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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Clampy on January 27, 2014, 05:25:21 PM
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Three home games and one away all moved in March.
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Blimey, we stand half a chance of seeing Villa win on telly!! Home to Stoke, Home to Norwich.
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Havent got a leg to stand on as I subscribe to Sky. But slightly unchuffed at this.
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Three home games and one away all moved in March.
http://t.co/yckkQJ2t5A
It's been said many times before but this really pisses me off. The odd game OK but a whole months worth of Saturdays? As we all know, the fans are last to be considered.
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Three home games on a Sunday in the space of 22 days seems a bit over the top - lets hope our home form is sorted by then .
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Three home games and one away all moved in March.
http://t.co/yckkQJ2t5A
It's been said many times before but this really pisses me off. The odd game OK but a whole months worth of Saturdays? As we all know, the fans are last to be considered.
Totally agree think its time the club considered some sort of compensation for season ticket holders
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Also means we will have had one home league game on a Saturday from the end of December to the first week in April .
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More than slightly unchuffed with this. I'm running half marathons on the 2nd and 15th March.
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Three home games and one away all moved in March.
http://t.co/yckkQJ2t5A
It's been said many times before but this really pisses me off. The odd game OK but a whole months worth of Saturdays? As we all know, the fans are last to be considered.
Totally agree think its time the club considered some sort of compensation for season ticket holders
It's not just us. As ever, don't complain if you have Sky.
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For the first time in the history of Sky Sports broadcasting matches live they've actually done me a favour! I was due to miss the Norwich home game on March 1st to attend a wedding but I'll now be able to do both.
Is it asking too much for the Easter Saturday home game to be moved to Monday night? I've got a stag weekend in Amsterdam to go on on Good Friday, returning Easter Monday.
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Three home games and one away all moved in March.
http://t.co/yckkQJ2t5A
It's been said many times before but this really pisses me off. The odd game OK but a whole months worth of Saturdays? As we all know, the fans are last to be considered.
Totally agree think its time the club considered some sort of compensation for season ticket holders
It's not just us. As ever, don't complain if you have Sky.
I don't and won't on principle.
Have said before today feel for the person whose job it will be to convince us to renew in view of the lack of entertainment over the last few years. Think this has made the job slightly harder
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Its a disgrace moving them, especially this close to the games.
I'm sure thousands have fans must have already got tickets for the Norwich game with it only being just over a month away. They now face the hassle of getting a refund if they can't make it.
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Oh well a few more games where we won't get back till late into a Sunday evening. On the up side At least I don't have to get up early!
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Neutrals across the land will be licking their lips at the prospect of Villa hosting Norwich and Stoke.
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Its a disgrace moving them, especially this close to the games.
I'm sure thousands have fans must have already got tickets for the Norwich game with it only being just over a month away. They now face the hassle of getting a refund if they can't make it.
I didn't think they were allowed to move games once tickets had been sold anyway.
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Oh do fuck off Sky
Sick of this - when did Norwich/Stoke become a "must see" for anyone?
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And the other March match against man city away will move if they get through chelsea in the cup.
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For the first time in the history of Sky Sports broadcasting matches live they've actually done me a favour! I was due to miss the Norwich home game on March 1st to attend a wedding but I'll now be able to do both.
Is it asking too much for the Easter Saturday home game to be moved to Monday night? I've got a stag weekend in Amsterdam to go on on Good Friday, returning Easter Monday.
The Chelsea game being moved to 5.30 helps me as it is my daughter's eighth birthday. We can book an early kids party somewhere now. My son and I were under the cosh regarding a decision to miss the game or have the party on the Sunday, the latter of which would not have gone down well.
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I hate Sunday games.
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Blimey, we stand half a chance of seeing Villa win on telly!! Home to Stoke, Home to Norwich.
Home to Chav$ki and away at ManUre aswell. Easy.
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Why the fcuk is it obligatory now for Norwich at home to always be on TV? If you look at that Sunday, there's 3 games kicking off at 4.30pm, again bizarre.
Looks to me like the Norwich and Stoke games are just being shown so Sky can just fill their quota of showing every time 5 times or whatever it is.
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What a fucking load of bollocks.
I can't make the Chelsea game because of a wedding - had they moved it to a Sunday I'd have been fine, but no, instead they just put it on telly on the Saturday night so I've got even less chance of selling my ticket.
Twats.
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to clarify no games were moved because of any request made be me.
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Villa - Stoke on March 22nd.
That's going to be a huge television audience.
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Villa - Stoke on March 22nd.
That's going to be a huge television audience.
I'm just disappointed it is in March. I thought SKY were trying to make it the Christmas must see in the finest Morecambe and Wise and Only Fools And Horses tradition.
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Villa - Stoke on March 22nd.
That's going to be a huge television audience.
Is it possible to get into negative numbers?
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Such is the modern day you have to be pretty naïve to think a 3pm Saturday game against Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea or Man. United is going to stay in that slot. You can count on one hand in the last 10 years probably the amount of times we've actually played any of those 4 at that time. They're always moved for tv.
Every sympathy with anyone inconveinced by Stoke or Norwich being moved. I firmly believe it's just due to Sky needing to fill their quota up for showing every team 5 times especially as BT have more picks nowadays (have they announced their games yet?)
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And this is another feckin reason why I will not be renewing next season - Sky and the clubs sucking up to their paymasters is now well past just inconvenience. Modern football - fookin shove it .
Thats two more football fanatics who have had enough.
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Have bt shown any games live from villa park yet?
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What annoys me is that tickets had already gone on sale (I got 3) shouldn't be allowed to move games once tickets have been sold
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And this is another feckin reason why I will not be renewing next season - Sky and the clubs sucking up to their paymasters is now well past just inconvenience. Modern football - fookin shove it .
Thats two more football fanatics who have had enough.
Trouble is you decide to watch more Everton games and they'll all just be moved for TV aswell, that's the reality for anyone in the premier league nowadays.
Why I'm going to more Walsall games home and away nowadays as they are never shifted from 3pm. So get yourself down to Prenton Park for your live football fix.
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Villa - Stoke on March 22nd.
That's going to be a huge television audience.
I was actually surprised that Chelsea got 40,000+ for the FA Cup game against them this past weekend. And that's with Stoke not selling their full allocation. Had we been playing Stoke in Rd4 I'd have been stunned to see it top 30,000.
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Villa - Stoke on March 22nd.
That's going to be a huge television audience.
I was actually surprised that Chelsea got 40,000+ for the FA Cup game against them this past weekend. And that's with Stoke not selling their full allocation. Had we been playing Stoke in Rd4 I'd have been stunned to see it top 30,000.
Was it the Old Trafford-approved "You can't buy a season ticket unless you pay for the cup games as well" scam?
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And this is another feckin reason why I will not be renewing next season - Sky and the clubs sucking up to their paymasters is now well past just inconvenience. Modern football - fookin shove it .
Thats two more football fanatics who have had enough.
Trouble is you decide to watch more Everton games and they'll all just be moved for TV aswell, that's the reality for anyone in the premier league nowadays.
Why I'm going to more Walsall games home and away nowadays as they are never shifted from 3pm. So get yourself down to Prenton Park for your live football fix.
Wrong side of the river mate - more likely to venture up to Preston, however its one of the worst places I have ever come across to park your car. Went to a couple of Southport games - wierd to say the least - most of the small attendance were in anoraks and those who were not were running up and down the small terrace behind the goal. I think its fair to say that most of Southport are related to each other in an unhealthy way - they all appear to share the same few surnames - unfortunately Rimmer is one of them and our Jimmy was from the said town.
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Deepdale's one of my favourite grounds and they've a good chance of being back in the championship next season so would be a good choice.
Might be easier to get the train and then get a bus from the slick modern (irony alert) bus station as that's what I did when I popped up last season for the Walsall game.
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Stourbridge gets more attractive with every passing year.
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Deepdale's one of my favourite grounds and they've a good chance of being back in the championship next season so would be a good choice.
Might be easier to get the train and then get a bus from the slick modern (irony alert) bus station as that's what I did when I popped up last season for the Walsall game.
Not sure about the train from here - bus is the more likely alternative but it takes an eternity from Formby, via Southport.
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Really getting fed up with this shite. Tempted not to renew next season mainly because it just does my tits in. Three fucking home games in one month moved. Fuck right off Sky you wankers*
*I can say this with a clear conscience as I haven't had Sky for years.
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And this is another feckin reason why I will not be renewing next season - Sky and the clubs sucking up to their paymasters is now well past just inconvenience. Modern football - fookin shove it .
Thats two more football fanatics who have had enough.
I nearly put that as well Mersy - the whole of bastard March at 3PM screwed - The one thing I still liked was 3PM Saturday matches - don't think I'll miss it to be honest...
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Villa - Stoke on March 22nd.
That's going to be a huge television audience.
I was actually surprised that Chelsea got 40,000+ for the FA Cup game against them this past weekend. And that's with Stoke not selling their full allocation. Had we been playing Stoke in Rd4 I'd have been stunned to see it top 30,000.
Was it the Old Trafford-approved "You can't buy a season ticket unless you pay for the cup games as well" scam?
possibly, but even then I might not have showed up to watch Sturk. Maybe we should try that and get more people to show up to our cup games. It might only be for a round or two anyway
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Villa - Stoke on March 22nd.
That's going to be a huge television audience.
I was actually surprised that Chelsea got 40,000+ for the FA Cup game against them this past weekend. And that's with Stoke not selling their full allocation. Had we been playing Stoke in Rd4 I'd have been stunned to see it top 30,000.
Was it the Old Trafford-approved "You can't buy a season ticket unless you pay for the cup games as well" scam?
possibly, but even then I might not have showed up to watch Sturk. Maybe we should try that and get more people to show up to our cup games. It might only be for a round or two anyway
Even if you weren't there, if you'd bought a ticket you'd be in the attendance.
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Villa - Stoke on March 22nd.
That's going to be a huge television audience.
I was actually surprised that Chelsea got 40,000+ for the FA Cup game against them this past weekend. And that's with Stoke not selling their full allocation. Had we been playing Stoke in Rd4 I'd have been stunned to see it top 30,000.
I was surprised arsenal had a sell out at home to coventry on a Friday night .
I have a friend who has a season ticket at the emirates and they were charging just a tenner for this game.
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All but one have helped me out massively.
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Stourbridge gets more attractive with every passing year.
I gave up going to Villa to go to Halesowen. 3pm every Saturday, and I feel like my money really does make a difference as I'm treated like a fan and not a customer. I couldn't be doing with watching football on a cricket pitch ;-)
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Stourbridge gets more attractive with every passing year.
I gave up going to Villa to go to Halesowen. 3pm every Saturday, and I feel like my money really does make a difference as I'm treated like a fan and not a customer. I couldn't be doing with watching football on a cricket pitch ;-)
You don't have to. For the purposes of the Southern League ground grading the cricket pitch doesn't exist.
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Stourbridge gets more attractive with every passing year.
I gave up going to Villa to go to Halesowen. 3pm every Saturday, and I feel like my money really does make a difference as I'm treated like a fan and not a customer. I couldn't be doing with watching football on a cricket pitch ;-)
You don't have to. For the purposes of the Southern League ground grading the cricket pitch doesn't exist.
I know that, I prefer choosing from four sides of the pitch though to watch football ;-)
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Stourbridge gets more attractive with every passing year.
I gave up going to Villa to go to Halesowen. 3pm every Saturday, and I feel like my money really does make a difference as I'm treated like a fan and not a customer. I couldn't be doing with watching football on a cricket pitch ;-)
You don't have to. For the purposes of the Southern League ground grading the cricket pitch doesn't exist.
I know that, I prefer choosing from four sides of the pitch though to watch football ;-)
Yes, but it's Halesowen.
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Stourbridge gets more attractive with every passing year.
I gave up going to Villa to go to Halesowen. 3pm every Saturday, and I feel like my money really does make a difference as I'm treated like a fan and not a customer. I couldn't be doing with watching football on a cricket pitch ;-)
You don't have to. For the purposes of the Southern League ground grading the cricket pitch doesn't exist.
I know that, I prefer choosing from four sides of the pitch though to watch football ;-)
Steady now...
Yes, but it's Halesowen.
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Villa - Stoke on March 22nd.
That's going to be a huge television audience.
I was actually surprised that Chelsea got 40,000+ for the FA Cup game against them this past weekend. And that's with Stoke not selling their full allocation. Had we been playing Stoke in Rd4 I'd have been stunned to see it top 30,000.
Was it the Old Trafford-approved "You can't buy a season ticket unless you pay for the cup games as well" scam?
possibly, but even then I might not have showed up to watch Sturk. Maybe we should try that and get more people to show up to our cup games. It might only be for a round or two anyway
Even if you weren't there, if you'd bought a ticket you'd be in the attendance.
true but bizarrely it actually looked like 40,000 were in attendance.
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When the fixtures came out the first one my son looked for was March 22nd, his birthday. When he saw we were home to Stoke his words were 'Im glad it's Stoke because it won't get moved for TV and we can go'.
Fuck you Sky.
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I can't understand Sky's reasoning for Norwich and Stoke at home, have they not seen us at Villa Park this season? Then again I suppose I shouldn't complain as I've been known to slag them off for showing the same old teams all the time as well.
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The only game that might have helped me out a bit by being moved was West Ham. Fuckers.
Who in their right mind wants to spend their Sunday afternoon watching us and Stoke?
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I subscribe to Sky so realise I am giving it tacit support, as is anyone watching dodgy streams on the net - if Sky weren't covering then there would be no stream - but it's still becoming a massive pain in the arse. Having a break from it for a while has made me realise how much I dislike going to matches on Sunday at four and Monday at eight. I am fortunate in that I have a fairly easy journey to VP but for those living further away it must be a real pain in the arse.
Surely it isn't beyond the wit of the league to devise a system guaranteeing clubs a minimum number of games not moved, that way people could make their plans with some degree of confidence.
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Neutrals across the land will be licking their lips at the prospect of Villa hosting Norwich and Stoke.
Yes, I'll be watching them in the pub down here and don't exactly expect the place to be rammed!!!
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I subscribe to Sky so realise I am giving it tacit support, as is anyone watching dodgy streams on the net - if Sky weren't covering then there would be no stream - but it's still becoming a massive pain in the arse. Having a break from it for a while has made me realise how much I dislike going to matches on Sunday at four and Monday at eight. I am fortunate in that I have a fairly easy journey to VP but for those living further away it must be a real pain in the arse.
Surely it isn't beyond the wit of the league to devise a system guaranteeing clubs a minimum number of games not moved, that way people could make their plans with some degree of confidence.
This isn't true, every single game in the premier league is televised somewhere even without sky. As I've said on this before, the issue with moving games isn't so much them being moved, it's that they don't do it soon enough. For me games being moved from Saturday 3pm should be announced within a week of the fixtures coming out, for all but the last week or 2. Midweek the games should always be played on Wednesday at 8pm regardless.
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It drives me mad. I'm self employed and work Saturdays. I plan to finish early match days. So when the games get moved I end up finishing early for no reason. I can try and get more work in but it doesn't always work.
The real pain is when they move it to a 12.45 kick off. I normally finish work at 1/1.30. When they moved it to an early lunch time kick off I've got work already in and can't go.
Sundays I play american football. And I'm sure others here play Sunday league. 4pm kick offs can be very tight to get to. Lunch times I won't make.
I do wonder if a season ticket is good value any more because of the games I end up missing. It's not like I have loads of friends chomping at the bit to buy my ticket off me to see the mighty villa play at home either.
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It drives me mad. I'm self employed and work Saturdays. I plan to finish early match days. So when the games get moved I end up finishing early for no reason. I can try and get more work in but it doesn't always work.
The real pain is when they move it to a 12.45 kick off. I normally finish work at 1/1.30. When they moved it to an early lunch time kick off I've got work already in and can't go.
Sundays I play american football. And I'm sure others here play Sunday league. 4pm kick offs can be very tight to get to. Lunch times I won't make.
I do wonder if a season ticket is good value any more because of the games I end up missing. It's not like I have loads of friends chomping at the bit to buy my ticket off me to see the mighty villa play at home either.
Sorry about this off topic question but who do you play American Football for?
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I subscribe to Sky so realise I am giving it tacit support, as is anyone watching dodgy streams on the net - if Sky weren't covering then there would be no stream - but it's still becoming a massive pain in the arse. Having a break from it for a while has made me realise how much I dislike going to matches on Sunday at four and Monday at eight. I am fortunate in that I have a fairly easy journey to VP but for those living further away it must be a real pain in the arse.
Surely it isn't beyond the wit of the league to devise a system guaranteeing clubs a minimum number of games not moved, that way people could make their plans with some degree of confidence.
This isn't true, every single game in the premier league is televised somewhere even without sky. As I've said on this before, the issue with moving games isn't so much them being moved, it's that they don't do it soon enough. For me games being moved from Saturday 3pm should be announced within a week of the fixtures coming out, for all but the last week or 2. Midweek the games should always be played on Wednesday at 8pm regardless.
Of course it is true, it is the Sky feed they use. They don't have a dozen different broadcasters with their own kit. If Sky or BT or ANother broadcaster weren't there, where would the content come from?
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smart phones?
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Why the fcuk is it obligatory now for Norwich at home to always be on TV? If you look at that Sunday, there's 3 games kicking off at 4.30pm, again bizarre.
Out of interest why 4.30pm, any idea anybody?
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Why the fcuk is it obligatory now for Norwich at home to always be on TV? If you look at that Sunday, there's 3 games kicking off at 4.30pm, again bizarre.
Out of interest why 4.30pm, any idea anybody?
League Cup final at 2.00.
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Oh I was looking forward to watching that. If it goes to extra time will our match be delayed?
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Oh I was looking forward to watching that. If it goes to extra time will our match be delayed?
It'll probably get postponed and moved to another day.
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It's crap scheduling but then what do we expect? He who pays the piper calls the tune!
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And this is another feckin reason why I will not be renewing next season - Sky and the clubs sucking up to their paymasters is now well past just inconvenience. Modern football - fookin shove it .
Thats two more football fanatics who have had enough.
Ditto
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well another triple kick in the teeth for loyal fans who travel across for nearly every game.not only being a royal pain in the butt but having to pay for new flights plus hotel costs have to factored in due to the crap game times.I'm thinking this could be the end of many years of actual support because the product definitely justify the time and expense
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well another triple kick in the teeth for loyal fans who travel across for nearly every game.not only being a royal pain in the butt but having to pay for new flights plus hotel costs have to factored in due to the crap game times.I'm thinking this could be the end of many years of actual support because the product definitely justify the time and expense
But what about all the witty conversation you'd miss out on ?
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We are running a function on 1st March and would have been extremely pissed off if this game had gone back to a Saturday evening kick off. The new time suits us, as it happens, but the short notice changes that these people are allowed to get away with is a disgrace.
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Another nail in the coffin in regards to renewing my season ticket next year. Might buy one but sign up to that Viagwhatever you call it ticket site due to the nature of my job.
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well another triple kick in the teeth for loyal fans who travel across for nearly every game.not only being a royal pain in the butt but having to pay for new flights plus hotel costs have to factored in due to the crap game times.I'm thinking this could be the end of many years of actual support because the product definitely justify the time and expense
He makes a valid point though. The Norwich tickets have been on sale for about a week. What if any of our Irish contingent for example have brought tickets and booked flights to come over? Unless in the event of cup replays, games shouldn't be moved once tickets have gone on sale.
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Actually quite happy about the Chelsea game being moved as Saturday 5.30 kick-offs are my favourite, more so than the traditional 3pm even.
Sunday games are bit of a pain though, mostly because of less trains and an early start the next day.
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SKY should just announce all the fixtures up till Christmas at the start of the season and then all the fixtures to the end of the season at at the start of the new year. It isn't as if there are usually many surprises as to who is battling for the title and champions league and who is battling relegation.
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Sky is a bit like dealing with in-laws. There is a nice side to ie the reason why you had them but they don't half get on your tits at times!
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Ridiculous. How are we meant to follow our team so avidly if Sky and BT Sport are going to mess it up all the time? I'm fed up with it - we wanted to take the family to Norwich at home. That can't happen now, so Villa have lost money from potential ticket sales. And finally - why do they complain about teams not filling their ground every week when they do this? Stupid.
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Viagogo is shite by the way.
I feel for fans for a couple of reasons. Those that have to factor in trains and the like especially.
They are fucking expensive as it is without being moved about late on. It is terrible gamble these people are forced to take and is not right.
Kick off times alone are pain in the arse enough for me. Norwich at that time on a Sunday?
I can get there with hours to spare. I have 3 trains back, reasonably locally, in the five hours that follow.
In fact, inspired by Amfy and standing, I might start a campaign at Sky about their fucking around with fixtures at late notice.
I know you are constrained by sucking the devils teat but he doesn't need to be a ****** about it as well.
And it ain't just us feeling like it.
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Viagogo is shite by the way.
Very much so. STILL waiting for my free pie voucher.
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You cannot pick the price you want to sell for and they charge most of the ticket price, erm, back to their own bank balance whilst profiteering if away fans are squabbling over who gets mine in the Holte Lower.
They can get to fuck.
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You cannot pick the price you want to sell for and they charge most of the ticket price, erm, back to their own bank balance whilst profiteering if away fans are squabbling over who gets mine in the Holte Lower.
They can get to fuck.
You can pick the price now - they changed that this season.
