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Title: International Football
Post by: Legion on September 01, 2017, 08:04:21 PM
Malta v England.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on September 02, 2017, 06:17:55 AM
Scotland let me down for a ninefold acca on all of the nights games. I also went for correct scores.
I went Montenegro to win 3-0, they won 2-0.
I went right with Germany to win 2-1.
I went Denmark 2-1, it was 4-0.
I got Malta v England spot on at 0-4.
I went Norway 2-1, it was 2-0.
I went Romania 3-0, it was 1-0.
I went Northern Ireland 4-0, it was 3-0.
I went Slovakia 2-0, it was 1-0.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on September 02, 2017, 12:57:01 PM
Just noticed this thread and have been posting in "Other Games".

Anyway, looks like Cameroon and Holland won't qualify and not impossible that America and Australia could fuck it up. It would be a nice story if Syria made it through.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: SteveN on September 02, 2017, 08:48:11 PM
I trust Southgate has told Henderson and Livemore to watch Busquets tonight to see how the midfielder in front of the defence should play.  He might be a diving cheat at times but he is very very good in the role.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: darren woolley on September 04, 2017, 09:10:47 AM
I hope England play better tonight against Slovakia we really didn't play that well against Malta even though we won the game.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on September 04, 2017, 10:04:31 AM
It is often hard to break down teams like that until they tire from all the running without the ball or their heads drop after conceding. 4-0 in Malta looks good compared to Albania 2 Liechtenstein 0 or France 0 Luxembourg 0.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Clampy on September 04, 2017, 12:54:30 PM
It is often hard to break down teams like that until they tire from all the running without the ball or their heads drop after conceding. 4-0 in Malta looks good compared to Albania 2 Liechtenstein 0 or France 0 Luxembourg 0.

I agree. The days are gone where small countries get hammered 8-0 on a regular basis. I don't think Malta got enough credit to be honest.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Bren'd on September 04, 2017, 02:37:32 PM
The French result is an odd one. I seen bits of their game v the Dutch Thursday and thought they'd got their act together and were going to be a major force once again. Not the case it would seem.

England should easily win tonight if they remove Sterling from the squad and start Rashford. That's all that is required.

Sterling is one very overrated player.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: devilla on September 04, 2017, 07:45:58 PM
Oh great Hoddle commentating tonight.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: devilla on September 04, 2017, 07:48:47 PM
Hoddle - that's the worst possible start. Really??
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: dave shelley on September 04, 2017, 07:49:19 PM
Southgate out!
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Dave on September 04, 2017, 07:57:48 PM
England should easily win tonight if they remove Sterling from the squad and start Rashford. That's all that is required.

Bren'd out!
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Post by: devilla on September 04, 2017, 08:22:42 PM
At last. Good goal.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 04, 2017, 08:40:43 PM
Hoddle is fucking infuriating, 'us' and 'them'.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: SteveN on September 04, 2017, 09:03:48 PM
England should easily win tonight if they remove Sterling from the squad and start Rashford. That's all that is required.

Bren'd out!

Bren'd back in.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: VILLA MOLE on September 04, 2017, 09:07:22 PM
We still don't pass well
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: darren woolley on September 05, 2017, 09:36:25 AM
We still don't pass well

It's a case of none shall pass.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Bren'd on September 05, 2017, 11:07:43 AM
England should easily win tonight if they remove Sterling from the squad and start Rashford. That's all that is required.

Bren'd out!

Bren'd back in.

This International football malarkey is quite easy really.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on September 05, 2017, 01:23:24 PM
Hoddle is fucking infuriating, 'us' and 'them'.

He must be a Pink Floyd fan.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Comrade Blitz on September 05, 2017, 08:03:11 PM
Come on you boys in green

and Moldova
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Bren'd on September 06, 2017, 09:56:16 AM
The final game in the group between Wales and Ireland will be some game, sadly, I think Wales will be too strong for them.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: KRS on September 06, 2017, 03:45:42 PM
It could go either way...ROI aren't playing well and are pretty toothless up front, and Wales struggle for quality so the likes of Bale and Ramsey tend to try the spectacular. It won't be a pretty game, but Ben Woodburn could make the difference between the two sides and provide that but of quality as he has done so the last 2 games for Wales.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on September 06, 2017, 03:47:16 PM
The final game in the group between Wales and Ireland will be some game, sadly, I think Wales will be too strong for them.

I would have Wales as the favourites but I would tend to back whichever is at home.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on September 28, 2017, 02:13:32 PM
WTF Delph back in the England squad after  20 minutes of football and a goal this season.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Jon Crofts on September 29, 2017, 06:43:51 AM
WTF Delph back in the England squad after  20 minutes of football and a goal this season.

And Southgate saying heís worried about the strength of the squad. Well you picked it mate.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Comrade Blitz on September 29, 2017, 12:10:29 PM
WTF Delph back in the England squad after  20 minutes of football and a goal this season.

Man City must've complained that their name wasn't being mentioned enough during the England matches 
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on September 29, 2017, 01:19:24 PM
WTF Delph back in the England squad after  20 minutes of football and a goal this season.


Maybe Southgate is presuming that means he guarantees you a goal every twenty minutes you play him for.

Having ducked plenty of his shots into the lower North I would tend to disagree.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Pete3206 on September 29, 2017, 07:55:59 PM
Simply an indication of how bereft of talent England are.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Comrade Blitz on October 03, 2017, 12:36:26 PM
Man-bun-twat will miss the final two WCQ matches for Wales
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: The Left Side on October 03, 2017, 03:45:47 PM
Delph withdraws through injury... shame.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Comrade Blitz on October 05, 2017, 12:47:38 PM
According to the FIFA website, in the WCQ playoff round for Europe only the top 4 are seeded. Any ideas why they don't just do it  1v8, 2v7, 3v6 etc?

(http://thumb.ibb.co/dhXYJw/SNAG_Program_0032.jpg) (http://ibb.co/dhXYJw)
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: cheltenhamlion on October 05, 2017, 05:26:03 PM
In case one of the countries that chips in a lot of broadcasting cash has a poor qualification. This way they can try to fiddle it so they play the shittest possible team.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: b23 on October 05, 2017, 09:47:57 PM
Syria 1 v 1 Australia

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41516822
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Comrade Blitz on October 06, 2017, 03:30:33 PM
Argentina in danger of failing to qualify for Russia '18


(http://thumb.ibb.co/ihPkiw/download.jpg) (http://ibb.co/ihPkiw)

Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: darren woolley on October 06, 2017, 03:56:07 PM
Argentina need to book there ideas up or miss out all together.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Richard E on October 06, 2017, 04:10:42 PM
Argentina need to book there ideas up or miss out all together.

Can you imagine the humiliation of not being good enough to qualify for a tournament even England can reach?
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on October 08, 2017, 07:02:54 PM
Ryan Giggs reckons that when it comes to England there is something missing.

For years there was something missing for Wales. Usually an 'unavailable' Ryan Giggs.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Comrade Blitz on October 09, 2017, 01:55:30 AM
Scotland finishing 3rd in a group that included England - the fucking Tories will be putting that on the anti-independence campaign posters
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Comrade Blitz on October 09, 2017, 01:58:44 AM
50% of the countries in the South American zone could qualify for the 2018 World Cup - what a fucking joke. Fucking Brazil & Messi wankfest
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Comrade Blitz on October 09, 2017, 02:28:46 AM
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Comrade Blitz on October 09, 2017, 03:06:20 AM
Mods - can we merge this thread and Other Games? Please?
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on October 09, 2017, 12:23:25 PM
Argentina need to book there ideas up or miss out all together.

I love the way you posted that in a heavy Brummie accent. ;)
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Comrade Blitz on October 17, 2017, 01:13:50 PM
Norn Iron v Switzerland
Croatia v Greece
Denmark v Ireland
Sweden v Italy
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Bren'd on October 18, 2017, 10:37:01 AM
I think the ROI will be happier than NI with that. Could have been much tougher for them mind.  Both do have a good chance.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: KRS on October 18, 2017, 01:37:46 PM
On paper its very close between NI, ROI and Denmark as they each finished with 19/20pts, and Switzerland on paper should beat NI having taken 27pts...however there were 3 very poor teams in their group compared to just the 2 next to useless teams in NI and ROI groups. I'd fancy both Switzerland and Denmark to go through over 2 legs, but Denmark may struggle to score like Wales did if ROI are defending a lead (however I would imagine Denmark would play with more attacking skill than the rugby-esque tactics Wales attempted).
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Scratchins on October 25, 2017, 12:11:55 PM
Under 17 World Cup semi final, England v Brazil being shown live today on BBC Red Button from 12:20 BST, plus live text commentary on the BBC Sport website.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: PGW on October 25, 2017, 12:28:44 PM
Under 17 World Cup semi final, England v Brazil being shown live today on BBC Red Button from 12:20 BST, plus live text commentary on the BBC Sport website.
On Eurosport as well
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Comrade Blitz on November 09, 2017, 12:21:32 PM
Is this the thread for the WC Playoffs or is it the other thread?
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 09, 2017, 06:08:37 PM
Either way come on Norn Iron!
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on November 09, 2017, 07:04:11 PM
Come on Croatia. You may be horrible racists, but at least save me from having to watch Greece stink out yet another tournament.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on November 09, 2017, 09:17:45 PM
Shocking penalty decision against Norn Iron
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Bren'd on November 09, 2017, 09:41:36 PM
It was. NI arenít up to much though. Out played for most of the game.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on November 09, 2017, 09:46:10 PM
Agreed says everything when Jamie Ward comes on for 20 minutes and is their best player.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: UK Redsox on November 10, 2017, 09:23:34 AM
It was. NI arenít up to much though. Out played for most of the game.

Agreed, Switzerland looked the far better team but that penalty decision was a travishamockery. The bloke was turning away and the ball hit him on the shoulder
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Richard E on November 10, 2017, 09:42:54 AM
Switzerland are like England. Always seem to get to the World Cup Finals and then make no discernible impression whatsoever once there.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Nev on November 10, 2017, 09:55:44 AM
It was. NI arenít up to much though. Out played for most of the game.

Agreed, Switzerland looked the far better team but that penalty decision was a travishamockery. The bloke was turning away and the ball hit him on the shoulder

It happened to Mark Delaney away at Sunderland on Monday night and the ref that night?

David "fuckin'" Elleray.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on November 10, 2017, 10:24:42 AM
Switzerland are like England. Always seem to get to the World Cup Finals and then make no discernible impression whatsoever once there.

The difference is that Switzerland have a fraction of England's resources, so even qualifying is a decent achievement.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Bren'd on November 10, 2017, 11:07:37 AM
It was. NI arenít up to much though. Out played for most of the game.

Agreed, Switzerland looked the far better team but that penalty decision was a travishamockery. The bloke was turning away and the ball hit him on the shoulder

It happened to Mark Delaney away at Sunderland on Monday night and the ref that night?

David "fuckin'" Elleray.

That rankles with me too. I don't even remember how we got on in that game just the shear injustice of that decision. I hated Ellary for that ever since and a bit more after the Enkleman incident.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: nodge on November 10, 2017, 11:35:06 AM
And when he was the only ref ever to give a free kick for the 6 second rule against David James*



* I think it was him but even if it wasn't it was still his fault, the twat!
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: dave shelley on November 10, 2017, 01:11:18 PM
I'm  usually pretty defensive of referee's on here when contentious matters arise, but that decision against N.I.  last night was amongst the worst I have ever seen.  Handball has to be seen to be intentional and deliberate and if that joker last night cannot tell the difference then he has no right to officiate at a football match ever again at any level.  He should be removed from all lists with immediate effect.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Clampy on November 10, 2017, 01:26:57 PM
I'm  usually pretty defensive of referee's on here when contentious matters arise, but that decision against N.I.  last night was amongst the worst I have ever seen.  Handball has to be seen to be intentional and deliberate and if that joker last night cannot tell the difference then he has no right to officiate at a football match ever again at any level.  He should be removed from all lists with immediate effect.

I thought he was piss poor all game. Some of the fouls he was giving against Lafferty were laughable, or laffertyable.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: dcdavecollett on November 10, 2017, 07:20:08 PM
It WAS Elleray who gave the six-second free-kick against Jamo.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on November 12, 2017, 09:41:13 AM
I'm  usually pretty defensive of referee's on here when contentious matters arise, but that decision against N.I.  last night was amongst the worst I have ever seen.  Handball has to be seen to be intentional and deliberate and if that joker last night cannot tell the difference then he has no right to officiate at a football match ever again at any level.  He should be removed from all lists with immediate effect.


Not just the handball, which was an awful decision but the Swiss guy should have been sent off early in the game. He wiped out the Irish player. The ref bottled it because it was very 'early doors'. I am convinced that if that had happened an hour into the game he would have been shown a red card.

