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Title: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 11, 2017, 06:47:46 PM
Championship
Saturday 14 October, 17:30
Molineux Stadium


1-1
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: mallo on October 11, 2017, 06:51:36 PM
Happy with a draw there. 1-1 as well.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Nev on October 11, 2017, 06:57:11 PM
I suspect a draw. It seems like years since I've felt this level of anticipation for a game.

We trade this sort of excitement for the status of being in the Premier League where the only things at stake would be local pride and the possibilty of relegation. Despite the drawbacks, we should enjoy these days while we can.

1-1.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on October 11, 2017, 06:57:34 PM
Going for 0-1 Snodgrass Would like to see Jedinak in there probably for Whelan. But do you change a winning team ?? De Laet LB ......
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on October 11, 2017, 07:04:43 PM
The most important game for a long time.
Must not lose.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: l_mckay on October 11, 2017, 08:05:31 PM
Hoping for a draw. 2-2
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: olaftab on October 11, 2017, 08:16:43 PM
I can't see us losing this so it's just a question of whether we can do enough to win. Wolves are not all that.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on October 11, 2017, 08:16:48 PM
We'll do these bastards
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: preston28 on October 11, 2017, 08:21:43 PM
I think we'll win 2-0. Adomah and Kodja to score!
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: supertom on October 11, 2017, 08:31:06 PM
We don't give much away these days. A draw would be a good result. I can see us showing some real intent and grabbing the win. It won't be pretty. We'll have to grind it and nick it, but I fancy we'll do it. Kodjia magic for 1-0 (this will be where someone says his leg fell off on international duty or something).
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: LeeB on October 11, 2017, 08:35:50 PM
2-0 us. The juggernaut is moving. Wolves to fall apart afterwards and drift into mid table mediocrity.

By Christmas, we'll be stone cold certainties for promotion.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Ads on October 11, 2017, 08:36:55 PM
I think Terry is going to be huge here in the build up to get the mentality spot on.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: four fornicholl on October 11, 2017, 08:45:13 PM
A royal slapping will be given, 0-3. Don't care who.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Richard E on October 11, 2017, 08:50:32 PM
As someone who works in Wolverhampton I would really appreciate it if we could not lose this, please.

1-1
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: VancouverLion on October 11, 2017, 08:57:09 PM
1-2 Kodjia and Hogan to seal it late on.

Some Portuguese lad for them.

And the Villa go marching on on on.

UTV!
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Matt Collins on October 11, 2017, 09:06:34 PM
I'm worried about left back. I imagine it will be Hutton, against possibly the best player in the league

They're weak at set pieces so I fancy Snoddy to set up Terry, Chester or Davis to score

Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on October 11, 2017, 09:10:52 PM
I'm worried about left back. I imagine it will be Hutton, against possibly the best player in the league

They're weak at set pieces so I fancy Snoddy to set up Terry, Chester or Davis to score
Do you think Bruce might go 3 at the back?
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Ads on October 11, 2017, 09:20:12 PM
Hutton's not playing against Kodjia silly goose.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: four fornicholl on October 11, 2017, 09:24:54 PM
Hutton's not playing against Kodjia silly goose.
Honk, honk.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Clampy on October 11, 2017, 09:36:17 PM
A win would be superb. A draw would be a decent point. A defeat would be a setback but not the end of the world. I reckon it might finish 2-2 though.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: QuintonVilla on October 11, 2017, 09:45:04 PM
Defeat. We're due.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: manic-road on October 11, 2017, 09:48:06 PM
1-1 Kodjia
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Lambert and Payne on October 11, 2017, 09:55:57 PM
This is going to be an incredibly close game, they've started superbly and have a fast, free flowing frontline. We've started to find our feet and hit form, we've got the best striker in the league and Terry/Chester are really starting to build a commanding partnership

Wolves are extremely confident, and think they're going to rip Terry to shreds with their pace. Fortunately they're too thick to realise his positioning is and always has been one of his strong points.

Lets fucking have 'em.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Lizz on October 11, 2017, 09:59:47 PM
0-0.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: adrenachrome on October 11, 2017, 10:00:38 PM
The pressure will be on them, which should suit us well.

I predict a positive result.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: wittonwarrior on October 11, 2017, 10:11:17 PM
My  heart say Villa win
My  head  says low score draw
Therefore it would surprise me if we lose.

Yes left back is going to be a big problem at the stadium of dirty yellow as it was last season where Amavi got ripped apart
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on October 11, 2017, 10:13:58 PM
We, somewhat annoyingly, seem more expressive and expansive away, so I'm more optimistic of our fortune than were it at ours now.

0-2 us, JK double.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Lambert and Payne on October 11, 2017, 10:41:17 PM
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I think we've got this regardless of Villas form. I actually think it works out better for us that they're playing better than they did in their first 5 or 6 games because our players will have to go up a gear in performance and it's going to be a massacre for JT. It's gonna feel like he's got 3 Eden Hazards running at him if we start with the front 3 that started the Burton game.
How far from the 18 yard box do you think JT will stray lol - 5 yards if he's feeling brave and energetic.
Jota is on fire
Cav is on fire
Costa will probably be on fire now
Vinagre is on fire
Neves is on fire after the Burton game
Saiss is on fire
Doc is on fire
Ruddy is on fire
**** me that's a whole lotta fire there JT!!
Boly might be back - so Kodja and that kid Davies will definitely be getting a not tonight lads you're not getting in!
Wanderers 3-0 Villains


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Should be a real good game.

Got a feeling we will take it by a couple of goals......Terry to get ripped a new one by our dynamic front trio. :)

3 - 1.

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New one ripped, Wolves Win 3-0


https://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/index.php?threads/v-villa-predictions.198931/ - some confident Wolves fans, and not big fans of Terry.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Bad English on October 11, 2017, 11:16:17 PM
0-2. Dingles roundly whipped, and sent back to the dressing room with their tails between their legs.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Ads on October 11, 2017, 11:21:23 PM
That site has some delusional Dingles on it. Read the stadium expansion thread.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: saunders_heroes on October 11, 2017, 11:22:06 PM
3-1 to Villa. Wolves won’t stop us.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Des Little on October 11, 2017, 11:24:44 PM
Nailed on away win. FTF
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: tomd2103 on October 11, 2017, 11:25:43 PM
I'm worried about left back. I imagine it will be Hutton, against possibly the best player in the league

They're weak at set pieces so I fancy Snoddy to set up Terry, Chester or Davis to score
Do you think Bruce might go 3 at the back?

Don't think so after the experiment at Bristol City.  From listening to WM over the past few weeks, they apparently play a 3-4-3 but lack a real focal point up front.  I fear us getting overrun in midfield with just Whelan and Hourihane in there,
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Damo70 on October 11, 2017, 11:35:23 PM
2-1 to Wolves. I hope I'm wrong. I might even have a bet on Wolves just to jinx them.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 11, 2017, 11:36:06 PM
2-1 to Wolves. I hope I'm wrong. I might even have a bet on Wolves just to jinx them.