They're still scum of the earth and the club should be ashamed they buddy up with them.
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I have had no problem with them. Since the Sunderland home match I have put every match on there, at a cheap price of my choosing, and the ticket has been sold - in some cases the same evening. The money is then in my account 2-3 days after the match is played. Easy Peasy.
OK I have lost a bit of the value of my ticket but that was paid for months ago anyway, and I am saving on a 250 mile round trip of Diesel, plus match programme, drink in the stadium etc.
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I have had no problem with them. Since the Sunderland home match I have put every match on there, at a cheap price of my choosing, and the ticket has been sold - in some cases the same evening. The money is then in my account 2-3 days after the match is played. Easy Peasy.
OK I have lost a bit of the value of my ticket but that was paid for months ago anyway, and I am saving on a 250 mile round trip of Diesel, plus match programme, drink in the stadium etc.
Does it not irk you that whoever buys your ticket has the money taken from them immediately yet you don't see the cash until a week after the game? Oh, and that they charge both you and the purchaser VAT? And that their charges are offensively high, such that there's normally approximately £10 difference between what the purchaser pays and what you receive - despite the ticket only being listed for about £25?
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It drives me mad. I'm self employed and work Saturdays. I plan to finish early match days. So when the games get moved I end up finishing early for no reason. I can try and get more work in but it doesn't always work.
The real pain is when they move it to a 12.45 kick off. I normally finish work at 1/1.30. When they moved it to an early lunch time kick off I've got work already in and can't go.
Sundays I play american football. And I'm sure others here play Sunday league. 4pm kick offs can be very tight to get to. Lunch times I won't make.
I do wonder if a season ticket is good value any more because of the games I end up missing. It's not like I have loads of friends chomping at the bit to buy my ticket off me to see the mighty villa play at home either.
Sorry about this off topic question but who do you play American Football for?
Just started. Birmingham Bulls
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I love Viagago I have to say selfishly. Get majority of home games on there as there's always some random seller who puts loads of trinity upper tickets for sale starting from 10-15 quid so saves me a fair bit seeing as I'm starting to go to less home games nowadays.
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I love Viagago I have to say selfishly. Get majority of home games on there as there's always some random seller who puts loads of trinity upper tickets for sale starting from 10-15 quid so saves me a fair bit seeing as I'm starting to go to less home games nowadays.
I'm guessing it's the club who sell those batches of Upper Trinity tickets as they are always there. As a buyer in the past Viagogo is fantastic. I've never sold my ticket on there so can't comment from a seller point of view.
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I love Viagago I have to say selfishly. Get majority of home games on there as there's always some random seller who puts loads of trinity upper tickets for sale starting from 10-15 quid so saves me a fair bit seeing as I'm starting to go to less home games nowadays.
I just dislike their business practices.
Aside of the ones I mentioned specifc to the Villa, there's also the fact they buy up tickets for popular events on the cheap then relist them at a massively inflated price.
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/news/article-2105305/Channel-4s-Dispatches-beats-injunction-attempt-Viagogo-air-great-ticket-selling-scandal-TV-tonight.html
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Oh yeah I don't like that either, just saying from a selfish point of view I save a small fortune getting the cut price tickets as opposed to paying normal prices.
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Adds to "To Do List"
Viagogo 3 more home games worth of ST seats
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Pay as you go is the better option imv. Season tickets are a waste of time nowadays. Nearly half the games get moved to a different day- time, so it is not worth it.
14 yrs a season ticket holder before i moved over here, away games too. All my holiday time was taken up because of re-arranged games.
Sky, thanks for the cash but you have given us supporters fuck all.
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Pay as you go is the better option imv. Season tickets are a waste of time nowadays. Nearly half the games get moved to a different day- time, so it is not worth it.
14 yrs a season ticket holder before i moved over here, away games too. All my holiday time was taken up because of re-arranged games.
Sky, thanks for the cash but you have given us supporters fuck all.
Getting access to away tickets is a good enough reason to buy season tickets.
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What a fucking load of bollocks.
I can't make the Chelsea game because of a wedding - had they moved it to a Sunday I'd have been fine, but no, instead they just put it on telly on the Saturday night so I've got even less chance of selling my ticket.
Twats.
Chelsea are in the Champions League the following Tuesday, at home to Galatasaray. The only thing that surprises me about this fixture change is that they didn't make it a Saturday lunchtime.
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What a fucking load of bollocks.
I can't make the Chelsea game because of a wedding - had they moved it to a Sunday I'd have been fine, but no, instead they just put it on telly on the Saturday night so I've got even less chance of selling my ticket.
Twats.
Chelsea are in the Champions League the following Tuesday, at home to Galatasaray. The only thing that surprises me about this fixture change is that they didn't make it a Saturday lunchtime.
Bt have the Saturday lunchtime slot , sky have the 5-30 one.
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So we are on telly in 5 out of 6 games starting with Newcastle in last game in Feb. I guess that's what happens to big clubs.
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So we are on telly in 5 out of 6 games starting with Newcastle in last game in Feb. I guess that's what happens to big clubs.
You could have understood it if these fixtures had been selected after last night's match.
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Not sure if there's another thread this should go in but the home game vs Leicester has now been moved to Sunday Dec 7th, 4pm kick off.
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that's just fecking brilliant...when are we playing at home at 3pm next ?
December 20th v Manure...which I can't go to...:(
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that's just fecking brilliant...when are we playing at home at 3pm next ?
December 20th v Manure...which I can't go to...:(
And what's the betting the Man Utd match gets moved as well?
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Not sure if there's another thread this should go in but the home game vs Leicester has now been moved to Sunday Dec 7th, 4pm kick off.
You have to be fe kin joking
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Not sure if there's another thread this should go in but the home game vs Leicester has now been moved to Sunday Dec 7th, 4pm kick off.
You have to be fe kin joking
Shitty zombies. Will they refund my train ticket cost for 6th?!
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Another game I probably won't be at now. 1 of our first 7 home games at 3pm on a Sat is a piss take. One of the 2 reasons I didn't renew this season is because of this shite, i'm just sick of it. Fuck off Sky.
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Yesterday summed up the Sky attitude to us. Delay in the Chav/Arse game so make the West Ham/QPR game wait to KO until Sky are ready. If that isn't too much power over the game I don't know what is.
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Not sure if there's another thread this should go in but the home game vs Leicester has now been moved to Sunday Dec 7th, 4pm kick off.
You have to be fe kin joking
Shitty zombies. Will they refund my train ticket cost for 6th?!
Why would you expect 'them' to ?
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Yesterday summed up the Sky attitude to us. Delay in the Chav/Arse game so make the West Ham/QPR game wait to KO until Sky are ready. If that isn't too much power over the game I don't know what is.
I don't see what the problem is with delaying a kick off in these circumstances
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that's just fecking brilliant...when are we playing at home at 3pm next ?
December 20th v Manure...which I can't go to...:(
And what's the betting the Man Utd match gets moved as well?
Nope, this clash of mid-table clubs is still at 3pm
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Unless BT show it?
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Yesterday summed up the Sky attitude to us. Delay in the Chav/Arse game so make the West Ham/QPR game wait to KO until Sky are ready. If that isn't too much power over the game I don't know what is.
I don't see what the problem is with delaying a kick off in these circumstances
Why should the players and fans have to wait for Sky to be ready? Oh yeah, the TV audience is more important.
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Yesterday summed up the Sky attitude to us. Delay in the Chav/Arse game so make the West Ham/QPR game wait to KO until Sky are ready. If that isn't too much power over the game I don't know what is.
I don't see what the problem is with delaying a kick off in these circumstances
Are you serious?
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Yesterday summed up the Sky attitude to us. Delay in the Chav/Arse game so make the West Ham/QPR game wait to KO until Sky are ready. If that isn't too much power over the game I don't know what is.
I don't see what the problem is with delaying a kick off in these circumstances
I do.
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Yesterday summed up the Sky attitude to us. Delay in the Chav/Arse game so make the West Ham/QPR game wait to KO until Sky are ready. If that isn't too much power over the game I don't know what is.
I don't see what the problem is with delaying a kick off in these circumstances
Guess it's ok if you're curled up on the sofa , slippers on in front of a roaring fire.
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It's not OK if you're a professional footballer who has timed their warm-up to perfection or a fan at the ground.
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Yesterday summed up the Sky attitude to us. Delay in the Chav/Arse game so make the West Ham/QPR game wait to KO until Sky are ready. If that isn't too much power over the game I don't know what is.
I don't see what the problem is with delaying a kick off in these circumstances
(http://i.imgur.com/TzEUSHs.gif)
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Out of interest, would the ref in the West Ham game have been within his rights to start the game at the time it was supposed to?
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Out of interest, would the ref in the West Ham game have been within his rights to start the game at the time it was supposed to?
Highly unlikely.
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When I looked at the fixtures for Sunday, at lunchtime, the West Ham game was already at 4:20, and that was before the delay in the Chelsea game. It was because there were three live games that day.
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that's just fecking brilliant...when are we playing at home at 3pm next ?
December 20th v Manure...which I can't go to...:(
And what's the betting the Man Utd match gets moved as well?
Definitely will be.
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Fuck off football
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Fuck off football
Fuck off SKY might be more appropriate.
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Shitty zombies. Will they refund my train ticket cost for 6th?!
Why would you expect 'them' to ?
No need to be arsey with me, I know neither Sky nor Richard Scudamore will be writing me a personal letter saying how sorry they are for messing up my plans along with thousands of others, just annoying is all.
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Out of interest, would the ref in the West Ham game have been within his rights to start the game at the time it was supposed to?
Yes, if he never wanted to ref a Premier League game ever again.
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Yesterday summed up the Sky attitude to us. Delay in the Chav/Arse game so make the West Ham/QPR game wait to KO until Sky are ready. If that isn't too much power over the game I don't know what is.
I don't see what the problem is with delaying a kick off in these circumstances
Why should the players and fans have to wait for Sky to be ready? Oh yeah, the TV audience is more important.
I don't agree with the decision, as it could have ruined plans for travel etc., but it's not as if the fans would have all been in the stand waiting, it was announced a good 3 hours ahead of time, and you presume most people at the ground have travelled locally from London. Games have been postponed closer to KO in the past.
That said, it does highlight the regard that the powers that be hold the match-going public in.
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that's just fecking brilliant...when are we playing at home at 3pm next ?
December 20th v Manure...which I can't go to...:(
And what's the betting the Man Utd match gets moved as well?
Definitely will be.
It's not one of the BT games announced for December
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Yet.
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Another game I probably won't be at now. 1 of our first 7 home games at 3pm on a Sat is a piss take. One of the 2 reasons I didn't renew this season is because of this shite, i'm just sick of it. Fuck off Sky.
Was the other reason because we're shit? If so, I didn't renew for the same reasons.
However, as a result, I'm now looking at the games moved for TV thinking it's great. I can watch us without paying for it (go to a mates house or pub).
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Wow, if the United game isn't changed, it will be the first 3pm Saturday home game for years against them.
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Manure will be moved to something ridiculous like 12:00 or 5:30pm you can bet your life on it.
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We always get dicked by them on the gogglebox. Or off the telly, I guess.
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Another game I probably won't be at now. 1 of our first 7 home games at 3pm on a Sat is a piss take. One of the 2 reasons I didn't renew this season is because of this shite, i'm just sick of it. Fuck off Sky.
Was the other reason because we're shit? If so, I didn't renew for the same reasons.
However, as a result, I'm now looking at the games moved for TV thinking it's great. I can watch us without paying for it (go to a mates house or pub).
No. Cost.
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Might actually beat them now given it's an unusual kick off time for that fixture.
Mind you I thought the same for the Arsenal game which was our first 3pm against them at home in many a year.
Let's not have too much xmas turkey that week.
Edit: At least the xmas games haven't been messed around this year. Ridiculous the amount of times we've kicked off at half 5 on boxing day in recent seasons.
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But why the hell have we got to go all the way down there on Boxing Day? Why couldn't we have Leicester Stoke or Albion?
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Fixtures appear uncannily similar to last year
Last
15 dec Yanited
26 dec palace
28 dec Swansea
This
20 dec Yanited
26 dec Swansea
1 jan Palace
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Yesterday summed up the Sky attitude to us. Delay in the Chav/Arse game so make the West Ham/QPR game wait to KO until Sky are ready. If that isn't too much power over the game I don't know what is.
I don't see what the problem is with delaying a kick off in these circumstances
Are you serious?
Yes, I have absolutely no problem with the next game being delayed by a few minutes until the previous game has finished and TV hands over to the new game. It seems a perfectly sensible thing to do.
My only criticism is that they should have left a bigger time gap between the games in the first place.
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Yesterday summed up the Sky attitude to us. Delay in the Chav/Arse game so make the West Ham/QPR game wait to KO until Sky are ready. If that isn't too much power over the game I don't know what is.
I don't see what the problem is with delaying a kick off in these circumstances
Are you serious?
Yes, I have absolutely no problem with the next game being delayed by a few minutes until the previous game has finished and TV hands over to the new game. It seems a perfectly sensible thing to do.
My only criticism is that they should have left a bigger time gap between the games in the first place.
It's not a television programme.
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Yesterday summed up the Sky attitude to us. Delay in the Chav/Arse game so make the West Ham/QPR game wait to KO until Sky are ready. If that isn't too much power over the game I don't know what is.
I don't see what the problem is with delaying a kick off in these circumstances
Are you serious?
Yes, I have absolutely no problem with the next game being delayed by a few minutes until the previous game has finished and TV hands over to the new game. It seems a perfectly sensible thing to do.
My only criticism is that they should have left a bigger time gap between the games in the first place.
It's not a television programme.
And if it is we should be paid as extras.
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But why the hell have we got to go all the way down there on Boxing Day? Why couldn't we have Leicester Stoke or Albion?
Swansea have to play somebody on Boxing Day, and the closest clubs to them are those in the Midlands.
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But why the hell have we got to go all the way down there on Boxing Day? Why couldn't we have Leicester Stoke or Albion?
Swansea have to play somebody on Boxing Day, and the closest clubs to them are those in the Midlands.
They could fuck off to the League of Wales and then they could have a local derby against Llanelli or something.
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Why would they want to play in that pointless league?
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Because they are Welsh.
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So? The Football League was never intended to be English only. The League of Wales was founded more than a hundred years late, and is part-time. Why would a team which, even before they were any good, could attract thousands of fans want to sack all their players and staff and go to play in a park league in front of 200?
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Because they are Welsh.
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Apparently, Swansea City were preceded by a club called Swansea Villa. (according to Wiki)
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Because they are Welsh.
So you think they should abandon all their history, make all their full-time staff unemployed and ignore the wishes of their fans just to satisfy patriotic jingoism for a nation that doesn't actually exist?
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Why not, it is Christmas after all.
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Because they are Welsh.
So you think they should abandon all their history, make all their full-time staff unemployed and ignore the wishes of their fans just to satisfy patriotic jingoism for a nation that doesn't actually exist?
You do realise I'm being facetious don't you?
But they really should bugger off to Wales, and take Cardiff, Newport, Merthyr Tydfil, Colwyn Bay and Shrewsbury with them.
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If they're taking Shrewsbury can't they have the wuluvs unall?
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Because they are Welsh.
So you think they should abandon all their history, make all their full-time staff unemployed and ignore the wishes of their fans just to satisfy patriotic jingoism for a nation that doesn't actually exist?
You do realise I'm being facetious don't you?
Clearly I didn't, excuse my stupidity I've been drinking for four days!
Although if you can get Swansea to take alleged former Welsh capital Liverpool off to the League of Wales with them, we may have a deal!
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Not sure if there's another thread this should go in but the home game vs Leicester has now been moved to Sunday Dec 7th, 4pm kick off.
You have to be fe kin joking
Shitty zombies. Will they refund my train ticket cost for 6th?!
Actually if you send the unused tickets back to network rail -or whoever they are now - you will get a refund.
Why would you expect 'them' to ?
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Not sure if there's another thread this should go in but the home game vs Leicester has now been moved to Sunday Dec 7th, 4pm kick off.
You have to be fe kin joking
Shitty zombies. Will they refund my train ticket cost for 6th?!
Actually if you send the unused tickets back to network rail -or whoever they are now - you will get a refund.
Why would you expect 'them' to ?
I'd imagine that they're non-refundable if they've been bought this far in advance.
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Well that's most inconvenient. The Saturday is my nephew's 18th and match related plans were already taking shape for the occasion.
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Not sure if there's another thread this should go in but the home game vs Leicester has now been moved to Sunday Dec 7th, 4pm kick off.
You have to be fe kin joking
Shitty zombies. Will they refund my train ticket cost for 6th?!
Actually if you send the unused tickets back to network rail -or whoever they are now - you will get a refund.
Why would you expect 'them' to ?
I'd imagine that they're non-refundable if they've been bought this far in advance.
Non-refundable. Nevermind just need to pile in and buy a Sunday ticket then let my family know that they have an honoured guest all day Saturday and I'll be needing a sofa to kip on.
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Just actually remembered I'm going to see the Who on the 6th December art NIA so going to have to leg it from the Leicester game. Cheers Sky, could've done with it being half 1 at least.
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One Saturday 3pm home game left (if they don't change it) till 17th January and that will probably be moved to 5:30pm. (Liverpool)
Chelsea after that so I can see that changing to 12:45 or Sunday
So potentially our next 3pm Sat home game could be Feb 21st ::)
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When do Sky normally announce their games for December? I am thinking about the possibility of our trip to The Shrine being pushed back to 17:30.
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They already have.
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For the rest of this calendar year I think all games have been chosen. I don't know when they start choosing the Jan games. The Palace game is still listed as "Date & Time to be Confirmed"
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But they really should bugger off to Wales, and take Cardiff, Newport, Merthyr Tydfil, Colwyn Bay and Shrewsbury with them.
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Excuse me, The Stiperstones are closer to Wales than Shrewsbury is, and you should know that with a Welsh name like Dave. ;)
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But they really should bugger off to Wales, and take Cardiff, Newport, Merthyr Tydfil, Colwyn Bay and Shrewsbury with them.
Excuse me, The Stiperstones are closer to Wales than Shrewsbury is, and you should know that with a Welsh name like Dave. ;)
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Blame my mother.
Anyway, I should have said Hereford, I like Shrewsbury, lot's of very lovely pubs.
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And it's only going to get worse...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2794550/premier-league-axe-saturday-games-sky-sports-bt-happy.html
I've had a ST since 78/78, but frankly it's just becoming a waste of time & money.
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And it's only going to get worse...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2794550/premier-league-axe-saturday-games-sky-sports-bt-happy.html
I've had a ST since 78/78, but frankly it's just becoming a waste of time & money.
That headline is quite alarming. I'm already giving the Sunday 4pm games the finger due to family reasons. Now they're talking of an extra Sunday evening game. It won't be worth buying a ST at this rate soon. Come to think of it, it probably isn't already.
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I think ST are ridiculously expensive and, what with the stupid match times as well, were I in the UK, there is no way I would have one now. I used to have one, mind.
I think people should just stop going, en masse. They will soon start changing things if they are playing in front of empty stadia.
That said, they would probably use it as an excuse to play games overseas!
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Looks like another later game on a Saturday in the future.
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And it's only going to get worse...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2794550/premier-league-axe-saturday-games-sky-sports-bt-happy.html
I've had a ST since 78/78, but frankly it's just becoming a waste of time & money.
I can't say I like the idea of travelling back from games at 9pm on a Sunday night. It's a horrible suggestion.
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If I was watching an extraordinary display of technical skill, mind-boggling physical prowess and passion from Villa then I wouldn't mind so much...
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I haven't read the article but for a long time have wondered how long it would be before Saturday and Sunday nights had a live game.
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I like how they make it seem as though it's a hardship not showing half the PL games live on TV.
So one option being looked at by the league and mooted in ongoing talks with broadcast partners is increasing the number of live matches to be sold. That went up from 138 to 154 in the last auction but is still less than half the 380 games in a PL season.
An extra Sunday night slot — like Spain’s La Liga — could be shoehorned into the TV schedule to give BT the opportunity to screen more games, while Sky would at least retain their current share.
BT chief executive Gavin Patterson has made no secret of their support for this option, saying: ‘It is a very interesting point. If there were more games available we would be very interested.’
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Sunday, or Saturday, evening games would pretty much guarantee me not having a ST again. I remember the FAC 5th round against Citeh in 2006 being a Sunday eve game, 6.30? It was wank playing at that time, and not that popular as only about 20,000 of us turned up. And it was a crap atmosphere even before Micah fucking Richards popped up in injury time.
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..and then he swore live on-air to Garth (B)Crooks. Maybe that's the only way to stop all this tv football saturation, tell the players to eff, blind and "give the wankers" to the cameras at every conceivable opportunidy.
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A Sunday night game would be a real kick in the bollocks to fans.
But we don't matter, so it will go ahead anyway.
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I wonder why you never hear a terrace chant of hatred towards Sky?
All four sides of a football ground in unison, both sets of real football supporters singing as one to the football viewers sat at home enjoying their Sunday dinner.
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I wonder why you never hear a terrace chant of hatred towards Sky?
All four sides of a football ground in unison, both sets of real football supporters singing as one to the football viewers sat at home enjoying their Sunday dinner.
The F.A and Premier league have a lot to answer for as well. You would like to think they'd reject any proposals for a Saturday or Sunday night game, but it's no guarantee is it?