Although with that excuse for an international referee, possibly not.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: dave shelley on November 12, 2017, 10:13:11 AM
Since posting that, I've been thinking about what I said.  I have actually seen one that was worse and it was given against the Villa.  I think it was back in the late sixties early seventies at Villa Park but sadly I can't remember the opposition. I do remember the incident though, it happened down the Witton End, Fred Turnbull ended up sprawled on his back after a challenge with both his arms in a cruciform position, the ball squirmed loose and rolled over Turnbull's hand and the next thing we knew the dumb click of a referee was awarding a penalty.  Cue stunned silence then mayhem.  Any old 'uns throw any light on this?
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: dcdavecollett on November 12, 2017, 09:01:56 PM
Sounds like the Notts County game to me, which was on MOTD.

It was a deliberate handball by Fred, in my opinion, that prevented a goal.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: dcdavecollett on November 14, 2017, 08:21:47 PM
Oh, and Tommy Hughes saved the penalty!
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: dave shelley on November 14, 2017, 08:47:25 PM
Oh, and Tommy Hughes saved the penalty!

Not the game I'm thinking of then as I remember the penalty being scored and we lost.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: devilla on November 14, 2017, 08:53:36 PM
Anybody watching the England game? What a load of garbage.

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Post by: four fornicholl on November 14, 2017, 09:07:13 PM
Anybody watching the England game? What a load of garbage.
Rick Stein for me.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on November 15, 2017, 09:20:29 AM
I think MON will quit. I like him a hell of a lot more than most on here but he doesn't tend to stick around to turn things around when they start going wrong. I think he will retire.

Chris Coleman is signing a new contract with Wales apparently. Which mean firstly they have offered him more money and secondly his thinly veiled attempts to invite other offers by publicly 'considering his opinion' for months haven't resulted in a tempting offer from elsewhere.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on November 15, 2017, 07:54:07 PM
Since posting that, I've been thinking about what I said.  I have actually seen one that was worse and it was given against the Villa.  I think it was back in the late sixties early seventies at Villa Park but sadly I can't remember the opposition. I do remember the incident though, it happened down the Witton End, Fred Turnbull ended up sprawled on his back after a challenge with both his arms in a cruciform position, the ball squirmed loose and rolled over Turnbull's hand and the next thing we knew the dumb click of a referee was awarding a penalty.  Cue stunned silence then mayhem.  Any old 'uns throw any light on this?

No but a "appalling refereeing decisions against Aston Villa" thread sounds awfully tempting to start... remember when Helenius had his shorts literally pulled down in the box by some Spurs twat in front of the ref and he gave no penalty? Outrageous.

Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: dcdavecollett on November 17, 2017, 06:04:33 PM
It was Vertongen who was the guilty party.

Happily for all concerned, the ref played advantage to a player with his shorts round his ankles! I wonder why he didn't score...
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: manic-road on December 01, 2017, 04:00:21 PM
Decent draw for England in the world cup.

Belgium
Tunisia
Panama
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on January 12, 2018, 04:08:30 PM
Giggs wants the Wales gig. I would love to be on that selection committee. "Are you going to actually grace us with your presence for friendlies too you arrogant twat"?
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 13, 2018, 04:43:50 PM
Giggs wants the Wales gig. I would love to be on that selection committee. "Are you going to actually grace us with your presence for friendlies too you arrogant twat"?

He played 64 times for his country in 16 years. Bale has played in 68 games in 11. Wales have been better recently of course and there might be more games, but does suggest Giggs missed a few. And it's likely not injury related given he played almost 700 times for Man U and found time to do his brother's wife for 8 years.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: b23 on January 15, 2018, 12:41:53 AM
Giggs wants the Wales gig. I would love to be on that selection committee. "Are you going to actually grace us with your presence for friendlies too you arrogant twat"?

Ryan Giggs: Manchester United legend set to be named Wales manager

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42684241

There's loveley, Dia Bach
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: postal on January 15, 2018, 09:33:27 AM
Giggs wants the Wales gig. I would love to be on that selection committee. "Are you going to actually grace us with your presence for friendlies too you arrogant twat"?

He'll send a cardboard cutout instead
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on January 17, 2018, 09:07:20 AM
Giggs wants the Wales gig. I would love to be on that selection committee. "Are you going to actually grace us with your presence for friendlies too you arrogant twat"?

He'll send a cardboard cutout instead

Has he kept the one that used to be on the bench next to Van Gaal for a year at United?
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: TopDeck113 on January 23, 2018, 11:12:07 PM
Phil Neville shows in his first interview after being appointed England manager how unsuited he is to a role in the women's game by referring to the international players as girls.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on January 23, 2018, 11:29:12 PM
I'm Head Snowflake for the Yardley Branch of the Guardianista, but I don't really mind that. Footballers will often say stuff like "the boys done good" so I don't see much of a difference.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Dave Cooper please on January 24, 2018, 11:05:11 AM
I think it's up to the players whether they are offended by it but it seems harmless to me.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on January 24, 2018, 03:02:59 PM
Phil Neville shows in his first interview after being appointed England manager how unsuited he is to a role in the women's game by referring to the international players as girls.

'Ladies' would have been better, but so long as he avoids 'birds', 'chicks' or 'wenches' he should be okay.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: TopDeck113 on January 24, 2018, 07:52:05 PM
Or saying that they should be "busy making breakfast/getting kids ready".
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 25, 2018, 07:52:19 PM
I think it's up to the players whether they are offended by it but it seems harmless to me.

He's already got a bit of reputation from some past tweets about women and the women's game. While we men might think it's harmless he needs to change some of his views and perspectives sharpish if he's going to succeed.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on January 25, 2018, 09:17:01 PM
Phil Neville shows in his first interview after being appointed England manager how unsuited he is to a role in the women's game by referring to the international players as girls.

'Ladies' would have been better, but so long as he avoids 'birds', 'chicks' or 'wenches' he should be okay.

Ladies? Like feminism never happened. It's 'wimin' you sexist pig!
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on February 12, 2018, 03:39:25 PM
In his new book Kieron Dyer has 'sensationally revealed' that on England duty players "gambled, often large amounts". Something he obviously thinks was previously totally unknown by the nations press and fans. I believe in another chapter he reveals where bears go to do a shit.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: dave shelley on February 15, 2018, 06:54:50 PM
TSM1 appointed Scotland manager.  Sorry CD and AD.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on February 15, 2018, 07:59:44 PM
Scotland are dead to me. The only feasible reason for this appointment is that he's cheap.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: paulcomben on February 15, 2018, 08:35:35 PM
Oh dear. Dinnae greet, jocks.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on February 15, 2018, 11:25:39 PM
So TSM is genuinely the TSM. It should suit him. At least at international level you can't win a trophy and then get relegated a couple of months later.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on February 16, 2018, 12:48:42 AM
Obviously he won't be winning any trophies, but you actually can get relegated now...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Nations_League
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 16, 2018, 03:11:56 AM
I wonder what odds he'll relegate Scotland and then England will appoint him?
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: JD on February 16, 2018, 07:40:58 AM
Scotland are dead to me. The only feasible reason for this appointment is that he's cheap.

and then they reached the bottom of the barrel.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on February 16, 2018, 03:15:26 PM
You look at the managers they have had since Stein and the successful Scottish managers that have been out of work in those years like Dalglish, Souness and Graham and wonder if they have ever tried to tempt one of them.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Richard E on March 15, 2018, 04:35:49 PM
If this isn't the worst England squad in football history, it can't be far off:-

 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43344416
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Walmley_Villa on March 16, 2018, 10:17:46 AM
If this isn't the worst England squad in football history, it can't be far off:-

 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43344416

Abysmal - still if the final World Cup squad rather them than me. I do fear for England fans as the authorities are hardly going to do much to protect them in the current political climate!

Jake Livermore.........?
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: MoetVillan on March 16, 2018, 10:35:58 AM
I like the squad. No golden generation. Not too many egos.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on March 16, 2018, 10:47:25 AM
There can't be any harm in trying a few fringe players in friendlies.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: MoetVillan on March 16, 2018, 11:02:11 AM
There can't be any harm in trying a few fringe players in friendlies.

The tried and tested method has been pretty poor apart from 90 and 96 since...well 66.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Richard E on March 16, 2018, 05:00:34 PM
There can't be any harm in trying a few fringe players in friendlies.

There's trying a few fringe players in friendlies and there's bunging in any random with 2 functioning legs in friendlies...
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on March 18, 2018, 11:04:05 PM
Gareth Southgate has urged England fans to visit "incredible Russia" for the tournament like he will be doing with his wife and kids. Firstly Gareth you would have to lend me the money to do so and secondly can you guarantee myself and my family will have the same level of security and protection as yours will be getting?
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Woofles The Wonder Dog on March 20, 2018, 05:28:46 PM
Momentary jaw-drop on seeing the BBC App headline: ďPope targets England World Cup placeĒ
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on March 20, 2018, 05:36:05 PM
There can't be any harm in trying a few fringe players in friendlies.
Yes but I have trouble distinguishing fringers from middlers.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: cheltenhamlion on March 20, 2018, 05:54:08 PM
There can't be any harm in trying a few fringe players in friendlies.
Yes but I have trouble distinguishing fringers from middlers.

If you spot a Villa and England conjoined pin badge on your travels, can you nab one for Charlie? I will see you right for the money but he has been badge hassling again!
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: MoetVillan on March 22, 2018, 03:56:39 PM
There can't be any harm in trying a few fringe players in friendlies.
Yes but I have trouble distinguishing fringers from middlers.
In that case, the term you are looking for is Mingers
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on March 22, 2018, 05:48:47 PM
I was underwhelmed by Southgate's appointment but did see the logic of promoting a coach from the under 21's as other nations have done successfully over the years. I was also impressed that rather than trying to protect our unbeaten record in qualifying after qualification was secured he experimented with his selections (and we still remained unbeaten). I think the 3-5-2 he likes to play suits the players we have at our disposal. The goalkeeping situation is a worry. Hart, Butland and Pickforfd have all struggled wit their clubs this season and the in form Pope lacks experience. Personally, I am a big fan of Fraser Forster but Southampton have struggled, he has had injuries and is currently on their bench. I worry about us finding a defensive combination that has enough quality depth, experience, balance and current good form. I do think we have enough quality options of both defensive and attacking midfielders and that looks our strongest department. Although how Livermore is considered to be one of those options escapes me. Vardy, Rashford and Welbeck are all decent but not top international players. We will be relying on Kane massively for most of our goals. It will probably be the England we have seen more often than not in tournaments. Last eight at best.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: ChicagoLion on March 23, 2018, 05:19:08 PM
I have just been told I have a ticket to England v Belgium.
Kalanisgrad.
I think we have good full backs, decent attacking options.
I think our problem is centre halves and defensive midfield, should e enough to get out of the group, but thatís it.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Tayls_7 on March 23, 2018, 05:52:40 PM
I have just been told I have a ticket to England v Belgium.
Kalanisgrad.
I think we have good full backs, decent attacking options.
I think our problem is centre halves and defensive midfield, should e enough to get out of the group, but thatís it.

Enjoy. You'll have an oblast.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on March 24, 2018, 09:32:02 AM
Eleven years ago today the first competitive game was played at the new Wembley. England and Italy under 21's drew 3-3. The England side included current and future Villa players Gary Cahill, Nigel Reo-Coker, Kieron Richardson, Wayne Routledge and Gabby.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Lucky Eddie on March 24, 2018, 09:51:47 PM
Eleven years ago today the first competitive game was played at the new Wembley. England and Italy under 21's drew 3-3. The England side included current and future Villa players Gary Cahill, Nigel Reo-Coker, Kieron Richardson, Wayne Routledge and Gabby.

And my nine year old lad was mascot 😬

Memorable day
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: UK Redsox on March 25, 2018, 08:55:43 PM
Wins today for Gibraltar and the Edvard Islands
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Brazilian Villain on June 01, 2018, 10:05:01 PM
ROI showing support for the LGBT community in this weekend's game.

https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2018/0601/967688-fai-to-show-lgbt-support-with-ireland-kit/
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: PGW on June 01, 2018, 11:59:55 PM
Eleven years ago today the first competitive game was played at the new Wembley. England and Italy under 21's drew 3-3. The England side included current and future Villa players Gary Cahill, Nigel Reo-Coker, Kieron Richardson, Wayne Routledge and Gabby.

At that game with my 3 sons myself, probably the last time watched football sat together. Didn't remember the result if i'm honest.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Dave on June 02, 2018, 05:15:47 PM
Giampaolo Pazzini scored a really good hat trick if I remember it right
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Ad@m on June 07, 2018, 12:19:00 PM
Wasn't sure where to put this but Besiktas have been fined EUR 34,000 for a cat getting on to the pitch during a Champions League game.

In March the Russian Football Federation were fined £22,000 for racist chanting in their game against France.

