal after he injured himself making that brilliant challenge.

He has been an absolute colossus and he is as responsible as anyone for us going up.

100% must sign.

For me, the single biggest reason we're back in the PL, obviously Grealish, McGinn, Tammy and Dean Smith himself playing huge parts also.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Villan For Life on May 28, 2019, 09:34:11 AM
It says everything that Derby only scored their goal after he injured himself making that brilliant challenge.

He has been an absolute colossus and he is as responsible as anyone for us going up.

100% must sign.

For me, the single biggest reason we're back in the PL, obviously Grealish, McGinn, Tammy and Dean Smith himself playing huge parts also.

So he's not the single biggest reason then  ;)
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: LukeJames on May 28, 2019, 11:32:00 AM
The tackle just before there goal was superb! Get him in and give him a proper number.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: johnc on May 28, 2019, 12:01:36 PM
Tyrone Mings  was born to play in Claret & Blue
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: andyh on May 28, 2019, 01:00:16 PM
From twitter posts of the players party last night and what TM has posted today, he STILL hasnít taken his Villa kit off yet ! 😀
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: chrisw1 on May 28, 2019, 02:22:23 PM
From twitter posts of the players party last night and what TM has posted today, he STILL hasnít taken his Villa kit off yet ! 😀
Love it!
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: Risso on May 28, 2019, 02:32:26 PM
Has he signed yet?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: brian green on May 28, 2019, 03:29:54 PM
Some moments of Tyrone's play for us have been McGrathesque.  I can pay him no higher compliment.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings - Confirmed
Post by: UK Redsox on May 28, 2019, 03:37:20 PM
Could a Mod/Admin please change the thread title to reflect Mings' contract status ?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 28, 2019, 03:42:57 PM
Could a Mod/Admin please change the thread title to reflect Mings' contract status ?

Better?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Bren'd on May 28, 2019, 03:56:40 PM
He has done more in one half let alone the half season he's been with us than McCormack and Richards combined for their entire time here.  He really is awesome.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: aj2k77 on May 28, 2019, 04:00:30 PM
He is a professional footballer. Those two should be embarrassed.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Toronto Villa on May 28, 2019, 04:01:20 PM
He has done more in one half let alone the half season he's been with us than McCormack and Richards combined for their entire time here.  He really is awesome.

He did more in a couple of games than those two let alone half a season
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: DennisHodgetts on May 28, 2019, 04:07:53 PM
It's embarrassing that the Club have not announced his signing on a permanent deal yet, what are you waiting for Pitarch? ;)
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Bren'd on May 28, 2019, 04:19:05 PM
He has done more in one half let alone the half season he's been with us than McCormack and Richards combined for their entire time here.  He really is awesome.

He did more in a couple of games than those two let alone half a season

Read it again Toronto.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Tuscans on May 28, 2019, 04:37:25 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7qcJDoWkAgorkF.jpg)

Meanwhile back at Bournemouth train station  ;D ledge.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: kieron on May 28, 2019, 04:38:26 PM
Hero status achieved!
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: LukeJames on May 28, 2019, 04:41:54 PM
Absolute hero!
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: KRS on May 28, 2019, 04:49:42 PM
It's quite obvious Tyrone loves the Villa and everyone at Villa loves Tyrone. I am confident we will sign him.
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Post by: andyh on May 28, 2019, 04:55:32 PM
Tyrone is just taking the piss now.❤️❤️
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: frank black on May 28, 2019, 05:24:21 PM
Is he attempting to alienate the Bournemouth fans and take a large blowtorch to any bridges?

Good lad 😂🤣😅

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Post by: frank black on May 28, 2019, 05:25:51 PM
He just needs to go off on Holiday and post some full kit shots to instagram. Go on Tyrone
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Post by: chrisw1 on May 28, 2019, 05:32:11 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7qcJDoWkAgorkF.jpg)

Meanwhile back at Bournemouth train station  ;D ledge.
Just fucking brilliant!
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Post by: passport1 on May 28, 2019, 05:36:40 PM
Looks like he's calling his dad to pick him up after football!
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Post by: Toronto Villa on May 28, 2019, 05:53:07 PM
Legend status unlocked.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 28, 2019, 06:00:29 PM
You can see the Appleyard influence.
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Post by: West Derby Villan on May 28, 2019, 06:28:15 PM
I love him
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Post by: purpletrousers on May 28, 2019, 06:30:08 PM
Have there ever been loan signings so loved?!

Forgive me if I missed it, was there anything at all on his injury? (Might help keep his price down?)
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Post by: itbrvilla on May 28, 2019, 06:32:34 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7qcJDoWkAgorkF.jpg)

Meanwhile back at Bournemouth train station  ;D ledge.
Where was that posted?
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Post by: purpletrousers on May 28, 2019, 06:34:32 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7qcJDoWkAgorkF.jpg)

Meanwhile back at Bournemouth train station  ;D ledge.
Where was that posted?

Villa twitter account
ďHeís still going. 😂

@OfficialTM_3

#AVFCĒ

https://twitter.com/avfcofficial/status/1133404324233699329?s=21
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Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on May 28, 2019, 06:39:12 PM
It has to be a bet. Love him.
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Post by: Rigadon on May 28, 2019, 06:41:37 PM
Sometimes players (and managers) are just Ďrightí for clubs.  Mings and an uncommon number of the other newer players have really clicked.  Winning games helps the process of course!

We really must sign Mings.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 28, 2019, 06:48:28 PM
Have there ever been loan signings so loved?!


They were pretty popular last season.
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Post by: Toronto Villa on May 28, 2019, 06:51:47 PM
Yep. Especially Snodgrass loved the club and fans loved him. But this bloke has taken it the extra mile.
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Post by: kieron on May 28, 2019, 06:57:45 PM
Original here:

https://twitter.com/Nigel5626/status/1133389941692612608
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Post by: Ian J on May 28, 2019, 07:02:24 PM
Thatís just proper mad! What a top character, so really need to sign him up. Love it!
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Post by: Dazvillain on May 28, 2019, 07:03:02 PM
We simply must sign him up, heís a natural successor to some of our legendary centre halves and a worthy one at that.

#sonofgod
My favourite centre-half since Laursen. He's brilliant. And you just don't expect him to be so comfortable on the ball either. Equal parts beast CH, and classy CH.
Agree with all that but....

Please please change title of this thread and remove CONFIRMED until he is now ?
Just noticed someoneís changed it ... thanks. Letís hope it changes to confirmed permanent sooner rather than later
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Post by: TheMalandro on May 28, 2019, 07:11:34 PM
I think we'll have him signed within two weeks.
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Post by: Bren'd on May 28, 2019, 11:02:25 PM
I'll only be impressed by his choice of apparel if he meets Eddie Howe looking like that to discuss his future.  When I say discuss I mean meet up and just shrugs his shoulders. 
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Post by: Ad@m on May 28, 2019, 11:19:45 PM
Original here:

https://twitter.com/Nigel5626/status/1133389941692612608

He's got a load of crap off a Bournemouth fan about it too.

Which is great - that sort of thing only helps him to realise he's better off at VP.
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Post by: Risso on May 28, 2019, 11:22:14 PM
In his interview with Purslow, Dean says we've got options to buy three of the players.  Who are they, Hause, Mings and El Ghazi?
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Post by: Ad@m on May 28, 2019, 11:30:50 PM
In his interview with Purslow, Dean says we've got options to buy three of the players.  Who are they, Hause, Mings and El Ghazi?

Definitely Hause and El Ghazi.  By process of elimination it must be Mings as I don't think we've got options on either Tuanzebe or Tammy.
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Post by: AsTallAsLions on May 28, 2019, 11:31:30 PM
I love Tyrone to bits.
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Post by: Toronto Villa on May 28, 2019, 11:31:46 PM
Mings is a price match.
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Post by: thick_mike on May 29, 2019, 12:08:10 AM
Mings is the main reason we got promoted.

His tackle that resulted in his injury in the playoff final was worthy of McGrath. The fact that it led to the goal was no fault of his.
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Post by: KRS on May 29, 2019, 12:36:45 AM
Only saw that great tackle back this evening, and I would say that if he hadnít have been down injured then he would have been there and they wouldnít have got the goal that made it squeaky bum time for all of us. Tyrone is what legends are made of...and I hope we sign him so he can become a true Villa legend.
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Post by: DrGonzo on May 29, 2019, 12:42:41 AM
It wouldn't have been a Villa match without a tense last 10 minutes!
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Post by: brontebilly on May 29, 2019, 12:50:47 AM
In his interview with Purslow, Dean says we've got options to buy three of the players.  Who are they, Hause, Mings and El Ghazi?

Definitely Hause and El Ghazi.  By process of elimination it must be Mings as I don't think we've got options on either Tuanzebe or Tammy.

We have some kind of matching bid clause with Mings. That might drag out unfortunately as I expect Nathan Ake to be the subject of much interest this summer. Mings is his backup at Bournemouth.

El Ghazi is a Mendes player so getting him in might not be as easy after his performance last week. Bound to be plenty of interest.
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Post by: Toronto Villa on May 29, 2019, 01:58:47 AM
Superb

https://twitter.com/boudie83/status/1133390699582369796?s=12
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Tuscans on May 29, 2019, 03:48:19 AM
Nice come back Tyrone...

https://www.instagram.com/p/ByBdJ6egf2n/
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Post by: aj2k77 on May 29, 2019, 09:01:37 AM
All respect to Bournemouth, they've played some fantastic football and have a brilliant manager who lives their club but take away the TV money and there is nothing there, the ground could fit in the Holte End. It's not surprising that a player who's had bad times injury wise who now get's to play in front of 40,000 in a famous, traditional ground enjoyed himself.

I wouldn't be getting motivated to return to 10,000 fans in a baked bean tin. They're a flash in the pan and once they sink it will be back to historically where they belong, the 3rd division, it happens time and time again.

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Post by: The Edge on May 29, 2019, 09:09:54 AM
All respect to Bournemouth, they've played some fantastic football and have a brilliant manager who lives their club but take away the TV money and there is nothing there, the ground could fit in the Holte End. It's not surprising that a player who's had bad times injury wise who now get's to play in front of 40,000 in a famous, traditional ground enjoyed himself.

I wouldn't be getting motivated to return to 10,000 fans in a baked bean tin. They're a flash in the pan and once they sink it will be back to historically where they belong, the 3rd division, it happens time and time again.
"All respect to Bournemouth".......follow by "i wouldn't be getting motivated to return to 10,000 fans in a baked bean tin. Back where they belong in the 3rd tier" lol. What are you like when your not giving clubs "all respect"? Made me chuckle that did.
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Post by: olaftab on May 29, 2019, 09:20:50 AM
Mings is the main reason we got promoted.

His tackle that resulted in his injury in the playoff final was worthy of McGrath. The fact that it led to the goal was no fault of his.
Well without being too critical it was partly his fault. When he started rolling on the ground it distracted other Villa players who were half expecting the Ref to stop play. If he had sat up like he did moments later  it would not have been a distraction. But agree it was a great tackle.
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Post by: SW9-VILLA on May 29, 2019, 09:21:44 AM
Nice come back Tyrone...

https://www.instagram.com/p/ByBdJ6egf2n/

Don't know why people take time out to respond to these bedwetters on the internet. Top response though  8)
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Post by: UK Redsox on May 29, 2019, 09:22:43 AM
Could a Mod/Admin please change the thread title to reflect Mings' contract status ?

Better?

