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Title: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: Ger Regan on August 25, 2018, 11:06:55 AM
Didn't spot a thread for him, so here you go.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Londonvilla on August 25, 2018, 11:08:58 AM
New signing | Yannick Bolasie



Welcome, Yannick...............take us back to where we belong
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Monty on August 25, 2018, 11:09:42 AM
I think this is great. Very gifted player.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: SoccerHQ on August 25, 2018, 11:11:42 AM
Welcome.

Was excellent at Palace so if he brings that form it's all good.

Bit worried he hasn't looked great since the bad injury that kept him out for a year.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 25, 2018, 11:14:34 AM
Welcome Yannick.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: frank black on August 25, 2018, 11:14:52 AM
Hi
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Newby on August 25, 2018, 11:17:45 AM
I said he was shit on another thread, hoping that we would get him and not Boro.  Obviously, there were terms and conditions attached to my previous post and now I understand him to be the very best player on earth.  Welcome Yannick, very much looking forward to him and Anwar playing together, UP THE VILLA.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Villafirst on August 25, 2018, 11:18:57 AM
Welcome Yannick! Now tear up this League!
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: manic-road on August 25, 2018, 11:19:22 AM
Took a while to get over the line but welcome Yannick.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on August 25, 2018, 11:19:23 AM
He said: "My main aim here is to get this club promoted. A club of this stature has to be in the Premier League.

"I looked around both Villa Park and the training ground, and me and my family just said, 'wow'. It's Premier League everywhere you look.

"I'm here to make myself smile again and use all my ability to try and help the team. It's great to be here."
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Monty on August 25, 2018, 11:20:18 AM
"It's Premier League everywhere you look." That's a f*cking great line.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: andyh on August 25, 2018, 11:30:51 AM
Spoke very well.
Welcome Yannick.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: wittonwarrior on August 25, 2018, 11:35:13 AM
Bombs down the wing for me we hate the city. Xxx. Welcome !
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Nev on August 25, 2018, 11:40:13 AM
Yanick on the streets of Aston,
Yanick on the streets of Birmingham, he's flying down the wing.

Oh Bolasie, oh Bolasie
Oh Bolasie, oh Bolasie,
Oh Bolasie, oh Bolasie, oh Bolasie,
etc,etc
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Ian J on August 25, 2018, 11:41:31 AM
Great interview, he sounds like he has a great attitude and belief. Could be a cracking signing. Welcome!
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: paul_e on August 25, 2018, 11:58:17 AM
I didn't really want him but now he's here I hope he proves me wrong and provides goals and assists.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: auntiesledd on August 25, 2018, 12:09:43 PM
Yay! Welcome to the Villa Mr B.

Here's to him being able to recapture the form he showed during his time at Palarse (and before his bad injury at Everton). If he does, he'll be a real boon for us & will have defenders cacking their kecks. Good luck Yannick.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Percy McCarthy on August 25, 2018, 12:13:39 PM
You tube reel:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LSk6jUa_8OU

Some pretty outrageous skills, and looks like he gets his head up at times.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Mister E on August 25, 2018, 12:20:07 PM
I didn't really want him but now he's here I hope he proves me wrong and provides goals and assists.
likewise.
He and Ghazi could be fierce together but I worry about our soft centre and lack of settled defence.
But - hey! - let’s wait and see how it all pans out.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Dave P on August 25, 2018, 12:42:03 PM
The Snodgrass of the double billionaire owner generation.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: DB on August 25, 2018, 12:53:15 PM
A bit like Traore
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 25, 2018, 12:55:41 PM
Maybe we will just win every game 4-3? Who wants one-nils anyway? 😊
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Villafirst on August 25, 2018, 12:58:09 PM
A bit like Traore

A definite upgrade on Traore!
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Three Spires Villa on August 25, 2018, 12:58:24 PM
Excellent, really happy about this
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: footyskillz on August 25, 2018, 01:00:19 PM
Will he be available today ?

Otherwise v Burton Tuesday !

Really great move better than touted Ojo or woodburn of Liverpool and the real Madrid youngster .

Different to snoddy but will offer a massive threat and I don't think many full backs will stop him in this league .

A direct running and footy skillz player will appreciate his forward forays and that he'll get villa up the the pitch

I hope Brucey plays both El Ghazi and Bolasie at same time

Pleased with this move and hope he can get playing again ! As he's some player
Utv !;
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: footyskillz on August 25, 2018, 01:04:59 PM
I didn't really want him but now he's here I hope he proves me wrong and provides goals and assists.

Why not ? Out of interesting any reasoning (I may have missed you saying sorry)

Is it his age ?
His injury record
Or his perhaps erratic style of play
How he will disrupt the squad  //team
balance ???

I do think he has ability and capable at championship level .

Are you of opinion ability wise he not a good fit or good enough ?

Yours curiously .
Footy
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: footyskillz on August 25, 2018, 01:11:11 PM
A bit like Traore

A definite upgrade on Traore!

Well let's see how Traore gets on when he comes in v man city as match is crying out for him and his pace will cause problems
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: sickbeggar on August 25, 2018, 01:29:57 PM
Wait and see i think. If he's broken like some Everton fans are claiming then we'll see if he's not all pace. I don't think he is tbh and hopefully he'll still be able to use his undoubted ability to make a difference even if he's lost some of the speed.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: dave shelley on August 25, 2018, 01:33:50 PM
Welcome Yannick, please do well for yourself and us.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: paul_e on August 25, 2018, 01:36:15 PM
I didn't really want him but now he's here I hope he proves me wrong and provides goals and assists.

Why not ? Out of interesting any reasoning (I may have missed you saying sorry)

Is it his age ?
His injury record
Or his perhaps erratic style of play
How he will disrupt the squad  //team
balance ???

I do think he has ability and capable at championship level .

Are you of opinion ability wise he not a good fit or good enough ?

Yours curiously .
Footy

It's that far too often he'll beat his man and then fuck up the next bit. Pretty much the same thing we said about Traore and the same thing Adomah got criticised for a few days ago.  Bolasie has always struggled with his crossing and his shooting is worse which is why, despite looking good on highlights, his record in terms of goals and assists isn't very impressive.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 25, 2018, 01:36:47 PM
Wait and see i think. If he's broken like some Everton fans are claiming then we'll see if he's not all pace. I don't think he is tbh and hopefully he'll still be able to use his undoubted ability to make a difference even if he's lost some of the speed.

To be honest many Villa fans thought Kodjia was broken before Wednesday. Players can come back.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: GarTomas on August 25, 2018, 01:38:40 PM
I didn't really want him but now he's here I hope he proves me wrong and provides goals and assists.

Why not ? Out of interesting any reasoning (I may have missed you saying sorry)

Is it his age ?
His injury record
Or his perhaps erratic style of play
How he will disrupt the squad  //team
balance ???

I do think he has ability and capable at championship level .

Are you of opinion ability wise he not a good fit or good enough ?

Yours curiously .
Footy

It's that far too often he'll beat his man and then fuck up the next bit. Pretty much the same thing we said about Traore and the same thing Adomah got criticised for a few days ago.  Bolasie has always struggled with his crossing and his shooting is worse which is why, despite looking good on highlights, his record in terms of goals and assists isn't very impressive.

A classic Steve Bruce signing. Able to conjure up a bit of quality on occasion but lacks the consistency to be a real top player.

Interesting to see how he does at a lower level though; the key this season is rotation of the squad that was non existent last year. Snodgrass for example tailed off badly as he  as was never rested.

The other drawback is when the players come in they know it doesn’t matter how they play they will be out again when the 1st choice are back.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: sickbeggar on August 25, 2018, 01:41:43 PM
Wait and see i think. If he's broken like some Everton fans are claiming then we'll see if he's not all pace. I don't think he is tbh and hopefully he'll still be able to use his undoubted ability to make a difference even if he's lost some of the speed.

To be honest many Villa fans thought Kodjia was broken before Wednesday. Players can come back.


yeah i nearly made that point myself. Its just that whatever way you look at it, a cruciate knee injury is very bad and lots of players don't come back the same as before
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 25, 2018, 01:42:37 PM
He's been in the Championship Team of the Year and he was good enough to inspire someone to pay £25 million. He might not live up to that price tag, but he should be more than good enough to be one of the most exciting players in the league.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: JUAN PABLO on August 25, 2018, 02:08:17 PM
I wonder how he knows Jack so well?
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Villa Lew on August 25, 2018, 02:40:20 PM
Reckon could turn out to be a superb signing, certainly his pace is something we badly need.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: footyskillz on August 25, 2018, 02:41:24 PM
it
I didn't really want him but now he's here I hope he proves me wrong and provides goals and assists.

Why not ? Out of interesting any reasoning (I may have missed you saying sorry)

Is it his age ?
His injury record
Or his perhaps erratic style of play
How he will disrupt the squad  //team
balance ???

I do think he has ability and capable at championship level .

Are you of opinion ability wise he not a good fit or good enough ?

Yours curiously .
Footy

It's that far too often he'll beat his man and then fuck up the next bit. Pretty much the same thing we said about Traore and the same thing Adomah got criticised for a few days ago.  Bolasie has always struggled with his crossing and his shooting is worse which is why, despite looking good on highlights, his record in terms of goals and assists isn't very impressive.

Yes he's wayward and sometimes very wild but like Traore he's exciting and fun to watch and will bring something different to team
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: maidstonevillain on August 25, 2018, 04:34:13 PM
"It's Premier League everywhere you look." That's a f*cking great line.

Must have missed the manager's office.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Axl Rose on August 25, 2018, 04:41:22 PM
That looked like an absolutely unbelievable save by Nyland.

It might have even gone in. And he then saved the follow up. Superb

AVTV hasn't evolved regarding replays, yet.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Axl Rose on August 25, 2018, 04:41:49 PM
Oops. Wrong thread. Too much excitement.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: gpbarr on August 25, 2018, 05:07:17 PM
"It's Premier League everywhere you look." That's a f*cking great line.

Must have missed the manager's office.

He'll soon realize his mistake when he finds himself looking back down the pitch and seeing the fucking comedy of errors called a football team behind him
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: jwarry on August 25, 2018, 05:29:25 PM
Maybe we will just win every game 4-3? Who wants one-nils anyway? 😊

Clearly not us!
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: wittonwarrior on August 25, 2018, 05:35:23 PM
Pointless signing unless we get a decent target man in
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: GarTomas on August 25, 2018, 05:37:20 PM
Pointless signing unless we get a decent target man in

He’ll make an adequate right back.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on August 25, 2018, 08:34:00 PM
Pointless signing unless we get a decent target man in
Totally agree there WW - plus a CB
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: mcgrath_85 on August 25, 2018, 08:37:25 PM
"It's Premier League everywhere you look." That's a f*cking great line.

Must have missed the manager's office.

He'll soon realize his mistake when he finds himself looking back down the pitch and seeing the fucking comedy of errors called a football team behind him

He’ll have a good laugh at Bodymoore Heath with the lads though, fucking around achieving very little.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on August 25, 2018, 08:57:42 PM
He'll soon realize his mistake when he finds himself looking back down the pitch and seeing the fucking comedy of errors called a football team behind him

Played for Everton and Palace, he should be used to it.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Smirker on August 26, 2018, 02:39:23 AM
Yanick on the streets of Aston,
Yanick on the streets of Birmingham, he's flying down the wing.

Oh Bolasie, oh Bolasie
Oh Bolasie, oh Bolasie,
Oh Bolasie, oh Bolasie, oh Bolasie,
etc,etc

Excellent.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: darren woolley on August 28, 2018, 09:07:23 AM
Welcome to Aston Villa Yannick.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Clark W Griswold on August 28, 2018, 01:20:35 PM
Is he ready to play or is he still recovering from injury? Thought I'd heard rumours of the latter.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: OCD on August 28, 2018, 01:50:45 PM
Expected to be ready after the international break.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: footyskillz on September 01, 2018, 09:35:12 AM
Y
Is he ready to play or is he still recovering from injury? Thought I'd heard rumours of the latter.

Yes Bruce said in press conference Blackburn (530pm 15 Sept) is the aim

Sky sports has Bolasie down for debut but I think this could be inaccurate hearing Bruce .

Maybe a cheeky bench apperance ? I don't think a full start



"Villa's latest signing Yannick Bolasie is expected to make his full debut after arriving on a season-long loan from Everton last weekend. But midfield pair Jack Grealish (thigh) and John McGinn (knee) are both doubtful after sustaining injuries in last week's home draw against Reading"
 

From sky sports

Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Drummond on September 01, 2018, 05:51:25 PM
He'd have only played at RB anyway.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: frank black on September 04, 2018, 02:53:54 PM
Bolasie ruled out of international due to injury. I know he has been deemed as a little behind fitness wise, but injured?

Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Newby on September 04, 2018, 06:47:02 PM
He'd have only played at RB anyway.

Or centre back.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: footyskillz on September 05, 2018, 08:04:20 PM
Bolasie ruled out of international due to injury. I know he has been deemed as a little behind fitness wise, but injured?

From what I read and heard today bruce will play him even if he's injured
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: TheMalandro on September 14, 2018, 02:41:57 PM
Easing him in Bruce-style, substitute the first game then regular from then on.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on September 14, 2018, 02:49:20 PM
Easing him in Bruce-style, substitute the first game then regular from then on.

Pretty much what Bruce said this morning
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: RussellC on September 14, 2018, 02:55:12 PM
Bolasie ruled out of international due to injury. I know he has been deemed as a little behind fitness wise, but injured?

From what I read and heard today bruce will play him even if he's injured

This is the worry about Bolasie. The Championship is a long, hard slog and durability is crucial. That's what made the decision to let Adomah go even crazier.

Bolasie has played 32 games over the last 2 season, combined and has signed for us whilst injured...
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: mr underhill on September 14, 2018, 04:38:36 PM
he won't play every game though - isn't that why we have a squad? Or it should be!
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: achilles on September 14, 2018, 07:05:31 PM
he won't play every game though - isn't that why we have a squad? Or it should be!

No, it is called a bunch of individuals!
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: footyskillz on September 18, 2018, 11:53:38 PM
Well played YB !

Diving header and determination to get it.
Skillz on show and I hope he builds up fitness.

It's so great we have him at the villa

Brilliant and only be unstoppable space craft  once he gets proper up to speed
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: PeterWithe on September 19, 2018, 12:14:28 AM
He did well. I’m not sure that ‘showboating’ when we are narrowly beating Rotherham is particularly appropriate but hey ho.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Matt Collins on September 19, 2018, 05:57:46 AM
We needed some excitement!
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: darren woolley on September 19, 2018, 09:55:34 AM
Good header from Yannick for his goal.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: West Derby Villan on September 19, 2018, 07:24:06 PM
Good header from Yannick for his goal.

Great desire to get his head on it, reminded me of Andy in the 70s
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Matt Collins on September 20, 2018, 06:50:48 AM
I assume he's still not fit to start for a few weeks

Shame as he did look a class above

Nightmare player to come on for the last 25 mins if you're tired
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Confusious says on September 21, 2018, 04:04:38 PM
Good performance & header, can't wait to see him match fit, looks strong too. On holiday so missed the game at V P but got it on sky.
Looking forward to seeing him in the flesh against Wednesday
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Holte132 on September 21, 2018, 04:34:39 PM
What was the song about him on Tuesday? Couldn't catch all the words!
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: villan from luton on September 21, 2018, 10:01:50 PM
Not sure if he is match fit enough to start tomorrow, hope he is tbh as will be a major asset, but agree re the showboating comment earlier
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Iamkmkm on September 22, 2018, 01:58:09 PM
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: wittonwarrior on September 22, 2018, 06:58:47 PM
Are you sure we haven’t signed George weah’s cousin
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: mr underhill on September 23, 2018, 07:36:44 AM
Only we could shell out 50k plus a week on someone who isn't match fit.  It's like Richards time repeating itself. We must have handed over 300k plus since he arrived for  20 odd minutes on the pitch. But he did score!
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Clampy on September 23, 2018, 07:58:16 AM
Only we could shell out 50k plus a week on someone who isn't match fit.  It's like Richards time repeating itself. We must have handed over 300k plus since he arrived for  20 odd minutes on the pitch. But he did score!

I think comparing Bolaise with Micah Richards is a bit silly personally. I don't think he has played a lot of football since his injury and maybe didnt have too much of a pre-season.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: mr underhill on September 23, 2018, 09:26:42 AM
again you have missed the point - he's just like Richards in so much as we signed a player who has a history of injury and was clearly not fit/isn't fit because of those injuries. So respectfully not silly at all.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Mister E on September 23, 2018, 09:29:06 AM
Only we could shell out 50k plus a week on someone who isn't match fit.  It's like Richards time repeating itself. We must have handed over 300k plus since he arrived for  20 odd minutes on the pitch. But he did score!
His cameo yesterday wasn't great.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Clampy on September 23, 2018, 09:35:18 AM
again you have missed the point - he's just like Richards in so much as we signed a player who has a history of injury and was clearly not fit/isn't fit because of those injuries. So respectfully not silly at all.

The difference is he's actually on the pitch unlike Richards and he's not our player so we won't be stuck with him for season's on end paying him for doing nothing unlike Richards.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: olaftab on September 23, 2018, 09:51:22 AM
Only we could shell out 50k plus a week on someone who isn't match fit.  It's like Richards time repeating itself. We must have handed over 300k plus since he arrived for  20 odd minutes on the pitch. But he did score!
His cameo yesterday wasn't great.
He was surprised that there were opposition players on the pitch and they will not stand around whilst he casually waits for the ball to arrive.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: TheTimVilla on September 23, 2018, 12:00:01 PM
What's this that we're paying all his 80k wages?!
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: SoccerHQ on September 23, 2018, 12:16:07 PM
Complete and utter madness if true given our FFP situation.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: wittonwarrior on September 23, 2018, 01:13:55 PM
2018/2019 version of Onomah - not up to it.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Matt Collins on September 23, 2018, 01:34:39 PM
2018/2019 version of Onomah - not up to it.

We're all pissed off but that statement is just kneejerk rubbish!
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Three Spires Villa on September 23, 2018, 01:51:50 PM
A bit harsh to write him off so early
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: mr underhill on September 23, 2018, 02:20:25 PM
I'm not writing him off - for that money I desperately want him to succeed. All I was saying is that yet again we have committed considerable resource on a player with as terrible recent history of injuries, much like we did with Richards. Given our FFP situation is is a big gamble.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: West Derby Villan on September 23, 2018, 03:33:43 PM
2018/2019 version of Onomah - not up to it.


Give him a chance he hasn't even played a full match yet.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Ads on September 23, 2018, 03:38:00 PM
Or even half a match.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Clampy on September 23, 2018, 07:09:45 PM
Or even half a match.

It's ridiculous isn't it?
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: cdbullyweefan on September 23, 2018, 07:10:50 PM
2018/2019 version of Onomah - not up to it.

Bloody Hell. He's come on as sub, what, three times? He's been quiet twice and excellent once. Maybe wait until he has played a whole game to give up on him.

Incidentally, I was surprised to see Onomah on the Wednesday bench. Had no idea he had gone there.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: villan from luton on September 23, 2018, 07:29:50 PM
He is not match fit, so give the bloke a chance. As for El Ghazi, he must be a but peed off Albert ahead of him
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: andyh on September 23, 2018, 07:36:31 PM
Bruce being backed to the hilt again, this time with Bolasie, with us paying all of his wages.

Our club must have money to burn, are naive beyond belief, or Bruce has the almighty gift of the gab with his new bosses.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: SoccerHQ on September 23, 2018, 07:54:14 PM
Bruce being backed to the hilt again, this time with Bolasie, with us paying all of his wages.

Our club must have money to burn, are naive beyond belief, or Bruce has the almighty gift of the gab with his new bosses.

All "waifs and strays" he has to go "begging for" which is his narrative!
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: eamonn on September 23, 2018, 09:05:08 PM
That can't be true that we're paying all his PL wages? Do we ever fucking learn?
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: CT on September 23, 2018, 09:26:43 PM
That can't be true that we're paying all his PL wages? Do we ever fucking learn?

It's staggering. If true, it's gross negligence.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: mr underhill on September 24, 2018, 07:37:57 AM
Simple question - Snoddy or Bolaise?
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: cdbullyweefan on September 24, 2018, 07:56:56 AM
It's too early to say.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Villafirst on September 24, 2018, 08:02:35 AM
I very much doubt we're paying all his wages. Where did that rumour come from in the first place?
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: cdbullyweefan on September 24, 2018, 08:05:03 AM
It wouldn't surprise me. He went for twenty odd million not long ago. If we weren't willing to pay it, someone else would.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 24, 2018, 11:27:06 PM
If we're paying Bolasie £70-80K a week then we really are a basket case. Also shits all over the "waifs and strays" nonsense.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Clampy on September 25, 2018, 06:51:26 AM
It's too early to say.

Yep, way way too early to say. If memory serves me correct, didn't it take Snoddgrass a while to get match fit for us because he'd hardy played any football for West Ham?
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: mr underhill on September 25, 2018, 07:18:16 AM
you might well be right - but I'm going to wager that Bolaise doesn't get close to Snoddy's goals and assists
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: chrisw1 on September 25, 2018, 08:37:45 AM
That can't be true that we're paying all his PL wages? Do we ever fucking learn?

It's staggering. If true, it's gross negligence.
Why do people think we're paying all his wages, has this been stated anywhere?  I'd be very surprised if we are.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Clampy on September 25, 2018, 09:40:27 AM
you might well be right - but I'm going to wager that Bolaise doesn't get close to Snoddy's goals and assists

Maybe he won't but that's a bit of a different argument to saying we've brought in another Micah Richards.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: mr underhill on September 25, 2018, 11:20:52 AM
it's not but if you can't see that then fine. In my opinion both haven indisputable records of  serious injury - one doesn't play but probably can, the other is chipping in with cameos and it remains to be seen if he will be able to play 90 minutes.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: cdbullyweefan on September 25, 2018, 07:53:55 PM
Bolasie has had two injuries in his career, Richards has had thirteen. The comparison is ludicrous.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: CT on September 25, 2018, 09:41:26 PM
Bolasie has had two injuries in his career, Richards has had thirteen. The comparison is ludicrous.

