Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: PeterWithesShin on October 11, 2017, 06:47:46 PM
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Championship
Saturday 14 October, 17:30
Molineux Stadium
1-1
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Happy with a draw there. 1-1 as well.
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I suspect a draw. It seems like years since I've felt this level of anticipation for a game.
We trade this sort of excitement for the status of being in the Premier League where the only things at stake would be local pride and the possibilty of relegation. Despite the drawbacks, we should enjoy these days while we can.
1-1.
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Going for 0-1 Snodgrass Would like to see Jedinak in there probably for Whelan. But do you change a winning team ?? De Laet LB ......
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The most important game for a long time.
Must not lose.
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Hoping for a draw. 2-2
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I can't see us losing this so it's just a question of whether we can do enough to win. Wolves are not all that.
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We'll do these bastards
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I think we'll win 2-0. Adomah and Kodja to score!
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We don't give much away these days. A draw would be a good result. I can see us showing some real intent and grabbing the win. It won't be pretty. We'll have to grind it and nick it, but I fancy we'll do it. Kodjia magic for 1-0 (this will be where someone says his leg fell off on international duty or something).
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2-0 us. The juggernaut is moving. Wolves to fall apart afterwards and drift into mid table mediocrity.
By Christmas, we'll be stone cold certainties for promotion.
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I think Terry is going to be huge here in the build up to get the mentality spot on.
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A royal slapping will be given, 0-3. Don't care who.
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As someone who works in Wolverhampton I would really appreciate it if we could not lose this, please.
1-1
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1-2 Kodjia and Hogan to seal it late on.
Some Portuguese lad for them.
And the Villa go marching on on on.
UTV!
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I'm worried about left back. I imagine it will be Hutton, against possibly the best player in the league
They're weak at set pieces so I fancy Snoddy to set up Terry, Chester or Davis to score
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I'm worried about left back. I imagine it will be Hutton, against possibly the best player in the league
They're weak at set pieces so I fancy Snoddy to set up Terry, Chester or Davis to score
Do you think Bruce might go 3 at the back?
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Hutton's not playing against Kodjia silly goose.
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Hutton's not playing against Kodjia silly goose.
Honk, honk.
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A win would be superb. A draw would be a decent point. A defeat would be a setback but not the end of the world. I reckon it might finish 2-2 though.
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Defeat. We're due.
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1-1 Kodjia
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This is going to be an incredibly close game, they've started superbly and have a fast, free flowing frontline. We've started to find our feet and hit form, we've got the best striker in the league and Terry/Chester are really starting to build a commanding partnership
Wolves are extremely confident, and think they're going to rip Terry to shreds with their pace. Fortunately they're too thick to realise his positioning is and always has been one of his strong points.
Lets fucking have 'em.
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0-0.
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The pressure will be on them, which should suit us well.
I predict a positive result.
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My heart say Villa win
My head says low score draw
Therefore it would surprise me if we lose.
Yes left back is going to be a big problem at the stadium of dirty yellow as it was last season where Amavi got ripped apart
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We, somewhat annoyingly, seem more expressive and expansive away, so I'm more optimistic of our fortune than were it at ours now.
0-2 us, JK double.
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I think we've got this regardless of Villas form. I actually think it works out better for us that they're playing better than they did in their first 5 or 6 games because our players will have to go up a gear in performance and it's going to be a massacre for JT. It's gonna feel like he's got 3 Eden Hazards running at him if we start with the front 3 that started the Burton game.
How far from the 18 yard box do you think JT will stray lol - 5 yards if he's feeling brave and energetic.
Jota is on fire
Cav is on fire
Costa will probably be on fire now
Vinagre is on fire
Neves is on fire after the Burton game
Saiss is on fire
Doc is on fire
Ruddy is on fire
**** me that's a whole lotta fire there JT!!
Boly might be back - so Kodja and that kid Davies will definitely be getting a not tonight lads you're not getting in!
Wanderers 3-0 Villains
Should be a real good game.
Got a feeling we will take it by a couple of goals......Terry to get ripped a new one by our dynamic front trio. :)
3 - 1.
New one ripped, Wolves Win 3-0
https://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/index.php?threads/v-villa-predictions.198931/ - some confident Wolves fans, and not big fans of Terry.
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0-2. Dingles roundly whipped, and sent back to the dressing room with their tails between their legs.
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That site has some delusional Dingles on it. Read the stadium expansion thread.
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3-1 to Villa. Wolves won’t stop us.
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Nailed on away win. FTF
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I'm worried about left back. I imagine it will be Hutton, against possibly the best player in the league
They're weak at set pieces so I fancy Snoddy to set up Terry, Chester or Davis to score
Do you think Bruce might go 3 at the back?
Don't think so after the experiment at Bristol City. From listening to WM over the past few weeks, they apparently play a 3-4-3 but lack a real focal point up front. I fear us getting overrun in midfield with just Whelan and Hourihane in there,
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2-1 to Wolves. I hope I'm wrong. I might even have a bet on Wolves just to jinx them.
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2-1 to Wolves. I hope I'm wrong. I might even have a bet on Wolves just to jinx them.
Make them the last game on your acca, that usually does the trick!
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2-1 to Wolves. I hope I'm wrong. I might even have a bet on Wolves just to jinx them.
Make them the last game on your acca, that usually does the trick!
Just for you, if for some reason Wolves are not the last Championship team on the coupon I will write my Championship selections onto a plain slip and put Wolves as my last selection.
