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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: PeterWithesShin on October 29, 2017, 11:02:00 AM
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As much as I hate playing with 1 striker, that’s pretty solid.
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As I expected.
Now let's hope Hourihane and Onomah are given good licence to break into their box.
If they're just told to sit alongside Whelan we know the Bruce mindset today.
Jota is starting for them btw. Hope Whelan is on it as he demolished us at Brentford.
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Please win Villa.
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Their official Twitter page is constantly using the hashtag "OurCityIsBlue!" the small time gimps.
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Clearly, our "The City Is Ours" chant hasn't got to them. At all.
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As I expected.
Now let's hope Hourihane and Onomah are given good licence to break into their box.
If they're just told to sit alongside Whelan we know the Bruce mindset today.
Jota is starting for them btw. Hope Whelan is on it as he demolished us at Brentford.
Onomah was almost playing as an extra forward at times last week.
I'm happy with the team, it looks ok and a decent bench too.
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Please win indeed Villa
They're 433 too...I thought Bruce would match them up,especially as we looked a threat last week with the same formation.We'll win this if we can control possession.
Surprised Grealish hasn't made the bench..Think we'll be scratching around for creativity off the bench if we need it..Pleased to see Jedinak back on there though.
Let's ensure there's 11 of us at the end..Aggressive but nothing that's going to play into their hands.
Come on me babbies!
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Can we please keep noses off this thread? Pages and pages of back and forths get tedious.
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Just win Villa please, do not care how but just do!
If any of you kind folk could PM me a link I’d be truly grateful.
Come on the mighty Villa!!!
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That's exactly the line up I wanted. Come on Villa!!
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Just win. Please. I hate this fixture.
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Can we please keep noses off this thread? Pages and pages of back and forths get tedious.
Yes please.
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With Halloween coming up I went to a fancy dress shop to buy a Dracula costume.
The girl offered me a Birmingham City shirt.
I said to her "Sorry love, I think you misheard, I said I want to look like a count."
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With Halloween coming up I went to a fancy dress shop to buy a Dracula costume.
The girl offered me a Birmingham City shirt.
I said to her "Sorry love, I think you misheard, I said I want to look like a count."
Superb! going on my FB now! haha
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I utterly hate this fixture...wish they'd scuttle off to their natural habitat of Div 2 and playing up at smalltime seaside resorts..
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Jota was a tidy player at Brentford, hope he's shit forever with them. They were fucking dump against Millwall....watch NDoye turn in to De Bruyne today.
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Is that a septic tank next to the corner flag!?
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I utterly hate this fixture...wish they'd scuttle off to their natural habitat of Div 2 and playing up at smalltime seaside resorts..
They are in their Division 2. Did you forget we got relegated?
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They will raise their game, it's their world cup final, we already know that. We also know they are shit, we've beaten them 8 of the last 12 times, let's not make out they become decent against us, they're still have, have always been shit and always will be shit. They are the shit. Let's put them to bed with a smacked arse today. A tough game, but we have strong, experienced players. Villa by the odd goal.
Shame it won't be Gabby to make the defeat complete.
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They will raise their game, it's their world cup final, we already know that. We also know they are shit, we've beaten them 8 of the last 12 times, let's not make out they become decent against us, they still are shit, have always been shit and always will be shit. They are the shit. Let's put them to bed with a smacked arse today. A tough game, but we have strong, experienced players. Villa by the odd goal.
Shame it won't be Gabby to make the defeat complete.
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With Halloween coming up I went to a fancy dress shop to buy a Dracula costume.
The girl offered me a Birmingham City shirt.
I said to her "Sorry love, I think you misheard, I said I want to look like a count."
Ker-Boom, Tish. ;)
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I get the feeling they're due one today. Mind you, I'm always the same about this fixture.
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I get the feeling they're due one today. Mind you, I'm always the same about this fixture.
I agree. They are due a thrashing.
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Ignoring the opposition, this is an important game to establish ourselves in the promotion pack.
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If there's one disappointment about the 18 is Grealish not being on the bench although it's understandable. He'd have loved to have come on and scored.
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Ignoring the opposition, this is an important game to establish ourselves in the promotion pack.
That's a very good point which understandably has been forgotten.
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Fans can go mental our players need to stay calm and professional and wil this.
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If there's one disappointment about the 18 is Grealish not being on the bench although it's understandable. He'd have loved to have come on and scored.
