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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Toronto Villa on January 31, 2018, 04:44:13 PM
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Sky reporting we’ve agreed a deal to take him until the end of the season
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Allow me..
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I know eff all about him, but we did need cover there, seems a smart no risk move.
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Davis has faded away. RHM is an injury waiting to happen so can’t be trusted. Gabby is the same and simply put past it. RM appears to be a lost cause and at best unreliable.
Grabban does things none of our currently healthy strikers do. Having him as an option off the bench and ultimately competing with Hogan for the starting spot makes us a lot deeper and stronger.
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I would guess we will have agreed to buy him at the end, they were keen to sell
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Allow me..
Aside from the obvious positives of the goals, count the number of kits he wears. As talented as he is you have to wonder why he’s bounced around so much?
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We need extra cover up front so makes sense.
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It makes a hell of a lot of sense. Smart move if it happens.
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It always means he will not be playing for Cardiff
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I would guess we will have agreed to buy him at the end, they were keen to sell
Not sure about that as I don't think he is premier league quality.
Thinking positively.
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Seems a bit odd. He's been mostly shit for his career, but then has done well at Sunderland, so much so that he gets recalled to his home club, only for them to then loan him out again a few weeks later?
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Seems a bit odd. He's been mostly shit for his career, but then has done well at Sunderland, so much so that he gets recalled to his home club, only for them to then loan him out again a few weeks later?
By all accounts he wasn’t keen on staying at Sunderland and he returned by mutual consent.
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Decent signing,we look a bit short upfront if hogan gets another injury. Hopefully he can bag 8-10 goals between now and the end of the season.
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Needed a back up forward. Can't say much more than that.
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I don't mind us signing him because if any of our strikers get injured in the run in we are in trouble plus it can only benefit the team to have another striker ready to compete for a place in the first team.
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We needed a striker, by the sound of it we've got one. Well done to all concerned and welcome Lewis.
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Seems a bit odd. He's been mostly shit for his career, but then has done well at Sunderland, so much so that he gets recalled to his home club, only for them to then loan him out again a few weeks later?
It was him that asked to leave Sunderland.
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I hope his attitude isn't a problem. I guess it's only an assumption that he's got an attitude problem.
Did well in a wretched Sunderland side. I am glad we have strengthened but I'm a little in the dark as to his qualities.
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Good signing we need options and cover.
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I hope his attitude isn't a problem. I guess it's only an assumption that he's got an attitude problem.
Did well in a wretched Sunderland side. I am glad we have strengthened but I'm a little in the dark as to his qualities.
That’s what I’m hoping and was alluding to in my comment about how many clubs he’s been at. Be it permanently or on loan. That said we have lots of very strong personalities and leaders at the club, and he’s coming in to a very positive environment.
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I hope his attitude isn't a problem. I guess it's only an assumption that he's got an attitude problem.
He'd get ripped a new one within seconds if he has an attitude problem. Can you see the likes of Terry, Chester, Hutton, Hourihane, Jedi, Whelan etc..standing for it? Me neither.
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Seems a bit odd. He's been mostly shit for his career, but then has done well at Sunderland, so much so that he gets recalled to his home club, only for them to then loan him out again a few weeks later?
By all accounts he wasn’t keen on staying at Sunderland and he returned by mutual consent.
cant blame him
hes never been that prolific yet in a shit sunderland team hes been banging the goals in this season
and at least he aint Grant fecking Holt whos idea was that ?
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We could do worse, good move.
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If he scores 20 goals between now and the end of the season for us I will buy a shirt with his name on the back.
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Needed a striker as cover so pleased with this.
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According to Sky sources...
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It is happening.
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Grabban and hold tight, etc.
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im not ecstatic
its logical, but hardly exciting
it means fatty wont be near the team bus which is good.
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No complaints here. No point signing somebody permanently who won't be good enough in the Premier League. Which he isn't, so it'll probably be a short yet happy partnership.
If we shit the bed and he's been good, then it's a pretty sensible signing to then throw a few million at for next season (not that this scenario is particularly likely)
If we shit the bed and he's been rubbish, then he goes and we plan properly next summer.
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After Ulloa this was one of the decent moves to make. Hugil commanded a fee so this will do for now. Will provide necessary experience and goal threat option. Looking at other clubs Derby wolves they have plenty striking intent and prefer him to cameron jerome.
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We know what our first team is. If Grabban wants to seize a chance he'll have to be good. Absolute no-brainer to get him in on loan.
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I remember his game against us earlier in the season: he ran the channels well and made space (his team mates didn’t do a very good job of finding him, however), and seemed to work hard. Might work well with Hogan.
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This could work well for us. Watching the game yesterday, Davis is great to bring on against a tiring defence. Hogan and Grabban could be the one to tire them out.
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I know eff all about him, but we did need cover there, seems a smart no risk move.
Didn't he score v us this season?!
He'll do fine for us at this level. Scored decent amounts for Bournemouth, Norwich and a terrible Sunderland team so happy we've got this one done.
Our squad is looking very strong now. I'm struggling to see an area where we lack depth.
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If he scores 20 goals between now and the end of the season for us I will buy a shirt with his name on the back.
Nice one.....serious laugh out loud moment 👏
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told my lad we signed Grabban
he said he's crap
He's only 9 but he's not impressed
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Scored 22 goals in championship for Bournemouth in 13/14.
12 for Norwich the following season.
1 in the premier league.
A penalty at Villa Park for Reading last season.
12 goals for Sunderland in half a season which is really saying something with what they have up there.
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When Bournemouth went up a few years ago they had about 15 forwards to call upon.
The quality in this league ain't all that, but you need to be thinking about rotating forwards and getting goals from all parts of the side.
The days of playing a regular CF partnership through the good times and bad are gone.
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'spose beggars can't be choosers. Decent competition i guess for 4 months, but what we're gonna do in the summer if we go up is anyone's guess. Take a Man City type spend to get this squad anything other than relegation favourites
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I hope he doesn’t hinder the progress of Davis.
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Allow me..
‘Kinell there are some quality finishes on there.
I think I was first to suggest him wasn’t I? It was a while ago.
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'spose beggars can't be choosers. Decent competition i guess for 4 months, but what we're gonna do in the summer if we go up is anyone's guess. Take a Man City type spend to get this squad anything other than relegation favourites
I'm sure Kodjia could score a few in the prem.
Him, one of Davis/Hogan and a world class striker from somewhere and that should be enough.
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'spose beggars can't be choosers. Decent competition i guess for 4 months, but what we're gonna do in the summer if we go up is anyone's guess. Take a Man City type spend to get this squad anything other than relegation favourites
I'm sure Kodjia could score a few in the prem.
Him, one of Davis/Hogan and a world class striker from somewhere and that should be enough.
the world class striker from somewhere is probably the tricky bit
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'spose beggars can't be choosers. Decent competition i guess for 4 months, but what we're gonna do in the summer if we go up is anyone's guess. Take a Man City type spend to get this squad anything other than relegation favourites
I'm sure Kodjia could score a few in the prem.
Him, one of Davis/Hogan and a world class striker from somewhere and that should be enough.
heh, kodjia is one of the few really and even him i'm not sure of getting more than about 10-15. It's the whole team really. 3 bloody loan players in the 1st team already, and a load of players who don't look good enough to me. Anyway not really the thread for this. Welcome Lewis
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Davis has faded away. RHM is an injury waiting to happen so can’t be trusted. Gabby is the same and simply put past it. RM appears to be a lost cause and at best unreliable.
Grabban does things none of our currently healthy strikers do. Having him as an option off the bench and ultimately competing with Hogan for the starting spot makes us a lot deeper and stronger.
Grabban seems to play off the front man so more of a replacement for Flabby and Big Mac than Davis or Hogan.
