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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Ger Regan on August 25, 2018, 11:06:55 AM
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Didn't spot a thread for him, so here you go.
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New signing | Yannick Bolasie
Welcome, Yannick...............take us back to where we belong
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I think this is great. Very gifted player.
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Welcome.
Was excellent at Palace so if he brings that form it's all good.
Bit worried he hasn't looked great since the bad injury that kept him out for a year.
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Welcome Yannick.
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Hi
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I said he was shit on another thread, hoping that we would get him and not Boro. Obviously, there were terms and conditions attached to my previous post and now I understand him to be the very best player on earth. Welcome Yannick, very much looking forward to him and Anwar playing together, UP THE VILLA.
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Welcome Yannick! Now tear up this League!
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Took a while to get over the line but welcome Yannick.
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He said: "My main aim here is to get this club promoted. A club of this stature has to be in the Premier League.
"I looked around both Villa Park and the training ground, and me and my family just said, 'wow'. It's Premier League everywhere you look.
"I'm here to make myself smile again and use all my ability to try and help the team. It's great to be here."
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"It's Premier League everywhere you look." That's a f*cking great line.
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Spoke very well.
Welcome Yannick.
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Bombs down the wing for me we hate the city. Xxx. Welcome !
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Yanick on the streets of Aston,
Yanick on the streets of Birmingham, he's flying down the wing.
Oh Bolasie, oh Bolasie
Oh Bolasie, oh Bolasie,
Oh Bolasie, oh Bolasie, oh Bolasie,
etc,etc
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Great interview, he sounds like he has a great attitude and belief. Could be a cracking signing. Welcome!
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I didn't really want him but now he's here I hope he proves me wrong and provides goals and assists.
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Yay! Welcome to the Villa Mr B.
Here's to him being able to recapture the form he showed during his time at Palarse (and before his bad injury at Everton). If he does, he'll be a real boon for us & will have defenders cacking their kecks. Good luck Yannick.
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You tube reel:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LSk6jUa_8OU
Some pretty outrageous skills, and looks like he gets his head up at times.
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I didn't really want him but now he's here I hope he proves me wrong and provides goals and assists.
likewise.
He and Ghazi could be fierce together but I worry about our soft centre and lack of settled defence.
But - hey! - let’s wait and see how it all pans out.
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The Snodgrass of the double billionaire owner generation.
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A bit like Traore
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Maybe we will just win every game 4-3? Who wants one-nils anyway? 😊
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A bit like Traore
A definite upgrade on Traore!
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Excellent, really happy about this
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Will he be available today ?
Otherwise v Burton Tuesday !
Really great move better than touted Ojo or woodburn of Liverpool and the real Madrid youngster .
Different to snoddy but will offer a massive threat and I don't think many full backs will stop him in this league .
A direct running and footy skillz player will appreciate his forward forays and that he'll get villa up the the pitch
I hope Brucey plays both El Ghazi and Bolasie at same time
Pleased with this move and hope he can get playing again ! As he's some player
Utv !;
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I didn't really want him but now he's here I hope he proves me wrong and provides goals and assists.
Why not ? Out of interesting any reasoning (I may have missed you saying sorry)
Is it his age ?
His injury record
Or his perhaps erratic style of play
How he will disrupt the squad //team
balance ???
I do think he has ability and capable at championship level .
Are you of opinion ability wise he not a good fit or good enough ?
Yours curiously .
Footy
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A bit like Traore
A definite upgrade on Traore!
Well let's see how Traore gets on when he comes in v man city as match is crying out for him and his pace will cause problems
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Wait and see i think. If he's broken like some Everton fans are claiming then we'll see if he's not all pace. I don't think he is tbh and hopefully he'll still be able to use his undoubted ability to make a difference even if he's lost some of the speed.
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Welcome Yannick, please do well for yourself and us.
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I didn't really want him but now he's here I hope he proves me wrong and provides goals and assists.
Why not ? Out of interesting any reasoning (I may have missed you saying sorry)
Is it his age ?
His injury record
Or his perhaps erratic style of play
How he will disrupt the squad //team
balance ???
I do think he has ability and capable at championship level .
Are you of opinion ability wise he not a good fit or good enough ?
Yours curiously .
Footy
It's that far too often he'll beat his man and then fuck up the next bit. Pretty much the same thing we said about Traore and the same thing Adomah got criticised for a few days ago. Bolasie has always struggled with his crossing and his shooting is worse which is why, despite looking good on highlights, his record in terms of goals and assists isn't very impressive.
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Wait and see i think. If he's broken like some Everton fans are claiming then we'll see if he's not all pace. I don't think he is tbh and hopefully he'll still be able to use his undoubted ability to make a difference even if he's lost some of the speed.
To be honest many Villa fans thought Kodjia was broken before Wednesday. Players can come back.
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I didn't really want him but now he's here I hope he proves me wrong and provides goals and assists.
Why not ? Out of interesting any reasoning (I may have missed you saying sorry)
Is it his age ?
His injury record
Or his perhaps erratic style of play
How he will disrupt the squad //team
balance ???
I do think he has ability and capable at championship level .
Are you of opinion ability wise he not a good fit or good enough ?
Yours curiously .
Footy
It's that far too often he'll beat his man and then fuck up the next bit. Pretty much the same thing we said about Traore and the same thing Adomah got criticised for a few days ago. Bolasie has always struggled with his crossing and his shooting is worse which is why, despite looking good on highlights, his record in terms of goals and assists isn't very impressive.
A classic Steve Bruce signing. Able to conjure up a bit of quality on occasion but lacks the consistency to be a real top player.
Interesting to see how he does at a lower level though; the key this season is rotation of the squad that was non existent last year. Snodgrass for example tailed off badly as he as was never rested.
The other drawback is when the players come in they know it doesn’t matter how they play they will be out again when the 1st choice are back.
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Wait and see i think. If he's broken like some Everton fans are claiming then we'll see if he's not all pace. I don't think he is tbh and hopefully he'll still be able to use his undoubted ability to make a difference even if he's lost some of the speed.
To be honest many Villa fans thought Kodjia was broken before Wednesday. Players can come back.
yeah i nearly made that point myself. Its just that whatever way you look at it, a cruciate knee injury is very bad and lots of players don't come back the same as before
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He's been in the Championship Team of the Year and he was good enough to inspire someone to pay £25 million. He might not live up to that price tag, but he should be more than good enough to be one of the most exciting players in the league.
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I wonder how he knows Jack so well?
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Reckon could turn out to be a superb signing, certainly his pace is something we badly need.
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I didn't really want him but now he's here I hope he proves me wrong and provides goals and assists.
Why not ? Out of interesting any reasoning (I may have missed you saying sorry)
Is it his age ?
His injury record
Or his perhaps erratic style of play
How he will disrupt the squad //team
balance ???
I do think he has ability and capable at championship level .
Are you of opinion ability wise he not a good fit or good enough ?
Yours curiously .
Footy
It's that far too often he'll beat his man and then fuck up the next bit. Pretty much the same thing we said about Traore and the same thing Adomah got criticised for a few days ago. Bolasie has always struggled with his crossing and his shooting is worse which is why, despite looking good on highlights, his record in terms of goals and assists isn't very impressive.
Yes he's wayward and sometimes very wild but like Traore he's exciting and fun to watch and will bring something different to team
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"It's Premier League everywhere you look." That's a f*cking great line.
Must have missed the manager's office.
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That looked like an absolutely unbelievable save by Nyland.
It might have even gone in. And he then saved the follow up. Superb
AVTV hasn't evolved regarding replays, yet.
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Oops. Wrong thread. Too much excitement.
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"It's Premier League everywhere you look." That's a f*cking great line.
Must have missed the manager's office.
He'll soon realize his mistake when he finds himself looking back down the pitch and seeing the fucking comedy of errors called a football team behind him
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Maybe we will just win every game 4-3? Who wants one-nils anyway? 😊
Clearly not us!
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Pointless signing unless we get a decent target man in
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Pointless signing unless we get a decent target man in
He’ll make an adequate right back.
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Pointless signing unless we get a decent target man in
Totally agree there WW - plus a CB
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"It's Premier League everywhere you look." That's a f*cking great line.
Must have missed the manager's office.
He'll soon realize his mistake when he finds himself looking back down the pitch and seeing the fucking comedy of errors called a football team behind him
He’ll have a good laugh at Bodymoore Heath with the lads though, fucking around achieving very little.
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He'll soon realize his mistake when he finds himself looking back down the pitch and seeing the fucking comedy of errors called a football team behind him
Played for Everton and Palace, he should be used to it.
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Yanick on the streets of Aston,
Yanick on the streets of Birmingham, he's flying down the wing.
Oh Bolasie, oh Bolasie
Oh Bolasie, oh Bolasie,
Oh Bolasie, oh Bolasie, oh Bolasie,
etc,etc
Excellent.
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Welcome to Aston Villa Yannick.
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Is he ready to play or is he still recovering from injury? Thought I'd heard rumours of the latter.
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Expected to be ready after the international break.
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Is he ready to play or is he still recovering from injury? Thought I'd heard rumours of the latter.
Yes Bruce said in press conference Blackburn (530pm 15 Sept) is the aim
Sky sports has Bolasie down for debut but I think this could be inaccurate hearing Bruce .
Maybe a cheeky bench apperance ? I don't think a full start
"Villa's latest signing Yannick Bolasie is expected to make his full debut after arriving on a season-long loan from Everton last weekend. But midfield pair Jack Grealish (thigh) and John McGinn (knee) are both doubtful after sustaining injuries in last week's home draw against Reading"
From sky sports
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He'd have only played at RB anyway.
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Bolasie ruled out of international due to injury. I know he has been deemed as a little behind fitness wise, but injured?
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He'd have only played at RB anyway.
Or centre back.
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Bolasie ruled out of international due to injury. I know he has been deemed as a little behind fitness wise, but injured?
From what I read and heard today bruce will play him even if he's injured
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Easing him in Bruce-style, substitute the first game then regular from then on.
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Easing him in Bruce-style, substitute the first game then regular from then on.
Pretty much what Bruce said this morning
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Bolasie ruled out of international due to injury. I know he has been deemed as a little behind fitness wise, but injured?
From what I read and heard today bruce will play him even if he's injured
This is the worry about Bolasie. The Championship is a long, hard slog and durability is crucial. That's what made the decision to let Adomah go even crazier.
Bolasie has played 32 games over the last 2 season, combined and has signed for us whilst injured...
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he won't play every game though - isn't that why we have a squad? Or it should be!
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he won't play every game though - isn't that why we have a squad? Or it should be!
No, it is called a bunch of individuals!
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Well played YB !
Diving header and determination to get it.
Skillz on show and I hope he builds up fitness.
It's so great we have him at the villa
Brilliant and only be unstoppable space craft once he gets proper up to speed
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He did well. I’m not sure that ‘showboating’ when we are narrowly beating Rotherham is particularly appropriate but hey ho.
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We needed some excitement!
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Good header from Yannick for his goal.
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Good header from Yannick for his goal.
Great desire to get his head on it, reminded me of Andy in the 70s
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I assume he's still not fit to start for a few weeks
Shame as he did look a class above
Nightmare player to come on for the last 25 mins if you're tired
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Good performance & header, can't wait to see him match fit, looks strong too. On holiday so missed the game at V P but got it on sky.
Looking forward to seeing him in the flesh against Wednesday
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What was the song about him on Tuesday? Couldn't catch all the words!
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Not sure if he is match fit enough to start tomorrow, hope he is tbh as will be a major asset, but agree re the showboating comment earlier
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Are you sure we haven’t signed George weah’s cousin
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Only we could shell out 50k plus a week on someone who isn't match fit. It's like Richards time repeating itself. We must have handed over 300k plus since he arrived for 20 odd minutes on the pitch. But he did score!
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Only we could shell out 50k plus a week on someone who isn't match fit. It's like Richards time repeating itself. We must have handed over 300k plus since he arrived for 20 odd minutes on the pitch. But he did score!
I think comparing Bolaise with Micah Richards is a bit silly personally. I don't think he has played a lot of football since his injury and maybe didnt have too much of a pre-season.
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again you have missed the point - he's just like Richards in so much as we signed a player who has a history of injury and was clearly not fit/isn't fit because of those injuries. So respectfully not silly at all.
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Only we could shell out 50k plus a week on someone who isn't match fit. It's like Richards time repeating itself. We must have handed over 300k plus since he arrived for 20 odd minutes on the pitch. But he did score!
His cameo yesterday wasn't great.
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again you have missed the point - he's just like Richards in so much as we signed a player who has a history of injury and was clearly not fit/isn't fit because of those injuries. So respectfully not silly at all.
The difference is he's actually on the pitch unlike Richards and he's not our player so we won't be stuck with him for season's on end paying him for doing nothing unlike Richards.
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Only we could shell out 50k plus a week on someone who isn't match fit. It's like Richards time repeating itself. We must have handed over 300k plus since he arrived for 20 odd minutes on the pitch. But he did score!
His cameo yesterday wasn't great.
He was surprised that there were opposition players on the pitch and they will not stand around whilst he casually waits for the ball to arrive.
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What's this that we're paying all his 80k wages?!
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Complete and utter madness if true given our FFP situation.
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2018/2019 version of Onomah - not up to it.
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2018/2019 version of Onomah - not up to it.
We're all pissed off but that statement is just kneejerk rubbish!
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A bit harsh to write him off so early
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I'm not writing him off - for that money I desperately want him to succeed. All I was saying is that yet again we have committed considerable resource on a player with as terrible recent history of injuries, much like we did with Richards. Given our FFP situation is is a big gamble.
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2018/2019 version of Onomah - not up to it.
Give him a chance he hasn't even played a full match yet.
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Or even half a match.
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Or even half a match.
It's ridiculous isn't it?
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2018/2019 version of Onomah - not up to it.
Bloody Hell. He's come on as sub, what, three times? He's been quiet twice and excellent once. Maybe wait until he has played a whole game to give up on him.
Incidentally, I was surprised to see Onomah on the Wednesday bench. Had no idea he had gone there.
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He is not match fit, so give the bloke a chance. As for El Ghazi, he must be a but peed off Albert ahead of him
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Bruce being backed to the hilt again, this time with Bolasie, with us paying all of his wages.
Our club must have money to burn, are naive beyond belief, or Bruce has the almighty gift of the gab with his new bosses.
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Bruce being backed to the hilt again, this time with Bolasie, with us paying all of his wages.
Our club must have money to burn, are naive beyond belief, or Bruce has the almighty gift of the gab with his new bosses.
All "waifs and strays" he has to go "begging for" which is his narrative!
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That can't be true that we're paying all his PL wages? Do we ever fucking learn?
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That can't be true that we're paying all his PL wages? Do we ever fucking learn?
It's staggering. If true, it's gross negligence.
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Simple question - Snoddy or Bolaise?
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It's too early to say.
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I very much doubt we're paying all his wages. Where did that rumour come from in the first place?
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It wouldn't surprise me. He went for twenty odd million not long ago. If we weren't willing to pay it, someone else would.
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If we're paying Bolasie £70-80K a week then we really are a basket case. Also shits all over the "waifs and strays" nonsense.
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It's too early to say.
Yep, way way too early to say. If memory serves me correct, didn't it take Snoddgrass a while to get match fit for us because he'd hardy played any football for West Ham?
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you might well be right - but I'm going to wager that Bolaise doesn't get close to Snoddy's goals and assists
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That can't be true that we're paying all his PL wages? Do we ever fucking learn?
It's staggering. If true, it's gross negligence.
Why do people think we're paying all his wages, has this been stated anywhere? I'd be very surprised if we are.
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you might well be right - but I'm going to wager that Bolaise doesn't get close to Snoddy's goals and assists
Maybe he won't but that's a bit of a different argument to saying we've brought in another Micah Richards.
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it's not but if you can't see that then fine. In my opinion both haven indisputable records of serious injury - one doesn't play but probably can, the other is chipping in with cameos and it remains to be seen if he will be able to play 90 minutes.
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Bolasie has had two injuries in his career, Richards has had thirteen. The comparison is ludicrous.
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Bolasie has had two injuries in his career, Richards has had thirteen. The comparison is ludicrous.
Yeah, but Micah's great to have around the place.
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That can't be true that we're paying all his PL wages? Do we ever fucking learn?
It's staggering. If true, it's gross negligence.
Why do people think we're paying all his wages, has this been stated anywhere? I'd be very surprised if we are.
It was in the Birmingham Mail and, I think, E&S
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Bolasie has had two injuries in his career, Richards has had thirteen. The comparison is ludicrous.
Yeah, but Micah's great to have around the place.
A good point. He is Bantmaster General.
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Another goal by Yannick and he seemed to want to take the pen however if you look at highlights the ball dropped to Whelan and he caught it and headed to the spot . It was like it's my ball I'm taking it .
There was a debate with captain Hutton. And. Axel Tuanzebe was in the picture too .
Bolaise would have been my preferred choice I feel Bruce from touchline should be screaming let him take it.
As much as Glenn Whelan is good at what he does the penalty taking isn't his forte.
He's like one of those pros who will have the balls but not the talent to deliver .
We seen that countless times in penalty shoot outs at business end
Those who like to get stuck in and give it a go fancy themselves for a penalty.
