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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: kippaxvilla2 on November 25, 2018, 04:23:38 PM

Title: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on November 25, 2018, 04:23:38 PM
Look at the amount of moral losses we have suffered at the hands of our neighbours over the years.  It’s embarrassing.

Today for example: They went 2-0 up but the ref disallowed it because it hit the post.

It was never a penalty.  Until the ref blew his whistle.

The game should never have even been played such was the loss of Jota before the game.

Grealish was very lucky to still be on the pitch the amount of times he was fouled.

And let’s not forget those other times we’ve morally lost to them.  The Gabby goal that should never have happened so crap were we.  The Jota miss last season was an appalling refereeing decision not to allow give a goal based on effort. 

We should be ashamed of ourselves really.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: LukeJames on November 25, 2018, 04:48:42 PM
If point were dished out for moral victorys, those fuckers would be challenging Man City for the Prem.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on November 25, 2018, 04:52:22 PM
Villa pen that should have been a free kick to us

Harding great tackle, foul and yellow

Grealish 2 footed on Colin, foul for them

Hutton 2 footed, bottled the sec
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: tomd2103 on November 25, 2018, 04:53:08 PM
By Friday they will be talking like they actually won the game.  You can never beat Blues, only score more goals than them. 
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on November 25, 2018, 04:54:05 PM
Villa pen that should have been a free kick to us

Harding great tackle, foul and yellow

Grealish 2 footed on Colin, foul for them

Hutton 2 footed, bottled the sec

Needless to say that’s a quote from another site.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 25, 2018, 04:56:30 PM
Fuck 'em.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Deano's Mullet on November 25, 2018, 04:56:45 PM
Never mind the challenges on our lot most of the first half. They reminded me a bit of Bruce's Blues team up to our equaliser.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on November 25, 2018, 05:00:06 PM
They lived up to their 'Battling Blues/Dirty Fuckers' moniker.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Pvb1968 on November 25, 2018, 05:15:30 PM
 They gave it everything and lost, we were shit and won. We are on another plane to them but we have to stand up and be counted, stop pretending to be a big club and act like one. Ie win the next 6 games.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on November 25, 2018, 05:15:53 PM
Cheating vile bastards we are. Apparently we had more players on the pitch, fiddled the result by blatantly scoring more goals, and it was all possible because we have been playing better than them coming into the game.



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bluer than blues
16:25, Sun 25 Nov
 Mr Blue Sky
We've just played them, I think we can talk about them as a consequence.

For me, there were positives to take from it. Looking at the team sheet before the game, I thought we'd get absolutely butchered. We had a midfield that had never played together, yet we scored two goals and looked competitive until that awful fourth. This game was lost on narrow margins, despite the scoreline. Che scores and we win. Had we had a full starting 11, we would have won. I honestly believe that.

There are wakeup calls for both Morro and Dean, and obviously Harding on the left didnt work. I will put my hands up and say that whilst Camp is nowhere near the horror show some people make out, he is a level or two below the rest of our first eleven and when we sort out this mess with the EFL, his has to be the first position replaced.

In terms of the vile. Their defence is laughable. It was worse than ours today. The only reason they got 4 and we got 2 is that they have a much better attack - they can bring Bolasie off the bench.

We were unlucky that they hit a purple patch coming into this at the same time that we've gone off the boil but it won't last. Theyve got a very tough month ahead and December will be the acid test. I think they'll get the playoffs again but nothing more.

As for us, anything would be possible if could even sign a couple of players. We're stuck until this situation gets sorted. We won't be in another relegation battle, which for me is a blessing.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Damo70 on November 25, 2018, 05:50:59 PM
By Friday they will be talking like they actually won the game.  You can never beat Blues, only score more goals than them.

By Friday??? You can bet your life they were all discussing another moral victory over us as soon as they were in the pub after the game.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Richard E on November 25, 2018, 05:52:51 PM
Presumably they didn't see the foul on Nyland for the opening goal.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on November 25, 2018, 05:56:49 PM
Another candidate.

Agree yes but still think our first 11 and that would've been a different game today. Certainly don't think our first 11 concedes 4 after taking the lead.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 25, 2018, 05:57:38 PM
Apart from Jota who were they missing?
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Richard E on November 25, 2018, 06:01:09 PM
Apart from Jota who were they missing?

Anybody who can play football competently.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Damo70 on November 25, 2018, 06:03:51 PM
Apart from Jota who were they missing?

Probably about four players we have never heard of and who they have never actually rated but as an excuse for todays defeat will all of a sudden be classed as their best players.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 25, 2018, 06:04:38 PM
Apart from Jota who were they missing?

Francis, Gallagher, Burns and Latchford.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 25, 2018, 06:06:00 PM
Actually they were missing Gary Gardner as well.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on November 25, 2018, 06:10:05 PM
Another one here. 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AINGp5wO3_4
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on November 25, 2018, 06:11:34 PM
Apart from Jota who were they missing?

Francis, Gallagher, Burns and Latchford.

Gil Merrick would never have let in 4 against the vile.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 25, 2018, 06:22:12 PM
Another one here. 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AINGp5wO3_4

Happy birthday Craig xx
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 25, 2018, 06:23:33 PM
Don't forget they won THE trophy today. The one you get for claiming to have more fans drinking in pubs in town.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Damo70 on November 25, 2018, 06:24:07 PM
Another one here. 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AINGp5wO3_4



He spends half of the interview, which is all about them winning a game to stay up banging on about the vile and a game against us two weeks previously and then moaning about us giving it the big 'un after said game. Then says "we don't care what anyone else says about us" when clearly he cared enough to bring it up a couple of weeks later when he should have just been celebrating their last day survival.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Rigadon on November 25, 2018, 06:29:51 PM
Another one here. 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AINGp5wO3_4

Happy birthday Craig xx

Yes.  Enjoy your salty, tear stained birthday now, y'hear. 
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: tomd2103 on November 25, 2018, 06:30:49 PM
By Friday they will be talking like they actually won the game.  You can never beat Blues, only score more goals than them.

By Friday??? You can bet your life they were all discussing another moral victory over us as soon as they were in the pub after the game.

There's a clear pattern that emerges through the week after we have beaten them.  First few days - "we might have won if such and such had / hadn't happened" (even after they have conceded four goals). By midweek it's "we definitely would have won if such and such had / hadn't happened".  By the end of the week it has become "everyone knows we would have won if such and such had / hadn't happened.  Villa got the three points, but we won really so we can't really take it as a loss".

Their level of performance gets better through the week as well.  After the game you do get a few of them admitting that the better team won, but by the end of the week every single one of them claims they were by far the better side and played brilliantly.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: tomd2103 on November 25, 2018, 06:36:44 PM
Another one here. 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AINGp5wO3_4

Happy birthday Craig xx

Yes.  Enjoy your salty, tear stained birthday now, y'hear.

He looks a really poor player now, who only really offers anything at set pieces.  Got hooked as well which is always a nice moment!
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Ad@m on November 25, 2018, 06:39:20 PM
It's not just games against us. If you listen to the noses that ring up WM, all season they've made out as if they're 10 points clear at the top, despite barely winning 1 in every 4.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: jwarry on November 25, 2018, 06:40:18 PM
Cheating vile bastards we are. Apparently we had more players on the pitch, fiddled the result by blatantly scoring more goals, and it was all possible because we have been playing better than them coming into the game.



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bluer than blues
16:25, Sun 25 Nov
 Mr Blue Sky
We've just played them, I think we can talk about them as a consequence.

For me, there were positives to take from it. Looking at the team sheet before the game, I thought we'd get absolutely butchered. We had a midfield that had never played together, yet we scored two goals and looked competitive until that awful fourth. This game was lost on narrow margins, despite the scoreline. Che scores and we win. Had we had a full starting 11, we would have won. I honestly believe that.

There are wakeup calls for both Morro and Dean, and obviously Harding on the left didnt work. I will put my hands up and say that whilst Camp is nowhere near the horror show some people make out, he is a level or two below the rest of our first eleven and when we sort out this mess with the EFL, his has to be the first position replaced.

In terms of the vile. Their defence is laughable. It was worse than ours today. The only reason they got 4 and we got 2 is that they have a much better attack - they can bring Bolasie off the bench.

We were unlucky that they hit a purple patch coming into this at the same time that we've gone off the boil but it won't last. Theyve got a very tough month ahead and December will be the acid test. I think they'll get the playoffs again but nothing more.

As for us, anything would be possible if could even sign a couple of players. We're stuck until this situation gets sorted. We won't be in another relegation battle, which for me is a blessing.

To be fair that’s pretty coherent even if we don’t agree.  Our defence is laughable but it’s not of Dean’s making and January is only 5 weeks away
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: maidstonevillain on November 25, 2018, 06:40:58 PM
Cheating vile bastards we are. Apparently we had more players on the pitch, fiddled the result by blatantly scoring more goals, and it was all possible because we have been playing better than them coming into the game.



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bluer than blues
16:25, Sun 25 Nov
 Mr Blue Sky
We've just played them, I think we can talk about them as a consequence.

For me, there were positives to take from it. Looking at the team sheet before the game, I thought we'd get absolutely butchered. We had a midfield that had never played together, yet we scored two goals and looked competitive until that awful fourth. This game was lost on narrow margins, despite the scoreline. Che scores and we win. Had we had a full starting 11, we would have won. I honestly believe that.

There are wakeup calls for both Morro and Dean, and obviously Harding on the left didnt work. I will put my hands up and say that whilst Camp is nowhere near the horror show some people make out, he is a level or two below the rest of our first eleven and when we sort out this mess with the EFL, his has to be the first position replaced.

In terms of the vile. Their defence is laughable. It was worse than ours today. The only reason they got 4 and we got 2 is that they have a much better attack - they can bring Bolasie off the bench.

We were unlucky that they hit a purple patch coming into this at the same time that we've gone off the boil but it won't last. Theyve got a very tough month ahead and December will be the acid test. I think they'll get the playoffs again but nothing more.

As for us, anything would be possible if could even sign a couple of players. We're stuck until this situation gets sorted. We won't be in another relegation battle, which for me is a blessing.
Actually, that is a reasonably balanced assessment.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Rigadon on November 25, 2018, 06:41:07 PM
His legs have gone, as evidenced by the fact that he couldn't take Hutton out when he walked through the entire Blues team, on his way into folklore. 
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on November 25, 2018, 06:54:18 PM
Don't forget they won THE trophy today. The one you get for claiming to have more fans drinking in pubs in town.

Which, I can assure you as I sit here quietly in The Sun on The Hill is not the case.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on November 25, 2018, 06:59:39 PM
I’ve found another.

We did compete.
If Monk had their budget we’d have won
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Lastfootstamper on November 25, 2018, 07:07:35 PM
Don't forget they won THE trophy today. The one you get for claiming to have more fans drinking in pubs in town.

Which, I can assure you as I sit here quietly in The Sun on The Hill is not the case.

The way I see it is, look around. See anyone with the bollocks on brazen display (bracelet, chain, badge, neck tattoo, phone cover); blose.

Eeeeeeeeveryone else; Villa.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 25, 2018, 07:10:36 PM
Everyone you see in town not wearing football colours today is a B-Loser fact!
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: andrew08 on November 25, 2018, 07:17:18 PM
They certainly stood out at the game today. They were easy to spot, they were the ones in Peaky caps taking selfies in front of the Holte End and the sign on the side of the Trinity Road stand.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: DesBremner on November 25, 2018, 07:42:56 PM
By Friday they will be talking like they actually won the game.  You can never beat Blues, only score more goals than them.