Make them the last game on your acca, that usually does the trick!
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Damo70 on October 11, 2017, 11:52:33 PM
2-1 to Wolves. I hope I'm wrong. I might even have a bet on Wolves just to jinx them.

Make them the last game on your acca, that usually does the trick!


Just for you, if for some reason Wolves are not the last Championship team on the coupon I will write my Championship selections onto a plain slip and put Wolves as my last selection.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: robbo1874 on October 12, 2017, 05:05:19 AM
As a sign of how far we have fallen, I’ll be happy to get a draw with Wolves. It doesn’t
Sound right saying that, but i’d Be happy with 1-1. Usually when we play them,
A draw feels like a loss, not now though. A win would really make me think we’ve turned the corner.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Ads on October 12, 2017, 06:40:31 AM
Our form doesn't count as we only battered Barnsley and Burton. It appears to be lost on them as to who they've recently played.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: sid1964 on October 12, 2017, 06:53:30 AM
wolves fans at work are really confident

They reckon if we allow them to play there normal quick passing game we will not have a chance. One of them reckons the way to beat Wolves is to play like Cardiff did against them earlier this season, to get stuck in to them, and not give them time on the ball

Therefore based on the above I can see us losing 2-1, a tough run of games coming up for Bruce.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Ads on October 12, 2017, 07:12:17 AM
They also seem to think the best centre half in the league, by an absolute mile, is our weak link. Their adolescent front three are unplayable. We're a bunch of cloggers. We will get battered. Apparently.

I don't know, maybe we will get beat. But to be fair the last time we played them we won 3-0 and won the Super Cup in the process.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: QuintonVilla on October 12, 2017, 07:35:51 AM
That site has some delusional Dingles on it. Read the stadium expansion thread.
Was reading that the other day, comedy gold. Saying they should be aiming for a 60,000 stadium and could eventually fill it every week because 'wim massive'. The irony is lost on them however that on the 'Aston Villa attendance' thread they're all getting excited because they've sold 27,000 tickets, but still haven't managed to sell out.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Lambert and Payne on October 12, 2017, 09:36:14 AM
That site has some delusional Dingles on it. Read the stadium expansion thread.
Was reading that the other day, comedy gold. Saying they should be aiming for a 60,000 stadium and could eventually fill it every week because 'wim massive'. The irony is lost on them however that on the 'Aston Villa attendance' thread they're all getting excited because they've sold 27,000 tickets, but still haven't managed to sell out.

They're a bunch of cretins on that site, the irony of those two threads is completely lost on them. They might beat us Saturday, but they're nowhere near as good as they think. Same old Wolves, I don't mind them when they're not on form, they're down to earth normal fans. But when they string a run together they think they've turned into Barcelona. They have no idea what we're capable of, this will be a close game and I really hope we knock them down a peg.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Legion on October 12, 2017, 10:25:09 AM
2-0. Back to earth with a bump.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: maigrait on October 12, 2017, 10:29:19 AM
Heart says 2-2. Head says probably 3-1 to them. I hope not, brother is a Wolves fan - it'll be endless ribbing...
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 12, 2017, 10:44:26 AM
Wolves fans are great; the right ones can provide hours of fun. When they're doing badly, which is most of the time, their capacity for self-delusion is immense. No club, ground or set of supporters can match theirs and they're like Manchester United in their belief that nothing can touch them and everyone else is jealous. A modicum of success and they're on their way to world domination - again, because beating a handful of post-war eastern European clubs in friendlies was way better than Real Madrid's five successive European Cups. Chorley never happened, they'll argue until they're puce that they never got crowds of three thousand and if you disagree me an yow ahtside now. 
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: villabear on October 12, 2017, 11:28:50 AM
Heart says 2-2. Head says probably 3-1 to them. I hope not, brother is a Wolves fan - it'll be endless ribbing...

Sorry but I'd disown him.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Drummond on October 12, 2017, 11:29:09 AM
1-2
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: darren woolley on October 12, 2017, 11:30:51 AM
We need a win to keep our promotion charge going so why not I'm going 2-1 to us.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Risso on October 12, 2017, 11:34:10 AM
A hat trick of 2-1 predictions.  Kodj and Albert for us, some random Dingle for them.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Jimbo on October 12, 2017, 11:59:44 AM
A fifth win on the slap, and an away win at that? Against the second team in the league? In a derby? On telly? Hmmm. Doesn't sound very Villa, does it?

If we win I'll consider that corner well and truly turned. I just can't see it, though. 2:0 to the dogheads. 
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on October 12, 2017, 12:03:36 PM
1-2 Fuck the Dingles
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on October 12, 2017, 12:05:05 PM
Their pace up top might be our undoing.  Still, we have goals in us now so we'll give them problems.  I'd take the draw now.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on October 12, 2017, 12:12:49 PM
A fifth win on the slap, and an away win at that? Against the second team in the league? In a derby? On telly? Hmmm. Doesn't sound very Villa, does it?

If we win I'll consider that corner well and truly turned. I just can't see it, though. 2:0 to the dogheads. 

Might be wrong but I don't think we've lost to Wolves in a televised game. 
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: ironmaidenmania on October 12, 2017, 12:19:18 PM
These three games this month are so important. However I can't see us winning this one. We'll go down 1-0.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Lambert and Payne on October 12, 2017, 12:24:44 PM
A fifth win on the slap, and an away win at that? Against the second team in the league? In a derby? On telly? Hmmm. Doesn't sound very Villa, does it?

If we win I'll consider that corner well and truly turned. I just can't see it, though. 2:0 to the dogheads. 
Might be wrong but I don't think we've lost to Wolves in a televised game. 

Last season.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Villa Lew on October 12, 2017, 12:33:47 PM
I think last time we won 5 league games on the trot was in the 97-98 season. So the odds of achieving that again are very much against us. If they are at their best, 2-1 Wolves.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on October 12, 2017, 12:50:30 PM


Lose this one and i wont be able to show my face in the local for the next month or two.

You wouldn't believe how jumped up all the local dogheads have been of late. You'd think they were Barcelona, i'm not kidding.

It's as if they've won the league and are awaiting being crowned Champions of Europe. Absolute fuckiwts.

About 5% have been to watch an actual match in the last 20 years of course ...

Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on October 12, 2017, 12:52:15 PM
Their pace up top might be our undoing.  Still, we have goals in us now so we'll give them problems.  I'd take the draw now.

It's their midfield that concerns me more.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Axl Rose on October 12, 2017, 12:57:53 PM
An exhilarating 3-3 draw.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on October 12, 2017, 01:01:46 PM
Terry will be fully rested as will Whelan and Hourianne as neither had any game time.