Not sure about this one to be honest, from Ulloa to Grabban, seems a bit random.
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Seems to have a fair bit of pace and (not really having that much of a go at Bruce), if you play on the break he's gonna suit your play,
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Seems Wolves and Cardiff are sniffing around.
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According to Percy in the Telegraph, he's having a medical at BMH.
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No complaints here. No point signing somebody permanently who won't be good enough in the Premier League. Which he isn't, so it'll probably be a short yet happy partnership.
If we shit the bed and he's been good, then it's a pretty sensible signing to then throw a few million at for next season (not that this scenario is particularly likely)
If we shit the bed and he's been rubbish, then he goes and we plan properly next summer.
Yeah I’d agree.
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5 live guy just said the deal has gone through.
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Seems Wolves and Cardiff are sniffing around.
Cardiff are signing Gary Madine from Bolton.
Wolves were actually in for Benik Afobe also from Bournemouth.
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At Villa Park in Chris Coleman’s first game, Grabban absolutely worked his socks off. And was clearly frustrated that his teammates could not give him the ball. Having thought nothing about him previously, I was very impressed. Given all of the restrictions, this is a very smart deal.
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Grabban a Villain
Ian Dennis
Radio 5 live senior football reporter
Aston Villa have completed the loan signing of Lewis Grabban from Bournemouth until the end of the season. Cardiff City were also interested.
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Good deal help us get promoted Lewis.
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And not there to help Cardiff. Could be win win as they say in corporate management speak.
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Good signing. Might be the difference.
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Welcome Lewis.
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And not there to help Cardiff. Could be win win as they say in corporate management speak.
Except that Cardiff have just signed Madine from Bolton with an equally good scoring record this season.
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He's a big lump.
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And not there to help Cardiff. Could be win win as they say in corporate management speak.
Except that Cardiff have just signed Madine from Bolton with an equally good scoring record this season.
Who?
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Has he been officially announced yet? I can’t see it.
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I won't believe it until he's OTOW,BQAHSTAVIA'M'FC.
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My Enigma machine calls that the Craig Gardner affirmation "I have been a........* fan since my........* took me to.........* in my pram.
*complete appropriately.
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It is done. Stop crapping your undies.
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It’s on the sky ticker tape now.
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And you were correct CL.
No brainer once he was still available going into today. Good signing, much needed and should give us the squad power to stay with Derby to the finish now.
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He is quick. That helps.
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It's official now and all that. Welcome Lewis.
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Confirmed via an amusing Twitter video.
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Confirmed via an amusing Twitter video.
It is pretty good!
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https://www.afcb.co.uk/news/club-news/grabban-moves-on-loan-to-aston-villa also this, where AFCB are at pains to point out how well we're doing
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Wyness announces Grabban on Twitter (https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/958822265675755523/video/1)
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On the official site now....welcome Lewis!
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Confirmed via an amusing Twitter video.
Yep just posted the link. It’s funny
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Must say our PR department have upped their game this year.
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So has the team :D
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We learned a lot from Hogan's youtube video - he basically scored loads via through balls.
This guy seem to be just a tap-in merchant and a lot of the goals are where he beat (?) the offside trap that maybe down to him or the crap defending.
So he's not a something out of nothing type like Kodija, but obviously we were never likely to land a striker of that calibre.
He is simply a guy in the box to score tap-ins or take advantage of bad defending.
As said earlier in thread, nothing special but a logical and 'on-par' signing for us should Hogan get injured, may even be better replacement.
Most certainly enhances our promotion hopes.
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And then I go and spoil it all by saying something stupid like...
keith wynessVerified account
@retsub12
If peter kay did transfer announcements.......,,,,,
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12 goals in 19 games (and he didn't start all those games) in that Sunderland team is impressive. We would have struggled to have got anyone else who is in that type of goalscoring form this season at this level.
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We learned a lot from Hogan's youtube video - he basically scored loads via through balls.
This guy seem to be just a tap-in merchant and a lot of the goals are where he beat (?) the offside trap that maybe down to him or the crap defending.
So he's not a something out of nothing type like Kodija, but obviously we were never likely to land a striker of that calibre.
He is simply a guy in the box to score tap-ins or take advantage of bad defending.
As said earlier in thread, nothing special but a logical and 'on-par' signing for us should Hogan get injured, may even be better replacement.
Most certainly enhances our promotion hopes.
At least 3 or 4 30 yard plus tap ins from what I saw.....
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They’ve just beaten Chelsea without him (Bournemouth).
But if his face didn’t fit, and it does here, and he’s good, Welcome Lewis!
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Very funny video. Clearly Keith has an issue with Alan Nixon at the Sun with the tweet on there.
The resulting twitter spat is also amusing, with Keith telling him that even a blind chicken gets some corn
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Fuck the Sun.
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If he scores 20 goals between now and the end of the season for us I will buy a shirt with his name on the back.
If he does I will buy you the shirt !
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Must say our PR department have upped their game this year.
Yes, I think there’s somebody there with a bit of imagination and a lovely sense of humour.
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He's 30? Send him back when we get promoted. I wonder what the loan fee is, a million and two more if we get promoted?
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Welcome addition. He knows the championship, 12 goals in 19 games with Sunderland. Back up for the run in.
Good work Villa.
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We learned a lot from Hogan's youtube video - he basically scored loads via through balls.
This guy seem to be just a tap-in merchant and a lot of the goals are where he beat (?) the offside trap that maybe down to him or the crap defending.
So he's not a something out of nothing type like Kodija, but obviously we were never likely to land a striker of that calibre.
He is simply a guy in the box to score tap-ins or take advantage of bad defending.
As said earlier in thread, nothing special but a logical and 'on-par' signing for us should Hogan get injured, may even be better replacement.
Most certainly enhances our promotion hopes.
Is that all? Just a fella that makes defenders nervous with his runs and pulls them out of position. Plus being hungry in the box. What are you looking for in a striker?
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We learned a lot from Hogan's youtube video - he basically scored loads via through balls.
This guy seem to be just a tap-in merchant and a lot of the goals are where he beat (?) the offside trap that maybe down to him or the crap defending.
So he's not a something out of nothing type like Kodija, but obviously we were never likely to land a striker of that calibre.
He is simply a guy in the box to score tap-ins or take advantage of bad defending.
As said earlier in thread, nothing special but a logical and 'on-par' signing for us should Hogan get injured, may even be better replacement.
Most certainly enhances our promotion hopes.
At least 3 or 4 30 yard plus tap ins from what I saw.....
Dougal, only some of the goals were tap-ins. Some of them were just far away.
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We learned a lot from Hogan's youtube video - he basically scored loads via through balls.
This guy seem to be just a tap-in merchant and a lot of the goals are where he beat (?) the offside trap that maybe down to him or the crap defending.
So he's not a something out of nothing type like Kodija, but obviously we were never likely to land a striker of that calibre.
He is simply a guy in the box to score tap-ins or take advantage of bad defending.
As said earlier in thread, nothing special but a logical and 'on-par' signing for us should Hogan get injured, may even be better replacement.
Most certainly enhances our promotion hopes.
Is that all? Just a fella that makes defenders nervous with his runs and pulls them out of position. Plus being hungry in the box. What are you looking for in a striker?
He is still pining after Stern John.
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They’ve just beaten Chelsea without him (Bournemouth).
But if his face didn’t fit, and it does here, and he’s good, Welcome Lewis!
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Given Grabban's MO over the past few years, it appears to be more about others not fitting in with what he & his agent wants at any given time. He's certainly got talent; an eye for goal; and fits our need for another experienced striker: but I do question his attitude & whether or not he will fit the bill. Hopefully he'll take the latest opportunity he's been given & thrive playing for a big club challenging for promotion. Fingers crossed eh?
