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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: andyh on April 14, 2018, 06:42:06 PM
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Is it time for this now?
We aren’t going to finish lower than 4th.
First leg for team in 4th is away on Saturday 12th May 5:15 pm
Home leg for team in 4th is Tuesday 15th May 7:45pm
The final is May 26th 5:00 pm kick off.
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Am convinced we should win the semi as the better team generally wins over two legs. The final though another kettle of fish which I am worried over
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2nd leg at home is important, which is what we'll have. Would rather finish 4th and have the away leg at 5:15 on the Saturday instead of the Friday night.
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2nd leg at home is important, which is what we'll have. Would rather finish 4th and have the away leg at 5:15 on the Saturday instead of the Friday night.
Yes we'd get a better crowd
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2nd leg at home is important, which is what we'll have. Would rather finish 4th and have the away leg at 5:15 on the Saturday instead of the Friday night.
Yes we'd get a better crowd
But they might be quiet.
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Am convinced we should win the semi as the better team generally wins over two legs. The final though another kettle of fish which I am worried over
In the same boat.
All our no shows at Wembley are bugging me a bit.
Yes it's not the FA cup final but the play off final has become a massive occasion in its own right and not sure if we'd come out with the right mentality given all the pressure would be on us.
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Did you know Fulham have never won a play off game?
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At the start of the season we had a 1 in 12 chance of automatic promotion - we now have a 1 in 4 chance in the play offs -
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Did you know Fulham have never won a play off game?
Neither have we.
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Did you know Fulham have never won a play off game?
That's not really impressive without any context though isn't it?
If that's from ten matches then it's pretty interesting. If they've been knocked out in the semi-finals once or twice, then it's not hugely different to Villa never having won a playoff game...
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I was only saying.
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So was I. ;)
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Boro in the semi final followed by Cardiff at Wembley - I've got a good vibe about this - Villa are on the way back !!!!!
Shall I book my hotel for London now?
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The 27th May is " Trinity Sunday" - another sign?
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The 27th May is " Trinity Sunday" - another sign?
Finals on the Sat 26th mate
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The 27th May is " Trinity Sunday" - another sign?
Finals on the Sat 26th mate
Rotterdam Day.
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The 27th May is " Trinity Sunday" - another sign?
Finals on the Sat 26th mate
Rotterdam Day.
Semi Dates?
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The 27th May is " Trinity Sunday" - another sign?
Finals on the Sat 26th mate
yes I know !!!!
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The 27th May is " Trinity Sunday" - another sign?
Finals on the Sat 26th mate
yes I know !!!!
Ohhhhhhhh I get you now !!! sorry
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One thing we need is a full house. A rocking Villa park could see us over the line. price the game accordingly.
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May 26 1982 Rotterdam Day
May 26 1987 I met the current Mrs VCTM at the Robin Hood
May 26 2018 Villa return back to their rightful place in the top flight
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Sorry to piss on everybody chips but I’ve always thought that we wouldn’t even get to the final. Defeat in two leg against whoever. I know, miserable bugger. It’s how we have performed in ‘big’ games away, generally poorly.
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During the playoffs and certainly at Wembley John Terry will decide who goes up.
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I can’t decide if us having loads of old players is a good thing, for experience, or bad as we’ll be knackered.
Lately we have looked to be running out of steam a bit, although we have a less crowded schedule of matches coming up.
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During the playoffs and certainly at Wembley John Terry will decide who goes up.
And he’s on our side
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During the playoffs and certainly at Wembley John Terry will decide who goes up.
This is our not-so-secret weapon that has me feeling significantly more confident than I would otherwise
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Looks like it will be playoffs, but I’m still holding hope for 2nd spot. You just never know. As my mate says: ya gotta believe!!
Rather get Cardiff than Fulham in the final, as we’ve shown recently we can beat them. Avoiding Millwall in the semis would be great for lots of reasons, not least that they are in great form currently.
I think we’ll go up one way or the other.
I’d love to be there at the final at Wembley, but my recent(ish) attendance track record is not good- Chelsea 2000 and arsenal 2015. Think I’ll stay in Aus for this if it happens and celebrate in the pub!
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We win our last three. (88)
Fulham win one and draw two. (87)
Cardiff win one, draw two and lose one. (88)
We finish 2nd on goal difference.
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We win our last three. (88)
Fulham win one and draw two. (87)
Cardiff win one, draw two and lose one. (88)
We finish 2nd on goal difference.
Cardiff have Forest and Reading at home and Hull and Derby away. Talk me through what results you think for those games.
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We win our last three. (88)
Fulham win one and draw two. (87)
Cardiff win one, draw two and lose one. (88)
We finish 2nd on goal difference.
Cardiff have Forest and Reading at home and Hull and Derby away. Talk me through what results you think for those games.
This has been our mistake on the other thread - looking at other team's games.
We will not win our last three games.
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Be surprised if we finish with less than 7. Millwall will either be unable to make the Play Offs or will likely be resting players.
And even if they're not, we'd beat Cardiff lite.
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I would have snapped your hand off for a play off position before the season started and we did it with 3 games to spare, we might have a few old un's but I'm convinced those old un's in pressure cooker atmospheres will get us over the line and into the premier league.
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The 27th May is " Trinity Sunday" - another sign?
Finals on the Sat 26th mate
It’s fate
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I can’t decide if us having loads of old players is a good thing, for experience, or bad as we’ll be knackered.
Lately we have looked to be running out of steam a bit, although we have a less crowded schedule of matches coming up.
Yes, and ...
... I'm encouraged that over the last 2 games Whelan - one of our older, more knackered players - has played well and with some energy.
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We win our last three. (88)
Fulham win one and draw two. (87)
Cardiff win one, draw two and lose one. (88)
We finish 2nd on goal difference.
Cardiff have Forest and Reading at home and Hull and Derby away. Talk me through what results you think for those games.
This has been our mistake on the other thread - looking at other team's games.
We will not win our last three games.
Why shouldn't the other teams drop sufficient points in their remaining games ? They may or may not, Villa can't influence that I agree.
However the bit I'm really struggling with is saying we will not win our last three games. Not saying we definetely will but why shouldn't we ?
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If Fulham up short then they are due a bad run. Ideal time for them to dip now.
Even the woeful Leeds were unfortunate by all accounts against them.
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If Fulham up short then they are due a bad run. Ideal time for them to dip now.
Even the woeful Leeds were unfortunate by all accounts against them.
If Manchester City can have a bit of a late season wobble then Fulham certainly can.
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May 26 1982 Rotterdam Day
May 26 1987 I met the current Mrs VCTM at the Robin Hood
May 26 2018 Villa return back to their rightful place in the top flight
I couldn't tell you the exact date I met my wife, but it was in The Lincoln Poacher in Acocks Green in the summer of 1996.
May 22nd My wife's birthday
May 26th Rotterdam Day/Villa's play off final win
May 30th My son will be 17 this year. He spent his 14th birthday at Wembley with me watching us getting beaten by Arsenal in the FA cup final.
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The only reason I remember the date we met was that it coincided with the anniversary of Rotterdam Day !!!!
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I can’t decide if us having loads of old players is a good thing, for experience, or bad as we’ll be knackered.
Lately we have looked to be running out of steam a bit, although we have a less crowded schedule of matches coming up.
Will have to rotate the team a bit as semi final games are 74 hours apart.
We saw what happened after the Wolves game so hopefully lessons are learned after what will certainly be a tough away first leg.
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Be nice to take 3-4,000 to Middlesbrough rather than be restricted to 1,400 at Millwall in the semis.
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For the playoff final (which I hope we get to, if we don’t miraculously get 2nd!)... what are my chances of getting a ticket given I am not a ST holder and have no booking history?
Thanks.
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Boro in the semi final followed by Cardiff at Wembley - I've got a good vibe about this - Villa are on the way back !!!!!
Shall I book my hotel for London now?
You could, but only if you don't mind getting dog's abuse when it all goes the shape of a pear. ;)
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Be nice to take 3-4,000 to Middlesbrough rather than be restricted to 1,400 at Millwall in the semis.
What's with the away allocation at Scumwall? I'm assuming they only allow visiting supporters in the top tier of the stand - which begs the question: what the Hell's the point of them having seats in the lower portion?! If they can't provide adequate security to ensure the safety of away supporters in both sections, they shouldn't be allowed to hold matches at their shitty ground.
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Be nice to take 3-4,000 to Middlesbrough rather than be restricted to 1,400 at Millwall in the semis.
What's with the away allocation at Scumwall? I'm assuming they only allow visiting supporters in the top tier of the stand - which begs the question: what the Hell's the point of them having seats in the lower portion?! If they can't provide adequate security to ensure the safety of away supporters in both sections, they shouldn't be allowed to hold matches at their shitty ground.
The upper tier gives them enough to fulfil their minimum allocation. 1,400 sells out unbelievably quick – I'd got 10 aways this season and got nowhere near it. I'd much rather we had a semi final away with a big allocation, it just seems to lift the team that much more.
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Be nice to take 3-4,000 to Middlesbrough rather than be restricted to 1,400 at Millwall in the semis.
What's with the away allocation at Scumwall? I'm assuming they only allow visiting supporters in the top tier of the stand - which begs the question: what the Hell's the point of them having seats in the lower portion?! If they can't provide adequate security to ensure the safety of away supporters in both sections, they shouldn't be allowed to hold matches at their shitty ground.
The upper tier gives them enough to fulfil their minimum allocation. 1,400 sells out unbelievably quick – I'd got 10 aways this season and got nowhere near it. I'd much rather we had a semi final away with a big allocation, it just seems to lift the team that much more.
Thanks for the clarification (although I'm still perplexed as to why the FL allow them to extract the urine with such a pathetic allocation). Let's hope the last few matches see them fall apart - so nobody has to endure their neanderthal rubbish in the PO's.
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Really need us to finish third so I can make the playoff semi. Won't be able to go if we play on the Tuesday night which will be gutting. A 3-0 win for us and a 2-0 loss for Fulham puts it in our own hands, assuming we win all of our remaining games. Please! Pretty please!!
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We win our last three. (88)
Fulham win one and draw two. (87)
Cardiff win one, draw two and lose one. (88)
We finish 2nd on goal difference.
Cardiff have Forest and Reading at home and Hull and Derby away. Talk me through what results you think for those games.
This has been our mistake on the other thread - looking at other team's games.
We will not win our last three games.
My point is that regardless of the Villa results Cardiff will get at least 2 wins of 4 so our results are acedemic.
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Boro in the semi final followed by Cardiff at Wembley - I've got a good vibe about this - Villa are on the way back !!!!!
Shall I book my hotel for London now?
You could, but only if you don't mind getting dog's abuse when it all goes the shape of a pear. ;)
I know many who have booked hotel rooms. You can cancel your booking up to 24 hours before the date.
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Be nice to take 3-4,000 to Middlesbrough rather than be restricted to 1,400 at Millwall in the semis.
What's with the away allocation at Scumwall? I'm assuming they only allow visiting supporters in the top tier of the stand - which begs the question: what the Hell's the point of them having seats in the lower portion?! If they can't provide adequate security to ensure the safety of away supporters in both sections, they shouldn't be allowed to hold matches at their shitty ground.
The upper tier gives them enough to fulfil their minimum allocation. 1,400 sells out unbelievably quick – I'd got 10 aways this season and got nowhere near it. I'd much rather we had a semi final away with a big allocation, it just seems to lift the team that much more.
Thanks for the clarification (although I'm still perplexed as to why the FL allow them to extract the urine with such a pathetic allocation). Let's hope the last few matches see them fall apart - so nobody has to endure their neanderthal rubbish in the PO's.
Millwall is 2,000. It will be the same in the play offs (if they get there). League rules state that you must give away teams a minimum of 2,000.
People with 10 aways were able to but tickets for Millwall for about an hour on Thursday night after they went on sale at 5pm.
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Is it definitely:
3rd placed team playing on Friday & Monday
4th placed team playing Saturday and Tuesday?
I'm away that weekend and will definitely miss the first leg. I'm flying home on the Monday but would prefer the game to be on the Tuesday night.
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I’d say the chances are it will be boro in the semis
Millwall v Cardiff or Fulham in the other
Neither are easy but I’d rather have it that way around. I reckon Millwall could beat Fulham - we’ll find out this Friday
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We win our last three. (88)
Fulham win one and draw two. (87)
Cardiff win one, draw two and lose one. (88)
We finish 2nd on goal difference.
Cardiff have Forest and Reading at home and Hull and Derby away. Talk me through what results you think for those games.
This has been our mistake on the other thread - looking at other team's games.
We will not win our last three games.
My point is that regardless of the Villa results Cardiff will get at least 2 wins of 4 so our results are acedemic.
Agree. I was just posting generally, probably shouldn’t have quoted.
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It’s not over til it’s over.
Ya gotta Believe!!
We’ll be going up, one way or the other.
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Should be a piece of cake :o
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been reading H&V all season and before as well - posted a few as well before - however my cent to add now is maybe it is an omen last time in this division and Millwall and the Boro were in the mix. Up the Villa watching from China !
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I know Derby can still technically finish above us, but realistically it's all done. We're at home 2nd leg come what may and I'm not bothered who we play.
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been reading H&V all season and before as well - posted a few as well before - however my cent to add now is maybe it is an omen last time in this division and Millwall and the Boro were in the mix. Up the Villa watching from China !
I did think it’s stange that the last time we were challenging in the second tier, Millwall we’re doing well too (and we both ended up getting promoted).
Find watching the playoffs nervy even when Villa aren’t involved, God knows how I’ll cope
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been reading H&V all season and before as well - posted a few as well before - however my cent to add now is maybe it is an omen last time in this division and Millwall and the Boro were in the mix. Up the Villa watching from China !
Welcome Zhong. We are all respectful friends here.
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It’s not over til it’s over.
Ya gotta Believe!!
We’ll be going up, one way or the other.
More confidence than me - the play offs are a lottery
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Millwall-Fulham friday night should prove a big game in the whole mix. Fulham might be shaken after the Brentford set back. Millwall flying. I still think we can get second. The last two wins have been big ones and who knows it might lead to an up swing in our form once again. That is the beauty of the Championship, just when you think you are settling for a PO spot things can change.
If it is PO's I'd maybe like Cardiff or Millwall in the semis at least. Can see Boro being a tough fixture with Pulis and his experience. Tend to agree that final might be the more daunting possibility. If we go in with good form then I'd be quite confident. Hopefully the away form can pick up. Nothing wrong with the home form.
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If we get to Wembley and its a big if! how will Villa look to distribute tickets? I will be fine but my son works Saturdays so only has 6 home and 4 away this season. I couldn't imagine going without him.
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If we get to Wembley and its a big if! how will Villa look to distribute tickets? I will be fine but my son works Saturdays so only has 6 home and 4 away this season. I couldn't imagine going without him.
On the basis that the cup semi final went all the way down to general sale a couple of seasons ago, I wouldn't worry.
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If we get to Wembley and its a big if! how will Villa look to distribute tickets? I will be fine but my son works Saturdays so only has 6 home and 4 away this season. I couldn't imagine going without him.
On the basis that the cup semi final went all the way down to general sale a couple of seasons ago, I wouldn't worry.
And I’d think we’d get a lot more tickets than say an FA Cup final.
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Yes pretty sure some teams have taken 40k allocations for play off finals in the past although that's been when the other team hasn't had that big a support.
We'd get 30k + tickets so far more than an FA cup final.
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It’s not over til it’s over.
Ya gotta Believe!!
We’ll be going up, one way or the other.
More confidence than me - the play offs are a lottery
True dat. 1 bad ref decision or a mistake away from another season the the Championship.
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If we get to the final, we should get 40k, I’d have thought. Not so many hangers on for this game, in which case anyone who’s got any home games on their history for this season will get a ticket, as there hasn’t been more than 39k Villa fans at any home game this season.
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It's not the same 39k every time though.
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If we get to Wembley and its a big if! how will Villa look to distribute tickets? I will be fine but my son works Saturdays so only has 6 home and 4 away this season. I couldn't imagine going without him.
On the basis that the cup semi final went all the way down to general sale a couple of seasons ago, I wouldn't worry.
Nevermind the semi. The final went down to non season ticket holders
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If we end up in the play offs, i'd like to think all season ticket holders will get in free.
I'd sell the rest of the tickets at £20/£10 to ensure we get a full house and maybe add in the incentive of getting first dibs on the final should we get through as well.
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been reading H&V all season and before as well - posted a few as well before - however my cent to add now is maybe it is an omen last time in this division and Millwall and the Boro were in the mix. Up the Villa watching from China !
That's great! Welcome.
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It's not the same 39k every time though.
There’s an average of about 30-32k Villa fans at most games, which leaves plenty for floating fans, who’ve got a booking history, plus plenty don’t get the tickets allocated to their ref.
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Everybody always ends up with tickets for these games.
I doubt that anyone who wants to go will miss out.
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We could really do with Derby pulling their fingers out their arses for a couple of games. The idea of Pulis ball knocking us out of the playoffs would be the exclamation mark on the last 5-6 years for us. The cap wearing oaf. Horrible.
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We could really do with Derby pulling their fingers out their arses for a couple of games. The idea of Pulis ball knocking us out of the playoffs would be the exclamation mark on the last 5-6 years for us. The cap wearing oaf. Horrible.
Traore crossing for a last minute Gestede header.
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I know it's not the end of the world but if we fail in the play off''s it going to set us back a few years. Just one season in the prem will bring in the money we need and hopefully relieve the pressure on our owner to start developing us into a top class club once again. Another season in the championship with no money and possibly sales of our best players is not an attractive proposition.
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If we don't go up this year we won't go up next year. We'll be down here for years like Leeds.
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If we don’t go up this year I have serious doubts about us becoming one of the top clubs in Europe within the next three years or so.
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We could really do with Derby pulling their fingers out their arses for a couple of games. The idea of Pulis ball knocking us out of the playoffs would be the exclamation mark on the last 5-6 years for us. The cap wearing oaf. Horrible.
Traore crossing for a last minute Gestede header.
Gestede is out for the season.
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A Downing header. Even worse.
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Well, I’m booking May 15th off work.
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been reading H&V all season and before as well - posted a few as well before - however my cent to add now is maybe it is an omen last time in this division and Millwall and the Boro were in the mix. Up the Villa watching from China !
The last time we went up from this division it was on goals scored as we were level with Boro on points and goal difference. Then the following season a last minute Stuart Gray equaliser against them at Villa Park at the end of April was crucial as in the end only one point separated us and them in the final table with us staying up at their expense.
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I thought it was West Ham who ran us close for survival that season?
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I thought it was West Ham who ran us close for survival that season?
Due to the Hillsborough disaster West Ham had two games in hand to play at the end of the season after we had played all of ours (away to Forest and Liverpool). They went to Forest on a Thursday night and a couple of Leroy Rosenior goals won the game for them 1-2. The following midweek they went to Anfield and went a goal up and at that point we were down. Fortunately for us Liverpool were still in the title race and eventually turned it around and won 5-1. But our late equaliser against Boro and West Ham losing at Anfield were the two events that kept us up. A Boro win at Villa Park that day in April or a West Ham win at Anfield that night in May would have relegated us.
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The ticket office are going to have their work cut out that week. Likely won't even know who we're playing until late on Sunday 6th, and probably won't have the physical tickets to post out until the Tuesday. And that's just the away leg on the Saturday – whilst trying to shift 43,000 tickets for the home game.
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I think if we don’t go up and probably also if we do go up, a big part of having a successful 2018/19 season will be keeping Johnstone at the club, whatever it takes. If we lose him and have to bring in a new keeper it will be a huge setback. Probably the player we can least afford to lose in the summer and I include Grealish in that assessment.
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I'm looking forward to the playoffs - its better to have loved and lost etc. Obvs would prefer to go up in an automatic spot but its going to be exciting however you look at it. I wouldn't fancy us against Barcelona but I still think the likes of Fulham, Cardiff and Millwall are beatable. If we're still in the Championship next season next season we'll have a new manager - maybe one that will have a strategy, vision and ambition to transform this club.
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I'm looking forward to the playoffs - its better to have loved and lost etc. Obvs would prefer to go up in an automatic spot but its going to be exciting however you look at it. I wouldn't fancy us against Barcelona but I still think the likes of Fulham, Cardiff and Millwall are beatable. If we're still in the Championship next season next season we'll have a new manager - maybe one that will have a strategy, vision and ambition to transform this club.
I think Mr Bruce will remain baring a thrashing in the playoffs.
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If we don’t go up this year I have serious doubts about us becoming one of the top clubs in Europe within the next three years or so.
Splitter
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I thought it was West Ham who ran us close for survival that season?
Due to the Hillsborough disaster West Ham had two games in hand to play at the end of the season after we had played all of ours (away to Forest and Liverpool). They went to Forest on a Thursday night and a couple of Leroy Rosenior goals won the game for them 1-2. The following midweek they went to Anfield and went a goal up and at that point we were down. Fortunately for us Liverpool were still in the title race and eventually turned it around and won 5-1. But our late equaliser against Boro and West Ham losing at Anfield were the two events that kept us up. A Boro win at Villa Park that day in April or a West Ham win at Anfield that night in May would have relegated us.
Point of order, Mr Speaker. Liverpool went 1-0 up and West Ham equalised. So we were only partly rather than totally bricking it.
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I think if we don’t go up and probably also if we do go up, a big part of having a successful 2018/19 season will be keeping Johnstone at the club, whatever it takes. If we lose him and have to bring in a new keeper it will be a huge setback. Probably the player we can least afford to lose in the summer and I include Grealish in that assessment.
He's a good shot-stopper and I'd like us to hang on to him, but let's not over-state it... Wolves proved there are smart acquisitions to be made between the sticks when they picked up Ruddy for approximately £0.
Losing Chester IMO would be the biggest blow we could receive, and I think we most likely will if we don't get promoted.
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I think if we don’t go up and probably also if we do go up, a big part of having a successful 2018/19 season will be keeping Johnstone at the club, whatever it takes. If we lose him and have to bring in a new keeper it will be a huge setback. Probably the player we can least afford to lose in the summer and I include Grealish in that assessment.
He's a good shot-stopper and I'd like us to hang on to him, but let's not over-state it... Wolves proved there are smart acquisitions to be made between the sticks when they picked up Ruddy for approximately £0.
Losing Chester IMO would be the biggest blow we could receive, and I think we most likely will if we don't get promoted.
I agree - goalkeeper is one of the easier positions to fill with someone competent.
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I'm looking forward to the playoffs - its better to have loved and lost etc. Obvs would prefer to go up in an automatic spot but its going to be exciting however you look at it. I wouldn't fancy us against Barcelona but I still think the likes of Fulham, Cardiff and Millwall are beatable. If we're still in the Championship next season next season we'll have a new manager - maybe one that will have a strategy, vision and ambition to transform this club.
I think Mr Bruce will remain baring a thrashing in the playoffs.
Really, Frank?! God, I hope you're not a confidant of the Good Doctor.
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Players in and out - sam j either has a good game or a poor one not overly convincing. As for Chester can’t realistically see a queue from the premiership. More concerned at this moment as to the play offs and worry about the other stuff afterwards
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I rate Johnstone and would like to keep him either permanently or on another season long loan. The latter should be 'do-able'. I would like to keep Snodgrass too one way or the other. The Birmingham Mail reckoned West Ham wanted £12 million for him but no club is going to pay even close to that. I would like us to keep Grabban too as he has impressed me. But go up or stay down and the main man we need to keep is Grealish for me. I am the first to admit I had often previously said he was 'all fart and no shit' but he has been different class since returning from injury.
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Hotel booked and a decent line on a ticket for Charlie if needs be. Bless him, he is only seven so doesn't have too extravagant a bucket list.
Outside of visiting Florida and New York, we could do most in one weekend.
He wants to go to London. On a big train. That goes really fast. We wants to go to Wembley, see the Tower of London, Tower Bridge, the London Eye and Big Ben. And definitely go on a train that goes underground. And if he could have a night in a hotel (but not with his Mom or brother there) then that will cap it off.
He can fuck off with the Harry Potter Studios though. Robbing bastards.
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I'm looking forward to the playoffs - its better to have loved and lost etc. Obvs would prefer to go up in an automatic spot but its going to be exciting however you look at it. I wouldn't fancy us against Barcelona but I still think the likes of Fulham, Cardiff and Millwall are beatable. If we're still in the Championship next season next season we'll have a new manager - maybe one that will have a strategy, vision and ambition to transform this club.
I think Mr Bruce will remain baring a thrashing in the playoffs.
Really, Frank?! God, I hope you're not a confidant of the Good Doctor.
Yes, I feel that if we finish well and have a good showing but narrowly miss out in the playoffs he will remain in situ. The good doctor will have confidence that Bruce can make improvements to ensure promotion next term...(please note this comment does not reflect the wishes of the poster)
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I think if we don’t go up and probably also if we do go up, a big part of having a successful 2018/19 season will be keeping Johnstone at the club, whatever it takes. If we lose him and have to bring in a new keeper it will be a huge setback. Probably the player we can least afford to lose in the summer and I include Grealish in that assessment.
He's a good shot-stopper and I'd like us to hang on to him, but let's not over-state it... Wolves proved there are smart acquisitions to be made between the sticks when they picked up Ruddy for approximately £0.
Losing Chester IMO would be the biggest blow we could receive, and I think we most likely will if we don't get promoted.
Ruddy is gash though.
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Losing Chester IMO would be the biggest blow we could receive, and I think we most likely will if we don't get promoted.
Step forward Curtis Davies.*
*If Bruce stays.
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A Downing header. Even worse.
Now you’re being daft. He hasn’t got the balls to head the ball
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I think if we don’t go up and probably also if we do go up, a big part of having a successful 2018/19 season will be keeping Johnstone at the club, whatever it takes. If we lose him and have to bring in a new keeper it will be a huge setback. Probably the player we can least afford to lose in the summer and I include Grealish in that assessment.
He's a good shot-stopper and I'd like us to hang on to him, but let's not over-state it... Wolves proved there are smart acquisitions to be made between the sticks when they picked up Ruddy for approximately £0.
Losing Chester IMO would be the biggest blow we could receive, and I think we most likely will if we don't get promoted.
Ruddy is gash though.
You also have to bear in mind that some keepers will look far better in the Championship. I like Johnstone and think he can only improve, but I wouldn't be distraught if we lost him. Look at David Stockdale - got promoted with Brighton only to be cast out when they reached a higher level.
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I'm looking forward to the playoffs - its better to have loved and lost etc. Obvs would prefer to go up in an automatic spot but its going to be exciting however you look at it. I wouldn't fancy us against Barcelona but I still think the likes of Fulham, Cardiff and Millwall are beatable. If we're still in the Championship next season next season we'll have a new manager - maybe one that will have a strategy, vision and ambition to transform this club.
I think Mr Bruce will remain baring a thrashing in the playoffs.
Really, Frank?! God, I hope you're not a confidant of the Good Doctor.
Yes, I feel that if we finish well and have a good showing but narrowly miss out in the playoffs he will remain in situ. The good doctor will have confidence that Bruce can make improvements to ensure promotion next term...(please note this comment does not reflect the wishes of the poster)
Bruce would be out on his arse before the bank holiday weekend was done if we lost on the play offs. And he knows that.
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Let’s hope my theory remains untested
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Hotel booked and a decent line on a ticket for Charlie if needs be. Bless him, he is only seven so doesn't have too extravagant a bucket list.
Outside of visiting Florida and New York, we could do most in one weekend.
He wants to go to London. On a big train. That goes really fast. We wants to go to Wembley, see the Tower of London, Tower Bridge, the London Eye and Big Ben. And definitely go on a train that goes underground. And if he could have a night in a hotel (but not with his Mom or brother there) then that will cap it off.
He can fuck off with the Harry Potter Studios though. Robbing bastards.
He could do most of that if I sent him to work instead of me for a day. If he's good at hiding the job's his.
Also, people are often crying out for 'Charlie' at my place!
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I think if we don’t go up and probably also if we do go up, a big part of having a successful 2018/19 season will be keeping Johnstone at the club, whatever it takes. If we lose him and have to bring in a new keeper it will be a huge setback. Probably the player we can least afford to lose in the summer and I include Grealish in that assessment.
He's a good shot-stopper and I'd like us to hang on to him, but let's not over-state it... Wolves proved there are smart acquisitions to be made between the sticks when they picked up Ruddy for approximately £0.
Losing Chester IMO would be the biggest blow we could receive, and I think we most likely will if we don't get promoted.
I agree - goalkeeper is one of the easier positions to fill with someone competent.
Brian Clough would strongly disagree.
I haven't been gone on any of our keepers since Bosnich. Most of them had decent spells at one point or other but can't think of any that went to a better team after us.
I like Johnstone, think his distribution has improved as the season has gone on. Far better this season than last. Can be a bit naive and gets pinned to his line for set pieces too often. For a big lad should be a lot more commanding.
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Take him to Harry Potter. He'll love you for life and even a miserable bstd like me had to confess it was worth it. Plus if we lose it'll be his abiding memory rather than the lifelong psychological trauma of watching Villa fail to turn up at Wembley.
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I think if we don’t go up and probably also if we do go up, a big part of having a successful 2018/19 season will be keeping Johnstone at the club, whatever it takes. If we lose him and have to bring in a new keeper it will be a huge setback. Probably the player we can least afford to lose in the summer and I include Grealish in that assessment.
