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Heroes & Villains => Other Football => Topic started by: Dave on January 09, 2014, 10:50:40 PM

Title: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Dave on January 09, 2014, 10:50:40 PM
So, that Pepe Mel huh?

He seems pretty mediocre.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: willywombat on January 09, 2014, 10:57:50 PM
Whoooooo?
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Monty on January 09, 2014, 10:59:44 PM
I think the whole thing will live and die on how well he adjusts to the new language. He seems actually like he's done some decent work and played progressive football. People on here got excited about Lambert taking a decent sized club fallen on hard times, giving it some stability, getting it back to the top flight and staying there - Mel P got a decent sized club fallen on catastrophic times, and got them promoted and into Europe with the chaos going on around him, so he's clearly got something. However, plenty of managers with plenty about them have failed to cross a language barrier, so we'll see.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on January 09, 2014, 11:02:44 PM


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Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Des Little on January 09, 2014, 11:56:58 PM
It goes without saying that I hope it all ends in tears. Bastards
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: cdbullyweefan on January 10, 2014, 01:04:51 AM
I reckon he'll be good. His name's nearly an anagram of "Me Pele" so he must know a thing or two about football. And erectile disfunction, obviously.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: OzVilla on January 10, 2014, 06:55:27 AM
Despite what the more common holier than thou Sandwell fan will no doubt make out, this appointment is not quite what they were hoping for a few weeks ago.

Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: lovejoy on January 10, 2014, 07:34:20 AM
BBC Sport says he wanted to bring his back room staff when originally approached but has agreed not to now. I wonder how that will work out.
His second game is against us. Yet again Villa play a team on a new manager bounce, just like Fulham and Crystal Palace. What are the chances Big Sam goes before 8 February?
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Chris Harte on January 10, 2014, 07:45:20 AM
We've already got a thr......


What happened to the other thread about this?
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Damo70 on January 10, 2014, 08:08:03 AM
So the criteria was clearly a Spanish manager because it has worked well for Southampton and preferably an out of work one.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: manic-road on January 10, 2014, 08:11:56 AM
Pepe who?
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: OzVilla on January 10, 2014, 08:22:42 AM
Le Pew?
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Damo70 on January 10, 2014, 08:24:35 AM
I still think Pepe Mel sounds like a clown that would pop up on a circus shown on telly at Christmas when I was a kid.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: walsall villain on January 10, 2014, 08:38:35 AM
His record looked good until this season. Disastrous run that even we haven't matched so how good can he be?
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: UK Redsox on January 10, 2014, 09:33:05 AM
Mel ? We'll "C" how he "B"
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Bald Eagle on January 10, 2014, 09:50:56 AM
Sky sports news stated that "he speaks little English". He'll fit in well at Smethwick then.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: danlanza on January 10, 2014, 11:15:48 AM
Sky sports news stated that "he speaks little English". He'll fit in well at Smethwick then.
Who don't speak English at all.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Dave on January 10, 2014, 11:47:46 AM
We've already got a thr......


What happened to the other thread about this?
Some tosser accidentally pressed the wrong button and deleted it.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Bren'd on January 10, 2014, 11:50:07 AM
Not what they were hoping for is it?  No back room staff either so he's going to have to instill his ideas into the current coaching staff.  It's going to take time which Albion fans aren't noted for allowing. 
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Chris Jameson on January 10, 2014, 12:01:33 PM
He was always their first choice. If they keep repeating it somebody will believe it.
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Post by: pauliewalnuts on January 10, 2014, 12:22:32 PM
He was always their first choice. If they keep repeating it somebody will believe it.

So convinced are they that he is the man, they've given him an extravagant 18 month contract.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Bren'd on January 10, 2014, 12:37:02 PM
He was always their first choice. If they keep repeating it somebody will believe it.

So convinced are they that he is the man, they've given him an extravagant 18 month contract.

His brief is obviously to make sure that Albion finish above the Villa this season. They can probably just about afford to pay up the remainder of his remaining 12 months if he doesn't.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: pauliewalnuts on January 10, 2014, 01:41:38 PM
He was always their first choice. If they keep repeating it somebody will believe it.

So convinced are they that he is the man, they've given him an extravagant 18 month contract.

His brief is obviously to make sure that Albion finish above the Villa this season. They can probably just about afford to pay up the remainder of his remaining 12 months if he doesn't.

His English is poor, by all accounts, so no doubt they'll get him a tutor in with the brief to make sure the first four words he learns are ASTON VILLA CUP FINAL
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on January 10, 2014, 01:43:18 PM
They should show him the 'Black Country Alphabet Song' to help him to learn the local lingo.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: cheltenhamlion on January 10, 2014, 02:17:02 PM
Our resident stripey is delighted with the appointment and not concerned about previous sackings as all managers get sacked.

They do indeed, but 5 times?
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on January 10, 2014, 02:26:01 PM
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His English is poor, by all accounts, so no doubt they'll get him a tutor in with the brief to make sure the first four words he learns are ASTON VILLA CUP FINAL

There's a few other essential phrases his tutor will need to learn him, pronto:

It ay fair
Super Bobby Taylor
We know what we am

Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 10, 2014, 02:27:42 PM
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His English is poor, by all accounts, so no doubt they'll get him a tutor in with the brief to make sure the first four words he learns are ASTON VILLA CUP FINAL

There's a few other essential phrases his tutor will need to learn him, pronto:

It ay fair
Super Bobby Taylor
We know what we am



Weed a wun it if it wor s'code.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Richard E on January 10, 2014, 04:24:37 PM
If we win, that's to be expected given their resources etc but if we celebrate it we're arrogant.

If they win, it's a big deal, we're rubbish and they are allowed to celebrate.

If we draw, then there is some reason why it is a moral victory for them and they are allowed to celebrate.   
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Nathan on January 11, 2014, 12:02:48 PM
As a WBA fan, this thread is as hilarious as it is inaccurate.  Keep it going, boys.  :D
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Chris Smith on January 11, 2014, 12:10:03 PM
I still think Pepe Mel sounds like a clown that would pop up on a circus shown on telly at Christmas when I was a kid.

Or a mine artist, which considering he can't speak English might come in handy.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: dave shelley on January 11, 2014, 12:12:26 PM
As a WBA fan, this thread is as hilarious as it is inaccurate.  Keep it going, boys.  :D

Almost as funny as WBA.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 11, 2014, 12:13:26 PM
As a WBA fan, this thread is as hilarious as it is inaccurate.  Keep it going, boys.  :D

Ah, another one wot cor keep away.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Monty on January 11, 2014, 12:13:50 PM
As a WBA fan, this thread is as hilarious as it is inaccurate.  Keep it going, boys.  :D

Is that an attempt to claim a moral victory from the thread?
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Nathan on January 11, 2014, 12:48:01 PM
As a WBA fan, this thread is as hilarious as it is inaccurate.  Keep it going, boys.  :D

Ah, another one wot cor keep away.

One of your most prominent fans, Carl Chinn, adopts the Black Country dialect because he would rather speak like us than like a Brummie.

If anyone can mock the way we speak, it really isn't Brummies.

Keep it going.  :D
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Monty on January 11, 2014, 12:50:59 PM
As a WBA fan, this thread is as hilarious as it is inaccurate.  Keep it going, boys.  :D

Ah, another one wot cor keep away.

One of your most prominent fans, Carl Chinn, adopts the Black Country dialect because he would rather speak like us than like a Brummie.

If anyone can mock the way we speak, it really isn't Brummies.

Keep it going.  :D

The funny thing is, there are plenty of folk in the Black Country who support Villa over the local options. What's Baggies' appeal outside of a three mile radius of the Hawthorns?
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Damo70 on January 11, 2014, 01:01:45 PM
As a WBA fan, this thread is as hilarious as it is inaccurate.  Keep it going, boys.  :D

We are just jealous that despite appointing three different managers in recent years on each occasion we didn't take the opportunity to try to bring in Mel Pepe.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Nathan on January 11, 2014, 01:24:23 PM
As a WBA fan, this thread is as hilarious as it is inaccurate.  Keep it going, boys.  :D

Ah, another one wot cor keep away.

One of your most prominent fans, Carl Chinn, adopts the Black Country dialect because he would rather speak like us than like a Brummie.

If anyone can mock the way we speak, it really isn't Brummies.

Keep it going.  :D

The funny thing is, there are plenty of folk in the Black Country who support Villa over the local options. What's Baggies' appeal outside of a three mile radius of the Hawthorns?

I don't know. There was never going to be any other team I could support. Ask the Brummies who choose to support us.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Nathan on January 11, 2014, 01:25:34 PM
As a WBA fan, this thread is as hilarious as it is inaccurate.  Keep it going, boys.  :D

We are just jealous that despite appointing three different managers in recent years on each occasion we didn't take the opportunity to try to bring in Mel Pepe.

Nevermind, you still have Lambert.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: peter w on January 11, 2014, 01:29:34 PM
You never know Nathan may be one of the more reasoned Albion fans.Let's see. Hand's up if you recognise your club.

I'm pretty sure the half time boos last season passed over the Channel and reached Calais. You were either booing your team and manager off the pitch for the umpteenth time last season, or it was a 45th minute boo to signify the number of years since you'd last won anything. I'm not sure which....

And as for us referring to you as small time, something that I've noticed is a bit of a bug bear for Albion fans. Well, you are....You did an applause in the eighth minute because a team you're obsessed with got beaten in a league game, you bring out DVDs when you draw and win football matches, you hold anniversary dinners for a team that won a league match at Old Trafford(!!), you sing the name of a former player who couldn't wait to move on from the club, you celebrate your manager being taken by England by holding an England day at your last away game, your sponsors make a banner with We Know What We Are written on it and your fans and players alike hold it aloft. Every song you sing mentions Aston Villa Football Club, your players wear under-layers with WKWWA printed on them, your kit man writes We Know What We Are on footballs and constantly lies to your own supporters about how many fans you're taking to your away games because he's so embarrassed about your shit support. You only take a following to Aston Villa and take a few hundred supporters everywhere else, yet can't sell out at home (for the third season running, I'd hasten to add - what's that about TV, kick-off times and ticket prices?!) in a game your own players describe as being like a 'Champions League' tie. Everything about your club is small time and tinpot. Let's make that abundantly clear.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Nathan on January 11, 2014, 01:54:38 PM
You never know Nathan may be one of the more reasoned Albion fans.Let's see. Hand's up if you recognise your club.

I'm pretty sure the half time boos last season passed over the Channel and reached Calais. You were either booing your team and manager off the pitch for the umpteenth time last season, or it was a 45th minute boo to signify the number of years since you'd last won anything. I'm not sure which....

And as for us referring to you as small time, something that I've noticed is a bit of a bug bear for Albion fans. Well, you are....You did an applause in the eighth minute because a team you're obsessed with got beaten in a league game, you bring out DVDs when you draw and win football matches, you hold anniversary dinners for a team that won a league match at Old Trafford(!!), you sing the name of a former player who couldn't wait to move on from the club, you celebrate your manager being taken by England by holding an England day at your last away game, your sponsors make a banner with We Know What We Are written on it and your fans and players alike hold it aloft. Every song you sing mentions Aston Villa Football Club, your players wear under-layers with WKWWA printed on them, your kit man writes We Know What We Are on footballs and constantly lies to your own supporters about how many fans you're taking to your away games because he's so embarrassed about your shit support. You only take a following to Aston Villa and take a few hundred supporters everywhere else, yet can't sell out at home (for the third season running, I'd hasten to add - what's that about TV, kick-off times and ticket prices?!) in a game your own players describe as being like a 'Champions League' tie. Everything about your club is small time and tinpot. Let's make that abundantly clear.

Yeah, I'm, laid-back. It's a game of football, that's all.

Of course, Villa fans never boo their team off, do they?

There was no 8th minute applause.

We sing the name of a former player who couldn't wait to move on from the club? Who?

We have many songs. One mentions Aston Villa, so that's something else that's wrong.

As for poor support, where were you at Southampton? We take a steady 2000-3000 to most away matches. Something else you have got wrong, there. Considering that you are the only club in the UK's second largest city, your support is not spectacular, is it? Add to that the fact that you also attract support from surrounding towns like Lichfield, Tamworth, etc, even less so.

You are calling us 'tinpot' and 'small-time' but there is only one of us consumed with bile and inaccuracy. That is small-time, I am afraid.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Richard E on January 11, 2014, 01:58:15 PM
Someone should tell Blose that apparently Aston Villa are the only club in Birmingham as it may have escaped their notice.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on January 11, 2014, 02:05:37 PM
Gotta laugh at Albion fans and their shit support. They talk about our catchment area as the reason for us having a much bigger following. They're 3 miles away from us so they operate in exactly the same catchment area.

Bigger than Blues, smaller than Wolves.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Ian J on January 11, 2014, 02:15:39 PM
Wolves with all their woes are a far more classy, bigger and more glamorous club than whatever WBA will be.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 11, 2014, 02:20:00 PM
If there was no eighth minute applause how come your own official Twitter feed mentioned it, you sad, smalltime, lying little boy?
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Nathan on January 11, 2014, 02:24:25 PM
If there was no eighth minute applause how come your own official Twitter feed mentioned it, you sad, smalltime, lying little boy?

Did it?

Again, you call me 'small-time', yet, the bilious responses are all one way.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: peter w on January 11, 2014, 02:24:53 PM
You never know Nathan may be one of the more reasoned Albion fans.Let's see. Hand's up if you recognise your club.

I'm pretty sure the half time boos last season passed over the Channel and reached Calais. You were either booing your team and manager off the pitch for the umpteenth time last season, or it was a 45th minute boo to signify the number of years since you'd last won anything. I'm not sure which....

And as for us referring to you as small time, something that I've noticed is a bit of a bug bear for Albion fans. Well, you are....You did an applause in the eighth minute because a team you're obsessed with got beaten in a league game, you bring out DVDs when you draw and win football matches, you hold anniversary dinners for a team that won a league match at Old Trafford(!!), you sing the name of a former player who couldn't wait to move on from the club, you celebrate your manager being taken by England by holding an England day at your last away game, your sponsors make a banner with We Know What We Are written on it and your fans and players alike hold it aloft. Every song you sing mentions Aston Villa Football Club, your players wear under-layers with WKWWA printed on them, your kit man writes We Know What We Are on footballs and constantly lies to your own supporters about how many fans you're taking to your away games because he's so embarrassed about your shit support. You only take a following to Aston Villa and take a few hundred supporters everywhere else, yet can't sell out at home (for the third season running, I'd hasten to add - what's that about TV, kick-off times and ticket prices?!) in a game your own players describe as being like a 'Champions League' tie. Everything about your club is small time and tinpot. Let's make that abundantly clear.

Oops  sorry villaalways. Forgot to credit you with the post.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Nathan on January 11, 2014, 02:25:40 PM
Wolves with all their woes are a far more classy, bigger and more glamorous club than whatever WBA will be.

If you say so. Meanwhile, clubs from Nottingham, Liverpool, Manchester, Leeds, Newcastle are bigger than the major club in the UK's second-biggest city.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: class_of_82 on January 11, 2014, 02:26:02 PM
Radio 5 presenter Rachel burden gave some yam yam 10 mins at least yesterday morning bout 6-30 am going on about pepe Mel and the Cropley cripples. Pride of the midlands?

Most league championships - villa
Most league cups- villa
Most f.a. Cups villa
Most European cups - villa
I could go on and on couldn't i

 They make you laugh don't they
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: class_of_82 on January 11, 2014, 02:27:57 PM
Should of read Cropley cripplers
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Nathan on January 11, 2014, 02:28:15 PM
Gotta laugh at Albion fans and their shit support. They talk about our catchment area as the reason for us having a much bigger following. They're 3 miles away from us so they operate in exactly the same catchment area.

Bigger than Blues, smaller than Wolves.

Erm...No, it doesn't work like that. Your catchment area is the whole of Birmingham and you pull people in from the satellite towns. Ours is West Bromwich and parts of surrounding towns like Dudley, Tipton, etc.

If you have a look at the population of your catchment area and ours, it puts your attendances compared to ours in perspective.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Nathan on January 11, 2014, 02:29:21 PM
Someone should tell Blose that apparently Aston Villa are the only club in Birmingham as it may have escaped their notice.

It's a figure of speech. Blues are getting crowds of 13000. They are not much of a threat to you. If you need me to write literally from now on to save confusion, I will.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: dave shelley on January 11, 2014, 02:30:01 PM
I suggest we lock the thread as he's beginning to achieve what he set out to achieve, and that's to wind us up, and we're biting.  By locking it we will show how small-time and Villa-obsessed he and his shitty little club are.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Nathan on January 11, 2014, 02:31:05 PM
Should of read Cropley cripplers

Even 'Should have' read.

Do Blues call you 'Broadhurst bashers'? The difference is that Ally Brown didn't mean it. Did McMahon?
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Nathan on January 11, 2014, 02:31:35 PM
I suggest we lock the thread as he's beginning to achieve what he set out to achieve, and that's to wind us up, and we're biting.  By locking it we will show how small-time and Villa-obsessed he and his shitty little club are.

Small-time reply, that, mate.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on January 11, 2014, 02:32:45 PM
I know how exactly how it works - your support is poor ( highlighted by the fact that we've got an Albion fan trolling on a Villa fans' forum half an hour before his own team are due to kick off - you posting from Southampton?) and you come up with dubious excuses for it. It's like shooting fish in a barrel, correcting Albion fans.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Nathan on January 11, 2014, 02:33:06 PM
Anyway, I'll leave you to your little hate-in.

Good luck for rest of the season (and, yes, I do mean it. I have no problem with you, personally).
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Monty on January 11, 2014, 02:34:08 PM
I suggest we lock the thread as he's beginning to achieve what he set out to achieve, and that's to wind us up, and we're biting.  By locking it we will show how small-time and Villa-obsessed he and his shitty little club are.

Small-time reply, that, mate.

Not really. Here's the crucial difference: for various reasons, we dislike your club; for reasons unknown by all except yourself, you are so obsessed with that you have come on a Villa fansite to try and troll. That's small-time.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: peter w on January 11, 2014, 02:34:47 PM
I suggest we lock the thread as he's beginning to achieve what he set out to achieve, and that's to wind us up, and we're biting.  By locking it we will show how small-time and Villa-obsessed he and his shitty little club are.

Small-time reply, that, mate.

It's allowed to be. Villa fan postingt o Villa fans on a Villa fans forum. Quite simple really.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: dave shelley on January 11, 2014, 02:36:19 PM
It isn't me that's gone on to another clubs' forum and started to take the piss.  At least your Baggie mate Liam seems like a bloke you could have a decent discussion with without resulting in wind-up.

You can't have very much going on in your life if, on a Saturday afternoon you choose to come on here stirring the shit.  Southampton too far away for you is it?  Just in case you don't know where that is, get a map of the UK and you'll find it at the bottom.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Ad@m on January 11, 2014, 02:36:38 PM
Gotta laugh at Albion fans and their shit support. They talk about our catchment area as the reason for us having a much bigger following. They're 3 miles away from us so they operate in exactly the same catchment area.

Bigger than Blues, smaller than Wolves.

Erm...No, it doesn't work like that. Your catchment area is the whole of Birmingham and you pull people in from the satellite towns. Ours is West Bromwich and parts of surrounding towns like Dudley, Tipton, etc.

If you have a look at the population of your catchment area and ours, it puts your attendances compared to ours in perspective.

Nothing says small time more than ignoring vast swathes of population just down the road from your own ground because 'that's not our catchment area'!!
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 11, 2014, 02:39:07 PM
Wolves with all their woes are a far more classy, bigger and more glamorous club than whatever WBA will be.

If you say so. Meanwhile, clubs from Nottingham, Liverpool, Manchester, Leeds, Newcastle are bigger than the major club in the UK's second-biggest city.

And Nathan isn't obsessed.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Monty on January 11, 2014, 02:40:46 PM
Wolves with all their woes are a far more classy, bigger and more glamorous club than whatever WBA will be.

If you say so. Meanwhile, clubs from Nottingham, Liverpool, Manchester, Leeds, Newcastle are bigger than the major club in the UK's second-biggest city.

And Nathan isn't obsessed.

Have to say, trying to claim that Leeds and Nottingham Forest are bigger clubs than us takes an even bigger leap of faith than it must to make yourself support Smethwick.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: cheltenhamlion on January 11, 2014, 05:19:54 PM
Good start for Mel P then.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: peter w on January 11, 2014, 05:24:54 PM
I feel for them. If they could have got a point they would have known what they are again. Do they still sing that song?
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Nev on January 11, 2014, 05:51:49 PM
The famous 515 at Man City last season always springs to mind when Albion crow about their away following. It was midweek though.

In their bestest ever season ever.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on January 11, 2014, 05:59:31 PM
Good start for Mel P then.

He wasn't in charge today but still a good result (if you don't like Albion)
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: olaftab on January 11, 2014, 06:00:19 PM
Good start for Mel P then.
Apparently he didn't sing live today. The other fella was on shouting duties.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 11, 2014, 06:18:34 PM
Wolves with all their woes are a far more classy, bigger and more glamorous club than whatever WBA will be.

If you say so. Meanwhile, clubs from Nottingham, Liverpool, Manchester, Leeds, Newcastle are bigger than the major club in the UK's second-biggest city.

And Nathan isn't obsessed.

Have to say, trying to claim that Leeds and Nottingham Forest are bigger clubs than us takes an even bigger leap of faith than it must to make yourself support Smethwick.

He also claimed Carl Chinn speaks Yam and they take thousands away everywhere. It isn't as though he's inconsistent.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Villa in Denmark on January 11, 2014, 10:10:54 PM
Wolves with all their woes are a far more classy, bigger and more glamorous club than whatever WBA will be.

If you say so. Meanwhile, clubs from Nottingham, Liverpool, Manchester, Leeds, Newcastle are bigger than the major club in the UK's second-biggest city.

And Nathan isn't obsessed.

Have to say, trying to claim that Leeds and Nottingham Forest are bigger clubs than us takes an even bigger leap of faith than it must to make yourself support Smethwick.

He also claimed Carl Chinn speaks Yam and they take thousands away everywhere. It isn't as though he's inconsistent. full of shit.
Fixed
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Ian J on January 11, 2014, 10:20:41 PM
He's gone then ? Well their new manager has done a better job than the rest of us in trying to shut him up. :)
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 11, 2014, 10:25:44 PM
The famous 515 at Man City last season always springs to mind when Albion crow about their away following. It was midweek though.

In their bestest ever season ever.

Second bestest. Their bestest ever was 1978-79 when they blazed a trail to the giddy heights of third in the league, and second in the Midlands. They finished above us that year, as they had the year before. They talk about those heady days a lot but something must have been put in the Smethwick water just after that, because none of them can remember the next few years
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on January 11, 2014, 10:49:00 PM
Radio 5 presenter Rachel burden gave some yam yam 10 mins at least yesterday morning bout 6-30 am going on about pepe Mel and the Cropley cripples. Pride of the midlands?

Most league championships - villa
Most league cups- villa
Most f.a. Cups villa
Most European cups - villa
I could go on and on couldn't i

 They make you laugh don't they
And out of nowhere he mentioned that the new manager would help them to "polish off the Villa. It would be great if we could polish off the Villa." or something very similar. Think he actually mentioned us more than he did them!

A chance on national radio to big up your own team and your newly appointed manager and you immediately refer to beating your local rival as the ultimate in achievements. What a twat!
We know what they are!

Has Nathan gone?
Another perfect example of a boggies mon obsessed with the Villa.
Carl Chinn"affects" a Black Country accent?
Nathan, have you ever thought that's just the way he talks.
A bit like you're just a c**t?
Fun times!
UTV!
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: VillaAlways on January 11, 2014, 11:52:57 PM
You never know Nathan may be one of the more reasoned Albion fans.Let's see. Hand's up if you recognise your club.

I'm pretty sure the half time boos last season passed over the Channel and reached Calais. You were either booing your team and manager off the pitch for the umpteenth time last season, or it was a 45th minute boo to signify the number of years since you'd last won anything. I'm not sure which....

And as for us referring to you as small time, something that I've noticed is a bit of a bug bear for Albion fans. Well, you are....You did an applause in the eighth minute because a team you're obsessed with got beaten in a league game, you bring out DVDs when you draw and win football matches, you hold anniversary dinners for a team that won a league match at Old Trafford(!!), you sing the name of a former player who couldn't wait to move on from the club, you celebrate your manager being taken by England by holding an England day at your last away game, your sponsors make a banner with We Know What We Are written on it and your fans and players alike hold it aloft. Every song you sing mentions Aston Villa Football Club, your players wear under-layers with WKWWA printed on them, your kit man writes We Know What We Are on footballs and constantly lies to your own supporters about how many fans you're taking to your away games because he's so embarrassed about your shit support. You only take a following to Aston Villa and take a few hundred supporters everywhere else, yet can't sell out at home (for the third season running, I'd hasten to add - what's that about TV, kick-off times and ticket prices?!) in a game your own players describe as being like a 'Champions League' tie. Everything about your club is small time and tinpot. Let's make that abundantly clear.

Oops  sorry villaalways. Forgot to credit you with the post.
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Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: pauliewalnuts on January 11, 2014, 11:56:40 PM
I suggest we lock the thread as he's beginning to achieve what he set out to achieve, and that's to wind us up, and we're biting.  By locking it we will show how small-time and Villa-obsessed he and his shitty little club are.

Small-time reply, that, mate.

Here's an even more small time reply.

I've banned you, you twat.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: richtheholtender on January 12, 2014, 12:09:52 AM
I suggest we lock the thread as he's beginning to achieve what he set out to achieve, and that's to wind us up, and we're biting.  By locking it we will show how small-time and Villa-obsessed he and his shitty little club are.

Small-time reply, that, mate.

Here's an even more small time reply.

I've banned you, you twat.


Ha ha, brilliant.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Dave Cooper please on January 12, 2014, 12:52:44 AM

There was no 8th minute applause.


My son was at that game, and being one of the very few sensible Boggie fans he tweeted - and I quote - "WTF? applauding a defeat for a team we really shouldn't care about? No, having no part in that."
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: OzVilla on January 12, 2014, 05:58:14 AM
Nice to see Nathan lived up to being a typical Albion fan.

Sanctimonious to the last and in denial about how much the Villa gets under his skin.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Somniloquism on January 12, 2014, 09:41:18 AM
It is a shame he is banned. We could have asked about his opinion on his club allowing Anelka to continue to play without a full apology. I'm sure he would have turned the discussion around to Villa in some way though.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Damo70 on January 12, 2014, 10:31:14 AM
It is nice to know that apart from West Bromwich, Dudley and Tipton we have the whole of Birmingham and it's out lying areas to ourselves. Apart from the 13,000 people who haven't realised we are the only team in Birmingham. No wonder we are nearly as big as Nottingham Forest.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Clampy on January 12, 2014, 10:48:24 AM
It's a shame he's been banned. I like it when Stripeyfilth come on here and make an absolute arse of themselves and he did it better than most.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Ad@m on January 12, 2014, 12:29:19 PM
It's a shame he's been banned. I like it when Stripeyfilth come on here and make an absolute arse of themselves and he did it better than most.

Exactly.  I wanted to keep him too.  He wasn't as simple as the nose we had on here recently telling us how the football league were going to commandeer Small Heath and hand them over for free to a gazillionaire but he was entertaining enough.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 13, 2014, 01:29:40 PM
Don't look at me. I wanted him to explain how the Pride of the Midlands have spent the best part of 140 years apparently not being able to attract supporters from 100 yards away.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Ads on January 13, 2014, 01:52:02 PM
Why did we take more to Southampton on a mid-week before Christmas, than the Pride of the Midlands on a Saturday?
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Monty on January 13, 2014, 07:03:46 PM
Sid Lowe says Pepe Mel is really good, especially with youth players (gave 16 youth players their debuts and many have gone onto significant things), and achieved good results and good-to-watch football on absolutely no budget. When he was sacked, the fans threw rocks at the stadium from the outside in protest.

In a word, damn. Frankly, he sounds like a good manager for us.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: cheltenhamlion on January 13, 2014, 08:08:54 PM
Bespectacled Black Country girl on the train is talking. I put it here because she has said some gems so far.

"What is wrong with Dad? Why is he being fair to those Brummie c***s?" As her opening stanza when they were talking football.

Oh my.

Not related to football, but she has also enquired "fuck you, Dad, you have been told. Now (rather than no), you can all kiss my arse. Its not my fault youm a c***".

Delightful! They are still going strong about why tais Troglodyte thinks her family are backwards.

And if they are, it dow say a lot dow it...
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: johnny from donny on January 17, 2014, 07:04:31 PM
Just heard zoopla have told them they will end their sponsorship immediately if anelka plays this weekend
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 17, 2014, 07:08:02 PM
Just heard zoopla have told them they will end their sponsorship immediately if anelka plays this weekend

http://www.marketingweek.co.uk/sectors/sport/news/zoopla-on-the-brink-of-axing-west-brom-deal-over-controversial-anelka-salute/4009148.article
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: johnny from donny on January 17, 2014, 07:10:28 PM
Thanks Dave, the story is being discussed on talksport at the moment.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 17, 2014, 07:12:44 PM
Much as I loathe the bastards, they should tell Zoopla to do one. You can't have clubs being dictated to by sponsors.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Ad@m on January 17, 2014, 07:21:01 PM
Much as I loathe the bastards, they should tell Zoopla to do one. You can't have clubs being dictated to by sponsors.

If anything he did his best to hide the sponsor!!

(http://www.hallstreet-tv.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/anelka-quenelle.jpg)
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Ad@m on January 17, 2014, 07:24:30 PM
Much as I loathe the bastards, they should tell Zoopla to do one. You can't have clubs being dictated to by sponsors.

Anyway, why?

I imagine they've paid the Boggies a fortune to have their name on the shirts.  As part of the deal there's almost certainly a clause about not doing anything to damage the brand (aside of the obvious brand-damaging shitness that just is the Boggies!).  Given Zoopla's owned by a Jewish guy, I'm fairly sure seeing players doing anti-Semitic salutes on international TV would constitute breach of contract.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: johnny from donny on January 17, 2014, 07:27:20 PM
Much as I loathe the bastards, they should tell Zoopla to do one. You can't have clubs being dictated to by sponsors.
Or perhaps ask them to point out the clause in their sponsorship contract which states that they get to pick the team?
I appreciate the idea that it may show the company in a bad light ( or whatever legal terminology they might use to say that) but surely there is due process and, as of right now, Anelka hasn't been found guilty of any actual offence.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: walsall villain on January 17, 2014, 07:31:32 PM
Sorry to be trivial, but I just hope he can't play against us
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: danlanza on January 17, 2014, 07:52:52 PM
His head is on upside down. He should be banned, he might scare the kids.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Flamingo Lane on January 17, 2014, 07:58:55 PM
Please could we change the name of this thread.  It's not funny or clever, and misses the real point of our rivalry which, to those of us brought up in the Black Country, is intense.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: danlanza on January 17, 2014, 08:04:20 PM
Please could we change the name of this thread.  It's not funny or clever, and misses the real point of our rivalry which, to those of us brought up in the Black Country, is intense.
To what ?
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 17, 2014, 08:17:47 PM
Much as I loathe the bastards, they should tell Zoopla to do one. You can't have clubs being dictated to by sponsors.

Anyway, why?

I imagine they've paid the Boggies a fortune to have their name on the shirts.  As part of the deal there's almost certainly a clause about not doing anything to damage the brand (aside of the obvious brand-damaging shitness that just is the Boggies!).  Given Zoopla's owned by a Jewish guy, I'm fairly sure seeing players doing anti-Semitic salutes on international TV would constitute breach of contract.

It sets a precedent and gives too much power to sponsors.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Flamingo Lane on January 17, 2014, 08:25:00 PM
Please could we change the name of this thread.  It's not funny or clever, and misses the real point of our rivalry which, to those of us brought up in the Black Country, is intense.
To what ?

I suggest the WBA thread.  Or, for a real side splitter if you like, the Smethwick thread.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: danlanza on January 17, 2014, 08:47:02 PM
Please could we change the name of this thread.  It's not funny or clever, and misses the real point of our rivalry which, to those of us brought up in the Black Country, is intense.
To what ?

I suggest the WBA thread.  Or, for a real side splitter if you like, the Smethwick thread.
Sounds good to me.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Ad@m on January 17, 2014, 09:01:09 PM
Much as I loathe the bastards, they should tell Zoopla to do one. You can't have clubs being dictated to by sponsors.

Anyway, why?

I imagine they've paid the Boggies a fortune to have their name on the shirts.  As part of the deal there's almost certainly a clause about not doing anything to damage the brand (aside of the obvious brand-damaging shitness that just is the Boggies!).  Given Zoopla's owned by a Jewish guy, I'm fairly sure seeing players doing anti-Semitic salutes on international TV would constitute breach of contract.

It sets a precedent and gives too much power to sponsors.

No one forces the clubs to take their money. Just like the players, if they get a lot of money out of the deal they need to behave in the way the person paying them expects.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 17, 2014, 10:14:23 PM
Much as I loathe the bastards, they should tell Zoopla to do one. You can't have clubs being dictated to by sponsors.

Anyway, why?

I imagine they've paid the Boggies a fortune to have their name on the shirts.  As part of the deal there's almost certainly a clause about not doing anything to damage the brand (aside of the obvious brand-damaging shitness that just is the Boggies!).  Given Zoopla's owned by a Jewish guy, I'm fairly sure seeing players doing anti-Semitic salutes on international TV would constitute breach of contract.

It sets a precedent and gives too much power to sponsors.

No one forces the clubs to take their money. Just like the players, if they get a lot of money out of the deal they need to behave in the way the person paying them expects.

The club should behave how the sponsor expects them to, even to the extent of letting them pick the team? I think not.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Ad@m on January 17, 2014, 10:18:34 PM
Much as I loathe the bastards, they should tell Zoopla to do one. You can't have clubs being dictated to by sponsors.

Anyway, why?

I imagine they've paid the Boggies a fortune to have their name on the shirts.  As part of the deal there's almost certainly a clause about not doing anything to damage the brand (aside of the obvious brand-damaging shitness that just is the Boggies!).  Given Zoopla's owned by a Jewish guy, I'm fairly sure seeing players doing anti-Semitic salutes on international TV would constitute breach of contract.

It sets a precedent and gives too much power to sponsors.

No one forces the clubs to take their money. Just like the players, if they get a lot of money out of the deal they need to behave in the way the person paying them expects.

The club should behave how the sponsor expects them to, even to the extent of letting them pick the team? I think not.

It is really that unreasonable for a Jewish company who's paying lots of money to the club to expect the club's representatives not to give anti-Semitic salutes on international TV?

If you paid ITV for an TV advert for H&V and what they delivered was a skinhead with a swastika tattoo holding your mag half way through Coronation Street you'd be fine with that would you?
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Ad@m on January 17, 2014, 10:19:55 PM
And this is all ignoring the simple fact that if you sign a contract the whole idea is that you adhere to the terms within it.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: danlanza on January 17, 2014, 10:24:00 PM
I didn't know that ZOOPLA were a jewish company.
I thought it was an advertisement for animal shite disposal from Dudley zoo.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 17, 2014, 10:24:41 PM
I don't think an advert would get showed unless approved by the advertisers and in any case they still wouldn't insist on a say in plot development. If you want a sponsor to have the power of veto over picking a team then fine. Don't complain when one day our sponsors declare a player unsuitable.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Ad@m on January 17, 2014, 10:25:45 PM
I don't think an advert would get showed unless approved by the advertisers and in any case they still wouldn't insist on a say in plot development. If you want a sponsor to have the power of veto over picking a team then fine. Don't complain when one day our sponsors declare a player unsuitable.

If we had a player giving Nazi salutes I'd never want to see him anywhere near the club again, no matter what our sponsor said.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Somniloquism on January 17, 2014, 11:36:28 PM
I think that is the problem. This gesture is a currently being underestimated by most people as it is not associated with a group who exterminated 6 million people but something started by a "comedian". I didn't see much criticism of companies and organisations that disassociated themselves from Sunderland because they appointed Di Canio. Yet this is the same thing.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Dave Cooper please on January 17, 2014, 11:38:28 PM
I don't think an advert would get showed unless approved by the advertisers and in any case they still wouldn't insist on a say in plot development. If you want a sponsor to have the power of veto over picking a team then fine. Don't complain when one day our sponsors declare a player unsuitable.

If we had a player giving Nazi salutes I'd never want to see him anywhere near the club again, no matter what our sponsor said.
It wasn't a Nazi salute.
It was a pathetic tribute to a shite comedian who would love to see this get the publicity it doesn't deserve to prolong his flagging career.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: danlanza on January 19, 2014, 11:35:13 AM
I think this episode is being taken very seriously by the FA now.
Big trouble for the bloke with the upside down head.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Damo70 on January 19, 2014, 12:43:43 PM
It might drive him into retirement. For the second time in six months.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Pete3206 on January 19, 2014, 02:02:27 PM
Dear Villa,
Please take that performance against Liverpool and repeat with utter ruthlessness on the 29th Jan.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Clampy on January 20, 2014, 10:51:28 AM
Much as I loathe the bastards, they should tell Zoopla to do one. You can't have clubs being dictated to by sponsors.

Anyway, why?

I imagine they've paid the Boggies a fortune to have their name on the shirts.  As part of the deal there's almost certainly a clause about not doing anything to damage the brand (aside of the obvious brand-damaging shitness that just is the Boggies!).  Given Zoopla's owned by a Jewish guy, I'm fairly sure seeing players doing anti-Semitic salutes on international TV would constitute breach of contract.

It sets a precedent and gives too much power to sponsors.

No one forces the clubs to take their money. Just like the players, if they get a lot of money out of the deal they need to behave in the way the person paying them expects.

The club should behave how the sponsor expects them to, even to the extent of letting them pick the team? I think not.

If you paid ITV for an TV advert for H&V and what they delivered was a skinhead with a swastika tattoo holding your mag half way through Coronation Street you'd be fine with that would you?

That was a bit of an over the top comparison really.

Zoopla are paying to have their name on the shirt. It dose'nt entitle them to tell the stripeyfilth how to handle their disciplinary procedures.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Ad@m on January 20, 2014, 01:50:56 PM
Much as I loathe the bastards, they should tell Zoopla to do one. You can't have clubs being dictated to by sponsors.

Anyway, why?

I imagine they've paid the Boggies a fortune to have their name on the shirts.  As part of the deal there's almost certainly a clause about not doing anything to damage the brand (aside of the obvious brand-damaging shitness that just is the Boggies!).  Given Zoopla's owned by a Jewish guy, I'm fairly sure seeing players doing anti-Semitic salutes on international TV would constitute breach of contract.

It sets a precedent and gives too much power to sponsors.

No one forces the clubs to take their money. Just like the players, if they get a lot of money out of the deal they need to behave in the way the person paying them expects.

The club should behave how the sponsor expects them to, even to the extent of letting them pick the team? I think not.

If you paid ITV for an TV advert for H&V and what they delivered was a skinhead with a swastika tattoo holding your mag half way through Coronation Street you'd be fine with that would you?

That was a bit of an over the top comparison really.

Zoopla are paying to have their name on the shirt. It dose'nt entitle them to tell the stripeyfilth how to handle their disciplinary procedures.

It's not over the top at all.  Zoopla have paid a considerable amount of money to have their name associated with the Boggies for whatever reason seemed sensible to them at the time.  I'm sure that wasn't with the expectation it would be associated with anti-Semitic salutes, which I'm sure to the Jewish owner is pretty sensitive. 

What I think people are missing here is that it isn't the case that Zoopla are telling the Boggies who to play.  They're just telling the Boggies that breaching the terms of their contract could mean Zoopla cancel it.  The Boggies have a choice - keep playing him and find a sponsor who doesn't mind their name being associated with that sort of behaviour or don't play him and take Zoopla's money.  If the Boggies want to carry on playing a guy who conducts himself like that I think Zoopla are well within their rights to cancel the sponsorship arrangement.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Concrete John on January 20, 2014, 01:56:35 PM
I think I agree with Ad@m here.  While sponsors should not be picking the team or the signings for commercial or profile purposes, they do have a right to withdraw their sponsorship in extraordinary circumstances like this.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Clampy on January 20, 2014, 02:35:34 PM
Much as I loathe the bastards, they should tell Zoopla to do one. You can't have clubs being dictated to by sponsors.

Anyway, why?

I imagine they've paid the Boggies a fortune to have their name on the shirts.  As part of the deal there's almost certainly a clause about not doing anything to damage the brand (aside of the obvious brand-damaging shitness that just is the Boggies!).  Given Zoopla's owned by a Jewish guy, I'm fairly sure seeing players doing anti-Semitic salutes on international TV would constitute breach of contract.

It sets a precedent and gives too much power to sponsors.

No one forces the clubs to take their money. Just like the players, if they get a lot of money out of the deal they need to behave in the way the person paying them expects.

The club should behave how the sponsor expects them to, even to the extent of letting them pick the team? I think not.

If you paid ITV for an TV advert for H&V and what they delivered was a skinhead with a swastika tattoo holding your mag half way through Coronation Street you'd be fine with that would you?

That was a bit of an over the top comparison really.

Zoopla are paying to have their name on the shirt. It dose'nt entitle them to tell the stripeyfilth how to handle their disciplinary procedures.

It's not over the top at all.  Zoopla have paid a considerable amount of money to have their name associated with the Boggies for whatever reason seemed sensible to them at the time.  I'm sure that wasn't with the expectation it would be associated with anti-Semitic salutes, which I'm sure to the Jewish owner is pretty sensitive. 

Yes it was a bit over the top and inaccurate really. When a company puts out an advert on the tellybox, they have a huge say in what kind of advert it will be. I'm pretty sure Dave wouldn't pay for a skinhead with swastikas to promote H&V. ITV don't make adverts anyway.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: damon loves JT on January 20, 2014, 02:46:18 PM
Anelka embodies many of the most unpleasant aspects of the modern game. Not least his complete unwillingness to be held to account for anything he does. Wants to use his fame to make a political statement. But won't take the consequences.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: danlanza on January 20, 2014, 03:03:29 PM
Zoopla have ended the deal with West Brom because of Anelka, Sky News.
Meh, at the end of the season.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: dekko on January 20, 2014, 04:29:30 PM
Has anyone got a picture of that banner Zoopla made for them?
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: placeforparks on January 20, 2014, 05:09:43 PM
zoopla's contract is until the end of the season anyway. essentially, they're doing fuck all.

if they wanted to make a proper stand, take the logo off their shirt and replace it with an anti-racism charity or something.

zoopla have had a load of free publicity from all of this.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Virgil Caine on January 20, 2014, 06:25:29 PM
zoopla's contract is until the end of the season anyway. essentially, they're doing fuck all.

if they wanted to make a proper stand, take the logo off their shirt and replace it with an anti-racism charity or something.

zoopla have had a load of free publicity from all of this.

Which is quite timely as they are planning to float Zoopla on the Stock Exchange. Being cynical the free publicity will help matters in a competitive on line estate agency market, on the realism side I cannot really blame them for wanting to protect brand image whilst they approach The City for listing and maxing out in the potential share price.

I still cannot understand why the reasonably respected F&C Investment backed the noses, cheap deal I would have thought but as many of the supporter base would struggle to spell F&C one wonders what value they had out of it.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: pauliewalnuts on January 20, 2014, 07:27:56 PM
zoopla's contract is until the end of the season anyway. essentially, they're doing fuck all.

if they wanted to make a proper stand, take the logo off their shirt and replace it with an anti-racism charity or something.

zoopla have had a load of free publicity from all of this.

What a principled stand that is.

We won't renew the contract because your player made an anti semitic gesture, but we'll let it run for the remainder of the season when it was due to expire anyway?
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: pauliewalnuts on January 20, 2014, 07:31:51 PM
I think I agree with Ad@m here.  While sponsors should not be picking the team or the signings for commercial or profile purposes, they do have a right to withdraw their sponsorship in extraordinary circumstances like this.

Isn't that two seperate arguments, though?

From a quick glance, Adam seemed to suggest that Zoopla are in the right to put pressure on Albion not to play Anelka.

That's not the same thing as terminating their agreement (which, incidentally, they're not actually doing anyway), which one assumes they will have a right to do in the terms of the contract between them and Albion.

If Zoopla feel the have to put pressure on the stripeys not to play him, then that's what they'll do, I suspect, but they have to be prepared for the stripeys to tell them to do one.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: pauliewalnuts on January 20, 2014, 07:34:44 PM
I wonder if Zoopla will make them give back, or take their name off, that "We know what we are" banner?
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: danlanza on January 20, 2014, 07:53:27 PM
They could leave the Zoo bit on though. Perfect description of the Hawthorns.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: cheltenhamlion on January 20, 2014, 08:03:10 PM
Perhaps one could conclude they know what Zoopla are as well.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: LeeB on January 20, 2014, 08:30:08 PM
Well we know what they are now.

Nazis.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: johnny from donny on January 20, 2014, 10:12:12 PM
Well we know what they are now.

Nazis.

A tad harsh,perhaps?
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: danlanza on January 20, 2014, 10:20:06 PM
Well we know what they are now.

Nazis.

A tad harsh,perhaps?
Nazis never had beards like that one, never. Anelka is just a bit of a dickhead and he will have been told so by the club.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Rudy65 on January 20, 2014, 10:30:00 PM
I think this episode is being taken very seriously by the FA now.
Big trouble for the bloke with the upside down head.

As usual the Fa are quick to act. How long do they need?
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: danlanza on January 20, 2014, 10:32:37 PM
To long imo.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Somniloquism on January 20, 2014, 10:48:36 PM
TBF it is a hard one to judge on. The French government have their interpretation of it and although it has clearly been picked up by undesirables, (including the inventor of the gesture), it is still not an obvious racist / anti Semitic gesture. If they charge him over that I expect the "comedian" will be suing for defaming him. Also some of the French associate it with more of an anti establishment gesture (like sticking two fingers up).

So, as this is currently only a problem gesture in France, if they take it further where will it end? For example, would they charge an for Italian player thumbing his teeth at someone or a South American for making the OK gesture? (I'm starting to feel like an HSBC advert now)

I have my view on the gesture but I expect the most it will be will be two matches for making a political issue in a match. Did Fowler get banned or only fined for his shirt celebration?
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Des Little on January 20, 2014, 10:53:24 PM
Relegate the bastards!
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Ad@m on January 20, 2014, 11:02:07 PM
I think I agree with Ad@m here.  While sponsors should not be picking the team or the signings for commercial or profile purposes, they do have a right to withdraw their sponsorship in extraordinary circumstances like this.

Isn't that two seperate arguments, though?

From a quick glance, Adam seemed to suggest that Zoopla are in the right to put pressure on Albion not to play Anelka.

That's not the same thing as terminating their agreement (which, incidentally, they're not actually doing anyway), which one assumes they will have a right to do in the terms of the contract between them and Albion.

If Zoopla feel the have to put pressure on the stripeys not to play him, then that's what they'll do, I suspect, but they have to be prepared for the stripeys to tell them to do one.

They're not two separate arguments at all. Right from the off with this I've said Zoopla are well within their rights to expect the Boggies and their representatives to behave in a way which is not detrimental to Zoopla and if they don't they're also well within their right to cancel the contract as I expect there's a clause in it allowing them to.

Telling the Boggies the implications of them continuing to play a player who has made anti-Semitic gestures is part of that process - it's not Zoopla picking the team. It's giving the Boggies a choice - don't play him and you get our money or keep playing him and we walk away.

As it turns out it sounds like Zoopla were more interested in raising their profile than making a stand based on their principles.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: pauliewalnuts on January 20, 2014, 11:19:07 PM
They're not two separate arguments at all. Right from the off with this I've said Zoopla are well within their rights to expect the Boggies and their representatives to behave in a way which is not detrimental to Zoopla and if they don't they're also well within their right to cancel the contract as I expect there's a clause in it allowing them to.

Zoopla's right to protect their brand is one thing, Albion have a limit to their obligations to Zoopla.

I'm sure they'd point out that the Anelka thing will be dealt with by the FA, which I am sure it will be (if it hasn't already), and that they're not prepared to pick a team to suit their sponsors.

I'm sure the contract you referred to will delimit each party's obligations to the other, and I am pretty sure it won't include an ability for Zoopla to demand who does and does not play.

Like you said, Zoopla have shown it all to be an empty threat anyway.

They're making such a principled stand that they're not renewing their sponsorship, but they're happy to let it run till the end of the season. Some damage that must be doing to their brand.

This is a cause which they'd requested West Brom to take a hit over - ie not being able to play the sulky one - but it's so damaging to them, they're going to let it continue another five months.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Rudy65 on January 21, 2014, 08:08:48 AM
Free advertising for Zoopla!

A beat there are a few people including me who didnt know what they actually did, but do now
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Somniloquism on January 21, 2014, 09:36:16 AM
Free advertising for Zoopla!

A beat there are a few people including me who didnt know what they actually did, but do now

Yep, I didn't know they sponsored the baggies either.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on January 21, 2014, 09:42:29 AM
watched their game on Sky last night and noticed a few things:

For the period that Albion were behind, the ground was so quiet that you could actually hear the players talking to each other. Absolutely, genuinely silent at the Hawthorns. It was like watching a reserve game or something

Then they equalised, made some noise and within 1 minute of them scoring, they were singing Shit on The Villa. The first proper song they came out with after scoring was one about a team they weren't playing and about whom they reckon they're not bothered.

They'm obsessed.

And Gary Neville's a twat. Sorry, don't buy into this current Neville love in. Hated him as  player - really hated him - and I still do.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Clampy on January 21, 2014, 09:47:01 AM
I like the way they got genuinely excited when Mulumbu came on. It was if they'd just brought on Messi.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Dr Butler on January 21, 2014, 10:01:35 AM
I like the way they got genuinely excited when Mulumbu came on. It was if they'd just brought on Messi.

don't be silly....