Tells you everything you need to know about UEFA's priorities...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44394226
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithe on June 07, 2018, 03:27:08 PM
Perhaps it was a Tiger?
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 29, 2018, 11:39:02 PM
Maybe it was engaging in racist miaowing?
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on August 28, 2018, 05:36:00 PM
Gary Cahill and Jamie Vardy have retired from international football.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on August 30, 2018, 05:08:22 PM
Is anyone else as confused as me about this new UEFA Nations League? What is all this 'Group B4', 'Group A1?
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: manic-road on August 30, 2018, 05:35:06 PM
I thought that Southgate said that he will only pick players who are getting games, I see he has picked Loftus-Cheek. Maybe I'm mistaken.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on August 30, 2018, 06:00:18 PM
England squad to face Spain and Switzerland Sat 8th and Tue 11th September -

Butland, McCarthy, Pickford
Alexander-Arnold, Gomez, Maguire, Rose, Stones, Tarkowski, Tripper, Walker
Delph, Ali, Dier, Henderson, Lallana, Lingard, Loftus-Cheek, Sterling
Kane, Rashford, Wellbeck

Strangely we are playing the competitive game first and the friendly game second.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Meanwood Villa on August 30, 2018, 06:09:21 PM
Is anyone else as confused as me about this new UEFA Nations League? What is all this 'Group B4', 'Group A1?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018Ė19_UEFA_Nations_League

This provides quite a good explanation I think.

I think the nations' league itself is a good idea. I still don't really get the link to qualifying for the euros.

Edit- sorry that's not the right link. Sure you can find it on wiki though.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 31, 2018, 10:13:58 PM
Explanation that I texted to our kid a while back...

Nations League is divided into four Leagues, each of which has four divisions.

League A, the best, has four divisions of 3 as does League B. League C has three divisions of 4 and one division of three. League D, the worst, has four divisions of 4.

At the end of the tournament the four division winners in League A go into the Final Four to determine the overall league champions.

Each team that finishes bottom of a division in Leagues A, B and C gets relegated. Each team that finishes top of a division in Leagues B, C and D gets promoted.

So far, relatively straightforward. Where it gets complicated is in allowing qualification to the European Championships. They will still have a normal qualifying stage, ten Groups of 5 or 6 teams.

Seeding will be based on Nations League finishes.

Top seeds: division winners and runners-up plus best two third place from League A.

Second seeds: remaining two third place teams from League A and division winners and runners-up from League B.

Third seeds: third place teams in League B, division winners and two best runners-up from League C.

Fourth seeds: remaining runners-up and third place teams and fourth placed teams League C. Best group winner League D.

Fifth seeds: remaining group winners, runners-up and best three third placed teams League D

Sixth seeds: worst third place and all fourth place League D teams.


At the end of the qualifying then there are playoffs. They go to the best four teams from each Nations League not to have already qualified. They play in semis and a final with winners qualifying.

If there are not enough teams to get four qualifiers per League, because too many of the teams have qualified automatically, then they take the best teams not to have qualified OR made their own League's playoff section from the next League down (or even two Leagues down, if there aren't sufficient numbers).

Net result: it looks a lot easier for the big teams to qualify. Even if they fuck up the Nations League AND the actual qualifiers, they would still likely get a playoff place as it is unlikely that at least eight of the twelve League A teams wouldn't qualify automatically.

You also have the farcical situation that a team like the Faroes might qualify from League D.

So it's good for the big teams and the ultra-diddies. Teams that are worst-affected by the changes are the mid-ranking teams like Scotland. Oh bollocks.

Could also have the silly situation of teams losing on purpose when they have no hope of finishing top two in the qualifiers if it increases the chances of a team that finishes above them in The Nations League qualifying, as would boost their chances of being one of the four best remaining teams and getting a playoff place.

Basically I like the idea of the Nations League, it's certainly a lot better than friendlies. But the way it has been linked to qualifying is fucking stupid.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Villa in Denmark on September 03, 2018, 08:54:15 PM
Nations League: Denmark in player dispute turmoil ahead of Wales game (http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/45382474)
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on September 03, 2018, 11:13:48 PM
Jammy bastards.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on September 05, 2018, 11:23:51 AM
Nations League: Denmark in player dispute turmoil ahead of Wales game (http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/45382474)

I clicked the link and then ended up watching the clip of Adrian Chiles and Frank Skinner talking about drinking.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on September 05, 2018, 12:14:12 PM
Explanation that I texted to our kid a while back...

Nations League is divided into four Leagues, each of which has four divisions.

League A, the best, has four divisions of 3 as does League B. League C has three divisions of 4 and one division of three. League D, the worst, has four divisions of 4.

At the end of the tournament the four division winners in League A go into the Final Four to determine the overall league champions.

Each team that finishes bottom of a division in Leagues A, B and C gets relegated. Each team that finishes top of a division in Leagues B, C and D gets promoted.

So far, relatively straightforward. Where it gets complicated is in allowing qualification to the European Championships. They will still have a normal qualifying stage, ten Groups of 5 or 6 teams.

Seeding will be based on Nations League finishes.

Top seeds: division winners and runners-up plus best two third place from League A.

Second seeds: remaining two third place teams from League A and division winners and runners-up from League B.

Third seeds: third place teams in League B, division winners and two best runners-up from League C.

Fourth seeds: remaining runners-up and third place teams and fourth placed teams League C. Best group winner League D.

Fifth seeds: remaining group winners, runners-up and best three third placed teams League D

Sixth seeds: worst third place and all fourth place League D teams.


At the end of the qualifying then there are playoffs. They go to the best four teams from each Nations League not to have already qualified. They play in semis and a final with winners qualifying.

If there are not enough teams to get four qualifiers per League, because too many of the teams have qualified automatically, then they take the best teams not to have qualified OR made their own League's playoff section from the next League down (or even two Leagues down, if there aren't sufficient numbers).

Net result: it looks a lot easier for the big teams to qualify. Even if they fuck up the Nations League AND the actual qualifiers, they would still likely get a playoff place as it is unlikely that at least eight of the twelve League A teams wouldn't qualify automatically.

You also have the farcical situation that a team like the Faroes might qualify from League D.

So it's good for the big teams and the ultra-diddies. Teams that are worst-affected by the changes are the mid-ranking teams like Scotland. Oh bollocks.

Could also have the silly situation of teams losing on purpose when they have no hope of finishing top two in the qualifiers if it increases the chances of a team that finishes above them in The Nations League qualifying, as would boost their chances of being one of the four best remaining teams and getting a playoff place.

Basically I like the idea of the Nations League, it's certainly a lot better than friendlies. But the way it has been linked to qualifying is fucking stupid.

Thatís Numberwang!
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on September 05, 2018, 12:42:23 PM
Managed to get 5/2 on Slovakia to beat Denmark by more than two tonight. You can't get evens for them to win by more than four now.

I'm pretty confident of this coming in with the Danes sending a combination of their futsal team and a bunch of Third/Fourth Division dross.

Only thing that will worry me is if I hear Damo has lumped on.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Villa in Denmark on September 05, 2018, 03:39:50 PM
Managed to get 5/2 on Slovakia to beat Denmark by more than two tonight. You can't get evens for them to win by more than four now.

I'm pretty confident of this coming in with the Danes sending a combination of their futsal team and a bunch of Third/Fourth Division dross.

Only thing that will worry me is if I hear Damo has lumped on.
Especially if you bare in mind that Danish 3rd division dross is akin to whatever is below the conference.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on September 06, 2018, 10:42:05 AM
Managed to get 5/2 on Slovakia to beat Denmark by more than two tonight. You can't get evens for them to win by more than four now.

I'm pretty confident of this coming in with the Danes sending a combination of their futsal team and a bunch of Third/Fourth Division dross.

Only thing that will worry me is if I hear Damo has lumped on.


Don't panic, I haven't. I have a fourfold on four of the other games. It looks like a number of betting companies have stopped accepting outright bets on the Danish game. It sounds like you got on at the right time and got a cracking price.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on September 06, 2018, 12:52:52 PM
The Danish game was yesterday, that's probably why they've stopped accepting bets. 😉

Only won three-nil so I just about won my bet. I assume that the odds on Wales to beat them on Sunday will be prohibitive. You can't bet on it yet as the Welsh have a game against Ireland first.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Nev on September 06, 2018, 01:03:55 PM
After the best England showing in a tournament for years the first game after is safely tucked away behind Murdoch's pay wall.

Nice.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on September 06, 2018, 01:17:44 PM
The Danish game was yesterday, that's probably why they've stopped accepting bets. 😉

Only won three-nil so I just about won my bet. I assume that the odds on Wales to beat them on Sunday will be prohibitive. You can't bet on it yet as the Welsh have a game against Ireland first.


That just shows how this Nations League is confusing me. I agree with ADVILLAFAN comparing it to 'Numberwang'.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on September 06, 2018, 08:29:27 PM
Yesterday was a friendly. There are still quite a few friendlies due to the (irritating) presence of three-team groups meaning one team is always without a game otherwise.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on September 06, 2018, 10:32:08 PM
The Danes have postponed their industrial action so Wales will face a full team. Thought it worth mentioning in case anyone was thinking of getting against them.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 06, 2018, 10:41:14 PM
The Danes have postponed their industrial action so Wales will face a full team. Thought it worth mentioning in case anyone was thinking of getting against them.

Your ventriloquism act still needs work.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on September 06, 2018, 10:47:34 PM
Oh, gollocks.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Comrade Blitz on September 07, 2018, 12:21:42 PM
The Danes have postponed their industrial action so Wales will face a full team. Thought it worth mentioning in case anyone was thinking of getting against them.

I wonder how many of the Danish team had a punt on Slovakia winning by more than 2 goals as well.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: adrenachrome on September 10, 2018, 07:59:36 PM
McGinn has been sharp in the first 10 minutes against Albania.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: manic-road on October 15, 2018, 08:46:02 PM
Impressive first half for England in Spain, quality centre forward play from Kane and decent finishes from Rashford and Sterling.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Pete3206 on November 04, 2018, 09:52:31 PM
So, many times tournament flop Wayne Rooney, is to receive another England cap against USA in an upcoming match against the USA. If international friendlies weren't pointless enough, we're now bringing in special guests to play for the national team. Are we celebrating his one solitary World Cup finals goal?
   
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on November 04, 2018, 11:26:55 PM
I don't mind him being in the squad, they can bring him off the bench if Lineker starts to tire.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 04, 2018, 11:37:01 PM
In fairness to him he's had a stormer over there, that said I wouldn't bring him back.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: usav on November 05, 2018, 02:14:20 PM
In fairness to him he's had a stormer over there, that said I wouldn't bring him back.
Agreed, it all seems a little silly.  Have him in the pre-match for presentation or something by all means, but playing seems a little off.  Caps should be earned. 
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: wittonwarrior on November 05, 2018, 04:56:30 PM
Its really annoying that this  sort of diminished  friendly which  effectively is not a testimonial ruins our weekend football.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Behind Bluenose Lines on November 05, 2018, 05:07:55 PM
In fairness to him he's had a stormer over there, that said I wouldn't bring him back.
Agreed, it all seems a little silly.  Have him in the pre-match for presentation or something by all means, but playing seems a little off.  Caps should be earned.

It's obviou$ why he's playing: a stadium still needs to be paid for irrespective of ownership...
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on November 05, 2018, 05:16:18 PM
I would love to know Gareth Southgate's thoughts. Actually I think I already do. Whatever kind of friendly/showpiece game/testimonial hybrid this match is classed as I suspect things might be a bit awkward if Rooney scores a couple and is named MOTM.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Pete3206 on November 05, 2018, 08:14:57 PM
Pass the sick bag

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DrO5pw9WkAALqpQ.jpg)
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Behind Bluenose Lines on November 13, 2018, 10:42:31 AM
Apparently 20,000 more tickets have be sold for this game since Rooney was confirmed as playing.

Fools and their money...
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Somniloquism on November 14, 2018, 09:36:14 PM
I would love to know Gareth Southgate's thoughts. Actually I think I already do. Whatever kind of friendly/showpiece game/testimonial hybrid this match is classed as I suspect things might be a bit awkward if Rooney scores a couple and is named MOTM.

Quote
Manager Gareth Southgate added: "I don't want to pin an exact time on when Wayne comes on because you don't know how the flow of the game will go.

"We will give him enough so that it is fitting but we also want to make sure we get the balance of looking at younger players and making sure our preparation for Sunday is another priority.

"It's important for all of us as a group that he gets a good send-off."

So sounds to me like Rooney was forced onto him but he will hold out playing him for as long as possible.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: dave shelley on November 16, 2018, 08:53:44 PM
Chester off with a knee injury, he walked off.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Bad English on November 17, 2018, 06:28:25 AM
The Netherlands beat France 2-0 and are now unofficial World Champions. :-/
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on November 17, 2018, 02:47:19 PM
It sounds like Mitrovic has just tried and failed to execute a 'Panenka' penalty for Serbia against Montenegro.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on November 17, 2018, 10:00:50 PM
I had a 46/1 sixfold on today's International games. Serbia, Azerbaijan, Kosovo and Sweden all won for me earlier today and this evening and my laptop was telling me Scotland were cruising to a win for me too. Unfortunately the fly in the ointment was the game I was watching on SKY where my selection Italy were playing pretty poorly in failing to beat Portugal.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: SheffieldVillain on November 21, 2018, 11:03:16 AM
O'Neill and Keane potted by Rep of Ireland.

Couldn't happen to a nicer pair.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/46289969
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: DB on November 21, 2018, 01:03:11 PM
O'Neill and Keane potted by Rep of Ireland.

