1-3 away win. New manager bounce, our season being over, the stupid systems and selections we've seen these past two games, our goal threat being out, they're going to turn us over and stay up to cap off a pretty uninspiring season for us.
The one thing in Bruce's favour is that he is fully aware of the importance of the game. As shit as we have become we're not as bad as them. Cut out the mistakes and we'll beat them with better football.better football tends to climb out the window when they walk through the door, unfortunately. Not like it's really ever been living at VP this season
The one thing in Bruce's favour is that he is fully aware of the importance of the game. As shit as we have become we're not as bad as them. Cut out the mistakes and we'll beat them with better football.
Is it on the box?NO
Not anywhere. :(Is it on the box?NO
A nothing game. Playing for pride I guess that's the best you can say.
A nothing game. Playing for pride I guess that's the best you can say.
I welcome cheating. I'd rather we score a blatant handball goal than a Dalian Atkinson wonder goal. The hilarity as they bleat all the way back to Sherlock Street warm the cockles of your heart.
I welcome cheating. I'd rather we score a blatant handball goal than a Dalian Atkinson wonder goal. The hilarity as they bleat all the way back to Sherlock Street warm the cockles of your heart.
I'd play 4 1 4 1. A system the players should know.
Hopefully Taylor is back, so the solid back four can return;
Johnstone, Taylor, Baker, Chester and Hutton.
Jedinak screening.
In front Hourihane and Lansbury, who both have to have licence to push 10 or 15 yards further up and really support Hogan, particularly in the case of Hourihane. They've got to be hitting the box, safe in the knowledge that Jedinak is occupying space in behind.
Adomah to come back and then if Green is not fit, RHM, so it can become a 433 if needs be.
The pace we move and close the ball has to increase.
Gardner, Jedinak and Grealish as a three are pace less and pedestrian. There is no dynamism there. Hourihane and Lansbury are genuine box to box men, with the engine and the ability to boot.
The mentality has to be right; not 2003 levels of stupidity, but committed. Anything else and we'll struggle.
To get the best from Hogan, Lansbury and Hourihane have to get a lot closer to him. First goal is absolutely critical.
I welcome cheating. I'd rather we score a blatant handball goal than a Dalian Atkinson wonder goal. The hilarity as they bleat all the way back to Sherlock Street warm the cockles of your heart.
I remember Roger Johnson's face when Gabby won that penalty against them in front of the Holte End. It looked as if his mum had smacked his bottom.
4-0. Best performance of the season. Hogan makes himself a hero. The players roared and driven on by the atmosphere. "Redknapp what's the score?". "You're supposed to be in jail". A massive nail in their relegation coffin as Blackburn have won the day before. They all leave the ground after an hour like when we beat them 5-1 and get back on their official coaches.
Or it will be the worst 0-0 you've ever seen.
I welcome cheating. I'd rather we score a blatant handball goal than a Dalian Atkinson wonder goal. The hilarity as they bleat all the way back to Sherlock Street warm the cockles of your heart.
I want to see....
1-0 Hutton 90+6 (replays show that he was offside and handled the ball twice)
Not feeling good about this and you just know Craig Gardner will be involved somewhere. 1-1Will he be in disguise ?
As I've said elsewhere Steve Bruce is really beginning to worry me. Lack of tactics, pace, goals and playing style are all ringing alarm bells for me. That said I can't bring myself to predict anything else but The Mighty Villa 1 The Great Unwashed 0.
I just hope your rightAs I've said elsewhere Steve Bruce is really beginning to worry me. Lack of tactics, pace, goals and playing style are all ringing alarm bells for me. That said I can't bring myself to predict anything else but The Mighty Villa 1 The Great Unwashed 0.
Have any of Bruce's sides ever played with anything other than a careful approach. I think we're going to get what Bruce has proven works. Hopefully with a sprinkle of quality and pace added over the summer we'll see something better next season.
Their fairytale thread has started on their forum with who's got tickets in our end, they're late this year. 7 of them in the Lower Holte apparantly haha.
Oh this is just one bloke and his 'six mates'. Have you ever known any of them have six mates?Their fairytale thread has started on their forum with who's got tickets in our end, they're late this year. 7 of them in the Lower Holte apparantly haha.
7000 surely?
