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Title: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 31, 2018, 04:44:13 PM
Sky reporting we’ve agreed a deal to take him until the end of the season
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 31, 2018, 04:46:55 PM

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Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on January 31, 2018, 05:05:13 PM
Allow me..

Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: garyshawsknee on January 31, 2018, 05:08:11 PM
I know eff all about him, but we did need cover there, seems a smart no risk move.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 31, 2018, 05:10:34 PM
Davis has faded away. RHM is an injury waiting to happen so can’t be trusted. Gabby is the same and simply put past it. RM appears to be a lost cause and at best unreliable.

Grabban does things none of our currently healthy strikers do. Having him as an option off the bench and ultimately competing with Hogan for the starting spot makes us a lot deeper and stronger.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: frank black on January 31, 2018, 05:12:03 PM
I would guess we will have agreed to buy him at the end, they were keen to sell
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 31, 2018, 05:14:08 PM
Allow me..



Aside from the obvious positives of the goals, count the number of kits he wears. As talented as he is you have to wonder why he’s bounced around so much?
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: PaulWinch again on January 31, 2018, 05:19:42 PM
We need extra cover up front so makes sense.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on January 31, 2018, 05:20:57 PM
It makes a hell of a lot of sense. Smart move if it happens.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: atomicjam on January 31, 2018, 05:25:48 PM
It always means he will not be playing for Cardiff
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: mrfuse on January 31, 2018, 05:27:16 PM
I would guess we will have agreed to buy him at the end, they were keen to sell

Not sure about that as I don't think he is premier league quality.

Thinking positively.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: Risso on January 31, 2018, 05:28:51 PM
Seems a bit odd.  He's been mostly shit for his career, but then has done well at Sunderland, so much so that he gets recalled to his home club, only for them to then loan him out again a few weeks later?
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: frank black on January 31, 2018, 05:30:21 PM
Seems a bit odd.  He's been mostly shit for his career, but then has done well at Sunderland, so much so that he gets recalled to his home club, only for them to then loan him out again a few weeks later?

By all accounts he wasn’t keen on staying at Sunderland and he returned by mutual consent.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: l_mckay on January 31, 2018, 05:31:13 PM
Decent signing,we look a bit short upfront if hogan gets another injury. Hopefully he can bag 8-10 goals between now and the end of the season.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: manic-road on January 31, 2018, 05:34:20 PM
Needed a back up forward. Can't say much more than that.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: darren woolley on January 31, 2018, 05:34:43 PM
I don't mind us signing him because if any of our strikers get injured in the run in we are in trouble plus it can only benefit the team to have another striker ready to compete for a place in the first team.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: cdbearsfan on January 31, 2018, 05:35:01 PM
We needed a striker, by the sound of it we've got one. Well done to all concerned and welcome Lewis.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on January 31, 2018, 05:35:53 PM
Seems a bit odd.  He's been mostly shit for his career, but then has done well at Sunderland, so much so that he gets recalled to his home club, only for them to then loan him out again a few weeks later?

It was him that asked to leave Sunderland.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: Ads on January 31, 2018, 05:38:25 PM
I hope his attitude isn't a problem. I guess it's only an assumption that he's got an attitude problem.

Did well in a wretched Sunderland side. I am glad we have strengthened but I'm a little in the dark as to his qualities.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: West Derby Villan on January 31, 2018, 05:44:29 PM
Good signing we need options and cover.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 31, 2018, 05:47:17 PM
I hope his attitude isn't a problem. I guess it's only an assumption that he's got an attitude problem.

Did well in a wretched Sunderland side. I am glad we have strengthened but I'm a little in the dark as to his qualities.

That’s what I’m hoping and was alluding to in my comment about how many clubs he’s been at. Be it permanently or on loan. That said we have lots of very strong personalities and leaders at the club, and he’s coming in to a very positive environment.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on January 31, 2018, 05:47:50 PM
I hope his attitude isn't a problem. I guess it's only an assumption that he's got an attitude problem.

He'd get ripped a new one within seconds if he has an attitude problem. Can you see the likes of Terry, Chester, Hutton, Hourihane, Jedi, Whelan etc..standing for it? Me neither.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: JUAN PABLO on January 31, 2018, 05:58:01 PM
Seems a bit odd.  He's been mostly shit for his career, but then has done well at Sunderland, so much so that he gets recalled to his home club, only for them to then loan him out again a few weeks later?

By all accounts he wasn’t keen on staying at Sunderland and he returned by mutual consent.

cant blame him


hes never been that prolific  yet in a shit sunderland team hes been banging the goals in this season

and at least he aint Grant fecking Holt  whos idea was that ?
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: LeeB on January 31, 2018, 06:07:56 PM
We could do worse, good move.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: clash city rocker on January 31, 2018, 06:12:34 PM
If he scores 20 goals between now and the end of the season for us I will buy a shirt with his name on the back.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: Meanwood Villa on January 31, 2018, 06:15:29 PM
Needed a striker as cover so pleased with this.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: Legion on January 31, 2018, 06:16:38 PM
According to Sky sources...
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: cheltenhamlion on January 31, 2018, 06:18:32 PM
It is happening.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: KevinGage on January 31, 2018, 06:20:28 PM
Grabban and hold tight, etc.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: IFWaters on January 31, 2018, 06:48:45 PM
im not ecstatic

its logical, but hardly exciting

it means fatty wont be near the team bus which is good.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: Dave on January 31, 2018, 06:49:05 PM
No complaints here. No point signing somebody permanently who won't be good enough in the Premier League. Which he isn't, so it'll probably be a short yet happy partnership.

If we shit the bed and he's been good, then it's a pretty sensible signing to then throw a few million at for next season (not that this scenario is particularly likely)

If we shit the bed and he's been rubbish, then he goes and we plan properly next summer.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: footyskillz on January 31, 2018, 07:04:33 PM
After Ulloa this was one of the decent moves to make. Hugil commanded a fee so this will do for now. Will provide necessary experience and goal threat option. Looking at other clubs Derby wolves they have plenty striking intent and prefer him to cameron jerome.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: curiousorange on January 31, 2018, 07:05:52 PM
We know what our first team is. If Grabban wants to seize a chance he'll have to be good. Absolute no-brainer to get him in on loan.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: Mister E on January 31, 2018, 07:10:05 PM
I remember his game against us earlier in the season: he ran the channels well and made space (his team mates didn’t do a very good job of finding him, however), and seemed to work hard. Might work well with Hogan.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: Dave P on January 31, 2018, 07:22:55 PM
This could work well for us. Watching the game yesterday, Davis is great to bring on against a tiring defence. Hogan and Grabban could be the one to tire them out.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: SoccerHQ on January 31, 2018, 07:31:56 PM
I know eff all about him, but we did need cover there, seems a smart no risk move.

Didn't he score v us this season?!

He'll do fine for us at this level. Scored decent amounts for Bournemouth, Norwich and a terrible Sunderland team so happy we've got this one done.

Our squad is looking very strong now. I'm struggling to see an area where we lack depth.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: andyh on January 31, 2018, 07:34:24 PM
If he scores 20 goals between now and the end of the season for us I will buy a shirt with his name on the back.
Nice one.....serious laugh out loud moment 👏
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: john e on January 31, 2018, 07:42:25 PM
told my lad we signed Grabban

he said he's crap

He's only 9 but he's not impressed

Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: SoccerHQ on January 31, 2018, 07:45:01 PM
Scored 22 goals in championship for Bournemouth in 13/14.

12 for Norwich the following season.

1 in the premier league.

A penalty at Villa Park for Reading last season.

12 goals for Sunderland in half a season which is really saying something with what they have up there.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: KevinGage on January 31, 2018, 07:47:56 PM
When Bournemouth went up a few years ago they had about 15 forwards to call upon.

The quality in this league ain't all that, but you need to be thinking about rotating forwards and getting goals from all parts of the side.

The days of playing a regular CF partnership through the good times and bad are gone.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: sickbeggar on January 31, 2018, 07:52:02 PM
'spose beggars can't be choosers. Decent competition i guess for 4 months, but what we're gonna do in the summer if we go up is anyone's guess. Take a Man City type spend to get this squad anything other than relegation favourites
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: TonyD on January 31, 2018, 07:55:51 PM
I hope he doesn’t hinder the progress of Davis.   
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: Percy McCarthy on January 31, 2018, 07:56:58 PM
Allow me..



‘Kinell there are some quality finishes on there.

I think I was first to suggest him wasn’t I? It was a while ago.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: SoccerHQ on January 31, 2018, 08:04:17 PM
'spose beggars can't be choosers. Decent competition i guess for 4 months, but what we're gonna do in the summer if we go up is anyone's guess. Take a Man City type spend to get this squad anything other than relegation favourites

I'm sure Kodjia could score a few in the prem.

Him, one of Davis/Hogan and a world class striker from somewhere and that should be enough.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: john e on January 31, 2018, 08:06:05 PM
'spose beggars can't be choosers. Decent competition i guess for 4 months, but what we're gonna do in the summer if we go up is anyone's guess. Take a Man City type spend to get this squad anything other than relegation favourites

I'm sure Kodjia could score a few in the prem.

Him, one of Davis/Hogan and a world class striker from somewhere and that should be enough.

the world class striker from somewhere is probably the tricky bit
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: sickbeggar on January 31, 2018, 08:10:22 PM
'spose beggars can't be choosers. Decent competition i guess for 4 months, but what we're gonna do in the summer if we go up is anyone's guess. Take a Man City type spend to get this squad anything other than relegation favourites

I'm sure Kodjia could score a few in the prem.

Him, one of Davis/Hogan and a world class striker from somewhere and that should be enough.

heh,  kodjia is one of the few really and even him i'm not sure of getting more than about 10-15.  It's the whole team really.  3 bloody loan players in the 1st team already, and a load of players who don't look good enough to me. Anyway not really the thread for this. Welcome Lewis
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: brontebilly on January 31, 2018, 08:19:17 PM
Davis has faded away. RHM is an injury waiting to happen so can’t be trusted. Gabby is the same and simply put past it. RM appears to be a lost cause and at best unreliable.