Also noted from footage around Grealish was on halfway line and Bruce had his back to goal . Though I think bruce done that before with pens.
Again Bruce abd coaching team need to be aware and make sure all players are around the box forcing home the penalty .
I mean it was the last kick and Whelan followed up the rebound but was too slow . A quicker player or more around the box still maybe give us chance.
I really feel that more of players needed to step up around the area .
Bolaise seems pleased to be playing football again and him and Tuanzabe we're stand outs.
Sometimes it the loan players who are most grateful to be playing .
We saw that with Snodgrass last season and Bolasie should be another.
One minor but irrelevant grip after his eqailiser he needed to get back to the half and go again for the winner . There was too much celebration by him rather than determination to get a late winner.
Though we still had that penalty chance .and I really feel more should have been made by all villa players around the box as I say last kick they could have all piled in.
Was all left to Whelan and think even though he was responsible i for one wanted Bolasie , Grealish, mcginn to take it .
We had Albert adomag miss late on against Burton now this . It's all very annoying
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Hopefully he starts against Swansea. He has looked good coming off the bench.
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Yannick scores again ! And as a sub! In the 90th minute . This time on international break Democratic Republic of Congo. They lost , somewhat surprisingly at home, to Zimbabwe in Africa Cup of Nations qualifying match. Bolasie played 37 minutes.
And have to say well played though ! He seems to be enjoying back playing and making most with his football again and is getting goals and being a threat .
I think he'll only get stronger and become vibrant .
Smithy has a ready made top quality player to use in his front positions .
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African Cup of Nations. Does this mean we lose players in January?
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African Cup of Nations. Does this mean we lose players in January?
No Africa Cup of Nations in Cameroon has been moved to June and July from the usual January and February . First time ever! And it's an expanded tournament!
March international break is only time the African representatives will be away in 2019 of this season for African nation's qualifying . Last round of matches.
So that's in between march home matches scheduled boro 16th and Blackburn 30th.
Bolasie will be at fixture playing Liberia home on 22nd march.
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Cheers footy.
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Cheers footy.
I had to look to confirm and get some extra details but I heard there were plans to move the tournament to major European close season months .
Cheers . Newby
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That can't be true that we're paying all his PL wages? Do we ever fucking learn?
It's staggering. If true, it's gross negligence.
Why do people think we're paying all his wages, has this been stated anywhere? I'd be very surprised if we are.
It was in the Birmingham Mail and, I think, E&S
We are Tim. That I know for definite. Messenger or some such bollocks for details!
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I wonder how long it will take him to be fully match fit? Would suggest he's still some way off if he only played 37 mins last match?
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I didn't realise he was away this break given he's hardly played
Might not be the freshest for today then
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I'm not sure about fresh - he looked pissed today!
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Abraham was giving him grief for not tracking back.
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Abraham was giving him grief for not tracking back.
He barely tracked forward either. You'd think he'd want to impress the new boss but that wasn't going to.
I've seen absolutely nothing in him since he signed to suggest he's worth a quarter of what we're allegedly paying him.
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I'm not sure about fresh - he looked pissed today!
I got to say I said the same thing to my lad, he was awful
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Certainly didn't seem to have the same enthusiasm as he had in his previous appearances
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Abraham was giving him grief for not tracking back.
He barely tracked forward either. You'd think he'd want to impress the new boss but that wasn't going to.
I've seen absolutely nothing in him since he signed to suggest he's worth a quarter of what we're allegedly paying him.
well I imagine under Smith he wont stay long if he does that
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I have had a little drink tonight, but even so my summary would be the same if I hadn’t.
Bolasie? Waste of fuck8ng time and money.
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Return to sender
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I must say he was very disappointing today when he came on but I think he needs a run of games. Let's see how he is by Xmas.
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Olaftab, his attitude needs to improve so much if he is going to be a part of this group. I really hope it does as he is a talent, but the money he is on he needs to perform very soon
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Yeah Christmas, then we can wrap him up and send him back if it's not working out. Hopefully, Smudge will have worked his magic by then, on Bolasie.
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Waste Of Space....does nothing, adds nothing......the complete Poser
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Waste Of Space....does nothing, adds nothing......the complete Poser
you mean other than the goals he's scored and set up this season in very limited appearances since he arrived?
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He's had cameo performances at best after being out with a serious injury, I remember how good he was, if Smith can get him back to eighty percent of that he will make his mark in this division. Give him time.
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He’s a different kind of player. Has a magic moment then will hide or do something daft. It’s whether we can hold a plaolikechom in the squad and the answer has to be yes - coming off the bench could turn a difficult match
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He’s had one very poor game after coming on as a sub, after some good performances, coming on as a sub, think he needs a bit more time
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I can't ever see him being fit enough to do anything more than cameos. Yesterday he was awful.
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I can tolerate a poor game and things not coming off
But the attitude was awful. At lease make a fucking effort mate
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Dean needs to kick him up the arse. I hope it's not another lazy player on big wages who can't be bothered. Too many like this in the past on easy street.
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A truly shocking sub appearance.
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Yet he whipped in an excellent cross that ought to have been pit away.
He creates chances and scores goals.
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Let’s wait till he starts a few consecutive games before writing him off as a waste of space, particularly after one shite substitute appearance.
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ow much longer do we have to wait though? We're a quarter in and it's obvious he's still not fit enough to start. And where's the other winger wee brought in? He's so off the radar I can't even remember his name.
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I expect he didn't start as he was in the Congo on Thursday.
Old Nuno paid for this yesterday with the Dingles having playing their 7 who were on international duty.
Expect he will start Tuesday to aid the counter attack.
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I expect he didn't start as he was in the Congo on Thursday.
Old Nuno paid for this yesterday with the Dingles having playing their 7 who were on international duty.
Expect he will start Tuesday to aid the counter attack.
The Democratic Republic of the Congo has now become so unstable that it is no longer possible to obtain Um Bongo, no matter how far way down the middle you actually go.
Perhaps this affected his limp contribution to proceedings yesterday.......
I've seen it in Tescos at Witton island i'll pass it on
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He wasn't as effective yesterday has he has been so far. He seemed to be playing too far out wide and didn't get into the box as much as he has been doing. I think he'll be fine though once he settles in and gets match fit.
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Let’s wait till he starts a few consecutive games before writing him off as a waste of space, particularly after one shite substitute appearance.
Yep, agree with this. We're too quick to write off new signing nowadays.
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The ‘give them time’ argument stacks up with players who are stepping up in standard and quality.
A player valued at tens of millions of pounds and on a multi million pound contract, and stepping down a division should at least be seen to put the effort in.
A certain Mr. McGinn seems to have acclimatised to this division without needing too much time.
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The ‘give them time’ argument stacks up with players who are stepping up in standard and quality.
A player valued at tens of millions of pounds and on a multi million pound contract, and stepping down a division should at least be seen to put the effort in.
A certain Mr. McGinn seems to have acclimatised to this division without needing too much time.
I'd agree if he'd hadn't done anything of note since he's been here, but he has.
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Did he play for Congo during the week? Surely if he is still not fully recovered from his injury why was he allowed to travel?
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Did he play for Congo during the week? Surely if he is still not fully recovered from his injury why was he allowed to travel?
I stand correct but I think we can only pull players out if they're injured.
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A truly shocking sub appearance.
I do think you can critisise him for not working hard enough when they were in possession but I think "shocking" is a bit harsh. He put in some good runs and some good crosses. Wasn't it him who put one the ball in for Tammy when he should have scored?
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He's played 131 minutes for us and scored twice. For a comparison Jack has played 1112 and scored 0 and got 1 assist. Albert 487 mins and 0 goals and 1 assist.
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looked disinterested yesterday which was surprising when there's a new gaffer to impress. perhaps he was still recovering from international duty?
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Everyone said that his cameo's have been good and he should be in the starting 11. A poor half hour and suddenly he's out of order and disinterested? Come on now, let's not flip flop from one to another. He's a good player who will have a huge part to play this season, let's not make a drama out of a poor subs appearance.
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If we can get him fit, motivated and on form (which should be achievable under Smith, O'Kelly and Terry) he could be outstanding at Championship level.
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I was disgusted by his performance and attitude yesterday. Pointing fingers, walking around, not chasing down and poor ball control. That's the first time I've seen him "play" for us, but if he doesn't improve significantly then his loan short be cut short.
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Fucking Hell, talk about an overreaction. He wasn't at his best yesterday, but still set up a clear goalscoring chance. And he was only on for twenty minutes. Quite possibly log fully fit and had just flown back from a couple of games in Africa. He's already contributed plenty in his short spell at the club. I won't be joining this lynch mob.
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Fucking Hell, talk about an overreaction. He wasn't at his best yesterday, but still set up a clear goalscoring chance. And he was only on for twenty minutes. Quite possibly log fully fit and had just flown back from a couple of games in Africa. He's already contributed plenty in his short spell at the club. I won't be joining this lynch mob.
Yeah, but he didn't do a 40 yard scorpion volley whilst resurrecting Doug and punching Paul Tait simultaneously, so he can fuck off back to Everton as far as I'm concerned.
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Fucking Hell, talk about an overreaction. He wasn't at his best yesterday, but still set up a clear goalscoring chance. And he was only on for twenty minutes. Quite possibly log fully fit and had just flown back from a couple of games in Africa. He's already contributed plenty in his short spell at the club. I won't be joining this lynch mob.
Agree entirely. I just don’t see what he did so badly to merit such vitriol.
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I was disgusted by his performance and attitude yesterday. Pointing fingers, walking around, not chasing down and poor ball control. That's the first time I've seen him "play" for us, but if he doesn't improve significantly then his loan short be cut short.
Bit Daily Express.
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I was disgusted by his performance and attitude yesterday. Pointing fingers, walking around, not chasing down and poor ball control. That's the first time I've seen him "play" for us, but if he doesn't improve significantly then his loan short be cut short.
Bizarre
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I was disgusted by his performance and attitude yesterday. Pointing fingers, walking around, not chasing down and poor ball control. That's the first time I've seen him "play" for us, but if he doesn't improve significantly then his loan short be cut short.
If he plays like he did when he came on at all previous games than I hope we will change his stay to permanent.
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Me too.
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Not bizarre or Daily Express at all...I'm clearly not the only one that thought his cameo yesterday was shite. If he has more to offer and can be of benefit to the team then you wont hear me or anyone else complaining.
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Smith said both Bolasie and Kodjia didn't train on Friday so may be its just a simple case that he's not up to speed or adjusting. When you have players like Tammy and McGinn busting a gut all game, it just doesn't sit right with me when players like Bolasie come on and look like they can't be arsed.
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His work rate was poor, if Smith can get all the players playing to their maximum capacity we’ll piss this
Of the four wingers who played, by far the most impressive was Elmo. We’ve probably all ready got the players to do this
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Smith said both Bolasie and Kodjia didn't train on Friday so may be its just a simple case that he's not up to speed or adjusting. When you have players like Tammy and McGinn busting a gut all game, it just doesn't sit right with me when players like Bolasie come on and look like they can't be arsed.
I’ve just bumped into Bolassie ‘ Training ‘ at the Belfry , the first thing I said to him was “ you could have put more effort in yesterday “ , his response? “I was jet lagged” So I asked him why he didn’t tell the manager that to which he had no reply. So he knows he was useless yesterday ( and sitting in Trinity Lower I heard Tammy, Hutton, Terry and Smith all have a go at him at different times ) so we’ll see won’t we. I think he’s a big time Charlie of the Charles N’Zogbia order
Have a look at his career stats and they don’t make spectacular reading. But the icing on the cake for me tonight was he was wearing a black T shirt with his name on the back . Not a club one, not his national team one just a Bolassie billy big bollocks one. I hope his next game he puts a shift in.
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I hope next game he puts a sitter on the plate for Tammy again.
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I hope next game he puts a sitter on the plate for Tammy again.
Yeh, me too but you can’t stand around doing sweet FA for the rest of your time on the pitch can you ? Apparently it’s a team game and when your team mates are putting a shift in the minimum requirement is that you do the same . Unless you think differently ?
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Smith said both Bolasie and Kodjia didn't train on Friday so may be its just a simple case that he's not up to speed or adjusting. When you have players like Tammy and McGinn busting a gut all game, it just doesn't sit right with me when players like Bolasie come on and look like they can't be arsed.
I’ve just bumped into Bolassie ‘ Training ‘ at the Belfry , the first thing I said to him was “ you could have put more effort in yesterday “ , his response? “I was jet lagged” So I asked him why he didn’t tell the manager that to which he had no reply. So he knows he was useless yesterday ( and sitting in Trinity Lower I heard Tammy, Hutton, Terry and Smith all have a go at him at different times ) so we’ll see won’t we. I think he’s a big time Charlie of the Charles N’Zogbia order
Have a look at his career stats and they don’t make spectacular reading. But the icing on the cake for me tonight was he was wearing a black T shirt with his name on the back . Not a club one, not his national team one just a Bolassie billy big bollocks one. I hope his next game he puts a shift in.
So it's Sunday evening and you think he should be training ? I think the first thing I would have said is "good win yesterday" but each to their own.
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I'm not sure bollocking the poor guy when he's minding his own business on his day off will help anyone.
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It must be lovely for our players when they are being slagged off in person by fans after we've won.
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I'm absolutely disgusted our players are out relaxing instead of training on a Sunday afternoon/evening. Good on you for having a go at a player who has played 131 minutes first team football for us and only manage to score twice and create a number of chances for other players.
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Smith said both Bolasie and Kodjia didn't train on Friday so may be its just a simple case that he's not up to speed or adjusting. When you have players like Tammy and McGinn busting a gut all game, it just doesn't sit right with me when players like Bolasie come on and look like they can't be arsed.
I’ve just bumped into Bolassie ‘ Training ‘ at the Belfry , the first thing I said to him was “ you could have put more effort in yesterday “ , his response? “I was jet lagged” So I asked him why he didn’t tell the manager that to which he had no reply. So he knows he was useless yesterday ( and sitting in Trinity Lower I heard Tammy, Hutton, Terry and Smith all have a go at him at different times ) so we’ll see won’t we. I think he’s a big time Charlie of the Charles N’Zogbia order
Have a look at his career stats and they don’t make spectacular reading. But the icing on the cake for me tonight was he was wearing a black T shirt with his name on the back . Not a club one, not his national team one just a Bolassie billy big bollocks one. I hope his next game he puts a shift in.
Very big of you. You have to be so proud of yourself.
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Smith said both Bolasie and Kodjia didn't train on Friday so may be its just a simple case that he's not up to speed or adjusting. When you have players like Tammy and McGinn busting a gut all game, it just doesn't sit right with me when players like Bolasie come on and look like they can't be arsed.
I’ve just bumped into Bolassie ‘ Training ‘ at the Belfry , the first thing I said to him was “ you could have put more effort in yesterday “ , his response? “I was jet lagged” So I asked him why he didn’t tell the manager that to which he had no reply. So he knows he was useless yesterday ( and sitting in Trinity Lower I heard Tammy, Hutton, Terry and Smith all have a go at him at different times ) so we’ll see won’t we. I think he’s a big time Charlie of the Charles N’Zogbia order
Have a look at his career stats and they don’t make spectacular reading. But the icing on the cake for me tonight was he was wearing a black T shirt with his name on the back . Not a club one, not his national team one just a Bolassie billy big bollocks one. I hope his next game he puts a shift in.
Very big of you. You have to be so proud of yourself.
I was just about to type that exact same thing TV.
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Smith said both Bolasie and Kodjia didn't train on Friday so may be its just a simple case that he's not up to speed or adjusting. When you have players like Tammy and McGinn busting a gut all game, it just doesn't sit right with me when players like Bolasie come on and look like they can't be arsed.
I’ve just bumped into Bolassie ‘ Training ‘ at the Belfry , the first thing I said to him was “ you could have put more effort in yesterday “ , his response? “I was jet lagged” So I asked him why he didn’t tell the manager that to which he had no reply. So he knows he was useless yesterday ( and sitting in Trinity Lower I heard Tammy, Hutton, Terry and Smith all have a go at him at different times ) so we’ll see won’t we. I think he’s a big time Charlie of the Charles N’Zogbia order
Have a look at his career stats and they don’t make spectacular reading. But the icing on the cake for me tonight was he was wearing a black T shirt with his name on the back . Not a club one, not his national team one just a Bolassie billy big bollocks one. I hope his next game he puts a shift in.
Very big of you. You have to be so proud of yourself.
I was just about to type that exact same thing TV.
I too found this post bloody pointless.
Bolasie has already contributed more than N'Zogbia ever did.
I agree that his contribution wasn't as good as his other cameos so far but I wouldn't go so far as to call the guy out but that's human beings for you I suppose.
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Smith said both Bolasie and Kodjia didn't train on Friday so may be its just a simple case that he's not up to speed or adjusting. When you have players like Tammy and McGinn busting a gut all game, it just doesn't sit right with me when players like Bolasie come on and look like they can't be arsed.
