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Title: Tennis 2019
Post by: Villa Lew on January 11, 2019, 10:30:33 AM
Sad but not unexpected news, Andy Murray announces he will be retiring after Wimbledon or it could even be after next week's Australian Open.

Had surgery on his hip 12 months ago and has only played 14 matches since returning to the court in June.

Britain's greatest ever tennis player and one of Britain's greatest sportsmen. Winning Wimbledon twice was brilliant, but the most thrilling match he played in, I reckon was when he won his first slam at the US Open in 2012, beating Djokovic in 5 sets. Remember stopping up until the early hours, the match lasted nearly 5 hours.

With Federer, Nadal and Djokovic, he played in the greatest era the men's game as ever known and it's pretty certain if he had played at a different time he would have won many more majors.

Said not to be very popular with the British public, but he's the only person to win 3 Sports Personality of the Year awards, so he can't be that unpopular.




Title: Re: Tennis 2019
Post by: SoccerHQ on January 11, 2019, 10:34:55 AM
Easily one of the best Sports people produced by Britain in last 50 years.
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Post by: PGW on January 11, 2019, 10:38:05 AM
I watched his very emotional press conference earlier and it was difficult to not shed a tear along with him.
He is without doubt the greatest British player of all time. I really hope he can get through Aussie Open and somehow manages to get his
wish and bow out at Wimbledon....odds very much against i think.
Then i just hope he stays involved in British tennis and bring through the next generation of 'Andy's' and 'Andreas' for that matter.
He singlehandedly brough British Tennis into the 21st Century.
Wish him nothing but the best.
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Post by: Nev on January 11, 2019, 11:52:49 AM
He achieved something I thought would never be done in my lifetime when he won Wimbledon, I can remember where I was when he did as well. In the Forge Tavern Digbeth, surrounded by Small Heath "memorabilia". Yuk. It didn't spoil the moment though and he's one of the greatest sportsmen I have ever seen, the fact that he always seemed to wind up all those Little Englanders used to delight me as well.

Anyway, he needn't worry about retiring, he's nailed on for a TV chat show I would've thought.

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Post by: Damo70 on January 11, 2019, 12:23:23 PM
He suffered like Steve Davis with Britain often preferring a plucky underdog over a true winner. He often seemed to get less support than the less talented Tim Henman, even though Henman himself wasn't exactly Mr Charisma. I watched all of his grand slam wins and his olympics victory and his self deprecation and dry humour  was often misinterpreted.
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Post by: Villafirst on January 11, 2019, 12:26:55 PM
Very sad news indeed. I think 2016 really took it out him....he played an incredible amount of matches to reach World Number One. That probably did most of the damage. A great career sadly coming to an end too soon.
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Post by: usav on January 11, 2019, 01:08:26 PM
Agreed with everything said above, sad day for him.
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Post by: tomd2103 on January 11, 2019, 02:02:25 PM
Easily one of the best Sports people produced by Britain in last 50 years.

Yep, would go along with that.  Probably a bit unlucky to play in the same era as three all-time greats, but still managed to win a number of major titles.  Along with him being the first British player to win Wimbledon in decades, his performances in GB's run to winning the Davis Cup will be long remembered.   
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Post by: cdbullyweefan on January 11, 2019, 03:03:31 PM
And two gold medals, plus a silver. Which makes him the equal most succesful male tennis Olympian ever. He's outright first in the modern era.
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Post by: Richard E on January 11, 2019, 03:11:44 PM
Alan ĎIíve cried myself to sleep every night since May 1981í Brazil has criticised Andy Murray, saying ĎI donít do blubbing.í Tw*t.
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Post by: LeeB on January 11, 2019, 06:29:14 PM
Alan ĎIíve cried myself to sleep every night since May 1981í Brazil has criticised Andy Murray, saying ĎI donít do blubbing.í Tw*t.

He cries every afternoon when Greggs closes, the fat c***.
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Post by: Villan For Life on January 11, 2019, 06:39:32 PM
I never really warmed to Andy Murray but watching his press conference was uncomfortable viewing. His achievements were fantastic though.