The game hinges on 2 issues

1. The troublesome LB slot - either of Hutton or Bjork will really weaken us - even though only a kid we should put Clark there or DeLaet who is used to that role
2. Bruce's mentality. If he goes to sit back and soak up then we could be in trouble - I really think the best way to nullify their attack is to make them worry about ours more.

The most important thing for me is that over the recent turn up in results I am really looking forward to this game - really make a change from being a chore.

Queue a miserable defeat  :(
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Ads on October 12, 2017, 01:02:22 PM
Wolves fans are great; the right ones can provide hours of fun. When they're doing badly, which is most of the time, their capacity for self-delusion is immense. No club, ground or set of supporters can match theirs and they're like Manchester United in their belief that nothing can touch them and everyone else is jealous. A modicum of success and they're on their way to world domination - again, because beating a handful of post-war eastern European clubs in friendlies was way better than Real Madrid's five successive European Cups. Chorley never happened, they'll argue until they're puce that they never got crowds of three thousand and if you disagree me an yow ahtside now. 

It wont surprise you then that we're shit as we've only beat Barnsley, Burton and Forest (who coincidentally are the three sides they've beaten in their last four games) and on their march towards Premier League glory will need to share our ground with us while they build a 60,000 seater.

And no, I am not joking.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: tony scott on October 12, 2017, 01:03:05 PM
I can see a 0:0 here
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Lambert and Payne on October 12, 2017, 01:06:15 PM
Terry will be fully rested as will Whelan and Hourianne as neither had any game time.

The game hinges on 2 issues

1. The troublesome LB slot - either of Hutton or Bjork will really weaken us - even though only a kid we should put Clark there or DeLaet who is used to that role
2. Bruce's mentality. If he goes to sit back and soak up then we could be in trouble - I really think the best way to nullify their attack is to make them worry about ours more.

The most important thing for me is that over the recent turn up in results I am really looking forward to this game - really make a change from being a chore.

Queue a miserable defeat  :(

If we go there to attack they'll counter us and rip us to pieces on the break. Bruce's usual soak up pressure and take our chances would suit us more here. Kodjia, Adomah and Snodgrass are key for us here, we need to take our chances.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Lambert and Payne on October 12, 2017, 01:10:10 PM
Wolves fans are great; the right ones can provide hours of fun. When they're doing badly, which is most of the time, their capacity for self-delusion is immense. No club, ground or set of supporters can match theirs and they're like Manchester United in their belief that nothing can touch them and everyone else is jealous. A modicum of success and they're on their way to world domination - again, because beating a handful of post-war eastern European clubs in friendlies was way better than Real Madrid's five successive European Cups. Chorley never happened, they'll argue until they're puce that they never got crowds of three thousand and if you disagree me an yow ahtside now. 

It wont surprise you then that we're shit as we've only beat Barnsley, Burton and Forest (who coincidentally are the three sides they've beaten in their last four games) and on their march towards Premier League glory will need to share our ground with us while they build a 60,000 seater.

And no, I am not joking.

Hopefully they decide to rebuild the ground and are forced into a groundshare with Albion, though I can't see anyone letting them groundshare, least of all Albion. Then they'd come back to their 60,000 seated stadium completely unable to half fill it.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: QuintonVilla on October 12, 2017, 02:06:55 PM
Facts are they're 2nd in the league, playing their best football for years and they're playing the biggest team in the region on Saturday. Yet they can't hit 30,000 and are wetting their pants at selling 27,000 home tickets. If roles were reversed how many would we get? I reckon we'd have got 36/37k maybe more, if we were 2nd in the league.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on October 12, 2017, 02:35:44 PM
Facts are they're 2nd in the league, playing their best football for years and they're playing the biggest team in the region on Saturday. Yet they can't hit 30,000 and are wetting their pants at selling 27,000 home tickets. If roles were reversed how many would we get? I reckon we'd have got 36/37k maybe more, if we were 2nd in the league.

When we are 2nd
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Villa75 on October 12, 2017, 03:01:05 PM
If our team falls apart just because Taylor is out we really are fucked this season.

Do people really think our success, or not, hangs on such a delicate thread?
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on October 12, 2017, 04:47:15 PM
If we go there to attack they'll counter us and rip us to pieces on the break

Any reason why we can't hit them on the counter and rip them to pieces ? It's Wolves we're playing not Madrid  ;D
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Smirker on October 12, 2017, 04:47:25 PM
A fifth win on the slap, and an away win at that? Against the second team in the league? In a derby? On telly? Hmmm. Doesn't sound very Villa, does it?

If we win I'll consider that corner well and truly turned. I just can't see it, though. 2:0 to the dogheads.

We have turned a corner. We will win.

Please believe it.

2-1 Villa.

The Kodge will score from open play.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on October 12, 2017, 04:49:04 PM
If our team falls apart just because Taylor is out we really are fucked this season.

Do people really think our success, or not, hangs on such a delicate thread?

I don't know, but it's about time Taylor got some long overdue praise. Came in, seemingly unwanted by most, got his head down and to me has been as good a left back as we've had in years. Solid, unspectacular but a perfect fit
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Clampy on October 12, 2017, 04:55:12 PM
If our team falls apart just because Taylor is out we really are fucked this season.

Do people really think our success, or not, hangs on such a delicate thread?

I don't know, but it's about time Taylor got some long overdue praise. Came in, seemingly unwanted by most, got his head down and to me has been as good a left back as we've had in years. Solid, unspectacular but a perfect fit

Absolutely. I can't think of too many games where i've come away thinking he's been poor.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: ktvillan on October 12, 2017, 06:13:25 PM
Should be a real test of whether Bruce has turned the corner with us or we've just been recent flat track bullies.  Based on what I've seen of us I fear the latter and I'm going for a 2-0 defeat.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: clash city rocker on October 12, 2017, 06:24:20 PM
Must say that Taylor has been a plus for us. Never going to be a headline grabber but at this level he does what he is supposed to do.  ... He does his job
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: russon on October 12, 2017, 06:59:11 PM
2-0 Wolves. One (or four) swallows do not a summer make.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on October 12, 2017, 07:03:36 PM
I am looking forward to it. We have played some pretty entertaining stuff recently. Should be a good game.

As for Wolves, well they are the least annoying other local club of decent size so thats something :)
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Richard on October 12, 2017, 08:28:19 PM
Will we join together to sing shit on the City/Albion I wonder 😎

Some clown on Villa Talk thinks Lambert is still their boss

1-1 I reckon although Wolves fan at work thinks 3-0 to them the joker
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: exigo on October 12, 2017, 08:32:26 PM
New ground. Birthday weekend.
What could possibly go wrong?
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Matt Collins on October 12, 2017, 09:16:21 PM
A fifth win on the slap, and an away win at that? Against the second team in the league? In a derby? On telly? Hmmm. Doesn't sound very Villa, does it?

