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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Bad English on October 31, 2017, 05:25:51 AM
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The papers speak of a defensive crisis up at Deepdale. I'm having trouble believing Bruce will go for the jugular. 1-3 to Villa in spite of his efforts.
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Taking my 4 year old to this one.
My in-laws all support PNE and last year was embarrassing - We need to put it right this year. I think we will win comfortably by at least a two goal margin.
3-0 to the Villa with Terry, Adomah and Davis getting the goals.
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An away win is required after dropping two points in Bordesley Green. This will also help exorcise memories of that game when RDM was in charge.
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They're not in great form, we need to win this.
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Hopefully sneak a 1-0 win here. Davis with the goal.
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0-0
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We just simply have to win this one going for 0-2 although I suspect it won’t be easy
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on the TV and they are in poor form...what could possibly go wrong....
hopefully something to nil to the Villa
UTV
The Doc
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5-2 to us. Devey (2) Cowan (2) Hodgetts.
Not so invincible now eh ?
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I was there last Thursday. I should've just queued up!
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1-1 bore draw
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Would like to see two up for this game, give Hogan a start alongside Davis if Kodjia is out for a couple of games.
Think Taylor is available again, think Hutton deserves to retain the shirt.
Please pick an attacking bench also - Samba, De Laet, Jedinak, Taylor or Hutton & Bjarnasson is the bench of a bottler - 3 proper attackers please
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Win, scrappy, 2-0 Villa, early goal, then we hang on and a second on or around 70mins :)
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Still knackered.
2-0 to them.
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0-0 or 1-1.
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They are only two points behind Villa, goals for/against 19/14 while Villa's are 19/13, so likely to be a tight game.
They might not have won since 5 games ago, but with Bruce's style of play away from B6, I'm expecting a draw might be the best we will achieve.
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Just up the road and would normally jump at the chance to attend - went last season and have bad memories of the performance on the day.
Cant motivate myself to go and watch this current team under such a dire manager - to those making the trip I wish you well and hope you see a convincing win, but my head says another 0-0
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Could well be another 0-0 this one.
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Yeah 0-0.
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0-0 or 1-0 to Preston with the ex Villa player scoring. It will be tedious.
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They're at sixes and sevens at the back with injuries.
I imagine we will go with the same back 5, and then Jedinak and Whelan with Snodgrass, Hourihane and Adomah and Davis up top.
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I'm going for a 2-0 win we really need to win this.
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Preston have numerous injuries and a small squad. They've conceded 11 goals in 5 games and on a really poor run after a great start to the season. Their central defenders are make shift, the only real thing that we'll have to fear from Preston is they work bloody hard and press. We really couldn't have chosen a better time to play them.
Nothing less than 3 points will be acceptable.
0-2 Villa
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They looked the better team against Barcehampton the other week, despite losing. Not too confident about this one.
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I haven't really taken too much notice of their results or seen them play this season but it would be nice to not only get the win but to make up for last season's woeful display up there.
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If SB has done any homework he will know their injury list and pick a team to run at them - but we are all fearful that he has already said "They have had longer to prepare than us" means it will be the usual boredom of sit back and hope to nick a goal
The U23's whacked Newcastle last night with O'Hare getting a hat trick and Lansbury starring and scoring
Come on Brucey freshen it up and give them a chance
Although Hutton has done ok he still leaves huge space when he attempts to go forward and even the dog shits manager stated this as a weak point they wanted to exploit on Sunday. Play the right players in their right positions so Taylor comes in for me.
Although not a great player Whelan was really in a war on Sunday so in should come Jedinak.
I would drop Snodgrass as I think he is shit and too much of a passenger.
If he intend to play Hogan then at least play him off Davies to give the guy a fighting chance
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They've only got one fit centre half so if we have a go there could be a few goals in it for us. Can't see that though. Bore draw.
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No need to play Whelan and Jedinak, I'd like to see Hourihane pushed further forward. I'd leave out Snodgrass too.
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This is a good test. We need to go in positively and aggressively at PNE.
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Preston are pish at the moment.