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Post by: olaftab on May 29, 2019, 09:25:01 AM
Superb

https://twitter.com/boudie83/status/1133390699582369796?s=12
haha...however not sure he should be driving his RR wearing sliders.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: fbriai on May 29, 2019, 09:47:03 AM
Mings is the main reason we got promoted.

His tackle that resulted in his injury in the playoff final was worthy of McGrath. The fact that it led to the goal was no fault of his.

Also, the only reason they scored is because he was injured at that moment. Had he been on his feet still, they'd never have got past him.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on May 29, 2019, 12:07:19 PM
I'd imagine Mings will turn around to Bournemouth and tell them that despite Villa having an agreement to meet any offer, he only wants to join us. Pretty pointless any other club putting in an offer if he doesn't want to talk to them. If that is the case, he could end up saving us a lot of money. Obviously, Bournemouth could play hardball and say he's not for sale but I can only see him in a Villa shirt next season.
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Post by: Nastylee on May 29, 2019, 12:10:10 PM
If Mings isn't offered a guaranteed place in the B'mouth defence then why would he stay? I'd imagine Howe will chat to him and I guess the outcome of that conversation will determine whether he comes or not.
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Post by: MalcolmP on May 29, 2019, 12:16:25 PM
If Mings isn't offered a guaranteed place in the B'mouth defence then why would he stay? I'd imagine Howe will chat to him and I guess the outcome of that conversation will determine whether he comes or not.

Even if he is offered a guaranteed place - Bournemouth or Aston Villa - there is no thinking to do - 42000 or 12000 watching every week - he is already a hero at VP so the choice has been made. (And no way can Bournemouth offer a better financial package) It has to be us !
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Post by: andyh on May 29, 2019, 12:20:58 PM
Superb

https://twitter.com/boudie83/status/1133390699582369796?s=12
haha...however not sure he should be driving his RR wearing sliders.
I think the round, drivey, thingy is on the other side 😉
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Post by: Somniloquism on May 29, 2019, 12:34:05 PM
Mings is the main reason we got promoted.

His tackle that resulted in his injury in the playoff final was worthy of McGrath. The fact that it led to the goal was no fault of his.
Well without being too critical it was partly his fault. When he started rolling on the ground it distracted other Villa players who were half expecting the Ref to stop play. If he had sat up like he did moments later  it would not have been a distraction. But agree it was a great tackle.

I could understand that argument if all our players stopped playing waiting for the whistle but I didn't see that. What we did have was a Mings sized hole in the centre where two Derby players where being marked by one Villa player.
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Post by: usav on May 29, 2019, 12:37:41 PM
Mings is the main reason we got promoted.

His tackle that resulted in his injury in the playoff final was worthy of McGrath. The fact that it led to the goal was no fault of his.
Well without being too critical it was partly his fault. When he started rolling on the ground it distracted other Villa players who were half expecting the Ref to stop play. If he had sat up like he did moments later  it would not have been a distraction. But agree it was a great tackle.

Have you ever had acute cramp?  It feels like someone has shot you.  I have no issue with him rolling around in those circumstances - it's about all you are capable of until the muscles relax.
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Post by: supertom on May 29, 2019, 12:56:50 PM
Mings is the main reason we got promoted.

His tackle that resulted in his injury in the playoff final was worthy of McGrath. The fact that it led to the goal was no fault of his.
Well without being too critical it was partly his fault. When he started rolling on the ground it distracted other Villa players who were half expecting the Ref to stop play. If he had sat up like he did moments later  it would not have been a distraction. But agree it was a great tackle.

Have you ever had acute cramp?  It feels like someone has shot you.  I have no issue with him rolling around in those circumstances - it's about all you are capable of until the muscles relax.
Yeah, a player like Mings doesn't go down and stay down lightly. No complaints for the big man from me.
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Post by: aj2k77 on May 29, 2019, 01:01:08 PM
All respect to Bournemouth, they've played some fantastic football and have a brilliant manager who lives their club but take away the TV money and there is nothing there, the ground could fit in the Holte End. It's not surprising that a player who's had bad times injury wise who now get's to play in front of 40,000 in a famous, traditional ground enjoyed himself.

I wouldn't be getting motivated to return to 10,000 fans in a baked bean tin. They're a flash in the pan and once they sink it will be back to historically where they belong, the 3rd division, it happens time and time again.
"All respect to Bournemouth".......follow by "i wouldn't be getting motivated to return to 10,000 fans in a baked bean tin. Back where they belong in the 3rd tier" lol. What are you like when your not giving clubs "all respect"? Made me chuckle that did.

Read my opinion on the Small Heath thread ;).
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Post by: OCD on May 29, 2019, 01:04:30 PM
Mings is the main reason we got promoted.

His tackle that resulted in his injury in the playoff final was worthy of McGrath. The fact that it led to the goal was no fault of his.
Well without being too critical it was partly his fault. When he started rolling on the ground it distracted other Villa players who were half expecting the Ref to stop play. If he had sat up like he did moments later  it would not have been a distraction. But agree it was a great tackle.

Have you ever had acute cramp?  It feels like someone has shot you.  I have no issue with him rolling around in those circumstances - it's about all you are capable of until the muscles relax.

I do, all too often. In fact my Hamstring went into cramp during the night. It's like the muscle is locked and I can't move. So for it to happen to a footballer in such circumstances, I'm not surprised he had to be substituted.
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Post by: Oscar Arce on May 29, 2019, 03:36:51 PM
Mings is getting a load of stick from Bournemouth fans for turning up back there in his full Villa kit, 'disrespectful' and that kind of thing, a few calling for him to be shipped out because he's not good enough.
Maybe there's a better chance of him coming now, a shrewd move from the big man.
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Post by: Dazvillain on May 29, 2019, 04:31:13 PM
A sports twitter feed suggesting a 25m fee agreed.
Iíd be very surprised if we value him at that much
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Post by: Duncan Shaw on May 29, 2019, 04:33:05 PM
Me too
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Post by: AsTallAsLions on May 29, 2019, 04:34:11 PM
A sports twitter feed suggesting a 25m fee agreed.
Iíd be very surprised if we value him at that much

Highly doubt we'd pay that. Could be wrong. I love Mings but even in the current market, surely 15m max would get him?
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Post by: clash city rocker on May 29, 2019, 04:42:43 PM
Mings is getting a load of stick from Bournemouth fans for turning up back there in his full Villa kit, 'disrespectful' and that kind of thing, a few calling for him to be shipped out because he's not good enough.
Maybe there's a better chance of him coming now, a shrewd move from the big man.

Well Bournemouth thought he wasn't good enough and shipped him out to us and that's why he's in the kit. Perhaps they think they made a mistake.Anyway in the words of so many good men.. Fuck em.
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Post by: OCD on May 29, 2019, 04:53:20 PM
Superb

https://twitter.com/boudie83/status/1133390699582369796?s=12
haha...however not sure he should be driving his RR wearing sliders.
I think the round, drivey, thingy is on the other side 😉

What he lacks in diplomacy he makes up for in ability.
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Post by: PaulWinch again on May 29, 2019, 05:38:37 PM
A sports twitter feed suggesting a 25m fee agreed.
Iíd be very surprised if we value him at that much

That is clearly bollocks.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on May 29, 2019, 05:54:37 PM
Let's get him signed up - we do love our centre backs at B6
George Curtis, Chris Nicholl, Ken McNaught, Allan Evans, Martin Laursen ,Olaf Mellburg and God
Tyrone can be as loved as these greats - the pictures of him at Bournemouth Station are brilliant as Are his comments post match about the club and fans
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Post by: danno on May 29, 2019, 05:58:36 PM
The Bournemouth fans prattling on about respect...

When did football supporters all become so thin skinned? Don't celebrate against your former club, don't make shh gestures in front of opposition fans, don't retweet gifs mocking a club that's lost 3-0, don't make bedsheets about Ant and Dec, don't hold fake funerals for relegated teams, don't celebrate a Messi free kick scored against Liverpool...

Isn't Football supposed to be yknow.. fun?
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Post by: john e on May 29, 2019, 06:22:25 PM
A sports twitter feed suggesting a 25m fee agreed.
Iíd be very surprised if we value him at that much


if he comes for anything less than 25m we will have got a bargain

personally i value him at 30m +
 there just isn't a lot of centre halfs of his quality and composure about

think about it this way if he was our player how much would you think he was worth if someone wanted to buy him ?

Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: danno on May 29, 2019, 06:27:49 PM
A sports twitter feed suggesting a 25m fee agreed.
Iíd be very surprised if we value him at that much

if he comes for anything less than 25m we will have got a bargain
personally i value him at 30m +
 there just isn't a lot of centre halfs of his quality and composure about

think about it this way if he was our player how much would you think he was worth if someone wanted to buy him ?

If he'd only played 22 games in four years for my club, I highly doubt I'd value him at £30 million plus.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: john e on May 29, 2019, 06:34:51 PM
A sports twitter feed suggesting a 25m fee agreed.
Iíd be very surprised if we value him at that much

if he comes for anything less than 25m we will have got a bargain
personally i value him at 30m +
 there just isn't a lot of centre halfs of his quality and composure about

think about it this way if he was our player how much would you think he was worth if someone wanted to buy him ?

If he'd only played 22 games in four years for my club, I highly doubt I'd value him at £30 million plus.

you don't think he's worth that then
fair enough

I think he's that good , I'm not bothered what games he's played or hasn't, I'm just judging him on the player he is now and the player I have seen since Christmas

if we can get him on the cheap all well and good but for me I still think he's a 30m player

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Post by: Rudy65 on May 29, 2019, 06:38:04 PM
Mings is the main reason we got promoted.

His tackle that resulted in his injury in the playoff final was worthy of McGrath. The fact that it led to the goal was no fault of his.
Well without being too critical it was partly his fault. When he started rolling on the ground it distracted other Villa players who were half expecting the Ref to stop play. If he had sat up like he did moments later  it would not have been a distraction. But agree it was a great tackle.

Have you ever had acute cramp?  It feels like someone has shot you.  I have no issue with him rolling around in those circumstances - it's about all you are capable of until the muscles relax.

It bloody hurts when you get it in bed. I have to put my leg on a cold radiator. Not sure sure why thinking about it!
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: danno on May 29, 2019, 06:41:38 PM
A sports twitter feed suggesting a 25m fee agreed.
Iíd be very surprised if we value him at that much

if he comes for anything less than 25m we will have got a bargain
personally i value him at 30m +
 there just isn't a lot of centre halfs of his quality and composure about

think about it this way if he was our player how much would you think he was worth if someone wanted to buy him ?

If he'd only played 22 games in four years for my club, I highly doubt I'd value him at £30 million plus.

you don't think he's worth that then
fair enough

I think he's that good , I'm not bothered what games he's played or hasn't, I'm just judging him on the player he is now and the player I have seen since Christmas

if we can get him on the cheap all well and good but for me I still think he's a 30m player

I'll be delighted if we sign him, but no at the present time I think if Bournemouth asked for say over £20 million I'd tell them to do one.

It's not my money though, so am not bothered if we overpay.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: VILLA MOLE on May 29, 2019, 06:49:42 PM
A sports twitter feed suggesting a 25m fee agreed.
Iíd be very surprised if we value him at that much

if he comes for anything less than 25m we will have got a bargain
personally i value him at 30m +
 there just isn't a lot of centre halfs of his quality and composure about

think about it this way if he was our player how much would you think he was worth if someone wanted to buy him ?

If he'd only played 22 games in four years for my club, I highly doubt I'd value him at £30 million plus.

