Just because he's not playing well he hardly deserves pelters for selling what is probably a pretty modest football players home by PL standards?
Just because he's not playing well he hardly deserves pelters for selling what is probably a pretty modest football players home by PL standards?
Absolutely right. What are we thinking, having a bit of fun at poor Gabby's expense
I've heard most of them like hurting small animals in their spare time too...Eh?
If he's selling up it must mean he's off at the end of the season.
Or,
He can now afford a house with agymfridge on each floor.
For those two winning goals at the Railway End, I don't begrudge him a penny he's made.
For those two winning goals at the Railway End, I don't begrudge him a penny he's made.
I do. I begrudge every single penny he's stolen over the last few seasons. His attitude has been a factor in the reason why he'll have the opportunity to score another goal at the Railway End next season. And, unfortunately, if he does, far too many of our supporters will forgive him for the dozens of sub-standard "performances" that have been the hallmark in recent times of this so-called fan.
Gabby on the move? Thats quite funny isn't it. Never had him down as a wine expert!
Looks like breeze block extensions to me.
he looks a fat bastid in that bham mail piece, still he's probably got more a 6 pack than most of us.
sooner he goes though, the better.
It is a not a bad house. He must be a potential transfer in the summer hopefully. If I had the money I wouldn't buy it.
I broke down in the car a year or so ago,Let me guess! This was when Delph signed his "here for the long run" four and a half year contract? I went a little misty-eyed too.
videos playing of Gabby's goals on a repeat loopBased on how long ago it was that he scored most of them, Gabby must be one of the few remaining owners of a Betamax video player.
I broke down in the car a year or so ago, the guy who came to collect the car said that he had dropped a car off at Gabby's house and that in the hall there were TV screens along both walls with videos playing of Gabby's goals on a repeat loop
I broke down in the car a year or so ago, the guy who came to collect the car said that he had dropped a car off at Gabby's house and that in the hall there were TV screens along both walls with videos playing of Gabby's goals on a repeat loop
I'm guessing it was probably playing from 128mb SD card.
For those two winning goals at the Railway End, I don't begrudge him a penny he's made.
I do. I begrudge every single penny he's stolen over the last few seasons. His attitude has been a factor in the reason why he'll have the opportunity to score another goal at the Railway End next season. And, unfortunately, if he does, far too many of our supporters will forgive him for the dozens of sub-standard "performances" that have been the hallmark in recent times of this so-called fan.
For those two winning goals at the Railway End, I don't begrudge him a penny he's made.
I do. I begrudge every single penny he's stolen over the last few seasons. His attitude has been a factor in the reason why he'll have the opportunity to score another goal at the Railway End next season. And, unfortunately, if he does, far too many of our supporters will forgive him for the dozens of sub-standard "performances" that have been the hallmark in recent times of this so-called fan.
It was mostly a flippant, light hearted remark. Although there is some truth in it. I realise he's a shadow of his former self (insert joke about weight gain here), but he has provided me with some great memories, and yes, I'll be over the moon if he scored a late winner at the Railway End again next season. That's not to say I'm not pissed off at how shite he's been for the past two or three seasons too.
Totally anonymous and bland.
We all didI broke down in the car a year or so ago, the guy who came to collect the car said that he had dropped a car off at Gabby's house and that in the hall there were TV screens along both walls with videos playing of Gabby's goals on a repeat loop
I'm guessing it was probably playing from 128mb SD card.
Whenever i see Gabby's goals now i can't help noticing he had a fuller head of hair then.
Any more gaudy than J Lloyd 'sweet bwoi' samuels' on footballers cribs? I think he had a special room for his trainers and another one for his aftershaves? May be mistaken, apologies to him if I am.
Not one for his medals though
For those two winning goals at the Railway End, I don't begrudge him a penny he's made.
I do. I begrudge every single penny he's stolen over the last few seasons. His attitude has been a factor in the reason why he'll have the opportunity to score another goal at the Railway End next season. And, unfortunately, if he does, far too many of our supporters will forgive him for the dozens of sub-standard "performances" that have been the hallmark in recent times of this so-called fan.
It was mostly a flippant, light hearted remark. Although there is some truth in it. I realise he's a shadow of his former self (insert joke about weight gain here), but he has provided me with some great memories, and yes, I'll be over the moon if he scored a late winner at the Railway End again next season. That's not to say I'm not pissed off at how shite he's been for the past two or three seasons too.
Agbonlahor is past his best, but it's not his fault we haven't the ambition to get rid and replace him with better, and it's also not his fault that the club has been in a humiliating decline for the last 6 seasons. I'll always have a soft spot for the 70+ Premier league goals he's scored as well.
If he's selling up it must mean he's off at the end of the season.
Or,
He can now afford a house with a gym on each floor.
I seem to recall hearing a while back that he was having a new house built somewhere in Sutton Coldfield. Must be ready now then.
I seem to recall hearing a while back that he was having a new house built somewhere in Sutton Coldfield. Must be ready now then.
Unless Petrocelli is building it.
I seem to recall hearing a while back that he was having a new house built somewhere in Sutton Coldfield. Must be ready now then.
Unless Petrocelli is building it.
My dad worked on building sites where Petrocelli's work ethic was official company practice.
Gabby at 29, what a waste / waist. Couldn't help compare him on Tuesday to a consummate professional of 34 in Gareth Barry who is head and shoulders above him in everything IMO but most importantly in his attitude, our club is crying out for Heroes and he could have been one .
When David Platt was with us didn't he invite the local media to his house and pose for pictures in a room so pink it looked like the inside of Barbara Cartlands house?Jesus, thought you were going to type something else then....
When David Platt was with us didn't he invite the local media to his house and pose for pictures in a room so pink it looked like the inside of Barbara Cartlands house?Jesus, thought you were going to type something else then....
Barry got a lot of undeserved stick which I never understood. Top player and as said would be perfect for the rebuilding of Aston Villa.
I've never really agreed with all this 'he's fat' nonsense because footballers are not really but I watched him leave the field yesterday when he was subbed and he didn't so much run, he waddled. He was awful as well. The game seems to quick for him now.
I've never really agreed with all this 'he's fat' nonsense because footballers are not really but I watched him leave the field yesterday when he was subbed and he didn't so much run, he waddled. He was awful as well. The game seems to quick for him now.
He's fat compared to when O'Neill was here, he is fat compared to some of his peers of similar age bracket and physique.
He is a lean athlete with very low body fat compared to 99% of people.
Just seen the MOTD analysis of Gabby standing still rather than attempt to close down a player. Fuming. I actually hate that lazy fat fucker now. Same goes for pretty much every other wanker wearing the shirt.
And I'm sorry but Garde doesn't HAVE to pick him. Surely any kid out of the youth team could offer more. Let's face it, they couldn't offer any less.
Does Agbonlahor have an agent?. If so who represents him?
The years of the club meekly accepting the awful goal return Gabby has provided, as he effortlessly goes from contract to contract symbolise every thing which is wrong with this club - in fact, he is the poster boy for our meek acceptance of utter mediocrity.
I don't give a fuck of he supported us or Small Heath as a kid, it is a total red herring.
That clip of him waddling around on motd last night made me want to put my foot through the telly.
I can't wait till the day we finally offload him
Does Agbonlahor have an agent?. If so who represents him?
The same bloke that sells ice to eskimos and sand to the Gulf states.
When Gabby leaves. We party.
Contacts can't just be cancelled, though. Thats the point of them.
As for paying them up, I'm sure the bonus of not actually having to work for the rest of it outweighs any tax implications around a lump sum pay off.
Sounds nice for them to get their contract paid up, but there'd have been all manner of tax issue they'd have with that massive lump sum
Sounds nice for them to get their contract paid up, but there'd have been all manner of tax issue they'd have with that massive lump sum
Wouldn't it just be taxed at the highest rate of income tax, just like the overwhelming majority of his normal monthly income?
I have often contemplated that concept Rob. There has to come a time when the Bosman pendulum swings back to a less player favouring position.
I have often contemplated that concept Rob. There has to come a time when the Bosman pendulum swings back to a less player favouring position.
I'd say it's already swinging back thanks to the TV money.
Take Berahino - two transfer windows now that Albion have been turning down bids of £20m+ for a player desperate to leave and with only a year left on his contract.
That would have been unthinkable even as recently as a few years ago.
I have often contemplated that concept Rob. There has to come a time when the Bosman pendulum swings back to a less player favouring position.
I'd say it's already swinging back thanks to the TV money.
Take Berahino - two transfer windows now that Albion have been turning down bids of £20m+ for a player desperate to leave and with only a year left on his contract.
That would have been unthinkable even as recently as a few years ago.
He's playing with a smile on his face now so it wouldn't shock me if a deal as already been done and he knows he's off in the summer.
Under normal work situations, it's possible to performance manage people out the door. Maybe worth a try with some of our shitter players and could set a precedent to reign in some of the power from the players back to the clubs. Likely to end up in the courts, but worth a gamble I reckon.Absolutely! It's common practice in all well run organisations to instigate disciplinary proceedings against poor performing employees. I've seen it done on many occasions. If they don't improve after being given three chances out they go. Managers attend courses on how to do this. Surely there is a cast iron case for the Villa to begin disciplinary action against the worst of these poor performers and begin the process of managing them out the door or forcing them to show some commitment. If they don't like it, let them take the club to an employment tribunal. Just because they are on 50K a week doesn't give them any special rights over other employees, surely?
Under normal work situations, it's possible to performance manage people out the door. Maybe worth a try with some of our shitter players and could set a precedent to reign in some of the power from the players back to the clubs. Likely to end up in the courts, but worth a gamble I reckon.Absolutely! It's common practice in all well run organisations to instigate disciplinary proceedings against poor performing employees. I've seen it done on many occasions. If they don't improve after being given three chances out they go. Managers attend courses on how to do this. Surely there is a cast iron case for the Villa to begin disciplinary action against the worst of these poor performers and begin the process of managing them out the door or forcing them to show some commitment. If they don't like it, let them take the club to an employment tribunal. Just because they are on 50K a week doesn't give them any special rights over other employees, surely?
I understand that proving it might be problematic, as quantifying acceptable on pitch performance could be subjective if not properly evidenced. However, if the manager has a game plan that is communicated to players and they choose to ignore it and simply stroll around the pitch in aimless fashion as we saw on Saturday, then to challenge that refusal to follow a workplace instruction would make a charge of poor performance possible. I'm sure that there would be sufficient video evidence to support such a charge in the current on pitch situation at Villa. After all, the principle of 'beyond all reasonable doubt' doesn't apply in workplace disciplinary situation as it does in a court of law. What is in question is 'Couldn't they do it?' or 'Wouldn't they do it?'. I think we know what answer applies to the lazy gits currently wearing the Villa shirt.Under normal work situations, it's possible to performance manage people out the door. Maybe worth a try with some of our shitter players and could set a precedent to reign in some of the power from the players back to the clubs. Likely to end up in the courts, but worth a gamble I reckon.Absolutely! It's common practice in all well run organisations to instigate disciplinary proceedings against poor performing employees. I've seen it done on many occasions. If they don't improve after being given three chances out they go. Managers attend courses on how to do this. Surely there is a cast iron case for the Villa to begin disciplinary action against the worst of these poor performers and begin the process of managing them out the door or forcing them to show some commitment. If they don't like it, let them take the club to an employment tribunal. Just because they are on 50K a week doesn't give them any special rights over other employees, surely?
In theory that'd be lovely, but two things come to mind. Firstly it's one thing for the fans to say players aren't trying, and clearly some of them aren't, but legally proving that a tribunal would be impossible. If they turn up for training and the play when asked they're 'doing their job'. Secondly earning thousands of pounds a week might not but you anymore rights, but it can buy you a very good lawyer who would win their case hands down. It's annoying, but those parasitic players hold all the cards. Also to an extent the club has itself to blame, they gave Agbonlahor a new deal.
There were a couple of occasions in the game at Man City when Gabby looked like he might be on the move but then after a moment of calm reflection he opted to play "plump statues" and remained on the spot. It did confuse the City defenders since they had expected something different and it took a while for them to realise this was not a "cunning ploy."
Under normal work situations, it's possible to performance manage people out the door. Maybe worth a try with some of our shitter players and could set a precedent to reign in some of the power from the players back to the clubs. Likely to end up in the courts, but worth a gamble I reckon.Absolutely! It's common practice in all well run organisations to instigate disciplinary proceedings against poor performing employees. I've seen it done on many occasions. If they don't improve after being given three chances out they go. Managers attend courses on how to do this. Surely there is a cast iron case for the Villa to begin disciplinary action against the worst of these poor performers and begin the process of managing them out the door or forcing them to show some commitment. If they don't like it, let them take the club to an employment tribunal. Just because they are on 50K a week doesn't give them any special rights over other employees, surely?
In theory that'd be lovely, but two things come to mind. Firstly it's one thing for the fans to say players aren't trying, and clearly some of them aren't, but legally proving that a tribunal would be impossible. If they turn up for training and the play when asked they're 'doing their job'. Secondly earning thousands of pounds a week might not but you anymore rights, but it can buy you a very good lawyer who would win their case hands down. It's annoying, but those parasitic players hold all the cards. Also to an extent the club has itself to blame, they gave Agbonlahor a new deal.
There were a couple of occasions in the game at Man City when Gabby looked like he might be on the move but then after a moment of calm reflection he opted to play "plump statues" and remained on the spot. It did confuse the City defenders since they had expected something different and it took a while for them to realise this was not a "cunning ploy."
This is true but you could use measurables so for example each player could be weighed have their body fat index taken etc. Set targets to reach within a fair timeframe and then monitored on an ongoing basis. The opta index for the number of yards covered during a match could be another etc. Take out the opinion and try to stick with facts.Under normal work situations, it's possible to performance manage people out the door. Maybe worth a try with some of our shitter players and could set a precedent to reign in some of the power from the players back to the clubs. Likely to end up in the courts, but worth a gamble I reckon.Absolutely! It's common practice in all well run organisations to instigate disciplinary proceedings against poor performing employees. I've seen it done on many occasions. If they don't improve after being given three chances out they go. Managers attend courses on how to do this. Surely there is a cast iron case for the Villa to begin disciplinary action against the worst of these poor performers and begin the process of managing them out the door or forcing them to show some commitment. If they don't like it, let them take the club to an employment tribunal. Just because they are on 50K a week doesn't give them any special rights over other employees, surely?
In theory that'd be lovely, but two things come to mind. Firstly it's one thing for the fans to say players aren't trying, and clearly some of them aren't, but legally proving that a tribunal would be impossible. If they turn up for training and the play when asked they're 'doing their job'. Secondly earning thousands of pounds a week might not but you anymore rights, but it can buy you a very good lawyer who would win their case hands down. It's annoying, but those parasitic players hold all the cards. Also to an extent the club has itself to blame, they gave Agbonlahor a new deal.
Sadly, I fear you may be right on this. It hurts though, doesn't it?
Can't recall the last time I saw Gabby on the move.
Can't recall the last time I saw Gabby on the move.
When there was a sale at Greggs.
Complete non story. How dare young people go out and enjoy themselves when they have down time? They are not grooming children or wearing gimp masks. Good old newspapers eh.Could they not wait 8 more weeks though? They'll have a whole summer to relax, party, and then find another club. The fuckers should be locked in a dungeon and flogged.
I know it's frustrating Tom as they are arrogant, overpaid people who can afford to fly all the way out to Dubai to party and they just happen to play for our football club and appear to be less than enthusiastic in their performances. But, they are entitled to live their lives.To be honest if it was Ayew or Gana or someone who's put the yards in, I wouldn't bat an eye-lid, but it's entirely unsurprising that it's a pair of pillocks like Richards and Gabby living it up. Still the other way to look at it, is if they shite all their money away at expensive Dubai nightclubs they'll hit 40 and suddenly find themselves ringing Lee Hendrie for advice.
Gabby's stationary dance moves are very reminiscent of how he playsCrouch is known for his robot dance. I wonder if there's a dance called the "fuck off." Gabby should learn it and do it all the way to whichever League One club will pick him up.
Complete non story. How dare young people go out and enjoy themselves when they have down time? They are not grooming children or wearing gimp masks. Good old newspapers eh.
Complete non story. How dare young people go out and enjoy themselves when they have down time? They are not grooming children or wearing gimp masks. Good old newspapers eh.
They are professional footballers and should be dedicated to their job during the football season. Meanwhile in Germany, a journeyman footballer has pulled himself up from non league to Halifax, Fleetwood and Leicester and now stands on the brink of being the frontman for England in Euro 2016. Despite being no angel, I bet he has never spent a weekend flying 3,500 miles for a couple of nights out during the season. These people are an utter disgrace to their profession and it's another insult to supporters of Aston Villa.
It's international week. I'm not good enough to play for my country and my club is in or around the relegation zone, do I (a) put in extra training to improve my own career prospects and/or the outlook for my club; or (b) fly several time zones to blow a hefty wedge on a piss up in nightclub? Well, it's a no-brainer for the no-brainers.I think it also confirms that Remi's a dead man walking. There doesn't seem like much will at the club right now to do (a). Most of our squad wouldn't piss on Remi if he was on fire. Frankly I'm in Remi's corner if it's down to a battle of wills, but the man has to go now, for his own sake as much as ours.
Still, if nothing else it confirms where they'll all be going if the Premier League every succumbs to the pressure from Wenger, Klopp et al and introduces a winter break.
It's international week. I'm not good enough to play for my country and my club is in or around the relegation zone, do I (a) put in extra training to improve my own career prospects and/or the outlook for my club; or (b) fly several time zones to blow a hefty wedge on a piss up in nightclub? Well, it's a no-brainer for the no-brainers.I think it also confirms that Remi's a dead man walking. There doesn't seem like much will at the club right now to do (a). Most of our squad wouldn't piss on Remi if he was on fire. Frankly I'm in Remi's corner if it's down to a battle of wills, but the man has to go now, for his own sake as much as ours.
Still, if nothing else it confirms where they'll all be going if the Premier League every succumbs to the pressure from Wenger, Klopp et al and introduces a winter break.
Look at the three most shitely run clubs in the Premier League with the most appalling levels of professionalism from the squads and it's no surprise to see them occupying the bottom three. Shambles all of them. At least it seems (fingers crossed) that we're sorting it out now. I also hope in the summer we get rid of the most criminal shysters in our playing squad. Gabby is top of the list. Richards isn't far off.
Gabby in Space?Isn't Gabby visible from space?
At least the Palace lads are well turned out, Gabby has flown half way around the world to what seems to be one of the worlds most exclusive nightclubs and he looks like he's getting ready to change the oil in his car.
He's dressed how I imagine Forrest Gump would be if he made a rap video.At least the Palace lads are well turned out, Gabby has flown half way around the world to what seems to be one of the worlds most exclusive nightclubs and he looks like he's getting ready to change the oil in his car.
He really wears the same gear all the time. Man who is almost 30 still feels the need to always wear a baseball cap and backwards to show the women how cool he is. They're all thinking "look at that incoherent knob"
Isn't the main reason he's wearing that cap these days is down to his ever receding hairline.I'm just waiting for him to superglue some stray pubes on his head like Rooney.
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#AVFC A lovely picture of Gabby Agbonlahor celebrating 1 goal in 12 months with a well-earned cigar -
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CepXd59W8AA6BHX.jpg)
Isn't the main reason he's wearing that cap these days is down to his ever receding hairline.
Take a good look at that picture and tell me Remi Garde ever had a chance with the players who were dumped on him.
It's not just Villa fans on here that have been calling him out for his lack of effort though
a mark of a Villa fan is that even if a player is crap if he puts in the effort and desire they will get behind him
effort and desire do seem to be words missing in his make-up
At times Gabby has been a decent player for us. Yes, he's no sensation but has in spells really helped us out.
I think calling him out for poor form is fair enough and I understand his body language can make him look like he's not busting a gut - although in fairness he's always had that style. But the vitriol on here is remarkable. I appreciate it's difficult time to be a Villa fan, but laying into him like this really does make us look like a bunch of c***s.
I don't think we're being too harsh on him. If anything he's got away with doing virtually fuck all for 5 years now with prettymuch no stick from the fans. Most likely be because he's a local lad.
Pundits such as Neville and Shearer have both called him out this season for his laziness; something that we already knew.
Add to this his pathetic "that's for all the haters" tweet after his annual goal, and him going off during the Liverpool drubbing when he didn't fancy it, and for me, Gabby can just do one.
He could've been a legend. Now I can't stand the sight of him.
It's not just Villa fans on here that have been calling him out for his lack of effort thoughi agree- players like bernie Gallagher and Paul birch spring to mind. Neither great players, but always gave 110%. Lack of talent is understandable, excusable even, but lack of effort isn't at all, especially given our current plight.
a mark of a Villa fan is that even if a player is crap if he puts in the effort and desire they will get behind him
effort and desire do seem to be words missing in his make-up
Chris I have often thought this. They appear to like a good scapegoat.But when the scapegoat is in fact a significant overall contributor to the problems at the club it is difficult to find anything to defend him on.
I couldn't care less that he looks like he's a simpleton, I'm bothered that he's swanning through his career here, taking the piss, taking 8 touches, scoring once a year and giving it the big one, he's just a useless cretin plain and simple and if we'd sorted ourselves out as a club at anytime during this decade he would have been fucked off as an over paid waster.
He is a cretin.
He is a cretin.
Is it really that hard for you to understand the point I am making?
He is a cretin.
Is it really that hard for you to understand the point I am making?
Cretin
1 informal, offensive A stupid person (used as a general term of abuse).
2 Medicine , dated A person who is physically deformed and has learning difficulties because of congenital thyroid deficiency.
Which definition do you really think I meant?
I've met Gabby, I'm sure others have as well on here. He's not the sharpest tool in the box.
I think the abuse of the player goes too far and is unnecessary.He is a cretin.
Is it really that hard for you to understand the point I am making?
Your point being calling a piss taking waster who's done numerous stupid things the last 5 years a cretin makes me a c***?
I think the abuse of the player goes too far and is unnecessary.He is a cretin.
Is it really that hard for you to understand the point I am making?
Your point being calling a piss taking waster who's done numerous stupid things the last 5 years a cretin makes me a c***?
He is a cretin.
Is it really that hard for you to understand the point I am making?
I can't stand the guy and think he is a complete plank. We need to be careful with the word cretin though as pointed out by a H&V poster a while ago it refers to a specific medical condition. I think said poster was pointing to this as a family member suffered from the condition.
I think I'm safe to call him a plank though. Really looking forward to the day he drives his silly expensive car out of Bodymoor for the last time.
I think the abuse of the player goes too far and is unnecessary.He is a cretin.
Is it really that hard for you to understand the point I am making?
Your point being calling a piss taking waster who's done numerous stupid things the last 5 years a cretin makes me a c***?
Either way, it's not very pleasant and my general point that the abuse has gone overboard still stands.
Either way, it's not very pleasant and my general point that the abuse has gone overboard still stands.
I very much doubt that.Either way, it's not very pleasant and my general point that the abuse has gone overboard still stands.
You could probably use the word cretin on daytime radio, but not the word you accused Villa fans of being a bunch of. So who's gone overboard?
Christ, Gregg Evans is a thick twat.
I very much doubt that.Either way, it's not very pleasant and my general point that the abuse has gone overboard still stands.
You could probably use the word cretin on daytime radio, but not the word you accused Villa fans of being a bunch of. So who's gone overboard?
Are you also a professional "athlete"?
Are you also a professional "athlete"?
With a cigar in his mouthAre you also a professional "athlete"?
I'd back john to mark Agbonlahor out of a game! And to get past Richards at right back.
Are you also a professional "athlete"?
I very much doubt that.Either way, it's not very pleasant and my general point that the abuse has gone overboard still stands.
You could probably use the word cretin on daytime radio, but not the word you accused Villa fans of being a bunch of. So who's gone overboard?
A list of BBC banned words (http://www.badscience.net/2006/03/c***-fuck-wanker/)
Cretin
1 informal, offensive A stupid person (used as a general term of abuse).
2 Medicine , dated A person who is physically deformed and has learning difficulties because of congenital thyroid deficiency.
Which definition do you really think I meant?
I've met Gabby, I'm sure others have as well on here. He's not the sharpest tool in the box.
Chris I have often thought this. They appear to like a good scapegoat.
Villa means more to me than it does to either of those pair but I have to confess even I had a weekend off from thinking, talking or worrying about football and work as well.
Much-needed and enjoyable it was too.
More like 5 years.Villa means more to me than it does to either of those pair but I have to confess even I had a weekend off from thinking, talking or worrying about football and work as well.
Much-needed and enjoyable it was too.
Gabby's had about 12 months off work, not just a weekend
Gabby only thinks about himself. Which was evident after his last goal, his Instagram post was all about silencing haters. Nothing about scoring and getting points for the club.
I can't wait until the useless prick has fucked off.
Gabby only thinks about himself. Which was evident after his last goal, his Instagram post was all about silencing haters. Nothing about scoring and getting points for the club.Except the haters aren't silenced (evidence; this thread) and the best way to have done so would have been to score more goals.
There seems to be a lot of people getting their knickers in a twist over a couple of Villa employees going out a week before their next match.
Villa means more to me than it does to either of those pair but I have to confess even I had a weekend off from thinking, talking or worrying about football and work as well.
Much-needed and enjoyable it was too.
Gabby only thinks about himself. Which was evident after his last goal, his Instagram post was all about silencing haters. Nothing about scoring and getting points for the club.Except the haters aren't silenced (evidence; this thread) and the best way to have done so would have been to score more goals.
But no, one goal a season (and counting) is the way to silence the haters.
As for going to Dubai, well, if he left training late on Friday morning knowing that he wasn't expected back until Monday morning, then I don't see the issue. Local flights go direct three times a day, including an overnight flight so its do-able. If he wants to spunk £20 a drink and smoke cigars in a place not bound by the EU's laws on indoor smoking then good luck to him. He's not the first and won't be the last.
There's plenty more to hate about where he is concerned. The aforementioned lack of goals, perceived lack of effort in games, the various rumours I've heard about effort/attendance at training...
I doubt it.Gabby only thinks about himself. Which was evident after his last goal, his Instagram post was all about silencing haters. Nothing about scoring and getting points for the club.Except the haters aren't silenced (evidence; this thread) and the best way to have done so would have been to score more goals.
But no, one goal a season (and counting) is the way to silence the haters.
As for going to Dubai, well, if he left training late on Friday morning knowing that he wasn't expected back until Monday morning, then I don't see the issue. Local flights go direct three times a day, including an overnight flight so its do-able. If he wants to spunk £20 a drink and smoke cigars in a place not bound by the EU's laws on indoor smoking then good luck to him. He's not the first and won't be the last.
There's plenty more to hate about where he is concerned. The aforementioned lack of goals, perceived lack of effort in games, the various rumours I've heard about effort/attendance at training...
The break might do him the world of good. I'm sure he'll be back at training today, refreshed and ready to start banging goals in again
I don't hate Gabby more than the other players; I hate them all equally.
And I think they're c***s*.
*Actually the only ones I hate are Agbonglahor, Richards, Lescott and Guzan.
Can I just register my contempt for this piss-taking charlatan, Flabby OnegoalaYear? Cheers!The registration queue is pretty long, so I hope you don't mind a wait.
I watched Mark Noble's testimonial yesterday on TV in front of a full house at the Boleyn. Wonder how many will turn up for Gabby's???
I watched Mark Noble's testimonial yesterday on TV in front of a full house at the Boleyn. Wonder how many will turn up for Gabby's???
I watched Mark Noble's testimonial yesterday on TV in front of a full house at the Boleyn. Wonder how many will turn up for Gabby's???There'd only be a row of 20 something single mothers looking after his kids who turn up to get some cash from him.
No other football for BT to show. I saw ten minutes and it made me quite sad. It is the kind of feelgood day that engenders togetherness in the club that we had in the Sheffield United match of free scarf fame.
I watched Mark Noble's testimonial yesterday on TV in front of a full house at the Boleyn. Wonder how many will turn up for Gabby's???
I have to ask, what on earth were you doing watching Mark Noble's testimonial?
At times Gabby has been a decent player for us. Yes, he's no sensation but has in spells really helped us out.
I think calling him out for poor form is fair enough and I understand his body language can make him look like he's not busting a gut - although in fairness he's always had that style. But the vitriol on here is remarkable. I appreciate it's difficult time to be a Villa fan, but laying into him like this really does make us look like a bunch of c***s.
I watched Mark Noble's testimonial yesterday on TV in front of a full house at the Boleyn. Wonder how many will turn up for Gabby's???
I have to ask, what on earth were you doing watching Mark Noble's testimonial?
I was a bit bored to be honest and had the 'inlaws' around for lunch...
At times Gabby has been a decent player for us. Yes, he's no sensation but has in spells really helped us out.
I think calling him out for poor form is fair enough and I understand his body language can make him look like he's not busting a gut - although in fairness he's always had that style. But the vitriol on here is remarkable. I appreciate it's difficult time to be a Villa fan, but laying into him like this really does make us look like a bunch of c***s.
I can't let this remark pass.
We look like c***s for calling the wanker to account? ...
I think calling him out for poor form is fair enough..
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I watched Mark Noble's testimonial yesterday on TV in front of a full house at the Boleyn. Wonder how many will turn up for Gabby's???
I have to ask, what on earth were you doing watching Mark Noble's testimonial?
I was a bit bored to be honest and had the 'inlaws' around for lunch...
Gutted I missed it, as is LeeB no doubt! ;)
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQadgzW_nLbzESTnuXSr193GTSpnbNuomvQFQyOg4Rvf76QgHyFwg)At times Gabby has been a decent player for us. Yes, he's no sensation but has in spells really helped us out.
I think calling him out for poor form is fair enough and I understand his body language can make him look like he's not busting a gut - although in fairness he's always had that style. But the vitriol on here is remarkable. I appreciate it's difficult time to be a Villa fan, but laying into him like this really does make us look like a bunch of c***s.
I can't let this remark pass.
We look like c***s for calling the wanker to account? I don't give 2 shots about his hairline or mathematical problem solving ability. I do however about....
The dyed in the wool Villa man who swans around not giving two shiny shites about our performance and how he may influence it.
The man whose influence as a senior player in the dressing room has resulted in mass insubordination on the ranks.
A man who scores twice a season and thinks us ungrateful for not expecting more for our 50 grand a week.
A player who is so professional he was allowed a trip to America to get fit that involved an eating plan. He didn't follow it and came back fatter than he was before he left.
A wanker that laughs every time he misses an easy one on one.
Who targets "haters" for their calling out he is a waste of space.
Who is the proudest man in the world to captain us until asked to actually work at his trade and set a standard others can follow.
Who is responsible in part as Grealish's role model for him this year.
I won't pick on his looks, or even that he is as bright as a turd after ten pints of Guinness.
What I can say is he is a fraud. An overweight fucking excuse for a professional, dining out on what he did as a kid, and more interested in "the life" than being the best he can.
Someone mentioned Mark Noble, West ham and his testimonial. If the wife would let me get away with it, I would make sure I didn't wake up until 5pm to miss his.
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Well said Chris.
Flabby onegoalayear? I like it. Sing it. Make it happen.Flabby,
I don't tend to go for insulting name calling with him as I appreciate some of his goals in the past. But he is so far past his best it's ridiculous. He shouldn't be anywhere near the first team squad the last couple of year. He really is stealing a living from us these days, although I think it's unfair when people say he isn't in shape. Round is a shape after all.Maybe he'll turn to Sumo in a couple of years. He's just starting the ball rolling.
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(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQadgzW_nLbzESTnuXSr193GTSpnbNuomvQFQyOg4Rvf76QgHyFwg)At times Gabby has been a decent player for us. Yes, he's no sensation but has in spells really helped us out.
I think calling him out for poor form is fair enough and I understand his body language can make him look like he's not busting a gut - although in fairness he's always had that style. But the vitriol on here is remarkable. I appreciate it's difficult time to be a Villa fan, but laying into him like this really does make us look like a bunch of c***s.
I can't let this remark pass.
We look like c***s for calling the wanker to account? I don't give 2 shots about his hairline or mathematical problem solving ability. I do however about....
The dyed in the wool Villa man who swans around not giving two shiny shites about our performance and how he may influence it.
The man whose influence as a senior player in the dressing room has resulted in mass insubordination on the ranks.
A man who scores twice a season and thinks us ungrateful for not expecting more for our 50 grand a week.
A player who is so professional he was allowed a trip to America to get fit that involved an eating plan. He didn't follow it and came back fatter than he was before he left.
A wanker that laughs every time he misses an easy one on one.
Who targets "haters" for their calling out he is a waste of space.
Who is the proudest man in the world to captain us until asked to actually work at his trade and set a standard others can follow.
Who is responsible in part as Grealish's role model for him this year.
I won't pick on his looks, or even that he is as bright as a turd after ten pints of Guinness.
What I can say is he is a fraud. An overweight fucking excuse for a professional, dining out on what he did as a kid, and more interested in "the life" than being the best he can.
Someone mentioned Mark Noble, West ham and his testimonial. If the wife would let me get away with it, I would make sure I didn't wake up until 5pm to miss his.
Gabriel Agbonlahor snapped with shisha pipe during mid-season trip http://dailym.ai/1PFcPpA via http://dailym.ai/android
a cigar wasnt enough
Gabriel Agbonlahor snapped with shisha pipe during mid-season trip http://dailym.ai/1PFcPpA via http://dailym.ai/android
a cigar wasnt enough
He probably smokes to help keep his weight down.
He's always been a limited player with no real technical ability, his pace saved him & O'Neill got the best out of his only useful asset.
2008 was probably the last time he ever looked like he could be something.
Just look at him. Not a care in the world.Gabriel Agbonlahor snapped with shisha pipe during mid-season trip http://dailym.ai/1PFcPpA via http://dailym.ai/android
a cigar wasnt enough
He probably smokes to help keep his weight down.
Just look at him. Not a care in the world.Gabriel Agbonlahor snapped with shisha pipe during mid-season trip http://dailym.ai/1PFcPpA via http://dailym.ai/android
a cigar wasnt enough
He probably smokes to help keep his weight down.
c***
He's untouchable and he knows it.
Was trying to think of the notable club captains in my time supporting the villa came up with:
Charlie Aitken
Ian Ross
Chris Nicholl
Dennis Mortimer
Allan Evans
Kevin Richardson
Andy Townsend
Gareth Southgate
Gareth Barry
Olaf Mellberg
Stan Petrov
Now we have this chancer. Should never have played again after Spurs away but since then we have had him strolling round the Etihad and faking injury against Liverpool (vertigo my arse), and now this. Can you imagine a worse role model at the club when we have been crying out for proper leadership.
The ultimate poster boy for the last 5 years.This is true.
Amateurish, self indulgent, wasted money, wasted potential, waste of time. Started off settling for a mediocrity which has since disappeared over the horizon and is now distressingly out of reach.
I wonder if things might have turned out differently had we built on the team he played for under MON, rather then employ a succession of appalling managers and signed inferior players season after season while selling our better ones.
At the same time as the day to day running of the club was placed in the hands of one incompetent after another.
Fuck this bell end off in the Summer even if we have to pay his contract up.
More shame on the club with the Daily Star's front page headline about Gabby's 7 hour party in Dubai drinking Champagne and smoking a hookah pipe! He just doesn't give a toss, does he?
More shame on the club with the Daily Star's front page headline about Gabby's 7 hour party in Dubai drinking Champagne and smoking a hookah pipe! He just doesn't give a toss, does he?
He knows exactly what he's doing.
This.More shame on the club with the Daily Star's front page headline about Gabby's 7 hour party in Dubai drinking Champagne and smoking a hookah pipe! He just doesn't give a toss, does he?
He knows exactly what he's doing.
That's the real point; hopefully not lost on Bernstein, Little & Hollis (that well-known firm of lawyers).
Total disrespect for the club
I think it's quite sad that when he does finally leave, please let it be soon, he'll be going with what should be very fond memories of what he did in the past tainted by how much he's pissed me off in recent years.
I think it's quite sad that when he does finally leave, please let it be soon, he'll be going with what should be very fond memories of what he did in the past tainted by how much he's pissed me off in recent years.
If they decide to pay him off and kick him out it will cost about 4 mil by my reckoning. Mind you maths was never my strongest subject!
Cant see it happening I'm afraid.
I think it's quite sad that when he does finally leave, please let it be soon, he'll be going with what should be very fond memories of what he did in the past tainted by how much he's pissed me off in recent years.I'm hoping time will heal that, because you're spot on.
I think it's quite sad that when he does finally leave, please let it be soon, he'll be going with what should be very fond memories of what he did in the past tainted by how much he's pissed me off in recent years.
If they decide to pay him off and kick him out it will cost about 4 mil by my reckoning. Mind you maths was never my strongest subject!
Cant see it happening I'm afraid.
When did he sign his new deal, and when does his contract end?
More shame on the club with the Daily Star's front page headline about Gabby's 7 hour party in Dubai drinking Champagne and smoking a hookah pipe! He just doesn't give a toss, does he?
He knows exactly what he's doing.
I think he must've watched the last episode of Better Call Saul.
More shame on the club with the Daily Star's front page headline about Gabby's 7 hour party in Dubai drinking Champagne and smoking a hookah pipe! He just doesn't give a toss, does he?
He knows exactly what he's doing.
I think he must've watched the last episode of Better Call Saul.There was one major difference: Jimmy's boss paid him off to get rid of him. Lerner isn't likely to.
Of all the idiotic decisions the club has made, the one to give that turd Agbonlahor a new contract is right up there with the worst of them.
I think it's quite sad that when he does finally leave, please let it be soon, he'll be going with what should be very fond memories of what he did in the past tainted by how much he's pissed me off in recent years.
If they decide to pay him off and kick him out it will cost about 4 mil by my reckoning. Mind you maths was never my strongest subject!
Cant see it happening I'm afraid.
When did he sign his new deal, and when does his contract end?
Of all the idiotic decisions the club has made, the one to give that turd Agbonlahor a new contract is right up there with the worst of them.
Him, Bacuna, Westwood and Lambert. Blimey.
The general concensus is that Gabby has brought the club into disrepute with his reported antics. Would this be a legitimate excuse for terminating his contract?I can't see how he has brought the club into disrepute tho his latest antics have all been in his own time & away from AVFC.
The general concensus is that Gabby has brought the club into disrepute with his reported antics. Would this be a legitimate excuse for terminating his contract?I can't see how he has brought the club into disrepute tho his latest antics have all been in his own time & away from AVFC.
He's brought the game of football into disrepute every time he set foot on the pitch.
He's brought the game of football into disrepute every time he set foot on the pitch.
Every time Chris?
Oswald, you state the following
"what bothers me most is the fact that even early in his career there were limitations to his game and over the years both he and the club have done absolutely nothing about it"
From the facts we know about him, that statement is totally incorrect, I should imagine the club have tried with manager after manager being the main instigator of trying to get improvement out of Gabby, someone stated earlier about his diet being set up for him when he was receiving treatment in America and he then totally ignores it and comes back with excess weight, what Gabby lacks in the normal mental capacity, he makes up for in being the type of character to bleed and exploit any opportunity that makes his life easier, as a country we are quite lucky that Aston Villa have been paying this person for the last god knows how many years and from that the state has received tax and NI, because if not the British Tax Payer would have been paying him, because if there is not a clearer example of made for Benefit Street than Gabby I am yet to see it.
Because we were stupid enough to sign an extended contract with him.
totally agree Oswald, lets hope he gets fucked off......but why should we pay the waste of space???
Im sure some people think they should all live like monks and only be seen fell running and doing squat thrusts away from Villa Park.
Im sure some people think they should all live like monks and only be seen fell running and doing squat thrusts away from Villa Park.
No, you're right. Drinking, smoking and returning to work on a transatlantic flight hours before training is exactly the best way for a supposedly top level athlete to keep in shape during the season. Why should we expect the players to be in the best physical condition for work they can?
My fav Villa player Paul Mcgrath used to be half cut during matches, another one used to be high as a kite. Fortunately no one had camera phones in those days otherwise Im sure the Macca and Merse threads would be prime time HBO material. The tabloids are just fuelling the fire, Gabby hasn't done anything wrong here yet we're judging him like he's Adam Johnson.Im sure some people think they should all live like monks and only be seen fell running and doing squat thrusts away from Villa Park.
No, you're right. Drinking, smoking and returning to work on a transatlantic flight hours before training is exactly the best way for a supposedly top level athlete to keep in shape during the season. Why should we expect the players to be in the best physical condition for work they can?
My fav Villa player Paul Mcgrath used to be half cut during matches, another one used to be high as a kite. Fortunately no one had camera phones in those days otherwise Im sure the Macca and Merse threads would be prime time HBO material. The tabloids are just fuelling the fire, Gabby hasn't done anything wrong here yet we're judging him like he's Adam Johnson.Im sure some people think they should all live like monks and only be seen fell running and doing squat thrusts away from Villa Park.
No, you're right. Drinking, smoking and returning to work on a transatlantic flight hours before training is exactly the best way for a supposedly top level athlete to keep in shape during the season. Why should we expect the players to be in the best physical condition for work they can?
My fav Villa player Paul Mcgrath used to be half cut during matches, another one used to be high as a kite. Fortunately no one had camera phones in those days otherwise Im sure the Macca and Merse threads would be prime time HBO material. The tabloids are just fuelling the fire, Gabby hasn't done anything wrong here yet we're judging him like he's Adam Johnson.Im sure some people think they should all live like monks and only be seen fell running and doing squat thrusts away from Villa Park.
No, you're right. Drinking, smoking and returning to work on a transatlantic flight hours before training is exactly the best way for a supposedly top level athlete to keep in shape during the season. Why should we expect the players to be in the best physical condition for work they can?
Because we were stupid enough to sign an extended contract with him.
That one is on Lambert.
Is there any grounds for gross misconduct and canceling his contract?
Sure, we'd have him on a technicality but the quicker and cheaper he's booted from the club the better, he's brought this ill feeling all on himself.
Im sure some people think they should all live like monks and only be seen fell running and doing squat thrusts away from Villa Park.
No, you're right. Drinking, smoking and returning to work on a transatlantic flight hours before training is exactly the best way for a supposedly top level athlete to keep in shape during the season. Why should we expect the players to be in the best physical condition for work they can?
Im sure some people think they should all live like monks and only be seen fell running and doing squat thrusts away from Villa Park.
No, you're right. Drinking, smoking and returning to work on a transatlantic flight hours before training is exactly the best way for a supposedly top level athlete to keep in shape during the season. Why should we expect the players to be in the best physical condition for work they can?
He really is thick if he got a transatlantic flight back from Dubai.
Suspended, pending internal investigation.All they'll find in there are cheeseburgers and cigar smoke.
can't we just sack him off and then see what happens at a tribunal or is that totally mad - like paying this now sack of shit millions a year.
Let's hope they can find even the smallest reason to sack him.
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If we could get rid for under a million it would be great business
I imagine that when the contract was offered to Agnes that such was the rampant administrative lunacy at the club that is was perceived by officials that Agnes was a totemic figure who was respected by the fans and that offering him a long term contract would keep an increasingly disgruntled bunch of supporters on side.
IIRC, wasn't there an uproar at Agbonlahor being given a new contract when it was first made public, only to be put on the back burner until it could be re-introduced the following season?
At last some good news.
Hope they discover Richards took the rest of the squad to a crack den and brothel as part of a team building exercise.
Selfish and Lazy and Greedy.... And thick. What a stupid thick idiot. Good for nothing and would probably be on benefits (only lazy stupid people are on benefits, Channel 5 told me). And even more annoyingly, he is also very clever and intelligent, capable of leading a cunning machiavellian campaign to rule the changing room and BH in order to undermine various managers and ultimately bring down the club. A very very clever stupid idiot.I love this post. Gabby may be past it now, but I remember all the happy times he provided. I don't think he deserves the abuse he gets on here.
Or some might say he's just a bloke living his life, making mistakes in an intense (but ultimately meaningless) football environment. Probably trying his best and maybe not worthy of such hostility or being called a c**t by supporters of the club he has always played for and also supports.
No way. Hate him. Hate, hate , hate, hate, hate, HATE..
At last some good news.
Hope they discover Richards took the rest of the squad to a crack den and brothel as part of a team building exercise.
No one is saying we aren't grateful for some of the genuinely great moments he gave us during the good times - albeit brief.Er.....just realised I posted my previous comment before reading the last couple of pages of the thread, I genuinely didn't know about the Dubai thing. Talk about being thick. Anyway, still think he gets far too much stick though.
But if you are seriously suggesting the behaviour of him a senior professional and a lifelong supporter of the club isn't cnutish during our hour of greatest need then with all due respect you're wrong.
This is an example of player power at its absolute worst and is a direct causal link to the abject shitness that has engulfed the club in the last five years.
I seriously doubt that he supports the Villa
Selfish and Lazy and Greedy.... And thick. What a stupid thick idiot. Good for nothing and would probably be on benefits (only lazy stupid people are on benefits, Channel 5 told me). And even more annoyingly, he is also very clever and intelligent, capable of leading a cunning machiavellian campaign to rule the changing room and BH in order to undermine various managers and ultimately bring down the club. A very very clever stupid idiot.
Or some might say he's just a bloke living his life, making mistakes in an intense (but ultimately meaningless) football environment. Probably trying his best and maybe not worthy of such hostility or being called a c**t by supporters of the club he has always played for and also supports.
No way. Hate him. Hate, hate , hate, hate, hate, HATE..
Selfish and Lazy and Greedy.... And thick. What a stupid thick idiot. Good for nothing and would probably be on benefits (only lazy stupid people are on benefits, Channel 5 told me). And even more annoyingly, he is also very clever and intelligent, capable of leading a cunning machiavellian campaign to rule the changing room and BH in order to undermine various managers and ultimately bring down the club. A very very clever stupid idiot.
Or some might say he's just a bloke living his life, making mistakes in an intense (but ultimately meaningless) football environment. Probably trying his best and maybe not worthy of such hostility or being called a c**t by supporters of the club he has always played for and also supports.
No way. Hate him. Hate, hate , hate, hate, hate, HATE..
You do realise that was the best part of 10 yrs ago .
& as a premier league (best league in the world) striker he has scored the grand total of 28 goals in 6 seasons since 2010.