Grabban does things none of our currently healthy strikers do. Having him as an option off the bench and ultimately competing with Hogan for the starting spot makes us a lot deeper and stronger.

Grabban seems to play off the front man so more of a replacement for Flabby and Big Mac than Davis or Hogan.

Not sure about this one to be honest, from Ulloa to Grabban, seems a bit random.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: sickbeggar on January 31, 2018, 08:22:10 PM
Seems to have a fair bit of pace and (not really having that much of a go at Bruce), if you play on the break he's gonna suit your play,
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: MONCABA on January 31, 2018, 08:33:25 PM
Seems Wolves and Cardiff are sniffing around.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: dave shelley on January 31, 2018, 08:36:04 PM
According to Percy in the Telegraph, he's having a medical at BMH.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: PaulWinch again on January 31, 2018, 08:38:20 PM
No complaints here. No point signing somebody permanently who won't be good enough in the Premier League. Which he isn't, so it'll probably be a short yet happy partnership.

If we shit the bed and he's been good, then it's a pretty sensible signing to then throw a few million at for next season (not that this scenario is particularly likely)

If we shit the bed and he's been rubbish, then he goes and we plan properly next summer.

Yeah I’d agree.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: SoccerHQ on January 31, 2018, 09:00:10 PM
5 live guy just said the deal has gone through.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: SoccerHQ on January 31, 2018, 09:00:47 PM
Seems Wolves and Cardiff are sniffing around.

Cardiff are signing Gary Madine from Bolton.

Wolves were actually in for Benik Afobe also from Bournemouth.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: paulcomben on January 31, 2018, 09:18:38 PM
At Villa Park in Chris Coleman’s first game, Grabban absolutely worked his socks off. And was clearly frustrated that his teammates could not give him the ball. Having thought nothing about him previously, I was very impressed. Given all of the restrictions, this is a very smart deal.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on January 31, 2018, 09:19:33 PM
03
Grabban a Villain

Ian Dennis
Radio 5 live senior football reporter
Aston Villa have completed the loan signing of Lewis Grabban from Bournemouth until the end of the season. Cardiff City were also interested.

Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: PaulWinch again on January 31, 2018, 09:22:16 PM
Good deal help us get promoted Lewis.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: olaftab on January 31, 2018, 09:24:09 PM
And not there to help Cardiff. Could be win win as they say in corporate management speak.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: Steve67 on January 31, 2018, 09:24:46 PM
Good signing. Might be the difference.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: dave shelley on January 31, 2018, 09:25:47 PM
Welcome Lewis.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on January 31, 2018, 09:28:23 PM
And not there to help Cardiff. Could be win win as they say in corporate management speak.

Except that Cardiff have just signed Madine from Bolton with an equally good scoring record this season.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: Ads on January 31, 2018, 09:29:34 PM
He's a big lump.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: olaftab on January 31, 2018, 09:31:07 PM
And not there to help Cardiff. Could be win win as they say in corporate management speak.

Except that Cardiff have just signed Madine from Bolton with an equally good scoring record this season.
Who?
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: saunders_heroes on January 31, 2018, 09:34:35 PM
Has he been officially announced yet? I can’t see it.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: Sexual Ealing on January 31, 2018, 09:35:49 PM
I won't believe it until he's OTOW,BQAHSTAVIA'M'FC.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: brian green on January 31, 2018, 09:43:58 PM
My Enigma machine calls that the Craig Gardner affirmation "I have been a........* fan since my........* took me to.........* in my pram.

*complete appropriately.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: cheltenhamlion on January 31, 2018, 09:49:33 PM
It is done. Stop crapping your undies.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on January 31, 2018, 09:51:43 PM
It’s on the sky ticker tape now.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: ozzjim on January 31, 2018, 09:52:29 PM
And you were correct CL.

No brainer once he was still available going into today. Good signing, much needed and should give us the squad power to stay with Derby to the finish now.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: cheltenhamlion on January 31, 2018, 09:55:58 PM
He is quick. That helps.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: Clampy on January 31, 2018, 10:04:12 PM
It's official now and all that. Welcome Lewis.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: Ads on January 31, 2018, 10:04:36 PM
Confirmed via an amusing Twitter video.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: saunders_heroes on January 31, 2018, 10:05:31 PM
Confirmed via an amusing Twitter video.

It is pretty good!
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: AsTallAsLions on January 31, 2018, 10:07:06 PM
https://www.afcb.co.uk/news/club-news/grabban-moves-on-loan-to-aston-villa also this, where AFCB are at pains to point out how well we're doing
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 31, 2018, 10:07:38 PM
Wyness announces Grabban on Twitter (https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/958822265675755523/video/1)
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: Villafirst on January 31, 2018, 10:07:58 PM
On the official site now....welcome Lewis!
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 31, 2018, 10:08:31 PM
Confirmed via an amusing Twitter video.

Yep just posted the link. It’s funny
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on January 31, 2018, 10:09:57 PM
Must say our PR department have upped their game this year.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: leylandalbion on January 31, 2018, 10:15:50 PM
So has the team  :D
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: FanNOTCustomer on January 31, 2018, 10:20:25 PM
We learned a lot from Hogan's youtube video - he basically scored loads via through balls.

This guy seem to be just a tap-in merchant and a lot of the goals are where he beat (?) the offside trap that maybe down to him or the crap defending.

So he's not a something out of nothing type like Kodija, but obviously we were never likely to land a striker of that calibre.

He is simply a guy in the box to score tap-ins or take advantage of bad defending.

As said earlier in thread, nothing special but a logical and 'on-par' signing for us should Hogan get injured, may even be better replacement.

Most certainly enhances our promotion hopes.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: Sexual Ealing on January 31, 2018, 10:22:04 PM
And then I go and spoil it all by saying something stupid like...

keith wyness‏Verified account

@retsub12
If peter kay did transfer announcements.......,,,,,
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: Damo70 on January 31, 2018, 10:28:12 PM
12 goals in 19 games (and he didn't start all those games) in that Sunderland team is impressive. We would have struggled to have got anyone else who is in that type of goalscoring form this season at this level.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: Fred Crump on January 31, 2018, 10:29:23 PM
We learned a lot from Hogan's youtube video - he basically scored loads via through balls.

This guy seem to be just a tap-in merchant and a lot of the goals are where he beat (?) the offside trap that maybe down to him or the crap defending.

So he's not a something out of nothing type like Kodija, but obviously we were never likely to land a striker of that calibre.

He is simply a guy in the box to score tap-ins or take advantage of bad defending.

As said earlier in thread, nothing special but a logical and 'on-par' signing for us should Hogan get injured, may even be better replacement.

Most certainly enhances our promotion hopes.

At least 3 or 4 30 yard plus tap ins from what I saw.....
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: Louzie0 on January 31, 2018, 10:30:57 PM
They’ve just beaten Chelsea without him (Bournemouth).

But if his face didn’t fit, and it does here, and he’s good, Welcome Lewis!
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: ozzjim on January 31, 2018, 10:39:32 PM
Very funny video. Clearly Keith has an issue with Alan Nixon at the Sun with the tweet on there.

The resulting twitter spat is also amusing, with Keith telling him that even a blind chicken gets some corn
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: Ads on January 31, 2018, 10:40:48 PM
Fuck the Sun.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: brentastonb6 on January 31, 2018, 10:45:13 PM
If he scores 20 goals between now and the end of the season for us I will buy a shirt with his name on the back.
If he does I will buy you the shirt !
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: Louzie0 on January 31, 2018, 10:49:22 PM
Must say our PR department have upped their game this year.

Yes, I think there’s somebody there with a bit of imagination and a lovely sense of humour.

Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: eamonn on January 31, 2018, 11:22:08 PM
He's 30? Send him back when we get promoted. I wonder what the loan fee is, a million and two more if we get promoted?
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: cdward on January 31, 2018, 11:24:28 PM
Welcome addition. He knows the championship, 12 goals in 19 games with Sunderland. Back up for the run in.
Good work Villa.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Canadian Villa on February 01, 2018, 12:27:23 AM
We learned a lot from Hogan's youtube video - he basically scored loads via through balls.

This guy seem to be just a tap-in merchant and a lot of the goals are where he beat (?) the offside trap that maybe down to him or the crap defending.

So he's not a something out of nothing type like Kodija, but obviously we were never likely to land a striker of that calibre.

He is simply a guy in the box to score tap-ins or take advantage of bad defending.

As said earlier in thread, nothing special but a logical and 'on-par' signing for us should Hogan get injured, may even be better replacement.

Most certainly enhances our promotion hopes.

Is that all? Just a fella that makes defenders nervous with his runs and pulls them out of position. Plus being hungry in the box. What are you looking for in a striker?
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: Percy McCarthy on February 01, 2018, 12:53:55 AM
We learned a lot from Hogan's youtube video - he basically scored loads via through balls.

This guy seem to be just a tap-in merchant and a lot of the goals are where he beat (?) the offside trap that maybe down to him or the crap defending.

So he's not a something out of nothing type like Kodija, but obviously we were never likely to land a striker of that calibre.

He is simply a guy in the box to score tap-ins or take advantage of bad defending.

As said earlier in thread, nothing special but a logical and 'on-par' signing for us should Hogan get injured, may even be better replacement.

Most certainly enhances our promotion hopes.

At least 3 or 4 30 yard plus tap ins from what I saw.....

Dougal, only some of the goals were tap-ins. Some of them were just far away.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: cheltenhamlion on February 01, 2018, 08:26:44 AM
We learned a lot from Hogan's youtube video - he basically scored loads via through balls.

This guy seem to be just a tap-in merchant and a lot of the goals are where he beat (?) the offside trap that maybe down to him or the crap defending.

So he's not a something out of nothing type like Kodija, but obviously we were never likely to land a striker of that calibre.

He is simply a guy in the box to score tap-ins or take advantage of bad defending.