By Friday??? You can bet your life they were all discussing another moral victory over us as soon as they were in the pub after the game.

There's a clear pattern that emerges through the week after we have beaten them.  First few days - "we might have won if such and such had / hadn't happened" (even after they have conceded four goals). By midweek it's "we definitely would have won if such and such had / hadn't happened".  By the end of the week it has become "everyone knows we would have won if such and such had / hadn't happened.  Villa got the three points, but we won really so we can't really take it as a loss".

Their level of performance gets better through the week as well.  After the game you do get a few of them admitting that the better team won, but by the end of the week every single one of them claims they were by far the better side and played brilliantly.

But we won 6 corners to 3   
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: London Villan on November 25, 2018, 07:43:17 PM
There were a couple in the Trinity boxes. Looked like there was a bit of a discussion there.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Fasth56 on November 25, 2018, 07:54:05 PM
Evidently a journalist from sky by the name of Skudder has tweeted that only having 2000 fans there is a massive disadvantage and having more would have given them a better chance. he also thinks we should only get 5% of their current 29000 capacity for the away game. That way we will be overawed by 23000 baying neanderthals.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on November 25, 2018, 07:58:46 PM
Chris Skudder lifelong Bluenose to be fair.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: LukeJames on November 25, 2018, 07:59:44 PM
Another one here. 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AINGp5wO3_4

How the fuck have I only just seen that. That is superb!
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: exiled on the wirral! on November 25, 2018, 08:04:10 PM
Another one here. 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AINGp5wO3_4

Happy birthday Craig xx

Yes.  Enjoy your salty, tear stained birthday now, y'hear.

He looks a really poor player now, who only really offers anything at set pieces.  Got hooked as well which is always a nice moment!
Franksie on WM said Gardner was man of the match!!
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 25, 2018, 08:05:37 PM
You misheard, he said "neanderthal man of the match".
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: VILLA MOLE on November 25, 2018, 08:05:51 PM
Another one here. 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AINGp5wO3_4

How the fuck have I only just seen that. That is superb!


Wow that was some lemon sucking going on there
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: RichardBatchelor on November 25, 2018, 08:10:55 PM
“The only reason they got 4 and we got 2 is that they have a much better attack”

Isn’t that usually why any team beats another 4-2?

Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: tomd2103 on November 25, 2018, 08:36:49 PM
“The only reason they got 4 and we got 2 is that they have a much better attack”

Isn’t that usually why any team beats another 4-2?

That's the thing.  It is worth all their nonsense in the build up to the game just to be able to sit back after another victory and read and listen to stuff like that. 
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 25, 2018, 08:42:20 PM
They always come out with shit like we only won because we have better players, we only have better players because we spend more money.

It ay fair.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: LeeB on November 25, 2018, 08:45:35 PM
Maybe if their millions of fans got of their arses and went down and actually supported them they could spend some money too.

It's kind of how this shit generally works.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 25, 2018, 09:20:04 PM
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As an away fan at no time today did I feel intimidated inside or outside the ground I’m pretty sure this isn’t the case when they visit St. Andrews
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: LeeB on November 25, 2018, 09:26:40 PM
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As an away fan at no time today did I feel intimidated inside or outside the ground I’m pretty sure this isn’t the case when they visit St. Andrews

Straw clutching at a professional level.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Stu on November 25, 2018, 09:36:11 PM
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As an away fan at no time today did I feel intimidated inside or outside the ground I’m pretty sure this isn’t the case when they visit St. Andrews

Yeah, that's why noses go to the football; to have a shitty day out.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Dave P on November 25, 2018, 09:37:02 PM
I’ve got a feeling this thread will still be going strong for years to come.  One excuse I heard is that the EFL haven’t punished them yet so they are in limbo.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: mike on November 25, 2018, 09:39:19 PM
In fairness, it's hard to argue that we only won because we scored more goals than them.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Damo70 on November 25, 2018, 09:51:05 PM
In fairness, it's hard to argue that we only won because we scored more goals than them.

It is the monkeys and typewriters theory. If enough bluenose twats come up with enough excuses for losing to the vile one of them will eventually stumble upon an explanation that actually makes sense.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Des Little on November 25, 2018, 09:53:59 PM
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As an away fan at no time today did I feel intimidated inside or outside the ground I’m pretty sure this isn’t the case when they visit St. Andrews

We’d all feel as safe as houses if the old bill built us a tunnel from the train station to the away turnstiles like they do for Blues at VP. Buffoons
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: olaftab on November 25, 2018, 10:22:57 PM
Franksie on WM said Gardner was man of the match!!
Absolutely correct as usual he is. MOTM usually are chosen from a team that concedes four.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: olaftab on November 25, 2018, 10:25:06 PM
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As an away fan at no time today did I feel intimidated inside or outside the ground I’m pretty sure this isn’t the case when they visit St. Andrews
I read that as high praise for us.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: brentastonb6 on November 25, 2018, 10:27:54 PM
Don't forget they won THE trophy today. The one you get for claiming to have more fans drinking in pubs in town.
Where is this Town yee speaks of ?
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Ad@m on November 25, 2018, 10:33:58 PM
Franksie on WM said Gardner was man of the match!!
Absolutely correct as usual he is. MOTM usually are chosen from a team that concedes four.

Especially one who gets subbed off to spare him any more blushes!
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: hilts_coolerking on November 25, 2018, 11:35:46 PM
I’ve got a feeling this thread will still be going strong for years to come.  One excuse I heard is that the EFL haven’t punished them yet so they are in limbo.

I think I can help you out there: "As for us, anything would be possible if could even sign a couple of players. We're stuck until this situation gets sorted."
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on November 25, 2018, 11:50:46 PM
Don't forget they won THE trophy today. The one you get for claiming to have more fans drinking in pubs in town.
Where is this Town yee speaks of ?

South east Birmingham.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Pvb1968 on November 26, 2018, 12:01:30 AM
75% possession, more shots on and off target.
The goal of the season from a 33 year old right back.
Goodnight.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 26, 2018, 03:13:56 AM
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As an away fan at no time today did I feel intimidated inside or outside the ground I’m pretty sure this isn’t the case when they visit St. Andrews

That’s literally why they exist. They have nothing else at all to hope for outside a fight. What a way to live. Fucking trogs
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 26, 2018, 03:52:38 AM
Beepity beep beep beep

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On top of this We need to do more to redress their city is ours nonsense. I’ve had FB messages of their version of this sent from acquaintances and not one of them live in the City of Birmingham. Nor even regularly frequent within our City boundaries. I do not think they understand irony. But they need to know we cannot stand for such nonsense from such turgid Fanny’s as them.

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It’s another ‘sorrow’ for us lads but we’ll get over this, they might have the wins over us, the ‘success’ before I was born but I’d never want to be a villa fan, the chants and the fan base aren’t for me. We are true Brummies.

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Speaking of Albion, I'm going to be a baggie for the night on 7th December. I'm going with my mate to Albion v the vile.
And I will support baggies for that night like they are my team.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Ad@m on November 26, 2018, 05:50:03 AM

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Speaking of Albion, I'm going to be a baggie for the night on 7th December. I'm going with my mate to Albion v the vile.
And I will support baggies for that night like they are my team.

I thought Gardner told everyone that Noses were proper fans who wouldn't support other teams just because they could damage their "rivals" chances of success?

Not like those classless Villa fans...
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Axl Rose on November 26, 2018, 06:40:53 AM
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As an away fan at no time today did I feel intimidated inside or outside the ground I’m pretty sure this isn’t the case when they visit St. Andrews
I read that as high praise for us.

Yes, me too, mate.

I've visited St Andrews once and thought 'what a horrible place, with no atmosphere. Third world'.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: aj2k77 on November 26, 2018, 09:17:38 AM
Another brilliant victory, another bag of excuses and bullshit bingo from the 70's throwbacks.

If only it had gone in - check
Drinking in town - check
They all live in Shropshire - check
The atmosphere was shit - check
Grealish cheated/should have been sent off - check
Proper Brummies - check
Financially unfair - check

Battered at Villa Park - check

I'd say it's mission accomplished. See you in another 6 months freaks. :D
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on November 26, 2018, 09:41:45 AM
Where was the passion? Humiliating.

You what?

How can you say they didn't play without passion?

Clueless

Isn’t that a double negative?
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on November 26, 2018, 09:43:03 AM
Ahhhh, one of them has outed himself.

 bluer than blues
13:42, Sun 25 Nov
 e17blue
It's days like this that I'm glad I don't live in Brum. Listening to those chunts. They'll be intolerable. I'm sorry for all you lads that have to face them.

Just remember this: they're shit and we'll do them at home. Jota would have ruined this lot.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: SashasGrandad on November 26, 2018, 09:46:43 AM
The city was theirs
The city was theirs
Only for 9 minutes
But the city was theirs.

No mention of football on BBC midlands tv news this morning.

Apparently they have sacked their football correspondent. He tried to tell them lies.

Small Heath took the lead
Grealish scored a header
Small Heath scored a 2nd goal
Villa played badly but still scored 4.

He had almost fooled them but they caught him out when described McCafu’s goal.

He beat that many players and not one tried to break his legs!
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: walsall villain on November 26, 2018, 10:03:08 AM
The city was theirs
The city was theirs
Only for 9 minutes
But the city was theirs.

No mention of football on BBC midlands tv news this morning.

Apparently they have sacked their football correspondent. He tried to tell them lies.

Small Heath took the lead
Grealish scored a header
Small Heath scored a 2nd goal
Villa played badly but still scored 4.

He had almost fooled them but they caught him out when described McCafu’s goal.

He beat that many players and not one tried to break his legs!
Yep noticed that last night, just gave Wolves result and no mention of derby. Why I wonder? Very odd.
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Post by: Richard E on November 26, 2018, 10:30:19 AM
Ben Sidwell, who is a Midlands Today news reporter, was in the Lower Holte yesterday wearing a Villa shirt, unless he has a doppelganger. 
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Post by: Breezeblock on November 26, 2018, 11:08:45 AM
Well, that was a novelty!

Quote from: Some knuckledragging fucktard
Squatnose
19:47, Sun 25 Nov
 B13blues
Hopefully next time we play them we'll be 3-0 up with moments to play when Kief puts the greasy chunt in a wheelchair. It'd be a red card we could happily live with.

Very shortly followed by:

Quote from: Some other knuckledragging fucktard
Roland_Weary
22:03, Sun 25 Nov
 TiltonPartTimer
Those olés* are still ringing in my ears. Sums up that club, no class.

I now know why irony burns so much when you snort coffee down your nose from laughing  ;D

* I inserted the acute é myself seeing as the unwashed hard-of-thinking gimps think an accent is "what da Geordies speak like!"
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Post by: dave.woodhall on November 26, 2018, 11:55:45 AM
Ben Sidwell, who is a Midlands Today news reporter, was in the Lower Holte yesterday wearing a Villa shirt, unless he has a doppelganger. 

He hasn't and he was.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: tomd2103 on November 26, 2018, 01:06:12 PM
Another brilliant victory, another bag of excuses and bullshit bingo from the 70's throwbacks.

If only it had gone in - check
Drinking in town - check
They all live in Shropshire - check
The atmosphere was shit - check
Grealish cheated/should have been sent off - check
Proper Brummies - check
Financially unfair - check

Battered at Villa Park - check

I'd say it's mission accomplished. See you in another 6 months freaks. :D

Then hopefully it will be the case like the late 80's and all of the 90's when we were literally in a different league (or two) to them and apart from the odd cup game, they were a total irrelevance to us. 
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Post by: Behind Bluenose Lines on November 26, 2018, 01:16:21 PM
Another brilliant victory, another bag of excuses and bullshit bingo from the 70's throwbacks.