Messi would never get in the West Barcelona Albion team..... I mean.......who would he replace in that talented free flowing side ?
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Somniloquism on January 21, 2014, 10:02:04 AM
Anelka charged with alleged racially aggravated offence. Instant 5 game ban if guilty but could be more if he fights it unsuccessfully. I don't know if Anelka missing is good or bad for the bagges.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on January 21, 2014, 10:38:57 AM
Thought he was one of their best players last night, so hope he's banned. Also hope Mulumbu doesn't start against us.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Damo70 on January 21, 2014, 10:41:05 AM
watched their game on Sky last night and noticed a few things:

For the period that Albion were behind, the ground was so quiet that you could actually hear the players talking to each other. Absolutely, genuinely silent at the Hawthorns. It was like watching a reserve game or something

Then they equalised, made some noise and within 1 minute of them scoring, they were singing Shit on The Villa. The first proper song they came out with after scoring was one about a team they weren't playing and about whom they reckon they're not bothered.

They'm obsessed.





And Gary Neville's a twat. Sorry, don't buy into this current Neville love in. Hated him as  player - really hated him - and I still do.



They sang it within a minute of the game starting as well.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: olaftab on January 21, 2014, 10:57:29 AM
I wonder if Zoopla will make them give back, or take their name off, that "We know what we are" banner?
Smart move by Zoopla owner. Don't get fooled by any ethical stand here. This is business and the move has resulted in huge publicity for his business. They have not withdrawn their sponsorship as is being reported on the media. The deal is coming to an end  in any case and Zoopla will not renew. 
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Clampy on January 21, 2014, 11:00:06 AM
Thought he was one of their best players last night, so hope he's banned. Also hope Mulumbu doesn't start against us.

I hope he does. I'm sorry but I can't see what's good about him, I think he's one of the most overated players in the Prem.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: FrankyH on January 21, 2014, 11:07:34 AM
watched their game on Sky last night and noticed a few things:

For the period that Albion were behind, the ground was so quiet that you could actually hear the players talking to each other. Absolutely, genuinely silent at the Hawthorns. It was like watching a reserve game or something

Then they equalised, made some noise and within 1 minute of them scoring, they were singing Shit on The Villa. The first proper song they came out with after scoring was one about a team they weren't playing and about whom they reckon they're not bothered.

They'm obsessed.

And Gary Neville's a twat. Sorry, don't buy into this current Neville love in. Hated him as  player - really hated him - and I still do.

I noticed how quiet it was.Ironic when you know the Bellends will sing like being in a church at Villa Park.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: andrew08 on January 21, 2014, 12:17:10 PM
Strange team they are. All the players are cast offs from other sides or on their last PL contract. Non will go to a better club. They are all strong, fit and a bit dirty...as their tradition dictates I guess. It's like they are doing anything just to stay in the league without an eye on future development. Can't blame them after decades of obscurity I suppose.

We have an opportunity to finish this silly little spell of them finishing above us when we play them next week. Lets go 5 points clear, with a proper battering, the demoralising impact of that will probably relelgate them.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: PGW on January 21, 2014, 12:21:10 PM
I was reading 'The Mirror' yesterday and it mentioned that Pepe Mel is also an author, thriller writer and has had a couple of books published in Spain, ''The Liar'' and ''The road to beyond''.
I did check on Amazon and they are on there but only in Spanish currently.

Apparently he is due to release a third book later on in the year, writing it during the summer.

How about him writing a diary of his struggles at Boggies trying to get transfer funds to strengthen his squad!!!

He could call it ''War with Peace''
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: OCD on January 21, 2014, 05:01:46 PM
An Albion mate was bemoaning how shit Ridgewell is and how he'll go forward but doesn't have the legs to get back. I tried not to laugh.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: LeeB on January 21, 2014, 06:32:48 PM
Well we know what they are now.

Nazis.

A tad harsh,perhaps?

It was a bit tongue in cheek.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Villa in Denmark on January 21, 2014, 07:45:58 PM
I was reading 'The Mirror' yesterday and it mentioned that Pepe Mel is also an author, thriller writer and has had a couple of books published in Spain, ''The Liar'' and ''The road to beyond''.
I did check on Amazon and they are on there but only in Spanish currently.

Apparently he is due to release a third book later on in the year, writing it during the summer.

How about him writing a diary of his struggles at Boggies trying to get transfer funds to strengthen his squad!!!

He could call it ''War with Peace''

Bloody hell with those titles he's better than Nostradamus.

"The Liar" - well delusionist would have been more apt for most boggies, but close enough.

"The Road To Beyond" again pretty close,but The Road To The Back Of Beyond" would have been better, or is that just a phrase my family used?
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Richard E on January 21, 2014, 10:05:26 PM
Judging by the plaudits in the Express and Star and from their supporters today for their Brazil 1970/Barca hybrid performance last night I must have inadvertently watched the wrong game on TV and seen some other team who play in stripes labouring turgidly.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Liam_Baggies on January 21, 2014, 10:43:16 PM
Well we know what they are now.

Nazis.

I enjoy the banter as much as anybody in football but I don't appreciate being called a Nazi.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Liam_Baggies on January 21, 2014, 10:47:18 PM
Regarding Zoopla:

I think they are quite classless in the way they are using this situation to gain some free publicity. The contract with their company is due to finish in the summer and wasn't going to be renewed anyway. Baring that in mind, they have used this as an opportunity to gain themselves some free publicity and their owner has covered it by the fact he is Jewish. He may well have been offended by Anelka's stupidty, but he has had the best part of a month to condemn Anelka and his actions and they have waited until the dust had settled to kick up a fuss.

Anelka deserves all that comes his way but the term has an ambigous meaning and I trust that the FA have made the right decision.

As for last night, it was an improvement on recent weeks. It was a good indicator of what Pepe Mel is looking to do here with regards to retaining possession and pressing the opposition further up the field. All of which is music to my ears.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: PeterWithe on January 22, 2014, 12:17:49 AM
An Albion mate was bemoaning how shit Ridgewell is and how he'll go forward but doesn't have the legs to get back. I tried not to laugh.

I though Ridgewell was pretty good last night, some very nice skills at times, my abiding memory of him from his time at VP was him clumsily booting the ball into his own net.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: PeterWithe on January 22, 2014, 12:20:49 AM
Regarding Zoopla:

I think they are quite classless in the way they are using this situation to gain some free publicity. The contract with their company is due to finish in the summer and wasn't going to be renewed anyway. Baring that in mind, they have used this as an opportunity to gain themselves some free publicity and their owner has covered it by the fact he is Jewish. He may well have been offended by Anelka's stupidty, but he has had the best part of a month to condemn Anelka and his actions and they have waited until the dust had settled to kick up a fuss.

Anelka deserves all that comes his way but the term has an ambigous meaning and I trust that the FA have made the right decision

If you chose to read the thread over the past few pages you'd see most agreeing with you on the Zoopla thing.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Matt C on January 22, 2014, 12:20:52 AM
My abiding memory is of him booting the ball into the Blose net at The Sty, bless him.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Damo70 on January 22, 2014, 10:21:52 AM
I was reading 'The Mirror' yesterday and it mentioned that Pepe Mel is also an author, thriller writer and has had a couple of books published in Spain, ''The Liar'' and ''The road to beyond''.
I did check on Amazon and they are on there but only in Spanish currently.

Apparently he is due to release a third book later on in the year, writing it during the summer.

How about him writing a diary of his struggles at Boggies trying to get transfer funds to strengthen his squad!!!

He could call it ''War with Peace''


The way they go through managers he will be gone before he has time to read a book let alone write one.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Somniloquism on January 22, 2014, 10:53:10 AM
Ridgewell seemed to be one of those players that would score 5 goals in a season but still be minus on GD through his tendency to score own goals / pens.

Wasn't there one match where he scored one but directly caused 2 goals against (2 pens I think)?
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Richard E on January 22, 2014, 10:55:35 AM
Well we know what they are now.

Nazis.

I enjoy the banter as much as anybody in football but I don't appreciate being called a Nazi.

Well for one I am quite happy to place on record that I don't think you are a Nazi, Liam. You seem like a decent bloke. Very poor showing from your Club however not to have said anything stronger about this than that the gesture will not be repeated.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on January 22, 2014, 11:42:04 AM
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Very poor showing from your Club however not to have said anything stronger about this than that the gesture will not be repeated

I was at White Hart Lane in 1996(?) when Bosnich did his famous full on Nazi salute to the Spurs fans. Don't think he was even banned was he? and I can't remember what Villa's official response to his salute was
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Richard E on January 22, 2014, 11:48:04 AM
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Very poor showing from your Club however not to have said anything stronger about this than that the gesture will not be repeated

I was at White Hart Lane in 1996(?) when Bosnich did his famous full on Nazi salute to the Spurs fans. Don't think he was even banned was he? and I can't remember what Villa's official response to his salute was

That was before the internet (sort of) so we didn't all spend all day analysing these things to the nth degree. I can't remember either but I think to be fair Bosnich's actions were a bad taste "joke" whereas Anelka's was a conscious gesture to make a point in the knowledge the game was being shown live on French TV. (And Bosnich is Villa and Anelka is Albion!)
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Richard E on January 22, 2014, 11:52:52 AM
My abiding memory is of him booting the ball into the Blose net at The Sty, bless him.

That and his nearly a penalty a game handball habit.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Somniloquism on January 22, 2014, 01:15:58 PM
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Very poor showing from your Club however not to have said anything stronger about this than that the gesture will not be repeated

I was at White Hart Lane in 1996(?) when Bosnich did his famous full on Nazi salute to the Spurs fans. Don't think he was even banned was he? and I can't remember what Villa's official response to his salute was

Well judging by his later years he was probably off his head on charlie at the time and the club probably did not want to pull attention to this.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: OCD on January 22, 2014, 05:24:13 PM
Ridgewell seemed to be one of those players that would score 5 goals in a season but still be minus on GD through his tendency to score own goals / pens.

Wasn't there one match where he scored one but directly caused 2 goals against (2 pens I think)?

Newcastle away, wasn't it?
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Liam_Baggies on January 22, 2014, 05:35:29 PM
If you chose to read the thread over the past few pages you'd see most agreeing with you on the Zoopla thing.

I know they were. I was just giving my point of view from an Albion perspective.

Well for one I am quite happy to place on record that I don't think you are a Nazi, Liam. You seem like a decent bloke. Very poor showing from your Club however not to have said anything stronger about this than that the gesture will not be repeated.

I think the club have always been mindful to not comment on the situation whilst investigation proceedings have been going ahead - despite Zoopla and Kick It Out doing the exact opposite. With Anelka looking to appeal the decision (by his own accord and not through the club), I would imagine we will wait yet again to give him a fair hearing (which he is entitled too) before making any decisions/comment regarding his future.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Ad@m on January 22, 2014, 05:47:22 PM
If you chose to read the thread over the past few pages you'd see most agreeing with you on the Zoopla thing.

I know they were. I was just giving my point of view from an Albion perspective.

Well for one I am quite happy to place on record that I don't think you are a Nazi, Liam. You seem like a decent bloke. Very poor showing from your Club however not to have said anything stronger about this than that the gesture will not be repeated.

I think the club have always been mindful to not comment on the situation whilst investigation proceedings have been going ahead - despite Zoopla and Kick It Out doing the exact opposite. With Anelka looking to appeal the decision (by his own accord and not through the club), I would imagine we will wait yet again to give him a fair hearing (which he is entitled too) before making any decisions/comment regarding his future.

But surely, given such a serious allegation it would've been appropriate to not play him until it was resolved?
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Liam_Baggies on January 22, 2014, 06:13:26 PM
But surely, given such a serious allegation it would've been appropriate to not play him until it was resolved?

I don't see what difference playing him makes?

He's a footballer for West Bromwich Albion, he's on our pay-roll, why wouldn't we play him?
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Ad@m on January 22, 2014, 06:18:31 PM
But surely, given such a serious allegation it would've been appropriate to not play him until it was resolved?

I don't see what difference playing him makes?

He's on our pay-roll, taking a substantial wage, why wouldn't we play him?

Because like anyone in a high profile job, if you're accused of something that serious, standard procedure is to suspend the individual on full pay pending an investigation.  From the club's perspective it prevents accusations that they implicitly approve of what he did. 

He's a high profile representative of your club and is accused of making anti-Semitic gestures - in some people's eyes him being picked to play would indicate the Olbiyun are happy to be represented by people who hold such views.

I'm pretty sure that in previous disciplinary cases the FA have given credit where clubs have suspended players whilst the FA investigation has been undertaken and have reduced any ban by the number of games missed whilst under suspension by the club.

It's just the proper thing to do.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Chris Smith on January 22, 2014, 06:24:45 PM
Not playing him would be tantamount to saying he is already proven guilty, so it is fair enough that they continue to pick him and allow due process.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: cheltenhamlion on January 22, 2014, 06:36:25 PM
They are quite right not to have selection policies dictated by sponsors. I do wonder how I would like Villa to react if it was one of ours though.

A brief suspension well the FA do their shit seems right.

Hell, even Ferguson infested Man Ure have been known to strike first on disciplinary issues.

Specifically in their own interests of course but, just like Zoopla, you can spin these things.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Ad@m on January 22, 2014, 06:44:09 PM
Not playing him would be tantamount to saying he is already proven guilty, so it is fair enough that they continue to pick him and allow due process.

No it's not.  It's saying that while the shit's hitting the fan they're keeping him out of the firing line (public statement) and keeping the club's nose clean from any collateral damage (internal view).

It's standard practice.

If the FA ban him now I'm sure there will be accusations thrown at the Boggies that they should've done something about it sooner and asking why they didn't even bother investigating, choosing to just carry on as normal.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: danlanza on January 22, 2014, 06:48:57 PM
Does anybody know the history of this so called anti Jew salute ?
Is it just something that this French so called comedian has devised inside his own head and therefore, because of his apparent beliefs about Jews has become an anti Jewish action or does it have real history?. Just asking.
This is quenelle as far as i see it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quenelle
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Somniloquism on January 22, 2014, 07:01:45 PM
It is just what you said. A very suspect person who makes lots of jokes about Jews and the holocaust started to make this gesture. It then gets taken up by people who think he is funny and wouldn't it be funnier to perform this at Aushwitz or where Jews were gunned down or outside synagogues. After all it isn't a Nazi salute which is definitely against the law in France.

I would be interested in why he started this salute and how it fitted into the act though. Was he making jokes about the government stopping this type of gesture but there is no rules about that one and covered his arse by saying wouldn't that put one up the government if we went around doing that?
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Liam_Baggies on January 22, 2014, 07:07:51 PM
Because like anyone in a high profile job, if you're accused of something that serious, standard procedure is to suspend the individual on full pay pending an investigation.  From the club's perspective it prevents accusations that they implicitly approve of what he did. 

He's a high profile representative of your club and is accused of making anti-Semitic gestures - in some people's eyes him being picked to play would indicate the Olbiyun are happy to be represented by people who hold such views.

I'm pretty sure that in previous disciplinary cases the FA have given credit where clubs have suspended players whilst the FA investigation has been undertaken and have reduced any ban by the number of games missed whilst under suspension by the club.

It's just the proper thing to do.

Football is a complete different business, it isn't normal - what clubs wish to do with their employees is entirely up to them but I was happy that we used Nicolas Anelka. I'm pretty sure Luis Suarez, Patrice Evra, John Terry and Anton Ferdinand all competed in football match during an investigation. Afterall, Anelka is paid by ourselves to play football.

The club are not happy with this saga at all and they do not condone his political actions - despite Anelka having informed them that his gesture was anti-establishment and not anti semitic. However, what they have allowed is for Nicolas Anelka to have a fair hearing without jumping to conclusions like so many have done. Anelka wishes to appeal and during that time shall be available for selection until we're told otherwise. The club will carry out it's own enquiry once the FA have finished with Anelka. After his appeal his heard, then is the appropriate time for the club to make a decision.

I've done research on the Quenelle and I'm still unsure of it's actual meaning due to it's ambiguity so good luck to the people making the decision.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: danlanza on January 22, 2014, 07:16:23 PM
Because like anyone in a high profile job, if you're accused of something that serious, standard procedure is to suspend the individual on full pay pending an investigation.  From the club's perspective it prevents accusations that they implicitly approve of what he did. 

He's a high profile representative of your club and is accused of making anti-Semitic gestures - in some people's eyes him being picked to play would indicate the Olbiyun are happy to be represented by people who hold such views.

I'm pretty sure that in previous disciplinary cases the FA have given credit where clubs have suspended players whilst the FA investigation has been undertaken and have reduced any ban by the number of games missed whilst under suspension by the club.

It's just the proper thing to do.

Football is a complete different business, it isn't normal - what clubs wish to do with their employees is entirely up to them but I was happy that we used Nicolas Anelka. I'm pretty sure Luis Suarez, Patrice Evra, John Terry and Anton Ferdinand all competed in football match during an investigation. Afterall, Anelka is paid by ourselves to play football.

The club are not happy with this saga at all and they do not condone his political actions - despite Anelka having informed them that his gesture was anti-establishment and not anti semitic. However, what they have allowed is for Nicolas Anelka to have a fair hearing without jumping to conclusions like so many have done. Anelka wishes to appeal and during that time shall be available for selection until we're told otherwise. The club will carry out it's own enquiry once the FA have finished with Anelka. After his appeal his heard, then is the appropriate time for the club to make a decision.

I've done research on the Quenelle and I'm still unsure of it's actual meaning due to it's ambiguity so good luck to the people making the decision.
Looks nice on Wiki. Very tasty.
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Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on January 22, 2014, 07:22:24 PM
Because like anyone in a high profile job, if you're accused of something that serious, standard procedure is to suspend the individual on full pay pending an investigation.  From the club's perspective it prevents accusations that they implicitly approve of what he did. 

He's a high profile representative of your club and is accused of making anti-Semitic gestures - in some people's eyes him being picked to play would indicate the Olbiyun are happy to be represented by people who hold such views.

I'm pretty sure that in previous disciplinary cases the FA have given credit where clubs have suspended players whilst the FA investigation has been undertaken and have reduced any ban by the number of games missed whilst under suspension by the club.

It's just the proper thing to do.

Football is a complete different business, it isn't normal - what clubs wish to do with their employees is entirely up to them but I was happy that we used Nicolas Anelka. I'm pretty sure Luis Suarez, Patrice Evra, John Terry and Anton Ferdinand all competed in football match during an investigation. Afterall, Anelka is paid by ourselves to play football.

The club are not happy with this saga at all and they do not condone his political actions - despite Anelka having informed them that his gesture was anti-establishment and not anti semitic. However, what they have allowed is for Nicolas Anelka to have a fair hearing without jumping to conclusions like so many have done. Anelka wishes to appeal and during that time shall be available for selection until we're told otherwise. The club will carry out it's own enquiry once the FA have finished with Anelka. After his appeal his heard, then is the appropriate time for the club to make a decision.

I've done research on the Quenelle and I'm still unsure of it's actual meaning due to it's ambiguity so good luck to the people making the decision.
Looks nice on Wiki. Very tasty.
Stick it on a crusty cob.
Lovely!

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Post by: Somniloquism on January 22, 2014, 07:42:58 PM
I've done research on the Quenelle and I'm still unsure of it's actual meaning due to it's ambiguity so good luck to the people making the decision.

I think at best you could argue it is a political gesture which is still frowned upon on a football field and can lead to heavy fines / bans. At worst it is what he is charged with. When you look at the person who invented it, and what he has come out with, you can see he is quite vile. When you see how the gesture has been used, you can see it is quite vile. Anelka, unlike most people in England at the time, would know all about this "misuse" of the gesture but still decided to do it. He would know better then anyone that people are being arrested and charged in France. He would know that other footballers have done this and been forced to apologise? Yet he did it during a match live on TV over here and in France. I don't believe he meant it as an overtly Anti Semitic gesture but did mean it as "support" but not once in 20 odd days has he apologised for any offence it might have caused, (Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the Albion statement said he has agreed not to do it again and he only said it was support for a friend.)
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Post by: The Man With A Stick on January 22, 2014, 11:11:13 PM
Wouldn't surprise me if Anelka's just done all this to wangle his way out of a life of never-ending glamour in Smethwick and get a move to some other gullible club (and the big, fat signing-on fee that goes with it) in the summer.  He's not exactly "Mr. Testimonial" now, is he.
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Post by: pauliewalnuts on January 22, 2014, 11:15:23 PM
It's standard practice.

Not in football it isn't.
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Post by: Louzie0 on January 22, 2014, 11:24:09 PM
Why on earth would anybody do this?


Unless you can reply, 'total joie de vivre' and f all to do with solidarity with anybody, it is completely suspect.
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Post by: Ad@m on January 22, 2014, 11:44:00 PM
It's standard practice.

Not in football it isn't.

I can't think of a direct comparison in football so not sure how you can say that.  Ben Thatcher was suspended by Man City while the FA investigated after he tried to kill Pedro Mendes.  Like I say, not a direct comparison but precedent for a club doing what would happen in the real world.
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Post by: Monty on January 23, 2014, 11:37:20 AM
I think Bad English on the Baggies prediction thread has put the issue to bed. It's disgraceful of Anelka to have done this - it reminds me of old fashioned, anti-Semitic black nationalist chauvinism which was often linked to radical Islam. Case in point - that old phrase of Louis Farrakhan's in America, that 'remember Jews, when God puts you in the ovens it's forever'.
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Post by: ADVILLAFAN on January 23, 2014, 12:48:44 PM
The thing that really annoys me about it is that Anelka seems to refuse to admit that he's done anything wrong and seems to be looking down his nose at the FA.
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Post by: Ad@m on January 23, 2014, 01:40:33 PM
Well come on, he has found one Jewish guy in France who think's it's ok.

Surely that's case closed?!?!?
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Post by: Meanwood Villa on January 23, 2014, 01:45:07 PM
This may have been said before but his justification that he was "supporting a friend" doesn't wash when you see who the friend is. Could a player get away with a racist slogan on a t-shirt and say "I'm just good mates with Nick Griffin is all"

This is my own quote from the "Fu-quenelle" thread. Just to reiterate I can't see how Anelka has a leg to stand on other than total ignorance as to his "friend's" political beliefs. If you score a goal in the Premier League you are going to be recorded on camera. If you then decide to make any sort of political statement this is going to be noticed and magnified because of the circumstances. If you make a gesture that has anti-semitic connotations, well what exactly do you expect to happen? People to laugh? He's a moron and deserves everything he gets.
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Post by: Monty on January 23, 2014, 01:46:36 PM
This may have been said before but his justification that he was "supporting a friend" doesn't wash when you see who the friend is. Could a player get away with a racist slogan on a t-shirt and say "I'm just good mates with Nick Griffin is all"

This is my own quote from the "Fu-quenelle" thread. Just to reiterate I can't see how Anelka has a leg to stand on other than total ignorance as to his "friend's" political beliefs. If you score a goal in the Premier League you are going to be recorded on camera. If you then decide to make any sort of political statement this is going to be noticed and magnified because of the circumstances. If you make a gesture that has anti-semetic connotations, well what exactly do you expect to happen? People to laugh? He's a moron and deserves everything he gets.

Have to say, I did laugh, but what else can you do when you see something as relentlessly stupid as Anelka?
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Post by: Ads on January 23, 2014, 01:50:00 PM
The images on that site Bad English linked are very disappointing to say the least. What is wrong with people?

The bloke needs banning and re-educating.
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Post by: Witton Warrior on January 23, 2014, 04:58:27 PM
It is all so typically "French" and post-modern isn't it?
All this retro-style reversed Nazi salute shit and hiding behind free-speech while actually doing the very thing you claim to despise (oppressing someone)

The gesture reminds me of the ex-Nazi scientist in Dr Strangelove when he has to hold his arm down as he emits strangled cries of "Der Fuhrer" "For zer Reich" etc...
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Post by: Meanwood Villa on February 08, 2014, 07:24:54 PM
Bottom 3. Come on people, always look on the bright side of life etc
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Post by: Witton Warrior on February 10, 2014, 09:30:37 PM
Have you noticed how we are shit but they are unlucky?
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Post by: Villa in Denmark on February 10, 2014, 11:17:10 PM
Have you noticed how we are shit but they are unlucky?

Well balanced over there. Chips on both shoulders.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 10, 2014, 11:20:04 PM
Worth repeating. 8 wins in their last 44 league games. We know what they are.
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Post by: Damo70 on February 11, 2014, 07:50:44 AM
They were going to win the Premier League until November when in consecutive games they encountered a Villa ref and then a Villa team. We should promise them that if they stay up we will give them a proper chance to beat us by giving them a three goal start in both games next season.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on February 12, 2014, 12:42:40 PM
They really think the entire world revolves around them.

http://www.waste of paper.co.uk/news/midlands-news/west-brom-fans-angry-after-6699707
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Post by: cdbullyweefan on February 12, 2014, 04:45:50 PM
In fairness, it can be a pain getting to The Hawthorns on a match day. You always get stuck behind all the horses and carts.
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Post by: LeeB on February 12, 2014, 04:48:36 PM
In fairness, it can be a pain getting to The Hawthorns on a match day. You always get stuck behind all the horses and carts.

Better off taking the iron horse.
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Post by: Richard E on February 12, 2014, 05:01:12 PM
Worth repeating. 8 wins in their last 44 league games. We know what they are.

Yeah but if you include all the moral victories and the times they were robbed by the ref because it ay fair then it comes to 43 wins in their last 44 league games.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 12, 2014, 08:18:15 PM
8 wins in 45. Updating just because it's funny. 
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Post by: dave.woodhall on February 12, 2014, 10:44:19 PM
In fairness, it can be a pain getting to The Hawthorns on a match day. You always get stuck behind all the horses and carts.

Better off taking the iron horse.

Try driving past there when there's a match on. They don't park, they abandon - they put cars on central reservations, traffic islands, dual carriageways. Anywhere you can get four wheels they stick their cars, then once every couple of years traffic wardens do their job and the Express & Star is full of complaints.
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Post by: Des Little on February 12, 2014, 10:52:51 PM
They must have the easiest run in of any team in the bottom half. If they manage to get relegated from here they'll only have themselves to blame.
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Post by: pauliewalnuts on February 12, 2014, 11:29:41 PM
They must have the easiest run in of any team in the bottom half. If they manage to get relegated from here they'll only have themselves to blame.

Well, that and the unrelenting unfairness of life, obviously.

Irray fair etc etc
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Post by: Witton Warrior on February 13, 2014, 01:09:10 PM
Our resident Baggie was radiant with joy yesterday - spoiled it a bit by complaining they should have had a penalty - I told him to write to somebody about it.

Not half as amusing as the manure fan opposite though. He doesn't know what to do with himself; it's like watching a penguin in zero gravity...
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Post by: ADVILLAFAN on February 13, 2014, 01:13:53 PM
If Everton had played and beaten Palace, they would have been 6 points clear of Manure.    ;D
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Post by: Richard E on February 13, 2014, 07:13:34 PM
Our resident Baggie was radiant with joy yesterday - spoiled it a bit by complaining they should have had a penalty - I told him to write to somebody about it.

Not half as amusing as the manure fan opposite though. He doesn't know what to do with himself; it's like watching a penguin in zero gravity...

Has there ever been a game in recorded history where Albion shouldn't have had a penalty?
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 13, 2014, 09:06:32 PM
Have they ever conceded a penalty that should have been one?
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Post by: dave.woodhall on February 13, 2014, 09:24:44 PM
Have they ever had a player who wasn't scrupulously fair?
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Post by: Richard E on February 13, 2014, 09:31:46 PM
Smug Albion twunt who rang up WM tonight wound me up no end. Apparently we are welcome to James Morrison (gee thanks) because the Villa players aren't good enough to make him look good. Have you seen where your own team are in the table, pal? One win in how many is it now, fifteen? And what were the results of our two games this season?
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 13, 2014, 09:49:06 PM
1 win in 17, including the cup.
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Post by: Damo70 on February 14, 2014, 10:19:50 AM
Smug Albion twunt who rang up WM tonight wound me up no end. Apparently we are welcome to James Morrison (gee thanks) because the Villa players aren't good enough to make him look good. Have you seen where your own team are in the table, pal? One win in how many is it now, fifteen? And what were the results of our two games this season?

They are the same as the noses. Whatever trouble they are in they still find time to worry about us. It's quite sweet really bless them.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on February 17, 2014, 01:07:00 AM
I've just read an article which began:

"For a land thousands of miles away, Argentina has played a big part in the Albion story."

Let no-one say they're up themselves. Oh no.
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Post by: Monty on February 17, 2014, 01:08:13 AM
"A land thousands of miles away." Like it's fucking Narnia.
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Post by: Ad@m on February 17, 2014, 12:55:11 PM
"A land thousands of miles away." Like it's fucking Narnia.

To be fair, most of their view of themselves could be called make believe!
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Post by: Monty on February 17, 2014, 12:56:12 PM
They do challenge CS Lewis in the self-delusion stakes.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on February 17, 2014, 01:01:46 PM
One bit-part player, one manager who couldn't get away quick enough, an opponent in a UEFA Cup tie and they're twinned with Buenos Aires.
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Post by: Richard E on February 17, 2014, 01:04:22 PM
In view of Lugano's performances this season Uruguay is, for a land thousands of miles away,obviously trying to play a big part in the Albion relegation story.
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Post by: Damo70 on February 17, 2014, 01:06:35 PM
One bit-part player, one manager who couldn't get away quick enough, an opponent in a UEFA Cup tie and they're twinned with Buenos Aires.

Did their chairman ever get round to going down the motorway and blowing up all of Alan Sugar's computers?
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Post by: Chico Hamilton III on February 17, 2014, 01:19:20 PM
One bit-part player, one manager who couldn't get away quick enough, an opponent in a UEFA Cup tie and they're twinned with Buenos Aires.

Oh yeah, Albion and Argentina go back a long way. What about Willie Johnstone getting deported from there in 1978. That wor his fault either, the doctor told him they were vitamin tablets.
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Post by: cheltenhamlion on February 17, 2014, 07:02:49 PM
I thought it was just me. When did they become the Oldbury branch of Buenos Aires? Fucking hell fire. I despair of them. The two bit bunch of fucktards.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 17, 2014, 09:23:15 PM
Apart from Ardiles I can't think of any other connection to Argentina. And he was only there a year. So he got them promoted from Division 3, whoopee, it was hardly the start of something.
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Post by: Damo70 on February 18, 2014, 12:08:50 PM
They will tell you that Ardiles had them playing great football. But seeing as they reckon they have always played great football I'm not sure why they mention that season in particular.
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Post by: LeeB on February 18, 2014, 07:57:17 PM
They will tell you that Ardiles had them playing great football. But seeing as they reckon they have always played great football I'm not sure why they mention that season in particular.

Brian Talbot's free flowing side were a joy to behold.
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Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on February 18, 2014, 08:35:22 PM
They will tell you that Ardiles had them playing great football. But seeing as they reckon they have always played great football I'm not sure why they mention that season in particular.

Brian Talbot's free flowing side were a joy to behold.
That'll be down to his Argentinian roots!
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Post by: Damo70 on February 19, 2014, 11:26:45 AM
They will tell you that Ardiles had them playing great football. But seeing as they reckon they have always played great football I'm not sure why they mention that season in particular.

Brian Talbot's free flowing side were a joy to behold.
That'll be down to his Argentinian roots!

I believe Bobby Gould, Alan Buckley and Denis Smith all took their coaching badges in Argentina.
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Post by: cheltenhamlion on February 19, 2014, 06:40:03 PM
Was this before the loveable scamps started taking coffins to games (Gould)?
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Post by: dave.woodhall on February 20, 2014, 04:19:11 AM
No matter who you support, the first half of this is spot on. http://thebirminghampress.com/2014/02/not-even-second-best/
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Post by: ADVILLAFAN on February 20, 2014, 08:59:52 AM
No matter who you support, the first half of this is spot on. http://thebirminghampress.com/2014/02/not-even-second-best/

Which leads to the reality currently facing Baggies fans. Namely, the possibility of ‘enjoying’
Championship (division two) football next season unless Pepe Mel can install a sense of belief and purpose they we can avoid the drop.

Has this bit been edited for my amusement?
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Post by: cheltenhamlion on February 21, 2014, 06:58:29 PM
As a slight aside, me and work Stripy knocked heads again this week.

A corporate do with lawyers that represent us and hang the expenses. I would have happily fucking hung him.

We had our verbal fisticuffs away from the important people but it was fun.

For Woodhall - I got so irritable and animated that Black Country Ozz would have struggled to come up with a view on them as extreme as I did.

He did not like it one bit. Because most was true. And the rest was like asking a victim of Hiroshima why they were opposed to nuclear weapons.
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Post by: Toronto Villa on February 26, 2014, 01:08:02 AM
Oh dear...

Quote
Mel losing grip at Hawthorns as Baggies players revolt over boss' methods

Pepe Mel under pressure amid growing tension behind the scenes

Baggies have failed to win in six matches and are one point above drop zone
Owner Jeremy Peace is understood to be unhappy with current situation
May follow Fulham's lead and make second managerial change of season
Players unhappy with Mel's tactics of playing a high speed, pressing game
Disquiet about the role of technical director David McDonough at the club


By NEIL MOXLEY

PUBLISHED: 23:00 GMT, 25 February 2014 | UPDATED: 23:00 GMT, 25 February 2014

Pepe Mel’s grip on his job at West Bromwich Albion is loosening amid chaos and growing tension behind the scenes at the Hawthorns.
Mel, 50, has failed to win in six matches, taking four points from as many home games, but owner Jeremy Peace is understood to be unhappy with the situation and may even follow Fulham’s lead and make a second managerial switch if matters do not improve quickly.
West Brom are just one point above the relegation zone following an horrific run since November of just one victory in 15 matches.

They returned early from a break in Jerez last week and there has already been one clear-the-air meeting between Mel, the coaching staff and the players, with former caretaker Keith Downing acting as the go-between.
The first team are unhappy at Mel’s insistence on playing a pressing game, high up the field.
Centre-halves Gareth McAuley and Jonas Olsson are not the quickest and they fear they will be exposed by these tactics.
The players favour a return to Roy Hodgson’s methods which led to their highest Premier League finish, of eighth, two seasons ago.
Their view has been communicated to Mel and a new blueprint is reportedly being discussed this week.
However, there is also disquiet about David McDonough’s role as director of technical performance.
The Spanish-speaker was a prime mover in the appointment of Mel, a team-mate of Benitez in the Real Madrid youth team.

McDonough was understood to have been among those present when Steve Clarke was sacked in December, a fact that did not sit comfortably with several members of the backroom team. West Brom’s sporting and technical director Richard Garlick is also new to his role but McDonough appears to have usurped him too, carving out a niche for himself within the club that has not been well received.

Crucially, however, the former Liverpool employee does appear to have the backing of the club’s owner, Peace. With all of these issues swirling around the training ground, West Brom have also taken the decision to restructure their scouting department.

However, the manner of the changes left a nasty taste in the mouths of staff with former midfielder Bobby Hope, the chief scout, and head of European recruitment Tony Spearing both in the line of fire, along with chief scout Stuart White. West Brom insisted on Tuesday that Mel’s position was under no immediate threat. They added that McDonough had reverted to his original role as head of analysis and was undertaking no duties on the training field with regard to the first team.

The club also confirmed that several positions were being re-designated among their recruitment staff but insisted that the end of Hope’s employment was amicable. The Scot has given 26 years’ service to West Brom as a player and, latterly, as a scout. West Brom have long been championed as a club that punches above their weight but the loss of former technical and sporting director Dan Ashworth to the FA, plus a succession of poor decisions in the transfer market, have contributed to the current position. With Manchester United their next opponents at the Hawthorns on March 8, it may well be that Mel’s problems worsen, inflaming an already combustible situation, before they get better.
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Post by: *shellac* on February 26, 2014, 03:21:31 AM
Is that a preview of his new novel?
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Post by: damon loves JT on February 26, 2014, 02:41:31 PM
If they sack him, how many managers will they have had this season? I'm afraid I'm losing count
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Post by: Damo70 on February 26, 2014, 02:50:19 PM
None. They have head coaches. It is the model all clubs should follow apparently. Unless your sporting director leaves and then your head of scouting and your new sporting director tread on each others toes. And if your new, foreign (again the model all clubs should follow) head coach fails to win a game.
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Post by: Meanwood Villa on February 26, 2014, 02:52:39 PM
Couple of issues with that article. Firstly, it's one win in 17 (18 including cup game) Secondly they finished 8th last season under Steve Clarke, 2 seasons ago under Woy they finished 10th. Other than that great journalism.

EDIT - I do hope he's right about the chaos though
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Post by: damon loves JT on February 26, 2014, 02:55:24 PM
It certainly seems like a blueprint for success. I'm sure Pat Murphy would agree.
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Post by: Dr Butler on February 26, 2014, 02:58:58 PM
with all our on going problems down the Villa...you can always rely on Small Heath and Sandwell's finest to cheer me up ! :)
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Post by: Richard E on February 26, 2014, 03:02:17 PM
Yeah but how many of our players would get in their team? (c) Radio WM every week for the last 100 years.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on February 26, 2014, 03:08:46 PM
Terry's Take on it.  http://thebirminghampress.com/2014/02/more-questions-than-answers/
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on February 26, 2014, 03:24:03 PM
Shambles. We've gone from being a well run club, a blue print for many into a complete and utter shambles within twelve months.

I actually don't know where to start to critique. The playing squad have been abject really since November 2012. Their performance since then have stunk of players who are living in comfortable street which ended up getting Steve Clarke the sack. They then continued their flat, dire performances under Downing and Kiely and now having been worked extremely hard by Pepe Mel in recent weeks they're having another moan - and according to some quarters, wanting their mates Kiely and Downing re-appointed. I honestly believe that our players are suffering with delusions of grandeur and the sooner Pepe can be given the tools to rebuild the better. He was shockingly backed by the club upon his arrival - the failure to add one of his additional coaches and the fact we didn't do any strengthening in January apart from an inexperienced kid to join the other inexperienced kids.

The news about McDonough is also worrying as it appears that a couple of our scouts who were so instrumental under Ashworth in finding gems are likely to be removed. In-fact, one of them appears to have expressed his discontent about summer business in which their views where ignored which is sheer ludicrous given their success rate.

If we can muddle to the end of the season in the PL I'll be surprised - having said that, a relegation might be a good thing for us. A chance to remove some of the more comfortable, spineless arseholes and allow Pepe to transform the squad.

Having said that, if we go down, I reckon Pepe will be off anyhow.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 26, 2014, 03:27:38 PM
A blue print for who exactly? All you did was try and copy Swansea.
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on February 26, 2014, 03:33:57 PM
A blue print for who exactly? All you did was try and copy Swansea.

Clubs that struggle to compete with other clubs financially.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 26, 2014, 03:41:28 PM
Oh dear. Manage to stay up for 3 years and suddenly you are the blueprint for every other small club in the top flight.
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Post by: TheSandman on February 26, 2014, 03:44:35 PM
I actually don't know where to start to critique. The playing squad have been abject really since November 2012. Their performance since then have stunk of players who are living in comfortable street which ended up getting Steve Clarke the sack. They then continued their flat, dire performances under Downing and Kiely and now having been worked extremely hard by Pepe Mel in recent weeks they're having another moan - and according to some quarters, wanting their mates Kiely and Downing re-appointed. I honestly believe that our players are suffering with delusions of grandeur and the sooner Pepe can be given the tools to rebuild the better. He was shockingly backed by the club upon his arrival - the failure to add one of his additional coaches and the fact we didn't do any strengthening in January apart from an inexperienced kid to join the other inexperienced kids.

The situation with your players seems very much like how we were in our season under Houllier. Difference is that in that year we brought in Darren Bent in January to save us and had enough quality in other areas of the pitch to pick up a bit.

That said, if they are complaining about the tactics I can't help but thinking they have a point. If you have slow, plodding centre halves you can't play the way West Brom have been of late.
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on February 26, 2014, 04:34:08 PM
That said, if they are complaining about the tactics I can't help but thinking they have a point. If you have slow, plodding centre halves you can't play the way West Brom have been of late.

I don't think we've been as high up the pitch as people would have you believe. Granted, we're not defending our 6 yard box anymore but we're not exactly playing on the half way line either. I would have much more sympathy for their concerns had we been playing well when we reverted to our negative, soul-less, rigid, mind numbing hoof-ball, but we weren't. We were still a side in decline so the players moaning about a new approach doesn't really wash with me.
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Post by: Witton Warrior on February 26, 2014, 05:35:10 PM
I share the office with a Baggie and a Red Manc - their wee sad faces put it all in perspective - tremendous rant about Peace and then Anelka followed by a death threat against Moyes this morning. I just chipped in with "well we are trying to organise positive talks with the club so we all pull together"...
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Post by: dave.woodhall on February 26, 2014, 07:58:51 PM
A blue print for who exactly? All you did was try and copy Swansea.

Clubs that struggle to compete with other clubs financially.

Said it some time ago, but one thing the Albion had in their favour was that they didn't mind the occasional relegation as it was one step back to go two forward. Now they're established in the Premier League and want to stay there. 
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Post by: The Man With A Stick on February 26, 2014, 08:23:26 PM
"A land thousands of miles away." Like it's fucking Narnia.

Argentina also copied their kit.
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on February 26, 2014, 08:52:40 PM
Said it some time ago, but one thing the Albion had in their favour was that they didn't mind the occasional relegation as it was one step back to go two forward. Now they're established in the Premier League and want to stay there.

Agree with that and I think we may be at a similar cross road.

We have too many players who have gone stale and another group of players who are too comfortable with their environment. They also need moving on.

Regardless of what happens between now and the end of the season, there is going to be a squad evolution regardless with many loans going back and players entering the final year of their contract.

The only ones I'm fussed about keeping at the moment are Ben Foster, Billy Jones, Gareth McAuley, Claudio Yacob and the vastly improved Chris Brunt. The rest can bugger off for all I care.
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Post by: SheffieldVillain on February 26, 2014, 09:13:03 PM
Said it some time ago, but one thing the Albion had in their favour was that they didn't mind the occasional relegation as it was one step back to go two forward. Now they're established in the Premier League and want to stay there.

Agree with that and I think we may be at a similar cross road.

We have too many players who have gone stale and another group of players who are too comfortable with their environment. They also need moving on.

Regardless of what happens between now and the end of the season, there is going to be a squad evolution regardless with many loans going back and players entering the final year of their contract.

The only ones I'm fussed about keeping at the moment are Ben Foster, Billy Jones, Gareth McAuley, Claudio Yacob and the vastly improved Chris Brunt. The rest can bugger off for all I care.

What about that young striker that's scored a few this year? Berahino? Do you not rate him?
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on February 26, 2014, 09:21:14 PM
Forgot about him if truth be told.

He started the season off well but is still very raw. The cynic in me would believe that his performances have decreased since he got his new contract but I would imagine it would be hard for any 21 year old to play football with this group seen as they're utterly incapable of doing anything remotely positive with the round thing.

I like Berahino, I think he can have a good career but there is still plenty of progression ahead of him. I hope he doesn't let his new deal give him delusions of grandeur which is possible with many young players nowadays who receive too much too soon.
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Post by: SoccerHQ on February 26, 2014, 10:13:23 PM
His main problem early doors was playing Lugango imo just because he spoke Spanish so the message from Mel could get to the pitch quicker. He cost you goals against us and Everton.

I think aswell when you were 2 up against us you needed to kill the game right there and then as we're pretty bobbins at home so without the quick Weimann goal back we wouldn't have won that. Big Sam did when West Ham went 2 up.

Mel seems a decent bloke and credit for attempting his broken English but it just looks the wrong appointment now. I think you'll go tbh. On 25 points, you've still got Arsenal and Man. City away which will be defeats and Man. United and Spurs at home which could well be aswell. So that could leave you with just 7 games to win 4 and draw 1 or 2, I think that will be beyond you. You've also got Stoke last day who you never beat at home and they could well need something to stay up so that looks like a draw to me, Odemwingie maybe with a crucial goal....

Can't say I'll be gutted as I still remember last season. Inbetween narrowly losing at Man. City 1 nil and coming back from 5-2 to draw 5 all with Man United, you lost at home to Wigan after leading twice and lost 4 nil at Norwich who were on a 15 match winless streak or something. Two teams of course we were battling relegation against. Karma is lovely sometimes isn't it? ;)
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on February 27, 2014, 09:27:47 PM
Hopefully our un-rest in the boardroom has been solved now Dave McDonough has left the club.

His influence was growing day by day, ignored trusted scouts who have proved to be first class in the work they do, secondly he was interfering in Richard Garlick's role - our summer signings of Anichebe, Lugano, Anelka and Sessegnon were lead by McDonough and none of them have proved to be out and out successes - infact, Ashworth looked at Lugano and decided against him after seeing his general decline. McDonough's presence on the training ground was also increasing (something beyond his remit) and he even attempted to give a half time team talk against Newcastle.

Thankfully, we've made the right decision in removing him and that should ease the players tensions and allow Garlick and our scouts to continue the good work they've done over the last few years. There looks like there might be more maneuvering but I'd like to think both Stuart White and Tony Spearing will be allowed to carry on in their respective roles.
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Post by: Louzie0 on February 28, 2014, 01:06:19 AM
Hope you are happy from now on.

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Post by: Dr Butler on February 28, 2014, 09:43:15 AM
Hope you are happy from now on.



;)
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Post by: Damo70 on February 28, 2014, 09:52:40 AM
Hopefully our un-rest in the boardroom has been solved now Dave McDonough has left the club.

His influence was growing day by day, ignored trusted scouts who have proved to be first class in the work they do, secondly he was interfering in Richard Garlick's role - our summer signings of Anichebe, Lugano, Anelka and Sessegnon were lead by McDonough and none of them have proved to be out and out successes - infact, Ashworth looked at Lugano and decided against him after seeing his general decline. McDonough's presence on the training ground was also increasing (something beyond his remit) and he even attempted to give a half time team talk against Newcastle.

Thankfully, we've made the right decision in removing him and that should ease the players tensions and allow Garlick and our scouts to continue the good work they've done over the last few years. There looks like there might be more maneuvering but I'd like to think both Stuart White and Tony Spearing will be allowed to carry on in their respective roles.

In defence of Lugano I have seen worse. Mind you I think that was when you played George Reilly at centre half against us nearly thirty years ago.
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Post by: Richard E on February 28, 2014, 09:54:21 AM
Hope you are happy from now on.



I'm sure they are polishing up their "the Championship's more fun than the Greed League" excuses even as we speak.
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Post by: Damo70 on February 28, 2014, 09:58:25 AM
Time to throw away the 'Pride Of The Midlands' scarves and dig out the old 'Pride Of The Black Country' ones.
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Post by: ADVILLAFAN on February 28, 2014, 10:11:03 AM
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I'm sure they are polishing up their "the Championship's more fun than the Greed League" excuses even as we speak.

I've certainly tried to convince myself that it'd be more fun in the Championship than the Greed League over the last few seasons....
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Post by: SoccerHQ on February 28, 2014, 10:16:27 AM
I'm not sure they'd come straight back up this time. In previous seasons they've pretty much accepted they'll go straight back down  from the prem.

Now suddenly they've been comfortable in the prem for a few seasons and their squad reflects this, plenty of players over or around 30 so they'd need to overhaul it a bit to be challenging for promotion if they do go down this season.
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on March 01, 2014, 01:26:36 PM
In defence of Lugano I have seen worse. Mind you I think that was when you played George Reilly at centre half against us nearly thirty years ago.

I wasn't born 30 years ago so I can't comment thankfully  ;D
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Post by: olaftab on March 01, 2014, 01:29:56 PM
That's a shame as you have missed the very best of Albion under big Ron and it's unlikely that will ever happen again.
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on March 01, 2014, 06:48:35 PM
That's a shame as you have missed the very best of Albion under big Ron and it's unlikely that will ever happen again.

I agree - and when I talk about football with people much older than myself I feel slightly jealous that they could see a team with such flamboyance and style. I'd do anything to have been able to see Bomber, Astle, Cantello, Regis, Cunningham and Willie Johnston etc.

Instead, I've been brought up on Jason Koumas, Zoltan Gera and Peter Odemwingie. None of whom are fit to lace their boots.
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Post by: damon loves JT on March 04, 2014, 02:36:42 PM
That's a shame as you have missed the very best of Albion under big Ron and it's unlikely that will ever happen again.

I agree - and when I talk about football with people much older than myself I feel slightly jealous that they could see a team with such flamboyance and style. I'd do anything to have been able to see Bomber, Astle, Cantello, Regis, Cunningham and Willie Johnston etc.

Instead, I've been brought up on Jason Koumas, Zoltan Gera and Peter Odemwingie. None of whom are fit to lace their boots.

They can scarcely lace their own. Odemwingie would drive to Loftus Road with his shoes undone to see if somebody there would do it for him.
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Post by: Richard E on March 07, 2014, 08:58:10 AM
Dilemma tomorrow with the Baggies playing Man United and B-lose playing QPR because I want all 4 of them to lose and that isn't possible.
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Post by: ADVILLAFAN on March 07, 2014, 09:43:01 AM
Dilemma tomorrow with the Baggies playing Man United and B-lose playing QPR because I want all 4 of them to lose and that isn't possible.

And Chelski and Spurzz on Saturday. I try to think of it as at least one of the bastards is going to drop points in each of the games.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on March 08, 2014, 05:45:49 PM
"They wow sack im Franksy. They gorra corporate dinna with im in too wiks."
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Post by: saunders_heroes on March 08, 2014, 06:41:51 PM
Christ, Albion have only won 4 league games all season!
They deserve relegation just for that. Like Small Heath before them they have really outstayed their welcome in the Premier League
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Post by: damon loves JT on March 08, 2014, 08:45:49 PM
I'm amazed they've managed to win four.
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Post by: Toronto Villa on March 08, 2014, 09:07:50 PM
we did our best to give them 6 wins this season and even then we pegged it with 4 points out 6.
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Post by: Fin Feds Dad on March 08, 2014, 09:17:34 PM
Next 4 fixtures for stripeys : Swansea (a) , Hull (a), Cardiff (h) , Norwich (a)

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Post by: SoccerHQ on March 08, 2014, 09:24:25 PM
Not looking good for them is it?

 

They have 25 points with just 4 home games left. One of those is v Stoke who I believe they last won at home in the 80s or something, another is v Spurs.

 

So they're going to need an away win or two in the run in from 6 left, two of those are v Arsenal and Man. City so realistically 2 from 4 games.

 

What could still save them is Palace probably having an even tougher run in and Norwich just being rubbish, think Norwich v West Brom is in two weeks. I think the loser of that game will go down tbh.

 

I said at the time they have a really poor transfer window.