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As a sign of how far we have fallen, I’ll be happy to get a draw with Wolves. It doesn’t
Sound right saying that, but i’d Be happy with 1-1. Usually when we play them,
A draw feels like a loss, not now though. A win would really make me think we’ve turned the corner.
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Our form doesn't count as we only battered Barnsley and Burton. It appears to be lost on them as to who they've recently played.
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wolves fans at work are really confident
They reckon if we allow them to play there normal quick passing game we will not have a chance. One of them reckons the way to beat Wolves is to play like Cardiff did against them earlier this season, to get stuck in to them, and not give them time on the ball
Therefore based on the above I can see us losing 2-1, a tough run of games coming up for Bruce.
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They also seem to think the best centre half in the league, by an absolute mile, is our weak link. Their adolescent front three are unplayable. We're a bunch of cloggers. We will get battered. Apparently.
I don't know, maybe we will get beat. But to be fair the last time we played them we won 3-0 and won the Super Cup in the process.
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That site has some delusional Dingles on it. Read the stadium expansion thread.
Was reading that the other day, comedy gold. Saying they should be aiming for a 60,000 stadium and could eventually fill it every week because 'wim massive'. The irony is lost on them however that on the 'Aston Villa attendance' thread they're all getting excited because they've sold 27,000 tickets, but still haven't managed to sell out.
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That site has some delusional Dingles on it. Read the stadium expansion thread.
Was reading that the other day, comedy gold. Saying they should be aiming for a 60,000 stadium and could eventually fill it every week because 'wim massive'. The irony is lost on them however that on the 'Aston Villa attendance' thread they're all getting excited because they've sold 27,000 tickets, but still haven't managed to sell out.
They're a bunch of cretins on that site, the irony of those two threads is completely lost on them. They might beat us Saturday, but they're nowhere near as good as they think. Same old Wolves, I don't mind them when they're not on form, they're down to earth normal fans. But when they string a run together they think they've turned into Barcelona. They have no idea what we're capable of, this will be a close game and I really hope we knock them down a peg.
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2-0. Back to earth with a bump.
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Heart says 2-2. Head says probably 3-1 to them. I hope not, brother is a Wolves fan - it'll be endless ribbing...
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Wolves fans are great; the right ones can provide hours of fun. When they're doing badly, which is most of the time, their capacity for self-delusion is immense. No club, ground or set of supporters can match theirs and they're like Manchester United in their belief that nothing can touch them and everyone else is jealous. A modicum of success and they're on their way to world domination - again, because beating a handful of post-war eastern European clubs in friendlies was way better than Real Madrid's five successive European Cups. Chorley never happened, they'll argue until they're puce that they never got crowds of three thousand and if you disagree me an yow ahtside now.
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Heart says 2-2. Head says probably 3-1 to them. I hope not, brother is a Wolves fan - it'll be endless ribbing...
Sorry but I'd disown him.
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1-2
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We need a win to keep our promotion charge going so why not I'm going 2-1 to us.
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A hat trick of 2-1 predictions. Kodj and Albert for us, some random Dingle for them.
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A fifth win on the slap, and an away win at that? Against the second team in the league? In a derby? On telly? Hmmm. Doesn't sound very Villa, does it?
If we win I'll consider that corner well and truly turned. I just can't see it, though. 2:0 to the dogheads.
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1-2 Fuck the Dingles
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Their pace up top might be our undoing. Still, we have goals in us now so we'll give them problems. I'd take the draw now.
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A fifth win on the slap, and an away win at that? Against the second team in the league? In a derby? On telly? Hmmm. Doesn't sound very Villa, does it?
If we win I'll consider that corner well and truly turned. I just can't see it, though. 2:0 to the dogheads.
Might be wrong but I don't think we've lost to Wolves in a televised game.
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These three games this month are so important. However I can't see us winning this one. We'll go down 1-0.
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A fifth win on the slap, and an away win at that? Against the second team in the league? In a derby? On telly? Hmmm. Doesn't sound very Villa, does it?
If we win I'll consider that corner well and truly turned. I just can't see it, though. 2:0 to the dogheads.
Might be wrong but I don't think we've lost to Wolves in a televised game.
Last season.
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I think last time we won 5 league games on the trot was in the 97-98 season. So the odds of achieving that again are very much against us. If they are at their best, 2-1 Wolves.
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Lose this one and i wont be able to show my face in the local for the next month or two.
You wouldn't believe how jumped up all the local dogheads have been of late. You'd think they were Barcelona, i'm not kidding.
It's as if they've won the league and are awaiting being crowned Champions of Europe. Absolute fuckiwts.
About 5% have been to watch an actual match in the last 20 years of course ...
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Their pace up top might be our undoing. Still, we have goals in us now so we'll give them problems. I'd take the draw now.
It's their midfield that concerns me more.
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An exhilarating 3-3 draw.
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Terry will be fully rested as will Whelan and Hourianne as neither had any game time.
The game hinges on 2 issues
1. The troublesome LB slot - either of Hutton or Bjork will really weaken us - even though only a kid we should put Clark there or DeLaet who is used to that role
2. Bruce's mentality. If he goes to sit back and soak up then we could be in trouble - I really think the best way to nullify their attack is to make them worry about ours more.
The most important thing for me is that over the recent turn up in results I am really looking forward to this game - really make a change from being a chore.
Queue a miserable defeat :(
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Wolves fans are great; the right ones can provide hours of fun. When they're doing badly, which is most of the time, their capacity for self-delusion is immense. No club, ground or set of supporters can match theirs and they're like Manchester United in their belief that nothing can touch them and everyone else is jealous. A modicum of success and they're on their way to world domination - again, because beating a handful of post-war eastern European clubs in friendlies was way better than Real Madrid's five successive European Cups. Chorley never happened, they'll argue until they're puce that they never got crowds of three thousand and if you disagree me an yow ahtside now.