Any deal should be based on appearances that could lead to 30 million
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: john e on May 29, 2019, 07:00:08 PM
I hope we can get him cheaper say 15m

but if he was ours Iíd definitely be wanting more than 20m for him,
in fact I wouldnít want to sell him it would take ridiculous money to even think about it

Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: chrisw1 on May 29, 2019, 08:54:46 PM
A sports twitter feed suggesting a 25m fee agreed.
Iíd be very surprised if we value him at that much

if he comes for anything less than 25m we will have got a bargain
personally i value him at 30m +
 there just isn't a lot of centre halfs of his quality and composure about

think about it this way if he was our player how much would you think he was worth if someone wanted to buy him ?

If he'd only played 22 games in four years for my club, I highly doubt I'd value him at £30 million plus.

you don't think he's worth that then
fair enough

I think he's that good , I'm not bothered what games he's played or hasn't, I'm just judging him on the player he is now and the player I have seen since Christmas

if we can get him on the cheap all well and good but for me I still think he's a 30m player


I disagree too.  Howe is no mug and there's a reason he has hardly played for 3 years.  He also has to be a massive injury risk.  Look at it from Bournemouths perspective if you had offered them their money back at Christmas for a player who has played a handful of games they would have bitten your hands off.  If they can get a bit more now before he gets injured again then surely it's happy days.

In terms of his qualities I agree with you.  I love him and he's been fantastic for us.  But paying any more than £12-15m would be daft.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: CT on May 29, 2019, 09:01:19 PM
Can't we just tell Bournemouth he's been bloody awful and we'll reluctantly stump £5m and say no more?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Toronto Villa on May 29, 2019, 09:55:28 PM
This is worth a quick watch.

https://twitter.com/officialtm_3/status/1133767436203941889?s=12
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Ad@m on May 29, 2019, 10:24:06 PM
This is worth a quick watch.

https://twitter.com/officialtm_3/status/1133767436203941889?s=12

He clearly loves us!

The sooner he tells Eddie Howe to do one the better.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Clark W Griswold on May 29, 2019, 10:29:29 PM
If he stays fit and plays for us for 3-4 years or longer he'll be worth every penny of £25m. If we pay it and he gets injured in his second game and plays a handful of games in 2-3 years it'll seem like a cock up.
He's brilliant but injury prone, all I'd say is I really hope we get him all the same.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: OzVilla on May 29, 2019, 10:36:16 PM
We once had similar reservations about signing an injury prone CB from Man Utd 30 years ago.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Meanwood Villa on May 29, 2019, 10:41:40 PM
Didn't realise he's only 26. £25m is acceptable i'd say. Sign him up.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Tokyo Sexwhale on May 29, 2019, 10:49:57 PM
As good as he has been for us, £25m is a massive risk for a player with his injury record who is unproven at Premier League level, and would probably be a hefty chunk of our transfer budget, especially as we probably need to buy 7 or 8 players.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Sexual Ealing on May 29, 2019, 10:52:29 PM
I would offer him my firstborn* and hope against hope that he wouldn't reject that child for being too ugly.

*I don't actually have a firstborn.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Villafirst on May 29, 2019, 10:55:57 PM
I think some people on here need to take a reality check. The Premier League has moved on somewhat over the last 3 years. £20m is nothing for a top class defender. John Stones from Everton to Man Citeh for £50m I think? Virgil Van Dijk at £75m? The TV revenue has pushed up transfer fees and wages massively. Is Van Dijk 3 times better than Tyrone?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: john e on May 29, 2019, 10:58:16 PM
I think some people on here need to take a reality check. The Premier League has moved on somewhat over the last 3 years. £20m is nothing for a top class defender. John Stones from Everton to Man Citeh for £50m I think? Virgil Van Dijk at £75m? The TV revenue has pushed up transfer fees and wages massively. Is Van Dijk 3 times better than Tyrone?


Tyrone did for us what Van Dijk did for Liverpool thatís for sure
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: frank on May 29, 2019, 11:20:13 PM
We once had similar reservations about signing an injury prone CB from Man Utd 30 years ago.
I think he's been absolutely tremendous: he has McGrath's timing and reading of the game, he's a leader on the field and he's intelligent and articulate; a future Villa captain if Jack eventually goes  As far as injuries are concerned, let's hope that he's got over them. McGrath was unique and it's hard to imagine Mings or anyone else carrying so many injuries and still performing brilliantly. Ron Vlaar, for example, didn't.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Villafirst on May 29, 2019, 11:29:15 PM
Jack is going nowhere! !
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: frank on May 29, 2019, 11:35:39 PM
Jack is going nowhere! !
Obviously I don't want him to and I don't think he will in the short term. But perhaps, eventually, the Champions League will prove irresistible for him.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Ad@m on May 30, 2019, 07:17:26 AM
Jack is going nowhere! !
Obviously I don't want him to and I don't think he will in the short term. But perhaps, eventually, the Champions League will prove irresistible for him.

You're not really explaining why he'll need to leave...
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: john e on May 30, 2019, 08:15:44 AM
Jack is going nowhere! !
Obviously I don't want him to and I don't think he will in the short term. But perhaps, eventually, the Champions League will prove irresistible for him.

You're not really explaining why he'll need to leave...

a team playing Champions league football might be tempting that would be a decent reason whether we like to think of it or not
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: wince on May 30, 2019, 08:19:36 AM
Jack is going nowhere! !
Obviously I don't want him to and I don't think he will in the short term. But perhaps, eventually, the Champions League will prove irresistible for him.

You're not really explaining why he'll need to leave...

a team playing Champions league football might be tempting that would be a decent reason whether we like to think of it or not

I donít think so at the moment. Jack surely must be selected soon for international duty. As for mings being proven in premier league. Letís give him that chance!
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: TheMalandro on May 30, 2019, 09:08:22 AM
Loaning Mings is going to blow up in Bournemouthís face.

Without this transfer, I have no doubt weíd still be in the Championship.

Cheers Bournemouth. Big mistake.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on May 30, 2019, 09:19:42 AM
Fee rumoured to be £15m. I'd imagine even that will have a few clauses in. Bournemouth can't complain, they paid £8m and hardly played him.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: thick_mike on May 30, 2019, 09:33:31 AM
He knows exactly what heís doing, arriving back at Bournemouth in his villa kit is a bit provocative. Heís engineering a move to a bigger club...the one he loves.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Risso on May 30, 2019, 10:06:40 AM
Most of the really popular (non local) players of recentish times (Mellberg, Laursen, Carew etc) have taken a while to achieve 'legendary' status.  Tyrone has done it in a few weeks.  Have seen lots of comments from fans of other clubs stating how much we're overstating how good he is.  Boy, are they in for a surprise.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: john e on May 30, 2019, 10:19:42 AM
Fee rumoured to be £15m. I'd imagine even that will have a few clauses in. Bournemouth can't complain, they paid £8m and hardly played him.

In fairness I think he was injured for a long period
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Monty on May 30, 2019, 11:07:21 AM
Most of the really popular (non local) players of recentish times (Mellberg, Laursen, Carew etc) have taken a while to achieve 'legendary' status.  Tyrone has done it in a few weeks.  Have seen lots of comments from fans of other clubs stating how much we're overstating how good he is.  Boy, are they in for a surprise.

Well now, we will have to wait and see, but the evidence sure is that he's way too good for, as it were, 16th-26th in the Premier league.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Billy Walker on May 30, 2019, 11:29:04 AM
Fifteen million with clauses attached to appearances etc. would seem fair to me.  Bournemouth would make a tidy profit and we would get a player with the hunger and desire to prove himself at Premier League level.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: chrisw1 on May 30, 2019, 11:32:25 AM
Fee rumoured to be £15m. I'd imagine even that will have a few clauses in. Bournemouth can't complain, they paid £8m and hardly played him.

In fairness I think he was injured for a long period
That's the point really John.  He's managed to stay fit for 4 months and has been quite superb at Championship level.  We all love him for obvious reasons.  But signing him will be a gamble and under the circumstances £10-£15m should really suffice. 
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Zouch Villa on May 30, 2019, 11:43:39 AM
Fee rumoured to be £15m. I'd imagine even that will have a few clauses in. Bournemouth can't complain, they paid £8m and hardly played him.

In fairness I think he was injured for a long period
That's the point really John.  He's managed to stay fit for 4 months and has been quite superb at Championship level.  We all love him for obvious reasons.  But signing him will be a gamble and under the circumstances £10-£15m should really suffice. 
Iím convinced Smith and Purslow will ensure we donít overpay, but will also be very aware how crucial Mings has been to our turnaround both on and off the pitch. 

The man has very quickly become a fans favourite because of his performances, but just as crucially the way he has shown his belief and passion for the club.

If we fail to sign him because we quibble over an extra few million, there would be uproar.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: olaftab on May 30, 2019, 11:44:08 AM
I think some people on here need to take a reality check. The Premier League has moved on somewhat over the last 3 years. £20m is nothing for a top class defender. John Stones from Everton to Man Citeh for £50m I think? Virgil Van Dijk at £75m? The TV revenue has pushed up transfer fees and wages massively. Is Van Dijk 3 times better than Tyrone?
You mean the player who is mostly credited with winning 97 points for Liverpool and takes the field in a Champions League final on Saturday? Yes I would say he is.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: danno on May 30, 2019, 12:00:30 PM
I think some people on here need to take a reality check. The Premier League has moved on somewhat over the last 3 years. £20m is nothing for a top class defender. John Stones from Everton to Man Citeh for £50m I think? Virgil Van Dijk at £75m? The TV revenue has pushed up transfer fees and wages massively. Is Van Dijk 3 times better than Tyrone?
You mean the player who is mostly credited with winning 97 points for Liverpool and takes the field in a Champions League final on Saturday? Yes I would say he is.

A more fair comparison would have been what Southampton paid for him. £13 million after full two seasons with Celtic and playing in Europe.  Love the emperor but he has only played 15 games or so.
   Prize shithouse Pontus Jansson was in the championship team of the year, I'd be interested to see what he's valued at.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on May 30, 2019, 12:18:56 PM
Fee rumoured to be £15m. I'd imagine even that will have a few clauses in. Bournemouth can't complain, they paid £8m and hardly played him.

In fairness I think he was injured for a long period

Sure but they still had no intention of playing him thus his loan to Villa.

Quote
Sky Sports News understands Eddie Howe is prepared to let him leave Bournemouth for the right price and Mings prefers a move to Villa.

However, they could face competition for his signature with the 26-year-old's form last season having got the attention of a number of other Premier League clubs.

Good luck to the other clubs when it's obvious Mings only wants to join one club.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: mr underhill on May 30, 2019, 12:31:35 PM
I hope he does but we can't get into a £25m matching clause situation for a guy who hasn't played very much in four years - great as he was for us. I'm sure our recruitment team has other options. Mings at £15m yes, anything more, it's a reluctant no from me.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on May 30, 2019, 12:37:45 PM
I hope he does but we can't get into a £25m matching clause situation for a guy who hasn't played very much in four years - great as he was for us. I'm sure our recruitment team has other options. Mings at £15m yes, anything more, it's a reluctant no from me.

Just wait for Birmingham City to table a £100m offer thinking we'll have to match it. Ain't gonna happen. The deal will be £10-£12m with add-ons.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Risso on May 30, 2019, 12:53:13 PM
I hope he does but we can't get into a £25m matching clause situation for a guy who hasn't played very much in four years - great as he was for us. I'm sure our recruitment team has other options. Mings at £15m yes, anything more, it's a reluctant no from me.

Just wait for Birmingham City to table a £100m offer thinking we'll have to match it. Ain't gonna happen. The deal will be £10-£12m with add-ons.