This has to be, and will be, a win to the Villa boys!*
(*IF Bruce can bother his arse to go for a win, instead of a draw)
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Draw. We're a solid side but can't see us putting a long run of wins together.
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I haven't really taken too much notice of their results or seen them play this season but it would be nice to not only get the win but to make up for last season's woeful display up there.
Yes last season was appalling. The second half did for RDM, as it was the worst, most unhinged display I've seen since the Bradford semi-final.
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Draw. We're a solid side but can't see us putting a long run of wins together.
I'm with you, Deano. I wouldn't be disappointed with a point tonight, although we could certainly do with a positive reaction after Sunday's dour display. I can but live in hope.
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Draw. We're a solid side but can't see us putting a long run of wins together.
I'm with you, Deano. I wouldn't be disappointed with a point tonight, although we could certainly do with a positive reaction after Sunday's dour display. I can but live in hope.
Zero chance we'll win, or even draw tonight.
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Draw. We're a solid side but can't see us putting a long run of wins together.
I'm with you, Deano. I wouldn't be disappointed with a point tonight, although we could certainly do with a positive reaction after Sunday's dour display. I can but live in hope.
Zero chance we'll win, or even draw tonight.
That's typical of a Steve Bruce side. Only capable of getting a result when they are actually playing. Disgraceful.
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Draw. We're a solid side but can't see us putting a long run of wins together.
I'm with you, Deano. I wouldn't be disappointed with a point tonight, although we could certainly do with a positive reaction after Sunday's dour display. I can but live in hope.
Zero chance we'll win, or even draw tonight.
Chin up, Pete. Football's a funny ol' game. ;)
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Draw. We're a solid side but can't see us putting a long run of wins together.
I'm with you, Deano. I wouldn't be disappointed with a point tonight, although we could certainly do with a positive reaction after Sunday's dour display. I can but live in hope.
Zero chance we'll win, or even draw tonight.
Chin up, Pete. Football's a funny ol' game. ;)
I think the comment may refer to the fact we don't play tonight
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Draw. We're a solid side but can't see us putting a long run of wins together.
I'm with you, Deano. I wouldn't be disappointed with a point tonight, although we could certainly do with a positive reaction after Sunday's dour display. I can but live in hope.
Zero chance we'll win, or even draw tonight.
Chin up, Pete. Football's a funny ol' game. ;)
I think the comment may refer to the fact we don't play tonight
D'oh! :-[
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Is Grealish fit again? Does anyone think he might feature?
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Is Grealish fit again? Does anyone think he might feature?
Interesting idea. Preston are probably one of the better sides for him to play against. According to Bruce last week he has played 3 reserve or training games. So maybe?
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I wouldn't want Hogan to play if he's going to be asked to track back on the left side of midfield - what an utter waste of time.
JG, if selected really needs to start to take games by the scruff off the neck and stop showboating
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Hard fought 0-1 to the mighty mighty villa.
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Is Grealish fit again? Does anyone think he might feature?
Played 75 minutes against Newcastle on Monday I think.
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Really could do with a win
Quite a few choices to make for first time in a while:
Taylor back?
Jedinak to start?
Who alongside him?
Snodgrass rested?
Hogan or Onomah?
O'Hare or Grealish on the bench?
I think we need a combo of physical strength and going for the jugular. The easy thing to say is that means 442. But that's not always the case.
I'd definitely have at least one of O'Hare and grealish on the bench, replacing Thor and Kodjia in the squad
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Really could do with a win
Quite a few choices to make for first time in a while:
Taylor back?
Jedinak to start?
Who alongside him?
Snodgrass rested?
Hogan or Onomah?
O'Hare or Grealish on the bench?
I think we need a combo of physical strength and going for the jugular. The easy thing to say is that means 442. But that's not always the case.
I'd definitely have at least one of O'Hare and grealish on the bench, replacing Thor and Kodjia in the squad
Who is not fit.
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Really could do with a win
Quite a few choices to make for first time in a while:
Taylor back?
Jedinak to start?
Who alongside him?
Snodgrass rested?
Hogan or Onomah?
O'Hare or Grealish on the bench?