If we win I'll consider that corner well and truly turned. I just can't see it, though. 2:0 to the dogheads. 

Might be wrong but I don't think we've lost to Wolves in a televised game. 

Not for a whole year
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Lambert and Payne on October 12, 2017, 09:39:22 PM
If we go there to attack they'll counter us and rip us to pieces on the break

Any reason why we can't hit them on the counter and rip them to pieces ? It's Wolves we're playing not Madrid  ;D

That's the way to play them. Soak up the pressure and counter them. If we go attacking they'll pick us to pieces
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on October 12, 2017, 09:49:51 PM
1-1. Tough game but we'll be better than last season there which shouldn't be too hard.

Get the feeling though it will be a 1-1 with us nicking a goal and then hanging on for dear life in the last 20 minutes. Rather than dominating and controlling the game which looks a stretch given how we usually play and the quality Wolves have in midfield.

Would love to be proved wrong though. Performance to me is as important as a result in this one. Go toe to toe with a genuine promotion rival and I'd be pretty happy. Meekly losing like we did there last year would set off the alarm bells again.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Damo70 on October 12, 2017, 10:21:51 PM
I'm pretty sure Wolves v Villa was the second televised live league game when it all started back in 1983. 1-1.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: QuintonVilla on October 12, 2017, 10:25:03 PM
If we go there to attack they'll counter us and rip us to pieces on the break

Any reason why we can't hit them on the counter and rip them to pieces ? It's Wolves we're playing not Madrid  ;D

That's the way to play them. Soak up the pressure and counter them. If we go attacking they'll pick us to pieces
Reading Molineux Mix you would think we are playing Madrid. They're already a bigger club than us and will be a European powerhouse within a couple of years according to some. Reading that forum has helped pass the hours at work this week. It will be an even more interesting read if we win.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Ads on October 12, 2017, 11:07:38 PM
There's at least 16 Villa in the upper tier above the away end that I know of, so we're doing our bit to sell out for them.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Ads on October 12, 2017, 11:13:09 PM
Holy moly they're out in force on their website.

Bigger club than the Vile bay we
More fans bay we
Birmingham is mainly Blues bay it

They're on another planet.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 12, 2017, 11:17:45 PM
And they're all dead hard real lads and we're all a bunch of jessies. How very quaint.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: tomd2103 on October 12, 2017, 11:17:54 PM
If we go there to attack they'll counter us and rip us to pieces on the break

Any reason why we can't hit them on the counter and rip them to pieces ? It's Wolves we're playing not Madrid  ;D

That's the way to play them. Soak up the pressure and counter them. If we go attacking they'll pick us to pieces
Reading Molineux Mix you would think we are playing Madrid. They're already a bigger club than us and will be a European powerhouse within a couple of years according to some. Reading that forum has helped pass the hours at work this week. It will be an even more interesting read if we win.

Couple of defeats and it will be a different story.  "He's gorra goo".
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Ads on October 12, 2017, 11:18:51 PM
And they're all dead hard real lads and we're all a bunch of jessies. How very quaint.

It's like LSD is being added to their water supply.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Damo70 on October 12, 2017, 11:20:02 PM
And they're all dead hard real lads and we're all a bunch of jessies. How very quaint.

It's like LSD is being added to their water supply.


Wolverhampton has a water supply?
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 12, 2017, 11:21:45 PM
And they're having HS2 extended to Wolverhampton.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: QuintonVilla on October 12, 2017, 11:28:36 PM
There's at least 16 Villa in the upper tier above the away end that I know of, so we're doing our bit to sell out for them.
I know of a fair few in there aswell.

Hopefully the atmosphere is better this season in our end. It was horrendous last season, one of the worst aways I've done, although not having a shot didn't help and that away end is crap.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Ads on October 12, 2017, 11:59:13 PM
And they're all dead hard real lads and we're all a bunch of jessies. How very quaint.

It's like LSD is being added to their water supply.


Wolverhampton has a water supply?

Got to get water to the horses somehow.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: adrenachrome on October 13, 2017, 12:40:28 AM
Holy moly they're out in force on their website.

Bigger club than the Vile bay we
More fans bay we
Birmingham is mainly Blues bay it

They're on another planet.

They must have meant The Vale aka Burslem whom they have played more than us in recent times.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Clampy on October 13, 2017, 08:40:33 AM
I've said this before but Wolves fans are more fickle than most. If they win two, they're going up. If they lose two, get rid of the manager. Other than that, I don't mind them all that much. They're much more bearable than the other two who seem to hate us more than they like themselves.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on October 13, 2017, 10:03:32 AM
2-0 Wolves. One (or four) swallows do not a summer make.

But a Bukkake party it does :)
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Lambert and Payne on October 13, 2017, 10:51:24 AM
There's at least 16 Villa in the upper tier above the away end that I know of, so we're doing our bit to sell out for them.
I know of a fair few in there aswell.

Hopefully the atmosphere is better this season in our end. It was horrendous last season, one of the worst aways I've done, although not having a shot didn't help and that away end is crap.

Rubbish away stand, and villa fans split between 2 stands and 3 tiers didn't exactly help. Nor did going 1 down early on. The stand on the sideline is hard to make an atmosphere because of its curved effect means you're so spread out.


I've said this before but Wolves fans are more fickle than most. If they win two, they're going up. If they lose two, get rid of the manager. Other than that, I don't mind them all that much. They're much more bearable than the other two who seem to hate us more than they like themselves.

Quite. We get a lot of stick for it, deservedly so most of the time, but Wolves really are on another planet. They signed a polish lad called Zyro a few years ago and he scored a hattrick on his debut, I had 3 of them tell me he was going to go on and play for Madrid or Barca one day, two weeks later he was shite and not fit for their reserves.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on October 13, 2017, 10:58:41 AM
There was a great atmosphere for the Robbie Keane game, one of my favourite Villa away games.

I like Molinuex as a ground, much better than the awful warehouse grounds like Reading that are f***ing miles away from the town centre.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Lobsterboy on October 13, 2017, 12:49:51 PM
I don't usually look forward to televised games (for obvious reasons) but hopeful of a good performance and a positive result.

They are going well so think it will be a hard fought draw - will go for 1-1 with Kodjia for us and some Portugese chap for them
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Three Spires Villa on October 13, 2017, 01:02:24 PM
1-0 Wplves just to edge it.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: wittonwarrior on October 13, 2017, 01:16:50 PM
Pass the ball back wanderers
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Richard E on October 13, 2017, 01:36:50 PM
Holy moly they're out in force on their website.

Bigger club than the Vile bay we
More fans bay we
Birmingham is mainly Blues bay it

They're on another planet.