That's perfectly fair.  I won't begrudge paying them a bit more when he's captaining England and we're in the Champions League.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Toronto Villa on May 30, 2019, 02:17:35 PM
What's going to be interesting is how he reacts to playing in the much faster PL and how we react when it's not some forward from Leeds or Swansea come at him; but Salah or Aguero or Kane.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Risso on May 30, 2019, 02:34:27 PM
What's going to be interesting is how he reacts to playing in the much faster PL and how we react when it's not some forward from Leeds or Swansea come at him; but Salah or Aguero or Kane.

Or to put it another way, what will be interesting is how Salah, Aguero and Kane react when it's not Scott Dann they've got to get past, but Tyrone Motherfuckin' Emperor Mings!
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Ads on May 30, 2019, 03:55:50 PM
Mings has pace. That is what will give him the edge.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: LeeB on May 30, 2019, 06:11:43 PM
What's going to be interesting is how he reacts to playing in the much faster PL and how we react when it's not some forward from Leeds or Swansea come at him; but Salah or Aguero or Kane.

Or to put it another way, what will be interesting is how Salah, Aguero and Kane react when it's not Scott Dann they've got to get past, but Tyrone Motherfuckin' Emperor Mings!

Damn straight!
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: LeeB on May 30, 2019, 06:13:30 PM
And another thing, if he does join he'll be in the England squad by the end of the season.

He's better than than flappy footed Keane from Everton for a start.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Newby on May 30, 2019, 08:19:17 PM
And another thing, if he does join he'll be in the England squad by the end of the season.

He's better than than flappy footed Keane from Everton for a start.

Absolutely right.  Left sided too.  Jack will join him.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Ad@m on May 30, 2019, 08:33:19 PM
Can we not will our players in to the England team please, especially the ones we still haven't signed yet. That's where it all tends to go wrong...
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Eckybloke on May 30, 2019, 08:35:00 PM
Find him a Scottish granny. Weíll take him. Thereís little chance of Celtic coming falling.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Dante Lavelli on May 30, 2019, 09:59:56 PM
£10m plus a series of add ons which could aggregate £30m-ish seems fair.  Add ons being that he stays fit/selected and we remain in the daddy league over the duration of his contract.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: andyh on May 30, 2019, 10:49:03 PM
£20m worth of add ons? Feckin hell !

Thats ok if one of them is we pay Bournemouth an additional £15m if Mings scores the winner in the champions league final for us before 2021. Then itíll be worth it.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Risso on May 30, 2019, 10:50:31 PM
Mings has pace. That is what will give him the edge.

Pace, strength, passing and brilliant timing.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: dave shelley on May 31, 2019, 09:58:58 AM
He's always looking to be constructive when he plays the ball out of defence, and boy doesn't that make a difference after years of hoofball.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: rob_bridge on May 31, 2019, 10:09:11 AM
That moment at Wembley when Huddlestone and Grealish tangled. He straightened it out. I was very impressed.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: pauliewalnuts on May 31, 2019, 10:41:29 AM
Mings has pace. That is what will give him the edge.

Pace, strength, passing and brilliant timing.

His distribution is amongst the best I've seen in a centre half - pretty much always finds a man ball to feet, and not just simple five yard balls either.

If he has a weakness it is one that we collectively have at the back which is the occasional tendency to take unnecessary risks while passing at around in our own area.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: fbriai on May 31, 2019, 12:54:36 PM
He also has good positional sense and is excellent in the air as well.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: JUAN PABLO on May 31, 2019, 02:18:52 PM
His father works as a scout for Chelsea.

Handy to know .       Dad whispers to  son who whispers to Dean smith for some talent for the club.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Bren'd on May 31, 2019, 03:24:22 PM
I'm getting a bit concerned about him coming to us.

I haven't seen a photo of him in full Villa kit for the last 3 days. 
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on May 31, 2019, 03:24:47 PM

As much as i've loved Mings this season, it's been at Championship level. I have zero idea how he'll perform in the top league against far better players and neither does anyone else. Talk of 20m+ is fucking crazy. 12m plus a bunch of add ons would be ample for an unproven player with previous injury problems. He's not 'top drawer' until he's done it at the top lvel obviously. I still remember the problems Gayle caused him.

Saying that, i honestly feel Axel will go on to be the better of the two so i'd be busting United's balls to try and get that done if at all possible. Highly unlikely i know. But a similar price with add ons would be a magnificent deal.

Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: in exile on May 31, 2019, 03:31:27 PM
His father works as a scout for Chelsea.

Handy to know .       Dad whispers to  son who whispers to Dean smith for some talent for the club.

I thought Tyrone was raised in a homeless shelter while living with his mother there, so he may not be close to him
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: rob_bridge on May 31, 2019, 03:47:10 PM
He has a lot to prove but it would be good to get him and Axel in permanently
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Bren'd on May 31, 2019, 04:10:09 PM
He has a lot to prove but it would be good to get him and Axel in permanently

If he has a lot to prove then the same can be said for every single player on our books.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: rob_bridge on May 31, 2019, 09:09:36 PM
He has a lot to prove but it would be good to get him and Axel in permanently

If he has a lot to prove then the same can be said for every single player on our books.

Indeed it can. And therefore we need to be circumspect on players we add and remove from them at the cost. Especially after a dozen years when we were anything but.

I am a fan of Mings - I wouldn't spend 20m on a 26 year old who has played less than 100 games. Well I would if his name was Paul McGrath
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: The_ads on May 31, 2019, 09:23:19 PM
He has a lot to prove but it would be good to get him and Axel in permanently

If he has a lot to prove then the same can be said for every single player on our books.

Indeed it can. And therefore we need to be circumspect on players we add and remove from them at the cost. Especially after a dozen years when we were anything but.

I am a fan of Mings - I wouldn't spend 20m on a 26 year old who has played less than 100 games. Well I would if his name was Paul McGrath

Who was 30 when we signed him and had only played 160 odd not to mention slightly iffy knees and a dubious drinking record.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: rob_bridge on May 31, 2019, 09:32:37 PM
He has a lot to prove but it would be good to get him and Axel in permanently

If he has a lot to prove then the same can be said for every single player on our books.

Indeed it can. And therefore we need to be circumspect on players we add and remove from them at the cost. Especially after a dozen years when we were anything but.

I am a fan of Mings - I wouldn't spend 20m on a 26 year old who has played less than 100 games. Well I would if his name was Paul McGrath

Who was 30 when we signed him and had only played 160 odd not to mention slightly iffy knees and a dubious drinking record.

Indeed if his name was Paul McGrath - only 29 when we signed him
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: purpletrousers on June 01, 2019, 11:00:16 AM
Evidentially awesome. This is quite some chart, out there on his own to the point that in statistical analysis heíd be dismissed as an outlier.
Apologies if I missed it before.

Since I have your attention, did it get reported what his injury was, I thought I saw some discussion of cramp but often thatís stretched out/run off? .
(https://i.ibb.co/nR2dWwV/DE224476-FB73-4060-BFB4-13253-AA8-E999.jpg) (https://ibb.co/nR2dWwV)
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: purpletrousers on June 01, 2019, 11:05:11 AM
ďTyrone Mings is a cut-above, playing progressive passes to the opposition half often and with great accuracy. Ē

Though in following tweet,  having just found the whole thread

https://twitter.com/rramesss/status/1132945551513726976?s=21

ďMings' outlier nature in the previous graphic can be qualified from his deeper position.Ē
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on June 01, 2019, 11:18:09 AM
He has a lot to prove but it would be good to get him and Axel in permanently

If he has a lot to prove then the same can be said for every single player on our books.

Indeed it can. And therefore we need to be circumspect on players we add and remove from them at the cost. Especially after a dozen years when we were anything but.

I am a fan of Mings - I wouldn't spend 20m on a 26 year old who has played less than 100 games. Well I would if his name was Paul McGrath

Who was 30 when we signed him and had only played 160 odd not to mention slightly iffy knees and a dubious drinking record.


.. and who wasn't being touted around as a 20m player
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Matt Collins on June 01, 2019, 11:24:52 AM
Think it will be 10-12m plus add ons

Dan Bardwell on villa view says he's heard its essentially a done deal
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Mister E on June 01, 2019, 04:51:54 PM
Evidentially awesome. This is quite some chart, out there on his own to the point that in statistical analysis heíd be dismissed as an outlier...
Interesting, if a little difficult to read. Maybe some slightly to the right of Mings ought to be scouted as potential incoming CB for us?Can you supply a link to the original?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: purpletrousers on June 02, 2019, 10:07:16 AM
Evidentially awesome. This is quite some chart, out there on his own to the point that in statistical analysis heíd be dismissed as an outlier...
Interesting, if a little difficult to read. Maybe some slightly to the right of Mings ought to be scouted as potential incoming CB for us?Can you supply a link to the original?


Itís the twitter link in the post below, there is a whole thread of these type of charts apparently made by him.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: colin69 on June 02, 2019, 01:36:49 PM
Of all our loans, Mings is the one we have to get whatever the price.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: PeterWithe on June 05, 2019, 07:58:35 PM
Read over the shoulder of someone that weíd agreed a fee of £14m. Couldnít make out what the site was. No news on that?

Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Ads on June 05, 2019, 08:08:14 PM
Read over the shoulder of someone that weíd agreed a fee of £14m. Couldnít make out what the site was. No news on that?



A Ming vase has been sold today for £14m.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: mike on June 06, 2019, 10:02:18 AM
Unless (some will say even if) Chester can recover full fitness, we don't have a PL quality centre half at the club, plus there is a big three way love in between fans, Mings and the club so I suspect Bournemouth think they can bleed us dry. That might change when we start signing other centre halves.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Villafirst on June 06, 2019, 11:02:39 PM
According to Dan Bardell from the Villaview, Mings is currently away on holiday so him signing for Villa is probably 2/3 weeks away.... 
Apparently the offer is on the table for him to decide.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: TheMalandro on June 07, 2019, 09:49:50 AM
According to Dan Bardell from the Villaview, Mings is currently away on holiday so him signing for Villa is probably 2/3 weeks away.... 
Apparently the offer is on the table for him to decide.

He'll be stretching the shirt today, if the offers on the table.

Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Lastfootstamper on June 07, 2019, 10:07:32 AM
According to Dan Bardell from the Villaview, Mings is currently away on holiday so him signing for Villa is probably 2/3 weeks away.... 
Apparently the offer is on the table for him to decide.

He'll be stretching the shirt today, if the offers on the table.

You're assuming he's taken it off!
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: AsTallAsLions on June 07, 2019, 10:08:24 AM
According to Dan Bardell from the Villaview, Mings is currently away on holiday so him signing for Villa is probably 2/3 weeks away.... 
Apparently the offer is on the table for him to decide.

He'll be stretching the shirt today, if the offers on the table.



He is on holiday though. His instagram stories confirm as much.

Many players are. In terms of contracts being signed and photo confirmation etc., we're going to have to wait on anyone who played for us in the final (Mings / Hause / El Ghazi) because they haven't had the break that other teams have had.

I want him in ASAP but we'll hear nothing in the next few days I'd have thought. Maybe end of next week.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: mike on June 07, 2019, 10:12:49 AM
According to Dan Bardell from the Villaview, Mings is currently away on holiday so him signing for Villa is probably 2/3 weeks away.... 
Apparently the offer is on the table for him to decide.

He'll be stretching the shirt today, if the offers on the table.



He is on holiday though. His instagram stories confirm as much.

Many players are. In terms of contracts being signed and photo confirmation etc., we're going to have to wait on anyone who played for us in the final (Mings / Hause / El Ghazi) because they haven't had the break that other teams have had.

