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Title: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: ACVilla on May 07, 2015, 01:29:44 PM
Just being reported on Sky News, sounds an horrific proposition.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: villadelph on May 07, 2015, 01:32:16 PM
care to elaborate?
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Tokyo Sexwhale on May 07, 2015, 01:32:43 PM
Oh, really?

(http://www.sussexfestival.co.uk/images/TonyAdams.jpg)

Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: aev on May 07, 2015, 01:33:19 PM
I think he is seeking backing for a takeover.

Which sounds a little bit vague to me (thankfully).
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: The Villa Werewolf on May 07, 2015, 01:33:54 PM
FUCK.

THAT.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: ACVilla on May 07, 2015, 01:34:04 PM
Sky News have just reported that Tony Adams has approached "the city" to help finance a bid to buy Aston Villa with Goldman Sachs also being approached by him.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: joe_c on May 07, 2015, 01:34:11 PM
Just being reported on Sky News, sounds an horrific proposition.

Sure they weren't talking about his overtaking?
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 07, 2015, 01:34:56 PM
Dear Tony Adams,

Fuck off.

Lots of love,
AVFC
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: aev on May 07, 2015, 01:35:27 PM
Whenever I hear him speak he comes across as a tool.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: PaulWinch again on May 07, 2015, 01:39:08 PM
Absolutely no bloody way. The guy is a loon and an idiot at the same time.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Dr Butler on May 07, 2015, 01:39:59 PM
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Sport/Pix/columnists/2011/7/22/1311353784982/Tony-Adams-007.jpg)
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: villadelph on May 07, 2015, 01:40:08 PM
His net worth can't be more than £15m at this point in his life. How is that even possible.. no wealthy consortium would trust that drunk.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: pauliewalnuts on May 07, 2015, 01:40:31 PM
Remember his views on managing us?

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Adams has had two (very unsuccessful) stints at both Wycombe and Portsmouth but now has no further interest in working anywhere but Arsenal. He said: “I’ve done the lower leagues and it’s a different style of managing,” he said. “No disrespect but I don’t want to be Swansea boss, either. They probably don’t want me. Aston Villa? What’s the point? What can you do with them? So it’s the Arsenal or nothing and I’m not ready for that.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Clampy on May 07, 2015, 01:40:49 PM
Have T'Bar annouced him as chairman yet?
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: PaulWinch again on May 07, 2015, 01:41:20 PM
To be honest why would anybody with sufficient money to buy a Premier League club want to have him as the front man?
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: aev on May 07, 2015, 01:42:02 PM
2015's Ray Ranson, with added bonkers.

Actually that is unfair, as Ranson was a proven businessman.

Maybe this years Michael Neville.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Breezeblock on May 07, 2015, 01:42:57 PM
Nice troll! What's next, Robbie Savage as DOF? Paul Tait as PR man? Ally Brown as tackling coach?
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Tom_Mc9? on May 07, 2015, 01:43:18 PM
I'd imagine in the future this will be spoken about in various pubs 'Remember when Tony Adams was rumoured to take over the Villa?'

Sounds a shit idea and I doubt there's any legs in it.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Monty on May 07, 2015, 01:45:43 PM
Nice troll! What's next, Robbie Savage as DOF? Paul Tait as PR man? Ally Brown as tackling coach?

Steve Hodge as Fan Liason Manager.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on May 07, 2015, 01:51:04 PM
Ex con ain't he? He'd fail the Fit 'n' Proper Person test
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: wozwebs on May 07, 2015, 01:53:42 PM
http://news.sky.com/story/1479493/ex-arsenal-captain-adams-eyes-villa-takeover
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: wozwebs on May 07, 2015, 01:53:55 PM
The former Arsenal and England footballer Tony Adams has approached City investors about backing a £150m takeover of Aston Villa, the struggling Premier League club.

Sky News has learnt that Mr Adams has been working with Paul Smith, a former executive at Chelsea FC and IMG, the sports rights agency, on a possible bid.

They have approached a number of private equity and other investment firms in recent weeks in an effort to raise approximately £75m in new equity to finance an offer for Aston Villa.

The remainder of the funding for a takeover would probably be in the form of new debt, with a unit of Goldman Sachs understood to have been sounded out about providing the additional capital.

Mr Adams and Mr Smith are said to have formed a new company called Halo which they intend to use as a vehicle to acquire Aston Villa and minority stakes in other leading football clubs.

One City source said on Thursday that Portugal's Sporting Lisbon and Italy's Internazionale were among the other clubs in which Halo was likely to express an interest.

Brazil and Belgium are also among the national leagues that the vehicle was assessing, with Mr Adams and Mr Smith interested in establishing an international network that would create "a long supply chain of playing talent", a source said.

It is unclear whether they have yet secured financial backing for their plans.

Aston Villa has effectively been up for sale for more than a year, with Randy Lerner, the American tycoon who bought it for just over £60m in 2006, keen to offload it.

Mr Lerner has ploughed tens of millions of pounds into the West Midlands club, with some initial success in the form of several top six Premier League finishes.

However, recent seasons have seen Aston Villa reverting to a persistent battle against relegation.

Last year, Mr Lerner appointed Bank of America Merrill Lynch, to handle an auction of Aston Villa, and dozens of parties are since said to have lodged an interest.

Halo has been given access to a data room holding information on Aston Villa's finances, although its bid is not understood to be the current frontrunner of those remaining in the process, sources indicated on Thursday.

Mr Lerner's advisers will wait until Aston Villa's Premier League fate is resolved before holding further serious talks with any of the remaining potential buyers, who also include at least one US-based consortium, according to insiders.

The club currently stand 14th in the table but are only two points clear of the relegation zone with three games left.

Relegation from English football's top flight could have a profound impact on the value of Aston Villa, partly because a new £5bn-plus television rights deal (partly funded by Sky plc, the owner of Sky News) is due to begin in the 2016-17 season.

Regarded as one of Arsenal's best-ever players, Mr Adams has since had an indifferent stint in football management, initially with Wycombe Wanderers and more recently in Azerbaijan.

Coincidentally, Arsenal and Aston Villa will meet later this month in the FA Cup Final at Wembley.

Neither Mr Adams nor Mr Smith could be reached for comment, while BAML declined to comment.

Aston Villa is not the only Premier League club expected to change hands in the next few months.

Crystal Palace has been discussing a capital injection led by a group of wealthy Wall Street financiers, while Tottenham Hotspur and Queens Park Rangers have also been linked with potential takeovers
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 07, 2015, 01:56:25 PM
Sounds exactly what we need, a consortium that can't even raise the asking price.

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They have approached a number of private equity and other investment firms in recent weeks in an effort to raise approximately £75m in new equity to finance an offer for Aston Villa.

The remainder of the funding for a takeover would probably be in the form of new debt, with a unit of Goldman Sachs understood to have been sounded out about providing the additional capital.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: KevinGage on May 07, 2015, 01:58:55 PM
Inter Milan and Sporting Lisbon too, eh?

Tony Adams has a very vivid imagination.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Chris Jameson on May 07, 2015, 02:00:28 PM
Remember that time he pretended to he could play the piano and liked poetry and reading books ?