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They’ve just beaten Chelsea without him (Bournemouth).
But if his face didn’t fit, and it does here, and he’s good, Welcome Lewis!
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Given Grabban's MO over the past few years, it appears to be more about others not fitting in with what he & his agent wants at any given time. He's certainly got talent; an eye for goal; and fits our need for another experienced striker: but I do question his attitude & whether or not he will fit the bill. Hopefully he'll take the latest opportunity he's been given & thrive playing for a big club challenging for promotion. Fingers crossed eh?
He can't get a new deal, or angle for a move as he's only here six months anyway, so there's no reason for any issues. Plus I'd imagine if he did play up he would be dispatched forthwith with a size 10 up his harris.
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Loan seems a no brainier.
If his attitude isn’t up to scratch we don’t involve him.
Could always have him lodge with McCormack and they could get stuck behind the gates together.
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I think this is a very astute deal. He looked very good against us earlier in the season, worked hard, held the ball up and ran the channels well.
On my limited views of him, well just that one game really, he looks like he has the potential to be a good mix of the best bits of the two players he will be competing against. He's more experienced and scores more than Davis, but has similar physical presence and work rate and yet he has the pace and goal threat of Hogan but gets involved in the build up play more often.
And if he plays up we can fuck him off back to Bournemouth quick sharp.
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Didn't he score against us for Reading last season as well?
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Article in the Mail by a journalist who covers Bournemouth who seems to think he needs to play alongside a big player to get the best out of him goals wise. Not sure if that was the case at Sunderland? Anyone know if they played 2 up front?
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Welcome to Aston Villa Lewis looking forward to seeing him play.
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Fuck the Sun.
x2
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Looked at few Sunderland results and seems they played him up front alone in a 4141 formation so wasn't playing off another striker
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Didn't he score against us for Reading last season as well?
Clearly no one was actually at these games and we were all on here endlessly arguing about Steve Bruce (wink).
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Everything Counts by Depeche Mode for his song? (slight modification required):
The Grabben hands
Grabben all they can
All for themselves After all
The Grabben hands
Grabben all they can....
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Article in the Mail by a journalist who covers Bournemouth who seems to think he needs to play alongside a big player to get the best out of him goals wise. Not sure if that was the case at Sunderland? Anyone know if they played 2 up front?
They started the season playing him and James Vaughan together and then rotated between them.
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Article in the Mail by a journalist who covers Bournemouth who seems to think he needs to play alongside a big player to get the best out of him goals wise. Not sure if that was the case at Sunderland? Anyone know if they played 2 up front?
They started the season playing him and James Vaughan together and then rotated between them.
Cheers SoccerHQ. That's reassuring to know.
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Article in the Mail by a journalist who covers Bournemouth who seems to think he needs to play alongside a big player to get the best out of him goals wise. Not sure if that was the case at Sunderland? Anyone know if they played 2 up front?
Yes he played up front with Niall Quinn.
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Article in the Mail by a journalist who covers Bournemouth who seems to think he needs to play alongside a big player to get the best out of him goals wise. Not sure if that was the case at Sunderland? Anyone know if they played 2 up front?
Yes he played up front with Niall Quinn.
Well no wonder he scored loads. My Gran would be banging them in left right and centre with Quinn as a striking partner in this division ;-) Did you ever see that match he scored and then went in goal against Derby? Classic. And on the subject I didn't know he knocked Steve McMahon out in a fight on a drunken night out and that's where his Disco Pants song came from
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He's 30? Send him back when we get promoted. I wonder what the loan fee is, a million and two more if we get promoted?
I would have thought they are fairly happy to get his wages covered. I wouldn't imagine any fee would have been significant given our FFP position.
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At least 3 or 4 30 yard plus tap ins from what I saw.....
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Dougal, only some of the goals were tap-ins. Some of them were just far away.
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More of this kind of thing.
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Article in the Mail by a journalist who covers Bournemouth who seems to think he needs to play alongside a big player to get the best out of him goals wise. Not sure if that was the case at Sunderland? Anyone know if they played 2 up front?
Yes he played up front with Niall Quinn.
Well no wonder he scored loads. My Gran would be banging them in left right and centre with Quinn as a striking partner in this division ;-) Did you ever see that match he scored and then went in goal against Derby? Classic. And on the subject I didn't know he knocked Steve McMahon out in a fight on a drunken night out and that's where his Disco Pants song came from
I dunno, but I was at that match when he tripped over a worm to win a penalty against us the cheating bastard.
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Pleased to get him in, I think it gives us a little extra insurance and an option off the bench.
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Article in the Mail by a journalist who covers Bournemouth who seems to think he needs to play alongside a big player to get the best out of him goals wise. Not sure if that was the case at Sunderland? Anyone know if they played 2 up front?
Yes he played up front with Niall Quinn.
Well no wonder he scored loads. My Gran would be banging them in left right and centre with Quinn as a striking partner in this division ;-) Did you ever see that match he scored and then went in goal against Derby? Classic. And on the subject I didn't know he knocked Steve McMahon out in a fight on a drunken night out and that's where his Disco Pants song came from
I dunno, but I was at that match when he tripped over a worm to win a penalty against us the cheating bastard.
I'm prepared to let that slide now that he knocked out Steve McMahon - joking aside I've warmed to him over the years as he seems like a decent bloke (saying that I can't remember the match - which one was it?) I do remember that City team throwing the match when we were going for the title against their neighbours when their fans even had banners at Villa Park wishing us luck. Good luck from the City of Manchester I think it read.
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Another player I know nothing about. In all honesty I hope he doesn't make a single appearance for us as it will mean the attack we have remain injury free and will be doing the business.
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Decent loan signing for me. He'll be useful. Hogan has hit a bit of form but Davis has faded and that's it so we needed one more really for the run in. It covers our bases. We're in good form. We're working hard, nicking results and we're also dominating some games here and there too which is nice. I'm quite happy with the two signings. I didn't think we needed too much (provided a bit more luck with injuries). If he scores a few goals which take us up, all the better. I don't think he's Prem quality but may be alright as a back up next season. He's got good physical attributes. If JK gets back full fit, he'll be the one who could potentially make the step up.
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He's a stop gap and given that fact he has decent credentials at this level. Do I think he'll be in the squad in August? No, but he'll have hopefully served his purpose by then.
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I hope he is not another Grant Holt.
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I hope he is not another Grant Holt.
Check his Valentine's arrangements in case he has booked a candle lit meal for two at Greggs (I am not joking about that being a real thing either).
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Why would he be anything like Holt? He’s scored 12 goals this season, in this division for one of the worst teams in the division. We’ll create way more chances for him when he plays and he brings another type of attacking dimension to what we have with Hogan or Davis.
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Allow me..
Looks like he's played for everyone...
Does have an eye for goal and one of those players who can make a goal out of nothing.
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Gregg's even do candle-lit meals?
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You need the candle to warm up the cold sausage rolls that they sell.
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Our new number erm...45
(http://thumb.ibb.co/iovhG6/ED97_FCD6_3_D9_E_4_E41_B623_54112_B32_F57_C.jpg) (http://ibb.co/iovhG6)
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Our new number erm...45
(http://thumb.ibb.co/iovhG6/ED97_FCD6_3_D9_E_4_E41_B623_54112_B32_F57_C.jpg) (http://ibb.co/iovhG6)
Why did I start immediately singing “stars on 45 keep on burning in my eyes”
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I just hope he hasn't picked it so he can do something wanky like adding a + in between.
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I just hope he hasn't picked it so he can do something wanky like adding a + in between.
Nobody does that...oh
(http://thumb.ibb.co/k5pRtm/12_BF1_B12_92_B1_462_B_90_E2_97_EA15_D53908.jpg) (http://ibb.co/k5pRtm)
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I just hope he hasn't picked it so he can do something wanky like adding a + in between.
