Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine

Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: UK Redsox on June 19, 2017, 02:13:59 PM

Title: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: UK Redsox on June 19, 2017, 02:13:59 PM
Champions League qualifiers draw

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40318400

Champions League first qualifying round

Vikingur (Faroe Isles) v Trepca '89 (Kosovo)

Hibernians (Malta) v Tallinn (Estonia)

Alashkert (Armenia) v Santa Coloma (Andorra)

The New Saints v Europa (Gibraltar)

Linfield v SP La Fiorita (San Marino)

Champions League second qualifying round

Group 1

Apoel (Cyprus) v Dudelange (Luxembourg)

Zalgiris (Lithuania) v Ludogorets Razgrad (Bulgaria)

Qarabag (Azerbaijan) v Samtredia (Georgia)

Partizan (Serbia) v Budućnost Podgorica (Montenegro)

Hibernians (Malta) or FCI Tallinn (Estonia) v Salzburg (Austria)

Group 2

Sheriff (Moldova) v Kukes (Albania)

Astana (Kazakhstan) v Spartaks Jurmala (Latvia)

BATE Borisov (Belarus) v Alashkert (Armenia) or FC Santa Coloma (Andorra)

Zilina (Slovakia) v Copenhagen (Denamrk)

Hapoel Beer-Sheva (Israel) v Budapest Honvéd (Hungary)

Rijeka (Croatia) v The New Saints or Europa (Gibraltar)

Group 3

Malmo (Sweden) v Vardar (Macedonia)

Zrinjski (Bosnia and Herzegovina) v Maribor (Slovenia)

Dundalk (Ireland) v Rosenborg (Norway)

FH Hafnarfjördur (Iceland) v Víkingur (Faroe Islands) or Trepça '89 (Kosovo)

Linfield or SP La Fiorita (San Marino) v Celtic

IFK Mariehamn (Finland) v Legia Warszawa (Poland)
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Meanwood Villa on June 19, 2017, 06:10:54 PM
Linfield v Celtic could be interesting.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on June 19, 2017, 07:11:36 PM
As I mentioned on the other "Other" thread, the Belfast leg is scheduled for July 12th, too.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 19, 2017, 07:28:41 PM
As I mentioned on the other "Other" thread, the Belfast leg is scheduled for July 12th, too.

Apparently the clubs have already agreed they won't play on that date if Linfield get through.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Villa in Denmark on June 19, 2017, 07:57:03 PM
Come on Zilina.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on June 19, 2017, 08:05:04 PM
Looking at the clubs listed above in the CL draw I have no doubt Bacuna could play in that League!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 19, 2017, 11:23:53 PM
FC Podkast (Lithuania) v Dynamo Traktor (Moldova)

Etc etc
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Dave on June 19, 2017, 11:34:34 PM
Dynamo Traktor

You laugh, but that's pretty much the literal translation of BATE Borisov, who are in the group stages every other year and normally do something odd like beat Bayern, or draw 3-3 with Barcelona.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Bren'd on June 20, 2017, 10:35:48 AM
I thought the season had finished but it appears there is an international tournament on in Russia called the confederations cup. Flicking through the TV yesterday I seen an unrecognizable German side versus an unrecognizable Australian side not that one ever really is recognizable but I digress.  What alarmed me about the coverage was the half time punditry, not what they were saying but the backdrop used by ITV, seriously, WTF? 
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on June 20, 2017, 09:40:33 PM
FH Hafnarfjördur.
Possibly the most unpronounceable team we have ever played.

Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on June 20, 2017, 09:53:38 PM
"Eff Aitch".

Seems pretty easy to me.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on June 22, 2017, 08:58:24 PM
"Eff Aitch".

Seems pretty easy to me.


Seeing the scoreline we clearly told them to 'F Off'. Although I must admit I have no recollection whatsoever of that game.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on June 22, 2017, 09:02:45 PM
Watching and listening to the Confederations Cup various commentators and pundits seem to disagree on whether to to call Chile 'chilly' or 'Chill Lay'. I always though it was the former as opposed to the latter. Ooh, we could have a poll.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on June 22, 2017, 09:20:45 PM
"Eff Aitch".

Seems pretty easy to me.


Seeing the scoreline we clearly told them to 'F Off'. Although I must admit I have no recollection whatsoever of that game.

I remember there was a big fuss over whether we would pick Barry, as doing so would render him ineligible to play for Liverpool in Europe. We picked him, he scored, he stayed.

Watching the highlights, typically brilliant goal by Young which I had forgotten all about.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on June 22, 2017, 09:22:28 PM
Watching and listening to the Confederations Cup various commentators and pundits seem to disagree on whether to to call Chile 'chilly' or 'Chill Lay'. I always though it was the former as opposed to the latter. Ooh, we could have a poll.

It's blatantly "Chilly", like the Jimi Hendrix song "Voodoo Chilly".
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: SashasGrandad on June 22, 2017, 09:56:57 PM
FH Hafnarfjördur.
Possibly the most unpronounceable team we have ever played.



Probably the northern most ground we've played at.  Not many places you can go whale watching in the morning and watch the Villa in the afternoon.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on June 22, 2017, 11:59:21 PM
It's six miles south of Reykjavik, so Valur would still be our most Northern opponents.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: SashasGrandad on June 23, 2017, 08:07:21 AM
It's six miles south of Reykjavik, so Valur would still be our most Northern opponents.

But match was played in Reykjavik - we went past their ground on the way - it was too small to host an international match.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on June 23, 2017, 08:25:05 AM
Ah okay. Looks like both games were at the same stadium so equal furthest Northern game!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: SashasGrandad on June 23, 2017, 05:10:27 PM
Ah okay. Looks like both games were at the same stadium so equal furthest Northern game!

I've been trying and failing to think of the southern most stadium the Villa have played in!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on June 23, 2017, 08:38:55 PM
Ah okay. Looks like both games were at the same stadium so equal furthest Northern game!

I've been trying and failing to think of the southern most stadium the Villa have played in!

Assume you mean in a competitive game? Have we played in Istanbul, if so I would guess there.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on June 23, 2017, 09:16:10 PM
Tokyo is further South, so the World Club Cup wins. Also our most Easterly competitive game.

I'm assuming we have played friendlies in Australia and... maybe New Zealand?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on June 24, 2017, 04:04:02 AM
For friendlies

Houston 2014? The Compass stadium thingy.

Further South (in the Northern hemisphere) than Turkey or Japan I think?

Nice Bennet header.

https://www.houstondynamo.com/post/2014/07/27/match-recap-houston-dynamo-0-aston-villa-fc-1
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 24, 2017, 10:10:06 PM
Quote
Thousands of Huddersfield fans will be able to watch the club's Premier League home games for just over £5 each thanks to a pledge made by the club's chairman seven years ago.

Dean Hoyle said in 2010 that fans who had held season cards during his time as chairman would pay £100 for the card if the club reached the top flight.

"Over 4,000 Town fans will receive mail from the club," a club statement said.

"This week, that pledge has been rolled out."

Huddersfield reached the top flight for the first time since 1972 by beating Reading on penalties in the Championship play-off final at Wembley last month.

Fans who qualified have the option to have a partial refund on their season card - which only cost £199 if bought by 6 April, a voucher worth £110 to spend in the club's shops, or donate their £99 refund to the Town Foundation charity, with Hoyle adding an extra £26 donation to top it up.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: JD on June 25, 2017, 02:35:17 AM
Quote
Thousands of Huddersfield fans will be able to watch the club's Premier League home games for just over £5 each thanks to a pledge made by the club's chairman seven years ago.

Dean Hoyle said in 2010 that fans who had held season cards during his time as chairman would pay £100 for the card if the club reached the top flight.

"Over 4,000 Town fans will receive mail from the club," a club statement said.

"This week, that pledge has been rolled out."

Huddersfield reached the top flight for the first time since 1972 by beating Reading on penalties in the Championship play-off final at Wembley last month.

Fans who qualified have the option to have a partial refund on their season card - which only cost £199 if bought by 6 April, a voucher worth £110 to spend in the club's shops, or donate their £99 refund to the Town Foundation charity, with Hoyle adding an extra £26 donation to top it up.

That's class.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Chris Jameson on June 26, 2017, 04:55:48 PM
They are a class act Huddersfield, my brother worked with them and their chairman in the early days of Sporting Memories and the support they gave him and the charity was phenomenal. I was so pleased for them when they got promotion.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on June 26, 2017, 09:53:22 PM
Ah okay. Looks like both games were at the same stadium so equal furthest Northern game!

I've been trying and failing to think of the southern most stadium the Villa have played in!

End of season tour to Tanzania in 1973 ?

Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Duncan Shaw on June 28, 2017, 08:03:11 AM
Nothing on here about the England U21s......will we ever beat the Germans again?  See Grealish got lots of game time...
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on June 28, 2017, 10:01:44 AM
.....will we ever beat the Germans again?

I'm happy for us to stay at 2-0 up.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Pat McMahon on June 28, 2017, 02:16:48 PM
.....will we ever beat the Germans again?

I'm happy for us to stay at 2-0 up.

eh? We were 1-0 down then 2-1 up.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on June 28, 2017, 03:40:39 PM
He's on about military-based shenanigans, not football matches.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on June 28, 2017, 10:58:28 PM
Enjoyed the Chile Portugal game, pretty decent and glad Chile won.

Linfield scored an 89th minute winner at home against a San Marinese team.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: UK Redsox on June 29, 2017, 03:40:45 AM
Extra time of FC Cincinnati v Chicago Fire in the US Open Cup was superb. Great saves and FCC had a goal disallowed for a debatable offside.

Now going to pens
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: UK Redsox on June 29, 2017, 03:48:43 AM
FCC knock out Chicago. That's the second MLS team that they've beaten in this cup run
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Pat McMahon on June 29, 2017, 01:48:14 PM
He's on about military-based shenanigans, not football matches.

Ah right, cheers.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on June 29, 2017, 01:57:47 PM
Enjoyed the Chile Portugal game, pretty decent and glad Chile won.

Linfield scored an 89th minute winner at home against a San Marinese team.


I thought it was a decent game considering the lack of goals. I'm sure Ronaldo sold his team down the river by wanting the glory of scoring the winning penalty. Surely the best should go first.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on June 29, 2017, 02:27:43 PM
The best should go last out of the five. More pressure at the end. There have been scientific studies into this.

Regardless of where Ronaldo went, you're not likely to win if three blokes miss.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AV5nobs on June 29, 2017, 02:37:33 PM
Those studies worked well for Baggio and Shevchenko didn't they.

Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on June 29, 2017, 02:38:53 PM
The best should go last out of the five. More pressure at the end. There have been scientific studies into this.

Regardless of where Ronaldo went, you're not likely to win if three blokes miss.

It is hard to disagree with your last sentence but I still say put your best taker first, second best second etc.  Although there is a school of thought that the third pen is the crucial one so your best should take that.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AV5nobs on June 29, 2017, 02:43:37 PM
There is no logic, study or method in a shootout.

Pick 5 people who have the balls - every footballer can take a penalty in training and score 4/5 - it's pressure whether its 1st or last.

Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 29, 2017, 02:54:52 PM
I've said before, some players prefer the pressure of later pens. If it was me i'd want the last one. Not for the glory but i'd back myself to score the pressure one rather than the 1st. When I played league pool and darts back in the day I always played better when the match was on the line.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: CorkVilla on June 29, 2017, 09:23:32 PM
Gary Shaw just put Shamrock Rovers one nil up in Iceland.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Dave on June 30, 2017, 11:41:40 PM
Germany win the u-21 European Championships.

Which is fairly impressive, given most of their actual u-21 squad are this summer's senior squad, who are playing in the final of the Confederations Cup on Sunday, as they've decided to give the actual senior squad the summer off.

Pretty decent strength in depth there.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Chinchilla Bathhouse on June 30, 2017, 11:48:34 PM
Blimey, that's ominous. Just shows that England are light years behind.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 30, 2017, 11:49:09 PM
Bloody show offs.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Tony Erdington on July 01, 2017, 10:09:06 AM
Theres a reason Football is more popular than egg chasing.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Nev on July 01, 2017, 12:27:39 PM
Theres a reason Football is more popular than egg chasing.

We are the many, they are the few.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ronshirt on July 01, 2017, 05:55:53 PM
Esh Winning 5 (3) v (0) 1 Birtley Town

The Northern League can be split into three types: the big boys who pay good money, one of which will probably win the FA Vase; the rest of the first division and the two or three decent second division sides; and the rest of Div 2, most of which are not much better than good sunday league sides. Esh are in the third camp. Birtley, relegated from Div 2 a year ago, wish they were.

Shaven headed men wandered up and down the touch-line demanding 'shapes' and 'voices'.

There were no pies.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 01, 2017, 11:26:59 PM
The reply from Matlock Town Twitter account made me laugh.

https://twitter.com/alfretontownfc/status/881148805567139841
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Dave Cooper please on July 02, 2017, 03:24:45 PM
Long Eaton 3-4 Rothwell Corinthians

Cracking game for a friendly.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on July 02, 2017, 08:32:23 PM
I've said it before and I will say it again. When did Chile stop being pronounced 'chilly' and become 'chill lay'? Or is it just a Clive Tyldesley thing? Also, every time I hear the name Vargas it makes me think of Antonio Fargas AKA 'Huggy Bear' off of Starsky and Hutch.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on July 02, 2017, 08:34:00 PM
Also my bet on Germany to win 3-1 isn't looking too clever at the moment.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 02, 2017, 08:35:21 PM
It's pronounced how it always was. Tyldesley is just a twat.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on July 02, 2017, 08:41:51 PM
If 'Vidal' gets subbed relatively early does he turn to the bench and ask 'why Sassoon'?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Proposition Joe on July 02, 2017, 08:44:00 PM
To turn a phrase on its head, if Germany didn't have good luck, they wouldn't have any luck at all.

How do Chile keep fucking up those chances?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: luke:lamf on July 02, 2017, 09:33:03 PM
Presumably "Chillay" is the Hispanophone way of pronouncing it and Tyldesley fancies himself as some sort of cultural beacon. Expect Paree, Moskva et al soon. To be followed with "that night in Barthelona".
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 02, 2017, 10:16:40 PM
It's still "Chile", as opposed to "Chilé", in Spanish... so I don't think "Chillay" is the correct pronunciation. Even if it was, he should then be referring to their opponents as "Deutschland", for consistency.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Ads on July 03, 2017, 02:04:18 PM
Compare the game time to young English players at the top level and those in Germany. They play significantly more football as individuals and it shows.

The vast amount of money and pressure within the game, at all levels of the Premier League, but especially at the top engenders a short termist approach. Chelsea espouse this more than anybody.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Bren'd on July 03, 2017, 04:36:21 PM
It's still "Chile", as opposed to "Chilé", in Spanish... so I don't think "Chillay" is the correct pronunciation. Even if it was, he should then be referring to their opponents as "Deutschland", for consistency.

Didn't here or see his commentary, if he's pronouncing it "Chillay" he must have picked it up off someone over exaggerating a Brummie accent. He is one proper pillock is Tyldesley.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 04, 2017, 08:46:40 PM
Quite impressive that The Rangers got the worst ever result by a British team in their first ever European tie.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on July 04, 2017, 09:14:01 PM
Quite impressive that The Rangers got the worst ever result by a British team in their first ever European tie.

Their manager's CV is interesting. He has played for five senior teams, none of which I have heard of and his longest spell at any of them was two years. Rangers is his 12th managerial job (he is 46) and the longest spell he has been in charge of a club is two years. The high points in his career appear to be as an assistant coach at Panathinaikos and for Saudi Arabia.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 04, 2017, 09:23:55 PM
Surely he has to go? McLeish out of work at the minute?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Sexual Ealing on July 04, 2017, 09:24:57 PM
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha @ Rangers. That is all.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Brazilian Villain on July 04, 2017, 09:36:33 PM
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha @ Rangers. That is all.

Hilarious stuff from the Zombies. That definitely warranted more than 10 in a row hahas. ;)
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Sexual Ealing on July 04, 2017, 09:39:42 PM
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha @ Rangers. That is all.

Hilarious stuff from the Zombies. That definitely warranted more than 10 in a row hahas. ;)


I'm up to my knees in Fenian tears.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Pat McMahon on July 04, 2017, 09:54:02 PM
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha @ Rangers. That is all.

Hilarious stuff from the Zombies. That definitely warranted more than 10 in a row hahas. ;)


I'm up to my knees in Fenian tears.

Talking of which, I heard that Linfield are playing Celtic in the next round. That should be a festival of hail fellow well met and bonhomie. Not sure if they can ask UEFA to play the Linfield leg on 12 July for good measure.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Sexual Ealing on July 04, 2017, 09:55:38 PM
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha @ Rangers. That is all.

Hilarious stuff from the Zombies. That definitely warranted more than 10 in a row hahas. ;)


I'm up to my knees in Fenian tears.

Talking of which, I heard that Linfield are playing Celtic in the next round. That should be a festival of hail fellow well met and bonhomie. Not sure if they can ask UEFA to play the Linfield leg on 12 July for good measure.

I think Celtic have agreed not to take any tickets for the away fixture.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AV5nobs on July 04, 2017, 09:56:52 PM
Linfield must be rubbing their hands together!'
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Nev on July 04, 2017, 11:42:53 PM
Rangers.

My second favourite comedy team in blue.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 04, 2017, 11:44:58 PM
Rangers.

My second favourite comedy team in blue.

Third after the Scottish national side.

*Waves at CD*
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 04, 2017, 11:50:37 PM
Even Scotland haven't lost to a team from Luxembourg.

I don't think (I'll just check)...
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AV5nobs on July 05, 2017, 10:05:18 PM
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha @ Rangers. That is all.

Hilarious stuff from the Zombies. That definitely warranted more than 10 in a row hahas. ;)


I'm up to my knees in Fenian tears.

And this is not sectarian?

One rule for one hey, and is Celtic not predominantly an Irish club?

Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 05, 2017, 10:06:41 PM
Knock it off everybody. We all know what happens when the Old Infirm get mentioned.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 06, 2017, 03:57:30 PM
Chelmsley Town 0-12 Bromsgrove Sporting. Probably for the best that we didn't play our star striker!

Hopefully my first game of the season on Saturday as Bromsgrove are playing Romulus, who play in Sutton Coldfield.  It will probably be 0-0!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on July 06, 2017, 06:48:00 PM
Chelmsley Town 0-12 Bromsgrove Sporting. Probably for the best that we didn't play our star striker!

Hopefully my first game of the season on Saturday as Bromsgrove are playing Romulus, who play in Sutton Coldfield.  It will probably be 0-0!


I used to go past Chelmsley's ground on the way to work sometimes, although it's actually in Marston Green (and Marston Green play near the airport).
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 06, 2017, 06:53:28 PM
They ground share at Coleshill now. Think they had to move to be able to be promoted and play in the same division as Bromsgrove last season. So that's why I didn't go last night as the Coleshill ground is a mare to get to using public transport.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: peter w on July 07, 2017, 08:28:17 AM
The best should go last out of the five. More pressure at the end. There have been scientific studies into this.

Regardless of where Ronaldo went, you're not likely to win if three blokes miss.

The studies said the other way round; that the best player should go first rather than last because you run the risk of your best player not getting to take a penalty at number 5. Plus having the best first gives you the chance of scoring and putting more pressure on the opposition.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on July 07, 2017, 08:28:46 AM
If you pass by a strange man in the street today wandering around swearing and muttering about St Johnstone it is me. They let me down for a 17/1 ninefold last night.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 07, 2017, 08:46:12 AM
The best should go last out of the five. More pressure at the end. There have been scientific studies into this.

Regardless of where Ronaldo went, you're not likely to win if three blokes miss.

The studies said the other way round; that the best player should go first rather than last because you run the risk of your best player not getting to take a penalty at number 5. Plus having the best first gives you the chance of scoring and putting more pressure on the opposition.

If you're too shit to get to the last penalty, you're going to lose anyway.

Put your best player last. Pressure builds as the shootout unfolds. Save your best for last of the five, when the shootout is at its most tense.

Pick a team that's shit at penalties as an example... England.

In their penalty shootouts they have selected the following players to go first:

Lineker, Shearer, Shearer, Shearer, Beckham, Lampard.

In each case, they went with their strongest penalty taker first (Beckham was off injured when Lampard went first). In all but one case, the first penalty taker scored, but in all but one case, England lost.

Far better to save your best penalty taker for when the pressure is really on.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: john e on July 07, 2017, 08:48:09 AM
Newport Pagnell v MK Dons tonight, my lad is one of the mascots

dont know whether i'll be able to go as we had a Lads v Dads game last night and i ended up getting something called Plantar Fasciitis in my foot (heel) its killing me,
 should know better at my age, although i did net a couple of goals against those pesky 9 year olds

Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AV5nobs on July 07, 2017, 09:18:37 AM
Baggio and Shevchenko both missed last penalties in quite decent finals?

It's about bollocks, end of.

Any professional footballer and I'm including goalkeepers would score 4/5 past there club number 1 in training....it's about who wants to, and yes your best / regular penalty taker will be in there but there is no science in which order.

Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: in exile on July 07, 2017, 10:50:09 AM
Newport Pagnell v MK Dons tonight, my lad is one of the mascots

dont know whether i'll be able to go as we had a Lads v Dads game last night and i ended up getting something called Plantar Fasciitis in my foot (heel) its killing me,
 should know better at my age, although i did net a couple of goals against those pesky 9 year olds

I have injections in both my heels for that.
They work for me but don't for everyone so be warned if you are offered them
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: john e on July 07, 2017, 01:54:57 PM
Newport Pagnell v MK Dons tonight, my lad is one of the mascots

dont know whether i'll be able to go as we had a Lads v Dads game last night and i ended up getting something called Plantar Fasciitis in my foot (heel) its killing me,
 should know better at my age, although i did net a couple of goals against those pesky 9 year olds

I have injections in both my heels for that.
They work for me but don't for everyone so be warned if you are offered them

Been doing some research and I'm hoping it's just a one off for me as I ticked all the boxes for it to hapen ie age, weight, old trainers, doing something you haven't done for years,
 so hopefully it will heal up quickly because it's very painful at the moment i literally can't walk

as with everything I'm finding it more common than than you would ever think,
Good luck with your treatments
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: in exile on July 07, 2017, 02:57:44 PM
Newport Pagnell v MK Dons tonight, my lad is one of the mascots

dont know whether i'll be able to go as we had a Lads v Dads game last night and i ended up getting something called Plantar Fasciitis in my foot (heel) its killing me,
 should know better at my age, although i did net a couple of goals against those pesky 9 year olds

I have injections in both my heels for that.
They work for me but don't for everyone so be warned if you are offered them

Been doing some research and I'm hoping it's just a one off for me as I ticked all the boxes for it to hapen ie age, weight, old trainers, doing something you haven't done for years,
 so hopefully it will heal up quickly because it's very painful at the moment i literally can't walk

as with everything I'm finding it more common than than you would ever think,
Good luck with your treatments

Thanks John, you too
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 07, 2017, 03:19:14 PM
FA Cup draw has been made. In the extra Preliminary Round of the F.A Cup Bromsgrove Sporting will play Rocester at Home on Saturday 5th August
If Bromsgrove progress to the next round it will be Coleshill Town or Wellington at Home.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 08, 2017, 11:53:42 PM
Romulus 0-3 Bromsgrove Sporting. Sutton's ground was ok but pretty run down if i'm honest. I don't think i've seen another ground with enough weeds you could lose David Bellamy in them. As for the game, comfortable win against a side a division above, although I have no idea if it was their best 11 or not. Some of our new signings look pretty tidy.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 09, 2017, 12:35:28 AM
Stuck up bugger. Sutton's ground is pretty nice imo.

Was at Alvechurch's ground today, for a function rather than a game. Nice little ground with a well-stocked bar and lovely scenery.

Tempted to do the next available non-league day there.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 09, 2017, 12:38:46 AM
Stuck up bugger. Sutton's ground is pretty nice imo.

Was at Alvechurch's ground today, for a function rather than a game. Nice little ground with a well-stocked bar and lovely scenery.

Tempted to do the next available non-league day there.

Talking about Sutton Coldfield Town's ground? I like it, I love going to grounds at this level, but weeds everywhere on the terrace and concrete. I think I even saw a triffid.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 09, 2017, 12:42:42 AM
Yeah the Sutton Coldfield/Romulus/Villa Ladies ground. You massive snob "oh look at me the grass is too long and they didn't have zombie films in the club house".
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 09, 2017, 12:49:44 AM
No zombies anywhere as the triffids ate them all! As I said not at all being a snob, just think it looks bad when there's many weeds, some are bigger Gareth Barry's arse!. Can't be doing the concrete any good either.

I love it at this level, some of the grounds are great just because they are so quirky. Heather St John's is one of my favourites as they have a weird little clock 'stand'.

(https://userimages.clubwebsite.co.uk/js58080912_594546be6f5bf.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Sexual Ealing on July 09, 2017, 01:10:47 AM


Was at Alvechurch's ground today, for a function rather than a game. Nice little ground with a well-stocked bar and lovely scenery.


I was down the road from you playing cricket at my nephew's school fete in Barnt Green. We could have typed at each other if we'd known.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on July 09, 2017, 09:39:43 AM


Was at Alvechurch's ground today, for a function rather than a game. Nice little ground with a well-stocked bar and lovely scenery.


I was down the road from you playing cricket at my nephew's school fete in Barnt Green. We could have typed at each other if we'd known.

We went past a sign for Barnt Green. I was excited as we've seen Barnt Green Spartak play before (although they were called GSA Sports at the time).
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ACVilla on July 09, 2017, 08:05:28 PM
Romulus 0-3 Bromsgrove Sporting. Sutton's ground was ok but pretty run down if i'm honest. I don't think i've seen another ground with enough weeds you could lose David Bellamy in them. As for the game, comfortable win against a side a division above, although I have no idea if it was their best 11 or not. Some of our new signings look pretty tidy.
Did you know the "large" seated stand was previously situated at Maine Road of Manchester City fame?

I'd agree though that it could do with a bit of a spring clean. With the amount of money the 3G (newly relaid) generates you would have thought a bit more care would be taken on the outskirts.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Sexual Ealing on July 09, 2017, 08:35:46 PM


Was at Alvechurch's ground today, for a function rather than a game. Nice little ground with a well-stocked bar and lovely scenery.


I was down the road from you playing cricket at my nephew's school fete in Barnt Green. We could have typed at each other if we'd known.

We went past a sign for Barnt Green. I was excited as we've seen Barnt Green Spartak play before (although they were called GSA Sports at the time).

It's a weird place. The houses all look like they've been dropped in from Hampstead but the people walking through the middle of the village look like they were bused in from Telford, all England shirts and tatts. Ironically, that's precisely the journey my sister took. Sans football shirt and tatts. And I don't think she went in a bus. Apart from that, exactly the same.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 09, 2017, 08:40:51 PM
We didn't go by bus, we went by taxi. The driver had his window open and a bird managed to shit on him.

You know you've had an exciting journey when seeing a sign saying "Barnt Green" isn't even the most thrilling bit.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 09, 2017, 08:43:42 PM
I liked the seat stand in the corner. Worst for weeds etc was the terrace at the other end to the club house and the walk from there down the side towards that corner stand. With the money from the 3G and is it 4 sides that play there, you'd think someone would tidy it up. I know Romulus, Sutton and Villa ladies play there, can't remember if the sign had another team on it as well.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Sexual Ealing on July 09, 2017, 08:44:04 PM
I got bowled first ball my my brother-in-Law. I wish I'd shat on him.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Dave Cooper please on July 10, 2017, 01:15:31 PM
Stuck up bugger. Sutton's ground is pretty nice imo.

Was at Alvechurch's ground today, for a function rather than a game. Nice little ground with a well-stocked bar and lovely scenery.

Tempted to do the next available non-league day there.

There's a cracking pub near the station as well, The Weighbridge it's called or something like that.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 10, 2017, 01:31:49 PM
Big beer garden? If it is, I think I've been before. There's a few nice pubs in Alvechurch, to be fair.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: b23 on July 10, 2017, 10:05:32 PM
https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2017/07/09/curacao-0-jamaica-2-2017-concacaf-gold-cup-match-recap

Bacuna played.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Woofles The Wonder Dog on July 10, 2017, 10:30:25 PM
Easah Suliman's been playing in the England U-19 team that's cruised into the Euro semi-finals. That there Sessignon of Fulham doesn't half look good. Be amazed if here's there after the summer.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: papa lazarou on July 10, 2017, 10:52:22 PM
Easah Suliman's been playing in the England U-19 team that's cruised into the Euro semi-finals. That there Sessignon of Fulham doesn't half look good. Be amazed if here's there after the summer.

My mate's in Tblisi for the tournament - his nephew Aaron Ramsdale is the U-19 goalkeeper. It's fooking hot but the beer is reasonably priced.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 12, 2017, 11:58:40 PM
I know some of you can't wait to watch this! A prize for anyone who spot me*





*Prize may not actually exist
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: four fornicholl on July 13, 2017, 07:15:38 PM
Star Sixes on sky for anyone interested. James, Merson, Heskey and Hendrie all in the England squad.Oh, and Pires for France.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: nuninho on July 13, 2017, 08:16:24 PM
Sort of related, anyone remember the Midlands Masters a few years ago at the NIA?  A Villa side won that, I think beating Wolves in the final on penalties.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 13, 2017, 08:20:31 PM
I think Wolves won it the year I went. It was a decent enough way to pass the time during the close season, straight to the Prince of Wales afterwards. There were a couple of Albion players in there. I forget who, though.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on July 14, 2017, 07:40:27 AM
I think Wolves won it the year I went. It was a decent enough way to pass the time during the close season, straight to the Prince of Wales afterwards. There were a couple of Albion players in there. I forget who, though.


Albion player called Flynn I think
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AV5nobs on July 14, 2017, 07:46:33 AM
Good luck to Linfield tonight, if a team from Gibraltar can.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 14, 2017, 09:35:51 AM
Surely Linfield should be invincible with all that money we are given Loyalist lunatics in order to keep Theresa May in a job?

They should be signing Messi and Ronaldo.

Probably Catholic, mind...
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on July 14, 2017, 10:17:26 AM
Sort of related, anyone remember the Midlands Masters a few years ago at the NIA?  A Villa side won that, I think beating Wolves in the final on penalties.


One of my favorite trivia facts is that Villa won the Super Cup against Barcelona at Villa Park on the same night Small Heath won the 'Soccer Sixes' at the NEC. Has any other city had two teams who won a trophy on the same night in the same city?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AV5nobs on July 14, 2017, 01:28:20 PM
Aren't politics somewhere else?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 14, 2017, 09:28:12 PM
The referee actually booked Leigh Griffiths for having a glass bottle thrown at him in that Wee Rangers vs Celtic game!

Why are Northern Irish people so angry all the time? Dreadful place.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: peter w on July 14, 2017, 09:37:41 PM
Like the time the ref booked Mark Bosnich when he was having batteries thrown at him in Madrid.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 14, 2017, 11:44:43 PM
The referee actually booked Leigh Griffiths for having a glass bottle thrown at him in that Wee Rangers vs Celtic game!

Why are Northern Irish people so angry all the time? Dreadful place.

Have you ever been there or met any of them?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 15, 2017, 12:09:30 AM
No.

I've never been to Islamic State on holiday, but I'm pretty sure they are religion-obsessed bigoted wankers, too.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 15, 2017, 12:15:31 AM
No.

I've never been to Islamic State on holiday, but I'm pretty sure they are religion-obsessed bigoted wankers, too.

10/10 for hyperbolistic cliche. I'll let any member of this forum or any other permanently angry Villa supporter who lives in or hails from that "dreadful place" mark you on your accuracy.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 15, 2017, 12:18:37 AM
Permanently angry? I'm criticising them for their ridiculous anger.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 15, 2017, 12:19:43 AM
Permanently angry? I'm criticising them for their ridiculous anger.

"Why are Northern Irish people so angry all the time?"


I think it would be a good idea to end this debate right here.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 15, 2017, 12:22:34 AM
Well okay then, not all Northern Irish people. Just like not all Millwall fans are massive twats.

But a significant enough proportion are.

Any country that has nightly protests about a fucking flag, and has people getting up extra early so they can shout abuse at children on their way to school is definitely fucked up.

The Northern Ireland experiment has failed. If Britain is incapable of calming them down then we should let Ireland have a go.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 15, 2017, 12:25:31 AM
Well okay then, not all Northern Irish people. Just like not all Millwall fans are massive twats.

But a significant enough proportion are.

Any country that has nightly protests about a fucking flag, and has people getting up extra early so they can shout abuse at children on their way to school is definitely fucked up.

The Northern Ireland experiment has failed. If Britain is incapable of calming them down then we should let Ireland have a go.

We have politics thread for politics. As I said before, this is not the place.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 15, 2017, 12:28:09 AM
Linfield vs Celtic is a football match, and therefore belongs on this thread.

It is also difficult to discuss said game without mentioning the political context. Why was the game even being played on the Friday rather than the 12th July like other Champions League games in the first place?

But, I'm happy to leave it. The match is over. I don't like Celtic but compared to those knuckle-draggers they are the nicest team going. I might mention the tie again if anything interesting happens in the Second Leg.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AV5nobs on July 15, 2017, 09:59:20 AM
Best team won, Griffiths deserves a booking every time that forehead walks onto the pitch.

Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: LeeB on July 15, 2017, 01:20:57 PM
Linfield vs Celtic is a football match, and therefore belongs on this thread.

It is also difficult to discuss said game without mentioning the political context. Why was the game even being played on the Friday rather than the 12th July like other Champions League games in the first place?

But, I'm happy to leave it. The match is over. I don't like Celtic but compared to those knuckle-draggers they are the nicest team going. I might mention the tie again if anything interesting happens in the Second Leg.

I seem to recall Linfield being considered the third party of an unofficial alliance of right wing, nationalistic thug teams that play in blue across the UK, the other two being Chelsea and the football club formerly known as Rangers.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AV5nobs on July 15, 2017, 01:49:46 PM
Still talking politics on a football thread?

Trying too hard.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Dante Lavelli on July 15, 2017, 02:39:11 PM
I was not aware of Linfield's past and the blue connection.  Thank you for posting that.  They certainly did not cover themselves in glory yesterday from what I have read.   
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: LeeB on July 15, 2017, 03:55:06 PM
Still talking politics on a football thread?

Trying too hard.

What the actual fuck are you going on about, "trying too hard"? I'm recalling a memory regarding a topic of discussion.

And in any case, do you not think switched date of the fixture and the bottle throwing may have been polically influenced, for example?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on July 15, 2017, 04:06:33 PM
Come on Lee don't you know when it comes to football we should completely ignore associated stuff  like racism and bigotry.  Cos it's politics ain't it? ::)
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on July 15, 2017, 04:08:39 PM
Like the time the ref booked Mark Bosnich when he was having batteries thrown at him in Madrid.
But the batteries were fully charged so ....
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Chris Jameson on July 15, 2017, 04:37:06 PM
Still talking politics on a football thread?

Trying too hard.

It's bugging me, who were you in a previous life?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: peter w on July 15, 2017, 06:00:37 PM
You can tell us. Coopers fessed up to being silhill, or the other way round, and it was fine. Mods are cool and shit as you may know. Tell you what me and Chris are the ones that care so just let either of us know and if you forget we'll just remember to remind you.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on July 15, 2017, 07:00:36 PM
So bit of good news. Suliman scored for England U19s and they went on to win the final 2-1 against Portugal.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AV5nobs on July 15, 2017, 07:02:32 PM
Still talking politics on a football thread?

Trying too hard.

What the actual fuck are you going on about, "trying too hard"? I'm recalling a memory regarding a topic of discussion.

And in any case, do you not think switched date of the fixture and the bottle throwing may have been polically influenced, for example?

Polically?

Villa v Sandwell got switched and a lot more than one bottle got thrown, did the major of Brum suddenly get brought into it?

Leave politics away from other football.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AV5nobs on July 15, 2017, 07:04:16 PM
You can tell us. Coopers fessed up to being silhill, or the other way round, and it was fine. Mods are cool and shit as you may know. Tell you what me and Chris are the ones that care so just let either of us know and if you forget we'll just remember to remind you.

Why don't you PM the mods, prepare to be hugely disappointed.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: four fornicholl on July 15, 2017, 07:53:14 PM
Still talking politics on a football thread?

Trying too hard.

It's bugging me, who were you in a previous life?
Was it the naked poet, can't mind his name though?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Dave on July 15, 2017, 08:04:23 PM
You can tell us. Coopers fessed up to being silhill, or the other way round, and it was fine. Mods are cool and shit as you may know. Tell you what me and Chris are the ones that care so just let either of us know and if you forget we'll just remember to remind you.

Why don't you PM the mods, prepare to be hugely disappointed.

He is indeed a brand new, never-before-opened box of sigh-inducing treats.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: peter w on July 15, 2017, 08:38:36 PM
So bit of good news. Suliman scored for England U19s and they went on to win the final 2-1 against Portugal.

He was terrible overall though.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Chris Jameson on July 15, 2017, 08:41:08 PM
You can tell us. Coopers fessed up to being silhill, or the other way round, and it was fine. Mods are cool and shit as you may know. Tell you what me and Chris are the ones that care so just let either of us know and if you forget we'll just remember to remind you.

Why don't you PM the mods, prepare to be hugely disappointed.

He is indeed a brand new, never-before-opened box of sigh-inducing treats.

Oh god, they are reproducing.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: peter w on July 15, 2017, 08:42:59 PM
You can tell us. Coopers fessed up to being silhill, or the other way round, and it was fine. Mods are cool and shit as you may know. Tell you what me and Chris are the ones that care so just let either of us know and if you forget we'll just remember to remind you.

Why don't you PM the mods, prepare to be hugely disappointed.

He is indeed a brand new, never-before-opened box of sigh-inducing treats.

Oh god, they are reproducing.

well this should finally put the Creationist argument to bed once and for all.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: LeeB on July 15, 2017, 11:14:49 PM
Still talking politics on a football thread?

Trying too hard.

What the actual fuck are you going on about, "trying too hard"? I'm recalling a memory regarding a topic of discussion.

And in any case, do you not think switched date of the fixture and the bottle throwing may have been polically influenced, for example?

Polically?

Villa v Sandwell got switched and a lot more than one bottle got thrown, did the major of Brum suddenly get brought into it?

Leave politics away from other football.

Linfield vs Celtic, a classic local rivalry stretching back 140 years, with a heated atmosphere caused by the local rivalry of two sets of supporters that live and work amongst each other.

Yeah, that's the cause of the trouble.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on July 16, 2017, 05:29:42 PM
I put a silly £1 twelvefold on the Scottish football this weekend. The odds were 138/1. I got eleven out of twelve games right. Partick shafted me by only drawing at Livingston.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Somniloquism on July 19, 2017, 09:42:50 PM
I see the Scottish Women footballers are marginally better then the mens team.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cheltenhamlion on July 19, 2017, 10:01:37 PM
I saw the result. And I might imagine Griffiths was lucky not to to see red in such an atmosphere when he tied a Celtic flag to the post to wind up the locals whilst the riot squad were trying to keep them off the pitch.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 19, 2017, 10:38:48 PM
I sympathise with someone wanting to wind up the locals when they've been throwing glass bottles at his head. Fuck them.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 19, 2017, 10:39:57 PM
England 6 - 0 Scotland. At least the men's team swerve results like that by never qualifying.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 19, 2017, 10:52:26 PM
Treacherously made £200 betting against Scotland...
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 19, 2017, 10:54:24 PM
Tainted money! Whatever you buy with it will break.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 19, 2017, 10:55:30 PM
To make it even more treacherous... the money for the stake was made betting against Clyde yesterday!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 19, 2017, 10:59:07 PM
Cursed money! Whatever you spend it on will be haunted. By your own treachery!!!!!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 19, 2017, 11:00:05 PM
Tempted to invest it on a Villa relegation/Small Heath FA Cup double...
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: LeeB on July 19, 2017, 11:29:02 PM
Tempted to invest it on a Villa relegation/Small Heath FA Cup double...

Can I apply early to be your butler in 12 months?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AV5nobs on July 20, 2017, 08:21:14 AM
Still think the sweaties ladies team have more composure than the men's, good see to a splendid hiding nonetheless.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 20, 2017, 02:37:05 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-40654144
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 21, 2017, 02:22:57 PM
Lukaku is going to score a lot of goals this season. And he looks like he's bulked up too. Pace and power in considerable measure.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Goldie.7 on July 21, 2017, 02:34:45 PM
Lukaku is going to score a lot of goals this season. And he looks like he's bulked up too. Pace and power in considerable measure.

Such a beast. That goal against citeh was just ridiculous, I'm dreaming of our players scoring goals like that.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on July 22, 2017, 02:54:58 PM
Like a hopeless junkie desperate for a fix, I have have half a dozen football accas in front of me waiting to follow the scores on the William Hill website. Scottish League Cup, English friendlies and Swedish football.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 22, 2017, 05:34:04 PM
Clyde beat Championship Dumbarton today. Pleasing.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on July 22, 2017, 07:18:48 PM
Like a hopeless junkie desperate for a fix, I have have half a dozen football accas in front of me waiting to follow the scores on the William Hill website. Scottish League Cup, English friendlies and Swedish football.

It didn't end well. I crashed and burned.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 22, 2017, 11:18:44 PM
Lukaku is going to score a lot of goals this season. And he looks like he's bulked up too. Pace and power in considerable measure.

Such a beast. That goal against citeh was just ridiculous, I'm dreaming of our players scoring goals.

Fixed.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: amfy on July 23, 2017, 07:55:13 PM
England ladies already looking well worth watching again. Fantastic header just wrongly disallowed but already one up in 5 mins anyway.
The composure of their finishing is brilliant. Hope I'm not jinxing them!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: tomd2103 on July 24, 2017, 03:20:31 PM
Lukaku is going to score a lot of goals this season. And he looks like he's bulked up too. Pace and power in considerable measure.

Such a beast. That goal against citeh was just ridiculous, I'm dreaming of our players scoring goals like that.

To be fair, we did have one not that long ago.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: MoetVillan on July 25, 2017, 11:49:23 AM
Lukaku is going to score a lot of goals this season. And he looks like he's bulked up too. Pace and power in considerable measure.

Such a beast. That goal against citeh was just ridiculous, I'm dreaming of our players scoring goals like that.

To be fair, we did have one not that long ago.

What?, a goal?!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Exeter 77 on July 26, 2017, 04:33:59 PM
I came across the whole NK Osijek squad last night in the hotel we are staying in before they leave to play PSV in the Europa League. They are quite possibly the smallest, in terms of height, squad of footballers I have ever seen. The complete antithesis of a team managed by Tony Pulis.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 26, 2017, 04:35:03 PM
Sure it wasn't the Bannan family on holiday?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Exeter 77 on July 26, 2017, 04:52:09 PM
Wee Barry would have been the towering centre forward for this lot. What was quite funny was after I had contemplated the dessert buffet I turned to see most of the squad descending on me only to be turned away from the cakes by the coaching staff - it seems like they like a good cream cake in the Croatian First Division.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on July 26, 2017, 08:09:53 PM
French women down to 10 and losing. Would go out of the European Championships as it stands, a huge shock.

Think they're ranked no. 3 in the world.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on July 26, 2017, 09:46:43 PM
France equalised from a freekick after a blatant dive and squeaked through.

Was quite exciting. Think this could mean they'll play England in the next round.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AV5nobs on July 27, 2017, 09:01:18 AM
Celtic not quite through yet.

Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AVH87 on July 27, 2017, 09:06:32 AM
Celtic not quite through yet.

I think they're going out. Good riddance, can get back to focusing on their tinpot league.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AV5nobs on July 27, 2017, 02:06:11 PM
Celtic not quite through yet.

I think they're going out. Good riddance, can get back to focusing on their tinpot league.

And their cup finals v Glasgow Rangers.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 27, 2017, 02:21:22 PM
They died, mate.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Alinushavfc on July 27, 2017, 03:05:08 PM
Yet I can still write Glasgow Rangers.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 27, 2017, 04:00:53 PM
I can still type Napoleon Bonaparte. What's your point?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ChicagoLion on July 27, 2017, 05:58:09 PM
Yeh welcome to the site.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: LeeB on July 27, 2017, 10:00:10 PM
I've watched the last two England women's team games and I'm massively impressed. They're tight and disciplined without the ball, work hard and are lethal going forward.

It's good stuff.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on July 27, 2017, 10:22:11 PM
Yet I can still write Glasgow Rangers.

The most unique first post ever as I can recall.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 27, 2017, 11:33:40 PM
Quote
Players at grassroots level who assault a match official will now receive a minimum five-year ban, the Football Association has told BBC Sport.

The new laws, to be introduced for the 2017-18 season, will apply to 'step five' - four tiers beneath the National League - and leagues below.

There will also be at least an 84-day ban and £100 fine for any physical contact with a match official.