He's be more use than Bjarnason.
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These matches are never pretty, hold on tight....
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We are in black today then?
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Good job they opened up that top-tier of the railway end...titter
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Could I get a PM please?...
Thanks in advance, UTV!!
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Good morning, gents.
Let's hope we go at them and show what we're capable of. Three points. Nothing less.
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Good job they opened up that top-tier of the railway end...titter
The Titter End
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Could I get a PM please?...
Thanks in advance, UTV!!
ESPN 3 on internet
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Fuck ‘em, Villa.
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Chester’s distribution is woeful at the moment
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Think our defence will have one of their toughest games today.
Will be impressed if we keep a clean sheet.
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We look like a bunch of individuals hoping for space rather than looking for it.
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Does Whelan ever check his studs?!
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Afternoon. Sorry I'm late, I forgot to put my clock back.
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John Terry close. We look decent early on.
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Afternoon. Sorry I'm late, I forgot to put my clock back.
Take it back now and apologise to the shop staff please.
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Animals lobbing stuff at Snodgrass
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Blues are so prone to make mistakes, we just have to keep putting them under fire and we can run this lot into the ground...
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AEM and Adams booked.
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Animals lobbing stuff at Snodgrass
No change there. None
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As long as Snodrass doesn’t get sent off
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Come on you wankers just fucking score! ;-)
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Them happy clapper things are just missiles. Great idea, Birmingham Directors.
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It appears the 12-fingered mob couldn't work out how to use their clappers correctly. The tossers. ::)
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There is no doubt Jota is a good player. God knows why he chose to go there
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Giving Jota a bit too much space.
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Whelan is absolutely shit - lucky he hasn't cost a goal yet. Typical performance from him
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Doesn't sound great. Come on Villa.
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Whelan is absolutely shit - lucky he hasn't cost a goal yet. Typical performance from him
He’s fucking awful.
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First goal will decide this game.
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Every time we have knocked it in the air it has come straight back
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Kods shirt already shredded...
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First goal will decide this game.
Can you PM a link RCF? thank you mate!
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I don't think the ref did himself any favours by showing a couple of yellow cards for that pushing and shoving match. For me he has just put pressure on himself for the rest of the game by doing that.
As for the clappers, the first rule of parenting is not giving toys to kids who aren't at the stage of their development to play with them nicely and properly.
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Snodgrass and Whelan, absolute gash.
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First goal will decide this game.
Agree
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Play it to feet ffs Villa
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Not exactly good football is it
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Lots of long ball deployed so far - Birmingham with 14 to Villa's 19.
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From the Beeb. After 22 mins
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Book the prick then.
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How the fuck was that not a yellow card?
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Kodja doesn't like to pass does he
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Villa are crying out for a player like Hotter.
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These are fcukin shit yet we are as well.
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Our mental strength is a lot better these days no question
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Our excuse is that 1.00PM (actual) is too early to start playing our free flowing football.
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Josh not tracking back there
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Onomah touched the ball yet?
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Giving them too many chances, good job they’re shit.
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Jesus!
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We're lacking composure on the ball.
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Jesus Sam!
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I'd like to see Davis on 2nd half. We don't look threatening at all right now. All hit and hope.
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Jesus...
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Villa are crying out for a player like Hotter.
Best player on the pitch
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We're lacking composure on the ball.
Should have signed him when he was available on free transfer.
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Giving them too many chances, good job they’re shit.
Yeah, but they are getting more confident
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They're passing it through us far too easily.
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What does Snodgrass do exactly? I think with all the farty performances from Jack, he would take Snoddys place in the team for me, just a shit Stewart Downing.
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Villa are crying out for a player like Hotter.
Best player on the pitch
Easily.
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The Hutton reducer
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Why don't we try and pass it through them? That might help, Brucie
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They've really come onto this last 5 mins. They are sorting to believe you can see.
Jota is the best player out there by a mile so far. We need to stay solid and stay patient.
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What does Snodgrass do exactly? I think with all the farty performances from Jack, he would take Snoddys place in the team for me, just a shit Stewart Downing.
Jack is a shitter Downing at the minute i suppose
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They are winning the battle in midfield and we are not holding it up front.
Bruce needs to change this.
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Fuck me, MON's bird.
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Midfield far too deep
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See MON’s at the game.
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What does Snodgrass do exactly? I think with all the farty performances from Jack, he would take Snoddys place in the team for me, just a shit Stewart Downing.
