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Heroes & Villains => Villa Memories => Topic started by: SoccerHQ on November 02, 2014, 06:56:21 PM
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Well today the feeling of sick in the pit of my stomach has returned after a defeat. It was that sort of game.
The previous defeats we've had I've just shrugged off as for example Everton are just a better team than we are so you just accept those defeats in a 38 game season, I don't see the point in getting pissed off at those sort of games anymore. QPR we were just inept for the most part.
This one though was different. The way we lost, the team we lost to (who were total shite), the decisions, the overall malaise we continue to be in season in season out.
What other defeats have made you close to being physically sick afterwards?
2010 cup final was an obvious one. Another one that sticks in my mind was ironically against Spurs, another 2-1 home defeat in March 2009, I knew straight after that game we wouldn't be finishing top 4 that season. Different times though and what I'd give for that now.
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Man Utd 2-3 cup defeat when that horse faced twat came on and ran riot. Went straight home and started a family row, didn't speak to my sister for 2 months.
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Although not a defeat, the Stoke 2-2 still sticks in the memory.
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Although not a defeat, the Stoke 2-2 still sticks in the memory.
Same for the 2-2 at VP against THAT lot.
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Man Utd 2-3 cup defeat when that horse faced twat came on and ran riot. Went straight home and started a family row, didn't speak to my sister for 2 months.
Yeah that was another one you could write a horror book with all the various calamities we've had against Man. United in the last 15 years.
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Although not a defeat, the Stoke 2-2 still sticks in the memory.
Same for the 2-2 at VP against THAT lot.
And the 2-3 from a couple of seasons ago.
EDIT: You're on about Small Heath aren't you? I thought you meant Newton.
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Although not a defeat, the Stoke 2-2 still sticks in the memory.
Same for the 2-2 at VP against THAT lot.
And the 2-3 from a couple of seasons ago.
EDIT: You're on about Small Heath aren't you? I thought you meant Newton.
I was indeed on about the small variety of Heath.
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Man Utd 2-3 cup defeat when that horse faced twat came on and ran riot. Went straight home and started a family row, didn't speak to my sister for 2 months.
2 - 2 v blose on 04 after their late equaliser. Felt like a defeat.
Like you went home and had a blazing row with the wife. WE had to go out for a prearranged meal that evening and ended up travelling separately
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SHQ with another memory lane misery thread...I just can't take it anymore.
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Rapid Vienna (twice) and Trabzonspor really really pissed me off at the time.
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Although not a defeat, the Stoke 2-2 still sticks in the memory.
The 4-4 against Leicester under Sir Brian, and the 4-4 against Spuds under that cockweasel O'Neill as well.
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The Macheda game at Old Trafford was a sickener.
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The Macheda game at Old Trafford was a sickener.
Yep, one of the worst.
As was the aforementioned Stoke 2-2. The moment our future went from 'bright' to 'shit'.
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This today has really got me down. It's the first game in a long time I've actually felt this annoyed with the outcome. I'd say the last one was throwing away that lead against Stoke.
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20 years ago next week, November 9 1994, 3-1 up away at Wimbledon in the last quarter and lost 3-4. BFR sacked the next day. I was at Selhurst Park to collect my wrenched gut.
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Well today the feeling of sick in the pit of my stomach has returned after a defeat. It was that sort of game.
The previous defeats we've had I've just shrugged off as for example Everton are just a better team than we are so you just accept those defeats in a 38 game season, I don't see the point in getting pissed off at those sort of games anymore. QPR we were just inept for the most part.
This one though was different. The way we lost, the team we lost to (who were total shite), the decisions, the overall malaise we continue to be in season in season out.
What other defeats have made you close to being physically sick afterwards?
2010 cup final was an obvious one. Another one that sticks in my mind was ironically against Spurs, another 2-1 home defeat in March 2009, I knew straight after that game we wouldn't be finishing top 4 that season. Different times though and what I'd give for that now.
Today's game was very similar to the Chelsea game at home towards the end of Lambert's first season. We played well that day and Benteke looked a real threat. As a result, Chelsea succeeded (Terry in particular) in getting Benteke sent off and then went on to score two late goals to win the game.
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Today wasn't gut-wrenching. Today was as predictable as tomorrow being Monday. I'm sorry to piss on the thread, because I've got plenty of occasions when the Villa have inflicted that on me, but Villa 2014? Sorry, giving away two goals in the last ten minutes against a poor Spurs side is about par for the course.
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Today wasn't gut-wrenching. Today was as predictable as tomorrow being Monday. I'm sorry to piss on the thread, because I've got plenty of occasions when the Villa have inflicted that on me, but Villa 2014? Sorry, giving away two goals in the last ten minutes against a poor Spurs side is about par for the course.