You’re talking about Wolverhampton, where the opening of a new Debenhams is the spectacle of a lifetime.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on October 13, 2017, 02:12:10 PM
And they're having HS2 extended to Wolverhampton.
Give them something new to point at.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 13, 2017, 02:20:24 PM
To put it into context, with hindsight the most sadly deluded/optimistic we were was when Randy arrived and we were talking about worldwide marketing, IMG signing us the best players and would we be better off extending Villa Park to hold 55,000 or moving. But, and this is the big difference, at that time we were an established Premier League club who were regulars in Europe and had some top-class players. Wolves have spent more time in the past 33 years in the bottom two divisions than in the top one.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: andyh on October 13, 2017, 02:22:41 PM
I'm pretty sure Wolves v Villa was the second televised live league game when it all started back in 1983. 1-1.
It was, and the headlines the following day read 'snore bore'!!
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Lambert and Payne on October 13, 2017, 03:28:50 PM
"When Villa won the league in 1981 and followed it up with the European title they took the mantle of the west midlands biggest club, no argument possible,but for 60 years before that Wolves were the top club in the region by a mile , 3 league titles, 2 fa cups, 2 league cups and a European final to Villa's I fa cup and 2 league cups (I don't count their 1961 as we didn't enter). Most of Villas history was between 1890 and 1920 fact !"

If you don't count the trophies before Wolves one a thing or two, they were a bigger club...
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on October 13, 2017, 03:31:30 PM
Holy moly they're out in force on their website.

Bigger club than the Vile bay we
More fans bay we
Birmingham is mainly Blues bay it

They're on another planet.

You’re talking about Wolverhampton, where the opening of a new Debenhams is the spectacle of a lifetime.

And where the residents visit the Black Country Museum to get a glimpse of what their life will be like in the future....
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: PeterWithe on October 13, 2017, 04:02:04 PM
Dont mind the tatters at all and had I got a ticket and the circumstances been different I'd be spending the day in one of my favourite pubs near the ground having a few beers with mates who follow them. Also got split family loyalty so I really hope that my premonition of a heavy defeat doesn't comes to fruition.

They dont half talk all funny mind.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: bill on October 13, 2017, 04:17:04 PM
"When Villa won the league in 1981 and followed it up with the European title they took the mantle of the west midlands biggest club, no argument possible,but for 60 years before that Wolves were the top club in the region by a mile , 3 league titles, 2 fa cups, 2 league cups and a European final to Villa's I fa cup and 2 league cups (I don't count their 1961 as we didn't enter). Most of Villas history was between 1890 and 1920 fact !"

If you don't count the trophies before Wolves one a thing or two, they were a bigger club...

Like many people, you equate size to trophies won. To me that makes them more successful, not bigger.By your rule Nottingham Forest, Derby Co. we’re bigger than Man Utd in the seventies, they weren’t. To me there is only one measure , and that’s how many fans do you have. Big clubs can win trophies and small clubs can win trophies. It makes no difference to their size, only their stature.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 13, 2017, 04:50:31 PM
It's not just fans either, only Man Utd and Arsenal have ever had a higher average attendance than West Ham had last season, 11K higher than our best ever. Doesn't mean they're one of the biggest club in the country. Or bigger than us.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Ads on October 13, 2017, 05:03:33 PM
We're bigger than the Wolves by a country fucking mile.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Richard E on October 13, 2017, 05:05:05 PM
Holy moly they're out in force on their website.

Bigger club than the Vile bay we
More fans bay we
Birmingham is mainly Blues bay it

They're on another planet.

You’re talking about Wolverhampton, where the opening of a new Debenhams is the spectacle of a lifetime.

And where the residents visit the Black Country Museum to get a glimpse of what their life will be like in the future....

That is a quality comment. <Applause>
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Richard E on October 13, 2017, 05:06:03 PM
We're bigger than the Wolves by a country f-ing mile.
Always have been, always will be.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 13, 2017, 05:08:59 PM
It's not even close. Since we won the European Cup they've spent 5 seasons in the top flight. Highest finish since then is 15th. 0 proper cup finals. A decent sized club no arguments, but no one with an IQ higher than a dead wombat's would even have them in the same conversation as us.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on October 13, 2017, 05:13:29 PM
Holy moly they're out in force on their website.

Bigger club than the Vile bay we
More fans bay we
Birmingham is mainly Blues bay it

They're on another planet.

You’re talking about Wolverhampton, where the opening of a new Debenhams is the spectacle of a lifetime.

And where the residents visit the Black Country Museum to get a glimpse of what their life will be like in the future....

Spit out drink funny moment

Bravo Sir.   That will noted and used I assure you
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 13, 2017, 05:14:34 PM
My opinion of Wolverhampton

Sod all to do today so thought I'd have a ride on the tram. Up to West Brom for a wander round then to Wolverhampton for a wander and then back. Tram is ace. Only an extra quid to use it on top of a normal bus daysaver. Wolverhampton is shit. It's like a crap Burnley.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Richard E on October 13, 2017, 05:18:50 PM
My opinion of Wolverhampton

Sod all to do today so thought I'd have a ride on the tram. Up to West Brom for a wander round then to Wolverhampton for a wander and then back. Tram is ace. Only an extra quid to use it on top of a normal bus daysaver. Wolverhampton is shit. It's like a crap Burnley.

I work there every working day. Imagine my life.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: spangley1812 on October 13, 2017, 05:41:08 PM
Bit of Travel advice

If your going on the Tram it doesn't go all the way to Wolverhampton currently, you need to get off @ The Crescent and then you have to wait for a bus....Can be a pain
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: leylandalbion on October 13, 2017, 06:01:38 PM
Was there last year and agree that it was dismal day.  Got started by eating at Morrison's opposite pre game and having fish and chips which had more bone than fish.  Pivotal tomorrow, if we get a result I can see a great few months
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on October 13, 2017, 06:03:27 PM
"When Villa won the league in 1981 and followed it up with the European title they took the mantle of the west midlands biggest club, no argument possible,but for 60 years before that Wolves were the top club in the region by a mile , 3 league titles, 2 fa cups, 2 league cups and a European final to Villa's I fa cup and 2 league cups (I don't count their 1961 as we didn't enter). Most of Villas history was between 1890 and 1920 fact !"

If you don't count the trophies before Wolves one a thing or two, they were a bigger club...

Like many people, you equate size to trophies won. To me that makes them more successful, not bigger.By your rule Nottingham Forest, Derby Co. we’re bigger than Man Utd in the seventies, they weren’t. To me there is only one measure , and that’s how many fans do you have. Big clubs can win trophies and small clubs can win trophies. It makes no difference to their size, only their stature.

No, that makes Forest and Derby better than Man United in the seventies, of which there is little doubt. Just as Bournemouth are better than us now.

