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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Legion on May 15, 2018, 09:42:59 PM
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Job done. Nice one. We'll have to step it up somewhat against Fulham at Wembley, though.
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Fat kids on the pitch
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Get in, Villa.
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Got so lucky with the Johnstone decision, we deserved to win over 2 legs.
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Fucking hell that was tense, let’s try and be more proactive in the final!
Johnstone was incredibly lucky, that was a straight red every single day.
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Great performance. Boro - who apparently ran rings around us all season and are a better side - are fucking shit. Yes Mr Boro fan on YouTube I am talking to you.
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Over 2 games superb game management.
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Thank Christ for that.
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Kodjia did really well when he came on.
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Villlllllllllllllllaaaa yes !
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Comfortable win in the end, but Johnstone was lucky to stay on. I suppose the Fulham-are-Real-Madrid style jitters will kick in soon enough, but they really aren't. We are a better side and should've really gone up automatically.
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Thank McGrath for that.
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Kodjia did really well when he came on.
He did. Looked much sharper.
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Kodjia did really well when he came on.
He did. Looked much sharper.
Yes indeed. Held the ball up really well
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Terry looks like a proud dad
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Phew, thank feck that's finished!
'Very relieved we've made it to Wembley, but they'll have to play better than that to overcome Real Fulham. Still, another day: another set of finger nails to be chewed to their quicks. UTV
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Fat kids on the pitch
Fat children took my life
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Solid performance. They created sod all. Terry and Chester are easily the best central defensive pairing in this division, and Hutton was excellent, again. So was Jedinak.
Boro are mince, though. Fulham will be a different kettle of icthyioids, altogether.
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Terry looks like a proud dad
I'm sure he'll mention Jlloyd in a post-match interview.
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Were boro singing where you were when you were shit after the game?
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so Barcelona v Atletico Madrid in the final
Hutton sign him up and mark fulhams no 3 in the final
Jedi immense
JT and Chester solid
Johnstone bloody lucky
kodja was good when he came - might need him in the final
Jack great as usual
Albert worked hard to be fair
conor and Grabbon a little under par but job done
Bree got better as the game went on
easily the best team in the two legs even If we can do a lot better
wem ber lee wem ber lee
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Shit first half. Controlled it more in the second.
When we pass the ball and play through Grealish something happens. Unfortunately we don’t decide to do this for most of the game.
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Hahahaha Pulis will be so pissed off with the decision on Johnstone.
In fairness that ref made terrible decisions all game, so on balance we deserved that on to even things up.
Villa far and away the better side and had all the best chances.
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Johnstone should’ve been sent off.
Kodjia May have played himself into the final.
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We bossed a very defensive team with a pretty toothless frontline. Nothing to fear against Fulham. I think we have more maturity in the team, to cope with the pressure. Hoping for a wonder goal in the final from Grealish.
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I have tears in my eyes, why does Aston Villa mean so much? Jedi and Jack, I would have your babies, if I was a woman.
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Their keeper was the man of the tie over 2 legs. Over 2 legs they had 1 shot on target.
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Well done you Villa boys The result was the main thing tonight. For the first time i can ever remember i liked Mike Dean .I told my mate before the game he would make a clanger. Red card every day of the week for the Johnstone hand ball
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Glad that's over,been having kitten's since Saturday,well done lad's.
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Job done, we should have been clear, very lucky with Sam.
As for Fulham, sometimes you play better against better teams.
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Apart from the free kick we were never in trouble, played in full control the last half hour. Will have to step it up against Fulham, but we have the players to do so. Thought Jedi and Albert were great, Jack his usual self. UTV.
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Job done, we should have been clear, very lucky with Sam.
As for Fulham, sometimes you play better against better teams.
I hope they don't.
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Kodjia did really well when he came on.
He did, he looks back to his best. Could be the key in the final
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Heart still pounding and shaking like a leaf. What a relief that's over. We should have won, much better second half by us but agonising at the end. Nearly 5 am here and I feel like a drink. No work today.
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boro bird just messaged me
Well done mate. Brave fight from us but you'll beat Fulham. Deserve to go up xx
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We've had some abysmal referees this season, but we got a break tonight.
I don't care. We're going to Wembley.
Time to banish the memory of 2015!
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Boro were awful. Starting Shotton at right back again when they needed to create chances. Bamford on bench.
We were much better second half and should have finished off the tie. Johnstone's brain fart gave them a chance they didn't deserve. Terry and Chester rock solid again. Both wide men worked very hard and Kodjia was much improved.
Johnstone 4, Bree 5, Chester 8, Terry 8, Hutton 7, Snodgrass 7, Jedinak 6, Hourihane 6, Adamoah 7, Grealish 6, Grabban 5. Kodjia 7
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I thought Grabban looked very dangerous. Two saves he forced.
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I had to go out for a walk on eighty minutes, my old ticker can't put up with this stress. Well done Villa.
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Boro were awful. Starting Shotton at right back again when they needed to create chances. Bamford on bench.
We were much better second half and should have finished off the tie. Johnstone's brain fart gave them a chance they didn't deserve. Terry and Chester rock solid again. Both wide men worked very hard and Kodjia was much improved.
Johnstone 4, Bree 5, Chester 8, Terry 8, Hutton 7, Snodgrass 7, Jedinak 6, Hourihane 6, Adamoah 7, Grealish 6, Grabban 5. Kodjia 7
Jedinak 6 ????
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Were boro singing where you were when you were shit after the game?
I think it was Villa fans singing it at the fat kids on the pitch. "When WE were shit"
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They're calling for Pullis to go now, they want Monk back. HA
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Were boro singing where you were when you were shit after the game?
No that was most of the upper tier at the lower tier invading the pitch.
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Jedi MOTM, snodgrass close behind, worked his nuts off, Kodjia looked good could play a big role in the final, Adomah looked very poor early on but more like himself later on, Bree looked very nervous but settled down, defence otherwise rock solid
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Boro were awful. Starting Shotton at right back again when they needed to create chances. Bamford on bench.
We were much better second half and should have finished off the tie. Johnstone's brain fart gave them a chance they didn't deserve. Terry and Chester rock solid again. Both wide men worked very hard and Kodjia was much improved.
Johnstone 4, Bree 5, Chester 8, Terry 8, Hutton 7, Snodgrass 7, Jedinak 6, Hourihane 6, Adamoah 7, Grealish 6, Grabban 5. Kodjia 7
Jedinak 6 ????
Thought he was diabolical first half, kept passing every ball back to Johnstone. Good effort in second half. We weren't great tonight and need to improve a lot to beat Fulham on current form.
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Couldn't watch the last half hour... I've always thought if we get to Wembley we'll go up. I'm not going to go back on that now, but we need a performance. One win Villa, one win.
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How hard is it going to be for me to get tickets for this game?
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Bree done well after a shaky start, Kodjia looked very sharp after he came on, may be pushing for a start.
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I thought Grabban looked very dangerous. Two saves he forced.
JK looked good though when he came on.
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Jedi was immense in the first half!
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That was a don’t concede grind out a result game.
Was it pleasant to watch. No.
Would I take us nicking the final like that....
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Bruce does what he does best, ugly but effective. Vs Dulham need to show more going fwd
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Jedi was immense in the first half!
My MoM. Love him. Conor...poor...again
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at around 80 minutes there popped up a stat that we had 10 attempts to 3, and 5 on target to their 0 - it never felt like that through out the game - was surprised. Thought we were frantic and panicking playing up the field - no control of the ball. But around 70 minutes we became calmer, to do the mandatory panic towards the end. Thank f that ended and we are in the final.
Anything can happen that day.
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Can somebody start a " Steve Bruce is a fkn Master" thread?
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I had to go out for a walk on eighty minutes, my old ticker can't put up with this stress. Well done Villa.
Ha ha know what you mean mate. The older you get the more stressful it is. Every time they had a corner I had to go to the loo coz I couldn’t watch! Why the fuck do we put ourselves through it?!?
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Highlights (http://www.skysports.com/football/a-villa-vs-mboro/389235)
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Tiny being somewhat magnanimous in his interview, said nothing to upset me.
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We really need to sort out how to bring the ball out from the back, Johnstone's kicks always never stick to a Villa player and just hand possession to the opposition.
Was pleased to see the stamina levels holding up.
Hope we can do it.
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Kodjia looked much better today because he got a few passes into his feet rather than everything being fired up to him from 50 yards away. It gave him a chance to get into the game and helped him massively.
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How hard is it going to be for me to get tickets for this game?
38k tickets available. If you've been to VP at all this season, you should be good (I think...):
https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/996496001534955525?s=19
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Pulis said they created opportunities but needed to take them. When?
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Thoroughly professional performance tonight, Boro never had a shot on goal. Mile was superb as were Jack, Snoddy, Terry, Chester and Hutton.
Mike Dean did us a favour, but we should have had a penalty, when Chester has his shirt ripped. Blood pressure just starting to go down now.
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We could have had 2 pens, so Sam not getting sent evens it out.
Play that style against Fulham we will be battered. Need to play on the front foot like we did against Wolves.
Anyone else want Barney in for Hourihane?
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How hard is it going to be for me to get tickets for this game?
38k tickets available. If you've been to VP at all this season, you should be good (I think...):
https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/996496001534955525?s=19
I managed five games up to January and then QPR got cancelled and 90% of the remaining home games were shifted to night TV matches were is a no go for me. Pain in the arse Sky Sports!
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Got so lucky with the Johnstone decision, we deserved to win over 2 legs.
Apparently not:
From BBC Sport
"It might not have had the pace to beat the backtracking defenders which made a yellow, rather than red card, the right call."