As said earlier in thread, nothing special but a logical and 'on-par' signing for us should Hogan get injured, may even be better replacement.

Most certainly enhances our promotion hopes.

Is that all? Just a fella that makes defenders nervous with his runs and pulls them out of position. Plus being hungry in the box. What are you looking for in a striker?

He is still pining after Stern John.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: auntiesledd on February 01, 2018, 10:16:38 AM
They’ve just beaten Chelsea without him (Bournemouth).

But if his face didn’t fit, and it does here, and he’s good, Welcome Lewis!
#

Given Grabban's MO over the past few years, it appears to be more about others not fitting in with what he & his agent wants at any given time. He's certainly got talent; an eye for goal; and fits our need for another experienced striker: but I do question his attitude & whether or not he will fit the bill. Hopefully he'll take the latest opportunity he's been given & thrive playing for a big club challenging for promotion. Fingers crossed eh?
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: LeeB on February 01, 2018, 10:24:02 AM
They’ve just beaten Chelsea without him (Bournemouth).

But if his face didn’t fit, and it does here, and he’s good, Welcome Lewis!
#

Given Grabban's MO over the past few years, it appears to be more about others not fitting in with what he & his agent wants at any given time. He's certainly got talent; an eye for goal; and fits our need for another experienced striker: but I do question his attitude & whether or not he will fit the bill. Hopefully he'll take the latest opportunity he's been given & thrive playing for a big club challenging for promotion. Fingers crossed eh?

He can't get a new deal, or angle for a move as he's only here six months anyway, so there's no reason for any issues. Plus I'd imagine if he did play up he would be dispatched forthwith with a size 10 up his harris.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: GarTomas on February 01, 2018, 10:24:56 AM
Loan seems a no brainier.
If his attitude isn’t up to scratch we don’t involve him.

Could always have him lodge with McCormack and they could get stuck behind the gates together.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: PeterWithe on February 01, 2018, 10:55:37 AM
I think this is a very astute deal. He looked very good against us earlier in the season, worked hard, held the ball up and ran the channels well.

On my limited views of him, well just that one game really, he looks like he has the potential to be a good mix of the best bits of the two players he will be competing against. He's more experienced and scores more than Davis, but has similar physical presence and work rate and yet he has the pace and goal threat of Hogan but gets involved in the build up play more often.

And if he plays up we can fuck him off back to Bournemouth quick sharp.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on February 01, 2018, 10:57:56 AM
Didn't he score against us for Reading last season as well?
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Diablo on February 01, 2018, 10:59:15 AM
Article in the Mail by a journalist who covers Bournemouth who seems to think he needs to play alongside a big player to get the best out of him goals wise. Not sure if that was the case at Sunderland? Anyone know if they played 2 up front?
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: darren woolley on February 01, 2018, 11:25:26 AM
Welcome to Aston Villa Lewis looking forward to seeing him play.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Diablo on February 01, 2018, 11:31:22 AM
Fuck the Sun.
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Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: David_Nab on February 01, 2018, 12:05:46 PM
Looked at few Sunderland results and seems they played him up front alone in a 4141 formation so wasn't playing off another striker
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: SoccerHQ on February 01, 2018, 12:11:18 PM
Didn't he score against us for Reading last season as well?

Clearly no one was actually at these games and we were all on here endlessly arguing about Steve Bruce (wink).
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Comrade Blitz on February 01, 2018, 12:11:37 PM
Everything Counts by Depeche Mode for his song? (slight modification required):

The Grabben hands
Grabben all they can
All for themselves After all

The Grabben hands
Grabben all they can....



Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: SoccerHQ on February 01, 2018, 12:12:18 PM
Article in the Mail by a journalist who covers Bournemouth who seems to think he needs to play alongside a big player to get the best out of him goals wise. Not sure if that was the case at Sunderland? Anyone know if they played 2 up front?

They started the season playing him and James Vaughan together and then rotated between them.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Diablo on February 01, 2018, 12:16:33 PM
Article in the Mail by a journalist who covers Bournemouth who seems to think he needs to play alongside a big player to get the best out of him goals wise. Not sure if that was the case at Sunderland? Anyone know if they played 2 up front?

They started the season playing him and James Vaughan together and then rotated between them.
Cheers SoccerHQ. That's reassuring to know.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on February 01, 2018, 12:39:43 PM
Article in the Mail by a journalist who covers Bournemouth who seems to think he needs to play alongside a big player to get the best out of him goals wise. Not sure if that was the case at Sunderland? Anyone know if they played 2 up front?

Yes he played up front with Niall Quinn.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Diablo on February 01, 2018, 01:00:18 PM
Article in the Mail by a journalist who covers Bournemouth who seems to think he needs to play alongside a big player to get the best out of him goals wise. Not sure if that was the case at Sunderland? Anyone know if they played 2 up front?

Yes he played up front with Niall Quinn.
Well no wonder he scored loads. My Gran would be banging them in left right and centre with Quinn as a striking partner in this division ;-) Did you ever see that match he scored and then went in goal against Derby? Classic.
And on the subject I didn't know he knocked Steve McMahon out in a fight on a drunken night out and that's where his Disco Pants song came from
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: chrisw1 on February 01, 2018, 01:04:21 PM
He's 30? Send him back when we get promoted. I wonder what the loan fee is, a million and two more if we get promoted?
I would have thought they are fairly happy to get his wages covered.  I wouldn't imagine any fee would have been significant given our FFP position.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: mamuu on February 01, 2018, 01:40:15 PM
At least 3 or 4 30 yard plus tap ins from what I saw.....
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Dougal, only some of the goals were tap-ins. Some of them were just far away.
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More of this kind of thing.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: LeeB on February 01, 2018, 01:46:04 PM
Article in the Mail by a journalist who covers Bournemouth who seems to think he needs to play alongside a big player to get the best out of him goals wise. Not sure if that was the case at Sunderland? Anyone know if they played 2 up front?

Yes he played up front with Niall Quinn.
Well no wonder he scored loads. My Gran would be banging them in left right and centre with Quinn as a striking partner in this division ;-) Did you ever see that match he scored and then went in goal against Derby? Classic.
And on the subject I didn't know he knocked Steve McMahon out in a fight on a drunken night out and that's where his Disco Pants song came from


I dunno, but I was at that match when he tripped over a worm to win a penalty against us the cheating bastard.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Clark W Griswold on February 01, 2018, 01:55:59 PM
Pleased to get him in, I think it gives us a little extra insurance and an option off the bench.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Diablo on February 01, 2018, 01:56:23 PM
Article in the Mail by a journalist who covers Bournemouth who seems to think he needs to play alongside a big player to get the best out of him goals wise. Not sure if that was the case at Sunderland? Anyone know if they played 2 up front?

Yes he played up front with Niall Quinn.
Well no wonder he scored loads. My Gran would be banging them in left right and centre with Quinn as a striking partner in this division ;-) Did you ever see that match he scored and then went in goal against Derby? Classic.
And on the subject I didn't know he knocked Steve McMahon out in a fight on a drunken night out and that's where his Disco Pants song came from


I dunno, but I was at that match when he tripped over a worm to win a penalty against us the cheating bastard.
I'm prepared to let that slide now that he knocked out Steve McMahon - joking aside I've warmed to him over the years as he seems like a decent bloke (saying that I can't remember the match - which one was it?) I do remember that City team throwing the match when we were going for the title against their neighbours when their fans even had banners at Villa Park wishing us luck. Good luck from the City of Manchester I think it read.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Brend'Watkins on February 01, 2018, 02:50:02 PM
Another player I know nothing about. In all honesty I hope he doesn't make a single appearance for us as it will mean the attack we have remain injury free and will be doing the business.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: supertom on February 01, 2018, 05:07:58 PM
Decent loan signing for me. He'll be useful. Hogan has hit a bit of form but Davis has faded and that's it so we needed one more really for the run in. It covers our bases. We're in good form. We're working hard, nicking results and we're also dominating some games here and there too which is nice. I'm quite happy with the two signings. I didn't think we needed too much (provided a bit more luck with injuries). If he scores a few goals which take us up, all the better. I don't think he's Prem quality but may be alright as a back up next season. He's got good physical attributes. If JK gets back full fit, he'll be the one who could potentially make the step up.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Nastylee on February 01, 2018, 05:10:54 PM
He's a stop gap and given that fact he has decent credentials at this level. Do I think he'll be in the squad in August? No, but he'll have hopefully served his purpose by then.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: olaftab on February 01, 2018, 07:04:52 PM
I hope he is not another Grant Holt.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: cheltenhamlion on February 01, 2018, 07:11:39 PM
I hope he is not another Grant Holt.

Check his Valentine's arrangements in case he has booked a candle lit meal for two at Greggs (I am not joking about that being a real thing either).
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 01, 2018, 07:13:15 PM
Why would he be anything like Holt? He’s scored 12 goals this season, in this division for one of the worst teams in the division. We’ll create way more chances for him when he plays and he brings another type of attacking dimension to what we have with Hogan or Davis.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban
Post by: cumbriavilla on February 02, 2018, 07:43:00 AM
Allow me..



Looks like he's played for everyone...

Does have an eye for goal and one of those players who can make a goal out of nothing.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: eamonn on February 02, 2018, 08:50:05 AM
Gregg's even do candle-lit meals?
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: cdbearsfan on February 02, 2018, 09:31:17 AM
You need the candle to warm up the cold sausage rolls that they sell.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 02, 2018, 03:56:24 PM
Our new number erm...45

(http://thumb.ibb.co/iovhG6/ED97_FCD6_3_D9_E_4_E41_B623_54112_B32_F57_C.jpg) (http://ibb.co/iovhG6)
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: AV82EC on February 02, 2018, 04:17:45 PM
Our new number erm...45

(http://thumb.ibb.co/iovhG6/ED97_FCD6_3_D9_E_4_E41_B623_54112_B32_F57_C.jpg) (http://ibb.co/iovhG6)

Why did I start immediately singing “stars on 45 keep on burning in my eyes”
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: paul_e on February 02, 2018, 04:26:05 PM
I just hope he hasn't picked it so he can do something wanky like adding a + in between.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 02, 2018, 04:29:17 PM
I just hope he hasn't picked it so he can do something wanky like adding a + in between.