Oh this is just one bloke and his 'six mates'. Have you ever known any of them have six mates?Their fairytale thread has started on their forum with who's got tickets in our end, they're late this year. 7 of them in the Lower Holte apparantly haha.
7000 surely?
Not feeling good about this and you just know Craig Gardner will be involved somewhere
Arry reckons 4 points will keep them up.He's probably right as that would mean Blackburn need 7pts and Forest need 6pts from the last 3 games, and it's unlikely that both will achieve that. With 3 games to go they could even get out of it with as little as just a couple of draws...
Match these bastards for effort, and we'll win 3-1.
I think everyone would take a draw now to be honest.
Match these bastards for effort, and we'll win 3-1.
We'll also need to match them in preparation, organisation, concentration, vigilance, desire and a sheer bloody-minded will to win. It would appear those qualities have deserted us in recent games. Our stars' egos cannot now be massaged by the prospect of the playoffs, yet the knuckledraggers are fighting for their lives. They need something from the game. Our generosity is legendary. I've seen this recipe before and it usually tastes like shite.
I had that debate with one in a pub in Kings Norton watching Villa. He said he wasn't at the game because he was prioritising his kids. When I pointed out that he wasn't with his kids he was in the pub, he went into full offended father mode like I was saying his children weren't important to him and insulting his kids!
I think everyone would take a draw now to be honest.
Why are people saying they would take a draw? It's Small Heath at home for feck sake. The way some are going on on here and Twitter you'd think we were playing Real Madrid or that Small Heath had just appointed Simeone not the crook Hound Dog Harry. Grow some balls, let's smash them on the pitch and let them hear what a full house sounds like.
Anne-Marie is very ladylike, I'll have you know!I had that debate with one in a pub in Kings Norton watching Villa. He said he wasn't at the game because he was prioritising his kids. When I pointed out that he wasn't with his kids he was in the pub, he went into full offended father mode like I was saying his children weren't important to him and insulting his kids!
Ha,ha, good man
Anne-Marie is very ladylike, I'll have you know!I had that debate with one in a pub in Kings Norton watching Villa. He said he wasn't at the game because he was prioritising his kids. When I pointed out that he wasn't with his kids he was in the pub, he went into full offended father mode like I was saying his children weren't important to him and insulting his kids!
Ha,ha, good man
Opps, sorry
Anne-Marie is very ladylike, I'll have you know!I had that debate with one in a pub in Kings Norton watching Villa. He said he wasn't at the game because he was prioritising his kids. When I pointed out that he wasn't with his kids he was in the pub, he went into full offended father mode like I was saying his children weren't important to him and insulting his kids!
Ha,ha, good man
Opps, sorry
Why are people saying they would take a draw? It's Small Heath at home for feck sake. The way some are going on on here and Twitter you'd think we were playing Real Madrid or that Small Heath had just appointed Simeone not the crook Hound Dog Harry. Grow some balls, let's smash them on the pitch and let them hear what a full house sounds like.F***in right!!!
Apparently kn-bhead Troy Deeney has said that one day he'd like to play for scum against Villa.
Apparently kn-bhead Troy Deeney has said that one day he'd like to play for scum against Villa. How soon is he planning this bearing in mind he's apparently buying a house locally? He'd be better off keeping his trap shut and focussing on his commitment to Watford.
Apparently kn-bhead Troy Deeney has said that one day he'd like to play for scum against Villa. How soon is he planning this bearing in mind he's apparently buying a house locally? He'd be better off keeping his trap shut and focussing on his commitment to Watford.
I had the 'pleasure' of hearing said Knob 'ead on Talkshite earlier today. He said he was going on Sunday, so I'm sure we can give him the sort of reception his attendance richly deserves.
Apparently kn-bhead Troy Deeney has said that one day he'd like to play for scum against Villa. How soon is he planning this bearing in mind he's apparently buying a house locally? He'd be better off keeping his trap shut and focussing on his commitment to Watford.
I had the 'pleasure' of hearing said Knob 'ead on Talkshite earlier today. He said he was going on Sunday, so I'm sure we can give him the sort of reception his attendance richly deserves.
I think completely ignoring a player as insignificant as Troy Deeney would work better. Being on the receiving end of abuse from Villa fans seems to make the recipient worthy of hero status among Blues fans.