Verbal threats will incur a minimum 56-day ban, or six matches, and £50 fine.

These sanctions will be a minimum, but a commission can increase the ban based on aggravating factors.

Earlier this month the FA also confirmed 32 grassroots leagues in England will trial sin-bins in the 2017-18 season.

Players will now spend 10 minutes out of the game if they are shown a yellow card for dissent.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Louzie0 on July 27, 2017, 11:46:31 PM
The referee should ask them to shake hands.
After delivering a stern telling off for both players.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 28, 2017, 01:35:59 AM
Yet I can still write Glasgow Rangers.

The most unique first post ever as I can recall.

Indeed. I was about to ask 'Are you okay, Hun?' but thought better of it.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: brian green on July 28, 2017, 07:54:11 PM
One can only dream of having had a first post like that.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Chinchilla Bathhouse on July 28, 2017, 07:59:19 PM
There's an enormous amount of pressure on his second post now. Glad I'm not in his shoes.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: brian green on July 28, 2017, 08:25:32 PM
It will be his Magnificent Ambersons after his Citizen Kane.  His Men in Black 3.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: UK Redsox on July 28, 2017, 08:30:37 PM
The 2017/18 Bundesliga 2 season started tonight.

Do they always begin this early ?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: brian green on July 28, 2017, 08:33:04 PM
I think they have to in order to get in the winter break.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 28, 2017, 11:16:16 PM
The Germans have a stupidly-long winter break and will probably finish a bit earlier than usual due to the World Cup.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on July 28, 2017, 11:56:43 PM
The 2017/18 Bundesliga 2 season started tonight.

Do they always begin this early ?
.

Bundesliga 3 started last week. So far Karlsruhe 1 point from 6 😔
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 29, 2017, 12:10:31 AM
Very upset about Brest blowing a two goal lead in their opening Ligue Ducks match.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: LeeB on July 29, 2017, 04:17:52 PM
It will be his Magnificent Ambersons after his Citizen Kane.  His Men in Black 3.

I liked Men in Black 3.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: SoccerHQ on July 29, 2017, 05:01:34 PM
Didn't see the final score but Ipswich were losing 5-0 to Charlton after 70 minutes.

Big candidates for relegation imo, can see Mick McCarthy's reputation taking a battering. Of course SHA have them up first game.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: CT on July 29, 2017, 05:11:18 PM
Just caught a penaly shootout between Hearts and Dunfermline. Whatever was going on, the Hearts fans were livid and many walked out beforehand.

Anyway, there were Dunfermline fans behind the goal taking selfies while their own players were taking them.

This will take over from half and half scarves for me in the "modern football is shit" league.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: peter w on July 29, 2017, 06:23:36 PM
One of my best nights out was in Dunfermline. Great lads up there. And then there's Allan Evans.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: CT on July 29, 2017, 06:36:45 PM
One of my best nights out was in Dunfermline. Great lads up there. And then there's Allan Evans.

...and Big Country. 
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: UK Redsox on July 29, 2017, 07:32:50 PM
The Germans have a stupidly-long winter break and will probably finish a bit earlier than usual due to the World Cup.

I'd clean forgot that 2018 is a World Cup year
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 29, 2017, 08:17:46 PM
Bromsgrove 0-4 Leamington. No real surprise as they are 3 levels higher but notable for us having to name our manager and assistant manager as subs as we had 10 players unavailable today!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ChicagoLion on July 30, 2017, 12:00:05 AM
Bromsgrove 0-4 Leamington. No real surprise as they are 3 levels higher but notable for us having to name our manager and assistant manager as subs as we had 10 players unavailable today!
Come on you Brakes.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: in exile on July 30, 2017, 11:04:08 AM
Bromsgrove 0-4 Leamington. No real surprise as they are 3 levels higher but notable for us having to name our manager and assistant manager as subs as we had 10 players unavailable today!
Come on you Brakes.

Does it improve stopping time?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 30, 2017, 12:51:13 PM
After winning the Women's European Championships six times in a row, Germany have been knocked out by Denmark in the Quarter-Finals. Wide open now, maybe England could win it. 
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Villa in Denmark on July 30, 2017, 12:53:21 PM
After winning the Women's European Championships six times in a row, Germany have been knocked out by Denmark in the Quarter-Finals. Wide open now, maybe England could win it.

Fully deserved too.

Last team to beat them in a knockout match was also Denmark in '93 apparently.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on July 30, 2017, 12:56:53 PM
Someone has to do it. Well done Denmark. Sorry I missed the match apparently it was on live  on More4 :-\
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on July 30, 2017, 12:57:55 PM
Denmark were definitely the better team, was great to see and makes the competition so much more exciting.

In fact both Denmark and the Netherlands play good attacking football. Hopefully England will get through as well.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 30, 2017, 12:59:36 PM
Germany seemed devoid of ideas without the big unit they normally stick up front.

Admittedly, I only watched the last seven minutes.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on July 30, 2017, 02:22:57 PM
Seems an open tournament. Could see Denmark, Netherlands, England or France winning it.

Don't think Spain can unless they improve dramatically and Austria seem unlikely. They work hard and press well, but don't have enough talent.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 31, 2017, 02:01:32 AM
The goalkeeping in women's football is shockingly bad. USA keeper massively fucked up for the opening goal vs Brazil. Brazil keeper terrible for the equaliser.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 31, 2017, 03:01:34 AM
Great game though 4-3 US. Lots of goals late on, US were 3-1 down
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on July 31, 2017, 09:34:43 AM
The goalkeeping in women's football is shockingly bad. USA keeper massively fucked up for the opening goal vs Brazil. Brazil keeper terrible for the equaliser.

A lot of media commentators have spoken about the high quality of the football in general, but all have spoken of the lack of quality goalkeeping.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 31, 2017, 09:58:05 AM
That'd why I couldn't understand the French pissing about with a free kick near the end, especially as the England goalkeeper seemed to be standing on one leg. Just kick it towards the goal!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: thick_mike on July 31, 2017, 06:16:08 PM
Bromsgrove 0-4 Leamington. No real surprise as they are 3 levels higher but notable for us having to name our manager and assistant manager as subs as we had 10 players unavailable today!
Come on you Brakes.

Does it improve stopping time?

Excellent!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: jwarry on July 31, 2017, 07:50:45 PM
Just been reading a report of Sheffield Wed's friendly with Rangers over the weekend. 8000 Rangers fans turned up, with smoke bombs, bangers and songs about billy boy and the pope! What on earth were Wednesday thinking? Brought back a few scary memories
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 31, 2017, 07:56:35 PM
Similar stuff with Celtic in Sunderland.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 01, 2017, 12:46:06 PM
God forbid anyone should travel in large numbers and sing at a football match.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 01, 2017, 12:50:41 PM
Singing fine. Sectarian chanting, twattish.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Chris Jameson on August 01, 2017, 01:24:32 PM
Wouldn't it be lovely to have them and their neighbours playing in the English league?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 01, 2017, 01:38:04 PM
God forbid anyone should travel in large numbers and sing at a football match.

And the fighting, attacking a shop because Tommy Robinson was there, and singing stuff like "Fuck Lee Rigby he won't fucking drumming any more"?

I'm all for fans traveling in large numbers and enjoying themselves, not so in favour of them acting like twats.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Clampy on August 01, 2017, 01:43:25 PM
God forbid anyone should travel in large numbers and sing at a football match.

And the fighting, attacking a shop because Tommy Robinson was there, and singing stuff like "Fuck Lee Rigby he won't fucking drumming any more"?

I'm all for fans traveling in large numbers and enjoying themselves, not so in favour of them acting like twats.

Tommy Robinson seemed to milk it by the sound of things though. He just happened to have a book signing in Sunderland, with a camera, wearing a Rangers shirt on the day Celtic were up there.

As for the Lee Rigby thing, that's disgusting.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Ads on August 01, 2017, 01:52:07 PM
Wouldn't it be lovely to have them and their neighbours playing in the English league?
God forbid anyone should travel in large numbers and sing at a football match.

And the fighting, attacking a shop because Tommy Robinson was there, and singing stuff like "Fuck Lee Rigby he won't fucking drumming any more"?

I'm all for fans traveling in large numbers and enjoying themselves, not so in favour of them acting like twats.

Tommy Robinson seemed to milk it by the sound of things though. He just happened to have a book signing in Sunderland, with a camera, wearing a Rangers shirt on the day Celtic were up there.

As for the Lee Rigby thing, that's disgusting.

23 arrests at a friendly.

Why we'd want either of those sectarian tossers polluting our leagues I have no idea.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 01, 2017, 01:59:40 PM
I'd imagine most of us would agree that Tommy Robinson is a twat, but it doesn't excuse attacking a shop he's in.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 01, 2017, 03:17:47 PM
For those interested, probably no one!, here are the highlights of Bromsgrove v Leamington. Their 4th is a cracker, you know it's good when you can hear your manager praising an opposition goal! For anyone that wants to watch just that goal the move starts at about 9m 20s.

Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ChicagoLion on August 01, 2017, 03:53:06 PM
I find it hard to believe that people could actually sing that about Lee Rigby.
Is that just their way of showing how much they hate the English?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Pat McMahon on August 01, 2017, 08:33:33 PM
Wednesday had a pre-season at home to Rangers 4-5 years ago so they knew what to expect. Apparently the previous match went off without major trouble ( drunkenness evidently an issue).

I live by the QPR ground and around 15 years ago they played an annual pre-season friendly v Celtic. It was without fail a day of carnage, not for violence, but because of the scale of drunkenness. I have never seen so many drunk people in one place nor so many people lying spiffo on the pavement. I remember stopping a cop car as there was a bloke unconscious on the pavement at the end of our street. The cop stopped, took a look at him and did a cursory check, looked overwhelmed and drove off.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: SteveN on August 01, 2017, 08:36:40 PM
Pre-season friendly and all that but watching Bayern Munich against Liverpool the front four for Liverpool in the first half looked very good against a strong (on paper) Bayern. 
Shame.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: SoccerHQ on August 01, 2017, 10:04:45 PM
Liverpool won 4-0 against Barcelona this time last year.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: exiled on the wirral! on August 01, 2017, 10:11:55 PM
Wouldn't it be lovely to have them and their neighbours playing in the English league?
God forbid anyone should travel in large numbers and sing at a football match.

And the fighting, attacking a shop because Tommy Robinson was there, and singing stuff like "Fuck Lee Rigby he won't fucking drumming any more"?

I'm all for fans traveling in large numbers and enjoying themselves, not so in favour of them acting like twats.

Tommy Robinson seemed to milk it by the sound of things though. He just happened to have a book signing in Sunderland, with a camera, wearing a Rangers shirt on the day Celtic were up there.

As for the Lee Rigby thing, that's disgusting.

23 arrests at a friendly.

Why we'd want either of those sectarian tossers polluting our leagues I have no idea.
I absolutely despise everything about Celtic and Rangers and everything they stand for. Hiding behind religious beliefs to excuse political bigotry while watching a game of football. W××kers the lot of them.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AV5nobs on August 02, 2017, 03:54:20 PM
Steady result for Glasgow Rangers at Sheffield Wednesday, albeit a friendly.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 02, 2017, 09:45:18 PM
Celtic through against Rosenborg. Let's they hope they get a decent draw in the next round.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: brontebilly on August 02, 2017, 10:33:09 PM
Celtic through against Rosenborg. Let's they hope they get a decent draw in the next round.

Let's not
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 02, 2017, 10:35:39 PM
None of the potential opponents look particularly difficult... it'll be Qarabag (Armenia), Astana (Kazakhstan), Rijeka (Croatia), Hapoel Be'er Sheve (Israel) or Slavia Prague.

They could do with qualifying this year as it looks much more difficult for a team from a smaller country to make it through to the groups next season.

Meanwhile, in the "non-Champions" section, Liverpool will face one of Steaua Bucharest, Young Boys Berne, Nice, Hoffenheim (Germany) or Istanbul Basaksehir. Had never heard of the Turks before but apparently Adebayor plays for them.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on August 02, 2017, 10:36:59 PM
Celtic through against Rosenborg. Let's they hope they get a decent draw in the next round.

Let's not



Is it a contradiction to say that I think Brendan Rodgers is a decent manager but I also think he is a total twat?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Tayls_7 on August 02, 2017, 10:45:31 PM
Celtic through against Rosenborg. Let's they hope they get a decent draw in the next round.

Let's not



Is it a contradiction to say that I think Brendan Rodgers is a decent manager but I also think he is a total twat?

Jose Mourinho cornered that market.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 02, 2017, 10:50:24 PM
I don't think there are any shortage of succesful managers that happen to be twats. Indeed, it maybe that there is a certain self-obsession and arrogance that gives an advantage in the job, so it may actually be beneficial being a complete twat if you want to be a manager.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AV5nobs on August 03, 2017, 12:20:07 PM
Not sure how the seeding works for Them to avoid the seeded teams the last qualifying round, however its academic as they will finish bottom of whatever group they are in.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 03, 2017, 12:36:53 PM
Wonder who The Rangers will get in the next round?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AV5nobs on August 03, 2017, 03:51:34 PM
Glasgow Rangers aren't in any European competition this coming season having lost to minnows.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Sexual Ealing on August 03, 2017, 04:07:47 PM
Glasgow Rangers aren't in any European competition this coming season having been liquidated.

Correct.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AV5nobs on August 03, 2017, 04:20:54 PM
Strange, Glasgow Rangers have got Motherwell this Sunday.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 03, 2017, 04:41:29 PM
George A. Romero would be proud.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Sexual Ealing on August 03, 2017, 06:31:18 PM
The Glaswegian Blue. It's not dead, it's resting. Prefers it on its back. Probably pining for the Gorbals.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Nev on August 03, 2017, 07:48:29 PM
Who invited that fuckin' band to the England match?

Fuck the fuck off.

Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: four fornicholl on August 03, 2017, 08:07:58 PM
The girls are behind 1 to nil, not good.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: itbrvilla on August 03, 2017, 09:03:16 PM
2 now. WTF was she thinking?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on August 03, 2017, 09:11:20 PM
Celtic through against Rosenborg. Let's they hope they get a decent draw in the next round.

Let's not



Is it a contradiction to say that I think Brendan Rodgers is a decent manager but I also think he is a total twat?

Not at all. I agree. Although I tend more towards the "he is an excellent manager and a bit of a twat". But the blend is there. I would love to see him here at some point mind, I just like the way he gets his teams playing.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: itbrvilla on August 03, 2017, 09:35:52 PM
3-0. The Dutch wanted it. We don't and had no creativity at all.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Chinchilla Bathhouse on August 03, 2017, 10:11:24 PM
I'm not sure England didn't want it, seemed more a case of thinking they already had it to me. I thought there was more than a touch of complacency there, I got the sense that they were over-confident, that they thought they just had to turn up. Maybe that comes from the manager, who's been very cocky in interviews and who strikes me as a massive prat.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on August 03, 2017, 10:27:54 PM
I'm not sure England didn't want it, seemed more a case of thinking they already had it to me. I thought there was more than a touch of complacency there, I got the sense that they were over-confident, that they thought they just had to turn up. Maybe that comes from the manager, who's been very cocky in interviews and who strikes me as a massive prat.


To be fair to him I can't manage a wife, two daughters and a female dog. So how he tries to manage that number of women is beyond me.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: London Villan on August 03, 2017, 10:31:23 PM
3-0. The Dutch wanted it. We don't and had no creativity at all.

Sounds like they have playing for England down to a tee.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ChicagoLion on August 03, 2017, 10:34:48 PM
Samson, a bit of a twat
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on August 03, 2017, 10:42:59 PM
Samson, a bit of a twat

Turns out we might have been better with Kenny Samson. I bet the team bonding weekends would be great fun.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Tayls_7 on August 04, 2017, 09:24:43 AM
(http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/players/28/2016/324x324/104116.jpg)

Amandine Henry. Was my player of the tournament. Faf. Strangely, I also have a thing for Nobbs.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Risso on August 04, 2017, 11:10:51 AM
I'm not sure England didn't want it, seemed more a case of thinking they already had it to me. I thought there was more than a touch of complacency there, I got the sense that they were over-confident, that they thought they just had to turn up. Maybe that comes from the manager, who's been very cocky in interviews and who strikes me as a massive prat.


To be fair to him I can't manage a wife, two daughters and a female dog. So how he tries to manage that number of women is beyond me.

Christ, women's football doesn't stand a chance with inane comments like that.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AVH87 on August 04, 2017, 11:14:21 AM
Samson, a bit of a twat

I've not been impressed with the way he's handled himself in the interviews I've seen either. Talks about others being cocky and needing to prove themselves but it's perhaps us that underestimated the Dutch.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 04, 2017, 11:16:30 AM
I'm not sure England didn't want it, seemed more a case of thinking they already had it to me. I thought there was more than a touch of complacency there, I got the sense that they were over-confident, that they thought they just had to turn up. Maybe that comes from the manager, who's been very cocky in interviews and who strikes me as a massive prat.


To be fair to him I can't manage a wife, two daughters and a female dog. So how he tries to manage that number of women is beyond me.

Christ, women's football doesn't stand a chance with inane comments like that.

On the plus side I bet the half time sandwiches are nice.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: spangley1812 on August 04, 2017, 08:32:46 PM
Sunderland 1 Derby 1

Forest 1 Millwall 0
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: jwarry on August 04, 2017, 08:35:04 PM
Beginning to think nobody's watching this shite on the TV.  Can't say I've been absorbed but neither of these teams frighten me at the moment
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: jwarry on August 04, 2017, 08:49:23 PM
Commentator just said Sunderland looking for their first win in August for 7 years! Jeez I thought we were bad!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: QuintonVilla on August 04, 2017, 09:12:30 PM
Sunderland are actually looking better than I expected.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Ads on August 04, 2017, 09:24:11 PM
Sunderland are woeful defensively. Quite hard working going forwards though. It's like they're trying to bully their way through.

Martin should have scored for Derby mind.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: SoccerHQ on August 04, 2017, 09:31:44 PM
Thought Weimann had signed for Wolves amongst their 30 other summer signings.

Surprised to see he's still at Derby.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: QuintonVilla on August 04, 2017, 09:47:56 PM
Nothing to worry about with either team though, both hard working but no stand out players. Mind you I thought that on the opening weekend last season and then we played and barely mustered a shot.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: jwarry on August 05, 2017, 03:37:45 PM
Wolves 1-0 up against Boro and nearly 60% possession so either they are going to be the surprise package or Boro aren't all they are cracked up to be
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Tucson Villain on August 05, 2017, 03:39:24 PM
Fulham looking good against Norwich.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Chris Jameson on August 05, 2017, 03:50:53 PM
Thoroughly enjoying the Fulham match, end to end, Cairney has been superb as has the right back Fredericks. Nice to watch some good football, it is the most middle class crowd I've been in at a football match!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: VillaAlways on August 05, 2017, 04:15:22 PM
Blues are losing
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 05, 2017, 04:44:05 PM
Luton 7-2 Yeovil.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 05, 2017, 04:47:14 PM
Blues are losing

Every team playing away today are losing except Cardiff who are drawing at Burton.

Let's hope we don't mess up.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 05, 2017, 04:49:08 PM
Cardiff winning. Which spoils me saying there has been no away goals scored in division 2 today.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 05, 2017, 05:03:47 PM
Boro and Sheff Wed both lost. I'd like to get an early 3 point jump on both
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Chris Jameson on August 05, 2017, 08:49:10 PM
If Fulham sign a centre forward I can see them having a great season, they played some lovely stuff today and Cairney and Norwood were an excellent combination in midfield, surprised Norwood was taken off as it allowed Norwich to get back into the game. I'd forgotten Cameron Jerome somehow still earns a living as a footballer, no wonder the sub who scored looked fucking furious with his manager for not starting him.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 05, 2017, 08:54:02 PM
Jerome is decent at this level, 34 goals in his last two Div 2 seasons. He's crap in the top flight though. 15 goals in his last 5 seasons in the top flight.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Clampy on August 06, 2017, 10:07:24 AM
Didn't Jerome get about 17-18 last season? I think he was mainly hopeless at Stoke because Pulis used to play him on his own up front.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 06, 2017, 03:33:20 PM
An American friend of mine is going to their first live game today, Portland Timbers v LA Galaxy. Game had to brought forward a few hours because of the heat wave problems over there, it's been regularly over 100 this week.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 06, 2017, 04:35:00 PM
Netherlands 2, Denmark 2 after 33 minutes of the Ladies' Euros Final.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: SoccerHQ on August 06, 2017, 05:05:28 PM
Leeds 2 up at Bolton.

Bolton were just a set piece team in league 1 last season, scored a stupid amount from corners. Nulify that and they haven't got much else to hurt you with.

5k Leeds fans chanting "f*** Garry Monk" is amusing me.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 06, 2017, 05:24:20 PM
What has he done to deserve that abuse?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Villa in Denmark on August 06, 2017, 06:00:42 PM
Netherlands 2, Denmark 2 after 33 minutes of the Ladies' Euros Final.

Finished 4-2 to Holland who deserved it based on the second half after a very end to end first half.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Villa in Denmark on August 06, 2017, 06:01:32 PM
What has he done to deserve that abuse?
Had the temerity to resign because he wasn't happy there?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: spangley1812 on August 06, 2017, 06:08:38 PM
Leeds winning 3 - 2 with 15 mins left
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 06, 2017, 06:10:21 PM
What has he done to deserve that abuse?
Had the temerity to resign because he wasn't happy there?

What a bastard.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: SoccerHQ on August 06, 2017, 06:32:58 PM
What has he done to deserve that abuse?
Had the temerity to resign because he wasn't happy there?

What a bastard.

Thumbs up from MON.

Not sure it was cut and dried as that. Looks to me like he'd agreed to join Boro for a while but paid lip service to Leeds that he wanted more money and then he'd signed a deal. Cellino also sold up so Leeds fans assumed he'd stay and he walked out regardless.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 06, 2017, 06:36:28 PM
He left two days after the new owner arrived. It seems unlikely that the arrival may have made up his mind to leave. Considering the way that Leeds have fucked their managers about in recent years, I can't blame him for wanting out.

No comparison with O'Neill who had his every whim and fancy catered for during his tenure, before flouncing out after being told he had to try managing the players he had signed, rather than just spending another trillion on a new batch to replace them.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 06, 2017, 07:14:38 PM
Ridgwell puts Portland 1-0 up
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 06, 2017, 07:15:31 PM
1-1
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 06, 2017, 07:20:25 PM
1-2 L.A.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 06, 2017, 07:21:05 PM
Or is it, video review!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 06, 2017, 07:22:03 PM
Back to 1-1
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 06, 2017, 07:24:21 PM
Video review works, it was a handball. Dunno if I like it mind.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 06, 2017, 07:25:08 PM
All by myself!

Anyway the game is live here for anyone interested

Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 06, 2017, 07:27:53 PM
I like video review. Anything that reduces the advantage the likes of Man U have is good for the game.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 06, 2017, 07:30:09 PM
I have to say it's been a very entertaining 20 mins so far. Let's go Timbers, let's go.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 06, 2017, 07:43:09 PM
Great goal, 2-1 Portland. Jammy feckers are allowed pyros!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AV5nobs on August 06, 2017, 07:46:47 PM
Superb result for Glasgow Rangers, cmon the gers!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 06, 2017, 07:53:00 PM
Portland should have had a penalty.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 06, 2017, 08:21:04 PM
3-1, great goal, shades of Benteke to Weimann at Anfield.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 06, 2017, 08:21:42 PM
Although the Portland player looks like he did his hamstring with the back heel.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 06, 2017, 09:07:53 PM
Ref books a Portland player for complaining that the opposition weren't 10 yards away from a freekick, despite 3 LA players being within about a foot of the ball and refusing to retreat any further.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Dave on August 06, 2017, 10:48:49 PM
Superb result for Glasgow Rangers, cmon the gers!

Was it?

Wasn't it just the team who finished third beating a side who finished thirty points behind them last season?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Sexual Ealing on August 06, 2017, 10:51:50 PM
Superb result for Glasgow Rangers, cmon the gers!

Was it?

Wasn't it just the team who finished third beating a side who finished thirty points behind them last season?

Glasgow Rangers don't exist.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 06, 2017, 10:53:55 PM
In fairness, Motherwell are an established club, founded in 1886, and former League Champions, Scottish Cup and League Cup Winners. It's pretty impressive that a club that was only founded in 2012 could beat them.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Chris Jameson on August 06, 2017, 10:55:31 PM
AV5nobs is the Richard Littlejohn of the site, he says what others fear to say. Or something like that.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AV5nobs on August 06, 2017, 10:58:06 PM
Glasgow Rangers beat Motherwell 2-1.

Not bad for a team that doesn't exist.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 06, 2017, 11:01:07 PM
Sevco Scotland Ltd beat Motherwell today. Rangers Football Club died in 2012. There has never been a team called "Glasgow Rangers". "Glasgow Rangers" is a phrase used exclusively by idiots.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Chris Jameson on August 06, 2017, 11:13:33 PM
Glasgow Rangers beat Motherwell 2-1.


#FakeNews
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ChicagoLion on August 06, 2017, 11:14:37 PM
Out of interest, did you follow the events leading up to the Rangers FC closure CD?
What'd yer think?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 06, 2017, 11:20:59 PM
I nearly pissed my laughing when Rangers went bust. I hope it happens again and again. And to Celtic as well.

As an aside, always amuses me when football fans slate glory hunters and then support Rangers or Celtic. Up the Accies!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 06, 2017, 11:23:06 PM
I though it was hilarious.

I thought the Scottish fans did themselves proud, too. Livingston were liquidated, and punted to the bottom tier. Gretna were liquidated and punted to the bottom tier (before deciding to withdraw altogether and eventually reforming outside the league).

It would have been shameful had the league bent over backwards to accommodate Newco Rangers, as it was quite clear that senior administrators wanted to. Fans put pressure on their clubs not to vote the new club into the top two tiers, with threats to boycott season tickets if necessary. The end result was that, as a result of fan power, the league put them into the fourth level... exactly as they should have been.

Of course the Zombies think that they were treated unfairly and that there is some global conspiracy against them. Even though they ended up with exactly the same treatment as Livingston and Gretna. Their hysterical reactions just make it all the funnier.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ChicagoLion on August 06, 2017, 11:24:34 PM
I nearly pissed my laughing when Rangers went bust. I hope it happens again and again. And to Celtic as well.

As an aside, always amuses me when football fans slate glory hunters and then support Rangers or Celtic. Up the Accies!
I know /knew one of the protagonists at the time ?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 06, 2017, 11:26:22 PM
I nearly pissed my laughing when Rangers went bust. I hope it happens again and again. And to Celtic as well.

As an aside, always amuses me when football fans slate glory hunters and then support Rangers or Celtic. Up the Accies!
I know /knew one of the protagonists at the time ?

Why are you asking me if you know/knew one of them?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ChicagoLion on August 06, 2017, 11:31:19 PM
I nearly pissed my laughing when Rangers went bust. I hope it happens again and again. And to Celtic as well.

As an aside, always amuses me when football fans slate glory hunters and then support Rangers or Celtic. Up the Accies!
I know /knew one of the protagonists at the time ?

Why are you asking me if you know/knew one of them?
Actually I was asking CD, he seems to have some strong views, there was an awful lot going on at the time, some of it in the press, some of it not.
Sorry if I have strayed.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 06, 2017, 11:33:23 PM
I just like winding up followers of the late Govan team.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AV5nobs on August 06, 2017, 11:48:04 PM
It's too easy.

Fishing in a Sceptic tank.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 06, 2017, 11:50:26 PM
It's too easy.

Fishing in a Sceptic tank.

That awkward moment when you don't know the difference between 'sceptic' and 'septic'.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AV5nobs on August 06, 2017, 11:52:24 PM
Read my post from then other day.

Sceptic fans at their hopes of ever finishing 3rd in their CL group.

And far less offensive.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 06, 2017, 11:52:57 PM
Yeah ok.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 06, 2017, 11:54:03 PM
Read my post from then other day

I'm not sure that pointing out that you've made the same stupid mistake more than once really helps your cause.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 06, 2017, 11:54:49 PM
I'm septical that he meant it.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AV5nobs on August 06, 2017, 11:55:27 PM
Anyway back on topic, good win for Glasgow Rangers.

Could be an interesting season.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 06, 2017, 11:57:07 PM
Bless. They'll be dancing in the streets of Belfast.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AV5nobs on August 06, 2017, 11:58:05 PM
I'm septical that Glasgow Rangers will win the league this season.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 06, 2017, 11:58:05 PM
Scottish football hasn't been interesting for 30 odd years. Apart from Rangers ceasing to exist.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AV5nobs on August 07, 2017, 12:00:20 AM
And every other city in the United Kingdom under our great realm.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 07, 2017, 12:00:37 AM
I think the second tier has been quite interesting in the last few years. The top league is always boring.

I did enjoy the 2016 Cup Final though.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AV5nobs on August 07, 2017, 12:05:07 AM
I take as much joy in Scotlands lack of tournament appearances.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 07, 2017, 12:09:35 AM
That's not nice. I'm very upseptic.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 07, 2017, 12:12:40 AM
Pack it in please.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: davidb on August 07, 2017, 12:44:14 AM
David villa looking class...but also some dodgy defending
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 07, 2017, 12:47:44 AM
It's a bit poor that New Jersey teams feel the need to deny where they are from. I don't like the Man City tribute act either, though.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ajmant on August 07, 2017, 05:28:38 PM
I see West Ham have got to play their first three fixtures away from home and also switch their League Cup tie to away from home. Is it just me or is it pretty farcical? Here's a new stadium, for diddly squat money (yes I know they pay rent, but compare that to building a new stadium), but because it's an Athletics venue, and the powers that be cant turn it back into a football stadium quick enough, then they can't manage the fixture list properly.

Just makes my blood boil sometimes.

Rant over.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: four fornicholl on August 07, 2017, 05:38:19 PM
I see West Ham have got to play their first three fixtures away from home and also switch their League Cup tie to away from home. Is it just me or is it pretty farcical? Here's a new stadium, for diddly squat money (yes I know they pay rent, but compare that to building a new stadium), but because it's an Athletics venue, and the powers that be cant turn it back into a football stadium quick enough, then they can't manage the fixture list properly.

Just makes my blood boil sometimes.

Rant over.
You could also argue that it maybe gives them some sort of advantage so early in the season.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Clampy on August 08, 2017, 08:06:26 PM
I see Baker has scored for Bristol City. Isn't he meant to be suspended?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: saunders_heroes on August 08, 2017, 08:18:39 PM
What's with this 3 minute drinks break 30 minutes into the European Super Cup final? A one off, surely?
We don't want this creeping into league football.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Exeter 77 on August 08, 2017, 08:20:01 PM
I see Baker has scored for Bristol City. Isn't he meant to be suspended?
Only for last Saturday.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Dave on August 08, 2017, 08:21:01 PM
What's with this 3 minute drinks break 30 minutes into the European Super Cup final? A one off, surely?
We don't want this creeping into league football.

Aren't they playing in 35 degree heat?

Any league match played at that temperature has my blessing to keep the players hydrated.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: spangley1812 on August 08, 2017, 08:21:14 PM
What's with this 3 minute drinks break 30 minutes into the European Super Cup final? A one off, surely?
We don't want this creeping into league football.

It is just a one off due to the humidity in Macedonia
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Clampy on August 08, 2017, 08:24:04 PM
I see Baker has scored for Bristol City. Isn't he meant to be suspended?
Only for last Saturday.

Ah, ok. He got a straight red in the Brighton game last season which is why I thought he was out for longer.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: saunders_heroes on August 08, 2017, 08:26:19 PM
What's with this 3 minute drinks break 30 minutes into the European Super Cup final? A one off, surely?
We don't want this creeping into league football.

Aren't they playing in 35 degree heat?

Any league match played at that temperature has my blessing to keep the players hydrated.

Oh I didn't realise. I just turned on the TV as they were taking a break.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Clampy on August 08, 2017, 08:31:55 PM
What's with this 3 minute drinks break 30 minutes into the European Super Cup final? A one off, surely?
We don't want this creeping into league football.

Aren't they playing in 35 degree heat?

Any league match played at that temperature has my blessing to keep the players hydrated.

How they're going to cope in Quatar in a a few years time is anyone's guess. 
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 08, 2017, 09:21:11 PM
That's why it'll be in the winter. It'll still be hot, but if they have drinks breaks it should be okay.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: saunders_heroes on August 08, 2017, 10:14:48 PM
Less than 8k at the Sty tonight for the first game of the season. Big club.
Won 5-1. I bet they shuddered at that score line.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Richard E on August 08, 2017, 10:16:29 PM
Less than 8k at the Sty tonight for the first game of the season. Big club.
Won 5-1. I bet they shuddered at that score line.

Nah, they wouldn't remember something involving Villa from that long ago, that would be completely out of character for them.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on August 09, 2017, 01:53:23 PM
I had three £1 sevenfolds on last nights League Cup/Caracas Cup/ whatever it is called now. Worth about sixty quid in total if they all came in. I got six right out of seven on all three of them. So basically close but no cigar, close but no cigar and close but no cigar.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AV5nobs on August 09, 2017, 05:55:59 PM
Cmon the Glasgow Rangers tonight!

A win to complete a seven fold!

Up the Gers!

Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 09, 2017, 06:00:17 PM
I'm septical that the bet will come off.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: LeeB on August 09, 2017, 06:12:50 PM
Dirty cash if it does.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AV5nobs on August 09, 2017, 06:15:45 PM
Easy win for Glasgow Rangers later.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: four fornicholl on August 09, 2017, 06:28:24 PM
Easy win for Glasgow Rangers later.
Next.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AV5nobs on August 09, 2017, 06:45:56 PM
Comfortable win for Leeds.

Will take dirty money.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AV5nobs on August 09, 2017, 08:43:17 PM
Cheers Glasgow Rangers, paid for Saturday at Cardiff!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AV5nobs on August 09, 2017, 09:19:21 PM
Glasgow Rangers 5-0 up.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Tayls_7 on August 09, 2017, 09:32:03 PM
Glasgow Rangers 5-0 up.

Sinister, politically rooted Scottish football. Scintillating.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: four fornicholl on August 09, 2017, 09:33:20 PM
Glasgow Rangers 5-0 up.

Sinister, politically rooted Scottish football. Scintillating.
It's scinister. ;)
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AV5nobs on August 09, 2017, 09:33:48 PM
Nothing political at all, Glasgow Rangers won me money.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 09, 2017, 09:36:28 PM
In their honour, you should avoid declaring it to the taxman.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AV5nobs on August 09, 2017, 09:40:31 PM
Happy happy boy tonight ££££
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: four fornicholl on August 09, 2017, 09:41:25 PM
Nothing political at all, Glasgow Rangers won me money.
You'll get fucked over soon, enjoy it while it lasts.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AV5nobs on August 09, 2017, 10:00:21 PM
Enjoying as we speak.

Cheers Glasgow Rangers.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: in exile on August 10, 2017, 10:03:42 AM
Oh you are so clever
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on August 10, 2017, 10:29:19 AM
After getting six out of seven selections right on each of my three accumulaters on Tuesday night I managed to cop a fivefold last night.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on August 10, 2017, 10:34:09 AM
Happy happy boy tonight ££££
Well done Nobs.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Villa in Denmark on August 10, 2017, 09:28:18 PM
Sunderland beating Bury in a game that's just as awful as ours was last night, but without the weather as an excuse.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 10, 2017, 09:30:08 PM
Must be the most boring First Round ever. The only upsets were Accrington beating Preston and Colchester losing to Villa.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: tomd2103 on August 11, 2017, 12:25:00 PM
Interesting piece on someone who's name appears on here whenever the manager's job becomes available:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40879274

Check out Pochettino's ponytail in the one picture!!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ChicagoLion on August 11, 2017, 01:08:23 PM
In their honour, you should avoid declaring it to the taxman.
Commit fraud, liquidate then reincorparate pretending you are the same person with a new but similar name like Nob.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 11, 2017, 01:09:39 PM
Brilliant stuff. I don't know whether to laugh or cry. Can you imagine where we'd be today if we'd brought him in instead of RDM? Even if we are to be promoted this season we'll have to completely rebuild for a return to the PL unless we want a repeat of the last 6 years.

Quote
"With Marcelo in charge we shouldn't be shy in saying we want to put together the greatest football, with the greatest coach for what we're trying to do," Ingla says.

"That's a spectacular, offensive, winning style and we believe he can be the greatest executor of our plan."

"We want to excite the crowd and surprise the crowd with spectacular pressing football."

**Sobs**
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 11, 2017, 07:27:05 PM
Didn't realise Leicester had actually signed Iheanacho properly, assumed he was a loan. I reckon he could end up going for loads more money like when Chelsea let Lukaku go.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: spangley1812 on August 11, 2017, 07:49:32 PM
1 - 0 ........Arsenal - Lacazette after 2 mins
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: spangley1812 on August 11, 2017, 07:50:11 PM
Didn't realise Leicester had actually signed Iheanacho properly, assumed he was a loan. I reckon he could end up going for loads more money like when Chelsea let Lukaku go.

Citeh have inserted a buy-back clause and have 1st refusal
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: spangley1812 on August 11, 2017, 07:50:40 PM
1 - 0 ........Arsenal - Lacazette after 2 mins

1 - 1.....Okazaki
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Monty on August 11, 2017, 07:57:06 PM
Wow Arsenal are really committed to being Arsenal aren't they? Almost aggressively frustrating.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Mossie Hennebry on August 11, 2017, 08:01:45 PM
Ever find yourself cheering for Leicester? It's a weird feeling.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: john e on August 11, 2017, 08:03:20 PM
Wow Arsenal are really committed to being Arsenal aren't they? Almost aggressively frustrating.

they are very busy being Arsenal
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Mossie Hennebry on August 11, 2017, 08:04:40 PM
Ulloa would do a decent job for us, wouldn't he? More than decent. He's not even on the bench tonight. Sign him up!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AV5nobs on August 11, 2017, 08:06:45 PM
Arsenal have won 1 of there last 7 opening day games....oh the days of Tony Moon one on one.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: spangley1812 on August 11, 2017, 08:14:59 PM
1 - 2.........Vardy
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Monty on August 11, 2017, 08:16:14 PM
No but who needs Albrighton when you have Tonev though.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Villa Lew on August 11, 2017, 08:16:40 PM
What a cross from Marc
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 11, 2017, 08:26:04 PM
They'll be singing "spend some fakkin' money" again soon.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: spangley1812 on August 11, 2017, 08:33:35 PM
2 - 2.......Wellbeck
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 11, 2017, 08:43:06 PM
Rubbish by Mahrez for the equaliser. Arsenal will probably win it with ease, now.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: spangley1812 on August 11, 2017, 08:59:50 PM
2 - 3........Vardy
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 11, 2017, 09:01:08 PM
This is quite good fun.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 11, 2017, 09:02:44 PM
Arsenal must be a good bet for the drop.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Monty on August 11, 2017, 09:03:03 PM
They're just amazing.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AV5nobs on August 11, 2017, 09:21:24 PM
The green and sh*te don't look too great, Glasgow Rangers can get at them this season.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: paul_e on August 11, 2017, 09:21:52 PM
Arsenal just don't start well, Lacazette looks like a very good addition though, I think he'll have a very good season.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AV5nobs on August 11, 2017, 09:28:32 PM
Arsenal have won 1 of there last 7 opening day games....oh the days of Tony Moon one on one.

Make that 8.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 11, 2017, 09:28:37 PM
Arsenal must be a good bet for the top 4.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Karlos96 on August 11, 2017, 09:29:00 PM
4-3 to Arsenal
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Monty on August 11, 2017, 09:29:15 PM
Arsenal have won 1 of there last 7 opening day games....oh the days of Tony Moon one on one.

Make that 8.

Timing.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 11, 2017, 09:29:43 PM
Arsenal must be a good bet to win the league.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AV5nobs on August 11, 2017, 09:30:11 PM
They have more chance of top four Mayweather losing to the pikey.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Dave on August 11, 2017, 09:31:31 PM
Arsenal have won 1 of there last 7 opening day games....oh the days of Tony Moon one on one.

Make that 8.

You're good at this.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 11, 2017, 09:31:41 PM
They have more chance of top four Mayweather losing to the pikey.

And that's quite enough of that thank you
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: paul_e on August 11, 2017, 09:32:16 PM
They have more chance of top four Mayweather losing to the pikey.

You really need to reconsider the choice of term there, especially given your previous posts about racism.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: paul_e on August 11, 2017, 09:33:06 PM
on the game, that was a fucking brilliant header from Giroud for the 4th.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AV5nobs on August 11, 2017, 09:33:40 PM
Fair play, that's timing.

I stand by my claim they have more chance of top four than Mayweather losing to the traveler.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: dave shelley on August 11, 2017, 09:34:30 PM
They have more chance of top four Mayweather losing to the pikey.

McGregor is as far removed from a Pikey that you can get.  Educate yourself.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: saunders_heroes on August 11, 2017, 09:34:35 PM
Watching games like this makes me mad jealous we're out of it. We've got to get back to where we belong.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: saunders_heroes on August 11, 2017, 09:35:18 PM
Who's the scouser co-commentating on Sky?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: dave shelley on August 11, 2017, 09:35:43 PM
Watching games like this makes me mad jealous we're out of it. We've got to get back to where we belong.

Frustrating isn't it?  We are a million miles away at the moment.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 11, 2017, 09:35:53 PM
Who's the scouser co-commentating on Sky?

Errrrrrrrrrrrrrm it's Carragher. I think.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: saunders_heroes on August 11, 2017, 09:36:17 PM
They have more chance of top four Mayweather losing to the pikey.

McGregor is as far removed from a Pikey that you can get.  Educate yourself.

Traveller.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: saunders_heroes on August 11, 2017, 09:37:10 PM
Who's the scouser co-commentating on Sky?

Errrrrrrrrrrrrrm it's Carragher. I think.

He's the only irritating thing about tonight's game. I don't know what the obsession is with him.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: dave shelley on August 11, 2017, 09:37:46 PM
OK. McGregor is as far removed from a Traveller as you can get.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AV5nobs on August 11, 2017, 09:38:53 PM
They have more chance of top four Mayweather losing to the pikey.

McGregor is as far removed from a Pikey that you can get.  Educate yourself.

Traveller.

Thank you, predictive text not great on my phone
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: saunders_heroes on August 11, 2017, 09:42:44 PM
OK. McGregor is as far removed from a Traveller as you can get.

I was joking, I knew what you meant.
As an aside I'd never heard the word "Pikey" till about 10 years ago. I always heard them referred to as "knackers" or "Tinkers" in Ireland. Went to my brother's home near Ennis about 10 years ago and near his house there was a huge Berlin style wall built nearby. I asked him what they hell it was and he said they've built homes for Travellers the other side of it. They're really not popular over there.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: saunders_heroes on August 11, 2017, 09:44:26 PM
I know they lost tonight but Leicester really are a fantastic success story in recent years. Did they sell their soul to the devil or something? Just how have they done it?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AV5nobs on August 11, 2017, 09:45:37 PM
Great game, still won't finish top four.

Roll on Cardiff in the morning.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: dave shelley on August 11, 2017, 09:47:11 PM
OK. McGregor is as far removed from a Traveller as you can get.

I was joking, I knew what you meant.
As an aside I'd never heard the word "Pikey" till about 10 years ago. I always heard them referred to as "knackers" or "Tinkers" in Ireland. Went to my brother's home near Ennis about 10 years ago and near his house there was a huge Berlin style wall built nearby. I asked him what they hell it was and he said they've built homes for Travellers the other side of it. They're really not popular over there.

Fair enough and yes, The travelling community are not popular but, therein lies a long and deep argument, ask any of our Irish posters.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: paul_e on August 11, 2017, 09:51:08 PM
I know they lost tonight but Leicester really are a fantastic success story in recent years. Did they sell their soul to the devil or something? Just how have they done it?

Players with loads of pace and decent technique and then lots of coaching and fitness work to get them working for each other and playing to a very simple plan to make use of the pace.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Villa in Denmark on August 11, 2017, 09:53:53 PM
I know they lost tonight but Leicester really are a fantastic success story in recent years. Did they sell their soul to the devil or something? Just how have they done it?

Players with loads of pace and decent technique and then lots of coaching and fitness work to get them working for each other and playing to a very simple plan to make use of the pace.

What's that malarkey all about then?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Dave on August 11, 2017, 09:55:00 PM
I know they lost tonight but Leicester really are a fantastic success story in recent years. Did they sell their soul to the devil or something? Just how have they done it?

Players with loads of pace and decent technique and then lots of coaching and fitness work to get them working for each other and playing to a very simple plan to make use of the pace.

You make a good case. I'm still siding with witchcraft though.

I think they probably offered Muzzy Izzet as a human sacrifice.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 11, 2017, 09:55:16 PM

I know they lost tonight but Leicester really are a fantastic success story in recent years. Did they sell their soul to the devil or something? Just how have they done it?