Nobody does that...oh


(http://thumb.ibb.co/k5pRtm/12_BF1_B12_92_B1_462_B_90_E2_97_EA15_D53908.jpg) (http://ibb.co/k5pRtm)
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: paul_e on February 02, 2018, 04:32:32 PM
I just hope he hasn't picked it so he can do something wanky like adding a + in between.

Nobody does that...oh


(http://thumb.ibb.co/k5pRtm/12_BF1_B12_92_B1_462_B_90_E2_97_EA15_D53908.jpg) (http://ibb.co/k5pRtm)


That's exactly who I was thinking of when I saw it, it's probably just coincidence though.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: kieron on February 02, 2018, 05:38:50 PM
Wanky - what a superb word.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Smirker on February 26, 2018, 06:26:59 PM
Why did Sunderland allow him on loan?

This guy is a goalscorer. They are going down. I'm guessing I've missed something and he must have fell out with the manager, I don't know.

But what a bit of business it has been for us.

Should be three in three for him (penalty taker?) but who cares. He is doing the business.

Well done to the club on bringing him in.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: davidb on February 26, 2018, 06:37:03 PM
Why did Sunderland allow him on loan?

This guy is a goalscorer. They are going down. I'm guessing I've missed something and he must have fell out with the manager, I don't know.

But what a bit of business it has been for us.

Should be three in three for him (penalty taker?) but who cares. He is doing the business.

Well done to the club on bringing him in.
He wanted to leave I think so bournemouth recalled him
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: cheltenhamlion on February 26, 2018, 06:41:51 PM
I think it is more he has confused Grabban with being a Sunderland, rather than Bournemouth, player.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Smirker on February 26, 2018, 07:06:22 PM
Sorry.

Knew it didn't make any sense for Sunderland to loan him out.

I've been very silly here and should have checked.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: cheltenhamlion on February 26, 2018, 07:09:11 PM
Sorry.

Knew it didn't make any sense for Sunderland to loan him out.

I've been very silly here and should have checked.

No need to apologise. I clearly knew how you had the wrong end of that particular stick. It would have been like us loaning out Ayew in the January of the season we dropped.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: cdbearsfan on February 26, 2018, 07:10:54 PM
That's not a bad idea, will free up a bit more cash in wages if we loan Ayew out.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: LeeB on February 26, 2018, 07:37:50 PM
That's not a bad idea, will free up a bit more cash in wages if we loan Ayew out.

He's not been in bad form, we could get a decent amount for him. Again. If we kidnapped him. They'll never notice, they've got his brother back.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: cdbearsfan on February 26, 2018, 07:55:32 PM
We can loan them the Gardner brothers to make up for it.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: footyskillz on March 07, 2018, 02:14:31 PM
Grabban really enjoyed yesterday victory and great to see such a goal scorer doing what he does best.
Real strong addition and looking at record has best minutes to goal ratio amongst the top scorers and potential to be leading scorer in league. 

There is more than a good chance he could end up top scorer in championship. Albert giving a good go too!

Championship Top Scorers
Bobby Reid 17 Goals (5 Assists)

Matej Vydra 17 Goals (3 Assists)

Leon Clarke 15 Goals (3 Assists)

Lewis Grabban 15 Goals

Ryan Sessegnon 14 Goals (4 Assists)

Albert Adomah 13 Goals (4 Assists)
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: cdbearsfan on March 07, 2018, 04:31:29 PM
The most ridiculous one on that list is Sessegnon... he was born this century and he's not even a forward! Annoying that nobody bought him in January or I think Fulham would be out of the race.

Very pleased with Grabban. Be nice if we could have the top scorer in the division. When did that last happen?
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: paul_e on March 07, 2018, 04:37:45 PM
I think I might have to hold up a hand and admit I was wrong on this one.  I didn't particularly want him because his record before this season wasn't that great and he'd acted a bit of a tit a few times but right now he's doing the business and has definitely helped us cope with the injuries to Grealish and Adomah.  I'd still like to see RHM get some game time before the end of the season though, I think he can become a very good striker.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: JUAN PABLO on March 07, 2018, 04:52:42 PM
The most ridiculous one on that list is Sessegnon... he was born this century and he's not even a forward! Annoying that nobody bought him in January or I think Fulham would be out of the race.

Very pleased with Grabban. Be nice if we could have the top scorer in the division. When did that last happen?

When I first heard of Sessegnon at Fulham , I assumed it was the old baggies player and wasnt that bothered , he wont keep scoring those goals I thought , hes getting on a bit . took me a few mths to realise it was a 17 year old wonder kid .

If I was Southgate , I would throw him in the world cup squad
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: JUAN PABLO on March 07, 2018, 04:54:05 PM
I think I might have to hold up a hand and admit I was wrong on this one.  I didn't particularly want him because his record before this season wasn't that great and he'd acted a bit of a tit a few times but right now he's doing the business and has definitely helped us cope with the injuries to Grealish and Adomah.  I'd still like to see RHM get some game time before the end of the season though, I think he can become a very good striker.

It beats the Grant Holt signing .      He has done brilliant since he has been here , really like the look of him.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: IAmTheOneIanOlney on March 07, 2018, 05:14:41 PM
Be nice if we could have the top scorer in the division. When did that last happen?
Peter Withe in 1981, I think.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 07, 2018, 05:39:25 PM
Be nice if we could have the top scorer in the division. When did that last happen?
Peter Withe in 1981, I think.

Yep, finished joint top with Archibald iirc.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 07, 2018, 05:46:18 PM
Brian Little in 74/75 was the last Villa player to be the clear top scorer, albeit in division 2. And I can't count Grabban, although if he goes on a tear he could pass Albert's total for us and end up being top scorer for 2 clubs in one season as I can't see anyone at Sunderland matching his 12 for them.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: PaulWinch again on March 07, 2018, 07:22:55 PM
He’s doing well.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: taylorsworkrate on March 07, 2018, 07:29:17 PM
The most ridiculous one on that list is Sessegnon... he was born this century and he's not even a forward! Annoying that nobody bought him in January or I think Fulham would be out of the race.

Very pleased with Grabban. Be nice if we could have the top scorer in the division. When did that last happen?

Sessegnon must be an outside bet for a world cup place
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Chris Jameson on March 07, 2018, 07:39:23 PM
Sessegnon has a twin brother who is supposed to be quite a prospect, Fredericks the right back also looks a very good player.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on March 07, 2018, 07:46:17 PM
Yup, Ryan Fredericks looked the real deal against us. A proper footballer that will have no problem adapting in the PL (hopefully with us).
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Matt Collins on March 07, 2018, 08:11:55 PM
The most ridiculous one on that list is Sessegnon... he was born this century and he's not even a forward! Annoying that nobody bought him in January or I think Fulham would be out of the race.

Very pleased with Grabban. Be nice if we could have the top scorer in the division. When did that last happen?

When I first heard of Sessegnon at Fulham , I assumed it was the old baggies player and wasnt that bothered , he wont keep scoring those goals I thought , hes getting on a bit . took me a few mths to realise it was a 17 year old wonder kid .

If I was Southgate , I would throw him in the world cup squad

I wouldn’t. Great prospect but he was kept pretty quite by Tuanzebe
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: cdbearsfan on March 07, 2018, 08:56:28 PM
If I was Southgate, I'd call him up to the World Cup squad now and withdraw him from club matches until it starts.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: PeterWithe on March 07, 2018, 10:41:19 PM
Who does Bobby Reid play for? shows my interest in the other clubs that I’ve ever heard of the divisions top scorer.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on March 07, 2018, 10:45:55 PM
The most ridiculous one on that list is Sessegnon... he was born this century and he's not even a forward! Annoying that nobody bought him in January or I think Fulham would be out of the race.

Very pleased with Grabban. Be nice if we could have the top scorer in the division. When did that last happen?

When I first heard of Sessegnon at Fulham , I assumed it was the old baggies player and wasnt that bothered , he wont keep scoring those goals I thought , hes getting on a bit . took me a few mths to realise it was a 17 year old wonder kid .

If I was Southgate , I would throw him in the world cup squad


I think he’s related to the former Baggies player, his nephew maybe.

And Bobby Reid plays for Bristol City.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 07, 2018, 11:51:31 PM
Booby plays for Bristols.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Ads on March 08, 2018, 06:35:04 AM
Booby plays for Bristols.

Booby Reid rest in peace x
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: SoccerHQ on March 08, 2018, 11:24:47 AM
Anyone know how much he'd cost for a permanent signing?

Surely not as much as Hogan/McCormack? If the worst happens and we stay down, he's our starting striker next season.

Re-assess if we go up of course.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: chrisw1 on March 08, 2018, 01:23:47 PM
There's obviously a character issue there.  Doesn't get on with Bournemouth, didn't want to play for Sunderland etc.  I've been pleased with him and he has done well, but I'd be cautious about signing someone like him on a permanent deal.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Risso on March 09, 2018, 05:44:06 PM
There's obviously a character issue there.  Doesn't get on with Bournemouth, didn't want to play for Sunderland etc.  I've been pleased with him and he has done well, but I'd be cautious about signing someone like him on a permanent deal.

That's a fair point, but hopefully it might just be a case of right cub, right time.  In any case, if he scores the goals that help get us up, that'll do to start with.  We can worry about the rest in the summer.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Dave Cooper please on March 09, 2018, 10:08:41 PM

That's a fair point, but hopefully it might just be a case of right cub, right time.  In any case, if he scores the goals that help get us up, that'll do to start with.  We can worry about the rest in the summer.

I'll bear with you on that one.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: adrenachrome on March 10, 2018, 02:09:28 AM
There's obviously a character issue there.  Doesn't get on with Bournemouth, didn't want to play for Sunderland etc.  I've been pleased with him and he has done well, but I'd be cautious about signing someone like him on a permanent deal.