Nobody does that...oh
(http://thumb.ibb.co/k5pRtm/12_BF1_B12_92_B1_462_B_90_E2_97_EA15_D53908.jpg) (http://ibb.co/k5pRtm)
That's exactly who I was thinking of when I saw it, it's probably just coincidence though.
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Wanky - what a superb word.
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Why did Sunderland allow him on loan?
This guy is a goalscorer. They are going down. I'm guessing I've missed something and he must have fell out with the manager, I don't know.
But what a bit of business it has been for us.
Should be three in three for him (penalty taker?) but who cares. He is doing the business.
Well done to the club on bringing him in.
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Why did Sunderland allow him on loan?
This guy is a goalscorer. They are going down. I'm guessing I've missed something and he must have fell out with the manager, I don't know.
But what a bit of business it has been for us.
Should be three in three for him (penalty taker?) but who cares. He is doing the business.
Well done to the club on bringing him in.
He wanted to leave I think so bournemouth recalled him
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I think it is more he has confused Grabban with being a Sunderland, rather than Bournemouth, player.
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Sorry.
Knew it didn't make any sense for Sunderland to loan him out.
I've been very silly here and should have checked.
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Sorry.
Knew it didn't make any sense for Sunderland to loan him out.
I've been very silly here and should have checked.
No need to apologise. I clearly knew how you had the wrong end of that particular stick. It would have been like us loaning out Ayew in the January of the season we dropped.
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That's not a bad idea, will free up a bit more cash in wages if we loan Ayew out.
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That's not a bad idea, will free up a bit more cash in wages if we loan Ayew out.
He's not been in bad form, we could get a decent amount for him. Again. If we kidnapped him. They'll never notice, they've got his brother back.
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We can loan them the Gardner brothers to make up for it.
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Grabban really enjoyed yesterday victory and great to see such a goal scorer doing what he does best.
Real strong addition and looking at record has best minutes to goal ratio amongst the top scorers and potential to be leading scorer in league.
There is more than a good chance he could end up top scorer in championship. Albert giving a good go too!
Championship Top Scorers
Bobby Reid 17 Goals (5 Assists)
Matej Vydra 17 Goals (3 Assists)
Leon Clarke 15 Goals (3 Assists)
Lewis Grabban 15 Goals
Ryan Sessegnon 14 Goals (4 Assists)
Albert Adomah 13 Goals (4 Assists)
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The most ridiculous one on that list is Sessegnon... he was born this century and he's not even a forward! Annoying that nobody bought him in January or I think Fulham would be out of the race.
Very pleased with Grabban. Be nice if we could have the top scorer in the division. When did that last happen?
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I think I might have to hold up a hand and admit I was wrong on this one. I didn't particularly want him because his record before this season wasn't that great and he'd acted a bit of a tit a few times but right now he's doing the business and has definitely helped us cope with the injuries to Grealish and Adomah. I'd still like to see RHM get some game time before the end of the season though, I think he can become a very good striker.
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The most ridiculous one on that list is Sessegnon... he was born this century and he's not even a forward! Annoying that nobody bought him in January or I think Fulham would be out of the race.
Very pleased with Grabban. Be nice if we could have the top scorer in the division. When did that last happen?
When I first heard of Sessegnon at Fulham , I assumed it was the old baggies player and wasnt that bothered , he wont keep scoring those goals I thought , hes getting on a bit . took me a few mths to realise it was a 17 year old wonder kid .
If I was Southgate , I would throw him in the world cup squad
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I think I might have to hold up a hand and admit I was wrong on this one. I didn't particularly want him because his record before this season wasn't that great and he'd acted a bit of a tit a few times but right now he's doing the business and has definitely helped us cope with the injuries to Grealish and Adomah. I'd still like to see RHM get some game time before the end of the season though, I think he can become a very good striker.
It beats the Grant Holt signing . He has done brilliant since he has been here , really like the look of him.
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Be nice if we could have the top scorer in the division. When did that last happen?
Peter Withe in 1981, I think.
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Be nice if we could have the top scorer in the division. When did that last happen?
Peter Withe in 1981, I think.
Yep, finished joint top with Archibald iirc.
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Brian Little in 74/75 was the last Villa player to be the clear top scorer, albeit in division 2. And I can't count Grabban, although if he goes on a tear he could pass Albert's total for us and end up being top scorer for 2 clubs in one season as I can't see anyone at Sunderland matching his 12 for them.
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He’s doing well.
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The most ridiculous one on that list is Sessegnon... he was born this century and he's not even a forward! Annoying that nobody bought him in January or I think Fulham would be out of the race.
Very pleased with Grabban. Be nice if we could have the top scorer in the division. When did that last happen?
Sessegnon must be an outside bet for a world cup place
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Sessegnon has a twin brother who is supposed to be quite a prospect, Fredericks the right back also looks a very good player.
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Yup, Ryan Fredericks looked the real deal against us. A proper footballer that will have no problem adapting in the PL (hopefully with us).
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The most ridiculous one on that list is Sessegnon... he was born this century and he's not even a forward! Annoying that nobody bought him in January or I think Fulham would be out of the race.
Very pleased with Grabban. Be nice if we could have the top scorer in the division. When did that last happen?
When I first heard of Sessegnon at Fulham , I assumed it was the old baggies player and wasnt that bothered , he wont keep scoring those goals I thought , hes getting on a bit . took me a few mths to realise it was a 17 year old wonder kid .
If I was Southgate , I would throw him in the world cup squad
I wouldn’t. Great prospect but he was kept pretty quite by Tuanzebe
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If I was Southgate, I'd call him up to the World Cup squad now and withdraw him from club matches until it starts.
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Who does Bobby Reid play for? shows my interest in the other clubs that I’ve ever heard of the divisions top scorer.
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The most ridiculous one on that list is Sessegnon... he was born this century and he's not even a forward! Annoying that nobody bought him in January or I think Fulham would be out of the race.
Very pleased with Grabban. Be nice if we could have the top scorer in the division. When did that last happen?
When I first heard of Sessegnon at Fulham , I assumed it was the old baggies player and wasnt that bothered , he wont keep scoring those goals I thought , hes getting on a bit . took me a few mths to realise it was a 17 year old wonder kid .
If I was Southgate , I would throw him in the world cup squad
I think he’s related to the former Baggies player, his nephew maybe.
And Bobby Reid plays for Bristol City.
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Booby plays for Bristols.
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Booby plays for Bristols.
Booby Reid rest in peace x
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Anyone know how much he'd cost for a permanent signing?
Surely not as much as Hogan/McCormack? If the worst happens and we stay down, he's our starting striker next season.
Re-assess if we go up of course.
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There's obviously a character issue there. Doesn't get on with Bournemouth, didn't want to play for Sunderland etc. I've been pleased with him and he has done well, but I'd be cautious about signing someone like him on a permanent deal.
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There's obviously a character issue there. Doesn't get on with Bournemouth, didn't want to play for Sunderland etc. I've been pleased with him and he has done well, but I'd be cautious about signing someone like him on a permanent deal.
That's a fair point, but hopefully it might just be a case of right cub, right time. In any case, if he scores the goals that help get us up, that'll do to start with. We can worry about the rest in the summer.
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That's a fair point, but hopefully it might just be a case of right cub, right time. In any case, if he scores the goals that help get us up, that'll do to start with. We can worry about the rest in the summer.
I'll bear with you on that one.
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There's obviously a character issue there. Doesn't get on with Bournemouth, didn't want to play for Sunderland etc. I've been pleased with him and he has done well, but I'd be cautious about signing someone like him on a permanent deal.
I agree. The world and its uncle knows he is a very talented player, but he is prone to get the hump.
