Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Off Topic => Sports Arena => Topic started by: dave.woodhall on January 14, 2017, 11:24:05 AM
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New Year, New Thread. Anyone staying up for DeGale v Jack?
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Undecided at the moment. Will probably end up recording it and watching it when I get up. Big test for De Gale and a win would prove a big point.
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What time should it start?
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Anyone watch it? I woke up an hour too late. Great fight apparently.
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That fucking band's there again.
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That was a good fight, that bastard band are there again and David Price's fight won't last long.
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And that's David Price's career over.
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Another British world champion tonight?
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Another British world champion tonight?
It's a lovely story. I hope so. Mrs.Tayls is a Hull graduate so we know the city well.
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Their first one up done well.
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This will be hard earned this evening.
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4/1 McDonnell now is good odds.
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Money is in my pocket.
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Another phoney pay per view battle this weekend...Haye has always been the 'king' of brainless comments to generate PPV sales & Bellew after his last fight was plain moronic - a has been vs a never was.
Haye, Bellew, Chisora & Fury we do have some horrible boxers in those divisions
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Haye isn't terrible just past it.
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Haye is unravelling a bit in the lead up to this fight.
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Haye is also a huge favourite with the bookies.
I'm looking forward to it, but think Haye will be too quick. Bellew only needs one big punch though and his approach on Sky's 'gloves are off' upset Haye.
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I can only see Haye winning this. I like both of them. Both gobby, but this is boxing and its getting the viewers.
I think Haye is Joshua's biggest worry. If he's on form, and broken tie free, he is a danger to anyone.
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I can only see Haye winning this. I like both of them. Both gobby, but this is boxing and its getting the viewers.
I think Haye is Joshua's biggest worry. If he's on form, and broken tie free, he is a danger to anyone.
It was out of order, but I still think that punch Haye threw at one of the first press conferences impacted on Bellew. He didn't even see it as it was so quick and I think Bellew knew then that he was in trouble. He's been a lot more subdued after that and I think if Haye has got anything left in the tank he will stop him early on.
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Haye was once world class, Bellew is nowhere near that. I think Haye needs to talk up the fight, not just because of cashing in, but because he needs to find that edge that was probably easier to find when you're younger and hungrier, when things come easier and there a less injuries to worry about.
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Hoping Bellew will win, Haye is a disgrace to the sport of boxing. He has made vile comments to Bellew, such as crushing his skull in and that he will put him in hospital. Particularly in view of the recent death of the Scottish boxer Mike Towell following a fight and Nick Blackwell receiving serious head injuries following his defeat by Chris Eubank Jr.
I think Haye will win, but the longer the bout goes on, then Bellew may have a better chance of coming out on top.
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Lets face it...they are both a pair of egotistical gobshites and they have both been talking disrespectful shite in the build up to this fight. I've never liked Bellew for those exact reasons in his previous fights so calling Haye a disgrace and disrespectful is very hypocritical from Bellew as he's done the same to other opponents with an added touch of ego.
It is what it is though...it is all talk whatever comes out of their mouths, and the real talking is done in the ring. Bellew is slow, ponderous and methodical...Haye is fast, strong and unpredictable. Can't see this going any other way than a Haye win and silencing the scouse gobshite.
Bellew may also be tempted to retire after this big pay day so he can enjoy his retirement with his family.
If Haye wins, then it's only a matter of time until a fight with Joshua...then I'll be hoping Joshua silences Haye.
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Joshua is a gentleman and a credit to the sport. You never see him bad mouthing his opponent, the bloke's got class, as a person as well as a boxer. Can't wait to see his fight with Klitschko, which I reckon he'll win and go onto to be one of our greatest ever heavyweights.
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Right, I think Haye, but I've had a few bob on Bellew at 50/1 to win either in the 3rd, 4th, 5th or 6th.
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Lets face it...they are both a pair of egotistical gobshites and they have both been talking disrespectful shite in the build up to this fight. I've never liked Bellew for those exact reasons in his previous fights so calling Haye a disgrace and disrespectful is very hypocritical from Bellew as he's done the same to other opponents with an added touch of ego.
It is what it is though...it is all talk whatever comes out of their mouths, and the real talking is done in the ring. Bellew is slow, ponderous and methodical...Haye is fast, strong and unpredictable. Can't see this going any other way than a Haye win and silencing the scouse gobshite.
Bellew may also be tempted to retire after this big pay day so he can enjoy his retirement with his family.
If Haye wins, then it's only a matter of time until a fight with Joshua...then I'll be hoping Joshua silences Haye.
A win for Haye would put him back in the heavyweight mix and Bellew would just go back down to Cruiserweight, where he is a world champion. A Bellew win would be the end of the road for Haye and would leave the former with a decision to make.
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That is true...but a Bellew win looks extremely unlikely to me. Absolutely fairplay to him if he does manage to win though.
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Is paying 16 quid the only way I will get to see this at home tomorrow?
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Is paying 16 quid the only way I will get to see this at home tomorrow?
You can join the military, get posted abroad and watch it free on BFBS.
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So Haye is approx 1st heavier than Bellew and looks in great condition. Bellew seems to be banking on Haye tiring with his extra weight in the later rounds...but will Bellew even make it past round 6 to find out? I really don't fancy his chances if Haye comes out all guns blazing in the early rounds.
