Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: andyh on November 14, 2018, 11:31:12 AM
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I suppose this should go in other football, but thought it might be interesting to a wider audience.
Premier league clubs are being asked to ‘donate’ £250,000.00 each to a kitty so that Richard Scudamore can have a £5m leaving present when he leaves his job.
I don’t know whether to laugh or cry.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46197761
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I’m glad we’re not in the PL this season. What a disgraceful request.
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Hardly surprising, the figures may be eye-watering to us but re-numeration like this happens all the time in big business, look at the recent bonus issue for the boss of Persimmon.
How much does any one person need to live? It's an age old question and "the richer you are the greedier you become" is equally aged.
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when lower league teams are being threatened with relegation because they don't have funds to upgrade changing rooms .
love that football family !!
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Fuck off.
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An obscene gesture which sums up what the Premier League has done to the beautiful game at the top level in this country during his tenure.
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He must have received a bonus for negotiating better deals. I don't see the need for him to get anything extra.
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You have to wonder of this was leaked to the media?
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Fuck off.
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when lower league teams are being threatened with relegation because they don't have funds to upgrade changing rooms .
love that football family !!
I was thinking similar when I heard this. That money could go to much better use than to someone who dosent really need or deserve it. It's nonsense.
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A five million quid leaving present. It sounds like someone has said "forget the engraved watch we will get him Big Ben instead"! Apparently there is a need to reward him for the money he has made for the premier League and it's clubs. A lot of us have made a lot of money for our various employers over the years. Usually the reward is just called 'wages' and if you are lucky a leaving card and a few rounds of drinks.
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Always thought he was a snake, one of the first to call football a product. Pat Murphy is giving him and the idea a real slating on Twitter
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Mr 39th game inventor go fuck yourself.
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A five million quid leaving present. It sounds like someone has said "forget the engraved watch we will get him Big Ben instead"! Apparently there is a need to reward him for the money he has made for the premier League and it's clubs. A lot of us have made a lot of money for our various employers over the years. Usually the reward is just called 'wages' and if you are lucky a leaving card and a few rounds of drinks.
But did he make the clubs that much richer? In the final shakeout it's the players and agents that got to be richer. Perhaps they should ask the players for a donation.
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True, less than a weeks wages for Raheem Sterling apparently. Meanwhile I’ll help clear the dog shit off the pitch before my son’s game on Sunday afternoon.
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A five million quid leaving present. It sounds like someone has said "forget the engraved watch we will get him Big Ben instead"! Apparently there is a need to reward him for the money he has made for the premier League and it's clubs. A lot of us have made a lot of money for our various employers over the years. Usually the reward is just called 'wages' and if you are lucky a leaving card and a few rounds of drinks.
But did he make the clubs that much richer? In the final shakeout it's the players and agents that got to be richer. Perhaps they should ask the players for a donation.
very good and valid point. Just like the clubs have to pay the fee of the players agent - he works for the player, he should pay it
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The clubs got a lot richer and gave it to the players and agents. The players and agents took advantage of market conditions where clubs paying 40m for a statistically average PL footballer became more the norm than the exception. Anyone who legitimately thought the TV deal would work it's way down to the grassroots of the game or to fans outside of token gestures was a mug. And the sad thing is, when we go up, it won't look a lot different.
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Mr 39th game inventor go fuck yourself.
It's not going to go away as Dinnage has no football connections and comes from Television industry.
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Lets not forget his mates will organise some plc non exec directorships for him to avoid boredom during his retirement on perhaps £100k+ a piece, he will probably get appointed to the board of some QUANGO and will also probably get appointed to conduct some quasi-governmental review into some spurious sporting issue or feasibility study for something like a bid for the Winter Olympics in Bognor Regis on some exorbitant rate. Not that I am jealous, its just that jobs for the boys in my World involves line marking for the village u15 team with a marker made in about 1920 and hoping the rain stops so the game goes ahead on Sunday etc etc! >:(
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I think us Villa folk should be big enough to come together over this.
So...I'll supply the envelope; who wants to contribute the turd?
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A five million quid leaving present. It sounds like someone has said "forget the engraved watch we will get him Big Ben instead"! Apparently there is a need to reward him for the money he has made for the premier League and it's clubs. A lot of us have made a lot of money for our various employers over the years. Usually the reward is just called 'wages' and if you are lucky a leaving card and a few rounds of drinks.
But did he make the clubs that much richer? In the final shakeout it's the players and agents that got to be richer. Perhaps they should ask the players for a donation.
very good and valid point. Just like the clubs have to pay the fee of the players agent - he works for the player, he should pay it
I've been saying this for years. Does my fucking head in!