I’ve just bumped into Bolassie ‘ Training ‘ at the Belfry , the first thing I said to him was “ you could have put more effort in yesterday “ , his response? “I was jet lagged” So I asked him why he didn’t tell the manager that to which he had no reply. So he knows he was useless yesterday ( and sitting in Trinity Lower I heard Tammy, Hutton, Terry and Smith all have a go at him at different times ) so we’ll see won’t we. I think he’s a big time Charlie of the Charles N’Zogbia order
Have a look at his career stats and they don’t make spectacular reading. But the icing on the cake for me tonight was he was wearing a black T shirt with his name on the back . Not a club one, not his national team one just a Bolassie billy big bollocks one. I hope his next game he puts a shift in.
So it's Sunday evening and you think he should be training ? I think the first thing I would have said is "good win yesterday" but each to their own.
Yeh you’re right each his own,If he needs to train seven days a week if it makes him half as fit as John McGinn then yeh I’m all for it, how about you ? Give him a day off for hard work put in yesterday? I’m hoping he realised his performance was piss poor and is trying to make amends , we shall she ?
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Everyone is entitled to a day off. Stop talking shite.
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FFS ::). I like John McGinn but I don't want a team full of 10 John McGinns chasing around like a Parson Terrier. Bolasie is a player full of guile and skill that we need to open up defences and given time I am sure he will do that regularly.
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Smith said both Bolasie and Kodjia didn't train on Friday so may be its just a simple case that he's not up to speed or adjusting. When you have players like Tammy and McGinn busting a gut all game, it just doesn't sit right with me when players like Bolasie come on and look like they can't be arsed.
I’ve just bumped into Bolassie ‘ Training ‘ at the Belfry , the first thing I said to him was “ you could have put more effort in yesterday “ , his response? “I was jet lagged” So I asked him why he didn’t tell the manager that to which he had no reply. So he knows he was useless yesterday ( and sitting in Trinity Lower I heard Tammy, Hutton, Terry and Smith all have a go at him at different times ) so we’ll see won’t we. I think he’s a big time Charlie of the Charles N’Zogbia order
Have a look at his career stats and they don’t make spectacular reading. But the icing on the cake for me tonight was he was wearing a black T shirt with his name on the back . Not a club one, not his national team one just a Bolassie billy big bollocks one. I hope his next game he puts a shift in.
So it's Sunday evening and you think he should be training ? I think the first thing I would have said is "good win yesterday" but each to their own.
Yeh you’re right each his own,If he needs to train seven days a week if it makes him half as fit as John McGinn then yeh I’m all for it, how about you ? Give him a day off for hard work put in yesterday? I’m hoping he realised his performance was piss poor and is trying to make amends , we shall she ?
What were you doing swanning around the Belfry? Why weren't you working, you work shy waster?
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FFS ::). I like John McGinn but I don't want a team full of 10 John McGinns chasing around like a Parson Terrier. Bolasie is a player full of guile and skill that we need to open up defences and given time I am sure he will do that regularly.
Oh, have a go at Parson Terriers now!
My boy, Ellis will bite you in the arse.
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Well you live and learn! I had to look up a Parson Terrier - I've only known them as Jack Russels.
Regarding Bolasie he's just come back from injury, getting up to match fitness and he's had the total of one day with the new management team, jet lag may well be an issue, give the guy a break. Surely we've had enough negativity recently with Bruce and our recent history. This is our honeymoon period. Get sexy! Make love not war! UTV!
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I'm not a Jack Russell.
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I'm not a Jack Russell.
(https://thumb.ibb.co/cjGoRL/FB-IMG-1540193468498.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cjGoRL)
So the only difference between a Parson Terrier and a Jack Russell is the Villa scarf? 😉
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Probably 😂
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Maybe he is jet lagged but at least he made him self available to play give him a break.
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Am I the only one calling bullshit ?
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FFS ::). I like John McGinn but I don't want a team full of 10 John McGinns chasing around like a Parson Terrier. Bolasie is a player full of guile and skill that we need to open up defences and given time I am sure he will do that regularly.
Oh, have a go at Parson Terriers now!
My boy, Ellis will bite you in the arse.
No surprise there most things bite me in the arse. Is Ellis any good to replace McGinn tomorrow night?
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FFS ::). I like John McGinn but I don't want a team full of 10 John McGinns chasing around like a Parson Terrier. Bolasie is a player full of guile and skill that we need to open up defences and given time I am sure he will do that regularly.
Oh, have a go at Parson Terriers now!
My boy, Ellis will bite you in the arse.
No surprise there most things bite me in the arse. Is Ellis any good to replace McGinn tomorrow night?
He's thirteen, deaf, arthritis in his back legs and sleeps twenty-three and a half hours a day. Maybe ahead of Whelan.
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Smith said both Bolasie and Kodjia didn't train on Friday so may be its just a simple case that he's not up to speed or adjusting. When you have players like Tammy and McGinn busting a gut all game, it just doesn't sit right with me when players like Bolasie come on and look like they can't be arsed.
I’ve just bumped into Bolassie ‘ Training ‘ at the Belfry , the first thing I said to him was “ you could have put more effort in yesterday “ , his response? “I was jet lagged” So I asked him why he didn’t tell the manager that to which he had no reply. So he knows he was useless yesterday ( and sitting in Trinity Lower I heard Tammy, Hutton, Terry and Smith all have a go at him at different times ) so we’ll see won’t we. I think he’s a big time Charlie of the Charles N’Zogbia order
Have a look at his career stats and they don’t make spectacular reading. But the icing on the cake for me tonight was he was wearing a black T shirt with his name on the back . Not a club one, not his national team one just a Bolassie billy big bollocks one. I hope his next game he puts a shift in.
Bullshit.
8.38 on a Sunday night and you claim to have bumped into one of our players, intimating you're concerned he's not training and the first thing you claim to have said was to slag him off?
Yeah, of course you did. How about telling him his t-shirt was shit too?
If it's not bullshit, then I'm not quite sure what it says about you.
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I never wanted Bolasie because he was just the wrong signing (a left back and/or centre back was much more important) and he was signed entirely because Bruce could just say 'make something happen' to him with no plan for how it would happen and let his unpredictability do all the work.
That said I don't think you can fault him so far, he's generally done the job he's been asked to.
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Bolasie is prolly the best player in the league .
His footy skillz are high end.
And attacking wise he's too good for most championship defenders.
I'm pleased Villa have him and he's enjoying playing football again after a harsh time without kicking a ball.
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Bolasie is a game changer. He will be exactly what Dean Smith will like flair, passion and can beat a man …...
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Bolasie is prolly the best player in the league .
His footy skillz are high end.
And attacking wise he's too good for most championship defenders.
I'm pleased Villa have him and he's enjoying playing football again after a harsh time without kicking a ball.
Agreed, FS. 👍🏿
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If half his team-mates and management were having a go at him for his performance on Saturday, why are you all having a go at supporter for doing the same when he possibly paid to watch him?
And no, he hasn't quite done as much as N'Zogbia yet.
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If half his team-mates and management were having a go at him for his performance on Saturday, why are you all having a go at supporter for doing the same when he possibly paid to watch him?
And no, he hasn't quite done as much as N'Zogbia yet.
I just thought that it was a shite comment to make. as others have stated probably bullshit. And there's no problem giving him a bollocking in the heat of battle, not on a Sunday night at the Belfry especially when we've won and he's enjoying a bit of a chill out no doubt.
His contribution will surpass N'Zogbia's achievements. I'm pretty confident of that. Mind you it's pretty close as it stands already.
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Players are expected to encourage, cajole and occasionally criticise each other during games.
Slagging someone off when they're on their day off is wank behaviour. Especially seeing as he seems to have ignored his previous good performances and written him off based on twenty minutes when he was knackered after just getting back from two games in Africa, and was still unlucky not to set up a goal after a superb bit of skill.
He's scored half as many goals as N'Zogbia in about a twentieth as many appearances. He's one of the best players in the league and for one of our own fans to be going out of their way to make his stay more unpleasant is revolting behaviour.
Hopefully he made it up.
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Not sure how he could be jet lagged. He was playing in Africa wasn't he?
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Smith said both Bolasie and Kodjia didn't train on Friday so may be its just a simple case that he's not up to speed or adjusting. When you have players like Tammy and McGinn busting a gut all game, it just doesn't sit right with me when players like Bolasie come on and look like they can't be arsed.
I’ve just bumped into Bolassie ‘ Training ‘ at the Belfry , the first thing I said to him was “ you could have put more effort in yesterday “ , his response? “I was jet lagged” So I asked him why he didn’t tell the manager that to which he had no reply. So he knows he was useless yesterday ( and sitting in Trinity Lower I heard Tammy, Hutton, Terry and Smith all have a go at him at different times ) so we’ll see won’t we. I think he’s a big time Charlie of the Charles N’Zogbia order
Have a look at his career stats and they don’t make spectacular reading. But the icing on the cake for me tonight was he was wearing a black T shirt with his name on the back . Not a club one, not his national team one just a Bolassie billy big bollocks one. I hope his next game he puts a shift in.
Bullshit.
8.38 on a Sunday night and you claim to have bumped into one of our players, intimating you're concerned he's not training and the first thing you claim to have said was to slag him off?
Yeah, of course you did. How about telling him his t-shirt was shit too?
If it's not bullshit, then I'm not quite sure what it says about you.
Bullshit ? If I said I bumped into him training at the Belfry that’s where I bumped into him .. I train there every Sunday evening after getting my youngest children ready for bed.I regularly bump into our players as that’s where most of them stay .Pitarch was also in Sunday running on the treadmill. The gym closed at 20.30 and that’s when he finished his light workout. Please feel free to say what you have just put in print to my face you wanker .I’d like to see you call me a liar .
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Smith said both Bolasie and Kodjia didn't train on Friday so may be its just a simple case that he's not up to speed or adjusting. When you have players like Tammy and McGinn busting a gut all game, it just doesn't sit right with me when players like Bolasie come on and look like they can't be arsed.
I’ve just bumped into Bolassie ‘ Training ‘ at the Belfry , the first thing I said to him was “ you could have put more effort in yesterday “ , his response? “I was jet lagged” So I asked him why he didn’t tell the manager that to which he had no reply. So he knows he was useless yesterday ( and sitting in Trinity Lower I heard Tammy, Hutton, Terry and Smith all have a go at him at different times ) so we’ll see won’t we. I think he’s a big time Charlie of the Charles N’Zogbia order
Have a look at his career stats and they don’t make spectacular reading. But the icing on the cake for me tonight was he was wearing a black T shirt with his name on the back . Not a club one, not his national team one just a Bolassie billy big bollocks one. I hope his next game he puts a shift in.
Bullshit.
8.38 on a Sunday night and you claim to have bumped into one of our players, intimating you're concerned he's not training and the first thing you claim to have said was to slag him off?
Yeah, of course you did. How about telling him his t-shirt was shit too?
If it's not bullshit, then I'm not quite sure what it says about you.
Bullshit ? If I said I bumped into him training at the Belfry that’s where I bumped into him .. I train there every Sunday evening after getting my youngest children ready for bed.I regularly bump into our players as that’s where most of them stay .Pitarch was also in Sunday running on the treadmill. The gym closed at 20.30 and that’s when he finished his light workout. Please feel free to say what you have just put in print to my face you wanker .I’d like to see you call me a liar .
No comment. I reckon your fingers obviously work better when they're in fist shape.
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Like a violent Eastie.
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Smith said both Bolasie and Kodjia didn't train on Friday so may be its just a simple case that he's not up to speed or adjusting. When you have players like Tammy and McGinn busting a gut all game, it just doesn't sit right with me when players like Bolasie come on and look like they can't be arsed.
I’ve just bumped into Bolassie ‘ Training ‘ at the Belfry , the first thing I said to him was “ you could have put more effort in yesterday “ , his response? “I was jet lagged” So I asked him why he didn’t tell the manager that to which he had no reply. So he knows he was useless yesterday ( and sitting in Trinity Lower I heard Tammy, Hutton, Terry and Smith all have a go at him at different times ) so we’ll see won’t we. I think he’s a big time Charlie of the Charles N’Zogbia order
Have a look at his career stats and they don’t make spectacular reading. But the icing on the cake for me tonight was he was wearing a black T shirt with his name on the back . Not a club one, not his national team one just a Bolassie billy big bollocks one. I hope his next game he puts a shift in.
Bullshit.
8.38 on a Sunday night and you claim to have bumped into one of our players, intimating you're concerned he's not training and the first thing you claim to have said was to slag him off?
Yeah, of course you did. How about telling him his t-shirt was shit too?
If it's not bullshit, then I'm not quite sure what it says about you.
Bullshit ? If I said I bumped into him training at the Belfry that’s where I bumped into him .. I train there every Sunday evening after getting my youngest children ready for bed.I regularly bump into our players as that’s where most of them stay .Pitarch was also in Sunday running on the treadmill. The gym closed at 20.30 and that’s when he finished his light workout. Please feel free to say what you have just put in print to my face you wanker .I’d like to see you call me a liar .
No comment. I reckon your fingers obviously work better when they're in fist shape.
No , just where I come from having an opinion different to someone else’s is one thing , calling them a liar is defamation unless you have facts to prove otherwise which you obviously haven’t. So I suppose Calling you out is maybe better than threatening taking you to court ?
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Taking him to court! 😂
Drummond you fool, you've tarnished the good name of BrentastonB6. He'll never be able to work in the stalking and insulting footballers at golf courses industry again.
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Taking him to court! 😂
Drummond you fool, you've tarnished the good name of BrentastonB6. He'll never be able to work in the stalking and insulting footballers at golf courses industry again.
Bless,it ‘s nice to see all the little girls sticking together when someone has the audacity to challenge them👏
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Ooooohhhhh, he called you a girl. Consider yourselves cussed.
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Little girl? I'll see you in court.
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Calling him a little girl is definitely a lie and worthy of court action, as I know CD is a big girl! :-*
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I'm so angry I've forgotten who I'm supposed to be suing.
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I regularly bump into our players as that’s where most of them stay
Please don't speak to them.
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Well, checking this page between classes at University has made me chuckle.
I reckon Smith'll get Bolasie firing, and he'll be a real danger. You can already see how pacey and dangerous he can be. He'll be coached properly, and probably destroy alot of defences.
Good luck to the bloke, I say.
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Taking him to court! 😂
Drummond you fool, you've tarnished the good name of BrentastonB6. He'll never be able to work in the stalking and insulting footballers at golf courses industry again.
Bless,it ‘s nice to see all the little girls sticking together when someone has the audacity to challenge them👏
A sexist bully too?
Are you going to lay your fists all over me, or take me to court? Surely you wouldn't pick on a little girl?
P. S. Why was training in inverted commas if you really did see him at the gym?
P. P. S why did you not just say "hi Yannick, how are you? Good result, was it hard work?"
P. P. P. S. Was he bigger than you?
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I'm so angry I've forgotten who I'm supposed to be suing.
Either me or Bolasie for winding him up.
Careful sister, I may counter sue.
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Counterclaim.
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I saw James Collins "training" in the Lord Nelson in Southwold. I told him he was too old and too slow for Villa and to stay away from Sid. He had a T shirt with Proud To Be Ginger written on it. I asked if that meant he was queer. The paramedics were very good.
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I met Lionel Messi in the Royal Oak.
Told him he couldn't do it on a cold wet night at Stoke. He broke down in tears so I consoled him with some gentle playing of the mandolin.
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Little girl? I'll see you in court.
Only if you can prove you aren’t 🤔
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I've got to say I'm pretty impressed he was training at 8.30pm in the gym on a Sunday night in a week he's had two games in Aftrica and a sub appearance on Saturday.
And I'm with Drummond, why be confrontational with a player who is in his down time and may turn out to be a key member of our team this season? Some people just like to be hard I guess. And then tell everyone about it.
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It's because some people are just dicks.
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Oh my, is this the first on H&V? A libel case for calling someone a lawyer?
Having an opinion is one thing and that is not the issue, but going out your way to verbally attack a young lad on his day off after one bad day at the office is just a bit sad. Well, if that is what really happened!
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Little girl? I'll see you in court.
Only if you can prove you aren’t 🤔
The mods have already warned me once about sending dick pics via PM. I think that's why the General stopped posting.
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I've got to say I'm pretty impressed he was training at 8.30pm in the gym on a Sunday night in a week he's had two games in Aftrica and a sub appearance on Saturday.
And I'm with Drummond, why be confrontational with a player who is in his down time and may turn out to be a key member of our team this season? Some people just like to be hard I guess. And then tell everyone about it.
, I've got to say I'm pretty impressed he was training at 8.30pm in the gym on a Sunday night in a week he's had two games in Aftrica and a sub appearance on Saturday.
And I'm with Drummond, why be confrontational with a player who is in his down time and may turn out to be a key member of our team this season? Some people just like to be hard I guess. And then tell everyone about it.
No he wasn’t confronted I merely had a chat with him on my way past him in a gym,not his lounge or some private VIP area.He didn’t take umbrage with what I said but stated he was jet lagged. I bump into our players and staff there all the time , they aren’t gods they are paid employees of our club out in a public place .I don’t feel the need to dress up what I saw on the pitch from yards away as something it wasn’t .likewise if he’d had a brilliant game or just joined the club I’d welcome him accordingly.
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Well this got out of hand and handbags at the ready now girls play nice LOL.
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He had twenty-odd minutes on the pitch and created one very good chance.
You felt the need to get in his face? Weird.
That's him told.
