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Title: Xia gone?
Post by: andyh on September 14, 2018, 04:44:14 PM
Someone just told me that a massive 54m movement of funds with Recon today.

The entry on companies house says

14 September  - cancellation of shares.

Anyone know what this might mean? Has Xia gone?
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: Chris Jameson on September 14, 2018, 04:58:43 PM
Hope it's him and not the new men.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: andyh on September 14, 2018, 05:00:06 PM
The entry is against Recon, not NSWE so that is Xia.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: dave shelley on September 14, 2018, 06:02:16 PM
If it is true then, thanks Dr Tone for your initial enthusiasm and for selling to ostensibly sensible new owners.  Any chance whatever your next venture is you can find a position for Bruce.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: cdbullyweefan on September 14, 2018, 06:13:31 PM
I still like him. Shame it never worked out.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: Newby on September 14, 2018, 07:48:19 PM
All's well that ends well, we hope.  Two more points to add: sack Bruce, get promoted.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: cdward on September 14, 2018, 08:03:17 PM
He chose the Cash Out option...
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: Damo70 on September 14, 2018, 08:28:02 PM
If it is true then, thanks Dr Tone for your initial enthusiasm and for selling to ostensibly sensible new owners.  Any chance whatever your next venture is you can find a position for Bruce.

To be fair I think we got lucky twice. We needed Dr T when he arrived as I don't think multi millionaires were queuing up around Villa Park to buy us and Randy had pretty much written us a 'Dear John letter'. We then needed our new owners when Dr T proved to be likeable but less competent than required.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: GarTomas on September 14, 2018, 08:35:21 PM
Link to companies house.
Cant find it on my phone amidst the number of vehicles in there!
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: BoVillan esq on September 14, 2018, 08:49:06 PM
If he has gone then this can only put more pressure on Bruce to go, put in place by Xia, not one of the new owners choice, he can't lose or draw many more games, that for sure.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: andyh on September 14, 2018, 08:53:33 PM
Link to companies house.
Cant find it on my phone amidst the number of vehicles in there!

Someone has posted the entry on twitter.

https://twitter.com/deadly_doug/status/1040655721254268928?s=21
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: Sexual Ealing on September 14, 2018, 10:00:11 PM
Link to companies house.
Cant find it on my phone amidst the number of vehicles in there!

Someone has posted the entry on twitter.

https://twitter.com/deadly_doug/status/1040655721254268928?s=21

I strongly object to the cutesy nicknames for average 90s indie bands in that account's bio.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: Bren'd on September 14, 2018, 11:29:43 PM
Ill miss the Posts where some would try to unravel his Emoji filled tweets.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: VinnieChase84 on September 15, 2018, 10:42:54 AM
Xia has definitely been bought out entirely. His share was only allocated as 55m on recon side of ownership. With this being cancelled it means we have no ownership in the recon part anymore. Can only mean one thing
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: Clark W Griswold on September 15, 2018, 10:48:19 AM
Yep, I've got no malice against the guy and wish him well.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: Lastfootstamper on September 15, 2018, 10:51:29 AM
Has the flag gone?
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: Chinchilla Bathhouse on September 15, 2018, 11:04:39 AM
Before he leaves the building has anyone checked if he can play in central defence?
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: GordonCowansisthegreatest on September 15, 2018, 11:09:04 AM
5 foot 6.............

Why not!
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: Monty on September 15, 2018, 11:34:09 AM
Yep, he did his best and left with the club in apparently decent hands. Fair enough.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: john e on September 15, 2018, 11:42:40 AM
he was always a bit of a mystery man and I think no matter what happened on the pitch
 we would have run into trouble at some point

but you are only as good as the people you employ and he employed RDM, Bruce and Wyness
three massive hopeless mistakes and the run towards bankruptcy became a possibility

Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: villasjf on September 15, 2018, 11:48:00 AM
If he has gone can we have bodymoor heath back and bin the recon sign?
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: Damo70 on September 15, 2018, 11:53:57 AM
Before he leaves the building has anyone checked if he can play in central defence?

If he can play in central defence we will end up playing him at full back.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: ktvillan on September 15, 2018, 11:58:22 AM
Before he leaves the building has anyone checked if he can play in central defence?

If he can play in central defence we will end up playing him at full back.