Players with loads of pace and decent technique and then lots of coaching and fitness work to get them working for each other and playing to a very simple plan to make use of the pace.

What's that malarkey all about then?

Sounds a bit foreign, to me.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AV5nobs on August 11, 2017, 09:55:25 PM
Leicester lost folks, they were outstanding to do what they did during transition for all of the big boys, they will not finish top ten this season.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Tayls_7 on August 11, 2017, 09:57:28 PM
OK. McGregor is as far removed from a Traveller as you can get.

I was joking, I knew what you meant.
As an aside I'd never heard the word "Pikey" till about 10 years ago. I always heard them referred to as "knackers" or "Tinkers" in Ireland. Went to my brother's home near Ennis about 10 years ago and near his house there was a huge Berlin style wall built nearby. I asked him what they hell it was and he said they've built homes for Travellers the other side of it. They're really not popular over there.

Fair enough and yes, The travelling community are not popular but, therein lies a long and deep argument, ask any of our Irish posters.

Periodically they're a blight on lots of communities.  They disrupt greatly while willing to contribute nothing. That is far from laudable given they want to wear clothes and drive vehicles that others have to go in factories to produce. 
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Dave on August 11, 2017, 09:58:10 PM
Leicester lost folks, they were outstanding to do what they did during transition for all of the big boys, they will not finish top ten this season.

You're surprisingly confident in your predictions for somebody posting around 20 minutes ago that Arsenal had lost.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: paul_e on August 11, 2017, 09:58:50 PM
Great game, still won't finish top four.

Roll on Cardiff in the morning.


If they can keep everyone happy (including Sanchez) they have fuck loads of goals on that squad.  I'm still not convinced by their defence though, Bellerin is very good going forward and I like the look of Mustafi but the rest of the defenders in the squad are either shit or past it.  It's all going to depend on how often they can outscore teams and how they react in the games where they're not on top.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: saunders_heroes on August 11, 2017, 09:59:15 PM
Leicester lost folks, they were outstanding to do what they did during transition for all of the big boys, they will not finish top ten this season.

Maybe so but they've been brilliant no doubts about that. Their name is on the PL trophy and it ain't ever coming off.
We need to get our sorry arses back to the PL and compete with them before we start to fester in the lower leagues. This has to be the season we go up.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AV5nobs on August 11, 2017, 10:00:03 PM
Do you think it's more likely to predict over 38 games than 20 minutes in an opener?

Shouldn't really have to ask though should I.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Tony Erdington on August 11, 2017, 10:00:25 PM
I watched last twenty mins of arse v Leicester tigers , arse have some good players but aren't a team , tigers are vardy, and shit, BUT  they are both far better than us, how did that happen?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 11, 2017, 10:01:38 PM
Keeping Sanchez is key for them. Will he sign a £300K a week contract or will Arsenal have to sell him so as he doesn't leave for nothing in a year?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: saunders_heroes on August 11, 2017, 10:02:35 PM
OK. McGregor is as far removed from a Traveller as you can get.

I was joking, I knew what you meant.
As an aside I'd never heard the word "Pikey" till about 10 years ago. I always heard them referred to as "knackers" or "Tinkers" in Ireland. Went to my brother's home near Ennis about 10 years ago and near his house there was a huge Berlin style wall built nearby. I asked him what they hell it was and he said they've built homes for Travellers the other side of it. They're really not popular over there.

Fair enough and yes, The travelling community are not popular but, therein lies a long and deep argument, ask any of our Irish posters.

Periodically they're a blight on lots of communities.  They disrupt greatly while willing to contribute nothing. That is far from laudable given they want to wear clothes and drive vehicles that others have to go in factories to produce. 

I spent a large chunk of my life in Ireland and the travelller community have always been ostracised from the rest of community from what I have seen. I was always told to keep well clear from them.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: paul_e on August 11, 2017, 10:03:12 PM
Do you think it's more likely to predict over 38 games than 20 minutes in an opener?

Shouldn't really have to ask though should I.

if you wait for 38 games then it's not a prediction is it.

However if after 1 game you're seeing the same pattern (i.e. arsenal can score some great goals but they make stupid mistakes in defence and over play too often) then you can predict that things might not change significantly from the last 4-5 years where all the same problems have been visible.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 11, 2017, 10:04:38 PM
This pitch side guff won't last long.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AV5nobs on August 11, 2017, 10:05:01 PM
Leicester lost folks, they were outstanding to do what they did during transition for all of the big boys, they will not finish top ten this season.

You're surprisingly confident in your predictions for somebody posting around 20 minutes ago that Arsenal had lost.

And if you read the post again I said that was 1 in 8 games not won opening day, a draw would have continued that fact.

Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AV5nobs on August 11, 2017, 10:07:32 PM
Do you think it's more likely to predict over 38 games than 20 minutes in an opener?

Shouldn't really have to ask though should I.

if you wait for 38 games then it's not a prediction is it.

However if after 1 game you're seeing the same pattern (i.e. arsenal can score some great goals but they make stupid mistakes in defence and over play too often) then you can predict that things might not change significantly from the last 4-5 years where all the same problems have been visible.

I'm not waiting for 38 games, I'm saying after one win out of one they will still not finish top four AFTER 38 games, which I would say is a daring comment.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: paul_e on August 11, 2017, 10:15:36 PM
Do you think it's more likely to predict over 38 games than 20 minutes in an opener?

Shouldn't really have to ask though should I.

if you wait for 38 games then it's not a prediction is it.

However if after 1 game you're seeing the same pattern (i.e. arsenal can score some great goals but they make stupid mistakes in defence and over play too often) then you can predict that things might not change significantly from the last 4-5 years where all the same problems have been visible.

I'm not waiting for 38 games, I'm saying after one win out of one they will still not finish top four AFTER 38 games, which I would say is a daring comment.

You might have been trying to say that but no one would've read it like that.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Dave on August 11, 2017, 10:18:35 PM
Leicester lost folks, they were outstanding to do what they did during transition for all of the big boys, they will not finish top ten this season.

You're surprisingly confident in your predictions for somebody posting around 20 minutes ago that Arsenal had lost.

And if you read the post again I said that was 1 in 8 games not won opening day, a draw would have continued that fact.

And how did the match finish up?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AV5nobs on August 11, 2017, 10:18:48 PM
How convenient.

Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AV5nobs on August 11, 2017, 10:20:32 PM
Leicester lost folks, they were outstanding to do what they did during transition for all of the big boys, they will not finish top ten this season.

You're surprisingly confident in your predictions for somebody posting around 20 minutes ago that Arsenal had lost.

And if you read the post again I said that was 1 in 8 games not won opening day, a draw would have continued that fact.

And how did the match finish up?

Arsenal won, no tears I'm afraid.

Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: adrenachrome on August 11, 2017, 10:35:08 PM
The green and sh*te don't look too great, Glasgow Rangers can get at them this season.

Dream on, Hun.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 12, 2017, 03:22:30 AM
The green and sh*te don't look too great, Glasgow Rangers can get at them this season.

Are you okay, Hun?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 12, 2017, 08:18:48 AM
An aside, I never really understand why they are called Huns... and why are Celtic Tims?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 12, 2017, 08:52:28 AM
Tim Malloy gang for Tims.

Pretty sure it's to do with loyalty to the Queen and the German bloodline for Hun.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 12, 2017, 08:54:55 AM
Cheers.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Tony Erdington on August 12, 2017, 01:15:32 PM
Liverpool are back and do they look hungry.

Premiership be warned.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Chris Jameson on August 12, 2017, 01:21:12 PM
#KloppOut
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Chris Jameson on August 12, 2017, 01:50:05 PM
#KloppIn
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 12, 2017, 02:04:14 PM
An aside, I never really understand why they are called Huns... and why are Celtic Tims?

Or Atilla the. Ironically, during the first world war it was the Catholics in Scotland who were called Huns due to their perceived lack of loyalty to the crown.

Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Chris Smith on August 12, 2017, 02:08:21 PM
#Kloppitallabout
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: MoetVillan on August 12, 2017, 02:26:46 PM
Heh heh heh. Villa defending
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Chris Jameson on August 12, 2017, 02:33:41 PM
13 goals in two matches of the Premier League, might stay awake to fall asleep during Match of The Day if this goal average keeps up.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: KevinGage on August 12, 2017, 02:46:28 PM
Carragher in full-on squeak mode this afternoon.  Awful squeaking bastard.

 
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on August 12, 2017, 02:59:51 PM
I see defences on top in the first two PL games. Only 13 goals conceded.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: CT on August 12, 2017, 03:43:54 PM
Chelsea 0 Burnley 3

I expect a few home fans will be planning on supporting someone else soon.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 12, 2017, 05:15:16 PM
Pissed off after watching that shite. Please can someone cheer me up and tell me that the Queen's brave "Glasgow" Rangers won?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: SoccerHQ on August 12, 2017, 05:52:48 PM
Gestede just scored.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on August 12, 2017, 05:59:40 PM
No Steve McM stop defending Jesus he clearly cheated. Deliberate handball and yellow card is correct. I hand former players who don't call it as it is.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: adrenachrome on August 12, 2017, 06:22:57 PM
No Steve McM stop defending Jesus he clearly cheated. Deliberate handball and yellow card is correct. I hand former players who don't call it as it is.

I can't stand them either, but I would draw the line at handing them. Then again, Terry Vennables once allegedly told Gazza that he would pull the player off at half time if he wasn't up for it or some such.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: UK Redsox on August 12, 2017, 07:27:21 PM
Huddersfield Town are top of the Premier League
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: john e on August 12, 2017, 07:32:15 PM
Huddersfield Town are top of the Premier League

the new Leicester City get your money on
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Chris Jameson on August 12, 2017, 08:44:28 PM
Huddersfield Town are top of the Premier League

the new Leicester City get your money on

That would be a bit reckless, I'm going to also put a bet on Burnley to be on the safe side.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on August 12, 2017, 10:39:29 PM
Clyde won
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 12, 2017, 10:42:08 PM
So did the Accies!!! In front 1600 fans. How they ever survive in the top flight with those 'crowds' is beyond me.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: KevinGage on August 12, 2017, 11:35:27 PM
What's the deal with Ian Wright then? 

Licence payer funded clown.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on August 12, 2017, 11:40:38 PM
No Steve McM stop defending Jesus he clearly cheated. Deliberate handball and yellow card is correct. I hand former players who don't call it as it is.
I can't stand them either, but I would draw the line at handing them. Then again, Terry Vennables once allegedly told Gazza that he would pull the player off at half time if he wasn't up for it or some such.
Yes  very good. Should have written "hate".
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on August 13, 2017, 12:06:47 AM
So did the Accies!!! In front 1600 fans. How they ever survive in the top flight with those 'crowds' is beyond me.

Gives me hope that Clyde can one day get back to the top flight. We did play at hamilton's old ground for a few seasons.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 13, 2017, 01:40:17 AM
Clyde would get 80,000 every week in the Premier League.

#sleepinggiants
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AV5nobs on August 13, 2017, 11:31:22 AM
Another great game at Glasgow Rangers.

Fair play Hibs as well.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Chris Jameson on August 13, 2017, 03:01:09 PM
Shelvey once again proving what a moron he is.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AV5nobs on August 13, 2017, 03:06:06 PM
Shelvey once again proving what a moron he is.

Agreed.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: KevinGage on August 13, 2017, 03:16:20 PM
Another great game at Glasgow Rangers.

Fair play Hibs as well.

Aye. For a young club with no history and no pedigree, they are at least competitive now against some of the more established clubs in that division.  Just keeping the losing margin to one goal.  Well played.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AV5nobs on August 13, 2017, 03:20:40 PM
That's why I was pleased with the performance of Glasgow Rangers, Hibs fully deserved the victory and I'm just glad Glasgow Rangers are competing again.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 13, 2017, 03:21:44 PM
Watching Strasbourg - Lille.

Interesting to see how Marcelo Bielsa does it. Every ball seems to be a forward pass to feet, the amount of pressing is leading to plenty of errors by Strasbourg. Wonderful to watch and the kind of football we'd love at Villa Park. Oh well..
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: LeeB on August 13, 2017, 03:34:47 PM
That's why I was pleased with the performance of Glasgow Rangers, Hibs fully deserved the victory and I'm just glad Glasgow Rangers are competing again.

Again?

Anyway, good on them. Rather anyone that bunch of tax dodging clarts that used to go by the same name, play in the same stadium and have the same following.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Monty on August 13, 2017, 03:38:06 PM
God that 'saying Glasgow Rangers every time' thing doesn't get old does it?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AV5nobs on August 13, 2017, 03:40:18 PM
Paris St Germain must really drive you mad then
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Monty on August 13, 2017, 04:20:42 PM
Paris St Germain must really drive you mad then

Not really, genius, given that it's actually their name.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AV5nobs on August 13, 2017, 07:14:50 PM
Don't worry about Glasgow Rangers then.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: aj2k77 on August 13, 2017, 07:32:58 PM
Glasgow Rangers no longer exist.

Rangers do though, they've never won anything and only finished third in an appallingly shit league though so they must be even worse than we are.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Monty on August 13, 2017, 07:36:30 PM
Don't worry about Glasgow Rangers then.

Well, who the hell knows how that's supposed to make sense, but hey makes a nice change from being racist I guess.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AV5nobs on August 13, 2017, 07:44:50 PM
Just hope Glasgow Rangers try and get a couple of more decent signings in before the transfer window closes.

Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Newby on August 13, 2017, 08:57:18 PM
Just hope Glasgow Rangers try and get a couple of more decent signings in before the transfer window closes.



Let's hope they start by taking Alan Hutton back.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AV5nobs on August 13, 2017, 09:44:24 PM
I think Glasgow Rangers wouldn't even want him.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Tayls_7 on August 14, 2017, 07:36:53 AM
I wish I knew less about Scottish Football but my understanding is that if you support Rangers you are a big fat bald twat with alarmingly high cholesterol and if you support Celtic you're a moany ginger twat.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: lovejoy on August 14, 2017, 12:55:50 PM
Rangers fans lost and have now reported Neil Lennon to the police for celebrating a goal by cupping his ear. If successful presumably most strikers and most supporters will also be questioned by the police.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 14, 2017, 01:21:58 PM
What a pathetic bunch of manbabies Grassgow Rangers fans are. Every time they lose they are trying to get the police, Scottish Government or Interpol involved. They've already launched a petition about the referee, too. Absolute state of them.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: UK Redsox on August 14, 2017, 05:53:53 PM
Ronaldo has been banned for five games for his antics last night
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on August 14, 2017, 06:19:27 PM
Just hope Glasgow Rangers try and get a couple of more decent signings in before the transfer window closes.



Let's hope they start by taking Alan Hutton back.



Quiz question. Which would be quicker? Him getting back to Glasgow or him getting back into position after one of his marauding runs?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 14, 2017, 06:25:25 PM
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 14, 2017, 08:47:45 PM
I know it was only gentle, but how is pushing a referee considered less of an offence than what Bacuna did last season? Especially considering that the five games presumably includes the ban for the actual red card offence.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 14, 2017, 09:29:36 PM
Bacuna was 6 games in total. Not an additional 6 games.

And I don't think that was a dive, or a pen. However as it's Ronaldo it's quite amusing. Check out the dive and play acting by Suarez in the same game. Rolling around and arm up indicating a bad injury, 30 seconds up and fine.

Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 15, 2017, 07:40:01 AM
May only be of interest to CheltenhamLion, but Cheltenham's game against West Ham has been chosen by the telly people. The day after Villa v Wigan.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cheltenhamlion on August 15, 2017, 07:51:52 AM
May only be of interest to CheltenhamLion, but Cheltenham's game against West Ham has been chosen by the telly people. The day after Villa v Wigan.

I presume Villa aren't on TV?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 15, 2017, 08:31:10 AM
No. Sheffield United v Leicester on our day. Pretty boring, I'd have gone Accrington Stanley v West Brom or Blackburn v Burnley for the potential fisticuffs.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: eamonn on August 15, 2017, 04:44:45 PM
I must say I did enjoy the BBC's recreation of the opening day of the season when football began. People were texting in reacting to the games as if they were actually living in '92.

I messaged them something about expecting a big season from Dalian but they didn't publish it unfortunately. He grabbed a late equaliser at Ipswich that day. And today is the first anniversary of his death.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 16, 2017, 12:14:14 AM
For anyone interested, the Beeb will be broadcasting a stream of the South Shields v Bridlington in the FAC 1st qualifying round on their website and iplayer. KO is 12.30 so should be no floodlight problems if Bridlington are winning.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40940857
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 16, 2017, 12:48:35 AM
Come on Bridlington, beat the cheating bastards.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on August 16, 2017, 06:17:34 PM
I must say I did enjoy the BBC's recreation of the opening day of the season when football began. People were texting in reacting to the games as if they were actually living in '92.

I messaged them something about expecting a big season from Dalian but they didn't publish it unfortunately. He grabbed a late equaliser at Ipswich that day. And today is the first anniversary of his death.


I didn't realise it was a year ago. That seems to have gone really quick.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: SoccerHQ on August 16, 2017, 07:56:01 PM
Sunderland 1 up already.

We messed be the most messed up club in world football.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: CT on August 16, 2017, 08:14:39 PM
Sunderland had an absolute basket-case of a pre season, yet they're doing fine.

Maybe it really is just us.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Sexual Ealing on August 16, 2017, 10:39:22 PM
I hadn't realised that we'd loaned out one of our many Shitovs to Astana.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 17, 2017, 12:07:17 AM
Celtic won 5-0, and had 3 shots on target.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: adrenachrome on August 17, 2017, 12:37:27 AM
Celtic won 5-0, and had 3 shots on target.

Weejie fuckers get the job done. Mr. Nobbs will be distaught.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on August 17, 2017, 12:21:38 PM
Sheffield Wednesday let me down for a nice sixfold last night.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: TheMalandro on August 17, 2017, 04:21:24 PM
Blow for Hull, Hernandez out for six months.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: TheMalandro on August 18, 2017, 11:57:14 AM
Come on Burton, put us bottom!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Duncan Shaw on August 18, 2017, 08:24:46 PM
Both of this pair look so much better than we have in out last two games!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Ads on August 18, 2017, 08:26:00 PM
If you say so. I turned off after three minutes as i don't like my eyes bleeding.

Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on August 18, 2017, 08:29:08 PM
Burton look week, their best player last year was Jamie Ward.

Think Blues have looked pretty comfortable for an away game.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Richard E on August 18, 2017, 08:34:54 PM
Burton will be down by Christmas. You can't defy gravity forever.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 18, 2017, 08:46:07 PM
Probably a part of them won't be too fussed going down as next season would be their 3rd at this level and I think that's when they have to go all seater which will screw them.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: VillaAlways on August 18, 2017, 08:55:06 PM
1-1
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: b23 on August 18, 2017, 09:07:27 PM
Blues fans singing " Down with the Villa, you're going down with the Villa "
😂😂😂
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Richard E on August 18, 2017, 09:09:44 PM
Blues fans singing " Down with the Villa, you're going down with the Villa "
😂😂😂

Bit harsh of them to turn on their own players like that so early in the season.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: VillaAlways on August 18, 2017, 09:10:16 PM
Burton winning

Dyer
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Chinchilla Bathhouse on August 18, 2017, 09:14:50 PM
The Noses will be ecstatic with that.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: CT on August 18, 2017, 09:15:01 PM
Blues fans singing " Down with the Villa, you're going down with the Villa "
😂😂😂

Now they can sing it to themselves...
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Newby on August 18, 2017, 09:22:40 PM
Bottom. Fuck sake Villa. Fuck off Bruce.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 18, 2017, 09:23:37 PM
Even we don't lose to Burton.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: DB on August 18, 2017, 09:28:35 PM
I know we are shit at the moment but when you watch other games from this division you realise how cack the football is
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: itbrvilla on August 18, 2017, 09:29:14 PM
I know we are shit at the moment but when you watch other games from this division you realise how crack the football is
You high? I think its dope!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: DB on August 18, 2017, 09:39:46 PM
I know we are shit at the moment but when you watch other games from this division you realise how crack the football is
You high? I think its dope!

Oops.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 18, 2017, 09:52:15 PM
Gueye scored for Everton last night in the Europa League, Hadjuk Split fans took going behind well.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: itbrvilla on August 18, 2017, 09:53:19 PM
Gueye scored for Everton last night in the Europa League, Hadjuk Spliff fans took going behind well.
Fixed
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: BC Villain on August 18, 2017, 10:28:56 PM
The Noses will be ecstatic with that.

Have the Stripys tweeted a photo of the league table yet?  Has Pulis told the worlds press?

Look on the bright side Blues fans.  They can stick the league table in their trophy room
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on August 18, 2017, 10:50:20 PM
Burton look week, their best player last year was Jamie Ward.

Think Blues have looked pretty comfortable for an away game.

Told you Burton would win the league.

As an aside, Vassell looked decent.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: auntiesledd on August 18, 2017, 10:51:59 PM
The Noses will be ecstatic with that.

Have the Stripys tweeted a photo of the league table yet?  Has Pulis told the worlds press?

Look on the bright side Blues fans.  They can stick the league table in their trophy room

Triffick.  ;)

ps I actually laughed when the mighty Burton Albion went 2-1 up tonight. Even though them winning tonight would put our shysters rock-bottom, I still couldn't help myself. Like the Scorpion in Aesop's fable, it's my nature...
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: adrenachrome on August 18, 2017, 10:59:16 PM
It was a very entertaining game and Burton played some great football in the second half. My excuse for watching was that rain stopped play at Edgbaston.

The unwashed would appear to have adopted the Kumbaya dirge, and all I  could hear was "very shit, my lord, very shit".  And indeed they were.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: auntiesledd on August 18, 2017, 11:10:20 PM
It was a very entertaining game and Burton played some great football in the second half. My excuse for watching was that rain stopped play at Edgbaston.

The unwashed would appear to have adopted the Kumbaya dirge, and all I  could hear was "very shit, my lord, very shit".  And indeed they were.

No doubt The Rags will be claiming it was meant for 'fickle Vilers' tuning in to be in awe of their witty, ironic magnificence; and weeping at the thought of the inevitable relegation into obscurity. Bless.  ::)
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Duncan Shaw on August 18, 2017, 11:13:13 PM
In his post match interview Harry proclaimed they will be top 6!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 18, 2017, 11:15:57 PM
In his post match interview Harry proclaimed they will be top 6 for arrests!

Guaranteed.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: SoccerHQ on August 18, 2017, 11:23:14 PM
They have had a very easy start to the season, at least we've played some teams who'll probably be challenging for top 6 (Cardiff and Reading).

SHA have arguably played 4 teams who'll finish bottom half so 4 points is a pretty poor return imo.

No chance they'll be anywhere near top 6.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Newby on August 19, 2017, 02:53:37 PM
Swansea look a poor side. Ayew is still crap.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: curiousorange on August 19, 2017, 05:07:30 PM
Swansea look a poor side. Ayew is still crap.

But, but...our most creative player etc
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: KevinGage on August 19, 2017, 06:26:44 PM
Tatters lost.  Good.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Ads on August 19, 2017, 09:08:26 PM
Boro are looking vulnerable on the road it seems.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Risso on August 19, 2017, 11:39:33 PM
Sean Dyche was on R5 earlier, talking about Jeffery West shoes of all things.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 20, 2017, 01:10:36 AM
I hope somebody told him he's a wanker.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 20, 2017, 02:34:06 AM
At the Chicago Fire game watching Toronto FC. I do love watching Villa legend Michael Bradley. Does everything so well. Always the simple pass, has good size and very strong on the ball. Shame we didn't keep him.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Bren'd on August 20, 2017, 03:18:30 PM
Newcastle look poor. Will come straight down if they don't improve.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Monty on August 20, 2017, 03:21:00 PM
Newcastle look poor. Will come straight down if they don't improve.

And Huddersfield look good, to be fair. Quite solid and moving well off the ball.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: baddowvillans on August 20, 2017, 03:30:24 PM
Huddersfield after games have more than a third of our last premier league total.  Wow - how could we be that shit!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 20, 2017, 03:38:27 PM
Huddersfield after games have more than a third of our last premier league total.  Wow - how could we be that shit!

They have tremendous positive momentum, a very stable, very good managerial and board situation which is stark contrast to what we were. There will always the "beware of how it all ended up for Hull" but Wagner isn't that conman Phil Brown so they should be ok. Good for them
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 20, 2017, 03:40:11 PM
Newcastle look poor. Will come straight down if they don't improve.

And Huddersfield look good, to be fair. Quite solid and moving well off the ball.

Cracking move and goal too.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: spangley1812 on August 20, 2017, 03:48:44 PM
Newcastle look poor. Will come straight down if they don't improve.

And Huddersfield look good, to be fair. Quite solid and moving well off the ball.

Agree about Newcastle.........Gayle hardly scored for Palace in Prem and bringing in a Stoke reserve i.e Joselu is not really the answer
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: FranzBiberkopf on August 20, 2017, 04:07:56 PM
Quote
  They have tremendous positive momentum, a very stable, very good managerial and board situation which is stark contrast to what we were. There will always the "beware of how it all ended up for Hull" but Wagner isn't that conman Phil Brown so they should be ok. Good for them 

Absolutely spot on.

Newcastle have the power struggle going on between Benitez and Ashley to contend with too. They're lucky that Benitez is such a good manager - he's their only hope of staying up. If he walks, they're stuffed good and proper.

Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 20, 2017, 04:09:25 PM
League games at Wembley, load of old bollocks.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: SoccerHQ on August 20, 2017, 07:36:35 PM
Inter Milan-Fiorentina might be worth a watch tonight.

Veretout and Carlos Sanchez in the Viola central midfield.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 20, 2017, 07:42:33 PM
We'll see how a different manager can get a tune out of them.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: SoccerHQ on August 20, 2017, 07:56:00 PM
Sanchez has been decent in Seria A from what I've seen although he played more in a back 3 last season.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: wittonwarrior on August 20, 2017, 08:26:52 PM
would love to draw Spurs away in the league cup or FA cup this season, not only wembley but a realistic chance of winning away
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: DB on August 20, 2017, 08:28:37 PM
Huddersfield after games have more than a third of our last premier league total.  Wow - how could we be that shit!

I think they are playing on gas. The momentum of coming up for the first time in 42 years, they have the have a go attitude. They will get found out sooner or later, like Blackpool. But yeah, Newcastle looked awful.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 20, 2017, 11:07:38 PM
45 years, I think you'll find. I put it down to tactics and their well organised team - to use a Mourinho reference, the "collectivity". You live or die as a team out there on the pitch. Ron Saunders managed it, the great Managers do it, teams of individuals, no matter how talented, fail it.

Wagner has it. It's what makes a great manager. How far he can take them is more up to their collective talents rather than their collective effort. He has them working like a well oiled machine. Respect.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: DB on August 20, 2017, 11:55:38 PM
45 years, I think you'll find. I put it down to tactics and their well organised team - to use a Mourinho reference, the "collectivity". You live or die as a team out there on the pitch. Ron Saunders managed it, the great Managers do it, teams of individuals, no matter how talented, fail it.

Wagner has it. It's what makes a great manager. How far he can take them is more up to their collective talents rather than their collective effort. He has them working like a well oiled machine. Respect.

They may have the tactics and organisation but whether they have the talents remains to be seen, I honestly think they will struggle one the novelty of being in the PL wears off. Wagner a great manager? Good yes, but not great....yet.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ozzjim on August 21, 2017, 12:09:38 AM
Newcastle looked seriously short of quality. Benitez needs a couple of players going forward that can give them a spark.

Hudersfield, like Watford and Burnley before them, look ready to work hard enough to stay above water.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 21, 2017, 12:53:57 AM
Newcastle will conspire to sabotage themselves. They should be backing Benitez and stabilizing in the division. Instead they are fighting again. Benitez will eventually quit and they will spiral down yet again.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: lovejoy on August 21, 2017, 07:24:50 AM
Barcelona are depleted through injuries to Suarez, Pique, Iniesta, but they looked weak tonight. It all rests on Messi's shoulders. A better team than Betis would have got something out of the game. A few fans even had their hankies out for the manager, in the first league game of the season FFS.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 21, 2017, 07:54:58 AM
In fairness, Messi hit the woodwork 3 times himself. Barcelona weren't great but still could have won the game by a larger margin.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: darren woolley on August 21, 2017, 03:47:03 PM
I watched the highlights of the Barca game unlucky not to score more.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on August 21, 2017, 08:33:35 PM
Rooney taking every free kick and corner for Everton very badly.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on August 21, 2017, 08:35:34 PM
And he scores 0-1
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 21, 2017, 08:37:11 PM
ROOOOOOOOONEEEEEEEEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

Sorry, thought I was Clive Tyldesley for a second.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Kevin Dawson on August 21, 2017, 08:41:44 PM
ROOOOOOOOONEEEEEEEEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

Sorry, thought I was Clive Tyldesley for a second.
'That night in Barcelona'.....
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on August 21, 2017, 08:44:55 PM
Yes stop moaning and bugger off Walker
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 21, 2017, 08:45:15 PM
£50m and a walk of shame.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Flamingo Lane on August 21, 2017, 08:48:28 PM
The second yellow card looked very harsh.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on August 21, 2017, 08:50:34 PM
"Come back for highlights and second period adjustments" NBC anchorman😟
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on August 21, 2017, 08:51:37 PM
The second yellow card looked very harsh.
No he fouled him in an aggressive manner fully justified.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 21, 2017, 08:55:25 PM
If was cynical so deserved a yellow, i'd also have booked the Man City player for acting like a big tart.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 21, 2017, 08:56:07 PM
It was childish and stupid to do when you've already been booked. Will he get an extra ban for taking ages to leave the pitch? I've only ever seen that rule applied to a Villa player (Hendrie?)
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on August 21, 2017, 09:05:19 PM
I've just seen pug nosed twunt talking to whisky nose at Citeh.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on August 21, 2017, 09:11:51 PM
If was cynical so deserved a yellow, i'd also have booked the Man City player for acting like a big tart.
Yes I like that. Send off one of their players and book another one at the same time for being close to the incident😊
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Flamingo Lane on August 21, 2017, 09:36:58 PM
I like the claret and blue and white scarves that alot of the City fans are wearing. Very smart.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 21, 2017, 09:40:12 PM
Why are all the Man City fans wearing Villa scarves?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 21, 2017, 09:40:48 PM
Oh FFS, I should've read the post above before posting!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on August 21, 2017, 09:42:36 PM
Everton have been useless against 10 men 1-1 Sterling
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 21, 2017, 09:45:23 PM
You'd think Everton were 2 men down with how much Man City are dominating them.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 21, 2017, 09:49:36 PM
Well that's 1 of them gone. Yet more acting but another stupid challenge when on a yellow.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 21, 2017, 09:50:34 PM
Good challenge? Why can't commentators actually see what happens?

Schneiderlin clearly takes Aguero's foot before the ball
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Lastfootstamper on August 21, 2017, 10:00:40 PM
Because commentators believe in some mythical golden age of not-too-long-ago when men were men, and as long as you got near the ball, that's honest, and it's fine.



23 years and counting since the challenge from behind was outlawed......
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: adrenachrome on August 21, 2017, 11:58:41 PM
The second yellow card looked very harsh.
No he fouled him in an aggressive manner fully justified.

In days of yore, that would have been obstruction at the most. The fact that Walker looked around and the Everton player went down clutching his face convinced the ref that an elbow was used, when it clearly was not.

Anyway, the most annoying sight of the evening was seeing the bovine O'Dreary chewing the cud with Taggart just before the second half.

Also, why to Man Citeh come out to "Hey Jude" by Scouse beat combo the Beatles? Sureely, a Manc band like Herman's Hermits woud be more apposite.

Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Dave on August 22, 2017, 06:04:44 PM
Celtic now 4-1 down. That would be a hilarious turnaround if Astana keep going.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: KRS on August 22, 2017, 06:06:10 PM
Astana are missing chance after chance too...they still need to score another 3 goals in the last 15 minutes.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: KRS on August 22, 2017, 06:09:21 PM
Celtic score to make it 4-2 (7-4 agg). Game over for Astana.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 22, 2017, 06:28:22 PM
Well done Celtic, through 8-4 on aggregate! Let's hope they can can get a decent draw (esp. if in pot 3) and make it though the group stages.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cheltenhamlion on August 22, 2017, 06:41:54 PM
Well done Celtic, through 8-4 on aggregate! Let's hope they can can get a decent draw (esp. if in pot 3) and make it though the group stages.

Fuck the bigoted wankers.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Dave on August 22, 2017, 06:47:49 PM
Well done Celtic, through 8-4 on aggregate! Let's hope they can can get a decent draw (esp. if in pot 3) and make it though the group stages.

Fuck the bigoted wankers.

Would have been far better had Astana finished their comeback. Hilarious, just like Zombie Rangers losing to Luxembourg FC (sic)
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cheltenhamlion on August 22, 2017, 07:25:30 PM
Well done Celtic, through 8-4 on aggregate! Let's hope they can can get a decent draw (esp. if in pot 3) and make it though the group stages.

Fuck the bigoted wankers.

Would have been far better had Astana finished their comeback. Hilarious, just like Zombie Rangers losing to Luxembourg FC (sic)

That was marvellous.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Dave on August 22, 2017, 07:43:44 PM
Things that look weird written down:

"Gareth Barry captains West Brom..."
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 22, 2017, 08:07:48 PM
Well done Celtic, through 8-4 on aggregate! Let's hope they can can get a decent draw (esp. if in pot 3) and make it though the group stages.

Fuck the bigoted wankers.

Bit harsh even if Kazakhstan's human rights record is particularly poor.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: aj2k77 on August 22, 2017, 08:19:18 PM
Things that look weird written down:

"Gareth Barry captains West Brom..."

What a shit ending to a good career. Captaining a two bob, defensive, long ball, boring, giant plodder nothing club.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Nev on August 22, 2017, 08:38:17 PM
Bacuna has scored for Reading. Well there's a thing.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: four fornicholl on August 22, 2017, 08:38:55 PM
Things that look weird written down:

"Gareth Barry captains West Brom..."

What a shit ending to a good career. Captaining a two bob, defensive, long ball, boring, giant plodder nothing club.
Bacuna scores, that's weird.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on August 23, 2017, 09:30:49 PM
Looks as though Southampton have decided to opt out of the Caribbean cup. Wolves winning 1-0.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Villa in Denmark on August 23, 2017, 09:37:52 PM
FC Copenhagen have just fucked up their CL qualifier against Qarabac from Azerbaijan.
Won 2-1 but gone out on away goals rule.


What a shame.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: VillaAlways on August 23, 2017, 09:39:26 PM
Looks as though Southampton have decided to opt out of the Caribbean cup. Wolves winning 1-0.
0-2 now
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: DB on August 23, 2017, 10:31:47 PM
Geordies good start to the season continues.
I can see Rafa walking if he doesn't get any players in.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Percy McCarthy on August 24, 2017, 05:10:34 AM
Well done Celtic, through 8-4 on aggregate! Let's hope they can can get a decent draw (esp. if in pot 3) and make it though the group stages.

Fuck the bigoted wankers.

Donald Trump posts on H&V?!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: passitsideways on August 24, 2017, 06:55:02 AM
Apparently our Ash wasn't having it with an idiot pitch invader last night during the Burnley-Blackburn game.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cheltenhamlion on August 24, 2017, 08:34:25 AM
Well done Celtic, through 8-4 on aggregate! Let's hope they can can get a decent draw (esp. if in pot 3) and make it though the group stages.

Fuck the bigoted wankers.

Donald Trump posts on H&V?!

They are just as bad as the other lot in Glasgow but I really can't be arsed with going round Celtic and Rangers, nor Northern Ireland politics/religion for the 10000th time, so will leave that debate there.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 24, 2017, 08:36:24 AM
Celtic have some twattish supporters but to suggest that they are "just as bad" is untrue, IMO. Celtic didn't refuse to pick a Protestant for nearly a century.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cheltenhamlion on August 24, 2017, 08:39:06 AM
Celtic have some twattish supporters but to suggest that they are "just as bad" is untrue, IMO. Celtic didn't refuse to pick a Protestant for nearly a century.

What part of leaving that debate alone did you miss? It only ends up in bitter arguments on here and is best avoided.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 24, 2017, 09:34:10 AM
You said you were leaving the debate, I didn't say I was.

They're both twats anyway. Clyde would obviously better either of them.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Percy McCarthy on August 24, 2017, 12:29:55 PM
Well done Celtic, through 8-4 on aggregate! Let's hope they can can get a decent draw (esp. if in pot 3) and make it though the group stages.

Fuck the bigoted wankers.

Donald Trump posts on H&V?!

They are just as bad as the other lot in Glasgow but I really can't be arsed with going round Celtic and Rangers, nor Northern Ireland politics/religion for the 10000th time, so will leave that debate there.

I've been to about twenty Old Firm games, the first few as a neutral. After a fair few experiences as an English Protestant up there, staying all weekend every time, I went with the team whose fans showed absolutely no bigotry at all, rather than those whose every fibre is infected with it.

As I say, it's the Donald Trump position to think the anti-bigots are as bad as the bigots. Leave it if you want, rather than expose further ignorance.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Chris Jameson on August 24, 2017, 12:57:00 PM
Who do people like the best, Nirvana or Foo Fighters?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Percy McCarthy on August 24, 2017, 01:46:47 PM
Who do people like the best, Nirvana or Foo Fighters?

I have no strong feelings on either. How about Rock Against Racism versus the KKK? Both as bad as each other?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 24, 2017, 01:51:49 PM
The KKK took my baby away.

Twats.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Chris Jameson on August 24, 2017, 05:13:26 PM
Blur or Oasis?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: UK Redsox on August 24, 2017, 06:29:10 PM
Blur or Oasis?

Owls or Gibbons
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: UK Redsox on August 24, 2017, 06:31:06 PM
Have fun fighting for a place in the Europa league Celtic & Spurs

Newton Heath basically get a bye into the knockout stages
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Percy McCarthy on August 24, 2017, 07:07:57 PM
Adolfo Hitler or Dr Martin Luther King?

Oppressed or oppressors? That's the one that really causes confusion for some.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Chris Jameson on August 24, 2017, 07:17:41 PM
I don't follow Scottish football at all but do supporters up there also follow either Liverpool or Everton or Man City or United?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Comrade Blitz on August 24, 2017, 07:19:36 PM
I don't follow Scottish football at all but do supporters up there also follow either Liverpool or Everton or Man City or United?

Celtic & Man Utd is a thing
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Chris Jameson on August 24, 2017, 07:25:41 PM
Celtic and Liverpool also seem to have a thing going on.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 24, 2017, 07:36:08 PM
That puts me off Celtic. Mind you I don't like Aberdeen anymore since they started voting Tory. Who else is there? Hibs seem a good bunch of lads and really piss Sevco off so I hope they win it.

They won't, obviously.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: four fornicholl on August 24, 2017, 07:42:39 PM
Hibs are my team, in the days before readily available replica kits, if I wanted to play as a Scottish team I donned my white school shirt and a green wooly tanktop.
And that Sunshine on Leith rendition in 16  is about as good a football song as you'll ever hear.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Comrade Blitz on August 24, 2017, 08:16:21 PM
"Our Day Will Come" was the Celtic/ManU fanzine
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Alinushavfc on August 24, 2017, 08:53:24 PM
Bye bye Celtic.

Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Chris Jameson on August 24, 2017, 09:01:01 PM
Bay City Rollers or Slik?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cheltenhamlion on August 24, 2017, 09:09:26 PM
Well done Celtic, through 8-4 on aggregate! Let's hope they can can get a decent draw (esp. if in pot 3) and make it though the group stages.

Fuck the bigoted wankers.

Donald Trump posts on H&V?!

They are just as bad as the other lot in Glasgow but I really can't be arsed with going round Celtic and Rangers, nor Northern Ireland politics/religion for the 10000th time, so will leave that debate there.

I've been to about twenty Old Firm games, the first few as a neutral. After a fair few experiences as an English Protestant up there, staying all weekend every time, I went with the team whose fans showed absolutely no bigotry at all, rather than those whose every fibre is infected with it.

As I say, it's the Donald Trump position to think the anti-bigots are as bad as the bigots. Leave it if you want, rather than expose further ignorance.

Ignorance? Piss off. What if I also have experience up there of games? Or happen to have a staunch Celtic supporting Chap in my family who is a top bloke but his family are horrific? Or maybe gotten the shit kicked out of me for being English on a night out in Glasgow by Celtic fans? Not all of those are true, but it might mean my experience is different to yours, no? Why do you have to take a position on absolutely everything where there is black or white with no shades of grey inbetween? 

You are expecting mean to change my view because you have decided which side are the right ones and I am a shit because it isn't who you have decided the good guys are.

You have been around here a long time so will know perfectly well that I can't stand either old firm team. Why? Because I don't like how they have happily allowed The Troubles in Northern Ireland to be a huge catalyst in lining their pockets. For allowing sectarian singing to go on unabated for decades, regardless of the trouble it causes, because it isn't good for business to say anything about it.

Essentially, you are asking me to pick the least worst. Like picking between Blues and Olbiyun. Or Hitler v Stalin. Or Jozef Fritzl and David O' Leary. I don't want to pick a least worst when I can't stand either of them. Why should my holiday in Tenerife be interrupted by a clown with a flute and a bunch of c***s in Orange sashs?  Or some other dicks wearing balaclavas, with replica guns, threatening tourists just because the pair of wankers are playing each other at football. In Scotland. That afternoon?

What you seem to struggle with is the notion it is not always good versus evil. Sometimes it might be evil versus more evil. And that people have different definitions of evil. On a glib football level you will never understand why I hate Gloucester City more than Blues. And I detest both of them.

You say you did lots as a neutral at the old firm games and picked a side based on that. Well it seems you were radicalised. From the position of "take 'em as a find 'em" you once posted here your greatest hero in life is Bobby Sands.

Now I am actually with you on the self determination point for the Irish. I am not ever going to agree that blowing up innocent people is the way to resolve it and Sands was a murderous twat. Just like fuckers like Adair on the other side. Or c***s like Paisley, who might have played nice with McGuinness at the end, but has plenty of blood on his hands for the positions he took over donkeys years.

You say you want a debate but you don't.  You just want to play at that, whilst ignoring the experiences of anyone else even though yours are always used as justification for your view and then persistently try to bend parts of the argument to try to prove yourself right.

Someone gets pissed off with Dianne Abbott and it's because they are racist or a misogynst. Even if all of their posting history says otherwise. Even if what she might have said would have you out on the barricades with me if a white politician had said it.   But it doesn't fit your point so let's change the argument.  Rather like your utterly fucking ridiculous post comparing (Spanish) Hitler and MLK that followed this.

Don't worry. I don't expect you to answer anything about your being intolerant and refusing to see that anyone else might have a different view but founded in their own experience. It isn't how you roll is it.

I look forward to a response that ignores most of this post. Rather like the glib way you brush off bemoaning foreigners until the great switch.

Someone calls you out on slagging foreigners pre Brexit because it is hitting your pocket? People who give you a pass based on your previous posting history (and this is important to me and this particular row), that you might want to rethink that? They were pricks at the time but now you have done a 180 degree turn and anyone that agreed with you then is now an idiot, a racist, ad nauseum.

Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: rogfromb6 on August 24, 2017, 09:13:25 PM
That was some goal by Gulfi Sigurdsson.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Pat McMahon on August 24, 2017, 09:20:01 PM
Hibs are my team, in the days before readily available replica kits, if I wanted to play as a Scottish team I donned my white school shirt and a green wooly tanktop.
And that Sunshine on Leith rendition in 16  is about as good a football song as you'll ever hear.


Our junior school team kit in the 70s was the Hibs kit - old school green and white with white round collar. I loved it.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Richard E on August 24, 2017, 09:21:41 PM
Hearts because they're sort of Villa colours, and they aren't Rangers or Celtic.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cheltenhamlion on August 24, 2017, 09:25:16 PM
Alloa are my Scottish team by the way.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Lastfootstamper on August 24, 2017, 10:05:43 PM
The Ibrox Hotel was the worst digs I've ever stopped in. And I've slept in a tent for work.

In Dundee years back, pub after work, football on, double header. England v Netherlands, 2-2 I think. Dutch scored, pub's gone fucking mental. They then get dismantled by Carew for about 4, they might as well have been showing some show jumping, such was the level of engagement.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Percy McCarthy on August 24, 2017, 10:29:54 PM
Well done Celtic, through 8-4 on aggregate! Let's hope they can can get a decent draw (esp. if in pot 3) and make it though the group stages.

Fuck the bigoted wankers.

Donald Trump posts on H&V?!

They are just as bad as the other lot in Glasgow but I really can't be arsed with going round Celtic and Rangers, nor Northern Ireland politics/religion for the 10000th time, so will leave that debate there.

I've been to about twenty Old Firm games, the first few as a neutral. After a fair few experiences as an English Protestant up there, staying all weekend every time, I went with the team whose fans showed absolutely no bigotry at all, rather than those whose every fibre is infected with it.