It wont surprise you then that we're shit as we've only beat Barnsley, Burton and Forest (who coincidentally are the three sides they've beaten in their last four games) and on their march towards Premier League glory will need to share our ground with us while they build a 60,000 seater.
And no, I am not joking.
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I can see a 0:0 here
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Terry will be fully rested as will Whelan and Hourianne as neither had any game time.
The game hinges on 2 issues
1. The troublesome LB slot - either of Hutton or Bjork will really weaken us - even though only a kid we should put Clark there or DeLaet who is used to that role
2. Bruce's mentality. If he goes to sit back and soak up then we could be in trouble - I really think the best way to nullify their attack is to make them worry about ours more.
The most important thing for me is that over the recent turn up in results I am really looking forward to this game - really make a change from being a chore.
Queue a miserable defeat :(
If we go there to attack they'll counter us and rip us to pieces on the break. Bruce's usual soak up pressure and take our chances would suit us more here. Kodjia, Adomah and Snodgrass are key for us here, we need to take our chances.
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Wolves fans are great; the right ones can provide hours of fun. When they're doing badly, which is most of the time, their capacity for self-delusion is immense. No club, ground or set of supporters can match theirs and they're like Manchester United in their belief that nothing can touch them and everyone else is jealous. A modicum of success and they're on their way to world domination - again, because beating a handful of post-war eastern European clubs in friendlies was way better than Real Madrid's five successive European Cups. Chorley never happened, they'll argue until they're puce that they never got crowds of three thousand and if you disagree me an yow ahtside now.
It wont surprise you then that we're shit as we've only beat Barnsley, Burton and Forest (who coincidentally are the three sides they've beaten in their last four games) and on their march towards Premier League glory will need to share our ground with us while they build a 60,000 seater.
And no, I am not joking.
Hopefully they decide to rebuild the ground and are forced into a groundshare with Albion, though I can't see anyone letting them groundshare, least of all Albion. Then they'd come back to their 60,000 seated stadium completely unable to half fill it.
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Facts are they're 2nd in the league, playing their best football for years and they're playing the biggest team in the region on Saturday. Yet they can't hit 30,000 and are wetting their pants at selling 27,000 home tickets. If roles were reversed how many would we get? I reckon we'd have got 36/37k maybe more, if we were 2nd in the league.
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Facts are they're 2nd in the league, playing their best football for years and they're playing the biggest team in the region on Saturday. Yet they can't hit 30,000 and are wetting their pants at selling 27,000 home tickets. If roles were reversed how many would we get? I reckon we'd have got 36/37k maybe more, if we were 2nd in the league.
When we are 2nd
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If our team falls apart just because Taylor is out we really are fucked this season.
Do people really think our success, or not, hangs on such a delicate thread?
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If we go there to attack they'll counter us and rip us to pieces on the break
Any reason why we can't hit them on the counter and rip them to pieces ? It's Wolves we're playing not Madrid ;D
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A fifth win on the slap, and an away win at that? Against the second team in the league? In a derby? On telly? Hmmm. Doesn't sound very Villa, does it?
If we win I'll consider that corner well and truly turned. I just can't see it, though. 2:0 to the dogheads.
We have turned a corner. We will win.
Please believe it.
2-1 Villa.
The Kodge will score from open play.
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If our team falls apart just because Taylor is out we really are fucked this season.
Do people really think our success, or not, hangs on such a delicate thread?
I don't know, but it's about time Taylor got some long overdue praise. Came in, seemingly unwanted by most, got his head down and to me has been as good a left back as we've had in years. Solid, unspectacular but a perfect fit
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If our team falls apart just because Taylor is out we really are fucked this season.
Do people really think our success, or not, hangs on such a delicate thread?
I don't know, but it's about time Taylor got some long overdue praise. Came in, seemingly unwanted by most, got his head down and to me has been as good a left back as we've had in years. Solid, unspectacular but a perfect fit
Absolutely. I can't think of too many games where i've come away thinking he's been poor.
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Should be a real test of whether Bruce has turned the corner with us or we've just been recent flat track bullies. Based on what I've seen of us I fear the latter and I'm going for a 2-0 defeat.
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Must say that Taylor has been a plus for us. Never going to be a headline grabber but at this level he does what he is supposed to do. ... He does his job
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2-0 Wolves. One (or four) swallows do not a summer make.
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I am looking forward to it. We have played some pretty entertaining stuff recently. Should be a good game.
As for Wolves, well they are the least annoying other local club of decent size so thats something :)
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Will we join together to sing shit on the City/Albion I wonder 😎
Some clown on Villa Talk thinks Lambert is still their boss
1-1 I reckon although Wolves fan at work thinks 3-0 to them the joker
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New ground. Birthday weekend.
What could possibly go wrong?
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A fifth win on the slap, and an away win at that? Against the second team in the league? In a derby? On telly? Hmmm. Doesn't sound very Villa, does it?
If we win I'll consider that corner well and truly turned. I just can't see it, though. 2:0 to the dogheads.
Might be wrong but I don't think we've lost to Wolves in a televised game.
Not for a whole year
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If we go there to attack they'll counter us and rip us to pieces on the break
Any reason why we can't hit them on the counter and rip them to pieces ? It's Wolves we're playing not Madrid ;D
That's the way to play them. Soak up the pressure and counter them. If we go attacking they'll pick us to pieces
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1-1. Tough game but we'll be better than last season there which shouldn't be too hard.