I don't care who he supports just want to see some bloody effort
I don't care who he supports just want to see some bloody effort
I don't. I just want him gone.
Selfish and Lazy and Greedy.... And thick. What a stupid thick idiot. Good for nothing and would probably be on benefits (only lazy stupid people are on benefits, Channel 5 told me). And even more annoyingly, he is also very clever and intelligent, capable of leading a cunning machiavellian campaign to rule the changing room and BH in order to undermine various managers and ultimately bring down the club. A very very clever stupid idiot.
Or some might say he's just a bloke living his life, making mistakes in an intense (but ultimately meaningless) football environment. Probably trying his best and maybe not worthy of such hostility or being called a c**t by supporters of the club he has always played for and also supports.
No way. Hate him. Hate, hate , hate, hate, hate, HATE..
You do realise that was the best part of 10 yrs ago .
& as a premier league (best league in the world) striker he has scored the grand total of 28 goals in 6 seasons since 2010.
6 years - approximately 15m in wages directly from the club.
So £450k per goal.
Selfish and Lazy and Greedy.... And thick. What a stupid thick idiot. Good for nothing and would probably be on benefits (only lazy stupid people are on benefits, Channel 5 told me). And even more annoyingly, he is also very clever and intelligent, capable of leading a cunning machiavellian campaign to rule the changing room and BH in order to undermine various managers and ultimately bring down the club. A very very clever stupid idiot.
Or some might say he's just a bloke living his life, making mistakes in an intense (but ultimately meaningless) football environment. Probably trying his best and maybe not worthy of such hostility or being called a c**t by supporters of the club he has always played for and also supports.
No way. Hate him. Hate, hate , hate, hate, hate, HATE..
There you have it from the keyboard of stuart r. He once scored a winner against the Blues so we should be eternally grateful and forever indulge his every whim.
That's a bit reminiscent of what that lot do with the likes of Paul Tait. And, quite rightly, we accuse them of being obsessed and small-time.
There you have it from the keyboard of stuart r. He once scored a winner against the Blues so we should be eternally grateful and forever indulge his every whim.
That's a bit reminiscent of what that lot do with the likes of Paul Tait. And, quite rightly, we accuse them of being obsessed and small-time.
Jeez did my keyboard really say that? Or did the keyboard of TopDeck113 infer that my keyboard said that? You little rascal TopDeck113's keyboard.
What does small-time mean? I mean, I know what it means, but when you say it a few times it just starts to sound daft doesn't it?... Small time.... small.... time.. The time is small.. Small-time.
Selfish and Lazy and Greedy.... And thick. What a stupid thick idiot. Good for nothing and would probably be on benefits (only lazy stupid people are on benefits, Channel 5 told me). And even more annoyingly, he is also very clever and intelligent, capable of leading a cunning machiavellian campaign to rule the changing room and BH in order to undermine various managers and ultimately bring down the club. A very very clever stupid idiot.
Or some might say he's just a bloke living his life, making mistakes in an intense (but ultimately meaningless) football environment. Probably trying his best and maybe not worthy of such hostility or being called a c**t by supporters of the club he has always played for and also supports.
No way. Hate him. Hate, hate , hate, hate, hate, HATE..
You do realise that was the best part of 10 yrs ago .
& as a premier league (best league in the world) striker he has scored the grand total of 28 goals in 6 seasons since 2010.
6 years - approximately 15m in wages directly from the club.
So £450k per goal.
probably all went to a brewery the same night and couldn't get pissed- hence ended up on the hookah pipe. Wankers, all of them.At last some good news.
Hope they discover Richards took the rest of the squad to a crack den and brothel as part of a team building exercise.
They went to the brothel and still couldn't score.
Well if my inference is incorrect, I can only apologise at misreading all the clues in your original post, and perhaps ask you summarise in a sentence or two why you needed to end it with a YouTube clip that has no relevance to the here and now.
As for "small-time", perhaps it doesn't make literal sense, but as with all idioms, those of us familiar with context in which the language is used know full well what it means.
Its interesting to me that the first 3 threads showing when I looked in this morning were about Gabby, Grealish and Collymore. Being local and being said to be a Villa fan seems to bring with it more extreme emotion I suppose whether its hero-worship or hostility.... I was annoyed that he went to Dubai, but more annoyed with Richards as he tried to defend it with 'we've had a hard season' which just added salt to the wound. Really not fussed about the shisha thing but then I smoke e-cigs which are a kind of futuristic, sci-fi version if sheesha (dunno the right spelling so I'm trying out both).
Bongin' it wiv Gabby AgBONGlahor.
Dude.
Fine by me. What irks is the fact this fat chancer like so many others has gotten away with it for so long. There's been a complete lack of shits given for far too long, along comes Hollis and Co and all of a sudden incompetents are fired, fat shits are disciplined. It's all far too little, far too late, Lerner, if he isn't already should be hanging his head in shame at what he's allowed and overseen for the past few years.
Well if my inference is incorrect, I can only apologise at misreading all the clues in your original post, and perhaps ask you summarise in a sentence or two why you needed to end it with a YouTube clip that has no relevance to the here and now.
As for "small-time", perhaps it doesn't make literal sense, but as with all idioms, those of us familiar with context in which the language is used know full well what it means.
You're right... Poor debating on my part. The clip was just a little addition to lighten the mood. Remembering happier times. I didn't for one moment mean to suggest "He once scored a winner against the Blues so we should be eternally grateful and forever indulge his every whim". I should not have included it as it has detracted from my general point that Gabby is coming in for some almighty stick and yet I don't feel that hate.
And the small-time thing. I know what it means. People say it a lot so I was mulling it over in my head and commented on those thoughts rather than my other thought which was annoyance at the suggestion that I am doing what Birmingham City fans do about Paul Tait. I thought your comparison was stretching things a little but I only have myself to blame. Your comment was instigated by my inclusion of that goal against Birmingham City in my post which I have admitted was an absolutely disastrous move on my part. Disastrous.
Or some might say he's just a bloke living his life, making mistakes in an intense (but ultimately meaningless) football environment. Probably trying his best and maybe not worthy of such hostility or being called a c**t by supporters of the club he has always played for and also supports.
Can't the club set up a Kebab Shop for him to run as part of a severance package?
Can't the club set up a Kebab Shop for him to run as part of a severance package?
Gabb's Kebabs
Can't the club set up a Kebab Shop for him to run as part of a severance package?
Gabb's Kebabs
Gabb's Kebabs 'N' Tabs
What a very sad end,because I think this must be an end to what was a very promising and sometimes fruitful career.I hope this is the end for his Villa career. I really do.
He will walk out a very rich man but a flawed character.
It won't end well for Gabby because it is so obvious that the decisions he will take and the fact that deep down he knows he has become a pariah will lead to his ultimate demise.
He might be rich but you can not buy class or intelligence.
Can't the club set up a Kebab Shop for him to run as part of a severance package?
Gabb's Kebabs
Gabb's Kebabs 'N' Tabs
He must have been late for training, I'd guess. Not a lot wrong with normal shisha pipes* Most are certainly not illegal.
*Well apart from shittty chemicals in some cases.
Can't the club set up a Kebab Shop for him to run as part of a severance package?
Gabb's Kebabs
Gabb's Kebabs 'N' Tabs
Shisha and Shish
He must have been late for training, I'd guess. Not a lot wrong with normal shisha pipes* Most are certainly not illegal.
*Well apart from shittty chemicals in some cases.
I'm confused why Gabby is in trouble and Richards in not. There must be something else, which we do not know that they're investigating.
The Fiver takes aim...
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/apr/01/rewarded-with-the-prize-of-having-no-place-in-the-aston-villa-squad
Selfish and Lazy and Greedy.... And thick. What a stupid thick idiot. Good for nothing and would probably be on benefits (only lazy stupid people are on benefits, Channel 5 told me). And even more annoyingly, he is also very clever and intelligent, capable of leading a cunning machiavellian campaign to rule the changing room and BH in order to undermine various managers and ultimately bring down the club. A very very clever stupid idiot.
Or some might say he's just a bloke living his life, making mistakes in an intense (but ultimately meaningless) football environment. Probably trying his best and maybe not worthy of such hostility or being called a c**t by supporters of the club he has always played for and also supports.
No way. Hate him. Hate, hate , hate, hate, hate, HATE..
When did he start supporting Villa?
Arsenal fan aint he? maybe he could fuck off there and see if their fans will give him the respect you seem to think he deserves. The cock-end
Can't the club set up a Kebab Shop for him to run as part of a severance package?
Gabb's Kebabs
Gabb's Kebabs 'N' Tabs
Shisha and Shish
Can't the club set up a Kebab Shop for him to run as part of a severance package?
Gabb's Kebabs
Gabb's Kebabs 'N' Tabs
Shisha and Shish
gabracebraba
Can't the club set up a Kebab Shop for him to run as part of a severance package?
Gabb's Kebabs
Gabb's Kebabs 'N' Tabs
Shisha and Shish
gabracebraba
Doner, doner, doner, doner, doner, doner, doner, doner Fatman.
Still not sure what he's been suspended for Going on holiday? Surely he had permission? Smoking one of those pipes? Seems very odd to me.Hoping it's for being a subversive influence and that behaviours that have not yet been reported come to light, resulting in him being disciplined or even got rid of.
Can't the club set up a Kebab Shop for him to run as part of a severance package?
Gabb's Kebabs
Gabb's Kebabs 'N' Tabs
Shisha and Shish
gabracebraba
Doner, doner, doner, doner, doner, doner, doner, doner Fatman.
Very good.
Still not sure what he's been suspended for Going on holiday? Surely he had permission? Smoking one of those pipes? Seems very odd to me.Fraud or maybe trade descriptions act?
Gabby's kebab *clap, clap*
Gabby's kebab *clap, clap*
Gabby's kebab, Gabby's kebab, Gabby's kebab *clap, clap*
He slices and he dices.
He adds herbs, he adds spicies.
You can't afford his prices.
And he eats it all himself.
Gabby's kebab *clap, clap*
Or they saw that pic and did a drugs test on the players.......
I wonder if it went through his peanut brain that Stephen Ireland had openly smoked the same sort of lung rotting contraption and it had all become part of a successful want away strategy. Act like a total twat, play like a total twat, be a total twat, go to Stoke. Sorted.
I wonder if it went through his peanut brain that Stephen Ireland had openly smoked the same sort of lung rotting contraption and it had all become part of a successful want away strategy. Act like a total twat, play like a total twat, be a total twat, go to Stoke. Sorted.
Andy Gray's verdict today: https://vimeo.com/161306732
It may be Pelsall Villa he scores for, but that annual goal will silence the haterz!Now that takes me back to my managerial days.
Andy Gray's verdict today: https://vimeo.com/161306732
Andy Gray's verdict today: https://vimeo.com/161306732
Andy Gray has gone 2 from 2 this week
Andy Gray's verdict today: https://vimeo.com/161306732
Andy Gray has gone 2 from 2 this week
He has, but it is all too late now. We could have done with people saying things like this in the media two years ago instead of saying what a good job Paul Lambert was doing.
Isn't he due a testimonial soon?
If ever a player less deserved a testimonial it is Gabriel Agbonlahor. The very embodiment of everything that is wrong and has gone wrong at Aston Villa.
If ever a player less deserved a testimonial it is Gabriel Agbonlahor. The very embodiment of everything that is wrong and has gone wrong at Aston Villa.
Its the eqivalent of smoking 40-300 fags in one go depend on what you read.
At least the management are onto him now finally. I would absolutely love it if they've found a gross misconduct offence from this investigation to sort the cocky little shit out once and for all.
At least the management are onto him now finally. I would absolutely love it if they've found a gross misconduct offence from this investigation to sort the cocky little shit out once and for all.
Is this not the player you famously stated "Is a £15 million player in this day" back in 2010?
At least the management are onto him now finally. I would absolutely love it if they've found a gross misconduct offence from this investigation to sort the cocky little shit out once and for all.
Is this not the player you famously stated "Is a £15 million player in this day" back in 2010?
Gabby had immense potential in the side playing next to Carew and Young. Football fees are based on a lot of things and it's not inconceivable in a world where Andy Carroll cost £35m, that Gabby might have demanded that kind of fee.
At least the management are onto him now finally. I would absolutely love it if they've found a gross misconduct offence from this investigation to sort the cocky little shit out once and for all.
Is this not the player you famously stated "Is a £15 million player in this day" back in 2010?
Gabby had immense potential in the side playing next to Carew and Young. Football fees are based on a lot of things and it's not inconceivable in a world where Andy Carroll cost £35m, that Gabby might have demanded that kind of fee.
And you see it all from Canada?
I do hope you're not trying the "better fan than yow" line because someone on here lives in Canada. It usually ends in tears.
I don't imagine he'll be appearing on the pitch at VP any time soon unless security arrangements are enhanced substantially.
I do hope you're not trying the "better fan than yow" line because someone on here lives in Canada. It usually ends in tears.
[/quoteI do hope you're not trying the "better fan than yow" line because someone on here lives in Canada. It usually ends in tears.
I certainly wont shed any caused by this joker Toronto.
I don't imagine he'll be appearing on the pitch at VP any time soon unless security arrangements are enhanced substantially.
There is such anger towards him that I honestly feel we have seen the last of him. These next few months will provide the board the opportunity to make a lot of tough and likely very expensive decisions to set the future up correctly. Certain individuals remaining at the club will only reduce the effectiveness of those changes. I think the board know where the problems lie and it won't shock me to see them in essence sack Gabby.
Like I said 'depending on what you read'. These appear to be the amount depending on what research you read.Its the eqivalent of smoking 40-300 fags in one go depend on what you read.
I'm all for a good witch hunt but let's try and keep things a little bit real.
Like I said 'depending on what you read'. These appear to be the amount depending on what research you read.Its the eqivalent of smoking 40-300 fags in one go depend on what you read.
I'm all for a good witch hunt but let's try and keep things a little bit real.
There will be no lap of appreciation.
I do hope you're not trying the "better fan than yow" line because someone on here lives in Canada. It usually ends in tears.
[/quoteI do hope you're not trying the "better fan than yow" line because someone on here lives in Canada. It usually ends in tears.
I certainly wont shed any caused by this joker Toronto.
Sometimes people's posts say a lot more about them than they probably intend them too.
Isn't he due a testimonial soon?
I'll give him a testimonial.
To whom it may concern: Gabriel "Gabby" Imuetinyan Agbonlahor
Gabby started his senior career well, making the best of his obvious limitations.
It would appear that Gabby has been sulking since his mate MON left.
Gabby has unfortunately become more and more unprofessional with each passing season.
Gabby has now arrived at point where he is a target for open mockery based a number of factors;
his obvious lack of physical conditioning, his obvious lack of effort when on the field of play; his adversarial attitude towards Aston Villa fans on social media.
If we could wish one thing for Gabriel it would be that he reverted to the days when he scored on the pitch more often than in a nightclub, be that women or dubious substances.
Alternatively F¤¤K OFF.
Its the eqivalent of smoking 40-300 fags in one go depend on what you read.
I'm all for a good witch hunt but let's try and keep things a little bit real.
Great for our Captain (an athlete, albeit a flabby one) to inhale cancer inducing toxicants - what sort of example is that to the rest of the squad and, even worse, younger impressionable fans? So not only overweight, he'll struggle for breath after smoking that crap.He should go back to the cigars.
Great for our Captain (an athlete, albeit a flabby one) to inhale cancer inducing toxicants - what sort of example is that to the rest of the squad and, even worse, younger impressionable fans? So not only overweight, he'll struggle for breath after smoking that crap.
I wonder if his smoking is on a regular basis? Would explain the lack of fitness and weight gain. Do the club do regular check ups for this type of thing? I wonder what the clauses in his contract state?r
I wonder if his smoking is on a regular basis? Would explain the lack of fitness and weight gain. Do the club do regular check ups for this type of thing? I wonder what the clauses in his contract state?You never know, we may have given him a drug test on his return, now that could be interesting.
Andy Gray nailed it. We've been conned by Gabby. We need to get him out of the club. Easier said than done though. He won't have attracted too many potential suitors with his selfish behaviour.
Surely you can't sack someone for going on holiday when he had a weekend off. I know he's past it and runs around like a sloth these days but he's not the cause of Aston Villa's dreadful decline over the last 6 years.
hopefully in the championship we can just get him back to playing like we know he can and start bagging loads of goals
He's never been a scorer of loads of goals and it's been too long for him to regain his former peak, whatever that peak was. Remember when Gabby and Walcott were the fastest in the Premiership, he'd be amongst the slowest now
:)
Surely you can't sack someone for going on holiday when he had a weekend off.
I know he's past it and runs around like a sloth these days but he's not the cause of Aston Villa's dreadful decline over the last 6 years.
Surely you can't sack someone for going on holiday when he had a weekend off.
I know he's past it and runs around like a sloth these days but he's not the cause of Aston Villa's dreadful decline over the last 6 years.
I'd prefer him to leave rather than be given yet another chance. He's woeful.Me too. Every summer I always hope Gabby will start the season well and perform more consistently. Every year now he's worse than the previous season. It's now time for him to move on.
I've nothing new to add but just wanted to pop by and say that Agbonlahor is a big, fat horrible sod.
And thickI've nothing new to add but just wanted to pop by and say that Agbonlahor is a big, fat horrible sod.
have to say I agree with that, entirely,
well would have to add lazy to it though
He is in Kew, just behind the magnolias.Well, I've looked and I still can't see him.
Surely you can't sack someone for going on holiday when he had a weekend off.
I know he's past it and runs around like a sloth these days but he's not the cause of Aston Villa's dreadful decline over the last 6 years.
Maybe not the entire cause, but certainly a contributor to the decline. Sad really yhat at 29 he should still be danger to the opposition - look at Defoe at Sunderland, still a major threat but older than Gabby.
Surely you can't sack someone for going on holiday when he had a weekend off.
I know he's past it and runs around like a sloth these days but he's not the cause of Aston Villa's dreadful decline over the last 6 years.
"Maybe not the entire cause"? Really?
If there was any ambition at the club at all he'd have been shown the door ages ago. The lack of ambition and the decline of the club has sod all to do with Agbonlahor. We need to stop looking at the symptoms and concentrate on the true cause of why we're heading for the Championship.
Maybe not the entire cause, but certainly a contributor to the decline. Sad really yhat at 29 he should still be danger to the opposition - look at Defoe at Sunderland, still a major threat but older than Gabby.
Surely you can't sack someone for going on holiday when he had a weekend off.
I know he's past it and runs around like a sloth these days but he's not the cause of Aston Villa's dreadful decline over the last 6 years.
"Maybe not the entire cause"? Really?
If there was any ambition at the club at all he'd have been shown the door ages ago. The lack of ambition and the decline of the club has sod all to do with Agbonlahor. We need to stop looking at the symptoms and concentrate on the true cause of why we're heading for the Championship.
Maybe not the entire cause, but certainly a contributor to the decline. Sad really yhat at 29 he should still be danger to the opposition - look at Defoe at Sunderland, still a major threat but older than Gabby.
You can't have it both ways though, complain about lack of money and complain about the amount thrown at gimps like Agbonlahor and N'Zogbia.
The problem has never been the money, in terms of what should have been a comfortable mid table existence, it's been about the shocking way we've pissed hundreds of millions up the wall. And that goes right back to the day MON and Lerner drove through the gates to the North Stand.
And there is the absolute crux of the problem, if the owner isn't arsed why would anybody else be. We won't recover until he's gone imoSurely you can't sack someone for going on holiday when he had a weekend off.
I know he's past it and runs around like a sloth these days but he's not the cause of Aston Villa's dreadful decline over the last 6 years.
"Maybe not the entire cause"? Really?
If there was any ambition at the club at all he'd have been shown the door ages ago. The lack of ambition and the decline of the club has sod all to do with Agbonlahor. We need to stop looking at the symptoms and concentrate on the true cause of why we're heading for the Championship.
Maybe not the entire cause, but certainly a contributor to the decline. Sad really yhat at 29 he should still be danger to the opposition - look at Defoe at Sunderland, still a major threat but older than Gabby.
You can't have it both ways though, complain about lack of money and complain about the amount thrown at gimps like Agbonlahor and N'Zogbia.
The problem has never been the money, in terms of what should have been a comfortable mid table existence, it's been about the shocking way we've pissed hundreds of millions up the wall. And that goes right back to the day MON and Lerner drove through the gates to the North Stand.
Gabby's poor attitude flourished because it wasn't a million miles away from that of the owner. That complacency and neglect may already have been inherent in Gabby, but it gains legitimacy when the owner displays all the same traits.
Surely you can't sack someone for going on holiday when he had a weekend off.
I know he's past it and runs around like a sloth these days but he's not the cause of Aston Villa's dreadful decline over the last 6 years.
"Maybe not the entire cause"? Really?
If there was any ambition at the club at all he'd have been shown the door ages ago. The lack of ambition and the decline of the club has sod all to do with Agbonlahor. We need to stop looking at the symptoms and concentrate on the true cause of why we're heading for the Championship.
Maybe not the entire cause, but certainly a contributor to the decline. Sad really yhat at 29 he should still be danger to the opposition - look at Defoe at Sunderland, still a major threat but older than Gabby.
You can't have it both ways though, complain about lack of money and complain about the amount thrown at gimps like Agbonlahor and N'Zogbia.
The problem has never been the money, in terms of what should have been a comfortable mid table existence, it's been about the shocking way we've pissed hundreds of millions up the wall. And that goes right back to the day MON and Lerner drove through the gates to the North Stand.
Gabby's poor attitude flourished because it wasn't a million miles away from that of the owner. That complacency and neglect may already have been inherent in Gabby, but it gains legitimacy when the owner displays all the same traits.
Sorry if it has been mentioned, but has anyone heard if gabby was given a drugs test by the club
On his return from his Dubai break, as I read on another forum that he may well have done.
They seemed to believe that allegedly the results were back at V P. Just wondering if anyone was any the wiser, and if it is so then would that be a case for terminating his contract
That thread title is the biggest Oxymoron ever.
That thread title is the biggest Oxymoron ever.
Thanks I think ;)
P.S. Whats a Oxymoron?
That thread title is the biggest Oxymoron ever.
Thanks I think ;)
P.S. Whats a Oxymoron?
Thick gravy.
Is there any reason why we cannot put him on the transfer list? Obviously there would be no takers but it would show him the powers that be mean business this time.
If that turns out to be the case I would be extremely concerned about the next manager!Is there any reason why we cannot put him on the transfer list? Obviously there would be no takers but it would show him the powers that be mean business this time.
I would presume that would be for the next manager to decide though. He may want to keep him, you never know.
If that turns out to be the case I would be extremely concerned about the next manager!Is there any reason why we cannot put him on the transfer list? Obviously there would be no takers but it would show him the powers that be mean business this time.
I would presume that would be for the next manager to decide though. He may want to keep him, you never know.
If it's Pearson he will be retained for strangling practice.To cheer the fan base up, just release one of those videos weekly on the official site...
No further action on the Gabby in Dubai episode according to the club.
A lot of fuss about nothing.
A lot of fuss about nothing.
A lot of fuss about nothing.
His Villa career in a nutshell.
A lot of fuss about nothing.
His Villa career in a nutshell.
The last few years probably, but his whole career? Nah, he scored, what, 70+ league goals for us?
Put him on the bench, bring him on to a chorus of boos then take him off again after 5 minutes for another round of abuse, replaced by a 17 year old. Then make him do the walk of shame in front of the Trinity and up the tunnel. It will be the polar opposite of how Mellberg's Villa Park career came to a conclusion
Club: Explain yourself.
GA: No.
Club: OK.
Club: Explain yourself.That is probably exactly how it went. He's untouchable.
GA: No.
Club: OK.
A lot of fuss about nothing.
His Villa career in a nutshell.
The last few years probably, but his whole career? Nah, he scored, what, 70+ league goals for us?
According to John Percy with the Telegraph...
Villa to sell Agbonlahor
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/04/05/aston-villa-ready-to-sell-striker-gabriel-agbonlahor/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Apologies for the link, just bone idle.
Put him on the bench, bring him on to a chorus of boos then take him off again after 5 minutes for another round of abuse, replaced by a 17 year old. Then make him do the walk of shame in front of the Trinity and up the tunnel. It will be the polar opposite of how Mellberg's Villa Park career came to a conclusion
Wait until he's off the pitch in front of the Witton Lane about 2 thirds towards the Holte. Then he'll have to do 1/3 of the Witton Lane, the whole of the Holte End and most of the Trinity.
He might start to understand the esteem in which he isn't held.
The only people I could conceive as being thick enough would be Tiny Penis or Fat Sam (if Sunderland survive...which they won't) or Martin O Neill, should he return to club management in the summer. Even then, Gabby would probably have to half his wages.According to John Percy with the Telegraph...
Villa to sell Agbonlahor
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/04/05/aston-villa-ready-to-sell-striker-gabriel-agbonlahor/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Apologies for the link, just bone idle.
And who, exactly is going to offer a £60k a week contract to a bone idle, useless, chubby, waste of skin?
Us apart.
A lot of fuss about nothing.
His Villa career in a nutshell.
The last few years probably, but his whole career? Nah, he scored, what, 70+ league goals for us?
73 in 317
benteke 42 in 89
who on earth would pay a fee for the fat disgrace?
No further action does that mean he doesn't have to play again this season?
Put him on the bench, bring him on to a chorus of boos then take him off again after 5 minutes for another round of abuse, replaced by a 17 year old. Then make him do the walk of shame in front of the Trinity and up the tunnel. It will be the polar opposite of how Mellberg's Villa Park career came to a conclusion
Wait until he's off the pitch in front of the Witton Lane about 2 thirds towards the Holte. Then he'll have to do 1/3 of the Witton Lane, the whole of the Holte End and most of the Trinity.
He might start to understand the esteem in which he isn't held.
The more I think about it the more I think someone like a west Brom or Bournemouth would take him at a cut price. If he thinks he is still capable of PL football then he's likely to take a pay cut just to make sure he gets the move.
The more I think about it the more I think someone like a west Brom or Bournemouth would take him at a cut price. If he thinks he is still capable of PL football then he's likely to take a pay cut just to make sure he gets the move.
The more I think about it the more I think someone like a west Brom or Bournemouth would take him at a cut price. If he thinks he is still capable of PL football then he's likely to take a pay cut just to make sure he gets the move.
The only thing that will drive him in that direction is his ego, and I can't imagine Eddie Howie or Pulis touching him with a barge pole. They seem to prefer their professional footballers to be, well professional.
I'm struggling to think of anyone that would take him unless Burnley come up and are desperate for an extra body up front and Dyche is mental enough to think he can get him playing at anything over 80%.
I have it on decentish authority that he was close to join Smethwick on loan in January. But his back injury stopped it happening.
I have it on decentish authority that he was close to join Smethwick on loan in January. But his back injury stopped it happening.
Thats quite funny. Port Vale or even Coventry perhaps but the Baggies not a chance. He wouldn't get through the first Tony Pulis training session!!
Definitely in the top 5 I want gone at all costs this summer, give them all free transfers and jog on
Gabby, Micah, Lescott, Guzan, Bacuna
much as i want the fat knacker gone i just cant see him at the bitters. he is the exact opposite of what penis likes in a playerNot sure about that. As well as big fuckers, Penis has signed his share of "runners." That said is Gabby's fuck poor attitude going to put Penis off, particularly if he manages to shift that shyster Bellendhino in the summer? He may not fancy Flabby strolling in with his deck chair under his arm.
much as i want the fat knacker gone i just cant see him at the bitters. he is the exact opposite of what penis likes in a playerNot sure about that. As well as big fuckers, Penis has signed his share of "runners." That said is Gabby's fuck poor attitude going to put Penis off, particularly if he manages to shift that shyster Bellendhino in the summer? He may not fancy Flabby strolling in with his deck chair under his arm.
Personally I'd agree the pay off on Gabby and let him leave on a free. Just cut our losses and get red. He needs a new club. It's the only way he'll pull his finger out.
much as i want the fat knacker gone i just cant see him at the bitters. he is the exact opposite of what penis likes in a playerNot sure about that. As well as big fuckers, Penis has signed his share of "runners." That said is Gabby's fuck poor attitude going to put Penis off, particularly if he manages to shift that shyster Bellendhino in the summer? He may not fancy Flabby strolling in with his deck chair under his arm.
Personally I'd agree the pay off on Gabby and let him leave on a free. Just cut our losses and get red. He needs a new club. It's the only way he'll pull his finger out.
According to Physioroom (http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/epl_injury_table.php#c2) he may be back tomorow - hope so as I was looking forward to giving him some constructive feedback
According to Physioroom (http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/epl_injury_table.php#c2) he may be back tomorow - hope so as I was looking forward to giving him some constructive feedbackReports are he's not named in squad
Apparently he has got to see a proctologist and a gynaecologist, as the club don't know if he's an arsehole or a C**t!!!
According to Pat Murphy he has got to go in this afternoon to be examined by the club doctors. I wonder what they'll find?
Definitely in the top 5 I want gone at all costs this summer, give them all free transfers and jog on
Gabby, Micah, Lescott, Guzan, Bacuna
Definitely in the top 5 I want gone at all costs this summer, give them all free transfers and jog on
Gabby, Micah, Lescott, Guzan, Bacuna
Aye, the quintet of quim.
Definitely in the top 5 I want gone at all costs this summer, give them all free transfers and jog on
Gabby, Micah, Lescott, Guzan, Bacuna
Aye, the quintet of quim.
The Foursome of Fuckwittery
Definitely in the top 5 I want gone at all costs this summer, give them all free transfers and jog on
Gabby, Micah, Lescott, Guzan, Bacuna
Aye, the quintet of quim.
The Foursome of Fuckwittery
The Fuck 'em off five
It was Vertigo a few weeks ago. Perhaps he's off to Dubai this weekend?The club should tear up his new contract. Surely he is in breach of it?
Caretaker boss Eric Black said: “He has not trained today and I have taken him out of the squad because he is coming in to see the doctor.
“He phoned in this morning to say he was struggling with a virus.”
Agbonlahor missed last weekend’s 4-0 defeat against Chelsea as the club launched an internal investigation into his behaviour during a recent trip to Dubai.
The board took no further action and he returned to training earlier this week, confirmed Black.
“I couldn’t fault him for his attitude in training," he said.
“What we have asked him to do he has done. He hasn’t been a problem.
“But he has called in this morning saying he’s feeling unwell.”
He can't face the wrath of us.
I hope he's played his last game for us
He can't face the wrath of us.
I hope he's played his last game for us
He should be stripped of the club captaincy at least, what a great role model for kids he is.
He can't face the wrath of us.
I hope he's played his last game for us
I dont - he should be picked for the last game for a proper send off
Lazy twunt.I wonder if another Brummie born player and a fan has ended up being such a ****? However I think we should forgive him due to lack of brain cells issue!
Just Fuck Off
virus my arseHow did that spineless lump get vertigo? His feet haven't left the ground during a game for a long time. I'm taking a banner today with "sack the fat twat" on it.
like suffering from vertigo during a game
perhaps the halfwit has finally realised that he is finished and cant face being booed
I can forgive him many things. But poncing a living off the Villa in our hour of need never. Totally unforgivable.Lazy twunt.I wonder if another Brummie born player and a fan has ended up being such a ****? However I think we should forgive him due to lack of brain cells issue!
Just Fuck Off
I can forgive him many things. But poncing a living off the Villa in our hour of need never. Totally unforgivable.Lazy twunt.I wonder if another Brummie born player and a fan has ended up being such a ****? However I think we should forgive him due to lack of brain cells issue!
Just Fuck Off
I wonder what the next game's excuse will be. "Injury sustained in training" is my guess.
I wonder what the next game's excuse will be. "Injury sustained in training" is my guess.
'Gabby Agbonlahor again misses out as a result of a recurrence of a long-standing ability problem.'
I wonder what the next game's excuse will be. "Injury sustained in training" is my guess.
I wonder what the next game's excuse will be. "Injury sustained in training" is my guess.
Obviously lines like 'I can't fault him in training' are code for 'this week he didn't turn up with his head mashed after just getting off a seven hour flight.'
Now being 'outed' by the club I feel. Eric Black has just said he's on a 2 week fitness programme, no where near fit and training with the u21's
An open letter to Agbonlahor
Dear Gabby
You fat, bone idle, unprofessional disgrace. Fuck off.
Yours
Villa fans (most of)
Corrected.An open letter to Agbonlahor
Dear Gabby
You fat, bone idle, unprofessional disgrace. Fuck off.
Yours
Villa fans (most of)
Needs more hashbrowns.
Now being 'outed' by the club I feel. Eric Black has just said he's on a 2 week fitness programme, no where near fit and training with the u21's
Sure Gordon Taylor & his mob will be watching this closely, they'll soon be accusing the club of bullying him
A total shambles, Agbonlahor has not trained properly for the past five seasons, coasting along and just taking the money, or the piss whichever way you want to put it.
How you can not be 'up to the levels of Premier League fitness' at this point of the season, it is a deriliction of duties from the fitness 'team' whoever the hell they are and the sucsession of useless coaches/managers who have just let him get away with it for so long that have been employed by our joke of a football club.
It just gets worse.
Now being 'outed' by the club I feel. Eric Black has just said he's on a 2 week fitness programme, no where near fit and training with the u21'sI think Black is doing a great job at identifying the big problem players in the squad, its a pity they cannot dock his wages, its one thing being injured and unable to play but being unfit to play due to fitness levels during the season is another.
Now being 'outed' by the club I feel. Eric Black has just said he's on a 2 week fitness programme, no where near fit and training with the u21'sI think Black is doing a great job at identifying the big problem players in the squad, its a pity they cannot dock his wages, its one thing being injured and unable to play but being unfit to play due to fitness levels during the season is another.
I hope he plays at least once more for us this season so I can book the fuck out of him.
He's an utter thundercunt.
What an almighty piss take that is.
That is about as strong as you can get from Black on what a fat, lazy, waster he is.
Could this be (and I'm hoping here) the first move in a process to terminate his contract?
i.e. get him to agree that he's failed to attain and maintain required fitness levels.
Now we just need supporters to turn up at Villa Park in Flabby's kit but stretched over an enormous fat-suit.
The lazy fat fuck.
Utterly staggering. Unfit to play at 29. In April. The quicker we shed these utter wasters, the better. I'm sick of a bunch of half arsed losers populating our football club.
And fair play to Black, he's got nothing to lose.
Could this be (and I'm hoping here) the first move in a process to terminate his contract?On second thoughts, I think it could be the start of the club tightening up discipline, reminding the players that they are just paid employees with responsibilities, and that they don't run the place.
i.e. get him to agree that he's failed to attain and maintain required fitness levels.
We could always try giving him the Bendtner treatment, Wolfsburg style.
Bendtner barred from training (http://www.espnfc.com/vfl-wolfsburg/story/2840495/nicklas-bendtner-not-training-with-wolfsburg)
Not included in that article is a quote from Klaus Allofs, Wolfsburg's sporting director that, "in general we consider him to be a danger to team spirit, so we're forced to act."
He's also gone out of his way to piss Wolfsburg off, including posting pictures of himself in club kit by his latest Mercedes ostentation. Which under normal circumstances would be fair enough, apart from VW essentially is Wolfsburg, both the city and the club. It's a contractual requirement to drive a VW when wearing club kit.
Apparently they're negotiating to cancel his contract.
An open letter to Agbonlahor
Dear Gabby
You fat, bone idle, unprofessional disgrace. Fuck off. # (https://twitter.com/hashtag/avfc?src=hash)flabbyonegoalayear
Yours
Villa fans (most of)
Needs more hashtags.
An open letter to AgbonlahorRound of applause
Dear Gabby
You fat, bone idle, unprofessional disgrace. Fuck off.
Yours
Villa fans (most of)
That game under Lambert where we beat Arsenal at the start of the season he was electric. Didn't score himself but tore them apart.It was games like that which gave me hope we still had a fantastic game changing player in the squad. Then we would have nothing for weeks. Now we just have a sorry excuse for a sportsman.
The Norwich game the previous season. His two goals. That game was a big step in us staying up. He was awesome then. His fall since has been shocking and what is even sadder than the fact he just doesn't seem willing to give this sort of performance anymore, is the fact that physically he probably can't. His pace has gone. The attitude has gone, the legs have gone and the desire.That game under Lambert where we beat Arsenal at the start of the season he was electric. Didn't score himself but tore them apart.It was games like that which gave me hope we still had a fantastic game changing player in the squad. Then we would have nothing for weeks. Now we just have a sorry excuse for a sportsman.
It's actually a real shame. He could have the love of the crowd and be remembered like other greats. Someone earlier commented on Vardy being the same age too and his career has only just started.The Norwich game the previous season. His two goals. That game was a big step in us staying up. He was awesome then. His fall since has been shocking and what is even sadder than the fact he just doesn't seem willing to give this sort of performance anymore, is the fact that physically he probably can't. His pace has gone. The attitude has gone, the legs have gone and the desire.That game under Lambert where we beat Arsenal at the start of the season he was electric. Didn't score himself but tore them apart.It was games like that which gave me hope we still had a fantastic game changing player in the squad. Then we would have nothing for weeks. Now we just have a sorry excuse for a sportsman.
It struck me the other week watching Defoe. He didn't have the greatest of games but he still looks very sharp. He's got a burst of acceleration. He's still got a bit of zip and he's 33. Not only that, he's banged them in this season for Sunderland. But then again, he's a good pro and he's looked after himself. Gabby looks like a sunday league player at times. The way he trundles round the pitch with his belly hanging out, combined with his lack of technical ability. He's a fucking shambles now. It's appalling to watch.It's actually a real shame. He could have the love of the crowd and be remembered like other greats. Someone earlier commented on Vardy being the same age too and his career has only just started.The Norwich game the previous season. His two goals. That game was a big step in us staying up. He was awesome then. His fall since has been shocking and what is even sadder than the fact he just doesn't seem willing to give this sort of performance anymore, is the fact that physically he probably can't. His pace has gone. The attitude has gone, the legs have gone and the desire.That game under Lambert where we beat Arsenal at the start of the season he was electric. Didn't score himself but tore them apart.It was games like that which gave me hope we still had a fantastic game changing player in the squad. Then we would have nothing for weeks. Now we just have a sorry excuse for a sportsman.
Probably true but he's 29 years old for fuck sake. The biggest waste of space ever to grace (disgrace) Villa Park.The Norwich game the previous season. His two goals. That game was a big step in us staying up. He was awesome then. His fall since has been shocking and what is even sadder than the fact he just doesn't seem willing to give this sort of performance anymore, is the fact that physically he probably can't. His pace has gone. The attitude has gone, the legs have gone and the desire.That game under Lambert where we beat Arsenal at the start of the season he was electric. Didn't score himself but tore them apart.It was games like that which gave me hope we still had a fantastic game changing player in the squad. Then we would have nothing for weeks. Now we just have a sorry excuse for a sportsman.
It's galling too because Gabby got where he is (initially) by hard work, determination and the right attitude. It's what set him apart over more naturally gifted youngster like the Moores and the Fonz. He's just taken it so easy for the last few years now.Probably true but he's 29 years old for fuck sake. The biggest waste of space ever to grace (disgrace) Villa Park.The Norwich game the previous season. His two goals. That game was a big step in us staying up. He was awesome then. His fall since has been shocking and what is even sadder than the fact he just doesn't seem willing to give this sort of performance anymore, is the fact that physically he probably can't. His pace has gone. The attitude has gone, the legs have gone and the desire.That game under Lambert where we beat Arsenal at the start of the season he was electric. Didn't score himself but tore them apart.It was games like that which gave me hope we still had a fantastic game changing player in the squad. Then we would have nothing for weeks. Now we just have a sorry excuse for a sportsman.
Probably true but he's 29 years old for fuck sake. The biggest waste of space ever to grace (disgrace) Villa Park.The Norwich game the previous season. His two goals. That game was a big step in us staying up. He was awesome then. His fall since has been shocking and what is even sadder than the fact he just doesn't seem willing to give this sort of performance anymore, is the fact that physically he probably can't. His pace has gone. The attitude has gone, the legs have gone and the desire.That game under Lambert where we beat Arsenal at the start of the season he was electric. Didn't score himself but tore them apart.It was games like that which gave me hope we still had a fantastic game changing player in the squad. Then we would have nothing for weeks. Now we just have a sorry excuse for a sportsman.
Too right. The last few years of the onset of his laziness have coincided with the slow painful demise of the club. Not all his fault obviously but being a senior member of the squad he could have been hugely beneficial to the newcomers. But he hasn't cared enough to bother. The club has given him everything and this is how he has repaid us. What a first class fucking waster.It's galling too because Gabby got where he is (initially) by hard work, determination and the right attitude. It's what set him apart over more naturally gifted youngster like the Moores and the Fonz. He's just taken it so easy for the last few years now.Probably true but he's 29 years old for fuck sake. The biggest waste of space ever to grace (disgrace) Villa Park.The Norwich game the previous season. His two goals. That game was a big step in us staying up. He was awesome then. His fall since has been shocking and what is even sadder than the fact he just doesn't seem willing to give this sort of performance anymore, is the fact that physically he probably can't. His pace has gone. The attitude has gone, the legs have gone and the desire.That game under Lambert where we beat Arsenal at the start of the season he was electric. Didn't score himself but tore them apart.It was games like that which gave me hope we still had a fantastic game changing player in the squad. Then we would have nothing for weeks. Now we just have a sorry excuse for a sportsman.
Well said!Probably true but he's 29 years old for fuck sake. The biggest waste of space ever to grace (disgrace) Villa Park.The Norwich game the previous season. His two goals. That game was a big step in us staying up. He was awesome then. His fall since has been shocking and what is even sadder than the fact he just doesn't seem willing to give this sort of performance anymore, is the fact that physically he probably can't. His pace has gone. The attitude has gone, the legs have gone and the desire.That game under Lambert where we beat Arsenal at the start of the season he was electric. Didn't score himself but tore them apart.It was games like that which gave me hope we still had a fantastic game changing player in the squad. Then we would have nothing for weeks. Now we just have a sorry excuse for a sportsman.
I can think of at least 10 comfortably worse than him.
He needs to be moved on, but a decade at the same club is rare these days.
Fans talk about loyalty, but when a player struggles for form the talk soon turns to sell him/ pay the fucker off.
Guzan and and Gabby have made telling contributions for the club over the years,so whilst I won't excuse their horrid form this year, they aren't deserving of Hodge/ Callaghan levels of abuse either.
Well I can't think of one. Players like Hodge, Callaghan and Delph deserved the stick for the thngs they have done to the club. But Gabby's case is totally different. He was given a break by this club and was nurtured from a young age right up to the Prem and an England call up. He has raked in a fortune (which until recently he deserved).To my knowledge no club has ever made a bid for him. I don't put that down to loyalty. I put that down to his total lack of ambition and desire once he had "made it" at the Villa.Probably true but he's 29 years old for fuck sake. The biggest waste of space ever to grace (disgrace) Villa Park.The Norwich game the previous season. His two goals. That game was a big step in us staying up. He was awesome then. His fall since has been shocking and what is even sadder than the fact he just doesn't seem willing to give this sort of performance anymore, is the fact that physically he probably can't. His pace has gone. The attitude has gone, the legs have gone and the desire.That game under Lambert where we beat Arsenal at the start of the season he was electric. Didn't score himself but tore them apart.It was games like that which gave me hope we still had a fantastic game changing player in the squad. Then we would have nothing for weeks. Now we just have a sorry excuse for a sportsman.
I can think of at least 10 comfortably worse than him.
He needs to be moved on, but a decade at the same club is rare these days.
Fans talk about loyalty, but when a player struggles for form the talk soon turns to sell him/ pay the fucker off.
Guzan and and Gabby have made telling contributions for the club over the years,so whilst I won't excuse their horrid form this year, they aren't deserving of Hodge/ Callaghan levels of abuse either.
The Norwich game the previous season. His two goals. That game was a big step in us staying up. He was awesome then. His fall since has been shocking and what is even sadder than the fact he just doesn't seem willing to give this sort of performance anymore, is the fact that physically he probably can't. His pace has gone. The attitude has gone, the legs have gone and the desire.That game under Lambert where we beat Arsenal at the start of the season he was electric. Didn't score himself but tore them apart.It was games like that which gave me hope we still had a fantastic game changing player in the squad. Then we would have nothing for weeks. Now we just have a sorry excuse for a sportsman.
I wonder if he is ill, like depressed? Cue the jokes or sarky comments!!
Well said!Probably true but he's 29 years old for fuck sake. The biggest waste of space ever to grace (disgrace) Villa Park.The Norwich game the previous season. His two goals. That game was a big step in us staying up. He was awesome then. His fall since has been shocking and what is even sadder than the fact he just doesn't seem willing to give this sort of performance anymore, is the fact that physically he probably can't. His pace has gone. The attitude has gone, the legs have gone and the desire.That game under Lambert where we beat Arsenal at the start of the season he was electric. Didn't score himself but tore them apart.It was games like that which gave me hope we still had a fantastic game changing player in the squad. Then we would have nothing for weeks. Now we just have a sorry excuse for a sportsman.
I can think of at least 10 comfortably worse than him.
He needs to be moved on, but a decade at the same club is rare these days.
Fans talk about loyalty, but when a player struggles for form the talk soon turns to sell him/ pay the fucker off.
Guzan and and Gabby have made telling contributions for the club over the years,so whilst I won't excuse their horrid form this year, they aren't deserving of Hodge/ Callaghan levels of abuse either.
Would love Nige in now to 'deal' with this kind of thing. Unfortunate Gabby is a victim of the Prem, not particularly bright but it's loads of money. Lost any passion he had for the sport or indeed club.Watching his 73 premier league goals on an endless loop."I coulda been a contender.I coulda been somebody.Instead of a bum, which is what I am, let's face it"
Wait to see him on 'Whatever happened to threads'. At 40 he will be 25 stone and declared bankrupt.
Well said!Probably true but he's 29 years old for fuck sake. The biggest waste of space ever to grace (disgrace) Villa Park.The Norwich game the previous season. His two goals. That game was a big step in us staying up. He was awesome then. His fall since has been shocking and what is even sadder than the fact he just doesn't seem willing to give this sort of performance anymore, is the fact that physically he probably can't. His pace has gone. The attitude has gone, the legs have gone and the desire.That game under Lambert where we beat Arsenal at the start of the season he was electric. Didn't score himself but tore them apart.It was games like that which gave me hope we still had a fantastic game changing player in the squad. Then we would have nothing for weeks. Now we just have a sorry excuse for a sportsman.