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Sunday, or Saturday, evening games would pretty much guarantee me not having a ST again. I remember the FAC 5th round against Citeh in 2006 being a Sunday eve game, 6.30? It was wank playing at that time, and not that popular as only about 20,000 of us turned up. And it was a crap atmosphere even before Micah fucking Richards popped up in injury time.
this is me PWS, I like many others choose to travel a fair distance...myself it is a 240 mile round trip for home games and this would be the final straw. The constant movement of our home games has started to wear me down in recent seasons.
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I wonder why you never hear a terrace chant of hatred towards Sky?
All four sides of a football ground in unison, both sets of real football supporters singing as one to the football viewers sat at home enjoying their Sunday dinner.
Because the Premier League and the clubs in it that are the root cause, not Sky. Admittedly Sky have the money to tempt the PL, but if it wasn't them it'd be BT or Al Jazeera, or some other network.
The next contract is going to be even more insane as Sky try to outbid BT, but the PL see an opportunity to make even more by offering more games and that's just even greedier.
I'm a genuine armchair fan these days (though next year we plan to move back to the Midlands and a season ticket) and will pretty much watch anything, but I've just about reached saturation point with TV games.
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I wonder why you never hear a terrace chant of hatred towards Sky?
All four sides of a football ground in unison, both sets of real football supporters singing as one to the football viewers sat at home enjoying their Sunday dinner.
Because football supporters would rather hate each other than the real enemy.
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Sky filmed us on the coach going to Palace for their pre-season adverts. We gave them dogs abuse.
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Suspect it will only get worse until it gets better, the Premier League are 'lucky' that they have the product they do - by rights the league should be like Spain or Germany where the top 2/3 teams just pan the little teams for fun - we are getting there but we do still have competition hence making it so attractive.
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So 8pm Sunday night games. Oh the mrs will be happy.
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Pretty sure there was some anti TV chants a while back but they just turned the mics down so the people watching couldn't hear.
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So 8pm Sunday night games. Oh the mrs will be happy.
Yes, she probably will.
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Miiiiiiiaow.
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But they really should bugger off to Wales, and take Cardiff, Newport, Merthyr Tydfil, Colwyn Bay and Shrewsbury with them.
Excuse me, The Stiperstones are closer to Wales than Shrewsbury is, and you should know that with a Welsh name like Dave. ;)
Blame my mother.
Anyway, I should have said Hereford, I like Shrewsbury, lot's of very lovely pubs.
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My elder son is also a Dave, and he gets ribbed by his B'ham based Villa mates for being Welsh, even though he was born in Dudley Road Hospital! You're right about the pubs here; the staff in my office have spent most of today deciding where best to go for a leaving do next month, simply because there's such a good choice.
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Pretty sure there was some anti TV chants a while back but they just turned the mics down so the people watching couldn't hear.
United FC used to have that song that went "I am a Mancunian, I am an FC fan,........I want to destroy, Glaser and Sky" to the tune of Pretty Vacant
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Arsenal away has been moved to Sunday 1st February at 1:30 and will be shown on sky.
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Arsenal away has been moved to Sunday 1st February at 1:30 and will be shown on sky.
Is that confirmed? I've got a mate coming over from Amsterdam to watch this, arriving on Saturday morning, flying back on Sunday afternoon
edit - I've just seen the announcement from Sky
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Keep looking to see when the Manure game will be moved...
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Arsenal away has been moved to Sunday 1st February at 1:30 and will be shown on sky.
That one isn't too bad as it is easy enough to get to London from Birmingham or most other places. Could be an interesting game too if Arsenal in flattering to deceive mode, and we are in a dog fight which of course right now is looking likely.
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Worry about Sunday night games, I heard a whisper out here in the desert, that the Middle East contributors are pushing for a Friday night prem game (their weekend being Friday and Saturday), if they are to continue loading Sky with their riyals and other assorted sheckles.
So that would be Friday night, Saturday here already 3 games, in fact last weekend all Prem games that kicked off at 15.00hrs were shown live, Sunday lunch, Sunday afternoon and then Monday night,
Carry on like that and they will have to increase the number of teams in the prem.
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Worry about Sunday night games, I heard a whisper out here in the desert, that the Middle East contributors are pushing for a Friday night prem game (their weekend being Friday and Saturday), if they are to continue loading Sky with their riyals and other assorted sheckles.
So that would be Friday night, Saturday here already 3 games, in fact last weekend all Prem games that kicked off at 15.00hrs were shown live, Sunday lunch, Sunday afternoon and then Monday night,
Carry on like that and they will have to increase the number of teams in the prem.
There's been talk of a Sunday evening game as well.
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I can't think of anything that would persuade me to go to a match on a Sunday night. Well football related anyway!
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Pretty sure there was some anti TV chants a while back but they just turned the mics down so the people watching couldn't hear.
United FC used to have that song that went "I am a Mancunian, I am an FC fan,........I want to destroy, Glaser and Sky" to the tune of Pretty Vacant
Are you sure it wasn't to the tune of Anarchy in the UK Pat?
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Virgin have complained to OFCOM about the way TV rights are distributed by the Premier League, and in particular that the number of live games available is far lower than elsewhere in Europe.
F@ck right off.
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Every PL game will be live on TV in a few years time, it's going to happen and there is bugger all we can do about it.
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Every PL game will be live on TV in a few years time, it's going to happen and there is bugger all we can do about it.
You're wrong.
We can get relegated - that'll show them all.
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We may get those Friday games and more staggered kick-off times:-
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2839214/End-Premier-League-rip-Watchdog-launches-probe-600-year-cost-watching-flight-football-matches.html
Eventually they'll just play in virtual stadiums with CGI crowds so that
they can play live at a time that suits the Far East, Indian and Middle Eastern 'customer' fans.
After all, they don't care about those us with season tickets.
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Pretty sure there was some anti TV chants a while back but they just turned the mics down so the people watching couldn't hear.
United FC used to have that song that went "I am a Mancunian, I am an FC fan,........I want to destroy, Glaser and Sky" to the tune of Pretty Vacant
Are you sure it wasn't to the tune of Anarchy in the UK Pat?
Correct Percy and well spotted. At least I got the group right!
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We may get those Friday games and more staggered kick-off times:-
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2839214/End-Premier-League-rip-Watchdog-launches-probe-600-year-cost-watching-flight-football-matches.html
Eventually they'll just play in virtual stadiums with CGI crowds so that
they can play live at a time that suits the Far East, Indian and Middle Eastern 'customer' fans.
After all, they don't care about those us with season tickets.
Virgin complained that only 42% of games shown live which is too low. I think from 2017 we will have Friday nights and Sunday nights added to the schedule . I am almost done with this BS
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I argued on another thread that the current fan is going to become so irrelevant. The revenue from TV and other incomes such as sponsorship will make the gate money insignificant. However to have a team (i.e. brand) that the TV companies want to broadcast they'll need a full stadium/atmosphere. As a consequence clubs will have to start pandering to fans to produce the 'show' TV demands. The easiest way to do that is cheaper or free tickets.
It's a similar model to all the free newspapers which are handed out. Give enough newspapers away and the circulation becomes enough to convince companies to pay more for the advertising space. This extra income covers the cost of the lost revenue from physically selling the papers.
What I've not worked out is whether this is a good or a bad thing for the average match attending fan.
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Match going fans are pretty insignificant financially to clubs to now. Imagine you go to most games a season, and spend say £2,000 a year doing so. Do that for 50 years. Congrats, you haven't even spent enough over those 50 years to keep Darren Bent on the bench for 2 weeks.
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I imagine one day it will be cheaper to go to games than to stay at home and watch them on TV
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Match going fans are pretty insignificant financially to clubs to now. Imagine you go to most games a season, and spend say £2,000 a year doing so. Do that for 50 years. Congrats, you haven't even spent enough over those 50 years to keep Darren Bent on the bench for 2 weeks.
And it's that sort of stat that keeps me away from football.
I really must go to my local non-league teams more. I just can't decide whether to adopt Sheffield FC or Hallam FC. The former has a better pub, the latter is closer and has a pub too.
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Here we go...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/competitions/premier-league/11290531/Premier-League-to-be-shown-on-Friday-nights-for-the-first-time.html
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Here we go...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/competitions/premier-league/11290531/Premier-League-to-be-shown-on-Friday-nights-for-the-first-time.html
Oh dear! And as if ten Friday night games per season wasn't of sufficient concern, it seems that ITV are planning a bid for the highlights package as well.
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Actually that article is fulse there has been live PL football broadcast on a Friday night before, remember during the 90s (Gregory era I think), we played out a pretty dull 0-0 with West Ham on a Good Friday or something like that?
This would be pants mostly for supporters, but hey it is still a long way off, and maybe our love for Football will have been totally drained by that time ;)
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Good Friday games used to be pretty regular. I prefer the idea of Friday night to Sunday night games at least. Just a personal preference. I can't see the police liking Friday night games though. I hope they give plenty of notice so as it's possible to book a Friday off work if we're away.
Oh, and did nobody tell the Torygraph that West Ham are moving?
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QPR at home and Man City away both moved now - QPR to Monday night (subject to FA Cup semi commitments !) and Man City to 5.30pm
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QPR at home and Man City away both moved now - QPR to Monday night (subject to FA Cup semi commitments !) and Man City to 5.30pm
QPR home...fuck it ! Villa just have to win the Quarter-Final now....
UTV
The Doc
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QPR at home and Man City away both moved now - QPR to Monday night (subject to FA Cup semi commitments !) and Man City to 5.30pm
Somebody better tell the Club, their website still has the original dates/times.
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QPR at home and Man City away both moved now - QPR to Monday night (subject to FA Cup semi commitments !) and Man City to 5.30pm
Somebody better tell the Club, their website still has the original dates/times.
The story is up on the website, so i'm sure they know.
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Just paid to treat a mate to a meal etc in trinity restaurant etc etc looking forward to great week end and now sky do this.
Murdoch your an asshole
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Fucking marvellous , so we could be playing a Saturday semi then a vital league game on the Monday night
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Sky should subsidise tickets for games they re-arrange. More fans in the ground makes games better to watch on TV, in my opinion.
I obviously acknowledge Sky pay a hell of a lot for their 'rights' so they're allowed the freedom to move games.
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Sky should subsidise tickets for games they re-arrange. More fans in the ground makes games better to watch on TV, in my opinion.
I obviously acknowledge Sky pay a hell of a lot for their 'rights' so they're allowed the freedom to move games.
£11m per game (new deal)
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How bloody much!?
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How bloody much!?
That's what sky have paid per game.
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Yep, BT got theirs for a bargain £7m a match...
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Yep, BT got theirs for a bargain £7m a match...
And we have Stoke City vs Hull City...
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Fucking marvellous , so we could be playing a Saturday semi then a vital league game on the Monday night
It'll be moved if we're in the cup semi-final, I assume.
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Of course it will be moved if we are in the semis. It's classed as a weekend game.
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Of course it will be moved if we are in the semis. It's classed as a weekend game.
Will it ?
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Of course it will be moved if we are in the semis. It's classed as a weekend game.
It'll definitely be moved if we play on the Sunday. I'd hope it would be moved if we played Saturday too, but we often seem to get shafted in these matters.
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Of course it will be moved if we are in the semis. It's classed as a weekend game.
Will it ?
Of course it will.
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Of course it will be moved if we are in the semis. It's classed as a weekend game.
Will it ?
Of course it will.
Even say if we played Saturday at noon ?
I don't trust them.
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Yes teams that play in the FA cup semis will then play their league game in midweek, probably the last week before the end of the season.
So potentially we could finish with QPR and Burnley at home.
Hold onto your hats.....
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Of course it will be moved if we are in the semis. It's classed as a weekend game.
Will it ?
Of course it will.
Even say if we played Saturday at noon ?
I don't trust them.
Because the FA, Premier League and TV companies are all in a conspiracy against us...
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It's not that they're in a conspiracy against us. However, I can see a chance that they wouldn't bother moving a game Sky had scheduled just because we requested it, whereas they'd bend over backwards to help Man U or Liverpool in such circumstances.
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It's still a weekend game.
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Yes teams that play in the FA cup semis will then play their league game in midweek, probably the last week before the end of the season.
So potentially we could finish with QPR and Burnley at home.
Hold onto your hats.....
If they're both already "gone" that's a plus.
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It's not that they're in a conspiracy against us. However, I can see a chance that they wouldn't bother moving a game Sky had scheduled just because we requested it, whereas they'd bend over backwards to help Man U or Liverpool in such circumstances.
You would think that this would be the opportunity for Call Me Dave to ring in a favour.
Should it happen, like.
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Of course it will be moved if we are in the semis. It's classed as a weekend game.
Will it ?
Of course it will.
Even say if we played Saturday at noon ?
I don't trust them.
Because the FA, Premier League and TV companies are all in a conspiracy against us...
Agree. It does appear that way at times.
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QPR at home and Man City away both moved now - QPR to Monday night (subject to FA Cup semi commitments !) and Man City to 5.30pm
QPR home...fuck it ! Villa just have to win the Quarter-Final now....
As Sir Taylor would say "Do I not like that" Was hopeing to go to the QPR. Will be in Morecambe at the time so might be tough if its on a Monday.
UTV
The Doc
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Agree. It does appear that way at times.
Jesus has already wept for you SV!
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From PRAVDA
Both of our league derby games against Birmingham City have been put back 24 hours.
The decision has been taken on West Midlands Police advice for safety and operational reasons.
The first meeting between the sides will now take place at St. Andrew's on Sunday October 29 with a 12noon kick-off.
The trip to Villa Park has been rescheduled for Sunday February 11, again with a 12noon start.
Our Boxing Day encounter at Brentford has been moved forward an hour, meaning it now kicks off at 2pm and not 3pm.
Our away game at Hull City has also been moved forward, switching from Saturday March 31 to Friday March 30. The game will remain as a 3pm kick-off.
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Eeesh. I turn 40 on the day we play Blues at home. Talk about having your mortality reflected back at you.
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Eeesh. I turn 40 on the day we play Blues at home. Talk about having your mortality reflected back at you.
Age is just a number mate !!!!!!!
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Eeesh. I turn 40 on the day we play Blues at home. Talk about having your mortality reflected back at you.
Age is just a number mate !!!!!!!
It's not my age that I'm worried about, it's them!
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Glad we are away Easter weekend. It was ludicrous that we disadvantaged ourselves by only having a two day gap out if deference to some Sky Fairy lovers.
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Bristol City Friday night 19:45 August 25th....get in!!
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Bristol is a very underrated night out.
One of my favourite cities in the U.K.
Surprised we're not on TV more, only 2 games compared to I think the 6 we were on last season up to October.
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3 times including Colchester
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Let's hope we fair better in front of the cameras next season!!
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Are the fixtures up to October now ''locked-in'' ? Was thinking of going to the Bolton home game end of Sep. That will make it 2 years since my last VP visit, mental how fast the months go...
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Are the fixtures up to October now ''locked-in'' ? Was thinking of going to the Bolton home game end of Sep. That will make it 2 years since my last VP visit, mental how fast the months go...
Looks like just up to 9 Sep at the moment
http://www.live-footballontv.com/live-championship-football-on-tv.html
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Will hold off then, ta.
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We're at Bristol and Mordor pretty much the same weekend as last year's fixtures aren't we?
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Bristol is a very underrated night out.
One of my favourite cities in the U.K.
The finest city for gigs (closely followed by Manchester and London)
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Bristol City Friday night 19:45 August 25th....get in!!
So the night before my holiday in Somerset starts. Fucking great.
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I am selfish so this works wonders for me
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Bristol City Friday night 19:45 August 25th....get in!!
Am pissed off. A good saturday game ruined by a Friday night kick off.
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The last train out of Bristol is 10pm. So your choice is drive, go on the boring coach, or stay over.
Given this inconvenience, I really hope the club hurry the fuck up and get tickets on sale so we can plan accordingly. For once.
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Bristol is a very underrated night out.
One of my favourite cities in the U.K.
Surprised we're not on TV more, only 2 games compared to I think the 6 we were on last season up to October.
I think Bristol is great for a weekend away.
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The last train out of Bristol is 10pm. So your choice is drive, go on the boring coach, or stay over.
Given this inconvenience, I really hope the club hurry the fuck up and get tickets on sale so we can plan accordingly. For once.
I've walked from Bedminster back to Temple Meads before, pretty sure it took me about 20 minutes and the ground is only another 5 minutes up the road so it could be feasible to make the last train back if you're out sharpish on 90 minutes.
Or get a taxi if there's some outside the ground.
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There's plenty on none boring coaches to go on.
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The last train out of Bristol is 10pm. So your choice is drive, go on the boring coach, or stay over.
Given this inconvenience, I really hope the club hurry the fuck up and get tickets on sale so we can plan accordingly. For once.
I've walked from Bedminster back to Temple Meads before, pretty sure it took me about 20 minutes and the ground is only another 5 minutes up the road so it could be feasible to make the last train back if you're out sharpish on 90 minutes.
Or get a taxi if there's some outside the ground.
Yes. Less than 20 minutes if you have a spring in your step and gasping for ale.
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Hotel booked. Brizzol is a good night out - even more so with 3 points in the bag. Gert lush!
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I think we've decided to make a weekend of it... assuming we can get tickets. Missed out last time but guessing that the move to a Friday night and it being on telly should mean I just about make the requirements.
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Bristol City Friday night 19:45 August 25th....get in!!
So the night before my holiday in Somerset starts. Fucking great.
Same here. I'm going away with my girlfriends family to Dorset. They booked it last year, so I did say I was waiting for the fixtures to be announced to confirm whether I'd be traveling down Friday/Saturday/Sunday. Absolute touch that the game's been moved to the Friday night!!!
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Surprised we're not on TV more, only 2 games compared to I think the 6 we were on last season up to October.
Having watched us last season can't say i'm too surprised we're not on more often.
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Bristol City Friday night 19:45 August 25th....get in!!
So the night before my holiday in Somerset starts. Fucking great.
Same here. I'm going away with my girlfriends family to Dorset. They booked it last year, so I did say I was waiting for the fixtures to be announced to confirm whether I'd be traveling down Friday/Saturday/Sunday. Absolute touch that the game's been moved to the Friday night!!!
I think you misunderstood. My holiday is at my caravan and starts on the Saturday. It is let out until the Saturday morning.
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you could stay at a hotel for the night ;)
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you could stay at a hotel for the night ;)
Or use my keys and crash in the lounge. Be a nice surprise when they wake up I reckon.
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Bristol City Friday night 19:45 August 25th....get in!!
So the night before my holiday in Somerset starts. Fucking great.
Same here. I'm going away with my girlfriends family to Dorset. They booked it last year, so I did say I was waiting for the fixtures to be announced to confirm whether I'd be traveling down Friday/Saturday/Sunday. Absolute touch that the game's been moved to the Friday night!!!
I think you misunderstood. My holiday is at my caravan and starts on the Saturday. It is let out until the Saturday morning.
Ah I did, bugger.
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Are the fixtures up to October now ''locked-in'' ? Was thinking of going to the Bolton home game end of Sep. That will make it 2 years since my last VP visit, mental how fast the months go...
Looks like just up to 9 Sep at the moment
http://www.live-footballontv.com/live-championship-football-on-tv.html
Really hope they don't move the Forest game in September to a Sunday. I'm at christening on the Sunday.
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I'm hoping that they do move the Forest game to Sunday. I'm at Liverpool PsychFest that weekend. I've already given up my ticket for the NFL game on the Sunday but I could make Villa Park
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I'd like them to move the Forest game to about November so I'll be back off my holiday.
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I'm hoping that they do move the Forest game to Sunday. I'm at Liverpool PsychFest that weekend. I've already given up my ticket for the NFL game on the Sunday but I could make Villa Park
Don't think they'll move it to the Sunday - that's the day of the Birmingham Velo event (https://velobirmingham.com/the-route/) and there's full road closures all over the shop
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I'm hoping that they do move the Forest game to Sunday. I'm at Liverpool PsychFest that weekend. I've already given up my ticket for the NFL game on the Sunday but I could make Villa Park
Don't think they'll move it to the Sunday - that's the day of the Birmingham Velo event (https://velobirmingham.com/the-route/) and there's full road closures all over the shop
Cue SKY insisting on game being moved....
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I think they'll go heavy on our coverage if start brightly but in any event we're still the biggest TV draw in the division by a country mile.
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Terry will make us even more of a draw. Our fixtures are going to be messed about with until at least March. If we are still in the hunt then, it'll be the whole season.
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Barnsley (A) game on 16/09/2017 now a 17:30pm ko
Forest (H) game on 23/09/2017 now a 17:30pm ko
Both Games now live on SKY
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Good job they are on Sky, you cant buy a bloody ticket!
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I see that before the end of September we will have been shown live five times already. Forest at home has now been moved to 5.30 as has Barnsley away. I think it is safe to say we will need to get over our 'Sky illness' this season to have any chance of doing anything.
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Is there a complete list available of the Sky matches (and any others that won't be available on AVTV Live)?
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Is there a complete list available of the Sky matches (and any others that won't be available on AVTV Live)?
They always end up here... http://www.live-footballontv.com
It's not a full list, though... as Sky have only annouced their live fixtures up to and including 1st October.
For us, so far...
Hull (h) Saturday 5th August at 1730
Colchester (a) (League Cup) Wednesday 9th August at 1945
Bristol City (a) Friday 25th August at 1945
Barnsley (a) Saturday 16th September at 1730
Forest (h) Saturday 23rd September at 1730.