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I don’t think Terry was getting back for that. Looked in to me.
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We want our generals to be lucky. Not pretty.
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We could have had 2 pens, so Sam not getting sent evens it out.
Play that style against Fulham we will be battered. Need to play on the front foot like we did against Wolves.
Anyone else want Barney in for Hourihane?
I thought Hourihane was immense tonight. He did so much work off the ball.
That club will kill me. We don't half make bloody hard work of it. Delighted we're through though, deservedly so over the two legs.
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It was a red every day of the week, as said though, Chester should have had a pen so evened out.
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You're right Clampy, played a solid team roll, didn't break forward as much, done what SB asked of him.
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Boro were shite across both legs and we fully deserved to go through. Typical Pulis team, no creativity and barely a shot.
First half was poor and the crowd were very nervy. Second half I thought we managed the game better and the crowd really got behind the team. At times VP was the loudest it's been for years.
Pitch invasion was stupid imo. We mocked Fulham for doing it and we'd have mocked Small Heath for doing it and said it was smalltime. Instagram and the like has a lot to answer for, some only run on so they can put a picture on Instagram and show off to their little pals. It ruined the celebrations as the players had to rush off and couldn't milk it with the Holte and the rest of the ground. "Where were you when we were shit?" to those on the pitch raised a chuckle.
We're on our way.
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You're right Clampy, played a solid team roll, didn't break forward as much, done what SB asked of him.
I would say everybody did what was asked by Steve tonight, good, not brilliant, performance.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DdQ_Td3XUAAs3d8.jpg:large)
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Hourihane covered a lot of ground, got stuck in and won the ball back in some key moments and 9 times out of 10 his shot was in. I think he did well.
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Boro fans on train to Barny Green saying we were shit and fans didn't sing all game. Perhaps he can cry into him Range Rover steering wheel...
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It was a proper team performance. Every man jack of them put in a shift. Why anyone would want to pick out below par performances is just bizarre.
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It did sound a little flat on the tellybox, what happened with the giant flag, I was looking forward to seeing it ?
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Were boro singing where you were when you were shit after the game?
No, we were to the wankers on the pitch.
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Johnstone was a bit lucky but you make your own luck. Handling was good generally. Hutton was great, Bree grew into the game. Terry and Chester were solid, as was Jedinak. Albert and Snodgrass worked really hard. Grealish was class, although too deep for my liking but really disciplined. Hourihane was snappy and disciplined. Grabban and Kodjia worked hard. Jimmy Danger was loving it when he was kidnapped by the fans.
Not a classic by any means but our game management was very good tonight. Disciplined, reliable and we still managed way more efforts on goal than them.
Running on the pitch lacks class and prevented us from celebrating properly with the players and fans.
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Were boro singing where you were when you were shit after the game?
No that was most of the upper tier at the lower tier invading the pitch.
There were plenty in the Lower giving them pelters as well. There were an alarming amount of middle aged pissed fat blokes determined to get on.
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It did sound a little flat on the tellybox, what happened with the giant flag, I was looking forward to seeing it ?
First half was nervy on and off the pitch. The crowd were shitting ourselves and it meant a quiet and nervous atmosphere.
Second half was much better. Loudest I've heard for years in some spells. The claret and blue army chants towards the end with the whole ground up were deafening.
Also curious as to what happened with the flag? Did they balls it up? Did they scrap it because of the pitch invasion?
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Summed Pulis up, must win game with over £100m at stake, and they manage 0 attempts on target. He really is an abomination of a manager.
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It did sound a little flat on the tellybox, what happened with the giant flag, I was looking forward to seeing it ?
First half was nervy on and off the pitch. The crowd were shitting ourselves and it meant a quiet and nervous atmosphere.
Second half was much better. Loudest I've heard for years in some spells. The claret and blue army chants towards the end with the whole ground up were deafening.
Also curious as to what happened with the flag? Did they balls it up? Did they scrap it because of the pitch invasion?
Scrapped because of the pitch invasion.
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It did sound a little flat on the tellybox, what happened with the giant flag, I was looking forward to seeing it ?
I thought the atmosphere was great especially towards the end when the finish line was in sight.
Was the flag the thing that was suspended above the Holte End? Were they going to drop it down?
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A flag that is going to block the view is a strange one anyway. Drop it while the players are in front of the Holte so as it blocks the view for everyone behind it? And where was it in 2015/16 when it would have improved the view?
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What was that large banner hanging from the Holte? I was expecting it to drop at FT, it never happened.
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What was that large banner hanging from the Holte? I was expecting it to drop at FT, it never happened.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DdQIztNX0AA2DAV.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DdP_8fEX4AI_9M3.jpg)
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I thought we were pretty comfortable throughout, the free kick was a bit nervy but that aside they didn’t have a sniff. We didn’t create a lot but we didn’t need to
My MOM was Jedinak who was immense but that’s the best I’ve seen Hourihane play for us, he tracked diligently and pressed or held at exactly the right times
Well done Bruce, tactically faultless in this tie
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Totally called it.
Is Mike Dean the prick who celebrated Spurs scoring against us?
The very same. Boro fans are well chuffed that he's reffing the game at villa park. (I popped in on one of their forums and I have a relation who is a big Boro fan)
You're not wrong!
but the really amazing news is the away leg we've got riverside mike dean so we've pretty much won lads.
I take it they've been beneficiaries of his decisions in the past.
Don't matter. Win the first leg of the semi 1-0, see out the second 0-0, and off to Rotterdam Wembley on the 26th.
Now for my hat-trick, I just need Pulis to announce his retirement. Come on Tony, you know you want to...
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And....breathe. Great shift by the whole team but the longer it stayed 0-0 I was convinced they would get one to take it to extra time. Having said that I can only recall one shot on target for them - Downing hitting the bar late on, and Randolph was far busier than Johnstone again. Wouldn't pick out any one player as MOTM but special mentions for Jedinak, winning pretty much everything that came near him, Hutton for keeping Adama in his back pocket again, and Snodgrass for tracking back to help Bree especially after his nervy start. Even Mike Dean wasn't as bad as I expected him to be (damning with faint praise), although I thought we should have had a penalty, but that decision was balanced by showing Johnstone a yellow instead of a straight red. Terrific noise in the Holte and all round the ground - a noisy Villa Park under floodlights takes some beating.
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Well done Villa!! Another clean sheet along with Saturday's. A third clean sheet and hopefully a win at Wembley should see us going up! Chester, Terry, Hutton and Jedi were all good tonight. Hourihane played really well, ran his socks off, tackled well and got into some shooting positions. He showed there is more to his game than just scoring. Well done Connor!
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What was that large banner hanging from the Holte? I was expecting it to drop at FT, it never happened.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DdQIztNX0AA2DAV.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DdP_8fEX4AI_9M3.jpg)
Yes, I was waiting for it drop. I expected it to say, keep off the pitoh !
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How hard is it going to be for me to get tickets for this game?
38k tickets available. If you've been to VP at all this season, you should be good (I think...):
https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/996496001534955525?s=19
Yeh only been once with Risso. Might have problems if we only have 38k
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Cant say i enjoyed that but Job done.
Disappointed with the pitch invasion, I thought we might have shown some class.
I was impressed with the Middlesbrough fans, loads wished us well for the final as we came out of the ground.
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How hard is it going to be for me to get tickets for this game?
38k tickets available. If you've been to VP at all this season, you should be good (I think...):
https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/996496001534955525?s=19
Yeh only been once with Risso. Might have problems if we only have 38k
If you want one you'll get one. FA cup finals are only 25k and that's been close to general sale the last two occasions we've been.
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boro bird just messaged me
Well done mate. Brave fight from us but you'll beat Fulham. Deserve to go up xx
Two kisses. Nudge nudge, wink wink!
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Boro were awful. Starting Shotton at right back again when they needed to create chances. Bamford on bench.
We were much better second half and should have finished off the tie. Johnstone's brain fart gave them a chance they didn't deserve. Terry and Chester rock solid again. Both wide men worked very hard and Kodjia was much improved.
Johnstone 4, Bree 5, Chester 8, Terry 8, Hutton 7, Snodgrass 7, Jedinak 6, Hourihane 6, Adamoah 7, Grealish 6, Grabban 5. Kodjia 7
Jedinak 6 ????
10 from me. He was immense
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Get in!!!
Managed that tie superbly in many respects. Just pleased with the result. Jedinak player of match. SJ reckless but lucky and... One more match and back in the big league!!
Utv.
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Just read that the flag was meant to be unfurled before the game when the fireworks were going off. Apparently they tested it before the game and it flopped and didn't open properly so they didn't try it again.
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Fucking YAS. Well done Villa, one game to go. Fuck the Fuckers.
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How hard is it going to be for me to get tickets for this game?
38k tickets available. If you've been to VP at all this season, you should be good (I think...):
https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/996496001534955525?s=19
Yeh only been once with Risso. Might have problems if we only have 38k
It will easily make general sale. I don't think we sold out 33k for the FA Semi against Chelsea in 2010.
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What did the flag say?
“50% off sale in the club shop”
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What did the flag say?
“50% off sale in the club shop”
Never mind Arse we’re the Aston Villa.
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It did sound a little flat on the tellybox, what happened with the giant flag, I was looking forward to seeing it ?
First half was nervy on and off the pitch. The crowd were shitting ourselves and it meant a quiet and nervous atmosphere.
Second half was much better. Loudest I've heard for years in some spells. The claret and blue army chants towards the end with the whole ground up were deafening.
Also curious as to what happened with the flag? Did they balls it up? Did they scrap it because of the pitch invasion?
