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Title: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on April 18, 2017, 09:56:40 AM
Sunday 23 April, 12:00
Villa Park


Given the Redknapp news, I thought that this thread might be needed a day or so earlier than usual
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Five Villa Tattoos on April 18, 2017, 09:57:55 AM
Wonder what tax code Harry is on.😉
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: LukeJames on April 18, 2017, 09:58:22 AM
0-0
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Oscar Arce on April 18, 2017, 10:00:12 AM
I hope Mr Bruce does not roll over and let Small Heath tickle his tummy, it will be the biggest mistake he will have ever made.
The players look like they are on the beach already, so they'd better get fired up this week.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on April 18, 2017, 10:00:33 AM
1-3 away win. New manager bounce, our season being over, the stupid systems and selections we've seen these past two games, our goal threat being out, they're going to turn us over and stay up to cap off a pretty uninspiring season for us.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on April 18, 2017, 10:02:41 AM
I've got a bad feeling about this.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on April 18, 2017, 10:13:48 AM
1-3 away win. New manager bounce, our season being over, the stupid systems and selections we've seen these past two games, our goal threat being out, they're going to turn us over and stay up to cap off a pretty uninspiring season for us.

Behave yourself. You never predict us to lose.

Redknapp is a better manager but brave Brucey will have us playing for the draw and it might just work. If so, 0-0, obvs.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on April 18, 2017, 10:17:41 AM
There is an exception. Its not going to be a Taylor style disaster, but it will be an insipid comfortable win as we're played off our park by that shower. Thinking O'Lear 2004 level of shite.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Jockey Randall on April 18, 2017, 10:19:47 AM
Any chance we'll have all of the defence who kept so many clean sheets back?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on April 18, 2017, 10:23:29 AM
It's not going to be a great game.  Redknap will revert to how Rowett set them up.  Contain and hope for a chance or two.  Hogan has to step up now and the rest have to give him the ammunition.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on April 18, 2017, 10:25:45 AM
He'll play up top on his own, Hourihane and Lansbury will be too deep and shackled. Best we can hope for is a draw, but with them coming out at us firing, I think we'll be 2-0 down at half time, rally a bit in the second but huff and puff to no avail.

Season ended when Lloyd Dyer scored the equalizer. You cannot just turn back on a desire to compete that's been so absent in the past two games.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on April 18, 2017, 10:43:11 AM
The one thing in Bruce's favour is that he is fully aware of the importance of the game. As shit as we have become we're not as bad as them.  Cut out the mistakes and we'll beat them with better football.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: CJ on April 18, 2017, 10:53:41 AM
I was really confident and looking forward to this game to provide some small consolation for what has been a poor and frustrating season. Then we lost Kodjia, they got rid of Zola and got 'appy 'arry in, and my confidence is slightly shot. Like him or loath him, Redknob will get them set up and playing better than they did under Zola but hopefully the full house and atmosphere will fire the players to step up a notch or two and I'm still going for a win - 2-1 to us.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: TonyD on April 18, 2017, 10:54:27 AM
Is it on the box?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: darren woolley on April 18, 2017, 11:04:17 AM
I'm really hope we win this so I will say 2-0 Villa.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: peter w on April 18, 2017, 11:07:44 AM
Usually I'd want to win this but just be happy with at least a draw and to get this game out of the way. This time though I want us to properly smash them although a dull 1-0 will, of course, do.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: aj2k77 on April 18, 2017, 11:13:44 AM
Fuck a draw against these arseholes, especially now Arthur Daley is in charge of them.

Bruce better get these lazy, half hearted shirkers off the beach one last time. I'm already sick of watching the non football under him, cap it off with a defeat against those pikeys and I wouldn't be arsed if he got the sack in the summer.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: john e on April 18, 2017, 11:20:12 AM
taking my 9 year old son to his first derby match
 and my 11 year old daughter to her first football match ever
 she doesnt really like football but wanted to go to a game to see what all the fuss was about, so i thought i'd throw her in at the deep end she will soon know if its for her or not

its not good that Redknapp has taken over,
 whatever we might think of him he has never been a negative manager, and he will have them believing that they can win this,
 just hope our players are up for it, because they will be,
 still think we will nick it in an obviously shit game with zero football played but on this occasion i wont care
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: robbo1874 on April 18, 2017, 11:24:17 AM
The one thing in Bruce's favour is that he is fully aware of the importance of the game. As shit as we have become we're not as bad as them.  Cut out the mistakes and we'll beat them with better football.
better football tends to climb out the window when they walk through the door, unfortunately. Not like it's really ever been living at VP this season
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on April 18, 2017, 11:54:40 AM
He sounds well up for the challenge. The gist of the BBC article is that he took the job because he was bored.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Duncan Shaw on April 18, 2017, 11:59:01 AM
Its a good ploy by them....they need one result to be safe realistically and he'll motivate them to that, probably at our expense.
I doubt he'll be there for long!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Legion on April 18, 2017, 12:03:00 PM
He'll have them up for this. Our bunch offer nothing. 0-2.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on April 18, 2017, 12:08:10 PM
It was too much to hope that Zola would stick it out. If this game was three weeks ago...
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Jimbo on April 18, 2017, 12:25:41 PM
Harry has often had the measure of us, no matter who the manager has been. He'll know all about our chronic lack of preparation, not to mention our propensity to shoot ourselves in the foot. That's why our attitude has to be spot on for this game.

Any one of our players going into this expecting an easy ride will be sorely mistaken. With our main goal threat gone, it could be a chance for RHM to come of age, but we'll have to be brave, and I'm not sure we will be. Knowing this club as I do, I'll be stunned if we can find it in ourselves to get a win. I'll be reasonably happy with a draw. But this has got 'balls up' written all over it. 0:2.

Prove me wrong, Villa.   
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Three Spires Villa on April 18, 2017, 12:26:09 PM
The one thing in Bruce's favour is that he is fully aware of the importance of the game. As shit as we have become we're not as bad as them.  Cut out the mistakes and we'll beat them with better football.

This, I hope.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: MalcolmP on April 18, 2017, 12:43:01 PM
Is it on the box?
NO
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: passport1 on April 18, 2017, 12:46:56 PM
A nothing game. Playing for pride I guess that's the best you can say.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on April 18, 2017, 12:47:18 PM
Is it on the box?
NO
Not anywhere. :(
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Boz on April 18, 2017, 12:53:15 PM
A nothing game. Playing for pride I guess that's the best you can say.

Not sure many of the players have any, and do the newer ones to B6 realise the importance to the fans of this particular match?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: KRS on April 18, 2017, 12:57:25 PM
So 'Arry starts on the training ground with that lot tomorrow...if he can get them to put in a better performance in 4 days than Bruce can manage with our lot in 6 months, then it will answer a lot of questions about our management and coaching team. A third defeat on the bounce, particularly to that lot, would be unacceptable.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Jimbo on April 18, 2017, 01:07:37 PM
A nothing game. Playing for pride I guess that's the best you can say.

I'm not sure i agree with this. Unless the game is free to attend, and both goals have been boarded up, I don't think there's such a thing as a 'nothing game'.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: somec on April 18, 2017, 01:10:12 PM
Recent events have made this game harder to call.

I wouldn't be surprised if it ended as a draw with at least one sending off (C. Gardner most likely)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Des Little on April 18, 2017, 01:15:48 PM
Home win.  No other outcome considered.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: levico on April 18, 2017, 01:22:26 PM
Bruce of all people should know the significance of this match to Villa supporters and it'll be a test of his ability to get the players geared up.

I fear that he'll fail, possibly spectacularly and unforgivably.

3-1 to them and we'll never hear the end of it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: wittonwarrior on April 18, 2017, 01:32:07 PM
2 sendings off and a defeat or draw at best.   We are too lightweight for what is about to descend on us
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: TaxDodger on April 18, 2017, 01:45:03 PM
Why are we talking about being happy with draws at home to fucking Birmingham City? I know we're poor at the moment, but all of our players are still better than all of their players.

Redknapp can have them as motivated as he likes, but if our players play to anything like their potential we should win the game, even without Kodja. Bruce needs to make bloody sure we're up for it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on April 18, 2017, 02:07:27 PM
Is this Birmingham City who are going to tear us a new one the same Birmingham City who lost at home to mighty Burton Albion and are currently managed by a retired bloke who's last job was the Jordanian national team? Just checking.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: CT Villan on April 18, 2017, 02:08:45 PM
I can't see us scoring without JK, so at best 0-0 and with the recent displays of comedy defending a loss is a very real possibility.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: KRS on April 18, 2017, 02:33:33 PM
It's been a long time coming...but it could be time for Jack to step up and make his mark on this season.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Walmley_Villa on April 18, 2017, 02:36:41 PM
Time for Bruce to step up and put a team out that can win the individual battles, create chances and put them away. I'm actually interested to see how we cope without JK, Hogan + another might be what we need. Needs to be a team performance and I'm still convinced JK is a team player.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on April 18, 2017, 02:46:37 PM
I'd play 4 1 4 1. A system the players should know.