I want him in ASAP but we'll hear nothing in the next few days I'd have thought. Maybe end of next week.

Well fuck him then. If he can't be bothered dragging himself off whatever idyllic beach he's lying on, leaving his family and flying back to a rainy Birmingham to sign a contract and have his photo taken he obviously isn't as committed as we thought he was.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 07, 2019, 10:54:02 AM
According to Dan Bardell from the Villaview, Mings is currently away on holiday so him signing for Villa is probably 2/3 weeks away.... 
Apparently the offer is on the table for him to decide.

He'll be stretching the shirt today, if the offers on the table.



He is on holiday though. His instagram stories confirm as much.

Many players are. In terms of contracts being signed and photo confirmation etc., we're going to have to wait on anyone who played for us in the final (Mings / Hause / El Ghazi) because they haven't had the break that other teams have had.

I want him in ASAP but we'll hear nothing in the next few days I'd have thought. Maybe end of next week.

Well fuck him then. If he can't be bothered dragging himself off whatever idyllic beach he's lying on, leaving his family and flying back to a rainy Birmingham to sign a contract and have his photo taken he obviously isn't as committed as we thought he was.

The shit-haired douchebag.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Bren'd on June 07, 2019, 03:04:39 PM
According to Dan Bardell from the Villaview, Mings is currently away on holiday so him signing for Villa is probably 2/3 weeks away.... 
Apparently the offer is on the table for him to decide.

He'll be stretching the shirt today, if the offers on the table.

You're assuming he's taken it off!

Itís probably walked off on itís own accord. Polyester with sweat tends to hum a bit after a few hours let alone 2 weeks.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: hilts_coolerking on June 07, 2019, 03:05:25 PM
Imagine if he turns us down.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on June 07, 2019, 04:32:02 PM
The only doubt he may have is how he will remain involved in his Bournemouth based, interior design company he owns with an old school friend.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Duncan Shaw on June 07, 2019, 04:45:55 PM
The only doubt he may have is how he will remain involved in his Bournemouth based, interior design company he owns with an old school friend.
Skype, fast cars lot's of resources available to a rich lad!
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Newby on June 07, 2019, 05:30:11 PM
Or, open up a new branch in just as filthy rich Sutton Coldfield.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: mike on June 07, 2019, 06:53:42 PM
According to Dan Bardell from the Villaview, Mings is currently away on holiday so him signing for Villa is probably 2/3 weeks away.... 
Apparently the offer is on the table for him to decide.

He'll be stretching the shirt today, if the offers on the table.

You're assuming he's taken it off!

Itís probably walked off on itís own accord. Polyester with sweat tends to hum a bit after a few hours let alone 2 weeks.

He gave it to a girl not far from me after the match. I would've mugged her but her mom and dad were both about the same size as Tyrone.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on June 07, 2019, 09:58:05 PM
His partner isn't keen on moving from Bournemouth to Brum ( apparently)
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Post by: mike on June 07, 2019, 10:00:47 PM
His partner isn't keen on moving from Bournemouth to Brum ( apparently)

Well she's going to have to move from Bournemouth whether she likes it or not.
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Post by: TopDeck113 on June 07, 2019, 10:24:33 PM
Harry Redknapp spent his entire managerial career with a missus who wasn't keen on moving from Bournemouth.  If he was able to manage Blues and still have a house in Sandbanks, I'm sure Tyrone and his partner can sort something for the few years he'll be a Villa player.
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Post by: SheffieldVillain on June 07, 2019, 10:31:02 PM
His partner isn't keen on moving from Bournemouth to Brum ( apparently)

That's alright. We don't need her to, just Tyrone.
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Post by: adrenachrome on June 08, 2019, 02:12:03 AM
His partner isn't keen on moving from Bournemouth to Brum ( apparently)

That's alright. We don't need her to, just Tyrone.

I take your point, but look what happened with Unsworth and Holland.
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Post by: mr underhill on June 08, 2019, 08:02:05 AM
yes, I like Mings but no pissing about. We need people in asasp especially if we move onto other targets - the sooner they start work the better.
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Post by: Villafirst on June 08, 2019, 08:18:56 AM
Yes, the defence needs urgent attention, we don't want another Bruce scenario like last August!
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Post by: brian green on June 08, 2019, 08:23:59 AM
Yes but Mrs Unsworth had his tea on the table and Mrs Holland's horses would not come.  For all we know Mrs Mings might ride a 1000cc Ducati up and down the nation's motorways.
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Post by: Hookeysmith on June 08, 2019, 08:33:13 AM
His partner isn't keen on moving from Bournemouth to Brum ( apparently)

Having seen her if she wanted me to stay then I would stay.

Absolutely gorgeous
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Post by: Jon Crofts on June 08, 2019, 08:40:19 AM
His partner isn't keen on moving from Bournemouth to Brum ( apparently)

Northfield is lovely this time of year.
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Post by: brian green on June 08, 2019, 08:58:21 AM
Northfield has some lovely pubs run by some very nice people.  Well Rednal does.
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Post by: mike on June 08, 2019, 09:19:32 AM
Northfield has some lovely pubs run by some very nice people.  Well Rednal does.

Is it a while since you visited, Brian...
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Post by: nigel on June 08, 2019, 11:45:03 AM
Hey, stop dissing Northfield!

If you close your eyes to the odd shooting and stabbing, it's not that bad.
The Stone's not a bad pub and there are a couple of decent curry restaurants, too.
Short train ride to Stirchley for some decent beer (The Oak, Wildcat, Birmingham brewery tap house) and curry.
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Post by: Damo70 on June 08, 2019, 11:54:13 AM
I am guessing Mrs Mings is in her twenties and would want to live somewhere like London, Manchester or Birmingham. If they make a documentary called 'The Real Housewives Of Bournemouth' I would be surprised if any of the cast are under fifty.
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Post by: kippaxvilla2 on June 08, 2019, 11:54:44 AM
The Dukes was a particular favourite of mine.  Especially on open weapons nights.
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Post by: nigel on June 08, 2019, 04:06:42 PM
The Dukes was a particular favourite of mine.  Especially on open weapons nights.

Ahh, The Dukes..
Me and a mate went there in the early 80's. Walked in and it seemed like everyone was eyeing the two strangers!
We did a quick walk in, turned round and came out. Scared us both shitless!

Opened again recently as Mallory's (?) and closed again after a knife attack
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Post by: clash city rocker on June 08, 2019, 04:35:20 PM
If she wanted value for money how about selly oak. Used to love the Dog and Partridge...Now that was a pub.
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Post by: Pete3206 on June 08, 2019, 05:08:28 PM
Where's all this rubbish coming from anyway?

When he's back from hols, I'm certain he'll be signed.
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Post by: Mellin on June 08, 2019, 05:15:08 PM
The Dukes was a particular favourite of mine.  Especially on open weapons nights.

Ahh, The Dukes..
Me and a mate went there in the early 80's. Walked in and it seemed like everyone was eyeing the two strangers!
We did a quick walk in, turned round and came out. Scared us both shitless!

Opened again recently as Mallory's (?) and closed again after a knife attack

Medley's. Went once, never returned.
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Post by: Jon Crofts on June 08, 2019, 06:30:06 PM
Northfield has some lovely pubs run by some very nice people.  Well Rednal does.

The one I used to drink in wasn't.
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Post by: villa `cross the mersey on June 08, 2019, 07:46:14 PM
Struggling to think of a decent boozer in Rednal - The Chalet used to be half decent I suppose
I have lived in Rubery, Bournville and Weoley Castle
Can't think of decent watering holes back then other than The Black Horse and The Stone
Used to drink in the King George V
Having left Brum 23 years ago I bet they are all demolished or turned into Chinese/Indian restaurants
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Post by: Chris Smith on June 08, 2019, 08:00:22 PM
Struggling to think of a decent boozer in Rednal - The Chalet used to be half decent I suppose
I have lived in Rubery, Bournville and Weoley Castle
Can't think of decent watering holes back then other than The Black Horse and The Stone
Used to drink in the King George V
Having left Brum 23 years ago I bet they are all demolished or turned into Chinese/Indian restaurants

Hare and Hounds used to be ok back in the day but as a place to meet mates mid week rather than a night out but havenít been there in years. Black Horse is a Wetherspoons, The George was a Chinese but about to become a KFC apparently. Canít think of a decent pub left in the whole area.
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Post by: itmustbe_it is! on June 08, 2019, 08:04:32 PM
If she wanted value for money how about selly oak. Used to love the Dog and Partridge...Now that was a pub.

Not been the same since the Gun Barrels was demolished. Although to be fair I haven't been in since 1986. When I was 16, and it was round the corner from school. Always got served so long as we took our blazers and ties off. Back room full of "youths" all in identical black trousers and blue open neck shirts with a big pile of Adidas bags by the door !!
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Post by: villa `cross the mersey on June 08, 2019, 08:11:01 PM
Struggling to think of a decent boozer in Rednal - The Chalet used to be half decent I suppose
I have lived in Rubery, Bournville and Weoley Castle
Can't think of decent watering holes back then other than The Black Horse and The Stone
Used to drink in the King George V
Having left Brum 23 years ago I bet they are all demolished or turned into Chinese/Indian restaurants

Hare and Hounds used to be ok back in the day but as a place to meet mates mid week rather than a night out but havenít been there in years. Black Horse is a Wetherspoons, The George was a Chinese but about to become a KFC apparently. Canít think of a decent pub left in the whole area.
Where was the Hare and Hounds?
 Didn't there used to be one in Kings Heath?
I knew it as "The Hairy Mound"
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Post by: hilts_coolerking on June 08, 2019, 08:18:01 PM
Where was the Hare and Hounds?
 Didn't there used to be one in Kings Heath?
I knew it as "The Hairy Mound"
Yes, Kings Heath high street.  Better known as a music venue these days.  That was where we used to drink at lunchtime in the sixth form.
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Post by: Risso on June 08, 2019, 08:23:32 PM
If she wanted value for money how about selly oak. Used to love the Dog and Partridge...Now that was a pub.

Not been the same since the Gun Barrels was demolished. Although to be fair I haven't been in since 1986. When I was 16, and it was round the corner from school. Always got served so long as we took our blazers and ties off. Back room full of "youths" all in identical black trousers and blue open neck shirts with a big pile of Adidas bags by the door !!


The Gun Barrels was the pub my dad would take me to for Sunday lunch when he came up to visit me occasionally at Birmingham University.  The Brook and the OVT were the big student drinking places in Selly Oak back then.
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Post by: itmustbe_it is! on June 08, 2019, 08:31:50 PM
If she wanted value for money how about selly oak. Used to love the Dog and Partridge...Now that was a pub.

Not been the same since the Gun Barrels was demolished. Although to be fair I haven't been in since 1986. When I was 16, and it was round the corner from school. Always got served so long as we took our blazers and ties off. Back room full of "youths" all in identical black trousers and blue open neck shirts with a big pile of Adidas bags by the door !!


The Gun Barrels was the pub my dad would take me to for Sunday lunch when he came up to visit me occasionally at Birmingham University.  The Brook and the OVT were the big student drinking places in Selly Oak back then.

The OVT brings back memories too.
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Post by: villa `cross the mersey on June 08, 2019, 09:00:52 PM
If she wanted value for money how about selly oak. Used to love the Dog and Partridge...Now that was a pub.

Not been the same since the Gun Barrels was demolished. Although to be fair I haven't been in since 1986. When I was 16, and it was round the corner from school. Always got served so long as we took our blazers and ties off. Back room full of "youths" all in identical black trousers and blue open neck shirts with a big pile of Adidas bags by the door !!


