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Title: Big Decisions For Villa In Summer, What's Priority ?
Post by: warleyboy on May 15, 2015, 10:16:19 AM
Well it has been a roller coaster season so far, and hopefully it will finish with us safe in the premier league and a new trophy for the cabinet.

But what would be your priority wish for the coming season.

Me personally would like to see,  Tekkers sign a new extension, New Keeper and CB but most of all, I am hoping for a club statement stating Randy is now in a position to keep the club.

With what TS has achieved this season, and have full confidence in him to buy some quality, we need some security at the club.

My concern is if some consortium takes over, will they keep TS, sell our best players etc.

So Randy, put our minds at rest, sort it out day after our cup win.
Title: Re: Big Decisions For Villa In Summer, What's Priority ?
Post by: itbrvilla on May 15, 2015, 10:19:00 AM
I really am worried about being sold due to amount of shit that happens at other clubs.
Title: Re: Big Decisions For Villa In Summer, What's Priority ?
Post by: Des Little on May 15, 2015, 10:20:33 AM
I think the biggest issue really is what colour the away shorts are going to be.  Nothing else matters.
Title: Re: Big Decisions For Villa In Summer, What's Priority ?
Post by: TheMalandro on May 15, 2015, 10:21:57 AM
I think the biggest issue really is what colour the away shorts are going to be.  Nothing else matters.

I take it the pressure washing of the North Stand slipped your mind?
Title: Re: Big Decisions For Villa In Summer, What's Priority ?
Post by: supertom on May 15, 2015, 10:23:58 AM
I would be concentrating on matters on the pitch. Let any potential takeover happen naturally in its course.
Tie down Benteke if we can. If not get as much wonga as possible for him and replace with quality ASAP. And then let Sherwood mould his side throughout pre-season and the transfer window.

I think any new owner would be more than happy to keep Sherwood on board.
Title: Re: Big Decisions For Villa In Summer, What's Priority ?
Post by: stubbsyandy on May 15, 2015, 10:38:02 AM
Full backs please
Title: Re: Big Decisions For Villa In Summer, What's Priority ?
Post by: DeKuip on May 15, 2015, 10:40:49 AM
The biggest decision is in who Randy sells to. There are enough examples out there of what could happen if he gets that wrong for us.
Title: Re: Big Decisions For Villa In Summer, What's Priority ?
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on May 15, 2015, 10:41:52 AM
Keep Benteke, Keep Delph, Keep Jack, Sell the club
Title: Re: Big Decisions For Villa In Summer, What's Priority ?
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on May 15, 2015, 10:45:01 AM
Oh and get a new shirt deal, this Macron stuff is wank
Title: Re: Big Decisions For Villa In Summer, What's Priority ?
Post by: Des Little on May 15, 2015, 10:50:24 AM
I think the biggest issue really is what colour the away shorts are going to be.  Nothing else matters.

I take it the pressure washing of the North Stand slipped your mind?

Yeah, I've come to like it looking like a inner city tower block as you walk up Witton Lane. 
Title: Re: Big Decisions For Villa In Summer, What's Priority ?
Post by: peter w on May 15, 2015, 11:01:52 AM
I'll wait until I know which division we'll be in before I can start picking the team.
Title: Re: Big Decisions For Villa In Summer, What's Priority ?
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on May 15, 2015, 11:14:53 AM
Get rid of this idiot and get a decent manager in. A few coaches should also be a priority.

