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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: cdbearsfan on August 31, 2016, 01:12:26 PM
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Signed from Middlesbrough. No idea of fee, but there is a picture of him in a Villa shirt on Dr X's Twitter page.
Welcome, Al!
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Seems like he's signed now. It's great to have a bit of pace in our attack now, teams won't be able to press us as much. Welcome Albert.
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Delete please out of date!
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Great to have genuine pace in our attack now. Teams won't be able to press us like they have been anymore. Welcome Albert.
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You snooze you lose, Paul!
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Albert.
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Welcome Bert! :)
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I Wand£r what turn£d th£ d£al round..
Welcome - great to have pace up front now - looking forward to stretching teams again and keeping them back a bit. We have in effect 2 - 3 quick outlets now instead of just Gabby.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CrL7b2SUMAAXzJ8.jpg:large)
Is that a real person or a mannequin ?
Probably just looks weird because Bert's looking an whoever is taking the official pic
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Does he get in the ghana squad regularly? Just thinking about ACN.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CrL7b2SUMAAXzJ8.jpg:large)
Is that a real person or a mannequin ?
Probably just looks weird because Bert's looking an whoever is taking the official pic
I can't tell if he's been asked to pose as if he's picked the ball up from the opposition net and is walking back to the centre wearing a Bacuna/Gabby smile seeing as the score is now 7-1, or if he's wearing a Bacuna/Gabby smile having picked the ball up from our net and the score is now 7-1
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Best first name for a player since Pongo*?
* I know he was called Tom, but quiet you.
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Does he get in the ghana squad regularly? Just thinking about ACN.
Doesn't look like he does
Last game was against Canadia in Oct 2015, when it appears Ghana called up a few non-regulars
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Does he get in the ghana squad regularly? Just thinking about ACN.
Doesn't look like he does
Last game was against Canadia in Oct 2015, when it appears Ghana called up a few non-regulars
Who won, Canadia or Ghanaia?
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Boro saying deal not yet done according to Sky??
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Despite Tony Xia tweeting the below, Middlesbrough are categorically saying the deal to take Albert Adomah to Aston Villa is not done.
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His Bristol City youtube montage looks pretty tasty.
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Would be hilarious if they pulled the plug now
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Boro saying deal not yet done according to Sky??
Maybe it is a mannequin!
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Despite Tony Xia tweeting the below, Middlesbrough are categorically saying the deal to take Albert Adomah to Aston Villa is not done.
best take that shirt off :-\
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we have one decent (well expensive) AM player too many. That should create some competition amongst the 4 (this chap, grealish, ayew and McCormack) and give us options from the bench.
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Yeh nothing on Middlesbrough FC twitter feed yet... maybe they've mislaid Villas cheque?
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Boro saying deal not yet done according to Sky??
Maybe it is a mannequin!
Wir sind Schaufensterpuppen
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The Dr will be on Twitter calling them twats before long
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The Dr will be on Twitter calling them twats before long
Brilliant!! Dr Tony takes no shit from anyone!!😂
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The Dr will be on Twitter calling them twats before long
I've always loved the name Smog Monsters when referring to that lot.
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Not on our own website yet!!
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Hopefully we won't be so wasteful now and can try to stop fucking up for a change
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Not on our own website yet!!
It will be on our website tomorrow at some point. They are the last to find out.
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Boro forum seem to think that the fee is between £6-8m. All seem to think that it's a good price to get for him, but all seem very happy with what he has done for them and see him as an integral part of them going up.
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Has he signed or not?
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The Doctor seems to think so
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In the shirt on the pitch holding signed documents confirming transaction between clubs.
Or FITCI.
Fuck it tone confirmed it
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If he hasn't officially signed yet, is it because Boro want Traore going the other way confirmed as part of the deal?
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Just some i's to be dotted according to the Beeb twitter thing.
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Ha that's quite funny
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I'll posponse my welcome
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Now official.
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Just confirmed on twitter.
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It's on SSN.
A winger hallelujah!!!
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Is he a winger or a striker? I was watching his highlights on YouTube (I know) and he seems to score a few playing through the middle.
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he's here...
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UTV
The Doc
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Welcome Albert to the best club in the world Aston Villa FC.
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Well said Darren.
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I'm more excited by this signing than either Kodjia or McCormack.
Strikers at this level should be scoring plenty of goals, Gestede scored 20 not so long ago but we barely have any wide players in the squad and Adomah brings pace and unpredictability to things.
Looking at his stats, he's also scored 31 goals over last 4 seasons in championship, imagine that a midfield player who actually chips in with 6-7 goals a season.
Think it's another very good deal from the club...we just need to win some games now!
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Not a very inspiring stretch.
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All hail Prince Albert
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Welcome Albert
Get us off our seats mate when you get the ball
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Welcome Berty
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Ohh Albert A-do-mah!
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Yay - a new winger! Triffick. :)
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All hail Prince Albert
Let's hope he pierces a few defences.
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All hail Prince Albert
Let's hope he pierces a few defences.
He'll run rings round them.
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Welcome Albert. Some pace in the side at last. I wonder if having him will cheer Ayew up!
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I still would love to see a solid CM and another CB added but Adomah gives us attacking intent inside and down the left. When does the loan window close for the Championship?
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I still would love to see a solid CM and another CB added but Adomah gives us attacking intent inside and down the left. When does the loan window close for the Championship?
Today
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Welcome Albert. Some pace in the side at last. I wonder if having him will cheer Ayew up!
We've gone from clearing out a load of French speaking players and replacing them with another group of French speaking players. I hope it's a plan to force Richards out.
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Welcome Albert. Some pace in the side at last. I wonder if having him will cheer Ayew up!
We've gone from clearing out a load of French speaking players and replacing them with another group of French speaking players. I hope it's a plan to force Richards out.
Let's cancel the Christmas do now and hopefully that will be the straw that breaks the camels back.
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Looks a good player. The last two signings should see our attack click into place a little more. I think we've now got the squad in place to not only go up, but stay up too. I just hope we can get these players gelling quickly and then cope with the African Cup next year.
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Looks a good player. The last two signings should see our attack click into place a little more. I think we've now got the squad in place to not only go up, but stay up too. I just hope we can get these players gelling quickly and then cope with the African Cup next year.
Currently we'll probably only lose Ayew. Maybe Gestede, but it's a flip of a coin as to whether they qualify.
If we lose Adomah and / or Kodjia, they must have done brilliantly for us as they're probably not going to be selected as things stand.
So bring it on I say.
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Looks a good player. The last two signings should see our attack click into place a little more. I think we've now got the squad in place to not only go up, but stay up too. I just hope we can get these players gelling quickly and then cope with the African Cup next year.
Currently we'll probably only lose Ayew. Maybe Gestede, but it's a flip of a coin as to whether they qualify.
If we lose Adomah and / or Kodjia, they must have done brilliantly for us as they're probably not going to be selected as things stand.
So bring it on I say.
Hopefully. Granted I'm thinking of worst case scenario but saying that, if ever there was a worst case nightmare come true, we experienced it last season.
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Isn't Adomah a regular in the Ghana squad?
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Isn't Adomah a regular in the Ghana squad?
Not been called up since last year, and that was when Ghana picked a squad of fringe players.
So if he's good enough for us to get back into it, then great.
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What is concerning me is if Adomah doesn't hit the kind of form that will endear him to the Villa support.
I can imagine the headline in the local rag.
Lions 'ate our Albert.
Holloway will probably make a record of it!
PS Unless you are over 50 you probably won't get that.
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What is concerning me is if Adomah doesn't hit the kind of form that will endear him to the Villa support.
I can imagine the headline in the local rag.
Lions 'ate our Albert.
Holloway will probably make a record of it!
PS Unless you are over 50 you probably won't get that.
I get it and well done...giving away my precocious infancy
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I love a proper winger, so really pleased we have bought one. They are meant to frustrate and annoy and thrill and baffle. That is the point of a winger. A predictable winger is useless! Get him in. I really hope for Tony's sake we click into gear and get a run of form going. After the spending if we go up the bloke is going to be adored by the fans.
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What is concerning me is if Adomah doesn't hit the kind of form that will endear him to the Villa support.
I can imagine the headline in the local rag.
Lions 'ate our Albert.
Holloway will probably make a record of it!
PS Unless you are over 50 you probably won't get that.
I get it!
Nice one Ron!
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'A PHENOMENAL SIGNING'
Don Goodman has run his eye over a couple of the big Football League transfers.
On Albert Adomah joining Aston Villa:
This is a phenomenal signing. I have been very impressed. I was a little bit concerned about Aston Villa and the signings that they hadn’t made, but they’ve been very, very busy over the last couple of weeks and Albert Adomah typifies the profile of the signings Aston Villa – and Newcastle for that matter – have been making in this window. You need someone who has had success at this level and he’s certainly got that.
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He's played a big part in middlesbroughs promotion with a goal against Derby in a big game and constantly creating space for strikers - think he'll be brilliant if he can click with McCormick and Kodjia. I'm on my phone and can't alter McCormack!
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Two footed and has an eye for goal. Quick too. Pleased with this signing.
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Welcome Albert. Some pace in the side at last. I wonder if having him will cheer Ayew up!
A whinger and a winger together on the pitch.
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One for our historians. Who was the last Albert to wear the best football shirt in the world?
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Does he get in the ghana squad regularly? Just thinking about ACN.
Doesn't look like he does
Last game was against Canadia in Oct 2015, when it appears Ghana called up a few non-regulars
Who won, Canadia or Ghanaia?
It makes sense that Canadians would could from a place called Canadia
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One for our historians. Who was the last Albert to wear the best football shirt in the world?
Easy, my 8 year old is called Albert and he wore the best football shirt in the world today
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That's great John. Was he playing or just posing?
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One for our historians. Who was the last Albert to wear the best football shirt in the world?
Albert Hall?
Yes we did actually have a player named Albert Hall
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Albert, pronounced 'Al bear'.
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Not only does he look talented, he also seems to be a bit of a character. I think he's going to be good to have on the pitch and in the dressing room. The bits with the cheerleaders made me laugh.
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The man with the same initials, Albert Allen had an spectacular but short footballing career.
45 appearances 30 goals.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Allen
http://www.englandfootballonline.com/TeamPlyrsBios/PlayersA/BioAllenAl.html
Sitting on the front row second from left:
(http://www.astonbrook-through-astonmanor.co.uk/images/astonvilla_7.jpg)
There's more moustaches in this photo than you get down at Missing on Freddie Mercury Night.
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Albert Allen played one game for England, and scored three goals.
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That's great John. Was he playing or just posing?
Both,
he gets a bit embarrassed wearing it to be honest, mainly because the only Villa team he's ever known have been dog shit, hopefully that will change
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Albert Tatlock! Albert Tatlock!
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Albert, pronounced 'Al bear'.
On the basis that the bloke's from Lambeth, it should really be Albert (as in Tatlock)
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Uh-oh, thinking alike with Mr Shin. I need help
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Not only does he look talented, he also seems to be a bit of a character. I think he's going to be good to have on the pitch and in the dressing room. The bits with the cheerleaders made me laugh.
Ooh I like the look of him - I think he will be the key to unlock McCormack
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He does appear to be a bit of a character. All the signings appear to have something about them in that sense.
Whilst they might not be as technically gifted as last year's signings the collective desire and strength of personality of the new lot will hopefully bring out the best in the other players. I certainly can't see the rot of previous years being allowed to exist.
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He does appear to be a bit of a character. All the signings appear to have something about them in that sense.
Whilst they might not be as technically gifted as last year's signings the collective desire and strength of personality of the new lot will hopefully bring out the best in the other players. I certainly can't see the rot of previous years being allowed to exist.
I'm hoping they are more technically gifted than last year's signings, else we could be in more trouble.
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He does appear to be a bit of a character. All the signings appear to have something about them in that sense.
Whilst they might not be as technically gifted as last year's signings the collective desire and strength of personality of the new lot will hopefully bring out the best in the other players. I certainly can't see the rot of previous years being allowed to exist.
I'm hoping they are more technically gifted than last year's signings, else we could be in more trouble.
You're probably thinking of Richards and Lescott and you're right there. But I agree that the likes of Adama, Veretout, Gil were technically gifted if ultimately useless.
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He does appear to be a bit of a character. All the signings appear to have something about them in that sense.
Whilst they might not be as technically gifted as last year's signings the collective desire and strength of personality of the new lot will hopefully bring out the best in the other players. I certainly can't see the rot of previous years being allowed to exist.
I'm hoping they are more technically gifted than last year's signings, else we could be in more trouble.
You're probably thinking of Richards and Lescott and you're right there. But I agree that the likes of Adama, Veretout, Gil were technically gifted if ultimately useless.
Even Richard and Lescott's limited skills could have been accommodated if they were pulling in the right direction but they appeared to put themselves before the team and certainly the club.
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I can’t seem to quote at the minute (computer problems).
Anyway, to answer olaftab’s query as to who was the last Albert to play for us.
The last Albert is this chap:
(http://i.imgur.com/4JCwDQT.png)
Albert Vinall (with AV for initials!)
Now then, there’s a nice little story. Albert Vinall born and bred in Birmingham, somehow got on the books of Southampton. He didn’t make much of a splash on the south coast, returned to Birmingham and got a regular job thinking his chance to make it in the football league had come and gone. However, whilst playing in the Birmingham Works League, he was spotted by our scouts and made his way to Villa Park. By the outbreak of war young Albert was playing for the ‘A’ side in the Birmingham Combination. When football resumed after the war, Albert was very much a reserve player. However, close to nine years after first signing for the club, he made his league debut at Charlton. Never a regular, Albert finished up with 18 first team appearances (12 in the league and cup) for close to 15 years association with the club.
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He has said that he's good friends with Ayew and also knows De laet very well. That must help him integrate.
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He has said that he's good friends with Ayew and also knows De laet very well. That must help him integrate.
I don't know, when Ayew is burnt at the stake for being the unpopular player of the week it might not make him feel too great.
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Don't worry, I predict it will be Gollini or bacuna next week
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If I were a Villa player I'd study Ayew and Bacuna and ensure my facial expression is at the exact halfway point between the two of them.
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If I were a Villa player I'd study Ayew and Bacuna and ensure my facial expression is at the exact halfway point between the two of them.
Isn't that gabby's resting expression?
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I already love Albert. Any player that says he couldn't sleep the night before signing for the Villa, he was so excited, is more than alright in my book.
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I already love Albert. Any player that says he couldn't sleep the night before signing for the Villa, he was so excited, is more than alright in my book.
More like him in the future.
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If I were a Villa player I'd study Ayew and Bacuna and ensure my facial expression is at the exact halfway point between the two of them.
I'm a big fan of Ayew's expression as it mirrors mine when watching us play for the last 5 or so years. God knows what Bacuna's expression will be like should we go on a good run.
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God knows what Bacuna's expression will be like should we go on a good run.
We'll probably never find out.
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That's the spirit.
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If I were a Villa player I'd study Ayew and Bacuna and ensure my facial expression is at the exact halfway point between the two of them.
Isn't that gabby's resting expression?
Agbonlahor has something other than a resting expression / position?
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If I were a Villa player I'd study Ayew and Bacuna and ensure my facial expression is at the exact halfway point between the two of them.
Isn't that gabby's resting expression?
Agbonlahor has something other than a resting expression / position?
You should see him after taking the stairs 2 at a time.
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Where was he today?
Not match fit? Shame as he was the one of the new signings I was most looking forward to, quick and has unpredictability which we need in our attack.