 

A mid table team can't replace Lukaku who provided 17 league goals with a semi retired player in Anelka or Anchiebe who doesn't score much either. Suddenly the tight games they were winning 1-0 last season they're drawing or losing.

 

In the last 6 months they've lost Lukaku, Odemwingie and Long who on average during a season would provide 30 goals. Anelka, Anchiebe and Sessgnon provide 10 goals.

 

BTW this should be a lesson for us post Benteke and thinking we can replace him with another striker from league 1 or whatever.

 

That and potting Steve Clarke who I think would've got more points against the bottom half teams e.g beating Fulham at home last week.

 

They might aswell have keep Downing as caretaker until the end of the season as he picked up 6 points from 5 games so a decent ratio.

 

Can't say my heart bleeds, I still remember them losing to Norwich and Wigan at the back end of last season when we were still in major trouble. Don't you just love how football has that horrible way of eventually turning? :)
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Post by: Damo70 on March 08, 2014, 10:02:36 PM
The problem with giving up when you have reached your holy grail of forty points and having a bit of a laugh by gifting games to the relegation rivals of the club you hate is that it isn't easy to switch the form back on the following season. Mind you, they would have won the league this year if it wasn't for that Villa supporting ref that robbed them at Chelsea.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 08, 2014, 11:48:42 PM
8 wins in 45. Updating just because it's funny. 

8 wins in 47 league games. 4 league wins all season. 1 league win in their last 18. It doesn't stop being funny.
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Post by: Damo70 on March 08, 2014, 11:53:53 PM
8 wins in 45. Updating just because it's funny. 

8 wins in 47 league games. 4 league wins all season. 1 league win in their last 18. It doesn't stop being funny.

Even putting relegation aside, surely 8 wins in 47 league games means you can be removed from the Premier league for lack of competitiveness or not trying or something like that?
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Post by: Clampy on March 09, 2014, 09:45:55 AM
I watched their game yesterday and other than Anichibe, they were rubbish. Where I watched it is about 5 minutes drive from the Hawthorns and most of the lads who went were back with 10 minutes to go, it was all very amusing. Trying to keep a straight face was hard work.
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on March 09, 2014, 11:11:31 AM
8 wins in 47 league games. 4 league wins all season. 1 league win in their last 18. It doesn't stop being funny.

I've tried to stay away from the facts because they make grim reading but that is depressing.

I wish Warwickshire could play cricket all year round!   ;D
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Post by: paul_e on March 09, 2014, 01:54:33 PM
That 1 win in 18 stat is really bad, that's similar to the McLeish collapse we had but we started it later and with a few more points on the board (our record was 2 in 19 for the second half of the season).

As others have said the match between west brom and norwich looks a bit like a relegation play off to me, even if it is in mid march.
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Post by: Witton Warrior on March 09, 2014, 05:20:21 PM
All I heard at Stourbridge yesterday was how bad "we" am - the "we" being Albion.
Not too keen on Pepe the Clown methinks...
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Post by: peter w on March 09, 2014, 10:05:05 PM
Shows what we could become without Benteke.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on March 09, 2014, 10:08:09 PM
All I heard at Stourbridge yesterday was how bad "we" am - the "we" being Albion.
Not too keen on Pepe the Clown methinks...

Got back quickly didn't they?
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on March 09, 2014, 10:49:36 PM
All I heard at Stourbridge yesterday was how bad "we" am - the "we" being Albion.
Not too keen on Pepe the Clown methinks...

We're in quite an unusual situation where the head coach is receiving more support than the players.

In-fact, many who are heading to Swansea on Saturday are taking Spanish flags with others also having the intentions of supporting Pepe Mel rather than these arrogant bunch of ******* - myself included.

Steven Reid actions towards him was the final straw for me.
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Post by: aj2k77 on March 10, 2014, 08:52:32 AM
Going down with Fulham, we know what you am.
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Post by: paul_e on March 10, 2014, 10:39:30 AM
Shows what we could become without Benteke.

3 differences for me:

1. Our 'replacement' is probably Kozak who has shown he can be effective in the premier league but probably needs more service than Benteke.  They had Long as the replacement and they decided to sell him, and even then he's a very hot and cold striker.

2. When Benteke leaves we'll have a lot of money to show for it, Lukaku leaving left them with nothing, if we use that money to address the service to Kozak then we'll be in a better place than we could be.

3. Our squad is a hell of a lot younger with room to improve, a lot of the baggies players are old enough that they've achieved everything they're going to so the motivation is questionable (as Liam suggests above).

I get the point of saying we need to be careful but the circumstances are very different.
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Post by: ADVILLAFAN on March 10, 2014, 10:44:14 AM
Manure beating them was a good result for us, but I couldn't bring myself to watch it. There's no way I wouldn't have ended up supporting the Baggies against the forces of darkness.
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Post by: Meanwood Villa on March 10, 2014, 12:44:35 PM
I really think Mel is going to turn out to be one of those "remember him?" appointments, like Christian Gross or something. I can see them not winning any games under him before they put him out of his misery.
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Post by: Damo70 on March 10, 2014, 04:07:03 PM
I really think Mel is going to turn out to be one of those "remember him?" appointments, like Christian Gross or something. I can see them not winning any games under him before they put him out of his misery.

He should do a Christian Gross and at his next press conference proudly show his Metro ticket as a badge of honour/man of the people.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on March 10, 2014, 04:09:14 PM
Shows what we could become without Benteke.

3 differences for me:

1. Our 'replacement' is probably Kozak who has shown he can be effective in the premier league but probably needs more service than Benteke.  They had Long as the replacement and they decided to sell him, and even then he's a very hot and cold striker.

2. When Benteke leaves we'll have a lot of money to show for it, Lukaku leaving left them with nothing, if we use that money to address the service to Kozak then we'll be in a better place than we could be.

3. Our squad is a hell of a lot younger with room to improve, a lot of the baggies players are old enough that they've achieved everything they're going to so the motivation is questionable (as Liam suggests above).

I get the point of saying we need to be careful but the circumstances are very different.

As someone on here said, if you loan your players you loan your league place.
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Post by: Chico Hamilton III on March 11, 2014, 09:30:10 AM
I really think Mel is going to turn out to be one of those "remember him?" appointments, like Christian Gross or something. I can see them not winning any games under him before they put him out of his misery.

He should do a Christian Gross and at his next press conference proudly show his Metro ticket as a badge of honour/man of the people.

Or one of those old WMPTE day tripper tickets where you have to scratch off the date.
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Post by: Damo70 on March 11, 2014, 09:50:28 AM
I hope he takes it day by day and doesn't waste his money on a Travelcard.
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Post by: damon loves JT on March 12, 2014, 02:23:49 PM
I hope he doesn't buy any green bananas.
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Post by: spangley1812 on March 14, 2014, 05:54:35 PM
Anelka has terminated his contract @ the Tesco Bags.............
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on March 14, 2014, 06:16:44 PM
Good. He's not wanted here.

Terminating his contract before the club finalises its internal investigation. Methinks he knew what was coming..
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Post by: Ad@m on March 14, 2014, 06:22:54 PM
Good. He's not wanted here.

Terminating his contract before the club finalises its internal investigation. Methinks he knew what was coming..

Still, should two months really have passed without the club dishing out any punishment whatsoever to a racist employee?
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on March 14, 2014, 07:32:20 PM
Good. He's not wanted here.

Terminating his contract before the club finalises its internal investigation. Methinks he knew what was coming..

Still, should two months really have passed without the club dishing out any punishment whatsoever to a racist employee?

So the club should have gone above the FA's investigation?

We waited for the FA's response - we received it, we then waited for Anelka's appeal and once he was found guilty by the independent panel, he was suspended by the club so they could make their own inquiry on the evidence that was heard in the previous panel meetings with the FA, as well as evidence from other sources. Anelka has now saved us the trouble of having to fine/sack him.
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Post by: Villa in Denmark on March 14, 2014, 08:19:18 PM
Good. He's not wanted here.

Terminating his contract before the club finalises its internal investigation. Methinks he knew what was coming..

Still, should two months really have passed without the club dishing out any punishment whatsoever to a racist employee?

I would have thought they handled it almost by the book.  The only thing you could question was the point at which he was formally suspended pending investigation. 

Anyone that goes for summary dismissal is only heading in one direction and that's a tribunal to find out how much compo you're going to cough up.
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Post by: The Left Side on March 14, 2014, 08:21:29 PM
How much was he on at the olbiyun, I think he has only scored once or twice but I could be wrong? One of the Nostradamus' on here predicted it would happen!
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Post by: dave.woodhall on March 21, 2014, 05:16:11 PM
This Jeff Astle thing puzzles me. What exactly is it that they want? http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2014/03/19/fa-says-sorry-to-widow-of-west-bromwich-albion-legend-jeff-astle/
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Post by: Richard E on March 21, 2014, 05:35:44 PM
This Jeff Astle thing puzzles me. What exactly is it that they want? http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2014/03/19/fa-says-sorry-to-widow-of-west-bromwich-albion-legend-jeff-astle/

The FA to have had psychic powers 45 years ago? FIFA to go back in time and ban headers in the 60s? Ban headers now?
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Post by: cheltenhamlion on March 21, 2014, 07:55:29 PM
I think his missus wants answers but not to questions she has ever thought to ask, and doesn't want to cause too much of a scene.

It is certainly how it scanned the other day.
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Post by: Clampy on March 21, 2014, 08:58:59 PM
They seem to want the F.A to acknowledge after all this time that heading a leather ball on numerous occasions back in the day caused his death. The coroner has already told them how he died, why would they feel the need for the F.A to confirm it?
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Post by: peter w on March 21, 2014, 09:27:19 PM
Where there's blame there's a claim.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on March 21, 2014, 10:26:28 PM
Where there's blame there's a claim.

I really don't think they're after compensation, not least because who do you claim against - the clubs he played for? The FA? FIFA?
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Post by: joe_c on March 22, 2014, 12:03:05 AM
Where there's blame there's a claim.

I really don't think they're after compensation, not least because who do you claim against - the clubs he played for? The FA? FIFA?

Frank Skinner.
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Post by: Witton Warrior on March 22, 2014, 04:38:42 PM
They seem to want the F.A to acknowledge after all this time that heading a leather ball on numerous occasions back in the day caused his death. The coroner has already told them how he died, why would they feel the need for the F.A to confirm it?

The FA promised to have an investigation and produce some form of report which they have notably failed to do.
Seems a daft thing to promise and a dafter thing to forget...
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Post by: dave.woodhall on March 23, 2014, 10:57:15 AM
It just ay fare.

http://www.waste of paper.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/shane-longs-wife-slams-horrible-6865695
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Post by: Pete3206 on March 23, 2014, 12:05:26 PM
It just ay fare.

http://www.waste of paper.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/shane-longs-wife-slams-horrible-6865695

"We reported earlier how fans in fancy dress were reported to have confronted the striker after the match."

What a site that must have been.
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Post by: Damo70 on March 23, 2014, 12:08:54 PM
They were wearing safari suits. I had a vision of him being verbally abused by Christopher Biggins and Don Estelle.
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on March 23, 2014, 12:18:15 PM
This Jeff Astle thing puzzles me. What exactly is it that they want? http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2014/03/19/fa-says-sorry-to-widow-of-west-bromwich-albion-legend-jeff-astle/

See the above post from Witton Warrior.

As for the poster that mentioned compensation - the family have stated that is something they do not want.

The way they have been treated by the FA, however, is a complete farce. Completely embarrassing from them.
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Post by: Nev on March 23, 2014, 01:08:06 PM
They were wearing safari suits. I had a vision of him being verbally abused by Christopher Biggins and Don Estelle.

Fuck that, how about Reginald Bosenquet?
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Post by: damon loves JT on March 23, 2014, 01:25:51 PM
David Attenborough and Martin Bell
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Post by: Witton Warrior on March 23, 2014, 01:45:35 PM
Roger Moore

And was it really "fancy dress" or their usual 70's throwback "style"
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Post by: Damo70 on March 23, 2014, 08:00:39 PM
They were wearing safari suits. I had a vision of him being verbally abused by Christopher Biggins and Don Estelle.

Fuck that, how about Reginald Bosenquet?

I will see your Reginald Bosenquet and raise you a Steve Austin era Lee Majors.
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Post by: Clampy on March 23, 2014, 08:06:47 PM
This Jeff Astle thing puzzles me. What exactly is it that they want? http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2014/03/19/fa-says-sorry-to-widow-of-west-bromwich-albion-legend-jeff-astle/

See the above post from Witton Warrior.

As for the poster that mentioned compensation - the family have stated that is something they do not want.

The way they have been treated by the FA, however, is a complete farce. Completely embarrassing from them.

But it's common knowledge how he died. Why do they need to F.A to acknowledge it?
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Post by: dave.woodhall on March 23, 2014, 08:18:07 PM
This Jeff Astle thing puzzles me. What exactly is it that they want? http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2014/03/19/fa-says-sorry-to-widow-of-west-bromwich-albion-legend-jeff-astle/

See the above post from Witton Warrior.

As for the poster that mentioned compensation - the family have stated that is something they do not want.

The way they have been treated by the FA, however, is a complete farce. Completely embarrassing from them.

What do they want the FA to do? And this sort of thing hardly helps. http://www.waste of paper.co.uk/news/midlands-news/jeff-astles-daughter-blasts-match-6866351
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Post by: Clampy on March 23, 2014, 10:28:54 PM
The thing is they're asking for 'justice'. Justice normally means you want someone to be held accountable for something so in this case who? I blame Gary Lineker.
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on March 24, 2014, 06:14:54 PM
But it's common knowledge how he died. Why do they need to F.A to acknowledge it?

The FA promised the family a report within ten years of his death.

12 years later the family still haven't received one.

That is why, I believe, they're kicking up a fuss.

What is so hard to understand?
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Post by: Ad@m on March 24, 2014, 06:17:55 PM
But it's common knowledge how he died. Why do they need to F.A to acknowledge it?

The FA promised the family a report within ten years of his death.

12 years later the family still haven't received one.

That is why, I believe, they're kicking up a fuss.

What is so hard to understand?

Whilst the FA probably shouldn't have promised a report is it really still necessary given there's no controversy around why he died?  What do the family expect to get from the report that isn't already known?
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on March 24, 2014, 07:19:00 PM
Whilst the FA probably shouldn't have promised a report is it really still necessary given there's no controversy around why he died?  What do the family expect to get from the report that isn't already known?

I don't quite know the ins and outs of the report but I would imagine a lot would come down to the FA's lack of care. I guess it would also involve other cases of footballers who have suffered industrial disease from heading those rock hard balls as they were back then. It's hard to comment on the foundations of the report without speaking to the family.

If we take out the football and rivalry element, if you've been promised a report as to how your dad died then in my opinion you're fully entitled too it.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on March 24, 2014, 07:50:41 PM
Again, how can it be the FA's lack of care given that they weren't his employees and they aren't the game's governing body?
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on March 24, 2014, 07:56:54 PM
Again, how can it be the FA's lack of care given that they weren't his employees and they aren't the game's governing body?

I was being hypothetical. I don't know what is involved in the report and was merely using that as an example of what could be included.
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Post by: Louzie0 on March 24, 2014, 08:12:43 PM
If the FA promised a report then they are severely wanting, here.

I don't blame the family for holding the FA to what they said they would do. Everything else is just razamatazz.

Second guess all you like, but they have a duty of care towards footballers and they said they would investigate and then report.  Then they didn't. 

Whatever the reason ( FA and individual clubs having to pay out for retrospective generations of injuries and compensation? Surely not) if they said they would do it...

I think the families should carry on and the FA should gulp and go ahead. Then let's work out how to pay it all. Because Football is really poor.


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Post by: paul_e on March 25, 2014, 09:29:30 AM
Surely information from elsewhere has provided everything the FA report could.  All it can say, in real terms, is that footballs were pretty hard in the past and repeatedly heading one may cause problems.

If the family genuinely don't want any compensation then what are they actually expecting?  If the same balls were still in use then there would be a point to persisting with this but that's clearly not the case.  On top of that the handling on head trauma in sport has changed significantly in the last few years so even in a broader sense there's nothing that would be implemented to make the game safer as a result of this.

The FA should just say that all the information is already available and the changes to the equipment that any report would lead to naturally occurred years ago, there's nothing more to say.
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Post by: curiousorange on March 25, 2014, 10:18:47 AM
I don't want to sound out of line here, but how come it's only Jeff Astle that has had his death linked to heading footballs? Surely there were others that put themselves in harm's way in this regard?
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Post by: dave shelley on March 25, 2014, 12:11:25 PM
Indeed, wasn't the death of our own Peter Aldis attributed to heading hard, leather football's in some way?
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Post by: dave.woodhall on March 25, 2014, 12:17:34 PM
Indeed, wasn't the death of our own Peter Aldis attributed to heading hard, leather football's in some way?

The number of players from the immediate post-war era who have suffered from Alzheimer's or similar ailments is scarily high. Our FA Cup winning squad has several fatalities - Johnny Dixon, Peter Aldis, Stan Lynn, Pat Saward, and Vic Crowe have all died from the illness. 
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Post by: Chico Hamilton III on March 25, 2014, 12:40:28 PM
Isn't there something similar(ish) going on in American football at the moment where former players are bringing legal action against the authorities for hundreds of millions in compensation as a result of brain injuries sustained by them during their careers?

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Post by: ADVILLAFAN on March 25, 2014, 12:46:42 PM
Isn't there something similar(ish) going on in American football at the moment where former players are bringing legal action against the authorities for hundreds of millions in compensation as a result of brain injuries sustained by them during their careers?



There are a lot of concussions in the NFL and that may well lead to problems in later life. A bit like boxers who fight for too long and end up being 'punch drunk'. Former player Junior Seau committed suicide by shooting him self through the chest, so that his brain could be examined afterwards.
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Post by: cdbullyweefan on March 25, 2014, 12:53:22 PM
He shot himself through the chest but left no suicide note.

It was Dave Duerson who shot himself through the chest after sending a text to his family requesting that his brain be investigated.
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Post by: Somniloquism on March 25, 2014, 01:44:16 PM
The argument there is because the NFL provided helmets and padding, the tackling was then rougher with lots of helmet to helmet contact (starting to sound like a Lemon party). This year the NFL have tried to stop that by introducing rules penalising if there is a deliberate contact like that.

As for the FA issue, I would have said that with the lighter balls, the issue might have gone away, however the best manager in the world has stated that the ball can still kill someone if it hits them in the head so now I'm not sure.

But seriously, if the FA promised a review and then didn't, I can see why the family is upset, however, whether that equates asking for "justice" like the 96 campaign seems weird.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on March 25, 2014, 01:46:37 PM
I'm no legal expert but I can't see any way in which a body can be sued after someone voluntarily played a game in which the dangers weren't then known.
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Post by: Concrete John on March 25, 2014, 01:53:20 PM
I'm no legal expert but I can't see any way in which a body can be sued after someone voluntarily played a game in which the dangers weren't then known.

An argument that makes sense, but doesn't stand the test of law as in the whole asbestos saga.
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Post by: Damo70 on March 25, 2014, 02:40:33 PM
The argument there is because the NFL provided helmets and padding, the tackling was then rougher with lots of helmet to helmet contact (starting to sound like a Lemon party). This year the NFL have tried to stop that by introducing rules penalising if there is a deliberate contact like that.

As for the FA issue, I would have said that with the lighter balls, the issue might have gone away, however the best manager in the world has stated that the ball can still kill someone if it hits them in the head so now I'm not sure.

But seriously, if the FA promised a review and then didn't, I can see why the family is upset, however, whether that equates asking for "justice" like the 96 campaign seems weird.

It is amazing what you learn on H&V. Although I could have taken a decent guess I had to look up Lemon Party. By doing that I also learned about Tubgirl and Goatse. Thankfully only through written descriptions so I have been spared three unwanted visual images.
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Post by: LeeB on March 25, 2014, 03:51:42 PM
We're West Bromwich Albion, we want an apology.
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on March 25, 2014, 07:43:28 PM
I don't want to sound out of line here, but how come it's only Jeff Astle that has had his death linked to heading footballs? Surely there were others that put themselves in harm's way in this regard?

I'm pretty sure the names of other people who had died or suffered illnesses as a result of heading those leather balls was also going to be included in the report.
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Post by: cheltenhamlion on March 25, 2014, 07:44:06 PM
Let me take this back to petty nonsense in a moment. However, it seems they want a report because they were promised a report. Not for compensation, not to know how he died, not for some wider future campaign.

What do we want? A report. When do we want it? Now. Why? Fucked if I know.

The pragmatist in me is all for the ills of the world to be righted. I just need to understand what it will achieve.

Anyhow, we require, as per the banners, Justice for Jeff. What justice if you don't want anything out of it? It makes a mockery of the proper justice campaign from the Hillsborough families.

Nah, this isn't about justice, or changing something for the better. It is about those sad fuckers doing ill conceived, moral grandstanding yet a fucking gain.

They clap for a minute for Jeff. They clap for a minute for Mel P. They clap for a minute for Chelsea and how many they scored past us once.

In fact they spend 89 minutes of each game on their fucking feet clapping spurious things but lose the use of their legs and arms for the one minute we clap our cancer stricken captain.

Sanctimonious, holier than thou, small time, tinpot sacks of fucking shit. Always have been, always will be. I know what they fucking are alright.

And no, I haven't cheered up since Sunday. 
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Post by: dave.woodhall on March 25, 2014, 10:02:23 PM
I don't want to sound out of line here, but how come it's only Jeff Astle that has had his death linked to heading footballs? Surely there were others that put themselves in harm's way in this regard?

I'm pretty sure the names of other people who had died or suffered illnesses as a result of heading those leather balls was also going to be included in the report.

How can you tell who died through playing and who just developed it?
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Post by: curiousorange on March 25, 2014, 10:18:36 PM
I don't want to sound out of line here, but how come it's only Jeff Astle that has had his death linked to heading footballs? Surely there were others that put themselves in harm's way in this regard?

I'm pretty sure the names of other people who had died or suffered illnesses as a result of heading those leather balls was also going to be included in the report.

How can you tell who died through playing and who just developed it?

I can't speak of what I don't know, but if it was as simple as prolonged exposure to heading footballs, then wouldn't it be one of the leading causes of death among footballers from the pre-modern era? I doubt it helped, but the coroner's verdict on Jeff Astle and a hasty promise by the FA promised to open a can of worms on something that surely can't be quantified accurately.
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Post by: damon loves JT on March 26, 2014, 01:03:30 PM
I've met a number of people campaigning for 'the truth' about this or that who claimed that they weren't interested in a compensation payout. But people do change their minds.

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Post by: astonvillan on March 29, 2014, 12:38:09 PM
Football Focus have just done a bit of a feature on them. Hilarious moment where they went third in the league at Sunderland in 2012 and Steve Clarke's shown applauding the supporters up in the gods. Third in the league and just 600 fans there to see it. 600 fans..! Pride of the Midlands.
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on March 29, 2014, 07:35:59 PM
Football Focus have just done a bit of a feature on them. Hilarious moment where they went third in the league at Sunderland in 2012 and Steve Clarke's shown applauding the supporters up in the gods. Third in the league and just 600 fans there to see it. 600 fans..! Pride of the Midlands.

One of the best days ever following Albion.

I was up at 4 in the morning for that and witnessed one of the best Albion performances I've seen.

Could have done with the bottle we showed that day today.
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Post by: Ad@m on March 29, 2014, 07:40:44 PM
Never mind Liam - the Olbiyun's ability to chuck a win away having scored to go in front in the 94th minute has cheered a lot of people up today!!!
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on March 29, 2014, 07:53:38 PM
Never mind Liam - the Olbiyun's ability to chuck a win away having scored to go in front in the 94th minute has cheered a lot of people up today!!!

There must be delight in the suburbs of Witton and Stafford.  ;D

I meanwhile feel like I've had my balls electrocuted which is what I wouldn't mind doing to a few of our players at the moment!
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Post by: Des Little on March 29, 2014, 09:30:01 PM
I think today's results leave Sandwell, Naaarwich and Mackems ( yes I know they didn't play) as the three fighting it out for survival.
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Post by: Damo70 on March 30, 2014, 12:43:06 AM
I think today's results leave Sandwell, Naaarwich and Mackems ( yes I know they didn't play) as the three fighting it out for survival.

I think that the run in Norwich have and the amount of points Sunderland are behind (even allowing for their games in hand) means it is probably between those two.
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Post by: Meanwood Villa on March 31, 2014, 01:28:21 PM
The Albion are going. They won't win again all season.
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Post by: Bren'd on March 31, 2014, 01:50:27 PM
They'll scrape enough draws to keep them safe.  Saturday they're at Norwich.  If they don't lose that I think they'll be alright.
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Post by: ADVILLAFAN on March 31, 2014, 03:20:09 PM
Norwich tend to be okay at home and rubbish away.

Was glad that the Baggies didn't lose to Cardiff on Saturday, panicked when Merson screamed "GOOOOAAALLL", only for it to be them going 3-2 up. Wasn't worried about Cardiff drawing level again, they need wins rather than draws to finish above us.
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Post by: Villan For Life on April 01, 2014, 08:41:45 AM
According to today's Sun, there were punches flying in the dressing room after the Cardiff game.
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Post by: FranzBiberkopf on April 01, 2014, 12:21:51 PM
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According to today's Sun, there were punches flying in the dressing room after the Cardiff game.

I see they've gone for the "it shows the players care" line of defence.

Chortle, chortle.
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Post by: damon loves JT on April 01, 2014, 12:29:17 PM
Even if they stay up, looks like they all hate each other.
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Post by: Villa in Denmark on April 01, 2014, 12:42:21 PM
Even if they stay up, looks like they all hate each other.

Sounds reasonable.  Someone's got to give a shit about them one way or another.  If no one else can be bothered, seems only fair they do the job themselves.
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Post by: Des Little on April 01, 2014, 06:35:53 PM
They hate each other? They know what they are
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Post by: The Man With A Stick on April 01, 2014, 07:36:33 PM
Have they all started saying how life's better in the Championship yet?  When they pipe up with that nonsense, you know they're in trouble.
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Post by: Richard E on April 01, 2014, 09:05:32 PM
Have they all started saying how life's better in the Championship yet?  When they pipe up with that nonsense, you know they're in trouble.
No they're waiting until they're in League One, that's when following your team really starts to become enjoyable, just ask Keeprighton.
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Post by: Villa in Denmark on April 01, 2014, 09:35:41 PM
Apparently someone twated Berahino as it was his mistake that led to the last minute equaliser.

Anyone want to bet against it being Jonas Olsson - Someone who should have appeared in the faces that need hitting thread.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 01, 2014, 09:38:01 PM
Olsson will just claim he was stamped on.
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Post by: Villa in Denmark on April 01, 2014, 09:40:32 PM
He bloody well should be.  Preferably by an odious shit who knows how to do it properly.

Finally something worthwhile for Joey Barton to do.
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Post by: Somniloquism on April 01, 2014, 09:40:45 PM
Olsson will just claim he was stamped on.
And the manager will agree even after seeing a replay.
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Post by: Villan For Life on April 02, 2014, 04:36:56 PM
Turns out it was James Morrison who twatted Berahino and poor little Saido wants to sue him as he's not happy at the lack of support he's had from the club.

Handbags at 50 paces (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26857805)

Dressing room unrest ain't gonna help their team spirit in the middle of a relegation fight!!
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Post by: ADVILLAFAN on April 02, 2014, 04:46:00 PM
Time for us to offer 50p and a packet of crisps for Berahino, to take him off their hands?

Wasn't he from somewhere like Newtown anyway?
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Post by: Damo70 on April 02, 2014, 04:49:41 PM
That is a bit different from last summer when they were going to buy Benteke and Weimann. Luckily for us Anelka and Anichebe became available.
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on April 02, 2014, 05:06:45 PM
Laughable.

This highlights why we are where we are. Arrogant, egosticial individuals who think they are better than they are. Berahino has an attitude problem and it is hardly surprising that someone has eventually turned around and twatted him.
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Post by: Richard E on April 02, 2014, 05:10:48 PM
Laughable.

This highlights why we are where we are. Arrogant, egosticial individuals who think they are better than they are. Berahino has an attitude problem and it is hardly surprising that someone has eventually turned around and twatted him.

Is Berahino actually all that anyway? I know he scored at Old Trafford but (Villa aside) that's not that much of an achievement these days. He doesn't seem to start for you very often, which seems to suggest your management aren't convinced he is the Second Coming.
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on April 02, 2014, 05:29:35 PM
Laughable.

This highlights why we are where we are. Arrogant, egosticial individuals who think they are better than they are. Berahino has an attitude problem and it is hardly surprising that someone has eventually turned around and twatted him.

Is Berahino actually all that anyway? I know he scored at Old Trafford but (Villa aside) that's not that much of an achievement these days. He doesn't seem to start for you very often, which seems to suggest your management aren't convinced he is the Second Coming.

He had a very, very good start to the season. There was some national journalists tipping him as an outside bet for the World Cup! (LOL).

Ignoring that, he started the season well and was a breath of fresh air. He had something different and he knew where the back of the net was. Unsurprisingly, he signed his new contract and has since offered absolutely nothing. What made him such a talent when he first popped onto the scene has now suddenly disappeared. There are concerns regarding his weight which was supported by comments made by Steve Clarke's son on Twitter the other night. He had to be brought down a peg or two by Mulumbu in the summer as his attitude then was getting on some of the senior players nerves so the fact he was belted at the weekend comes as no surprise

Berahino can forge a good career for himself if he drops the attitude, sorts his weight and gets back to doing what he is supposed to do without the veiled threats of legal action. Unfortunately, like many young players in this country, they receive too much too early and don't progress how they should do. Shame really.
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Post by: paulcomben on April 02, 2014, 08:43:48 PM
Odemwhingie on SSN saying that the Baggies dressing room has the worst atmosphere he has ever known in football.
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Post by: cdbullyweefan on April 02, 2014, 09:05:30 PM
Laughable.

This highlights why we are where we are. Arrogant, egosticial individuals who think they are better than they are. Berahino has an attitude problem and it is hardly surprising that someone has eventually turned around and twatted him.

Seems a bit harsh to blame Berahino without knowing exactly what the circumstances are. Surely in a situation where one bloke punches another it's at least possible that the one doing the punching is to blame?
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Post by: lovejoy on April 02, 2014, 10:35:03 PM
Odemwhingie on SSN saying that the Baggies dressing room has the worst atmosphere he has ever known in football.

To be fair he foes have an axe to grind
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Post by: Dave on April 03, 2014, 08:05:15 AM
Laughable.

This highlights why we are where we are. Arrogant, egosticial individuals who think they are better than they are. Berahino has an attitude problem and it is hardly surprising that someone has eventually turned around and twatted him.

Seems a bit harsh to blame Berahino without knowing exactly what the circumstances are. Surely in a situation where one bloke punches another it's at least possible that the one doing the punching is to blame?
Plus, if he was responsible for the goal that they conceded after 95 minutes, wasn't he even more responsible for the goal that they had scored 90 seconds earlier?
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Post by: Damo70 on April 03, 2014, 03:51:10 PM
Odemwhingie on SSN saying that the Baggies dressing room has the worst atmosphere he has ever known in football.


I smiled when I saw that comment from him on Sky. When he was there surely any atmosphere was partly down to him and his attitude.
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Post by: ADVILLAFAN on April 03, 2014, 04:07:52 PM
He said something about he couldn't see himself staying at a club the size of West Brom and then he's ended up at Stoke....A smaller club than West Brom....
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Post by: Damo70 on April 03, 2014, 04:16:15 PM
Also, in between he tried to sign for QPR and went to Cardiff.
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Post by: aj2k77 on April 03, 2014, 04:47:20 PM
Odemwhingie on SSN saying that the Baggies dressing room has the worst atmosphere he has ever known in football.

He's never sat in the stands at St Andrews then.
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on April 03, 2014, 06:17:43 PM
Odemwhingie on SSN saying that the Baggies dressing room has the worst atmosphere he has ever known in football.

Whatever Odemwingie says should be taken with a huge pinch of salt. He was the main culprit as to why the second half of our season was so poor. I love how he can slate the dressing room, does he not realise he played a major part in ruining the team spirit which had been so strong over the previous few months?

Odemwingie has a career littered with falls outs. He, eventually, will fall out with Mark Hughes and his players at Stoke. He's fallen out with Nigerian his coach so many times everybody has lost count, he fell out with the people at Lokomotiv who couldn't wait to sell him for a cut down price. He fell out with Roy Hodgson, he fell out with Steve Clarke, the players and seemingly the board.

Joseph Yobo summed him up perfectly:

Quote
He is very disrespectful. I don't know what came over him. Everybody cannot be responsible for Osaze's (Odemwingie's local name) problem. He sees everybody as the cause of his problems but he need to stop being childish and have to look at the mirror to check himself. He needs to grow up.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Liam_Baggies on April 03, 2014, 06:19:24 PM
Seems a bit harsh to blame Berahino without knowing exactly what the circumstances are. Surely in a situation where one bloke punches another it's at least possible that the one doing the punching is to blame?

A couple of my sentences were describing our side as a whole and not solely lambasting Berahino. Having said that, he has an attitude problem, of that there is no doubt and the fact that James Morrison (someone very forthright with his opinions) has clobbered him comes as no surprise.
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Post by: Somniloquism on April 03, 2014, 06:36:47 PM
Seems a bit harsh to blame Berahino without knowing exactly what the circumstances are. Surely in a situation where one bloke punches another it's at least possible that the one doing the punching is to blame?

A couple of my sentences were describing our side as a whole and not solely lambasting Berahino. Having said that, he has an attitude problem, of that there is no doubt and the fact that James Morrison (someone very forthright with his opinions) has clobbered him comes as no surprise.

He might have an attitude problem but he is also a young kid in the game. He is still learning and developing. Yes, he should have run the ball into the corner or passed more intelligently.

But it wasn't his fault that you went from 2-0 to 2-2 and it wasn't his fault that Morrison blazed over the follow up when he should have scored and it wasn't his fault that even with his mistake, 6 team members didn't get challenges or blocks in properly during Cardiff's build-up. Who were the 3-4 players who made runs with Berahino which made up his mind to try to setup a goal rather then them stopping back in defensive positions? Who was it who headed the original Cardiff clearance back and gave it back to a Cardiff player again even though you had several players forward? Who didn't cut out the cross at source or as it came across?
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on April 03, 2014, 07:07:49 PM
He might have an attitude problem but he is also a young kid in the game. He is still learning and developing. Yes, he should have run the ball into the corner or passed more intelligently.

But it wasn't his fault that you went from 2-0 to 2-2 and it wasn't his fault that Morrison blazed over the follow up when he should have scored and it wasn't his fault that even with his mistake, 6 team members didn't get challenges or blocks in properly during Cardiff's build-up. Who were the 3-4 players who made runs with Berahino which made up his mind to try to setup a goal rather then them stopping back in defensive positions? Who was it who headed the original Cardiff clearance back and gave it back to a Cardiff player again even though you had several players forward? Who didn't cut out the cross at source or as it came across?

I agree - it's a shame that Berahino was apparently singled out when others made mistakes which were just as costly. According to snippets from the media - the players are more frustrated about his actions after the game rather than the initial mistake.
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Post by: Dave Cooper please on April 03, 2014, 09:32:56 PM
Time for us to offer 50p and a packet of crisps for Berahino, to take him off their hands?

Wasn't he from somewhere like Newtown anyway?

He's from Burundi, son of asylum seekers, but yes he was living in Newtown when Olbiyun picked him up.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: pauliewalnuts on April 04, 2014, 02:25:46 PM
Odemwhingie on SSN saying that the Baggies dressing room has the worst atmosphere he has ever known in football.

To be fair he foes have an axe to grind

To be honest, if it's a toss up between siding with the Stripeys and Odemwingie over that transfer deadline day thing, then I am with the Stripeys every time.

What a horrible self-obsessed turd he comes across as.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on April 04, 2014, 02:42:34 PM
Yes, Odemwingie doesn't come across as the most likeable person.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Damo70 on April 04, 2014, 04:09:52 PM
Odemwhingie on SSN saying that the Baggies dressing room has the worst atmosphere he has ever known in football.

To be fair he foes have an axe to grind

To be honest, if it's a toss up between siding with the Stripeys and Odemwingie over that transfer deadline day thing, then I am with the Stripeys every time.

What a horrible self-obsessed turd he comes across as.

When Harry Redknapp distances himself from a situation you know something is seriously up.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: LeeB on April 04, 2014, 06:50:53 PM
Odemwhingie on SSN saying that the Baggies dressing room has the worst atmosphere he has ever known in football.

To be fair he foes have an axe to grind

To be honest, if it's a toss up between siding with the Stripeys and Odemwingie over that transfer deadline day thing, then I am with the Stripeys every time.

What a horrible self-obsessed turd he comes across as.

When Harry Redknapp distances himself from a situation you know something is seriously up.

When you find yourself sympathising with the Bog-eyes you definitely know something is up.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on April 08, 2014, 11:37:13 AM
There's an article about Jeff Astle and his family in the latest 'When Saturday Comes' btw Liam.
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on April 10, 2014, 07:16:45 PM
There's an article about Jeff Astle and his family in the latest 'When Saturday Comes' btw Liam.

I've never heard of when saturday comes.

Do you have a link?
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Post by: Dave on April 10, 2014, 07:42:28 PM
There's an article about Jeff Astle and his family in the latest 'When Saturday Comes' btw Liam.

I've never heard of when saturday comes.

Do you have a link?
*closes mouth*

I don't think the Astle article is online yet, but this (http://www.wsc.co.uk/the-archive/42-Media/145-no-love-no-joy) is always the best introduction to WSC.
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Post by: cheltenhamlion on April 10, 2014, 07:49:40 PM
I can't get on the link to WSC comes without pissing about with my phone but I hope what you posted to show their workings was the Lovejoy piece.
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Post by: Dave on April 10, 2014, 07:54:57 PM
*nods sagely*
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 10, 2014, 09:28:14 PM
Never heard of WSC?

Do they have running water yet in Smethwick?
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Post by: Richard E on April 10, 2014, 09:29:18 PM
Never heard of WSC?

Do they have running water yet in Smethwick?

They're getting it in August. Along with Championship football.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on April 11, 2014, 08:58:08 AM
When Saturday Comes is my favourite football mag. Doesn't just do pandering interviews with players asking them why they're so great.
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Post by: Dr Butler on April 11, 2014, 10:31:02 AM
There's an article about Jeff Astle and his family in the latest 'When Saturday Comes' btw Liam.

I've never heard of when saturday comes.

Do you have a link?
*closes mouth*

I don't think the Astle article is online yet, but this (http://www.wsc.co.uk/the-archive/42-Media/145-no-love-no-joy) is always the best introduction to WSC.

just had another read of that WSC article/review......fucking brilliant.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on April 11, 2014, 10:33:09 AM
When Saturday Comes is my favourite football mag. Doesn't just do pandering interviews with players asking them why they're so great.

I beg your pardon?
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Post by: PeterWithe on April 11, 2014, 12:13:09 PM
I don't think I'll ever tire of that review or would pass up an opportunity to re-read every time its posted. Quite marvelous.
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Post by: Hillbilly on April 14, 2014, 03:29:44 AM
When Saturday Comes is my favourite football mag. Doesn't just do pandering interviews with players asking them why they're so great.
Was my favourite until last month when it had an article by someone called Dave Woodhall. Jumped  the shark at that point.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Richard E on April 17, 2014, 01:42:25 PM
They've organised a boycott of the Man City game in protest at the £56 ticket price and as a result have only sold 300 tickets.

The bloke who planned the protest must be a bit disappointed that only 5 people have supported him.
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Post by: cdbullyweefan on April 17, 2014, 01:56:33 PM
In fairness to them, good luck with the boycott. Ticket prices are a disgrace and should be regulated.
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Post by: LeeB on April 17, 2014, 02:17:46 PM
They've organised a boycott of the Man City game in protest at the £56 ticket price and as a result have only sold 300 tickets.

The bloke who planned the protest must be a bit disappointed that only 5 people have supported him.

Ace.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on April 23, 2014, 11:43:26 PM
You think we've got it bad? http://thebirminghampress.com/2014/04/monday-night-misery/
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Post by: Louzie0 on April 24, 2014, 12:09:39 AM
Today at work I was referred to this site:

www.boingboing.org.uk

I called it up and covered my eyes, peeped through between my fingers and, well.
It wasn't what I expected!

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Post by: Richard E on April 25, 2014, 09:06:10 AM
The best fans in the West Midlands, always 100% behind their players...

http://www.waste of paper.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/west-brom-shock-messages-facebook-7026698
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Post by: Dr Butler on April 25, 2014, 12:05:42 PM
Today at work I was referred to this site:

www.boingboing.org.uk

I called it up and covered my eyes, peeped through between my fingers and, well.
It wasn't what I expected!



is it safe for work ?
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Post by: olaftab on April 25, 2014, 12:13:25 PM
I am going to the Thornbush tomorrow. It's a hospitality invite but in name only. Last time they ran out of meet with half the guests in the room still not fed. I am taking a steak with me and hopefully they will cook it!
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Post by: Pete3206 on April 25, 2014, 12:24:41 PM
The best fans in the West Midlands, always 100% behind their players...

http://www.waste of paper.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/west-brom-shock-messages-facebook-7026698


Good old Agent Ridgewell
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Post by: Louzie0 on April 25, 2014, 12:27:04 PM
Today at work I was referred to this site:

www.boingboing.org.uk

I called it up and covered my eyes, peeped through between my fingers and, well.
It wasn't what I expected!



is it safe for work ?
As houses
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Dr Butler on April 25, 2014, 12:40:12 PM
Today at work I was referred to this site:

www.boingboing.org.uk

I called it up and covered my eyes, peeped through between my fingers and, well.
It wasn't what I expected!



is it safe for work ?
As houses

wow...very appropriate, especially the line....Resilience research and practice provides powerful knowledge to help Albion fans having particularly tough times.

UTV
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Post by: Louzie0 on April 25, 2014, 12:43:37 PM
Today at work I was referred to this site:

www.boingboing.org.uk

I called it up and covered my eyes, peeped through between my fingers and, well.
It wasn't what I expected!



is it safe for work ?
As houses

wow...very appropriate, especially the line....Resilience research and practice provides powerful knowledge to help Albion fans having particularly tough times.

UTV
:) very good
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Post by: Clampy on April 28, 2014, 09:46:47 AM
Popped in my local yesterday where the Stripeyfilth were very happy. One particular gloater who's about in his mid 50's (and had his albion shirt on) came over and said they were starting to score goals 'all over the pitch'. When I said who in particular, he said 'Dorrans'. My reply 'Oh you mean the one goal he's scored?'

Me and the mate I was with just kept looking down at the woodwork on the wall. He didn't get it.
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Post by: Villa in Denmark on April 28, 2014, 08:40:28 PM
Apparently they're nearly as good as our other illustrious neighbours at squad management.

See No 9 - Albion only have 13 players contracted for next season (http://gu.com/p/3zm8t)
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Post by: The Left Side on April 28, 2014, 11:26:19 PM
Apparently they're nearly as good as our other illustrious neighbours at squad management.

See No 9 - Albion only have 13 players contracted for next season (http://gu.com/p/3zm8t)

Shame.
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Post by: cdbullyweefan on April 29, 2014, 10:18:00 AM
See also 10, would be handy if Adebayor was banned from playing against us in the last game.
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Post by: tomd2103 on April 30, 2014, 02:24:43 AM
Popped in my local yesterday where the Stripeyfilth were very happy. One particular gloater who's about in his mid 50's (and had his albion shirt on) came over and said they were starting to score goals 'all over the pitch'. When I said who in particular, he said 'Dorrans'. My reply 'Oh you mean the one goal he's scored?'

Me and the mate I was with just kept looking down at the woodwork on the wall. He didn't get it.

I know one who very rarely goes, but loves to spout off on Facebook (particularly obsessed with Villa needless to say). He's been very quiet recently, but after Saturday up popped "Pride of the Midlands" on his Facebook.  Needless to say there wasn't any further activity after the first reply asked if Stoke was no longer considered part of the Midlands. 
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Post by: Witton Warrior on April 30, 2014, 08:12:59 AM
I know one who very rarely goes, but loves to spout off on Facebook (particularly obsessed with Villa needless to say). He's been very quiet recently, but after Saturday up popped "Pride of the Midlands" on his Facebook.  Needless to say there wasn't any further activity after the first reply asked if Stoke was no longer considered part of the Midlands. 

That'll be Stoke City he supports now then ;-)
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Post by: Richard E on May 01, 2014, 12:42:40 PM
We're going to have to think of a new insult to replace "Stripeyfilth" by the looks of it:-

http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/west-bromwich-albion-fc/2014/05/01/west-bromwich-albion-set-to-ditch-blue-and-white-stripes/
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Post by: Clampy on May 01, 2014, 12:54:55 PM
We're going to have to think of a new insult to replace "Stripeyfilth" by the looks of it:-

http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/west-bromwich-albion-fc/2014/05/01/west-bromwich-albion-set-to-ditch-blue-and-white-stripes/

Pinstripeyfilth it is then
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Post by: Richard E on May 01, 2014, 05:09:05 PM
We're going to have to think of a new insult to replace "Stripeyfilth" by the looks of it:-

http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/west-bromwich-albion-fc/2014/05/01/west-bromwich-albion-set-to-ditch-blue-and-white-stripes/

Pinstripeyfilth it is then

Works for me!
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Post by: Dave Cooper please on May 01, 2014, 05:52:36 PM
Just Filth works for me.
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Post by: cheltenhamlion on May 01, 2014, 08:10:38 PM
I tend to use c***s, but each to their own.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: ez on May 04, 2014, 07:17:06 PM
They'll be devastated if they don't carry off the 'Finishing Above Villa Cup' they covet so much.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Richard E on May 05, 2014, 05:15:27 AM
They'll be devastated if they don't carry off the 'Finishing Above Villa Cup' they covet so much.

Every chance they'll lose their last two games I reckon. Sunderland and Stoke are both in good form and their record against Stoke is appalling.
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Post by: olaftab on May 05, 2014, 07:19:40 AM
Tesco have changed their bag design for over 12 months now so they are just trying to catch up. Every little helps.
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Post by: Damo70 on May 05, 2014, 12:43:05 PM
They'll be devastated if they don't carry off the 'Finishing Above Villa Cup' they covet so much.

Every chance they'll lose their last two games I reckon. Sunderland and Stoke are both in good form and their record against Stoke is appalling.

If they finish below us they slag off the manager, the chairman, the players and the unfair competition that is the Premier League. If they finish above us the Premier League is the best league in the world and they are a great club and team.
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on May 05, 2014, 06:07:46 PM
If they finish below us they slag off the manager, the chairman, the players and the unfair competition that is the Premier League. If they finish above us the Premier League is the best league in the world and they are a great club and team.

The chairman deserves every bit of criticism that comes his way recently.
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Post by: cdbullyweefan on May 05, 2014, 08:03:53 PM
Why "recently"? Can't remember Albion ever spending any money, why is this year different? This isn't having a dig, by the way. Just asking.
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on May 05, 2014, 10:15:10 PM
Why "recently"? Can't remember Albion ever spending any money, why is this year different? This isn't having a dig, by the way. Just asking.

A case of him not learning his lessons.

We spent the whole of the summer window corner cutting to try and avoid spending any money whatsoever. We tried doing it on loans and free transfers and it needed Steve Clarke to speak publicly for the club to stand up and back their manager. When we needed our defence strengthened we re-signed a left back who wasn't good enough last season and offered new deals to both Steven Reid and Zoltan Gera, both of whom are incredibly injury prone - instead of moving them on and replacing them, the club retained them.

He appointed McDonough and then took his eyes completely off the ball. Like Lerner, he's took a back seat and allowed for political infighting between McDonough and Garlick to almost de-rail our season. Eventually, once it all became public, McDonough was then given his P45 but bringing in two blokes to do one role was always going to cause friction. If Peace didn't think Garlick was up to the job then he shouldn't have been appointed but Peace does a splendid job in not getting on with people and therefore getting someone to replace Ashworth was near enough impossible.

We've then seen the Anelka and Berahino/Morrison incidents. Firstly, Anelka should never have been signed. Peace made comments about not signing players for their last pay-days and ended up sanctioning the deals of not only Anelka but Lugano too. Also, the Berahino and Morrison incident - just when it needed to someone to come down and stamp their authority Peace was yet again AWOL as he allowed this club to float along and hope that we would miraculously find three sides somehow worse than we are.

Then there was the sale of Shane Long - in 2005, Peace sold two of our strikers because he saw the £££ signs. They weren't replaced and we finished the season with a strikeforce barely good enough for the Championship. We were relegated that year. This year, Peace again seeing the money signs sells Shane Long and fails to replace him adequately. But at least the bank balance is looking healthy eh?

Then there was the ridiculous charade of appointing a head coach who was only going to be Peace's scapegoat had things not gone according to plan. The lack of direction of this football club which should stem from the top was yet again missing and we appointed a man who speaks little English with the mission of transforming our football principles mid-season. The only help he received was a loan signing from the second division of Spain. The corner cutting didn't stop there either. It took six weeks for Pepe Mel to be appointed - he had two initial interviews and was clearly the man the club wanted. Mel wanted an assistant to come with (David Gomez) who could speak fluent English - of course, Peace wouldn't sanction that and left the newly appointed Pepe Mel, new to this country, new to the surroundings without any help whatsoever. Once the struggling signs were clearly evident Peace went back on his initial answer three weeks later and appointed David Gomez on a six month contract - a complete and utter farce, a waste of valuable time.

Throughout Mel's tenure there has been constant speculation that he was facing the sack. The club have came out and made numerous statements this season but when their manager needed a bit of backing the club have refused to support him.

The summer is going to need some work (and money) for Mel to get this squad playing the way he wants them too. Of course, nobody can see that happening so it wouldn't surprise any of us to see Mel given the boot and someone like Chris Hughton with his boring, dull, unimaginative football appointed.

In the last ten years he has set about neutralising this football club. We've have distanced ourselves from our fans and we must be the only club which does not pay tribute to its heroes. Even the Astle Gates had to be brought by the fans. It started with the stands being neutralised into West and East and the lettering being removed from the seats. We then had Peace changing our iconic badge and he now looks set to ruin more of our tradition by adopting a pin-stripe kit - when have we ever worn pin stripes in our history?