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Yannick is a big lad, comes across quite cocky at times in interviews which isn't a bad thing, I'm sure he can look after himself. Unless BrentAston was coming at him with a nine-iron which doesn't appear to be the case.
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Counterclaim.
Isn't that what you do at the Post Office?
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I bet he doesn't play a full game for us.
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Bet he does Mr U. That's if you mean Yannick. If you mean his training acquaintance at The Belfry nah, too musclebound.
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I bet he doesn't play a full game for us.
I'll take some of that. Twenty quid?
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I'm not overly fussed if he doesn't play a full 90 minutes, as long as he makes a positive contribution when he is on the pitch.
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In 27 minutes of play v Swansea Yannick passing accuracy was at 85.7 %
Decent average.
Compare that to Abraham who 47% under half time he gave ball away .
Bolasie is decent with a football
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In 27 minutes of play v Swansea Yannick passing accuracy was at 85.7 %
Decent average.
Compare that to Abraham who 47% under half time he gave ball away .
Bolasie is decent with a football
If ever there was a case for proving stats mean very little this is it ;)
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In 27 minutes of play v Swansea Yannick passing accuracy was at 85.7 %
Decent average.
Compare that to Abraham who 47% under half time he gave ball away .
Bolasie is decent with a football
If ever there was a case for proving stats mean very little this is it ;)
I think it shows a lot in the realms of passing.
If had stats for distances covered and other numbers to indicate pressing then that too would show a lot.
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I've got to say I'm pretty impressed he was training at 8.30pm in the gym on a Sunday night in a week he's had two games in Aftrica and a sub appearance on Saturday.
And I'm with Drummond, why be confrontational with a player who is in his down time and may turn out to be a key member of our team this season? Some people just like to be hard I guess. And then tell everyone about it.
, I've got to say I'm pretty impressed he was training at 8.30pm in the gym on a Sunday night in a week he's had two games in Aftrica and a sub appearance on Saturday.
And I'm with Drummond, why be confrontational with a player who is in his down time and may turn out to be a key member of our team this season? Some people just like to be hard I guess. And then tell everyone about it.
No he wasn’t confronted I merely had a chat with him on my way past him in a gym,not his lounge or some private VIP area.He didn’t take umbrage with what I said but stated he was jet lagged. I bump into our players and staff there all the time , they aren’t gods they are paid employees of our club out in a public place .I don’t feel the need to dress up what I saw on the pitch from yards away as something it wasn’t .likewise if he’d had a brilliant game or just joined the club I’d welcome him accordingly.
Well I welcome your share and you're entitled to your view and that you spoke your mind.
What's good is you were honest in what you wanted to say .
I don't know why everyone else is on your case as that should be resreved for cabbage throwers and discriminators.
Quite opposite you were being honest and sounds like Yannick was too!!
For me bolasie is all about energy as a player and also he's in the gym ! That says a lot
Some times in life people don't get things or choose to question or ridicule if they wouldn't act or speak in that way themselves . What's nicer all round is the understanding and that brentastonb6 here kindly shared his interaction .
And feel free to post anymore info or informal chats you have with villa players this season !
Thanks
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I never knew anything about Bolasie before he joined us so I've been interested to hear what other have to say about him. In the short time I've watched him he seems to be an 'awkward' player, not fluid, very much like Kodja. I'm not sure the team can support two awkward players.
Maybe Smith can straighten them out but I very much doubt it.
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https://twitter.com/YannickBolasie/status/1054806693496926208
At least he's watching the game from somewhere...
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sadly not from the pitch. My prediction is still on.
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Come villa FFS. Get a fucking foot in. El Ghazi... hmm.
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In 27 minutes of play v Swansea Yannick passing accuracy was at 85.7 %
Decent average.
Compare that to Abraham who 47% under half time he gave ball away .
Bolasie is decent with a football
If ever there was a case for proving stats mean very little this is it ;)
spot on. he was fucking useless when he came on. either jet lagged or on strike. hardly moved a muscle
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Hopefully we can send him back to Everton in January. Pulis dodged a bullet there.
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We don't half have some hysterical drama queens as fans.
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We don't half have some hysterical drama queens as fans.
Right on sister!
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We don't half have some hysterical drama queens as fans.
That sounds just like a Steve Bruce quote! "Hysteria"
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It is pretty hysterical to he wanting to get rid of one of the most talented players in the division because he missed a game, despite putting in extra training on his day off to try to make it.
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when you are 14 games in and that player has yet to start and has cost you an eye watering amount of money that would have been better spent elsewhere, then i think his critics have every eight to be concerned. And I'll take your £20 bet.
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Done.
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ha! the game's afoot CD.
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when you are 14 games in and that player has yet to start and has cost you an eye watering amount of money that would have been better spent elsewhere, then i think his critics have every eight to be concerned. And I'll take your £20 bet.
I'm disgusted that he didn't start any of the first 5 games, despite not being a Villa player for them!
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He blesses himself when he leaves the pitch so he must have some morals, I guess.
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He blesses himself when he leaves the pitch so he must have some morals, I guess.
Probably offering his thanks for another £70k in his offshore bank account :)
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my worry is he hasn't recovered from that injury. Given his wages it was always a big gamble for Bruce. Add to that he doesn't even score much - well i'm not sure he's going to appeal to Smith long term
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In smithy press conference pre QPR he said
"I didn't think Yannick made enough of an impact when he came on against Swansea and I spoke to him about that and he's worked hard all week and had a really good training session and is available for selection "
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It's good to know that Dean Smith isn't too concerned about letting the players know what he thinks. Hopefully, Bolasie takes it on the chin and comes back more determined.
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Smith has to make his mark and I fear Bolasie , kodjia or may be one of the marked men to not fit the energy, hard work and enthusiasm mantra.
I suspect El Ghazi will be in that picture too.
All talented with the ball it's the work off it that may prohibit them.
Jedinak will be interesting and may be the senior figure to leave in January depending on how things are.
All Yannick can do is get playing and do the stuff asked .
It's not totally his natural game but smithy has time for flair attacking players he just wants to make sure they have the right attitude
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I wouldn't fear Smith's assessment Footyskillz. If they are left out, it's based on attitude or lack of ability. He wants attacking football.
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There's also the show them who's boss syndrome where players are made examples sometimes just to show managwr authority as much as I don't fancy him .
Attitude will be found out and as much as clean slates given managers come in and say you won't fit my style.
I notice there is a bomb squad thread I don't think it's a thing or it's at that level but it would be no surprise one of players mentioned and may add Lansbury , Richards won't be much involved and certainly attitudes have to be right .
However to reiterate it's often case a player or two is deemed not part plans .as well as making room in squad for incoming .
In this case Smith is clear on what works for him regards running and movement demands.
Smith also seems to front up and has dialogue with players more current approach than an old school shunning players. He ll be up front with it.
Feel O'Kelly is the softer one with coach and JT the go to for the players .
Smith rules hard but fair.
Seems all good and clear !
Up the villa!
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I've got to say I'm pretty impressed he was training at 8.30pm in the gym on a Sunday night in a week he's had two games in Aftrica and a sub appearance on Saturday.
And I'm with Drummond, why be confrontational with a player who is in his down time and may turn out to be a key member of our team this season? Some people just like to be hard I guess. And then tell everyone about it.
, I've got to say I'm pretty impressed he was training at 8.30pm in the gym on a Sunday night in a week he's had two games in Aftrica and a sub appearance on Saturday.
And I'm with Drummond, why be confrontational with a player who is in his down time and may turn out to be a key member of our team this season? Some people just like to be hard I guess. And then tell everyone about it.
No he wasn’t confronted I merely had a chat with him on my way past him in a gym,not his lounge or some private VIP area.He didn’t take umbrage with what I said but stated he was jet lagged. I bump into our players and staff there all the time , they aren’t gods they are paid employees of our club out in a public place .I don’t feel the need to dress up what I saw on the pitch from yards away as something it wasn’t .likewise if he’d had a brilliant game or just joined the club I’d welcome him accordingly.
Well I welcome your share and you're entitled to your view and that you spoke your mind.
What's good is you were honest in what you wanted to say .
I don't know why everyone else is on your case as that should be resreved for cabbage throwers and discriminators.
Quite opposite you were being honest and sounds like Yannick was too!!
For me bolasie is all about energy as a player and also he's in the gym ! That says a lot
Some times in life people don't get things or choose to question or ridicule if they wouldn't act or speak in that way themselves . What's nicer all round is the understanding and that brentastonb6 here kindly shared his interaction .
And feel free to post anymore info or informal chats you have with villa players this season !
Thanks
Thanks for the thanks, not too worried about people having a go ....there are a lot of keyboard warriors but like all of us they are entitled to their opinions so I don’t think I’ll be changing my identity or route home . Likewise since my post I haven’t seen anything in Yannick to make me change my mind . I would actually like to be wrong as I never want to see any Villa player fail and I’ll happily eat humble pie if his form contributes to us returning to the premier league. UTV
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I don't understand what the issue with him being in the gym in his day off was.
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He looked pained at QPR when trying to run without the ball. Hope we haven't signed a crock.
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I don't understand what the issue with him being in the gym in his day off was.
There wasn’t . It was more around if he was trying to put in extra work to get himself fit it was the biggest non workout you ever saw, my five year old daughter puts in more effort .When she plays football it looks like she’s putting in more effort than him too at the moment.
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I don't understand what the issue with him being in the gym in his day off was.
There wasn’t . It was more around if he was trying to put in extra work to get himself fit it was the biggest non workout you ever saw, my five year old daughter puts in more effort .When she plays football it looks like she’s putting in more effort than him too at the moment.
Maybe, possibly, he was told by the physios to do some light training to keep ticking over until he was back at Bodymoor. None of us are fitness experts and none of us know what's best for a player the day after a match.
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I don't understand what the issue with him being in the gym in his day off was.
There wasn’t . It was more around if he was trying to put in extra work to get himself fit it was the biggest non workout you ever saw, my five year old daughter puts in more effort .When she plays football it looks like she’s putting in more effort than him too at the moment.
How much work can you really do in the gym on your own?
If you're doing gym work you need the supervision of a coach or the pressure to excel of a class or a team chipper for the WOD to count.
The physio had him doing a specific warm up half time. He also stamps his foot deliberately after a delivery. He's being nursed.
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I like how it's gone from him having a 'light workout' to it now being the 'biggest non-workout' anyone has ever seen.
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£70k a week for a player who has to be nursed. Says It all about post MON spending on players really.
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Are we actually paying him £70k a week though or is that just a figure that's been plucked out of the air?
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Christ...if a player needs to be nursed to get the best out of him, then nurse him.
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If it's £700 a week I would expect a player in a Villa shirt to be more like Milner and less like Downing.
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Downing was quite good for us, and also took a while to get to full fitness. When he did, if was worth the wait. The main downside of his play was his constant chickening out of tackles, but I've seen no evidence of that from Bolasie.
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Nor I. I was making the point about Downing's physical condition. When we were a Premiership side with several top class players we could afford to play the long game with potentially valuable players. Now we are a fixture in the middle of the Championship we do not have the luxury of giving potentially good players extensive periods of time to be of value to us.
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I like how it's gone from him having a 'light workout' to it now being the 'biggest non-workout' anyone has ever seen.
Semantics, but glad you like the change 👍
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We signed him at the end of August. His fitness then must've been awful - how did he pass a medical? A third of the season gone and still not fully fit over 2 months later? Bad decision making on transfers still prevails at the club.
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We signed him at the end of August. His fitness then must've been awful - how did he pass a medical? A third of the season gone and still not fully fit over 2 months later? Bad decision making on transfers still prevails at the club.
Perhaps he is good company for Richards .....laughing all the way to the bank ...... I read that Collins is also injured - however I presume we are not paying him ...are we????
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Did very well when he came on 👍
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Who's Collins?
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Who's Collins?
Joan or Jacquie.
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For someone so shit and lazy he sure seems to provide a lot of goals and assists ;)
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I imagine for what Smith wants he hasn't got the fitness for 90 or even 60 minutes so Adomah is better from start and Bolasie is better as impact sub while he works up his level.
Two weeks training if DR congo haven't called him up and I'd consider starting him v SHA. Him and Grealish will surely be too much for their back 4, they conceded 3 to Hull today.
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I imagine for what Smith wants he hasn't got the fitness for 90 or even 60 minutes so Adomah is better from start and Bolasie is better as impact sub while he works up his level.
Two weeks training if DR congo haven't called him up and I'd consider starting him v SHA. Him and Grealish will surely be too much for their back 4, they conceded 3 to Hull today.
That bastard Doctor Congo has got a lot to answer for.
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I imagine for what Smith wants he hasn't got the fitness for 90 or even 60 minutes so Adomah is better from start and Bolasie is better as impact sub while he works up his level.
Two weeks training if DR congo haven't called him up and I'd consider starting him v SHA. Him and Grealish will surely be too much for their back 4, they conceded 3 to Hull today.
That bastard Doctor Congo has got a lot to answer for.
He prescribes nothing but Um-Bongo. No wonder Yannick can't last 90 mins.
What a cross today though.
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Actually in the latest squad......versus Congo.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DR_Congo_national_football_team
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He was bloody great, can’t wait for him to start, he will, & has caused problems in this league
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For someone so shit and lazy he sure seems to provide a lot of goals and assists ;)
Pleased for him and us, I just hope he keeps it up 👍
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Another 2 assists, working on the premise that winning a converted pen is an assist. For Fantasy Football it is so that's good enough for me. Him and Tammy will absolutely terrify every defence in this league.
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Another 2 assists, working on the premise that winning a converted pen is an assist. For Fantasy Football it is so that's good enough for me. Him and Tammy will absolutely terrify every defence in this league.
cracking assist for the first, absolutely nailed that cross
should have been taken off about 10 mins before he was mind, which again is very concerning given the budget used to bring him in
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I thought he was great
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Nobody who has a clue would doubt his talent, and there are some signs that he is up for it after recent performances.
The reason we have him on loan goes beyond his injury though, and we shall soon see if it was a good piece of business. I am quite optimistic.
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He is some player at this level.
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Hopefully we'll see him and Albert on the flanks when he's fit again.
Opposition won't handle those two, Abraham + Jack.
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He's played the equivalent of about three and a half games so far and has 2 goals and 3 assists (I think including the pen) plus created a number of other chances. If we get him fit enough to play on a regular basis he'll smash this division.
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He's quick isn't he?!
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He's quick isn't he?!
In his prime at CP, he terrorised PL defences. Having Zaha on the other wing would have helped.
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He's quick isn't he?!
He is, but I'm not entirely sure he has any idea what his legs are actually doing.
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I like him
he tries to do things no other player will try
not everything will work out
Dangerous cross field balls which get cut out, ie Saturday
crosses that are to deep, or to hard
Quick fire shots at goal
but he’s a massive danger player, I like his direct approach he tries to make things happen every time he has the ball
I think he’s scored and had assists most times he’s been on the pitch
I can forgive the stuff that doesn’t come off because he makes a difference with the things that do in every game
I would prefer him to Albert if it was a straight choice between the two
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he tries to do things no other player will try
not everything will work out
Dangerous cross field balls which get cut out, ie Saturday
crosses that are to deep, or to hard
Quick fire shots at goal
Terrible poem
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I would prefer him to Albert if it was a straight choice between the two
I'd prefer him and Albert in the same team I think, with Kodija missing out.
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El Ghazi looked a handful too which is pleasing.
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He was good but did noticeably tire though and should have been replaced 5 minutes earlier. I think the confusion around that contributed to one of their goals.
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His first start and the good thing is he’ll improve from here. An hour or so in his legs up that another 10 mins Saturday and he’ll be appproaching full fitness by Xmas.
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he tries to do things no other player will try
not everything will work out
Dangerous cross field balls which get cut out, ie Saturday
crosses that are to deep, or to hard
Quick fire shots at goal
Terrible poem
S.T. Coleridge eat your heart out
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Iirc when he was called upon to come on as a sub re blues he didnt even have his socks and boots on so how could he have warmed up?
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His first start and the good thing is he’ll improve from here. An hour or so in his legs up that another 10 mins Saturday and he’ll be appproaching full fitness by Xmas.
This is something I'll never understand.
He's been with us since August. How can it take a professional footballer four months to get to full fitness?!
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His first start and the good thing is he’ll improve from here. An hour or so in his legs up that another 10 mins Saturday and he’ll be appproaching full fitness by Xmas.
This is something I'll never understand.
He's been with us since August. How can it take a professional footballer four months to get to full fitness?!
Ever tried running on a limb where a bone has been broken?
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His first start and the good thing is he’ll improve from here. An hour or so in his legs up that another 10 mins Saturday and he’ll be appproaching full fitness by Xmas.
This is something I'll never understand.
He's been with us since August. How can it take a professional footballer four months to get to full fitness?!
Ever tried running on a limb where a bone has been broken?
I have as it happens. Not sure what that's got to do with Yannick Bolasie though.
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His first start and the good thing is he’ll improve from here. An hour or so in his legs up that another 10 mins Saturday and he’ll be appproaching full fitness by Xmas.
This is something I'll never understand.
He's been with us since August. How can it take a professional footballer four months to get to full fitness?!
Ever tried running on a limb where a bone has been broken?
I have as it happens. Not sure what that's got to do with Yannick Bolasie though.