Hopefully Taylor is back, so the solid back four can return;

Johnstone, Taylor, Baker, Chester and Hutton.

Jedinak screening.

In front Hourihane and Lansbury, who both have to have licence to push 10 or 15 yards further up and really support Hogan, particularly in the case of Hourihane. They've got to be hitting the box, safe in the knowledge that Jedinak is occupying space in behind.

Adomah to come back and then if Green is not fit, RHM, so it can become a 433 if needs be.

The pace we move and close the ball has to increase.

Gardner, Jedinak and Grealish as a three are pace less and pedestrian. There is no dynamism there. Hourihane and Lansbury are genuine box to box men, with the engine and the ability to boot.

The mentality has to be right; not 2003 levels of stupidity, but committed. Anything else and we'll struggle.

To get the best from Hogan, Lansbury and Hourihane have to get a lot closer to him. First goal is absolutely critical.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on April 18, 2017, 03:14:31 PM
I absolutely agree. Trying to hit Hogan from forty yards when he's likely to have two Nose defenders checking the fit of his shirt all game won't get us anywhere.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: john2710 on April 18, 2017, 03:15:46 PM
Hogan cannot play as a lone forward or without support around him, therefore if fit, I'd play Gabby or RHM. Greelish will not get the time & space he needs, at least in the first hour, but could be vital in the last 30 minutes.

Like the game at the sty I think Bruce will be very cautious to start with, Redknapp likewise in the hope that we drop a bollock and don't score many goals even with Kodja in the team. I'm happy for us to cheat, roll around & put pressure on the ref if that's what it takes. I'd prefer we went all out and get right at them from the word go but I'm not sure Bruce will do this.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on April 18, 2017, 03:24:46 PM
I welcome cheating. I'd rather we score a blatant handball goal than a Dalian Atkinson wonder goal. The hilarity as they bleat all the way back to Sherlock Street warm the cockles of your heart.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on April 18, 2017, 03:27:49 PM
I welcome cheating. I'd rather we score a blatant handball goal than a Dalian Atkinson wonder goal. The hilarity as they bleat all the way back to Sherlock Street warm the cockles of your heart.

I remember Roger Johnson's face when Gabby won that penalty against them in front of the Holte End. It looked as if his mum had smacked his bottom.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on April 18, 2017, 03:28:24 PM
I welcome cheating. I'd rather we score a blatant handball goal than a Dalian Atkinson wonder goal. The hilarity as they bleat all the way back to Sherlock Street warm the cockles of your heart.

I want to see....

1-0 Hutton 90+6 (replays show that he was offside and handled the ball twice)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on April 18, 2017, 03:32:41 PM
I'd play 4 1 4 1. A system the players should know.

Hopefully Taylor is back, so the solid back four can return;

Johnstone, Taylor, Baker, Chester and Hutton.

Jedinak screening.

In front Hourihane and Lansbury, who both have to have licence to push 10 or 15 yards further up and really support Hogan, particularly in the case of Hourihane. They've got to be hitting the box, safe in the knowledge that Jedinak is occupying space in behind.

Adomah to come back and then if Green is not fit, RHM, so it can become a 433 if needs be.

The pace we move and close the ball has to increase.

Gardner, Jedinak and Grealish as a three are pace less and pedestrian. There is no dynamism there. Hourihane and Lansbury are genuine box to box men, with the engine and the ability to boot.

The mentality has to be right; not 2003 levels of stupidity, but committed. Anything else and we'll struggle.

To get the best from Hogan, Lansbury and Hourihane have to get a lot closer to him. First goal is absolutely critical.

With the greatest of respect Ads, how can a supporter like yourself see this and offer such a tactically aware and simplistic game plan that screams common sense

Yet a £2mil a year professional Manager does not seem to have a clue !

To see him and SC / CC stand on the touch line discussing stuff and then make a change like Hutton yesterday when we are chasing a game not only beggars belief but actually worries me
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on April 18, 2017, 03:33:35 PM
I welcome cheating. I'd rather we score a blatant handball goal than a Dalian Atkinson wonder goal. The hilarity as they bleat all the way back to Sherlock Street warm the cockles of your heart.

I remember Roger Johnson's face when Gabby won that penalty against them in front of the Holte End. It looked as if his mum had smacked his bottom.

More like the midwife had slapped his face - with a brick :)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: QuintonVilla on April 18, 2017, 03:37:42 PM
4-0. Best performance of the season. Hogan makes himself a hero. The players roared and driven on by the atmosphere. "Redknapp what's the score?". "You're supposed to be in jail". A massive nail in their relegation coffin as Blackburn have won the day before. They all leave the ground after an hour like when we beat them 5-1 and get back on their official coaches.

Or it will be the worst 0-0 you've ever seen.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on April 18, 2017, 03:47:29 PM
4-0. Best performance of the season. Hogan makes himself a hero. The players roared and driven on by the atmosphere. "Redknapp what's the score?". "You're supposed to be in jail". A massive nail in their relegation coffin as Blackburn have won the day before. They all leave the ground after an hour like when we beat them 5-1 and get back on their official coaches.

Or it will be the worst 0-0 you've ever seen.

If I was a betting man......................................  in fact I would put money on the latter but with 0-1
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: The Edge on April 18, 2017, 03:51:27 PM
As I've said elsewhere Steve Bruce is really beginning to worry me. Lack of tactics, pace, goals and playing style are all ringing alarm bells for me. That said I can't bring myself to predict anything else but The Mighty Villa 1 The Great Unwashed 0.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on April 18, 2017, 03:53:11 PM
I welcome cheating. I'd rather we score a blatant handball goal than a Dalian Atkinson wonder goal. The hilarity as they bleat all the way back to Sherlock Street warm the cockles of your heart.

I want to see....

1-0 Hutton 90+6 (replays show that he was offside and handled the ball twice)

Change handled the ball twice to 'juggled with the match ball, a baltic pie & a small kitten on the edge of the penalty area after punching Harry Redknapp in the face' and I'll take a 1-0 home win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 18, 2017, 04:06:54 PM
1-1
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: manic-road on April 18, 2017, 04:21:54 PM
I was really hoping that Zola would still be in charge, with the new manager bounce I can see Blose losing by only two goals now. 3-1 home win :)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Deano's Mullet on April 18, 2017, 04:46:15 PM
Not feeling good about this and you just know Craig Gardner will be involved somewhere. 1-1
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on April 18, 2017, 04:50:03 PM
Not feeling good about this and you just know Craig Gardner will be involved somewhere. 1-1
Will he be in disguise ?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: john2710 on April 18, 2017, 05:35:15 PM
As I've said elsewhere Steve Bruce is really beginning to worry me. Lack of tactics, pace, goals and playing style are all ringing alarm bells for me. That said I can't bring myself to predict anything else but The Mighty Villa 1 The Great Unwashed 0.

Have any of Bruce's sides ever played with anything other than a careful approach. I think we're going to get what Bruce has proven works. Hopefully with a sprinkle of quality and pace added over the summer we'll see something better next season.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on April 18, 2017, 05:36:08 PM
1-0 Battle of Brum gritfest with 2 reds 6 yellows and celebratory pitch invasion
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: kieron on April 18, 2017, 05:43:40 PM
I for one am glad it's not on telly.

We all know what usually happens when we are.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: The Edge on April 18, 2017, 06:08:20 PM
As I've said elsewhere Steve Bruce is really beginning to worry me. Lack of tactics, pace, goals and playing style are all ringing alarm bells for me. That said I can't bring myself to predict anything else but The Mighty Villa 1 The Great Unwashed 0.

Have any of Bruce's sides ever played with anything other than a careful approach. I think we're going to get what Bruce has proven works. Hopefully with a sprinkle of quality and pace added over the summer we'll see something better next season.
I just hope your right
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: QuintonVilla on April 18, 2017, 06:19:16 PM
Are there any slots available at 12pm on Sky if they fancied a late change of heart? I know Rangers v Celtic is on one channel at 12.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: QuintonVilla on April 18, 2017, 08:00:04 PM
Their fairytale thread has started on their forum with who's got tickets in our end, they're late this year. 7 of them in the Lower Holte apparantly haha.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: CT on April 18, 2017, 08:04:10 PM
Their fairytale thread has started on their forum with who's got tickets in our end, they're late this year. 7 of them in the Lower Holte apparantly haha.