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I'm really curious to see what Haye is capable of.
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The Nose won, I see.
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Hopefully Bellew gets obliterated, really dislike his smug face.
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Haye looks fucked
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Haye's leg was gone which basically ruined the fight.
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Impressed he lasted as long as he did.
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Yeah took courage there's probably a rematch there if Haye wants to go through injury recovery again.
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I'd like to see it again with a bit of mutual respect.
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Yeah took courage there's probably a rematch there if Haye wants to go through injury recovery again.
I can't see it, he should retire, he's had too many injuries now and it's 12-18 months for him to come back from that I reckon, the big fight he wanted at the end of it - AJ - will be well out of his reach by them.
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I think there's enough from that fight to do it again, it depends on the injury.
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Haye was in control of that fight until he got injured. He showed tremendous courage to fight on, but the fight was as good as over from that point.
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I think there's enough from that fight to do it again, it depends on the injury.
Can't see it really. Thought Bellew struggled a bit with the extra weight, so he might look at a move back down to cruiser. Saying that, he's just been calling out Wilder so who knows.
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I missed the fight...what happened?!
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Haye was in control of that fight until he got injured. He showed tremendous courage to fight on, but the fight was as good as over from that point.
Exactly what I thought. Bellew wasn't getting near Haye until the injury. Great courage from Haye, he couldn't hardly move after the injury and was getting pummeled, but he wouldn't quit.
A real shame really, but the Katie Taylor fight more than made up for it.
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I missed the fight...what happened?!
Haye was looking in control for the first three or four rounds. Constantly on the front foot chasing Bellew round the ring. Caught Bellew a few times, but also got caught a couple of times himself. Then in the 6th, Haye's leg went. Both of them slipped over, but don't know if that's what made Haye's injury worse or was caused because his leg was knackered. Bellew then won every round from then on, but seemed to lack the energy to finish Haye off, before it was stopped in the 11th after Haye fell through the ropes.
Then at the end there was a huge cringeworthy respect fest that went on for what seemed like hours. Joshua would put Bellew on his arse inside two rounds.
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Lad at work had a tenner on Bellew in the 11th at 100-1.
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So basically Haye lost on technical knockout because he got injured? Well that sucks.
It seems Haye failed to deliver the goods despite his injury, and fairplay to Bellew for seeing it through to the near end despite the circumstances. All things considered, it sounds like a rematch would be a fair outcome but it could be a waste of time for Haye if he's so injury prone at the age of 36+.
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I know they both talked about a rematch, but I think once the dust has settled demand for that fight will dwindle.
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Bellew needs to stick to cruiserweight, it was clear it was a step too far for him last night.
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Surprised all I can say about the result from all the pre-fight hype.
Bellow would still struggle against top class.
Would love to have been in the Haye dressing room afterwards re his injury. He was absolutely cream crackered after the first 3 rounds.
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The Nose won, I see.
Who dat?
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Time for the BBBC to get a hold on Eddie Hearn and demand fighters show respect in the build up to the fights...particularly with the PPV the charade of hatred goes all the way to the start of the fight to generate sales & is frankly pathetic.
BBBC should be threatening (& carrying out if needed) to cancel fights where the two camps show excessive disrespect.
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I thought the fight was a farce. Haye couldn't move after the leg injury and should have been pulled out. The two afterwards, trying to talk up a rematch, all pally pally, engineering another pay day. When was the last time Eddie Hearn put together a decent, competitive ppv?
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The Nose won, I see.
Who dat?
Sam Eggington.
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Bellew needs to stick to cruiserweight, it was clear it was a step too far for him last night.
Agree, but cruiserweight isn't a particularly attractive division, meaning there is far more interest and financial rewards in the heavyweight division. As he said himself, a fight against Parker or Wilder would earn Bellew way more than any fight at cruiserweight.
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Bellew needs to stick to cruiserweight, it was clear it was a step too far for him last night.
Agree, but cruiserweight isn't a particularly attractive division, meaning there is far more interest and financial rewards in the heavyweight division. As he said himself, a fight against Parker or Wilder would earn Bellew way more than any fight at cruiserweight.
From what I saw last night I think that Parker or Wilder would smash Bellew.
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He probably knows that too.
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Now THAT's a punch.
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Now THAT's a punch.
Wow, that's a clean punch. Out before he hit the deck.
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Nice win there for Jason Wellborn.
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Linares looking a class act against Crolla here. Speed, skill and vicious power.
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It looks like Martin Gethin's career might have ended tonight.
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Or non Boxing in this case. Heard Hughie fury has pulled out of his title fight with Joseph Parker within two weeks of the fight being held. The Promoters over here are not happy with Fury's Team.
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Tommy Langford lost. Oh dear.
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Any thoughts on the Joshua vs Klitschko fight this weekend?
It's hard to see anything other than a Joshua win. Klitschko has nothing to lose as this is likely to be his last career fight whatever the outcome, so I hope Joshua can deliver with all the hype, anticipation and expectation placed on his shoulders.
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Dunno if of interest to anyone but I saw the other day that The Regency on the Hagley Road have an evening with Joe Calzaghe coming up. I assume more info is available on the web. They seem to have a few boxers there as remember seeing them advertising Ricky Hatton a while ago. No interest to me but thought it may be to some of the boxing fans on here.