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When I left Lloyds Bank in Selly Oak in 1983 I got a £5 record voucher and they paid for my curry down the Ladypool Rd. I sold myself short.
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He's a massive ******, I hope every club tells him to go fuck himself.
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If you want to know what is wrong with the professional game, you have to look no further than this piece of shit.
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He'll give it to charity though, won't he?
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Disgusting.
They'll be giving England caps away to has beens next.
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Typical that that idea has come via Bruce Buck and Chelsea. What an odious bag of ****** they are.
Fuck off indeed.
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This ridiculous fetishisation of loadsamoney in football and the mentions it receives, really has reached drinking game levels. We'll all end up with alcohol poisoning.
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Scumbledore is the c**t who ruined football more than almost anyone (Blatter maybe just edges that) and tired to completely sell it out with that 39th game bollocks. He got £2.5m a year for 19 years, what's another £5m to him? Another example of rich elites rewarding themselves for exploiting everyone else. 5m lashes would be more apt.
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Beeb
Outgoing executive chairman Richard Scudamore will receive a £5m farewell bonus paid by clubs, the Premier League has confirmed.
Scudamore will receive the payment over a three-year period "in recognition of his outstanding work".
He will remain with the Premier League in an advisory capacity.
It comes after football fans urged clubs not to "stick their hands down the back of the sofa" and contribute to Scudamore's departing gift.
Scudamore - who reportedly earns £2.5m per season - is stepping down in December after 19 years at the organisation.
The Premier League's UK television rights were valued at about £670m when Scudamore joined the organisation in 1999, while the most recent deal was worth £5.14bn.
All 20 Premier League clubs were asked by Chelsea chairman Bruce Buck for a £250,000 contribution - something which fans "strongly opposed".
"Premier League clubs have always told fan groups that budgets are planned in advance and there's not a surplus of cash lying around from their extremely lucrative TV deal," said the Football Supporters' Federation (FSF).
"In the meantime, loyal football supporters continue to be inconvenienced by fixture changes to fit TV schedules, often losing out on travel costs or struggling to get to and from games in the first place.
"Now it appears clubs can stick their hands down the back of the sofa and find £250,000 at a moment's notice."
On Tuesday, the Premier League announced that Susanna Dinnage will be its new chief executive.
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The more I read and hear about the PL, the less i want to be in it.
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It stinks but totally sums up the PL, absolutely detest it!
To think we might be joining it, excuse me while I go and puke!
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He'll end up with as many jobs as George Osborne...they even look like privileged,ugly cousins.
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He's a massive c***, I hope every club tells him to go fuck himself.
Beautifully put. I couldn't agree more.
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The more I read and hear about the PL, the less i want to be in it.
Same for me too. Well done to those clubs who refused to pay towards his retirement.
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The Guardian have given the decision plenty of stick, including this article.
Here is a handy memo to future historians of the national sport in this country. Note the date of 13 November 2018, because with the announcement of plans for Richard Scudamore’s parting gift of £5m – £250,000 to be volunteered by each Premier League club – it marks the formal end of football’s 140-year life as the people’s game.
Not that anyone will necessarily notice the difference. The whole point about modern football, a case in point being Manchester City’s alleged infractions of the Financial Fair Play rules, is that so much money is now involved, with its provenance repeatedly proving difficult if not impossible to track down, that there is little the ordinary guy in a striped scarf or replica shirt can do except shrug and hope the global concern he happens to support buys a better centre-forward than the opposition.
Football lost its soul yonks ago, if its soul had anything to do with working-class communities and a sense of pride in local identity. The only vestige of continuity left is the permanent surprise that something which within living memory was so cheap and freely available that in some cases it was quite hard to give away should have morphed into a magnet for petro-dollars and gated exclusivity.
Scudamore had plenty to do with that transformation, and on that basis alone he probably deserves the send-off his pal Bruce Buck is proposing. It is not the amount of cash that is problematic – with bonuses on top of his £2.5m salary the retiring executive chairman of the Premier League will most likely have pocketed similar sums in the past – but the ostentatious nature of the package sends out a terrible message to supporters struggling to meet the cost of their season ticket or grassroots organisations having to make do with inadequate facilities.
