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Title: Two years ago today (13th Sep 2015)
Post by: UK Redsox on September 13, 2017, 02:38:29 PM
Whilst, for me, Moscow away was the start of the decline, Leicester away two years ago was the day Villa's collapse looked certain

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/34166753
Title: Re: Two years ago today (13th Sep 2015)
Post by: Dave P on September 13, 2017, 02:43:24 PM
You can pinpoint the exact moment in this game when, we not only lost the game but the season and Sherwood his job.  From the text updates (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/football/33838830) on 65 mins.

"Posted at 65 mins
SUBSTITUTIONS
Leicester 0-2 Aston Villa
It had been all Leicester since the break but that worked like a dream for Villa.

Both sides make changes. On come N'Golo Kante and Leo Ulloa for Leicester, while Villa send on Jordan Ayew for goalscorer Carles Gil."

2-0 up away from home and he took off Gil who was having a great game and 2 mins after he scored, and brought on a striker?!  Rest is indeed history...for both teams!
Title: Re: Two years ago today (13th Sep 2015)
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 13, 2017, 03:02:30 PM
I sometimes wonder what would have happened to both sides that season if we'd held onto the lead. We'd have been W2 D1 L2 after 5 games, instead it took us until mid December and 17 games to reach 7 points.
Title: Re: Two years ago today (13th Sep 2015)
Post by: Legion on September 13, 2017, 03:43:15 PM
This was our Sliding Doors moment.
Title: Re: Two years ago today (13th Sep 2015)
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on September 13, 2017, 03:53:33 PM
Imagine my pain that day, as if the game alone wasn't bad enough. It was on my 40th birthday so we were hosting a family BBQ and watching the game with family members of which only me and my dad are Villa fans. We were outnumbered by Noses plus one Bitter, having to endure that match. My mood quickly changed for the worse. To be fair no one really took the piss, good job really.

In recent times we'd had some great results on my birthday; 1-0 at The Sty in 2009 and 1-0 at Anfield in 2014 I think. Gabby with the winnner both times. How times change.
Title: Re: Two years ago today (13th Sep 2015)
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 13, 2017, 04:09:11 PM
3 random things I remember from the day, some bint right next to the Villa fans, to the left, giving it the massive biggun early on, vanishing when we took the lead, and reappearing at 2-2 to give it the biggun again. How much the away end sways under your feet, it's like being on a trampoline. And finally as we were walking away from the ground after the game, someone running towards the ground who shouted "come on Villa" as he legged it past, no idea if it was a Leicester fan 'wanting it' or a weird Villa fan.
Title: Re: Two years ago today (13th Sep 2015)
Post by: Legion on September 13, 2017, 06:30:54 PM
I remember the impending inevitability of proceedings. You just KNEW it was going to happen.
Title: Re: Two years ago today (13th Sep 2015)
Post by: eric woolban woolban on September 13, 2017, 06:42:44 PM
Fortunes don't change on one particular  moment but this most definitely did so.

We'd still be in the Premier League if we had of won. I sincerely believe that.
Title: Re: Two years ago today (13th Sep 2015)
Post by: The Left Side on September 13, 2017, 06:44:47 PM
Definitely a turning point for us.
Title: Re: Two years ago today (13th Sep 2015)
Post by: garyshawsknee on September 13, 2017, 06:56:35 PM
I'm not sure if it was the moment when it all became inevitable, but it was the day that proved Sherwood was a chancer and out of his depth.
Title: Re: Two years ago today (13th Sep 2015)
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 13, 2017, 06:58:55 PM
I'm amazed we blew it that day, it's obvious what he wanted the players doing.

(http://giant.gfycat.com/MarvelousNewJabiru.gif)
Title: Re: Two years ago today (13th Sep 2015)
Post by: West Derby Villan on September 13, 2017, 08:18:11 PM
Fortunes don't change on one particular  moment but this most definitely did so.

We'd still be in the Premier League if we had of won. I sincerely believe that.

Yeah 100% with you
Title: Re: Two years ago today (13th Sep 2015)
Post by: Damo70 on September 13, 2017, 11:28:31 PM
I'm amazed we blew it that day, it's obvious what he wanted the players doing.

(http://giant.gfycat.com/MarvelousNewJabiru.gif)



He looks like he is giving it the full Mike Reid. "Runaround now"!
Title: Re: Two years ago today (13th Sep 2015)
Post by: cdward on September 13, 2017, 11:53:34 PM
It was a pivotal moment in both teams season. It was the day we started believing we would lose every game, and they started believing they would win every game, and that continued to the end of the season.

