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Title: Loanwatch 2017/18
Post by: UK Redsox on August 25, 2017, 02:36:08 PM
https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2017/08/24/toner-moves-to-stevenage

Quote from: Pravda
Kevin Toner has joined Stevenage Borough on a season-long loan.

Toner moves to Broadhall Way to link up with Darren Sarll’s League Two side.

The 21-year-old, who joined our academy in 2012, has enjoyed previous loan spells with Kidderminster Harriers, Walsall and Bradford City.

He made his senior claret and blue debut at Southampton in April 2016 before his first start a week later at Watford.

Good luck this season, Kevin.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2017/18
Post by: oswald funkletrumpet on August 25, 2017, 03:27:24 PM
Thats him finished then
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2017/18
Post by: UK Redsox on August 31, 2017, 09:06:44 PM
Gardner to Barnsley

https://twitter.com/avfcofficial/status/903346677909778432
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2017/18
Post by: brian green on August 31, 2017, 09:12:07 PM
Good luck to him.  He has not been the luckiest of young players.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2017/18
Post by: West Derby Villan on August 31, 2017, 10:18:16 PM
Yeah good luck GG - just couldn't make the grade after all the terrible injuries, imho, but a gent and a proper Villan
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2017/18
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on September 01, 2017, 06:53:20 AM
Aye good luck to him. Maybe more playtime can help him develop or give him confidence. I am skeptical but he is an easy man to like, I certainly wish him well.

 
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2017/18
Post by: UK Redsox on September 01, 2017, 07:45:02 AM
Matija Sarkic to Wigan on loan until January

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41116538
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2017/18
Post by: UK Redsox on September 01, 2017, 07:47:39 AM
With Amavi having gone on loan to Marseille a few weeks ago and Goalkeeperini already at Atalanta, I think that's everybody at the moment

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40886108

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38611433


EDIT:- Forgot about Gil at Depo and Tish at MK
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2017/18
Post by: brian green on September 01, 2017, 07:56:08 AM
GG is secure in his status as a Villa legend.  Best Villa song ever.

*Gary Gardner - Your brother's a twat*
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2017/18
Post by: eamonn on October 01, 2017, 04:26:09 PM
Anyone keeping tabs on how our leased-out lot are doing? Gardner wasn't involved in Barnsley's win at Millwall yesterday, injured maybe? I saw Veretout was on the scoresheet for Fiorentina recently but that aside, no idea. Ditto Tshibola, Gil and whoever else.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2017/18
Post by: Dave on October 01, 2017, 05:22:17 PM
Veretout is no longer one of the leased out lot - he's Fiorentina's player now.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2017/18
Post by: aj2k77 on October 01, 2017, 06:00:25 PM
Gardner has played 67 minutes for Barnsley, not injured as far as I can see.
Gil, last I heard was he had a bad hamstring injury and hasn't featured and last season they made him play with injections rather than have an Operation.
Tshibola is a regular for MK but the local media ran a piece on him a few days ago highlighting that he hasn't stood out and that he hasn't made much impact.
Amavi  has just broke in to the team and played the last few games.
Gollini can't get in the Atalanta side.
Toner has played two full games but been on the bench for the last few.
Sarkic is on the bench for Wigan.
McCormack is swigging castlemaine xxxx.

All in all, pretty rubbish.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2017/18
Post by: eamonn on October 01, 2017, 10:14:36 PM
Veretout is no longer one of the leased out lot - he's Fiorentina's player now.

Good point!
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2017/18
Post by: eamonn on October 01, 2017, 10:15:50 PM
Gardner has played 67 minutes for Barnsley, not injured as far as I can see.
Gil, last I heard was he had a bad hamstring injury and hasn't featured and last season they made him play with injections rather than have an Operation.
Tshibola is a regular for MK but the local media ran a piece on him a few days ago highlighting that he hasn't stood out and that he hasn't made much impact.
Amavi  has just broke in to the team and played the last few games.
Gollini can't get in the Atalanta side.
Toner has played two full games but been on the bench for the last few.
Sarkic is on the bench for Wigan.
McCormack is swigging castlemaine xxxx.

All in all, pretty rubbish.

Cheers for that - not exactly inspiring for us or them.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2017/18
Post by: SoccerHQ on October 01, 2017, 11:15:08 PM
Gollini was on the bench tonight for Atalanta against Juve. Is he their Europa league keeper?

Haven't seen Gil at all for Depor.

Amavi played tonight for Marseille. They won 4-2 at Nice. He was booked.

Toner is shite.