As I say, it's the Donald Trump position to think the anti-bigots are as bad as the bigots. Leave it if you want, rather than expose further ignorance.

Ignorance? Piss off. What if I also have experience up there of games? Or happen to have a staunch Celtic supporting Chap in my family who is a top bloke but his family are horrific? Or maybe gotten the shit kicked out of me for being English on a night out in Glasgow by Celtic fans? Not all of those are true, but it might mean my experience is different to yours, no? Why do you have to take a position on absolutely everything where there is black or white with no shades of grey inbetween? 

You are expecting mean to change my view because you have decided which side are the right ones and I am a shit because it isn't who you have decided the good guys are.

You have been around here a long time so will know perfectly well that I can't stand either old firm team. Why? Because I don't like how they have happily allowed The Troubles in Northern Ireland to be a huge catalyst in lining their pockets. For allowing sectarian singing to go on unabated for decades, regardless of the trouble it causes, because it isn't good for business to say anything about it.

Essentially, you are asking me to pick the least worst. Like picking between Blues and Olbiyun. Or Hitler v Stalin. Or Jozef Fritzl and David O' Leary. I don't want to pick a least worst when I can't stand either of them. Why should my holiday in Tenerife be interrupted by a clown with a flute and a bunch of c***s in Orange sashs?  Or some other dicks wearing balaclavas, with replica guns, threatening tourists just because the pair of wankers are playing each other at football. In Scotland. That afternoon?

What you seem to struggle with is the notion it is not always good versus evil. Sometimes it might be evil versus more evil. And that people have different definitions of evil. On a glib football level you will never understand why I hate Gloucester City more than Blues. And I detest both of them.

You say you did lots as a neutral at the old firm games and picked a side based on that. Well it seems you were radicalised. From the position of "take 'em as a find 'em" you once posted here your greatest hero in life is Bobby Sands.

Now I am actually with you on the self determination point for the Irish. I am not ever going to agree that blowing up innocent people is the way to resolve it and Sands was a murderous twat. Just like fuckers like Adair on the other side. Or c***s like Paisley, who might have played nice with McGuinness at the end, but has plenty of blood on his hands for the positions he took over donkeys years.

You say you want a debate but you don't.  You just want to play at that, whilst ignoring the experiences of anyone else even though yours are always used as justification for your view and then persistently try to bend parts of the argument to try to prove yourself right.

Someone gets pissed off with Dianne Abbott and it's because they are racist or a misogynst. Even if all of their posting history says otherwise. Even if what she might have said would have you out on the barricades with me if a white politician had said it.   But it doesn't fit your point so let's change the argument.  Rather like your utterly fucking ridiculous post comparing (Spanish) Hitler and MLK that followed this.

Don't worry. I don't expect you to answer anything about your being intolerant and refusing to see that anyone else might have a different view but founded in their own experience. It isn't how you roll is it.

I look forward to a response that ignores most of this post. Rather like the glib way you brush off bemoaning foreigners until the great switch.

Someone calls you out on slagging foreigners pre Brexit because it is hitting your pocket? People who give you a pass based on your previous posting history (and this is important to me and this particular row), that you might want to rethink that? They were pricks at the time but now you have done a 180 degree turn and anyone that agreed with you then is now an idiot, a racist, ad nauseum.

Do you still want that woman from the Canary burned alive or something?

You really post some hateful shit.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Percy McCarthy on August 24, 2017, 10:33:49 PM
Nice 'leaving it there' BTW.

Are you sure it was only because you were English? Might have been because you droned on a bit.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 24, 2017, 10:35:13 PM
And that wraps it up for the night.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on August 24, 2017, 10:43:46 PM
Oh hang on not done yet....on second thought yes all done😂
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Percy McCarthy on August 25, 2017, 01:37:47 PM
Sorry about all that. Most unseemly.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: UK Redsox on August 25, 2017, 02:20:19 PM
Hibs are my team, in the days before readily available replica kits, if I wanted to play as a Scottish team I donned my white school shirt and a green wooly tanktop.
And that Sunshine on Leith rendition in 16  is about as good a football song as you'll ever hear.


Our junior school team kit in the 70s was the Hibs kit - old school green and white with white round collar. I loved it.

Our primary school kit was very Villa-esque

https://www.sungreen.co.uk/Lydney-Glos/C-of-E-Football-team-1979.htm
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: in exile on August 25, 2017, 02:46:13 PM
Hibs are my team, in the days before readily available replica kits, if I wanted to play as a Scottish team I donned my white school shirt and a green wooly tanktop.
And that Sunshine on Leith rendition in 16  is about as good a football song as you'll ever hear.


Our junior school team kit in the 70s was the Hibs kit - old school green and white with white round collar. I loved it.

Our primary school kit was very Villa-esque

https://www.sungreen.co.uk/Lydney-Glos/C-of-E-Football-team-1979.htm

Are you on that picture?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Comrade Blitz on August 25, 2017, 02:46:36 PM
Our primary school kit was very Villa-esque

https://www.sungreen.co.uk/Lydney-Glos/C-of-E-Football-team-1979.htm

Which one are you?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 25, 2017, 02:50:29 PM
He is indeed!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 25, 2017, 02:50:50 PM
Maybe we should play 'Spot the Sox'
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: UK Redsox on August 25, 2017, 02:56:45 PM
Sungreen's website appears to be down. Have you lot crashed it ? :)

EDIT - It's back now
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Comrade Blitz on August 25, 2017, 02:56:56 PM
One of the gingers?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: UK Redsox on August 25, 2017, 02:58:06 PM
One of the gingers?

Nope

(http://geekandsundry.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/819-Q0MvYUL._SL1500_-970x545.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 25, 2017, 02:59:47 PM
He's the one with the beard!  ;D
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ChicagoLion on August 25, 2017, 04:08:45 PM
Clutterbuck, what a name.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on August 25, 2017, 05:13:01 PM
Clutterbuck, what a name.

I think that's almost as good as Slartibartfast.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: curiousorange on August 25, 2017, 07:44:24 PM
Andrew Lincoln from 'The Walking Dead' is really called Andrew Clutterbuck.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Stu on August 26, 2017, 02:34:16 PM
Mike Dean fucked up the Bournemouth - Man City game. Not for City, like, they managed to get the winner in the 8th minute of stoppage time.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: lovejoy on August 26, 2017, 03:50:11 PM
Alloa are my Scottish team by the way.
Is that last post what you call 'leaving it"?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: VillaAlways on August 26, 2017, 04:43:47 PM
Norwich have had 4 put past them for the second week running

Oh and Blues are losing 2-0 at home to Reading
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Axl Rose on August 26, 2017, 04:46:17 PM
Well done Reading.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: VillaAlways on August 26, 2017, 04:48:55 PM
I think Bilic may be available  soon
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on August 26, 2017, 04:58:41 PM
Norwich have had 4 put past them for the second week running
Yes by a promoted team from League 1 so our win was not that remarkable specially as they scored twice.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on August 26, 2017, 04:59:51 PM
So Walsall came back from 3-0 down to 3-3?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Matt Collins on August 26, 2017, 05:04:28 PM
Cardiff apart there's very little consistent strong performers in this league

I'm confident we'll be in the mix for promotion. Less confident it will be top two though
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on August 26, 2017, 05:11:36 PM
I hope you are right Matt. I am not confident at all unless we find some rhythm.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: eric woolban woolban on August 26, 2017, 05:17:10 PM
Norwich have had 4 put past them for the second week running

Oh and Blues are losing 2-0 at home to Reading
Blues fans boycotting the local library next week on protest.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: curiousorange on August 26, 2017, 05:23:27 PM
Norwich have had 4 put past them for the second week running

Oh and Blues are losing 2-0 at home to Reading
Blues fans boycotting the local library next week on protest.

Why change the habit of a lifetime?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: steamer on August 26, 2017, 06:09:47 PM
Harry weaving his magic
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Alinushavfc on August 26, 2017, 06:16:45 PM
The unwashed in green and white got lucky today.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: TopDeck113 on August 26, 2017, 06:23:21 PM
Norwich have had 4 put past them for the second week running

Oh and Blues are losing 2-0 at home to Reading
Blues fans boycotting the local library next week on protest.

Very good.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on August 26, 2017, 06:27:14 PM
Hibs are my team, in the days before readily available replica kits, if I wanted to play as a Scottish team I donned my white school shirt and a green wooly tanktop.
And that Sunshine on Leith rendition in 16  is about as good a football song as you'll ever hear.



Our junior school team kit in the 70s was the Hibs kit - old school green and white with white round collar. I loved it.

Our school kit had white Bukta shirts, which ended up as pink Bukta shirts after one of the kids' moms washed them with something red.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Percy McCarthy on August 26, 2017, 07:24:38 PM
Norwich have had 4 put past them for the second week running

Oh and Blues are losing 2-0 at home to Reading
Blues fans boycotting the local library next week on protest.

Very good.

How will we know?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 26, 2017, 07:35:13 PM
Coventry Sphinx 2-0 Bromsgrove Sporting.

Unbeaten league run comes to an end, just the 40 unbeaten. Sphinx are a dirty/cynical side and we couldn't cope first half, hardly had a sniff and went 1 down, then had our keeper sent off late in the first half, harshly as it should have been a pen and yellow but the plum gave a freekick and a red. With no sub keeper I figured we'd take a pasting second half but were the better side but couldn't break them down. Very late on we got a highly dubious penalty, which was put wide and they scored a second at the death. As we walked to the car we could hear their players celebrating like they'd won a cup, which is something our players need to remember.

Also found out one of better players, who had vanished and no one was too sure why apart from a story he was back home in Somalia with family, is actually banged up for his part in a credit card fraud, one of the others was found guilty of smuggling people for profit. Although our now ex player was the only one to plead not guilty to the fraud charge, he's now inside for a year.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Lizz on August 26, 2017, 08:08:32 PM
Just seen Robbie Savage on BT Sport. What a frigging hair style. He must use more hair spray than Trump.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 26, 2017, 08:44:06 PM
Someone isn't happy...

"It was not the team I wanted to pick today".

"We have struggled to bring in players in certain areas of the side. To be honest we have been outplayed in every game."

"I've asked for certain people who would have brought in the experience and quality we require. Unfortunately we have not been able to get them over the line."

"This is why I need to bring in new players. It has been difficult as I've discovered. I've been chasing Stuart Downing from Middlesbrough for four months without any success."
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: LukeJames on August 26, 2017, 08:46:30 PM
Fuck me hes changed his tune from last weeks guarantee of a top 6 finish.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: VILLA MOLE on August 26, 2017, 08:47:15 PM
Someone isn't happy...

"It was not the team I wanted to pick today".

"We have struggled to bring in players in certain areas of the side. To be honest we have been outplayed in every game."

"I've asked for certain people who would have brought in the experience and quality we require. Unfortunately we have not been able to get them over the line."

"This is why I need to bring in new players. It has been difficult as I've discovered. I've been chasing Stuart Downing from Middlesbrough for four months without any success."


someone is fed up of coming up that A34 everyday , its not traffic or triffic
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: The Man With A Stick on August 26, 2017, 09:18:20 PM
Quote
I've been chasing Stuart Downing from Middlesbrough for four months without any success."

Now I'm no Columbo, but maybe he's waiting for a better offer.  I've heard Subway are always taking on new staff.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ChicagoLion on August 26, 2017, 11:01:10 PM
Quote
I've been chasing Stuart Downing from Middlesbrough for four months without any success."

Now I'm no Columbo, but maybe he's waiting for a better offer.  I've heard Subway are always taking on new staff.
Downing is do slow these days I am surprised he hasn't caught him.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on August 27, 2017, 10:00:36 AM
From my experience you will find Downing hiding on the pitch somewhere next time he is selected to play that's where Arry needs to look.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Chris Jameson on August 27, 2017, 10:25:01 AM
Think 'Arry's knee will start playing up again soon.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Richard E on August 27, 2017, 11:01:07 AM
Think 'Arry's knee will start playing up again soon.

His financial adviser is missing being taken for walkies as well.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: passport1 on August 27, 2017, 02:13:57 PM
The Albion game against Stoke all has the atmosphere of a village fete.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: richtheholtender on August 27, 2017, 02:23:23 PM
The Albion game against Stoke all has the atmosphere of a village fete.


Sky could have had Chelsea v Everton and yet pick WBA v Stoke?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on August 27, 2017, 02:31:56 PM
The Albion game against Stoke all has the atmosphere of a village fete.


Sky could have had Chelsea v Everton and yet pick WBA v Stoke?

Have to show every top flight team so many times. So trying to get the dull sides both out of the way in one go. I suppose there is a vague claim of it being a derby (even though it isn't).
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: DB on August 27, 2017, 02:46:36 PM
The Albion game against Stoke all has the atmosphere of a village fete.

All I can hear is Tiny Penis screaming. Probably to tell his players under no circumstances to entertain. Awful match.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Tony Erdington on August 27, 2017, 02:50:11 PM
The Albion game against Stoke all has the atmosphere of a village fete.


Sky could have had Chelsea v Everton and yet pick WBA v Stoke?

Have to show every top flight team so many times. So trying to get the dull sides both out of the way in one go. I suppose there is a vague claim of it being a derby (even though it isn't).



Very quiet, even though the baggies have just scored.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: VILLA MOLE on August 27, 2017, 02:57:55 PM
70 minutes and time wasting already
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: saunders_heroes on August 27, 2017, 03:20:42 PM
Ends up 1-1 at the Baggies, and honestly it's like watching paint dry with anything connected to that lot. No wonder the fans sound so bored.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Clampy on August 27, 2017, 03:23:43 PM
Ends up 1-1 at the Baggies, and honestly it's like watching paint dry with anything connected to that lot. No wonder the fans sound so bored.

And people say Bruce's football is negative?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: garyshawsknee on August 27, 2017, 03:28:56 PM
Ends up 1-1 at the Baggies, and honestly it's like watching paint dry with anything connected to that lot. No wonder the fans sound so bored.

And people say Bruce's football is negative?

There must be something in the water in the West Midlands. 
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: jwarry on August 27, 2017, 03:32:49 PM
Didn't realise the Tesco's had signed Burke.  Thats the kind of signing I would like down VP, even at £15m or whatever it was they paid for him.  They will get their money back
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AVH87 on August 27, 2017, 03:39:08 PM
Only 22k at Albion too.

I remember the talk when we went down being 'we have the chance to attract new fans as the only prem club in the West Midlands'.

It seems after all that people don't want to go to a shittip of a stadium and watch a team set up by the most boring manager in the league.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 27, 2017, 03:46:55 PM
Welbeck starts instead of Lacazette!

Is Wenger trolling the contributors to Arsenal Fan TV ?!!!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: itbrvilla on August 27, 2017, 04:21:37 PM
Ends up 1-1 at the Baggies, and honestly it's like watching paint dry with anything connected to that lot. No wonder the fans sound so bored.
Ray Houghton and the other chap on Talksport were scathing about both of them being in their comfort zone after 3 games.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: VillaAlways on August 27, 2017, 04:40:55 PM
Fantastic goal by Mane to make it 2-0. Arsenal being battered by Liverpool
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: LukeJames on August 27, 2017, 04:47:51 PM
Didn't realise the Tesco's had signed Burke.  Thats the kind of signing I would like down VP, even at £15m or whatever it was they paid for him.  They will get their money back

Pulis signing a technical attacking midfielder is like a Vegan slapping the bacon on the grill.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 27, 2017, 04:57:31 PM
In fairness, anyone who puts bacon on the grill is scum. Subhuman scum.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Deano's Mullet on August 27, 2017, 05:15:40 PM
3-0 Liverpool. Arsenal in crisis again.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: LukeJames on August 27, 2017, 05:17:12 PM
In fairness, anyone who puts bacon on the grill is scum. Subhuman scum.
Hello Tone.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Chris Jameson on August 27, 2017, 05:24:12 PM
I've only just noticed Ozil is playing, he's the invisible man each time I see an Arsenal match.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Meanwood Villa on August 27, 2017, 05:25:00 PM
The Wenger contract extension is looking a daft decision right now.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Monty on August 27, 2017, 05:45:00 PM
There was a time a few years ago when most people assumed Wenger was stepping down and Klopp was widely supposed to be replacing him. Going down the other route is looking like a great decision today.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: wittonwarrior on August 27, 2017, 05:53:34 PM
Well not much  has happened   since our enforced absence from the so called premiership, Liverpool continue to beat Arsenal, Everton despite one or two signings are never going to challenge the top 4, Tescos continue to play anti football and Burnley are merely there to make the numbers up.  Ps Newcastle are still shit. 

There is some merit in actually enjoying ourselves in what I call Div 2.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: LukeJames on August 27, 2017, 05:54:51 PM

There is some merit in actually enjoying ourselves in what I call Div 2.

Now we just need to get a manager that can make us enjoy ourselves.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on August 27, 2017, 05:59:18 PM
Cracking finish by Chris Wood
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Richard E on August 27, 2017, 06:08:11 PM
Bloody typical that the one time Arsenal bother to turn up is against us at Wembley.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 27, 2017, 06:12:51 PM
Arsenal are an absolute shambles! Wenger has gone on about 6 years too long
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: four fornicholl on August 27, 2017, 06:16:04 PM
Gary Neville is behaving like a twat this afternoon, puerile comments.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: LukeJames on August 27, 2017, 06:16:14 PM
He's done so much for arsenal, putting a style of play in place and winning multiple trophies. He should of gone a couple of years ago though at which point his legacy would have been safe. I feel its going to end bitter now.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Villa Lew on August 27, 2017, 06:18:57 PM
Bloody typical that the one time Arsenal bother to turn up is against us at Wembley.
Today's Arsenal team would still have beaten us easily, we were that abysmal that day.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: VILLA MOLE on August 27, 2017, 06:20:17 PM
Bloody typical that the one time Arsenal bother to turn up is against us at Wembley.

I don't think they had to get out of 3rd gear to beat us that day unfortunately
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 27, 2017, 06:23:24 PM
Gary Neville is behaving like a twat this afternoon, puerile comments.

He was spot on with them though
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: four fornicholl on August 27, 2017, 06:33:19 PM
Gary Neville is behaving like a twat this afternoon, puerile comments.

He was spot on with them though
He would never of slagged Manu like that though, and if it had been the Villa my foot would of been through the telly, too biased for me.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: manic-road on August 27, 2017, 06:40:59 PM
Gary Neville is behaving like a twat this afternoon, puerile comments.

He was spot on with them though
He would never of slagged Manu like that though, and if it had been the Villa my foot would of been through the telly, too biased for me.

Can't think of what to disagree with anything he said.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: four fornicholl on August 27, 2017, 06:43:19 PM
Gary Neville is behaving like a twat this afternoon, puerile comments.

He was spot on with them though
He would never of slagged Manu like that though, and if it had been the Villa my foot would of been through the telly, too biased for me.

Can't think of what to disagree with anything he said.
It was more how he was creaming himself during the game.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 27, 2017, 06:43:26 PM
Playing at Wembley could really screw Spurs. They don't look comfortable at all. Expect Liverpool to throw away a good win with a defeat to a mediocre side next time up.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 27, 2017, 06:50:53 PM
For how utterly horrendous Arsenal were, Liverpool do play some really exciting stuff. Considering the prices of players at the moment, Salah seems an absolute bargain
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: passport1 on August 27, 2017, 06:54:21 PM
Gary Neville is behaving like a twat this afternoon, puerile comments.

He was spot on with them though
He would never of slagged Manu like that though, and if it had been the Villa my foot would of been through the telly, too biased for me.

Can't think of what to disagree with anything he said.
It was more how he was creaming himself during the game.

Not difficult to see why he lasted about 45 mins in management.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Villa75 on August 27, 2017, 06:55:26 PM
Gary Neville is behaving like a twat this afternoon, puerile comments.

He was spot on with them though
He would never of slagged Manu like that though, and if it had been the Villa my foot would of been through the telly, too biased for me.

Agreed.

He absolutely detests Arsenal, and loves to show it.

Sky would never entertain someone who was so obviously a Man Utd hater.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: LukeJames on August 27, 2017, 07:03:00 PM
Theres too many terrible pundits who sit on the fence and say the bare minimum to get by, I have no problem with Nevilles style.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Villa Lew on August 27, 2017, 07:07:07 PM
Gary Neville is behaving like a twat this afternoon, puerile comments.

He was spot on with them though
He would never of slagged Manu like that though, and if it had been the Villa my foot would of been through the telly, too biased for me.

Agreed.

He absolutely detests Arsenal, and loves to show it.

Sky would never entertain someone who was so obviously a Man Utd hater.
Like Jamie Carragher.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: garyshawsknee on August 27, 2017, 07:15:06 PM
I thought he was bang on today, he sounded like an angry Arsenal fan to me. If he hates them so much he would have seemed more smug and enjoyed their performance.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Chris Jameson on August 27, 2017, 07:21:04 PM
Gary Neville is behaving like a twat this afternoon, puerile comments.

He was spot on with them though
He would never of slagged Manu like that though, and if it had been the Villa my foot would of been through the telly, too biased for me.

I find Neville very refreshing, not afraid to upset people, is insightful and I've heard him criticise Man United. He's streets ahead of every other pundit.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Villa75 on August 27, 2017, 07:22:37 PM
Theres too many terrible pundits who sit on the fence and say the bare minimum to get by, I have no problem with Nevilles style.

That would be fine, if he 'told it like it is' when Man Utd are shite - which they have been fairly recently - but he's not. I've heard him criticise Man Utd (through gritted teeth), but it always has a bunch of excuses as to why they are poor.

I think he particularly hates the German players, as they are targeted the most. Perhaps he's jealous of their World Cup winning medals?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: four fornicholl on August 27, 2017, 07:27:50 PM
Gary Neville is behaving like a twat this afternoon, puerile comments.

He was spot on with them though
He would never of slagged Manu like that though, and if it had been the Villa my foot would of been through the telly, too biased for me.

I find Neville very refreshing, not afraid to upset people, is insightful and I've heard him criticise Man United. He's streets ahead of every other pundit.
Difference of opinion, I thought he wittered on like a real twat today, slagging Arsenal at every opportunity.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: eric woolban woolban on August 27, 2017, 08:37:06 PM
I couldn't disagree with anything  Neville said and it was a refreshing change seeing somebody not sitting on the fence.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: SamTheMouse on August 27, 2017, 08:39:53 PM
Watching Monaco against Marseille, and Amavi is having an absolute shocker.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: john e on August 27, 2017, 08:55:10 PM
Wenger has stayed to long at Arsenal he's still a good manager but he needs a new challenge now

maybe a big historic club with a fine tradition similar to that of Arsenal who have won trophies in the past but have fallen on hard times now and need a football man to come and rebuild them again to their former greatness
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on August 27, 2017, 10:56:00 PM
I've only just noticed Ozil is playing, he's the invisible man each time I see an Arsenal match.
Apparently you can see his eyes from the moon but his team mates lose him in grass.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on August 27, 2017, 10:58:40 PM
Theres too many terrible pundits who sit on the fence and say the bare minimum to get by, I have no problem with Nevilles style.
He is million times better than the useless Michael Owen.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on August 27, 2017, 10:59:41 PM
The Wenger contract extension is looking a daft decision right now.
Perfectly good decision IMO.😀
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Chris Jameson on August 28, 2017, 09:04:13 AM
Gary Neville is behaving like a twat this afternoon, puerile comments.

He was spot on with them though
He would never of slagged Manu like that though, and if it had been the Villa my foot would of been through the telly, too biased for me.

I find Neville very refreshing, not afraid to upset people, is insightful and I've heard him criticise Man United. He's streets ahead of every other pundit.
Difference of opinion, I thought he wittered on like a real twat today, slagging Arsenal at every opportunity.

What was there about the Arsenal 'performance' that didn't deserve criticising?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: aj2k77 on August 28, 2017, 09:29:07 AM
Gary Neville is behaving like a twat this afternoon, puerile comments.

He was spot on with them though
He would never of slagged Manu like that though, and if it had been the Villa my foot would of been through the telly, too biased for me.

I find Neville very refreshing, not afraid to upset people, is insightful and I've heard him criticise Man United. He's streets ahead of every other pundit.
Difference of opinion, I thought he wittered on like a real twat today, slagging Arsenal at every opportunity.

What was there about the Arsenal 'performance' that didn't deserve criticising?

It gives us another chance to see hilarious Arse fans throwing dummies out of their prams en masse?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ChicagoLion on August 28, 2017, 01:04:46 PM
It shows that you can not build a team on players that are not committed to the club.
Not that I fel sorry for Arsenal,fuck em.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: four fornicholl on August 28, 2017, 07:55:18 PM
Gary Neville is behaving like a twat this afternoon, puerile comments.

He was spot on with them though
He would never of slagged Manu like that though, and if it had been the Villa my foot would of been through the telly, too biased for me.

I find Neville very refreshing, not afraid to upset people, is insightful and I've heard him criticise Man United. He's streets ahead of every other pundit.
Difference of opinion, I thought he wittered on like a real twat today, slagging Arsenal at every opportunity.

What was there about the Arsenal 'performance' that didn't deserve criticising?
Arsenal were very poor, but I doubt any team would of suffered the shite he was coming out with "during the game."
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Rudy65 on August 28, 2017, 08:03:58 PM
Neville was spot on. he would have said the same about Man U
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: four fornicholl on August 28, 2017, 08:06:17 PM
Neville was spot on. he would have said the same about Man U
I would bet a pound to a penny that he wouldn't
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: lovejoy on August 28, 2017, 08:35:21 PM
Neville was spot on. he would have said the same about Man U
They finished 6th last year - can you evidence this?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Pete3206 on August 28, 2017, 10:05:46 PM
Gary Neville knows how easy this manager's lark is doesn't he? Just look at his success at Valencia.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 28, 2017, 11:39:23 PM
If you're not allowed to criticise the performance of a manager unless you've been a successful manager yourself, we might as well just close down Heroes Discussion.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 28, 2017, 11:41:09 PM
If you're not allowed to criticise the performance of a manager unless you've been a successful manager yourself, we might as well just close down Heroes Discussion.

I've heard worse ideas.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on August 29, 2017, 10:49:07 AM
Neville was spot on. he would have said the same about Man U

I agree that he was spot on in what he said about Arsenal and I also agree he would have been the same if United had 'performed' like that. Not only did Graeme Souness also criticise Arsenal even Arsene Wenger abandoned his usual excuses and criticised his team.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: CT on August 30, 2017, 09:01:41 AM
Went to Forest Green v Newport last night to tick off another ground.

I have to say, ex-nose Mark Cooper has them playing some really decent football. Even to the point of getting themselves into trouble a few times, the absolute last resort is to hoof the ball. We've complained for years at Villa that we can't actually define what our style of play is - it was pretty evident after 10 minutes what FGR are about.

Even at half time, the FGR coach was working on a mixture of warm-ups and tactics with the subs, while the Newport guy just had them running around a bit!

Very competitive game too.

Having said all that, I still hope they go back down.  ;)
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 30, 2017, 10:32:51 AM
Did you sample the meat pies or cheeseburgers?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: CT on August 30, 2017, 04:41:49 PM
Did you sample the meat pies or cheeseburgers?

I asked for a sausage sandwich just to see what reaction I'd get!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Ad@m on September 01, 2017, 06:36:12 PM
To think how shit our defence has been this season and three of England's back four tonight are ex Villa players.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: McGraths Dry Cleaning on September 01, 2017, 07:12:54 PM
To think how shit our defence has been this season and three of England's back four tonight are ex Villa players.
Supporting Villa is a lot like listening to the theme tune from whatever happened to the likely lads
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Zouch Villa on September 01, 2017, 07:53:50 PM
Just started the England game, clocked Sterlings pathetic attempts to win free kicks and remembered exactly why I despise watching England play.  Is it possible to still love the Villa yet hate modern football?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: London Villan on September 01, 2017, 08:08:10 PM
Has Bertrand got an aston martin logo tatooed on his neck??
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: SteveN on September 01, 2017, 08:22:47 PM
How depressing it is to play a system which gives Henderson so much of the ball. 
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Pete3206 on September 01, 2017, 08:26:07 PM
One up front against this shower?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: London Villan on September 01, 2017, 08:27:35 PM
England remind me so much of Villa at times. Slow, pedestrian and hard watch.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: taylorsworkrate on September 01, 2017, 08:29:21 PM
One up front against this shower?

Yeah, very negative from the Malta manager
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Pete3206 on September 01, 2017, 08:33:06 PM
Abysmal first half.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ez on September 01, 2017, 08:53:43 PM
Anyone spotted a villa flag yet?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: curiousorange on September 01, 2017, 08:54:17 PM
Henderson seems like the textbook example of a footballer's footballer, i.e. nobody other than ex-footballers have the slightest clue how he's got the career he has.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Pete3206 on September 01, 2017, 08:57:31 PM
About fookin time
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: BC54 VFC on September 01, 2017, 09:26:07 PM
I've just been to see England U18 v Brazil U18 at the Montgomery Waters Meadow. 0-0 but thought England were the better team and surprisingly some very skilful players. There is hope! Attendance: 1,876
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on September 01, 2017, 09:31:10 PM
Goalkeeper saves England's blushes by allowing the second goal.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on September 01, 2017, 09:33:53 PM
"Malta are not easy to beat they play lot of football no wonder England are having problems" ITV commentator😂
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Goldie.7 on September 01, 2017, 09:38:25 PM
I tuned into this game on 78 minutes, perfect!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on September 01, 2017, 09:40:01 PM
Good night for Scotland. Don't fuck us over on Monday, please England!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: dave shelley on September 01, 2017, 11:33:53 PM
"Malta are not easy to beat they play lot of football no wonder England are having problems" ITV commentator😂

Great, a country that is approx. 16x14 miles with all the footballing power at its disposal giving the minnows of England such a tough time.

I was out tonight unusually and saw it in the pub .  Five minutes from the end I went for a piss with England 2-0 to the good, when I came back it was 4-0.

I was thinking prior to going out, is this the poorest line-up I've ever seen for England?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: TonyD on September 01, 2017, 11:36:42 PM
To think how shit our defence has been this season and three of England's back four tonight are ex Villa players.
Supporting Villa is a lot like listening to the theme tune from whatever happened to the likely lads

Made me laugh and at the same time a bit sad. 
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Pete3206 on September 02, 2017, 10:36:14 AM
Good night for Scotland. Don't fuck us over on Monday, please England!

My prediction:
England 1 Slovakia 1
Scotland 2 Malta 0
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on September 02, 2017, 12:55:12 PM
That would do. Scotland need to win all games to secure second so long as England don't lose to Slovakia. I can't really see us qualifying but it's nice to see us in with a vague chance, even that looked unlikely a few games ago.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on September 02, 2017, 03:01:13 PM
4-0 really flattered England last night. It was a poor performance overall and illustrates all that is wrong with this qualifying process. England always roll over opposition  qualify and fail at the tournament. Hopefully Southgate is making plans for a better than average tournament next year.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: passport1 on September 02, 2017, 05:05:40 PM
Great start for ROI .
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on September 02, 2017, 05:13:00 PM
There's only one team that Georgia ever bother trying against.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: passport1 on September 02, 2017, 05:37:32 PM
Well they appear to  be having a go today. 1-1
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on September 02, 2017, 05:38:25 PM
I think Scotland's dismal record can be explained by the fact that other nations are so envious of the wonderful land and bright intelligent gifted population that they just try much much harder to beat them and mostly succeed partially by their own effort but mostly by Scottish compassion. I mean where else in the world can you fill a bottle with water from the nearest stream and 3 days later it turns into fine malt whiskey?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: DB on September 02, 2017, 09:19:51 PM
I see the Chancer is covering the Spain v Italy match on ITV4. Every time I see his face I want to slap it many times
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Pete3206 on September 02, 2017, 09:59:34 PM
Game on for Wales as the Irish cock it up.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: brontebilly on September 03, 2017, 12:15:19 AM
MON acting an absolute cock on Irish TV after the game. How dare the interviewer question the caveman tactics from the petulant little sh*t. Whelan a complete passenger again, expecting a lot more from Harry Arter in a green shirt  but he looks lost so far.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: in exile on September 03, 2017, 12:06:32 PM
...Whelan a complete passenger again

It's good to see a player taking his club form into Internationals
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: eamonn on September 03, 2017, 06:11:07 PM
Unfortunately it seems Hughes knew what he was doing with Whelan. Might be a season too far for Glenn.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on September 03, 2017, 09:19:03 PM
France v Luxembourg goalless after seventy five minutes.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on September 03, 2017, 09:27:01 PM
Luxembourg just hit the post.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on September 03, 2017, 09:28:15 PM
They have a played called Rodriges who looks pretty handy
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on September 03, 2017, 09:34:14 PM
Finished nil-nil. Great performance by Luxembourg.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: NeilH on September 04, 2017, 06:12:53 AM
They have a played called Rodriges who looks pretty handy

He's the striker at my local team where I have a season ticket. I suspect after that performance he won't be for much longer.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on September 04, 2017, 07:46:13 AM
Telstar in the Netherlands according to Wikipedia.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: NeilH on September 04, 2017, 11:13:52 AM
Telstar in the Netherlands according to Wikipedia.

Yep that's my local team. Bit of a cult club over here and I suspect the fans will make a big deal of him at the next home game vs Den Bosch.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: tomd2103 on September 04, 2017, 04:10:40 PM
First major test for Gareth Southgate at Wembley tonight.  Hopefully he will have abandoned the 'six players playing in their own half without an opposition player within 20 yards' tactic from the other night. 
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ez on September 04, 2017, 05:17:45 PM
Remember, if you get you're missus pregnant about now you'll have a good chance of getting your paternity leave during the world cup. Think ahead.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on September 04, 2017, 07:41:57 PM
Wembley looks about half full tonight.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on September 04, 2017, 07:48:15 PM
Rashford sets up the first goal
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ChicagoLion on September 04, 2017, 07:49:08 PM
What the fuck was Rashford doing?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on September 04, 2017, 07:49:25 PM
c***s.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: TonyD on September 04, 2017, 07:51:05 PM
Joe Hart ha ha.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: john e on September 04, 2017, 07:56:08 PM
well at least it's opened up the game
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Ads on September 04, 2017, 07:59:44 PM
Poor from England here. Second to everything, too deep and going long to an isolated Kane. Too many players trying to put their head down when in possession.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on September 04, 2017, 08:00:24 PM
Greedy Kane
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Pete3206 on September 04, 2017, 08:06:47 PM
£35 million? You're 'avin a laugh.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on September 04, 2017, 08:15:28 PM
Arsenal have done well to rob Liverpool.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: dave shelley on September 04, 2017, 08:18:38 PM
Taxi for Rashford
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Pete3206 on September 04, 2017, 08:19:01 PM
Taxi for Southgate
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on September 04, 2017, 08:22:26 PM
Good goal from Dier
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: dave shelley on September 04, 2017, 08:22:26 PM
Southgate in!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Pete3206 on September 04, 2017, 08:22:41 PM
Yes, Soutgate in!

World Cup glory beckons!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: john e on September 04, 2017, 08:25:04 PM
It's a good game actually both teams doing well and having a go
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on September 04, 2017, 08:29:03 PM
Northern Ireland are quite incredible leading CR 2-0 now.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on September 04, 2017, 08:32:00 PM
Walker was lucky there. It was a free kick and a red card.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: dave shelley on September 04, 2017, 08:32:18 PM
Superb challenge by Walker there.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: paul_e on September 04, 2017, 08:32:47 PM
Anyone got any idea how that wasn't a foul by walker?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Pete3206 on September 04, 2017, 08:33:48 PM
Nope
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: CT on September 04, 2017, 08:35:39 PM
£35 million? You're 'avin a laugh.

Stick Danny Drinkwater in there to make it a cool £70 million of laughter.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: dave shelley on September 04, 2017, 08:41:07 PM
Having seen the replay, it was a foul.  Walker out!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: dave shelley on September 04, 2017, 09:01:23 PM
Rashford in!  Nice, well taken goal.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Pete3206 on September 04, 2017, 09:02:24 PM
Right, Google search - 'Russia World Cup Final Stadium'
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Exeter 77 on September 04, 2017, 09:04:27 PM
I've been impressed by Rashford's attitude since making the mistake which led to the Slovak goal.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on September 04, 2017, 09:04:46 PM
Southgate is Villa ain't he!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on September 04, 2017, 09:05:18 PM
I've been impressed by Rashford's attitude since making the mistake which led to the Slovak goal.
Are you Glen Hoddle?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: four fornicholl on September 04, 2017, 09:07:06 PM
I've been impressed by Rashford's attitude since making the mistake which led to the Slovak goal.
Weren't we getting him on loan last season :-[ ?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on September 04, 2017, 09:08:57 PM
Greedy Kane.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Exeter 77 on September 04, 2017, 09:10:03 PM
I've been impressed by Rashford's attitude since making the mistake which led to the Slovak goal.
Are you Glen Hoddle?
Not last time I checked but I will gladly go an live in Spain and access his bank account if not his attitude to disabled people :-)

What I meant was Rashford could have gone missing in the way Dele Alli did against Malta.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: VILLA MOLE on September 04, 2017, 09:12:26 PM
Greedy Kane.

A few times they have been like that , where they should have passed
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on September 04, 2017, 09:13:33 PM
Yes sure you are right but GH made the same comment as you almost word per word. Anyway don't do anything bad as you know what will happen in next life😂
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: paul_e on September 04, 2017, 09:14:34 PM
Greedy Kane.

A few times they have been like that , where they should have passed

Kane does it too often.  I don't mind a striker working it for a shot if he's in the box but being greedy 30-40 yards out when you have good options is just poor decision making.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Pete3206 on September 04, 2017, 09:16:32 PM
What the fuck is Hart playing at, the twat!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Exeter 77 on September 04, 2017, 09:21:54 PM
Yes sure you are right but GH made the same comment as you almost word per word. Anyway don't do anything bad as you know what will happen in next life😂

I try not to listen to Hoddle's inanity so probably missed what he said - I preferred the Andy Townsend version of stating the obvious because at least he had a Villa connection.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Pete3206 on September 04, 2017, 09:21:57 PM
Jones - The Kaiser!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on September 04, 2017, 09:24:48 PM
Sick bucket please.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Exeter 77 on September 04, 2017, 09:26:33 PM
More Corporal Jones when backing off a striker running at him.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Richard E on September 04, 2017, 09:29:59 PM
Jones - The Kaiser!

In the sense of lost and had to ignominiously go into exile in the Netherlands?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on September 04, 2017, 09:32:51 PM
FFS Sterling what was that?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Pete3206 on September 04, 2017, 09:34:29 PM
Dier should be off
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on September 04, 2017, 09:47:10 PM
Thank you England 😘
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: curiousorange on September 04, 2017, 09:52:31 PM
England won't make it out of their group next year.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Dave on September 04, 2017, 10:02:56 PM
For the resources available to them, NornIron winning five matches on the spin is mighty impressive.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: brontebilly on September 05, 2017, 12:08:24 AM
For the resources available to them, NornIron winning five matches on the spin is mighty impressive.

Superb, Michael O'Neill is a very impressive coach. Took Shamrock Rovers to the Europa League, where McLeish spotted Enda Stevens, but was hardly a popular choice when he took the job. Seems to be a fair old man manager too. Hope he heads towards a coaching job in Europe when he finishes up. As a slight aside, Steven Davis is a very impressive international midfielder.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on September 05, 2017, 12:33:29 AM
Surprising that nobody has taken a punt on MON(N,NTMON) yet.

I think their achievements in reaching the Euros were unfairly dismissed on the basis that it was an expanded format (while overlooking the fact that they won their group and would have qualified at a canter even under the old system).

If they qualify for the World Cup too, he's a miracle worker.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: in exile on September 05, 2017, 09:46:53 AM
The shirt printer keeps spelling Dire wrong
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: darren woolley on September 05, 2017, 09:48:17 AM
For the resources available to them, NornIron winning five matches on the spin is mighty impressive.

Superb, Michael O'Neill is a very impressive coach. Took Shamrock Rovers to the Europa League, where McLeish spotted Enda Stevens, but was hardly a popular choice when he took the job. Seems to be a fair old man manager too. Hope he heads towards a coaching job in Europe when he finishes up. As a slight aside, Steven Davis is a very impressive international midfielder.

Northern Ireland keep on impressing me they have have done really well with what they have got Michael O'Neill's a very good manager and will one day when he leaves international football will get a job in the top two divisions in England I'm sure of that.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: DB on September 05, 2017, 10:09:29 AM
I see nothing in any of England's games under Southgate that we won't stink the World Cup out again next summer. Same old style, lack of pace, imagination and quality.
England really need a new approach to major tournaments.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on September 05, 2017, 12:52:05 PM
I can only think of Venables, Hoddle and Sven who seemed to have a plan. Although Southgate has earned the right to take us into the tournament proper. I think we have missed chances to appoint potentially good England managers who really knew their stuff and would have handled the job well. Cloughie, BFR and whatever you think about him personally, Harry Redknapp.

Northern Ireland beating the Czechs last night spoilt a nice acca for me.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: DB on September 05, 2017, 01:11:07 PM
.....oh, and that awful band
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: paul_e on September 05, 2017, 02:04:58 PM
I actually don't mind the way the current England team is setup, getting rid of Rooney was needed and Alli, Dier and Rashford all need to play as they're the 3 best players we have.  Outside that the defence is OK, but Hart should be replaced, the goal he conceded last night shows how poor he can be.  That leaves Henderson, Kane and Oxford-Chamberlain.  All 3 are probably the best options but they're also limited (at international level) and I can't see us progressing until we can replace them with a little more quality.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: eamonn on September 05, 2017, 02:08:41 PM
More quality than Kane? Harsh.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Villa75 on September 05, 2017, 02:12:01 PM
Anybody else seen the Germany highlights?

Good god, that's how football should be played. Delightful to watch.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: paul_e on September 05, 2017, 02:27:05 PM
More quality than Kane? Harsh.

I agree it was and I hope I'm wrong and he has a stormer next summer but to win (or stand a chance to win) a tournament you need players who get better in that environment and I've not seen anything to suggest he will (I think Alli and Rashford will though).  At club level he's excellent but that's not what we're talking about here.  Rooney had a similar problem, he was good in qualifying and friendlies but didn't have any impact in tournaments. To get through whilst playing the  shape we are you need a striker who will get 4-5 goals through the tournament and create stuff for the midfield and I just don't think Kane will do that.

That said Kane is still young, he's the best option we have and his scoring record earns him the right to stay in the team so, again, I hope he proves me wrong.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Hookeysmith on September 05, 2017, 06:21:15 PM
On TS  this morning an Irish journo was asked about NI's success and he said it was about having players with heart and togetherness  and a coach with a plan and who played those players in thier correct positions

It really does seem that simple at times. I think there a good few managers out there who should take heed and either stop trying to be too clever or too pig headed.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: curiousorange on September 05, 2017, 07:03:47 PM
Playing devil's advocate, if you build success around heart and togetherness, what happens when your results drop off? I'm not levelling criticism at Michael O'Neill who's done a fantastic job, but I think there's a happy medium between unity and imagination. The most successful managers find the sweet spot.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: paul_e on September 05, 2017, 08:05:05 PM
Playing devil's advocate, if you build success around heart and togetherness, what happens when your results drop off? I'm not levelling criticism at Michael O'Neill who's done a fantastic job, but I think there's a happy medium between unity and imagination. The most successful managers find the sweet spot.

On top of that I think it's a strategy that can bring relative success but you need extra qualities on top (like Germany for example) to be genuinely in with a chance of winning things.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Pete3206 on September 05, 2017, 08:35:51 PM
How about that for drama?

Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: brontebilly on September 05, 2017, 08:52:19 PM
Playing devil's advocate, if you build success around heart and togetherness, what happens when your results drop off? I'm not levelling criticism at Michael O'Neill who's done a fantastic job, but I think there's a happy medium between unity and imagination. The most successful managers find the sweet spot.

Heart and togetherness can bring a team a long way. A smattering of it at Villa Park over past 5 or 6 years and we would still be a mid table top division team. MON took over a real rabble though where player commitment was a problem, complete wild men like Kyle Lafferty to manage, FAI cherry picking the likes of McClean, Duffy, Wilson and Gibson (Ml O'Neill is from the green side of the tracks too), I'd say he has found whatever sweet spot there is.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on September 05, 2017, 09:10:53 PM
MO'N's Ireland losing at home.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: VILLA MOLE on September 05, 2017, 09:15:51 PM
Blatant cheating by mitrovic , embarrassing
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on September 05, 2017, 09:22:13 PM
Wales score
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on September 05, 2017, 09:34:06 PM
Ireland have met the side down tonight.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Richard E on September 05, 2017, 09:37:09 PM
Ireland have met the side down tonight.