He's a good shot-stopper and I'd like us to hang on to him, but let's not over-state it... Wolves proved there are smart acquisitions to be made between the sticks when they picked up Ruddy for approximately £0.
Losing Chester IMO would be the biggest blow we could receive, and I think we most likely will if we don't get promoted.
I agree - goalkeeper is one of the easier positions to fill with someone competent.
Brian Clough would strongly disagree.
I haven't been gone on any of our keepers since Bosnich. Most of them had decent spells at one point or other but can't think of any that went to a better team after us.
I like Johnstone, think his distribution has improved as the season has gone on. Far better this season than last. Can be a bit naive and gets pinned to his line for set pieces too often. For a big lad should be a lot more commanding.
I like him too but did you see the Leeds game? Every other kick went directly out of play, and I can't remember a single time there was any pressure on him from Leeds attackers. His distribution is still very much woeful.
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I think if we don’t go up and probably also if we do go up, a big part of having a successful 2018/19 season will be keeping Johnstone at the club, whatever it takes. If we lose him and have to bring in a new keeper it will be a huge setback. Probably the player we can least afford to lose in the summer and I include Grealish in that assessment.
He's a good shot-stopper and I'd like us to hang on to him, but let's not over-state it... Wolves proved there are smart acquisitions to be made between the sticks when they picked up Ruddy for approximately £0.
Losing Chester IMO would be the biggest blow we could receive, and I think we most likely will if we don't get promoted.
I agree - goalkeeper is one of the easier positions to fill with someone competent.
Brian Clough would strongly disagree.
I haven't been gone on any of our keepers since Bosnich. Most of them had decent spells at one point or other but can't think of any that went to a better team after us.
I like Johnstone, think his distribution has improved as the season has gone on. Far better this season than last. Can be a bit naive and gets pinned to his line for set pieces too often. For a big lad should be a lot more commanding.
I like him too but did you see the Leeds game? Every other kick went directly out of play, and I can't remember a single time there was any pressure on him from Leeds attackers. His distribution is still very much woeful.
Didn't see Leeds game...highlights aside. I did see the Cardiff game and didn't recall any particular issue with his kicking that night. His shot stopping was immense too
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wants to go to Wembley, see the Tower of London, Tower Bridge, the London Eye and Big Ben.
Big Ben is wrapped from top to bottom in scaffolding at the moment
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wants to go to Wembley, see the Tower of London, Tower Bridge, the London Eye and Big Ben.
Big Ben is wrapped from top to bottom in scaffolding at the moment
#BrexitBritain
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wants to go to Wembley, see the Tower of London, Tower Bridge, the London Eye and Big Ben.
Big Ben is wrapped from top to bottom in scaffolding at the moment
So is Ironbridge. The bridge, not the town.
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wants to go to Wembley, see the Tower of London, Tower Bridge, the London Eye and Big Ben.
Big Ben is wrapped from top to bottom in scaffolding at the moment
Surely it's pretty well-obscured by the Elizabeth Tower anyway?
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Allocation IF we get to the final will apparently be 38k minimum. Could be more depending on who we play and their take up of tickets. Sheff Weds had 45k against Hull, whilst Hull had 25k.
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If we get to the final have we got somebody who can organise the standing/seated, singing/non singing sections?
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If we get to the final have we got somebody who can organise the standing/seated, singing/non singing sections?
Memories
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If we get to the final have we got somebody who can organise the standing/seated, singing/non singing sections?
Well the non singing section will be arsenal; the seating section will be Chelsea, and the rest will be Victories Villa fans.
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If we get to the final have we got somebody who can organise the standing/seated, singing/non singing sections?
If they play 'We Will Rock You' again before the game I'm walking out.
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"Never Mind The Middlesbrough, Here's The Aston Villa".
I'll set up a Kickstarter.
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What memories, forgot about the flag.
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If we get to the final have we got somebody who can organise the standing/seated, singing/non singing sections?
If they play 'We Will Rock You' again before the game I'm walking out.
About 2 hours after the game starts?
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wants to go to Wembley, see the Tower of London, Tower Bridge, the London Eye and Big Ben.
Big Ben is wrapped from top to bottom in scaffolding at the moment
Oh well, he has a giant bell with a big clock for a Dad anyway.
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Take him to Harry Potter. He'll love you for life and even a miserable bstd like me had to confess it was worth it. Plus if we lose it'll be his abiding memory rather than the lifelong psychological trauma of watching Villa fail to turn up at Wembley.
It might diminish the £2m we need to invest in Florida.
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Hotel booked and a decent line on a ticket for Charlie if needs be. Bless him, he is only seven so doesn't have too extravagant a bucket list.
Outside of visiting Florida and New York, we could do most in one weekend.
He wants to go to London. On a big train. That goes really fast. We wants to go to Wembley, see the Tower of London, Tower Bridge, the London Eye and Big Ben. And definitely go on a train that goes underground. And if he could have a night in a hotel (but not with his Mom or brother there) then that will cap it off.
He can fuck off with the Harry Potter Studios though. Robbing bastards.
He could do most of that if I sent him to work instead of me for a day. If he's good at hiding the job's his.
Also, people are often crying out for 'Charlie' at my place!
"I need charlie"
Shrugs. "What do you want from the kitchen NOW?"
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A Downing header. Even worse.
Now you’re being daft. He hasn’t got the balls to head the ball
I think I saw a ball hit him on the head once as he was jumping out of a challenge. A casual observer could have mistaken it for a header.
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He attempted a header when it was harder to miss than score in one game. I say attempted, it hit his head and went out of play. He then went down injured.
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cooont of the highest order
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Do we conspire to lose to Derby to help them gain a play off spot over Millwall or Boro?
I really don't fancy our chance against Millwall - why I don't know
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I wouldn't be keen on playing Millwall three times in a week.
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I wouldn't be keen on playing Millwall three times in a week.
Not a nice thought - likewise I wouldn't relish the thought of meeting up with 20k Millwall fans at Wembley either, even if we had 40k of our own support
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We'll have too much for Millwall.
Quite a few teams today deciding they don't want to be in the Play-offs.
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I think we're in for a difficult play-off scenario.
I think it'll be Fulham vs Brentford and us Vs Boro.
All the teams I'm semi certain we'd beat,both over two legs and in the final, seem to be slipping away and if the other playoff lends itself to Fulham/Brentford it'll be against teams I think we struggle with.
But I wouldn't bet against us!
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Any lingering hopes of us getting second are surely over as Fulham at home to Sunderland (r) nex5 Friday.
I can see Cardiff losing today against forest and then they play derby on Tuesday, Derby should be desperate to get back into the play off positions.
For me, 3rd still feels very possible.
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Boro trip for a 5.15pm kick off it’s seeming like
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As we've seen with the stripeyfilth's last couple, don't automatically write off an already doomed side.
The fat lady's gargling in the green room, but she's not on stage quite yet.
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Assuming we get Boro and defeat them over two legs we could face Brentford,Millwall or Fulham at Wembley - that's also assuming Cardiff get second place -
I don't know whether to get excited or start fretting !!!
It's the Villa we are taking about here !
VCTM Jnr reminded this week that he has seen us lose to Chelsea,Manure,and The Arse at Wembley - with the solitary sweet win against Liverpool
Surely we shouldn't be worried about Millwall,Fulham,Brentford or Cardiff????
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I think it'll be Fulham vs Brentford and us Vs Boro.
Yup.
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I reckon Fulham/Millwall and Villa/Boro.
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I reckon Fulham/Millwall and Villa/Boro.
Definitely Villa/Boro but the other one is too close to call.
Derby could win their game in hand (against Cardiff) on Tuesday and be in pole position. They then play us who will be semi-interested at best.
At the other end, I wouldn't like to have big money on who finishes 2nd out of Cardiff and Fulham.
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Derby have to play Cardiff, us and Barnsley, who will quite possibly need a win to survive. Their record in their last thirteen games is
W 2 D 5 L6
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Derby have collapsed...again
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Boro will be bloody tough.
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Really don't fancy Boro in the play offs.
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Really don't fancy Boro in the play offs.
Oh man up!
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Really don't fancy Boro in the play offs.
LOL what SH said. Grow a pair mate. Come on now. Fulham will be tough, but we’ll do Tiny Penis and his rabble.
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I think anyone but Fulham and we should be ok.
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Is it definitely:
3rd placed team playing on Friday & Monday
4th placed team playing Saturday and Tuesday?
I'm away that weekend and will definitely miss the first leg. I'm flying home on the Monday but would prefer the game to be on the Tuesday night.
https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2018/04/13/sky-bet-championship-play-off-dates-confirmed
Friday 11th May 2018: 6th v 3rd, 7.45pm
Saturday 12th May 2018: 5th v 4th, 5.15pm
Monday 14th May 2018: 3rd v 6th, 7.45pm
Tuesday 15th May 2018: 4th v 5th, 7.45pm
Saturday 26th May 2018: Sky Bet Championship Play-Off Final, 5pm
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I always thought Fulham would overtake Cardiff. But if Cardiff best derby on Tuesday I reckon that’s done
Boro will be tight and not too many goals if this season’s games are anything to go by. Have a bad feeling about Adama. But I’d put our chances at about 60:40 for that.
I think Brentford May just get that last spot. Really glad we’re unlikely to get them. I think they’ve got a great record against Fulham though so should give them a good game.
Wouldn’t really want to play either side in the final though. Give me Cardif any day.
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We can beat anybody.
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Really don't fancy Boro in the play offs.
Oh man up!
I don't fancy them either, but only because Middlesbrough is a fucking shithole.
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Definitely can beat anyone - which is great. Think villa park second leg atmosphere should see us through.
But let’s say I’m 70% confident of that, and then a final v Fulham is 50/50. Both odds a bit kind to us. But even with that, that’s a one in three chance of going up via the play offs
So very hopeful but can’t say I’m uber confident
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We can beat anybody.
And we can lose to anybody too, which is why it'll be squeaky bum time.
Fulham would be favourites to beat us I think.
Cardiff would be 50:50
Boro, I'd slightly favour us, but am concerned about Traore vs Neil Taylor
Brentford and Millwall are both bogey sides for us, and if we meet Millwall, it's probably because they beat us in the last game.
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Hutton would surely play v Adama - agree Taylor would be a big risk
I’ve said all season that our squad strength should be our key weapon. Generally it hasn’t been . Partly because of so many injuries (tho it helped us get through that) and partly because Bruce used it badly
But we’re in the unique position of having our position basically settled
The prospect of Adomah, Snodgrass, terry, Jedinak and maybe grealish, Grabban and others being really refreshes coming into those games is promising
I’d definitely seek to give jack a bit of a break for instance. Not least so he’s less likely to get injured
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We will win. We'll beat them all.
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Hopefully, these clubs are more worried about against playing us. Our recent record is excellent, only losing to Norwich recently. Kodjia back, hopefully Hutton too. Lots to be positive about. My only worry is that Bruce goes all defensive.
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We have the quality and big match experience to be the side to be feared. It’s in our hands and I’m quietly confident. Obviously it’s a bit of a lottery but with our squad we should fancy our chances against anyone, Fulham clearly are a good side though.
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Hopefully, these clubs are more worried about against playing us. Our recent record is excellent, only losing to Norwich recently. Kodjia back, hopefully Hutton too. Lots to be positive about. My only worry is that Bruce goes all defensive.
Until the second half of the second leg, when it will be 1-1-8, Samba in the 8
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If Cardiff win on Tuesday then I would rest a lot more of our players against Derby and Millwall and prepare for the playoffs.
We've earned a 10 point lead over 5th place and guaranteed the second leg at home. Lets use that to our advantage and rest as many as possible.
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We can beat anybody.
Except, it would seem, for Brentford.
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I'd treat Derby the same. Rotate Snoddy back in and maybe rest Jack for Lansbury in that attacking role.
There's going to be a full house so it's important to keep.momentum.
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Would ST holders get the home game included or have to buy tickets?
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I reckon Dr Tone will let season ticket holders in for free.
If Herbert was still our chairman there'd be no point asking...
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I'd treat Derby the same. Rotate Snoddy back in and maybe rest Jack for Lansbury in that attacking role.
There's going to be a full house so it's important to keep.momentum.
Totally agree Ads. We’re hitting good form again after our wobble; key players are playing well, whilst others will be going into the play-offs reasonably well rested.
Should we reach Wembley, and I think we will, we’ll have the biggest following of anyone and I’d strongly fancy us to get promoted.
Can’t wait to get back up to Villa Park next week !
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Think I would fancy our chances against anyone other than Fulham in the playoffs, but Boro would be very tough.
We’ve played them 3 times with:-
1W, 1D, 1L, GS1, GA1. Think we’ve both improved since the last meeting too; we have Grabban, Kodjia, Grealish in. They have Bamford and Traore in form.
Hoping to face Preston or Bristol City in the semifinals, as we’ve looked a lot better than them in each meeting this season.
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Think I would fancy our chances against anyone other than Fulham in the playoffs, but Boro would be very tough.
We’ve played them 3 times with:-
1W, 1D, 1L, GS1, GA1. Think we’ve both improved since the last meeting too; we have Grabban, Kodjia, Grealish in. They have Bamford and Traore in form.
Hoping to face Preston or Bristol City in the semifinals, as we’ve looked a lot better than them in each meeting this season.
Unless we sneak 3rd then that's not going to happen.
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Even if we sneak 3rd I can't see either of those being in the playoffs.
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I’d settle for playing them in the final :)
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Doesn't matter who it is. We have the squad, the knowhow, the Play Off Specialist and the baking. Nobody else is going to be walking out with 40 odd thousand backing them at their home leg or Wembley.
Tunnel vision. The opposition are an irrelevance. Believe.
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Doesn't matter who it is. We have the squad, the knowhow, the Play Off Specialist and the baking. Nobody else is going to be walking out with 40 odd thousand backing them at their home leg or Wembley.
Tunnel vision. The opposition are an irrelevance. Believe.
if we have the baking we should cake walk it :)
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The key for me is we have the squad strength to deal with 2 intense play off games in the space of 3 days which I dont think our likely opponents will have.
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I've looked up the deal with the play off semi finals so it's clear.
But does anyone know if Villa at 4th place would be scheduled to play Friday /Monday or Saturday and Tuesday.
I think championship 'A' match must be 3rd v 6th
And championship 'B' match 4th v 5th??
Listed info below
"The semi-final matches are played over two legs. In the first leg, the two teams who finished in third and fourth place in the League play away from home – the third placed team against the sixth, and the fourth placed team against the fifth. The second leg is a return match of the same pairs – this time the two teams who finished in third and fourth place in the League playing at home. The winner of each semi-final (based on the aggregate score of the first and second legs) goes forward into the play-off final.
In the second leg, if the aggregate scores are level at the end of ninety minutes, extra time is played. If the scores remain level at the end of extra time the tie is determined by the taking of kicks from the penalty mark."
The proposed 2017/18 Sky Bet Play-Off Semi-Final schedule is as follows: (kick off times could change)
Sky Bet Championship
Friday 11th May: Championship A – 7:45pm
Monday 14th May: Championship A – 7:45pm
Saturday 12th May: Championship B – 5:15pm
Tuesday 15th May: Championship B – 7:45pm
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Doesn't matter who it is. We have the squad, the knowhow, the Play Off Specialist and the baking. Nobody else is going to be walking out with 40 odd thousand backing them at their home leg or Wembley.
Tunnel vision. The opposition are an irrelevance. Believe.
Ad's 100%
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Think I heard that if we finish 4th, we’ll be away on Saturday at 5:15pm and then home on the Tuesday night. If 3rd, then away on Friday at 7:45pm.
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First post in the thread gives times and dates
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Doesn't matter who it is. We have the squad, the knowhow, the Play Off Specialist and the baking. Nobody else is going to be walking out with 40 odd thousand backing them at their home leg or Wembley.
Tunnel vision. The opposition are an irrelevance. Believe.
Absolutely.
The opposition will walking into a bear pit in that 2nd leg. It won't be easy, but I'm confident we can take anybody in this league on our day. Replicate that Wolves performance and atmosphere and we can get to the final.
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Definitely can beat anyone - which is great. Think villa park second leg atmosphere should see us through.
But let’s say I’m 70% confident of that, and then a final v Fulham is 50/50. Both odds a bit kind to us. But even with that, that’s a one in three chance of going up via the play offs
So very hopeful but can’t say I’m uber confident
Probably the same. We need to be better at defending set pieces v Boro. If we can nulify them on that I fancy us to cause them problems at the back particularly if Kodjia is starting.
Final also worries me...Brentford or Fulham on a wide pitch like Wembley concerns as all season we've not been great at teams which press us in midfield and can move the ball around us quickly.
The record v Brentford since we've been down here says it all.
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First post in the thread gives times and dates
Ahh yes thank you!! I misunderstood and read dates wrong. Amended dates I put up just now for the 2 fixtures as read them wrongly thinking a week in between matches
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Doesn't matter who it is. We have the squad, the knowhow, the Play Off Specialist and the baking. Nobody else is going to be walking out with 40 odd thousand backing them at their home leg or Wembley.
Tunnel vision. The opposition are an irrelevance. Believe.
if we have the baking we should cake walk it :)
Mary Berry is taking over from Steve Bruce.
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Think I heard that if we finish 4th, we’ll be away on Saturday at 5:15pm and then home on the Tuesday night. If 3rd, then away on Friday at 7:45pm.
Thanks anyway.
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In prep for play offs I've looked at Versus (vs) all play off contenders.
Overall club v Villa record.
Results vs season 17/18
Bruce record vs opposition teams
Bruce record vs opposing managers.
Cardiff, Fulham, Boro, Millwall, Derby, Brentford Preston.
Vs Cardiff
Games won: 27
Games drawn: 6
Games lost: 21
This season :
H. 1-0 Grealish screamer
A. 0-3.
Bruce vs Cardiff P12 W 6 D2 L4
Bruce has a great record v warnock. won 9 loss 2 from 11 matches v warnock . No draws between them. Ever!
Vs Fulham
Games won: 23
Games drawn: 22
Games lost: 23
This season
H. 2-1 win JT and Albert adomoah
A. 0-2 loss (no grealish or adomoah)
Vs Jokanovic : Played 5. 3 wins 2 loss
Bruce record v Fulham 24. W 8 D10 L 6.
Vs Boro
Games won: 65
Games drawn:34
Games lost: 43
This season
H. 0-0 v 10 men, (Traore sent off)
A. 1-0 win Snodgrass. ( new manager Pulis charge of Boro for the first time)
Also fixture, lost 0-2 h, league cup
Vs Pulis : Played 12. 4 wins. 3 draws. 5 defeats.
Bruce record v Boro. W7 D2 L11
(Before the 1-0 win at boro
Pulis had never lost a home league match against Bruce.
No ground where Boro have won more times than Villa Park. They have won 16 games there since first visit in 1903)
Vs Milwall
Games won: 14
Games drawn: 10
Games lost: 8
This season :
H. 0-0
A. yet to play..
Vs Harris. Played 1. Drawn 1.
Bruce Vs Millwall P6. W3.D2. L1
Vs Derby
Games won: 69
Games drawn:24
Games lost: 44
This season :
H, next up so yet to play..
A 0-2 loss (weimann didn't celebrate goal)
Bruce v Derby P13 W9 L4 no draws!
Vs Rowett : Played 4. 1 win. 1 draws. 2 defeats
Vs Brentford
Games won: 6
Games drawn:4
Games lost: 2
This season :
H. 0-0
A. 1-2 L Onomah screamer
Bruce vs Brentford P5 W2 D1 L2
Vs. Smith. Played 4. 1 win. 1 draw. 2 defeats.
Vs Preston
Games won: 57
Games drawn:19
Games lost: 38
This season :
H. 1-1 Grabban penalty.
A. 0-2 Chester Snodgrass and one of our decent away showings in performance as well as result
Bruce v Preston P8 W3 D2 L3
Vs Neil: Played 3. 1 win. 1 draw. 1 defeat.
Steve Bruce has achieved 4 separate promotions in the championship.
Up the villa
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Really don't fancy Boro in the play offs.
Oh man up!
I don't fancy them either, but only because Middlesbrough is a fucking shithole.
There's a good point to feeling as Bruce v Tp record Is interesting. As is his record v Boro. It's the most loss out of the teams listed for promo according to info I collated and researched.
Funny Bruce struggled with Pulis historically but less so with Warnock. Though Pulis has proven Prem league and been competitive whereas Warnock never did much, that is struggled , when manages at highest level.
Both organise a team well.
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Hotel booked and a decent line on a ticket for Charlie if needs be. Bless him, he is only seven so doesn't have too extravagant a bucket list.
Outside of visiting Florida and New York, we could do most in one weekend.
He wants to go to London. On a big train. That goes really fast. We wants to go to Wembley, see the Tower of London, Tower Bridge, the London Eye and Big Ben. And definitely go on a train that goes underground. And if he could have a night in a hotel (but not with his Mom or brother there) then that will cap it off.
He can fuck off with the Harry Potter Studios though. Robbing bastards.
You'd better hope he doesn't get drawn to visiting Roman Baths or the grand cathedrals of England. 'suggested' donation of £8 or you can't come in (Winchester cathedral). Thievery!
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Hotel booked and a decent line on a ticket for Charlie if needs be. Bless him, he is only seven so doesn't have too extravagant a bucket list.
Outside of visiting Florida and New York, we could do most in one weekend.
He wants to go to London. On a big train. That goes really fast. We wants to go to Wembley, see the Tower of London, Tower Bridge, the London Eye and Big Ben. And definitely go on a train that goes underground. And if he could have a night in a hotel (but not with his Mom or brother there) then that will cap it off.
He can fuck off with the Harry Potter Studios though. Robbing bastards.
You'd better hope he doesn't get drawn to visiting Roman Baths or the grand cathedrals of England. 'suggested' donation of £8 or you can't come in (Winchester cathedral). Thievery!
I read the original post as hotel booked and a decent line of charlie. I admired your honesty :)
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Footysklilz - you are wonderful !
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Footysklilz - you are wonderful !
Isn't he just! Absolutely brilliant fact finding there.
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Whatever else may influence the play off results you can guarantee one thing....we will be far and away the best supported of all the teams in the play off''s.
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None of the others will fancy playing us. And rightly so!
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If Cardiff win on Tuesday then I would rest a lot more of our players against Derby and Millwall and prepare for the playoffs.
The wheels are already off at Derby so I expect Cardiff to take full advantage. We should do the same next weekend where I don't expect we'll need to break sweat to beat them comfortably. Millwall should still be in the mix when we play them so a strong defensive exercise could be useful training before Boro away in the first leg.
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Millwall away at Boro next week. They will be desperate to beat us after being beaten by the Boro. Will add some spice and we could stop THEM from being in the play offs.
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If Cardiff win on Tuesday then I would rest a lot more of our players against Derby and Millwall and prepare for the playoffs.
We've earned a 10 point lead over 5th place and guaranteed the second leg at home. Lets use that to our advantage and rest as many as possible.
He rested a few yesterday and I think will do so for the last two
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Yep - may as well give jack, Jedinak, Elmo, hourihane, Grabban a bit of a rest
Would also mean the likes of Hutton, taylor, Bjarnason, lansbury, Onomah, hogan or Kodjia can build some form
Thinking about the seemingly inevitable game against boro - the first goal in that tie is going to be crucial. Our record of defending / chasing first goals is so stark. And boro are set up to be the same
We need a plan for Traore and a plan for set pieces. If we can do that I’d fancy us to win
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Final also worries me...Brentford or Fulham on a wide pitch like Wembley concerns as all season we've not been great at teams which press us in midfield and can move the ball around us quickly.
The pitch dimensions are identical to Villa Park, as is required by UEFA for a Category 4 stadium. 115yds x 75yds (I always think football pitches should be measured in yards).
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Final also worries me...Brentford or Fulham on a wide pitch like Wembley concerns as all season we've not been great at teams which press us in midfield and can move the ball around us quickly.
The pitch dimensions are identical to Villa Park, as is required by UEFA for a Category 4 stadium. 115yds x 75yds (I always think football pitches should be measured in yards).
And having checked:
Riverside: 115 x 75
Craven Cottage: 110 x 75
Griffin Park: 110 x 73
Pride Park: 115 x 75
The New Den: 116 x 75
So I guess the argument would be that Fulham and Brentford are better on smaller pitches with less space. Which should play to our advantage should they be lucky enough to play us in the final.
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Footysklilz - you are wonderful !
Isn't he just! Absolutely brilliant fact finding there.
It comes with being a villa follower. We are all wonder boys! And girls.
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Without going back through all the thread has anyone mentioned there are no direct trains from Brum to Euston on play off final day yet ?
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Is that definite? I heard a rumour there were some train issues that day but I can't find anything concrete about it!
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Virgin currently have 1 train an hour listed.
There's a few more on the Moor St-Marylebone route though.
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Final also worries me...Brentford or Fulham on a wide pitch like Wembley concerns as all season we've not been great at teams which press us in midfield and can move the ball around us quickly.
The pitch dimensions are identical to Villa Park, as is required by UEFA for a Category 4 stadium. 115yds x 75yds (I always think football pitches should be measured in yards).
Final also worries me...Brentford or Fulham on a wide pitch like Wembley concerns as all season we've not been great at teams which press us in midfield and can move the ball around us quickly.
The pitch dimensions are identical to Villa Park, as is required by UEFA for a Category 4 stadium. 115yds x 75yds (I always think football pitches should be measured in yards).
And having checked:
Riverside: 115 x 75
Craven Cottage: 110 x 75
Griffin Park: 110 x 73
Pride Park: 115 x 75
The New Den: 116 x 75
So I guess the argument would be that Fulham and Brentford are better on smaller pitches with less space. Which should play to our advantage should they be lucky enough to play us in the final.
Not sure, Brentford were good at opening us up at VP in September, just couldn't finish their one-on-ones.
I think the problem would be if we were to concede the first goal and so had to chase the game and then someone like Sessegnon would have a lot more space to play with.
Of course it can also benefit us with likes of Jack and Kodjia.
Let's get there first anyway.
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The pattern of results when we score or concede first is ridiculous. I think that the first goal against boro will be so crucial
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This might not be popular but I am going to say it. I really dont mind if we go up or not. Yes a club like ours should be in the Prem and yes we will lose some players if we dont go up but I have enjoyed winning games this season. I only get to 1 or 2 games a year but its been a long time since we have been able to look forward to games, expecting to win and score a few goals.
Next year even if we go up and spend a lot of money we are still crossing off features as losses before we even get going.
Dont know if that makes but i dont feel any stress about the playoffs.
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This might not be popular but I am going to say it. I really dont mind if we go up or not. Yes a club like ours should be in the Prem and yes we will lose some players if we dont go up but I have enjoyed winning games this season. I only get to 1 or 2 games a year but its been a long time since we have been able to look forward to games, expecting to win and score a few goals.
Next year even if we go up and spend a lot of money we are still crossing off features as losses before we even get going.
Dont know if that makes but i dont feel any stress about the playoffs.
Admire your view but I want us back at the top. I love the club regardless, but what's amazed me is how quickly we've been forgotten by the big PL clubs and their supporters. I don't need the validation but it's a bit like seeing your kid being bullied. Sick of hearing how shit we are from people who aren't even aware of '82. Unfortunately that means nothing to people now, so it's time we proved ourselves a force again. I'm realistic to know that we're not about to pull a Leicester, but even the thought of them & Newcastle being considered much bigger clubs than us grates massively with me.
So, in short, I do mind.
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This might not be popular but I am going to say it. I really dont mind if we go up or not. Yes a club like ours should be in the Prem and yes we will lose some players if we dont go up but I have enjoyed winning games this season. I only get to 1 or 2 games a year but its been a long time since we have been able to look forward to games, expecting to win and score a few goals.
Next year even if we go up and spend a lot of money we are still crossing off features as losses before we even get going.
Dont know if that makes but i dont feel any stress about the playoffs.
I know what you mean. I've not hated the Championship as much as I thought I would and I've enjoyed going down to the games. I don't want to stay in this league for too long though, we need to get back up.
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Agreed there is nothing like turning up at Villa Park, expecting to win, and winning. Most of all seeing away fans staying quiet all through the match.
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Anyone got an idea of away allocations for likely opponents in the semis?
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I think it would be most enjoyable to watch Villa play some swash-buckling attacking football in whatever league we are in. I would like us to get promoted in order to keep Jack as he is critical to that. Then add some more attacking quality and hang on to players like Grabban. If we got promoted and then were involved in another battle to survive I wouldnt mind as much as it wouldnt feel like the end of the world now. If we got promoted and ended up one of the also rans just by playing safety first percentage football that wouldnt be so exciting.
In my years watching Villa I respect defensive gods like McGrath but its players like Daley, Atkinson, Merson, Yorke and Young that I identify as having the DNA of a Villa player.
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Anyone got an idea of away allocations for likely opponents in the semis?
I would give the opposing fans as few tickets as we can get away with.
It's likely to be the same as a league fixture, so just under 3,000.
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You get a cup allocation.
I'd assume we'd get 4500 at Boro, 1650 at Brentford or 2000 at Millwall.
I can't see any of them bringing more than 2800 to Villa Park on a week night.
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You only have to offer a maximum of 2000 away tickets in the play offs, although it is down to the club to make the decision whether to give more.