The Gun Barrels was the pub my dad would take me to for Sunday lunch when he came up to visit me occasionally at Birmingham University.  The Brook and the OVT were the big student drinking places in Selly Oak back then.
When I lived in Bournville I used to drink at The Country Girl 
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Post by: charleeco7 on June 08, 2019, 09:17:09 PM
According to a AV Agent on Twitter weíve had a bid accepted for Mings this evening. The guy is almost always spot on with his info.
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Post by: Toronto Villa on June 08, 2019, 09:18:40 PM
Make it so. AEG, Hause, Mings all next week as the PL fixtures are announced
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Post by: Lastfootstamper on June 08, 2019, 09:22:20 PM
If she wanted value for money how about selly oak. Used to love the Dog and Partridge...Now that was a pub.

Not been the same since the Gun Barrels was demolished. Although to be fair I haven't been in since 1986. When I was 16, and it was round the corner from school. Always got served so long as we took our blazers and ties off. Back room full of "youths" all in identical black trousers and blue open neck shirts with a big pile of Adidas bags by the door !!


The Gun Barrels was the pub my dad would take me to for Sunday lunch when he came up to visit me occasionally at Birmingham University.  The Brook and the OVT were the big student drinking places in Selly Oak back then.


Ahhh, the OVT, scene of one of my favourite wedding reception rumbles. Mother of the groom punched the DJ. Top night.
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Post by: villa `cross the mersey on June 08, 2019, 09:39:57 PM
If she wanted value for money how about selly oak. Used to love the Dog and Partridge...Now that was a pub.

Not been the same since the Gun Barrels was demolished. Although to be fair I haven't been in since 1986. When I was 16, and it was round the corner from school. Always got served so long as we took our blazers and ties off. Back room full of "youths" all in identical black trousers and blue open neck shirts with a big pile of Adidas bags by the door !!


The Gun Barrels was the pub my dad would take me to for Sunday lunch when he came up to visit me occasionally at Birmingham University.  The Brook and the OVT were the big student drinking places in Selly Oak back then.


Ahhh, the OVT, scene of one of my favourite wedding reception rumbles. Mother of the groom punched the DJ. Top night.
That made me chuckle - I think I can probably trump that ..... went to a wedding in Chelmsley Wood and the Groom was caught shagging one of the bridesmaids in one of the bedrooms in the hotel where the reception was being held - classy  eh?
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Post by: KRS on June 08, 2019, 10:20:45 PM
Only on H&V could you find stories of grooms shagging bridesmaids in a thread about Tyrone Mings! 😂
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Post by: Smithy on June 09, 2019, 07:41:56 AM
A bit of speculation this morning about Spurs looking at Ake in a £40m deal (it's only in The Sun, admittedly). That wouldn't be good news for us, as Bournemouth wouldn't need our money as much, and they'd also be a centre-half down.  Hopefully it's nothing more than paper gossip - but the sooner we get Mings to sign on the dotted line, the happier I'll be...
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Post by: brian green on June 09, 2019, 08:13:21 AM
Sorry to be late on topic but I was being ironic about Northfield/Rednal pubs.  Wasn't Jack's on field attacker a Rednal publican? Apologies if I am being a geriatric again.

Get Tyrone signed.  On the Nederlands game evidence he will be in the England squad within a year.
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Post by: ChicagoLion on June 09, 2019, 08:55:17 AM
If she wanted value for money how about selly oak. Used to love the Dog and Partridge...Now that was a pub.

Not been the same since the Gun Barrels was demolished. Although to be fair I haven't been in since 1986. When I was 16, and it was round the corner from school. Always got served so long as we took our blazers and ties off. Back room full of "youths" all in identical black trousers and blue open neck shirts with a big pile of Adidas bags by the door !!


The Gun Barrels was the pub my dad would take me to for Sunday lunch when he came up to visit me occasionally at Birmingham University.  The Brook and the OVT were the big student drinking places in Selly Oak back then.


Ahhh, the OVT, scene of one of my favourite wedding reception rumbles. Mother of the groom punched the DJ. Top night.
That made me chuckle - I think I can probably trump that ..... went to a wedding in Chelmsley Wood and the Groom was caught shagging one of the bridesmaids in one of the bedrooms in the hotel where the reception was being held - classy  eh?
One up a ship alert.
A mate of mine banged the Bride on her wedding day.
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Post by: mike on June 09, 2019, 09:10:49 AM
Where was the Hare and Hounds?
 Didn't there used to be one in Kings Heath?
I knew it as "The Hairy Mound"
Yes, Kings Heath high street.  Better known as a music venue these days.  That was where we used to drink at lunchtime in the sixth form.

What year was that? I fondly remember a couple of lunchtime pints at the Hare and Hounds.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Chris Smith on June 09, 2019, 09:39:40 AM
Struggling to think of a decent boozer in Rednal - The Chalet used to be half decent I suppose
I have lived in Rubery, Bournville and Weoley Castle
Can't think of decent watering holes back then other than The Black Horse and The Stone
Used to drink in the King George V
Having left Brum 23 years ago I bet they are all demolished or turned into Chinese/Indian restaurants

Hare and Hounds used to be ok back in the day but as a place to meet mates mid week rather than a night out but havenít been there in years. Black Horse is a Wetherspoons, The George was a Chinese but about to become a KFC apparently. Canít think of a decent pub left in the whole area.
Where was the Hare and Hounds?
 Didn't there used to be one in Kings Heath?
I knew it as "The Hairy Mound"

Itís on Lickey Road by the amusements, opposite the old tram stop.
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Post by: mike on June 09, 2019, 10:59:13 AM
Struggling to think of a decent boozer in Rednal - The Chalet used to be half decent I suppose
I have lived in Rubery, Bournville and Weoley Castle
Can't think of decent watering holes back then other than The Black Horse and The Stone
Used to drink in the King George V
Having left Brum 23 years ago I bet they are all demolished or turned into Chinese/Indian restaurants

Hare and Hounds used to be ok back in the day but as a place to meet mates mid week rather than a night out but havenít been there in years. Black Horse is a Wetherspoons, The George was a Chinese but about to become a KFC apparently. Canít think of a decent pub left in the whole area.
Where was the Hare and Hounds?
 Didn't there used to be one in Kings Heath?
I knew it as "The Hairy Mound"

Itís on Lickey Road by the amusements, opposite the old tram stop.


I worked there many years ago. The one in Kings Heath is where I had my lunchtime drinks in the sixth form.

Considering everyone in South Birmingham is supposedly a nose, there seem to a few of us who know the area quite well.
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Post by: hilts_coolerking on June 09, 2019, 11:29:31 AM
Where was the Hare and Hounds?
 Didn't there used to be one in Kings Heath?
I knew it as "The Hairy Mound"
Yes, Kings Heath high street.  Better known as a music venue these days.  That was where we used to drink at lunchtime in the sixth form.

What year was that? I fondly remember a couple of lunchtime pints at the Hare and Hounds.
88-90
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: mike on June 09, 2019, 12:23:24 PM
Where was the Hare and Hounds?
 Didn't there used to be one in Kings Heath?
I knew it as "The Hairy Mound"
Yes, Kings Heath high street.  Better known as a music venue these days.  That was where we used to drink at lunchtime in the sixth form.

What year was that? I fondly remember a couple of lunchtime pints at the Hare and Hounds.
88-90

Ah, you went up to the sixth form the year I left.
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Post by: Villafirst on June 09, 2019, 02:16:16 PM
Let's get back on track. Hopefully Mings is a Villa player by this time next week?
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Post by: eamonn on June 09, 2019, 07:54:34 PM
If she wanted value for money how about selly oak. Used to love the Dog and Partridge...Now that was a pub.

Not been the same since the Gun Barrels was demolished. Although to be fair I haven't been in since 1986. When I was 16, and it was round the corner from school. Always got served so long as we took our blazers and ties off. Back room full of "youths" all in identical black trousers and blue open neck shirts with a big pile of Adidas bags by the door !!


The Gun Barrels was the pub my dad would take me to for Sunday lunch when he came up to visit me occasionally at Birmingham University.  The Brook and the OVT were the big student drinking places in Selly Oak back then.


Ahhh, the OVT, scene of one of my favourite wedding reception rumbles. Mother of the groom punched the DJ. Top night.
That made me chuckle - I think I can probably trump that ..... went to a wedding in Chelmsley Wood and the Groom was caught shagging one of the bridesmaids in one of the bedrooms in the hotel where the reception was being held - classy  eh?

It wasn't Lee Hendrie, was it?
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Post by: ozzjim on June 09, 2019, 11:26:27 PM
He has tweeted someone back about re-watching the final tonight that he wasn't following on twitter, so is clearly watching the villa feed on there. He will sign I am sure. Has a good season and Stones can do one too, Mings is a much better player.
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Post by: Behind Bluenose Lines on June 10, 2019, 02:37:23 PM
Any developments out there?
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Post by: olaftab on June 10, 2019, 02:45:58 PM
Just looked out of the window and yes it's raining.
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Post by: VILLA MOLE on June 10, 2019, 02:47:26 PM
Just looked out of the window and yes it's raining.

not here !!
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Post by: Sexual Ealing on June 10, 2019, 03:32:21 PM
It's shitting it down in old London town.
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Post by: itbrvilla on June 10, 2019, 03:37:50 PM
Blistering hot here in Keswick
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Post by: AsTallAsLions on June 10, 2019, 03:41:59 PM
Partially cloudy with a chance of Mings here in Dublin.
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Post by: Newby on June 10, 2019, 04:06:37 PM
32 degrees here in Aruba.
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Post by: VILLA MOLE on June 10, 2019, 04:12:37 PM
Partially cloudy with a chance of Mings here in Dublin.

it is minging ??
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Post by: TheMalandro on June 10, 2019, 04:12:45 PM
Cloudy, 16 degrees in Kokomo.
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Post by: Chap on June 10, 2019, 06:41:43 PM
Sunny, 18 degrees in Lisbon🌞
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Post by: cheltenhamlion on June 10, 2019, 06:48:24 PM
It has stopped with the constant drizzle in Brum now. And dont shit it about Mings. He is coming here.
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Post by: Rodders on June 10, 2019, 08:13:46 PM
A sunny 14 in Moffat, Dumfriesshire and all I can think about is that when the TyMings right it will all come to pass.

(sorry)
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Post by: purpletrousers on June 10, 2019, 08:22:08 PM
Quite grey over Billís motherís.
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Post by: brian green on June 10, 2019, 09:46:18 PM
In the land of the Carrot Crunchers (copyright K Dodd)  it be wet.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Sexual Ealing on June 10, 2019, 09:47:54 PM
In the land of the Carrot Crunchers (copyright K Dodd)  it be wet.

Oi hent sin owld foire ball for daays.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: TheMalandro on June 10, 2019, 09:48:29 PM
A sunny 14 in Moffat, Dumfriesshire and all I can think about is that when the TyMings right it will all come to pass.

(sorry)

Nice waterfall!
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Post by: dave shelley on June 10, 2019, 09:48:52 PM
Wind, rain, hail, thunder and sun here today.  It can't make its fuckin' mind up.
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Post by: mike on June 10, 2019, 10:52:09 PM
Gloomy and overcast here. Usually is.
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Post by: cheltenhamlion on June 11, 2019, 10:38:24 AM
Shit in Birmingham and the Black Country today. Wind and pussing down.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Bad English on June 11, 2019, 10:39:22 AM
Shit in Birmingham and the Black Country today. Wind and pussing down.
Just raining cats, no dogs?
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Post by: cheltenhamlion on June 11, 2019, 10:46:24 AM
Shit in Birmingham and the Black Country today. Wind and pussing down.
Just raining cats, no dogs?