Yeah, but Micah's great to have around the place.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: TheTimVilla on September 25, 2018, 10:35:10 PM
That can't be true that we're paying all his PL wages? Do we ever fucking learn?

It's staggering. If true, it's gross negligence.
Why do people think we're paying all his wages, has this been stated anywhere?  I'd be very surprised if we are.

It was in the Birmingham Mail and, I think, E&S
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: cdbullyweefan on September 25, 2018, 10:42:25 PM
Bolasie has had two injuries in his career, Richards has had thirteen. The comparison is ludicrous.

Yeah, but Micah's great to have around the place.

A good point. He is Bantmaster General.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: footyskillz on October 03, 2018, 12:38:00 PM
Another goal by Yannick and he seemed to want to take the pen however if you look at highlights the ball dropped to Whelan and he caught it and headed to the spot . It was like it's my ball I'm taking it .

There was a debate with captain Hutton. And. Axel Tuanzebe was in the picture too .
Bolaise would have been my preferred choice I feel Bruce from touchline should be screaming let him take it.

As much as Glenn Whelan is good at what he does the penalty taking isn't his forte.
He's like one of those pros who will have the balls but not the talent to deliver .
We seen that countless times in penalty shoot outs at business end
Those who like to get stuck in and give it a go fancy themselves for a penalty.

Also noted from footage around Grealish was on halfway line and Bruce had his back to goal . Though I think bruce done that before with pens.
Again Bruce abd coaching team need to be aware and make sure all players are around the box forcing home the penalty .

I mean it was the last kick and Whelan followed up the rebound but was too slow . A quicker player or more around the box still maybe give us chance.

I really feel that more of players needed to step up around the area .
Bolaise seems pleased to be playing football again and him and Tuanzabe we're stand outs.
Sometimes it the loan players who are most grateful to be playing .
We saw that with Snodgrass last season and Bolasie should be another.

One minor but irrelevant grip after his eqailiser he needed to get back to the half and go again for the winner . There was too much celebration by him rather than determination to get a late winner.

Though we still had that penalty chance .and I really feel more should have been made by all villa players around the box as I say last kick they could have all piled in.

Was all left to Whelan and think even though he was responsible i for one wanted Bolasie , Grealish, mcginn to take it .

We had Albert adomag miss late on against Burton now this . It's all very annoying

Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: VillaLoyal on October 10, 2018, 07:23:18 PM
Hopefully he starts against Swansea. He has looked good coming off the bench.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: footyskillz on October 14, 2018, 09:29:24 AM
Yannick scores again ! And as a sub! In the 90th minute . This time on international break Democratic Republic  of Congo. They lost , somewhat surprisingly at home, to Zimbabwe in Africa Cup of Nations qualifying match. Bolasie played 37 minutes.

And have to say well played though ! He seems to be enjoying back playing and making most with his football again and is getting goals and being a threat .

I think he'll only get stronger and become vibrant .
Smithy has a ready made top quality player to use in his front positions .
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Newby on October 14, 2018, 11:23:47 AM
African Cup of Nations.  Does this mean we lose players in January?
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: footyskillz on October 14, 2018, 11:44:35 AM
African Cup of Nations.  Does this mean we lose players in January?

No Africa Cup of Nations in Cameroon has been moved to June and July from the usual January and February . First time ever! And it's an expanded tournament!

March international break is only time the African representatives will be away in 2019 of this season for African nation's qualifying . Last round of matches.

So that's in between march home matches scheduled  boro 16th and  Blackburn 30th.

Bolasie will be at fixture playing Liberia home on 22nd march.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Newby on October 14, 2018, 11:50:42 AM
Cheers footy.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: footyskillz on October 14, 2018, 11:52:08 AM
Cheers footy.

I had to look to confirm and get some extra details but I heard there were plans to move the tournament to major European close season months .
Cheers . Newby
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: cheltenhamlion on October 19, 2018, 06:20:22 PM
That can't be true that we're paying all his PL wages? Do we ever fucking learn?

It's staggering. If true, it's gross negligence.
Why do people think we're paying all his wages, has this been stated anywhere?  I'd be very surprised if we are.

It was in the Birmingham Mail and, I think, E&S

We are Tim. That I know for definite. Messenger or some such bollocks for details!
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Diablo on October 19, 2018, 07:14:32 PM
I wonder how long it will take him to be fully match fit? Would suggest he's still some way off if he only played 37 mins last match?
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Matt Collins on October 20, 2018, 07:03:45 AM
I didn't realise he was away this break given he's hardly played

Might not be the freshest for today then
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Ad@m on October 20, 2018, 10:33:18 PM
I'm not sure about fresh - he looked pissed today!
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: London Villan on October 20, 2018, 10:34:45 PM
Abraham was giving him grief for not tracking back.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Ad@m on October 20, 2018, 10:47:23 PM
Abraham was giving him grief for not tracking back.

He barely tracked forward either.  You'd think he'd want to impress the new boss but that wasn't going to.

I've seen absolutely nothing in him since he signed to suggest he's worth a quarter of what we're allegedly paying him.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: villan from luton on October 20, 2018, 10:49:19 PM
I'm not sure about fresh - he looked pissed today!

I got to say I said the same thing to my lad, he was awful
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: West Derby Villan on October 20, 2018, 10:54:31 PM
Certainly didn't seem to have the same enthusiasm as he had in his previous appearances
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: VILLA MOLE on October 20, 2018, 11:02:17 PM
Abraham was giving him grief for not tracking back.

He barely tracked forward either.  You'd think he'd want to impress the new boss but that wasn't going to.

I've seen absolutely nothing in him since he signed to suggest he's worth a quarter of what we're allegedly paying him.


well I imagine under Smith he wont stay long if he does that
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: andyh on October 21, 2018, 12:04:26 AM
I have had a little drink tonight, but even so my summary would be the same if I hadn’t.


Bolasie? Waste of fuck8ng time and money.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Des Little on October 21, 2018, 12:09:59 AM
Return to sender
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: olaftab on October 21, 2018, 12:19:03 AM
I must say he was very disappointing today when he came on but I think he needs a run of games. Let's see how he is by Xmas.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: villan from luton on October 21, 2018, 12:21:33 AM
Olaftab, his attitude needs to improve so much if he is going to be a part of this group. I really hope it does as he is a talent, but the money he is on he needs to perform very soon
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Newby on October 21, 2018, 12:24:02 AM
Yeah Christmas, then we can wrap him up and send him back if it's not working out. Hopefully, Smudge will have worked his magic by then, on Bolasie.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: black pearl of inchicore on October 21, 2018, 02:16:18 AM
Waste Of Space....does nothing, adds nothing......the complete Poser
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 21, 2018, 04:44:45 AM
Waste Of Space....does nothing, adds nothing......the complete Poser

you mean other than the goals he's scored and set up this season in very limited appearances since he arrived?
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: ROBBO on October 21, 2018, 05:31:48 AM
He's had cameo performances at best after being out with a serious injury, I remember how good he was, if Smith can get him back to eighty percent of that he will make his mark in this division. Give him time.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: wittonwarrior on October 21, 2018, 06:49:19 AM
He’s a different kind of player. Has a magic moment then will hide or do something daft. It’s whether we can hold a plaolikechom in the squad and the answer has to be yes - coming off the bench could turn a difficult match
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Three Spires Villa on October 21, 2018, 07:09:48 AM
He’s had one very poor game after coming on as a sub, after some good performances, coming on as a sub, think he needs a bit more time
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: mr underhill on October 21, 2018, 07:12:15 AM
I can't ever see him being fit enough to do  anything more than cameos. Yesterday he was awful.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Matt Collins on October 21, 2018, 07:35:45 AM
I can tolerate a poor game and things not coming off

But the attitude was awful. At lease make a fucking effort mate
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Villafirst on October 21, 2018, 09:09:18 AM
Dean needs to kick him up the arse. I hope it's not another lazy player on big wages who can't be bothered. Too many like this in the past on easy street.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: dorsetvillian on October 21, 2018, 09:10:28 AM
A truly shocking sub appearance.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Ads on October 21, 2018, 09:23:32 AM
Yet he whipped in an excellent cross that ought to have been pit away.

He creates chances and scores goals.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: mcgrath_85 on October 21, 2018, 09:27:41 AM
Let’s wait till he starts a few consecutive  games before writing him off as a waste of space, particularly after one shite substitute appearance.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: mr underhill on October 21, 2018, 09:50:42 AM
ow much longer do we have to wait though? We're a quarter in and it's obvious he's still not fit enough to start. And where's the other winger wee brought in? He's so off the radar I can't even remember his name.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Ads on October 21, 2018, 09:52:32 AM
I expect he didn't start as he was in the Congo on Thursday.

Old Nuno paid for this yesterday with the Dingles having playing their 7 who were on international duty.

Expect he will start Tuesday to aid the counter attack.

Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: waynejames on October 21, 2018, 10:32:37 AM
I expect he didn't start as he was in the Congo on Thursday.

Old Nuno paid for this yesterday with the Dingles having playing their 7 who were on international duty.

Expect he will start Tuesday to aid the counter attack.


The Democratic Republic of the Congo has now become so unstable that it is no longer possible to obtain Um Bongo, no matter how far way down the middle you actually go.
Perhaps this affected his limp contribution to proceedings yesterday.......
I've seen it in Tescos at Witton island i'll pass it on
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Clampy on October 21, 2018, 10:44:09 AM
He wasn't as effective yesterday has he has been so far. He seemed to be playing too far out wide and didn't get into the box as much as he has been doing. I think he'll be fine though once he settles in and gets match fit.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Clampy on October 21, 2018, 10:51:53 AM
Let’s wait till he starts a few consecutive  games before writing him off as a waste of space, particularly after one shite substitute appearance.

Yep, agree with this. We're too quick to write off new signing nowadays.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: andyh on October 21, 2018, 10:59:42 AM
The ‘give them time’ argument stacks up with players who are stepping up in standard and quality.
A player valued at tens of millions of pounds and on a multi million pound contract, and stepping down a division should at least be seen to put the effort in.

A certain Mr. McGinn seems to have acclimatised to this division without needing too much time.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Clampy on October 21, 2018, 11:04:48 AM
The ‘give them time’ argument stacks up with players who are stepping up in standard and quality.
A player valued at tens of millions of pounds and on a multi million pound contract, and stepping down a division should at least be seen to put the effort in.

A certain Mr. McGinn seems to have acclimatised to this division without needing too much time.

I'd agree if he'd hadn't done anything of note since he's been here, but he has.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: olaftab on October 21, 2018, 11:09:24 AM
Did he play for Congo during the week? Surely if he is still not fully recovered from his injury why was he allowed to travel?
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Clampy on October 21, 2018, 11:20:12 AM
Did he play for Congo during the week? Surely if he is still not fully recovered from his injury why was he allowed to travel?

I stand correct but I think we can only pull players out if they're injured.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: The Edge on October 21, 2018, 11:34:12 AM
A truly shocking sub appearance.
I do think you can critisise him for not working hard enough when they were in possession but I think "shocking" is a bit harsh. He put in some good runs and some good crosses. Wasn't it him who put one the ball in for Tammy when he should have scored?
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 21, 2018, 01:48:01 PM
He's played 131 minutes for us and scored twice. For a comparison Jack has played 1112 and scored 0 and got 1 assist. Albert 487 mins and 0 goals and 1 assist.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: myf on October 21, 2018, 02:56:44 PM
looked disinterested yesterday which was surprising when there's a new gaffer to impress. perhaps he was still recovering from international duty?
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: aj2k77 on October 21, 2018, 03:45:52 PM
Everyone said that his cameo's have been good and he should be in the starting 11. A poor half hour and suddenly he's out of order and disinterested? Come on now, let's not flip flop from one to another. He's a good player who will have a huge part to play this season, let's not make a drama out of a poor subs appearance.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Damo70 on October 21, 2018, 03:51:01 PM
If we can get him fit, motivated and on form (which should be achievable under Smith, O'Kelly and Terry) he could be outstanding at Championship level.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: KRS on October 21, 2018, 06:03:00 PM
I was disgusted by his performance and attitude yesterday. Pointing fingers, walking around, not chasing down and poor ball control. That's the first time I've seen him "play" for us, but if he doesn't improve significantly then his loan short be cut short.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 21, 2018, 06:10:57 PM
Fucking Hell, talk about an overreaction. He wasn't at his best yesterday, but still set up a clear goalscoring chance. And he was only on for twenty minutes. Quite possibly log fully fit and had just flown back from a couple of games in Africa. He's already contributed plenty in his short spell at the club. I won't be joining this lynch mob.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: LeeB on October 21, 2018, 06:34:06 PM
Fucking Hell, talk about an overreaction. He wasn't at his best yesterday, but still set up a clear goalscoring chance. And he was only on for twenty minutes. Quite possibly log fully fit and had just flown back from a couple of games in Africa. He's already contributed plenty in his short spell at the club. I won't be joining this lynch mob.

Yeah, but he didn't do a 40 yard scorpion volley whilst resurrecting Doug and punching Paul Tait simultaneously, so he can fuck off back to Everton as far as I'm concerned.

END OF.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 21, 2018, 06:54:21 PM
Fucking Hell, talk about an overreaction. He wasn't at his best yesterday, but still set up a clear goalscoring chance. And he was only on for twenty minutes. Quite possibly log fully fit and had just flown back from a couple of games in Africa. He's already contributed plenty in his short spell at the club. I won't be joining this lynch mob.

Agree entirely. I just don’t see what he did so badly to merit such vitriol.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Ads on October 21, 2018, 07:07:22 PM
I was disgusted by his performance and attitude yesterday. Pointing fingers, walking around, not chasing down and poor ball control. That's the first time I've seen him "play" for us, but if he doesn't improve significantly then his loan short be cut short.

Bit Daily Express.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on October 21, 2018, 07:34:18 PM
I was disgusted by his performance and attitude yesterday. Pointing fingers, walking around, not chasing down and poor ball control. That's the first time I've seen him "play" for us, but if he doesn't improve significantly then his loan short be cut short.

Bizarre
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: olaftab on October 21, 2018, 07:45:53 PM
I was disgusted by his performance and attitude yesterday. Pointing fingers, walking around, not chasing down and poor ball control. That's the first time I've seen him "play" for us, but if he doesn't improve significantly then his loan short be cut short.
If he plays like he did when he came on at all previous games than I hope we will change  his stay to permanent.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 21, 2018, 07:51:29 PM
Me too.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: KRS on October 21, 2018, 08:06:36 PM
Not bizarre or Daily Express at all...I'm clearly not the only one that thought his cameo yesterday was shite. If he has more to offer and can be of benefit to the team then you wont hear me or anyone else complaining.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: KRS on October 21, 2018, 08:22:02 PM
Smith said both Bolasie and Kodjia didn't train on Friday so may be its just a simple case that he's not up to speed or adjusting. When you have players like Tammy and McGinn busting a gut all game, it just doesn't sit right with me when players like Bolasie come on and look like they can't be arsed.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: PeterWithe on October 21, 2018, 08:34:28 PM
His work rate was poor, if Smith can get all the players playing to their maximum capacity we’ll piss this

Of the four wingers who played, by far the most impressive was Elmo. We’ve probably all ready got the players to do this
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: brentastonb6 on October 21, 2018, 08:38:48 PM
Smith said both Bolasie and Kodjia didn't train on Friday so may be its just a simple case that he's not up to speed or adjusting. When you have players like Tammy and McGinn busting a gut all game, it just doesn't sit right with me when players like Bolasie come on and look like they can't be arsed.
I’ve just bumped into Bolassie ‘ Training ‘ at the Belfry , the first thing I said to him was “ you could have put more effort in yesterday “ , his response?  “I was jet lagged” So I asked him why he didn’t tell the manager that to which he had no reply. So he knows he was useless yesterday ( and sitting in Trinity Lower I heard Tammy, Hutton, Terry and Smith all have a go at him at different times ) so we’ll see won’t we. I think he’s a big time Charlie of the Charles N’Zogbia order
Have a look  at his career stats and they don’t make spectacular reading. But the icing on the cake for me tonight was he was wearing a black T shirt  with his name on the back . Not a club one, not his national team one  just a Bolassie billy big bollocks one. I hope his next game he puts a shift in.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Ads on October 21, 2018, 08:51:43 PM
I hope next game he puts a sitter on the plate for Tammy again.

Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: brentastonb6 on October 21, 2018, 09:12:34 PM
I hope next game he puts a sitter on the plate for Tammy again.


Yeh, me too but you can’t stand around doing sweet FA for the rest of your time on the pitch can you ? Apparently it’s a team game and when your team mates are putting a shift in the minimum requirement is that you do the same . Unless you think differently ?
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Richard on October 21, 2018, 09:17:04 PM
Smith said both Bolasie and Kodjia didn't train on Friday so may be its just a simple case that he's not up to speed or adjusting. When you have players like Tammy and McGinn busting a gut all game, it just doesn't sit right with me when players like Bolasie come on and look like they can't be arsed.
I’ve just bumped into Bolassie ‘ Training ‘ at the Belfry , the first thing I said to him was “ you could have put more effort in yesterday “ , his response?  “I was jet lagged” So I asked him why he didn’t tell the manager that to which he had no reply. So he knows he was useless yesterday ( and sitting in Trinity Lower I heard Tammy, Hutton, Terry and Smith all have a go at him at different times ) so we’ll see won’t we. I think he’s a big time Charlie of the Charles N’Zogbia order
Have a look  at his career stats and they don’t make spectacular reading. But the icing on the cake for me tonight was he was wearing a black T shirt  with his name on the back . Not a club one, not his national team one  just a Bolassie billy big bollocks one. I hope his next game he puts a shift in.

So it's Sunday evening and you think he should be training ? I think the first thing I would have said is "good win yesterday" but each to their own.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Richard E on October 21, 2018, 09:17:54 PM
I'm not sure bollocking the poor guy when he's minding his own business on his day off will help anyone.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 21, 2018, 09:27:25 PM
It must be lovely for our players when they are being slagged off in person by fans after we've won.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 21, 2018, 09:41:16 PM
I'm absolutely disgusted our players are out relaxing instead of training on a Sunday afternoon/evening. Good on you for having a go at a player who has played 131 minutes first team football for us and only manage to score twice and create a number of chances for other players.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 21, 2018, 09:46:13 PM
Smith said both Bolasie and Kodjia didn't train on Friday so may be its just a simple case that he's not up to speed or adjusting. When you have players like Tammy and McGinn busting a gut all game, it just doesn't sit right with me when players like Bolasie come on and look like they can't be arsed.
I’ve just bumped into Bolassie ‘ Training ‘ at the Belfry , the first thing I said to him was “ you could have put more effort in yesterday “ , his response?  “I was jet lagged” So I asked him why he didn’t tell the manager that to which he had no reply. So he knows he was useless yesterday ( and sitting in Trinity Lower I heard Tammy, Hutton, Terry and Smith all have a go at him at different times ) so we’ll see won’t we. I think he’s a big time Charlie of the Charles N’Zogbia order
Have a look  at his career stats and they don’t make spectacular reading. But the icing on the cake for me tonight was he was wearing a black T shirt  with his name on the back . Not a club one, not his national team one  just a Bolassie billy big bollocks one. I hope his next game he puts a shift in.

Very big of you. You have to be so proud of yourself.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Ian J on October 21, 2018, 10:11:16 PM
Smith said both Bolasie and Kodjia didn't train on Friday so may be its just a simple case that he's not up to speed or adjusting. When you have players like Tammy and McGinn busting a gut all game, it just doesn't sit right with me when players like Bolasie come on and look like they can't be arsed.
I’ve just bumped into Bolassie ‘ Training ‘ at the Belfry , the first thing I said to him was “ you could have put more effort in yesterday “ , his response?  “I was jet lagged” So I asked him why he didn’t tell the manager that to which he had no reply. So he knows he was useless yesterday ( and sitting in Trinity Lower I heard Tammy, Hutton, Terry and Smith all have a go at him at different times ) so we’ll see won’t we. I think he’s a big time Charlie of the Charles N’Zogbia order
Have a look  at his career stats and they don’t make spectacular reading. But the icing on the cake for me tonight was he was wearing a black T shirt  with his name on the back . Not a club one, not his national team one  just a Bolassie billy big bollocks one. I hope his next game he puts a shift in.

Very big of you. You have to be so proud of yourself.
I was just about to type that exact same thing TV.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Nunkin1965 on October 21, 2018, 10:24:33 PM
Smith said both Bolasie and Kodjia didn't train on Friday so may be its just a simple case that he's not up to speed or adjusting. When you have players like Tammy and McGinn busting a gut all game, it just doesn't sit right with me when players like Bolasie come on and look like they can't be arsed.
I’ve just bumped into Bolassie ‘ Training ‘ at the Belfry , the first thing I said to him was “ you could have put more effort in yesterday “ , his response?  “I was jet lagged” So I asked him why he didn’t tell the manager that to which he had no reply. So he knows he was useless yesterday ( and sitting in Trinity Lower I heard Tammy, Hutton, Terry and Smith all have a go at him at different times ) so we’ll see won’t we. I think he’s a big time Charlie of the Charles N’Zogbia order
Have a look  at his career stats and they don’t make spectacular reading. But the icing on the cake for me tonight was he was wearing a black T shirt  with his name on the back . Not a club one, not his national team one  just a Bolassie billy big bollocks one. I hope his next game he puts a shift in.