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They always end up here... http://www.live-footballontv.com (http://www.live-footballontv.com)
It's not a full list, though... as Sky have only annouced their live fixtures up to and including 1st October.
For us, so far...
Hull (h) Saturday 5th August at 1730
Colchester (a) (League Cup) Wednesday 9th August at 1945
Bristol City (a) Friday 25th August at 1945
Barnsley (a) Saturday 16th September at 1730
Forest (h) Saturday 23rd September at 1730.
Cheers cd!
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No worries. I do think buying on a game-by-game basis may work out better value, especially for those in unfriendly timezones who won't be able to watch every available game.
To be honest, the thought that I'll still be able to watch Villa games wherever I go has put me off moving abroad....
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They always end up here... http://www.live-footballontv.com (http://www.live-footballontv.com)
It's not a full list, though... as Sky have only annouced their live fixtures up to and including 1st October.
For us, so far...
Hull (h) Saturday 5th August at 1730
Colchester (a) (League Cup) Wednesday 9th August at 1945
Bristol City (a) Friday 25th August at 1945
Barnsley (a) Saturday 16th September at 1730
Forest (h) Saturday 23rd September at 1730.
Cheers cd!
Ballsed up that post!
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Does anyone know how close to match day Sky could decide if it is to be televised? I'm trying to work out if AVTV Live is better by month or match-by-match. Cheers
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On the basis of so far they are giving about two to three months notice. It may be less as the season goes on, and if our final game is televised they may only decide a few days beforehand... depending on where we/our opponents are in the league.
I reckon we'll average at least one or two televised games per month, but that's just a guess.
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Cheers!
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I reckon it will be around 16-25 live games depending on how well we're doing. Later in the season it drops to about a month's notice I think.
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I reckon it will be around 16-25 live games depending on how well we're doing. Later in the season it drops to about a month's notice I think.
Thanks PWS
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You know that whichever you choose it will be the wrong one!
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There's a 2017-18 'Fixtures Moved" thread
http://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?topic=57546.0
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Wolves away now 5.30 on the Saturday
Small Heath away on Sky aswell
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There's a 2017-18 'Fixtures Moved" thread
http://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?topic=57546.0
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Wolves away now 5.30 on the Saturday
Small Heath away on Sky aswell
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Could a Mod/Admin please close this thread. There's already a 2017/18 version
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Thanks for the updates - AVTV Live on a match by match basis looks the best way to go now...
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Good news regarding the derbies.
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Wolves away now 5.30 on the Saturday
Small Heath away on Sky aswell
Hardly a surprise.
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Is there a specific date for the next round of re-arranged fixtures (Christmas) to be released or is it a case of keeping an eye out? Need Derby to stay Sat 16th Dec.
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Is there a specific date for the next round of re-arranged fixtures (Christmas) to be released or is it a case of keeping an eye out? Need Derby to stay Sat 16th Dec.
Judging by the season so far just presume we are kicking off at 5.30 Saturdays for the rest of the season and 90% of the time that will be the case. The bonus being the noses will be well pissed off at "the bleedin Villa always being on TV more often than Crossroads used to be'.
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Is there a specific date for the next round of re-arranged fixtures (Christmas) to be released or is it a case of keeping an eye out? Need Derby to stay Sat 16th Dec.
Cheers, I've also been told it's 5 weeks minimum notice - 16th Dec to 13th Jan need to be announced by 3rd November.
Judging by the season so far just presume we are kicking off at 5.30 Saturdays for the rest of the season and 90% of the time that will be the case. The bonus being the noses will be well pissed off at "the bleedin Villa always being on TV more often than Crossroads used to be'.
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Leeds away beginning of December will definitely be on TV. Derby away on the 16th potentially depending on how we're both doing. Boro away on the 30th will definitely be on. Forest away on the 13th Jan is another potential one. I reckon at least 3 of those 4 will be on.
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Can see Sunderland at home being a TV game although pretty sure it's midweek so dosen't change too much.
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Sunderland is on a Champions League night so I don't think it will be on telly.
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Sheffield United might be too, if we both carry on our form.
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Sunderland is on a Champions League night so I don't think it will be on telly.
Cardiff v Leeds was on Sky last night whilst the Champions League games were on BT
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Oh okay, didn't realise that. They must have changed the rules since last season.
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It's not been moved, but Preston away is now on the tellybox.
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Sunderland not on the box games for November and part of December have been announced.
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First weekend of December still to be announced so Leeds away will still be on imo.
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Why on earth have they done it like that? Left a random weekend out?
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Sheffield United might be too, if we both carry on our form.
Just checked when that is....December 23rd. Please don't tell me they're thinking of sticking that on Christmas Eve, bad enough the Premier League doing it.
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Sheffield United might be too, if we both carry on our form.
Just checked when that is....December 23rd. Please don't tell me they're thinking of sticking that on Christmas Eve, bad enough the Premier League doing it.
We play Brentford away on boxing day, so surely not?
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Leeds away moved to Friday 1st Dec (Friday night kick off).
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Oh, fuck off.
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Wankers. Tickets will be £40+ aswell. Wonder if the club will do any offer like free travel etc to compensate for it?
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Oh yesssssssss. I was going to have to miss the Saturday. Now it's a night out in Leeds as well. Happy fookin days
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Is Leeds good, then?
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Leeds away moved to Friday 1st Dec (Friday night kick off).
Travel nightmare
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Is Leeds good, then?
Yep, lots going on.
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I can't go to this now 😡😡😡
If anyone needs a ref I've got 3 with all aways on
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Games on Christmas Eve is taking the piss.
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Is Leeds good, then?
Yep, lots going on.
If you say so - not a patch on Sheffield ha ha - for students anyway.
Seriously there are some decent bars in the city centre but also some dodgy gaffs. Not my fav city football or not. A decent alternative close by is Wakefield wall to wall bars
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Wakefield is a s***hole.
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Any news on the dates for the december tv fixtures? When are they announced?
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Is Leeds good, then?
Yep, lots going on.
If you say so - not a patch on Sheffield ha ha - for students anyway.
Seriously there are some decent bars in the city centre but also some dodgy gaffs. Not my fav city football or not. A decent alternative close by is Wakefield wall to wall bars
Or Harrogate. Or York. Or Donnie.
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Any news on the dates for the december tv fixtures? When are they announced?
TV games up to 11 Dec have been announced so far
http://www.live-footballontv.com/live-championship-football-on-tv.html
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Has somebody really suggested Wakefield as a decent alternative to Leeds?
The only thing Wakefield has over Leeds is a Category A prison.
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home to sheff utd on 23rd dec moved to 5.30pm for tv
boxing day at brentford moved to 7.30pm for tv
away at notts forest in january also moved to the 5.30pm ko for tv
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home to sheff utd on 23rd dec moved to 5.30pm for tv
boxing day at brentford moved to 7.30pm for tv
away at notts forest in january also moved to the 5.30pm ko for tv
be a good chrimbo booze up against Sheffield United.
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home to sheff utd on 23rd dec moved to 5.30pm for tv
boxing day at brentford moved to 7.30pm for tv
away at notts forest in january also moved to the 5.30pm ko for tv
the brentford one is a disgrace and inconsiderate, we all know the train situation on boxing day. Not every one wants to use official organised coaches.
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What train situation? As I understand it, there are no trains on Boxing Day? I was hoping that game would be moved to the 27th. Will have to watch the game with my Bluenose relatives now. Great.
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My fear was the Sheffield United game would be moved to the Friday night. Still a pain but 5:30 Saturday is much better than 7:45 Friday.
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What train situation? As I understand it, there are no trains on Boxing Day? I was hoping that game would be moved to the 27th. Will have to watch the game with my Bluenose relatives now. Great.
I think that is precisely it.
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Boxing day at half 7 is awful, we had this years ago against Stoke and many boycotted the game IIRC.
Should be rules saying you can't show live games past certain times.
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Boxing day at half 7 is awful, we had this years ago against Stoke and many boycotted the game IIRC.
Should be rules saying you can't show live games past certain times.
I'm not sure about that in general but it is a bit late for a Boxing Day fixture.
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home to sheff utd on 23rd dec moved to 5.30pm for tv
boxing day at brentford moved to 7.30pm for tv
away at notts forest in january also moved to the 5.30pm ko for tv
Totally senseless and without any regard for the fact that I will be in Australia and not able to watch matches kicking off at 04.30 and 06.30 :-[
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Do all of these TV matches add up to a significant amount of extra income for the club? We're becoming the ManUre of the Championship!
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Do all of these TV matches add up to a significant amount of extra income for the club? We're becoming the ManUre of the Championship!
No.
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Has somebody really suggested Wakefield as a decent alternative to Leeds?
The only thing Wakefield has over Leeds is a Category A prison.
I'm in Wakefield and have some good single malt whisky ...
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What train situation? As I understand it, there are no trains on Boxing Day? I was hoping that game would be moved to the 27th. Will have to watch the game with my Bluenose relatives now. Great.
I think that is precisely it.
Surely it's irrelevant as far as trains are concerned as there aren't any anyway?
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Will have to watch the game with my Bluenose relatives now. Great.
Get rid of these relatives and find new ones.🤔
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Bristol City 5:30 NYD?
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Do all of these TV matches add up to a significant amount of extra income for the club? We're becoming the ManUre of the Championship!
No.
Is that because TV money is already allocated equally amongst clubs? I note that from mid December to mid January we feature 3 times so more than any other club.
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Do all of these TV matches add up to a significant amount of extra income for the club? We're becoming the ManUre of the Championship!
No.
Is that because TV money is already allocated equally amongst clubs? I note that from mid December to mid January we feature 3 times so more than any other club.
Last year it was £100k for every home match and £10k for every away match televised.
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Boxing day at half 7 is awful, we had this years ago against Stoke and many boycotted the game IIRC.
Should be rules saying you can't show live games past certain times.
I'm not sure about that in general but it is a bit late for a Boxing Day fixture.
On a weekend game the latest TV game should be played at half 5. You should not be starting games later than that. Obviously midweek it's different.
Edit: Probably one downside of being seriously in the promotion shake up is many of our games will be moved for TV just like if we were doing well in the premier league.
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Bristol City 5:30 NYD?
I like the sound of that, more time to recover. I might even attend a New Year's Day game for the first time in about a decade.
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Do all of these TV matches add up to a significant amount of extra income for the club? We're becoming the ManUre of the Championship!
No.
We get £100k a game don't we? Enough for Gabby's wages for two weeks.
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According to Sky Sports website the Bristol City game is not a live match, so why is it a 5.30 KO?
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According to Sky Sports website the Bristol City game is not a live match, so why is it a 5.30 KO?
Don't we play Forest on the Saturday before at that time.
I believe we can ask for permission for 48 hours recovery time. Stoke did it a few years back on Easter Monday, played them at that time despite not being on TV.
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Bristol City 5:30 NYD?
I like the sound of that, more time to recover. I might even attend a New Year's Day game for the first time in about a decade.
Unlike me then, as due to a curmudgeonly nature I drink less alcohol on new years eve than I do on an average school night.
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I really can't be arsed with NYE. I would quite happily stay in but my friends won't let me.
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I really can't be arsed with NYE. I would quite happily stay in but my friends won't let me.
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Ha ha. Git 😊
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Football friend!
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According to Sky Sports website the Bristol City game is not a live match, so why is it a 5.30 KO?
Don't we play Forest on the Saturday before at that time.
I believe we can ask for permission for 48 hours recovery time. Stoke did it a few years back on Easter Monday, played them at that time despite not being on TV.
I believe that Bristol City v Wolves is on TV on Saturday 30th at 5.30pm. They have therefore triggered the 48 hour rule. Wolves meanwhile have moved their home game v Brentford back to 7.45pm on 2 Jan to give themselves additional recovery time.
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According to Sky Sports website the Bristol City game is not a live match, so why is it a 5.30 KO?
Don't we play Forest on the Saturday before at that time.
I believe we can ask for permission for 48 hours recovery time. Stoke did it a few years back on Easter Monday, played them at that time despite not being on TV.
I believe that Bristol City v Wolves is on TV on Saturday 30th at 5.30pm. They have therefore triggered the 48 hour rule. Wolves meanwhile have moved their home game v Brentford back to 7.45pm on 2 Jan to give themselves additional recovery time.
Ah right thought it was something like that.
I confused the dates as we're playing Forest away at half 5 on January 14th.
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Was it just me who thought AVTV was only for home matches?
I'll get me coat.
It'd be nice if the club provided a table that showed which future matches will be on AVTV and which are on SKY, ESPN, BT et al.
No more December matches will be added to Sky etc will they?
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Was it just me who thought AVTV was only for home matches?
I'll get me coat.
It'd be nice if the club provided a table that showed which future matches will be on AVTV and which are on SKY, ESPN, BT et al.
No more December matches will be added to Sky etc will they?
Agreed re the Club supplying a list of AVTV live fixtures, does anyone know if the QPR Game is on AVTV, been trying for a while to find out on the OS, maybe it's me but I can't find anything.....Godzvilla!
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Was it just me who thought AVTV was only for home matches?
I'll get me coat.
It'd be nice if the club provided a table that showed which future matches will be on AVTV and which are on SKY, ESPN, BT et al.
No more December matches will be added to Sky etc will they?
Agreed re the Club supplying a list of AVTV live fixtures, does anyone know if the QPR Game is on AVTV, been trying for a while to find out on the OS, maybe it's me but I can't find anything.....Godzvilla!
I would've thought all 3pm Saturday kickoffs would be available unless they've been picked up by an international broadcaster (which I'd be surprised by).
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does anyone know if the QPR Game is on AVTV, been trying for a while to find out on the OS, maybe it's me but I can't find anything.....Godzvilla!
It was up this morning as live video - but now it just says audio. WTF?
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does anyone know if the QPR Game is on AVTV, been trying for a while to find out on the OS, maybe it's me but I can't find anything.....Godzvilla!
It was up this morning as live video - but now it just says audio. WTF?
Very odd, I don't know what AVTV are playing at, either. They sold subscriptions to for the live Video of Sheff Wed game , did'nt show it and had to refund monies paid .
BTW....QPR advertising Live Video of the game for a fiver !..............Godzvilla!
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From AVFC Support on Twitter:
"AVTV is available for all games this season & for QPR there will only be live audio commentary"
And when I asked if video was only for home matches they replied:
"We make video available on AVTV for any game home or away which isn't broadcast on Sky or broadcast internationally"
BUT THE QPR MATCH ISN'T ON SKY OR BEING BROADCAST INTERNATIONALLY!!!!! was my reply
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This is getting close to taking money under false pretenses.
I paid for a season ticket and yet games that should be available are not.
Pretty hard to take, the club ripping off its fans.
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This is getting close to taking money under false pretenses.
I paid for a season ticket and yet games that should be available are not.
Pretty hard to take, the club ripping off its fans.
If you are on Twitter please write to @AVFCSupport - let's see what they say.
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Not much use for those having purchased season passes, but if it is just one game you want to view (and you live abroad)...
https://www.qpr.co.uk/news/club-news/watch-aston-villa-on-saturday-live-for-5/
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AVFC Support now confirm that QPR match video is on AVTV and apologise for the confusion
(but AVTV website still just shows audio - FFS)
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Still no sign of the live video for QPR being available on AVTV
Happy to send my money to QPR's offering...
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I have done the QPR fiver and now been told but Support that Video will be available.
Shambles
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From AVFC Support (via DM)
On the first AVTV page it only shows the 3 Audio options (yr, month & match) - but when you choose "Live Match Audio" for QPR on the next screen you can choose the just the QPR Live Match Video:
(http://thumb.ibb.co/iYNSQ6/SNAG_Program_0037.jpg) (http://ibb.co/iYNSQ6)
(http://thumb.ibb.co/kL1bJR/SNAG_Program_0038.jpg) (http://ibb.co/kL1bJR)
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This is getting close to taking money under false pretenses.
I paid for a season ticket and yet games that should be available are not.
Pretty hard to take, the club ripping off its fans.
Agreed, Chicago...and it beggars belief that they appear to be getting away with it. I would be be interested to know if they are a separate entity within the Villa Organisation, or part and parcel of. Who are they actually answerable to?. Also, their web page is like entering some sort Cyber Maze, for technically challenged person like myself, anyway ! ...........................Godzvilla!
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This is getting close to taking money under false pretenses.
I paid for a season ticket and yet games that should be available are not.
Pretty hard to take, the club ripping off its fans.
Agreed, Chicago...and it beggars belief that they appear to be getting away with it. I would be be interested to know if they are a separate entity within the Villa Organisation, or part and parcel of. Who are they actually answerable to?. Also, their web page is like entering some sort Cyber Maze, for technically challenged person like myself, anyway ! ...........................Godzvilla!
It’s not just me then, the website is awful.
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Was anyone on here able to login to AVTV Live yesterday? I kept being told that I needed to subscribe even though I had bought the match pass.
Complaints about AVTV can be sent to:
avtvsupport@streamamg.com
Dr T isn't very happy either:
https://twitter.com/Dr_TonyXia/status/931962155452239872 (https://twitter.com/Dr_TonyXia/status/931962155452239872)
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Was anyone on here able to login to AVTV Live yesterday? I kept being told that I needed to subscribe even though I had bought the match pass.
Complaints about AVTV can be sent to:
avtvsupport@streamamg.com
Dr T isn't very happy either:
https://twitter.com/Dr_TonyXia/status/931962155452239872 (https://twitter.com/Dr_TonyXia/status/931962155452239872)
Received this ( probably generic ) response to my complaints re the appalling 'service' recently provided by AVTV, although no mention of my comments about their 'Web Maze'. Great to see the good Doctor, taking an interest , albeit somewhat belatedly
Godzvilla!
Hi,
Thanks for your email.
I am sorry to hear of the problems you had with match on Saturday. AVTV, the club and the website provider will be looking into the issues you reported and will get back to you regarding any resolution as soon as possible.
We are sorry for any inconvenience caused and thank you for patience regarding this matter.
Kind regards,
Jack M
avtvsupport@streamamg.com
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AVFC Support are saying to email Stream AMG and ask for a refund
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The ****** at Stream AMG still haven't mentioned refunds - they just say that they are looking into the issues.
GIVE US BACK ARE MUNNY
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And I've just had an update that tonight's game won't be available on the app.
What a pile of shit.
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And I've just had an update that tonight's game won't be available on the app.
What a pile of shit.
Watched the game last night on AVTV ( excellent reception ) . When I checked, it was,nt advertised on Monday but it was yesterday. Still waiting for a ´proper´response to the issues I raised, promises, promises etc ................Godzvilla!
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Refund received for Saturday's AVTV fuck-up
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Does anyone know when the January TV schedule is being announced?
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Does anyone know when the January TV schedule is being announced?
It already has. Just Forest away on the box for us. Still Saturday 13th Jan but 5:30pm KO.
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Does anyone know when the January TV schedule is being announced?
It already has. Just Forest away on the box for us. Still Saturday 13th Jan but 5:30pm KO.
Not quite true. TV dates up to 13th announced.
From the EFL WEBSITE:
20th January to 3rd February announced by 8th December
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Pretty please leave Sheffield United and Fulham on a Saturday.
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Pretty please leave Sheffield United and Fulham on a Saturday.
I can see the Sheff Utd one being moved either to a Friday or a 5.30pm game.
I hope they don't move the Fulham game either.
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I thought it was a 5.30 game?
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I thought it was a 5.30 game?
I think that Clampy is referring to the SU away game. It’s one of those occasions when the reverse fixture follows quite quickly
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Sheffield United away is on FA cup fourth round weekend so very likely to be moved.
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I thought it was a 5.30 game?
I think that Clampy is referring to the SU away game. It’s one of those occasions when the reverse fixture follows quite quickly
Yes I was.
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Sheffield United away is on FA cup fourth round weekend so very likely to be moved.
<irony filter> I assume that’s coz the Blades are on a Cup run.</irony filter>
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Sheffield United away is on FA cup fourth round weekend so very likely to be moved.
... and Fulham's on 5th Round day
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Sheffield United away is on FA cup fourth round weekend so very likely to be moved.
<irony filter> I assume that’s coz the Blades are on a Cup run.</irony filter>
Yep!
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How did everyone get on with AVTV for the Ipswich match?
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How did everyone get on with AVTV for the Ipswich match?
Mostly fine to be fair.
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Just so I can book trains etc to what date are our games guaranteed no change for TV.
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Sheffield United away is on FA cup fourth round weekend so very likely to be moved.
... and Fulham's on 5th Round day
Please help us to be still in the cup. I have a wedding in Bristol that Saturday.
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It's our year, deal with it.
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Villa v Blues is live on SKY.
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Villa v Blues is live on SKY.
Has that been confirmed ?
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Villa v Blues is live on SKY.
Has that been confirmed ?
It is on here:
http://www.live-footballontv.com/live-championship-football-on-tv.html
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Villa v Blues is live on SKY.
Has that been confirmed ?
Yes
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I still haven't seen it confirmed on the Sky site ?
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When will we know for certain if Fulham is being left alone? Would rather book train tickets before the prices increase.
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When will we know for certain if Fulham is being left alone? Would rather book train tickets before the prices increase.
Been looking myself for this. Would have been moved by now surely?
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I was going to ask about Fulham as well. We're getting the choo choo down too.