I can think of at least 10 comfortably worse than him.
He needs to be moved on, but a decade at the same club is rare these days.
Fans talk about loyalty, but when a player struggles for form the talk soon turns to sell him/ pay the fucker off.
Guzan and and Gabby have made telling contributions for the club over the years,so whilst I won't excuse their horrid form this year, they aren't deserving of Hodge/ Callaghan levels of abuse either.
Under most circumstances I'd agree with the decade and loyalty point.
But loyalty would to me imply someone who'd turned down other opportunities.
It would imply someone who gave their all.
It would imply someone who put themselves out for the team.
However, we're talking about someone who's sleepwalked from one contract extension to the next. No that's not his fault. But it's not as though there's ever been serious outside interest to test his loyalty.
We're talking about someone who's been sulking on and off ever since O'Neill left.
He got a cob on with Houllier when he said he should lose a few pounds and concentrate on speed.
He was a peripheral figure under McLeish, despite playing a lot of games. An approach that continued under Lambert where for 5 or 6 games per season he'd actually remind of the player he used to be and could be when he was arsed enough.
We're talking about someone who's basically sat on his arse and watched as the club that took him in as a kid and turned him into someone receiving £50-60K per week for the last however many years has disappeared down the toilet this season.
That's not my idea of loyalty. The last 4-5 years have been coming ever closer to my idea of freeloading though.
I wonder if he is ill, like depressed? Cue the jokes or sarky comments!!
Not impossible. A good deal of his demeanour and approach to things these days, at least superficially good tickets a few boxes.
It's about the only explanation that would be palatable, as all of the others tend to revolve around various degrees of self aggrandising arsehole.
I wonder if he is ill, like depressed? Cue the jokes or sarky comments!!
I wonder if he is ill, like depressed? Cue the jokes or sarky comments!!
Not impossible. A good deal of his demeanour and approach to things these days, at least superficially good tickets a few boxes.
It's about the only explanation that would be palatable, as all of the others tend to revolve around various degrees of self aggrandising arsehole.
I wonder if he is ill, like depressed? Cue the jokes or sarky comments!!
I think he's just pissed off with the club's decline since 2010 and has given up. Mind you he still takes his wages, bless him.
I wonder if he is ill, like depressed? Cue the jokes or sarky comments!!
I think he's just pissed off with the club's decline since 2010 and has given up. Mind you he still takes his wages, bless him.
He's pissed off? He should talk to the fans who've spent a chunk of their salaries on season tickets for 5 years only to get the worst return in English professional football. He's nothing but a lazy, arrogant twat. Hero to zero.
If I remember correctly the psycho that is Roy Keane called him out and was lambasted by one and all on here, in hindsight we got rid of the wrong one.
He quit.
If I remember correctly the psycho that is Roy Keane called him out and was lambasted by one and all on here, in hindsight we got rid of the wrong one.
2 Wrongs have never made a right.
Keane was an aresehole from Day 1. No idea why he was hired, no idea why he wanted to work here.
Gabby has been increasingly shit for 6 years, first quite a bit, then lots, then all the time. So only a lazy arsehole for c40% of his time at Villa.
Surely being fit to do the job is a minimum requirement. Club needs to sack him for gross misconduct. A complete fake.
One thing that has always puzzled me is why he was made Club Captain. He has always appeared to be the last man you would want as captain. It is not as if you need a Club Captain as well as a Team Captain.
One thing that has always puzzled me is why he was made Club Captain. He has always appeared to be the last man you would want as captain. It is not as if you need a Club Captain as well as a Team Captain.
One of many dreadful decisions made by the club since Lerner gave up in 2010.
If I remember correctly the psycho that is Roy Keane called him out and was lambasted by one and all on here, in hindsight we got rid of the wrong one.
One thing that has always puzzled me is why he was made Club Captain. He has always appeared to be the last man you would want as captain. It is not as if you need a Club Captain as well as a Team Captain.
One of many dreadful decisions made by the club since Lerner gave up in 2010.
So what was the reasoning behind it?
putting it mildly he has grown into a monster. He has become too powerful at the club.I wouldn't mind if he was someone like Gerrard who earned the right to become Mr Liverpool. Gabby was incredibly fortunate to be dealt his hand in life. Shame he don't appreciate it. This is my last comment on the subject cos it's boiling my piss.He quit.
He quit because he wasn't backed by Lambert when he called out Gabby.
True thatOne thing that has always puzzled me is why he was made Club Captain. He has always appeared to be the last man you would want as captain. It is not as if you need a Club Captain as well as a Team Captain.
One of many dreadful decisions made by the club since Lerner gave up in 2010.
One thing that has always puzzled me is why he was made Club Captain. He has always appeared to be the last man you would want as captain. It is not as if you need a Club Captain as well as a Team Captain.
One of many dreadful decisions made by the club since Lerner gave up in 2010.
One thing that has always puzzled me is why he was made Club Captain. He has always appeared to be the last man you would want as captain. It is not as if you need a Club Captain as well as a Team Captain.
One of many dreadful decisions made by the club since Lerner gave up in 2010.
Shoehorning Lerner's name into a thread about Gabby is good going but I knew you'd manage it.
True thatOne thing that has always puzzled me is why he was made Club Captain. He has always appeared to be the last man you would want as captain. It is not as if you need a Club Captain as well as a Team Captain.
One of many dreadful decisions made by the club since Lerner gave up in 2010.
One thing that has always puzzled me is why he was made Club Captain. He has always appeared to be the last man you would want as captain. It is not as if you need a Club Captain as well as a Team Captain.
One of many dreadful decisions made by the club since Lerner gave up in 2010.
Shoehorning Lerner's name into a thread about Gabby is good going but I knew you'd manage it.
Blimey you're easily upset.
A stone overweight say The Mirror
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/aston-villas-gabriel-agbonlahor-around-7756977
While he's got only himself to blame, the finger has to also be pointed at those who were too cowardly to call him out on it. That's pretty much everyone at the club and especially the various coaches and managers. Disgraceful that it has taken a stand-in manager to finally call him out.
Just to play devils advocate
Imagine if this was a catalyst for Gabby to snap out of the pathetic malaise he has been in, gets himself as fit as a butchers dog and became the player he was and roars us back to the Premiership. As people have said Vardy is the same age. A gabby of 5 years ago would rip the championship defences apart
Would all be forgiven?
Just to play devils advocatePace gone and it's not coming back
Imagine if this was a catalyst for Gabby to snap out of the pathetic malaise he has been in, gets himself as fit as a butchers dog and became the player he was and roars us back to the Premiership. As people have said Vardy is the same age. A gabby of 5 years ago would rip the championship defences apart
Would all be forgiven?
Just to play devils advocate
Imagine if this was a catalyst for Gabby to snap out of the pathetic malaise he has been in, gets himself as fit as a butchers dog and became the player he was and roars us back to the Premiership. As people have said Vardy is the same age. A gabby of 5 years ago would rip the championship defences apart
Would all be forgiven?
Lerner is to blame to a degree though, that summer, if we had of had any money to spend do you think the manager wouldn't have replaced Gabby with someone else if he had the chance? We spent a pittance that summer .
Just to play devils advocate
Imagine if this was a catalyst for Gabby to snap out of the pathetic malaise he has been in, gets himself as fit as a butchers dog and became the player he was and roars us back to the Premiership. As people have said Vardy is the same age. A gabby of 5 years ago would rip the championship defences apart
Would all be forgiven?
No. I'm sick of him. Get rid.
Learner is to blame for the vast majority of what's wrong at Villa but allowing a star asset to become unfit is down to the coaches surely??Lerner is to blame to a degree though, that summer, if we had of had any money to spend do you think the manager wouldn't have replaced Gabby with someone else if he had the chance? We spent a pittance that summer .
That fact that we didn't buy another striker is hardly the reason why he's put on weight.
Learner is to blame for the vast majority of what's wrong at Villa but allowing a star asset to become unfit is down to the coaches surely??Lerner is to blame to a degree though, that summer, if we had of had any money to spend do you think the manager wouldn't have replaced Gabby with someone else if he had the chance? We spent a pittance that summer .
That fact that we didn't buy another striker is hardly the reason why he's put on weight.
Learner is to blame for the vast majority of what's wrong at Villa but allowing a star asset to become unfit is down to the coaches surely??Lerner is to blame to a degree though, that summer, if we had of had any money to spend do you think the manager wouldn't have replaced Gabby with someone else if he had the chance? We spent a pittance that summer .
That fact that we didn't buy another striker is hardly the reason why he's put on weight.
I think it shouldn't have been made public, it should have been kept in house and sorted out behind closed doors. We've had to put up with enough embarrassment over the last 6 years and another story like this is all we need. Feck me this is the sort of nonsense that used to happen to Small Heath much to our amusement but now it's us that are the butt of everyone's jokes. It has to stop.
I was wondering if we could use Gabby as bait to lure a better, fitter, less insubordinate player into our squad. Do the rules allow us to offer him on loan at bargain rates for a favourable outright purchase of a target player? I hear a lot of good reports about Mahlon Romeos of Millwall. Could we throw in Gabby on loan to them if they sold us Romeos? A sprat to catch a mackerel or prat if you prefer.I think a bloater might be more apt Brian.
I think it shouldn't have been made public, it should have been kept in house and sorted out behind closed doors. We've had to put up with enough embarrassment over the last 6 years and another story like this is all we need. Feck me this is the sort of nonsense that used to happen to Small Heath much to our amusement but now it's us that are the butt of everyone's jokes. It has to stop.
I think it shouldn't have been made public, it should have been kept in house and sorted out behind closed doors. We've had to put up with enough embarrassment over the last 6 years and another story like this is all we need. Feck me this is the sort of nonsense that used to happen to Small Heath much to our amusement but now it's us that are the butt of everyone's jokes. It has to stop.
I agree totally. Another example of how amateur our club is.Just giving fuel to internet idiots. It goes to prove the herd mentality is never far away.
You can't directly blame Lerner for what Gabby has become, but I do think the fat waster's condition is a reflection of the chairman's attitude to the club. Were he capable of any cognitive function, Gabby might have thought, if he can't be bovvered then why should I?
I wonder if he is ill, like depressed? Cue the jokes or sarky comments!!
Not impossible. A good deal of his demeanour and approach to things these days, at least superficially good tickets a few boxes.
It's about the only explanation that would be palatable, as all of the others tend to revolve around various degrees of self aggrandising arsehole.
Oh for Gods sake dont give me the 'he must be ill tag' if you are depressed or ill you dont go swanning off to Dubai
I wonder if he is ill, like depressed? Cue the jokes or sarky comments!!
Not impossible. A good deal of his demeanour and approach to things these days, at least superficially good tickets a few boxes.
It's about the only explanation that would be palatable, as all of the others tend to revolve around various degrees of self aggrandising arsehole.
Oh for Gods sake dont give me the 'he must be ill tag' if you are depressed or ill you dont go swanning off to Dubai
Unless you either suffer yourself or have close dealings with someone who is depressed, your on very thin ice, subtly covered in a light dressing of prejudicial ignorance about what depression is really about.
And no I'm not saying he is definitely depressed, but some of his behaviour could fit it. Of course he could be a bone idle shit who doesn't know how good he's got it.
Are some seriously trying to somehow blame Lerner for Agbonlahor's attitude and lack of fitness?! I'm not a fan of our owner but there is only one person to blame here, you can almost guarantee those saying it should have been kept in house would be demanding to know why he isn't available for the next three matches.
I'm delighted the lazy, fat fuck has been outed and hopefully we won't see him stinking the place out again next season.
Are some seriously trying to somehow blame Lerner for Agbonlahor's attitude and lack of fitness?! I'm not a fan of our owner but there is only one person to blame here, you can almost guarantee those saying it should have been kept in house would be demanding to know why he isn't available for the next three matches.
I'm delighted the lazy, fat fuck has been outed and hopefully we won't see him stinking the place out again next season.
Lerner is to blame to a degree though, that summer, if we had of had any money to spend do you think the manager wouldn't have replaced Gabby with someone else if he had the chance? We spent a pittance that summer .
That fact that we didn't buy another striker is hardly the reason why he's put on weight.
Lerner is to blame to a degree though, that summer, if we had of had any money to spend do you think the manager wouldn't have replaced Gabby with someone else if he had the chance? We spent a pittance that summer .
That fact that we didn't buy another striker is hardly the reason why he's put on weight.
You're missing the point as usual. The weight wasn't the issue being discussed, him being crap is, as he was back when he signed the new contract, he's just got worse. If Aston Villa had of had any decent sum of money to spend then we would not have been likely to have given another contract to a Striker who was averaging 5 goals a season his last few years, we would have replaced him.
McLiesh, Lambert, Sherwood and Garde all failed to deal with this issue that has been apparent to us as supporters for years.
Gabby's contract extension would have been approx £10m over 3 years, which is startling for one, but you can't then say that Villa weren't spending money. They were just spending it incorrectly, as usual.Lerner is to blame to a degree though, that summer, if we had of had any money to spend do you think the manager wouldn't have replaced Gabby with someone else if he had the chance? We spent a pittance that summer .
That fact that we didn't buy another striker is hardly the reason why he's put on weight.
You're missing the point as usual. The weight wasn't the issue being discussed, him being crap is, as he was back when he signed the new contract, he's just got worse. If Aston Villa had of had any decent sum of money to spend then we would not have been likely to have given another contract to a Striker who was averaging 5 goals a season his last few years, we would have replaced him.
Lerner is to blame to a degree though, that summer, if we had of had any money to spend do you think the manager wouldn't have replaced Gabby with someone else if he had the chance? We spent a pittance that summer .
That fact that we didn't buy another striker is hardly the reason why he's put on weight.
You're missing the point as usual. The weight wasn't the issue being discussed, him being crap is, as he was back when he signed the new contract, he's just got worse. If Aston Villa had of had any decent sum of money to spend then we would not have been likely to have given another contract to a Striker who was averaging 5 goals a season his last few years, we would have replaced him.
A decent sum of money in addition to the £15m that we spent on strikers in the summer?
Gabby's contract extension would have been approx £10m over 3 years, which is startling for one, but you can't then say that Villa weren't spending money. They were just spending it incorrectly, as usual.Lerner is to blame to a degree though, that summer, if we had of had any money to spend do you think the manager wouldn't have replaced Gabby with someone else if he had the chance? We spent a pittance that summer .
That fact that we didn't buy another striker is hardly the reason why he's put on weight.
You're missing the point as usual. The weight wasn't the issue being discussed, him being crap is, as he was back when he signed the new contract, he's just got worse. If Aston Villa had of had any decent sum of money to spend then we would not have been likely to have given another contract to a Striker who was averaging 5 goals a season his last few years, we would have replaced him.
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2016/04/15/eric-black-admits-that-aston-villa-fans-may-not-agree-with-his-t/
some pretty damning quotes in there from Eric Black - apologies if posted before
At the end of the day, a professional footballer earning the money he does shouldn't be getting himself into this kind of situation whether he's just signed a new contract or coming to the end of one, especially at a club he's supposed to support.
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2016/04/15/eric-black-admits-that-aston-villa-fans-may-not-agree-with-his-t/
some pretty damning quotes in there from Eric Black - apologies if posted before
Hmm. First quotes I've seen on this. I'm now in the 'he's a ******' camp.
Basically saying he's a c***
I wonder if he is ill, like depressed? Cue the jokes or sarky comments!!
Not impossible. A good deal of his demeanour and approach to things these days, at least superficially good tickets a few boxes.
It's about the only explanation that would be palatable, as all of the others tend to revolve around various degrees of self aggrandising arsehole.
It's impossible to say, but from the pictures of him out and about in London and Dubai, I would hazard a guess that that isn't the reason. He just enjoys the trappings of being a multi-millionaire footballer, and doesn't want to put any effort in, as his contract makes sure he's paid handsomely whether he does or not.
I wonder if he is ill, like depressed? Cue the jokes or sarky comments!!
Not impossible. A good deal of his demeanour and approach to things these days, at least superficially good tickets a few boxes.
It's about the only explanation that would be palatable, as all of the others tend to revolve around various degrees of self aggrandising arsehole.
It's impossible to say, but from the pictures of him out and about in London and Dubai, I would hazard a guess that that isn't the reason. He just enjoys the trappings of being a multi-millionaire footballer, and doesn't want to put any effort in, as his contract makes sure he's paid handsomely whether he does or not.
I don't think for one minute he has depression, but I can tell you from bitter personal experience that people who are depressed are capable of acting normally and laughing and smiling right up to the point they kill themselves. I have dealt with this more times than I care to remember in a professional capacity. Do not underestimate the power of depression and do not think it has a fat lot to do with what what you or I would think of as being 'sad', let alone appearing to be so.
Depression strikes those who are vulnerable to it just as cancer or other illnesses do. *cliche alert* Churchill managed to cope with overwhelming pain and misery/slings and arrows whilst suffering from depression. May the good Lord forgive me for saying anything positive about a Tory. My professional experience over three decades has convinced me there is no correlation between depression and resilience/courage/strength of character etc.You may feel better knowing that Churchill started his political life as a Liberal, Mike.
Depression is a very real and a very serious illness but in my experience, and I lost a lifelong friend to suicide two weeks ago, it strikes those vulnerable to it. The mental make up of some people gives them the ability to endure overwhelming pain and misery. Others crumble under "lesser" loads.I suffer with depression and it is the slightest thing that pushes me over the edge at times. It's hard to cope with it.
I once went to visit my business partner in recovery in a psychiatric hospital. He related that he had broken down, weeping and sobbing brokenheartedly on his doorstep because he could not get his Yale key in the lock.
The lucky ones among us are better equipped to cope with the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune.
Depression is a very real and a very serious illness but in my experience, and I lost a lifelong friend to suicide two weeks ago, it strikes those vulnerable to it. The mental make up of some people gives them the ability to endure overwhelming pain and misery. Others crumble under "lesser" loads.
I once went to visit my business partner in recovery in a psychiatric hospital. He related that he had broken down, weeping and sobbing brokenheartedly on his doorstep because he could not get his Yale key in the lock.
The lucky ones among us are better equipped to cope with the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune.
I wonder if he is ill, like depressed? Cue the jokes or sarky comments!!
Not impossible. A good deal of his demeanour and approach to things these days, at least superficially good tickets a few boxes.
It's about the only explanation that would be palatable, as all of the others tend to revolve around various degrees of self aggrandising arsehole.
It's impossible to say, but from the pictures of him out and about in London and Dubai, I would hazard a guess that that isn't the reason. He just enjoys the trappings of being a multi-millionaire footballer, and doesn't want to put any effort in, as his contract makes sure he's paid handsomely whether he does or not.
I don't think for one minute he has depression, but I can tell you from bitter personal experience that people who are depressed are capable of acting normally and laughing and smiling right up to the point they kill themselves. I have dealt with this more times than I care to remember in a professional capacity. Do not underestimate the power of depression and do not think it has a fat lot to do with what what you or I would think of as being 'sad', let alone appearing to be so.
You're making an awful lot of assumptions there Mike. I'm fully aware the depression is more than feeling a bit down. I also know that it's a serious illness and shouldn't be used as an excuse to exonerate an arse like Agbnlahor when there's no way of saying that that's the problem.
I wonder if he is ill, like depressed? Cue the jokes or sarky comments!!
Not impossible. A good deal of his demeanour and approach to things these days, at least superficially good tickets a few boxes.
It's about the only explanation that would be palatable, as all of the others tend to revolve around various degrees of self aggrandising arsehole.
It's impossible to say, but from the pictures of him out and about in London and Dubai, I would hazard a guess that that isn't the reason. He just enjoys the trappings of being a multi-millionaire footballer, and doesn't want to put any effort in, as his contract makes sure he's paid handsomely whether he does or not.
I don't think for one minute he has depression, but I can tell you from bitter personal experience that people who are depressed are capable of acting normally and laughing and smiling right up to the point they kill themselves. I have dealt with this more times than I care to remember in a professional capacity. Do not underestimate the power of depression and do not think it has a fat lot to do with what what you or I would think of as being 'sad', let alone appearing to be so.
You're making an awful lot of assumptions there Mike. I'm fully aware the depression is more than feeling a bit down. I also know that it's a serious illness and shouldn't be used as an excuse to exonerate an arse like Agbnlahor when there's no way of saying that that's the problem.
The original question was could he be suffering from depression.
My answer, which appears to have kicked the whole debate off, was that it's not impossible, as a a good deal of his behaviour ticks some of the boxes.
Even the whole Dubai thing could fit, depending on the background to the decision. Running away from your problems because you can't face can be another facet of the illness.
And that's part of the problem, it's rarely a clean cut diagnosis based on one specific behavioural trait, but a collage built up from many angles, where the intent can be as important as the action.
Even The Hamilton Scale Test, which is still the primary screening for anyone suspected of suffering despite being subject to various criticisms, looks at between 17 and 29 behavioural cues.
Depressives are also notoriously good at hiding the complete picture and thereby an early diagnosis. In hindsight my psychiatrist thinks that I had an undiagnosed depression for the best part of 20 years before I finally cracked 6 years ago.
Depression is a very real and a very serious illness but in my experience, and I lost a lifelong friend to suicide two weeks ago, it strikes those vulnerable to it. The mental make up of some people gives them the ability to endure overwhelming pain and misery. Others crumble under "lesser" loads.
I once went to visit my business partner in recovery in a psychiatric hospital. He related that he had broken down, weeping and sobbing brokenheartedly on his doorstep because he could not get his Yale key in the lock.
The lucky ones among us are better equipped to cope with the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune.
Brian you are correct. However im not sure where this Gabby has depression idea has come from. Where is the evidence? I think he just cant be bothered anymore. Amazing he has gone from hero to zero in about 3 years. Unfortunately for him when he is being discussed in 10 years time it will be the current bad times that are remembered.
Depends what else is happening in Gabby's life really...I don't think anyone would get proper depression from simply the football team they're playing for losing every week otherwise half the nation's footballers would have it.
It's not necessarily about what's going on in your life, but how you're screwed together.
I did read a niece of his was seriously ill so that's probably on his mind, he is only human after all despite being a multi millionaire.
Although something like this could trigger an episode.
Above all for his own good he needs to leave this summer. I've defended him repeatedly in the past but imo there is no coming back from this. His conduct last few weeks has been a disgrace, let's remember aswell he missed a few games in November to supposedly go on a fitness boot camp to the states so how on earth has he got out of shape again so quickly in 4 months?
He didn't come back fit or in shape and probably hasn't been properly match fit for the last 2 seasons.
Depression is a very real and a very serious illness but in my experience, and I lost a lifelong friend to suicide two weeks ago, it strikes those vulnerable to it. The mental make up of some people gives them the ability to endure overwhelming pain and misery. Others crumble under "lesser" loads.
I once went to visit my business partner in recovery in a psychiatric hospital. He related that he had broken down, weeping and sobbing brokenheartedly on his doorstep because he could not get his Yale key in the lock.
The lucky ones among us are better equipped to cope with the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune.
Brian you are correct. However im not sure where this Gabby has depression idea has come from. Where is the evidence? I think he just cant be bothered anymore. Amazing he has gone from hero to zero in about 3 years. Unfortunately for him when he is being discussed in 10 years time it will be the current bad times that are remembered.
I can recall speaking to someone who worked with a close friend of Agbonlahor's a number of years ago. Even then, he said Agbonlahor often talked about retiring from the game. Maybe he just doesn't like football.
I don't particularly like Neil Moxley, he's a Birmingham fan for starters. But, writes a really good article on Fatty in the People today. Compares Fatty to Gary Shaw. Worth a read.
Has that virus gone now?
Has that virus gone now?
Has that virus gone now?Maybe,buts it's spread through the ranks.
We know he doesn't give a shit or follow instructions but how fucking stupid must he be to allow himself to be photographed and for those photos to be uploaded. Not so much on the day we officially got relegated but a couple of days after being publicly hauled over the coals??
I've no idea what all these ladies see in the monosyllabic, lardarse moron who is incapable of growing a moustache and happens to be a multi millionaire.
I've no idea what all these ladies see in the monosyllabic, lardarse moron who is incapable of growing a moustache and happens to be a multi millionaire.
Its his accent and views on the Big Bang
You complete and utter useless fucking wanker Gabby. If there was any real leadership at the club we'd fire this c*** right now. Hopefully someone there for 30 seconds makes a good decision and tosses this dick out first thing tomorrow.
You complete and utter useless fucking wanker Gabby. If there was any real leadership at the club we'd fire this c*** right now. Hopefully someone there for 30 seconds makes a good decision and tosses this dick out first thing tomorrow.
I think the leadership resigned today. Gabby will be fine. He's Villa to the bone.
I think the resignations of King and Bernstein are related to this news about Gabby. The club would have found out about this yesterday. My guess is Bernstein went to Randy to have Gabby fired and Randy refused. This wouldn't be the first time Randy undermined the football board and King and Bernstein just had enough of it.makes sense although both were absent at Old Trafford so decision could have been made last week?
Steve Hodge never did for Villa what Gabby has done. And I never thought I would find someone to dislike more. As a player Gabby is now in my opinion the biggest wanker in Villa history.The fact he's supposed to be villa through and through and has come up through the ranks, lived within sniffing distance of the ground, just makes it all the more galling.
Steve Hodge never did for Villa what Gabby has done. And I never thought I would find someone to dislike more. As a player Gabby is now in my opinion the biggest wanker in Villa history.
This is where the club need to make a statement. Lets see some affirmative action and some leadership. Get Gabby in the office. Pull his contract out, let Hollis wipe his arse with it and shove it down Gabby's greasy gullet and fuck the fucker off out the club for good. Hire a couple of snipers and if they see that fat shit come within one mile of the stadium, they shoot him. It takes a lot for me to say I hate someone with an arsehole burning passion, but I retain a special place right now for Flabby. I detest the bastard. A pox on him. I hope he chokes on one of the hundred pies he scoffs down every week. I've never felt this much burning anger for a Villa player in my 27 years as a fan. Others like Bacuna, Lescott, Richards and Guzan get on my tits. But Gabby? I just hate the twat. Lets face it, he's got the most irksome, punchable face in football.
I hope that the club has the legal right to sack the useless twat.They are more likely to put him in charge of catering.
Why can't you ever find a poisonous snake when you want one?OK he may have been a very stupid boy but we don't wish him physical harm or even death.
I wonder what The General thinks about this behaviour.He probably cannot comprehend how this is possible.Both King and Bernstein are major players in their chosen careers and have done exactly the right thing as Remi Garde should have done.Brian Little will lose a lot of credence unless he does the same this morning.We ate descending into a black void and will be sold to cowboys!
Something that's been mentioned on facebook (and apologies if it's been brought up previously) but Gabby looks quite slim in those piccys. Maybe they're not as recent as Saturday just gone or the fitness programme he's on his working wonders.
Something that's been mentioned on facebook (and apologies if it's been brought up previously) but Gabby looks quite slim in those piccys. Maybe they're not as recent as Saturday just gone or the fitness programme he's on his working wonders.
It'd be just like the Sun to sit on those photos waiting for the moment to inflict the most impact.
Mind you in the grand scheme of things it's a nothing story really. We have far more important stuff to worry about than a washed up footballer getting pissed and high.
I think the resignations of King and Bernstein are related to this news about Gabby. The club would have found out about this yesterday. My guess is Bernstein went to Randy to have Gabby fired and Randy refused. This wouldn't be the first time Randy undermined the football board and King and Bernstein just had enough of it.Not so sure.
Hardly mentioned anywhere else. Somebody mentioned earlier in the thread that Agbonlahor may have a problem outside football.This is how he deals with it.Some take to drinking heavily and die early like George Best and Jimmy Crabtree did.Some suffer from chronic depression.Some take to drugs. The problem for Gabby is what will happen when the money runs out.?
He's looking for a way out and knowing that the worst that can happen is that they pay him off, he is going the right way about it.
Personally as previously mentioned by Dave Cooper, I would play him for every remaining game this season and let him feel the wrath.
What a knob. I have defended him in the past when he was personally slagged with no apparent reason apart from his performances....but now I see why. I just think he's is a bit dim.I've also defended him in the past when I thought this thread got a bit over the top. But fuck him. The fat useless ******.
What a knob. I have defended him in the past when he was personally slagged with no apparent reason apart from his performances....but now I see why. I just think he's is a bit dim.I've also defended him in the past when I thought this thread got a bit over the top. But fuck him. The fat useless c***.
Hardly mentioned anywhere else. Somebody mentioned earlier in the thread that Agbonlahor may have a problem outside football.This is how he deals with it.Some take to drinking heavily and die early like George Best and Jimmy Crabtree did.Some suffer from chronic depression.Some take to drugs. The problem for Gabby is what will happen when the money runs out.?
Two further years on£50k per week should keep him going a while longer
I'm in the "he's leaked this himself looking for a way out" camp.
I'm in the "he's leaked this himself looking for a way out" camp.
That's definitely possible, but the flaw in the theory is that noone wants him there anyway, so all he has to do is ask if he wants out.
Worse than Hodge.
Worse than Hodge.
Indeed.
Aston Villa Football Club has today suspended Gabby Agbonlahor pending an internal investigation.
He is a disgusting, pathetic, loathesome individual. Just piss off you horrible fat bastard.
Aston Villa Football Club has today suspended Gabby Agbonlahor pending an internal investigation.
I'm in the he wants out with the maximum pay out brigade.Someone mentioned Bentley earlier,and how he walked away at 28/29.I can see more of these prima donna's(apt in Gabriel's case) taking this route.Gabby's got a mini property empire,and by the looks of things an ambition to party.Why put yourself through pre-season,why suffer the live of a hermit 10months a year,when you don't financially need to?
If he can wrangle a 3/4 million settlement off us,Result!Where he has been terribly advised is to complicate it all by obviously partaking before he'd got the result.He could have carried on in his usual half effort,coasting and I reckon he'd still have achieved his aim.As it is,the wrath of ourselves will always judge and mock him.That's why he'll be off to Dubai/UAE/Qatar within 6 months.
Aston Villa Football Club has today suspended Gabby Agbonlahor pending an internal investigation.
Suspended him from what, exactly?
Who's left to carry out the investigation?
Smart move by Flabby. Went out to Dubai, acted like a twat, got suspended, missed a home game against Chelsea. Then shock horror a virus and he misses the home game against Bournemouth. Goes to fat camp but to make sure he goes to London and acts like a twat the day we are relegated. Suspended again - so now likely to miss remaining games. In other words - at no point for the rest of this season does he have to face the wrath of the fans that fund this leech's lifestyle. Not as dim as he seems
Goodbye Agbonlahor, all those chants by opposition fans were correct.
Surely though with the money they are now paid, all players should have conduct and professionalism clauses written into their contracts that allow termination. In F1, for example, I am sure they lots of clauses around weight, conduct, in season drinking etc. Footballers contracts should be the same. Sorry but they are assets worth millions. If they are to be paid that, the clubs should take a group stance and insist on fitness/ weight/ condition/ conduct clauses being in those contracts. They may well do so already.Agreed, but these are 'Aston Villa' contracts remember...... :S
Agreed, but these are 'Aston Villa' contracts remember...... :S
Death to this c***.Get it off your chest Nik! <<applause>>
Sad, dark, miserable times. You balloon sucking, stupid cap wearing, fat shit. Rot, you fucker.
Surely though with the money they are now paid, all players should have conduct and professionalism clauses written into their contracts that allow termination. In F1, for example, I am sure they lots of clauses around weight, conduct, in season drinking etc. Footballers contracts should be the same. Sorry but they are assets worth millions. If they are to be paid that, the clubs should take a group stance and insist on fitness/ weight/ condition/ conduct clauses being in those contracts. They may well do so already.Didn't they used to weigh them and test the fat levels at the end of the season and again when they returned for pre season and being fined if overweight etc?
cant help but think that something must be going on in gabbys life behind the scenes,
Aston Villa Football Club has today suspended Gabby Agbonlahor pending an internal investigation.
Wasn't he already suspended for being a fat fuck?
Is he on double-secret probation now?
Sack him. Gross misconduct. Fuck it. Make an example out of the c*** bag, even if it goes to tribunal.
Death to this c***.
Sad, dark, miserable times. You balloon sucking, stupid cap wearing, fat shit. Rot, you fucker.
cant help but think that something must be going on in gabbys life behind the scenes,
I think it's more a case of arrogant cocksocket who has been paid a ridiculous amount of money to coast along for the last few seasons and has been indulged by a club lacking any sense of leadership. Look at the size of him, it's not a sudden weight gain, he looked like that last season and it's only now they've noticed he isn't fit to play football.
I really hope he gets to play one more game at Villa Park this season.
According to the Beeb he's been suspended again.....
Who the hell is going to be carrying out the disciplinary?
Hollis surely has bigger matters to attend to.
Black has no authority.
Bevington? The General?
Smart move by Flabby. Went out to Dubai, acted like a twat, got suspended, missed a home game against Chelsea. Then shock horror a virus and he misses the home game against Bournemouth. Goes to fat camp but to make sure he goes to London and acts like a twat the day we are relegated. Suspended again - so now likely to miss remaining games. In other words - at no point for the rest of this season does he have to face the wrath of the fans that fund this leech's lifestyle. Not as dim as he seems
My thoughts exactly. If I were running the club, he'd be thrown to the Lions by bringing him on as a sub 5 minutes into in both remaining home games - JUST to let the Villa fans tell him exactly what they think of him. I'd be up there for the 1st time this season if this were on offer!
Who the hell is going to be carrying out the disciplinary?
Hollis surely has bigger matters to attend to.
Black has no authority.
Bevington? The General?
But Lerner will not sack him because it might just might cost him a barrowload of money.
There is an opinion piece in the Mail from an employment lawyer saying he thinks there would be grounds for a written warning but not a sacking. Which is a shame.What if he's already had a written warning.....
There is an opinion piece in the Mail from an employment lawyer saying he thinks there would be grounds for a written warning but not a sacking. Which is a shame.
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There is an opinion piece in the Mail from an employment lawyer saying he thinks there would be grounds for a written warning but not a sacking. Which is a shame.
Bizarrely, it describes him as a "top UNemployment lawyer!"
I'm not sure we know enough to say that this is not gross misconduct or a dismissal matter.
If he is already subject to a current warning or was given an express instruction not to do certain things then it could be a sacking offence.
There is an opinion piece in the Mail from an employment lawyer saying he thinks there would be grounds for a written warning but not a sacking. Which is a shame.That is where the club cocked up. He should have had a written warning already for Dubai.
He should get another one, fella reckons there are no grounds for a sacking.
But Lerner will not sack him because it might just might cost him a barrowload of money.
Probably, I don't think we have any grounds to sack him
It's easy, don't suspend him, put the fucker in the first XI for Saturday. He's getting paid, he plays if Villa want him t play.
If he claims he's injured make him do a medical on the pitch before the game.
I want to roundly boo this fucker until my vocal cords break, why should I be denied that?
But Lerner will not sack him because it might just might cost him a barrowload of money.
Probably, I don't think we have any grounds to sack him
Sack him anyway and then go to a tribunal if needs be. Might cost us, but we'd still be shot of him.
I can't help thinking how unlucky we have been over the last 20 years with the local lads who in a parallel universe could have been loyal upstanding servants to the club. I'm thinking about Collymore, Hendrie, and Gabby mainly. It's a shame that we haven't had the kind of service Man Utd got out of their lot, or Liverpool got out of Gerrard and Carragher.
I can't help thinking how unlucky we have been over the last 20 years with the local lads who in a parallel universe could have been loyal upstanding servants to the club. I'm thinking about Collymore, Hendrie, and Gabby mainly. It's a shame that we haven't had the kind of service Man Utd got out of their lot, or Liverpool got out of Gerrard and Carragher.
Clearly the 'hippy crack' he was taking helped him to overcome the trauma of us being relegated and we have to respect that. Manchester is a long way from Birmingham and it's not difficult to take a wrong turning and suddenly find yourself in London instead in a hotel room with some lovely birds in it to help you with the devastation of your club's demise.The weight has definitely moved from his shoulders.
Along with said 'crack', said birds and a Krispy Kreme or 10 I hope the burden and weight is now lifted from poor Gabriel's shoulders......
More depressing reading: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3548615/Aston-Villa-desperate-rid-Gabby-Agbonlahor-suspending-striker-laughing-gas-antics-following-relegation.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490
Every player in every club is for sale,More depressing reading: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3548615/Aston-Villa-desperate-rid-Gabby-Agbonlahor-suspending-striker-laughing-gas-antics-following-relegation.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490
The depressing thing is that they think they can actually get money for him in the summer.
On the plus side, the article linked at the bottom of the page suggests that they're all on 50% pay cut clauses for relegation.
Every player in every club is for sale,More depressing reading: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3548615/Aston-Villa-desperate-rid-Gabby-Agbonlahor-suspending-striker-laughing-gas-antics-following-relegation.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490
The depressing thing is that they think they can actually get money for him in the summer.
On the plus side, the article linked at the bottom of the page suggests that they're all on 50% pay cut clauses for relegation.
Gabby might be a bit of a challenge to shift.
Every player in every club is for sale,More depressing reading: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3548615/Aston-Villa-desperate-rid-Gabby-Agbonlahor-suspending-striker-laughing-gas-antics-following-relegation.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490
The depressing thing is that they think they can actually get money for him in the summer.
On the plus side, the article linked at the bottom of the page suggests that they're all on 50% pay cut clauses for relegation.
Gabby might be a bit of a challenge to shift.
Surely if we make it clear on the ebay listing they'll need a medium sized van and it's definitely a two man job?
When owner Randy Lerner handed him a new four-year contract in September 2014 because of their personal relationship, then manager Paul Lambert is understood to have felt it more difficult to motivate his squad.
Agbonlahor has been a huge influence in the dressing room for a considerable time and his attitude trickles down.
Joleon Lescott embarrassed the club by ‘accidentally’ tweeting a picture of a luxury car but rather than being upset, the squad are said to be openly joking about it.
One dressing room source said: ‘Senior players have shirked any responsibility this season, acting Billy Bigtime. There was real disappointment among some of the younger lads.’
QuoteWhen owner Randy Lerner handed him a new four-year contract in September 2014 because of their personal relationship, then manager Paul Lambert is understood to have felt it more difficult to motivate his squad.
Agbonlahor has been a huge influence in the dressing room for a considerable time and his attitude trickles down.QuoteJoleon Lescott embarrassed the club by ‘accidentally’ tweeting a picture of a luxury car but rather than being upset, the squad are said to be openly joking about it.QuoteOne dressing room source said: ‘Senior players have shirked any responsibility this season, acting Billy Bigtime. There was real disappointment among some of the younger lads.’
QuoteWhen owner Randy Lerner handed him a new four-year contract in September 2014 because of their personal relationship, then manager Paul Lambert is understood to have felt it more difficult to motivate his squad.
Agbonlahor has been a huge influence in the dressing room for a considerable time and his attitude trickles down.QuoteJoleon Lescott embarrassed the club by ‘accidentally’ tweeting a picture of a luxury car but rather than being upset, the squad are said to be openly joking about it.QuoteOne dressing room source said: ‘Senior players have shirked any responsibility this season, acting Billy Bigtime. There was real disappointment among some of the younger lads.’
QuoteWhen owner Randy Lerner handed him a new four-year contract in September 2014 because of their personal relationship, then manager Paul Lambert is understood to have felt it more difficult to motivate his squad.
Agbonlahor has been a huge influence in the dressing room for a considerable time and his attitude trickles down.QuoteJoleon Lescott embarrassed the club by ‘accidentally’ tweeting a picture of a luxury car but rather than being upset, the squad are said to be openly joking about it.QuoteOne dressing room source said: ‘Senior players have shirked any responsibility this season, acting Billy Bigtime. There was real disappointment among some of the younger lads.’
I remember that 'Bad Santa' video 'starring' some of the players around Christmas time (another great idea). In it Richards dressed as Santa gave Agbonlahor a French Dictionary, to which he replied "for the French boys" before flicking through it as if to look for a word and then coming out with an expletive which was obviously aimed at Garde of the French players. Richards in particular seemed to find this hilarious. Either way, it is obvious from the video that Agbonlahor has been involved in tensions in the dressing room.
Surely if we make it clear on the ebay listing they'll need a medium sized van and it's definitely a two man job?Done
Latter!Surely if we make it clear on the ebay listing they'll need a medium sized van and it's definitely a two man job?Done
What's the plan, Lou? Get him back into shape or train him to take your bins out and live off scraps?
Why can't we just sit down with him and say how much to fuck off you sack of shit?
Anyone else really dislike the proliferation of Achey Breaky Heart tuned songs this season?
That should be banned along with Chico reminding us all every fucking year of our defeat against Oxford in the semi-final.
Some things are best left to rot.
Anyone else really dislike the proliferation of Achey Breaky Heart tuned songs this season?
Look at it the other way though - if it wasn't that then it just means there would be even more versions of Sloop John B.
As I understood it, it was Lambert that recommended the new contract for Gabby.
What a total failure our managerial and scouting decisions have been for half a decade,with the obvious exception of Benteke.You could argue longer than that, given that MON wouldn't sign anyone he hadn't seen for 3 years on Match of the Day.
Someone should hire a skip so that everyone who has ever bought a Flabby shirt can bring it to the Newcastle match and chuck it in.
Either that or have a Bonfire of the Flabbiness and burn the shirts
He can't fall any lower in my estimation but if he thinks he's been persecuted by the media he is, yet again, very wrong.
Stop being an unprofessional c*** and they'll stop printing pictures of you looking an unprofessional c***. c***.
Anyone else really dislike the proliferation of Achey Breaky Heart tuned songs this season?
As I understood it, it was Lambert that recommended the new contract for Gabby.
It probably made a little sense at the time - a local lad/fan, supposedly in his prime, no transfer fee and the backing of the fans. What was the worst that could happen - super sub?
Perhaps a better manager would have seen, like Jolean, he was past it.
'But Agbonlahor is the story of what happens to a club when those at its helm stop caring.'
Ain't that the truth.
This is interesting and revealing http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/the-gabby-agbonlahor-scandal-is-much-bigger-than-one-illicit-photograph-a6993631.html and worrying if true. Can someone so dense hold so much sway?
According to The Torygraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/04/20/aston-villa-call-in-pfa-over-gabriel-agbonlahor/) the club have called in the PFA. I really hope the PFA side with the club coming down heavy on Gabby - sacking for repeatedly bringing the club into disrepute woulds be great but I can't imagine the PFA siding with the club for any sanction on the player. Something to act as a wake up call for Jack wouldn't go amiss.
According to The Torygraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/04/20/aston-villa-call-in-pfa-over-gabriel-agbonlahor/) the club have called in the PFA. I really hope the PFA side with the club coming down heavy on Gabby - sacking for repeatedly bringing the club into disrepute woulds be great but I can't imagine the PFA siding with the club for any sanction on the player. Something to act as a wake up call for Jack wouldn't go amiss.
It would be nice, wouldn't it. But no, I can't see the PFA agreeing to any punishment bar a warning and perhaps light fine.
According to The Torygraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/04/20/aston-villa-call-in-pfa-over-gabriel-agbonlahor/) the club have called in the PFA. I really hope the PFA side with the club coming down heavy on Gabby - sacking for repeatedly bringing the club into disrepute woulds be great but I can't imagine the PFA siding with the club for any sanction on the player. Something to act as a wake up call for Jack wouldn't go amiss.
According to The Torygraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/04/20/aston-villa-call-in-pfa-over-gabriel-agbonlahor/) the club have called in the PFA. I really hope the PFA side with the club coming down heavy on Gabby - sacking for repeatedly bringing the club into disrepute woulds be great but I can't imagine the PFA siding with the club for any sanction on the player. Something to act as a wake up call for Jack wouldn't go amiss.
It would be nice, wouldn't it. But no, I can't see the PFA agreeing to any punishment bar a warning and perhaps light fine.
Punishment for footballers seems to be doing fuck all for a few weeks on full pay.
This is interesting and revealing http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/the-gabby-agbonlahor-scandal-is-much-bigger-than-one-illicit-photograph-a6993631.html and worrying if true. Can someone so dense hold so much sway?
This is interesting and revealing http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/the-gabby-agbonlahor-scandal-is-much-bigger-than-one-illicit-photograph-a6993631.html and worrying if true. Can someone so dense hold so much sway?
Heck, if that is all true (and they do seem to have an incredible amount of 'inside knowledge' across lots of different managers) then it is ridiculous that he has been allowed to behave like this for so long. I had been drawn to the idea that Gabby might, just might have some issues we don't know about. He had a difficult upbringing you would imagine, estranged mother, seemingly little respect for women if the stories are anything to go by. However, increasingly this all just smacks of bizarre arrogance. I mean, if you had scored 20 goals a season for five years running and proved yourself, you might hold a bit more sway. Even at his best, he only managed 13 and those days are long gone.
Neither under-performance or a toxic attitude should be tolerated at a football club but he has combined the two and been rewarded for it. It's absolutely mental.
It's not hard to imagine Flabby, blinged out like Ali G surrounded by a gang of armed thugs from Kingstanding, threatening Lambert et al
And we all know absolutely full well that, that whole article is true. There's no way in hell it's not and we've seen the evidence firmly out on the pitch.This is interesting and revealing http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/the-gabby-agbonlahor-scandal-is-much-bigger-than-one-illicit-photograph-a6993631.html and worrying if true. Can someone so dense hold so much sway?
Heck, if that is all true (and they do seem to have an incredible amount of 'inside knowledge' across lots of different managers) then it is ridiculous that he has been allowed to behave like this for so long. I had been drawn to the idea that Gabby might, just might have some issues we don't know about. He had a difficult upbringing you would imagine, estranged mother, seemingly little respect for women if the stories are anything to go by. However, increasingly this all just smacks of bizarre arrogance. I mean, if you had scored 20 goals a season for five years running and proved yourself, you might hold a bit more sway. Even at his best, he only managed 13 and those days are long gone.