Oh hang on, that was last summer. Make sure we have funds to support whatever gems our scouts have found. Takeover or not, we can't afford to stand still. Onwards and upwards.
Title: Re: Big Decisions For Villa In Summer, What's Priority ?
Post by: tomd2103 on May 15, 2015, 11:29:37 AM
Full backs please

Not sure right back is a priority with Hutton, Bacuna and Lowton at the club.  A starting left back, however, is a must. 
Title: Re: Big Decisions For Villa In Summer, What's Priority ?
Post by: rob_bridge on May 15, 2015, 11:41:37 AM
Left back - highest priority.
Title: Re: Big Decisions For Villa In Summer, What's Priority ?
Post by: sonyhill on May 15, 2015, 11:50:07 AM
Would like to see Clevz and Sinclair on permanent deals and a left back.  And keep hold of Benteke of course!
Title: Re: Big Decisions For Villa In Summer, What's Priority ?
Post by: mike on May 15, 2015, 12:06:18 PM
I'll wait until I know which division we'll be in before I can start picking the team.
Glad to see I'm not the only pessimist round here.
Title: Re: Big Decisions For Villa In Summer, What's Priority ?
Post by: mattjpa on May 15, 2015, 12:11:35 PM
Benteke offered double wages and resigned. Cleverley and sinclair signed up. Vlaar resigned. The club sold to the correct people, I dont think Sherwood will be going anywhere regardless.

I think everything else is academic. periferal players will come and go, we may get 1 or 2 big name signings that will get into the first team which would be nice. If all of the above happens I would expect us to consolidate on what has turned out to be a half decent season and push on to re-establish ourselves in the top ten. for a couple of years before taking the next step
Title: Re: Big Decisions For Villa In Summer, What's Priority ?
Post by: chrisw1 on May 15, 2015, 12:44:30 PM
I'm just excited to see what Sherwood can do with a transfer window and a full pre-season.  Back him to the hilt and let him decide the priorities.
Title: Re: Big Decisions For Villa In Summer, What's Priority ?
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on May 15, 2015, 12:47:01 PM
To continue to be a team that looks to win games. Nothing else matters.
Title: Re: Big Decisions For Villa In Summer, What's Priority ?
Post by: leylandalbion on May 15, 2015, 12:56:33 PM
Benteke offered double wages and resigned. Cleverley and sinclair signed up. Vlaar resigned. The club sold to the correct people, I dont think Sherwood will be going anywhere regardless.

I think everything else is academic. periferal players will come and go, we may get 1 or 2 big name signings that will get into the first team which would be nice. If all of the above happens I would expect us to consolidate on what has turned out to be a half decent season and push on to re-establish ourselves in the top ten. for a couple of years before taking the next step
I assume you mean re-signed  ;)
Title: Re: Big Decisions For Villa In Summer, What's Priority ?
Post by: silhillvilla on May 15, 2015, 01:01:53 PM
Ideally I would like Lerner to recommit himself to the club and open a new war chest
Title: Re: Big Decisions For Villa In Summer, What's Priority ?
Post by: Kevin Dawson on May 15, 2015, 01:03:49 PM
Oh and get a new shirt deal, this Macron stuff is wank

When does the deal expire?
Title: Re: Big Decisions For Villa In Summer, What's Priority ?
Post by: cdbearsfan on May 15, 2015, 01:12:48 PM
My main concern is who owns the club.

If it's Randy, so be it. I'll be content.

If it's someone who has the money to buy us outright and comes in with a vision to take the club forward (and shitloads of cash for transfers) I'll be excited.

If it's some cowboy who wants to pay half now and leverage the club for the other half, has no money for players and wants to appoint Tony wanking Adams, I'll give up the hope which has returned over the last few months. Might not even bother renewing.
Title: Re: Big Decisions For Villa In Summer, What's Priority ?
Post by: Toronto Villa on May 15, 2015, 01:23:18 PM
I'd be happy if Randy was still in charge if our finances are back to a point where we start investing properly as a PL club again. I get why he didn't these past few years following the MON fallout though it nearly crushed us. But he's a good owner because he has backed the club to immense sums of money and in an owner thats what we want. Doesn't matter to me whether he is at the club or not in a day to day basis. So first priority is certainty at the board level so the manager has certainty in terms of his support. Then we just need to buy more players who will play this way. Can't expect this level of energy from the players every week so Sherwood has to find better where needed and depth so when he does rotate there isn't a drop in form or application. Left back is a must, a forward, securing Cleverley and Sinclair and a CB because ours are like glass.
Title: Re: Big Decisions For Villa In Summer, What's Priority ?
Post by: Kingthing on May 15, 2015, 01:27:54 PM