My thoughts exactly.  If he's 5'6" though he would be up front trying to win long balls pumped up to him.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: olaftab on September 15, 2018, 12:16:12 PM
Can someone express this  news in Xia's famous transfer tweet style?
I wish him success in everything else he does.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: The Edge on September 15, 2018, 12:22:26 PM
Thanks for trying Dr Tony. Left us with some nice memories. Shame it didn't work out. Good luck in the future. Hopefully you will be a villa fan for life. 
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: cdward on September 15, 2018, 12:43:04 PM
compared to some football club owners, he was never the worst. At least he backed his managers in each transfer window.
I preferred him to Randy Lerner, and Doug Ellis if Im honest. At least he never took us for fools.
Good luck Dr Tony, Im sure well hear more of him in years to come.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: themossman on September 15, 2018, 12:46:12 PM
Yep, he did his best and left with the club in apparently decent hands. Fair enough.

This. In the rogues gallery of recent managers and owners he is nowhere near the worst of them.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: dave.woodhall on September 15, 2018, 01:14:28 PM
Is this the same Tony Xia who took us to the brink of administration?
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: Mossie Hennebry on September 15, 2018, 01:17:34 PM
I never liked him. I especially didn't like the emoji-filled tweets.

Was he not proven to be a charlatan? Borrowed against getting into the PL and when that didn't work, the big boys turned off the credit? He would have been exposed, promotion or not, when his backers went looking for a return on their investment. His doctorate was also questionable. He was closer to a snake oil salesman than anything.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: cdbullyweefan on September 15, 2018, 01:18:30 PM
Yes, he gambled everything on promotion. It didn't quite work. Luckily, we are too big to fail so it might not affect us too badly after all.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: Meanwood Villa on September 15, 2018, 01:41:32 PM
I think without all the money spent under his stewardship we'd have been heading towards League 1. Unfortunately it appears it wasn't his money to spend.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: sickbeggar on September 15, 2018, 01:49:07 PM
I think without all the money spent under his stewardship we'd have been heading towards League 1. Unfortunately it appears it wasn't his money to spend.

I tend to agree. He had nothing to do with our relegation and the accounts show he did a lot to bring down the wage bill but it was probably too far gone by then. Its like if you buy a car and the previous owner has totally driven it into the ground so you can't afford the repair bills. Now you can say you were foolish for buying it, but the fact its a complete wreck isn't down to you really. Only thing you can really lay at his door is employing Bruce.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: Mossie Hennebry on September 15, 2018, 01:55:09 PM
Questions remain around his doctorate, his source of wealth, his actual wealth and the success of his non-footballing business.

Promotion or not, we would have been in trouble with this charlatan eventually.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: saunders_heroes on September 15, 2018, 04:49:14 PM
Questions remain around his doctorate, his source of wealth, his actual wealth and the success of his non-footballing business.

Promotion or not, we would have been in trouble with this charlatan eventually.

Spot on. And this man nearly finished us as well. I hope its true and hes out of here.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: Jon Crofts on September 15, 2018, 06:16:22 PM
Is this the same Tony Xia who took us to the brink of administration?

The very same, I dont get the love in, he was naive at best and downright dangerous at worst.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: pauliewalnuts on September 15, 2018, 06:43:20 PM
Is this the same Tony Xia who took us to the brink of administration?

The very same, I dont get the love in, he was naive at best and downright dangerous at worst.

Totally agree.

Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: Rigadon on September 15, 2018, 06:46:40 PM
Me too.  Never sure about Xia and if he hadn't been bailed out by the new people we would be in deep shit.  Bye bye. 
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: Risso on September 15, 2018, 06:52:35 PM
I can't see that Xia deserves any credit at all.  He was lucky that he found two people willing to buy him out, after he'd made a complete pig's arse of everything.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: wittonwarrior on September 15, 2018, 09:38:04 PM
 I wanted to lynch him/hang him and stone him in a gravel pit come June 2018.  He reminds me of that young fella at Aldershot or the Man Utd bloke who juggled the ball on the pitch first game of the season.

Potentially a very dangerous man with regards to our history - somehow the great gods got us out of the mess he help create.

May still have issues such as Wynass's dismissal claim to tackle though.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: PeterWithe on September 15, 2018, 09:45:29 PM
He came, he saw, and had some posting about starting again in the Beezer Homes League.

Good fucking riddance.  Those shoes were unforgivable.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: dave.woodhall on September 15, 2018, 09:50:33 PM
He came, he left. We didn't know why he arrived, what he wanted, whether he was as rich as Walnuts or as skint as I am, where the money came from, how close to the edge he left us. We didn't even know how to pronounce his name.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: curiousorange on September 15, 2018, 10:08:29 PM
Complete chancer. Eventually he'll have been shown up for what he is so thank the Lord we managed to fast forward through it.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: Fred Crump on September 15, 2018, 10:16:16 PM
I think hes already been shown up for what he is. The shoes were the give away.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: West Derby Villan on September 15, 2018, 10:58:46 PM
He's gone,we got lucky!
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: Des Little on September 15, 2018, 11:46:20 PM
On his first day I saw his suit and knew he wasnt legit. Looked liked hed borrowed off his long armed mate
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: in exile on September 16, 2018, 12:08:17 PM
He's gone,we got lucky!