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Any thoughts on the Joshua vs Klitschko fight this weekend?
It's hard to see anything other than a Joshua win. Klitschko has nothing to lose as this is likely to be his last career fight whatever the outcome, so I hope Joshua can deliver with all the hype, anticipation and expectation placed on his shoulders.
It's a curious fight. I like and I rate AJ, but you never know with Klitschko and even at 41 he's more than a level above anything Joshua has fought in the professional ranks.
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Klitscko to stop AJ in round 6 after taking a few heavy shots in the first two rounds.
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Klitschko is too old. AJ to win in 4. Simply too fast and powerful...
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I've got a lot of time for Klitschko and his brother, and for me they are both as good an example out there of what sportsmen should be. He has looked very focused in the interviews I have seen this week and it will be a big test for Joshua. A lot has been made of Klitschko's experience, but he has operated in a very barren time for heavyweight boxing and won't have really come across anyone like AJ before.
If Klitschko can keep Joshua away with that left jab and vicious right hand then he might stand a chance. If AJ can get on top of him early though, it could be all over quite quickly as Klitschko's chin has been questionable at times in his career.
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Agree with Tomd. Klitschko is a class act. The respect between the two is a nice change and good to see.
For me Joshua will stop him in the fifth or sixth. However, like Hsye Bellew, the longer it goes on Klitschko gets stronger as Bellew did. He will be grabbing a lot and spoiling Joshua getting into a rhythm. Interesting that he's his lightest ever. He looks in great shape.
I've not looked forward to a fight so much in years.
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Agree with Tomd. Klitschko is a class act. The respect between the two is a nice change and good to see.
For me Joshua will stop him in the fifth or sixth. However, like Hsye Bellew, the longer it goes on Klitschko gets stronger as Bellew did. He will be grabbing a lot and spoiling Joshua getting into a rhythm. Interesting that he's his lightest ever. He looks in great shape.
I've not looked forward to a fight so much in years.
Me too. Just like the old days when boxing was regularly on ITV and BBC
Joshua in 6 for me
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Luke Campbell has a fight on his hands here.
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This Quigg fight is a belter.
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It's a godawful undercard though.
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Yeah it is.
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And when the fuck did this bloody song become the International Boxing Anthem?
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First hint of nerves from AJ I think post anthems.
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I love The Voice.
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Cagey first.
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Wlad looks pretty fleet of foot.
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Klitchko would appear to be Michael Jackson.
Listening on radio it's all about K's moves.
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Sounds like a great round, got to be a KO coming. Wish I'd stumped up £20!
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Whooo
K o the floor, now Round 6
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Sounds like Joshua might have punched himself out.
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Joshua on the deck!
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Bloody hell.
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This is dead exciting.
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You do feel that AJ has to lose some of that muscle mass. Once you've burned the calories of your pre-fight carb-loaded meal, it can't be fun for the body trying to power that mass around the ring.
Hats off to Wlad though. Great pro, thought he was gone after that knockdown.
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Joshua
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Wow.
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Well done AJ, looked decidedly shaky in the middle but seized the moment at the end there.
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Superb, fair play Joshua what a great fight.
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K could have got it earlier.
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Well that was better than any recent Mayweather fight I've seen, all that guy does is dance around the ring. Good win Josh.
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Yay, AJ!
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That was an incredible fight, the best at heavyweight since God knows when.
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Amazing stuff and both men are class acts.
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Fecking brilliant !
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I am so pleased for him.
It was tremendous.
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That was simply extraordinary. What a great fight from the first round to the last. Marvellous.
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It's been over a decade since I last watched a professional fight, and it was well worth the wait. Really enjoyed that. Really good fight.
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Best 33 minutes of sport I have seen in a long time. Some of our players could do with some of that heart both of those guys showed.
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Great to see a great fight with great respect between the fighters.
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Brilliant AJ! He'll dominate for years!
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Got to say that fight is the first time in god knows how long that I thought the box office fee was worth it.
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K could have got it earlier.
He just didn't have it in the tank to step on it and finish Joshua when the chance was there. Maybe age played a part or perhaps he was a bit too conservative.
Massive respect goes to both fighters after that though and especially to Joshua who looked gone at one point. To come through that and then have the energy to produce a finish like that takes something very special.
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I also think that fight will help define Wlad as a quality fighter.
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K could have got it earlier.
He just didn't have it in the tank to step on it and finish Joshua when the chance was there. Maybe age played a part or perhaps he was a bit too conservative.
Massive respect goes to both fighters after that though and especially to Joshua who looked gone at one point. To come through that and then have the energy to produce a finish like that takes something very special.
Yes,
That finish was an incredible comeback. K had already comeback by then. Then JA was down and then recovered.
The entire fight was a proper contest. Fantastic from both.
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Brilliant fight, Wlad looked well up for it (much more so than for Fury) and showed all of his experience but Joshua is a machine. If he's on his feet he will eventually find a gap and once he rocks someone it takes something special to get back into the fight. Wlad did it once (which clearly shocked AJ) but the 2nd time he just didn't have the gas.
I've said a few times that there's something really special about AJ and winning the best heavyweight fight for at least a decade is a good way to start delivering on that.
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K could have got it earlier.
He just didn't have it in the tank to step on it and finish Joshua when the chance was there. Maybe age played a part or perhaps he was a bit too conservative.