Spain beating Liechtenstein has knackered my accumulator. I had that one down as a home banker.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on September 05, 2017, 09:44:29 PM
Surely you can sue someone or at least invoice it to them?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on September 06, 2017, 11:13:12 AM
MON has described ROI's performance last night as ..........wait for it

terrific. 
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AV82EC on September 06, 2017, 01:47:55 PM
MON has described ROI's performance last night as ..........wait for it

terrific.

Was that whilst he pushed his glasses up his nose?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: VILLA MOLE on September 06, 2017, 02:31:18 PM
MON has described ROI's performance last night as ..........wait for it

terrific.



from what I saw of it the Republic could be playing now and still wouldnt have scored ,  They seem to go long without having the players to do it .  oh for Cascarino and Quinn

Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on September 06, 2017, 04:21:55 PM
To get my fix of football betting today I have had Real Murcia, Logrones, Oviedo, Sporting Gijon, Mallorca and Hercules to all win in an early round of the Copa Del Rey before the big boys join in. The acca pays 20/1 to be fair, even though I have backed favourites. Although I might have a mission trying to track down the results tonight on tut tinternet.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Des Little on September 06, 2017, 05:31:02 PM
To get my fix of football betting today I have had Real Murcia, Logrones, Oviedo, Sporting Gijon, Mallorca and Hercules to all win in an early round of the Copa Del Rey before the big boys join in. The acca pays 20/1 to be fair, even though I have backed favourites. Although I might have a mission trying to track down the results tonight on tut tinternet.

I bet half of them games don't actually take place.  Who'd know the difference?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on September 06, 2017, 06:49:02 PM
To get my fix of football betting today I have had Real Murcia, Logrones, Oviedo, Sporting Gijon, Mallorca and Hercules to all win in an early round of the Copa Del Rey before the big boys join in. The acca pays 20/1 to be fair, even though I have backed favourites. Although I might have a mission trying to track down the results tonight on tut tinternet.

I bet half of them games don't actually take place.  Who'd know the difference?


Trust me, the bookies don't have to make up games and results to take and subsequently keep my money!

One of my funniest times managing a betting shop was in the first week of virtual racing. A bloke came in and hurriedly put a bet on the next dog race. He lost and then told me the race looked a bit weird, almost like a cartoon. I had to inform him that is basically what it was and he had just lost a fiver on it.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Richard E on September 06, 2017, 09:56:42 PM
Surely you can sue someone or at least invoice it to them?

I would do but Liechtenstein might not be good for the money.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on September 07, 2017, 05:59:28 AM
To get my fix of football betting today I have had Real Murcia, Logrones, Oviedo, Sporting Gijon, Mallorca and Hercules to all win in an early round of the Copa Del Rey before the big boys join in. The acca pays 20/1 to be fair, even though I have backed favourites. Although I might have a mission trying to track down the results tonight on tut tinternet.

I bet half of them games don't actually take place.  Who'd know the difference?


It was actually very easy to find the results. I got three out of six. At least my Spanish team and former home Tenerife won.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 07, 2017, 06:20:20 PM
Deeping v Kidderminster is the next live FA Cup game. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41189182
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on September 07, 2017, 07:29:28 PM
To get my fix of football betting today I have had Real Murcia, Logrones, Oviedo, Sporting Gijon, Mallorca and Hercules to all win in an early round of the Copa Del Rey before the big boys join in. The acca pays 20/1 to be fair, even though I have backed favourites. Although I might have a mission trying to track down the results tonight on tut tinternet.

I bet half of them games don't actually take place.  Who'd know the difference?


It was actually very easy to find the results. I got three out of six. At least my Spanish team and former home Tenerife won.

Against Rayo Vallecano who I like 😢
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on September 07, 2017, 07:41:21 PM
Deeping v Kidderminster is the next live FA Cup game. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41189182

Not bad. Might watch it on my phone in Barnsley.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on September 07, 2017, 08:07:54 PM
MON has described ROI's performance last night as ..........wait for it

terrific.

Was anybody "world class" though?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Dave Cooper please on September 08, 2017, 07:56:03 AM
Deeping v Kidderminster is the next live FA Cup game. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41189182

Blimey, a sensible decision. Potential giant killing against an ex-league club.
And I hate Kidderminster so I'll watch that until they start winning.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on September 08, 2017, 09:44:36 AM
Deeping v Kidderminster is the next live FA Cup game. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41189182

Blimey, a sensible decision. Potential giant killing against an ex-league club.
And I hate Kidderminster so I'll watch that until they start winning.


I had actually forgotten Kidderminster were in the league for a while. Wasn't it in the early noughties with Jan Molby as manager?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 08, 2017, 12:15:35 PM
I'm off to Derby vs Hull tonight. Hoping for a high scoring draw. Will submit a scouting report.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: SoccerHQ on September 08, 2017, 08:26:42 PM
Derby 3 up.

Not beating Hull on the opening day was a poor result.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: taylorsworkrate on September 08, 2017, 08:32:13 PM
Make that 4

Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 08, 2017, 08:33:57 PM
Not watching it but Hull missed a pen to make 1-1 and if they'd got their tails up and gone on to win they'd be 4th. So they aren't mugs.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: QuintonVilla on September 08, 2017, 08:57:42 PM
Add Hull to the very very very long list of shit teams that we couldn't beat.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: VILLA MOLE on September 08, 2017, 09:00:23 PM
Der
Add Hull to the very very very long list of shit teams that we couldn't beat.

Derby doing what we couldn't in the first half against them
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: saunders_heroes on September 08, 2017, 09:02:45 PM
5 now.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Villa in Denmark on September 08, 2017, 09:02:53 PM
5-0.

All good finishes too.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Richard E on September 08, 2017, 09:07:29 PM
Under Ellis we'd have beaten Hull 5-0.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: VILLA MOLE on September 08, 2017, 09:07:51 PM
they look better than us don't they ?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Richard E on September 08, 2017, 09:09:48 PM
they look better than us don't they ?

Yes, and so do Derby. Badoom-tish.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: VILLA MOLE on September 08, 2017, 09:12:07 PM
they look better than us don't they ?

Yes, and so do Derby. Badoom-tish.
they look better than us don't they ?

Yes, and so do Derby. Badoom-tish.

Here all week ?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: QuintonVilla on September 08, 2017, 09:18:25 PM
Lots of firepower and goals in their squad. Rowett had a poor Small Heath team around the play offs so he'll be up there with these.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on September 08, 2017, 09:21:47 PM
I'm off to Derby vs Hull tonight. Hoping for a high scoring draw. Will submit a scouting report.
So what happened?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Ads on September 08, 2017, 09:23:12 PM
Hull have had some really good chances.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 08, 2017, 10:15:46 PM
I'm off to Derby vs Hull tonight. Hoping for a high scoring draw. Will submit a scouting report.
So what happened?

I tried to post something at HT but phone reception was really poor in the stadium.

But I would say that Derby were good, nothing special. They didn't have to be. Just having a game plan, organized and above average they battered Hull. Who looked abysmal. And I'm being kind.

For Derby, Vydra, Lawrence and Johnson were excellent. My MOM was that pub player who looked so at ease all night. Keogh does the running, Davies does things very simply and his positioning was excellent. They have a super understanding and cost a lot less than Chester/Terry do.

At 1-0 against the run of play Hull got a penalty. The game might have different but step forward former useless nose Larsson to hit an awful penalty high over the bar. Hull offered nothing at all after that and got blown to pieces. If I was amongst their travelling supporters I'd be demanding a Derby Dinner and train/bus fare refunded.

Other former Villa: Weimann - he gets back well, he doesn't do much else of anything. Carson didn't have much to do. His kicking is awful. Bent is injured.

All in all Derby won't have an easier game all season. They barely broke into a sweat.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 08, 2017, 10:17:40 PM
All in all Derby won't have an easier game all season.

I can think of 2!

/baddumtish
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on September 08, 2017, 10:19:40 PM
So 5-0 Derby then. I had 2-1 to Hull! I came close with Hamilton v Celtic, 1-4. I had 1-3.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 08, 2017, 10:41:12 PM
All in all Derby won't have an easier game all season.

I can think of 2!

/baddumtish

Yep Mr Shin can see them hammering the Noses twice also

*winky thing*
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: SoccerHQ on September 08, 2017, 11:31:36 PM
All in all Derby won't have an easier game all season.

I can think of 2!

/baddumtish

Derby's record at Villa Park is abysmal I think.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 08, 2017, 11:51:32 PM
All in all Derby won't have an easier game all season.

I can think of 2!

/baddumtish

Derby's record at Villa Park is abysmal I think.


JINX!!!!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on September 09, 2017, 07:44:08 AM
Thanks TV. Enjoy the game later hopefully🐯
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 09, 2017, 07:58:09 AM
Thanks TV. Enjoy the game later hopefully🐯

Cheers Olly. Would love to see us finish as clinically as Derby did. We should have more than enough to beat Brentford. We simply have to take our chances.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Tuscans on September 09, 2017, 01:13:43 PM
Keeper is milking it....a fucking stretcher!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on September 09, 2017, 01:14:10 PM
Keeper is miking it....a fucking stretcher!
Very harsh
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Tuscans on September 09, 2017, 01:15:57 PM
Keeper is miking it....a fucking stretcher!
Very harsh
Tell me you're joking right? The games is a farce
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: taylorsworkrate on September 09, 2017, 01:16:00 PM
Keeper is miking it....a fucking stretcher!

Yeah the fucking pisstaker. He violently attacked Mane's studs with his face and now he's playing the victim.

All joking aside it was a nasty incident and hopefully the keeper is ok (something sky haven't bothered to mention in their criticism of it being a red card)
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on September 09, 2017, 01:17:52 PM
Keeper is miking it....a fucking stretcher!
Very harsh
Tell me you're joking right? The games is a farce
You one over the eight?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on September 09, 2017, 01:18:44 PM
Keeper is milking it....a fucking stretcher!

I'm not sure if you're joking or an idiot. Your previous posts don't fill me with confidence, though.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ozzjim on September 09, 2017, 01:18:52 PM
It was a red.  The guy has caught him late in the face with his studs.  If he caught a bloke by the ankle a fraction late with studs up it's a red. This is too. Sky deciding it's not is the bigger piss take.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Tuscans on September 09, 2017, 01:19:14 PM
Keeper is miking it....a fucking stretcher!

Yeah the fucking pisstaker. He violently attacked Mane's studs with his face and now he's playing the victim.

All joking aside it was a nasty incident and hopefully the keeper is ok (something sky haven't bothered to mention in their criticism of it being a red card)
Walk off the fucking pitch man. It's the need of a bloody stretcher that's killing me. The world breeds weak men in today's society.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on September 09, 2017, 01:21:14 PM
It was a red.  The guy has caught him late in the face with his studs.  If he caught a bloke by the ankle a fraction late with studs up it's a red. This is too. Sky deciding it's not is the bigger piss take.
Agreed.Gary Neville thought it wasn't a red,cos he often went in with a kung-fu kick too.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on September 09, 2017, 01:22:49 PM
Keeper is miking it....a fucking stretcher!

Yeah the fucking pisstaker. He violently attacked Mane's studs with his face and now he's playing the victim.

All joking aside it was a nasty incident and hopefully the keeper is ok (something sky haven't bothered to mention in their criticism of it being a red card)
Walk off the fucking pitch man. It's the need of a bloody stretcher that's killing me. The world breeds weak men in today's society.
Let's hope he hasn't broken his neck
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Tuscans on September 09, 2017, 01:23:10 PM
Keeper is milking it....a fucking stretcher!

I'm not sure if you're joking or an idiot. Your previous posts don't fill me with confidence, though.
Wouldn't be long until you put your 2 pence worth in.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on September 09, 2017, 01:25:26 PM
So, not joking? As I thought.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Tuscans on September 09, 2017, 01:27:29 PM
So, not joking? As I thought.
Please don't bully me.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ozzjim on September 09, 2017, 01:27:53 PM
Medical staff look at him and tell him not to move.  So the bloke should get up and walk off? You been on the pop?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on September 09, 2017, 01:30:05 PM
Christopher Reeve didn't half milk that horse-riding accident.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on September 09, 2017, 01:30:51 PM
However it was just a throw away comment so no point in castigating Tuscans mercilessly😂
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Tuscans on September 09, 2017, 01:31:57 PM
Christopher Reeve didn't half milk that horse-riding accident.
Ederson shouldn't of beeen on a horse on the pitch then.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ozzjim on September 09, 2017, 01:32:16 PM
There is a still on the match thread on the beeb.  The keeper is caught flush with the whole boot across his head.  If that in not dangerous play at head height what is?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Tuscans on September 09, 2017, 01:34:26 PM
Medical staff look at him and tell him not to move.  So the bloke should get up and walk off? You been on the pop?
If it's the Vanarama he walks off, sponge on the face, in the pub an hour later...."Check this bad boy out lads"
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on September 09, 2017, 01:35:17 PM
Maybe Tuscans version of football is the future:a deadly rollerball type affair till no one's left on the pitch.The flakes.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Tuscans on September 09, 2017, 01:35:47 PM
Alright, alright...I'm back tracking a bit now. Just seen it again, can see Mane is rocking blades....maybe he slashed him up a little.

Yellow for me! ;)
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Chris Jameson on September 09, 2017, 01:36:20 PM
Keeper is miking it....a fucking stretcher!

Yeah the fucking pisstaker. He violently attacked Mane's studs with his face and now he's playing the victim.

All joking aside it was a nasty incident and hopefully the keeper is ok (something sky haven't bothered to mention in their criticism of it being a red card)
Walk off the fucking pitch man. It's the need of a bloody stretcher that's killing me. The world breeds weak men in today's society.

Surprised you didn't go for the "man up" option there.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ozzjim on September 09, 2017, 01:37:12 PM
 What bad boy? The concussion or the stud marks in his head.  And do you go against a doctor telling you to stay still to jump up and prove you're hard? What exactly do you achieve? Havre you not done that already taking a studs to the head?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Tuscans on September 09, 2017, 01:37:20 PM
But I'm still sticking with you can still walk off, gash or no gash.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 09, 2017, 01:37:42 PM
Maybe Tuscans version of football is the future:a deadly rollerball type affair till no one's left on the pitch.The flakes.

(http://www.abandonia.com/files/games/592/Speedball%202%20-%20Brutal%20Deluxe_8.png)
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on September 09, 2017, 01:38:15 PM
Maybe Tuscans version of football is the future:a deadly rollerball type affair till no one's left on the pitch.The flakes.

I'm sure I used to have a computer game like that in the early nineties. Was pretty good, to be fair, so maybe Tuscans is on to something.

Real Madrid drawing with Islamic State of Iraq and the Levante. Eleven minutes left. The bastards will still win.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: saunders_heroes on September 09, 2017, 01:38:18 PM
Foot high, kick in the head: it's a sending off. Feck 'em anyway, they're only scousers.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Tuscans on September 09, 2017, 01:38:33 PM
What bad boy? The concussion or the stud marks in his head.  And do you go against a doctor telling you to stay still to jump up and prove you're hard? What exactly do you achieve? Havre you not done that already taking a studs to the head?
Alright chill out...I'm slightly joking with that comment. Fucking hell.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on September 09, 2017, 01:38:52 PM
FFS, PWS beat me to it! What was it called?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 09, 2017, 01:40:01 PM
FFS, PWS beat me to it! What was it called?

Speedball 2, one of the greatest games ever.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ozzjim on September 09, 2017, 01:40:47 PM
Foot high, kick in the head: it's a sending off. Feck 'em anyway, they're only scousers.

Imagine it had been the United keeper.  Neville would have been making out it was a 20 game ban.  City keeper it's not a sending off.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on September 09, 2017, 01:41:10 PM
Hmmm I'm sure that doesn't ring a bell. Must have been a similar game. If you were losing, you could still win by decapitating three of the opposition.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Tuscans on September 09, 2017, 01:42:28 PM
There was one called Smash TV that looked similar to that top down style.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: saunders_heroes on September 09, 2017, 01:42:35 PM
Foot high, kick in the head: it's a sending off. Feck 'em anyway, they're only scousers.

Imagine it had been the United keeper.  Neville would have been making out it was a 20 game ban.  City keeper it's not a sending off.

They didn't once show any concern that he had a boot flush in the face when it was a clear as day, and Neville still hasn't changed his mine.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on September 09, 2017, 01:43:41 PM
But I'm still sticking with you can still walk off, gash or no gash.
You are so right. Years ago I was disappointed when our Dutch fullback didn't come back on after pushing his foot to point in the right direction.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Tuscans on September 09, 2017, 01:43:47 PM
Nev still saying only a yellow for him..."did we just become best friends"!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Jockey Randall on September 09, 2017, 01:44:05 PM
You can have 9/4 with the bookies that it's not rescinded - fill your boots imo.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Tuscans on September 09, 2017, 01:44:46 PM
But I'm still sticking with you can still walk off, gash or no gash.
You are so right. Years ago I was disappointed when our Dutch fullback didn't come back on.
Southern softie
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 09, 2017, 01:48:20 PM
Hmmm I'm sure that doesn't ring a bell. Must have been a similar game. If you were losing, you could still win by decapitating three of the opposition.

The cover in case that helps

(http://www.meanmachinesmag.co.uk/review_assets/speedball2md.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: dave shelley on September 09, 2017, 01:48:33 PM
There is a still on the match thread on the beeb.  The keeper is caught flush with the whole boot across his head.  If that in not dangerous play at head height what is?

An alternative view though, back in my day and it may well have changed, Dangerous Play did not automatically mean you had to send the offender off whereas Serious Foul Play did.  It may be a fine line and totally dependent on the referee's opinion but there is a difference.

Anyway, 3-0 to Citeh and I'm off back to the cricket.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on September 09, 2017, 01:49:28 PM
Hmmm I'm sure that doesn't ring a bell. Must have been a similar game. If you were losing, you could still win by decapitating three of the opposition.

The cover in case that helps

(http://www.meanmachinesmag.co.uk/review_assets/speedball2md.jpg)

Don't think that was it. Was on the Amiga not Sega.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on September 09, 2017, 01:51:52 PM
According to Google it seems to be "Brutal Sports Football", but that name doesn't really ring a bell either, so I reckon it might have been released under a different name in the UK.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Axl Rose on September 09, 2017, 01:56:52 PM
FFS, PWS beat me to it! What was it called?

Speedball 2, one of the greatest games ever.

I'm going to get that out tonight if we lose. It'll be something to take the edge of a loss. Wonderful game.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Axl Rose on September 09, 2017, 01:58:20 PM
But I'm still sticking with you can still walk off, gash or no gash.
You are so right. Years ago I was disappointed when our Dutch fullback didn't come back on.
Southern softie

That's you told, Aftab! I'm sure you're going today mate. Enjoy! Three points, hopefully.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on September 09, 2017, 01:58:34 PM
Not been impressed by Plop or Klopp .Emperor's clothes and all that.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Ian J on September 09, 2017, 02:00:37 PM
But I'm still sticking with you can still walk off, gash or no gash.
Gash, now that's an ugly word.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Axl Rose on September 09, 2017, 02:01:22 PM
According to Google it seems to be "Brutal Sports Football", but that name doesn't really ring a bell either, so I reckon it might have been released under a different name in the UK.

Wasn't it Speedball 2: 'Brutal Deluxe'?

Here in Japan, it's 'スピードボール 2'....which just means 'Speedball 2', haha.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Tuscans on September 09, 2017, 02:02:04 PM
But I'm still sticking with you can still walk off, gash or no gash.
Gash, now that's an ugly word.
I know women who prefer that over another.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Stu on September 09, 2017, 02:02:11 PM
Hmmm I'm sure that doesn't ring a bell. Must have been a similar game. If you were losing, you could still win by decapitating three of the opposition.

The cover in case that helps

(http://www.meanmachinesmag.co.uk/review_assets/speedball2md.jpg)

What a brilliant game that was.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on September 09, 2017, 02:27:39 PM
Goodnight Vienna.What a goal from Sane.City look strong this season.Pool flatter.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on September 09, 2017, 02:28:12 PM
Wonderful goal to end a great game. That's my football done for today. Now to watch Villa.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Tuscans on September 09, 2017, 02:29:03 PM
Goodnight Vienna.What a goal from Sane.City look strong this season.Pool flatter.
Until the sending off it was all Plop.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: dave shelley on September 09, 2017, 02:33:27 PM
What on earth was Delph thinking, money notwithstanding?  He's as far away from playing in that side as I am from dating Natalie Sawyer.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Tuscans on September 09, 2017, 02:34:45 PM
What on earth was Delph thinking, money notwithstanding?  He's as far away from playing in that side as I am from dating Natalie Sawyer.
She gets bustier every deadline day.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on September 09, 2017, 02:35:10 PM
Goodnight Vienna.What a goal from Sane.City look strong this season.Pool flatter.
Until the sending off it was all Plop.
You watching the same sport?
They were conservatively playing on the break.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Tuscans on September 09, 2017, 02:40:49 PM
Goodnight Vienna.What a goal from Sane.City look strong this season.Pool flatter.
Until the sending off it was all Plop.
You watching the same sport?
They were conservatively playing on the break.
Yeah yeah yeah, you're right.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Villa75 on September 09, 2017, 04:08:13 PM
Foot high, kick in the head: it's a sending off. Feck 'em anyway, they're only scousers.

Imagine it had been the United keeper.  Neville would have been making out it was a 20 game ban.  City keeper it's not a sending off.

This can't be the 'fair' and 'unbiased' Gary Neville who always tells it like it is?

The guys a prize plank. I agree. If that had happened to a United keeper he would have wanted the 'attacker' jailed.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Risso on September 09, 2017, 08:44:55 PM
Christ, Mourinho is such an utter, utter, utter arsehole.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Tuscans on September 09, 2017, 08:51:34 PM
Christ, Mourinho is such an utter, utter, utter arsehole.
Yep, let's shake on it.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Risso on September 09, 2017, 08:58:41 PM
Hmmm I'm sure that doesn't ring a bell. Must have been a similar game. If you were losing, you could still win by decapitating three of the opposition.

The cover in case that helps

(http://www.meanmachinesmag.co.uk/review_assets/speedball2md.jpg)

Don't think that was it. Was on the Amiga not Sega.

I had Speedball two on the Amiga, think it was the same as the Sega version.  Brilliant game, loved the little ramps on the side you could put the ball up to double your points.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: SoccerHQ on September 09, 2017, 09:09:17 PM
Adama had a cracking game for Boro today by the looks of it.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on September 09, 2017, 09:35:05 PM
Whilst I don't think Mane was aiming for the keeper, hitting him in mid air clean on the chin, is a clear red card
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Risso on September 09, 2017, 10:09:10 PM
Harry Kane really is shaping up to be some player.  80 league goals in 117 appearances at his age is a bit good.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Ian J on September 09, 2017, 11:25:09 PM
So it's a historical moment BHA scoring their first Premier goal, so they have never played in the 1st division before?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: adrenachrome on September 09, 2017, 11:35:46 PM
So it's a historical moment BHA scoring their first Premier goal, so they have never played in the 1st division before?

I remember when we played them in the third division, which has vanished into the ether. At the Goldstone Ground in Hove, which has also vanished.

Perhaps it was a dream, within a dream.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on September 09, 2017, 11:48:16 PM
So it's a historical moment BHA scoring their first Premier goal, so they have never played in the 1st division before?

I remember when we played them in the third division, which has vanished into the ether. At the Goldstone Ground in Hove, which has also vanished.

Perhaps it was a dream, within a dream.

Don't do drugs, kids.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on September 10, 2017, 04:10:49 PM
Foot high, kick in the head: it's a sending off. Feck 'em anyway, they're only scousers.

I trust that remark was "tongue in cheek" - if not, what have scousers done to you to make you so negative?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on September 10, 2017, 04:21:39 PM
What on earth was Delph thinking, money notwithstanding?  He's as far away from playing in that side as I am from dating Natalie Sawyer.
She gets bustier every deadline day.


I thought that. Apparently she has divorced Matt Sammerface and is dating some beardy Championship (I think) footballer who's name I can't remember. Her son also has his parents surnames for a name. Christian name Sawyer, surname Matterface.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: IAmTheOneIanOlney on September 10, 2017, 04:24:47 PM
What on earth was Delph thinking, money notwithstanding?  He's as far away from playing in that side as I am from dating Natalie Sawyer.
She gets bustier every deadline day.


I thought that. Apparently she has divorced Matt Sammerface and is dating some beardy Championship (I think) footballer who's name I can't remember. Her son also has his parents surnames for a name. Christian name Sawyer, surname Matterface.

Its-a not so bad
Its-a nice-a place
Ah, Sawyer Matterface
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: berneboy on September 10, 2017, 04:28:31 PM
Ciaran Clark looks a decent player today for Newcastle.
Perhaps we should put a bid in in January.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: SoccerHQ on September 10, 2017, 04:47:54 PM
Renato Sanches been dreadful.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on September 10, 2017, 04:53:21 PM
I had a bet on Burnley to win and another bet on them to win 1-0.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Tuscans on September 10, 2017, 05:41:34 PM
What on earth was Delph thinking, money notwithstanding?  He's as far away from playing in that side as I am from dating Natalie Sawyer.
She gets bustier every deadline day.


I thought that. Apparently she has divorced Matt Sammerface and is dating some beardy Championship (I think) footballer who's name I can't remember. Her son also has his parents surnames for a name. Christian name Sawyer, surname Matterface.
She was never ever going to stick it out with Shutupperyourface, just look at the piss streak. The chap shes with now loves a beanie and that's what swayed probably. But yeah, tits....fantastic.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Tuscans on September 10, 2017, 05:49:02 PM
Renato Sanches been dreadful.
The hype surrounding him after a scuffed shot in the Euros and then a move to Bayern was absurd. Apparently struggled so much in Germany he was booed by the fans for constantly giving the ball away, even those easy Westwood side passes...given away. 

Always good to see Jamie Redknapp look like a cock though.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Tuscans on September 10, 2017, 05:49:42 PM
But Burnley v Palace, Swansea v Newcastle...."Super" Sunday!!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: paul_e on September 10, 2017, 07:09:35 PM
Renato Sanches could be a very good player in 2-3 years but right now he's a long way from ready, the hype at the Euros was ridiculous and the Bayern move looks a lot like "too much, too soon" like a lot of good young players who move to the champions league clubs.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Dave on September 10, 2017, 07:56:16 PM
Veretout scores and Fiorentina win 5-0.

Still, at least we've got Glenn Whelan.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on September 10, 2017, 08:11:47 PM
What on earth was Delph thinking, money notwithstanding?  He's as far away from playing in that side as I am from dating Natalie Sawyer.
She gets bustier every deadline day.
Yes she is very busy fronting early and late shift on SSN some days.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: CT on September 10, 2017, 08:12:58 PM
The Inter Milan v Spal game earlier - stoppage for nearly five minutes so the video replay could decide if there was a penalty or not.

Because it won't stop the flow of the game they said.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on September 10, 2017, 08:19:41 PM
Still better than making the wrong decision.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: The Moose on September 10, 2017, 10:45:50 PM
Did it?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: FatSam on September 10, 2017, 11:01:47 PM
Veretout scores and Fiorentina win 5-0.

Still, at least we've got Glenn Whelan.

It was a great free-kick as well.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Ads on September 11, 2017, 07:16:02 AM
Where was the post when we spanked Norwich and they got dine 3-0 by Inter?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Dave on September 11, 2017, 09:07:18 AM
Well it wouldn't have been particularly relevant then, would it?

Just like the posts in the Norwich post-match thread about our attacking dynamism and free-scoring midfield aren't really relevant after the Brentford game.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Ads on September 11, 2017, 09:16:27 AM
Not relevant to comment when he's shit and his new club are getting a drubbing and we are giving somebody a drubbing.

Suddenly there's relevance when he scores a free kick and we're poor.

Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Dave on September 11, 2017, 09:19:56 AM
Not relevant to comment when he's shit and his new club are getting a drubbing and we are giving somebody a drubbing.

Suddenly there's relevance when he scores a free kick and we're poor.

I've just checked, and this is definitely the Other Games thread.

If anybody wants to post when our former players are shit (or for that matter, about anything happening in any other football matches) then they're more than welcome to do so.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Chris Jameson on September 11, 2017, 11:00:07 AM
He clearly had no intention of ever playing for Villa again, bit like Whelan I suppose.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Villa Lew on September 11, 2017, 02:08:43 PM
But Burnley v Palace, Swansea v Newcastle...."Super" Sunday!!
The Premier League probably asked the TV companies not to televise the big clubs' matches on the Sunday, so to give them an extra day to prepare for their European matches. If that is the case, well done to the Prem.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on September 11, 2017, 02:40:12 PM
Bollocks to the English clubs in Europe. Sky shouldn't be helping clubs prepare for a BT competition, it's in their interest for all the English clubs to be knocked out early.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Villa Lew on September 11, 2017, 04:19:50 PM
Bollocks to the English clubs in Europe. Sky shouldn't be helping clubs prepare for a BT competition, it's in their interest for all the English clubs to be knocked out early.
I think if Villa were in Europe, alright I know it's a massive if, I reckon you would be thinking differently.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on September 11, 2017, 04:41:12 PM
I'll worry about that at the time... give it seventy years!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Villa Lew on September 11, 2017, 04:54:30 PM
Blimey 70 years, I wonder if Bruce will still be manager then!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Chris Jameson on September 11, 2017, 04:57:15 PM
Blimey 70 years, I wonder if Bruce will still be manager then!

Agbonlahor will be in the final year of his latest contract.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on September 11, 2017, 04:57:56 PM
Just give him till October, 2087. He's the man to get us out of the Birmingham League Division Twelve (North).

On the plus side, Whelan hasn't lost any of his pace.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: in exile on September 12, 2017, 11:53:45 AM
Blimey 70 years, I wonder if Bruce will still be manager then!

With John Terry signing a year contract every season, still waiting for promotion back to the Premier
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Ads on September 13, 2017, 07:21:52 AM
The Barnsley owners letter is a bit poignant.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Hookeysmith on September 13, 2017, 02:49:46 PM
The Barnsley owners letter is a bit poignant.

Elaborate please?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 13, 2017, 02:53:35 PM
The Barnsley owners letter is a bit poignant.

Elaborate please?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41249300
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on September 13, 2017, 03:47:15 PM
Poor bloke. 😕
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: dave shelley on September 13, 2017, 06:01:20 PM
My sympathies are with him and his family.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on September 13, 2017, 08:16:31 PM
Truly sad and a great letter from a brave man.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on September 13, 2017, 08:18:17 PM
I am watching CL goals as they go in  BT and after watching Villa you almost forget that this is how football is played.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: SteveN on September 13, 2017, 08:32:51 PM
I am watching CL goals as they go in  BT and after watching Villa you almost forget that this is how football is played.

Whenever I see Dortmund it reminds me of how I dreamt that when we appointed Lambert we would follow the Dortmund model.
Dream on.
 
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: lovejoy on September 13, 2017, 09:49:50 PM
Losing away and having ridiculous refereeing decisions given against you.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on September 14, 2017, 09:50:24 AM
The Barnsley owners letter is a bit poignant.

Elaborate please?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41249300



I was going to post about that yesterday after reading his words about him knowing he won't get to the end of the season, but I was lost for words.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on September 14, 2017, 09:52:24 AM
Wow, I did incredibly badly betting on last nights games. I had a seven team acca and only got one result right out of the seven.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: somec on September 14, 2017, 10:22:54 AM
Wow, I did incredibly badly betting on last nights games. I had a seven team acca and only got one result right out of the seven.

Porto ruined most of my accas last night, the bastards!

Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on September 14, 2017, 10:34:53 AM
Wow, I did incredibly badly betting on last nights games. I had a seven team acca and only got one result right out of the seven.

Porto ruined most of my accas last night, the bastards!

I never put the same team in different accas. Last night Man City won for me and I was let down by Sevilla, Spartak Moscow, Porto, Monaco, Napoli and Dortmund.

Admittedly, it was a very 'optimistic' acca. The accumulative odds would have paid out at 417/1!

Tonight I have gone for a far more realistic 7/1 sixfold on odds on favourites.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: lovejoy on September 14, 2017, 02:02:29 PM
Wow, I did incredibly badly betting on last nights games. I had a seven team acca and only got one result right out of the seven.

Porto ruined most of my accas last night, the bastards!



Same for me. The classic Portugese teams at home are strong and Turkish away are weak combie.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: QuintonVilla on September 14, 2017, 03:52:48 PM
Just read that Koln have brought an estimated 20,000 fans over for their game at Arsenal. That's mental for a Europa League group game.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on September 14, 2017, 05:41:41 PM
Just read that Koln have brought an estimated 20,000 fans over for their game at Arsenal. That's mental for a Europa League group game.

just seen a Twitter video clip of them marching through Soho this afternoon. Incredible.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Dave on September 14, 2017, 07:14:30 PM
Atalanta destroying Everton. 3-0 after an hour, could easily be 7-0.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Chris Jameson on September 14, 2017, 07:34:59 PM
I have a mate who is an Everton supporter and notice from my Facebook feed that Everton supporters don't seem very very impressed with Koeman and some of his dealings in the transfer market.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on September 14, 2017, 07:39:04 PM
That's about  8 conceded in their last 3 matches.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: steamer on September 14, 2017, 07:56:40 PM
My best mate is an Everton fan
He cut short our Thursday beers to rush home for the game same sad
He was also very bullish preseason and before the spurs game to their prospects for the season.
It looks like he will be joining the sad aspiration club with me.
I will wait until next Thursday to mention it and ask the naïve question about how Wayne is fitting in, between his drinking /philandering activities.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: QuintonVilla on September 14, 2017, 08:27:36 PM
Just read that Koln have brought an estimated 20,000 fans over for their game at Arsenal. That's mental for a Europa League group game.
Kick off delayed by an hour at The Emirates as Koln fans are all over the ground and thousands are outside trying to smash through gates to get in. Seen a video on Twitter in a home end concourse and they're all Koln fans.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: steamer on September 14, 2017, 08:29:09 PM
Just read that Koln have brought an estimated 20,000 fans over for their game at Arsenal. That's mental for a Europa League group game.
I saw the youtube video
Do the maths, they had 2900 tickets allocated.
Bring 20,000 fans ?
How many flights from Germany today ?
How many seats on a plane ?
ferrys, cars, coaches ?
I am sure they probably brought more than double their allocation.
However I doubt the Luftwaffe planned to bring 20,000 in a day.
Open to be proved wrong with statistics.
ferrys. cars, coaches ?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: QuintonVilla on September 14, 2017, 08:36:05 PM
Just read that Koln have brought an estimated 20,000 fans over for their game at Arsenal. That's mental for a Europa League group game.
I saw the youtube video
Do the maths, they had 2900 tickets allocated.
Bring 20,000 fans ?
How many flights from Germany today ?
How many seats on a plane ?
ferrys, cars, coaches ?
I am sure they probably brought more than double their allocation.
However I doubt the Luftwaffe planned to bring 20,000 in a day.
Open to be proved wrong with statistics.
ferrys. cars, coaches ?
Not saying it is definitely 20,000 but look at the pics and videos doing the rounds now. Their fans are all over the ground and they've unofficially extended the away end. There's thousands still outside trying to get in.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: steamer on September 14, 2017, 08:40:06 PM
I just googled their average attendance.
48,000 last year
Obviously well supported.
Day out in London why not.
sorry for being skeptical.
I hope they win.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on September 14, 2017, 08:52:56 PM
I bet thousands of tickets were sold by Arsenal season card holders who are forced sold cup games. And , of course,  with 6 London airports including London Southend and London Birmingham there were 100's of flights from Germany ;D
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Chris Jameson on September 14, 2017, 08:58:23 PM
Be quite an experience for the Arsenal supporters to be able to be part of a good atmosphere at the Emirates.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Nev on September 14, 2017, 08:58:28 PM
Obviously I hope that there is no serious trouble but the sanitised, airless and sterile atmosphere cultivated by the moneyed vested interests being punctured by supporters is ace, and nowhere better than that ground in north London.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: KRS on September 14, 2017, 09:00:32 PM
Fell asleep during the Marseille game but looking forward to watching it unfold at the Emirates...if I manage to stay awake.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Sexual Ealing on September 14, 2017, 09:03:44 PM
Just read that Koln have brought an estimated 20,000 fans over for their game at Arsenal. That's mental for a Europa League group game.
I saw the youtube video
Do the maths, they had 2900 tickets allocated.
Bring 20,000 fans ?
How many flights from Germany today ?
How many seats on a plane ?
ferrys, cars, coaches ?
I am sure they probably brought more than double their allocation.
However I doubt the Luftwaffe planned to bring 20,000 in a day.
Open to be proved wrong with statistics.
ferrys. cars, coaches ?


I don't think it's called that.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on September 14, 2017, 09:04:17 PM
There are more referees in the stadium than Arsenal supporters.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 14, 2017, 09:14:20 PM
Worth remembering it's their first European game for something like 25 years, with the added appeal of London.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on September 14, 2017, 09:14:49 PM
Superb goal Koln
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Villa75 on September 14, 2017, 09:16:41 PM
Not bad at all.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Richard on September 14, 2017, 09:26:20 PM
Let's be honest the Cologne fans picked the right London club to turn up at in such numbers - bet they wouldn't have been so brave going to Chelsea or West Ham. Creating a great atmosphere though so all credit to them.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: pauliewalnuts on September 14, 2017, 09:29:30 PM
Everything wrong about arsenal on show here - tens of thousands of away fans in their ground and up for it and Arsenal fans just sat there comatose, or posting panicky tweets because there's some fat German sat a few seats away.

Arsenal are the embodiment of everything that is bad about the premier league.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Villa75 on September 14, 2017, 09:31:13 PM
Off to my night shift. Enjoy the game, guys.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: aj2k77 on September 14, 2017, 09:31:28 PM
English football support is fucked now anyway, £40 a ticket, players mincing around on tens of thousands of pounds with very little skill. Half silent, half on their phones, it's shit.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Pat McMahon on September 14, 2017, 09:47:51 PM
Police intelligence obviously lacking tonight re Arsenal.

I saw about 4different groups of Koln fans near our office in Hammersmith this morning before 9am. One bloke with his little 5 year old told me there were 10,000 of them in town - I assumed he was exaggerating. He obviously wasn't....

How did they get the tickets is an obvious question - presumably resale from Arsenal  ticket holders who couldn't give a hoot about the yawn fest of the champs league group stage?

I feel sorry for Arsenal fans - I know loads who have been priced out of going regularly and have to wait for returns for the cheaper dull games. The few I know that still go have to pay £2k a year for the privilege.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: TopDeck113 on September 14, 2017, 09:51:17 PM
Cologne bringing 20,000 fans for a Europa League group match that most of them can't get in to watch? Simultaneously absolutely bonkers and brilliant.  The fact that Arsenal fans are so upset is laughable.  It'll be the first time they'll have had an atmosphere at the Emirates in years.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithe on September 14, 2017, 09:55:41 PM
Just read that Koln have brought an estimated 20,000 fans over for their game at Arsenal. That's mental for a Europa League group game.
I saw the youtube video
Do the maths, they had 2900 tickets allocated.
Bring 20,000 fans ?
How many flights from Germany today ?
How many seats on a plane ?
ferrys, cars, coaches ?
I am sure they probably brought more than double their allocation.
However I doubt the Luftwaffe planned to bring 20,000 in a day.
Open to be proved wrong with statistics.
ferrys. cars, coaches ?


I don't think it's called that.

Ha, ha.

The Red Baron has flew a few of them over. For you Tommy, ze war is over.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: QuintonVilla on September 14, 2017, 09:57:07 PM
Arsenal fans and neutrals tweeting from the game saying how scary it is inside the ground. What a bunch of fannies.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: spangley1812 on September 14, 2017, 09:57:20 PM
Unconfirmed reports that the trouble started when Koln fans tried to get into the stadium early to put their towels on seats...
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: dave.woodhall on September 14, 2017, 10:01:42 PM
Arsenal fans and neutrals tweeting from the game saying how scary it is inside the ground. What a bunch of fannies.

You mean like when our supporters hyperventilate when a Manchester United supporter comes within fifty yards?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: wittonwarrior on September 14, 2017, 10:11:49 PM
Unconfirmed reports that the trouble started when Koln fans tried to get into the stadium early to put their towels on seats...

that's actually quite funny.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Des Little on September 14, 2017, 10:47:45 PM
Arsenal fans and neutrals tweeting from the game saying how scary it is inside the ground. What a bunch of fannies.

You mean like when our supporters hyperventilate when a Manchester United supporter comes within fifty yards?

That's one of the best things about not being in the Prem...not hearing the scream of 'gerrim' out!' whenever a 10 year old opposition fan smiles if his team score at VP. Nauseating to the extreme.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on September 14, 2017, 11:14:47 PM
Apparently Arsenal fans are marking themselves safe on Facebook.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on September 15, 2017, 12:18:01 AM
This is what happens when a manager is allowed to mange the club from top to bottom without having to answer to those above him.

Clearly Arsene underestimated the number of away fans and failed to arrange suitable stewarding, policing and segregation.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Ads on September 15, 2017, 02:58:11 PM
Arsenal fans and neutrals tweeting from the game saying how scary it is inside the ground. What a bunch of fannies.

You mean like when our supporters hyperventilate when a Manchester United supporter comes within fifty yards?

To be fair to our south Brum chum, I think he's referring more to what Mark is mocking them for two posts above this one. All the Tarquins coming into contact with rough German fellows, who may have had a beer and were signing. Loudly too. All very scary what-what.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 16, 2017, 12:30:25 PM
For anyone interested, Deeping v Kidderminster in the FA Cup is live here http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/football/41150856

Come on Deeping!!!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 16, 2017, 12:33:30 PM
Added bonus, Deeping play in claret and blue! Their record attendance before today is 635.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on September 16, 2017, 12:55:21 PM
Mon Harriers.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 16, 2017, 01:00:00 PM
SOTK
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on September 16, 2017, 02:22:25 PM
Four-two to the Mighty Aggborons, as everyone calls them.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: SoccerHQ on September 16, 2017, 03:04:26 PM
Boro already conceded a goal today.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: jwarry on September 16, 2017, 03:56:49 PM
As things stand we are 1 point off a relegation place and a win would only get us to 14th place. I'm getting really fed up of looking at league tables like that
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Nelson Lodge on September 16, 2017, 04:15:31 PM
Didn't take long for Bacuna to be moved from being a starter to a bench warmer at Reading. Along with the former injured Liverpool loanee Illori.

Toner in the Stevenage defence today. They are losing 2-0 at HT, so that's going well.
Tshibola in the MK Dons team which is drawing at HT.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: VillaAlways on September 16, 2017, 04:16:25 PM
Daniel Johnson scores against Blues
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: garyshawsknee on September 16, 2017, 04:16:30 PM
Johnson just scored at the Sty !!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: jwarry on September 16, 2017, 04:16:38 PM
Nice one Johnson
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: garyshawsknee on September 16, 2017, 04:16:55 PM
Beat me to it VA !!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: VillaAlways on September 16, 2017, 04:20:23 PM
Preston 2-1 up
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 16, 2017, 04:20:25 PM
And got booked for his celebration.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on September 16, 2017, 04:20:26 PM
2-1 Amfy's All Stars at The Sty!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: VillaAlways on September 16, 2017, 04:28:10 PM
Preston 3-1 up now
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on September 16, 2017, 04:28:11 PM
Good old Daniel Johnson
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: CT on September 16, 2017, 04:28:24 PM
Always had a soft spot for PNE, especially now it's 3-1.  Had a girlfriend from Walton Le Dale many moons ago.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: jwarry on September 16, 2017, 04:28:30 PM
1-3 🤗
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on September 16, 2017, 04:28:42 PM
It's three. 😁
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: SoccerHQ on September 16, 2017, 04:32:35 PM
Preston could easily be this season's Huddersfield. They've had some superb results so far this season.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on September 16, 2017, 04:39:30 PM
For fuck's sake Clyde.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: passport1 on September 16, 2017, 04:42:20 PM
I think Citeah might win the Prem.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on September 16, 2017, 04:43:38 PM
Wolves are starting to concern me. 
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Chris Jameson on September 16, 2017, 06:33:42 PM
Wolves are starting to concern me. 

Might be best to keep the rabbits indoors.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Tuscans on September 16, 2017, 07:53:21 PM
I like the way in La Liga when a televised match will kick off at say 7:45pm and the coverage starts at 7:40pm on TV. Having 30 or 45 mins of prematch dross just kills me, same questions, same answers, same analysis etc....and Keown.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Tuscans on September 16, 2017, 07:53:40 PM
Wolves are starting to concern me. 

Might be best to keep the rabbits indoors.
That's a good one.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on September 16, 2017, 08:38:01 PM
Wolves are starting to concern me. 

Might be best to keep the rabbits indoors.
That's a good one.


I totallt agree, if they get to rampant the batteries wear out.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on September 16, 2017, 08:44:18 PM
Wolves are starting to concern me. 

Might be best to keep the rabbits indoors.
That's a good one.






I totally agree. If they get too rampant the batteries wear out.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: steamer on September 16, 2017, 09:11:20 PM
Wolves are starting to concern me. 

