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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Matt Collins on November 19, 2017, 08:50:16 AM
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I think we’ll find out soon enough. Not sure Davis can play three full games in a week.
Gabby is a way off. RHM has been injured for ages. Green still a little way off.
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Gone with McKirdy, further evidence of a path to the first team. Probably try to get someone like Crouch on loan in January (maybe offering him a one year deal if we get promoted)
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I think he will play three full games this week.
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I think we’ll find out soon enough. Not sure Davis can play three full games in a week.
Gabby is a way off. RHM has been injured for ages. Green still a little way off.
What kind of injury has Gabby these days ?
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Form he's in I'd push Adomah up there and see what he can do.
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Kidknapp Christian Benteke
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I think we’ll find out soon enough. Not sure Davis can play three full games in a week.
Gabby is a way off. RHM has been injured for ages. Green still a little way off.
What kind of injury has Gabby these days ?
Ripped calf muscle. He should be back soon and can do the job especially the way we're playing as a team at the moment.
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I'd go with O'Hare or Grealish in behind. Adomah and Snodgrass get forward and narrow enough to give Davis enough support.
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Kidknapp Christian Benteke
Rednapp?
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I think we’ll find out soon enough. Not sure Davis can play three full games in a week.
Gabby is a way off. RHM has been injured for ages. Green still a little way off.
What kind of injury has Gabby these days ?
Lazyitis. Symptoms are: can’t be arsed but I still I’ll have my full pay check’
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well the reality is we need a long term back-up not short-term with Hogan not doing anything, and Mccormack exiled. 24m or so million spent there and you'd hope normally we could get 12m of that back to get someone in January. Trouble is Bruce basically publicly dumped McCormack in the papers which is never a good idea so he's basically worthless and Hogan....well.
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I'd go with O'Hare or Grealish in behind. Adomah and Snodgrass get forward and narrow enough to give Davis enough support.
In behind who?
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Need to get a loanee in - in the January transfer box. People who are bigging the likes of McKirdy up - sorry but he is nowhere near enough to what we immediately need.
Perhaps a go at getting Benteke in may not be unrealistic. Football is a funny game.
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Form he's in I'd push Adomah up there and see what he can do.
I was torn between this and grealish false 9. I plumped for Jack but I am really intruiged to see how Albert would do centrally.
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well the reality is we need a long term back-up not short-term with Hogan not doing anything, and Mccormack exiled. 24m or so million spent there and you'd hope normally we could get 12m of that back to get someone in January. Trouble is Bruce basically publicly dumped McCormack in the papers which is never a good idea so he's basically worthless and Hogan....well.
Think short-term option in January would be the better option and then reassess in the summer. That and some CB cover are perhaps all we need in the window (Hutton has proved he is an option to cover LB if required).
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I'd go with O'Hare or Grealish in behind. Adomah and Snodgrass get forward and narrow enough to give Davis enough support.
In behind who?
Just give O'Hare and/or Grealish some license to go where they like. With Snodgrass and Adomah able to cut in. Should cause problems for teams.
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Need to get a loanee in - in the January transfer box. People who are bigging the likes of McKirdy up - sorry but he is nowhere near enough to what we immediately need.
Perhaps a go at getting Benteke in may not be unrealistic. Football is a funny game.
Isn't he literally Palace's only striker?
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I think O'hare and Grealish playing together would be a good filler. O'Hare is stocky and powerful, can hold up play and be a menace in the box (saw him singlehandedly destroy Tamworth pre-season)
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I really can’t see it - going from a big target man to a couple of number tens would be a huge shift
RHM is back in training so hopefully he’ll be in soon. But I wouldn’t count my chickens
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Even with all our options fit I think we would need to buy a good target man in January. So that's how I feel about this. Albert or Jack could do a job until then.
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Grealish for me
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Crouch in Jan
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I think O’Hare or Grealish could play up front, but would need support around them.
Lansbury pretty much played up front against us for Forest and was a lot more effective than he’s been for us.
Is Lansbury still Injured though?
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Can we get David Villa on loan in January, please? It's about time he played for us. We already named the team after him, FFS.
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I think O’Hare or Grealish could play up front, but would need support around them.
Lansbury pretty much played up front against us for Forest and was a lot more effective than he’s been for us.
Is Lansbury still Injured though?
Lansbury’s performance in that game has taken on mythical status. He did nothing all game and then stuck the ball in the net in the last minute
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Can we get David Villa on loan in January, please? It's about time he played for us. We already named the team after him, FFS.
It's time to come home
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According to the rumour mill. they are looking at some (Cheque) bloke, Davis can be managed through this season, allowing midfielders Connor especially to push up and support, playing the number 10 Grealish, O'Hare or even Albert allowed to move across all of the pitch, I honestly never see him as being a 20+ goal a season striker, but his contribution to allowing the team to form a effective way of playing could be vital, in time.