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I’d be amazed if we got any more than 2k at Boro. Why would they give us any more if they don’t have to?
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This might not be popular but I am going to say it. I really dont mind if we go up or not. Yes a club like ours should be in the Prem and yes we will lose some players if we dont go up but I have enjoyed winning games this season. I only get to 1 or 2 games a year but its been a long time since we have been able to look forward to games, expecting to win and score a few goals.
Next year even if we go up and spend a lot of money we are still crossing off features as losses before we even get going.
Dont know if that makes but i dont feel any stress about the playoffs.
We were winning plenty of games in the premier league 8 years ago, it's not impossible to get back to that level seeing what Burnley have done.
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Let's say we get to the final, would tickets be available on general release?
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Let's say we get to the final, would tickets be available on general release?
You get 38k minimum so yes they would go to general sale easily. The FA Cup Semi v Chelsea in 2010 went to general with 33k tickets and I think the Liverpool semi in 2015 did aswell.
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Sounds good. I don't think I can miss this one.
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I like Derby Cardiff semi final.
Would feel Derby would beat them and games would be entertaining
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This might not be popular but I am going to say it. I really dont mind if we go up or not. Yes a club like ours should be in the Prem and yes we will lose some players if we dont go up but I have enjoyed winning games this season. I only get to 1 or 2 games a year but its been a long time since we have been able to look forward to games, expecting to win and score a few goals.
Next year even if we go up and spend a lot of money we are still crossing off features as losses before we even get going.
Dont know if that makes but i dont feel any stress about the playoffs.
I know exactly what you mean.
I've enjoyed this season, and even last far more than the last 5/6 years of our last Premier League run. The only honest reason i want us to get promoted is the money the club need in it's coffers. Personally i wont be bothered one bit if we're still where we are next season. I just don't miss the premier league at all.
I don't give a shit what anyone else thinks about the club either. And going up and floundering around the bottom reaches of the table isn't exactly going to improve our standing with other supporters anyway.
I don't want to go up unless we've got a team that can, with just a few tweaks make a good fist of playing in that league. As it stands we're MILES off having that.
We've not used these last two seasons as a chance to bed in youngsters (youngsters i'm told are good enough) so if we do get promoted you can bet your arse they wont get a look in if we do get promoted. It'll be 'this is no place to bed in kids' ... where is then ?
I'm completely at ease and relaxed with whatever happens next. What will be will be. My season ticket for next season is already paid for regardless.
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We were winning plenty of games in the premier league 8 years ago, it's not impossible to get back to that level seeing what Burnley have done.
Nowhere near 24 mind.
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I'm puzzled as to why so many think we would struggle if/when we return to the Premiership. Take out the top six and you are left with 14 clubs trying to stay up and as only 3 clubs are relegated, that leaves a rump of crap we should easily be able to hold our own against.
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I'm puzzled as to why so many think we would struggle if/when we return to the Premiership. Take out the top six and you are left with 14 clubs trying to stay up and as only 3 clubs are relegated, that leaves a rump of crap we should easily be able to hold our own against.
For me, the challenge would be whether we can staff up with the right number and quality of players to stay up in our first season back. So many of the current crop would not cut it in the top flight that we are going to have to do a major re-structuring.
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I’m sure this has been covered before, so apologies...but anyone know if the home leg will be covered by our ST?
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Nope
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This might not be popular but I am going to say it. I really dont mind if we go up or not. Yes a club like ours should be in the Prem and yes we will lose some players if we dont go up but I have enjoyed winning games this season. I only get to 1 or 2 games a year but its been a long time since we have been able to look forward to games, expecting to win and score a few goals.
Next year even if we go up and spend a lot of money we are still crossing off features as losses before we even get going.
Dont know if that makes but i dont feel any stress about the playoffs.
I know exactly what you mean.
I've enjoyed this season, and even last far more than the last 5/6 years of our last Premier League run. The only honest reason i want us to get promoted is the money the club need in it's coffers. Personally i wont be bothered one bit if we're still where we are next season. I just don't miss the premier league at all.
I don't give a shit what anyone else thinks about the club either. And going up and floundering around the bottom reaches of the table isn't exactly going to improve our standing with other supporters anyway.
I don't want to go up unless we've got a team that can, with just a few tweaks make a good fist of playing in that league. As it stands we're MILES off having that.
We've not used these last two seasons as a chance to bed in youngsters (youngsters i'm told are good enough) so if we do get promoted you can bet your arse they wont get a look in if we do get promoted. It'll be 'this is no place to bed in kids' ... where is then ?
I'm completely at ease and relaxed with whatever happens next. What will be will be. My season ticket for next season is already paid for regardless.
I have to agree. Watching Man City destroy Swansea while still in 1st gear sent shivers down my spine. I've really enjoyed the championship and have not missed PL once. My ST has been renewed regardless and I'm more than happy with whatever we get. A good cup run would be nice though!
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I agree with much of the above. I want us to win the games required to get promoted and then decline to go up.
I’ve seen every game at home since relegation and missed three away. It is just so refreshing to know that every single game is potentially winnable. The people I go with have all either renewed or will renew for next season regardless of which league we are in, but see no point in taking half day holidays on Mondays to see heavy defeats in North London , Merseyside or Manchester. In fact other than maybe away to the three survivors of this years PL bottom 6 who can we realistically give a game to away from home?
The only saving grace is there would be less games and there is an away ticket price cap. The flip side of that is smaller allocations.
Stay down and take the cups seriously that will do me.
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We were winning plenty of games in the premier league 8 years ago, it's not impossible to get back to that level seeing what Burnley have done.
Nowhere near 24 mind.
Weren't playing 46 games either.
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Sorry but I can't believe we're seriously discussing the merits of whether or not we really want the club back in the Premier League. The logic of "well, we get to see a lot more wins down here" also applies to League One, League Two, etc. etc. Do we want to see Villa dispatch Fleetwood Town by 7 goals, or potentially compete for real honours and play European football again?
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We were winning plenty of games in the premier league 8 years ago, it's not impossible to get back to that level seeing what Burnley have done.
Nowhere near 24 mind.
Weren't playing 46 games either.
Playing Man City probably feels as though you have.
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We were winning plenty of games in the premier league 8 years ago, it's not impossible to get back to that level seeing what Burnley have done.
Nowhere near 24 mind.
8 more games at this level of course.
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The other bit about being down here is that it's all fun and games while we've got the biggest budget by a country mile due to parachute payments but ask Leeds, Forest, and Wednesday fans how much fun it is when the financial playing field is level.
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It's not so much the winning games that has made it better for me. It's just felt more like 'old football'. It feels like anyone can do well in this league. Yes , there are teams like us and Wolves with a financial advantage (for now) but then there are many other teams that just get themselves in the frame by building a good team spirit and a 'style' of playing (good or bad) that gathers points and momentum.
Sometimes you even get a team that comes from League 1 & goes right through to the Premiership in a single season. This league has a completely different way about it that makes it anybody's for the taking. It ebbs and flows, teams have good runs, fall way, come back. Wolves were pretty much run away winners this season but even they got hauled back to within a few points and there were moments when it wasn't so certain.
I watch the odd Premier League game now and I have no sense of yearning for it at all. It looks plastic and distant. I want us to get promoted because a club with an infrastructure as big as ours would really struggle if we stay down too long, & a realistic chance of a trophy would be good, but if we go up, it wouldn't make me look forward to next season with any extra excitement.
In many ways, it'll be a bit sad if we won the play offs because I think whoever we beat would be more excited to win than I would. I remember being at Cardiff with Preston when they got beaten by West Ham, & I remember that the West Ham fans didn't seem as elated as PNE would have been. Now I get why.
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The other bit about being down here is that it's all fun and games while we've got the biggest budget by a country mile due to parachute payments but ask Leeds, Forest, and Wednesday fans how much fun it is when the financial playing field is level.
Brentford and Fulham have shown in the past couple of years that you can have a good season on a relatively small budget.
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The other bit about being down here is that it's all fun and games while we've got the biggest budget by a country mile due to parachute payments but ask Leeds, Forest, and Wednesday fans how much fun it is when the financial playing field is level.
Brentford and Fulham have shown in the past couple of years that you can have a good season on a relatively small budget.
Of course, there is a common denominator involved in that dynamic - namely, both of those clubs have a very good manager at the helm.
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It's not so much the winning games that has made it better for me. It's just felt more like 'old football'. It feels like anyone can do well in this league. Yes , there are teams like us and Wolves with a financial advantage (for now) but then there are many other teams that just get themselves in the frame by building a good team spirit and a 'style' of playing (good or bad) that gathers points and momentum.
Sometimes you even get a team that comes from League 1 & goes right through to the Premiership in a single season. This league has a completely different way about it that makes it anybody's for the taking. It ebbs and flows, teams have good runs, fall way, come back. Wolves were pretty much run away winners this season but even they got hauled back to within a few points and there were moments when it wasn't so certain.
I watch the odd Premier League game now and I have no sense of yearning for it at all. It looks plastic and distant. I want us to get promoted because a club with an infrastructure as big as ours would really struggle if we stay down too long, & a realistic chance of a trophy would be good, but if we go up, it wouldn't make me look forward to next season with any extra excitement.
In many ways, it'll be a bit sad if we won the play offs because I think whoever we beat would be more excited to win than I would. I remember being at Cardiff with Preston when they got beaten by West Ham, & I remember that the West Ham fans didn't seem as elated as PNE would have been. Now I get why.
It's a really good point: I know my feelin will be one of relief that we are moving forwards again, even if the prospect of the Premier League does not thrill me particularly.
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The longer we stay in this Division the smaller the gates the worse the atmosphere and the less relevant we become, how many more parts of the ground do people want to see shut?
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I'm still surprised at how many never miss a match supporters are at worst/best ambivalent and at best/worst want us to stay down because they're enjoying it more.
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The other bit about being down here is that it's all fun and games while we've got the biggest budget by a country mile due to parachute payments but ask Leeds, Forest, and Wednesday fans how much fun it is when the financial playing field is level.
True, if we don't go up this season it's going to get progressively harder. To be honest I think the Manchester two, Arsenal and Chelsea are going to share the next 5 titles between them. Tottenham are going to really struggle to finance their new stadium while keeping onto their coach and best players. Liverpool will really struggle to hold onto Salah this summer.
If you can get over that we would be effectively in a 14 team league but playing progressive football with the likes of Johnstone and Grealish developing further, then the top division is the only place to win.
I'm convinced we are going to win playoffs!
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I'm still surprised at how many never miss a match supporters are at worst/best ambivalent and at best/worst want us to stay down because they're enjoying it more.
I'm enjoying winning and us being the big boys on the block, but we've got to get out of here as soon as possible as there's a financial clock on that.
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I'm still surprised at how many never miss a match supporters are at worst/best ambivalent and at best/worst want us to stay down because they're enjoying it more.
I'm enjoying winning and us being the big boys on the block, but we've got to get out of here as soon as possible as there's a financial clock on that.
Agreed.
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I was previously in the win more games/stay in the same division camp, but after seeing the capitulation of Sunderland and the extremely gloomy prospects that they now face, we just can't stay in the Championship for much longer. We need to capitalise on having on the best squads in the division before it is too late.
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I'm still surprised at how many never miss a match supporters are at worst/best ambivalent and at best/worst want us to stay down because they're enjoying it more.
How long will that enjoyment last though?
At some point the playing field gets leveled to the extent of a half full ground and losing to the likes of Barnsley and their ilk becomes the norm.
That sort of experience is available just down the road.
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I'm still surprised at how many never miss a match supporters are at worst/best ambivalent and at best/worst want us to stay down because they're enjoying it more.
How long will that enjoyment last though?
At some point the playing field gets leveled to the extent of a half full ground and losing to the likes of Barnsley and their ilk becomes the norm.
That sort of experience is available just down the road.
I agree to some extent but then I would find a full stadium for a game against Newton Heath no less depressing when we have little chance of matching them on the field and a significant percentage of the crowd are day trippers or glory hunters a situation which, along with outside commitments, drove me away in the first place.
However, my overriding desire to see us where I believe we belong, in the top division will trump any enjoyment gained in the tier below.
I shall enjoy the next month, relatively relaxed about the outcome, but should we be in a similar position this time next year I'm not sure I will be the same.
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When Leicester were in the Championship when they were perennial playoff hopefuls, my mate knew several of their directors. They were more than happy to see them do well but not go up. Crowds stayed large because they were winning, whereas they knew they'd struggle in the top division and crowds would drop off. This was proven when they eventually did go up and came straight back down. Supporters of any club want to see them do well and if they are winning the fans will go, if they aren't they won't. We need to be able to compete rather than survive in the PL and I don't feel that this squad or manager are going to do that. I really do see us coming back down straight away if we get promoted without a serious injection of quality players and a quality manager. But who do we buy? Probably the best players from those clubs that have been relegated, and what quality does that add. As for manager, Steve has done a good job in steadying a ship that could easily have done a Sunderland, and he should take a lot of credit for that but as the man to take us forward into the PL I don't believe he is the man for that.
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When Leicester were in the Championship when they were perennial playoff hopefuls, my mate knew several of their directors. They were more than happy to see them do well but not go up. Crowds stayed large because they were winning, whereas they knew they'd struggle in the top division and crowds would drop off. This was proven when they eventually did go up and came straight back down. Supporters of any club want to see them do well and if they are winning the fans will go, if they aren't they won't. We need to be able to compete rather than survive in the PL and I don't feel that this squad or manager are going to do that. I really do see us coming back down straight away if we get promoted without a serious injection of quality players and a quality manager. But who do we buy? Probably the best players from those clubs that have been relegated, and what quality does that add. As for manager, Steve has done a good job in steadying a ship that could easily have done a Sunderland, and he should take a lot of credit for that but as the man to take us forward into the PL I don't believe he is the man for that.
I have the same opinion for these comments.
If we go up, it should be thanks Steve and adios, but also need some squad strengthening
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I get what some are saying, every game down here is winnable, home or away. If we go up, even games like Watford and Bournemouth away will be difficult and we'll do well to draw. Games at Man City, Liverpool etc will be write offs. However, we need to go up this season. If we don't I fear we'll be the next Leeds and be down here for years.
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When Leicester were in the Championship when they were perennial playoff hopefuls, my mate knew several of their directors. They were more than happy to see them do well but not go up. Crowds stayed large because they were winning, whereas they knew they'd struggle in the top division and crowds would drop off. This was proven when they eventually did go up and came straight back down. Supporters of any club want to see them do well and if they are winning the fans will go, if they aren't they won't. We need to be able to compete rather than survive in the PL and I don't feel that this squad or manager are going to do that. I really do see us coming back down straight away if we get promoted without a serious injection of quality players and a quality manager. But who do we buy? Probably the best players from those clubs that have been relegated, and what quality does that add. As for manager, Steve has done a good job in steadying a ship that could easily have done a Sunderland, and he should take a lot of credit for that but as the man to take us forward into the PL I don't believe he is the man for that.
You had so many cautionary tales/examples of clubs to compare us to in order to support your point, and chose the one club who went up and won the fecking Premier League after 2 seasons back in the top flight!
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When Leicester were in the Championship when they were perennial playoff hopefuls, my mate knew several of their directors. They were more than happy to see them do well but not go up. Crowds stayed large because they were winning, whereas they knew they'd struggle in the top division and crowds would drop off. This was proven when they eventually did go up and came straight back down. Supporters of any club want to see them do well and if they are winning the fans will go, if they aren't they won't. We need to be able to compete rather than survive in the PL and I don't feel that this squad or manager are going to do that. I really do see us coming back down straight away if we get promoted without a serious injection of quality players and a quality manager. But who do we buy? Probably the best players from those clubs that have been relegated, and what quality does that add. As for manager, Steve has done a good job in steadying a ship that could easily have done a Sunderland, and he should take a lot of credit for that but as the man to take us forward into the PL I don't believe he is the man for that.
You had so many cautionary tales/examples of clubs to compare us to in order to support your point, and chose the one club who went up and won the fecking Premier League after 2 seasons back in the top flight!
True but I was talking about them during the 90/00 when they didn't have the new stadium nor financial backing.
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When Leicester were in the Championship when they were perennial playoff hopefuls, my mate knew several of their directors. They were more than happy to see them do well but not go up. Crowds stayed large because they were winning, whereas they knew they'd struggle in the top division and crowds would drop off. This was proven when they eventually did go up and came straight back down. Supporters of any club want to see them do well and if they are winning the fans will go, if they aren't they won't. We need to be able to compete rather than survive in the PL and I don't feel that this squad or manager are going to do that. I really do see us coming back down straight away if we get promoted without a serious injection of quality players and a quality manager. But who do we buy? Probably the best players from those clubs that have been relegated, and what quality does that add. As for manager, Steve has done a good job in steadying a ship that could easily have done a Sunderland, and he should take a lot of credit for that but as the man to take us forward into the PL I don't believe he is the man for that.
You had so many cautionary tales/examples of clubs to compare us to in order to support your point, and chose the one club who went up and won the fecking Premier League after 2 seasons back in the top flight!
True but I was talking about them during the 90/00 when they didn't have the new stadium nor financial backing.
Remind me how much debt they wrote off when they went into administration then.
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The other bit about being down here is that it's all fun and games while we've got the biggest budget by a country mile due to parachute payments but ask Leeds, Forest, and Wednesday fans how much fun it is when the financial playing field is level.
We'll probably find that more out next season if we don't go up.
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I get what some are saying, every game down here is winnable, home or away. If we go up, even games like Watford and Bournemouth away will be difficult and we'll do well to draw. Games at Man City, Liverpool etc will be write offs. However, we need to go up this season. If we don't I fear we'll be the next Leeds and be down here for years.
That's being a bit OTT I think (the Watford and Bournemouth bit). Premier league nowadays pretty rubbish below the obvious top 6 (with Burnley being a honourable expection).
Anyone below 7th struggles to get to even 50 points. Everton have had an o.k run under Big Sam (still not won many away games) and they've gone from just outside the relegation zone to eighth.
We would need a good transfer campaign but if we did we'd be comfortable as Brighton, Huddersfield and Newcastle have generally been.
A club like us needed to get relegated to sort out our problems. We've slowly but surely done that.
I want us to go up just to see what the Xia plans and backing would be. Difficult to see how we could execute his announcements on arrival with us being a year in year out championship club.
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A club like us needed to get relegated to sort out our problems. We've slowly but surely done that.
I'm not so sure. Most of our best performers are loanees - what happens when they all disappear? The fundamental structure of the club, whilst undoubtedly better than it was, still seems to be built on a degree of quicksand.
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When Leicester were in the Championship when they were perennial playoff hopefuls, my mate knew several of their directors. They were more than happy to see them do well but not go up. Crowds stayed large because they were winning, whereas they knew they'd struggle in the top division and crowds would drop off. This was proven when they eventually did go up and came straight back down. Supporters of any club want to see them do well and if they are winning the fans will go, if they aren't they won't. We need to be able to compete rather than survive in the PL and I don't feel that this squad or manager are going to do that. I really do see us coming back down straight away if we get promoted without a serious injection of quality players and a quality manager. But who do we buy? Probably the best players from those clubs that have been relegated, and what quality does that add. As for manager, Steve has done a good job in steadying a ship that could easily have done a Sunderland, and he should take a lot of credit for that but as the man to take us forward into the PL I don't believe he is the man for that.
You had so many cautionary tales/examples of clubs to compare us to in order to support your point, and chose the one club who went up and won the fecking Premier League after 2 seasons back in the top flight!
True but I was talking about them during the 90/00 when they didn't have the new stadium nor financial backing.
They came up under MON in the 90s and were regular top half (and also a team we could never beat).
You must mean 2002,2003, 2004 when they were relegated, promoted and relegated again but they were about to move into the new stadium which impacted on their spending powers back then.
They'd be a proper buzz back being in the premier league again, we'd shift a whole load of season tickets I reckon particularly if we signed some exciting international players.
Of course the reality might be different once it all kicks off as we saw from August 2015!
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A club like us needed to get relegated to sort out our problems. We've slowly but surely done that.
I'm not so sure. Most of our best performers are loanees - what happens when they all disappear? The fundamental structure of the club, whilst undoubtedly better than it was, still seems to be built on a degree of quicksand.
SB knows this season is his one chance to get us up so he's gone short term.
I think if we went up we'd have likes of Snodgrass, Adomah, Hourihane etc as squad players and hopefully make 3-4 signings to raise the quality level.
It wouldn't be different to say Newcastle going up and still having the likes of Diame, Matt Ritchie, Yedlin as regular starters or Brighton having Knockeart, Stephens as first choices.
Of course we then come back to the quality of the manager....
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A club like us needed to get relegated to sort out our problems. We've slowly but surely done that.
I'm not so sure. Most of our best performers are loanees - what happens when they all disappear? The fundamental structure of the club, whilst undoubtedly better than it was, still seems to be built on a degree of quicksand.
If we go up we are keeping the loanees. Its only of we stay down thay the likes of Snodgrass & Johnstone have to go.
Rather than quicksand, that is financial.planning to have quality players who we aren't stuck with on contracts we can't afford if we stay down.
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A club like us needed to get relegated to sort out our problems. We've slowly but surely done that.
I'm not so sure. Most of our best performers are loanees - what happens when they all disappear? The fundamental structure of the club, whilst undoubtedly better than it was, still seems to be built on a degree of quicksand.
If we go up we are keeping the loanees. Its only of we stay down thay the likes of Snodgrass & Johnstone have to go.
Rather than quicksand, that is financial.planning to have quality players who we aren't stuck with on contracts we can't afford if we stay down.
I get that, but it hasn't really sorted out our problems. If we don't go up, we'll lose our best players, and as a result of the huge drop in parachute payments we'll have nothing to replace them with.
Bruce has helped to address the slide we were on (Sunderland was us in an alternate reality!) but we're a long way away from having sorted out our problems.
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I'm puzzled as to why so many think we would struggle if/when we return to the Premiership. Take out the top six and you are left with 14 clubs trying to stay up and as only 3 clubs are relegated, that leaves a rump of crap we should easily be able to hold our own against.
Purely down to our squad
Goalkeepers :
We don't own any that are good enough. So we'd be looking to spend a fair bit on Johnstone (if available) but WE still have no decent back up to him.
Defence :
Chester - Good enough
Terry - Not premier league quality anymore
Hutton - hopefully be gone but nowhere near premier league quality
Taylor - Possibly good enough to be a back up
Bree - No idea, hasn't played enough for anyone to know if he's premier league quality
Elmo - Possibly good enough to be a back up
Samba/Richards/Elphick - HAHAHA
De Laet - Possibly good enough to be a back up, very hard to know
Midfield :
Whelan/Jedinak - Not premier league quality anymore
Hourihane/Bjarnason/Lansbury - Possibly good enough squad players
Grealish/Green - I reckon both could cut it
Adomah - Not sure he'd be a starter
Snodgrass - Not ours of course, dubious he's PL quality anyway
Strikers :
Davis - Unknown, could raise his game to PL level, could not
Kodjia - Unknown, could raise his game to PL level, could not
Hogan - Unknown, could raise his game to PL level, could not
Gabby - Bye!
McCormack - Not good enough
Grabban - Not ours, possibly could be useful in the PL
RHM - Unknown, could raise his game to PL level, could not
All IMHO of course
The amount of players and money we'd need to compete if promoted is quite scary
If we're still in the Championship then we MUST blood some of our own next season. We HAVE to see if they're good enough
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Snodgrass was great for Hull in the prem just over a year ago, scored plenty of good goals.
Largely agree with the rest.
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If we go up we are in a different ball park. The money and players available to Premier League Villa dwarfs what we have now. Pretty much every side that's been promoted this century has been in our position, but very few have had our draw. The right manager buying sensibly will see us alright. A shit or bust dodgy transfer policy will see us come down. But with football as it is, all bar the super rich have the same problem of keeping their half-decent players and making sure they have a bit more than three out of 14. The really good players in any of those 14 will be cherry-picked, then the 14 just shuffle the lower cards between themselves. It's why football's shit, but it's also why we have as much chance of finishing 7th as we do 20th.
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Hutton is better than all other full backs mentioned above, so we would certainly need two new ones.
The likes of Davis, O'Hare, RHM and Green would need extended loans away before being considered up to the level. The latter two have missed a lot of football already through injury.
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When Leicester were in the Championship when they were perennial playoff hopefuls, my mate knew several of their directors. They were more than happy to see them do well but not go up. Crowds stayed large because they were winning, whereas they knew they'd struggle in the top division and crowds would drop off. This was proven when they eventually did go up and came straight back down. Supporters of any club want to see them do well and if they are winning the fans will go, if they aren't they won't. We need to be able to compete rather than survive in the PL and I don't feel that this squad or manager are going to do that. I really do see us coming back down straight away if we get promoted without a serious injection of quality players and a quality manager. But who do we buy? Probably the best players from those clubs that have been relegated, and what quality does that add. As for manager, Steve has done a good job in steadying a ship that could easily have done a Sunderland, and he should take a lot of credit for that but as the man to take us forward into the PL I don't believe he is the man for that.
You had so many cautionary tales/examples of clubs to compare us to in order to support your point, and chose the one club who went up and won the fecking Premier League after 2 seasons back in the top flight!
True but I was talking about them during the 90/00 when they didn't have the new stadium nor financial backing.
Remind me how much debt they wrote off when they went into administration then.
Can we have this in a sealed envelope please?
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When Leicester were in the Championship when they were perennial playoff hopefuls, my mate knew several of their directors. They were more than happy to see them do well but not go up. Crowds stayed large because they were winning, whereas they knew they'd struggle in the top division and crowds would drop off. This was proven when they eventually did go up and came straight back down. Supporters of any club want to see them do well and if they are winning the fans will go, if they aren't they won't. We need to be able to compete rather than survive in the PL and I don't feel that this squad or manager are going to do that. I really do see us coming back down straight away if we get promoted without a serious injection of quality players and a quality manager. But who do we buy? Probably the best players from those clubs that have been relegated, and what quality does that add. As for manager, Steve has done a good job in steadying a ship that could easily have done a Sunderland, and he should take a lot of credit for that but as the man to take us forward into the PL I don't believe he is the man for that.
You had so many cautionary tales/examples of clubs to compare us to in order to support your point, and chose the one club who went up and won the fecking Premier League after 2 seasons back in the top flight!
True but I was talking about them during the 90/00 when they didn't have the new stadium nor financial backing.
Remind me how much debt they wrote off when they went into administration then.
Can we have this in a sealed envelope please?
£30 Million according to Wiki.
Several millions to construction companies an many local enterprises fucked. They didn't even pay the Ambulance Service, if memory serves. ****s.
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They had an arrangement whereby if they got promoted they'd pay back something like 70 per cent to creditors but if they stayed down it would be 10 per cent. The number of former Premier League clubs going into administration around then was disgraceful - as Walsall secretary Roy Whalley said, "We have to compete with clubs who get four times our crowds and break even yet they can just write off tens of millions."
What was particularly galling was that almost every club that went under owed money to St John's Ambulance, including most unforgivably Bradford. It wouldn't have hurt either them or Leicester to have made a donation from their recent windfalls.
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A good friend of mine with a printing business lost his house to a bank due to Leicester City walking away from their debts.
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They had an arrangement whereby if they got promoted they'd pay back something like 70 per cent to creditors but if they stayed down it would be 10 per cent. The number of former Premier League clubs going into administration aroune then was disgraceful - as Walsall secretary Roy Whalley said, "We have to compete with clubs who get four times our crowds and break even yet they can just write off tens of millions."
What was particularly galling was that almost every club that went under owed money to St John's Ambulance, including most unforgivably Bradford. It wouldn't have hurt either them or Leicester to have made a donation from their recent windfalls.
Don’t talk daft - football, morals and common sense don’t form a sentence and it only get worse as clubs chase their holy grails with foreign owners who don’t believe in mediocre state of affairs
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that Football creditors get preferential treatment under the Insolvency Laws has never sat comfortably with me.
If they were treated the same as St Johns ambulance for example it might force the Authorities to start cleaning up the game.
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So it is the Saturday Tuesday Semis?
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Yes Sat then Tues
I can still see Cardiff only drawing next week as Reading are battling relegation
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Yes Sat then Tues
I can still see Cardiff only drawing next week as Reading are battling relegation
Reading are the worst team I've seen at Villa Park all season. Cardiff will win that at a canter. Fulhams chance of automatic went today.
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Yes Sat then Tues
I can still see Cardiff only drawing next week as Reading are battling relegation
Reading are the worst team I've seen at Villa Park all season. Cardiff will win that at a canter. Fulhams chance of automatic went today.
It's all getting really interesting now, Fulham Derby is very hard to call and Fulham have never won a play off game I'm told?
Reading were play off finalists last year as well and arguably should have won the final, now they potentially face relegation. That's the Championship.
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Having seen Derby today, Fulham should absolutely destroy them.
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Play offs really are a lottery. If Fulham miss out on automatic, they could be deflated by the time the two leg games come around. It happened to Brighton two years ago,missed out on automatic promotion by a goal then lost in the two legs.
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League games this season:
Fulham 1-1 Derby
Derby1-2 Fulham
Fulham will be favourites but if Derby can defend like they did today they have a shot.
Of course Rowett could always become a proper DVB by throwing the game v Barnsley and sending SHA down.