Very big of you. You have to be so proud of yourself.
I was just about to type that exact same thing TV.
I too found this post bloody pointless.
Bolasie has already contributed more than N'Zogbia ever did.
I agree that his contribution wasn't as good as his other cameos so far but I wouldn't go so far as to call the guy out but that's human beings for you I suppose.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: brentastonb6 on October 21, 2018, 11:33:29 PM
Smith said both Bolasie and Kodjia didn't train on Friday so may be its just a simple case that he's not up to speed or adjusting. When you have players like Tammy and McGinn busting a gut all game, it just doesn't sit right with me when players like Bolasie come on and look like they can't be arsed.
I’ve just bumped into Bolassie ‘ Training ‘ at the Belfry , the first thing I said to him was “ you could have put more effort in yesterday “ , his response?  “I was jet lagged” So I asked him why he didn’t tell the manager that to which he had no reply. So he knows he was useless yesterday ( and sitting in Trinity Lower I heard Tammy, Hutton, Terry and Smith all have a go at him at different times ) so we’ll see won’t we. I think he’s a big time Charlie of the Charles N’Zogbia order
Have a look  at his career stats and they don’t make spectacular reading. But the icing on the cake for me tonight was he was wearing a black T shirt  with his name on the back . Not a club one, not his national team one  just a Bolassie billy big bollocks one. I hope his next game he puts a shift in.

So it's Sunday evening and you think he should be training ? I think the first thing I would have said is "good win yesterday" but each to their own.
Yeh you’re  right each his own,If he needs  to train seven days a week if it makes him half as fit as John McGinn then yeh I’m all for it, how about you ? Give him a day off for hard work put in yesterday?  I’m hoping he realised his performance was piss poor and is trying to make amends , we shall she ?
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 22, 2018, 12:07:56 AM
Everyone is entitled to a day off. Stop talking shite.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: olaftab on October 22, 2018, 12:24:10 AM
FFS ::). I like John McGinn but I don't want a team full of 10 John McGinns chasing around like a Parson Terrier. Bolasie is a player full of guile and skill that we need to open up defences and  given time I am sure he will do that regularly.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Ads on October 22, 2018, 01:03:51 AM
Smith said both Bolasie and Kodjia didn't train on Friday so may be its just a simple case that he's not up to speed or adjusting. When you have players like Tammy and McGinn busting a gut all game, it just doesn't sit right with me when players like Bolasie come on and look like they can't be arsed.
I’ve just bumped into Bolassie ‘ Training ‘ at the Belfry , the first thing I said to him was “ you could have put more effort in yesterday “ , his response?  “I was jet lagged” So I asked him why he didn’t tell the manager that to which he had no reply. So he knows he was useless yesterday ( and sitting in Trinity Lower I heard Tammy, Hutton, Terry and Smith all have a go at him at different times ) so we’ll see won’t we. I think he’s a big time Charlie of the Charles N’Zogbia order
Have a look  at his career stats and they don’t make spectacular reading. But the icing on the cake for me tonight was he was wearing a black T shirt  with his name on the back . Not a club one, not his national team one  just a Bolassie billy big bollocks one. I hope his next game he puts a shift in.

So it's Sunday evening and you think he should be training ? I think the first thing I would have said is "good win yesterday" but each to their own.
Yeh you’re  right each his own,If he needs  to train seven days a week if it makes him half as fit as John McGinn then yeh I’m all for it, how about you ? Give him a day off for hard work put in yesterday?  I’m hoping he realised his performance was piss poor and is trying to make amends , we shall she ?

What were you doing swanning around the Belfry? Why weren't you working, you work shy waster?
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: TheMalandro on October 22, 2018, 04:01:30 AM
FFS ::). I like John McGinn but I don't want a team full of 10 John McGinns chasing around like a Parson Terrier. Bolasie is a player full of guile and skill that we need to open up defences and  given time I am sure he will do that regularly.

Oh, have a go at Parson Terriers now!

My boy, Ellis will bite you in the arse.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Diablo on October 22, 2018, 07:55:27 AM
Well you live and learn! I had to look up a Parson Terrier - I've only known them as Jack Russels.

Regarding Bolasie he's just come back from injury, getting up to match fitness and he's had the total of one day with the new management team, jet lag may well be an issue, give the guy a break. Surely we've had enough negativity recently with Bruce and our recent history. This is our honeymoon period. Get sexy! Make love not war! UTV! 
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: TheMalandro on October 22, 2018, 08:32:58 AM
I'm not a Jack Russell.



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Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Ian J on October 22, 2018, 08:55:15 AM
I'm not a Jack Russell.



(https://thumb.ibb.co/cjGoRL/FB-IMG-1540193468498.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cjGoRL)

So the only difference between a Parson Terrier and a Jack Russell is the Villa scarf? 😉
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: TheMalandro on October 22, 2018, 09:21:07 AM
Probably 😂
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: darren woolley on October 22, 2018, 09:37:00 AM
Maybe he is jet lagged but at least he made him self available to play give him a break.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on October 22, 2018, 11:00:02 AM


Am I the only one calling bullshit ?
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: olaftab on October 22, 2018, 11:16:12 AM
FFS ::). I like John McGinn but I don't want a team full of 10 John McGinns chasing around like a Parson Terrier. Bolasie is a player full of guile and skill that we need to open up defences and  given time I am sure he will do that regularly.

Oh, have a go at Parson Terriers now!

My boy, Ellis will bite you in the arse.
No surprise there most things bite me in the arse. Is Ellis any good to replace McGinn tomorrow night?
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: TheMalandro on October 22, 2018, 12:48:14 PM
FFS ::). I like John McGinn but I don't want a team full of 10 John McGinns chasing around like a Parson Terrier. Bolasie is a player full of guile and skill that we need to open up defences and  given time I am sure he will do that regularly.

Oh, have a go at Parson Terriers now!

My boy, Ellis will bite you in the arse.
No surprise there most things bite me in the arse. Is Ellis any good to replace McGinn tomorrow night?

He's thirteen, deaf, arthritis in his back legs and sleeps twenty-three and a half hours a day. Maybe ahead of Whelan.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Drummond on October 22, 2018, 03:00:33 PM
Smith said both Bolasie and Kodjia didn't train on Friday so may be its just a simple case that he's not up to speed or adjusting. When you have players like Tammy and McGinn busting a gut all game, it just doesn't sit right with me when players like Bolasie come on and look like they can't be arsed.
I’ve just bumped into Bolassie ‘ Training ‘ at the Belfry , the first thing I said to him was “ you could have put more effort in yesterday “ , his response?  “I was jet lagged” So I asked him why he didn’t tell the manager that to which he had no reply. So he knows he was useless yesterday ( and sitting in Trinity Lower I heard Tammy, Hutton, Terry and Smith all have a go at him at different times ) so we’ll see won’t we. I think he’s a big time Charlie of the Charles N’Zogbia order
Have a look  at his career stats and they don’t make spectacular reading. But the icing on the cake for me tonight was he was wearing a black T shirt  with his name on the back . Not a club one, not his national team one  just a Bolassie billy big bollocks one. I hope his next game he puts a shift in.

Bullshit.

8.38 on a Sunday night and you claim to have bumped into one of our players, intimating you're concerned he's not training and the first thing you claim to have said was to slag him off?

Yeah, of course you did. How about telling him his t-shirt was shit too?

If it's not bullshit, then I'm not quite sure what it says about you.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: paul_e on October 22, 2018, 03:58:56 PM
I never wanted Bolasie because he was just the wrong signing (a left back and/or centre back was much more important) and he was signed entirely because Bruce could just say 'make something happen' to him with no plan for how it would happen and let his unpredictability do all the work.

That said I don't think you can fault him so far, he's generally done the job he's been asked to.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: footyskillz on October 22, 2018, 06:32:37 PM
Bolasie is prolly the best player in the league .
His footy skillz are high end.
And attacking wise he's too good for most championship defenders.
I'm pleased Villa have him and he's enjoying playing football again after a harsh time without kicking a ball.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on October 22, 2018, 08:35:46 PM
Bolasie is a game changer. He will be exactly what Dean Smith will like flair, passion and can beat a man …...
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 22, 2018, 08:39:49 PM
Bolasie is prolly the best player in the league .
His footy skillz are high end.
And attacking wise he's too good for most championship defenders.
I'm pleased Villa have him and he's enjoying playing football again after a harsh time without kicking a ball.

Agreed, FS. 👍🏿
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: eamonn on October 22, 2018, 08:57:52 PM
If half his team-mates and management were having a go at him for his performance on Saturday, why are you all having a go at supporter for doing the same when he possibly paid to watch him?

And no, he hasn't quite done as much as N'Zogbia yet.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Nunkin1965 on October 22, 2018, 09:46:05 PM
If half his team-mates and management were having a go at him for his performance on Saturday, why are you all having a go at supporter for doing the same when he possibly paid to watch him?

And no, he hasn't quite done as much as N'Zogbia yet.


I just thought that it was a shite comment to make. as others have stated probably bullshit. And there's no problem giving him a bollocking in the heat of battle, not on a Sunday night at the Belfry especially when we've won and he's enjoying a bit of a chill out no doubt.

His contribution will surpass N'Zogbia's achievements. I'm pretty confident of that. Mind you it's pretty close as it stands already.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 22, 2018, 09:51:55 PM
Players are expected to encourage, cajole and occasionally criticise each other during games.

Slagging someone off when they're on their day off is wank behaviour. Especially seeing as he seems to have ignored his previous good performances and written him off based on twenty minutes when he was knackered after just getting back from two games in Africa, and was still unlucky not to set up a goal after a superb bit of skill.

He's scored half as many goals as N'Zogbia in about a twentieth as many appearances. He's one of the best players in the league and for one of our own fans to be going out of their way to make his stay more unpleasant is revolting behaviour.

Hopefully he made it up.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: SO Villa on October 22, 2018, 11:25:48 PM
Not sure how he could be jet lagged. He was playing in Africa wasn't he?
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: brentastonb6 on October 22, 2018, 11:30:28 PM
Smith said both Bolasie and Kodjia didn't train on Friday so may be its just a simple case that he's not up to speed or adjusting. When you have players like Tammy and McGinn busting a gut all game, it just doesn't sit right with me when players like Bolasie come on and look like they can't be arsed.
I’ve just bumped into Bolassie ‘ Training ‘ at the Belfry , the first thing I said to him was “ you could have put more effort in yesterday “ , his response?  “I was jet lagged” So I asked him why he didn’t tell the manager that to which he had no reply. So he knows he was useless yesterday ( and sitting in Trinity Lower I heard Tammy, Hutton, Terry and Smith all have a go at him at different times ) so we’ll see won’t we. I think he’s a big time Charlie of the Charles N’Zogbia order
Have a look  at his career stats and they don’t make spectacular reading. But the icing on the cake for me tonight was he was wearing a black T shirt  with his name on the back . Not a club one, not his national team one  just a Bolassie billy big bollocks one. I hope his next game he puts a shift in.

Bullshit.

8.38 on a Sunday night and you claim to have bumped into one of our players, intimating you're concerned he's not training and the first thing you claim to have said was to slag him off?

Yeah, of course you did. How about telling him his t-shirt was shit too?

If it's not bullshit, then I'm not quite sure what it says about you.
Bullshit ? If I said I bumped into him training at the Belfry that’s where I bumped into him .. I train there every Sunday evening after getting my youngest children ready for bed.I regularly bump into our players as that’s where most of them stay .Pitarch was also in Sunday running on the treadmill.  The gym closed at 20.30 and that’s when he finished his light workout. Please feel free to say what you have just put in print to my face you wanker .I’d like to see you call me a liar .   
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Drummond on October 22, 2018, 11:49:58 PM
Smith said both Bolasie and Kodjia didn't train on Friday so may be its just a simple case that he's not up to speed or adjusting. When you have players like Tammy and McGinn busting a gut all game, it just doesn't sit right with me when players like Bolasie come on and look like they can't be arsed.
I’ve just bumped into Bolassie ‘ Training ‘ at the Belfry , the first thing I said to him was “ you could have put more effort in yesterday “ , his response?  “I was jet lagged” So I asked him why he didn’t tell the manager that to which he had no reply. So he knows he was useless yesterday ( and sitting in Trinity Lower I heard Tammy, Hutton, Terry and Smith all have a go at him at different times ) so we’ll see won’t we. I think he’s a big time Charlie of the Charles N’Zogbia order
Have a look  at his career stats and they don’t make spectacular reading. But the icing on the cake for me tonight was he was wearing a black T shirt  with his name on the back . Not a club one, not his national team one  just a Bolassie billy big bollocks one. I hope his next game he puts a shift in.

Bullshit.

8.38 on a Sunday night and you claim to have bumped into one of our players, intimating you're concerned he's not training and the first thing you claim to have said was to slag him off?

Yeah, of course you did. How about telling him his t-shirt was shit too?

If it's not bullshit, then I'm not quite sure what it says about you.
Bullshit ? If I said I bumped into him training at the Belfry that’s where I bumped into him .. I train there every Sunday evening after getting my youngest children ready for bed.I regularly bump into our players as that’s where most of them stay .Pitarch was also in Sunday running on the treadmill.  The gym closed at 20.30 and that’s when he finished his light workout. Please feel free to say what you have just put in print to my face you wanker .I’d like to see you call me a liar .

No comment. I reckon your fingers obviously work better when they're in fist shape.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Ad@m on October 22, 2018, 11:52:27 PM
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Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Ads on October 22, 2018, 11:54:05 PM
Like a violent Eastie.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: brentastonb6 on October 23, 2018, 12:02:36 AM
Smith said both Bolasie and Kodjia didn't train on Friday so may be its just a simple case that he's not up to speed or adjusting. When you have players like Tammy and McGinn busting a gut all game, it just doesn't sit right with me when players like Bolasie come on and look like they can't be arsed.
I’ve just bumped into Bolassie ‘ Training ‘ at the Belfry , the first thing I said to him was “ you could have put more effort in yesterday “ , his response?  “I was jet lagged” So I asked him why he didn’t tell the manager that to which he had no reply. So he knows he was useless yesterday ( and sitting in Trinity Lower I heard Tammy, Hutton, Terry and Smith all have a go at him at different times ) so we’ll see won’t we. I think he’s a big time Charlie of the Charles N’Zogbia order
Have a look  at his career stats and they don’t make spectacular reading. But the icing on the cake for me tonight was he was wearing a black T shirt  with his name on the back . Not a club one, not his national team one  just a Bolassie billy big bollocks one. I hope his next game he puts a shift in.

Bullshit.

8.38 on a Sunday night and you claim to have bumped into one of our players, intimating you're concerned he's not training and the first thing you claim to have said was to slag him off?

Yeah, of course you did. How about telling him his t-shirt was shit too?

If it's not bullshit, then I'm not quite sure what it says about you.
Bullshit ? If I said I bumped into him training at the Belfry that’s where I bumped into him .. I train there every Sunday evening after getting my youngest children ready for bed.I regularly bump into our players as that’s where most of them stay .Pitarch was also in Sunday running on the treadmill.  The gym closed at 20.30 and that’s when he finished his light workout. Please feel free to say what you have just put in print to my face you wanker .I’d like to see you call me a liar .

No comment. I reckon your fingers obviously work better when they're in fist shape.
No , just where I come from having an opinion  different to someone else’s is one thing , calling them a liar  is defamation unless you have facts to prove otherwise which you obviously haven’t. So I suppose Calling you out is maybe better than threatening taking you to court ?

 

 
 


Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 23, 2018, 12:06:40 AM
Taking him to court! 😂

Drummond you fool, you've tarnished the good name of BrentastonB6. He'll never be able to work in the stalking and insulting footballers at golf courses industry again.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: brentastonb6 on October 23, 2018, 12:14:50 AM
Taking him to court! 😂

Drummond you fool, you've tarnished the good name of BrentastonB6. He'll never be able to work in the stalking and insulting footballers at golf courses industry again.
Bless,it ‘s nice to see all the little girls sticking together when someone has the audacity to challenge them👏
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 23, 2018, 12:18:07 AM
Ooooohhhhh, he called you a girl. Consider yourselves cussed.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 23, 2018, 12:18:19 AM
Little girl? I'll see you in court.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 23, 2018, 12:19:50 AM
Calling him a little girl is definitely a lie and worthy of court action, as I know CD is a big girl!  :-*
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 23, 2018, 12:27:30 AM
I'm so angry I've forgotten who I'm supposed to be suing.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Randy Gurner on October 23, 2018, 02:35:03 AM
I regularly bump into our players as that’s where most of them stay

Please don't speak to them.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Axl Rose on October 23, 2018, 02:51:11 AM
Well, checking this page between classes at University has made me chuckle.

I reckon Smith'll get Bolasie firing, and he'll be a real danger. You can already see how pacey and dangerous he can be. He'll be coached properly, and probably destroy alot of defences.

Good luck to the bloke, I say.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Drummond on October 23, 2018, 07:11:36 AM
Taking him to court! 😂

Drummond you fool, you've tarnished the good name of BrentastonB6. He'll never be able to work in the stalking and insulting footballers at golf courses industry again.
Bless,it ‘s nice to see all the little girls sticking together when someone has the audacity to challenge them👏

A sexist bully too?

Are you going to lay your fists all over me, or take me to court? Surely you wouldn't pick on a little girl?

P. S. Why was training in inverted commas if you really did see him at the gym?

P. P. S why did you not just say "hi Yannick, how are you? Good result, was it hard work?"

P. P. P. S. Was he bigger than you?
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Drummond on October 23, 2018, 07:13:10 AM
I'm so angry I've forgotten who I'm supposed to be suing.

Either me or Bolasie for winding him up.

Careful sister, I may counter sue.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Ads on October 23, 2018, 07:24:46 AM
Counterclaim.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: brian green on October 23, 2018, 07:45:29 AM
 I saw James Collins "training" in the Lord Nelson in Southwold.  I told him he was too old and too slow for Villa and to stay away from Sid.  He had a T shirt with Proud To Be Ginger written on it.  I asked if that meant he was queer.  The paramedics were very good.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Ads on October 23, 2018, 08:55:26 AM
I met Lionel Messi in the Royal Oak.

Told him he couldn't do it on a cold wet night at Stoke. He broke down in tears so I consoled him with some gentle playing of the mandolin.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: brentastonb6 on October 23, 2018, 09:06:30 AM
Little girl? I'll see you in court.
Only if you can prove you aren’t 🤔
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: chrisw1 on October 23, 2018, 09:13:19 AM
I've got to say I'm pretty impressed he was training at 8.30pm in the gym on a Sunday night in a week he's had two games in Aftrica and a sub appearance on Saturday.

And I'm with Drummond, why be confrontational with a player who is in his down time and may turn out to be a key member of our team this season?   Some people just like to be hard I guess.  And then tell everyone about it.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Ads on October 23, 2018, 09:23:00 AM
It's because some people are just dicks.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Ian J on October 23, 2018, 09:31:34 AM
Oh my, is this the first on H&V? A libel case for calling someone a lawyer?

Having an opinion is one thing and that is not the issue, but going out your way to verbally attack a young lad on his day off after one bad day at the office is just a bit sad. Well, if that is what really happened!
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 23, 2018, 10:02:26 AM
Little girl? I'll see you in court.
Only if you can prove you aren’t 🤔

The mods have already warned me once about sending dick pics via PM. I think that's why the General stopped posting.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: brentastonb6 on October 23, 2018, 10:02:42 AM
I've got to say I'm pretty impressed he was training at 8.30pm in the gym on a Sunday night in a week he's had two games in Aftrica and a sub appearance on Saturday.

And I'm with Drummond, why be confrontational with a player who is in his down time and may turn out to be a key member of our team this season?   Some people just like to be hard I guess.  And then tell everyone about it.
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I've got to say I'm pretty impressed he was training at 8.30pm in the gym on a Sunday night in a week he's had two games in Aftrica and a sub appearance on Saturday.

And I'm with Drummond, why be confrontational with a player who is in his down time and may turn out to be a key member of our team this season?   Some people just like to be hard I guess.  And then tell everyone about it.
No he wasn’t confronted I merely had a chat with him on my way past him in a gym,not his lounge or some private VIP area.He didn’t take umbrage with what I said but stated he was jet lagged.  I bump into our players and staff there all the time , they aren’t gods they are paid employees of our club  out in a public place .I don’t feel the need to dress up what I saw on the pitch from yards away as something it wasn’t .likewise if he’d had a brilliant game or just joined the club I’d welcome him accordingly.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: darren woolley on October 23, 2018, 10:13:16 AM
Well this got out of hand and handbags at the ready now girls play nice LOL.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: TheMalandro on October 23, 2018, 10:13:43 AM
He had twenty-odd  minutes on the pitch and created one very good chance.
You felt the need to get in his face? Weird.

That's him told.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: eamonn on October 23, 2018, 12:01:14 PM
Yannick is a big lad, comes across quite cocky at times in interviews which isn't a bad thing, I'm sure he can look after himself. Unless BrentAston was coming at him with a nine-iron which doesn't appear to be the case.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Drummond on October 23, 2018, 12:11:34 PM
Counterclaim.

Isn't that what you do at the Post Office?
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: mr underhill on October 23, 2018, 12:14:07 PM
I bet he doesn't play a full game for us.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: brian green on October 23, 2018, 12:45:52 PM
Bet he does Mr U.  That's if you mean Yannick.  If you mean his training acquaintance at The Belfry nah, too musclebound.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 23, 2018, 01:29:25 PM
I bet he doesn't play a full game for us.

I'll take some of that. Twenty quid?
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Clampy on October 23, 2018, 01:37:26 PM
I'm not overly fussed if he doesn't play a full 90 minutes, as long as he makes a positive contribution when he is on the pitch.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: footyskillz on October 23, 2018, 04:20:43 PM
In 27 minutes of play v Swansea Yannick passing accuracy was at 85.7 %
Decent average.