Caprice feel for it, so fair play to him.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: villadelph on May 07, 2015, 02:03:00 PM
Who would fund the transfers if they can't even raise the initial fee?

This is ludicrous.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: aev on May 07, 2015, 02:04:54 PM
He reminds me a bit of Russell Brand and Paul Elliott in that whenever he speaks he insists on using long complicated words, and everything is so incredibly convoluted.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 07, 2015, 02:06:02 PM
Buy us, and whack us straight into £75m debt. What a fantastic business plan.

My first thought was, Mr Arsenal trying to unsettle the club a few weeks before the final. Then I remembered it's Tony Adams and he isn't smart enough to think of that.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: pauliewalnuts on May 07, 2015, 02:06:05 PM
Sounds exactly what we need, a consortium that can't even raise the asking price.

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They have approached a number of private equity and other investment firms in recent weeks in an effort to raise approximately £75m in new equity to finance an offer for Aston Villa.

The remainder of the funding for a takeover would probably be in the form of new debt, with a unit of Goldman Sachs understood to have been sounded out about providing the additional capital.

That'd be supremely unlucky.

1. Tony Adams is an absolute bell-end. No need even for the usual "I'll see what he does here first before I make a judgment" thing, he's a grade A twat.

2. Him running us would be bad enough, but doing it via loading the club with debt would be the supreme kick in the bollocks.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: pauliewalnuts on May 07, 2015, 02:07:09 PM
He reminds me a bit of Russell Brand and Paul Elliott in that whenever he speaks he insists on using long complicated words, and everything is so incredibly convoluted.

"Well, in that case, Mr Adams, I hope you will not object if I also offer you my most enthusiastic contrafibularities."
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: TheMalandro on May 07, 2015, 02:07:21 PM
Remember that time he pretended to he could play the piano?



I thought 'crocodile shoes' was a pretty good hit
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: pauliewalnuts on May 07, 2015, 02:09:49 PM
I remember us playing Arsenal a few days after he got sent to prison, and us singing "Are you watching from your cell?"
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 07, 2015, 02:10:39 PM
I remember us playing Arsenal a few days after he got sent to prison, and us singing "Are you watching from your cell?"

"Where's your donkey gone, where's your donkey gone"
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: pauliewalnuts on May 07, 2015, 02:11:59 PM
I remember us playing Arsenal a few days after he got sent to prison, and us singing "Are you watching from your cell?"

"Where's your donkey gone, where's your donkey gone"

Ha ha, yes, that too.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: mr underhill on May 07, 2015, 02:13:46 PM
Tony's the footballing equivalent of Leonard Sachs, using an arcane and verbose mode of speech to harp on about the good old days. Plus he's an ugly cnut.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Ads on May 07, 2015, 02:15:58 PM
Halo? Pft, Xbone is for no0bs.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: wozwebs on May 07, 2015, 02:20:09 PM
I think he must be back on the bottle
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Brend'Watkins on May 07, 2015, 02:23:52 PM
I remember us playing Arsenal a few days after he got sent to prison, and us singing "Are you watching from your cell?"

"Where's your donkey gone, where's your donkey gone"

Ha ha, yes, that too.

I remember "what a waste of carrots" when he returned. 

Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: itbrvilla on May 07, 2015, 02:31:13 PM
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Mr Adams and Mr Smith interested in establishing an international network that would create "a long supply chain of playing talent", a source said.

So we are a going to be a device for making lots of money for these guys through player sales?
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Steve R on May 07, 2015, 02:45:44 PM
It just shows how seriously underpriced we are at 150 mill, especially with the increase in Sky cash coming along. They are the kind of conditions that led ManU to be saddled with the Glazers. The only defence we have is that we are 100% privately owned and as long as the owner chooses not to sell to this prick we are safe.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Boz on May 07, 2015, 02:50:38 PM
Pat Murphy on 5Live has just reported that this consortium is the leading contender for Villa in front of the Chinese. He didn't mention anything about they still had to raise the £150m, but Smith knows Lerner evidently and Smith used to be Chelsea's director of football who sued them for wrongful dismissal. Definitely sounding like a get rich quick merchant.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Tokyo Sexwhale on May 07, 2015, 02:54:16 PM
Pat Murphy on 5Live has just reported that this consortium is the leading contender for Villa in front of the Chinese. He didn't mention anything about they still had to raise the £150m, but Smith knows Lerner evidently and Smith used to be Chelsea's director of football who sued them for wrongful dismissal. Definitely sounding like a get rich quick merchant.

Is this something that Pat Murphy "understands" or does he have it from Lerner or Fox?
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Boz on May 07, 2015, 03:08:12 PM
Pat Murphy on 5Live has just reported that this consortium is the leading contender for Villa in front of the Chinese. He didn't mention anything about they still had to raise the £150m, but Smith knows Lerner evidently and Smith used to be Chelsea's director of football who sued them for wrongful dismissal. Definitely sounding like a get rich quick merchant.

Is this something that Pat Murphy "understands" or does he have it from Lerner or Fox?

Villa spokesperson he says
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Monty on May 07, 2015, 03:13:04 PM
Tony fucking Adams? Well that's the most underwhelming thing I think I've ever heard. I'd rather still have Lerner and Tom Fox, thanks.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Percy McCarthy on May 07, 2015, 03:19:10 PM
If our new owners are moronic enough to think that having their bid fronted by a gargantuan fuckwit like Tony Adams gives it credibility, then God help us.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: DeKuip on May 07, 2015, 03:23:02 PM
We'll become Asston Villa
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Ron Manager on May 07, 2015, 03:24:00 PM
Could be worse, I suppose.

Could be Russell Brand!

Anyway if we win the FA Cup and stay up Randy might decide to stay.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Sexual Ealing on May 07, 2015, 03:24:33 PM
I for one welcome our GCSE-qualified new overlords.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: KevinGage on May 07, 2015, 03:25:25 PM
Tony fucking Adams? Well that's the most underwhelming thing I think I've ever heard. I'd rather still have Lerner and Tom Fox, thanks.


If a failing regime wanted to boost their popularity, a good way of going about it would be to offer Tony Adams as an alternative.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: danno on May 07, 2015, 03:25:35 PM
Why would they want to buy us, when they can have West Brom?

I honestly can't conceive how anyone would want Tony Adams as the face
of their consortium.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Mister E on May 07, 2015, 03:26:15 PM
If they're looking to raise a couple of hundred mill to buy us, they're deluded: the working capital requirements will bury them without trace. Furthermore, I read somewhere that they are talking about raising debt to fund the deal - sounds like a Glazer strategy to me: saddle the club with loads of debt-equity and then scoop out what value they can without any personal risk in it.

No thanks.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Dave on May 07, 2015, 03:28:22 PM
It's rare that we reach a complete consensus on a topic here on H&V. I reckon that this is the first subject to manage it in a long time.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: brian green on May 07, 2015, 03:32:26 PM
If Tony Adams gets control of Villa I will personally burn Villa Park to the ground then hand myself in to the police.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Dr Butler on May 07, 2015, 03:35:48 PM
It's rare that we reach a complete consensus on a topic here on H&V. I reckon that this is the first subject to manage it in a long time.

OK I will play the devils advocate to balance things up.....


no I can't...he's a fucking ponce...