I've just read that the game is being shown live on Eurosport anyone else heard this?Just checked the listings and its wall to wall snooker, would seem highly unlikely to be honest.
I've just read that the game is being shown live on Eurosport anyone else heard this?I've read things like this before, I think they just basically announce when any goals have gone in.
I've just read that the game is being shown live on Eurosport anyone else heard this?
Apparently kn-bhead Troy Deeney has said that one day he'd like to play for scum against Villa. How soon is he planning this bearing in mind he's apparently buying a house locally? He'd be better off keeping his trap shut and focussing on his commitment to Watford.
I had the 'pleasure' of hearing said Knob 'ead on Talkshite earlier today. He said he was going on Sunday, so I'm sure we can give him the sort of reception his attendance richly deserves.
I think completely ignoring a player as insignificant as Troy Deeney would work better. Being on the receiving end of abuse from Villa fans seems to make the recipient worthy of hero status among Blues fans.
Indeed. It'd be a back-handed compliment to him to even acknowledge he even exists. Typical from a Nose to admit the only reason he'd ever play for Small Heath would be to line up against the Villa. Now that's a back-handed compliment if ever there was one.
It's text commentary rather than any live stream.
It depends if there's actually proper TV cameras at VP on Sunday rather than the solitary one we now get for Saturday championship games. If there is a couple it will be on a stream somewhere.
I'd put a Villa sticker on it somewhere where he won't find it ✌Apparently kn-bhead Troy Deeney has said that one day he'd like to play for scum against Villa. How soon is he planning this bearing in mind he's apparently buying a house locally? He'd be better off keeping his trap shut and focussing on his commitment to Watford.
I had the 'pleasure' of hearing said Knob 'ead on Talkshite earlier today. He said he was going on Sunday, so I'm sure we can give him the sort of reception his attendance richly deserves.
I think completely ignoring a player as insignificant as Troy Deeney would work better. Being on the receiving end of abuse from Villa fans seems to make the recipient worthy of hero status among Blues fans.
Indeed. It'd be a back-handed compliment to him to even acknowledge he even exists. Typical from a Nose to admit the only reason he'd ever play for Small Heath would be to line up against the Villa. Now that's a back-handed compliment if ever there was one.
His Mother lives next door to my Brother and he regularly visits in his Lamborghini. I may well take a shit on it if I ever see it there.
It's text commentary rather than any live stream.
It depends if there's actually proper TV cameras at VP on Sunday rather than the solitary one we now get for Saturday championship games. If there is a couple it will be on a stream somewhere.
There must be a certain amount of cameras there Sunday because it's been 'beamed' live back to the Sty unless they've only agreed some cheapo deal.
I'm meeting up with a mate who I've not seen for over 10 years on Sunday. Pre match and post match beers so I just hope the Villa don't let us down. I'm sure they won't, I'm going for a 3-0 win. I've read this morning that we get the result back on Kodjia, I've no idea if it's likely to be overturned as I've not seen a replay of the incident. I did shout to Bruce on his way off on Monday to get em sorted for this game, let's hope he does.
I'm meeting up with a mate who I've not seen for over 10 years on Sunday. Pre match and post match beers so I just hope the Villa don't let us down. I'm sure they won't, I'm going for a 3-0 win. I've read this morning that we get the result back on Kodjia, I've no idea if it's likely to be overturned as I've not seen a replay of the incident. I did shout to Bruce on his way off on Monday to get em sorted for this game, let's hope he does.
Already decided ST Austell, reduced to one game after appeal so still misses Sunday.
http://www.thefa.com/news/2017/apr/19/jonathan-kodjia-wrongful-dismissal-claim-190417
I actually believe Bruce is going to play Gabby on Sunday.
I'd hope Adomah and RHM/Green play and we utilize some width to get closer to Hogan.
9 years ago todaybrilliant. Commentator said 15 goals in 3 games. (Scored, not conceded).
I also have a feeling that Gabby will be involved somewhere on Sunday.
I'd start him with Hogan as they hate the sight of him, he usually scores against the scum, let him have 60 mins and put them under pressure.
Deeney is a mutant, flat face with eyes on the side of his head. His parents must have been a Horse and a Frying Pan. He can fuck off and take his brain cell with him. Bruce better get those bastards up for a right old fight Sunday, I'm foaming at the mouth already.