Get the feeling though it will be a 1-1 with us nicking a goal and then hanging on for dear life in the last 20 minutes. Rather than dominating and controlling the game which looks a stretch given how we usually play and the quality Wolves have in midfield.
Would love to be proved wrong though. Performance to me is as important as a result in this one. Go toe to toe with a genuine promotion rival and I'd be pretty happy. Meekly losing like we did there last year would set off the alarm bells again.
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I'm pretty sure Wolves v Villa was the second televised live league game when it all started back in 1983. 1-1.
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If we go there to attack they'll counter us and rip us to pieces on the break
Any reason why we can't hit them on the counter and rip them to pieces ? It's Wolves we're playing not Madrid ;D
That's the way to play them. Soak up the pressure and counter them. If we go attacking they'll pick us to pieces
Reading Molineux Mix you would think we are playing Madrid. They're already a bigger club than us and will be a European powerhouse within a couple of years according to some. Reading that forum has helped pass the hours at work this week. It will be an even more interesting read if we win.
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There's at least 16 Villa in the upper tier above the away end that I know of, so we're doing our bit to sell out for them.
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Holy moly they're out in force on their website.
Bigger club than the Vile bay we
More fans bay we
Birmingham is mainly Blues bay it
They're on another planet.
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And they're all dead hard real lads and we're all a bunch of jessies. How very quaint.
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If we go there to attack they'll counter us and rip us to pieces on the break
Any reason why we can't hit them on the counter and rip them to pieces ? It's Wolves we're playing not Madrid ;D
That's the way to play them. Soak up the pressure and counter them. If we go attacking they'll pick us to pieces
Reading Molineux Mix you would think we are playing Madrid. They're already a bigger club than us and will be a European powerhouse within a couple of years according to some. Reading that forum has helped pass the hours at work this week. It will be an even more interesting read if we win.
Couple of defeats and it will be a different story. "He's gorra goo".
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And they're all dead hard real lads and we're all a bunch of jessies. How very quaint.
It's like LSD is being added to their water supply.
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And they're all dead hard real lads and we're all a bunch of jessies. How very quaint.
It's like LSD is being added to their water supply.
Wolverhampton has a water supply?
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And they're having HS2 extended to Wolverhampton.
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There's at least 16 Villa in the upper tier above the away end that I know of, so we're doing our bit to sell out for them.
I know of a fair few in there aswell.
Hopefully the atmosphere is better this season in our end. It was horrendous last season, one of the worst aways I've done, although not having a shot didn't help and that away end is crap.
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And they're all dead hard real lads and we're all a bunch of jessies. How very quaint.
It's like LSD is being added to their water supply.
Wolverhampton has a water supply?
Got to get water to the horses somehow.
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Holy moly they're out in force on their website.
Bigger club than the Vile bay we
More fans bay we
Birmingham is mainly Blues bay it
They're on another planet.
They must have meant The Vale aka Burslem whom they have played more than us in recent times.
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I've said this before but Wolves fans are more fickle than most. If they win two, they're going up. If they lose two, get rid of the manager. Other than that, I don't mind them all that much. They're much more bearable than the other two who seem to hate us more than they like themselves.
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2-0 Wolves. One (or four) swallows do not a summer make.
But a Bukkake party it does :)
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There's at least 16 Villa in the upper tier above the away end that I know of, so we're doing our bit to sell out for them.
I know of a fair few in there aswell.
Hopefully the atmosphere is better this season in our end. It was horrendous last season, one of the worst aways I've done, although not having a shot didn't help and that away end is crap.
Rubbish away stand, and villa fans split between 2 stands and 3 tiers didn't exactly help. Nor did going 1 down early on. The stand on the sideline is hard to make an atmosphere because of its curved effect means you're so spread out.
I've said this before but Wolves fans are more fickle than most. If they win two, they're going up. If they lose two, get rid of the manager. Other than that, I don't mind them all that much. They're much more bearable than the other two who seem to hate us more than they like themselves.
Quite. We get a lot of stick for it, deservedly so most of the time, but Wolves really are on another planet. They signed a polish lad called Zyro a few years ago and he scored a hattrick on his debut, I had 3 of them tell me he was going to go on and play for Madrid or Barca one day, two weeks later he was shite and not fit for their reserves.
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There was a great atmosphere for the Robbie Keane game, one of my favourite Villa away games.
I like Molinuex as a ground, much better than the awful warehouse grounds like Reading that are f***ing miles away from the town centre.
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I don't usually look forward to televised games (for obvious reasons) but hopeful of a good performance and a positive result.
They are going well so think it will be a hard fought draw - will go for 1-1 with Kodjia for us and some Portugese chap for them
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1-0 Wplves just to edge it.
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Pass the ball back wanderers
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Holy moly they're out in force on their website.
Bigger club than the Vile bay we
More fans bay we
Birmingham is mainly Blues bay it
They're on another planet.
You’re talking about Wolverhampton, where the opening of a new Debenhams is the spectacle of a lifetime.
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And they're having HS2 extended to Wolverhampton.
Give them something new to point at.
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To put it into context, with hindsight the most sadly deluded/optimistic we were was when Randy arrived and we were talking about worldwide marketing, IMG signing us the best players and would we be better off extending Villa Park to hold 55,000 or moving. But, and this is the big difference, at that time we were an established Premier League club who were regulars in Europe and had some top-class players. Wolves have spent more time in the past 33 years in the bottom two divisions than in the top one.