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He really has replaced Adama!
/boomtish
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He was definitely injured. And apparently I'm hearing that if he had started the game Adama would have been entitled to 'an appearance by proxy' bonus of £200k from Villa.
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He was definitely injured. And apparently I'm hearing that if he had started the game Adama would have been entitled to 'an appearance by proxy' bonus of £200k from Villa.
That's £200K per minute!
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I hope he's fit for Wednesday now
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He fucking better be. We don't play them again until March.
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'A PHENOMENAL SIGNING'
Don Goodman has run his eye over a couple of the big Football League transfers.
On Albert Adomah joining Aston Villa:
This is a phenomenal signing. I have been very impressed. I was a little bit concerned about Aston Villa and the signings that they hadn’t made, but they’ve been very, very busy over the last couple of weeks and Albert Adomah typifies the profile of the signings Aston Villa – and Newcastle for that matter – have been making in this window. You need someone who has had success at this level and he’s certainly got that.
Interesting to read such high praise. Unfortunate yesterday didn't have the midfield support or full back support and lot of his work done by himself. Have to say he's not too hot on corners and could have varied it. But far better than Westwood efforts. In that note would have preferred McCormack taking them adomah has height. Also ayew takes a great corner and against Newcastle toward the latter stages were lovely . Those are the types of corners like to see which McCormack could also take . Adomah is not one who gets that whip and verve on his dead ball
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I'd rather McCormack was in the box looking to pick up loose balls from corners. You want your goalscorers in goalscoring positions whenever possible.
Not impressed with Albert's corners yesterday though.
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Wolves won every header in there box from our set pieces.
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Ayew's our best set piece taker.
Really disappointed in Adomah so far, let's just hope he's settling in.
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Ayew's our best set piece taker.
Really disappointed in Adomah so far, let's just hope he's settling in.
He's like Cissokho in that his legs seem to be functioning completely independently of the rest of his body.
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Wolves won every header in there box from our set pieces.
However at their attacking set pieces they won nothing.
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Wolves won every header in there box from our set pieces.
However at their attacking set pieces they won nothing.
Apart from the one cleared off our line.
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Wolves won every header in there box from our set pieces.
However at their attacking set pieces they won nothing.
Apart from the one cleared off our line.
You mean that one where we defended very well. Yes we dealt with it.
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Wolves won every header in there box from our set pieces.
However at their attacking set pieces they won nothing.
Apart from the one cleared off our line.
You mean that one where we defended very well. Yes we dealt with it.
That wasn't your initial point though was it.
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I am with you that all of our attacking set pieces and long kicks forward they won but I stand by my original point.
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and i stand by my original point Adomah was our best player yesterday, with little support, he ran his socks off.
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and I agree but only for the first 20 minutes after that he was impersonating a drunken donkey all evening.
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Reminds me of Wanchope.
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We got him from Middlesbrough's reserves. On what we have seen so far it shows.
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He wasn't a reserve player for them.
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130 appearances in the league in 3 seasons is hardly a reserve.
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The guy has played what 4 times for us, Christ give some of these players a break.
Yes they/we aren't performing, but constant criticism isn't going to change that!
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So, according to the various threads, McCormack, Grealish, Jedinak, Adomah, Elphick are all shit? It's a good job we have a new Manager to sort them all out then isn't it? The only way is up.
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He's the only winger in the squad. Well him and Green. Just shows how imbalanced it is.
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I have been a bit unfair to Adomah in fact very unfair.I have been advocating a winger for months and was expecting wonders when we signed one.As Aston Villa fans I think sometimes we expect far too much of our players.
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.As Aston Villa fans I think sometimes we expect far too much of our players.
You mean like winning every now and again, being in top physical condition and showing a fighting spirit?
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I like wingers named Tony.
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Thought he played well Saturday certainly didn't give up out in a shift and kept going to the end.
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Couldn't fault him at all on Saturday especially as he got no help at all from Richards and had to try and do things all on his own.
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He tried hard on Saturday and did seem intent on trying to drive us forward - I think we need Gestede in the team to get the best out of him but then the question is what do you do with Kodjia, McCormack, Ayew and Grealish?
You can't play all of them - well you can but you simply get dicked, by Preston.
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He replaced Traore in the squad, he offered nothing really last season so Adamoah cant be any worse.
Think he will be a solid player for us, got on the ball a lot on Saturday, delivered some good set pieces and worked hard.
Doesnt appear to be one with silky skills but then again those that do arent delivering much for us
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He also clearly is prepared to scrap for the ball in both our half and there's. That's a lot more than some others offer us. I would have had him as just about man of the match on Saturday.
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I thought he did ok Saturday . at least he had a go . I think he will be a good player for us
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I thought he had a reasonable performance which will improve as he plays more matches in his rightful position. With a better support behind him than he got on Saturday he will get better. I thought he did chase back on occasions which will also improve as Bruce gets the team ethic into the players.
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I think he'll be fine. He wasn't the problem Saturday it was the centre mid.
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A lot of times he attacked with the ball he didn't have any support at all. On one occasion he got to the edge of the Wolves box and there were 5 Wolves players and 1 Villa player around/in the box.
I thought he did okay, but he needs support from other midfield players.
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He had a storming first half, didn't see him in the second half.
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A lot of times he attacked with the ball he didn't have any support at all. On one occasion he got to the edge of the Wolves box and there were 5 Wolves players and 1 Villa player around/in the box.
I thought he did okay, but he needs support from other midfield players.
This with bells on. The support for our forward players is ridiculous, we should fit devices to the players that give out voltage shocks to get them up the fucking pitch.
I'm not even joking there, I mean it.
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A lot of times he attacked with the ball he didn't have any support at all. On one occasion he got to the edge of the Wolves box and there were 5 Wolves players and 1 Villa player around/in the box.
I thought he did okay, but he needs support from other midfield players.
This with bells on. The support for our forward players is ridiculous, we should fit devices to the players that give out voltage shocks to get them up the fucking pitch.
I'm not even joking there, I mean it.
Fans with cattleprods chasing the midfielders around would add some entertainment to our dour matches.
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Much more involved at Reading by all accounts. For a lot of the game he was one of the few Villa players mentioned by the commentators on Radio Berkshire. That might be because they didn't know who most of our players were when in possession though.
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He was the most involved player in the highlights
In a good way
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He was the most involved player in the highlights
In a good way
I like his decision making for the first goal, showed awareness, something that sticks out in our team.
He'll be a good player for us.
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He had a storming first half, didn't see him in the second half.
To be fair, he had about four or five long runs with the ball in a really short space time in the first half on Saturday and looked shattered after. He didn't really recover after that!
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Albert Adomah facing a late fitness test tomorrow. I wonder what will happen.
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Albert Adomah facing a late fitness test tomorrow. I wonder what will happen.
It doesn't exist?
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It does, it does....Wheatsheaf Car Park?!
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I think he'll be fine. He wasn't the problem Saturday it was the centre mid.
most definitely on the money.
Adomeh was imo motm
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I think he'll be fine. He wasn't the problem Saturday it was the centre mid.
most definitely on the money.
Adomeh was imo motm
Are you saying that with a mouthful of cotton wool?
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How much did he cost ? £ 3 mill?
Very very impressive once again on Friday. Work rate is excellent sometimes could release ball quicker and interesting set piece taker. Provided the assist and think he ll be chipping in witj goals soon too. Anothet man of match performance. I think he's not currently Ghana player so could be spares during the African nations and still be in uk playing club football
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Think it was closer to double that amount but if he's as involved and dangerous as at Brighton for the rest of the season he'll be worth it. I think he'll step-up even more in January when we're missing a few of the African attackers (not reversers), as he's unlikely to be involved out there.
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I thought it was a straight swap for traore?
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I thought it was a straight swap for traore?
No separate deals.
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In terms of practical use, I think we've mugged them.
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In terms of practical use, I think we've mugged them.
I agree. Traore has the speed of Bolt but the positional sense and crossing ability of Tonev.
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His birthday video amused me when I watched it.
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Along with Chester and Kodjia have been most impressive with signings from summer window. Adomah always puts a shift in and good value in work ethic despite often being subbed and risk of rotations. What I like to see more of is more support around him when he's attacking. Last match against Leeds he did some outrageous skillz beating players and running with ball. I think I'm not alone in enjoying his efforts especially as he prepared to run with ball And dribble. Keep going Albie make that right side your own! Good stuff
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So, I've been underwhelmed by him recently. He is obviously a decent player but I want to see him be more direct and get to the byeline more often. Like Grealish and others, I wonder whether he has the speed of thought to accompany his skill.
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I thought he tracked back really well last week and is a guaranteed starter for me.
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So, I've been underwhelmed by him recently. He is obviously a decent player but I want to see him be more direct and get to the byeline more often. Like Grealish and others, I wonder whether he has the speed of thought to accompany his skill.
Ive thought the same, overall he does fairly well i just think he lacks that burst of pace to get in behind hence we end up going sideways
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So, I've been underwhelmed by him recently. He is obviously a decent player but I want to see him be more direct and get to the byeline more often. Like Grealish and others, I wonder whether he has the speed of thought to accompany his skill.
Ive thought the same, overall he does fairly well i just think he lacks that burst of pace to get in behind hence we end up going sideways
he is a yard of pace short of a decent winger.
Mid table division 2 is his level.
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sadly the more I see of him the more I'm reminded of N'zogbia not attitude wise just playing style, i.e. running straight into the player in front of him,
hope I'm wrong but I'm not convinced
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sadly the more I see of him the more I'm reminded of N'zogbia not attitude wise just playing style, i.e. running straight into the player in front of him,
hope I'm wrong but I'm not convinced
I've never really been a fan of his. I think he tries to do too much but sadly his control of the ball isn't up to scratch and he invariably loses possession. I don't rate him at all.
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He gets worse with every game, but then again so does everyone else.
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He's decent enough and seems to put effort in but ultimately lacks any real quality.
It's no disgrace for him to have plied his trade in the second rank, but this is his level - it's as simple as that.
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Adomah runs out of ides when he has gone past one and a half opponents. Simple. Not good enough. Not a winger, not a midfielder, not a defender, not a runner, not a passer, not a goal scoring machine. Worthless other than as a position-filler
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Adomah runs out of ides when he has gone past one and a half opponents. Simple. Not good enough. Not a winger, not a midfielder, not a defender, not a runner, not a passer, not a goal scoring machine. Worthless other than as a position-filler
And also leads our squad with assists. I don't think he's prem quality, but he's creating chances and goals where Grealish, Ayew and McCormack (as well as any other midfielders) seem to be failing at.
I think he's a nailed on starter, every game more than a position filler. And I don't actually think he's that great, I think it's more about the state of our squad and the woeful underachievement of our (supposed) better players.
He links well with Kodjia too, so I think he's also suffered with JK's absence.
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My goodness ! If he's the leading provider, it really says a lot about our deficiencies, surely. ( I take it that does not include penalties given away by opposition Grealish-bashers !)
If Grealish really sees himself as the latter day Little or Cowans, he should be the one with that stat behind his name.
And the sooner he is, the better. Otherwise we should recognise he is just a flashy kid who got a lucky break when there was no-one else turned up with their boots !
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My goodness ! If he's the leading provider, it really says a lot about our deficiencies, surely. ( I take it that does not include penalties given away by opposition Grealish-bashers !)
If Grealish really sees himself as the latter day Little or Cowans, he should be the one with that stat behind his name.
And the sooner he is, the better. Otherwise we should recognise he is just a flashy kid who got a lucky break when there was no-one else turned up with their boots !
Grealish's main fault is really that he's not pulling his finger out and knuckling down. He's coasting and it's a pain in the backside really. Some people say he'll end up being the next Hendrie, but frankly that would be a massive achievement in comparison to where he's currently heading. For all his faults, Hendrie still played 300 odd games for us and scored a fair few (in the top flight too). Grealish is a million miles from the perma-tanned one right now. In fact he's the one winding me up more than anyone else this season, because he really should be pissing this league. Gabby's done in, we know that. Ross M is 30 and showing why he's never been in the top flight. Ayew's got one eye on the exit door, but Grealish doesn't have too many excuses left, and at his age should really be hitting his stride. He's the sort of kid that you see that you feel like just needs to walk into the wrong pub thinking he's King Dick and get a bit of a light trouncing. Just a mild kicking. Enough to bring him back down to earth, but still allowing him back for the next game. Some people just need knocking out. Lets be honest, and he's one of them. He strikes me as a bit of an Oik.
:p
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Yep, oiks that just need a kicking are well known for doing the amount of charity work that Grealish does.
I've said this a few times, the biggest problem Grealish has is that he's not quick enough to pick it up in our half and beat a couple of players to create a break, that's just not his game. To get something out of him we need to get him playing much higher up the pitch but even then we can't just shove him up front and carry on as we are because that's when he gets kicked to ribbons. get the entire team 10-15 yards up the pitch as a unit and we'll see much more from ayew, kodjia, grealish and RM because beating one man will then be enough to create an opening. Beating a man on halfway does nothing other than create a pocket of space for someone else and if no one is taking advantage of that space it's a waste of time.
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Grealish is a fine player who just needs to move the ball more quickly, then he won't be caught in possession so often.
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Sherwood is the only manager to get a proper tune out of Grealish so far,
I know he had a couple of better players around him at the time but even so he really had him firing
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Grealish is a fine player who just needs to move the ball more quickly, then he won't be caught in possession so often.
But as has been said he's not a Ryan Giggs. He needs to be played in a drifitng position between midfield and the forwards so he can pick the right pass or drive into the box committing defenders. Until we can get the right players around him he'll be doing his best work 40 yards from goals. Its easier to try and kick Grealish outside the box than in. It's not Bruce's fault either, He hasn't got the runners from midfield that can push him further upfield.
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Sherwood is the only manager to get a proper tune out of Grealish so far,
I know he had a couple of better players around him at the time but even so he really had him firing
That period at the end of that season is the only time that Grealish has been played as a 10 with the freedom to drift and with players getting around him and he looked worthy of all the hype.
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Grealish is a fine player who just needs to move the ball more quickly, then he won't be caught in possession so often.
An average one I would say. If he is a fine player as you suggest how come his performces are generally nondescript? Albeit like the rest of his hopeless team mates. I agree he has potential but I dont think he has the desire
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Sherwood is the only manager to get a proper tune out of Grealish so far,
I know he had a couple of better players around him at the time but even so he really had him firing
That period at the end of that season is the only time that Grealish has been played as a 10 with the freedom to drift and with players getting around him and he looked worthy of all the hype.
Some of that was with Charles N'Zogbia next to him. What's he doing these days?
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Buying suits.
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8)
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Adomah runs out of ides when he has gone past one and a half opponents. Simple. Not good enough. Not a winger, not a midfielder, not a defender, not a runner, not a passer, not a goal scoring machine. Worthless other than as a position-filler
And also leads our squad with assists. I don't think he's prem quality, but he's creating chances and goals where Grealish, Ayew and McCormack (as well as any other midfielders) seem to be failing at.
I think he's a nailed on starter, every game more than a position filler. And I don't actually think he's that great, I think it's more about the state of our squad and the woeful underachievement of our (supposed) better players.
He links well with Kodjia too, so I think he's also suffered with JK's absence.
Agree super tom and I been saying he's been decent.
Bobby boy i think your critique was vastly misjudged at the time and now you can only Re assess him !
2 goals one the pen ! If he gets a hat trick then you may be convinced i guess!
