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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: aldridgeboy on January 25, 2019, 07:01:56 PM

Title: What kit is this ?
Post by: aldridgeboy on January 25, 2019, 07:01:56 PM
Does anyone know the story about this kit ?
It came up in conversation today, with Samir, who is organising the Henson 87 Kit purchases

Clearly the base kit is the 82/ Euopean Cup winning kit. Thatís the easy bit. The badge , however, is on the left of the chest as opposed to the middle ( as in the home version of the Super Cup/ World Club final)

Then thereís the fact that Mita didnít sponsor us until two seasons after the 82 winning kit ( Davenports were our first sponsor in 83)

The shorts are also those that went with the home shirt of the kits that replaced this one.

So why was Sid wearing that one, when there was a new one available ?

It seems to have some commemoration writing under the badge. Was there a one off game ?


(https://i.ibb.co/5x5gTqJ/F7-F72529-93-E6-4-B57-96-DD-5903-F49-F3-A26.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5x5gTqJ)
Title: Re: What kit is this ?
Post by: paul_e on January 25, 2019, 08:56:30 PM
Could it be from the centenary tournament? That's not even a guess, I'm just trying to think of something when we had Mita that could've involved a one off kit.
Title: Re: What kit is this ?
Post by: garyshawsknee on January 25, 2019, 09:02:40 PM
That should always be our away kit.
Title: Re: What kit is this ?
Post by: The Left Side on January 25, 2019, 09:30:12 PM
It is a thing of beauty.
Title: Re: What kit is this ?
Post by: saunders_heroes on January 25, 2019, 09:36:02 PM
Ď84/Ď85 season I think.
Title: Re: What kit is this ?
Post by: Lastfootstamper on January 25, 2019, 09:38:28 PM
Can anyone else see the face in his shorts?
Title: Re: What kit is this ?
Post by: dave shelley on January 25, 2019, 09:41:49 PM
Can anyone else see the face in his shorts?

Now you mention it, yes.
Title: Re: What kit is this ?
Post by: Damo70 on January 25, 2019, 09:44:03 PM
Does anyone know the story about this kit ?
It came up in conversation today, with Samir, who is organising the Henson 87 Kit purchases

Clearly the base kit is the 82/ Euopean Cup winning kit. Thatís the easy bit. The badge , however, is on the left of the chest as opposed to the middle ( as in the home version of the Super Cup/ World Club final)

Then thereís the fact that Mita didnít sponsor us until two seasons after the 82 winning kit ( Davenports were our first sponsor in 83)

The shorts are also those that went with the home shirt of the kits that replaced this one.

So why was Sid wearing that one, when there was a new one available ?

It seems to have some commemoration writing under the badge. Was there a one off game ?


(https://i.ibb.co/5x5gTqJ/F7-F72529-93-E6-4-B57-96-DD-5903-F49-F3-A26.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5x5gTqJ)



That seems to be the 1984-1985 away top with the 1984-1985 home shorts. I think that season we had claret shorts and blue socks at home and white shirts and socks away with blue or white shorts depending on the opposition colours.
Title: Re: What kit is this ?
Post by: Des Little on January 25, 2019, 10:02:13 PM
Thatís the 81-82 away top without question
Title: Re: What kit is this ?
Post by: Virgil Caine on January 25, 2019, 10:07:39 PM
Can anyone else see the face in his shorts?

Itís the Turin Shorts- the face of our Lord. Repent all ye sinners.
Title: Re: What kit is this ?
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 25, 2019, 10:10:18 PM
Can anyone else see the face in his shorts?

Itís the Turin Shorts- the face of our Lord. Repent all ye sinners.

Nah, we wore our home kit for the Juventus away game.
Title: Re: What kit is this ?
Post by: Sexual Ealing on January 25, 2019, 10:13:09 PM
God bless Sid but I'm struggling to see the face on the face.
Title: Re: What kit is this ?
Post by: saunders_heroes on January 25, 2019, 10:18:36 PM
Thatís the 81-82 away top without question

Badge was in the middle on the 81/82 season.
Title: Re: What kit is this ?
Post by: luke95 on January 25, 2019, 10:23:18 PM
Thatís the 81-82 away top without question

Badge was in the middle on the 81/82 season.