UTV
The Doc
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: pauliewalnuts on May 07, 2015, 03:36:18 PM
It's rare that we reach a complete consensus on a topic here on H&V. I reckon that this is the first subject to manage it in a long time.

Isn't it.

Just added a poll.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: DrGonzo on May 07, 2015, 03:37:23 PM
He is reported to "not be the current frontrunner of those still in the process".  So whilst Adams can fuck right off the positive view is that there are better offers out there.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: joe_c on May 07, 2015, 03:39:31 PM
Pretty sure he admitted being a Tory as well so for that reason, and all the others, I'm out.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on May 07, 2015, 03:39:40 PM
Sounds like a load of old horse shit to me
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: mr underhill on May 07, 2015, 03:40:26 PM
Talking about conflagrations, I saw a holiday rep type mockumentary recently when some halfwit rep stuck a firework up his arse and set fire to it to celebrate his birthday. I'd really like to do that to Tony if any of this is true.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: KRS on May 07, 2015, 03:42:54 PM
A consortium that hasn't even got half the capital required and has a plan to put the club in debt for the other half...yeah sounds like this could have some merit. Oh wait...fuck off Tony Adams you knob!

I'm pretty sure this will be the first in a long line of tedious takeover reports we'll see in the media over the next few months.

 
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Tokyo Sexwhale on May 07, 2015, 03:43:15 PM
It's an Arsenal plot to put the dampeners on us.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: KRS on May 07, 2015, 03:45:00 PM
May be someone read the idea on H&V that it could be cheaper to buy the club than to cherry pick our best players, and took the idea a little bit too far! *facepalm*
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: bridgwater villa on May 07, 2015, 03:51:07 PM
If Tony Adams gets control of Villa I will personally burn Villa Park to the ground then hand myself in to the police.
I'll bring the matches and petrol, oh and a few sarnies if we get hungry while we watch it burn.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: PaulWinch again on May 07, 2015, 03:53:24 PM
I'm sorry, but any consortium wanting Adams to be the front man can fuck right off.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: brian green on May 07, 2015, 03:53:40 PM
They would be hard pressed to find a worse offer. It's not Chinese April Fool's Day is it?
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Brend'Watkins on May 07, 2015, 03:55:10 PM
Tony Adams.  Tony Fucking Adams.  Just when you started to have positive thoughts about the club again you hear the name Tony Adams and Aston Villa in the same sentence. 

Please someone, make it go away.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: PaulWinch again on May 07, 2015, 03:58:23 PM
I just can't believe that any sensible business person would want to be involved with Tony Adams.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on May 07, 2015, 03:59:15 PM
I for one welcome our new o..

The fuck I do.

I like this bit.

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The remainder of the funding for a takeover would probably be in the form of new debt

So "doing a Glazier" then. Fuck off, fuck right off. Randy, all is forgiven.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: in exile on May 07, 2015, 04:04:51 PM
Please, someone make it stop
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: caustic_hollow on May 07, 2015, 04:09:29 PM
Tony Admas; it would be a dafabet.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: andyaston on May 07, 2015, 04:11:21 PM
Asset strippers by the sounds of it. So a big fat NO FUCKING WAY!
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: not3bad on May 07, 2015, 04:17:45 PM
Tony fucking Adams? Well that's the most underwhelming thing I think I've ever heard. I'd rather still have Lerner and Tom Fox, thanks.

To me it's kind of overwhelming.

Overwhelmingly daft.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: not3bad on May 07, 2015, 04:18:51 PM
Could be worse, I suppose.

Could be Russell Brand!


A consortium headed by Russell Brand and David Cameron will take over.  Aston Villa will henceforth be known as West Ham.  Same colours innit?
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Steve R on May 07, 2015, 04:22:12 PM
Reminds me of the day Stan Stennett threw his hat in the ring just before the 1968 takeover.   Except this is worse.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: adrenachrome on May 07, 2015, 04:22:12 PM
Express and Star (http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/aston-villa-fc/2015/05/07/aston-villa-linked-to-150m-take-over-bid/)

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Aston Villa linked to £150m take-over bid

Aston Villa are reportedly subject of a £150million take-over bid from investors led by former Chelsea business director Paul Smith.

PUBLISHED: May 7, 2015 8:05 am LAST UPDATED: May 7, 2015 3:56 pm

It's understood that ex-Arsenal player Tony Adams would be brought in to work on football matters, should the takeover be successful.

Smith is known to current Villa owner Randy Lerner, who put the club up for sale last May.

Lerner was at Villa’s Bodymoor Heath training ground today and spoke to manager Tim Sherwood, who claims he has heard nothing about any possible takeover deal.

Sherwood said: “I haven’t heard anything. I’m working for the football club not the individuals who are here.

“It’s one of the biggest football clubs in English football. I’m happy to be here and proud to be the manager.

“I had a chat with him (Lerner) today – he’s as worried as I am about the situation because we’re still not safe, but I’ve heard nothing about (about any developments)."

Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: LeeB on May 07, 2015, 04:24:43 PM
If Tony Adams gets control of Villa I will personally burn Villa Park to the ground then hand myself in to the police.

I'll happily carry the Jerry cans Brian.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 07, 2015, 04:25:03 PM
Too shit for anyone to appoint him as manager, so try and cobble together enough money to buy a club and appoint yourself. Fuck off Adams you knobber.

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Tony Adams would be brought in to work on football matters
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Steve67 on May 07, 2015, 04:25:34 PM
Mr. Adams, thank you for attending your fit persons interview. Question one: have you got the money, the experience and the backing to undertake the role of chairman of Aston Villa?

Er, no.

Ok, let's move on to question two.

Is there anything in your background which could bring the Football association in to disrepute?

Oh, er, hmm, possibly.

Ok, question three, do you have  qualification in business management? Are you capable of staying off alcohol if Villa are involved in another relegation scrap?

Oh, fuck!


This isn't happening. Even Randy wouldn't be that stupid.  It'll be some team like Portsmouth or Coventry.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Jimbo on May 07, 2015, 04:35:53 PM
They haven't got the money,
Their business plan is funny,
They make my stools go runny,
The Adams family.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Clark W Griswold on May 07, 2015, 04:39:29 PM
He reminds me a bit of Russell Brand and Paul Elliott in that whenever he speaks he insists on using long complicated words, and everything is so incredibly convoluted.

"Well, in that case, Mr Adams, I hope you will not object if I also offer you my most enthusiastic contrafibularities."

I would think many on here would be frasmotic, even compunctuous to have caused him such pericombobulation.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: maigrait on May 07, 2015, 04:41:05 PM
Sorry if its been posted previously on the BBC now too:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32627445 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32627445)
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: pooligan on May 07, 2015, 04:41:38 PM
There must be some mistake. They must have got us mixed up with those self called footballing giants over in Small Heath. I am sure they could afford to buy them.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Monty on May 07, 2015, 04:41:57 PM
He reminds me a bit of Russell Brand and Paul Elliott in that whenever he speaks he insists on using long complicated words, and everything is so incredibly convoluted.

"Well, in that case, Mr Adams, I hope you will not object if I also offer you my most enthusiastic contrafibularities."