I was right at the front of the Holte for the game against PNE for the first time since we beat Cardiff at Christmas under The Doc. From the moment the ref gave the penalty right through all the ridiculous melodrama of their protests, he was pissing himself laughing.
I would class him as what we used to call a maverick.
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Got a great chance of being the match winner today.
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Not even in the squad?
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Not even in the squad?
He’s starting
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I can't read
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A quality forward, superb signing.
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Excellent signing
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A proper centre forward. Stronger, fast and a natural instinct for his position.
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Tremendous forward display tonight.
The ball sticks to him when it's booted upfront.
If we'd had him in August we'd be where Wolves are now.
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I wasn't convinced when he joined us but he's been excellent so far.
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Despite Hogan’s recent improvement I prefer Grabban if we play a lone striker. More athletic and aggressive
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I was optimistic when he joined. Admittedly after a bit of tinternet research as opposed to my own (lack of) knowledge about him, but he has boosted us and I rate him.
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He's obviously a very talented player so you do have to wonder why he's in the Championship on loan and never stays anywhere very long.
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Despite Hogan’s recent improvement I prefer Grabban if we play a lone striker. More athletic and aggressive
Is there any doubt?
O.k Hogan's nicked a few since Xmas but their general hold up play is night and day. Grabban is just a better fit for the way we play.
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No question.
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He’s been a fine addition.
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He's obviously a very talented player so you do have to wonder why he's in the Championship on loan and never stays anywhere very long.
For a guy that hadn't played in weeks before joining us, he looks a different class to most forwards in the division. Far superior player to Hogan.
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Inspired signing!
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A run to to the near post to score a goal! Only since once by a Villla player in many a long year since a Joe Cole conversion.
And deliberately standing in an offside position at free kicks and corners and wandering back on at the right moment to take advantage of the new rules. Horse Face at Manure and Teary Henry Spunkstain were doing this as the soon as the rules changed.
It is an omen, a sign. Auspicious weapons are being forged deep in the bowels of VP and BH, and interlopers and thimble riggers will be put to the sword. So it is written.
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Last season, we had Kodjia scoring loads but nobody else chipping in with anything significant. This season, we've been scoring goals from everywhere but lacked a striker who was scoring every other game. Grabban's showing us what happens when you have both, 11 goals in the last 3 games for the team and 4 in 4 for him. He's made one heck of an impact.
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Reminds me of Collymore on a good day.
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Reminds me of Collymore on a good day.
I can see that too.
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He runs just like Collymore.
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He is a club hobo like Stanley Victor.
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Reminds me of Collymore on a good day.
I can see that too.
my mate said the same at the game ...
I only became aware of Grabban when he came to VP with Blunderland earlier this season. Then, I noted his incessant off-the-ball running and the way he kept splitting the CB. Since he joined us, I also see that he gives the CB. A really physically tough time; not an easy man to play against.
All of which is great.
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Pft you're weeks late with your Collymore comparisons. Bloody band waggen jumpers.
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As much as Hogan has improved recently, Grabban offers much more playing as the lone striker
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Dare I say it he appears to be settled and really enjoying his time here. Long may it continue. I'm conscious that Sunderland fans took to him initially and then it all went sour despite him scoring so many goals for them. I'd love to really know what went on up there.
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Looks to me like a player good enough to play in the top flight. If he keeps this up we should look to sign him permanently if we go up and another loan if we don’t. I doubt he would cost much either.
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Well done me for suggesting we sign him and for saying when we did that he would soon be first choice. Hogan = Bent, Grabban = Benteke, in that the latter two can actually play football outside the box.
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Not quite seeing the Collywobbles comparisons.
Stan had his issues, but when he was on it, he could make his own goals out of nothing. And dribble the length of the pitch doing so.
He's closer to a Vassell-type - or what Gabby could have been with a bit of hunger and nous- a nuisance of a player who can work the channels and free up a bit of space for others to exploit. He seems to anticipate where the ball will break far better than that pair too. Which is odd, considering they both gained international recognition.
He also has a bit of a nasty streak in him and seems to enjoy a spat with the opposition centre half. Which is no bad thing.
Hogan has looked more confident recently. But if he ain't scoring, he ain't really doing much else.
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Dare I say it he appears to be settled and really enjoying his time here. Long may it continue. I'm conscious that Sunderland fans took to him initially and then it all went sour despite despite him scoring so many goals for them. I'd love to really know what went on up there.
I'm not sure I'd read into anything that went on at Sunderland, they're loong past the 'sour' stage and I think any player would struggle in that toxic atmosphere. Amazing he managed to get the goals he did!
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Not quite seeing the Collywobbles comparisons.
Stan had his issues, but when he was on it, he could make his own goals out of nothing. And dribble the length of the pitch doing so.
He's closer to a Vassell-type - or what Gabby could have been with a bit of hunger and nous- a nuisance of a player who can work the channels and free up a bit of space for others to exploit. He seems to anticipate where the ball will break far better than that pair too. Which is odd, considering they both gained international recognition.
He also has a bit of a nasty streak in him and seems to enjoy a spat with the opposition centre half. Which is no bad thing.
Hogan has looked more confident recently. But if he ain't scoring, he ain't really doing much else.
The Collymore thing is not so much his ability, but his movement and gait is really reminiscent.
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Fair enough, so.
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The way he executed the goal on Saturday was top flight stuff. And I also don’t want to worry too much about his tenure at Sunderland because as we found out when you are shit everything turns that way. He is now in a successful set up. However more important question is why didn’t he establish himself at Bmouth?
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I don't care - I just want him to score every time he plays to help us face them next season
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Well done me for suggesting we sign him and for saying when we did that he would soon be first choice. Hogan = Bent, Grabban = Benteke, in that the latter two can actually play football outside the box.
Fair play, that was a good spot, I'd never heard of him!
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Not quite seeing the Collywobbles comparisons.
Stan had his issues, but when he was on it, he could make his own goals out of nothing. And dribble the length of the pitch doing so.
He's closer to a Vassell-type - or what Gabby could have been with a bit of hunger and nous- a nuisance of a player who can work the channels and free up a bit of space for others to exploit. He seems to anticipate where the ball will break far better than that pair too. Which is odd, considering they both gained international recognition.
He also has a bit of a nasty streak in him and seems to enjoy a spat with the opposition centre half. Which is no bad thing.
Hogan has looked more confident recently. But if he ain't scoring, he ain't really doing much else.
The Collymore thing is not so much his ability, but his movement and gait is really reminiscent.
I said exactly the same to my dad on Saturday. He bullies defenders and runs the channels like Stan did though. On a good day!
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He's been a brilliant loan signing for us really like the man.
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I did some digging on one of the Sunderland Forums and reading between the lines it looks as though Bournemouth simply recalled him (as they were looking to get a transfer fee and maybe Sunderland couldn't offer him a permanent deal?) and Lewis didn't have much of an option. There was initial interest from Wolves but he's ended up here (not sure who the other club that were after him were?). Sunderland will have difficulty trying to explain why/how they let someone who has scored 12 goals in 19 games for them leave to their fans, so there's always the possibility of a degree of spin? Taken from the Sunderland message board
On 5 January safc.com announced that the clubs had mutually agreed to cancel the loan agreement. It wasn't down to the activation of a clause by Bournemouth, we agreed to terminate the agreement.
On 2 February Coleman said "Lewis informed us of his desire to leave".
But Grabban said "There was a little bit of interest from Wolves to begin with but they went onto something else. I was called back with the indication that Bournemouth were going to sell me but that didn’t happen. There was also interest from elsewhere but Villa was the club I chose. As for Sunderland, I thought it was a good time. 22 In the press it came out that I wanted to go back. That’s not true. I was playing week in, week out and scoring goals, who wouldn’t be happy? The clubs agreed what they agreed and that was that."