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Realistically we should have been mentally preparing for the play offs for a while now.
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Realistically we should have been mentally preparing for the play offs for a while now.
I think we have.
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Boro v Us
Derby or Preston v Fulham or Cardiff
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Next week; Derby v Barnsley, Preston v Burton, Blues v Fulham, Cardiff v Reading. Got to fancy all of them winning and things stay as they are.
Boro v Villa
Derby v Fulham.
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You missed Boro at Ipswich, Derby can still finish 5th but would it need a Derby win and a Boro defeat and one of those would need to be by 2 goals.
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For all this Fulham are great, they did beat us but we were severely depleted and gave them a goal on a plate. I'd like to think that a full strength Villa can give them more than enough problems.
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Derby in final and an opportunity to put today's travesty to rights.
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Bookies have us 7/2 3rd favourites behind Fulham (7/4) & Boro (11/4). Fill your boots on Villa I say. Fulham I can understand but there's no way we should be a bigger price than Boro.
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You missed Boro at Ipswich, Derby can still finish 5th but would it need a Derby win and a Boro defeat and one of those would need to be by 2 goals.
Very true PWS, although I can't see it myself.
As for Boro being a better price with the bookies, that will be about their momentum going in to the play offs I reckon. I think it will be tough but would like to think that we have more match winners that them.
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I still can't really see why as we've taken the same amount of points over the last 6 games. We've also taken 4 points off them this season and have the 2nd leg at home. I think the prices should be the other way round.
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Isn't it more about how much money is being placed rather than the bookies thinking Boro are more likely to go up than us?
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Who's our starting line-up for Boro then? Personally only spot I think is unclear is defensive mid. I'd pick Bjarnason but reckon he might pick Jedi because it's a Pulis team. Or stick with Whelan?
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Would go with Jedinak for the away league. Re-assess for home depending on the score.
Boro obviously are good with set pieces so Jedinak on the pitch reduces the chances of us conceding a cheap one from a corner which has been a problem at times this season.
Surely Kodjia will start. Albert has not hit the heights for a while now so think he's the most vulnerable of the front 4.
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Something like to bring to attention and maybe something which can view positively.
So the good thing is
In 14 matches Villa have played at Riverside
W8 D3 L3
Also! * steve Agnew knows some of this boro squad. He was the manager last season for last 11 league games ultimately relegating them.
I would think that gives some advantage on knowing players weakness (and strengths)
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Jedinak to play away with Adomah wide
At home, Whelan or maybe Barny at DM; Grabban on the left and Kodjia up front - if fit enough
Onomah off the bench
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Derby or Boro?
Barnsley fighting for their lives, but quality might tell.
Boro away at Ipswich where they're up and down, but Boro likely to rest players and their record is shocking.
Not bothered with either to be honest. Boro looked exactly like the tedious Pulis ball side they are against Millwall. While Derby looked...well woeful.
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I’d rather Derby as it’s a much shorter trip and likely to be a better day out. On the pitch however there’s very little difference between the two. I’m expecting it to be Boro.
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Feeling positive. We will score at the riverside so got to fancy a win. If we can win the first leg then then having to come at us at VP would play right into our hands
Come on!!
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I hope we go with this team in the playoffs:
Johnstone,
Elmo - Chester - Terry - Hutton
Jedinak
Snodgrass - Onomah - Grealish - Grabban
Kodjia.
Or those eleven players in some formation.
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I hope we go with this team in the playoffs:
Johnstone,
Elmo - Chester - Terry - Hutton
Jedinak
Snodgrass - Onomah - Grealish - Grabban
Kodjia.
Or those eleven players in some formation.
Albert might be out of form but Kodjia hasn't showed enough for me to justify getting back in as a starter. I'd play him at Millwall though to give him a chance to find his shooting boots. Also, while Onomah had a good cameo yesterday it was just a cameo. Conor starts for me.
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I'd rather play Derby but it will be Boro. Derby looked rubbish yesterday and I think we'd beat them over two legs. Boro would be a sterner test I think with Pulis in charge and I fear Traore's pace against Taylor/Hutton.
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I hope we go with this team in the playoffs:
Johnstone,
Elmo - Chester - Terry - Hutton
Jedinak
Snodgrass - Onomah - Grealish - Grabban
Kodjia.
Or those eleven players in some formation.
Against the more physical sides such as Middlesborough and Cardiff, Onomah may as well be siting on a cruise liner. He has a positive side to his game coming off the bench but I would in no shape or occasion start him.
I just hope Villa show how little I know about football this coming 3 weeks. I am a wreck before we start.
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Have I read this right and the home leg has been added to season cards?
https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2018/04/28/keep-your-season-tickets-after-derby-encounter
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Have I read this right and the home leg has been added to season cards?
https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2018/04/28/keep-your-season-tickets-after-derby-encounter
If it isn't free after saying that then there's a case for misleading advertising, or whatever it is.
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So are we expecting the home leg to be free for season ticket holders after the announcement yesterday to keep hold of season cards? Or was it purely because you can load the game onto your card if you wish to?
Heard a rumour yesterday the prices are going to be £25 for adults and £10 for kids.
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Just cruise through and hammer the play offs please Villa.
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So are we expecting the home leg to be free for season ticket holders after the announcement yesterday to keep hold of season cards? Or was it purely because you can load the game onto your card if you wish to?
Heard a rumour yesterday the prices are going to be £25 for adults and £10 for kids.
Hold on to your ST card is because club are re-using the cards for next seasons ST's. When I renewed my STs a few weeks ago they said cards are being reused next season.
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Aston Villa Season Ticket Holders and Members are urged to keep their Season Cards for the upcoming Sky Bet Championship Play-Offs.
Your cards will be valid for our home semi-final on either Monday 14th or Tuesday 15th May 2018.
There is no mention of next season at all in that press release. All it says is cards are valid for the play offs.
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Well that's good if ply off semi is added. I think it should be as it's still part of the season and the League rather than cup game.
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Well that's good if ply off semi is added. I think it should be as it's still part of the season and the League rather than cup game.
Yes I agree but it’s also a way for the club to thank the fans in a practical way. They keeping telling us ‘thanks’ but this is a way of showing it.
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Also helps with selling the tickets to non season ticket holders given the short time after the Millwall game.
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I'd rather play Derby but it will be Boro. Derby looked rubbish yesterday and I think we'd beat them over two legs. Boro would be a sterner test I think with Pulis in charge and I fear Traore's pace against Taylor/Hutton.
Tylor yes .. he would cause havoc
Hutton no has he will be in row S after 5 minutes
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OS has updated the page and confirmed we will be paying
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Hmmmmmm, that’s a bit naughty.
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Boooo....
“Please note the semi-final is not included in your Season Ticket/Membership price. Payment details will be confirmed in due course.”
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Dr Tony will be inundated with tweets from 'yer Dads' complaining about this. They've started already. Hopefully it doesn't put people off from buying tickets, we need a full house.
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It would.be nice if it was included but there's no reason why it should be expected to.
We will have the full 41750 or whatever it is these days.
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According to the rules, we can only reduce prices including letting season ticket holders in for free with the agreement of the away club. Seeing as a percentage of all income is then split between all four teams in the play offs I think most teams would charge full price again:
https://www.efl.com/clubs-and-competitions/sky-bet-play-offs/playoff-rules--regulations/
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They could have avoided the confusion by not putting that announcement out yesterday.
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Yep, someone's fucked up at the club there.
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It was very badly worded. What they presumably meant was that season ticket holders would be guaranteed their existing seats if they paid for them and would need the physical tickets to get in. Saying the tickets would be "valid for the match" suggested quite strongly that they wouldn't need to pay.
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Never been the same since Nicola Keys RIP
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Huh? I thought 4th v 5th was definitely the 'B' match? (https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2018/04/13/sky-bet-championship-play-off-dates-confirmed)
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Huh? I thought 4th v 5th was definitely the 'B' match? (https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2018/04/13/sky-bet-championship-play-off-dates-confirmed)
WTF.
Surely that’s not right? The team finishing 3rd plays first always to allow for a days extra rest before the final
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If I was being polite I'd suggest that possibly the club might want to get all their facts together before posting anything else on this issue.
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Huh? I thought 4th v 5th was definitely the 'B' match? (https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2018/04/13/sky-bet-championship-play-off-dates-confirmed)
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/play-off-championship-dates-villa-14414843
The Mail have this down as confirmed?
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My son's seat has had a squatter on it for several weeks. He will get a big shock when Green Jnr turns up for the play offs..
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If I was being polite I'd suggest that possibly the club might want to get all their facts together before posting anything else on this issue.
It's a cut & paste job from the EPL site.
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Huh? I thought 4th v 5th was definitely the 'B' match? (https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2018/04/13/sky-bet-championship-play-off-dates-confirmed)
We're on the Saturday and Tuesday. Cardiff/Fulham are on the Friday and Monday.
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Huh? I thought 4th v 5th was definitely the 'B' match? (https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2018/04/13/sky-bet-championship-play-off-dates-confirmed)
We're on the Saturday and Tuesday. Cardiff/Fulham are on the Friday and Monday.
If its Fulham v Millwall the Met Police may get a bit "twitchy" about that game being on a Friday night
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Huh? I thought 4th v 5th was definitely the 'B' match? (https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2018/04/13/sky-bet-championship-play-off-dates-confirmed)
We're on the Saturday and Tuesday. Cardiff/Fulham are on the Friday and Monday.
If its Fulham v Millwall the Met Police may get a bit "twitchy" about that game being on a Friday night
Millwall can't finish in the play offs now. It will be Derby or Preston.
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Millwall can't finish in the play offs now. It will be Derby or Preston.
It's *possible* for them, although they'd have to win 5-0, Derby would have to lose 4-0, and Preston would need to not win.
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I think we will have enough to get through to the final no matter who we play over two legs out of Boro, Derby or Preston
however we will need a Wolves (home) like performance at Wembley if we end up meeting Fulham
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The second leg at Villa Park is going to be a very special night. I really wish I could get over for it.
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Huh? I thought 4th v 5th was definitely the 'B' match? (https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2018/04/13/sky-bet-championship-play-off-dates-confirmed)
We're on the Saturday and Tuesday. Cardiff/Fulham are on the Friday and Monday.
If its Fulham v Millwall the Met Police may get a bit "twitchy" about that game being on a Friday night
Fulham played milwall last Friday night. Not aware of any major incidents
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Not a playoff game, though. Didn't they riot for hours after losing a playoff game to Small Heath in an evening game? Admittedly a few years back now.
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I think we will have enough to get through to the final no matter who we play over two legs out of Boro, Derby or Preston
however we will need a Wolves (home) like performance at Wembley if we end up meeting Fulham
Just got a sneaky feeling that Fulham won’t get past the semis (don’t know why)
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I think we will have enough to get through to the final no matter who we play over two legs out of Boro, Derby or Preston
however we will need a Wolves (home) like performance at Wembley if we end up meeting Fulham
Just got a sneaky feeling that Fulham won’t get past the semis (don’t know why)
It will take a very good team to beat them over two legs, and I think I'd want to play that team even less than I want to play Fulham tbh.
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You never know, to go on a run which could finish up being W19 D5 L0 and miss out on automatic promotion by a point could deflate them.
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I think we will have enough to get through to the final no matter who we play over two legs out of Boro, Derby or Preston
however we will need a Wolves (home) like performance at Wembley if we end up meeting Fulham
Just got a sneaky feeling that Fulham won’t get past the semis (don’t know why)
It will take a very good team to beat them over two legs, and I think I'd want to play that team even less than I want to play Fulham tbh.
Plus their left back got injured on Friday night meaning Boy wonder is back at left back.........
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Do we know when they are going to confirm whether we are semi-final A or B? The OS says it hasn't been decided yet. Also does anyone know anything about the tickets? Will they be paper tickets, or will ST holders have their card activated once they have paid?
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Do we know when they are going to confirm whether we are semi-final A or B? The OS says it hasn't been decided yet. Also does anyone know anything about the tickets? Will they be paper tickets, or will ST holders have their card activated once they have paid?
Will be on your ST Card once you have paid. I can't imagine the club charging top dollar as they would face a backlash. Just don't expect the Villa to proivide you with a free ticket on the other hand, doesnt happen in this day or age.
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You never know, to go on a run which could finish up being W19 D5 L0 and miss out on automatic promotion by a point could deflate them.
They must be due a defeat soon anyway - they aren't Brazil 1970.
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Do we know when they are going to confirm whether we are semi-final A or B? The OS says it hasn't been decided yet. Also does anyone know anything about the tickets? Will they be paper tickets, or will ST holders have their card activated once they have paid?
Whoever finishes 3rd is always Semi Final A. We are confirmed as Saturday 5.30 for the away leg and Tuesday 7.45 for the home leg.
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Well certainly hope so, as I just booked flights over on Tuesday and back home Wednesday morning!
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Do we know when they are going to confirm whether we are semi-final A or B? The OS says it hasn't been decided yet. Also does anyone know anything about the tickets? Will they be paper tickets, or will ST holders have their card activated once they have paid?
Whoever finishes 3rd is always Semi Final A. We are confirmed as Saturday 5.30 for the away leg and Tuesday 7.45 for the home leg.
Not according to the OS
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I guess there is a conversation about the teams, journeys, police etc before they can confirm.
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We are definitely being charged for the home leg (And Lee Preece was certain it was the Tuesday night at the weekend). Hopefully filling our much bigger ground (all gate receipts are shared amongst the four teams) will mean our rivals are happy for us to discount the tickets.
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Do we know when they are going to confirm whether we are semi-final A or B? The OS says it hasn't been decided yet. Also does anyone know anything about the tickets? Will they be paper tickets, or will ST holders have their card activated once they have paid?
Whoever finishes 3rd is always Semi Final A. We are confirmed as Saturday 5.30 for the away leg and Tuesday 7.45 for the home leg.
Not confirmed yet – although the EFL website did say this a week ago, before they changed it back to TBC. I'm guessing the Met Police might have said there's no way they'd sanction Millwall v Cardiff on a Friday night, although that's now massively unlikely. Derby v Fulham on a Friday should be rubberstamped, as well as us away at Boro on the Saturday.
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The Met care little and less about kick off times. It doesn't stop Millwall coming out to have a go.
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Saw on Twitter earlier someone is trying to start a campaign for everyone to take a scarf, flag, balloons etc to the home leg. Would certainly add to the atmosphere. The Holte looked and sounded superb at that Sheff Utd game when everyone had a scarf.
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We are definitely being charged for the home leg (And Lee Preece was certain it was the Tuesday night at the weekend). Hopefully filling our much bigger ground (all gate receipts are shared amongst the four teams) will mean our rivals are happy for us to discount the tickets.
Boro charged £20 against Brentford a few years ago. Would be good for both clubs to agree pricing of £20 adults and £10 for kids.
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Not a playoff game, though. Didn't they riot for hours after losing a playoff game to Small Heath in an evening game? Admittedly a few years back now.
I think in 2002 Millwall drew at the sty and a late Stern John goal won the tie in the second leg at The New Den. Then it kicked off big time after the game. I remember there was also trouble at Millwall when they went out of the play off semis to Derby in 1996.
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It’s all about holding our nerve now. Bring it on- we’re Aston Villa
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Just a reminder for anyone who has to plan their travel taken - from the official site.
Below are the dates and times for the semi-finals. Please note 'Championship A' and 'Championship B' matches have not yet been confirmed as either 3rd v 6th or 4th v 5th.
Opposition and fixture details will be outlined in due course.
The Sky Bet Championship Play-Off Final will take place at Wembley Stadium on Saturday 26th May, kicking-off at 5pm.
Dates and kick-off times are in full below:
Friday 11th May 2018: CHAMPIONSHIP PLAY-OFF A, 7.45pm
Saturday 12th May 2018: CHAMPIONSHIP PLAY-OFF B, 5.15pm
Monday 14th May 2018: CHAMPIONSHIP PLAY-OFF A, 7.45pm
Tuesday 15th May 2018: CHAMPIONSHIP PLAY-OFF B, 7.45pm
Saturday 26th May 2018: Sky Bet Championship Play-Off Final, 5pm
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Saw on Twitter earlier someone is trying to start a campaign for everyone to take a scarf, flag, balloons etc to the home leg. Would certainly add to the atmosphere. The Holte looked and sounded superb at that Sheff Utd game when everyone had a scarf.
It's a massive match for us.
We don't need a campaign to bring stuff. You know the atmosphere will be brilliant, anyway.
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Just a reminder for anyone who has to plan their travel taken - from the official site.
Below are the dates and times for the semi-finals. Please note 'Championship A' and 'Championship B' matches have not yet been confirmed as either 3rd v 6th or 4th v 5th.
Opposition and fixture details will be outlined in due course.
The Sky Bet Championship Play-Off Final will take place at Wembley Stadium on Saturday 26th May, kicking-off at 5pm.
Dates and kick-off times are in full below:
Friday 11th May 2018: CHAMPIONSHIP PLAY-OFF A, 7.45pm
Saturday 12th May 2018: CHAMPIONSHIP PLAY-OFF B, 5.15pm
Monday 14th May 2018: CHAMPIONSHIP PLAY-OFF A, 7.45pm
Tuesday 15th May 2018: CHAMPIONSHIP PLAY-OFF B, 7.45pm
Saturday 26th May 2018: Sky Bet Championship Play-Off Final, 5pm
We're the Saturday and Tuesday. Game A is always 3rd v 6th and is always played first. The only anomaly to this was Norwich v Ipswich that the police moved to the early kick off. Every other 3rd v 6th teams, going back ten years, have been the first kick off.
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So not always then, just most of the time? :P
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I think I will wait for the official announcement thanks.
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Are all of the matches just going to be on Sky? Any AVTV?
Last time I looked ESPN moved their English league (Sky) matches to a subscription service called ESPN+ (the c***s).
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I think I will wait for the official announcement thanks.
Ok princess
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I think I will wait for the official announcement thanks.
Ok princess
Flutters eye lashes, pouts.
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I think I will wait for the official announcement thanks.
Ok princess
Flutters eye lashes, pouts.
U OK Hun?
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It's been confirmed now for Saturday 12th and Tuesday 15th so you can all kiss and make up.
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Dates and kick-off times for the Sky Bet Championship Play-Offs have been confirmed.
We will play our away leg of the semi-finals on Saturday 12th May (5.15pm kick-off) and the second leg at Villa Park on Tuesday 15th May (7.45pm kick-off).
The claret and blues will face the team who finish fifth after the final round of fixtures this Sunday.
Middlesbrough currently occupy that position in the Championship table, but Derby County could also still finish there.
The Sky Bet Championship Play-Off Final will then take place at Wembley Stadium on Saturday 26th May, kicking-off at 5pm.
Below are the dates and times in full for the Play-Offs. Confirmation of opposition and ticket details will be outlined in due course.
Dates and kick-off times:
Friday 11th May 2018: 6th v 3rd, 7.45pm
Saturday 12th May 2018: 5th v 4th, 5.15pm
Monday 14th May 2018: 3rd v 6th, 7.45pm
Tuesday 15th May 2018: 4th v 5th, 7.45pm
Saturday 26th May 2018: Sky Bet Championship Play-Off Final, 5pm
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Are all of the matches just going to be on Sky? Any AVTV?
Last time I looked ESPN moved their English league (Sky) matches to a subscription service called ESPN+ (the c***s).
first week is free, and its 8 bucks a month. Annoying (similar to NBC gold) but sadly inevitable
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Are all of the matches just going to be on Sky? Any AVTV?
Last time I looked ESPN moved their English league (Sky) matches to a subscription service called ESPN+ (the c***s).
In past seasons SKY have shown the games live
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It's been confirmed now for Saturday 12th and Tuesday 15th so you can all kiss and make up.
I knew it would be.
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It's been confirmed now for Saturday 12th and Tuesday 15th so you can all kiss and make up.
I knew it would be.
I wish I was as clever as you.
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It's been confirmed now for Saturday 12th and Tuesday 15th so you can all kiss and make up.
I knew it would be.
I wish I was as clever as you.
Keep eating your greens.
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I'd rather we played at home on a Saturday evening as opposed to a Tuesday, given how our Tuesday evening home matches have generally panned out this season.
I also liked Jonathan Wilson's suggestion that the playoff semis should be just one leg, at the stadium of the higher placed team. So that league placing gets more of a reward.
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I'd rather we played at home on a Saturday evening as opposed to a Tuesday, given how our Tuesday evening home matches have generally panned out this season.
I also liked Jonathan Wilson's suggestion that the playoff semis should be just one leg, at the stadium of the higher placed team. So that league placing gets more of a reward.
They seem to already be 1 leg with the higher placed team at home in the Conference and Conference North/South this year. In fact they’ve completely copied the NFL Playoff format, with 6 teams and the top 2 byed through a round.
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I'd rather we played at home on a Saturday evening as opposed to a Tuesday, given how our Tuesday evening home matches have generally panned out this season.
I also liked Jonathan Wilson's suggestion that the playoff semis should be just one leg, at the stadium of the higher placed team. So that league placing gets more of a reward.
They seem to already be 1 leg with the higher placed team at home in the Conference and Conference North/South this year. In fact they’ve completely copied the NFL Playoff format, with 6 teams and the top 2 byed through a round.
They could expand it to the top 20... have a league system and the top team gets promoted.
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I like the new Conference system. The one leg format, and byes for the top two, give a genuine advantage to teams based on where they finish. It also keeps the season alive for longer.
I'd like them to adopt it for the Football League.
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Tickets go on sale Sunday.
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I'd rather we played at home on a Saturday evening as opposed to a Tuesday, given how our Tuesday evening home matches have generally panned out this season.
I also liked Jonathan Wilson's suggestion that the playoff semis should be just one leg, at the stadium of the higher placed team. So that league placing gets more of a reward.
Our Tuesday night record isn't that bad. Wins v Sunderland, Reading and Cardiff, draws v PNE and Boro.
Of course the QPR game was a black mark but difference will be 40k + whereas we had flat crowds and atmosphere for many of those games.
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are tickets on sale sunday for away leg or home leg heard so many different things
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are tickets on sale sunday for away leg or home leg heard so many different things
The Club haven't said anything yet mate..........Keep an eye on the website on Sunday afternoon anytime after about 15:00pm ish
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cheers mate keep hearing so many things suppose they cant put anything out until matches are finished sunday
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From what I understand Villa are waiting to find out who we are up against as the EFL have stipulated a minimum of 2,000 tickets for the away supports.
Hopefully after tomorrow's results it will become clear and clubs can negotiate on allocations. Wouldnt surprise me if there was an announcement even tomorrow evening or even Bank Holiday monday.
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I would imagine that Villa will have held preliminary talks with both Boro and Derby regarding ticketing/pricing and allocations.
It may be that Boro and derby have differed slightly in their approach, which may explain the delay in Villa selling tickets.
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I think you will find tickets will go on sale on line 2moro for both games.......as someone has said Villa will just be waiting for final confirmation of who they are playing and cant sell anything until that is sorted
Possibly after 17:00pm or 18:00pm - Tickets for the away game will need to be posted by Thurs @ the very latest
Villa have a very short sales window to shift approx 40,000 tickets for both games
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Anyone know what the situation is with away scheme members? Will the away leg of the play off be automatically debited and posted out?
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Anyone know what the situation is with away scheme members? Will the away leg of the play off be automatically debited and posted out?
I was led to believe that it’ll go to away attendance rather than away scheme first?
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The way Derby have looked to move back into form and after a big win today, I am VERY glad we're playing Boro who stunk the place out against Ipswich today despite equalising late. Let Derby and Fulham go hammer and tongs at one another for two legs while we take on PulisBall. Onwards!
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The way Derby have looked to move back into form and after a big win today, I am VERY glad we're playing Boro who stunk the place out against Ipswich today despite equalising late. Let Derby and Fulham go hammer and tongs at one another for two legs while we take on PulisBall. Onwards!
Agreed. I just said that Derby have their mojo back, they will be very confident.
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We are better than Boro and if we get to a final against Derby or Fulham, Derby have been pretty poor in recent months despite their late rally and Fulham will hopefully have the hangover of missing out on second place.
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What would be your starting XI and subs for the first leg of the play-offs assuming everyone is fit and available?
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We are better than Boro and if we get to a final against Derby or Fulham, Derby have been pretty poor in recent months despite their late rally and Fulham will hopefully have the hangover of missing out on second place.
I think at Wembley that form of the last month will matter less. Over two legs in your respective stadiums it may do more.
I'd fancy us against either in the final (if we get there!) for a few reasons - Fulham are in the classic just-missed-out frame of mind which never helps - and Derby have a colourful, recent history of bottling these big occasions. We have the manager for it and some vastly experienced players in these big games in our squad, from Jedinak, Elmo to of course Terry.
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Home tickets on sale from 5pm tonight. Away tickets on sale from tomorrow.
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From PRAVDA
https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2018/05/06/championship-play-off-semi-final-ticket-details
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Home tickets on sale from 5pm tonight. Away tickets on sale from tomorrow.
Thanks Richard
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We’ve played Boro at home twice this season and didn’t score in either game. Given our home record it’s unlikely they’ll escape a third time. Bring it on.
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Hotel booked for Friday night in Newcastle.
Bring it on.
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What would be your starting XI and subs for the first leg of the play-offs assuming everyone is fit and available?
Johnstone
El Mohamady - Chester - Terry - Hutton
Albert - Jedinak - Hourihane - Snodgrass
Grealish
Grabban
Subs: Bunn, Taylor, Whelan, Lansbury, Green, Kodija, RHM
Only two I hesitated over was Jedinak or Whelan, then RHM or Hogan on the bench but I think RHM would be a more useful impact sub (as he actually makes an impact).
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I feel physically sick watching Villa in run of the mill games. God knows what I’m going to be like for these.
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Bruce has usually come up trumps when it gets to games that really mean something / his job's on the line
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Bruce has usually come up trumps when it gets to games that really mean something / his job's on the line
Except Fulham away, Norwich away QPR at home, etc
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As expected only 2000 for boro away tickets cheeky gits
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Bruce has usually come up trumps when it gets to games that really mean something / his job's on the line
I’m hoping so but this year we have lost away at Wolves, Cardiff, Derby and Fulham so no he doesn’t win that many for us when it means something.
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Bruce has usually come up trumps when it gets to games that really mean something / his job's on the line
Except Fulham away, Norwich away QPR at home, etc
What a load of tripe, every Game haș mattered.
What about Wolves, Cardiff, Fulham At home this season, Sheffield teama Away, Boro Away.
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As expected only 2000 for boro away tickets cheeky gits
Bit tight that given we had 2800 in the league.
I would reciprocate. It will be a 1000 more than they usually bring anyway.
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I feel physically sick watching Villa in run of the mill games. God knows what I’m going to be like for these.
I normally love the playoffs - the outcome is so huge for the winner, the despair bottomless for the losers, and it’s never involved us so you could just kick back and enjoy.
I don’t have Ads’ endless faith...
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Bruce has usually come up trumps when it gets to games that really mean something / his job's on the line
Except Fulham away, Norwich away QPR at home, etc
What a load of tripe, every Game haș mattered.
What about Wolves, Cardiff, Fulham At home this season, Sheffield teama Away, Boro Away.
It’s the 11 defeats in total that mattered and wrecked our automatic chances.
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Bruce has usually come up trumps when it gets to games that really mean something / his job's on the line
Except Fulham away, Norwich away QPR at home, etc
What a load of tripe, every Game haș mattered.
What about Wolves, Cardiff, Fulham At home this season, Sheffield teama Away, Boro Away.
And we finished 4th.
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We will be at Wembley. What happens after that I can't say, but enjoy it my freinds.
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My jealousy over Cardiff's position has faded and the excitement is already taking over. It's going to be quite a week.
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Only one position up for grabs on the team, which of Jedinak, Whelan or BB partners Hourihane? I'd go with Jedinak. Think Bruce has rotated the squad well in recent weeks so our first choice players should be relatively fresh for next week.
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Got my ticket for the Home Leg £22 in the Lower Holte. Up the Villa.
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me too UTV!
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Only one position up for grabs on the team, which of Jedinak, Whelan or BB partners Hourihane? I'd go with Jedinak. Think Bruce has rotated the squad well in recent weeks so our first choice players should be relatively fresh for next week.
I would not start with Hourihane.
His goals are useful but too many games he is completely anonymous.
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We’ve played Boro at home twice this season and didn’t score in either game. Given our home record it’s unlikely they’ll escape a third time. Bring it on.
Can't really take the cup game as firm evidence, both teams put out scratch sides.
Other game was just one of those where we hit post, keeper, post again, Hogan on the goalline etc.
I think we can take Boro over two legs but it will be a low scoring and on edge two legs.
Fulham will be tougher although their level has dropped a fair bit last few weeks so hardly unbeatable as SHA showed today.
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If Boro get ahead over the 2 legs we are fucked.
So the first goal will be decisive I think.
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If Boro get ahead over the 2 legs we are fucked.
So the first goal will be decisive I think.
They will be difficult to break down and will have Adama pace on the break.
Important we don't lose up there I think. We get a 0-0 or 1-1 and I'd back us to finish the job at VP.
Do away goals count for this?
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If Boro get ahead over the 2 legs we are fucked.
So the first goal will be decisive I think.
They will be difficult to break down and will have Adama pace on the break.