& looks like Champions of Europe underneath the badge too so its 82/83 , could it be a European away top ?
Title: Re: What kit is this ?
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 25, 2019, 10:34:44 PM
It's the 1982-83 away shirt because I can't think of any combination of words that would be the size of what's underneath the badge except Champions of Europe, and the Mita logo makes it after January 1984. It's definitely the 1983-84 home shorts. Sid was injured throughout that season. Which makes the entire thing a mystery.

And so we come to what me and the world's saddest man greatest anorak on matters Villa (my mate Greg) reckon:

It's not from a match. It's likely a promo photo featuring the logo of our new sponsor, a player who just happened to be around and training on his own and a few random bits of kit that Doug kept at the back of a cupboard "because they might come in handy one day". 
Title: Re: What kit is this ?
Post by: Dazvillain on January 25, 2019, 10:40:09 PM
Can anyone else see the face in his shorts?
Wow yes, spooky
Title: Re: What kit is this ?
Post by: garyshawsknee on January 25, 2019, 10:51:04 PM
The only shirt they had with the new sponsor, a bygone age, I miss it.
Title: Re: What kit is this ?
Post by: aldridgeboy on January 26, 2019, 01:15:28 AM
It was suggested on Facebook, and it kind of makes sense , that it was for a pre season game. The home kit for the following season had been released, but the away one ( the white with yellow hoops one) hadnít. So although the previous kit ( Davenports ) had gone , the new sponsors needed to be seen that summer, even if the new away kit wasnít ready

The really ridiculous thing was about three hours after posting the original post , I was within 10 ft from the man himself in Lichfield.

But he was with friends, so it didnít seem right to pester him.


Title: Re: What kit is this ?
Post by: willenhall villa on January 26, 2019, 01:16:57 AM
Iíd go along with that as the picture is closely cropped and the setting seems empty behind. Still a lovely looking shirt.

It's the 1982-83 away shirt because I can't think of any combination of words that would be the size of what's underneath the badge except Champions of Europe, and the Mita logo makes it after January 1984. It's definitely the 1983-84 home shorts. Sid was injured throughout that season. Which makes the entire thing a mystery.

And so we come to what me and the world's saddest man greatest anorak on matters Villa (my mate Greg) reckon:

It's not from a match. It's likely a promo photo featuring the logo of our new sponsor, a player who just happened to be around and training on his own and a few random bits of kit that Doug kept at the back of a cupboard "because they might come in handy one day".
Title: Re: What kit is this ?
Post by: London Villan on January 26, 2019, 05:31:14 AM
Itís the away version of the 82/83 european shirt, which may not have ever been worn in a proper match. Didnt Sid break his leg in a pre-season game 83/84? It could be that match.
Title: Re: What kit is this ?
Post by: FrankyH on January 26, 2019, 06:07:55 AM
I knew that was Sid before I clicked and enlarged the image ( I suspect everyone else did as well ) . Not many players have that classy playing style on the ball.
Title: Re: What kit is this ?
Post by: luke95 on January 26, 2019, 09:49:36 AM
Itís the away version of the 82/83 european shirt, which may not have ever been worn in a proper match. Didnt Sid break his leg in a pre-season game 83/84? It could be that match.

Davenports was shirt sponsor 82/83 .
Title: Re: What kit is this ?
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 26, 2019, 10:00:05 AM
It was suggested on Facebook, and it kind of makes sense , that it was for a pre season game. The home kit for the following season had been released, but the away one ( the white with yellow hoops one) hadnít. So although the previous kit ( Davenports ) had gone , the new sponsors needed to be seen that summer, even if the new away kit wasnít ready

The really ridiculous thing was about three hours after posting the original post , I was within 10 ft from the man himself in Lichfield.

But he was with friends, so it didnít seem right to pester him.




The sponsors weren't announced until the following January.
Title: Re: What kit is this ?
Post by: Dave P on January 26, 2019, 10:12:52 AM
The shirt was used in a game against Boca Juniors at the Nou Camp. No idea what this was for but it looks like a Villa hispsters wet dream!


(https://i.ibb.co/2nHpbTq/4-E23-AF93-F226-4357-9155-5904-D629651-F.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2nHpbTq)
Title: Re: What kit is this ?
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 26, 2019, 10:19:17 AM
The shirt was used in a game against Boca Juniors at the Nou Camp. No idea what this was for but it looks like a Villa hispsters wet dream!