He also pays himself a very hefty salary - well over £1million pounds a season for doing bugger all - I believe he is one of the highest paid/directors chairman in the league - both he and Jenkins earn more than Paul Faulkner If I remember correctly. To put that into perspective, he also earns more than directors at several of the clubs currently in the top four.

But we're only over achieving according to him..
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Liam_Baggies on May 05, 2014, 10:23:54 PM
Oh yeah..

As for the fans having a say. This is a man who organises shareholders meetings at ridiculous times in London and then sends Jenkins to do the dirty work.

That's how much he values the say of supporters.
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Post by: cdbullyweefan on May 05, 2014, 10:33:07 PM
Cheers for the reply Liam. Does the club actually have money to spend? No idea what your accounts are like.
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Post by: peter w on May 05, 2014, 10:38:57 PM
Didn't you have a pin stripe kit in the mid-80s or sometime around then?
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Post by: Dave on May 05, 2014, 11:12:50 PM
Then there was the sale of Shane Long - in 2005, Peace sold two of our strikers because he saw the £££ signs. They weren't replaced and we finished the season with a strikeforce barely good enough for the Championship. We were relegated that year. This year, Peace again seeing the money signs sells Shane Long and fails to replace him adequately. But at least the bank balance is looking healthy eh?
Surely it's a case of getting value when it presents itself though?

£6m for a solid if unspectacular player with six months left on his contract and showing no indication of wanting to sign a new one?

It would have been crazy to refuse that.
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Post by: LeeB on May 06, 2014, 07:38:46 AM
Why "recently"? Can't remember Albion ever spending any money, why is this year different? This isn't having a dig, by the way. Just asking.

A case of him not learning his lessons.

We spent the whole of the summer window corner cutting to try and avoid spending any money whatsoever. We tried doing it on loans and free transfers and it needed Steve Clarke to speak publicly for the club to stand up and back their manager. When we needed our defence strengthened we re-signed a left back who wasn't good enough last season and offered new deals to both Steven Reid and Zoltan Gera, both of whom are incredibly injury prone - instead of moving them on and replacing them, the club retained them.

He appointed McDonough and then took his eyes completely off the ball. Like Lerner, he's took a back seat and allowed for political infighting between McDonough and Garlick to almost de-rail our season. Eventually, once it all became public, McDonough was then given his P45 but bringing in two blokes to do one role was always going to cause friction. If Peace didn't think Garlick was up to the job then he shouldn't have been appointed but Peace does a splendid job in not getting on with people and therefore getting someone to replace Ashworth was near enough impossible.

We've then seen the Anelka and Berahino/Morrison incidents. Firstly, Anelka should never have been signed. Peace made comments about not signing players for their last pay-days and ended up sanctioning the deals of not only Anelka but Lugano too. Also, the Berahino and Morrison incident - just when it needed to someone to come down and stamp their authority Peace was yet again AWOL as he allowed this club to float along and hope that we would miraculously find three sides somehow worse than we are.

Then there was the sale of Shane Long - in 2005, Peace sold two of our strikers because he saw the £££ signs. They weren't replaced and we finished the season with a strikeforce barely good enough for the Championship. We were relegated that year. This year, Peace again seeing the money signs sells Shane Long and fails to replace him adequately. But at least the bank balance is looking healthy eh?

Then there was the ridiculous charade of appointing a head coach who was only going to be Peace's scapegoat had things not gone according to plan. The lack of direction of this football club which should stem from the top was yet again missing and we appointed a man who speaks little English with the mission of transforming our football principles mid-season. The only help he received was a loan signing from the second division of Spain. The corner cutting didn't stop there either. It took six weeks for Pepe Mel to be appointed - he had two initial interviews and was clearly the man the club wanted. Mel wanted an assistant to come with (David Gomez) who could speak fluent English - of course, Peace wouldn't sanction that and left the newly appointed Pepe Mel, new to this country, new to the surroundings without any help whatsoever. Once the struggling signs were clearly evident Peace went back on his initial answer three weeks later and appointed David Gomez on a six month contract - a complete and utter farce, a waste of valuable time.

Throughout Mel's tenure there has been constant speculation that he was facing the sack. The club have came out and made numerous statements this season but when their manager needed a bit of backing the club have refused to support him.

The summer is going to need some work (and money) for Mel to get this squad playing the way he wants them too. Of course, nobody can see that happening so it wouldn't surprise any of us to see Mel given the boot and someone like Chris Hughton with his boring, dull, unimaginative football appointed.

In the last ten years he has set about neutralising this football club. We've have distanced ourselves from our fans and we must be the only club which does not pay tribute to its heroes. Even the Astle Gates had to be brought by the fans. It started with the stands being neutralised into West and East and the lettering being removed from the seats. We then had Peace changing our iconic badge and he now looks set to ruin more of our tradition by adopting a pin-stripe kit - when have we ever worn pin stripes in our history?

He also pays himself a very hefty salary - well over £1million pounds a season for doing bugger all - I believe he is one of the highest paid/directors chairman in the league - both he and Jenkins earn more than Paul Faulkner If I remember correctly. To put that into perspective, he also earns more than directors at several of the clubs currently in the top four.

But we're only over achieving according to him..

Sounds like a young Doug Ellis. Enjoy the next 25 years.
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Post by: stuart r on May 06, 2014, 10:59:38 AM
Why "recently"? Can't remember Albion ever spending any money, why is this year different? This isn't having a dig, by the way. Just asking.

A case of him not learning his lessons.

We spent the whole of the summer window corner cutting to try and avoid spending any money whatsoever. We tried doing it on loans and free transfers and it needed Steve Clarke to speak publicly Zzzz Zzzz... last season and offered new deals to both Steven Reid and Zoltan Gera, both of whom are incredibly injury prone ... zzz Zzz....Zzzz....Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz  ... could speak fluent English - of course, Peace wouldn't sanction that and left the newly appointed ...ZZZZZ ZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ... only over achieving according to him..

Cheers mate, really interesting. Thanks for writing all that stuff about your football team and posting it on here.
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Post by: Louzie0 on May 06, 2014, 11:10:44 AM
'Peace does a splendid job in not getting on with people'

Sorry but this was a genuine lol moment- what an inappropriate name for such a chippy, abrasive and otherwise as described plain irritating guy!

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Post by: Ads on May 06, 2014, 11:11:34 AM
This is an Albion thread in fairness.

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Post by: cheltenhamlion on May 06, 2014, 11:16:24 AM
Well I thought it was an interesting read. Posting about Olbiyun, on a thread about them and in response to a question is hardly a hanging offence.
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Post by: stuart r on May 06, 2014, 11:27:40 AM
Well I thought it was an interesting read. Posting about Olbiyun, on a thread about them and in response to a question is hardly a hanging offence.

I was acting in accordance with the thread title (Patronise – demean, denigrate, belittle, be condescending, talk down to). And anyway, some of my best friends are West Bromwich fans.
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Post by: damon loves JT on May 06, 2014, 11:42:14 AM
Thanks for the reply Liam. Very interesting to the outside observer.
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Post by: Richard E on May 06, 2014, 11:43:38 AM
Thanks for the reply Liam. Very interesting to the outside observer.

Indeed. Its gratifying to know that the other Midlands clubs are run as badly as we are.
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Post by: damon loves JT on May 06, 2014, 11:46:30 AM
And that they have intelligent and perceptive supporters.
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Post by: Richard E on May 06, 2014, 11:49:47 AM
And that they have intelligent and perceptive supporters.

AN intelligent and perceptive supporter singular - let's not go too soft on them!
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Post by: dave shelley on May 06, 2014, 12:13:14 PM
Very heartfelt Liam, it can be painful watching your club, whoever you support can't it?
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Post by: usav on May 06, 2014, 04:57:10 PM
Well I thought it was an interesting read. Posting about Olbiyun, on a thread about them and in response to a question is hardly a hanging offence.

I was acting in accordance with the thread title (Patronise – demean, denigrate, belittle, be condescending, talk down to). And anyway, some of my best friends are West Bromwich fans.

The same friends that are gay, or is that different subset?
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Post by: pauliewalnuts on May 06, 2014, 05:06:51 PM
Interesting read, Liam.

What a bunch of basket cases the Birmingham (I know, I know) clubs are.

This season:

Villa = 6 home league wins
Albion = 4 home league wins
Small Heath = 2 home league wins.

So between the three clubs, 12 home wins out of 60 home league games.

That's truly pathetic.
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Post by: Chris Smith on May 06, 2014, 05:18:43 PM
Interesting read, Liam.

What a bunch of basket cases the Birmingham (I know, I know) clubs are.

This season:

Villa = 6 home league wins
Albion = 4 home league wins
Small Heath = 2 home league wins.

So between the three clubs, 12 home wins out of 60 home league games.

That's truly pathetic.

Dear me, it looks stark when you see that written down.

Mind you it has to be said, we had as many as the other pair put together. :¬)
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Post by: pauliewalnuts on May 06, 2014, 05:20:33 PM
Especially Blues, when you think those 2 wins came out of *23* home games.

No wonder their fans love Touchwood on a Saturday afternoon so much.
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on May 06, 2014, 06:34:21 PM
Surely it's a case of getting value when it presents itself though?

£6m for a solid if unspectacular player with six months left on his contract and showing no indication of wanting to sign a new one?

It would have been crazy to refuse that.

I have no problem with selling Shane Long - in-fact, I was one who advocated the sale once I heard the price that Hull City were offering.

My gripe isn't that Shane Long it was sold - it's the fact that he wasn't replaced and left a weak strike force even weaker. Pepe Mel had only been at the club a week and within that week he has seen one of his better forwards sold from beneath him. Did he not learn his lessons from 2005?

This football club has spent the majority of its history in the top division of English football bar a 16 year spell from about 86 to 02 where we were outside the top division. He then has the cheek to say that we're a mid-table championship club that are massively over-achieving. Seriously, is he on a mission to piss us off?

We've had moderately successful times in recent years by today's modern football standards - lets face it, unless you're from Manchester, Liverpool or certain parts of London you will very rarely taste any success nowadays - taking in our moderate success, he must be the only person on the planet who could manage to see crowds constantly fall. He even muted a stadium expansion some years ago and followed up those proposals by cutting the capacity of the ground, not one, but twice.

He has a real problem on his hands now with Pepe Mel. The fans have taken to him and the large majority want him to stay - infact if we could choose between Mel or Peace going then I'm afraid Jeremy, you have run your cause. If Mel goes then Peace will have bitten off his last straw with many Albion fans and myself. Pepe Mel has class, dignity, respect, morales and most importantly a willingness to engage with supporters - moreso than Peace has in eleven years - he doesn't deserve to be treated like shite by a ruthless businessman who has no ounce of feeling for our football or it's supporters.

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Post by: pauliewalnuts on May 06, 2014, 07:47:52 PM
I like Pepe Mel. He's the sort of bloke I want to see do well.

Not afraid to dive in and start trying to work in English. Unlike Pochettino still hiding behind an interpreter a year later.
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Post by: peter w on May 06, 2014, 09:41:50 PM
I like Mel too. And amongst all this, even the Albion poster's slagging us off within they're own company. We all do. Plus it shows that onlya  few of us hate them. I'm not arsed about them except when they just try and ruffle feathers with this 'Best In the Midlands' guff. That they truly think we give a Shit to be called top of a region that only sporadically has any decent teams. And then it's one or two, more miodcre, and then even more absolute shite. Why would we have any pride in being called the best of the rubbish around us? I wonder if it even means anything to Stoke?

because of their tedium that's why i'm more negative to them than I would normally. Because despite just about being able to remember the Cropley incident and the ground in family-influenced dislike of Ally's Robertson and Brown and going to school in Bearwood from 82-87, I really don't give too much of a shite about them.

Going to their ground is nothing like St Andrews and the immediate intense hate and edginess felt from the minute you approach two miles within the ground. Villa Park is not much different to be fair. I always see it as a kind of day trip. It reminds me of going to play a Village team for a Saturday team from Horley once. The place is strange, you know they don't like you, but are unable to approach anything other than mild menace.

That's my problem, though. I only really care about the Villa and couldn't be arsed with the meanderings of a fan of another club. But I also do like the insight to another club just on a connoisseur of football level.

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Post by: pauliewalnuts on May 06, 2014, 09:54:47 PM
I've never really had anything against Albion.

I was brought up in South Birmingham, which is probably why. I met about as many Albion fans as I did Sunderland fans when I was kid, there just weren't any around. I don't really get the hatred of them. Well, that's wrong, I mean I understand why some people do, I've just never felt it myself.

Although I was glad Small Heath stayed up - on a "good for the city" basis, mostly - it is all about Blues when it comes to local rivals for me. Albion just don't register.
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Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on May 06, 2014, 10:11:39 PM
Growing up in Aston/Hockley I was aware of just one person who wasn't a Villa supporter - my cousin's boyfriend who was a Nose. (he didn't last!).
The first Baggies fan I knew was a lad at secondary school after we'd moved to Tamworth.
They never bothered me until all this "We know what we are" shit.
But my old man considered the Baggies as our local rivals. Blues were always so far below us they were never considered rivals.
I think the Blues thing started in the 60s as far as I'm aware.
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Post by: pauliewalnuts on May 06, 2014, 10:21:48 PM
My Dad is a nose. He's the only one on his side of the family who cares about football.

My mom has three brothers, who are all Villa fans, and who "got" to me pretty quickly, as I was the first of their nephews.

When i was a kid, my Dad used to take me and my mate to Villa matches, even though he was a nose. He did it because we wanted to go, and he liked to watch the games. I think it's different these days, but back then - mid to late 1970s - it wasn't really such a big deal. A little earlier than that, people used to go to Villa one week, Blues the next.

I've been to an Albion game once as a neutral. Villa were away or not playing, and we fancied watching some football.

I'd never, ever in a million years consider doing that at a Blues match. Never.
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Post by: SteveN on May 06, 2014, 10:29:00 PM
When I was a lad in the 60s it was the Villa one week and the Albion the next.  You could get in for free at the Hawthorns at half time.
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Post by: dave shelley on May 06, 2014, 10:48:01 PM
You could get in for free down the Villa using the old trick of going under the turnstile through a willing older blokes legs.

You could always get in for nowt at the Blues too if you went down the alley of one of the terraced houses that used to stand opposite the old Kingston picture house.  Once down the alley you could get over the wall and come out in the corner where the clock was on the Kop near the railway end.

Guilty on both counts.
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Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on May 06, 2014, 10:54:59 PM
When I was a lad in the 60s it was the Villa one week and the Albion the next.  You could get in for free at the Hawthorns at half time.
They used to do that at VP too.
It's the only way my brother would've taken me to games.
Sit on the embankment opposite VP and catch a few glimpses of the action/listen to the crowd 1st half, then run down and wait for the gates to open just after half time. I was only about 6, and a very long time ago, but it's how I remember it.
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Post by: OzVilla on May 07, 2014, 06:55:04 AM

You could always get in for nowt at the Blues too

Seems some things don't change.
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Post by: Damo70 on May 07, 2014, 08:43:42 AM
I thought that was a very interesting and insightful piece by Liam.
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Post by: fbriai on May 07, 2014, 08:53:15 AM
I thought that was a very interesting and insightful piece by Liam.

I agree.
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Post by: olaftab on May 07, 2014, 11:03:19 AM
The current state of our 3 local clubs is shameful. I wish we were all arguing about European qualifications rather than perennial relegation avoidance. JUST not good enough.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on May 07, 2014, 01:07:40 PM
http://www.waste of paper.co.uk/news/midlands-news/jeff-astles-daughter-slams-west-7082403

Oh dear.
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Post by: Villa in Denmark on May 07, 2014, 05:34:01 PM
So they're pissed of that the club won't alter a fan safety policy, to allow them to do what they want, and the offer of unfettered access to areas outside the ground isn't good enough.

What's not clear is if the request was dismissed out of hand or rejected after due consideration, either because of not wishing to create a precedent, which can always fall foul of the law of unintended consequences, or based on some form a risk assessment that showed the probability of a serious incident because of increased congestion would rise above an acceptable level.  There are standard frequency values for these types of incidents dependent on building configuration and expected population density that should be fine tuned to better match the precise circumstances.


I have a deal of sympathy with the cause, just as I would anything investigating the possibility of industrial injury or disease caused by ignorance of the problem at the time.

Using his name and memory is a fantastic way of highlighting the cause, but the sense of entitlement that seems to appear every time his family appears in the press could quickly put off a lot of people who might otherwise be supportive.
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Post by: The Left Side on May 07, 2014, 06:23:24 PM
Anyone seen the new bogeyes shirt, all white with blue pinstripes. Yam won't be 'appy with it.
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on May 08, 2014, 01:18:41 PM
http://www.waste of paper.co.uk/news/midlands-news/jeff-astles-daughter-slams-west-7082403

Oh dear.

And that for me is the final straw.

This isn't the club I fell in love with anymore.

We're just a financial machine who doesn't give a fuck about its fans. No - customers sorry.

If it hadn't been for Pepe Mel I'd have packed watching these spineless tossers in ages ago.
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Post by: Somniloquism on May 08, 2014, 01:34:34 PM
You did read the story properly didn't you? Or read TV's take on it in the next post?

They have only said no to having the cards distributed in the foyers where it could cause congestion. But they are ok with them using certain points outside which complies with H & S Rules.

What has surprised me is that the club/ fans haven't seemed to think to have them placed on the seats before the game. That then stops either argument as they are already distributed and the club has helped. Of course it would need a lot of volunteers from the fans group to do this though.
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on May 08, 2014, 01:52:33 PM
The club have said they didn't want them distributed on club property - although those ridiculous pink hands with T-Mobile littered across them was an exception to the safety rule.

This is a supporters organised theme - nothing to do with his family.

A polite request was made for his image to be shown on our screens during the 9th minute - they refused that too.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on May 08, 2014, 01:57:13 PM
This doesn't half remind me of us - when the team are doing badly everything the club does is wrong and there is no possible other side to the story. I agree with ViD - sympathy for the family without doubt but they do seem to be expecting to get whatever they want now.
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on May 08, 2014, 02:11:24 PM
This doesn't half remind me of us - when the team are doing badly everything the club does is wrong and there is no possible other side to the story. I agree with ViD - sympathy for the family without doubt but they do seem to be expecting to get whatever they want now.

In fairness to the family, this card display has nothing to do with them - it was fan organised.
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Post by: Somniloquism on May 08, 2014, 02:22:04 PM
This doesn't half remind me of us - when the team are doing badly everything the club does is wrong and there is no possible other side to the story. I agree with ViD - sympathy for the family without doubt but they do seem to be expecting to get whatever they want now.

In fairness to the family, this card display has nothing to do with them - it was fan organised.
So if it is nothing to do with them, why are they then making the all the fuss on Twitter. Maybe she should have spoken to the club before going public to find out what was going on.
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Post by: Chico Hamilton III on May 08, 2014, 04:25:20 PM
Anyone seen the new bogeyes shirt, all white with blue pinstripes. Yam won't be 'appy with it.

Is it true that the Albion wore a claret and blue kit before we did? 1884
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Post by: Richard E on May 08, 2014, 04:33:14 PM
If it hadn't been for Pepe Mel I'd have packed watching these spineless tossers in ages ago.

Liam - what is it with the Pepe Mel love-in amongst Albion fans? He hasn't exactly "pulled up trees" ( (c) BFR Atkinson) since he has been with you so why are you all so supportive of him?
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Post by: dave.woodhall on May 08, 2014, 04:35:13 PM
This doesn't half remind me of us - when the team are doing badly everything the club does is wrong and there is no possible other side to the story. I agree with ViD - sympathy for the family without doubt but they do seem to be expecting to get whatever they want now.

In fairness to the family, this card display has nothing to do with them - it was fan organised.
So if it is nothing to do with them, why are they then making the all the fuss on Twitter. Maybe she should have spoken to the club before going public to find out what was going on.

Indeed.
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Post by: Villa in Denmark on May 08, 2014, 05:39:21 PM
The club have said they didn't want them distributed on club property - although those ridiculous pink hands with T-Mobile littered across them was an exception to the safety rule.

This is a supporters organised theme - nothing to do with his family.

A polite request was made for his image to be shown on our screens during the 9th minute - they refused that too.

Quote from: Birmingham Mail
“For Sunday, we have pinpointed areas outside of the stadium that would enable organisers to distribute the cards without affecting the flow of supporters entering the stadium."
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Post by: Villa in Denmark on May 08, 2014, 05:42:40 PM
You did read the story properly didn't you? Or read TV's take on it in the next post?
I don't live in Toronto. ;-)
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on May 08, 2014, 08:58:50 PM
Liam - what is it with the Pepe Mel love-in amongst Albion fans? He hasn't exactly "pulled up trees" ( (c) BFR Atkinson) since he has been with you so why are you all so supportive of him?

Hi, Richard

There are a number of reasons why we are so supportive of Pepe Mel but firstly I will give you an insight into his character. Ever since his arrival he has been nothing but warm, approachable and humble. He has spoken highly about our football club and has been willing to engage with supporters despite his English not being at its greatest. We've commended the fact that despite a poor grasp of the language he has been willing to do his after match interviews in English - now upon club request he is speaking in Spanish. Recently, on the day his good mate Tito Vilanova sadly lost his life, we were offering contracts to our under 8s team who would be making the step up - to their surprise, Pepe Mel walked through the door to greet the youngsters and their families, offering them advice, stopping for photo-graphs all within a couple of hours of finding out he lost one of his allies in Spain. This was also a man that was borderline in tears when he found out that supporters were planning a Spanish themed day at Swansea because the club refused to issue a statement of support for him at a time when his future was being discussed in the media.

We're at a crossroads as a football club that we aren't going to get into Europe and we want to be entertained. I'm fed up of watching boring, rigid, unimaginative football where we treat the ball as if we're carrying a live ticking bomb at our feet. In Pepe we have someone who we believe who champions the Albion way of playing football. Quick intensity, good footballers, high pressing and general entertainment - entertainment which has been lost since the days of Astle, Regis, Cunningham, Robson and Cantello. 

He has taken over a bunch of egotistical footballers who aren't good enough to play the way he would like them too. He's compromised purely to get us to survive. These same players got their mate Steve Clarke the sack, they picked up for a while under keith Downing but soon reverted into their usual dross. Pepe has had them working harder but even now they're resorting to their half arsed attitudes that have been lingering around for so long. There are players within the squad who have been in decline for so long I don't believe there is any coach on this planet that could possibly turn around their fortunes.

Then it comes down to the backing he has received from our chairman - I should rephrase that too lack of backing. The refusal to allow him to bring one of his two trusted assistants. Secondly, the refusal to do any business in January when it was obvious he needed a player or two more comfortable with his methods. He received Thievy from the second division on Spain at a time when clubs around us strengthened.

He was given the mission of keeping us up and re-forming the our squad to play attractive football, the Albion way as such. Instead, because of some arsed attitudes from several players it looks like Pepe Mel will be bearing the brunt of them by having his contract cut short in the summer. That for many will be the end. If Pepe goes then I will imagine there will be many Albion fans that go too.

Pepe has made mistakes - of that there is no denying but the problems within this club lie deeper than Pepe Mel and until they are addressed we'll just be sacking managers every twelve months. Pepe deserves the opportunity to re-shape this squad how he likes with the full support of our board. Unfortunately, he isn't going to receive that backing and we'll end up with someone like Chris Hughton to continue with the boring, rigid, unimaginative football that none of us want.

(http://www.wba.co.uk/cms_images/gallery/norwich-away-1314-gallery-49151-1470449_478x359.jpg)

Le Apoyamos a Pepe Mel.
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Post by: Witton Warrior on May 08, 2014, 09:21:36 PM
The Olbiun ST holder I share an office with can't stand Mel but also fears the Houghton-factor

Always interesting to hear other teams described as having "a way"; the West Ham "way", the Tottenham "way" and now the Albion "way" as if other fans don't want that kind of football?

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Post by: Louzie0 on May 08, 2014, 09:30:15 PM
I think you really like him (Pepe Mel) and will defend and follow him to the end. That is something really special between fans and a manager. Good luck. Hope he fulfils your dreams.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 08, 2014, 09:38:38 PM
Liam and Pepe sitting in a tree, forever thinking about A V F C
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on May 08, 2014, 09:44:48 PM
Liam and Pepe sitting in a tree, forever thinking about A V F C

I did have a good retort for the AVFC initials but I won't post them as I have no wish to disrupt the forum.

I think you really like him (Pepe Mel) and will defend and follow him to the end. That is something really special between fans and a manager. Good luck. Hope he fulfils your dreams.

If I had to pick between Pepe Mel, the players and the board then Pepe Mel would win the vote all night long.

He's done an utterly superb job of uniting a fan base that was so apathetic towards the club.

I'll personally never forget the moment he approached us at Swansea away after we had won - he embraced the players and walked towards us. He was being cheered to the rafters, support I've never seen for a WBA boss. He stopped by the penalty spot and took things in before patting his chest and pointing towards us. He then clenched his fist before giving us a round of applause. No Albion manager previously has bothered making such connections with a fan-base.
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Post by: Louzie0 on May 08, 2014, 09:54:49 PM


I think you really like him (Pepe Mel) and will defend and follow him to the end. That is something really special between fans and a manager. Good luck. Hope he fulfils your dreams.

If I had to pick between Pepe Mel, the players and the board then Pepe Mel would win the vote all night long.

All the best for next season.
It's gone completely loony here tonight.
I just want the Villa to do well and I respect the hopes and dreams of a fan of another club.

Except Coventry, who behaved like absolute morons, when I met their fans.
Honestly, the sooner they go down and disappear, the better.
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Post by: andrew08 on May 08, 2014, 09:58:04 PM
Oh dear, 'the Albion way' on this website. Cunningham, Regis, Robson etc etc. Fxxx Off!

The stripey fxxxing Brazil. It's a load of bull. They shouted 'hoof' at Arsenal the saucy buggers. It's all a load of bollox. They we're perpetuating this myth while we picking up a trophy in Rotterdam.

Can we get back to patronizing please and not allowing this utter rubbish. Respect for their history, yes of course, but let's not re write it. Regis, kick and run, Robson just kick, great players undoubtedly, but not cultured.

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Post by: Fin Feds Dad on May 08, 2014, 10:09:22 PM
Ally fucking Robertson - dirty baggies bastard - close the thread.
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Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on May 08, 2014, 10:09:31 PM
The Albion way.
Alex Cropley remembers that pretty well!
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Post by: SoccerHQ on May 08, 2014, 10:14:22 PM
I think Mel will leave, think the board realised they made a bit of an error bringing him in mid season as you could quite easily still be battling relegation on the last day.

Nice bloke though. One of my favourites images of this season was him giving Solskjaer a high five after he was wildly celebrating Cardiff's equaliser in the 95th minute. A rare bit of sportsmanship in the heat of battle.

Good job he didn't do that to Pardew otherwise he'd be in Sandwell A&E now!
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Post by: Richard E on May 08, 2014, 10:23:40 PM
Thanks Liam, very interesting.
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Post by: cheltenhamlion on May 08, 2014, 10:25:41 PM
You see I was liking Liam's posts until I saw the Olbiyun way. All fart and no shit being their way I believe.

And if I was being particularly critical, the reason you don't build much rapport with managers is you tend to want them all sacked 5 minutes after they arrive.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 08, 2014, 10:52:25 PM
Pepe Mel certainly does embrace the Albion way. Rarely win a league game and lose to the Villa. Certainly been the Albion way for the last 30 years.
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Post by: cheltenhamlion on May 08, 2014, 11:07:04 PM
Considering the recent outpouring of support for enquiries into how football contributed to Jeff Astle's death, why are their fans not up in arms about one of their favourite sons in Skinner making a mug of their hero weekly when he clearly had problems?

I wouldn't be holding Nigel Kennedy in any esteem if he had taken Johnny Dixon on a tour of students union bars as a figure of fun in the same condition.
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Post by: ADVILLAFAN on May 09, 2014, 09:06:44 AM
Including only the caps won whilst at the club, which current footballer is West Bromwich Albion's most capped international player ever?
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Post by: cheltenhamlion on May 09, 2014, 11:42:36 AM
Dorrans?
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Post by: ADVILLAFAN on May 09, 2014, 11:43:16 AM
Dorrans?

Nope
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Post by: Richard E on May 09, 2014, 11:45:06 AM
Jason Roberts? (Is he still playing?)
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Post by: PGW on May 09, 2014, 11:46:17 AM
Stuart Williams....died last November!!!
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Post by: ADVILLAFAN on May 09, 2014, 11:59:45 AM
None of them. He's played for the yam-yams in a few different spells.
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Post by: Kevilla on May 09, 2014, 12:02:24 PM
Zoltan Gera
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Post by: Chico Hamilton III on May 09, 2014, 12:06:13 PM
Including only the caps won whilst at the club, which current footballer is West Bromwich Albion's most capped international player ever?

Chris Brunt
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Post by: ADVILLAFAN on May 09, 2014, 12:09:52 PM
Zoltan Gera

We have a winner!
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Post by: Dr Butler on May 09, 2014, 12:20:59 PM
Dorrans?

damn you Chelts, I was going to say Dorrans......

**just seen that it is Gera....
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Post by: dave.woodhall on May 09, 2014, 12:21:46 PM
Terry's not too happy about Mel.

http://thebirminghampress.com/2014/05/its-almost-over/
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Post by: dr.chekov on May 09, 2014, 12:26:26 PM
This is a good piece by one of them lot... http://coachdaveblog.blogspot.co.uk/

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Post by: PGW on May 09, 2014, 01:22:08 PM
This is a good piece by one of them lot... http://coachdaveblog.blogspot.co.uk/


You could more or less substitute the words'West Bromwich Albion' with 'Aston Villa'
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Post by: Witton Warrior on May 09, 2014, 05:17:27 PM
Terry's not too happy about Mel.

http://thebirminghampress.com/2014/05/its-almost-over/

So Terry isn't Liam then?
I thought Pepe had an unbreakable bond with the fans?
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Post by: steamer on May 09, 2014, 07:08:56 PM
Moyes would probably be a great fit for them.
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on May 09, 2014, 07:34:31 PM
Moyes would probably be a great fit for them.

Loffin.

He's just managed one of the greatest clubs in the world, not a chance he would come here and take orders from baldy and the lawyer.
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Post by: Dave on May 09, 2014, 07:49:27 PM
Moyes would probably be a great fit for them.

Loffin.

He's just managed one of the greatest clubs in the world, not a chance he would come here and take orders from baldy and the lawyer.
Urgh, point of order.

Biggest, yes. Greatest? Urgh again.
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Post by: LeeB on May 09, 2014, 08:10:53 PM
Moyes would probably be a great fit for them.

Loffin.

He's just managed one of the greatest clubs in the world, not a chance he would come here and take orders from baldy and the lawyer.
Urgh, point of order.

Biggest, yes. Greatest? Urgh again.

Be fair, he does follow the cuckolds
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Post by: cheltenhamlion on May 10, 2014, 06:12:31 PM
Don't worry, they will be calling for Mel P's head by October. It is the Olbiyun way.
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Post by: saunders_heroes on May 12, 2014, 12:33:26 PM
Christ it's only just dawned on me in the midst of the takeover talk that we finished above the Baggies. So much for the "We Know What We Are" bullshit.
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Post by: Chico Hamilton III on May 12, 2014, 12:38:28 PM
Christ it's only just dawned on me in the midst of the takeover talk that we finished above the Baggies. So much for the "We Know What We Are" bullshit.

Stoke ay it? the pride of the Midlands
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Post by: dave.woodhall on May 12, 2014, 12:39:11 PM
Christ it's only just dawned on me in the midst of the takeover talk that we finished above the Baggies. So much for the "We Know What We Are" bullshit.

Stoke ay it? the pride of the Midlands

Me duck.
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Post by: saunders_heroes on May 12, 2014, 12:51:04 PM
Not a peep out of my Albion supporting friends since yesterday - it's funny because all the times they were above the Villa they were constantly in my ear telling me that they knew what they were.
Now they've vanished into thin air.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on May 12, 2014, 01:36:18 PM
The Astle family, again.

http://www.waste of paper.co.uk/news/jeff-astles-daughter-fury-west-7103242
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Post by: Richard E on May 12, 2014, 02:58:17 PM
Pepe Le Pew has left by mutual consent.
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Post by: pauliewalnuts on May 12, 2014, 02:58:54 PM
Shame about Pepe Mel. I liked the guy.
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Post by: LeeB on May 12, 2014, 03:01:43 PM
Shame about Pepe Mel. I liked the guy.

Well then be happy for him, he hasn't got to go near that god forsaken place again.
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Post by: damon loves JT on May 12, 2014, 03:10:40 PM
The Astle family, again.

http://www.waste of paper.co.uk/news/jeff-astles-daughter-fury-west-7103242

But it's not about compensation, of course.
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Post by: cheltenhamlion on May 12, 2014, 03:12:46 PM
The unbreakable bond has been smashed to pieces then. Olbiyun seem a right basket case at the minute.
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Post by: LeeB on May 12, 2014, 03:13:32 PM
The Astle family, again.

http://www.waste of paper.co.uk/news/jeff-astles-daughter-fury-west-7103242

But it's not about compensation, of course.

I hope Michael and Dawn are incorrectly labelled in that photo, however my match day experiences of the Hawthorns suggest they may not be.
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Post by: cdbullyweefan on May 12, 2014, 03:17:53 PM
"Baggies Chief Executive Mark Jenkins previously stated crowd safety was behind the club’s decision. “We never allow anything to be handed out on the concourses as it could impact the flow of supporters coming through the turnstiles,’’ he said.

“For Sunday, we have pinpointed areas outside of the stadium that would enable organisers to distribute the cards without affecting the flow of supporters entering the stadium.”

Why couldn't they have just handed out their flyers in the area that the club had allocated them?
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Post by: cdbullyweefan on May 12, 2014, 03:29:24 PM
Sorry Liam, Pepe's gone!
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Post by: Dave Cooper please on May 12, 2014, 04:45:26 PM
Let's get #Lambert4WBA trending.
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Post by: ciggiesnbeer on May 12, 2014, 05:41:55 PM
Let's get #Lambert4WBA trending.

I dunno man. given Lamberts rather excellent track record against his previous clubs I would sooner not live that nightmare.
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on May 12, 2014, 06:07:03 PM
He was on a hiding to nothing - a real shame.

A man with great dignity, morals and class and we went and shit on him from a great height.
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Post by: damon loves JT on May 12, 2014, 06:11:28 PM
At least anyone applying for the job now knows what he is up against
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Post by: Somniloquism on May 12, 2014, 08:04:40 PM
Sorry Liam, Pepe's gone!

And his hot daughter judging from the Twitter link mentioned in the mail.

Does anyone know if he has enough background for his new book set in a post apocalyptic wasteland where tribes of Neanderthals roam and speak to each other in gibberish like "Boing Boing", "E ay fayre" and "Weem no wot weyam"?
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Post by: LeeB on May 12, 2014, 08:33:58 PM
Whoever it is, surely the next manager need to understand 'the Albion way'.

Brian Talbot is currently scouting for Fulham.
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Post by: Dave Cooper please on May 13, 2014, 10:33:12 AM
I don't understand the Olbiyun love-in for Pepe Mel.
Even though Villa were utterly shite this season he still managed to take them lot from a position where they had a decent buffer over us to actually finishing below us, that my friends is a pretty astonishing achievement even by their low standards.
And yet they are now blubbing while folding away their Spanish flags. Pepe Mel would have taken them down with a record low amount of points next season if their current form is anything to go by.
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Post by: Richard E on May 13, 2014, 10:34:48 AM
Pepe Mel would have taken them down with a record low amount of points next season if their current form is anything to go by.

Can we not start a campaign to have him reinstated then?
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Post by: ADVILLAFAN on May 13, 2014, 11:07:52 AM
I think they like him as he treated their supporters with respect and tried to change a lot of things in the club for the better. He learnt the language pretty quickly, whilst Pochettino still doesn't both with it for instance. I think there's a feeling that he tried to change too much, too quickly though and that this is the reason why West Brom struggled on the pitch and that he would improve them in the end.
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Post by: Villa in Denmark on May 13, 2014, 03:07:35 PM
Re the language thing and Mel v Pochettino, did I imagine it or did the stripeys ask Mel to go back to speaking in Spanish with an interpreter.

It's easy to criticise something like that unless you've tried it.

I've been over here 6 years now, and am pretty fluent. No problem arguing the toss with the equivalent of the HSE, or the management for the refinery I work at, but there's no way you'd get me standing in front of room of TV cameras and journalists waiting to pick over the bones of everything you do and don't say.

It's so easy to choose the wrong word, and nobody's going to check that that's what you meant. (See Benteke's interview where he says disgusted instead of horrified, and the way we've picked over that as an innocuous example.)

I'm sure Pinnechino is OK talking with the squad etc but, especially if he's not naturally comfortable doing the interviews I think it's fair enough.
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Post by: Clampy on May 13, 2014, 03:50:56 PM


Why couldn't they have just handed out their flyers in the area that the club had allocated them?

Because it wouldn't have given them anything to moan to the press about.

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Post by: Liam_Baggies on May 13, 2014, 05:52:15 PM
I don't understand the Olbiyun love-in for Pepe Mel.
Even though Villa were utterly shite this season he still managed to take them lot from a position where they had a decent buffer over us to actually finishing below us, that my friends is a pretty astonishing achievement even by their low standards.
And yet they are now blubbing while folding away their Spanish flags. Pepe Mel would have taken them down with a record low amount of points next season if their current form is anything to go by.

I think even Mel's most ardent supporters (myself included) will admit that he made mistakes - there is no denying that. Pepe Mel came into this country with a fighting battle on his hands straight away, he had his hands tied behind his back and received no support whatsoever from the club until it became obvious we were struggling when they appointed one of his trusted assistants David Gomez. Throughout his time at the football club Pepe Mel has acted with sheer class, more than can be said for our board and poisonous bunch of players who are ruling the roost at the club. It became perfectly obvious that he wasn't wanted by either the board or the players and that only meant the Pepe Mel/Albion fans bond grew stronger. In terms of his relationship with the fans, it grew a lot stronger after this incident with Steven Reid: http://makeagif.com/ycCeq_ complete and utter dis-respect from the senior members of the squad. I see they're now mud slinging him with them trotting out the pro Downing/Kiely lines and 'we couldn't understand Pepe' - load of nonsense.

Would Pepe Mel have been a success having had the summer to further improve his English and change the squad? We'll never know now.
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Post by: cheltenhamlion on May 13, 2014, 06:08:28 PM
You can have Lambert if you want. He won't have to move house and would do a decent job with you. You know it will end up being someone like Uwe Rosler though. Might work, might not, but will have to be happy to work to Saint Jeremy's financial plans.

And just how much do your board take in salary? According to some Olbiyun fans I know it is obscene.
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on May 13, 2014, 06:26:13 PM
If I remember correctly Jeremy Peace takes just over £1.1 million out of the club - I dread to think how much he pays his puppet Mark Jenkins.

His salary is more than Man City's, Liverpool's, Newcastle's and Chelsea's highest paid directors - there are other clubs to add to this list - I just can't be arsed searching them.
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Post by: cheltenhamlion on May 13, 2014, 06:28:03 PM
Holy cow! Even Doug didn't get remotely close to that for his wisdom.
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Post by: saunders_heroes on May 13, 2014, 06:33:10 PM
If I remember correctly Jeremy Peace takes just over £1.1 million out of the club - I dread to think how much he pays his puppet Mark Jenkins.

His salary is more than Man City's, Liverpool's, Newcastle's and Chelsea's highest paid directors - there are other clubs to add to this list - I just can't be arsed searching them.

He does a good job though so perhaps he deserves the money? Keeping a club like Albion in the PL is no mean task.
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on May 13, 2014, 06:40:16 PM
He does a good job though so perhaps he deserves the money? Keeping a club like Albion in the PL is no mean task.

Does he? He makes a profit every now and again by his persistent corner cutting which so very nearly got us relegated this year - alongside some nonsensical appointments - Pepe Mel (despite how much I love him) and Dave McDonough.

The only time we've ever been successful under Peace was when he relied on the football nous of Dan Ashworth who pulled off minor miracles. When you take away the work of Ashworth then we were nothing more than a yo-yo club and this season nearly reverted back into those ways.

The club has made good progress under him but it is worth remembering that our return to the Premiership and re-designing of the East Stand were all set in stone by Paul Thompson, our former chairman. Peace just happened to catch onto the good wave that Megson created.
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Post by: manic-road on May 13, 2014, 06:41:07 PM
Now that Mel has gone they could try Kim to make them respectable.
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Post by: cheltenhamlion on May 13, 2014, 06:52:29 PM
The only waves I catch with the Olbiyun are those of nausea at their moral grandstanding!

Cheap dig aside, who do you see as your next manager?
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on May 13, 2014, 07:30:59 PM
It's hard to say mate. The job isn't an attractive one. Working under tight constraints with an already existing coaching staff and that doesn't include the high turnover of players we'll see.

I guess it will end up being either Chris Hughton or Derek McInnes.
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Post by: cheltenhamlion on May 13, 2014, 07:41:20 PM
Pretty unimpressive options. Surely you would want a bit of foreign excitement again?

I don't know who mind. Jol? He played for you.

Anyhow, I hope we get a good new owner, ditch Lambert (you could do far worse) and become Jurgen Klopp's claret and blue army!

As likely as Lord Lucan riding through my lounge on the back of Shergar I grant you but.....

Its the hope that fucks you.
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on May 13, 2014, 07:52:47 PM
Think Moyes will be a good fit for Villa when Lerner buggers off - I know he's not as interested as he once was but he's invested a lot of money into Aston Villa - would have been interesting to see how you would have fared long term had it not been wasted on average dross by MON.

Our names are uninspiring, such is the nature of the big re-build that is needed. What might been an attractive job the summer Steve Clarke was appointed isn't no more - that summer we held numerous discussions with Ralf Rangnick; the job was more or less virtually his - this time round there isn't nobody of his calibre on the shortlist from what I can gather.

Pleased with our appointed of Terry Burton today.
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Post by: cheltenhamlion on May 13, 2014, 08:03:53 PM
Hey, it could be Terry Connor as manager!
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Post by: Somniloquism on May 13, 2014, 08:39:12 PM
The legendary Tim Sherwood is rumoured. He took a small club with limited resources to 6th and was then shabily treated by his Chairman the way the press are telling it.
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Post by: LeeB on May 13, 2014, 08:53:27 PM
The legendary Tim Sherwood is rumoured. He took a small club with limited resources to 6th and was then shabily treated by his Chairman the way the press are telling it.

It's funny isn't it, because I could have sworn he came across as a gobby idiot with a penchant for speaking before at least attempting to think.
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Post by: Dave on May 13, 2014, 09:06:44 PM
More points per match than any Spurs manager in history apparently.

Which would be impressive if any of the journalists spouting it stopped to think that it might just be because Spurs have been shit for most of the last 130 years.

Sorry, back to the woes of Albion.
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Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on May 13, 2014, 09:08:38 PM
Re the language thing and Mel v Pochettino, did I imagine it or did the stripeys ask Mel to go back to speaking in Spanish with an interpreter.

It's easy to criticise something like that unless you've tried it.

I've been over here 6 years now, and am pretty fluent. No problem arguing the toss with the equivalent of the HSE, or the management for the refinery I work at, but there's no way you'd get me standing in front of room of TV cameras and journalists waiting to pick over the bones of everything you do and don't say.

It's so easy to choose the wrong word, and nobody's going to check that that's what you meant. (See Benteke's interview where he says disgusted instead of horrified, and the way we've picked over that as an innocuous example.)

I'm sure Pinnechino is OK talking with the squad etc but, especially if he's not naturally comfortable doing the interviews I think it's fair enough.
Someone told me that Pochettino's English is perfectly adequate but he isn't completely fluent with some of the English football adages, turns of phrase and colloquiallisms, and doesn't want to get caught out by the English media and made to look a fool. Probably the same reason why the Boggies rumour that they would have preferred Mel to do the interpreter thing.
You'll understand that perfectly ViD!
(Wonder if anyone thought of getting an interpreter for Lambo?) 
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Post by: Simba on May 13, 2014, 10:12:50 PM
I have to say Liam, that it is a pleasure to read reasonable, intelligent debate with a 'rival' supporter. Makes a change from KRO.

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Post by: Richard E on May 13, 2014, 10:14:29 PM
I have to say Liam, that it is a pleasure to read reasonable, intelligent debate with a 'rival' supporter. Makes a change from KRO.



Yeah, far too reasonable and articulate to support one of the dark sides. Come on Liam, get yourself down the Villa, you know you love us really.
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Post by: Villa in Denmark on May 13, 2014, 10:22:14 PM
Understand it absolutely. (frankmosswasmyuncle)
It's one thing to make a faux pas in a conversation, where you can check that the right message, another one to cock up in a presser, especially in front of the British press pack, who at times just love to stick the boot into Johnny Foreigner for the slightest thing.

(unless your name's Jose McMoanio.)
Anyway back out neighbours - Malky Makay?
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Post by: Dave on May 13, 2014, 10:26:45 PM
Surely nailed on for Norwich isn't he?
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Post by: pauliewalnuts on May 13, 2014, 10:45:41 PM
More points per match than any Spurs manager in history apparently.

Which would be impressive if any of the journalists spouting it stopped to think that it might just be because Spurs have been shit for most of the last 130 years.

Sorry, back to the woes of Albion.

I saw Sherwood's final press conference on Sky tonight, and he was talking about expectations at Spurs and how they "expect" CL football despite having qualified for it for once, and how people need to realise it's not going to happen with the players they have, and sixth is "about right".

I found myself agreeing with him.
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Post by: ADVILLAFAN on May 14, 2014, 08:59:25 AM
Think Moyes will be a good fit for Villa when Lerner buggers off - I know he's not as interested as he once was but he's invested a lot of money into Aston Villa - would have been interesting to see how you would have fared long term had it not been wasted on average dross by MON.


Just shows that you as a Baggies fan understand more about MON wasting obscene amounts of money on average players than quite a few Villa fans and all of the media!
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Somniloquism on May 14, 2014, 09:00:40 AM
I saw Sherwood's final press conference on Sky tonight, and he was talking about expectations at Spurs and how they "expect" CL football despite having qualified for it for once, and how people need to realise it's not going to happen with the players they have, and sixth is "about right".

I found myself agreeing with him.

Normally I would agree, however after having spent £120 million on players in the summer, the pressure was always on to finish higher, especially as their underperforming neighbours still seem to do it and Everton managed to get one place higher on a fifth of the budget.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Dave on May 14, 2014, 02:33:02 PM
More points per match than any Spurs manager in history apparently.

Which would be impressive if any of the journalists spouting it stopped to think that it might just be because Spurs have been shit for most of the last 130 years.

Sorry, back to the woes of Albion.

I saw Sherwood's final press conference on Sky tonight, and he was talking about expectations at Spurs and how they "expect" CL football despite having qualified for it for once, and how people need to realise it's not going to happen with the players they have, and sixth is "about right".

I found myself agreeing with him.
It would be a lot easier to agree if he hadn't said three months earlier:

"If the season was to end tomorrow the chairman wouldn't be too happy because we're fifth. The final league position has to meet the expectations of the club otherwise it's 'Goodbye Charlie'. The club need to finish in fourth place. Anything other than that is going to be a disappointment" - Tim Sherwood, January 19.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Liam_Baggies on May 14, 2014, 07:18:55 PM
I have to say Liam, that it is a pleasure to read reasonable, intelligent debate with a 'rival' supporter. Makes a change from KRO.



Yeah, far too reasonable and articulate to support one of the dark sides. Come on Liam, get yourself down the Villa, you know you love us really.

I'm not arrogant enough!  ;D
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: cheltenhamlion on May 14, 2014, 07:52:04 PM
You are, you have an Olbiyun way! 
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Liam_Baggies on May 14, 2014, 08:10:34 PM
We won the European Cup ya know!!  ;D
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: The Left Side on May 15, 2014, 12:17:36 AM
We won the European Cup ya know!!  ;D

Liam's like a breath of fresh air compared to wipethatsnot in the Blose thread.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: tomd2103 on May 15, 2014, 01:29:37 AM
Re the language thing and Mel v Pochettino, did I imagine it or did the stripeys ask Mel to go back to speaking in Spanish with an interpreter.

It's easy to criticise something like that unless you've tried it.

I've been over here 6 years now, and am pretty fluent. No problem arguing the toss with the equivalent of the HSE, or the management for the refinery I work at, but there's no way you'd get me standing in front of room of TV cameras and journalists waiting to pick over the bones of everything you do and don't say.

It's so easy to choose the wrong word, and nobody's going to check that that's what you meant. (See Benteke's interview where he says disgusted instead of horrified, and the way we've picked over that as an innocuous example.)

I'm sure Pinnechino is OK talking with the squad etc but, especially if he's not naturally comfortable doing the interviews I think it's fair enough.
Someone told me that Pochettino's English is perfectly adequate but he isn't completely fluent with some of the English football adages, turns of phrase and colloquiallisms, and doesn't want to get caught out by the English media and made to look a fool. Probably the same reason why the Boggies rumour that they would have preferred Mel to do the interpreter thing.
You'll understand that perfectly ViD!
(Wonder if anyone thought of getting an interpreter for Lambo?)

Maybe the case, but I have my suspicions.  I suspect that Pochettino and subsequent others have worked out that the British press soon lose patience with everything going through an interpreter and therefore tend to cut interviews and questioning short.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: cdbullyweefan on May 16, 2014, 06:57:28 PM
Baggies have released a load of players including... Liam Ridgewell. That's them fucked.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: cheltenhamlion on May 16, 2014, 07:33:52 PM
Well, if no takeover happens quickly we could do worse than having him in the squad.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: cdbullyweefan on May 16, 2014, 07:35:31 PM
You've finally flipped. I told you if you kept eating fagits and mushuy pays that your brain would get mangled.

Look what happened to Jane.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Richard E on May 16, 2014, 07:41:34 PM
Well, if no takeover happens quickly we could do worse than having him in the squad.

To be fair it would give all our other players a confidence boost - 'Well, I might be crap but at least I'm not as bad as him.'
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Somniloquism on May 16, 2014, 08:40:06 PM
Nathan Baker would be happy that someone else will take the most OG's in a season away from him.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: stuart r on May 20, 2014, 11:23:30 AM
He does a good job though so perhaps he deserves the money? Keeping a club like Albion in the PL is no mean task.