McCormack has finished his fifth can of castlemaine xxxxx and is now sobering up on Fosters (even though no one in Aussie land has every tasted a drop of Fosters).
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 01, 2017, 11:31:12 PM
McCormack is having a snack as he immerses himself into Australian culture, he's just thrown a whale on the barbie.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2017/18
Post by: Ads on October 02, 2017, 06:45:21 AM
He'll be on the VB and and elated at the realisation that Aussies love pies like Wiganers do. He'll be confused at this exercise business he keeps seeing them all do as he walks round in a pastry infused stupor.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2017/18
Post by: Exeter 77 on October 07, 2017, 05:25:49 PM
Tshibola was sent off after five minutes for MK Dons and they ended up being hammered 4-1 at home by Bradford.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2017/18
Post by: eamonn on October 23, 2017, 12:53:58 AM
Amavi took part in an eventful game tonight:
http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41715721
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2017/18
Post by: passitsideways on October 23, 2017, 07:34:23 AM
Amavi took part in an eventful game tonight:
http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41715721

Not really loanwatch anymore though, isn't it?
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2017/18
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on October 23, 2017, 07:53:16 AM
I dont understand a loan with an obligation to purchase. Anyone want to explain it to me and why it was used here?
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2017/18
Post by: Gareth on October 23, 2017, 12:57:59 PM
Would guess with Amavi it gave Marseille a few weeks to look at him & make sure that what Sevilla used as an excuse was not a problem - if there had been any doubt he wouldn’t have played that 3rd game to trigger the clause?
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2017/18
Post by: Mossie Hennebry on December 20, 2017, 06:18:53 PM
https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2017/08/24/toner-moves-to-stevenage

Quote from: Pravda
Kevin Toner has joined Stevenage Borough on a season-long loan.

Toner moves to Broadhall Way to link up with Darren Sarll’s League Two side.

The 21-year-old, who joined our academy in 2012, has enjoyed previous loan spells with Kidderminster Harriers, Walsall and Bradford City.

He made his senior claret and blue debut at Southampton in April 2016 before his first start a week later at Watford.

Good luck this season, Kevin.

Toner has made a permanent move to St. Pats in Dublin.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2017/18
Post by: manic-road on December 20, 2017, 06:35:51 PM
https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2017/08/24/toner-moves-to-stevenage

Quote from: Pravda
Kevin Toner has joined Stevenage Borough on a season-long loan.

Toner moves to Broadhall Way to link up with Darren Sarll’s League Two side.

The 21-year-old, who joined our academy in 2012, has enjoyed previous loan spells with Kidderminster Harriers, Walsall and Bradford City.

He made his senior claret and blue debut at Southampton in April 2016 before his first start a week later at Watford.

Good luck this season, Kevin.

Toner has made a permanent move to St. Pats in Dublin.

Yes I saw the Meaning Evil headline "Defender leaves Villa" and hoped it was Micah Richards.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2017/18
Post by: b23 on January 19, 2018, 09:04:36 PM
Crewe sign Newcastle's Dan Barlaser and Aston Villa's Harry McKirdy on loan

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42748866
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2017/18
Post by: cdbearsfan on January 22, 2018, 10:22:13 AM
McKirdy came on as sub and scored.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2017/18
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on January 22, 2018, 10:41:26 AM
Anyone know how Gollini is getting on? Any chance we can get some cash for him?
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2017/18
Post by: cdbearsfan on January 22, 2018, 10:53:03 AM
Seemed to do okay last year, and was named on the bench for an Italy friendly. Has lost his place in the Atalanta team this year though so not too encouraging.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2017/18
Post by: UK Redsox on January 31, 2018, 09:29:34 PM
Suliman to Grimsby
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on February 01, 2018, 10:10:38 PM
Suliman to Grimsby
If he wants to make it with us this is his chance to prove that. Good luck to him.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2017/18
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on May 08, 2018, 02:38:27 PM
Anyone been keeping tabs on this. We have Gil, Gollini still on loan I think. Am I forgetting anyone?
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2017/18
Post by: Risso on May 08, 2018, 02:55:43 PM
Gil has just been relegated with Deportivo.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2017/18
Post by: Matt Collins on May 08, 2018, 09:44:02 PM
We were presumably hoping successful loans would trigger a fee

Gollini has barely played
Gil has barely played and relegation means no obligation to buy, apparently
Elphick has been injured
Tshibola has done ok for a team with no money
Gardner has scored once I think

Apart from that, they’ve all been driving up their value
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2017/18
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on May 08, 2018, 10:42:47 PM
We were presumably hoping successful loans would trigger a fee

Gollini has barely played
Gil has barely played and relegation means no obligation to buy, apparently
Elphick has been injured
Tshibola has done ok for a team with no money
Gardner has scored once I think