Massive respect goes to both fighters after that though and especially to Joshua who looked gone at one point. To come through that and then have the energy to produce a finish like that takes something very special.
Yes,
That finish was an incredible comeback. K had already comeback by then. Then JA was down and then recovered.
The entire fight was a proper contest. Fantastic from both.
I really thought WK would just see it home in the last few rounds like he has done so many times before. Joshua found some energy from somewhere though and WK just couldn't hold him off. Lot of talk about WK retiring, but I think he would have beaten pretty much every other heavyweight in the world with that kind of showing tonight.
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WHAT.A.FIGHT
Going into the eleventh it stil;l could hav ebeen anybodies. But props to Joshua the way he responded.The middle weight division is like theb1500nmeters in that it needs a strong competitor om what is both sports blud riband event. However, neithe rspoer can suebive without its 100m or Heavyweight Champion. Joshua wen some way to giving boxing that genuije world class appeal again.
Wgat a fight. He's nowhere neer the finished article but the ebbs and flows and to come back the way that he did was proper Roy of Te rovers old school stuff. It wa sbrillaint.
I've got jore to say but I'm [issed and this is taking me longer to type than \i want
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The other thing I want to mention is that it was quite disingenuous to keep harping on about youth winning over in the end. Even in the 10th round they were complimenting Klistchko for his lightness on his feet and his movement, so don't give me one round later was purely because of Joshua's age. It wasn't. It was because like in the Eubank - Watson fight, in the 11th round Joshua was better.
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Wow! What an amazing fight!
It looked like it could have been over for WK in the 5th, but AJ literally punched himself out and was dead on his feet in the 6th...I didn't think he'd make it through another round after being knocked down let alone make it to the 11th!!! AJ had to fight clever in order to recover and stay on his feet, regained his focus and stamina, and had to go for the knockout otherwise he would most likely have lost of points (sounds like it could have gone either way on the cards). WK didn't seem to have the killer instinct that AJ has, and when the opportunity arose, AJ punished him with some devastating combinations and power.
Congratulations to AJ, and fairplay to both AJ and WK for an amazing fight.
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WHAT.A.FIGHT
Going into the eleventh it stil;l could hav ebeen anybodies. But props to Joshua the way he responded.The middle weight division is like theb1500nmeters in that it needs a strong competitor om what is both sports blud riband event. However, neithe rspoer can suebive without its 100m or Heavyweight Champion. Joshua wen some way to giving boxing that genuije world class appeal again.
Wgat a fight. He's nowhere neer the finished article but the ebbs and flows and to come back the way that he did was proper Roy of Te rovers old school stuff. It wa sbrillaint.
I've got jore to say but I'm [issed and this is taking me longer to type than \i want
Pissed you say? I couldn't tell.
It's like you typed with your face...
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I also think that fight will help define Wlad as a quality fighter.
Yep. AJ will rightly get the headlines, but WK put on the kind of performance last night that not many will have seen from him before. On reflection, the lack of competition in that division over the past decade has probably not worked in his favour in that he hasn't faced the kind of challenge he did last night. Carl Froch in commentary continually spoke about how good his footwork was last night and as I said earlier in the thread, he probably would have beaten any other heavyweight in the world with that performance.
I thought he would retire whichever way the result went last night, but after seeing that I'm not so sure. There are some world titles out there which he could definitely target and last night might have given him the spur to go an win one.
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AJ had to fight clever in order to recover and stay on his feet, regained his focus and stamina, and had to go for the knockout otherwise he would most likely have lost of points (sounds like it could have gone either way on the cards).
I had AJ one round ahead after ten, but yeah, it was close.
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Just in case anyone would like to see it again or haven't watched it at all, I found the full fight in decent quality on YouTube:
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Kal and Gavin fighting in Birmingham tonight. When do we think the party tunes will start?
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Kal and Gavin fighting in Birmingham tonight. When do we think the party tunes will start?
And it's started.
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Kal and Gavin fighting in Birmingham tonight. When do we think the party tunes will start?
What a waste of talent Frankie Gavin is. Why are people on SKY still talking about him fulfilling his pontential?
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He was due to be fighting at 140. He weighed in at 149.
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Enjoyed that one. Davis had heart.
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He was due to be fighting at 140. He weighed in at 149.
As they were saying on SKY, he just hasn't got the power to be a welterweight, but hasn't got the dedication to operate at a lighter weight. Looked very laboured again tonight against limited opposition.
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It must be hard for him to get motivated when he's fighting eight rounds down a bill he should be topping.
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Yafai looking very sharp, but the Japanese lad already showing that he has real heart.
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Yafai looks like he is tiring.The Japanese lad just doesn't look like he has enough to finish him if the fight swings his way.
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What a tough fighter that Japanese fella is.
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Dave - did Lennox Clarke fight? I thought he was on the undercard and due on Sky.
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Dave - did Lennox Clarke fight? I thought he was on the undercard and due on Sky.
Drew with Karel Horejsek according to Boxrec.
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Thanks. I couldn't find the result.
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The way Boxnation shows an entire bill means you can see really good down the bill fights like this one.
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I didn't think Frank Warren was still in the business, but there you go, and he doesn't look like he's aged in 20 years.
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I didn't think Frank Warren was still in the business, but there you go, and he doesn't look like he's aged in 20 years.