Couldn't happen to a nicer pair.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/46289969

Good. Out of all our recent managers, he is the biggest twat IMO
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on November 21, 2018, 04:44:14 PM
I have never really bought into the MON hatred. He did a good job whilst here and left us in decent shape. I felt at the time his timing in leaving was possibly spiteful but even that is debatable and he may have felt he had little choice but to go. Lerner's waining interest and the appointments of McLeish and decision to give Lambert more time than he deserved did for us far more than anything MON did or didn't do. European football and Wembley visits were nice. After his impressive spells at Leicester and Celtic we probably squeezed the last of the best out of him because he hasn't achieved anything of note since leaving us.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: DB on November 21, 2018, 10:18:20 PM
He didn't achieve anything with us. Old 'arry over took him and less time got Spuds into the Champions League. Him and Lerner combined left us in the shit.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on March 17, 2019, 10:50:25 AM
How about we hold the 2022 World Cup in Qatar. A totally unprepared country with serious human rights issues. Ignore the fact that so many rival football fans will be contained together in such a small area. In fact, how about we now decide to expand it to a forty eight team tournament. I suppose we could throw in another Gulf country to share the load. Not that any of this was taken into account during the bidding process but what the hell.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Pete3206 on March 18, 2019, 10:44:36 PM
Grealish must be a shoe in for the Euros next year if he's playing in the Premier League. A Chelsea player with not one Premier League start makes the full England squad.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on March 21, 2019, 10:21:57 PM
Scotland lost to Boratís country 3-0.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: manic-road on March 22, 2019, 07:52:59 AM
Scotland lost to Borat’s country 3-0.

McLeish said in his interview after the game that Scotland started the game well, they were 2-0 down after less than 10 minutes.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Mossie Hennebry on March 22, 2019, 08:59:20 PM
Thor puts Iceland 1-0 up.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: dave shelley on March 23, 2019, 07:51:29 PM
John Delaney steps down as CEO of the Republic of Ireland with immediate effect.

Link (https://www.the42.ie/john-delaney-fai-chief-executive-steps-down-football-ceo-4557788-Mar2019/?utm_source=twitter_short&fbclid=IwAR1uDjO6ZeyLGokch2Ikxp9I44NazKGEUH0i-_TJ4cO259TD3wT2xNTMM9Y)

Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Mossie Hennebry on March 23, 2019, 08:37:01 PM
John Delaney steps down as CEO of the Republic of Ireland with immediate effect.

Link (https://www.the42.ie/john-delaney-fai-chief-executive-steps-down-football-ceo-4557788-Mar2019/?utm_source=twitter_short&fbclid=IwAR1uDjO6ZeyLGokch2Ikxp9I44NazKGEUH0i-_TJ4cO259TD3wT2xNTMM9Y)
He has taken up a newly-created role of Exec VP of the FAI. Smoke and mirrors.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: dave shelley on March 23, 2019, 08:41:53 PM
John Delaney steps down as CEO of the Republic of Ireland with immediate effect.

Link (https://www.the42.ie/john-delaney-fai-chief-executive-steps-down-football-ceo-4557788-Mar2019/?utm_source=twitter_short&fbclid=IwAR1uDjO6ZeyLGokch2Ikxp9I44NazKGEUH0i-_TJ4cO259TD3wT2xNTMM9Y)
He has taken up a newly-created role of Exec VP of the FAI. Smoke and mirrors.

Summat don't smell right does it?
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Mossie Hennebry on March 23, 2019, 08:47:37 PM
The association is rotten to the core. He has surrounded himself with yesmen over the last number of years and they have saved his skin again. I assume this new role has been created to allow him to keep his Ä160k/yr FIFA role .
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on March 23, 2019, 09:25:34 PM
Scotland lost to Boratís country 3-0.

McLeish said in his interview after the game that Scotland started the game well, they were 2-0 down after less than 10 minutes.

They must have had a blinding first five minutes. Although I watched the game and don't recall it being like that.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on March 28, 2019, 01:22:01 PM
David Moyes, Steve Clarke and Derek McInnes in that order are the bookies favourites to be the next Scotland manager.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on March 28, 2019, 08:16:03 PM
I want somebody foreign and exciting, like we should have done when we turned down the Sweden manager before he went on to manage Iceland to the World Cup and the Quarter-Finals of the Euros.

I could live with it being Clarke or McInnes who, at least, seem to be forward thinking and on an upward trajectory.

If it's some dinosaur who is only willing to lower himself to take the Scotland job because he's been sacked by everyone else, like Moyes, Lambert or Strachan again, it'll prove that they've learned nothing from the ludicrous McLeish appointment and they can get directly tae fuck.

It's the SFA, though. They'll go for the Moyesosaur.

This is all assuming the useless twats even have the strength of character to admit their error and get rid of McLeish, which I'm far from certain will happen.
Title: Re: International Football 2017/18
Post by: adrenachrome on May 19, 2019, 07:31:50 PM
Quote

John Percy
‏Verified account @JPercyTelegraph
23m23 minutes ago

Steve Clarke set to be confirmed as the new Scotland manager early this week. Terms and compensation with #Kilmarnock still to be finalised. Leaves Killie after securing 3rd place and European football. Amazing achievement which arguably deserves greater recognition
7 replies 31 retweets 93 likes
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: adrenachrome on June 05, 2019, 10:42:46 PM
England fans kicking off in Portugal.

Quote
This group of England fans now singing the German bombers song at junction of Avenida dos Aliados and Rua de Sampaio Bruno. PSP riot officers clearing area and waiting


https://twitter.com/SamWallaceTel/status/1136379722575880192
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: KRS on June 05, 2019, 11:03:03 PM
Drinking and singing isnít exactly kicking off? 🤔
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: amfy on June 05, 2019, 11:20:14 PM
I was at the fanzone watching the Portugal Switzerland game and sadly a number of England fans were behaving like compete dickheads.

They started off just singing, which was a little obnoxious because it wasn't our game & it was really clear that many of them were looking for a reaction, but it was not too bad. Nonetheless, Mike & I decided to move up the fan park to the other screen and distance ourselves.

As soon as Portugal scored bottles started being thrown. Loads of people were scatttering down the side streets. The police were moving in with riot gear. After 5-10 mins many of the culprits started to filter back - some were walking wounded with cuts on their faces, arms and legs.

It calmed down for a while and went back to more good natured singing. Then the Portuguese fans decided they would join in the winding up of the situation and it deteriorated again. We were positioned more amongst the Portuguese but the England fans were gathered & banking up on the opposite side of the road looking confrontational. A couple of bottles were thrown. Some Portuguese fans also started to pick up bottles but Mike spoke to them and suggested they walk away which they did. Then the England fans charged and we all started to run!

At that point it was about 10 mins from the end and we felt that nothing could be gained by staying longer so we headed back for our tram. En route we knew Portugal had scored due to mass honking of car horns in the city!

The atmosphere on the tram back was fine despite many England supporters amongst the Portuguese and Swiss fans. The problem was quite a small core who were pretty hell bent on stirring it up. They spoilt what could have been a really good night.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: KRS on June 06, 2019, 12:50:31 AM
Just seen some footage of the incidents. Disgraced again. Fcukin idiots. 😡

I fear it will only get worse tomorrow...
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: ChicagoLion on June 06, 2019, 12:27:29 PM
Where was this happening, I am heading to Porto .
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: usav on June 06, 2019, 12:34:45 PM
Not condoning anyone throwing anything, but glass bottles in a fan zone?  Hopefully they either shut it down today or at least have plastic only.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Duncan Shaw on June 06, 2019, 01:05:21 PM

(https://i.ibb.co/BfVDpg0/Capture.jpg) (https://ibb.co/BfVDpg0)


Great..paints us well!!  Lead picture of it from the Telegraph.....
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: amfy on June 06, 2019, 05:29:52 PM
Where was this happening, I am heading to Porto .

In the fanzone big screens at central Porto.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: amfy on June 06, 2019, 05:33:21 PM
Not condoning anyone throwing anything, but glass bottles in a fan zone?  Hopefully they either shut it down today or at least have plastic only.

Naive definitely. There were no controls coming in & out of the square at all. Loads of people bought crates of beer, loads bought bottles.

In the UK we are also used to anti-terrorism measures for big events like this.

Today - people were being stopped from taking glass onto the train to Guimar„es & there concourse is full of young lads desperately pouring bottles of Super Bock into 2 litre plastic water bottles!
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: cdbullyweefan on June 06, 2019, 08:05:56 PM
Where has "Other Games" gone? Anyway, was going to cheer for England till I remembered about the stupid fucking drum. Oh, and Delph is playing.

Mon Holland.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: TaxDodger on June 06, 2019, 08:06:35 PM
Fabian Delph? Thought he'd retired.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: dave shelley on June 06, 2019, 08:12:33 PM
I've spotted one Villa flag so far.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: cdbullyweefan on June 06, 2019, 08:13:04 PM
Might change my mind again after seeing Babbel..

Red hair with an orange shirt? What the fuck is he thinking?
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 06, 2019, 08:13:54 PM
Where has "Other Games" gone? Anyway, was going to cheer for England till I remembered about the stupid fucking drum. Oh, and Delph is playing.

Mon Holland.

It had been moved by someone to the match thread section, so i've moved it to this section.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 06, 2019, 08:17:19 PM
Penalty England
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 06, 2019, 08:18:53 PM
GOAL
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: dave shelley on June 06, 2019, 08:19:50 PM
Well taken penalty that.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: KRS on June 06, 2019, 08:27:57 PM
Is this game only available on Sky Sports?
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: hilts_coolerking on June 06, 2019, 08:29:27 PM
I've got it on a stream if you're interested.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: KRS on June 06, 2019, 08:32:08 PM
Yes please hilts 👍
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: hilts_coolerking on June 06, 2019, 08:34:47 PM
PM sent
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Meanwood Villa on June 06, 2019, 08:47:16 PM
Looked quite good going forward but lots of near suicidal errors at the back.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: SamTheMouse on June 06, 2019, 09:03:11 PM
Delph really isn't international quality.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on June 06, 2019, 09:04:01 PM
England demonstrate the importance of having a great goalkeeper.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Dante Lavelli on June 06, 2019, 09:09:31 PM
I've got it on a stream if you're interested.

Me too please
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: KRS on June 06, 2019, 09:09:46 PM
Are Barkley, Delph and Rice really our best midfield options now?
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: hilts_coolerking on June 06, 2019, 09:12:32 PM
I've got it on a stream if you're interested.

Me too please
PM sent
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: KRS on June 06, 2019, 09:19:52 PM
Bolx.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 06, 2019, 09:20:13 PM
1-1 it's been coming
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on June 06, 2019, 09:21:34 PM
Can't be many complaints with that. Holland have been running the game this half.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: dave shelley on June 06, 2019, 09:22:59 PM
I don't like this England side at all.  Too many players that are not international class for me.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 06, 2019, 09:26:55 PM
Midfield is very poor. They need a bloke that can hold onto the ball, take players on and create chances for our attacking power, or just win freekicks to ease the pressure. If only there was an English player who could do that kind of thing.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: KRS on June 06, 2019, 09:29:54 PM
Already used all 3 subs. Is a fourth allowed if this goes into extra time? Donít see who can change the game from the bench though tbh.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: KRS on June 06, 2019, 09:30:04 PM
Goal!!!
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: dave shelley on June 06, 2019, 09:30:25 PM
VAR
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 06, 2019, 09:30:34 PM
never in doubt
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: KRS on June 06, 2019, 09:31:18 PM
Fcuk. VAR decision for offside...

edit: doh!
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 06, 2019, 09:31:20 PM
Great goal, if it stands, considering where Stones was at one stage.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 06, 2019, 09:33:19 PM
VAR again
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: hilts_coolerking on June 06, 2019, 09:33:38 PM
Unlucky there.  Can only have been a whisker in it.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: KRS on June 06, 2019, 09:33:46 PM
VAR decision for handball. This is getting daft now.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: KRS on June 06, 2019, 09:35:00 PM
The offside decision looked like there was just a toe in it. Very very tight.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on June 06, 2019, 09:35:29 PM
If this goes to penalties I can understand Southgate's decision to bring on Harry Kane.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: jwarry on June 06, 2019, 09:35:37 PM
England so need Jack
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Dante Lavelli on June 06, 2019, 09:36:38 PM
The offside decision looked like there was just a toe in it. Very very tight.