Has he gone?
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on September 16, 2018, 12:35:06 PM

Questions remain around his doctorate, his source of wealth, his actual wealth and the success of his non-footballing business

I'm just sorry that Walter Mitty failed in his 5 year plan for Villa. Good riddance.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: Smoke on September 16, 2018, 05:14:28 PM
On his first day I saw his suit and knew he wasnt legit. Looked liked hed borrowed off his long armed mate

In fairness, Our first look at the current billionaires they weren't exactly dripping in Armani and style.

However they are undoubtedly absolutely minted. Thank fuck.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: simboy on September 16, 2018, 05:46:16 PM
In 15 years time someone will suggest a minutes applause in the 8th minute for the man and business that almost saw the most famous football club in the world out of business. Well he wasnt so bad was he?

Good riddence.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: aj2k77 on September 16, 2018, 06:00:59 PM
Shit chancer with no clue as to what he was doing. He took us to the brink, he can fuck right off and carry on some after that. Disgrace.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: Damo70 on September 16, 2018, 06:53:06 PM
He strikes me as someone who might return to English football and have another crack at a club lower down the pyramid and leave them in an even worse state than he did with us.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: ktvillan on September 22, 2018, 09:23:10 PM
Sorry if this has been covered elsewhere but seems Xia isn't gone.

https://www.waste of paper.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/xia-aston-villa-takeover-sawiris-15181698
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: HK Villan on September 23, 2018, 08:36:06 AM
I never trusted Xia from Day 1.  No transparency, questionable 'facts', and ridiculous statements of intent.  But he did OK for a while and like others I warmed to him a bit.  But I have no doubt we are in better hands now.  A silver lining to the playoff defeat, if that's possible.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: Drummond on September 24, 2018, 02:34:28 PM
Shit chancer with no clue as to what he was doing. He took us to the brink, he can fuck right off and carry on some after that. Disgrace.

Bizarrely I read that as 'Shit dancer with no clue as to what he was doing.'

Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: mr underhill on September 25, 2018, 07:22:17 AM
Our current board's total silence almost makes me yearn for the Dr's weird  hieroglyphics and shit
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: Ads on September 25, 2018, 08:30:52 AM
They made a comment yesterday about securing Grealish.

Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: mr underhill on September 25, 2018, 09:06:22 AM
I was indirectly referring to Bruce
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: Clampy on September 25, 2018, 09:34:12 AM
What do you want them to say though? They're not going to come out and say he's under pressure, no club does that and if they came out and backed him, it would just be seen as the dreaded vote of confidence. They'll act when they decide it's time.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: mr underhill on September 25, 2018, 11:23:19 AM
To tell you to stop posting shite.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: avfcpg on September 25, 2018, 11:56:05 AM
Hopefully they'll have something to say Friday night if we get beaten or fail to win.
It's more depressing than anything to go into a game where I (and I'm pretty sure I'm not alone) am half hoping we get beat to put that final nail in...a step back to get further forward. It's because I love my club that I/we think that way...not because I should never hope Villa lose being a Villa fan.
I'm one of the "less intelligent" one's that Bruce refers to....we knew that what few victories & draws we gained just papered over the ever increasing cracks. We know we're never going to go on a massive winning streak and we also know that he's never going to, well actually can't change.
I sit here just thinking, surely the new owners can see this....
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: Clampy on September 25, 2018, 12:04:13 PM
To tell you to stop posting shite.

Thanks for the well thought out reply but like I said, what do you want them to say? I think his time is up as well but the next statement will either be a vote of confidence or one telling us he's gone. I'm not sure we can expect anything else in between.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: Drummond on September 25, 2018, 12:05:48 PM
I was indirectly referring to Bruce

On the Xia thread. It was obvious.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: paul_e on September 25, 2018, 02:21:48 PM
What do you want them to say though? They're not going to come out and say he's under pressure, no club does that and if they came out and backed him, it would just be seen as the dreaded vote of confidence. They'll act when they decide it's time.

Not specific to Bruce but I'd like to see a fluff piece from Purslow.  It's not important and really wouldn't tell us anything but I find it strange that he's been here for about a month and we've not heard anything from him about how the club is, etc.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: Drummond on September 25, 2018, 03:40:09 PM
And then people would moan it's a fluff piece that says nothing.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: paul_e on September 25, 2018, 04:31:20 PM
And then people would moan it's a fluff piece that says nothing.