Then, yesterday, Coleman admitted that Grabban had never spoken to him: "He actually never came to me, he went to see our chief executive. As we understood it he had cancelled his accommodation, then had a conversation with our chief executive to say his time here was up."
So even on Coleman's version of events, the club agreed to release their top scorer, who had 12 goals in 19 games for the worst side in the Division, without Coleman ever having a conversation with Grabban about it. And Grabban disputes the conversation and it may have been on the basis that Grabban wanted a move to Wolves which fell through anyway.
I hope Sunderland manage to get their act together and stay up their fans deserve much, much better. Can't say the same about their board/owner though.
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Jesus, that's a level of ineptitude beyond what we pulled off when we went down.
They are truly fucked.
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I like Lewis Grabban, he was excellent on Saturday. I'm going to predict a goal haul similar to that of Darren Bent when he first signed for us Jan-May.
EDIT : And yes, I thought the same thing with the Collymore comparisons on Saturday. He comes deep and lays it off and runs just like Collymore did for us (the odd times he could be arsed) and he's similar in the box with the poacher instinct. He's pretty strong physically and quick but so far he doesn't look the threat Collymore was shooting from distance. We are of course talking about a league below but touch wood, so far he's not appearing to be temperamental like Collymore was.
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Far superior player to Hogan, better movement, better touch, hold up play. Would make you question why he hasn't progressed further in the game..
Our loan players have been excellent, even Onomoah in the first half of the season.
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No complaints with how we've gone about our transfer business really.
Really pleased with how we've got rid of duds and brought in useful players who are getting the job done.
Wonder of we will see any of the players on loan come back and have another go at it with us.
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i don't want to think about what would have happened if Onomare had been playing on Saturday - he'd have been marmelized
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I first read that we were linked to Grabban last Autumn. I didn't know anything about him so looked him up on YT. His goals were far from spectacular, more the "ugly" type of goal. Now whilst a goal is a goal and you don't get any more for a spectacular goal, I questioned whether Grabban was the answer for a team who played with just one up front.
I watched him closely when Sunderland came here and he looked a bit more lively than I had anticipated but I still wasn't sold on him.
I've watched him in all of his appearances in a Villa shirt and I've been really, really impressed, climaxing with his great performance on Saturday. If he continues this between now and the end of the season, I'd have no hesitation in signing him on a permanent, regardless of what division we are playing in next season.
At this moment in time, I wouldn't swap Grabban for Ulla despite being disappointed that we had done so in January.
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I think its his ability for the ball to stick and similarly move it on at pace. His movement is excellent, as he drifts wide and deep, yet he still seems to be in a position to split the centre halves, like Saturday.
Good player.
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He’s a very strong lad too and has a very stable centre of gravity so he doesn’t get knocked off the ball easily. And at 6ft he can compete for headers while having good footwork and movement. Not the fastest but he makes use of his speed through his positioning. He’s exactly what we needed in January to help see us over the line.
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I think its his ability for the ball to stick and similarly move it on at pace. His movement is excellent, as he drifts wide and deep, yet he still seems to be in a position to split the centre halves, like Saturday.
Good player.
Yep and probably still not quite at full sharpness yet either. He has a welcome combination for any striker - strong enough to hold the ball up and enough pace to get in behind defenders.
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He's currently on 16 this season, total number of goals? Barring injury I'm going for another 5 if we don't make the playoffs. 6 if we do.
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I've watched him in all of his appearances in a Villa shirt and I've been really, really impressed, climaxing with his great performance on Saturday.
Blimey, he was good but he didn't have that effect on me.
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I've watched him in all of his appearances in a Villa shirt and I've been really, really impressed, climaxing with his great performance on Saturday.
Blimey, he was good but he didn't have that effect on me.
Leading the line in a side that scored 4 goals against the league leaders was a great performance, even allowing for the low bar that Hogan has set.
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Whoosh
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I've watched him in all of his appearances in a Villa shirt and I've been really, really impressed, climaxing with his great performance on Saturday.
Blimey, he was good but he didn't have that effect on me.
He wanted to pull him off at half time.
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fortunately he hadn't blown his load at that point
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fortunately he hadn't blown his load at that point
I knew he would cum good.
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fortunately he hadn't blown his load at that point
I knew he would cum good.
He still needs a few more spunky performances to win me over
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Last night he looked impotent, away from the action while our box was being pummelled.
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Too much dribbling, not enough shooting.
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It was extremely hard for him last night.
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It was extremely hard for him last night.
Until Bruce pulled him off.
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I expected Bruce to take Lewis off in the first half and then Jack off at half time.
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He picked up a bit of a Yorkshire accent from his time at Rotherham. I heard him chastising Grealish for not getting into the box at the right time.
"Eeh, Jack yer late!"
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He picked up a bit of a Yorkshire accent from his time at Rotherham. I heard him chastising Grealish for not getting into the box at the right time.
"Eeh, Jack yer late!"
It's a cracker!
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oooops !!!
Aston Villa player's brother-in-law crashed new Ferrari
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-43558486
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oooops !!!
Aston Villa player's brother-in-law crashed new Ferrari
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-43558486
Shipped back to Italy for repairs? A good panel beater would have had it as good as new!
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oooops !!!
Aston Villa player's brother-in-law crashed new Ferrari
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-43558486
Shipped back to Italy for repairs? A good panel beater would have had it as good as new!
You could T Cut that out, no problem.
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As they would say over here when presenting a near write-off...I've had a little bit of a tip.
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Took his goal well.
Great bit of transfer business.
Well done Lewis.
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He's as very composed player.
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If we don't go up, would like to sign him permanently if we can afford him.
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This is his level.
Ditto Adomah, Snodgrass et al.
We've only got 3 players who you'd want to sign up at this stage; Grealish, Chester and Johnson. Kodija possibly. A few others could do a job but if they started more than 10 games we'd be in the shtuck.
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This is his level.
Ditto Adomah, Snodgrass et al.
We've only got 3 players who you'd want to sign up at this stage; Grealish, Chester and Johnson. Kodija possibly. A few others could do a job but if they started more than 10 games we'd be in the shtuck.
Agree with this, if we make it this season there will have to be almost a new team bought, most of what we have are championship level at best. Any thought of using most of these in the premiership will mean a swift return.
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Have you seen Brighton's or Huddersfield's squads. Teams can easily stay in the PL with good coaching and management.
Anyway, when we do go up, I trust that we won't be aiming only to stay in the league.
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Ate you referring to the huddersfield who may well get relegated?
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Anyway wolves are heading straight into the champions league so any team that can beat them must qualify for the Europa.
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I like Grabban, he put a shift in yesterday and won us the game
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Teams can easily stay in the PL with good coaching and management.
Can any one see the obvious flaw here?
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This is his level.
Ditto Adomah, Snodgrass et al.
We've only got 3 players who you'd want to sign up at this stage; Grealish, Chester and Johnson. Kodija possibly. A few others could do a job but if they started more than 10 games we'd be in the shtuck.
You would wonder why Grabban has had such a nomadic career, clearly has plenty of ability. To be fair to Bruce, Johnstone, Snodgrass and Grabban have been three superb loan signings.
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Totally agree - if we don't go up I'd like Grabban leading the line ( if the price was right) with Kodjia out left and Albert right, assuming Snoddy would be off to WH or elsewhere. We've then got The Russian and KD fighting for some forward spots too. And Jedinack llooks like he could step into Terry's spot too.
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Teams can easily stay in the PL with good coaching and management.
Can any one see the obvious flaw here?
No; do tell.
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Anyway wolves are heading straight into the champions league so any team that can beat them must qualify for the Europa.
I think Wolves should be sent to Russia in the summer to represent England in the World Cup.
They are such gods, they would win the cup by the quarter finals.