When the Premier League was first launched it was quickly dubbed “the greed is good league”, and though the evidence over the years has never been particularly difficult to spot, here is the final proof. The fact that every Premier League club can easily afford to chip in a quarter-of-a-million quid is in itself a powerful tribute to Scudamore’s success in raising income levels during his 19 years in charge – to put his mooted £5m pay-off into perspective every single club now receives almost twice that amount up front every time they have a match televised – but making such a public play of the demonstrable reality that everyone is now rolling in money is tasteless in the extreme.
It would have been better PR to present Scudamore with a carriage clock or port decanter and at least attempt to keep the financial settlement off centre stage. One fears, or rather one hopes, that next time a deserving cause such as Kick It Out or lower-league football make a pitch for a greater share of the Premier League’s undoubted wealth a whip-round of what amounts to petty cash for the big clubs will have to be made equally promptly.
A couple of decades ago, around the time Scudamore was settling in to his new job, in fact, the Premier League money-go-round was already travelling at remarkable speed and the standard reaction to whatever outrageous salary or transfer fee had just been agreed was to suppose that such exponential growth could not possibly last.
The bubble would burst, a tipping point would be reached, traditional support would turn away, not because the product was in decline – all too clearly it was in robust health – but because the sums of money were obscene, unrecognisable to the normal wage-earner, let alone anyone without a job. This never happened, and it is probably safe to say now that it never will.
Football has changed enormously in the last half-century, but the amount of money in the game has simply been accepted. If anything, it makes it more escapist and glamorous. Football has moved on from its working-class roots and is now seen as something impossible and aspirational, its participants as aloof and lavishly rewarded as film stars in the middle of the last century.
While he was working as manager of Derby County and coming to terms with the advent of the Premier League, Jim Smith was fond of saying the simple game he grew up with had evolved into a branch of showbiz. Clearly it did not stop there. Premier League football is now full-on Hollywood, for better or worse, and it might be worth remembering that when considering its boardroom excesses.
While openly boasting about wealth can never be a good look, the lesson of the last couple of weeks appears to be that no amount of financial grotesquery will result in audience alienation. The show goes on, at least as long as the product on the pitch remains worth watching.
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Mr Tumnus reckons “it’s very appropriate”. If he’s OK with it it must be OK.
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Scudamore will receive the payment over a three-year period "in recognition of his outstanding work".
So will whoever gets promoted be expected to contribute even though they had no part in the decision?
Or will the current members of the PL pay over the next 3 years irrespective of whether they get relegated or not?
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Uttrr disgrace. The outrage bus is justified.
Fuck Sky, fuck Scudamore, fuck the Premier League.
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Glad to see Ads finally waking up to the evils of Capitalism.
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This isn't capitalism. It's a ****** like Bruce Buck, in charge of an odious organisation- far more reprehensible than our neighbours and strong arming his cronies into coughing up. This isn't the market in action.
It's ****** like Buck, Levy and Shitbeard showing their utter contempt for the game. If we still have those TB infected badgers left over and the novelty trebuchet from when we fucked Bruce off, then if we could order some more sacks and get our launching arm loosened, that would be swell. And proportionate.
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Apparently, 5 clubs have refused to contribute.
Huddersfield, Wolves, Leicester, Burnley and Palace.
Fair play to them all.👏
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This isn't capitalism. It's a c*** like Bruce Buck, in charge of an odious organisation- far more reprehensible than our neighbours and strong arming his cronies into coughing up. This isn't the market in action.
It's c***s like Buck, Levy and Shitbeard showing their utter contempt for the game. If we still have those TB infected badgers left over and the novelty trebuchet from when we fucked Bruce off, then if we could order some more sacks and get our launching arm loosened, that would be swell. And proportionate.
Exactly. If it was a contractual part of his agreed salary, then fair enough, no argument, as the amounts involved are fairly paltry in the crazy world of football finance. But to do it as some kind of voluntary whip round almost beggars belief. Who on earth thought that that was a good idea?
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Leicester aside, those other clubs may have justifiably claimed that they haven't been part of the PL for enough of his tenure to help give him a goodbye-blowy.
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The chairman of Chelsea est.2003. It really isn't that surprising that they're looking after their mate. A card, a crate of Corona and some Celebrations from Tescos. Maybe a Colin the Catepillar cake if everybody has chipped in. Heck, I got one of my team a ukulele for £20.
But this is obscene. When the FA were desperately trying to.flog the National Stadium for cash.
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The Guardian make a good point, it might not be as bad if they weren't shouting from the bloody rooftops about it as if it's not only acceptable but wholly appropriate. It really does scream "greed is good" and "it's all about the money", and it's utterly tasteless and classless.