Important we don't lose up there I think. We get a 0-0 or 1-1 and I'd back us to finish the job at VP.
Do away goals count for this?
No away goals
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Think we will do them 2 or 3 up at there place and scrape a 2-1 defeat at ours to see us through.
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Just got my ticket....don’t like the ‘upload to season ticket’ option.....far too many things to go wrong.
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It took me a while to figure out what should go in the Details field but realised it it should be the ACN on the card.
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If we lose up there we're fucked. Pulis would come to VP and park the bus and defend their lead. We've shown this season we lack a plan B when we go behind. Even last week, Derby were the most defensive team I've seen at VP this season and we could only manage a 1-1.
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So there you have it. Save your money folks.
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Only one position up for grabs on the team, which of Jedinak, Whelan or BB partners Hourihane? I'd go with Jedinak. Think Bruce has rotated the squad well in recent weeks so our first choice players should be relatively fresh for next week.
I would not start with Hourihane.
His goals are useful but too many games he is completely anonymous.
I think you will find a goal always trumps anonymity😊
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So there you have it. Save your money folks.
However what about the attendance figures? Surely that’s important😉
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So there you have it. Save your money folks.
However what about the attendance figures? Surely that’s important😉
What a pair of whoppers ;D
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So there you have it. Save your money folks.
However what about the attendance figures? Surely that’s important😉
And the one's that turn up will be embarrassing. No atmosphere.
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So there you have it. Save your money folks.
However what about the attendance figures? Surely that’s important😉
And the one's that turn up will be embarrassing. No atmosphere.
Get a room boys :-*
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If Boro get ahead over the 2 legs we are fucked.
So the first goal will be decisive I think.
They will be difficult to break down and will have Adama pace on the break.
Important we don't lose up there I think. We get a 0-0 or 1-1 and I'd back us to finish the job at VP.
Do away goals count for this?
No away goals
Seems a bit unfair, if we ‘win’ 3-0 up there it’s classed as 0-0, bloody football.
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I don’t get the negativity of the what if scenarios to be honest. More than ever, going into these games we have to be unified, positive and get behind the lads.
We show up to our ability then we win. Simple. Concentrate on what we can do ourselves. Boro or anyone for that matter would not be looking forward to a second leg at a packed VP in an evening game.
To quote Delia, come on.....! Let’s be having you
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The pie kiosk is certainly afraid!
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I don’t get the negativity of the what if scenarios to be honest. More than ever, going into these games we have to be unified, positive and get behind the lads.
We show up to our ability then we win. Simple. Concentrate on what we can do ourselves. Boro or anyone for that matter would not be looking forward to a second leg at a packed VP in an evening game.
To quote Delia, come on.....! Let’s be having you
This forum is great for getting your fears out there but I’m sure they’ll be 100% positivity in the ground.
Not so sure the dehlia quote is appropriate, wasn’t it a significant defeat for them that day? I do remember she sounded pissed.
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Just a little...
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I don’t get the negativity of the what if scenarios to be honest. More than ever, going into these games we have to be unified, positive and get behind the lads.
We show up to our ability then we win. Simple. Concentrate on what we can do ourselves. Boro or anyone for that matter would not be looking forward to a second leg at a packed VP in an evening game.
To quote Delia, come on.....! Let’s be having you
This forum is great for getting your fears out there but I’m sure they’ll be 100% positivity in the ground.
Not so sure the dehlia quote is appropriate, wasn’t it a significant defeat for them that day? I do remember she sounded pissed.
Wasn’t relating the delia moment to the result, just more the rallying call.
Let’s be honest, this whole process is new to all of us. Entering the unknown but for my own sanity and nerves I NEED to stay totally positive about what’s to come
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I don’t get the negativity of the what if scenarios to be honest. More than ever, going into these games we have to be unified, positive and get behind the lads.
We show up to our ability then we win. Simple. Concentrate on what we can do ourselves. Boro or anyone for that matter would not be looking forward to a second leg at a packed VP in an evening game.
To quote Delia, come on.....! Let’s be having you
This forum is great for getting your fears out there but I’m sure they’ll be 100% positivity in the ground.
Not so sure the dehlia quote is appropriate, wasn’t it a significant defeat for them that day? I do remember she sounded pissed.
Wasn’t relating the delia moment to the result, just more the rallying call.
Let’s be honest, this whole process is new to all of us. Entering the unknown but for my own sanity and nerves I NEED to stay totally positive about what’s to come
I’m doing what I always do, hoping for the best and fearing it will all end in tears. I’m not sure that my nerves can take it to be honest.
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I don’t get the negativity of the what if scenarios to be honest. More than ever, going into these games we have to be unified, positive and get behind the lads.
We show up to our ability then we win. Simple. Concentrate on what we can do ourselves. Boro or anyone for that matter would not be looking forward to a second leg at a packed VP in an evening game.
To quote Delia, come on.....! Let’s be having you
This forum is great for getting your fears out there but I’m sure they’ll be 100% positivity in the ground.
Not so sure the dehlia quote is appropriate, wasn’t it a significant defeat for them that day? I do remember she sounded pissed.
Wasn’t relating the delia moment to the result, just more the rallying call.
Let’s be honest, this whole process is new to all of us. Entering the unknown but for my own sanity and nerves I NEED to stay totally positive about what’s to come
I’m doing what I always do, hoping for the best and fearing it will all end in tears. I’m not sure that my nerves can take it to be honest.
It’s going to be a stressful next 8 days
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Why the stress, we will piss all over Boro.
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Derby have given Fulham 3100 for their semi.
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Why the stress, we will piss all over Boro.
Been reading these sort of predictions all season.
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Why the stress, we will piss all over Boro.
Been reading these sort of predictions all season.
Try two years.
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I'm not predicting.
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Why the stress, we will piss all over Boro.
Been reading these sort of predictions all season.
Try two years.
I put the first year down to youthful exuberance.
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Why the stress, we will piss all over Boro.
What evidence is there that we will "piss all over" them?
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Why the stress, we will piss all over Boro.
What evidence is there that we will "piss all over" them?
Kompromat footage in the Kremlin archives.
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Boro haven't beaten any of the top 4 all season in the league (2 draws 6 losses)...Let's hope that stat stays true.
Over two legs, we shouldn't be fearing them...hopefully Fulham have blown out early too.
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Boro scored from two corners today....dosen't take a genius to work out where we need to be strong defensively at.
Been a weak point at various points this season with Johnstone flapping at a few which have lead to goals.
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I know it was in the cup with two vastly different 11's, but that cup game against them was a total horror show and if that cnut Bamford celebrates like he did then in front of the Holte - should he score - I'll explode.
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Our season starts again with the playoffs. We need to make a better start to them than we did the regular season last August or we could be out after two games. We need to aim for 3 wins! I know promotion can be achieved with less, but we're Aston Villa, we need to aim high and raise expectations! We need to enter the playoffs with a premier mindset and not a championship one. Come on Villa boys! UTV!
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What'sthe promotion code it asks for when you try tobook your own STseat?
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What'sthe promotion code it asks for when you try tobook your own STseat?
It's the secret number that ensures promotion to the top flight ...
... Or: it's a promotional code that you may have from a competition or refund for ticket discount. Ignore it unless you have either.
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What'sthe promotion code it asks for when you try tobook your own STseat?
It's the secret number that ensures promotion to the top flight ...
... Or: it's a promotional code that you may have from a competition or refund for ticket discount.
Sortd it now
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Our season starts again with the playoffs. We need to make a better start to them than we did the regular season last August or we could be out after two games. We need to aim for 3 wins! I know promotion can be achieved with less, but we're Aston Villa, we need to aim high and raise expectations! We need to enter the playoffs with a premier mindset and not a championship one. Come on Villa boys! UTV!
Totally agree, it’s all about approaching both legs with a positive mindset. We have an excellent squad full of experience and ability which has produced some great football at key times this season. It will be a real white knuckle ride for sure, as that’s simply the Villa way.
Time off work booked ✅ train tickets purchased ✅ and match ticket ordered ✅
Let’s all pull together and help make this a massive 3 weeks in the history of our famous club. No more looking back over this season and negativity please guys, we all want the same thing for Aston Villa Football Club !
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Why the stress, we will piss all over Boro.
What evidence is there that we will "piss all over" them?
Kompromat footage in the Kremlin archives.
Netanyahu has it all in arch lever files behind a curtain.
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Why the stress, we will piss all over Boro.
What evidence is there that we will "piss all over" them?
Because we are Aston Villa. That's all the proof you require.
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Bloody on line ticket office wont let me proceed to check out no matter if I try to upload to season card or have tickets posted.
I know I have until Wednesday but these little things piss me off
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Why the stress, we will piss all over Boro.
What evidence is there that we will "piss all over" them?
Because we are Aston Villa. That's all the proof you require.
Respectfully, what a load of shite.
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Why the stress, we will piss all over Boro.
What evidence is there that we will "piss all over" them?
Because we are Aston Villa. That's all the proof you require.
Respectfully, what a load of shite.
But your comment isn't respectful in any way. Get a sense of humour ATAL.
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Bloody on line ticket office wont let me proceed to check out no matter if I try to upload to season card or have tickets posted.
I know I have until Wednesday but these little things piss me off
I was going around in circles last night with a similar problem.
I eventually discovered that there is a little box to the left of your details that needs to be ticked before you proceed.
That's not what's happening in your case is it?
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Why the stress, we will piss all over Boro.
What evidence is there that we will "piss all over" them?
Because we are Aston Villa. That's all the proof you require.
Respectfully, what a load of shite.
What’s wrong with having a bit of confidence? We’ve taken 4 points of Boro this season, they’re hardly world beaters.
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Why the stress, we will piss all over Boro.
What evidence is there that we will "piss all over" them?
Because we are Aston Villa. That's all the proof you require.
Respectfully, what a load of shite.
Miserablist alert!
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Would you like to bet against us?
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Why the stress, we will piss all over Boro.
What evidence is there that we will "piss all over" them?
Because we are Aston Villa. That's all the proof you require.
Respectfully, what a load of shite.
Miserablist alert!
It's called realism, Pete3206. 3205 and his predecessors would have understood that.
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It's called realism, Pete3206. 3205 and his predecessors would have understood that.
Your reply wasn't being realistic, it was unwarranted. Cut it out.
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Anyone not using their reference for Boro away? Been to 7 away but the criteria starts at 15 and goes down to 10. With an allocation of 2k this is going to be tricky to get one
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It's called realism, Pete3206. 3205 and his predecessors would have understood that.
Your reply wasn't being realistic, it was unwarranted. Cut it out.
Cut what out? I disagreed with a poster who thinks that just being Aston Villa is enough to carry us through a tricky playoff scenario. If there's a problem, send me a PM and explain, otherwise I will carry on engaging with other posters in an open and honest fashion. Cheers Dave
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Do season ticket holders automatically get the Boro home ticket loaded onto their ST card? I bought mine online but I’m sure I ticked a box which said ‘post’.
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No SH..you have to select ‘upload to season ticket’ option.
I did it but I don’t like it. I’m in the hands of technology now that I’ll get to the ground and get in without problems.
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Anyone not using their reference for Boro away? Been to 7 away but the criteria starts at 15 and goes down to 10. With an allocation of 2k this is going to be tricky to get one
I've got 14 so i need to be quickerty quick on Wednesday night. 7 might not be enough but good luck anyway.
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It's called realism, Pete3206. 3205 and his predecessors would have understood that.
Your reply wasn't being realistic, it was unwarranted. Cut it out.
Cut what out? I disagreed with a poster who thinks that just being Aston Villa is enough to carry us through a tricky playoff scenario. If there's a problem, send me a PM and explain, otherwise I will carry on engaging with other posters in an open and honest fashion. Cheers Dave
Calling someone else's opinion "a load of shite" is unacceptable.
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No SH..you have to select ‘upload to season ticket’ option.
I did it but I don’t like it. I’m in the hands of technology now that I’ll get to the ground and get in without problems.
Oh shit.
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Any suggestions please .... trying to purchase home ticket but getting error message as price is zero - cant find a way to overcome
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I had real difficulties yesterday - ticked the upload to ST box and received a confirmation that I paid but beinbg the Luddite I am not too comfortable with it. Knowing my luck i'll rock up a week tomorrow and find my card doesn't turn green.
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No SH..you have to select ‘upload to season ticket’ option.
I did it but I don’t like it. I’m in the hands of technology now that I’ll get to the ground and get in without problems.
Oh shit.
I guess it means you’ll get a paper ticket instead.
To be honest, i’m taking my email confirmation printout just in case, so I’ll have a paper print and my ST, so there there is not a lot of difference between the options.
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No SH..you have to select ‘upload to season ticket’ option.
I did it but I don’t like it. I’m in the hands of technology now that I’ll get to the ground and get in without problems.
Oh shit.
I guess it means you’ll get a paper ticket instead.
To be honest, i’m taking my email confirmation printout just in case, so I’ll have a paper print and my ST, so there there is not a lot of difference between the options.
Yeah, I bought it on my phone and just assumed it’d be uploaded automatically. No worries though.
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Apologies JD. Wasn't personal, I just thought your comment amounted to nonsense! Can we reconcile?
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What the relationship wasn't platonic?
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Apologies JD. Wasn't personal, I just thought your comment amounted to nonsense! Can we reconcile?
As I see it, all 4 teams have more or less an equal chance. Perhaps "a lottery" is taking it a bit far but there is hardly anything between any of the 4 sides and any one of them could beat another on their day (as was demonstrated in the league fixtures)
Each side has merits and weaknesses. For me, our biggest weapon is our experience and let's hope that cometh the hour, cometh the man and all of that.
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We have nothing to fear but fear itself.
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I don’t think a Derby Boro final is out of the question.
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I just can't see any team tonking anybody else. The precedent for a cagey and difficult contest is set by previous playoffs over the last few years, and as ChicagoLion suggests, even the least likely outcome is far from being out of the question.
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Wouldn't surprise me to drill Boro. It could well be a close game, but if we catch fire, we're likely to hammer them.
We have the players and the knowhow. Bring it on.
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Don't see us hammering any Pulis team otherwise we would've done it in the prem.
I think a 1-1 up there and then finishing the job 2-0 at VP is what I hope will happen.
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They will undoubtedly be tough matches, just as they would've been against Derby or Fulham also. They wont be fearing us and we shouldn't be fearing them.
Just take it as it comes.
If we go up, brilliant. If we don't, we try again next season.
Just enjoy the drama of it.
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Don't see us hammering any Pulis team otherwise we would've done it in the prem.
I think a 1-1 up there and then finishing the job 2-0 at VP is what I hope will happen.
Take that all day long
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Anyone not using their reference for Boro away? Been to 7 away but the criteria starts at 15 and goes down to 10. With an allocation of 2k this is going to be tricky to get one
I've got 14 so i need to be quickerty quick on Wednesday night. 7 might not be enough but good luck anyway.
Likewise, good luck mate 🙏🏻
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The play off odds on each team to go up are Fulham 13/8 favourites, Villa and Boro both 11/4 and Derby 9/2 outsiders.
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Just looking at the email confirmation after buying my ticket for the home leg.
I chose the option to have my season card activated instead of receiving a hard ticket.
On the email confirmation, there is a box for delivery method:
Transaction Total £28.00 Transaction ID 1786494
Delivery Method Transaction Date 06/05/2018
When I have bought tickets for away games, this box always has the word "post" inserted.
For those worried about modern technology, all you need do is take a print out of that email notification. Worst case scenario, it's a trip to the ticket office to resolve the issue.
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Anyone not using their reference for Boro away? Been to 7 away but the criteria starts at 15 and goes down to 10. With an allocation of 2k this is going to be tricky to get one
I've got 14 so i need to be quickerty quick on Wednesday night. 7 might not be enough but good luck anyway.
Likewise, good luck mate 🙏🏻
I had another look earlier and i've actually got 15 so we should be ok.
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Anyone not using their reference for Boro away? Been to 7 away but the criteria starts at 15 and goes down to 10. With an allocation of 2k this is going to be tricky to get one
I've got 14 so i need to be quickerty quick on Wednesday night. 7 might not be enough but good luck anyway.
Likewise, good luck mate 🙏🏻
I had another look earlier and i've actually got 15 so we should be ok.
Anyone with 15 aways is guaranteed a ticket, if they want one of course. As soon as it drops to the next criteria it will sell out instantly.
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Bloody on line ticket office wont let me proceed to check out no matter if I try to upload to season card or have tickets posted.
I know I have until Wednesday but these little things piss me off
Just look at the screens exile there is a simple answer somewhere like you have not clicked on something. It's reasonably logical.
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I don’t think a Derby Boro final is out of the question.
No it's not but it will be a Villa v Whoever final.
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I don’t think a Derby Boro final is out of the question.
No it's not but it will be a Villa v Whoever final.
So it is then.
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Got my home tickets. Waiting on away. Four of us from Bournemouth trying to get tickets. 640 mile round trip!
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Just trying to get my away ticket and there's 3200 online ahead of me. Crikey.
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I went to get my home leg ticket and was in the queue fifteen minutes before it opened, and was still 850 odd in line. A couple of minutes later, on another device, it was over 3000.
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Just trying to get my away ticket and there's 3200 online ahead of me. Crikey.
If those figures are accurate then this game is sold out tonight
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Just trying to get my away ticket and there's 3200 online ahead of me. Crikey.
If those figures are accurate then this game is sold out tonight
The queue will be for both games.
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They must be releasing in blocks as there was barely any choice amongst the away tickets. £22 is decent.
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Bugger. I have been buying tickets for 8 previous home games for my daughter and I but haven’t assigned them to her. All tickets in my name and now I can’t get two tickets for Boro home and she doesn’t have any history. And presumably same for Wembley >:(
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You can try calling them and explaining but no guarantee. Always remember to assign tickets to a client ref, it comes up every time we have big games.
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I need to do the same for Before Wembley. Luckily Mr Amfy does have a booking history, but I need to add the 3 where games I actually bought tickets for him this season to it. I am going to wait until the semi-final Rush has died down, but do it before the end of this round just in case.
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Bugger. I have been buying tickets for 8 previous home games for my daughter and I but haven’t assigned them to her. All tickets in my name and now I can’t get two tickets for Boro home and she doesn’t have any history. And presumably same for Wembley >:(
They were pretty good with me once in similar circumstances - is obvious you wouldnt buy 2 for yourself (unless you’re 30 stone and wamted one for each cheek) so you need to convince them they were all for the same person - should be fine if its family - does she have a reference number?
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Just trying to get my away ticket and there's 3200 online ahead of me. Crikey.
If those figures are accurate then this game is sold out tonight
The queue will be for both games.
👍🏻
Think the suns gone to my head today, that obviously makes sense 🙈
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Bugger. I have been buying tickets for 8 previous home games for my daughter and I but haven’t assigned them to her. All tickets in my name and now I can’t get two tickets for Boro home and she doesn’t have any history. And presumably same for Wembley >:(
They were pretty good with me once in similar circumstances - is obvious you wouldnt buy 2 for yourself (unless you’re 30 stone and wamted one for each cheek) so you need to convince them they were all for the same person - should be fine if its family - does she have a reference number?
I’m carrying a few pounds but not near 30 stone!
She has a historic reference from when she has been before, I think. Its one of these things that needs sorting in person and I can’t get to the TO until much later this week
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Just trying to get my away ticket and there's 3200 online ahead of me. Crikey.
If those figures are accurate then this game is sold out tonight
The queue will be for both games.
No. I bought at about 3.15pm for home game and there were 3 in front of me.
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Just trying to get my away ticket and there's 3200 online ahead of me. Crikey.
If those figures are accurate then this game is sold out tonight
The queue will be for both games.
No. I bought at about 3.15pm for home game and there were 3 in front of me.
That queue is for both games.........The home leg has now gone down to people who have been to 3 home games this season and season ticket holders from 17:00pm
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Oh ok gates are open now.
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Finally sorted tickets for home leg. Bloomin hard work. I can only describe the online site as ‘cluncky’ at best.
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As expected only 2000 for boro away tickets cheeky gits
Just been speaking to a Boro fan on twitter and seems like we’re cheeky gits too as we’re only giving them 2000.I asked if he knew who took the initial decision but he didn’t .
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Their details haven't officially been released so I suspect with merely reciprocated.
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Their details haven't officially been released so I suspect with merely reciprocated.
Especially if we can't fill the seats with our own fans.
Well done Villa - Absolutely the right thing to do.
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As mentioned before there is something to be had with Steve Agnew involved at villa as he has previous knowledge of boro and will know some things. It's a good bonus to have for sure.
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This might sound sour, but if we do win the play offs, I hope we don’t opt for a civic reception/party in the park type affair. It’s exactly the kind of thing Blues would do, especially with them owning the city and all that.
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This might sound sour, but if we do win the play offs, I hope we don’t opt for a civic reception/party in the park type affair. It’s exactly the kind of thing Blues would do, especially with them owning the city and all that.
I agree. Having a reception for winning the play offs would be tinpot. We will hopefully have our day at Wembley to celebrate.
That mob across the city invade the pitch because they stayed up.
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I really hate Pulis. He has revelled in Albion being above us last few years, I hated how he used coming to the game at half time at Stoke to turn the momentum and claiming the Pennant free kick was genuine when there was no Villa player in touching distance, I hated watching him celebrate when they came from behind to draw 2-2 at Villa Park in a game that must be a bit of a watershed moment. He has been a source of continual pain for Villa over the last few years. Please don't let him be dancing in his shitty cap come the end of the 2nd leg.
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Wasn't dancing when we did the Stripey Filth twice in a week.
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This might sound sour, but if we do win the play offs, I hope we don’t opt for a civic reception/party in the park type affair. It’s exactly the kind of thing Blues would do, especially with them owning the city and all that.
Likewise, tthe players dancing around singing ‘we are premier league’.
If it happens I hope we show some dignity.
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Apologies JD. Wasn't personal, I just thought your comment amounted to nonsense! Can we reconcile?
That's why I said get a sense of humour ATAL. It was partly said in jest. No damage done young fella.
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if we get to the other side of this victorious, how much money will we have to strengthen? as I would say we would need 8 first team players to stand any chance in the prem.
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if we get to the other side of this victorious, how much money will we have to strengthen? as I would say we would need 8 first team players to stand any chance in the prem.
I reckon there could be a fair bit of money there to rebuild (I hope), but of course I think it will depend on getting promoted.
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if we get to the other side of this victorious, how much money will we have to strengthen? as I would say we would need 8 first team players to stand any chance in the prem.
I reckon there could be a fair bit of money there to rebuild (I hope), but of course I think it will depend on getting promoted.
Terry
Chester
Johnstone
Grealish
Snodgrass
Adomah
Grabban
Kodja
Can all cut it in the prem. But Tony will have big plans if we can get there. I am nervous thinking about what we are about to go through. But positive. We have the players and the mental strength UTV ....
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What's everyone doing for travel up to boro?
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Did mine online for the home game. Threw me right back to the start when I had to edit ticket to get the price category. Selected Collection Method 'Upload to Card' and selected the relevant card number, and even though my printout shows that, there's still a line above saying 'You have selected to upload your tickets to a card (0)'. Payment all gone through so sure it will be fine, but think I'll take the printout just in case.
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Apart from having to edit my ticket, it was pretty easy. Just need to sort the away one now.
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I need to do the same for Before Wembley. Luckily Mr Amfy does have a booking history, but I need to add the 3 where games I actually bought tickets for him this season to it. I am going to wait until the semi-final Rush has died down, but do it before the end of this round just in case.
Isn't he a Preston fan? He'll only be sulking that his team aren't there. Better off offering it to a Villa fan like Jane :)
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Anyone needing a booking reference for home semi please email me - but I cannot be responsible for the villa sending tickets out late and you must be a fairly known poster on hero’s
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Chances of Danny booking the clay oven- went there for the semi and Wealdstone before the final and met the raider ha ha
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I really hate Pulis. He has revelled in Albion being above us last few years, I hated how he used coming to the game at half time at Stoke to turn the momentum and claiming the Pennant free kick was genuine when there was no Villa player in touching distance, I hated watching him celebrate when they came from behind to draw 2-2 at Villa Park in a game that must be a bit of a watershed moment. He has been a source of continual pain for Villa over the last few years. Please don't let him be dancing in his shitty cap come the end of the 2nd leg.
Facing Middlesbrough under him will be tough because he will have them very organised and hard to break down. On the flip side of that though, I don't think they will show as much attacking intent as other sides might have and will look to nick the games rather than come out and have a real go at winning them.
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Goal-line technology: EFL approves use in all 12 play-off matches
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44043864
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Goal-line technology: EFL approves use in all 12 play-off matches
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44043864
Why just the semi-finals though? Why not announce it for all 15 games at the same time?
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the last thing we need against Tiny is any additional shady shit going on so this is good news
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I really hate Pulis. He has revelled in Albion being above us last few years, I hated how he used coming to the game at half time at Stoke to turn the momentum and claiming the Pennant free kick was genuine when there was no Villa player in touching distance, I hated watching him celebrate when they came from behind to draw 2-2 at Villa Park in a game that must be a bit of a watershed moment. He has been a source of continual pain for Villa over the last few years. Please don't let him be dancing in his shitty cap come the end of the 2nd leg.
Facing Middlesbrough under him will be tough because he will have them very organised and hard to break down. On the flip side of that though, I don't think they will show as much attacking intent as other sides might have and will look to nick the games rather than come out and have a real go at winning them.
They've been scoring a few of late, they've just started to click. IF we're on top form, we have nothing to worry about. But we've had some terrible performances this season which is making me extremely nervous. We need to be at the top of our game.
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The same applies for Boro. They're a bit ordinary to say The least. Typical workman like Pulis.
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Apart from having to edit my ticket, it was pretty easy. Just need to sort the away one now.
Just got mine
Had a go at editing them but Champions League Final 17/18 across the top didn't work........
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Apart from having to edit my ticket, it was pretty easy. Just need to sort the away one now.
Just got mine
Had a go at editing them but Champions League Final 17/18 across the top didn't work........
You must have accidentally clicked on the Wolves website....
I can live with £20 for the play off semi but will be intrigued to see the Wembley pricing when we get through. If it is at cup final levels that would be massively taking the piss.
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I need to do the same for Before Wembley. Luckily Mr Amfy does have a booking history, but I need to add the 3 where games I actually bought tickets for him this season to it. I am going to wait until the semi-final Rush has died down, but do it before the end of this round just in case.
Isn't he a Preston fan? He'll only be sulking that his team aren't there. Better off offering it to a Villa fan like Jane :)
Jane avoids midweek games at the best of times (and will be in Greece anyway).
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The same applies for Boro. They're a bit ordinary to say The least. Typical workman like Pulis.
we have nothing to fear from any of the other play off teams
and I'm sure all their fans are saying exactly the same
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I agree but I'm still gonna be a nervous wreck, when the play offs start.
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There’s nothing to fear, but equally there’s nothing to suggest we should have any great confidence either. I hope we win obviously, but we do tend to turn out a lot of mediocre displays. Hopefully the limited margin for error will bring out our best.
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Best thing i've heard anyone say about the play off's was in the pub last night. And it came from a Doghead
"If your worrying about playing Derby, Fulham or Boro you shouldn't be aiming to get promoted anyway"
He's right.
And that goes for all of them worrying about us as well.
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Best thing i've heard anyone say about the play off's was in the pub last night. And it came from a Doghead
"If your worrying about playing Derby, Fulham or Boro you shouldn't be aiming to get promoted anyway"
He's right.
And that goes for all of them worrying about us as well.
I disagree. If we go up, the team next season will be entirely different to the one who plays against Boro. Warnock has stated he wants to bring 6 players in.
The play offs are tight and any one of the 4 teams can win it. If Wolves were in the play offs, that doghead would be just as worried as we are.
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Its the fact that you End up in the play offs is the thing to be worried about.
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Its the fact that you End up in the play offs is the thing to be worried about.
I'm not sure it bothered Huddersfield last season that much.
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Apart from having to edit my ticket, it was pretty easy. Just need to sort the away one now.
Just got mine
Had a go at editing them but Champions League Final 17/18 across the top didn't work........
You must have accidentally clicked on the Wolves website....
I can live with £20 for the play off semi but will be intrigued to see the Wembley pricing when we get through. If it is at cup final levels that would be massively taking the piss.
A quick google search revealed last years prices as £98, £76, £64, £52 and £36.
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Its the fact that you End up in the play offs is the thing to be worried about.
I'm not sure it bothered Huddersfield last season that much.
ask how Wednesday Fulham and Reading enjoyed it.
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Its the fact that you End up in the play offs is the thing to be worried about.
I'm not sure it bothered Huddersfield last season that much.
ask how Wednesday Fulham and Reading enjoyed it.
Does it or does it not get you promoted if you win the play off final?
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Its the fact that you End up in the play offs is the thing to be worried about.
I'm not sure it bothered Huddersfield last season that much.
ask how Wednesday Fulham and Reading enjoyed it.
Does it or does it not get you promoted if you win the play off final?
So does First or Second without the drama, any way you got your wish.
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Its the fact that you End up in the play offs is the thing to be worried about.
I'm not sure it bothered Huddersfield last season that much.
ask how Wednesday Fulham and Reading enjoyed it.
Does it or does it not get you promoted if you win the play off final?
So does First or Second without the drama, any way you got your wish.
What wish was that? Please enlighten me.