I wont correct my auto correct on general principle. You could fuck off though.....
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Post by: Duncan Shaw on June 11, 2019, 11:00:54 AM
Can we stop with the f*cking weather updates now please....I keep thinking there's news when this goes back to the top of the list!!!
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Bad English on June 11, 2019, 11:12:31 AM
Shit in Birmingham and the Black Country today. Wind and pussing down.
Just raining cats, no dogs?

I wont correct my auto correct on general principle. You could fuck off though.....
Charming! You could get some fucking manners or a sense of self-deprecation.
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Post by: mike on June 11, 2019, 11:14:19 AM
Can we stop with the f*cking weather updates now please....I keep thinking there's news when this goes back to the top of the list!!!

Quite agree, can we get back to pubs in South Birmingham. The Prince of Wales in Moseley was good (going back 40 years).
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Post by: Dr Butler on June 11, 2019, 11:23:58 AM
apparently there are no more pubs in Stechford....I never had the heart to tell my old Dad that The Glebe and Manor House(?) was no more...

UTV
The Doc
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Post by: robbo1874 on June 11, 2019, 11:37:36 AM
Can we stop with the f*cking weather updates now please....I keep thinking there's news when this goes back to the top of the list!!!
sorry Duncan- a brisk 23 deg winterís day in Bris-Vegas today
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Post by: eamonn on June 11, 2019, 11:38:18 AM
Shit in Birmingham and the Black Country today. Wind and pussing down.
Just raining cats, no dogs?

I wont correct my auto correct on general principle. You could fuck off though.....
Charming! You could get some fucking manners or a sense of self-deprecation.

An an appreciation for the best pun on the thread to date.
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Post by: VinnieChase84 on June 11, 2019, 11:45:46 AM
Brighton and hove fucking Albion.
Tyís Mrs doesnít want to leave south coast. Now the above in for him.😢
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: VILLA MOLE on June 11, 2019, 11:47:10 AM
Shit in Birmingham and the Black Country today. Wind and pussing down.
Just raining cats, no dogs?

I wont correct my auto correct on general principle. You could fuck off though.....
Charming! You could get some fucking manners or a sense of self-deprecation.

An an appreciation for the best pun on the thread to date.


How does this turn into a row?  :-\
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Post by: ChicagoLion on June 11, 2019, 11:55:27 AM
Shit in Birmingham and the Black Country today. Wind and pussing down.
Just raining cats, no dogs?

I wont correct my auto correct on general principle. You could fuck off though.....
Charming! You could get some fucking manners or a sense of self-deprecation.

An an appreciation for the best pun on the thread to date.


How does this turn into a row?  :-\
Donít you start.
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Post by: AsTallAsLions on June 11, 2019, 12:12:03 PM
Brighton and hove fucking Albion.
Tyís Mrs doesnít want to leave south coast. Now the above in for him.😢

Where are you getting this from?
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Post by: kieron on June 11, 2019, 12:39:49 PM
Then he needs to leave her immediately. It's quite simple.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Behind Bluenose Lines on June 11, 2019, 12:44:38 PM
As they say: happy wife, happy life!

(Runs from PC police...)
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Risso on June 11, 2019, 01:14:56 PM
As they say: happy wife, happy life!

(Runs from PC police...)

Or...£60K a year, wife needn't shed a tear.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: eamonn on June 11, 2019, 01:19:31 PM
Doesn't Terry commute from southern climes too? Mings could manage that.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: AV82EC on June 11, 2019, 01:34:14 PM
Doesn't Terry commute from southern climes too? Mings could manage that.

Have you seen the A34....
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Sexual Ealing on June 11, 2019, 01:37:24 PM
Also, I think they have a couple of rottweilers, which must take some looking after. [/eastie]
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Des Little on June 11, 2019, 02:01:20 PM
As they say: happy wife, happy life!

(Runs from PC police...)

Or...£60K a year, wife needn't shed a tear.

She would if he settled for £60k a year
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: aldridgeboy on June 11, 2019, 02:26:42 PM
Then he needs to leave her immediately. It's quite simple.

This !!! Iím sure heíd pull easily on Broad St on a Saturday night. Definitely in Bushwackers 😂
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: VinnieChase84 on June 11, 2019, 02:31:59 PM
Also, I think they have a couple of rottweilers, which must take some looking after. [/eastie]

Theyíve just had a baby (actual baby, not puppy)
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: AsTallAsLions on June 11, 2019, 02:33:26 PM
Vinnie seems to be FITK.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: VinnieChase84 on June 11, 2019, 03:02:56 PM
All I know (canít say how) is;
- His mrs has been an issue in the deal so far as doesnít want to move from south coast
- Theyíve got a family together
- Brighton have come in for him (donít know if theyíve had a bid accepted or not)

Itís now down to Ty to decide
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: aj2k77 on June 11, 2019, 03:14:30 PM
He needs to just tell her to fuck off. Sick to death of these fucking moaning nags playing up and getting in the way.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Duncan Shaw on June 11, 2019, 03:39:33 PM
All I know (can’t say how) is;
- His mrs has been an issue in the deal so far as doesn’t want to move from south coast
- They’ve got a family together
- Brighton have come in for him (don’t know if they’ve had a bid accepted or not)

It’s now down to Ty to decide

Not doubting you mate, sounds a bit worrying.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: AsTallAsLions on June 11, 2019, 03:41:33 PM
Mrs. Unsworth, is that you?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: kieron on June 11, 2019, 03:44:40 PM
He/her have managed since January, so what's the problem?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Bad English on June 11, 2019, 03:45:24 PM
There's not a lot we can do if he's loved up, got children, and wants a stable home life.

Except offer him a big, fat contract with lots of money. If he doesn't want the Villa that badly then so be it.

I'm sure he'll be 'announced' soon.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: KRS on June 11, 2019, 03:52:50 PM
Mings has always showed how much he loves it at Villa (and vice versa) so it will be very annoying if this falls through due to location/relationship issues.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Toronto Villa on June 11, 2019, 03:54:25 PM
Heís on holiday. He will be a Villa player within a couple of weeks.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Sexual Ealing on June 11, 2019, 03:55:36 PM
It really doesn't matter where you live of you're a millionaire.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: AsTallAsLions on June 11, 2019, 03:55:56 PM
Heís on holiday. He will be a Villa player within a couple of weeks.

He's back home now.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: VinnieChase84 on June 11, 2019, 04:00:25 PM
Itís not over but explains why itís not been done and dusted quicker. Hope to god he puts football over the personal side on this one 🙏🏻
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Stu82 on June 11, 2019, 04:09:06 PM
The thing about south coast seems odd as Brighton is about 2 hours away, Birmingham 3 hours.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: VinnieChase84 on June 11, 2019, 04:15:39 PM
The thing about south coast seems odd as Brighton is about 2 hours away, Birmingham 3 hours.


They donít want him to move, where as we do
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: dave shelley on June 11, 2019, 04:21:57 PM
I would imagine a lot depends on how he wants his career to continue.  It's been said before on here, does he stay at Bournemouth getting the occasional run out or does he move to Villa where the opportunity is for him to become an international footballer if he maintains his form.  He has choices to make. 

He must have had an inkling of the way his missus was thinking when it became clear that Villa could possibly gain promotion and that there could almost certainly be a bid from us for him.  He certainly gave us the impression that he was in favour of the move.  I have no idea what his decision will be.  I'm beginning to doubt it now.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: chrisw1 on June 11, 2019, 04:24:52 PM
You cant realistically commute from Bournemouth to B'ham on a daily basis.  If his Mrs loves Sandbanks then there's not much Knowle or Solihull can offer to compete with that.  But I'd hope any partner would bite the bullet for a few years for the sake of a top class PL career move.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Sexual Ealing on June 11, 2019, 04:27:13 PM
You cant realistically commute from Bournemouth to B'ham on a daily basis. 
My lovely wife and two great kids do.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: AsTallAsLions on June 11, 2019, 04:28:34 PM
You cant realistically commute from Bournemouth to B'ham on a daily basis. 
My lovely wife and two great kids do.

Awh. Something about this post really warmed the heart. Sorry, carry on. Football n'all.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on June 11, 2019, 04:30:48 PM
You cant realistically commute from Bournemouth to B'ham on a daily basis.

Didn't 'Arry used to do it when he was bankrupting Blues? wouldn't fancy it myself though, far too stressful - maybe that's why Redknapp had a face like a burst space hopper all the time
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on June 11, 2019, 04:31:52 PM
Itís not over but explains why itís not been done and dusted quicker. Hope to god he puts football over the personal side on this one 🙏🏻

Vinnie, do you know if his 'missus' is the same young lady as his business partner?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: VILLA MOLE on June 11, 2019, 04:32:18 PM
You cant realistically commute from Bournemouth to B'ham on a daily basis.  If his Mrs loves Sandbanks then there's not much Knowle or Solihull can offer to compete with that.  But I'd hope any partner would bite the bullet for a few years for the sake of a top class PL career move.


or you compromise he has a gaff in brum and stays there a few  times a week and then commute the rest ?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: LukeJames on June 11, 2019, 04:37:12 PM
Just move to Weston, she still gets the seaside, he gets an easier commute. Sign the papers.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: ChicagoLion on June 11, 2019, 04:37:27 PM
You cant realistically commute from Bournemouth to B'ham on a daily basis.  If his Mrs loves Sandbanks then there's not much Knowle or Solihull can offer to compete with that.  But I'd hope any partner would bite the bullet for a few years for the sake of a top class PL career move.


or you compromise he has a gaff in brum and stays there a few  times a week and then commute the rest ?
Not an easy commute,  over 3 hours each way or 6 to 7 hours in a car.
You can make a case for going home after each match and returning for training Tuesday or Wednesday.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Sexual Ealing on June 11, 2019, 04:39:03 PM
You cant realistically commute from Bournemouth to B'ham on a daily basis. 
My lovely wife and two great kids do.

Awh. Something about this post really warmed the heart. Sorry, carry on. Football n'all.

I would not like anyone to have the false impression that I have a wife or children. Mrs SE and I live over the brush and we're thinking of getting a dog. No children were created during this broadcast.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: ChicagoLion on June 11, 2019, 04:40:59 PM
 :o
You cant realistically commute from Bournemouth to B'ham on a daily basis. 
My lovely wife and two great kids do.
:o :-[

Awh. Something about this post really warmed the heart. Sorry, carry on. Football n'all.

I would not like anyone to have the false impression that I have a wife or children. Mrs SE and I live over the brush and we're thinking of getting a dog. No children were created during this broadcast.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: VinnieChase84 on June 11, 2019, 04:42:53 PM
Itís not over but explains why itís not been done and dusted quicker. Hope to god he puts football over the personal side on this one 🙏🏻

Vinnie, do you know if his 'missus' is the same young lady as his business partner?

No mate, he runs his business with a friend from school
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: AsTallAsLions on June 11, 2019, 04:46:22 PM
You cant realistically commute from Bournemouth to B'ham on a daily basis. 
My lovely wife and two great kids do.

Awh. Something about this post really warmed the heart. Sorry, carry on. Football n'all.

I would not like anyone to have the false impression that I have a wife or children. Mrs SE and I live over the brush and we're thinking of getting a dog. No children were created during this broadcast.