Compare that to Abraham who 47% under half time he gave ball away .

Bolasie is decent with a football
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on October 23, 2018, 04:50:15 PM
In 27 minutes of play v Swansea Yannick passing accuracy was at 85.7 %
Decent average.

Compare that to Abraham who 47% under half time he gave ball away .

Bolasie is decent with a football

If ever there was a case for proving stats mean very little this is it  ;)
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: footyskillz on October 23, 2018, 04:56:08 PM
In 27 minutes of play v Swansea Yannick passing accuracy was at 85.7 %
Decent average.

Compare that to Abraham who 47% under half time he gave ball away .

Bolasie is decent with a football

If ever there was a case for proving stats mean very little this is it  ;)

I think it shows a lot in the realms of passing.
If had stats for distances covered and other numbers to indicate pressing then that too would show a lot.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: footyskillz on October 23, 2018, 05:07:24 PM
I've got to say I'm pretty impressed he was training at 8.30pm in the gym on a Sunday night in a week he's had two games in Aftrica and a sub appearance on Saturday.

And I'm with Drummond, why be confrontational with a player who is in his down time and may turn out to be a key member of our team this season?   Some people just like to be hard I guess.  And then tell everyone about it.
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I've got to say I'm pretty impressed he was training at 8.30pm in the gym on a Sunday night in a week he's had two games in Aftrica and a sub appearance on Saturday.

And I'm with Drummond, why be confrontational with a player who is in his down time and may turn out to be a key member of our team this season?   Some people just like to be hard I guess.  And then tell everyone about it.
No he wasn’t confronted I merely had a chat with him on my way past him in a gym,not his lounge or some private VIP area.He didn’t take umbrage with what I said but stated he was jet lagged.  I bump into our players and staff there all the time , they aren’t gods they are paid employees of our club  out in a public place .I don’t feel the need to dress up what I saw on the pitch from yards away as something it wasn’t .likewise if he’d had a brilliant game or just joined the club I’d welcome him accordingly.


Well I welcome your share and you're entitled to your view and that you spoke your mind.

What's good is you were honest in what you wanted to say .
I don't know why everyone else is on your case as that should be resreved for cabbage throwers and discriminators.

Quite opposite you were being honest and sounds like Yannick was too!!

For me bolasie is all about energy as a player and also he's in the gym ! That says a lot

Some times in life people don't get things or choose to question or ridicule if they wouldn't act or speak in that way themselves . What's nicer all round is the understanding and that brentastonb6 here kindly shared his interaction .

And feel free to post anymore info or informal chats you have with villa players this season !

Thanks
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on October 23, 2018, 05:17:36 PM
I never knew anything about Bolasie before he joined us so I've been interested to hear what other have to say about him. In the short time I've watched him he seems to be an 'awkward' player, not fluid, very much like Kodja. I'm not sure the team can support two awkward players.

Maybe Smith can straighten them out but I very much doubt it.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: kieron on October 23, 2018, 07:50:33 PM
https://twitter.com/YannickBolasie/status/1054806693496926208

At least he's watching the game from somewhere...
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: mr underhill on October 23, 2018, 08:44:02 PM
sadly not from the pitch. My prediction is still on.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Rigadon on October 23, 2018, 09:01:31 PM
Come villa FFS.  Get a fucking foot in.  El Ghazi... hmm. 
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: myf on October 23, 2018, 10:42:24 PM
In 27 minutes of play v Swansea Yannick passing accuracy was at 85.7 %
Decent average.

Compare that to Abraham who 47% under half time he gave ball away .

Bolasie is decent with a football

If ever there was a case for proving stats mean very little this is it  ;)

spot on. he was fucking useless when he came on. either jet lagged or on strike. hardly moved a muscle
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Villafirst on October 24, 2018, 06:55:54 AM
Hopefully we can send him back to Everton in January. Pulis dodged a bullet there.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 24, 2018, 07:12:47 AM
We don't half have some hysterical drama queens as fans.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Drummond on October 24, 2018, 07:15:49 AM
We don't half have some hysterical drama queens as fans.

Right on sister!
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Villafirst on October 24, 2018, 07:17:35 AM
We don't half have some hysterical drama queens as fans.

That sounds just like a Steve Bruce quote! "Hysteria"
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 24, 2018, 07:45:52 AM
It is pretty hysterical to he wanting to get rid of one of the most talented players in the division because he missed a game, despite putting in extra training on his day off to try to make it.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: mr underhill on October 24, 2018, 09:31:15 AM
when you are 14 games in and that player has yet to start and has cost you an eye watering amount of money that would have been better spent elsewhere, then i think his critics have every eight to be concerned. And I'll take your £20 bet.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 24, 2018, 10:03:51 AM
Done.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: mr underhill on October 24, 2018, 12:40:38 PM
ha! the game's afoot CD.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 24, 2018, 06:30:48 PM
when you are 14 games in and that player has yet to start and has cost you an eye watering amount of money that would have been better spent elsewhere, then i think his critics have every eight to be concerned. And I'll take your £20 bet.

I'm disgusted that he didn't start any of the first 5 games, despite not being a Villa player for them!
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: eamonn on October 24, 2018, 08:04:00 PM
He blesses himself when he leaves the pitch so he must have some morals, I guess.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on October 24, 2018, 08:07:15 PM
He blesses himself when he leaves the pitch so he must have some morals, I guess.
Probably offering his thanks for another £70k in his offshore bank account :)
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: sickbeggar on October 24, 2018, 08:32:34 PM
my worry is he hasn't recovered from that injury. Given his wages it was always a big gamble for Bruce. Add to that he doesn't even score much - well i'm not sure he's going to appeal to Smith long term
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: footyskillz on October 25, 2018, 10:10:34 PM
In smithy press conference pre QPR he said

 "I didn't think Yannick made enough of an impact when he came on against Swansea and I spoke to him about that and he's worked hard all week and had a really good training session and is available for selection "

Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Newby on October 25, 2018, 10:16:16 PM
It's good to know that Dean Smith isn't too concerned about letting the players know what he thinks.  Hopefully, Bolasie takes it on the chin and comes back more determined.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: footyskillz on October 25, 2018, 10:49:15 PM
Smith has to make his mark and I fear Bolasie , kodjia or may be one of the marked men to not fit the energy, hard work and enthusiasm mantra.

I suspect El Ghazi will be in that picture too.

All talented with the ball it's the work off it that may prohibit them.

Jedinak will be interesting and may be the senior figure to leave in January depending on how things are.

All Yannick can do is get playing and do the stuff asked .
It's not totally his natural game but smithy has time for  flair attacking players he just wants to make sure they have the right attitude
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: TheMalandro on October 25, 2018, 11:13:34 PM
I wouldn't fear Smith's assessment Footyskillz. If they are left out, it's based on attitude or lack of ability. He wants attacking football.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: footyskillz on October 25, 2018, 11:29:50 PM
There's also the show them who's boss syndrome where players are made examples sometimes just to show managwr authority as much as I don't fancy him .

Attitude will be found out and as much as clean slates given managers come in and say you won't fit my style.

I notice there is a bomb squad thread I don't think it's a  thing or it's at that level but it would be no surprise one of players mentioned and may add Lansbury , Richards won't be much involved and certainly attitudes have to be right .

However to reiterate it's often case a player or two is deemed not part plans .as well as making room in squad for incoming .

In this case Smith is clear on what works for him regards running and movement  demands.

Smith also seems to front up and has dialogue with players more current approach than an old school shunning players. He ll be up front with it.

Feel O'Kelly is the softer one with coach and JT the go to for the players .

Smith rules hard but fair.
Seems all good and clear !

Up the villa!

Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: brentastonb6 on October 30, 2018, 11:59:55 PM
I've got to say I'm pretty impressed he was training at 8.30pm in the gym on a Sunday night in a week he's had two games in Aftrica and a sub appearance on Saturday.

And I'm with Drummond, why be confrontational with a player who is in his down time and may turn out to be a key member of our team this season?   Some people just like to be hard I guess.  And then tell everyone about it.
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I've got to say I'm pretty impressed he was training at 8.30pm in the gym on a Sunday night in a week he's had two games in Aftrica and a sub appearance on Saturday.

And I'm with Drummond, why be confrontational with a player who is in his down time and may turn out to be a key member of our team this season?   Some people just like to be hard I guess.  And then tell everyone about it.
No he wasn’t confronted I merely had a chat with him on my way past him in a gym,not his lounge or some private VIP area.He didn’t take umbrage with what I said but stated he was jet lagged.  I bump into our players and staff there all the time , they aren’t gods they are paid employees of our club  out in a public place .I don’t feel the need to dress up what I saw on the pitch from yards away as something it wasn’t .likewise if he’d had a brilliant game or just joined the club I’d welcome him accordingly.


Well I welcome your share and you're entitled to your view and that you spoke your mind.

What's good is you were honest in what you wanted to say .
I don't know why everyone else is on your case as that should be resreved for cabbage throwers and discriminators.

Quite opposite you were being honest and sounds like Yannick was too!!

For me bolasie is all about energy as a player and also he's in the gym ! That says a lot

Some times in life people don't get things or choose to question or ridicule if they wouldn't act or speak in that way themselves . What's nicer all round is the understanding and that brentastonb6 here kindly shared his interaction .

And feel free to post anymore info or informal chats you have with villa players this season !

Thanks
Thanks for the thanks, not too worried about people having a go ....there are a lot of keyboard warriors  but like all of us they are entitled to their opinions so I don’t think I’ll be changing my identity or route home . Likewise since my post I haven’t seen anything in Yannick to make me change my mind  . I would actually like to be wrong as  I never want to see any Villa player fail and I’ll happily eat humble pie if his form contributes to us returning to the premier league. UTV
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Ads on October 31, 2018, 06:39:37 AM
I don't understand what the issue with him being in the gym in his day off was.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: eamonn on October 31, 2018, 07:52:39 PM
He looked pained at QPR when trying to run without the ball. Hope we haven't signed a crock.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: brentastonb6 on October 31, 2018, 11:04:13 PM
I don't understand what the issue with him being in the gym in his day off was.
There wasn’t . It was more around if he was trying to put in extra work to get himself fit it was the biggest non workout you ever saw, my five year old daughter puts in more effort .When she plays football it looks like she’s putting in more effort than him too at the moment.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 31, 2018, 11:18:24 PM
I don't understand what the issue with him being in the gym in his day off was.
There wasn’t . It was more around if he was trying to put in extra work to get himself fit it was the biggest non workout you ever saw, my five year old daughter puts in more effort .When she plays football it looks like she’s putting in more effort than him too at the moment.

Maybe,  possibly, he was told by the physios to do some light training to keep ticking over until he was back at Bodymoor. None of us are fitness experts and none of us know what's best for a player the day after a match.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Ads on November 01, 2018, 12:30:38 AM
I don't understand what the issue with him being in the gym in his day off was.
There wasn’t . It was more around if he was trying to put in extra work to get himself fit it was the biggest non workout you ever saw, my five year old daughter puts in more effort .When she plays football it looks like she’s putting in more effort than him too at the moment.

How much work can you really do in the gym on your own?

If you're doing gym work you need the supervision of a coach or the pressure to excel of a class or a team chipper for the WOD to count.

The physio had him doing a specific warm up half time. He also stamps his foot deliberately after a delivery. He's being nursed.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Clampy on November 01, 2018, 08:06:27 AM
I like how it's gone from him having a 'light workout' to it now being the 'biggest non-workout' anyone has ever seen.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: brian green on November 01, 2018, 08:23:36 AM
£70k a week for a player who has to be nursed.  Says It all about post MON spending on players really.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Clampy on November 01, 2018, 08:40:23 AM
Are we actually paying him £70k a week though or is that just a figure that's been plucked out of the air?
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: in exile on November 01, 2018, 02:57:08 PM
Christ...if a player needs to be nursed to get the best out of him, then nurse him.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: brian green on November 01, 2018, 09:47:17 PM
If it's £700 a week I would expect a player in a Villa shirt to be more like Milner and less like Downing.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: cdbullyweefan on November 01, 2018, 10:13:28 PM
Downing was quite good for us, and also took a while to get to full fitness. When he did, if was worth the wait. The main downside of his play was his constant chickening out of tackles, but I've seen no evidence of that from Bolasie.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: brian green on November 01, 2018, 10:32:39 PM
Nor I.  I was making the point about Downing's physical condition.  When we were a Premiership side with several top class players we could afford to play the long game with potentially valuable players.  Now we are a fixture in the middle of the Championship we do not have the luxury of giving potentially good players extensive periods of time to be of value to us.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: brentastonb6 on November 02, 2018, 12:09:41 AM
I like how it's gone from him having a 'light workout' to it now being the 'biggest non-workout' anyone has ever seen.
Semantics, but glad you like the change 👍
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Villafirst on November 02, 2018, 06:47:23 AM
We signed him at the end of August. His fitness then must've been awful - how did he pass a medical? A third of the season gone and still not fully fit over 2 months later? Bad decision making on transfers still prevails at the club.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on November 02, 2018, 03:06:42 PM
We signed him at the end of August. His fitness then must've been awful - how did he pass a medical? A third of the season gone and still not fully fit over 2 months later? Bad decision making on transfers still prevails at the club.
Perhaps he is good company for Richards .....laughing all the way to the bank ...... I read that Collins is also injured - however I presume we are not paying him ...are we????
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Three Spires Villa on November 02, 2018, 10:57:58 PM
Did very well when he came on 👍
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: SoccerHQ on November 02, 2018, 10:58:09 PM
Who's Collins?
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: dave shelley on November 03, 2018, 08:46:23 AM
Who's Collins?

Joan or Jacquie.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 10, 2018, 04:55:15 PM
For someone so shit and lazy he sure seems to provide a lot of goals and assists  ;)
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: SoccerHQ on November 10, 2018, 05:05:02 PM
I imagine for what Smith wants he hasn't got the fitness for 90 or even 60 minutes so Adomah is better from start and Bolasie is better as impact sub while he works up his level.

Two weeks training if DR congo haven't called him up and I'd consider starting him v SHA. Him and Grealish will surely be too much for their back 4, they conceded 3 to Hull today.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Risso on November 10, 2018, 05:13:04 PM
I imagine for what Smith wants he hasn't got the fitness for 90 or even 60 minutes so Adomah is better from start and Bolasie is better as impact sub while he works up his level.

Two weeks training if DR congo haven't called him up and I'd consider starting him v SHA. Him and Grealish will surely be too much for their back 4, they conceded 3 to Hull today.

That bastard Doctor Congo has got a lot to answer for.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Sexual Ealing on November 10, 2018, 05:24:24 PM
I imagine for what Smith wants he hasn't got the fitness for 90 or even 60 minutes so Adomah is better from start and Bolasie is better as impact sub while he works up his level.

Two weeks training if DR congo haven't called him up and I'd consider starting him v SHA. Him and Grealish will surely be too much for their back 4, they conceded 3 to Hull today.

That bastard Doctor Congo has got a lot to answer for.

He prescribes nothing but Um-Bongo. No wonder Yannick can't last 90 mins.

What a cross today though.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: SoccerHQ on November 10, 2018, 06:43:13 PM
Actually in the latest squad......versus Congo.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DR_Congo_national_football_team
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Three Spires Villa on November 10, 2018, 07:55:48 PM
He was bloody great, can’t wait for him to start, he will, & has caused problems in this league
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: brentastonb6 on November 10, 2018, 10:41:37 PM
For someone so shit and lazy he sure seems to provide a lot of goals and assists  ;)
Pleased for him and us, I just hope he keeps it up 👍
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 28, 2018, 10:53:05 PM
Another 2 assists, working on the premise that winning a converted pen is an assist. For Fantasy Football it is so that's good enough for me. Him and Tammy will absolutely terrify every defence in this league.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: brontebilly on November 28, 2018, 10:58:35 PM
Another 2 assists, working on the premise that winning a converted pen is an assist. For Fantasy Football it is so that's good enough for me. Him and Tammy will absolutely terrify every defence in this league.

cracking assist for the first, absolutely nailed that cross

should have been taken off about 10 mins before he was mind, which again is very concerning given the budget used to bring him in
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Matt Collins on November 28, 2018, 11:05:56 PM
I thought he was great
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: adrenachrome on November 29, 2018, 12:24:36 AM
Nobody who has a clue would doubt his talent, and there are some signs that he is up for it after recent performances.

The reason we have him on loan goes beyond his injury though, and we shall soon see if it was a good piece of business. I am quite optimistic.


Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: ChicagoLion on November 29, 2018, 12:26:33 AM
He is some player at this level.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: SoccerHQ on November 29, 2018, 12:32:20 AM
Hopefully we'll see him and Albert on the flanks when he's fit again.

Opposition won't handle those two, Abraham + Jack.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 29, 2018, 12:33:53 AM
He's played the equivalent of about three and a half games so far and has 2 goals and 3 assists (I think including the pen) plus created a number of other chances. If we get him fit enough to play on a regular basis he'll smash this division.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Ads on November 29, 2018, 12:52:17 AM
He's quick isn't he?!
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: adrenachrome on November 29, 2018, 01:12:08 AM
He's quick isn't he?!

In his prime at CP, he terrorised PL defences. Having Zaha on the other wing would have helped.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Ad@m on November 29, 2018, 06:18:59 AM
He's quick isn't he?!

He is, but I'm not entirely sure he has any idea what his legs are actually doing.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: john e on November 29, 2018, 07:39:51 AM
I like him

he tries to do things no other player will try
not everything will work out
Dangerous cross field balls which get cut out, ie Saturday
crosses that are to deep, or to hard
Quick fire shots at goal

but he’s a massive danger player, I like his direct approach he tries to make things happen every time he has the ball
I think he’s scored and had assists most times he’s been on the pitch

I can forgive the stuff that doesn’t come off because he makes a difference with the things that do in every game
I would prefer him to Albert if it was a straight choice between the two
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: in exile on November 29, 2018, 12:27:33 PM
he tries to do things no other player will try
not everything will work out
Dangerous cross field balls which get cut out, ie Saturday
crosses that are to deep, or to hard
Quick fire shots at goal

Terrible poem
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: SheffieldVillain on November 29, 2018, 12:38:04 PM
I would prefer him to Albert if it was a straight choice between the two

I'd prefer him and Albert in the same team I think, with Kodija missing out.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Ads on November 29, 2018, 12:39:31 PM
El Ghazi looked a handful too which is pleasing.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Chris Smith on November 29, 2018, 12:45:08 PM
He was good but did noticeably tire though and should have been replaced 5 minutes earlier. I think the confusion around that contributed to one of their goals.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: AV82EC on November 29, 2018, 01:03:12 PM
His first start and the good thing is he’ll improve from here. An hour or so in his legs up that another 10 mins Saturday and he’ll be appproaching full fitness by Xmas.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: john e on November 29, 2018, 01:11:17 PM
he tries to do things no other player will try
not everything will work out
Dangerous cross field balls which get cut out, ie Saturday
crosses that are to deep, or to hard
Quick fire shots at goal

Terrible poem

S.T. Coleridge eat your heart out
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: villasjf on November 30, 2018, 12:50:52 PM
Iirc when he was called upon to come on as a sub re blues he didnt even have his socks and boots on so how could he have warmed up?
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Ad@m on November 30, 2018, 12:55:18 PM
His first start and the good thing is he’ll improve from here. An hour or so in his legs up that another 10 mins Saturday and he’ll be appproaching full fitness by Xmas.

This is something I'll never understand.

He's been with us since August.  How can it take a professional footballer four months to get to full fitness?!
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: XXVilla on November 30, 2018, 01:02:36 PM
His first start and the good thing is he’ll improve from here. An hour or so in his legs up that another 10 mins Saturday and he’ll be appproaching full fitness by Xmas.

This is something I'll never understand.

He's been with us since August.  How can it take a professional footballer four months to get to full fitness?!

Ever tried running on a limb where a bone has been broken?
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Ad@m on November 30, 2018, 01:05:26 PM
His first start and the good thing is he’ll improve from here. An hour or so in his legs up that another 10 mins Saturday and he’ll be appproaching full fitness by Xmas.

This is something I'll never understand.

He's been with us since August.  How can it take a professional footballer four months to get to full fitness?!

Ever tried running on a limb where a bone has been broken?

I have as it happens.  Not sure what that's got to do with Yannick Bolasie though.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: XXVilla on November 30, 2018, 01:08:14 PM
His first start and the good thing is he’ll improve from here. An hour or so in his legs up that another 10 mins Saturday and he’ll be appproaching full fitness by Xmas.

This is something I'll never understand.

He's been with us since August.  How can it take a professional footballer four months to get to full fitness?!



Ever tried running on a limb where a bone has been broken?

I have as it happens.  Not sure what that's got to do with Yannick Bolasie though.

I’m saying it takes months for tissues to heal properly. Cardio vascular fitness is only part of the recovery process.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Ian J on November 30, 2018, 02:00:21 PM
His first start and the good thing is he’ll improve from here. An hour or so in his legs up that another 10 mins Saturday and he’ll be appproaching full fitness by Xmas.

This is something I'll never understand.

He's been with us since August.  How can it take a professional footballer four months to get to full fitness?!

Ever tried running on a limb where a bone has been broken?

I have as it happens.  Not sure what that's got to do with Yannick Bolasie though.
I'm glad he's here though, he's well worth the wait. He's a very exciting player.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Ad@m on November 30, 2018, 02:05:19 PM
His first start and the good thing is he’ll improve from here. An hour or so in his legs up that another 10 mins Saturday and he’ll be appproaching full fitness by Xmas.

This is something I'll never understand.