Does he? He makes a profit every now and again by his persistent corner cutting which so very nearly got us relegated this year - alongside some nonsensical appointments - Pepe Mel (despite how much I love him) and Dave McDonough.


Classic 'Albioning' there, absolutely textbook... Post after post of praise for Pepe Mel but quite comfortable to totally contradict that and describe his appointment as nonsensical when it suits. Good work.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Richard E on May 20, 2014, 11:26:16 AM
Adrian Goldberg tweeted yesterday that there was good news for Albion fans - Paul Lambert was staying at Villa.

That will be the Paul Lambert whose poor Villa team finished above Albion (who have NO manager), whose poor Villa team took 4 points off Albion last season and whose poor Villa team Albion have not beaten in 4 attempts since he became Manager, I take it?
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: cdbullyweefan on May 20, 2014, 12:39:30 PM
Sounds like Craig Gardner will be signing for West Brom.

Pleased for him. Nice that he's signing for another club that he used to support as a boy.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: dave.woodhall on May 20, 2014, 06:18:34 PM
Adrian Goldberg tweeted yesterday that there was good news for Albion fans - Paul Lambert was staying at Villa.

That will be the Paul Lambert whose poor Villa team finished above Albion (who have NO manager), whose poor Villa team took 4 points off Albion last season and whose poor Villa team Albion have not beaten in 4 attempts since he became Manager, I take it?

Adrian Goldberg works for which radio station again?
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Liam_Baggies on May 20, 2014, 06:34:50 PM
Classic 'Albioning' there, absolutely textbook... Post after post of praise for Pepe Mel but quite comfortable to totally contradict that and describe his appointment as nonsensical when it suits. Good work.

I don't see the problem?

Pepe Mel was the wrong man at that time - I don't think many Albion fans will disagree with that.

As a person, many Albion fans, myself included adored him. He was everything I want in a West Bromwich Albion head coach - and despite being the wrong man at that time, he received support from our fan base that I've never seen afforded to any other Albion head coach.

Nothing contradictory at all.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: cheltenhamlion on May 20, 2014, 06:48:59 PM
I agree with that, Liam. It is incredibly rare for you lot to actually support a manager!
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Richard E on May 20, 2014, 07:14:31 PM
Adrian Goldberg tweeted yesterday that there was good news for Albion fans - Paul Lambert was staying at Villa.

That will be the Paul Lambert whose poor Villa team finished above Albion (who have NO manager), whose poor Villa team took 4 points off Albion last season and whose poor Villa team Albion have not beaten in 4 attempts since he became Manager, I take it?

Adrian Goldberg works for which radio station again?

Hmm. Let me think, who could it possibly be?...
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Liam_Baggies on May 20, 2014, 07:16:16 PM
I agree with that, Liam. It is incredibly rare for you lot to actually support a manager!

Not really. Ever since the appointment of Megson our managers have been well supported by fans.

The last one to face such vitriol was probably Gould but I wasn't even born then.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Dave Cooper please on May 20, 2014, 08:35:37 PM
I agree with that, Liam. It is incredibly rare for you lot to actually support a manager!

Not really. Ever since the appointment of Megson our managers have been well supported by fans.

The last one to face such vitriol was probably Gould but I wasn't even born then.

That's the difference. Olbiyun fans are happy with mediocrity and occasionally finishing above us, we expect a bit more than that.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: dave.woodhall on May 29, 2014, 06:09:41 PM
Have I missed something and have they got a new manager yet? Only if it was us the local media would be apoplectic about our dithering
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: cheltenhamlion on May 29, 2014, 06:20:14 PM
St Jeremy will be hard at work trying to find someone to do it on the cheap. And whoever it is that gets it, they definitely won't want him sacked 5 minutes later.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: peter w on May 30, 2014, 02:30:33 PM
Have I missed something and have they got a new manager yet? Only if it was us the local media would be apoplectic about our dithering

Well yes. But it isn't us. It's them. Another reality check for the Zooplankton led 'we know what we are' brigade.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Liam_Baggies on May 31, 2014, 11:38:23 PM
Have I missed something and have they got a new manager yet? Only if it was us the local media would be apoplectic about our dithering

The club said it would be a four week process. They apparently have their final shortlist.

Dread to think who it includes - every man and his dog seems to have been ruled out so far.

St Jeremy will be hard at work trying to find someone to do it on the cheap. And whoever it is that gets it, they definitely won't want him sacked 5 minutes later.

In fairness to Jeremy, he's only ever sacked two managers in his 12 years at the club.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Louzie0 on May 31, 2014, 11:46:08 PM
High time he sacked another one, then.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Villa in Denmark on June 01, 2014, 10:51:40 AM
Have I missed something and have they got a new manager yet? Only if it was us the local media would be apoplectic about our dithering

The club said it would be a four week process. They apparently have their final shortlist.

Dread to think who it includes - every man and his dog seems to have been ruled out so far.

St Jeremy will be hard at work trying to find someone to do it on the cheap. And whoever it is that gets it, they definitely won't want him sacked 5 minutes later.

In fairness to Jeremy, he's only ever sacked two managers in his 12 years at the club.

To use a much used phrase "There's lies, damned lies and statistics."

Quote from: Wikipedia
The following month Megson, whose contract was due to end in June 2005, announced that he would not sign a new deal if the club offered one. The board chose to interpret this as a resignation, and on 26 October Megson was dismissed.[9] A settlement for the remainder of his contract was reached in November 2004.[10]

Quote from: Wikipedia
The majority of fans were still loyal to Di Matteo, but after a 0–3 defeat to Manchester City on 5 February 2011, he was relieved of his duties with immediate effect,[14] and first-team coach Michael Appleton was appointed caretaker manager.[15] West Bromwich Albion finished the season in eleventh position.

Quote from: Wikipedia
Robson left the club "by mutual consent" on 18 September 2006, following a disappointing start to the season with The Baggies in 9th place in the Coca Cola Championship with only three wins from their first eight games.[60]

Quote from: Wikipedia
A further draw and four straight defeats followed and on 14 December 2013 Clarke was placed on gardening leave until May 2014, after a 1-0 loss at Cardiff City.

Quote from: Wikipedia
Mel obtained his first win in English football after seven games, with a 2–1 success at Swansea City on 15 March 2014.[17] On 12 May 2014, one day after the end of the season, he left by mutual consent.[18]

Unless mutual consent isn't a euphemism for sacked around Junction 1.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Liam_Baggies on June 01, 2014, 03:17:26 PM
Clarke and Di Matteo are the only two the club claim to have sacked.

Megson's departure was treated as him resigning. Robson and Pepe Mel were very much mutual - Mel had a clause in his contract which allowed him to leave if both parties wanted too.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Villa in Denmark on June 01, 2014, 09:44:31 PM
Clarke and Di Matteo are the only two the club claim to have sacked.

Megson's departure was treated as him resigning. Robson and Pepe Mel were very much mutual - Mel had a clause in his contract which allowed him to leave if both parties wanted too.

Fair enough, although in my experience mutual consent tends to mean

Club "if we pay you £X,XXX,XXX will you go away and not come back?"
Manager "OK"

rather than protracted negotiations after the event.  You're still offski for not being good enough, and I doubt many managers, especially Robson, would ask to be paid off.

Megson did not complete his contract at the insistence of the board = sacked.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Villa in Denmark on June 01, 2014, 09:45:32 PM
The FA enquiry that wasn't happening report (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-birmingham-27654892)
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Somniloquism on June 14, 2014, 06:03:37 PM
Alan Irvine?

Hmmm.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Clampy on June 14, 2014, 06:04:51 PM
They've appointed Alan Irvine. I suspect the stripeyfilth will not be amused.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Liam_Baggies on June 14, 2014, 06:05:58 PM
Horrific appointment.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Gareth on June 14, 2014, 06:13:11 PM
Suspect Lambert has just gone to 2nd favourite to be 1st Prem mgr sacked....he likes. pound land appt does that Baggies chairman.

Downing is indestructible - top of the fixtures & fittings list
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Nev on June 14, 2014, 06:30:16 PM
I know the name but for the life of me, I can't place the bloke.

Oh well, Google it is.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Nev on June 14, 2014, 06:38:14 PM
Oh, THAT Alan Irvine.

Oh....
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Liam_Baggies on June 14, 2014, 06:45:04 PM
My 'second team' as such is Sheffield Wednesday.

Watching him at the Owls was bad enough - to have him at our place? Even worse.

I just hope and pray that I'm living a dream and when I wake up in the morning we never really sacked Pepe Mel.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Richard E on June 14, 2014, 06:51:27 PM
I'm sure Call Me Franksie and his mates on WM will give Albion the same sort of stick they'd give us if we'd done this.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 14, 2014, 06:55:55 PM
They've appointed Alan Irvine. I suspect the stripeyfilth will not be amused.

Who?
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 14, 2014, 07:00:09 PM
They've appointed Alan Irvine. I suspect the stripeyfilth will not be amused.

Who?

Stripeyfilth. Play on the highest ground in the country. Would have won the league in 1979 if it hadn't turned cold. Know what they am.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Toronto Villa on June 14, 2014, 07:47:16 PM
That's one relegation spot looked after. Liam will need to take a bottle of happy pills to spin this into anything positive.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 14, 2014, 07:55:44 PM
They've appointed Alan Irvine. I suspect the stripeyfilth will not be amused.

Who?

Stripeyfilth. Play on the highest ground in the country. Would have won the league in 1979 if it hadn't turned cold. Know what they am.

Arf.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Flamingo Lane on June 14, 2014, 07:58:28 PM
His managerial record (at Preston and Sheffield Wednesday) is awful.  This is a really strange appointment.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 14, 2014, 08:33:48 PM
My 'second team' as such is Sheffield Wednesday.

Watching him at the Owls was bad enough - to have him at our place? Even worse.

I just hope and pray that I'm living a dream and when I wake up in the morning we never really sacked Pepe Mel.

Imagine how we felt when we appointed McLeish.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Lizz on June 14, 2014, 08:41:19 PM
According to Pat Murphy on R5 earlier, there will be some face saving opinions in the days ahead. Tim Sherwood wanted to bring in Les Ferdinand and someone else; wages were an issue.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: LeeB on June 15, 2014, 10:13:29 PM
I suppose having a 'head coach' gets round having to pay manager sized wages.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: nodge on June 16, 2014, 02:29:54 PM
I saw a few of them interviewed on SSN on Saturday outside a pub, presumably before the England game.  They all seemed to have wanted someone called Tim Sharewood as manager?
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: cheltenhamlion on June 16, 2014, 02:48:17 PM
They seem to have decided St Jeremy is a twat now at least.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on June 16, 2014, 02:51:20 PM
They seem to have decided St Jeremy is a twat now at least.

Surely they've known that for years?
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: cheltenhamlion on June 16, 2014, 04:55:03 PM
Nah, there was a time not long back where they believed themselves to be the best run football club on the planet.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Richard E on June 16, 2014, 05:04:36 PM
Nah, there was a time not long back where they believed themselves to be the best run football club on the planet.

Indeed, the shining example to all the rest of us.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Liam_Baggies on June 16, 2014, 07:42:08 PM
They seem to have decided St Jeremy is a twat now at least.

For sections of our supporters he has always been viewed as a twat.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: andrew08 on June 16, 2014, 08:14:12 PM
They seem to have decided St Jeremy is a twat now at least.

For sections of our supporters he has always been viewed as a twat.

I for one am beginning to warm to him. I like his style.....
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Villa in Denmark on June 16, 2014, 09:15:34 PM
They seem to have decided St Jeremy is a twat now at least.

For sections of our supporters he has always been viewed as a twat.

I for one am beginning to warm to him. I like his style.....

He's a top bloke. Doug taught him everything he knows about running a club.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 16, 2014, 11:09:29 PM
They seem to have decided St Jeremy is a twat now at least.

Mind you, I can also remember us thinking Randy was the best chairman out there.

Fast forward now, the near total disengagement that began with the most gobsmacking managerial appointment in the history of our club, the funny "I'm offski, just like the Shammanites, ta-ra" statement and it looks a bit different.

Mind you, I suppose at least it's not boring.

Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on June 17, 2014, 01:05:31 PM
Could turn out to be a great appointment for us. I was struggling to think of three teams who could prevent us from being relegated. Now WBA can join Leicester and Burnley.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: andrew08 on June 17, 2014, 01:12:03 PM
Hull. West Ham, QPR... 3 more
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on June 17, 2014, 01:13:01 PM
Hull. West Ham, QPR... 3 more

Ha! I like your optimism!
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on June 17, 2014, 01:19:25 PM
I was thinking this, can only see West Brom, Burnley and possibly Sunderland being worse than us.

Suppose Newcastle ended the season very poorly too.

Sunderland will probably be okay under Poyet, but like West Brom they've let most of their team go and need loads of replacements.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Flamingo Lane on June 17, 2014, 08:41:52 PM
Could turn out to be a great appointment for us. I was struggling to think of three teams who could prevent us from being relegated. Now WBA can join Leicester and Burnley.

I think Leicester could do quite well.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Gareth on June 18, 2014, 10:02:15 AM
I see Tesco are in pole position to sign Lescott....that should cause a few reactions :-) obv investing the Anelka wage pot
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: LeeB on June 18, 2014, 02:43:39 PM
My old collegue posted this picture of himself at the ground yesterday on Facebook (it's not come out the best)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t1.0-9/10447037_10204284024167843_2183322235923991536_n.jpg)

He's a Newcastle fan, but the reason he was there was because like me he's a phone engineer, and the volume of calls to complain about the appointment of Irvine had knocked the system over.

*snigger*
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Liam_Baggies on June 18, 2014, 06:13:30 PM
I see Tesco are in pole position to sign Lescott....that should cause a few reactions :-) obv investing the Anelka wage pot

That's intriguing for a number of reasons.

1. He's a very good player and will undoubtedly improve our squad.

2. It's a signal of intent that the club will look to improve the squad with proven quality.

3. It is very rare to see us openly talking about a player in public - infact, it is completely new territory - it's something we never do. I do have a feeling the club know they haven't a chance of signing Lescott but have released such information just to quell the fans anger against Jeremy Peace - especially at a time when he's looking to buy shares from many of them.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 18, 2014, 10:40:47 PM
Haha a load of them are threatening to send back their season tickets in protest at the new manager.

We know what they am.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Dr Butler on June 19, 2014, 09:24:13 AM
I see Tesco are in pole position to sign Lescott....that should cause a few reactions :-) obv investing the Anelka wage pot

That's intriguing for a number of reasons.

1. He's a very good player and will undoubtedly improve our squad.

2. It's a signal of intent that the club will look to improve the squad with proven quality.

3. It is very rare to see us openly talking about a player in public - infact, it is completely new territory - it's something we never do. I do have a feeling the club know they haven't a chance of signing Lescott but have released such information just to quell the fans anger

copyright Gold , Sullivan and Brady.....
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 19, 2014, 09:28:58 AM
3. It is very rare to see us openly talking about a player in public - infact, it is completely new territory - it's something we never do. I do have a feeling the club know they haven't a chance of signing Lescott but have released such information just to quell the fans anger against Jeremy Peace - especially at a time when he's looking to buy shares from many of them.

Lescott would be a decent signing, but does he really think that a free signing who will be 32 when the season kicks off is enough to placate anyone?
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Nev on June 19, 2014, 11:20:54 AM
3. It is very rare to see us openly talking about a player in public - infact, it is completely new territory - it's something we never do. I do have a feeling the club know they haven't a chance of signing Lescott but have released such information just to quell the fans anger against Jeremy Peace - especially at a time when he's looking to buy shares from many of them.

Lescott would be a decent signing, but does he really think that a free signing who will be 32 when the season kicks off is enough to placate anyone?


Without giving it the big ITK, Lescott is joining Sandwell. Subject to any last minute hitches like.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Somniloquism on June 19, 2014, 01:11:24 PM
How much will he be booed every game?
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: cdbullyweefan on June 19, 2014, 03:04:08 PM
Should be a good signing. Certainly Lescott compared to that Uruguayan donkey they had last year is a definite improvement. So much for the rumours that Joleon couldn't come back to the West Midlands or he'd be shot by gangsters.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: cdbullyweefan on June 19, 2014, 03:05:30 PM
My old collegue posted this picture of himself at the ground yesterday on Facebook (it's not come out the best)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t1.0-9/10447037_10204284024167843_2183322235923991536_n.jpg)

He's a Newcastle fan, but the reason he was there was because like me he's a phone engineer, and the volume of calls to complain about the appointment of Irvine had knocked the system over.

*snigger*

I'm assuming by the picture that he asked to remain anonymous?
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: LeeB on June 19, 2014, 04:07:53 PM
Wouldn't you?
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: cdbullyweefan on June 19, 2014, 06:50:37 PM
Fair point well made.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Clampy on June 21, 2014, 10:33:34 AM
I see stripeyfilth fans have suddenly become experts on centre halves since they signed Lescott.
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on June 21, 2014, 05:22:58 PM
Lescott would be a decent signing, but does he really think that a free signing who will be 32 when the season kicks off is enough to placate anyone?

I don't know - there is no denying that it is a good signing however and for that the club deserve credit.

The club have changed their tac slightly and are certainly appearing more open. We've had several interviews with Jeremy Peace in the last week when he's spent the last two years virtually anonymous until it comes to sacking a manager and leaving the replacement out to dry.

There was a fans shareholders meeting last week which has certainly been eye-opening. Peace and Jenkins know they have rubbed supporters up the wrong way and are planning courses of action to rectify their errors. They've even been taking PR lessons on how they can re-engage with supporters.

They gave a good response on Jeff Astle, honouring the Bomber, the pin-stripe kit and also acknowledged that their recruitment has been the wrong approach - we've relied on too many loans and short term contracts and as proved this summer, we've left ourselves horribly short.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Witton Warrior on June 21, 2014, 11:59:11 PM
We still having a chat with Liam about how well the Olbiun are doing then?
Good...
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Liam_Baggies on June 22, 2014, 10:40:36 AM
We still having a chat with Liam about how well the Olbiun are doing then?
Good...

Yous all love me...

..I think.  ;D
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Post by: The Laughing Policeman on June 22, 2014, 11:00:19 AM
On Harborne High St. at 6.00 am this morning helping to get stuff ready for Carnival when a bloke wearing a Tesco bag stopped his car and asked what was going on. I told him we're having a party to celebrate the arrival of their new manager.
Judging by the look on his face I don't think he was impressed. :)
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Post by: Witton Warrior on June 22, 2014, 03:12:27 PM
We still having a chat with Liam about how well the Olbiun are doing then?
Good...

Yous all love me...

..I think.  ;D

Nothing personal Liam old blade but I never feel comfortable with the "enemy" being reasonable on our forum - usually ends in tears...
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Post by: Lizz on June 22, 2014, 04:16:09 PM
More than 20 supporters gathered to protest. I'm guessing the total didn't reach 30.

http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/west-bromwich-albion-fc/2014/06/21/west-brom-fans-in-protest-outside-the-hawthorns/

Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Toronto Villa on June 22, 2014, 05:51:48 PM
Did they really put "Ay' we?" on a banner? My goodness they are so openly thick.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Des Little on June 22, 2014, 10:38:39 PM
Who's the hooded protester too ashamed to show his face? We need to know day we?
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Post by: Bren'd on June 23, 2014, 09:27:21 AM
Did they really put "Ay' we?" on a banner? My goodness they are so openly thick.

Just look at those apostrophe mistakes too.
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Post by: Chico Hamilton III on June 23, 2014, 10:48:38 AM
Did they really put "Ay' we?" on a banner? My goodness they are so openly thick.

I think it's a sarcastic nod towards towards a banner produced by the their Old Gold rivals.
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Post by: LeeB on June 23, 2014, 12:44:06 PM
On Harborne High St. at 6.00 am this morning helping to get stuff ready for Carnival when a bloke wearing a Tesco bag stopped his car and asked what was going on. I told him we're having a party to celebrate the arrival of their new manager.
Judging by the look on his face I don't think he was impressed. :)

Ace.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Toronto Villa on June 24, 2014, 01:24:28 PM
Did they really put "Ay' we?" on a banner? My goodness they are so openly thick.

I think it's a sarcastic nod towards towards a banner produced by the their Old Gold rivals.

See there's your problem. You are thinking like a Villa fan. A higher level of intelligence. I don't think they are bright enough to have thought of that.
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on June 24, 2014, 08:02:22 PM
The 'ay we' was initially a pisstake out of the Dingles who use the slogan 'Wolves ay we'.

Most people in the Black Country will use the phrase 'ay we' so I'm not all that fussed.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Bren'd on June 24, 2014, 10:29:55 PM
The 'ay we' was initially a pisstake out of the Dingles who use the slogan 'Wolves ay we'.

Most people in the Black Country will use the phrase 'ay we' so I'm not all that fussed.

....And the misuse of apostrophes?
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Liam_Baggies on June 25, 2014, 06:26:57 PM
The 'ay we' was initially a pisstake out of the Dingles who use the slogan 'Wolves ay we'.

Most people in the Black Country will use the phrase 'ay we' so I'm not all that fussed.

....And the misuse of apostrophes?

Where have I misused apostrophes?
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Witton Warrior on June 25, 2014, 07:47:01 PM
The 'ay we' was initially a pisstake out of the Dingles who use the slogan 'Wolves ay we'.

Most people in the Black Country will use the phrase 'ay we' so I'm not all that fussed.

....And the misuse of apostrophes?

Where have I misused apostrophes?

Yo ay but them did
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Liam_Baggies on June 25, 2014, 08:31:21 PM
I've just seen what he was referring too.

Loffin!
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: The Laughing Policeman on July 09, 2014, 11:13:56 AM
A Baggie mate showed me a picture of what's believed to be their new home shirt admittedly it's a mock up similar to the ones we got from Marshall about our new kit, but if it's true it'll be the end of the Tesco Bags song. :'(
(http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/3266/qj7r.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/856/qj7r.jpg/)
Just noticed, that looks suspiciously like a bit of Claret and Blue inside the collar.
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Post by: LeeB on July 09, 2014, 11:48:31 AM
A Baggie mate showed me a picture of what's believed to be their new home shirt admittedly it's a mock up similar to the ones we got from Marshall about our new kit, but if it's true it'll be the end of the Tesco Bags song. :'(
(http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/3266/qj7r.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/856/qj7r.jpg/)
Just noticed, that looks suspiciously like a bit of Claret and Blue inside the collar.


That's not a home shirt, that's just some other random teams unloved away kit.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 09, 2014, 04:15:26 PM
I'm going to have to get used to CheltenhamLion spending the whole season telling me how much he hates the "PIN Stripey Bastards".
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Des Little on July 09, 2014, 11:30:10 PM
I have it on very good authority that as a result of the furore kicked up over the pinstripes, they've made a u turn and will indeed be wearing traditional stripes again next season.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: cheltenhamlion on July 10, 2014, 07:39:47 AM
They can wear whatever they like, they'll still be a bunch of c***s.
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Post by: Tom_Mc9? on July 11, 2014, 11:08:19 AM
I have it on very good authority that as a result of the furore kicked up over the pinstripes, they've made a u turn and will indeed be wearing traditional stripes again next season.

Nope! Pinstripes and it's rubbish.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Des Little on July 11, 2014, 05:21:54 PM
I have it on very good authority that as a result of the furore kicked up over the pinstripes, they've made a u turn and will indeed be wearing traditional stripes again next season.

Nope! Pinstripes and it's rubbish.

My apologies. What a cock. You're right, it's shit. Oh well
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: spangley1812 on July 12, 2014, 02:43:07 PM
West Bromwich Albion have signed left-back Sebastien Pocognoli from Hannover 96 for an undisclosed fee
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Liam_Baggies on July 12, 2014, 08:13:27 PM
Our new kit is absolutely horrific.

Another ball up that his club has made in the last twelve months or more.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 12, 2014, 08:31:23 PM
Ain't modern football grand.

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“Speaking to some younger fans on Fathers’ Day tours at the ground they were slightly more enthusiastic, having seen the early prototype. And some fans will buy anything anyway.

Quote
However, it helped Albion hook in new sponsors QuickBooks, who were very enthusiastic about the new kit’s design because it was more sympathetic to their logo.
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Post by: Dave Cooper please on July 13, 2014, 01:12:02 AM
Our new kit is absolutely horrific.


My (where did it all go wrong!!!) Boggy supporting son actually quite likes the shirt. Maybe he is in a minority but as he says, Southampton fans have bought their red shirt, and the next shirt will be stripey and it's a fucking damn sight better than that bar code effort!
I like it just because it pisses off Albion fans.
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Post by: Toronto Villa on July 13, 2014, 01:30:53 AM
And some will still believe having Nike or Adidas or Puma design your kit solves all the problems.
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Post by: Damo70 on July 13, 2014, 12:42:45 PM
Ain't modern football grand.

Quote
“Speaking to some younger fans on Fathers’ Day tours at the ground they were slightly more enthusiastic, having seen the early prototype. And some fans will buy anything anyway.

Quote
However, it helped Albion hook in new sponsors QuickBooks, who were very enthusiastic about the new kit’s design because it was more sympathetic to their logo.

I think I can speak for all football fans when I say that the single most important thing in any new kit design is that it is 'sympathetic to the sponsors logo'.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Liam_Baggies on July 13, 2014, 03:12:05 PM
My (where did it all go wrong!!!) Boggy supporting son actually quite likes the shirt. Maybe he is in a minority but as he says, Southampton fans have bought their red shirt, and the next shirt will be stripey and it's a fucking damn sight better than that bar code effort!
I like it just because it pisses off Albion fans.

It would make a nice training shirt don't get me wrong.

But a home shirt? Do me a favour.

Owners/chairman should not mess with the history and traditions of a football club.

But of course, many of them don't give a **** cos they know some fans are saft enough to buy it.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Damo70 on July 13, 2014, 05:51:49 PM
The important thing is whether it has 'We know what we are' stitched into it somewhere.
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Post by: Chico Hamilton III on July 14, 2014, 09:29:12 AM
I was listening to Radio London on Saturday in the car and they were interviewing Paul Rees, who's Three Degrees book has just been published. Obviously it's about Regis, Cunningham and Batson at the Albion in the late 70s. God knows why he was being interviewed on Radio London but I laughed when he described Albion as a small provincial club.

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Post by: The Laughing Policeman on July 14, 2014, 09:57:52 AM
Pity he didn't mention that they have a very classy neighbour. ;D
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Post by: peter w on July 14, 2014, 06:28:07 PM
I was listening to Radio London on Saturday in the car and they were interviewing Paul Rees, who's Three Degrees book has just been published. Obviously it's about Regis, Cunningham and Batson at the Albion in the late 70s. God knows why he was being interviewed on Radio London but I laughed when he described Albion as a small provincial club.



To be honest local rivalries aside that is what they are.  They have history which sets them apart from other clubs but they are not a big club. They won't like it but Wolves are bigger and in the midlands I'd argue Forest and Derby are too.
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on July 14, 2014, 08:08:14 PM
The important thing is whether it has 'We know what we are' stitched into it somewhere.

The first I heard of that line was on Villa Talk the season you finished above us under Houllier.

It was OK as a wind up when we drew 1-1 at Villa Park but then Zoopla stuck their noses in with the banner and that god awful song then seemed to stick.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: peter w on July 14, 2014, 09:17:37 PM
The important thing is whether it has 'We know what we are' stitched into it somewhere.

The first I heard of that line was on Villa Talk the season you finished above us under Houllier.

It was OK as a wind up when we drew 1-1 at Villa Park but then Zoopla stuck their noses in with the banner and that god awful song then seemed to stick.

yeah it was all zooplas fault. You lot were bleating on and on about it when you were above us and no doubt will do if you're above us again at any point between game 1 and 38 next season. I can get the wind up bit but its only a wind up when you don't all believe it.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 14, 2014, 11:54:36 PM
So Zoopla gave Shane Long that t-shirt? Zoopla wrote on the match ball v Arsenal? Zoopla have your fans saying it to each other? Although not for last 6 months or so for some reason. Zoopla got your fans singing it for 8 minutes at VP a few months ago? Did Zoopla also make them forget the words to it for the next 80 minutes? Did Zoopla produce the t-shirts your fans used to wear that stated they knew what they were? Although lets be honest, everyone knows what someone wearing one of those t-shirts is.

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Post by: cheltenhamlion on July 15, 2014, 08:08:57 AM
Sorry Liam, but the chaps are correct. All of this nonsense being down to Zoopla is very hard to credit.
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on July 15, 2014, 05:46:50 PM
No it weren't all down to Zoopla.

That annoying bloody kit mon an all.

Anybody that actually believed that song it quite clearly an imbecile lets be honest.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on July 15, 2014, 06:03:44 PM
No it weren't all down to Zoopla.

That annoying bloody kit mon an all.

Anybody that actually believed that song it quite clearly an imbecile lets be honest.

You said it.
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on July 15, 2014, 06:28:35 PM
No it weren't all down to Zoopla.

That annoying bloody kit mon an all.

Anybody that actually believed that song it quite clearly an imbecile lets be honest.

You said it.

What I meant was Zoopla first produced the banner and then it escalated with the former kitman producing vests and tampering with the ball. In the meantime some of our moronic supporters believed it.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 15, 2014, 06:35:53 PM
No it weren't all down to Zoopla.

That annoying bloody kit mon an all.

Anybody that actually believed that song it quite clearly an imbecile lets be honest.

You said it.

What I meant was Zoopla first produced the banner and then it escalated with the former kitman producing vests and tampering with the ball. In the meantime some of our moronic supporters believed it.

Again, I entirely agree with you.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: spangley1812 on July 19, 2014, 06:54:19 AM
West Bromwich Albion have signed Nigeria striker Brown Ideye for an undisclosed fee, believed to be around £10m.

The Baggies announced the arrival of the 25-year-old Dynamo Kiev player on Friday, saying they had broken the club's record.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Dr Butler on July 19, 2014, 10:39:24 AM
Trouble in paradise....Lescott not happy according to the Daily Mirror....
Broken promises about transfers and lack of clubcard points.......:)
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on July 19, 2014, 02:06:21 PM
Trouble in paradise....Lescott not happy according to the Daily Mirror....
Broken promises about transfers and lack of clubcard points.......:)

And that is a load of shite.

It claimed that we weren't making transfers or whatever - despite us making our 5th transfer addition last night - breaking the clubs record transfer fee at roughly the same time of that article.

It was rubbished by local media - even those who work under the same company as The Mirror. And even Lescott himself posted a tweet that suggested otherwise.

I expect these stories about Lescott to remain throughout the remainder of his time with us. Easy story for the gutter press in this country.
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Post by: Dr Butler on July 19, 2014, 02:40:39 PM
I know its shite Liam...its the Mirror....nuff said.
have a good day.....UTV
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Post by: LeeB on July 20, 2014, 10:49:13 AM
It's only taken about 13 years for their transfer record to match ours when be bought Angel. Intriguingly, this is roughly the same time delay their supporters fashion sensabilities are behind the rest of the general public.
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Post by: Dave on July 25, 2014, 11:15:48 AM
This kind of thing always goes well...

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West Brom head coach Alan Irvine has revealed that he had not seen record signing Brown Ideye live before signing him.
Ideye joined West Brom in a club record deal in the region of £10million last week from Dynamo Kiev as Irvine looked to bolster his attacking options.

Nigeria international Ideye scored 33 goals in 74 games during his time in Ukraine and Irvine admits he was forced to rely on his scouts and video footage to make sure the striker was the right man for the club.

"I don't know much about Brown Ideye," said Irvine. "I've not seen him live, but people we trust have done.

"It's not necessarily something that is detrimental to me not to have seen him live, though ideally I would like to because that's how I like to do my work.

"But we've done our research on him and what we have done is found decent players in the past in this way."
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Post by: Dr Butler on July 25, 2014, 11:53:45 AM
This kind of thing always goes well...

Quote

"But we've done our research on him and what we have done is found decent players in the past in this way.
"

who exactly ? 
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Damo70 on July 25, 2014, 12:05:11 PM
This kind of thing always goes well...

Quote

"But we've done our research on him and what we have done is found decent players in the past in this way.
"

who exactly ?

Made me smile. Surely 'found decent players' is a Dwight Yorke situation. If I spend ten million quid on a mansion I wouldn't exactly describe it as 'found a decent house'. I would be a tad disappointed if I went on the word of 'people that I trusted' and found out it only had two bedrooms and no garden.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Liam_Baggies on July 26, 2014, 10:55:07 AM
who exactly ?

Claudio Yacob, Youssouf Mulumbu, Jonas Olsson, Graham Dorrans, Morgan Amalfitano

Just a few examples of players scouted on foreign shores without the head coach not having seem them play live.

The players listed above have gone on to be important cogs in our wheels.

All those players put together probably cost us underneath £500,000.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Liam_Baggies on July 26, 2014, 10:57:31 AM
This kind of thing always goes well...

Quote
West Brom head coach Alan Irvine has revealed that he had not seen record signing Brown Ideye live before signing him.
Ideye joined West Brom in a club record deal in the region of £10million last week from Dynamo Kiev as Irvine looked to bolster his attacking options.

Nigeria international Ideye scored 33 goals in 74 games during his time in Ukraine and Irvine admits he was forced to rely on his scouts and video footage to make sure the striker was the right man for the club.

"I don't know much about Brown Ideye," said Irvine. "I've not seen him live, but people we trust have done.

"It's not necessarily something that is detrimental to me not to have seen him live, though ideally I would like to because that's how I like to do my work.

"But we've done our research on him and what we have done is found decent players in the past in this way."

At what point was he meant to have seen him play live, Dave?

We appointed Alan Irvine in June - the only football being played then was the World Cup.

If we restricted ourselves just to players who our head coaches have seen live then we're narrowing our options severely - we're in 2014 now, not 1974.

I have no problems with AI not seeing him play live because I know he'll have been scouted thoroughly.
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Post by: Clampy on July 26, 2014, 02:32:52 PM
This kind of thing always goes well...

Quote
West Brom head coach Alan Irvine has revealed that he had not seen record signing Brown Ideye live before signing him.
Ideye joined West Brom in a club record deal in the region of £10million last week from Dynamo Kiev as Irvine looked to bolster his attacking options.

Nigeria international Ideye scored 33 goals in 74 games during his time in Ukraine and Irvine admits he was forced to rely on his scouts and video footage to make sure the striker was the right man for the club.

"I don't know much about Brown Ideye," said Irvine. "I've not seen him live, but people we trust have done.

"It's not necessarily something that is detrimental to me not to have seen him live, though ideally I would like to because that's how I like to do my work.

"But we've done our research on him and what we have done is found decent players in the past in this way."

At what point was he meant to have seen him play live, Dave?

We appointed Alan Irvine in June - the only football being played then was the World Cup.

If we restricted ourselves just to players who our head coaches have seen live then we're narrowing our options severely - we're in 2014 now, not 1974.

I have no problems with AI not seeing him play live because I know he'll have been scouted thoroughly.

If he turns out to be rubbish, who do you think fans will blame first?

Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Liam_Baggies on July 26, 2014, 02:57:53 PM
It won't be Alan Irvine I can tell you that.

One thing that we haven't thrown at head coaches is that their signings are poor because we know that they have very little say in terms of recruitment.
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Post by: peter w on July 26, 2014, 03:12:27 PM
Eh? Well who does then?
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Post by: Clampy on July 26, 2014, 03:16:41 PM
It won't be Alan Irvine I can tell you that.

One thing that we haven't thrown at head coaches is that their signings are poor because we know that they have very little say in terms of recruitment.

Oh come on, you'll get on the manager's back regardless, so he'll carry the can. It's the way it works.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Liam_Baggies on July 26, 2014, 03:20:12 PM
Our recruitment team which is now lead by Terry Burton.

It was previously run by Dan Ashworth.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Liam_Baggies on July 26, 2014, 03:23:27 PM
Oh come on, you'll get on the manager's back regardless, so he'll carry the can. It's the way it works.

No it won't. Irvine will carry the can for our poor performances.

The board and recruitment team will carry the can for poor signings.

Steve Clarke was being criticised in and around the time of his sacking but he was never was criticised for the signings because those issues were out of his hands.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Clampy on July 26, 2014, 03:28:20 PM
Oh come on, you'll get on the manager's back regardless, so he'll carry the can. It's the way it works.

The board and recruitment team will carry the can for poor signings.

No they won't. Jeremy Peace will still be there and so I suspect Terry Burton will be long after Alan Irvine has gone.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: peter w on July 26, 2014, 03:56:21 PM
I still don't believe the manager/head-coach has no input into the players that he wants.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Liam_Baggies on July 26, 2014, 04:13:10 PM
No they won't. Jeremy Peace will still be there and so I suspect Terry Burton will be long after Alan Irvine has gone.

My apologies. I thought you were suggesting that the fans would blame Irvine for the poor recruitment.

And yes, you're right quite right. Errors from those above Irvine seems his fail. Just like how we left Clarke hopelessly exposed and then panic bought although last seasons recruitment was littered with in-fighting conflicts - conflicts which have now been removed.

I still don't believe the manager/head-coach has no input into the players that he wants.

Irvine can make recommendations - I think he recommended the signing of Lescott and the club went through with it.

Usually the head coach is provided with a list of players and he'll pick one from the footage and reports given to him.

Or the head coach will ask for a certain position to be strengthened and then the recruitment team will go and find a player to suit the head coaches needs.

You will very rarely see a player panic brought because they have to be scouted for around six to twelve months before we make our move.
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Post by: Damo70 on July 26, 2014, 05:25:00 PM
I think Lescott is an excellent signing. I also see some sense in the structure of the club. In fact, some people on here have suggested our club would have been in a better situation if we had gone down that road. But I think Clarke and possibly Di Matteo were binned too quickly. Also, with the structure of having a head coach as opposed to a manager you are limiting the choice of candidates because some will not want to work like that. Hodgson was probably perfect because he was used to that style of working from his time abroad and he is good at his job. But Alan Irvine for me is not a coach or a manager. He is a number two. Time will tell but I think he is a dead man walking. Although admittedly you could say that about every manager, but I think his clock is ticking faster than most.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Clampy on July 27, 2014, 10:26:18 AM
No they won't. Jeremy Peace will still be there and so I suspect Terry Burton will be long after Alan Irvine has gone.

My apologies. I thought you were suggesting that the fans would blame Irvine for the poor recruitment.


That's what I was suggesting as well and it will happen. I just can't get my head round a manager having players chosen for him and getting the boot if it don't work out, it's nonsense.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: SoccerHQ on July 27, 2014, 12:54:05 PM
Oh come on, you'll get on the manager's back regardless, so he'll carry the can. It's the way it works.

No it won't. Irvine will carry the can for our poor performances.

The board and recruitment team will carry the can for poor signings.

Steve Clarke was being criticised in and around the time of his sacking but he was never was criticised for the signings because those issues were out of his hands.

The board signed the likes of Sessegnon and Anchiebe then, really? No way was Anelka a board signing either given Clarke coached him at Chelsea.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 27, 2014, 01:14:32 PM

You will very rarely see a player panic brought because they have to be scouted for around six to twelve months before we make our move.

And then you signed Lugano?
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Damo70 on July 27, 2014, 02:19:54 PM

You will very rarely see a player panic brought because they have to be scouted for around six to twelve months before we make our move.

And then you signed Lugano?

Who put in the most memorable performance by an opposition defender at Villa Park since Torben Piechnik for Liverpool in 1992.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Liam_Baggies on July 27, 2014, 03:50:02 PM
And then you signed Lugano?

Last season was different because we had the infighting from Garlick & McDonough.

McDonough came in as an analyist and then proceeded to go well beyond his remit - even attempting to coach.

Lugano, Sessegnon and Anichebe are believed to be his signings.

Dan Ashworth had scouted Lugano some seasons ago and stated he was in decline - he even had an appalling Confederations Cup but McDonough signed him regardless.

We sacked McDonough last season and have reverted back to the successful model which Ashworth set up and one which most of us trust.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Liam_Baggies on July 27, 2014, 03:55:23 PM
The board signed the likes of Sessegnon and Anchiebe then, really? No way was Anelka a board signing either given Clarke coached him at Chelsea.

Yes - and may I add we over spent on both of them.

Last summers recruitment was a car crash largely due to the boardroom struggles and constant corner cutting. We left ourselves incredibly short and needed to over-spend to get players in.

Previously, over spending or certainly the final night in August is something we've never done.

As for Anelka - you're right, he was a recommendation by Steve Clarke. And what a **** he proved out to be. Clarke's other recommendation was Soloman Kalou.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Damo70 on July 27, 2014, 03:56:13 PM
And then you signed Lugano?

Last season was different because we had the infighting from Garlick & McDonough.

McDonough came in as an analyist and then proceeded to go well beyond his remit - even attempting to coach.

Lugano, Sessegnon and Anichebe are believed to be his signings.

Dan Ashworth had scouted Lugano some seasons ago and stated he was in decline - he even had an appalling Confederations Cup but McDonough signed him regardless.

We sacked McDonough last season and have reverted back to the successful model which Ashworth set up and one which most of us trust.


We are Villa fans Liam. We don't understand the meaning of the word 'infighting'. I am sure you are very aware of the fine example of harmony that our coaching set up has displayed in recent years. ;)
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Liam_Baggies on July 27, 2014, 05:01:18 PM
Haven't two recently sacked coaches been doing a bit of 'in-fighting'?  :D
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Damo70 on July 27, 2014, 05:17:26 PM
Haven't two recently sacked coaches been doing a bit of 'in-fighting'?  :D

To be fair I don't believe they were fighting with each other. On the downside they did however appear to be fighting with everyone else at the club! I like your posts Liam and you seem a top bloke so I feel guilty by saying these two words to you. I feel cruel. But seriously, ALAN IRVINE??? If I knew you personally I would have come round your house and taken all your belts and shoe laces off you the day that news was announced. ;)
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Liam_Baggies on July 27, 2014, 06:10:58 PM
To be fair I don't believe they were fighting with each other. On the downside they did however appear to be fighting with everyone else at the club! I like your posts Liam and you seem a top bloke so I feel guilty by saying these two words to you. I feel cruel. But seriously, ALAN IRVINE??? If I knew you personally I would have come round your house and taken all your belts and shoe laces off you the day that news was announced. ;)

Thank you - I have to say that this is a much better forum than Villa Talk although Vile Talk may be more appropriate.

I'm still perplexed as to why we have appointed somebody who has struggled not only in the Championship but in league one too. The appointment made very little sense but our football club runs with the ethos of coaching and improvement and those are apparently areas where Alan Irvine excel. Whether he can translate his good coaching into results is another matter but given he has struggled at both Sheffield Wednesday and Preston, in the Championship and league one, I can't say I am too optimistic.

I really do wish we had kept Pepe Mel though - we've made some very solid signings which have excited me a little. I would have loved nothing more than to see them molded into the way Pepe believes football should be played which is exactly the type of football I want to see from West Bromwich Albion.

It's going to be a rocky ride for Alan Irvine and he seems a nice bloke - I hope he succeeds but I don't think he will.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Clampy on July 27, 2014, 06:17:18 PM
And then you signed Lugano?

Last season was different because we had the infighting from Garlick & McDonough.

McDonough came in as an analyist and then proceeded to go well beyond his remit - even attempting to coach.

Lugano, Sessegnon and Anichebe are believed to be his signings.

Dan Ashworth had scouted Lugano some seasons ago and stated he was in decline - he even had an appalling Confederations Cup but McDonough signed him regardless.

We sacked McDonough last season and have reverted back to the successful model which Ashworth set up and one which most of us trust.

That post summed up exactly what i'm getting at.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Dave Javu on August 07, 2014, 02:30:47 PM
Ideye Brown's agent seems to have sold poor Ideye a pup:

He tweeted: "Just completed my passport from the VAC center now, London here we come!!!!" a couple of hours ago.

Then, a few minutes later, he then tweets: "On my way to Birmingham yeeesssss!!!"

Imagine his face when reality bites.

Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Richard E on August 07, 2014, 02:36:11 PM
The next one will be "Whooppee!! Smethwick here I come!!!"
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on August 07, 2014, 02:36:44 PM
Ideye Brown's agent seems to have sold poor Ideye a pup:

He tweeted: "Just completed my passport from the VAC center now, London here we come!!!!" a couple of hours ago.

Then, a few minutes later, he then tweets: "On my way to Birmingham yeeesssss!!!"

Imagine his face when reality bites.



"Smerrick, lock up your daughters, here I come"


Edit
Me and Richard E must have thought the same thing at the same time...
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 07, 2014, 05:51:23 PM
Ideye Brown's agent seems to have sold poor Ideye a pup:

He tweeted: "Just completed my passport from the VAC center now, London here we come!!!!" a couple of hours ago.

Then, a few minutes later, he then tweets: "On my way to Birmingham yeeesssss!!!"

Imagine his face when reality bites.



"Smerrick, lock up your daughters, here I come"

I think it will be more a "WTF!!!!!!!!!!!"
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: cheltenhamlion on August 07, 2014, 05:59:13 PM
"Just got to Smethwick. Didn't realise people in England lived in shanty towns"
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Damo70 on August 07, 2014, 06:05:57 PM
You would have thought they would have told him that you can get a plane or a ship or a cab or a train or a combination of any of those from anywhere in the world and just ask to be taken to the pride of the Midlands and you will end up in Smethwick or Sandwell or West Brom or Handsworth or wherever it is they class as home. Then you wait until January, realise you have cocked up and ask for directions to Loftus Road. At that point you have a car and a stnav and can drive yourself. Although I believe some satnavs send you to from West Brom to London and then you end up in Cardiff for some reason.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Chris Jameson on August 08, 2014, 09:20:35 PM
I see Lee Hughes has joined Twitter. It's going as well as can be expected so far.

He's universally loved it seems.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: peter w on August 09, 2014, 12:26:25 AM
car-crash television
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 09, 2014, 12:36:05 AM
car-crash television

Probably not the best analogy.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: peter w on August 09, 2014, 12:45:51 AM
thought it apt
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 09, 2014, 12:49:31 AM
He only killed someone - why shouldn't you make a joke of it?
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Dave on August 21, 2014, 12:37:16 PM
If you think some of our signings are underwhelming, West Brom's strikeforce for the season will apparently be:

Saido Berahino
Ideye Brown
Victor Anichebe
Georgios Samaras
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Dave Cooper please on August 21, 2014, 02:45:18 PM
Wouldn't mind Berahino, bags of promise there.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Ads on August 21, 2014, 03:41:22 PM
This sounds a bit Newcastle fan-style, but seriously, an allocation of 900 for a 3pm Saturday game at Spurs? We know what tha' bin.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Nev on August 21, 2014, 03:48:45 PM
Saw Samaras in town today.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Damo70 on August 21, 2014, 05:16:01 PM
Saw Samaras in town today.

You could have calmed our fears and asked him in which diection he was heading. Dont get me wrong, I wouldnt mind abig striker on a short term deal until January. But Samaras? As my son has just so woderfully understated, He aintnthe best, is he?
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: astonvillan on August 21, 2014, 10:10:08 PM
This sounds a bit Newcastle fan-style, but seriously, an allocation of 900 for a 3pm Saturday game at Spurs? We know what tha' bin.

And they'll do well to sell it. Couldn't sell out the upper and lower last season, or the season before that despite it being their first away game of the season. And weren't those the two seasons when they were the Pride of the Midlands? Speaking of first away games, they've sold a quite pitiful 1500 for the trip to Southampton this Saturday, out of an allocation of 2200. Where do their fans vanish to when the club don't give them free travel?!
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Clampy on August 22, 2014, 10:25:48 AM
Wouldn't mind Berahino, bags of promise there.

Yes, i like him as well. He's not long signed a new contract there though.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Richard E on August 22, 2014, 03:41:24 PM
Wouldn't mind Berahino, bags of promise there.

Yes, i like him as well. He's not long signed a new contract there though.

It's all right, we'll pick him up in the fire sale when they get relegated.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: LeeB on August 22, 2014, 04:02:21 PM
Yeah, right, like they're gonna be in a relegation battle with Samaras and Anichebe up front.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: peter w on August 23, 2014, 12:14:12 AM
He only killed someone - why shouldn't you make a joke of it?

I actually hadn't.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on August 23, 2014, 12:52:16 AM
The next one will be "Whooppee!! Smethwick here I come!!!"

'Alighted at Rolfe Street.  Yippee.'
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: The Laughing Policeman on August 28, 2014, 10:02:44 AM
http://imageshack.com/a/hIwz/1
I came across this by accident whilst on a cultural tour of Amsterdam.
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Post by: Villan For Life on August 28, 2014, 10:35:38 AM
http://imageshack.com/a/hIwz/1
I came across this by accident whilst on a cultural tour of Amsterdam.

A Yam Yam sex shop? Stockists of flat caps, faggots, gray pays, A-Z's of Sandwell beauty spots and for their more adventurous clientele a studded collar for the whippet.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 28, 2014, 12:46:31 PM
I saw that while I was there and immediately texted it to various Black Country associates.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Bren'd on August 28, 2014, 01:46:02 PM
http://imageshack.com/a/hIwz/1
I came across this by accident whilst on a cultural tour of Amsterdam.

A Yam Yam sex shop? Stockists of flat caps, faggots, gray pays, A-Z's of Sandwell beauty spots and for their more adventurous clientele a studded collar for the whippet.

As real as life Blow up dolls which secrete as real as life Sterilized milk.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 14, 2014, 12:06:30 AM
1 win in their last 11 home games. Bottom 2. 23K today with a big away support. Do they still know what they are?
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 14, 2014, 01:37:15 AM
And remember how them signing Lescott was a genius move and fantastic signing, especially compared to Swiss Phil. How is that working out for them with 0 appearances so far from Jolene?
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Clampy on September 14, 2014, 09:51:32 AM
I'm not sure which end of the league table I like looking at most.
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Post by: cheltenhamlion on September 14, 2014, 10:23:37 AM
I am having lunch in the local today. I bet I don't hear a peep out of those pinstripey wankers.

They look like they are in for a long season don't they.

If QPR can just pop Man Ure into the relegation zone today it will round off a successful weekend.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Villa in Denmark on September 14, 2014, 11:36:40 AM
1 win in their last 11 home games. Bottom 2. 23K today with a big away support. Do they still know what they are?