Jack is a shitter Downing at the minute i suppose
I dunno mate, Snoddy is awful. For a wide man with apparent great delivery and set pieces I haven't seen it once since he's been here.
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Feck me, that was close. :o
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Christ we give the ball away a lot.
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This is all the draggers at the moment.
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Because we are too much hoofball.
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Last 5 or 10 mins we've been crap. Jota miles better than anyone else on the pitch.
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Lets hope this is our poor half.
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No shape, no passing awful
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Can we please have ONE attack with some intent before the break please?
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The trouble is we have gifted players, but there's no strategy for how they're meant to move in the final third. So they pick up the ball, dwell on it, contemplate trying to Maradona through the Blues defence, turn around and pass it to the only player we have in space - a defender. There's just no fecking plan.
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If Snodgrass is a Scottish international there's hope for my mother.God rest her soul.
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Good, the nippy twat is off.
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Vassell injured.
Think the SHA intensity and pressing has been too much for us first half.
Got to think there's no chance that can last all second half so hopefully we can get more space and actually create something.
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Pretty typical Bruce performance so far, disjointed and ponderous.
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The big man will suit Terry better
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We arec2 against 3 in centre mid.
It’s so fukin obvious that we need to change our shape.
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Good to see the fans of the team that carry the name of the city impressing the TV and radio pundits with their missile throwing. I hope they get fined.
I liked the smirk on the face of Hutton after he hurt Vassell. He did make half an attempt to hide it by wiping his face with his shirt.
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The trouble is we have gifted players, but there's no strategy for how they're meant to move in the final third. So they pick up the ball, dwell on it, contemplate trying to Maradona through the Blues defence, turn around and pass it to the only player we have in space - a defender. There's just no fecking plan.
You sound surprised, Monty.
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The trouble is we have gifted players, but there's no strategy for how they're meant to move in the final third. So they pick up the ball, dwell on it, contemplate trying to Maradona through the Blues defence, turn around and pass it to the only player we have in space - a defender. There's just no fecking plan.
You sound surprised, Monty.
Shocked, *shocked* to find there is gambling going on here.
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Really have to step it up second half otherwise we'll lose this 1-0.
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Anyone here who wouldn't take a 0-0 right now, if offered?
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We started off ok but have let it become a battle. We are too slow in midfield for their pressing game. I think we need Davis on for his hold up play, players will get around him.
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We've come for the draw.
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God awful as usual. Get Davis on.
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"Birmingham now have to remember they can't play the ball up to Vassell now he has gone off". Even the co-commentator knows they are f*ckwits.
It has been an even first half for me. If we aren't careful they might get a point that could be the one that keeps them up.
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If we on here have figured out that our front players aren't going to be winning high balls vs those centre backs, why can't our defence and midfield see it? Is deliberately playing for 2nd ball scraps / lucky bounces a tactic?
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Well that was pretty ordinary. No flow at all we just play hoof ball and rarely win the second ball. Blose probably looked the slightly better of 2 shit teams.
Oh and the atmosphere sounds crap aswell.
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Wolves revisited bar the first 10 mins
Does Kodija ever pass?
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Worst half of football I've seen since I don't know when.
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three or four good defensive blocks in that half
Jotta and Vassel were better than Kodja and Albert, but Vasells gone off now so that should help us
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Utter turd from Villa. Sort it out Bruce, FFS!
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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This is where Bruce has to earn his money as manager.
If we carry on this way we lose.
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Worst half of football I've seen since I don't know when.
Villa Blose at VP in April was far, far worse
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We started off ok but have let it become a battle. We are too slow in midfield for their pressing game. I think we need Davis on for his hold up play, players will get around him.
Probably a good call
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Anyone here who wouldn't take a 0-0 right now, if offered?
The Johnson deflected kick was a warning, I can easily see them winning by a flukey goal and/or defensive brain-lapse on our side. We need to really start pinning them back and not let them grow in confidence in front of their own fans.
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He's going Samba in the 80th minute, I just know it.
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Worst half of football I've seen since I don't know when.
Villa Blose at VP in April was far, far worse
Since then
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Crap so far. It's dreadful having Bruce as manager. So uninspiring.
Long ball after long ball. We might aswell not have a midfield.
Need a much improved second half.
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Hoof, lose the ball. Hoof, lose the ball.
Come on Bruce, we have some decent players.