I would think many on here would be frasmotic, even compunctuous to have caused him such pericombobulation.

He'd leave the interview early as well - he never stays for his pendigestatory interludicule.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: adrenachrome on May 07, 2015, 04:44:04 PM
From a John Percy piece in The Torygraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/aston-villa/11589605/Aston-Villa-targeted-by-consortium-including-Tony-Adams.html).

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Tim Sherwood, the Villa manager, admitted on Thursday afternoon he was unaware of any negotiations while chief executive Tom Fox claimed last week there was no impending takeover.

Yet Smith is already at the due diligence stage and though no takeover is imminent - and may not be agreed until the summer - Bank of America Merrill Lynch is working with Lerner to finalise a sale.

Smith held a number of executive roles at Chelsea before his acrimonious departure in 2007, when he was sacked on his return from a pre-season tour of the United States. He later lost a tribunal over alleged "unlawful wage deductions".

He was once known at Stamford Bridge as "Mr Football" and is now hoping to take control of Villa, with Lerner poised to end his nine-year association with the club.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: TonyD on May 07, 2015, 04:47:31 PM
Lerner would never even consider this.  He would never be that stupid.  Bit like putting a TSM in charge so don't worry.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: levico on May 07, 2015, 04:48:24 PM
It's not going to happen. No one will give him the finance.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Jimbo on May 07, 2015, 04:49:42 PM
One thing we can be sure of is that Randy Lerner would never do anything utterly, unspeakably and inexplicably stupid.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 07, 2015, 04:51:54 PM
How off your tits on meth would you have to be to think "Tony Adams? Yeah i'm in for £30m"
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: TonyD on May 07, 2015, 04:56:25 PM
Hopkins has been into Sparkhill Credit union with a costed plan to buy Barcelona.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: curiousorange on May 07, 2015, 05:10:53 PM
I'd rather put the Marx Brothers in charge. This guy couldn't control a car without crashing it into a pylon, so the last thing I would want is him in control of our football club.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: godzvilla on May 07, 2015, 05:15:01 PM
Adams has been coaching in Azerbaijan for the past few years, its a tenuous link but an Azerbaijani businessman recently took over Sheffield Wednesday and , as a Country, they spend millions in Football sponsorship, Worldwide.
So it wouldn´t be too much of a stretch to suggest that some Azeri Oil money might be involved here........just a thought......Godzvilla!.
p.s....Check out his Azeri dancing 
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/arsenal-legend-tony-adams-doing-5640268
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Matt Collins on May 07, 2015, 05:19:07 PM
I came to the story from the Smith angle, where it suggested Adams was some kind of front man

I don't really get what his role would be and I can't believe he would add anything useful. So not sure if to be concerned, take the whole thing w a pinch of salt, or if the Adams role would be pretty unimportant but it's otherwise got legs in it
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: cdbearsfan on May 07, 2015, 05:19:15 PM
Oh Jesus f**k make it stop. Just when I was starting to enjoy watching Villa again Tony fucking Adams appears from behind a curtain like a coke-addled Wizard of Shit.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: wozwebs on May 07, 2015, 05:26:06 PM
Pat Murphy has some quotes here also: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32627445
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: KRS on May 07, 2015, 05:26:55 PM
The SSN reports are changing tack slightly to be more about Smith than Adams. What do we know about this Mr Smith guy...is it going to end up with a Mr & Mrs shoot out with Angelina Jolie?
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on May 07, 2015, 05:38:59 PM
Smith was sacked by Chelsea back in 2007.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: brian green on May 07, 2015, 05:47:33 PM
In recent months when I have been critical of Randy Lerner, I have been assured by those whose opinions I value that he is a good guy and would never see Villa fall into the hands of chancers, carpet baggers or asset strippers.   I think we are about to find out if that is true.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on May 07, 2015, 06:00:27 PM
If Paul Smith takes over in the next few weeks we might get decent Cup Final suits for the players.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Percy McCarthy on May 07, 2015, 06:04:20 PM
Pretty sure he admitted being a Tory as well so for that reason, and all the others, I'm out.

I think it's odds-on that whoever takes over will be a Tory.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: brian green on May 07, 2015, 06:06:10 PM
Alan Sugar isn't a Tory.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: TheMalandro on May 07, 2015, 06:11:40 PM
I don't see it at all. Although he has a good reputation in the game, he has no real money of his own.
Who would invest? Why do it through him?

We've already proved to be a money pit for one businessman.

Bollocks I reckon.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: passport1 on May 07, 2015, 06:19:08 PM
I thought Fox stated categorically in the Guardian last week that the club was not for sale and he would know if it was.

Maybe I read the wrong narrative.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: brian green on May 07, 2015, 06:21:51 PM
Perhaps passport that meant it was not for sale because it was already sold.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: CT on May 07, 2015, 06:22:15 PM
Why when the feel-good factor has returned are we getting all this shite from Roy Keane and Tony Adams?

I'll be more than happy to see neither of them at Villa Park, ever, thanks.

...unless Keane is on the ITV panel for one of our Champions League games of course.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: manic-road on May 07, 2015, 06:24:05 PM
I hope this story about Donkey has been leaked to get another better possible owner to pull their fingers out and put in a bid for the Villa.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Tayls_7 on May 07, 2015, 06:39:07 PM
I've got stains on my trousers more useful than that dipshit.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Le Lapin on May 07, 2015, 06:40:42 PM
Oh please God no.....
Hope that Randy doesn't throw us to the wolves.


Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: villalion on May 07, 2015, 06:44:50 PM
Oh Jesus f**k make it stop. Just when I was starting to enjoy watching Villa again Tony fucking Adams appears from behind a curtain like a coke-addled Wizard of Shit.

post of the day😅😅😅
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Ron Manager on May 07, 2015, 06:46:46 PM
Why would Tony Adams be brought in 'to work on football related matters?'It doesn't make any kind of sense. The current set up appear to be
extremely good at what they have to do......at all levels.

Apart from which Adams has been out of the game for years.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Legion on May 07, 2015, 06:48:16 PM
Finally! The new owners promised months ago have arrived. The prophecy came true.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: brian green on May 07, 2015, 06:54:24 PM
As I see it, Adams only claim to fame is that he got a shout out in The Full Monty.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Ron Manager on May 07, 2015, 06:56:27 PM
He reminds me a bit of Russell Brand and Paul Elliott in that whenever he speaks he insists on using long complicated words, and everything is so incredibly convoluted.

"Well, in that case, Mr Adams, I hope you will not object if I also offer you my most enthusiastic contrafibularities."

I would think many on here would be frasmotic, even compunctuous to have caused him such pericombobulation.

He'd leave the interview early as well - he never stays for his pendigestatory interludicule.

No need for that kind of talk!
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on May 07, 2015, 07:02:17 PM
I am trying to stay calm and relying on this bollux being complete....bollux!

Not worth more than this post.
If in doubt...f**k 'em!
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Ron Manager on May 07, 2015, 07:02:58 PM
Tony Adams eh..... eyeore, eyeore eyeore to know better!
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: john2710 on May 07, 2015, 07:11:35 PM
File under "Bollocks"
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Richard E on May 07, 2015, 07:15:10 PM
Finally! The new owners promised months ago have arrived. The prophecy came true.