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bullshit - under FFP we'd be writing cheques we couldn't cash
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I think we’ll find out soon enough. Not sure Davis can play three full games in a week.
Gabby is a way off. RHM has been injured for ages. Green still a little way off.
What kind of injury has Gabby these days ?
Ripped calf muscle. He should be back soon and can do the job especially the way we're playing as a team at the moment.
Disagree re Gabby He is finished at the level we need to finish top 6
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Gabby could do a job for one game before he misses the next ten with "injury"
As regards serious strikers, I'd go with a loan for Defoe or Benteke in Jan.
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The answer to the question from Bruce seems to be both Adomah centrally AND Grealish out on the wing.
I wonder if he will try that for longer next game. It has potential to be good.
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Elmohamady apparently after tonight 😂😂
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The answer to the question from Bruce seems to be both Adomah centrally AND Grealish out on the wing.
I wonder if he will try that for longer next game. It has potential to be good.
By all accounts Davis was jaded last night. Would be good to have a proper alternative. We’ll definitely need one by xmas - there’s four games in 10 days then. Can’t believe I’m willing gabby to be fit again
Adomah was carrying a Knick too. So wonder if he’ll be ok for Saturday.
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Surely RHM must be close to fitness?
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he's always close to fitness
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Few loan options i would be looking at:
1) Ulloa
2) Mitrovic
3) Ings
4) Crouch
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Apart from Ulloa, I doubt if the others are very realistic possibilities, for various reasons.
But, I would add Hal Robson Kanu to that list , in style, he is like for like with Keinan, he has been a proven success at this level, and, with the Stripey´s getting a new Manager as well as, probably, new signings, he may be available.
The fact that his wife is a former Lingerie Model , has no bearing on my opinion , at all !.........Godzvilla!
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Andy Carroll loan until the end of the season? Increasingly out of favour at West Ham...
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Andy Carroll loan until the end of the season? Increasingly out of favour at West Ham...
Sure. Decent shout. I doubt West Ham will be looking to do us any more favours though, but if they are then, yeah.
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We're being linked with a Czech striker aren't we? Didn't work out too well last time (Libor suffered some really bad luck), but we'll see. I think a striker and maybe some cover at CB is all we require in January.
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Andy Carroll loan until the end of the season? Increasingly out of favour at West Ham...
No chance
He started their last game
They’re in a relegation scrap
See also Benteke
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I can't see any problem with us signing Andy Carroll given our respective records with injuries!
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Andy Carroll loan until the end of the season? Increasingly out of favour at West Ham...
No chance
He started their last game
They’re in a relegation scrap
See also Benteke
He also got booed off in their last game. He's been getting it in the neck from West Ham fans all season, add to that a new manager who is likely to make immediate changes in January and Carroll going into the last year of his contract next season. He'd be perfect in our current team if he could stay fit. Stranger things have happened.
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Andy Carroll loan until the end of the season? Increasingly out of favour at West Ham...
No chance
He started their last game
They’re in a relegation scrap
See also Benteke
He also got booed off in their last game. He's been getting it in the neck from West Ham fans all season, add to that a new manager who is likely to make immediate changes in January and Carroll going into the last year of his contract next season. He'd be perfect in our current team if he could stay fit. Stranger things have happened.
Good point AND its Moyes here. if anyone is going to be daft enough to weaken his own squad its him.
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Are we this desperate?
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Crouch on loan in January would be good I feel.
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Surely we have someone in the youth teams?
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Benik Afobe would be my punt. On-loan with a view to a permanent transfer in the summer providing we were promoted.
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Benik Afobe would be my punt. On-loan with a view to a permanent transfer in the summer providing we were promoted.
Good shout.
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If we could get him I would go for Dwight Gayle proven goalscorer at this level.
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Danny Ings would be a great signing! He's apparantly pulling up posts at the moment to get into the Liverpool team but to no avail.
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I have a problem with buying another (again) proven goal scorer S.H and R.M come to mind,
the way we play we need a bloody big shit house up front.
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Afobe or Ulloa would be decent signings. If Davis is fit, but tired, I wouldn't be averse to 20 minutes of Jedinak off the bench to rough up the defenders.
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Should it be back up for not to?
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Should it be back up for not to?
Errmmm...what?
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Surely we have someone in the youth teams?
Davis and RHM really
Don’t think McKirdy is good / ready enough from what I’ve seen
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does anyone know when our various injured will be back available ?
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does anyone know when our various injured will be back available ?
Terry & Hogan are looking to be back in January all being well. Kodjia forget about, out till April, Jedi Feb I think?
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I think whatever business we do in January has to be all about a striker. Davis isn't finished and having Hogan is more or less the same as not having Hogan.
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does anyone know when our various injured will be back available ?
Terry & Hogan are looking to be back in January all being well. Kodjia forget about, out till April, Jedi Feb I think?
thanks, going to be an interesting December.