It's the hope that kills you. Today to me is ten times worse than Everton away in my mind where we were never in it from start to finish so after watching us for over 15 years now I've learnt to just shrug off those defeats and not get worked out about it.
This though was a combination of it all, the hope of winning and maybe just hanging on to get some points, the ridiculous run of ref decisions we got at 1-0 and then finding a way to lose with six minutes left.
I've seen it all before but still dosen't stop hurting in the hours afterwards.
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Today wasn't gut-wrenching. Today was as predictable as tomorrow being Monday. I'm sorry to piss on the thread, because I've got plenty of occasions when the Villa have inflicted that on me, but Villa 2014? Sorry, giving away two goals in the last ten minutes against a poor Spurs side is about par for the course.
This game is all about opinions and I have to disagree with the above. We were the better team and in control, if the referee had sent off Vertongen for that reckless challenge then all the spiteful challenges wouldn't have happened which culminated in the Benteke incident. The referee lost control of the game and with it we lost a player. There was nothing predictable about this result given the performance we put in.
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Although not a defeat, the Stoke 2-2 still sticks in the memory.
The 4-4 against Leicester under Sir Brian, and the 4-4 against Spuds under that cockweasel O'Neill as well.
MON sent Marlon Harewood on to protect the lead, and his idea of doing so was that wonderful tackle on the Spurs attacker who had his back to the goal. Smashing stuff.
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Bolton 2-1 at home a couple of years ago. Up til that point I never thought we'd go down but after that I was convinced we would. The way we chucked that game as well left a horrendous feeling.
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Although not a defeat, the Stoke 2-2 still sticks in the memory.
The 4-4 against Leicester under Sir Brian, and the 4-4 against Spuds under that cockweasel O'Neill as well.
MON sent Marlon Harewood on to protect the lead, and his idea of doing so was that wonderful tackle on the Spurs attacker who had his back to the goal. Smashing stuff.
Harewood did a wonderful impression of this that nite:
(http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100314150933/tmnt/de/images/4/44/Krang_android.jpg)
Minus the brain.
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Although not a defeat, the Stoke 2-2 still sticks in the memory.
The 4-4 against Leicester under Sir Brian, and the 4-4 against Spuds under that cockweasel O'Neill as well.
MON sent Marlon Harewood on to protect the lead, and his idea of doing so was that wonderful tackle on the Spurs attacker who had his back to the goal. Smashing stuff.
Equiliser scored by Younes Kaboul back in the day when he was a promising young defender, rather than a shit, older defender.
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There must be fucking hundreds of them.
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Dowd not sending off Vidic always pisses me right off.
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That bastard streak of piss scuffing one late for the rags in the League Cup when Houllier was manager.
If he'd made clean contact it would have ended up at Cambabest over the road, the fuckers hadn't laid a glove on us all night and we should have smashed them, instead they spunk their way through to win it.
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That bastard streak of piss scuffing one late for the rags in the League Cup when Houllier was manager.
If he'd made clean contact it would have ended up at Cambabest over the road, the fuckers hadn't laid a glove on us all night and we should have smashed them, instead they spunk their way through to win it.
My memory of that game is that the Blose deserved to win.
They played well in the semi to beat West Ham as well. Credit where its deserved even for the scum
F in lucky against Arsenal though!
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That bastard streak of piss scuffing one late for the rags in the League Cup when Houllier was manager.
If he'd made clean contact it would have ended up at Cambabest over the road, the fuckers hadn't laid a glove on us all night and we should have smashed them, instead they spunk their way through to win it.
My memory of that game is that the Blose deserved to win.
They played well in the semi to beat West Ham as well. Credit where its deserved even for the scum
F in lucky against Arsenal though!
Lay off the crack, brother.
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I don't think I have ever been so angry after a game as the Stoke 2-2. They were the poorest sides we have ever played a league game against at Villa Park and they were dead and burried.
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Any time we lose.
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The FA cup game at OT where we held out manfully until the goalie Kirali? Decided to jump over the ball in the last minute.
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I remember another game against Spurs in the O'Leary season where we could have gone down.
Allback scored the opener but they came back and Rohan Ricketts scored a lucky effort from near the touchline.
That game reminded me of today's.
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We've had so many of these occasions in the last ten years or so I've come to expect them now. We are bottlers by nature.
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This was very bad in terms of hurt. Almost as bad as all the manu reversals we have had at Villa Park however more gut wrenching because of the unfairness. Unfair that Spurs should have had both Vertonghen and Mason sent off. Unfair at that cruel deflection that took the ball away from Guzan as he moved left to catch it.
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Man United cup loss 2002, Man United in the Final 2014, Man United at home in Lambert's first season, Man United everytime we've played them since 1995 bar two wins. Wimbledon away 1994-95 season. Arsenal at home 1996, we threw away a 2 goal lead and were denied top spot. Chelsea 8-0 Villa. Shit theres too many of them.