Not a fan of VAR, the Ďclear and obvious errorí element is largely ignored.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: cdbullyweefan on June 06, 2019, 09:37:49 PM
It's got both decisions right. I like VAR.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: hilts_coolerking on June 06, 2019, 09:38:26 PM
The delay is the problem for me.  It's in its infancy though.  I'm sure it will speed up.  It has in cricket.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 06, 2019, 09:38:28 PM
He was offside, I don't think there's any doubt to it.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: cdbullyweefan on June 06, 2019, 09:38:50 PM
England so need Jack

And the Dutch need Anwar. Not just yet, though. Don't want them bumping the price up.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Behind Bluenose Lines on June 06, 2019, 09:39:05 PM
England so need Jack
Sshhhh! Man Ure might be listening...
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: hilts_coolerking on June 06, 2019, 09:39:24 PM
I love international football.  It's going to be great when Jack's involved.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 06, 2019, 09:42:00 PM
Tonev saves England.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: hilts_coolerking on June 06, 2019, 09:44:36 PM
What a turnaround in Sterling over the last 12 months.  He was virtually a pariah at the World Cup.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: jwarry on June 06, 2019, 09:45:46 PM
Fair play Southgate for changing that, we were down and out but finished the stronger
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Rudy65 on June 06, 2019, 09:46:53 PM
Fair play Southgate for changing that, we were down and out but finished the stronger

Sancho should still be on
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: jwarry on June 06, 2019, 09:54:38 PM
Walker has been terrible tonight.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Lizz on June 06, 2019, 09:55:49 PM
2-1 now.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: dave shelley on June 06, 2019, 09:56:37 PM
Never fails does it?
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: jwarry on June 06, 2019, 09:56:49 PM
God that was absolute stupidity
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Villa in Denmark on June 06, 2019, 09:56:50 PM
What a fuck up by Stones.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: KRS on June 06, 2019, 09:58:00 PM
What a cluster fuck that was.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Lizz on June 06, 2019, 09:58:02 PM
Just looked up the spelling of the names of the Dutch players, as every time I've heard the commentators mention Dumfries (and his name is spelt as in the place) I'm mentally adding 'and Galloway'.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Dazvillain on June 06, 2019, 09:58:19 PM
AVFC sign Mings and heíll be bossing this England back line soon
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: KRS on June 06, 2019, 09:58:43 PM
Nearly 3-1 there.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Des Little on June 06, 2019, 09:58:44 PM
Stones is an absolute bomb scare.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 06, 2019, 09:59:10 PM
Players have to be smart enough to know that there are times you just lump it. I hate this new obsession with always playing it out and never using common fucking sense.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: TonyD on June 06, 2019, 09:59:33 PM
England have been total garbage.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Behind Bluenose Lines on June 06, 2019, 09:59:42 PM
Never fails does it?
Ridiculous goal!
Would we have beaten Ronaldo on Sunday anyway? 
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Villa75 on June 06, 2019, 10:00:07 PM
How the fuck did Lingard not get a booking for that!?
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: hilts_coolerking on June 06, 2019, 10:00:11 PM
England have been total garbage.
That's very harsh.  We've been very good coming forward.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: jwarry on June 06, 2019, 10:00:15 PM
Stones is an absolute bomb scare.

Have to say Mings is better from what I can see
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Behind Bluenose Lines on June 06, 2019, 10:00:26 PM
AVFC sign Mings and heíll be bossing this England back line soon
I wish!
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: adrenachrome on June 06, 2019, 10:00:55 PM

Ian Taylor
‏Verified account @IanTaylor7
3m3 minutes ago

Wow........ Stones...... 😩
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: jwarry on June 06, 2019, 10:01:32 PM
England have been total garbage.
That's very harsh.  We've been very good coming forward.

And before full time there was only one winner.  Thatís why we love this game
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: hilts_coolerking on June 06, 2019, 10:02:30 PM
What's the prize for winning this tournament?
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Jon Crofts on June 06, 2019, 10:03:07 PM
Woeful from Stones.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: KRS on June 06, 2019, 10:03:18 PM
Commentators on my stream have randomly started speaking a different language...feels more like an international game now.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: dave shelley on June 06, 2019, 10:03:23 PM
Stones is a word used around here to describe someone who is a bit thick.  Seems England's Stones is appropriately named.  Rocks for brains.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: taylorsworkrate on June 06, 2019, 10:06:06 PM
England have been total garbage.
That's very harsh.  We've been very good coming forward.

Good going forward, but id be embarrassed if a pub team defended the way England have.

Lets be honest, if Holland had been as good as average in front of goal they'd have got a hatful tonight. Im all for bringing it out from the back, but we've been caught 7 or 8 times which is pathetic.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 06, 2019, 10:06:35 PM
What's the prize for winning this tournament?

Being the undisputed best in the world.



Or some shit trophy if it's not England.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: devilla on June 06, 2019, 10:14:10 PM
What's the prize for winning this tournament?

Being the undisputed best in the world.



Or some shit trophy if it's not England.

Or a 10 minute trolley dash in Lidl.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: TonyD on June 06, 2019, 10:15:59 PM
England have been total garbage.
That's very harsh.  We've been very good coming forward.

Good going forward, but id be embarrassed if a pub team defended the way England have.

Lets be honest, if Holland had been as good as average in front of goal they'd have got a hatful tonight. Im all for bringing it out from the back, but we've been caught 7 or 8 times which is pathetic.
Because the midfield has been clueless and not giving any options.  The Dutch are crap but all they have had to do is play a high line and compress the middle to which we have had no answer.  Southgate is no master tactician.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Lizz on June 06, 2019, 10:16:01 PM
Oh dear.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Villa in Denmark on June 06, 2019, 10:16:02 PM
Fucking carbon copy. Brain-dead twats.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 06, 2019, 10:16:49 PM
Dumb fucks.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Villa75 on June 06, 2019, 10:17:17 PM
What's the prize for winning this tournament?

We'll never know.

Once other countries start taking it as serious as us, we're fucked.😂
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Jon Crofts on June 06, 2019, 10:18:07 PM
Same old story. 
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: jwarry on June 06, 2019, 10:18:59 PM
England have been total garbage.
That's very harsh.  We've been very good coming forward.

Good going forward, but id be embarrassed if a pub team defended the way England have.

Lets be honest, if Holland had been as good as average in front of goal they'd have got a hatful tonight. Im all for bringing it out from the back, but we've been caught 7 or 8 times which is pathetic.
Because the midfield has been clueless and not giving any options.  The Dutch are crap but all they have had to do is play a high line and compress the middle to which we have had no answer.  Southgate is no master tactician.

You canít blame Southgate if the players just fuck up. These are players that play it from the back week in week out but tonight they have just been terrible. Stick at it Gareth
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: KRS on June 06, 2019, 10:19:17 PM
What the actual fuck? Thatís just embarrassing to concede 2 goals like that. Piss poor pathetic.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: TonyD on June 06, 2019, 10:20:36 PM
Gareth never has a plan B.   
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: taylorsworkrate on June 06, 2019, 10:20:46 PM
Massively flattered by the scoreline. Tried our best to gift them several more goals.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 06, 2019, 10:21:00 PM
I ave no problem playing it out the majority of time, it's doing it every time no matter how dangerous it is that I have a problem with. Common sense, awareness etc need to be coached as well.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Behind Bluenose Lines on June 06, 2019, 10:21:18 PM
Cue the usual post elimination soul searching across the media...
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: taylorsworkrate on June 06, 2019, 10:21:46 PM
What the actual fuck? Thatís just embarrassing to concede 2 goals like that. Piss poor pathetic.

Been extremely lucky not to have conceded several more in the same circumstance.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Des Little on June 06, 2019, 10:23:17 PM
Oh to be a Porto bar owner tonight...
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: jwarry on June 06, 2019, 10:23:27 PM
Gareth never has a plan B.   

You are having a laugh arenít you? He changed it when we were under the cosh and almost won it except for that pesky VR. He canít legislate for stupidity surely?
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Villa75 on June 06, 2019, 10:27:00 PM
To be fair, the Dutch were far better than us.

How people expect us to win anything, when UEFA and FIFA keep making us (eventually) play teams better than us, I'll never know.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: KRS on June 06, 2019, 10:27:06 PM
Shits me up every time when Villa play it out from the back in dangerous positions...we got away with it numerous times last season when it simply isnít worth the risk. England players got punished for it tonight.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: taylorsworkrate on June 06, 2019, 10:30:44 PM
England need much more mobile options in midfield. Delph and Rice were exposed big time by energy levels of the Dutch
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: ktvillan on June 06, 2019, 10:30:53 PM
A bit like Villa, always a propensity to shoot ourselves in the foot.  That said I think Southgate got his selection badly wrong tonight.  If Wijnaldum and Van Dijk were fit enough why weren't England's Madrid 7?  Delph, Barkley and Rice in midfield was way too weak and inexperienced for a major semi final. 


Walker always looks like a mistake waiting to happen but his pace is his get out of jail card.  Stones was a mistake waiting to happen and he did.  I'd blame him for the third as well, hospital pass to Barkley. 

I've always been in favour of VAR but now reconsidering.  They are ignoring the"clear and obvious" criteria completely.  But really it's the new offside law that is shite - there used to have to be daylight between the attacker and the nearest defender.  It favoured the attacking team a little.  You can now be offside by a foreskin.  Time to sign a jewish centre forward.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Villa75 on June 06, 2019, 10:34:36 PM
Gareth never has a plan B.   

You are having a laugh arenít you? He changed it when we were under the cosh and almost won it except for that pesky VR. He canít legislate for stupidity surely?

Eh!? Almost won it? We played 120 minutes. Our last shot on target was in the 54th minute!!
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Villan For Life on June 06, 2019, 10:37:56 PM
A bit like Villa, always a propensity to shoot ourselves in the foot.  That said I think Southgate got his selection badly wrong tonight.  If Wijnaldum and Van Dijk were fit enough why weren't England's Madrid 7?  Delph, Barkley and Rice in midfield was way too weak and inexperienced for a major semi final

A major semi Final? Really?
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 06, 2019, 10:38:51 PM
14-3 shots on target.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 06, 2019, 10:40:02 PM
A bit like Villa, always a propensity to shoot ourselves in the foot.  That said I think Southgate got his selection badly wrong tonight.  If Wijnaldum and Van Dijk were fit enough why weren't England's Madrid 7?  Delph, Barkley and Rice in midfield was way too weak and inexperienced for a major semi final

A major semi Final? Really?

I'd say it qualifies as one considering the teams that entered it. Admittedly more a League Cup semi than FA Cup but still a major one.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: ktvillan on June 06, 2019, 10:41:17 PM
A bit like Villa, always a propensity to shoot ourselves in the foot.  That said I think Southgate got his selection badly wrong tonight.  If Wijnaldum and Van Dijk were fit enough why weren't England's Madrid 7?  Delph, Barkley and Rice in midfield was way too weak and inexperienced for a major semi final

A major semi Final? Really?

Well after the World cup and the euros what else is bigger?
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Villan For Life on June 06, 2019, 10:44:18 PM
A bit like Villa, always a propensity to shoot ourselves in the foot.  That said I think Southgate got his selection badly wrong tonight.  If Wijnaldum and Van Dijk were fit enough why weren't England's Madrid 7?  Delph, Barkley and Rice in midfield was way too weak and inexperienced for a major semi final

A major semi Final? Really?

I'd say it qualifies as one considering the teams that entered it. Admittedly more a League Cup semi than FA Cup but still a major one.

Iím not sure. A competition that was created to promote competitive football in place of meaningless friendlies in principle is a good idea. Are we shedding tears tonight? Are pubs full of people in England shirts wondering what might have been?

Itís the equivalent of the Inter Toto Cup.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: ktvillan on June 06, 2019, 10:54:29 PM
A bit like Villa, always a propensity to shoot ourselves in the foot.  That said I think Southgate got his selection badly wrong tonight.  If Wijnaldum and Van Dijk were fit enough why weren't England's Madrid 7?  Delph, Barkley and Rice in midfield was way too weak and inexperienced for a major semi final

A major semi Final? Really?

I'd say it qualifies as one considering the teams that entered it. Admittedly more a League Cup semi than FA Cup but still a major one.

Iím not sure. A competition that was created to promote competitive football in place of meaningless friendlies in principle is a good idea. Are we shedding tears tonight? Are pubs full of people in England shirts wondering what might have been?

Itís the equivalent of the Inter Toto Cup.

Personally I didn't shed tears after our many inevitable World Cup or Euro exits.  Some people may have and I dare say some might tonight.  Who knows?  I usually fell frustration at our ability to self harm.  I feel the same tonight.  It's a competition involving all major European countries so surely has some prestige?  People used to scoff at the League Cup when it first started, and the English didn't bother with the European Cup for years.  That soon changed.   
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Villa75 on June 06, 2019, 10:54:41 PM
A bit like Villa, always a propensity to shoot ourselves in the foot.  That said I think Southgate got his selection badly wrong tonight.  If Wijnaldum and Van Dijk were fit enough why weren't England's Madrid 7?  Delph, Barkley and Rice in midfield was way too weak and inexperienced for a major semi final

A major semi Final? Really?

Well after the World cup and the euros what else is bigger?

Us being in a Confederations Cup semi final would be bigger than this. As we would have had to win the World Cup or Euros to be there.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: TheMalandro on June 06, 2019, 11:06:24 PM
Gary Neville trying to explain how he understands the game more than anybody else is the highlight of the competition.