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How much did he cost ? £ 3 mill?
Very very impressive once again on Friday. Work rate is excellent sometimes could release ball quicker and interesting set piece taker. Provided the assist and think he ll be chipping in witj goals soon too. Anothet man of match performance. I think he's not currently Ghana player so could be spares during the African nations and still be in uk playing club football
Go go adomah i always knew
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Evening.
Even footyskillz cannot get that worked up about an Adomah tap-in and a pen, surely !
This is incontravertable evidence we are two (at least) different contributors surely !
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I thought he played pretty well for the first hour and let's not forget that had he not scored twice we would have experienced the ignominy of losing twice to the mighty PNE
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What a pile of shit this guy is.
Does not beat a man
Poor heading ability
No pace
Crossing is shocking
Hope we kept the reciepr
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Runs with defenders, not past defenders not through defenders he runs with defenders. It's like watching strictly come dancing watching him.
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One pace, one trick but sometimes lucky enough to be in the right place to pick up from Hutton. Nothing special to offer as I said back in January. I stick by that assessment.
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Another team laughing all the way to the bank after over charging us
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Aint got the pace to be a decent winger
Also too many times he waits for the ball to get to him rather than moving too the ball
I wouldnt have him starting
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Apparently even Green had one or two dozy dreamy moments last night instead of running to make space or position for a pass. Are they coached in these fine arts at all??
Is too much taken for granted with this bunch ?
What does Albert have to practice daily to show improvement ? Brushing his teeth ? Shining his new boots ? Counting his money accurately ?
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Aint got the pace to be a decent winger
Also too many times he waits for the ball to get to him rather than moving too the ball
I wouldnt have him starting
Agree, average at best.
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One of our better players for me. We need to recognise that almost all the players we've signed in last two windows have underperformed, save for kodja (although he still gets stick). Why is this? Changing manager and various formations has not helped. This guy was a wing back off the bench on Saturday! Need to remember these players have done well elsewhere. It's about building a team anf confidence and that's down to Bruce.
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He is the one player that is providing assists though and has scored a few goals. I do think that he runs out of ideas in the last 20 minutes of games. However, you can work around that by essentially doing what Ranieri did last season with Okazaki and get the best out of him in 60 minutes.
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Doesn't he have six assists?
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Between Kodjia and Adomah they've contributed towards almost every goal we've scored. The problems lie elsewhere.
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Yes I agree.
Albert is hit and miss (and the premier league would be beyond him which is what Boro realised) but he has scored and assisted reasonably regularly this season.
He at least contributes unlike say an N'Zogbia.
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Hutton's brother from another mother.
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We've always had - and relied on, and succeeded with - pace.
In the positions he is expected to operate it is an essential prerequisite, surely.
For me he is the wrong player.....not the right player in a wrong position.
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You don't have to have out and out pace. But you do need to incisive and think quickly.
He takes an eternity to get a cross in - spends too long running around in circles trying to beat his man 3 times before shinning in out for a goal kick.
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His "end product" is awful
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He played regularly for a team that got promoted so, despite his short-comings, is obviously one of the better players in this league. Like the rest of our squad, a talented bunch (for this level) but has absolutely no idea who their teammates are
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thought he was really poor today apart from one tackle back after losing the ball in the first half. He lacks pace and generally fails to cross properly. (can't remember if it was him or not today who crossed for Green - the one which hit the post).
For me Bacuna is the best option wide right - obviously free from suspension that it.
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Without being too blunt today he was fucking shit
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Without being too blunt today he was fucking shit
Oh, mission accomplished.
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Come the summer we need at least 1 genuine pace option out wide. Last half hour we just dont have the pace to counter effectively.
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thought he was really poor today apart from one tackle back after losing the ball in the first half. He lacks pace and generally fails to cross properly. (can't remember if it was him or not today who crossed for Green - the one which hit the post).
For me Bacuna is the best option wide right - obviously free from suspension that it.
Cross from Bacuna and I agree with you. Albert was poor again today
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Adomah was pisspoor; a liability actually cos he gets in the way when in a defensive position. Yes, I like his enthusiasm but he really isn't very good. I'd have subbed him at halftime and put GG into central midfield.
But there you go: I'm not in the dugout making those decisions!
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He has completely lost form and everything he touches turns to shit at the moment. Hopefully he can play himself into form or at least get back to the threatening player from earlier in the season.
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Poor vs Derby. But he is an example of another player who strengths we arent playing to. He is a winger, passes should be played in front of him so he can run on to them and beat a man with his pace. Most of the time he gets the ball to his feet with his back to goal. And then looks crap.
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Against Derby he was a passenger, he added nothing of value to the team. I agree his form of late has dropped and as previously mentioned maybe because we are not playing to his strengths, but I have my doubts. Not sure if he will be starting next season, time will tell
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Not many of our players covered themselves in glory yesterday. The only thing that counted was appositive result and we got it.
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I can't think of too many piss poor performances yesterday. Not a great deal of quality on show, but I don't think anyone played particularly badly.
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seriously? our passing was atrocious, and Adomah and Kodjia were totally anonymous to name 2. No one likes the club more than me but sometimes you have to see things for what they are - not good enough at the moment.
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Like I've said, there wasn't a great deal of quality and I've said on the post match thread it wasn't great but I don't think anyone was appallingly bad. The two you've mentioned were probably the poorest but Kodjia was playing on his own and didn't get a great deal of service.
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Poor vs Derby. But he is an example of another player who strengths we arent playing to. He is a winger, passes should be played in front of him so he can run on to them and beat a man with his pace. Most of the time he gets the ball to his feet with his back to goal. And then looks crap.
but he doesn't move into the space. He doesn't offer the opportunity to play the ball in front of him.
I don't think he's very smart, in the football-instincts sort of way.
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He was doing that at the start of the season though.
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I've asked before....If he isn't a winger, isn't a defender and isn't a midfielder.......why play him ? Oh, yes. I am reminded he has made the final pass for a goal more times that any other Villa player. Luck, or good positional sense ...or at least willing to pass it ?
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Poor bloke, gets two and his thread isnt even bumped? :)
Looking at it again his run for his first was pretty damn great. Should get more credit, so here it is.
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I posted about about him yesterday on another thread because I couldn't find this one. His first goal on Saturday deserves more credit than it got, he showed awareness, got his head to the flick-on despite being mauled by the defender and was quicker to the ball for the finish. The focus was on goalkeeper error which there was, but Albert did well.
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I posted about about him yesterday on another thread because I couldn't find this one. His first goal on Saturday deserves more credit than it got, he showed awareness, got his head to the flick-on despite being mauled by the defender and was quicker to the ball for the finish. The focus was on goalkeeper error which there was, but Albert did well.
I agree Dave, I thought it was a very well taken goal which was largely down to Albert's determination.
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I've never understood the criticism he gets at times, he scores and creates on a regular basis and is one of the most effective player in this league. Of course he has spells of not doing much, he's 30 soon and this is the highest level he's ever played at, if he was more consistent he wouldn't be playing in division 2. Plus wingers tend to do that, even Morley, Walters, Daley etc would drift out of games for long spells.
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I've never understood the criticism he gets at times, he scores and creates on a regular basis and is one of the most effective player in this league. Of course he has spells of not doing much, he's 30 soon and this is the highest level he's ever played at, if he was more consistent he wouldn't be playing in division 2. Plus wingers tend to do that, even Morley, Walters, Daley etc would drift out of games for long spells.
I agree. I really do struggle to see what Bruce has seen in Bjarnason that led to him being picked over Adomah. Other than Bruce buying him of course.
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Showed sat much better on the left which is a pity as we need someone wide on the right
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He was second highest assist maker in a team that really struggled for goals last season
Good player at this level
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I really like him.
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I like him too, he's direct and creative.
Good player at this level.
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I also like him we have to play him from the start because he does the business for us he scores and creates.
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I think in the last couple of matches he has played with more confidence and directness, so yeah, play him from the start.
(I suggest this is influenced by the extra competition for his place this season)
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I think in the last couple of matches he has played with more confidence and directness, so yeah, play him from the start.
(I suggest this is influenced by the extra competition for his place this season)
Or is it playing with Davis?
Typo!
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I think in the last couple of matches he has played with more confidence and directness, so yeah, play him from the start.
(I suggest this is influenced by the extra competition for his place this season)
Or is it playing with Davis?
Typo!
Valid point!
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I think he was always fairly direct but last season I genuinely think he didn't trust Hutton behind him so he was working deeper than I was happy with given he was our main creative threat. Shifting to left and or playing in front of someone he's more confident in seems to have helped him a lot. If he plays a decent number of games I think he has 8-10 goals and assists in him for the season (as do Snodgrass and Hourihane) and if they can provide something like that it will take the pressure off the strikers, the quality is definitely there.
With the wingers/attacking midfielders we have we really should be looking at them providing 35-40 goals as a unit, if we can then get another 30 or so from the strikers and a handful from the defenders at set pieces then we'll be there or thereabout. Right now the midfield is 8 from 8 so they're doing their bit (unfortunately 6 of those came in 2 games) we need goals from the strikers now, and hopefully Kodjia will bring that.
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I think in the last couple of matches he has played with more confidence and directness, so yeah, play him from the start.
(I suggest this is influenced by the extra competition for his place this season)
I'm not sure about the last bit. I thought he was pretty decent last season as well.
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Albert.
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I like Albert. He works hard and seems a cheerful sort of bloke. He certainly gets some unfair stick at times.
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Definitely he left Taylor a bit exposed first half, but that would be the only criticism.
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He's not getting enough love
Best player on the pitch yday. I'm surprised at how well he's doing on the left. A real goal threat cutting in
He did set up a lot for Kodjia from the right last season tho, so I'd still like to see him alternate
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Albert.
My grandad used to perform this for us.
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NOW there's a player, playing with confidence, maybe he should take the training sessions.
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I agree Tony he seems to be playing with confidence and enjoying his football which is good to see.
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I like Albert. He works hard and seems a cheerful sort of bloke. He certainly gets some unfair stick at times.
His post match interview, MOTM Award was a delight. Stick or no stick, he's a far superior player than he was last season. Long may it continue.
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Adomah for Adama was a great bit of business.
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I like Albert. He works hard and seems a cheerful sort of bloke. He certainly gets some unfair stick at times.
His post match interview, MOTM Award was a delight. Stick or no stick, he's a far superior player than he was last season. Long may it continue.
I thought he was at best average last season. This one so far he has won me over. Keep it going Albert.
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Adomah for Adama was a great bit of business.
Good point. Adomoah is by far the better player right now. I love his work rate and his runs.
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I like Albert. He works hard and seems a cheerful sort of bloke. He certainly gets some unfair stick at times.
His post match interview, MOTM Award was a delight. Stick or no stick, he's a far superior player than he was last season. Long may it continue.
I thought he was at best average last season. This one so far he has won me over. Keep it going Albert.
He can't have been. He was second top assist maker in the division, for a side the struggled to create chances
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I like Albert. He works hard and seems a cheerful sort of bloke. He certainly gets some unfair stick at times.
His post match interview, MOTM Award was a delight. Stick or no stick, he's a far superior player than he was last season. Long may it continue.
I thought he was at best average last season. This one so far he has won me over. Keep it going Albert.
He can't have been. He was second top assist maker in the division, for a side the struggled to create chances
And that what brings him up to a level of average. Take away half the assists and we'd have another dud on our hands. Assists aside, I'm judging it on his ability and effort. Both of which have improved imesurably. I like him now.
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Love his effort and has shown some excellent finisher's instincts in last couple of games.
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He has been reborn as a left sided player.
Adomah had the intelligence to have moved the ball in the corner at least twice in injury time and showed a footballing brain. Plenty of players in the so called premiership that this goes right over their head.
At the moment and it is early days he reminds me of a Tommy Hutchison (used to play for Coventry and Man City for you younger ones). I am impressed but what will happen when the likes of Green return ready for action.
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I like Albert. He works hard and seems a cheerful sort of bloke. He certainly gets some unfair stick at times.
His post match interview, MOTM Award was a delight. Stick or no stick, he's a far superior player than he was last season. Long may it continue.
I thought he was at best average last season. This one so far he has won me over. Keep it going Albert.
He can't have been. He was second top assist maker in the division, for a side the struggled to create chances
Two words - Stewart Downing.
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He has been reborn as a left sided player.
Adomah had the intelligence to have moved the ball in the corner at least twice in injury time and showed a footballing brain. Plenty of players in the so called premiership that this goes right over their head.
At the moment and it is early days he reminds me of a Tommy Hutchison (used to play for Coventry and Man City for you younger ones). I am impressed but what will happen when the likes of Green return ready for action.
There's so many games in the Championship that I don't think it's a problem. If Green were fit right now, I would just move Adomah to the right and drop Snodgrass. If Snodgrass can find some form there would be a nice selection dilemma.
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I like Albert. He works hard and seems a cheerful sort of bloke. He certainly gets some unfair stick at times.
His post match interview, MOTM Award was a delight. Stick or no stick, he's a far superior player than he was last season. Long may it continue.
I thought he was at best average last season. This one so far he has won me over. Keep it going Albert.
He can't have been. He was second top assist maker in the division, for a side the struggled to create chances
Two words - Stewart Downing.
His name is always pronounced with a silent "c#nt" tho :)
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Bargain.
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Fantastic player for where we are.
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Adomah for Adama was a great bit of business.
I'm a fan of Adama, yet cannot argue with this.
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Languid genius.
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Thats it. I am getting his shirt. Last time I did that was Benteke.
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I'm thinking a song based on Radio Gaga by Queen.
On the wing it's Albert Adomah, Albert Adomah
I haven't got much further than that as I'm watching a Rick Stein programme about cooking mussels, I'll get back to it in a bit.....
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I'm thinking a song based on Radio Gaga by Queen.
On the wing it's Albert Adomah, Albert Adomah
I haven't got much further than that as I'm watching a Rick Stein programme about cooking mussels, I'll get back to it in a bit.....
All we need is Albert Adomah
Albert Adomah
Albert Adomah
Over & over again.
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I'm thinking a song based on Radio Gaga by Queen.
On the wing it's Albert Adomah, Albert Adomah
I haven't got much further than that as I'm watching a Rick Stein programme about cooking mussels, I'll get back to it in a bit.....
All we need is Albert Adomah
Albert Adomah
Albert Adomah
Over & over again.
Albert in claret and blue
He’s going to get past you
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Albert's running down the Villa wing
he's better than any previous thing
he scores for Villa which is fun
he has the opposition on the run
when he scores we go really mad
because Albert Adomah is the man
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Albert's running down the Villa wing
he's better than any previous thing
he scores for Villa which is fun
he has the opposition on the run
when he scores we go really mad
because Albert Adomah is the man
Wow, Darren: that's a long breath.
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Albert's running down the Villa wing
he's better than any previous thing
he scores for Villa which is fun
he has the opposition on the run
when he scores we go really mad
because Albert Adomah is the man
Excellent, except for the last line, which doesn't rhyme.
How about changing the final couplet to:
"When he scores we get really silly
Due to a recent controversy about racial stereotyping within football chants we're not going to speculate on the issue of the size of his willy"?
Could probably scan better, admittedly.
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Albert's running down the Villa wing
he's better than any previous thing
he scores for Villa which is fun
he has the opposition on the run
when he scores we go really mad
because Albert Adomah is the man
Like it, I'm guessing the same tune as Bomber by Motörhead?