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I don't think I have ever been so angry after a game as the Stoke 2-2. They were the poorest sides we have ever played a league game against at Villa Park and they were dead and burried.
That game, alongside the signing of Heskey, heralded the end of the Brave New World under Lerner in my humble opinion.
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Every other gut wrench pales into insignificance alongside the FA Cup Final 2000 for me.
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The Man U cup game and the derby with the last minute equaliser already mentioned were dark, very dark. This thread's actually cheering me up as it shows that I do get over these things eventually. All that's needed is time and electro convulsive therapy.
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The 4-4 MNF at spurs was gut wrenching having lead 4-1 and taking the piss out of spurs with the happy birthday to you chants and have that tossed back at you .
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Losing 2-1 at the Hawthorns in 1984 after being 1-0 up with 3 minutes to go - Carl Valentine FFS, what made it worse was that I was in the Brummie Road End too.
03-03-03. Horrible, poisonous experience in every possible way.
FA Cup QF away at 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' in 92. Referee in their pocket again.
FA Cup QF away at Oldham in 90. GT mark1 brain fade game.
Losing 3-0 in the San Siro in 1990. Cheating bastards.
Losing away at Norwich in the run in in March 93. Played them off the park and lost.
Losing at home to Oldham in final home game the same season - not that we're favourites to win the League by then of course, far from it, but it just confirmed that we wouldn't be winning it (I'd been in complete denial) and were now handing Sky the victory they so desperately wanted. The Theatre of fecking Dreams was born!! I remember going straight home (no pub) and out for a walk after this match - I felt devastated.
And finally....... FA Cup Final 2000 - felt worse than all of the above combined.
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The 2 2 Stoke will always be the worst for me because it heralded the end of all our dreams.
The 0 1 defeat to Millwall in the Cup is another horrible memory. Firstly because I shall take to my grave the belief that we had at least one player on the pitch that night with money on a Millwall win and also because, within two minutes walk of my son's house, he and I were kettled into that spiked railings stalag for away fans at their contemptible ground, in temperatures of minus 5 ( I truly thought I was going to die) for an hour while the cockney madmen were allowed to leave the ground and still ambush two coach loads of Villa fans. From the stalag we were forced by the police to travel to London Bridge where we had to wait half an hour for a train to take us back to where we came from two minutes from my son's house. That one sticks in my mind.
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West Ham away 1981 FA cup
Trabsponsor at home
Bradford
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Any time we lose.
Definitely agree with this.
This morning was bad. I was in the gym and the NZ morning news said we were winning 1-0. I then saw Sky News on another channel and even though the sound was down you could see the Spurzzz players celebrating and I just knew we had blown it.
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The Bradford semi final for me is the worst in recent memory. I was in oz for the couple of Wembley trips a couple of years back and had been hoping to go there (new Wembley) for the first time with the Villa (having not been at all since '96, I was working for the Chelsea final). We got great seats, I took the missus, all the family, we had a great couple of beers in the uni bar before, everything was alligned....then Villa managed to produce the shittest, most inept display I can remember. That was the day I lost faith in Lambert. If he goes next week this is the reason I wont feel bad for him.
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3-0 defeat Boxing Day 1982. The European champions had their arses handed to them by that lot down the road.
0-3 Wimbledon 1990 - 3 days after a magnificent win at Spurs, we royally fuck it up and then go on a run that sees us blow the league title.
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Bolton semi
Bradford semi
Yesterday
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Also, the non event at Wembley 2000
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The home league defeat to Oldham, 1992.
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fa cup final for me
Last time I cried
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Blackburn 3-0 Villa - 1993, that signalled the end of our Title challenge; I think Man Utd won at Palace that night as well. I was at Ewood that night and it was a very quiet journey back down the M6.
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The 4-4 MNF at spurs was gut wrenching having lead 4-1 and taking the piss out of spurs with the happy birthday to you chants and have that tossed back at you .
Too right. It was so beautiful when it looked like we were going to piss all over their birthday celebrations...
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Blackburn at home 1997-98. Collymore's home debut and they destroyed us. Had so much optimism going into that season and the bubble was burst by four defeats in a row.
Wimbledon away in the League Cup 1996
Palace away in the League Cup 1994. Both visits to Selhurst we were defending the cup and we lost both. To be fair we played well vs the Dons and did everything bar put the ball in the next whereas Palace smashed us - this at a time when they couldn't hit the proverbial barn door in the league. We did get revenge vs Wimbledon about 2 weeks later by thrashing them 5-0 but the Palace defeat really smarted for quite a while.