Might be best to keep the rabbits indoors.
watch out for the full moon.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: CT on September 16, 2017, 09:13:19 PM
Stay on the road. Keep clear of the moors.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 16, 2017, 09:17:10 PM
You made me miss, I never miss.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Pete3206 on September 16, 2017, 10:37:25 PM
New broom rallies the fans at Crystal Palace

(http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/624/cpsprodpb/51B1/production/_97831902_roy.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on September 16, 2017, 10:39:53 PM
New broom rallies the fans at Crippled Alice

(http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/624/cpsprodpb/51B1/production/_97831902_roy.jpg)


I like him and have fond memories of him from childhood TV but I'm not sure Derek Griffiths is the ideal choice as assistant manger.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: curiousorange on September 16, 2017, 11:50:20 PM
Just reading about the Liverpool fan slagging off Klopp on 606. What an almighty entitled prat that bloke must be.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Ads on September 17, 2017, 08:38:44 AM
Daniel Johnson winding up the Noses after scoring against them.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Risso on September 17, 2017, 08:53:13 AM
Daniel Johnson winding up the Noses after scoring against them.

Saw that.  Marvellous. 
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: VILLA MOLE on September 17, 2017, 08:56:00 AM
He set up one as well, he seems to be doing well at Preston
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Ads on September 17, 2017, 11:29:15 AM
Yes nice through ball. They carved them open like butter.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: VillaAlways on September 17, 2017, 05:48:51 PM
Anyone else enjoying Everton's shitness? Koeman is not as good as he thinks he is.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Sexual Ealing on September 17, 2017, 05:52:44 PM
I'd take him here!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 17, 2017, 05:59:37 PM
I enjoyed the second goal, mainly as Lukaku is my FL captain and Micky is also in my team.

Edit: Lukaku scored as well! Last I saw it was 2-0 late on.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: VillaAlways on September 17, 2017, 06:02:14 PM
I'd take him here!
According to him he's destined for Barcelona
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 17, 2017, 06:05:33 PM
I'd take him here!
According to him he's destined for Barcelona

Good to hear he's already decided were to go on holiday after he's sacked.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on September 17, 2017, 09:07:01 PM
Just reading about the Liverpool fan slagging off Klopp on 606. What an almighty entitled prat that bloke must be.

Listening to sports TV and radio last night and today the media's Klopp love affair appears to have ended.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on September 17, 2017, 09:12:30 PM
Anyone else enjoying Everton's shitness? Koeman is not as good as he thinks he is.
##


With De Boer and Koeman it hasn't been a great start to the season for Dutch managers.

I thought De Boers CV was relatively average but with Koeman's track record I think he deserves more time.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on September 17, 2017, 10:49:50 PM
Just watching the penalty given to Manu for handball  and wondering how the f*** we didn't get two pens yesterday for handballs much more blatant than Schneiderlin misdemeanour?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: adrenachrome on September 17, 2017, 11:13:59 PM
Just watching the penalty given to Manu for handball  and wondering how the f*** we didn't get two pens yesterday for handballs much more blatant than Schneiderlin misdemeanour?

That thought occurred to me as well.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: passitsideways on September 19, 2017, 05:36:03 AM
Just watching the penalty given to Manu for handball  and wondering how the f*** we didn't get two pens yesterday for handballs much more blatant than Schneiderlin misdemeanour?

That thought occurred to me as well.

I'm still upset about the two penalties we didn't get vs Arsenal in the cup final. The one on Grealish was an absolute stonewaller, you'd get the bin if it was rugby, and the one on Gabby (I think) was definitely a foul but might've been outside the area.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: OzVilla on September 19, 2017, 11:54:30 AM
I can't recall us actually crossing the half way line V's Arsenal in the Cup Final.

That game is dead to me.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: UK Redsox on September 19, 2017, 01:57:03 PM
Not an away cup draw that you really want to get

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41257024
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Matt Collins on September 19, 2017, 08:54:30 PM
With every week our point at Ashton Gate looks more respectable
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on September 19, 2017, 11:42:09 PM
Leeds are certainly looking like they mean business. Fantastic game and result for them tonight. Sold out for Saturday at home to Ipswich. There's serious momentum building there, the bastards.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 20, 2017, 12:39:59 AM
Leeds are certainly looking like they mean business. Fantastic game and result for them tonight. Sold out for Saturday at home to Ipswich. There's serious momentum building there, the bastards.

Well that's what happens when a club gets £50m to spend on player transfers and wages.

Oh...
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Clampy on September 20, 2017, 07:16:25 AM
Leeds are certainly looking like they mean business. Fantastic game and result for them tonight. Sold out for Saturday at home to Ipswich. There's serious momentum building there, the bastards.

Well that's what happens when a club gets £50m to spend on player transfers and wages.

Oh...

About time to. They've been in this division for the last 10 years.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Ads on September 20, 2017, 08:50:05 AM
They've had a grand start. That momentum was checked the weekend mind. They've sold their best players and have a paper thin squad.

We'll see how they get on. They could be this years Huddersfield. They could be last years Leeds.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 20, 2017, 05:38:38 PM
Leeds are certainly looking like they mean business. Fantastic game and result for them tonight. Sold out for Saturday at home to Ipswich. There's serious momentum building there, the bastards.

Well that's what happens when a club gets £50m to spend on player transfers and wages.

Oh...

About time to. They've been in this division for the last 10 years.

A fear that many of us are starting to have about our future. We've thrown money at it. Like lots. Even hired a promotion expert and we aren't any further ahead than the day we dropped. That's the concern.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Clampy on September 20, 2017, 06:00:58 PM
Leeds are certainly looking like they mean business. Fantastic game and result for them tonight. Sold out for Saturday at home to Ipswich. There's serious momentum building there, the bastards.

Well that's what happens when a club gets £50m to spend on player transfers and wages.

Oh...

About time to. They've been in this division for the last 10 years.

A fear that many of us are starting to have about our future. We've thrown money at it. Like lots. Even hired a promotion expert and we aren't any further ahead than the day we dropped. That's the concern.

True but let's not slap them on the back and congratulate them on gaining momentum just to make us look poor. They've had a good start that's all. They've been out the top flight since 2003.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cheltenhamlion on September 20, 2017, 06:27:32 PM
Leeds are certainly looking like they mean business. Fantastic game and result for them tonight. Sold out for Saturday at home to Ipswich. There's serious momentum building there, the bastards.

Well that's what happens when a club gets £50m to spend on player transfers and wages.

Oh...

About time to. They've been in this division for the last 10 years.

A fear that many of us are starting to have about our future. We've thrown money at it. Like lots. Even hired a promotion expert and we aren't any further ahead than the day we dropped. That's the concern.

True but let's not slap them on the back and congratulate them on gaining momentum just to make us look poor. They've had a good start that's all. They've been out the top flight since 2003.

Yet were in the promotion race last year despite having bugger all to spend for years and a lunatic for an owner.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 22, 2017, 12:02:35 PM
Worth a watch for goals, a defender saving on the line with his nads, comedy defending from both sides, comedy misses, and a wonder strike for the non league Messi to win it.

Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on September 23, 2017, 01:40:59 PM
You can get as much as 22/1 on Palace winning at Citeh today.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Richard E on September 23, 2017, 01:52:46 PM
You can get as much as 22/1 on Palace winning at Citeh today.

I'm surprised they're not offering at least those odds on Palace getting out of their own half, let alone winning.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on September 23, 2017, 01:54:20 PM
You can get as much as 22/1 on Palace winning at Citeh today.

I'm surprised they're not offering at least those odds on Palace getting out of their own half, let alone winning.

Still decent odds on a three horse race. Not worth lumping big money on but a couple of quid would be worth it.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: pauliewalnuts on September 23, 2017, 03:29:04 PM
You can get as much as 22/1 on Palace winning at Citeh today.

I'm surprised they're not offering at least those odds on Palace getting out of their own half, let alone winning.

Still decent odds on a three horse race. Not worth lumping big money on but a couple of quid would be worth it.

Some of the best odds can frequently be had on whoever is playing Liverpool.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on September 23, 2017, 03:49:04 PM
You can get as much as 22/1 on Palace winning at Citeh today.
About 100/1 now.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on September 23, 2017, 03:58:25 PM
5.5 games played for Palace now. On course for 0 scored and 0 points, which is quite impressive.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: four fornicholl on September 23, 2017, 04:00:11 PM
5.5 games played for Palace now. On course for 0 scored and 0 points, which is quite impressive.
They need a Benteke type player to stop the rot.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on September 23, 2017, 04:11:30 PM
Everton losing at home to Bmouth. I think Koeman is going to be as big a loss to Barcelona as Martinez was to Real Madrid.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 23, 2017, 04:28:23 PM
3-0, i've a feeling Palace are biding their time so just stuck everything I own on them winning, I sure wouldn't like to lose that fiver so come on Palace!!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: VillaAlways on September 23, 2017, 04:41:38 PM
Leeds and Wolves both winning
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: curiousorange on September 23, 2017, 04:47:07 PM
Wolves are really beginning to piss me off.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: VillaAlways on September 23, 2017, 04:50:12 PM
Wolves are really beginning to piss me off.
Let me cheer you up, Barnsley have equalised
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: wittonwarrior on September 23, 2017, 04:50:29 PM
See lord lucan has scored for Man City
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: curiousorange on September 23, 2017, 04:52:38 PM
See lord lucan has scored for Man City

Delph will be playing for Palace in January.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: VillaAlways on September 23, 2017, 04:53:07 PM
Arrgh!! Wolves score at the death
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on September 23, 2017, 04:53:37 PM
Wolves score a last minute winner.  Fuckin hell.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on September 23, 2017, 04:54:13 PM
Open top bus parade tomorrow 10am start.  Blues draw at Derby.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: curiousorange on September 23, 2017, 04:54:37 PM
Still waiting for Wolves to realise they're not all that. Anytime, lads.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Dave on September 23, 2017, 04:55:15 PM
Arrgh!! Wolves score at the death

Look on the bright side, means more distance between us and the relegation places.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: VillaAlways on September 23, 2017, 04:55:20 PM
Shit results today
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: dave shelley on September 23, 2017, 04:56:33 PM
Wolves are really beginning to piss me off.
Let me cheer you up, Barnsley have equalised

And depress you again as they've won 2-1.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: McGraths Dry Cleaning on September 23, 2017, 05:31:07 PM
You can get as much as 22/1 on Palace winning at Citeh today.

I'm surprised they're not offering at least those odds on Palace getting out of their own half, let alone winning.

Still decent odds on a three horse race. Not worth lumping big money on but a couple of quid would be worth it.

Some of the best odds can frequently be had on whoever is playing Liverpool.

Yes Liverpool (and Utd) are always too short as Asia and Glory hunters the world over pile in. Good games to trade as time decay markets can drop quite quickly if an early goal isn't scored.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on September 23, 2017, 05:37:13 PM
As my brother is flying I'll update you on Clyde.

1-0 up and conceded a 91st minute penalty. Bloke sent off as well. Drew 1-1 at home to bottom of the table Cowdenbeath  :-\
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Jon Crofts on September 23, 2017, 08:28:48 PM
I’m surprised that c*** Delph remembers what to do.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Villa75 on September 23, 2017, 08:37:13 PM
Great goal though.

To be fair, most predicted he'd be gone from Man City by now, not still part of the manager's PL plans.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on September 23, 2017, 09:39:04 PM
Yes he is part of the plan which says during the 5th league game of the season you may have to sit on the bench if injuries mean main squad players are not available and then if we are 4-0 up you will get last 10 mins as we may need to rest some players.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: LukeJames on September 23, 2017, 09:42:26 PM
Great goal though.

To be fair, most predicted he'd be gone from Man City by now, not still part of the manager's PL plans.

You crack me up.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Dave on September 23, 2017, 10:00:11 PM
Yes he is part of the plan which says during the 5th league game of the season you may have to sit on the bench if injuries mean main squad players are not available and then if we are 4-0 up you will get last 10 mins as we may need to rest some players.

And in an alternate universe, another Fabian Delph is helping Glenn Whelan and Neil Taylor slog their way from Championship lower-midtable to Championship upper-midtable.

But the crazy fool went and threw that potential glory away.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: SoccerHQ on September 23, 2017, 10:03:00 PM
24 prem games in two and a bit seasons, even less than I was expecting.

Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Matt Collins on September 23, 2017, 11:19:25 PM
Watching MOTD and it's a fairly painful reminder of the gap between us and the top clubs

I wonder if it's ever been greater?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on September 23, 2017, 11:26:22 PM
Shame hodgson has only got two more games to save his job.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: dave shelley on September 24, 2017, 12:48:14 AM
Watching MOTD Swansea v Watford as poor as it was, I genuinely believe we couldn't compete with either.  Not with this manager anyway.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on September 24, 2017, 04:55:44 AM
As my brother is flying I'll update you on Clyde.

1-0 up and conceded a 91st minute penalty. Bloke sent off as well. Drew 1-1 at home to bottom of the table Cowdenbeath  :-\

Was busy waiting to be interrogated by Indian airport Gestapo when I heard this. Finding out Villa had won cheered me up somewhat, though. 😁
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Matt Collins on September 24, 2017, 09:58:51 AM
Watching MOTD Swansea v Watford as poor as it was, I genuinely believe we couldn't compete with either.  Not with this manager anyway.

We'd definitely need to improve

You'd hope we're already scouting the energetic centre midfielders and wide players we'd need if we do go up
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: SoccerHQ on September 24, 2017, 10:56:48 AM
It's all about momentum.

Newcastle team 1-11 is not as good as the team they went down with (Wjanduldum, Sissoko etc) but rather than the club getting used to losing year in year out like we did at prem level, they've had a season of winning 25 games and have now got that confidence when leading in games.

Haven't really signed anyone of note either.

Must admit though when Burnley-Huddersfield came on I did think I'd switched back to Channel Five by mistake!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: john e on September 24, 2017, 01:16:02 PM
Sheff Wed v Sheff Utd
proper derby like ours not some tv trumped up money club shit
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on September 24, 2017, 01:18:37 PM
Sheff Wed v Sheff Utd
proper derby like ours not some tv trumped up money club shit

United 1-0. I have backed the draw.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Ads on September 24, 2017, 01:18:38 PM
Great goal.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: dave shelley on September 24, 2017, 01:19:41 PM
Clever free kick.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Ads on September 24, 2017, 01:22:28 PM
We're now 9th as it stands.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: john e on September 24, 2017, 01:23:27 PM
We're now 9th as it stands.

Yay
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Ads on September 24, 2017, 01:27:12 PM
What's up?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: john e on September 24, 2017, 01:31:02 PM
What's up?

we are, moved up a space
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on September 24, 2017, 01:31:25 PM
2-0. Lean Clarke has now scored for both teams in this derby in his career.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Ads on September 24, 2017, 01:31:27 PM
Two nil.

Get in, earn me some coin! United play good stuff and I thought there would be a bit of September 2002 about this game. Wednesday fans so complacent.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: jwarry on September 24, 2017, 01:46:50 PM
Sheff U are a bit of a surprise package this year
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Ads on September 24, 2017, 01:54:32 PM
They're running them off the park in midfield.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: jwarry on September 24, 2017, 02:37:10 PM
Brooks looks useful
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: john e on September 24, 2017, 02:42:02 PM
that stopped them bopping up and down
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on September 24, 2017, 02:46:14 PM
Brooks looks useful

Doesn't he just. Never seen him before. Tidy little player.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on September 24, 2017, 02:49:30 PM
I am struggling with moving from 10th to 9th back to 10th again and now in 9th position every twenty minutes.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Axl Rose on September 24, 2017, 02:57:09 PM
Nice to see Enda Stevens doing well for himself, too.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Flamingo Lane on September 24, 2017, 03:04:17 PM
Enjoyed this game.  Though how many times do people in the South Stand need to be told there will be no exit onto Leppings Lane?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: john e on September 24, 2017, 03:08:46 PM
I wonder if you can exit by Leppings Lane they haven't made it clear enough
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on September 24, 2017, 03:12:44 PM
We've gone up one place in the league.  Added bonus!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 24, 2017, 03:16:03 PM
Sheff U are a bit of a surprise package this year

They are but it's also on the back of a promotion and the team chemistry it created. Great momentum.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on September 24, 2017, 03:43:30 PM
This chemistry is not working for Bolton and hopefully will stay dormant till after next Saturday.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on September 24, 2017, 03:55:25 PM
Sheff U are a bit of a surprise package this year

They are but it's also on the back of a promotion and the team chemistry it created. Great momentum.


No good for my bet as I went for the draw, but a great game to watch. I felt before the start of the season that both Sheffield clubs would be challenging for the play offs. In United's case I did feel their momentum would be a big factor.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: SoccerHQ on September 24, 2017, 04:46:16 PM
Nice to see Enda Stevens doing well for himself, too.

Yes didn't think he'd amount to much after leaving us but he's building a tidy career for himself.

Sheff Weds have spent a fortune upfront but they've neglected to sign any decent defenders after watching their back 4, gifted United two goals.

Sheffield United could easily finish top 6, got momentum after walking league 1 last season.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on September 24, 2017, 06:59:38 PM
Sheff Weds have spent a fortune upfront but they've neglected to sign any decent defenders after watching their back 4, gifted United two goals.
What they need is someone like Elphick or Richards may be both in January to realise their play off ambitions.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: aj2k77 on September 24, 2017, 09:22:34 PM
I think they could do with a hard worker like Hutton too.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on September 25, 2017, 02:02:28 PM
I don't think tonight's game will be much to write home about. Typical Albion solid performance lacking ambition and one of those nights Arsenal have fairly regularly at home where they struggle to break sides down and rely on a late goal to win it. 1-0.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PaulTheVillan on September 25, 2017, 08:12:42 PM
Great advantage from the referee there. Shame them lot couldn't finish it off :)
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: DB on September 25, 2017, 08:12:52 PM
Albion fans looked they only needed a people carrier to travel down.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on September 25, 2017, 08:22:24 PM
Foster crap positioning for the free kick. 1-0
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: jwarry on September 25, 2017, 08:23:23 PM
If I were a Baggie fan I'd be fuming with this ref
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Richard E on September 25, 2017, 08:25:49 PM
If I were a Baggie fan I'd be fuming with this ref

If you were a Baggie fan you'd lack the cognitive function to write on here, read or understand refereeing decisions.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: jcsutv on September 25, 2017, 08:55:27 PM
If I were a Baggie fan I'd be fuming with this ref
Agreed
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 25, 2017, 09:17:12 PM
4% in the Arsenal third. And they use the long throw as their main attacking option. Fucking crap seeing Fat Baz in that pisspot strip mind.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: saunders_heroes on September 25, 2017, 09:20:06 PM
Albion are incredibly dull to watch. I suppose that’s what you get when you sell your soul to the devil and employ Pulis.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on September 25, 2017, 09:25:10 PM
Unjust penalty hahahah...2-0
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: john e on September 25, 2017, 09:27:19 PM
i would normally be cross at the shit ref but as it them I'm finding it quite amusing
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Richie on September 25, 2017, 09:29:20 PM
I see the self proclaimed Pride of the Midlands have travelled in their thousands again !
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: London Villan on September 25, 2017, 09:34:23 PM
Mid table premier league under pulis, or the up and down championship performances we experience?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: VillaAlways on September 25, 2017, 09:34:27 PM
Fun fact. Lacazette has scored the same amount of goals so far as West Brom in the PL this season-4
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 25, 2017, 09:37:35 PM
Mid table premier league under pulis, or the up and down championship performances we experience?

I'd rather be in the Conference than have that baseball cap wearing twat nozzle in charge of us.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Richard E on September 25, 2017, 09:38:36 PM
Mid table premier league under pulis, or the up and down championship performances we experience?

I'd rather be in the Conference than have that baseball cap wearing twat nozzle in charge of us.
Amen!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: CT on September 25, 2017, 10:30:11 PM
Mid table premier league under pulis, or the up and down championship performances we experience?

I'd rather be in the Conference than have that baseball cap wearing twat nozzle in charge of us.
Amen!

Absolutely. It isn't going to be long before it says "It's all about getting to 40 points" under the club badge.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on September 26, 2017, 09:28:34 PM
Bolton player Felipe Morais sent off. So presumably won't play is on Saturday.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: LeeB on September 26, 2017, 10:52:29 PM
Bolton player Felipe Morais sent off. So presumably won't play is on Saturday.

He was ace on Championship Manager about 10 years ago, but I suspect his career hasn't taken the path his promise predicted if he's jobbing at Bolton now.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 27, 2017, 12:17:19 AM
Harry Kane is simply unstoppable right now. Unsurprising then that England haven't got the best out of him. Another brilliant hat trick tonight.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on September 27, 2017, 12:29:21 AM
Harry Kane is simply unstoppable right now. Unsurprising then that England haven't got the best out of him. Another brilliant hat trick tonight.


There seems to be a big debate at the moment as to whether he is 'world class' or not. He might not be a Maradona, Messi or Ronaldo but he could be a Lineker and score a decent amount of goals for England in tournaments.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Sexual Ealing on September 27, 2017, 12:44:22 AM
Harry Kane is simply unstoppable right now. Unsurprising then that England haven't got the best out of him. Another brilliant hat trick tonight.


There seems to be a big debate at the moment as to whether he is 'world class' or not. He might not be a Maradona, Messi or Ronaldo but he could be a Lineker and score a decent amount of goals for England in tournaments.

Messi hasn't proved to be a Maradona, so it's fair to say that Kane won't.

I think most people would settle for a Lineker though!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on September 27, 2017, 12:47:47 AM
Harry Kane is simply unstoppable right now. Unsurprising then that England haven't got the best out of him. Another brilliant hat trick tonight.


There seems to be a big debate at the moment as to whether he is 'world class' or not. He might not be a Maradona, Messi or Ronaldo but he could be a Lineker and score a decent amount of goals for England in tournaments.

Messi hasn't proved to be a Maradona, so it's fair to say that Kane won't.

I think most people would settle for a Lineker though!

Wouldn't you say Messi is a better player than Maradona was?

Personally I discount world cups and international football as its always been a bit of a lottery and of a lower standard than top club football.

Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Sexual Ealing on September 27, 2017, 01:00:40 AM
Harry Kane is simply unstoppable right now. Unsurprising then that England haven't got the best out of him. Another brilliant hat trick tonight.


There seems to be a big debate at the moment as to whether he is 'world class' or not. He might not be a Maradona, Messi or Ronaldo but he could be a Lineker and score a decent amount of goals for England in tournaments.

Messi hasn't proved to be a Maradona, so it's fair to say that Kane won't.

I think most people would settle for a Lineker though!

Wouldn't you say Messi is a better player than Maradona was?

Personally I discount world cups and international football as its always been a bit of a lottery and of a lower standard than top club football.



Absolutely not. Maradona is the single greatest player to adorn grass. I love him, he was my first hero. I may be a bit biased. Messi's wonderful, but nobody's trying to break his legs.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on September 27, 2017, 01:07:44 AM
I agree with SE. Maradonna is the standout greatest footballer from last 40 years. Only Zidane came close to him. Messi and Ronaldo not even close.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on September 27, 2017, 02:17:01 AM
Messi is much better than Zidane. So is Ronaldo, probably.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: FatSam on September 27, 2017, 03:21:40 AM
Early days but we're currently the highest placed team who've been relegated from the PL in the last two seasons (other than Newcastle obviously). Sunderland seem to be struggling even more than we did last year.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: lovejoy on September 27, 2017, 07:14:36 AM
What's Kane actually won? Also scoring 3 against Apoel Nicosia is the equivalent of a qualifying international match. Doing it against the big boys and s where we it counts.

Re Maradona - he took an average international team and an underperforming club side to the top. Messi is great but he's surrounded by the best.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on September 27, 2017, 08:50:24 AM
Harry Kane is simply unstoppable right now. Unsurprising then that England haven't got the best out of him. Another brilliant hat trick tonight.


There seems to be a big debate at the moment as to whether he is 'world class' or not. He might not be a Maradona, Messi or Ronaldo but he could be a Lineker and score a decent amount of goals for England in tournaments.

Messi hasn't proved to be a Maradona, so it's fair to say that Kane won't.

I think most people would settle for a Lineker though!

Wouldn't you say Messi is a better player than Maradona was?

Personally I discount world cups and international football as its always been a bit of a lottery and of a lower standard than top club football.



Absolutely not. Maradona is the single greatest player to adorn grass. I love him, he was my first hero. I may be a bit biased. Messi's wonderful, but nobody's trying to break his legs.


I never actually 'liked' Maradona but as a player he practically single handedly won the league and UEFA cup in a reasonably limited Napoli team that wouldn't have achieved anywhere near that without him. He also turned an admittedly decent Argentina side into World Cup winners with his skill (especially his great goals in the quarters and semis against England and Belgium) and his 'streetwiseness' (the Argies actually have a word for it in Spanish which basically means legitimate/crafty cheating but I can't remember the word) for the hand of God goal. His talent and bloody mindedness also got a very average Argentina team to another final four years later.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on September 27, 2017, 08:51:26 AM
Middlesbrough and Monaco each spoiled my two accas last night.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Hookeysmith on September 27, 2017, 01:31:05 PM
Harry Kane is simply unstoppable right now. Unsurprising then that England haven't got the best out of him. Another brilliant hat trick tonight.


There seems to be a big debate at the moment as to whether he is 'world class' or not. He might not be a Maradona, Messi or Ronaldo but he could be a Lineker and score a decent amount of goals for England in tournaments.

I just hope he goes on to score more than Shrek for England - I hate the fact the thick, Granny shagging scouser holds the record
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Chris Jameson on September 27, 2017, 01:31:52 PM
I really like Harry Kane, not bad for a one season wonder. seems a decent sort too and provides much hilarity in Gangs of the EPL.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Pat McMahon on September 27, 2017, 02:16:57 PM
He also turned an admittedly decent Argentina side into World Cup winners with his skill (especially his great goals in the quarters and semis against England and Belgium) and his 'streetwiseness' (the Argies actually have a word for it in Spanish which basically means legitimate/crafty cheating but I can't remember the word) for the hand of God goal. His talent and bloody mindedness also got a very average Argentina team to another final four years later.

When i was in Argentina a decade ago i was told they call it "La viveza criolla" but would defer to one of our Spanish speakers
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: dcdavecollett on September 27, 2017, 07:09:36 PM
Who needs Lineker when you've got Gary Shaw?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 27, 2017, 07:54:11 PM
This Neymar kid looks useful. Set up a goal after a lovely run for PSG in the first minute vs Bayern. Maybe one of proper big teams will pick him up one day.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: SoccerHQ on September 27, 2017, 08:00:58 PM
Wolves down to 10 men.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: VillaAlways on September 27, 2017, 08:02:41 PM
Wolves down to 10 men.
Good
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: SoccerHQ on September 27, 2017, 08:26:11 PM
Took a while but Sheffield United 1-0 Wolves.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on September 27, 2017, 08:29:21 PM
This Neymar kid looks useful. Set up a goal after a lovely run for PSG in the first minute vs Bayern. Maybe one of proper big teams will pick him up one day.
Can't see us signing him in the near future.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Richard E on September 27, 2017, 09:04:12 PM
Wolves down to 10 men.

They've also missed a penalty and had an ex player score twice against them.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: saunders_heroes on September 27, 2017, 09:19:31 PM
Sheff Utd 2 Wolves 0.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: QuintonVilla on September 27, 2017, 09:39:34 PM
Good result for us tonight at Small Heath.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on September 27, 2017, 09:50:57 PM
Wednesday manager will be available soon.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Richard E on September 27, 2017, 09:52:10 PM
Good result for us tonight at Small Heath.

And they only had 38% possession...
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: aj2k77 on September 27, 2017, 10:02:55 PM
Good result for us tonight at Small Heath.

And they only had 38% possession...

Because they're shit and jammed a win.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: LeeB on September 27, 2017, 10:30:21 PM
Good result for us tonight at Small Heath.

And they only had 38% possession...

Because they're shit and jammed a win.

A favourable win for our recently launched promotion juggernaut.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: QuintonVilla on September 27, 2017, 10:40:39 PM
Exactly. Wednesday will sack their manager and be in the mix at the end of the season. Small Heath will be nowhere near us.

Good result for us at Bramall Lane aswell. Wolves will be above Sheff Utd at the end of the season.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Bren'd on September 27, 2017, 10:43:55 PM
I agree with SE. Maradonna is the standout greatest footballer from last 40 years. Only Zidane came close to him. Messi and Ronaldo not even close.

In the words of John McEnroe " You can not be...
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on September 27, 2017, 11:08:11 PM
According to sha their promotion bus is being filled with diesel.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Clampy on September 27, 2017, 11:14:45 PM
According to sha their promotion bus is being filled with diesel.

Will it breakdown in Sherlock Street?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: LeeB on September 27, 2017, 11:23:42 PM
According to sha their promotion bus is being filled with diesel.

Will it breakdown in Sherlock Street?

No but it will empty anywhere past Derby.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on September 28, 2017, 12:51:38 AM
According to sha their promotion bus is being filled with diesel.

You can guarantee it is a petrol bus and therefore will soon grind to a standstill.

Sheffield Wednesday's manager hasn't had a good week has he? I bet he is dreading seeing the chairman's number come up on his mobile before the weekend.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on September 28, 2017, 12:52:49 AM
Nice to see some surprise results in the Champions League.

Even if it did mean my acca crashed and burned.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Mister E on September 28, 2017, 05:31:12 AM
Re Sheffield Utd, I notice that Edna Stevens is in their team ...
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on September 28, 2017, 09:35:49 AM
Harry Kane is simply unstoppable right now. Unsurprising then that England haven't got the best out of him. Another brilliant hat trick tonight.


There seems to be a big debate at the moment as to whether he is 'world class' or not. He might not be a Maradona, Messi or Ronaldo but he could be a Lineker and score a decent amount of goals for England in tournaments.

Messi hasn't proved to be a Maradona, so it's fair to say that Kane won't.

I think most people would settle for a Lineker though!

Wouldn't you say Messi is a better player than Maradona was?

Personally I discount world cups and international football as its always been a bit of a lottery and of a lower standard than top club football.



Absolutely not. Maradona is the single greatest player to adorn grass. I love him, he was my first hero. I may be a bit biased. Messi's wonderful, but nobody's trying to break his legs.

Cheers for the answer! While I probably still lean Messi its amazing how both of them were so good for so long. Like there are good players, there are great players, then there are players who have an ability to hit this "god tier" button somehow and they don't just do these crazy almost impossible things once or twice in their career, they do it year after year. Its amazing.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on September 28, 2017, 09:54:11 AM
At club level Messi has already eclipsed Maradona having had more great seasons than Maradona, who along with his early years in Argentina had probably six excellent years at Lazio. He certainly hasn't overtaken Maradona at international level though.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Des Little on September 28, 2017, 04:49:13 PM
At club level Messi has already eclipsed Maradona having had more great seasons than Maradona, who along with his early years in Argentina had probably six excellent years at Lazio. He certainly hasn't overtaken Maradona at international level though.

Maradona was at Napoli.  You're thinking of Siniša Mihajlović.  Easily done, mind you
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 28, 2017, 06:19:50 PM
The other thing is you only ever see really the good stuff Maradona did, because of the lack of coverage then you won't see the games he was crap, which makes it hard to compare players from back then than now. Probably more coverage exists now of Aaron Roberts (defender for Bromsgrove Sporting) from the last couple of seasons than there is of Brian Little's entire career as an example.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on September 28, 2017, 07:30:47 PM
At club level Messi has already eclipsed Maradona having had more great seasons than Maradona, who along with his early years in Argentina had probably six excellent years at Lazio. He certainly hasn't overtaken Maradona at international level though.

Maradona was at Napoli.  You're thinking of Siniša Mihajlović.  Easily done, mind you


I knew it was Napoli (I believe he had a few mafia mates) so I have no idea why I put Lazio. Although Maradona was a bit on the chubby side so maybe I was confusing him with Gazza. ;)
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on September 28, 2017, 09:51:40 PM
Everton concede another 2 tonight against 10 men Apollon Limassol. 2-2
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on September 28, 2017, 09:53:56 PM
Watching Lyon v Atalanta.

That Bertrand Traore is a cracking player, I'm glad Chelsea sold him.

He's 22 and already has 42 caps for Burkina Faso.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: footyskillz on September 29, 2017, 12:05:26 AM
Everton under pressure 2-2 against 10 man side  Koeman struggling not getting the results.
Villa esqe in that they can't get right balance and right team and a manager who signed perhaps the wrong type of players for the style and balance of team. Not replacing lukaku was ludicrous. As is hailing Rooney to get them top 4 and signing Sigurdsson for 50 million playing him out of position .  That victory against Bournemouth gives Koeman time but seeing them think lacking
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: dave shelley on September 29, 2017, 09:30:06 AM
I see Everton have started negotiations with Gueye over a new contract.  It will be interesting to see how that develops should Everton continue to sink.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on September 29, 2017, 12:55:57 PM
Everton under pressure 2-2 against 10 man side  Koeman struggling not getting the results.
Villa esqe in that they can't get right balance and right team and a manager who signed perhaps the wrong type of players for the style and balance of team. Not replacing lukaku was ludicrous. As is hailing Rooney to get them top 4 and signing Sigurdsson for 50 million playing him out of position .  That victory against Bournemouth gives Koeman time but seeing them think lacking

I thought getting Rooney back as a talisman was a good idea as I still think he has plenty to offer. I am a big fan of Sigurdsson, but the transfer fee stunned me. The glaringly obvious problem is not even coming close to replacing one of the leagues most prolific scorers. Having said that, when you are an under pressure manager the last thing you need is Ashley Williams doing what he did last night.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: jwarry on September 29, 2017, 08:29:05 PM
Watching qpr Fulham, good game to be fair
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Rudy65 on September 29, 2017, 08:39:22 PM
Watching qpr Fulham, good game to be fair

It is. Decent quality from both. Freeman for QPR looks good. Good game
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: jwarry on September 29, 2017, 09:11:52 PM
Luongo looks a decent player, weren't we after him before he went to qpr?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on September 29, 2017, 11:38:56 PM
Watching qpr Fulham, good game to be fair

It is. Decent quality from both. Freeman for QPR looks good. Good game


Freeman has been known to make a catalogue of errors.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Richard on September 30, 2017, 12:58:57 PM
This Kane bloke is ridiculously good
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: saunders_heroes on September 30, 2017, 01:11:09 PM
This Kane bloke is ridiculously good

He’s just sheer class. Even his disallowed goal was a decent finish.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: QuintonVilla on September 30, 2017, 01:24:01 PM
Bet he's still shit for England at the World Cup.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: saunders_heroes on September 30, 2017, 01:29:50 PM
Bet he's still shit for England at the World Cup.

Let’s face it, barring one World Cup in ‘66 England have always been shit.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: dave shelley on September 30, 2017, 01:48:36 PM
Bet he's still shit for England at the World Cup.

Let’s face it, barring one World Cup in ‘66 England have always been shit.

Wrong!  England were very good in Mexico 1970.  But for a shit goalkeeper only in because Gordon Banks actually had the shits, England would have made the final.  I would argue that that England side was better than the one that one it.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Chris Jameson on September 30, 2017, 02:23:18 PM
Huddersfield supporters stuck with their team and were very sporting when Kane was substituted, think they know these aren't matches they are expected to win.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Ad@m on September 30, 2017, 02:38:34 PM
It doesn't half depress me to think that not too many years ago we were better than Spurs and then you see how good they are now.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Billy Walker on September 30, 2017, 02:41:24 PM
It doesn't half depress me to think that not too many years ago we were better than Spurs and then you see how good they are now.

Things will turn our way again.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Villa75 on September 30, 2017, 03:12:07 PM
Burton, again, proving what as shit team they are.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Villa75 on September 30, 2017, 03:13:05 PM
And Small Heath. 👍
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: old man villa fan on September 30, 2017, 03:45:25 PM
Bet he's still shit for England at the World Cup.

Let’s face it, barring one World Cup in ‘66 England have always been shit.

Wrong!  England were very good in Mexico 1970.  But for a shit goalkeeper only in because Gordon Banks actually had the shits, England would have made the final.  I would argue that that England side was better than the one that one it.

Quite right but also down to 'hit it with the wrong foot'.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Villa75 on September 30, 2017, 04:07:19 PM
Bet he's still shit for England at the World Cup.

Let’s face it, barring one World Cup in ‘66 England have always been shit.

Wrong!  England were very good in Mexico 1970.  But for a shit goalkeeper only in because Gordon Banks actually had the shits, England would have made the final.  I would argue that that England side was better than the one that one it.

Quite right but also down to 'hit it with the wrong foot'.

Less than two years later, with Banks in goal and most of the same England Team, West Germany beat us 3-1 at Wembley in The Euros.

England have been an "if only" team for 50 odd years, i.e. not good enough.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: CT on September 30, 2017, 04:36:58 PM
Agent Cotterill. Magnificent start. Keep it up. Message ends.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on September 30, 2017, 04:38:40 PM
Agent Cotterill. Magnificent start. Keep it up. Message ends.
Starts Monday I believe
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Villa75 on September 30, 2017, 04:47:16 PM
Small Heath losing 6-0!

That's how you beat shite teams!!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on September 30, 2017, 04:48:30 PM
Small Heath losing 6-0!

That's how you beat shite teams!!
He's gotta go... er
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: LeeB on September 30, 2017, 05:00:40 PM
Fair play, that's the very definition of a consolation goal for the rags.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on September 30, 2017, 05:35:25 PM
Snake starts for City
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: dave shelley on September 30, 2017, 06:11:39 PM
Bet he's still shit for England at the World Cup.














Let’s face it, barring one World Cup in ‘66 England have always been shit.

Wrong!  England were very good in Mexico 1970.  But for a shit goalkeeper only in because Gordon Banks actually had the shits, England would have made the final.  I would argue that that England side was better than the one that one it.

Quite right but also down to 'hit it with the wrong foot'.

Less than two years later, with Banks in goal and most of the same England Team, West Germany beat us 3-1 at Wembley in The Euros.

England have been an "if only" team for 50 odd years, i.e. not good enough.

50 odd years takes us back to 1966 which nullifies your argument doesn't it?  Two years later than 1970 and most of those same players plus Banks are two years older.  A lot changes in football in two years including West Germany on the cusp of being a very,very good side.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cheltenhamlion on September 30, 2017, 06:38:42 PM
Agent Cotterill. Magnificent start. Keep it up. Message ends.

I sent him a message saying something similar earlier. Apparently, I am a bellend!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Chris Jameson on September 30, 2017, 07:29:12 PM
Snake starts for City

To be fair to him, he had a great game.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on September 30, 2017, 07:44:38 PM
Chuffed with the Blues result. Apparently Harry Redknapp thinks they will comfortably finish above us, must be mad.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 30, 2017, 07:49:18 PM
Fucking hell Palace doing their utmost to be shitter than us in the PL. 7 straight defeats no goals scored -17 GD
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on September 30, 2017, 07:50:06 PM
Snake starts for City

To be fair to him, he had a great game.
Don't think I will be
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on September 30, 2017, 10:04:40 PM
Fucking hell Palace doing their utmost to be shitter than us in the PL. 7 straight defeats no goals scored -17 GD

I don't remember anyone going this many games without a point or even goal to start a season. Poor sods.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: LeeB on October 01, 2017, 12:15:15 AM
Fucking hell Palace doing their utmost to be shitter than us in the PL. 7 straight defeats no goals scored -17 GD

I don't remember anyone going this many games without a point or even goal to start a season. Poor sods.

My brother-in-law, my nephew and my niece gave seen every minute, travelling from Swadlincote.

Serves him right for taking the piss the last couple of years
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 01, 2017, 01:29:07 AM
Fucking hell Palace doing their utmost to be shitter than us in the PL. 7 straight defeats no goals scored -17 GD

I don't remember anyone going this many games without a point or even goal to start a season. Poor sods.

Apparently the first side in the history of the football league to start a season with 6 defeats and 0 goals. So they've increased it to 7 today, I reckon the should be aiming for at least 10, make it a challenge for anyone to beat in future.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: adrenachrome on October 01, 2017, 01:36:40 AM
Fucking hell Palace doing their utmost to be shitter than us in the PL. 7 straight defeats no goals scored -17 GD

I don't remember anyone going this many games without a point or even goal to start a season. Poor sods.

Apparently the first side in the history of the football league to start a season with 6 defeats and 0 goals. So they've increased it to 7 today, I reckon the should be aiming for at least 10, make it a challenge for anyone to beat in future.

With Saha and Benteke sidelined, Woy had his work cut out.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Scott Nielsen on October 01, 2017, 04:15:25 AM
The other thing is you only ever see really the good stuff Maradona did, because of the lack of coverage then you won't see the games he was crap, which makes it hard to compare players from back then than now. Probably more coverage exists now of Aaron Roberts (defender for Bromsgrove Sporting) from the last couple of seasons than there is of Brian Little's entire career as an example.

He was never crap. And maybe there was a lack of coverage in the UK but Serie A was huge then and televised most places.

There's been many a great player and I suppose one can certainly argue Messi in terms of pure, statistical career value but looking at peak value Maradona stands alone.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Des Little on October 01, 2017, 08:51:25 AM
Fucking hell Palace doing their utmost to be shitter than us in the PL. 7 straight defeats no goals scored -17 GD

I don't remember anyone going this many games without a point or even goal to start a season. Poor sods.

Apparently the first side in the history of the football league to start a season with 6 defeats and 0 goals. So they've increased it to 7 today, I reckon the should be aiming for at least 10, make it a challenge for anyone to beat in future.

You mean us don't you?!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on October 01, 2017, 09:08:25 AM
Woy gets the bullet when they lose and not score  against Chelsea in their next match.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: VillaAlways on October 01, 2017, 12:47:36 PM
Wednesday have a perfectly legitimate goal ruled offside to go 2-0 up against Leeds

They should be 4-0 up.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: paulcomben on October 01, 2017, 12:50:24 PM
Wednesday have a perfectly legitimate goal ruled offside to go 2-0 up against Leeds

They should be 4-0 up.

Yes the linesman should be fired. Abysmal decision.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Ads on October 01, 2017, 12:57:28 PM
First time I've seen Leeds. They look utter shite.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: paulcomben on October 01, 2017, 12:57:58 PM
2-0 to Owls, should be 6-0. Helpful to Villa.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: VillaAlways on October 01, 2017, 12:58:21 PM
Wednesday have a perfectly legitimate goal ruled offside to go 2-0 up against Leeds

They should be 4-0 up.


Yes the linesman should be fired. Abysmal decision.
2-0 and deservedly so
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: VillaAlways on October 01, 2017, 01:00:15 PM
First time I've seen Leeds. They look utter shite.
Always felt they might fall away.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on October 01, 2017, 01:08:00 PM
No no we should be quaking in our boots just thinking about these top 6 teams in the division.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: paulcomben on October 01, 2017, 01:23:52 PM
Agent Bannan hits the post. Leeds have been poor in this match.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Stu on October 01, 2017, 01:56:23 PM
3-0, great goal.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on October 01, 2017, 02:00:16 PM
Can't believe Leeds were promoted last week (according to their fans and the media) and yet we're now only a point behind them.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Stu on October 01, 2017, 02:13:21 PM
Wednesday could, and probably should, have had 5. Leeds were bumsmell.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: OzVilla on October 01, 2017, 02:21:28 PM
Just watched that now we've got the Championship back on Bein. Impressed with Wednesday but just shows how wide open for the taking this division is this season.

Leeds were diabolical and 3-0 didn't flatter Wednesday at all. To paraphrase FDR, there is nothing to fear this year except fear itself.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Chris Jameson on October 01, 2017, 02:40:51 PM
Can't believe Leeds were promoted last week (according to their fans and the media) and yet we're now only a point behind them.

Can't say I've heard any such claims but then again I live just over the border from West Yorkshire.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: LeeB on October 01, 2017, 02:43:54 PM
First time I've seen Leeds. They look utter shite.

I watched them Tuesday, they were garbage.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: LeeB on October 01, 2017, 02:46:42 PM
We have fuck all to fear in this league but ourselves.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Chris Jameson on October 01, 2017, 02:55:40 PM
Just seen on Twitter that as a result of the police brutality going on in Barcelona right now that the Barcelona match is to be played behind closed doors this afternoon.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 01, 2017, 02:59:24 PM
We have fuck all to fear in this league but ourselves.

I even thought that last year to be honest. We should have had enough with good management to go up or at the very least challenging for a play off spot. We have depth, talent and resources should we need it in January (FFP permitting). But we should be in with a shout come the end and if we are not it will our own fault.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: LeeB on October 01, 2017, 03:10:13 PM
We have fuck all to fear in this league but ourselves.

I even thought that last year to be honest. We should have had enough with good management to go up or at the very least challenging for a play off spot. We have depth, talent and resources should we need it in January (FFP permitting). But we should be in with a shout come the end and if we are not it will our own fault.