Sorry Neville, two England players royally fucked it up tonight.
It's not about passing from the back, or our naivety. It's shitness.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: ChicagoLion on June 06, 2019, 11:07:50 PM
Too many players on the beach or simply not good enough.
Sadly itís back to the old England of tired and fail.
But as said above, I thought the idea of VAR was to rule out the obvious mistakes but that decision beggars belief.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 06, 2019, 11:13:54 PM
Offside was clear to me, it was a fraction but it was offside.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Villa75 on June 06, 2019, 11:20:14 PM
Yep. It was offside.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: ktvillan on June 07, 2019, 12:01:58 AM
But it wasn't clear and obvious offside. as was proved by the fact it was just his toes that were offside, pretty much impossible for the linesman to spot.  That said if any decision is clear and obvious you shouldn't need VAR in the first place.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 07, 2019, 12:43:01 AM
I'd say that VAR did exactly what you'd want it to. Player scores a goal but was offside, goal doesn't stand. How much he was offside doesn't matter to me as I want the correct decision made if VAR is used. And I think that despite it 'costing' England a place in the final.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Monty on June 07, 2019, 01:44:00 AM
England really need to work players like Jack and Foden and Winks into the side. Mistakes happen, but it felt to me like they happened tonight because the defenders never quite trusted the midfield enough to play out properly and keep the ball. With players like those three in the team it's very different when you look up as a centre back and try to find the right pass.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: cdbullyweefan on June 07, 2019, 06:43:46 AM
A bit like Villa, always a propensity to shoot ourselves in the foot.  That said I think Southgate got his selection badly wrong tonight.  If Wijnaldum and Van Dijk were fit enough why weren't England's Madrid 7?  Delph, Barkley and Rice in midfield was way too weak and inexperienced for a major semi final

A major semi Final? Really?

Uefa want it to be big, and it seems like it will be around for a while. Not classing this ad a big tournament is a bit like dismissing Villa's League Cup win in 1961, IMO.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: brian green on June 07, 2019, 08:59:23 AM
There is playing it out of the back and there is defensive showboating.  England's errors fell into the latter category.  Agree with The Malandro.  Most entertaining part of the evening for me was Carragher, Redknapp and Neville pumping their post match egos to bursting point.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Londonfranky on June 07, 2019, 09:44:20 AM
I think England must have watched Fulhamís video from last season watching that defending last night, thatís what I  had to watch for most of the last season!!
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Nev on June 07, 2019, 01:58:37 PM
Last night seemed to take us back to the bad old days, bottle throwing in the streets and mollycoddling players because they played one game in almost four weeks. At the very least the Liverpool players would've walked onto the pitch feeling 10ft tall, chomping at the bit, and perhaps the Spurs players might've wanted to "get straight back on the bike" so to speak. The Dutch had no such issue although it was our own failings that did for us in the end. That midfield looked very weak, demonstrating our lack of depth but why we didn't try and blood new players is beyond me. The only people who think that this is a "major" tournament is Sky, due to the fact that they never cover one. Yes, it's a welcome step up from freindlies but nothing more and now we end up in another game that no one wants to play.

Last summer feels like a long, long way away.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: manic-road on June 07, 2019, 06:51:22 PM
Last night seemed to take us back to the bad old days, bottle throwing in the streets and mollycoddling players because they played one game in almost four weeks. At the very least the Liverpool players would've walked onto the pitch feeling 10ft tall, chomping at the bit, and perhaps the Spurs players might've wanted to "get straight back on the bike" so to speak. The Dutch had no such issue although it was our own failings that did for us in the end. That midfield looked very weak, demonstrating our lack of depth but why we didn't try and blood new players is beyond me. The only people who think that this is a "major" tournament is Sky, due to the fact that they never cover one. Yes, it's a welcome step up from freindlies but nothing more and now we end up in another game that no one wants to play.

Last summer feels like a long, long way away.

Absolutely agree about the midfield Nev, England have no chance of winning trophies with that midfield. It is by far the weakest area of the England team.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: SteveN on June 07, 2019, 06:55:29 PM
Last night seemed to take us back to the bad old days, bottle throwing in the streets and mollycoddling players because they played one game in almost four weeks. At the very least the Liverpool players would've walked onto the pitch feeling 10ft tall, chomping at the bit, and perhaps the Spurs players might've wanted to "get straight back on the bike" so to speak. The Dutch had no such issue although it was our own failings that did for us in the end. That midfield looked very weak, demonstrating our lack of depth but why we didn't try and blood new players is beyond me. The only people who think that this is a "major" tournament is Sky, due to the fact that they never cover one. Yes, it's a welcome step up from freindlies but nothing more and now we end up in another game that no one wants to play.

Last summer feels like a long, long way away.

Absolutely agree about the midfield Nev, England have no chance of winning trophies with that midfield. It is by far the weakest area of the England team.


Maddison, Foden, Grealish should all be given a chance to add some creativity and Loftus Cheek should add more when he is fit.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: KRS on June 07, 2019, 07:35:44 PM
You simply canít play 3 upfront with those 3 in midfield...he should have changed to 442 or 451 if Delph, Barkley and Rice are the best midfield options available.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: ChicagoLion on June 07, 2019, 09:55:44 PM
Staggered by his naivety.
Saw the team sheet and new we would get over run with that midfield.
Did Rice touch the ball in the first half?
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Damo70 on June 08, 2019, 03:36:15 PM
I need Wales to pull a goal back in the last twenty minutes.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Damo70 on June 08, 2019, 03:38:58 PM
Nice one. Now I have to endure the last fifteen minutes or so hoping no more goals are scored!
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Damo70 on June 08, 2019, 04:20:22 PM
Croatia 2-1 at 15/2, good start to the evening.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Damo70 on June 08, 2019, 05:44:42 PM
Northern Ireland with 61% possession in the first half in Estonia but a goal behind.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Damo70 on June 08, 2019, 06:59:06 PM
Second winner of the day. I had Northern Ireland to win 2-1 at 9/1. Two winners out of two and four more to go.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: ChicagoLion on June 08, 2019, 07:35:21 PM
Croatia real exponents of the dark arts.
Although it would be hard to not kick Bale with that stupid hairstyle.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Damo70 on June 08, 2019, 08:44:07 PM
I watched the first half of Turkey v France and France haven't turned up. They are making Turkey look like world beaters. I think I will give the second half of Scotland v Cyprus a go.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Villa Lew on June 08, 2019, 09:07:09 PM
Cracking goal from Andy Robertson with assist from SJM. 1 - 0 Scotland.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Damo70 on June 08, 2019, 09:36:45 PM
It looks like Scotland have nicked it at the death. I have only seen the second half but I think in general they have looked crap.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Tuscans on June 09, 2019, 01:58:39 PM
How many times will they mention the "conditions" playing a part. They're not playing on the surface of the sun for ffs....it's 22 degrees!
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Damo70 on June 09, 2019, 02:07:25 PM
How many times will they mention the "conditions" playing a part. They're not playing on the surface of the sun for ffs....it's 22 degrees!

We wouldn't stand much chance in Qatar if we can't handle the heat of Portugal.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Pete3206 on June 09, 2019, 04:51:56 PM
At least England have go the hang of penalties. 
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Damo70 on June 09, 2019, 04:56:37 PM
At least England have go the hang of penalties.

Both scoring them and stopping them. I can't remember which player it was but apparently someone had a pop at Peter Shilton  in the dressing room after the Italia '90 semi. Shilton was boasting about going the right way for all or most of them and someone had the balls to reply "But you never f*cking saved any"!
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: ktvillan on June 09, 2019, 05:06:10 PM
Shilton said he waited to see which way the ball was going before diving.  Which is why he rarely if ever save any,  you'd have to be superman to react that quickly.  Thick as shit. 

I see Sterling reverted to his tournament self today, headless chicken/jack russell on heat/zero composure/do everything at 100 mph Sterling. 
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Pete3206 on June 09, 2019, 05:35:08 PM
Harsh on Sterling. He's had a brilliant season.

No one was that great for either side.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: ktvillan on June 09, 2019, 05:55:44 PM
I know he's had a brilliant season, but he was garbage in the World Cup and that's why I said he'd "reverted" because he's been garbage in these two games as well.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Damo70 on June 09, 2019, 09:27:14 PM
The first Nations League tournament will live long in the memory. I wish I had a Panini sticker album of it for a souvenir.  I suppose I will have to wait for Pete Davies to write the definitive book about it.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Pat McMahon on June 09, 2019, 11:25:47 PM
Shilton said he waited to see which way the ball was going before diving.  Which is why he rarely if ever save any,  you'd have to be superman to react that quickly.  Thick as shit. 

I heard Lineker talking about that during the World Cup last year. Apparently he reckoned that 2/5 penalties would go straight down the middle so told Shilton to stand up and not commit too early. It didnít quite work out.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: ozzjim on June 09, 2019, 11:29:04 PM
England are a centre half and 2 attacking midfielders away from being a decent team. Lingard and Ali have to be the most over-rated players in the country by a mile.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on June 09, 2019, 11:33:10 PM
Portugal - Holland must have been a dull game as the streets are silent. Either that or the natives don't give a shit about some Mickey Mouse tournament. Why would you when you're Champions of Europe.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: KRS on June 10, 2019, 01:38:07 AM
Just watched the highlights from both games...Holland didnít do enough to deserve anything out of the final, and England should have had the game wrapped up comfortably in 90 minutes given the chances created.

The UEFA Nations League is a nothing tournament but itís better than having even more meaningless friendly international breaks disrupting the domestic season.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Villa Lew on June 10, 2019, 09:56:33 AM
So in 240 minutes of football, England have failed to score in open play. Not great.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: ktvillan on June 10, 2019, 11:13:25 AM
Well Arguably they scored twice and without VAR both probably would have counted.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Bren'd on June 10, 2019, 12:04:19 PM
Shilton said he waited to see which way the ball was going before diving.  Which is why he rarely if ever save any,  you'd have to be superman to react that quickly.  Thick as shit. 

He really is. A brexiteer too.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: ktvillan on June 11, 2019, 07:13:12 AM
A bit like Villa, always a propensity to shoot ourselves in the foot.  That said I think Southgate got his selection badly wrong tonight.  If Wijnaldum and Van Dijk were fit enough why weren't England's Madrid 7?  Delph, Barkley and Rice in midfield was way too weak and inexperienced for a major semi final

A major semi Final? Really?

Well after the World cup and the euros what else is bigger?

Us being in a Confederations Cup semi final would be bigger than this. As we would have had to win the World Cup or Euros to be there.

Doesn't exist any more.   And not a tournament England were ever likely to be involved in.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: olaftab on June 11, 2019, 08:33:10 PM
Edited: wrong thread
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: dave shelley on June 11, 2019, 09:31:00 PM
How on earth did Scotland contrive to miss that sequence of chances?
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: cdbullyweefan on June 12, 2019, 12:43:23 AM
Practice.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: brian green on June 12, 2019, 07:02:08 AM
That John McGinn was not given any game time when Scotland were being run ragged seems to suggest all is not sweetness and light between him and the ex Tesco bags manager.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: cdbullyweefan on June 14, 2019, 07:35:37 PM
Elmo scored the only goal in a friendly against Tanzania.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: D.boy on June 17, 2019, 07:51:23 PM
I saw this last night during the charity football match for Unicef. Outrageous bit of skill by Roberto Carlos.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Jon Crofts on June 18, 2019, 10:00:41 AM
Platini arrested over Qatar 2022 World Cup decision.

What a surprise.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Des Little on June 19, 2019, 10:40:06 PM
Platini arrested over Qatar 2022 World Cup decision.

What a surprise.

We all know he wonít get done for it, though. Business as usual.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Behind Bluenose Lines on June 22, 2019, 11:34:44 AM
Apparently it's 33 years ago today since Maradona's Hand of God goal against England.

I feel very old...
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: dave shelley on June 22, 2019, 12:55:32 PM
Apparently it's 33 years ago today since Maradona's Hand of God goal against England.

I feel very old...

...and still very angry!
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: cdbullyweefan on June 22, 2019, 01:07:27 PM
Looked like he headed it to me. Can't see what all the fuss is about.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Toronto Villa on June 22, 2019, 04:05:18 PM
What fucked me off more is why Shilton didn't catch the ball and taken Maradona out in the process. Because even a leaping Maradona would have been no more than 6ft off the ground. That said the winning goal was outrageous even if some of the England defending was borderline comical.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Damo70 on June 22, 2019, 04:10:39 PM
Apparently it's 33 years ago today since Maradona's Hand of God goal against England.

I feel very old...


We would have had a good chance in a semi against Belgium and a final against a German team that was in transition and not as good as they were in 1982 and 1990.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: olaftab on June 22, 2019, 05:19:17 PM
What fucked me off more is why Shilton didn't catch the ball and taken Maradona out in the process. Because even a leaping Maradona would have been no more than 6ft off the ground. That said the winning goal was outrageous even if some of the England defending was borderline comical.
I blamed Shilton then and have never changed my mind despite Argentinian's skulduggery. Shilton was too slow.  I also blame Shilton for being out of position for Brehme's free kick in 1990. So that's two world cups he dropped :(
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Lastfootstamper on June 22, 2019, 05:23:35 PM
What fucked me off the most was S**** H**** attempting an overhead backpass. The c***.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: dcdavecollett on June 23, 2019, 08:09:56 PM
Olaftab, couldn't agree more on Shilton's errors, esp. his inability to deal with a 'slow' deflection from Brehme's free-kick.