If only it had gone in - check
Drinking in town - check
They all live in Shropshire - check
The atmosphere was shit - check
Grealish cheated/should have been sent off - check
Proper Brummies - check
Financially unfair - check

Battered at Villa Park - check

I'd say it's mission accomplished. See you in another 6 months freaks. :D

You've forgotten another classic:
"Our club bears the city's name!"
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: aj2k77 on November 26, 2018, 01:48:16 PM
Another brilliant victory, another bag of excuses and bullshit bingo from the 70's throwbacks.

If only it had gone in - check
Drinking in town - check
They all live in Shropshire - check
The atmosphere was shit - check
Grealish cheated/should have been sent off - check
Proper Brummies - check
Financially unfair - check

Battered at Villa Park - check

I'd say it's mission accomplished. See you in another 6 months freaks. :D

You've forgotten another classic:
"Our club bears the city's name!"

Which is a shame since all they've ever done is cause embarrassment to it. And no, noses reading this, killing Leeds fans rioting and/or  winning the AA second hand car trophy isn't something to be proud of.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Pvb1968 on November 26, 2018, 01:59:48 PM
When it does happen and they actually beat us they won't shut the Fcuk up about it and all other matches won't count. Never has one football club solely existed for no other reason than to hate another one. For me it's a case of don't lose and move on, if we do get promoted this season it would be nice not to play them for a while.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: OCD on November 26, 2018, 02:09:46 PM
I had a nose tell me this morning that if it had hit the post and gone in, they would have gone on to score 5 or 6.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 26, 2018, 02:18:25 PM
I had a nose tell me this morning that if it had hit the post and gone in, they would have gone on to score 5 or 6.

... Tone.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Risso on November 26, 2018, 02:20:33 PM
I had a nose tell me this morning that if it had hit the post and gone in, they would have gone on to score 5 or 6.

I had the same.  Becuase that's happened really often after they've scored two goals.  They scored two against Leeds, then conceded one later on, did exactly the same against Reading.  Against Rotherham, they scored one more and conceded one.  I can't be arsed to check, but I wonder how far back you have to go in the mists of time to see them give somebody a five or six goal twatting?  They really must have the highest proportion of moronic, deluded tramps within their fanbase of any team in English football.
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Post by: PeterWithe on November 26, 2018, 02:22:21 PM
I had a nose tell me this morning that if it had hit the post and gone in, they would have gone on to score 5 or 6.

They would, it would have taken them the rest of the season mind.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: The Edge on November 26, 2018, 02:25:39 PM
I had a nose tell me this morning that if it had hit the post and gone in, they would have gone on to score 5 or 6.

They would, it would have taken them the rest of the season mind.
Buddum Tisshh
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Post by: PeterWithe on November 26, 2018, 02:29:04 PM
Here all week etc..
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Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on November 26, 2018, 03:02:20 PM
Don't forget they won THE trophy today. The one you get for claiming to have more fans drinking in pubs in town.

Had a nose on Facebook earlier this year giving it the big one and claiming that there were no Villa in the city on the night after the game.
I pointed out to him that as he was at the O2 Academy watching Erasure that evening it would've been difficult to encounter any. 
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Post by: tomd2103 on November 26, 2018, 03:18:11 PM
Another brilliant victory, another bag of excuses and bullshit bingo from the 70's throwbacks.

If only it had gone in - check
Drinking in town - check
They all live in Shropshire - check
The atmosphere was shit - check
Grealish cheated/should have been sent off - check
Proper Brummies - check
Financially unfair - check

Battered at Villa Park - check

I'd say it's mission accomplished. See you in another 6 months freaks. :D

You've forgotten another classic:
"Our club bears the city's name!"

How many times did they change it before that was the case?
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Richard E on November 26, 2018, 03:19:05 PM
If they applied this much mental agility to more productive tasks, like learning to read and write, more of them would be able to afford to go to their matches.
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Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on November 26, 2018, 03:34:48 PM
Instead of being bitter, petty, mindnumbingly boring, scummy twunts our near neighbours should try displaying a bit more 42tude!!
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Risso on November 26, 2018, 03:39:15 PM
If they applied this much mental agility to more productive tasks, like learning to read and write, more of them would be able to afford to go to gay.

I didn't realise that going gay was all that expensive!  Is it the designer shoes?
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Post by: clash city rocker on November 26, 2018, 03:42:01 PM
Can someone remind me again....who actually are Birmingham city ? Are they the local speedway team ?
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Post by: Des Little on November 26, 2018, 03:43:25 PM
Breaks yer 'art, Tom
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Post by: Richard E on November 26, 2018, 03:47:35 PM
If they applied this much mental agility to more productive tasks, like learning to read and write, more of them would be able to afford to go to gay.

I didn't realise that going gay was all that expensive!  Is it the designer shoes?

The wonders of auto-bloody-correct.
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Post by: Fasth56 on November 26, 2018, 05:19:23 PM
You want lessons on giving explanations on moral victories, just read this it is comedy gold

https://www.that lot.com/read.php?1,2592211
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Post by: chrisw1 on November 26, 2018, 05:26:10 PM
You want lessons on giving explanations on moral victories, just read this it is comedy gold

https://www.that lot.com/read.php?1,2592211

Feeling sorry for the guy with the trapped hamster.  Hope it's ok, not sure I'll sleep tonight...

https://www.that lot.com/read.php?1,2591078
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Post by: chrisw1 on November 26, 2018, 05:28:13 PM
Jesus -

live hamster update. Located on a ledge after drilling a fourth hole. A mate lent us an endoscope type thing.

Come on Hammy, I know being a Blues fan is bad, but come down from that ledge...
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: mike on November 26, 2018, 05:30:12 PM
I had a nose tell me this morning that if it had hit the post and gone in, they would have gone on to score 5 or 6.

Yes, if their shots had gone in and ours hadn't we would definitely have lost. We only won because we were able to make the ball go into the net rather than nearly go into the net. It's not really fair, I suppose.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 26, 2018, 05:33:33 PM
Beepity beep beep beep

Quote
We went through Witton on the train after being in Digbeth all day, was quiet by then though (6.17 train) as we had an extra one in the Irish Centre then walked through the Chinese quarter to Snobs for one on the way back to New Street...City is theirs they say?..not a squeak so if they were about they were keeping their heads below the parapet.

Quote
Mmmm. The ‘city is ours chant’ was vociferously queried on Witton station as they were all heading AWAY from Birmingham.
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Post by: Pvb1968 on November 26, 2018, 05:52:07 PM
How many points do you get for a moral victory? I've looked at the table but can't find the column.
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Post by: Border villan on November 26, 2018, 06:01:32 PM
Another brilliant victory, another bag of excuses and bullshit bingo from the 70's throwbacks.

If only it had gone in - check
Drinking in town - check
They all live in Shropshire - check
The atmosphere was shit - check
Grealish cheated/should have been sent off - check
Proper Brummies - check
Financially unfair - check

Battered at Villa Park - check

I'd say it's mission accomplished. See you in another 6 months freaks. :D
And another excuse;
It was the refs fault that limited the moral victory. If he had sent off all those who kicked lumps out of Jack they would have lost with about 7 left on the pitch. Now that would be a moral defeat.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Hookeysmith on November 26, 2018, 07:10:08 PM
Another brilliant victory, another bag of excuses and bullshit bingo from the 70's throwbacks.

If only it had gone in - check
Drinking in town - check
They all live in Shropshire - check
The atmosphere was shit - check
Grealish cheated/should have been sent off - check
Proper Brummies - check
Financially unfair - check

Battered at Villa Park - check

I'd say it's mission accomplished. See you in another 6 months freaks. :D

You've forgotten another classic:
"Our club bears the city's name!"
Just like HMP Birmingham
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Deano's Mullet on November 26, 2018, 07:31:02 PM
This shit about no Villa fans in Birmingham is bollocks. Their supporters generally come from  South Birmingham. Ours come from the North Districts amongst others. They have to pass through the city centre to get to Villa Park. Ours will quite often get to Villa Park without having to pass through the city. And what, none of them life anywhere else? I see posts by London blue, Redditch Blue amongst others. Utter utter bullshit.  And drinking in town in the evening? Who generally wears a football shirt to a pub in the evening? I go back into the city centre to get a bite to eat after home games and it's full of claret and blue shirts that's been to the game. No blue tops. I see more Arsenal or Chelsea tops in New Street than I do Blues. They can't beat us on the pitch so they have to try and best us off it.
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Post by: littleoldme on November 26, 2018, 07:33:59 PM
You want lessons on giving explanations on moral victories, just read this it is comedy gold

https://www.that lot.com/read.php?1,2592211
Just looked,going for a shower.
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Post by: Border villan on November 26, 2018, 07:47:56 PM
Never get a bluenose a drum for Christmas as they wont even beat that.
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Post by: Ad@m on November 26, 2018, 08:20:50 PM
You want lessons on giving explanations on moral victories, just read this it is comedy gold

https://www.that lot.com/read.php?1,2592211


"Sticks in the claw"!

Either they're inbred with poultry or they really are as stupid as they look!
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Post by: dave.woodhall on November 26, 2018, 08:27:29 PM
Another brilliant victory, another bag of excuses and bullshit bingo from the 70's throwbacks.

If only it had gone in - check
Drinking in town - check
They all live in Shropshire - check
The atmosphere was shit - check
Grealish cheated/should have been sent off - check
Proper Brummies - check
Financially unfair - check

Battered at Villa Park - check

I'd say it's mission accomplished. See you in another 6 months freaks. :D

You've forgotten another classic:
"Our club bears the city's name!"
Just like HMP Birmingham

That had to change its name as well.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Richie on November 26, 2018, 09:04:17 PM
Agree with lots of the original post from the Bluenose regarding the game but he seems to have conveniently forgot a few things :-

1. One of the three major players they were apparently missing was very kindly loaned to them by us, on the basis that he’s about our 8th choice in midfield as he’s nowhere near good enough for us. Despite this fact, they can’t do without him. Says it all.

2. We were missing McGinn. Probably our most influential midfielder this season who runs all day long and is in great form.

3. Chester had a mare as he clearly wasn’t 100% fit but had to play as he was our only option.

4. Their second goal was scored by a player who was signed against EFL rules.
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Post by: Dave P on November 26, 2018, 09:06:41 PM
Agree with lots of the original post from the Bluenose regarding the game but he seems to have conveniently forgot a few things :-

1. One of the three major players they were apparently missing was very kindly loaned to them by us, on the basis that he’s about our 8th choice in midfield as he’s nowhere near good enough for us. Despite this fact, they can’t do without him. Says it all.

2. We were missing McGinn. Probably our most influential midfielder this season who runs all day long and is in great form.

3. Chester had a mare as he clearly wasn’t 100% fit but had to play as he was our only option.

4. Their second goal was scored by a player who was signed against EFL rules.

Four amazing points there.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: LukeJames on November 26, 2018, 09:37:03 PM
Daft bastards used up all their luck in the Enckleman derby.
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Post by: mike on November 26, 2018, 10:02:06 PM
This shit about no Villa fans in Birmingham is bollocks. Their supporters generally come from  South Birmingham. Ours come from the North Districts amongst others. They have to pass through the city centre to get to Villa Park. Ours will quite often get to Villa Park without having to pass through the city. And what, none of them life anywhere else? I see posts by London blue, Redditch Blue amongst others. Utter utter bullshit.  And drinking in town in the evening? Who generally wears a football shirt to a pub in the evening? I go back into the city centre to get a bite to eat after home games and it's full of claret and blue shirts that's been to the game. No blue tops. I see more Arsenal or Chelsea tops in New Street than I do Blues. They can't beat us on the pitch so they have to try and best us off it.