He's been with us since August.  How can it take a professional footballer four months to get to full fitness?!



Ever tried running on a limb where a bone has been broken?

I have as it happens.  Not sure what that's got to do with Yannick Bolasie though.

I’m saying it takes months for tissues to heal properly. Cardio vascular fitness is only part of the recovery process.

I agree. But which bone has Bolasie broken?

If you're actually referring to him rupturing his ACL, that was two years ago and it normally takes 12 months to get back to full fitness from that sort of injury.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: XXVilla on November 30, 2018, 02:22:36 PM
His first start and the good thing is he’ll improve from here. An hour or so in his legs up that another 10 mins Saturday and he’ll be appproaching full fitness by Xmas.

This is something I'll never understand.

He's been with us since August.  How can it take a professional footballer four months to get to full fitness?!



Ever tried running on a limb where a bone has been broken?

I have as it happens.  Not sure what that's got to do with Yannick Bolasie though.

I’m saying it takes months for tissues to heal properly. Cardio vascular fitness is only part of the recovery process.

I agree. But which bone has Bolasie broken?

If you're actually referring to him rupturing his ACL, that was two years ago and it normally takes 12 months to get back to full fitness from that sort of injury.

I was just using a broken bone as an example. I know what an ACL is and how long it takes to recover from tearing one .
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: in exile on November 30, 2018, 03:17:33 PM
Someone pass me the pop corn bucket, the bitchin's started
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: CT Villan on November 30, 2018, 03:27:27 PM
Someone pass me the pop corn bucket, the bitchin's started

I gave it to Nyland to bring over to you...

(https://media.giphy.com/media/pVBUBqNdTdsVuiybM4/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: in exile on November 30, 2018, 03:28:18 PM
Someone pass me the pop corn bucket, the bitchin's started

I gave it to Nyland to bring over to you...

(https://media.giphy.com/media/pVBUBqNdTdsVuiybM4/giphy.gif)
Nooooooooooo!
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Ad@m on November 30, 2018, 05:31:50 PM
You used an example of an injury Bolasie never had to explain why he's not fit?!
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: XXVilla on November 30, 2018, 05:56:31 PM
You used an example of an injury Bolasie never had to explain why he's not fit?!

I’ve already explained. You asked why does it take professional footballers so long to get fit again. I said that it takes more than cardio vascular fitness using a broken bone as an example although I didn’t suggest YB has broken a bone although you tried to make me look foolish by suggesting I did. What’s so difficult to understand?
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Ad@m on November 30, 2018, 06:58:47 PM
Ok, I'll try it another way.

Just like Bolasie, lots of other players in the squad haven't been injured all year. So how come they're all fit and he isn't?
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: XXVilla on November 30, 2018, 07:09:16 PM
Ok, I'll try it another way.

Just like Bolasie, lots of other players in the squad haven't been injured all year. So how come they're all fit and he isn't?

Who says he’s not functionally fit? He might lack match fitness, but I’m sure you’ll agree that’s not the same thing. Match fitness only comes with game time.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 01, 2018, 08:33:47 PM
And another assist. He's played the equivalent of just over 4 games (minutes wise) and has 2 goals, 3 assists and created a number of other chances as well.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Damo70 on December 01, 2018, 08:39:59 PM
Someone pass me the pop corn bucket, the bitchin's started

I gave it to Nyland to bring over to you...

(https://media.giphy.com/media/pVBUBqNdTdsVuiybM4/giphy.gif)
Nooooooooooo!



Is that a Youtube clip titled 'Neymar Goes To The Cinema'?
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Clampy on December 01, 2018, 09:50:37 PM
Ok, I'll try it another way.

Just like Bolasie, lots of other players in the squad haven't been injured all year. So how come they're all fit and he isn't?

He's playing, he's setting up goals and making a contribution. What's the problem?
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: not3bad on December 01, 2018, 10:01:34 PM
Guy just got on the train playing a Beatles song.

Got to admit, it's getting better....
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: adrenachrome on December 01, 2018, 10:26:25 PM
In the old days, specialist full backs had one task: to deal with wingers. Force them oustide, and then block the cross, usually with was what was then called a sliding tackle. Our own Charlie Aitken was an exemplar of the trade.

Now, a winger is a luxury, and just needs pace plus one trick. Bolassie has prodigious pace plus 4 or 5 tricks. He is lethal in this division.

The downside is that Everton will want him back.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: OCD on December 01, 2018, 10:31:49 PM
Not sure they will. For his trickery and some end product, he gives the ball away a fair bit too - against lesser quality defenders. With the players we have and in this league, its not much of a problem but he would soon frustrate Everton coaches and fans.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: andyh on December 01, 2018, 10:34:24 PM
https://twitter.com/jimmyhessel/status/1068986648485117952?s=12
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Dave P on December 02, 2018, 08:23:25 AM

The downside is that Everton will want him back.

https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/yannick-bolasie.104334/page-88

They won’t!
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: bjfoster on December 02, 2018, 09:40:29 AM
Keep them fit and him Abraham will tear this league apart. And in style.

Just worry about the fitness bit!
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: themossman on December 02, 2018, 11:31:46 AM
Last night he looked like he was taking the piss against players several levels below him.

He’s quick, skilful and strong. There were periods where he looked like he could get into boro’s box and make space so easily he almost surprised himself and the final ball suffered as a result. Absolute baller.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Damo70 on December 02, 2018, 12:52:15 PM
I said when we signed him that if (and it was a fairly big if at the time) we could get him fit and on form he would be a stand out player in the Championship.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 15, 2018, 05:09:56 PM
And I'll take your £20 bet.

The drinks will be on CD tonight.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: adrenachrome on December 15, 2018, 07:14:02 PM
And I'll take your £20 bet.

The drinks will be on CD tonight.

Mine's a pint of Pernod. Cheers.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: mr underhill on December 15, 2018, 09:04:18 PM
PM me CD with your details.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: cdbullyweefan on December 15, 2018, 09:44:17 PM
Don't worry about it mate, I don't really want to take money off a Villa fan. If you feel the urge to spend twenty quid, stick it in the Acorns bucket next game or something like that. 👍🏿
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: XXVilla on December 15, 2018, 10:21:22 PM
I thought he was great today. The lack of movement in midfield left him in limbo for the final ball. Hourihane is not the answer there.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: ChicagoLion on December 15, 2018, 10:41:43 PM
I thought he was great today. The lack of movement in midfield left him in limbo for the final ball. Hourihane is not the answer there.
He was carrying the fight on his own today.
He was getting frustrated with Hourihane.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Risso on December 15, 2018, 10:56:25 PM
I thought he was a headless chicken today.  His decision making and final balls were dreadful.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: XXVilla on December 15, 2018, 10:58:22 PM
I thought he was a headless chicken today.  His decision making and final balls were dreadful.

There was no one making the run. What else was he supposed to do?
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Risso on December 15, 2018, 11:02:51 PM
I thought he was a headless chicken today.  His decision making and final balls were dreadful.

There was no one making the run. What else was he supposed to do?

Pass to another Villa player.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Border villan on December 15, 2018, 11:16:27 PM
At times you have to wonder if anyone, including Bolasie, has a clue what he is doing.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Clampy on December 16, 2018, 08:40:00 AM
He's absolutely wasted playing on the left. I know it's to accomodate El Gahzi on the right but even when he went off,  Smith still didn't change it. The one time Bolasie drifted out to the right, he puts the cross in for Kodjia's goal.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: XXVilla on December 16, 2018, 09:19:46 AM
I thought he was a headless chicken today.  His decision making and final balls were dreadful.

There was no one making the run. What else was he supposed to do?

Pass to another Villa player.

One who’s just standing there behind a Stoke player?
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: wittonwarrior on December 16, 2018, 10:16:34 AM
Take away his speed and strength yiu have to wonder how he gets such favourable coverage
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: john e on December 16, 2018, 10:51:06 AM
not very thing he does comes off if it did he wouldn't be playing for us he'd be at Barca

but he always looks dangerous to me, I often wonder what some of you lot are watching same with Grealish in the past
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Ads on December 16, 2018, 11:42:36 AM
Bolasie was integral at two moments of quality; the excellent move where he should have hit the target and yet another inch perfect cross for the 2nd equaliser.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Keeno on December 16, 2018, 12:35:08 PM
Bolasie was integral at two moments of quality; the excellent move where he should have hit the target and yet another inch perfect cross for the 2nd equaliser.

Agreed. He is the kind of player that will constantly try things and when they don't come off looks a bit silly. He definitely missed Jack floating around in the inside left channel to use to drag players away and to thread him the ball when he ran inside the full back. With Hutton not a natural left back I don't think he overlapped at all yesterday which Bolasie could have done with to create a bit of extra space. Was often faced with two/three defenders square on to him and then the only option was to try to beat the man - which doesn't always come off.

We saw his quality for Kodjia's goal - he'll always make assist contributions at this level. A combination of factors (and a decent Stoke side) meant he was less effective and less pleasing on the eye yesterday, but I'd expect him to shred the inexperienced Leeds defence next weekend.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: SheffieldVillain on December 16, 2018, 01:08:21 PM
Take away his speed and strength yiu have to wonder how he gets such favourable coverage

Why would you disregard his strengths?

It's fairly obvious why he gets favourable coverage - he's an exciting player who gets assists and goals.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Nastylee on December 16, 2018, 01:31:01 PM
Take away his speed and strength yiu have to wonder how he gets such favourable coverage

Why would you disregard his strengths?

It's fairly obvious why he gets favourable coverage - he's an exciting player who gets assists and goals.

But that's you taking his strength, pace, ability to cross and beat a player into account. Take those away then have a moment to reflect on why he gets favourable coverage. I bet you get a different answer then  :o
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Risso on December 16, 2018, 01:33:15 PM
I like Bolasie a lot, and he's an exciting player to watch, but think he's been poor the last two games.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: CT on December 16, 2018, 01:39:16 PM
I like Bolasie a lot, and he's an exciting player to watch, but think he's been poor the last two games.

Yep, same here. What I didn't like was his constant moaning at team mates. There's a noticeable feelgood factor around the club now so hopefully that was a one off yesterday.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: SheffieldVillain on December 16, 2018, 02:19:07 PM
Take away his speed and strength yiu have to wonder how he gets such favourable coverage

Why would you disregard his strengths?

It's fairly obvious why he gets favourable coverage - he's an exciting player who gets assists and goals.

But that's you taking his strength, pace, ability to cross and beat a player into account. Take those away then have a moment to reflect on why he gets favourable coverage. I bet you get a different answer then  :o

You're right, I'm sorry. When taking away all the many things he's good at, mostly the things you would ask of a winger, he's not very good and it's baffling why people like him.

On a serious note, good to see him lasting full games now - clearly back to full fitness.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: themossman on December 16, 2018, 02:50:49 PM
Agree with risso he didn’t impress me much yesterday. Wasteful with the chances which, in fairness, he created. He does sometimes looks like he finds it easy to get into great positions then doesn’t know what to when he’s there.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: achilles on December 16, 2018, 06:43:20 PM
Bolasie offers very little, if any, defensive cover therefore expecting the fullback to overlap leaves us extremely exposed if Bolasie loses the ball.
Compare him to Adomah on the left, who may not be quite so talented but works offensively and defensively, much more solid option.
Think sometimes that he is a better option being used as a substitute, coming on later on in games when the opposition are tired.

His stats are 15 appearances, 11 as sub, 2 goals and 4 assists, nothing startling for a £25 million PL player, perhaps there is more to come?
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 16, 2018, 09:49:25 PM
His stats are 15 appearances, 11 as sub, 2 goals and 4 assists, nothing startling for a £25 million PL player, perhaps there is more to come?


He's spent the equivalent of 6 full games on the pitch. I'll take an average of a goal or assist every game plus the load of other chances he's been involved in that weren't converted.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Brassneck on December 16, 2018, 09:56:21 PM
It's mad that after the recent campaign for Bolasie to start matches, within 2 full appearances, people are questioning him.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: john e on December 16, 2018, 09:56:49 PM
Bolasie offers very little, if any, defensive cover therefore expecting the fullback to overlap leaves us extremely exposed if Bolasie loses the ball.
Compare him to Adomah on the left, who may not be quite so talented but works offensively and defensively, much more solid option.
Think sometimes that he is a better option being used as a substitute, coming on later on in games when the opposition are tired.

His stats are 15 appearances, 11 as sub, 2 goals and 4 assists, nothing startling for a £25 million PL player, perhaps there is more to come?


all I know is I get more excited when Bolasie gets the ball and is running at the opposition than when Albert does
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: eamonn on December 17, 2018, 08:43:13 AM
It's mad that after the recent campaign for Bolasie to start matches, within 2 full appearances, people are questioning him.

Maybe they're seeing that he's better deployed as a sub.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Villafirst on December 17, 2018, 08:56:40 AM
He's still building up match fitness after so long out. It doesn't happen overnight. He still provided a quality cross for Kodjia to score.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Dave P on December 17, 2018, 09:24:58 AM
Bolasie is a “bums off seats” winger who is perfect for this team. He is frustrating at times as most wingers are. What he can offer is a cross like the one for Kodjia on Saturday, McGinn’s goal at Derby or Tammy’s at Boro.   
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: KRS on December 17, 2018, 09:54:15 AM
“Inconsistent” and “frustrating” are 2 words I would use to describe Bolasie...which is a significant improvement on what I thought about him against Swansea! He’s been playing well recently but he had a mare on Saturday even though he still put in the cross for the equaliser...he’s capable of the sublime but equally capable of blasting or shanking one into the Holte, or giving away possession cheaply. If the shit can be trained out of him then hopefully he’ll produce more sublime than crap.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Clampy on December 17, 2018, 10:12:41 AM
Like I said a few days ago, he's wasted out on the left wing. Play him on the right and he will be a lot more effective. I think overall he's been pretty decent given the amount of match time he's had.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: ChicagoLion on December 17, 2018, 10:58:56 AM
Based on the positions he gets himself into you expect more end product.
But what a talent.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Dave P on December 17, 2018, 11:00:15 AM
Like I said a few days ago, he's wasted out on the left wing. Play him on the right and he will be a lot more effective. I think overall he's been pretty decent given the amount of match time he's had.

I noticed on Saturday that a lot of our early attacks started from our right with Bolasie.  He then swapped with El Ghazi and we attacked a lot more down the left.  Whether it is a deliberate ploy to feed Bolasie more often or whether he was getting in the game more then El Ghazi, who was quiet all game.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: paul_e on December 17, 2018, 01:48:44 PM
Bolasie is turning out better that I expected but he's exactly the type of player I expected in that he's dangerous but massively inconsistent. My concern was always that he wouldn't be consistent enough to be worth the cost, right now he's just about on the right side of that so I'm happy with him but he's still not as good as he should be.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: wittonwarrior on December 17, 2018, 02:46:18 PM
Bolasie is turning out better that I expected but he's exactly the type of player I expected in that he's dangerous but massively inconsistent. My concern was always that he wouldn't be consistent enough to be worth the cost, right now he's just about on the right side of that so I'm happy with him but he's still not as good as he should be.


Exactly my point he is no superstar but an adequate player at this level.  My biggest grip about him is that he is constantly moaning.  Enjoy the game man.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Toronto Villa on December 17, 2018, 02:51:35 PM
He's the type of player that can win you games on his own at this level. He's not consistent enough for the PL and not someone if we do go up I'd like to last our 30m on. Everton got mugged.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: brontebilly on December 17, 2018, 03:31:27 PM
He's the type of player that can win you games on his own at this level. He's not consistent enough for the PL and not someone if we do go up I'd like to last our 30m on. Everton got mugged.

Wasn't he very good at Palace? That was a mess of an Everton side last season and very few if anyone shined in it. Wouldn't hold it against him.

Bolasie's pace and strength will always help him in this division but he hasn't come close to someone like Snodgrass' impact thus far.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Border villan on December 17, 2018, 05:54:52 PM
He's the type of player that can win you games on his own at this level. He's not consistent enough for the PL and not someone if we do go up I'd like to last our 30m on. Everton got mugged.

Wasn't he very good at Palace? That was a mess of an Everton side last season and very few if anyone shined in it. Wouldn't hold it against him.

Bolasie's pace and strength will always help him in this division but he hasn't come close to someone like Snodgrass' impact thus far.
A few motorway service station meals should sort that.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: mr underhill on December 18, 2018, 02:09:07 PM
Snoddy benefited hugely from his loan spell with us, even if he did put weight on whilst at VP. Has looked very good for west Ham this season.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: adrenachrome on December 18, 2018, 11:40:22 PM
Snoddy benefited hugely from his loan spell with us, even if he did put weight on whilst at VP. Has looked very good for west Ham this season.

True dat; and he would still be with us were it not for tenuous takeover timings.

Still, both parties benefited from the loan arrangement.

Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on December 23, 2018, 06:12:28 PM
https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/competitions/championship/11590412/bolasies-filthy-nutmeg
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: achilles on December 23, 2018, 06:24:05 PM
https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/competitions/championship/11590412/bolasies-filthy-nutmeg

With no end product, like most of his afternoon!
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Border villan on December 24, 2018, 10:29:45 AM
Yesterday he bought depth and meaning to the expression "headless chicken".
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Newby on December 24, 2018, 10:35:55 AM
He won't make it anywhere until he plays for the team and has more consistency.  Yes, it's lovely when it comes off, but I want him to do it so much more often, same as Jimmy Danger.  Brilliant when it works, but they need to take the right decisions on the pitch. Keep it simple, stupid!
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: brontebilly on December 24, 2018, 10:52:38 AM
I'd be bringing Adamoah back in. Should be one of Bolasie, Kodjia or El Ghazi on the other side until they start putting a shift in defensively.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on December 24, 2018, 11:28:47 AM
I'd be bringing Adamoah back in. Should be one of Bolasie, Kodjia or El Ghazi on the other side until they start putting a shift in defensively.

This.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Clampy on December 24, 2018, 12:15:36 PM
I still don't get why he's playing on the left. Put him out on the right and you'll see a more effective player. Smith is wrong playing him where he is.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: RussellC on December 24, 2018, 12:21:48 PM
I still don't get why he's playing on the left. Put him out on the right and you'll see a more effective player. Smith is wrong playing him where he is.

He hasn't been playing exclusively on the left though. Him, Kodjie, El Ghazi and even Abraham have been pretty fluid in the positions along the front-line. Bolasie set-up McGinn's goal at Derby with a brilliant cross from the left-handside, as an example. Kodjia, set-up Hourihane's coming-in from the right-handside yesterday. I wouldn't say that Smith is doing anything wrong in terms of our attacking play.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Clampy on December 24, 2018, 12:42:49 PM
But his assists have mainly come from the right. He seems to be overdoing things on the left. Just my take on it though.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Matt Collins on December 24, 2018, 05:05:09 PM
His productivity has been pretty good though

But I agree our full backs need more protection. I'd play adomah and el ghazi v Swansea I think
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: wittonwarrior on December 25, 2018, 11:46:16 AM
He makes kodja look like a team player
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: eamonn on December 25, 2018, 03:00:05 PM
His left foot is shite and he's lazy at tracking back.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: KRS on December 25, 2018, 03:14:34 PM
Still frustrating and inconsistent...flashes of genius one minute followed by idiotic decision making the next.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Pete3206 on December 25, 2018, 06:35:43 PM
Amazing how a defeat amplifies the criticism. Bolasie is one of the most exciting players I've seen in a Villa shirt for years. It's not his fault we have a collander for a back four and an absolute clown shoes for a keeper.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: KRS on December 25, 2018, 07:30:59 PM
Each to their own but I’d say that’s more indicative of the lack of quality or exciting players we’ve had for years than testament to Bolasies abilities. He can be exciting because no one can second guess what he’s going to do next...not even himself! Perfect example being that amazing piece of skill taking out 2 Leeds defenders...then that facepalm moment a few minutes later.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Matt Collins on December 25, 2018, 09:21:42 PM
He's got quite a few goals and assists already

I think he's done a fair bit more standard wing play than I'd expected. Knock it past a man and whip it in
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Clark W Griswold on December 26, 2018, 01:16:06 PM
He's put my mind at rest in regards to worrying he would be a new N Zogbia, he's got a far better attitude than he had and is more effective as a result. He's also pretty damn entertaining at times, but to say he's one of the best of recent years even as shite as we've been would be a major overstatement. Snodgrass and for the most part Adomah were both better last season for starters.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: mr underhill on December 26, 2018, 03:36:27 PM
they were incomparably better,  on assists and goals alone
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on December 26, 2018, 05:23:30 PM
I'm still struggling to see what he brings to the party other than a couple of circus tricks. He's strong and powerful but not the footballer I've heard so many say he is. Maybe better on the other flank or coming off the bench but right now I just find him completely frustrating.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on December 26, 2018, 05:27:40 PM
I'm still struggling to see what he brings to the party other than a couple of circus tricks. He's strong and powerful but not the footballer I've heard so many say he is. Maybe better on the other flank or coming off the bench but right now I just find him completely frustrating.
Which is pretty much what Everton fans say about him even allowing for his injuries
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: wittonwarrior on December 26, 2018, 10:46:26 PM
The think is he is stil more likely to pull something off than Adomah or the el gaz
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on December 27, 2018, 01:02:30 AM
The think is he is stil more likely to pull something off than Adomah or the el gaz

Over 90 minutes? He's talented but from what I've seen, not a footballer. Circus act? Absolutely. If ever there was a footballer where the phrase, 'Shit or get off the pot' counted so much, he is that player. I'm not blaming his effort, I just don't think he's a £2.5m player, never mind a £25m player.