I’m saying it takes months for tissues to heal properly. Cardio vascular fitness is only part of the recovery process.
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His first start and the good thing is he’ll improve from here. An hour or so in his legs up that another 10 mins Saturday and he’ll be appproaching full fitness by Xmas.
This is something I'll never understand.
He's been with us since August. How can it take a professional footballer four months to get to full fitness?!
Ever tried running on a limb where a bone has been broken?
I have as it happens. Not sure what that's got to do with Yannick Bolasie though.
I'm glad he's here though, he's well worth the wait. He's a very exciting player.
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His first start and the good thing is he’ll improve from here. An hour or so in his legs up that another 10 mins Saturday and he’ll be appproaching full fitness by Xmas.
This is something I'll never understand.
He's been with us since August. How can it take a professional footballer four months to get to full fitness?!
Ever tried running on a limb where a bone has been broken?
I have as it happens. Not sure what that's got to do with Yannick Bolasie though.
I’m saying it takes months for tissues to heal properly. Cardio vascular fitness is only part of the recovery process.
I agree. But which bone has Bolasie broken?
If you're actually referring to him rupturing his ACL, that was two years ago and it normally takes 12 months to get back to full fitness from that sort of injury.
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His first start and the good thing is he’ll improve from here. An hour or so in his legs up that another 10 mins Saturday and he’ll be appproaching full fitness by Xmas.
This is something I'll never understand.
He's been with us since August. How can it take a professional footballer four months to get to full fitness?!
Ever tried running on a limb where a bone has been broken?
I have as it happens. Not sure what that's got to do with Yannick Bolasie though.
I’m saying it takes months for tissues to heal properly. Cardio vascular fitness is only part of the recovery process.
I agree. But which bone has Bolasie broken?
If you're actually referring to him rupturing his ACL, that was two years ago and it normally takes 12 months to get back to full fitness from that sort of injury.
I was just using a broken bone as an example. I know what an ACL is and how long it takes to recover from tearing one .
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Someone pass me the pop corn bucket, the bitchin's started
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Someone pass me the pop corn bucket, the bitchin's started
I gave it to Nyland to bring over to you...
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Someone pass me the pop corn bucket, the bitchin's started
I gave it to Nyland to bring over to you...
(https://media.giphy.com/media/pVBUBqNdTdsVuiybM4/giphy.gif)
Nooooooooooo!
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You used an example of an injury Bolasie never had to explain why he's not fit?!
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You used an example of an injury Bolasie never had to explain why he's not fit?!
I’ve already explained. You asked why does it take professional footballers so long to get fit again. I said that it takes more than cardio vascular fitness using a broken bone as an example although I didn’t suggest YB has broken a bone although you tried to make me look foolish by suggesting I did. What’s so difficult to understand?
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Ok, I'll try it another way.
Just like Bolasie, lots of other players in the squad haven't been injured all year. So how come they're all fit and he isn't?
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Ok, I'll try it another way.
Just like Bolasie, lots of other players in the squad haven't been injured all year. So how come they're all fit and he isn't?
Who says he’s not functionally fit? He might lack match fitness, but I’m sure you’ll agree that’s not the same thing. Match fitness only comes with game time.
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And another assist. He's played the equivalent of just over 4 games (minutes wise) and has 2 goals, 3 assists and created a number of other chances as well.
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Someone pass me the pop corn bucket, the bitchin's started
I gave it to Nyland to bring over to you...
(https://media.giphy.com/media/pVBUBqNdTdsVuiybM4/giphy.gif)
Nooooooooooo!
Is that a Youtube clip titled 'Neymar Goes To The Cinema'?
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Ok, I'll try it another way.
Just like Bolasie, lots of other players in the squad haven't been injured all year. So how come they're all fit and he isn't?
He's playing, he's setting up goals and making a contribution. What's the problem?
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Guy just got on the train playing a Beatles song.
Got to admit, it's getting better....
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In the old days, specialist full backs had one task: to deal with wingers. Force them oustide, and then block the cross, usually with was what was then called a sliding tackle. Our own Charlie Aitken was an exemplar of the trade.
Now, a winger is a luxury, and just needs pace plus one trick. Bolassie has prodigious pace plus 4 or 5 tricks. He is lethal in this division.
The downside is that Everton will want him back.
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Not sure they will. For his trickery and some end product, he gives the ball away a fair bit too - against lesser quality defenders. With the players we have and in this league, its not much of a problem but he would soon frustrate Everton coaches and fans.
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https://twitter.com/jimmyhessel/status/1068986648485117952?s=12
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The downside is that Everton will want him back.
https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/yannick-bolasie.104334/page-88
They won’t!
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Keep them fit and him Abraham will tear this league apart. And in style.
Just worry about the fitness bit!
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Last night he looked like he was taking the piss against players several levels below him.
He’s quick, skilful and strong. There were periods where he looked like he could get into boro’s box and make space so easily he almost surprised himself and the final ball suffered as a result. Absolute baller.
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I said when we signed him that if (and it was a fairly big if at the time) we could get him fit and on form he would be a stand out player in the Championship.
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And I'll take your £20 bet.
The drinks will be on CD tonight.
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And I'll take your £20 bet.
The drinks will be on CD tonight.
Mine's a pint of Pernod. Cheers.
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PM me CD with your details.
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Don't worry about it mate, I don't really want to take money off a Villa fan. If you feel the urge to spend twenty quid, stick it in the Acorns bucket next game or something like that. 👍🏿
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I thought he was great today. The lack of movement in midfield left him in limbo for the final ball. Hourihane is not the answer there.
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I thought he was great today. The lack of movement in midfield left him in limbo for the final ball. Hourihane is not the answer there.
He was carrying the fight on his own today.
He was getting frustrated with Hourihane.
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I thought he was a headless chicken today. His decision making and final balls were dreadful.
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I thought he was a headless chicken today. His decision making and final balls were dreadful.
There was no one making the run. What else was he supposed to do?
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I thought he was a headless chicken today. His decision making and final balls were dreadful.
There was no one making the run. What else was he supposed to do?
Pass to another Villa player.
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At times you have to wonder if anyone, including Bolasie, has a clue what he is doing.
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He's absolutely wasted playing on the left. I know it's to accomodate El Gahzi on the right but even when he went off, Smith still didn't change it. The one time Bolasie drifted out to the right, he puts the cross in for Kodjia's goal.
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I thought he was a headless chicken today. His decision making and final balls were dreadful.
There was no one making the run. What else was he supposed to do?
Pass to another Villa player.
One who’s just standing there behind a Stoke player?
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Take away his speed and strength yiu have to wonder how he gets such favourable coverage
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not very thing he does comes off if it did he wouldn't be playing for us he'd be at Barca
but he always looks dangerous to me, I often wonder what some of you lot are watching same with Grealish in the past
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Bolasie was integral at two moments of quality; the excellent move where he should have hit the target and yet another inch perfect cross for the 2nd equaliser.
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Bolasie was integral at two moments of quality; the excellent move where he should have hit the target and yet another inch perfect cross for the 2nd equaliser.
Agreed. He is the kind of player that will constantly try things and when they don't come off looks a bit silly. He definitely missed Jack floating around in the inside left channel to use to drag players away and to thread him the ball when he ran inside the full back. With Hutton not a natural left back I don't think he overlapped at all yesterday which Bolasie could have done with to create a bit of extra space. Was often faced with two/three defenders square on to him and then the only option was to try to beat the man - which doesn't always come off.
We saw his quality for Kodjia's goal - he'll always make assist contributions at this level. A combination of factors (and a decent Stoke side) meant he was less effective and less pleasing on the eye yesterday, but I'd expect him to shred the inexperienced Leeds defence next weekend.
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Take away his speed and strength yiu have to wonder how he gets such favourable coverage
Why would you disregard his strengths?
It's fairly obvious why he gets favourable coverage - he's an exciting player who gets assists and goals.
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Take away his speed and strength yiu have to wonder how he gets such favourable coverage
Why would you disregard his strengths?
It's fairly obvious why he gets favourable coverage - he's an exciting player who gets assists and goals.
But that's you taking his strength, pace, ability to cross and beat a player into account. Take those away then have a moment to reflect on why he gets favourable coverage. I bet you get a different answer then :o
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I like Bolasie a lot, and he's an exciting player to watch, but think he's been poor the last two games.
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I like Bolasie a lot, and he's an exciting player to watch, but think he's been poor the last two games.
Yep, same here. What I didn't like was his constant moaning at team mates. There's a noticeable feelgood factor around the club now so hopefully that was a one off yesterday.
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Take away his speed and strength yiu have to wonder how he gets such favourable coverage
Why would you disregard his strengths?
It's fairly obvious why he gets favourable coverage - he's an exciting player who gets assists and goals.
But that's you taking his strength, pace, ability to cross and beat a player into account. Take those away then have a moment to reflect on why he gets favourable coverage. I bet you get a different answer then :o
You're right, I'm sorry. When taking away all the many things he's good at, mostly the things you would ask of a winger, he's not very good and it's baffling why people like him.
On a serious note, good to see him lasting full games now - clearly back to full fitness.
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Agree with risso he didn’t impress me much yesterday. Wasteful with the chances which, in fairness, he created. He does sometimes looks like he finds it easy to get into great positions then doesn’t know what to when he’s there.
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Bolasie offers very little, if any, defensive cover therefore expecting the fullback to overlap leaves us extremely exposed if Bolasie loses the ball.
Compare him to Adomah on the left, who may not be quite so talented but works offensively and defensively, much more solid option.
Think sometimes that he is a better option being used as a substitute, coming on later on in games when the opposition are tired.
His stats are 15 appearances, 11 as sub, 2 goals and 4 assists, nothing startling for a £25 million PL player, perhaps there is more to come?
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His stats are 15 appearances, 11 as sub, 2 goals and 4 assists, nothing startling for a £25 million PL player, perhaps there is more to come?
He's spent the equivalent of 6 full games on the pitch. I'll take an average of a goal or assist every game plus the load of other chances he's been involved in that weren't converted.
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It's mad that after the recent campaign for Bolasie to start matches, within 2 full appearances, people are questioning him.
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Bolasie offers very little, if any, defensive cover therefore expecting the fullback to overlap leaves us extremely exposed if Bolasie loses the ball.
Compare him to Adomah on the left, who may not be quite so talented but works offensively and defensively, much more solid option.
Think sometimes that he is a better option being used as a substitute, coming on later on in games when the opposition are tired.
His stats are 15 appearances, 11 as sub, 2 goals and 4 assists, nothing startling for a £25 million PL player, perhaps there is more to come?
all I know is I get more excited when Bolasie gets the ball and is running at the opposition than when Albert does
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It's mad that after the recent campaign for Bolasie to start matches, within 2 full appearances, people are questioning him.
Maybe they're seeing that he's better deployed as a sub.
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He's still building up match fitness after so long out. It doesn't happen overnight. He still provided a quality cross for Kodjia to score.
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Bolasie is a “bums off seats” winger who is perfect for this team. He is frustrating at times as most wingers are. What he can offer is a cross like the one for Kodjia on Saturday, McGinn’s goal at Derby or Tammy’s at Boro.
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“Inconsistent” and “frustrating” are 2 words I would use to describe Bolasie...which is a significant improvement on what I thought about him against Swansea! He’s been playing well recently but he had a mare on Saturday even though he still put in the cross for the equaliser...he’s capable of the sublime but equally capable of blasting or shanking one into the Holte, or giving away possession cheaply. If the shit can be trained out of him then hopefully he’ll produce more sublime than crap.
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Like I said a few days ago, he's wasted out on the left wing. Play him on the right and he will be a lot more effective. I think overall he's been pretty decent given the amount of match time he's had.
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Based on the positions he gets himself into you expect more end product.
But what a talent.
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Like I said a few days ago, he's wasted out on the left wing. Play him on the right and he will be a lot more effective. I think overall he's been pretty decent given the amount of match time he's had.
I noticed on Saturday that a lot of our early attacks started from our right with Bolasie. He then swapped with El Ghazi and we attacked a lot more down the left. Whether it is a deliberate ploy to feed Bolasie more often or whether he was getting in the game more then El Ghazi, who was quiet all game.
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Bolasie is turning out better that I expected but he's exactly the type of player I expected in that he's dangerous but massively inconsistent. My concern was always that he wouldn't be consistent enough to be worth the cost, right now he's just about on the right side of that so I'm happy with him but he's still not as good as he should be.
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Bolasie is turning out better that I expected but he's exactly the type of player I expected in that he's dangerous but massively inconsistent. My concern was always that he wouldn't be consistent enough to be worth the cost, right now he's just about on the right side of that so I'm happy with him but he's still not as good as he should be.
Exactly my point he is no superstar but an adequate player at this level. My biggest grip about him is that he is constantly moaning. Enjoy the game man.
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He's the type of player that can win you games on his own at this level. He's not consistent enough for the PL and not someone if we do go up I'd like to last our 30m on. Everton got mugged.
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He's the type of player that can win you games on his own at this level. He's not consistent enough for the PL and not someone if we do go up I'd like to last our 30m on. Everton got mugged.
Wasn't he very good at Palace? That was a mess of an Everton side last season and very few if anyone shined in it. Wouldn't hold it against him.
Bolasie's pace and strength will always help him in this division but he hasn't come close to someone like Snodgrass' impact thus far.
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He's the type of player that can win you games on his own at this level. He's not consistent enough for the PL and not someone if we do go up I'd like to last our 30m on. Everton got mugged.
Wasn't he very good at Palace? That was a mess of an Everton side last season and very few if anyone shined in it. Wouldn't hold it against him.
Bolasie's pace and strength will always help him in this division but he hasn't come close to someone like Snodgrass' impact thus far.
A few motorway service station meals should sort that.
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Snoddy benefited hugely from his loan spell with us, even if he did put weight on whilst at VP. Has looked very good for west Ham this season.
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Snoddy benefited hugely from his loan spell with us, even if he did put weight on whilst at VP. Has looked very good for west Ham this season.
True dat; and he would still be with us were it not for tenuous takeover timings.
Still, both parties benefited from the loan arrangement.
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https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/competitions/championship/11590412/bolasies-filthy-nutmeg
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https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/competitions/championship/11590412/bolasies-filthy-nutmeg
With no end product, like most of his afternoon!
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Yesterday he bought depth and meaning to the expression "headless chicken".
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He won't make it anywhere until he plays for the team and has more consistency. Yes, it's lovely when it comes off, but I want him to do it so much more often, same as Jimmy Danger. Brilliant when it works, but they need to take the right decisions on the pitch. Keep it simple, stupid!
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I'd be bringing Adamoah back in. Should be one of Bolasie, Kodjia or El Ghazi on the other side until they start putting a shift in defensively.
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I'd be bringing Adamoah back in. Should be one of Bolasie, Kodjia or El Ghazi on the other side until they start putting a shift in defensively.
This.
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I still don't get why he's playing on the left. Put him out on the right and you'll see a more effective player. Smith is wrong playing him where he is.
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I still don't get why he's playing on the left. Put him out on the right and you'll see a more effective player. Smith is wrong playing him where he is.
He hasn't been playing exclusively on the left though. Him, Kodjie, El Ghazi and even Abraham have been pretty fluid in the positions along the front-line. Bolasie set-up McGinn's goal at Derby with a brilliant cross from the left-handside, as an example. Kodjia, set-up Hourihane's coming-in from the right-handside yesterday. I wouldn't say that Smith is doing anything wrong in terms of our attacking play.
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But his assists have mainly come from the right. He seems to be overdoing things on the left. Just my take on it though.
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His productivity has been pretty good though
But I agree our full backs need more protection. I'd play adomah and el ghazi v Swansea I think
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He makes kodja look like a team player
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His left foot is shite and he's lazy at tracking back.
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Still frustrating and inconsistent...flashes of genius one minute followed by idiotic decision making the next.
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Amazing how a defeat amplifies the criticism. Bolasie is one of the most exciting players I've seen in a Villa shirt for years. It's not his fault we have a collander for a back four and an absolute clown shoes for a keeper.
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Each to their own but I’d say that’s more indicative of the lack of quality or exciting players we’ve had for years than testament to Bolasies abilities. He can be exciting because no one can second guess what he’s going to do next...not even himself! Perfect example being that amazing piece of skill taking out 2 Leeds defenders...then that facepalm moment a few minutes later.
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He's got quite a few goals and assists already
I think he's done a fair bit more standard wing play than I'd expected. Knock it past a man and whip it in
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He's put my mind at rest in regards to worrying he would be a new N Zogbia, he's got a far better attitude than he had and is more effective as a result. He's also pretty damn entertaining at times, but to say he's one of the best of recent years even as shite as we've been would be a major overstatement. Snodgrass and for the most part Adomah were both better last season for starters.
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they were incomparably better, on assists and goals alone
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I'm still struggling to see what he brings to the party other than a couple of circus tricks. He's strong and powerful but not the footballer I've heard so many say he is. Maybe better on the other flank or coming off the bench but right now I just find him completely frustrating.
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I'm still struggling to see what he brings to the party other than a couple of circus tricks. He's strong and powerful but not the footballer I've heard so many say he is. Maybe better on the other flank or coming off the bench but right now I just find him completely frustrating.