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Apart from having to edit my ticket, it was pretty easy. Just need to sort the away one now.
Just got mine
Had a go at editing them but Champions League Final 17/18 across the top didn't work........
You must have accidentally clicked on the Wolves website....
I can live with £20 for the play off semi but will be intrigued to see the Wembley pricing when we get through. If it is at cup final levels that would be massively taking the piss.
A quick google search revealed last years prices as £98, £76, £64, £52 and £36.
Yep the whole Wembley "experience" will be in full swing.
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There’s nothing to fear, but equally there’s nothing to suggest we should have any great confidence either. I hope we win obviously, but we do tend to turn out a lot of mediocre displays. Hopefully the limited margin for error will bring out our best.
"There's nothing to fear but fear itself"
"Do you wana bet against us?"
Great quotes from great men. Just thought i'd throw them in the mix.
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Just found out my mate went to buy a ticket today only to be told he couldn’t as a ticket had already been purchased on his ID no. He hasn’t already bought it and found out someone else has used his ID. Anyone else experienced this? If so, did the ticket office do anything?
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Just found out my mate went to buy a ticket today only to be told he couldn’t as a ticket had already been purchased on his ID no. He hasn’t already bought it and found out someone else has used his ID. Anyone else experienced this? If so, did the ticket office do anything?
I would have thought they should be able to block the original purchase and re-issue as long as he can prove his ID?
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Just found out my mate went to buy a ticket today only to be told he couldn’t as a ticket had already been purchased on his ID no. He hasn’t already bought it and found out someone else has used his ID. Anyone else experienced this? If so, did the ticket office do anything?
I would have thought they should be able to block the original purchase and re-issue as long as he can prove his ID?
That’s what we thought. Wasn’t sure if the ticket office would care what with all the demand and how busy they are.
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Just found out my mate went to buy a ticket today only to be told he couldn’t as a ticket had already been purchased on his ID no. He hasn’t already bought it and found out someone else has used his ID. Anyone else experienced this? If so, did the ticket office do anything?
I would have thought they should be able to block the original purchase and re-issue as long as he can prove his ID?
That’s what we thought. Wasn’t sure if the ticket office would care what with all the demand and how busy they are.
I am sure they will care and should be able to check where the ticket has gone to......via post, email, etc and the name on the card that was used for the transaction....This is the sort of thing best sorted out in person though
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Apart from having to edit my ticket, it was pretty easy. Just need to sort the away one now.
Just got mine
Had a go at editing them but Champions League Final 17/18 across the top didn't work........
You must have accidentally clicked on the Wolves website....
I can live with £20 for the play off semi but will be intrigued to see the Wembley pricing when we get through. If it is at cup final levels that would be massively taking the piss.
A quick google search revealed last years prices as £98, £76, £64, £52 and £36.
Yep the whole Wembley "experience" will be in full swing.
I'm yet to have a good view at Wembley. I even spent £100 odd on the Cup Final ticket and still ended up in a corner.
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Apart from having to edit my ticket, it was pretty easy. Just need to sort the away one now.
Just got mine
Had a go at editing them but Champions League Final 17/18 across the top didn't work........
You must have accidentally clicked on the Wolves website....
I can live with £20 for the play off semi but will be intrigued to see the Wembley pricing when we get through. If it is at cup final levels that would be massively taking the piss.
A quick google search revealed last years prices as £98, £76, £64, £52 and £36.
Yep the whole Wembley "experience" will be in full swing.
I'm yet to have a good view at Wembley. I even spent £100 odd on the Cup Final ticket and still ended up in a corner.
I think the most annoying thing is that there seems to be no pattern to sales. Jane and I got ours for the 2015 Cup Final as Season Ticket holders who'd been to every round, yet ended up in the same block, only about 10 rows in front, of our husbands who'd scraped their tickets by buying for 3 games AFTER we got to the final! Even then - 2 of those were junior tickets as they couldn't actually get to the games but just bought tickets to get the 'stubs'.
In 2010 I got our tickets within 5 minutes of the lines opening, and ended up above the Royal Box - which sounds good but it's really high up, and if we'd won the cup we wouldn't have seen us collect it!
You would think there could be some option to get a better choice of tickets for those who meet higher qualifying criteria. Apparently, for the 2015 semi-final - tickets on the half way line were released after they'd been selling for about a week already! For that one we were right on the back wall of the bottom tier behind the goal with a post box view! - Although - banging like mad on that wall to make as much noise as possible was great fun!
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Don't worry, we won't get to the play-off final.
I've already booked a hotel for the 26th.
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thanks for that.
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I'm yet to have a good view at Wembley. I even spent £100 odd on the Cup Final ticket and still ended up in a corner.
I think the most annoying thing is that there seems to be no pattern to sales. Jane and I got ours for the 2015 Cup Final as Season Ticket holders who'd been to every round, yet ended up in the same block, only about 10 rows in front, of our husbands who'd scraped their tickets by buying for 3 games AFTER we got to the final! Even then - 2 of those were junior tickets as they couldn't actually get to the games but just bought tickets to get the 'stubs'.
In 2010 I got our tickets within 5 minutes of the lines opening, and ended up above the Royal Box - which sounds good but it's really high up, and if we'd won the cup we wouldn't have seen us collect it!
You would think there could be some option to get a better choice of tickets for those who meet higher qualifying criteria. Apparently, for the 2015 semi-final - tickets on the half way line were released after they'd been selling for about a week already! For that one we were right on the back wall of the bottom tier behind the goal with a post box view! - Although - banging like mad on that wall to make as much noise as possible was great fun!
Yeah - my history is similarly erratic too. Almost identical viewpoints for the League Cup Final and FA Cup Semi v Chelsea. Except we got the 'second tier' for the first and cheapest for the latter.
FA Cup semi v Liverpool was probaby my best view, although upper tier I was near the front - that was the cheapest option. Then the most expensive for the final, which I think was £110. Near the front but stuffed in the corner so not a good view at all.
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I had the same seat in the semi-final that I had for the Final in 2015, but it cost me £20.00 more.
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My lucky Wembley end must be behind the goal to the right of the royal box where I was for the '94 final against United and the 2000 Bolton semi. If I am anywhere else it doesn't end well.
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Bobby Madley's the ref for the game at Boro' and our dear friend Mike Dean's the ref for the home leg.
You just know Dean's going to have some influence one way or another.
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Bobby Madley's the ref for the game at Boro' and our dear friend Mike Dean's the ref for the home leg.
You just know Dean's going to have some influence one way or another.
Christ. Mike Dean? I don’t think we’ve ever won a game that he’s been the referee for.
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Sure it's been covered so apologies but do away goals count in the play offs?
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No, they don't.
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So a conservative approach on Saturday would be expected? If we get a 0-0 up there, then an early Boro goal on Tuesday would not be anywhere near as bad then if they did count.
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https://youtu.be/5a4R8JH3aDI
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So a conservative approach on Saturday would be expected? If we get a 0-0 up there, then an early Boro goal on Tuesday would not be anywhere near as bad then if they did count.
All immaterial. Whip ‘em 3-0 Saturday and 2-0 up by half time Tuesday evening should do it.
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Quoted from the guardian article by Ben Fisher
“Last season, Huddersfield were promoted with a negative goal difference, while in 2007 Derby went up via the play-offs, despite winning only six of their final 15 games of the regular season."
“But since 1992, the inception of the play-off system in its current four-team format involving the teams between third and sixth, the third-placed team has the most favourable record. In those 26 seasons, the team that finished third has won promotion on nine occasions (35%), fourth, four times (15%), fifth, eight times (31%) and sixth, five times (19%). In the past 10 seasons, the third-placed side has won promotion on four occasions, most recently Norwich City in 2015.“
"Fulham finished third after blowing the chance to gain passage to the Premier League at Cardiff City’s expense but have the chance to redeem themselves when they travel to Derby County on Friday evening before the second leg at Craven Cottage on Monday. They are yet to win a play-off game in six attempts, two of which came last season against Reading."
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My lucky Wembley end must be behind the goal to the right of the royal box where I was for the '94 final against United and the 2000 Bolton semi. If I am anywhere else it doesn't end well.
You might have to go and sit with our oppositions fans...
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Apart from having to edit my ticket, it was pretty easy. Just need to sort the away one now.
Just got mine
Had a go at editing them but Champions League Final 17/18 across the top didn't work........
You must have accidentally clicked on the Wolves website....
I can live with £20 for the play off semi but will be intrigued to see the Wembley pricing when we get through. If it is at cup final levels that would be massively taking the piss.
A quick google search revealed last years prices as £98, £76, £64, £52 and £36.
Yep the whole Wembley "experience" will be in full swing.
I'm yet to have a good view at Wembley. I even spent £100 odd on the Cup Final ticket and still ended up in a corner.
I think the most annoying thing is that there seems to be no pattern to sales. Jane and I got ours for the 2015 Cup Final as Season Ticket holders who'd been to every round, yet ended up in the same block, only about 10 rows in front, of our husbands who'd scraped their tickets by buying for 3 games AFTER we got to the final! Even then - 2 of those were junior tickets as they couldn't actually get to the games but just bought tickets to get the 'stubs'.
In 2010 I got our tickets within 5 minutes of the lines opening, and ended up above the Royal Box - which sounds good but it's really high up, and if we'd won the cup we wouldn't have seen us collect it!
You would think there could be some option to get a better choice of tickets for those who meet higher qualifying criteria. Apparently, for the 2015 semi-final - tickets on the half way line were released after they'd been selling for about a week already! For that one we were right on the back wall of the bottom tier behind the goal with a post box view! - Although - banging like mad on that wall to make as much noise as possible was great fun!
Wembley is a lottery and it shouldn't be. Had great seats v Liverpool and less so v Arsenal. Terrible low seats v Man U when I was a STH
Problem was you could only pick a big section where you wanted to go, not the specific area or seat. Buying on line via VP is generally good, buying for Wembley will be the usual havoc, but as long as we go up.......
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So a conservative approach on Saturday would be expected? If we get a 0-0 up there, then an early Boro goal on Tuesday would not be anywhere near as bad then if they did count.
All immaterial. Whip ‘em 3-0 Saturday and 2-0 up by half time Tuesday evening should do it.
I'd still be shitting myself at half time
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If you're shitting it, it will be worse for Boro having to come into a cauldron of Villa Park, 40,000 home fans under lights, stadium bouncing, with opposition players in claret and blue who've played in many a night like this before.
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Still quite a few tickets left (mostly single seats though) and now on general sale.
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I've just had a look at the seating map for K2 to see if those who sit around me had got their tickets and there are just 4 single seats left in the whole block.
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Got my ticket, glory hunting twat that I am.
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Do we think it will sell out? I reckon around 38k-39k with some empties in the Upper Trinity and Upper Witton.
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I had a notification from the villa today that said over 30k tickets sold in 3 days.
Bloody hell, thats some going.
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I would be very surprised if it didn't sell out
Why would a near enough dead rubber against derby sell out and not semi final?
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Of course it'll sell out. Frankly I'd be embarrassed for us if it didn't.
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Do we think it will sell out? I reckon around 38k-39k with some empties in the Upper Trinity and Upper Witton.
Don't understand why Derby would sell out and Boro wouldn't.
It will be 40k + no bother.
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I guess the high gate v Derby was due to it being a rare Saturday home game at 3pm against a decent rival and at the time a slight chance it might be our last home game of the seaaon when tickets were on sale.
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I’m trying to buy one online for my mate, I’ve already got min early uploaded to my ST. As it’s on general sale I should now be able to do this shouldn’t I?
I can only get as far as clicking on the part of the ground I want the ticket for and no further.
EDIT: Even on general sale you cant buy more tickets on your reference. All sorted now though with a couple of seldom used references
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We're selling 10k per day. Should sell out Friday.
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Downing has started to pull out of his first tackle already.
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I bought tickets for the home leg for me and my dad online and uploaded to the season ticket. The confirmation email usefully makes no mention that I've chosen the upload option and is just generic, saying things like "if you've chosen to print your ticket, don't forget to print your ticket" but not "if you've chosen to upload your ticket, don't panic, we thought it would be fun not to confirm this for you"
Like another poster on here, the delivery method is blank.
If I then look at my season tickets in the menu under my name in the top right-hand corner, it is saying there are zero games left on my season ticket, whereas I thought it should now be showing 1.
Is this the same for other people who've chosen the upload option?
Thanks
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I bought tickets for the home leg for me and my dad online and uploaded to the season ticket. The confirmation email usefully makes no mention that I've chosen the upload option and is just generic, saying things like "if you've chosen to print your ticket, don't forget to print your ticket" but not "if you've chosen to upload your ticket, don't panic, we thought it would be fun not to confirm this for you"
Like another poster on here, the delivery method is blank.
If I then look at my season tickets in the menu under my name in the top right-hand corner, it is saying there are zero games left on my season ticket, whereas I thought it should now be showing 1.
Is this the same for other people who've chosen the upload option?
Thanks
Must admit i went for print at home option, have tickets in my mit.. Villa r so capable of cocking up.
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I bought tickets for the home leg for me and my dad online and uploaded to the season ticket. The confirmation email usefully makes no mention that I've chosen the upload option and is just generic, saying things like "if you've chosen to print your ticket, don't forget to print your ticket" but not "if you've chosen to upload your ticket, don't panic, we thought it would be fun not to confirm this for you"
Like another poster on here, the delivery method is blank.
If I then look at my season tickets in the menu under my name in the top right-hand corner, it is saying there are zero games left on my season ticket, whereas I thought it should now be showing 1.
Is this the same for other people who've chosen the upload option?
Thanks
I'm getting the same. I'm sure it's fine, but being the worrier I am I might give them a call to make sure.
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Being an even bigger worrier than you (probably), I just rang the ticket office and they said it has worked and the zero matches left is for league games. I did tell her that she is probably going to get lots of calls from people like me and this could be avoided if the confirmation email did make mention of the fact that the process had been successful or they updated the number of games on the season card - I'm sure she was very grateful for this comment and they will immediately be calling an emergency staff meeting to discuss my feedback and make the necessary changes.
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I bought tickets for the home leg for me and my dad online and uploaded to the season ticket. The confirmation email usefully makes no mention that I've chosen the upload option and is just generic, saying things like "if you've chosen to print your ticket, don't forget to print your ticket" but not "if you've chosen to upload your ticket, don't panic, we thought it would be fun not to confirm this for you"
Like another poster on here, the delivery method is blank.
If I then look at my season tickets in the menu under my name in the top right-hand corner, it is saying there are zero games left on my season ticket, whereas I thought it should now be showing 1.
Is this the same for other people who've chosen the upload option?
Thanks
Must admit i went for print at home option, have tickets in my mit.. Villa r so capable of cocking up.
I went for the old fashioned way and had a proper ticket delivered.
Like you, I thought we could cock this up quite easily!
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Being an even bigger worrier than you (probably), I just rang the ticket office and they said it has worked and the zero matches left is for league games. I did tell her that she is probably going to get lots of calls from people like me and this could be avoided if the confirmation email did make mention of the fact that the process had been successful or they updated the number of games on the season card - I'm sure she was very grateful for this comment and they will immediately be calling an emergency staff meeting to discuss my feedback and make the necessary changes.
H&V don't do sarcasm, but that was an excellent example of the written format. UTV.
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Being an even bigger worrier than you (probably), I just rang the ticket office and they said it has worked and the zero matches left is for league games. I did tell her that she is probably going to get lots of calls from people like me and this could be avoided if the confirmation email did make mention of the fact that the process had been successful or they updated the number of games on the season card - I'm sure she was very grateful for this comment and they will immediately be calling an emergency staff meeting to discuss my feedback and make the necessary changes.
H&V don't do sarcasm, but that was an excellent example of the written format. UTV.
Actually, it wasn't so much intended as sarcasm as more of a joke about how I think my ideas and actions have more significance than they actually do.
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Being an even bigger worrier than you (probably), I just rang the ticket office and they said it has worked and the zero matches left is for league games. I did tell her that she is probably going to get lots of calls from people like me and this could be avoided if the confirmation email did make mention of the fact that the process had been successful or they updated the number of games on the season card - I'm sure she was very grateful for this comment and they will immediately be calling an emergency staff meeting to discuss my feedback and make the necessary changes.
H&V don't do sarcasm, but that was an excellent example of the written format. UTV.
Actually, it wasn't so much intended as sarcasm as more of a joke about how I think my ideas and actions have more significance than they actually do.
only the true messiah denies his existence. follow the shoe. (plagiarised from the Pythons)
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39,700 sold now, this will sell out tomorrow I'd have thought.
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We got the last three tickets sitting together. Will be in the Trinity for the first time in about 20 years
Getting back to staines on the train is looking problematic though!
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Woke up having had a legitimate nightmare we got beat 3-0 at Villa Park again at the run of play.
It was Steve Bruce's Hull who beat us mind.
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Mine was a dream we drew the first leg 6 6 so equally unbelievable !
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Anyone else having difficulty getting onto the main site?
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Anyone else having difficulty getting onto the main site?
Its seems that its down currently.
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https://twitter.com/AVFCSupport/status/994853887923359744
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136 seats left for Tuesday.
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amazing support
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8 now.
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This is the worst nervous that anyone can feel
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Absolutely shitting myself for tomorrow. Keep thinking the worst and us losing 3-0 and blowing 46 games work. I'll be alright when I've had a few beers tomorrow to calm the nerves.
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Thinking of going to Brum to watch it.Any boozer recommendations?
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can't see us effectively going out tomorrow but it would a tense and horrible feeling on the way home, sat at home, in a boozer or at and around Villa Park if we narrowly lose at Middlesborough
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136 seats left for Tuesday.
Sold out now
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It's not really Play Off fever it seems.
We've sold out 2k and 42k.
Boro have sold out 2k away and have 6k unsold for the home game.
Derby have a few thousand unsold for tonight and 500 odd for Monday.
Fulham have 1500 unsold for tonight and loads for Monday unsold.
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It's not really Play Off fever it seems.
We've sold out 2k and 42k.
Boro have sold out 2k away and have 6k unsold for the home game.
Derby have a few thousand unsold for tonight and 500 odd for Monday.
Fulham have 1500 unsold for tonight and loads for Monday unsold.
I'm amazed that Derby can't shift 2000 for Fulham away. Don't get that at all.
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i uploaded my 3 season tickets to my season ticket card but in confirmation email said nothing about them being uploaded. so contacted ticket office via twitter @AVFCSupport and they got back to me within the hour saying that they had all been successfully uploaded so to put your minds at rest drop them a tweet and they will confirm think it should of stated in email if it was
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It's not really Play Off fever it seems.
We've sold out 2k and 42k.
Boro have sold out 2k away and have 6k unsold for the home game.
Derby have a few thousand unsold for tonight and 500 odd for Monday.
Fulham have 1500 unsold for tonight and loads for Monday unsold.
In fairness, we are massive and they are all poxy.
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The gentleman raises a fine point.
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It's not really Play Off fever it seems.
We've sold out 2k and 42k.
Boro have sold out 2k away and have 6k unsold for the home game.
Derby have a few thousand unsold for tonight and 500 odd for Monday.
Fulham have 1500 unsold for tonight and loads for Monday unsold.
I'm amazed that Derby can't shift 2000 for Fulham away. Don't get that at all.
Perhaps they are waiting to see if they're still in it after tonight....
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i uploaded my 3 season tickets to my season ticket card but in confirmation email said nothing about them being uploaded. so contacted ticket office via twitter @AVFCSupport and they got back to me within the hour saying that they had all been successfully uploaded so to put your minds at rest drop them a tweet and they will confirm think it should of stated in email if it was
I did the same via e-mail tickets@astonvilla.zohosupport.com quick positive response
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I had a dream we lost 3-1 to Derby. So in fairness, we do get to Wembley.
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blimey - I'd rather lose in the semi's than get tupped by the Rams at Wembley
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blimey - I'd rather lose in the semi's than get tupped by the Rams at Wembley
Getting tipped by a ram is not recommended although Dinas might disagree.
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Currently favourites for promotion on betfair.
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Of all 4 teams in it, we just LOOK a class apart.
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Of all 4 teams in it, we just LOOK a class apart.
I have seen nothing to suggest that there is much to separate any of the 4 teams, all have strengths and weaknesses.
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Of all 4 teams in it, we just LOOK a class apart.
I agree.
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Of all 4 teams in it, we just LOOK a class apart.
I have seen nothing to suggest that there is much to separate any of the 4 teams, all have strengths and weaknesses.
Maybe you weren't watching the games then.
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Of all 4 teams in it, we just LOOK a class apart.
I have seen nothing to suggest that there is much to separate any of the 4 teams, all have strengths and weaknesses.
Maybe you weren't watching the games then.
Please tell me how we looked a “class apart” ?
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we didn't and from what I saw Sam made some sharp stops to ensure we ended up on the winning side. Still all to play for in both semi-finals.
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Christ, I'm not sure that 35% possession and hoofing it to nobody on the odd occasion when we did get the ball is exactly what I'd call a class apart. Good result and all, but come on.
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Christ, I'm not sure that 35% possession and hoofing it to nobody on the odd occasion when we did get the ball is exactly what I'd call a class apart. Good result and all, but come on.
You must have been watching the same game as me.
What was Drummond watching?
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Christ, I'm not sure that 35% possession and hoofing it to nobody on the odd occasion when we did get the ball is exactly what I'd call a class apart. Good result and all, but come on.
I’d agree and I think from Bruce’s comments post game it wasn’t what he wanted the team to do.
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Of all 4 teams in it, we just LOOK a class apart.
I agree.
I agree but not sure which way!
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despite all the negatives on here we won.!
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I thought we started really well and I commented in the first half that having seen the game last night, we did look by far the best team out of the 4. We were having one of those games where we looked really organised and we're moving the ball really quickly and smoothly.
The 2nd half was an entirely different matter, but it isn't always about silky football, and we still limited their chances despite their 65% possession.
Towards the end of the game though, I realised the reason I wasn't too worried wasn't because I didn't think Boro would score, it was because we only needed to 'stay in the game' and we were definitely going to at least do that. Tuesday will shred the nerves more if we play like that again.
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thought we were outstanding from start to finish. Steve Bruce is obviously a master at these type of situations.
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Christ, I'm not sure that 35% possession and hoofing it to nobody on the odd occasion when we did get the ball is exactly what I'd call a class apart. Good result and all, but come on.
We tend to do fine against physical teams as we have the players to battle them and head away the long throws.
My worry would be playing a Fulham in the final and giving them 65% possession. Not sure how effective a Jedinak type would be in that game.
Still let's just get there and worry about it then.
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Of all 4 teams in it, we just LOOK a class apart.
I agree.
It was that control we exercised first half and the black wall second half. Just oozed calmness and quality.
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Christ, I'm not sure that 35% possession and hoofing it to nobody on the odd occasion when we did get the ball is exactly what I'd call a class apart. Good result and all, but come on.
We tend to do fine against physical teams as we have the players to battle them and head away the long throws.
My worry would be playing a Fulham in the final and giving them 65% possession. Not sure how effective a Jedinak type would be in that game.
Still let's just get there and worry about it then.
Agreed. If it is Fulham in the final I'd put Bjarni there.
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I think he should play most games, maybe instead of Hourihane.
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I think he should play most games, maybe instead of Hourihane.
I agree, I think Hourihane would be a decent option off the bench but does not do enough to keep starting.
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my biggest concern is that Bruce goes with the same team on Tuesday ( bar Elmo through injury) and that would be a mistake - look what OPR did to us a matter of days after thrashing Wolves.
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my biggest concern is that Bruce goes with the same team on Tuesday ( bar Elmo through injury) and that would be a mistake - look what OPR did to us a matter of days after thrashing Wolves.
This totally I'd look at maybe Onomah Whelan BB starting
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Think it will be different, we had to do a lot of pressing and chasing v Wolves, Boro is more static team where contentration and holding your position is important so can't believe it will have taken as much out of us as Wolves game did.
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Of all 4 teams in it, we just LOOK a class apart.
Sam Matterface, who apparently commentated on the game yesterday for Talksport said pretty much that same thing regarding us being the best of the four teams in the play offs. I don't know who his co commentator was but whoever it was he agreed. They also pointed out the two big disappointments Fulham have had in their last two games.
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Think it will be different, we had to do a lot of pressing and chasing v Wolves, Boro is more static team where contentration and holding your position is important so can't believe it will have taken as much out of us as Wolves game did.
And Boro where playing at the same time
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Talking of play-offs, I went to see Harrogate Town win their promotion-gaining play-off today.
Now in the National League ...
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I agree about the quality thing. Looking at Terry lining up in the tunnel it struck me we’re full of players who are made for these games.
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I've been reading on the efl website recently that half of the total of all incomes in gate receipts for the 4 play off semi finals are shared equally between the 4 teams.
And that the play off winner along with the other 2 promoted teams have to pay a sum of £165,000 or so upon leaving the league via promotion to the big league ( in part to assist parachute payments of the incoming relegated clubs from premier league)
Fascinating
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Of all 4 teams in it, we just LOOK a class apart.
I have seen nothing to suggest that there is much to separate any of the 4 teams, all have strengths and weaknesses.
Maybe you weren't watching the games then.
Please tell me how we looked a “class apart” ?
I wasn't in the least bit concerned. We were in control of that game. Johnstone did what he does, position himself well and make good saves.
The back four were all good, tactically we nullified their main threat fairly easily.
We were calm, organised, efficient and had the confidence to carry out our plan.
Possession stats mean fuck all of the team that has it can't do anything with it.
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Of all 4 teams in it, we just LOOK a class apart.
I have seen nothing to suggest that there is much to separate any of the 4 teams, all have strengths and weaknesses.
Maybe you weren't watching the games then.
Please tell me how we looked a “class apart” ?
I wasn't in the least bit concerned. We were in control of that game. Johnstone did what he does, position himself well and make good saves.
The back four were all good, tactically we nullified their main threat fairly easily.
We were calm, organised, efficient and had the confidence to carry out our plan.
Possession stats mean fuck all of the team that has it can't do anything with it.
Calm. Professional. Business like, all with a touch of quality.
My original point was that, compared to the other 3 teams, we seem have an aura about us.
Of course, it could all go to shit, but I honestly think we have the look of a premier league team about us.
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I notice that Fulham are charging just £19 a ticket with concessions as little as a fiver.
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I notice that Fulham are charging just £19 a ticket with concessions as little as a fiver.
.....and still can't sell out whereas we have.
My ST seat was £20 btw.
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Of all 4 teams in it, we just LOOK a class apart.
I have seen nothing to suggest that there is much to separate any of the 4 teams, all have strengths and weaknesses.
Maybe you weren't watching the games then.
Please tell me how we looked a “class apart” ?
I wasn't in the least bit concerned. We were in control of that game. Johnstone did what he does, position himself well and make good saves.
The back four were all good, tactically we nullified their main threat fairly easily.
We were calm, organised, efficient and had the confidence to carry out our plan.
Possession stats mean fuck all of the team that has it can't do anything with it.
You have not answered the question.
If we are a class apart, why are we in the play offs?
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They said we look a class apart from the 3 other teams in the play-offs. They said nothing about the top 2.
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So I've just read that no team has ever not qualified for the championship playoff final after winning the first leg.
Sleep easy Villans.
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Of all 4 teams in it, we just LOOK a class apart.
I have seen nothing to suggest that there is much to separate any of the 4 teams, all have strengths and weaknesses.
Maybe you weren't watching the games then.
Please tell me how we looked a “class apart” ?
I wasn't in the least bit concerned. We were in control of that game. Johnstone did what he does, position himself well and make good saves.
The back four were all good, tactically we nullified their main threat fairly easily.
We were calm, organised, efficient and had the confidence to carry out our plan.
Possession stats mean fuck all of the team that has it can't do anything with it.
You have not answered the question.
If we are a class apart, why are we in the play offs?
You asked and I told you, sorry it wasn't the answer you wanted. As PWS said, if you understood the first post you'd have got it.
I think the thread title does kind of give it away a bit.
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Derby are set up just nicely for the leg tonight v Fulham as they have players who can counter attack superbly.
An early goal for Derby and a late equaliser for Fulham with alot of guff, huff, puff in between.
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So I've just read that no team has ever not qualified for the championship playoff final after winning the first leg.
Sleep easy Villans.
It's happened a few times. Leicester 2013, Ipswich 2004, Blose, hilariously, 2001, Sheffield United 1998, Wolves 1995 and, if we include second tier playoffs prior to the creation of the Premier League, Swindon 1989 and Bradford 1988.
It is true to say that no team has yet been eliminated having won the first leg away from home, though a couple have lost the second leg and had to rely on winning a penalty shoot-out to scrape through.
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Skillz, that's one of your weaker recent posts but I must say the insight iyou give on the stats side is really interesting.
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Of all 4 teams in it, we just LOOK a class apart.
I have seen nothing to suggest that there is much to separate any of the 4 teams, all have strengths and weaknesses.
Maybe you weren't watching the games then.
Please tell me how we looked a “class apart” ?
I wasn't in the least bit concerned. We were in control of that game. Johnstone did what he does, position himself well and make good saves.
The back four were all good, tactically we nullified their main threat fairly easily.
We were calm, organised, efficient and had the confidence to carry out our plan.
Possession stats mean fuck all of the team that has it can't do anything with it.
You have not answered the question.