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Blackburn at home 1997-98. Collymore's home debut and they destroyed us. Had so much optimism going into that season and the bubble was burst by four defeats in a row.
Wimbledon away in the League Cup 1996
Palace away in the League Cup 1994. Both visits to Selhurst we were defending the cup and we lost both. To be fair we played well vs the Dons and did everything bar put the ball in the next whereas Palace smashed us - this at a time when they couldn't hit the proverbial barn door in the league. We did get revenge vs Wimbledon about 2 weeks later by thrashing them 5-0 but the Palace defeat really smarted for quite a while.
I was so excited about Collymore's home debut. I was at Leicester the week before, where they beat us 1-0.
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League Cup Semi v Leicester 1999/2000. We could have done the bloody double that year.
Bradford 2012 - enough said.
Losing to Coventry in the FA Cup - 1998.
Man Utd Away 2009 3-2 We were robbed there. Still have flashbacks of Gabby and Young repeatedly beating the off-side trap, only for the linesman to repeatedly flag for offside.
Small Heath 2-2 2004. That Stern John equalizer at the end felt like a defeat.
Coventry 1993 - drawing 0-0 then hearing that Man Utd had scored 2 goals in 7 minutes of injury time.
Bolton 2011 - Like everybody else, I thought we'd been relegated.
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Losing 1-0 at home to Wolves under Houllier. It's the only time in the last few years where I really did think we would be relegated.
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Getting knocked out by Bradford in 2012. A one off game against a lower league side you can just about take because it happens but over two legs was ridiculous.
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The FA cup QF 0-1 loss in 1980 at west ham last min pen. I think I went to sleep crying .
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The FA cup QF 0-1 loss in 1980 at west ham last min pen. I think I went to sleep crying .
I watched the highlights on You Tube the other week and the sense of injustice was still burning in me. I know it was only the quarter final but I reckon that must have been one of our best chances of winning the FA Cup in my lifetime.
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The 2-1 home defeat against Ipswich in the Championship season. I really thought we'd blown it.
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The 2-1 home defeat against Ipswich in the Championship season. I really thought we'd blown it. :)
"did you want to bet against us" ???????????????
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2-3 against Arsenal at the Emirates, 2-0 up at half time, celebrations below resembled VE day.
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Drawing 1-1 home to Baggies when Paul Robinson scored a last minute headed equaliser a few years back.
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Man City grabbing a late equalizer at home in the FA Cup, we were live on the BBC, Baros scored from one of our only decent moves of the night and even then we couldn't see it out and conceded the typical 90th minute goal - Micah Richards was it? Naturally we got tonked in the replay when Darius Vassell was in that spell of scoring everytime he played against us.
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Losing 2-1 at the Hawthorns in 1984 after being 1-0 up with 3 minutes to go - Carl Valentine FFS, what made it worse was that I was in the Brummie Road End too.
03-03-03. Horrible, poisonous experience in every possible way.
FA Cup QF away at 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' in 92. Referee in their pocket again.
FA Cup QF away at Oldham in 90. GT mark1 brain fade game.
Losing 3-0 in the San Siro in 1990. Cheating bastards.
Losing away at Norwich in the run in in March 93. Played them off the park and lost.
Losing at home to Oldham in final home game the same season - not that we're favourites to win the League by then of course, far from it, but it just confirmed that we wouldn't be winning it (I'd been in complete denial) and were now handing Sky the victory they so desperately wanted. The Theatre of fecking Dreams was born!! I remember going straight home (no pub) and out for a walk after this match - I felt devastated.
And finally....... FA Cup Final 2000 - felt worse than all of the above combined.
Are you sure that first one at albion was 2-1? I have a recollection of us leading 1-0 with not long to go and they scored 3 to win 3-1.
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6 Nov 2010 Fulham 1-1 Villa
Equaliser scored in 90+5
Worse than any defeat I've ever witnessed
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Losing 2-1 at the Hawthorns in 1984 after being 1-0 up with 3 minutes to go - Carl Valentine FFS, what made it worse was that I was in the Brummie Road End too.
03-03-03. Horrible, poisonous experience in every possible way.
FA Cup QF away at 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' in 92. Referee in their pocket again.
FA Cup QF away at Oldham in 90. GT mark1 brain fade game.
Losing 3-0 in the San Siro in 1990. Cheating bastards.
Losing away at Norwich in the run in in March 93. Played them off the park and lost.
Losing at home to Oldham in final home game the same season - not that we're favourites to win the League by then of course, far from it, but it just confirmed that we wouldn't be winning it (I'd been in complete denial) and were now handing Sky the victory they so desperately wanted. The Theatre of fecking Dreams was born!! I remember going straight home (no pub) and out for a walk after this match - I felt devastated.
And finally....... FA Cup Final 2000 - felt worse than all of the above combined.