Which is pretty much what Everton fans say about him even allowing for his injuries
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The think is he is stil more likely to pull something off than Adomah or the el gaz
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The think is he is stil more likely to pull something off than Adomah or the el gaz
Over 90 minutes? He's talented but from what I've seen, not a footballer. Circus act? Absolutely. If ever there was a footballer where the phrase, 'Shit or get off the pot' counted so much, he is that player. I'm not blaming his effort, I just don't think he's a £2.5m player, never mind a £25m player.
Snoddy he ain't but with his talent he could be so much more. Looks like a talent that missed or dismissed the training. I wish him the best but for me he's another passenger. All fart, no shit.
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He's frustrating but he contributes loads. His pass to Hutton in the build up to the goal was excellent. Pretty much every game he's played he has been involved in either creating chances or being on the end of them. But i've always loved unpredictable wingers, you know a lot of the time it won't come off but every time they get the ball you wonder if it's going to be one of those moments of brilliance you'll never forget.
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He's frustrating but he contributes loads. His pass to Hutton in the build up to the goal was excellent. Pretty much every game he's played he has been involved in either creating chances or being on the end of them. But i've always loved unpredictable wingers, you know a lot of the time it won't come off but every time they get the ball you wonder if it's going to be one of those moments of brilliance you'll never forget.
Ah, Tony Daley...
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The think is he is stil more likely to pull something off than Adomah or the el gaz
Over 90 minutes? He's talented but from what I've seen, not a footballer. Circus act? Absolutely. If ever there was a footballer where the phrase, 'Shit or get off the pot' counted so much, he is that player. I'm not blaming his effort, I just don't think he's a £2.5m player, never mind a £25m player.
Snoddy he ain't but with his talent he could be so much more. Looks like a talent that missed or dismissed the training. I wish him the best but for me he's another passenger. All fart, no shit.
Apart from all those goals he’s set up...
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When fit I feel that he and Albert will get the most game time as they’ve reacted far better to Dean’s style out of the 4 wingers we’re using and do the most tracking back and stay at far post to rescue wasted crosses from the opposite side.
Thoughts ?
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I agree. They seem to have a genuine rapport too. El Ghazi is probably a better player but is far more inconsistent. 1 and a half good games and he thinks he’s Ronaldo.
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I agree. They seem to have a genuine rapport too. El Ghazi is probably a better player but is far more inconsistent. 1 and a half good games and he thinks he’s Ronaldo.
Some fans compared him to Ronaldo. I don't think he did.
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To be fair, I thought he was Ronaldo after the boro game.
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The think is he is stil more likely to pull something off than Adomah or the el gaz
Over 90 minutes? He's talented but from what I've seen, not a footballer. Circus act? Absolutely. If ever there was a footballer where the phrase, 'Shit or get off the pot' counted so much, he is that player. I'm not blaming his effort, I just don't think he's a £2.5m player, never mind a £25m player.
Snoddy he ain't but with his talent he could be so much more. Looks like a talent that missed or dismissed the training. I wish him the best but for me he's another passenger. All fart, no shit.
Apart from all those goals he’s set up...
Four. A total he shares with Elmo. Same number of goals too (2).
I look forward to him proving me wrong during the rest of his time with us. As PWS will testify, as soon as I have a go at a player, they score. Hattrick at Preston? Fingers crossed.
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I think Bolasie has done alright since he properly came into our 11.
The issue is getting him the ball quickly enough to make an impact as off it he's a passenger and this was a problem v Leeds.
Stoke doubled up on him and he struggled to make an impression. As soon as Pieters went down he gets space and hit a brilliant cross for Kodjia goal.
I'd like to see Adomah on one side and Bolasie the other.
We know Albert is very disciplined so he can track back and he'll get his crosses in so that should give a bit more licence for a maverick like Bolasie to be more of a free spirit.
El Ghazi flatters to deceive. He's back to mediocre level.
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With Jack out of the side it's far easier for opponents to set up to stop our wingers
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Off the top of my head I can think of 8 goals we've scored because of him, on top of the 2g/4a mentioned, he's won a penalty and the pass to Hutton yesterday. Considering he still hasn't played 8 full games minutes wise for us, that not too shabby.
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He’s unpredictability is brilliant. Defenders don’t have a clue what he’s capable of. Same with El Ghazi. I know it doesn’t always work out and it’s fantastic when it does. I love quick, strong and trick wingers. It ain’t Villa without wing play.
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I think he’s very useful, he does silly stuff sometimes but his enigmatic play is a big asset.
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Off the top of my head I can think of 8 goals we've scored because of him, on top of the 2g/4a mentioned, he's won a penalty and the pass to Hutton yesterday. Considering he still hasn't played 8 full games minutes wise for us, that not too shabby.
I saw a stay earlier where he was averaging an assist every other game. One of the best in the league
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Assists don't tell it all, they only get counted if the ball ends up in the net.
It was a thing of beauty he was involved in yesterday. I'm luvvin 'im. As alluded to in that report put up in the Tactics thread, I like my wingers wingery, not simply little more than cover for the fullback.
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If you didn’t get excited by that amazing bit of skill he produced in the second half against Leeds then there’s no point following football.
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Off the top of my head I can think of 8 goals we've scored because of him, on top of the 2g/4a mentioned, he's won a penalty and the pass to Hutton yesterday. Considering he still hasn't played 8 full games minutes wise for us, that not too shabby.
I saw a stay earlier where he was averaging an assist every other game. One of the best in the league
Exactly
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If you didn’t get excited by that amazing bit of skill he produced in the second half against Leeds then there’s no point following football.
That’s about it.
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That wizardry against Leeds is the latest addition to my Scrapbook of Villa Magic Moments on the next page to Jack Grealish making a Sunderland defender fall on his arse without moving a muscle and Christian Benteke jumping higher than the crossbar to score against the same opposition. The photo of CB hangs on my bedroom wall where he is leaping so high the head of Andy Weimann (also leaping) is level with CB's waist.
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So poor yesterday it’s as if it was bolasie v Preston and if Preston got the better of him he would simply give up. He’s not a team player and that’s sad because he can contribute when he’s on it
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Needs a rest maybe?
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Whatever we are paying Bolaise it's too much in my opinion. I know many others will disagree but to me he's just not worth the money.
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I wouldnt have taken him off yesterday. I'd have switched him to the right and played Adomah on the left although that said, El Gahzi looked better towards the end of the game.
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A serious question. Just as clubs can recall players can loaned to clubs send players back?
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A serious question. Just as clubs can recall players can loaned to clubs send players back?
I am guessing it would be agreed in the contract. One would also imagine the loan fee cannot possibly add up to his enormous salary if there are any financial penalties in sending him back.
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I think Everton will be pleased now he’s starting games .I think if management say promotion isn’t important this season , some players will only go through the motions.
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He’d be a great keepie-uppie champion
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I thought we’d resigned Nzogbia
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Not the player he was before the injury sadly. He was out for over year and at 29, well Everton realised it and now we are.
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Has the swagger of couldn't really give a fuckness about him. If possible send him back, save on the enormous wages and learn the lesson(again) of buying/loaning players who haven't done fuck all for a while.
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Not the player he was before the injury sadly. He was out for over year and at 29, well Everton realised it and now we are.
Having accepted that he may not be the footballer he was before his injury, that does not excuse his couldn't give a shit performance that he put in yesterday. Compare him to Snodgrass, Bolasie is younger, probably still faster, technically more adept but lacks the desire Snodgrass had.
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I still think he's being played on the wrong side but he was a bit naff yesterday.
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Snodgrass is head and shoulders above this clown. A real leader as well, would make a great captain, not a paper one like we currently have.
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I still think he's being played on the wrong side but he was a bit naff yesterday.
Agreed, we would have been better off if he had played on the Hull side.
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Can’t believe we’re paying £70k a week for this man. I’d 100% return him now and just give Green/El Ghazi the wing slots until the summer. (We can’t send him back though unfortunately) His lack of work rate is a major reason we being exposed defensively too
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I can take the inconsistencies of a speedy, skilful winger all day.
I just can't accept the couldn't give a shit attitude. Yet another player we pay obscene wages to who is completely mugging us off.
I'd happily send him back to Everton and let Green play every game from now until the end of the season. Then DS can judge if he's good enough or whether he needs to buy a replacement in the Summer.
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I thought this bloke was great a few weeks ago, but he looks like he can't be arsed and he's getting worse by the game.
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Bolasie can unsign on loan
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That bloke will NEVER play top flight football again. Not a chance in hell. He's got China or American written all over him.
Seems like a nice bloke, but he just can't do it anymore
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Does he seem like a nice bloke?
If we've given up on promotion, which I don't think is a bad thing considering the rebuild required regardless of what division we're in, I'd consider how much out of pocket we'd be to give-up on our terms with Everton and if it's not material, send him back so we can get our own players up to speed for next season.
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Can we send him back this month?
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Problem is Deano keeps picking him it’s unbeliveable
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He's a steaming pile of shit and needs to be sent back if at all possible. Personifies everything that was rotten about Bruce's recruitment policy.
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Is he still here? Perhaps Everton are resisting his return - can't blame them
Unfortunately the epitome of the attitude of some young highly paid players who really are only in it for the riches .....it's just a job after all:(
I was hoping he would be keen to show his abilities after recovering from a bad injury - how do you motivate a young millionaire footballer ?? Performance related pay might be a start but I am sure the agents wouldn't be up for such a wage structure
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Is he still here? Perhaps Everton are resisting his return - can't blame them
Unfortunately the epitome of the attitude of some young highly paid players who really are only in it for the riches .....it's just a job after all:(
I was hoping he would be keen to show his abilities after recovering from a bad injury - how do you motivate a young millionaire footballer ?? Performance related pay might be a start but I am sure the agents wouldn't be up for such a wage structure
seems ok for harry kane
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Is he still here? Perhaps Everton are resisting his return - can't blame them
Unfortunately the epitome of the attitude of some young highly paid players who really are only in it for the riches .....it's just a job after all:(
I was hoping he would be keen to show his abilities after recovering from a bad injury - how do you motivate a young millionaire footballer ?? Performance related pay might be a start but I am sure the agents wouldn't be up for such a wage structure
seems ok for harry kane
it's down to the individuals` attitude I guess
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Does he seem like a nice bloke?
I had a brief exchange with him outside the ground when he first arrived and he seemed nice enough to me. Had time for all the kids wanting his autograph/photo as well. Full of smiles
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He's been sent back to Everton.
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Where have you heard that?
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He's been sent back to Everton.
Wow! Think that is the correct decision overall.
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About time. After a good start he's been awful of late. Too much money for no reward. Be good to give Green some minutes.
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Where have you heard that?
John Percy at the Telegraph has it.
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If this has been on the cards, then it seems even more bizarre playing him the past few weeks. Unless Saturday was the final straw?
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Seems it's true, folks. That Smith bloke doesn't hang around.
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Well done, Deano. Sets the absolute right example to the rest of them.
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Is this to free up another loan move ?
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AVFC Official have tweeted it now too
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Correct decision
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Is this to free up another loan move ?
Young kid from Chelsea ? Makes Andre’s return more sense now and as DS said last week, he doesn’t like loans as we are doing the coaching work to do other clubs work for them.
Moiera next I wonder ?
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I think He and Deano clashed from the very start.
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Is this to free up another loan move ?
You would have to presume so otherwise we might as well have kept him.
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Shame it didn't work out, he really should have been an asset but his attitude in the last month has been appalling. If that's been rubbing off and causing friction then Smith's absolutely right to send him packing. I don't think he'll be missed. We can certainly use that money better.
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Have a read of the first couple of pages of this thread from us fickle AV fans, gut wrenching !🤣🤣
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Is this to free up another loan move ?
Young kid from Chelsea ?
Just read that the Chelsea kid's gone to Ostersunds (if you mean Coklett).
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Only PWS seemed to defend him to the last but I think this is for the best.
Any chance we can bring Albrighton home now?
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Looks like he wanted out, rather than us sending him back.
https://twitter.com/Everton/status/1087379335428886531
"↪️ | Yannick Bolasie has returned to Everton Football Club today after he exercised an option in his loan agreement with Aston Villa."
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Have a read of the first couple of pages of this thread from us fickle AV fans, gut wrenching !🤣🤣
Unfortunately his enthusiasm at the start had completely disappeared by Saturday, so best all round to return to Everton. Bring someone in that wants to play
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Liverpool Echo are saying that he wanted to leave , and he triggered a clause to leave
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Looks like he wanted out, rather than us sending him back.
https://twitter.com/Everton/status/1087379335428886531
"↪️ | Yannick Bolasie has returned to Everton Football Club today after he exercised an option in his loan agreement with Aston Villa."
Their supporters sound delighted.
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Only PWS seemed to defend him to the last but I think this is for the best.
Any chance we can bring Albrighton home now?
The one that just signed an extension to his Leicester deal?
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Any chance we can bring Albrighton home now?
Unlikely as he signed a new deal with Leicester last week.
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That’s interesting, wonder why he wanted out.
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I was being purposefully wishful.
If Bolasie has made the decision that must mean we're off the hook for any early-termination fee to Everton.
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I stand by my comments from the first few pages (and on the speculation thread) he's just not consistent enough at any part of the game to be worth building your attack around, he's great as a wildcard to get something from nothing every now and then but you just don't get promoted on the back of players like that. What I said on the Hourihane thread holds true here as well, to see past his flaws his positives need to be better than 2 goals and 4 assists in 21 games.
I don't dislike him and I hope he does well wherever he ends up next but he's just not what we needed at all and Bruce sending Green on loan to get him in whilst having so many other problems in the squad is a big part of why Smith is our manager now.
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Well I guess we're saving a bundle on wages now. Whether we were paying half or all of it, either way it was a lot.
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He didn’t seem to have the ability or temperament to play that pressing game, Tammy was obviously unimpressed on Saturday that he wasn’t being helped.
When he was good he was very, very good but when he was bad he was wicked. He should have ripped the league up. He didn’t.
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Everton are welcome to him.
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That’s interesting, wonder why he wanted out.
I think he's just a lazy b***ard
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I think the club knew about this for a while - hence why Green was recalled?
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I think the club knew about this for a while - hence why Green was recalled?
Yes seems likely Green for Bolasie.
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I think the club knew about this for a while - hence why Green was recalled?
Not so sure about that, if he indicated he was off I’d doubt he would have started on Saturday.
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Why play him against Hull then where he could easily be injured?
Perhaps the reaction is more short term, whether it's us or him that's exercised the option.
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Evertonians sarcasm in plentiful supply on twitter in response to him triggering a clause to return.... they ain’t happy 🤣🤣
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Says in the article he wants to force his way into the Everton first team. That's a first team with Walcott and Richarlison among others as attacking options. Good luck with that Yannick.
He should have blown this league apart but clearly for the last two or three weeks at least something was up. I wonder whether this was always his plan from the start - get fit, go back. Why have a break clause otherwise?
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Liverpool Echo are saying that he wanted to leave , and he triggered a clause to leave
Any insights into what the clause was ?
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Liverpool Echo are saying that he wanted to leave , and he triggered a clause to leave
Any insights into what the clause was ?
That he could leave in January if he wanted?
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I think Bolasie leaving is a statement in one way or another
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Depending where Bolasie ends up in this window
If had an offer from premier league or abroad at higher level .
Or maybe something around playing minutes either the first half season hasn't met required matches he can leave ?
Or he's been told he won't make number of matches remaining so thought oh I'll go
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Says in the article he wants to force his way into the Everton first team. That's a first team with Walcott and Richarlison among others as attacking options. Good luck with that Yannick.
He should have blown this league apart but clearly for the last two or three weeks at least something was up. I wonder whether this was always his plan from the start - get fit, go back. Why have a break clause otherwise?
You could well be onto something there. Mid-Nobember to Mid-December we had a real player. Thereafter not so much.
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He'll end up exactly where he was previously. Going shopping in Liverpool every Saturday afternoon.
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I haven't seen much of him this season, but Everton fans don't seem hugely impressed by Walcott. Wouldn't be amazed if Yannick starts for them.
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Lookman is sensation young player and they have Brazilian called Bernard.
Those 2 are ahead of him and Walcott who he would be behind and Richarlison when he's not up front
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Mate who sits next to me is an Evertonian and he doesn't rate him at all and isn't impressed with the news.
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Hopefully Dean has sent him off with a packet of mince.
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I didn't think he was that bad. Some of his first time crosses from the right were very good but if he wanted out or Smithy wanted to get rid, then so be it. I am surprised by it though.
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Yes! Get in
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I think He and Deano clashed from the very start.
According to who?
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Good riddance.
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Looked great coming on in the 70th minute. Looked crap when in the starting line up.
Absolutely no loss at all, especially on ridiculous wages.
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Good news.
He’s not justified the huge wages.
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A very nice chunk of wages to spend on a good team player.
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Only PWS seemed to defend him to the last but I think this is for the best.
Any chance we can bring Albrighton home now?
Not really. Pretty sure the last positive thing I said about him was a month ago when he was still contributing, he's been poor since.
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I bet Everton are impressed by having his £75,000 back on the books and no place in the team for him. Going by the reaction of their fans he’s not going to get a hero’s welcome by them either. I can imagine being pulled up for his lack of work ethic made him decide to go back.