He's putting some good bills together now. He doesn't have the big names but he matches fighters well.
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I didn't think Frank Warren was still in the business, but there you go, and he doesn't look like he's aged in 20 years.
He's putting some good billa together now. He doesn't have the big names but he matches fighters well.
That's like the polar opposite of how he used to be - names whose records must be protected at all costs.
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I didn't think Frank Warren was still in the business, but there you go, and he doesn't look like he's aged in 20 years.
He's putting some good billa together now. He doesn't have the big names but he matches fighters well.
That's like the polar opposite of how he used to be - names whose records must be protected at all costs.
That's Eddie Hearn's job now. So far tonight I've seen a decent if one-sided British title fight, an absolute war and two very promising youngsters. Now we've got a British fighter challenging a genuine world champion. It's the sort of bill boxing was made for.
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That was a convincing win.
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That was a convincing win.
Indeed. The commentators debating if the stoppage was too soon, but not stopping it then would only have meant stopping it a minute or so later, or even Walsh going out cold. Davis looked a class above.
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That was a convincing win.
Indeed. The commentators debating if the stoppage was too soon, but not stopping it then would only have meant stopping it a minute or so later, or even Walsh going out cold. Davis looked a class above.
He could have been stopped when he got up. He was staggering and that could have made it nasty.
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It's good to see George Groves finally win a world title.
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Indeed.
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Brook was beaten down there. Think that might be the end of him at the world level.
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Brook was beaten down there. Think that might be the end of him at the world level.
Thought he faded pretty badly there. Weight issues may have been a problem, but as you say it might be the start of a decline.
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Anyone watching this?
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I am struggling to see the excitement about this Mayweather and McGregor fight.
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I am struggling to see the excitement about this Mayweather and McGregor fight.
Three rounds maximum. Less if Mayweather wants it.
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I am struggling to see the excitement about this Mayweather and McGregor fight.
Three rounds maximum. Less if Mayweather wants it.
Some UFC bloke versus Mayweather? I don't care how good he is at his own sport but any average boxer should have ring craft that would cause him problems.
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I am struggling to see the excitement about this Mayweather and McGregor fight.
Three rounds maximum. Less if Mayweather wants it.
I agree. I think it's going to be like a Cat toying with a mouse before going in for the kill.
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Ormond v Evans - it's always better to see two well-matched boxers rather than a big name versus a no-hoper.
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This Paul Smith V Tyron Zuege fight seems like one-way traffic so far :-\
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Barnes v Olteanu is much closer than you'd have thought.
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I am struggling to see the excitement about this Mayweather and McGregor fight.
Three rounds maximum. Less if Mayweather wants it.
Whoever is promoting / sanctioning that fight should be in the hook for manslaughter charges if the worst does happen - putting an amateur in with one of the all time greats is foolish bordering on dangerous.
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I am struggling to see the excitement about this Mayweather and McGregor fight.
Three rounds maximum. Less if Mayweather wants it.
Whoever is promoting / sanctioning that fight should be in the hook for manslaughter charges if the worst does happen - putting an amateur in with one of the all time greats is foolish bordering on dangerous.
Mayweather will be in exhibition mode. Total non-event.
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I am struggling to see the excitement about this Mayweather and McGregor fight.
Three rounds maximum. Less if Mayweather wants it.
Whoever is promoting / sanctioning that fight should be in the hook for manslaughter charges if the worst does happen - putting an amateur in with one of the all time greats is foolish bordering on dangerous.
Mayweather will be in exhibition mode. Total non-event.
I think they should alternate each round with the others art
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Ted Cheeseman looked very promising tonight.
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Watching Pacquio v horn. More action already than Pacqiuao-Mayweather. Horn looking okay but you can sense a big blow from Pacquiao will end this.
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4 rounds in and Horn cut. His face looks like it's done 8 rounds already.
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Couple of accidental clashes of the head has seen two cuts open up on Pacquiao. Gives Horn a chance although after 7 I'd have him 5-2 down. Horn has been leading with his head a lot though and is trying to rough up and lean on Pacquiao. Maybe trying to wear him down with bus natural weight advantage to take advantage in the latter rounds. He's beh d right now if it's stopped so needs to up it.
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Horn did seriously well to survive the 9th. Properly beaten up. Ref just looking for an excuse to stop it.
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Think that ended 8 seconds early. Great fight. 116-113 Pacquiao for me.
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Horn wins! Clear home town decision.
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Tonight should be a good one.
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And so far it has been.
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And so far it has been.
Good win for Eubank Jr. Thought he did very well against an opponent who was tough but didn't offer a great deal.
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He's getting very close to being good enough for the very top level, if he's not already.
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Eddie Hearn has just been on Talk Sport to say the Joshua Klitschko fight is off, as Klitschko is retiring.
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Yeah, now confirmed. Shame, as that was one of the best fights I've seen at heavyweight.
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I am struggling to see the excitement about this Mayweather and McGregor fight.
Three rounds maximum. Less if Mayweather wants it.
Whoever is promoting / sanctioning that fight should be in the hook for manslaughter charges if the worst does happen - putting an amateur in with one of the all time greats is foolish bordering on dangerous.
Mayweather will be in exhibition mode. Total non-event.
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I hope it goes 12 rounds and that Mayweather toys with him the whole way through.