Of course they will, "we need a statement" followed by "don't tell me, show me" (usually by the same people) is like night follows day. It doesn't mean it wouldn't be good to hear something from him soon about what he thinks of the club and what his ambitions are.  The 2nd of those 2 regular comments is probably why we haven't heard anything because the last 5-6 board members/owners who claimed any ambition got it.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: Clampy on September 25, 2018, 04:44:23 PM
I'm sure there will be an interview soon, there normally is when someone new comes in but maybe they're waiting to see how future results go. It would be a bit unwise to have an interview outlining his plans whilst Bruce is here only to let him go a week or two later.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: RussellC on September 25, 2018, 04:52:27 PM
That's how
I'm sure there will be an interview soon, there normally is when someone new comes in but maybe they're waiting to see how future results go. It would be a bit unwise to have an interview outlining his plans whilst Bruce is here only to let him go a week or two later.

That's how I read the situation too. I think had we won the last 3 matches there'd have been an 'in depth' interview with Purslow up on the Youtube Channel by now.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: john e on September 25, 2018, 07:32:20 PM
I'm sure there will be an interview soon, there normally is when someone new comes in but maybe they're waiting to see how future results go. It would be a bit unwise to have an interview outlining his plans whilst Bruce is here only to let him go a week or two later.

Sounds sensible
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: paul_e on September 26, 2018, 12:05:52 AM
That's largely what i was getting at. I suspect he'll stay quiet until there's something the fans like that comes out. Resigning Jack could've been it if there wasn't so much noise around Bruce.

If he's sensible he'll be waiting for a "this is just the start" event as his 'show me'.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: Drummond on September 26, 2018, 10:25:42 AM
That's largely what i was getting at. I suspect he'll stay quiet until there's something the fans like that comes out. Resigning Jack could've been it if there wasn't so much noise around Bruce.

If he's sensible he'll be waiting for a "this is just the start" event as his 'show me'.

Yet only a handful of posts earlier you say you want a fluff piece from him?
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: paul_e on September 26, 2018, 01:12:19 PM
That's largely what i was getting at. I suspect he'll stay quiet until there's something the fans like that comes out. Resigning Jack could've been it if there wasn't so much noise around Bruce.

If he's sensible he'll be waiting for a "this is just the start" event as his 'show me'.

Yet only a handful of posts earlier you say you want a fluff piece from him?

Is the difference between "I'd like" and "I suspect" really so confusing?

I'd like a fluff piece because I think it's right for fans to hear the CEO speak as early as possible, even if it's inconsequential. However I don't think we'll get one because too many fans will moan if they hear from him before something significant happens and I'd guess the club knows that.  If things had been going better on the pitch I suspect we'd have heard from him when Grealish signed his new deal, with a "we want to keep our best young players and build a team around them" speech but because Bruce is on such shaky ground the club know that anything like that they put out would be met by comments calling for Bruce to be sacked.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: RussellC on September 26, 2018, 01:42:07 PM
There was a very short tweet from the Club, pretty much exactly as per your post Paul;


(https://thumb.ibb.co/mAi4e9/Purslow.png) (https://ibb.co/mAi4e9)
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: CT Villan on September 26, 2018, 02:04:29 PM
I'd like his first interview to be...

"I really didn't have a choice. The results and performances have not been good enough and it was time to make a change. We thank Steve for his efforts and wish him well for the future."

Is that fluffy enough ? :)
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: paul_e on September 26, 2018, 02:05:27 PM
There was a very short tweet from the Club, pretty much exactly as per your post Paul;


(https://thumb.ibb.co/mAi4e9/Purslow.png) (https://ibb.co/mAi4e9)


ah I'd missed that but I think it still holds true that we haven't had the 'such a big club, so much potential, we want to make the most of it' statement that you'd expect.

The main reason I want to see something fairly light is that, for me, seeing someone talk in an informal way tells you a lot about them as a person, I never warmed to Wyness because in his early stuff he came across as a bit of a tit.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: Drummond on September 26, 2018, 02:09:18 PM
That's largely what i was getting at. I suspect he'll stay quiet until there's something the fans like that comes out. Resigning Jack could've been it if there wasn't so much noise around Bruce.

If he's sensible he'll be waiting for a "this is just the start" event as his 'show me'.

Yet only a handful of posts earlier you say you want a fluff piece from him?

Is the difference between "I'd like" and "I suspect" really so confusing?