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There can't be many players that the fitter they got the worse they looked. He went from a real threat off the bench when half fit to pretty much a waste of a shirt when fit enough to start. Quite an achievement.
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Thanks for the late equalizer against Preston and about 5 good crosses and...err.. that's about it.
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There can't be many players that the fitter they got the worse they looked. He went from a real threat off the bench when half fit to pretty much a waste of a shirt when fit enough to start. Quite an achievement.
Pretty much sums it up.
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Let's hope that is the last time we get mugged off by PL players like Bolaise. We have been so much better off spending his salary on a couple of defenders, but Bruce fucked up royally.
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He's a steaming pile of shit and needs to be sent back if at all possible. Personifies everything that was rotten about Bruce's recruitment policy.
Nail. Head. Hit.
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The show pony’s show pony.
Immense talent but complete waste of space, I think he has issues.
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I think He and Deano clashed from the very start.
According to who?
According to me, hence. "I think"
I recall deano putting the boot in early on in his reign here. Bolasie came on as a sub then was dropped for the next game. I remember in an interview deano saying something like I've had a chat with him about the level of performance I expect from him.
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I'd assume that the 'It was triggered by the player' is a mechanism to allow him to save face. Sounds more positive than, he was f'd off for being consistently half arsed.
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100% wish him well, but frankly this hasn't bothered me one jot
He can't perform for more than 25 minutes a match and even then he's hit and miss
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Maybe this is why we have been so crap the last few weeks - bad egg in the camp?
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A poor decision to sign him when clearly not match fit. He was very erratic and certainly didn't justify that ridiculous salary. Which idiot signed-off this deal at the club??
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I honestly don't care who terminated it. It is the correct decision. £75k a week for virtually nothing for well over a month. Andre Green is probably his replacement. Good.
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Apart from a couple of goals and a couple of nice turns he has offered next to nothing. Good that he is going back. More pitch time for Green.
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Not sad to lose him at all. Very much a Bruce-type player who can produce a moment of individual brilliance and do nothing for the rest of the game.
He is not the future we are planning for.
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Obviously Deano read my post match comments on Saturday!
Took ages to get fit, looked threatening as an impact sub but useless as a starter, and on Saturday he just didn't look interested. Don't wish him any ill-will but his wages can be put to much better use now
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It matters not who decided he went back the main thing is that AVFC aren’t shelling out 70k a week on a passenger.
My guess would be that his lack of work rate, diabolical positional sense & very sporadic contributions in attacking areas have always had him & Dean at loggerheads & getting the hook (fully deservedly) on Saturday wounded the ego enough to trigger the going home discussion.
Let’s please make this the last overpaid Jonny Average who has achieved naff all mugging us off for huge wages without giving back.
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Good news.
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Looked good to start and tailed off. That said you could level that at a lot of players.
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He probably wanted to go back after reading the comments on here. Luckily for him he lasted until the 58th minute on Saturday before being hooked, that I think was 53 minutes too late. Given his lack of effort over the last few games it isn't surprising that we haven't got the results. We start with 10 men at best and given the performance of some of the others 9 or 8 sometimes.
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He put the ball out of play after literally 5 seconds on Saturday. After that appalling quarter-arsed performance he can do one, quite frankly.
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some good news
one small reason why loans are alright sometimes as we are not stuck with like a Richards or Nzogbia
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That'll be a loan space freed up then! Waste of space, waste of money, won't get into the Everton side either. 300k a month!! Waster and I don't care who finished with who, it's a great decision.
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The show pony’s show pony.
Immense talent but complete waste of space, I think he has issues.
The roll call of clubs on his cv perhaps suggest otherwise. Plymouth Argyle, Barnet, Bristol City doesn't suggest world beater.
Although I'm with PWS a bit, he was exciting. Just not often enough.
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After his half arsed performance at Wigan and against Hull am glad to see the back of him to be honest .The Everton fans i talk to dont think much of him either.Hopefully the money we save on him will help bring in a couple of new players
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This has surprised me although I imagine finances have also played a part and we can get better value from cheaper loan or permanent signing.
Would've sent El Ghazi back instead personally.
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thatcherlover on twitter who has been accurate before on signings etc but is staring to become a DS out man has stated that Elphick, Steer and Green going out on loan was to free up the cash for Bolasie's wages so back to square one really now he's gone and they are all back so £70k pw isn't really back in the kitty?
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Not a chance that those 3 are on dnywhere near 70k between them. I doubt its even half of that.
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thatcherlover on twitter who has been accurate before on signings etc but is staring to become a DS out man has stated that Elphick, Steer and Green going out on loan was to free up the cash for Bolasie's wages so back to square one really now he's gone and they are all back so £70k pw isn't really back in the kitty?
That would seem to be overly coincidental to me.
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Dare i say, "God is Great!"
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Glad he's gone, I got sucked in by him at the start but quickly realised we were paying way to much for loads of step overs and the occasional trick, looks like Andre Green was brought back in readiness for Bolasie leaving, at least Andre gives a shit.
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Bolasie has lost a yard of pace, no where near the player he was at Palace. He simply can't cut it anymore - not even in the Championship let alone the Premier League!
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Frees up money for Cahill
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Not a chance that those 3 are on dnywhere near 70k between them. I doubt its even half of that.
Maybe we were only ever paying half of Bolasie's wages in which case £35k a week for those three sounds plausible.
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Not a chance that those 3 are on dnywhere near 70k between them. I doubt its even half of that.
Maybe we were only ever paying half of Bolasie's wages in which case £35k a week for those three sounds plausible.
Think I read Elphick was on 30k when he joined. Didn't Green get a new contract a while back although doubt he'll be on a huge amount, same for Steer.
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The nice bit of skill he did against Leeds where he skinned two of their players summed him up perfectly. Capable of beating a man or two, but not capable often enough to do something productive with the ball once he had.
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Disastrous signing from Bruce. We certainly needed pace at the top of the pitch but Bolasie was miles behind in terms of fitness from day one. Did he even complete 90 mins once for us? There were flashes of quality at times, he had a decent game v West Brom but little or nothing since. Never saw anything from him to suggest he was keen to get his career back on track, polar opposite of Snodgrass.
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Bolasie was just another aimless punt by a useless manager.
For what it’s worth, Yannick seems like a decent chap. Not what Villa need at all, however.
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The feeling on the Everton boards.
(https://i.ibb.co/MNDmd8J/07157-E49-C6-FF-4-F2-F-9-E80-DF2-E2-AADBB46.png) (https://ibb.co/MNDmd8J)
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Good riddance - exactly the sort of player that isn't going to help Dean take us forward. The housekeeping has begun
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Good riddance - exactly the sort of player that isn't going to help Dean take us forward. The housekeeping has begun
Agree.
Never a Dean Smith player in a million years.
If Bruce was still here he'd still be a Villa player until May.
Can we stop with the individual marquee signings and go about building a team unit?
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Didnt realise that Villa are a rehabilitation centre. Bye-bye Bolasie
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Looks like we’re starting to clean house.
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People aren't going to generally moan about this because of his lack of produce overall.
Maybe Bolasie was told he would only be used sparingly and that causes him to leave .
I also aware Smith isn't one for all the crossing from wingers which what the squad was set up for and is a strength.
It's also smells of cost cutting.
Bruce signed Bolasie for a variety of reasons.
I expect he's left for a variety of reasons.
He's been replaced by Andre Green which is decent in many many ways wise and I think Greeny could even play up front.
Anyway good luck to him appreciate his footyskillz & outrageous nutmegs .
Goodbye Yannick
21 appearances.
Had 9 starts 3 assists
12 times as sub. Scored 2 goals 1 assist
In those 21 appearances had 25 shots 7 on target.
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Hmm.
He hasn't been too clever the last few games, but then not many of our lot have post Grealish injury.
A feature of our play when we looked lively round Nov-Dec was our wide options and how we could bring a player like Bolasie off the bench to keep up the pressure.
I won't argue that he's been value for money if we were forking out anywhere close to £75k per week. But seeing as Middlesborough were the other side in for him at the time, I'm not sure that figure is accurate.
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The facts are Villa were maybe the only club he would play for at this level and how we could also afford.
Short term move but understandable at the time .
Bruce would have him in at Wednesday I'm sure but they couldn't afford and he wouldn't go
I like Bruce to take Elmo off us and even Albert providing have a decent replacement or idea to play without Albert loss making too much impact
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Bet he goes on loan to Palace for the rest of the season.
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thatcherlover on twitter who has been accurate before on signings etc but is staring to become a DS out man has stated that Elphick, Steer and Green going out on loan was to free up the cash for Bolasie's wages so back to square one really now he's gone and they are all back so £70k pw isn't really back in the kitty?
ThatcherLover make a shit up.
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" We can't even give him away" is the headlines in this evenings Liverpool Echo from a couple of Everton fans
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One of 'em init. If he'd worked out and we were up the top of the league then you'd still be a bit dubious about signing him permanently if we went went up because of his age and his cost. As it is, he's not worked out, he's not a DS signing and you feel the money on wages could go somewhere better. If its means we strengthen elsewhere then i don't see any downside.
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I'd assume that the 'It was triggered by the player' is a mechanism to allow him to save face. Sounds more positive than, he was f'd off for being consistently half arsed.
Or...It was triggered by the player?
Not as exciting or as positive for us as, 'he was a bad egg' or 'finally Villa are getting it right', admittedly.
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The facts are Villa were maybe the only club he would play for at this level and how we could also afford.
Short term move but understandable at the time .
Bruce would have him in at Wednesday I'm sure but they couldn't afford and he wouldn't go
I like Bruce to take Elmo off us and even Albert providing have a decent replacement or idea to play without Albert loss making too much impact
No chance of AA playing for Bruce again after the way he treated him last summer.
Glenn Whelan maybe, former Sheff Wed player...
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Yeah trigger by the player but may have been told you're not an automatic first choice or you're role will be a bench one perhaps ?
Bolasie does want to get playing again and needs a consistent run to gain back his match playing experience.
Smith didn't feel he's suited to having his re developing here I guess .
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The facts are Villa were maybe the only club he would play for at this level and how we could also afford.
Short term move but understandable at the time .
Bruce would have him in at Wednesday I'm sure but they couldn't afford and he wouldn't go
I like Bruce to take Elmo off us and even Albert providing have a decent replacement or idea to play without Albert loss making too much impact
No chance of AA playing for Bruce again after the way he treated him last summer.
Glenn Whelan maybe, former Sheff Wed player...
Good point.give you that on Albert .
I give you Whelan to see O'Neill at Forest be nice for them both
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The facts are Villa were maybe the only club he would play for at this level and how we could also afford.
Short term move but understandable at the time .
Bruce would have him in at Wednesday I'm sure but they couldn't afford and he wouldn't go
I like Bruce to take Elmo off us and even Albert providing have a decent replacement or idea to play without Albert loss making too much impact
No chance of AA playing for Bruce again after the way he treated him last summer.
Glenn Whelan maybe, former Sheff Wed player...
Good point.give you that on Albert .
I give you Whelan to see O'Neill at Forest be nice for them both
Be nice for us as well.
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I think it’s more likely he will end up at Palace again.
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I can't imagine Bruce will be in for whelan. He was a short-term buy to get us up and even he must realise he''s completely shot now.
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Kodjia aside, have we had ONE other successful Francophone player (or manager) in our history? Really strange, seems to be a curse.
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What is a francophone ??
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francophone
/ˈfraŋkə(ʊ)fəʊn/Submit
adjective
1.
French-speaking.
"a summit of francophone countries"
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There was a moment Saturday when he couldn't out run the full back and it did seem like he'd lost a yard.
Funny decision to make and perhaps he'd made it a few weeks ago. On current form, no loss at all.
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thatcherlover on twitter who has been accurate before on signings etc but is staring to become a DS out man has stated that Elphick, Steer and Green going out on loan was to free up the cash for Bolasie's wages so back to square one really now he's gone and they are all back so £70k pw isn't really back in the kitty?
ThatcherLover make a shit up.
Was just going to say that. Even in the context of Twitter, he is one massive, bullshitting twat.
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"Yannick Bolasie is returning to Everton after the player exercised an option to return to his parent club," said a Villa statement.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46950239
No need to guess anymore. It's official.
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Does it really matter?
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What is a francophone ??
French Speaking.
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Ahh thank you
Well I read on Aston Villa website that hatel Tuanzebe speaks french . Kodjia says that helps and they are buddies
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Does it really matter?
It was obvious from some of the comments that people were unsure what had happened. So I posted a link for clarity. It saves people making stuff up. It might even be considered helpful in some quarters.
;)
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Ah yes, Tuanzebe’s been decent, you’re right.
Others I can think of: Six, Ginola, Djemba-Djemba, Beye, Makoun, Pires, Gueye, Bolasie, Veretout, Amavi, Ayew, Agathe, Cissokho, Gestede, N’Zogbia, Berson, Sylla (managers Houllier and Garde). Some of them good players but not for us.
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Does it really matter?
It was obvious from some of the comments that people were unsure what had happened. So I posted a link for clarity. It saves people making stuff up. It might even be considered helpful in some quarters.
;)
So no, it doesn't really matter. He's gone, the whys and wherefores aren't really that important unless there's another point you want to be making.
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I watched Amavi on Fox yesterday looked very comfortable playing left back, I wish we had given him longer.
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John Carew played for Lyon for three years so I'd assume he can speak French.
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Oh, and Benteke.
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"Yannick Bolasie is returning to Everton after the player exercised an option to return to his parent club," said a Villa statement.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46950239
No need to guess anymore. It's official.
What is official?
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Does it really matter?
It was obvious from some of the comments that people were unsure what had happened. So I posted a link for clarity. It saves people making stuff up. It might even be considered helpful in some quarters.
;)
So no, it doesn't really matter. He's gone, the whys and wherefores aren't really that important unless there's another point you want to be making.
Nothing really matters on here. It's one of millions of forums where people chat about stuff whilst they've nothing really interesting or important to do. I
I can run my comments by you first though, if it's a problem?
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Does it really matter?
It was obvious from some of the comments that people were unsure what had happened. So I posted a link for clarity. It saves people making stuff up. It might even be considered helpful in some quarters.
;)
So no, it doesn't really matter. He's gone, the whys and wherefores aren't really that important unless there's another point you want to be making.
Nothing really matters on here. It's one of millions of forums where people chat about stuff whilst they've nothing really interesting or important to do. I
I can run my comments by you first though, if it's a problem?
Do what you like. Just don't get upset if someone disagrees with you.
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Nothing really matters on here. It's one of millions of forums where people chat about stuff whilst they've nothing really interesting or important to do.
I'll have you know I have plenty of important things to do and I come on here precisely so that I don't have to do them.
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Good riddance.
Perfectly summed up.
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I watched Amavi on Fox yesterday looked very comfortable playing left back, I wish we had given him longer.
Didn't we do a deal with him that he stayed with us and if we didn't go up we'd let him go.
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Does it really matter?
It was obvious from some of the comments that people were unsure what had happened. So I posted a link for clarity. It saves people making stuff up. It might even be considered helpful in some quarters.
;)
So no, it doesn't really matter. He's gone, the whys and wherefores aren't really that important unless there's another point you want to be making.
Nothing really matters on here. It's one of millions of forums where people chat about stuff whilst they've nothing really interesting or important to do. I
I can run my comments by you first though, if it's a problem?
For what it’s worth Villa75 I found it useful as it’s nice sometimes to have a few facts in these discussions and not conjecture 👍
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Bag of shite. Good riddance. Return to sender.
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Bloody hell Villa75, can there be a thread left where your not winding someone up?
I quite liked this fella at first, he seemed exciting maybe a little unpredictable. He’s certainly become quite stale for somereason and off the pace. This seems for the best.
I’m talking about Bolasie by the way, not Villa75.
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put it this way, I lost a £20 bet that he'd not last a game for us andf I couldn't be happier that he is no longer here. That geezer with the Bagpipes has already received the money
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You nearly won it. He couldn't run properly for his first half dozen appearances without looking like he was shot and when he finally neared full fitness he couldn't be arsed with the donkey work of tracking back.
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Disaster loan, spent months getting ''match fit'' threw in a few games, then threw in the towel. Rubbish Brucey transfer dealings by numbers again.
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I think getting him off the wage bill will enable us to go out and get two or three player's in place of him instead of paying him that amount of money each week.
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I think it's relevant who activated it. If it was activated by us you may think it was part of a wider plan, possibly involving more than just recalling Green. As it's activated by the player we don't know if Smith is ok with it or left a bit in the lurch with 9 days left in the transfer window.
Personally I thought he flattered to deceive, but if we got to the play off final I would have liked to have him as an option in a one off big game.
I hope we weren't paying his full wages though, £70k is madness for a Championship club with FFP concerns.
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According to some reports, he had a clause put in his loan that said he could pack up after Jan 20th, so he texted Villa to inform them that he wouldn't be coming back on Sunday night.
Waste of space, attitude was wrong from the start, good riddance show pony.
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looks like a case of quit before you're sacked to me. If he heads off on loan elsewhere before the end of the month I stand corrected.
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According to some reports, he had a clause put in his loan that said he could pack up after Jan 20th, so he texted Villa to inform them that he wouldn't be coming back on Sunday night.
Waste of space, attitude was wrong from the start, good riddance show pony.