My Derby-supporting mate told me how muscle-bound and slow-moving Shilton had become -the 1990 World Cup proved him right!
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: cdbullyweefan on June 23, 2019, 09:58:31 PM
I still remember him making a brilliant save to deny Cascarino a debut goal. That would only have been a few months before the 1990 World Cup. I often wonder how different Cascarino's Villa career might have been if that had gone in.

Probably not that different, thinking about it.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: JUAN PABLO on June 24, 2019, 04:09:36 PM
Thats poor from Kodja 

through on goal
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: garyshawsknee on June 24, 2019, 04:31:30 PM
Yeah, Kodjia having a bit of a mare so far, completely missed his kick with another chance.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: garyshawsknee on June 24, 2019, 04:52:17 PM
Yeah, Kodjia having a bit of a mare so far, completely missed his kick with another chance.

He finally scores.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: cdbullyweefan on June 24, 2019, 05:51:36 PM
Scored the winner. He can have a poor game if he keeps doing that!
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: garyshawsknee on June 24, 2019, 05:55:27 PM
He was shocking in the first half, looked a different player after he scored. Hope he kicks on in the tournament now, will only benefit us.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: ktvillan on June 28, 2019, 11:01:45 AM
What fucked me off more is why Shilton didn't catch the ball and taken Maradona out in the process. Because even a leaping Maradona would have been no more than 6ft off the ground. That said the winning goal was outrageous even if some of the England defending was borderline comical.
I blamed Shilton then and have never changed my mind despite Argentinian's skulduggery. Shilton was too slow.  I also blame Shilton for being out of position for Brehme's free kick in 1990. So that's two world cups he dropped :(

Shilton was overrated and always had clangers in him, albeit mixed in with world class saves occasionally.  Poland to keep us out of the 1974 world cup was another monumental cock up.  He was strongly at fault for the hand of God goal and the Germany free kick, where he looked like a legless elephant trying to get back on his line.  Joe Hart was similarly overrated by all and sundry a few years ago while I was telling anyone who would listen he was a liability.  Look at him now.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: garyshawsknee on June 28, 2019, 11:09:17 AM
Shilton should have taken Maradona out, but the weasel Hodge should take his share of the blame for that back pass. My brother blamed him at the time, I defended him because he played for us at the time.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: luke:lamf on June 29, 2019, 09:16:38 PM
Tuned in to watch my beloved Squirrels (Benin) take on the might of the third-best team called Guinea (Bissau). Jesus wept, I thought the crowds for the Women's World Cup were poor. The stadium the fans are rattling around in can't be more than 10% full.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Damo70 on June 29, 2019, 09:36:53 PM
The Guinea-Bissau goalkeeper is the blackest black guy I have ever seen. To paraphrase Spinal Tap, 'How much more black could he be? The answer is none, none more black'. I am having a nightmare betting on the African Nations Cup. I have been having correct scores bets and there have been far fewer goals than I predicted.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: cdbullyweefan on June 30, 2019, 11:55:27 AM
I see Eurosport have gone for the BBC tactic of choosing to show tedious games between teams that are certain to qualify rather than vital matches between teams aiming to get the best third place spots.

The twats.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Damo70 on June 30, 2019, 12:04:35 PM
I see Eurosport have gone for the BBC tactic of choosing to show tedious games between teams that are certain to qualify rather than vital matches between teams aiming to get the best third place spots.

The twats.


I can't remember the last time I watched Eurosport regularly prior to this tournament. Considering they have two channels their scheduling is shambolic. So far they have started showing live games as late as thirty minutes in to accommodate the end of a cycling or motorcycling race.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: cdbullyweefan on June 30, 2019, 08:48:37 PM
Elmo scores again. Three goals in his last four starts now.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: BC54 VFC on July 07, 2019, 11:04:53 PM
Parabens Brasil!
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: dave shelley on August 25, 2019, 12:58:54 PM
Not wanting to start another thread for this but, hearing Shaun Wright-Phillips has retired from football, can anyone explain how the hell he got thirty-six caps for England?  Utter rubbish.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 25, 2019, 02:08:54 PM
I remember him scoring some far from rubbish goals against us. He was very decent when on form, in other games you wouldn't really notice him. Like quite a few other wingers. Once he picked up a few injuries and his pace started to go he wasn't able to reinvent himself to keep his career going like others like Young have.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Pete3206 on August 29, 2019, 02:08:13 PM
Barkley and Lingard in the England squad? Jeez!
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Bren'd on August 29, 2019, 03:23:51 PM
Lingard normally puts in half decent performances for England so I can see why he's included.  Barkley has been pretty rubbish since he's been at Chelsea. 
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: luke:lamf on August 29, 2019, 04:11:22 PM
He got 36! Jesus, I feel like I must have just come our of a coma. If you were to ask me 5 minutes ago how many he'd got I would have confidently replied "zero".
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: ChicagoLion on August 29, 2019, 09:51:04 PM
Lingard normally puts in half decent performances for England so I can see why he's included.  Barkley has been pretty rubbish since he's been at Chelsea.
Yes half decent or anonymous and Berkeley is another of those players with potential and has never really done it, file with Walcott and many ,ore.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Mossie Hennebry on September 05, 2019, 07:52:25 PM
Present and former players on show in Lansdowne Rd. tonight: Hourihane, Wheelo, Robinson and Enda Stevens all starting, Hogan on the bench and Robbie Keane on the management team.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Villa in Denmark on September 06, 2019, 09:09:23 PM
Netherlands beating Germany 2-1 in Hamburg having been 1-0 down.
Good game. Must say Koeman gas got the Dutch playing well.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: cdbullyweefan on September 06, 2019, 09:10:07 PM
Bad scoreline for Northern Ireland, that.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Villa in Denmark on September 06, 2019, 09:13:29 PM
Penalty Germany for the most ridiculous handball against De Licht. Ball falls out of the sky from behind him and hits his not outstretched arm.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Villa in Denmark on September 06, 2019, 09:14:05 PM
2-2
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Villa in Denmark on September 06, 2019, 09:26:10 PM
More bad news for NI. 3-2 Netherlands.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Villa in Denmark on September 06, 2019, 09:33:17 PM
Even worse news for NI.
4-2 Netherlands in stoppage time.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Villa in Denmark on September 09, 2019, 08:52:18 PM
Even worse news for NI. Losing 1-0 to Germany. Fantastic strike mind.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: cdbullyweefan on September 09, 2019, 10:08:10 PM
It was two-nil. Harsh on Norn Iron based on what I saw. Their performances should shame Scotland.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: UK Redsox on October 03, 2019, 02:24:44 PM
England squad
For Euro 2020 qualifiers v the Czech Republic & Bulgaria

Goalkeepers: Tom Heaton, Jordan Pickford, Nick Pope.

Defenders: Trent Alexander-Arnold, Ben Chilwell, Joe Gomez, Michael Keane, Harry Maguire, Tyrone Mings, Danny Rose, Fikayo Tomori, Kieran Trippier.

Midfielders: Ross Barkley, Fabian Delph, Jordan Henderson, James Maddison, Mason Mount, Declan Rice, Harry Winks.

Forwards: Tammy Abraham, Harry Kane, Marcus Rashford, Jadon Sancho, Raheem Sterling, Callum Wilson.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Villa Lew on October 10, 2019, 07:08:40 PM
SJM in Scotland starting line up
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Jon Crofts on October 10, 2019, 09:38:20 PM
Scotland are absolute mince. 4 losses in a row, first time in 15 years.

Stop sniggering at the back.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 10, 2019, 10:06:51 PM
Scottish people like mince. The correct phrase is "absolute pish".

As you were.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 11, 2019, 12:42:21 AM
In other news, women were allowed to attend an Iran game, only 3,500 of them but it's a start.

And, down the road, Iraq were able to play their first real home game in eight years.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: ChicagoLion on October 11, 2019, 09:40:00 PM
South Gate has lost the plot.
Kane is a blunt instrument.
That midfield is shit.
England have reverted to type.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: KRS on October 11, 2019, 11:35:59 PM
Anyone see the penalty given to France against Iceland?! Iím not sure if VAR is being used in the qualifiers but that is an absolute joke of a decision to award that.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Jon Crofts on October 12, 2019, 08:46:15 AM
Shame, he seems to have fallen for the same old crap previous England managers have in that reputation is everything.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 12, 2019, 10:54:04 AM
South Gate has lost the plot.
Kane is a blunt instrument.
That midfield is shit.
England have reverted to type.

They've lost one qualifying game in ten years. They made the Semi-Finals at the last World Cup AND at in the Nations League. They'll still qualify for the Euros, it will be just be a few days later than it might have been. France lost a game in qualifying on their way to winning the last World Cup and Portugal managed to lose at home to Albania before winning the last Euros.

The end is nigh, sure enough.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Chris Smith on October 12, 2019, 11:07:37 AM
Shame, he seems to have fallen for the same old crap previous England managers have in that reputation is everything.

Not so sure thatís the reason. For instance he played Sancho and Mount last night based on their performances this season but they didnít contribute. It was just a poor performance all round.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Ads on October 12, 2019, 11:43:04 AM
Rice and Henderson is utterly pedestrian. Henderson is too slow in transition and Rice, as seen at Villa Park, thinks hes playing rugby as that ball wont go forwards.

Couple that with Mount being clueless positionally and seemed to choke the space for Sterling, without offering anything creative, then we had big issues going forwards.

Add that with how utterly woefully out of form the back four were. What on earth Keane does to ne picked I have no idea, let alone when Everton are having a mare. McGuire is one paced and Rose...yikes.

No press, no movement, no attempt to stretch them.

Dire selection, dire system and dire implementation. Southgate couldn't have got it more wrong.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: ChicagoLion on October 12, 2019, 12:32:47 PM
Shame, he seems to have fallen for the same old crap previous England managers have in that reputation is everything.
Yeh, agree.
Itís like the tabloid press picking the team again.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: PaulWinch again on October 12, 2019, 12:48:39 PM
I think itís one bad game and we shouldnít overreact. Overall heís done a very good job and heís shown reputation isnít everything.

That said I find it slightly odd that players like Tyrone not getting any minutes. I get that he wants caps to mean something, but you kind of run the risk of players just not feeling truly part of the set up.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 12, 2019, 01:41:53 PM
I think Mings might have got a game if England had been defending a lead. It's rare to see central defenders bought on otherwise, barring injuries or red cards.

Maybe he'll get a go against Bulgaria.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 12, 2019, 01:43:53 PM
And well done to Andorra on their first ever European Championship Qualifying win.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Damo70 on October 12, 2019, 06:57:26 PM
Georgia 0 Republic Of Ireland 0. Shit game and I lost money on it.

Denmark 1 Switzerland 0. Shit game and I lost money on it.

Norway v Spain - Report to follow. (I suspect my report will just say "see above")
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Mossie Hennebry on October 12, 2019, 07:11:15 PM
Shame, he seems to have fallen for the same old crap previous England managers have in that reputation is everything.

Not so sure thatís the reason. For instance he played Sancho and Mount last night based on their performances this season but they didnít contribute. It was just a poor performance all round.

Grealish is the missing ingredient for England - They need his guile.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Damo70 on October 12, 2019, 07:21:07 PM
I genuinely think Grealish could do a job at international level. One player in the England side who gets a lot of stick who I would defend is Henderson. He does the Des Bremner/Kevin Richardson/Stilian Petrov donkey work/water carrier job that players often don't get enough credit for. If Liverpool ever wanted to throw him Villa's way I would welcome him with open arms.

Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Villa in Denmark on October 12, 2019, 07:27:52 PM
Georgia 0 Republic Of Ireland 0. Shit game and I lost money on it.

Denmark 1 Switzerland 0. Shit game and I lost money on it.

Norway v Spain - Report to follow. (I suspect my report will just say "see above")
What did you get on for the Denmark game Damo? Just been informed by the commentary team that that's 22 qualifying games at home without defeat.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Damo70 on October 12, 2019, 07:43:12 PM
Georgia 0 Republic Of Ireland 0. Shit game and I lost money on it.

Denmark 1 Switzerland 0. Shit game and I lost money on it.

Norway v Spain - Report to follow. (I suspect my report will just say "see above")
What did you get on for the Denmark game Damo? Just been informed by the commentary team that that's 22 qualifying games at home without defeat.


I had Denmark to win 3-1 at odds of 18/1.

If I heard correctly in the build up to Norway v Spain apparently Norway haven't lost at home for three years.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Damo70 on October 12, 2019, 09:39:17 PM
Norway 1 Spain 1 and Norway keep up their impressive unbeaten home record with a 94th minute penalty equaliser.

I had Spain to win 2-1.

It was a slightly better game than the ones earlier today but hardly a classic.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: ChicagoLion on October 12, 2019, 10:49:16 PM
I genuinely think Grealish could do a job at international level. One player in the England side who gets a lot of stick who I would defend is Henderson. He does the Des Bremner/Kevin Richardson/Stilian Petrov donkey work/water carrier job that players often don't get enough credit for. If Liverpool ever wanted to throw him Villa's way I would welcome him with open arms.
He was also very good at passing to the opposition last night.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: vilan461 on October 12, 2019, 11:04:29 PM
Shame, he seems to have fallen for the same old crap previous England managers have in that reputation is everything.