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I'm pretty sure Wolves v Villa was the second televised live league game when it all started back in 1983. 1-1.
It was, and the headlines the following day read 'snore bore'!!
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"When Villa won the league in 1981 and followed it up with the European title they took the mantle of the west midlands biggest club, no argument possible,but for 60 years before that Wolves were the top club in the region by a mile , 3 league titles, 2 fa cups, 2 league cups and a European final to Villa's I fa cup and 2 league cups (I don't count their 1961 as we didn't enter). Most of Villas history was between 1890 and 1920 fact !"
If you don't count the trophies before Wolves one a thing or two, they were a bigger club...
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Holy moly they're out in force on their website.
Bigger club than the Vile bay we
More fans bay we
Birmingham is mainly Blues bay it
They're on another planet.
You’re talking about Wolverhampton, where the opening of a new Debenhams is the spectacle of a lifetime.
And where the residents visit the Black Country Museum to get a glimpse of what their life will be like in the future....
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Dont mind the tatters at all and had I got a ticket and the circumstances been different I'd be spending the day in one of my favourite pubs near the ground having a few beers with mates who follow them. Also got split family loyalty so I really hope that my premonition of a heavy defeat doesn't comes to fruition.
They dont half talk all funny mind.
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"When Villa won the league in 1981 and followed it up with the European title they took the mantle of the west midlands biggest club, no argument possible,but for 60 years before that Wolves were the top club in the region by a mile , 3 league titles, 2 fa cups, 2 league cups and a European final to Villa's I fa cup and 2 league cups (I don't count their 1961 as we didn't enter). Most of Villas history was between 1890 and 1920 fact !"
If you don't count the trophies before Wolves one a thing or two, they were a bigger club...
Like many people, you equate size to trophies won. To me that makes them more successful, not bigger.By your rule Nottingham Forest, Derby Co. we’re bigger than Man Utd in the seventies, they weren’t. To me there is only one measure , and that’s how many fans do you have. Big clubs can win trophies and small clubs can win trophies. It makes no difference to their size, only their stature.
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It's not just fans either, only Man Utd and Arsenal have ever had a higher average attendance than West Ham had last season, 11K higher than our best ever. Doesn't mean they're one of the biggest club in the country. Or bigger than us.
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We're bigger than the Wolves by a country fucking mile.
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Holy moly they're out in force on their website.
Bigger club than the Vile bay we
More fans bay we
Birmingham is mainly Blues bay it
They're on another planet.
You’re talking about Wolverhampton, where the opening of a new Debenhams is the spectacle of a lifetime.
And where the residents visit the Black Country Museum to get a glimpse of what their life will be like in the future....
That is a quality comment. <Applause>
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We're bigger than the Wolves by a country f-ing mile.
Always have been, always will be.
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It's not even close. Since we won the European Cup they've spent 5 seasons in the top flight. Highest finish since then is 15th. 0 proper cup finals. A decent sized club no arguments, but no one with an IQ higher than a dead wombat's would even have them in the same conversation as us.
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Holy moly they're out in force on their website.
Bigger club than the Vile bay we
More fans bay we
Birmingham is mainly Blues bay it
They're on another planet.
You’re talking about Wolverhampton, where the opening of a new Debenhams is the spectacle of a lifetime.
And where the residents visit the Black Country Museum to get a glimpse of what their life will be like in the future....
Spit out drink funny moment
Bravo Sir. That will noted and used I assure you
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My opinion of Wolverhampton
Sod all to do today so thought I'd have a ride on the tram. Up to West Brom for a wander round then to Wolverhampton for a wander and then back. Tram is ace. Only an extra quid to use it on top of a normal bus daysaver. Wolverhampton is shit. It's like a crap Burnley.
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My opinion of Wolverhampton
Sod all to do today so thought I'd have a ride on the tram. Up to West Brom for a wander round then to Wolverhampton for a wander and then back. Tram is ace. Only an extra quid to use it on top of a normal bus daysaver. Wolverhampton is shit. It's like a crap Burnley.
I work there every working day. Imagine my life.
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Bit of Travel advice
If your going on the Tram it doesn't go all the way to Wolverhampton currently, you need to get off @ The Crescent and then you have to wait for a bus....Can be a pain
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Was there last year and agree that it was dismal day. Got started by eating at Morrison's opposite pre game and having fish and chips which had more bone than fish. Pivotal tomorrow, if we get a result I can see a great few months
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"When Villa won the league in 1981 and followed it up with the European title they took the mantle of the west midlands biggest club, no argument possible,but for 60 years before that Wolves were the top club in the region by a mile , 3 league titles, 2 fa cups, 2 league cups and a European final to Villa's I fa cup and 2 league cups (I don't count their 1961 as we didn't enter). Most of Villas history was between 1890 and 1920 fact !"
If you don't count the trophies before Wolves one a thing or two, they were a bigger club...
Like many people, you equate size to trophies won. To me that makes them more successful, not bigger.By your rule Nottingham Forest, Derby Co. we’re bigger than Man Utd in the seventies, they weren’t. To me there is only one measure , and that’s how many fans do you have. Big clubs can win trophies and small clubs can win trophies. It makes no difference to their size, only their stature.
No, that makes Forest and Derby better than Man United in the seventies, of which there is little doubt. Just as Bournemouth are better than us now.
Doesn't make them bigger. Your size is based on the entirety of your club's history. We were still massive even in our darkest days, because of all the trophies we had already won, just as we are massive now and will be even if we don't play in the top flight for a decade.