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As for Klitschko, he obviously felt that fight and doesn't want the pain again. He'd have retired if he'd won too.
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As for Klitschko, he obviously felt that fight and doesn't want the pain again. He'd have retired if he'd won too.
Think so too. It will be interesting to see how history remembers him, as he fought at a time when there were practically no opponents in his class (apart from his brother) and it all became a bit of a boring procession. The Joshua fight really brought the best out in him and it is a shame that he didn't have more challenges like that throughout his career.
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Anyone staying up tonight?
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Nah, can't see it being that great.
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I am planning to (we'll see how enthusiastic I may be at 4am and knackered and still waiting...), but it's very much despite my own better judgement. I know it'll be terribly dull, regardless, as most Mayweather fights are. It's just the stupid hope that maybe McGregor can pull something out of the bag. More fool me...
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I'm going to sit up and watch it - I reckon I'll regret it afterwards especially as I want to be up for GoT tomorrow but I'm looking forward to it at the minute!
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I'm staying up. McGregor has been talking a lot of shit since this was announced, time to see if he can back it up.
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Shame for Cleverly there but the referee made the right call, he was getting mullered.
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McGregor already looking like he's blowing out of his arse.
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Typical Mayweather fight so far.
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McGregor looks done for
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McGregor dead on his feet, think Mayweather to drop him round 10 or 11.
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Game over boys.
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There we go, all over.
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All McGregor really had was his size.
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Pretty straight forward for Mayweather after the first 2 rounds. I had to switch streams a few times as they kept getting shut down.
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In fairness for his first pro boxing match he did alright.
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In fairness for his first pro boxing match he did alright.
Yes, all things considered he did OK.
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He did okish, although Mayweather could have stopped that whenever he wanted in all fairness.
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Let's put it into perspective though.
McGregor lost to a 40 year old who has been eating cheeseburgers for two years.
McGregor is at his peak. He wouldn't have lasted 2 rounds against Mayweather in his prime, or against a current boxing champion of equal weight.
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What surprised me was how little "bite" there seemed to be on McGregor's punches - even at the start of the fight. Of course, he was up against the supreme defensive boxer of all time, but his shots seemed laboured, with nothing behind them. And then he tailed off from there...
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What surprised me is how quickly he tired, a young man at his physical peak, compared to the 40 year old, two year retired, Mayweather.
Mayweather has not always been one of my favourites, but this just goes to prove, if proof were needed, what an amazing boxer he really was.
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I thought McGregor was just an irritating loudmouth not knowing anything about the sport he excels in but doing 10 rounds against one of the best boxers of all times deserves respect.
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He's a tough fighter.
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Mayweather hadn't knocked anyone out in about 10 years. If the ref had let it go a little longer McGregor would have gone out on a stretcher.
Mayweather was toying with a man he knew had no power.
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What surprised me is how quickly he tired, a young man at his physical peak, compared to the 40 year old, two year retired, Mayweather.
Mayweather has not always been one of my favourites, but this just goes to prove, if proof were needed, what an amazing boxer he really was.
He's never trained for that length of fight before. MMA is 25 minutes maximum.
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Agreed.
MMA fighters do not have the stamina and fitness of boxers. Even a 29 year old MMA champion when pitted against a two year retired 40 year old boxer.
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The domestic season starts here...
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Smith fought a solid fight, be interesting to see how he gets on in the rest of the series
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Sounds like a shocker of a decision in the GGG vs Canelo fight.
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I only saw it from the 7th onwards, but from what I saw a draw seemed fair. The shocker was just the one scorecard that had Canelo winning by 118-110. It was way closer than that.
GGG was relentless going forward but thought Canelo landed the better shots of the later rounds even though he was a bit ragged. GGG has a chin of granite though.
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Saw for the first time last night on BT a British boxer Daniel Dubois, 20, fighting another Brit A J Carter. After 10 seconds of the 1st round Dubois knocked Carter down, then 10 seconds later knocked him again and his next punch knocked him unconscious, the fight was over after 48 secs. The Doctors gave Carter treatment, including oxygen, for several minutes, but thankfully he was eventually able to get to his feet. Good to see Dubois was not celebrating his victory, but more concerned about the health of his opponent. The young man has obviously got class.
Frank Warren claims Dubois punches harder than any other British heavyweight he has seen and has more potential than any other boxer he has worked with. Clearly a named to watch out for.
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I only saw it from the 7th onwards, but from what I saw a draw seemed fair. The shocker was just the one scorecard that had Canelo winning by 118-110. It was way closer than that.
GGG was relentless going forward but thought Canelo landed the better shots of the later rounds even though he was a bit ragged. GGG has a chin of granite though.
Yeah, agree. 118-110 was a bizarre interpretation of the fight which, I think, is detracting from a reasonable argument that the fight was a draw. If you give the first three rounds and the last three rounds to Canelo which I don't think is that controversial, then there's your draw.
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Looks like the end of Don Broadhurst's career there.
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Looks like the end of Don Broadhurst's career there.
What's happened to him Dave..i assume he has lost.
Didn't realise this wasn't on TV but on Youtube.
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Looks like the end of Don Broadhurst's career there.
What's happened to him Dave..i assume he has lost.
Didn't realise this wasn't on TV but on Youtube.
Knocked out in the eleventh.
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This Fury fight has to be one of the worst title fights I've ever seen. Neither are any good.