It was also this
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rzd-hhWfhYo
Title: Re: Two years ago today (13th Sep 2015)
Post by: devilla on September 14, 2017, 12:25:36 AM
I remember it well. We went to an autograph convention at a hotel at Heathrow. Watched the game in the bar which was very posh and quiet. Each time we scored I had to have a silent celebration and each time we conceded I had to seethe very quietly. I think I nearly exploded with barely contained anger. I couldn't even have a drink as I was driving.

Still I had a nice chat with John Challis who played Boycie in Only fools and horses and met Bruce McCandless the astronaut. Random as the kids would say.
Title: Re: Two years ago today (13th Sep 2015)
Post by: Deano's Mullet on September 14, 2017, 06:56:09 AM
I honestly think we'd still have gone down regardless of if we'd won that game. Let's face it the team was shocking. As for the game itself though yes it was all too predictable once they scored their first.
Title: Re: Two years ago today (13th Sep 2015)
Post by: Dave P on September 14, 2017, 07:17:39 AM
I'm amazed we blew it that day, it's obvious what he wanted the players doing.

(http://giant.gfycat.com/MarvelousNewJabiru.gif)

Wow, this is the same time as the substitution I highlighted earlier. Doesn't look in control does he??
Title: Re: Two years ago today (13th Sep 2015)
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on September 14, 2017, 08:30:29 AM
I'm amazed we blew it that day, it's obvious what he wanted the players doing.

(http://giant.gfycat.com/MarvelousNewJabiru.gif)

A Tic-Tac man rehearsing for a part in a Monty Python semaphore sketch.
Title: Re: Two years ago today (13th Sep 2015)
Post by: Damo70 on September 14, 2017, 09:57:57 AM
After all our summer transfer dealings I was actually excited about how the season would go. I was looking forward to mid table at least after a few years of struggle. Looking back now those optimistic days of mine seem as long ago as when I believed in Father Christmas.
Title: Re: Two years ago today (13th Sep 2015)
Post by: Deano's Mullet on September 15, 2017, 02:38:49 PM
After all our summer transfer dealings I was actually excited about how the season would go. I was looking forward to mid table at least after a few years of struggle. Looking back now those optimistic days of mine seem as long ago as when I believed in Father Christmas.

Me too. With Sherwood in charge I thought we'd lose a few but win a few as well with plenty of goals. We were right but unfortunately they were all at one end every game. The kit was nice at least.
Title: Re: Two years ago today (13th Sep 2015)
Post by: Damo70 on September 15, 2017, 06:38:21 PM
After all our summer transfer dealings I was actually excited about how the season would go. I was looking forward to mid table at least after a few years of struggle. Looking back now those optimistic days of mine seem as long ago as when I believed in Father Christmas.

Me too. With Sherwood in charge I thought we'd lose a few but win a few as well with plenty of goals. We were right but unfortunately they were all at one end every game. The kit was nice at least.


The kit was nice because it never got dirty.
Title: Re: Two years ago today (13th Sep 2015)
Post by: SoccerHQ on September 15, 2017, 10:28:03 PM

I'm not sure if it was the moment when it all became inevitable, but it was the day that proved Sherwood was a chancer and out of his depth.

Sherwood gets plenty of flak on here (plenty of it justified) but that game we played really well for an hour (outplaying that seasons champions) and the goal Gil scored was fantastic.

Some of the spells in games we had under Sherwood we looked a very decent side going forward (Palace away just before we had another decent half but couldn't score and then defensive errors killed us).

Of course it all fell apart from that day and our league form collapsed.

Edit: Just realised Kante didn't start for them that day and he came on at 0-2. Probably as crucial for Leicester not just winning the game but getting him integrated into the team.
Title: Re: Two years ago today (13th Sep 2015)
Post by: SoccerHQ on September 15, 2017, 10:32:21 PM
I'm amazed we blew it that day, it's obvious what he wanted the players doing.

(http://giant.gfycat.com/MarvelousNewJabiru.gif)

Wow, this is the same time as the substitution I highlighted earlier. Doesn't look in control does he??

I always thought he was trying to make the point to the players about turning over play quicker as the Leicester goals were flying in (he mentioned that in his emotional interview afterwards) but given the score it actually seems to me he was gesturing at the ref he wanted the subs on in very exaggerated fashion.
Title: Re: Two years ago today (13th Sep 2015)
Post by: Canadian Villa on September 19, 2017, 06:21:17 PM
I'm amazed we blew it that day, it's obvious what he wanted the players doing.

(http://giant.gfycat.com/MarvelousNewJabiru.gif)

Wow, this is the same time as the substitution I highlighted earlier. Doesn't look in control does he??

I always thought he was trying to make the point to the players about turning over play quicker as the Leicester goals were flying in (he mentioned that in his emotional interview afterwards) but given the score it actually seems to me he was gesturing at the ref he wanted the subs on in very exaggerated fashion.

He's doing a gesture that you would tell 11 years old's to run around a bit and create space.
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