Doesn't make them bigger. Your size is based on the entirety of your club's history. We were still massive even in our darkest days, because of all the trophies we had already won, just as we are massive now and will be even if we don't play in the top flight for a decade.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on October 13, 2017, 06:04:12 PM
Bit of Travel advice

If your going on the Tram it doesn't go all the way to Wolverhampton currently, you need to get off @ The Crescent and then you have to wait for a bus....Can be a pain

I was planning on going to Bilston. Is the Crescent further from the ground or closer?
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Richard E on October 13, 2017, 06:04:52 PM
Bit of Travel advice

If your going on the Tram it doesn't go all the way to Wolverhampton currently, you need to get off @ The Crescent and then you have to wait for a bus....Can be a pain

I was planning on going to Bilston. Is the Crescent further from the ground or closer?
Closer. Next stop after Bilston Central.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on October 13, 2017, 06:09:50 PM
Ta.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Legion on October 13, 2017, 06:16:51 PM
Holy moly they're out in force on their website.

Bigger club than the Vile bay we
More fans bay we
Birmingham is mainly Blues bay it

They're on another planet.

You’re talking about Wolverhampton, where the opening of a new Debenhams is the spectacle of a lifetime.

And where the residents visit the Black Country Museum to get a glimpse of what their life will be like in the future....

That is a quality comment. <Applause>

Very. Have they got electricity and running water yet?
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: clash city rocker on October 13, 2017, 07:03:37 PM
Wulves a bin to good since ourr  stevie jacked in. But let me tell yo villa lot sumat. Weem on the up see and it wo b long til we wins fings in the eec. Yo lot wo know what's hit ya when yo heer the Wulves roor tomorra...
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: levico on October 13, 2017, 07:05:20 PM
Same as last season. 1-0 to them.

We are better than last year but so are they.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 13, 2017, 08:56:03 PM
Bit of Travel advice

If your going on the Tram it doesn't go all the way to Wolverhampton currently, you need to get off @ The Crescent and then you have to wait for a bus....Can be a pain

I was planning on going to Bilston. Is the Crescent further from the ground or closer?
Closer. Next stop after Bilston Central.

Bilston's miles from Wolverhampton. You're just after orange chips again.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: spangley1812 on October 13, 2017, 09:01:55 PM
Bit of Travel advice

If your going on the Tram it doesn't go all the way to Wolverhampton currently, you need to get off @ The Crescent and then you have to wait for a bus....Can be a pain

I was planning on going to Bilston. Is the Crescent further from the ground or closer?
Closer. Next stop after Bilston Central.

Bilston's miles from Wolverhampton. You're just after orange chips again.

In his defence Major's is a quality chippie
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Smirker on October 13, 2017, 09:33:40 PM
If we win tomorrow we will only be 2 points off top spot  :o 8)
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Lambert and Payne on October 13, 2017, 09:56:07 PM
"When Villa won the league in 1981 and followed it up with the European title they took the mantle of the west midlands biggest club, no argument possible,but for 60 years before that Wolves were the top club in the region by a mile , 3 league titles, 2 fa cups, 2 league cups and a European final to Villa's I fa cup and 2 league cups (I don't count their 1961 as we didn't enter). Most of Villas history was between 1890 and 1920 fact !"

If you don't count the trophies before Wolves one a thing or two, they were a bigger club...

Like many people, you equate size to trophies won. To me that makes them more successful, not bigger.By your rule Nottingham Forest, Derby Co. we’re bigger than Man Utd in the seventies, they weren’t. To me there is only one measure , and that’s how many fans do you have. Big clubs can win trophies and small clubs can win trophies. It makes no difference to their size, only their stature.

No, it's a mixture of a lot of things. Past, present, future and support being the key for me.

Wolves are joint second biggest club in the midlands for me. They're pretty much on a par with Albion IMO. But neither are anything close to us
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Villa75 on October 13, 2017, 10:11:59 PM
Two great results for us tonight.

Big, BIG, game tomorrow. Let's not fuck this up, Villa!
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: QuintonVilla on October 13, 2017, 10:15:31 PM
"When Villa won the league in 1981 and followed it up with the European title they took the mantle of the west midlands biggest club, no argument possible,but for 60 years before that Wolves were the top club in the region by a mile , 3 league titles, 2 fa cups, 2 league cups and a European final to Villa's I fa cup and 2 league cups (I don't count their 1961 as we didn't enter). Most of Villas history was between 1890 and 1920 fact !"

If you don't count the trophies before Wolves one a thing or two, they were a bigger club...

Like many people, you equate size to trophies won. To me that makes them more successful, not bigger.By your rule Nottingham Forest, Derby Co. we’re bigger than Man Utd in the seventies, they weren’t. To me there is only one measure , and that’s how many fans do you have. Big clubs can win trophies and small clubs can win trophies. It makes no difference to their size, only their stature.

No, it's a mixture of a lot of things. Past, present, future and support being the key for me.

Wolves are joint second biggest club in the midlands for me. They're pretty much on a par with Albion IMO. But neither are anything close to us
Wolves are bigger than Albion. Far more potential there.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: rob_bridge on October 13, 2017, 10:22:10 PM
"When Villa won the league in 1981 and followed it up with the European title they took the mantle of the west midlands biggest club, no argument possible,but for 60 years before that Wolves were the top club in the region by a mile , 3 league titles, 2 fa cups, 2 league cups and a European final to Villa's I fa cup and 2 league cups (I don't count their 1961 as we didn't enter). Most of Villas history was between 1890 and 1920 fact !"

If you don't count the trophies before Wolves one a thing or two, they were a bigger club...

Like many people, you equate size to trophies won. To me that makes them more successful, not bigger.By your rule Nottingham Forest, Derby Co. we’re bigger than Man Utd in the seventies, they weren’t. To me there is only one measure , and that’s how many fans do you have. Big clubs can win trophies and small clubs can win trophies. It makes no difference to their size, only their stature.

No, it's a mixture of a lot of things. Past, present, future and support being the key for me.

Wolves are joint second biggest club in the midlands for me. They're pretty much on a par with Albion IMO. But neither are anything close to us
Wolves are bigger than Albion. Far more potential there.

Wolves bigger than Albion for me too. Not keen on either but looking at it objectively put Wolves and Derby as 2nd biggest Midlands clubs
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Lambert and Payne on October 14, 2017, 07:39:21 AM
"When Villa won the league in 1981 and followed it up with the European title they took the mantle of the west midlands biggest club, no argument possible,but for 60 years before that Wolves were the top club in the region by a mile , 3 league titles, 2 fa cups, 2 league cups and a European final to Villa's I fa cup and 2 league cups (I don't count their 1961 as we didn't enter). Most of Villas history was between 1890 and 1920 fact !"

If you don't count the trophies before Wolves one a thing or two, they were a bigger club...

Like many people, you equate size to trophies won. To me that makes them more successful, not bigger.By your rule Nottingham Forest, Derby Co. we’re bigger than Man Utd in the seventies, they weren’t. To me there is only one measure , and that’s how many fans do you have. Big clubs can win trophies and small clubs can win trophies. It makes no difference to their size, only their stature.