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Well that was pretty ordinary. No flow at all we just play hoof ball and rarely win the second ball. Blose probably looked the slightly better of 2 shit teams.
Oh and the atmosphere sounds crap aswell.
The atmosphere might have actually been better if that lot had kept hold of there happy clappy toy things. I'm guessing they gave up when they either couldn't read the instructions or couldn't work it out as there weren't any.
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That was dreadful.
Get Whelan off for Davis and go for it. Small Heath are shit.
"Your fucking clappers, they're claret and blue"
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Kodija went missing in this fixture last season once he'd been clattered. This time round he hasn't waited. Mind you, much the same could be said for a number of others.
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Whelan looks every minute of his age out there.
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A bit shit but we will nick it 1-0
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I’m doing my best not to criticise Bruce every game but for the majority we play awful under him considering the squad we have. Dinosaur manager playing dinosaur football. Surely can’t be as bad in the second half?
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As expected it's a bit shit on quality. We need to start passing better in the second half.
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I thought Whelan started poorly but then got better
We've started playing very directly and it's not suiting Kodjia or Onomah
We either need to change that tactic or get Davis on
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The first 10-15 minutes were alright.
The next 30 we spent lumping it long. What's the point in that? This squad is 10x as good as theirs, but we are getting dragged down to their level, and Bruce is making that happen.
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That was a pile of Bruce.
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That was poor from us. Hardly any attacking presence.
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We've come for the draw.
It's sad isn't it.
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So we can all see this isn’t working,
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We started off ok but have let it become a battle. We are too slow in midfield for their pressing game. I think we need Davis on for his hold up play, players will get around him.
Probably a good call
Spot on assessment. Started pretty well but then haven't competed after that. Kodjia getting bullied again by their centre halves, though the ref is letting them get away with quite a bit. We just look slow and lethargic, summed up by Johnstone's near mishap.
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We've come for the draw.
It's sad isn't it.
Given we've had over a year of SB now I'm still amazed posters on here expressed bemusement when we approach away games in this manner.
It's our default setting under him.
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Why oh why can we not play passing football and capitalise on the clear superiority of our players??!
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Is that a giant bog-roll on the pitch?
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Why oh why can we not play passing football and capitalise on the clear superiority of our players??!
Because our manager is a dinosaur.
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When was the last time a team wore their away kick in this fixture? Seems a bit odd to me we had to play in Black today when regular colours haven't been an issue in 100 years in this fixture.
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Hourihane been shite today aswell, Jota should've buried that.
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Jesus Christ Hourihane
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For fucks sake
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This negative, backwards and sideways shit nearly cost us big time.
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We were the better team by far first 20 minutes or so, then we gradually let them bypass midfield and started to look abject.
Hourihane has been good for us, as have Hutton Terry and Chester. I'd be tempeted to bring off Whelan and Kodjia for Jedi and Davis.
Jota is annoyingly good for them.
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Suicidal
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Is that a giant bog-roll on the pitch?
No, it’s Steve Bruce.
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Jesus!
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Wake up Villa Ffs
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Mr Bruce did a good job at half time ....
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Just what the fuck are we doing here.
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We should be 2 down. This is unacceptably shit.
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Absolutely atrocious football. God alone knows how Jota missed that.
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We're bottling this. You should have the mindset of murder in these games....like Dion did.
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Terrible. Get the ball down and start playing
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Play football Bruce.
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I think that passage of 'football' pretty much sums up the match.
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Are our lot totally incapable of making space for themselves, and then using it?
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Pissing around at the back like we are Brazil.
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It's coming ... we're still in the changing rooms mentally.
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The disgraceful tactics of a coward.
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Ffs Bruce do do something
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I just think we’re awful.
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If we carry on as we are we'll surely lose.
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We don't look too arsed about this
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We need to switch on, I think half the team are still in the dressing room having a cup of tea.
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Ok get Davis on now, fucking garbage, no build up play, slow ponderous sideways shit that is now playing us in to trouble because no one is up and at it and looking to put some energy in to moving forwards. We are going to lose this soon unless we make the change.
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Fuck sake Bruce, show some intent you coward! this is shite!
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Playing not to lose against this lot. Joke.
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N'Doye should've been red carded for that. Dirty, dirty B'stard.
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wasn't there a stat about number of goals we concede 45-60mins - whatever happens in the dressing room is shit.
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Get big Mile on.