Scrapped because of the pitch invasion.
The council blocked us from using the flag.
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Bruce's 'safety first' approach always feels like an unnecessarily big risk.
Never mind. Well done to all concerned.
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If you were a neutral watching that you'd probably say it was never really at risk.
It was unbelievably fucking tense though. There was a point with ten minutes or so to go where the whole ground erupted in deafening noise in support which was spine tingling.
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Over the two legs I thought he had it spot on, we looked the most likely to score without ever being open enough to give Boro chances bar them doing something amazing.
Top marks from me and I’m not a natural fan of his
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If you were a neutral watching that you'd probably say it was never really at risk.
It was unbelievably fucking tense though. There was a point with ten minutes or so to go where the whole ground erupted in deafening noise in support which was spine tingling.
TV commentators with no bias towards us at all have often said the same thing. That when Villa Park gets loud, it's very, very loud.
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Summed Pulis up, must win game with over £100m at stake, and they manage 0 attempts on target. He really is an abomination of a manager.
And very animated for no apparent reason. Villa fans gave him an easy ride as well
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Over the two legs I thought he had it spot on, we looked the most likely to score without ever being open enough to give Boro chances bar them doing something amazing.
Top marks from me and I’m not a natural fan of his
Boro are very limited though. I'd say that sort of opposition isn't that difficult to set up for tactics wise as you know what they're going to do.
Now Fulham is completely different prospect. Hopefully SB can do a number on them like Sherwood did with Liverpool a few years back.
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Boro were shite across both legs and we fully deserved to go through. Typical Pulis team, no creativity and barely a shot.
First half was poor and the crowd were very nervy. Second half I thought we managed the game better and the crowd really got behind the team. At times VP was the loudest it's been for years.
Pitch invasion was stupid imo. We mocked Fulham for doing it and we'd have mocked Small Heath for doing it and said it was smalltime. Instagram and the like has a lot to answer for, some only run on so they can put a picture on Instagram and show off to their little pals. It ruined the celebrations as the players had to rush off and couldn't milk it with the Holte and the rest of the ground. "Where were you when we were shit?" to those on the pitch raised a chuckle.
We're on our way.
Atmosphere in the Holte was superb. Agree re pitch invasion although our players wouldn’t have milked it. The job is only half done after all
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Highlights (http://www.skysports.com/football/a-villa-vs-mboro/389235)
Having seen the highlights, was Johnstone's arm definitely outside the area anyway? Even when the free kick hit the bar, he may have had it covered. Or am I just biased.
I wasn't sure how Steve Bruce would handle a 1-0 lead going into the home leg but can't complain, except for the persistence with only one striker which creates defensive problems of its own as one striker is no outlet when the pressure is on.
McCafu needs to be signed up for another year. A revelation on the left.
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From an atmosphere point of view I think that’s the best of the season, the whole ground was singing without a lot going on on the pitch, the same happened at other games but at times when we were in strong winning positions
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Highlights (http://www.skysports.com/football/a-villa-vs-mboro/389235)
Having seen the highlights, was Johnstone's arm definitely outside the area anyway? Even when the free kick hit the bar, he may have had it covered. Or am I just biased.
I wasn't sure how Steve Bruce would handle a 1-0 lead going into the home leg but can't complain, except for the persistence with only one striker which creates defensive problems of its own as one striker is no outlet when the pressure is on.
McCafu needs to be signed up for another year. A revelation on the left.
He should have been sent off
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Even if it was a red for SJ. The free kick would have hit the bar and we would have held out with 10 men. Jed was great but at the same time it means we effectively play 5 at the back and this limits Jack. That said I would start the final with same 11 tonight. I would bring on Kodja in the second half.
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Highlights (http://www.skysports.com/football/a-villa-vs-mboro/389235)
Having seen the highlights, was Johnstone's arm definitely outside the area anyway? Even when the free kick hit the bar, he may have had it covered. Or am I just biased.
I wasn't sure how Steve Bruce would handle a 1-0 lead going into the home leg but can't complain, except for the persistence with only one striker which creates defensive problems of its own as one striker is no outlet when the pressure is on.
McCafu needs to be signed up for another year. A revelation on the left.
He should have been sent off
He should have been sent off. But we had two certain penalties ignored before that. I don't think they have too much to complain about. Especially as the referee has actually celebrated goal against us before. He's hardly One Of Us.
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He wasn’t sent off. We went through. Fuck them.
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Job done
Couldn't go to the match, Stuck in bloody Malaga, doh
So tense
Well done to me Babbies and all the fans that managed to attend
And a special well done to Steve Bruce,who has been through very hard times of late
UTV and I'll see you at Wembley on the 26th
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Went out after the game and only just got back in. Solid at the back again tonight and I thought the experience of Hutton, Chester, Terry and Jedinak was crucial again tonight. Thought Bree had a nervous start, but got over that and did OK. We switched off once and it nearly cost us with the free-kick, but they really struggled to break us down.
Bit better going forward in the second half and Randolph made two very good saves (from Grabban and Grealish) to go with his one from the first leg. Thought the pitch invasion was a bit OTT, but the chants of "where were you when we were sh&t" were a bit unnecessary to be honest.
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Summed Pulis up, must win game with over £100m at stake, and they manage 0 attempts on target. He really is an abomination of a manager.
And very animated for no apparent reason. Villa fans gave him an easy ride as well
i sit just behind the away dugout and Pulis was given anything but an easy ride from our section.
TP and his assistant repeatedly doing the ‘Y’ from YMCA was very amusing
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Highlights (http://www.skysports.com/football/a-villa-vs-mboro/389235)
Having seen the highlights, was Johnstone's arm definitely outside the area anyway? Even when the free kick hit the bar, he may have had it covered. Or am I just biased.
I wasn't sure how Steve Bruce would handle a 1-0 lead going into the home leg but can't complain, except for the persistence with only one striker which creates defensive problems of its own as one striker is no outlet when the pressure is on.
McCafu needs to be signed up for another year. A revelation on the left.
He should have been sent off
Jack could have been off as well if his tackle had connected
Ref was inconsistent (eg Hutton being booked just after Shotten was let off for basically the same offence).
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Well that was painful but right result. Well done Villa boys and Bruce. MotM for me was the Crowd. It's a long time since I have heard so much noise at VP.
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Just got home, not really what I was hoping for but to be expected I suppose, Bruce knows what he’s doing so we have to trust his approach. Only time in the whole game I was slightly worried was the Downing free kick apart from that the Smogmonsters deserved absolutely nothing and got it.
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The only reason I thought Dean might not have sent Johnstone off was if he thought the pace of the ball meant Terry had a chance to clear?
Wonder if Johnstone just got bored, barely had anything to do in either game, I’m amongst those that bored with Bruce tactics but imagine watching a Pulis team :-) because he joined mid season he had a free hit so played traore, he won’t be in his team going forward!
As for Downing, we’ll call it quits now for him pushing his way out when the going got tough - that and the 20m :-)
We go to Wembley as underdogs, I think that might suit us well
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Highlights (http://www.skysports.com/football/a-villa-vs-mboro/389235)
Having seen the highlights, was Johnstone's arm definitely outside the area anyway? Even when the free kick hit the bar, he may have had it covered. Or am I just biased.
I wasn't sure how Steve Bruce would handle a 1-0 lead going into the home leg but can't complain, except for the persistence with only one striker which creates defensive problems of its own as one striker is no outlet when the pressure is on.
McCafu needs to be signed up for another year. A revelation on the left.
He should have been sent off
Jack could have been off as well if his tackle had connected
Ref was inconsistent (eg Hutton being booked just after Shotten was let off for basically the same offence).
Yep. Swings and roundabouts innit? He should have gone but these things tend to even out. And it was a big moment. Of course we could have had a few more things go our way tonight.
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Absolutely knackered, but oh well. The sun is shining, Villa are off to Wembley, and my aim is to somehow get a ticket and fly back from Tokyo for the weekend of May 26th.
I mentioned it this morning to my wife, and as we're supposed to be saving money for starting a family, I got a raised eyebrow and an 'oh, ok'. I highly doubt that it was a positive 'oh ok'.
Either way, fucking brilliant. Well done all involved.
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Hmm, direct 12 hour flights leaving Tokyo on the 24th, flying back on the 27th are just under £900.
Villa or prolonged marriage? That is the quandary.
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Just got home, not really what I was hoping for but to be expected I suppose, Bruce knows what he’s doing so we have to trust his approach. Only time in the whole game I was slightly worried was the Downing free kick apart from that the Smogmonsters deserved absolutely nothing and got it.
It really was what we should have expected, except Bruce pretty much tied them up. First and foremost, it was an really entertaining game. It was a great end to end game, the commitment was superb, the tackles were flying in, the wonderful dedication was there for all to see. It's just a shame the players with the bottle all got booked.
We were not great, we didn'tn't deserve to win or lose but it was still a top performance. It was a collective performance. We deserve to be in the final. Right now, I'll take that.
As for the final, we just need a Wolves type performance. Obviously, we don't do it every game but we just need to do it for one game.
We have little choice. I'm right now happy right now we didn't reach our heights. We're far better than tonight but hopefully we've kept a little in reserve. Fulham may have been the best footballing team but we are the best winning team.*
*Touches wood, head, etc.. We can do it.
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Just got back but "here" is a hotel in Wakefield having driven down from Warrington this afternoon.
But my god it was worth it - crowd and atmosphere was excvellant. Not a game for the purist admittedly and it it'd been a league game id have asked what was wrong with Albert 1st half couldnt even seem to break into a fast walk but redeemed 2nd half.