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If Fury gets the decision he won't stay there long. Never seen a guy less interested in being in the ring.
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And christ on a bike Tyson Fury seems to have eaten 3 or 4 of his family members. He's proper fat.
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Fuck. Now that's a turnup.
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Hurrah, boxer wins a fight by trying to fight, while other guy loses by not fighting. A poor fight but I'm glad Parker won.
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What a terrible fight, glad I got on a periscope stream.
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Hurrah, boxer wins a fight by trying to fight, while other guy loses by not fighting. A poor fight but I'm glad Parker won.
Me too, people seemed genuinely shocked, but having watched the fight Fury did feck all to actually win a round. Walking backwards and forwards for 36 minutes should not be considered great boxing, he did everything to not get hit, which i get, but threw bugger all back himself, and when he did it was all to counter. Glad the judges saw through it. Difference between that and the Tyson win was Klitscho did not have any of the aggression Parker showed tonight in that fight.
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Hurrah, boxer wins a fight by trying to fight, while other guy loses by not fighting. A poor fight but I'm glad Parker won.
Me too, people seemed genuinely shocked, but having watched the fight Fury did feck all to actually win a round. Walking backwards and forwards for 36 minutes should not be considered great boxing, he did everything to not get hit, which i get, but threw bugger all back himself, and when he did it was all to counter. Glad the judges saw through it. Difference between that and the Tyson win was Klitscho did not have any of the aggression Parker showed tonight in that fight.
Haha, that tactic worked for Sven Ottke's entire career - with one small difference, he ran away for 12 rounds and got the typical German hometown decision. But anyway, I also agree and didn't think Fury did enough to win the title.
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It looks like we might get a couple of reasonably close fights tonight.
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Going to watch Anthony Crolla tomorrow, my first ever boxing match?
Anyone been before? Really looking forward to this.
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Going to watch Anthony Crolla tomorrow, my first ever boxing match?
Anyone been before? Really looking forward to this.
How close to the ring is your seat?
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Going to watch Anthony Crolla tomorrow, my first ever boxing match?
Anyone been before? Really looking forward to this.
How close to the ring is your seat?
Not very, I believe I'll be watching the screen above the ring!
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It's strange, as it always is to be watching something live that you usually only see on TV. It'll be brighter than you expect and a lot noisier. Sam Eggington's fighting so there'll be a bit of local interest. The one difference between live and watching on TV is that there's no gaps between the fights - a lot of the four rounders take place when the interviews and build-up are on so make sure you know the running order as a fight you fancy watching might be earlier than you expect.
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We're going in when the pretty much doors open so we can watch the whole thing, all my mates have been before so they'll lead the way in what time we go in etc. Apart from the main event I don't know any of the undercard so if theres any I should watch out for let me know? I take it its expensive inside the arena for beers and food?
I'm really looking forward to it, I watch a lot of boxing on the telly and it looks like a great atmosphere.h
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Enjoy your evening. I've always enjoyed watching it on the tv.
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Eggington looked poor, seemed to lack energy & ideas.
Young Benn has some power albeit early days...let’s hope he is the better of the sons of....
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The view from my seat was actually superb. I was expecting to have to watch the screens above the ring. The atmosphere wasn't as good as I thought it would be but overall it was a great experience. Sam Eggington wasn't great last night which was a bit of a let down, but Crolla boxed well.
Pretty much everyone in the arena were Yanited fans, having to listen U-N-I, T-E-D all night got tedious
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The way boxing encourages football supporters is getting tedious. One day there'll be a serious riot at a show and who'da thought it?
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If they set up the pride of Manchester fight between crolla (united) and Flanagan (city) there will be serious disorder. There was bits and bobs kicking off in the stands tonight.
God help Birmingham if a villa fan starts coming through
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I was ringside for Hatton v Tszyu and that was great. I was sat next to Amir Khan''s Dad. Sam Allardyce was shitfaced in the bar beforehand.
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I sat three rows back when Clinton Woods won at Sheffield Arena, sat in the gods for Hatton at the same venue and Kell Brook was somewhere in between. I've enjoyed it each time, though there is something about being up close, you can really hear the force of punches land. God knows how they take the punishment to be fair.
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Bellotti v Cunningham has started well.
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And ended even better.
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I sat three rows back when Clinton Woods won at Sheffield Arena, sat in the gods for Hatton at the same venue and Kell Brook was somewhere in between. I've enjoyed it each time, though there is something about being up close, you can really hear the force of punches land. God knows how they take the punishment to be fair.
We sat about 6 rows back when Calzaghe fought Peter Manfredo Jr at the Millennium.To be fair, the whole thing was really a trial run for him fighting Kessler the next year, but as you say you really get a different experience being that close.
We sat up in the stands for the Kessler fight, and to be honest we'd have been better off watching at home.
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John Ryder with a contender for KO of the year.
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kevin McCauley gets his 14th win. He's only lost 154.
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And Jamie Cox becomes Percy's favourite boxer ever.
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The news from Walsall on Saturday night was absolutely dreadful and at the same time, sadly inevitable.
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kevin McCauley gets his 14th win. He's only lost 154.
Incredible record. I started to count how many fights he'd lost or drawn in his longest winless streak, but got bored at 60 and gave up.
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Wasn't sure whether to pay to see the Joshua fight and now he's got a change of opponent, even less sure.