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Ref's on telly syndrome
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Just the usual after half time talk. I'd take a draw now as we are abysmal
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Get big Mile on.
Yeah, I would.
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Wolves all over again
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The rags actually look like a better team than us, just think about that.
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What the fuck did Bruce say to 'em at half-time? This is truly atrocious.
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This is abysmal We are just not attempting to play football at all
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This is where Bruce is at his weakest
His mentality will be to see out the pressure
A top manager would be more proactive. It's not working
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How long is the owner going to put up with this crap level of football?
We might be in a play off position, but the type of football Bruce is getting the team to play will have us relegated straight back down next season
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How many more warnings do you need Bruce, the next will be a goal.
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Bruce really is a coward away from home. We have all the weapons to win games like this and yet he plays for the draw or tries to nick it on the break instead of having the balls to be aggressive. At home he’ll play for the win and away shows little ambition. It’s the Bruce way as we grind our way through the season.
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This is like watching two teams in the relegation zone with one already relegated.
Wake up, Villa ffs.
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Blues getting players forward. Bruce scared to do that.
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That injury wa timely, they had their tails up
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This is appalling
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Is there nobody in the side who can just bring the ball down and pass it?
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When those clappers get thrown at players lying injured on the pitch, I do wish the TV cameras focussed on the throwers rather than be diverted away.
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Diabolical start to the second half. We're like zombies out there.
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How the fuck are we not 4 down?
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This is where Bruce is at his weakest
His mentality will be to see out the pressure
A top manager would be more proactive. It's not working
When was the last time the opposition were on top and Bruce made a change that positively affected the game?
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Davis and Jedi now, come on Stevie.
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Snodgrass was brought in to create and score....when will he start?
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He simply has to change this.
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It's like watching a parallel dimension where everything's made of shit.
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Surely we're not going to survive this. Come on villa.
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How the fuck are we not 4 down?
Outplayed by this rabble. Christ.
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Why are Bruce's half time talks so obviously useless? We never come out all guns firing, especially when playing away.
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Jedinak coming on for Snodgrass!
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You're just a shit load of Rosenthals.
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Davis and Jedi now, come on Stevie.
Agree, we need some physical presence on the pitch.
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Jedi on for Snodgrass
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Onomah wide.
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So finally we see Jedinak-Whelan as central midfield "dynamic" duo.
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Is the a defensive or offensive change?
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Pass to the feet of Snodgrass/Adomah.
Ah fuck!
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Jedinak on which makes sense
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Serious question. Have we even been the better team between 45-55 minutes under Bruce?
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Warm up Snoddy, you're coming off.
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Another chance goes begging for SH. How many more chances will our bunch o' tossers hand them before the end?! Sake.
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There’s shitting your pants then there’s having Whelan and Jedinak on the pitch at the same time.
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This is really only going 1 way. If your offensive players offer NOTHING then Blues will take one of their chances.
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At least he has done something.
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The barista is on.
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Chance for The Kodge there.
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Who the f*** just booted that ball upfield when he had a player free and in space ten yards away?
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Have we actually played 2 consecutive passes to our own players this second half. I genuinely don’t think we have
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Can see it now, we'll be 1 down and we'll make a double sub of Bjarni and Samba to rescue the game.
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Finally a decent move, shot tipped over the bar.
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Ducking hell a bit of football at last
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There’s shitting your pants then there’s having Whelan and Jedinak on the pitch at the same time.
And you know when we lose he’ll come out with the same old bollocks of not playing well and them being first to the ball, and how it’s not acceptable. Well with Whelan and Jedinak on the pitch they are guaranteed to be first and second to the ball.
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There’s shitting your pants then there’s having Whelan and Jedinak on the pitch at the same time.
Bruce’s answer to being outplayed is more cloggers. Fuck me he’s a thick depressing bastard.
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Is the a defensive or offensive change?
This is a Bruce change, so what do you think ;)
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Come on you fuckers!
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We've been horrendous but the ref is goving them everything.
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Who the f*** just booted that ball upfield when he had a player free and in space ten yards away?
Whelan
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Davis on for Snodgrass and Jedi for Whelan was surely the way to go.
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We are coming into it a bit now
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Kienan Davis finally coming on.
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Coppers watching the noses chuck things at Hourihane.Nice
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I look forward to the FL coming down hard on the missile-throwing Nose scum after this...
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Feck. 'Thought we'd mugged 'em there.