No, it's a mixture of a lot of things. Past, present, future and support being the key for me.

Wolves are joint second biggest club in the midlands for me. They're pretty much on a par with Albion IMO. But neither are anything close to us
Wolves are bigger than Albion. Far more potential there.

Wolves bigger than Albion for me too. Not keen on either but looking at it objectively put Wolves and Derby as 2nd biggest Midlands clubs

Similar history and fan base, wolves have more potential, but Albion are better at present.

I think considering Wolves is a one club city, with lots of areas to pull fans, there support is actually pretty poor
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: olaftab on October 14, 2017, 08:44:18 AM
Holy moly they're out in force on their website.

Bigger club than the Vile bay we
More fans bay we
Birmingham is mainly Blues bay it

They're on another planet.

You’re talking about Wolverhampton, where the opening of a new Debenhams is the spectacle of a lifetime.
Yes they now have the status  equivalent to Justice world's from being incarcerated  to tagged.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Richard E on October 14, 2017, 08:48:51 AM
Who's bigger - Wolves or Albion? - is two bald men arguing over a comb.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Meanwood Villa on October 14, 2017, 08:50:12 AM
Surely in any discussion of size of club periods of sustained "success" have to be a primary factor. Now success can be defined in a number of ways but let's go with being in the top flight as one example of it. We are living through a rare occurrence, a historical aberration that sees Villa in the second tier. For the Wolves of the last 30 plus years this is the norm. 4 seasons in the elite division in 34 years. Maybe in 1974 Wolves could look at the post war era and say they were bigger than us but everything that has happened since then has put us so far ahead that the very idea of them being bigger than us is frankly insane.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on October 14, 2017, 08:54:48 AM
It's time to put these in their place.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: olaftab on October 14, 2017, 08:59:00 AM
Who is bigger Villa/Wolves is a ridiculous comparison. Wolves are a natural second tier club who occasionally appear in the top division say one every 30 years whereas Villa are the exact opposite.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: olaftab on October 14, 2017, 09:05:31 AM
"When Villa won the league in 1981 and followed it up with the European title they took the mantle of the west midlands biggest club,
No arsehole (not you L&P) when we did that we took the mantle of biggest club in Europe not just England or West Midlands.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: aldridgeboy on October 14, 2017, 10:14:13 AM
I’m going to my first away game in years !!

And sitting in the Billy Wright stand 🙁
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: wittonwarrior on October 14, 2017, 10:19:50 AM
Wolves traditionally bigger than  the Villa is like saying we are bigger than Man United or Real Madrid.

As for Wolves v Olbion its like asking  what is better a turd or a shit.  Still think they have shit support for the  area they cover as a one City team. 

I like the Wolves tradition, plenty of player, official  and manager interchange during the course of our histories.  Their kit again was based on the Villa kit style wise.  It's just its Wolves - they do need to own  mirrors though in Wolverhampton.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Villa Lew on October 14, 2017, 10:41:37 AM
To say they have shit support is rubbish, since the last 34 seasons they've only spent 4 seasons in the top flight and over the last few seasons have still averaged around 20k. During that time even dropped into the 4th tier of English tier. Gotta be one of the most loyal fans in the country.

Regarding size would put them alongside Blues as the 2nd biggest clubs in our area.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 14, 2017, 10:43:11 AM
To say they have shit support is rubbish, since the last 34 seasons they've only spent 4 seasons in the top flight and over the last few seasons have still averaged around 20k. During that time even dropped into the 4th tier of English tier. Gotta be one of the most loyal fans in the country.

Regarding size would put them alongside Blues as the 2nd biggest clubs in our area.

And their support during that time in the fourth division?
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on October 14, 2017, 10:44:34 AM
Bit of Travel advice

If your going on the Tram it doesn't go all the way to Wolverhampton currently, you need to get off @ The Crescent and then you have to wait for a bus....Can be a pain

I was planning on going to Bilston. Is the Crescent further from the ground or closer?
Closer. Next stop after Bilston Central.

Bilston's miles from Wolverhampton. You're just after orange chips again.

You know me too well.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Lambert and Payne on October 14, 2017, 10:46:30 AM
To say they have shit support is rubbish, since the last 34 seasons they've only spent 4 seasons in the top flight and over the last few seasons have still averaged around 20k. During that time even dropped into the 4th tier of English tier. Gotta be one of the most loyal fans in the country.

Regarding size would put them alongside Blues as the 2nd biggest clubs in our area.

Blues are absolutely nowhere near the 2nd biggest club in the area, nowhere near. They're on par with Coventry, and that's only come about in the last 15 years.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Clampy on October 14, 2017, 10:51:42 AM
Bit of Travel advice

If your going on the Tram it doesn't go all the way to Wolverhampton currently, you need to get off @ The Crescent and then you have to wait for a bus....Can be a pain

I was planning on going to Bilston. Is the Crescent further from the ground or closer?
Closer. Next stop after Bilston Central.

Bilston's miles from Wolverhampton. You're just after orange chips again.

You know me too well.

The orange chips in Bilston are wonderful.

Sorry, I meant bostin.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: QuintonVilla on October 14, 2017, 11:03:13 AM
They're counting down how many tickets are left on Molineux Mix and getting excited because there's only 200 left bless 'em. If they'd given us 4000 they'd have sold out last week  ;)
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on October 14, 2017, 11:06:28 AM
0-5. Fuck the fuckers.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: john e on October 14, 2017, 11:38:36 AM
Villa
Wolves
Blues/WBA

in that order for me, i can’t work out who is the biggest between Blues and wba so I put them joint
but Wolves are bigger than them both in imo
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on October 14, 2017, 11:41:28 AM
West Brom are thousands of times bigger than Small Heath, as are Wolves.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Legion on October 14, 2017, 11:44:52 AM
So are Rushall Olympic.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: auntiesledd on October 14, 2017, 11:50:45 AM
I'd be happy with a point - yet still hope we can find a way of snaffling all 3. Dare I dream the dream?

Hmmmmmmm...

UTV
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on October 14, 2017, 11:51:39 AM
Inspired by a post on the Other Games thread, I thought this was interesting. Not just the oldest derby but the (joint) oldest league match.

http://www.football-stadiums.co.uk/articles/first-ever-football-matches/
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: postal on October 14, 2017, 12:09:41 PM
A draw would be ok, but I think it will show how far we have come as a team to be more robust.
 Wolves might just have a little more.

Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: olaftab on October 14, 2017, 12:13:58 PM
Wolves traditionally bigger than  the Villa is like saying we are bigger than Man United or Real Madrid.
Are you saying we are not? :-\ :'(
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Ads on October 14, 2017, 12:18:30 PM
We took an away following last year to their place bigger than some of their home gates in the 4th division. And some of them are actually serious when they ponder if they're bigger.