Howard Hodgeson knows his agent and has confirmed we were in fact picking up his entire wage. Absolutely f'ing criminal waste of money
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GOOD RIDDANCE YOU USELESS FUCKING YAMPY ******
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It’s all a bit strange after he was ‘supposedly’ commenting on Tammy leaving via social media.
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I think it's relevant who activated it. If it was activated by us you may think it was part of a wider plan
Yes I agree with this. Bolasie activating it gives more cause for concern. From what I saw against Swansea in the cup, away at Wigan and the first half against Hull, it looked like the players had no interest in playing for the manager. Whatever your thoughts on his performances, Bolasie choosing to go back only adds to that impression. It was hardly as though he was sitting on the bench every week
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I think it's relevant who activated it. If it was activated by us you may think it was part of a wider plan
Yes I agree with this. Bolasie activating it gives more cause for concern. From what I saw against Swansea in the cup, away at Wigan and the first half against Hull, it looked like the players had no interest in playing for the manager. Whatever your thoughts on his performances, Bolasie choosing to go back only adds to that impression. It was hardly as though he was sitting on the bench every week
If true, then likely because Smith has read them the riot act and many of them have thrown their dummy out of the pram - I said on another thread that this squad has serious character flaws and aside a few, most don’t fit the mould of what you need to succeed - raw talent isn’t enough - so good riddance, they can fuck off too
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He has his' brand' to look after. If you're struggling to make the grade in the championship then why the hell would you draw attention to it by staying here for another 6 months? That's the risk for premiership players stepping down on loan, you can end up damaging your value to the club loaning and you're future earnings. It's why we got stuck with loads of deadwood during the Lerner years
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Some of these comments remind me of my mate, when his wife left him.
"Yes, she left me. But she only did that because she knew I'd get rid of her one day. Probably. She wasn't good enough for me anyway!"
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Some of these comments remind me of my mate, when his wife left him.
"Yes, she left me. But she only did that because she knew I'd get rid of her one day. Probably. She wasn't good enough for me anyway!"
She probably kept promising him the earth - but always let him down before the climax.
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Some of these comments remind me of my mate, when his wife left him.
"Yes, she left me. But she only did that because she knew I'd get rid of her one day. Probably. She wasn't good enough for me anyway!"
She probably kept promising him the earth - but always let him down before the climax.
Unfortunately, it was the other way around. 😂
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I think it's relevant who activated it. If it was activated by us you may think it was part of a wider plan
Yes I agree with this. Bolasie activating it gives more cause for concern. From what I saw against Swansea in the cup, away at Wigan and the first half against Hull, it looked like the players had no interest in playing for the manager. Whatever your thoughts on his performances, Bolasie choosing to go back only adds to that impression. It was hardly as though he was sitting on the bench every week
The players had no interest playing for the manager first half against Hull but then after a half time cuppa they decided they were wrong and should play for him instead. Fuck me, there's some shite spouted here sometimes.
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I think it's relevant who activated it. If it was activated by us you may think it was part of a wider plan
Yes I agree with this. Bolasie activating it gives more cause for concern. From what I saw against Swansea in the cup, away at Wigan and the first half against Hull, it looked like the players had no interest in playing for the manager. Whatever your thoughts on his performances, Bolasie choosing to go back only adds to that impression. It was hardly as though he was sitting on the bench every week
The players had no interest playing for the manager first half against Hull but then after a half time cuppa they decided they were wrong and should play for him instead. Fuck me, there's some shite spouted here sometimes.
We hardly stormed the 2nd half! The first half was so embarrassingly poor that a mediocre 2nd half looked better than it actually was.
They lost a defender to injury just before we scored almost on half time, despite us not being in the game. I would suggest them losing a player, and our late first half goal, probably lifted our players up to the dizzy heights of mediocrity, rather than Smith's half time team talk.
Either way, we shouldn't exaggerate the 2nd half performance above what it was. We had 2 shots on target the whole game. At Home. To Hull.
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As soon as the half started they began pressing and chasing down the opposition, a vast improvement on what went on before. Therefore, I/we can assume that they were reminded by the manager what was expected of them. They weren't as good as they have been 2nd half but showed that they've not completely gone to shit. And, Villa looked the more likely winners of the game even taking into account the very good chance Hull had near the end.
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The second half was a massive improvement. Anyone who was at the Cup game or Wigan will tell you that. Not good enough overall, but it could have been a lot worse.
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I think it's relevant who activated it. If it was activated by us you may think it was part of a wider plan
Yes I agree with this. Bolasie activating it gives more cause for concern. From what I saw against Swansea in the cup, away at Wigan and the first half against Hull, it looked like the players had no interest in playing for the manager. Whatever your thoughts on his performances, Bolasie choosing to go back only adds to that impression. It was hardly as though he was sitting on the bench every week
The players had no interest playing for the manager first half against Hull but then after a half time cuppa they decided they were wrong and should play for him instead. Fuck me, there's some shite spouted here sometimes.
We hardly stormed the 2nd half! The first half was so embarrassingly poor that a mediocre 2nd half looked better than it actually was.
They lost a defender to injury just before we scored almost on half time, despite us not being in the game. I would suggest them losing a player, and our late first half goal, probably lifted our players up to the dizzy heights of mediocrity, rather than Smith's half time team talk.
Either way, we shouldn't exaggerate the 2nd half performance above what it was. We had 2 shots on target the whole game. At Home. To Hull.
You said that he's lost the dressing room, yet somehow we come back from 2-0 down, despite the players not being bothered. How did it happen? Luck? You talk shite.
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I think it's relevant who activated it. If it was activated by us you may think it was part of a wider plan
Yes I agree with this. Bolasie activating it gives more cause for concern. From what I saw against Swansea in the cup, away at Wigan and the first half against Hull, it looked like the players had no interest in playing for the manager. Whatever your thoughts on his performances, Bolasie choosing to go back only adds to that impression. It was hardly as though he was sitting on the bench every week
The players had no interest playing for the manager first half against Hull but then after a half time cuppa they decided they were wrong and should play for him instead. Fuck me, there's some shite spouted here sometimes.
We hardly stormed the 2nd half! The first half was so embarrassingly poor that a mediocre 2nd half looked better than it actually was.
They lost a defender to injury just before we scored almost on half time, despite us not being in the game. I would suggest them losing a player, and our late first half goal, probably lifted our players up to the dizzy heights of mediocrity, rather than Smith's half time team talk.
Either way, we shouldn't exaggerate the 2nd half performance above what it was. We had 2 shots on target the whole game. At Home. To Hull.
You said that he's lost the dressing room, yet somehow we come back from 2-0 down, despite the players not being bothered. How did it happen? Luck? You talk shite.
This. You don't suddenly want to start playing for the manager after 45 minutes of not bothering. Utter nonsense.
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Is there any reason to believe that the mythical ''losing of the dressing room'' has occurred again, a couple of games after smashing teams? Apart from it being over reactionary nonsense? The bottom line is we are an average team, with too many aged players and loan players in key positions and our best player out injured, it's not rocket science, there's no conspiracy theory needed. Especially one that makes as little sense as players minds chopping and changing from half to half.
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You wonder whether the uncertainty around ins and outs in January effects the mood and level of performance. We went through a similar shit period in Bruce's first season after a decent start, the shit period being from around Xmas to sometime in Feb after which it picked up again. To me, were a team of loanees, past it's, never will be's and not quites, and the squad is still hopelessly unbalanced.
***with the exception of Grealish, McGinn, Kodjia & Chester when played in the right position and hopefully the GK will work out.
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Lost the dressing room? What rubbish. As Mr Agbonlahor of Aston would say ‘some people like to chat shit’. Never mind the shots on goal count, it’s effort, movement, commitment that’s matters, can’t count those so must be invisible to some.
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We pressed well, weren't quite as incisive ad we had been pre-Stoke, but still created 18 chances and were the better side. It was a lot better and there was effort and endeavour which needs a splash of quality and confidence. Hopefully Reading and Ipswich, with Jack and reinforcements can provide ahead of Sheffield United, Stripey Filth and Brentford.
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Please don’t suggest that maybe, bad apples like Yanick Shownoat was having a negative impact on morale.
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I think it's relevant who activated it. If it was activated by us you may think it was part of a wider plan
Yes I agree with this. Bolasie activating it gives more cause for concern. From what I saw against Swansea in the cup, away at Wigan and the first half against Hull, it looked like the players had no interest in playing for the manager. Whatever your thoughts on his performances, Bolasie choosing to go back only adds to that impression. It was hardly as though he was sitting on the bench every week
The players had no interest playing for the manager first half against Hull but then after a half time cuppa they decided they were wrong and should play for him instead. Fuck me, there's some shite spouted here sometimes.
We hardly stormed the 2nd half! The first half was so embarrassingly poor that a mediocre 2nd half looked better than it actually was.
They lost a defender to injury just before we scored almost on half time, despite us not being in the game. I would suggest them losing a player, and our late first half goal, probably lifted our players up to the dizzy heights of mediocrity, rather than Smith's half time team talk.
Either way, we shouldn't exaggerate the 2nd half performance above what it was. We had 2 shots on target the whole game. At Home. To Hull.
You said that he's lost the dressing room, yet somehow we come back from 2-0 down, despite the players not being bothered. How did it happen? Luck? You talk shite.
Where did I say he's lost the dressing room?
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You said the players had no interest in playing for Smith in the first half on Saturday. Sounds to me like you were suggesting he'd lost the dressing room.
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You said the players had no interest in playing for Smith in the first half on Saturday. Sounds to me like you were suggesting he'd lost the dressing room.
Again. Where did I say that?
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Here?
I thought that's what we've been doing for the last few seasons/managers?
I'd rather get promoted, by book or by crook, gaining millions to help us rebuild and becoming a more attractive proposition to decent players.
Telling a squad they don't need to worry about promotion, at a club expected to be challenging, is rarely going to have them busting a gut. It might even have them thinking, 'why am I here?'
Close enough at least.
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You said the players had no interest in playing for Smith in the first half on Saturday. Sounds to me like you were suggesting he'd lost the dressing room.
Again. Where did I say that?
Sorry, I mis-read who had posted it. Bloody quotathons.
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Here?
I thought that's what we've been doing for the last few seasons/managers?
I'd rather get promoted, by book or by crook, gaining millions to help us rebuild and becoming a more attractive proposition to decent players.
Telling a squad they don't need to worry about promotion, at a club expected to be challenging, is rarely going to have them busting a gut. It might even have them thinking, 'why am I here?'
Close enough at least.
Nowhere near.
Also, it's the owners telling all and sundry they don't need to worry about failure, not the manager.
It's not impossible it will have some negative effect on all concerned, including Smith.
I've never been in a job where the owners tell everyone not to worry about failure but, if they had, I can certainly see it would hardly have a motivating effect. Quite the opposite for some.
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When did the owners tell all and sundry that we don't need to worry about promotion?
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Here?
I thought that's what we've been doing for the last few seasons/managers?
I'd rather get promoted, by book or by crook, gaining millions to help us rebuild and becoming a more attractive proposition to decent players.
Telling a squad they don't need to worry about promotion, at a club expected to be challenging, is rarely going to have them busting a gut. It might even have them thinking, 'why am I here?'
Close enough at least.
Nowhere near.
Also, it's the owners telling all and sundry they don't need to worry about failure, not the manager.
It's not impossible it will have some negative effect on all concerned, including Smith.
I've never been in a job where the owners tell everyone not to worry about failure but, if they had, I can certainly see it would hardly have a motivating effect. Quite the opposite for some.
As far as I'm concerned there's not a huge amount between suggesting players are questioning why they're here and saying players don't want to play for the manager, as I said, it's close enough that I'm not surprised someone mistook a comment like that as being yours. I know it's not the manager you're pointing fingers at with it but you suggested that the motivation/morale had gone and that just doesn't stand up to scrutiny, we've just not played very well, there are reasons for it (which probably don't belong on this thread) but a lack of motivation isn't high on that list.
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When did the owners tell all and sundry that we don't need to worry about promotion?
They didn't. Purslow just said it wasn't imperative promotion was achieved this season and that essentially it was far more importantly we build for a sustainable future. What most took from that is let's invest wisely, don't take short term positions like we have done with a number of the signings and loans we've made often of crazy contracts to secure a fast return to the PL. Instead buy wisely, invest in our academy system and implement a sensible longer term plan for success.
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When did the owners tell all and sundry that we don't need to worry about promotion?
They didn't. Purslow just said it wasn't imperative promotion was achieved this season and that essentially it was far more importantly we build for a sustainable future. What most took from that is let's invest wisely, don't take short term positions like we have done with a number of the signings and loans we've made often of crazy contracts to secure a fast return to the PL. Instead buy wisely, invest in our academy system and implement a sensible longer term plan for success.
Hopefully Purslow really isn't bluffing as I pretty much remember Wyness saying the same stuff at some point last season.
The reality is we need to get promoted sooner or later. Not just for club prestige but we will be losing parachute payments soon which has helped us fund our transfer sprees down here and obviously FFP becomes more of an issue each season we don't go up.
At least a slower transfer window means the team might be developed naturally for once rather than quick fixes all over the 11. One thing they have got right is to lower the average age of the squad but that's more likely to fully happen in the summer.
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I can imagine for health and well being Bolasie had to go as he was causing Deano upset both on and off the ball with his pressing.
Smithy repeatedly shouted "Yannick attack"
Bolasie thought the usually calm Smith was suffering and did the decent thing and terminated his loan.
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BoLassie gone home !.................................Godzvilla!
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BoLassie gone home !.................................Godzvilla!
made me snigger
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Poor old Everton fans, along with Walcott, they've now got 2 crap wingers on their books.
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Middlesbrough apparently trying to offload some, in order to take Bolasie
now we have got him fitter & given him game time
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And a kick up the arse.
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I bet Boro wouldn't be paying the full £70k a week whack if they did get him in like we were. Purslow was very clear at the Trust AGM about clearing dead wood and money hungry shit contracts out. This is just the start.
He did put his cards in but after DS made his role over the next few months clear.
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Without exception every Evertonian I have spoken with is totally underwhelmed at his return to Merseyside - says it all about the player
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Without exception every Evertonian I have spoken with is totally underwhelmed at his return to Merseyside - says it all about the player
And the fact that they have to fork out the princely sum, sorry, wasted sum, of 75k a week.
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I think it's relevant who activated it. If it was activated by us you may think it was part of a wider plan
Yes I agree with this. Bolasie activating it gives more cause for concern. From what I saw against Swansea in the cup, away at Wigan and the first half against Hull, it looked like the players had no interest in playing for the manager. Whatever your thoughts on his performances, Bolasie choosing to go back only adds to that impression. It was hardly as though he was sitting on the bench every week
The players had no interest playing for the manager first half against Hull but then after a half time cuppa they decided they were wrong and should play for him instead. Fuck me, there's some shite spouted here sometimes.
Not quite sure that is right. There was only a slight improvement in the second half and tbh it'd have been quite an achievement have gotten any worse
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We were much better 2nd half and easily the better side. Not enough cutting edge, but off the ball we were 100% better.
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We were much better 2nd half and easily the better side. Not enough cutting edge, but off the ball we were 100% better.
As has been said we were that bad in the 1st half that being mediocre in the 2nd half was a massive improvement.
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The Guardian reporting that Bolasie didn't inform Silva that he was cutting his loan deal short, and that Silva is unimpressed at having his wages back on the books and that he has no future at the club...
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Or dean smith had a go at him for not giving 100%.
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How is he going to play in the premiership. We can all dream but few of us achieve.
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Quote from BBC Sport "Paris St-Germain have made a bid of £21.5m to sign Everton's Senegal midfielder Idrissa Gueye - but the Toffees say the 29-year-old is not for sale".
Everton have clearly done better out of recent deals between the 2 clubs. How much did we sell him for?
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£7m if memory serves
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9m wasn’t it? Wonder if there was a sell on included? If there was was it cashed in last yr with the £’s meltdown?
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I think Gueye had a set fee that he could leave for in his contract if we got relegated - which we did 🤔.
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I think Gueye had a set fee that he could leave for in his contract if we got relegated - which we did 🤔.
Yes so no need for a sell on clause.
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Quote from BBC Sport "Paris St-Germain have made a bid of £21.5m to sign Everton's Senegal midfielder Idrissa Gueye - but the Toffees say the 29-year-old is not for sale".
Everton have clearly done better out of recent deals between the 2 clubs. How much did we sell him for?
No not really as player transfer inflation has gone through the roof since his transfer. Remember Everton paid £45 Million for Sigurdson.
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Anderlecht in for Bloasie according to BBC Sport. Why? Surely they must have seen some of his Villa performances, and at Everton. Unless they get him for peanuts I just don't understand that. They must have better wingers than him in the stiffs.
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Sky sports reporting that Bolasie is advanced talks to Anderlect and is travelling there to finalise the deal.
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Signed for Anderlecht
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Signed for Anderlecht
I think that clarifies the rumours.
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For 6 months only, according to the BBC.
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Best changing room that man was in was Villa's. Bare, man:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1762930265754644901
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I actually forgot he played for us. That all seems so long ago now.
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He was a wicked player, I wish we'd got him earlier.
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Man it was depressing catching up on this thread.