Neither under-performance or a toxic attitude should be tolerated at a football club but he has combined the two and been rewarded for it. It's absolutely mental.
sums up all that is wrong with the modern day footballer, and we seem to have more than our fair share of them - and we give our hard earned to let them enjoy their lifestyles. Who are the mugs here!!!!
It's not hard to imagine Flabby, blinged out like Ali G surrounded by a gang of armed thugs from Kingstanding, threatening Lambert et al
I've often had the same suspicions, and the more I think about it the more feasible it seems.
I heard a certain family from Erdington threatened to break his legs if he didn't pay them off, allegedly.It's not hard to imagine Flabby, blinged out like Ali G surrounded by a gang of armed thugs from Kingstanding, threatening Lambert et al
I've often had the same suspicions, and the more I think about it the more feasible it seems.
Gabby had to pay off a load of armed thugs to stop them bullying his family. Wrong tree.
Strikes me he should just keep his cock in his pants
According to The Torygraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/04/20/aston-villa-call-in-pfa-over-gabriel-agbonlahor/) the club have called in the PFA. I really hope the PFA side with the club coming down heavy on Gabby - sacking for repeatedly bringing the club into disrepute woulds be great but I can't imagine the PFA siding with the club for any sanction on the player. Something to act as a wake up call for Jack wouldn't go amiss.
It would be nice, wouldn't it. But no, I can't see the PFA agreeing to any punishment bar a warning and perhaps light fine.
The story of Flabby and his approach to fitness gets support from the fact that we have been the team that's covered the least miles this season (and Terry made a similar point way back).
The Indie article really makes my piss boil: a culture of complacency while the fans spend their hard-earned on getting to games ...
The remaining games should be accompanied for 90 minutes with a continuous rendition of "you're not fit to wear the shirt ..." (note the double meaning for 'fit').
Nothing to add to this thread other than to say I've just seen his recent Instagram post.
Nothing to add to this thread other than to say I've just seen his recent Instagram post.
According to The Torygraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/04/20/aston-villa-call-in-pfa-over-gabriel-agbonlahor/) the club have called in the PFA. I really hope the PFA side with the club coming down heavy on Gabby - sacking for repeatedly bringing the club into disrepute woulds be great but I can't imagine the PFA siding with the club for any sanction on the player. Something to act as a wake up call for Jack wouldn't go amiss.
It would be nice, wouldn't it. But no, I can't see the PFA agreeing to any punishment bar a warning and perhaps light fine.
There's more chance of Donald Trump implementing an open border policy with Mexico.
And how can anyone who's a supposed professional footballer have "love handles" like these.
(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/football/2016/04/20/Gabriel_Agbonlahor_discipline-large_trans++qMmBbq1-9N_VKpBhH3XBxKde1vHCVWO7sRBdIW3Sbww.jpg)
According to The Torygraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/04/20/aston-villa-call-in-pfa-over-gabriel-agbonlahor/) the club have called in the PFA. I really hope the PFA side with the club coming down heavy on Gabby - sacking for repeatedly bringing the club into disrepute woulds be great but I can't imagine the PFA siding with the club for any sanction on the player. Something to act as a wake up call for Jack wouldn't go amiss.
It would be nice, wouldn't it. But no, I can't see the PFA agreeing to any punishment bar a warning and perhaps light fine.
There's more chance of Donald Trump implementing an open border policy with Mexico.
And how can anyone who's a supposed professional footballer have "love handles" like these.
(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/football/2016/04/20/Gabriel_Agbonlahor_discipline-large_trans++qMmBbq1-9N_VKpBhH3XBxKde1vHCVWO7sRBdIW3Sbww.jpg)
He's got the head of a 50 year old.
According to The Torygraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/04/20/aston-villa-call-in-pfa-over-gabriel-agbonlahor/) the club have called in the PFA. I really hope the PFA side with the club coming down heavy on Gabby - sacking for repeatedly bringing the club into disrepute woulds be great but I can't imagine the PFA siding with the club for any sanction on the player. Something to act as a wake up call for Jack wouldn't go amiss.
It would be nice, wouldn't it. But no, I can't see the PFA agreeing to any punishment bar a warning and perhaps light fine.
There's more chance of Donald Trump implementing an open border policy with Mexico.
And how can anyone who's a supposed professional footballer have "love handles" like these.
(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/football/2016/04/20/Gabriel_Agbonlahor_discipline-large_trans++qMmBbq1-9N_VKpBhH3XBxKde1vHCVWO7sRBdIW3Sbww.jpg)
He's got the head of a 50 year old.
And the brain of a 13 year old.
According to The Torygraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/04/20/aston-villa-call-in-pfa-over-gabriel-agbonlahor/) the club have called in the PFA. I really hope the PFA side with the club coming down heavy on Gabby - sacking for repeatedly bringing the club into disrepute woulds be great but I can't imagine the PFA siding with the club for any sanction on the player. Something to act as a wake up call for Jack wouldn't go amiss.
It would be nice, wouldn't it. But no, I can't see the PFA agreeing to any punishment bar a warning and perhaps light fine.
There's more chance of Donald Trump implementing an open border policy with Mexico.
And how can anyone who's a supposed professional footballer have "love handles" like these.
(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/football/2016/04/20/Gabriel_Agbonlahor_discipline-large_trans++qMmBbq1-9N_VKpBhH3XBxKde1vHCVWO7sRBdIW3Sbww.jpg)
He's got the head of a 50 year old.
And the brain of a 13 year old.
And the brain of a 13 year old.
And the brain of a 13 year old.
That's an insult to my son and his mates. Well, apart from one of them.
According to The Torygraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/04/20/aston-villa-call-in-pfa-over-gabriel-agbonlahor/) the club have called in the PFA. I really hope the PFA side with the club coming down heavy on Gabby - sacking for repeatedly bringing the club into disrepute woulds be great but I can't imagine the PFA siding with the club for any sanction on the player. Something to act as a wake up call for Jack wouldn't go amiss.
It would be nice, wouldn't it. But no, I can't see the PFA agreeing to any punishment bar a warning and perhaps light fine.
There's more chance of Donald Trump implementing an open border policy with Mexico.
And how can anyone who's a supposed professional footballer have "love handles" like these.
(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/football/2016/04/20/Gabriel_Agbonlahor_discipline-large_trans++qMmBbq1-9N_VKpBhH3XBxKde1vHCVWO7sRBdIW3Sbww.jpg)
He's got the head of a 50 year old.
Watched the 6-1 against sunderland. Oh what it would be to have gabby putting in a shift and becoming the legend we all thought he could be. I may be unpopular in saying stick with him as a season in the championship will do him some good. He needs to get us back on side not by what he does off the pitch (I couldnt give a fuck) but by what he does on it. Come on Gabby, prove you are villa through and through and that you actually care
When your mum states she could see this coming and him going off the rails then it's pretty bad.Well she kind of lost credibility in saying that when she added that she hasn't seen him since he was 2 years old. He must have been one hell of a rebellious toddler if she could see that coming.
Too bad. He could have been so much more and decided not to be.
Well, he's apologised and stepped down as captain.
Link?
Loyal to yourself, more like. Loyal to receiving your pay packet. Loyalty is turning up week-in week-out, not when you can be arsed. I'm not interested in this apology. Resign from the club - you've already done the damage.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChIxCjOWYAE5ovi.jpg)
We've all thoroughly enjoyed his 'celebrations and passion' these last few seasons.
Bugger off now, there's a good lad.
Make Lescott Club Captain for the rest of the season
Apparently he is available for selection from Monday.
Fuck off.
Everyone deserves a second chance
He's also received a substantial fine, we can expect Greggs to go into administration any day now.Which must mean that a sacking isn't imminent, sadly.
He's also received a substantial fine, we can expect Greggs to go into administration any day now.Which must mean that a sacking isn't imminent, sadly.
Everyone deserves a second chance
He's not leaving the club. He's going to be here next season. The only way he gets forgiveness is if he comes in to pre-season training looking half the bloke he is today. Jamie Vardy has shown at a similar age that it is still possible to be highly valuable. Gabby at his best is exactly what Vardy is today, but it is a long, long road back. If he loses a couple of stone his pace would still be devastating at Championship level.
If he loses a couple of stone his pace would still be devastating at Championship level.
Everyone deserves a second chance
He's not leaving the club. He's going to be here next season. The only way he gets forgiveness is if he comes in to pre-season training looking half the bloke he is today. Jamie Vardy has shown at a similar age that it is still possible to be highly valuable. Gabby at his best is exactly what Vardy is today, but it is a long, long road back. If he loses a couple of stone his pace would still be devastating at Championship level.
Toronto, you are a very forgiving person, fair play to ya
He's not leaving the club. He's going to be here next season. The only way he gets forgiveness is if he comes in to pre-season training looking half the bloke he is today. Jamie Vardy has shown at a similar age that it is still possible to be highly valuable. Gabby at his best is exactly what Vardy is today, but it is a long, long road back. If he loses a couple of stone his pace would still be devastating at Championship level.
Toronto, you are a very forgiving person, fair play to ya
Not really. I've not forgiven him for anything. But he's not getting fired unless he is thick enough to do something else stupid. So the reality is we are stuck with him for the balance of his contract. Hopefully he will refocus himself on his profession over the summer and come back to contribute positively to our return to the PL. He certainly should not be shown any favours at all and it is all on him to win back supporters trust. And for anyone that doesn't ever want trust him again, I don't blame them one bit.
he's a busted flush always jam tomorrow
i still havent forgotten him going out on the piss with the arsenal players after the cup final with the arsenal players
fuck me its not like he has been in any sort of form during the last 5 years
add to that his weight, bad influence, vertigo, shisha, lauging gas, the eight touches against spuds and crying off before the bournemouth game.
the c*** can fuck right off
...anyone else remember JLloyd Samuel's place on MTV's " Cribs "....yes THAT JLloyd Samuel......now there's a candidate for worst ever player I have been trying to think of someone other than Gary Parker all evening !
...anyone else remember JLloyd Samuel's place on MTV's " Cribs "....yes THAT JLloyd Samuel......now there's a candidate for worst ever player I have been trying to think of someone other than Gary Parker all evening !
Garry Parker? Worst player? Are you on crack Bob?
...anyone else remember JLloyd Samuel's place on MTV's " Cribs "....yes THAT JLloyd Samuel......now there's a candidate for worst ever player I have been trying to think of someone other than Gary Parker all evening !
...anyone else remember JLloyd Samuel's place on MTV's " Cribs "....yes THAT JLloyd Samuel......now there's a candidate for worst ever player I have been trying to think of someone other than Gary Parker all evening !
What I'd give to have a Garry Parker in this clusterfuck of a squad, he was superb for the Villa!...anyone else remember JLloyd Samuel's place on MTV's " Cribs "....yes THAT JLloyd Samuel......now there's a candidate for worst ever player I have been trying to think of someone other than Gary Parker all evening !
You for real? Parker was class in '92-'93.
As Villa have spent the last 15-20 years or so blighted by near misses and 'didn't we almost have it all'. i think we could name a team along those lines. Should have been top notch, were good enough, but fell away for one reason or another (not those that were transferred and went on to better things just those that just should have done better).
I'll go with:
Guzan
Watson
Unsworth
Alpay
Samuel
Albrighton
Stone
Gardner C
Reo-Coker
Agbonlahor
Balaban
I strongly suspect that Gary Penrice was the original intended worst player target. Gary Parker was a very good player.
My theory is undermined somewhat by the inclusion of Jloyd Samuel who was an okay player saddled at birth with a silly name. If he had been Kevin Samuel or Wally Samuel he would have got better reviews.
Better contenders to be fairAnd Ireland. I think Balaban deserves his place.
Gardner for Curcic and Stan for Balaban
All is forgiven. Say 10 hail marys and wank off a tramp.It's close enough to convince me you're a left footer...
I've never been to confession.
He is on a contract that pays him lots of money and he will sit tight for another two years and have a good laugh at the incompetents who gave it to him...on a plate....which he immediately devoured!i think you are right.
Not a chance we will get him out of Villa Park.
All is forgiven. Say 10 hail marys and wank off a tramp.It's close enough to convince me you're a left footer...
I've never been to confession.
He's been on holiday in Weymouth apparently.
Wanker
Wanker
This
Can't stand him. Fuck him off
He's not going anywhere.yes I think we've got to accept that......
Yes, I know. But it isn't going to happen and it just doesn't help. So, what it more important, satisfying your need to slag off a player who has badly under performed, or accepting that the new manager may wish to use him to help us get promoted?
It's time to grow up.
Yes, I know. But it isn't going to happen and it just doesn't help. So, what it more important, satisfying your need to slag off a player who has badly under performed, or accepting that the new manager may wish to use him to help us get promoted?
It's time to grow up.
He needs to get out of our club. Out of the dressing room. His professionalism last season when we needed him most was non existent. I can understand a player being in bad form. But for a professional player not to be physically conditioned to play, that is inexcusable. Out out out!
He's deluded. Spouting nonsense about how talented the squad is. If they're so great, how come we've only been winning a game every four months? Arse.
I think grow up is fair enough. It's pretty immature to put your hatred of a player over the needs of the team - assuming the manager does want to use him.
I think grow up is fair enough. It's pretty immature to put your hatred of a player over the needs of the team - assuming the manager does want to use him.
We needed him last season though, mate. And he let us down, immensely. I completely understand your point of view, but surely we are done with such players and such attitudes?
I think grow up is fair enough. It's pretty immature to put your hatred of a player over the needs of the team - assuming the manager does want to use him.
We needed him last season though, mate. And he let us down, immensely. I completely understand your point of view, but surely we are done with such players and such attitudes?
I think grow up is fair enough. It's pretty immature to put your hatred of a player over the needs of the team - assuming the manager does want to use him.
We needed him last season though, mate. And he let us down, immensely. I completely understand your point of view, but surely we are done with such players and such attitudes?
Hopefully yes we are. But if we do not find a willing buyer what do you suggest?
He let us down badly last season, but if he stays it's because the new management team have seen his dedication to change his ways. There's no such thing as too late in that regard, and especially in football when so much is tied to contracts and the ability to move a player on. If Gabby comes back determined to put right what he did, he appears to have shown in that in his willingness to become fit again, then he's going to be an asset to us. The fat wanker he became was no use, but his appearance and attitude over the past few years was what Aston Villa became. No better person to embody it than our longest serving active player.
So waste £5-6m (or whatever the total cost of his contract is) paying off a player who the manager may find useful? So we actively waste a sizable portion of our transfer budget to weaken the squad? That makes no sense to me.I think grow up is fair enough. It's pretty immature to put your hatred of a player over the needs of the team - assuming the manager does want to use him.
We needed him last season though, mate. And he let us down, immensely. I completely understand your point of view, but surely we are done with such players and such attitudes?
Hopefully yes we are. But if we do not find a willing buyer what do you suggest?
Good point. I'd suggest paying him off and releasing him/cancelling his contract. Whether that scenario is a possibility in the modern game, I've no idea.
I just feel that he's been a trouble maker, hasnt had the clubs best interests at heart, and has made a mockery, somewhat, of the fans who've paid good money to support the team.
I guess we just have to see what happens.
So waste £5-6m (or whatever the total cost of his contract is) paying off a player who the manager may find useful? So we actively waste a sizable portion of our transfer budget to weaken the squad? That makes no sense to me.I think grow up is fair enough. It's pretty immature to put your hatred of a player over the needs of the team - assuming the manager does want to use him.
We needed him last season though, mate. And he let us down, immensely. I completely understand your point of view, but surely we are done with such players and such attitudes?
Hopefully yes we are. But if we do not find a willing buyer what do you suggest?
Good point. I'd suggest paying him off and releasing him/cancelling his contract. Whether that scenario is a possibility in the modern game, I've no idea.
I just feel that he's been a trouble maker, hasnt had the clubs best interests at heart, and has made a mockery, somewhat, of the fans who've paid good money to support the team.
I guess we just have to see what happens.
He let us down badly last season, but if he stays it's because the new management team have seen his dedication to change his ways. There's no such thing as too late in that regard, and especially in football when so much is tied to contracts and the ability to move a player on. If Gabby comes back determined to put right what he did, he appears to have shown in that in his willingness to become fit again, then he's going to be an asset to us. The fat wanker he became was no use, but his appearance and attitude over the past few years was what Aston Villa became. No better person to embody it than our longest serving active player.Or more likely can't find a buyer.
He needs to get out of our club. Out of the dressing room. His professionalism last season when we needed him most was non existent. I can understand a player being in bad form. But for a professional player not to be physically conditioned to play, that is inexcusable. Out out out!
Look, I totally get the sentiment - I don't like the guy either. But if the manager wants to play him, what then? Will you seek undermine this because of the way you feel, or let the manager make decisions he believes are best for the team?
That is the simple point I am making.
So waste £5-6m (or whatever the total cost of his contract is) paying off a player who the manager may find useful? So we actively waste a sizable portion of our transfer budget to weaken the squad? That makes no sense to me.I think grow up is fair enough. It's pretty immature to put your hatred of a player over the needs of the team - assuming the manager does want to use him.
We needed him last season though, mate. And he let us down, immensely. I completely understand your point of view, but surely we are done with such players and such attitudes?
Hopefully yes we are. But if we do not find a willing buyer what do you suggest?
Good point. I'd suggest paying him off and releasing him/cancelling his contract. Whether that scenario is a possibility in the modern game, I've no idea.
I just feel that he's been a trouble maker, hasnt had the clubs best interests at heart, and has made a mockery, somewhat, of the fans who've paid good money to support the team.
I guess we just have to see what happens.
Look, he's not going to be paid off. It simply isn't going to happen.Personally speaking, nothing, I hope. No booing (perhaps other than at the start of his first game, or when he comes on just to let him know we don't forget), then absolutely nothing. No chants for him, no booing of him. If he somehow manages to score for us, then the cheers should be for the fact that villa have scored, and nothing more.
So, if the manager wants to use him, what now?
Look, he's not going to be paid off. It simply isn't going to happen.
So, if the manager wants to use him, what now?
Okay. We'll get rid of him. To whom do you suggest? We have a budget of 30m or so, you want to spend 5-6m that on getting rid of a player or buying one or two?
The smart move, and at long last we have some shrewd guys in the dugout, is to let him come back, he will score a few at Championship level. Once he appears to have made a come back, flog him. Preferably in the upcoming January window.
Hmmm... Interview with Gabby as well as a video of him working out http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-gabby-agbonlahor-message-11560033
Chelts, is the 50% drop in wages standard in most of the squad who relegated us or does it vary a lot from player to player?
he wants to improve? what a c***
pity he hasnt given a flying fuck over the past 5 seasons
Sorry to be thick Stuart but is that 30/50% of what they were getting or 30/50% reduction to what they were getting?
The problem is that if he does stay, and gets a few goals, then the crowd will start to sing that stupid song again and the EGO will be back!
It proves how stupid some footballers are at our team, they have got relegated, taking a massive pay cut, and no clubs are interested in signing them, this is how poor they actually are.
For me he needs to be gone ASAP along with a fair few of the others!
he wants to improve? what a c***
The point is that talk is cheap. I bet you could find interviews with him last year saying how he and the team were giving everything to get us out of the shit we were in, but it wasn't true then, so why should it be true now? I'm interested in people's actions rather than their words, and to be frank over the past 6 years most of what he has done has made him worse. He has a long long way to go before he can be considered worthy of anything but contempt, as admirable as your defence of him is.he wants to improve? what a c***
Absolutely. If only he had said he doesn't want to improve, that would have been much better.
The point is that talk is cheap. I bet you could find interviews with him last year saying how he and the team were giving everything to get us out of the shit we were in, but it wasn't true then, so why should it be true now? I'm interested in people's actions rather than their words, and to be frank over the past 6 years most of what he has done has made him worse. He has a long long way to go before he can be considered worthy of anything but contempt, as admirable as your defence of him is.he wants to improve? what a c***
Absolutely. If only he had said he doesn't want to improve, that would have been much better.
I'm certainly not dictating who he can or cannot use, but I do feel that gabby has benefited from the revolving door of managers, getting a reprieve as a result and I'm concerned that it may happen again. In any event, we don't know whether di matteo rates him or not, nor whether there's a likelihood of a buyer for him. In the interim, regardless of whether he's staying, he should shut up (in public and in the dressing room), put his head down and graft like he's never done so before.The point is that talk is cheap. I bet you could find interviews with him last year saying how he and the team were giving everything to get us out of the shit we were in, but it wasn't true then, so why should it be true now? I'm interested in people's actions rather than their words, and to be frank over the past 6 years most of what he has done has made him worse. He has a long long way to go before he can be considered worthy of anything but contempt, as admirable as your defence of him is.he wants to improve? what a c***
Absolutely. If only he had said he doesn't want to improve, that would have been much better.
Find my defense of him please.
I have consistently said I don't like him and he was shit last year. But I have also said If the manager wants to use him then I can live with that. I think Dimatteo should be allowed to make the call and as fans we shouldn't try to undermine this to satisfy our own feelings about the player.
All I care about is promotion. Why don't we let DiMatteo deliver that the way he sees fit rather than trying to dictate to him who he can and can't use?
Get rid of the fat fucking leach. Let him cup his ears in front of other fans when he scores his one goal in 5 games or whatever his shit scoring record is. I thought we had a new broom under Dr Tony and that we'd be sweeping shit like Agbonlahor into the history books.Oh well, if you say so Chico. Forget what the manager charged with getting us promoted thinks, so long as you are happy eh?
Get rid of the fat fucking leach. Let him cup his ears in front of other fans when he scores his one goal in 5 games or whatever his shit scoring record is. I thought we had a new broom under Dr Tony and that we'd be sweeping shit like Agbonlahor into the history books.Oh well, if you say so Chico. Forget what the manager charged with getting us promoted thinks, so long as you are happy eh?
Totally agree, Agbonlahor is poison, a waste of space who should not allowed to disrupt the club, the players and the manager any longer.Get rid of the fat fucking leach. Let him cup his ears in front of other fans when he scores his one goal in 5 games or whatever his shit scoring record is. I thought we had a new broom under Dr Tony and that we'd be sweeping shit like Agbonlahor into the history books.Oh well, if you say so Chico. Forget what the manager charged with getting us promoted thinks, so long as you are happy eh?
It's my opinion, Chrisw1, and it's been my opinion for a while now. And to suggest I'm happy about it is ridiculous. It makes me fucking livid to think that a piece of shit like Gabby should be given a second chance anywhere in the game, let alone at Villa. And I never blindly follow the opinions of our managers, unlike others on here. And I've been right to do so in the case of the last 4 managers we've had to put up with.
What's your opinion? to agree with whoever the manager is? so long as you're happy, eh?
Get rid of the fat fucking leach. Let him cup his ears in front of other fans when he scores his one goal in 5 games or whatever his shit scoring record is. I thought we had a new broom under Dr Tony and that we'd be sweeping shit like Agbonlahor into the history books.Oh well, if you say so Chico. Forget what the manager charged with getting us promoted thinks, so long as you are happy eh?
It's my opinion, Chrisw1, and it's been my opinion for a while now. And to suggest I'm happy about it is ridiculous. It makes me fucking livid to think that a piece of shit like Gabby should be given a second chance anywhere in the game, let alone at Villa. And I never blindly follow the opinions of our managers, unlike others on here. And I've been right to do so in the case of the last 4 managers we've had to put up with.
What's your opinion? to agree with whoever the manager is? so long as you're happy, eh?
Get rid of the fat fucking leach. Let him cup his ears in front of other fans when he scores his one goal in 5 games or whatever his shit scoring record is. I thought we had a new broom under Dr Tony and that we'd be sweeping shit like Agbonlahor into the history books.Oh well, if you say so Chico. Forget what the manager charged with getting us promoted thinks, so long as you are happy eh?
It's my opinion, Chrisw1, and it's been my opinion for a while now. And to suggest I'm happy about it is ridiculous. It makes me fucking livid to think that a piece of shit like Gabby should be given a second chance anywhere in the game, let alone at Villa. And I never blindly follow the opinions of our managers, unlike others on here. And I've been right to do so in the case of the last 4 managers we've had to put up with.
What's your opinion? to agree with whoever the manager is? so long as you're happy, eh?
My opinion is that all that matters to me is promotion. It is also that DiMatteo and Steve Clarke are FAR better placed to make this decision than you or I. All I have said is that if they want to use him, then I would back that rather than chuck my toys out the pram.
Get rid of the fat fucking leach. Let him cup his ears in front of other fans when he scores his one goal in 5 games or whatever his shit scoring record is. I thought we had a new broom under Dr Tony and that we'd be sweeping shit like Agbonlahor into the history books.Oh well, if you say so Chico. Forget what the manager charged with getting us promoted thinks, so long as you are happy eh?
you'd have to probably say skinny leech now, if you'd seen the pics of the players rocking up to first day of pre-season.Get rid of the fat fucking leach. Let him cup his ears in front of other fans when he scores his one goal in 5 games or whatever his shit scoring record is. I thought we had a new broom under Dr Tony and that we'd be sweeping shit like Agbonlahor into the history books.Oh well, if you say so Chico. Forget what the manager charged with getting us promoted thinks, so long as you are happy eh?
It's my opinion, Chrisw1, and it's been my opinion for a while now. And to suggest I'm happy about it is ridiculous. It makes me fucking livid to think that a piece of shit like Gabby should be given a second chance anywhere in the game, let alone at Villa. And I never blindly follow the opinions of our managers, unlike others on here. And I've been right to do so in the case of the last 4 managers we've had to put up with.
What's your opinion? to agree with whoever the manager is? so long as you're happy, eh?
My opinion is that all that matters to me is promotion. It is also that DiMatteo and Steve Clarke are FAR better placed to make this decision than you or I. All I have said is that if they want to use him, then I would back that rather than chuck my toys out the pram.
That's fair enough. But, by applying that logic, wouldn't you still be supporting Remi Garde? you weren't too keen on entertaining the opinions of those of us who wanted him out long before he chucked his toys out of the pram.
Anyway, let's not bother going round in circles - we clearly disagree
Genuine question this but what evidence do we have that he is a disruptive influence in the squad? Is it rumour and hearsay or do we have a reliable source that he is negative about the structure and management of AVFC? My opinion is that the disciplinary measures should have been more enforced and the lack of fitness was enough to void his contract though I am not an employment law specialist by any means..
There's no proof he's been disruptive in the changing room. He's been shit on the pitch and been pictured on holiday during the season. Fans have put 2 and 2 together and come up with something ridiculous. I hope he gets it together and scores a shit load of goals next season.I'm not so sure that's actually correct. There's been rumblings for years from people well-placed to know that he's been a wrong un.
There's no proof he's been disruptive in the changing room. He's been shit on the pitch and been pictured on holiday during the season. Fans have put 2 and 2 together and come up with something ridiculous. I hope he gets it together and scores a shit load of goals next season.I'm not so sure that's actually correct. There's been rumblings for years from people well-placed to know that he's been a wrong un.
I'm pretty sure he'll only leave once his contract runs out.
Genuine question this but what evidence do we have that he is a disruptive influence in the squad? Is it rumour and hearsay or do we have a reliable source that he is negative about the structure and management of AVFC? My opinion is that the disciplinary measures should have been more enforced and the lack of fitness was enough to void his contract though I am not an employment law specialist by any means..
I think the evidence that he was club captain and didn't take his fitness seriously. Damming enough. Add to that partying in Dubai and London during the clubs most disastrous period then this is certainly disruptive. All that said if he stays, plays, puts in effort and works hard, I would not be bothered about seeing him play. Would rather he didn't and we got better assets, but given the circumstance would rather a fit / productive gabby than paying him off £6m to sit on his arse...
There's no proof he's been disruptive in the changing room. He's been shit on the pitch and been pictured on holiday during the season. Fans have put 2 and 2 together and come up with something ridiculous. I hope he gets it together and scores a shit load of goals next season.
There's no proof he's been disruptive in the changing room. He's been shit on the pitch and been pictured on holiday during the season. Fans have put 2 and 2 together and come up with something ridiculous. I hope he gets it together and scores a shit load of goals next season.
Poor attitude is disruptive, even more so when you are club captain. Another player could look at him and think, if he doesn't give a s***, why should I. If that is not disruptive, I do not know what is.
Genuine question this but what evidence do we have that he is a disruptive influence in the squad? Is it rumour and hearsay or do we have a reliable source that he is negative about the structure and management of AVFC? My opinion is that the disciplinary measures should have been more enforced and the lack of fitness was enough to void his contract though I am not an employment law specialist by any means..
I think the evidence that he was club captain and didn't take his fitness seriously. Damming enough. Add to that partying in Dubai and London during the clubs most disastrous period then this is certainly disruptive. All that said if he stays, plays, puts in effort and works hard, I would not be bothered about seeing him play. Would rather he didn't and we got better assets, but given the circumstance would rather a fit / productive gabby than paying him off £6m to sit on his arse...
And lets not forget the AVTV Xmas Bad Santa thingy where Richards hands Gabby his present. He opens it in front of the squad and the camera and it is an English / French dictionary - he looks, he smirks and then arrogantly tosses it aside. I saw that as a big "F*ck you Garde"
There's no proof he's been disruptive in the changing room. He's been shit on the pitch and been pictured on holiday during the season. Fans have put 2 and 2 together and come up with something ridiculous. I hope he gets it together and scores a shit load of goals next season.
Poor attitude is disruptive, even more so when you are club captain. Another player could look at him and think, if he doesn't give a s***, why should I. If that is not disruptive, I do not know what is.
I actually think Richards is more of that than Gabby - Gabby is just a follower
I have mentioned this before in the middle of last season he was allowed a holiday in the US but with a specific fitness regime to follow in order that he might have lost enough weight to play a part in the first team. He came back more overweight than when he went.
Genuine question this but what evidence do we have that he is a disruptive influence in the squad? Is it rumour and hearsay or do we have a reliable source that he is negative about the structure and management of AVFC? My opinion is that the disciplinary measures should have been more enforced and the lack of fitness was enough to void his contract though I am not an employment law specialist by any means..
I think the evidence that he was club captain and didn't take his fitness seriously. Damming enough. Add to that partying in Dubai and London during the clubs most disastrous period then this is certainly disruptive. All that said if he stays, plays, puts in effort and works hard, I would not be bothered about seeing him play. Would rather he didn't and we got better assets, but given the circumstance would rather a fit / productive gabby than paying him off £6m to sit on his arse...
And lets not forget the AVTV Xmas Bad Santa thingy
gabby has done fuck all in his career to improve his game which has always been just run very fastI take it you're not a Gabby fan then Oswald?
tony daley was comparible to flabby early in his career but he worked on his game and improved.
gabby went out on the piss with his arsenal mates after the cup final so it showed what his priorties were
then there was the spuds away game, shisha, lauging gas, vertigo, bunking off sick for the bournemouth game, more bookings than goals over the past few seasons and being overweight
the wanker is undefendable
There's no proof he's been disruptive in the changing room. He's been shit on the pitch and been pictured on holiday during the season. Fans have put 2 and 2 together and come up with something ridiculous. I hope he gets it together and scores a shit load of goals next season.
Poor attitude is disruptive, even more so when you are club captain. Another player could look at him and think, if he doesn't give a s***, why should I. If that is not disruptive, I do not know what is.
I actually think Richards is more of that than Gabby - Gabby is just a follower
I think it is the other way round. Agbonlahor had the 'dont give a fuck' attitude way before Richards came on board.
Get shot.
gabby has done fuck all in his career to improve his game which has always been just run very fastI take it you're not a Gabby fan then Oswald?
tony daley was comparible to flabby early in his career but he worked on his game and improved.
gabby went out on the piss with his arsenal mates after the cup final so it showed what his priorties were
then there was the spuds away game, shisha, lauging gas, vertigo, bunking off sick for the bournemouth game, more bookings than goals over the past few seasons and being overweight
the wanker is undefendable
This is pretty much my take on it too. We don't have to like him, but if the manager wants to use him then ok.I have mentioned this before in the middle of last season he was allowed a holiday in the US but with a specific fitness regime to follow in order that he might have lost enough weight to play a part in the first team. He came back more overweight than when he went.
It was ludicrous the shape he was before let alone after. I'm trying to accept the fact that he's going to be at the club this season unless someone comes in for him, and the fact that he does look in top shape suggesting somebody has got through his thick fucking skull. So until such time as he leaves, if he maintains this course of application we may as well get behind him and the team. Even if we never forgive or forget what his role was in our relegation last season.
TSM2 might as well start some sort of small theatre tour along the lines of 'An evening with Paul Lambert and my part in Aston Villa's downfall'. complete with interpreter, of course.Given his current employment status, trying to nick a spot at The Edinburgh Fringe might be his bets bet.
gabby has done fuck all in his career to improve his game which has always been just run very fastI take it you're not a Gabby fan then Oswald?
tony daley was comparible to flabby early in his career but he worked on his game and improved.
gabby went out on the piss with his arsenal mates after the cup final so it showed what his priorties were
then there was the spuds away game, shisha, lauging gas, vertigo, bunking off sick for the bournemouth game, more bookings than goals over the past few seasons and being overweight
the wanker is undefendable
what makes you think that? 8)
last season was when our senior players needed to stand up and be counted. most of them couldnt be arsed to get up off the settee and our club captain was the biggest culprit. in fact he knackered the springs
I've seen a picture of Gabby in Austria and he looks slimmer and trimmer than he has done since 2010.
His attitude has stunk for seasons on end. He came out with an apology at the back end of last season, but him actually making a physical change may indicate a lesson has been learnt.
He can repay us in goals. Otherwise, fuck off.
He can repay us in goals. Otherwise, fuck off.
You put me in mind of the intro to 'Kids from Fame' then. "Well fame costs, and right here's where you start paying, in goals!"
He can repay us in goals. Otherwise, fuck off.
You put me in mind of the intro to 'Kids from Fame' then. "Well fame costs, and right here's where you start paying, in goals!"
He can repay us in goals. Otherwise, fuck off.
You put me in mind of the intro to 'Kids from Fame' then. "Well fame costs, and right here's where you start paying, in goals!"
You remember scenes and quotes from Fame? No wonder you voted Out. Clearly a cry from the closet. Everything is making sense now.
He can repay us in goals. Otherwise, fuck off.
You put me in mind of the intro to 'Kids from Fame' then. "Well fame costs, and right here's where you start paying, in goals!"
You remember scenes and quotes from Fame? No wonder you voted Out. Clearly a cry from the closet. Everything is making sense now.
Wonder how many more of them confused 'voting out' with 'coming out'. Grounds for a 2nd referendum, I'd say.
He can repay us in goals. Otherwise, fuck off.
You put me in mind of the intro to 'Kids from Fame' then. "Well fame costs, and right here's where you start paying, in goals!"
You remember scenes and quotes from Fame? No wonder you voted Out. Clearly a cry from the closet. Everything is making sense now.
Wonder how many more of them confused 'voting out' with 'coming out'. Grounds for a 2nd referendum, I'd say.
Talking of which I texted the missus the other day, "Will walk to shop. And mince".
I only meant I'd walk and didn't need a lift and I'd also add mince to the meat buying list. Little did I realise how heavily Risso was influencing my life choices.
Risso, I have no problem with you turning up a the Villa in a catsuit and leg warmers.
I have no recollection of that song, obviously. "Dream breaaaaaaker"
Can we all hold hands at Villa Park and sing "Starmaker" with tears running down our cheeks?
I saw the Kids from Fame in concert when I was a nipper, it was mainly memorable for the girl sitting behind us imploring Leroy to 'get his cock out', I don't think my grandmother felt the same way from the look on her face.
I saw the Kids from Fame in concert when I was a nipper, it was mainly memorable for the girl sitting behind us imploring Leroy to 'get his cock out', I don't think my grandmother felt the same way from the look on her face.
I saw the Kids from Fame in concert when I was a nipper, it was mainly memorable for the girl sitting behind us imploring Leroy to 'get his cock out', I don't think my grandmother felt the same way from the look on her face.
Pissed my sides at that. 😀
indeed funny
Looking trim in a snap with Stan today.
Would nt Any one be averse to agbonlahor having a somewhat sabbatical to get his house in order. He may be stay on board like nzogbia but not play or loaned out to someone but hes not getting much action at the moment.
The first bit was tongue in cheek !
Sabbatical bloody sabbatical
Is this waste of space still at the club???! Ffs, it's starting to look like he's pulled the wool over another new managers eyes.
I just can't see him going anywhere. Not wanting to create a new bomb squad but he should be told he's a free transfer and if he was to stay then he's not allowed anywhere near the first team squad
Sabbatical bloody sabbatical
Sabbatical bloody sabbatical
Sabbatical bloody sabbatical
I now have U2 in my head. Thanks.
Didnt he get a verbal rocket from Tony Morley during the commentary on Saturday?
Much as I dislike his key role in our six year fall from grace, I'm resigned to being stuck with him until his contract runs out. Im presuming he has a release clause, if anyone's stupid enough to pay it.
The Birmingham Sperm Bank is still looking for recruits....
oh on second thoughts
Just posted a message on instagram.
Wishing the team and players all the best for tomorrow and for the rest of the season...
Has he been released then?
Made a comment on his account saying all good things must come to an end and thanks for your support.I dont see any other comments from Gabby on either Twitter or Instagram other than the message wishing the team well for the season.
Is the Istagram account definitely his?
Is the Istagram account definitely his?
Yes. He's got a lot of his personal stuff on there.
And yes this is sad for a person and player who has been here so long. That instead of remembering so many good things we instead are left with a very bitter taste in the mouth. I'm glad he's gone but it should have ended so much better.
Is the Istagram account definitely his?
Yes. He's got a lot of his personal stuff on there.
And yes this is sad for a person and player who has been here so long. That instead of remembering so many good things we instead are left with a very bitter taste in the mouth. I'm glad he's gone but it should have ended so much better.
When he's gone I'll remember the 70+ league goals he got for us (especially the Derby games) and not the version of him during these last few years. The whole club was in decline from 2010 and he was just a symptom.
Is the Istagram account definitely his?
Yes. He's got a lot of his personal stuff on there.
And yes this is sad for a person and player who has been here so long. That instead of remembering so many good things we instead are left with a very bitter taste in the mouth. I'm glad he's gone but it should have ended so much better.
When he's gone I'll remember the 70+ league goals he got for us (especially the Derby games) and not the version of him during these last few years. The whole club was in decline from 2010 and he was just a symptom.
Is the Istagram account definitely his?
Yes. He's got a lot of his personal stuff on there.
And yes this is sad for a person and player who has been here so long. That instead of remembering so many good things we instead are left with a very bitter taste in the mouth. I'm glad he's gone but it should have ended so much better.
When he's gone I'll remember the 70+ league goals he got for us (especially the Derby games) and not the version of him during these last few years. The whole club was in decline from 2010 and he was just a symptom.
If he is leaving, my abiding memory of him will be that he's a fat, thick-as pig shit, piss-taking, lazy twat.
If he is leaving, my abiding memory of him will be that he's a fat, thick-as pig shit, piss-taking, lazy twat.
If he is leaving, my abiding memory of him will be that he's a fat, thick-as pig shit, piss-taking, lazy twat.
As a footballer who's main aim is to be able to play with a ball, he is dog, but the emphasis on him being fat is crock of shit. That image is deceiving, they're his obliques that are sticking out, not a gut. In all fairness he's visually in good shape, maybe a little bit too much muscle mass but he definitely wasn't fat. Unfit on a cardiovascular level over the 90 minutes for sure but I can't accept anyone saying he's fat.If he is leaving, my abiding memory of him will be that he's a fat, thick-as pig shit, piss-taking, lazy twat.
Those feelings will be shared by many. Especially when you look at images like this as our last recollection of his contribution to his boyhood club
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Looks to me like he's got three nipples with the extra one on his right boobie.When you milk the club as much he has you need all the nipples you can get.
Looks to me like he's got three nipples with the extra one on his right boobie.When you milk the club as much he has you need all the nipples you can get.
Looks to me like he's got three nipples with the extra one on his right boobie.When you milk the club as much he has you need all the nipples you can get.
I'd hope he'd stay and put things right on the pitch. He's been shit the last few years but at least we know there's a player in there somewhere. Id rather we'd rid the club of the likes of Westwood, Bacuna and co before Agbonlahor.
You got me there, I thought I had a good'un.Looks to me like he's got three nipples with the extra one on his right boobie.When you milk the club as much he has you need all the nipples you can get.
He doesn't need any nipples to milk the club. ;)
Given his best? He mostly stands and points without actually having any drive to do anything his self.I'd hope he'd stay and put things right on the pitch. He's been shit the last few years but at least we know there's a player in there somewhere. Id rather we'd rid the club of the likes of Westwood, Bacuna and co before Agbonlahor.
I think he's much worse than them. Westwood for a start seems a decent character, who has always given his best. Agbonlahor is much worse in my eyes. He was decent a number of years ago, but when we were at our weakest instead of fighting hard to turn us round he took advantage of the vacuum of leadership to abuse his position at the club.
Given his best? He mostly stands and points without actually having any drive to do anything his self.I'd hope he'd stay and put things right on the pitch. He's been shit the last few years but at least we know there's a player in there somewhere. Id rather we'd rid the club of the likes of Westwood, Bacuna and co before Agbonlahor.
I think he's much worse than them. Westwood for a start seems a decent character, who has always given his best. Agbonlahor is much worse in my eyes. He was decent a number of years ago, but when we were at our weakest instead of fighting hard to turn us round he took advantage of the vacuum of leadership to abuse his position at the club.
Gabby is in the training pictures on the Villa website. And he's smiling. He may not be gone just yet
Gabby is in the training pictures on the Villa website. And he's smiling. He may not be gone just yet
Gabbys career sums up our plight since Houllier left. A lot of early promise, but quickly turned into farce and embarrassment. It's a shame as you want to see a local lad come good, but it's best for both parties if he leaves. I'll remember the good days when he partnered Carew. Good luck to him in the future.
Yeah you are probably right SH, but the Houllier year seems like a golden age in comparison with what has happened since.
Yeah you are probably right SH, but the Houllier year seems like a golden age in comparison with what has happened since.
The days of Timmy seem like a golden age, compared to what happened afterwards
No wish to be controversial here, but Gabby is thick as fuck. Does anyone think that our shite management has led to his misdemeanours? Sure you are always accountable for you own actions, but we seem to be prepared to forgive the 20yr old JG now he has learned his lesson and sounds like he's getting better advice. What would we think if Gabby said the same thing is he owes us? I may be utterly naive but a fit and focused Gabby would frighten this league to death
My money would be on a move to Turkey, that seems to be the final resting place of a lot of our strikers.
My money would be on a move to Turkey, that seems to be the final resting place of a lot of our strikers.
Well if he goes the further way the better. I wouldn't want him lining up against us next season.
Neil Moxley on Twitter says the club have told him Gabby's going nowhere.
No wish to be controversial here, but Gabby is thick as fuck. Does anyone think that our shite management has led to his misdemeanours? Sure you are always accountable for you own actions, but we seem to be prepared to forgive the 20yr old JG now he has learned his lesson and sounds like he's getting better advice. What would we think if Gabby said the same thing is he owes us? I may be utterly naive but a fit and focused Gabby would frighten this league to death
Neil Moxley on Twitter says the club have told him Gabby's going nowhere.
Maybes get some margarine on on the exit door frames?
the only way he's leaving VP is in a boxIt won't be a penalty box, he's never in that the lazy fat feck.
Neil Moxley on Twitter says the club have told him Gabby's going nowhere.
Is the Istagram account definitely his?
Yes. He's got a lot of his personal stuff on there.
And yes this is sad for a person and player who has been here so long. That instead of remembering so many good things we instead are left with a very bitter taste in the mouth. I'm glad he's gone but it should have ended so much better.
When he's gone I'll remember the 70+ league goals he got for us (especially the Derby games) and not the version of him during these last few years. The whole club was in decline from 2010 and he was just a symptom.
Absolutely. I know he's (literally and figuratively) let the side down in recent years but two winners at The Sty, our only winner at Old Trafford since the Jurassic Era, that hat trick against Man City, two vital goals away at Norwich...
Neil Moxley on Twitter says the club have told him Gabby's going nowhere.
See - the Instagram thing is a red herring. He continues to laugh at us.
So is he leaving or is he just not in the squad for todays game?If he's simply been left out, then I think that says a lot about his standing at the club. He's either unfit (still) or RDM just doesn't like the look of him, either way it's pretty damning. He doesn't seem the type to want to prove people wrong, so if that's the case, then i don't see him playing much of a part in the near future.
I don't suppose he cares as long as the cash keeps hitting the account
with a friend to input the numbers?
Off to Coventry City......terminated his contract with us
Where's this report?
Good riddance. It's about time as League One has been his level for at least a couple of years now.
Talk of a move to RangersStafford Rangers?
He could get a job on Power RangersTalk of a move to RangersStafford Rangers?
Talk of a move to Rangers
I wouldn't rule us out cancelling his contract but I would say it's unlikely. If he gets fit and stays injury free, he could still be useful in the right environment.
Not much more needs to be said but it is testament to his obscene laziness, lack of professionalism and all round fuckwittery that a player who scored our most Premier League goals and a number of important goals against local rivals and big teams will go to the justifiable pleasure of the fans.
Made the most of limited ability when he could be bothered, but losing him will be the best deal we make this summer.
By saying "sometimes good things come to an end" he's obviously referring to the gravy train he's been riding for the past five years. Maybe we should give him a testimonial - only he has to pay us and we won't bother to turn up. Don't let the door smack you on the arse on your way out.
Our record scorer in the Premier League and hero of many derby wins, yet he will never be remembered in the same affection as the likes of Gary Shaw and Brian Little.
Our record scorer in the Premier League and hero of many derby wins, yet he will never be remembered in the same affection as the likes ofGary Shaw and Brian Little.Dean Saunders and Savo Milosovic
The 29-year-old held talks with boss Roberto Di Matteo before the start of the Championship season and it was made clear that he’s not part of the future plans.
As the first-team squad prepared for the opening day defeat at Sheffield Wednesday, Agbonlahor posted on his Instagram page:
“Good luck to all the players tomorrow and for the rest of the season!!”
He later went on to add another comment which read: “Thank u for all your support but sometimes good things come to an end.”