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The next set of tv games are due out this week.
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Both teams are out of the cup now so that isn't an issue.
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Do sky normally put a live game on when the FA cup is on? If they do then this maybe a Friday night game. It’s the kids half term week so Friday night would be brilliant for me.
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They didn't televise any Football League games last year, just the Scottish League.
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No matches chosen for tv in the new batch released today. Next possible Tv game will be Wolves in March.
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No matches chosen for tv in the new batch released today. Next possible Tv game will be Wolves in March.
Strange, how many weeks did they pick from today?
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from the 18th Feb to 7th March
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Thank you, Horatio Hornblower.
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from the 18th Feb to 7th March
http://www.live-footballontv.com/live-championship-football-on-tv.html
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from the 18th Feb to 7th March
http://www.live-footballontv.com/live-championship-football-on-tv.html
Hardly a suprise we're not picked with games v Preston, Sheff Wed and QPR.
You can bet the 10th March game against Wolves will be on, then poss Reading on Easter Monday.
April has a number of matches that could be on, Cardiff, Leeds and Derby all being strong possibilities and even potentially Norwich if they get their shit together.
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Hopefully they don't fuck about with Norwich or Ipswich. Don't fancy setting out or getting back at three in the morning, thanks.
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I don't mind not being on Sky too often.
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I don't mind not being on Sky too often.
Good post Darren.
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The Wolves game is shown as being a 5.30 kick off on Sunday 10th March. Bit of an odd time, presumably for telly but they're normally earlier. Anybody know why that is?
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The Wolves game is shown as being a 5.30 kick off on Sunday 10th March. Bit of an odd time, presumably for telly but they're normally earlier. Anybody know why that is?
FA Cup quarter final day?
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10th March is a Saturday so a 5:30pm KO would not be that unusual.
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I was expecting the Wolves game to be moved especially as there won't be that many premier league games on that day.
We will now have played them four times in a row at half 5.
Remember when WMP insisted all derbies kicked off at 12pm.
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OS has it as a 3pm K.O, anyone know if it is a late kick off as me and some mates may go to this one.
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I was expecting the Wolves game to be moved especially as there won't be that many premier league games on that day.
We will now have played them four times in a row at half 5.
Remember when WMP insisted all derbies kicked off at 12pm.
They've never bothered about that one.
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10th March is a Saturday so a 5:30pm KO would not be that unusual.
So it is, apologies.
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OS has it as a 3pm K.O, anyone know if it is a late kick off as me and some mates may go to this one.
It's shown as 5.30 on the ticket booking site.
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I don't think it's in any doubt that it will be moved.
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I was expecting the Wolves game to be moved especially as there won't be that many premier league games on that day.
We will now have played them four times in a row at half 5.
Remember when WMP insisted all derbies kicked off at 12pm.
They've never bothered about that one.
The Molineux game was half five, and so was last year's Villa Park meeting.
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Hope it is a 5 30 game. VP under the lights in a big game > anything else.
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The Sheff Utd game next Tuesday is now live on the tellybox.
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The Sheff Utd game next Tuesday is now live on the tellybox.
So that'll be me bar-hopping up an Alp, trying to find somewhere showing the game.
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Hope it is a 5 30 game. VP under the lights in a big game > anything else.
I must say I do like 5.30pm kick offs.
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The Sheff Utd game next Tuesday is now live on the tellybox.
Where are you seeing that mate? It's not listed on the Sky TV listings.
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The Sheff Utd game next Tuesday is now live on the tellybox.
Where are you seeing that mate? It's not listed on the Sky TV listings.
It's not long been announced on the club's twitter page.
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Sky Sports have announced this on their website.
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A rarity us being on TV.
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I was expecting the Wolves game to be moved especially as there won't be that many premier league games on that day.
We will now have played them four times in a row at half 5.
Remember when WMP insisted all derbies kicked off at 12pm.
They've never bothered about that one.
We played Wolves home and away at 12pm in 03/04, neither were TV games. Same with West Brom in that period.
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I was expecting the Wolves game to be moved especially as there won't be that many premier league games on that day.
We will now have played them four times in a row at half 5.
Remember when WMP insisted all derbies kicked off at 12pm.
They've never bothered about that one.
We played Wolves home and away at 12pm in 03/04, neither were TV games. Same with West Brom in that period.
Alright so they bothered once, fourteen years ago.
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I was expecting the Wolves game to be moved especially as there won't be that many premier league games on that day.
We will now have played them four times in a row at half 5.
Remember when WMP insisted all derbies kicked off at 12pm.
They've never bothered about that one.
We played Wolves home and away at 12pm in 03/04, neither were TV games. Same with West Brom in that period.
I remember that but I think the reason they moved it to 12pm was just because of the Small Heath ‘Mad house’ influence. They quickly learned.
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The Sheff Utd game next Tuesday is now live on the tellybox.
So that'll be me bar-hopping up an Alp, trying to find somewhere showing the game.
This might assist you:-
http://www.allomatch.com/sport-bar/france
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The Sheff Utd game next Tuesday is now live on the tellybox.
So that'll be me bar-hopping up an Alp, trying to find somewhere showing the game.
This might assist you:-
http://www.allomatch.com/sport-bar/france
I’ll also be bar-hopping up an Alp; an Italian one, though.
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That game at the Molineux was brilliant. 3-0 in 10 or 15 minutes and we'd rattled the bar twice.
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That game at the Molineux was brilliant. 3-0 in 10 or 15 minutes and we'd rattled the bar twice.
Angel's goal was class that day, toe poked it in from about 20 yards after a great pass from Solano.
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When are the re-fixtures released? I want to travel to Leeds at home, but don't want to commit to flights, hotel, etc. unless I'm sure it's on 14th Apr 15:00.
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Leeds will 99% be on TV. Two biggest clubs in the league and both in or around the play offs.
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Likewise, thinking of going to Brum for that weekend and staying to see Arcade Fire at the NEC on the Sun. Hoping it doesn't get moved to Friday.
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Doesn't it all move to a rolling five-week notice period now? A real pain in the arse when train tickets start getting more expensive around that point.
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Leeds will 99% be on TV. Two biggest clubs in the league and both in or around the play offs.
There's no way Leeds are bigger than Wolves, Wednesday or Sunderland. The most over-hyped club in England.
It will still be on telly though, due to said hype and the fact that we are, obviously, massive.
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Biggest in terms of attendances this season he may have meant.
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Leeds will 99% be on TV. Two biggest clubs in the league and both in or around the play offs.
By the time we play Yorkshire Whites we won't be around the play offs we will be in automatic promotion 2nd place.
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Can't wait to see their new badge on our scoreboard. It'll be magnificent.
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Is that new badge real? I thought it was a twitter pisstake!
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So despite the fact Leeds only average about 27,000 at their games currently, and the club reckon they spoke to 10,000 fans about the new badge as part of a consultation, 70,000 people have signed a petition complaining about the new badge.
Presumably the 10,000 people the club spoke to weren't actually Leeds fans?!
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their badge is shit and they know it
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Leeds will 99% be on TV. Two biggest clubs in the league and both in or around the play offs.
There's no way Leeds are bigger than Wolves, Wednesday or Sunderland. The most over-hyped club in England.
It will still be on telly though, due to said hype and the fact that we are, obviously, massive.
I'm 55 so have always thought of them as a big club. When i was a nipper they were in and around every trophy from the late 60s to 1975.
Just googled their record and was amazed they have only won the FA Cup and league cup once. They have won as many European trophies. Interestingly their first real trophy (not counting division 2, 3 etc) was in Europe in 1968, before any domestic honours.
Given all that I am now more impressed by their support.
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Their support is very impressive, especially considering how long they've been down in this league. Still selling out every away game and averaging 33k+ at home this season.
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This is their highest average in years. Last year it was 27k, 22k, 24k and 21k in the three seasons before that.
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This is their highest average in years. Last year it was 27k, 22k, 24k and 21k in the three seasons before that.
Where the hell have they found 10,000 fans from in the past two years?!
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Oh come on now. I don't much give a damn about Leeds and I enjoy laughing at their decline and disasters but they absolutely are a big club.
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This is their highest average in years. Last year it was 27k, 22k, 24k and 21k in the three seasons before that.
Where the hell have they found 10,000 fans from in the past two years?!
Same place we have for the Blues game.
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We get 40,000 a couple times a season and have averaged it fairly recently too. Leeds have never averaged that.
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Their support is very impressive, especially considering how long they've been down in this league. Still selling out every away game and averaging 33k+ at home this season.
Remember though, they are the 4th biggest city in England population wise and only have one team. Look at London, Birmingham, Manchester, Liverpool, Sheffield, Nottingham, etc who all have two or more teams. Not surprised really that they have good support.
Plus they have fans from when they won the league in the 90s. Bastards. I fucking hate them.
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They, along with Liverpool, were the glory hunters club of choice when I was in Junior School in Tamworth. I still know a few Leeds fans who have never been to Elland Road.
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3 games have been moved.
Villa vs Wolves now sat 10th March 5.30pm
Hull vs Villa sat 31st March 5.30pm
Villa vs Reading tues 3rd April 7.45pm
Pit about the Reading game. I was looking forward to an Easter Monday 3pm kick off. It’s not even on the telly.
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3 games have been moved.
Villa vs Wolves now sat 10th March 5.30pm
Hull vs Villa sat 31st March 5.30pm
Villa vs Reading tues 3rd April 7.45pm
Pit about the Reading game. I was looking forward to an Easter Monday 3pm kick off. It’s not even on the telly.
Bollocks. That's ridiculous.
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Rail replacement service into Hull all that day – whether you're coming in from London (like I would be) or Birmingham. Absolute fucking pisstake.
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Don’t know why the Reading game has been moved but I’m sure there’s some pathetic excuse for it.
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Don’t know why the Reading game has been moved but I’m sure there’s some pathetic excuse for it.
We'll have invoked the 48 hours between games rule.
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Just announced on Sky that the game against Wolves 10th March is on telly 17.30 KO
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Good news for me as I'm away Easter weekend. It does mean I'll break my streak of attending every Saturday away game, though.
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Sotry. Late to the party again. Mods delete previous post if needed.
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Don’t know why the Reading game has been moved but I’m sure there’s some pathetic excuse for it.
We'd be at a disadvantage otherwise so, from a purely playing sense, it's good news for us. Still annoyed we had to play twice in three days last year because of Sky Fairy-worshipping moaners.
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Don’t know why the Reading game has been moved but I’m sure there’s some pathetic excuse for it.
We'd be at a disadvantage otherwise so, from a purely playing sense, it's good news for us. Still annoyed we had to play twice in three days last year because of Sky Fairy-worshipping moaners.
Have you ever thought that without them we wouldn't have a club in the first place?
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Don’t know why the Reading game has been moved but I’m sure there’s some pathetic excuse for it.
We'll have invoked the 48 hours between games rule.
Surely Easter Monday at 7.45pm would've been 48 hours
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Don’t know why the Reading game has been moved but I’m sure there’s some pathetic excuse for it.
We'd be at a disadvantage otherwise so, from a purely playing sense, it's good news for us. Still annoyed we had to play twice in three days last year because of Sky Fairy-worshipping moaners.
I didn’t realise we were playing on the previous Saturday when everyone else was playing Good Friday.
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Looking at the fixtures, that's a huge couple of weeks for us. Playing Hull, Reading, Norwich, Cardiff and Leeds all straight after one another. It's very likely that those two weeks will define our season. We need to get ourselves in a decent position before then, ideally with a bit of a buffer.
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Usually we can't play on the Good Friday because of the church. As we are away at Hull however this one has me confused.
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It wouldn't surprise me if they ended up putting the Reading game on the telly as well.
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Don’t know why the Reading game has been moved but I’m sure there’s some pathetic excuse for it.
We'd be at a disadvantage otherwise so, from a purely playing sense, it's good news for us. Still annoyed we had to play twice in three days last year because of Sky Fairy-worshipping moaners.
Have you ever thought that without them we wouldn't have a club in the first place?
Maybe I've misunderstood your post but are you suggesting Sky are the reason our club still exists?
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He's suggesting the Church is why we exist. Still doesn't explain why they would pressure us into moving a game and put us at a disadvantage in the process. I hardly think it's impossible that Villa-supporting
maniacs Christians could attend Church AND Villa Park on the same Friday.
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Love a 5.30 kick off, more time on the pop. That Wolves game should be a cracking atmosphere if we're still in or around the top two by then.
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Don’t know why the Reading game has been moved but I’m sure there’s some pathetic excuse for it.
Mightlily pissed off. I cant do midweek games because of work.
Taking Sky money really is dancing with the devil.
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He's suggesting the Church is why we exist. Still doesn't explain why they would pressure us into moving a game and put us at a disadvantage in the process. I hardly think it's impossible that Villa-supporting maniacs Christians could attend Church AND Villa Park on the same Friday.
It was so that their big day wasn't inconvenienced. Whatever your views on religion it's good that we can look to helping the local community.
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Their big day wouldn't have been inconvenienced. Villa were, though.
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Their big day wouldn't have been inconvenienced. Villa were, though.
Of course 30,000 people attending a football match is going to inconvenience them, and if we're going to be doing as much in the area as we seem to be indicating then we'll need community groups on our side. In any case, Steve Bruce was presumably happy with the change so maybe it wasn't as big a problem as you think it was.
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How could it inconvenience them? They've all day to do services. As for our community work, the vast majority of our community aren't Christian yet I can never remember us moving a game for Eid. Maybe Muslims are more reasonable and realise it's possible to have a religious celebration the same day as a football match.
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He's suggesting the Church is why we exist. Still doesn't explain why they would pressure us into moving a game and put us at a disadvantage in the process. I hardly think it's impossible that Villa-supporting maniacs Christians could attend Church AND Villa Park on the same Friday.
So we have to tiptoe around the current group of fantasists because a previous generation of fantasists set the club up?
I'm with you, I doubt a majority of our fanbase is Christian so whilst we may have been a Christian club at the start, we're not now, so I'm not sure why Easter Sunday should affect the Villa any more than any other club.
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We are on about Good Friday but the point still stands. I could just about understand it if we had some sort of "football festival" and had matches throughout the day. Having a game in the afternoon gives observant Christians more than enough time to attend church without being in the slightest inconvenienced by the football.
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We are on about Good Friday but the point still stands. I could just about understand it if we had some sort of "football festival" and had matches throughout the day. Having a game in the afternoon gives observant Christians more than enough time to attend church without being in the slightest inconvenienced by the football.
It's one day a year. What's the problem?
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The fact that we had one less day to prepare for our next game. It's two hours during the day, they have the whole day to celebrate the death of a fictional character, what's the problem?
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Seems more than likely Yeshua existed. The point of debate is whether he was the son of God. For that one requires faith.
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3 games have been moved.
Villa vs Wolves now sat 10th March 5.30pm
Hull vs Villa sat 31st March 5.30pm
Villa vs Reading tues 3rd April 7.45pm
Pit about the Reading game. I was looking forward to an Easter Monday 3pm kick off. It’s not even on the telly.
Delighted with the Wolves game, but would have been more of a shock if it wasn't on the telly. Hull doesn't really affect me, as I wasn't planning on Hull away anyway. It's nice that I can now watch it, shitter for the fans that were going to go. Does mean I probably can't go to Reading now however.
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How could it inconvenience them? They've all day to do services. As for our community work, the vast majority of our community aren't Christian yet I can never remember us moving a game for Eid. Maybe Muslims are more reasonable and realise it's possible to have a religious celebration the same day as a football match.
Clattenburg apparently halted a game in Saudi match when the prayer call8ng was heard
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I would prefer to watch a match on a Easter Monday afternoon than a Tuesday night, but as the Hull game has been moved by Sky to the Saturday, obviously the Reading game had to be moved to the Tuesday, otherwise we would have been disadvantaged having only 2 days preparation.
We were never originally scheduled to play at home on Good Friday or Easter Day, so I've no idea, where the Church comes into all this.
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The fact that we had one less day to prepare for our next game. It's two hours during the day, they have the whole day to celebrate the death of a fictional character, what's the problem?
You think it's a fictional character. You're expecting them to move, yet their movement has been going an awful lot longer than the Villa, which after all is a bunch of people watching men running around some grass kicking some fake animal skin about. Why not move the game (which, after-all is just that)?
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Seems more than likely Yeshua existed. The point of debate is whether he was the son of God. For that one requires faith.
I see him as a composite figure. Many of the stories ascribed to him, e.g. the smashing up of the temple, were told about other would-be messiahs before the period when he is supposed to have lived. That's before we even mention how much of "Christian" belief was simply nicked from the Mithras mythology.
Whatever, even if you do believe, there's nothing to stop you attending church in the twenty-two hours of Good Friday that don't clash with Villa crowds.
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The fact that we had one less day to prepare for our next game. It's two hours during the day, they have the whole day to celebrate the death of a fictional character, what's the problem?
You think it's a fictional character. You're expecting them to move, yet their movement has been going an awful lot longer than the Villa, which after all is a bunch of people watching men running around some grass kicking some fake animal skin about. Why not move the game (which, after-all is just that)?
Because moving the game left us at a disadvantage for our next game. Attending church before or after the game (or even during) to avoid traffic would not have left any Christian at a disadvantage.
No other English games were required to move for the benefit of the Church, although I daresay a reasonable number must be near a church. The Church near Villa Park were, quite clearly, being unreasonable.
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The fact that we had one less day to prepare for our next game. It's two hours during the day, they have the whole day to celebrate the death of a fictional character, what's the problem?
You think it's a fictional character. You're expecting them to move, yet their movement has been going an awful lot longer than the Villa, which after all is a bunch of people watching men running around some grass kicking some fake animal skin about. Why not move the game (which, after-all is just that)?
Because moving the game left us at a disadvantage for our next game. Attending church before or after the game (or even during) to avoid traffic would not have left any Christian at a disadvantage.
No other English games were required to move for the benefit of the Church, although I daresay a reasonable number must be near a church. The Church near Villa Park were, quite clearly, being unreasonable.
Or maybe we are just doing our little bit for community relations. Over the years I have seen many multi faith events at the church and although I am an atheist I see that as a good thing for social cohesion. Moving the odd game is really not that big a deal and I don’t think they deserve to be crucified over it.
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The fact that we had one less day to prepare for our next game. It's two hours during the day, they have the whole day to celebrate the death of a fictional character, what's the problem?
You think it's a fictional character. You're expecting them to move, yet their movement has been going an awful lot longer than the Villa, which after all is a bunch of people watching men running around some grass kicking some fake animal skin about. Why not move the game (which, after-all is just that)?
Because moving the game left us at a disadvantage for our next game. Attending church before or after the game (or even during) to avoid traffic would not have left any Christian at a disadvantage.
No other English games were required to move for the benefit of the Church, although I daresay a reasonable number must be near a church. The Church near Villa Park were, quite clearly, being unreasonable.
Or maybe we are just doing our little bit for community relations. Over the years I have seen many multi faith events at the church and although I am an atheist I see that as a good thing for social cohesion. Moving the odd game is really not that big a deal and I don’t think they deserve to be crucified over it.
Risky choice of words that!
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I would prefer to watch a match on a Easter Monday afternoon than a Tuesday night, but as the Hull game has been moved by Sky to the Saturday, obviously the Reading game had to be moved to the Tuesday, otherwise we would have been disadvantaged having only 2 days preparation.
We were never originally scheduled to play at home on Good Friday or Easter Day, so I've no idea, where the Church comes into all this.
Didn't seem to hurt us that much in the Bristol City game!
I would've prefered it to be on Easter Monday with a later kick off but there you go, it's a crucial part of the season and obviously an extra days rest will help us.
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It's nothing to do with the Church surely?
We played loads on Easter Monday in the premier league, Chelsea home game in 2004 was one I remember. The Reading game was originally going to be played at 3pm. I was more surprised the Hull game hadn't been moved back to Good Friday?
Issues have been when we've had home games on Easter Sunday and they've rung the bells as a protest.
I just assume with Sky moving the Hull game the club deem 48 hours recovery as insufficent so want the extra day and Reading have agreed.
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I was on about last season. We played on Easter Saturday and Monday, were supposed to play on Friday and Monday but the first game was moved.
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Leeds will 99% be on TV. Two biggest clubs in the league and both in or around the play offs.
There's no way Leeds are bigger than Wolves, Wednesday or Sunderland. The most over-hyped club in England.
It will still be on telly though, due to said hype and the fact that we are, obviously, massive.
Wolves couldn't sell out 2000 for Ipswich tomorrow and have only sold 1800 when they're pissing the league. Tinpot.
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Ah, your little obsession.
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Seems more than likely Yeshua existed. The point of debate is whether he was the son of God. For that one requires faith.
I see him as a composite figure. Many of the stories ascribed to him, e.g. the smashing up of the temple, were told about other would-be messiahs before the period when he is supposed to have lived. That's before we even mention how much of "Christian" belief was simply nicked from the Mithras mythology.
Whatever, even if you do believe, there's nothing to stop you attending church in the twenty-two hours of Good Friday that don't clash with Villa crowds.
Presumably there's only a handful (at most) services in the church that day, and possibly at times that would clash with match-time. I doubt they have the resources for a Dougal going round enquiring ''Is there anything to be said for another mass?"
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Ah, your little obsession.
Tell me about it. There's a hot of reasons why the Wolves are tin pot.