I agree. The world and its uncle knows he is a very talented player, but he is prone to get the hump.

I was right at the front of the Holte for the game against PNE for the first time since we beat Cardiff at Christmas under The Doc.  From the moment the ref gave the penalty right through all the ridiculous melodrama of their protests, he was pissing himself laughing. 

I would class him as what we used to call a maverick.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: MONCABA on March 10, 2018, 10:22:51 AM
Got a great chance  of being the match winner today.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: IFWaters on March 10, 2018, 04:33:48 PM
Not even in the squad?
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 10, 2018, 04:34:27 PM
Not even in the squad?

He’s starting
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: IFWaters on March 10, 2018, 04:39:51 PM
I can't read
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Risso on March 10, 2018, 07:05:49 PM
A quality forward, superb signing.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Deano's Mullet on March 10, 2018, 07:06:28 PM
Excellent signing
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 10, 2018, 07:31:17 PM
A proper centre forward. Stronger, fast and a natural instinct for his position.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: SoccerHQ on March 10, 2018, 08:41:21 PM
Tremendous forward display tonight.

The ball sticks to him when it's booted upfront.

If we'd had him in August we'd be where Wolves are now.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 10, 2018, 08:44:52 PM
I wasn't convinced when he joined us but he's been excellent so far.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Rudy65 on March 10, 2018, 08:48:11 PM
Despite Hogan’s recent improvement I prefer Grabban if we play a lone striker. More athletic and aggressive
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Damo70 on March 10, 2018, 08:48:44 PM
I was optimistic when he joined. Admittedly after a bit of tinternet research as opposed to my own (lack of) knowledge about him, but he has boosted us and I rate him.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 10, 2018, 08:52:34 PM
He's obviously a very talented player so you do have to wonder why he's in the Championship on loan and never stays anywhere very long.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: SoccerHQ on March 10, 2018, 08:54:09 PM
Despite Hogan’s recent improvement I prefer Grabban if we play a lone striker. More athletic and aggressive

Is there any doubt?

O.k Hogan's nicked a few since Xmas but their general hold up play is night and day. Grabban is just a better fit for the way we play.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Matt Collins on March 10, 2018, 11:13:50 PM
No question.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: PaulWinch again on March 10, 2018, 11:26:30 PM
He’s been a fine addition.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: brontebilly on March 10, 2018, 11:32:17 PM
He's obviously a very talented player so you do have to wonder why he's in the Championship on loan and never stays anywhere very long.

For a guy that hadn't played in weeks before joining us, he looks a different class to most forwards in the division. Far superior player to Hogan.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: West Derby Villan on March 11, 2018, 01:17:52 AM
Inspired signing!
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: adrenachrome on March 11, 2018, 02:03:07 AM
A run to to the near post to score a goal! Only since once by a Villla player in many a long year since a Joe Cole conversion.

And deliberately standing in an offside position at free kicks and corners and wandering back on at the right moment to take advantage of the new rules.  Horse Face at Manure and Teary Henry Spunkstain were doing this as the soon as the rules changed.

It is an omen, a sign. Auspicious weapons are being forged deep in the bowels of VP and BH, and interlopers and thimble riggers will be put to the sword.  So it is written.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Olof's Beard on March 11, 2018, 08:22:11 AM
Last season, we had Kodjia scoring loads but nobody else chipping in with anything significant. This season, we've been scoring goals from everywhere but lacked a striker who was scoring every other game. Grabban's showing us what happens when you have both, 11 goals in the last 3 games for the team and 4 in 4 for him. He's made one heck of an impact.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: ChicagoLion on March 11, 2018, 08:27:41 AM
Reminds me of Collymore on a good day.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: LeeB on March 11, 2018, 08:41:52 AM
Reminds me of Collymore on a good day.

I can see that too.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Ad@m on March 11, 2018, 09:09:14 AM
He runs just like Collymore.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: brian green on March 11, 2018, 09:19:48 AM
He is a club hobo like Stanley Victor.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Mister E on March 11, 2018, 09:43:19 AM
Reminds me of Collymore on a good day.

I can see that too.
my mate said the same at the game ...
I only became aware of Grabban when he came to VP with Blunderland earlier this season. Then, I noted his incessant off-the-ball running and the way he kept splitting the CB. Since he joined us, I also see that he gives the CB. A really physically tough time; not an easy man to play against.
All of which is great.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Ads on March 11, 2018, 09:44:21 AM
Pft you're weeks late with your Collymore comparisons. Bloody band waggen jumpers.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Rudy65 on March 11, 2018, 10:31:23 AM
As much as Hogan has improved recently, Grabban offers much more playing as the lone striker
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Diablo on March 11, 2018, 03:37:55 PM
Dare I say it he appears to be settled and really enjoying his time here. Long may it continue. I'm conscious that Sunderland fans took to him initially and then it all went sour despite him scoring so many goals for them. I'd love to really know what went on up there.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on March 11, 2018, 03:46:09 PM
Looks to me like a player good enough to play in the top flight. If he keeps this up we should look to sign him permanently if we go up and another loan if we don’t. I doubt he would cost much either.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Percy McCarthy on March 11, 2018, 03:59:31 PM
Well done me for suggesting we sign him and for saying when we did that he would soon be first choice. Hogan = Bent, Grabban = Benteke, in that the latter two can actually play football outside the box.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: KevinGage on March 11, 2018, 04:48:11 PM
Not quite seeing the Collywobbles comparisons.

Stan had his issues, but when he was on it, he could make his own goals out of nothing. And dribble the length of the pitch doing so.

He's closer to a Vassell-type - or what Gabby could have been with a bit of hunger and nous- a nuisance of a player who can work the channels and free up a bit of space for others to exploit. He seems to anticipate where the ball will break far better than that pair too. Which is odd, considering they both gained international recognition. 

He also has a bit of a nasty streak in him and seems to enjoy a spat with the opposition centre half. Which is no bad thing.

Hogan has looked more confident recently. But if he ain't scoring, he ain't really doing much else.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Keeno on March 11, 2018, 05:34:53 PM
Dare I say it he appears to be settled and really enjoying his time here. Long may it continue. I'm conscious that Sunderland fans took to him initially and then it all went sour despite despite him scoring so many goals for them. I'd love to really know what went on up there.

I'm not sure I'd read into anything that went on at Sunderland, they're loong past the 'sour' stage and I think any player would struggle in that toxic atmosphere. Amazing he managed to get the goals he did!
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: LeeB on March 11, 2018, 11:03:03 PM
Not quite seeing the Collywobbles comparisons.

Stan had his issues, but when he was on it, he could make his own goals out of nothing. And dribble the length of the pitch doing so.

He's closer to a Vassell-type - or what Gabby could have been with a bit of hunger and nous- a nuisance of a player who can work the channels and free up a bit of space for others to exploit. He seems to anticipate where the ball will break far better than that pair too. Which is odd, considering they both gained international recognition. 

He also has a bit of a nasty streak in him and seems to enjoy a spat with the opposition centre half. Which is no bad thing.

Hogan has looked more confident recently. But if he ain't scoring, he ain't really doing much else.

The Collymore thing is not so much his ability, but his movement and gait is really reminiscent.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: KevinGage on March 11, 2018, 11:11:52 PM
Fair enough, so.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: olaftab on March 11, 2018, 11:24:15 PM
The way he executed the goal on Saturday was top flight stuff. And I also don’t want to worry too much about his tenure at Sunderland because as we found out when you are shit everything turns that way. He is now in a successful set up. However more important question is why didn’t he establish himself at Bmouth?
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: mr underhill on March 12, 2018, 07:19:33 AM
I don't care - I just want him to score every time he plays to help us face them next season
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Risso on March 12, 2018, 08:57:34 AM
Well done me for suggesting we sign him and for saying when we did that he would soon be first choice. Hogan = Bent, Grabban = Benteke, in that the latter two can actually play football outside the box.

Fair play, that was a good spot, I'd never heard of him!
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Holte L2 on March 12, 2018, 09:08:16 AM
Not quite seeing the Collywobbles comparisons.

Stan had his issues, but when he was on it, he could make his own goals out of nothing. And dribble the length of the pitch doing so.

He's closer to a Vassell-type - or what Gabby could have been with a bit of hunger and nous- a nuisance of a player who can work the channels and free up a bit of space for others to exploit. He seems to anticipate where the ball will break far better than that pair too. Which is odd, considering they both gained international recognition. 

He also has a bit of a nasty streak in him and seems to enjoy a spat with the opposition centre half. Which is no bad thing.

Hogan has looked more confident recently. But if he ain't scoring, he ain't really doing much else.

The Collymore thing is not so much his ability, but his movement and gait is really reminiscent.

I said exactly the same to my dad on Saturday.  He bullies defenders and runs the channels like Stan did though.  On a good day!
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: darren woolley on March 12, 2018, 09:24:32 AM
He's been a brilliant loan signing for us really like the man.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Diablo on March 12, 2018, 09:40:18 AM
I did some digging on one of the Sunderland Forums and reading between the lines it looks as though Bournemouth simply recalled him (as they were looking to get a transfer fee and maybe Sunderland couldn't offer him a permanent deal?) and Lewis didn't have much of an option. There was initial interest from Wolves but he's ended up here (not sure who the other club that were after him were?). Sunderland will have difficulty trying to explain why/how they let someone who has scored 12 goals in 19 games for them leave to their fans, so there's always the possibility of a degree of spin? Taken from the Sunderland message board

On 5 January safc.com announced that the clubs had mutually agreed to cancel the loan agreement. It wasn't down to the activation of a clause by Bournemouth, we agreed to terminate the agreement.

On 2 February Coleman said "Lewis informed us of his desire to leave".