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let's not forget his cozying up to Thaksin Shinawatra ( Human Rights, fuck his country over, corrupt tax evader, all widely know at the time) when he was the owner of Man City. Something he should have been sacked for or at the very least reprimanded for.
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This isn't capitalism. It's a c*** like Bruce Buck, in charge of an odious organisation- far more reprehensible than our neighbours and strong arming his cronies into coughing up. This isn't the market in action.
It's c***s like Buck, Levy and Shitbeard showing their utter contempt for the game. If we still have those TB infected badgers left over and the novelty trebuchet from when we fucked Bruce off, then if we could order some more sacks and get our launching arm loosened, that would be swell. And proportionate.
That moment when you realise capitalism isn't about the free market
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Lets not forget his mates will organise some plc non exec directorships for him to avoid boredom during his retirement on perhaps £100k+ a piece, he will probably get appointed to the board of some QUANGO and will also probably get appointed to conduct some quasi-governmental review into some spurious sporting issue or feasibility study for something like a bid for the Winter Olympics in Bognor Regis on some exorbitant rate. Not that I am jealous, its just that jobs for the boys in my World involves line marking for the village u15 team with a marker made in about 1920 and hoping the rain stops so the game goes ahead on Sunday etc etc! >:(
The beauty of a masonic handshake - already been suggested he will be kept on by the FA asa consultant
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This isn't capitalism. It's a c*** like Bruce Buck, in charge of an odious organisation- far more reprehensible than our neighbours and strong arming his cronies into coughing up. This isn't the market in action.
It's c***s like Buck, Levy and Shitbeard showing their utter contempt for the game. If we still have those TB infected badgers left over and the novelty trebuchet from when we fucked Bruce off, then if we could order some more sacks and get our launching arm loosened, that would be swell. And proportionate.
It's capitalism. Nothing more, nothing less. I don't see why anyone should be any more enraged by this than they are by any other industry that awards its executives wages which could bankroll a small nation.
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I don't know how true this is but it seems Newcastle spent more on Scudamore than players this season!
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We need a second referendum-and a first one.
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It's corporate capitalism in action.
A corporation that monopolises its industry can do whatever it wants -fuck the free market, which barely exists any more, despite people endlessly invoking it, as if it did.
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Scudamore is a massive ******.
Not the most Wildean post ever made but felt it was worth repeating.
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Scudamore is a massive c***.
Not the most Wildean post ever made but felt it was worth repeating.
You could do it Hemingway-style:
"I obscenity in the milk of Scudamore's mother"
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Well, I dare say Richard Shedloadsmore will apply his expertise to help remedy this:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46236642
(I bet the government of the 5th richest country in the world wish they had a big diversion/distraction to take people's attention away from that...Oh, wait - there might be something...)
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I wonder how our current owners would fair with their corporate feet to the fire..?
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Scumbledore is the c**t who ruined football more than almost anyone (Blatter maybe just edges that) and tired to completely sell it out with that 39th game bollocks. He got £2.5m a year for 19 years, what's another £5m to him? Another example of rich elites rewarding themselves for exploiting everyone else. 5m lashes would be more apt.
You have to question all of those involved in handing the mandate to Scudamore and then continually backing him. Simon Jordan always speaks passionately and convincingly about the closed shop cartel of Scudamore and the Premier League's bigger clubs. He tried and failed to fight it from the inside. But Scudamore is still a relative angel compared to those who have ruled the game for many years. Reading Andrew Jennings expose book on FIFA, Joao Havelange and Sepp Blatter was a real eye opener for me. Even with some prior knowledge of FIFA's motivation and actions over the years it read like a barely believable far fetched novel.
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Not certain if it has been posted or if I am allowed to post?
https://www.change.org/p/give-scudamore-s-5m-golden-handshake-to-grassroots-football-in-britain-instead/w?source_location=petitions_share_skip
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Not certain if it has been posted or if I am allowed to post?
https://www.change.org/p/give-scudamore-s-5m-golden-handshake-to-grassroots-football-in-britain-instead/w?source_location=petitions_share_skip
Agree 100% with that article
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Fans and grassroot football all being *ucked royally.
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Scumbledore is the c**t who ruined football more than almost anyone (Blatter maybe just edges that) and tired to completely sell it out with that 39th game bollocks. He got £2.5m a year for 19 years, what's another £5m to him? Another example of rich elites rewarding themselves for exploiting everyone else. 5m lashes would be more apt.
Totally agree with this!!
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That pay-off is the equivalent of 34p for every time a person passed through a turnstile for a game in the Premier League last season.
£13 for each person that attended all 38 games.