Shit!
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: walsall villain on September 14, 2014, 11:46:13 AM
When do they launch their 2014 version of 'the great escape'?
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Villa in Denmark on September 14, 2014, 11:49:36 AM
When do they launch their 2014 version of 'the great escape'?
The 2014 version was "not quite falling fast enough!

Hopefully the 2015 version has "Cry me a river" as the theme tune.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Liam_Baggies on September 14, 2014, 02:05:52 PM
Irvine was a disaster waiting to happen - the alarm bells were there when he was appointed and there has been nothing to suggest we will look like a remotely decent side this season. Our forward play is pedestrian, our creativity is none existant, none of our new signings are apparently match fit and furthermore we are hopeless defensively.

Still, the players are happy and that's the main thing...
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: dave.woodhall on September 14, 2014, 02:08:47 PM
No, the main thing is that I'm happy.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Liam_Baggies on September 14, 2014, 02:26:18 PM
No, the main thing is that I'm happy.

You have every right to be.

Terrific start for Villa this season.

Hopefully some of your players can give ours a demonstration on what bollocks look like.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Godfrey Brian on September 14, 2014, 08:32:05 PM
No, the main thing is that I'm happy.

You have every right to be.

Terrific start for Villa this season.

Hopefully some of your players can give ours a demonstration on what bollocks look like.

Sorry Liam, the Baggies are giving everyone the best demonstration of bollocks we've seen for a few seasons at the moment!  ;)
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: peter w on September 14, 2014, 11:40:46 PM
I'm not sure which end of the league table I like looking at most.

Really?
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Damo70 on September 14, 2014, 11:46:23 PM
We all look really stupid now. We all wanted Mel Pepe as our manager this time last year and we all wanted Hazel Irvine this summer. Turns out we were probably wrong.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: dave.woodhall on September 14, 2014, 11:57:31 PM
We all look really stupid now. We all wanted Mel Pepe as our manager this time last year and we all wanted Hazel Irvine this summer. Turns out we were probably wrong.

And we all wanted Joleon Lescott.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Damo70 on September 15, 2014, 12:02:33 AM
I did want him actually. I also worked with a girl who grew up with him who confirmed rumours that his year out from football was due to him getting too friendly with the girlfriend of a not very nice character.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Clampy on September 15, 2014, 09:32:32 AM
I'm not sure which end of the league table I like looking at most.

Really?

Bearing in mind i've written that on an Albion thread, i thought you might of guessed i was being slightly mischievous.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: SoccerHQ on September 15, 2014, 10:14:54 AM
Irvine was a disaster waiting to happen - the alarm bells were there when he was appointed and there has been nothing to suggest we will look like a remotely decent side this season. Our forward play is pedestrian, our creativity is none existant, none of our new signings are apparently match fit and furthermore we are hopeless defensively.

Still, the players are happy and that's the main thing...

Sessegnon seems way out of favour, I'm not a huge fan of him (equivilant of an N'zogbia for us) but at least he's someone with a bit of pace who can run with the ball from midfield.

Can't see anything other than relegation for you lot. Ah well....
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: OzVilla on September 15, 2014, 11:29:16 AM
Looks like the two Alan's, Pardew and Irvine are in a fight to the death battle to win the sack race.

Who've you got your money on?
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: damon loves JT on September 15, 2014, 11:49:14 AM
I honestly hadn't even registered that they had a new manager. If i had ignored them for a couple more weeks I would have completely missed this latest one.

Albion managers are like those 'Star Trek' crew members in red jumpers you've never seen before, whose job is to get killed five minutes into the episode
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: QBVILLA on September 15, 2014, 11:53:50 AM
I did want him actually. I also worked with a girl who grew up with him who confirmed rumours that his year out from football was due to him getting too friendly with the girlfriend of a not very nice character.

Him and Matt Murray was the one I heard.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Clampy on September 15, 2014, 11:54:01 AM
Looks like the two Alan's, Pardew and Irvine are in a fight to the death battle to win the sack race.

Who've you got your money on?

I reckon Pardew might get the push if Hull beat them at the weekend. The other Alan will get a bit longer but will be replaced by barmy appointment.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Liam_Baggies on September 16, 2014, 02:19:48 PM
Irvine was a disaster waiting to happen - the alarm bells were there when he was appointed and there has been nothing to suggest we will look like a remotely decent side this season. Our forward play is pedestrian, our creativity is none existant, none of our new signings are apparently match fit and furthermore we are hopeless defensively.

Still, the players are happy and that's the main thing...

Sessegnon seems way out of favour, I'm not a huge fan of him (equivilant of an N'zogbia for us) but at least he's someone with a bit of pace who can run with the ball from midfield.

Can't see anything other than relegation for you lot. Ah well....

He is without doubt our best player but for some reason cannot get into a side which is so devoid of pace and creativity - especially with so few of our new attacking options available.

Sessegnon, alongside Mulumbu has always been one of the first names on my team sheet.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: joe_c on September 16, 2014, 04:11:07 PM
I honestly hadn't even registered that they had a new manager. If i had ignored them for a couple more weeks I would have completely missed this latest one.

Albion managers are like those 'Star Trek' crew members in red jumpers you've never seen before, whose job is to get killed five minutes into the episode

I've just had a look at a list of the incumbents on Wikipedia in search of the most fun and interesting fact about the Albion's manager and the fact that Sir Brian was in charge there for almost a season totally escaped my notice.

Anyway, the fun and interesting fact is that between 1975 and 1988, the first names of their managers reads thus: Johnny, Ronnie, John, Ron, Ronnie, Ron, Johnny, Nobby, Ron, Ron and the sequence is bookended by a pair of Brians.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Bren'd on September 16, 2014, 05:09:36 PM
Albion always want to be like us.  They've even managed to be 2nd in the league too.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Clampy on September 16, 2014, 05:30:28 PM
The thing is if you're going to have a big squad overhaul like the pinstripeyfilth have, you need a manager in there who's been through that before not bloody Alan Irvine, especially in the Premiership.

It also would help if he'd actually wanted any of the players that have come in.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: The Man With A Stick on September 16, 2014, 08:02:38 PM
Put WM on in the car tonight for a laugh, there were a few of them harping on about how Irvine deserves the boot after four league games.  Hold on, weren't they shit last season too?

And they call us fickle.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Damo70 on September 17, 2014, 04:25:59 PM
In all fairness I don't think you can call them fickle for wanting him out of the door after a poor start when they didn't want him in the door to start with.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: dave.woodhall on September 17, 2014, 04:28:44 PM
We didn't want McLeish but we weren't hounding him after four matches.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: cheltenhamlion on September 17, 2014, 05:28:39 PM
McLeish first got a proper panning at the Bolton game with 3 or 4 left to play and us in significant danger of dropping.

It is the Olbiyun way. Everything is always the managers fault. Perhaps they ought to stop being "oh so forward thinking" and go back to a model where the manager can pick the players they sign again.

Perhaps they should stop perennially appointing managers on the cheap. Perhaps they should examine the real culprits and direct their ire at them.

I don't see the press giving them shit about bemoaning Irvine I might add.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Clampy on September 18, 2014, 09:05:34 AM


It is the Olbiyun way. Everything is always the managers fault. Perhaps they ought to stop being "oh so forward thinking" and go back to a model where the manager can pick the players they sign again.


I don't get why some manager's enjoying working to conditions like that. I know it's fairly common on the continent but if i was a manager i'd want to choose what players were coming in, not to turn up to training one morning and find a Nigerian striker i'd never heard of waiting for me.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: QBVILLA on September 18, 2014, 11:59:33 AM
They didn't want Irvine so it's no surprise they still don't want him after their start. We can't really knock them for that after the way some fans protested to the McLeish appointment, or indeed the speculation prior to that that we were going to get Steve McLaren.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Ads on September 18, 2014, 12:14:40 PM
We weren't booing after four games though. It took until late March against Bolton for the crowd to turn.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Damo70 on September 18, 2014, 12:43:54 PM


It is the Olbiyun way. Everything is always the managers fault. Perhaps they ought to stop being "oh so forward thinking" and go back to a model where the manager can pick the players they sign again.


I don't get why some manager's enjoying working to conditions like that. I know it's fairly common on the continent but if i was a manager i'd want to choose what players were coming in, not to turn up to training one morning and find a Nigerian striker i'd never heard of waiting for me.

Whatever the circumstances/conditions there was no way Irvine was going to turn down A Premier League management post.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: QBVILLA on September 18, 2014, 01:12:15 PM
We weren't booing after four games though. It took until late March against Bolton for the crowd to turn.

Agreed, but the protests outside the ground before a ball had been kicked didn't exactly give the impression of fans giving the bloke a chance. Obviously this wasn't all the fans but then again it isn't all of the Albion fans calling for Irvine's head after four games either.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Chipsticks on September 18, 2014, 01:15:49 PM
We weren't booing after four games though. It took until late March against Bolton for the crowd to turn.

Agreed, but the protests outside the ground before a ball had been kicked didn't exactly give the impression of fans giving the bloke a chance. Obviously this wasn't all the fans but then again it isn't all of the Albion fans calling for Irvine's head after four games either.

In fairness, the protests outside the ground were before he'd signed - as soon as it was announced I think we collectively gave him much more of a chance than many. 
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Post by: QBVILLA on September 18, 2014, 01:21:33 PM
Not disagreeing with that Chipsticks and if I remember correctly we had a half decent start. Had we have only only collected two points from our first four games i think it would have been different. You only need to have a look at the Hutton and Lambert threads on this forum to see how quickly fans turn.
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on September 22, 2014, 06:40:06 PM
And remember how them signing Lescott was a genius move and fantastic signing, especially compared to Swiss Phil. How is that working out for them with 0 appearances so far from Jolene?

One of the better centre backs in the league and yesterday he showed why.

We must wrap him in cotton wool.

We've done well to sign him because a player of his talent should really be playing for clubs better than us.
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Post by: paul_e on September 22, 2014, 07:29:21 PM
Is it too long since the comment about showing their players some bollocks to refer them to the blues badge?
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Post by: ACVilla on September 22, 2014, 07:40:35 PM


It is the Olbiyun way. Everything is always the managers fault. Perhaps they ought to stop being "oh so forward thinking" and go back to a model where the manager can pick the players they sign again.


I don't get why some manager's enjoying working to conditions like that. I know it's fairly common on the continent but if i was a manager i'd want to choose what players were coming in, not to turn up to training one morning and find a Nigerian striker i'd never heard of waiting for me.
Said Nigerian striker has moved into the house next door to my brother. We both had no idea who is was either. Seems a nice chap though.
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Post by: Nev on September 22, 2014, 07:59:05 PM
Dan "wooden" Pallett on Miglands Today called yesterday a "historic" victory.

He must've spent the afternoon on the WM office.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on November 01, 2014, 09:23:39 PM
Yet again the moral high ground is being scaled. http://www.waste of paper.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/west-bromwich-albion-family-hit-8034699
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Post by: saunders_heroes on November 01, 2014, 10:59:49 PM
Sick to death of hearing about minute silences, minute appaluse etc etc. it's a bloody football game, let's be done with it and ban the lot of 'em.
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on November 02, 2014, 03:52:30 PM
Yet again the moral high ground is being scaled. http://www.waste of paper.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/west-bromwich-albion-family-hit-8034699

It was all really ridiculous to be honest.

There was some noise outside the ground which the Leicester fans had a moan about and as soon as it came to the applause for Astle a section of their fans booed.

Nonsensical stuff really and Albion fans are in no position to take the moral highground.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on November 02, 2014, 06:36:25 PM
Yet again the moral high ground is being scaled. http://www.waste of paper.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/west-bromwich-albion-family-hit-8034699

It was all really ridiculous to be honest.

There was some noise outside the ground which the Leicester fans had a moan about and as soon as it came to the applause for Astle a section of their fans booed.

Nonsensical stuff really and Albion fans are in position to take the moral highground.

Of course you are. You're all absolutely perfect.
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Post by: Clampy on November 02, 2014, 08:12:10 PM
Yet again the moral high ground is being scaled. http://www.waste of paper.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/west-bromwich-albion-family-hit-8034699

It was all really ridiculous to be honest.

There was some noise outside the ground which the Leicester fans had a moan about and as soon as it came to the applause for Astle a section of their fans booed.

Nonsensical stuff really and Albion fans are in position to take the moral highground.

Are these the same Albion fans who booed both the Palace keeper and Frasier Campbell when they went down with head injuries last week?
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on November 02, 2014, 10:13:11 PM
Why are you both having a pop?

I agree with both of you. And I've said similar on my Twitter regarding our fans calling ourselves shameful
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 02, 2014, 10:14:28 PM
Did you mean to say Albion fans are in NO position to take the moral high ground?
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Post by: dave.woodhall on November 02, 2014, 10:15:21 PM
Why are you both having a pop?

I agree with both of you. And I've said similar on my Twitter regarding our fans calling ourselves shameful

Did you miss out the word 'no' in your last sentence?
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on November 02, 2014, 10:16:51 PM
Oops. That will explain it.

Beer and the internet are never a good thing.

Yes, it should have read 'no position to take the moral highground'.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on November 02, 2014, 10:17:59 PM
Okay.
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Post by: Chico Hamilton III on November 03, 2014, 10:34:37 AM
Couple of my mates went to Leicester with the Albion on Saturday. They were pissed before they even got to New Street, carried on drinking on the train, Posting selfies of themselves drinking cans of Tenants Super, staggered off at Leicester station and made their way to the ground. They ended up at 3pm at Welford Road.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on November 07, 2014, 06:45:11 PM
At least ours wait until they've played for England.

http://www.waste of paper.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/west-bromwich-albion-saido-berahino-8070866
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 07, 2014, 06:49:59 PM
How long before he claims he was misquoted? 40 top flight league games and he is mouthing off, what a wanker.
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Post by: The Laughing Policeman on November 08, 2014, 11:01:23 AM
At least ours wait until they've played for England.

http://www.waste of paper.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/west-bromwich-albion-saido-berahino-8070866

Love this sentence..........
But he also revealed he dreams of playing in the Champions League and when asked if that meant he might have to leave Albion he conceded it might.
Saido old son, there's no might about that.
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on November 09, 2014, 05:52:58 PM
I knew we would face questions about his future eventually.

I'm sure everybody wants to play in the Champions League and if Saido does then he won't achieve that ambition with us. I have no problem with that. The latest reports this morning is that he's going to sign a new long term contract which will be good for the club when it comes to cashing in.
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Post by: lovejoy on November 09, 2014, 07:53:24 PM
Let's be honest, this isn't a WBA specific issue, we suffer just as much. "I want to play Champions a League"= I want to cash in with a bigger club and ignore my contract.
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on November 09, 2014, 09:44:33 PM
I think we've got to be careful really and I knew that the second he got an England call up the media would be blowing him out to be the next big thing.

Saido has been excellent this season. His link up play, ability to hold up the ball and his upper strength to now start bullying defenders has been very impressive, as is his movement and his finishing is speaking for itself. He has improved ten fold this season and he has worked throughout the summer to get himself into the best possible shape. The attitude he also displayed last season has vanished. My worry is that the media will continue (like they do with all English talent) to build him up as the next big thing despite the fact he has many improvements to make to his game before he approaches anything near the finished article.

I think the club in general have expected at some point the media would try tripping him up regarding a move, too. He has three years left on his current deal but I think the club are looking to extend that so we have all the bargaining cards when it comes to selling him providing his form continues as it is. When it comes to negotiating player sales, Jeremy Peace excels in that area. (As you found out with Curtis Davies!)  ;D
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Post by: Villa in Denmark on November 09, 2014, 11:13:34 PM
I think it's optimistic to think he'll sign an extension.  His agent will definitely advise against.  With 3 years left on his contract your negotiating position isn't going to be much stronger if he signs a 1 or 2 year extension.

Ultimately if he thinks his career (or bank balance) is better served elsewhere now that he's starting to attract attention, that's exactly what will happen, and the only debating points will be when and for how much.

We've all seen it so many times with so many players.
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on November 09, 2014, 11:36:49 PM
I think it's optimistic to think he'll sign an extension.  His agent will definitely advise against.  With 3 years left on his contract your negotiating position isn't going to be much stronger if he signs a 1 or 2 year extension.

Ultimately if he thinks his career (or bank balance) is better served elsewhere now that he's starting to attract attention, that's exactly what will happen, and the only debating points will be when and for how much.

We've all seen it so many times with so many players.

I agree with you.

We've had discussions with his representatives and they are set to continue this week. Initially he was on £850 a week and he got a deserved new contract. I cannot imagine that it would have been anything above £15 so I guess yet again he has earned himself a new deal. The contract he signed last year we are lead to believe was highly incentive based. Jeremy Peace has spoken regularly about young players receiving too much to early and he's a very much a believer in you earn the rewards with your performances and Saido is doing that. The problem was last year after his new deal he came 'bertie big bollocks' but he seems a much more grounded individual this year and I can't see that happening again.
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Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 09, 2014, 11:48:36 PM
Let's be honest, this isn't a WBA specific issue, we suffer just as much. "I want to play Champions a League"= I want to cash in with a bigger club and ignore my contract.

Yep. And that is what is so depressing.

Although I don't really feel the hating Albion thing (am from the other side of the city, so never encountered Albion fans, really, all about hating Blues for me), so it wouldn't really interest me otherwise, but if he fucks off that quickly, then that's really nothing but a bad thing.

It just goes to show - yet again - the massive polarising impact the CL has had on football in this country. Depressing as fuck.
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Post by: Dave on November 09, 2014, 11:51:18 PM
The problem was last year after his new deal he came 'Lambert big bollocks'
Word filter strikes again
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Post by: Chico Hamilton III on November 25, 2014, 09:57:08 AM
Looks like Berahino possess all the qualities required of a top-flight footballer:

http://news.sky.com/story/1379933/footballer-berahino-held-over-drink-driving

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Post by: Witton Warrior on December 01, 2014, 04:25:06 PM
After enduring merciless ribbing about Villa not being able to have a Goal of the Month recently I asked my tame Baggie if they were having Own Goal or Penalty of the Month for November.

They're really not happy ;-)
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Post by: Dave on December 01, 2014, 06:45:51 PM
This kind of thing always goes well...

Quote
West Brom head coach Alan Irvine has revealed that he had not seen record signing Brown Ideye live before signing him.
Ideye joined West Brom in a club record deal in the region of £10million last week from Dynamo Kiev as Irvine looked to bolster his attacking options.

Nigeria international Ideye scored 33 goals in 74 games during his time in Ukraine and Irvine admits he was forced to rely on his scouts and video footage to make sure the striker was the right man for the club.

"I don't know much about Brown Ideye," said Irvine. "I've not seen him live, but people we trust have done.

"It's not necessarily something that is detrimental to me not to have seen him live, though ideally I would like to because that's how I like to do my work.

"But we've done our research on him and what we have done is found decent players in the past in this way."

At what point was he meant to have seen him play live, Dave?

We appointed Alan Irvine in June - the only football being played then was the World Cup.

If we restricted ourselves just to players who our head coaches have seen live then we're narrowing our options severely - we're in 2014 now, not 1974.

I have no problems with AI not seeing him play live because I know he'll have been scouted thoroughly.
Maybe he should have watched him after all then, based on his West Brom career thus far?
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Post by: Exeter 77 on December 02, 2014, 10:07:30 PM
Must be December I've just see the first 'Irvine Out' post on the BBC website.

Join the debate at #bbcfootball

West Brom 1-2 West Ham
Posted at
Pete Rowley: The sooner Alan Irvine is sacked the better
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Post by: dave.woodhall on December 02, 2014, 11:24:44 PM
Must be December I've just see the first 'Irvine Out' post on the BBC website.

Join the debate at #bbcfootball

West Brom 1-2 West Ham
Posted at
Pete Rowley: The sooner Alan Irvine is sacked the better

CallMeFranksy FM was full of it on Saturday.
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Post by: Matt C on December 03, 2014, 02:30:22 AM
What odds on Leicester and this lot both having new managers or at least sacked existing by the time we play them
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Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on December 03, 2014, 03:06:58 AM
What odds on Leicester and this lot both having new managers or at least sacked existing by the time we play them
'tis no matter.
We will crush them.
:D
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Post by: Dr Butler on December 03, 2014, 10:07:21 AM
Must be December I've just see the first 'Irvine Out' post on the BBC website.

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West Brom 1-2 West Ham
Posted at
Pete Rowley: The sooner Alan Irvine is sacked the better

yeah I saw that...I thought he was the Stripey messiah ?

UTV
The Doc
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Post by: dave.woodhall on December 03, 2014, 11:05:30 AM
Must be December I've just see the first 'Irvine Out' post on the BBC website.

Join the debate at #bbcfootball

West Brom 1-2 West Ham
Posted at
Pete Rowley: The sooner Alan Irvine is sacked the better

yeah I saw that...I thought he was the Stripey messiah ?

UTV
The Doc

I wish you'd pay attention. As soon as they lose more than two games in a row (that's three, for all you Stripeys out there) the bestest and most loyalest we ay liyk the Villa they'm fikkul fans in history lay all the ills of the world on the shoulders of their manager.
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Post by: Dr Butler on December 03, 2014, 04:43:46 PM
Must be December I've just see the first 'Irvine Out' post on the BBC website.

Join the debate at #bbcfootball

West Brom 1-2 West Ham
Posted at
Pete Rowley: The sooner Alan Irvine is sacked the better

yeah I saw that...I thought he was the Stripey messiah ?

UTV
The Doc

I wish you'd pay attention. As soon as they lose more than two games in a row (that's three, for all you Stripeys out there) the bestest and most loyalest we ay liyk the Villa they'm fikkul fans in history lay all the ills of the world on the shoulders of their manager.


but Dave, we were told this one would be different....like the last one and the one before that....and before that...and before that.....and before that.....and before that.....and before that.....and before that.....and before that.....and before that.....and it was probably that bastard Irvine's fault that Berahino got pulled for drink driving too..

as my dear old Dad would say, stripey wankers... the lot of them.

UTV
The Doc
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on December 03, 2014, 07:01:29 PM
Maybe he should have watched him after all then, based on his West Brom career thus far?

He hasn't been afforded a chance really - had a very good fifteen minutes or so at Southampton, linked well with Berahino against Everton (both were given very little service), scored in a cup match and hasn't been given an opportunity since.

Likewise Varela was another player that Irvine brushed onto the coal fire. Once he brought Varela on last night (after the fans persistent chanting), unsurprisingly, he was very good and without doubt a better option than the likes of Dorrans, Brunt and Berahino out wide.
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Post by: Clampy on December 03, 2014, 07:11:41 PM
Maybe he should have watched him after all then, based on his West Brom career thus far?

He hasn't been afforded a chance really - had a very good fifteen minutes or so at Southampton, linked well with Berahino against Everton (both were given very little service), scored in a cup match and hasn't been given an opportunity since.

Likewise Varela was another player that Irvine brushed onto the coal fire. Once he brought Varela on last night (after the fans persistent chanting), unsurprisingly, he was very good and without doubt a better option than the likes of Dorrans, Brunt and Berahino out wide.

At the end of the day, the manager (imo) should bring in he players he wants to, not who someone picks for him.
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on December 03, 2014, 07:57:46 PM
At the end of the day, the manager (imo) should bring in he players he wants to, not who someone picks for him.

I agree and disagree at the same time.

The model can work providing you have the correct people in place - as we did with Dan Ashworth.
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Post by: Dave on December 03, 2014, 10:35:56 PM
At the end of the day, the manager (imo) should bring in he players he wants to, not who someone picks for him.

I agree and disagree at the same time.

The model can work providing you have the correct people in place - as we did with Dan Ashworth.
Maybe it's the sort of thing that if you're spending a few hundred thousand or a million then it doesn't really matter too much. Like with some of our speculative punts that haven't worked out as well as we'd want. 

If you're nearly doubling your record transfer fee though, maybe the person who decides whether he's going to play or not should have a bit of input?
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Post by: dave.woodhall on December 03, 2014, 10:49:32 PM
Eight managers in ten years. Doesn't that say something?
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 03, 2014, 10:59:13 PM
Since Brian Talbot left in '91 they've had 3 managers last 2 years. Buckley, Mowbray and Megson. And Talbot was the first to manage that since Fatkinson left for Manure in 1981. So 4 managers in 33 years have managed 2 years in the job.
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Post by: cdbullyweefan on December 03, 2014, 11:49:56 PM
Eight managers in ten years. Doesn't that say something?

Bearing in mind that the last ten years have been spectacularly successful compared to their previous two decades, that says to me clubs should keep sacking managers.
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Post by: Clampy on December 04, 2014, 08:45:16 AM
At the end of the day, the manager (imo) should bring in he players he wants to, not who someone picks for him.

I agree and disagree at the same time.

The model can work providing you have the correct people in place - as we did with Dan Ashworth.
Maybe it's the sort of thing that if you're spending a few hundred thousand or a million then it doesn't really matter too much. Like with some of our speculative punts that haven't worked out as well as we'd want. 

If you're nearly doubling your record transfer fee though, maybe the person who decides whether he's going to play or not should have a bit of input?

Exactly, especially if he's the one who get's the boot when it all goes wrong. But hey, that's ok, it's not 1974 you know.
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Post by: Chico Hamilton III on December 04, 2014, 03:15:33 PM
Worst home form for nearly 30 years, according to the Mail. That was when Jonny Giles relegated them in 1985/6
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on December 04, 2014, 06:52:25 PM
Eight managers in ten years. Doesn't that say something?

The system changed in 2009 - Mowbray left for Celtic, Hodgson left for England - not much we could have done about either of those.

Peace had to change the system because despite being very shrewd financially he is not a football man and needed someone with a bit more knowledge and know how on the football side of things. Furthermore he's an awkward character and managers find it hard to get on with him (Megson notoriously). The technical director acts as a buffer between Peace and his now 'head coach' - that might turn potential managers away but that's the way Peace wants the club to be run.

His idea that like on the continent instead of having a continuously high turnover of players and coaching staff when one manager departs it would be best to gain some continuity of having an existing coaching staff remain to compliment a head coach. The club insist that if they sign the players (with a head coaches approval) to play a particular way they would be best suited to get a manager to fit that style rather than vice versa.

The other idea was that Peace wanted to ease the burden of the manager/head coach by removing some of the duties to help ease the pressure on their role - if we could take the pressures of having to continuously recruit it would allow the coach more time to prepare for fixtures, watch the opposition etc rather than having to combine both duties.

Whether that role works or not is debatable but given we've spent the last five years in the Premier League after years of yo-yoing and lying in the doldrums during the 90s I guess Peace has good scope to say its worked.
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Post by: Clampy on December 05, 2014, 08:59:17 AM
Eight managers in ten years. Doesn't that say something?

The system changed in 2009 - Mowbray left for Celtic, Hodgson left for England - not much we could have done about either of those.

Peace had to change the system because despite being very shrewd financially he is not a football man and needed someone with a bit more knowledge and know how on the football side of things. Furthermore he's an awkward character and managers find it hard to get on with him (Megson notoriously). The technical director acts as a buffer between Peace and his now 'head coach' - that might turn potential managers away but that's the way Peace wants the club to be run.

His idea that like on the continent instead of having a continuously high turnover of players and coaching staff when one manager departs it would be best to gain some continuity of having an existing coaching staff remain to compliment a head coach. The club insist that if they sign the players (with a head coaches approval) to play a particular way they would be best suited to get a manager to fit that style rather than vice versa.

The other idea was that Peace wanted to ease the burden of the manager/head coach by removing some of the duties to help ease the pressure on their role - if we could take the pressures of having to continuously recruit it would allow the coach more time to prepare for fixtures, watch the opposition etc rather than having to combine both duties.

Whether that role works or not is debatable but given we've spent the last five years in the Premier League after years of yo-yoing and lying in the doldrums during the 90s I guess Peace has good scope to say its worked.

If it has worked, why has Peace sacked the last two managers?
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Post by: LeeB on December 05, 2014, 11:13:42 AM
I think Jeremy Peace's big idea is that head coaches get paid a lot less than proper managers.
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Post by: Nev on December 05, 2014, 12:53:29 PM
John, Johnnie, Bob,Ronnie, Ron, Bobby, Ron, Ronnie, Patsy.
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Post by: Bren'd on December 05, 2014, 03:44:26 PM
I think as soon as Albion hire one manager they immediately start the recruitment drive for the next.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on December 05, 2014, 03:49:56 PM
I think as soon as Albion hire one manager they immediately start the recruitment drive for the next.

It's the only employer where "Thank you for your interest...you have been unsuccessful...will keep you on file..." actually means something.
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Post by: peter w on December 05, 2014, 06:07:07 PM
Since Brian Talbot left in '91 they've had 3 managers last 2 years. Buckley, Mowbray and Megson. And Talbot was the first to manage that since Fatkinson left for Manure in 1981. So 4 managers in 33 years have managed 2 years in the job.

Fatkinson? A bit of respect please.
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Post by: Ads on December 05, 2014, 10:50:48 PM
As we came out of Palace there was a chant of "always shit on the Tesco carrier bags" which to be honest is the first time I have heard an anti-Albion song sung when not playing them. Rivalry growing?
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 05, 2014, 10:57:04 PM
Since Brian Talbot left in '91 they've had 3 managers last 2 years. Buckley, Mowbray and Megson. And Talbot was the first to manage that since Fatkinson left for Manure in 1981. So 4 managers in 33 years have managed 2 years in the job.

Fatkinson? A bit of respect please.

Fat Ron. Much more respectful. Happy now?
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on December 07, 2014, 02:50:11 PM
If it has worked, why has Peace sacked the last two managers?

Have we? Of our last two head coaches Clarke was the only one sacked..

We could also throw this question the other way round..
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Post by: Lambert and Payne on December 07, 2014, 08:48:13 PM
As we came out of Palace there was a chant of "always shit on the Tesco carrier bags" which to be honest is the first time I have heard an anti-Albion song sung when not playing them. Rivalry growing?

With albion being our only local derby for the last 3/4 years I think so. A bit like Cov in the 90s, as soon as they slink back down into the lower leagues they'll soon be forgotten about. 
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Post by: dave.woodhall on December 07, 2014, 08:49:30 PM
As we came out of Palace there was a chant of "always shit on the Tesco carrier bags" which to be honest is the first time I have heard an anti-Albion song sung when not playing them. Rivalry growing?

With albion being our only local derby for the last 3/4 years I think so. A bit like Cov in the 90s, as soon as they slink back down into the lower leagues they'll soon be forgotten about. 

Speak for yourself.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Lambert and Payne on December 07, 2014, 08:58:24 PM
I'm talking on the whole. Personally, I'm not fond of them, the way they handled the Petrov thing was appalling and unforgivable. If they didn't know what was going on, or even didn't want to take part in it then thats fair enough. But quite a few (not all), boo'd laughed and took the piss whenever we did it, particularly so at their place.
The pride of the midlands shite has been laughable and cringey all at the same time.

But I genuinely believe unless a Portsmouth style collapse happens to Blues, Albion won't be considered huge rivals by the majority of our support
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Post by: Clampy on December 07, 2014, 09:04:20 PM
If it has worked, why has Peace sacked the last two managers?

Have we? Of our last two head coaches Clarke was the only one sacked..

We could also throw this question the other way round..

What about Pepe Mel?

Why should we throw this question the other way round?
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on December 07, 2014, 09:24:22 PM
What about Pepe Mel?

Why should we throw this question the other way round?

It was mutual - I think Mel knew he wasn't going to get the backing he would have liked, both in terms of recruitment and the backroom staff which at our place are irreplaceable. Peace wanted the safe option.

The way you worded your question it seemed like you was trying to pick flaws in the system (which it has). I would have thrown it around to suggest the way we (or other teams) did things previously hardly worked either due to sacking managers.
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Post by: Dave on December 07, 2014, 09:27:49 PM
What about Pepe Mel?

Why should we throw this question the other way round?

It was mutual - I think Mel knew he wasn't going to get the backing he would have liked, both in terms of recruitment and the backroom staff which at our place are irreplaceable. Peace wanted the safe option.
Really? We've had a lot of managers "mutual consented" as well. It doesn't normally mean that it's actually mutual.
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on December 07, 2014, 09:32:01 PM
His contract was only until the end of the season - there was an option to extend. Or something like that.

He wasn't going to be backed as he would have liked anyway.

Tell you what though - I'd have him back now in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Clampy on December 08, 2014, 08:55:11 AM
What about Pepe Mel?

Why should we throw this question the other way round?

It was mutual - I think Mel knew he wasn't going to get the backing he would have liked, both in terms of recruitment and the backroom staff which at our place are irreplaceable. Peace wanted the safe option.

The way you worded your question it seemed like you was trying to pick flaws in the system (which it has). I would have thrown it around to suggest the way we (or other teams) did things previously hardly worked either due to sacking managers.

Mutual consent normally means the manager in question has been sacked. Besides, according to reports, when he joined he was given an 18 month contract.

And of course i'm picking flaws with the albion head coach system. I think a manager should have a say on who he brings in. Bringing in a striker who by his own admission he hasn't even watched is ridiculous.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on December 08, 2014, 10:02:11 AM
O'Leary was mutually consented.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: cheltenhamlion on December 08, 2014, 05:50:26 PM
I would have preferred him mutilated the obnoxious tosser.
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on December 08, 2014, 06:35:34 PM
Mutual consent normally means the manager in question has been sacked. Besides, according to reports, when he joined he was given an 18 month contract.

And of course i'm picking flaws with the albion head coach system. I think a manager should have a say on who he brings in. Bringing in a striker who by his own admission he hasn't even watched is ridiculous.

There was an option for both to part ways at the end of the season.

Irvine had seen Brown play on the DVDs provided to him by the scouting staff - Irvine hadn't seen him play live.

Di Matteo hadn't seen Odemwingie play, Mowbray hadn't seen Olsson or Mulumbu play either.

If we are going to stop ourselves at players who our head coaches have seen then our summer business is going to be very poor and we'd be turning our nose up at the good players on cheaper fees & wages on the continent for the ridiculous prices in this country. Our recruitment team usually draw up a list of players they have watched over twelve months and then present them to the head coach for his decision.

That whole story is one which was blown way out of proportion by the media.
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Post by: Dave on December 09, 2014, 08:04:22 AM
If we are going to stop ourselves at players who our head coaches have seen then our summer business is going to be very poor and we'd be turning our nose up at the good players on cheaper fees & wages on the continent for the ridiculous prices in this country.
Which is fine, if you're spending a million here or there - it doesn't really matter too much if they've got it wrong.

But I'd say that it's a hard sell you've got there - claiming that you had to spend £10m on Brown Ideye in order to get away from ridiculous transfer fees.
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on December 09, 2014, 01:39:36 PM
Which is fine, if you're spending a million here or there - it doesn't really matter too much if they've got it wrong.

But I'd say that it's a hard sell you've got there - claiming that you had to spend £10m on Brown Ideye in order to get away from ridiculous transfer fees.

He has an impressive record in fairness to him which I imagine is why we spent a large proportion of our budget on him. The other lad we were looking at was Emannuel Riviere.

It's a shame that his chances here have been so limited but we provide none of our strikers any notable service during a game so it doesn't surprise me that he has struggled.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on December 10, 2014, 04:04:15 PM
It just ay fair.

http://www.waste of paper.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/west-brom-gateshead-push-hawthorns-8264094
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Post by: QBVILLA on December 10, 2014, 04:30:51 PM
I never met a blues fan until i started work in Marston  Green and as a  Black Country  lad it's the Albion game i look forward to the most. It's  their cup final, I  hope to  all that is holy we destroy  them on Saturday. Not just beat them, totally annihilate them.
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Post by: Clampy on December 10, 2014, 04:33:42 PM
It just ay fair.

http://www.waste of paper.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/west-brom-gateshead-push-hawthorns-8264094

£15 is quite reasonable and I don't blame Gateshead for trying to get as much money as they could.
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Post by: QBVILLA on December 10, 2014, 05:02:19 PM
From Gateshead 's point of view it is understandable but i can't  knock Albion for trying to give their fans a chance of a cheaper ticket. However,there's  plenty to  knock Albion for.
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on December 10, 2014, 06:28:27 PM
I won't be paying £15 to watch that - I might have gone if it was a tenner but not the extra £5 - especially if I have to give up my seat.

I thought they would have opted for a tenner to be honest. The more people in the ground the more money they would have received.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 10, 2014, 06:38:36 PM
Yeah because the place would have been rammed at £10 a ticket.

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As a result there is undoubtedly a risk that great swathes of empty Hawthorns seats will be unsold when the Baggies face the Vanarama Conference outfit in the third round of the FA Cup.

I hate that fans expect FA Cup games to cost less than it costs to stand at a non league game. Gatehead charge £15 for their league games. Why the fuck should the FA Cup 3rd round be cheaper than a Conference game?
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on December 10, 2014, 06:48:56 PM
£15 for a league game in the conference is insane.

Then again, ticket prices in this country are.
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Post by: Ian J on December 10, 2014, 06:52:16 PM
I can understand the higher charge for this, it makes perfect sense to me.

If Villa were appearing in the cup against a local team near by in the cup I'd pay that price.
Living miles away from the Midlands and a young family my days of watching Villa have gone  until  later in life, so I would love that to happen in the cup. There's loads like me in that position all over the country, so with that and also an opportunity for the locals to bag a big fixture it's worth hiking up the prices for the benefit of the club.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 10, 2014, 07:02:11 PM
£15 for a league game in the conference is insane.

Then again, ticket prices in this country are.

I paid a fiver to watch Colehill v Bromsgrove in the preliminary round. Standard price for level 9/10. It's a bit much to be pissed that the 3rd round at a Premier League club isn't only £5 more than that.
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on December 10, 2014, 07:15:53 PM
£15 for a league game in the conference is insane.

Then again, ticket prices in this country are.

I paid a fiver to watch Colehill v Bromsgrove in the preliminary round. Standard price for level 9/10. It's a bit much to be pissed that the 3rd round at a Premier League club isn't only £5 more than that.

I'd have no problems paying a fiver for a game like that. All non-league football for me should fall within the £5 to £10 bracket or a pay what you can for a junior type thing.
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Post by: Ian J on December 10, 2014, 07:23:03 PM
Sorry, Misread the fixture. It's at WBA isn't it? Ok different scenario then.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 23, 2014, 12:39:04 PM
We get a mention in this one. http://thebirminghampress.com/2014/12/turning-victory-into-defeat/
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: glasses on December 23, 2014, 12:44:02 PM
We get a mention in this one. http://thebirminghampress.com/2014/12/turning-victory-into-defeat/
It's almost as if the Albion didn't huff and puff for 60 odd minutes against 10 men before scraping a victory
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Post by: Clampy on December 23, 2014, 12:50:26 PM
We get a mention in this one. http://thebirminghampress.com/2014/12/turning-victory-into-defeat/

What's with the 'Christiana Benteke' comment? Mr Willis is not normally like that is he, unless it was a genuine spelling mistake.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: glasses on December 23, 2014, 12:56:41 PM
I'd say genuine mistake. You'd miss the first 'A' out if you were deliberately taking the piss
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Post by: dave.woodhall on December 23, 2014, 12:56:50 PM
We get a mention in this one. http://thebirminghampress.com/2014/12/turning-victory-into-defeat/

What's with the 'Christiana Benteke' comment? Mr Willis is not normally like that is he, unless it was a genuine spelling mistake.

I've no doubt it's a typo and will be corrected.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Richard E on December 27, 2014, 07:27:03 AM
It seems to be back to 'Irvine Out' again now. And they call us fickle.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Ad@m on December 28, 2014, 10:21:41 AM
From Gateshead 's point of view it is understandable but i can't  knock Albion for trying to give their fans a chance of a cheaper ticket. However,there's  plenty to  knock Albion for.

Yep, like the fact their Chief Exec is shouting his mouth off trying to make Gateshead look like the bad guys.

£5 a ticket for a game like this makes fuck all difference to the Baggies but for a team like Gateshead it means a huge amount.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Clampy on December 28, 2014, 09:35:27 PM
Keith Downing is getting stick now.
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Post by: SoccerHQ on December 28, 2014, 09:36:41 PM
Didn't even realise Gateshead had got WBA in the cup, thought they were playing Palace or someone.

Shame it's not at Gateshead as they'd probably beat West Brom in their current form.
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on December 29, 2014, 11:31:33 AM
It seems to be back to 'Irvine Out' again now. And they call us fickle.

It always has been Irvine out..
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Clampy on December 29, 2014, 11:33:48 AM
It seems to be back to 'Irvine Out' again now. And they call us fickle.

It always has been Irvine out..

It wasn't after you beat us. It was 'maybe he needs more time'.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Liam_Baggies on December 29, 2014, 12:07:37 PM
No - it was a case of that result has brought him more time..

The majority of our fan base would still have wanted him sacked after beating you - myself included.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Clampy on December 29, 2014, 12:19:05 PM
What will happen is though, you'll sack him, you'll take an age to replace him and when you do it'll be some chap who no-one expected. The fans won't be happy, they'll want him out etc.....
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Liam_Baggies on December 29, 2014, 12:24:17 PM
What will happen is though, you'll sack him, you'll take an age to replace him and when you do it'll be some chap who no-one expected. The fans won't be happy, they'll want him out etc.....

Appointments don't usually bother me and are usually well supported but the Irvine experiment was never destined to work.

For me though - I'd offer Steve McClaren anything he wanted to leave Derby.

It needs someone to go in there with no fear, someone experienced and knows what this division requires.

We can't afford another inexperienced young manager in this current predicament.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Clampy on December 29, 2014, 12:31:45 PM
What will happen is though, you'll sack him, you'll take an age to replace him and when you do it'll be some chap who no-one expected. The fans won't be happy, they'll want him out etc.....

Appointments don't usually bother me and are usually well supported but the Irvine experiment was never destined to work.

For me though - I'd offer Steve McClaren anything he wanted to leave Derby.

It needs someone to go in there with no fear, someone experienced and knows what this division requires.

We can't afford another inexperienced young manager in this current predicament.

I can't see any of that happening though. Tim Sherwood even turned the job down apparently and he was out of work at the time. Maybe it's time to employ a 'manager' and let him be the manager.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Liam_Baggies on December 29, 2014, 12:39:05 PM
Peace won't divert from his model - he has to have people in place otherwise he'll just fall out with them - especially someone like Pulis and to an extent Sherwood.

The real problem for me at our club is that we're forcing managers to work with our existing coaching staff; Keith Downing and Dean Kiely. Both of whom have jobs for life here, without doubt undermine head coaches because over a long period of time they have built up healthy relationships with players at the club. Furthermore, no matter how bad we might be, and how poor our players are they always seem to remain making the head coach the scapegoat.

The whole first team coaching needs refreshing by allowing people to come in with their own men.
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Post by: stuart r on December 29, 2014, 01:38:37 PM

For me though - I'd offer Steve McClaren anything he wanted to leave Derby.


I don't think WBA have got anything to offer that he would want. Better or similar prospects at Derby... He'd come to Villa though and I'd quite like that.
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Post by: Ads on December 29, 2014, 02:25:35 PM
Albion fans were giving Downing abuse at the game yesterday. "Yow Dingle bastard, get out of our club, bay it", was the chant being sung as they came off.
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Post by: LeeB on December 29, 2014, 03:42:37 PM

For me though - I'd offer Steve McClaren anything he wanted to leave Derby.


I don't think WBA have got anything to offer that he would want. Better or similar prospects at Derby... He'd come to Villa though and I'd quite like that.

Derby County are miles bigger than the bog-eyes.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Chinchilla Bathhouse on December 29, 2014, 10:29:56 PM
5Live reporting that Irvine has lost his job...waiting for confirmation...
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 29, 2014, 10:31:04 PM
5Live reporting that Irvine has lost his job...waiting for confirmation...

Has he looked behind the sofa? Whenever I lose something I nearly always find it there.
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Post by: Chinchilla Bathhouse on December 29, 2014, 10:49:17 PM
5Live reporting that Irvine has lost his job...waiting for confirmation...

Has he looked behind the sofa? Whenever I lose something I nearly always find it there.

Don't know about behind the sofa, but he has looked down the side of it and all he found was an old biro, a peanut and 20p.  (The biro and the peanut go straight into the midfield for the game on Thursday, and the 20p will buy a new striker).
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Post by: Clampy on December 29, 2014, 10:52:37 PM
They might as well have stuck with Pepe Mel. What a mess.
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on December 29, 2014, 11:04:59 PM
They might as well have stuck with Pepe Mel. What a mess.

Bang on the money. Yes we should.

Given him the tools to do the job properly.

Irvine's gone.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 29, 2014, 11:39:27 PM
This will make their 4th manager/head coach since we got Lambert. 5th if you want to include Downing.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 29, 2014, 11:43:38 PM
And they call us fickle. We had a lot more reason to be against McLeish but didn't turn on him until the end of April.

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Irvine was subjected to chants of "you're getting sacked in the ­morning" and loud boos from his own fans during the loss at Stoke but insisted that he could still mount a revival.
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on December 30, 2014, 12:03:39 AM
And they call us fickle. We had a lot more reason to be against McLeish but didn't turn on him until the end of April.

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Irvine was subjected to chants of "you're getting sacked in the ­morning" and loud boos from his own fans during the loss at Stoke but insisted that he could still mount a revival.

I wouldn't say fickle as he was never really wanted in the first place.

His substitution at Stoke though was one of the biggest acts of stupidity I've seen.
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Post by: Broughty-Villian on December 30, 2014, 12:06:39 AM
Felix Magath is free......did a great job at fulham. Love to see him at the boggies and do a repeat job
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on December 30, 2014, 12:08:20 AM
It will be one of either Sherwood or Pulis I imagine.

Sherwood was very close last time.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 30, 2014, 12:09:38 AM
Maybe they can get their wish as they wanted him to stay at The Hawthorns......

(http://i3.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article810562.ece/alternates/s615/West-Bromwich-Albion-v-Aston-Villa--Premier-League.jpg)
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Post by: pauliewalnuts on December 30, 2014, 12:53:36 AM
And they call us fickle. We had a lot more reason to be against McLeish but didn't turn on him until the end of April.

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Irvine was subjected to chants of "you're getting sacked in the ­morning" and loud boos from his own fans during the loss at Stoke but insisted that he could still mount a revival.

I wouldn't say fickle as he was never really wanted in the first place.

His substitution at Stoke though was one of the biggest acts of stupidity I've seen.

You should try being us.

We see grotesque acts of stupidity almost every week, and have done for four long years now.
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Post by: Damo70 on December 30, 2014, 01:00:31 AM
And they call us fickle. We had a lot more reason to be against McLeish but didn't turn on him until the end of April.

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Irvine was subjected to chants of "you're getting sacked in the ­morning" and loud boos from his own fans during the loss at Stoke but insisted that he could still mount a revival.

I wouldn't say fickle as he was never really wanted in the first place.

His substitution at Stoke though was one of the biggest acts of stupidity I've seen.

What is the story of that substitution Liam? I haven't heard anything about it. If they can agree his exact role/powers I reckon Pulis would do a good job. But would the fans be happy with a manager who gets results by not necessarily playing good football?
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Post by: olaftab on December 30, 2014, 01:29:37 AM
I think Warnock is absolutely right for Albion now. If I were Jezza Islam I wouldn't wast a second in grabbing him.
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Post by: DB on December 30, 2014, 08:51:38 AM
Wont be Tiny Penis...not the way Peace runs the club. He wants a coach, Pulis will want to do all managerial stuff, own signings, backroom staff. Just heard that Sherwood is in the frame via R5 though.
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Post by: eamonn on December 30, 2014, 09:03:26 AM
And they call us fickle. We had a lot more reason to be against McLeish but didn't turn on him until the end of April.

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Irvine was subjected to chants of "you're getting sacked in the ­morning" and loud boos from his own fans during the loss at Stoke but insisted that he could still mount a revival.

I wouldn't say fickle as he was never really wanted in the first place.

His substitution at Stoke though was one of the biggest acts of stupidity I've seen.

What is the story of that substitution Liam? I haven't heard anything about it. If they can agree his exact role/powers I reckon Pulis would do a good job. But would the fans be happy with a manager who gets results by not necessarily playing good football?

We get crap results by not necessarily playing good football!
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Post by: Clampy on December 30, 2014, 09:46:06 AM
It will be one of either Sherwood or Pulis I imagine.

Sherwood was very close last time.

Or a coach no-one has ever heard of.
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Post by: Rudy65 on December 30, 2014, 10:00:06 AM
Just bizarre Sherwood gets linked with Prem jobs. What has he ever done as a manager save as 15 games with Spurs?

Pulis will keep them up.....unfortunately
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Post by: walsall villain on December 30, 2014, 10:04:36 AM
Wont be Tiny Penis...not the way Peace runs the club. He wants a coach, Pulis will want to do all managerial stuff, own signings, backroom staff. Just heard that Sherwood is in the frame via R5 though.
Agree and changing managers this frequently normally ends in tears.
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on December 30, 2014, 02:31:55 PM
What is the story of that substitution Liam? I haven't heard anything about it. If they can agree his exact role/powers I reckon Pulis would do a good job. But would the fans be happy with a manager who gets results by not necessarily playing good football?

Our best player on the pitch yet again was Stephane Sessegnon. He was the only threat we had, resorted to dribbling around half the Stoke side because his options were so limited. Instead of taking off one of Craig Gardner, Chris Brunt or Graham Dorrans who quite frankly appalling, Irvine decided to take off Sessegnon - the only player on that pitch that looked like dragging us back into the game.

It's not the first time he's done it either. As for Pulis - the football has been poor for a while so I imagine they could stomach Pulis for a while but I don't think he's the man in the long term.
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Post by: Percy McCarthy on December 30, 2014, 03:10:05 PM
My old pal (and schoolmate of Bad English) Rob Kelly in temporary charge. So Villa fans running b-lose and West Brom - nothing new there.
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Post by: Richard E on December 30, 2014, 03:12:37 PM
Agree and changing managers this frequently normally ends in tears.

Well, we can certainly hope so.
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Post by: Richard E on December 30, 2014, 03:16:46 PM
As for Pulis - the football has been poor for a while so I imagine they could stomach Pulis for a while but I don't think he's the man in the long term.