I think we need a combo of physical strength and going for the jugular. The easy thing to say is that means 442. But that's not always the case.
I'd definitely have at least one of O'Hare and grealish on the bench, replacing Thor and Kodjia in the squad
Who is not fit.
Now she’s a woman Who wouldn’t be eligible to play anyway.
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I liked how we looked when Jedinak came on against the filth, I'd go:
(http://i65.tinypic.com/2re4lzc.jpg)
0-2 or 1-3.
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It is true that they have some issues with their defence at the moment, but I'm not sure how people are coming up with the idea that they are in such a terrible run of form. Last weekend's result was a bad one, but the weekend before they lost at Woves by a smaller margin and with a much better performance than we put up there.
Prior to that - a draw away at Fulham and, during the previous month a good win at Blues, and a 3 goal win over Cardiff. Although, a draw at home to Sunderland was disappointing.
I have seen them live a couple of times and they have a distinct style of play, good team spirit, and attack quickly. I'd expect them to be coming out fighting on the back of 2 straight defeats that've dropped them out of the playoff places, especially against us, as its a 6 pointer in that respect.
Overall, they've dropped a few points in a disappointing fashion recently, but haven't we all? Same as last season - don't underestimate #teamslikepreston
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Last season they ran and kicked us off the park. It was embarrassing.
We need to match their commitment and have Davis cause havoc amongst their make shift back four. They're conceding very soft goals of late and injuries should amplify this.
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I’d like us to go hell for leather and stick 6 past them. But I can see a draw and we go again with Bruce.
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Sounds like they have half of their Defence out injured and their captain is suspended.
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I liked how we looked when Jedinak came on against the filth, I'd go:
(http://i65.tinypic.com/2re4lzc.jpg)
0-2 or 1-3.
I wonder if he will stick with Hutton? Apart from that yes I see that team. Wouldn't mind Lansbury in for Whelan.
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Last season they ran and kicked us off the park. It was embarrassing.
We need to match their commitment and have Davis cause havoc amongst their make shift back four. They're conceding very soft goals of late and injuries should amplify this.
That Pearson in the middle is a niggly fecker but a good midfield player. Same for Daniel Johnson who'll be up for it as will Robinson if he gets a start.
PNE had a fantastic start to the season but defensively they've struggled recently and as others have said will have a very makeshift defence out tomorrow.
Won't be straightforward of course as we're not a team that attempts to play on the front foot for large spells of games. PNE have also scored 8 goals in their last 4 so another test for our defence which is looking rock solid now.
I'll go for a narrow 1-2 win.
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I liked how we looked when Jedinak came on against the filth, I'd go:
(http://i65.tinypic.com/2re4lzc.jpg)
0-2 or 1-3.
Odonah on the right wing! Are you Steve Bruce? Tactics Dim strikes again.
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I liked how we looked when Jedinak came on against the filth, I'd go:
(http://i65.tinypic.com/2re4lzc.jpg)
0-2 or 1-3.
I wonder if he will stick with Hutton? Apart from that yes I see that team. Wouldn't mind Lansbury in for Whelan.
Aye, I would go with Hutton. Maybe even start Snodgrass as well.
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Need the win Villa, go get it Bruce.
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Last night's results give this game more significance, with Sheff Utd and Leeds losing and Derby and Boro winning.
I'd be disappointed to see both Whelan and Jedi starting because it would signal a draw-intent. get some youth alongside Jedi to start ...
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Preston have been scoring and conceding a lot. Think they've scored 2 in 5 of their last 7. But also conceded at least 2 several times of late
I think that team line up above looks solid, but very one paced in central midfield. If he does pair Jedinak and Whelan I'd have thought Onomah would play the 10 role
I reckon he could play Elmo right mid and rest Snodgrass
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Sounds like they have half of their Defence out injured and their captain is suspended.
Yeah I think four centre halves injured
We must avoid sitting back too much. Maybe Onomah and hourihane breaking to support Davis would work
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Last night's results give this game more significance, with Sheff Utd and Leeds losing and Derby and Boro winning.
I'd be disappointed to see both Whelan and Jedi starting because it would signal a draw-intent. get some youth alongside Jedi to start ...