(https://i.ibb.co/2nHpbTq/4-E23-AF93-F226-4357-9155-5904-D629651-F.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2nHpbTq)

That was when he broke his leg.
Title: Re: What kit is this ?
Post by: aldridgeboy on January 26, 2019, 01:33:01 PM
Thatís a different shirt in the Nou Camp.
Itís this one I think
(https://i.ibb.co/0CBmFM4/A2216479-4-C3-D-494-A-AFE8-4-DD332321922.jpg) (https://ibb.co/0CBmFM4)
Title: Re: What kit is this ?
Post by: aldridgeboy on January 26, 2019, 01:36:15 PM
Which is a gorgeous shirt !!! They should do a retro one of these !
Title: Re: What kit is this ?
Post by: john e on January 26, 2019, 01:48:05 PM
I knew that was Sid before I clicked and enlarged the image ( I suspect everyone else did as well ) . Not many players have that classy playing style on the ball.

you could also close you eyes and know when Sid had just kicked the ball
it always made a beautiful clean pinging noise that could only have been him
Title: Re: What kit is this ?
Post by: darren woolley on January 29, 2019, 02:48:08 PM
That is a beatuy would love one of them did anybody go to that Boca game?
Title: Re: What kit is this ?
Post by: Drummond on January 29, 2019, 03:25:35 PM
(http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Aston_Villa/images/aston-villa-1982-1983-change.gif)

That's 82-83. Away

(http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Aston_Villa/images/aston-villa-1982-1983-eur.gif)

82-83 Home (European Games, without the sponsor)

(http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Aston_Villa/images/aston-villa-1983-1984-change-1.gif)

That's 83- Feb 84 Away.

(http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Aston_Villa/images/aston-villa-1983-1984-1.gif)

That's 83- Feb 84 Home

(http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Aston_Villa/images/aston-villa-1983-1985-change.gif)

That's Feb - May 84 Away

(http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Aston_Villa/images/aston-villa-1983-1984.gif)

That's Feb - May 84 Home


Given what Dave says about Greg, I'd bow to his knowledge. He once told me that the replica shirt I had on wasn't a good one because the stripe on the top of the collar wasn't the right thickness.
Title: Re: What kit is this ?
Post by: luke95 on January 29, 2019, 07:36:12 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/yyCczpx/20190129-193237.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yyCczpx)

Another top to throw in the mix, anybody shed any light to this one ?
Title: Re: What kit is this ?
Post by: MorrisNielson on January 29, 2019, 11:12:14 PM
Sorry, late to party on this one.
From the look of it, the sid photo is from pre-season training at VP 1984.
There are a few photos from it that made the cover of the programme, including the sid pic:
Sid
(https://i.ibb.co/85R3C8v/sid-84-85.png) (https://ibb.co/85R3C8v)
Walters
(https://i.ibb.co/HGwTG4S/walters-84-85.png) (https://ibb.co/HGwTG4S)
Title: Re: What kit is this ?
Post by: MorrisNielson on January 29, 2019, 11:15:14 PM
Another top to throw in the mix, anybody shed any light to this one ?
Its from the 1984-85 season, just without the Mita logo. Here's Mortimer wearing it in 85:
(https://i.ibb.co/GR1tRqG/mortimer-84-85.png) (https://ibb.co/GR1tRqG)
Title: Re: What kit is this ?
Post by: cdbullyweefan on January 30, 2019, 07:56:12 AM
Why were we playing Boca Juniors at Barcelona and how did we get on?
Title: Re: What kit is this ?
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 30, 2019, 02:16:55 PM
Lost 2-0 and it was in this pre-season competition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joan_Gamper_Trophy
Title: Re: What kit is this ?
Post by: cdbullyweefan on January 30, 2019, 02:27:25 PM
Cheers, have found it now. We lost to Bayern in the semis, Boca lost 9-1 to Barca in their first game.

https://www.zerozero.pt/edition.php?id_edicao=23568
Title: Re: What kit is this ?
Post by: Dr Butler on January 30, 2019, 02:29:44 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/yyCczpx/20190129-193237.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yyCczpx)

Another top to throw in the mix, anybody shed any light to this one ?

Blimey I had one of those, thanks for posting the picture

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