*rushes off to Instagram to post "What support? Don't let the door hit your spare tyre on the way out!"*
Not much more needs to be said but it is testament to his obscene laziness, lack of professionalism and all round fuckwittery that a player who scored our most Premier League goals and a number of important goals against local rivals and big teams will go to the justifiable pleasure of the fans.perfect summary. Lazy wastrel is how I'll largely remember him. Which is a shame, because if he'd put the graft in over the last few years and led from the front when he had the captaincy, others may have done the same and we might not have gone through 3 managers in a year and stayed in the premiership. All ifs and buts I realise, but because he didn't do it, we'll never know and we're still where we are.
Made the most of limited ability when he could be bothered, but losing him will be the best deal we make this summer.
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*Deleted all the Villa legend bullshit off it.
Does anyone seriously believe he's going, I don't.
There was a time when he had team mates such as Barry, Milner, Young, Downing, Delph, Benteke who all took opportunites to leave, and i hate to say it, but they all went on to better things (than relegation).Don't think he ever had their opportunities to leave. At the top of his game he was only ever average so not sure who would have wanted him. There were rumours of interest from Arsenal at one time but I find it hard to believe that Wenger would have wanted him.
He stayed and probably regrets it.
There was a time when he had team mates such as Barry, Milner, Young, Downing, Delph, Benteke who all took opportunites to leave, and i hate to say it, but they all went on to better things (than relegation).
He stayed and probably regrets it.
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*Deleted all the Villa legend bullshit off it.
Does anyone seriously believe he's going, I don't.
Haha, good old Leighton. Doesn't sit on the fence, does he?!
There was a time when Young was not committing to a contract extension and Gabby signed a new 4 or 5 year one. Young left, Gabby stayed. If clubs thought he was interested in a move away from VP away offers would have come in.There was a time when he had team mates such as Barry, Milner, Young, Downing, Delph, Benteke who all took opportunites to leave, and i hate to say it, but they all went on to better things (than relegation).
He stayed and probably regrets it.
Stayed? I don't recall us fighting off bids from title-challenging sides for him, unlike the others there. (Liverpool being included as they still believe they win it every other season).
There was a time when Young was not committing to a contract extension and Gabby signed a new 4 or 5 year one. Young left, Gabby stayed. If clubs thought he was interested in a move away from VP away offers would have come in.There was a time when he had team mates such as Barry, Milner, Young, Downing, Delph, Benteke who all took opportunites to leave, and i hate to say it, but they all went on to better things (than relegation).
He stayed and probably regrets it.
Stayed? I don't recall us fighting off bids from title-challenging sides for him, unlike the others there. (Liverpool being included as they still believe they win it every other season).
I don't believe that is true. He really never was very good but when he tried his speed could make him dangerous, as long as he didn't have time to need to make a decision on the pitch.He had time to make a decision on the pitch against Liverpool at Villa Park.
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*Deleted all the Villa legend bullshit off it.
Does anyone seriously believe he's going, I don't.
Haha, good old Leighton. Doesn't sit on the fence, does he?!
Everyone else commenting seems to be licking Flabby's fat arse and begging him to stay. Good grief.
Not good enough, never have been, never will be!
and therein lies the problem.Not good enough, never have been, never will be!
I don't know about "never have been" - he's our all time Premier League leading goalscorer.
Not good enough, never have been, never will be!
I don't know about "never have been" - he's our all time Premier League leading goalscorer.
But no-one tops Ivo StasNot good enough, never have been, never will be!
I don't know about "never have been" - he's our all time Premier League leading goalscorer.
only because of the amount of games he has *coughs* played in
tony cascarino has a better goals to game ratio than gabby
as has julian joachim
Not good enough, never have been, never will be!
I don't know about "never have been" - he's our all time Premier League leading goalscorer.
even going on a free who would take him?
60k a week for 2 years still to go, does anyone honestly think that someone will come in and offer anything that remotely equates to that?
the c*** is going nowhere
A number of footballers who have played in the top flight football as we know are pampered wankers, if they didn't have agents they'd probably just sit on their lazy arses and not work til the money runs out. Sans agent half of these waster types wouldn't know how to tee up a new deal on their own if they'd been released by a club. Following a football career the parasitic types wouldn't know how to start a business, get a job, nor educate themselves either.
I guarantee he's broke by 40.
...I guarantee he's broke by 40.Stone or years?
He's as thick as a bull's walt
i would have thought he has a big house and he seems to have put it in his dinning area.
#notgoinganywhere
Has Gabby only just realized that that's the reality of an exercise bike?
still cant believe all those pathetic supporters
we need fighters etc etc etc
really
fighters wtf
i hope yo aint going
wtf
legend
wtf
Just do what you do best..
what taking £50 k a week and taking the piss
If only the bike had a chain and wheels and he could ride off to Coventry
I'd love to meet whoever thought he was worthy of that lucrative new contract.
Preferably down a dark alley, with a pick axe.
I'd love to meet whoever thought he was worthy of that lucrative new contract.
Preferably down a dark alley, with a pick axe.
There was a foul stench to the timing of both Lambert's and Agbonlahor's contract deals. IIRC, negotiations were put on hold due to the shit season that we had just finished, only then to being signed and sealed having just won a couple of games into the new season.
You scratch my back...
I'd love to meet whoever thought he was worthy of that lucrative new contract.
Preferably down a dark alley, with a pick axe.
There was a foul stench to the timing of both Lambert's and Agbonlahor's contract deals. IIRC, negotiations were put on hold due to the shit season that we had just finished, only then to being signed and sealed having just won a couple of games into the new season.
You scratch my back...
I thought the Teflon man indicated he wasn't happy about Gabby's contract.
Though obviously that was long after the event, and not at the time when he was the actual manager.
I'd love to meet whoever thought he was worthy of that lucrative new contract.
Preferably down a dark alley, with a pick axe.
There was a foul stench to the timing of both Lambert's and Agbonlahor's contract deals. IIRC, negotiations were put on hold due to the shit season that we had just finished, only then to being signed and sealed having just won a couple of games into the new season.
You scratch my back...
Was at the Alex stadium yesterday.
Have we banned him from Bodymoor Heath now?
Although there was a picture of him driving Gollini the other day so perhaps not.
All strange with him atm.
I'd love to meet whoever thought he was worthy of that lucrative new contract.
Preferably down a dark alley, with a pick axe.
There was a foul stench to the timing of both Lambert's and Agbonlahor's contract deals. IIRC, negotiations were put on hold due to the shit season that we had just finished, only then to being signed and sealed having just won a couple of games into the new season.
You scratch my back...
I thought the Teflon man indicated he wasn't happy about Gabby's contract.
Though obviously that was long after the event, and not at the time when he was the actual manager.
Was at the Alex stadium yesterday.
Have we banned him from Bodymoor Heath now?
Although there was a picture of him driving Gollini the other day so perhaps not.
All strange with him atm.
https://twitter.com/officialga11/status/764357523155681280
Twitter this time . Calling someone a 'liar' (grabs popcorn)
if he refuses to go on loan is that not striking , when are we in the area of cancelling contracts ?
if he refuses to go on loan is that not striking , when are we in the area of cancelling contracts ?
I'd be surprised if we can contractually insist on him playing for another club without his agreement.
Surely Gabby was in breach of his contract when he turned up too fat to play professional football? I don't get it. What does a player need to do before he can be sacked?
Gross misconduct,being fat does not count.Surely Gabby was in breach of his contract when he turned up too fat to play professional football? I don't get it. What does a player need to do before he can be sacked?
I'm guessing that it would have to be something very serious like failing a drug test.
Surely Gabby was in breach of his contract when he turned up too fat to play professional football? I don't get it. What does a player need to do before he can be sacked?
I'm guessing that it would have to be something very serious like failing a drug test.
Gabby isn't on Twitter - that was a fake. There is a tick on all official accounts
if he refuses to go on loan is that not striking , when are we in the area of cancelling contracts ?He's not been striking for years, mate. Why would he start now?
Any news? It's gone quiet on him. Can we loan him out or sell him to a non league team, like Rangers?
Any news? It's gone quiet on him. Can we loan him out or sell him to a non league team, like Rangers?
Surely we can't unload all our deadwood to Rangers. But I suppose it is worth a try. Although sadly I think their manger is a 'moneyball' fan and goes on statistics. Which suggests he won't be banging our door down to get Gabby.
That things are so quiet shows just how far his stock has dropped. In a way it might be poetic justice if he can't get a move and just has sit on the bench and watch all season. :P
Lerner!That things are so quiet shows just how far his stock has dropped. In a way it might be poetic justice if he can't get a move and just has sit on the bench and watch all season. :P
Don't and won't think its poetic justice, if this parasite does a N'Zog.
For the life of me, I still cannot understand how he and others weren't sacked last season for gross misconduct.
Feckin Learner & co!!
The unfortunate reality is that at his worst he is still a much better option than Kozak.I think Richards has a realistic sell on value so we need to keep him with some kind of profile. No club in the top 2 divisions (or even the next 2) would want a player whose only asset (speed) has been compromised by his sloth/weight and whose attitude stinks.
Surprised that the likes of Richards were given a chance/shop window v Luton but Flabby was left on his exercise bike.
Are we guilty of cutting off our nose to spite our face with him?
The unfortunate reality is that at his worst he is still a much better option than Kozak.I think Richards has a realistic sell on value so we need to keep him with some kind of profile. No club in the top 2 divisions (or even the next 2) would want a player whose only asset (speed) has been compromised by his sloth/weight and whose attitude stinks.
Surprised that the likes of Richards were given a chance/shop window v Luton but Flabby was left on his exercise bike.
Are we guilty of cutting off our nose to spite our face with him?
But isn't he always crying off with some injury, muscle twinge, headache etc at the slightest danger of having to do anything constructive for us.
Maybe Gabby is suffering from depression.
Maybe Gabby is suffering from depression.
Not sure if this was a joke or not but whenever I've suffered from depression (thankfully not that often) one of the biggest, and most harmful symptoms has been a tendency to turn serious, but not insurmountable problems into crises by going into full-on bridge-burning mode. I'd assume that the problem I faced was so catastrophic that there was no way I could ever repair it and that everyone in the world thought I was an irredeemable menace so there was no point engaging constructively to move things forward. Luckily it's always been the trigger for somebody to realise that I was in trouble and talk me into being sensible.
That does sound, from the outside, a bit like Gabby's situation.
Sorry, I was a bit of an overshary canary there, but it's worth considering at least.
It wasn't a joke; I was wondering aloud what turned him into a work-dodging, lazy, overweight waster.
Love that description. Sums it up perfectlyMaybe Gabby is suffering from depression.
Not sure if this was a joke or not but whenever I've suffered from depression (thankfully not that often) one of the biggest, and most harmful symptoms has been a tendency to turn serious, but not insurmountable problems into crises by going into full-on bridge-burning mode. I'd assume that the problem I faced was so catastrophic that there was no way I could ever repair it and that everyone in the world thought I was an irredeemable menace so there was no point engaging constructively to move things forward. Luckily it's always been the trigger for somebody to realise that I was in trouble and talk me into being sensible.
That does sound, from the outside, a bit like Gabby's situation.
Sorry, I was a bit of an overshary canary there, but it's worth considering at least.
Maybe Gabby is suffering from depression.
Not sure if this was a joke or not but whenever I've suffered from depression (thankfully not that often) one of the biggest, and most harmful symptoms has been a tendency to turn serious, but not insurmountable problems into crises by going into full-on bridge-burning mode. I'd assume that the problem I faced was so catastrophic that there was no way I could ever repair it and that everyone in the world thought I was an irredeemable menace so there was no point engaging constructively to move things forward. Luckily it's always been the trigger for somebody to realise that I was in trouble and talk me into being sensible.
That does sound, from the outside, a bit like Gabby's situation.
Sorry, I was a bit of an overshary canary there, but it's worth considering at least.
Yeah BE was joking. It was something that was mentioned a while back where I think the general consensus was that he is just a bit of a bellend.
I'm also a fellow sufferer *low five!*.
bellend hornet's nest
If he is suffering from depression my non medical diagnosis is that it a form that is self inflicted. He gambles heavily (ergo he loses heavily), he drinks heavily, he overeats and he is sexually promiscuous. The house he lives in looks a monument to tasteless vulgarity. It would be surprising if he were not depressed. He deserves to be until he adopts a less self indulgent lifestyle.
If he is suffering from depression my non medical diagnosis is that it a form that is self inflicted. He gambles heavily (ergo he loses heavily), he drinks heavily, he overeats and he is sexually promiscuous. The house he lives in looks a monument to tasteless vulgarity. It would be surprising if he were not depressed. He deserves to be until he adopts a less self indulgent lifestyle.
Sid life is about making mistakes sometimes, but we try to learn from them. Unfortunately Gabby is paying the price now, but also our club is tooIn football terms it's too late for him to make up for those mistakes. Fortunately for him, life doesn't (McGrath willing) end at 35 like it does for most footballing careers. He's got the rest of his life to better himself and most importantly to grow up.
It wasn't a joke; I was wondering aloud what turned him into a work-dodging, lazy, overweight waster.
I suspect that Gabby is probably thinking that he has totally messed up his career at the Villa and potentially in football
In a way it is a shame for him, but he made the choices for which he is now paying the price
We all make choices in life some good and some that we have to live with a certain amount of regret for what we did, I know that I have made massive mistakes in my life, which I still cannot understand why I did them at the time!
Someone said previously you would not be surprised to hear in the future that he becomes bankrupt. The guy had power, pride, passion and a fair amount of ability but it has all been wasted because he either has been badly advised along the way or has revelled in the billy big bollocks attitude that has in turn attracted the wrong type of "friends"
I know someone who knows him and there were rumours previously he changed his Lamborghini like we changed trainers for the latest models
So far we have:It wasn't a joke; I was wondering aloud what turned him into a work-dodging, lazy, overweight waster.
£50K a week and a tiny intellect.
Someone said previously you would not be surprised to hear in the future that he becomes bankrupt. The guy had power, pride, passion and a fair amount of ability but it has all been wasted because he either has been badly advised along the way or has revelled in the billy big bollocks attitude that has in turn attracted the wrong type of "friends"
I know someone who knows him and there were rumours previously he changed his Lamborghini like we changed trainers for the latest models
Someone said previously you would not be surprised to hear in the future that he becomes bankrupt. The guy had power, pride, passion and a fair amount of ability but it has all been wasted because he either has been badly advised along the way or has revelled in the billy big bollocks attitude that has in turn attracted the wrong type of "friends"
I know someone who knows him and there were rumours previously he changed his Lamborghini like we changed trainers for the latest models
i think he possibly may like to bet as well
I wonder if he'll be given a free transfer and released from his contract. I can see Richards leaving the club by the deadline.
I wonder if he'll be given a free transfer and released from his contract. I can see Richards leaving the club by the deadline.
I'd rather be thin on the ground than have him anywhere near the team!I wonder if he'll be given a free transfer and released from his contract. I can see Richards leaving the club by the deadline.
If Richards goes then we will be awfully thin on the ground for central defenders.
I'd rather be thin on the ground than have him anywhere near the team!I wonder if he'll be given a free transfer and released from his contract. I can see Richards leaving the club by the deadline.
If Richards goes then we will be awfully thin on the ground for central defenders.
I'd rather be thin on the ground than have him anywhere near the team!I wonder if he'll be given a free transfer and released from his contract. I can see Richards leaving the club by the deadline.
If Richards goes then we will be awfully thin on the ground for central defenders.
Thin on the ground has to be an oxymoron if Gabby is staying
I wonder if he'll be given a free transfer and released from his contract. I can see Richards leaving the club by the deadline.
i can see him been given a free but his wages are the stumbling block unless we give him a pay off
50k odd per week, if someone was stupid enough to offer 25k a week for 3 years it wont be enough
I'd rather be thin on the ground than have him anywhere near the team!I wonder if he'll be given a free transfer and released from his contract. I can see Richards leaving the club by the deadline.
If Richards goes then we will be awfully thin on the ground for central defenders.
I would rather play Alan Hutton as an emergency CB than have Richards near the team. Luton showed us what we already knew about him. Footballing spaniel chasing a balloon.
De Laet can at centre back. Hutton and Bacuna will slot in, albeit poorly, at right back if needed.Toner recalled perhaps too?
According to Pat Murphy our Gabby has turned down a move to Reading.He probably did so on the basis of not liking Books.
According to Pat Murphy our Gabby has turned down a move to Reading.
I remain optimistic he can turn it around here. The door is never closed.
Can't we send him to Coventry for a few months to get fit?
According to Pat Murphy our Gabby has turned down a move to Reading.
Can't say i'm surprised. Absolute pathetic example of a modern footballer.
I remain optimistic he can turn it around here. The door is never closed.
Can't we send him to Coventry for a few months to get fit?
I think we have already sent him to Coventry!
According to the Sun his villa carrier is over it says on bbc sport gossip.A people carrier? He probably has several on his front drive.
According to the Sun his villa carrier is over it says on bbc sport gossip.
Must be the articulated lorry that used to carry his lunch to Bodymoor Heath.
His attitude and physical condition has stunk over the past 12 months - no doubt.
If we could get him fit and onside he's at least the equal of of one of our forwards who some are saying we were right not to have sold for £11m and in today's market we could get £20m for.
Surely a better management approach would be get this situation sorted in more positive way.
His attitude and physical condition has stunk over the past 12 months - no doubt.
If we could get him fit and onside he's at least the equal of of one of our forwards who some are saying we were right not to have sold for £11m and in today's market we could get £20m for.
Surely a better management approach would be get this situation sorted in more positive way.
How many more managers have to consider him not worth persevering with? He's done as a professional footballer.
The Club needs to make a stand that it demands 100% from everybody. Allow GA to come back from what he has done defeats building a no-nonsense club. Attitude is everything, make an example of him and get rid.The only way to "Get rid" would be to pay up his contract, what sort of message is that going to give out?
His attitude and physical condition has stunk over the past 12 months - no doubt.
If we could get him fit and onside he's at least the equal of of one of our forwards who some are saying we were right not to have sold for £11m and in today's market we could get £20m for.
Surely a better management approach would be get this situation sorted in more positive way.
How many more managers have to consider him not worth persevering with? He's done as a professional footballer.
Tony's comments are as damning as they could be - even alludes to not being a "man"
Fair play to him
I like to think what would the best managers do in the same scenario.
Can you imagine Saunders, Alex Ferguson, Mourinho, giving him a second chance!
Look at how Guardiola has dealt with Hart, that sends out the message to the whole squad, he is the boss and that's it.
I get the same impression from Xia, he is not afraid of the tough decisions, and RDM and Steve Clarke have their reputations to keep.
Gabby is finished as a Villa player. It's just a question of how can we get him off the wage bill.
Tony's comments are as damning as they could be - even alludes to not being a "man"
Fair play to him
A bit unreasonable considering it is essentially an employer/employee relationship.
Tony's comments are as damning as they could be - even alludes to not being a "man"
Fair play to him
A bit unreasonable considering it is essentially an employer/employee relationship.
To which he's repeatedly turned up for work in no fit condition to fully participate. He should have been sacked if it were a normal work place.
Tony's comments are as damning as they could be - even alludes to not being a "man"
Fair play to him
A bit unreasonable considering it is essentially an employer/employee relationship.
Tony's comments are as damning as they could be - even alludes to not being a "man"
Fair play to him
A bit unreasonable considering it is essentially an employer/employee relationship.
Aj2ak47 beat me to it
Don't mix pampered footballers and normal working relationships / practices - it is not the same.
A Manager in the real world in an office could not bawl out the entire team like \ football manager could and does.
Have we not all said a lot worse about him in here - the guy was a hero but is now a parasite - I could not give a shit about his feelings
Agbonlahor has the upper hand in this situation. He has about two years left on his well paid contract. If he turns up on time for training each day and trains properly there is absolutely nothing the owner/management can do except pay up his contract which does not seem feasible due to the vast ammount involved.
If Xia thinks he can get him out using other tactics he will find the PFA will be on his case pretty damn quick.
Tony's comments are as damning as they could be - even alludes to not being a "man"
Fair play to him
A bit unreasonable considering it is essentially an employer/employee relationship.
Aj2ak47 beat me to it
Don't mix pampered footballers and normal working relationships / practices - it is not the same.
A Manager in the real world in an office could not bawl out the entire team like \ football manager could and does.
Have we not all said a lot worse about him in here - the guy was a hero but is now a parasite - I could not give a shit about his feelings
An employment tribunal would probably disagree with you there.
Tony's comments are as damning as they could be - even alludes to not being a "man"
Fair play to him
A bit unreasonable considering it is essentially an employer/employee relationship.
Aj2ak47 beat me to it
Don't mix pampered footballers and normal working relationships / practices - it is not the same.
A Manager in the real world in an office could not bawl out the entire team like \ football manager could and does.
Have we not all said a lot worse about him in here - the guy was a hero but is now a parasite - I could not give a shit about his feelings
An employment tribunal would probably disagree with you there.
That they would disagree does not mean they would be right - FFS pube head got a payment via them for being a petulant child
He's obviously going to say no to any suggestion apart from a pay off. Bomb squading him to lower ranks is out as he is a bad influence so i'd keep him on the books but tell him to make his own arrangements for training.
I think the club do have to be careful here, it is not that cut and dried that you can just pay him to stay at home and make public comments.
If he could argue that the clubs actions are impacting on his future ability to earn money because of reputational and other damage then this could cost more than his remaining contract.
Sadly all of the power is with the player regarding these matters.
if you can show me a situation where a club has managed to extricate itself from a player contract except where gross misconduct has taken place.I think the club do have to be careful here, it is not that cut and dried that you can just pay him to stay at home and make public comments.
If he could argue that the clubs actions are impacting on his future ability to earn money because of reputational and other damage then this could cost more than his remaining contract.
Sadly all of the power is with the player regarding these matters.
On the flip side, bringing the club and the profession into disrepute.
if you can show me a situation where a club has managed to extricate itself from a player contract except where gross misconduct has taken place.I think the club do have to be careful here, it is not that cut and dried that you can just pay him to stay at home and make public comments.
If he could argue that the clubs actions are impacting on his future ability to earn money because of reputational and other damage then this could cost more than his remaining contract.
Sadly all of the power is with the player regarding these matters.
On the flip side, bringing the club and the profession into disrepute.
These are matters of law not morality, sadly.
if you can show me a situation where a club has managed to extricate itself from a player contract except where gross misconduct has taken place.I think the club do have to be careful here, it is not that cut and dried that you can just pay him to stay at home and make public comments.
If he could argue that the clubs actions are impacting on his future ability to earn money because of reputational and other damage then this could cost more than his remaining contract.
Sadly all of the power is with the player regarding these matters.
On the flip side, bringing the club and the profession into disrepute.
These are matters of law not morality, sadly.
As much of a cock Richards is I don't think he'll be a huge distraction and can actually cover/contribute something until he's gone. Gabby is a distraction and the club has clearly decided he's not all wanted near the premises.
As much of a cock Richards is I don't think he'll be a huge distraction and can actually cover/contribute something until he's gone. Gabby is a distraction and the club has clearly decided he's not all wanted near the premises.
If I had to choose between the two, it would be Gabby every day. Richards is and loves to play the clown. He sees himself as some hilarious joker, everything for him is a joke. Having him around the squad would be a disaster. Gabby is fucked, he knows he is and will be desperate for one last chance. If he's given it I'm pretty damn sure he'd give his all, the problem is we needed his all last season and he decided we weren't worth it.
The decision shouldn't be Xia's to call, it should be with RDM and Clarke. My guess is they look at it and think even if he comes in and works hard, doesn't disrupt, acts as a model professional from now on, we actually don't need him. We've more than enough in that department. Bringing him back in, even with all the promises in the world would be an unnecessary risk. They'll have enough pressure on them this season without having to worry about Gabby.
Reminds me of Winston Bogarde. He earned £10m over 4 years and played only 11 games, after being bombed out at Chelsea when Ranieri took over. He refused to take a pay cut or go out on loan, and trained with the reserves.in the end Bogarde used to walk his dog around the training ground at Imperial College.
Reading some of his later interviews he (sort of) regrets it now.
Maybe Gabby should get some advice from him.
That Tom Harding bloke who was so upset at Villa selling Traore he was considering returning his season ticket (not sure why, fairly certain he won't get a refund) is a fan of Agbonlahor.
"I'm glad Gabbys staying, think we need him this year, teams lacks serious pace and he has it"
And also retweeted his other fan.
"Don't like the way gabby been treated. He scored a shed load of goals a true villain and a top player on his day."
That Tom Harding bloke who was so upset at Villa selling Traore he was considering returning his season ticket (not sure why, fairly certain he won't get a refund) is a fan of Agbonlahor.
"I'm glad Gabbys staying, think we need him this year, teams lacks serious pace and he has it"
And also retweeted his other fan.
"Don't like the way gabby been treated. He scored a shed load of goals a true villain and a top player on his day."
we do have some idiots who follow us. Especially that Tom Harding bloke. And Gabby proved what a true Villain he was last year didn't he?
So the latest Gabby fuck up is that he dared to turn down a loan to Reading. Christ talk about an OTT reaction. Perhaps he wants to stay and actually get back into the first team? Who knows, we may need him at some stage this season. I'd rather he stay and fight for his place.
If he had one care about Villa he would not have been drinking and having a bit in a London hotel with 2 random girls on the day we got relegated. Our gone shisha smoking in Dubai, or let himself become too unfit to play 15 minutes. The man is a waste, and should be got rid of asap. Wants to get back in our team my arse. He wants to ensure Gabby is good.
So the latest Gabby fuck up is that he dared to turn down a loan to Reading. Christ talk about an OTT reaction.Perhaps he wants to stay and actually get back into the first team? Who knows, we may need him at some stage this season. I'd rather he stay and fight for his place.
So the latest Gabby fuck up is that he dared to turn down a loan to Reading. Christ talk about an OTT reaction. Perhaps he wants to stay and actually get back into the first team? Who knows, we may need him at some stage this season. I'd rather he stay and fight for his place.
So the latest Gabby fuck up is that he dared to turn down a loan to Reading. Christ talk about an OTT reaction. Perhaps he wants to stay and actually get back into the first team? Who knows, we may need him at some stage this season. I'd rather he stay and fight for his place.
He has no desire whatsoever of fighting for his place or his career. That much is crystal clear. He is the embodiment of someone who has literally given up on trying to improve himself or his situation. This was an opportunity for him to go there, prove his worth and come back with a new sense of purpose. He chose the easy option. As much as I don't think Xia should have made those comments about Gabby I can also appreciate the frustration he must feel at trying to move him from the club and at least give him a chance to make something of the last few years of his career. In the end, like most Villa fans he's clearly just fucked off by the lazy bastard that Gabby has become.
So the latest Gabby fuck up is that he dared to turn down a loan to Reading. Christ talk about an OTT reaction. Perhaps he wants to stay and actually get back into the first team? Who knows, we may need him at some stage this season. I'd rather he stay and fight for his place.
He has no desire whatsoever of fighting for his place or his career. That much is crystal clear. He is the embodiment of someone who has literally given up on trying to improve himself or his situation. This was an opportunity for him to go there, prove his worth and come back with a new sense of purpose. He chose the easy option. As much as I don't think Xia should have made those comments about Gabby I can also appreciate the frustration he must feel at trying to move him from the club and at least give him a chance to make something of the last few years of his career. In the end, like most Villa fans he's clearly just fucked off by the lazy bastard that Gabby has become.
Again, perhaps he thinks he's better off staying at Villa than going off to Reading. That's hardly a crime now is it? He's definitely let himself down the last 2 or so years, but some of the stuff written about him on here and elsewhere is ridiculous.
I do wonder sometimes whether the Doctor with his incendiary but funny twitter comments is trying to incite him into doing/saying something that would be in breach of his contract to allow us to terminate it, but, that is too far fetched I think.
Oh Gabby where did it all go wrong?
Everyone deserves a second chance that
Oh Gabby where did it all go wrong?
For someone who isn't afraid at telling people how westwood is stealing a living from the villa, this is remarkable. He's scored 34 goals in the past 6 seasons.So the latest Gabby fuck up is that he dared to turn down a loan to Reading. Christ talk about an OTT reaction. Perhaps he wants to stay and actually get back into the first team? Who knows, we may need him at some stage this season. I'd rather he stay and fight for his place.
He has no desire whatsoever of fighting for his place or his career. That much is crystal clear. He is the embodiment of someone who has literally given up on trying to improve himself or his situation. This was an opportunity for him to go there, prove his worth and come back with a new sense of purpose. He chose the easy option. As much as I don't think Xia should have made those comments about Gabby I can also appreciate the frustration he must feel at trying to move him from the club and at least give him a chance to make something of the last few years of his career. In the end, like most Villa fans he's clearly just fucked off by the lazy bastard that Gabby has become.
Again, perhaps he thinks he's better off staying at Villa than going off to Reading. That's hardly a crime now is it? He's definitely let himself down the last 2 or so years, but some of the stuff written about him on here and elsewhere is ridiculous.
I don't want him paid off because;
1. I don't want us giving in to a bloke who hasn't been arsed for the last three seasons - notwithstanding we will eventually have to pay him out over time anyway.
2. I don't want him rocking up at somewhere like Wolves and potentially and I appreciate it is a small chance do us some damage if somehow he got himself together.
3. I don't want him to appear for us again but there is just an outside chance we could be still short in the striker department in January so better to still have him in the background.
4. For once I do actually want someone like him who has completely taken the piss to rot away at the club and to at least show us not to be mugs once and for all.
I appreciate I am contradicting myself at times with the above, however, the thought of paying this guy a lump sum for doing feck all for as long as he has annoys me a great deal.
Oh Gabby where did it all go wrong?when his brain didn't develop enough.
Whilst there is no future for gabby here, I refuse to and can not despise gabby. I wish him good luck and the good memories far outweigh the bad ones for me.I kind of agree here, but the problem is that the bad times are the most recent which makes it hard to get past, and also the fact that during a couple of seasons where we really needed him to be at his best, he didn't seem to give a fuck. Unfortunately when you let yourself and the team down in the way that he has, that is what will be remembered by many.
Whilst there is no future for gabby here, I refuse to and can not despise gabby. I wish him good luck and the good memories far outweigh the bad ones for me.I kind of agree here, but the problem is that the bad times are the most recent which makes it hard to get past, and also the fact that during a couple of seasons where we really needed him to be at his best, he didn't seem to give a fuck. Unfortunately when you let yourself and the team down in the way that he has, that is what will be remembered by many.
Imo a fit and motivated Gabby is as good as any of the other forwards we have but last season was a nightmare and he went AWOL when we needed him most.Without wanting to pick on you specifically, I'm sick and tired of this "fit and motivated" line. He hasn't been anywhere near good enough for the vast majority of this decade, it's not even close to just being a recent issue.
I know that he's probably done at VP but I'm not going to rejoice or stick the boot in to one of our own no matter what has happened.
His goals against the scum means that I could never dislike Gabby no matter what anyone says.
Imo a fit and motivated Gabby is as good as any of the other forwards we have but last season was a nightmare and he went AWOL when we needed him most.
I know that he's probably done at VP but I'm not going to rejoice or stick the boot in to one of our own no matter what has happened.
His goals against the scum means that I could never dislike Gabby no matter what anyone says.
Am I right in thinking that 2 Years left on his contract is about £4million?
Am I right in thinking that 2 Years left on his contract is about £4million?
Imo a fit and motivated Gabby is as good as any of the other forwards we have but last season was a nightmare and he went AWOL when we needed him most.Without wanting to pick on you specifically, I'm sick and tired of this "fit and motivated" line. He hasn't been anywhere near good enough for the vast majority of this decade, it's not even close to just being a recent issue.
I know that he's probably done at VP but I'm not going to rejoice or stick the boot in to one of our own no matter what has happened.
His goals against the scum means that I could never dislike Gabby no matter what anyone says.
Imo a fit and motivated Gabby is as good as any of the other forwards we have but last season was a nightmare and he went AWOL when we needed him most.Without wanting to pick on you specifically, I'm sick and tired of this "fit and motivated" line. He hasn't been anywhere near good enough for the vast majority of this decade, it's not even close to just being a recent issue.
I know that he's probably done at VP but I'm not going to rejoice or stick the boot in to one of our own no matter what has happened.
His goals against the scum means that I could never dislike Gabby no matter what anyone says.
Imo a fit and motivated Gabby is as good as any of the other forwards we have but last season was a nightmare and he went AWOL when we needed him most.
I know that he's probably done at VP but I'm not going to rejoice or stick the boot in to one of our own no matter what has happened.
His goals against the scum means that I could never dislike Gabby no matter what anyone says.
Imo a fit and motivated Gabby is as good as any of the other forwards we have but last season was a nightmare and he went AWOL when we needed him most.
I know that he's probably done at VP but I'm not going to rejoice or stick the boot in to one of our own no matter what has happened.
His goals against the scum means that I could never dislike Gabby no matter what anyone says.
one of our own dont make me laugh
you do realise gabby is an arsenal fan dont you? hence him going out on the piss with them hours after the fa cup final surrender
Obviously haters gonna hate but in this case I'm not going to use Gabby to vent against....be interesting to see who some of you start on this season if we don't get promoted.
It's hard for Villa fans to completely turn against Gabby. His supposed love of Villa and so on... Because we believed that he was one of our own, our current anger at his piss take is all the more pronounced. This man with all his talents could have been up there with the God McGrath and Peter Withe as a Villa legend. So very sad for him and us that this never happened. The history of AVFC will record Gabby as a 'lost' talent who ultimately let his home team down. Perhaps one day he will tell why he did this.Obviously haters gonna hate but in this case I'm not going to use Gabby to vent against....be interesting to see who some of you start on this season if we don't get promoted.
That's a cheap shot. If any behave like he did last season then they deserve abuse in spades.
Obviously haters gonna hate but in this case I'm not going to use Gabby to vent against....be interesting to see who some of you start on this season if we don't get promoted.
Obviously haters gonna hate but in this case I'm not going to use Gabby to vent against....be interesting to see who some of you start on this season if we don't get promoted.
Obviously haters gonna hate but in this case I'm not going to use Gabby to vent against....be interesting to see who some of you start on this season if we don't get promoted.
I'll vent against any player who takes the piss out of the club I love and the loyal fans that pay his extortionate salary if that's ok with you?
Obviously haters gonna hate but in this case I'm not going to use Gabby to vent against....be interesting to see who some of you start on this season if we don't get promoted.
I'll vent against any player who takes the piss out of the club I love and the loyal fans that pay his extortionate salary if that's ok with you?
And what are you going to do if it's not ok Mr Keyboard warrior?
Yeah Villa fans aren't fickle hahaha
Like I said earlier, who's next?
"Keyboard warrior" is awful internet chat.
Obviously haters gonna hate but in this case I'm not going to use Gabby to vent against....be interesting to see who some of you start on this season if we don't get promoted.
I'll vent against any player who takes the piss out of the club I love and the loyal fans that pay his extortionate salary if that's ok with you?
And what are you going to do if it's not ok Mr Keyboard warrior?
Yeah Villa fans aren't fickle hahaha
Like I said earlier, who's next?
Obviously haters gonna hate but in this case I'm not going to use Gabby to vent against....be interesting to see who some of you start on this season if we don't get promoted.
I'll vent against any player who takes the piss out of the club I love and the loyal fans that pay his extortionate salary if that's ok with you?
And what are you going to do if it's not ok Mr Keyboard warrior?
Yeah Villa fans aren't fickle hahaha
Like I said earlier, who's next?
Nose alert.
It strikes me that Gabby is one of these people who blames everyone else for his problems and has a real persecution complex. It really is ridiculously easy to be popular with Villa fans, despite what the press and fans of our local rivals would have you believe. Try hard, at least look like you care, and if you happen to contribute to a winning cause all the better. Gabby has singularly failed to do this. Last season was the most traumatic I've experienced as a fan and where was he? Tossing it off and taking the piss and blaming it on everyone but him. Wanker.
Obviously haters gonna hate but in this case I'm not going to use Gabby to vent against....be interesting to see who some of you start on this season if we don't get promoted.
I'll vent against any player who takes the piss out of the club I love and the loyal fans that pay his extortionate salary if that's ok with you?
And what are you going to do if it's not ok Mr Keyboard warrior?
Yeah Villa fans aren't fickle hahaha
Like I said earlier, who's next?
Nose alert.
Sir Ozvilla, that's an awful aspiration to cast upon a mere babe,
My dearest jimmy shoe are you that word that my friend has accused you of, are you? (he says weeping)
"Keyboard warrior" is awful internet chat.
Where has N'zogbia ended up ?
Just wondering
RE: Zog
On the footballing scrapheap with piles of money.
Obviously haters gonna hate but in this case I'm not going to use Gabby to vent against....be interesting to see who some of you start on this season if we don't get promoted.
Obviously haters gonna hate but in this case I'm not going to use Gabby to vent against....be interesting to see who some of you start on this season if we don't get promoted.
I'll vent against any player who takes the piss out of the club I love and the loyal fans that pay his extortionate salary if that's ok with you?
And what are you going to do if it's not ok Mr Keyboard warrior?
Yeah Villa fans aren't fickle hahaha
Like I said earlier, who's next?
Nose alert.
Sir Ozvilla, that's an awful aspiration to cast upon a mere babe,
My dearest jimmy shoe are you that word that my friend has accused you of, are you? (he says weeping)
No I'm a Villan, who was there at VP from the 70's until I left Birmingham in 2003 for Australia. Ozvilla I travel around pm me I'd like to meet you.
No I'm a Villan, who was there at VP from the 70's until I left Birmingham in 2003 for Australia. Ozvilla I travel around pm me I'd like to meet you.H&V turning in to a dating site...nice :)
Obviously haters gonna hate but in this case I'm not going to use Gabby to vent against....be interesting to see who some of you start on this season if we don't get promoted.
Imo a fit and motivated Gabby is as good as any of the other forwards we have but last season was a nightmare and he went AWOL when we needed him most.
Obviously haters gonna hate but in this case I'm not going to use Gabby to vent against....be interesting to see who some of you start on this season if we don't get promoted.
I'll vent against any player who takes the piss out of the club I love and the loyal fans that pay his extortionate salary if that's ok with you?
And what are you going to do if it's not ok Mr Keyboard warrior?
Yeah Villa fans aren't fickle hahaha
Like I said earlier, who's next?
Nose alert.
Sir Ozvilla, that's an awful aspiration to cast upon a mere babe,
My dearest jimmy shoe are you that word that my friend has accused you of, are you? (he says weeping)
No I'm a Villan, who was there at VP from the 70's until I left Birmingham in 2003 for Australia. Ozvilla I travel around pm me I'd like to meet you.
So you're in your 50's and using phrases such as 'haters gonna hate' and 'keyboard warriors', ok then.
You have an opinion mine differs, you choose to find fault with people who do what you can't....haters gonna hate.
I could write that my opinions on Axl Rose but life's too short 😉 haha
Obviously haters gonna hate but in this case I'm not going to use Gabby to vent against....be interesting to see who some of you start on this season if we don't get promoted.
I'll vent against any player who takes the piss out of the club I love and the loyal fans that pay his extortionate salary if that's ok with you?
And what are you going to do if it's not ok Mr Keyboard warrior?
Yeah Villa fans aren't fickle hahaha
Like I said earlier, who's next?
Nose alert.
Sir Ozvilla, that's an awful aspiration to cast upon a mere babe,
My dearest jimmy shoe are you that word that my friend has accused you of, are you? (he says weeping)
No I'm a Villan, who was there at VP from the 70's until I left Birmingham in 2003 for Australia. Ozvilla I travel around pm me I'd like to meet you.
So you're in your 50's and using phrases such as 'haters gonna hate' and 'keyboard warriors', ok then.
The biggest mistake the Club made was making him club captain. It was bad enough team captain when he had none of the abilities to captain the team but to make him club captain made him believe he was bigger than the Club itself. He showed contempt for the Club and the supporters, the people that would spend their last penny following the Villa. His tweet of 'haters gonna hate' was him sticking his fingers up at the supporters and saying "I'm a rich footballer, you have nothing, so f*** off".
Although not a top class player, he could have gone on to have a one-club career and respect from the fans if he understood professionalism. The way it is looking, he will be a one-club player but his career finishing at 30. He has brought the club and football into disrepute.
True that we can't do what he can do. Can't get massively overweight. Can't frolic with slappers in a Mayfair hotel. Can't smoke like a chimney. Can't get embroiled in paternity suits over extra marital babies. Can't get all over the tabloids. Can't have pictures taken looking stoned. Can't drink like a fish. Can't gamble in casinos like a drunken sailor. Can't do all of those things when club captain plummeting towards seventeen points and three wins in a season of inevitable relegation. It's not a question of "haters gonna hate",. it's decent ordinary Villa fans finding what he has allowed himself to become is totally repellent.
There are a lot of trolls out thereAren't there just....
Obviously haters gonna hate but in this case I'm not going to use Gabby to vent against....be interesting to see who some of you start on this season if we don't get promoted.
I'll vent against any player who takes the piss out of the club I love and the loyal fans that pay his extortionate salary if that's ok with you?
And what are you going to do if it's not ok Mr Keyboard warrior?
Yeah Villa fans aren't fickle hahaha
Like I said earlier, who's next?
Nose alert.
Sir Ozvilla, that's an awful aspiration to cast upon a mere babe,
My dearest jimmy shoe are you that word that my friend has accused you of, are you? (he says weeping)
No I'm a Villan, who was there at VP from the 70's until I left Birmingham in 2003 for Australia. Ozvilla I travel around pm me I'd like to meet you.
So you're in your 50's and using phrases such as 'haters gonna hate' and 'keyboard warriors', ok then.
You have an opinion mine differs, you choose to find fault with people who do what you can't....haters gonna hate.
I could write that my opinions on Axl Rose but life's too short 😉 haha
I await your tirade.
I certainly couldn't be a c u next Tuesday to the club I love, which is exactly what Agbonlahor has done countless times. If that's a benchmark for doing what I can't do, then I'm happy to live with that.
In fairness he never asked to be captain and His reaction to Twitter comments is common in today's footballer world of interaction with fans...I genuinely don't think he is that stupid that it was aimed at fans who spend money week in week out following us. There are a lot of trolls out there who have never set foot in villa park.
That said he's been very naive and has tarnished his history with us and for that deserves criticism.
Shockingly bad. Everyone knows you're supposed to type "h8rz gonna h8".
When he broke through he was an purely a fast athlete (I even remember one of the coaches describing him as this). To his credit he developed his game and evolved to become a reasonably decent focal point of the attack. Not to mention he played out of position as a winger on numerous occasions without any grumbling.
It's strange that the hard work, team ethic and hunger which got him this far seems to have completely vanished. What changed? He was always on good money so it cannot simply just be the new contract?
When he broke through he was an purely a fast athlete (I even remember one of the coaches describing him as this). To his credit he developed his game and evolved to become a reasonably decent focal point of the attack. Not to mention he played out of position as a winger on numerous occasions without any grumbling.
It's strange that the hard work, team ethic and hunger which got him this far seems to have completely vanished. What changed? He was always on good money so it cannot simply just be the new contract?
I think the niggles he got made it harder for him to regain fitness quickly and he got lazier each subsequent time he was injured.
When he broke through he was an purely a fast athlete (I even remember one of the coaches describing him as this). To his credit he developed his game and evolved to become a reasonably decent focal point of the attack. Not to mention he played out of position as a winger on numerous occasions without any grumbling.
It's strange that the hard work, team ethic and hunger which got him this far seems to have completely vanished. What changed? He was always on good money so it cannot simply just be the new contract?
I think the niggles he got made it harder for him to regain fitness quickly and he got lazier each subsequent time he was injured.
He's scored some of the best goals I've seen over the past ten years in terms of how happy they've made me, but that's a long time ago. He gave up and hasn't offered us anything in a long, long time, so much so that he's taking the piss with his attitude.
He's scored some of the best goals I've seen over the past ten years in terms of how happy they've made me, but that's a long time ago. He gave up and hasn't offered us anything in a long, long time, so much so that he's taking the piss with his attitude.
This sums it up for me. I fail to understand why anyone would say differently. To be fair, even under MON, his highest goal tally was only 13 (iirc). The ear cupping shit last season was such a "I don't give a fuck what you think, I think I am brilliant" knock at the fans that he should have been dragged of immediately by 'Mr 35 years experience'. To do what he did last season, not once, but at least twice just shows you the contempt in which he holds the fans, the club, the management. He does not deserve another chance. The man is a disgrace. My job is a sensitive one, but I know that, if I chose to act in the way Agbonlahor did, I would not get another job anywhere. Totally undeserving of another four year contract and this shows me how plainly idiotic the hierarchy was to award poor performance.
What other professional sports club would let a highly paid individual take the piss for the best part of six years.
What other professional sports club would let a highly paid individual take the piss for the best part of six years.
Gabby is the single greatest example of the incompetence of the Lerner years. He reflects the way the club was being managed, lazy, ignorant and showing no desire, a near enough will be good enough approach.
It went right through from the owner, chief exec, coaching staff and club captain. Gabby is
a relic of this. He'll have regrets one day I'm sure.
Haterz gonna hate.
Players gonna procreate.
And not play, much.
What other professional sports club would let a highly paid individual take the piss for the best part of six years.
Jim to the thread.Haterz gonna hate.
Players gonna procreate.
And not play, much.
What other professional sports club would let a highly paid individual take the piss for the best part of six years.
How long was Zigic at the Blues for?
Gabby for a period was unplayable at times. Two footed, could head the ball and lightning speed. Even as he bulked up he acted quite adequately playing up front on his own. He just lost track of what it is that made him potentially very good footballer and the money, fame etc got the better of him. Throw in the turmoil at the club, next to now structure at all coupled with idiots that thought paying him even more would be the solution and the train that was going off track finally came off it. It's a shame that he didn't become one of the great Villa players in history and instead this is where we are.
wise words mateGabby for a period was unplayable at times. Two footed, could head the ball and lightning speed. Even as he bulked up he acted quite adequately playing up front on his own. He just lost track of what it is that made him potentially very good footballer and the money, fame etc got the better of him. Throw in the turmoil at the club, next to now structure at all coupled with idiots that thought paying him even more would be the solution and the train that was going off track finally came off it. It's a shame that he didn't become one of the great Villa players in history and instead this is where we are.