I'd like a fluff piece because I think it's right for fans to hear the CEO speak as early as possible, even if it's inconsequential. However I don't think we'll get one because too many fans will moan if they hear from him before something significant happens and I'd guess the club knows that.  If things had been going better on the pitch I suspect we'd have heard from him when Grealish signed his new deal, with a "we want to keep our best young players and build a team around them" speech but because Bruce is on such shaky ground the club know that anything like that they put out would be met by comments calling for Bruce to be sacked.

Ok. So you want him to do something that isn't sensible. Brilliant. Now I understand completely.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: paul_e on September 26, 2018, 02:12:50 PM
I'd like his first interview to be...

"I really didn't have a choice. The results and performances have not been good enough and it was time to make a change. We thank Steve for his efforts and wish him well for the future."

Is that fluffy enough ? :)

I suspect that's exactly what it will be.  What I mean by fluff is things like watching football as a kid and how great the training ground was when he first visited. It's all meaningless but, just like a job interview, you can learn a lot more about someone from things like that than you will be looking at their CV or asking them about how they see things going in the next 5 years.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: paul_e on September 26, 2018, 02:15:49 PM
That's largely what i was getting at. I suspect he'll stay quiet until there's something the fans like that comes out. Resigning Jack could've been it if there wasn't so much noise around Bruce.

If he's sensible he'll be waiting for a "this is just the start" event as his 'show me'.

Yet only a handful of posts earlier you say you want a fluff piece from him?

Is the difference between "I'd like" and "I suspect" really so confusing?

I'd like a fluff piece because I think it's right for fans to hear the CEO speak as early as possible, even if it's inconsequential. However I don't think we'll get one because too many fans will moan if they hear from him before something significant happens and I'd guess the club knows that.  If things had been going better on the pitch I suspect we'd have heard from him when Grealish signed his new deal, with a "we want to keep our best young players and build a team around them" speech but because Bruce is on such shaky ground the club know that anything like that they put out would be met by comments calling for Bruce to be sacked.

Ok. So you want him to do something that isn't sensible. Brilliant. Now I understand completely.

Yes, I'm glad you've managed to work it out eventually that what I'd like to see doesn't have to be what happens or even what would be the best thing to do given the current situation. I was afraid that I was going to have to explain and be accused of being patronising.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: Clampy on September 26, 2018, 02:22:11 PM
I'd like his first interview to be...

"I really didn't have a choice. The results and performances have not been good enough and it was time to make a change. We thank Steve for his efforts and wish him well for the future."

Is that fluffy enough ? :)

I suspect that's exactly what it will be.  What I mean by fluff is things like watching football as a kid and how great the training ground was when he first visited. It's all meaningless but, just like a job interview, you can learn a lot more about someone from things like that than you will be looking at their CV or asking them about how they see things going in the next 5 years.

I don't see what the point would have been personally. I can imagine the abuse the club would have got on Social Media if they've had posted up an interview telling us meaningless tit bits about his favourite ground, what biscuits he likes with his tea etc. It would have pretty pointless. Harmless, but pointless.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: Drummond on September 26, 2018, 02:32:49 PM
That's largely what i was getting at. I suspect he'll stay quiet until there's something the fans like that comes out. Resigning Jack could've been it if there wasn't so much noise around Bruce.

If he's sensible he'll be waiting for a "this is just the start" event as his 'show me'.

Yet only a handful of posts earlier you say you want a fluff piece from him?

Is the difference between "I'd like" and "I suspect" really so confusing?

I'd like a fluff piece because I think it's right for fans to hear the CEO speak as early as possible, even if it's inconsequential. However I don't think we'll get one because too many fans will moan if they hear from him before something significant happens and I'd guess the club knows that.  If things had been going better on the pitch I suspect we'd have heard from him when Grealish signed his new deal, with a "we want to keep our best young players and build a team around them" speech but because Bruce is on such shaky ground the club know that anything like that they put out would be met by comments calling for Bruce to be sacked.

Ok. So you want him to do something that isn't sensible. Brilliant. Now I understand completely.

Yes, I'm glad you've managed to work it out eventually that what I'd like to see doesn't have to be what happens or even what would be the best thing to do given the current situation. I was afraid that I was going to have to explain and be accused of being patronising.

Quite how anyone would say they'd like to see something that doesn't make sense and wouldn't be in the best interests of the club is beyond me. It's a nonsensical approach. Next you'll be saying you'd like to keep Bruce, sell Grealish, put seat prices up 100% and stop selling beer and pies on matchdays.

Is it any surprise it took a while to work out?
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: paul_e on September 26, 2018, 02:34:09 PM
That's largely what i was getting at. I suspect he'll stay quiet until there's something the fans like that comes out. Resigning Jack could've been it if there wasn't so much noise around Bruce.