And we do llok so good playing it to/from feetijust dont understand why we dont do more of it - that move where Grabban almost tapped it in was proper football. Maybe playng against better opposition will give us tie & space (please god just like the wolves when we're at Wembley)
Right few beers then bed,im working tomorrow !!
UTV
VTID
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Those Boro cams bit more honest this morning apart from the odd one or two that still reckon they were the better side and had better chances (!) There's one interrupted by a "VIlla fan" who tells them they were unlucky and deserved it on the night. Really?
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Not always easy on the eye but we adapted to the situation and found a way to get it done. There’s a resilience about this Villa side we’ve not seen in a long time.
Two down, one to go.
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Thought we contained them well all night bar the Johnstone opportunity and the subsequent free kick. He's not save a shot again.
Pulis will never change. To bring Bamford on and then shunt him wide for Gestede is just cowardice.
Shame Grabban didn't score. The place was like a powder keg second half and would have gone off if we'd have scored. Second half in particular the whole ground was incredibly loud.
Final point about the pitch invaders- they absolutely ruined it
Utter morons.
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Jedinak was utterly brilliant over the two legs. He held it together for us last night. Special praise to Snoddy and Hourihane for putting in great shifts. Glad Bree improved as the game went on, big game for him.
One more game to go.
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Jedinak’s best two games in a Villa shirt.
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Jedinak’s best two games in a Villa shirt.
Agreed. Jedi, Hutton, Chester, Terry all immense.
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I missed the first ten minutes as it took two and a half hours to get 29 miles last night but thought Boro were the more dangerous side fin what I saw of the first half. The best move of the night was ours which should have seen Grabban score at very lose range. Other than that, we didn't create too much although Jack's effort deserved to go in. Brilliant game management for the semis but a different approach needed for the big one.
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Hmm, direct 12 hour flights leaving Tokyo on the 24th, flying back on the 27th are just under £900.
Villa or prolonged marriage? That is the quandary.
There are plenty of fish in the sea. 😜
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I'd drank more than I thought. Had a bit of a hangover when I woke up.
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Bruce got the tactics spot on in both legs and the experienced players came to the fore.
Snodgrass in particular worked his knackers off last night.
Apart from Weasel hitting the bar, the longer it went on the more I thought we looked like the team most likely to score.
There is no reason at all why we can't beat Fulham.
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Highlights (http://www.skysports.com/football/a-villa-vs-mboro/389235)
Having seen the highlights, was Johnstone's arm definitely outside the area anyway? Even when the free kick hit the bar, he may have had it covered. Or am I just biased.
I wasn't sure how Steve Bruce would handle a 1-0 lead going into the home leg but can't complain, except for the persistence with only one striker which creates defensive problems of its own as one striker is no outlet when the pressure is on.
McCafu needs to be signed up for another year. A revelation on the left.
He should have been sent off
Jack could have been off as well if his tackle had connected
Ref was inconsistent (eg Hutton being booked just after Shotten was let off for basically the same offence).
George Friend was lucky to only get a yellow for his challenge on Johnstone in the first half.
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My only disappointment.
we didn't get to sing,
There's only one Tiny p
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On talk shite after the game Boro fans were raging about Pulis and his negative ways.
It's hard not to sympathise with them.
Whole team made up for lesser quality in possesion with absolute guts and determination. They were warriors for the cause out there.
Special mention for James Bree. Came in for the biggest game of his life and did not let himself or the team down.
2 stand out moves that would have produced outstanding goals.
1st half alovely bit of movement ending with an Albert cross to the on rushing Hourihanne and but for a world class block would have scored.
The 2nd half and the move from the edge of our own box for the Grabban chance.
Also a mention for the fans. At 75 mins it was tense and the fans responded with all 4 sides in loud unison. It was deafening and gave the players the injection to see out the game.
Fulham - I think Bruce has to be tough and brave and change Jedinak for either Barney or Whelan as we now need mobility rather than power.
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The pitch invasion was utterly embarrassing.
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The pitch invasion was utterly embarrassing.
Agree, can only hope that the club or even better the police had cctv on the few utter imbeciles who took it as a chance to run in front of the Boro fans goading them - not only lacking class but cowardly in the extreme being billy big balls behind a line of stewards - hopefully they will be denied access to final tickets & get a stadium ban - we don’t need those fans
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From the Boro forum:
"The atmosphere tonight was almost literally deafening, which anyone who goes away regularly will tell you is rare"
"At times the noise was hurting my ears. I've been going away a long time and that was loud"
"Agree with the OP. It was deafening"
Beautiful. Well done boys and girls. I hoped at half time everyone could shake the nerves and roar them over the line and we did. It sounds cheesy and cliche but attacking a packed Holte really does make a difference, it implores the players to attack and bays for a goal. Agree with Ads, you could tell second half the ground was on the verge of exploding if we'd scored.
Loved the rallying atmosphere last 15 minutes aswell. The claret and blue army chants all around the ground were superb.
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We never do it easy! I thought we looked nervous first half but better team second. It would have been great to hear the noise if we had managed to score near the end. Great day out with my lad, who I hope I will share a Wembley victory with. UTV
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I thought Pulis was magnanimous in his post-match interview, saying we were the better team and deserved to go through.
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If we'd scored in the second half I don't think you could even begin to imagine what the noise and scenes would have been like, even in the Upper Trinity it was a powder keg waiting to erupt. Mind you not that the bloke sat to my left would have noticed, absolutely wasted and in charge of 2 kids aged about 5 each, great parenting Dad!
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If you were a neutral watching that you'd probably say it was never really at risk.
It was unbelievably fucking tense though. There was a point with ten minutes or so to go where the whole ground erupted in deafening noise in support which was spine tingling.
I went to a gig at the Sunflower and got into Snobs with about ten minutes of the match left. The support sounded amazing and I was surprised when I read on here that it seemed quiet for most of the match.
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What was the banner hung from the roof of the Hole End? Was it unfurled, what did it say? Couldn't see it from upper Trinity.
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If you were a neutral watching that you'd probably say it was never really at risk.
It was unbelievably fucking tense though. There was a point with ten minutes or so to go where the whole ground erupted in deafening noise in support which was spine tingling.
I went to a gig at the Sunflower and got into Snobs with about ten minutes of the match left. The support sounded amazing and I was surprised when I read on here that it seemed quiet for most of the match.
First half it did drop after the first 15-20 minutes. It wasn't quiet because it was a poor atmosphere though, it's probably the most tense and nervy crowd I've ever been in.
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What was the banner hung from the roof of the Hole End? Was it unfurled, what did it say? Couldn't see it from upper Trinity.
It was a massive lion and said 'We are Villa'. It went wrong in rehearsal and didn't unfurl properly. It was meant to come down at the start with the fireworks.
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Agree, can only hope that the club or even better the police had cctv on the few utter imbeciles who took it as a chance to run in front of the Boro fans goading them - not only lacking class but cowardly in the extreme being billy big balls behind a line of stewards - hopefully they will be denied access to final tickets & get a stadium ban - we don’t need those fans
Doubt it - Xia posted a photo of the pitch invasion on Twitter with the caption "Wembley here we come"
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Agree, can only hope that the club or even better the police had cctv on the few utter imbeciles who took it as a chance to run in front of the Boro fans goading them - not only lacking class but cowardly in the extreme being billy big balls behind a line of stewards - hopefully they will be denied access to final tickets & get a stadium ban - we don’t need those fans
Doubt it - Xia posted a photo of the pitch invasion on Twitter with the caption "Wembley here we come"
Saw my father-in-law on the telly grabbing the good doctor for a selfie.
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I've already had an e-mail from Fulham about tickets as I always buy tickets for our game in the Neutral end and have been to the other odd game there.......my boss is a Fulham fan and doens't hink they'll sell out 38k.
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On talk shite after the game Boro fans were raging about Pulis and his negative ways.
It's hard not to sympathise with them.
Whole team made up for lesser quality in possesion with absolute guts and determination. They were warriors for the cause out there.
Special mention for James Bree. Came in for the biggest game of his life and did not let himself or the team down.
2 stand out moves that would have produced outstanding goals.
1st half alovely bit of movement ending with an Albert cross to the on rushing Hourihanne and but for a world class block would have scored.
The 2nd half and the move from the edge of our own box for the Grabban chance.
Also a mention for the fans. At 75 mins it was tense and the fans responded with all 4 sides in loud unison. It was deafening and gave the players the injection to see out the game.
Fulham - I think Bruce has to be tough and brave and change Jedinak for either Barney or Whelan as we now need mobility rather than power.
Whelan won't add mobility really, bit better with the ball though. We simply have to keep the ball better at Wembley than the second half at Middlesboro and the first half last night. No doubt our players worked hard but thought the story of the night was Pulis caveman tactics and how desperately poor Boro were. We won't get away with it v Fulham.
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What was the banner hung from the roof of the Hole End? Was it unfurled, what did it say? Couldn't see it from upper Trinity.
I don't think that it was unfurled but I was sent this pic from earlier in the day
(https://thumb.ibb.co/kVKPDy/Flag_Capture.jpg) (https://ibb.co/kVKPDy)
I was really concerned that it would come down after the game and say something tacky like "See you at Wembley"
However, I was hoping that it said "Feck You Downing"
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Highlights (http://www.skysports.com/football/a-villa-vs-mboro/389235)
Having seen the highlights, was Johnstone's arm definitely outside the area anyway? Even when the free kick hit the bar, he may have had it covered. Or am I just biased.