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Albert's running down the Villa wing
he's better than any previous thing
he scores for Villa which is fun
he has the opposition on the run
when he scores we go really mad
because Albert Adomah is the man
Excellent, except for the last line, which doesn't rhyme.
How about changing the final couplet to:
"When he scores we get really silly
Due to a recent controversy about racial stereotyping within football chants we're not going to speculate on the issue of the size of his willy"?
Could probably scan better, admittedly.
I like it. If you sing it really fast like Billy Joel in We Didn’t Start the Fire it totally works.
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Albert's running down the Villa wing
he's better than any previous thing
he scores for Villa which is fun
he has the opposition on the run
when he scores we go really mad
because Albert Adomah is the man
Excellent, except for the last line, which doesn't rhyme.
How about changing the final couplet to:
"When he scores we get really silly
Due to a recent controversy about racial stereotyping within football chants we're not going to speculate on the issue of the size of his willy"?
Could probably scan better, admittedly.
Yes! And yes again to Risso's comment. They've made me chuckle.
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I'm thinking a song based on Radio Gaga by Queen.
On the wing it's Albert Adomah, Albert Adomah
I haven't got much further than that as I'm watching a Rick Stein programme about cooking mussels, I'll get back to it in a bit.....
All we need is Albert Adomah
Albert Adomah
Albert Adomah
Over & over again.
I'm pretty sure Bristol City fans had a Jonnie Kodjia version of this
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Am I the only person that thinks this lad is crap. He has no pace or skill. One of the reasons why we are so bad to watch.
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Am I the only person that thinks this lad is crap. He has no pace or skill. One of the reasons why we are so bad to watch.
He's arguably been our POTY so far....
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I used to think he was awful. That was last season. This season he's been generally good and sometimes very good. I didn't see Saturday's game so I'm assuming he was more last season than this.
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A bit up and down but has the knack of being involved in goals.
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I used to think he was awful. That was last season. This season he's been generally good and sometimes very good. I didn't see Saturday's game so I'm assuming he was more last season than this.
Everything he wasn’t doing last season he now does tackle, run with pace, shoot. Still can’t cross and the problem we have with him, grealish and green. They all look better on the left
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He's exactly the same as was last season.
He has a run of a few games when he scores a couple and creates something. You start to doubt yourself and think he might actually be quite good, but then your sanity is restored when he returns to his base level of performance which is abject.
His control is appalling. On Saturday I thought Sanchez was back when he gave the ball away under little pressure 4 times in a row. Later in the game he had time and space in the box and shinned it out for a goal kick. It's not like these are isolated instances. At Preston in the week he have at least 3 chances to kill the game off, either by scoring or creating chances and he messed up each of them.
I know there are some on here who cite the stats saying he's the most creative player in the team, but that misses the main point.
If he plays as an advanced midfielder (lets say like Son/Eriksen for Spurs) or an out and out winger, then his total contribution, i.e. goals + chances created are not enough to get us promoted.
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Bearing in mind he's been playing on the opposite side to where he normally does, I think he's been pretty good and one of our better players this season.
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Bearing in mind he's been playing on the opposite side to where he normally does, I think he's been pretty good and one of our better players this season.
He's had a hot streak, but there have been signs over the past couple of games that his form may be dipping a little. I would have liked to see him switched back over to the right at times during the last few games, but not to be.
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He's exactly the same as was last season.
He has a run of a few games when he scores a couple and creates something. You start to doubt yourself and think he might actually be quite good, but then your sanity is restored when he returns to his base level of performance which is abject.
His control is appalling. On Saturday I thought Sanchez was back when he gave the ball away under little pressure 4 times in a row. Later in the game he had time and space in the box and shinned it out for a goal kick. It's not like these are isolated instances. At Preston in the week he have at least 3 chances to kill the game off, either by scoring or creating chances and he messed up each of them.
I know there are some on here who cite the stats saying he's the most creative player in the team, but that misses the main point.
If he plays as an advanced midfielder (lets say like Son/Eriksen for Spurs) or an out and out winger, then his total contribution, i.e. goals + chances created are not enough to get us promoted.
He played every week for a Boro team that got automatic promotion just a couple of seasons ago. I doubt he's somehow a worse player now than he was back then, so I don't see how that fits with your theory.
Also, taking issue with the fact that a player like him has runs of good and bad games is like complaining that the local takeaway doesn't serve haute cuisine.
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It looks like his form in 13-14 with Middlesborough was something of an exceptional career high point.
In his (more or less ever present) 3 seasons before and 3 since his annus mirabalis he's managed 31 goals, i.e. averaged around 5 goals a season.
I agree that all players vary in form. The problem with him is that his that as his record shows, his 'base' level is totally underwhelming. Whatever got Middlesborough promoted in 15-16 (6 goals and 5 assists) doesn't seem to have been down to him in an attacking sense.
So all in all, I'd say a more detailed review of his record supports my theory perfectly.
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He's exactly the same as was last season.
He has a run of a few games when he scores a couple and creates something. You start to doubt yourself and think he might actually be quite good, but then your sanity is restored when he returns to his base level of performance which is abject.
His control is appalling. On Saturday I thought Sanchez was back when he gave the ball away under little pressure 4 times in a row. Later in the game he had time and space in the box and shinned it out for a goal kick. It's not like these are isolated instances. At Preston in the week he have at least 3 chances to kill the game off, either by scoring or creating chances and he messed up each of them.
I know there are some on here who cite the stats saying he's the most creative player in the team, but that misses the main point.
If he plays as an advanced midfielder (lets say like Son/Eriksen for Spurs) or an out and out winger, then his total contribution, i.e. goals + chances created are not enough to get us promoted.
He played every week for a Boro team that got automatic promotion just a couple of seasons ago. I doubt he's somehow a worse player now than he was back then, so I don't see how that fits with your theory.
Also, taking issue with the fact that a player like him has runs of good and bad games is like complaining that the local takeaway doesn't serve haute cuisine.
Ah, but the world and the league has changed since then.
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He was piss-poor on Saturday: he stood on the left touchline and offered no movement when the ball was coming out of defence. He didn't really beat his man at all, preferring to cut inside every time; very predictably.
Rather like Snodgrass, actually; both very ineffectual.
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He’s been better than snodgrass at least Albert looks like he cares. Snodgrass gives me the impression he’s to good for us and this league
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He was piss-poor on Saturday: he stood on the left touchline and offered no movement when the ball was coming out of defence. He didn't really beat his man at all, preferring to cut inside every time; very predictably.
Rather like Snodgrass, actually; both very ineffectual.
I don't think anyone could argue he wasn't crap on Saturday but generally he's been one of our better players this season and he's arguably playing out of position.
I find it pretty incredible that anyone is criticising our top goalscorer, despite him playing on the wing, on the wrong side of the pitch!
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Think he's been more influential than last season. Also chipping in with goals which is really important particularly as Hogan is next to useless in a Claret and Blue kit.
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It looks like his form in 13-14 with Middlesborough was something of an exceptional career high point.
In his (more or less ever present) 3 seasons before and 3 since his annus mirabalis he's managed 31 goals, i.e. averaged around 5 goals a season.
I agree that all players vary in form. The problem with him is that his that as his record shows, his 'base' level is totally underwhelming. Whatever got Middlesborough promoted in 15-16 (6 goals and 5 assists) doesn't seem to have been down to him in an attacking sense.
So all in all, I'd say a more detailed review of his record supports my theory perfectly.
You made it sound like having him play a key role in our attack would seriously hobble the team's ability to get promoted, which isn't the case based off past history.
If I've misconceived it and you're just saying that he's not quite good enough to be the major creative force in a promotion-worthy team, fair enough - but in that case, I'm not sure who that assessment wouldn't apply to outside of, say, the very best attacking players in the league, which then makes it harsh to just focus on Adomah.
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He was struggling to make our matchday squad at one point this season so has done well to force himself back into contention. He is a proven competent performer at this level, pacy, works hard and a decent supply of goals and assists. Arguably our more talented options for our wide positions (Green, Grealish, Snodgrass) need to prove themselves capable of the same or better for us to improve.
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He is our top scorer ffs.
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He has been our best attacking player this season, and did pretty well in terms of assists last season too. He should be one of the first names on the team sheet.
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We have Snodders on the right who is left footed and Albert in the left who is right footed. Everytime they beat a man they have to cut back to cross with their stronger foot. I know this is a tactic that works but what I would like to see more often is them switching flanks during the game. This throws the RB/LB more because they know if they get beaten on the stronger side they will cross and not cut back. Just a thought but it keeps the defence guessing.
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We have Snodders on the right who is left footed and Albert in the left who is right footed. Everytime they beat a man they have to cut back to cross with their stronger foot. I know this is a tactic that works but what I would like to see more often is them switching flanks during the game. This throws the RB/LB more because they know if they get beaten on the stronger side they will cross and not cut back. Just a thought but it keeps the defence guessing.
You are suggesting game management and tactics - right?
Move on - not going to happen
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We have Snodders on the right who is left footed and Albert in the left who is right footed. Everytime they beat a man they have to cut back to cross with their stronger foot. I know this is a tactic that works but what I would like to see more often is them switching flanks during the game. This throws the RB/LB more because they know if they get beaten on the stronger side they will cross and not cut back. Just a thought but it keeps the defence guessing.
You radical madman !
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It looks like his form in 13-14 with Middlesborough was something of an exceptional career high point.
In his (more or less ever present) 3 seasons before and 3 since his annus mirabalis he's managed 31 goals, i.e. averaged around 5 goals a season.
I agree that all players vary in form. The problem with him is that his that as his record shows, his 'base' level is totally underwhelming. Whatever got Middlesborough promoted in 15-16 (6 goals and 5 assists) doesn't seem to have been down to him in an attacking sense.
So all in all, I'd say a more detailed review of his record supports my theory perfectly.
You made it sound like having him play a key role in our attack would seriously hobble the team's ability to get promoted, which isn't the case based off past history.
If I've misconceived it and you're just saying that he's not quite good enough to be the major creative force in a promotion-worthy team, fair enough - but in that case, I'm not sure who that assessment wouldn't apply to outside of, say, the very best attacking players in the league, which then makes it harsh to just focus on Adomah.
The bold bit is exactly what I'm saying.
If he plays up front then he doesn't score enough and he doesn't create enough.
If plays out wide then he doesn't adapt his game sufficiently to cover the weakness in the centre.
If he starts the majority of games we certainly won't get automatic promotion.
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It looks like his form in 13-14 with Middlesborough was something of an exceptional career high point.
In his (more or less ever present) 3 seasons before and 3 since his annus mirabalis he's managed 31 goals, i.e. averaged around 5 goals a season.
I agree that all players vary in form. The problem with him is that his that as his record shows, his 'base' level is totally underwhelming. Whatever got Middlesborough promoted in 15-16 (6 goals and 5 assists) doesn't seem to have been down to him in an attacking sense.
So all in all, I'd say a more detailed review of his record supports my theory perfectly.
You made it sound like having him play a key role in our attack would seriously hobble the team's ability to get promoted, which isn't the case based off past history.
If I've misconceived it and you're just saying that he's not quite good enough to be the major creative force in a promotion-worthy team, fair enough - but in that case, I'm not sure who that assessment wouldn't apply to outside of, say, the very best attacking players in the league, which then makes it harsh to just focus on Adomah.
The bold bit is exactly what I'm saying.
If he plays up front then he doesn't score enough and he doesn't create enough.
If plays out wide then he doesn't adapt his game sufficiently to cover the weakness in the centre.
If he starts the majority of games we certainly won't get automatic promotion.
Which then goes back to the Middlesbrough point - he started the majority of games for them just two seasons ago and that didn't stop them getting automatic promotion. In that case, it comes down to how the rest of the respective teams (ours vs them back then) shape up, but I don't get the targeting of him when so far, he's more than pulled his weight.
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It looks like his form in 13-14 with Middlesborough was something of an exceptional career high point.
In his (more or less ever present) 3 seasons before and 3 since his annus mirabalis he's managed 31 goals, i.e. averaged around 5 goals a season.
I agree that all players vary in form. The problem with him is that his that as his record shows, his 'base' level is totally underwhelming. Whatever got Middlesborough promoted in 15-16 (6 goals and 5 assists) doesn't seem to have been down to him in an attacking sense.
So all in all, I'd say a more detailed review of his record supports my theory perfectly.
You made it sound like having him play a key role in our attack would seriously hobble the team's ability to get promoted, which isn't the case based off past history.
If I've misconceived it and you're just saying that he's not quite good enough to be the major creative force in a promotion-worthy team, fair enough - but in that case, I'm not sure who that assessment wouldn't apply to outside of, say, the very best attacking players in the league, which then makes it harsh to just focus on Adomah.
The bold bit is exactly what I'm saying.
If he plays up front then he doesn't score enough and he doesn't create enough.
If plays out wide then he doesn't adapt his game sufficiently to cover the weakness in the centre.
If he starts the majority of games we certainly won't get automatic promotion.
Which then goes back to the Middlesbrough point - he started the majority of games for them just two seasons ago and that didn't stop them getting automatic promotion. In that case, it comes down to how the rest of the respective teams (ours vs them back then) shape up, but I don't get the targeting of him when so far, he's more than pulled his weight.
If we play the 4231 that has accompanied most of our decent performances and the 3 all get 5-6 goals and 8-10 assists then we'll be there or thereabouts. Adomah has achieved those sorts of figures for the last 2 years and is on course to do the same this year. He's not a world beater by any stretch but he creates enough chances to earn his place in the team given the paucity of creativity from elsewhere.
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Nobody is singling out Adomah - but this is the Adomag thread, and my original response to the revival of this thread was that he was playing the same as last year. That is he has streaks of goals then like most players reverts back to normal.
Rge last couple of posts re reiterates my main concern with him though.
If the attacking 3 score 5/6 each and the main stroker scores 20 then that makes 35-40 goals. The promoted teams generally score 70 meaning 30 comes from elsewhere. I don't see that happening.
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Well he's well on course for double figures so I'm not Sure what you're saying has too much relation to what he's doing.
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I think purely from his goal record this season and the upturn in results since he's been in the team, he has to play at the moment. I do think that his delivery from wide positions into the box (particularly last season) is largely terrible though. If he could improve that though he'd be a huge player for us.
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Nobody is singling out Adomah - but this is the Adomag thread, and my original response to the revival of this thread was that he was playing the same as last year. That is he has streaks of goals then like most players reverts back to normal.
Rge last couple of posts re reiterates my main concern with him though.
If the attacking 3 score 5/6 each and the main stroker scores 20 then that makes 35-40 goals. The promoted teams generally score 70 meaning 30 comes from elsewhere. I don't see that happening.
Right now the goals from the striker(s) are where my worry is, the midfield have provided plenty, Adomah included. Between them Kodjia, Davis, Gabby and Hogan have managed 4 goals in 16 games, that needs to improve massively for the rest of the season because that group need to provide 25-30 between them. The midfield, as a unit will make that many easily (they have 15 already) and Samba, Terry and Chester will score enough from set pieces to make a decent contribution as well.
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Well done Albert just top notch again keep it up.
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Albert has become such an important player.
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POTS so far.
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So good. He rightfully now owns his current position but I do wonder how he would do centrally.
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So good. He rightfully now owns his current position but I do wonder how he would do centrally.