If he's sensible he'll be waiting for a "this is just the start" event as his 'show me'.

Yet only a handful of posts earlier you say you want a fluff piece from him?

Is the difference between "I'd like" and "I suspect" really so confusing?

I'd like a fluff piece because I think it's right for fans to hear the CEO speak as early as possible, even if it's inconsequential. However I don't think we'll get one because too many fans will moan if they hear from him before something significant happens and I'd guess the club knows that.  If things had been going better on the pitch I suspect we'd have heard from him when Grealish signed his new deal, with a "we want to keep our best young players and build a team around them" speech but because Bruce is on such shaky ground the club know that anything like that they put out would be met by comments calling for Bruce to be sacked.

Ok. So you want him to do something that isn't sensible. Brilliant. Now I understand completely.

Yes, I'm glad you've managed to work it out eventually that what I'd like to see doesn't have to be what happens or even what would be the best thing to do given the current situation. I was afraid that I was going to have to explain and be accused of being patronising.

Quite how anyone would say they'd like to see something that doesn't make sense and wouldn't be in the best interests of the club is beyond me. It's a nonsensical approach. Next you'll be saying you'd like to keep Bruce, sell Grealish, put seat prices up 100% and stop selling beer and pies on matchdays.

Is it any surprise it took a while to work out?

It took a while for you to work out, no one else seems to care.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: RussellC on September 26, 2018, 02:38:16 PM
I'm sure the club could have reeled out a "Happy to be at this great club and focused on the task at hand" type soundbite, without opening themselves up to abuse. As it is, the silence is - in itself - a cause of suspicion, as this very conversation proves. Especially as they've bothered to quote him on Jack's contract extension, and that he was in the photo with SB when Abraham signed.

We know that Villa's in-house Social media team are pretty 'on the ball' these days, so there's obviously a strategic reason behind them not rolling out the full YouTube welcome mat for Purlsow.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: paul_e on September 26, 2018, 02:51:22 PM
I'm sure the club could have reeled out a "Happy to be at this great club and focused on the task at hand" type soundbite, without opening themselves up to abuse. As it is, the silence is - in itself - a cause of suspicion, as this very conversation proves. Especially as they've bothered to quote him on Jack's contract extension, and that he was in the photo with SB when Abraham signed.

We know that Villa's in-house Social media team are pretty 'on the ball' these days, so there's obviously a strategic reason behind them not rolling out the full YouTube welcome mat for Purlsow.

Exactly. It's a no win situation because whatever they do some fans will be pissed off. I've explained why I like those 'welcome' interviews but I don't expect everyone to agree with me.

As for the strategic reason at a guess I think they're waiting until the sporting director is in place and they've made a decision on Bruce. I really wouldn't surprise me if we get lots of the social media friendly stuff in a big release over 2-3 weeks once everything is sorted.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: b23 on September 26, 2018, 05:30:10 PM
That's largely what i was getting at. I suspect he'll stay quiet until there's something the fans like that comes out. Resigning Jack could've been it if there wasn't so much noise around Bruce.

If he's sensible he'll be waiting for a "this is just the start" event as his 'show me'.

Yet only a handful of posts earlier you say you want a fluff piece from him?

Is the difference between "I'd like" and "I suspect" really so confusing?

I'd like a fluff piece because I think it's right for fans to hear the CEO speak as early as possible, even if it's inconsequential. However I don't think we'll get one because too many fans will moan if they hear from him before something significant happens and I'd guess the club knows that.  If things had been going better on the pitch I suspect we'd have heard from him when Grealish signed his new deal, with a "we want to keep our best young players and build a team around them" speech but because Bruce is on such shaky ground the club know that anything like that they put out would be met by comments calling for Bruce to be sacked.

Ok. So you want him to do something that isn't sensible. Brilliant. Now I understand completely.

Yes, I'm glad you've managed to work it out eventually that what I'd like to see doesn't have to be what happens or even what would be the best thing to do given the current situation. I was afraid that I was going to have to explain and be accused of being patronising.

Quite how anyone would say they'd like to see something that doesn't make sense and wouldn't be in the best interests of the club is beyond me. It's a nonsensical approach. Next you'll be saying you'd like to keep Bruce, sell Grealish, put seat prices up 100% and stop selling beer and pies on matchdays.

Is it any surprise it took a while to work out?

It took a while for you to work out, no one else seems to care.

Everyone likes a bit of fluff, don't they ?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p05d6bgh
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: passport1 on September 26, 2018, 05:53:30 PM
Not Arf
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: Drummond on September 26, 2018, 10:27:38 PM
That's largely what i was getting at. I suspect he'll stay quiet until there's something the fans like that comes out. Resigning Jack could've been it if there wasn't so much noise around Bruce.