I wasn't sure how Steve Bruce would handle a 1-0 lead going into the home leg but can't complain, except for the persistence with only one striker which creates defensive problems of its own as one striker is no outlet when the pressure is on.
McCafu needs to be signed up for another year. A revelation on the left.
He should have been sent off
Jack could have been off as well if his tackle had connected
Ref was inconsistent (eg Hutton being booked just after Shotten was let off for basically the same offence).
George Friend was lucky to only get a yellow for his challenge on Johnstone in the first half.
I haven't seen the highlights but from my position in the LTR it looked borderline Red
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I was so nervous
In the first half it was unbearable. Though interestingly we were chatting to a Boro fan on the way back to Euston who said that he didn’t think they were going anywhere in that first half; which I think was true in hindsight. But pass thatvpoorly v Fulham and we'll have problems
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Bruce got the tactics spot on in both legs and the experienced players came to the fore.
Snodgrass in particular worked his knackers off last night.
Apart from Weasel hitting the bar, the longer it went on the more I thought we looked like the team most likely to score.
There is no reason at all why we can't beat Fulham.
I hate to agree with every line in your post but I do. ;) In fact I should have used the new in word CORRECTAMUNDO.
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Agree, can only hope that the club or even better the police had cctv on the few utter imbeciles who took it as a chance to run in front of the Boro fans goading them - not only lacking class but cowardly in the extreme being billy big balls behind a line of stewards - hopefully they will be denied access to final tickets & get a stadium ban - we don’t need those fans
Doubt it - Xia posted a photo of the pitch invasion on Twitter with the caption "Wembley here we come"
West Mids Police Twitter seems keen tho :-)
#avfc #utv CCTV and EGT footage as well as Sky footage will be checked and any person identified doing more than entering the pitch ie goading Middlesbrough Fans or holding Pyro will be invited for interview and receive an FBO and or 3 yr club ban
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Highlights (http://www.skysports.com/football/a-villa-vs-mboro/389235)
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From the Boro forum:
"The atmosphere tonight was almost literally deafening, which anyone who goes away regularly will tell you is rare"
"At times the noise was hurting my ears. I've been going away a long time and that was loud"
"Agree with the OP. It was deafening"
Beautiful. Well done boys and girls. I hoped at half time everyone could shake the nerves and roar them over the line and we did. It sounds cheesy and cliche but attacking a packed Holte really does make a difference, it implores the players to attack and bays for a goal. Agree with Ads, you could tell second half the ground was on the verge of exploding if we'd scored.
Loved the rallying atmosphere last 15 minutes aswell. The claret and blue army chants all around the ground were superb.
What website is that from?
I thought it was the best atmosphere I'd ever heard at Vila Park.
I was walking to the ground via the estates and then down the side of the school and you could hear the noise a mile away pre-kick off. Singing going on in the queue to get in the Holte, good noise when we came out and generally through the first half.
Second half it just went up exponentially in volume. There was a point where nigh on the entire ground was stood up and belting it out and if Grabban's effort had gone in then ear drums would have been ruptured.
Towards the end, where everybody was stood up [including us at the front of the upper Holte] and just constantly belting out the songs, it was loud as fuck. One of those occasions where it must have been incredibly intimidating to be in the away end and just be drowned out on a sea of noise. Sort of reminded me of the semi against Liverpool when with 5 minutes to go, there was this guttural roar from our end and we saw them home.
I didn't think we were quiet at all really, fantastic atmosphere, especially when it was a 0-0.
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I was so nervous
In the first half it was unbearable. Though interestingly we were chatting to a Boro fan on the way back to Euston who said that he didn’t think they were going anywhere in that first half; which I think was true in hindsight. But pass thatvpoorly v Fulham and we'll have problems
Same here. First half was torture made worse by our reluctance to have a go at them but may be that was the plan. One incident to highlight that was when we had a free kick in their half about 5 minutes before HT there wasn't a single Villa player in or near their box Hutton took it and played it sideways to one of the midfielders. lol...as the kids would say.
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Highlights (http://www.skysports.com/football/a-villa-vs-mboro/389235)
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Working for me.
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From the Boro forum:
"The atmosphere tonight was almost literally deafening, which anyone who goes away regularly will tell you is rare"
"At times the noise was hurting my ears. I've been going away a long time and that was loud"
"Agree with the OP. It was deafening"
Beautiful. Well done boys and girls. I hoped at half time everyone could shake the nerves and roar them over the line and we did. It sounds cheesy and cliche but attacking a packed Holte really does make a difference, it implores the players to attack and bays for a goal. Agree with Ads, you could tell second half the ground was on the verge of exploding if we'd scored.
Loved the rallying atmosphere last 15 minutes aswell. The claret and blue army chants all around the ground were superb.
Towards the end, where everybody was stood up [including us at the front of the upper Holte] and just constantly belting out the songs, it was loud as fuck. One of those occasions where it must have been incredibly intimidating to be in the away end and just be drowned out on a sea of noise. Sort of reminded me of the semi against Liverpool when with 5 minutes to go, there was this guttural roar from our end and we saw them home.
I didn't think we were quiet at all really, fantastic atmosphere, especially when it was a 0-0.
I got a sense of that too. This time it was from about 10 mins to go when there was a few full blooded block tackles. A sort of 'none shall pass' attitude. Over the years of supporting the club there is nothing more than our crowd like than full blooded effort from our players and we respond in kind. It was great to see the place in such mood again.
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I thought the noise last night was the best since that Blackburn semi, West Brom in the Cup was good but this was on another level.
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I've already had an e-mail from Fulham about tickets as I always buy tickets for our game in the Neutral end and have been to the other odd game there.......my boss is a Fulham fan and doens't hink they'll sell out 38k.
I don't either despite it being ten minutes up the road. Fulham have hardcore support of about 15k. In the prem they got 25k due to increased away allocations and getting in tourists into that neutral section.
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Highlights (http://www.skysports.com/football/a-villa-vs-mboro/389235)
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Try www.goalsarena.org mate. It usually has all goals and highlights of Villa games from sky.
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From the Boro forum:
"The atmosphere tonight was almost literally deafening, which anyone who goes away regularly will tell you is rare"
"At times the noise was hurting my ears. I've been going away a long time and that was loud"
"Agree with the OP. It was deafening"
Beautiful. Well done boys and girls. I hoped at half time everyone could shake the nerves and roar them over the line and we did. It sounds cheesy and cliche but attacking a packed Holte really does make a difference, it implores the players to attack and bays for a goal. Agree with Ads, you could tell second half the ground was on the verge of exploding if we'd scored.
Loved the rallying atmosphere last 15 minutes aswell. The claret and blue army chants all around the ground were superb.
What website is that from?
I thought it was the best atmosphere I'd ever heard at Vila Park.
I was walking to the ground via the estates and then down the side of the school and you could hear the noise a mile away pre-kick off. Singing going on in the queue to get in the Holte, good noise when we came out and generally through the first half.
Second half it just went up exponentially in volume. There was a point where nigh on the entire ground was stood up and belting it out and if Grabban's effort had gone in then ear drums would have been ruptured.
Towards the end, where everybody was stood up [including us at the front of the upper Holte] and just constantly belting out the songs, it was loud as fuck. One of those occasions where it must have been incredibly intimidating to be in the away end and just be drowned out on a sea of noise. Sort of reminded me of the semi against Liverpool when with 5 minutes to go, there was this guttural roar from our end and we saw them home.
I didn't think we were quiet at all really, fantastic atmosphere, especially when it was a 0-0.
Yeah, the atmosphere was electric, anyone suggesting it was quiet is either deaf or talking bollocks.
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Nerve wracking night, but we were the better team and deserved it. One match away from the Premier League.
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What was the banner hung from the roof of the Hole End? Was it unfurled, what did it say? Couldn't see it from upper Trinity.
I don't think that it was unfurled but I was sent this pic from earlier in the day
(https://thumb.ibb.co/kVKPDy/Flag_Capture.jpg) (https://ibb.co/kVKPDy)
I was really concerned that it would come down after the game and say something tacky like "See you at Wembley"
However, I was hoping that it said "Feck You Downing"
E ARE VILL
Thanks Sox.
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(https://thumb.ibb.co/iYkO6J/32750608_10156422834586913_2341354108054667264_n.jpg) (https://ibb.co/iYkO6J)
May be a few more tickets available for the final.
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(https://thumb.ibb.co/iYkO6J/32750608_10156422834586913_2341354108054667264_n.jpg) (https://ibb.co/iYkO6J)
May be a few more tickets available for the final.
Good.
I might be a miserable old bastard but anyone who they can identify as being on the pitch should not get a Wembley ticket, as a minimum.
The club pleaded with people not to break the law, but they still chose to.
I watched the end of the game when I got in and after the final whistle there were people strolling around the pitch like they were taking a Sunday afternoon stroll. Whole fucking families in some instances.
If they cant obey the law, or at least the request of the club the profess to love, then fuck ‘em all.
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Highlights (http://www.skysports.com/football/a-villa-vs-mboro/389235)
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Try www.goalsarena.org mate. It usually has all goals and highlights of Villa games from sky.
Cheers. I will bookmark this.
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A thoroughly professional performance by players and coaching staff.
I thought it was interesting that the pitch invasion appeared to be led from the Witton Lane stand (at least to me in the Upper Holte) by a girl who looked about 11.
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May be a few more tickets available for the final.
Good.
I might be a miserable old bastard but anyone who they can identify as being on the pitch should not get a Wembley ticket, as a minimum.
The club pleaded with people not to break the law, but they still chose to.
I watched the end of the game when I got in and after the final whistle there were people strolling around the pitch like they were taking a Sunday afternoon stroll. Whole fucking families in some instances.