To win the FA cup for the second year in a row.
Title: Re: Big Decisions For Villa In Summer, What's Priority ?
Post by: AV82EC on May 15, 2015, 01:35:58 PM
1. Randy keeps club
2. Fox stays as CEO
3. Clear statement and agreement between Fox and Sherwood on new Director of Football Ops role.
4. Benteke improved and extended deal ( ideally 3 yrs left after Euro 2016)
5. Cleverly signed
6. Sinclair signed
7. FFP compliant War chest agreed for summer squad building
8. Renew supplies of silver polish.
9. Agree priorities for season re League position, cups
10. Jet wash the North stand
11. Start planning for world domination

I think that about covers it.....Tom and Tim over to you.
Title: Re: Big Decisions For Villa In Summer, What's Priority ?
Post by: paul_e on May 15, 2015, 01:46:05 PM
I'm not going to worry about the boardroom, what happens with the ownership, etc shouldn't stop us focusing on what's important on the pitch.

On the pitch for me the most important thing right now is to get 2 players we're happy with in every position (and then an extra goalie, extra defender and extra attacker) and then sell or loan out most of the first team players who don't fit into that.

Keeping the players we want to keep is first priority, so new deals for Vlaar and Benteke along with a contract offer for Cleverley and a transfer offer for Sinclair.

If we do all that the key signings for me are then someone to compete with Delph for the left side of the diamond in midfield and another attacker to replace Weimann who I'd let go.  Left back I'd like to see Bennett have another go under a manager who can use him properly, I think there's a good player in there.
Title: Re: Big Decisions For Villa In Summer, What's Priority ?
Post by: PaulWinch again on May 15, 2015, 02:16:43 PM
1. Randy keeps club
2. Fox stays as CEO
3. Clear statement and agreement between Fox and Sherwood on new Director of Football Ops role.
4. Benteke improved and extended deal ( ideally 3 yrs left after Euro 2016)
5. Cleverly signed
6. Sinclair signed
7. FFP compliant War chest agreed for summer squad building
8. Renew supplies of silver polish.
9. Agree priorities for season re League position, cups
10. Jet wash the North stand
11. Start planning for world domination

I think that about covers it.....Tom and Tim over to you.

Add parade the FA Cup and I agree with you.
Title: Re: Big Decisions For Villa In Summer, What's Priority ?
Post by: Villan For Life on May 15, 2015, 02:30:20 PM
A few priorities for me.

Win the FA Cup

Start planning for a season where we don't flirt with relegation. The last few seasons have taken their toll! These plans need to include keeping Benteke, Sinclair & Cleverley and bringing in players who strengthen the squad and add competition for places.

Subject to contract expiry dates, I'd like to see a new kit supplier - we've never had Adidas so I'd like them and a new sponsor whose logo compliments the shirt.
Title: Re: Big Decisions For Villa In Summer, What's Priority ?
Post by: tomd2103 on May 15, 2015, 02:47:28 PM
I think the biggest issue really is what colour the away shorts are going to be.  Nothing else matters.

I take it the pressure washing of the North Stand slipped your mind?

Yeah, I've come to like it looking like a inner city tower block as you walk up Witton Lane.

Not a priority at the moment, but it could really do with redeveloping as it is beginning to look dated, especially on the outside.  Would love to see a development that enclosed the North, Trinity Road and Witton Lane stands.   
Title: Re: Big Decisions For Villa In Summer, What's Priority ?
Post by: ktvillan on May 15, 2015, 02:53:37 PM
Ideally I would like Lerner to recommit himself to the club and open a new war chest

I tend to agree, based mainly on the fact that a new owner is far more likely to be a right nutter who will change the name, the colours and want to manage the team (or Tony Adams, which is pretty much as bad) as it is to be a benevolent  trillionaire.  Despite his many past fuck-ups Lerner may finally have hit on something with Fox and Sherwood and it would be a shame not see it given a chance and a bit of backing.
Title: Re: Big Decisions For Villa In Summer, What's Priority ?
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on May 15, 2015, 03:55:00 PM
Oh and get a new shirt deal, this Macron stuff is wank

When does the deal expire?