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Bit of Travel advice
If your going on the Tram it doesn't go all the way to Wolverhampton currently, you need to get off @ The Crescent and then you have to wait for a bus....Can be a pain
I was planning on going to Bilston. Is the Crescent further from the ground or closer?
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Bit of Travel advice
If your going on the Tram it doesn't go all the way to Wolverhampton currently, you need to get off @ The Crescent and then you have to wait for a bus....Can be a pain
I was planning on going to Bilston. Is the Crescent further from the ground or closer?
Closer. Next stop after Bilston Central.
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Ta.
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Holy moly they're out in force on their website.
Bigger club than the Vile bay we
More fans bay we
Birmingham is mainly Blues bay it
They're on another planet.
You’re talking about Wolverhampton, where the opening of a new Debenhams is the spectacle of a lifetime.
And where the residents visit the Black Country Museum to get a glimpse of what their life will be like in the future....
That is a quality comment. <Applause>
Very. Have they got electricity and running water yet?
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Wulves a bin to good since ourr stevie jacked in. But let me tell yo villa lot sumat. Weem on the up see and it wo b long til we wins fings in the eec. Yo lot wo know what's hit ya when yo heer the Wulves roor tomorra...
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Same as last season. 1-0 to them.
We are better than last year but so are they.
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Bit of Travel advice
If your going on the Tram it doesn't go all the way to Wolverhampton currently, you need to get off @ The Crescent and then you have to wait for a bus....Can be a pain
I was planning on going to Bilston. Is the Crescent further from the ground or closer?
Closer. Next stop after Bilston Central.
Bilston's miles from Wolverhampton. You're just after orange chips again.
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Bit of Travel advice
If your going on the Tram it doesn't go all the way to Wolverhampton currently, you need to get off @ The Crescent and then you have to wait for a bus....Can be a pain
I was planning on going to Bilston. Is the Crescent further from the ground or closer?
Closer. Next stop after Bilston Central.
Bilston's miles from Wolverhampton. You're just after orange chips again.
In his defence Major's is a quality chippie
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If we win tomorrow we will only be 2 points off top spot :o 8)
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"When Villa won the league in 1981 and followed it up with the European title they took the mantle of the west midlands biggest club, no argument possible,but for 60 years before that Wolves were the top club in the region by a mile , 3 league titles, 2 fa cups, 2 league cups and a European final to Villa's I fa cup and 2 league cups (I don't count their 1961 as we didn't enter). Most of Villas history was between 1890 and 1920 fact !"
If you don't count the trophies before Wolves one a thing or two, they were a bigger club...
Like many people, you equate size to trophies won. To me that makes them more successful, not bigger.By your rule Nottingham Forest, Derby Co. we’re bigger than Man Utd in the seventies, they weren’t. To me there is only one measure , and that’s how many fans do you have. Big clubs can win trophies and small clubs can win trophies. It makes no difference to their size, only their stature.
No, it's a mixture of a lot of things. Past, present, future and support being the key for me.
Wolves are joint second biggest club in the midlands for me. They're pretty much on a par with Albion IMO. But neither are anything close to us
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Two great results for us tonight.
Big, BIG, game tomorrow. Let's not fuck this up, Villa!
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"When Villa won the league in 1981 and followed it up with the European title they took the mantle of the west midlands biggest club, no argument possible,but for 60 years before that Wolves were the top club in the region by a mile , 3 league titles, 2 fa cups, 2 league cups and a European final to Villa's I fa cup and 2 league cups (I don't count their 1961 as we didn't enter). Most of Villas history was between 1890 and 1920 fact !"
If you don't count the trophies before Wolves one a thing or two, they were a bigger club...
Like many people, you equate size to trophies won. To me that makes them more successful, not bigger.By your rule Nottingham Forest, Derby Co. we’re bigger than Man Utd in the seventies, they weren’t. To me there is only one measure , and that’s how many fans do you have. Big clubs can win trophies and small clubs can win trophies. It makes no difference to their size, only their stature.
No, it's a mixture of a lot of things. Past, present, future and support being the key for me.
Wolves are joint second biggest club in the midlands for me. They're pretty much on a par with Albion IMO. But neither are anything close to us
Wolves are bigger than Albion. Far more potential there.
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"When Villa won the league in 1981 and followed it up with the European title they took the mantle of the west midlands biggest club, no argument possible,but for 60 years before that Wolves were the top club in the region by a mile , 3 league titles, 2 fa cups, 2 league cups and a European final to Villa's I fa cup and 2 league cups (I don't count their 1961 as we didn't enter). Most of Villas history was between 1890 and 1920 fact !"
If you don't count the trophies before Wolves one a thing or two, they were a bigger club...
Like many people, you equate size to trophies won. To me that makes them more successful, not bigger.By your rule Nottingham Forest, Derby Co. we’re bigger than Man Utd in the seventies, they weren’t. To me there is only one measure , and that’s how many fans do you have. Big clubs can win trophies and small clubs can win trophies. It makes no difference to their size, only their stature.
No, it's a mixture of a lot of things. Past, present, future and support being the key for me.
Wolves are joint second biggest club in the midlands for me. They're pretty much on a par with Albion IMO. But neither are anything close to us
Wolves are bigger than Albion. Far more potential there.
Wolves bigger than Albion for me too. Not keen on either but looking at it objectively put Wolves and Derby as 2nd biggest Midlands clubs
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"When Villa won the league in 1981 and followed it up with the European title they took the mantle of the west midlands biggest club, no argument possible,but for 60 years before that Wolves were the top club in the region by a mile , 3 league titles, 2 fa cups, 2 league cups and a European final to Villa's I fa cup and 2 league cups (I don't count their 1961 as we didn't enter). Most of Villas history was between 1890 and 1920 fact !"