7000 surely?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: QuintonVilla on April 18, 2017, 08:18:13 PM
Their fairytale thread has started on their forum with who's got tickets in our end, they're late this year. 7 of them in the Lower Holte apparantly haha.

7000 surely?
Oh this is just one bloke and his 'six mates'. Have you ever known any of them have six mates?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on April 18, 2017, 08:19:52 PM
The
Their fairytale thread has started on their forum with who's got tickets in our end, they're late this year. 7 of them in the Lower Holte apparantly haha.

7000 surely?
Oh this is just one bloke and his 'six mates'. Have you ever known any of them have six mates?

Six fingers, yes. Six mates, no.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: saunders_heroes on April 18, 2017, 08:52:24 PM
3-0 Villa, and a nail in their relegation coffin. Remember that middle aged Solihull pratt with his Villa coffin 12 months ago? Well what's goes around comes around, so they say...
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on April 18, 2017, 08:57:05 PM
We can not lose this game.

Would massively turn against Bruce if it happens.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Dave on April 18, 2017, 09:00:07 PM
Not feeling good about this and you just know Craig Gardner will be involved somewhere

Last minute own-goal to make it 4-0. Before being sent off for punching Redknapp.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Meanwood Villa on April 18, 2017, 09:00:51 PM
Undoubtedly I'm more worried about this than a fortnight ago with our loss of form, Kod not playing and their potential new manager bounce. BUT they're still utter shite and have been for months. Redknapp's taken teams down before. We're not that far removed from 7 wins out of 8. And those ****** haven't won at VP for over a decade. Let's FUCK THE FUCKERS!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: castlefields_villan on April 18, 2017, 10:17:35 PM
I still think we'll have too much for them even with the new manager bounce.  I expect us to win 2-1.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: TonyD on April 18, 2017, 10:44:23 PM
Absolutely no idea on this one.   
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Axl Rose on April 18, 2017, 11:26:26 PM
Match these bastards for effort, and we'll win 3-1.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: adrenachrome on April 18, 2017, 11:28:27 PM
Anything might happen now; there are too many variables given recent events. Serious gamblers will steer wide of the game.

Despite this, SB will come under severe pressure if we do not get a result.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: adrenachrome on April 19, 2017, 12:24:46 AM
Arry reckons 4 points will keep them up.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: KRS on April 19, 2017, 01:12:22 AM
Arry reckons 4 points will keep them up.
He's probably right as that would mean Blackburn need 7pts and Forest need 6pts from the last 3 games, and it's unlikely that both will achieve that. With 3 games to go they could even get out of it with as little as just a couple of draws...

20. Blues: 47
21. Forest: 45
22. Rovers: 44
23. Wigan: 40
24: Rotherham: 18

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: adrenachrome on April 19, 2017, 01:17:56 AM
There are no flys on Arry, and if there were they would be paying rent as we used to say in South Fermanagh.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: pbavfckuwait on April 19, 2017, 05:19:25 AM
Beat them anyhow anyway, do it Bruce or do one.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Mortimer's Bear on April 19, 2017, 07:40:57 AM
I think everyone would take a draw now to be honest.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Jimbo on April 19, 2017, 08:25:23 AM
Match these bastards for effort, and we'll win 3-1.

We'll also need to match them in preparation, organisation, concentration, vigilance, desire and a sheer bloody-minded will to win. It would appear those qualities have deserted us in recent games. Our stars' egos cannot now be massaged by the prospect of the playoffs, yet the knuckledraggers are fighting for their lives. They need something from the game. Our generosity is legendary. I've seen this recipe before and it usually tastes like shite.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on April 19, 2017, 08:28:47 AM
I think everyone would take a draw now to be honest.

I wouldn't! We've won 5 out of our last 6 at home, with clean sheets in all those wins, and are playing against an inferior squad who are 9 without a win. We should be expecting nothing less than a win!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on April 19, 2017, 08:31:54 AM
I'd like to think we could roll scum over with ease, but at the moment I can only see us drawing at best, especially without JK. I certainly don't want to see the likes of Richards (who I feel has a hint of bluenose about him), bacuna or Gabby in the match day squad because I think this game is too big for their sh-t. Gardener could struggle also up against his brother. I don't go along with the thought that rednapp will motivate them any more than zola would have done for a derby match. What he may welll bring is dirty, niggling/cheating tactics that Bruce and the Villa team will need to be prepared for. Come on Villa, do us proud!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Chris Smith on April 19, 2017, 08:57:27 AM
Match these bastards for effort, and we'll win 3-1.

We'll also need to match them in preparation, organisation, concentration, vigilance, desire and a sheer bloody-minded will to win. It would appear those qualities have deserted us in recent games. Our stars' egos cannot now be massaged by the prospect of the playoffs, yet the knuckledraggers are fighting for their lives. They need something from the game. Our generosity is legendary. I've seen this recipe before and it usually tastes like shite.

All of those virtues you list deserted them to a greater degree and over a longer period, two wins in 24 games. They have a new manager but the same group of players and if they are currently 'fighting for their lives' I would love to see what they do when they're not.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: john2710 on April 19, 2017, 09:18:49 AM
I thought we were playing a side who have only won 2 out of the last 23 games not one that were on the verge of promotion. We need to go straight at them from the kick off, they are as brittle as fuck & as bad as we were 12 months ago. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Jimbo on April 19, 2017, 09:20:42 AM
This is Villa, remember. Never underestimate our genius for gifting the needy.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Three Spires Villa on April 19, 2017, 09:22:21 AM
I always get nervous when we play that lot, hate the games and hate the way they make me feel about them. Watching the Fulham game in a pub with my 80 year old father and blues fans cheering and giving it the big one. My Dad said to one of them, do you support Fulham, he grunted no, but i do today, my Dad asked him why he wasn't in Bordsley Green, plenty of empty seats for him to sit in. Well done Dad!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: amfy on April 19, 2017, 10:04:01 AM
I had that debate with one in a pub in Kings Norton watching Villa. He said he wasn't at the game because he was prioritising his kids. When I pointed out that he wasn't with his kids he was in the pub, he went into full offended father mode like I was saying his children weren't important to him and insulting his kids!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Three Spires Villa on April 19, 2017, 10:14:42 AM
I had that debate with one in a pub in Kings Norton watching Villa. He said he wasn't at the game because he was prioritising his kids. When I pointed out that he wasn't with his kids he was in the pub, he went into full offended father mode like I was saying his children weren't important to him and insulting his kids!

Ha,ha, good man
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: TaxDodger on April 19, 2017, 10:42:54 AM
I think everyone would take a draw now to be honest.

No chance. We're at home to a team who just got beat at home to Burton Albion and who are 20th in the Championship. They're really, really, really bad at football. I realise we're not exactly Barcelona, but drawing at home to this shower would be a piss poor result.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on April 19, 2017, 11:27:04 AM
I feel physically sick.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: QuintonVilla on April 19, 2017, 11:37:54 AM
Why are people saying they would take a draw? It's Small Heath at home for feck sake. The way some are going on on here and Twitter you'd think we were playing Real Madrid or that Small Heath had just appointed Simeone not the crook Hound Dog Harry. Grow some balls, let's smash them on the pitch and let them hear what a full house sounds like.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Des Little on April 19, 2017, 11:45:16 AM
There's no bigger worrier than me when it comes to watching the Villa, however even I'm not on edge for this one.  Not because I don't think we'll win (I do as it happens), however let's be honest, what's the worst that can happen?  They win, and stay up.  Big deal. It's not as if it's the other way round, or the winner gets promoted/wins a trophy.  Yes they'll dance about and be delirious, but when the dust settles, they'll realise that they'll most probably be in the same situation next season, whereas we have bigger fish to fry than worry about them.  Have faith, people.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Nelly on April 19, 2017, 11:52:49 AM
Why are people saying they would take a draw? It's Small Heath at home for feck sake. The way some are going on on here and Twitter you'd think we were playing Real Madrid or that Small Heath had just appointed Simeone not the crook Hound Dog Harry. Grow some balls, let's smash them on the pitch and let them hear what a full house sounds like.


I don't think anyone is pretending Blues are good, more that we aren't much kop right now. We do have a good recent home record but I'm not sure how convincing some of those wins were, as contradictory as that might sound. I really hope we turn up and demolish them though.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: auntiesledd on April 19, 2017, 11:56:58 AM
I must confess that my hope of us handing out a significant relegation death-blow to those barstewards have dwindled recently, but surely our hapless bunch will have enough to get a point from this hate-fest? Won't they??  :o

So it's an optimistic 1-1 for me.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Bad English on April 19, 2017, 12:57:06 PM
I had that debate with one in a pub in Kings Norton watching Villa. He said he wasn't at the game because he was prioritising his kids. When I pointed out that he wasn't with his kids he was in the pub, he went into full offended father mode like I was saying his children weren't important to him and insulting his kids!