It’s not even a north/south Birmingham thing. You’ll see more Villa shirts than Blues in Northfield and Kings Norton too. They really are nowhere near as big as Villa in Birmingham let alone in the West Midlands.
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Post by: Richard E on November 26, 2018, 10:22:14 PM
My Dad is actually from Small Heath and even he doesn't support them.
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Post by: Fasth56 on November 26, 2018, 10:25:04 PM
Surprised that they haven't mentioned the period of play where we kept the ball for all the oles preventing them scoring. Loved that piss taking though.
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Post by: joe_c on November 26, 2018, 10:37:13 PM
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-0IBeum_45Ak/WkPXj0lTsNI/AAAAAAAAIP8/EhVb_FIJE6IysIh_G9b8uP3OJgmCHe2KgCLcBGAs/s1600/black_knight.gif)
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 26, 2018, 10:39:57 PM
Surprised that they haven't mentioned the period of play where we kept the ball for all the oles preventing them scoring. Loved that piss taking though.

Quote
Those olés* are still ringing in my ears. Sums up that club, no class.

If they'd have done it I have no doubt it would be added to the ashtray in their trophy cabinet and they'd have lived off it for decades.
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Post by: Des Little on November 26, 2018, 10:41:49 PM
Their belly aching, self-pitying whinging and general saltiness the day after the derby is almost as enjoyable as the game itself. Do they really believe the utter shit they come out with? It’s like a cult for imbeciles over on that SHA teletext site. Love it.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on November 26, 2018, 10:57:42 PM
I love the way they talk about 'class' as though a history built on boasting about football violence and having a succession of criminal owners is in  some way admirable. Lest we forget, this is a club who once held a civic reception the day after someone was killed in a riot at their ground.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 26, 2018, 11:05:41 PM
Running on the pitch and giving the wanker sign to Encks, Carr giving the wanker sign, an obsession with violence and so on equals legendary status for them. We "Olé" as we enjoy a victory and we have no class.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: astonvilla82 on November 26, 2018, 11:35:11 PM
It's always been a myth that Birmingham have more support in south Birmingham, I worked for the council, well turned, for 43 years and  they NEVER out numbered us.It was only when we moved to Stratford upon Avon
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: tomd2103 on November 26, 2018, 11:36:10 PM
Their belly aching, self-pitying whinging and general saltiness the day after the derby is almost as enjoyable as the game itself. Do they really believe the utter shit they come out with? It’s like a cult for imbeciles over on that SHA teletext site. Love it.

Yep and it all so predictable.  In every post on social media or every call to a phone-in you can just feel the pain and upset behind the words.  What has become more apparent over the last few years though is just how much the "the city is ours" chant winds them up.  I wonder if we could crowd fund to get a billboard put up by the Bullring with it on?
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 26, 2018, 11:42:23 PM
They've become a parody but are too thick to realise it. It's very funny and yet tragic at the same time.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: OzVilla on November 27, 2018, 05:31:07 AM
It's always been a myth that Birmingham have more support in south Birmingham, I worked for the council, well turned, for 43 years and  they NEVER out numbered us.It was only when we moved to Stratford upon Avon

My family are all from South Birmingham where we grew up before moving to Redditch later.  At every school I attended we outnumbered them and by quite a lot too.  In my experience it's just a total myth that these areas are in any way nose strongholds.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Three Spires Villa on November 27, 2018, 08:12:38 AM
Born, grew up went to school Kings Heath / Kings Norton and there are loads of Villa. As I am a certain age, it got a bit rough around1985 on the number 50 and 35 buses, mostly it was lads who got into the Zulu thing and not Small Heath fans. Lots of Villa from Kings Heath and we had a reunion up at Wigan in the Wetherspoons a few years back. Pubs in Moseley always split between Villa and them. It’s total rubbish, total rubbish.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on November 27, 2018, 08:48:11 AM
Born and raised in south birmingham. Moved to redditch and have very rarely come across noses. Always more Villa at school, work and socially in these areas. Always more Villa around the kingfisher shopping centre. Even on a match day when scum are at home, very few on train in from redditch and this train passes through quite a few south birmingham stations. I've probs seen more out of area footy tops than nose tops, so this south birmingham thing re the noses still has to be proven to me.
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Post by: andyh on November 27, 2018, 09:00:19 AM
You misheard, he said "neanderthal man of the match".
Another one here. 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AINGp5wO3_4

Happy birthday Craig xx

Yes.  Enjoy your salty, tear stained birthday now, y'hear.

He looks a really poor player now, who only really offers anything at set pieces.  Got hooked as well which is always a nice moment!
Franksie on WM said Gardner was man of the match!!
Yeah, but to be fair, Frankisie is a ******.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: luke95 on November 27, 2018, 09:01:12 AM
South Brum as a whole has always been by far Villa .
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: andyh on November 27, 2018, 09:14:00 AM
I really don’t know why we bother getting embroiled in this ‘more fans in North / South Brum’ or ‘pubs in town’ bollocks.

Everyone in football, EVERYONE, knows and understands that Villa are the biggest club in the region. Full stop.

It’s not worth the energy arguing about it, not even for ‘bantz’.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: mike on November 27, 2018, 09:28:12 AM
I really don’t know why we bother getting embroiled in this ‘more fans in North / South Brum’ or ‘pubs in town’ bollocks.

Everyone in football, EVERYONE, knows and understands that Villa are the biggest club in the region. Full stop.

It’s not worth the energy arguing about it, not even for ‘bantz’.

It was someone from this site who said South Birmingham was more Bluenose, you can't expect me to take a slur like that on the chin...
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Post by: dorsetvillian on November 27, 2018, 10:15:27 AM
The Blues fan base is very small. It doesn't matter if it's South Birmingham, Birmingham, UK. Living down here in Dorset I've never seen a Blues shirt and can recall only once or twice having spoken to a single blues nose. Yet time and again I will see and speak to Villa fans.  Only last Saturday I went to watch an U18  game where a couple of lads I coached last year were playing. One of the dads saw my Villa hat and we chatted for most of the match about Villa, he along with his two sons were Villa. On the way home I stopped in my local village at a zebra crossing  and a lad of 8 or 9 rode across on his bike  in a full Villa kit. It happens all the time amongst a sea of glory hunters.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: The Edge on November 27, 2018, 10:26:02 AM
Agree with lots of the original post from the Bluenose regarding the game but he seems to have conveniently forgot a few things :-

1. One of the three major players they were apparently missing was very kindly loaned to them by us, on the basis that he’s about our 8th choice in midfield as he’s nowhere near good enough for us. Despite this fact, they can’t do without him. Says it all.

2. We were missing McGinn. Probably our most influential midfielder this season who runs all day long and is in great form.

3. Chester had a mare as he clearly wasn’t 100% fit but had to play as he was our only option.

4. Their second goal was scored by a player who was signed against EFL rules.

Four amazing points there.
Yes I agree. Superb post that.
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Post by: chrisw1 on November 27, 2018, 10:29:32 AM
To be fair if you see some of the videos from the lower north there wasn't much class amongst our fans there.  They seemed to spend far more time watching and gesticulating to the Blues fans than they did the game.  And they seem very proud of on fb / twitter etc.  I always like to think we're a cut above, but the reality is we have our own bellends too.

And as for various peoples comments about them being obsessed and for us it's 'just another game,' a 9 page pisstake thread would suggest otherwise!
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Post by: Brend'Watkins on November 27, 2018, 10:38:56 AM
A 9 page pisstake Does not = obsession. It means that people like taking the piss out of their local rivals who are obsessed about drinking in town and boasting about it.

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Post by: chrisw1 on November 27, 2018, 10:43:32 AM
A 9 page pisstake Does not = obsession. It means that people like taking the piss out of their local rivals who are obsessed about drinking in town and boasting about it.


Yeah, it does.  Don't know why people can't admit it.
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Post by: Three Spires Villa on November 27, 2018, 10:47:42 AM
A 9 page pisstake Does not = obsession. It means that people like taking the piss out of their local rivals who are obsessed about drinking in town and boasting about it.


Yeah, it does.  Don't know why people can't admit it.

I am not obsessed, with them. I hate the way they make me feel, with there vile, this, vile that, and total rubbish I have put up with over the years. I dislike the club and fans because of the sheer hatred towards us. So when they are giving it loads about what they are going to do, and we win, of course I am going to celebrate. Personally I hope we go up, and dont play them for 10 years or more.   
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Post by: The Edge on November 27, 2018, 11:05:12 AM
A 9 page pisstake Does not = obsession. It means that people like taking the piss out of their local rivals who are obsessed about drinking in town and boasting about it.


Yeah, it does.  Don't know why people can't admit it.
No it don't.  Speak for yourself. The "obsession" is clearly a one way thing. The hatred is a two way thing though but they definitely hate us a whole lot more than we hate them. What was it Gary Monk said? "My first day at the training ground I was told in no uncertain terms you have GOT to hate the Villa" I doubt very much that new manager/players hear a mention of blues unless we're about to play them.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Chris Smith on November 27, 2018, 11:13:29 AM
A 9 page pisstake Does not = obsession. It means that people like taking the piss out of their local rivals who are obsessed about drinking in town and boasting about it.


Yeah, it does.  Don't know why people can't admit it.

No it doesn’t, Bren is right.

A few weeks ago a bloke I know through work was taking the piss when they went above us for a couple of weeks, I’ll see him tomorrow and give him a bit back. It’s just how it is.

They invent spurious arguments such as drinking in town and all living within walking distance of the Sty because they know when it comes to the things that matter they are miles away from us. Some of them probably believe the nonsense but I am sure most, away from the Internet, just spout it as a wind up.

Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: PGW on November 27, 2018, 11:13:59 AM
This South Birmingham thing with Blues...Ok i'm talking more SW Brum but plenty of us.
Only this Sunday gaffer of my little local opened up the bar at 08:30, the gaffer a young lady is a Villa fan, don't go that often but my
mate her partner really staunch nose and it was his idea to open up early thinking it would be full of noses not going to the game. Sadly he was wrong.
The only customers were 21 match ticket holding Villa going to game...it was a joy to behold, my mates face was a picture.
We all then left at various times from 11:00 to get cabs to ground.

Oh and what happened at the match was a joy, and my poor old mate went to Northfield Town FC to watch match and after he went to various establishments
to avoid coming back to his own pub and bumping into us. Oh what joy!!!
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Ads on November 27, 2018, 11:15:12 AM
A 9 page pisstake Does not = obsession. It means that people like taking the piss out of their local rivals who are obsessed about drinking in town and boasting about it.


Yeah, it does.  Don't know why people can't admit it.

Looks like you're obsessed with saying others are obsessed.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: chrisw1 on November 27, 2018, 11:18:15 AM
A 9 page pisstake Does not = obsession. It means that people like taking the piss out of their local rivals who are obsessed about drinking in town and boasting about it.


Yeah, it does.  Don't know why people can't admit it.

No it doesn’t, Bren is right.

A few weeks ago a bloke I know through work was taking the piss when they went above us for a couple of weeks, I’ll see him tomorrow and give him a bit back. It’s just how it is.

They invent spurious arguments such as drinking in town and all living within walking distance of the Sty because they know when it comes to the things that matter they are miles away from us. Some of them probably believe the nonsense but I am sure most, away from the Internet, just spout it as a wind up.