Hallowed be Admin's name.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Clark W Griswold on May 07, 2015, 07:17:07 PM
I think this Smith guy is the main thrust behind it, and that in itself isn't particularly worrying as we know little about him, and there is no evidence to suggest it would be a backward step from Lerner. I do kind of wonder whether someone like this will be much of an upgrade though, not exactly a never ending pit of money I assume, and if his idea of putting 'Legend' Tony Adams as the face of the new regime suggests a similar if not worse judge than Lerner with the McLeish debacle. If he replaces the very promising Sherwood with Adams as manager we could be in for a torrid few years ahead.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: TheMalandro on May 07, 2015, 07:28:58 PM
File under "Bollocks"

The bollocks section is getting a bit big to be called a section
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Boz on May 07, 2015, 07:41:42 PM
I think this Smith guy is the main thrust behind it, and that in itself isn't particularly worrying as we know little about him, and there is no evidence to suggest it would be a backward step from Lerner. I do kind of wonder whether someone like this will be much of an upgrade though, not exactly a never ending pit of money I assume, and if his idea of putting 'Legend' Tony Adams as the face of the new regime suggests a similar if not worse judge than Lerner with the McLeish debacle. If he replaces the very promising Sherwood with Adams as manager we could be in for a torrid few years ahead.

Don't know why Smith wants a twat like Adams as a front man but Smith's not got any big money so all he's doing is trying to put a deal together which will no doubt give him a nice not so little earner. This has all the makings of a lot of aggravation just when the club don't want it. Let's get safe in the league and win the cup first, then worry about new owners.

Adams as a football front man would probably piss Sherwood off as well.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: brian green on May 07, 2015, 07:47:10 PM
If they are serious, somebody somewhere thinks that we could possibly like Adams.   That is what really scares me.   Can you imagine the big cockney plank saying what a proud history we have and what a wonderful place Birmingham is?
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Toronto Villa on May 07, 2015, 07:47:49 PM
My take is that there are always going to be bids that get announced and ultimately not flushed out until we get to the winner. Isn't this the same as what happened prior to Randy buying us? Ranson, that bloke Michael living at his mums semi detached, the barrister bloke. I would naturally hope Randy is getting several parties interested and there is enough intelligence in the room to accept the right bid for the long term future of the club.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on May 07, 2015, 07:48:50 PM
Adams as a football front man is a joke.
Who, in their right mind, would use this massive twat and complete and utter managerial failure as any kind of device to attract....well, anybody, from any walk of life, to do anything?

F**k him.
F**k the whole idea.
It's a load of sh*t!
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: CT on May 07, 2015, 07:49:47 PM
Adams as a football front man is a joke.
Who, in their right mind, would use this massive twat and complete and utter managerial failure as any kind of device to attract....well, anybody, from any walk of life, to do anything?

F**k him.
F**k the whole idea.
It's a load of sh*t!

This. Exactly.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Tokyo Sexwhale on May 07, 2015, 07:52:46 PM
If they are serious, somebody somewhere thinks that we could possibly like Adams.   That is what really scares me.   Can you imagine the big cockney plank saying what a proud history we have and what a wonderful place Birmingham is?

Birminum
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: PeterWithe on May 07, 2015, 08:21:59 PM
What businessman worth his salt needs any kind of 'frontman', let alone Tony Fucking Adams.

Has this c*** got a book out soon as well?
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: SamTheMouse on May 07, 2015, 08:31:22 PM
Just read about this.

All I can say is: fucking hell Randy, please don't go.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: brian green on May 07, 2015, 08:37:05 PM
My son is with my daughter and my son in law getting the vote out in SE London.   I texted him about the alleged Adams take over.   His reply was that the only possible good thing which could come of it would be that we would be able to get served to a beer quicker with him in charge.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Quiet Lion on May 07, 2015, 08:48:23 PM
Adams is a fucking lunatic and I dont want him anywhere near my club.

He is away with the faries these days no chance this could ever happen.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: silhillvilla on May 07, 2015, 08:48:37 PM
Been in back to back meetings all day and come out to this !
WTF !
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on May 07, 2015, 08:59:44 PM
Adams is a fucking lunatic and I dont want him anywhere near my club.

He is away with the faries these days no chance this could ever happen.

Away with the pixies? :)

Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: curiousorange on May 07, 2015, 09:01:09 PM
It's not likely that a takeover will fit the criteria of being 'perfect', such as oil magnates with cash to burn or Red Bull's post-F1 port of call, but is it too much to wish for that it's not some tinpot consortium with more ambition than assets?
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Mister E on May 07, 2015, 09:05:30 PM
File under ' Stalking Horse'.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: ChicagoLion on May 07, 2015, 09:06:04 PM
If any one thinks that Investors would Back Tony Adams with £150million are as Bonkers as Tony Adams.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: TopDeck113 on May 07, 2015, 09:06:45 PM
It's not so much Adams that worries me, but the prospect of some cobbled-together consortium searching down the back of the sofa to find the cash to buy us. Sure for most of us £150 mil is riches beyond our wildest dreams, but in Premier League terms you just know that we still won't have a pot to piss in compared to the oligarchs, sheiks and, dare I say it, the competent American sports team owners.   
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 07, 2015, 09:09:46 PM
Been in back to back meetings all day and come out to this !
WTF !

Congrats on coming out!
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Ron Manager on May 07, 2015, 09:10:54 PM
Perhaps Sol Campbell will front a consortium as well.....if we are lucky!
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: peter w on May 07, 2015, 09:19:18 PM
It's rare that we reach a complete consensus on a topic here on H&V. I reckon that this is the first subject to manage it in a long time.

Actually, no. And when I say no, I mean, yes.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: dave shelley on May 07, 2015, 09:21:20 PM
Just when you think it's safe to stick your head above the parapet...
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: paulcomben on May 07, 2015, 09:53:07 PM
Tony Adams to run #avfc? Ex Spurs manager won't last, but bars will be well stocked. Just need to be wary of other drivers near Villa Park.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Pat McMahon on May 07, 2015, 09:59:03 PM
Pat Murphy seems to think Paul Smith is credible, this bid has been a long time in the offing and that Tony Adams wouldn't get anywhere near the dugout.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: richard moore on May 07, 2015, 10:06:08 PM
Look at it this way, Benteke might finally learn how to play the f*****g offside trap

Every cloud and all that...
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Jimbo on May 07, 2015, 10:07:03 PM
Pat Murphy seems to think Paul Smith is credible, this bid has been a long time in the offing and that Tony Adams wouldn't get anywhere near the dugout.

The dugout? I don't want him getting anywhere near Spaghetti Junction.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Le Lapin on May 07, 2015, 10:13:54 PM
This is starting to get scary.  Please let this be a load of crap. I don't like the thoughts of these guys running our club.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Tony Erdington on May 07, 2015, 10:22:11 PM
FGS, this London based consortium are looking down back of the settee for their stake.

their'll be selling ice cream in hell before these sothern softies get hold of our club.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: silhillvilla on May 07, 2015, 10:31:13 PM
It sometimes takes some stunt like this to smoke out the real interest / shakers & movers.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: silhillvilla on May 07, 2015, 10:33:56 PM
& to be honest, I will be shocked if £150m is the figure.
The club is worth far more than this based on the new TV deal alone.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Lizz on May 07, 2015, 10:35:44 PM
Wish I could find an original way of expressing how this has made me feel, but will have to settle for bertie ollocks to the power of 10.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Des Little on May 07, 2015, 10:41:28 PM
I could bid to buy the club for £150m, trouser the TV money to pay it then keep the rest.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Villa in Denmark on May 07, 2015, 10:42:10 PM
You're missing the winning option on the poll.