On Radio 2 at lunchtime today they were asking if he was Britainís best ever sportsman - I donít think he is but some do - however they did ask why he didnít have have a hip replacement a year ago to see if he could come back from it. Interesting theory.
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Post by: Tayls_7 on January 11, 2019, 06:51:22 PM
I never really warmed to Andy Murray but watching his press conference was uncomfortable viewing. His achievements were fantastic though.

On Radio 2 at lunchtime today they were asking if he was Britainís best ever sportsman - I donít think he is but some do - however they did ask why he didnít have have a hip replacement a year ago to see if he could come back from it. Interesting theory.

Great player, fabulous competitor and thoroughly decent person. It's a shame he couldn't end as he'd like.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 11, 2019, 07:09:21 PM
Fantastic player and apart from his "ABE" 'bantz' that time with Henman I never got why people didn't like him. Nowhere near our greatest ever sportsmen though, especially as imo he's probably not even the best ever British tennis player.
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Post by: SoccerHQ on January 11, 2019, 08:57:09 PM
Fantastic player and apart from his "ABE" 'bantz' that time with Henman I never got why people didn't like him. Nowhere near our greatest ever sportsmen though, especially as imo he's probably not even the best ever British tennis player.

Always difficult to compare amateur and professional eras.

Considering Fred Perry success was in 1930s we're not far off a century in terms of length of time so Murray being best tennis player in last 80 years is decent chunk of time.
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Post by: Flamingo Lane on January 11, 2019, 10:16:05 PM
I'm not a huge tennis fan, but Murray has been a great sportsman, and man.  To have lived as a child through the unimaginable horror of Dunblane, and to have achieved what he has, in the way that he has, humble, determined, rounded and grounded, congratulations.
Title: Re: Tennis 2019
Post by: Villa Lew on January 20, 2019, 12:19:57 PM
Federer out beaten in 4 sets by Stefanos Tsitsipas a 20 year old Greek. Remember at Wimbledon last year the pundits were saying he looks like a future top player. Changing of the guard?
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Post by: Richard on January 20, 2019, 07:02:50 PM
Federer out beaten in 4 sets by Stefanos Tsitsipas a 20 year old Greek. Remember at Wimbledon last year the pundits were saying he looks like a future top player. Changing of the guard?

Like watching a young Bjorn Bork - very impressive !
Title: Re: Tennis 2019
Post by: Villa Lew on January 27, 2019, 11:38:27 AM
I was expecting a 5 setter, but Djokovic thrashes Nadal 6-3 6-2 6-3. Only 9 force errors from Novak against 29 from Rafa. He's now got 3 grand slams in a row and 15 in total, at the age of 31 must have a very good chance of ending up with more slams than Federer, 37, whose currently on 20.
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Post by: cdbullyweefan on January 27, 2019, 01:32:47 PM
Oh, the Mallorca-born Real Madrid supporting, bum-picking grunting Francoite lost? That's a shame.
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Post by: usav on January 28, 2019, 12:41:03 PM
I was expecting a 5 setter, but Djokovic thrashes Nadal 6-3 6-2 6-3. Only 9 force errors from Novak against 29 from Rafa. He's now got 3 grand slams in a row and 15 in total, at the age of 31 must have a very good chance of ending up with more slams than Federer, 37, whose currently on 20.

Which when you think about it is incredible.   As dominant as Federer appears to have been, he has very nearly been and quite possibly could be matched by these two.   Now granted, without Paris, I don't think Nadal would be in the conversation, however, he has proven he can win on other surfaces while Federer and Novak have struggled on clay.
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Post by: luke:lamf on January 28, 2019, 12:59:03 PM
That's a little unfair on Federer and Djokovic - Federer is joint 3rd on the all-time list of French Open final appearances (with 5) and Djokovic joint 7th (with 4). It's just that they have come up against the single most dominant player on any given surface when Nadal gets on clay. Nadal has only ever lost 2 games at the French, in 13 years.