No he's not.  Whilst we love to say we're not, you only have to look at the threads, you tube videos etc etc to realise it's not true.  Obviously many of us try to rise above it but the reality is a huge amount of Villa fans are just as obsessed as Blues fans and it's hypocritical to suggest otherwise.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on November 27, 2018, 11:27:48 AM
I do not think a single neutral would ever seriously say anything other than Villa are bigger than Birmingham by any sensible measure you make.

Just as you cannot dispute Forest are bigger County, Stoke are bigger than Port Vale, Barcelona are bigger than Espanyol, Real are bigger than Athletico, Juventus are bigger than Torino, Hamburg are bigger than St Pauli.

Others you can debate but I would as an outsider say Liverpool are bigger than Everton, Man U are bigger than Man C, Wednesday are bigger than United, Sunderland are bigger than Newcastle, Bristol City are bigger than Rovers.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: malckennedy on November 27, 2018, 11:40:01 AM
I do not think a single neutral would ever seriously say anything other than Villa are bigger than Birmingham by any sensible measure you make.

Just as you cannot dispute Forest are bigger County, Stoke are bigger than Port Vale, Barcelona are bigger than Espanyol, Real are bigger than Athletico, Juventus are bigger than Torino, Hamburg are bigger than St Pauli.

Others you can debate but I would as an outsider say Liverpool are bigger than Everton, Man U are bigger than Man C, Wednesday are bigger than United, Sunderland are bigger than Newcastle, Bristol City are bigger than Rovers.

Agree with almost everything you say, but Sunderland bigger than Newcastle? I don’t think so.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: paul_e on November 27, 2018, 11:49:17 AM
I do not think a single neutral would ever seriously say anything other than Villa are bigger than Birmingham by any sensible measure you make.

Just as you cannot dispute Forest are bigger County, Stoke are bigger than Port Vale, Barcelona are bigger than Espanyol, Real are bigger than Athletico, Juventus are bigger than Torino, Hamburg are bigger than St Pauli.

Others you can debate but I would as an outsider say Liverpool are bigger than Everton, Man U are bigger than Man C, Wednesday are bigger than United, Sunderland are bigger than Newcastle, Bristol City are bigger than Rovers.

Agree with almost everything you say, but Sunderland bigger than Newcastle? I don’t think so.

I think there's almost nothing between Newcastle and Sunderland. The press pushed Newcastle up a bit when Keegan was there (and then later with Shearer) but the truth is both of them are well supported clubs, with great facilities, that haven't won anything for 40-50 years. Right now Sunderland are in a real low point but there's rarely all that much between the 2 of them.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Risso on November 27, 2018, 11:49:42 AM
A 9 page pisstake Does not = obsession. It means that people like taking the piss out of their local rivals who are obsessed about drinking in town and boasting about it.


Yeah, it does.  Don't know why people can't admit it.

No it doesn’t, Bren is right.

A few weeks ago a bloke I know through work was taking the piss when they went above us for a couple of weeks, I’ll see him tomorrow and give him a bit back. It’s just how it is.

They invent spurious arguments such as drinking in town and all living within walking distance of the Sty because they know when it comes to the things that matter they are miles away from us. Some of them probably believe the nonsense but I am sure most, away from the Internet, just spout it as a wind up.


No he's not.  Whilst we love to say we're not, you only have to look at the threads, you tube videos etc etc to realise it's not true.  Obviously many of us try to rise above it but the reality is a huge amount of Villa fans are just as obsessed as Blues fans and it's hypocritical to suggest otherwise.

The big difference is that our mentioning of them mostly rears its head when we play them.  I think that for most of the rest of the time, the majority of Villa fans see them as an irrelevance.  Whereas Blues fans have a deep-rooted sense of hatred for all things "vile" that penetrates their every waking moment.  You only have to see a snippet of a Blues-WBA match to see this.  Their inferiority complex really does know no bounds.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: paul_e on November 27, 2018, 11:53:30 AM
A 9 page pisstake Does not = obsession. It means that people like taking the piss out of their local rivals who are obsessed about drinking in town and boasting about it.


Yeah, it does.  Don't know why people can't admit it.

No it doesn’t, Bren is right.

A few weeks ago a bloke I know through work was taking the piss when they went above us for a couple of weeks, I’ll see him tomorrow and give him a bit back. It’s just how it is.

They invent spurious arguments such as drinking in town and all living within walking distance of the Sty because they know when it comes to the things that matter they are miles away from us. Some of them probably believe the nonsense but I am sure most, away from the Internet, just spout it as a wind up.


No he's not.  Whilst we love to say we're not, you only have to look at the threads, you tube videos etc etc to realise it's not true.  Obviously many of us try to rise above it but the reality is a huge amount of Villa fans are just as obsessed as Blues fans and it's hypocritical to suggest otherwise.

The big difference is that our mentioning of them mostly rears its head when we play them.  I think that for most of the rest of the time, the majority of Villa fans see them as an irrelevance.  Whereas Blues fans have a deep-rooted sense of hatred for all things "vile" that penetrates their every waking moment.  You only have to see a snippet of a Blues-WBA match to see this.  Their inferiority complex really does know no bounds.

Yep, if we're not in the same league as them the only time you really hear villa fans comment on them is the 'shit on the city' chants at games and the odd pisstake if they get a hammering.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: chrisw1 on November 27, 2018, 11:59:30 AM
A 9 page pisstake Does not = obsession. It means that people like taking the piss out of their local rivals who are obsessed about drinking in town and boasting about it.


Yeah, it does.  Don't know why people can't admit it.

No it doesn’t, Bren is right.

A few weeks ago a bloke I know through work was taking the piss when they went above us for a couple of weeks, I’ll see him tomorrow and give him a bit back. It’s just how it is.

They invent spurious arguments such as drinking in town and all living within walking distance of the Sty because they know when it comes to the things that matter they are miles away from us. Some of them probably believe the nonsense but I am sure most, away from the Internet, just spout it as a wind up.


No he's not.  Whilst we love to say we're not, you only have to look at the threads, you tube videos etc etc to realise it's not true.  Obviously many of us try to rise above it but the reality is a huge amount of Villa fans are just as obsessed as Blues fans and it's hypocritical to suggest otherwise.

The big difference is that our mentioning of them mostly rears its head when we play them.  I think that for most of the rest of the time, the majority of Villa fans see them as an irrelevance.  Whereas Blues fans have a deep-rooted sense of hatred for all things "vile" that penetrates their every waking moment.  You only have to see a snippet of a Blues-WBA match to see this.  Their inferiority complex really does know no bounds.
Yes, that's a fair point. 
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: The Edge on November 27, 2018, 12:05:50 PM
A 9 page pisstake Does not = obsession. It means that people like taking the piss out of their local rivals who are obsessed about drinking in town and boasting about it.


Yeah, it does.  Don't know why people can't admit it.

No it doesn’t, Bren is right.

A few weeks ago a bloke I know through work was taking the piss when they went above us for a couple of weeks, I’ll see him tomorrow and give him a bit back. It’s just how it is.

They invent spurious arguments such as drinking in town and all living within walking distance of the Sty because they know when it comes to the things that matter they are miles away from us. Some of them probably believe the nonsense but I am sure most, away from the Internet, just spout it as a wind up.


No he's not.  Whilst we love to say we're not, you only have to look at the threads, you tube videos etc etc to realise it's not true.  Obviously many of us try to rise above it but the reality is a huge amount of Villa fans are just as obsessed as Blues fans and it's hypocritical to suggest otherwise.

The big difference is that our mentioning of them mostly rears its head when we play them.  I think that for most of the rest of the time, the majority of Villa fans see them as an irrelevance.  Whereas Blues fans have a deep-rooted sense of hatred for all things "vile" that penetrates their every waking moment.  You only have to see a snippet of a Blues-WBA match to see this.  Their inferiority complex really does know no bounds.

Yep, if we're not in the same league as them the only time you really hear villa fans comment on them is the 'shit on the city' chants at games and the odd pisstake if they get a hammering.
Speaking of chants I really wish the villa would start singing "small heath are you listening" instead of "Birmingham" as it plays right into their hands with the whole "were the true club of Birmingham" crap that they love to spout. Just sayin.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Ad@m on November 27, 2018, 12:15:23 PM
A 9 page pisstake Does not = obsession. It means that people like taking the piss out of their local rivals who are obsessed about drinking in town and boasting about it.


Yeah, it does.  Don't know why people can't admit it.

No it doesn’t, Bren is right.

A few weeks ago a bloke I know through work was taking the piss when they went above us for a couple of weeks, I’ll see him tomorrow and give him a bit back. It’s just how it is.

They invent spurious arguments such as drinking in town and all living within walking distance of the Sty because they know when it comes to the things that matter they are miles away from us. Some of them probably believe the nonsense but I am sure most, away from the Internet, just spout it as a wind up.


No he's not.  Whilst we love to say we're not, you only have to look at the threads, you tube videos etc etc to realise it's not true.  Obviously many of us try to rise above it but the reality is a huge amount of Villa fans are just as obsessed as Blues fans and it's hypocritical to suggest otherwise.

The big difference is that our mentioning of them mostly rears its head when we play them.  I think that for most of the rest of the time, the majority of Villa fans see them as an irrelevance.  Whereas Blues fans have a deep-rooted sense of hatred for all things "vile" that penetrates their every waking moment.  You only have to see a snippet of a Blues-WBA match to see this.  Their inferiority complex really does know no bounds.

Yep, if we're not in the same league as them the only time you really hear villa fans comment on them is the 'shit on the city' chants at games and the odd pisstake if they get a hammering.
Speaking of chants I really wish the villa would start singing "small heath are you listening" instead of "Birmingham" as it plays right into their hands with the whole "were the true club of Birmingham" crap that they love to spout. Just sayin.

I always thought that song was addressing the city rather than the club of the same name.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: The Edge on November 27, 2018, 12:45:58 PM
A 9 page pisstake Does not = obsession. It means that people like taking the piss out of their local rivals who are obsessed about drinking in town and boasting about it.


Yeah, it does.  Don't know why people can't admit it.

No it doesn’t, Bren is right.

A few weeks ago a bloke I know through work was taking the piss when they went above us for a couple of weeks, I’ll see him tomorrow and give him a bit back. It’s just how it is.

They invent spurious arguments such as drinking in town and all living within walking distance of the Sty because they know when it comes to the things that matter they are miles away from us. Some of them probably believe the nonsense but I am sure most, away from the Internet, just spout it as a wind up.


No he's not.  Whilst we love to say we're not, you only have to look at the threads, you tube videos etc etc to realise it's not true.  Obviously many of us try to rise above it but the reality is a huge amount of Villa fans are just as obsessed as Blues fans and it's hypocritical to suggest otherwise.

The big difference is that our mentioning of them mostly rears its head when we play them.  I think that for most of the rest of the time, the majority of Villa fans see them as an irrelevance.  Whereas Blues fans have a deep-rooted sense of hatred for all things "vile" that penetrates their every waking moment.  You only have to see a snippet of a Blues-WBA match to see this.  Their inferiority complex really does know no bounds.

Yep, if we're not in the same league as them the only time you really hear villa fans comment on them is the 'shit on the city' chants at games and the odd pisstake if they get a hammering.
Speaking of chants I really wish the villa would start singing "small heath are you listening" instead of "Birmingham" as it plays right into their hands with the whole "were the true club of Birmingham" crap that they love to spout. Just sayin.

I always thought that song was addressing the city rather than the club of the same name.
Don't think so. I think it's sung at them not about them but I don't want to be accused of picking hairs or splitting flies.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: tomd2103 on November 27, 2018, 12:46:43 PM
A 9 page pisstake Does not = obsession. It means that people like taking the piss out of their local rivals who are obsessed about drinking in town and boasting about it.