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Ate you referring to the huddersfield who may well get relegated?
How about Bournemouth, Burnley, Brighton and Watford.
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I was impressed by Grabban
last night - he looked committed and composed unlike Hogan when he came on
Grabban reminds a bit of Collymore - his style of running and the way he holds the ball up
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Yes a little bit like Stan but no where near him. Collymore could have ranked alongside the best in the world in the mid to late 90's if only....
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I was impressed by Grabban
last night - he looked committed and composed unlike Hogan when he came on
Grabban reminds a bit of Collymore - his style of running and the way he holds the ball up
I've been impressed by Grabban since he first joined us. I must confess to not knowing anything about him prior to that.
We were back to 433 last night and if we stay down, I'd like us to revert to this next season.
Ideally, in those circumstances, I would like us to either get Grabban back on loan or to buy him outright. I'd then play a front 3 of either Grabban, Kodjia, Adomah, Green or (last choice) Hogan. This is of course assuming that Snodgrass won't be coming back.
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I was impressed by Grabban
last night - he looked committed and composed unlike Hogan when he came on
Grabban reminds a bit of Collymore - his style of running and the way he holds the ball up
Totally agree with these comments and also the previous one questioning why a player of his unquestionable ability has had such a nomadic career
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He’s probably just happy that he’s finally playing for a big club.
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If we don't go up, would like to sign him permanently if we can afford him.
I'd take him even if we do go up.
Has a bit of everything to his game -without being truly outstanding in any one aspect.
Thought we were getting a mobile striker who could -in theory- play anywhere across the front three. But would play in a similar fashion in any of those three positions. Like a Scott Sinclair, for example.
But he can switch his game up depending on where he plays. Directly up top? He can hold the ball up a bit and make it stick, is a nuisance to centre halves and is reasonable in the air.
Out wide? He can pull fullbacks out of position, or get in behind, with a well timed run.
Tuesday night was possibly the best I'd seen from him. In a dour match, he was prob our best outfield player (sorry Jack).
That Cardiff shithouse is still trying to find his way back into the stadium after that cheeky dummy in the corner of the Holte and Trinity.
And I thought the defence splitting pass to put Hourihane through was from Jack initially.
He has had a nomadic career up until now. But realistically, we'll be the biggest club he plays for. Perhaps he knows that and is determined to make it work.
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Agree with Kevin. I'd take him as a back-up striker even if we do go up. Pest of a striker for defenders to deal with, always going to get goals.
Him, Kodija and a new signing plus RHM and Davis is a decent set of options and doesn't block the progress of the younger strikers.
Hogan, McCormack and Gabby should all go even if we take a big hit on transfer fees - that's £100k plus saved on wages towards a new striker.
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anyone who scores 12 goals for a crap team like Sunderland , must be pretty decent. I do like him and heard he has played midfield in the past and seeing that ball to conor I can see why they used him there . Sign him up
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I like Grabban.
Intelligent
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He seems to like it here too - I would welcome him as a new signing as long as the price is reasonable
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He's done well but I wonder if we'd got Mitrovic instead of him, would we be where Fulham are now?
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He's done well but I wonder if we'd got Mitrovic instead of him, would we be where Fulham are now?
Hogan?
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No, Grabban, as they both moved on-loan in January.
Anyway, I was, ahem, trying to tempt fate into a Brentford equaliser, looks like it did the trick.
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Someone like Grabban should've been signed in August.
We were well short upfront start of the season (Gabby starting and Samba coming on as emergency CF). We knew Kodjia wouldn't be available for first 10 games months in advance.
Poor planning and contributed to one win in our first seven league games.
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8)
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Decent bit of work by Bruce to bring Grabban on board - I like his confidence - shame we didn't have him at the start of the season - would like to keep him for next season wherever we are
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Just noted Ramadan starts 15th May - hope this doesn't have any effect on his stamina levels
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I think he's the best, most complete striker we've had in ages. He held the ball up brilliantly by himself today, then when Hogan came on, he shifted out wide. And of course he scored two very good goals.
He looks every bit the £12m striker that Hogan doesn't.
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Other than that you love Hogan though right Riss?
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Just in case I haven't made my position and views clear, I think Hogan is shit. No really, I do. He came on today, stood between their two central defenders for 25 minutes, then when he did get a chance on a plate, he skied it over the bar. Absolute rubbish.
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But he does run around with purpose like he’s going to do something soon.
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But he does run around with purpose like he’s going to do something soon.
He didn't today. He hung around their goal like I do after 50 minutes of five aside football and I'm breathing out of my arse.
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We've proved to be at our best when playing to Hogan's strengths. Only with Grabban in for Hogan.
I have to think he's been looking for a home where he "fits". Maybe it's us, and he'll be happy, fruitful and successful.
Well, until we get someone better, obvs.
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I like Hogan. He seems to have the right attitude and there is a decent player there.
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I don't dislike Hogan but there is a gulf in class between him and Grabban.
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He's doing a very good job at convincing us to sign him permanently.
Problem is, he's giving Bournemouth a very good reason to charge a premium for him.
When you see the transfer fees paid for the likes of Kodjia, Hogan and even Assumabongface at Boro in recent years, why should a player who has had more than once decent season at this level go for drastically less?
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Difference is he's 30 and only as 18 months left on his contract so you assume he'd be cheaper. The others you mention were all mid 20s or younger. What would concern me about signing him is why has he gone through so many clubs, we're his 13th club if you include loans and playing for Bournemouth twice. That's some going. Then again i'm probably just wary of us being stuck with another expensive misfit striker.
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Joint top scorer in championship. Sign him up
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Blimey he’s 30, didn’t realise that. Not worth paying through the nose then. Good player
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If we'd had Grabban from the start of the season I think we'd have been in the top 2. He scored a lot for a struggling team before that, and offers more than Hogan. People go on about not playing to Hogan's strengths, but since he's been here, he is yet to show what those really are.
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People go on about not playing to Hogan's strengths, but since he's been here, he is yet to show what those really are.
Remember when we played to his strengths and he scored 5 in 5?
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He's a very good footballer. The technique for both his goals, but particularly the first, was excellent.
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People go on about not playing to Hogan's strengths, but since he's been here, he is yet to show what those really are.
Remember when we played to his strengths and he scored 5 in 5?
Thosr goals were from crosses. Have we stopped doing that?
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I'd forget about Hogan and Kodjia (other than sub appearances) Grabban has to be our first choice forward.
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I'd forget about Hogan and Kodjia (other than sub appearances) Grabban has to be our first choice forward.
Or we could pick between Grabban and Kodjia based on who we're playing and how we want to approach the game, thus taking advantage of having 2 strikers who are exceptional at this level. If we did that right across the midfield and frontline we'd be challenging with Wolves for top rather than looking like we're going to have to settle for 4th.
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Hogan is good at what he does but it’s too limited - and limiting
For what we paid he’s still been a disappointment for me
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People go on about not playing to Hogan's strengths, but since he's been here, he is yet to show what those really are.
Remember when we played to his strengths and he scored 5 in 5?
Trouble is it was probably about 5 in 10 touches.
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Hogan is not a bad player but it just hasn't worked for him at Villa. Grabban, in my view is just a better player. Fits in with our style better and is a better finisher.
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I've said it before but I genuinely think Hogan is a poor player but has good enough instincts in front of goal to be a good goalscorer so long as teams accept that he brings nothing else. I think Monty said before that he's basically Darren Bent and I agree except I'd also add with the top end pace to frighten teams.
Grabban is a far better player (but I suspect he may be a bit of a 'bully' who looks world class against average defenders but struggles against a decent defence, the Cardiff game backs that up a bit and it explains why he struggled in the premier league) and if we don't go up I think he'd be a great signing but if we're promoted I'm just not sure that a 30 year old who's struggled for games and goals at 2 premier league clubs over 3 seasons is the sort of signing to show that we're back and we mean business.