This for me...the results at the weekend gave us the opportunity to make some ground with a win but also meant that a draw wasn't the end of the world - we need to match the pacesetters wins last night tonight so we stay ahead of Derby and Boro as well, so it is a bit of a must win I think.
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Really could do with a win
Quite a few choices to make for first time in a while:
Taylor back?
Jedinak to start?
Who alongside him?
Snodgrass rested?
Hogan or Onomah?
O'Hare or Grealish on the bench?
I think we need a combo of physical strength and going for the jugular. The easy thing to say is that means 442. But that's not always the case.
I'd definitely have at least one of O'Hare and grealish on the bench, replacing Thor and Kodjia in the squad
Who is not fit.
Who's on First
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Really could do with a win
Quite a few choices to make for first time in a while:
Taylor back?
Jedinak to start?
Who alongside him?
Snodgrass rested?
Hogan or Onomah?
O'Hare or Grealish on the bench?
I think we need a combo of physical strength and going for the jugular. The easy thing to say is that means 442. But that's not always the case.
I'd definitely have at least one of O'Hare and grealish on the bench, replacing Thor and Kodjia in the squad
Who is not fit.
Who's on First
O'Hare deserves a place on the bench.
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Really could do with a win
Quite a few choices to make for first time in a while:
Taylor back?
Jedinak to start?
Who alongside him?
Snodgrass rested?
Hogan or Onomah?
O'Hare or Grealish on the bench?
I think we need a combo of physical strength and going for the jugular. The easy thing to say is that means 442. But that's not always the case.
I'd definitely have at least one of O'Hare and grealish on the bench, replacing Thor and Kodjia in the squad
Who is not fit.
Who's on First
O'Hare deserves a place on the bench.
I agree totally he deserves a place on the bench and some game time after his performances this season for the U23's promising player we have on our hands.
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Ohare should be ahead of Hogan, he is a better footballer.
We have to win if e are still thinking of top 2.
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Ohare should be ahead of Hogan, he is a better footballer.
We have to win if e are still thinking of top 2.
We have to win if we are serious about playoffs never mind top 2.
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Ohare should be ahead of Hogan, he is a better footballer.
We have to win if e are still thinking of top 2.
We have to win if we are serious about playoffs never mind top 2.
A formula of home win followed by away draw will be good enough for top 6 I'd imagine. We're on course to average 75 points I think which is usually enough.
Need to step it up for top 2 though.
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1-0 to us or to them. I'm undecided. It won't be pretty, but I'd imagine all the football will be played by them, sadly.
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2 questions
1/ Any team news (Kodja / Grealish etc)?
2/ Any suggestions for pre match drink near ground?
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2 questions
1/ Any team news (Kodja / Grealish etc)?
2/ Any suggestions for pre match drink near ground?
Station Hotel opposite the train station is a decent boozer from my experience waiting for trains in the past.
Last season when I went up there I just stayed in the pubs they have up Friargate near the UCE. Adelphi, Roper Hall, Old Black bull etc. Bit of a walk to Deepdale from there though.
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2-0 Preston
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I liked how we looked when Jedinak came on against the filth, I'd go:
(http://i65.tinypic.com/2re4lzc.jpg)
0-2 or 1-3.
Odonah on the right wing! Are you Steve Bruce? Tactics Dim strikes again.
Whelan out of that line up, Onomah in his place and Snodgrass on the right (even though I think he has been quite poor recently). Bench would be:
Steer, Hutton, Samba, Whelan, Lansbury, O'Hare, Hogan
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Any H and V ers there early I will be vacating the twelve tellers for pre match tea. I'll be easily spotted with the 4 kids.
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Just got my tickets, will be in the Preston family stand with my 4 year old. Last season he really enjoyed the match (his first game) even if I didn't! Hopefully this time my little boy comes away wanting to support Villa.
PNE are a solid team, but have injuries. We should be comfortably beating them if we have automatic promotion ambitions.
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A big game in this household too but not heading up there til a bit later yet! I need us to win this time or he'll be unbearable, or more unbearable than usual!