As you’d wonder how Jimmy Page’d do on drums
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I don’t get why so many are unconvinced by Albert
Not sure how he’d do in the prem, but he got 10 assists last year in a side that struggled to attack and he has already been promoted so the “you’ll never get promoted with him” comments are odd
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I don’t get why so many are unconvinced by Albert
Not sure how he’d do in the prem, but he got 10 assists last year in a side that struggled to attack and he has already been promoted so the “you’ll never get promoted with him” comments are odd
He’d be fine in the Prem I reckon, well down the list of players to be replaced.
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I don’t get why so many are unconvinced by Albert
Not sure how he’d do in the prem, but he got 10 assists last year in a side that struggled to attack and he has already been promoted so the “you’ll never get promoted with him” comments are odd
He’d be fine in the Prem I reckon, well down the list of players to be replaced.
I agree and in addition he has shown an attitude that others should note. He was not in the team at the start of the season but knuckled down and when his chance came he took it and has made himself one of the most important members of the side.
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He was lapping it up yesterday at the end dancing in front of the away end as we sung his name. He looks like a man enjoying his football.
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Is often the difference when we win, gets criticism when we lose or draw when we should win. Maybe he goes missing in those games, I don't see enough of our games to judge.
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Is he on a long-term contract already? If not he should be re-signed/extended before someone comes calling for him.
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Is he on a long-term contract already? If not he should be re-signed/extended before someone comes calling for him.
I think he signed a four year contract, so he'd have two left after this season. He'll be in his 30s then as well, so we can probably play this one with a straight bat.
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Another impressive game from our Albert long may it continue.
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So it appears Albert is a QPR fan and as such muted his goal celebrations.
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thought Id bump this
Albert 8 goals and its only November
wasnt sure about him last year but hes been immense this season and will be player of the season If this carries on.
suprised he hasnt any assists thou , thats why we bought him :)
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Inverted winger, Ennit
Plus Kodjia hasn’t played much
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His confidence must be sky high right now.
Well done Albert. Well done.
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Always thought he was more than decent. Now he's on his way to becoming a Villa legend, if his goals get us promoted.
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😉 Adomah's in such good form, we've created market for him. . .
Who will score 10 Championship goals first - Albert Adomah or Birmingham? ⚽️
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🔥🔥 GOAL Adomah! 🔥🔥
He's going to get to 10 Championship goals before Birmingham isn't he? 🤣
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There it is. It's official.
👏Albert Adomah has scored more Championship goals than Birmingham City. 👏
🔥🔥 10 goals from midfield! 🔥🔥
Hats off to the #AVFC fans who took advantage of our 3/1 special market.
#PartOfThePride
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Much more of this and he'll be getting on for having a stand named after him.
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He is probably my favourite player now.
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I was not convinced by him last season and neither was Bruce.
He has had 2 players Come in to play in his position , was dropped and fought his way into the team and has been superb.
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I was not convinced by him last season and neither was Bruce.
He has had 2 players Come in to play in his position , was dropped and fought his way into the team and has been superb.
Have to agree
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Much more of this and he'll be getting on for having a stand named after him.
If it's the one opposite the Trinity I'm all for it.
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Much more of this and he'll be getting on for having a stand named after him.
If it's the one opposite the Trinity I'm all for it.
Amen brother.
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Much more of this and he'll be getting on for having a stand named after him.
If it's the one opposite the Trinity I'm all for it.
Amen brother.
It has a perfectly good name already.
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An Albert playing for Aston Villa sounds right to me.
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Reckon he could play as CF if needed?
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we need a memorial
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Now outscored* Heskey, Downing, Petrov, Cascarino and has the same as Milner for us in league matches.
At this rate he'll overtake Parker, Merson and Staunton by Christmas and Bent, Atkinson and Morley by the end of the season.
*awaits an inevitable correction somewhere
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I've always liked him 😉
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Albert did the job today. Respect
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I like Albert. Decent player, particularly when he's confident. Last season he was at his best when he was playing with Kodjia. With JK's injuries he's had to really find a new place within the team. He got a lot of assists last year, the majority for Kodj but this season, since fighting back into the side he's been playing with a swagger, determination and finding good positions. More importantly he's been scoring and in addition, Snodgrass playing in Albert's normal position as seen AA play more out on the left, naturally meaning he's coming in field and finding these pockets (which Davis has been key in opening). He's a decent finisher too. Long may it continue. The fact some people felt we should have sold him in the summer was ridiculous, particularly given he led our assists by quite some margin.
Like a lot of players, when he's confident and playing with a bit of swagger, he's very good. A cut above this league and he's delivering the goods. That's great for us as we look to push for automatic promotion.
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the form he's in he could solve the central defensive problem, the perennial left back problem and maybe replace AH too let alone the CF position
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What a swap deal he's turned out to be! Middlesboro completely shit the bed on this deal.
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We were all wetting the bed last season as Jimmy was close to the 20 goal mark, to do it from right wing in January would be fab!
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What a swap deal he's turned out to be! Middlesboro completely shit the bed on this deal.
I know! Whenever I'm feeling a bit sad I always think about the fact we convinced the Smoggies to take Adama in return for giving us Albert.
It's the only deal in history which was "Win-Win" for just one of the parties involved!
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He's going to get injured, isn't he?
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please don't say that.
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Now outscored* Heskey, Downing, Petrov, Cascarino and has the same as Milner for us in league matches.
At this rate he'll overtake Parker, Merson and Staunton by Christmas and Bent, Atkinson and Morley by the end of the season.
*awaits an inevitable correction somewhere
11 in 17 this season. In comparison, Gabby has scored 11 in his last 87. Since New Year"s Day 2014.
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What a swap deal he's turned out to be! Middlesboro completely shit the bed on this deal.
I know! Whenever I'm feeling a bit sad I always think about the fact we convinced the Smoggies to take Adama in return for giving us Albert.
It's the only deal in history which was "Win-Win" for just one of the parties involved!
I wouldn't write Adama off just yet, but great deal for us for a change.
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What a swap deal he's turned out to be! Middlesboro completely shit the bed on this deal.
I know! Whenever I'm feeling a bit sad I always think about the fact we convinced the Smoggies to take Adama in return for giving us Albert.
It's the only deal in history which was "Win-Win" for just one of the parties involved!
I wouldn't write Adama off just yet, but great deal for us for a change.
Traore is garbage. He hasn't scored a single goal for them. Literally all he had was speed.
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...and pace and skill -but sadly, not the head-up awareness to make the most of these talents.
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Daft question; what was the name of the TV programme that his new song eminates from.
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Daft question; what was the name of the TV programme that his new song eminates from.
You mean "Heartbeat"?
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...and pace and skill -but sadly, not the head-up awareness to make the most of these talents.
Are speed and pace not the same thing then?!
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...and pace and skill -but sadly, not the head-up awareness to make the most of these talents.
Are speed and pace not the same thing then?!
I don't know if it's intended here but I personally use them differently, for me pace is over 30-40 yards and is out right sprinting, speed is more the first few steps, although I do tend to use 'quick' more in that context. Gabby is a great example, Gabby has great pace over longer distances (so he's good at chasing down balls pumped into the channels) but he's not quick over the first few steps so he struggles in tight spaces.
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Daft question; what was the name of the TV programme that his new song eminates from.
You mean "Heartbeat"?
Thats the one
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Just tell Bruce, Gaffer/Boss/Brucey - I am better on the left cutting in. Two or three better options wide on the right.
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Just tell Bruce, Gaffer/Boss/Brucey - I am better on the left cutting in. Two or three better options wide on the right.
Yeah, that will work. Might as well talk to a washing machine. In fact, I just told my sister's washing machine to strangle itself in a vicious spin cycle, and it told me me to go and take a flying fuck at the moon.
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Getting concerned about Albert's poor form, which has gone on I believe for 2 months now. His only goal in that time was a penalty against Sheffield United, whereas previously he was in superb form, the large majority of our goals and assists were coming from him.
Not sure if he's lost a bit of confidence, but most times, when he gets the ball, he invariably loses possession and rarely provides quality balls into the box. He's now one of our least effective players. Not sure what the answer is, possibly a rest for a couple of matches and bring in Green. A return to form of Albert, would be a major boost for us in our push for automatic promotion.
This is the first post on him since 10 December which says it all.
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He has been “looked after properly” by opposition after that scoring run so now it’s up to him to work around that. Great players do ordinary players can’t. Let’s see how good he is?
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The fact that Albert has been closed down has allowed space to open up for other players. It's the beauty of having lots of options when playing well as a team. I'm sure Snoddy or Grealish will get it soon which will create opportunities for Albert or someone else.
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He has been “looked after properly” by opposition after that scoring run so now it’s up to him to work around that. Great players do ordinary players can’t. Let’s see how good he is?
I think he may feel more comfortable on the right or down the centre than out on the left, which I believe is his weakest side, and that's why he is struggling with the extra attention he is now getting
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The fact that Albert has been closed down has allowed space to open up for other players. It's the beauty of having lots of options when playing well as a team. I'm sure Snoddy or Grealish will get it soon which will create opportunities for Albert or someone else.
Agreed. I think in this league we are getting close to "Who are you going to stop?" status for the opposition.
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He has been “looked after properly” by opposition after that scoring run so now it’s up to him to work around that. Great players do ordinary players can’t. Let’s see how good he is?
I think he may feel more comfortable on the right or down the centre than out on the left, which I believe is his weakest side, and that's why he is struggling with the extra attention he is now getting
OK I am too dim footballing wise to see that detail so you could be right.
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Just look at how the goals have been spread out in the league - 11 for Adomah, 7 for Hourihane, 6 for Sndograss, 4 each for Hogan and Onomah. We could conceivably have three or four players hitting double digits, plus maybe half a dozen or so goals from Grabban. That's a great way to spread threat across a team.
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He has been “looked after properly” by opposition after that scoring run so now it’s up to him to work around that. Great players do ordinary players can’t. Let’s see how good he is?
I think he may feel more comfortable on the right or down the centre than out on the left, which I believe is his weakest side, and that's why he is struggling with the extra attention he is now getting
If you look at some of his goals and assists while at Boro, a lot of those were playing on the left wing or kind of in an inside left position. So he’s done it before.
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He has been “looked after properly” by opposition after that scoring run so now it’s up to him to work around that. Great players do ordinary players can’t. Let’s see how good he is?
I think he may feel more comfortable on the right or down the centre than out on the left, which I believe is his weakest side, and that's why he is struggling with the extra attention he is now getting
If you look at some of his goals and assists while at Boro, a lot of those were playing on the left wing or kind of in an inside left position. So he’s done it before.
He has scored goals coming in from the left hand side and looks pretty comfortable out there. My one gripe about it is that in games like Tuesday where Adomah and Snodgrass don't get too much joy, Bruce doesn't try switching them over for periods of the game. I'm sure opposition defenders are instructed before games to "show them the line" and not let them come inside on their stronger foot, so swapping them over periodically would just change things a bit.
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Would anyone swap him back for Adama?
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No.
What are the words to his version of Heartbeat?
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I'm sure he looked over at Bruce as he was coming off and mouthed 'prick'. He didn't look happy at being subbed, which is fair enough.
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I'm sure he looked over at Bruce as he was coming off and mouthed 'prick'. He didn't look happy at being subbed, which is fair enough.
Be odd as he waited on the touchline for Bruce to turn around after hive fiving the coaches, so he could do a gripped handshake with Bruce, with a pat on the back of his bonce.
Albert took a heavy one on Tuesday, as he seems to have done the past few games. Wouldn't surprise me if he's carrying a few knocks.
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I reckon he could have a slight injury , was suprised Green wasnt on the bench to get 20 minutes run out for Albert. Lets hope he goes on his good run for the final stages .
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I'm sure he looked over at Bruce as he was coming off and mouthed 'prick'. He didn't look happy at being subbed, which is fair enough.
Be odd as he waited on the touchline for Bruce to turn around after hive fiving the coaches, so he could do a gripped handshake with Bruce, with a pat on the back of his bonce.
Albert took a heavy one on Tuesday, as he seems to have done the past few games. Wouldn't surprise me if he's carrying a few knocks.
Fair enough. The camera was fixed on his face as he came off, he may have been saying it to their full back or the lino, it was just a the angle changed he looked in line with Bruce when he said it.
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He has been “looked after properly” by opposition after that scoring run so now it’s up to him to work around that. Great players do ordinary players can’t. Let’s see how good he is?
I think he may feel more comfortable on the right or down the centre than out on the left, which I believe is his weakest side, and that's why he is struggling with the extra attention he is now getting
If you look at some of his goals and assists while at Boro, a lot of those were playing on the left wing or kind of in an inside left position. So he’s done it before.
He has scored goals coming in from the left hand side and looks pretty comfortable out there. My one gripe about it is that in games like Tuesday where Adomah and Snodgrass don't get too much joy, Bruce doesn't try switching them over for periods of the game. I'm sure opposition defenders are instructed before games to "show them the line" and not let them come inside on their stronger foot, so swapping them over periodically would just change things a bit.
I'll get my coat........
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Anyone see Albert's post match interview this week? I loved his giddy excitement for the Blues game.
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His all round play lately has been poor, but after scoring that goal Saturday, i can see him having a blinder against the bitter heathens. 8)
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I love Albert but I still want to see green get some minutes soon
Albert managed to cross the ball well from the left v boro and Bristol, but has since reverted to floating them into the stands
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I would like to see him grinning and dancing on Sunday.
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for all the right reasons, yes.
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I would like to see him grinning and dancing on Sunday.
Not that I saw it until later at the weekend such was the ongoing celebration in the Lower Holte. Face planting your 9 year old into the row behind in celebration is not one I have seen before! The 13 year old who landed on my shoulders and was carried aloft for our celebration was cool as well.
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Is he injured? Read he may be out for Fulham?
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(http://thumb.ibb.co/fHKND7/C1992_F75_DB5_C_4_D06_95_B3_6_CD7_B01813_E8.png) (http://ibb.co/fHKND7)
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Is he injured? Read he may be out for Fulham?
Not as I have heard.
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He picked up a bit of a hammy first half v blues but seemed ok to carry on so I suspect he’ll he ok
I wouldn’t take a risk though. We’ve got a ludicrous squad at this level. I’d play green if needed. I think Brice would take the easier option of Bjarnason
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He looked good in the training video I just watched. I reckon he’ll be dancing again this weekend.
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Will he be available for Tuesday ?
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No
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https://twitter.com/donachie_dan/status/997157901163814913
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That's great PWS. Good on you Albert. Due a goal, maybe the winner in the final?
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That is so cool - loving how excited and happy she is. Well done Albert.
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Top man.
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I went to BH to pick something up from Tommy Elphick (great bloke) and the nly other player to get out of his car to speak to kids was Albert. A real gent.
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Epic season overall! And appreciated efforts goal scoring and his dancing.
Heres a thought and under Bruce unlikely but how about Albert as the left back or wing back next season.
I have Bree right side and Albert the other. I can give more thought and pen ideas once have idea of squad who is here and who isn't and who comes in.
Either a 3- 5-2 , 3-1-4-1-1, or simple 4_4_2
This is if we can't afford any extra left back and Albert played there a bit in po final.
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No
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Well no for you. It's an idea that's open to debate actually! And fact is he played there at Wembley (under circumstances granted)
Maybe you meant to say is "no, such tactical inventedness under Bruce doesn't happen, unless we are chasing the game and are having 4 strikers on the pitch and want to keep all attacking players on in any position." ;)
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Well no for you. It's an idea that's open to debate actually! And fact is he played there at Wembley (under circumstances granted)
Maybe you meant to say is "no, such tactical inventedness under Bruce doesn't happen, unless we are chasing the game and are having 4 strikers on the pitch and want to keep all attacking players on in any position." ;)
Albert is not strong enough to play wing back.