If they cant obey the law, or at least the request of the club the profess to love, then fuck ‘em all.
Can they also ban people who smoke those fucking electronic cigarettes whilst in their seats?
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May be a few more tickets available for the final.
Good.
I might be a miserable old bastard but anyone who they can identify as being on the pitch should not get a Wembley ticket, as a minimum.
The club pleaded with people not to break the law, but they still chose to.
I watched the end of the game when I got in and after the final whistle there were people strolling around the pitch like they were taking a Sunday afternoon stroll. Whole fucking families in some instances.
If they cant obey the law, or at least the request of the club the profess to love, then fuck ‘em all.
I can almost understand it if it's an immediate rush of blood to the head following a really tight match and an emotion of euphoria takes over. But, there were people queuing up to get on!
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What is the fascination with running on the pitch anyway? I must admit I did go on after the Blackburn semi but got 10 paces on took a picture and walked off again, I’d hardly call it the most exciting moment of my life.
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Were boro singing where you were when you were shit after the game?
No that was most of the upper tier at the lower tier invading the pitch.
Yep, have some decorum lower tier, we've beaten boro in a championship playoff semi, no more no less.
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Tbh the pitch invasion made the whole post-match celebrations extremely anti-climactic. The music went off and the banner (which I now realise wouldn’t of come down anyway) stayed where it was. It then turned into a booing session from the Holte while a load of people paraded on the pitch like we’d won the Prem. All a bit strange really and took the gloss of what had up to that point been a great night.
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I didn’t run on the pitch but so what? It didn’t ruin or take the gloss off the night. People take things way too serious. We’ve got to Wembley and people want to celebrate. Good luck to them.
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I was irritated about the pitch invasion, more from the perspective of player safety and the inevitable fine. However, I wouldn't want to see 1-2,000 people banned because of a bit of euphoria.
Of course those goading the Fulham fans or hassling their players can fuck right off to the sty.
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agree with the above.
I was in the lower Holte, and I think it just goes to prove them articles around the pitch wearing tango coats, are about as much use as a chocolate tea pot . I saw one make an effort to keep the idiots off the pitch, the rest did nothing. it was obvious it was going to happen as there was a swell of people to the front in the last 5 minutes.
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I don't really mind the invasion. I think it's a bit naff, but I reckon the players, many of whom have got used to being ridiculed in recent years, will have enjoyed getting their chance to be heroes.
That said, the pyro is lame, and potentially dangerous, and people whose first thought after getting through to a vital final is to go and wind up the opposition are no better than Small Heathens.
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Thought we contained them well all night bar the Johnstone opportunity and the subsequent free kick. He's not save a shot again.
Pulis will never change. To bring Bamford on and then shunt him wide for Gestede is just cowardice.
Shame Grabban didn't score. The place was like a powder keg second half and would have gone off if we'd have scored. Second half in particular the whole ground was incredibly loud.
Final point about the pitch invaders- they absolutely ruined it
Utter morons.
Pretty much with you on this summary Ads.
A goal would have made the ground crumble I think.
Disappointed at the pitch invasion as I think it curtailed the celebrations - great for the people on the pitch but shit for the rest of us who wanted to applaud the players properly.
I was very near the back of the Holte so not so easy to gauge the atmosphere (only 4-5 rows behind me, so different to being 20 rows lower and surrounded by sound) but the second half did feel very loud, louder even than Wolves.
Strangely i thought the build up to kick off was muted and was amazed how late the ground filled.
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Thought we contained them well all night bar the Johnstone opportunity and the subsequent free kick. He's not save a shot again.
Pulis will never change. To bring Bamford on and then shunt him wide for Gestede is just cowardice.
Shame Grabban didn't score. The place was like a powder keg second half and would have gone off if we'd have scored. Second half in particular the whole ground was incredibly loud.
Final point about the pitch invaders- they absolutely ruined it
Utter morons.
Pretty much with you on this summary Ads.
A goal would have made the ground crumble I think.
Disappointed at the pitch invasion as I think it curtailed the celebrations - great for the people on the pitch but shit for the rest of us who wanted to applaud the players properly.
I was very near the back of the Holte so not so easy to gauge the atmosphere (only 4-5 rows behind me, so different to being 20 rows lower and surrounded by sound) but the second half did feel very loud, louder even than Wolves.
Strangely i thought the build up to kick off was muted and was amazed how late the ground filled.
I looked in on a Boro forum and on the whole they're a decent bunch who didn't seem to be blaming the ref,the pitch or anything except for pulis's negativity. Some of them said they couldn't believe how quiet the ground was. Could be sour grapes could be acoustics but I thought the atmosphere was cauldronesque at times. From my seat in the Trinity lower I thought the Holte was as loud as I've ever heard it.
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From the Boro forum:
"The atmosphere tonight was almost literally deafening, which anyone who goes away regularly will tell you is rare"
"At times the noise was hurting my ears. I've been going away a long time and that was loud"
"Agree with the OP. It was deafening"
Beautiful. Well done boys and girls. I hoped at half time everyone could shake the nerves and roar them over the line and we did. It sounds cheesy and cliche but attacking a packed Holte really does make a difference, it implores the players to attack and bays for a goal. Agree with Ads, you could tell second half the ground was on the verge of exploding if we'd scored.
Loved the rallying atmosphere last 15 minutes aswell. The claret and blue army chants all around the ground were superb.
Where is the link for those quotes, please?
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I think I heard the Boro fans twice. They may have been singing, but couldn't hear them.
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Atmosphere was one of the best I've experienced at VP for quite a while.
I was surprised because - when all is said and done - it was a game that we should have won, and it is only the conduit to a final play-off game.
The team showed discipline and purpose: I thought Snodgrass was exceptional in his effort and resolve, and I thought the whole team put ina shift, created some convertible chances and defended well when required.
I thought Boro came out to intimidate us, putting in some questionable challenges and I don't really understand why they didn't pick up more bookings. Friend's studs-up challenge on Johnstone should have been punished more severely IMHO, and Grealish and Snodgrass were targeted. Dean had a typically inconsistent game.
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Tbh the pitch invasion made the whole post-match celebrations extremely anti-climactic. The music went off and the banner (which I now realise wouldn’t of come down anyway) stayed where it was. It then turned into a booing session from the Holte while a load of people paraded on the pitch like we’d won the Prem. All a bit strange really and took the gloss of what had up to that point been a great night.
I felt exactly like this, but I have had a word with myself quite honestly. We wait and wait for exuberant moments, and it's sad if when we get one we decide its 'small time' to celebrate.
I also thought that it was OK for those on the pitch but rubbish for the rest of us, but that was my choice. It was the same for the previous pitch invasions after we got to Wembley in 2015 & 2010 - so my objection isn't really about being left out, it's about thinking it wasn't a good enough reason to be on the pitch. The truth is that lots of people thought it was.
This morning, seeing the pictures of players and fans celebrating on the pitch together, I am a bit cross with myself for being so angry about it last night and actually spoiling it for myself.
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I've already had an e-mail from Fulham about tickets as I always buy tickets for our game in the Neutral end and have been to the other odd game there.......my boss is a Fulham fan and doens't hink they'll sell out 38k.
I don't either despite it being ten minutes up the road. Fulham have hardcore support of about 15k. In the prem they got 25k due to increased away allocations and getting in tourists into that neutral section.
If so do the tickets get passed over or do we just get empty seats at the stadium
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Did I read recently that Chelsea were interested in signing Traore for a reported £30 million? If that is the case Jack must be worth £700 billion, he's streets ahead of Traore, his crossing and decision making is atrocious.
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From the Boro forum:
"The atmosphere tonight was almost literally deafening, which anyone who goes away regularly will tell you is rare"
"At times the noise was hurting my ears. I've been going away a long time and that was loud"
"Agree with the OP. It was deafening"
Beautiful. Well done boys and girls. I hoped at half time everyone could shake the nerves and roar them over the line and we did. It sounds cheesy and cliche but attacking a packed Holte really does make a difference, it implores the players to attack and bays for a goal. Agree with Ads, you could tell second half the ground was on the verge of exploding if we'd scored.
Loved the rallying atmosphere last 15 minutes aswell. The claret and blue army chants all around the ground were superb.
Where is the link for those quotes, please?
https://fansonline.net/middlesbrough/mb/view.php?id=5626206
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few thoughts on last night
Jedinak was fantastic pity the fella isn't 5 years younger,
i was seated 4 rows back and up close i never appreciated what a big imposing unit he is, not big in a James Collins or Richard Dunne way but in a more athletic way, he was my MOTM
the ground was bouncing in every stand, no way people can say any other,
i honesty believe that when we turn up on occasions like that its right up there with Anfield and Celtic when they have there special nights i don't think many other clubs can do it in this country with the fan base and traditional historic ground
Bruce did what he does, he found a way to get through, a single goal over two legs is what got us over the line,
Fulham are better than us, the league table tells us that but it doesn't mean we cant beat them,
two things give me a lot of hope, they bottled it against Blues when they needed to win to get automatic promotion, and our victory over Wolves we will have to play something like that to win,
we need to overcome the odds on that day somehow but we can do it
never been a John Terry as a person fan, but seeing him mobbed lat night on the pitch i thought he would never ever have experienced that at Chelsea and he was loving it,
the thing i like about him the most is his commitment to the cause, he's not just here collecting wages and going through the motions like some modern day football mercenary, he's one of us warts and all
Jack was Jack the best player in the championship and a lot of the Premiership
re the pitch invasion, its not big and its not clever
(any of my fb mates on here just stay quiet)
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anyone else surprised by the official attendance? Apart from the small block of seats separating fans between the North Lower and those in the corner of the DE the ground looked rammed to me?