If you don't count the trophies before Wolves one a thing or two, they were a bigger club...
Like many people, you equate size to trophies won. To me that makes them more successful, not bigger.By your rule Nottingham Forest, Derby Co. we’re bigger than Man Utd in the seventies, they weren’t. To me there is only one measure , and that’s how many fans do you have. Big clubs can win trophies and small clubs can win trophies. It makes no difference to their size, only their stature.
No, it's a mixture of a lot of things. Past, present, future and support being the key for me.
Wolves are joint second biggest club in the midlands for me. They're pretty much on a par with Albion IMO. But neither are anything close to us
Wolves are bigger than Albion. Far more potential there.
Wolves bigger than Albion for me too. Not keen on either but looking at it objectively put Wolves and Derby as 2nd biggest Midlands clubs
Similar history and fan base, wolves have more potential, but Albion are better at present.
I think considering Wolves is a one club city, with lots of areas to pull fans, there support is actually pretty poor
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Holy moly they're out in force on their website.
Bigger club than the Vile bay we
More fans bay we
Birmingham is mainly Blues bay it
They're on another planet.
You’re talking about Wolverhampton, where the opening of a new Debenhams is the spectacle of a lifetime.
Yes they now have the status equivalent to Justice world's from being incarcerated to tagged.
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Who's bigger - Wolves or Albion? - is two bald men arguing over a comb.
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Surely in any discussion of size of club periods of sustained "success" have to be a primary factor. Now success can be defined in a number of ways but let's go with being in the top flight as one example of it. We are living through a rare occurrence, a historical aberration that sees Villa in the second tier. For the Wolves of the last 30 plus years this is the norm. 4 seasons in the elite division in 34 years. Maybe in 1974 Wolves could look at the post war era and say they were bigger than us but everything that has happened since then has put us so far ahead that the very idea of them being bigger than us is frankly insane.
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It's time to put these in their place.
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Who is bigger Villa/Wolves is a ridiculous comparison. Wolves are a natural second tier club who occasionally appear in the top division say one every 30 years whereas Villa are the exact opposite.
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"When Villa won the league in 1981 and followed it up with the European title they took the mantle of the west midlands biggest club,
No arsehole (not you L&P) when we did that we took the mantle of biggest club in Europe not just England or West Midlands.
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I’m going to my first away game in years !!
And sitting in the Billy Wright stand 🙁
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Wolves traditionally bigger than the Villa is like saying we are bigger than Man United or Real Madrid.
As for Wolves v Olbion its like asking what is better a turd or a shit. Still think they have shit support for the area they cover as a one City team.
I like the Wolves tradition, plenty of player, official and manager interchange during the course of our histories. Their kit again was based on the Villa kit style wise. It's just its Wolves - they do need to own mirrors though in Wolverhampton.
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To say they have shit support is rubbish, since the last 34 seasons they've only spent 4 seasons in the top flight and over the last few seasons have still averaged around 20k. During that time even dropped into the 4th tier of English tier. Gotta be one of the most loyal fans in the country.
Regarding size would put them alongside Blues as the 2nd biggest clubs in our area.
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To say they have shit support is rubbish, since the last 34 seasons they've only spent 4 seasons in the top flight and over the last few seasons have still averaged around 20k. During that time even dropped into the 4th tier of English tier. Gotta be one of the most loyal fans in the country.
Regarding size would put them alongside Blues as the 2nd biggest clubs in our area.
And their support during that time in the fourth division?
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Bit of Travel advice
If your going on the Tram it doesn't go all the way to Wolverhampton currently, you need to get off @ The Crescent and then you have to wait for a bus....Can be a pain
I was planning on going to Bilston. Is the Crescent further from the ground or closer?
Closer. Next stop after Bilston Central.
Bilston's miles from Wolverhampton. You're just after orange chips again.
You know me too well.
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To say they have shit support is rubbish, since the last 34 seasons they've only spent 4 seasons in the top flight and over the last few seasons have still averaged around 20k. During that time even dropped into the 4th tier of English tier. Gotta be one of the most loyal fans in the country.
Regarding size would put them alongside Blues as the 2nd biggest clubs in our area.
Blues are absolutely nowhere near the 2nd biggest club in the area, nowhere near. They're on par with Coventry, and that's only come about in the last 15 years.
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Bit of Travel advice
If your going on the Tram it doesn't go all the way to Wolverhampton currently, you need to get off @ The Crescent and then you have to wait for a bus....Can be a pain
I was planning on going to Bilston. Is the Crescent further from the ground or closer?
Closer. Next stop after Bilston Central.
Bilston's miles from Wolverhampton. You're just after orange chips again.
You know me too well.
The orange chips in Bilston are wonderful.
Sorry, I meant bostin.
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They're counting down how many tickets are left on Molineux Mix and getting excited because there's only 200 left bless 'em. If they'd given us 4000 they'd have sold out last week ;)
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0-5. Fuck the fuckers.
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Villa
Wolves
Blues/WBA
in that order for me, i can’t work out who is the biggest between Blues and wba so I put them joint
but Wolves are bigger than them both in imo
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West Brom are thousands of times bigger than Small Heath, as are Wolves.
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So are Rushall Olympic.
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I'd be happy with a point - yet still hope we can find a way of snaffling all 3. Dare I dream the dream?
Hmmmmmmm...