He hasn't done anything to warrant a place true but he has scored against them in the past was my point, I don't think playing Hogan on his own works and the ball doesn't stick with him whereas the flabby one does hold it up and that may free Hogan to work off him and do what he does best get in behind, might be worth a go with limited other forward options (RHM/Adomah).
I also have a feeling that Gabby will be involved somewhere on Sunday.
I'd start him with Hogan as they hate the sight of him, he usually scores against the scum, let him have 60 mins and put them under pressure.
When was the last time he scored against them and what has he done to warrant a place in the team.
At least Grealish and G. Gardner ( I hope) know the importance of the blues game.
Bruce should be able to get one last good game out of them for this season... hopefully
And as its not on telly or not even the radio! So I'll be "watching" it online on "ceefax+"
Tight game, we'll win 2-1 and Dishonest 'Arry will look glum... though he always does. Him and Droopy separated at birth.
At least Grealish and G. Gardner ( I hope) know the importance of the blues game.
Bruce should be able to get one last good game out of them for this season... hopefully
And as its not on telly or not even the radio! So I'll be "watching" it online on "ceefax+"
Tight game, we'll win 2-1 and Dishonest 'Arry will look glum... though he always does. Him and Droopy separated at birth.
Is it really not on the radio? Why would they not be covering it?!
At least Grealish and G. Gardner ( I hope) know the importance of the blues game.
Bruce should be able to get one last good game out of them for this season... hopefully
And as its not on telly or not even the radio! So I'll be "watching" it online on "ceefax+"
Tight game, we'll win 2-1 and Dishonest 'Arry will look glum... though he always does. Him and Droopy separated at birth.
Is it really not on the radio? Why would they not be covering it?!
Radio WM are covering it on DAB and FM. Different commentary for each club.
At least Grealish and G. Gardner ( I hope) know the importance of the blues game.
Bruce should be able to get one last good game out of them for this season... hopefully
And as its not on telly or not even the radio! So I'll be "watching" it online on "ceefax+"
Tight game, we'll win 2-1 and Dishonest 'Arry will look glum... though he always does. Him and Droopy separated at birth.
Is it really not on the radio? Why would they not be covering it?!
Radio WM are covering it on DAB and FM. Different commentary for each club.
At least Grealish and G. Gardner ( I hope) know the importance of the blues game.For that very reason I can see Bruce playing Grealish, Gardner and trying to get something out of Gabby. I'd rather Gardner and Gabby weren't anywhere near the pitch, and he selects an attacking minded team utilising Hourihane and Lansbury in their correct positions to go for an emphatic win. Unfortunately I think it will be the former and we'll just about scrape a draw.
Bruce should be able to get one last good game out of them for this season... hopefully
It's 23 now and I think theyll beat us 3-1.
It's 23 now and I think theyll beat us 3-1.:o
It's 23 now and I think theyll beat us 3-1.
Saw this in the Standard while in London today...
http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/harry-redknapp-my-birmingham-start-vs-aston-villa-brings-up-bad-memories-a3519206.html (http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/harry-redknapp-my-birmingham-start-vs-aston-villa-brings-up-bad-memories-a3519206.html)
9 years ago today
That 1-0 game was also on St George's Day the same as this Sunday.9 years ago today
We always seem to have a very good record v them when we play them at VP in April. My Birthday is on Monday so I've claimed a few of these derby wins even if there was another game closer to it!
The Cahill 3-1 game popped up the other day and pretty sure the 1-0 when we beat them with a dodgy Milner penalty was also around this time 7 years ago.
It's 23 now and I think theyll beat us 3-1.
If Ads predicts Villa to lose it is truly the end times. #darkdays
It's 23 now and I think theyll beat us 3-1.
If Ads predicts Villa to lose it is truly the end times. #darkdays
Seas are boiling, cats are marrying dogs...
It's how I felt on the way back from Fulham. Just have a really bad feeling about it.
I was paraphrasing Gohstbusters myself.
9 years ago todaybrilliant. Commentator said 15 goals in 3 games. (Scored, not conceded).
Not the best Villa side, but Carew, Young, Barry, Mellberg- there's four who would walk into the current side.