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Wolves being moved to 17.30 pissed me off. Had plans that night as it's wife's birthday. I think it's the worst KO time as for those that work at the club have to be there for 3pm and leave around 8.
Anyway she will have another birthday next year ;)
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It's a funny kick off time,not one thing or the other. That said Villa Park under lights on a Saturday evening is a noisy place.
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I know they don't suit everyone, but I like half five kick offs. For home games, anyway. Better to have a game like this, with minimal travel, moved than say Ipswich or Norwich away.
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Reading 7.45 on a Tues from a nice 3pm slot on Easter Monday. Bunch of wankers!
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Reading 7.45 on a Tues from a nice 3pm slot on Easter Monday. Bunch of wankers!
Very disappointing but I suppose it helps having that extra 24hrs recovery.
There might have been a bumper crowd for a bank holiday 3pm kick off though.
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Yep. We'll lose out on money at the gate and possibly a better atmosphere.
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Reading 7.45 on a Tues from a nice 3pm slot on Easter Monday. Bunch of wankers!
Big clubs get shoved into TV slots all the time😆
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Reading 7.45 on a Tues from a nice 3pm slot on Easter Monday. Bunch of wankers!
Big clubs get shoved into TV slots all the time😆
True, but it's all the more frustrating because the Reading game isn't on TV. It's moved due the Hull game being put back which is also frustrating as Sky are showing a number of games on good Friday but have moved ours back to the Saturday instead. (which also means I cannot now go to Hull as the match is now on my wife's birthday!).
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MFB Wouldn’t it be nice to take your wife to Hull for her birthday present the city of culture and all that?
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MFB Wouldn’t it be nice to take your wife to Hull for her birthday present the city of culture and all that?
I can just picture the scene. "Hull, you say? For my birthday treat you say? And what's this, by coincidence the Villa are playing there too, that day? You are SUCH a romantic!"
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You may manage to take in a Rugby League match while you’re there too, if she’s lucky.
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I'm pretty sure they play the derby on Good Friday. Personally that would be a great weekend but I appreciate I'm not a representative sample.
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I don’t think they deserve to be crucified over it.
Risky choice of words that!
Surely #thatsthejoke
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The fact that we had one less day to prepare for our next game. It's two hours during the day, they have the whole day to celebrate the death of a fictional character, what's the problem?
Our inconvenience is nothing compared to what JC had to endure that day.
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Yeah, but quick Magic Sponge and he was up and running again on the Sunday.
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At least I am certain now to want to go to Hull. I just don't understand the fixture move - Reading game unless it has something to do with the Church.
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The correspondent from Bearwood explained the move a few posts above or below depending on your page set up.
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Bolton vs Villa Saturday March 17th now a 5.30pm kick off.
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We're going to be on at 5.30 a lot between now and the end of the season I think.
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Bolton is another ground that has been built miles out of the actual town/city, like Reading.
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MFB Wouldn’t it be nice to take your wife to Hull for her birthday present the city of culture and all that?
I can just picture the scene. "Hull, you say? For my birthday treat you say? And what's this, by coincidence the Villa are playing there too, that day? You are SUCH a romantic!"
Only just seen this but that's a great big green light! Lucky sod.
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Bolton vs Villa Saturday March 17th now a 5.30pm kick off.
Bollocks, that's a pain in the arse. Oh well.
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Looking further ahead I can see our last 3 home games, Cardiff, Leeds and Derby, which are the VP matches after Reading, being on the box. Then, if promotion is still at stake, Millwall last day of the season.
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A Saturday night out in Bolton it is then...
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A Saturday night out in Bolton it is then...
Good luck with that. Can you get stab vests on Amazon?
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A Saturday night out in Bolton it is then...
Good luck with that. Can you get stab vests on Amazon?
Four of us once had a weekend in Blackpool including a visit to our game at Bolton on the Sunday. A 1-1 under MON if I remember right. One of our travelling party was my bluenose cousin. It must have been very exciting for him firstly as he actually went to a game of football and secondly it involved the team he talks about more than any other. Although he doesn't like being reminded he was always wearing a Liverpool top as a kid. Bless him.
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It's quite a run of games to finish the season!
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Bolton is another ground that has been built miles out of the actual town/city, like Reading.
It's not as bad as others, Horwich Parkway station is actually across the road from the ground and it's only 20 minutes from Manchester.
Went up to watch Walsall play up there last season and I chose the weekend the line was closed for engineering work which was a pain in the backside to get to and back.
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Looking further ahead I can see our last 3 home games, Cardiff, Leeds and Derby, which are the VP matches after Reading, being on the box. Then, if promotion is still at stake, Millwall last day of the season.
Cardiff is midweek anyway so won't mess up plans so much.
I have a feeling Derby will be moved to the Monday night. I remember Newcastle last season were promoted on a Monday night game as conclusion of premier league takes priority for Sky on those weekends.
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Don’t all the final games have to kick off at the same time for the integrity of their particular league ?
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Yes. Sky usually screen two matches on the final day at the same time.
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A Saturday night out in Bolton it is then...
Good luck with that. Can you get stab vests on Amazon?
If I knew how to, I'd post the video here from Phoenix Nights when a mini bus full of midgets in Bolton shirts give the bouncers a kicking outside the club.
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Ha, brilliant! Thanks PWS.
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It's quite a run of games to finish the season!
It’s in our own hands it’s all in our own hands.
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5.30 means more drinking time before the game. Always a good thing.
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5.30 means more drinking time before the game. Always a good thing.
You reckon? I think it means less people, shit atmosphere, no singing. Surprised you like that.
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Bolton vs Villa Saturday March 17th now a 5.30pm kick off.
And, St Patrick’s Day so - for some - a further reason to visit hostelries en route to the ground.
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5.30 means more drinking time before the game. Always a good thing.
In that case midnight kick offs would be better for some people.
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5.30 means more drinking time before the game. Always a good thing.
You reckon? I think it means less people, shit atmosphere, no singing. Surprised you like that.
17:30 kick offs at Villa Park have cracking atmosphere's.
Away games are away games. We make a racket wherever.
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5.30 means more drinking time before the game. Always a good thing.
You reckon? I think it means less people, shit atmosphere, no singing. Surprised you like that.
17:30 kick offs at Villa Park have cracking atmosphere's.
Away games are away games. We make a racket wherever.
I don't know why he thinks it means less "people" either. Forest sold out for a 5.30 as did Bristol for a Friday night. Barnsley and Preston didn't admittedly but they both have away allocations of 5,000.
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Away games on the TV do put people off going if they know they can save money and watch it I suppose although it should still sell out even if it hardly matters if it doesn't.
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Bristol City didn't sell out.
5.30 is just an odd time for a game to me. Suppose it's better than being on a Sunday. Not sure if us playing after the rest of the league, as we will be doing in four successive games from Wolves onwards, will be an advantage or a disadvantage.
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Away games on the TV do put people off going if they know they can save money and watch it I suppose although it should still sell out even if it hardly matters if it doesn't.
Televised away games put SOME people off. As we are selling out everywhere, there is always someone to take the place of a fan who decides to stay at home and watch it on TV. Sheffield United the other week saw several fans returning/selling their tickets once Sky announced that they were showing the match. However, many more stepped up to buy these tickets and we still sold out.
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Norwich away moved to 5.30 kick off for Sky.
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We usually take a good following there anyway.
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An extra two and a half hours in the Compleat Angler. And 10 quid each way on the train for us London Lions. Nice.
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The last train is at 7pm. Thanks a fucking lot, Sky.
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Anyone got the list of fixtures moved, please? The latest list should take us up to the penultimate match day.
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From 23rd February, a minimum five-week rolling selection commences for matches up to and including the penultimate weekend
From EFL website so think you'll have to wait a week or two for the later April games.
Derby at home will surely be moved.
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Leave Ipswich alone, you ******.
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Will probably be a Monday night game. Sorry CD.
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The last train is at 7pm. Thanks a fucking lot, Sky.
Get a coach?
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Leave Ipswich alone, you c***s.
It wouldn't shock me if they moved that to a Friday night.
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Anyone got the list of fixtures moved, please? The latest list should take us up to the penultimate match day.
http://www.live-footballontv.com/live-championship-football-on-tv.html
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Norwich is a good place for a drink, so a stopover is on the cards again. No bad thing.
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Here's what's left (current TV games in bold
I expect that at least Caerdydd and Durby will be on TV, possibly Leeds as well.
Therefore I doubt that Ipswich will be moved.
Saturday Mar 3, 2018 3:00 PM Aston Villa - Queens Park Rangers
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Tuesday Mar 6, 2018 7:45 PM Sunderland - Aston Villa
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Saturday Mar 10, 2018 5:30 PM Aston Villa - Wolverhampton Wanderers
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Saturday Mar 17, 2018 5:30 PM Bolton Wanderers FC - Aston Villa
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Saturday Mar 31, 2018 5:30 PM Hull City - Aston Villa
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Tuesday Apr 3, 2018 7:45 PM Aston Villa - Reading FC
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Saturday Apr 7, 2018 5:30 PM Norwich City - Aston Villa
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Tuesday Apr 10, 2018 7:45 PM Aston Villa - Cardiff City
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Saturday Apr 14, 2018 3:00 PM Aston Villa - Leeds United
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Saturday Apr 21, 2018 3:00 PM Ipswich Town - Aston Villa
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Saturday Apr 28, 2018 3:00 PM Aston Villa - Derby County
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Sunday May 6, 2018 12:30 PM Millwall FC - Aston Villa
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The last train is at 7pm. Thanks a fucking lot, Sky.
Get a coach?
Not a fan of that. Have done Carrrow Road before, and never seen us win there, so maybe it's best I just give this one a miss. Will ruin my record of attending every Saturday away game, but that was gonna come to an end anyway due to AD selfishly having a stag weekend when we are at 'Ull.
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The last train is at 7pm. Thanks a fucking lot, Sky.
Get a coach?
Not a fan of that. Have done Carrrow Road before, and never seen us win there, so maybe it's best I just give this one a miss. Will ruin my record of attending every Saturday away game, but that was gonna come to an end anyway due to AD selfishly having a stag weekend when we are at 'Ull.
There is still a way of doing it. There's a Norwich-Cambridge train that leaves at 7.40pm (Carrow Road is pretty much next to the train station so can make that) and then after arrving there at 9pm there's a quick 40 minute train to Kings Cross 10 minutes later.
Once in London I imagine they'd be a train from Euston that would get you into Brum for some time after midnight.
Not a quick way but let's be honest there is no quick way to Norwich via any form of transport from the West Midlands!
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The last train is at 7pm. Thanks a fucking lot, Sky.
Get a coach?
Not a fan of that. Have done Carrrow Road before, and never seen us win there, so maybe it's best I just give this one a miss. Will ruin my record of attending every Saturday away game, but that was gonna come to an end anyway due to AD selfishly having a stag weekend when we are at 'Ull.
There is still a way of doing it. There's a Norwich-Cambridge train that leaves at 7.40pm (Carrow Road is pretty much next to the train station so can make that) and then after arrving there at 9pm there's a quick 40 minute train to Kings Cross 10 minutes later.
Once in London I imagine they'd be a train from Euston that would get you into Brum for some time after midnight.
Not a quick way but let's be honest there is no quick way to Norwich via any form of transport from the West Midlands!
Last Euston to New Street train is 9:43.
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The last train is at 7pm. Thanks a fucking lot, Sky.
Get a coach?
Not a fan of that. Have done Carrrow Road before, and never seen us win there, so maybe it's best I just give this one a miss. Will ruin my record of attending every Saturday away game, but that was gonna come to an end anyway due to AD selfishly having a stag weekend when we are at 'Ull.
There is still a way of doing it. There's a Norwich-Cambridge train that leaves at 7.40pm (Carrow Road is pretty much next to the train station so can make that) and then after arrving there at 9pm there's a quick 40 minute train to Kings Cross 10 minutes later.
Once in London I imagine they'd be a train from Euston that would get you into Brum for some time after midnight.
Not a quick way but let's be honest there is no quick way to Norwich via any form of transport from the West Midlands!
Last Euston to New Street train is 9:43.
Ah maybe it's different on weekends as I caught one at half 11 after going to the British Summertime festival at Hyde Park on a Friday a few years back.
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Thanks for the tips, I think I'll give it a miss though. Could do with saving money anyway, all these away days aren't cheap.
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Thanks for the tips, I think I'll give it a miss though. Could do with saving money anyway, all these away days aren't cheap.
You will have four less league trips to pay for next season. Although maybe a few more away days in the cups. But don't forget to save a few quid for the European trips the following season.
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So.... apart from Breezeblock, who wants my references for Norwich?
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Thanks for the tips, I think I'll give it a miss though. Could do with saving money anyway, all these away days aren't cheap.
You will have four less league trips to pay for next season. Although maybe a few more away days in the cups. But don't forget to save a few quid for the European trips the following season.
Are you advocating his following Wolves to Barcelona?
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The Nou Camp won't be big enough for Wolves.
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The Nou Camp won't be big enough for Wolves.
I remember as we pulled up in the coach to the brightly lit San Siro in 1990 and one of the lads looked at the big concrete bowl and exclaimed "f*ck me it's Castle Vale"! When I took my son to Barcelona a couple of years ago we were sitting alone in the stand after the guided tour the day before we attended the game and I told him that although I had been to plenty of grounds the place was frightening even when it was empty.
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The Nou Camp won't be big enough for Wolves.
Their first home match will be like a Nuremburg rally.
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The Nou Camp won't be big enough for Wolves.
Their first home match will be like a Nuremburg rally.
Their season will be like a rally and probably end in a car crash.
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The Nou Camp won't be big enough for Wolves.
Their first home match will be like a Nuremburg rally.
Their season will be like a rally and probably end in a car crash.
Preferably through a tree and bemoaning why they had to play Boro in the play offs, let alone lose to them.
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Leeds and Derby matches bound to be moved for telly.
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Thanks for the tips, I think I'll give it a miss though. Could do with saving money anyway, all these away days aren't cheap.
You will have four less league trips to pay for next season. Although maybe a few more away days in the cups. But don't forget to save a few quid for the European trips the following season.
Are you advocating his following Wolves to Barcelona?
The only match Wolves will be playing in another country in two seasons’ time will be Swansea away.
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Thanks for the tips, I think I'll give it a miss though. Could do with saving money anyway, all these away days aren't cheap.
You will have four less league trips to pay for next season. Although maybe a few more away days in the cups. But don't forget to save a few quid for the European trips the following season.
Are you advocating his following Wolves to Barcelona?
The only match Wolves will be playing in another country in two seasons’ time will be Swansea away.
Are you insinuating they might be wrong about the imminent world domination? Heretic!
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They did invent European football, it's only fair that they resume their rightful place at the top table with fellow global giants such as Honved, Dukla Prague and Dundee.
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The Nou Camp won't be big enough for Wolves.
Their first home match will be like a Nuremburg rally.
Barcelona and Real Madrid have allready surrendered thier places in the Champions League as they know it will be no contest once the Mighty Wolves have entered the competition.
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It just means we don't have to leave so early from Bournemouth. A late one getting back though!
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The Nou Camp won't be big enough for Wolves.
Their first home match will be like a Nuremburg rally.
Barcelona and Real Madrid have allready surrendered thier places in the Champions League as they know it will be no contest once the Mighty Wolves have entered the competition.
And when their ground is increased up to a 70,000 capacity to accommodate the hordes who will be fighting to watch them, it will be renamed The Moli Nuex Camp
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Norwich has been moved again to a 12.30 kick off.
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Norwich has been moved again to a 12.30 kick off.
On OS https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2018/01/02/aston-villa-tv-fixtures
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Norwich has been moved again to a 12.30 kick off.
On OS https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2018/01/02/aston-villa-tv-fixtures
At least people can take the last train back to Brum now
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Bloody Hell, I've already made other plans now... make your bloody mind up Sky! Still, it is a far better kick off time. Not as good as 3pm, but still.
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Jesus, what a shit kick off time for Norwich. Bah!
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You will all be delighted to know that the game has been moved to accomodate Moss Side Millionaires V Newton Heath on Sky at 5.30pm.
Yeah, teatime on a Saturday, that's a fierce derby alright.
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Norwich has been moved again to a 12.30 kick off.
On OS https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2018/01/02/aston-villa-tv-fixtures
At least people can take the last train back to Brum now
Unless of course they get under the influence of the local sugar beet moonshine
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That's an early start if you are going there.
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Cardiff Tuesday 10th April match live and Leeds also live moved to Friday 13th.
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Excuse me for a moment while I lose my temper. FUCK Sky. This has been a torrid week. I've got flights to see the QPR game on Saturday and these might be cancelled due to weather. I also have flights booked for Saturday 14th to see the Leeds game, but now Sky have fucked that one too.
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2 home 7.45pm kick offs in one week. Pain in the arse if you work shifts.
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If the Derby games gets moved that will mean Saturday's home game will be the last 3.00 kick off at Villa Park this season.
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Tbf if the villa were mid table and weren't looking likely then they wouldn't be considered so much? It's a price to pay for the success.
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Cardiff Tuesday 10th April match live and Leeds also live moved to Friday 13th.
This is one of the few times TV hasn't fcuked me over. I'm away for the Leeds game so I'll miss it - but the fact it's now on telly means I may not!
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Cardiff Tuesday 10th April match live and Leeds also live moved to Friday 13th.
That's not good having to play Leeds 24 hours earlier than necessary.
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If the Derby games gets moved that will mean Saturday's home game will be the last 3.00 kick off at Villa Park this season.
Would be amazed if the Derby match stayed at 3pm, that is a cert to be moved.
I mentioned a few weeks back I was surprised we hadn't played a Friday game in the championship yet at home. Surprised WMP have allowed this with it being Leeds.
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That's absofuckinglutely disgraceful. The clubs should be able to have some input into it.
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Cardiff Tuesday 10th April match live and Leeds also live moved to Friday 13th.
That's not good having to play Leeds 24 hours earlier than necessary.
It's the same for Leeds though.
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If the Derby games gets moved that will mean Saturday's home game will be the last 3.00 kick off at Villa Park this season.
No chance Derby game won't be moved. I'm determined to go to it whenever it is and will take time off work as required but will be a bit pissed off it''s a Monday night.
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Hope the Sky factor doesn't affect the Cardiff crowd too much. We need a massive crowd and rocking ground for that one.
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Cardiff Tuesday 10th April match live and Leeds also live moved to Friday 13th.
That's not good having to play Leeds 24 hours earlier than necessary.
It's the same for Leeds though.
If anything, it gives us an advantage. We have two successive home games while they have two away games in the same time frame.
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Effed off about the Leeds game, my brother and I was gonna take my nephew and our old man but there's no way I can get from Brighton to Birmingham via Luton for kick off. And as others have said, this weekend is probably our last 3pm Sat game, considering it's just only March is ridiculous.
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CD explain how rescheduling of two home games for TV and playing one 24 hours earlier gives us an advantage?
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Hope the Sky factor doesn't affect the Cardiff crowd too much. We need a massive crowd and rocking ground for that one.
It's midweek anyway. That's the sort of game that sells itself so I think we'll get 40k for that.
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It's the same for Leeds though.
It’s not about them it’s abouu us....so there😊
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CD explain how rescheduling of two home games for TV and playing one 24 hours earlier gives us an advantage?
We are both playing on Tuesday. We are both playing on Friday. They have to travel to both games. We are at home for both games.
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Hope the Sky factor doesn't affect the Cardiff crowd too much. We need a massive crowd and rocking ground for that one.
It's midweek anyway. That's the sort of game that sells itself so I think we'll get 40k for that.
Doubt Cardiff will bring many.
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CD explain how rescheduling of two home games for TV and playing one 24 hours earlier gives us an advantage?
We are both playing on Tuesday. We are both playing on Friday. They have to travel to both games. We are at home for both games.
Yes I am going to nod my head in your direction😊
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Hope the Sky factor doesn't affect the Cardiff crowd too much. We need a massive crowd and rocking ground for that one.
It's midweek anyway. That's the sort of game that sells itself so I think we'll get 40k for that.
Doubt Cardiff will bring many.
One of their local games, and *potentially* biggest game of the season, can see them bringing a full away end which is only around 2,400.
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as I struggle to get to home midweek games due to my work commitments Cardiff was always going to off my list....but Leeds on a Friday evening ?? please do not move Derby.
it is obviously not the same as being there at the match, but at least they are on the TV
UTV
The Doc
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Derby will 100% be moved.
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Please leave Ipswich alone you ******.
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Livid. Absolutely livid. Cancelled my two tickets for tomorrows match as trains down here likely to be cancelled - some severe shit weather is forecast here from this afternoon. Got refund as there are no more games on a 3pm on Saturday. Thanks a bunch Sky, thanks a whole bunch. I've now got to try and do one of the late evening games on a Saturday or take time off from week if i want to see another game before August. Thanks Sky.
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Derby will 100% be moved.
I'm not convinced. It is quite possible that they will be out of contention for 2nd by the time that we face them. They're 6 points adrift as we speak. If that remains the same, the only way they'll have a mathematical chance is if their GD is superior. Further slips will see them out of it by the time the penultimate Saturday comes around.
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Derby will 100% be moved.
Yeah, it's a bit close to Nottingham and Burton at the moment. If they stick it in somewhere like Cornwall they would have a decent catchment area with no major rival.
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Derby will 100% be moved.