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Wasn't sure whether to pay to see the Joshua fight and now he's got a change of opponent, even less sure.
It isn't PPV....free on Sky Sports
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Wasn't sure whether to pay to see the Joshua fight and now he's got a change of opponent, even less sure.
It isn't PPV....free on Sky Sports
Apparently the Pulev fight was £19.95 on Sky Sports Box Office so can only presume the Takam fight is not free on Sky Sports?
edit:
Joshua vs Takes is still full price on Sky Sports Box Office:
http://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/34641/11068101/joshua-vs-takam-all-the-timings-pricing-and-ways-to-book-the-world-heavyweight-title-event
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Thirty seconds into the David Haye promotion and I want to silence the presenter.
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I would sometimes like to silence David Haye!
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Joyce didn't impress me much.
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Joyce didn't impress me much.
Me neither. A Joshua-level prospect would have won inside four.
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Indeed, I thought he seemed to lack snap in his punches and he also seemed to get caught far too easily.
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Coming out to I Predict a Riot the week after someone was killed at a boxing promotion. Stay classy, Leeds.
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Kal looks well on the way to winning easily.
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I don't know what it is, but Dillian Whyte just seems to flatter to deceive really. He was more than comfortable but never really looked like stopping Helenius. Thought Katie Taylor was excellent and is just such a bundle of energy.
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Nasty bang to the nose for Joshua from Takam’s head.
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I’ve never seen somebody the size of Takam move around so much.
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I’ve never seen somebody the size of Takam move around so much.
To be fair to him he is one tough customer.
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Slightly questionable stoppage but Takam was way behind in the fight.
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I’ve never seen somebody the size of Takam move around so much.
To be fair to him he is one tough customer.
A right double hard bastard.
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After consulting the doctor twice the ref was just waiting for the first time that he thought Takan didn’t see a shot coming at him. Surprised the doc waved it on the second time to be fair.
AJ looked a bit laboured after he got the busted nose but you wonder if he was too big?
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After consulting the doctor twice the ref was just waiting for the first time that he thought Takan didn’t see a shot coming at him. Surprised the doc waved it on the second time to be fair.
AJ looked a bit laboured after he got the busted nose but you wonder if he was too big?
Just looked like he was strugglign with his breathing for me, had his mouth open a lot which he doesn't normally do, I wouldn't be looking much beyond the broken nose to explain that though.
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After consulting the doctor twice the ref was just waiting for the first time that he thought Takan didn’t see a shot coming at him. Surprised the doc waved it on the second time to be fair.
AJ looked a bit laboured after he got the busted nose but you wonder if he was too big?
I wondered that. Seemed like it was an issue against Klitschko. but then he went and got even bigger. I suppose though, his original intended opponent was much bigger than Takam.
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I think the view is he put on a lot of bulk in a short space of time to take on Takem. That would have had an impact.
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This is a good piece about the recent problems at shows.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/oct/28/anthony-joshua-carlos-takam-cardiff
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After consulting the doctor twice the ref was just waiting for the first time that he thought Takan didn’t see a shot coming at him. Surprised the doc waved it on the second time to be fair.
AJ looked a bit laboured after he got the busted nose but you wonder if he was too big?
Takam was better than he thought, I suspect. Also must be difficult to be fighting a late sub who has nothing to lose and is probably taking part in his biggest career fight. Joshua never looked like losing
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Who's watching what?
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Who's watching what?
I'm watching the Boxnation bill, cracking scrap between Leather and Foot. If Foot doesn't win only got himself to blame...docked 2 points ..madness.
Recording Josh Taylor to watch later.
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Who's watching what?
I'm watching the Boxnation bill, cracking scrap between Leather and Foot. If Foot doesn't win only got himself to blame...docked 2 points ..madness.
Recording Josh Taylor to watch later.
And Leather gets it.
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Who's watching what?
I'm watching the Boxnation bill, cracking scrap between Leather and Foot. If Foot doesn't win only got himself to blame...docked 2 points ..madness.
Recording Josh Taylor to watch later.
I watched the Taylor fight in the hope that it would be over before the battle of the Liams.
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Anyone watching?
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Anyone watching?
Frampton? After a bright start, it's getting a bit ropey now.
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I see David Haye has pulled out of Bellew fight...torn bicep or something like.
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Biggirlsblouseitis.
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I see David Haye has pulled out of Bellew fight...torn bicep or something like.
Isn't that the fifth time he's pulled out of a fight with injury?
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Bellew Haye rematch rescheduled for 5 May
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Heavyweight Daniel Dubois, once again very impressive, his fight against Dorian Darch, stopped in the 2nd round after he had put down Darch 4 times. Apparently when Joshua fought Darch, he was unable to floor him once. Frank Warren has claimed Dubois hits harder than Joshua.
At only 20 years old looks a great prospect.
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Lee Selby did the job without tearing up any trees and DeGale is doing much the same so far.
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And now it's getting interesting.
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Lee Selby did the job without tearing up any trees and DeGale is doing much the same so far.
And DeGale now looking in real trouble.
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Truax is still 11/10.
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Truax is still 11/10.
Well, the cynic says as long as DeGale lasts the 12, it's Frank Warren, home town fight ....
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Now there's an upset.
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Joshua Buatsi looks like a talent to follow