I can give a personal quote x lad is a footballer he is tricky scores goals from anywhere and is not far off the pace of Gabby .
But they like his pace .it's direct and that is what they are looking for . I would have been screwed so would Gary and Gordon ...and loads of others
The boy A everybody loves . respectful not a hint of arrogance off the field .
But I think this determination is going to make him fall out of love for football .
He is a Villa fan first and a footballer second .Some people just don't get it .
So sorry for lad x gutted for him as are most of the coaching staff .
Good luck .
I was chatting to Paul Reaney (ex Leeds full back) last year, he was telling me that he and some of the players from the title winning side were hoping to hire venues to do Q&A sessions as several of them are struggling financially and not in great health. This is a man who played over 500 games for Leeds, winning the title and FA Cup and who George Best described as his toughest opponent and the best defender he faced.In similar vein, I met Brendan Ormsby a few years' ago. Neither an international nor major trophy winner but a former England youth captain and briefly a bit of a potential star.
The following day I saw that arrogant cock Danny Mills, who never won a thing as a player and played in the same position as Reaney but retired an incredibly wealthy man. I know they're different times and all that but like Agbonlahor, Mills wasn't fit to lace the boots of players from a previous era but have been rewarded excessively for their mediocrity.
I was chatting to Paul Reaney (ex Leeds full back) last year, he was telling me that he and some of the players from the title winning side were hoping to hire venues to do Q&A sessions as several of them are struggling financially and not in great health. This is a man who played over 500 games for Leeds, winning the title and FA Cup and who George Best described as his toughest opponent and the best defender he faced.
The following day I saw that arrogant cock Danny Mills, who never won a thing as a player and played in the same position as Reaney but retired an incredibly wealthy man. I know they're different times and all that but like Agbonlahor, Mills wasn't fit to lace the boots of players from a previous era but have been rewarded excessively for their mediocrity.
What other professional sports club would let a highly paid individual take the piss for the best part of six years.
Gabby is the single greatest example of the incompetence of the Lerner years. He reflects the way the club was being managed, lazy, ignorant and showing no desire, a near enough will be good enough approach.
It went right through from the owner, chief exec, coaching staff and club captain. Gabby is
a relic of this. He'll have regrets one day I'm sure.
He's the poster boy for the meek acceptance of the truly mediocre of the last six years.
Gabby for a period was unplayable at times. Two footed, could head the ball and lightning speed. Even as he bulked up he acted quite adequately playing up front on his own. He just lost track of what it is that made him potentially very good footballer and the money, fame etc got the better of him. Throw in the turmoil at the club, next to now structure at all coupled with idiots that thought paying him even more would be the solution and the train that was going off track finally came off it. It's a shame that he didn't become one of the great Villa players in history and instead this is where we are.
I can give a personal quote x lad is a footballer he is tricky scores goals from anywhere and is not far off the pace of Gabby .
But they like his pace .it's direct and that is what they are looking for . I would have been screwed so would Gary and Gordon ...and loads of others
The boy A everybody loves . respectful not a hint of arrogance off the field .
But I think this determination is going to make him fall out of love for football .
He is a Villa fan first and a footballer second .Some people just don't get it .
So sorry for lad x gutted for him as are most of the coaching staff .
Good luck .
I was chatting to Paul Reaney (ex Leeds full back) last year, he was telling me that he and some of the players from the title winning side were hoping to hire venues to do Q&A sessions as several of them are struggling financially and not in great health. This is a man who played over 500 games for Leeds, winning the title and FA Cup and who George Best described as his toughest opponent and the best defender he faced.
The following day I saw that arrogant cock Danny Mills, who never won a thing as a player and played in the same position as Reaney but retired an incredibly wealthy man. I know they're different times and all that but like Agbonlahor, Mills wasn't fit to lace the boots of players from a previous era but have been rewarded excessively for their mediocrity.
So your point is .... modern footballers get paid well?
I thought this was a thread on objectionable, piss-taking behaviour over a number of years by Gabby. Like him or not, Danny Mills is not the same thing at all - made the best of his modest talent, committed, ended up winning 30 odd England caps.
Stop Your HobnobbingI was chatting to Paul Reaney (ex Leeds full back) last year, he was telling me that he and some of the players from the title winning side were hoping to hire venues to do Q&A sessions as several of them are struggling financially and not in great health. This is a man who played over 500 games for Leeds, winning the title and FA Cup and who George Best described as his toughest opponent and the best defender he faced.
The following day I saw that arrogant cock Danny Mills, who never won a thing as a player and played in the same position as Reaney but retired an incredibly wealthy man. I know they're different times and all that but like Agbonlahor, Mills wasn't fit to lace the boots of players from a previous era but have been rewarded excessively for their mediocrity.
So your point is .... modern footballers get paid well?
I thought this was a thread on objectionable, piss-taking behaviour over a number of years by Gabby. Like him or not, Danny Mills is not the same thing at all - made the best of his modest talent, committed, ended up winning 30 odd England caps.
Sorry Vegas, would you like me to run things past you first?
You are aware of how H&V runs I take it. We'll be talking about biscuits or show horning Pretenders song lyrics sooner or later. I think it's only fair to warn you.
Glad you said that. Thought it was just me lol.Gabby for a period was unplayable at times. Two footed, could head the ball and lightning speed. Even as he bulked up he acted quite adequately playing up front on his own. He just lost track of what it is that made him potentially very good footballer and the money, fame etc got the better of him. Throw in the turmoil at the club, next to now structure at all coupled with idiots that thought paying him even more would be the solution and the train that was going off track finally came off it. It's a shame that he didn't become one of the great Villa players in history and instead this is where we are.
I can give a personal quote x lad is a footballer he is tricky scores goals from anywhere and is not far off the pace of Gabby .
But they like his pace .it's direct and that is what they are looking for . I would have been screwed so would Gary and Gordon ...and loads of others
The boy A everybody loves . respectful not a hint of arrogance off the field .
But I think this determination is going to make him fall out of love for football .
He is a Villa fan first and a footballer second .Some people just don't get it .
So sorry for lad x gutted for him as are most of the coaching staff .
Good luck .
I don't get it.
Gabby for a period was unplayable at times. Two footed, could head the ball and lightning speed. Even as he bulked up he acted quite adequately playing up front on his own. He just lost track of what it is that made him potentially very good footballer and the money, fame etc got the better of him. Throw in the turmoil at the club, next to now structure at all coupled with idiots that thought paying him even more would be the solution and the train that was going off track finally came off it. It's a shame that he didn't become one of the great Villa players in history and instead this is where we are.
I can give a personal quote x lad is a footballer he is tricky scores goals from anywhere and is not far off the pace of Gabby .
But they like his pace .it's direct and that is what they are looking for . I would have been screwed so would Gary and Gordon ...and loads of others
The boy A everybody loves . respectful not a hint of arrogance off the field .
But I think this determination is going to make him fall out of love for football .
He is a Villa fan first and a footballer second .Some people just don't get it .
So sorry for lad x gutted for him as are most of the coaching staff .
Good luck .
I don't get it.
I was chatting to Paul Reaney (ex Leeds full back) last year, he was telling me that he and some of the players from the title winning side were hoping to hire venues to do Q&A sessions as several of them are struggling financially and not in great health. This is a man who played over 500 games for Leeds, winning the title and FA Cup and who George Best described as his toughest opponent and the best defender he faced.In similar vein, I met Brendan Ormsby a few years' ago. Neither an international nor major trophy winner but a former England youth captain and briefly a bit of a potential star.
The following day I saw that arrogant cock Danny Mills, who never won a thing as a player and played in the same position as Reaney but retired an incredibly wealthy man. I know they're different times and all that but like Agbonlahor, Mills wasn't fit to lace the boots of players from a previous era but have been rewarded excessively for their mediocrity.
He'd just finished his post-delivery round and looked a little run down
With League and European Cup winners medals in his back pocket, why wouldn't he be loving it? Money can't buy you love. Coke and hookers,yes, but love, no.
I was chatting to Paul Reaney (ex Leeds full back) last year, he was telling me that he and some of the players from the title winning side were hoping to hire venues to do Q&A sessions as several of them are struggling financially and not in great health. This is a man who played over 500 games for Leeds, winning the title and FA Cup and who George Best described as his toughest opponent and the best defender he faced.In similar vein, I met Brendan Ormsby a few years' ago. Neither an international nor major trophy winner but a former England youth captain and briefly a bit of a potential star.
The following day I saw that arrogant cock Danny Mills, who never won a thing as a player and played in the same position as Reaney but retired an incredibly wealthy man. I know they're different times and all that but like Agbonlahor, Mills wasn't fit to lace the boots of players from a previous era but have been rewarded excessively for their mediocrity.
He'd just finished his post-delivery round and looked a little run down
I spoke to Spinky last night , hes a van driver now and absolutely loves it by the way
He was earning about £700 a week at his peak , I dont know how much that is in todays currency thou .
I think it's Danny Mills - certainly one of that era of Leeds players - who used to live close to Gary Williams. "He waves his wallet at me. I wave my medals."
probably safe to say nowhere near 25k a week, even factoring in inflation since early 90's. Glad to hear he loves doing what he does now. Bet he gets loads of offers to 'stop for a cup of tea Nige'I was chatting to Paul Reaney (ex Leeds full back) last year, he was telling me that he and some of the players from the title winning side were hoping to hire venues to do Q&A sessions as several of them are struggling financially and not in great health. This is a man who played over 500 games for Leeds, winning the title and FA Cup and who George Best described as his toughest opponent and the best defender he faced.In similar vein, I met Brendan Ormsby a few years' ago. Neither an international nor major trophy winner but a former England youth captain and briefly a bit of a potential star.
The following day I saw that arrogant cock Danny Mills, who never won a thing as a player and played in the same position as Reaney but retired an incredibly wealthy man. I know they're different times and all that but like Agbonlahor, Mills wasn't fit to lace the boots of players from a previous era but have been rewarded excessively for their mediocrity.
He'd just finished his post-delivery round and looked a little run down
I spoke to Spinky last night , hes a van driver now and absolutely loves it by the way
He was earning about £700 a week at his peak , I dont know how much that is in todays currency thou .
So is Gabby lad A or x?
So is Gabby lad A or x?
I was chatting to Paul Reaney (ex Leeds full back) last year, he was telling me that he and some of the players from the title winning side were hoping to hire venues to do Q&A sessions as several of them are struggling financially and not in great health. This is a man who played over 500 games for Leeds, winning the title and FA Cup and who George Best described as his toughest opponent and the best defender he faced.In similar vein, I met Brendan Ormsby a few years' ago. Neither an international nor major trophy winner but a former England youth captain and briefly a bit of a potential star.
The following day I saw that arrogant cock Danny Mills, who never won a thing as a player and played in the same position as Reaney but retired an incredibly wealthy man. I know they're different times and all that but like Agbonlahor, Mills wasn't fit to lace the boots of players from a previous era but have been rewarded excessively for their mediocrity.
He'd just finished his post-delivery round and looked a little run down
I spoke to Spinky last night , hes a van driver now and absolutely loves it by the way
He was earning about £700 a week at his peak , I dont know how much that is in todays currency thou .
About £700 or 700 Euros.
[/quote]I was chatting to Paul Reaney (ex Leeds full back) last year, he was telling me that he and some of the players from the title winning side were hoping to hire venues to do Q&A sessions as several of them are struggling financially and not in great health. This is a man who played over 500 games for Leeds, winning the title and FA Cup and who George Best described as his toughest opponent and the best defender he faced.In similar vein, I met Brendan Ormsby a few years' ago. Neither an international nor major trophy winner but a former England youth captain and briefly a bit of a potential star.
The following day I saw that arrogant cock Danny Mills, who never won a thing as a player and played in the same position as Reaney but retired an incredibly wealthy man. I know they're different times and all that but like Agbonlahor, Mills wasn't fit to lace the boots of players from a previous era but have been rewarded excessively for their mediocrity.
He'd just finished his post-delivery round and looked a little run down
I spoke to Spinky last night , hes a van driver now and absolutely loves it by the way
He was earning about £700 a week at his peak , I dont know how much that is in todays currency thou .
I was chatting to Paul Reaney (ex Leeds full back) last year, he was telling me that he and some of the players from the title winning side were hoping to hire venues to do Q&A sessions as several of them are struggling financially and not in great health. This is a man who played over 500 games for Leeds, winning the title and FA Cup and who George Best described as his toughest opponent and the best defender he faced.In similar vein, I met Brendan Ormsby a few years' ago. Neither an international nor major trophy winner but a former England youth captain and briefly a bit of a potential star.
The following day I saw that arrogant cock Danny Mills, who never won a thing as a player and played in the same position as Reaney but retired an incredibly wealthy man. I know they're different times and all that but like Agbonlahor, Mills wasn't fit to lace the boots of players from a previous era but have been rewarded excessively for their mediocrity.
He'd just finished his post-delivery round and looked a little run down
I spoke to Spinky last night , hes a van driver now and absolutely loves it by the way
He was earning about £700 a week at his peak , I dont know how much that is in todays currency thou .
One of my best friends is Black Country born Bobby Shinton. He played No 9 for Newcastle and Manchester City. He also holds goal scoring records and fan popularity trophies from his time at Wrexham. He is now a very good and endlessly helpful yard man at our local builders' merchant. Like I say to him, he has lived the dream. It can never be taken away from him and money cannot buy it.
I was chatting to Paul Reaney (ex Leeds full back) last year, he was telling me that he and some of the players from the title winning side were hoping to hire venues to do Q&A sessions as several of them are struggling financially and not in great health. This is a man who played over 500 games for Leeds, winning the title and FA Cup and who George Best described as his toughest opponent and the best defender he faced.In similar vein, I met Brendan Ormsby a few years' ago. Neither an international nor major trophy winner but a former England youth captain and briefly a bit of a potential star.
The following day I saw that arrogant cock Danny Mills, who never won a thing as a player and played in the same position as Reaney but retired an incredibly wealthy man. I know they're different times and all that but like Agbonlahor, Mills wasn't fit to lace the boots of players from a previous era but have been rewarded excessively for their mediocrity.
He'd just finished his post-delivery round and looked a little run down
I spoke to Spinky last night , hes a van driver now and absolutely loves it by the way
He was earning about £700 a week at his peak , I dont know how much that is in todays currency thou .
About £700 or 700 Euros.
In those days I was earning about £68 a week working at the DHSS. Worked out at just under £300 a month and my rent was £47 a month.
So Nigel Spink earned more than twice as much in a week as I did in a month. Now players earn more than twice as much in a week than most people do in a year.
Anyone got a copy of championship manager 94?I was chatting to Paul Reaney (ex Leeds full back) last year, he was telling me that he and some of the players from the title winning side were hoping to hire venues to do Q&A sessions as several of them are struggling financially and not in great health. This is a man who played over 500 games for Leeds, winning the title and FA Cup and who George Best described as his toughest opponent and the best defender he faced.In similar vein, I met Brendan Ormsby a few years' ago. Neither an international nor major trophy winner but a former England youth captain and briefly a bit of a potential star.
The following day I saw that arrogant cock Danny Mills, who never won a thing as a player and played in the same position as Reaney but retired an incredibly wealthy man. I know they're different times and all that but like Agbonlahor, Mills wasn't fit to lace the boots of players from a previous era but have been rewarded excessively for their mediocrity.
He'd just finished his post-delivery round and looked a little run down
I spoke to Spinky last night , hes a van driver now and absolutely loves it by the way
He was earning about £700 a week at his peak , I dont know how much that is in todays currency thou .
About £700 or 700 Euros.
In those days I was earning about £68 a week working at the DHSS. Worked out at just under £300 a month and my rent was £47 a month.
So Nigel Spink earned more than twice as much in a week as I did in a month. Now players earn more than twice as much in a week than most people do in a year.
That can't be right about Spink. He played in the early 90s when I'd have thought even average players at Premier League clubs would have been on a few grand a week. Even if he wasn't one of the highest paid stars, there's no way the most he earned was £35,000 a year.
For what it is worth Bobby believes his career was stalled at the top level by Malcolm Alison whom he says was determined to sell him.Bobby Shinton was a right winger.Big Mal obviously preffered Dave Bennet for that position
I was chatting to Paul Reaney (ex Leeds full back) last year, he was telling me that he and some of the players from the title winning side were hoping to hire venues to do Q&A sessions as several of them are struggling financially and not in great health. This is a man who played over 500 games for Leeds, winning the title and FA Cup and who George Best described as his toughest opponent and the best defender he faced.In similar vein, I met Brendan Ormsby a few years' ago. Neither an international nor major trophy winner but a former England youth captain and briefly a bit of a potential star.
The following day I saw that arrogant cock Danny Mills, who never won a thing as a player and played in the same position as Reaney but retired an incredibly wealthy man. I know they're different times and all that but like Agbonlahor, Mills wasn't fit to lace the boots of players from a previous era but have been rewarded excessively for their mediocrity.
He'd just finished his post-delivery round and looked a little run down
I spoke to Spinky last night , hes a van driver now and absolutely loves it by the way
He was earning about £700 a week at his peak , I dont know how much that is in todays currency thou .
About £700 or 700 Euros.
In those days I was earning about £68 a week working at the DHSS. Worked out at just under £300 a month and my rent was £47 a month.
So Nigel Spink earned more than twice as much in a week as I did in a month. Now players earn more than twice as much in a week than most people do in a year.
That can't be right about Spink. He played in the early 90s when I'd have thought even average players at Premier League clubs would have been on a few grand a week. Even if he wasn't one of the highest paid stars, there's no way the most he earned was £35,000 a year.
Paul McGrath broke our wage structure on about £1,500 a week when he arrived and not long after Chris Woods was reckoned to be the highest-paid player in Britain on three grand.
Paul McGrath broke our wage structure on about £1,500 a week when he arrived and not long after Chris Woods was reckoned to be the highest-paid player in Britain on three grand.back then though, even early sky days, most of the players wages would be paid for by income to the club. I'm not suggesting Villa were relative paupers back then, possibly the opposite, but the wages would likely still be a fairly high percentage of club revenue I would guess?
if i start to talk to some stranger and they say they have no interest in football, i think there must be something wrong with him, he must have a very boring limited life, when in reality its probably me
in fairness to the footballers earning mega millions they are in the biggest entertainment industry in the world,
football is massive world wide it dominates peoples lives its probably what most people talk about in a social environment
there's a few hundred people just on this site picking to bits everything that goes on in our club from the ticket office workers to the chairman,
if we have a international weekend or a non football weekend life stops still, people get bored they don't know what to do, its that life dominating
I think I've posted this before, but back in the day on my paper round I delivered the Daily Express to John Wile when he was captain of the Albion, i.e. a top flight footballer of what was then a club who had a handful of seasons when they qualified for Europe. Nice four bedroom detached but nothing more than any moderately successful middle manager would have lived in and his wife drove a fairly basic late 70s Austin Mini. I don't know what he earned, but I guess the family budget was pretty tight as he never gave me a Christmas tip.
By "at his peak" Spink could have meant his best playing days, which would have been maybe mid-eighties.
in fairness to the footballers earning mega millions they are in the biggest entertainment industry in the world,
football is massive world wide it dominates peoples lives its probably what most people talk about in a social environment
there's a few hundred people just on this site picking to bits everything that goes on in our club from the ticket office workers to the chairman,
if we have a international weekend or a non football weekend life stops still, people get bored they don't know what to do, its that life dominating
i count myself in the same boat,
football is massively important to me, i'l travel hundreds of miles to see utter shit then travel back moaning like fuck, i will drag my little 8 year old all over the country trying to instill 'the Villa' into him, my big lad had the same brainwashing
my misses just shakes her head at the ridiculousness of it all
if i start to talk to some stranger and they say they have no interest in football, i think there must be something wrong with him, he must have a very boring limited life, when in reality its probably me
i spend far to much money on football to really be able to realistically justify it, tickets, travel, shirts, sky, BT etc, why, because its what we want to do, its what makes the world go round for most of us
all that money goes somewhere and at the moment its going into the players pockets, they are taking advantage of the global phenomenon which is the game we love today
basically its our fault folks, if we stopped being interested in football and stopped spending so much on following it either on foot or on telly they wouldn't get earn so much
but some other section of society's entertainment industry would
I think top footballers deserve to make a lot of money, it's the giving ridiculous money to run of the mill footballers that I object to.
I think top footballers deserve to make a lot of money, it's the giving ridiculous money to run of the mill footballers that I object to.
My thoughts exactly.
I have no major problem with Aguero picking up 200k a week, it's the likes of Ciaran Clark on 50k a week that bothers me.
Should we read anything into the fact that Gabby appears in today's squad photo?!?There are more than one or two piss-taking twats where I work but if you are on the books then you can be in the photo.
Should we read anything into the fact that Gabby appears in today's squad photo?!?Due to the gruelling season ahead, he is unfortunately with us until at least January, by which time he will probably have made half a dozen, possibly substitute appearances, and also scored a couple of goals.
Should we read anything into the fact that Gabby appears in today's squad photo?!?Due to the gruelling season ahead, he is unfortunately with us until at least January, by which time he will probably have made half a dozen, possibly substitute appearances, and also scored a couple of goals.
Twitter tells me he will be off to the MLS in January.Would that be the Minworth Lidl Shop. Well he should be able to drive there!
That wanker shouldn't be anywhere near that photo.
Don't care what he does for the next dew years as long as it is not at our clubs expense. But something tells me this guy will stick around until his contract is bought out by us. Football is not a motivating factor for him and he really doesn't care since he's been found out by the "haterz".
and your train of thought
and your train of thought
I thought he was going to rant and go off the rails
Yes, I think we should signal an end to these puns.
We've got a great platform for a decent punathon. Don't rail against it.Yes, I think we should signal an end to these puns.
Yes, that's the ticket.
Gabby used to run like a TGV. Now a steam engine is more mobile.
Didn't Everton want Tony Hibbert to do one long before he did?Well he's one of the most bang average players to have ever played in this division but I thought he was always largely fairly popular because he always worked hard when he played...even if he was a bit pants.
Gabby Agbonlahor was back in claret and blue tonight.
But with Agbonlahor nowhere near Roberto Di Matteo's first team, the 29-year-old had to make do with a run out for the Under-23s.
The Brummie striker was named in the starting line up for the Premier League 2 fixture at Fulham's Motspur Park training ground.
Villa suffered a 3-0 defeat - and the eyes of the Birmingham Mail's scout were on Agbonlahor.
Here's a quick lowdown on how he got on:
Fitness
Agbonlahor has not played competitively for the Villa first team since a 16-minute cameo in the Premier League defeat to Swansea in March - Remi Garde's last game in charge.
He got a bit of action during the pre-season campaign, but since then he has been restricted to training with the under-23s and his own personal exercise regime.
It showed. He still looked a little overweight and his condition was even more pronounced given he was in the company of slightly-built youngsters.
Involvement
In truth he barely touched the ball (although he did touch it more than infamous first half at Tottenham last season).
His underwhelming offering was as much a result of a poor collective display from Villa as it was any fault on Agbonlahor's part.
When he did get involved he was tidy enough in possession, without doing much to hurt the opposition defence.
Our spy cannot recall any scoring chances for Agbonlahor with Villa's best opportunities falling to Rushian Hepburn-Murphy, who was wasteful in front of goal.
Agbonlahor was substituted on 59 minutes, making way for Corey Taylor.
Determination
There was one moment when he put a sprint in to beat a younger opponent to the ball with a burst of acceleration more typical of the Gabby of old.
He even tracked back to help out defensively on a couple of occasions.
It was less the contribution of a man busting a gut to get his career back on track and more the performance of a player easing his way back into action, perhaps understandable given his lack of match fitness.
Di Matteo is unlikely to change his mind about the club's current longest serving player any time soon and any clubs running the rule over him this evening will need much more convincing about him.
But it is a start...
Review of Fatty's performance w the U23s v Fuilham from Brum Mail:QuoteAgbonlahor was substituted on 59 minutes, making way for Corey Taylor.
Review of Fatty's performance w the U23s v Fuilham from Brum Mail:QuoteAgbonlahor was substituted on 59 minutes, making way for Corey Taylor.
Fucking hell. Subbed for a +40 year old headbanger who's recovering from a broken neck!
Mind you if Agbonlahor was going to be a member of Slipknot, I guess clown is as good as any.
for anyone who hasn't got a clue what I'm rambling on about. (http://www.kerrang.com/43630/corey-taylor-breaks-neck-without-realising/)
His underwhelming offering was as much a result of a poor collective display from Villa as it was any fault on Agbonlahor's part.
Still overweight? He's been pedalling that bike for all he's worth the last 3 months if his Instagram gym pics are true and not staged.
Review of Fatty's performance w the U23s v Fuilham from Brum Mail:QuoteAgbonlahor was substituted on 59 minutes, making way for Corey Taylor.
Fucking hell. Subbed for a +40 year old headbanger who's recovering from a broken neck!
Mind you if Agbonlahor was going to be a member of Slipknot, I guess clown is as good as any.
for anyone who hasn't got a clue what I'm rambling on about. (http://www.kerrang.com/43630/corey-taylor-breaks-neck-without-realising/)
I understand, like your knowledge, and would take any of the Knot in our team over fattwatlahor.
(http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b518/Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air/1MO005ES_large_zpswzzsrji1.jpg) (http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air/media/1MO005ES_large_zpswzzsrji1.jpg.html)That's not a sample!
In the "real" world if you are not fit to do your job your employer would have grounds to dismiss you .......
I've made my thoughts on Gabby plain over the last 4 or 5 years but it must be hard to get fit and then remain close to being match fit if you've been told you have zero chance of making the first team squad.
Aston Villa boss watches Gabby Agbonlahor in action for the U23s
The development side are taking on Swansea this afternoon and the club's longest-serving player starts up front
14:33, 24 Oct 2016
Updated 14:33, 24 Oct 2016
By Gregg Evans
Gabby Agbonlahor has been handed a start for Aston Villa’s U23s as he continues his personal fitness programme at Bodymoor Heath,
The 30-year-old lines up alongside Andre Green and Keinan Davis up top for the claret and blues who take on Swansea behind closed doors this afternoon.
New boss Steve Bruce put Agbonlahor on a six-week training plan to get him up to speed for a possible first-team recall in the coming weeks.
And an impressive display in front of the watching manager will help boost his chances in the time ahead.
Agbonlahor has had a difficult time at Villa in recent years, scoring just one goal in the past 18 months.
His last appearance came in March this year and towards the end of the last campaign he was suspended following claims he was overweight and partying too often.
Former boss Roberto Di Matteo wanted the striker out but Agbonlahor turned down a loan move to Reading.
Bruce has since stressed that the slate has been wiped clean and he’s prepared to give him another chance providing he gets back to full fitness.
On Saturday he was at Villa Park watching his side beat Fulham 1-0 ahead of the Second City derby on Sunday.
Bizarrely they were showing TSM's season on the concourse before the game at Reading the other night (presumably to piss us off before the game) and although I can't remember how many goals he got or assists, he looked like if he got anywhere near that sort of fitness level he'd tear this league a new arsehole. He seemed to create a fair few for Bent.
Gabby on the move? That is a joke right?
Gabby on the move? That is a joke right?
Sofa to fridge and back to sofa again. Repeat.
Will he be on the bench?
Bizarrely they were showing TSM's season on the concourse before the game at Reading the other night (presumably to piss us off before the game) and although I can't remember how many goals he got or assists, he looked like if he got anywhere near that sort of fitness level he'd tear this league a new arsehole. He seemed to create a fair few for Bent.
He was probably our best outfield player up to xmas that season but contributed next to nothing in the second half especially when Bent got injured at Wigan.
I think that was the first warning signs then as the previous season in truth Houllier messed him around a bit and he started picking up injuries.
On the bench
On the bench
I'm no fan, but good.
On the bench
I'm no fan, but good.
He's dreadful, has an appalling attitude and is weeks off being fit, and he's on the bench? Absolutely ridiculous decision.
On the bench
I'm no fan, but good.
He's dreadful, has an appalling attitude and is weeks off being fit, and he's on the bench? Absolutely ridiculous decision.
Psycological warfare. If the games tight just warming him up will get them jittery. I recall West Brom folding like a deck of cards from 2-0 up when we bought Benteke on, and he was half fit.
On the bench
I'm no fan, but good.
He's dreadful, has an appalling attitude and is weeks off being fit, and he's on the bench? Absolutely ridiculous decision.
Psycological warfare. If the games tight just warming him up will get them jittery. I recall West Brom folding like a deck of cards from 2-0 up when we bought Benteke on, and he was half fit.
Yes, but that's Christian Benteke. Who's afraid of Gabby? Unless we bring him on and they laugh themselves to death.
It's only ridiculous if you're some some mental tin foil hat consiracy theorist determined that everything is going to be shit so you can say "I told you so." ;)
The whole regime has been rotten for years. If Bruce can make him fit then he could be a very useful addition to the squad. It's only October, long long way to go yet. Ace to see him score the winner.
Will always have a soft spot for Gabby to be fair. Obviously he's been an absolute let down the last couple of seasons but it'd be good to see him back to some sort of form.
Welcome back, Gabby. Onwards and upwards!
Welcome back, Gabby. Onwards and upwards!
Fuck him.
If he had scored the winning goal I'd still feel the same and certainly not forgive him for the past 18 months or however long it's been
Welcome back, Gabby. Onwards and upwards!
Fuck him.
If he had scored the winning goal I'd still feel the same and certainly not forgive him for the past 18 months or however long it's been
Yawn.
He's lost all of his pace and had little apart from that before he decided being professional wasn't for him. I look forward to the day he leaves.
He's lost all of his pace and had little apart from that before he decided being professional wasn't for him. I look forward to the day he leaves.
I'd trust Bruce's judgement more than yours. We might need him come the African Nations Cup.
Has it actually been confirmed yet that it was Gabby playing and not his dad? Jesus, just say no kids or you'll end up looking 50 before your time
He's lost all of his pace and had little apart from that before he decided being professional wasn't for him. I look forward to the day he leaves.pool
Yep Father's day can be a tad confusing for some.Has it actually been confirmed yet that it was Gabby playing and not his dad? Jesus, just say no kids or you'll end up looking 50 before your time
I'd be very surprised if he - or anybody else - knew who is dad was.
He epitomises everything I am beginning to despise about football and footballers.
He epitomises everything I am beginning to despise about football and footballers.
Me too, but Steve Bruce saw him as a tool in the box today.
What was the reaction from our fans?Good point. As it was at the scumboid stye he was booed anyway.
Decent percentage of you are treating him like he killed someone. Football is a fickle game, he could score 5/6 goals and nod in the winner in the play off final and he'd be the hero again. Everybody deserves another chance, the bloke has scored 84 goals for us
Will always have a soft spot for Gabby to be fair. Obviously he's been an absolute let down the last couple of seasons but it'd be good to see him back to some sort of form.
Absolutely. The hatred on here for him is laughable. I hope he gets himself match fit and then terrorises Championship defences because we need him.
What was the reaction from our fans?
He epitomises everything I am beginning to despise about football and footballers.
Me too, but Steve Bruce saw him as a tool in the box today.
I see him as a tool everywhere.
I think there is a bit of forward thinking in relation to the African Cup in January when we might possibly be without Kodjia, Ayew and Gestede. If Gabby can perform for that month so that we do not have to spend money on another striker just for covering one month, then so be it.
He is a c***. I understand some mind games against them. He shouldn't be close to the squad on Saturday.
He is a c***. I understand some mind games against them. He shouldn't be close to the squad on Saturday.At least every minute he plays gets him in the shop window :-)
He is a c***. I understand some mind games against them. He shouldn't be close to the squad on Saturday.At least every minute he plays gets him in the shop window :-)
Nice one;-)He is a c***. I understand some mind games against them. He shouldn't be close to the squad on Saturday.At least every minute he plays gets him in the shop window :-)
greggs?
He is a c***. I understand some mind games against them. He shouldn't be close to the squad on Saturday.At least every minute he plays gets him in the shop window :-)
Can't compare Westwood to fat gabby. Fat as fuck should be sent to pastures there is still a strong place for Westwood in our squad
It's because he bulked up to much. You need to work like a dog to stop it turning to fat.
It's because he bulked up to much. You need to work like a dog to stop it turning to fat.
Sorry to be a pedant but that isn't true. You need to work to maintain a level of fitness and he clearly hasn't been doing that - but muscle doesn't turn in to fat. He simply has a poor diet.
The muscle and weight gain has definitely caused him to lose speed though.
This is what earned Gabby Agbonlahor a shock Aston Villa recall - Steve Bruce
Villa boss discusses the Brummie striker's return to favour
By Gregg Evans
16:22, 4 NOV 2016Updated16:23, 4 NOV 2016
Steve Bruce reckons Gabby Agbonlahor’s positive influence on the dressing room has earned him another crack at his claret and blue career.
The 30-year-old Aston Villa stalwart is trimming down and fighting for his future after being told by the new boss to get fit and firing.
Agbonlahor made his first senior appearance for seven months against Blues last weekend and followed it up with 65 minutes of action for the U23s in their 4-0 win over Blackburn.
“He’s done nothing but galvanise the squad since I walked through the door,” admitted Bruce.
“I’m not interested in the past, that’s gone
“Basically I’ve said to him it’s up to you Gabby. I wouldn’t say last-chance saloon but to be fair to him he’s done everything he’s been asked of so far.
“In fact, so much so, that I thought he had such a big influence in the dressing room that he deserved a place on the bench last week.
“He knows, if he is to make any impact, he has to work hard and lose a bit of timber, if that’s the right way of putting it, and he’s doing everything he can.”
Agbonlahor’s weight issues were highlighted last season when he was out-of-shape and some way off a place in the squad.
In the last transfer window he even shunned a loan move as Villa looked to get rid of their longest-serving player but how the times have changed.
“I have to admit, I didn’t envisage seeing him in the team last week but his influence in the dressing room and on the pitch in the derby game was good,” added Bruce.
“I thought we were better when he was on the pitch. He gave everybody a lift.
“He’s a very good player, an Aston Villa fan, who’s played in the top league all his life and scored goals.
“If I can get him right, he could be the little bonus as a manager, that you’re always looking for because he’s a quality player.
“To play football at this level, or any level, you have to be in a physical condition to last otherwise you break down and you get injured.
“It’s a crucial two weeks for him and us.”
I'm a 6ft tall strip of piss with no pace.
I'll defer to both your superior knowledge.
Agbonlahor as we know is NOT an Aston Villa fan.Never has been.As a child he supported Arsenal.
hear hearI'm a 6ft tall strip of piss with no pace.
I'll defer to both your superior knowledge.
They are talking rubbish mate,
I can tell you from experience that I'm not fat just over muscley
In the pics a month or so back he looked in great shape. And now looking at that he looks like he swallowed Hepburn-Murphy. Fucking hell
Who gives a shit? If he gets fit and gets a few goals, fine. If he blows this last chance, then adios chubs.
I've made my thoughts on him pretty plain over the last 5 years but it was noticeable that the first player in the box for a potential rebound when Kod scored his second was Gabby having won a flick near the halfway line to start the move. At least it seems he's trying to rebuild his career and finally putting in some effort.
I've made my thoughts on him pretty plain over the last 5 years but it was noticeable that the first player in the box for a potential rebound when Kod scored his second was Gabby having won a flick near the halfway line to start the move. At least it seems he's trying to rebuild his career and finally putting in some effort.
O, oh. It must be nearing new contract time.
I've made my thoughts on him pretty plain over the last 5 years but it was noticeable that the first player in the box for a potential rebound when Kod scored his second was Gabby having won a flick near the halfway line to start the move. At least it seems he's trying to rebuild his career and finally putting in some effort.
his introduction yesterday was totally pointless as he contributed the square root of fuck all. I was amazed how leaden he looked trying to jump for the odd header. Having said that, Brian the snail has more pace than Gardiner and McCormack looks over valued by about £11.5 million.
his introduction yesterday was totally pointless as he contributed the square root of fuck all. I was amazed how leaden he looked trying to jump for the odd header. Having said that, Brian the snail has more pace than Gardiner and McCormack looks over valued by about £11.5 million.
He played a major part in the second goal. I was staggered by the reception he got, short memories.
I don't think I will ever forgive the twat for being pissed up in a hotel with a couple of girls while we were getting relegated. There was no excuse. To cheer this twat, who has had the decency to get fit to play for his 50k a week and boo Westwood, who was on the pitch shedding tears at the end is a fucking crime. I am no Westwood lover, but of all the things reading after the game today, that is just mental. I am with you adrenachrome.
his introduction yesterday was totally pointless as he contributed the square root of fuck all. I was amazed how leaden he looked trying to jump for the odd header. Having said that, Brian the snail has more pace than Gardiner and McCormack looks over valued by about £11.5 million.
If I could advise Ashley Westwood, it would be get fat, don't give a fuck for five years and you'll be welcomed back with open arms.
I don't think I will ever forgive the twat for being pissed up in a hotel with a couple of girls while we were getting relegated. There was no excuse. To cheer this twat, who has had the decency to get fit to play for his 50k a week and boo Westwood, who was on the pitch shedding tears at the end is a fucking crime. I am no Westwood lover, but of all the things reading after the game today, that is just mental. I am with you adrenachrome.
I was all ready to vent my thoughts, then realised you'd said it all for me. I was fucking stunned yesterday, just at a time when things might be looking up.
I expected a mixed reception for Gabby. Nothing like that by me, 100% support, singing his name, lapping up every touch and movement towards the ball.
If I could advise Ashley Westwood, it would be get fat, don't give a fuck for five years and you'll be welcomed back with open arms.
Even if he manages to rehabilitate himself, we may end up losing or failing to develop Green and RHM. Both have the pace we need and probably could offer at least as much as an overweight over-the-hill ne'erdowell whose attitude has stunk the last year or two. That said I'm trying to think if Bruce has ever been noted for bringing younger players through, and struggling to think of any examples.
Aston Villa striker Gabby Agbonlahor reportedly loses cash in investment scam
Gabby is one of around 100 players, including Jimmy Bullard and Robbie Keane, who were among 300 victims of a Ponzi scheme set up by ex-player Michael McIndoe
ByPhil Cardy
23:07, 5 NOV 2016Updated10:09, 6 NOV 2016
Aston Villa's Gabby Agbonlahor is believed to be one of many top footballers who became the victims of an investment scam set-up by former Wolves player Michael McIndoe.
The investment scam in which footballers lost fortunes is claiming new victims as lawyers start clawing back any profits made.
A report in our sister title The Sunday People states that up to 100 players are among 300 victims who lost £30m after being lured into an investment scheme promising a huge 20 per cent-a-month return.
Phil Cardy writes that the scheme - set up by journeyman player Michael McIndoe - crashed amid huge debts, with individual losses ranging from a few thousand pounds to more than a million.
Fraud squad detectives conducting an ongoing investigation believe Scots-born McIndoe, 36, is now living in the south of France, where he still enjoys a lavish lifestyle.
McIndoe lured people in telling them he had a miracle scheme investing in gold, stocks and London property offering massive returns each month.
Initially the former midfielder, who had a 13-year playing career at cubs including Wolves, Coventry and MK Dons, made good on those promises paying early investors handsome dividends.
But it soon emerged McIndoe’s scam was a simple 'Ponzi' scheme, named after a swindler who made a fortune through fraud in America and Canada in the 1920s.
Former Spurs striker Robbie Keane , Hull midfielder Jimmy Bullard and Aston Villa winger Gabby Agbonlahor are among those understood to have lost out.
But people lucky enough to join the scheme at the start DID make money – and it is these innocent investors who are now being pressured to hand back any dividends they were paid, the Sunday People can reveal.
Demand letters are being sent out by lawyers acting for creditors after McIndoe was made bankrupt with £3million debts. One former player is expected to be hit for a staggering £1.6million.
A source revealed: “They are being given just 14 days to return the money. People have already been stung by this scam and now even more are.”
If I could advise Ashley Westwood, it would be get fat, don't give a fuck for five years and you'll be welcomed back with open arms.
I'd give Hodge a more welcome reception than Agbonlahor, find it staggering he's welcomed back and Westwood is abused.
If I could advise Ashley Westwood, it would be get fat, don't give a fuck for five years and you'll be welcomed back with open arms.
I'd give Hodge a more welcome reception than Agbonlahor, find it staggering he's welcomed back and Westwood is abused.
Probably because Westwood has been utterly shite throughout his entire Villa career and Agbonlahor has scored more than 80 goals in a Villa shirt.
If I could advise Ashley Westwood, it would be get fat, don't give a fuck for five years and you'll be welcomed back with open arms.
I'd give Hodge a more welcome reception than Agbonlahor, find it staggering he's welcomed back and Westwood is abused.
Probably because Westwood has been utterly shite throughout his entire Villa career and Agbonlahor has scored more than 80 goals in a Villa shirt.
Birmingham MailQuoteAston Villa striker Gabby Agbonlahor reportedly loses cash in investment scam
Gabby is one of around 100 players, including Jimmy Bullard and Robbie Keane, who were among 300 victims of a Ponzi scheme set up by ex-player Michael McIndoe
ByPhil Cardy
23:07, 5 NOV 2016Updated10:09, 6 NOV 2016
Aston Villa's Gabby Agbonlahor is believed to be one of many top footballers who became the victims of an investment scam set-up by former Wolves player Michael McIndoe.
The investment scam in which footballers lost fortunes is claiming new victims as lawyers start clawing back any profits made.
A report in our sister title The Sunday People states that up to 100 players are among 300 victims who lost £30m after being lured into an investment scheme promising a huge 20 per cent-a-month return.
Phil Cardy writes that the scheme - set up by journeyman player Michael McIndoe - crashed amid huge debts, with individual losses ranging from a few thousand pounds to more than a million.
Fraud squad detectives conducting an ongoing investigation believe Scots-born McIndoe, 36, is now living in the south of France, where he still enjoys a lavish lifestyle.
McIndoe lured people in telling them he had a miracle scheme investing in gold, stocks and London property offering massive returns each month.
Initially the former midfielder, who had a 13-year playing career at cubs including Wolves, Coventry and MK Dons, made good on those promises paying early investors handsome dividends.
But it soon emerged McIndoe’s scam was a simple 'Ponzi' scheme, named after a swindler who made a fortune through fraud in America and Canada in the 1920s.
Former Spurs striker Robbie Keane , Hull midfielder Jimmy Bullard and Aston Villa winger Gabby Agbonlahor are among those understood to have lost out.
But people lucky enough to join the scheme at the start DID make money – and it is these innocent investors who are now being pressured to hand back any dividends they were paid, the Sunday People can reveal.
Demand letters are being sent out by lawyers acting for creditors after McIndoe was made bankrupt with £3million debts. One former player is expected to be hit for a staggering £1.6million.
A source revealed: “They are being given just 14 days to return the money. People have already been stung by this scam and now even more are.”
If I could advise Ashley Westwood, it would be get fat, don't give a fuck for five years and you'll be welcomed back with open arms.
I'd give Hodge a more welcome reception than Agbonlahor, find it staggering he's welcomed back and Westwood is abused.
Probably because Westwood has been utterly shite throughout his entire Villa career and Agbonlahor has scored more than 80 goals in a Villa shirt.
In how many games though? I'd argue that he's every bit as 'shite' as many are claiming Westwood is. You're also choosing to ignore the fact that Agbonlahor is an utter, utter wanker. He's the sole aspect of the Bruce tenure that I'm not happy about.
I was talking to someone about Westwood yesterday. His view was Westwood isn't the player we signed because Lambert (along with Carsa and Culverhouse) coached his confidence and ability out of him.
The big difference between the pair is that Westwood hasn't scored 80 goals? Right Ok then.
If I could advise Ashley Westwood, it would be get fat, don't give a fuck for five years and you'll be welcomed back with open arms.
I'd give Hodge a more welcome reception than Agbonlahor, find it staggering he's welcomed back and Westwood is abused.
Probably because Westwood has been utterly shite throughout his entire Villa career and Agbonlahor has scored more than 80 goals in a Villa shirt.
Damn fine player? Nowhere near, he put in a bit of effort and scored a few goals, all of which was over half a decade ago.
While i'll give Gabby some credit if he plays well as he's back in the team, as I did on Saturday, he's still a wanker i'd prefer out the club and won't be singing his name any time soon. I'm struggling to think of a more unprofessional player we've had. We've had worse players ability wise but at least they were ready to go on the pitch when needed, unlike fat boy.
As for Westwood, i'd prefer better but i'll never boo a player just because h isn't good enough for the Villa. There's been more of them than I care to remember in my time. What's Westwood meant to do, turn into Messi? We know that isn't happening. Expect him to ask not to be picked and ask to be sold because he isn't good enough? Blame him for being picked? Or expect him to do what he does, the job he's paid to do and to be on the pitch whenever the manager wants him to be?
It's one thing not to rate him and prefer him out the team, it's another to be such a twat that you boo your own player who has never been disrespectful to the club or fans but does his job but isn't as good at it as they want him to be.
Steve Bruce insists he will have the best centre-forward in the Championship to pick from him when Gabby Agbonlahor is up to absolute top speed.
Agbonlahor was put on a conditioning programme when Bruce arrived, expected to last six weeks by the manager.
However, he says the long-serving star is “ahead of schedule” as he utilised the pacey star as a substitute against both Birmingham City and Blackburn Rovers.
Bruce is excited about what Agbonlahor can offer when he’s at 100%.
He told us on Facebook Live: “Gabby made an instant impact when he came on against Blackburn. I want that for 90 minutes now rather than 20-25 minutes.
“He’s ahead of schedule. I didn’t think he’d respond the way he has done. Fair play to him.
“He’s been battered here for a while, for whatever reason. Maybe he’s say he deserved it at times.
“But make no mistake he wants to be a player again here.
“In the moments he’s played, he’s showed exactly what he wants to do. The rest is up to him.
“There’s no better centre-forward in this league if he’s fit.”
Damn fine player? Nowhere near, he put in a bit of effort and scored a few goals, all of which was over half a decade ago.
Indeed, he was a one dimensional speed merchant who did alright for a few seasons half a decade ago. A very limited player who has spent the last five years ripping the piss out of this club.
Westwood is shit, yes, but he doesn't deserve getting booed.
Agbonlahor is shit as well, but has one of the worst attitudes you'll find in a profession stock full of bad attitudes.