Hypothetically - my understanding is that the Wimbledon grass has been much slowed down over the years and thus it is quite possible that neither Nadal nor Djokovic could have touched Federer at Wimbledon. Had this been different, Federer could have been looking at 23/24 Slams rather than "just" 20...
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Post by: usav on January 28, 2019, 01:26:44 PM
Yeah, that probably sounded unduly harsh.   Testament to how utterly dominant Nadal is on clay.
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Post by: hilts_coolerking on June 07, 2019, 11:58:35 AM
Epic choke from Jo Konta.  Set points in both sets and loses 0-2.
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Post by: UK Redsox on June 07, 2019, 05:57:12 PM
Epic choke from Jo Konta.  Set points in both sets and loses 0-2.

With all the favourites already out, I doubt that she'll get a better chance to with a Grand Slam title
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Post by: dave.woodhall on June 10, 2019, 11:05:13 AM
Bit of a scoop for Birmingham.

http://thebirminghampress.com/2019/06/venus-williams-to-pay-edgbaston-tournament/
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Post by: paul_e on July 01, 2019, 08:31:11 PM
Not much of a tennis fan but seeing a 15 year old beat Venus Williams (and then seem to apologise for it when they shake hands) is one of my new favourite things.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/48828120
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Post by: thick_mike on July 01, 2019, 08:32:15 PM
Not much of a tennis fan but seeing a 15 year old beat Venus Williams (and then seem to apologise for it when they shake hands) is one of my new favourite things.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/48828120

It was fabulous, brought a lump to my throat.
Title: Re: Tennis 2019
Post by: Villa Lew on July 02, 2019, 08:38:57 AM
Amazingly no Brits knocked out on Day 1.
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Post by: Holte132 on July 02, 2019, 12:31:20 PM
Watching Dan Evans winning - he's a Villa fan apparently.
Title: Re: Tennis 2019
Post by: Villa Lew on July 02, 2019, 01:22:06 PM
Great news Dan The Villa Man through in 3 straight sets.
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Post by: UK Redsox on July 02, 2019, 01:23:43 PM
I visited the International Tennis Hall of Fame in Newport, Rhode Island a few days ago.

Well worth a visit
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Post by: aev on July 02, 2019, 07:53:36 PM
Tomic.

What a bellend.
Title: Re: Tennis 2019
Post by: Villa Lew on July 03, 2019, 09:33:03 AM
Agree I saw some of his match, never seen anything like it, he was making absolutely no effort at all. Should be docked his £45k appearance money.
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Post by: Villa Lew on July 04, 2019, 04:48:16 PM
Long way to go but Konta looks good so far, service very impressive. The Villa man also through, well done Dan.
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Post by: garyshawsknee on July 04, 2019, 05:53:33 PM
That Kyrgios really is a massive helmet.
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Post by: KRS on July 04, 2019, 05:55:17 PM
Once a bell end...always a bell end.
Title: Re: Tennis 2019
Post by: Villa Lew on July 05, 2019, 12:09:01 PM
Agree I saw some of his match, never seen anything like it, he was making absolutely no effort at all. Should be docked his £45k appearance money.
He has been docked £45k well done Wimbledon.
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Post by: usav on July 05, 2019, 11:55:00 PM
Loving the Coco story so far, so mature and composed, until she won and was acting like a kid again jumping around.  So great to see.
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Post by: KRS on July 06, 2019, 12:22:15 AM
Enjoyed watching Coco make her come back from the edge of defeat today. She has a highly successful and wealthy lifestyle ahead of her.
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Post by: Villa Lew on July 06, 2019, 04:43:19 PM
Konta looked as if she was going out in the 2nd set, but that was a superb comeback.
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Post by: hilts_coolerking on July 06, 2019, 04:44:54 PM
Yep she did really well.  It's when she's leading that she gets a bit flaky.
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Post by: spk on July 06, 2019, 05:58:40 PM
Our man Dan looking good,on his way to a 2nd set .
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Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on July 06, 2019, 08:14:59 PM
Our man Dan looking good,on his way to a 2nd set .