But Grabban said "There was a little bit of interest from Wolves to begin with but they went onto something else. I was called back with the indication that Bournemouth were going to sell me but that didn’t happen. There was also interest from elsewhere but Villa was the club I chose. As for Sunderland, I thought it was a good time. 22 In the press it came out that I wanted to go back. That’s not true. I was playing week in, week out and scoring goals, who wouldn’t be happy? The clubs agreed what they agreed and that was that."

Then, yesterday, Coleman admitted that Grabban had never spoken to him: "He actually never came to me, he went to see our chief executive. As we understood it he had cancelled his accommodation, then had a conversation with our chief executive to say his time here was up."

So even on Coleman's version of events, the club agreed to release their top scorer, who had 12 goals in 19 games for the worst side in the Division, without Coleman ever having a conversation with Grabban about it. And Grabban disputes the conversation and it may have been on the basis that Grabban wanted a move to Wolves which fell through anyway.



I hope Sunderland manage to get their act together and stay up their fans deserve much, much better. Can't say the same about their board/owner though.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: LeeB on March 12, 2018, 10:58:51 AM
Jesus, that's a level of ineptitude beyond what we pulled off when we went down.

They are truly fucked.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Clark W Griswold on March 12, 2018, 12:36:23 PM
I like Lewis Grabban, he was excellent on Saturday. I'm going to predict a goal haul similar to that of Darren Bent when he first signed for us Jan-May.

EDIT : And yes, I thought the same thing with the Collymore comparisons on Saturday. He comes deep and lays it off and runs just like Collymore did for us (the odd times he could be arsed) and he's similar in the box with the poacher instinct. He's pretty strong physically and quick but so far he doesn't look the threat Collymore was shooting from distance. We are of course talking about a league below but touch wood, so far he's not appearing to be temperamental like Collymore was.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: brontebilly on March 12, 2018, 12:42:24 PM
Far superior player to Hogan, better movement, better touch, hold up play. Would make you question why he hasn't progressed further in the game..

Our loan players have been excellent, even Onomoah in the first half of the season.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Smirker on March 12, 2018, 12:52:46 PM
No complaints with how we've gone about our transfer business really.

Really pleased with how we've got rid of duds and brought in useful players who are getting the job done.

Wonder of we will see any of the players on loan come back and have another go at it with us.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: mr underhill on March 12, 2018, 03:18:15 PM
i don't want to think about what would have happened if Onomare had been playing on Saturday - he'd have been marmelized
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Brassneck on March 13, 2018, 10:35:14 AM
I first read that we were linked to Grabban last Autumn. I didn't know anything about him so looked him up on YT. His goals were far from spectacular, more the "ugly" type of goal. Now whilst a goal is a goal and you don't get any more for a spectacular goal, I questioned whether Grabban was the answer for a team who played with just one up front.

I watched him closely when Sunderland came here and he looked a bit more lively than I had anticipated but I still wasn't sold on him.

I've watched him in all of his appearances in a Villa shirt and I've been really, really impressed, climaxing with his great performance on Saturday. If he continues this between now and the end of the season, I'd have no hesitation in signing him on a permanent, regardless of what division we are playing in next season.

At this moment in time, I wouldn't swap Grabban for Ulla despite being disappointed that we had done so in January.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Ads on March 13, 2018, 01:05:41 PM
I think its his ability for the ball to stick and similarly move it on at pace. His movement is excellent, as he drifts wide and deep, yet he still seems to be in a position to split the centre halves, like Saturday.

Good player.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 13, 2018, 01:39:33 PM
He’s a very strong lad too and has a very stable centre of gravity so he doesn’t get knocked off the ball easily. And at 6ft he can compete for headers while having good footwork and movement. Not the fastest but he makes use of his speed through his positioning. He’s exactly what we needed in January to help see us over the line.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: tomd2103 on March 13, 2018, 01:43:58 PM
I think its his ability for the ball to stick and similarly move it on at pace. His movement is excellent, as he drifts wide and deep, yet he still seems to be in a position to split the centre halves, like Saturday.

Good player.

Yep and probably still not quite at full sharpness yet either.  He has a welcome combination for any striker - strong enough to hold the ball up and enough pace to get in behind defenders. 
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Diablo on March 13, 2018, 01:48:40 PM
He's currently on 16 this season, total number of goals?  Barring injury I'm going for another 5 if we don't make the playoffs. 6 if we do.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Drummond on March 13, 2018, 03:08:41 PM
I've watched him in all of his appearances in a Villa shirt and I've been really, really impressed, climaxing with his great performance on Saturday.

Blimey, he was good but he didn't have that effect on me.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Brassneck on March 13, 2018, 03:17:31 PM
I've watched him in all of his appearances in a Villa shirt and I've been really, really impressed, climaxing with his great performance on Saturday.

Blimey, he was good but he didn't have that effect on me.

Leading the line in a side that scored 4 goals against the league leaders was a great performance, even allowing for the low bar that Hogan has set.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Matt Collins on March 13, 2018, 03:50:54 PM
Whoosh
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: ChicagoLion on March 13, 2018, 03:52:55 PM
I've watched him in all of his appearances in a Villa shirt and I've been really, really impressed, climaxing with his great performance on Saturday.

Blimey, he was good but he didn't have that effect on me.
He wanted to pull him off at half time.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: mr underhill on March 13, 2018, 04:24:44 PM
fortunately he hadn't blown his load at that point
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: itbrvilla on March 13, 2018, 05:29:18 PM
fortunately he hadn't blown his load at that point
I knew he would cum good.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: in exile on March 14, 2018, 09:40:00 AM
fortunately he hadn't blown his load at that point
I knew he would cum good.

He still needs a few more spunky performances to win me over
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: eamonn on March 14, 2018, 02:24:55 PM
Last night he looked impotent, away from the action while our box was being pummelled.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Axl Rose on March 14, 2018, 02:42:55 PM
Too much dribbling, not enough shooting.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Bad English on March 14, 2018, 03:30:17 PM
It was extremely hard for him last night.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: paul_e on March 14, 2018, 03:51:00 PM
It was extremely hard for him last night.

Until Bruce pulled him off.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Chinchilla Bathhouse on March 14, 2018, 06:43:45 PM
I expected Bruce to take Lewis off in the first half and then Jack off at half time.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Risso on March 14, 2018, 07:05:07 PM
He picked up a bit of a Yorkshire accent from his time at Rotherham.  I heard him chastising Grealish for not getting into the box at the right time. 

"Eeh, Jack yer late!"
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: adrenachrome on March 15, 2018, 07:42:36 PM
He picked up a bit of a Yorkshire accent from his time at Rotherham.  I heard him chastising Grealish for not getting into the box at the right time. 

"Eeh, Jack yer late!"

It's a cracker!
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: b23 on March 27, 2018, 03:41:40 PM
oooops !!!

Aston Villa player's brother-in-law crashed new Ferrari

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-43558486
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: johnc on March 27, 2018, 03:45:54 PM
oooops !!!

Aston Villa player's brother-in-law crashed new Ferrari

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-43558486
Shipped back to Italy for repairs? A good panel beater would have had it as good as new!
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 27, 2018, 09:34:32 PM
oooops !!!

Aston Villa player's brother-in-law crashed new Ferrari

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-43558486
Shipped back to Italy for repairs? A good panel beater would have had it as good as new!

You could T Cut that out, no problem.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: dave shelley on March 28, 2018, 08:44:43 AM
As they would say over here when presenting a near write-off...I've had a little bit of a tip.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Smirker on April 13, 2018, 09:57:29 PM
Took his goal well.

Great bit of transfer business.

Well done Lewis.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: LeeB on April 13, 2018, 09:59:50 PM
He's as very composed player.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Steve67 on April 13, 2018, 10:08:21 PM
If we don't go up, would like to sign him permanently if we can afford him.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: oldhill_avfc on April 13, 2018, 11:38:13 PM
This is his level.

Ditto Adomah, Snodgrass et al.

We've only got 3 players who you'd want to sign up at this stage; Grealish, Chester and Johnson.  Kodija possibly.  A few others could do a job but if they started more than 10 games we'd be in the shtuck.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: ROBBO on April 13, 2018, 11:51:45 PM
This is his level.

Ditto Adomah, Snodgrass et al.

We've only got 3 players who you'd want to sign up at this stage; Grealish, Chester and Johnson.  Kodija possibly.  A few others could do a job but if they started more than 10 games we'd be in the shtuck.

Agree with this, if we make it this season there will have to be almost a new team bought, most of what we have are championship level at best. Any thought of using most of these in the premiership will mean a swift return.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Sexual Ealing on April 14, 2018, 12:01:39 AM
Have you seen Brighton's or Huddersfield's squads. Teams can easily stay in the PL with good coaching and management.

Anyway, when we do go up, I trust that we won't be aiming only to stay in the league.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: oldhill_avfc on April 14, 2018, 12:06:40 AM
Ate you referring to the huddersfield who may well get relegated?
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: oldhill_avfc on April 14, 2018, 12:08:43 AM
Anyway wolves are  heading straight into the champions league so any team that can beat them must qualify for the Europa.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: mr underhill on April 14, 2018, 07:21:56 AM
I like Grabban, he put a shift in yesterday and won us the game
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: ChicagoLion on April 14, 2018, 08:54:25 AM
Teams can easily stay in the PL with good coaching and management.



Can any one see the obvious flaw here?
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: brontebilly on April 14, 2018, 10:22:58 AM
This is his level.

Ditto Adomah, Snodgrass et al.

We've only got 3 players who you'd want to sign up at this stage; Grealish, Chester and Johnson.  Kodija possibly.  A few others could do a job but if they started more than 10 games we'd be in the shtuck.

You would wonder why Grabban has had such a nomadic career, clearly has plenty of ability. To be fair to Bruce, Johnstone, Snodgrass and Grabban have been three superb loan signings.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: mr underhill on April 14, 2018, 11:00:46 AM
Totally agree - if we don't go up I'd like Grabban leading the line ( if the price was right) with Kodjia out left and Albert right, assuming Snoddy would be off to WH or elsewhere. We've then got The Russian and KD fighting for some forward spots too. And Jedinack llooks like he could step into Terry's spot too.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: dave.woodhall on April 14, 2018, 11:04:32 AM
Teams can easily stay in the PL with good coaching and management.