I'm beginning to think (hope?) that the so far very impressive Gerald Appleyard will act as a wise insurance against the team slipping in attitude and approach when there is a prize to play for.

In fact, all of the additions this summer are what I would look at as good characters and professionals. I think we will be much, much tougher mentally and my god it's about time.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 01, 2017, 03:44:42 PM
I haven't watched a lot of PL this season, and not meaning to get ahead of things or but looking at how much a side like Everton has lashed out in recent windows and really how average they are, what will it take for us to survive and become relevant? It feels like a scary number given how much bog standard players cost these days.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Villa75 on October 01, 2017, 03:54:29 PM
No no we should be quaking in our boots just thinking about these top 6 teams in the division.

Why?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on October 01, 2017, 03:54:32 PM
We have fuck all to fear in this league but ourselves.
This. If we don't go up automatically it will be our fault and not because there are teams with better players around.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on October 01, 2017, 03:55:44 PM
No no we should be quaking in our boots just thinking about these top 6 teams in the division.

Why?
Oh dear. Do you know it's very windy today?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Villa75 on October 01, 2017, 04:00:08 PM
No no we should be quaking in our boots just thinking about these top 6 teams in the division.

Why?
Oh dear. Do you know it's very windy today?

Eh?

I'm asking why you think "we should be quaking in our boots...."
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: saunders_heroes on October 01, 2017, 04:03:58 PM
No no we should be quaking in our boots just thinking about these top 6 teams in the division.

Why?
Oh dear. Do you know it's very windy today?

Eh?

I'm asking why you think "we should be quaking in our boots...."

I think he was being sarcastic.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Villa75 on October 01, 2017, 04:10:26 PM
But, from what I can see, nobody has suggested we should be quaking in our boots thinking about the top 6 teams?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: paulcomben on October 01, 2017, 04:13:55 PM
Oh dear. Koeman out then Everton offer Bruce riches?...!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on October 01, 2017, 04:14:41 PM
Surely that's Koeman gone now.  What a spectacular waste of the Lukaku money that looks.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 01, 2017, 04:23:06 PM
Not been a good year for Dutch managers so far has it?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on October 01, 2017, 04:55:46 PM
Surely that's Koeman gone now.  What a spectacular waste of the Lukaku money that looks.
Everton will not sack him unless they are in a relegation battle by Christmas.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on October 01, 2017, 05:00:03 PM
Surely that's Koeman gone now.  What a spectacular waste of the Lukaku money that looks.
Everton will not sack him unless they are in a relegation battle by Christmas.

Their plan is to get Wagner at the end of the season. That may have to be binned if they need an early replacement as he won't jump ship midseason.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 01, 2017, 05:00:13 PM
Stunning goal by Coutinho
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 01, 2017, 05:10:05 PM
1-1 now terrible defending even if the final touch was a bit jammy

What's with the nautical tattoo under Coutinho's left ear? Does he like it there from sailors?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on October 01, 2017, 05:23:54 PM
But, from what I can see, nobody has suggested we should be quaking in our boots thinking about the top 6 teams?
Obviously something is bothering you?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on October 01, 2017, 05:26:00 PM
Strange at Nou Camp today with no spectators allowed in.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: LeeB on October 01, 2017, 05:48:26 PM
Gives you an idea of what it would be like if the rags ever built their megabiggadandavilla stadium.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: SoccerHQ on October 01, 2017, 07:13:35 PM
Can't believe Leeds were promoted last week (according to their fans and the media) and yet we're now only a point behind them.

Can't say I've heard any such claims but then again I live just over the border from West Yorkshire.

Leeds are going up chants they sing every game?

They did it last season and it blew up in their faces.

Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Villa75 on October 01, 2017, 07:26:08 PM
But, from what I can see, nobody has suggested we should be quaking in our boots thinking about the top 6 teams?
Obviously something is bothering you?

Only your ludicrous suggestion that Villa should be quaking in their boots at the top 6.

That's as ludicrous as the top 6, watching our performance against Bolton, and "shitting themselves".

At least you seem to have understood what "top 6" means in the last 24 hours.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on October 01, 2017, 07:34:04 PM
I knew something was bothering you.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Stu on October 01, 2017, 07:42:10 PM
The Newcastle - Liverpool game was absolute shite. I can't see Liverpool troubling the title ever again, which is a shame.....
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Villa75 on October 01, 2017, 07:49:12 PM
I knew something was bothering you.

Your inability to understand a simple statement doesn't bother you? If you're a grown adult it should do. It might stop you trying, and failing, at sarcasm.

As I said. At least you finally understood what "top 6" means. That certainly bothered you yesterday.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Richard E on October 01, 2017, 07:49:53 PM
The Newcastle - Liverpool game was absolute shite. I can't see Liverpool troubling the title ever again, which is a shame.....

I know, devastating isn't it?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: saunders_heroes on October 01, 2017, 08:03:52 PM
Martin Tyler was beside himself with love today watching the 2 clubs he adores the most waxing lyrical about how great they both are. Apparently it’s one of life’s great mysteries why Newcastle haven’t won a trophy for about 50+ years. It’s quite simple, Martin, they’ve been shit for the vast majority of that time. Nothing to do with curses or bad luck, they’ve been shit.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on October 01, 2017, 08:05:11 PM
I knew something was bothering you.

Your inability to understand a simple statement doesn't bother you? If you're a grown adult it should do. It might stop you trying, and failing, at sarcasm.

As I said. At least you finally understood what "top 6" means. That certainly bothered you yesterday.
Yes thank you.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Chris Jameson on October 01, 2017, 08:06:00 PM
Can't believe Leeds were promoted last week (according to their fans and the media) and yet we're now only a point behind them.

Can't say I've heard any such claims but then again I live just over the border from West Yorkshire.

Leeds are going up chants they sing every game?

They did it last season and it blew up in their faces.



That's it?! They've also sung about being champions of Europe for decades. Every single football chant is taken literally these days and *insert team name here* are the greatest team, the world has ever seen etc?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Chris Jameson on October 01, 2017, 08:07:59 PM
I like Klopp but what the fuck was he doing spending £40 million on an Arsenal squad player who is no better than any of his midfielders when their defence is such a mess?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ChicagoLion on October 01, 2017, 08:48:12 PM
I like Klopp but what the fuck was he doing spending £40 million on an Arsenal squad player who is no better than any of his midfielders when their defence is such a mess?
All fell apart when Sarfamton would not roll over and sell them Dick Van Dyke.
Agree with you and Henry about the OX,pointless.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on October 02, 2017, 01:10:41 PM
Surely that's Koeman gone now.  What a spectacular waste of the Lukaku money that looks.


He might have got away with it if he had got Giroud in like he wanted. His apparent lack of a plan B when that didn't happen could cost him his job.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Chinchilla Bathhouse on October 02, 2017, 01:21:13 PM
Surely that's Koeman gone now.  What a spectacular waste of the Lukaku money that looks.


He might have got away with it if he had got Giroud in like he wanted. His apparent lack of a plan B when that didn't happen could cost him his job.

Considering he knew damn well that Lukaku was leaving well before the end of last season - and that he'd command a pretty whopping fee - it's staggering that Koeman failed to sign a replacement over the summer. If Giroud was his one and only target he's a complete berk.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Axl Rose on October 02, 2017, 01:38:43 PM
I knew something was bothering you.

Your inability to understand a simple statement doesn't bother you? If you're a grown adult it should do. It might stop you trying, and failing, at sarcasm.

As I said. At least you finally understood what "top 6" means. That certainly bothered you yesterday.

What on earth are you rambling on about?

Some basic manners wouldn't go amiss, by the way.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on October 02, 2017, 01:49:12 PM
Martin Tyler was beside himself with love today watching the 2 clubs he adores the most waxing lyrical about how great they both are. Apparently it’s one of life’s great mysteries why Newcastle haven’t won a trophy for about 50+ years. It’s quite simple, Martin, they’ve been shit for the vast majority of that time. Nothing to do with curses or bad luck, they’ve been shit.

It wasn't just Tyler. Talksport and MOTD were just as bad. The party line appears to be that it is one of the greatest fixtures in English football. Pretty much based on one game crucial to the title race twenty odd years ago.

A title race neither of them won or have since.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ktvillan on October 02, 2017, 02:22:12 PM
Well there were a few cracking games (well 2 or 3) between the two in the 90s when Newcastle were quite good and exciting for a bit but that's hardly enough to make a classic of the English fixture list.  More PL hype innit.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: saunders_heroes on October 02, 2017, 02:51:10 PM
I knew something was bothering you.

Your inability to understand a simple statement doesn't bother you? If you're a grown adult it should do. It might stop you trying, and failing, at sarcasm.

As I said. At least you finally understood what "top 6" means. That certainly bothered you yesterday.

What on earth are you rambling on about?

Some basic manners wouldn't go amiss, by the way.

That could be said about a lot of people on here so I don’t know why you’re just picking on Villa75.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Villa75 on October 02, 2017, 06:46:02 PM
I knew something was bothering you.

Your inability to understand a simple statement doesn't bother you? If you're a grown adult it should do. It might stop you trying, and failing, at sarcasm.

As I said. At least you finally understood what "top 6" means. That certainly bothered you yesterday.

What on earth are you rambling on about?

Some basic manners wouldn't go amiss, by the way.

That could be said about a lot of people on here so I don’t know why you’re just picking on Villa75.

Because I've only been on here a month, and need to 'know my place'.

I have yet to find out how long I need to wait before I am allowed to respond to attacks and snipes about being deceitful previous posters in disguise (it must be getting up to about half a dozen different ones by now).

Nothing gets said about that, of course.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Chinchilla Bathhouse on October 02, 2017, 07:22:16 PM
Villa75, I have always found that people will treat you in kind on this forum, regardless of how new a poster you are. Instead of being paranoid maybe you could bear that in mind. What you seem to have done here is the equivalent of going round to meet the new neighbours, farting loudly in their porch and then getting stroppy when they don't invite you in.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: West Derby Villan on October 02, 2017, 07:23:38 PM
Villa75, I have always found that people will treat you in kind on this forum, regardless of how new a poster you are. Instead of being paranoid maybe you could bear that in mind. What you seem to have done here is the equivalent of going round to meet the new neighbours, farted loudly in their porch and then got stroppy when they don't invite you in.

That's one hellova analogy CB, love it!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Chinchilla Bathhouse on October 02, 2017, 07:31:12 PM
Villa75, I have always found that people will treat you in kind on this forum, regardless of how new a poster you are. Instead of being paranoid maybe you could bear that in mind. What you seem to have done here is the equivalent of going round to meet the new neighbours, farting loudly in their porch and then getting stroppy when they don't invite you in.

That's one hellova analogy CB, love it!

Ta very much. Although my tenses were all over the place so I've corrected them.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Villa75 on October 02, 2017, 07:43:13 PM
I responded in kind to attacks on who I was or was not, just because I expressed a different view on subjects.

I dared to suggest that Villa might only get 4/5 points from the next three games and, I presume because I'm new, was classed as being overly negative and tedious, along with the ever so humorous "it must be xxxx" (version 6).

As I said. If someone can left me know how long need to be here, doffing my cap and saying "yes gov" before I can have an alternative opinion, then perhaps I can work out if it's worth the wait and the one sided attacks.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: john e on October 02, 2017, 07:52:00 PM
I responded in kind to attacks on who I was or was not, just because I expressed a different view on subjects.

I dared to suggest that Villa might only get 4/5 points from the next three games and, I presume because I'm new, was classed as being overly negative and tedious, along with the ever so humorous "it must be xxxx" (version 6).

As I said. If someone can left me know how long need to be here, doffing my cap and saying "yes gov" before I can have an alternative opinion, then perhaps I can work out if it's worth the wait and the one sided attacks.

I don't know who you are
But I can guarantee you've not been as negative about Bruce as me and I've been poking around here for over 10 years
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Villa75 on October 02, 2017, 07:59:23 PM
Christ! I hope I don't have to wait 10 years to have an alternative opinion!! 😂
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Richard E on October 02, 2017, 08:01:29 PM
Christ! I hope I don't have to wait 10 years to have an alternative opinion!! 😂

We'll be Champions League regulars by then so there'll be nothing for anyone to disagree or be negative about anyway.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: andrew08 on October 02, 2017, 08:13:50 PM
Mmm 4-5 points. We’re due handing out a stuffing to B’Lose so that’s 3 of em but I suppose that will depend on the first two games as to if it is a stuffing or just a win. That being the case Villa 75 is saying we will not beat either Wolves or Fulham and maybe even lose to one of them.

After 4 in a bounce that is a bit pessimistic mate, but boarderline acceptable I suppose. We’d actually be better off losing to B’Lose and taking the points of our direct rivals but  er no thank you!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on October 03, 2017, 05:53:57 AM

32:00
Goofball :)
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Axl Rose on October 03, 2017, 12:00:14 PM
I knew something was bothering you.

Your inability to understand a simple statement doesn't bother you? If you're a grown adult it should do. It might stop you trying, and failing, at sarcasm.

As I said. At least you finally understood what "top 6" means. That certainly bothered you yesterday.

What on earth are you rambling on about?

Some basic manners wouldn't go amiss, by the way.

That could be said about a lot of people on here so I don’t know why you’re just picking on Villa75.

I'm sure he isn't bothered about what I say.

Not picking on him, saunders_heroes. Merely expecting better manners towards other posters. There was no need for his comments.

But if any offence was caused, my apologies Villa75.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ktvillan on October 03, 2017, 10:52:39 PM
Villa75, I have always found that people will treat you in kind on this forum, regardless of how new a poster you are. Instead of being paranoid maybe you could bear that in mind. What you seem to have done here is the equivalent of going round to meet the new neighbours, farting loudly in their porch and then getting stroppy when they don't invite you in.

To be fair he does seem to have come in for some unfair stick and accusations of being SilhillVilla or whatever other previous posters have wound people up, simply for expressing what to me looked like valid opinions honestly expressed.  It's only paranoia if they're not out to get you...
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Chinchilla Bathhouse on October 03, 2017, 11:24:29 PM
Villa75, I have always found that people will treat you in kind on this forum, regardless of how new a poster you are. Instead of being paranoid maybe you could bear that in mind. What you seem to have done here is the equivalent of going round to meet the new neighbours, farting loudly in their porch and then getting stroppy when they don't invite you in.

To be fair he does seem to have come in for some unfair stick and accusations of being SilhillVilla or whatever other previous posters have wound people up, simply for expressing what to me looked like valid opinions honestly expressed.  It's only paranoia if they're not out to get you...

It was the 'needing to know my place' and the 'having to wait for permission to comment' stuff that I was referring to. Regardless of whether or not people have been unfair in their comments, he has not been denied his say. He has made his points without any intervention or obstacles, and I agree they're perfectly valid. I just find it pretty tedious when anyone claims they're not allowed a different view, as it patently isn't true.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on October 03, 2017, 11:33:25 PM
Villa75, I have always found that people will treat you in kind on this forum, regardless of how new a poster you are. Instead of being paranoid maybe you could bear that in mind. What you seem to have done here is the equivalent of going round to meet the new neighbours, farting loudly in their porch and then getting stroppy when they don't invite you in.

To be fair he does seem to have come in for some unfair stick and accusations of being SilhillVilla or whatever other previous posters have wound people up, simply for expressing what to me looked like valid opinions honestly expressed.  It's only paranoia if they're not out to get you...

It was the 'needing to know my place' and the 'having to wait for permission to comment' stuff that I was referring to. Regardless of whether or not people have been unfair in their comments, he has not been denied his say. He has made his points without any intervention or obstacles, and I agree they're perfectly valid. I just find it pretty tedious when anyone claims they're not allowed a different view, as it patently isn't true.


There are a couple of words for people who don't know their place and don't wait for permission to comment.

Not married. ;)

Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: pauliewalnuts on October 04, 2017, 10:54:18 AM
I responded in kind to attacks on who I was or was not, just because I expressed a different view on subjects.

I dared to suggest that Villa might only get 4/5 points from the next three games and, I presume because I'm new, was classed as being overly negative and tedious, along with the ever so humorous "it must be xxxx" (version 6).

Yes, but you are missing the context of that comment.

It was in the post match thread for a game we'd just (as in a few hours ago) won, completing four wins on the bounce and a 6 match unbeaten streak.

It wasn't the fact you thought we'd struggle in the next games that drew attention, it was that you expressed that view at that time. That's what people raised eyebrows at, and the general suggestion was to maybe just enjoy a rare run of wins.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: john e on October 04, 2017, 11:32:43 AM
if you take the view like me that Bruce is a massive carbuncle on the very arse of Aston Villa its impossible to get it right when we win or go on a winning run

If you come on saying negative things about Bruce people come out with the old accusations of
‘You don’t want Villa to win’
‘You enjoy Villa losing’
‘Cheer up your so negative all the time’

If you don’t say anything negative you come in for comments like
‘Bruce outers have all gone quiet ‘
‘Where have all the Bruce haters gone’

for the record I’m not fickle I never wanted him and still don’t, my mind doesn’t change with each result, he’s still a rubbish manager for the Villa imo

yes he’s capable of getting us into a play off place so is every other manager in this division and a lot of the ones in the division below he’s only doing badly what any number of managers with this squad could do

I still want Villa to win I still want us to get out of this shit league, if it has to be with him then so be it,
but I still think we will regret the day we never got rid of him when we could of

Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Ads on October 04, 2017, 11:57:16 AM
if you take the view like me that Bruce is a massive carbuncle on the very arse of Aston Villa its impossible to get it right when we win or go on a winning run



If that's what you think, then there isn't really any point you contributing, as we know what you think and there's no sensible discussion to be had.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: old man villa fan on October 04, 2017, 01:03:24 PM
if you take the view like me that Bruce is a massive carbuncle on the very arse of Aston Villa its impossible to get it right when we win or go on a winning run



If that's what you think, then there isn't really any point you contributing, as we know what you think and there's no sensible discussion to be had.

There is plenty you can discuss and comment on. As long as the view is not biased due to the overall view, participation in debates is welcomed (well, it is from me, anyway).
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Clampy on October 04, 2017, 01:11:14 PM
if you take the view like me that Bruce is a massive carbuncle on the very arse of Aston Villa its impossible to get it right when we win or go on a winning run

If you come on saying negative things about Bruce people come out with the old accusations of
‘You don’t want Villa to win’
‘You enjoy Villa losing’
‘Cheer up your so negative all the time’

If you don’t say anything negative you come in for comments like
‘Bruce outers have all gone quiet ‘
‘Where have all the Bruce haters gone’


Or the people who have backed Bruce get called 'Brulievers'.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ktvillan on October 04, 2017, 04:40:59 PM
Villa75, I have always found that people will treat you in kind on this forum, regardless of how new a poster you are. Instead of being paranoid maybe you could bear that in mind. What you seem to have done here is the equivalent of going round to meet the new neighbours, farting loudly in their porch and then getting stroppy when they don't invite you in.

To be fair he does seem to have come in for some unfair stick and accusations of being SilhillVilla or whatever other previous posters have wound people up, simply for expressing what to me looked like valid opinions honestly expressed.  It's only paranoia if they're not out to get you...

It was the 'needing to know my place' and the 'having to wait for permission to comment' stuff that I was referring to. Regardless of whether or not people have been unfair in their comments, he has not been denied his say. He has made his points without any intervention or obstacles, and I agree they're perfectly valid. I just find it pretty tedious when anyone claims they're not allowed a different view, as it patently isn't true.

I think if you read back through some comments on other threads his contributions have sometimes been met with some unnecessary derogatory comments such as being a troll, bluenose, annoying form poster etc.  I think he is only reacting to that when being sarcastic about permission to express an opinion. 
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: pauliewalnuts on October 04, 2017, 05:04:29 PM
if you take the view like me that Bruce is a massive carbuncle on the very arse of Aston Villa its impossible to get it right when we win or go on a winning run



If that's what you think, then there isn't really any point you contributing, as we know what you think and there's no sensible discussion to be had.

That's nonsense. We could very well say much the same about yourself, myself or any other regular poster you care to mention.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Ads on October 04, 2017, 09:02:39 PM
if you take the view like me that Bruce is a massive carbuncle on the very arse of Aston Villa its impossible to get it right when we win or go on a winning run



If that's what you think, then there isn't really any point you contributing, as we know what you think and there's no sensible discussion to be had.

That's nonsense. We could very well say much the same about yourself, myself or any other regular poster you care to mention.

Where have you or I posted that we don't care what xyz happens to do, our view is so entrenched and biased that it was formed before you could even judge the subject for yourself? That regardless of whether xyz is a success, it's irrelevant?

When we are bad, I say it. When we are good I take enormous pleasure in that and say it. I remain always hopeful. This is my hobby after all, be no point to it if I wasn't enjoying it.

Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 05, 2017, 07:47:25 PM
The NFL game at the weekend getting a bigger crowd at Wembley than the England game which could clinch qualification is quite amusing.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: UK Redsox on October 05, 2017, 08:03:22 PM
.....and that’s with the lowest tier of seats covered in tarps for the NFL
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on October 05, 2017, 08:04:05 PM
The NFL game at the weekend getting a bigger crowd at Wembley than the England game which could clinch qualification is quite amusing.


I agree with nine out of Southgate's starting eleven. Hart, Walker, Stones, Cahill, Dier, Henderson, Sterling, Rashford and Kane. But I would have had Rose and Lallana instead of Bertrand and Oxlade-Chamberlain. Having said that maybe they aren't fit. I haven't seen who the subs are.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Nev on October 05, 2017, 08:11:17 PM
The "fucking" England band must be among the stayaways from Wembley and my enjoyment has shot up 100%.

Hoddle to vanish next please.
Then Sterling perhaps and Oxlade-Whatsthepoint.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 05, 2017, 08:14:52 PM
Those that didn't turn up are the lucky ones.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Chinchilla Bathhouse on October 05, 2017, 08:18:24 PM
The "fucking" England band must be among the stayaways from Wembley and my enjoyment has shot up 100%.

I knew there was something different! Just couldn't put my finger on it. A vast improvement. Shame everything else is exactly as dull as ever.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 05, 2017, 08:33:34 PM
Rashford about the only positive, set pieces have been gash. Oxygen-Waste has been awful.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Pete3206 on October 05, 2017, 08:39:25 PM
Really looking forward to the World Cup now. All non England games of course. What a shower of crap.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Chinchilla Bathhouse on October 05, 2017, 08:47:57 PM
At least we shouldn't be going to Russia in a blaze of ludicrous hype about how we're going to win the thing. Even to the red tops it must be patently obvious that we need to lower our expectations. Maybe to just winning one group match. Or a throw-in.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 05, 2017, 08:49:46 PM
That list of missing England players was a who's who of mediocrity. And Alli.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 05, 2017, 09:01:13 PM
At least Sir Booby is there.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Pete3206 on October 05, 2017, 09:07:11 PM
Lingard? Who?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on October 05, 2017, 09:14:59 PM
Just switched on and looks as though I have missed all the excitement.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: UK Redsox on October 05, 2017, 09:18:09 PM
Ingurlund are going to stink up Russia 2018
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: UK Redsox on October 05, 2017, 09:27:45 PM
From Danny Baker in Twitter

This is the most depressing & desperate match involving a Slovenian since Melania married Donald Trump. #ENGSLO
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: St AustellAVFC on October 05, 2017, 09:29:26 PM
Had a job interview in north Devon today ( relocating with family) so staying over in my caravan alone watching the England game. Thankfully I’ve got absolute radio on for a bit of life...l jeez I hate international footy. Boring
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: CT on October 05, 2017, 09:35:24 PM
Clive Tyldsley, Glenn Hoddle, millionaires pretending to passionately play for their country....

Utter, utter dross.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Lizz on October 05, 2017, 09:36:20 PM
Kane scores.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on October 05, 2017, 09:37:18 PM
Even a blind squirrel....  England team not Kane.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 05, 2017, 09:39:05 PM
Absolute turd of a game despite the Kane goal.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on October 05, 2017, 09:40:28 PM
"You gotta be init to winit"
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: DB on October 05, 2017, 09:51:55 PM
Injuries aside....we are still crap
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on October 05, 2017, 10:03:25 PM
Scotland get a late winner. Just have to win away against Slovenia now....
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on October 05, 2017, 10:06:26 PM
Yes that was an excellent result for Scotland.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on October 05, 2017, 10:07:29 PM
At least we shouldn't be going to Russia in a blaze of ludicrous hype about how we're going to win the thing. Even to the red tops it must be patently obvious that we need to lower our expectations. Maybe to just winning one group match. Or a throw-in.

The red tops will slag us off until A couple of weeks before the tournament starts. Then we will be one of the best teams in the world. Anyone would think they do it just to sell papers.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on October 05, 2017, 10:10:32 PM
The "fucking" England band must be among the stayaways from Wembley and my enjoyment has shot up 100%.

Hoddle to vanish next please.
Then Sterling perhaps and Oxlade-Whatsthepoint.

I like Glenda. He makes me smile. He is slowly turning his crucifying (sorry for the religious reference Glenda) of the English language into Professor Stanley Unwin proportions.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: devilla on October 06, 2017, 01:05:20 AM
Looks like I made the right decision to go to see the new Blade Runner film instead of watching our national show yet again how terrible they are.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Tony Erdington on October 06, 2017, 08:13:54 AM
Looks like I made the right decision to go to see the new Blade Runner film instead of watching our national show yet again how terrible they are.

was it any good?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on October 06, 2017, 09:23:07 AM
Looks like I made the right decision to go to see the new Blade Runner film instead of watching our national show yet again how terrible they are.

was it any good?

Terrible mate. I think England would've been booed off had it not been for Kane's late goal.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: garyshawsknee on October 06, 2017, 09:41:51 AM
I'm luckily away on holiday and have only just read about it. Confirms my view of " What is the point of Jordan Henderson?" If Delph hadn't been a weasel in search of money, he'd be an England regular by now, least he always tried to pass the ball forward....but he made his bed, so fcuk him.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on October 06, 2017, 10:03:38 AM
Gareth Southgate says his England side remain "a work in progress" and warned they "won't become Spain in eight months" after they qualified for next summer's World Cup in Russia.

You don't say.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: darren woolley on October 06, 2017, 12:42:26 PM
It was a boring game played by England we were rubbish if we play like that in Russia we will be a laughing stock.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Small Rodent on October 06, 2017, 01:02:20 PM
England are nailed on to win the World Cup. I'm off to dance in a Trafalgar Square fountain already.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: usav on October 06, 2017, 03:10:49 PM
Normally we look decent in qualifiers and then rubbish in the tournaments.  Maybe we are going to switch that around this time.......

I'll get me coat.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Risso on October 06, 2017, 03:26:01 PM
England 38 (thirty eight!) games unbeaten in qualifiers.  There haven't been any games against recognised big teams in that run, and most have been against minnows like San Marino, Scotland, Moldova and Wales, so it shows that England are the very definition of flat track bullies.  Qualify easily against non entity teams, but then shit the bed every single time at the finals as soon as they meet anybody decent.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: john e on October 06, 2017, 03:28:10 PM
20 years ago maybe there was a lot of hysteria over the England team doing well in tournaments but nowadays no one expects us to do any good

We went out to Iceland last time ffs

The press whip nothing up they are the biggest critics
I still watch England games (tv) and want us to do well but we have a very average side and just getting out of the group stages would be a good result in Russia, I don’t think that’s getting to carried away but won’t be surprised if we fail to do even that again

Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 06, 2017, 03:29:27 PM
England 38 (thirty eight!) games unbeaten in qualifiers.  There haven't been any games against recognised big teams in that run, and most have been against minnows like San Marino, Scotland, Moldova and Wales, so it shows that England are the very definition of flat track bullies.  Qualify easily against non entity teams, but then shit the bed every single time at the finals as soon as they meet anybody decent.

Not. Biting.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on October 06, 2017, 04:43:25 PM
England 38 (thirty eight!) games unbeaten in qualifiers.  There haven't been any games against recognised big teams in that run, and most have been against minnows like San Marino, Scotland, Moldova and Wales, so it shows that England are the very definition of flat track bullies.  Qualify easily against non entity teams, but then shit the bed every single time at the finals as soon as they meet anybody decent.

Last two tournaments - played 7, won 1. Says it all. (And the teams we failed to beat included Costa Rica, Slovakia and Iceland).
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 06, 2017, 05:13:29 PM
This for me still sums up just how poor England have been at tournaments.

How's this for a stat, we've won 6 Euro/WC knockout games since 1966. Paraguay (1986), Belgium and Cameroon (1990), Spain (1996), Denmark (2002) and Ecuador (2006). Spain remains our only ever knockout win in the Euros.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 06, 2017, 05:52:04 PM
Even that wasn't a proper "win".
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: VILLA MOLE on October 06, 2017, 06:14:45 PM
Good finish by Lawerence for Wales there
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: saunders_heroes on October 06, 2017, 07:48:19 PM
Ireland 1-0 up.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Matt Collins on October 06, 2017, 08:11:28 PM
Ireland 1-0 up.

Yep. And Whelan not playing which is good for us (and probably for Ireland)
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: SoccerHQ on October 06, 2017, 08:33:00 PM
Really can't see that ROI 11 beating Wales.

Even then they could well miss out as the worst second place team.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on October 06, 2017, 08:33:13 PM
Bjarnason scored the second for Iceland with a very good finish
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: devilla on October 06, 2017, 09:57:42 PM
Looks like I made the right decision to go to see the new Blade Runner film instead of watching our national show yet again how terrible they are.

was it any good?

I thought it was amazing. Great visuals and acting and storyline followed on from the original really well. The future in this film looks even more bleak than England's world cup prospects.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on October 06, 2017, 10:32:18 PM
Looks like I made the right decision to go to see the new Blade Runner film instead of watching our national show yet again how terrible they are.

Not my cup of tea. I will wait for the 'Blade Runner Killer' film that is out in November, I believe. Unless Oscar Pistorius' family succeed in getting it banned.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ktvillan on October 06, 2017, 11:39:32 PM
England 38 (thirty eight!) games unbeaten in qualifiers.  There haven't been any games against recognised big teams in that run, and most have been against minnows like San Marino, Scotland, Moldova and Wales, so it shows that England are the very definition of flat track bullies.  Qualify easily against non entity teams, but then shit the bed every single time at the finals as soon as they meet anybody decent.

Or Iceland
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on October 06, 2017, 11:50:20 PM
20 years ago maybe there was a lot of hysteria over the England team doing well in tournaments but nowadays no one expects us to do any good

We went out to Iceland last time ffs

The press whip nothing up they are the biggest critics
I still watch England games (tv) and want us to do well but we have a very average side and just getting out of the group stages would be a good result in Russia, I don’t think that’s getting to carried away but won’t be surprised if we fail to do even that again

Agreed. While I refuse to lower my expectations for Villa its just not a choice with England. We are not a top tier footballing country at the international level. While getting a foreign manager will help us on the coaching front our player ability level is just second rate.

Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on October 07, 2017, 12:10:47 AM
England 38 (thirty eight!) games unbeaten in qualifiers.  There haven't been any games against recognised big teams in that run, and most have been against minnows like San Marino, Scotland, Moldova and Wales, so it shows that England are the very definition of flat track bullies.  Qualify easily against non entity teams, but then shit the bed every single time at the finals as soon as they meet anybody decent.

Or Iceland



Don't knock Iceland. I lumped onto them by quite an amount by my standards to beat Turkey tonight at odds of 3/1. Turkey 0 Iceland 3.

I won't lie. In between placing the bet a few days ago and tonight, I did look at said bet and wonder what the hell I had been thinking.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Louzie0 on October 07, 2017, 12:29:41 AM
I knew something was bothering you.

Your inability to understand a simple statement doesn't bother you? If you're a grown adult it should do. It might stop you trying, and failing, at sarcasm.

As I said. At least you finally understood what "top 6" means. That certainly bothered you yesterday.

That's a bit unfriendly, Villa75.


Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Risso on October 07, 2017, 07:51:06 AM
England 38 (thirty eight!) games unbeaten in qualifiers.  There haven't been any games against recognised big teams in that run, and most have been against minnows like San Marino, Scotland, Moldova and Wales, so it shows that England are the very definition of flat track bullies.  Qualify easily against non entity teams, but then shit the bed every single time at the finals as soon as they meet anybody decent.

Not. Biting.

Damn. Waste of a post! 😘
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: tomd2103 on October 07, 2017, 05:54:24 PM
England 38 (thirty eight!) games unbeaten in qualifiers.  There haven't been any games against recognised big teams in that run, and most have been against minnows like San Marino, Scotland, Moldova and Wales, so it shows that England are the very definition of flat track bullies.  Qualify easily against non entity teams, but then shit the bed every single time at the finals as soon as they meet anybody decent.

Wasn't going to bite Risso, but will that be the minnows Wales who currently reside high in the world rankings (I know they don't mean anything!) and are going into Monday's game having not lost a home qualifier for four years?  Those minnows?

As for England (as I do have a foot in both camps), it remains a mystery how they can get the job done so convincingly in qualifiers (the record really is very good) but struggle in the major competitions.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: exigo on October 07, 2017, 05:55:26 PM
I watched Adama Traore's Mali against Jonathan Kodjia's Ivory Coast. So you don't have to.
Utterly awful game.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AV82EC on October 07, 2017, 05:57:33 PM
England 38 (thirty eight!) games unbeaten in qualifiers.  There haven't been any games against recognised big teams in that run, and most have been against minnows like San Marino, Scotland, Moldova and Wales, so it shows that England are the very definition of flat track bullies.  Qualify easily against non entity teams, but then shit the bed every single time at the finals as soon as they meet anybody decent.

Wasn't going to bite Risso, but will that be the minnows Wales who currently reside high in the world rankings (I know they don't mean anything!) and are going into Monday's game having not lost a home qualifier for four years?  Those minnows?

As for England (as I do have a foot in both camps), it remains a mystery how they can get the job done so convincingly in qualifiers (the record really is very good) but struggle in the major competitions.

No mystery about it, we’re not good enough and haven’t been for about 25 years.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Pete3206 on October 07, 2017, 09:33:08 PM
Netherlands fail to qualify again.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on October 07, 2017, 10:06:36 PM
Netherlands fail to qualify again.

Probably because, as Matt Sammerface was keen to point out more than once in his commentary, they keep recycling the same managers. It is like competing on Pointless. If you do well but not quite well enough you automatically get another go. I didn't work for Albion in the seventies and eighties (Don, Johnny, Ronnie, Ron, Ronnie, Ron, Johnny, Ron and Ron) and it isn't working for the Dutch now.

Howe, Giles, Allen, Atkinson, Allen, Wylie, Giles, Saunders and Atkinson in case you were wondering. The sequence was totally ruined when they appointed Brian Talbot.


Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: JD on October 07, 2017, 10:12:09 PM
It's frustrating how boring England are to watch, compared with how exciting the U20s and U21s are to watch. What happens to these players when the step up to the full England team, it's like they have all the talent and excitement taken away from them. 
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on October 07, 2017, 10:21:20 PM
Netherlands fail to qualify again.
I thought all they need is to beat Sweden and job done?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on October 07, 2017, 10:23:07 PM
Netherlands fail to qualify again.
I thought all they need is to beat Sweden and job done?

I believe you are correct. They only need to sneak it by seven or eight goals.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on October 07, 2017, 10:50:17 PM
There is something about tonights Switzerland 5 Hungary 2 scoreline that makes me think the game and scoreline belongs back in the fifties. Timewarp football.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: rougegorge on October 07, 2017, 11:11:54 PM
I watched Adama Traore's Mali against Jonathan Kodjia's Ivory Coast. So you don't have to.
Utterly awful game.
That's not the ex-Villa Adama. It's Adama Traore who plays for Monaco, though not too often.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: rougegorge on October 07, 2017, 11:13:40 PM
There is something about tonights Switzerland 5 Hungary 2 scoreline that makes me think the game and scoreline belongs back in the fifties. Timewarp football.
..and the Swiss have won 9 out of 9 qualifiers and may still miss out on the World Cup.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: TB on October 07, 2017, 11:16:00 PM
There is something about tonights Switzerland 5 Hungary 2 scoreline that makes me think the game and scoreline belongs back in the fifties. Timewarp football.

I'd agree if tonight's scoreline was Hungary 5 Switzerland 2. The Mighty Magyars of the fifties...
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on October 08, 2017, 01:07:23 AM
Netherlands fail to qualify again.
I thought all they need is to beat Sweden and job done?

I believe you are correct. They only need to sneak it by seven or eight goals.
Dont exaggerate a 6-0 win would do with head to head result working in favour of the Dutch. ;D
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on October 08, 2017, 01:18:02 AM
There is something about tonights Switzerland 5 Hungary 2 scoreline that makes me think the game and scoreline belongs back in the fifties. Timewarp football.
..and the Swiss have won 9 out of 9 qualifiers and may still miss out on the World Cup.
Well if they don't beat Portugal on Tuesday hard cheese.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: TheMalandro on October 08, 2017, 09:10:03 AM
There is something about tonights Switzerland 5 Hungary 2 scoreline that makes me think the game and scoreline belongs back in the fifties. Timewarp football.
..and the Swiss have won 9 out of 9 qualifiers and may still miss out on the World Cup.
Well if they don't beat Portugal on Tuesday hard cheese.

Don't encourage the cheese pun.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Villa75 on October 08, 2017, 09:49:31 AM
It's frustrating how boring England are to watch, compared with how exciting the U20s and U21s are to watch. What happens to these players when the step up to the full England team, it's like they have all the talent and excitement taken away from them.

It's really not the same though.

It's like Villa players looking good with our U23 and U18 sides, and then being asked to play in the PL.

England U20's are often playing against U18/19's from the likes of Spain and Germany - as their players have progressed upwards. England U21's are often playing against U19/20's, etc.

We are a level or two behind at every stage, when compared to the top nations. This is why our success at lower level never translates to the senior England side.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: passitsideways on October 08, 2017, 10:17:22 AM
It's frustrating how boring England are to watch, compared with how exciting the U20s and U21s are to watch. What happens to these players when the step up to the full England team, it's like they have all the talent and excitement taken away from them.

It's really not the same though.

It's like Villa players looking good with our U23 and U18 sides, and then being asked to play in the PL.

England U20's are often playing against U18/19's from the likes of Spain and Germany - as their players have progressed upwards. England U21's are often playing against U19/20's, etc.

We are a level or two behind at every stage, when compared to the top nations. This is why our success at lower level never translates to the senior England side.

Is that the stage where the narrative is at now? I thought it was meant to be that the talent pool is so crap at senior level that any half-decent U21 player gets fast-tracked.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Villa75 on October 08, 2017, 10:39:01 AM
Perhaps, we are so bereft, we are having to use some young players for both?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: saunders_heroes on October 08, 2017, 11:33:40 AM
Coventry fans singing “shit on the Villa” right now in their game against little Barnet. Bless ‘em, I thought they’d forgotten about us.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: LeeB on October 08, 2017, 12:36:11 PM
Coventry fans singing “shit on the Villa” right now in their game against little Barnet. Bless ‘em, I thought they’d forgotten about us.

Think that's why they have a bloody elephant on their badge, so they never forget.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: dave shelley on October 08, 2017, 12:40:53 PM
Coventry fans singing “shit on the Villa” right now in their game against little Barnet. Bless ‘em, I thought they’d forgotten about us.

I heard that too.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Risso on October 08, 2017, 12:44:43 PM
Coventry fans singing “shit on the Villa” right now in their game against little Barnet. Bless ‘em, I thought they’d forgotten about us.

Think that's why they have a bloody elephant on their badge, so they never forget.

They'll be back....in League 1 in a couple of years if they're lucky.  Bollocks to them and their stupid ring road.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Pete3206 on October 08, 2017, 01:41:54 PM
I'd like them back in the same league as us eventually, so we can resume the formalities of beating them every season.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on October 08, 2017, 02:47:30 PM
Coventry fans singing “shit on the Villa” right now in their game against little Barnet. Bless ‘em, I thought they’d forgotten about us.

Sad lot probably dream of the day another Midlands club cares enough about them to sing shit on the Coventry during a game they aren't involved in.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: wittonwarrior on October 08, 2017, 03:16:15 PM
Crap town, poor support (unless playing at Wembley) - taking  Leeds United out of the equation the first attempt at  building a modern football club as per Jimmy Hill in the early - mid 60's.    Just shows that History and tradition does mean something.  Without a sound base you will sink eventually.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on October 08, 2017, 04:03:13 PM
Coventry fans singing “shit on the Villa” right now in their game against little Barnet. Bless ‘em, I thought they’d forgotten about us.

Oh right Coventry, our "rivals".
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Des Little on October 08, 2017, 04:15:58 PM
They have far bigger things to worry about than us, like being without a ground to play in soon and and not having the proverbial pot to to piss in.  Bollocks to them and their batches.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on October 08, 2017, 04:17:18 PM
U17s World Cup in India

England 4  Chile 0

Some great football played by England, good goals and an outfield player having to go in goal after the Chile keeper was sent off and all subs had been used.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: SoccerHQ on October 08, 2017, 05:06:40 PM
Oscar Borg starting for Malta.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: devilla on October 08, 2017, 05:15:15 PM
There's an England playing in black boots. Yes, not pink, red or yellow but proper black boots. Good to see.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Rudy65 on October 08, 2017, 05:18:36 PM
Any englishmen supporting the scots? I am
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: devilla on October 08, 2017, 05:27:49 PM
Kane a bit fortunate with that penalty, in off the post.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Lizz on October 08, 2017, 06:09:38 PM
Scotland now drawing.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ChicagoLion on October 08, 2017, 06:09:38 PM
Oh dear Scotland
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: IAmTheOneIanOlney on October 08, 2017, 06:12:00 PM
Jordan Henderson's determination is impressive. However poor the opposition, he always works so hard to make sure he's the worst player on the pitch.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Pete3206 on October 08, 2017, 06:29:48 PM
Lights out for Scotland
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: four fornicholl on October 08, 2017, 06:40:19 PM
Any englishmen supporting the scots? I am
Not me sorry.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ChicagoLion on October 08, 2017, 06:45:06 PM
Snodgrass
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Pete3206 on October 08, 2017, 06:45:56 PM
Snoddy gives them a bit of hope
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on October 08, 2017, 07:05:52 PM
I don't usually knock England on days like this. I am pragmatic about just getting the job done and getting the points. But Jeez that game was like watching paint dry.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: CT on October 08, 2017, 07:19:13 PM
Definitely the most dismal England game I've seen since last Thursday.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Risso on October 08, 2017, 07:27:03 PM
So the plucky Scots fail to qualify again.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on October 08, 2017, 07:27:19 PM
Definitely the most dismal England game I've seen since last Thursday.

I was keeping one eye on the England game on the telly and one eye on the Flash Scores website hoping Armenia would beat Khazakhstan and win me a few quid. I got more excitement checking out the up to date score in that game. Even though I didn't win.











Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on October 08, 2017, 07:33:26 PM
So the plucky Scots fail to qualify again.

As a kid I used to support all of the home nations. Then I realised at least a couple of them didn't like us. Now, due to parentage I just root for England and the Republic of Ireland.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Pete3206 on October 08, 2017, 08:48:55 PM
Would have been pleased for them to get into the play offs, but now they're out, meh.

Wales v Ireland should be a belter.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on October 08, 2017, 11:02:28 PM
Wales v Ireland should be a belter.
Yes looking forward to that however being 11/57 Welsh and 14/69 Irish I am split right down the middle...errr ok not quite middle but!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: TonyD on October 08, 2017, 11:31:09 PM
Documentary on  Bobby Charlton on BBC1.   Started watching live games ie going down the Holte in 1979, so didn’t get to see much of him.  But my god watching this program, he was some player.   He could hit a ball .........
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 08, 2017, 11:33:59 PM
The BBC showing a documentary about a Man United player? Shocked at this development.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: TonyD on October 08, 2017, 11:42:18 PM
The BBC showing a documentary about a Man United player? Shocked at this development.
I think as Charlton is 80 AND a key player in ‘66 then I can excuse the BBC.  It was an decent watch. 
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Pete3206 on October 08, 2017, 11:43:16 PM
The BBC showing a documentary about a Man United player? Shocked at this development.

To be fair, the Beeb had a really good one on Chris Coleman on Saturday.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: thick_mike on October 09, 2017, 12:04:27 AM
Yeah, it was a good documentary...and he could hit a ball like a traction engine.

Have to admit a soft spot for Bobby as he looks very like my dad.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Comrade Blitz on October 09, 2017, 03:05:51 AM
Mods - can we merge this thread and International Football? Please?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: john e on October 09, 2017, 09:20:12 AM
Wales v Ireland should be a belter.
Yes looking forward to that however being 11/57 Welsh and 14/69 Irish I am split right down the middle...errr ok not quite middle but!

I have no connection to either
but I’ll be cheering for the Irish tonight
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: dave shelley on October 09, 2017, 09:39:45 AM
Bobby Charlton was a great player.  I saw him score a really superb goal against us at Villa Park in 1965.  We won 2-1 IIRC and I think they won the league that year.  He picked the ball up mid-way in his own half and beat half of our team in a mazy dribble and whacked it into the net from just outside the box.  The stadium stood and applauded.  Any old 'uns remember it?