Not so sure thatís the reason. For instance he played Sancho and Mount last night based on their performances this season but they didnít contribute. It was just a poor performance all round.

Grealish is the missing ingredient for England - They need his guile.
Fully agree for the 3 Lions Jack would be like the artful dodger -expert at  unlocking defences!-although i dont think Southgate rates him that much and thats a shame.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: robleflaneur on October 12, 2019, 11:40:13 PM
Southgate has made some brave decisions but his logical thinking seems to go astray.Kyle Walker has some fine attributes but  poor positional sense and lack of awareness of danger made him a serious liability in a back 3 in the WC.
Now after a disorganised display in midfield and defence,instead of looking at his defenders and the make up of his midfield,he is publicly touting a return to a back 3. Wing backs are ideal if the team is weak in wide areas but England have some excellent young pacy wide attackers,so what benefit will these wing backs bring ?
In fact it will create the problem of a continuing reliance on athletic midfielders in a central role rather than relying on abilty.
As I have mentioned before,Southgate prizes possession and passing ability in central defence but not in the more important area of midfield.Illogical.

Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Ad@m on October 13, 2019, 09:07:34 PM
I genuinely think Grealish could do a job at international level. One player in the England side who gets a lot of stick who I would defend is Henderson. He does the Des Bremner/Kevin Richardson/Stilian Petrov donkey work/water carrier job that players often don't get enough credit for. If Liverpool ever wanted to throw him Villa's way I would welcome him with open arms.

Jesus! I'm glad you're not in charge of player recruitment!

In 1,000 years time philosophers will still be trying to work out how Jordan Henderson become captain of Liverpool.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Risso on October 13, 2019, 10:20:36 PM
I genuinely think Grealish could do a job at international level. One player in the England side who gets a lot of stick who I would defend is Henderson. He does the Des Bremner/Kevin Richardson/Stilian Petrov donkey work/water carrier job that players often don't get enough credit for. If Liverpool ever wanted to throw him Villa's way I would welcome him with open arms.

Jesus! I'm glad you're not in charge of player recruitment!

In 1,000 years time philosophers will still be trying to work out how Jordan Henderson become captain of Liverpool.

He played nearly all the matches for the team who pushed Man City all the way for the League title last year, and who won the Champions League; and who are running away with the league this year.  You don't get to do that for a manager like Klopp if you're not a very good footballer.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Meanwood Villa on October 13, 2019, 10:33:35 PM
It's only really dawning on me now that as well as giving minnows like Scotland a chance to qualify, the playoffs basically give the higher ranked teams a safety net if they make a balls up of qualifying.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: ChicagoLion on October 14, 2019, 01:04:40 AM
Henderson fulfills a role for Liverpool which is about energy, covering gaps and moving the ball on to other players quickly.
His limitations are shown up when he plays for England.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Mossie Hennebry on October 14, 2019, 08:33:26 AM
Henderson fulfills a role for Liverpool which is about energy, covering gaps and moving the ball on to other players quickly.
His limitations are shown up when he plays for England.
And the second he is no longer a Liverpool player, he will cease to be an England player. This scenario is repeated through the decades no matter who the manager is. Is this proof that the England squad is picked by committee?
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 29, 2019, 07:00:26 PM
Surprise, surprise. UEFA have shit the bed and given Bulgaria a poxy two game stadium ban, one of which is suspended. So their "punishment" is not being able to attend a game that none of them would have attended anyway, a meaningless end of group game against Czech Republic when they can't qualify anyway. The match could be vital for the Czechs, and their fans will be banned through no fault of their own. Meanwhile, Bulgaria, and their neo-Nazi followers, will still be allowed to enter and attend the playoffs and, potentially, pollute the finals.

UEFA don't care about racism.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: PaulWinch again on October 29, 2019, 08:57:15 PM
Surprise, surprise. UEFA have shit the bed and given Bulgaria a poxy two game stadium ban, one of which is suspended. So their "punishment" is not being able to attend a game that none of them would have attended anyway, a meaningless end of group game against Czech Republic when they can't qualify anyway. The match could be vital for the Czechs, and their fans will be banned through no fault of their own. Meanwhile, Bulgaria, and their neo-Nazi followers, will still be allowed to enter and attend the playoffs and, potentially, pollute the finals.

UEFA don't care about racism.

Yep itís an absolute joke.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: ChicagoLion on November 02, 2019, 01:55:25 AM
Surprise, surprise. UEFA have shit the bed and given Bulgaria a poxy two game stadium ban, one of which is suspended. So their "punishment" is not being able to attend a game that none of them would have attended anyway, a meaningless end of group game against Czech Republic when they can't qualify anyway. The match could be vital for the Czechs, and their fans will be banned through no fault of their own. Meanwhile, Bulgaria, and their neo-Nazi followers, will still be allowed to enter and attend the playoffs and, potentially, pollute the finals.

UEFA don't care about racism.

Yep itís an absolute joke.
They should ban them from The next International competition as a start. If they do it again ban them from the next 2,
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: PeterWithe on November 02, 2019, 11:31:53 AM
Henderson fulfills a role for Liverpool which is about energy, covering gaps and moving the ball on to other players quickly.

Agreed, individual midfielders only have the ball for a small proportion of the game so itís important that a team has players who are very good out of possession, Henderson, Rice et all are fine players in that mould. Likewise, closer to home, Glen Whelan.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: olaftab on November 14, 2019, 06:29:32 PM
My England all time XI:
https://team-picker.files.bbci.co.uk/England_alltime_xi-18b9ea20424ac8c6f56b2aeafe3551f5.html


(https://i.ibb.co/XpqKL2k/0-AAFDF46-525-D-414-A-A226-EA00-FE941395.jpg) (https://ibb.co/XpqKL2k)
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: cdbullyweefan on November 14, 2019, 06:34:43 PM
Too many forwards. And who's going to get the ball for them when Robson gets injured?
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Pete3206 on November 14, 2019, 07:06:01 PM
Rooney wouldn't be in my all time squad, let alone first 11.

The ultimate tournament flop.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: manic-road on November 14, 2019, 07:19:15 PM
Not impressed with the England team picked tonight, Sancho is out of form and Ox is straight back in after injury. Disappointed Madison hasn't got a start and Mings dropped for fucking Stones.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Damo70 on November 14, 2019, 07:24:35 PM
Rooney wouldn't be in my all time squad, let alone first 11.

The ultimate tournament flop.

Apart from his first tournament.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Damo70 on November 14, 2019, 07:32:29 PM
My England all time XI:
https://team-picker.files.bbci.co.uk/England_alltime_xi-18b9ea20424ac8c6f56b2aeafe3551f5.html


(https://i.ibb.co/XpqKL2k/0-AAFDF46-525-D-414-A-A226-EA00-FE941395.jpg) (https://ibb.co/XpqKL2k)


My all time England XI without picking players who I am too young to remember would be -

Peter Shilton
Gary Neville
Ashley Cole
Des Walker
Terry Butcher
Gazza
Platt
Bryan Robson
Gary Lineker
Alan Shearer
Wayne Rooney
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: cdbullyweefan on November 15, 2019, 12:05:37 AM
You've gone striker mad, too. No way those three would work together. I suppose you could play Rooney in a midfield role but, if you're using him there, England have had far better midfielders so I don't really see the point. Also Gazza was massively overrated.

Anyway, team should be something like:

Banks

Armfield
Moore
Wright
Cole

Matthews
Robson
Gerrard
Charlton

Shearer
Greaves

Scotland:

Goram

Jardine
Hansen
MacKay
McGrain

Johnstone
Billy Bremner
Souness
Morton

Dalglish
Law

Scotland lack big names at full back but have better choice of ball-winning midfielders than England do. I struggled to think of a better English one than Paul Ince...

Prediction: England 1 Scotland 4.

Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Risso on November 15, 2019, 09:14:11 AM
Not sure Gerrard ever did enough in an England shirt to warrant inclusion.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: dave shelley on November 15, 2019, 09:20:09 AM
I'd be looking to find a spot for Jim Baxter and John Grieg somewhere in that Scotland team CD.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Dr Butler on November 15, 2019, 09:21:22 AM
and what about John McGinn ?  :)


UTV
The Doc
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: cdbullyweefan on November 15, 2019, 10:10:13 AM
Not sure Gerrard ever did enough in an England shirt to warrant inclusion.

He played well in the five-one, which you could argue was England's most impressive result. I was struggling with central midfielders, generally, to be honest. Picked him as he played left a few times so would give balance with Matthews on the other side.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: cdbullyweefan on November 15, 2019, 10:11:36 AM
I'd be looking to find a spot for Jim Baxter and John Grieg somewhere in that Scotland team CD.

Not a bad shout, especially Baxter.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: olaftab on November 15, 2019, 02:07:41 PM
CD no Archie Gemmill and Des Bremner in Scotland team?
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Meanwood Villa on November 15, 2019, 06:41:49 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50100530

I found this interesting.

They were going to do one for Scotland but didn't think anyone had a spare 24 hours
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Meanwood Villa on November 15, 2019, 06:43:29 PM
Congrats to Finland on qualifying for their first major tournament.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Damo70 on November 15, 2019, 06:47:36 PM
Congrats to Finland on qualifying for their first major tournament.


I backed them to win 4-0. It looks like it will finish 3-0.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Damo70 on November 15, 2019, 06:49:56 PM
And some Finnish twat misses a sitter in the last minute of time added on.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: cdbullyweefan on November 15, 2019, 07:39:41 PM
CD no Archie Gemmill and Des Bremner in Scotland team?

Gemmill doesn't get in because he played for them... hang on, so did Des 😢
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: cdbullyweefan on November 15, 2019, 07:43:09 PM
Congrats to Finland on qualifying for their first major tournament.

I make it now that it's only Lapland, Anglesey and the Vatican that haven't qualified for a tournament more recently than Scotland. 😢

Talking of Scotland, I think they are pretty much guaranteed to be playing Bulgaria in the playoff semis, now.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: wittonwarrior on November 17, 2019, 10:16:32 AM
By the dumbing down international football even Gib and San Marino will reach a major tournament before Scotland's lion begins to growl. 
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Damo70 on November 17, 2019, 02:43:47 PM
Congrats to Finland on qualifying for their first major tournament.

I make it now that it's only Lapland, Anglesey and the Vatican that haven't qualified for a tournament more recently than Scotland. 😢

Talking of Scotland, I think they are pretty much guaranteed to be playing Bulgaria in the playoff semis, now.


I have heard that the Vatican are big fans of playing with the youngsters.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: AV82EC on November 17, 2019, 05:35:02 PM
Congrats to Finland on qualifying for their first major tournament.

I make it now that it's only Lapland, Anglesey and the Vatican that haven't qualified for a tournament more recently than Scotland. 😢

Talking of Scotland, I think they are pretty much guaranteed to be playing Bulgaria in the playoff semis, now.


I have heard that the Vatican are big fans of playing with the youngsters.

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Meanwood Villa on November 19, 2019, 10:18:30 PM
Euro 2020 draw looks a tad complicated with three potential hosts in the playoffs.

Slightly concerned we could end up with France and Portugal in our group.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: AV82EC on November 21, 2019, 01:10:01 PM
Euro 2020 draw looks a tad complicated with three potential hosts in the playoffs.

Slightly concerned we could end up with France and Portugal in our group.

Iím loving the massively overcomplicated way of deciding the play off waves and what seems the slightly arbitrary way it was devised. I thought Americans had the most ridiculous ways of deciding who gets to play offs but UEFA really stepping up to the plate here.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Meanwood Villa on November 30, 2019, 05:43:01 PM
Croatia in England's group.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Meanwood Villa on November 30, 2019, 05:51:10 PM
 And Czech Republic
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: luke:lamf on November 30, 2019, 05:58:22 PM
And the winner of Scotland's play-off group, Serbia.
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Villa Lew on November 30, 2019, 06:16:34 PM
Germany, France and Portugal drawn in Group F, group of death!
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Comrade Blitz on November 30, 2019, 08:48:18 PM
Germany, France and Portugal drawn in Group F, group of death!

Is Cristiano Ronaldo crying already?
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: Flamingo Lane on December 01, 2019, 09:47:40 AM
It's a shame this tournament has become so overblown.  Much better when it was 16 teams in four groups, when pretty much every group game was likely to mean something.  So now, even the 'group of death' is not really a group of death at all, as four teams who finish third in their group will get to go through to the last 16 in any case.  Having six groups of four just to eliminate eight teams is a nonsense. 
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 01, 2019, 02:37:40 PM
England 5-1 Scotland
Title: Re: International Football
Post by: UK Redsox on December 09, 2019, 11:19:11 AM
Russia banned from 2020 Olympics and 2022 FIFA World Cup

However, Euro 2020 is apparently not affected because UEFA is not a 'major event organisation'

Of course, the penalties will get reduced upon appeal

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/50710598