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Lots of rumours about us not giving Albert a new contract so might be sold. Another clear message we are not paying pension pots anymore. Good stuff
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Is he out of contract next summer or in 2020?
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He's got another year and we've got the option of another one after that. So he would be 32 when he's contract ran out with the option so not surprised we're holding fire on that. Doesn't mean he's going to be sold.
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I'd sell him. Brilliant first 4 months, think he's been average to poor since.
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From the OS when he signed "The 28-year-old arrives from Middlesbrough and joins us on a four-year deal."
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Don't see what the rush is, sell next summer especially if we go up.
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hugely difficult to replace him now so you're right I think.
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I don't see villa selling Albert Adomah to Leeds today .rumour or otherwise . Makes no sense selling best players.
3-5-2 or other wise!
I have him as someone who is very capable in league and gets us goals
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I don't see villa selling Albert Adomah to Leeds today .rumour or otherwise . Makes no sense selling best players.
3-5-2 or other wise!
I have him as someone who is very capable in league and gets us goals
He's very variable and seemed, last season, to run out of steam.
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I don't see villa selling Albert Adomah to Leeds today .rumour or otherwise . Makes no sense selling best players.
3-5-2 or other wise!
I have him as someone who is very capable in league and gets us goals
He's very variable and seemed, last season, to run out of steam.
Who isn't variable at this level if not higher.
Cant expect Salah levels or Messi however he did show this running out of steam but acknowledgement to his goal scoring threat as well as delivering .
I think Bruce has to freshen up a lot more so hopefully AA won't get fatigued
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I'd like to keep him, he scores goals which is what it's all about really.
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I'd like to keep him, he scores goals which is what it's all about really.
Quite, would seem a bit daft to sell him to a rival unless we're really on an FFP tightrope.
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I'd like to keep him, he scores goals which is what it's all about really.
Quite, would seem a bit daft to sell him to a rival unless we're really on an FFP tightrope.
The owners have said they want a young squad, the owners get a young squad.
He'll be either be loaned out with the option to buy in August or sold in January I reckon.
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I don't think he will
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I don't think he will
I do if we get somebody better and younger on loan, but until then you are probably right
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I imagine Bruce will want three wingers to rotate so we'd need to get two in
Can't see it happening
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Albert could play wide right or up front . I think Green should be given a go rather than waiting for cup tie and would actually use both of them in match v wigan on either flank.
Be ruthless and move Elmo out .
Can't see that happening and more think about it more see pretty similar team.
One way change occur if formation is changed today v wigan (or during match)
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The injury he had (in February?) knocked him back and never got back to his best after that.
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Was said to be used as a right side player when he came on? Was that the case though I not sure Bruce wants to use him and green at same pitch time unless pushing for goals and ended up taking Greeny off shortly after
That should always be the case though - pushing for goals!
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I think Adomah will be competitive in getting a place in team providing that Bolasie comes in as well as already signed ElGhazi.
Even though he's not left footed Adomah has shown he can score and assist from the left side.
I imagine his levels and stats are good but the extra pace of new wingers coming in will add dimensions that much needed .
He also doesn't seem so robust so it's right to have other players in squad who can play the wide role.
I hope we keep him involved and not let him to a rival
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If Bolasie happens I wouldn't be overly surprised to see Adomah loaned out to someone with a view to them buying him in the summer.
He's been absolutely useless since the Wolves game (ish)
I don't know what's happened to him, possibly complacency knowing he'll start every week or whatever. But he's gone right down the pon.
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His touch is atrocious and crossing not much better. I'll admit his goals were very useful last season but even then I dont think he wasn't actually playing that well.
His career best patch in terms of goal scoring was a perfectly understandable statistical possibility in a career where he averages around 10 goals a season.
The chances of him doing it again are virtually non-existent.
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For me it is pretty simple. When he has a decent full back behind him-he will play well.
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How will that help his control & crossing?
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I commented during the game on Wednesday he was playing too wide, literally keeping the linesman company. It seriously limits the passes available to him, especially from the full back, it also restricts him in what and where he can go and obviously it's not the best place to be putting in decent crosses.
If Bruce will allow him a bit more freedom I think he'll be far more productive. He should be hitting the far post when balls are coming in from the opposite side instead of just about managing to get on the edge of the area where he's a threat to nobody.
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Moving him back over to the right might help Adomah. He played well against Brentford but his crossing was poor most of the time. Hopefully, playing El Ghazi on the left, although he can play on the right too, might make Albert a bit more consistent. He has some competition now for places, especially if Bolasie comes in as well.
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Thought his overall game was much better the other night. Also Brentford were able to get much more of a foothold in the game once he went off.
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Moving him back over to the right might help Adomah. He played well against Brentford but his crossing was poor most of the time. Hopefully, playing El Ghazi on the left, although he can play on the right too, might make Albert a bit more consistent. He has some competition now for places, especially if Bolasie comes in as well.
Thing is, his stats last season were all better from the LEFT. And his one and only decent cross the other night came from his LEFT foot as well.
I think he's just broken or run out of belief/desire due to having no competition to keep him on his toes.
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Bruce didnt pick him to start with when he became manager due to his poor start with us.
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Moving him back over to the right might help Adomah. He played well against Brentford but his crossing was poor most of the time. Hopefully, playing El Ghazi on the left, although he can play on the right too, might make Albert a bit more consistent. He has some competition now for places, especially if Bolasie comes in as well.
Thing is, his stats last season were all better from the LEFT. And his one and only decent cross the other night came from his LEFT foot as well.
I think he's just broken or run out of belief/desire due to having no competition to keep him on his toes.
I hadn't realised that, fair play. I suppose the only argument to that is that Snodgrass was a shoe in and Albert had no choice but to play on the left. I wonder what was so different before Christmas when we was so effective and scored pretty much all of his goals to that point. There's no doubt he needed a kick up the arse and he'll get that from the incoming competition. What him net tomorrow!
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Bruce didnt pick him to start with when he became manager due to his poor start with us.
Of the 35 league games under Bruce in the first season Albert played in 34 of them.
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Bruce didnt pick him to start with when he became manager due to his poor start with us.
Of the 35 league games under Bruce in the first season Albert played in 34 of them.
He didn’t make the bench at the start of last season because Steve didn’t fancy him. It was only after numerous injuries that he made the staring lineup and excelled, scoring the goals that kept us in contention of the mighty play offs.
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Which isn't when Bruce became manager.
And that's as it should be, don't play well you get dropped, play well when you get your chances and you stay in the team.
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He jogged on, cut inside a couple of times, completely ineffective, then did fuck all and jogged off.
He has been crap for a long time.
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Which isn't when Bruce became manager.
And that's as it should be, don't play well you get dropped, play well when you get your chances and you stay in the team.
He was the manger for three quarters of a season before that Peter.
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I know, which is why I answered "Bruce didnt pick him to start with when he became manager" with "Of the 35 league games under Bruce in the first season Albert played in 34 of them."
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He jogged on, cut inside a couple of times, completely ineffective, then did fuck all and jogged off.
He has been crap for a long time.
He needs a run on the right.
It won't happen of course because Bruce seems to be fixated with playing people out of position and on top of that he's got his love child in as an auxiliary right winger for some strange reason.
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Should've started today.
AEM as a right winger is such a negative selection for me in a home game, it's like playing with one less attacker as he's a right back.
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He is our target-man, AEM that is. As was snodgrass in that position last year.
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Should've started today.
AEM as a right winger is such a negative selection for me in a home game, it's like playing with one less attacker as he's a right back.
It's a fudge, as is playing Tuanzebe at right back. Shows a lack of bottle with his selection decisions.
In saying that, Elmo has scored and had assist in our last two goals. Says a lot about or lack of creativity at the moment.
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Elmo is streets ahead of Albert in footballing terms. Elmo always puts in a shift and rarely offers less than 6/10. He can defend, he can cross and he can score on the rare occasion. But for some reason his face doesn't fit with some supporters, a bit like Whelan.
Albert in contrast, hasn't had a 6/10 game in what seems like years. Well back to the turn of this year at least.
He's either broken or in a huge sulk because the club weren't in a position to offer him an extended contract in the summer. If it's the latter then he can fuck right off out the door as well.
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Bruce didnt pick him to start with when he became manager due to his poor start with us.
Of the 35 league games under Bruce in the first season Albert played in 34 of them.
How many were starts? At the start of last season Bruce made a point out of saying how impressed he was with Adomah as he wasn't first choice until injuries gave him his chance.
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27 starts under Bruce in 16/17.
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I only see Albert on the box so is there anything watching him at the ground that points to his total reversal of form? to me it appears that he is trying and the effort is there so what is missing?
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Whenever a player is in bad form fans say it's because he's not trying
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trouble is he didn't look like he was trying or out of form the other night though, especially when taking the penalty.
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Brucey says Albert Adomah has a bad back and struggling with injury.
I'm not sure where all the info is coming from on him moving back to boro sounds a bit nonsensical and that it's a reguatation of rumour but will see....
I rather keep albert Adomah
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I think the fact that his brother has posted 'fuck Bruce' on twitter suggests it's more than a rumour.
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Hardly a loss. He’s been terrible for six months.
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That’d be a very stupid decision.
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I think the fact that his brother has posted 'fuck Bruce' on twitter suggests it's more than a rumour.
It's his brother is it ?
You sure on that or are you going with what been suggested as term bro and brother might not mean actual bro
Anyway this could all be in relation to carabo cup and way he called out players as well as that he may not be a first choice and Albert bro is annoyed that he is being put down pecking order
In fact this is indeed all very much a rumour and speculation.
And his bro says "if he is to stay at Villa he'll be on a mission when needed"
I think with new signings Albert won't be first choice
I think these comments add to rumours
I think Albert missing penalties helps the idea if a transfer
I think Bruce criticises players v Burton
All adds in .
Okay let's see
For record I want him to stay
For record it doesn't matter if it's his brother or not but it is someone close making comments I understand that.
For me 'situation' with albert that's what i see as rumour
I get people interpret and see differently
No worries
Fairs if you think it's more than rumour
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I think the fact that his brother has posted 'fuck Bruce' on twitter suggests it's more than a rumour.
It's his brother is it ?
You sure on that or are you going with what been suggested as term bro and brother might not mean actual bro
Anyway this could all be in relation to carabo cup and way he called out players as well as that he may not be a first choice and Albert bro is annoyed that he is being put down pecking order
In fact this is indeed all very much a rumour and speculation.
And his bro says "if he is to stay at Villa he'll be on a mission when needed"
I think with new signings Albert won't be first choice
I think these comments add to rumours
I think Albert missing penalties helps the idea if a transfer
I think Bruce criticises players v Burton
All adds in .
Okay let's see
For record I want him to stay
For record it doesn't matter if it's his brother or not but it is someone close making comments I understand that.
For me 'situation' with albert that's what i see as rumour
I get people interpret and see differently
No worries
Fairs if you think it's more than rumour
Well 2-3 news sites have said it's his brother so I just went with it.
Plenty of noise that he's on his way to boro as well, but I guess we'll know soon, only 20minutes to go either way.
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Albert is staying now according to Nixon. It would have been mad to let him go to a rival.
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Albert needs to get his head up and cross the fucking thing properly.
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1 phone call - terms rejected - he stays.
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Good
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I'm glad Albert is staying. Went a long way to saving Bruce his job last season, even though he wanted him out. What can be said about a manager who has more or less benched his two top scorers from last season and was happy to loan one of them to a rival?
Bruce doesn't see Albert as a long term option. I don't see Bruce as a long term option. I'm hoping Albert outlasts him.
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Adomah is a good player at this level. Loaning him to a potentail promotion rival is foolhardy at best. Thankfully looks like staying.
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I’m very pleased he’s staying as well.
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As am I.
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There's always going to be a debate about a player that goes from contributing a significant amount to producing very little. Adomah's been in very poor form for a long time and I'm still in the mindset of he needs to be dropped.
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He’s been a good player for us who is having a lean time.
The problem is, will he get the opportunity to come good again, or has Bruce upset and alienated him by looking to bomb him out?
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We've changed back to kodjia ball this season so he's not gonna score or contribute much.. Worth keeping for when Bruce gets binned.
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Well either way I wouldn’t want him at a promotion rival.
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To be honest he ain’t good enough for the PL or Boro would have hung on to him. Ok at this level but I get the impression ok is no longer good enough
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I'm glad Albert is staying. Went a long way to saving Bruce his job last season, even though he wanted him out. What can be said about a manager who has more or less benched his two top scorers from last season and was happy to loan one of them to a rival?
Bruce doesn't see Albert as a long term option. I don't see Bruce as a long term option. I'm hoping Albert outlasts him.
Bizarre treatment of a proven performer for us.
Admoah showed superb character last season
Was miles down the pecking order eventually getting his chance out of position for a manager who had no belief in him.
Adamoah and even Hourihane kept us in touch with promotion for most of last season, has been very quickly forgotten
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Albert is out of form, but still really useful in the squad.
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I'm glad Albert is staying. Went a long way to saving Bruce his job last season, even though he wanted him out. What can be said about a manager who has more or less benched his two top scorers from last season and was happy to loan one of them to a rival?
Bruce doesn't see Albert as a long term option. I don't see Bruce as a long term option. I'm hoping Albert outlasts him.
Bizarre treatment of a proven performer for us.
Admoah showed superb character last season
Was miles down the pecking order eventually getting his chance out of position for a manager who had no belief in him.
Adamoah and even Hourihane kept us in touch with promotion for most of last season, has been very quickly forgotten
If we can get better in then great, Hourihane and Admoah have to work hard to get back in the team, great for the club to have options like this. To have got rid of either would have been silly
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The treatment of Adomah by some fans is double speak standard as if complaing he's going to move this window yet complaing about his contribution to the team
Which has overall been immense last season.
He's not mo salah and can't perform every games give it some perspective on his performance but also screams of the ludicrous that's he being transferred were loud yet screams to were loud in him being dropped.
Sounds like some enquiry was made but I'm so so happy he stayed.
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I think people are just being pragmatic footy. He's 30, Bruce doesn't want him and seems quite prepared to let him leave on a free in the summer. this sums it up
Albert Adomah’s brother has launched a scathing attack on Aston Villa manager Steve Bruce.
Bruce was willing to let Adomah leave Villa after capturing wingers Yannick Bolasie and Anwar El Ghazi on loan from Everton and Lille respectively, but a return to Middlesbrough fell through.
The news comes just months after Adomah completed one of the best seasons of his professional career, scoring 15 times to claim Villa’s players’ player of the year award.
And the winger’s brother, who goes by the name of Quick Sessions on Twitter, has furiously hit out.
He posted: “F*** Bruce. There’s no loyalty in football anymore. My brother was loyal to Villa and still is. Saved a man’s job and the man forgot.
“When he got left out the team last year, he could have gone on loan to a Prem/top Championship team but decided to stay because he loves Villa. Stayed and only got back in the team by chance, and saved the man’s job.
“People saying he fell off second half of the season lol. He spent the second half of the season f***ing defending.“He is calm. If he is still at Villa come after deadline day, he will be on a mission when needed.
“My brother loves Villa. We love Villa.”