Yeah, it does.  Don't know why people can't admit it.

No it doesn’t, Bren is right.

A few weeks ago a bloke I know through work was taking the piss when they went above us for a couple of weeks, I’ll see him tomorrow and give him a bit back. It’s just how it is.

They invent spurious arguments such as drinking in town and all living within walking distance of the Sty because they know when it comes to the things that matter they are miles away from us. Some of them probably believe the nonsense but I am sure most, away from the Internet, just spout it as a wind up.


No he's not.  Whilst we love to say we're not, you only have to look at the threads, you tube videos etc etc to realise it's not true.  Obviously many of us try to rise above it but the reality is a huge amount of Villa fans are just as obsessed as Blues fans and it's hypocritical to suggest otherwise.

The big difference is that our mentioning of them mostly rears its head when we play them.  I think that for most of the rest of the time, the majority of Villa fans see them as an irrelevance.  Whereas Blues fans have a deep-rooted sense of hatred for all things "vile" that penetrates their every waking moment.  You only have to see a snippet of a Blues-WBA match to see this.  Their inferiority complex really does know no bounds.

I spotted a flag on the TV yesterday at the cricket in Sri Lanka with a Blues badge on and in the corner it inevitably had 'SOTV'.  Part of their identity of being a Blues fan is a hatred of Villa.  It's almost as important to them as supporting their own club.  You see many Villa flags at the cricket and I can't recall ever seeing one with anything about Blues on them.     

Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 27, 2018, 01:21:18 PM
They sign off all their FB posts with "KRO SOTV", too. If it's just when we are playing them you can understand it, but for those sad twats it's all year round. "Merry Christmas KRO SOTV", "Can't wait for my summer holiday KRO SOTV", "Sister, will you marry me? KRO SOTV".

They have nothing to live for without us.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Ad@m on November 27, 2018, 01:22:01 PM
A 9 page pisstake Does not = obsession. It means that people like taking the piss out of their local rivals who are obsessed about drinking in town and boasting about it.


Yeah, it does.  Don't know why people can't admit it.

No it doesn’t, Bren is right.

A few weeks ago a bloke I know through work was taking the piss when they went above us for a couple of weeks, I’ll see him tomorrow and give him a bit back. It’s just how it is.

They invent spurious arguments such as drinking in town and all living within walking distance of the Sty because they know when it comes to the things that matter they are miles away from us. Some of them probably believe the nonsense but I am sure most, away from the Internet, just spout it as a wind up.


No he's not.  Whilst we love to say we're not, you only have to look at the threads, you tube videos etc etc to realise it's not true.  Obviously many of us try to rise above it but the reality is a huge amount of Villa fans are just as obsessed as Blues fans and it's hypocritical to suggest otherwise.

The big difference is that our mentioning of them mostly rears its head when we play them.  I think that for most of the rest of the time, the majority of Villa fans see them as an irrelevance.  Whereas Blues fans have a deep-rooted sense of hatred for all things "vile" that penetrates their every waking moment.  You only have to see a snippet of a Blues-WBA match to see this.  Their inferiority complex really does know no bounds.

I spotted a flag on the TV yesterday at the cricket in Sri Lanka with a Blues badge on and in the corner it inevitably had 'SOTV'.  Part of their identity of being a Blues fan is a hatred of Villa.  It's almost as important to them as supporting their own club.  You see many Villa flags at the cricket and I can't recall ever seeing one with anything about Blues on them.     

Au contraire.  It's much, much more important.

It's been said many times before, but most Blues fans would be more than happy finishing 23rd and being relegated as long as "Da Vile" finished 24th!
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Risso on November 27, 2018, 01:29:39 PM

I always thought that song was addressing the city rather than the club of the same name.
Don't think so. I think it's sung at them not about them but I don't want to be accused of picking hairs or splitting flies.

I agree with Adam, the first line is surely addressing Birmingham as a place and not them as a team.  Otherwise why would it then go on to mention "The City" later in the line?  None of our songs ever reference them as just "Birmingham" that I can recall.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: LeeB on November 27, 2018, 01:51:09 PM
They sign off all their FB posts with "KRO SOTV", too. If it's just when we are playing them you can understand it, but for those sad twats it's all year round. "Merry Christmas KRO SOTV", "Can't wait for my summer holiday KRO SOTV", "Sister, will you marry me? KRO SOTV".

They have nothing to live for without us.

"Not guilty your honour, KRO SOTV"
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Axl Rose on November 27, 2018, 01:58:50 PM
When we play them, and in the run up to the games, I hate everything about them. Besides that, they rarely cross my mind. Fuck them.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Breezeblock on November 27, 2018, 02:05:42 PM
A 9 page pisstake Does not = obsession. It means that people like taking the piss out of their local rivals who are obsessed about drinking in town and boasting about it.


Yeah, it does.  Don't know why people can't admit it.

I am not obsessed, with them. I hate the way they make me feel, with there vile, this, vile that, and total rubbish I have put up with over the years. I dislike the club and fans because of the sheer hatred towards us. So when they are giving it loads about what they are going to do, and we win, of course I am going to celebrate. Personally I hope we go up, and dont play them for 10 years or more.   
What he said.  Without us they would be bereft. Without them we would be indifferent!
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: nodge on November 27, 2018, 02:28:10 PM
Agree with lots of the original post from the Bluenose regarding the game but he seems to have conveniently forgot a few things :-

1. One of the three major players they were apparently missing was very kindly loaned to them by us, on the basis that he’s about our 8th choice in midfield as he’s nowhere near good enough for us. Despite this fact, they can’t do without him. Says it all.

2. We were missing McGinn. Probably our most influential midfielder this season who runs all day long and is in great form.

3. Chester had a mare as he clearly wasn’t 100% fit but had to play as he was our only option.

4. Their second goal was scored by a player who was signed against EFL rules.

Four amazing points there.
Yes I agree. Superb post that.


On point 4 though, if they hadn’t been allowed to sign him he wouldn’t have been able to pass to Hutton before he went on his mazy run through their shite team.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Chipsticks on November 27, 2018, 02:30:39 PM
Don't forget they won THE trophy today. The one you get for claiming to have more fans drinking in pubs in town.

The whole thing about drinking in town is absolutely hilarious to me.

I feel like it's entirely based on them not seeing many Villa fans about, neglecting the fact that 39,000 of us are at the game?
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Drummond on November 27, 2018, 03:47:26 PM
"why do them tossers get the rub of the green all the time against us why don’t just for once we get some luck , think back to Jerome heading the Underwood the bar and not going in if that was them it would have been given all the penalties given when blatantly aren’t pens that’s 3 in the last 3 games at vile pork they have had tosspots make me sick"

hahahahahahaha
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Exeter 77 on November 27, 2018, 04:08:27 PM
When was there a penalty last season? If they want facts they should at least not make them up completely.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Three Spires Villa on November 27, 2018, 04:22:56 PM
I cant remember a penalty at Villa since James Milner, I could be wrong of course.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Richard on November 27, 2018, 04:24:21 PM
The thing with them is that unlike the Albion they don't have anything remotely going for them or something you might at least respect. I love beating the Baggies but winning against Blues means more because they absolutely hate us just for our very existence.

They have been falling over themselves on line to bad mouth us for years and there's definitely a violent undercurrent as its in their DNA. Eventually they will beat us but unlike them we will accept and move on to the next game.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Broughty-Villian on November 27, 2018, 04:40:34 PM
After the "Enk" game, I awoke to find a envelope on my door mat with no stamp or anything on it. Inside was a newspaperclipping of poor "Enk". Turns out a Blues mate, had misappropiated a couple of hundred pounds of company money to get this couriered to my door overnight. Fair play....

So Monday he gets a gif of their fans celebrating the ball hitting the post.

Unfriended on social media and a sarky txt to say no need and how classless.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Dr Butler on November 27, 2018, 04:42:27 PM
The thing with them is that unlike the Albion they don't have anything remotely going for them or something you might at least respect. I love beating the Baggies but winning against Blues means more because they absolutely hate us just for our very existence.

They have been falling over themselves on line to bad mouth us for years and there's definitely a violent undercurrent as its in their DNA. Eventually they will beat us but unlike them we will accept and move on to the next game.

Richard it is difficult to move on when that lot only have a 2 game season and they have been demolished in the 1st of them :)

UTV
The Doc
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Drummond on November 27, 2018, 04:46:32 PM
'We’ve spent our history in their shadow but we shouldn’t become accustomed to it. Defeatist.'

Someone knows his place.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: The Left Side on November 27, 2018, 05:35:49 PM
I worked in a King's Heath school for a few years during MON's tenure, I would always get teased by the rags about them being bigger. So the easiest way to shut them up is ask them how they measure this, it would confuse the feck out of them.

Bigger stadium, perhaps?
Larger attendances at home or away?
Most years in the top flight?
Most league and cup wins?
Most players represented at international level?
Hosting semi-finals or international games?
How often are they on TV compared to "da villa"

You can go on and on but it overwhelms them so they retort with the old cliches about more fans and more pashun and being harder... they won't ever understand but they will keep right on and enjoy living in the shadows. We offer them a glimpse into a better life every once in a while and they seem to be happy with it, if they get lucky they might even get a goalless draw out of us.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: CT on November 27, 2018, 05:58:49 PM
I was having a toast with my lad on the way back on Sunday as it was his first derby game. "Here's to many more wins against them".

Then I immediately changed it and said "I hope you never see us play them again"!
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Damo70 on November 27, 2018, 06:14:19 PM
Can someone remind me again....who actually are Birmingham city ? Are they the local speedway team ?


Speedway is a good analogy for them. Dirty, noisy, always going round in circles and always appear to be on the verge of coming a cropper.

Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Damo70 on November 27, 2018, 06:21:41 PM
You want lessons on giving explanations on moral victories, just read this it is comedy gold

https://www.that lot.com/read.php?1,2592211

'The Reverse Fixture Thread' (Yes, already)!

"Give them 800 tickets, open 'The John Merrick' and sue WMP and the EFL if they try to prevent us from doing so".

Do they have enough money to fund litigation against the police and football league?
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Brassneck on November 27, 2018, 06:26:01 PM
You want lessons on giving explanations on moral victories, just read this it is comedy gold

https://www.that lot.com/read.php?1,2592211

'The Reverse Fixture Thread' (Yes, already)!

"Give them 800 tickets, open 'The John Merrick' and sue WMP and the EFL if they try to prevent us from doing so".

Do they have enough money to fund litigation against the police and football league?

Durrrr Nose - Are you not even aware of EFL regulations?  It's 2,000 minimum if your ground holds 20,000 or more.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on November 27, 2018, 06:29:47 PM
Quote
Sweepover
18:09, Tue 27 Nov
 Bluesince62
Christ, weve got to turn this thing round IMHO.

Where does the away team coach park ?.

I'm planning a warm welcome, them slags have had it easy at St Andrew's for far too long.

The return of the Proper old School Blues welcome.
The last white Taxi Man in all of England :-(

UP THE BLUES !.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: shipscat on November 27, 2018, 06:30:32 PM
This shit about no Villa fans in Birmingham is bollocks. Their supporters generally come from  South Birmingham. Ours come from the North Districts amongst others. They have to pass through the city centre to get to Villa Park. Ours will quite often get to Villa Park without having to pass through the city. And what, none of them life anywhere else? I see posts by London blue, Redditch Blue amongst others. Utter utter bullshit.  And drinking in town in the evening? Who generally wears a football shirt to a pub in the evening? I go back into the city centre to get a bite to eat after home games and it's full of claret and blue shirts that's been to the game. No blue tops. I see more Arsenal or Chelsea tops in New Street than I do Blues. They can't beat us on the pitch so they have to try and best us off it.