Are you sure that first one at albion was 2-1? I have a recollection of us leading 1-0 with not long to go and they scored 3 to win 3-1.
It was 3-1. I was there with my Dad. We were all over them and they somehow scored 3 in the last 6 minutes. Plus ca change...
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Losing 3-0 in the San Siro in 1990. Cheating bastards.
I thought of this one today. I was a nipper at the time but it's the only time I remember crying over the Villa. As you say, cheating bastards.
Beating Atletico Madrid 2-1 and getting knocked out was pretty gut wrenching too. Especially as we had them on the ropes when Stanley Victor scored but then resorted to 20 minutes of long ball.
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Did they cheat in the 0-3 in San siro ? All I recall really was us freezing
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Christ, wish I'd not looked at this thread - I'd just about managed to banish that FA Cup final from my memory again.
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Losing 1-0 at home to Wolves under Houllier. It's the only time in the last few years where I really did think we would be relegated.
Even with some stiff competition since, that's still one of the worst Villa games I can remember in recent times. Dreadful from start to finish.
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The FA cup QF 0-1 loss in 1980 at west ham last min pen. I think I went to sleep crying .
I watched the highlights on You Tube the other week and the sense of injustice was still burning in me. I know it was only the quarter final but I reckon that must have been one of our best chances of winning the FA Cup in my lifetime.
I was at that game, and it certainly was a hard one to take.
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Did they cheat in the 0-3 in San siro ? All I recall really was us freezing
The ball for their third went over the byline before the cross came in.
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Did they cheat in the 0-3 in San siro ? All I recall really was us freezing
Apart from the ball being nearly in the car park before being crossed for the first goal.......
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...or third goal, can't remember........
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Man City grabbing a late equalizer at home in the FA Cup, we were live on the BBC, Baros scored from one of our only decent moves of the night and even then we couldn't see it out and conceded the typical 90th minute goal - Micah Richards was it? Naturally we got tonked in the replay when Darius Vassell was in that spell of scoring everytime he played against us.
Was that the game when Richards did a bad swear in the interview afterwards?
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Yeah, and he was something like fourteen years old at the time.
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League Cup semi-final against Bolton in '04 pissed me off, only being 12 at the time. The 2010 Final is an obvious one as well.
And most games in the 2009 season run in, especially the run where we were knocked out of UEFA and FA Cups and lose to Chelsea in about a week
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Losing 2-1 at the Hawthorns in 1984 after being 1-0 up with 3 minutes to go - Carl Valentine FFS, what made it worse was that I was in the Brummie Road End too.
03-03-03. Horrible, poisonous experience in every possible way.
FA Cup QF away at 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' in 92. Referee in their pocket again.
FA Cup QF away at Oldham in 90. GT mark1 brain fade game.
Losing 3-0 in the San Siro in 1990. Cheating bastards.
Losing away at Norwich in the run in in March 93. Played them off the park and lost.
Losing at home to Oldham in final home game the same season - not that we're favourites to win the League by then of course, far from it, but it just confirmed that we wouldn't be winning it (I'd been in complete denial) and were now handing Sky the victory they so desperately wanted. The Theatre of fecking Dreams was born!! I remember going straight home (no pub) and out for a walk after this match - I felt devastated.
And finally....... FA Cup Final 2000 - felt worse than all of the above combined.
Are you sure that first one at albion was 2-1? I have a recollection of us leading 1-0 with not long to go and they scored 3 to win 3-1.
It was 3-1. I was there with my Dad. We were all over them and they somehow scored 3 in the last 6 minutes. Plus ca change...
Yes that's right, my mistake. It was 3-1.
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Tony Morley was playing for them and I remember him getting a right hard time when he came down our end to take a corner.
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...or third goal, can't remember........
It was the 3rd. Kinsman got their 1st early doors.
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6 Nov 2010 Fulham 1-1 Villa
Equaliser scored in 90+5
Worse than any defeat I've ever witnessed
I was at that game and Albrighton was a muppet giving away a free kick at the death. But their similarly late equaliser when JPA missed two penalties around 2004 was far worse. And neither would get in my top ten gut wrenchers - am too pained to list them here. This is no conversation for a Monday - needs to be a boozy Friday night topic....
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Also, the non event at Wembley 2000
That never happened.
Spartak Moscow, Arsenal FA Cup quarter-final, Oldham FA Cup quarter-final, Oldham in 89-90, Inter the season after, Charlton 86-87, any time The Shit beat us, 3-1 against the Albion in circa 84, Leicester in the League Cup semis,Villa 1 Ipswich 2, Bradford, At Madrid, Tranzonspor, Man u 3-2 (x2) and 2-3, could go on...
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Boxing Day 1982 and Charlton 1987.