I'm not convinced. It is quite possible that they will be out of contention for 2nd by the time that we face them. They're 6 points adrift as we speak. If that remains the same, the only way they'll have a mathematical chance is if their GD is superior. Further slips will see them out of it by the time the penultimate Saturday comes around.
Good point, but sky will move the fixture before Derby's contention is resolved. Either way, Villa will likely be in contention at that point, and could be a game that see's us promoted/heaps pressure on Cardiff/keeps us in the race. Hopefully the former. Obviously.
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Livid. Absolutely livid. Cancelled my two tickets for tomorrows match as trains down here likely to be cancelled - some severe shit weather is forecast here from this afternoon. Got refund as there are no more games on a 3pm on Saturday. Thanks a bunch Sky, thanks a whole bunch. I've now got to try and do one of the late evening games on a Saturday or take time off from week if i want to see another game before August. Thanks Sky.
Im in a similar situation,its so annoying. Think I have managed to change things around to do Wolves instead of QPR but am fed up with Sky messing with our games.
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Fuxked-off over the Leeds change. Had long earmarked it as an overnight stay in Brum on the Sat and then see Arcade Fire at the NEC on the Sun.
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Hope the Sky factor doesn't affect the Cardiff crowd too much. We need a massive crowd and rocking ground for that one.
It's midweek anyway. That's the sort of game that sells itself so I think we'll get 40k for that.
Doubt Cardiff will bring many.
Pretty sure they sold out last season when they were in the bottom 3. If it's a top 2 shout out I can't see how they wouldn't bring 2.5k.
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Not sure they'll sell out with it being a Tuesday. Was it a weekend match last year? I have no recollection of the game.
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ads cardiff will bring loads never under estimate our support in south wales in big games
we will fill out our allocation no probs for this one even mid week south wales is looking forward to this one . if a weekend fixture we would ask for more tickets such is the interest in this game down here . the feel good factor and the area is buzzing right now
looking forward to a few pints in erdington again !
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Not sure they'll sell out with it being a Tuesday. Was it a weekend match last year? I have no recollection of the game.
it was a Saturday game. We won 3-1 and there was a bit of trouble outside the away end after the game.
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Not sure they'll sell out with it being a Tuesday. Was it a weekend match last year? I have no recollection of the game.
it was a Saturday game. We won 3-1 and there was a bit of trouble outside the away end after the game.
Didn't see any trouble outside but there was plenty on the pitch. They targeted Jack and eventually one of their players was sent off for doing a hatchet job on him. If memory serves me correctly, it was the game where Kodjia gave the ball to Gestede for the late penalty.
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How long before Sky announce the rearranged QPR game is on? ::)
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Fingers crossed. I'll be on my hollibobs. I'm sure there's nothing my wife wants more than to spend her evening in a Spanish pub watching the Villa!!
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You might struggle as Man United are playing Sevilla that night. I assume there is a Spanish version of the Aussie Bar with loads of tellies?
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Anyone know if we have a Gran Canaria Lions club?! Strength in numbers and all that!!
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Just put on AVTV beside the pool.....
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ads cardiff will bring loads never under estimate our support in south wales in big games
we will fill out our allocation no probs for this one even mid week south wales is looking forward to this one . if a weekend fixture we would ask for more tickets such is the interest in this game down here . the feel good factor and the area is buzzing right now
looking forward to a few pints in erdington again !
What sort right minded person would look forward to drinking in Erdington? 😀
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Erdington, the u-bend in the toilet of North Birmingham (https://www.ilivehere.co.uk/erdington-birmingham.html)
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You can’t account for how important Local knowledge is. I had a short break in South Wales a few years ago and found a lovely beach at Aberavon. It was only when I spoke to a local a few weeks later that I basically went to the eqivilent of Tipton.
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I must say High Street is very depressing nowadays not that it was ever that pleasant. I have had to go to the HSBC branch as it’s the nearest one to me still open on occasions and it’s not an enjoyable experience. It’s a case of get in and get out pdq.
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You can’t account for how important Local knowledge is. I had a short break in South Wales a few years ago and found a lovely beach at Aberavon. It was only when I spoke to a local a few weeks later that I basically went to the eqivilent of Tipton.
<ahem>
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ads cardiff will bring loads never under estimate our support in south wales in big games
we will fill out our allocation no probs for this one even mid week south wales is looking forward to this one . if a weekend fixture we would ask for more tickets such is the interest in this game down here . the feel good factor and the area is buzzing right now
looking forward to a few pints in erdington again !
What sort right minded person would look forward to drinking in Erdington? 😀
The kind of right minded person who would want to visit friends who drink there perhaps?
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first of all last season had a wonder around villa park and there was nowhere to have a beer so this season will venture around erdington as i have a friend around there . might even park and walk from the star city complex . is it safe to park around there in night games ? is brassneck reference to the weddoes tune ? if so you have incredibily good taste
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See you in the Acorn mate......or not (or whatever it's new name is as think it's had a name change in recent months).
The Cross Keys by the station is another dodgy establishment.
Yeah Star City is fine for evening parking. 15 minute walking.
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I have a funny feeling that the Yenton may be his preferred watering hole pre-match.
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I have a funny feeling that the Yenton may be his preferred watering hole pre-match.
Yenton is technically in Wylde Green but I take your point.
Edgy but Villa pub and had some enjoyable times in there watching us beat SHA in a couple of away games. Still pop in there on occasions on a Sunday.
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Erdington, the u-bend in the toilet of North Birmingham (https://www.ilivehere.co.uk/erdington-birmingham.html)
Hey, hey, hey... I grew up in Erdington
No, you're absolutely right. Especially that bit there. I remember the Lloyds Bank on the corner opposite the library and swimming pool, a Co-op, the WH Smiths, the shitty market, that pub (I forget the name). Just a series of tat shops all the way up to where Woolworth's used to be. Littlewoods fucked off and it became another store selling cheap shit. And the article is spot on. The people (if that's what they can be referred to, just loitering with zero intent to provide any kind of value to society.
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Charming.
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looks like we'll be heading for the cross keys or maybe the digby , will be quite a few of us so those establishments any good ?
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In a word....no!
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Charming.
Accurate though
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Any ideas when me might know if the Derby game is going to be moved?
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Erdington, the u-bend in the toilet of North Birmingham (https://www.ilivehere.co.uk/erdington-birmingham.html)
Hey, hey, hey... I grew up in Erdington
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Me too.
Two brothers still live there with their families, both senior professionals. Maybe a touch of generalisation in the article?
I have many happy memories of being brought up in Erdington (Orchard Road). It's sad to hear it may not be the place i remember so well.
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Any ideas when me might know if the Derby game is going to be moved?
5 weeks before.
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Any ideas when me might know if the Derby game is going to be moved?
I can tell you now. It's going to be moved.
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Have the misfortune to work in Erdington, the High Street is a hole full of pound/bargain shops and at last count 10 different Polish/eastern European shops.. its somewhere not to be around in the evenings as groups of pissed up blokes seem to hang around the skleps drinking super strength lager and generally being a pain in the arse.
As for pubs, the Acorn has changed names again and is a shithole full of reprobates who think the massive Weatherspoons around the corner is too classy for them..havent got the courage to venture into the Swan at the top of the High Street but judging by the groups of gammon faced men loitering outside smoking its not somewhere you want to go.
All the other pubs around the High St are long gone, theres 3 Greggs and even a £1 bakery to compliment the other pound shops.
Theres a couple of small independent cafes/coffee shops, but as ones attached to some weird church i refuse to go in there.. the other looks a bit too vegan for me (seems very out of place given the rest of the street and the clientele).
In short, avoid Erdington, drink up by the Yenton, or even Sutton, train straight to Aston for the game.
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Part of that Church actually got burnt down 10 years ago so they rebuilt it with a coffee shop inside.
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looks like we'll be heading for the cross keys or maybe the digby , will be quite a few of us so those establishments any good ?
Not sure who you are but stay away from the Cross keys - not nice locals at all. There is a pub at the roundabout by the ground called the Witton arms - home and away fans allowed in separate parts of the pub - £3 in
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Maybe Xia can help regenerate Erdington with local lad Gabby being given a consultancy remit under a new four year contract.
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looks like we'll be heading for the cross keys or maybe the digby , will be quite a few of us so those establishments any good ?
Not sure who you are but stay away from the Cross keys - not nice locals at all. There is a pub at the roundabout by the ground called the Witton arms - home and away fans allowed in separate parts of the pub - £3 in
Sorry but NO, the keys is alright no more than that, just alright, I suppose if you go in to any pub with an attitude your going to cause interest. I will say the pubs in Erdington leave a lot to be desired but they sell beer and other things and being Erdington you can guarantee it will be 90% Villa.
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Apologies if I missed it on this thread but the events of Friday night don't do much to dispel the general view of Erdington portrayed on here...
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/murder-investigation-launched-after-man-14365669
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I think if you were twinning Erdington with parts of other cities Longton in Stoke would be right up there. Went out with a girl from there years ago and it's the spitting image in terms of quality of shops and down and out people. Also has a green glass roof to the entrance to the shopping parade as in Erdo.
Bootle in Liverpool also reminded me of it when I somehow ended up drinking there before Everton away a few years ago.
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Bootle is Sefton and ergo they're Wools.
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There’s no way Erdington is as bad as Bootle.
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Erdington is a nice place to live but I wouldn't want to drink there.
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Bootle is a mahoosive dump. I also can't think of the place without the a bloke walking his goose down the high street.
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I worked in Erdington High St for 24 years and always tried to avoid going out at lunchtime if I could.
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There’s no way Erdington is as bad as Bootle.
And there's no way Longton is as bad as Erdington.
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Knickers to the lot of you!
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Bootle is a mahoosive dump. I also can't think of the place without the a bloke walking his goose down the high street.
Who?
I think most people remember it for being the place James Bulger was abducted.
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I think of Girobank when I think of Bootle.
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There’s no way Erdington is as bad as Bootle.
And there's no way Longton is as bad as Erdington.
They do have a good beer festival on at the Gladstone Pottery Museum once a year but the rest looks very familar:
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Knickers to the lot of you!
Sorry Pete, but it’s a kip mate. I used to work at The Digby, and it wasn’t bad overall. People, many as shady as they were quite good to me. But would I go out as a minority in the area? My late night association with Erdington was passing through, grabbing a kebab or mini fish and chips from Big John’s and then peg it out of there.
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No bother TV, try Erdington High Street Hunnies on Facebook for shits and giggles.
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No bother TV, try Erdington High Street Hunnies on Facebook for shits and giggles.
haha I'm going to assume simply from the title I should be scared to death
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Erdington, the u-bend in the toilet of North Birmingham (https://www.ilivehere.co.uk/erdington-birmingham.html)
Hey, hey, hey... I grew up in Erdington
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Maybe a touch of generalisation in the article?
Maybe a touch of tongue in cheek.
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You may guess from my name where I live, and further up this thread someone passed reference about the Keys, I don't make a habit of drinking in Erdington, well tbh I don't make a habit of drinking much any more, BUT I was intrigued as to a persons opinion about the keys and so I happened upon the Cross Keys on my way home around 19:30 last night, I always thought the pub was ok, and imo its a little better than that, I went in the bar had a couple or three John Smith absolutely no bother on the contrary actually passed the time of day with another punter at the bar, left there about 20:30 grabbed a curry from balti delight (excellent) and tootled off home. so no THE KEYS is an ok place for a drink. anybody ever drank in chelmsley wood I have oh f hell argh now that's a territorial place , try drinking there without anybody knowing you, then talk to me about Erdington.
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"Fixture Changes/Games Moved for TV - Season 17/18", the H&V thread for everything you needed to know about......Erdington and Bootle :)
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Bootle is a mahoosive dump. I also can't think of the place without the a bloke walking his goose down the high street.
Who?
I think most people remember it for being the place James Bulger was abducted.
Taking his goose for a walk la. (https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/bootle-pair-spotted-taking-pet-9871211)
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Bootle is a mahoosive dump. I also can't think of the place without the a bloke walking his goose down the high street.
Who?
I think most people remember it for being the place James Bulger was abducted.
Taking his goose for a walk la. (https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/bootle-pair-spotted-taking-pet-9871211)
I once saw a bloke taking a bear on a lead for a walk in St Petersburg.
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"Fixture Changes/Games Moved for TV - Season 17/18", the H&V thread for everything you needed to know about......Erdington and Bootle :)
Since when has talking about Football ever been important on this forum? :)
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Bootle is a mahoosive dump. I also can't think of the place without the a bloke walking his goose down the high street.
Who?
I think most people remember it for being the place James Bulger was abducted.
Taking his goose for a walk la. (https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/bootle-pair-spotted-taking-pet-9871211)
I once saw a bloke taking a bear on a lead for a walk in St Petersburg.
I saw a bloke taking his bear for a Sunday stroll in Sofia 20 years ago too. The night before we had been in a bar and there was a set of lockers for people to hand over their guns for storage.
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I think of Girobank when I think of Bootle.
Which is why I moved north in the first place (there was an office on the Hagley Road ) - it then became Alliance and Leicester and latterly Santander
I worked at Bootle but lived in Formby.
Bootle /Seaforth takes up a sizable chunk of North Liverpool
Its tough but no more of a "dump" than parts of London, Brum, Manchester, Bradford et al
Next time you are round this way Ads, contact me and Ill take you out for a bevy with some of the local la`s - I am sure you will be very welcome.
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I think of Girobank when I think of Bootle.
Which is why I moved north in the first place (there was an office on the Hagley Road ) - it then became Alliance and Leicester and latterly Santander
I worked at Bootle but lived in Formby.
Bootle /Seaforth takes up a sizable chunk of North Liverpool
Its tough but no more of a "dump" than parts of London, Brum, Manchester, Bradford et al
Next time you are round this way Ads, contact me and Ill take you out for a bevy with some of the local la`s - I am sure you will be very welcome.
Calm down, la you'll av de woolly baccccks kicking off
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I think of Girobank when I think of Bootle.
Which is why I moved north in the first place (there was an office on the Hagley Road ) - it then became Alliance and Leicester and latterly Santander
I worked at Bootle but lived in Formby.
Bootle /Seaforth takes up a sizable chunk of North Liverpool
Its tough but no more of a "dump" than parts of London, Brum, Manchester, Bradford et al
Next time you are round this way Ads, contact me and Ill take you out for a bevy with some of the local la`s - I am sure you will be very welcome.
Calm down, la you'll av de woolly baccccks kicking off
The Scallies have eaten the Woollies :)
I came down to Tamworth for a family meal last weekend - when I was paying the bill a fella at the bar said to the manageress - "watch it he's a scouser and will try and rob ya"
Nothing like stereotyping is there !!!
I wouldn't mind I have been ribbed for my Brummie accent for the last 22 years - Peaky blinders has given a bit of kudos to us Brummies up north - mind you, having said that most of the scenes are shot up here in Liverpool !
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Bootle is a mahoosive dump. I also can't think of the place without the a bloke walking his goose down the high street.
Who?
I think most people remember it for being the place James Bulger was abducted.
Depends on what area in Bootle it covers quite a distance. Certainly no worse than a lot of areas in many other cities. You get people though in my area who state they live in Waterloo. Most people think its posher, but on the other hand there are poorer streets there.
In short just another working class area with some better and lesser parts.
Taking his goose for a walk la. (https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/bootle-pair-spotted-taking-pet-9871211)
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jesus christ didn't realise erdington would bring so much gossip on here . might have to pop over to marston green then for a decent beer then judging by your answers - ha ha
sounds like erdington make the rhondda valleys look like paradise !
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jesus christ didn't realise erdington would bring so much gossip on here . might have to pop over to marston green then for a decent beer then judging by your answers - ha ha
sounds like erdington make the rhondda valleys look like paradise !
I was once subjected to Ferndale.
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I worked in Erdington High St for 24 years and always tried to avoid going out at lunchtime if I could.
I used to go to Erdington High Street for area work meetings as our premises there had a large meeting/training room upstairs. I didn't think it was too bad. Having said that you should see some of the areas I have worked in, so in that respect I have quite a high shock threshold when it comes to crappy places.
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jesus christ didn't realise erdington would bring so much gossip on here . might have to pop over to marston green then for a decent beer then judging by your answers - ha ha
sounds like erdington make the rhondda valleys look like paradise !
I was once subjected to Ferndale.
Think yourself lucky you haven't encountered " The Fernhiil" around Seaforth,Litherland and Bootle
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jesus christ didn't realise erdington would bring so much gossip on here . might have to pop over to marston green then for a decent beer then judging by your answers - ha ha
sounds like erdington make the rhondda valleys look like paradise !
There are no pubs etc in Marston Green. It is a puritanical sanctuary for those wishing to escape from debauchery of sin sodden boroughs of Chemsley Wood and Tile Cross.
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Have they still got the God awful Blues memorabilia up in the Marston Green Tavern? I haven't returned since I moved from there 16 years ago I don't think.
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My mate used to manage the bookies opposite the Marston Green Tavern and live in the flat above the shop. I haven't been in there in years (in fact I think I only ever went in there once and that was to have a drink with that mate). The Bill And Bull on the Cov Road Yardley used to have a massive Small Heath badge in the top window. It was there for ages but I think it has now gone.
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Still there I believe. About the only pub round here that I've never drank in.
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They had a number of those cheap, framed, "footy bantz" things above the bar. The kind you pick up at the pound shop.
A cartoon cherub pissing on a Villa shirt. A medley in homage to such luminaries as Tait and Devlin. That sort of thing.
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I worked in Erdington High St for 24 years and always tried to avoid going out at lunchtime if I could.
I used to go to Erdington High Street for area work meetings as our premises there had a large meeting/training room upstairs. I didn't think it was too bad. Having said that you should see some of the areas I have worked in, so in that respect I have quite a high shock threshold when it comes to crappy places.
You don’t work for Lloyds Bank do you?
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The Bill and Bull still has bollock badges in the window, as does the Ivy Bush just out of town on the Hagley Road.
I think it's a good thing, a warning of what lies within. Like a TB hospital or leper colony.
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Been pas the Ivy Bush so many times on the Bus but never been in it.
A SHA pub, really?
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Been pas the Ivy Bush so many times on the Bus but never been in it.
A SHA pub, really?
It’s not. It’s got a Villa badge in a window the other side of the pub.
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I worked in Erdington High St for 24 years and always tried to avoid going out at lunchtime if I could.
I used to go to Erdington High Street for area work meetings as our premises there had a large meeting/training room upstairs. I didn't think it was too bad. Having said that you should see some of the areas I have worked in, so in that respect I have quite a high shock threshold when it comes to crappy places.
You don’t work for Lloyds Bank do you?
No, I worked in the betting industry.
I think I have been in The Bill And Bull in Yardley twice in my life, a fair few years back. My memory of it was that it was the opposite to The Tardis, looking massive on the outside but quite cramped inside. Maybe I was in the smallest bar.
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I always imagined The Bill and Bull being the inspiration for The Handcuff and Hand Grenade.
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Been pas the Ivy Bush so many times on the Bus but never been in it.
A SHA pub, really?
It’s not. It’s got a Villa badge in a window the other side of the pub.
Drank in the Ivy Bush many times as a youth and never noticed either badge. It's not a Villa or a Blose pub. It's just a pub.
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They had a number of those cheap, framed, "footy bantz" things above the bar. The kind you pick up at the pound shop.
A cartoon cherub pissing on a Villa shirt. A medley in homage to such luminaries as Tait and Devlin. That sort of thing.
Sorry, I was on about the Old Bill and Bull. I took a while before hitting "reply" as I got distracted by dinner. I've been the Marston Green Tavern a couple of times and failed to notice the Blose memorabilia. I think I was in there wearing a Villa shirt after an away game, back in the days when I still considered a football shirt to be acceptable apparel, and never had any grief off anyone.
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Ivy Bush has a sha badge in the window and an Albion dartboard. Never noticed a Villa badge.
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The Bill and Bull still has bollock badges in the window, as does the Ivy Bush just out of town on the Hagley Road.
I think it's a good thing, a warning of what lies within. Like a TB hospital or leper colony.
I fell asleep in someone's garden just up the road from there.
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The Bill and Bull still has bollock badges in the window, as does the Ivy Bush just out of town on the Hagley Road.
I think it's a good thing, a warning of what lies within. Like a TB hospital or leper colony.
I fell asleep in someone's garden just up the road from there.
You musta thought you were gnome :)
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I work on Erdington High Street and find going at out lunch time really entertaining. I find the people relentlessly friendly, and we joke in our office that you mustn't stand still for too long if you nip out for a cigarette because someone will start a conversation with you.
I always end up chatting to some random on the high street, and that is as a pretty obvious outsider.
I quite like that I can nip out and have a bit of a browse in New Look or the weird little clothes section at the co-op, grab lunch at any number of basic takeaways, and the right shops are there for those little errands you need during the week A WHSmith if you need a birthday card for someone, a Boots and a Superdrug, my bank....
Erdington is definitely a bit rough, but I find, like most places, that you get back the attitude you give off.
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I think of Girobank when I think of Bootle.
Which is why I moved north in the first place (there was an office on the Hagley Road ) - it then became Alliance and Leicester and latterly Santander
I worked at Bootle but lived in Formby.
Bootle /Seaforth takes up a sizable chunk of North Liverpool
Its tough but no more of a "dump" than parts of London, Brum, Manchester, Bradford et al
Next time you are round this way Ads, contact me and Ill take you out for a bevy with some of the local la`s - I am sure you will be very welcome.