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Just in case I haven't made my position and views clear, I think Hogan is shit. No really, I do. He came on today, stood between their two central defenders for 25 minutes, then when he did get a chance on a plate, he skied it over the bar. Absolute rubbish.
Hogan showed at Brentford he is a good striker at this level.
It's been really clear since his early games he just dosen't suit our style. It's alright saying we should change our style of play to get more out of Hogan but Grabban dosen't seem to have an issue scoring goals from the way we play.
If we can sell hogan for 5m I'd do it and use that to get Grabban on a full time basis.
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I'd forget about Hogan and Kodjia (other than sub appearances) Grabban has to be our first choice forward.
I'd look to play both, they were great second half v Cardiff pushing and pulling their back 4 all over the place with their runs.
Let's be honest aside from the odd game Adomah hasn't been great at all since the play offs so don't think he should be a nailed on starter when the play offs begin.
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When Hogan came on Grabban played on the left and to me that's where he's best suited, what impresses me is his ability to hold the ball and the way he can pick out a good pass.
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Adomah needed and deserved a rest - like Snoddy
I thought he looked energised when he came on v Leeds but agree we should play the man in form
If that means Grabban left and hogan up top at home then I’d be ok
I wouldn’t play hogan away from home though. Apart from Forest away I can’t think of a single away league game where he’s played well. And it’s so limiting if you’re gonna play the shape we’re playing.
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If you play Hogan at all, home or away, you're effectively playing with 10 men. If he's not scoring, which let's be honest is the vast majority of the time, he isn't contributing anything else. Grabban, Kodjia and even Davis add a lot more to the team.
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If you play Hogan at all, home or away, you're effectively playing with 10 men. If he's not scoring, which let's be honest is the vast majority of the time, he isn't contributing anything else. Grabban, Kodjia and even Davis add a lot more to the team.
Has he shagged your missus?! Or ran over your cat?!
I reckon you've got a post in slagging Hogan off on pretty much every thread on this site...
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Risso used to be married to Cheetrah until Hogan shagged her and run her over at the same time in some awful sex game gone wrong.
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Risso used to be married to Cheetrah until Hogan shagged her and run her over at the same time in some awful sex game gone wrong.
Ah, ok. Touchy subject then...
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If you play Hogan at all, home or away, you're effectively playing with 10 men. If he's not scoring, which let's be honest is the vast majority of the time, he isn't contributing anything else. Grabban, Kodjia and even Davis add a lot more to the team.
Has he shagged your missus?! Or ran over your cat?!
I reckon you've got a post in slagging Hogan off on pretty much every thread on this site...
It's a pretty accurate summation though unfortunately.
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If you play Hogan at all, home or away, you're effectively playing with 10 men. If he's not scoring, which let's be honest is the vast majority of the time, he isn't contributing anything else. Grabban, Kodjia and even Davis add a lot more to the team.
Has he shagged your missus?! Or ran over your cat?!
I reckon you've got a post in slagging Hogan off on pretty much every thread on this site...
It's a pretty accurate summation though unfortunately.
Sadly, I have to agree. It's got to the stage where I'm laughing at him. Such poor control, his one on one the other day, his simple opportunities wasted. At the same time there's something I admire about him, it's just not for us right now. As much as i want him to score and get some confidence, the poor lad must be thinking he'll never score again. Maybe that's why I admire him, he keeps trying.
Put him down to come off the bench in the final and score the winner. Why not? It's been that kind of season.
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If you play Hogan at all, home or away, you're effectively playing with 10 men. If he's not scoring, which let's be honest is the vast majority of the time, he isn't contributing anything else. Grabban, Kodjia and even Davis add a lot more to the team.
Has he shagged your missus?! Or ran over your cat?!
I reckon you've got a post in slagging Hogan off on pretty much every thread on this site...
He used to bully Barney too but has backed-off a bit lately ;)
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In 49 league games for us, 27 starts and 22 as sub, he's scored 7 goals. That's crap for any striker, never mind one that cost as much as he did. He tries and he runs but hasn't offered us much else. I think he's better than what we've seen but there's little doubt he's been a poor signing and a waste of money so far.
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Stellar record in the cup though, right? :-X
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If we played Wigan reserves every week he'd outscore Messi.
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People go on about not playing to Hogan's strengths, but since he's been here, he is yet to show what those really are.
Remember when we played to his strengths and he scored 5 in 5?
Which are? His movement is decent in the box only. Our midfield isn't so good that we can afford to have a goal hanger up top. I don't think Hogan fits our style of play at all, classic poorly scouted signing. Not a bad sub to have as does tend to get chances.
Grabban played great up top v Wolves but was bullied in the same position v Cardiff. I'd nearly start Kodjia v Derby if fit. Just to get some game time into him. Changed game when he came in against Cardiff.
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If you play Hogan at all, home or away, you're effectively playing with 10 men. If he's not scoring, which let's be honest is the vast majority of the time, he isn't contributing anything else. Grabban, Kodjia and even Davis add a lot more to the team.
Has he shagged your missus?! Or ran over your cat?!
I wouldn't trust him to hit the target in either situation!
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Funny I thought Grabban actually played o.k v Cardiff and impacted on the game far more than Hogan would've done.
That throughball for Hourihane's chance was delicious.
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Grabban looked better when he went left v Cardiff
I’d definitely sell Hogan if we could get anywhere near double digits for him - but I doubt we could
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If you play Hogan at all, home or away, you're effectively playing with 10 men. If he's not scoring, which let's be honest is the vast majority of the time, he isn't contributing anything else. Grabban, Kodjia and even Davis add a lot more to the team.
Has he shagged your missus?! Or ran over your cat?!
I reckon you've got a post in slagging Hogan off on pretty much every thread on this site...
He used to bully Barney too but has backed-off a bit lately ;)
He was very good against Ipswich, and other games. Much improved.
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I’d definitely sell Hogan if we could get anywhere near double digits for him - but I doubt we could
I'd imagine he'd command a price of below £4m now.
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Yep, anywhere near double digits would mean nearly getting our money back on him and he's only regressed in the last 15 months with us. His dodgy injury record may also put teams off.
Then again, West Ham, who were after Hogan the same time as us, splurged about the same amount of money on Hugill from Preston who may have been impressive but wasn't overly prolific.
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Joint top scorer in the league now, would defintely sign in the summer no matter what league we are in. Don't think we'd be in the play offs if he was signed in the summer.
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Right Lewis 8 more goals this season please, preferably all in the play offs.
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Nice to see him going mad when he scored. Could so easily had a hatrick. Nice flick for the header that hit the bar in the first half, shame he couldn't guide it down. Really good player. Him and Kodjia in the same side would be a real handful.
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Played well, good touch and not too outmuscled by bigger players. First choice every game for me. Shame he missed with the first-half clear header.
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Looks like he's potentially off to Forest: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44727936
Championship side Nottingham Forest have had a £6m bid accepted for AFC Bournemouth striker Lewis Grabban.
The 30-year-old scored 20 goals during loan spells with Sunderland and Aston Villa in the second tier last season.
Grabban has netted 36 times in 115 games in two spells with the Cherries, and has also attracted interest from Birmingham, Leeds and Middlesbrough.
But since rejoining Bournemouth from Norwich City in January 2016, Grabban has played for them just 22 times.
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I quite liked him - he reminded me of Collymore - but like Stan he flattered to deceive - would have been a reasonable signing but not at £6m
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I quite liked him - he reminded me of Collymore - but like Stan he flattered to deceive - would have been a reasonable signing but not at £6m
I thought it was a lot of money for him. His spells with us and Sunderland really did work out well for Bournemouth.