Ha,ha, good man
Anne-Marie is very ladylike, I'll have you know!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Lobsterboy on April 19, 2017, 12:58:23 PM
My hope is that this massively underperforming bunch of players step up after what has been an unbelievably disappointing season and give this lot a sound thrashing

My expectation is that we'll fail to turn up, give away a stupid goal via a back pass or something similar and create zilch losing 0-1

Prove me wrong! Please! 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Three Spires Villa on April 19, 2017, 01:13:55 PM
I had that debate with one in a pub in Kings Norton watching Villa. He said he wasn't at the game because he was prioritising his kids. When I pointed out that he wasn't with his kids he was in the pub, he went into full offended father mode like I was saying his children weren't important to him and insulting his kids!

Ha,ha, good man
Anne-Marie is very ladylike, I'll have you know!
Opps, sorry
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: He wears a magic hat on April 19, 2017, 01:14:32 PM
I see nothing other than a tedious drab affair with them coming for a point and us not having the where with all to break them down.

0-0

If there is to be a winner its going to come from a defensive error or a set piece. Unfortunately I can't call which way that would be:( which I find absolutely unbelievable given the shit we are playing against
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: amfy on April 19, 2017, 02:38:31 PM
I had that debate with one in a pub in Kings Norton watching Villa. He said he wasn't at the game because he was prioritising his kids. When I pointed out that he wasn't with his kids he was in the pub, he went into full offended father mode like I was saying his children weren't important to him and insulting his kids!

Ha,ha, good man
Anne-Marie is very ladylike, I'll have you know!
Opps, sorry

Well sometimes I am.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: VancouverLion on April 19, 2017, 04:27:02 PM
Why are people saying they would take a draw? It's Small Heath at home for feck sake. The way some are going on on here and Twitter you'd think we were playing Real Madrid or that Small Heath had just appointed Simeone not the crook Hound Dog Harry. Grow some balls, let's smash them on the pitch and let them hear what a full house sounds like.
F***in right!!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on April 19, 2017, 04:29:19 PM
Apparently kn-bhead Troy Deeney has said that one day he'd like to play for scum against Villa. How soon is he planning this bearing in mind he's apparently buying a house locally? He'd be better off keeping his trap shut and focussing on his commitment to Watford.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: CT Villan on April 19, 2017, 04:43:03 PM
Apparently kn-bhead Troy Deeney has said that one day he'd like to play for scum against Villa.

Of course he does. He's not good enough to play for us, so he has to settle for the second best honour in football.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on April 19, 2017, 04:51:49 PM
Hasn't taken Rednob long to start mouthing off about us again.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: aj2k77 on April 19, 2017, 04:53:05 PM
Deeney is a mutant, flat face with eyes on the side of his head. His parents must have been a Horse and a Frying Pan. He can fuck off and take his brain cell with him. Bruce better get those bastards up for a right old fight Sunday, I'm foaming at the mouth already.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: auntiesledd on April 19, 2017, 05:02:35 PM
Apparently kn-bhead Troy Deeney has said that one day he'd like to play for scum against Villa. How soon is he planning this bearing in mind he's apparently buying a house locally? He'd be better off keeping his trap shut and focussing on his commitment to Watford.

I had the 'pleasure' of hearing said Knob 'ead on Talkshite earlier today. He said he was going on Sunday, so I'm sure we can give him the sort of reception his attendance richly deserves.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: TaxDodger on April 19, 2017, 05:21:12 PM
Apparently kn-bhead Troy Deeney has said that one day he'd like to play for scum against Villa. How soon is he planning this bearing in mind he's apparently buying a house locally? He'd be better off keeping his trap shut and focussing on his commitment to Watford.

I had the 'pleasure' of hearing said Knob 'ead on Talkshite earlier today. He said he was going on Sunday, so I'm sure we can give him the sort of reception his attendance richly deserves.

I think completely ignoring a player as insignificant as Troy Deeney would work better. Being on the receiving end of abuse from Villa fans seems to make the recipient worthy of hero status among Blues fans.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: AV82EC on April 19, 2017, 05:31:46 PM
The good thing about Arry getting appointed is all the talking is coming from them, I'd like the club to carry on doing the minimum of press and focus on what we're going to do to them on the pitch. I'm imagining Steve already has a few comments they've made to use in his team talk.

Let them talk.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: saunders_heroes on April 19, 2017, 05:36:31 PM
Apparently kn-bhead Troy Deeney has said that one day he'd like to play for scum against Villa. How soon is he planning this bearing in mind he's apparently buying a house locally? He'd be better off keeping his trap shut and focussing on his commitment to Watford.

I had the 'pleasure' of hearing said Knob 'ead on Talkshite earlier today. He said he was going on Sunday, so I'm sure we can give him the sort of reception his attendance richly deserves.

I think completely ignoring a player as insignificant as Troy Deeney would work better. Being on the receiving end of abuse from Villa fans seems to make the recipient worthy of hero status among Blues fans.

Indeed. It'd be a back-handed compliment to him to even acknowledge he even exists. Typical from a Nose to admit the only reason he'd ever play for Small Heath would be to line up against the Villa. Now that's a back-handed compliment if ever there was one.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: aj2k77 on April 19, 2017, 05:54:23 PM
Just like the 10,000 extra fans they get when they play us, the only time they'll ever pay to enter the Sty is to watch us.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: willenhall villa on April 19, 2017, 07:01:35 PM
Took my lad to VP today, he's never walked round it on a non match day. Had a walk up Aston Manor and noticed they've removed the lions off the top of the gates for the game.
Strange to think that for 2 hours on Sunday Villa Park will not be as tranquil.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on April 19, 2017, 07:16:05 PM
I've just read that the game is being shown live on Eurosport anyone else heard this?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: four fornicholl on April 19, 2017, 07:23:25 PM
I've just read that the game is being shown live on Eurosport anyone else heard this?
Just checked the listings and its wall to wall snooker, would seem highly unlikely to be honest.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on April 19, 2017, 07:39:19 PM
I've just read that the game is being shown live on Eurosport anyone else heard this?
I've read things like this before, I think they just basically announce when any goals have gone in.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on April 19, 2017, 08:34:29 PM
It's text commentary rather than any live stream.

It depends if there's actually proper TV cameras at VP on Sunday rather than the solitary one we now get for Saturday championship games. If there is a couple it will be on a stream somewhere.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdward on April 19, 2017, 08:49:17 PM
I've just read that the game is being shown live on Eurosport anyone else heard this?

It is on Eurosport - edit: just read it again, i think it is just text updates

http://www.eurosport.co.uk/football/championship/2016-2017/aston-villa-birmingham-city_mtc866593/live.shtml
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 19, 2017, 08:55:21 PM
I'm sure it's text only as Eurosport don't have the rights to Division 2 football. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: ktvillan on April 19, 2017, 08:55:51 PM
Apparently kn-bhead Troy Deeney has said that one day he'd like to play for scum against Villa. How soon is he planning this bearing in mind he's apparently buying a house locally? He'd be better off keeping his trap shut and focussing on his commitment to Watford.

I had the 'pleasure' of hearing said Knob 'ead on Talkshite earlier today. He said he was going on Sunday, so I'm sure we can give him the sort of reception his attendance richly deserves.

I think completely ignoring a player as insignificant as Troy Deeney would work better. Being on the receiving end of abuse from Villa fans seems to make the recipient worthy of hero status among Blues fans.

Indeed. It'd be a back-handed compliment to him to even acknowledge he even exists. Typical from a Nose to admit the only reason he'd ever play for Small Heath would be to line up against the Villa. Now that's a back-handed compliment if ever there was one.

His Mother lives next door to my Brother and he regularly visits in his Lamborghini.   I may well take a shit on it if I ever see it there. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: villabear on April 19, 2017, 09:31:11 PM
It's text commentary rather than any live stream.

It depends if there's actually proper TV cameras at VP on Sunday rather than the solitary one we now get for Saturday championship games. If there is a couple it will be on a stream somewhere.

There must be a certain amount of cameras there Sunday because it's been 'beamed' live back to the Sty unless they've only agreed some cheapo deal.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: The Edge on April 19, 2017, 09:43:43 PM
Apparently kn-bhead Troy Deeney has said that one day he'd like to play for scum against Villa. How soon is he planning this bearing in mind he's apparently buying a house locally? He'd be better off keeping his trap shut and focussing on his commitment to Watford.