Can any one see the obvious flaw here?

No; do tell.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: andyh on April 14, 2018, 11:09:08 AM
Anyway wolves are  heading straight into the champions league so any team that can beat them must qualify for the Europa.

I think Wolves should be sent to Russia in the summer to represent England in the World Cup.

They are such gods, they would win the cup by the quarter finals.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: olaftab on April 14, 2018, 11:10:47 AM
Ate you referring to the huddersfield who may well get relegated?

How about Bournemouth, Burnley, Brighton and Watford.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on April 14, 2018, 11:32:59 AM
I was impressed by Grabban
last night - he looked committed and composed unlike Hogan when he came on
Grabban reminds a bit of Collymore -  his style of running and the way he holds the ball up
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: olaftab on April 14, 2018, 11:44:19 AM
Yes a little bit like Stan but no where near him. Collymore could have ranked alongside the best in the world in the mid to late 90's if only....
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Brassneck on April 14, 2018, 11:48:09 AM
I was impressed by Grabban
last night - he looked committed and composed unlike Hogan when he came on
Grabban reminds a bit of Collymore -  his style of running and the way he holds the ball up

I've been impressed by Grabban since he first joined us. I must confess to not knowing anything about him prior to that.

We were back to 433 last night and if we stay down, I'd like us to revert to this next season.

Ideally, in those circumstances, I would like us to either get Grabban back on loan or to buy him outright. I'd then play a front 3 of either Grabban, Kodjia, Adomah, Green or (last choice) Hogan. This is of course assuming that Snodgrass won't be coming back.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: West Derby Villan on April 14, 2018, 11:56:20 AM
I was impressed by Grabban
last night - he looked committed and composed unlike Hogan when he came on
Grabban reminds a bit of Collymore -  his style of running and the way he holds the ball up

Totally agree with these comments and also the previous one questioning why a player of his unquestionable ability has had such a nomadic career
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: LeeB on April 14, 2018, 12:07:18 PM
He’s probably just happy that he’s finally playing for a big club.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: KevinGage on April 14, 2018, 12:24:55 PM
If we don't go up, would like to sign him permanently if we can afford him.

I'd take him even if we do go up.

Has a bit of everything to his game -without being truly outstanding in any one aspect.

Thought we were getting a mobile striker who could -in theory- play anywhere across the front three. But would play in a similar fashion in any of those three positions. Like a Scott Sinclair, for example.

But he can switch his game up depending on where he plays. Directly up top? He can hold the ball up a bit and make it stick, is a nuisance to centre halves and is reasonable in the air.

Out wide? He can pull fullbacks out of position, or get in behind, with a well timed run.

Tuesday night was possibly the best I'd seen from him. In a dour match, he was prob our best outfield player (sorry Jack).

That Cardiff shithouse is still trying to find his way back into the stadium after that cheeky dummy in the corner of the Holte and Trinity.

And I thought the defence splitting pass to put Hourihane through was from Jack initially.

He has had a nomadic career up until now. But realistically, we'll be the biggest club he plays for. Perhaps he knows that and is determined to make it work.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: SheffieldVillain on April 14, 2018, 12:34:49 PM
Agree with Kevin. I'd take him as a back-up striker even if we do go up. Pest of a striker for defenders to deal with, always going to get goals.

Him, Kodija and a new signing plus RHM and Davis is a decent set of options and doesn't block the progress of the younger strikers.

Hogan, McCormack and Gabby should all go even if we take a big hit on transfer fees - that's £100k plus saved on wages towards a new striker.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: JUAN PABLO on April 14, 2018, 03:46:20 PM
anyone who scores 12 goals for a crap team like Sunderland , must be pretty decent. I do like him and heard he has played midfield in the past and seeing that ball to conor I can see why they used him there . Sign him up
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: in exile on April 14, 2018, 03:48:24 PM
I like Grabban.
Intelligent
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on April 14, 2018, 07:10:20 PM
He seems to like it here too - I would welcome him as a new signing as long as the price is reasonable
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: eamonn on April 14, 2018, 07:18:47 PM
He's done well but I wonder if we'd got Mitrovic instead of him, would we be where Fulham are now?
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: ChicagoLion on April 14, 2018, 07:21:16 PM
He's done well but I wonder if we'd got Mitrovic instead of him, would we be where Fulham are now?
Hogan?
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: eamonn on April 14, 2018, 07:28:15 PM
No, Grabban, as they both moved on-loan in January.

Anyway, I was, ahem, trying to tempt fate into a Brentford equaliser, looks like it did the trick.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: SoccerHQ on April 14, 2018, 07:36:05 PM
Someone like Grabban should've been signed in August.

We were well short upfront start of the season (Gabby starting and Samba coming on as emergency CF). We knew Kodjia wouldn't be available for first 10 games months in advance.

Poor planning and contributed to one win in our first seven league games.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Smirker on April 21, 2018, 04:26:52 PM
 8)
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on April 21, 2018, 05:04:31 PM
Decent bit of work by Bruce to bring Grabban on board - I like his confidence - shame we didn't have him at the start of the season -  would like to keep him for next season wherever we are
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on April 21, 2018, 05:10:39 PM
Just noted Ramadan starts 15th May - hope this doesn't have any effect on his stamina levels
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Risso on April 21, 2018, 09:06:27 PM
I think he's the best, most complete striker we've had in ages.  He held the ball up brilliantly by himself today, then when Hogan came on, he shifted out wide.  And of course he scored two very good goals.

He looks every bit the £12m striker that Hogan doesn't.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Toronto Villa on April 21, 2018, 09:43:12 PM
Other than that you love Hogan though right Riss?
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Risso on April 21, 2018, 10:02:52 PM
Just in case I haven't made my position and views clear, I think Hogan is shit. No really, I do.  He came on today, stood between their two central defenders for 25 minutes, then when he did get a chance on a plate, he skied it over the bar.  Absolute rubbish.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Toronto Villa on April 21, 2018, 10:14:48 PM
But he does run around with purpose like he’s going to do something soon.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Risso on April 21, 2018, 10:16:30 PM
But he does run around with purpose like he’s going to do something soon.

He didn't today.  He hung around their goal like I do after 50 minutes of five aside football and I'm breathing out of my arse.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Lastfootstamper on April 21, 2018, 10:32:46 PM
We've proved to be at our best when playing to Hogan's strengths. Only with Grabban in for Hogan.

I have to think he's been looking for a home where he "fits". Maybe it's us, and he'll be happy, fruitful and successful.

Well, until we get someone better, obvs.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Clampy on April 22, 2018, 12:06:38 AM
I like Hogan. He seems to have the right attitude and there is a decent player there.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: not3bad on April 22, 2018, 12:57:49 AM
I don't dislike Hogan but there is a gulf in class between him and Grabban.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: KevinGage on April 22, 2018, 01:52:00 AM
He's doing a very good job at convincing us to sign him permanently.

Problem is, he's giving Bournemouth a very good reason to charge a premium for him.

When you see the transfer fees paid for the likes of Kodjia, Hogan and even Assumabongface at Boro in recent years, why should a player who has had more than once decent season at this level go for drastically less?
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 22, 2018, 03:15:24 AM
Difference is he's 30 and only as 18 months left on his contract so you assume he'd be cheaper. The others you mention were all mid 20s or younger. What would concern me about signing him is why has he gone through so many clubs, we're his 13th club if you include loans and playing for Bournemouth twice. That's some going. Then again i'm probably just wary of us being stuck with another expensive misfit striker.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Uknowthescore on April 22, 2018, 09:41:26 AM
Joint top scorer in championship. Sign him up
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: frank black on April 22, 2018, 09:52:01 AM
Blimey he’s 30, didn’t realise that. Not worth paying through the nose then. Good player
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: rougegorge on April 22, 2018, 10:06:25 AM
If we'd had Grabban from the start of the season I think we'd have been in the top 2. He scored a lot for a struggling team before that, and offers more than Hogan. People go on about not playing to Hogan's strengths, but since he's been here, he is yet to show what those really are.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Ad@m on April 22, 2018, 05:27:11 PM
People go on about not playing to Hogan's strengths, but since he's been here, he is yet to show what those really are.

Remember when we played to his strengths and he scored 5 in 5?
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: pauliewalnuts on April 22, 2018, 05:27:27 PM
He's a very good footballer. The technique for both his goals, but particularly the first, was excellent.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Risso on April 22, 2018, 05:28:25 PM
People go on about not playing to Hogan's strengths, but since he's been here, he is yet to show what those really are.

Remember when we played to his strengths and he scored 5 in 5?

Thosr goals were from crosses. Have we stopped doing that?
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: TheMalandro on April 22, 2018, 05:35:04 PM
I'd forget about Hogan and Kodjia (other than sub appearances) Grabban has to be our first choice forward.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: paul_e on April 22, 2018, 06:15:24 PM
I'd forget about Hogan and Kodjia (other than sub appearances) Grabban has to be our first choice forward.

Or we could pick between Grabban and Kodjia based on who we're playing and how we want to approach the game, thus taking advantage of having 2 strikers who are exceptional at this level. If we did that right across the midfield and frontline we'd be challenging with Wolves for top rather than looking like we're going to have to settle for 4th.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Matt Collins on April 22, 2018, 06:27:01 PM
Hogan is good at what he does but it’s too limited - and limiting

For what we paid he’s still been a disappointment for me
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Percy McCarthy on April 22, 2018, 07:07:03 PM
People go on about not playing to Hogan's strengths, but since he's been here, he is yet to show what those really are.

Remember when we played to his strengths and he scored 5 in 5?

Trouble is it was probably about 5 in 10 touches.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Steve67 on April 22, 2018, 07:20:09 PM
Hogan is not a bad player but it just hasn't worked for him at Villa.  Grabban, in my view is just a better player.  Fits in with our style better and is a better finisher.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: paul_e on April 22, 2018, 08:14:14 PM
I've said it before but I genuinely think Hogan is a poor player but has good enough instincts in front of goal to be a good goalscorer so long as teams accept that he brings nothing else.  I think Monty said before that he's basically Darren Bent and I agree except I'd also add with the top end pace to frighten teams.