Deluded. They're utterly deluded.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: wittonwarrior on October 14, 2017, 12:28:32 PM
To say they have shit support is rubbish, since the last 34 seasons they've only spent 4 seasons in the top flight and over the last few seasons have still averaged around 20k. During that time even dropped into the 4th tier of English tier. Gotta be one of the most loyal fans in the country.

Regarding size would put them alongside Blues as the 2nd biggest clubs in our area.

Villa Lew they have always had home support when they were in the 1st Division in the 70's their attendances  were on a par with Coventry's
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: frank on October 14, 2017, 12:35:10 PM
Just setting off from deepest Sussex and feeling unusually confident. Could this be the day we overtake Bristol City?
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: LeeB on October 14, 2017, 12:44:13 PM
To say they have shit support is rubbish, since the last 34 seasons they've only spent 4 seasons in the top flight and over the last few seasons have still averaged around 20k. During that time even dropped into the 4th tier of English tier. Gotta be one of the most loyal fans in the country.

Regarding size would put them alongside Blues as the 2nd biggest clubs in our area.

Villa Lew they have always had home support when they were in the 1st Division in the 70's their attendances  were on a par with Coventry's

Yeah, but their crowds only looked low because the ground was in two separate posts codes back then. Or something.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Bungle on October 14, 2017, 01:10:42 PM
To say they have shit support is rubbish, since the last 34 seasons they've only spent 4 seasons in the top flight and over the last few seasons have still averaged around 20k. During that time even dropped into the 4th tier of English tier. Gotta be one of the most loyal fans in the country.

Regarding size would put them alongside Blues as the 2nd biggest clubs in our area.

Villa Lew they have always had home support when they were in the 1st Division in the 70's their attendances  were on a par with Coventry's

Yeah, but their crowds only looked low because the ground was in two separate posts codes back then. Or something.
At sometime around then a new stand was built behind the existing one, and when it was complete the old was demolished leaving a gap between that and the pitch.  The capacity was probably not impeded, but I doubt it did much for the atmosphere.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: LeeB on October 14, 2017, 01:28:36 PM
To say they have shit support is rubbish, since the last 34 seasons they've only spent 4 seasons in the top flight and over the last few seasons have still averaged around 20k. During that time even dropped into the 4th tier of English tier. Gotta be one of the most loyal fans in the country.

Regarding size would put them alongside Blues as the 2nd biggest clubs in our area.

Villa Lew they have always had home support when they were in the 1st Division in the 70's their attendances  were on a par with Coventry's

Yeah, but their crowds only looked low because the ground was in two separate posts codes back then. Or something.
At sometime around then a new stand was built behind the existing one, and when it was complete the old was demolished leaving a gap between that and the pitch.  The capacity was probably not impeded, but I doubt it did much for the atmosphere.

They had two stands condemned for ages. The fucking tramps.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: pbavfckuwait on October 14, 2017, 01:54:13 PM
A game where the Villa can show the rest of the division some intent, win today and those above us will start to look over their shoulders. Come on the Villa.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on October 14, 2017, 01:58:36 PM
Regarding size would put them alongside Blues as the 2nd biggest clubs in our area.

They're much bigger than Blues, as are Albion. Which isn't really saying much.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: ozzjim on October 14, 2017, 02:41:38 PM
A game I would love us to win. Not because of them being local, but because I think they are cheating big time on the FFP rules and the agent thing with 3rd party ownership - something is seriously amiss there and will wash out eventually. Dodgy.

However, as they have 3-4 players that would probably fetch 15-25 million I fully expect us to get a pasting. Pace hurts us and they have it.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: LeeB on October 14, 2017, 02:44:00 PM
Regarding size would put them alongside Blues as the 2nd biggest clubs in our area.

They're much bigger than Blues, as are Albion. Which isn't really saying much.


I believe Warwick Davis is much bigger than Vern Troyer.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on October 14, 2017, 02:51:58 PM
Been in pub ten minutes and won seventy quid on the horses. It's our lucky day!
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: LeeB on October 14, 2017, 02:52:46 PM
Guinness please.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on October 14, 2017, 02:55:02 PM
On its way, bab.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: wittonwarrior on October 14, 2017, 03:24:33 PM
Bargain basement all trains north of Crewe are delayed and have jumped on an earlier scheduled one utv and well done British rail
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: QuintonVilla on October 14, 2017, 04:28:41 PM
Wooah Terry is on Tinder
Wooah he's messaging your sister
Wooah he always gets his end away!
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: DB on October 14, 2017, 04:35:21 PM
Hutton in then
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on October 14, 2017, 04:37:09 PM
Wooah Terry is on Tinder
Wooah he's messaging your sister
Wooah he always gets his end away!
Welcome back Stiney :)
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: thick_mike on October 14, 2017, 04:42:58 PM
Been in pub ten minutes and won seventy quid on the horses. It's our lucky day!

Nothing can possibly go wrong now.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: in exile on October 14, 2017, 04:47:44 PM
May as well sell DeLaet in January
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on October 14, 2017, 04:50:40 PM
Ffs Hutton at LB.
Bruce is one of those managers that confuse being around a long time with experience. Hutton is shit in his own position he is even worse anywhere else.

They clearly will  target him
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Tom_Mc9? on October 14, 2017, 04:54:25 PM
I don't think anyone will be surprised by Hutton's inclusion. The only thing I can say in defence of the selection is Bruce said at the start of the season that RDL will need to be brought back slowly into the fold. A bit more slowly than I'd like.

I blame Taylor for this though, not Bruce/Hutton. His tackle was reckless, unnecessary and stupid.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on October 14, 2017, 04:58:10 PM
No match thread?
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Pete3206 on October 14, 2017, 05:00:19 PM
If not Hutton, who? Don't think there is anyone else.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Tom_Mc9? on October 14, 2017, 05:02:21 PM
De Laet
Borg
Bjarnason (only joking)
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Legion on October 14, 2017, 05:03:39 PM
No match thread?

PWS should be starting it if we want to win.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: Risso on October 14, 2017, 05:04:34 PM
The only positive about Hutton at left back is that at least it isn’t Bjarnason.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: frank black on October 14, 2017, 05:05:37 PM
If not Hutton, who? Don't think there is anyone else.

He’s had a go there before and it was horrifying. Should be fun
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: FanNOTCustomer on October 14, 2017, 05:06:12 PM
Beat down incoming. You have been warned.  :-X
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: malckennedy on October 14, 2017, 05:08:54 PM
Would be very happy with a draw today. We'd be 6th and only 4 behind 1st, 2nd and 3rd.
Title: Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Pre-Match thread
Post by: four fornicholl on October 14, 2017, 05:14:13 PM
Would be very happy with a draw today. We'd be 6th and only 4 behind 1st, 2nd and 3rd.
4th
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