According to the late Denis Howell MP former football league referee, he was a moaning fecker, amongst the worst he ever experienced.  He told me that personally as he was a member of our branch of the Referee's Association.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: VILLA MOLE on October 09, 2017, 09:51:23 AM
The BBC showing a documentary about a Man United player? Shocked at this development.
I think as Charlton is 80 AND a key player in ‘66 then I can excuse the BBC.  It was an decent watch. 



followed by a day in the life of Wes Brown  ;D
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Exeter 77 on October 09, 2017, 12:06:55 PM
I watched that thing on Bobby Charlton to see if there was any mention of his ban from receiving cup final tickets.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on October 09, 2017, 12:15:39 PM
Bobby Charlton was a great player.  I saw him score a really superb goal against us at Villa Park in 1965.  We won 2-1 IIRC and I think they won the league that year.  He picked the ball up mid-way in his own half and beat half of our team in a mazy dribble and whacked it into the net from just outside the box.  The stadium stood and applauded.  Any old 'uns remember it?

According to the late Denis Howell MP former football league referee, he was a moaning fecker, amongst the worst he ever experienced.  He told me that personally as he was a member of our branch of the Referee's Association.


Ron Atkinson thought he was a snidey git and a miserable sod sniping behind his back when he was managing United. After letting on to Jack Charlton that he wasn't a big fan of his brother Jack told BFR that even he wasn't a big fan of his brother. It went something along the lines of  "my brother was a great footballer but not such a great bloke". I didn't like the way the failed former Preston manager waded into SGT when he was England boss. Football diplomat and dignatory? Not in my opinion, I don't like the sure faced old git. Always looks like he's sucking a lemon.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cheltenhamlion on October 09, 2017, 05:46:28 PM
Cheltenham won again at the weekend. Quite a turnaround in the last month.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 09, 2017, 05:53:57 PM
Agreed. Mind you I hate Boxing Day and New Year's games, too.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on October 09, 2017, 06:02:29 PM
All that was missing in the game last night was a Archie Gemmill
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cheltenhamlion on October 09, 2017, 06:16:05 PM
Agreed. Mind you I hate Boxing Day and New Year's games, too.

Wrong thread?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: CT on October 09, 2017, 07:59:47 PM
Watching the Wales game on the Welsh language channel!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 09, 2017, 08:15:02 PM
Agreed. Mind you I hate Boxing Day and New Year's games, too.

Wrong thread?

Yes. I was attempting to reply to your "Christmas Eve games are shite", or words to that effect, in another thread.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PaulTheVillan on October 09, 2017, 08:24:09 PM
Come on Wales. Really don't want MON and Keane at the world cup.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: KRS on October 09, 2017, 08:24:16 PM
Watching the Wales game on the Welsh language channel!
Good tip. Sky channel 134 for anyone else without Sky Sports wanting to watch.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: VILLA MOLE on October 09, 2017, 08:26:42 PM
Come on Wales. Really don't want MON and Keane at the world cup.



They will both be pundits,😨
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on October 09, 2017, 08:26:45 PM
ROI are absolutely shite
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: VILLA MOLE on October 09, 2017, 08:28:47 PM
ROI are absolutely shite


They are there to nick it
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on October 09, 2017, 08:33:08 PM
ROI are absolutely shite


They are there to nick it
Maybe.But they look like an Evostick Northern Premier outfit
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on October 09, 2017, 08:34:21 PM
ROI are absolutely shite

Martin O'Neill, innit.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Chris Jameson on October 09, 2017, 08:35:43 PM
Keeran Clarke always looks decent whenever I see him play.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Richard E on October 09, 2017, 08:38:36 PM
Keeran Clarke always looks decent whenever I see him play.

Him, Guzman and Kovak are my three favourite players of recent years.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: adrenachrome on October 09, 2017, 08:42:07 PM
Keeran Clarke always looks decent whenever I see him play.

Keir is a decent player.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on October 09, 2017, 08:44:37 PM
I am really delighted with 0-0 at half time as it's suits us to be level.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: SoccerHQ on October 09, 2017, 09:00:03 PM
Got the feeling ROI will nick this.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: SoccerHQ on October 09, 2017, 09:00:33 PM
There you go. 0-1. McLean.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: spangley1812 on October 09, 2017, 09:01:52 PM
decent finish............
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on October 09, 2017, 09:03:06 PM
Ashley Williams...too much hair on his head affected him.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Sexual Ealing on October 09, 2017, 09:03:45 PM
YESSSSS!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on October 09, 2017, 09:03:58 PM
I see MON is still a tosser. Nonsense goal celebration.

Should be an interesting 30 minutes.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: devilla on October 09, 2017, 09:04:39 PM
Well that's put the Leprechaun in the Dragon's den.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Chris Jameson on October 09, 2017, 09:04:58 PM
Keeran Clarke always looks decent whenever I see him play.

Him, Guzman and Kovak are my three favourite players of recent years.

All here during the Learner years.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Chris Jameson on October 09, 2017, 09:06:54 PM
From the Little I’ve seen of these qualifiers we really should be smashing teams like England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland, they all look lower to mid table Championship at best.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: spangley1812 on October 09, 2017, 09:08:29 PM
We being ????

From the Little I’ve seen of these qualifiers we really should be smashing teams like England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland, they all look lower to mid table Championship at best.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on October 09, 2017, 09:10:46 PM
Keeran Clarke always looks decent whenever I see him play.

Him, Guzman and Kovak are my three favourite players of recent years.
I also liked Millowner, Bentakkay and Jung.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Pete3206 on October 09, 2017, 09:11:44 PM
We being ????

From the Little I’ve seen of these qualifiers we really should be smashing teams like England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland, they all look lower to mid table Championship at best.

Woosh!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 09, 2017, 09:11:58 PM
A draw and neither of them making the play-offs would be quite amusing.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on October 09, 2017, 09:12:00 PM
We being ????

From the Little I’ve seen of these qualifiers we really should be smashing teams like England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland, they all look lower to mid table Championship at best.
We as in Us!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on October 09, 2017, 09:13:08 PM
A draw and neither of them making the play-offs would be quite amusing.
No way I want a draw for my lot.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on October 09, 2017, 09:15:59 PM
Got the feeling ROI will nick this.
Got the feeling ROI will nick this.
I think you should be suspended from posting and investigated.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Sexual Ealing on October 09, 2017, 09:16:37 PM
The Welsh language makes me feel like I'm on mushrooms.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Sexual Ealing on October 09, 2017, 09:18:08 PM
That's the first time I've ever seen anyone get a yellow for being kicked in the face.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on October 09, 2017, 09:20:04 PM
Quite impressed by Gwer Iwerddon
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: devilla on October 09, 2017, 09:21:33 PM
Whelan coming on. Hmmm.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Sexual Ealing on October 09, 2017, 09:23:47 PM
Fourth official not happy with Whelan's Freedom Pass.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: UK Redsox on October 09, 2017, 09:28:12 PM
The Welsh language makes me feel like I'm on mushrooms.

There was nothing quite like coming in from the pub and watching ‘Tipit’ on S4C
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 09, 2017, 09:28:26 PM
Utter wank from Ramsey, and not for the first time.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: devilla on October 09, 2017, 09:29:20 PM
Utter wank from Ramsey, and not for the first time.

Seems he went for the conversion.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: KRS on October 09, 2017, 09:29:42 PM
Is this football or rugby?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on October 09, 2017, 09:31:02 PM
This Ben Woodburn already looks to me like he's going to be a complete tool as he grows up.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Flamingo Lane on October 09, 2017, 09:33:27 PM
This is a slightly odd game, which will become very odd indeed if Wales get a late equaliser.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on October 09, 2017, 09:34:42 PM
As odd as a thoroughfare known as Flamingo Lane.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: SoccerHQ on October 09, 2017, 09:36:37 PM
Bit of a nostalgic watch this, reminds me of our endless away wins over MON.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on October 09, 2017, 09:37:44 PM
This is a slightly odd game, which will become very odd indeed if Wales get a late equaliser.

It reminds very much of us under MON, sneak a goal and backs to the wall for the remainder of the game. Wales for all their huff and puff, can't find a way through a very strong defence.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on October 09, 2017, 09:38:48 PM
McLean is a proper tool.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on October 09, 2017, 09:39:32 PM
Gutted and delighted in nearly equal measure.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 09, 2017, 09:40:00 PM
McGrath, this is non league level at times.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on October 09, 2017, 09:43:40 PM
Keane can start selecting top notch training facilities and 5* luxury accommodation for his players in Russia.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Brazilian Villain on October 09, 2017, 09:45:47 PM
Christ, that was tough and nervy to watch but great finish by McLean. Probably my favourite player in the current Irish side with his work rate and knack of scoring important goals.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Chris Jameson on October 09, 2017, 09:46:22 PM
That was like watching Aston Villa v Aston Villa.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: adrenachrome on October 09, 2017, 10:00:07 PM
McLean is a proper tool.

A tool is supposed to be useful, so the description is apposite.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Newby on October 09, 2017, 10:03:53 PM
Pube head and the beard. At the World Cup. Who'd have thunk it? Still, at least we have three players to cheer on.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Pat McMahon on October 09, 2017, 10:04:34 PM
That's the first time I've ever seen anyone get a yellow for being kicked in the face.

I think Trevor Cherry playing for England in Argentina around 1976 was sent off for being punched and kicked. To be fair to the ref the opponent who kicked him also went
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: spangley1812 on October 09, 2017, 10:05:23 PM
World cup playoff seedings: Portugal/Switzerland, Italy, Croatia, Denmark
Unseeded: Sweden (TBC), N Ireland, Rep Ireland, Greece/Bosnia
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Exeter 77 on October 09, 2017, 10:06:33 PM
That's the first time I've ever seen anyone get a yellow for being kicked in the face.

I think Trevor Cherry playing for England in Argentina around 1976 was sent off for being punched and kicked. To be fair to the ref the opponent who kicked him also went
I think Cherry lost some teeth as well.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: KRS on October 09, 2017, 10:09:30 PM
Pube head and the beard. At the World Cup. Who'd have thunk it? Still, at least we have three players to cheer on.
They aren't at the World Cup yet...they have to negotiate their way through the playoffs in November.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Pat McMahon on October 09, 2017, 10:14:21 PM
That's the first time I've ever seen anyone get a yellow for being kicked in the face.

I think Trevor Cherry playing for England in Argentina around 1976 was sent off for being punched and kicked. To be fair to the ref the opponent who kicked him also went
I think Cherry lost some teeth as well.

That rings a bell.. I think it was England's first visit since the 1966 World Cup and Alf Ramsey's animals slur so the Argentinians were somewhat hostile.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: saunders_heroes on October 09, 2017, 10:15:11 PM
Christ, that was tough and nervy to watch but great finish by McLean. Probably my favourite player in the current Irish side with his work rate and knack of scoring important goals.

McLean’s a very good player. Great result for Ireland. Let’s hope the draw is kind to us.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 09, 2017, 10:17:16 PM
Very shocked that the one man team lost without their one man.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: spangley1812 on October 09, 2017, 10:20:23 PM
Very shocked that the one man team lost without their one man.

Good Point well made sir..............
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: brontebilly on October 09, 2017, 10:24:53 PM
Aaron Ramsey exposed as a complete fraud tonight. Had promise a few years back, just needs a man bun to morph into Henri Lansbury now.

Fair play to MON, could never applaud the disregard his team's have for keeping the ball but dug out a huge result tonight against the odds. Williams was diabolical for the goal, another one ghastly overrated.

The manner Wales made a hero out of Shane Duffy suggests Chris Coleman might find it tougher than he thinks to get his next job.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Sexual Ealing on October 09, 2017, 10:42:37 PM
The ball staying in play after Williams lost it suggest that a miracle took place. The ball always goes over the bye line in those situations.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: johnc on October 09, 2017, 10:57:02 PM
An O Neill master class. There is a fair old spirit in that Irish squad. Wales missed Allen when he went off. Let the draw be kind. Standard of game was Championship at best.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: KRS on October 09, 2017, 11:17:37 PM
It was much worse than anything I've seen in the Championship. It was an abomination of a "football" match.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Des Little on October 09, 2017, 11:20:32 PM
Two hours of my life I won't get back. What a load of utter shit.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: SoccerHQ on October 09, 2017, 11:43:08 PM
Christ, that was tough and nervy to watch but great finish by McLean. Probably my favourite player in the current Irish side with his work rate and knack of scoring important goals.

McLean’s a very good player. Great result for Ireland. Let’s hope the draw is kind to us.

He gives his all on the pitch but technically he's lacking and can be very reckless in the tackle so I think very good player is tad over the top.

Still he fits well into the workmanlike ROI team and has scored two important winners in this group.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: KevinGage on October 10, 2017, 01:01:31 AM
Look, the Irish pundits even said tonight that McClean wasn't going to be the one to play intricate one-twos on the edge of the box and work an opening, but he is what he is.  Seems a bit odd to bag him for technical deficiency tonight.

Wales and plenty of other sides could benefit from a combative winger, it seems.

I'm sure monkey boy Bale would and wee Barry Bannan would be OK with this level of failure. Ireland are nailed on for an absolute dog of a draw in the play-offs, though. Portugal or Italy away second leg would be my guess.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: TheMalandro on October 10, 2017, 06:33:02 AM
Considering the circumstance, I thought it was a decent game. Wales played some good football up until Allen's injury.

I thought the referee deserved a mention, very sensible decisions.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Nev on October 10, 2017, 07:49:02 AM
Well I "enjoyed" it, but it was very nervy at times. After the No9 Derby, it's the second successive game where the away side were up against it and ended up prevailing, it's not particularly pretty but football isn't a beauty contest and in both instances, the stoicism, effort and application was admirable.

Ramsey joins the long list of "top" players who vanish during big games, goodness knows England have had their fair share over the years.

If they can get through the play offs, Ireland at the World Cup gives me another team to support, and an alternative to the inevitable horror of England at a major tournament.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: eamonn on October 10, 2017, 09:00:26 AM
Aren't the seedings based on the next FIFA rankings (done monthly and due in a few days)? I wonder if beating Wales away might push Ireland up into the top half. Probably not, in which case, bring on Denmark.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 10, 2017, 09:04:33 AM
The Republic had no chance of being seeded in the playoffs according to the link below. Northern Ireland had a one in five shot before the last couple of games, presumably now that is also zero chance given their successive defeats.

http://www.football-rankings.info/2017/10/2018-world-cup-simulations-6-october.html?m=1
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Comrade Blitz on October 10, 2017, 12:24:12 PM
Playoff seeding process according to FIFA:

The eight teams will be seeded in two pots with the four highest-ranked teams placed in one pot. The ranking will be based on the FIFA/Coca-Cola World Ranking published on 16 October.

At the moment the European playoff sides rank as follows in the Sept FIFA ranking:

2nd place in Group B (Portugal [1386]/Switzerland [1210])
France (if Sweden wins Group A) (1208)
Italy (1035)
Croatia  (977)
Slovakia (967)
Norn Iron (945)
Sweden (if France wins Group A) (918)
Denmark (848)
ROI (769)

Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: brontebilly on October 10, 2017, 01:46:43 PM
Look, the Irish pundits even said tonight that McClean wasn't going to be the one to play intricate one-twos on the edge of the box and work an opening, but he is what he is.  Seems a bit odd to bag him for technical deficiency tonight.

Wales and plenty of other sides could benefit from a combative winger, it seems.

I'm sure monkey boy Bale would and wee Barry Bannan would be OK with this level of failure. Ireland are nailed on for an absolute dog of a draw in the play-offs, though. Portugal or Italy away second leg would be my guess.

I severely doubt if Ronaldo was even 50% fit that he would sit out a major game like last night.

As much as Northern Ireland/Occupied Six are the best draw for going through, can see it leading to carnage pre and post game in Dublin and Belfast given that they are evening kick offs and everything else that goes with it.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 10, 2017, 01:58:55 PM
I don't think there is a history of trouble between the two sets of supporters and I see no reason why there would be now.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Nev on October 10, 2017, 02:18:32 PM
They played each other in 1993 and I don't recall any serious trouble.

It was, however, notable for my old man joining me and a mate in The Dubliner to watch the match and catching me smoking for the first time, he was furious.





I was 23 years of age.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Pat McMahon on October 10, 2017, 02:41:31 PM
Look, the Irish pundits even said tonight that McClean wasn't going to be the one to play intricate one-twos on the edge of the box and work an opening, but he is what he is.  Seems a bit odd to bag him for technical deficiency tonight.

Wales and plenty of other sides could benefit from a combative winger, it seems.

I'm sure monkey boy Bale would and wee Barry Bannan would be OK with this level of failure. Ireland are nailed on for an absolute dog of a draw in the play-offs, though. Portugal or Italy away second leg would be my guess.

I severely doubt if Ronaldo was even 50% fit that he would sit out a major game like last night.

As much as Northern Ireland/Occupied Six are the best draw for going through, can see it leading to carnage pre and post game in Dublin and Belfast given that they are evening kick offs and everything else that goes with it.

Looking at the rankings posted by Comrade Blitz above isn't it impossible for Ireland and N Ireland to play each other?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: eamonn on October 10, 2017, 03:03:03 PM
Yeah, and Denmark are tipped to be in the seeded lot. Slovakia are out, they finished 9th.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Comrade Blitz on October 10, 2017, 03:27:30 PM
Yeah, and Denmark are tipped to be in the seeded lot. Slovakia are out, they finished 9th.

Slovakia will be out if Greece win today
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Bren'd on October 10, 2017, 03:35:52 PM
It was much worse than anything I've seen in the Championship. It was an abomination of a "football" match.

It wasn't great but I knew.....we all knew, that once Ireland scored to take the lead the MON instruction would have been to revert to bus parking mode and pretty much nothing else. In fairness, they did that exceptionally well.  Not pretty but effective none the less. They might try the same tactic in the play off.  Against tougher more savvy opposition I doubt it will be as effective but I really hope to be proved wrong.   
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on October 10, 2017, 03:38:29 PM
I thought the bookies had Sweden to beat Holland tonight at ridiculously high odds. Holland have to throw the kitchen sink at it but that could leave them vunerable at the back. People must have seen the odds and lumped on as the price has come down to 3/1.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: HoratioHornblower on October 10, 2017, 05:55:49 PM
The latest rankings will be coming out on Monday. NI and ROI will be unseeded in the playoffs.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: lovejoy on October 10, 2017, 06:27:44 PM
Yeah, and Denmark are tipped to be in the seeded lot. Slovakia are out, they finished 9th.

Slovakia will be out if Greece win today

It’s ridiculous you can finish second and not even get a play off shot. Some groups are clearly stronger than others.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: brontebilly on October 10, 2017, 06:42:41 PM
They played each other in 1993 and I don't recall any serious trouble.

https://www.google.ie/amp/amp.irishexaminer.com/sport/soccer/billys-boys-still-cast-long-shadow-226925.html

It was a vile night.

Let's not forget that next summer some of the Billy boys murdered six people in a pub in Down while they were watching Ireland beat Italy in the World Cup.

That's the kind of history involved not to mention the FAIs recent recruitment policies and a sizeable cohort of braindead followers on both sides.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Ads on October 10, 2017, 07:15:14 PM
Football was a hell of a lot tastier 24 years ago everywhere. In 1993 we went to the Sty and there was a battle on Garrison Lane. We will go in a few weeks time and nothing will happen.

The games moved on.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 10, 2017, 07:27:28 PM
As has the situation in Northern Ireland. They can't play each other, but if they did it wouldn't be too bad. Certainly no more intense than the atmosphere you might encounter against, say, Poland or Serbia away.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 10, 2017, 08:00:32 PM
They played each other in 1993 and I don't recall any serious trouble.

https://www.google.ie/amp/amp.irishexaminer.com/sport/soccer/billys-boys-still-cast-long-shadow-226925.html

It was a vile night.

Let's not forget that next summer some of the Billy boys murdered six people in a pub in Down while they were watching Ireland beat Italy in the World Cup.

That's the kind of history involved not to mention the FAIs recent recruitment policies and a sizeable cohort of braindead followers on both sides.

Twenty-five years ago. There's been a few developments since then.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Richard E on October 10, 2017, 08:07:51 PM
They should change the format of the World Cup into a straight annual knock out competition like the FA Cup. Put the name of every country into the world in a hat and get Ian Wright and some bloke out of Kasabian to draw the home and away teams respectively.  If it's England away to Kiribati so be it. And Man U would be the live TV game.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Comrade Blitz on October 10, 2017, 08:16:57 PM
They should change the format of the World Cup into a straight annual knock out competition like the FA Cup. Put the name of every country into the world in a hat and get Ian Wright and some bloke out of Kasabian to draw the home and away teams respectively.  If it's England away to Kiribati so be it. And Man U would be the live TV game.


You just know that FIFA would love to have the likes of ManUre and Real Merde in the World Cup...
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Comrade Blitz on October 10, 2017, 09:13:36 PM
At the moment the playoff sides are shaping up like this (according to current FIFA rankings)

Switzerland (1210)
Italy (1035)
Croatia  (977)
Norn Iron (945)
Sweden (918)
Denmark (848)
ROI (769)
Greece (665)

Norn Iron could be seeded!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 10, 2017, 09:27:00 PM
They won't be, as their ranking has taken a hit since the last ones were released due to successive defeats.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Meanwood Villa on October 10, 2017, 09:30:05 PM
Also stuff I read suggests Denmark will have a big boost in rankings, not sure why?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 10, 2017, 09:34:21 PM
Four points from Montenegro and Romania is a decent return. It's possible that some bad results from a few years ago have now dropped off and no longer count for their rankings. Not sure, though.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on October 10, 2017, 09:56:40 PM
The Swiss must be cheesed off not qualifying after winning 9 out of 10.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Richard E on October 10, 2017, 09:58:24 PM
The Swiss must be cheesed off not qualifying after winning 9 out of 10.

The players will berne with anger tonight.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Villa in Denmark on October 10, 2017, 10:00:10 PM
Four points from Montenegro and Romania is a decent return. It's possible that some bad results from a few years ago have now dropped off and no longer count for their rankings. Not sure, though.

They also beat Poland 4-0 in the previous round of qualifiers.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on October 10, 2017, 10:05:51 PM
The Swiss must be cheesed off not qualifying after winning 9 out of 10.

The players will berne with anger tonight.
Yes apparently they have cancelled the Gala dinner party.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 10, 2017, 10:06:06 PM
Yes but I'm assuming that had already been accounted for in the rankings which Comrade Blitz quoted above.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: spangley1812 on October 10, 2017, 10:11:49 PM
Seeds -Switzerland, Denmark, Italy and Croatia

Non Seeds -  Sweden. Northern Ireland, Republic of Ireland and Greece
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 10, 2017, 11:20:22 PM
Hopefully Italy draw Greece so at least one of them gets knocked out.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on October 10, 2017, 11:32:31 PM
Seeds -Switzerland, Denmark, Italy and Croatia

Non Seeds -  Sweden. Northern Ireland, Republic of Ireland and Greece

I think the Republic of Ireland would beat Switzerland or Denmark and possibly Croatia over two legs. Clearly Italy are the ones to avoid.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 10, 2017, 11:43:08 PM
Seeds -Switzerland, Denmark, Italy and Croatia

Non Seeds -  Sweden. Northern Ireland, Republic of Ireland and Greece

I think the Republic of Ireland would beat Switzerland or Denmark and possibly Croatia over two legs. Clearly Italy are the ones to avoid.

So given your betting record they'd lost to Switzerland Denmark and Croatia and smash Italy.  :P
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on October 10, 2017, 11:50:48 PM
Seeds -Switzerland, Denmark, Italy and Croatia

Non Seeds -  Sweden. Northern Ireland, Republic of Ireland and Greece

I think the Republic of Ireland would beat Switzerland or Denmark and possibly Croatia over two legs. Clearly Italy are the ones to avoid.

So given your betting record they'd lost to Switzerland Denmark and Croatia and smash Italy.  :P


I have my ups and downs but my betting record is quite respectable. Bulgaria not being able to beat Luxembourg did for me tonight. I tend to whinge longer about my bad luck than I revel in my good luck. I already have my weekend master plans drawn up. This time next year I will be a millianaire. :D
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on October 10, 2017, 11:56:26 PM
although having just read my own post back, if I am going to become one it would help if I learnt how to spell it!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 11, 2017, 12:03:23 AM
I wouldn't worry, I managed to typo "lose"!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 11, 2017, 02:29:35 AM
Argentina behind after forty seconds but Messi scores a hat-trick as they qualify alongside Brazil, Uruguay and Colombia. Peru playoff against New Zealand.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 11, 2017, 02:56:59 AM
America knocked out! They somehow lost to Trinidad and Tobago. Panama got a late winner against Costa Rica to join their opponents and Mexico in the finals. Honduras beat the Mexicans and earn a playoff against Australia.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 11, 2017, 03:46:40 AM
America knocked out! They somehow lost to Trinidad and Tobago. Panama got a late winner against Costa Rica to join their opponents and Mexico in the finals. Honduras beat the Mexicans and earn a playoff against Australia.

I’ve been laughing at my US mates. They are in shock. Studio panel almost in tears.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: UK Redsox on October 11, 2017, 08:09:17 AM
Taylor Twellman lets rip

http://www.espn.co.uk/football/blog/the-match/60/post/3224208/world-cup-hopes-end-for-woeful-usa-after-shambolic-display-vs-trinidad-and-tobago
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Proposition Joe on October 11, 2017, 09:30:20 AM
Argentina behind after forty seconds but Messi scores a hat-trick as they qualify alongside Brazil, Uruguay and Colombia. Peru playoff against New Zealand.

I watched the game and that's the first time I can recall Messi being Messi when in an Argentina shirt, or at least doing Messi things. Usually he looks like a slightly more upmarket N'Zogbia when he plays for the national team. Those goals were quality. Also so the one-two for Di Maria's chance in the first half.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: UK Redsox on October 11, 2017, 10:15:48 AM
America knocked out! They somehow lost to Trinidad and Tobago. Panama got a late winner against Costa Rica to join their opponents and Mexico in the finals. Honduras beat the Mexicans and earn a playoff against Australia.

I’ve been laughing at my US mates. They are in shock. Studio panel almost in tears.

I hope that Kornheiser and Wilbon are on PTI tonight. It'll be hilarious, likewise Tony's podcast today
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Chris Jameson on October 11, 2017, 11:47:32 AM
Glenn Whelan will be at the World Cup but "USA, USA, USA" won't. Marvellous.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 11, 2017, 12:02:33 PM
Is Whelan doing commentary, then?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: manic-road on October 11, 2017, 12:06:45 PM
Glenn Whelan will be at the World Cup but "USA, USA, USA" won't. Marvellous.

That's if they get through the plays offs.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Richard E on October 11, 2017, 12:08:33 PM
Glenn Whelan will be at the World Cup but "USA, USA, USA" won't. Marvellous.

Which would also mean MON being there, which is somewhat less marvellous.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ColinMac on October 11, 2017, 12:12:59 PM
Football was a hell of a lot tastier 24 years ago everywhere. In 1993 we went to the Sty and there was a battle on Garrison Lane. We will go in a few weeks time and nothing will happen.

The games moved on.

Was there? Cant say i remember that, and football was "a hell of a lot tastier?" i cant say i saw any major problems at all following Villa home and away in the late 80's early 90's.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on October 11, 2017, 12:29:57 PM
Worth noting that two in a row Copa America winners Chile, failed to qualify too.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 11, 2017, 12:33:04 PM
That South American group is tough. I would like to see one big Americas section.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ColinMac on October 11, 2017, 01:16:27 PM
That South American group is tough. I would like to see one big Americas section.

Some strange results, Paraguay after beating Columbia last week manage to blow their chance of qualification by losing to Venezuela.

Peru will fancy their chances over two legs against New Zealand, in the next set of rankings they are likely to move up to 8th, they are a good young team who will improve, could be dark horses next year (if they get through their play off)
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 11, 2017, 02:37:00 PM
America knocked out! They somehow lost to Trinidad and Tobago. Panama got a late winner against Costa Rica to join their opponents and Mexico in the finals. Honduras beat the Mexicans and earn a playoff against Australia.

I’ve been laughing at my US mates. They are in shock. Studio panel almost in tears.

I hope that Kornheiser and Wilbon are on PTI tonight. It'll be hilarious, likewise Tony's podcast today

LOL they were fired up and very confident yesterday. I can’t wait for Tony to call the US team “choking dawgs” and Wilbon to go nuts.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on October 11, 2017, 04:11:28 PM
Football was a hell of a lot tastier 24 years ago everywhere. In 1993 we went to the Sty and there was a battle on Garrison Lane. We will go in a few weeks time and nothing will happen.

The games moved on.

Was there? Cant say i remember that, and football was "a hell of a lot tastier?" i cant say i saw any major problems at all following Villa home and away in the late 80's early 90's.



It got moody/tasty at the sty around 1996.

And that was for a John Frain testimonial with Brian Little and Allan Evans, our manager and assistant at the time playing for us. I think we stuck five or six past their first team. They were waiting for us on the way out. (The noses I mean. Not Little and Evans or the Small Heath first team).
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Chris Jameson on October 11, 2017, 04:33:54 PM
Glenn Whelan will be at the World Cup but "USA, USA, USA" won't. Marvellous.

That's if they get through the plays offs.

That's where my knowledge of football falls down, forgot there are further matches. Still, great that the "USA, USA, USA" won't be there.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on October 11, 2017, 04:59:38 PM
Glenn Whelan will be at the World Cup but "USA, USA, USA" won't. Marvellous.

Which would also mean MON being there, which is somewhat less marvellous.

I will be supporting him and Ireland. The timing of his leaving us wasn't great and may have been deliberately spiteful, but you could say the same about Ron Saunders. It least MON didn't go to Small Heath.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: SoccerHQ on October 11, 2017, 05:47:14 PM
The more and more you watch MON teams as a neutral you realise his style isn't very much different to likes of Pulis and Big Sam.

30% possession, long balls, rely on set plays etc.

He did that all with us of course but we had high calibre players who could execute the counter attack style brilliantly (Laursen, Young, Carew etc) so we didn't look as limited in games as Pulis teams frequently do.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: b23 on October 11, 2017, 07:18:27 PM
It was never a Penalty.

Russian football commentator walks out live on air.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-41570091
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on October 11, 2017, 07:42:06 PM
Well the ref quite rightly gave a free kick against the keeper for handball outside the area and as for defender he only tried to protect his face. Both correct decisions ;D
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Dave on October 11, 2017, 08:04:20 PM
Worth noting that two in a row Copa America winners Chile, failed to qualify too.

Given they've had a summer tournament every year for about six years, I reckon they'll be glad of the rest.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Ads on October 11, 2017, 09:13:22 PM
Football was a hell of a lot tastier 24 years ago everywhere. In 1993 we went to the Sty and there was a battle on Garrison Lane. We will go in a few weeks time and nothing will happen.

The games moved on.

Was there? Cant say i remember that, and football was "a hell of a lot tastier?" i cant say i saw any major problems at all following Villa home and away in the late 80's early 90's.

There was. You ok Colin?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Legion on October 11, 2017, 09:24:57 PM
Such as?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: four fornicholl on October 11, 2017, 09:54:17 PM
Such as?
December 87, I got a real kicking on the bus back to Broad Street, Zulus apparently.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Ads on October 11, 2017, 09:58:43 PM
Different subject but that video of the Welsh anthem outside the ground is cracking.

They have a very good base section and a solo top tenor it would seem (for a Zulu link).
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: adrenachrome on October 11, 2017, 10:03:58 PM
Different subject but that video of the Welsh anthem outside the ground is cracking.

They have a very good base section and a solo top tenor it would seem (for a Zulu link).

Musically, they are very impressive.


At our place, their rendition of "We're Swansea City, we're shit on the road" was top notch.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Ads on October 11, 2017, 10:07:55 PM
They were singing we shit in the road. The third world mingers.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 11, 2017, 10:10:48 PM
Football was a hell of a lot tastier 24 years ago everywhere. In 1993 we went to the Sty and there was a battle on Garrison Lane. We will go in a few weeks time and nothing will happen.

The games moved on.

Was there? Cant say i remember that, and football was "a hell of a lot tastier?" i cant say i saw any major problems at all following Villa home and away in the late 80's early 90's.

There was. You ok Colin?

So what violence did you see on the day?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Ads on October 11, 2017, 10:13:53 PM
It was night and not a lot, I had responsible parents. A lot more than will happen in a few weeks. You got a problem?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 11, 2017, 10:15:37 PM
Well you seem to have one with anyone disagreeing. Just seems strange you insisting how tasty it was despite having not actually seen anything.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: four fornicholl on October 11, 2017, 10:21:14 PM
December 87, was a fucking nightmare from 11 till 7, no glorifaction, it just was.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: wittonwarrior on October 11, 2017, 10:22:30 PM
Football has actually won something back with USA being knocked out.  They are everything that I detest about the modern game,  corporate, franchised and nouvelle soccer supporters. 

Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 11, 2017, 10:24:45 PM
No one's denying it was dodgy at times in the 80s, first violence I really saw up close was Wembley '81 and some Spurs fans getting kicked around like rag dolls inside Wembley.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on October 11, 2017, 10:26:11 PM
I thought it was good to see them at world cup finals as it gave their public a glimpse of an actual "world series".
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Ads on October 11, 2017, 10:26:57 PM
I have no problem with people being wrong PWS, I do have a  problem with snides. This is known. Have the courage to be direct, don't dance around it.

I saw and heard enough. I didn't really get what was going on mind and wouldn't until years later.

Maybe I'm mistaken. Maybe football in the 80s and early 90s wasnt a lot tastier than it is now. Maybe I imagined trouble in the League Cup at the Sty or maybe everything in my post was factually correct. I was there after all and maybe you were too. I saw a lot of trouble in 2002 as well. I bet there's not any in a few weeks.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 11, 2017, 10:33:59 PM
I'm not sure how asking what you saw is anything but direct, pretty hard to be any more direct than asking outright what violence you saw.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: adrenachrome on October 11, 2017, 10:36:06 PM
They were singing we shit in the road. The third world mingers.

They won. They used irony. The phrasing, tone and melodic interpretation was excellent.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Ads on October 11, 2017, 10:40:49 PM
I saw a gentlemen break a bottle over another gentlemen's head. Which coincidentally is the first time I saw somebody bottled. The second and last, was 9 years later. I'd love to say it was in the same spot, but truth be told, my geography as a 7 year old was limited to finding the fridge and my back garden. Needless to say I wasn't allowed to go to the Sty when the Albion played there (mixed family) 2 years later at night. My parents went to Sainsburys apparently... The Stripey Bastards beat the Noses from 3-2 down, Andy Hunt or Bob Taylor with the winner at the Agbonlahor End.

I also heard that roar sound of morons fighting that seems to be universal. I found it pretty scary, but then I was afraid of sleeping with my football duvet cover net side down as it looked too much like a spider's webs. Kids ah?!

What did you see and hear PWS?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 11, 2017, 10:50:20 PM
Not a fat lot, same as at most derby games, or any games back then. Then there'd be the odd times you'd be caught in the wrong place and have to fight like fuck to save your skin and your mates. Same as i'd imagine happened to most teens/20 year olds in the 80s. And no doubt the same applied back in the 70s.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Ads on October 11, 2017, 10:51:47 PM
Cool story bro. Bet nobody has to "fight like fuck" in a few weeks. Wouldn't you agree?
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Pat McMahon on October 11, 2017, 10:53:23 PM
Football has actually won something back with USA being knocked out.  They are everything that I detest about the modern game,  corporate, franchised and nouvelle soccer supporters. 



I can't comment on their fans but their team was a lot more entertaining than England in Brazil 3 years ago. They were limited but had a good go against Germany
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Damo70 on October 11, 2017, 11:48:14 PM
I reckon I have been to getting on for twenty derbies (a pretty even mix of home and away) against Small Heath from 1980 to last season and can't really think of anything that would be classed as a real 'war story'. Just plenty of moody and ominous atmospheres.

And wins.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ColinMac on October 12, 2017, 10:30:45 AM
Football was a hell of a lot tastier 24 years ago everywhere. In 1993 we went to the Sty and there was a battle on Garrison Lane. We will go in a few weeks time and nothing will happen.

The games moved on.

Was there? Cant say i remember that, and football was "a hell of a lot tastier?" i cant say i saw any major problems at all following Villa home and away in the late 80's early 90's.

There was. You ok Colin?

Im fine, went to the game on the number 8 bus, watched us win, got the number 8 bus home. Didnt see any violence, riots, fights.

Honestly, went to VP throughout the 80's and probably saw one instance of violence outside the ground, against Arsenal of all teams.

My one memory of any sort of trouble with opposing fans was a final day game against Chelsea when a few hundred little hard men came out of the Holte End at full time and decided to goad the few Chelsea fans there, will never forget the noise of stampeding feet on the VP pitch when the Chelsea fans decided to walk onto the pitch.. walked through Aston Park that day listening to a chorus of "Villa run from Chelsea"

I dont deny violence occured at many Villa games (as they did with football in general) throughout that period, but its no different from now.. generally if you keep your head down, are sensible about where you go and how you behave then you will be fine.

All this "football was tastier in the 80's" all sounds a bit patheitc and Danny Dyer, it just amuses me.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Chris Jameson on October 12, 2017, 11:07:09 AM
I went to football matches regularly throughout the late 70's and 80's and very rarely saw any violence. No doubt there was but it was also very easy to avoid, maybe I was lucky but judging by the amount of books by supposed former hooligans you'd think each match was a war zone. Funny how they recall exactly how many were involved and how outnumbered they were and all the logistics involved, did they have a 'crew' documenting each ruckus? Saw far more trouble at gigs than football matches.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Comrade Blitz on October 12, 2017, 12:11:36 PM
Football has actually won something back with USA being knocked out.  They are everything that I detest about the modern game,  corporate, franchised and nouvelle soccer supporters


Sam's Army and their equivalents at club level all seem to be tatooed/bearded/hipster/millennial types latching on the the newest fad. They'll all be having their chips in little metal buckets and their food served on slates - washed down with a growler of locally brewed, hipster-flavoured beer.







Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Risso on October 12, 2017, 12:14:18 PM
I'm sure I read somewhere that at junior level in the US, [proper] football is the biggest participation sport.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: saunders_heroes on October 12, 2017, 12:19:19 PM
These international breaks are a pain in the back side. Roll on the weekend!
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Comrade Blitz on October 12, 2017, 12:22:11 PM
Oh - it definitely is - soccer-mad kids and all that - but the problem historically has been that once the kids become teens they gravitate away from it  - both playing and supporting.

The proliferation of leagues for the under 14s isn't reflected in the high schools and there won't be many "clubs" at that level. So if you don't make your high school team you probably won't be playing competitively as a 14-18 yr old. Studies also suggest that at that age they also tend to just start supporting NFL or NBA or mostly from peer pressure.

I'm guessing here but I'd bet that the majority of Sam's Army members and individual club army member's don't come from the ranks of those who once played as a child.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on October 12, 2017, 12:28:26 PM
World Cup U17s in India

England 3  Mexico 2

The scoreline flatters Mexico as England were 3 up and cruising, playing some of the best football I've ever seen from an England side. Through to the quarter finals with with a game to go. Mexico were highly rated but England made them look like U12s. Chelsea, Man City and Liverpool have some brilliant players coming through.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 12, 2017, 01:04:01 PM
They'll have more loan spells than first team games for those clubs.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Ads on October 12, 2017, 01:06:50 PM
Football was a hell of a lot tastier 24 years ago everywhere. In 1993 we went to the Sty and there was a battle on Garrison Lane. We will go in a few weeks time and nothing will happen.

The games moved on.

Was there? Cant say i remember that, and football was "a hell of a lot tastier?" i cant say i saw any major problems at all following Villa home and away in the late 80's early 90's.

There was. You ok Colin?

Im fine, went to the game on the number 8 bus, watched us win, got the number 8 bus home. Didnt see any violence, riots, fights.

Honestly, went to VP throughout the 80's and probably saw one instance of violence outside the ground, against Arsenal of all teams.

My one memory of any sort of trouble with opposing fans was a final day game against Chelsea when a few hundred little hard men came out of the Holte End at full time and decided to goad the few Chelsea fans there, will never forget the noise of stampeding feet on the VP pitch when the Chelsea fans decided to walk onto the pitch.. walked through Aston Park that day listening to a chorus of "Villa run from Chelsea"

I dont deny violence occured at many Villa games (as they did with football in general) throughout that period, but its no different from now.. generally if you keep your head down, are sensible about where you go and how you behave then you will be fine.

All this "football was tastier in the 80's" all sounds a bit patheitc and Danny Dyer, it just amuses me.

Glad you agree that football was more violent in the 70/80/90s than it is today, which was my point.

Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Jon Crofts on October 12, 2017, 01:12:01 PM
I'm sure I read somewhere that at junior level in the US, [proper] football is the biggest participation sport.

I can believe that, every time I travel to the US I see more and more kids playing football.  You only need a ball to play whereas every single American sport needs endless amounts of uniform and kit, just pop into Dicks Sporting Goods or Sports Authority and see how much a baseball bat, catchers mitt, batters helmet, batting gloves & silly trousers will set you back for little Johnny, fucking eye watering amounts, don't even bother looking at American Big Girls Blouse Football equipment costs.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: ColinMac on October 12, 2017, 01:25:51 PM
Football was a hell of a lot tastier 24 years ago everywhere. In 1993 we went to the Sty and there was a battle on Garrison Lane. We will go in a few weeks time and nothing will happen.

The games moved on.

Was there? Cant say i remember that, and football was "a hell of a lot tastier?" i cant say i saw any major problems at all following Villa home and away in the late 80's early 90's.

There was. You ok Colin?

Im fine, went to the game on the number 8 bus, watched us win, got the number 8 bus home. Didnt see any violence, riots, fights.

Honestly, went to VP throughout the 80's and probably saw one instance of violence outside the ground, against Arsenal of all teams.

My one memory of any sort of trouble with opposing fans was a final day game against Chelsea when a few hundred little hard men came out of the Holte End at full time and decided to goad the few Chelsea fans there, will never forget the noise of stampeding feet on the VP pitch when the Chelsea fans decided to walk onto the pitch.. walked through Aston Park that day listening to a chorus of "Villa run from Chelsea"

I dont deny violence occured at many Villa games (as they did with football in general) throughout that period, but its no different from now.. generally if you keep your head down, are sensible about where you go and how you behave then you will be fine.

All this "football was tastier in the 80's" all sounds a bit patheitc and Danny Dyer, it just amuses me.

Glad you agree that football was more violent in the 70/80/90s than it is today, which was my point.



I will refer you to a line in my post:

I dont deny violence occured at many Villa games (as they did with football in general) throughout that period, but its no different from now.. generally if you keep your head down, are sensible about where you go and how you behave then you will be fine.

I think you may have missed the point of my post entirely. Punch ups occured in the 70's/80's/90's, punch ups occur now. In both eras, if you are careful where you go and you dont act like a twat you will avoid any trouble, there will be (and was always) the odd occasion that you will get caught up in something purely by misfotune of being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

In the same way that 25000 people now claim they were at VP on the day 8000 people turned up for that Southampton fixture in 86, people will exaggerate stories of the violence that occured in the past. I was at that game at the Sty, there was an unpleasant atmosphere at the ground, but after the game i was able to walk from the Tilton up to Bordesley Green Rd to get a bus home, without incident, without any bother.

Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 12, 2017, 03:21:45 PM
Strachan gone. Somebody foreign and exciting, please.

If we appoint Moyes, Lambert or McLeish, I'm giving up.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: olaftab on October 12, 2017, 03:35:39 PM
How about BFS? He is foreign and quite excited at times😊
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: The Moose on October 12, 2017, 03:36:33 PM
How about appointing Moyes, Lambert AND McLeish.......😂
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 12, 2017, 03:38:00 PM
How about BFS? He is foreign and quite excited at times😊

WGS was bemoaning our lack of height, so I can't see us suiting his preferred style of play.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: DB on October 12, 2017, 05:16:35 PM
Strachan gone. Somebody foreign and exciting, please.

If we appoint Moyes, Lambert or McLeish, I'm giving up.

Won't matter who you get, it's all down to genetics....
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 12, 2017, 07:26:28 PM
Strachan gone. Somebody foreign and exciting, please.

If we appoint Moyes, Lambert or McLeish, I'm giving up.

I heard Bertie Vogts is free
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 12, 2017, 07:32:04 PM
I'm not surprised.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Jon Crofts on October 12, 2017, 07:32:51 PM
Breaking News, Nicola Sturgeon appointed new Scotland manager, they still won't win anything but it will be someone else fault.
Title: Re: Other Games - 2017/18
Post by: Legion on October 12, 2017, 07:38:02 PM
Ace. Nicked.