And the irony is that the vast majority of the Elizabeth Duke Bollocks swinging pondlife come from Redditch and Solihull.That southside supporter base has really whittled down over the past 20 years..i reckon places like Longbridge are now 50/50

Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Brassneck on November 27, 2018, 06:31:58 PM
Birmingham is the 2nd biggest city in England.  Do they even think through their silly claims.  They get 21,000 for home matches ffs.  Is that a true reflection on the proportion of fans who watch football in the city?

For clarity, Sheffield is 3 or 400,000 smaller in population yet both Sheffield clubs get more through their turnstiles than Blues.  Derby, Norwich and Stoke are all a fraction of the size of Birmingham yet they all get bigger crowds than Blues.

Blues are a minority in their city and the figures support this.

Personally, I don't care where our fans come from, I don't care who carries the city's name and I don't care where our wonderful fans drink before games.  I do care that we got 3 points on Sunday though and having grown up in south Birmingham, I thank God that somehow, he guided me towards the club that all of us love so dearly.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: astonvilla82 on November 27, 2018, 06:40:13 PM
Has this become the south birmingham love in?
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Post by: Damo70 on November 27, 2018, 06:43:19 PM
You want lessons on giving explanations on moral victories, just read this it is comedy gold

https://www.that lot.com/read.php?1,2592211

'The Reverse Fixture Thread' (Yes, already)!

"Give them 800 tickets, open 'The John Merrick' and sue WMP and the EFL if they try to prevent us from doing so".

Do they have enough money to fund litigation against the police and football league?

Durrrr Nose - Are you not even aware of EFL regulations?  It's 2,000 minimum if your ground holds 20,000 or more.

Firstly they are probably not aware of EFL regulations and secondly they would get confused with the maths side of working out the allocations percentage.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Damo70 on November 27, 2018, 06:47:34 PM
Don't forget they won THE trophy today. The one you get for claiming to have more fans drinking in pubs in town.

The whole thing about drinking in town is absolutely hilarious to me.

I feel like it's entirely based on them not seeing many Villa fans about, neglecting the fact that 39,000 of us are at the game?




I think it is very much based on the fact that a far larger percentage of their fans insist on leaving the house dressed up as if they are the matchday mascot.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: steamer on November 27, 2018, 07:19:13 PM
Is Ward end/Glebe/Washwood Heath/Bromford in the south ?
My Geography and memory is not very good, But certainly when I was at school this was more Claret than Blue.
I accept that Alum Rock, the place by the Tampon factory (I have forgotten the name) was a bit more Blue.
My first encounter with them was a 0-0 69-70, 54,000 in Villa Park I was 13 and on my own. In those days you paid at the gate, with no segregation.
My memory looking up from the bottom of the huge Holte End was seeing a line of police between the two fans.
Plenty of them on the Holte that day.
in the return game at the sty , 2-0 us, them in the ground early lobbing bricks and other treasured parts of the Kop down on queues of Villa fans waiting to pay.
Rioch,  McMahon, Kop rocking with Villa, Villa.
I a not sure where this imagination of them being the tuff guys and us being the bobble hat tossers comes from.
I can with great certainty attest that from the middle of the 70,s when they were supposed to be, tuff, tuff, tuff we were not cissies.
Anyone who remembers the pub haunts in town from that time would remember, the City was not theirs.
Them Gilded Cage and Windsor. Less said about intervention in the latter the better.
Times have changed, going to the football is not about who is toughest and that is the way it should be, support the team and be proud of your colours.
They cling to the memories of when they were in with a shout for being tuff, those days are gone but they have nothing else.
Am I obsessed with them, no, not until the week leading up to the game, then I wish all of the plagues of ancient Egypt on them.
I love an earlier posters suggestion that we should be singing about  Small Heath and not Birmingham.
It seemed to have traction at Sundays game.
This will boil their piss even more , love it.



Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 27, 2018, 07:29:42 PM
Childish and yet amusing.

https://twitter.com/jamieinstructor/status/1067172319980937216
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Damo70 on November 27, 2018, 07:35:03 PM
I spent eight years managing a betting shop on the border of Washwood Heath and Alum rock. My older punters tended to be middle aged/old aged white Small Heath fans. My younger punters tended to be Asian Villa fans. Which suggests to me that a mainly Blues area has over the years has become more of a Villa area. It also suggests to me that as well as Villa having a larger Asian fan base we probably are also picking up more younger fans than Small Heath.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: olaftab on November 27, 2018, 07:38:18 PM
Some answers :)
Is Ward end/Glebe/Washwood Heath/Bromford in the south ? No but sadly no longer Villa. Full of glory hunters.

I accept that Alum Rock, the place by the Tampon factory (I have forgotten the name) was a bit more Blue. The factory was Southalls now an empty site waiting any further development. Alum Rock is totally manu red and it boils my piss. >:(
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Post by: dave.woodhall on November 27, 2018, 07:45:55 PM
Quote
Sweepover
18:09, Tue 27 Nov
 Bluesince62
Christ, weve got to turn this thing round IMHO.

Where does the away team coach park ?.

I'm planning a warm welcome, them slags have had it easy at St Andrew's for far too long.

The return of the Proper old School Blues welcome.
The last white Taxi Man in all of England :-(

UP THE BLUES !.

But we're the racists and they're the muti-cultural liberals.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on November 27, 2018, 08:42:39 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z1PMVKpyIyg

This is a thing of beauty.  But go to the last five minutes if you want to hear all of the turgid stereotypes and hard luck stories for true comedy value.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 27, 2018, 08:48:59 PM
The video by the other one of them I thought was actually an ok watch. The one that does the video you posted is just always the same old shite.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on November 27, 2018, 08:56:09 PM
Solihull / Dorridge / Knowle aren’t the SHA strongholds people seem to think either. Obviously there’s a few around but not the younger generations - I run a kids football team with 11 players, only one of which is a Nose and I asked my son if there was much banter at school on Monday and he informed me that in the whole of his year at school, there isn’t a single Nose.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Brassneck on November 27, 2018, 09:00:41 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z1PMVKpyIyg

This is a thing of beauty.  But go to the last five minutes if you want to hear all of the turgid stereotypes and hard luck stories for true comedy value.

Great find.  I've been looking for this blokes videos since Sunday - He's changed his YT channel.

14 minutes without a single "Where's Glenroy?" Must be some kind of record.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Uknowthescore on November 27, 2018, 09:14:07 PM
https://twitter.com/will_stweet/status/1067514065898168321?s=21

Some alternate commentary
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Pvb1968 on November 27, 2018, 09:20:40 PM
The look on my mates face when I went into work last night said it all, it was like someone had stuck their fist up his arse and pulled his soul out, I didn't give it the big un and talked about the game because if your not a snivelling weasel that's what you do.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Damo70 on November 27, 2018, 09:40:46 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z1PMVKpyIyg

This is a thing of beauty.  But go to the last five minutes if you want to hear all of the turgid stereotypes and hard luck stories for true comedy value.


I love the pre match quote from one of them, "Look at the sky, it's blue and white not claret and blue"!

Yes boys, that's God having yet another little joke at your expense.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Exeter 77 on November 27, 2018, 09:44:27 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z1PMVKpyIyg

This is a thing of beauty.  But go to the last five minutes if you want to hear all of the turgid stereotypes and hard luck stories for true comedy value.

Great find.  I've been looking for this blokes videos since Sunday - He's changed his YT channel.

14 minutes without a single "Where's Glenroy?" Must be some kind of record.
I think I read somewhere Small Heath now employ him to make those videos which would explain the different channel name.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 27, 2018, 09:46:38 PM
That it's on the official small heath youtube channel is a clue  :P

Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Exeter 77 on November 27, 2018, 09:57:06 PM
That it's on the official small heath youtube channel is a clue  :P

That sort of makes it even funnier that they put that out as official content especially if you compare it to something unofficial like Villa On Tour which I think is produced by Max Stokes who is no more than eighteen.

I do wonder whether they let that completely deluded Adebola Bloke on it now it is official as I think he has or had a banning order.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Pat McMahon on November 27, 2018, 09:59:32 PM

I always thought that song was addressing the city rather than the club of the same name.
Don't think so. I think it's sung at them not about them but I don't want to be accused of picking hairs or splitting flies.

I agree with Adam, the first line is surely addressing Birmingham as a place and not them as a team.  Otherwise why would it then go on to mention "The City" later in the line?  None of our songs ever reference them as just "Birmingham" that I can recall.

Back in the 70s and early 80s when we were on MOTD or Star Soccer ( the days before mass coverage) there was a standard chant of “Birmingham, Birmingham can you hear us on the box”. For me it was definitely aimed at them, as is “Birmingham, are you listening”.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: astonvilla82 on November 27, 2018, 10:00:07 PM
What I like about thier videos is it must be sicking to see 40, 000 vile fans going ballistic in one of the best grounds in the country.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Ads on November 27, 2018, 10:01:08 PM
If you can find the alternate commentary of the game on Twitter it's well with your time!

The Smurf Army is a new one haha.

Lord Tin Pot is another amusing one.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Pat McMahon on November 27, 2018, 10:01:54 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z1PMVKpyIyg

This is a thing of beauty.  But go to the last five minutes if you want to hear all of the turgid stereotypes and hard luck stories for true comedy value.

Great find.  I've been looking for this blokes videos since Sunday - He's changed his YT channel.

14 minutes without a single "Where's Glenroy?" Must be some kind of record.
I think I read somewhere Small Heath now employ him to make those videos which would explain the different channel name.

I haven’t watched it yet but is it the bloke who used to do Davo’s diaries? I have found them quite entertaining in the past, though he must film the whole game and then edit, which is a shit way to enjoy any live event.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 27, 2018, 10:02:15 PM
What I like about thier videos is it must be sicking to see 40, 000 vile fans going ballistic in one of the best grounds in the country.

After 143 years you'd think that they'd be used to it by now.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 27, 2018, 10:03:25 PM
If you can find the alternate commentary of the game on Twitter it's well with your time!

You mean this a few posts above  ;D

https://twitter.com/will_stweet/status/1067514065898168321?s=21

Some alternate commentary

Smurf army!
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Ads on November 27, 2018, 10:04:29 PM
If you can find the alternate commentary of the game on Twitter it's well with your time!

You mean this a few posts above  ;D

https://twitter.com/will_stweet/status/1067514065898168321?s=21

Some alternate commentary

Smurf army!

Whoops!

Smurf Army has me chuckling.

Lord Tin Pot too haha
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 27, 2018, 10:05:30 PM
That it's on the official small heath youtube channel is a clue  :P

That sort of makes it even funnier that they put that out as official content especially if you compare it to something unofficial like Villa On Tour which I think is produced by Max Stokes who is no more than eighteen.

I do wonder whether they let that completely deluded Adebola Bloke on it now it is official as I think he has or had a banning order.

I think the last one I watched was the one where Hull twatted them and I did notice when watching this one that it was missing a few of their idiots and then saw it was 'official' which explained it.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: clash city rocker on November 27, 2018, 10:05:50 PM
At the end of the day in the pecking order they are slightly behind smethwick and slightly ahead of Walsall. That's their place.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Pat McMahon on November 27, 2018, 10:07:23 PM
https://twitter.com/will_stweet/status/1067514065898168321?s=21

Some alternate commentary

Brilliant!
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: clash city rocker on November 27, 2018, 10:15:27 PM
https://twitter.com/will_stweet/status/1067514065898168321?s=21

Some alternate commentary

Brilliant!