If he's sensible he'll be waiting for a "this is just the start" event as his 'show me'.

Yet only a handful of posts earlier you say you want a fluff piece from him?

Is the difference between "I'd like" and "I suspect" really so confusing?

I'd like a fluff piece because I think it's right for fans to hear the CEO speak as early as possible, even if it's inconsequential. However I don't think we'll get one because too many fans will moan if they hear from him before something significant happens and I'd guess the club knows that.  If things had been going better on the pitch I suspect we'd have heard from him when Grealish signed his new deal, with a "we want to keep our best young players and build a team around them" speech but because Bruce is on such shaky ground the club know that anything like that they put out would be met by comments calling for Bruce to be sacked.

Ok. So you want him to do something that isn't sensible. Brilliant. Now I understand completely.

Yes, I'm glad you've managed to work it out eventually that what I'd like to see doesn't have to be what happens or even what would be the best thing to do given the current situation. I was afraid that I was going to have to explain and be accused of being patronising.

Quite how anyone would say they'd like to see something that doesn't make sense and wouldn't be in the best interests of the club is beyond me. It's a nonsensical approach. Next you'll be saying you'd like to keep Bruce, sell Grealish, put seat prices up 100% and stop selling beer and pies on matchdays.

Is it any surprise it took a while to work out?

It took a while for you to work out, no one else seems to care.

No, perhaps I should ignore you too.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: paul_e on September 26, 2018, 10:37:30 PM
No, perhaps I should ignore you too.

Look, you're just not my type, get over it.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: Drummond on September 27, 2018, 08:29:43 AM
No, perhaps I should ignore you too.

Look, you're just not my type, get over it.

Oh but Paul, I don't think I could possibly love you more than you love yourself.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: Risso on September 27, 2018, 09:15:46 AM
Any chance of giving it a rest?
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: Drummond on September 27, 2018, 09:21:45 AM
Any chance of giving it a rest?

For you, anything.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: paul_e on September 27, 2018, 11:50:53 AM
No, perhaps I should ignore you too.

Look, you're just not my type, get over it.

Oh but Paul, I don't think I could possibly love you more than you love yourself.

It's ironic that you ended this by doing exactly what you were accusing me of doing by contradicting yourself.

However I agree with Risso, the whole thing is pretty tedious and I stil ldon't really get why you felt the need to start it so I'll leave the thread alone for a bit.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: wozwebs on October 11, 2018, 11:12:35 AM
Note that the Recon Training Complex signs have been removed and its back to Bodymoor Heath now at the training ground. Sky Sports reporter outside. Hes totally gone hasnt he?

New entrance to it by the looks also.

https://twitter.com/kirstyedwards3/status/1050297038225793024?s=21
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: Hookeysmith on October 11, 2018, 11:58:55 AM
Note that the Recon Training Complex signs have been removed and it’s back to Bodymoor Heath now at the training ground. Sky Sports reporter outside. He’s totally gone hasn’t he?

New entrance to it by the looks also.

https://twitter.com/kirstyedwards3/status/1050297038225793024?s=21

wouldn't mind seeing her entrance !
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: Villafirst on October 11, 2018, 05:56:49 PM
I understand Tony has fucked up again with his latest tweet which mentions JT only - welcoming him back and reckons he'll go on to be a great Manager. But, no mention of Deano! How disrespectful is that? NSWE need to buy him out of the club. A complete idiot!
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: auntiesledd on October 11, 2018, 06:30:48 PM
For Recon read RE:CON.

I sincerely hope the delusional Xia will sell up now & sod off.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on October 11, 2018, 09:19:07 PM
The bloke is a grade A cock.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: Billy Walker on November 26, 2018, 10:33:21 AM
Not sure if this is the right thread to put this in but Jim White, currently on Talksport right now, said he was at Villa Park yesterday as a guest of Christian Purslow.  He hinted that it's possible more investors are looking to come on board.  He will be talking more about Villa later.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: mr underhill on November 26, 2018, 11:46:03 AM
Purslow's just gone down in my estimation - friends with Jim White? FFS!
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: Clampy on January 08, 2019, 04:28:17 PM
Looks like he's finally gone according to companies house.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: TheMalandro on January 08, 2019, 04:49:28 PM
Looks like he's finally gone according to companies house.

I hope we get a letter on the OS.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: TheMalandro on January 08, 2019, 04:54:20 PM
Where did you see that btw? Looks active on mine.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: Bren'd on January 08, 2019, 05:38:51 PM
Looks like he's finally gone according to companies house.