I had the 'pleasure' of hearing said Knob 'ead on Talkshite earlier today. He said he was going on Sunday, so I'm sure we can give him the sort of reception his attendance richly deserves.

I think completely ignoring a player as insignificant as Troy Deeney would work better. Being on the receiving end of abuse from Villa fans seems to make the recipient worthy of hero status among Blues fans.

Indeed. It'd be a back-handed compliment to him to even acknowledge he even exists. Typical from a Nose to admit the only reason he'd ever play for Small Heath would be to line up against the Villa. Now that's a back-handed compliment if ever there was one.

His Mother lives next door to my Brother and he regularly visits in his Lamborghini.   I may well take a shit on it if I ever see it there.
I'd put a Villa sticker on it somewhere where he won't find it ✌
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on April 19, 2017, 10:14:57 PM
Sod it.  Let's just play Jack behind Hogan and beat these cnuts.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on April 19, 2017, 10:53:41 PM
It's text commentary rather than any live stream.

It depends if there's actually proper TV cameras at VP on Sunday rather than the solitary one we now get for Saturday championship games. If there is a couple it will be on a stream somewhere.

There must be a certain amount of cameras there Sunday because it's been 'beamed' live back to the Sty unless they've only agreed some cheapo deal.

Not sure really. Milton Keynes Franchise had a beam back of their game at Wimbledon and watching highlights of that there was only one camera used.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: godzvilla on April 19, 2017, 11:27:27 PM
Try this , although I think its basically Bet365 , maybe worth a punt, any ship in a storm etc...........Godzvilla!
http://www.sofascore.com/birmingham-city-aston-villa/jP
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on April 20, 2017, 12:23:34 AM
Bet 365 in U.K don't show championship games. Maybe might work for overseas users.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Bad English on April 20, 2017, 08:08:13 AM
3-1 then back on your coaches and back to Touchwood with you!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: St AustellAVFC on April 20, 2017, 08:35:55 AM
I'm meeting up with a mate who I've not seen for over 10 years on Sunday. Pre match and post match beers so I just hope the Villa don't let us down. I'm sure they won't, I'm going for a 3-0 win. I've read this morning that we get the result back on Kodjia, I've no idea if it's likely to be overturned as I've not seen a replay of the incident. I did shout to Bruce on his way off on Monday to get em sorted for this game, let's hope he does.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: villabear on April 20, 2017, 09:00:55 AM
I'm meeting up with a mate who I've not seen for over 10 years on Sunday. Pre match and post match beers so I just hope the Villa don't let us down. I'm sure they won't, I'm going for a 3-0 win. I've read this morning that we get the result back on Kodjia, I've no idea if it's likely to be overturned as I've not seen a replay of the incident. I did shout to Bruce on his way off on Monday to get em sorted for this game, let's hope he does.

Already decided ST Austell, reduced to one game after appeal so still misses Sunday.

http://www.thefa.com/news/2017/apr/19/jonathan-kodjia-wrongful-dismissal-claim-190417
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: St AustellAVFC on April 20, 2017, 09:33:37 AM
I'm meeting up with a mate who I've not seen for over 10 years on Sunday. Pre match and post match beers so I just hope the Villa don't let us down. I'm sure they won't, I'm going for a 3-0 win. I've read this morning that we get the result back on Kodjia, I've no idea if it's likely to be overturned as I've not seen a replay of the incident. I did shout to Bruce on his way off on Monday to get em sorted for this game, let's hope he does.

Already decided ST Austell, reduced to one game after appeal so still misses Sunday.

http://www.thefa.com/news/2017/apr/19/jonathan-kodjia-wrongful-dismissal-claim-190417

Oh, ok. Thanks for that.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 20, 2017, 09:46:06 AM
9 years ago today

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: aj2k77 on April 20, 2017, 10:45:44 AM
A true massacre, put to bed the disastrous 0-3 result when they first came up, put to bed the myth they peddle about having loyal fans, they all fucked off after 65 mins.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: QuintonVilla on April 20, 2017, 10:55:16 AM
The whole ground serenading and waving them off with 'We'll meet again' as they scarpered at 4-0 was a beautiful moment. Their support was dreadful that day, even at 0-0 they didn't muster a song.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: TonyD on April 20, 2017, 10:57:16 AM
Our on the beach team v arry's pumped up players.  Not going to easy.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: villabear on April 20, 2017, 11:21:46 AM
Just seen a post on Twitter that Evans from the Evil still dragging up the Enkleman incident from about 15 years ago.

Can't let it go. Small time club.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Legion on April 20, 2017, 11:38:36 AM
Gregg Evans is an idiot.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on April 20, 2017, 11:41:02 AM
And I'm pretty sure he did the same article a year ago.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on April 20, 2017, 11:42:40 AM
Just seen it he actually did an article on enckelman in September last year.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Des Little on April 20, 2017, 11:58:45 AM
I actually believe Bruce is going to play Gabby on Sunday.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: mallo on April 20, 2017, 12:27:12 PM
I think it's safe to say it won't be full of quality. 1-1 for me but we should be beating them for fun. We've started to un-gel.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Jane on April 20, 2017, 12:54:23 PM
Anyone know of a bar in Paphos showing the game? 😉 (Asking for a friend.....)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 20, 2017, 12:56:23 PM
Simon Hooper is the ref. A quick Google and he reffed the 2-2 Forest game (sent off their bloke after Angela scored) and the 2-0 win over Bristol City.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on April 20, 2017, 01:00:15 PM
I actually believe Bruce is going to play Gabby on Sunday.

I think he'll be on the bench. I can see him playing Adomah through the middle with Hogan.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on April 20, 2017, 01:01:06 PM
I'd hope Adomah and RHM/Green play and we utilize some width to get closer to Hogan.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on April 20, 2017, 01:08:17 PM
I'd hope Adomah and RHM/Green play and we utilize some width to get closer to Hogan.

Green's already been ruled out I think which is a shame.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: robbo1874 on April 20, 2017, 01:41:23 PM
9 years ago today


brilliant. Commentator said 15 goals in 3 games. (Scored, not conceded).
Not the best Villa side, but Carew, Young, Barry, Mellberg- there's four who would walk into the current side.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on April 20, 2017, 01:47:04 PM
I'd got with RHM then. Pity about Green. I've liked what I've seen so far.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: in exile on April 20, 2017, 01:59:30 PM
We weren't going because we are on holiday, but we are going now so I'm made up!
2-0 Villa win
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Oscar Arce on April 20, 2017, 02:04:23 PM
I also have a feeling that Gabby will be involved somewhere on Sunday.
I'd start him with Hogan as they hate the sight of him, he usually scores against the scum, let him have 60 mins and put them under pressure.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: old man villa fan on April 20, 2017, 02:27:27 PM
I also have a feeling that Gabby will be involved somewhere on Sunday.
I'd start him with Hogan as they hate the sight of him, he usually scores against the scum, let him have 60 mins and put them under pressure.

When was the last time he scored against them and what has he done to warrant a place in the team.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Oscar Arce on April 20, 2017, 02:54:19 PM
He hasn't done anything to warrant a place true but he has scored against them in the past was my point, I don't think playing Hogan on his own works and the ball doesn't stick with him whereas the flabby one does hold it up and that may free Hogan to work off him and do what he does best get in behind, might be worth a go with limited other forward options (RHM/Adomah).
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: postal on April 20, 2017, 03:17:03 PM
At least Grealish and G. Gardner ( I hope) know the importance of the blues game.

Bruce should be able to get one last good game out of them for this season... hopefully

And as its not on telly or not even the radio! So I'll be "watching" it online on "ceefax+"

Tight game, we'll win 2-1 and Dishonest 'Arry will look glum... though he always does. Him and Droopy separated at birth.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: astonvillan on April 20, 2017, 04:02:59 PM
Deeney is a mutant, flat face with eyes on the side of his head. His parents must have been a Horse and a Frying Pan. He can fuck off and take his brain cell with him. Bruce better get those bastards up for a right old fight Sunday, I'm foaming at the mouth already.

Oh my. I've just loudly guffawed at Kingston station reading that. Superb..
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: godzvilla on April 20, 2017, 05:20:51 PM
He hasn't done anything to warrant a place true but he has scored against them in the past was my point, I don't think playing Hogan on his own works and the ball doesn't stick with him whereas the flabby one does hold it up and that may free Hogan to work off him and do what he does best get in behind, might be worth a go with limited other forward options (RHM/Adomah).
I also have a feeling that Gabby will be involved somewhere on Sunday.
I'd start him with Hogan as they hate the sight of him, he usually scores against the scum, let him have 60 mins and put them under pressure.

When was the last time he scored against them and what has he done to warrant a place in the team.