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Sounds like Preston will be putting out a real makeshift defence tonight. Hopefully we can cash in.
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If Bruce sends the team or trying to win I think we will. If he sends us out not to lose we likely will.
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I liked how we looked when Jedinak came on against the filth, I'd go:
(http://i65.tinypic.com/2re4lzc.jpg)
0-2 or 1-3.
Odonah on the right wing! Are you Steve Bruce? Tactics Dim strikes again.
Whelan out of that line up, Onomah in his place and Snodgrass on the right (even though I think he has been quite poor recently). Bench would be:
Steer, Hutton, Samba, Whelan, Lansbury, O'Hare, Hogan
Agreed, Tom. Whelan deserves a rest. Onomah in his best position alongside Jedi but with the freedom to get forward. Hourihane's threat is wasted by Bruce when he plays him so deep. Undecided between Hutton and Taylor. Preston work extremely hard, get in your face and press superbly. Even with their dodgy defence we'll need every player to be right up for it and as fighters go, they don't come more determined than Hutton. If Bruce goes with Taylor I really hope he goes out there with a point to prove.
Squad wise we have an embarrassment of riches but tonight we need to show the battling side of our game as we did against Fulham, as well as the talent, not the half asleep, tackle dodging, hoofing we saw against the Rags. It should be a cracking game I just hope Bruce can send the team out to win and come back down the M6 with 3 points.
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Is there no TV for this match because of the Champions League matches?
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Is there no TV for this match because of the Champions League matches?
It’s live on Sky.
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Would take a scrappy 1-0 win tonight.
Hopefully we go 442 with Davis and Hogan up top.
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Johnstone
Elmo
Chester
Terry
Hutton
Adomah
Jedinak
Hourihane
Snodgrass
Hogan
Davis
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Is there no TV for this match because of the Champions League matches?
It’s live on Sky.
Arse. No AVTV then I suppose :/
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We need to win this game.
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we do but a point gets us back into the top six
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Them 1 Us 3
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Davis in for Jimmy and that's it
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1-2 Davis and Snodgrass to score.
Come on VILLLLAAA!!
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Disappointing with an opportunity to freshen up after limited rest there's only 1 change
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That bench is cowardly
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my thoughts too Gareth 3 defenders plus Jedi is a joke
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Exactly, can’t see Bjarnasson as anything other than a defensive midfield option either, not an ounce of creation if it is going wrong, that 11 make it happen or we lose!
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Don't tell us (the team/squad), show us!
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Awful negative team line up.
Bench of
2 full backs
1 centre half
1 x holding MR
Win or fuck off bruce
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I'd have had at least 2 of Grealish Lansbury and O Hare on the bench
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Don't tell us (the team/squad), show us!
Johnstone, Elmohamady, Terry, Chester, Hutton, Snodgrass, Whelan, Hourihane, Adomah, Onomah, Davis.
Subs: Steer, Samba, De Laet, Taylor, Jedinak, Bjarnason, Hogan.
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my thoughts too Gareth 3 defenders plus Jedi is a joke
2 defenders and 2 forwards ..... he'll be classing samba as an 85th min sub up front to get on end of long ball for equaliser !😜
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4-5-1
1 attacking player on the bench
Bjarnason over O'Hare
All against a team missing half a defence. Boring bastard.
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That bench is cowardly
I’m sick of that phrase. It’s not cowardly it’s what the manager thinks is right with the resources available. He’s not going to include players who have been out for months and played on Monday is he?
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Why would you need 3 defenders, a goalkeeper and a defensive midfielder on the bench? What a fucking fanny.
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Maybe his plan is to push Hutton & Elmo forward and running in the first half to get a lead then replace one (or both) in the second depending who tires early?
Anyways I am fine with the starting line up at least, assuming Kodjia is injured.
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I don't agree chrisw1 as O hare has not been out for months and could easily play the last 30 mins or so if needed
An infuriating selection of subs !
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Why not? Someone who played an hour on Monday is perfectly capable of 15 mins if needed on Wednesday.
He has 7 subs - he has selected 5 options to shore it up & 1 to try and change it positively.