If we are a class apart, why are we in the play offs?
You asked and I told you, sorry it wasn't the answer you wanted. As PWS said, if you understood the first post you'd have got it.
I think the thread title does kind of give it away a bit.
Thanks for clearing that up. :o
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So I've just read that no team has ever not qualified for the championship playoff final after winning the first leg.
Sleep easy Villans.
It's happened a few times. Leicester 2013, Ipswich 2004, Blose, hilariously, 2001, Sheffield United 1998, Wolves 1995 and, if we include second tier playoffs prior to the creation of the Premier League, Swindon 1989 and Bradford 1988.
It is true to say that no team has yet been eliminated having won the first leg away from home, though a couple have lost the second leg and had to rely on winning a penalty shoot-out to scrape through.
More importantly, this is Villa, and we treat records like that as a challenge!!!
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Thanks for clearing that up. :o
My pleasure. Hope it's not too windy there today.
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So I've just read that no team has ever not qualified for the championship playoff final after winning the first leg.
Sleep easy Villans.
It's happened a few times. Leicester 2013, Ipswich 2004, Blose, hilariously, 2001, Sheffield United 1998, Wolves 1995 and, if we include second tier playoffs prior to the creation of the Premier League, Swindon 1989 and Bradford 1988.
It is true to say that no team has yet been eliminated having won the first leg away from home, though a couple have lost the second leg and had to rely on winning a penalty shoot-out to scrape through.
I know it's exactly the same thing, but I heard it said simpler as no team had ever qualified for the final after losing the first leg. I thought it seemed to be stretching the laws of football probabilities a bit! If they'd said "after losing the first leg at home", I'd have still raised an eyebrow, but not quite as much.
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Bugger. I have been buying tickets for 8 previous home games for my daughter and I but haven’t assigned them to her. All tickets in my name and now I can’t get two tickets for Boro home and she doesn’t have any history. And presumably same for Wembley >:(
They were pretty good with me once in similar circumstances - is obvious you wouldnt buy 2 for yourself (unless you’re 30 stone and wamted one for each cheek) so you need to convince them they were all for the same person - should be fine if its family - does she have a reference number?
They aren't being so helpful to me. Been to the ticket office this morning and also phoned them but they won't reassign the tickets to my daughter. So, assuming we get to Wembley, we will either site separately, wait until they go on general sale (when presumably only the worse tickets will be available) or not get a ticket at all. Thanks for 45 years of support.
I appreciate its my own fault, as apparently you are warned of this when you book, but why don't they just force you to reassign when you buy the ticket. Makes life easier.
Thanks Villa
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Thanks for clearing that up. :o
My pleasure. Hope it's not too windy there today.
No idea I am in Amsterdam
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Would explain why you missed the important bit about "of the 4 play-off teams" if you're stoned as a biscuit.
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Bugger. I have been buying tickets for 8 previous home games for my daughter and I but haven’t assigned them to her. All tickets in my name and now I can’t get two tickets for Boro home and she doesn’t have any history. And presumably same for Wembley >:(
They were pretty good with me once in similar circumstances - is obvious you wouldnt buy 2 for yourself (unless you’re 30 stone and wamted one for each cheek) so you need to convince them they were all for the same person - should be fine if its family - does she have a reference number?
They aren't being so helpful to me. Been to the ticket office this morning and also phoned them but they won't reassign the tickets to my daughter. So, assuming we get to Wembley, we will either site separately, wait until they go on general sale (when presumably only the worse tickets will be available) or not get a ticket at all. Thanks for 45 years of support.
I appreciate its my own fault, as apparently you are warned of this when you book, but why don't they just force you to reassign when you buy the ticket. Makes life easier.
Thanks Villa
Nor me - they say they have a new system now that won't let them assign tickets after the event, but, they think I might be able to go into my booking history and do it myself. I think I probably won't!
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Would explain why you missed the important bit about "of the 4 play-off teams" if you're stoned as a biscuit.
ChicagoHion
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So far I’ve felt strangely calm during the playoffs, thought I’d be terrified.
Other than the Assombalonga header I never thought they looked like scoring. Particularly after Ayala went off.
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We will be fine tomorrow. No need for nerves. The atmosphere is going to be fucking bouncing and they won't like it one bit. The last time we hit a match at home with this level of anticipation was Olbiyun in the cup. I am hoping it will be more like the Sunderland annihilation though because Villa Park was great that night.
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Thanks for clearing that up. :o
My pleasure. Hope it's not too windy there today.
No idea I am in Amsterdam
You've no idea if it's windy because you're in Amsterdam? Does wind not show itself there?
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We will be fine tomorrow. No need for nerves. The atmosphere is going to be fucking bouncing and they won't like it one bit. The last time we hit a match at home with this level of anticipation was Olbiyun in the cup. I am hoping it will be more like the Sunderland annihilation though because Villa Park was great that night.
I went to the Sunderland game half expecting it to be one of the last PL games I’d see at Villa Park, turned out alright in the end!
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We will be fine tomorrow. No need for nerves. The atmosphere is going to be fucking bouncing and they won't like it one bit. The last time we hit a match at home with this level of anticipation was Olbiyun in the cup. I am hoping it will be more like the Sunderland annihilation though because Villa Park was great that night.
They won't know what's hit them. They don't really get to play in matches that mean this much to a club our size very often, as nobody really gives a toss about them, a bit like Coventry used to be.
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Wolves game was a cracking atmosphere aswell.
Previous Villa squads have shrunk when we've had full houses for big games, this squad relishes the occasions when you look at our results this season.
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Wolves game was a cracking atmosphere aswell.
Previous Villa squads have shrunk when we've had full houses for big games, this squad relishes the occasions when you look at our results this season.
Yes, and yes again, can't fkn wait.
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Everyone knows that Windy Miller was using the flour mill as cover for his class a drug operation. PC McGarry was in on it, taking weekly back handers to fund his illegal dog fighting, gambling and prostitute binges.
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Thanks for clearing that up. :o
My pleasure. Hope it's not too windy there today.
No idea I am in Amsterdam
You've no idea if it's windy because you're in Amsterdam? Does wind not show itself there?
Not in the shame way ash Chicago
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Bugger. I have been buying tickets for 8 previous home games for my daughter and I but haven’t assigned them to her. All tickets in my name and now I can’t get two tickets for Boro home and she doesn’t have any history. And presumably same for Wembley >:(
They were pretty good with me once in similar circumstances - is obvious you wouldnt buy 2 for yourself (unless you’re 30 stone and wamted one for each cheek) so you need to convince them they were all for the same person - should be fine if its family - does she have a reference number?
They aren't being so helpful to me. Been to the ticket office this morning and also phoned them but they won't reassign the tickets to my daughter. So, assuming we get to Wembley, we will either site separately, wait until they go on general sale (when presumably only the worse tickets will be available) or not get a ticket at all. Thanks for 45 years of support.
I appreciate its my own fault, as apparently you are warned of this when you book, but why don't they just force you to reassign when you buy the ticket. Makes life easier.
Thanks Villa
Nor me - they say they have a new system now that won't let them assign tickets after the event, but, they think I might be able to go into my booking history and do it myself. I think I probably won't!
If you hack your way in, let me know!
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I've been totally relaxed about the play offs. However, I woke up this morning feeling very nervous. It hasn't helped that Fulham won last night because they've now reverted back to favourites to win at Wembley, regardless of their opposition.
With just under 11 hours to kick off, I dread to think what I'll be feeling like at 7.45 tonight. I know Bruce has said that these games are there to be enjoyed but I personally rarely do enjoy them (Leeds in the 96 final being the exception). It only becomes enjoyable at full time if the result has gone your way.
For me, this is our most important game since Swindon away in 1988. I'd go as far as to say that should we reach Wembley, then that game will be our most important game since Rotterdam.
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It occurred to me last night as I watched the Derby fans, that losing at any point in the play offs is like somehow being relegated when you were in the top 6.
I am trying to remember that I don't feel that bothered whether we go up, but that feeling is escaping me at the moment.
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I've been totally relaxed about the play offs. However, I woke up this morning feeling very nervous. It hasn't helped that Fulham won last night because they've now reverted back to favourites to win at Wembley, regardless of their opposition.
With just under 11 hours to kick off, I dread to think what I'll be feeling like at 7.45 tonight. I know Bruce has said that these games are there to be enjoyed but I personally rarely do enjoy them (Leeds in the 96 final being the exception). It only becomes enjoyable at full time if the result has gone your way.
For me, this is our most important game since Swindon away in 1988. I'd go as far as to say that should we reach Wembley, then that game will be our most important game since Rotterdam.
I do have that sick feeling in the pit of my stomach. Murderous butterflies.
I'm dreading hearing the team sheet because I think we're all fairly certain Bruce will stick with the same lineup, with Bree for Elmo being the only (forced) change, and I know my hopes will start to sink at that point. My head says surely we've got enough to see this over the line, but my gut says we're Aston Villa, it'd be just like us to come out slow and give away an early goal.
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Our experince will lead us to victory, they dont got players like Terry and that will be the diffrence.
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For me, this is our most important game since Swindon away in 1988. I'd go as far as to say that should we reach Wembley, then that game will be our most important game since Rotterdam.
Behave! Since then we've been in two FA Cup finals and two League Cup finals, all of which have been more important than tonight and any game we might have a week on Saturday, added together!
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In the unlikely event of us losing tonight I sincerely hope no adults are caught on camera crying because their football team have lost.
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For me, this is our most important game since Swindon away in 1988. I'd go as far as to say that should we reach Wembley, then that game will be our most important game since Rotterdam.
Behave! Since then we've been in two FA Cup finals and two League Cup finals, all of which have been more important than tonight and any game we might have a week on Saturday, added together!
You think.
I appreciate the cup finals were Big. But this is about the financial stability of our club, as if we don't go up this season. those FA cup finals will be a long time a coming.
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For me, this is our most important game since Swindon away in 1988. I'd go as far as to say that should we reach Wembley, then that game will be our most important game since Rotterdam.
Behave! Since then we've been in two FA Cup finals and two League Cup finals, all of which have been more important than tonight and any game we might have a week on Saturday, added together!
You think.
I appreciate the cup finals were Big. But this is about the financial stability of our club, as if we don't go up this season. those FA cup finals will be a long time a coming.
Those FA Cups are already a long time coming.
The FA Cup's the only trophy of note we've not won in my lifetime. Given a choice of winning the FA Cup and spending a decade bobbing around the nether regions of the league vs not winning the FA Cup but having the "pleasure" of a decade of avoiding relegation in the Prem it's not even a decision in my eyes.
Football's about winning stuff - not being chuffed we're one of several teams who aren't rich enough to win the league but have done just enough to avoid getting relegated.
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Putting it another way, I doubt you'd find many Wigan fans who'd swap winning the FA Cup for spending the last 5 years getting stuffed most weeks in the Prem.
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It occurred to me last night as I watched the Derby fans, that losing at any point in the play offs is like somehow being relegated when you were in the top 6.
I am trying to remember that I don't feel that bothered whether we go up, but that feeling is escaping me at the moment.
Yes it's the difference between PL and staying in the Championship and that's continuation of relegation.
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For me, this is our most important game since Swindon away in 1988. I'd go as far as to say that should we reach Wembley, then that game will be our most important game since Rotterdam.
Behave! Since then we've been in two FA Cup finals and two League Cup finals, all of which have been more important than tonight and any game we might have a week on Saturday, added together!
And as I said, FOR ME, tonight is more important than any of those 4 finals, let alone a play off final. So YOU behave.
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Putting it another way, I doubt you'd find many Wigan fans who'd swap winning the FA Cup for spending the last 5 years getting stuffed most weeks in the Prem.
Yes but we're Aston Villa, not Wigan. They might well swap a day in the sun for a lifetime of obscurity but we won't. Just because it is YOUR personal ambition to see Villa lift an FA Cup in your lifetime, doesn't make it everyone elses. Personally, I couldn't give a flying one about a devalued FA Cup. Yes it would be nice to win but not at the expense of a PL spot.
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Yes Brassneck finishing 17 to 15th in the the PL every season would be much more glorious than winning the most famous trophy in world domestic football.
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It occurred to me last night as I watched the Derby fans, that losing at any point in the play offs is like somehow being relegated when you were in the top 6.
I am trying to remember that I don't feel that bothered whether we go up, but that feeling is escaping me at the moment.
Yes it's the difference between PL and staying in the Championship and that's continuation of relegation.
Are you going tonight, mate? If so, have an absolutely belting time. I'll be cheering us on like a madman from 3:45am, before a full day of lecturing tomorrow. If we win, the students are going to have to endure Villa themed references to everything throughout each class.
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Its the ability to win silver ware, Wolves are looking at paying £35 million for a goalkeeper. little Aston villa in the second division 5 years hence will be looking at a reserve keeper from crystal palace, so the likelihood of trips to wembley seem .... Distant.
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Putting it another way, I doubt you'd find many Wigan fans who'd swap winning the FA Cup for spending the last 5 years getting stuffed most weeks in the Prem.
Yes but we're Aston Villa, not Wigan. They might well swap a day in the sun for a lifetime of obscurity but we won't. Just because it is YOUR personal ambition to see Villa lift an FA Cup in your lifetime, doesn't make it everyone elses. Personally, I couldn't give a flying one about a devalued FA Cup. Yes it would be nice to win but not at the expense of a PL spot.
I'm with Adam. To the point that I'd rather see us win the FA Cup than anything else.
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Yes Brassneck finishing 17 to 15th in the the PL every season would be much more glorious than winning the most famous trophy in world domestic football.
Yes Olaftab. I really said I aspired to finish 17th to 15th didn't I?
And as someone else mentioned, in order to win it, you need to be in the PL in any case - Just as Wigan were when they won it. When the FA Cup was in all of it's glory and splendor, it may well have been possible for a romantic giant killing by a lower tier side but not now. We have to move with the times and stop this selfish "I must see an FA Cup win in my lifetime" nonsense.
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Yes Brassneck finishing 17 to 15th in the the PL every season would be much more glorious than winning the most famous trophy in world domestic football.
Yes Olaftab. I really said I aspired to finish 17th to 15th didn't I?
And as someone else mentioned, in order to win it, you need to be in the PL in any case - Just as Wigan were when they won it. When the FA Cup was in all of it's glory and splendor, it may well have been possible for a romantic giant killing by a lower tier side but not now. We have to move with the times and stop this selfish "I must see an FA Cup win in my lifetime" nonsense.
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Brassneck I am with you that to win the FA cup we need to in the PL and more competitive but just being in the PL and surviving playing weakened teams in the Cups is not for me.
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I would rather be promoted than anything else. We wont win the FA Cup by being in the 2nd division and the summit of our ambitions is somewhat higher than grubbing around the lower reaches of the top flight.
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Are you going tonight, mate? I so, have an absolutely belting time. I'll be cheering us on like a madman from 3:45am, before a full day of lecturing tomorrow. If we win, the students are going to have to endure Villa themed references to everything throughout each class.
Going tonight? Been ironing my 28 shirt all week. Hoping to see Paul etc. as well. You are super fan Nik as it's not easy following evening games out there.
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I would rather be promoted than anything else. We wont win the FA Cup by being in the 2nd division and the summit of our ambitions is somewhat higher than grubbing around the lower reaches of the top flight.
Yes totally agreed on that.
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Are you going tonight, mate? I so, have an absolutely belting time. I'll be cheering us on like a madman from 3:45am, before a full day of lecturing tomorrow. If we win, the students are going to have to endure Villa themed references to everything throughout each class.
Going tonight? Been ironing my 28 shirt all week. Hoping to see Paul etc. as well. You are super fan Nik as it's not easy following evening games out there.
Little bird tells me that Paul will be sober for this ( which is more than we both were for the first leg). You probably won't recognise him.
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Brassneck I am with you that to win the FA cup we need to in the PL and more competitive but just being in the PL and surviving playing weakened teams in the Cups is not for me.
The championship has been a breath of fresh air to me. However, for the good of the club, we need to be in the top flight. Failure this season will see us weakened in at least 4 positions, probably more. The longer we stay in this league, the more isolated we will become. One FA cup win in the naughties will not compensate for a sustained period in the Championship. The vast majority of our support were too young to experience the last championship win so they are not remotely interested in the "full house" that many of our old fans crave.
From where we are, we have to accept that an initial target would be to survive in the PL. It does not mean we should aim for this until eternity. The aim always has to be to play at the highest level. We are paying for the Lerner era but that doesn't mean we will do so for ever more. The sooner we get back to the prem, the sooner we can try to kick on. Each will be a challenge in itself.
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Are you going tonight, mate? I so, have an absolutely belting time. I'll be cheering us on like a madman from 3:45am, before a full day of lecturing tomorrow. If we win, the students are going to have to endure Villa themed references to everything throughout each class.
Going tonight? Been ironing my 28 shirt all week. Hoping to see Paul etc. as well. You are super fan Nik as it's not easy following evening games out there.
Haha. Enjoy, pal. I'm extremely envious, and would love to be there! Send my best to Paul, also.
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We're not sat at a crossroads with the devil offering us a pact where we get the choice of the FA Cup or promotion so let's just win the play-offs and take it from there.
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Are you going tonight, mate? I so, have an absolutely belting time. I'll be cheering us on like a madman from 3:45am, before a full day of lecturing tomorrow. If we win, the students are going to have to endure Villa themed references to everything throughout each class.
Going tonight? Been ironing my 28 shirt all week. Hoping to see Paul etc. as well. You are super fan Nik as it's not easy following evening games out there.
Little bird tells me that Paul will be sober for this ( which is more than we both were for the first leg). You probably won't recognise him.
Haha. When I first met Paul in Shanghai back in 2012, we had a good drink. At the Sheff United game just before Christmas, my wife, attending her first Villa game, insisted on buying a round. She was amazed that he only had a coke. The Japanese are brought up to believe that all English football fans are absolute beer monsters.
I explained that he was driving, but still, it was completely lost on her. It would have been good for her to meet him up at the Riverside by the sounds of things.
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If we do manage to get through tonight Wembley trip not to he cheapest - the cost of failure
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If we do win tonight do you think they'll be a pitch invasion like Fulham did last night?
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If we do win tonight do you think they'll be a pitch invasion like Fulham did last night?
Hopefully not; 1) We’ve been to Wembley lots and it’s not exactly amazing. 2) We’d still have another match to win before getting promoted.
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Part of the reason I was asking, is it a bit small time for us and also, we've won nothing yet.
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I think most fans of football clubs are the same, we just want to win things.
An Everton supporting friend of mine just wants his team to win a trophy, their last one was 1995 FA Cup. He knows they won't win the PL anytime soon.
In the last 5 years Wigan have won the FA Cup and are current champions of the 3rd Division.
I would argue Wigan fans are happier than Everton fans right now, but Everton are probably classed as being more successful.
I just want us to win every game, starting tonight.
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Yes Brassneck finishing 17 to 15th in the the PL every season would be much more glorious than winning the most famous trophy in world domestic football.
Yes Olaftab. I really said I aspired to finish 17th to 15th didn't I?
And as someone else mentioned, in order to win it, you need to be in the PL in any case - Just as Wigan were when they won it. When the FA Cup was in all of it's glory and splendor, it may well have been possible for a romantic giant killing by a lower tier side but not now. We have to move with the times and stop this selfish "I must see an FA Cup win in my lifetime" nonsense.
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You can be any team in any division in any tier as long as you enter. The higher the division the better quality you're likely to be and therefore more likely.
As for me being selfish, get a grip. Why is it selfish to want to win a bloody trophy? What makes your wishes more important than mine? It'a the only trophy I've not seen us win. When I was younger we'd won it more times than anyone else, now there are bloody managers who push us close.
I wish people like you would stop dismissing it. Next you'll think 'fuck the league, I want to be in the European Super League' or other such nonsense.
I like the history and prestige of our game, I'd like to think we might win a trophy rather than aiming to just play in something.
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Yes Brassneck finishing 17 to 15th in the the PL every season would be much more glorious than winning the most famous trophy in world domestic football.
Yes Olaftab. I really said I aspired to finish 17th to 15th didn't I?
And as someone else mentioned, in order to win it, you need to be in the PL in any case - Just as Wigan were when they won it. When the FA Cup was in all of it's glory and splendor, it may well have been possible for a romantic giant killing by a lower tier side but not now. We have to move with the times and stop this selfish "I must see an FA Cup win in my lifetime" nonsense.
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You can be any team in any division in any tier as long as you enter. The higher the division the better quality you're likely to be and therefore more likely.
As for me being selfish, get a grip. Why is it selfish to want to win a bloody trophy? What makes your wishes more important than mine? It'a the only trophy I've not seen us win. When I was younger we'd won it more times than anyone else, now there are bloody managers who push us close.
I wish people like you would stop dismissing it. Next you'll think 'fuck the league, I want to be in the European Super League' or other such nonsense.
I like the history and prestige of our game, I'd like to think we might win a trophy rather than aiming to just play in something.
It is selfish because the majority of our support could not give a toss about the older generation and their obsession with seeing Villa win every trophy.
If you want to win a trophy then great - don't we all?
However, when you put your silly obsession ahead of the good of the club by stating winning the cup is better (for you) than playing in the PL then I consider it to be selfish.
I didn't dismiss the FA Cup. Others with more clout than I have did that over the past 20 years or so.
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However, when you put your silly obsession ahead of the good of the club by stating winning the cup is better (for you) than playing in the PL then I consider it to be selfish.
Damn those football fans and their silly obsessions.
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However, when you put your silly obsession ahead of the good of the club by stating winning the cup is better (for you) than playing in the PL then I consider it to be selfish.
Damn those football fans and their silly obsessions.
Correctamundo.
Nothing wrong with obsessions - It's just the silly ones that should be damned.
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However, when you put your silly obsession ahead of the good of the club by stating winning the cup is better (for you) than playing in the PL then I consider it to be selfish.
Damn those football fans and their silly obsessions.
Correctamundo.
Nothing wrong with obsessions - It's just the silly ones that should be damned.
Silly ones being the ones you don't agree with?
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However, when you put your silly obsession ahead of the good of the club by stating winning the cup is better (for you) than playing in the PL then I consider it to be selfish.
Damn those football fans and their silly obsessions.
Correctamundo.
Nothing wrong with obsessions - It's just the silly ones that should be damned.
Silly ones being the ones you don't agree with?
No - That would make yours silliest of all Dave.
Football has changed - Get over it. We no longer squash fans onto already overcrowded terraces, we no longer have 11 players and 1 sub, we no longer have football boots that look like they'd snap a mans leg in half and we no longer have an FA Cup final that means as much as winning the league did. It is silly to try to hold onto these things to the detriment of how modern football is and deep down you know it.
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However, when you put your silly obsession ahead of the good of the club by stating winning the cup is better (for you) than playing in the PL then I consider it to be selfish.
Damn those football fans and their silly obsessions.
Correctamundo.
Nothing wrong with obsessions - It's just the silly ones that should be damned.
Brassneck. We can’t have it both ways. I know you’re not bothered are you? Even so, I’m not going to argue.
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I'd take winning the FA Cup over winning the Football League and Murdoch's offshoot. I am clearly silly to the point of certifiable.
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It is selfish because the majority of our support could not give a toss about the older generation and their obsession with seeing Villa win every trophy.
If you want to win a trophy then great - don't we all?
However, when you put your silly obsession ahead of the good of the club by stating winning the cup is better (for you) than playing in the PL then I consider it to be selfish.
I didn't dismiss the FA Cup. Others with more clout than I have did that over the past 20 years or so.
The majority? You speak for 51% or more of our fans do you?! How on earth can you do that? What are the 'older generation' that you don't give a toss about? You're rather an objectionable shit aren't you?
As for winning a trophy, it seems you don't really care, you just want to be playing in the big league with Bournemouth, Southampton, Palace, West Ham, Watford, Brighton et al. Glory, glory days.
Have you ever seen us win anything? Do you know what it feels like? Or are you just happy to make up the numbers because it's trendy?
Should we even enter the Cups any more? You say you aren't dismissing it, yet you don't seem bothered about winning it. You say others have dismissed it, why don't you be part of the group that do value it, stand up rather than being a dull, meek sheep....
As for putting the future of the club at risk by winning a cup, it's laughable isn't it that we've come to the point where winning isn't the goal, getting more money is. I couldn't give a shit how much money we've got if it doesn't achieve anything.
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I'd take winning the FA Cup over winning the Football League and Murdoch's offshoot. I am clearly silly to the point of certifiable.
Selfish Kevin - not silly.
keep up.
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Football has changed - Get over it. We no longer squash fans onto already overcrowded terraces, we no longer have 11 players and 1 sub, we no longer have football boots that look like they'd snap a mans leg in half and we no longer have an FA Cup final that means as much as winning the league did. It is silly to try to hold onto these things to the detriment of how modern football is and deep down you know it.
Please don't try to tell me what I'm thinking.
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Football has changed - Get over it. We no longer squash fans onto already overcrowded terraces, we no longer have 11 players and 1 sub, we no longer have football boots that look like they'd snap a mans leg in half and we no longer have an FA Cup final that means as much as winning the league did. It is silly to try to hold onto these things to the detriment of how modern football is and deep down you know it.
Please don't try to tell me what I'm thinking.
Do you mean like telling me you knew what I was thinking regarding "silly obsessions"?
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Football has changed - Get over it. We no longer squash fans onto already overcrowded terraces, we no longer have 11 players and 1 sub, we no longer have football boots that look like they'd snap a mans leg in half and we no longer have an FA Cup final that means as much as winning the league did. It is silly to try to hold onto these things to the detriment of how modern football is and deep down you know it.
Please don't try to tell me what I'm thinking.
Do you mean like telling me you knew what I was thinking regarding "silly obsessions"?
Which I didn't say at all, so stop trying to argue with all & sundry.
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Football has changed, we don't win The Cup any more.
But give me this over the so called £100million match any time !
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It is selfish because the majority of our support could not give a toss about the older generation and their obsession with seeing Villa win every trophy.
If you want to win a trophy then great - don't we all?
However, when you put your silly obsession ahead of the good of the club by stating winning the cup is better (for you) than playing in the PL then I consider it to be selfish.
I didn't dismiss the FA Cup. Others with more clout than I have did that over the past 20 years or so.
The majority? You speak for 51% or more of our fans do you?! How on earth can you do that? What are the 'older generation' that you don't give a toss about? You're rather an objectionable shit aren't you?
As for winning a trophy, it seems you don't really care, you just want to be playing in the big league with Bournemouth, Southampton, Palace, West Ham, Watford, Brighton et al. Glory, glory days.
Have you ever seen us win anything? Do you know what it feels like? Or are you just happy to make up the numbers because it's trendy?
Should we even enter the Cups any more? You say you aren't dismissing it, yet you don't seem bothered about winning it. You say others have dismissed it, why don't you be part of the group that do value it, stand up rather than being a dull, meek sheep....
As for putting the future of the club at risk by winning a cup, it's laughable isn't it that we've come to the point where winning isn't the goal, getting more money is. I couldn't give a shit how much money we've got if it doesn't achieve anything.
I've seen us win everything since 1972 & was even at Wembley in 1971 and I never once said I don't give a toss about the older generation.
Yes, I believe I speak for the VAST majority who care more about the club's future than they do about people getting to see Villa win all of the cups & trophies available (bar the UEFA cup of course, which doesn't seem to count).
I think you might find that money does achieve something - It always has.
I'm not sure why you think I am ready to accept scrapping away with Bournemouth? I'd wager you've become accustomed to the final Lerner years and cannot see beyond that. I personally want to see us challenging again - Like we did under MON, under Gregory, under Little, under Atkinson and under GT. It doesn't have to be just about existing you know?
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"Correctamundo" and "Get over it", this needs sending to VAR if the mods missed it..
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"Correctamundo" and "Get over it", this needs sending to VAR if the mods missed it..
What about "objectionable little shit aren't you"?
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"Correctamundo" and "Get over it", this needs sending to VAR if the mods missed it..
What about "objectionable little shit aren't you"?
Gosh, that was a bit uncalled for. Less of the "little", I'm 6 foot 4.
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The worst thing about this whole argument is that it's already been answered, we should want to go up and do well in the cups and former gives us a better chance at the latter so why do some people still want to make this a choice. This is a lot like the argument over the style of football where some people are determined to make a choice between playing attractive, effective football and winning games, as if the 2 things aren't linked.
I want us to go up because I want us to be the best we can be, and that won't happen in the championship, we might win more games but I, personally, can't get all that excited about beating teams like Barnsley and Burton Albion, I want us competing with Tottenham, Liverpool, etc like we were on the cusp of 8-9 years ago. That means playing in Europe, it means getting to cup finals, and winning them, and it means being comfortably top half of the premier league (as a minimum), we shouldn't be picking and choosing between those.
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"Correctamundo" and "Get over it", this needs sending to VAR if the mods missed it..
What about "objectionable little shit aren't you"?
You're right. I'm sorry for suggesting you're a little shit.
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I've seen us win everything since 1972 & was even at Wembley in 1971 and I never once said I don't give a toss about the older generation.
Yes, I believe I speak for the VAST majority who care more about the club's future than they do about people getting to see Villa win all of the cups & trophies available (bar the UEFA cup of course, which doesn't seem to count).
I think you might find that money does achieve something - It always has.