Snoddy he ain't but with his talent he could be so much more. Looks like a talent that missed or dismissed the training. I wish him the best but for me he's another passenger. All fart, no shit.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 27, 2018, 01:12:10 AM
He's frustrating but he contributes loads. His pass to Hutton in the build up to the goal was excellent. Pretty much every game he's played he has been involved in either creating chances or being on the end of them. But i've always loved unpredictable wingers, you know a lot of the time it won't come off but every time they get the ball you wonder if it's going to be one of those moments of brilliance you'll never forget.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Drummond on December 27, 2018, 02:32:40 AM
He's frustrating but he contributes loads. His pass to Hutton in the build up to the goal was excellent. Pretty much every game he's played he has been involved in either creating chances or being on the end of them. But i've always loved unpredictable wingers, you know a lot of the time it won't come off but every time they get the ball you wonder if it's going to be one of those moments of brilliance you'll never forget.

Ah, Tony Daley...
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: XXVilla on December 27, 2018, 09:09:05 AM
The think is he is stil more likely to pull something off than Adomah or the el gaz

Over 90 minutes? He's talented but from what I've seen, not a footballer. Circus act? Absolutely. If ever there was a footballer where the phrase, 'Shit or get off the pot' counted so much, he is that player. I'm not blaming his effort, I just don't think he's a £2.5m player, never mind a £25m player.

Snoddy he ain't but with his talent he could be so much more. Looks like a talent that missed or dismissed the training. I wish him the best but for me he's another passenger. All fart, no shit.

Apart from all those goals he’s set up...
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Dazvillain on December 27, 2018, 09:13:35 AM
When fit I feel that he and Albert will get the most game time as they’ve reacted far better to Dean’s style out of the 4 wingers we’re using and do the most tracking back and stay at far post to rescue wasted crosses from the opposite side.
Thoughts ?
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Dave P on December 27, 2018, 10:01:38 AM
I agree. They seem to have a genuine rapport too. El Ghazi is probably a better player but is far more inconsistent. 1 and a half good games and he thinks he’s Ronaldo.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Clampy on December 27, 2018, 10:08:53 AM
I agree. They seem to have a genuine rapport too. El Ghazi is probably a better player but is far more inconsistent. 1 and a half good games and he thinks he’s Ronaldo.

Some fans compared him to Ronaldo. I don't think he did.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: themossman on December 27, 2018, 10:55:45 AM
To be fair, I thought he was Ronaldo after the boro game.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on December 27, 2018, 04:51:13 PM
The think is he is stil more likely to pull something off than Adomah or the el gaz

Over 90 minutes? He's talented but from what I've seen, not a footballer. Circus act? Absolutely. If ever there was a footballer where the phrase, 'Shit or get off the pot' counted so much, he is that player. I'm not blaming his effort, I just don't think he's a £2.5m player, never mind a £25m player.

Snoddy he ain't but with his talent he could be so much more. Looks like a talent that missed or dismissed the training. I wish him the best but for me he's another passenger. All fart, no shit.

Apart from all those goals he’s set up...

Four. A total he shares with Elmo. Same number of goals too (2).

I look forward to him proving me wrong during the rest of his time with us. As PWS will testify, as soon as I have a go at a player, they score. Hattrick at Preston? Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: SoccerHQ on December 27, 2018, 05:21:40 PM
I think Bolasie has done alright since he properly came into our 11.

The issue is getting him the ball quickly enough to make an impact as off it he's a passenger and this was a problem v Leeds.

Stoke doubled up on him and he struggled to make an impression. As soon as Pieters went down he gets space and hit a brilliant cross for Kodjia goal.

I'd like to see Adomah on one side and Bolasie the other.

We know Albert is very disciplined so he can track back and he'll get his crosses in so that should give a bit more licence for a maverick like Bolasie to be more of a free spirit.

El Ghazi flatters to deceive. He's back to mediocre level.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Matt Collins on December 27, 2018, 05:22:55 PM
With Jack out of the side it's far easier for opponents to set up to stop our wingers
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 27, 2018, 05:47:46 PM
Off the top of my head I can think of 8 goals we've scored because of him, on top of the 2g/4a mentioned, he's won a penalty and the pass to Hutton yesterday. Considering he still hasn't played 8 full games minutes wise for us, that not too shabby.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Toronto Villa on December 27, 2018, 06:39:36 PM
He’s unpredictability is brilliant. Defenders don’t have a clue what he’s capable of. Same with El Ghazi. I know it doesn’t always work out and it’s fantastic when it does. I love quick, strong and trick wingers. It ain’t Villa without wing play.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: PaulWinch again on December 27, 2018, 06:51:22 PM
I think he’s very useful, he does silly stuff sometimes but his enigmatic play is a big asset.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Matt Collins on December 27, 2018, 08:41:20 PM
Off the top of my head I can think of 8 goals we've scored because of him, on top of the 2g/4a mentioned, he's won a penalty and the pass to Hutton yesterday. Considering he still hasn't played 8 full games minutes wise for us, that not too shabby.

I saw a stay earlier where he was averaging an assist every other game. One of the best in the league
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Lastfootstamper on December 27, 2018, 08:54:24 PM
Assists don't tell it all, they only get counted if the ball ends up in the net.

It was a thing of beauty he was involved in yesterday. I'm luvvin 'im. As alluded to in that report put up in the Tactics thread, I like my wingers wingery, not simply little more than cover for the fullback.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Richard E on December 27, 2018, 09:00:30 PM
If you didn’t get excited by that amazing bit of skill he produced in the second half against Leeds then there’s no point following football.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: XXVilla on December 27, 2018, 10:07:43 PM
Off the top of my head I can think of 8 goals we've scored because of him, on top of the 2g/4a mentioned, he's won a penalty and the pass to Hutton yesterday. Considering he still hasn't played 8 full games minutes wise for us, that not too shabby.

I saw a stay earlier where he was averaging an assist every other game. One of the best in the league

Exactly
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: TheMalandro on December 27, 2018, 10:10:20 PM
If you didn’t get excited by that amazing bit of skill he produced in the second half against Leeds then there’s no point following football.

That’s about it.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: brian green on December 27, 2018, 10:20:50 PM
That wizardry against Leeds is the latest addition to my Scrapbook of Villa Magic Moments on the next page to Jack Grealish making a Sunderland defender fall on his arse without moving a muscle and Christian Benteke jumping higher than the crossbar to score against the same opposition.  The photo of CB hangs on my bedroom wall where he is leaping so high the head of Andy Weimann (also leaping) is level with CB's waist.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: wittonwarrior on December 30, 2018, 08:18:09 AM
So poor yesterday it’s as if it was bolasie v Preston and if Preston got the better of him he would simply give up.  He’s not a team player and that’s sad because he can contribute when he’s on it
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Matt Collins on December 30, 2018, 08:33:01 AM
Needs a rest maybe?
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: mr underhill on December 30, 2018, 09:45:52 AM
Whatever we are paying Bolaise it's too much in my opinion. I know many others will disagree but to me he's just not worth the money.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Clampy on December 30, 2018, 10:03:41 AM
I wouldnt have taken him off yesterday. I'd have switched him to the right and played Adomah on the left although that said, El Gahzi looked better towards the end of the game.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: olaftab on January 19, 2019, 10:44:54 PM
A serious question. Just as clubs can recall players can loaned to clubs send players back?
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Newby on January 19, 2019, 11:03:23 PM
A serious question. Just as clubs can recall players can loaned to clubs send players back?

I am guessing it would be agreed in the contract.  One would also imagine the loan fee cannot possibly add up to his enormous salary if there are any financial penalties in sending him back.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: tony scott on January 19, 2019, 11:08:34 PM
I think Everton will be pleased now he’s starting games .I think if management say promotion isn’t important this season , some players will only go through the motions.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: XXVilla on January 19, 2019, 11:14:36 PM
He’d be a great keepie-uppie champion
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: frank black on January 20, 2019, 09:06:08 AM
I thought we’d resigned Nzogbia
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: sickbeggar on January 20, 2019, 09:13:15 AM
Not the player he was before the injury sadly. He was out for over year and at 29, well Everton realised it  and now we are.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: aj2k77 on January 20, 2019, 09:59:56 AM
Has the swagger of couldn't really give a fuckness about him. If possible send him back, save on the enormous wages and learn the lesson(again) of buying/loaning players who haven't done fuck all for a while.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Fasth56 on January 20, 2019, 10:03:21 AM
Not the player he was before the injury sadly. He was out for over year and at 29, well Everton realised it  and now we are.

Having accepted that he may not be the footballer he was before his injury, that does not excuse his couldn't give a shit performance that he put in yesterday. Compare him to Snodgrass, Bolasie is younger, probably still faster, technically more adept but lacks the desire Snodgrass had.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Clampy on January 20, 2019, 10:04:12 AM
I still think he's being played on the wrong side but he was a bit naff yesterday.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: aj2k77 on January 20, 2019, 10:04:54 AM
Snodgrass is head and shoulders above this clown. A real leader as well, would make a great captain, not a paper one like we currently have.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Border villan on January 20, 2019, 11:50:24 AM
I still think he's being played on the wrong side but he was a bit naff yesterday.
Agreed, we would have been better off if he had played on the Hull side.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: VinnieChase84 on January 20, 2019, 11:54:43 AM
Can’t believe we’re paying £70k a week for this man. I’d 100% return him now and just give Green/El Ghazi the wing slots until the summer. (We can’t send him back though unfortunately) His lack of work rate is a major reason we being exposed defensively too
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: CT on January 20, 2019, 11:57:38 AM
I can take the inconsistencies of a speedy, skilful winger all day.

I just can't accept the couldn't give a shit attitude. Yet another player we pay obscene wages to who is completely mugging us off.

I'd happily send him back to Everton and let Green play every game from now until the end of the season. Then DS can judge if he's good enough or whether he needs to buy a replacement in the Summer.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Pete3206 on January 20, 2019, 12:42:39 PM
I thought this bloke was great a few weeks ago, but he looks like he can't be arsed and he's getting worse by the game.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: wittonwarrior on January 20, 2019, 01:12:18 PM
Bolasie can unsign on loan
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on January 20, 2019, 03:50:46 PM


That bloke will NEVER play top flight football again. Not a chance in hell. He's got China or American written all over him.

Seems like a nice bloke, but he just can't do it anymore
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: eamonn on January 20, 2019, 04:32:53 PM
Does he seem like a nice bloke?

If we've given up on promotion, which I don't think is a bad thing considering the rebuild required regardless of what division we're in, I'd consider how much out of pocket we'd be to give-up on our terms with Everton and if it's not material, send him back so we can get our own players up to speed for next season.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on January 20, 2019, 04:37:45 PM
Can we send him back this month?
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: wittonwarrior on January 20, 2019, 08:50:22 PM
Problem is Deano keeps picking him it’s unbeliveable
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: mr underhill on January 21, 2019, 11:01:23 AM
He's a steaming pile of shit and needs to be sent back if at all possible. Personifies everything that was rotten about Bruce's recruitment policy.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on January 21, 2019, 02:33:17 PM
Is he still here? Perhaps Everton are resisting his return - can't blame them
Unfortunately the epitome of the attitude of some young highly paid players who really are only in it for the riches .....it's just a job after all:(
 I  was hoping he would be keen to show his abilities after recovering from a bad injury - how do you motivate a young millionaire footballer ?? Performance related pay might be a start but I am sure the agents  wouldn't be up for such a wage structure
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: VILLA MOLE on January 21, 2019, 02:45:29 PM
Is he still here? Perhaps Everton are resisting his return - can't blame them
Unfortunately the epitome of the attitude of some young highly paid players who really are only in it for the riches .....it's just a job after all:(
 I  was hoping he would be keen to show his abilities after recovering from a bad injury - how do you motivate a young millionaire footballer ?? Performance related pay might be a start but I am sure the agents  wouldn't be up for such a wage structure




seems ok for harry kane
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on January 21, 2019, 02:57:47 PM
Is he still here? Perhaps Everton are resisting his return - can't blame them
Unfortunately the epitome of the attitude of some young highly paid players who really are only in it for the riches .....it's just a job after all:(
 I  was hoping he would be keen to show his abilities after recovering from a bad injury - how do you motivate a young millionaire footballer ?? Performance related pay might be a start but I am sure the agents  wouldn't be up for such a wage structure




seems ok for harry kane
it's down to the individuals` attitude I guess
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on January 21, 2019, 03:23:45 PM
Does he seem like a nice bloke?

I had a brief exchange with him outside the ground when he first arrived and he seemed nice enough to me. Had time for all the kids wanting his autograph/photo as well. Full of smiles
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: badminton on January 21, 2019, 03:55:03 PM
He's been sent back to Everton.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Chinchilla Bathhouse on January 21, 2019, 03:56:22 PM
Where have you heard that?
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Dave P on January 21, 2019, 03:56:46 PM
He's been sent back to Everton.

Wow! Think that is the correct decision overall.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: garyshawsknee on January 21, 2019, 03:57:19 PM
About time. After a good start he's been awful of late. Too much money for no reward. Be good to give Green some minutes.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: badminton on January 21, 2019, 03:59:28 PM
Where have you heard that?
John Percy at the Telegraph has it.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Dave P on January 21, 2019, 04:00:34 PM
If this has been on the cards, then it seems even more bizarre playing him the past few weeks.  Unless Saturday was the final straw?
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 21, 2019, 04:00:53 PM
Seems it's true, folks. That Smith bloke doesn't hang around.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: kieron on January 21, 2019, 04:01:13 PM
Well done, Deano. Sets the absolute right example to the rest of them.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: garyshawsknee on January 21, 2019, 04:02:24 PM
Is this to free up another loan move ?
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Dazvillain on January 21, 2019, 04:02:49 PM
AVFC Official have tweeted it now too
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Des Little on January 21, 2019, 04:05:03 PM
Correct decision
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Dazvillain on January 21, 2019, 04:05:35 PM
Is this to free up another loan move ?
Young kid from Chelsea ? Makes Andre’s return more sense now and as DS said last week, he doesn’t like loans as we are doing the coaching work to do other clubs work for them.
Moiera next I wonder ?
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Smoke on January 21, 2019, 04:06:35 PM
I think He and Deano clashed from the very start.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Damo70 on January 21, 2019, 04:06:44 PM
Is this to free up another loan move ?

You would have to presume so otherwise we might as well have kept him.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Chinchilla Bathhouse on January 21, 2019, 04:08:12 PM
Shame it didn't work out, he really should have been an asset but his attitude in the last month has been appalling.  If that's been rubbing off and causing friction then Smith's absolutely right to send him packing.  I don't think he'll be missed.  We can certainly use that money better.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Dazvillain on January 21, 2019, 04:08:38 PM
Have a read of the first couple of pages of this thread from us fickle AV fans, gut wrenching !🤣🤣
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Chinchilla Bathhouse on January 21, 2019, 04:10:01 PM
Is this to free up another loan move ?
Young kid from Chelsea ?

Just read that the Chelsea kid's gone to Ostersunds (if you mean Coklett).
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: eamonn on January 21, 2019, 04:15:03 PM
Only PWS seemed to defend him to the last but I think this is for the best.
Any chance we can bring Albrighton home now?
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: kieron on January 21, 2019, 04:15:37 PM
Looks like he wanted out, rather than us sending him back.


https://twitter.com/Everton/status/1087379335428886531

"↪️ | Yannick Bolasie has returned to Everton Football Club today after he exercised an option in his loan agreement with Aston Villa."
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: West Derby Villan on January 21, 2019, 04:16:05 PM
Have a read of the first couple of pages of this thread from us fickle AV fans, gut wrenching !🤣🤣

Unfortunately his enthusiasm at the start had completely disappeared by Saturday, so best all round to return to Everton. Bring someone in that wants to play
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Three Spires Villa on January 21, 2019, 04:16:18 PM
Liverpool Echo are saying that he wanted to leave , and he triggered a clause to leave
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 21, 2019, 04:18:23 PM
Looks like he wanted out, rather than us sending him back.


https://twitter.com/Everton/status/1087379335428886531

"↪️ | Yannick Bolasie has returned to Everton Football Club today after he exercised an option in his loan agreement with Aston Villa."

Their supporters sound delighted.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Drummond on January 21, 2019, 04:19:06 PM
Only PWS seemed to defend him to the last but I think this is for the best.
Any chance we can bring Albrighton home now?

The one that just signed an extension to his Leicester deal?
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: papa lazarou on January 21, 2019, 04:19:24 PM
Any chance we can bring Albrighton home now?

Unlikely as he signed a new deal with Leicester last week.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: PaulWinch again on January 21, 2019, 04:20:42 PM
That’s interesting, wonder why he wanted out.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: eamonn on January 21, 2019, 04:21:02 PM
I was being purposefully wishful.

If Bolasie has made the decision that must mean we're off the hook for any early-termination fee to Everton.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: paul_e on January 21, 2019, 04:22:04 PM
I stand by my comments from the first few pages (and on the speculation thread) he's just not consistent enough at any part of the game to be worth building your attack around, he's great as a wildcard to get something from nothing every now and then but you just don't get promoted on the back of players like that. What I said on the Hourihane thread holds true here as well, to see past his flaws his positives need to be better than 2 goals and 4 assists in 21 games.

I don't dislike him and I hope he does well wherever he ends up next but he's just not what we needed at all and Bruce sending Green on loan to get him in whilst having so many other problems in the squad is a big part of why Smith is our manager now.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Ads on January 21, 2019, 04:25:02 PM
Well I guess we're saving a bundle on wages now. Whether we were paying half or all of it, either way it was a lot.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: PeterWithe on January 21, 2019, 04:26:21 PM
He didn’t seem to have the ability or temperament to play that pressing game, Tammy was obviously unimpressed on Saturday that he wasn’t being helped.

When he was good he was very, very good but when he was bad he was wicked. He should have ripped the league up. He didn’t.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: brian green on January 21, 2019, 04:28:55 PM
Everton are welcome to him.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: itmustbe_it is! on January 21, 2019, 04:29:01 PM
That’s interesting, wonder why he wanted out.

I think he's just a lazy b***ard
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Chris_Jephcott on January 21, 2019, 04:30:26 PM
I think the club knew about this for a while - hence why Green was recalled?
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: footyskillz on January 21, 2019, 04:34:25 PM
I think the club knew about this for a while - hence why Green was recalled?

Yes seems likely Green for Bolasie.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: PeterWithe on January 21, 2019, 04:34:55 PM
I think the club knew about this for a while - hence why Green was recalled?

Not so sure about that, if he indicated he was off I’d doubt he would have started on Saturday.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Ads on January 21, 2019, 04:35:15 PM
Why play him against Hull then where he could easily be injured?

Perhaps the reaction is more short term, whether it's us or him that's exercised the option.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Dazvillain on January 21, 2019, 04:35:49 PM
Evertonians sarcasm in plentiful supply on twitter in response to him triggering a clause to return.... they ain’t happy 🤣🤣
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: SheffieldVillain on January 21, 2019, 04:39:05 PM
Says in the article he wants to force his way into the Everton first team. That's a first team with Walcott and Richarlison among others as attacking options. Good luck with that Yannick.

He should have blown this league apart but clearly for the last two or three weeks at least something was up. I wonder whether this was always his plan from the start - get fit, go back. Why have a break clause otherwise?
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Dazvillain on January 21, 2019, 04:39:30 PM
Liverpool Echo are saying that he wanted to leave , and he triggered a clause to leave

Any insights into what the clause was ?
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: SheffieldVillain on January 21, 2019, 04:40:13 PM
Liverpool Echo are saying that he wanted to leave , and he triggered a clause to leave

Any insights into what the clause was ?

That he could leave in January if he wanted?
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: footyskillz on January 21, 2019, 04:40:34 PM
I think Bolasie leaving is a statement in one way or another

.
Depending where Bolasie ends up in this window

If had an offer from premier league or abroad at higher level .
Or maybe something around playing minutes either the first half season hasn't met required matches he can leave ?
Or he's been told he won't make number of matches remaining so thought oh I'll go
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Ads on January 21, 2019, 04:40:55 PM
Says in the article he wants to force his way into the Everton first team. That's a first team with Walcott and Richarlison among others as attacking options. Good luck with that Yannick.

He should have blown this league apart but clearly for the last two or three weeks at least something was up. I wonder whether this was always his plan from the start - get fit, go back. Why have a break clause otherwise?

You could well be onto something there. Mid-Nobember to Mid-December we had a real player. Thereafter not so much.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Des Little on January 21, 2019, 04:42:14 PM
He'll end up exactly where he was previously.  Going shopping in Liverpool every Saturday afternoon.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: cdbullyweefan on January 21, 2019, 04:42:46 PM
I haven't seen much of him this season, but Everton fans don't seem hugely impressed by Walcott. Wouldn't be amazed if Yannick starts for them.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: footyskillz on January 21, 2019, 04:44:30 PM
Lookman is sensation young player and they have Brazilian called Bernard.

Those 2 are ahead of him and Walcott who he would be behind and Richarlison when he's not up front
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Ads on January 21, 2019, 04:45:00 PM
Mate who sits next to me is an Evertonian and he doesn't rate him at all and isn't impressed with the news.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Jon Crofts on January 21, 2019, 04:46:58 PM
Hopefully Dean has sent him off with a packet of mince.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Clampy on January 21, 2019, 04:47:45 PM
I didn't think he was that bad. Some of his first time crosses from the right were very good but if he wanted out or Smithy wanted to get rid, then so be it. I am surprised by it though.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: frank black on January 21, 2019, 04:48:35 PM
Yes! Get in
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: manic-road on January 21, 2019, 04:52:48 PM
I think He and Deano clashed from the very start.

According to who?
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Border villan on January 21, 2019, 04:55:50 PM
Good riddance.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: exigo on January 21, 2019, 04:56:36 PM
Looked great coming on in the 70th minute. Looked crap when in the starting line up.
Absolutely no loss at all, especially on ridiculous wages.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: TheMalandro on January 21, 2019, 05:00:53 PM
Good news.