Not sure but I think we will be in the crap next season, I usually buy my kits for £10 at the end of the season but that's too much
Title: Re: Big Decisions For Villa In Summer, What's Priority ?
Post by: ChicagoLion on May 15, 2015, 04:35:14 PM
I am in the Devil you know camp. Finally it looks like we have some stability with Fox and Sherwood.

It feels like we are a club on the verge of being competitive again and what we need now is to build on this.

I would like Randy to stay.
Title: Re: Big Decisions For Villa In Summer, What's Priority ?
Post by: LeeB on May 15, 2015, 06:54:03 PM
I'd like Randy to stay too, it looks like he's finally cracked it.
Title: Re: Big Decisions For Villa In Summer, What's Priority ?
Post by: martin o`who?? on May 15, 2015, 07:01:52 PM
I'd like Randy to stay too, it looks like he's finally cracked it.
d'yer know what, same thought crossed my mind, I will defend Lerners intentions towards the club until the cows come home.
Title: Re: Big Decisions For Villa In Summer, What's Priority ?
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on May 15, 2015, 07:16:17 PM
I am in the Devil you know camp. Finally it looks like we have some stability with Fox and Sherwood.

It feels like we are a club on the verge of being competitive again and what we need now is to build on this.

I would like Randy to stay.
Pretty much this - the thought of an asset stripping owner worries me
Title: Re: Big Decisions For Villa In Summer, What's Priority ?
Post by: martin o`who?? on May 15, 2015, 07:47:29 PM
Meanwhile, on the pitch, keeper for starters, Shay can't go on forever and Brad has started to look vulnerable, if Benteke goes then that's an obvious one, need to strengthen in the L/B as well, if Vlaar goes, ditto.
Title: Re: Big Decisions For Villa In Summer, What's Priority ?
Post by: warleyboy on May 15, 2015, 07:50:13 PM
Gotta love our Timmy.

Just had a look at the ssp preview of saints v villa.
Click on the Sherwood bet with the reporter for a ton.
The guy is a legend.

He seems to think that the club will not be sold by the pre season return..
Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Big Decisions For Villa In Summer, What's Priority ?
Post by: martin o`who?? on May 15, 2015, 07:50:27 PM
I'd like Randy to stay too, it looks like he's finally cracked it.
i still say the blokes fallen victim to bad advise on more than one occasion, yes Fergie you twat, that statement is aimed at you.
Title: Re: Big Decisions For Villa In Summer, What's Priority ?
Post by: Des Little on May 15, 2015, 09:44:44 PM
Gotta love our Timmy.

Just had a look at the ssp preview of saints v villa.
Click on the Sherwood bet with the reporter for a ton.
The guy is a legend.

He seems to think that the club will not be sold by the pre season return..
Fingers crossed.
That is priceless. The bloke is top drawer
Title: Re: Big Decisions For Villa In Summer, What's Priority ?
Post by: robbo1874 on May 16, 2015, 03:25:42 AM
Oh and get a new shirt deal, this Macron stuff is wank

When does the deal expire?
is umbro still alive? If so, I'd like one of those please mr Fox.
Title: Re: Big Decisions For Villa In Summer, What's Priority ?
Post by: brian green on May 16, 2015, 09:20:47 AM
My football hopes for the year ahead can be summed up by the word "stay". Premiership, Lerner, Fox, Sherwood, Benteke, Delph, Cleverley, Grealish, Okore, Baker, Clark, Sinclair, Bacuna, N'Zogbia, Hutton.