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I can’t complain I as I have been on the pitch when we beat Bradford in a league game but it did deny the rest of us the opportunity to applaud the players for their effort, some, perhaps a lot of them for the final time.
Even so, a memorable night
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anyone else surprised by the official attendance? Apart from the small block of seats separating fans between the North Lower and those in the corner of the DE the ground looked rammed to me?
Roughly 2200 empty seats? I can't believe those figures are accurate but how and why would that happen?
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From the Boro forum:
"The atmosphere tonight was almost literally deafening, which anyone who goes away regularly will tell you is rare"
"At times the noise was hurting my ears. I've been going away a long time and that was loud"
"Agree with the OP. It was deafening"
Beautiful. Well done boys and girls. I hoped at half time everyone could shake the nerves and roar them over the line and we did. It sounds cheesy and cliche but attacking a packed Holte really does make a difference, it implores the players to attack and bays for a goal. Agree with Ads, you could tell second half the ground was on the verge of exploding if we'd scored.
Loved the rallying atmosphere last 15 minutes aswell. The claret and blue army chants all around the ground were superb.
Where is the link for those quotes, please?
https://fansonline.net/middlesbrough/mb/view.php?id=5626206
Many thanks.
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The capacity figure includes all corporate seats, press and the boxes... didn't we give Boro only 2000 tickets too?
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The capacity figure includes all corporate seats, press and the boxes... didn't we give Boro only 2000 tickets too?
I didn’t know that attendance figures included media
A few empty rows/columns of seats in the away area
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Bree started nervously but really grew into the game.
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Probably the loudest atmosphere I've ever been in. Wouldn't necessarily say it was the best as it was so tense. A goal would have been great, the roof would've come off. Pitch invasion did make the post-match a bit anti-climactic but I don't hold it against those on the pitch. It's what we do when we get to Wembley.
As for the match, I think they'd have been pleased at half time but fortunately we kicked on second half rather than them. Big scare at end, Johnstone saved us really, illegally, and got away with it. Would've been harsh on us if free kick went in. Jedinak was great and has to play in the final for me. Defence were all good, Bree improved after a shaky start. It's incredible how important Hutton's become considering some aspects of his career with us. Grealish is the best player in the division. Everyone else worked their socks off.
On to Fulham. They're a better team than us, the table doesn't lie, but not that much better. Hope we rise to the occasion more. UTV
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The capacity figure includes all corporate seats, press and the boxes... didn't we give Boro only 2000 tickets too?
I didn’t know that attendance figures included media
A few empty rows/columns of seats in the away area
600 less in the home/corporate areas than there was for sha, no idea where as both were sell-outs.
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On that Boro site linked above, a few are saying they didn’t sell what we did give them.
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The capacity figure includes all corporate seats, press and the boxes... didn't we give Boro only 2000 tickets too?
I didn’t know that attendance figures included media
A few empty rows/columns of seats in the away area
The capacity does (well at Villa Park anyway).
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On that Boro site linked above, a few are saying they didn’t sell what we did give them.
Sold out straight away as for some reason they put them straight on sale to ST holders I think, no away criteria needed. Imagine doing every away game and then missing out on that one (although with hindsight etc).
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That’s strange as they are reporting rows of empty seats in the away end.
Fair play to the Boro fans as well, they were pretty magmanamous in defeat outside afterward.
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That’s strange as they are reporting rows of empty seats in the away end.
Fair play to the Boro fans as well, they were pretty magmanamous in defeat outside afterward.
There will be as they have same size area as every other away side has but instead of the usual 2700 (I think we give) they were only given 2000.
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I didn’t realise that, on the face of it that seems both short sighted and spiteful then.
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First couple of rows were cordoned off. There was also a bigger segreation than usual.
Also a few rows in top tier were left empty, that bid by the big screen must be restricted view.
Was still surprised it was below 41k so around 1k empty seats in the other three stands, Holte end was rammed.
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I didn’t run on the pitch but so what? It didn’t ruin or take the gloss off the night. People take things way too serious. We’ve got to Wembley and people want to celebrate. Good luck to them.
I wanted to applaud the players for a very good job over 180 minutes and getting us to Wembley as I presume they'd have done that at the final whistle like usual.
Wasn't going to wait 20 minutes for the pitch to be cleared and them to possibly come out.
Running on the pitch for something like this is small time, I could understand that it more if we were 1st or 2nd but we could easily lose the final ffs. It's a bit like the debate of whether we should have trophy parade for winning play offs. Most think we shouldn't which I agree with and running on the pitch is probably worse.
We are better than this or used to be.
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Who's going on the pitch at Wembley then? ;D
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Agreed, if we manage to get up it should be treated as retaining our rightful place after a minor blip of a few years, not any kind of major achievement.
And let us never forget that looking down our noses at things like this wind up our neighbours no end, which is reason enough to carry on doing it. Local arrogance is our God given right.
Promotion, if it happens this season or next, should be marked with a firm handshake and no more. Leave the open top bus parades for those who don’t really deserve to be in the top flight.
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Bree started nervously but really grew into the game.
I think Bree matured as the game went on.
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Bree started nervously but really grew into the game.
I think Bree matured as the game went on.
This isn't on, Aftab. Cheese puns, after last night? Perhaps your senses have been diminished from age.
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A trophy parade? I still don't understand why there's a fucking trophy for it anyway. "I'm a different kind of winner".
They were bollocks when some twat invented them thirty years ago, and they're still a load of bollocks now. Possibly more so now with a wembley final tacked on, rather than the original two-legged affair. Us being involved doesn't change my opinion. If anything, it hardens it, us being dragged into the tawdry voyeuristic Sky winner-takes-all wankfest.
Then again, no more farcical than a team finishing fourth getting to compete in something called The Champions League.
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Agreed, if we manage to get up it should be treated as retaining our rightful place after a minor blip of a few years, not any kind of major achievement.
And let us never forget that looking down our noses at things like this wind up our neighbours no end, which is reason enough to carry on doing it. Local arrogance is our God given right.
Promotion, if it happens this season or next, should be marked with a firm handshake and no more. Leave the open top bus parades for those who don’t really deserve to be in the top flight.
How about a mass walk-out Arsenal style, before the trophy is presented. That'll show 'em.
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A mass walk out implies some organisation and therefore an acknowledgement that it’s an achievement to attain promotion, even if we acknowledge it by distancing ourselves. It should therefore be frowned upon. The Premiership is lucky that we are close to returning to it.
Pinch yourselves.
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Hopefully we’ll get a few thousand tickets Re allocated to us if Fulham don’t sell out?
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A trophy parade? I still don't understand why there's a fucking trophy for it anyway. "I'm a different kind of winner".
They were bollocks when some twat invented them thirty years ago, and they're still a load of bollocks now. Possibly more so now with a wembley final tacked on, rather than the original two-legged affair. Us being involved doesn't change my opinion. If anything, it hardens it, us being dragged into the tawdry voyeuristic Sky winner-takes-all wankfest.
Then again, no more farcical than a team finishing fourth getting to compete in something called The Champions League.
Cardiff actually got a trophy for finishing second this season. They gave one out a few years back when one of the second place teams complained about not getting any sort of recognition for finishing above team that wins the play off.
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Sha got one as well. It was one of those 'at least you tried' types that schools give to the fat ginger kids that always finish last.
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Hmm, direct 12 hour flights leaving Tokyo on the 24th, flying back on the 27th are just under £900.
Villa or prolonged marriage? That is the quandary.
There are plenty of fish in the sea. 😜
There are indeed, mate. None that would put up with me on a day to day basis, however. Haha.
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Hopefully we’ll get a few thousand tickets Re allocated to us if Fulham don’t sell out?
That'll only work if they initally prevent Fulham fans buying tickets in the sections adjacent to the Villa area.
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They tend to sell them moving round from one side to the other to make it easier to give the other team more tickets should one team not sell out. They messed up in 2008 by giving Leeds and Doncaster 36k. Doncaster only sold 24k and Leeds fans were in large numbers in the Doncaster end. Donny had to suspend ticket sales but Leeds weren't given any more.
In 2016 Wednesday were given more tickets when Hull only sold around 25k. Wednesday had 40k+ there.
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Sha got one as well. It was one of those 'at least you tried' types that schools give to the fat ginger kids that always finish last.
What's this, I never got one!
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Hopefully we’ll get a few thousand tickets Re allocated to us if Fulham don’t sell out?
That'll only work if they initally prevent Fulham fans buying tickets in the sections adjacent to the Villa area.
Anyone with a booking history in their neutral bit can buy 5 and plenty have....
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I know a lot of this is tongue in cheek, but if people want to celebrate what would be a massively important achievement for the club, then let them enjoy themselves. Sport is meant to be about enjoyment after all and now winning anything of significance is largely reserved to the elite few, clubs should be allowed - indeed encouraged - to celebrate success when they can.
I'd add that this shouldn't extend to running on the pitch after a semi final, which is really the preserve of bellends.
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Sha got one as well. It was one of those 'at least you tried' types that schools give to the fat ginger kids that always finish last.
What's this, I never got one!
Nor me. I usually got a pat on the head and my hair ruffled sympathetically followed by the phrase "bless him"
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It all was a bit silly
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So how many tickets have we got to start with?
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Pretty much anybody who wants a ticket will get one, I reckon.
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Sha got one as well. It was one of those 'at least you tried' types that schools give to the fat ginger kids that always finish last.
What's this, I never got one!