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The season we were relegated to division three. We played Sheffield United up there and the half time score was 0-0, we were playing quite well and I thought we were on for an away point which would have been precious. Final score...United 5 Villa 0! I came home realising that even though it was November, we'd had it, we were doomed to relegation and so it proved.
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6 Nov 2010 Fulham 1-1 Villa
Equaliser scored in 90+5
Worse than any defeat I've ever witnessed
I was at that game and Albrighton was a muppet giving away a free kick at the death. But their similarly late equaliser when JPA missed two penalties around 2004 was far worse. And neither would get in my top ten gut wrenchers - am too pained to list them here. This is no conversation for a Monday - needs to be a boozy Friday night topic....
I have 2 sons. One had his first game in that 1-1 at Fulham, the other the 8-0 at Chelsea. Neither has seen us win.
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League Cup semi-final against Bolton in '04 pissed me off, only being 12 at the time. The 2010 Final is an obvious one as well.
And most games in the 2009 season run in, especially the run where we were knocked out of UEFA and FA Cups and lose to Chelsea in about a week
Was that the 2-5 loss at Bolton in leg 1 ? I was at that game and had to be in London 9am the next day to do a 30 minute presentation In front of about 150 people. I felt like veering my car off the motorway on way home
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Boxing Day 1992
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Man City at home in 1990. Even went 1up. Gave the title to Liverpool that day.
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That winner from macheda was a hard one to take after playing so well and throwing away a 2-0 lead against the shit was sickening. The list could go on after the last few seasons.
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Oldham and West Ham fa cup quarters.Still shiver at the thought of those two.
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Man City grabbing a late equalizer at home in the FA Cup, we were live on the BBC, Baros scored from one of our only decent moves of the night and even then we couldn't see it out and conceded the typical 90th minute goal - Micah Richards was it? Naturally we got tonked in the replay when Darius Vassell was in that spell of scoring everytime he played against us.
Citeh absolutely murdered us that day. I was embarrassed we were winning
Then Micah Richards swore on TV
For me the most gut renching were trabzonspor, Man United league cup final (you just knew afterwards we were never going to be good enough under O'Neill) and Blackburn 3-0 away to pretty much confirm we wouldn't win the league.
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Every time we lose an FA cup tie however the dfeat at home against manure after going 2-0 up was the worst ever.
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Every time we lose an FA cup tie.
Have no fear, your gut will remain unwrenched today.
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Well it's nice to 7/1 against odds being offered by the Bookies for away team at Villa Park. Just like away teams at Eastlands or SB!
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Gut wrenching victory today according to some strange folk on the main forum.
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I remember many of the above but for me two stick in the brain:
West Ham 1 Villa 0 FA Cup Quarter Final 1980. It was going to be our year. We had held them brilliantly for 90 minutes. Then Ken McNaught handled? and Stewart scored from the spot. Unbelievable.
Sheffield United 2 Villa 1. 14th Feb 1976. I had started college in Sheffield the previous year and had seen the Blades thrashed several times including 5-1 at Villa Park. They had 4 points only by February and were bottom by a street. Villa go there, play abysmally and who should score the winner but Chris Guthrie, who must have been the most inept centre forward ever to grace the top division. Beyond humiliation.
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There have been so many over the 50 odd years i have been watching Villa,that it would take hours to name them. The ones that spring to mind, are the Leicester match where we scored and it was'nt given,the match at Walsall on a boxing day1970 and we were thrashed 3-0 and even missed a pen a few days after reaching Wembley.The boxing day match at Small Heath when we lost 3-0 and also the one with the Enkelman gaff
Others that have just come to mind, Coventry away on a foggy boxing day when we lost 3-0, Liverpool winning in injury time a couple of seasons back ,losing at Bournemoth 3-0 in the third division and that match at the baggies where we somehow managed to lose 3-1 while leading with something like ten minutes to go
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I remember many of the above but for me two stick in the brain:
West Ham 1 Villa 0 FA Cup Quarter Final 1980. It was going to be our year. We had held them brilliantly for 90 minutes. Then Ken McNaught handled? and Stewart scored from the spot. Unbelievable.
Sheffield United 2 Villa 1. 14th Feb 1976. I had started college in Sheffield the previous year and had seen the Blades thrashed several times including 5-1 at Villa Park. They had 4 points only by February and were bottom by a street. Villa go there, play abysmally and who should score the winner but Chris Guthrie, who must have been the most inept centre forward ever to grace the top division. Beyond humiliation.
Was Chris Guthrie even more inept than Carl Leaburn? I think he scored about ten goals in a couple of hundred top flight games for Charlton and Wimbledon. Nine of them against the Villa I think.
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Not sure if anyone has mentioned it, but the Coventry away game in 1990 when Platt buggered up his knee and effectively ended our slim title chances at the same time.