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Injury doubt for Friday after coming off injured v Norwich
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Having somewhat championed his cause .
after showing tonight I feel no more
It's yet another miss (would have scored that at some point last season) and not ending his goal drought - since last march, and just generally ineffective his time should be up as a first starter.
Like jedinak , adomah best days behind him
I think once green up to match speed he'll be in.
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He last had a good game in March 2018.
Done well for us for a time but one I'd move on in the summer.
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Lost his pace, balance, mobility and any skills he had. All he can manage to do now is run in a straight line until he runs into an opponent and get tackled.
Isn't he one out of contract in the summer anyway?
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I think we have an option to extend by a year
The only point in taking it is if we think we can sell him.
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Carried us almost single handed last season at times, but in a similar way to Kodjia, picked up an injury last Feb/March time and simply hasn't been the same player since. His time is up, as it should be with so many others, albeit for other reasons.
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I like him a lot and he's had his purple patches for sure, but when he's bad he's really fucking bad isn't he. Can't even use the excuse of being out of position that Kodjia can.
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Nice to see Albert adomah get a few goals recently.
I think his non celebration against Middlesbrough may have been because it's his former club and a respect thing.
It's also good to see Albert Adomah take part in the EFL day of action which was last month and now it's been posted on the official club website
Albert Adomah , club staff and volunteers from outreach angels were out helping and serving homeless in Birmingham.
Good work all round Albert
https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2019/03/19/albert-adomah-efl-day-of-action
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"A few goals".
What, has he been playing for the U23 recently?
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A few i.e. 1....!!!!
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2 actually
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Exactly why I said a few.
Also had 1 or 2 offside and missed .
Good to see him contribute but still not back at first choice levels for me
Decent player on his day
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Better coming out n from the left and the Egyptian from the right
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Hope he scores a couple of worldies against Steve Bruce's Sheffield Wednesday
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I think there's a decision to be made this summer about extending his contract bg a year?
I wouldn't, unless it was with a view to getting a fee for him. Not worth the wages if we're still down here and not prem level if we go up
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It'd depend on just how tight things go with FFP, I suppose. Presumably El Ghazi is the top priority, though I can't remember if he was reported as an obligation or an option to buy.
If things go pear-shaped for both him (in terms of suitors) and us, it may suit both sides to have him back on 1 or 2 year contract on more modest wages, given that the alternative would be to pay a transfer fee for someone else.
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El Ghazi was a obligation to buy, I think.
I don't see in him what others do...I think he's poor
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El Ghazi was a obligation to buy, I think.
I don't see in him what others do...I think he's poor
He shows an awareness that I've never really seen in AA. Yes, AA has done well for us in patches but now is the time to move him on. El Ghazi represents a talent-opportunity and Smith needs to release that: I think he has started to do that.
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Thanks for the service but it's time for Albert to move on now and for the likes of Green and RHM to step up.
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They're opposite players in a way. AEG has a lot of ability but blows hot and cold and often fails to impose himself on games. AA plays above his ability.
I'd rather Keep El Ghazi. He's only 23, has genuine vision and with AA we're already seeing diminishing returns and he's not got the kind of game that he can stretch into his mid 30s easily.
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I’m starting to think right wing is our weak position with neither of Albert, Green or Kodjia making any kind of influential impact on games. At times it’s like playing with 10 men as they contribute very little compared to a number of players. When was the last time Albert took a man on instead of just passing it back? When was the last time Green beat a man then delivered a good cross?
I’d be tempted to give the nod to Davis playing alongside Tammy and just have El Ghazi floating to provide the width and crosses.
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I’m starting to think right wing is our weak position with neither of Albert, Green or Kodjia making any kind of influential impact on games. At times it’s like playing with 10 men as they contribute very little compared to a number of players. When was the last time Albert took a man on instead of just passing it back? When was the last time Green beat a man then delivered a good cross?
I’d be tempted to give the nod to Davis playing alongside Tammy and just have El Ghazi floating to provide the width and crosses.
I’m pretty sure Dean doesn’t want to play with 2 wingers but his full backs are not good enough to get up and down. Hopefully a new LB and Freddy will solve the RW problem next season
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Albert looked disinterested last night, had a row on the pitch with his captain and then took the worst penalty of the night. He's been fairly useless now for 12 months and I hope we can shift him regardless of where we are next season.
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sadly I agree - something hasn't been right since he was injured towards the end of last season.
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I don't think he looked disinterested, just lacking in confidence. Lately he seems to be turning back looking for a pass when in previous seasons he would have had got his head down and been taking on defenders.
That said, he would still have been the hero if not for a very good save by Johnstone. You could argue he should have put his shot wide of the keeper but, given a split-second to react, he did well to get the direction and power that he did and can count himself unfortunate not to have scored.
Overall, though, he doesn't seem good enough for us in this division... let alone if we go up.
Even if we sign AAG permanently, we still need to improve our wing options.
If Albert does leave he would do so with all our blessings I'm sure. He's been a good servant to the cause. And if he does leave, it be great if his last contribution is scoring the goal that gets us promoted...
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He’s let us down since the later part of last season. He was absolutely vital when Kodjia got injured but has been largely terrible ever since. We definitely need to strengthen significantly on the wings next season it’s our poorest position.
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That right side of the forward three is a real problem area. Green is terrible, Adomah looks like he's mentally checked out, and Kodjia doesn't do enough work.
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He's keeping that position warm for Joe Lolley
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That right side of the forward three is a real problem area. Green is terrible, Adomah looks like he's mentally checked out, and Kodjia doesn't do enough work.
None of those three were anywhere near good enough last night. I don't thin El Ghazi was either to be fair. Would love have loved to have seen one of them put a decent ball into the box last night. Their final balls were woeful!
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Do you remember last summer when Albert travelled to Middlesborough and then came back?
I suspect that either Pulis / Aliens / or the CIA either replaced him with a doppleganger or did some kind of nasty experiments on his brain.
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I think it’s harsh to criticise his performance last night. Looked decent when he came on and immediately helped us be more incisive, battled for the ball around their box and had our best attempt which would have got past most keepers. Also he stepped up and took a penalty for which he gets my respect. The fact he missed is largely irrelevant to how much credit he gets (imo).
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That right side of the forward three is a real problem area. Green is terrible, Adomah looks like he's mentally checked out, and Kodjia doesn't do enough work.
None of those three were anywhere near good enough last night. I don't thin El Ghazi was either to be fair. Would love have loved to have seen one of them put a decent ball into the box last night. Their final balls were woeful!
At least El Ghazi looks like a threat. Green looks like a League 2 player doing his best but ultimately playing really badly, and Adomah loos like he's on the proverbial beach. We can't afford any passengers when we play Leeds, so I'm not sure what the answer is. Play Whelan and Hourihane in the midfield 3 and push Jack further up perhaps?
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AA was an improvement on Green and unlucky not to score but like Green he cannot go past his marker, that's why I would prefer Hause at left back he has the skill and pace to worry defenders and he would give us extra height on the back line, I thought we looked vulnerable from corners and of course the long throw.
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I agree if smith could find a way to play Hourihane and Whelan that would be good.
Hard to pick between those three. Probably still Adomah for me. JD can be unplayable but when he isn’t he offers nothing and the chances of the latter are way higher. Green just looks overawed and no end product.
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That right side of the forward three is a real problem area. Green is terrible, Adomah looks like he's mentally checked out, and Kodjia doesn't do enough work.
None of those three were anywhere near good enough last night. I don't thin El Ghazi was either to be fair. Would love have loved to have seen one of them put a decent ball into the box last night. Their final balls were woeful!
At least El Ghazi looks like a threat. Green looks like a League 2 player doing his best but ultimately playing really badly, and Adomah loos like he's on the proverbial beach. We can't afford any passengers when we play Leeds, so I'm not sure what the answer is. Play Whelan and Hourihane in the midfield 3 and push Jack further up perhaps?
El Ghazi does look a threat at times but he frustrates the hell out of me most of the time! Green isn't up to the job - impact sub for a bit of pace late in games at best at the moment. Albert looks like his brain is still able but his body isn't to me.... legs look like they've gone sadly.
Smith won't change the formation too much for the final anyway. It'll either be Hourihane or Whelo and Albert or Green. But those wing positions are areas that need serious strengthening in the summer.
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Do you remember last summer when Albert travelled to Middlesborough and then came back?
I suspect that either Pulis / Aliens / or the CIA either replaced him with a doppleganger or did some kind of nasty experiments on his brain.
He was poor in the run in last season aswell.
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That right side of the forward three is a real problem area. Green is terrible, Adomah looks like he's mentally checked out, and Kodjia doesn't do enough work.
None of those three were anywhere near good enough last night. I don't thin El Ghazi was either to be fair. Would love have loved to have seen one of them put a decent ball into the box last night. Their final balls were woeful!
I would add Abraham to that list last night as well. Didn't hold the ball up at all and contributed very little. Taylor's contributions in the final third were pretty woeful as well.
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I think El Ghazi always looks dangerous and he starts for me, even though delivery could be better he looks one of our biggest goal threats.
Green to me is at best an impact player off the bench. Kodjia likewise.
I'd start with Adomah (there aren't any other options) , he was unlucky not to score and he combines well with Elmo. I knew he was going to miss the pen though ! Definitely an area of the team we have to strengthen either way.
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Tammy is the decisive factor for me. Has been a shadow of himself for a while now. We've basically gone from having the best striker in the league to a barely functioning striker. If he can get back to looking like himself at wembley that could be the difference.
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Bearing in mind the heavy knock he sustained against Bolton, Tammy might be doing as well as he can at present.
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Yeah his attitude is great and there is really no other option than to play him even if he's half fit. But it's just frustrating because we'd bury anyone with him firing on all cylinders.
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It seems like whoever starts does badly and whoever comes on does better
Against 38 year old Ashley Cole I think there's a strong case for playing Kodjia there. Surely he won't have to track back too much?
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Tammy is the decisive factor for me. Has been a shadow of himself for a while now. We've basically gone from having the best striker in the league to a barely functioning striker. If he can get back to looking like himself at wembley that could be the difference.
The service to Tammy was woeful, so he isn't going to look as effective with the poor standard of delivery. When Albert came on I can't recall him once taking on the full back and getting a cross in.
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did anyone else notice that his arm was bandaged? Clearly visible in some shots.
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Tammy is the decisive factor for me. Has been a shadow of himself for a while now. We've basically gone from having the best striker in the league to a barely functioning striker. If he can get back to looking like himself at wembley that could be the difference.
The service to Tammy was woeful, so he isn't going to look as effective with the poor standard of delivery. When Albert came on I can't recall him once taking on the full back and getting a cross in.
But he failed to hold the ball when it was played in to him and also gave the ball away too easily.
Sometimes his basic technique lets him down.
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well he needs to be tucking away the chances that come his way if we are to emerge victorious
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Will not have his contract renewed and will be released this summer according to reports on social media.
If true, I’m not surprised. From starting on a high, having a fantastic scoring streak and being very consistent, he has gradually gone down the dip.
Certainly not good enough for the premier league.
Thanks for the memories Bert, and good luck in the future.
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I thought he was poor on Monday
Up against a 74 year old Ashley Cole, he didn't trouble him anywhere near enough. All his crosses were hit way too hard, too.
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Absolutely the correct decision if true. I can’t remember the last time he attempted to beat a man rather than take the easy option of carrying the ball forward for a bit and pass back to Elmo...or run down blind alleys and lose possession. Unfortunately I think his legs have gone and he simply isn’t good enough for the Premier League. He’s a genuine bloke and has been a great servant to Aston Villa, so have the utmost respect and wish you all the best Albert.
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I thought he was poor on Monday
Up against a 74 year old Ashley Cole, he didn't trouble him anywhere near enough. All his crosses were hit way too hard, too.
Don't exaggerate. He's 92. Correct decision about Albert. Poor for 12 months and a good chunk of salary off the wage bill. Cheers Albert, all the best.
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He still has a year to run so we must be releasing him with his agreement if it's true.
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He’s a genuine bloke and has been a great servant to Aston Villa,
I wouldn't go that far. He's done three seasons for us in the Championship and only one of them was any good.
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His brother's social media postings confirms this.
Thanks, Albert. You've played your part in our return and we won't forget your contribution, especially last season. Your song was sung so loudly at Villa Park during your scoring streak, I hope you take those moments with you onto your next challenge. Cast aside by Boro, and almost cast aside by Bruce last summer, you'll always be a Villan.
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Thanks for the memories. Correct decision though. I though he was poor last few months.
But wishing him all the best.
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A shame but totally understandable. The championship is his level now.
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I like Albert but the Championship was always his level.
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He will do a job for somebody chasing promotion. All the best Albert.
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He will do a job for somebody chasing promotion. All the best Albert.
Sheff Wed would be my bet
I know it’s an easy link but Bruce is a predictable guy
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Good luck Albert, I like you and wish you well wherever you find yourself. You will always be Part of the Pride and be remembered and welcome at Villa Park. Thank you.
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Good luck Albert, thanks for all your effort and goals. One of your sweetest moments must have been scoring at Hillsborough this season!
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After Bruce tried to dump him I doubt he’ll roll up there. Boro would take him back I bet.
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After Bruce tried to dump him I doubt he’ll roll up there. Boro would take him back I bet.
yeah your right I forgot all about that
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Best of luck to him. Didn’t quite look the same player when he came back from the latest injury, stopped trying to beat his man.
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Going into the last few weeks of the season the right wing position swapped between Albert and Green and neither could make themselves first choice so this news is not surprising added into his age.
Had a solid 3 years overall though and scored many vital goals certainly one of the better early transfer deals
All the best in the future , suspect he may go back to Boro if wage demands are not too high
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I can see Green being sold if a decent offer comes in for him.
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I can see Green being sold if a decent offer comes in for him.
the fact that Albert was preferred over Green a lot of the time and has now been released does not bode well for him
maybe Kodjia as well
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Thanks Albert.
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Kodjia is a bit mental by all accounts and the various videos doing the rounds. I don’t think he’s a Dean Smith type of player. I can’t see him being here either. Great memories though pre-injury and he was just superb at Rotherham in that second half. He played his role but I can see him back in France at a decent team.
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Good luck, Albert and thanks for all you did.
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All the best Bert. Top man, always welcome back at Villa Park.
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Will always have fond memories of Uncle Albert .Always gave his best and i will never forget his goal celebrations I hope he finds a decent club next season
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Good guy, contributed well overall. Right decision though and I'm sure he'll pick up a decent contract somewhere. Good luck Albert.
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Played his part in getting us up. Good luck.
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Good luck uncle Albert.
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All the very best Albert.
You're part of the team that got us back home.
That vital goal at Wednesday jumped into my mind when I heard the news that he was being released.
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This makes me sad. The album has only just gone platinum and already the band is breaking up 😢
Thanks for everything Albert and good luck. Maybe he will go back to Boro now they've got rid of Pulisaurus.
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Good bloke Albert. He was nowhere near as good this season as last but he played his part.
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Likeable bloke. He's been solid for us but this is very much his level and he's past 30 now. Good luck Albert. His first season when he and Kodjia in particular were both in excellent form and seemed to have the Shinning together, was good to watch. Second season he scored a fair few. He definitely did his bit and overall was a good bit of business because Traore still can't be trusted as a starter. I'll miss those celebrations.
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It's the right decision.
Albert was excellent in 16/17 linking up with Kodjia and then have that goal spree up to January 2018 but since then his levels have dropped off although he's popped up with goals from time to time.
Still likeable chap and when he played you knew he'd work hard and get crosses in and also help out the full back.