Ace
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Post by: VILLA MOLE on November 27, 2018, 10:26:01 PM
https://twitter.com/will_stweet/status/1067514065898168321?s=21

Some alternate commentary

Brilliant!

Ace


I feel a little bit sad for them 
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Post by: KRS on November 27, 2018, 11:13:17 PM
https://twitter.com/will_stweet/status/1067514065898168321?s=21

Some alternate commentary

Brilliant!

Ace


I feel a little bit sad for them 
Genuinely pant pissing hilarious! 😂
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: tomd2103 on November 28, 2018, 12:32:38 AM
I worked in a King's Heath school for a few years during MON's tenure, I would always get teased by the rags about them being bigger. So the easiest way to shut them up is ask them how they measure this, it would confuse the feck out of them.

Bigger stadium, perhaps?
Larger attendances at home or away?
Most years in the top flight?
Most league and cup wins?
Most players represented at international level?
Hosting semi-finals or international games?
How often are they on TV compared to "da villa"

You can go on and on but it overwhelms them so they retort with the old cliches about more fans and more pashun and being harder... they won't ever understand but they will keep right on and enjoy living in the shadows. We offer them a glimpse into a better life every once in a while and they seem to be happy with it, if they get lucky they might even get a goalless draw out of us.

Will soon be able to add Commonwealth Games venue to the list.  Funny how the organisers decided to overlook their ground when they are supposed to be the true representatives of Birmingham. 
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Post by: dave shelley on November 28, 2018, 09:31:46 AM
I have to get me some Alan Hutton wallpaper.
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Post by: Axl Rose on November 28, 2018, 10:12:36 AM
That it's on the official small heath youtube channel is a clue  :P

That sort of makes it even funnier that they put that out as official content especially if you compare it to something unofficial like Villa On Tour which I think is produced by Max Stokes who is no more than eighteen.

I do wonder whether they let that completely deluded Adebola Bloke on it now it is official as I think he has or had a banning order.

What an absolute scrotum that Adebola Bloke is. Imagine being related to him. How embarrassing.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on November 28, 2018, 01:45:33 PM
To be fair if you see some of the videos from the lower north there wasn't much class amongst our fans there.  They seemed to spend far more time watching and gesticulating to the Blues fans than they did the game.  And they seem very proud of on fb / twitter etc.  I always like to think we're a cut above, but the reality is we have our own bellends too.

And as for various peoples comments about them being obsessed and for us it's 'just another game,' a 9 page pisstake thread would suggest otherwise!

I can always go back to quoting Steve Bruce post match bullshit bingo cliches?
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on November 28, 2018, 01:47:43 PM
"why do them tossers get the rub of the green all the time against us why don’t just for once we get some luck , think back to Jerome heading the Underwood the bar and not going in if that was them it would have been given all the penalties given when blatantly aren’t pens that’s 3 in the last 3 games at vile pork they have had tosspots make me sick"

hahahahahahaha

Yes, because I am sure Enckleman and Sorensen (times two) deliberately threw the ball into the net those times.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on November 28, 2018, 01:54:33 PM
Don't forget these chunts launching thread after thread after thread and delighting in us going out of business in the summer.  Until late July that was...when the sunlit uplands returned.
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Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on November 28, 2018, 02:07:43 PM
At the end of the day in the pecking order they are slightly behind smethwick and slightly ahead of Walsall. That's their place.

They need to be looking over their shoulder at Solihull Moors.
I can see a similar situation to Leeds United and Farsley Celtic a few years ago. Farsley ( a district of Leeds) were punching above their weight and made it to the Conference for one season at the same time as Leeds went down to the 3rd division. Farsley won their first game of the season while Leeds had to start the season on minus 15 points. Leeds were the highest placed team in Leeds by something like just 26 places.
Imagine, Solihull Moors coming up challenging and even getting above Small Heath. Noses having to then use the excuse, " yeh but Solihull aint part of Birmingham so we still in the top two."   
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Post by: Brassneck on November 28, 2018, 02:24:38 PM
Solihull Moors is probably the local club to half of them.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 28, 2018, 02:35:05 PM
Whenever they spout their shit about all being from Birmingham and are all really hard as they throw and signs to each other in pubs in town while we sit in our Shire mansions always remember the absolute humiliation they must have felt as they listened to "olé" after "olé" as we took the piss out of them.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: andrew08 on November 28, 2018, 03:14:50 PM
https://twitter.com/will_stweet/status/1067514065898168321?s=21

Some alternate commentary

Brilliant!

Ace


I feel a little bit sad for them 
Genuinely pant pissing hilarious! 😂

Smurf Army😀😀😀
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Post by: The Edge on November 28, 2018, 03:24:55 PM
https://twitter.com/will_stweet/status/1067514065898168321?s=21

Some alternate commentary

Brilliant!

Ace


I feel a little bit sad for them 
Genuinely pant pissing hilarious! 😂

Smurf Army😀😀😀
That's funny. I nearly choked on my chips
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: The Edge on November 28, 2018, 03:42:35 PM
To be fair if you see some of the videos from the lower north there wasn't much class amongst our fans there.  They seemed to spend far more time watching and gesticulating to the Blues fans than they did the game.  And they seem very proud of on fb / twitter etc.  I always like to think we're a cut above, but the reality is we have our own bellends too.

And as for various peoples comments about them being obsessed and for us it's 'just another game,' a 9 page pisstake thread would suggest otherwise!

I can always go back to quoting Steve Bruce post match bullshit bingo cliches?
I think it's a good thing that those who go to the lower north do so to have a go back at goons like the ones blues bring. It definitely spices up the atmosphere. It's better than having a load of people with their kids getting abused all day like they used to. I've sat there when my lads were kids and it wasn't nice. Chris1 calling them bellends is a bit out of order imo.
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Post by: Brassneck on November 28, 2018, 03:51:42 PM
To be fair if you see some of the videos from the lower north there wasn't much class amongst our fans there.  They seemed to spend far more time watching and gesticulating to the Blues fans than they did the game.  And they seem very proud of on fb / twitter etc.  I always like to think we're a cut above, but the reality is we have our own bellends too.

And as for various peoples comments about them being obsessed and for us it's 'just another game,' a 9 page pisstake thread would suggest otherwise!

I can always go back to quoting Steve Bruce post match bullshit bingo cliches?
I think it's a good thing that those who go to the lower north do so to have a go back at goons like the ones blues bring. It definitely spices up the atmosphere. It's better than having a load of people with their kids getting abused all day like they used to. I've sat there when my lads were kids and it wasn't nice. Chris1 calling them bellends is out of order imo.

I disagree and although I probably did exactly the same myself when I was in my teens, I find it embarrassing now.

Why pay good money to watch and goad away fans?  More often than not, it only serves to get them going whereas otherwise, they'd be quiet.  I find it embarrassing, especially when teams like Burton visit.
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Post by: Drummond on November 28, 2018, 04:00:46 PM
To be fair if you see some of the videos from the lower north there wasn't much class amongst our fans there.  They seemed to spend far more time watching and gesticulating to the Blues fans than they did the game.  And they seem very proud of on fb / twitter etc.  I always like to think we're a cut above, but the reality is we have our own bellends too.

And as for various peoples comments about them being obsessed and for us it's 'just another game,' a 9 page pisstake thread would suggest otherwise!

I can always go back to quoting Steve Bruce post match bullshit bingo cliches?
I think it's a good thing that those who go to the lower north do so to have a go back at goons like the ones blues bring. It definitely spices up the atmosphere. It's better than having a load of people with their kids getting abused all day like they used to. I've sat there when my lads were kids and it wasn't nice. Chris1 calling them bellends is out of order imo.

I disagree and although I probably did exactly the same myself when I was in my teens, I find it embarrassing now.

Why pay good money to watch and goad away fans?  More often than not, it only serves to get them going whereas otherwise, they'd be quiet.  I find it embarrassing, especially when teams like Burton visit.

Because without it there'd be no atmosphere at football matches. The whole thing brings out the tribal instinct, us against them. I don't understand it when people don't enjoy a bit of banter or winding up the opposition .
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Post by: Brassneck on November 28, 2018, 04:05:37 PM
To be fair if you see some of the videos from the lower north there wasn't much class amongst our fans there.  They seemed to spend far more time watching and gesticulating to the Blues fans than they did the game.  And they seem very proud of on fb / twitter etc.  I always like to think we're a cut above, but the reality is we have our own bellends too.

And as for various peoples comments about them being obsessed and for us it's 'just another game,' a 9 page pisstake thread would suggest otherwise!

I can always go back to quoting Steve Bruce post match bullshit bingo cliches?
I think it's a good thing that those who go to the lower north do so to have a go back at goons like the ones blues bring. It definitely spices up the atmosphere. It's better than having a load of people with their kids getting abused all day like they used to. I've sat there when my lads were kids and it wasn't nice. Chris1 calling them bellends is out of order imo.

I disagree and although I probably did exactly the same myself when I was in my teens, I find it embarrassing now.

Why pay good money to watch and goad away fans?  More often than not, it only serves to get them going whereas otherwise, they'd be quiet.  I find it embarrassing, especially when teams like Burton visit.

Because without it there'd be no atmosphere at football matches. The whole thing brings out the tribal instinct, us against them. I don't understand it when people don't enjoy a bit of banter or winding up the opposition .

As I said, I probably did it myself when I was a teenager.

If you need a bunch of schoolkids mouthing off at you to create an atmosphere then you might as well not bother.  I personally find it annoying and certainly don't class it as banter or enjoyment. 

The Holte End seem to carry on OK without the need for the opposition fans to get them going.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on November 28, 2018, 04:11:58 PM
https://twitter.com/will_stweet/status/1067514065898168321?s=21

Some alternate commentary

Brilliant!

Ace


I feel a little bit sad for them 
Genuinely pant pissing hilarious! 😂

Smurf Army😀😀😀
That's funny. I nearly choked on my chips

"Legends of the game bust into tears, instantly ordering Alan Hutton wallpaper in what will go down as the most most Earth shattering moment in football since Micah Richards kicking a ball."
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Post by: dave shelley on November 28, 2018, 04:13:05 PM
The thing about modern-day Blues supporters bad mouthing us about where we come from.  I'm Brummie born and bred and, until the age of about ten I'd never gone beyond a ten mile radius of the centre of the place.

I would offer the opinion that I am one of tens of thousands of us.  They can go and do one.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 28, 2018, 04:25:55 PM
Beepity beep beep beep

"Being a 1 club city helps"

"Yep, so vile have ruined it for themselves, as well as us, by being the cuckoo in the nest of Brum. If they'd have stayed in Staffordshire like they originally were, we'd both be better off."
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: Damo70 on November 28, 2018, 05:52:07 PM
https://twitter.com/will_stweet/status/1067514065898168321?s=21

Some alternate commentary

Brilliant!

Ace


I feel a little bit sad for them 
Genuinely pant pissing hilarious! 😂

Smurf Army😀😀😀


It is indeed a fantastic and funny piece of video, the icing on the cake being the wonderful 'Smurf Army' reference. To the extent that I feel we should now replace calling them Small Heath with calling them The Smurf Army.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: amfy on November 28, 2018, 08:27:34 PM
Soooo.....if that shot that hit the post had gone in we couldn’t have come back from it eh?
Don’t think that’s aged well.
Title: Re: Moral Victories. We Never Get Any Luck.
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 29, 2018, 12:45:10 AM
We're jammy bastards because Forest had a player sent off. They weren't jammy bastards even though Millwall had a player sent off and their first was an own goal.
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