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Unlucky for terry
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Lovely people arn't they
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I look forward to the FL coming down hard on the missile-throwing Nose scum after this...
No doubt we will be fined more heavily for inciting the rags into chucking them.
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We've done better since the substitution.
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Our shape has looked better since mille has come on
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You have to give it to them, they are experts at the wanker gesture.
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I look forward to the FL coming down hard on the missile-throwing Nose scum after this...
It's the club's fault for providing the morons with ammunition in the first place. What were they thinking?
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Whelan has spent more time on the floor than actually playing.
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Davis on for Snodgrass and Jedi for Whelan was surely the way to go.
Since Jedinak is on, why is Whelan still on?
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Davis on for Snodgrass and Jedi for Whelan was surely the way to go.
Since Jedinak is on, why is Whelan still on?
Because it's a derby which means all normal football rules don't apply.
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There will be just one goal in this and I think a Villa sub will get it.
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Davis on for Hourihane
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Whelan is doing "something" defensively but is clueless when he got the ball...he is like an inverted Grealish.
Can we please get rid of both in January and get a "whole" player?
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Whelan and Onomah have just been terrible today.
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Aarrgghhhhhhhhhh
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Davis has made a massive difference to this.
We should be 1 up.
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Aarrgghhhhhhhhhh
Aaaaaarrrghhhh
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Pass Kodjia ffs
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Fuckkkkk bar again
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Kodja gets on my tits
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Kodjia injured, Hogan on.
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Great effort Jimmy! How strange that he's looked a different player since KD came on...
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Oh great, Hogan’s on.
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Kodjia off.
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Could be the boost Hogan needs to his career if he scores here
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Hogan will be a hero.
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Hogan to score.
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Oh shit
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Frustrating game. Enough time to score one goal come on Villa.
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Hogan will be a hero.
👏
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D'oh! And Bruce promptly removes him from proceedings. ::)
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That routine the Noses go through every time our substitution is announced is just hilarious isn't it?
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Come on you bunch of bastards
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That routine the Noses go through every time our substitution is announced is just hilarious isn't it?
There's nothing less funny than a guy doing something totally unfunny endlessly just because it's their 'thing'.
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Oh for another late villa winner.
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Oh shit
Please don't say things like that. ;)
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Hogan is shit
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Whelan is sky man of match
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HA HA WHELAN....you're mad mate
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pity Gabby isn't around
They would shit their pants in the final minutes seeing him come on
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Hogan is hardly super sub
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Come on Hogan, if you're going to do anything for us do it now.
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Whelan Man of the match, really?
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5 minutes added on...for what?
No goals, a few subs, a few clappers thrown.
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5 mins injury time..COME ON !!
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5 minutes added on...for what?
No goals, a few subs, a few clappers thrown.
Lots of subs and the Whelan head injury.
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pity Pitiful Gabby isn't around.
Fixed.
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Hogan is hardly super sub
Especially on the left wing.
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Miraculous injury-time scuff-in please!
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Miraculous injury-time scuff-in please!
Dangerous free kick for us.
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Free kick COME ON!!!!!!
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Ace our kid!
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Rubbish
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Hopelessly over the bar.
Largely sums up our performance.
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Come on Villa. Mug these tossers...
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Crap free kick crap result
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How did he not get booked for that challenge at th end?
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Terrible attitude against a shite team.
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Boooooooo!
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Pure shit in parts
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They really play Ariana Grande after the match!!!!
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Typical derby, awful to watch.
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Fuck me that was bad. Extremely lucky not to lose.
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How did he not get booked for that challenge at th end?
Second yellow, should have gone.
Another moral victory for the Blues looking at the way they're cheering their players, I'll take a point away from home.
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I was going ape shit when they had that throw in deep in our half in injury time just before we had that last free kick. First bloke steals a few yards and then tosses it to another tosser who steals a few more. I thought between the two of them they were on a sponsored f*cking walk.
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A fitting end to an absolute steaming turd of a match.
Enjoy the rest of your afternoon folks: it can't possibly be worse than witnessing that shite.
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Just glad its out of the way but are we good enough to get out of this league?
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I thought they (arguably) slightly shaded the first half but we were definately the better side in the second. I will take a point from what, in the circumstances was always going to be a tricky away game but we really should have beaten them as they are not a good side. I thought Jota was their best player, but he is a bit like Grealish. A bit too much fart and not much shit at the end of it.