No room for sentiment, I'm sure he'll find a home back at Bristol City or Sheff Weds easily enough.
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Yep good luck to him, he’s been a very good and reliable player for his most part and a top class professional.
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This talk of the Championship being Albert's level. Maybe it is.
For me, he was part of the first Villa team in close to a decade that was going into games looking to win. His purple patch coincided with our best form around that time.
Maybe in a few years we'll look at him in the same way Citeh fans look at Nicky Weaver.
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He just did what he was paid to do, but at least did it pretty well at times an with a smile on his face. Are you watching/listening Mr McCormack?
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Thank you and good luck Albert...a gentleman
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In the semi and the final he covered the flank defensively better than Green, good servant for the time he was with us.
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We have lost better players but not many better men.
Thanks Albert all the best for the future
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Currently featured player on the AVFC website. Whoops.
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Seems strange that no official club announcement made either ?
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I was just going to ask where it has been seen, but then saw the post from his brother.....good luck Albert, a good guy and did your job in getting us back to where we should be with a smile on your face, which put a smile on our faces. Right decision though to let him find somewhere this summer - back to Bristol maybe?
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He's not put a decent quality ball in the box in 18 months! Even if we had stayed down I would have moved him on.
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Will always remember him very fondly. Gave us 3 years and although his form has swung wildly in that time i'd say he's served us very well overall. Now 31 and with little chance of having any impact in the PL, it's the right decision but i hope he goes back to Bristol and has a great few years there again.
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I could be as far out as a lighthouse but I think I may have read somewhere that Albert is a Charlton fan? If so, I can see him being an ideal fit for them. I agree with all the other posters that he always played with a smile on his face and that's infectious.
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I'm certainly glad to have had Albert over the last 3 years than that useless waste of space Adama. As Deano rightly says everybody (except Richards and Gates Mac) has contributed towards our promotion. Oooh Albert Adomah!
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Seems strange that no official club announcement made either ?
Perhaps the rumour isn't true. Maybe someone just lumped Albert in with the out of contract players, forgetting that he still has another year
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He's not put a decent quality ball in the box in 18 months! Even if we had stayed down I would have moved him on.
Cough... Grealish goal against Small Heath at Villa Park.
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Will always be fondly remembered by Villa fans,but nowhere near good enough for the Premier League.
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I could be as far out as a lighthouse but I think I may have read somewhere that Albert is a Charlton fan? If so, I can see him being an ideal fit for them. I agree with all the other posters that he always played with a smile on his face and that's infectious.
He's a QPR fan - Grew up next to the ground.
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I could be as far out as a lighthouse but I think I may have read somewhere that Albert is a Charlton fan? If so, I can see him being an ideal fit for them. I agree with all the other posters that he always played with a smile on his face and that's infectious.
He's a QPR fan - Grew up next to the ground.
Yes, now I recall. I don't know why I thought it was Charlton. Be nice if QPR took a chance on him too.
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Seems strange that no official club announcement made either ?
Perhaps the rumour isn't true. Maybe someone just lumped Albert in with the out of contract players, forgetting that he still has another year
It might be that instead of making multiple announcements the club will make one for everyone at the end of the purge.
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Why are we releasing him from his contact a year early instead of inviting offers so we pick up a million quid or two? Is it us being good to him by not pricing him out of a move and him being able to negotiate with other clubs? Does it also mean we'll pay him the last year of his contract regardless? I'm not sure how these things work but it seems overly generous of the club.
As for the man himself, great memories of his purple patch and the occasional bright spot since then but ultimately he would have fallen further down the pecking order next season in the Championship let alone the PL.
Whoever coined his nickname, it was an inspired one. Presumably it's a reference to Only Fools and Horses and his being from Shepherds Bush-Bush-Bush-Bush. I love how it spread so far amongst the fans, the celebration at Hillsborough worked well with that even if it wasn't what he was referring to.
I also just realised that I don't remember what he sounds like, he never seemed to give too many interviews (I guess if I searched far back enough on Pravda, there would be something there).
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Why are we releasing him from his contact a year early instead of inviting offers so we pick up a million quid or two? Is it us being good to him by not pricing him out of a move and him being able to negotiate with other clubs? Does it also mean we'll pay him the last year of his contract regardless? I'm not sure how these things work but it seems overly generous of the club.
I though the same thing, he's still worth a fee. I've no issues with him being real eased but we're not a charity at the same time. You'd think we must have some to a reduced agreement as we wouldn't release him, pay his entire wages and not worry about a fee.
He's certainly still got a good year or 3 left as a decent player in the championship.
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Why are we releasing him from his contact a year early instead of inviting offers so we pick up a million quid or two? Is it us being good to him by not pricing him out of a move and him being able to negotiate with other clubs? Does it also mean we'll pay him the last year of his contract regardless? I'm not sure how these things work but it seems overly generous of the club.
I though the same thing, he's still worth a fee. I've no issues with him being real eased but we're not a charity at the same time. You'd think we must have some to a reduced agreement as we wouldn't release him, pay his entire wages and not worry about a fee.
He's certainly still got a good year or 3 left as a decent player in the championship.
Because we must be confident we can get better
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Why are we releasing him from his contact a year early instead of inviting offers so we pick up a million quid or two? Is it us being good to him by not pricing him out of a move and him being able to negotiate with other clubs? Does it also mean we'll pay him the last year of his contract regardless? I'm not sure how these things work but it seems overly generous of the club.
I though the same thing, he's still worth a fee. I've no issues with him being real eased but we're not a charity at the same time. You'd think we must have some to a reduced agreement as we wouldn't release him, pay his entire wages and not worry about a fee.
He's certainly still got a good year or 3 left as a decent player in the championship.
Because we must be confident we can get better
woosh
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Good luck Albert. You always did your best for us in or out of the team.
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All the best Albert, thanks and good luck in the future
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Did a good job for us. Loved the fact he always played with a smile on his face and even if he wasn’t in the starting line up he always had a big smile on his face warming up on the touch line. Best of luck to him.
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This one I'm sad about because I think he's been one of the most consistent players the last couple of years. But he's fallen down the pecking order so can I understand it. I wish him good luck. Thanks Double A!
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This one I'm sad about because I think he's been one of the most consistent players the last couple of years....
Consistently mediocre, bar a short purple patch of scoring.
He's at his level.
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He was outstanding during that great spell last season under Bruce peaking with the Wolves hammering. He fell away performance wise following that and this season he's just been a total nothing.
His legs look gone to me, his sole purpose has been to stand wide right wait for the ball and immediately knock it backwards for Elmohamdy or whoever was playing right back to do something with.
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Always struck me as a player that would suffer a lot from losing mobility because he doesn't have much of a footballing brain, which has proved to be the case. He's mostly been an asset for us through, and featured in every game in our record breaking winning streak, so it's a bit harsh to send him on his way without acknowledging his contribution this season as well.
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About to sign for Forest.
Now, if you want to have a little word with Lolley about the pleasures of Villa Park, please feel free.
Good luck Bert.
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I don't think convincing Lolley is the issue!
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Always gave his all for us and scored some vital goals.
Best of luck Albert.
If you can help get one former European Cup Winner back to the top flight...
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I liked him but if we are bringing players in to strengthen for the top flight some who have done a job for us in the Championship have to go. Like in 1988 with the likes of Steve Sims and Mark Lillis.
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You're right Damo, doubt if he could do much in the top flight, but more than able at Championship level. Lots of luck to him.
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There is a whiff of the Bitters trying to snatch him from Forest. Although I would not begrudge a professional the chance to continue his career
DON'T DO IT ALBERT
Forest are good for you
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I was thinking about Albert yesterday and was hoping to read he had secured a new club - hope this comes off for him.
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Did a job, but given the clubs he's linked with, shows we made the right decision.
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He's shot and I did like him, but how many moments would you recall from last season:
The goal at Leeds and a brilliant cross at Hillsborough
I think he would struggle in the championship.
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I thought that goal against Leeds when he took on their entire defence with the run from half way line before rounding the keeper and slotting it home was a bit special.
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Scored the equaliser at Stoke, so could claim to have started the ridiculous run of form that eventually saw us promoted.
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You're right Damo, doubt if he could do much in the top flight, but more than able at Championship level. Lots of luck to him.
This was the reason we got him in the first place as Boro went up and didn't then he'd be up for the Prem then.
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Average, can't be bothered half the time, especially if he really needs to dig in. Forest, you're welcome. One good season. Getting rid, absolutely the right thing to do.
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I never got the impression that he couldn't be bothered. And he had more than one good season. Think that post is nonsense tbh.
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Wonder if the new manager will play him, feels very much like a MON signing to me. Did I read Hutton has also gone there?
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He seemed to be about to sign but speculation has dried up a bit. Probably because O'Neill has gone since, I hadn't thought of that till you mentioned him.
There was also one rumour that TSC might end up at Baggies. I sincerely fucking hope not.
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I never got the impression that he couldn't be bothered. And he had more than one good season. Think that post is nonsense tbh.
That's fine. All about opinions. I thought, even in a promotion winning season, he was next to anonymous. He went on a great scoring run in his first season and then went nearly 12 months without scoring. I honestly got a sense with him that he could have tried an awful lot harder.
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His goal scoring run basically got us in the playoffs when we didn’t have any goal scoring strikers.
And agree that he never once looked like he wasn’t putting a shift in, his legs just started to go.
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His goal scoring run basically got us in the playoffs when we didn’t have any goal scoring strikers.
And agree that he never once looked like he wasn’t putting a shift in, his legs just started to go.
His goal scoring run basically got us in the playoffs when we didn’t have any goal scoring strikers.
And agree that he never once looked like he wasn’t putting a shift in, his legs just started to go.
Maybe so. His legs going, that is. The scoring thing, didn't he have something like 14 before Christmas and then scored only once after Christmas? Memory not what it was!
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Overall he was good for us, and there was that cracking spell in the second season. But to me that's what he is, a good second division player that will have the odd high or low spell. I never got the impression he wasn't trying, but I did feel that his abilities were on the wane last season.
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He definitely scored fewer goals when we had Grabban and then Abraham.
He seemed to score most of his goals when playing alongside Kodjia. I guess certain players' styles just suit each other.
It's possible he was discouraged from getting forward so often once Grealish was playing, too. Grealish was missing for most of his first half-season, from memory.
I may have got all of the above mixed up. I usually do.
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He definitely scored fewer goals when we had Grabban and then Abraham.
He seemed to score most of his goals when playing alongside Kodjia. I guess certain players' styles just suit each other.
It's possible he was discouraged from getting forward so often once Grealish was playing, too. Grealish was missing for most of his first half-season, from memory.
I may have got all of the above mixed up. I usually do.
You're right about his partnership with Jimmy. They seemed to bring the best out in each other, at least in that season. I had forgotten about that! I guess not long afterwards, Jimmy got that ankle knock and doesn't seem the same since. Adomah's legs definitely started going.
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The last minute goal at Hillsborough will live long in the memory. Thanks Albert.
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I think Davis was playing most games when Albert had that crazy run, Kod played in some of them as well.
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I liked him. His goals got us a lot of the points to get us to Wembley last year. And I'm still unconvinced that he's not my neighbour, "Frank". Never seen them both in the same room at the same time, s'all.
But anyone that thinks he's even vaguely a PL player has a screw loose.
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Pretty much where I am. He was an absolute gun the season before last and without his goals we’d have had another write off season instead of a run into the playoffs. Few memorable moments last season, I agree, and it’s the right decision to move on but I can’t fathom what he has done to deserve the shade he’s getting from some in here.
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All the best to Albert but it seems to me that his legs have gone (nothing to do with being lazy or not arsed). He’s lost his pace, skill and can’t beat a man. He hasn’t got what it takes to be a key player in a team challenging for promotion, so may be a few sub cameo appearances for a mid table Championship club.
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Absolutely loved him and wish him well. Certainly not as terrible last season as some are making out. IMHO of course.
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I really like him, though I can't remember ever seeing him play well (and that could be my fault rather than his). You can't not love his face though.
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He’s definitely better on the left cutting In, I was surprised at the he thought me as to why Albert was on the right and the Egyptian wizard on the left but the final 12 games answered that question for me
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Scored some important goals for us and was a fine servant in the Championship but he never seemed the same after that last injury.
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Really nice guy who served well to the best of his abilities and was another treated badly by fist face.
Loved the dancing celebrations and the madness of the headstand one
Good luck Albert wherever you end up*
*not bitters of course
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I thought he was a great player and should IMO be remembered as a worthy part of the recent team. Admittedly he seemed to fade as JG and TA started to get the attention but I do still think that he was an important part. Perhaps he wasn't so adaptable and with JG coming back meant that the style/formation didn't suit him.
I for one am pleased he came to Villa and hope he has a decent future ahead of him.
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I thought he was a great player and should IMO be remembered as a worthy part of the recent team. Admittedly he seemed to fade as JG and TA started to get the attention but I do still think that he was an important part. Perhaps he wasn't so adaptable and with JG coming back meant that the style/formation didn't suit him.
I for one am pleased he came to Villa and hope he has a decent future ahead of him.
Absolutely. An amazing spell last year and generally decent otherwise. Seemed a bit quiet this season but certainly contributed. I'd like to see him at Forrest.
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Flourished under Steve Bruce. Didn't suit Smith's setup at all and he was losing whatever pace he had.
Grateful for his contribution and wish him all the best in future.
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I always liked Albert. I think he reached his pinnacle with us and I'm pleased he got to be a winner with us at Wembley. I wish him well at his new club. Always seemed a likeable person.
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I always liked Albert. I think he reached his pinnacle with us and I'm pleased he got to be a winner with us at Wembley. I wish him well at his new club. Always seemed a likeable person.
Totally agree Dave, first season goals and assist tally was extraordinary but last years form was patchy to say he least but let's not forget the all important goal he scored at Stoke.
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Just been confirmed on Sky that he's signed a two year deal at Forest.
I'm pleased for him.
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Might not have been the sort of player capable of making a big impression in the top flight.
But when you consider we'll be facing sides like Norwich, Sheffield United, Brighton, Newcastle, Palarse and Burnley,I would have been happy enough to keep him involved and use him when injuries started to hit.
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Albert was good for us. Top guy, very likeable. He did what was asked of him. Two good seasons. A not brilliant one just gone, but still had his moments. He did exactly what we signed him for, and that was to be a top end Championship player and impact games. He did that, and that was his ceiling at the best of times. He's post 30 now, he's lost a bit of pace. He'll do a good job for Forrest, and I wish him all the best. But there's no way the man deserves any negativity (especially considering some of the big money we spunked on some utter dross). Great rapport with the fans. Did his job. We're up. He saw his deal out and it was best to part ways at that point. He needs to play, and we need to improve in his position.
All the best Unc. He'll always be one of those players you look back on as 'remember him' and it'll be fond memories for the majority of us.
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Even last season I think he did a decent job in general, I just think he struggled with coming inside off the right wing which was how Smith wanted him playing to create space for Elmo.
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One of the most popular players in recent times to wear the Villa shirt, wish you all the best Albert.
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His goal at Sheff Wed was vital too. Top servant, typical Championship player, some great games, some no so great but a professional at all times. See Elphick. T.
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His goal at Sheff Wed was vital too. Top servant, typical Championship player, some great games, some no so great but a professional at all times. See Elphick. T.
Completely agree, good luck and thanks for everything you did for the Villa
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Good news, hope he does well. i'll miss him and his song!