He’s not justified the huge wages.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: frank black on January 21, 2019, 05:05:29 PM
A very nice chunk of wages to spend on a good team player.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 21, 2019, 05:06:44 PM
Only PWS seemed to defend him to the last but I think this is for the best.
Any chance we can bring Albrighton home now?

Not really. Pretty sure the last positive thing I said about him was a month ago when he was still contributing, he's been poor since.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: frank black on January 21, 2019, 05:12:01 PM
I bet Everton are impressed by having his £75,000 back on the books and no place in the team for him. Going by the reaction of their fans he’s not going to get a hero’s welcome by them either. I can imagine being pulled up for his lack of work ethic made him decide to go back.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 21, 2019, 05:17:25 PM
There can't be many players that the fitter they got the worse they looked. He went from a real threat off the bench when half fit to pretty much a waste of a shirt when fit enough to start. Quite an achievement.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: Dave P on January 21, 2019, 05:18:10 PM
Thanks for the late equalizer against Preston and about 5 good crosses and...err.. that's about it.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: LukeJames on January 21, 2019, 05:23:33 PM
There can't be many players that the fitter they got the worse they looked. He went from a real threat off the bench when half fit to pretty much a waste of a shirt when fit enough to start. Quite an achievement.

Pretty much sums it up.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: mr underhill on January 21, 2019, 05:36:00 PM
Let's hope that is the last time we get mugged off by PL players like Bolaise.  We have been so much better off  spending his salary on a couple of defenders, but Bruce fucked up royally.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: The Edge on January 21, 2019, 05:36:51 PM
He's a steaming pile of shit and needs to be sent back if at all possible. Personifies everything that was rotten about Bruce's recruitment policy.
Nail. Head. Hit.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: ChicagoLion on January 21, 2019, 05:44:01 PM
The show pony’s show pony.
Immense talent but complete waste of space, I think he has issues.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Signed on Loan
Post by: Smoke on January 21, 2019, 05:46:44 PM
I think He and Deano clashed from the very start.

According to who?

According to me, hence. "I think"


I recall deano putting the boot in early on in his reign here. Bolasie came on as a sub then was dropped for the next game. I remember in an interview deano saying something like I've had a chat with him about the level of performance I expect from him.

Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: Herman on January 21, 2019, 05:47:22 PM
I'd assume that the 'It was triggered by the player' is a mechanism to allow him to save face. Sounds more positive than, he was f'd off for being consistently half arsed.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on January 21, 2019, 05:49:37 PM


100% wish him well, but frankly this hasn't bothered me one jot

He can't perform for more than 25 minutes a match and even then he's hit and miss

Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on January 21, 2019, 05:53:22 PM
Maybe this is why we have been so crap the last few weeks - bad egg in the camp?
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: Villafirst on January 21, 2019, 05:58:02 PM
A poor decision to sign him when clearly not match fit. He was very erratic and certainly didn't justify that ridiculous salary. Which idiot signed-off this deal at the club??
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on January 21, 2019, 06:00:36 PM
I honestly don't care who terminated it.  It is the correct decision.  £75k a week for virtually nothing for well over a month.  Andre Green is probably his replacement.  Good.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: nrg72 on January 21, 2019, 06:01:39 PM
Apart from a couple of goals and a couple of nice turns he has offered next to nothing. Good that he is going back. More pitch time for Green.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: CT Villan on January 21, 2019, 06:04:49 PM
Not sad to lose him at all. Very much a Bruce-type player who can produce a moment of individual brilliance and do nothing for the rest of the game.

He is not the future we are planning for.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: CJ on January 21, 2019, 06:18:08 PM
Obviously Deano read my post match comments on Saturday!

Took ages to get fit, looked threatening as an impact sub but useless as a starter, and on Saturday he just didn't look interested.  Don't wish him any ill-will but his wages can be put to much better use now
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: Gareth on January 21, 2019, 06:19:51 PM
It matters not who decided he went back the main thing is that AVFC aren’t shelling out 70k a week on a passenger.

My guess would be that his lack of work rate, diabolical positional sense & very sporadic contributions in attacking areas have always had him & Dean at loggerheads & getting the hook (fully deservedly) on Saturday wounded the ego enough to trigger the going home discussion.

Let’s please make this the last overpaid Jonny Average who has achieved naff all mugging us off for huge wages without giving back.

Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: TopDeck113 on January 21, 2019, 06:21:51 PM
Good news. 
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: PaulWinch again on January 21, 2019, 06:23:25 PM
Looked good to start and tailed off. That said you could level that at a lot of players.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: Fasth56 on January 21, 2019, 06:23:30 PM
He probably wanted to go back after reading the comments on here. Luckily for him he lasted until the 58th minute on Saturday before being hooked, that I think was 53 minutes too late. Given his lack of effort over the last few games it isn't surprising that we haven't got the results. We start with 10 men at best and given the performance of some of the others 9 or 8 sometimes.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: Richard E on January 21, 2019, 06:29:47 PM
He put the ball out of play after literally 5 seconds on Saturday. After that appalling quarter-arsed performance he can do one, quite frankly.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: JUAN PABLO on January 21, 2019, 06:30:50 PM
some good news

one small reason why loans are alright sometimes as we are not stuck with like a Richards or Nzogbia
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: Newby on January 21, 2019, 06:33:05 PM
That'll be a loan space freed up then!  Waste of space, waste of money, won't get into the Everton side either.  300k a month!! Waster and I don't care who finished with who, it's a great decision. 
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: Lastfootstamper on January 21, 2019, 06:33:43 PM
The show pony’s show pony.
Immense talent but complete waste of space, I think he has issues.

The roll call of clubs on his cv perhaps suggest otherwise. Plymouth Argyle, Barnet, Bristol City doesn't suggest world beater.

Although I'm with PWS a bit, he was exciting. Just not often enough.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: pooligan on January 21, 2019, 06:59:34 PM
After his half arsed performance at Wigan and against Hull am glad to see the back of him to be honest .The Everton fans i talk to dont think much of him either.Hopefully the money we save on him will help bring in a couple of new players
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: SoccerHQ on January 21, 2019, 07:00:16 PM
This has surprised me although I imagine finances have also played a part and we can get better value from cheaper loan or permanent signing.

Would've sent El Ghazi back instead personally.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: wozwebs on January 21, 2019, 07:00:19 PM
thatcherlover on twitter who has been accurate before on signings etc but is staring to become a DS out man has stated that Elphick, Steer and Green going out on loan was to free up the cash for Bolasie's wages so back to square one really now he's gone and they are all back so £70k pw isn't really back in the kitty?
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: LukeJames on January 21, 2019, 07:06:35 PM
Not a chance that those 3 are on dnywhere near 70k between them. I doubt its even half of that.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: PaulWinch again on January 21, 2019, 07:08:24 PM
thatcherlover on twitter who has been accurate before on signings etc but is staring to become a DS out man has stated that Elphick, Steer and Green going out on loan was to free up the cash for Bolasie's wages so back to square one really now he's gone and they are all back so £70k pw isn't really back in the kitty?

That would seem to be overly coincidental to me.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: oldham_villa on January 21, 2019, 07:09:48 PM
Dare i say, "God is Great!"
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: Steve kirk on January 21, 2019, 07:11:14 PM
Glad he's gone, I got sucked in by him at the start but quickly realised we were paying way to much for loads of step overs and the occasional trick, looks like Andre Green was brought back in readiness for Bolasie leaving, at least Andre gives a shit.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: Villafirst on January 21, 2019, 07:16:19 PM
Bolasie has lost a yard of pace, no where near the player he was at Palace. He simply can't cut it anymore - not even in the Championship let alone the Premier League!
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: JUAN PABLO on January 21, 2019, 07:24:40 PM
Frees up money for Cahill
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: eamonn on January 21, 2019, 07:27:18 PM
Not a chance that those 3 are on dnywhere near 70k between them. I doubt its even half of that.

Maybe we were only ever paying half of Bolasie's wages in which case £35k a week for those three sounds plausible.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: SoccerHQ on January 21, 2019, 07:30:46 PM
Not a chance that those 3 are on dnywhere near 70k between them. I doubt its even half of that.

Maybe we were only ever paying half of Bolasie's wages in which case £35k a week for those three sounds plausible.

Think I read Elphick was on 30k when he joined. Didn't Green get a new contract a while back although doubt he'll be on a huge amount, same for Steer.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: Risso on January 21, 2019, 07:32:16 PM
The nice bit of skill he did against Leeds where he skinned two of their players summed him up perfectly.  Capable of beating a man or two, but not capable often enough to do something productive with the ball once he had.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: brontebilly on January 21, 2019, 07:44:49 PM
Disastrous signing from Bruce. We certainly needed pace at the top of the pitch but Bolasie was miles behind in terms of fitness from day one. Did he even complete 90 mins once for us? There were flashes of quality at times, he had a decent game v West Brom but little or nothing since. Never saw anything from him to suggest he was keen to get his career back on track, polar opposite of Snodgrass.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: TheMalandro on January 21, 2019, 07:49:11 PM

Bolasie was just another aimless punt by a useless manager.

For what it’s worth, Yannick seems like a decent chap. Not what Villa need at all, however.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: TheMalandro on January 21, 2019, 07:52:33 PM
The feeling on the Everton boards.


(https://i.ibb.co/MNDmd8J/07157-E49-C6-FF-4-F2-F-9-E80-DF2-E2-AADBB46.png) (https://ibb.co/MNDmd8J)
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: gpbarr on January 21, 2019, 08:05:05 PM
Good riddance - exactly the sort of player that isn't going to help Dean take us forward. The housekeeping has begun
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: Nunkin1965 on January 21, 2019, 08:11:52 PM
Good riddance - exactly the sort of player that isn't going to help Dean take us forward. The housekeeping has begun

Agree.
Never a Dean Smith player in a million years.
If Bruce was still here he'd still be a Villa player until May.

Can we stop with the individual marquee signings and go about building a team unit?
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: postal on January 21, 2019, 08:16:05 PM
Didnt realise that Villa are a rehabilitation centre. Bye-bye Bolasie
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: Matt C on January 21, 2019, 08:24:10 PM
Looks like we’re starting to clean house.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: footyskillz on January 21, 2019, 09:04:44 PM
People aren't going to generally moan about this because of his lack of produce overall.

Maybe Bolasie was told he would only be used sparingly and that causes him to leave .
I also aware Smith isn't one for all the crossing from wingers which what the squad was set up for and is a strength.

It's also smells of cost cutting.

Bruce signed Bolasie for a variety of reasons.
I expect he's left for a variety of reasons.

He's been replaced by Andre Green which is decent in many many ways wise and I think Greeny could even play up front.

Anyway good luck to him appreciate his footyskillz & outrageous nutmegs .

Goodbye Yannick
21 appearances.
Had 9 starts 3 assists
12 times as sub. Scored 2 goals 1 assist

In those 21 appearances had 25 shots 7 on target.



Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: KevinGage on January 21, 2019, 09:07:14 PM
Hmm.

He hasn't been too clever the last few games, but then not many of our lot have post Grealish injury.

A feature of our play when we looked lively round Nov-Dec was our wide options and how we could bring a player like Bolasie off the bench to keep up the pressure.

I won't argue that he's been value for money if we were forking out anywhere close to £75k per week. But seeing as Middlesborough were the other side in for him at the time, I'm not sure that figure is accurate.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: footyskillz on January 21, 2019, 09:12:08 PM
The facts are Villa were maybe the only club he would play for at this level and how we could also afford.

Short term move but understandable at the time .

Bruce would have him in at Wednesday I'm sure but they couldn't afford and he wouldn't go

I like Bruce to take Elmo off us and even Albert providing have a decent replacement or idea to play without Albert loss making too much impact
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: OCD on January 21, 2019, 09:21:29 PM
Bet he goes on loan to Palace for the rest of the season.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: Ads on January 21, 2019, 09:31:43 PM
thatcherlover on twitter who has been accurate before on signings etc but is staring to become a DS out man has stated that Elphick, Steer and Green going out on loan was to free up the cash for Bolasie's wages so back to square one really now he's gone and they are all back so £70k pw isn't really back in the kitty?

ThatcherLover make a shit up.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: pooligan on January 21, 2019, 09:37:40 PM
" We can't even give him away" is the headlines in this evenings Liverpool Echo from a couple of Everton fans
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: sickbeggar on January 21, 2019, 09:38:10 PM
One of 'em init. If he'd worked out and we were up the top of the league then you'd still be a bit dubious about signing him permanently if we went went up because of his age and his cost. As it is, he's not worked out, he's not a DS signing and you feel the money on wages could go somewhere better. If its means we strengthen elsewhere then i don't see any downside.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: Villa75 on January 21, 2019, 09:44:38 PM
I'd assume that the 'It was triggered by the player' is a mechanism to allow him to save face. Sounds more positive than, he was f'd off for being consistently half arsed.

Or...It was triggered by the player?

Not as exciting or as positive for us as, 'he was a bad egg' or 'finally Villa are getting it right', admittedly.

Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: brontebilly on January 21, 2019, 09:46:57 PM
The facts are Villa were maybe the only club he would play for at this level and how we could also afford.

Short term move but understandable at the time .

Bruce would have him in at Wednesday I'm sure but they couldn't afford and he wouldn't go

I like Bruce to take Elmo off us and even Albert providing have a decent replacement or idea to play without Albert loss making too much impact

No chance of AA playing for Bruce again after the way he treated him last summer.

Glenn Whelan maybe, former Sheff Wed player...
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: footyskillz on January 21, 2019, 09:49:53 PM
Yeah trigger by the player but may have been told you're not an automatic first choice or you're role will be a bench one perhaps ?

Bolasie does want to get playing again and needs a consistent run to gain back his match playing experience.

Smith didn't feel he's suited to having his re developing here I guess .

Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: footyskillz on January 21, 2019, 09:50:53 PM
The facts are Villa were maybe the only club he would play for at this level and how we could also afford.

Short term move but understandable at the time .

Bruce would have him in at Wednesday I'm sure but they couldn't afford and he wouldn't go

I like Bruce to take Elmo off us and even Albert providing have a decent replacement or idea to play without Albert loss making too much impact

No chance of AA playing for Bruce again after the way he treated him last summer.

Glenn Whelan maybe, former Sheff Wed player...

Good point.give you that on Albert .
I give you Whelan to see  O'Neill at Forest be nice for them both
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: Brassneck on January 21, 2019, 09:54:48 PM
The facts are Villa were maybe the only club he would play for at this level and how we could also afford.

Short term move but understandable at the time .

Bruce would have him in at Wednesday I'm sure but they couldn't afford and he wouldn't go

I like Bruce to take Elmo off us and even Albert providing have a decent replacement or idea to play without Albert loss making too much impact

No chance of AA playing for Bruce again after the way he treated him last summer.

Glenn Whelan maybe, former Sheff Wed player...

Good point.give you that on Albert .
I give you Whelan to see  O'Neill at Forest be nice for them both

Be nice for us as well.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on January 21, 2019, 09:56:02 PM
I think it’s more likely he will end up at Palace again. 
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: sickbeggar on January 21, 2019, 09:56:59 PM
I can't imagine Bruce will be in for whelan. He was a short-term buy to get us up and even he must realise he''s completely shot now.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: RichardBatchelor on January 21, 2019, 10:01:47 PM
Kodjia aside, have we had ONE other successful Francophone player (or manager) in our history? Really strange, seems to be a curse.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: footyskillz on January 21, 2019, 10:05:29 PM
What is a francophone ??
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on January 21, 2019, 10:09:23 PM
francophone
/ˈfraŋkə(ʊ)fəʊn/Submit
adjective
1.
French-speaking.
"a summit of francophone countries"
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: Ads on January 21, 2019, 10:13:04 PM
There was a moment Saturday when he couldn't out run the full back and it did seem like he'd lost a yard.

Funny decision to make and perhaps he'd made it a few weeks ago. On current form, no loss at all.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: Risso on January 21, 2019, 10:14:05 PM
thatcherlover on twitter who has been accurate before on signings etc but is staring to become a DS out man has stated that Elphick, Steer and Green going out on loan was to free up the cash for Bolasie's wages so back to square one really now he's gone and they are all back so £70k pw isn't really back in the kitty?

ThatcherLover make a shit up.

Was just going to say that.  Even in the context of Twitter, he is one massive, bullshitting twat.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: Villa75 on January 21, 2019, 10:15:03 PM
"Yannick Bolasie is returning to Everton after the player exercised an option to return to his parent club," said a Villa statement.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46950239

No need to guess anymore. It's official.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 21, 2019, 10:17:32 PM
Does it really matter?
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: paul_e on January 21, 2019, 10:25:20 PM
What is a francophone ??

French Speaking.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: footyskillz on January 21, 2019, 10:36:11 PM
Ahh thank you
Well I read on Aston Villa  website that hatel Tuanzebe speaks french . Kodjia says that helps and they are buddies
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: Villa75 on January 21, 2019, 10:41:30 PM
Does it really matter?

It was obvious from some of the comments that people were unsure what had happened. So I posted a link for clarity. It saves people making stuff up. It might even be considered helpful in some quarters.

 ;)
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: RichardBatchelor on January 21, 2019, 10:52:02 PM
Ah yes, Tuanzebe’s been decent, you’re right.
Others I can think of: Six, Ginola, Djemba-Djemba, Beye, Makoun, Pires, Gueye, Bolasie, Veretout, Amavi, Ayew, Agathe, Cissokho, Gestede, N’Zogbia, Berson, Sylla (managers Houllier and Garde). Some of them good players but not for us.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 21, 2019, 10:54:36 PM
Does it really matter?

It was obvious from some of the comments that people were unsure what had happened. So I posted a link for clarity. It saves people making stuff up. It might even be considered helpful in some quarters.

 ;)

So no, it doesn't really matter. He's gone, the whys and wherefores aren't really that important unless there's another point you want to be  making.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: ROBBO on January 21, 2019, 10:56:19 PM
I watched Amavi on Fox yesterday looked very comfortable playing left back, I wish we had given him longer.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: cdbullyweefan on January 21, 2019, 11:25:18 PM
John Carew played for Lyon for three years so I'd assume he can speak French.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: cdbullyweefan on January 21, 2019, 11:27:06 PM
Oh, and Benteke.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: olaftab on January 21, 2019, 11:55:27 PM
"Yannick Bolasie is returning to Everton after the player exercised an option to return to his parent club," said a Villa statement.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46950239

No need to guess anymore. It's official.
What is official?
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: Villa75 on January 21, 2019, 11:56:32 PM
Does it really matter?

It was obvious from some of the comments that people were unsure what had happened. So I posted a link for clarity. It saves people making stuff up. It might even be considered helpful in some quarters.

 ;)

So no, it doesn't really matter. He's gone, the whys and wherefores aren't really that important unless there's another point you want to be  making.

Nothing really matters on here. It's one of millions of forums where people chat about stuff whilst they've nothing really interesting or important to do. I

I can run my comments by you first though, if it's a problem?

Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 22, 2019, 12:04:08 AM
Does it really matter?

It was obvious from some of the comments that people were unsure what had happened. So I posted a link for clarity. It saves people making stuff up. It might even be considered helpful in some quarters.

 ;)

So no, it doesn't really matter. He's gone, the whys and wherefores aren't really that important unless there's another point you want to be  making.

Nothing really matters on here. It's one of millions of forums where people chat about stuff whilst they've nothing really interesting or important to do. I

I can run my comments by you first though, if it's a problem?



Do what you like. Just don't get upset if someone disagrees with you.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: Chinchilla Bathhouse on January 22, 2019, 12:14:07 AM
Nothing really matters on here. It's one of millions of forums where people chat about stuff whilst they've nothing really interesting or important to do.

I'll have you know I have plenty of important things to do and I come on here precisely so that I don't have to do them.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: Goldie.7 on January 22, 2019, 12:45:24 AM
Good riddance.

Perfectly summed up.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: stuart445 on January 22, 2019, 01:01:40 AM
I watched Amavi on Fox yesterday looked very comfortable playing left back, I wish we had given him longer.

Didn't we do a deal with him that he stayed with us and if we didn't go up we'd let him go.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: brentastonb6 on January 22, 2019, 01:11:52 AM
Does it really matter?

It was obvious from some of the comments that people were unsure what had happened. So I posted a link for clarity. It saves people making stuff up. It might even be considered helpful in some quarters.

 ;)

So no, it doesn't really matter. He's gone, the whys and wherefores aren't really that important unless there's another point you want to be  making.

Nothing really matters on here. It's one of millions of forums where people chat about stuff whilst they've nothing really interesting or important to do. I

I can run my comments by you first though, if it's a problem?

   
For what it’s worth Villa75 I found it useful as it’s nice sometimes to have a few facts in these discussions and not conjecture 👍
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: KRS on January 22, 2019, 01:29:04 AM
Bag of shite. Good riddance. Return to sender.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: Ian J on January 22, 2019, 07:19:53 AM
Bloody hell Villa75, can there be a thread left where your not winding someone up?

I quite liked this fella at first, he seemed exciting maybe a little unpredictable. He’s certainly become quite stale for somereason and off the pace. This seems for the best.

I’m talking about Bolasie by the way, not Villa75.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: mr underhill on January 22, 2019, 07:38:32 AM
put it this way, I lost a £20 bet that he'd not last a game for us andf I couldn't be happier that he is no longer here. That geezer with the Bagpipes has already received the money
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: eamonn on January 22, 2019, 07:58:40 AM
You nearly won it. He couldn't run properly for his first half dozen appearances without looking like he was shot and when he finally neared full fitness he couldn't be arsed with the donkey work of tracking back.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: aj2k77 on January 22, 2019, 08:32:05 AM
Disaster loan, spent months getting ''match fit'' threw in a few games, then threw in the towel. Rubbish Brucey transfer dealings by numbers again.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: darren woolley on January 22, 2019, 08:47:53 AM
I think getting him off the wage bill will enable us to go out and get two or three player's in place of him instead of paying him that amount of money each week.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: chrisw1 on January 22, 2019, 09:31:37 AM
I think it's relevant who activated it.  If it was activated by us you may think it was part of a wider plan, possibly involving more than just recalling Green.  As it's activated by the player we don't know if Smith is ok with it or left a bit in the lurch with 9 days left in the transfer window.