My non football hopes are that the North Stand will not be jet washed but demolished and replaced with, over the whole site, a development incorporating a new North Stand, an hotel and a very large sports, leisure and community centre.   The way forward for the biggest and best clubs is as a hub for the local community and beyond.   With the right mix of uses the project could get very close in my opinion to being self financing.

We need to show the same foresight and confidence off the pitch as Tim Sherwood has instilled into the team.
Title: Re: Big Decisions For Villa In Summer, What's Priority ?
Post by: curiousorange on May 16, 2015, 02:39:12 PM
Replace our entire back line and starting keeper.
Title: Re: Big Decisions For Villa In Summer, What's Priority ?
Post by: Deano's Mullet on May 16, 2015, 02:40:09 PM
New defence, new keeper, at least one midfielder and a striker to partner benteke
Title: Re: Big Decisions For Villa In Summer, What's Priority ?
Post by: LTA on May 16, 2015, 03:09:49 PM
Replace our entire back line and starting keeper.

Keep Ciaran  Clark and jettison the rest.
Title: Re: Big Decisions For Villa In Summer, What's Priority ?
Post by: cdbearsfan on May 16, 2015, 03:56:18 PM
When they said they were looking to bring in Tony Adams in a football capacity, I didn't think they meant at centre-half.
Title: Re: Big Decisions For Villa In Summer, What's Priority ?
Post by: passitsideways on May 16, 2015, 04:36:23 PM
As horrendous as today was, I hardly think we should be overreacting: we always needed a couple of defenders this summer regardless of how things turned out. If one of Clark and Baker continue the progress they've made this season, left-sided centre back should be alright. We'll need a right-sided CB, because Okore's still obviously got a way to go, especially in terms of consistency and the mental side of things, and Senderos is completely unreliable in terms of his availability. As for RB, today I think was merely proof that Bacuna can't play every week there, but I don't think it's exactly dire with him and Hutton taking turns at that spot. LB is the other big question, but who knows, maybe we'll luck out and find one or two serviceable options there from Richardson, Bennett, Cissokho or Lowton.
Title: Re: Big Decisions For Villa In Summer, What's Priority ?
Post by: Villafirst on May 16, 2015, 05:08:17 PM
Have to keep hold of Benteke, end of.
Title: Re: Big Decisions For Villa In Summer, What's Priority ?
Post by: Matt Collins on May 16, 2015, 05:10:55 PM
It's a challenging summer. Uncertainty over ownership. Need to sign cleverly and hold on to benteke to stay still. Then I'd prioritise a left back after that.

I think we've had enough games this season where the defence has been good not to rip everything up. The problem today was the tactics - a ludicrously poorly coordinated high line - as the players.

Remember a few haven't been fit,  including okore. So rest him and a fair few others next weekend
Title: Re: Big Decisions For Villa In Summer, What's Priority ?
Post by: Villafirst on May 16, 2015, 05:25:56 PM
Play Gil, Robinson and Sinclair against Burnley...
Title: Re: Big Decisions For Villa In Summer, What's Priority ?
Post by: CT Villan on May 16, 2015, 06:06:33 PM
1. Let Vlaar go and replace appropriately.
2. Okore has one more season to prove himself to me - I've not been impressed so far, but he is apparently carrying an injury, hence the extra season.
3. Keep Clark, Baker, Hutton, Bacuna, Lowton & Cissokho. Get a new left back to compete with Aly.
4. Sign TC up
5. Guzan + a new keeper to fight for the Keeper shirt. Given, release or coaching role.
6. Extend CB contract.
7. Bring Kozak, Bennett, Gardner, Bent etc into the fold and evaluate in preseason or until January if required.
8. Gabby has one more season to get >10 league goals, if not bye, bye.
9. Weimann and Cole can leave.
10. N'Zog out, Sinclair in.
11. Find a few younger players to push the seniors and develop.
Title: Re: Big Decisions For Villa In Summer, What's Priority ?
Post by: dekko on May 17, 2015, 12:48:21 PM
Assuming we keep Benteke and Cleverly and Sinclair sign permanently, in order of priority:

1. Replace Vlaar with a proper commanding CB who can play alongside Clark (preferably a bearded Norseman)

2. New LB

3. Ball-playing DM - ie half Westy half Sanchez

4. Box to Box midfielder to challenge Delph and Cleverly

5. New keeper

6. New CF to complement/challenge Benteke/Kozak/Gabby and replace Weimann


Of course, if anyone goes, they'll need replacing in addition to the ones listed above.  Also, if we win the cup and qualify for Europe we'll need a shitload of squad players too.
Title: Re: Big Decisions For Villa In Summer, What's Priority ?
Post by: Mister E on May 17, 2015, 01:17:26 PM
The most important acquisition will be a defence coach. For 5 seasons at least we have defended with naïveté and ineptitude, particularly for set pieces.
Leicester have proved this season that tightening up the defence is the platform to a change in fortunes. We need to become difficult to beat, without losing our newly-found attacking capability.
Title: Re: Big Decisions For Villa In Summer, What's Priority ?
Post by: Villa Lew on May 17, 2015, 02:18:20 PM
Assuming we keep Benteke and Cleverly and Sinclair sign permanently, in order of priority:

1. Replace Vlaar with a proper commanding CB who can play alongside Clark (preferably a bearded Norseman)

2. New LB

3. Ball-playing DM - ie half Westy half Sanchez

4. Box to Box midfielder to challenge Delph and Cleverly

5. New keeper

6. New CF to complement/challenge Benteke/Kozak/Gabby and replace Weimann


Of course, if anyone goes, they'll need replacing in addition to the ones listed above.  Also, if we win the cup and qualify for Europe we'll need a shitload of squad players too.
Gabby has to go he simply isn't good enough at this level, hasn't been for 2/3 seasons. Not only a box to box midfielder, a goal scoring midfielder. Despite our excellent form, since TS arrived, our only real goal threat has been from Benteke and recently Cleverley.
Title: Re: Big Decisions For Villa In Summer, What's Priority ?
Post by: dekko on May 17, 2015, 02:23:28 PM
Gabby has to go he simply isn't good enough at this level, hasn't been for 2/3 seasons. Not only a box to box midfielder, a goal scoring midfielder. Despite our excellent form, since TS arrived, our only real goal threat has been from Benteke and recently Cleverley.
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I'd hold on to Gabby and use him as and when required, eg against teams that play a high line or as an impact sub against teams chasing a lead.  Basically I still think he's a very very useful player to have in situations where he can use his pace, but not much use otherwise.  He probably shouldn't be starting though.
Title: Re: Big Decisions For Villa In Summer, What's Priority ?
Post by: tomd2103 on May 17, 2015, 06:08:47 PM
Assuming we keep Benteke and Cleverly and Sinclair sign permanently, in order of priority:

1. Replace Vlaar with a proper commanding CB who can play alongside Clark (preferably a bearded Norseman)

2. New LB

3. Ball-playing DM - ie half Westy half Sanchez

4. Box to Box midfielder to challenge Delph and Cleverly

5. New keeper

6. New CF to complement/challenge Benteke/Kozak/Gabby and replace Weimann


Of course, if anyone goes, they'll need replacing in addition to the ones listed above.  Also, if we win the cup and qualify for Europe we'll need a shitload of squad players too.

Totally agree, but that little lot is going to be costly.  Hopefully Gardner can step up and give us another option in midfield , but I still think we will need another option even if Cleverley signs. 
Title: Re: Big Decisions For Villa In Summer, What's Priority ?
Post by: LTA on May 17, 2015, 06:48:16 PM
I'd like to see a defensive coach brought in to be honest.  Sherwood has shown here and at Spurs that his teams are prone to the odd humping.

Its great that we the and play on the front foot and as he's said, this team isn't good enough to try and defend for long spells, but with safety assured, its something which needs addressing.

We cant have another season of just going bat shit for goals without having some solidity
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