"Damn fine player" is so over the top, it's untrue.
He is still a gigantic c*** and he won't be getting any support from me any time this millenia.
Maybe Westwood will be approached by the dog heads now TSM2 has arrived at the molineuxEven better than that maybe Agbonlahor will be approached by Lambert.Not a chance he would leave on loan though even if we paid them his wages.
Won't boo him as I promised myself that was all done last season. Won't sing his song.
Will celebrate any goal he scores because it is a Villa goal but as far as I'm concerned he's just doing a very well-paid job now.
Won't boo him as I promised myself that was all done last season. Won't sing his song.
Will celebrate any goal he scores because it is a Villa goal but as far as I'm concerned he's just doing a very well-paid job now.
Won't boo him as I promised myself that was all done last season. Won't sing his song.If his goals get us up I'll be happy. But as you say, I won't song his name.
Will celebrate any goal he scores because it is a Villa goal but as far as I'm concerned he's just doing a very well-paid job now.
OSQuoteSteve Bruce insists he will have the best centre-forward in the Championship to pick from him when Gabby Agbonlahor is up to absolute top speed.
Agbonlahor was put on a conditioning programme when Bruce arrived, expected to last six weeks by the manager.
However, he says the long-serving star is “ahead of schedule” as he utilised the pacey star as a substitute against both Birmingham City and Blackburn Rovers.
Bruce is excited about what Agbonlahor can offer when he’s at 100%.
He told us on Facebook Live: “Gabby made an instant impact when he came on against Blackburn. I want that for 90 minutes now rather than 20-25 minutes.
“He’s ahead of schedule. I didn’t think he’d respond the way he has done. Fair play to him.
“He’s been battered here for a while, for whatever reason. Maybe he’s say he deserved it at times.
“But make no mistake he wants to be a player again here.
“In the moments he’s played, he’s showed exactly what he wants to do. The rest is up to him.
“There’s no better centre-forward in this league if he’s fit.”
Well i'm not really on about the moral stance although i'd have liked him to have been sold about 5 years ago. My worry is with Ayew and Kodjia gone at the ANC, is Nan's hair REALLY expecting Gabby to void??? That's the worrying bit....
Well i'm not really on about the moral stance although i'd have liked him to have been sold about 5 years ago. My worry is with Ayew and Kodjia gone at the ANC, is Nan's hair REALLY expecting Gabby to void??? That's the worrying bit....
I imagine he is trying to massage him a bit to see if he can get a spark out of him, and if it fails to materialise then he'll look elsewhere in January.
And 'nans hair'? It's a really strange way to describe a man who's come into our club and done really well so far. Doesn't look too good on you mate. Makes you look like a nose or something.
Well i'm not really on about the moral stance although i'd have liked him to have been sold about 5 years ago. My worry is with Ayew and Kodjia gone at the ANC, is Nan's hair REALLY expecting Gabby to fill the void??? That's the worrying bit....Nan's hair wtf you on about?
To pay him off would cost Dr Xia between three and four million so that is a no go.As plenty of posters have said we are stuck with him for around two years.He has no intention of going out on loan and will do just enough to keep in Steve Bruce's good books.
There is nothing we can do about him.He has the cub over a barrel!
I quite understand Bruce's position. As much as any of us may be disgusted by past behaviour, the idea of fresh starts to all and giving him incentive by bringing him back into the fold makes total sense.
It achieves hopefully him getting fit, and if he's up to it, having even a back up role during ACN, or getting fit and talked up enough by Bruce to be more likely to be taken by someone. He'd have to go willingly which probably requires him not to be at war with the club.
So as much as some might get a bit grizzly about it, for the sake of the club is it not some pragmatic smart ego/man management by SB?
If he was not currently disrupting, is it really worth cutting off our nose to spite our face?
To pay him off would cost Dr Xia between three and four million so that is a no go.As plenty of posters have said we are stuck with him for around two years.He has no intention of going out on loan and will do just enough to keep in Steve Bruce's good books.
There is nothing we can do about him.He has the cub over a barrel!
Bear-ly even qualifies as a player anymore. I think RHM deserves a chance
Where was young Rushian last night? If his progress is being halted for that tubby waster I'll be very cross.On England duty
Has it actually been confirmed yet that it was Gabby playing and not his dad? Jesus, just say no kids or you'll end up looking 50 before your time
I'd be very surprised if he - or anybody else - knew who his dad was.
Has it actually been confirmed yet that it was Gabby playing and not his dad? Jesus, just say no kids or you'll end up looking 50 before your time
I'd be very surprised if he - or anybody else - knew who his dad was.
His dad brought him up, so I think he would.
Has it actually been confirmed yet that it was Gabby playing and not his dad? Jesus, just say no kids or you'll end up looking 50 before your time
I'd be very surprised if he - or anybody else - knew who his dad was.
His dad brought him up, so I think he would.
A bit of black stereotyping there. I mean why would Agbonlahor not know who his dad is?
We're better than that on here.
Has it actually been confirmed yet that it was Gabby playing and not his dad? Jesus, just say no kids or you'll end up looking 50 before your time
I'd be very surprised if he - or anybody else - knew who his dad was.
His dad brought him up, so I think he would.
I quite understand Bruce's position. As much as any of us may be disgusted by past behaviour, the idea of fresh starts to all and giving him incentive by bringing him back into the fold makes total sense.
It achieves hopefully him getting fit, and if he's up to it, having even a back up role during ACN, or getting fit and talked up enough by Bruce to be more likely to be taken by someone. He'd have to go willingly which probably requires him not to be at war with the club.
So as much as some might get a bit grizzly about it, for the sake of the club is it not some pragmatic smart ego/man management by SB?
If he was not currently disrupting, is it really worth cutting off our nose to spite our face?
Whoooosh!Where was young Rushian last night? If his progress is being halted for that tubby waster I'll be very cross.On England duty
Has it actually been confirmed yet that it was Gabby playing and not his dad? Jesus, just say no kids or you'll end up looking 50 before your time
I'd be very surprised if he - or anybody else - knew who his dad was.
His dad brought him up, so I think he would.
A bit of black stereotyping there. I mean why would Agbonlahor not know who his dad is?
We're better than that on here.
Usually.
Has it actually been confirmed yet that it was Gabby playing and not his dad? Jesus, just say no kids or you'll end up looking 50 before your time
I'd be very surprised if he - or anybody else - knew who his dad was.
His dad brought him up, so I think he would.
A bit of black stereotyping there. I mean why would Agbonlahor not know who his dad is?
We're better than that on here.
Usually.
His dad is a scientist, and from what I've read he (and his wife) have done a damn fine job in bringing up their kids (who all seem to be successful in life as well).
That's how it read to me Percy.
As for auntiesledd - Really?
His dad is a scientist, and from what I've read...
That's how it read to me Percy.
As for auntiesledd - Really?
It wasn't my intention to be racially insensitive, however in hindsight it was a very cheap shot & highly regrettable. I apologise sincerely to those I have offended and 'will make sure I engage what little brain I have before commenting in future. Sorry folks.
Even though we are entitled to an opinion there are posters on here who have made comments which are un pc and dated and perhaps even offensive if actually spoken to the player , manager or fans they are people too. As well as many many comments on ladies which are primative . Comments made by anyone can be downright rude and narrow minded. Getting ourselves in order first as people and football followers is most important. That means respecting our own players lescott agbonlahor and Westwood or ex managers like lambert sherwood o neill mcleish and owners ellis and learner . If we are name calling and judging players , women and president elect trump and expressing , or selectively challenged believes, then really should we not at least look at our own behaviours. Even if we are not running for presidency of United states we should be president to our own lives and be responsible.
I've heard alot of comments on trump and heard alot too what he had to say people are no better in their remarks about him and their supporters that trump was in his comments.
Similarly alot of negative comments on gabby are mean distasteful and unfair. If people thibk it's easy being a footballer or being any thing well it's not the case.
I think himself has been badly advised and actually the football club need to take a responsibility. He represents the club is a product of tbe football club . Where was the nurturing from the club over the years to aid his development. We can't point the blame at agbonlahor solely. The system itself has let him down. Bruce has a son in football and this sort of man can also help give gabby the love to develop and finally blossom.
There is a heck amount of pressure on agbonlahor available and always has been. He's had to cope by making lifestyle choices not always best suited to his career. However the club are responsible and I hope he can now mature into a cultured player as well.
He's clearly liked by fellow team mates and professionals and made friends within the game however he needs to be given focus.
Even though we are entitled to an opinion there are posters on here who have made comments which are un pc and dated and perhaps even offensive if actually spoken to the player , manager or fans they are people too. As well as many many comments on ladies which are primative . Comments made by anyone can be downright rude and narrow minded. Getting ourselves in order first as people and football followers is most important. That means respecting our own players lescott agbonlahor and Westwood or ex managers like lambert sherwood o neill mcleish and owners ellis and learner . If we are name calling and judging players , women and president elect trump and expressing , or selectively challenged believes, then really should we not at least look at our own behaviours. Even if we are not running for presidency of United states we should be president to our own lives and be responsible.
I've heard alot of comments on trump and heard alot too what he had to say people are no better in their remarks about him and their supporters that trump was in his comments.
Similarly alot of negative comments on gabby are mean distasteful and unfair. If people thibk it's easy being a footballer or being any thing well it's not the case.
I think himself has been badly advised and actually the football club need to take a responsibility. He represents the club is a product of tbe football club . Where was the nurturing from the club over the years to aid his development. We can't point the blame at agbonlahor solely. The system itself has let him down. Bruce has a son in football and this sort of man can also help give gabby the love to develop and finally blossom.
There is a heck amount of pressure on agbonlahor available and always has been. He's had to cope by making lifestyle choices not always best suited to his career. However the club are responsible and I hope he can now mature into a cultured player as well.
He's clearly liked by fellow team mates and professionals and made friends within the game however he needs to be given focus.
Even though we are entitled to an opinion there are posters on here who have made comments which are un pc and dated and perhaps even offensive if actually spoken to the player , manager or fans they are people too. As well as many many comments on ladies which are primative . Comments made by anyone can be downright rude and narrow minded. Getting ourselves in order first as people and football followers is most important. That means respecting our own players lescott agbonlahor and Westwood or ex managers like lambert sherwood o neill mcleish and owners ellis and learner . If we are name calling and judging players , women and president elect trump and expressing , or selectively challenged believes, then really should we not at least look at our own behaviours. Even if we are not running for presidency of United states we should be president to our own lives and be responsible.
I've heard alot of comments on trump and heard alot too what he had to say people are no better in their remarks about him and their supporters that trump was in his comments.
Similarly alot of negative comments on gabby are mean distasteful and unfair. If people thibk it's easy being a footballer or being any thing well it's not the case.
I think himself has been badly advised and actually the football club need to take a responsibility. He represents the club is a product of tbe football club . Where was the nurturing from the club over the years to aid his development. We can't point the blame at agbonlahor solely. The system itself has let him down. Bruce has a son in football and this sort of man can also help give gabby the love to develop and finally blossom.
There is a heck amount of pressure on agbonlahor available and always has been. He's had to cope by making lifestyle choices not always best suited to his career. However the club are responsible and I hope he can now mature into a cultured player as well.
He's clearly liked by fellow team mates and professionals and made friends within the game however he needs to be given focus.
jesus wept
I think himself has been badly advised and actually the football club need to take a responsibility. He represents the club is a product of tbe football club . Where was the nurturing from the club over the years to aid his development. We can't point the blame at agbonlahor solely. The system itself has let him down. ...............
There is a heck amount of pressure on agbonlahor available and always has been. He's had to cope by making lifestyle choices not always best suited to his career. However the club are responsible and I hope he can now mature into a cultured player as well.
If people thibk it's easy being a footballer or being any thing well it's not the case.
I think himself has been badly advised and actually the football club need to take a responsibility. .... . Where was the nurturing from the club over the years to aid his development. We can't point the blame at agbonlahor solely. The system itself has let him down. Bruce has a son in football and this sort of man can also help give gabby the love to develop and finally blossom.
There is a heck amount of pressure on agbonlahor available and always has been. He's had to cope by making lifestyle choices not always best suited to his career. However the club are responsible and I hope he can now mature into a cultured player as well.
He's had to cope by making lifestyle choices not always best suited to his career. However the club are responsible.
However the club are responsible and I hope he can now mature into a cultured player as well.
However the club are responsible and I hope he can now mature into a cultured player as well.
Just read this again. How the flipping profanities are the club responsible for his appalling attitude and behaviour? He's a 30 year old 'professional' sportsman. He's our Farage.
All the responses to footyskillz' opus almost make me want to read it.
But not quite.
As for auntiesledd - Really?It wasn't my intention to be racially insensitive, however in hindsight it was a very cheap shot & highly regrettable. I apologise sincerely to those I have offended and 'will make sure I engage what little brain I have before commenting in future. Sorry folks.
As for auntiesledd - Really?It wasn't my intention to be racially insensitive, however in hindsight it was a very cheap shot & highly regrettable. I apologise sincerely to those I have offended and 'will make sure I engage what little brain I have before commenting in future. Sorry folks.
That's clearly a sincere apology for a throw away joke that you regret making. Fair enough and sorry to drag it up two days later but I'm amazed that you haven't been lynched on here for the joke or the description of it as 'racially insensitive'.
Racially insensitive? What does that mean? You didn't realise that black people were sensitive to being called bastards?
Your joke wasn't 'racially insensitive', it was a joke based on a racial prejudice that he's black therefore he's probably illegitimate.
Big thumbs up from me. Understand exactly where you're coming from.As for auntiesledd - Really?It wasn't my intention to be racially insensitive, however in hindsight it was a very cheap shot & highly regrettable. I apologise sincerely to those I have offended and 'will make sure I engage what little brain I have before commenting in future. Sorry folks.
That's clearly a sincere apology for a throw away joke that you regret making. Fair enough and sorry to drag it up two days later but I'm amazed that you haven't been lynched on here for the joke or the description of it as 'racially insensitive'.
Racially insensitive? What does that mean? You didn't realise that black people were sensitive to being called bastards?
Your joke wasn't 'racially insensitive', it was a joke based on a racial prejudice that he's black therefore he's probably illegitimate.
As I have already said, it was an extremely regrettable comment I made. Since rightly being called-out for saying it, I've been having a serious think about my own prejudice; why I may subconsciously harbour thoughts that I ordinarily wouldn't display outwardly in my everyday life; and - most importantly - what I can do in the present & future to both address and then resolve them. You're absolutely right to point out that my comment wasn't 'racially insensitive' and was, in fact, racist. I couldn't bring myself to just say 'racist' (in isolation) at the time - as I hate to think of myself as being a racially prejudiced person and like to think of myself as a person who is sensitive towards others. Clearly I still have deep-seated attitudes to address if I am to be the individual I aspire to be, but work on them I will. A big part of me wishes I could turn the clock back and not make my comment in the first place, however that wouldn't address the prejudice I had at the time; and it wouldn't have created a situation where I can examine my attitude(s) and ignorance. I am genuinely sorry to those I have offended and I sincerely hope that I can put into practice that which I have already learned from this very regrettable situation.
Can we get back to the point please?
Gabby is a fucking disgrace and I will be opening the champagne the day he finally leaves. He can score ten per game for now until the end of the season and that will barely make up for his attitude over the past five years.
Can we get back to the point please?
Gabby is a fucking disgrace and I will be opening the champagne the day he finally leaves. He can score ten per game for now until the end of the season and that will barely make up for his attitude over the past five years.
This for me too.
All the responses to footyskillz' opus almost make me want to read it.
But not quite.
He's taken over your mantle as Gabby-champion ;)
As for auntiesledd - Really?It wasn't my intention to be racially insensitive, however in hindsight it was a very cheap shot & highly regrettable. I apologise sincerely to those I have offended and 'will make sure I engage what little brain I have before commenting in future. Sorry folks.
That's clearly a sincere apology for a throw away joke that you regret making. Fair enough and sorry to drag it up two days later but I'm amazed that you haven't been lynched on here for the joke or the description of it as 'racially insensitive'.
Racially insensitive? What does that mean? You didn't realise that black people were sensitive to being called bastards?
Your joke wasn't 'racially insensitive', it was a joke based on a racial prejudice that he's black therefore he's probably illegitimate.
As for auntiesledd - Really?It wasn't my intention to be racially insensitive, however in hindsight it was a very cheap shot & highly regrettable. I apologise sincerely to those I have offended and 'will make sure I engage what little brain I have before commenting in future. Sorry folks.
That's clearly a sincere apology for a throw away joke that you regret making. Fair enough and sorry to drag it up two days later but I'm amazed that you haven't been lynched on here for the joke or the description of it as 'racially insensitive'.
Racially insensitive? What does that mean? You didn't realise that black people were sensitive to being called bastards?
Your joke wasn't 'racially insensitive', it was a joke based on a racial prejudice that he's black therefore he's probably illegitimate.
As I have already said, it was an extremely regrettable comment I made. Since rightly being called-out for saying it, I've been having a serious think about my own prejudice; why I may subconsciously harbour thoughts that I ordinarily wouldn't display outwardly in my everyday life; and - most importantly - what I can do in the present & future to both address and then resolve them. You're absolutely right to point out that my comment wasn't 'racially insensitive' and was, in fact, racist. I couldn't bring myself to just say 'racist' (in isolation) at the time - as I hate to think of myself as being a racially prejudiced person and like to think of myself as a person who is sensitive towards others. Clearly I still have deep-seated attitudes to address if I am to be the individual I aspire to be, but work on them I will. A big part of me wishes I could turn the clock back and not make my comment in the first place, however that wouldn't address the prejudice I had at the time; and it wouldn't have created a situation where I can examine my attitude(s) and ignorance. I am genuinely sorry to those I have offended and I sincerely hope that I can put into practice that which I have already learned from this very regrettable situation.
Fair play.Absolutely.
He's not exactly Jack the Villain is he?
Footy is having a go at defending the indefensible, when you look at all the choices he could have made as opposed to the choices he did make, there is no defence.
"Maybe" Footy he has no respect for the Club, the fans or himself.
Footy is having a go at defending the indefensible, when you look at all the choices he could have made as opposed to the choices he did make, there is no defence.
"Maybe" Footy he has no respect for the Club, the fans or himself.
I heartily disagree. Footyskillz has asked some interesting questions. I once wondered aloud (on this thread) if the fat fucker (Flabby Onegoalayear not footy) was depressed, which could have explained a few things. Doing so does not indicate a lack of respect for anything. Why do you say that?
i think I remember your mental health observations and would bow to your superior knowledge of this subject.Footy is having a go at defending the indefensible, when you look at all the choices he could have made as opposed to the choices he did make, there is no defence.
"Maybe" Footy he has no respect for the Club, the fans or himself.
I heartily disagree. Footyskillz has asked some interesting questions. I once wondered aloud (on this thread) if the fat fucker (Flabby Onegoalayear not footy) was depressed, which could have explained a few things. Doing so does not indicate a lack of respect for anything. Why do you say that?
Hang on? Whoosh moment! When you said "Footy he has no respect for the club..." I missed the 'he' and thought you were saying footyskillz had no self-respect. You meant Fatman, didn't you? In which case ignore my post heartily disagreeing with you.No way would I insult The Skillz in that way.
Hang on? Whoosh moment! When you said "Footy he has no respect for the club..." I missed the 'he' and thought you were saying footyskillz had no self-respect. You meant Fatman, didn't you? In which case ignore my post heartily disagreeing with you.
Footy is having a go at defending the indefensible, when you look at all the choices he could have made as opposed to the choices he did make, there is no defence.
"Maybe" Footy he has no respect for the Club, the fans or himself.
I heartily disagree. Footyskillz has asked some interesting questions. I once wondered aloud (on this thread) if the fat fucker (Flabby Onegoalayear not footy) was depressed, which could have explained a few things. Doing so does not indicate a lack of respect for anything. Why do you say that?
He looked really depressed when he was on the shisha in dubai, when he was pictured with two slappers the day we got relegated, when he was eating lard with a ladle
Im depressed just looking at the useless c***
Could a lack of self-respect could be a symptom or consequence of depression? Why not? I am no expert though so please don't bow.Yes it is a symptom.
When is his contract up?. Does anyone have an exact date?.
That thought had occurred to me.!When is his contract up?. Does anyone have an exact date?.
You'll know when his contract is nearing expiry - he puts in 3 or 4 half decent performances immediately prior to it
When is his contract up?. Does anyone have an exact date?.
When is his contract up?. Does anyone have an exact date?.
According to wiki he signed a new 4 year deal on 10th Sept 2014
It's possible, but I'd imagine if it was the root cause of his dwindling input, the club would be aware and Gabby's situation would've been handled in a more sensitive way than pretty forthright tweets by Dr Xia.Could a lack of self-respect could be a symptom or consequence of depression? Why not? I am no expert though so please don't bow.Yes it is a symptom.
I honestly thought he was poor on Friday night, to me he has lost his one major asset and that is his paceNo it will not. That will be on the tenth of September 2018 when his contract expires.
I think if Bruce can get another forward in, during the January window, then it will finally be the end of him at the Villa
I honestly thought he was poor on Friday night, to me he has lost his one major asset and that is his paceNo it will not. That will be on the tenth of September 2018 when his contract expires.
I think if Bruce can get another forward in, during the January window, then it will finally be the end of him at the Villa
Unless of course they give him an extension!
I honestly thought he was poor on Friday night, to me he has lost his one major asset and that is his paceNo it will not. That will be on the tenth of September 2018 when his contract expires.
I think if Bruce can get another forward in, during the January window, then it will finally be the end of him at the Villa
Unless of course they give him an extension!
I would imagine that his contract will expire at the end of the 2017-2018 season and to be honest it can't come soon enough and we can all move on!
Gabby seems to have some pace back. Shame he still can't finish when given time to think, I expect he will become vital whilst the African players are away.
He still has pace and once he has fitness he will become an asset. He has a manager that believes in what could provide and has shown faith in him. Gabby appears to be trying to repay that faith. He isn't the player he was and he's got a lot of detractors for obvious reasons. By the end of the season we'll know for sure what he made of himself and whether or not he can write a better chapter to see out his Villa career.
He still has pace and once he has fitness he will become an asset. He has a manager that believes in what could provide and has shown faith in him. Gabby appears to be trying to repay that faith. He isn't the player he was and he's got a lot of detractors for obvious reasons. By the end of the season we'll know for sure what he made of himself and whether or not he can write a better chapter to see out his Villa career.
I notice that he's a strong contender for the Anti-Sports Personality of the Year Award (https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/dec/15/anti-sports-personality-year-awards-2016)
He still has pace and once he has fitness he will become an asset. He has a manager that believes in what could provide and has shown faith in him. Gabby appears to be trying to repay that faith. He isn't the player he was and he's got a lot of detractors for obvious reasons. By the end of the season we'll know for sure what he made of himself and whether or not he can write a better chapter to see out his Villa career.
I know it's easy to have a go at Gabby - but honestly against Norwich his display was possibly as bad as any individual performance by a Villa striker I've ever seen, and I'm including the dreadful Carlton Cole in that. The only thing of note he did was a useful defensive header. One of my mates was still defending him, saying he didn't get any service, which is true enough, but his movement was terrible and he didn't look for the ball, nor win a single header by my reckoning. It was a shocking display, even by his recent standards.
All the talk from Bruce was that Gabby had lost 6kg between him taking charge (Oct 12) and by the Brighton game (Nov 18) illustrating just how determined he had been to get involved.
Now Tuesday night might have been a optical illusion, but he didn't look a whole pile slimmer a month on again.
When you think of the resources available at a professional spots club and the amount they (should) be training, that's a bit shit, really.
I know it's easy to have a go at Gabby - but honestly against Norwich his display was possibly as bad as any individual performance by a Villa striker I've ever seen, and I'm including the dreadful Carlton Cole in that. The only thing of note he did was a useful defensive header. One of my mates was still defending him, saying he didn't get any service, which is true enough, but his movement was terrible and he didn't look for the ball, nor win a single header by my reckoning. It was a shocking display, even by his recent standards.
And don't forget Norwich's goal came from Gabby giving the ball away.
He is truly woeful. I like Bruce but this bizarre experiment of playing Gabby in away games has failed, is never going to work, and is costing us vital points.
Hopefully the game time Bruce is giving him will fool someone towards the bottom of the Premiership to part with some cash for him - January is usually the month for desperation transfers and he if he is seen as the answer to Hull/Sunderland/Swansea/Boro/Palace's problems then happy days!
Lets be perfectly honest here, Gabby is going nowhere, we are stuck with him till the end of his contract!
God help us!
He even turned down a loan move at the beginning of the season to Reading and that was under RDM when he had no hope of playing, so he is hardly likely to want to move now he is Bruce's pet!
Waster or not, Bruce clearly believes he can be effective at this level given his recent involvement.Agree, Gabby is just one of a number of problems a Bruce has to manage.
Personally I think he swung the game our way on Sunday when he came on. McCormack was a waste of space and didn't get near anything in the air. At least Gabby made their defenders work a bit which gave us a stronger foothold in the game further up the pitch. There I've said it ......I notice jwarry this represents your post no 1111, a nelson +1 which is somewhat telling.
Did anyone notice that when he took a throw in that he was stood on the pitch as he took it!
I hardly noticed he was on the pitch apart from the throw in.... waste of space
Waster or not, Bruce clearly believes he can be effective at this level given his recent involvement.
Personally I think he swung the game our way on Sunday when he came on. McCormack was a waste of space and didn't get near anything in the air. At least Gabby made their defenders work a bit which gave us a stronger foothold in the game further up the pitch. There I've said it ......Agreed, held up the ball well when paired with Kodjia. Showed good strength, control and pace. Everything McCormack wasn't showing unfortunately. Even the quick throw in showed a bit of initiative
Personally I think he swung the game our way on Sunday when he came on. McCormack was a waste of space and didn't get near anything in the air. At least Gabby made their defenders work a bit which gave us a stronger foothold in the game further up the pitch. There I've said it ......
There were 10 others who also offered jack shit yesterday. Busted flush he may be, but the team's current shiteness is not down to Gabby alone.
There were 10 others who also offered jack shit yesterday. Busted flush he may be, but the team's current shiteness is not down to Gabby alone.
The other 10 weren't banned from training for being overweight twice, caught smoking a shisha in Dubai during one of those breaks and photographed in a hotel room with hookers on the day we were relegated. They also haven't been paid to play as a striker and score 8 goals in their last 100 appearances for the club. He shouldn't be anywhere near the team, he offers nothing and I honestly don't care if he's putting in the effort in training to lose weight, he was shit long before he got fat and running around a bit is a long way from being enough to change my opinion.
Bruce needs to remove the rose-tinted glasses and stop seeing Gabby circa 2009-10 because that player is never coming back.
Did anyone see Gabby's twitter profile picture change over the weekend?
www.twitter.com/onlymyviewz
I'm pretty sure he doesn't have twitter unless he's recently come onto it?
Someone on the wind up?
That is the point though you don't need to play with centre forwards, Arsenal, Liverpool do it!Didn't Moyes play without central strikers at Everton for a while? Mind you, he did have Tim Cahill to score the goals from midfield, which I can't see our lot doing.
So why doesn't Bruce change the system (do we have one) to suit what players he has available, that is what clever managers are supposed to do, change tactics to suit the occasion.
That is the point though you don't need to play with centre forwards, Arsenal, Liverpool do it!
So why doesn't Bruce change the system (do we have one) to suit what players he has available, that is what clever managers are supposed to do, change tactics to suit the occasion.
That is the point though you don't need to play with centre forwards, Arsenal, Liverpool do it!
So why doesn't Bruce change the system (do we have one) to suit what players he has available, that is what clever managers are supposed to do, change tactics to suit the occasion.
Arsenal and Liverpool have attacking midfielders who can replace the centre forward and play as 'false' forwards. Who out of our midfielders could do that?
When did Villa last have midfielders you could rely on for 7-10 goals per season ?
If you count the Young, Barry Downing Milner seasons, then your talking Prem Top 6 skills ....not the kind of mid Championship awful set-up we have nowadays.
Agbonlahor is the falsest forward I've seen in a while.That is the point though you don't need to play with centre forwards, Arsenal, Liverpool do it!
So why doesn't Bruce change the system (do we have one) to suit what players he has available, that is what clever managers are supposed to do, change tactics to suit the occasion.
Arsenal and Liverpool have attacking midfielders who can replace the centre forward and play as 'false' forwards. Who out of our midfielders could do that?
When are the club arranging Gabby's testimonial?
Sorry N'ZmaV, I was still laughing and hit "mis-spell".
Talking of Gardner having vehicular transport to get up with the forwards......maybe we should petition van Basten to change the rules ?
Or unilaterally declare VP to be an " offside-free zone" in advance, so our larger, slower poachers don't have to run far to have a chance to miss a goal ?
Bumped into him before the Derby game. He reckons it's at least two weeks away before he plays. I must say he was looking quite svelte.Have you recovered, Frank?
Bumped into him before the Derby game. He reckons it's at least two weeks away before he plays but doesn't score. I must say he was looking quite svelte.Fixed. I am OCD about alt.facts.
I had forgot on he actually existed until now.
No issues with gabby. UTV
I won't forgive him for what he did last year. Inexcusable. But he put the work in this season and his attitude was good. He'd still be a decent option off the bench so hopefully he gets himself fit and contributes positively in some capacity until the end of the season.
No issues with gabby. UTV
Boing boing
No issues with gabby. UTV
Boing boing
Please do not accuse people of being, for example, "a bluenose" or "a manyoo fan" because you don't like or agree with what they are saying.
No issues with gabby. UTV
Boing boing
As per site rules we'll have less of that please.QuotePlease do not accuse people of being, for example, "a bluenose" or "a manyoo fan" because you don't like or agree with what they are saying.
No issues with gabby. UTV
Boing boing
As per site rules we'll have less of that please.QuotePlease do not accuse people of being, for example, "a bluenose" or "a manyoo fan" because you don't like or agree with what they are saying.
Only a Utrecht fan would feel the need to point that out.
Wolfsburg wankers, the pair of ya.
No issues with gabby. UTV
No issues with gabby. UTV
Of course you don't.
No issues with gabby. UTV
Boing boing
As I have no issues with an unpopular villa player I have to be a supporter of another club? Not the sharpest in the box are you mate.
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Gabby could be working towards a new contract according to the beeb. Quotes from our esteemed leader. The player's attitude must have changed surely? He had a long way to come back.
Handing out contract extensions to average players because they've just had a good game or two, is one of the reasons we've been shite for years.
Handing out contract extensions to average players because they've just had a good game or two, is one of the reasons we've been shite for years.
Handing out contract extensions to average players because they've just had a good game or two, is one of the reasons we've been shite for years.
Absolutely. Having watched him half-arse it for yrs not sure a new contract is a good idea. Keith Wyness seems to know his way around a football club so I cannot believe any multi-year deal would be offered.
I looked at his appearances. In the last 7 yrs has played 178 league games (inc blues game) out of 272 league games so missed a average of over 13 games a year.
If you take this contract length as now in the 4th year? he has played 98 times out of 158 games so missed an average of 15 league games a year. The last 2 yrs he has missed 51 league games. In the last 4 yrs he has scored 12 times in the league and 2 goals in the last 2 yrs.
Handing out contract extensions to average players because they've just had a good game or two, is one of the reasons we've been shite for years.
Spot on.
Until we learn this, we'll never really improve very much
Handing out contract extensions to average players because they've just had a good game or two, is one of the reasons we've been shite for years.
Spot on.
Until we learn this, we'll never really improve very much
Yep I'd expect to see an extended and sustained period of improved attitude and performance before considering a contract extension.
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Imagine if Gabby can turn up early at BMH every day? Hard working always being rewarded! Well done, lads. Fans are fabulous as always!#UTV
That's one way of looking at it. However, given that for Gabby he may think that next season could be his last season in any type of employment unless he produces performances that lead to promotion. He's never had this real threat previously and even had the owner questioning him last summer. If he is offered a new contract then it means we have been promoted, he has sorted himself out, and the club deem his performances and attitude to be at a level where the owner is willing to be questioned for his past words. Its a long shot and I doubt he has it in him. we shall see.
You may be looking in great shape but what is Gabby looking like?
Dion Dublin has apparently predicted the Gabster could score 2.0-2.5 goals this season (Birmingham mail) I believe
I mean these people are ex professionals and football pundits and they come out with stuff like this
He must have taken up permanent residence on fantasy island
Ze plane ze plane
It's hysterical that we are still playing this useless, part time, wanker. Years after he's ever given a shit.
He's not out of shape. He's not the shape he was when he first started playing for us at 19/20, but he's not out of shape.
We also need to stop pretending he's a major problem, when it comes to where we are as a club. He's not even been on the pitch for many of our most embarrassing performances, and not for 71 minutes of yesterday's, latest, debacle (where the latest, greatest, young kids took to the pitch).
I know it must make it easier for some to pretend a bit-part player like Gabby is holding us back, but the reality is much harsher.
We must have moved on/discarded many dozens of players (scapegoats) since we became really shit under Lerner, and yet here we still are.
We won't move on from it by pretending a player discarded here, and a tweek there, will fix the stinking pile of turd have become. Only one thing will fix that. Stop employing short-term 'quick fix' (if only) managers like Bruce.
What great players is he "getting the nod over"?I agree with this. Gabby was part of the team that took Hull apart when we looked like world beaters in the first half of the first game of season. F**k knows what's happened since that heady 45 mins. All I know is it's not all Gabby's fault.
Also, who played so well yesterday that Gabby shouldn't have come on to replace them, after 71 minutes of utter dross?
The way his name is brought into nearly every thread - sometimes when he is not even playing - over exaggerates his importance to what has been going on for years.
I will have a go at Bruce for plenty, but bringing on Gabby, with limited options and the youngsters doing nothing for 71 minutes, is not one of them.
I don't know, over the last year or so I have felt that the following should have been picked over Gabby at various stages:
- Hogan
- RHM
- McCormack
- Gestede
- Ayew
I have also thought that midfielders could have played over him at various points. My point is more that his years are so long ago he just should not be in contention anymore. I don't even think he should be at the club.
With regards to yesterday, I would not have brought him on. Not because of the players that were on the pitch were performing well, but because I preferred all of the other substitutes. Gabby is yesterday's man. One goal in a year or so should be better evidence of that than anything I write.
I don't know, over the last year or so I have felt that the following should have been picked over Gabby at various stages:
- Hogan
- RHM
- McCormack
- Gestede
- Ayew
I have also thought that midfielders could have played over him at various points. My point is more that his years are so long ago he just should not be in contention anymore. I don't even think he should be at the club.
With regards to yesterday, I would not have brought him on. Not because of the players that were on the pitch were performing well, but because I preferred all of the other substitutes. Gabby is yesterday's man. One goal in a year or so should be better evidence of that than anything I write.
All of your list have been given chances instead of Gabby. Their 'performances' are the reason Gabby is still getting into the match day 18.
The point I am trying to make is that we need to realise where the real problem lies, not pretending it's down to individual players.
Get a decent manager who knows how to use players correctly, who goes out to attack when warranted, and who "does do tactics", then most of these players would benefit - maybe even Gabby.
Ayew was played sparingly? He played in all but 2 games under Bruce that he was here for.
The reason that Agbonlahor is still here while the other players mentioned are not, is that there isn't another club stupid enough to take the fat waster off our hands.
An example should have been made of him and his contract wrote off. Easy to say when it's not my money but if Xia is as wealthy as he claims then it would be a price worth paying to highlight what isn't acceptable.
An example should have been made of him and his contract wrote off. Easy to say when it's not my money but if Xia is as wealthy as he claims then it would be a price worth paying to highlight what isn't acceptable.
He's not out of shape. He's not the shape he was when he first started playing for us at 19/20, but he's not out of shape.
We also need to stop pretending he's a major problem, when it comes to where we are as a club. He's not even been on the pitch for many of our most embarrassing performances, and not for 71 minutes of yesterday's, latest, debacle (where the latest, greatest, young kids took to the pitch).
I know it must make it easier for some to pretend a bit-part player like Gabby is holding us back, but the reality is much harsher.
We must have moved on/discarded many dozens of players (scapegoats) since we became really shit under Lerner, and yet here we still are.
We won't move on from it by pretending a player discarded here, and a tweek there, will fix the stinking pile of turd have become. Only one thing will fix that. Stop employing short-term 'quick fix' (if only) managers like Bruce.
Amen.
Yep. To have any chance of improving we needed to get rid of... Ireland, N'Zog, Westwood etc etc and now Gabby, Richards, Elphick & Hutton and others will follow. Probably Wheelan & Elmo...He's not out of shape. He's not the shape he was when he first started playing for us at 19/20, but he's not out of shape.
We also need to stop pretending he's a major problem, when it comes to where we are as a club. He's not even been on the pitch for many of our most embarrassing performances, and not for 71 minutes of yesterday's, latest, debacle (where the latest, greatest, young kids took to the pitch).
I know it must make it easier for some to pretend a bit-part player like Gabby is holding us back, but the reality is much harsher.
We must have moved on/discarded many dozens of players (scapegoats) since we became really shit under Lerner, and yet here we still are.
We won't move on from it by pretending a player discarded here, and a tweek there, will fix the stinking pile of turd have become. Only one thing will fix that. Stop employing short-term 'quick fix' (if only) managers like Bruce.
Amen.
Double amen. This is as near to common sense as I have read on here for some time.
For me Gabby isn't the cause of the problems, but he's become a problem, much like Richards. We've got 2 guys there on big wages who are being played to fuck about in training..
For me Gabby isn't the cause of the problems, but he's become a problem, much like Richards. We've got 2 guys there on big wages who are being played to fuck about in training..
Richards the Clown I can believe, everything to him is a joke but Gabby?
For me Gabby isn't the cause of the problems, but he's become a problem, much like Richards. We've got 2 guys there on big wages who are being played to fuck about in training and have the odd run out here and there where no one expects anything useful from them.
To be fair, the photographer/CMS bod will tend to prefer photos that project a positive image of unity rather than showing players scowling, smoking, flobbing, having a slash behind the nets or giving fistface 'the wanker's'.For me Gabby isn't the cause of the problems, but he's become a problem, much like Richards. We've got 2 guys there on big wages who are being played to fuck about in training..
Richards the Clown I can believe, everything to him is a joke but Gabby?
I'm just going on the pictures they post from training where Gabby always has a massive grin and looks like he's playing at the park with his mates.
For me Gabby isn't the cause of the problems, but he's become a problem, much like Richards. We've got 2 guys there on big wages who are being played to fuck about in training..
Richards the Clown I can believe, everything to him is a joke but Gabby?
I'm just going on the pictures they post from training where Gabby always has a massive grin and looks like he's playing at the park with his mates.
For me Gabby isn't the cause of the problems, but he's become a problem, much like Richards. We've got 2 guys there on big wages who are being played to fuck about in training..
Richards the Clown I can believe, everything to him is a joke but Gabby?
I'm just going on the pictures they post from training where Gabby always has a massive grin and looks like he's playing at the park with his mates.
Same reaction when he's playing for the first team when the ref. gives a decision against him.
To be fair, the photographer/CMS bod will tend to prefer photos that project a positive image of unity rather than showing players scowling, smoking, flobbing, having a slash behind the nets or giving fistface 'the wanker's'.For me Gabby isn't the cause of the problems, but he's become a problem, much like Richards. We've got 2 guys there on big wages who are being played to fuck about in training..
Richards the Clown I can believe, everything to him is a joke but Gabby?
I'm just going on the pictures they post from training where Gabby always has a massive grin and looks like he's playing at the park with his mates.
Is he ever going to manage a full month without being injured?
For me Gabby isn't the cause of the problems, but he's become a problem, much like Richards. We've got 2 guys there on big wages who are being played to fuck about in training..
Richards the Clown I can believe, everything to him is a joke but Gabby?
I'm just going on the pictures they post from training where Gabby always has a massive grin and looks like he's playing at the park with his mates.
Same reaction when he's playing for the first team when the ref. gives a decision against him.
For me Gabby isn't the cause of the problems, but he's become a problem, much like Richards. We've got 2 guys there on big wages who are being played to fuck about in training..
Richards the Clown I can believe, everything to him is a joke but Gabby?
I'm just going on the pictures they post from training where Gabby always has a massive grin and looks like he's playing at the park with his mates.
Same reaction when he's playing for the first team when the ref. gives a decision against him.
What a terrible trait. A propensity to grin
If ever there was a poster boy for everything I despise about what has happened in the last seven years it is this mugwump.
I don't understand and never will those that still defend him. It defies belief. Let's put it another way. Does anyone seriously think he's earned his £3m per annum salary for the last say to be generous three years?
True I don't know what I was thinking.
Time moves on Rich. He hasn't however. Some people can move on seamlessly from cookies to donuts for example.
Time moves on Rich. He hasn't however. Some people can move on seamlessly from cookies to donuts for example.
Gaffer discusses contract extension for Flabby. (http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-boss-discusses-contract-14013223.amp?__twitter_impression=true)
Please tell me this is some sort of click-baiting extrapolation of some meaningless, noncommittal comments by Bruce! He's not fucking serious is he?
His 3 goals and complete no-show in the last 3 seasons, especially in our relegation year, should convince everybody at Aston Villa to release him, when the opportunity arises. For me, if he's retained, when we've had the opportunity to get rid, then I will be seriously considering what matches I attend in the future irrespective of what league we are in.
Has Bruce not read the Myth of Sisyphus?
Oh dear. To me that says the Bruce has been told the cupboard is bare as far as transfer funds in January are concerned. I can't imagine any other reason why he'd be contemplating trying to resurrect the corpse of Gabby's career.
Oh dear. To me that says the Bruce has been told the cupboard is bare as far as transfer funds in January are concerned. I can't imagine any other reason why he'd be contemplating trying to resurrect the corpse of Gabby's career.
He’s been quite clear it’s loans only
He may as well show gabby a bit of leg. Especially if someone asks him about a new contract.
Ad I've mentioned elsewhere, since the start of 2014 he's scored 11 in 87. Nowhere near enough to warrant a contrct. Free transfer to Walsall.
He can't really say Gabby's rubbish and i'll be glad to get shot of him.
Ad I've mentioned elsewhere, since the start of 2014 he's scored 11 in 87. Nowhere near enough to warrant a contrct. Free transfer to Walsall.
That's not too bad for an ageing winger.
It's the sort of figures our out an out striker, Keinan Davis, would kill for.
If he comes back over Xmas and New Year and shows he's still got something to add (all he needs to do - apparently - is 'hold the ball up'), then give him a one year extension.
Ad I've mentioned elsewhere, since the start of 2014 he's scored 11 in 87. Nowhere near enough to warrant a contrct. Free transfer to Walsall.
That's not too bad for an ageing winger.
It's the sort of figures our out an out striker, Keinan Davis, would kill for.
If he comes back over Xmas and New Year and shows he's still got something to add (all he needs to do - apparently - is 'hold the ball up'), then give him a one year extension.
You are a ridiculous human being.
Ad I've mentioned elsewhere, since the start of 2014 he's scored 11 in 87. Nowhere near enough to warrant a contrct. Free transfer to Walsall.
That's not too bad for an ageing winger.
It's the sort of figures our out an out striker, Keinan Davis, would kill for.
If he comes back over Xmas and New Year and shows he's still got something to add (all he needs to do - apparently - is 'hold the ball up'), then give him a one year extension.
Ad I've mentioned elsewhere, since the start of 2014 he's scored 11 in 87. Nowhere near enough to warrant a contrct. Free transfer to Walsall.
That's not too bad for an ageing winger.
It's the sort of figures our out an out striker, Keinan Davis, would kill for.
If he comes back over Xmas and New Year and shows he's still got something to add (all he needs to do - apparently - is 'hold the ball up'), then give him a one year extension.
Are you seriously comparing a young lad who has just broken into the first team and helped us into a strong position at the top of the table with a lazy, unfit, unprofessional waster who has taken the piss out of the club for years and is happy to sit out his ridiculous contract until it runs down before he sees out his career in the lower leagues? Seriously?
Despite what the haters say whenever he’s played these last couple of injury prone seasons he’s given his all and has contributed. He’s an asset when fit, and I hope he’s back in the squad ASAP.Your wife’s trifle won’t have any sherry in it this Christmas, you’ve clearly drank it all. I disagree with at least four of your assertions and you only wrote two sentences!
A half fit Gabby would have offered more than Davis today.
A half fit Gabby would have offered more than Davis today.
He's only been half fit for the past 5 years
All Gabby apologists should be put against a wall and shot at by the man himself until they die of old age.
Ad I've mentioned elsewhere, since the start of 2014 he's scored 11 in 87. Nowhere near enough to warrant a contrct. Free transfer to Walsall.
That's not too bad for an ageing winger.
It's the sort of figures our out an out striker, Keinan Davis, would kill for.
If he comes back over Xmas and New Year and shows he's still got something to add (all he needs to do - apparently - is 'hold the ball up'), then give him a one year extension.
Are you seriously comparing a young lad who has just broken into the first team and helped us into a strong position at the top of the table with a lazy, unfit, unprofessional waster who has taken the piss out of the club for years and is happy to sit out his ridiculous contract until it runs down before he sees out his career in the lower leagues? Seriously?
No. They're not comparable. But if we're going to;
Gabby has scored dozens of important goals for the club at the very top level, predominantly being played as a winger. Davis (20 years old in 2 months) is struggling to score in the 2nd division as an out-and-out striker and, looking at his performances so far, I doubt he would ever get anywhere close to Gabby's PL goals record, even if he played twice as long.
Sorry I have a different opinion to you. You'll just have to like it lump it, I suppose.
The argument shouldn't be on the merit of Davis vice Agbonlahor. The kid is doing his best. Gabby shat on us from a huge height and anyone who cares to forget it has no shame.
The argument shouldn't be on the merit of Davis vice Agbonlahor. The kid is doing his best. Gabby shat on us from a huge height and anyone who cares to forget it has no shame.
A myth that's been put about on forums, by a minority, that's become 'fact'.
I've seen it develop over the last few years. Everything that went wrong, "Gabby must be behind it/involved." Innuendo and rumour, all 'backed up' by the 'evidence' of Gabby on a bong. Big deal.