Cracking game so far. The commentator mentioned he was a Villa fan earlier too.
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Post by: andyh on July 06, 2019, 08:17:57 PM
Our man Dan looking good,on his way to a 2nd set .

Cracking game so far. The commentator mentioned he was a Villa fan earlier too.
Yes, itís a great game.
I love it when we get a namecheck like that, and you can tell itís a proper commentator because he said Dan Ďsupports The Villaí.
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Post by: Bren'd on July 07, 2019, 11:45:35 AM
Shame he didnít pull it off but it was a good and exciting match. Will look out for him in the future now.
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Post by: Villa Lew on July 08, 2019, 06:03:24 PM
Great effort again from Konta coming back from a set down to beat a top player, although did get a bit nervy in the last few games.
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Post by: Villa Lew on July 09, 2019, 05:43:39 PM
Very disappointing performance from Konta, but fair play to Strycova, unseeded and never reached a semi of a Major, that was a superb performance.
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Post by: hilts_coolerking on July 09, 2019, 05:49:24 PM
I watched the tail end of the second set and I don't think I saw Konta win a point.  She was awful.
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Post by: Villa Lew on July 10, 2019, 02:46:29 PM
On BBC2 they are moving from a Men's singles quarter final, only in the 2nd set on number 1 court to no 2 court, for a 3rd round mixed doubles match. Unbelievable BBC.
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Post by: Damo70 on July 10, 2019, 02:59:22 PM
On BBC2 they are moving from a Men's singles quarter final, only in the 2nd set on number 1 court to no 2 court, for a 3rd round mixed doubles match. Unbelievable BBC.


Eurosport were driving me up the wall in the early games of the African Nations Cup by joining the action twenty or thirty minutes into games to show the end of cycling and motor cycling races.
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Post by: Nev on July 10, 2019, 06:11:38 PM
I'm really struggling this year, little challenge to those dominant colourless players in the Mens game, the Ladies is slightly better but Konta's hissy reaction to the press showed a weak mental side, the BBC have been well below par as referenced above, Beckers commentary drives me mad and it's about time they put the fuckin towels on a pole or table at the side of the court and the players can fuckin well fetch them themselves.
The highlights were the 15 year old doing well and the big Aussie acting the goat.
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Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 10, 2019, 06:50:35 PM
Ooh Federer, Djokovic and Nadal all through to the semis.

What I love about men's tennis is how exciting and unpredictable it is.
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Post by: Villa Lew on July 11, 2019, 02:24:42 PM
Just turned over from the cricket to see Halep win her semi, would like to see her win it.
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Post by: ADVILLAFAN on July 12, 2019, 06:47:30 PM
Mon e Federer, beat the arse picker
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Post by: manic-road on July 12, 2019, 07:34:29 PM
As a nipper I loved watching the likes of Connors, Borg and Mac but Roger Federer is on another level altogether. Almost 38 and still playing the most sublime tennis you will ever see.
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Post by: Rudy65 on July 12, 2019, 07:35:54 PM
As a nipper I loved watching the likes of Connors, Borg and Mac but Roger Federer is on another level altogether. Almost 38 and still playing the most sublime tennis you will ever see.

Saw him live at Wimbledon 2 years ago and he was superb. Looks effortless
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Post by: Rudy65 on July 12, 2019, 07:37:34 PM
As a nipper I loved watching the likes of Connors, Borg and Mac but Roger Federer is on another level altogether. Almost 38 and still playing the most sublime tennis you will ever see.

Connors was my fave. Great player with a real swagger about him
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Post by: manic-road on July 12, 2019, 07:47:39 PM
As a nipper I loved watching the likes of Connors, Borg and Mac but Roger Federer is on another level altogether. Almost 38 and still playing the most sublime tennis you will ever see.