My question was going to be " is he fit to play?  " but , on second thoughts, I guess it should be " is he fit enough to make some sort , any sort,  of contribution?" ....Godzvilla!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: somec on April 20, 2017, 05:25:09 PM
At least Grealish and G. Gardner ( I hope) know the importance of the blues game.

Bruce should be able to get one last good game out of them for this season... hopefully

And as its not on telly or not even the radio! So I'll be "watching" it online on "ceefax+"

Tight game, we'll win 2-1 and Dishonest 'Arry will look glum... though he always does. Him and Droopy separated at birth.

Is it really not on the radio? Why would they not be covering it?!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Tony Erdington on April 20, 2017, 05:28:29 PM
surely this site has been infiltrated or the magic mushrooms are early this year 22 fuckers reckon small teeth are goin to win sunday. Bolox

Villa all day!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on April 20, 2017, 05:59:02 PM
It's 23 now and I think theyll beat us 3-1.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: b23 on April 20, 2017, 06:09:26 PM
At least Grealish and G. Gardner ( I hope) know the importance of the blues game.

Bruce should be able to get one last good game out of them for this season... hopefully

And as its not on telly or not even the radio! So I'll be "watching" it online on "ceefax+"

Tight game, we'll win 2-1 and Dishonest 'Arry will look glum... though he always does. Him and Droopy separated at birth.

Is it really not on the radio? Why would they not be covering it?!

Radio WM are covering it on DAB and FM. Different commentary for each club.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on April 20, 2017, 06:13:00 PM
At least Grealish and G. Gardner ( I hope) know the importance of the blues game.

Bruce should be able to get one last good game out of them for this season... hopefully

And as its not on telly or not even the radio! So I'll be "watching" it online on "ceefax+"

Tight game, we'll win 2-1 and Dishonest 'Arry will look glum... though he always does. Him and Droopy separated at birth.

Is it really not on the radio? Why would they not be covering it?!

Radio WM are covering it on DAB and FM. Different commentary for each club.

On the Blose one they'll spend the whole time slagging Villa off,  whilst on the Villa one they'll spend all match slagging Villa off.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: exigo on April 20, 2017, 06:13:33 PM
At least Grealish and G. Gardner ( I hope) know the importance of the blues game.

Bruce should be able to get one last good game out of them for this season... hopefully

And as its not on telly or not even the radio! So I'll be "watching" it online on "ceefax+"

Tight game, we'll win 2-1 and Dishonest 'Arry will look glum... though he always does. Him and Droopy separated at birth.

Is it really not on the radio? Why would they not be covering it?!

Radio WM are covering it on DAB and FM. Different commentary for each club.

Presumably only one will use any words of more than one syllable?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: London Villan on April 20, 2017, 06:19:53 PM
Saw this in the Standard while in London today...

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/harry-redknapp-my-birmingham-start-vs-aston-villa-brings-up-bad-memories-a3519206.html (http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/harry-redknapp-my-birmingham-start-vs-aston-villa-brings-up-bad-memories-a3519206.html)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: shirley_villan on April 20, 2017, 06:33:57 PM
The bellends are remarkably confident considering how they felt at 5pm on Monday. Fucking hell, it's only Redknapp and their squad is still horrendous. Hopefully it goes in our favour.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Monty on April 20, 2017, 06:39:20 PM
I've been increasingly ambivalent about this season, but by fuck we cannot lose this game.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on April 20, 2017, 06:40:50 PM
They spent most of the season above us until they let go of Rowett.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: KRS on April 20, 2017, 07:51:16 PM
At least Grealish and G. Gardner ( I hope) know the importance of the blues game.

Bruce should be able to get one last good game out of them for this season... hopefully
For that very reason I can see Bruce playing Grealish, Gardner and trying to get something out of Gabby. I'd rather Gardner and Gabby weren't anywhere near the pitch, and he selects an attacking minded team utilising Hourihane and Lansbury in their correct positions to go for an emphatic win. Unfortunately I think it will be the former and we'll just about scrape a draw.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: QuintonVilla on April 20, 2017, 07:59:44 PM
Beating them will be even sweeter now because a lot of the fuckers are suddenly full of beans and confidence that they're going to beat us. Under Zola they'd have come with their tails between their legs expecting a hiding.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Tony Erdington on April 20, 2017, 08:32:28 PM
It's 23 now and I think theyll beat us 3-1.

I KNEW IT, NOSE IN THE HOUSE!!!

you wont be laughing at 3 o'clock on sunday, when me and me Villa buddies sinking ale in the Aston social UTV
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: VancouverLion on April 20, 2017, 09:25:10 PM
It's 23 now and I think theyll beat us 3-1.
:o
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on April 20, 2017, 09:29:04 PM
It's 23 now and I think theyll beat us 3-1.


If Ads predicts Villa to lose it is truly the end times. #darkdays
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: FrankyH on April 20, 2017, 09:48:40 PM
 I've had a bet at 240/1 on 2-0 Hutton first goal scorer.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: b23 on April 20, 2017, 10:03:59 PM
Saw this in the Standard while in London today...

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/harry-redknapp-my-birmingham-start-vs-aston-villa-brings-up-bad-memories-a3519206.html (http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/harry-redknapp-my-birmingham-start-vs-aston-villa-brings-up-bad-memories-a3519206.html)

He doesn't like being hit by anything.



[/50p head]
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on April 20, 2017, 10:14:03 PM
9 years ago today



We always seem to have a very good record v them when we play them at VP in April. My Birthday is on Monday so I've claimed a few of these derby wins even if there was another game closer to it!

The Cahill 3-1 game popped up the other day and pretty sure the 1-0 when we beat them with a dodgy Milner penalty was also around this time 7 years ago.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: QuintonVilla on April 20, 2017, 10:20:52 PM
9 years ago today



We always seem to have a very good record v them when we play them at VP in April. My Birthday is on Monday so I've claimed a few of these derby wins even if there was another game closer to it!

The Cahill 3-1 game popped up the other day and pretty sure the 1-0 when we beat them with a dodgy Milner penalty was also around this time 7 years ago.
That 1-0 game was also on St George's Day the same as this Sunday.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on April 20, 2017, 10:48:39 PM
It's 23 now and I think theyll beat us 3-1.


If Ads predicts Villa to lose it is truly the end times. #darkdays

Seas are boiling, cats are marrying dogs...

It's how I felt on the way back from Fulham. Just have a really bad feeling about it.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: avfcpg on April 20, 2017, 11:05:02 PM
Sadly, this is going to be no different to any of the other 32 games under Bruce, tactically. I keep hoping that the next game will be when he lets the reins off and we absolute go for it...it's hasn't happened yet and it won't happen anytime soon. He can gee them up all he wants about how important it is, but it won't make a jot of difference if the tactics are the same.
Scrape a 1-1 draw, after going one up and then trying to hold onto the lead.
If we win then of course, great...if we lose or draw, meh. We've got bigger issues to address.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: adrenachrome on April 20, 2017, 11:22:39 PM
It's 23 now and I think theyll beat us 3-1.


If Ads predicts Villa to lose it is truly the end times. #darkdays

Seas are boiling, cats are marrying dogs...

It's how I felt on the way back from Fulham. Just have a really bad feeling about it.





I have been binge watching The Good Wife after avoiding it all these years and Alicia has just made The Beast With Two Backs with Negan.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on April 21, 2017, 12:21:46 AM
I was paraphrasing Gohstbusters myself.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: adrenachrome on April 21, 2017, 12:44:52 AM
I was paraphrasing Gohstbusters myself.

i suppose Alicia, as a fictional member of your profession, has a beady eye on the main chance.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: adrenachrome on April 21, 2017, 12:47:37 AM
And  in all fairness, Negan did not exist at the time of copulation.

Even so.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: sid1964 on April 21, 2017, 07:11:29 AM
I can honestly say, that I do not know a name of ONE of there players

We should win without any doubt, failure to win will mean that the pressure will mount on Bruce
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: dorsetvillian on April 21, 2017, 07:24:36 AM
I never enjoy these games but will of course be at Villa Park along with my son to see it all unfold.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on April 21, 2017, 08:21:03 AM
9 years ago today


brilliant. Commentator said 15 goals in 3 games. (Scored, not conceded).
Not the best Villa side, but Carew, Young, Barry, Mellberg- there's four who would walk into the current side.