I'd rather beat Tony Adams over the head with the bloody end of his arm until he passes out.

Anyone who things that that twat could contribute anything useful to any form of business venture, other than ensuring the boardroom drinks cabinet doesn't get overloaded, is in serious need of a few weeks in Adam's rehab centre.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: cumbriavilla on May 07, 2015, 10:42:28 PM
Is this not just something to unsettle us before the final against Tony Adams favourite team....? Well it won't work!
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Marlon's Hairy Wood on May 07, 2015, 10:44:18 PM
It'd be so Villa to get taken over after being kept up, and then the new regime sack Sherwood and get some turd in
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: silhillvilla on May 07, 2015, 10:48:28 PM
Is this not just something to unsettle us before the final against Tony Adams favourite team....? Well it won't work!
That's the way I see it. It's pathetic and sad. They are running scared.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Des Little on May 07, 2015, 11:15:34 PM
Who in their right mind would choose Tony Adams to front a serious consortium? He's as mad as a March hare. Tell 'em bollocks Randy.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: brontebilly on May 07, 2015, 11:20:44 PM
Tony Adams is the English equivalent of Roy Keane. Great players but completely unsuited to any managerial role. Both are absolute morons
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Billy Walker on May 07, 2015, 11:53:05 PM
If I was working for a year on getting a Villa takeover put together I would be looking to get an ex-Villa player in to be its "face".  The fact that this ex-Chelsea spiv, Smith, thinks its a great idea to use Tony "F*cking" Adams to be his football link-man shows us everything we need to know about the depth and strength of this bid.  Like Ray Ranson ten years ago, this screams of a chancer trying to make a lot of money out of Aston Villa.

To release this news at this stage of the season is also incredibly mischievous.  Are they trying to unsettle the club, the staff and the supporters in order to get a cheaper deal? Hopefully this is all bullshit and genuine, legitimate blue-chip people are working with Tom Fox behind the scenes.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: LTA on May 08, 2015, 12:28:41 AM
The more I read about this, the more uneasy I feel.  It could badly destabilize things just when it appears it was calming down again.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/aston-villas-tim-sherwood-accepts-5655059
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: KRS on May 08, 2015, 12:37:36 AM
If TS keeps us up and wins the FA Cup I think it would be fair to say any new owner would become immediately very unpopular with the fans. I'd say his job is and should be very secure if he achieves either one of those.

edit:
Quote
22:30, 7 May 2015 By James Nursey
...who would have thought it...another negatively spun story about the Villa written by yours truly.  ::)
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: OzVilla on May 08, 2015, 02:22:16 AM
Just seen this thread.

This HAS to be a joke right?  This HAS to be a joke.

The blokes a complete tool.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Hillbilly on May 08, 2015, 02:31:35 AM
Suddenly Ol' Randy don't look so bad eh?
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Louzie0 on May 08, 2015, 02:33:10 AM
It's reflected in the election at the moment. Greed and opportunism rules. If you can, just buy anything on a promise and asset strip to your heart's content. Build for the future when you can get rich now? And, looking after the vulnerable? ' Well, nobody helped me'. No recognition of NHS, equal wages, controlled public rents, Local Authority schools and standards. Apparently, No contest.

Whoever gets the Villa can do whatever they like, if Randy sells. ''Twas ever thus.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Villa in Denmark on May 08, 2015, 06:54:21 AM
He does know you can't pay in carrots?
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Virgil Caine on May 08, 2015, 07:18:25 AM
Above all else I am shocked at the timing of this announcement- I would have thought Lerner would insist on rigid NDA's given the potential effect on Sherwood and subsequently the team. I cannot see any advantage in releasing it now, what value or gain comes from it?
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on May 08, 2015, 07:23:05 AM
I just think of this. Apologies if previously posted, I'm tired.

Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: walsall villain on May 08, 2015, 07:28:32 AM
Above all else I am shocked at the timing of this announcement- I would have thought Lerner would insist on rigid NDA's given the potential effect on Sherwood and subsequently the team. I cannot see any advantage in releasing it now, what value or gain comes from it?
What is the announcement? Isn't it just yet more speculation at the moment?
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Virgil Caine on May 08, 2015, 07:37:23 AM
Fair point WV but discussions ,if they have been held ,have been leaked to the press and I thought there has been time enough for Villa to issue a press statement denying or confirming talks.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: IAmTheOneIanOlney on May 08, 2015, 07:39:49 AM
May have missed it, but don't see it mentioned so far - James Nursey said on TalkSport yesterday that a Chinese consortium are the forerunners to buy Villa and have already been to BH and VP to have a look around.  He then also said they're looking at West Brom as well.

Which is like strolling around the Rolls Royce dealership before buying Auto Trader and looking at the Ladas.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: walsall villain on May 08, 2015, 07:41:36 AM
Fair point WV but discussions ,if they have been held ,have been leaked to the press and I thought there has been time enough for Villa to issue a press statement denying or confirming talks.
So far they haven't commented upon any rumours. The recent interview with Fox seemed to strangely suggest nothing was imminent. I just hope this latest rumour is bollocks I really do.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Ron Manager on May 08, 2015, 08:08:21 AM
If there was anything in this story it would have been kept very quiet. That's how business works. A statement from Villa Park is required I think and today if possible.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: robbo1874 on May 08, 2015, 08:55:04 AM
I know Lerner came out with all that old bollocks about being the custodian of the club etc. but I really wouldn't trust him to do the right thing over a sale. If he got a decent enough offer that would enable him to recoup his initial outlay and a good sized chunk of his operating expenditure over the last 9 years, then I think he'd sell regardless who the buyer or the consortium is.

If i were him (no real connection to the club and getting slated by the fans and media the last few years) why wouldn't you. It would be stupid not to, from a financial perspective.

I really hope there's no legs in this story though- they do sound like an asset stripping outfit. Probably sooner take my chances with the Chinese crowd if I was making the call.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Risso on May 08, 2015, 09:37:53 AM
To be honest why would anybody with sufficient money to buy a Premier League club want to have him as the front man?

That's what I don't get. He's always struck me as being thick as pigshit.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Chris Smith on May 08, 2015, 09:49:09 AM
If this is a runner I will be interested to see how much of a role Adams really has to play. The press have latched on to it as he is the only one with any public profile but are the people putting up all that money really going to trust him with any real responsibility?
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: KRS on May 08, 2015, 09:58:21 AM
Fair point WV but discussions ,if they have been held ,have been leaked to the press and I thought there has been time enough for Villa to issue a press statement denying or confirming talks.
So far they haven't commented upon any rumours. The recent interview with Fox seemed to strangely suggest nothing was imminent. I just hope this latest rumour is bollocks I really do.
My take on it is that this hasn't been leaked by the club, and similarly I haven't read any direct quotes from either Smith or Adams. This is backed up in the Sky article:

Quote
Sky News has learnt that Mr Adams has been working with Paul Smith, a former executive at Chelsea FC and IMG, the sports rights agency, on a possible bid.