Er. Right so.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Newby on June 11, 2019, 05:00:37 PM
Fuck Brighton, they are doomed next season and will go down as the bottom side.  Mings needs to understand that football ain't forever and a four or five year contract will make him for life, leaving him to concentrate on dogs, kids and his business after he's retired. 
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: ChicagoLion on June 11, 2019, 05:18:12 PM
Any player who chooses Brighton over us is not the right man for us.
I donít think Mingís is that stupid.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Risso on June 11, 2019, 05:20:24 PM
He's got the chance to spend the best years of his career at a truly big club, and cement the already brilliant relationship he has with the fans.  His child is still a baby as well, so not like they're settled at school or anything.  He'll sign permanently very soon, no doubt about it.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 11, 2019, 05:24:43 PM
He'll be rich whether he chooses us, Brighton or any other PL club. Much as I want him to sign I hope he does what he feels is best for him and his family. FWIW I think it's more likely he'll join us than anyone else.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: VinnieChase84 on June 11, 2019, 05:36:36 PM
He's got the chance to spend the best years of his career at a truly big club, and cement the already brilliant relationship he has with the fans.  His child is still a baby as well, so not like they're settled at school or anything.  He'll sign permanently very soon, no doubt about it.
🙏🏻
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Hinckley Dave on June 11, 2019, 05:40:01 PM
Yes, he looked very, very good for us last season and was an inspiring figure. I would love him to sign, and still think he will, but if he doesn't, I'm sure we can find someone else equally as good. We did it before with a Bournemouth reserve who'd hardly played any games past few seasons so I'm confident we could do it again. Having said that...please sign Tyrone!
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on June 11, 2019, 05:41:40 PM
Itís not over but explains why itís not been done and dusted quicker. Hope to god he puts football over the personal side on this one 🙏🏻

Vinnie, do you know if his 'missus' is the same young lady as his business partner?

No mate, he runs his business with a friend from school

Great. I knew about his school friend and from what I've read she's doing great business down there. Much easier to bring his good lady up to Brum.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Gareth on June 11, 2019, 05:45:18 PM
If we have this matching clause then Bournemouth are going to want to create a market to get the best possible price & it would be unreasonable to not expect Premier league interest after the few months Mings had with us.

If I were Bournemouth Iíd be hoping for the highest fee & would be an added bonus if it was a top 10 Premier league side as they will see us (& Brighton) as direct competitors next season.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Big Dick Edwards on June 11, 2019, 05:46:42 PM
If Tyrone chooses Brighton over us, whatever the reason, he's not the man we thought he was and isn't for us.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 11, 2019, 06:00:25 PM
If Tyrone chooses Brighton over us, whatever the reason, he's not the man we thought he was and isn't for us.

If he did that for his family then he's exactly the man I thought he was and he'd have my best wishes.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Hinckley Dave on June 11, 2019, 06:06:43 PM
If Tyrone chooses Brighton over us, whatever the reason, he's not the man we thought he was and isn't for us.

If he did that for his family then he's exactly the man I thought he was and he'd have my best wishes.

Completely agree with that. If he chooses his family's happiness over a few more quid he'd probably get from us then fair play to the chap.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: VinnieChase84 on June 11, 2019, 06:06:56 PM
If Tyrone chooses Brighton over us, whatever the reason, he's not the man we thought he was and isn't for us.

If he did that for his family then he's exactly the man I thought he was and he'd have my best wishes.

This
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: cheltenhamlion on June 11, 2019, 06:07:08 PM
Shit in Birmingham and the Black Country today. Wind and pussing down.
Just raining cats, no dogs?

I wont correct my auto correct on general principle. You could fuck off though.....
Charming! You could get some fucking manners or a sense of self-deprecation.

That went down well. It was supposed to be a gag!
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Bad English on June 11, 2019, 06:08:50 PM
Is that you Jon?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: cheltenhamlion on June 11, 2019, 06:12:45 PM
Is that you Jon?

Apologies if you took offence. I was hoping you knew me well enough by now that it was meant as light hearted whimsy, couched as chronic indignation.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Bad English on June 11, 2019, 06:13:08 PM
Shit in Birmingham and the Black Country today. Wind and pussing down.
Just raining cats, no dogs?

I wont correct my auto correct on general principle. You could fuck off though.....
Charming! You could get some fucking manners or a sense of self-deprecation.

That went down well. It was supposed to be a gag!
No worries. As we were.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Bad English on June 11, 2019, 06:22:37 PM
Is that you Jon?

Apologies if you took offence. I was hoping you knew me well enough by now that it was meant as light hearted whimsy, couched as chronic indignation.
I did think it a bit odd to be getting a fuck off. I apologise too. Lots of manly hugs all round. It's what Tyrone would do.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: four fornicholl on June 11, 2019, 06:45:19 PM
Move the seaside to Bromford. Simple.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Sexual Ealing on June 11, 2019, 07:07:37 PM
Shit in Birmingham and the Black Country today. Wind and pussing down.
Just raining cats, no dogs?

I wont correct my auto correct on general principle. You could fuck off though.....
Charming! You could get some fucking manners or a sense of self-deprecation.

That went down well. It was supposed to be a gag!
No worries. As we were.

You absolute c***s.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: olaftab on June 11, 2019, 07:14:11 PM
Move the seaside to Bromford. Simple.
What has seaside done wrong?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: cheltenhamlion on June 11, 2019, 07:21:23 PM
Shit in Birmingham and the Black Country today. Wind and pussing down.
Just raining cats, no dogs?

I wont correct my auto correct on general principle. You could fuck off though.....
Charming! You could get some fucking manners or a sense of self-deprecation.

That went down well. It was supposed to be a gag!
No worries. As we were.

You absolute c***s.

You still owe me a blow job after Wembley. I bought the offer off Risso for a pint of white beer.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: clash city rocker on June 11, 2019, 07:21:42 PM
Many times my other half has suggested doing things at the weekend and I say I am going to the villa. We have a row and then I go to the villa.... simple.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Sexual Ealing on June 11, 2019, 07:33:42 PM
Shit in Birmingham and the Black Country today. Wind and pussing down.
Just raining cats, no dogs?

I wont correct my auto correct on general principle. You could fuck off though.....
Charming! You could get some fucking manners or a sense of self-deprecation.

That went down well. It was supposed to be a gag!
No worries. As we were.

You absolute c***s.

You still owe me a blow job after Wembley. I bought the offer off Risso for a pint of white beer.

Did you buy the teeth out or teeth in package?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: cheltenhamlion on June 11, 2019, 07:54:25 PM
Shit in Birmingham and the Black Country today. Wind and pussing down.
Just raining cats, no dogs?

I wont correct my auto correct on general principle. You could fuck off though.....
Charming! You could get some fucking manners or a sense of self-deprecation.

That went down well. It was supposed to be a gag!
No worries. As we were.

You absolute c***s.

You still owe me a blow job after Wembley. I bought the offer off Risso for a pint of white beer.

Did you buy the teeth out or teeth in package?

The "mine are shit, can I have yours" package.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Sexual Ealing on June 11, 2019, 08:14:52 PM
Quote

The "mine are shit, can I have yours" package.
[/quote]

I'm not doing anal. Not this time.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Jon Crofts on June 11, 2019, 08:48:14 PM
Is that you Jon?

Donít drag me into this you pair of massive fannies.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Ads on June 11, 2019, 09:03:34 PM
If I can up sticks and move somewhere else, then so can his missus.

Bloody small minded folk. This is England, only the accents change and the tap water.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Jon Crofts on June 11, 2019, 09:08:29 PM
If she wants seaside Borth isnít that far away.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Chap on June 11, 2019, 09:10:37 PM
There's a beach under Spaghetti junction by the river, that should be fine.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: hilts_coolerking on June 11, 2019, 09:12:15 PM
I'm delighted to announce that this thread has been awarded the Glenn Peen Memorial Cup for Queasy Humour.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: eamonn on June 11, 2019, 09:36:37 PM
Is that you Jon?

Donít drag me into this you pair of massive fannies.

I thought he meant Mr Blackwel, him wot woz married to Can I Play Daddy.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Risso on June 11, 2019, 10:56:04 PM
Is that you Jon?

Donít drag me into this you pair of massive fannies.

I thought he meant Mr Blackwel, him wot woz married to Can I Play Daddy.

Who were also very obviously, one and the same person.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: wittonwarrior on June 12, 2019, 05:16:22 AM
Signing this colossal is no joke we need him - a modern day GOD
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: brian green on June 12, 2019, 07:27:29 AM
Perhaps as part of his contract we could throw in the freehold of Brean Sands.  Re name it Sandbanks West.  Dippy Sandra is very happy at Sandbanks South.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: eamonn on June 12, 2019, 08:48:21 AM
Is that you Jon?

Donít drag me into this you pair of massive fannies.

I thought he meant Mr Blackwel, him wot woz married to Can I Play Daddy.

Who were also very obviously, one and the same person.

Obviously. He was attempting to break the fixed quota of H&V female posters in the most scurrilous way.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: cheltenhamlion on June 12, 2019, 08:49:53 AM
Perhaps as part of his contract we could throw in the freehold of Brean Sands.  Re name it Sandbanks West.  Dippy Sandra is very happy at Sandbanks South.

Pontins would be open to an offer!
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: darren woolley on June 14, 2019, 11:33:38 AM
If he signs for us I will personally bring a load of sand put it in his back garden get a donkey and wear a kiss me quick hat while selling sticks of rock if that will make things better.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Risso on June 14, 2019, 11:37:10 AM
Things I'm very impatient for:

1) Tyrone Mings to sign
2) Tyrone Mings to sign
3) Tyrone Mings to sign
4) Tyrone Mings to sign
5) Tickets to be available again
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: spartacuss on June 14, 2019, 12:48:12 PM
To the tune of Bo Diddley's "Bring it to Jerome",  we need an incessant chorus of "Sign with us Tyrone".
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Dazvillain on June 14, 2019, 01:12:35 PM
With what Iíve heard from the south coast , itís very likely heíll stay there somewhere. It may make sense that why weíre being linked to dunk, leaving Tyrone for Brighton .

That all makes sense but I really hope itís bollocks
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: paul_e on June 14, 2019, 01:42:31 PM
There's a photo doing the rounds on twitter of a guy who met him this morning, when he asked him coming to Villa the answer was that he's trying to sort it out. I think he really does want to come to us and will be as upset as we are if it doesn't work out.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Damo70 on June 14, 2019, 02:33:37 PM
Perhaps as part of his contract we could throw in the freehold of Brean Sands.  Re name it Sandbanks West.  Dippy Sandra is very happy at Sandbanks South.

Pontins would be open to an offer!


We took the kids to Pontins at Brean Sands for a week around 2002. Opposite there was a little row of shops with a cafe. We went there every morning and every day my wife ordered the mega breakfast and I had a lovely chicken madras. Yes, chicken madras for breakfast every day for a week.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: Big Dick Edwards on June 14, 2019, 02:35:58 PM
Mings has looked very happy with us for the last six months in which time he must have had some sort of arrangement with his partner. What's he going to do when after a couple of seasons playing with us, he's become the national team's number one centre half at the European Championships and Real Madrid come calling?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: paul_e on June 14, 2019, 02:41:12 PM
Mings has looked very happy with us for the last six months in which time he must have had some sort of arrangement with his partner. What's he going to do when after a couple of seasons playing with us, he's become the national team's number one centre half at the European Championships and Real Madrid come calling?

Hopefully he'll be contemplating whether the step down is worth the extra wages on offer.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mings (confirmed as awesome)
Post by: cheltenhamlion on June 14, 2019, 02:44:38 PM