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Not sure if anyone has mentioned it, but the Coventry away game in 1990 when Platt buggered up his knee and effectively ended our slim title chances at the same time.
I thought it was Mountfield who injured his knee in that game.
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It was Mountfield. He didn't play again that season. The only game Platt didn't play was the last game of the season.
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It was Mountfield. He didn't play again that season. The only game Platt didn't play was the last game of the season.
He did, and he was still knackered, as he was outstripped by Robert Rosario for Norwich's equalizer in the penultimate game.
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My mistake. He played the last 5 but was subbed in 3 of them.
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It was Mountfield. He didn't play again that season. The only game Platt didn't play was the last game of the season.
He did, and he was still knackered, as he was outstripped by Robert Rosario for Norwich's equalizer in the penultimate game.
Mountfield opened the scoring for them as well as I recall.
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I remember many of the above but for me two stick in the brain:
West Ham 1 Villa 0 FA Cup Quarter Final 1980. It was going to be our year. We had held them brilliantly for 90 minutes. Then Ken McNaught handled? and Stewart scored from the spot. Unbelievable.
Sheffield United 2 Villa 1. 14th Feb 1976. I had started college in Sheffield the previous year and had seen the Blades thrashed several times including 5-1 at Villa Park. They had 4 points only by February and were bottom by a street. Villa go there, play abysmally and who should score the winner but Chris Guthrie, who must have been the most inept centre forward ever to grace the top division. Beyond humiliation.
I was at that away game in Sheffield. We took the lead as well and should have won easily. Gutting as was we didn't win a single away game all season and this was a big chance for us to do so (see also Blues and Cov away we should have won). I think Tont Currie scored for them but could be wrong.
We also beat them 4-1 in the FA cup the season before when we were 2nd division and they were first ("first division rubbish" etc)
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I remember many of the above but for me two stick in the brain:
West Ham 1 Villa 0 FA Cup Quarter Final 1980. It was going to be our year. We had held them brilliantly for 90 minutes. Then Ken McNaught handled? and Stewart scored from the spot. Unbelievable.
Sheffield United 2 Villa 1. 14th Feb 1976. I had started college in Sheffield the previous year and had seen the Blades thrashed several times including 5-1 at Villa Park. They had 4 points only by February and were bottom by a street. Villa go there, play abysmally and who should score the winner but Chris Guthrie, who must have been the most inept centre forward ever to grace the top division. Beyond humiliation.
Here a link to the West Ham game if you bear to watch it. Ray Stewart never missed penalties so it was all over when McNaught stuck his hand up.
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=west+ham+aston+villa+fa+cup+quarter+final&FORM=VIRE1#view=detail&mid=4461386D613264737D474461386D613264737D47
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I remember many of the above but for me two stick in the brain:
West Ham 1 Villa 0 FA Cup Quarter Final 1980. It was going to be our year. We had held them brilliantly for 90 minutes. Then Ken McNaught handled? and Stewart scored from the spot. Unbelievable.
Sheffield United 2 Villa 1. 14th Feb 1976. I had started college in Sheffield the previous year and had seen the Blades thrashed several times including 5-1 at Villa Park. They had 4 points only by February and were bottom by a street. Villa go there, play abysmally and who should score the winner but Chris Guthrie, who must have been the most inept centre forward ever to grace the top division. Beyond humiliation.
Here a link to the West Ham game if you bear to watch it. Ray Stewart never missed penalties so it was all over when McNaught stuck his hand up.
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=west+ham+aston+villa+fa+cup+quarter+final&FORM=VIRE1#view=detail&mid=4461386D613264737D474461386D613264737D47
I hate West Ham more than coffee.
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It was Mountfield. He didn't play again that season. The only game Platt didn't play was the last game of the season.
He did, and he was still knackered, as he was outstripped by Robert Rosario for Norwich's equalizer in the penultimate game.
Correct. He wore a knee support but was clearly struggling.
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Wednesday 9 Jan 1991
Fa cup 3Rd replay v Wimbledon at Plough Lane
Lost 1-0 and they scored in the 120th minute.Absolutely lashed it down in the open end and never been so wet or miserable on a homeward coach journey.
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Wednesday 9 Jan 1991
Fa cup 3Rd replay v Wimbledon at Plough Lane
Lost 1-0 and they scored in the 120th minute.Absolutely lashed it down in the open end and never been so wet or miserable on a homeward coach journey.
Then under BFR they did us down there on penalties. I think Vinny Jones scored the winning pen. I was was tempted to let his tyres down when I passed his sponsored car in the car park after the game. White BMW.
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Wednesday 9 Jan 1991
Fa cup 3Rd replay v Wimbledon at Plough Lane
Lost 1-0 and they scored in the 120th minute.Absolutely lashed it down in the open end and never been so wet or miserable on a homeward coach journey.