Personally I thought he flattered to deceive, but if we got to the play off final I would have liked to have him as an option in a one off big game. 

I hope we weren't paying his full wages though, £70k is madness for a Championship club with FFP concerns. 
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: Oscar Arce on January 22, 2019, 09:59:47 AM
According to some reports, he had a clause put in his loan that said he could pack up after Jan 20th, so he texted Villa to inform them that he wouldn't be coming back on Sunday night.
Waste of space, attitude was wrong from the start, good riddance show pony.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: sickbeggar on January 22, 2019, 10:06:04 AM
looks like a case of quit before you're sacked to me. If he heads off on loan elsewhere before the end of the month I stand corrected.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: mattjpa on January 22, 2019, 10:32:22 AM
According to some reports, he had a clause put in his loan that said he could pack up after Jan 20th, so he texted Villa to inform them that he wouldn't be coming back on Sunday night.
Waste of space, attitude was wrong from the start, good riddance show pony.
Howard Hodgeson knows his agent and has confirmed we were in fact picking up his entire wage. Absolutely f'ing criminal waste of money
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: Clark W Griswold on January 22, 2019, 11:35:32 AM
GOOD RIDDANCE YOU USELESS FUCKING YAMPY c***
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: andyh on January 22, 2019, 11:41:40 AM
It’s all a bit strange after he was ‘supposedly’ commenting on Tammy leaving via social media.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: Ketzster on January 22, 2019, 12:41:18 PM
I think it's relevant who activated it.  If it was activated by us you may think it was part of a wider plan

Yes I agree with this. Bolasie activating it gives more cause for concern. From what I saw against Swansea in the cup, away at Wigan and the first half against Hull, it looked like the players had no interest in playing for the manager. Whatever your thoughts on his performances, Bolasie choosing to go back only adds to that impression. It was hardly as though he was sitting on the bench every week
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: gpbarr on January 22, 2019, 12:48:40 PM
I think it's relevant who activated it.  If it was activated by us you may think it was part of a wider plan

Yes I agree with this. Bolasie activating it gives more cause for concern. From what I saw against Swansea in the cup, away at Wigan and the first half against Hull, it looked like the players had no interest in playing for the manager. Whatever your thoughts on his performances, Bolasie choosing to go back only adds to that impression. It was hardly as though he was sitting on the bench every week

If true, then likely because Smith has read them the riot act and many of them have thrown their dummy out of the pram - I said on another thread that this squad has serious character flaws and aside a few, most don’t fit the mould of what you need to succeed - raw talent isn’t enough - so good riddance, they can fuck off too
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: sickbeggar on January 22, 2019, 12:56:53 PM
He has his' brand' to look after. If you're struggling to make the grade in the championship then why the hell would you draw attention to it by staying here for another 6 months? That's the risk for premiership players stepping down on loan, you can end up damaging your value to the club loaning and you're future earnings. It's why we got stuck with loads of deadwood during the Lerner years
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: Villa75 on January 22, 2019, 12:59:48 PM
Some of these comments remind me of my mate, when his wife left him.

 "Yes, she left me. But she only did that because she knew I'd get rid of her one day. Probably. She wasn't good enough for me anyway!"
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: SashasGrandad on January 22, 2019, 01:03:27 PM
Some of these comments remind me of my mate, when his wife left him.

 "Yes, she left me. But she only did that because she knew I'd get rid of her one day. Probably. She wasn't good enough for me anyway!"

She probably kept promising him the earth - but always let him down before the climax.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: Villa75 on January 22, 2019, 01:07:55 PM
Some of these comments remind me of my mate, when his wife left him.

 "Yes, she left me. But she only did that because she knew I'd get rid of her one day. Probably. She wasn't good enough for me anyway!"

She probably kept promising him the earth - but always let him down before the climax.

Unfortunately, it was the other way around. 😂
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: aj2k77 on January 22, 2019, 01:29:59 PM
I think it's relevant who activated it.  If it was activated by us you may think it was part of a wider plan

Yes I agree with this. Bolasie activating it gives more cause for concern. From what I saw against Swansea in the cup, away at Wigan and the first half against Hull, it looked like the players had no interest in playing for the manager. Whatever your thoughts on his performances, Bolasie choosing to go back only adds to that impression. It was hardly as though he was sitting on the bench every week

The players had no interest playing for the manager first half against Hull but then after a half time cuppa they decided they were wrong and should play for him instead. Fuck me, there's some shite spouted here sometimes.

Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: Villa75 on January 22, 2019, 02:47:27 PM
I think it's relevant who activated it.  If it was activated by us you may think it was part of a wider plan

Yes I agree with this. Bolasie activating it gives more cause for concern. From what I saw against Swansea in the cup, away at Wigan and the first half against Hull, it looked like the players had no interest in playing for the manager. Whatever your thoughts on his performances, Bolasie choosing to go back only adds to that impression. It was hardly as though he was sitting on the bench every week

The players had no interest playing for the manager first half against Hull but then after a half time cuppa they decided they were wrong and should play for him instead. Fuck me, there's some shite spouted here sometimes.

We hardly stormed the 2nd half! The first half was so embarrassingly poor that a mediocre 2nd half looked better than it actually was.

They lost a defender to injury just before we scored almost on half time, despite us not being in the game. I would suggest them losing a player, and our late first half goal, probably lifted our players up to the dizzy heights of mediocrity, rather than Smith's half time team talk.

Either way, we shouldn't exaggerate the 2nd half performance above what it was. We had 2 shots on target the whole game. At Home. To Hull.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: Bren'd on January 22, 2019, 03:33:58 PM
As soon as the half started they began pressing and chasing down the opposition, a vast improvement on what went on before.  Therefore, I/we can assume that they were reminded by the manager what was expected of them. They weren't as good as they have been 2nd half but showed that they've not completely gone to shit.  And, Villa looked the more likely winners of the game even taking into account the very good chance Hull had near the end.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: Clampy on January 22, 2019, 03:47:40 PM
The second half was a massive improvement. Anyone who was at the Cup game or Wigan will tell you that. Not good enough overall, but it could have been a lot worse.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: aj2k77 on January 22, 2019, 03:50:22 PM
I think it's relevant who activated it.  If it was activated by us you may think it was part of a wider plan

Yes I agree with this. Bolasie activating it gives more cause for concern. From what I saw against Swansea in the cup, away at Wigan and the first half against Hull, it looked like the players had no interest in playing for the manager. Whatever your thoughts on his performances, Bolasie choosing to go back only adds to that impression. It was hardly as though he was sitting on the bench every week

The players had no interest playing for the manager first half against Hull but then after a half time cuppa they decided they were wrong and should play for him instead. Fuck me, there's some shite spouted here sometimes.

We hardly stormed the 2nd half! The first half was so embarrassingly poor that a mediocre 2nd half looked better than it actually was.

They lost a defender to injury just before we scored almost on half time, despite us not being in the game. I would suggest them losing a player, and our late first half goal, probably lifted our players up to the dizzy heights of mediocrity, rather than Smith's half time team talk.

Either way, we shouldn't exaggerate the 2nd half performance above what it was. We had 2 shots on target the whole game. At Home. To Hull.

You said that he's lost the dressing room, yet somehow we come back from 2-0 down, despite the players not being bothered. How did it happen? Luck? You talk shite.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: Clampy on January 22, 2019, 03:52:41 PM
I think it's relevant who activated it.  If it was activated by us you may think it was part of a wider plan

Yes I agree with this. Bolasie activating it gives more cause for concern. From what I saw against Swansea in the cup, away at Wigan and the first half against Hull, it looked like the players had no interest in playing for the manager. Whatever your thoughts on his performances, Bolasie choosing to go back only adds to that impression. It was hardly as though he was sitting on the bench every week

The players had no interest playing for the manager first half against Hull but then after a half time cuppa they decided they were wrong and should play for him instead. Fuck me, there's some shite spouted here sometimes.

We hardly stormed the 2nd half! The first half was so embarrassingly poor that a mediocre 2nd half looked better than it actually was.

They lost a defender to injury just before we scored almost on half time, despite us not being in the game. I would suggest them losing a player, and our late first half goal, probably lifted our players up to the dizzy heights of mediocrity, rather than Smith's half time team talk.

Either way, we shouldn't exaggerate the 2nd half performance above what it was. We had 2 shots on target the whole game. At Home. To Hull.

You said that he's lost the dressing room, yet somehow we come back from 2-0 down, despite the players not being bothered. How did it happen? Luck? You talk shite.

This. You don't suddenly want to start playing for the manager after 45 minutes of not bothering. Utter nonsense.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: aj2k77 on January 22, 2019, 03:56:02 PM
Is there any reason to believe that the mythical ''losing of the dressing room'' has occurred again, a couple of games after smashing teams? Apart from it being over reactionary nonsense? The bottom line is we are an average team, with too many aged players and loan players in key positions and our best player out injured, it's not rocket science, there's no conspiracy theory needed. Especially one that makes as little sense as players minds chopping and changing from half to half.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: Clark W Griswold on January 22, 2019, 04:21:00 PM
You wonder whether the uncertainty around ins and outs in January effects the mood and level of performance. We went through a similar shit period in Bruce's first season after a decent start, the shit period being from around Xmas to sometime in Feb after which it picked up again. To me, were a team of loanees, past it's, never will be's and not quites, and the squad is still hopelessly unbalanced.

***with the exception of Grealish, McGinn, Kodjia & Chester when played in the right position and hopefully the GK will work out.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: walsall villain on January 22, 2019, 04:44:20 PM
Lost the dressing room? What rubbish. As Mr Agbonlahor of Aston would say ‘some people like to chat shit’. Never mind the shots on goal count, it’s effort, movement, commitment that’s matters, can’t count those so must be invisible to some.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: Ads on January 22, 2019, 04:48:33 PM
We pressed well, weren't quite as incisive ad we had been pre-Stoke, but still created 18 chances and were the better side. It was a lot better and there was effort and endeavour which needs a splash of quality and confidence. Hopefully Reading and Ipswich, with Jack and reinforcements can provide ahead of Sheffield United, Stripey Filth and Brentford.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: ChicagoLion on January 22, 2019, 04:59:45 PM
Please don’t suggest that maybe, bad apples like Yanick Shownoat was having a negative impact on morale.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: Villa75 on January 22, 2019, 09:45:44 PM
I think it's relevant who activated it.  If it was activated by us you may think it was part of a wider plan

Yes I agree with this. Bolasie activating it gives more cause for concern. From what I saw against Swansea in the cup, away at Wigan and the first half against Hull, it looked like the players had no interest in playing for the manager. Whatever your thoughts on his performances, Bolasie choosing to go back only adds to that impression. It was hardly as though he was sitting on the bench every week

The players had no interest playing for the manager first half against Hull but then after a half time cuppa they decided they were wrong and should play for him instead. Fuck me, there's some shite spouted here sometimes.

We hardly stormed the 2nd half! The first half was so embarrassingly poor that a mediocre 2nd half looked better than it actually was.

They lost a defender to injury just before we scored almost on half time, despite us not being in the game. I would suggest them losing a player, and our late first half goal, probably lifted our players up to the dizzy heights of mediocrity, rather than Smith's half time team talk.

Either way, we shouldn't exaggerate the 2nd half performance above what it was. We had 2 shots on target the whole game. At Home. To Hull.

You said that he's lost the dressing room, yet somehow we come back from 2-0 down, despite the players not being bothered. How did it happen? Luck? You talk shite.

Where did I say he's lost the dressing room?
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: Clampy on January 22, 2019, 09:49:50 PM
You said the players had no interest in playing for Smith in the first half on Saturday. Sounds to me like you were suggesting he'd lost the dressing room.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: Villa75 on January 22, 2019, 09:56:05 PM
You said the players had no interest in playing for Smith in the first half on Saturday. Sounds to me like you were suggesting he'd lost the dressing room.

Again. Where did I say that?
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: paul_e on January 22, 2019, 10:00:30 PM
Here?

I thought that's what we've been doing for the last few seasons/managers?

I'd rather get promoted, by book or by crook, gaining millions to help us rebuild and becoming a more attractive proposition to decent players.

Telling a squad they don't need to worry about promotion, at a club expected to be challenging, is rarely going to have them busting a gut. It might even have them thinking, 'why am I here?'

Close enough at least.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: Clampy on January 22, 2019, 10:07:45 PM
You said the players had no interest in playing for Smith in the first half on Saturday. Sounds to me like you were suggesting he'd lost the dressing room.

Again. Where did I say that?

Sorry, I mis-read who had posted it. Bloody quotathons.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: Villa75 on January 22, 2019, 10:14:18 PM
Here?

I thought that's what we've been doing for the last few seasons/managers?

I'd rather get promoted, by book or by crook, gaining millions to help us rebuild and becoming a more attractive proposition to decent players.

Telling a squad they don't need to worry about promotion, at a club expected to be challenging, is rarely going to have them busting a gut. It might even have them thinking, 'why am I here?'

Close enough at least.

Nowhere near.

Also, it's the owners telling all and sundry they don't need to worry about failure, not the manager.

It's not impossible it will have some negative effect on all concerned, including Smith.

I've never been in a job where the owners tell everyone not to worry about failure but, if they had, I can certainly see it would hardly have a motivating effect. Quite the opposite for some.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: LukeJames on January 22, 2019, 10:42:57 PM
When did the owners tell all and sundry that we don't need to worry about promotion?
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: paul_e on January 22, 2019, 11:14:41 PM
Here?

I thought that's what we've been doing for the last few seasons/managers?

I'd rather get promoted, by book or by crook, gaining millions to help us rebuild and becoming a more attractive proposition to decent players.

Telling a squad they don't need to worry about promotion, at a club expected to be challenging, is rarely going to have them busting a gut. It might even have them thinking, 'why am I here?'

Close enough at least.

Nowhere near.

Also, it's the owners telling all and sundry they don't need to worry about failure, not the manager.

It's not impossible it will have some negative effect on all concerned, including Smith.

I've never been in a job where the owners tell everyone not to worry about failure but, if they had, I can certainly see it would hardly have a motivating effect. Quite the opposite for some.

As far as I'm concerned there's not a huge amount between suggesting players are questioning why they're here and saying players don't want to play for the manager, as I said, it's close enough that I'm not surprised someone mistook a comment like that as being yours. I know it's not the manager you're pointing fingers at with it but you suggested that the motivation/morale had gone and that just doesn't stand up to scrutiny, we've just not played very well, there are reasons for it (which probably don't belong on this thread) but a lack of motivation isn't high on that list.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 22, 2019, 11:38:08 PM
When did the owners tell all and sundry that we don't need to worry about promotion?

They didn't. Purslow just said it wasn't imperative promotion was achieved this season and that essentially it was far more importantly we build for a sustainable future. What most took from that is let's invest wisely, don't take short term positions like we have done with a number of the signings and loans we've made often of crazy contracts to secure a fast return to the PL. Instead buy wisely, invest in our academy system and implement a sensible longer term plan for success.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: SoccerHQ on January 23, 2019, 12:21:23 AM
When did the owners tell all and sundry that we don't need to worry about promotion?

They didn't. Purslow just said it wasn't imperative promotion was achieved this season and that essentially it was far more importantly we build for a sustainable future. What most took from that is let's invest wisely, don't take short term positions like we have done with a number of the signings and loans we've made often of crazy contracts to secure a fast return to the PL. Instead buy wisely, invest in our academy system and implement a sensible longer term plan for success.

Hopefully Purslow really isn't bluffing as I pretty much remember Wyness saying the same stuff at some point last season.

The reality is we need to get promoted sooner or later. Not just for club prestige but we will be losing parachute payments soon which has helped us fund  our transfer sprees down here and obviously FFP becomes more of an issue each season we don't go up.

At least a slower transfer window means the team might be developed naturally for once rather than quick fixes all over the 11. One thing they have got right is to lower the average age of the squad but that's more likely to fully happen in the summer.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: footyskillz on January 23, 2019, 12:31:38 AM
I can imagine for health and well being Bolasie  had to go as he was causing Deano upset both on and off the ball with his pressing.

Smithy repeatedly shouted "Yannick attack"

Bolasie thought the usually calm Smith was suffering and did the decent thing and terminated his loan.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: godzvilla on January 23, 2019, 03:59:10 PM
BoLassie gone home !.................................Godzvilla!
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: VILLA MOLE on January 23, 2019, 04:13:32 PM
BoLassie gone home !.................................Godzvilla!


made me snigger
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: Villa Lew on January 23, 2019, 05:12:42 PM
Poor old Everton fans, along with Walcott, they've now got 2 crap wingers on their books.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: Confusious says on January 23, 2019, 06:26:02 PM
Middlesbrough apparently trying to offload some, in order to take Bolasie
now we have got him fitter & given him game time
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: brian green on January 23, 2019, 06:37:20 PM
And a kick up the arse.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: cheltenhamlion on January 23, 2019, 06:48:47 PM
I bet Boro wouldn't be paying the full £70k a week whack if they did get him in like we were. Purslow was very clear at the Trust AGM about clearing dead wood and money hungry shit contracts out. This is just the start.

He did put his cards in but after DS made his role over the next few months clear.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on January 23, 2019, 07:27:33 PM
Without exception every Evertonian I have spoken with is totally underwhelmed at his return to Merseyside - says it all about the player
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: Newby on January 23, 2019, 07:40:29 PM
Without exception every Evertonian I have spoken with is totally underwhelmed at his return to Merseyside - says it all about the player

And the fact that they have to fork out the princely sum, sorry, wasted sum, of 75k a week.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: stuart445 on January 23, 2019, 10:28:48 PM
I think it's relevant who activated it.  If it was activated by us you may think it was part of a wider plan

Yes I agree with this. Bolasie activating it gives more cause for concern. From what I saw against Swansea in the cup, away at Wigan and the first half against Hull, it looked like the players had no interest in playing for the manager. Whatever your thoughts on his performances, Bolasie choosing to go back only adds to that impression. It was hardly as though he was sitting on the bench every week

The players had no interest playing for the manager first half against Hull but then after a half time cuppa they decided they were wrong and should play for him instead. Fuck me, there's some shite spouted here sometimes.

Not quite sure that is right. There was only a slight improvement in the second half and tbh it'd have been quite an achievement  have gotten any worse
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: Ads on January 24, 2019, 12:06:01 AM
We were much better 2nd half and easily the better side. Not enough cutting edge, but off the ball we were 100% better.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: stuart445 on January 24, 2019, 12:23:16 AM
We were much better 2nd half and easily the better side. Not enough cutting edge, but off the ball we were 100% better.

As has been said we were that bad in the 1st half that being mediocre in the 2nd half was a massive improvement.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: DrGonzo on January 28, 2019, 07:53:20 PM
The Guardian reporting that Bolasie didn't inform Silva that he was cutting his loan deal short, and that Silva is unimpressed at having his wages back on the books and that he has no future at the club...
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: London Villan on January 28, 2019, 08:11:25 PM
Or dean smith had a go at him for not giving 100%.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: wittonwarrior on January 28, 2019, 09:44:40 PM
How is he going to play  in the premiership.  We can all dream but few of us  achieve.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: Villatillidie1982 on January 29, 2019, 12:43:12 AM
Quote from BBC Sport "Paris St-Germain have made a bid of £21.5m to sign Everton's Senegal midfielder Idrissa Gueye - but the Toffees say the 29-year-old is not for sale".

Everton have clearly done better out of recent deals between the 2 clubs. How much did we sell him for?
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: ldavfc4eva on January 29, 2019, 07:09:14 AM
£7m if memory serves
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: Gareth on January 29, 2019, 07:19:27 AM
9m wasn’t it? Wonder if there was a sell on included? If there was was it cashed in last yr with the £’s meltdown?
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: AndyB6 on January 29, 2019, 07:42:38 AM
I think Gueye had a set fee that he could leave for in his contract if we got relegated - which we did 🤔.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: Brassneck on January 29, 2019, 10:11:01 AM
I think Gueye had a set fee that he could leave for in his contract if we got relegated - which we did 🤔.

Yes so no need for a sell on clause.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: olaftab on January 29, 2019, 05:18:42 PM
Quote from BBC Sport "Paris St-Germain have made a bid of £21.5m to sign Everton's Senegal midfielder Idrissa Gueye - but the Toffees say the 29-year-old is not for sale".

Everton have clearly done better out of recent deals between the 2 clubs. How much did we sell him for?
No not really as player transfer inflation has gone through the roof since his transfer. Remember Everton paid £45 Million for Sigurdson.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: hilts_coolerking on January 31, 2019, 02:42:38 PM
Anderlecht in for Bloasie according to BBC Sport.  Why?  Surely they must have seen some of his Villa performances, and at Everton.  Unless they get him for peanuts I just don't understand that.  They must have better wingers than him in the stiffs.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: footyskillz on January 31, 2019, 04:29:06 PM
Sky sports reporting that Bolasie is advanced talks  to Anderlect and is travelling there to finalise the deal.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on January 31, 2019, 10:09:51 PM
Signed for Anderlecht
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: TheMalandro on January 31, 2019, 10:19:25 PM
Signed for Anderlecht

I think that clarifies the rumours.
Title: Re: Yannick Bolasie - Returned to Everton
Post by: hilts_coolerking on January 31, 2019, 11:11:45 PM
For 6 months only, according to the BBC.