Apart from that, they’ve all been driving up their value

Meanwhile half the shite we did get rid of have started looking decent once elsewhere!
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2017/18
Post by: eamonn on May 08, 2018, 11:18:24 PM
Worra waste of wime...still, at the incoming loans were great but we're not stuck with them.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2017/18
Post by: mr underhill on May 09, 2018, 11:40:41 AM
I saw Tshibola play against Hibs whilst on holiday in Scotland recently - farcical stuff and he looked total shite.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2017/18
Post by: OCD on May 09, 2018, 12:03:35 PM
RDM going back to his old club and paying £5m for a kid that has never really shown the potential to warrant such a price tag seems highly suspicious in hindsight. I wonder if RDM and Tshibola had the same agent or something.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2017/18
Post by: cheltenhamlion on May 09, 2018, 05:49:48 PM
RDM going back to his old club and paying £5m for a kid that has never really shown the potential to warrant such a price tag seems highly suspicious in hindsight. I wonder if RDM and Tshibola had the same agent or something.

It was Clarke that was determined we should sign Tsihbola.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2017/18
Post by: eamonn on May 09, 2018, 08:51:08 PM
Not for any kickbacks of course.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2017/18
Post by: Steve67 on May 09, 2018, 09:11:37 PM
Gil would be useful back up to Grealish.  That said, I can't see any of them coming back to Villa and staying.  Giving them away on free transfers and placing a sell on fee on their heads would probably be our best bet.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2017/18
Post by: OCD on May 09, 2018, 09:49:20 PM
RDM going back to his old club and paying £5m for a kid that has never really shown the potential to warrant such a price tag seems highly suspicious in hindsight. I wonder if RDM and Tshibola had the same agent or something.

It was Clarke that was determined we should sign Tsihbola.

As RDM's assistant though.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 09, 2018, 10:36:23 PM
You said RDM went back to his old club, he didn't as he's never ad anything to do with Reading. Clarke did.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2017/18
Post by: cdbearsfan on May 09, 2018, 11:17:00 PM
It's a pretty bizarre assertion that something dodgy must have gone on just because a manager signed a player from a former club. When was the last time we had a manager who was able to sign players and didn't sign or attempt to sign at least one player he had coached befire?
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 09, 2018, 11:32:50 PM
It's a pretty bizarre assertion that something dodgy must have gone on just because a manager signed a player from a former club. When was the last time we had a manager who was able to sign players and didn't sign or attempt to sign at least one player he had coached befire?

Pretty sure that would actually be RDM.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2017/18
Post by: cdbearsfan on May 10, 2018, 12:04:48 AM
We were definitely linked with Drogba when he arrived. Not sure if it was genuine interest or just paper talk. Anyway, I though the argument was that RDM must be crooked because he tried to sign Gollini from a former club.  But he hadn't actually managed him before? Confused now.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 10, 2018, 12:28:24 AM
It's Tshibola he was on about, but it was Clarke who knew him at Reading. Gollini was signed from Hellas Verona.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2017/18
Post by: SoccerHQ on May 10, 2018, 11:33:43 AM
Tish was highly rated at Reading.

We were mugged off big time with the fee, 5m for someone who'd made just over 20 senior games.

We probably won't get 500k for him if Kilmarnock want him full time.

Giving Gil a 4 and a half year deal is also hurting us a fair bit now.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2017/18
Post by: eamonn on May 10, 2018, 08:13:38 PM
I can't imagine Carles is on much, the wages at teams below the top five or six in Spain are Ch'ship standard at best.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2017/18
Post by: OCD on May 13, 2018, 10:41:53 PM
You said RDM went back to his old club, he didn't as he's never ad anything to do with Reading. Clarke did.

Yes, sorry - getting Reading and MK Dons mixed up.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2017/18
Post by: CJ on May 14, 2018, 09:34:32 AM
What happened to Ritchie De Laet - we could do with him given our current problems at full back
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2017/18
Post by: West Derby Villan on May 14, 2018, 10:04:33 AM
What happened to Ritchie De Laet - we could do with him given our current problems at full back

Loaned out.....doh!
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2017/18
Post by: paul_e on May 14, 2018, 10:43:54 AM
What happened to Ritchie De Laet - we could do with him given our current problems at full back

On loan to Antwerp.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2017/18
Post by: Dave on May 14, 2018, 11:56:54 AM
Lucky blighter. Antwerp is great.
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2017/18
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on May 14, 2018, 04:54:35 PM
Lucky blighter. Antwerp is great.

Is he playing any god there?
Title: Re: Loanwatch 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 14, 2018, 05:05:50 PM
Lucky blighter. Antwerp is great.

Is he playing any god there?

Even now it just wouldn't be fair to have someone like RDL playing against McGrath.
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