Then under BFR they did us down there on penalties. I think Vinny Jones scored the winning pen. I was was tempted to let his tyres down when I passed his sponsored car in the car park after the game. White BMW.
Was that the fog game, where you couldn't see past the half way line? A depressing night that was.
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Wednesday 9 Jan 1991
Fa cup 3Rd replay v Wimbledon at Plough Lane
Lost 1-0 and they scored in the 120th minute.Absolutely lashed it down in the open end and never been so wet or miserable on a homeward coach journey.
Then under BFR they did us down there on penalties. I think Vinny Jones scored the winning pen. I was was tempted to let his tyres down when I passed his sponsored car in the car park after the game. White BMW.
Was that the fog game, where you couldn't see past the half way line? A depressing night that was.
I had forgotten the fog but I think you are right.
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Pretty sure the fog game was February 93 ,F.A cup 4th round replay. Lost the penalty shootout after a dismal 0-0 draw. Couldn't see the Sainsbury's end at all.
Sounds right to me although I have no recollection of the first game at Villa Park, even though I would have been there. 1-1? 0-0?
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Wednesday 9 Jan 1991
Fa cup 3Rd replay v Wimbledon at Plough Lane
Lost 1-0 and they scored in the 120th minute.Absolutely lashed it down in the open end and never been so wet or miserable on a homeward coach journey.
Then under BFR they did us down there on penalties. I think Vinny Jones scored the winning pen. I was was tempted to let his tyres down when I passed his sponsored car in the car park after the game. White BMW.
Was that the fog game, where you couldn't see past the half way line? A depressing night that was.
I had forgotten the fog but I think you are right.
Pretty sure the fog one was the F.A cup 4th round replay in February 93.
Couldn't see the Sainsbury's end of the pitch at all and by the second half most of the pitch was shrouded in fog.
Lost a penalty shootout after a dismal 0-0 draw.
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I think Teale missed the decisive penalty. Richardson may have missed one too. Taken in front of the Villa fans.
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I remember the fog game well. Was standing with the Villa fans in the open end as it was at the time when Richardson nearly hit us with his pen.It was a big end and we were halfway up !The drive home after along the M1,M6 and M42 to Redditch where i was living at the time was the longest drive home from a away match i can recall
As for the other Wimbledon cup game,god did it piss it down that night. Poxy little ground had no cover and boy did i get drenched.Just to complete the misery ,they scored in the last minute of extra time.Think it was Alan Cork,via a wicked deflection of a villa players shoulder,who i think may have been Paul Birch
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I think you are right in saying it was Alan Cork although I wasn't at that game. That is the gap in my collection of miserable trips to Selhurst.
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I was at the West Ham FA Cup game in 1980 and was a broken man when they got that late penalty in the last minute. We could well have won the cup that year if we'd taken them back to VP for the replay.
That pales into insignificance though when I recall we couldn't overcome Bradford over two legs in the Carling Cup a couple of seasons ago. Inept.
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The 2-1 defeat at home to Citeh under Howard Kendall during 89-90. Peter feckin Reid popped up for their winner at villa park. The beginning of the end of our title push that year.
Also earlier in that same season where it all started to go wrong a 0-3 at home to Wimbledon. Awful.
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1-0 to Leicester away in 1970 which virtually condemned us to the Third Division.We should have taken the lead as Pat McMahon's shot flew past Shilton into the goal ,hitting the stanchion,rebounding out and the ref and his officials not awarding a goal.'Honest'Shilton said he would have told the ref if he had have asked him.Leicester had another incident like that and changed their goal nets.
A defeat made more bitter by my motorbike breaking down on the journey home.
Also 'gut wrenching' was the seemingly decisive defeat at home to Ipswich in 81,fortunately the sentiment wasn't shared by Ron Saunders.
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1-0 to Leicester away in 1970 which virtually condemned us to the Third Division.We should have taken the lead as Pat McMahon's shot flew past Shilton into the goal ,hitting the stanchion,rebounding out and the ref and his officials not awarding a goal.'Honest'Shilton said he would have told the ref if he had have asked him.Leicester had another incident like that and changed their goal nets.
A defeat made more bitter by my motorbike breaking down on the journey home.
Also 'gut wrenching' was the seemingly decisive defeat at home to Ipswich in 81,fortunately the sentiment wasn't shared by Ron Saunders.
I was at that game, and I agree with you. In fact, we were playing quite well towards the end of that season, and there were definitely teams worse that us that stayed up. This is why I never accept the received wisdom that the the worst teams go down and the final league table "tells the truth".
The worst defeat for me was 4-0 at the Sty when I was 12 years old and had my Villa hat nicked waking back to town.