The 3 games against Derby, Bolton and Blues is my favourite period since having a season ticket. Absolutely destroyed all 3 and Ashley Young seemed unplayable at the time.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: amfy on April 21, 2017, 10:09:47 AM
A transport issue for some to be aware of is that on Sunday the southbound cross city line will have a relapse cement bus service from Selly Oak to Redditch.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: JD on April 21, 2017, 10:18:17 AM
We are going to beat the f&%kers and yes I believe Gabby will play some big part in our win. Sunday is the day Hogan shows how good he is. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on April 21, 2017, 10:18:40 AM
I can honestly say, that I do not know a name of ONE of there players

We should win without any doubt, failure to win will mean that the pressure will mount on Bruce

*runs down the bookies to put a tenner on boyhood Villa fan and academy product Craig Gardner to score first......*
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Legion on April 21, 2017, 10:18:45 AM
A transport issue for some to be aware of is that on Sunday the southbound cross city line will have a relapse cement bus service from Selly Oak to Redditch.

relapse cement = replacement (I hope!)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on April 21, 2017, 10:21:29 AM
It is assumed that there would be  a minute silence  / Applause (probably best) for Ugo on Sunday

God knows what the inbreds will conjure up - disrupt that and it could light the fuse  :(
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Mortimer's Bear on April 21, 2017, 10:25:16 AM
It is assumed that there would be  a minute silence  / Applause (probably best) for Ugo on Sunday

God knows what the inbreds will conjure up - disrupt that and it could light the fuse  :(

I don't think they would disrupt a minutes applause, not even them.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: CJ on April 21, 2017, 10:57:02 AM
It is assumed that there would be  a minute silence  / Applause (probably best) for Ugo on Sunday

God knows what the inbreds will conjure up - disrupt that and it could light the fuse  :(

It's a minute's applause before the game (confirmed on OS)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: levico on April 21, 2017, 10:57:03 AM
I disagree, I'm almost certain they will disrupt it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: West Derby Villan on April 21, 2017, 11:13:44 AM
I don't think they will disrupt it either
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on April 21, 2017, 11:27:36 AM
I don't think they will disrupt it either

Of course they won't.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: postal on April 21, 2017, 11:32:02 AM
While the result isn't the most important thing now, its how they play. And if they play with half the commitment that Ugo did, the game should be ours.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Axl Rose on April 21, 2017, 12:00:42 PM
http://ibb.co/ixmp5k

Apparently Fox Sports are showing it on Sunday.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: VinnieChase84 on April 21, 2017, 12:34:17 PM
Win this for Ugo, end of
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Villa Lew on April 21, 2017, 12:47:00 PM
Ugo will get what he deserves a full VP paying tribute to him.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Des Little on April 21, 2017, 01:21:56 PM
I've just had a look at their forum (SHA) - I know, I know - and credit to them, they're being very respectful to the big fella.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: saunders_heroes on April 21, 2017, 01:25:59 PM
Win this for Ugo, end of

Indeed.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on April 21, 2017, 01:31:02 PM
Will be a strange atmosphere on Sunday, after what happened to Big Ugo.

Hope we have someone near Hogan, he can't hold the ball up as well as Kodija, so needs a player around him, like RHM, Grealish, or Adomah.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Des Little on April 21, 2017, 01:38:25 PM
I'd go with Adomah out wide and Jack just behind Hogan.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: The Edge on April 21, 2017, 02:54:19 PM
I've just had a look at their forum (SHA) - I know, I know - and credit to them, they're being very respectful to the big fella.
Fair play to them
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Stinkin_Thinkin on April 21, 2017, 04:49:29 PM
this has got to be the most stone wall nil niller since football was invented.
Redknapp won't want to lose his first game, Bruce desperatly won't want to lose, our goal machine is not playing, they are shit and even new manager bouce won't be enough also it's a 12 o clock ko.
It's going to be a crap game for the neutral. hope someone like Grealish can shine but I'm backing 0-0
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on April 21, 2017, 06:29:33 PM
I was dreading this

Today has created a bit of perspective. It doesn't actually matter that much, especially this season
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on April 21, 2017, 11:15:51 PM
I was dreading this

Today has created a bit of perspective. It doesn't actually matter that much, especially this season

First time today I've looked in this thread today and atm the game is an irrelevance in my mind as it's all about remembering Ugo at this time.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Jimbo on April 21, 2017, 11:31:46 PM
I was dreading this

Today has created a bit of perspective. It doesn't actually matter that much, especially this season

First time today I've looked in this thread today and atm the game is an irrelevance in my mind as it's all about remembering Ugo at this time.



I know what you mean, SHQ, but death doesn't negate life. It brings it into sharper focus. The game on Sunday is a big part of what Ugo would have lived for. I hope his ex-club can win it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Des Little on April 21, 2017, 11:38:32 PM
This is all getting a bit soft. If we are to channel our sadness over Ugo's passing, let's do so in a positive way and win on Sunday.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Steve67 on April 22, 2017, 12:34:57 AM
Smash them. For Ugo.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithe on April 22, 2017, 08:42:33 AM
I'd be amazed if this is anything other than a very drab 0-0. Bruce won't want to lose this and setting up a team to not get beat is a strength of his. Bent 'Arry will also see a draw as a great result and will set up accordingly.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Walmley_Villa on April 22, 2017, 09:30:59 AM
Wonder where the bluenose painters and decorators will target tonight?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: aj2k77 on April 22, 2017, 10:02:56 AM
Wonder where the bluenose painters and decorators will target tonight?

They should give the Sty a lick of paint, I went past it yesterday, utter dreary shithole.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on April 22, 2017, 10:06:32 AM
What were you doing in Mordor?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on April 22, 2017, 10:11:46 AM
I was dreading this

Today has created a bit of perspective. It doesn't actually matter that much, especially this season

First time today I've looked in this thread today and atm the game is an irrelevance in my mind as it's all about remembering Ugo at this time.



I know what you mean, SHQ, but death doesn't negate life. It brings it into sharper focus. The game on Sunday is a big part of what Ugo would have lived for. I hope his ex-club can win it.

Yeah I understand that. What surprised me more was still plenty of active focus in the Bruce Out thread. Bigger things surely than continually speculating whether a manager with still a pretty decent record in the last three months is good enough for the job than doing it yesterday?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on April 22, 2017, 01:27:02 PM
I was dreading this

Today has created a bit of perspective. It doesn't actually matter that much, especially this season

First time today I've looked in this thread today and atm the game is an irrelevance in my mind as it's all about remembering Ugo at this time.



I know what you mean, SHQ, but death doesn't negate life. It brings it into sharper focus. The game on Sunday is a big part of what Ugo would have lived for. I hope his ex-club can win it.

Yeah I understand that. What surprised me more was still plenty of active focus in the Bruce Out thread. Bigger things surely than continually speculating whether a manager with still a pretty decent record in the last three months is good enough for the job than doing it yesterday?

Isn't that exactly what you're doing with that post there?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: ajmant on April 22, 2017, 02:42:33 PM
I am unexpectedly free to go to the
Game tomorrow. If this is the wrong place to ask then I apologise in advance. Does anyone have a spare ticket, full price paid of course.

Thank you
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Virgil Caine on April 22, 2017, 03:15:24 PM
All
I am unexpectedly free to go to the
Game tomorrow. If this is the wrong place to ask then I apologise in advance. Does anyone have a spare ticket, full price paid of course.

Thank you

All sorted Ant- will see you at meeting place at 11.15am- Jezza
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: QuintonVilla on April 22, 2017, 03:36:11 PM
They've moved on from their fairytales of thousands of them in our ends. The new one over on SHA forum is that hundreds of them get in the away end without tickets and they storm the gates. Jesus christ.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on April 22, 2017, 03:46:40 PM
As soon as the police see hundreds outside without tickets they'll let them in. That's what they say, and who are we to doubt them - or, indeed, to point out that there'll be ticket checks and no-one without one will get within 200 yards of the turnstiles?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: ajmant on April 22, 2017, 03:56:48 PM
Thanks Virgil. Star man!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on April 22, 2017, 05:00:59 PM
Do you smell that? That's the scent of opportunity.

Send them down boys, send them down.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on April 22, 2017, 05:30:43 PM
It's all set up for us now.  Wonder what will happen.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on April 22, 2017, 06:10:18 PM
It's 2010s Aston Villa. We will fuck it up. That's what will happen.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on April 22, 2017, 06:18:33 PM
What I think as well.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Jimbo on April 22, 2017, 06:24:53 PM
It's set up perfectly for us to 'do a Villa'.

Don't.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Rudy65 on April 22, 2017, 06:35:53 PM
They've moved on from their fairytales of thousands of them in our ends. The new one over on SHA forum is that hundreds of them get in the away end without tickets and they storm the gates. Jesus christ.

Read the same. Bizarre. Whenever I have read their forum I am struck by their sheer lack of intelligence and spouting of utter shite
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: oswald funkletrumpet on April 22, 2017, 07:05:30 PM
They've moved on from their fairytales of thousands of them in our ends. The new one over on SHA forum is that hundreds of them get in the away end without tickets and they storm the gates. Jesus christ.