I can honestly say, that I do not know a name of ONE of there players
We should win without any doubt, failure to win will mean that the pressure will mount on Bruce
A transport issue for some to be aware of is that on Sunday the southbound cross city line will have a relapse cement bus service from Selly Oak to Redditch.
It is assumed that there would be a minute silence / Applause (probably best) for Ugo on Sunday
God knows what the inbreds will conjure up - disrupt that and it could light the fuse :(
It is assumed that there would be a minute silence / Applause (probably best) for Ugo on Sunday
God knows what the inbreds will conjure up - disrupt that and it could light the fuse :(
I don't think they will disrupt it either
Win this for Ugo, end of
I've just had a look at their forum (SHA) - I know, I know - and credit to them, they're being very respectful to the big fella.Fair play to them
I was dreading this
Today has created a bit of perspective. It doesn't actually matter that much, especially this season
I was dreading this
Today has created a bit of perspective. It doesn't actually matter that much, especially this season
First time today I've looked in this thread today and atm the game is an irrelevance in my mind as it's all about remembering Ugo at this time.
Wonder where the bluenose painters and decorators will target tonight?
I was dreading this
Today has created a bit of perspective. It doesn't actually matter that much, especially this season
First time today I've looked in this thread today and atm the game is an irrelevance in my mind as it's all about remembering Ugo at this time.
I know what you mean, SHQ, but death doesn't negate life. It brings it into sharper focus. The game on Sunday is a big part of what Ugo would have lived for. I hope his ex-club can win it.
I was dreading this
Today has created a bit of perspective. It doesn't actually matter that much, especially this season
First time today I've looked in this thread today and atm the game is an irrelevance in my mind as it's all about remembering Ugo at this time.
I know what you mean, SHQ, but death doesn't negate life. It brings it into sharper focus. The game on Sunday is a big part of what Ugo would have lived for. I hope his ex-club can win it.
Yeah I understand that. What surprised me more was still plenty of active focus in the Bruce Out thread. Bigger things surely than continually speculating whether a manager with still a pretty decent record in the last three months is good enough for the job than doing it yesterday?
I am unexpectedly free to go to the
Game tomorrow. If this is the wrong place to ask then I apologise in advance. Does anyone have a spare ticket, full price paid of course.
Thank you
They've moved on from their fairytales of thousands of them in our ends. The new one over on SHA forum is that hundreds of them get in the away end without tickets and they storm the gates. Jesus christ.
They've moved on from their fairytales of thousands of them in our ends. The new one over on SHA forum is that hundreds of them get in the away end without tickets and they storm the gates. Jesus christ.
anyone remember storming the gates at Derby in September 1990, I do. :) :-[They've moved on from their fairytales of thousands of them in our ends. The new one over on SHA forum is that hundreds of them get in the away end without tickets and they storm the gates. Jesus christ.
A load did it at the cup game last season
Fuck me its like adult jackanory
I've had a few beers but still nervous as feck! The feeling of dread of 'what if', but then there's the thought of how it feels if we beat them. Roll on 8am so I can get on the pre-match beers and release some nervous energy with a sing song. UTV
Look at it this way. If we win it'll bring with it the obvious benefits. If we draw they are still in it. If we lose then we can spout about how we are always happy to try and help out the less fortunate in society. In all circumstance they can still only look back on this season as nothing short of disastrous.
Well yes but I was just ignoring that bit!
Please not Gardner. He's even worse than his brother, and he's Blues.
Up early, leaving at 7.30 for the journey up to Villa Park. UTV
Not confident about today. Think arry is a better motivator than Bruce.Motivation alone only works very rarely. Tactics, effort and better players works most of the time.
Not confident about today. Think arry is a better motivator than Bruce.
Hi Devilla, maybe see you on route. We get on the M5 at TauntonHave a safe journey guys. I met some lads from Hampshire last night and some over from Ireland all Villa fans. The Scandanavian Villa fans will also be here. Villa Park will packed to the rafters. Yet Sky still don't rate the 2nd city derby highly enough to screen it. Jokers.
Regardless of what happens today we're still Aston Villa and they're still Birmingham City. So we win.
Regardless of what happens today we're still Aston Villa and they're still Birmingham City. So we win.
Can't be there today due to a family wedding in Yorkshire but forget the result people let's remember the big fella.
All Blues no doubt.
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