"Long term" meaning 6 months in Albion talk ;-)
 
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Post by: Richard E on December 30, 2014, 04:52:25 PM
I can't believe they're talking to Pulis and Sherwood but Ads hasn't even been mentioned as a possibility after the great job he did as Villa Manager. 
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Post by: VillaAlways on December 31, 2014, 11:24:07 AM
It's going to be Pulis by the looks of it
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Post by: LTA on December 31, 2014, 12:38:50 PM
If its Pulis then I think Albion will be safe - runnung out of teams likely to finish below us now

We are in deep trouble
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Post by: Dave on December 31, 2014, 12:49:01 PM
If its Pulis then I think Albion will be safe - runnung out of teams likely to finish below us now

We are in deep trouble
Even if Albion stay up, how about Leicester, Hull, Palace, QPR, Burnley and Sunderland?
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 31, 2014, 12:49:38 PM
If its Pulis then I think Albion will be safe - runnung out of teams likely to finish below us now

We are in deep trouble

Because the Stripeys new manager is Tony Pullis we're going to be relegated.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: LTA on December 31, 2014, 12:59:27 PM
But at least they're giving themselves a fighting chance to survive. Meanwhile, we limp on with Lambert.
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Post by: Ian J on December 31, 2014, 01:03:08 PM

It will be 'boing boing' after one of those long balls gets punted forwards. And Pullis going there at least puts to bed the ridiculous ideas of some wanting him here.
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Post by: Dave on December 31, 2014, 01:07:06 PM
But at least they're giving themselves a fighting chance to survive. Meanwhile, we limp on with Lambert.
We're limping on with more points than all of those teams have in their 'fighting chance'.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: PaulWinch again on December 31, 2014, 01:11:05 PM
As bad as things are under Lambert, I still don't see Pulis as a great step forward. I'm glad he won't be our manager.
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Post by: Chris Smith on December 31, 2014, 02:00:52 PM
They deserve each other.
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Post by: saunders_heroes on December 31, 2014, 02:18:16 PM
As bad as things are under Lambert, I still don't see Pulis as a great step forward. I'm glad he won't be our manager.

Me too.

He may keep them up but the fans will soon turn on his hideous style of "football".
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Post by: Hoppo on December 31, 2014, 02:45:50 PM
Great fit. Horrible manager, horrible club. He has never got a team in the top ten. The use of towels to dry the ball, shortening the pitch to a 100m track and Rory 'feckin ' Delap, I'm glad we wont be tainted by such a twat.
When the time comes for us to change hopefully we look forward to an Eddie Howe type manager.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Toronto Villa on December 31, 2014, 03:55:41 PM
Eddie Howe...the new Paul Lambert
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Post by: pauliewalnuts on December 31, 2014, 03:58:32 PM
As bad as things are under Lambert, I still don't see Pulis as a great step forward. I'm glad he won't be our manager.

Me too.

He may keep them up but the fans will soon turn on his hideous style of "football".

Agree.

I can't believe so many people here have seen him as some sort of messiah for us. The man was responsible for one of the most repulsively horrible football teams in the top flight for decades, and that's just with reference to the football played, let alone the gamesmanship.

I'd be mortified if we ever employed him, and look forward to seeing how Baggies fans reconcile their new manager with their oft talked about (by them) playing football the right way.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 31, 2014, 04:18:22 PM
I don't think I've ever seen such a hideous display of gamesmanship and stretching the rules to breaking point as when we played his Stoke team on one particular occasion. They were never exactly lovable but there was one match when they committed so many fouls the ref gave up penalising them and every throw-in was handled with the solemnity and co-operation by the officials of a ceremonial kick-off in a charity game.
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Post by: Hoppo on December 31, 2014, 04:26:04 PM
I said a Eddie Howe type figure.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Liam_Baggies on December 31, 2014, 04:45:28 PM
I don't think I've ever seen such a hideous display of gamesmanship and stretching the rules to breaking point as when we played his Stoke team on one particular occasion. They were never exactly lovable but there was one match when they committed so many fouls the ref gave up penalising them and every throw-in was handled with the solemnity and co-operation by the officials of a ceremonial kick-off in a charity game.

I agree.

I absolutely detested that Stoke side and everything they stood for - no matter how different or effective they were. They were cynical, ruthless and took game management to a whole new level. If Pulis adopts those similar tactics here then I'm sure that will annoy our supporters. I brought into the Mowbray football snobbery so this is already a difficult appointment to take but his Palace side were a lot more easier on the eye and I would hope we would be similar to that.

Pulis though is what we need - we're at a stage where we cannot pick someone with a style, we need someone to come in and kick this club into gear, rid the players of their attitude and start setting down a foundation for us to build from.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Godfrey Brian on December 31, 2014, 06:35:56 PM
He'll be a hero this season and won't be there at the end of next.
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Post by: The Man With A Stick on December 31, 2014, 10:26:58 PM
He's no Rinus Michels or Tony Mowbray, that's for sure.
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Post by: Villa in Denmark on January 01, 2015, 02:26:46 PM
He'll be a hero this season and won't be there at the end of next.

I'd get down the bookies with that one ASAP.

As soon as it becomes obvious he can't get them any higher than 12th, the most loyal fans in the land (or at least within 100m of Apollo 2000's car park) will start whinging about the football and their chairman is most definitely someone who thinks with his wallet.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: SoccerHQ on January 02, 2015, 06:53:43 PM
I don't think I've ever seen such a hideous display of gamesmanship and stretching the rules to breaking point as when we played his Stoke team on one particular occasion. They were never exactly lovable but there was one match when they committed so many fouls the ref gave up penalising them and every throw-in was handled with the solemnity and co-operation by the officials of a ceremonial kick-off in a charity game.

I agree.

I absolutely detested that Stoke side and everything they stood for - no matter how different or effective they were. They were cynical, ruthless and took game management to a whole new level. If Pulis adopts those similar tactics here then I'm sure that will annoy our supporters. I brought into the Mowbray football snobbery so this is already a difficult appointment to take but his Palace side were a lot more easier on the eye and I would hope we would be similar to that.

Pulis though is what we need - we're at a stage where we cannot pick someone with a style, we need someone to come in and kick this club into gear, rid the players of their attitude and start setting down a foundation for us to build from.

I see him as another Megson for you lot who I reckon is still your most popular ex manager of recent times alongside Hodgson.

Megson was very long ball and direct.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Ads on January 02, 2015, 07:29:41 PM
Albion fans live in a dream world. They haven't played good football in decades. Mowbray had them passing and claiming moral victories all the way to 28 points. Hodgson had them playing dour, defensive football, where they looked ok away, but garbage at home.

Pulis played awful football at Stoke, but the concept of West Brazil isn't based in reality.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 03, 2015, 03:39:36 AM
Fingers crossed for another Tim Buzagalo in the FA Cup!
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Damo70 on January 03, 2015, 04:03:34 PM
From what I have witnessed from the lower North stand when Pulis' Stoke came to town, some of Ryan Shawcross' defending at set pieces is borderline sexual assault. My wife hasn't grabbed me like that in years.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Liam_Baggies on January 05, 2015, 08:06:19 PM
I see him as another Megson for you lot who I reckon is still your most popular ex manager of recent times alongside Hodgson.

Megson was very long ball and direct.

Megson was what was needed at the time and Pulis is in exactly the same boat now.

Hodgson had a sticky spell at The Hawthorns but on the whole the football we played was entertaining. I actually expected to turn up to home games expecting victories where at the moment I dread them because we're so easy to walk over.

I feared Pulis would turn us into some hoofball unit but he said he will create a system and style to suit the squad for players - one thing is for sure is that this squad is not suited to hoofball and some of the thuggery that his Stoke side displayed so regularly.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on January 05, 2015, 08:12:42 PM
Hasn't he already said he wants Crouch?
Crouch in team = hoofball.


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Post by: Liam_Baggies on January 05, 2015, 09:40:30 PM
Don't think he's said that as far as I'm aware. I expect us to get linked with a lot of Stoke and Palace players to be honest
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on January 05, 2015, 09:46:28 PM
Sorry mate - paper talk/gossip/rumour.
I should know better.

He may be linked with a few...not many.
They're no better than he's already got imho.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Richard E on January 06, 2015, 12:19:05 PM
They have appointed Paul Jewell and the Bobby Davro lookalike who used to assist Pulis at Stoke as his backroom team so they are really aiming high!
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Villa in Denmark on January 06, 2015, 08:12:35 PM
They have appointed Paul Jewell and the Bobby Davro lookalike who used to assist Pulis at Stoke as his backroom team so they are really aiming high!


West Brom boss Tony Pulis confirms backroom staff

 (http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/12040/9634226/premier-league-west-brom-boss-tony-pulis-confirms-backroom-staff)
Quote from: SKY sports
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I don’t know what I’ve done to suffer Kempy again but I suppose I will have to put up with him!" Pulis told West Brom’s official website.

"Jewelly’ is someone I have known for a long time. We got to know each other on coaching courses as well as in opposition – he has massive experience and when I thought about what I wanted for this post, he fitted the bill perfectly.

Now that's what I call a proper football bloke.

"With Kempy and Jewelly and Tony Tony Pulis, we're one step from oblivion"
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Post by: LeeB on January 06, 2015, 10:14:35 PM
I'm disappointed to see Jewell back in the game, as the sight of him puts that horrible picture of his sex face into mind.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: peter w on January 06, 2015, 10:18:24 PM
So, if Pulis goes Jewell is there...hmmmm....
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Post by: Damo70 on January 07, 2015, 09:45:52 AM
I'm disappointed to see Jewell back in the game, as the sight of him puts that horrible picture of his sex face into mind.

I bet you won't get that drunk again. It is an alternative joke to The Crawford factor. Get drunk, beer goggles time, go to bed with Cindy but wake up with Michael.

Pulled a jewell last night. Unfortunately it was Paul.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: LeeB on January 07, 2015, 09:53:42 AM
I'm disappointed to see Jewell back in the game, as the sight of him puts that horrible picture of his sex face into mind.

I bet you won't get that drunk again. It is an alternative joke to The Crawford factor. Get drunk, beer goggles time, go to bed with Cindy but wake up with Michael.

Pulled a jewell last night. Unfortunately it was Paul.

And it's speaking from bitter experience when I say, beware the scouser bearing crystal meth.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Exeter 77 on January 07, 2015, 08:40:33 PM
The FA Cup draw may mean something is rubbing off.

http://www.waste of paper.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/west-brom-coaching-target-carlo-8394122
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Damo70 on January 09, 2015, 05:57:37 PM
The FA Cup draw may mean something is rubbing off.

http://www.waste of paper.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/west-brom-coaching-target-carlo-8394122

I am pretty sure he has some similar 'previous'.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Richard E on January 13, 2015, 09:48:43 PM
Apparently Paul Jewell has quit already.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: dave shelley on January 13, 2015, 09:53:08 PM
SSN reporting it.  No reason given.

*awaits barrage of puns
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Richard E on January 13, 2015, 09:58:49 PM
SSN reporting it.  No reason given.

*awaits barrage of puns

At least they've still got Bobby Davro.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Liam_Baggies on January 13, 2015, 10:15:10 PM
Replaced with Gerry Francis.

Francis was always going to join - Jewell won't be a massive loss.

Now to try and get that hideous photo out of my memory!  ;D
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 13, 2015, 10:40:15 PM
Apparently Paul Jewell has quit already.

Fell out with Pulis on being asked to oversee long throw training.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 13, 2015, 11:57:02 PM
He should be sacked for crimes against fashion, the baseball cap wearing twat nozzle.

(http://www.greatbarrobserver.co.uk/images/localworld/ugc-images/276669/Article/images/25838147/9305752-large.jpg)
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on January 14, 2015, 12:21:59 AM
Replaced with Gerry Francis.

Francis was always going to join - Jewell won't be a massive loss.

Now to try and get that hideous photo out of my memory!  ;D

Finally Francis' hair has found it's natural home.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Damo70 on January 14, 2015, 09:37:09 AM
He should be sacked for crimes against fashion, the baseball cap wearing twat nozzle.

(http://www.greatbarrobserver.co.uk/images/localworld/ugc-images/276669/Article/images/25838147/9305752-large.jpg)

Twat nozzle. Fantastic. From now on Pulis will always be twat nozzle to me. At the Crewe cup tie in 1989 my cousin's husband called Keown a "curly haired bag of twats". To this day it makes me smile whenever he is on TV.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: spangley1812 on January 14, 2015, 11:05:40 AM
Paul Jewell has said his departure from West Brom was not by mutual consent and the former Wigan boss has said the matter is now with his lawyers.

Jewell left his role as joint-assistant head coach, just a week after he joined new boss Tony Pulis' team.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Damo70 on January 14, 2015, 11:31:40 AM
I'm disappointed to see Jewell back in the game, as the sight of him puts that horrible picture of his sex face into mind.

I can't help but think someone from Albion read this post, couldn't get it out of their mind like the mind bleach thread and had to get rid of him.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 14, 2015, 03:44:56 PM
The joys of a new manager (II). http://thebirminghampress.com/2015/01/route-one-from-relegation/
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: adrenachrome on January 14, 2015, 04:03:10 PM
The joys of a new manager (II). http://thebirminghampress.com/2015/01/route-one-from-relegation/ (http://thebirminghampress.com/2015/01/route-one-from-relegation/)

Interesting that Pulis has said Berahino will stay unless they get a ridiculous bid. A cynic would say he is inviting a high bid.

On Jewell's departure, it seems he was asked to take a pay cut to accommodate Gerry Francis' arrival.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Damo70 on January 14, 2015, 04:58:51 PM
The joys of a new manager (II). http://thebirminghampress.com/2015/01/route-one-from-relegation/

Interesting that Pulis has said Berahino will stay unless they get a ridiculous bid. A cynic would say he is inviting a high bid.

On Jewell's departure, it seems he was asked to take a pay cut to accommodate Gerry Francis' arrival.
On Jew

He was particularly offended that the message was delivered by one of Gerry's pigeons.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Comrade Blitz on January 16, 2015, 02:07:42 PM
Now that Berahino has been banned for driving for 12 months, it has made me wonder.....

How do these footballers get around when they've had a driving ban? Will he be rolling up to the Hawthorns on the tram or the 74, 75 or 79 bus? Is there a "Ring and Ride" for footballers?
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Damo70 on January 16, 2015, 04:37:40 PM
Now that Berahino has been banned for driving for 12 months, it has made me wonder.....

How do these footballers get around when they've had a driving ban? Will he be rolling up to the Hawthorns on the tram or the 74, 75 or 79 bus? Is there a "Ring and Ride" for footballers?

Manchester United used to have a Ring N' Ride service. Ryan Giggs' brother's missus.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Clampy on January 22, 2015, 09:59:36 AM
Maybe there wasn't enough people there to hold two banners.

http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2015/01/22/albion-fans-blocked-sir-jack-hayward-memorial-banner-from-baggies-game-claim/
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 22, 2015, 10:04:27 AM
Maybe there wasn't enough people there to hold two banners.

http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2015/01/22/albion-fans-blocked-sir-jack-hayward-memorial-banner-from-baggies-game-claim/

But they'm such lovely cuddly bestests.
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Post by: Clampy on January 22, 2015, 10:07:05 AM
Justice for Jack.
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Post by: peter w on January 22, 2015, 06:26:55 PM
Did you see their applause for Asrle? camera's focus on the crowdand the first thing that struck was...there weren't many there was there?
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Clampy on January 23, 2015, 03:41:51 PM
They're signing Shola Ameobi apparently. I don't think that's going to go down well in Smethwick.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 23, 2015, 04:19:23 PM
33 years old and makes our strikers seem prolific!
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Post by: Villa in Denmark on January 23, 2015, 06:36:26 PM
I always think it's an 80s soul singer they're talking about when I hear his name.

Mind you, an 80s soul singer will probably have had more hits over the last 10 years. :-)
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: joe_c on January 24, 2015, 11:28:10 PM
Still reluctant to celebrate goals against non-league opposition I see.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Damo70 on January 25, 2015, 03:46:25 AM
Still reluctant to celebrate goals against non-league opposition I see.

If he gets done with that drink driving charge and continues to break the law he can't afford to alienate the club most likely to sign him.
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Post by: LeeB on January 25, 2015, 09:33:18 AM
I always think it's an 80s soul singer they're talking about when I hear his name.

Mind you, an 80s soul singer will probably have had more hits over the last 10 years. :-)

Are you thinking of 90's one hit wonder, Shola Ama?
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Post by: spangley1812 on January 26, 2015, 03:06:53 PM
The Express and Star report that West Brom could miss out on former Newcastle striker Shola Ameobi, despite agreeing a deal in principle. Crystal Palace are thought to have offered the 33-year-old better terms.
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Post by: Damo70 on January 26, 2015, 04:06:18 PM
The Express and Star report that West Brom could miss out on former Newcastle striker Shola Ameobi, despite agreeing a deal in principle. Crystal Palace are thought to have offered the 33-year-old better terms.

He must have Derren Brown as his agent.
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Post by: cdbullyweefan on February 02, 2015, 03:10:56 PM
Brown Ideye off to Qatar for 5 million Euros. I wonder if Albion might consider watching players before they sign them in future?
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 02, 2015, 03:13:41 PM
It's probably only a million but they are trying to sell more ST so have made up a  transfer fee.
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Post by: Clampy on February 02, 2015, 04:40:46 PM
It's probably only a million but they are trying to sell more ST so have made up a  transfer fee.

It wasn't the best of excuses was it?
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Post by: LeeB on February 02, 2015, 05:34:43 PM
"Did he have much of an impact?"

"Ideye"
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Post by: cheltenhamlion on February 02, 2015, 05:36:50 PM
So they are starting Anichebe and want Ameobi as back up? No illusions on how they will be playing then.
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Post by: spangley1812 on February 02, 2015, 09:46:06 PM
Carlton Cole, Darren Fletcher and Martin Olsson all signing for Tesco Bags tonight
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Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on February 02, 2015, 09:47:25 PM
Carlton Cole, Darren Fletcher and Martin Olsson all signing for Tesco Bags tonight

I'd laugh, but then I remember we're the ones with Paul Lambert as our manager.
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Post by: Damo70 on February 02, 2015, 09:58:33 PM
Carlton Cole, Darren Fletcher and Martin Olsson all signing for Tesco Bags tonight

Three solid, experiences signings. Typical Pulis. The sort of players who will keep you up without setting the world alight.
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Post by: Villan For Life on February 03, 2015, 06:37:21 AM
Carlton Cole, Darren Fletcher and Martin Olsson all signing for Tesco Bags tonight

Three solid, experiences signings. Typical Pulis. The sort of players who will keep you up without setting the world alight.

Shame that two of the deals collapsed at the 11th hour. They just got Fletcher.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Damo70 on February 03, 2015, 10:10:06 AM
Carlton Cole, Darren Fletcher and Martin Olsson all signing for Tesco Bags tonight

Three solid, experiences signings. Typical Pulis. The sort of players who will keep you up without setting the world alight.

Shame that two of the deals collapsed at the 11th hour. They just got Fletcher.

His medical will show he has got flat feet.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on February 05, 2015, 10:37:22 AM
A supporter of a Tony Pulis side speaks. http://thebirminghampress.com/2015/02/spurred-off/
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Post by: Des Little on February 08, 2015, 10:36:31 PM
Lowest attendance of the Prem season today to watch Sandwell at Burnley. They know what they are.
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Post by: Damo70 on February 08, 2015, 10:41:15 PM
Lowest attendance of the Prem season today to watch Sandwell at Burnley. They know what they are.

How many were there?
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 08, 2015, 10:47:58 PM
16,904.
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Post by: Damo70 on February 08, 2015, 10:51:30 PM
Thankyou. What happened to the marching band footage I requested?
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 08, 2015, 10:58:40 PM
(http://s1.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/ohio-stat-marching-band-surfer-formation-marching-band-gifs.gif)
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Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on February 08, 2015, 11:02:02 PM
Thankyou. What happened to the marching band footage I requested?
It was used for the entrance of Lambert's post-match interview.

;-)
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Post by: Damo70 on February 08, 2015, 11:10:00 PM
(http://s1.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/ohio-stat-marching-band-surfer-formation-marching-band-gifs.gif)


Can we have an Ed Stewpot Stewart singalong on the pre match thread on Tuesday?
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 08, 2015, 11:11:50 PM
No. But you can have one now. All together now "we know what they are"

(http://www.radiorewind.co.uk/images/ed_stewart_class.jpg)
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Post by: Damo70 on February 08, 2015, 11:17:48 PM
Is that a young Cheggers slightly obscured by the microphone stand?
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on February 09, 2015, 12:08:29 PM
16,904.

Expected a few more from Burnley.

I think it was our lowest turn out of the season - around 1,200 but it was probably our best turn out too.

A good vocal backing and I'd much rather have the 1200 every other week rather than the 7,000 or whatever it was that jumped on the Blues bandwaggon.

That bloody 12pm kick off was a ball-ache though. I hadn't long got in on Saturday before I had to get up again  ;D
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Post by: ADVILLAFAN on February 09, 2015, 12:15:17 PM
16,904.

Expected a few more from Burnley.

I think it was our lowest turn out of the season - around 1,200 but it was probably our best turn out too.

A good vocal backing and I'd much rather have the 1200 every other week rather than the 7,000 or whatever it was that jumped on the Blues bandwaggon.

That bloody 12pm kick off was a ball-ache though. I hadn't long got in on Saturday before I had to get up again  ;D

Can't say I was impressed with Turf Moor, 1 bar and 2 toilets between 3000 away fans and we were all packed in with no space to move. If there was a fire, we'd all be done for.
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Post by: DeKuip on February 09, 2015, 12:50:34 PM
16,904.

Expected a few more from Burnley.

I think it was our lowest turn out of the season - around 1,200 but it was probably our best turn out too.

A good vocal backing and I'd much rather have the 1200 every other week rather than the 7,000 or whatever it was that jumped on the Blues bandwaggon.

That bloody 12pm kick off was a ball-ache though. I hadn't long got in on Saturday before I had to get up again  ;D

Can't say I was impressed with Turf Moor, 1 bar and 2 toilets between 3000 away fans and we were all packed in with no space to move. If there was a fire, we'd all be done for.
More than that, we had 4,046 in there this season. Definitely the worst stand to try and get out of though, it needs another exit somehow to cope with Premier League away followings - or empty the front section via the pitch and through the players' tunnel!
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on February 09, 2015, 06:12:01 PM
I like Turf Moor though - a proper traditional, shite football ground. Give me a place like Turf Moor rather than somewhere like the Etihad or the King Power etc. I quite like the wooden seats, the appalling toilet facilities and the pillars that hold the stand up. For me, they remind me of my first seasons following football. Much like Villa Park, it is a ground with character and soul and there's not many of those knocking around nowadays.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 12, 2015, 05:46:58 PM
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He may be known as one of the wiliest football managers in the Premier League, but West Bromwich Albion manager Tony Pulis has been outwitted by a player from Northern Ireland's third division.

Limavady United midfielder Blain Morrison hoodwinked Pulis with an impersonation of fellow countryman and Bolton Wanderers boss Neil Lennon during a prank call.

When the Welshman returned his phone message he coaxed him into believing Lennon was making a loan bid for Northern Ireland international defender Gareth McAuley.

Limavady United midfielder Blain Morrison called West Bromwich Albion manager Tony Pulis pretending to be Neil Lennon
West Bromwich Albion have confirmed that Pulis was taken in by the phone call.

During the call, Pulis was not in the mood for letting the Larne man leave the Hawthorns however, describing him as a "top lad".

Happy to continue the conversation, he hinted he would have a think about other options.

Now Morrison hopes the Baggies' chief has taken his prank call, which was recorded and is proving popular on social media, in the right spirit.

"I was with the team on Saturday night outside our social club and someone came up with a number for Tony Pulis, I rang him and I couldn't believe it when he called back," he said.

"I decided to pretend to be Neil Lennon because of the Northern Ireland accent and I asked about bringing Gareth McAuley on loan because he is a Northern Ireland player.

"I thought the call would last a few seconds and didn't expect it to last any longer.

"I hope Tony Pulis is not offended and sees the funny side and takes it in the right spirit."

Morrison, 27, says that despite being able to engage the top-flight manager in conversation he does not envisage being offered a career in full-time football.

"I don't think he is that desperate just yet," he joked.

A Tottenham Hotspur fan, he is still smarting from their defeat to Liverpool on Tuesday night prompting suggestions of another potential victim.

"I would like to do Brendan Rodgers, but with the accent and him coming from Northern Ireland, it might be too hard," he added.
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Post by: cdbullyweefan on February 12, 2015, 06:19:12 PM
It was a bit of a shit lie. He's already said he picked Lennon as he has a Northern Irish accent. Why not pretend to be, say, Brendan Rodgers and make a bid for Berahino? That would've had a far greater potential for larkery than, chuckle, pretending to, snigger, get Gareth, ha ha!, McAuley on loan.
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Post by: Witton Warrior on February 12, 2015, 08:43:25 PM
Had the first piss-takes from Albion lads on FB - they have been silent for half a season but now emerge from under their stones blinking in the sunlight of a Pulis-inspired golden dawn of safety...
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Post by: Damo70 on February 12, 2015, 10:29:23 PM
Had the first piss-takes from Albion lads on FB - they have been silent for half a season but now emerge from under their stones blinking in the sunlight of a Pulis-inspired golden dawn of safety...

The football antichrist saving English club footballs version of the Brazilian national team. Like the prophet Mohammed boosting the flagging image of the Catholic church or Jesus rising from the dead (again) to improve the reputation of Muslims. Like when Cindy Beale took over the Rovers Return or like when Steve Davis took up nine ball pool.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 17, 2015, 06:51:31 PM
It's always a good idea to let folks know where up to £2k in cash is going to be.

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Albion have released details of this season’s free coach offer for the 316-mile round trip to Crystal Palace.

The Baggies are due to meet the Eagles in a Premier League clash on April 18.

The fixture is subject to potential change were Tony Pulis’s team successful in their FA Cup quarter final against Aston Villa – the weekend of the Palace game is scheduled to stage the semi-finals.

But the club are again planning to put on up to 40 coaches capable of transporting 2,000 fans to Selhurst.

Fans can book their place when they buy their match tickets. A deposit of £1 is required which will then be returned by stewards at the start of the journey.
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Post by: BackpassBatson on February 18, 2015, 03:53:00 PM
Had the first piss-takes from Albion lads on FB - they have been silent for half a season but now emerge from under their stones blinking in the sunlight of a Pulis-inspired golden dawn of safety...

The football antichrist saving English club footballs version of the Brazilian national team. Like the prophet Mohammed boosting the flagging image of the Catholic church or Jesus rising from the dead (again) to improve the reputation of Muslims. Like when Cindy Beale took over the Rovers Return or like when Steve Davis took up nine ball pool.

Unfortunately, needs must and he was the best of the realistic candidates out there. I hope that we don't continue to go in this direction, though. But that is way off and I suppose we are just focused on safety.
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Post by: BackpassBatson on February 18, 2015, 03:54:08 PM
Lowest attendance of the Prem season today to watch Sandwell at Burnley. They know what they are.

I fail to see how that is an indictment on us, rather than on Burnley fans. Hey ho.
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Post by: BackpassBatson on February 18, 2015, 03:55:40 PM
Brown Ideye off to Qatar for 5 million Euros. I wonder if Albion might consider watching players before they sign them in future?

He was, by the scouting staff. Didn't John Gregory sign players after only watching them on video?
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Post by: BackpassBatson on February 18, 2015, 03:59:52 PM
I see you have changed my username from DislikeWhingingBrummies. Sensitive, are we?

I think I will go and log on a forum with Moderators who aren't weak, and who can spell your club's nickname correctly, and I will leave you all to it. I imagine you all on here looking like and dressing like Woodhall, which is never good.
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Post by: AVH87 on February 18, 2015, 04:03:30 PM
Lowest attendance of the Prem season today to watch Sandwell at Burnley. They know what they are.

I fail to see how that is an indictment on us, rather than on Burnley fans. Hey ho.

Surely it's partly down to the fact that you took what was probably the smallest, or close to the smallest away following of all visiting teams this season. E.g if it had been us going up there on that day the attendance would have been 20k.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 18, 2015, 04:04:42 PM
I see you have changed my username from DislikeWhingingBrummies. Sensitive, are we?

I think I will go and log on a forum with Moderators who aren't weak, and who can spell your club's nickname correctly, and I will leave you all to it. I imagine you all on here looking like and dressing like Woodhall, which is never good.

Bye. Thanks for stopping by. It was emotional.
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Post by: ADVILLAFAN on February 18, 2015, 04:12:11 PM
I had heard that there were West Brom fans that were a bit like Noses, but never noticed one before now.   :)
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Post by: dave.woodhall on February 18, 2015, 04:14:03 PM
We're not having them turning us into Rivals c2000 again, are we? And it's Mr Woodhall or Sir to you.
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Post by: Legion on February 18, 2015, 05:00:32 PM
Too right, Boss.
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Post by: DeKuip on February 18, 2015, 05:57:52 PM
I see you have changed my username from DislikeWhingingBrummies. Sensitive, are we?

I think I will go and log on a forum with Moderators who aren't weak, and who can spell your club's nickname correctly, and I will leave you all to it. I imagine you all on here looking like and dressing like Woodhall, which is never good.

I used to go and play football in the road during half-term, why don't you.
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Post by: Damo70 on February 19, 2015, 12:46:06 AM
We're not having them turning us into Rivals c2000 again, are we? And it's Mr Woodhall or Sir to you.

I can't believe he had the cheek to call you solely by your surname. It reminded me of the time I had to admonish Nev for referring to Lizzie from Prisoner Cell Block H as 'Birdsworth'. Not that I'm comparing you to a dried up old lush.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on February 19, 2015, 01:11:35 AM
We're not having them turning us into Rivals c2000 again, are we? And it's Mr Woodhall or Sir to you.

I can't believe he had the cheek to call you solely by your surname. It reminded me of the time I had to admonish Nev for referring to Lizzie from Prisoner Cell Block H as 'Birdsworth'. Not that I'm comparing you to a dried up old lush.

You wouldn't be the first.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on February 19, 2015, 11:11:51 AM
Here's what a normal one  thinks. http://thebirminghampress.com/2015/02/swans-hammered/
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Post by: Clampy on February 20, 2015, 07:28:08 AM
I see you have changed my username from DislikeWhingingBrummies. Sensitive, are we?

I think I will go and log on a forum with Moderators who aren't weak, and who can spell your club's nickname correctly, and I will leave you all to it. I imagine you all on here looking like and dressing like Woodhall, which is never good.

Why don't you, just as an idea, try logging onto an Albion forum? Just a thought.
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Post by: LeeB on February 20, 2015, 02:08:06 PM
I see you have changed my username from DislikeWhingingBrummies. Sensitive, are we?

I think I will go and log on a forum with Moderators who aren't weak, and who can spell your club's nickname correctly, and I will leave you all to it. I imagine you all on here looking like and dressing like Woodhall, which is never good.

Why don't you, just as an idea, try logging onto an Albion forum? Just a thought.

Probably because like their backwards cousins up the road, there's not enough of them to have decent message board.
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Post by: AVH87 on February 20, 2015, 03:07:24 PM
An Albion fan made a great point on Twitter the other day 'all these fans moaning they won't be able to get a ticket for Villa will be nowhere to be seen at Sunderland away on Saturday'.

For the record, they are taking just 1200 to the North East tomorrow.
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Post by: Ads on February 20, 2015, 03:52:43 PM
An Albion fan made a great point on Twitter the other day 'all these fans moaning they won't be able to get a ticket for Villa will be nowhere to be seen at Sunderland away on Saturday'.

For the record, they are taking just 1200 to the North East tomorrow.

It's a valid point. Their away support is toss; 500 to Goodison, 1000 to Burnley, 1200 to Sunderland.

As long as the 500-1200 Albion fans who seem to be bothered about watching them play at an away venue greater than 4 miles away can get tickets, then the rest can whistle.
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on February 22, 2015, 08:50:58 PM
Am I allowed to refer to you as Woodhall, Dave? ;D
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Post by: dave.woodhall on February 22, 2015, 09:01:23 PM
Am I allowed to refer to you as Woodhall, Dave? ;D

No.

Now, can you answer the question - why are your supporters the only ones who ever come on  here trying to turn us into Rivals from 15 years ago? I know enough of you to know you're not all like that but nobody else does it. Can't they all go and support Hereford like that other sad twat did?
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on February 22, 2015, 09:12:15 PM
Now, can you answer the question - why are your supporters the only ones who ever come on  here trying to turn us into Rivals from 15 years ago? I know enough of you to know you're not all like that but nobody else does it. Can't they all go and support Hereford like that other sad twat did?

God knows.

Our forum is exactly the same though - we have people sign up who support Villa and Stoke looking purely to wind up and get a reaction.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on February 22, 2015, 09:15:02 PM
Now, can you answer the question - why are your supporters the only ones who ever come on  here trying to turn us into Rivals from 15 years ago? I know enough of you to know you're not all like that but nobody else does it. Can't they all go and support Hereford like that other sad twat did?

God knows.

Our forum is exactly the same though - we have people sign up who support Villa and Stoke looking purely to wind up and get a reaction.

We used to have Stoke fans who wanted to be our friends. 
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on February 22, 2015, 09:30:57 PM
We used to get them winding us up because we never beat them. They don't tend to last on forum too long.

The Villa fans were pretty much the same only we got a few more mentions of attendances and some event in 1982 that I've not been told about yet  ;D

I don't think we've ever had a Wolves fan on our forum since we beat 'em 5-1.
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Post by: Damo70 on February 23, 2015, 05:25:36 PM
Am I allowed to refer to you as Woodhall, Dave? ;D

Nobody has been allowed to call him that since he finished his National Service. ;)
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Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on March 03, 2015, 10:56:45 PM
94th minute penalty. Oh well.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Dave on March 04, 2015, 10:48:20 PM
While on that WestBrom forum that's been linked a bit since last night, they're currently running a poll on their best ever Premier League XI.

They've only done the back seven so far but of those seven, four of them were part of that pile of rubbish that played last night. Foster, Lescott, McAuley and Yacob are four of the best eleven players they've had in the Premier League era.

It's not quite up there with having Robbie Savage as one of your club's all-time greats, but how terribly depressing that must be.
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Post by: PeterWithe on March 05, 2015, 04:46:04 PM
But is that their best players since 92 or their best players that have played in the Premier League, which would be a fairly small pool I'd imagine?
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Post by: Dave on March 05, 2015, 05:28:41 PM
The latter - but when they were pottering around midtable in Division One (as twas), you wouldn't have thought that many of those players who weren't good enough to get them promoted are going to be among their best players.
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Post by: Damo70 on March 05, 2015, 08:50:22 PM
Could we have a clever linky ting to their best PL eleven? There must be some fun to be had picking the bones out of some of those selections. Plus a few players we had forgotten existed.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 05, 2015, 08:52:09 PM
I think it's different threads for each position. Just use the link in Liam's thread to find them.
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Post by: Damo70 on March 05, 2015, 09:29:27 PM
I can't be bothered, so off the top of my head (although being a yo yo club it is confusing who has or hasn't actually played in the PL for them) -

Russell Hoult, Sean Gregan, Liam Ridgewell, Darren Purse, Richard Chaplow, Darren Carter, Andy Johnson, Craig Gardner, Roman Bedner, Georges Samaras, Marc Antoine Fortune.

Quite sad when you compare those names to legends like Mark Grew, Barry Cowdrill, Clive Whitehead, Colin Anderson and Nicky Cross.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: PeterWithe on March 05, 2015, 09:39:33 PM
Remember George Reilly, he had a poise that made Ormondroyd look like Zidane.
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Post by: Bren'd on March 05, 2015, 11:37:11 PM
George Riley did us a big favour in his playing days at Cambridge Utd. Fortunately, his goal knocked us out of the League cup in 1982. It didn't seem like a great favour at the time.
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Post by: OzVilla on March 06, 2015, 05:35:41 AM
George Riley did us a big favour in his playing days at Cambridge Utd. Fortunately, his goal knocked us out of the League cup in 1982. It didn't seem like a great favour at the time.

That was in 1980, he also had a mare against us when the Boggies played him at Centre Half in a LC Cup match at The Hawthorns - I think it was Warren Aspinall that tore him a new one that night ...................................................................................... yes I said Warren Aspinall.
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Post by: Bren'd on March 06, 2015, 10:41:03 AM
George Riley did us a big favour in his playing days at Cambridge Utd. Fortunately, his goal knocked us out of the League cup in 1982. It didn't seem like a great favour at the time.

That was in 1980, he also had a mare against us when the Boggies played him at Centre Half in a LC Cup match at The Hawthorns - I think it was Warren Aspinall that tore him a new one that night ...................................................................................... yes I said Warren Aspinall.

You're right.  He did us the favour in the league winning season. 
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Post by: Damo70 on March 06, 2015, 10:50:02 AM
George Riley did us a big favour in his playing days at Cambridge Utd. Fortunately, his goal knocked us out of the League cup in 1982. It didn't seem like a great favour at the time.

That was in 1980, he also had a mare against us when the Boggies played him at Centre Half in a LC Cup match at The Hawthorns - I think it was Warren Aspinall that tore him a new one that night ...................................................................................... yes I said Warren Aspinall.


It was a second division game early in the promotion season. I was going to post about it as soon as someone mentioned George Reilly earlier in the thread. The most inept centre half performance I have ever seen. So bad he made Torben Piechnik's performance against Deano on his home debut look like a cross between Bobby Moore and Paul McGrath. It was Warren Aspinall who filled his boots with a couple of goals that night.
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Post by: Damo70 on March 22, 2015, 02:16:41 AM
Ben Foster ruled out for six months. Let's hope we don't play them again before he recovers. The again, we beat them whoever they stick in goal.
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Post by: PeterWithe on March 22, 2015, 08:22:27 AM
Villa fan apparently.
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Post by: Witton Warrior on March 22, 2015, 02:14:29 PM
Albion mate taking the mick of our defeat on Face Book - no mention of their 3-0 defeat - bizarre people...
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Post by: Damo70 on March 23, 2015, 10:12:43 AM
Albion mate taking the mick of our defeat on Face Book - no mention of their 3-0 defeat - bizarre people...

They lost interest in their own season when they lost twice to us.

Yes, twice.

In a week.

An wim crap. And wim a bunch of arrogant tossers.
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Post by: OzVilla on March 23, 2015, 08:12:39 PM
22% possession against Citeh. I know they played with 10 men but 22% is abysmal.

Must be a near record of % possession since Sky decided it was important.
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Post by: tomd2103 on March 24, 2015, 12:35:52 AM
22% possession against Citeh. I know they played with 10 men but 22% is abysmal.

Must be a near record of % possession since Sky decided it was important.

Lots of empty seats in the away end as well. 
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Post by: Clampy on March 24, 2015, 08:54:55 AM
22% possession against Citeh. I know they played with 10 men but 22% is abysmal.

Must be a near record of % possession since Sky decided it was important.

Lots of empty seats in the away end as well. 

They were probably all in the pub back home watching how we got on.
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on March 24, 2015, 08:49:32 PM
22% possession against Citeh. I know they played with 10 men but 22% is abysmal.

Must be a near record of % possession since Sky decided it was important.

Lots of empty seats in the away end as well.

Hardly surprising - although it was alot better than expected.

Not a cat in hells chance was I going to pay £44. Although that was £13 cheaper than last year. Still a ridiculous price nevertheless.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 24, 2015, 09:28:19 PM
We took about 3x as many to Sunderland as they took to Manchester. We know what they are.


Sorry Liam, couldn't resist.
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on March 24, 2015, 09:36:32 PM
I expect nothing less from yow lot PWS  ;D

I think every Albion fan would admit that your fan base is miles bigger than ours - being relatively successful and remaining in the top flight for the majority of your history has enticed many supporters your way. I guess had one of the other three been in your shoes then they would have the fanbase that you have access to currently.

Albion itself, in terms of fanbase nowadays, is pretty much gridlocked. We don't reach to outsides of Birmingham which are predominantly Villa areas, we don't reach into Staffordshire which will be Wolves & Stoke terrority, so we're stuck with the Black Country areas and outskirts such as Stourbridge, Halesowen etc. Albion seem relatively happy with that, but I would like to have seen the club dig further into the Birmingham/Staffordshire heartlands. I still think we can do more to plug into the Asian community that we have within the Black Country.

Still, I would like to think Albion and Villa - the two traditional West Midlands rivals are reigniting that rivalry now Blues and Wolves are currently out the way. Just a shame that both of us are scrapping for survival until we can both gain some 'big' investment and even that for both clubs looks unlikely.
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Post by: Dr Butler on March 24, 2015, 09:53:38 PM
stop being so nice Liam....I'm not used to Baggies being so...

UTV
The Doc
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Post by: ADVILLAFAN on March 25, 2015, 10:10:21 AM
I watched a bit of 'The Big Match' from April 1979.

At the end they had the top 6 goals from the season and 2 of them were by West Brom (against Manure at Old Trafford).

Also Brighton scored a goal where the Goalkeeper clearly couldn't see due to there being 2 smoke bombs on the pitch. Nice to know that's it isn't just nowadays when people have these annoying things.
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Post by: peter w on March 25, 2015, 10:29:15 AM
In all seriousness Liam (and everyone before the usual people go on) why are you here? You clearly don't like us - and I've no problem with that it's a local rivalry thing - and you're not here to take the piss. Its like many of us going on a Small Heath forum and not taking the piss but just saying mild things. It's always good to read other fan's perspectives and we'll hardly ever agree on football re-Villa and Albion but given your anti- Villa stance on your own site what do you get from being here?
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Post by: Witton Warrior on March 25, 2015, 11:11:54 AM
In all seriousness Liam (and everyone before the usual people go on) why are you here? You clearly don't like us - and I've no problem with that it's a local rivalry thing - and you're not here to take the piss. Its like many of us going on a Small Heath forum and not taking the piss but just saying mild things. It's always good to read other fan's perspectives and we'll hardly ever agree on football re-Villa and Albion but given your anti- Villa stance on your own site what do you get from being here?

Because there's nobody on their forum to talk to

Empty keyboards M'Lord...
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Post by: dave shelley on March 25, 2015, 11:28:23 AM
In all seriousness Liam (and everyone before the usual people go on) why are you here? You clearly don't like us - and I've no problem with that it's a local rivalry thing - and you're not here to take the piss. Its like many of us going on a Small Heath forum and not taking the piss but just saying mild things. It's always good to read other fan's perspectives and we'll hardly ever agree on football re-Villa and Albion but given your anti- Villa stance on your own site what do you get from being here?

Because there's nobody on their forum to talk to

Empty keyboards M'Lord...

I like that.
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Post by: Bren'd on March 25, 2015, 11:45:40 AM
In all seriousness Liam (and everyone before the usual people go on) why are you here? You clearly don't like us - and I've no problem with that it's a local rivalry thing - and you're not here to take the piss. Its like many of us going on a Small Heath forum and not taking the piss but just saying mild things. It's always good to read other fan's perspectives and we'll hardly ever agree on football re-Villa and Albion but given your anti- Villa stance on your own site what do you get from being here?

I think Liam is just sick and tired of posts from people saying this and that 'aye fair' so comes here for a bit of variety and intellectual stimulation.

I have friends who are big Albion fans who hate us (the Villa) with a passion.  That's understandable when you see the amount of times we have beaten them over the last 20 odd years. I think Liam is of the same mould and I welcome his views every now and then.

Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Clampy on March 25, 2015, 01:48:50 PM
I don't have too much of a problem with Liam being on here. I'm not sure why he is though. The last thing I would do is post on another club's site, especially one of a local rival. I just don't see the point.
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Post by: Damo70 on March 25, 2015, 02:44:22 PM
22% possession against Citeh. I know they played with 10 men but 22% is abysmal.

Must be a near record of % possession since Sky decided it was important.

Two live games in the last week or so have finished with exactly 50/50 possession. I can't remember which but it struck me as I couldn't remember seeing that before.
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on March 25, 2015, 07:06:16 PM
In all seriousness Liam (and everyone before the usual people go on) why are you here? You clearly don't like us - and I've no problem with that it's a local rivalry thing - and you're not here to take the piss. Its like many of us going on a Small Heath forum and not taking the piss but just saying mild things. It's always good to read other fan's perspectives and we'll hardly ever agree on football re-Villa and Albion but given your anti- Villa stance on your own site what do you get from being here?

I joined the forum so I could collate some responses for a questionnaire we do on our forum.

You have a thread dedicated to us so I comment from time to time with an Albion perspective.

I also find it interesting to see what you're saying about us.

I don't see a problem with that personally as long as I don't breach any site rules.

PS: Stop following my posts on our forum!  :D
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Post by: Legion on March 25, 2015, 07:16:33 PM
I like you, anyway.
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Post by: Legion on March 25, 2015, 07:18:22 PM
From the site rules:

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Supporters of other teams are welcome to post here - but you will be banned if you step out of line.
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Post by: Stu on March 25, 2015, 09:00:29 PM
Bus-stripey was on at me yesterday - "You'm still in the shite, ay yer?", full of it after he spent the best part of two weeks avoiding me after the two games.

My response of "You had your chance and you blew it" was enough to get him talking in a sensible manner.
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Post by: class-of-82 on March 25, 2015, 09:10:37 PM
"Obsessed with villa you that you are"
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Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on March 25, 2015, 09:17:15 PM
"Obsessed with villa you that you are"
Anagram?
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Post by: Damo70 on March 26, 2015, 01:53:29 AM
In all seriousness Liam (and everyone before the usual people go on) why are you here? You clearly don't like us - and I've no problem with that it's a local rivalry thing - and you're not here to take the piss. Its like many of us going on a Small Heath forum and not taking the piss but just saying mild things. It's always good to read other fan's perspectives and we'll hardly ever agree on football re-Villa and Albion but given your anti- Villa stance on your own site what do you get from being here?

I joined the forum so I could collate some responses for a questionnaire we do on our forum.

You have a thread dedicated to us so I comment from time to time with an Albion perspective.

I also find it interesting to see what you're saying about us.

I don't see a problem with that personally as long as I don't breach any site rules.

PS: Stop following my posts on our forum!  :D


Are you just 'Liam' on the baggies site?

Do they know you sneak over here and fraternise with us?

Does it make you feel dirty afterwards? ;)
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Post by: AVH87 on March 26, 2015, 09:51:07 AM
The difference between us and Albion this season has been the home form. Just look at recent games - Stoke and Swansea at home, we lost both, they won both. Might not always be pretty under Pulis but he grinds out lots of 1-0s in home games.
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Post by: Clampy on March 26, 2015, 12:27:39 PM
Astle Day? Seriously?
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Post by: Damo70 on March 26, 2015, 12:42:42 PM
Astle Day? Seriously?

They have a hired a bouncy castle but the C fell off the advertising poster.
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Post by: Clampy on March 26, 2015, 01:32:36 PM
Astle Day? Seriously?

They have a hired a bouncy castle but the C fell off the advertising poster.

You know what kids are like though. They would have ignored the 'if in doubt, sit it out' sign.
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Post by: peter w on March 26, 2015, 05:58:35 PM
In all seriousness Liam (and everyone before the usual people go on) why are you here? You clearly don't like us - and I've no problem with that it's a local rivalry thing - and you're not here to take the piss. Its like many of us going on a Small Heath forum and not taking the piss but just saying mild things. It's always good to read other fan's perspectives and we'll hardly ever agree on football re-Villa and Albion but given your anti- Villa stance on your own site what do you get from being here?

I joined the forum so I could collate some responses for a questionnaire we do on our forum.

You have a thread dedicated to us so I comment from time to time with an Albion perspective.

I also find it interesting to see what you're saying about us.

I don't see a problem with that personally as long as I don't breach any site rules.

PS: Stop following my posts on our forum!  :D

HA. I don't follow your posts but just go on what other people on here have said.

No, no problem at all with you being here I just find it odd. Would you go on to a Wolves site? If so how are you welcomed there? The Shit? I have seen the odd Villa fan on your forum and wonder how they're perceived also? Obviously having to stay within site rules is one thing but it must be diffuclt when you see your club under attack especially after a defeat. Or even worse, a victory. It must be like having to be quiet in the home end when your team have just won.
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on March 26, 2015, 06:39:08 PM
Astle Day? Seriously?

You're not understanding at all are you?

It is the opening of the Jeff Astle foundation - marked against a club Jeff made his debut for us against.

Their aims and intentions about what they are trying to achieve are all available on the internet.
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Post by: Clampy on March 26, 2015, 06:51:19 PM
Astle Day? Seriously?

You're not understanding at all are you?

It is the opening of the Jeff Astle foundation - marked against a club Jeff made his debut for us against.

Their aims and intentions about what they are trying to achieve are all available on the internet.

It just comes across as 'Jeff this' and 'Jeff that'. It's seems more about the name Astle rather than what they're supposedly trying to achieve, which I'm still not clear on. Maybe you could explain it to me?
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on March 26, 2015, 07:01:22 PM
Well its born out of Jeff's death so hardly surprising it is a foundation listed with his name.

The three aims are relatively simple to be honest - these are snippets from their website.

To raise awareness of brain injury in sport at all levels of the game

Provide education and support for current and future generations.

To work with sports authorities to develop guidelines on concussion and head injury in sport, from grass roots through to the professional game.


I've also read elsewhere when they would like to raise awareness of brain injuries - in particular the likes of concussion, dementia and alzheimers through schools. I know when I was at school we received no information whatsoever on brain injuries and I'm not sure how I would react, or whether I know what concussion actually is.

To work with sports authorities to deliver independent research into the links between brain injury in sport and degenerative brain disease

Despite it being 13 years since Jeff Astle’s death and the insurmountable evidence that sports head injury increases risk of degenerative brain disease, there has been little progress to acknowledge this issue or to support research into this area.

The Jeff Astle Foundation will work closely with the FA and the FA's Independent Expert Panel on Concussion & Head Injury in Sport to deliver this much needed independent research.




To provide support for sports people living with the affects of dementia or chronic neurological impairment

To provide a support system, including financial assistance when needed, to help those sports persons suffering (and their families) from the affects of degenerative brain disease.

We have been contacted by families of former players with dementia all with need of support. While we have done what we can to support them, there is a need to put into place a more robust system.

The Jeff Astle Foundation's ultimate goal is to establish a care home for former sports people with dementia or chronic neurological impairment, who are often younger at diagnosis and require specialist care.