UTV
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Inspired by a post on the Other Games thread, I thought this was interesting. Not just the oldest derby but the (joint) oldest league match.
http://www.football-stadiums.co.uk/articles/first-ever-football-matches/
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A draw would be ok, but I think it will show how far we have come as a team to be more robust.
Wolves might just have a little more.
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Wolves traditionally bigger than the Villa is like saying we are bigger than Man United or Real Madrid.
Are you saying we are not? :-\ :'(
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We took an away following last year to their place bigger than some of their home gates in the 4th division. And some of them are actually serious when they ponder if they're bigger.
Deluded. They're utterly deluded.
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To say they have shit support is rubbish, since the last 34 seasons they've only spent 4 seasons in the top flight and over the last few seasons have still averaged around 20k. During that time even dropped into the 4th tier of English tier. Gotta be one of the most loyal fans in the country.
Regarding size would put them alongside Blues as the 2nd biggest clubs in our area.
Villa Lew they have always had home support when they were in the 1st Division in the 70's their attendances were on a par with Coventry's
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Just setting off from deepest Sussex and feeling unusually confident. Could this be the day we overtake Bristol City?
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To say they have shit support is rubbish, since the last 34 seasons they've only spent 4 seasons in the top flight and over the last few seasons have still averaged around 20k. During that time even dropped into the 4th tier of English tier. Gotta be one of the most loyal fans in the country.
Regarding size would put them alongside Blues as the 2nd biggest clubs in our area.
Villa Lew they have always had home support when they were in the 1st Division in the 70's their attendances were on a par with Coventry's
Yeah, but their crowds only looked low because the ground was in two separate posts codes back then. Or something.
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To say they have shit support is rubbish, since the last 34 seasons they've only spent 4 seasons in the top flight and over the last few seasons have still averaged around 20k. During that time even dropped into the 4th tier of English tier. Gotta be one of the most loyal fans in the country.
Regarding size would put them alongside Blues as the 2nd biggest clubs in our area.
Villa Lew they have always had home support when they were in the 1st Division in the 70's their attendances were on a par with Coventry's
Yeah, but their crowds only looked low because the ground was in two separate posts codes back then. Or something.
At sometime around then a new stand was built behind the existing one, and when it was complete the old was demolished leaving a gap between that and the pitch. The capacity was probably not impeded, but I doubt it did much for the atmosphere.
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To say they have shit support is rubbish, since the last 34 seasons they've only spent 4 seasons in the top flight and over the last few seasons have still averaged around 20k. During that time even dropped into the 4th tier of English tier. Gotta be one of the most loyal fans in the country.
Regarding size would put them alongside Blues as the 2nd biggest clubs in our area.
Villa Lew they have always had home support when they were in the 1st Division in the 70's their attendances were on a par with Coventry's
Yeah, but their crowds only looked low because the ground was in two separate posts codes back then. Or something.
At sometime around then a new stand was built behind the existing one, and when it was complete the old was demolished leaving a gap between that and the pitch. The capacity was probably not impeded, but I doubt it did much for the atmosphere.
They had two stands condemned for ages. The fucking tramps.
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A game where the Villa can show the rest of the division some intent, win today and those above us will start to look over their shoulders. Come on the Villa.
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Regarding size would put them alongside Blues as the 2nd biggest clubs in our area.
They're much bigger than Blues, as are Albion. Which isn't really saying much.
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A game I would love us to win. Not because of them being local, but because I think they are cheating big time on the FFP rules and the agent thing with 3rd party ownership - something is seriously amiss there and will wash out eventually. Dodgy.
However, as they have 3-4 players that would probably fetch 15-25 million I fully expect us to get a pasting. Pace hurts us and they have it.
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Regarding size would put them alongside Blues as the 2nd biggest clubs in our area.
They're much bigger than Blues, as are Albion. Which isn't really saying much.
I believe Warwick Davis is much bigger than Vern Troyer.
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Been in pub ten minutes and won seventy quid on the horses. It's our lucky day!
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Guinness please.
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On its way, bab.
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Bargain basement all trains north of Crewe are delayed and have jumped on an earlier scheduled one utv and well done British rail
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Wooah Terry is on Tinder
Wooah he's messaging your sister
Wooah he always gets his end away!
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Hutton in then
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Wooah Terry is on Tinder
Wooah he's messaging your sister
Wooah he always gets his end away!
Welcome back Stiney :)
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Been in pub ten minutes and won seventy quid on the horses. It's our lucky day!
Nothing can possibly go wrong now.
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May as well sell DeLaet in January
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Ffs Hutton at LB.
Bruce is one of those managers that confuse being around a long time with experience. Hutton is shit in his own position he is even worse anywhere else.
They clearly will target him
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I don't think anyone will be surprised by Hutton's inclusion. The only thing I can say in defence of the selection is Bruce said at the start of the season that RDL will need to be brought back slowly into the fold. A bit more slowly than I'd like.
I blame Taylor for this though, not Bruce/Hutton. His tackle was reckless, unnecessary and stupid.
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No match thread?
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If not Hutton, who? Don't think there is anyone else.
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De Laet
Borg
Bjarnason (only joking)
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No match thread?
PWS should be starting it if we want to win.
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The only positive about Hutton at left back is that at least it isn’t Bjarnason.
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If not Hutton, who? Don't think there is anyone else.
He’s had a go there before and it was horrifying. Should be fun
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Beat down incoming. You have been warned. :-X
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Would be very happy with a draw today. We'd be 6th and only 4 behind 1st, 2nd and 3rd.
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Would be very happy with a draw today. We'd be 6th and only 4 behind 1st, 2nd and 3rd.
4th