Not totally surprising. Ellis had gone and some needed a new 'Antichrist'. It sure wasn't going to be Lerner, not with the fawning over his arrival and him not being Ellis, so the established players took the brunt as everything turned to shit. One by one these players moved on, which leaves Gabby to take the brunt.
Gabby gets his name sung from The Holte by all of us that remember, as recently as last season, the great memories he has given us. Including scoring goals against the very best in the PL, and winning goals at that.
Compare that to Davis "doing his best", with two virtually meaningless goals in games where hammered poor Championship sides.
I hope Davis proves me wrong and becomes a great striker four us, scoring 70+ PL goals, but don't make me laugh by trying to devalue what Gabby has achieved with our club, whilst at the same time 'bigging up' two Championship goals for Davis.
The argument shouldn't be on the merit of Davis vice Agbonlahor. The kid is doing his best. Gabby shat on us from a huge height and anyone who cares to forget it has no shame.
A myth that's been put about on forums, by a minority, that's become 'fact'.
I've seen it develop over the last few years. Everything that went wrong, "Gabby must be behind it/involved." Innuendo and rumour, all 'backed up' by the 'evidence' of Gabby on a bong. Big deal.
Not totally surprising. Ellis had gone and some needed a new 'Antichrist'. It sure wasn't going to be Lerner, not with the fawning over his arrival and him not being Ellis, so the established players took the brunt as everything turned to shit. One by one these players moved on, which leaves Gabby to take the brunt.
Gabby gets his name sung from The Holte by all of us that remember, as recently as last season, the great memories he has given us. Including scoring goals against the very best in the PL, and winning goals at that.
Compare that to Davis "doing his best", with two virtually meaningless goals in games where hammered poor Championship sides.
I hope Davis proves me wrong and becomes a great striker four us, scoring 70+ PL goals, but don't make me laugh by trying to devalue what Gabby has achieved with our club, whilst at the same time 'bigging up' two Championship goals for Davis.
Nobody is devaluing what the fat waster has achieved. However, none of his goals, bursts of speed, late winners at the Sty will help us go up as they only exist in the history books and your wankbank now. So sing his name all you like but remember that he is stealing a wage from us and hasn't performed for years.
The argument shouldn't be on the merit of Davis vice Agbonlahor. The kid is doing his best. Gabby shat on us from a huge height and anyone who cares to forget it has no shame.
A myth that's been put about on forums, by a minority, that's become 'fact'.
I've seen it develop over the last few years. Everything that went wrong, "Gabby must be behind it/involved." Innuendo and rumour, all 'backed up' by the 'evidence' of Gabby on a bong. Big deal.
Not totally surprising. Ellis had gone and some needed a new 'Antichrist'. It sure wasn't going to be Lerner, not with the fawning over his arrival and him not being Ellis, so the established players took the brunt as everything turned to shit. One by one these players moved on, which leaves Gabby to take the brunt.
Gabby gets his name sung from The Holte by all of us that remember, as recently as last season, the great memories he has given us. Including scoring goals against the very best in the PL, and winning goals at that.
Compare that to Davis "doing his best", with two virtually meaningless goals in games where hammered poor Championship sides.
I hope Davis proves me wrong and becomes a great striker four us, scoring 70+ PL goals, but don't make me laugh by trying to devalue what Gabby has achieved with our club, whilst at the same time 'bigging up' two Championship goals for Davis.
What exactly has he achieved with this club?
Even in his most prolific seasons, playing alongside genuinely good players such as Young, Milner, Barry, Carew etc, his goalscoring record was mediocre at best for a striker (this winger nonsense you spout won't become true no matter how often you say it).
The last 5 years of Gabby being overweight, unfit and uninterested are certainly no myth. His attitude was so poor during the relegation season that I'm shocked the club didn't terminate his contract on the grounds of gross misconduct.
The vast majority of his games have been played as a winger or '2nd striker'. Very rarely as the only front man.
If he had been an out and out main striker, taking penalties, he would surely be over 100 league and cup goals by now, instead of the 'only' 86.
Gabby defintely gets better the less he plays.
He's not "stealing a wage from us", you wanker (I get that 'free' after your 'insinuation' earlier).
Gabby defintely gets better the less he plays.
He's not "stealing a wage from us", you wanker (I get that 'free' after your 'insinuation' earlier).
No you don't. Pull anything like that again and you won't be posting here any more.
Gabby defintely gets better the less he plays.
He certainly gets better the less other players get near his 86 career Villa goals.
I've been supporting Villa for over 40 years and, for me, there are only a handful of attacking players that have given me as much enjoyment over an extended period, that Gabby has.
Gabby defintely gets better the less he plays.
Really? If anything it’s the exact opposite from what I can gather from reading this thread.
He's not "stealing a wage from us", you wanker (I get that 'free' after your 'insinuation' earlier).
No you don't. Pull anything like that again and you won't be posting here any more.
Gabby defintely gets better the less he plays.
Really? If anything it’s the exact opposite from what I can gather from reading this thread.
I've seen some folk calling for him to be picked again. I wouldn't have him anywhere near the squad.
Interesting to see lifelong Chelsea fan John Terry, running up, down and around the Holte End much earlier today, doing everything he can to get fit quickly and get back in the side.
You'd think a lifelong Villa fan would be doing even more...
Gabby defintely gets better the less he plays.
He certainly gets better the less other players get near his 86 career Villa goals.
I've been supporting Villa for over 40 years and, for me, there are only a handful of attacking players that have given me as much enjoyment over an extended period, that Gabby has.
Interesting to see lifelong Chelsea fan John Terry, running up, down and around the Holte End much earlier today, doing everything he can to get fit quickly and get back in the side.
You'd think a lifelong Villa fan would be doing even more...
He's not "stealing a wage from us", you wanker (I get that 'free' after your 'insinuation' earlier).
No you don't. Pull anything like that again and you won't be posting here any more.
Have you had a word with Bad English for what he posted? Or is it targeted at me only, which I would see as bullying?
Gabby defintely gets better the less he plays.
Really? If anything it’s the exact opposite from what I can gather from reading this thread.
I've seen some folk calling for him to be picked again. I wouldn't have him anywhere near the squad.
It seems to me that anytime anyone calls for him to be recalled to the squad they’re pounced on by the anti Gabby brigade. We’re all entitled to our opinion.
Gabby defintely gets better the less he plays.
Really? If anything it’s the exact opposite from what I can gather from reading this thread.
I've seen some folk calling for him to be picked again. I wouldn't have him anywhere near the squad.
It seems to me that anytime anyone calls for him to be recalled to the squad they’re pounced on by the anti Gabby brigade. We’re all entitled to our opinion.
It's no different to those against Gabby being 'pounced on' by those still in favour of him.
He's not "stealing a wage from us", you wanker (I get that 'free' after your 'insinuation' earlier).
No you don't. Pull anything like that again and you won't be posting here any more.
Have you had a word with Bad English for what he posted? Or is it targeted at me only, which I would see as bullying?
You're the only one that called someone a wanker, saying memories of Gabby are in your wank bank is childish but hardly the same. So you're the only one being 'targeted' as you're the only one that broke site rules. And you knew you were breaking them hence your "I get that free" nonsense.
Well both you and Villa75 have 'pounced' (in reality it's not pouncing just people disagreeing on a forum as happens on every thread) anti Gabby comments so how is it any different? How is replying "he's shit" to a post in favour any different to replying "he isn't shit" to any post against him? Same thing just opposite sides of the debate.
Anyway. I'm going to take as break, as I feel targeted, and that some people are trying to bully me off the site.
Anyway. I'm going to take as break, as I feel targeted, and that some people are trying to bully me off the site.
He's been responsible for some of the most brilliant Villa moments of the 21st century.
As a striker, he's managed the sum total of 30 league goals in the seven-and-nearly-a-half seasons since MON left, in only one of those netting more than half a dozen.
When we needed a cheerleader, he faded into the chorus.
If I went back in time a decade and told myself that in ten years I'd not give a toss about whether he played for us again, I'd probably tell myself to stop talking bollocks, but that's where I am, and it makes me feel sad.
Does nobody want to be a hero any more?
Despite what the haters say whenever he’s played these last couple of injury prone seasons he’s given his all and has contributed. He’s an asset when fit, and I hope he’s back in the squad ASAP.Your wife’s trifle won’t have any sherry in it this Christmas, you’ve clearly drank it all. I disagree with at least four of your assertions and you only wrote two sentences!
He's been responsible for some of the most brilliant Villa moments of the 21st century.
As a striker, he's managed the sum total of 30 league goals in the seven-and-nearly-a-half seasons since MON left, in only one of those netting more than half a dozen.
When we needed a cheerleader, he faded into the chorus.
If I went back in time a decade and told myself that in ten years I'd not give a toss about whether he played for us again, I'd probably tell myself to stop talking bollocks, but that's where I am, and it makes me feel sad.
Does nobody want to be a hero any more?
Reckon he will retire in the summer, football has been a long way down his list of priorities for years
He's been responsible for some of the most brilliant Villa moments of the 21st century.
As a striker, he's managed the sum total of 30 league goals in the seven-and-nearly-a-half seasons since MON left, in only one of those netting more than half a dozen.
You'd think after this many years even Gabby's most enthusiastic supporter would have given up on him but they say its the hope that kills you. 14 goals in 5 years, 8 years since he scored double figures, fuck knows how long he's been arse for. We've had muscly gabby, lazy gabby, fat gabby, bobybuilder gabby, the only thing they have in common is none of them can get a game. Putting aside the suspect temperament, my own opinion is he's never been the same since that pre-season under i think MON where he came back looking like he was training for a heavyweight boxing match. After that he lost his edge, a lot of pace and he's never been able to shift that extra weight or apparently hone a physique that looks like a footballers since. He's never been a clever footballer or skillfull enough to adapt his game to a different role so i really don't see what he's going to bring to the party presently except block potentially better players.
I'd rather bring McCormack in from the cold to be honest. At least he's done something in the last 5 years
I'd rather bring McCormack in from the cold to be honest. At least he's done something in the last 5 years
I watched a bit of FatMac this morning, he scored another goal. The commentators were saying that although he'd scored seven goals, his overall contribution hadn't been very good. He doesn't look in shape at all.
I cannot fathom why some still fawn over the wastrel. Winning goals against Small Heath are not enough to convey legendary status for me.
The stuff about him being played mostly as a winger is bollocks and I will happily share any number of stories about what an unmitigated c*** to have around he was in the relegation season.
I cannot fathom why some still fawn over the wastrel. Winning goals against Small Heath are not enough to convey legendary status for me.
The stuff about him being played mostly as a winger is bollocks and I will happily share any number of stories about what an unmitigated c*** to have around he was in the relegation season.
I think he has plenty to offer at this level when fit and motivated. He's just suffered quite badly of late with injuries.
Somebody yesterday to work the channels was what we needed instead of the utterly moronic firing it into Davis to recycle the ball time and time again.
Today I listened to the absolute insanity as large chunks of BBC time was given up to the story about "Peppa Pig piling pressure on NHS with 'unrealistic' image of GPs"
Giving Gabby a new contract at VP would eclipse Peppa when it comes to insanity.
Dr Brown Bear does work hard to be fair.
I think he has plenty to offer at this level when fit and motivated. He's just suffered quite badly of late with injuries.
Somebody yesterday to work the channels was what we needed instead of the utterly moronic firing it into Davis to recycle the ball time and time again.
I'd rather bring McCormack in from the cold to be honest. At least he's done something in the last 5 years
I think he has plenty to offer at this level when fit and motivated. He's just suffered quite badly of late with injuries.
Somebody yesterday to work the channels was what we needed instead of the utterly moronic firing it into Davis to recycle the ball time and time again.
Absolute nonsense re Gabby. When 'fit and motivated' is laughable. When has he been either since about 2011
I was told some years back, that when the scouts watched him and his brother, the brother was by far the better footballer, but Gabby was a "Usain Bolt type, who could be taught how to play football". Unfortunately, you cannot teach a plank of wood to become a useful item of furniture. A familiar failing of our scouting system by the sound of it.
I was told some years back, that when the scouts watched him and his brother, the brother was by far the better footballer, but Gabby was a "Usain Bolt type, who could be taught how to play football". Unfortunately, you cannot teach a plank of wood to become a useful item of furniture. A familiar failing of our scouting system by the sound of it.
He’s scored than 80 goals for the Villa. Not bad for a plank of wood.
I don't think we can afford to turn our noses up at him right now. If he plays he plays. I hope he does well.
I was told some years back, that when the scouts watched him and his brother, the brother was by far the better footballer, but Gabby was a "Usain Bolt type, who could be taught how to play football". Unfortunately, you cannot teach a plank of wood to become a useful item of furniture. A familiar failing of our scouting system by the sound of it.
He’s scored than 80 goals for the Villa. Not bad for a plank of wood.
Absolutely. He's not entirely been a disaster - he just gave up six years ago, so how he's lasted this long at the club is a complete mystery.
I was told some years back, that when the scouts watched him and his brother, the brother was by far the better footballer, but Gabby was a "Usain Bolt type, who could be taught how to play football". Unfortunately, you cannot teach a plank of wood to become a useful item of furniture. A familiar failing of our scouting system by the sound of it.
He’s scored than 80 goals for the Villa. Not bad for a plank of wood.
Gabby Agbonlahor will not be fit for Aston Villa's trip to Brentford on Boxing Day.
The striker has suffered another injury setback and will be sidelined for the clash at Griffin Park.
Outside of the personal stuff which has discussed at length, what has happened to him as a footballer was somewhat inevitable. Once he lost his blinding pace, be it through injuries or lack of professionalism he was always going to come unstuck as a footballer. He wasn’t a bad footballer but his paces masked areas that he should have worked on. He took his career for granted and it should have been far richer both domestically and internationally.
He needs to go. By the end of January.
He needs to go. By the end of January.
Don't bet on the fact he won't get another renewal.
The absolute poster boy of our decline of recent years.Exactly, and he doesnt give a fuck, he's got the cars, houses, and millions in bank account.Football is just something that gets in the way now to him.Arsehole get rid asap.
He's an embarrassment.
Don't bet on the fact he won't get another renewal.
It wouldn't surprise me.
Whether Bruce is still in charge or we have a new manager, they will still believe that they can get a tune out of the twat.
Same goes for the likes of Richards.
Christ...what a basket case of a club we have become over the last 5 years or so.
Soon as Bruce said Gabby can bring something to the partyHis McDonald’s loyalty card?
According to his Instagram account he's using all his free time to launch a clothing brand presumably for fat lazy scroungers.He thinks people want to dress like he does?
According to his Instagram account he's using all his free time to launch a clothing brand presumably for fat lazy scroungers.He thinks people want to dress like he does?
I won’t be investing.
He won't get a renewal.
Xia was happy with RDM for freezing him out and wasn't hugely enthused by SB's decision to bring him back into the fold but decided to go with it as he was new into the job.
Any suggestion to extend his contract (on what grounds?) would be overruled I'd safely say.
I suspect his signature apparel will be loafers.Slacks.
I suspect his signature apparel will be loafers.Slacks.
who is Gabby?
Can someone who's more computer savvy please post a picture of Gabby Hayes here please.(https://www.famousbirthdays.com/headshots/gabby-hayes-4.jpg)
Can someone who's more computer savvy please post a picture of Gabby Hayes here please.
If Gabby is on the bench Sunday, he should warm up periodically on the Doug Ellis side of the pitch, just to wind the scum up!
It’s just funny having the wind up.
Could we not have him as a steward for the away fans?
I am going to have such a party when I read the article "Agbonlahor told 'new contract my arse' by Aston Villa". Early April would be nice, to coincide with my birthday.
I’d have him on the bench, if not the starting XI. Just for the craic, football isn’t so much fun anymore, it would be again he if scored against that lot. Again. From his semi retirement.
I’d have him on the bench, if not the starting XI. Just for the craic, football isn’t so much fun anymore, it would be again he if scored against that lot. Again. From his semi retirement.
No ta
I’d have him on the bench, if not the starting XI. Just for the craic, football isn’t so much fun anymore, it would be again he if scored against that lot. Again. From his semi retirement.
No ta
Yes ta
I’d have him on the bench, if not the starting XI. Just for the craic, football isn’t so much fun anymore, it would be again he if scored against that lot. Again. From his semi retirement.No taI’d have him on the bench, if not the starting XI. Just for the craic, football isn’t so much fun anymore, it would be again he if scored against that lot. Again. From his semi retirement.
No ta
Yes ta
Yes ta
He didn't trouble the team sheet and we funeralled SHA with ease. Au revoir Flabby !
For £40K a week i'll celebrate any goals small heath score. Standing up once a month would be a hard life.
Good fucking riddance! Hate the player. Like a leech sucked on the blood of the club, his very face is a reminder of the bad times of the club and doing nothing about it. Could have been a legend, now won't be so much as a footnote, just another twat we paid handsomely for doing fuck all.
Good fucking riddance! Hate the player. Like a leech sucked on the blood of the club, his very face is a reminder of the bad times of the club and doing nothing about it. Could have been a legend, now won't be so much as a footnote, just another twat we paid handsomely for doing fuck all.
This.
What annoys me is when someone says "he's been poor for a couple of seasons". No, he's been a lazy fuck for six seasons at least. Unfit and unavailable and robbing a wage from the club. He's a reminder of the culture that has put us where we are.
Good. Fucking. Riddance.
Like an aunt or uncle who’s overstayed their welcome at Christmas, it’s now mid January they’re still here and you just want them to fuck off.
Like an aunt or uncle who’s overstayed their welcome at Christmas, it’s now mid January they’re still here and you just want them to fuck off.
More like late August of the following year than mid January.
Que the hysteria when Jack goes for a song when we haven't tied him down to a long contract
Gabby Agbonlahor WILL leave Aston Villa this summer as Steve Bruce calls time on a 17-year Villa Park career.
Erdington-born Agbonlahor grew up supporting Villa and climbed through the ranks at Bodymoor Heath to make his debut under David O’Leary in 2006.
His goal in a 4-1 defeat to Everton would prove to be the platform for a spree which resulted in him becoming Villa’s all-time Premier League top goalscorer with 73 strikes.
Agbonlahor’s best Villa Park spell came under Martin O’Neill and the striker earned England recognition in 2008.
ut in recent years Agbonlahor’s reputation has been tarnished somewhat. Poor form and behaviour during the 2015/16 season which ended in relegation has seen many Villa fans turn their backs on Agbonlahor.
Roberto Di Matteo tried to freeze him out but Agbonlahor rejected the advances of other clubs and stuck around before Bruce arrived and handed him a lifeline.
Agbonlahor’s winner against Birmingham City last year sent Villa Park into delirium and his record in the Second City derbies will undoubtedly be what he’s remembered most fondly for.
Five goals in nine appearances against the old enemy is no mean feat and Bruce, who has taken the decision to get rid of the 31-year-old, hopes fans look past the discrepancies and latch on to the good times.
“I think it’s time,” Bruce said of Agbonlahor’s contract situation. “I had a conversation with him about six weeks ago. I think it’s time for Gabby to move on.
“I have to say that in the last month or so he’s trained like a beast. I think the time is probably right. The question for Gabby is: what’s he going to do next? He’s probably been institutionalised by the club, he’s been a wonderful servant.
“Yes, he’s had a few down moments but he’s had a lot of ups. If you look at the first 10 years of his career here he’s a young lad playing up front for England, playing week in week out in the big league, he’s been a good player that’s for sure.
“I wish him the best of luck. He’s been very, very good for me here. It’s a shame he’s picked up two bad injuries which has set him back.”
Agbonlahor hasn’t pulled on Villa’s jersey since December and has seen his final season with the club blown apart by injury.
Despite picking the striker just six times this term, Bruce has refused to rule out selecting Agbonlahor in the final weeks of the campaign as Villa look to seal promotion.
Agbonlahor could yet have the perfect swansong as the curtain draws on an eventful Villa career.
“He still might have a part to play yet, I haven’t dismissed that,” Bruce explained. “He’s trained very well for the last three or four weeks. I think he’s got his head around it, that it’s time for a fresh challenge.
“He’ll go with everybody’s blessings here. It’s maybe not gone so well for him over the last couple of years but he’s been a very good player for Villa.
“He’s Villa through and through and we shouldn’t forget that.”
Knowing our luck the new manager will re-sign him after we've released him, like Lambert and Guzan.
The rapid rise and feeble fall of Gabby Agbonlahor at Aston Villa - the full story
Football editor Mat Kendrick examines the AVFC striker's claret and blue career - and asks 'Where did it all go wrong?'
Gabby Agbonlahor will leave Aston Villa this summer.
The 31-year-old striker's latest contract expires in June and will not be renewed, bringing to an end a 17-year association with the club, 12 of which have been around the first team scene.
At the time of writing he has made 340 starts for Villa and 51 substitute appearances for Villa, scoring 87 goals.
Even Agbonlahor's biggest fans will admit that his career has been in decline for some time, but where did it all go wrong for the boyhood Villa fan?
Football editor Mat Kendrick asks and attempts to answer that question with a detailed look back on the Brummie forward's time at B6.
Agbonlahor was in his pomp for a four-year spell between 2006 and 2010.
Gabriel Imuetinyan Agbonlahor first made a name for himself by scoring as a substitute in a 4-1 debut defeat at Everton in March 2006. He had spent the first months of that season on loan at Watford and Sheffield Wednesday.
David O'Leary used him as a bit part player towards the end of the campaign, but it was under Martin O'Neill that he really started to flourish, first in an attacking three with Juan Pablo Angel and Luke Moore and then as part of an offensive triumvirate with Ashley Young and John Carew.
He scored 10 goals in 2006-07, 11 in 2007-08, 12 in 2008-09 and a career best 16 in 2009-10.
Agbonlahor's form back then was so exciting that he was called up for the England senior squad, winning the first of his three caps in November 2008 against Germany, while Arsenal and Manchester United were among the clubs keeping tabs on his meteoric rise.
The goal at Old Trafford, a near post header from Young's left wing cross will live long in the memory. It will have to.
It clinched Villa's first win on Manchester United territory for a generation in December 2009 - and who knows when the next one will arrive?
Then there was the perfect hat-trick on the opening day against Manchester City in August 2008, left foot, right foot, header as Villa won 4-2 against Micah Richards and Co.
It also prompted a story that has done the rounds of the Villa Park pressbox ever since.
Down in the mixed zone in the Trinity Road stand after the match, this exchange between a reporter and Agbonlahor happened - or so the story goes...
"Gabby, you must be euphoric?
"Nah, I'm English."
Truth or urban myth, it still makes me chuckle!
Continuing the theme of big goals he also netted in a famous win over Arsenal at the Emirates in November 2008 and scored against Jose Mourinho’s Chelsea in a Villa Park victory as well as being on target at Anfield and Stamford Bridge.
Then, of course, there were his goals against Birmingham City.
Agbonlahor was the scourge of St Andrew's with the last gasp winner in November 2007, rising in front of Liam Ridgewell to head in Young's cross after Ridgewell's own goal was cancelled out by Mikael Forrsell.
In September 2009 he was at it again, nodding in another Young delivery, helped on by Carew, to score the only goal of the game on 85 minutes.
Agbonlahor tended to be fired up by Bluenoses changing his terrace anthem to include derogatory words about his mother and he dedicated his goals to the Villa fans who supported him.
“They were the most important - the Blues games - because the buzz you can from those goals is more than any other goal really," beamed Agbonlahor.
"Each time I can remember the celebrations with the Villa fans and those memories will live with me forever.”
He also completed the scoring in the 5-1 rout at Villa Park in April 2008 and scored in a Carling Cup quarter final defeat at Blues.
He wasn't finished there, stepping off the bench to fire in the winner in front of the Holte End in Villa's 1-0 Championship victory over their neighbours in April 2016.
It wasn't just against Blues, Agbonlahor had a decent knack of finding the net against West Brom and Wolves too.
Agbonlahor's demise coincided with O'Neill's departure in August 2010.
It's no secret that Agbonlahor and O'Neill's successor Gerard Houllier didn't get on.
Agbonlahor didn't take kindly to Houllier's headmasterly ways, while the experienced Frenchman was not over-enamoured with the striker's attitude.
Around this time Agbonlahor was bulking up. Houllier occasionally mispronounced his name as 'Abdominor', which sounded more like a piece of gym apparatus!
It was his time in the gym that seemed to hinder him.
He had developed a reputation as a wiry whippet whose speed scared the life out of defenders. Indeed he and fellow pace ace Young enjoyed success as the fleet-of-feet foils to towering targetman Carew.
However, Agbonlahor fancied himself as a big, strong centre forward himself, only for the extra muscle to come at the cost of that blistering pace.
Make no mistake, he was still rapid, but not quite the same threat to his markers.
Having said that, even during a poor patch Houllier, he still grabbed what proved to be the goal that put Villa safe in a 2-1 win at West Ham in April 2011.
I remember him collaring me on a pre-season tour to Hong Kong in 2011 to moan about me always giving him 6/10 in my player ratings. Six? They truly were heady days!
Agbonlahor's impact was limited under Alex McLeish as Villa stayed up by the skin of their teeth in 2011-12.
But McLeish did hand him the captaincy towards the end of the season following the bombshell news Stiliyan Petrov had been diagnosed with acute leukaemia.
Agbonlahor fleetingly burst back into action during another narrow escape in Paul Lambert's first campaign of 2012-13, scoring 12 league and cup goals.
Playing off a big man, Christian Benteke, rather than trying to be the big man, appeared to help as he and Andi Weimann complemented the Belgian battering ram.
The following season was fairly average. He scored four goals, with efforts in wins at Southampton and Sunderland his main highlights.
In 2014-15, a winner at Anfield and a goal against Hull early on pointed to an upturn in fortunes for Agbonlahor and Villa.
But that didn't happen until Tim Sherwood replaced Lambert in February 2015, giving the club and its longest serving player a short, sharp shock.
A goal in the league win over West Bromwich Albion and a brace at Sunderland were important moments in the Sherwood survival revival.
Alas, it was not to last. Agbonlahor going missing in Villa's time of need is the biggest stick Gabby bashers have to beat him with.
Agbonlahor has never been backwards in coming forwards when it comes to pledging his allegiance to AVFC, but it had a hollow ring to it during Villa's relegation season.
Villa needed leaders rather than shirkers during that grim 2015-16 fall from grace. Sadly Agbonlahor did not stand up to be counted.
He was more likely to be found partying on the front pages than troubling the back pages for any footballing reasons, including on the evening his boyhood club's demotion was confirmed.
Agbonlahor and Remi Garde took an instant dislike to each other - possibly carried over from the player's time under Garde's mentor Houllier - and their strained relationship was another depressing subplot to the main event of relegation.
Having banished Agbonlahor, Garde found himself having to recall him following the board's failure to bring in reinforcements in January.
That loss of face did for Garde. Agbonlahor did score in a 2-0 win over Norwich City, but it was too little too late for him or his manager.
Later that season he was put on a personal fitness plan by caretaker boss Eric Black because of his poor shape, while he resigned the captaincy and was fined following his off-field misdemeanours.
Villa's relegation did at least aid Agbonlahor's chances of retaining a record and I've got this (admittedly pessimistic) theory he is going to be Villa's Premier League top goalscorer for evermore.
I can't see a striker for Villa ever beating his 74 Premier League goals.
First of all Villa have got to get back in the Premier League and when they do get back in the Premier League a striker's got to score 20 goals a season over three or four or five seasons to get there.
Knowing Villa's place in the food chain at the moment if a striker scores 20 goals in one season, chances are he wont be at Villa any more.
Otherwise you're relying on somebody to do it the Gabby way and be there for 10, 11 or 12 years and score six or seven goals a year.
Unless you've got a goalscoring midfielder who does it that way, I'm not sure a striker would be given the same kind of grace to score goals so infrequently and still be there 10 years later.
When he does leave this summer, boasting the record of this great club's top Premier League goalscorer is not a bad distinction to have.
So, where were we?
Oh yes. Bombed out quickly by Roberto Di Matteo and with new owner Tony Xia questioning his future, Agbonlahor rejected the chance to go to Reading on loan on the August 2016 deadline day.
He backed himself to outlive another manager at Bodymoor Heath and so it proved as RDM got the boot and Steve Bruce was appointed.
Bruce knew all about the Agbonlahor of old having been on the receiving end of the derby destroyer when he was at Blues and the new boss backed himself to rediscover Gabby's best form.
An energetic cameo against the old enemy in a November 2016 draw at St Andrew's was his way back into action and it persuaded Bruce to not only include him in future squads but to occasionally start him.
While his attitude had improved his body started to creak. An injury ruled him out from late January to mid-April, when, with a delicious sense of timing, he made another comeback against you-know-who.
He energised Villa Park that day, stepping off the bench to lift a dour derby and add his match-winning signature to a familiar script.
This season started with a moment of promise - his annual goal in the 1-0 draw with Hull City - and the claret and blue faithful wondered if maybe, just maybe entering the last year of his contract would kickstart a consistent contribution.
'No' was the answer.
After a couple of so-so early season performances he went missing, getting injured again and falling so far down the pecking order that even Ross McCormack had to glance down to find him.
The telling moment was when a member of Bruce's backroom team handed in the teamsheet for Birmingham's April visit to Villa Park - and Agbonlahor's name was not on it.
Agbonlahor's failure to get himself fit for his favourite match and Bruce's faith in the players who had been doing it week in and week out was an act as final as today's confirmation of his departure.
The manager can be a superstitious bloke, but turning to dependable, quality players to convincingly beat Blues rather than trying to rely on a fast-fading lucky omen said it all about Agbonlahor's expiry date.
At the top of this piece we asked 'where it all went wrong for Agbonlahor'.
It's a bit like that famous George Best story when the bellboy delivering champagne to the Manchester United legend's hotel room finds him entertaining a scantily-clad Miss World on a bed covered with his winnings from the casino and asks 'So George, where did it all go wrong?'.
It hasn't gone too wrong for Agbonlahor has it?
Even since Villa were relegated from the Premier League he as still picked up £25,000 per week (a 50 per cent cut on his top flight wages) which it was pointed out this week means he has effectively earned £1.3m per Championship goal (2 - versus Blues and Hull).
Some fans have suggested his loyalty and long service. On the evidence of that goal per pound ratio, he's spent the last few years having one!
Agbonlahor is in the process of launching a clothing line, Six Figures Official, and has been busily promoting the brand on social media for a year or so.
It would be remiss to discuss Agbonlahor's time at Villa without saluting his ambassadorial role with Acorns Children's Hospice and particularly the close friendship he has formed with brave claret and blue fanatic Moin Younis - I'm sure that charity work will continue.
As for his football, the best guess seems to be Major League Soccer.
He likes to holiday in the United States, so a staycation could offer him the best chance of continuing his career.
So what is his legacy? Well, he continues to split opinion among the Villa Park masses.
Some reckon his past heroics, occasional derby goals and VTID proclamations of love for Villa on Instagram are enough to earn him legend status, others think that it is all a badge-kissing cover up for a player who has long since lost his hunger for the club.
I don't think it is as simple as love or hate.
I think it is possible to respect what he was yet still resent what he became.
Agbonlahor rose to the challenge when he played alongside better players as Villa were pushing for the Champions League, but shrunk to the sidelines alongside lesser players as Villa crashed into the Championship.
Had his career trajectory happened in reverse, everybody would rightfully be lauding a lad who triumphed in the face of adversity, rather than ruing a tale of a lad who got too much too soon, and swapped competitiveness for complacency.
Thanks for the gifts of the Gab - it was fun while it lasted. Good luck in whatever you do next.
how anyone can squander the opportunity to play for a club they supposedly love is beyond me.
how anyone can squander the opportunity to play for a club they supposedly love is beyond me.
Ask Mr Collymore.
how anyone can squander the opportunity to play for a club they supposedly love is beyond me.
Ask Mr Collymore.
Mental illness isn't the same as being fat and lazy.
as the club mascot?
He'll only deliver if he gets the service, something we've fail to give him for years. If he can avoid injuries I think he can still do the business for a decent team in the Championship. A change of scene will probably do him good.Yep; can't say I massively dislike the fella.
Still, if you want to hate him help yourselves. I'll save mine for the likes of Hodge, N'Zogbia and Micah The Clown.
He'll only deliver if he gets the service, something we've fail to give him for years. If he can avoid injuries I think he can still do the business for a decent team in the Championship. A change of scene will probably do him good.I don't hate him but he is now firmly esconced in the hall of infamy not far below the levels of those you mention.
Still, if you want to hate him help yourselves. I'll save mine for the likes of Hodge, N'Zogbia and Micah The Clown.
As the Millwall game has nothing riding on it, would you give Gabby one last game? Assuming his fat ass is fit enough to actually try and earn his wages for once that is.
As the Millwall game has nothing riding on it, would you give Gabby one last game? Assuming his fat ass is fit enough to actually try and earn his wages for once that is.
Your Goal at Old Trafford Will always be my favourite.
Your Goal at Old Trafford Will always be my favourite.
I don't recall PWS playing at Old Trafford.
As the Millwall game has nothing riding on it, would you give Gabby one last game? Assuming his fat ass is fit enough to actually try and earn his wages for once that is.
As the Millwall game has nothing riding on it, would you give Gabby one last game? Assuming his fat ass is fit enough to actually try and earn his wages for once that is.
As the Millwall game has nothing riding on it, would you give Gabby one last game? Assuming his fat ass is fit enough to actually try and earn his wages for once that is.
Absolutely not. We've got play offs to prepare for. If we're going to rest people, get some of the youngsters in like RHM and O'Hare.
Apparently in the same way Ollie did a shirt for everyone who went to West Ham, Gabby is doing something. To remind us of him everyone gets 10 pies.And handing a “balloon” to everyone.
I think given his tenure at the club, the goals he has scored in derbies bit more significantly the goals he scored during those years under MON make him a legend whether you like it or not.Take away his goals against blues & a more fitting word would be rubbish .
I think given his tenure at the club, the goals he has scored in derbies bit more significantly the goals he scored during those years under MON make him a legend whether you like it or not.Take away his goals against blues & a more fitting word would be rubbish .
Rubbish but he once had the ability to run fast.
I think given his tenure at the club, the goals he has scored in derbies bit more significantly the goals he scored during those years under MON make him a legend whether you like it or not.Take away his goals against blues & a more fitting word would be rubbish .
Rubbish but he once had the ability to run fast.
By all accounts, when the scouts saw him and his brother, they all agreed that his brother was the more skilful, intelligent footballer but cos he was faster they went for him. Oh for a time machine eh?
Man City home the perfect hat-trick, great times.
I think given his tenure at the club, the goals he has scored in derbies bit more significantly the goals he scored during those years under MON make him a legend whether you like it or not.Take away his goals against blues & a more fitting word would be rubbish .
Rubbish but he once had the ability to run fast.
Only the likes of Paul Birch, Sid Cowans , Ian Taylor are worthy of legend status & there isn't a single player worthy of that in the last ten yrs
I think given his tenure at the club, the goals he has scored in derbies bit more significantly the goals he scored during those years under MON make him a legend whether you like it or not.Take away his goals against blues & a more fitting word would be rubbish .
Rubbish but he once had the ability to run fast.
Only the likes of Paul Birch, Sid Cowans , Ian Taylor are worthy of legend status & there isn't a single player worthy of that in the last ten yrs
Oh what bollocks. Love him or loath him you can’t take away his goals in local derbys or even the winners at Old Trafford and Arsenal etc.
In a large demographic group of fans he remains a legend.
Gabby being a legend is subjective.
So he's a legend in some peoples eyes and can't be changed.
Well said mate.Gabby being a legend is subjective.
So he's a legend in some peoples eyes and can't be changed.
It's difficult to understand why I even need to provide an argument for why he doesn't attain legendary status but I shall. Firstly, even in his prime, his limited abilities wouldn't have merited him lacing the boots of previous Villa legends. He won flip all with us. Whatever meagre kudos he had has been utterly evaporated season after season through the abuse of his lucrative contracts. What would have been ambivalence towards him has turned contemptuous only as a reflex to his total contempt for Aston Villa. Only a junior Villain who has had the misfortune to miss out on real Villa legends could even consider him close to a legendary status.
That's a lot of words for someone quite ambivalent about him.Too true Knobs.
Fact is he will remain a legend to those fans who travelled all over watching Gabby during those prominent years.
Those facts don't change.
That's a lot of words for someone quite ambivalent about him.
Fact is he will remain a legend to those fans who travelled all over watching Gabby during those prominent years.
Those facts don't change.
I genuinely don't know why some of you a rising to this shit. All that's been said about Gabby Agbonlahor has been said. Close the thread and move on. He's clearly on a wind up.
He was doing the same tedious routine last time which got him banned, just ignore him he'll get himself banned again soon. Or I may just ban him again anyway.
He was doing the same tedious routine last time which got him banned, just ignore him he'll get himself banned again soon. Or I may just ban him again anyway.
Once you've spoken to your gaffer you can.
Pretty short leaving speech.He was doing the same tedious routine last time which got him banned, just ignore him he'll get himself banned again soon. Or I may just ban him again anyway.
Once you've spoken to your gaffer you can.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ULt0WyXabvU
A true legend.
Mongtards! Fucking love it. My word of the week. Cheers Tayls.Are you being serious ? Personally I find the term distasteful
Mongtards! Fucking love it. My word of the week. Cheers Tayls.Are you being serious ? Personally I find the term distasteful
Gabby being a legend is subjective.
So he's a legend in some peoples eyes and can't be changed.
It's difficult to understand why I even need to provide an argument for why he doesn't attain legendary status but I shall. Firstly, even in his prime, his limited abilities wouldn't have merited him lacing the boots of previous Villa legends. He won flip all with us. Whatever meagre kudos he had has been utterly evaporated season after season through the abuse of his lucrative contracts. What would have been ambivalence towards him has turned contemptuous only as a reflex to his total contempt for Aston Villa. Only a junior Villain who has had the misfortune to miss out on real Villa legends could even consider him close to a legendary status.
Pretty much this for me.
After all the fall-out in the papers the last 2 days, I reckon he's nailed on for Stoke. There's players there who are stealing a living with half-hearted attempts at going missing and playing crap. Time for Gabby to show them how its done properly.
Ads spot on here, really takes too much effort to be bitter about not liking him when Gabby as brought such monumental memories against the unwashed.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ULt0WyXabvU
A true legend.
If it hadn't been so serious, it would have been funny. Especially the comment about two of them being kick-offs.
when I started going off Gabby was when he started to miss those one on ones and just chuckle to himself after he missed them , thats when he knew he was on an easy ride here .
At last it has come to the end.
Mongtards! Fucking love it. My word of the week. Cheers Tayls.Are you being serious ? Personally I find the term distasteful
Me too.
Mongtards! Fucking love it. My word of the week. Cheers Tayls.Are you being serious ? Personally I find the term distasteful
Me too.
Yes, it's not great is it? My word of the week would be 'Grandiloquent' by the way. Not sure why that came into my head.
He was doing the same tedious routine last time which got him banned, just ignore him he'll get himself banned again soon. Or I may just ban him again anyway.
Once you've spoken to your gaffer you can.
Bye.
Mongtards! Fucking love it. My word of the week. Cheers Tayls.Are you being serious ? Personally I find the term distasteful
Me too.
Yes, it's not great is it? My word of the week would be 'Grandiloquent' by the way. Not sure why that came into my head.
Mongtards! Fucking love it. My word of the week. Cheers Tayls.Are you being serious ? Personally I find the term distasteful
Me too.
Yes, it's not great is it? My word of the week would be 'Grandiloquent' by the way. Not sure why that came into my head.
Ok, my apologies. No harm intended and I take it back.
Thanks Newby - that's much appreciated - cheers buddy - regards VCTMMongtards! Fucking love it. My word of the week. Cheers Tayls.Are you being serious ? Personally I find the term distasteful
Me too.
Yes, it's not great is it? My word of the week would be 'Grandiloquent' by the way. Not sure why that came into my head.
Ok, my apologies. No harm intended and I take it back.
Re the bit in bold, was that his problem or that of the manager / coaches advising him?when I started going off Gabby was when he started to miss those one on ones and just chuckle to himself after he missed them , thats when he knew he was on an easy ride here .
At last it has come to the end.
I agree on this. I don't mind strikers missing chances, but I want them to be annoyed about it and I want to see evidence that they're trying to do something about it, for Gabby the only thing you ever saw that he'd worked on was adding bulk (and losing pace) to try to a be a target man, which was stupid.
Not understanding his role in the squad, his strengths and weaknesses and not giving a shit about addressing the latter is why he's not a club legend.
Re the bit in bold, was that his problem or that of the manager / coaches advising him?when I started going off Gabby was when he started to miss those one on ones and just chuckle to himself after he missed them , thats when he knew he was on an easy ride here .
At last it has come to the end.
I agree on this. I don't mind strikers missing chances, but I want them to be annoyed about it and I want to see evidence that they're trying to do something about it, for Gabby the only thing you ever saw that he'd worked on was adding bulk (and losing pace) to try to a be a target man, which was stupid.
Not understanding his role in the squad, his strengths and weaknesses and not giving a shit about addressing the latter is why he's not a club legend.
Gabby has been an arse over the last few years, but I wonder how much has been poorly advised / manipulated by those who should know better.
Re the bit in bold, was that his problem or that of the manager / coaches advising him?when I started going off Gabby was when he started to miss those one on ones and just chuckle to himself after he missed them , thats when he knew he was on an easy ride here .
At last it has come to the end.
I agree on this. I don't mind strikers missing chances, but I want them to be annoyed about it and I want to see evidence that they're trying to do something about it, for Gabby the only thing you ever saw that he'd worked on was adding bulk (and losing pace) to try to a be a target man, which was stupid.
Not understanding his role in the squad, his strengths and weaknesses and not giving a shit about addressing the latter is why he's not a club legend.
Gabby has been an arse over the last few years, but I wonder how much has been poorly advised / manipulated by those who should know better.
Maybe my memory is playing tricks but i seem to remember MON was non-too pleased with him coming back one summer looking like he was planning to unify the middleweight boxing championship. He obviously got a bee in his bonnet about bulking up and not being the sharpest knife in the drawer didn't realise it would effect his mobility.
Re the bit in bold, was that his problem or that of the manager / coaches advising him?when I started going off Gabby was when he started to miss those one on ones and just chuckle to himself after he missed them , thats when he knew he was on an easy ride here .
At last it has come to the end.
I agree on this. I don't mind strikers missing chances, but I want them to be annoyed about it and I want to see evidence that they're trying to do something about it, for Gabby the only thing you ever saw that he'd worked on was adding bulk (and losing pace) to try to a be a target man, which was stupid.
Not understanding his role in the squad, his strengths and weaknesses and not giving a shit about addressing the latter is why he's not a club legend.
Gabby has been an arse over the last few years, but I wonder how much has been poorly advised / manipulated by those who should know better.
Maybe my memory is playing tricks but i seem to remember MON was non-too pleased with him coming back one summer looking like he was planning to unify the middleweight boxing championship. He obviously got a bee in his bonnet about bulking up and not being the sharpest knife in the drawer didn't realise it would effect his mobility.
It was Houllier that had the issue with it.
Re the bit in bold, was that his problem or that of the manager / coaches advising him?when I started going off Gabby was when he started to miss those one on ones and just chuckle to himself after he missed them , thats when he knew he was on an easy ride here .
At last it has come to the end.
I agree on this. I don't mind strikers missing chances, but I want them to be annoyed about it and I want to see evidence that they're trying to do something about it, for Gabby the only thing you ever saw that he'd worked on was adding bulk (and losing pace) to try to a be a target man, which was stupid.
Not understanding his role in the squad, his strengths and weaknesses and not giving a shit about addressing the latter is why he's not a club legend.
Gabby has been an arse over the last few years, but I wonder how much has been poorly advised / manipulated by those who should know better.
I think TBAR are on a recruitment drive. Previous posters turn up here to shit-stir, and they're firing out update emails again.
I think TBAR are on a recruitment drive. Previous posters turn up here to shit-stir, and they're firing out update emails again.Who's that then?
I think TBAR are on a recruitment drive. Previous posters turn up here to shit-stir, and they're firing out update emails again.
Is that still going?
I'm banned from it anyway I think.
I think TBAR are on a recruitment drive. Previous posters turn up here to shit-stir, and they're firing out update emails again.
Is that still going?
I'm banned from it anyway I think.
It still exists, I think saying it's still going is stretching it.
From instagram
ga11official At school I had my doubters but I always said I would become a professional footballer. Thank you Aston Villa for making my dream become true!!! 17 years 391 games 87 goals for the team I’ve supported all my life is something I would never of dreamt of!! Thank you to the fans who have supported me all my career you have made me feel proud to put a villa shirt on! And also to the staff and players I have had the privilege to work with I will miss you all💔😥. I look forward to watching the great young talent we have at the club and watching this special club get back to the where it belongs! The pleasure has been all mine Aston Villa 💜💜💜
From instagram
ga11official At school I had my doubters but I always said I would become a professional footballer. Thank you Aston Villa for making my dream become true!!! 17 years 391 games 87 goals for the team I’ve supported all my life is something I would never of dreamt of!! Thank you to the fans who have supported me all my career you have made me feel proud to put a villa shirt on! And also to the staff and players I have had the privilege to work with I will miss you all💔😥. I look forward to watching the great young talent we have at the club and watching this special club get back to the where it belongs! The pleasure has been all mine Aston Villa 💜💜💜
Fuck off.
So long and thanks for all the...oh fuck off!From instagram
ga11official At school I had my doubters but I always said I would become a professional footballer. Thank you Aston Villa for making my dream become true!!! 17 years 391 games 87 goals for the team I’ve supported all my life is something I would never of dreamt of!! Thank you to the fans who have supported me all my career you have made me feel proud to put a villa shirt on! And also to the staff and players I have had the privilege to work with I will miss you all💔😥. I look forward to watching the great young talent we have at the club and watching this special club get back to the where it belongs! The pleasure has been all mine Aston Villa 💜💜💜
Fuck off.
Are there any Villa fans who really care? Is he that deluded to think otherwise
Interesting last line. The pleasure has been all mine. Yes it has you useless fecker, along with all the money, piss poor attitude and sick notes.
The only shirt he'll be wearing will be from that clothing label he's involved with.
The difference is that I reckon Samba could be arsed.