A load did it at the cup game last season

Fuck me its like adult jackanory
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: four fornicholl on April 22, 2017, 07:19:11 PM
They've moved on from their fairytales of thousands of them in our ends. The new one over on SHA forum is that hundreds of them get in the away end without tickets and they storm the gates. Jesus christ.

A load did it at the cup game last season

Fuck me its like adult jackanory
anyone remember storming the gates at  Derby in September 1990, I do. :) :-[
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on April 22, 2017, 07:22:40 PM
No three at the back please potato head!!

They physically dominated us for most of the game earlier in the season, can't afford it tomorrow.

---------------------Johnstone
Hutton, Chester, Baker, Taylor
Adamoah, Jedinak, Hourihane, Grealish
------------------------Lansbury
------------------------Hogan
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: supertom on April 22, 2017, 07:26:11 PM
The only thing I know for sure is that this game will be a fucking abomination to watch and a steaming, boiling expulsion of piss upon the eyes.
But winning and keeping them in a relegation dogfight and doing over Redknob will be very satisfying. We're going to Villa this up though probably.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on April 22, 2017, 09:17:58 PM
Johnston
Hutton Chester Baker Amavi
Jedinak
Adomah Garnder Lansbury Gabby
Hogan

Got a feeling Bruce will play a couple of local lads, Gabby and Gardner.

Rather they didn't play.

Not sure he trusts Grealish enough.

Let's just fucking win, any how possible.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on April 22, 2017, 09:22:14 PM
Whatever else he does just don't play the fcukin flawed 3-5-2 bollocks.  They have someone dangerous who is a wing back called Keita.  He will probably play on the wing tomorrow so could cause problems in that system.  He hasn't been as good since The Pink Panther films however.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: QuintonVilla on April 22, 2017, 09:40:51 PM
Please not Gardner. He's even worse than his brother, and he's Blues.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: FrankyH on April 22, 2017, 09:48:03 PM
Hate these games , as many have said before , nothing to gain but all to lose.
Just hope we play to our full potential and dispatch our jealous , inferiority complex ridden rivals into a depression that encompasses  relegation.
If we do do beat them , I wont even mind watching Arry's  "Face like a sweaty Ball Bag"   twitch non stop on the sky sports news feed post match interviews.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: LukeJames on April 22, 2017, 09:48:59 PM
Keita looks decent going forward, can't defend for shit though, he's a winger all day long, hopefully they play him at left back.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: robbo1874 on April 22, 2017, 10:34:57 PM
When we all started focusing on this fixture last week, my initial thoughts were: just don't lose Villa.
I'm now thinking I'd rather we have a proper go at beating them and if we come unstuck,
So be it. I know we're heavily reliant on one player to score and he's out, but we're playing a team sliding towards relegation. Bruce has to back himself to get 3 points.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: QuintonVilla on April 22, 2017, 10:59:26 PM
I've had a few beers but still nervous as feck! The feeling of dread of 'what if', but then there's the thought of how it feels if we beat them. Roll on 8am so I can get on the pre-match beers and release some nervous energy with a sing song. UTV
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: LukeJames on April 22, 2017, 11:01:20 PM
I've had a few beers but still nervous as feck! The feeling of dread of 'what if', but then there's the thought of how it feels if we beat them. Roll on 8am so I can get on the pre-match beers and release some nervous energy with a sing song. UTV

Just have a wank and get your head down mate, it'll be alright!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on April 22, 2017, 11:27:09 PM
Look at it this way.  If we win it'll bring with it the obvious benefits.  If we draw they are still in it.  If we lose then we can spout about how we are always happy to try and help out the less fortunate in society.  In all circumstance they can still only look back on this season as nothing short of disastrous.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on April 22, 2017, 11:29:37 PM
If they beat Villa, they'll regard the season as a success.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: LukeJames on April 22, 2017, 11:33:20 PM
Look at it this way.  If we win it'll bring with it the obvious benefits.  If we draw they are still in it.  If we lose then we can spout about how we are always happy to try and help out the less fortunate in society.  In all circumstance they can still only look back on this season as nothing short of disastrous.

As can we.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on April 22, 2017, 11:33:46 PM
Well yes but I was just ignoring that bit!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: LukeJames on April 22, 2017, 11:35:20 PM
Well yes but I was just ignoring that bit!

Fair play, fuck the fuckers!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: villan from luton on April 22, 2017, 11:47:22 PM
Please not Gardner. He's even worse than his brother, and he's Blues.

I actually thought he worked his nuts off at Fulham. I wouldn't start him tomorrow, I think Lansbury and Houriane with Jedi are the players ahead of him.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: pbavfckuwait on April 23, 2017, 06:29:21 AM
Just win Villa please please please
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: OzVilla on April 23, 2017, 06:32:58 AM
Just flippin get us a win today, our support deserves that out of this season.

As its not on TV, any know of any links to commentry, radio etc. Following blindly on the match thread is not my idea of a relaxing evening in.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: dorsetvillian on April 23, 2017, 06:53:35 AM
Up early, leaving at 7.30 for the journey up to Villa Park. UTV
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: devilla on April 23, 2017, 07:10:50 AM
Up early, leaving at 7.30 for the journey up to Villa Park. UTV

Same here. It's going to be quite a day.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: dorsetvillian on April 23, 2017, 07:22:06 AM
Hi Devilla, maybe see you on route. We get on the M5 at Taunton
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Neil Hawkes on April 23, 2017, 07:55:57 AM
Good luck today and come on the Villa
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Axl Rose on April 23, 2017, 08:17:52 AM
The website vipbox has the game listed, so possibly showing it.

Hogan to do these fuckers. 2-1
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: clash city rocker on April 23, 2017, 08:27:51 AM
Not confident about today. Think arry is a better motivator than Bruce.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on April 23, 2017, 08:28:02 AM
Just dare to dream that this might be our last ever league match against them.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on April 23, 2017, 08:39:05 AM
Not confident about today. Think arry is a better motivator than Bruce.
Motivation alone only works very rarely. Tactics, effort and better players works most of the time.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on April 23, 2017, 08:40:26 AM
Not confident about today. Think arry is a better motivator than Bruce.

Arry would have to be a better motivator given the poor quality human material he has to work with.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: The Edge on April 23, 2017, 08:47:33 AM
Hi Devilla, maybe see you on route. We get on the M5 at Taunton
Have a safe journey guys. I met some lads from Hampshire last night and some over from Ireland all Villa fans. The Scandanavian Villa fans will also be here. Villa Park will  packed to the rafters. Yet Sky still don't rate the 2nd city derby highly enough to screen it. Jokers.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on April 23, 2017, 08:49:53 AM
I can't remember them ever having better players than us, but I've seen them beat us a fair few times. This is hardly the 5-1 team. Bruce will have to have them much more up for this than they've seemed in the last few matches if we are going to win.

Just fucking win, please. Give us something to cheer, for once.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: TaxDodger on April 23, 2017, 09:07:39 AM
Regardless of what happens today we're still Aston Villa and they're still Birmingham City. So we win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Legion on April 23, 2017, 09:15:35 AM
Regardless of what happens today we're still Aston Villa and they're still Birmingham City. So we win.

Thumbs up!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on April 23, 2017, 09:20:21 AM
Regardless of what happens today we're still Aston Villa and they're still Birmingham City. So we win.

This is true, but I'd still like to win by winning.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: ez on April 23, 2017, 09:22:48 AM
They'll be going for it. We're on the beach. A draw.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: lennythekad on April 23, 2017, 09:53:17 AM

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Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: pooligan on April 23, 2017, 10:42:34 AM
I just hope Bruce has us fired up for this like he use to have them fired up
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on April 23, 2017, 10:43:27 AM
I feel sick. Hate these games. Please send them down so we don't have to play them next year.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: aj2k77 on April 23, 2017, 10:52:41 AM
Bruce you better earn your fucking pay today, I want to see those fuckers sent packing and no doubt. Half hearted, passionless, inspid display and Bruce won't have much good will left in the bank.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on April 23, 2017, 10:57:18 AM
Can't be there today due to a family wedding in  Yorkshire but forget the result people let's remember the big fella.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Gregorys Boy on April 23, 2017, 11:07:42 AM
Can't be there today due to a family wedding in  Yorkshire but forget the result people let's remember the big fella.

Well said!

Its interesting how much of an impact we can have on who goes down this season with Blackburn next week.  The Blues have been dire and hopefully we can take the positives from the last game and have too much for them.  3-1 Villa.  Grealish, Hogan, Becuna. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Birmingham City - Pre Match Thread
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