I'm not sure why you think I am ready to accept scrapping away with Bournemouth? I'd wager you've become accustomed to the final Lerner years and cannot see beyond that. I personally want to see us challenging again - Like we did under MON, under Gregory, under Little, under Atkinson and under GT. It doesn't have to be just about existing you know?
How odd that the FA Cup is something you don't care about.
You'd lose your money with bets like that, silly man.
I'd swap the MON and Gregory years for the FA Cup; Little and Atkinson won something. Taylor gave us a lot, he rebuilt what had gone to wrack and ruin. I'm hoping Steve Bruce does the same. But I'd still rather have won a cup.
Sky have done a job on you, and if you are in the VAST majority then perhaps the beautiful game is dying.
You said you're bothered about being promoted to the big league, and you'd take that over winning the FA Cup.
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I think this is one of those occasions Brassneck where you should reflect on the fact that you're arguing with pretty much everyone whilst simultaneously claiming to be representing the views of the majority.
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Fulham have been allocated just over 38k for the final and have been allocated the east side of the ground. Ever since I went in their neutral section vs Villa they email me all the time peddling their tickets.
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Fulham have been allocated just over 38k for the final and have been allocated the east side of the ground. Ever since I went in their neutral section vs Villa they email me all the time peddling their tickets.
I took my son to the opening match of the season when we were down in London and get similar.
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I think this is one of those occasions Brassneck where you should reflect on the fact that you're arguing with pretty much everyone whilst simultaneously claiming to be representing the views of the majority.
It's the same old people every time - I'd hardly call them the majority. What makes you think that the majority of people give a damn whether Drummond and his mates can enjoy a "full house" at the expense of the future of the club? Nobody cares about these people and their obsessions.
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Fulham have been allocated 38,000 for the final.
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I'd like to see us win the FA cup in my lifetime. Having a pop at people wanting that is just bizarre.
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I think this is one of those occasions Brassneck where you should reflect on the fact that you're arguing with pretty much everyone whilst simultaneously claiming to be representing the views of the majority.
It's the same old people every time - I'd hardly call them the majority. What makes you think that the majority of people give a damn whether Drummond and his mates can enjoy a "full house" at the expense of the future of the club? Nobody cares about these people and their obsessions.
You obviously do.
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If it was a binary choice at the start of the season between promotion or winning the FA Cup then i'd take the cup, every time. And it would be for selfish reasons, as shown with what happened to Jlloyd, you never know what's going to happen in life and winning the cup would make me far happier and give me a lot more enjoyment than winning promotion. That said, for Villa the club, promotion is far more important.
However it wasn't a binary choice then and it isn't now so getting worked up over it is a tad bizarre.
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Fulham were expecting about 38000 ti kets and were dis ussing that ST holders would be able to get 4 each!
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It appears we won’t be favourites for the final which is no bad thing
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Rightly so, Fulham have been streets better than us. We need to study all the videos of how Derby and Blues did them.
Also hope Sessegnon is in the England squad!
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Rightly so, Fulham have been streets better than us. We need to study all the videos of how Derby and Blues did them.
Also hope Sessegnon is in the England squad!
Get to fk, we'll hammer 'em.
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Fulham were expecting about 38000 ti kets and were dis ussing that ST holders would be able to get 4 each!
There Season Ticket Holders, Members and anyone with a booking history can buy 5 each !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and the club are not selling them Ticketmaster are and are charging the fans an extra £4,80 for fees,etc !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I think this is one of those occasions Brassneck where you should reflect on the fact that you're arguing with pretty much everyone whilst simultaneously claiming to be representing the views of the majority.
It's the same old people every time - I'd hardly call them the majority. What makes you think that the majority of people give a damn whether Drummond and his mates can enjoy a "full house" at the expense of the future of the club? Nobody cares about these people and their obsessions.
You clearly do because you won't stop your fucking noise about some people (old ones obviously) preferring winning things to making up the numbers in the Premier League. I would recommend winding your (brass) neck in a bit.
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I can buy tickets in the Fulham end......not that I would want to but if I was desperate for a match ticket then that would be an option.
Going in that neutral section at Fulham was not a bad idea!
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The worst thing about this whole argument is that it's already been answered, we should want to go up and do well in the cups and former gives us a better chance at the latter so why do some people still want to make this a choice. This is a lot like the argument over the style of football where some people are determined to make a choice between playing attractive, effective football and winning games, as if the 2 things aren't linked.
I want us to go up because I want us to be the best we can be, and that won't happen in the championship, we might win more games but I, personally, can't get all that excited about beating teams like Barnsley and Burton Albion, I want us competing with Tottenham, Liverpool, etc like we were on the cusp of 8-9 years ago. That means playing in Europe, it means getting to cup finals, and winning them, and it means being comfortably top half of the premier league (as a minimum), we shouldn't be picking and choosing between those.
Correctamundo......
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I can buy tickets in the Fulham end......not that I would want to but if I was desperate for a match ticket then that would be an option.
Going in that neutral section at Fulham was not a bad idea!
I guess I'm exactly the same, bought in the neutral section right next to the away block many times, though regret the decision to not risk waiting to the end of the away window, as my booking history is worse as a result.
We had 38k at home tonight, so that's promising though if we do get 38k.
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Rightly so, Fulham have been streets better than us. We need to study all the videos of how Derby and Blues did them.
Also hope Sessegnon is in the England squad!
He would still be allowed to play just like we could play Bjarni.
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I think this is one of those occasions Brassneck where you should reflect on the fact that you're arguing with pretty much everyone whilst simultaneously claiming to be representing the views of the majority.
It's the same old people every time - I'd hardly call them the majority. What makes you think that the majority of people give a damn whether Drummond and his mates can enjoy a "full house" at the expense of the future of the club? Nobody cares about these people and their obsessions.
You're rather unpleasant as well as obnoxious aren't you?
You're claiming to represent the 'vast majority' of fans. You've talked about older generation fans and their silly obsessions, given your age are you going through a mid-life crisis?
It's simple really. You clearly care about me and 'my friends' as you keep going on about them in such a disparaging way. I'm interested to know what success actually looks like for you as you've not said, other than getting promotion.
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Villa are going to have to be at the top of their game if we want to beat Fulham.
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Villa are going to have to be at the top of their game if we want to beat Fulham.
I think you're right, and play slightly differently than we did against Boro.
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Wading into the whole Premier League vs FA Cup argument, we also need to be pragmatic about the ability to continue to maintain our fan base when even the shops in our own city centre are full of Manchester, Liverpool and London teams gear. I remember a mate of mine who took his lad to every Carlisle game, bought him all the gear, the kid knew all the players etc then one day, he came back from school and said, Dad, I support Man City now.
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We'll need to be much better to beat Fulham, but we've got the players to do it. Need somebody to put the shackles on Sessegnon, and for somebody like Jack to drive the team forward. If we try to keep it tight and nick a one-nil, we'll lose.
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well we beast them comfortably at home and they beat us away so we both have a chance!
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We'll need to be much better to beat Fulham, but we've got the players to do it. Need somebody to put the shackles on Sessegnon, and for somebody like Jack to drive the team forward. If we try to keep it tight and nick a one-nil, we'll lose.
I understand what you are saying but I think the term "much better" is slightly misleading.
Our players were fantastic last night and worked their socks off for the entire 90 minutes. They all deserve tremendous credit for the job they did over the 2 legs. We couldn't have asked for any more off them. We were not obliged to get men in the box and allow Boro the option of counter attacking at pace, we closed down their space and denied them the opportunity to run at us.
We need to be different against Fulham rather than better. I don't think we could have been any better than we were last night.
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We'll need to be much better to beat Fulham, but we've got the players to do it. Need somebody to put the shackles on Sessegnon, and for somebody like Jack to drive the team forward. If we try to keep it tight and nick a one-nil, we'll lose.
I understand what you are saying but I think the term "much better" is slightly misleading.
Our players were fantastic last night and worked their socks off for the entire 90 minutes. They all deserve tremendous credit for the job they did over the 2 legs. We couldn't have asked for any more off them. We were not obliged to get men in the box and allow Boro the option of counter attacking at pace, we closed down their space and denied them the opportunity to run at us.
We need to be different against Fulham rather than better. I don't think we could have been any better than we were last night.
They certainly worked hard, and did enough, but had Twatface's free kick gone in, things could have been different. You also need to factor in that Fulham are a much better footballing side than Pulisboro, so I do think our attacking play will need to be a lot better than it has been over the last two games.
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We'll need to be much better to beat Fulham, but we've got the players to do it. Need somebody to put the shackles on Sessegnon, and for somebody like Jack to drive the team forward. If we try to keep it tight and nick a one-nil, we'll lose.
I understand what you are saying but I think the term "much better" is slightly misleading.
Our players were fantastic last night and worked their socks off for the entire 90 minutes. They all deserve tremendous credit for the job they did over the 2 legs. We couldn't have asked for any more off them. We were not obliged to get men in the box and allow Boro the option of counter attacking at pace, we closed down their space and denied them the opportunity to run at us.
We need to be different against Fulham rather than better. I don't think we could have been any better than we were last night.
They certainly worked hard, and did enough, but had Twatface's free kick gone in, things could have been different. You also need to factor in that Fulham are a much better footballing side than Pulisboro, so I do think our attacking play will need to be a lot better than it has been over the last two games.
The problem is, we didn't need to attack any differently to how we did last night, we had the lead. It's not attacking "better", it's attacking "differently". We attacked superbly last night given the scenario.
Don't worry about attacking Fulham - Their defence is no better than Boro's.
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The worst thing about this whole argument is that it's already been answered, we should want to go up and do well in the cups and former gives us a better chance at the latter so why do some people still want to make this a choice. This is a lot like the argument over the style of football where some people are determined to make a choice between playing attractive, effective football and winning games, as if the 2 things aren't linked.
I want us to go up because I want us to be the best we can be, and that won't happen in the championship, we might win more games but I, personally, can't get all that excited about beating teams like Barnsley and Burton Albion, I want us competing with Tottenham, Liverpool, etc like we were on the cusp of 8-9 years ago. That means playing in Europe, it means getting to cup finals, and winning them, and it means being comfortably top half of the premier league (as a minimum), we shouldn't be picking and choosing between those.
Correctamundo......
Get over it......
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The problem is, we didn't need to attack any differently to how we did last night, we had the lead. It's not attacking "better", it's attacking "differently". We attacked superbly last night given the scenario.
I think scoring a goal would put us in with a better chance of winning personally. But I think you're just getting bogged down in semantics anyway, so will leave it there.
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The problem is, we didn't need to attack any differently to how we did last night, we had the lead. It's not attacking "better", it's attacking "differently". We attacked superbly last night given the scenario.
I think scoring a goal would put us in with a better chance of winning personally. But I think you're just getting bogged down in semantics anyway, so will leave it there.
I'm not getting bogged down in anything - I simply posted an opinion, just lie you did. Of course it would have been nice to score a goal or two but it rarely happens in games as tight as this one. The players have been fantastic over 2 legs and got the job done that they set out to do.
Remember Fulham only scraped through by one goal - I don't see any of their fans panicking over it.
In 1996, we played Arsenal the the league cup semi final. The 2nd leg at VP was almost identical to last night's game and that was even more of a tightrope because a goal for Arsenal would have seen us knocked out.
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We'll need to be much better to beat Fulham, but we've got the players to do it. Need somebody to put the shackles on Sessegnon, and for somebody like Jack to drive the team forward. If we try to keep it tight and nick a one-nil, we'll lose.
I understand what you are saying but I think the term "much better" is slightly misleading.
Our players were fantastic last night and worked their socks off for the entire 90 minutes. They all deserve tremendous credit for the job they did over the 2 legs. We couldn't have asked for any more off them. We were not obliged to get men in the box and allow Boro the option of counter attacking at pace, we closed down their space and denied them the opportunity to run at us.
We need to be different against Fulham rather than better. I don't think we could have been any better than we were last night.
They certainly worked hard, and did enough, but had Twatface's free kick gone in, things could have been different. You also need to factor in that Fulham are a much better footballing side than Pulisboro, so I do think our attacking play will need to be a lot better than it has been over the last two games.
Yeah and had all the shots they had on target over the two legs gone in we'd still only have drawn.
It's all ifs and buts. Sessegnon could have Hutton all over him.
We were by far the better of the two sides and did what was required. We beat Wolves 4-0 and you would normally say they are a better footballing side too. We can do it.
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i thought it was 4-1
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i thought it was 4-1
Maybe he was talking about the 2004 match under O'Leary.
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i thought it was 4-1
Maybe he was talking about the 2004 match under O'Leary.
Arse, erm, their goal didn't count. Or I have fat fingers. Or I got it wrong.
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i thought it was 4-1
Maybe he was talking about the 2004 match under O'Leary.
Arse, erm, their goal didn't count. Or I have fat fingers. Or I got it wrong.
Their goal was a scrappy bit of rubbish, to be fair.
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At VP we can impose our game on most teams.
Away it's a little different. See the limp defeats at likes of Fulham and Wolves and various other mediocre away performances this season.
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We'll need to be much better to beat Fulham, but we've got the players to do it. Need somebody to put the shackles on Sessegnon, and for somebody like Jack to drive the team forward. If we try to keep it tight and nick a one-nil, we'll lose.
I understand what you are saying but I think the term "much better" is slightly misleading.
Our players were fantastic last night and worked their socks off for the entire 90 minutes. They all deserve tremendous credit for the job they did over the 2 legs. We couldn't have asked for any more off them. We were not obliged to get men in the box and allow Boro the option of counter attacking at pace, we closed down their space and denied them the opportunity to run at us.
We need to be different against Fulham rather than better. I don't think we could have been any better than we were last night.
They certainly worked hard, and did enough, but had Twatface's free kick gone in, things could have been different. You also need to factor in that Fulham are a much better footballing side than Pulisboro, so I do think our attacking play will need to be a lot better than it has been over the last two games.
Yeah and had all the shots they had on target over the two legs gone in we'd still only have drawn.
It's all ifs and buts. Sessegnon could have Hutton all over him.
We were by far the better of the two sides and did what was required. We beat Wolves 4-0 and you would normally say they are a better footballing side too. We can do it.
Yes, of course we can do it. We're essentially making the same point I think. We didn't beat Wolves by trying to keep it tight and sneak a goal, we beat them by running at them, and generally being better at every aspect of the game than they are. I think if we worry about them unduly and try to contain them, we'll have about 35% possession, and probably lose 2-0.
If we get Jack, Snodgrass and Albert tearing into them from the off, it could be as easy as it was against Leeds in 96.
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I couldn't' get a ticket for that match but watching it in Leeds with all my Leeds supporting mates was hilariously good fun!
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I couldn't' get a ticket for that match but watching it in Leeds with all my Leeds supporting mates was hilariously good fun!
You're a better man than me Drummond. I couldn't watch a game with loads of fans of our opponents.
Having said that, I was living in Paris in 1996 and got my tickets with a lot of difficulty and went with my mate who is a posh Leeds fan. The sort of bloke who applauds good play from anybody. He was very generous in defeat that day.
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I couldn't' get a ticket for that match but watching it in Leeds with all my Leeds supporting mates was hilariously good fun!
Leeds 96. I remember getting tickets by putting an advert in the pink pages and picking them up from some guy at Gravelly Hill industrial park. No mobile phones then, just the hope he would turn up. Worth every penny to see Savo's goal.
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I need to vent. What arsehole decided that a 5pm ko would be a great idea? Absolutely no consideration for those travelling from different parts of the country. No late train or coach to Devon after the match. Vent over.
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Struggling with the tickets (getting ready for this evening) as it won't let me make a group of the people I was in a group with last year because they are 'in another group'.
Is there anything my 'friends' would like to tell me?
Obviously no chance of getting through on the phone to find out how to overcome this issue!
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My dad had the same and had to phone the club to sort it.
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Struggling with the tickets (getting ready for this evening) as it won't let me make a group of the people I was in a group with last year because they are 'in another group'.
Is there anything my 'friends' would like to tell me?
Obviously no chance of getting through on the phone to find out how to overcome this issue!
I had same problem this morning (Phone just cuts off after a few rings) and eventually after logging out about 20 times and back in I was miraculously reunited with my son by re-adding him despite originally saying he was in another group!
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I couldn't' get a ticket for that match but watching it in Leeds with all my Leeds supporting mates was hilariously good fun!
You're a better man than me Drummond. I couldn't watch a game with loads of fans of our opponents.
Having said that, I was living in Paris in 1996 and got my tickets with a lot of difficulty and went with my mate who is a posh Leeds fan. The sort of bloke who applauds good play from anybody. He was very generous in defeat that day.
I wasn't popular, there were half a dozen of them. But I bloody hate Leeds so the satisfaction was like not much else...
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Struggling with the tickets (getting ready for this evening) as it won't let me make a group of the people I was in a group with last year because they are 'in another group'.
Is there anything my 'friends' would like to tell me?
Obviously no chance of getting through on the phone to find out how to overcome this issue!
Now managed to sort this. The new system seems to have put us back in old groups. I am linked to a cousin who hasn't been for about 12 years, and Jane is linked to her brother who hasn't gone to a game with her for over 10 years!
Meanwhile, the whole group I have gone to games with for about the last 8 years have disappeared from my history!
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I only have one group called "Friends and Family" which seems to have everyone in it. Why would people have more than one group?
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Struggling with the tickets (getting ready for this evening) as it won't let me make a group of the people I was in a group with last year because they are 'in another group'.
Is there anything my 'friends' would like to tell me?
Obviously no chance of getting through on the phone to find out how to overcome this issue!
I had the same problem amfy, my friend's dad wasn't in my group any more even though I'd booked tickets for him in the past and it wouldn't let me add him again. My friend had to log in to his account, go into his relationships and delete his dad. I then logged in and it let me add him. Not sure if that's the only way to do it.
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Apologies if already posted but look as if engineering works on West Coast Main Line will cause a lot of travelling issues on the 26th May. Hourly trains from Birmingham New street to London Euston via Stafford!
From National Rail enquiries future engineering page:
Engineering work is taking place at Birmingham New Street all day on Saturday, and until 10:00 on Sunday. Engineering work is also taking place between Birmingham New Street and Coventry all day on Saturday, Sunday and Monday.
Customers should also be aware that Chiltern Railways will not be operating between Birmingham Moor Street and Birmingham Snow Hill on Saturday and Sunday.
Virgin Trains:
On Saturday, Sunday and Monday, an hourly service will run between Birmingham New Street and London Euston via Stafford, calling at Sandwell & Dudley, Wolverhampton, Stafford and Milton Keynes Central.
An hourly service will also run between Coventry and London Euston, calling at Rugby, Milton Keynes Central and Watford Junction.
Chiltern Trains looking to be busy then!
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Yes, Proof House Junction is being worked on, so a rule of thumb is if your usual train journey passes by the sty then it will be diverted or rail replacement buses.
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Ticket site seems to have crashed. Got a general exception error ....after queuing for an hour.
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Me too
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I am 6409th in the queue with an estimated wait of 35 minutes!
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I am 6409th in the queue with an estimated wait of 35 minutes!
I'm six of those (which will make 10 attempts overall)
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I made it to the front of the queue only to be greeted with "Oops! a general exception has occured, please refer to the system administrator for further details..." when redirected to the tickets.avfc.co.uk website. FFS
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I said earlier in this thread that i wasnt bothered if we went up or not because I have enjoyed a good season in the Championship. Well, I was dead WRONG, i was a bag of nerves watching yesterday and so happy that we are one step closer to being back where we belong. Cant wait for the final, i truly believe we will beat them comfortably and hope everyone has a great day out.
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I made it to the front of the queue only to be greeted with "Oops! a general exception has occured, please refer to the system administrator for further details..." when redirected to the tickets.avfc.co.uk website. FFS
After removing the error message from the URL and just leaving the base https://tickets.avfc.co.uk/ and doing a few refreshes it worked.
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I made it to the front of the queue only to be greeted with "Oops! a general exception has occured, please refer to the system administrator for further details..." when redirected to the tickets.avfc.co.uk website. FFS
I had same and subsequently discovered I had 2 people added to my group - my son and my dad. Because my dad does not have a current season ticket it rejected me and said no tickets available, I deleted my dad's fan id (He died 5 years ago and had been unlinked but somehow came back again?) and it then allowed me to purchase. Even though I logged out completely and signed back in it still held me in the queue without having to start all over again. whole process took about 40 mins from joining queue to purchase - well impressed.
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Got my tickets eventually.
Shocked at how many blocks have already sold out, within the first few hours.
I can only think they have only released so many seats online?
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Got my tickets eventually.
Shocked at how many blocks have already sold out, within the first few hours.
I can only think they have only released so many seats online?
Obviously holding blocks back.
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I need to vent. What arsehole decided that a 5pm ko would be a great idea? Absolutely no consideration for those travelling from different parts of the country. No late train or coach to Devon after the match. Vent over.
I am surprised that Sky did not compete directly with CL final with 7.45 kick off but may be EFL are not allowed to do that. Sky Sport would have revelled in The wealthiest match in world football v biggest match hype.
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Not sure why it's been changed, it's always been 3pm when played on Saturdays.
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I need to vent. What arsehole decided that a 5pm ko would be a great idea? Absolutely no consideration for those travelling from different parts of the country. No late train or coach to Devon after the match. Vent over.
I am surprised that Sky did not compete directly with CL final with 7.45 kick off but may be EFL are not allowed to do that. Sky Sport would have revelled in The wealthiest match in world football v biggest match hype.
There's no way Sky or any other TV channel would put one of their big matches up against another.
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Sky don't have the Champions League Final, and they put a playoff game up against the Europa League Final this evening.
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Got my tickets eventually.
Shocked at how many blocks have already sold out, within the first few hours.
I can only think they have only released so many seats online?
Obviously holding blocks back.
Hopefully both clubs have been instructed to sell in a controlled manner so they don’t have a repeat of when Hull played there a few years back and didn’t sell out their allocation,it couldn’t be redistributed to Sheffield Wednesday ( I think were their opponents ) because tickets had been sold haphazardly ......fingers crossed 5000 plus more tickets coming our way ?
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Sky don't have the Champions League Final, and they put a playoff game up against the Europa League Final this evening.
I didn't say that Sky do have the Champions League final, and neither of tonight's games have the same importance as Saturday's.
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Sky don't have the Champions League Final, and they put a playoff game up against the Europa League Final this evening.
I didn't say that Sky do have the Champions League final, and neither of tonight's games have the same importance as Saturday's.
Quite right even Gary Lineker couldn't be arsed to turn up for a bit of punditry tonight.
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Just did mine. Took about 5 minutes! Couldn't get the block or category I wanted but happy with what I've got.
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Just read Fulham fans can buy 5 tickets each!
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Was it on here as it's been mentioned 487 times so far. :P ;D
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Was it on here as it's been mentioned 487 times so far. :P ;D
1 mention for each Fulham season ticket holder then.
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Was it on here as it's been mentioned 487 times so far. :P ;D
1 mention for each Fulham season ticket holder then.
🏳️🏳️🏳️🏳️🏳️🏳️
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Look at the prices CCFC will pay for their play off final.
Why the fuck are they so much less than ours...nearly 40%.
Category 1: Adult £60, Young Adults £45, Concession (Junior/Senior) £30
Category 2: Adult £48, Young Adults £36, Concession (Junior/Senior) £24
Category 3: Adult £44, Young Adults £33, Concession (Junior/Senior) £22
Category 4: Adult £38, Young Adults £28.50, Concession (Junior/Senior) £19
Category 5: Adult £32, Young Adults £24, Concession (Junior/Senior) £16
Category 6: Adult £26, Young Adults £19.50, Concession (Junior/Senior) £13
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Because they're two divisions lower.
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So, ....Its still a game of football at the same stadium, with the same seats.
It’s just a bloody rip off.
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I'm not denying it's a rip off. But League Two games cost less than Championship games. It's not surprising that they don't make an exception for the divisions' respective biggest games. It's supply and demand, people will pay it so they will charge it.
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Is it because they have to watch Coventry as part of the deal? Another danger is you might end up sitting next to that bloke from the snooker.
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Is it because they have to watch Coventry as part of the deal? Another danger is you might end up sitting next to that bloke from the snooker.
He's the same bellend who goes to the England games with a Shrek doll, attention seeking twat.
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I'm not denying it's a rip off. But League Two games cost less than Championship games. It's not surprising that they don't make an exception for the divisions' respective biggest games. It's supply and demand, people will pay it so they will charge it.
I presume it's also because the prize is greater. It's still nonsense though.
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I had the same seat for the semi final that I had for the final in 2015 and paid £20 more for it.
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I had the same seat for the semi final that I had for the final in 2015 and paid £20 more for it.
Me too
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Do we expect tickets to go down to general sale from 5pm Tuesday or sell out before then? If I remember correctly, we had less tickets for the FA Cup Semi and Final, and both went to general sale? I assume our ticket office have detailed purchasing information and wouldn’t state general sale if they didn’t think tickets would be available.
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Why do tickets have reissue printed on them? Also great to keep the ticket as a memento of the occasion Derby/Fulham v Aston Villa/Middlesbrough
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I had the same seat for the semi final that I had for the final in 2015 and paid £20 more for it.
seriously ....who gives a fuck?
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I thought it was an interesting observation. 20 sheets increase in 3 years is quite steep.
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I had the same seat for the semi final that I had for the final in 2015 and paid £20 more for it.
seriously ....who gives a fuck?
Less of that.
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I thought it was an interesting observation. 20 sheets increase in 3 years is quite steep.
I think Ads means it was £20 more for the Arsenal final than it was for the Liverpool semi final.
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I thought it was an interesting observation. 20 sheets increase in 3 years is quite steep.
I think Ads means it was £20 more for the Arsenal final than it was for the Liverpool semi final.
Yes that's what I meant. £70ish for the Liverpool game, £90ish for the Arsenal game for the same seat.
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Do we expect tickets to go down to general sale from 5pm Tuesday or sell out before then? If I remember correctly, we had less tickets for the FA Cup Semi and Final, and both went to general sale? I assume our ticket office have detailed purchasing information and wouldn’t state general sale if they didn’t think tickets would be available.
The FA Cup Final didn't go to general sale as we only had 25k tickets.
This will make general sale, I said in the other thread I'd expect a few thousand to still be left for general.
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Do we expect tickets to go down to general sale from 5pm Tuesday or sell out before then? If I remember correctly, we had less tickets for the FA Cup Semi and Final, and both went to general sale? I assume our ticket office have detailed purchasing information and wouldn’t state general sale if they didn’t think tickets would be available.
The FA Cup Final didn't go to general sale as we only had 25k tickets.
This will make general sale, I said in the other thread I'd expect a few thousand to still be left for general.
The proud history, bright future General?
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I had the same seat for the semi final that I had for the final in 2015 and paid £20 more for it.
seriously ....who gives a fuck?
Less of that.
Whatever......
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Calm down, calm down.
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Calm down, calm down.
0/10 for originality :)
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If you didn't conform to the stereotype, by allowing yourself to get into an absolute state over nothing, I wouldn't feel the urge to reference it.
Have you managed to get tickets for your big final next week? How much is a flight to Kiev?
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Possibly the biggest game since Highbury. We didn’t expect to beat Munich in 1982. The Swindon game didn’t provide finances like wecwill experience if we go up. Just a massive game in our DNA
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If you didn't conform to the stereotype, by allowing yourself to get into an absolute state over nothing, I wouldn't feel the urge to reference it.
Have you managed to get tickets for your big final next week? How much is a flight to Kiev?
yes all booked up and ready to go - staying at a hotel in Hayes - you are welcome to join me and jnr for a pre match drink and chat - it would give you an opportunity to challenge my allegiances face to face rather than through a keyboard :)
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If you didn't conform to the stereotype, by allowing yourself to get into an absolute state over nothing, I wouldn't feel the urge to reference it.
Have you managed to get tickets for your big final next week? How much is a flight to Kiev?
yes all booked up and ready to go - staying at a hotel in Hayes - you are welcome to join me and jnr for a pre match drink and chat - it would give you an opportunity to challenge my allegiances face to face rather than through a keyboard :)
This sounds great. It will be just like the Cup Final where Villa fans can just fight amongst themselves.
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If you didn't conform to the stereotype, by allowing yourself to get into an absolute state over nothing, I wouldn't feel the urge to reference it.
Have you managed to get tickets for your big final next week? How much is a flight to Kiev?
yes all booked up and ready to go - staying at a hotel in Hayes - you are welcome to join me and jnr for a pre match drink and chat - it would give you an opportunity to challenge my allegiances face to face rather than through a keyboard :)
Liverpool fan in extolling violence shocker.
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I had the same seat for the semi final that I had for the final in 2015 and paid £20 more for it.
seriously ....who gives a fuck?
You ok?
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If you didn't conform to the stereotype, by allowing yourself to get into an absolute state over nothing, I wouldn't feel the urge to reference it.
Have you managed to get tickets for your big final next week? How much is a flight to Kiev?
yes all booked up and ready to go - staying at a hotel in Hayes - you are welcome to join me and jnr for a pre match drink and chat - it would give you an opportunity to challenge my allegiances face to face rather than through a keyboard :)
Liverpool fan in extolling violence shocker.
Fists all over you....
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I had the same seat for the semi final that I had for the final in 2015 and paid £20 more for it.
seriously ....who gives a fuck?
Less of that.
Whatever......
Whatever indeed.