Quote
Neither Mr Adams nor Mr Smith could be reached for comment, while BAML declined to comment.

If neither the club or the consortium leaked this information, then who is the source?

Why would Fox comment on a bid that hasn't even been made yet? He can't be expected to comment publicly on every expression of interest as I'm sure that would be breach of confidentiality.

edit:
Obviously the media are going to be all over it if a sale of a Premier League club is linked to a well known London based English footballer...whether you like him or not, Tony Adams is a high profile London based ex-footballer, so the media will report it regardless of the facts.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Billy Walker on May 08, 2015, 10:03:03 AM
Above all else I am shocked at the timing of this announcement- I would have thought Lerner would insist on rigid NDA's given the potential effect on Sherwood and subsequently the team. I cannot see any advantage in releasing it now, what value or gain comes from it?

You're right - which suggests this "bid" has little credibility, hopefully.  I remember reading up on football takeovers last year when all the rumours about Randy wanting to sell Villa first started.  The gist of what I read was that you will never hear anything about a serious, genuine, takeover until it has actually happened.  It's possible that Adams and Smith are simply using the Villa situation to get their ideas into the media, hoping that some desperate club will come to them for funding. 
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: PaulWinch again on May 08, 2015, 10:10:07 AM
From the, albeit limited, information that's come about this bid at the moment it sounds like they're pretty short of cash.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Clark W Griswold on May 08, 2015, 10:28:34 AM
Not sure I'm particularly keen on the idea of the Chinese taking over either to be honest.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: ktvillan on May 08, 2015, 10:36:19 AM
To be honest why would anybody with sufficient money to buy a Premier League club want to have him as the front man?

That's what I don't get. He's always struck me as being thick as pigshit.

The credentials of the group look reasonably impressive, until Adams is mentioned, wherein all credibility goes up in smoke.  He's failed as a manager and spouts a constant stream of self promoting garbage.  There's two good reasons why he's been struggling to get  back into football and it's hard to believe that a serious group of money men would shoot themselves in the foot by associating themselves with such a ridiculous figure.  Having said that, the last time I thought a rumour was far too ridiculous to give any credence to was the one about Lerner wanting TSM as manager....   
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on May 08, 2015, 10:41:24 AM
Not sure I'm particularly keen on the idea of the Chinese taking over either to be honest.

Me neither, look what happened over the road
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: OzVilla on May 08, 2015, 10:41:33 AM
If this is a runner I will be interested to see how much of a role Adams really has to play. The press have latched on to it as he is the only one with any public profile but are the people putting up all that money really going to trust him with any real responsibility?

Hopefully, the same sort of influence that Steve McMannaman had when he was involved in the our favourite hairdressers takeover of the Sty.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: warleyboy on May 08, 2015, 11:54:28 AM
Hope the holte get there opinions across Saturday about the proposed donkey takeover. :o
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: tom jennings III on May 08, 2015, 12:40:05 PM
Not sure I'm particularly keen on the idea of the Chinese taking over either to be honest.

Me neither, look what happened over the road

Look what happened in Tibet! Not sure which of these two rumours would be worse.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Pat McMahon on May 08, 2015, 01:40:16 PM
Not sure I'm particularly keen on the idea of the Chinese taking over either to be honest.

We would probably have to change the club crest to a dragon......

I have spoken to people in China and they have heard nowt about this rumour, though they point out that unless it were Man U or Liverpool it wouldn't be really high profile news anyway.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: fbriai on May 08, 2015, 01:49:10 PM
So, theoretically, if I contact Bank of America Merrill Lynch, or whatever they are called, and tell them I'm interested in buying the club and am drumming up funds, then come back on here and start asking you all for a whip round, there will be a few articles in the rags saying that there is some interest from a mysterious Italian-based investor?
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: martin o`who?? on May 08, 2015, 01:53:30 PM
No,NoNo FuckingwellNOOOO!!!!
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: fbriai on May 08, 2015, 01:54:17 PM
I'll take that as a 'no', then.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: martin o`who?? on May 08, 2015, 01:59:36 PM
On a serious note, as a club we have to move on from RL, and probably have little say on who buys us, while the injection of new money (hopefully) is welcome, the make up of this bid - if it exists - worries me, i can see Adams meddling in team affairs and Sherwood, understandably, taking issue with it. Gentlemen and ladies, enjoy these precious moments of stability because this could wreck everything.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: PaulWinch again on May 08, 2015, 02:26:02 PM
To be honest why would anybody with sufficient money to buy a Premier League club want to have him as the front man?

That's what I don't get. He's always struck me as being thick as pigshit.

The credentials of the group look reasonably impressive, until Adams is mentioned, wherein all credibility goes up in smoke.  He's failed as a manager and spouts a constant stream of self promoting garbage.  There's two good reasons why he's been struggling to get  back into football and it's hard to believe that a serious group of money men would shoot themselves in the foot by associating themselves with such a ridiculous figure.  Having said that, the last time I thought a rumour was far too ridiculous to give any credence to was the one about Lerner wanting TSM as manager....   

I think the most worrying credential is the lack of obvious funding. Edit - Other than the wisdom of wanting Tony Adams involved of course. 
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: olaftab on May 08, 2015, 02:48:59 PM
I am setting up a consortium and have appointed Merchant Brothers, the well known takeover specialists in Corporate Banking to raise funds. We have reasonable  self funded equity and  aim is to raise the balance of £159,999,990 through Merchant Brothers. Can't see any problem is completing the purchase any day soon.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Dr Butler on May 08, 2015, 02:55:18 PM
I am setting up a consortium and have appointed Merchant Brothers, the well known takeover specialists in Corporate Banking to raise funds. We have reasonable  self funded equity and  aim is to raise the balance of £159,999,990 through Merchant Brothers. Can't see any problem is completing the purchase any day soon.

I'd help mate, but I've just renewed my season ticket and I need to buy a ticket, a foam finger and a half and half scarf for the FA Cup final....

good luck though

UTV
The Doc
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on May 08, 2015, 05:17:15 PM
The self proclaimed Modfather 'Mr Football' Smith I think was acting CEO at Chelsea whilst Kenyon had his gardening leave from the Plastics. The fact that he never managed to get himself a contract says everything you need to know. He then tried to take Chelsea to court after the sacked him and despite claiming millions in compensation, he walked away with a bag of magic beans.

Maybe Randy is going to try a similar trick and take £150m off Smith and then tell him to do one. That would certainly give us a healthy transfer budget for the summer.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Tokyo Sexwhale on May 08, 2015, 06:19:44 PM
Tony Adams must be involved just to generate publicity/interest - I'd doubt Paul Smith is a big enough name to generate it on his own; as it is we've already got 13 pages here, it's all over the sports media and was trending on Twitter on the day of the General Election.

Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Toronto Villa on May 08, 2015, 06:51:29 PM
If you are trying drive awareness for the legitimacy of a bid and add any degree of credibility to it, the very last person I would want being the face of the bid is that fucking div.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: PaulWinch again on May 08, 2015, 08:44:41 PM
Yes Tony Adams as a choice to gain publicity would be one of my last choices. I would seriously question the judgement of any consortium who wants that fucking idiot involved.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Steve67 on May 08, 2015, 08:46:06 PM
Been to jail, former alcoholic, failed manager. The face of a takeover?  Yeah, right.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: silhillvilla on May 08, 2015, 08:49:19 PM
Did date caprice though to add some balance.
Not that I want him anywhere near our club.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: pauliewalnuts on May 09, 2015, 12:26:54 AM
Did date caprice though to add some balance.
Not that I want him anywhere near our club.

Imagine the level of conversation Chez Adams when he'd have Caprice round for the night.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: cdbearsfan on May 09, 2015, 12:49:27 AM
I imagine it was mostly snorting sounds.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: robbo1874 on May 09, 2015, 04:06:36 AM
He veers to the left,
He swerves to the right,
You're a pissed up donkey and your driving is shite.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Mister E on May 09, 2015, 08:20:09 AM
File under ' Stalking Horse'.

probably should have said 'Stalking Donkey' ...
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: olaftab on May 09, 2015, 08:31:08 AM
I am setting up a consortium and have appointed Merchant Brothers, the well known takeover specialists in Corporate Banking to raise funds. We have reasonable  self funded equity and  aim is to raise the balance of £159,999,990 through Merchant Brothers. Can't see any problem is completing the purchase any day soon.

I'd help mate, but I've just renewed my season ticket and I need to buy a ticket, a foam finger and a half and half scarf for the FA Cup final....

good luck though

UTV
The Doc
OK I will advise Merchant Brothers not to approach your people however it looks as though you have spread your funds wisely. Just to update the forum my appointed Corporate Bankers are making good progress in securing the deal. For example yesterday they had a team working on phoning the ticket office and by the end they were getting through in less than 10 mins.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Chris Smith on May 09, 2015, 08:49:26 AM
Tony Adams talks bollocks and takes himself far too seriously so I really I hope he is never in a position of influence at the Villa. That said, the one thing he shouldn't be mocked over is his alcoholism and subsequent recovery; quite the opposite in fact.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: edgysatsuma89 on May 09, 2015, 09:26:32 AM
The sober c**t.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Chris Smith on May 09, 2015, 10:09:35 AM
The sober c**t.

That's more like it.

I don't like to sound like a pious preachy type but have known a couple of people go through serious addiction (one successfully, the other not) and so have seen what a battle it is and admire the life long effort and commitment involved.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: SamTheMouse on May 09, 2015, 10:30:35 AM
Unnamed Chinese investors or Tony Adams and some bloke who makes nice suits.

It's like being asked which of your legs you'd rather have amputated.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: edgysatsuma89 on May 09, 2015, 01:04:17 PM
The sober c**t.

That's more like it.

I don't like to sound like a pious preachy type but have known a couple of people go through serious addiction (one successfully, the other not) and so have seen what a battle it is and admire the life long effort and commitment involved.

I know what you're saying, my dad is unfortunately an alcoholic.

I'll just take the piss out of his face. I mean ... Wow. Him and Winterburn in a back line? They wouldn't have gotten too much poontang without their massive wallets.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: SoccerHQ on May 09, 2015, 07:46:03 PM
This little snippet is interesting.

Quote
Former Chelsea executive Paul Smith, sacked in 2007 after a pre-season club tour, is an unlikely leader of the consortium attempting to buy Aston Villa. And Smith will need to raise more than £150million to mount a takeover bid.
Seller Randy Lerner, who is including his £3.5m Warwickshire country pad in the sale, wants another £50m on top to be made available for new signings. Meanwhile, such is Lerner’s detachment from Villa it’s not certain he will fly from California, where he is spending time painting, for the FA Cup final

I presume that dosen't include Benteke being sold at any point.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: LTA on May 09, 2015, 08:01:17 PM
This little snippet is interesting.

Quote
Former Chelsea executive Paul Smith, sacked in 2007 after a pre-season club tour, is an unlikely leader of the consortium attempting to buy Aston Villa. And Smith will need to raise more than £150million to mount a takeover bid.
Seller Randy Lerner, who is including his £3.5m Warwickshire country pad in the sale, wants another £50m on top to be made available for new signings. Meanwhile, such is Lerner’s detachment from Villa it’s not certain he will fly from California, where he is spending time painting, for the FA Cup final

I presume that dosen't include Benteke being sold at any point.

I presume Lerner thinks Lambert is still here if he'd rather paint something than come over for final.

Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: dave shelley on May 09, 2015, 08:02:09 PM
What's he painting? the Golden Gate Bridge?
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: silhillvilla on May 09, 2015, 08:03:47 PM
Sounds like his mid-life crisis has gone to another level.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: nigel on May 09, 2015, 08:04:20 PM
A friend who works at VP was saying that there was a Chinese delegation there today.
Whether this has anything to do with a take over is anyones guess, but as a Chinese takeover has been rumoured it might have.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: pauliewalnuts on May 09, 2015, 08:04:54 PM
This little snippet is interesting.

Quote
Former Chelsea executive Paul Smith, sacked in 2007 after a pre-season club tour, is an unlikely leader of the consortium attempting to buy Aston Villa. And Smith will need to raise more than £150million to mount a takeover bid.
Seller Randy Lerner, who is including his £3.5m Warwickshire country pad in the sale, wants another £50m on top to be made available for new signings. Meanwhile, such is Lerner’s detachment from Villa it’s not certain he will fly from California, where he is spending time painting, for the FA Cup final

I presume that dosen't include Benteke being sold at any point.

Crikey.

If he doesn't come over for the final, that's a pretty impressive level of detachment we're talking about.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: pauliewalnuts on May 09, 2015, 08:05:36 PM
A friend who works at VP was saying that there was a Chinese delegation there today.
Whether this has anything to do with a take over is anyones guess, but as a Chinese takeover has been rumoured it might have.

If it is like the time those "visiting Arabs" were spotted, this lot will actually be the regional managers from Wing Yip.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: nigel on May 09, 2015, 08:10:39 PM
A friend who works at VP was saying that there was a Chinese delegation there today.
Whether this has anything to do with a take over is anyones guess, but as a Chinese takeover has been rumoured it might have.

If it is like the time those "visiting Arabs" were spotted, this lot will actually be the regional managers from Wing Yip.

LOL, You could be right,
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: SoccerHQ on May 09, 2015, 08:16:38 PM
I saw a few coming out of the club shop but they looked more like fans who wanted their "premier league footy and half and half scarves" fix.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Sheldon_Villa on May 11, 2015, 02:54:58 PM
What's he painting? the Golden Gate Bridge?
The spare room.
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Grande Pablo on May 12, 2015, 10:39:59 PM
2 more interested parties, apparently.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/aston-villa/11600800/Aston-Villa-takeover-goes-up-a-gear-as-two-more-buyers-lodge-bids.html
Title: Re: Tony Adams Fronted Takeover
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on May 12, 2015, 10:53:17 PM
John Percy certainly seems to be our messenger of choice.
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