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RHM should be sent on loan anyway, don't see him as a valid option when he does return. The break might have done Hogan good, he needed a spell out given his form.
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We just need to somehow get through December
Wil be tougher at the back end. At least for now it’s once per week
Hopefully gabby and RHM will be available towards xmas
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RHM should be sent on loan anyway, don't see him as a valid option when he does return. The break might have done Hogan good, he needed a spell out given his form.
How is it that that will help?
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I think whatever business we do in January has to be all about a striker. Davis isn't finished and having Hogan is more or less the same as not having Hogan.
Bruce pretty much said the same during the leeds presser. I reckon he has a few in mind already. Might be a loan but I think he has some targets.
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Bruce buying a striker....the mind boggles given his track record
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Bruce buying a striker....the mind boggles given his track record
Darren Bent wasnt bad
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Bruce buying a striker....the mind boggles given his track record
Darren Bent wasnt bad
Or Abel Hernandez.
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Scott Hogan's abysmal though.
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Scott Hogan's abysmal though.
He sure is! A total waste of money even by Villa's recent history.
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Hopefully gabby and RHM will be available towards xmas
On no account should that sponging toerag be even thought about, let alone be brought into the first team. I couldn't care if we ended up with having to play the academy lads. I cannot wait for the "bong-gate two" to be gone from the club, hopefully with all the other wasters!!!
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RHM should be sent on loan anyway, don't see him as a valid option when he does return. The break might have done Hogan good, he needed a spell out given his form.
How is it that that will help?
Will help get RHM get ready for the rigours of first team football surely. Don't see any benefit to him barely making squads and playing reserve football, he needs a run of consistent games.
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He hasn't been able to get a run of games because of his injury record.
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At the moment Davis is somehow getting bullied on the pitch. The rubbish referees we are experiencing in this division are not helping. We desperately need someone in with a bit more nouce who can simply shrug this office and get on with things.
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Bruce buying a striker....the mind boggles given his track record
Darren Bent wasnt bad
Or Abel Hernandez.
A £10m signing in the Championship, he hardly delivered in his first season, with 4 goals in 27 appearances, very Scott Hogan. His second was much better though, 22 goals in 45 games.
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Gabby apparently back in full training on Monday.
Yes I know. But more options can only be good.
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At the moment Davis is somehow getting bullied on the pitch. The rubbish referees we are experiencing in this division are not helping. We desperately need someone in with a bit more nouce who can simply shrug this office and get on with things.
Perhaps bullied early on but thought he did well and when he had Grealish near him seemed more potent
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When I watched the highlights I saw that he was a bit more effective than I thought
I didn’t think he was bullied. I did think his touch looked heavy and he made some tired / bad choices
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Gabby and RHM now back in training
I also wonder if Green could play there in extremis? He’s fast, quite tall, quite strong
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I think we’ll find out soon enough. Not sure Davis can play three full games in a week.
Gabby is a way off. RHM has been injured for ages. Green still a little way off.
What kind of injury has Gabby these days ?
Lazyitis. Symptoms are: can’t be arsed but I still I’ll have my full pay check’
Seems like quite a few of my colleagues suffer from this as well.
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Torn calf muscle.
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Gabby and RHM now back in training
I also wonder if Green could play there in extremis? He’s fast, quite tall, quite strong
Green's been out of ages now.
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RHM should be sent on loan anyway, don't see him as a valid option when he does return.
From the little I have seen of him, RHM looks more like a drop off type striker really and not the sort who could lead the line on his own.
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Gabby and RHM now back in training
I also wonder if Green could play there in extremis? He’s fast, quite tall, quite strong
Green's been out of ages now.
He got injured 25th August I think, so he should be back in full training after Christmas.
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The best player we have for keeping the ball is Grealish. With someone quick playing around him it could work really well and what he didn't win in the air, Elmohamady could as that was an oft used tactic.
So, switch Snodgrass to the left, Elmo on the right, Grealish and Albert in the middle.
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I'd personally keep Albert where he is now, as he's finding space and bagging.
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Gabby will be available again, so our striker crisis will soon be over
With the added bonus of him playing for his next 3 year contract
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Grealish has to start at the weekend. He looks after the ball. I would drop Onomah as a bit of a wake up call, but happily play Grealish as a false 9 and get O'hare running off him. I think it would terrorise defences.
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I really think grealish as a false 9 would be a massive risk
We’d have to change the way we play a lot, in a short space of time
Grealish does have great control but he’d need it into feet and just wouldn’t be able to do the physical hold up play that Davis does
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The ball wouldn't stick and we'd have no ability to work channels or feed in to him with his back to goal in order to bring others in to play.
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The ball wouldn't stick and we'd have no ability to work channels or feed in to him with his back to goal in order to bring others in to play.
I agree with this, and would add that he would get whacked early doors; a reducer if you will and he would likely disappear thereafter.
Attacking mid supported by robust colleagues is the best option if he starts. We still lead a lump up front based on what I have seen this season.