Calm down, la you'll av de woolly baccccks kicking off
The Scallies have eaten the Woollies :)
I came down to Tamworth for a family meal last weekend - when I was paying the bill a fella at the bar said to the manageress - "watch it he's a scouser and will try and rob ya"
Nothing like stereotyping is there !!!
I wouldn't mind I have been ribbed for my Brummie accent for the last 22 years - Peaky blinders has given a bit of kudos to us Brummies up north - mind you, having said that most of the scenes are shot up here in Liverpool !
The stereotype has some relevance though. I've not come across too many Scouse blokes who don't work fancy themselves as a bit of a wide boy with their jarg gear and whatnot, even those in white collar work.
Liverpool is different in many ways from a number of other cities. I won't patronise and say what a lovely people they are, but the ones I'm friends with are sound.
The racial and economic make up is significantly different from Manchester, London and Brum though. It also all looks the same outside the city centre, with very minimal exceptions, with thousands upon thousands of semi-detached ex-council houses in varying states of repair and it makes the city a bit meh for me in comparison to Brum.
Prefer it to Manchester mind, which fuels itself upon its own self-importance.
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They had a number of those cheap, framed, "footy bantz" things above the bar. The kind you pick up at the pound shop.
A cartoon cherub pissing on a Villa shirt. A medley in homage to such luminaries as Tait and Devlin. That sort of thing.
Sorry, I was on about the Old Bill and Bull. I took a while before hitting "reply" as I got distracted by dinner. I've been the Marston Green Tavern a couple of times and failed to notice the Blose memorabilia. I think I was in there wearing a Villa shirt after an away game, back in the days when I still considered a football shirt to be acceptable apparel, and never had any grief off anyone.
The Bill and Bull has only been in existence from the mid to late 80's. It looks like a much older pub but it's only the facade that's old. Don't know what it was before. Tried to find out and picked this up from the 'beer in the evening web site'
"went into this pub with my cousin for the first time. had one bloke staring me out sitting in the front bar for ages,had a drunken woman fall across my lap screamin her head off,went to the gents and there was a guy who had been snorting cocaine in the cubicle being dragged out by his hair and shouted at. bar staff very good despite all this. angie babs is right. why would i want to drink in this atmos? all you people saying its a great pub............you need a brain transplant!"
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Back to the thread when is derby county date and time likely to be announced
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They had a number of those cheap, framed, "footy bantz" things above the bar. The kind you pick up at the pound shop.
A cartoon cherub pissing on a Villa shirt. A medley in homage to such luminaries as Tait and Devlin. That sort of thing.
Sorry, I was on about the Old Bill and Bull. I took a while before hitting "reply" as I got distracted by dinner. I've been the Marston Green Tavern a couple of times and failed to notice the Blose memorabilia. I think I was in there wearing a Villa shirt after an away game, back in the days when I still considered a football shirt to be acceptable apparel, and never had any grief off anyone.
The Bill and Bull has only been in existence from the mid to late 80's. It looks like a much older pub but it's only the facade that's old. Don't know what it was before. Tried to find out and picked this up from the 'beer in the evening web site'
"went into this pub with my cousin for the first time. had one bloke staring me out sitting in the front bar for ages,had a drunken woman fall across my lap screamin her head off,went to the gents and there was a guy who had been snorting cocaine in the cubicle being dragged out by his hair and shouted at. bar staff very good despite all this. angie babs is right. why would i want to drink in this atmos? all you people saying its a great pub............you need a brain transplant!"
I'm pretty sure it used to be a police station, hence the name. I'd guess those asserting that it's "a great pub" would be those sad inbred twats who like to gather there at 3pm every Saturday when Blose are playing, to obsess about how Villa are getting on.
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Yeah you're probably right. It wasn't a police station for some time before it became a pub either.
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They had a number of those cheap, framed, "footy bantz" things above the bar. The kind you pick up at the pound shop.
A cartoon cherub pissing on a Villa shirt. A medley in homage to such luminaries as Tait and Devlin. That sort of thing.
Sorry, I was on about the Old Bill and Bull. I took a while before hitting "reply" as I got distracted by dinner. I've been the Marston Green Tavern a couple of times and failed to notice the Blose memorabilia. I think I was in there wearing a Villa shirt after an away game, back in the days when I still considered a football shirt to be acceptable apparel, and never had any grief off anyone.
The Bill and Bull has only been in existence from the mid to late 80's. It looks like a much older pub but it's only the facade that's old. Don't know what it was before. Tried to find out and picked this up from the 'beer in the evening web site'
"went into this pub with my cousin for the first time. had one bloke staring me out sitting in the front bar for ages,had a drunken woman fall across my lap screamin her head off,went to the gents and there was a guy who had been snorting cocaine in the cubicle being dragged out by his hair and shouted at. bar staff very good despite all this. angie babs is right. why would i want to drink in this atmos? all you people saying its a great pub............you need a brain transplant!"
I'm pretty sure it used to be a police station, hence the name. I'd guess those asserting that it's "a great pub" would be those sad inbred twats who like to gather there at 3pm every Saturday when Blose are playing, to obsess about how Villa are getting on.
The "Bull" bit of the name comes from a pub called that, it sat on what is now the City bound carriageway and bit the dust when the road was widened.
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Been pas the Ivy Bush so many times on the Bus but never been in it.
A SHA pub, really?
It’s not. It’s got a Villa badge in a window the other side of the pub.
Drank in the Ivy Bush many times as a youth and never noticed either badge. It's not a Villa or a Blose pub. It's just a pub.
Yeah so did I (though I wouldn’t drink there now). You’re right, it’s neither Villa or Small Heath.
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still undecided where to go now - haha
onto the footie both winning last night . a massive weekend coming up .
hope you lot draw with wolveselona whilst we put birmingham to the sword and put a few goals on them
looks like auto's are going to the wire this year . will wolves slip up ?
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still undecided where to go now - haha
onto the footie both winning last night . a massive weekend coming up .
hope you lot draw with wolveselona whilst we put birmingham to the sword and put a few goals on them
looks like auto's are going to the wire this year . will wolves slip up ?
I hope so. The gobby small time wankers. Could do with a Leeds win tonight and they will start papping themselves.
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The Old Bill and Bull was a police station - it even says 'Police Station' over the main entrance!
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Think BadEnglish will be giving a bit more description of the Marston Green Tavern shortly judging by his FB!
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Yes. I couldn't save the photo from Instagram so had to share it to Facebook.
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I give you the bogs in the Marston Green Tavern:
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They've certainly won the sticking stickers in bogs battle. That'll show us.
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JOTV, it must be hard simultaneously urinating and writing.
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still undecided where to go now - haha
onto the footie both winning last night . a massive weekend coming up .
hope you lot draw with wolveselona whilst we put birmingham to the sword and put a few goals on them
looks like auto's are going to the wire this year . will wolves slip up ?
How are you getting here? If by car go to the Bartons. If by coach, I'd suggest giving a curry pub in West Brom such as the Vine a ring and ask if they'll take you. If by train, wander round town and see where you fancy.
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What kind of person would go out of their way to acquire football club stickers for the purpose of sticking them on a pub toilet cistern?
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JOTV, it must be hard simultaneously urinating and writing.
Not sure he was urinating.....
Jizz on the Villa?
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at least that shows some spunk.
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Is the Leeds game a Friday night now? So that’s Cardiff on the Tuesday and Leeds on a Friday both on sky?
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That's correct.
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What kind of person would go out of their way to acquire football club stickers for the purpose of sticking them on a pub toilet cistern?
When I went to Sheffield a few weeks back for the game, I was drinking just by the center. The bogs had an "Owls on Tour" sticker. We were a mile and a half from Hillsborough!
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What kind of person would go out of their way to acquire football club stickers for the purpose of sticking them on a pub toilet cistern?
When I went to Sheffield a few weeks back for the game, I was drinking just by the center. The bogs had an "Owls on Tour" sticker. We were a mile and a half from Hillsborough!
A mile and a half is a long flight for an owl
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especially a pissed up one
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Is the Leeds game a Friday night now? So that’s Cardiff on the Tuesday and Leeds on a Friday both on sky? Only two clear days between fixtures?
The Cardiff game is massive - like Wolves. If we win will Leeds be like the QPR game?
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Leeds will sell out their allocation so atmosphere will be much better.
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Has the Derby game been confirmed for 3pm Saturday?
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No mate
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When will they be announcing the fixtures for the Derby weekend? I thought there was some rule about it being no later than six weeks beforehand or something?
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The live TV fixtures tend to get changed at short notice in the end of season run in.
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From the EFL website
In a joint commitment with broadcaster Sky Sports, the EFL has vowed to ensure all its clubs are given at least five weeks’ notice ahead of any matches selected for live television coverage.
Furthermore, the EFL will then commit to publicly announcing any fixture changes within three working days in order to give EFL supporters as much time as is possible to allow for any alterations to travel plans that may be required.
If both the EFL and Sky Sports are unable to meet this timeframe then the clubs involved have the ability to choose not to be broadcast live on television. However, if both Clubs mutually agree to the rescheduling of the fixture within this five-week period then the game will be played on the new date.
In addition to moving fixtures for TV, games can still be rearranged at short notice if players are called up to their respective international sides. Under current EFL rules, if three players from a first team squad are selected by their national team for a competitive or friendly match on a FIFA International Match Calendar date, clubs have the right to postpone and reschedule.
As part of the agreement, the EFL will publicly announce any fixture changes within three working days of their selection (following club consideration) in order to give EFL supporters as much time as is possible to allow for any alterations to travel plans that may be required.
Remaining TV selection dates 2017/18: (Illustrative but subject to a five-week minimum notice commitment)
Clubs notified of selections as follows:
- 16th December to 13th January by 3rd November
- 20th January to 3rd February by 8th December
- 10th February to 3rd March by 29th December
- 10th March to 31st March by 19th January
- From 23rd February, a minimum five-week rolling selection commences for matches up to and including the penultimate weekend
- Clubs notified of selections for the final day following the completion of the penultimate round of matches
Therefore, the games for the Derby weekend should have been announced last week but they weren't
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Based on Sky's Premier League matches that weekend, I think that Friday evening and Sunday Noon are still in play
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Therefore, the games for the Derby weekend should have been announced last week but they weren't
The ticket office are advertising it as 3pm on the 28th, but I've heard that Sky won't select their games until after the coming weekend
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Surely Ipswich won't be moved now? I've already bought train tickets.
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I've tweeted AVFCSupport - totally unhelpful. It might or might not be moved and they don't know when they'll know.
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Surely Ipswich won't be moved now? I've already bought train tickets.
When General Krulak, SIR, was still here the fuckers moved a match to a Monday night with less than two weeks notice, couldn't go to rearranged date but had already bought non refundable train tickets for myself and the kids. I asked him why it was changed so late and he said something about terms of the TV contract and just imagine how inconvenient it was for him as he had flights booked. I didn't bother imagining as I couldn't give a toss about his flights.
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Surely Ipswich won't be moved now? I've already bought train tickets.
I wouldn't have thought so, not this late anyway.
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I've checked since and see that Championship games are already scheduled for TV that weekend, so hopefully we will be safe.
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Surely Ipswich won't be moved now? I've already bought train tickets.
No, it will definitely be remaining in Suffolk for the foreseeable future.
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Thanks for sharing that link UKR. I knew there was something. As it turns out it was a commitment that they decided not to bother with.
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Sky aren't going to select their matches for the penultimate weekend until Wednesday 4th. One will be on Friday 27th at 7.45 and the other on Saturday 28th at 5.30.
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Sky aren't going to select their matches for the penultimate weekend until Wednesday 4th. One will be on Friday 27th at 7.45 and the other on Saturday 28th at 5.30.
I think we can all guess which one we'll be .
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Here's the official statement:
TV selections for the penultimate weekend of the season (27 to the 29 April) will be confirmed on Wednesday 4 April following the upcoming Easter programme in order to ensure the most appropriate matches are picked for broadcast, with promotion and relegation battles still to be decided across the EFL.
The EFL has worked with Sky Sports to maintain a minimum five-week commitment to the rescheduling of fixtures for TV selection throughout the season in order to ensure that supporters are given as much notice as possible with the average notification period for 2017/18 in excess of seven weeks (52.5 days).
However, given the significance of the matches taking place on the penultimate weekend, it is the view of both the EFL and its broadcast partner that it is not in the interests of the competition to broadcast matches that have no impact on the outstanding issues of the season.
Therefore, for this weekend only, the policy has been amended to ensure a minimum three weeks’ notice period is adhered to for the vacant TV slots scheduled for 7.45pm on Friday 27 April or 5.30pm on Saturday 28 April.
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There can't be a single rule in football that won't be ignored for TV.
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"It's not in the interests of the competition". How did they put that in with a straight face?
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An annoyance for me must be a nightmare booking from places like Ireland though
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An annoyance for me must be a nightmare booking from places like Ireland though
Tell me about it. 3 flights booked already to fly in and out of Brum from Dublin on the Saturday.
I know it's my own mistake, but i jumped on them a few weeks ago when i saw a reasonable price, not stopping to think that it will be moved.
The frustration is the longer it drags on the more expensive it becomes to change them or book more flights.
Not surprising you get this from Ryanair - All Ryanair flights are changeable but they cannot be cancelled.
Change flight information
Flight change fees are charged per one way flight/per person and vary by season.In addition to these flight change fees, any price difference between the original fare paid and the new fare chosen is charged. Please note that if the fare/fees on the new flight is lower, no refund will be made.
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Well if we don't win our next two we will be out of the automatic promotion race so they could well leave us alone and focus on Fulham, Wolves and Cardiff instead.
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Here's the official statement:
TV selections for the penultimate weekend of the season (27 to the 29 April) will be confirmed on Wednesday 4 April following the upcoming Easter programme in order to ensure the most appropriate matches are picked for broadcast, with promotion and relegation battles still to be decided across the EFL.
The EFL has worked with Sky Sports to maintain a minimum five-week commitment to the rescheduling of fixtures for TV selection throughout the season in order to ensure that supporters are given as much notice as possible with the average notification period for 2017/18 in excess of seven weeks (52.5 days).
However, given the significance of the matches taking place on the penultimate weekend, it is the view of both the EFL and its broadcast partner that it is not in the interests of the competition to broadcast matches that have no impact on the outstanding issues of the season.
Therefore, for this weekend only, the policy has been amended to ensure a minimum three weeks’ notice period is adhered to for the vacant TV slots scheduled for 7.45pm on Friday 27 April or 5.30pm on Saturday 28 April.
Great update thanks. Unfortunately will only be able to go either derby or home play off and was going to buy derby online tomoz but will prob wait till tv fixtures announced now . Has anyone got play off dates please ?
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I believe the 3rd place team will play away on the Friday and them home leg Monday.
4th place team gets away game on the Saturday (think it's the 12th) then home on the Tuesday.
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If Wolves and Cardiff both win tomorrow then promotion will likely be sealed before penultimate games which makes me think Sky will give them a swerve. I'm thinking Middlesbrough-Millwall might get the nod as a playoff contenders' tussle. I'm hoping we'll be confirmed in top six by then but Derby probably won't. Then again, they might have fallen right out the other end. If not us, maybe Fulham-Sunderland for a pick? Possible issues at top and bottom?
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Sky no doubt pay someone to analyse these things.
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Can Sky take back all the April games they've chosen of us featuring? We're finishing fourth so pick on someone else and we can have a few more normal Sats, thank you please.
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At least the Derby home game may now be a 3pm Saturday kick off
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At least the Derby home game may now be a 3pm Saturday kick off
Derby will still be in mix for top 6.
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Here's the official statement:
TV selections for the penultimate weekend of the season (27 to the 29 April) will be confirmed on Wednesday 4 April following the upcoming Easter programme in order to ensure the most appropriate matches are picked for broadcast, with promotion and relegation battles still to be decided across the EFL.
The EFL has worked with Sky Sports to maintain a minimum five-week commitment to the rescheduling of fixtures for TV selection throughout the season in order to ensure that supporters are given as much notice as possible with the average notification period for 2017/18 in excess of seven weeks (52.5 days).
However, given the significance of the matches taking place on the penultimate weekend, it is the view of both the EFL and its broadcast partner that it is not in the interests of the competition to broadcast matches that have no impact on the outstanding issues of the season.
Therefore, for this weekend only, the policy has been amended to ensure a minimum three weeks’ notice period is adhered to for the vacant TV slots scheduled for 7.45pm on Friday 27 April or 5.30pm on Saturday 28 April.
Great update thanks. Unfortunately will only be able to go either derby or home play off and was going to buy derby online tomoz but will prob wait till tv fixtures announced now . Has anyone got play off dates please ?
Play Off dates are Fri 11/05 and Sat 12/05 .....Mon 14/05 and Tues 15/05
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Anyone seen our heard any sight of tv fixtures yet for derby game weekend ?
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Anyone seen our heard any sight of tv fixtures yet for derby game weekend ?
According to the Sky Fixtures site (http://www.skysports.com/championship-fixtures) Fulham are playing Sunderland on Friday 27th, 7:45; Middlesbrough play Millwall at 5:30 on the Saturday, but they're not yet on its televised fixtures page. Don't know when they were announced and how much scope they have to change things now
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Anyone seen our heard any sight of tv fixtures yet for derby game weekend ?
According to the Sky Fixtures site (http://www.skysports.com/championship-fixtures) Fulham are playing Sunderland on Friday 27th, 7:45; Middlesbrough play Millwall at 5:30 on the Saturday, but they're not yet on its televised fixtures page. Don't know when they were announced and how much scope they have to change things now
As you were - just checked again and they've moved them all back to 3:00 on the Saturday. They've changed back on the Beeb fixtures page too. Looks like they're reconsidering
Edit: And now they're back again!
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I presume we're o.k for 3pm then?
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I presume we're o.k for 3pm then?
Seems that way. Fulham v Sunderland on friday and Boro v Millwall on Saturday confirmed for TV.
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I presume we're o.k for 3pm then?
Seems that way. Fulham v Sunderland on friday and Boro v Millwall on Saturday confirmed for TV.
Fulham announcement on their site just after 5pm saying they’ve been chosen for fri night so guess we’re ok
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Bollocks. That means I have no excuse not to get to pub early and meet the Faroese contingent. I don't think my health ever recovered after we "celebrated" the semi final win against Liverpool.
I woke up with a big Liverpool flag on a stick in my hotel room I had nicked the night before and we apparently rounded the night off with a £600 bottle of akvavit that I don't even remember seeing, let alone drinking.
And that was after Lord knows how many pints, a couple of bottles of champagne and a lot of Sambuca. I took two days to sober up properly so fuck knows how they got back on the plane home.
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Glad they're sticking to the five week notice rule anyway.
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We have completely fucked sky over with our ‘collapse’ so it’s not all bad.
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I presume we're o.k for 3pm then?
Seems that way. Fulham v Sunderland on friday and Boro v Millwall on Saturday confirmed for TV.
I can see why they chose those rather than us. As things stand, us against Derby doesn't look like it'll be too important. Hopefully, though, it'll be a decision that's regretted!
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Fulham might actually be more of a dead game. Think I read somewhere Sunderland could be down by end of play next Tuesday and if Cardiff win a few then second will be out of everyone's reach.
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Just glad that the game wasn't moved to late Sat. I'm due in Monmouth around 7pm.
Hopefully I'll make it to the Bartons pre-game for EdvardFest 2018 but that'll depend on the joy that is the M5 roadworks
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I see our next 3 fixtures are all on sky, Norwich away, Cardiff home, Leeds away, bollox should've cancelled my subscription with AVTV for April!
I'm back in Brum for the Derby game :)
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Leeds is at Villa Park.
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Spose if your in vaneramper land there all away.
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Seeing as Derby has been mentioned a lot in this thread I thought I'd put it in here. Upper Trinity is open with the rest of the ground close to selling out. Should be 40k+.
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does anyone have an inkling as to how AV will allocate tickets for the semis should we make it? I can't see tony's generosity extending to adding it to ST's so maybe season ticket holders will get first dibs?
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does anyone have an inkling as to how AV will allocate tickets for the semis should we make it? I can't see tony's generosity extending to adding it to ST's so maybe season ticket holders will get first dibs?
Without doubt ST holder will be given an option to get their seats (as well upper trinity holders) We will be paying - and I doubt it will be kids for a quid!
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does anyone have an inkling as to how AV will allocate tickets for the semis should we make it? I can't see tony's generosity extending to adding it to ST's so maybe season ticket holders will get first dibs?
Without doubt ST holder will be given an option to get their seats (as well upper trinity holders) We will be paying - and I doubt it will be kids for a quid!
I might be wildly optimistic, but I'm sure Keith Wyness hinted at an FCG meeting that they'd rather have the ground full than charge top whack.
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does anyone have an inkling as to how AV will allocate tickets for the semis should we make it? I can't see tony's generosity extending to adding it to ST's so maybe season ticket holders will get first dibs?
Without doubt ST holder will be given an option to get their seats (as well upper trinity holders) We will be paying - and I doubt it will be kids for a quid!
I might be wildly optimistic, but I'm sure Keith Wyness hinted at an FCG meeting that they'd rather have the ground full than charge top whack.
Hopefully he follows that up as a full Villa Park in full voice is one hell of a weapon to have in games like that. Look what happened to the runaway league leaders when they came up against Villa Park in full voice.