Nor me. I usually got a pat on the head and my hair ruffled sympathetically followed by the phrase "bless him"
Mind you, I come from an era when you didn't cry if you lost or you were not told you might be psychologically scarred by losing.
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Hopefully we’ll get a few thousand tickets Re allocated to us if Fulham don’t sell out?
That'll only work if they initally prevent Fulham fans buying tickets in the sections adjacent to the Villa area.
Anyone with a booking history in their neutral bit can buy 5 and plenty have....
Except if it was against us.
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Hmm, direct 12 hour flights leaving Tokyo on the 24th, flying back on the 27th are just under £900.
Villa or prolonged marriage? That is the quandary.
There are plenty of fish in the sea. 😜
There are indeed, mate. None that would put up with me on a day to day basis, however. Haha.
You need to think of a rare gift for her that is only available in London.
A duty free Toblerone?
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A Royal Wedding tea towel?
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A plastic version of Megan's engagement ring?
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So how many tickets have we got to start with?
Good, I hope so. It will be a bit of a wasted flight if I don't get one now...
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Hopefully we’ll get a few thousand tickets Re allocated to us if Fulham don’t sell out?
That'll only work if they initally prevent Fulham fans buying tickets in the sections adjacent to the Villa area.
Anyone with a booking history in their neutral bit can buy 5 and plenty have....
Just looked at their website and at the moment it’s only on sale to Fulham ST holders.
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Hopefully we’ll get a few thousand tickets Re allocated to us if Fulham don’t sell out?
That'll only work if they initally prevent Fulham fans buying tickets in the sections adjacent to the Villa area.
Anyone with a booking history in their neutral bit can buy 5 and plenty have....
Just looked at their website and at the moment it’s only on sale to Fulham ST holders.
Fulham have sold c24,000 tickets so far ALL to season ticket holders who can buy a max of 5. Booking history buyers can’t buy until Sunday.
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Sorry, I was taking the piss yesterday after the furore about their ticket arrangements.
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There was a pitch invasion against Sunderland in 75, Middlesbrough 81, Coventry 89, Norwich 90, Chelsea 91, Tranmere 94, Arsenal 96, Blackburn 2010, Albion 2015. Why are were people booing and singing 'where you were when we were shit? These type of supporters who were booing the supporters who ran on are non Birmingham non midland Aston villa fans. It's not compulsory to run on, but boo to your who own fans on for running on the pitch is embarrassing, anyone can support Aston villa, but you should respect the identity of Aston villa and the fans which is working class north Birmingham.
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Aston Villa. Bit of respect please.
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Aston Villa. Bit of respect please.
I'm not sure you're permitted to comment Chris. You don't live in the Midlands and your job isn't manual enough.
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Doesn’t sound like anyone can support Aston Villa.
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There was a pitch invasion against Sunderland in 75, Middlesbrough 81, Coventry 89, Norwich 90, Chelsea 91, Tranmere 94, Arsenal 96, Blackburn 2010, Albion 2015. Why are were people booing and singing 'where you were when we were shit? These type of supporters who were booing the supporters who ran on are non Birmingham non midland Aston villa fans. It's not compulsory to run on, but boo to your who own fans on for running on the pitch is embarrassing, anyone can support Aston villa, but you should respect the identity of Aston villa and the fans which is working class north Birmingham.
I love it when people explain why they're proper fans and anyone who disagrees isn't.
Glad that you specified "non Birmingham non midland Aston villa fans" (sic). Wouldn't want any of those Alabama twats escaping criticism.
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Doesn’t sound like anyone can support Aston Villa.
Aston Villa FC represents North Birmingham working class people in the football stakes, im not saying everyone has to conform to North Birmingham working class ways but non Brummie and non midlanders shouldn't try and steer us away from our traits.
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Aston Villa. Bit of respect please.
I'm not sure you're permitted to comment Chris. You don't live in the Midlands and your job isn't manual enough.
Good point Richard, I apologise.
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Is avfcpride a post that has been lost in cyberspace since the fifties?
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Great Barr, Erdington, Kingstanding, have the most potent working class heritage and identity with Aston Villa, they are a prime example of our supporters should be.
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Doesn’t sound like anyone can support Aston Villa.
Aston Villa FC represents North Birmingham working class people in the football stakes, im not saying everyone has to conform to North Birmingham working class ways but non Brummie and non midlanders shouldn't try and steer us away from our traits.
I'm gonna go out on a limb...
Leave voter?
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Doesn’t sound like anyone can support Aston Villa.
Aston Villa FC represents North Birmingham working class people in the football stakes, im not saying everyone has to conform to North Birmingham working class ways but non Brummie and non midlanders shouldn't try and steer us away from our traits.
You are an idiot.
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Doesn’t sound like anyone can support Aston Villa.
Aston Villa FC represents North Birmingham working class people in the football stakes, im not saying everyone has to conform to North Birmingham working class ways but non Brummie and non midlanders shouldn't try and steer us away from our traits.
I'm gonna go out on a limb...
Leave voter?
Someone whose not bracketed easily, and some one with an identity. You ever been in a pub in Erdington, Kingstanding, Witton non match day.
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All three, thanks bab.
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Can we have a poll please?
Who is the bestest and biggest Aston Villa supporter who meets all the criteria to support the club?
avfc pride or somebody else.
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I vote for avfc pride. In fact, I'd like it if "avfc pride" was made into an annual parade.
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I vote for avfc pride. In fact, I'd like it if "avfc pride" was made into an annual parade.
a claret and blue rainbow?
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A claret and blue, working class, rainbow.
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We need a ‘sitting or standing at Wembley ‘? poll.
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Doesn’t sound like anyone can support Aston Villa.
Aston Villa FC represents North Birmingham working class people in the football stakes, im not saying everyone has to conform to North Birmingham working class ways but non Brummie and non midlanders shouldn't try and steer us away from our traits.
You are an idiot.
why and how?
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I wonder how many times a week he changes the string that holds his trousers up?
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We could name them middle class or working class sections.
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I wonder how many times a week he changes the string that holds his trousers up?
Trousers? LUXURY.
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We could name them middle class or working class sections.
or the no identity Gurdian reading wanker section.
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I wonder how many times a week he changes the string that holds his trousers up?
Trousers? LUXURY.
Sincere apologies. I stand rebuked.
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We could name them middle class or working class sections.
or the no identity Gurdian reading wanker section.
Are working class people not allowed to read the ‘Gurdian’?
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We could name them middle class or working class sections.
or the no identity Gurdian reading wanker section.
Are working class people not allowed to read the ‘Gurdian’?
I used know nuff mans from nechells and Aston from school days who used to listen to slack lyric, from buju.
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Great Barr, Erdington, Kingstanding, have the most potent working class heritage and identity with Aston Villa, they are a prime example of our supporters should be.
I'm fucked then. I'm from Aston!
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We could name them middle class or working class sections.
or the no identity Gurdian reading wanker section.
Are working class people not allowed to read the ‘Gurdian’?
fifth colum rag.
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Great Barr, Erdington, Kingstanding, have the most potent working class heritage and identity with Aston Villa, they are a prime example of our supporters should be.
I'm fucked then. I'm from Aston!
You Plastic Glory Hunting middle class traitor.
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buju banton
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*Buju Banton
Don't they have schools in North Brum?
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*Buju Banton
Don't they have schools in North Brum?
why do you want to deprive people of an education, so they don't use their vote?
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They're so working class they don't bother with shizzle like books and learning. They just dig coal and invade pitches all day like real men.
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*Buju Banton
Don't they have schools in North Brum?
why do you want to deprive people of an education, so they don't use their vote?
(http://www.nzedge.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/HowBizarre.jpg)
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They look like blues fans.
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They look like blues fans.
It’s too big a crowd for Blose.
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They look like blues fans.
Take my advice, bud, and give up on this.
You've entered an argument you will never win ::)
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They look like blues fans.
Take my advice, bud, and give up on this.
You've entered an argument you will never win ::)
they do look like blues fans the ones who mug women on the ramp up town.
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They're not dressed very discretely for muggers. I'd choose something less likely to make me stand out.
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We could name them middle class or working class sections.
or the no identity Gurdian reading wanker section.
Are working class people not allowed to read the ‘Gurdian’?
I used know nuff mans from nechells and Aston from school days who used to listen to slack lyric, from buju.
I married a girl from Newtown and have a Buju Banton album, what this has to do with anything is beyond me.
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I have applied to the Council to move me to North Birmingham.
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Bree started nervously but really grew into the game.
I think Bree matured as the game went on.
This isn't on, Aftab. Cheese puns, after last night? Perhaps your senses have been diminished from age.
I feel totally grated that you are doubting efficiency of my faculties SE :-[
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I have applied to the Council to move me to North Birmingham.
Plastic fan.
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Yes but for Gurdian it’s colum.
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I have applied to the Council to move me to North Birmingham.
Plastic fan.
Yes guilty as charged.
Anyway does anyone know if I can buy the Gurdian in north Birmingham if the council do manage to move me there?
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I have applied to the Council to move me to North Birmingham.
Plastic fan.
Yes guilty as charged.
Anyway does anyone know if I can buy the Gurdian in north Birmingham if the council do manage to move me there?
You'll be placed in the north Birmingham area known as "The no identity Gurdian reading wanker ghetto".
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I have applied to the Council to move me to North Birmingham.
Plastic fan.
Yeah, I love plastic too! It's great*.
*except when it does nasty things to cute sea creatures, obviously.
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Can we just ban him again, the great plum?
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Are you trying to start a class war?
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Are you trying to start a class war?
The ruling class started the class war. We are the resistance.