Connors was my fave. Great player with a real swagger about him
I liked Mac because you never knew when he was going to explode. An entertainer but for me Federer is the greatest, oozes class.
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Post by: hilts_coolerking on July 12, 2019, 09:16:09 PM
Those top three guys are so good that I can't help but think men's tennis is going to enter a kind of dark ages when they've all retired.
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Post by: Nev on July 12, 2019, 09:35:06 PM
I still find it impossible to enjoy watching Federer. I can appreciate and admire the skill but he is like a machine, barely breaking sweat, showing little emotion yet easing to victory.
Although true to the seedings, this has been the poorest tournament for years. Predictable, straightforward and almost technically perfect in both codes. Great tennis, poor entertainment.
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Post by: taylorsworkrate on July 12, 2019, 11:37:59 PM
I've enjoyed watching Federer over the years far far more than Nadal and Djokovic.

His style has always been so graceful.
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Post by: Monty on July 13, 2019, 12:00:26 AM
Those top three guys are so good that I can't help but think men's tennis is going to enter a kind of dark ages when they've all retired.

It's mental. What really struck me today is how diminished they all are compared to their primes, but they're *still* this much better than everyone else. It just goes to show how superior they were to everyone back when they were still at their best, and when there were still a few other players around who had the experience of closing out a slam. It's really crazy.
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Post by: hilts_coolerking on July 13, 2019, 12:13:06 AM
Those top three guys are so good that I can't help but think men's tennis is going to enter a kind of dark ages when they've all retired.

It's mental. What really struck me today is how diminished they all are compared to their primes, but they're *still* this much better than everyone else. It just goes to show how superior they were to everyone back when they were still at their best, and when there were still a few other players around who had the experience of closing out a slam. It's really crazy.
It is.  It also makes you realise what an achievement it was for Murray and Wawrinka to win three slams each in this era.
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Post by: Monty on July 13, 2019, 12:32:12 AM
Yep, in any other era they're each looking at 5-10, maybe even 12.
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Post by: hilts_coolerking on July 13, 2019, 03:22:31 PM
Wow.  That was one of the best performances I've ever seen from a female player.  Halep was getting the ball back in play like Djokovic.
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Post by: Villa Lew on July 13, 2019, 03:27:10 PM
Serena Williams made a lot of unforced errors, but that was brilliant from Simona Halep. Great stuff
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Post by: Flamingo Lane on July 13, 2019, 10:56:24 PM
Wow.  That was one of the best performances I've ever seen from a female player.  Halep was getting the ball back in play like Djokovic.

Indeed.  And even me, an old cynic, could not be anything but moved by the gloriously gracious, eloquent and humble way in which she handled the on-court interview in the immediate aftermath of her victory.
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Post by: Villa Lew on July 14, 2019, 07:18:48 PM
While waiting for New Zealand to bat, just checked Djokovic won 13-12 in 5th set tie break.
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Post by: thick_mike on July 14, 2019, 08:58:29 PM
From the scores, it looked like an amazing final...shame it was overshadowed by the cricket.
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Post by: Villa Lew on August 30, 2019, 06:56:02 PM
No major shock for Dan the Villa man, beaten in 3 sets by Federer.
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Post by: Villa Lew on September 07, 2019, 11:05:12 PM
Wow 19 year old Bianca Andreescu wins the US Open, beating Serena Williams 6-3, 7-5. Williams now lost last 4 grand slam finals.
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Post by: Meanwood Villa on September 07, 2019, 11:05:23 PM
Serena loses another final having come back from 5-1 down in the second set to level it up.

She's now lost her last four grand slam finals and six out of her last eight, having only lost four of her first 25. Starting to wonder if she'll ever break the homophobe Margaret Court's record. 
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Post by: Villa Lew on September 09, 2019, 08:50:43 AM
Nadal wins the US Open and his 19th Grand Slam, only 1 behind Federer now. It's good to see a new kid on the block in the Russian 23 year old Daniil Medvedev, who took him to 5 sets. Hopefully he will be able to break the 'Top 3's  stranglehold on the majors. No one born in the 1990's has won a grand slam, which is an amazing stat.
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Post by: hilts_coolerking on September 09, 2019, 10:10:36 AM
That men's final was sensational.  Medvedev looks like a glue sniffer who just wandered in from the car park but he's an absolute Trojan.