Grabban is a far better player (but I suspect he may be a bit of a 'bully' who looks world class against average defenders but struggles against a decent defence, the Cardiff game backs that up a bit and it explains why he struggled in the premier league) and if we don't go up I think he'd be a great signing but if we're promoted I'm just not sure that a 30 year old who's struggled for games and goals at 2 premier league clubs over 3 seasons is the sort of signing to show that we're back and we mean business.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: SoccerHQ on April 22, 2018, 08:35:53 PM
Just in case I haven't made my position and views clear, I think Hogan is shit. No really, I do.  He came on today, stood between their two central defenders for 25 minutes, then when he did get a chance on a plate, he skied it over the bar.  Absolute rubbish.

Hogan showed at Brentford he is a good striker at this level.

It's been really clear since his early games he just dosen't suit our style. It's alright saying we should change our style of play to get more out of Hogan but Grabban dosen't seem to have an issue scoring goals from the way we play.

If we can sell hogan for 5m I'd do it and use that to get Grabban on a full time basis.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: SoccerHQ on April 22, 2018, 08:37:53 PM
I'd forget about Hogan and Kodjia (other than sub appearances) Grabban has to be our first choice forward.

I'd look to play both, they were great second half v Cardiff pushing and pulling their back 4 all over the place with their runs.

Let's be honest aside from the odd game Adomah hasn't been great at all since the play offs so don't think he should be a nailed on starter when the play offs begin.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: ROBBO on April 22, 2018, 10:17:24 PM
When Hogan came on Grabban played on the left and to me that's where he's best suited, what impresses me is his ability to hold the ball and the way he can pick out a good pass.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Matt Collins on April 24, 2018, 08:03:11 AM
Adomah needed and deserved a rest - like Snoddy

I thought he looked energised when he came on v Leeds but agree we should play the man in form

If that means Grabban left and hogan up top at home then I’d be ok

I wouldn’t play hogan away from home though. Apart from Forest away I can’t think of a single away league game where he’s played well. And it’s so limiting if you’re gonna play the shape we’re playing.

Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Risso on April 24, 2018, 11:48:14 AM
If you play Hogan at all, home or away, you're effectively playing with 10 men.  If he's not scoring, which let's be honest is the vast majority of the time, he isn't contributing anything else.  Grabban, Kodjia and even Davis add a lot more to the team.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Ad@m on April 24, 2018, 12:32:32 PM
If you play Hogan at all, home or away, you're effectively playing with 10 men.  If he's not scoring, which let's be honest is the vast majority of the time, he isn't contributing anything else.  Grabban, Kodjia and even Davis add a lot more to the team.

Has he shagged your missus?!  Or ran over your cat?!

I reckon you've got a post in slagging Hogan off on pretty much every thread on this site...
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Ads on April 24, 2018, 12:36:38 PM
Risso used to be married to Cheetrah until Hogan shagged her and run her over at the same time in some awful sex game gone wrong.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Ad@m on April 24, 2018, 12:54:25 PM
Risso used to be married to Cheetrah until Hogan shagged her and run her over at the same time in some awful sex game gone wrong.

Ah, ok.  Touchy subject then...
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: tomd2103 on April 24, 2018, 01:45:46 PM
If you play Hogan at all, home or away, you're effectively playing with 10 men.  If he's not scoring, which let's be honest is the vast majority of the time, he isn't contributing anything else.  Grabban, Kodjia and even Davis add a lot more to the team.

Has he shagged your missus?!  Or ran over your cat?!

I reckon you've got a post in slagging Hogan off on pretty much every thread on this site...

It's a pretty accurate summation though unfortunately. 
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on April 24, 2018, 02:35:23 PM
If you play Hogan at all, home or away, you're effectively playing with 10 men.  If he's not scoring, which let's be honest is the vast majority of the time, he isn't contributing anything else.  Grabban, Kodjia and even Davis add a lot more to the team.

Has he shagged your missus?!  Or ran over your cat?!

I reckon you've got a post in slagging Hogan off on pretty much every thread on this site...

It's a pretty accurate summation though unfortunately. 

Sadly, I have to agree. It's got to the stage where I'm laughing at him. Such poor control, his one on one the other day, his simple opportunities wasted. At the same time there's something I admire about him, it's just not for us right now. As much as i want him to score and get some confidence, the poor lad must be thinking he'll never score again. Maybe that's why I admire him, he keeps trying.

Put him down to come off the bench in the final and score the winner. Why not? It's been that kind of season.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: eamonn on April 24, 2018, 02:57:47 PM
If you play Hogan at all, home or away, you're effectively playing with 10 men.  If he's not scoring, which let's be honest is the vast majority of the time, he isn't contributing anything else.  Grabban, Kodjia and even Davis add a lot more to the team.

Has he shagged your missus?!  Or ran over your cat?!

I reckon you've got a post in slagging Hogan off on pretty much every thread on this site...

He used to bully Barney too but has backed-off a bit lately ;)
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 24, 2018, 04:28:37 PM
In 49 league games for us, 27 starts and 22 as sub, he's scored 7 goals. That's crap for any striker, never mind one that cost as much as he did. He tries and he runs but hasn't offered us much else. I think he's better than what we've seen but there's little doubt he's been a poor signing and a waste of money so far.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: eamonn on April 24, 2018, 04:52:16 PM
Stellar record in the cup though, right?  :-X
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 24, 2018, 04:57:53 PM
If we played Wigan reserves every week he'd outscore Messi.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: brontebilly on April 24, 2018, 09:48:15 PM
People go on about not playing to Hogan's strengths, but since he's been here, he is yet to show what those really are.

Remember when we played to his strengths and he scored 5 in 5?

Which are? His movement is decent in the box only. Our midfield isn't so good that we can afford to have a goal hanger up top. I don't think Hogan fits our style of play at all, classic poorly scouted signing. Not a bad sub to have as does tend to get chances.

Grabban played great up top v Wolves but was bullied in the same position v Cardiff. I'd nearly start Kodjia v Derby if fit. Just to get some game time into him. Changed game when he came in against Cardiff.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Risso on April 24, 2018, 10:54:08 PM
If you play Hogan at all, home or away, you're effectively playing with 10 men.  If he's not scoring, which let's be honest is the vast majority of the time, he isn't contributing anything else.  Grabban, Kodjia and even Davis add a lot more to the team.

Has he shagged your missus?!  Or ran over your cat?!


I wouldn't trust him to hit the target in either situation!
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: SoccerHQ on April 24, 2018, 10:59:03 PM
Funny I thought Grabban actually played o.k v Cardiff and impacted on the game far more than Hogan would've done.

That throughball for Hourihane's chance was delicious.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Matt Collins on April 25, 2018, 06:47:32 AM
Grabban looked better when he went left v Cardiff

I’d definitely sell Hogan if we could get anywhere near double digits for him - but I doubt we could
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Risso on April 25, 2018, 07:18:27 AM
If you play Hogan at all, home or away, you're effectively playing with 10 men.  If he's not scoring, which let's be honest is the vast majority of the time, he isn't contributing anything else.  Grabban, Kodjia and even Davis add a lot more to the team.

Has he shagged your missus?!  Or ran over your cat?!

I reckon you've got a post in slagging Hogan off on pretty much every thread on this site...

He used to bully Barney too but has backed-off a bit lately ;)

He was very good against Ipswich, and other games.  Much improved.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on April 25, 2018, 03:47:14 PM
I’d definitely sell Hogan if we could get anywhere near double digits for him - but I doubt we could

I'd imagine he'd command a price of below £4m now.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: eamonn on April 27, 2018, 09:05:41 AM
Yep, anywhere near double digits would mean nearly getting our money back on him and he's only regressed in the last 15 months with us. His dodgy injury record may also put teams off.
Then again, West Ham, who were after Hogan the same time as us, splurged about the same amount of money on Hugill from Preston who may have been impressive but wasn't overly prolific.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: garyshawsknee on April 28, 2018, 05:58:32 PM
Joint top scorer in the league now, would defintely sign in the summer no matter what league we are in. Don't think we'd be in the play offs if he was signed in the summer.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: PaulWinch again on April 28, 2018, 06:57:00 PM
Right Lewis 8 more goals this season please, preferably all in the play offs.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Steve67 on April 28, 2018, 07:12:11 PM
Nice to see him going mad when he scored.  Could so easily had a hatrick.  Nice flick for the header that hit the bar in the first half, shame he couldn't guide it down.  Really good player.  Him and Kodjia in the same side would be a real handful.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: dcdavecollett on April 29, 2018, 06:32:58 PM
Played well, good touch and not too outmuscled by bigger players. First choice every game for me. Shame he missed with the first-half clear header.
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: algy on July 06, 2018, 12:32:22 PM
Looks like he's potentially off to Forest: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44727936

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Championship side Nottingham Forest have had a £6m bid accepted for AFC Bournemouth striker Lewis Grabban.

The 30-year-old scored 20 goals during loan spells with Sunderland and Aston Villa in the second tier last season.

Grabban has netted 36 times in 115 games in two spells with the Cherries, and has also attracted interest from Birmingham, Leeds and Middlesbrough.

But since rejoining Bournemouth from Norwich City in January 2016, Grabban has played for them just 22 times.

Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on July 06, 2018, 01:19:10 PM
I quite liked him - he reminded me of Collymore - but like Stan he flattered to deceive - would have been a reasonable signing but not at £6m
Title: Re: Lewis Grabban - signed on loan
Post by: Clampy on July 06, 2018, 01:20:11 PM
I quite liked him - he reminded me of Collymore - but like Stan he flattered to deceive - would have been a reasonable signing but not at £6m

I thought it was a lot of money for him. His spells with us and Sunderland really did work out well for Bournemouth.
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