I hope we get a letter on the OS.

Ill only believe it when the flag on the Witton lane stand no longer flys.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: hilts_coolerking on January 08, 2019, 05:40:25 PM
Must admit I'd forgotten all about him.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: ChicagoLion on January 08, 2019, 05:42:52 PM
OMsG..
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: passport1 on January 08, 2019, 05:55:16 PM
He certainly left his mark on our club.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: brian green on January 08, 2019, 06:05:37 PM
I just hope one day he finds himself a proper shoe shop.    I suppose when we first saw him in elevator trainers we should have known it would not end well.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: Newby on January 08, 2019, 06:26:17 PM
Very true Brian.  We never saw old Doug wear trainers, although there was that one time when he invented that bicycle kick thingy.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: Jon Crofts on January 08, 2019, 07:16:43 PM
Looks like he's finally gone according to companies house.

Not necessarily gone just the fact he is no longer a person with significant control, meaning his shareholding has reduced below a threshold which is probably 25%.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on January 08, 2019, 07:22:38 PM
My abiding memory of him will be his face as the camera panned to him during the last few minutes of the play off final.  He knew hed gambled, lost and we were spectacularly in the shit.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: brian green on January 08, 2019, 07:30:01 PM
The old very non PC word to describe that look for someone of his ethnicity was "inscrutable".
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: Sexual Ealing on January 08, 2019, 08:35:33 PM
We all scruted fairly easily on that occasion though Brian!
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: JUAN PABLO on January 08, 2019, 09:02:30 PM
shame hes gone . I reckon he would have been a decent left back
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: Risso on January 08, 2019, 11:40:47 PM
Looks like he's finally gone according to companies house.

Not necessarily gone just the fact he is no longer a person with significant control, meaning his shareholding has reduced below a threshold which is probably 25%.

Correct. It looks like the other two have been issuing shares at the end of last year, which have diluted Xia's holding.  I think that's what the Special Resolutions were probably about last year.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: Villafirst on January 09, 2019, 06:40:15 AM
Xia hasn't gone completely. His share ownership has reduced to 25% according to the B'ham Mail.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: sid1964 on January 09, 2019, 06:58:16 AM
When the 2 main men decide to sell the club, then Xia's shareholding could be worth a few quid!
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: mr underhill on January 09, 2019, 07:00:04 AM
Didn't Edens say recently it was just part of their strategy for 2019 to gradually reduce Xia's shareholding to the point that he was going to be bought out? Personally I miss his inscrutable hieroglyphics shit - nothing else mind.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: Jon Crofts on January 09, 2019, 08:03:35 AM
shame hes gone . I reckon he would have been a decent left back

What? In those shoes?
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: Concrete Tom on January 09, 2019, 09:50:46 AM
My abiding memory of him will be his face as the camera panned to him during the last few minutes of the play off final.  He knew hed gambled, lost and we were spectacularly in the shit.

Does anyone have a video of this reaction? I have searched and cannot find it. We were at Wembley so unable to watch it live.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: Damo70 on January 09, 2019, 10:56:07 AM
Very true Brian.  We never saw old Doug wear trainers, although there was that one time when he invented that bicycle kick thingy.

I saw Doug playing in full Villa kit and football boots for a ten to fifteen minute cameo appearance in a daytime charity game at Villa Park in the mid eighties. I think it was a Sunday morning around 1986 and may have been a charity warm up game before the first team played an Australian national team. I think Nigel Spink played at centre forward in the same game and scored a couple.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: Des Little on January 09, 2019, 11:59:19 AM
My abiding memory of him will be his face as the camera panned to him during the last few minutes of the play off final.  He knew hed gambled, lost and we were spectacularly in the shit.

Does anyone have a video of this reaction? I have searched and cannot find it. We were at Wembley so unable to watch it live.

If not, google Youtube for someone shitting their pants and imagine them doing it in a bad suit.
Title: Re: Xia gone?
Post by: pauliewalnuts on January 09, 2019, 12:34:23 PM
My abiding memory of him will be his face as the camera panned to him during the last few minutes of the play off final.  He knew hed gambled, lost and we were spectacularly in the shit.

Does anyone have a video of this reaction? I have searched and cannot find it. We were at Wembley so unable to watch it live.

If not, google Youtube for someone shitting their pants and imagine them doing it in a bad suit.

Google jar squatter for an idea of how it would have felt to him

PLEASE DO NOT GOOGLE JAR SQUATTER IF YOU ARE AT WORK OR IN A POSITION WHERE YOU CAN NOT VIEW EXTREMELY NSFW MATERIAL

If you do, you'll also need to order yourself some mind bleach