Their website also has pages dedicated to brain related illnesses and their symptoms etc..
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Post by: Exeter 77 on March 26, 2015, 07:24:18 PM
On a slight tangent but still related to one of the points Liam made above I read today that Audkey Harrison has finaly retired (I know some would say he retired years ago) from boxing due to concussive brain injury.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/boxing/32071575
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Post by: dave shelley on March 26, 2015, 07:32:03 PM
Liam, if I may, can I point you in this direction.  You may have heard of it.  The brother of one of our members was instrumental in the founding of it.  A big part of the charity deals with dementia.  All footballing rivalries aside, this affects us all.

sporting memories (http://www.sportingmemoriesnetwork.com/)


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Post by: Liam_Baggies on March 26, 2015, 07:48:01 PM
Liam, if I may, can I point you in this direction.  You may have heard of it.  The brother of one of our members was instrumental in the founding of it.  A big part of the charity deals with dementia.  All footballing rivalries aside, this affects us all.

sporting memories (http://www.sportingmemoriesnetwork.com/)

Interesting website that, Dave. Thank you.

I'll pass that onto the Astle family actually. As the two paths sort of cross they both might be able to help out each other.
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Post by: Chris Jameson on March 26, 2015, 08:00:19 PM
Liam, I know Claire is aware of SMN, she was a very early supporter of the charity and I know my brother has been in contact with her over the years, be great to get some Baggies memories added to the site if you fancy mobilising the troops, they get put to very good use!
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Post by: dave.woodhall on March 27, 2015, 06:24:26 PM
I've just been reading about this Three Degrees statue they're raising money for. Given we got our funds without too much trouble, I have a rough idea of the costings involved and so far they've had thirty grand from Sandwell Council to kick it off, Skinner doing a gig in town, two dinners, four grand from an auction, an art show, presumably other fund-raising from supporters and now one of Laurie Cunningham's caps is being auctioned, is it going to be made of solid gold?
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Post by: steamer on March 27, 2015, 10:30:02 PM
It all seems a very noble cause.
We supported Petrov because it was , here today and idendifiable with.
Astle was a well known player, so you can only guess at the players in lower leagues who had problems that never saw the light of day.
But , without being cynical you could say that of almost any trade or proffesion has practices  where as time goes by everything that someone does is exposed to risk.
Good luck with the awareness and I hope it helps some individuals.
But , "Astle still lost the world cup"
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Post by: Damo70 on March 28, 2015, 12:14:13 AM
I've just been reading about this Three Degrees statue they're raising money for. Given we got our funds without too much trouble, I have a rough idea of the costings involved and so far they've had thirty grand from Sandwell Council to kick it off, Skinner doing a gig in town, two dinners, four grand from an auction, an art show, presumably other fund-raising from supporters and now one of Laurie Cunningham's caps is being auctioned, is it going to be made of solid gold?

I must be going barmy. I thought they had already unveiled that statue a couple of years ago. Did I read about plans for it and just imagine the rest?
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 28, 2015, 12:25:53 AM
A quick Google and I see an announcement for it August 2012 and then this in November last year. As Dave says, what the smeg are they making it from?

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Plans to unveil a statue in honour of Albion’s legendary Three Degrees have been delayed while organisers bid to gain final funding for the project.

A glittering fund-raising dinner at Birmingham’s ICC has also been cancelled.

But organisers say they are confident the £200,000 Celebration statue will finally be unveiled next summer - a year after its planned appearance in July.

The bronze statue, set to be sited in West Bromwich’s New Square shopping development, features ex-Baggies stars Cyrille Regis, Brendon Batson and the late Laurie Cunningham. The trio were credited with inspiring a generation of black professional players in the UK, and were dubbed the Three Degrees by boss Ron Atkinson.

Entrepreneur Jim Cadman admitted there had been difficulties with the project but said the fund was well on its way to achieving its target even though the project was behind its original schedule.

Mr Cadman said: “In the time that has elapsed we have continued with our fundraising. Counting cash and pledges we now have £155,000 towards the target required of £220,000.”

Originally, the date for the unveiling of the statue was put back until next spring but now it has been delayed further. To help raise cash, a host of football dignitaries were expected to attend a £95-a-head gala dinner in Birmingham on November 10, but this was also postponed.

Mr Cadman added that the club’s statue tribute to record-breaking goalscorer Tony Brown had also taken priority.

“It was a wonderful tribute to Tony and the loyalty that he gave to the Baggies in a career which spanned 574 games during which he scored 218 goals for the club.

“Tony has been enormously supportive of our fundraising efforts over the past two years and so we decided to suspend all promotional work on the Celebration statue until December 2014 in order to allow the focus to go deservedly towards the statue of Tony Brown.

“We are now gearing up to go again and the Laurie Cunningham tribute dinner will now take place in the spring of next year when his son Sergio and his mother will be joining us. The profits from this dinner - plus a small number of business supporters - will take us closer to our target,” added Mr Cadman.

He said that talks were ongoing with a number of football’s governing bodies which have pledged financial support to go alongside a £30,000 donation from Sandwell Council.

Mr Cadman continued: “With the continuing backing of Sandwell Council and our dedicated band of volunteers we are hoping to unveil the Celebration Statue in July 2015.”The statue was designed by renowned British sculptor Graham Ibbeson.
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Post by: Damo70 on March 28, 2015, 12:28:15 AM
Which will come first? The Albion statue, Small Heath's new stadium, Coventry 'being back' or world peace. Place your bets.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 28, 2015, 12:35:19 AM
And also this from that twat Howell from a couple of days ago. I'm pretty sure there have been better games before and since then Bill. and i'm saying nowt about that last bit.

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“Letting the ball beat Houston and he’s away again to show that pace and grace and control. It’s a nicely weighted little pass for Ally Brown who turns inside Brian Greenhoff... on for Regis... Oh What a Goal!”

The words of commentator Gerald Sinstadt at Old Trafford on 30 December 1978 will long live on.

Has there even been a better game of football?

Laurie Cunningham led Manchester United a merry dance in THAT 5-3 victory.


From Brisbane Road to the Bernabeu via The Hawthorns, only now are folk beginning to wake up to his incredible story of that of the other two degrees.

Cunningham was the first black player capped by England at Under-21 level.

He should have beaten Viv Anderson to the big one. Only Ron Greenwood can explain why he preferred Peter Barnes and why he waited so long to hand Cunningham a first cap against Wales in 1979.

Cunningham should be 59 and earning a living reminiscing about the good old days.

But he was killed in a car crash in Madrid at the age of 33, shortly after meeting the incoming president of Rayo Vallecano, Pedro Garcia Jiminez, over a new contract.

How Albion fell off a cliff without him.

“The saddest thing,” said Cyrille Regis speaking from Spain yesterday before flying back for a tribute dinner at The Hawthorns tonight, “is that we never got to see the best of him.

“He was 23 when he was signed by Real Madrid and should have been looking forward to enjoying his peak years around 28 or 29.

“The trajectory that he was on meant that he would have been a world beater, a superstar.

“He was joining a great side but injuries cut him off in his prime.”

Regis’ life changed the day his best friend was killed on the A6 near to the city of Pozuelo de Alarcon.

“The great thing about Laurie,” he says, ”is that he was a pioneer.

"To second and third generations of footballers it is Laurie they remember. I was big and powerful, Laurie was balletic, classy, he played on his toes.

"Ron Atkinson used to say that when it snowed he wouldn’t leave any footprints in the snow. He inspired folk with that first Under-21 call-up. That is his legacy.”

The sold-out Cunningham Tribute Dinner tonight will see ten members of Cunningham’s family take centre stage, including his brother Keith and his son Sergio.

Five members of the swashbuckling 1978/79 side will be there: Regis and Brendon Batson, of course, and also Ally Robertson, Tony Brown and Ally Brown.

Centre-back Robertson says Cunningham was as good as they come: “For those two seasons at Albion he was the best player in England,” he said.

“He was out of this world. He was as good as George Best. But whereas George turned it on for how many years, Laurie picked up injuries. He would have been an unbelievable player in Spain.

“The hope was always that we could have kept that team together and then we would have won something. We were just lucky to be a part of something special. Against Valencia that one night in December 1978 he opened everyone’s eyes.”

A Uefa Cup tie in Valencia on 6 December 1978 changed Cunningham’s life.

Real Madrid came in with the best part of a million pounds and although he was only at the club for two and a half years and only played 58 official matches he left his mark.

Supported by Vicente Del Bosque’s skill and Uli Stielke’s graft in midfield, Cunningham formed an excellent attack with Juanito and Santillana, which gave Real Madrid the league title.

He played in 29 of 34 league matches and scored one of the goals that gave Real a memorable Clásico victory in February 1980.

Legend has it he walked off the Nou Camp pitch to the applause of Barcelona fans.

To mark the 25th anniversary of the game, Madrid newspaper AS ran a feature with the headline “The man who ran riot in the Nou Camp”.

“He drove us crazy with his dribbling, his bursts, his speed. He was electric, impressive,” recalled Migueli (Miguel Bernardo Bianquetti) Barcelona’s tough tackling Spanish international centre-back.

Birmingham-born entrepreneur Jim Cadman is the man behind tonight’s tribute with funds going towards the ‘Celebration Statue’ which will stand proudly in West Bromwich town centre.

There are still one or two hurdles to overcome but the raffle of a signed Gareth Bale shirt, a signed Bobby Charlton/Nobby Stiles Manchester United 1968 European Cup winning montage and a unique scouting report on Cunningham compiled by Don Revie’s England assistant Les Cocker should help push the fund over the magic line.

Cadman has had a role in the erection of several famous statues including one of Revie and sculptures of cricketer Fred Trueman and comedian Eric Morecambe.

“If like me you are a football lover from a bygone era, you’ll know how significant a place the ‘Three Degrees’ have within the history of the English game,” Cadman says.

“They played with such heart and courage at a time when hate spilled out from the terraces onto the pitch. The three defined an era that saw black footballers start to become known names in society as well as across football.”

Cunningham’s final game at The Hawthorns came in March 1986. It was for Leicester City in front of a paltry 8,626 fans.

A 2-2 draw: Imre Varadi and Steve Mackenzie on target for Albion - a rare draw in a woeful season of defeats.

There was an irony that his final bow at his adopted ‘home’ should be against a team now managed by the grittiest, nastiest manager ever to grace The Hawthorns.

It was Ron Saunders’ first home match since replacing Johnny Giles, the man who was the manager to bring in Cunningham from Leyton Orient in March 1977.
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Post by: Damo70 on March 28, 2015, 12:53:24 AM
Johnny Giles. The manager Ron Saunders could have been. Ally Robertson - "We could have kept that team together and we would have won something". They replaced Cunningham with another England winger in Peter Barnes, kept the rest of the team together and still it was Villa who were champions of England and Europe.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on March 28, 2015, 12:59:44 AM
Johnny Giles. The manager Ron Saunders could have been. Ally Robertson - "We could have kept that team together and we would have won something". They replaced Cunningham with another England winger in Peter Barnes, kept the rest of the team together and still it was Villa who were champions of England and Europe.

Real Madrid v Eintracht Frankfurt, Brazil v Italy 1970, That Night in Istanbul, Brazil v Italy 1982, the Matthews Final. None can compare.
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Post by: Damo70 on March 28, 2015, 01:03:23 AM
Also, the most memorable moment of that game they bang on about against a United side that had won one trophy in the previous ten years and wouldn't win another for another four was the bit they show at the start of The Big Match Revisited. Gary Bailey making a save.

He isn't even wearing gloves. Obviously only Albion felt the cold that winter.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 28, 2015, 01:22:03 AM
Johnny Giles. The manager Ron Saunders could have been. Ally Robertson - "We could have kept that team together and we would have won something". They replaced Cunningham with another England winger in Peter Barnes, kept the rest of the team together and still it was Villa who were champions of England and Europe.

Real Madrid v Eintracht Frankfurt, Brazil v Italy 1970, That Night in Istanbul, Brazil v Italy 1982, the Matthews Final. None can compare.

Even Wolves eclipsed them by winning the League Cup a couple of times in the 70s. Poor Albion, always on the outside looking in. Still, they have the Argus from a 5-3 win away at a side that finished 9th in their trophy cabinet so it's not all bad news for them.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 28, 2015, 01:27:05 AM
Well my quote looks daft now that Dave edited his post to something completely different.
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Post by: peter w on March 28, 2015, 09:44:26 AM
CThe 5-3 was a great game, but to be fair it was two mid-table looking upwards teams. No better than QPR - Newcastle 5-5. Its just that its one of their best games, not in the history of football.
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Post by: aj2k77 on March 28, 2015, 01:22:28 PM
Reading an article by Bill Howell on West Brom is how I imagine a piss take article on those clowns written by a Villa fan would read. It does make me chuckle.

And surely the nastiest, grittiest manager to ever grace the Nou-thorns is the negative bastard they've got long balling it in charge right now?
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Post by: Damo70 on March 28, 2015, 02:28:33 PM
And also this from that twat Howell from a couple of days ago. I'm pretty sure there have been better games before and since then Bill. and i'm saying nowt about that last bit.

Quote
“Letting the ball beat Houston and he’s away again to show that pace and grace and control. It’s a nicely weighted little pass for Ally Brown who turns inside Brian Greenhoff... on for Regis... Oh What a Goal!”

The words of commentator Gerald Sinstadt at Old Trafford on 30 December 1978 will long live on.

Has there even been a better game of football?

Laurie Cunningham led Manchester United a merry dance in THAT 5-3 victory.


From Brisbane Road to the Bernabeu via The Hawthorns, only now are folk beginning to wake up to his incredible story of that of the other two degrees.

Cunningham was the first black player capped by England at Under-21 level.

He should have beaten Viv Anderson to the big one. Only Ron Greenwood can explain why he preferred Peter Barnes and why he waited so long to hand Cunningham a first cap against Wales in 1979.

Cunningham should be 59 and earning a living reminiscing about the good old days.

But he was killed in a car crash in Madrid at the age of 33, shortly after meeting the incoming president of Rayo Vallecano, Pedro Garcia Jiminez, over a new contract.

How Albion fell off a cliff without him.

“The saddest thing,” said Cyrille Regis speaking from Spain yesterday before flying back for a tribute dinner at The Hawthorns tonight, “is that we never got to see the best of him.

“He was 23 when he was signed by Real Madrid and should have been looking forward to enjoying his peak years around 28 or 29.

“The trajectory that he was on meant that he would have been a world beater, a superstar.

“He was joining a great side but injuries cut him off in his prime.”

Regis’ life changed the day his best friend was killed on the A6 near to the city of Pozuelo de Alarcon.

“The great thing about Laurie,” he says, ”is that he was a pioneer.

"To second and third generations of footballers it is Laurie they remember. I was big and powerful, Laurie was balletic, classy, he played on his toes.

"Ron Atkinson used to say that when it snowed he wouldn’t leave any footprints in the snow. He inspired folk with that first Under-21 call-up. That is his legacy.”

The sold-out Cunningham Tribute Dinner tonight will see ten members of Cunningham’s family take centre stage, including his brother Keith and his son Sergio.

Five members of the swashbuckling 1978/79 side will be there: Regis and Brendon Batson, of course, and also Ally Robertson, Tony Brown and Ally Brown.

Centre-back Robertson says Cunningham was as good as they come: “For those two seasons at Albion he was the best player in England,” he said.

“He was out of this world. He was as good as George Best. But whereas George turned it on for how many years, Laurie picked up injuries. He would have been an unbelievable player in Spain.

“The hope was always that we could have kept that team together and then we would have won something. We were just lucky to be a part of something special. Against Valencia that one night in December 1978 he opened everyone’s eyes.”

A Uefa Cup tie in Valencia on 6 December 1978 changed Cunningham’s life.

Real Madrid came in with the best part of a million pounds and although he was only at the club for two and a half years and only played 58 official matches he left his mark.

Supported by Vicente Del Bosque’s skill and Uli Stielke’s graft in midfield, Cunningham formed an excellent attack with Juanito and Santillana, which gave Real Madrid the league title.

He played in 29 of 34 league matches and scored one of the goals that gave Real a memorable Clásico victory in February 1980.

Legend has it he walked off the Nou Camp pitch to the applause of Barcelona fans.

To mark the 25th anniversary of the game, Madrid newspaper AS ran a feature with the headline “The man who ran riot in the Nou Camp”.

“He drove us crazy with his dribbling, his bursts, his speed. He was electric, impressive,” recalled Migueli (Miguel Bernardo Bianquetti) Barcelona’s tough tackling Spanish international centre-back.

Birmingham-born entrepreneur Jim Cadman is the man behind tonight’s tribute with funds going towards the ‘Celebration Statue’ which will stand proudly in West Bromwich town centre.

There are still one or two hurdles to overcome but the raffle of a signed Gareth Bale shirt, a signed Bobby Charlton/Nobby Stiles Manchester United 1968 European Cup winning montage and a unique scouting report on Cunningham compiled by Don Revie’s England assistant Les Cocker should help push the fund over the magic line.

Cadman has had a role in the erection of several famous statues including one of Revie and sculptures of cricketer Fred Trueman and comedian Eric Morecambe.

“If like me you are a football lover from a bygone era, you’ll know how significant a place the ‘Three Degrees’ have within the history of the English game,” Cadman says.

“They played with such heart and courage at a time when hate spilled out from the terraces onto the pitch. The three defined an era that saw black footballers start to become known names in society as well as across football.”

Cunningham’s final game at The Hawthorns came in March 1986. It was for Leicester City in front of a paltry 8,626 fans.

A 2-2 draw: Imre Varadi and Steve Mackenzie on target for Albion - a rare draw in a woeful season of defeats.

There was an irony that his final bow at his adopted ‘home’ should be against a team now managed by the grittiest, nastiest manager ever to grace The Hawthorns.

It was Ron Saunders’ first home match since replacing Johnny Giles, the man who was the manager to bring in Cunningham from Leyton Orient in March 1977.



Firstly I would question the bit about Saunders replacing Giles. Hadn't Nobby Stiles been in charge for about four months? Secondly, that Albion side who were practically relegated by Christmas actually had a half decent squad on paper as I recall. A bit like us the following year.
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Post by: Clampy on March 29, 2015, 10:06:27 AM
Bill Howell lost any credibility he had left with that 'send us the bill' article.
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on March 29, 2015, 04:49:05 PM
The statue mentioned is nothing to do with the football club.

I'm pretty sure its a Sandwell Council (Darren Cooper) vanity project. The statue from the photo I've seen is awful.
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Post by: saunders_heroes on March 29, 2015, 07:49:51 PM
Bill Howell lost any credibility he had left with that 'send us the bill' article.

It's a wonder how he's still in a job.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on March 30, 2015, 03:55:30 PM
Bill Howell lost any credibility he had left with that 'send us the bill' article.

It's a wonder how he's still in a job.

He gets page views. That's all the papers want now.
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Post by: tomd2103 on March 31, 2015, 12:42:15 AM
Bill Howell lost any credibility he had left with that 'send us the bill' article.

It's a wonder how he's still in a job.

He gets page views. That's all the papers want now.

There was a beauty in the Evening Mail today:

http://www.waste of paper.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/james-morrison-west-brom-aiming-8934371

Since when has there been such a thing as a 'top 12 finish'? 
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Post by: peter w on March 31, 2015, 11:00:22 AM
To be fair we're aiming for a top 17 finish.
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Post by: tomd2103 on March 31, 2015, 11:51:06 AM
To be fair we're aiming for a top 17 finish.

Yes, but we won't be passing that off as some kind of achievement.  They have now resorted to making things up (ie. 'top 12 finish') to try and do so. 
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Post by: Damo70 on April 01, 2015, 11:02:32 AM
Bill Howell lost any credibility he had left with that 'send us the bill' article.

It's a wonder how he's still in a job.

He gets page views. That's all the papers want now.

There was a beauty in the Evening Mail today:

http://www.waste of paper.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/james-morrison-west-brom-aiming-8934371

Since when has there been such a thing as a 'top 12 finish'?

I think that was good enough to keep you up in the old Kevin Toms Football Manager game for the Spectrum.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 07, 2015, 12:27:32 PM
Beeb

Even potential new owners know what they are.

Quote
West Brom chairman Jeremy Peace will only sell the club if a deal can be done early in the summer - otherwise any talks will be put on hold for at least another year.

Groups from China and the USA are believed to be interested in buying the club, with Peace asking for £150m.

Peace is keen that the process does not drag on, so that the club can plan properly in the summer transfer window.

Manager Tony Pulis is expected to be part of any new structure.

With another year to go before Premier League clubs get their hands on a massive TV rights windfall, it is essential that West Brom stay in the top flight and Pulis's experience in that direction is deemed essential.

Pulis has helped steer West Brom away from the relegation zone since taking over on 1 January.

The interested parties are both believed to be actively involved in a bid and it is understood their representatives have already been shown around the club and training ground. But the sticking point will probably be the asking price.

Peace, 58, is looking for £150m-plus but potential buyers - aware that West Brom are a middle-range Premier League club with no serious expectation of winning trophies - are likely to pitch the bid at about £110m. The attraction for them is simply to be in the Premier League, with the accompanying TV riches.

With Peace owning almost 90% of the company that owns West Brom, negotiations would be comparatively straightforward, as only one person would act for the sellers.

West Brom are a well-run, prudent club and Peace's experience with public companies means the books will be easy to comprehend and reliable. The deal could easily be done within 10 weeks.

So the only complicating factor remains the price - provided Peace is assured the prospective owners have the club's interests at heart.

He will not go for a protracted selling process along the lines of Aston Villa in this past year. It will be a clean, swift deal, or not at all.

Peace wants Pulis to have a clear run this summer at sorting out player recruitment to prepare for a season where survival's imperative in the Premier League.

So, 13 years after Peace became chairman of West Brom, he remains the key to the club's future. He will not just go for a quick sale. Everything has to be right for him - or there's no deal.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on April 07, 2015, 01:31:42 PM
A few us-related things touched on.

http://thebirminghampress.com/2015/04/54925/
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Post by: Villa in Denmark on April 07, 2015, 02:09:59 PM
A few us-related things touched on.

http://thebirminghampress.com/2015/04/54925/
I think that Leicester game  is their get of jail card because the rest of their run-in is horrendous.

Away to Palace
Home to Liverpool
Away to Man Utd
Home to Newcastle (by which point they could be looking at a run of 1 win in their last 8 plus sliding down the table)
Home to Chelsea
Away to Arsenal.

If everything goes for them they'll finish on 39 or 40 points.  Lose to Leicester and who knows?

By the way did they cheer the QPR goals at the weekend like they did when they have done in the past when them losing is disadvantageous to us?
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Post by: Mister E on April 07, 2015, 02:53:51 PM
Beeb

Even potential new owners know what they are.

Quote
West Brom chairman Jeremy Peace will only sell the club if a deal can be done early in the summer - otherwise any talks will be put on hold for at least another year.

Groups from China and the USA are believed to be interested in buying the club, with Peace asking for £150m.

Peace is keen that the process does not drag on, so that the club can plan properly in the summer transfer window.

Manager Tony Pulis is expected to be part of any new structure.

With another year to go before Premier League clubs get their hands on a massive TV rights windfall, it is essential that West Brom stay in the top flight and Pulis's experience in that direction is deemed essential.

Pulis has helped steer West Brom away from the relegation zone since taking over on 1 January.

The interested parties are both believed to be actively involved in a bid and it is understood their representatives have already been shown around the club and training ground. But the sticking point will probably be the asking price.

Peace, 58, is looking for £150m-plus but potential buyers - aware that West Brom are a middle-range Premier League club with no serious expectation of winning trophies - are likely to pitch the bid at about £110m. The attraction for them is simply to be in the Premier League, with the accompanying TV riches.

With Peace owning almost 90% of the company that owns West Brom, negotiations would be comparatively straightforward, as only one person would act for the sellers.

West Brom are a well-run, prudent club and Peace's experience with public companies means the books will be easy to comprehend and reliable. The deal could easily be done within 10 weeks.

So the only complicating factor remains the price - provided Peace is assured the prospective owners have the club's interests at heart.

He will not go for a protracted selling process along the lines of Aston Villa in this past year. It will be a clean, swift deal, or not at all.

Peace wants Pulis to have a clear run this summer at sorting out player recruitment to prepare for a season where survival's imperative in the Premier League.

So, 13 years after Peace became chairman of West Brom, he remains the key to the club's future. He will not just go for a quick sale. Everything has to be right for him - or there's no deal.
How can they be worth roughly what Lerner is expecting to get for our sale? - I've seen reports that Lerner would accept £150m ...
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Post by: Damo70 on April 07, 2015, 02:59:01 PM
So basically, as opposed to a long protracted period of not being sold like ourselves and the noses they are going to have a clean and swift period of not being sold.
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Post by: Richard E on April 08, 2015, 06:39:47 PM
Does the Meaning Evil still think Brown Ideye is better than Christian Benteke?
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Post by: Villa in Denmark on April 08, 2015, 10:09:10 PM
Does the Meaning Evil still think Brown Ideye is better than Christian Benteke?
Probably not. Although they do think Olsson is better than Vlaar.
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Post by: Exeter 77 on April 11, 2015, 05:34:26 PM
Everyone's favourite baseball cap wearer is not very popular in Smethwick at moment from what I'm listening to.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 11, 2015, 06:28:20 PM
Liam, in all seriousness, how worried are you with your run in?
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Post by: Villa in Denmark on April 11, 2015, 07:18:11 PM
Everyone's favourite baseball cap wearer is not very popular in Smethwick at moment from what I'm listening to.

Them breaking Pulis' record of never being relegated wouldn't make up for all of Lambert's broken records, but it would be a salve on some open wounds.
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Post by: Villa in Denmark on April 11, 2015, 07:19:44 PM
Liam, in all seriousness, how worried are you with your run in?

He'll answer when he's changed his underwear. ;)
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Post by: saunders_heroes on April 11, 2015, 08:26:38 PM
"You're going down with the Villa" sang the bitter Baggies when 1-0 up against Leicester.
Gone quiet now though.
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Post by: cheltenhamlion on April 11, 2015, 10:26:39 PM
You're going down with a whimper
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 11, 2015, 10:42:03 PM
I wonder if anyone gave Berahino a slap after this game?
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Post by: Mister E on April 12, 2015, 07:42:38 AM
You know, the big problem for them is Myhill: his keeping has been poor and with a mediocre defence in front of him, the Bitters look very vulnerable.
Burnley and Leicester have both got the resilience to make the relegation battle very tough.
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Post by: peter w on April 12, 2015, 09:39:05 AM
He's a Villa fan though so leave Myhill alone.
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Post by: Clampy on April 12, 2015, 10:30:50 AM
One Stripey walked back into the pub after their game yesterday wearing his 'Jeff Astle Day' t.shirt, looking very grumpy. It was highly amusing.
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Post by: Damo70 on April 12, 2015, 11:53:27 AM
I wonder if anyone gave Berahino a slap after this game?

The queue to slap him is longer than the queue for away tickets.
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Post by: Damo70 on April 12, 2015, 11:56:10 AM
Everyone's favourite baseball cap wearer is not very popular in Smethwick at moment from what I'm listening to.

Them breaking Pulis' record of never being relegated wouldn't make up for all of Lambert's broken records, but it would be a salve on some open wounds.



To paraphrase Michael Douglas in Falling Down "Your going to get relegated wearing that stupid little cap".
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Post by: richard moore on April 12, 2015, 12:03:43 PM
You know, the big problem for them is Myhill: his keeping has been poor and with a mediocre defence in front of him, the Bitters look very vulnerable.
Burnley and Leicester have both got the resilience to make the relegation battle very tough.

We certainly dodged a bullet with Lescott who looks truly awful
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Post by: Ad@m on April 12, 2015, 12:08:08 PM
He's a Villa fan though so leave Myhill alone.

Yep, Agent Myhill is alright by me too.
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Post by: Clampy on April 12, 2015, 12:09:27 PM
You know, the big problem for them is Myhill: his keeping has been poor and with a mediocre defence in front of him, the Bitters look very vulnerable.
Burnley and Leicester have both got the resilience to make the relegation battle very tough.

We certainly dodged a bullet with Lescott who looks truly awful

I was one of the many of us who thought he would have been a good free transfer and maybe with a better defence around him, he might have done better for us than he has for them.
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Post by: Damo70 on April 12, 2015, 12:14:13 PM
Lescott has gone from looking like a man thinking 'Why am I here?' to a man thinking 'Where am I?'
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Post by: Richard E on April 12, 2015, 01:08:36 PM
I wonder if anyone gave Berahino a slap after this game?

The queue to slap him is longer than the queue for away tickets.

This is Albion we are talking about, so it would only need about 3 people to be in the queue for that to be true.
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Post by: Ger Regan on April 12, 2015, 01:08:53 PM
Partridge made real (https://vine.co/v/eu75rmBMOiJ)
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Post by: saunders_heroes on April 12, 2015, 02:10:10 PM
"His current situation"
Ha!
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on April 12, 2015, 02:57:31 PM
Liam, in all seriousness, how worried are you with your run in?

Not overly worried. I don't envisage us losing all of those games and I doubt the sides beneath us have enough to over-turn the points deficit.

I am though incredibly pissed off with the spineless bunch of wankers that wear the shirt. Having those swines is bad enough but my misery is further compounded when I see the tit on the touchline.

I really don't like Pulis and this is making it much harder to bare.

If Pulis went in the summer then I wouldn't shed a tear.

Yesterday was a great occasion with the unveiling of the Astle foundation and it was ruined by these spineless bunch of arseholes.

Good win for you yesterday PWS. Think you'll stay up.
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Post by: Damo70 on April 12, 2015, 03:32:43 PM
Liam, in all seriousness, how worried are you with your run in?

Not overly worried. I don't envisage us losing all of those games and I doubt the sides beneath us have enough to over-turn the points deficit.

I am though incredibly pissed off with the spineless bunch of wankers that wear the shirt. Having those swines is bad enough but my misery is further compounded when I see the tit on the touchline.

I really don't like Pulis and this is making it much harder to bare.

If Pulis went in the summer then I wouldn't shed a tear.

Yesterday was a great occasion with the unveiling of the Astle foundation and it was ruined by these spineless bunch of arseholes.

Good win for you yesterday PWS. Think you'll stay up.



I think you might get something at Palace and Newcastle. Chelsea will have the title wrapped up by the time they meet you which may help you get something from that game. The way things are going one win may be enough for you, although I always fear for the team that gets sucked in towards the end when they appeared safe.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 12, 2015, 03:39:42 PM
Thing is Liam I bet you didn't envisage losing both home games to QPR and Leicester, conceding 7 along the way. Palace is a massive game for you imo. You have the advantage though of one win will probably be enough though.
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on April 12, 2015, 04:18:35 PM
Thing is Liam I bet you didn't envisage losing both home games to QPR and Leicester, conceding 7 along the way. Palace is a massive game for you imo. You have the advantage though of one win will probably be enough though.

No, I didn't. You're quite right. We only have ourselves to blame.

In response to Damo70 - you're slightly more confident than me. The whole Pulis approach away from home is mind-numbingly boring. We play for 0-0s, we time waste, we try to kill the game as much as possible. Everything I despise. Crystal Palace will probably beat us purely because they have in abundance everything our side fears - Zaha and Bolasie running at our back four isn't worth thinking about.

Oh how I wish we still had Pepe Mel and given him the resources to do the job his way. It would be a damn sight more entertaining than watching 11 men camp in your penalty area for 90 minutes. You went to Sunderland, played a fast, progressive style of football and hammered them 4-0. We didn't even cross the half way line ffs.
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Post by: pauliewalnuts on April 12, 2015, 05:25:00 PM
In response to Damo70 - you're slightly more confident than me. The whole Pulis approach away from home is mind-numbingly boring. We play for 0-0s, we time waste, we try to kill the game as much as possible. Everything I despise. Crystal Palace will probably beat us purely because they have in abundance everything our side fears - Zaha and Bolasie running at our back four isn't worth thinking about.

Oh how I wish we still had Pepe Mel and given him the resources to do the job his way. It would be a damn sight more entertaining than watching 11 men camp in your penalty area for 90 minutes. You went to Sunderland, played a fast, progressive style of football and hammered them 4-0. We didn't even cross the half way line ffs.

That's why i found the Pulis love on here to be absolutely bewildering.

He's never really going to change his approach. He will keep you up (you are clearly not going down, despite your run-in), but what happens then? You're stuck with a dinosaur who produced one of the most anti-football sides this country has seen in ages.

A horrible appointment, and not being particularly anti-Albion, I actually feel sorry for you. The fact that so many people on here wanted him to get our job is just nuts.
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Post by: Dave P on April 12, 2015, 07:58:07 PM
Getting Pulis in the bleak mid winter when you are at the foot of the table is all fun and games but then the realisation will kick in when the summer comes and you realise Tony Pulis is your manager.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 12, 2015, 07:59:08 PM
And Peter Crouch is your new star striker.
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Post by: TheTimVilla on April 12, 2015, 08:04:56 PM
You can get 12s about them going down. Got to be worth a tickle.
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Post by: Clampy on April 12, 2015, 08:49:41 PM
You can get 12s about them going down. Got to be worth a tickle.

How much is a tickle?
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 12, 2015, 09:27:38 PM
You can get 12s about them going down. Got to be worth a tickle.

How much is a tickle?

It's half a grapple innit.
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Post by: Villa in Denmark on April 12, 2015, 09:33:54 PM
You can get 12s about them going down. Got to be worth a tickle.

How much is a tickle?

It's half a grapple innit.

Which in turn are worth a slap on the wrist and a slap in the face.
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Post by: LeeB on April 12, 2015, 09:52:54 PM
In response to Damo70 - you're slightly more confident than me. The whole Pulis approach away from home is mind-numbingly boring. We play for 0-0s, we time waste, we try to kill the game as much as possible. Everything I despise. Crystal Palace will probably beat us purely because they have in abundance everything our side fears - Zaha and Bolasie running at our back four isn't worth thinking about.

Oh how I wish we still had Pepe Mel and given him the resources to do the job his way. It would be a damn sight more entertaining than watching 11 men camp in your penalty area for 90 minutes. You went to Sunderland, played a fast, progressive style of football and hammered them 4-0. We didn't even cross the half way line ffs.

That's why i found the Pulis love on here to be absolutely bewildering.

He's never really going to change his approach. He will keep you up (you are clearly not going down, despite your run-in), but what happens then? You're stuck with a dinosaur who produced one of the most anti-football sides this country has seen in ages.

A horrible appointment, and not being particularly anti-Albion, I actually feel sorry for you. The fact that so many people on here wanted him to get our job is just nuts.

Guilty as charged, although my mindset of the time would have closely matched that of an isolated wildebeast fleeing a large cat, and anything that promised salvation would be taken.
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Post by: Damo70 on April 13, 2015, 01:12:32 PM
Getting Pulis in the bleak mid winter when you are at the foot of the table is all fun and games but then the realisation will kick in when the summer comes and you realise Tony Pulis is your manager.

Sort of a reverse of a holiday romance and asking her to come and live with you at the end of the summer then realising she's a nightmare to live with.

Trust me, I know.
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Post by: Damo70 on April 13, 2015, 01:15:21 PM
In response to Damo70 - you're slightly more confident than me. The whole Pulis approach away from home is mind-numbingly boring. We play for 0-0s, we time waste, we try to kill the game as much as possible. Everything I despise. Crystal Palace will probably beat us purely because they have in abundance everything our side fears - Zaha and Bolasie running at our back four isn't worth thinking about.

Oh how I wish we still had Pepe Mel and given him the resources to do the job his way. It would be a damn sight more entertaining than watching 11 men camp in your penalty area for 90 minutes. You went to Sunderland, played a fast, progressive style of football and hammered them 4-0. We didn't even cross the half way line ffs.

That's why i found the Pulis love on here to be absolutely bewildering.

He's never really going to change his approach. He will keep you up (you are clearly not going down, despite your run-in), but what happens then? You're stuck with a dinosaur who produced one of the most anti-football sides this country has seen in ages.

A horrible appointment, and not being particularly anti-Albion, I actually feel sorry for you. The fact that so many people on here wanted him to get our job is just nuts.

Guilty as charged, although my mindset of the time would have closely matched that of an isolated wildebeast fleeing a large cat, and anything that promised salvation would be taken.


I'm guilty too.

But I still like him because he lost to us.

Twice.
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Post by: AVH87 on April 14, 2015, 12:20:24 PM
We really should be looking at finishing above the Albion with the run-in they have compared to ours. I didn't realise until earlier when reading a BBC Sport article that last season is their only real relegation battle since being promoted 5 years ago. Before that they'd finished 11th, 10th and 8th.
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Post by: Damo70 on April 14, 2015, 12:29:23 PM
You can get 12s about them going down. Got to be worth a tickle.

How much is a tickle?

There are five tickles in a pinch and ten pinches in a punch. Ten punches are a punt. As in "worth a punt".
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Post by: dave.woodhall on April 14, 2015, 04:15:23 PM
No, they're not happy. http://thebirminghampress.com/2015/04/albion-ruin-special-day/
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Post by: cheltenhamlion on April 14, 2015, 05:21:56 PM
They rarely are. They will be demanding Tiny Penis' head on a stick before Christmas.
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Post by: peter w on April 14, 2015, 05:31:10 PM
I think many people on here wanting Pulis was more an "anyone but Lambert" and clutching at straws around the banks of the inevitability of relegation under Lambert. Extolling his virtues were never more than he'd keep us up. I wasn't in the Pulis love-in this season but more to do with his weasly Ferguson thing rather than his style of management.
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Post by: Witton Warrior on April 14, 2015, 06:21:39 PM
They rarely are. They will be demanding Tiny Penis' head on a stick before Christmas.

Some of them only wanted him as long as he kept them up this season - then have him sacked - and we're deluded!
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Post by: Clampy on April 14, 2015, 07:01:14 PM
No, they're not happy. http://thebirminghampress.com/2015/04/albion-ruin-special-day/

He wasn't happy on WM last night either. He mentioned us before he got to the Albion.
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Post by: pauliewalnuts on April 14, 2015, 11:54:32 PM
They rarely are. They will be demanding Tiny Penis' head on a stick before Christmas.

Some of them only wanted him as long as he kept them up this season - then have him sacked - and we're deluded!

That's exactly the reason I found the Pulis supporters here a couple of months ago to be, well, nuts.

Pulis will keep them up, yes, but then what? Two years of his mind numbing shit or three?
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Post by: Damo70 on April 18, 2015, 02:14:24 PM
It must be embarrassing travelling to Crystal Palace knowing your manager probably wished he had stayed there.
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Post by: walsall villain on April 18, 2015, 02:26:55 PM
They rarely are. They will be demanding Tiny Penis' head on a stick before Christmas.

Some of them only wanted him as long as he kept them up this season - then have him sacked - and we're deluded!

That's exactly the reason I found the Pulis supporters here a couple of months ago to be, well, nuts.

Pulis will keep them up, yes, but then what? Two years of his mind numbing shit or three?
In a dark moment I was all for it. My thinking was that he would keep us up, we would then be taken over this summer, then he would be dumped. It seemed like a cunning plan at the time!
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Post by: dave.woodhall on April 29, 2015, 12:53:25 PM
Imagine if we did this? http://www.waste of paper.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/west-brom-fans-chief-season-9141011
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Post by: LeeB on April 29, 2015, 12:55:12 PM
Imagine if we did this? http://www.waste of paper.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/west-brom-fans-chief-season-9141011

That'll probably generate as much as the rags did to buy that left-back from Coventry.
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on April 29, 2015, 06:39:50 PM
Imagine if we did this? http://www.waste of paper.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/west-brom-fans-chief-season-9141011

Not happy that they have decided to up the prices although I bet the Sportsman and The Vine will be delighted with the news.

We seem to have a good number of supporters on match-days that fill out both pubs and instead of increasing the likelihood of them returning we're pushing them further away in my view.

I don't like the clubs justification for the price rise and furthermore the excuse that it is a £1 a week quite simply doesn't wash with me.

The club refer to it as £1 a week but but we don't get a game a week do we? It's actually a rise of £2.63 per game, taking us to £21.00 a game from £18.37. And even more if you pay by direct debit. It also represents a rise of approximately 15%, at a time when inflation is below 1%.

It could have been worse but with the money that is floating around in this division, and the fact that we have announced profits of £14million, I would have thought freezing prices again would have been both sensible and fair.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 29, 2015, 06:45:03 PM
Even with the TV deal, here is the gulf between clubs. Ain't mod£rn football grand.

"Following their 17th Premier League home game against Leicester they finally made more revenue than Arsenal make every home game."
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Liam_Baggies on April 29, 2015, 07:25:29 PM
Modern football is pretty shite.

We're being charged over £50 to watch Man United tear us a new one on Saturday.

I think I'll stick to watching it in the pub with a few pints of Banks.
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Post by: Damo70 on April 30, 2015, 08:16:38 AM
Modern football is pretty shite.

We're being charged over £50 to watch Man United tear us a new one on Saturday.

I think I'll stick to watching it in the pub with a few pints of Banks.


You would think for fifty quid they would throw in a DVD of the game at Old Trafford in the late seventies your lot are so fond of recalling. ;)
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: dave.woodhall on May 03, 2015, 12:06:04 PM
Looks like a fanzine writer's hacked into the Mail website again.

http://www.waste of paper.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/west-brom-comment-baggies-safe-9172394
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 03, 2015, 12:58:54 PM
What the smeg is a beatie? And he seems proud they only had 20%.

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You don’t necessarily need the football. Here’s a stat for you...20% - West Brom posted the lowest possession percentage of any winning team in the last 10 years of the Premier League. Apparently.

Take a bow my pinstriped beaties... all 14 of you.
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Post by: thick_mike on May 03, 2015, 01:07:21 PM
What the smeg is a beatie? And he seems proud they only had 20%.

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You don’t necessarily need the football. Here’s a stat for you...20% - West Brom posted the lowest possession percentage of any winning team in the last 10 years of the Premier League. Apparently.

Take a bow my pinstriped beaties... all 14 of you.


A beatie is an illiterate beauty I guess
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Post by: Godfrey Brian on May 03, 2015, 10:07:12 PM
What the smeg is a beatie? And he seems proud they only had 20%.

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You don’t necessarily need the football. Here’s a stat for you...20% - West Brom posted the lowest possession percentage of any winning team in the last 10 years of the Premier League. Apparently.

Take a bow my pinstriped beaties... all 14 of you.

I think he used to play for Ipswich in the 70s.Fourteen of him would fit right into any Pulis side.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: dave shelley on May 04, 2015, 12:45:17 AM
Kevin Beattie was a great player, plagued by injuries.  I would have loved to see him at the Villa, injury free of course.
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Post by: Godfrey Brian on May 04, 2015, 10:19:30 AM
Kevin Beattie was a great player, plagued by injuries.  I would have loved to see him at the Villa, injury free of course.
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He was. Hard and uncompromising  and loads of energy.He was one of those players who drive a team on . ]
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: cheltenhamlion on May 06, 2015, 03:18:15 PM
I am starting to worry for Howell's sanity.
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Post by: Clampy on May 06, 2015, 07:04:04 PM
How Bill Howell is still getting paid to write that juvenile tripe is anyone's guess.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: dave.woodhall on May 13, 2015, 11:53:47 AM
This is what you get with Pulis.

http://thebirminghampress.com/2015/05/job-done/
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Villa in Denmark on May 13, 2015, 10:34:07 PM
I think he's missed the point a bit.

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No club wants to see a losing run extended to nine successive games

Surely no club wants to see a losing run extended to two successive games.

And we've got the message that he resents everything about the money floating around the Premier League, but give it a rest. It actually detracts from any salient points as the minute I read "greed league" or similar I automatically switch to skim reading to get past the bile.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: cheltenhamlion on May 14, 2015, 07:10:59 PM
You wouldn't do well with my H+V articles then!
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Villa in Denmark on May 15, 2015, 12:04:55 AM
That's different. I've paid good money for that bile, and you can't beat a well executed rant.

Anyway, after a bit more consideration, it's more the "this competing against richer clubs is so demeaning" attitude that rattles my chains.

The whole thing is dripping with that whole "holier than thou" bollocks that permeates everything that comes out of six toe county.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on May 15, 2015, 02:53:31 PM
Anybody who drives between Lichfield and Sutton just past Shenstone as you head south will know about that flag that has been outside a house on the left hand side for too many years than I care to remember. Dirty filthy sorry looking stripy bit of rag it is, but there you go an Englishmans home is his castle and all that.
Noticed yesterday when I did the journey that one of his near neighbours has put up a flag now for a proper team. You can see it on the other side of the road, about twice the size, a lot cleaner, and on a much higher flagpole.   ;D



Oh yes, and it's a bigger nicer house, with nicer cars in the drive, and the garden looks better kept.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: LeeB on May 15, 2015, 09:06:56 PM
That's different. I've paid good money for that bile, and you can't beat a well executed rant.

Anyway, after a bit more consideration, it's more the "this competing against richer clubs is so demeaning" attitude that rattles my chains.

The whole thing is dripping with that whole "holier than thou" bollocks that permeates everything that comes out of six toe county.

I had thought it was just me that was irked by this, probably because Dave said what a nice bloke he is.

But you've hit the nail on the head with that 'holier-than-thou' shit, it's the cloak they attempt to wear to shield them from what they and everyone else knows, that they're insignificant.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: KRS on May 18, 2015, 06:41:47 PM
SSN reporting that Peace has announced that due diligence is being conducted on a potential takeover. It will be interested to see who's being linked with the Stripy Filth.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Villa in Denmark on May 18, 2015, 08:33:40 PM
SSN reporting that Peace has announced that due diligence is being conducted on a potential takeover. It will be interested to see who's being linked with the Stripy Filth.
Fred Moffatt driving his Rover P6 complete with the original mobile office filing system*

*This reference will be completely baffling to anyone under the age of about 45.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Chinchilla Bathhouse on May 18, 2015, 10:19:18 PM
In a scandalous move, 5Live has just shelved their planned "Great Escape" programme* to talk about the breaking news that Raheem Sterling is a spoilt git.

*They'd done a documentary to commemorate ten years (?) since those magnificent Baggies finished fourth bottom of the league.  No really.  They've got an interview with Bryan Robson and everything.  Not to worry, Chappers has just reassured us that the programme is available online, so we can all tune in at a time convenient to us and relive that glorious day when thingy scored a goal against, er, someone and those stripy heroes hauled themselves into the pantheon of sporting greats.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Dave on May 18, 2015, 11:37:12 PM
In a scandalous move, 5Live has just shelved their planned "Great Escape" programme* to talk about the breaking news that Raheem Sterling is a spoilt git.

*They'd done a documentary to commemorate ten years (?) since those magnificent Baggies finished fourth bottom of the league.  No really.  They've got an interview with Bryan Robson and everything.  Not to worry, Chappers has just reassured us that the programme is available online, so we can all tune in at a time convenient to us and relive that glorious day when thingy scored a goal against, er, someone and those stripy heroes hauled themselves into the pantheon of sporting greats.
Wasn't it Villa superstar Kieron Richardson who scored the goal to keep them up?
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 18, 2015, 11:40:24 PM
I thought it was a goal late in another game that actually kept them up. Palace v Charlton?
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Chinchilla Bathhouse on May 19, 2015, 12:08:13 AM
I thought it was a goal late in another game that actually kept them up. Palace v Charlton?

No!  They did it themselves, heroically, with skill and grit and determination and actually you could be right, I really have no idea.  If only there was a radio documentary to remind me.  I think Dave may be right and that our own Kieron Richardson had a big hand in their survival;  I have this mental image of him on the shoulders of triumphant fans who'd poured onto the pitch to celebrate.  (Presumably they had a long hard look at their stewarding off the back of that disgraceful lapse of security). 
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 19, 2015, 12:33:58 AM
Being bored I looked it up.

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West Brom, who had been bottom of the table and eight points from safety at Christmas, did their part by defeating Portsmouth at home 2–0. Norwich, the only side to have their fate completely in their own hands, lost 6–0 at Fulham and went down. Southampton lost 2–1 at home to Manchester United. Palace, away to Charlton Athletic, were leading 2–1 after 71 minutes, but with eight minutes to go Jonathan Fortune equalised for the Addicks to relegate the Eagles. Thus, West Brom stayed up, and changed history, becoming the first club in Premiership history to avoid relegation after being bottom of the table at Christmas.

This "great escape" was done thanks to one win in the last 7, winning 5 of their last 30 games. Richardson scored the second in a 2-0 win over Portsmouth on the last day.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 19, 2015, 12:37:57 AM
Oh and does anyone remember what a certain Mr Howell said about our pitch invasion?

A few days ago he wrote this about the 'great escape', not much condemnation going on there eh Bill.

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Robson had asked the Albion fans not to come on to the pitch if they wanted their heroes to do a lap of honour. But the playing surface was quickly a sea of striped shirts as “The Lord’s My Shepherd’’ and the theme from The Great Escape echoed around the ground.

Robson emerged to be showered in champagne and admitted that “the gods were looking down on us”.

(http://i4.waste of paper.co.uk/incoming/article9259335.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/BP2115153.jpg)
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Post by: Damo70 on May 19, 2015, 06:56:21 AM
If I remember right they won 2-0 with goals from Richardson and Horsfield and the Portsmouth fans joined in with the celebrations as Southampton went down. Wasn't it a record low points tally for a team staying up? They are guaranteed at least 13th place this season now. Open top bus and civic reception job I reckon.
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Post by: Liam_Baggies on May 19, 2015, 06:46:00 PM
Richardson was a breath of fresh air that season - purely because the rest were a load of garbage.

We beat Portsmouth 2-0 who were chanting "let them score" because they wanted Saints to go down. Many of them had purchased Albion shirts in the club shop that were being sold at cheaper prices. We kept our part of the bargain but were heading down until Jonathan Fortune scored a late equaliser for Charlton against Palace which meant we stayed up whilst Palace went down.

I experienced every emotion that day - not something I would want to do again, but very enjoyable nonetheless.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Damo70 on May 20, 2015, 07:13:02 AM
Richardson was a breath of fresh air that season - purely because the rest were a load of garbage.

We beat Portsmouth 2-0 who were chanting "let them score" because they wanted Saints to go down. Many of them had purchased Albion shirts in the club shop that were being sold at cheaper prices. We kept our part of the bargain but were heading down until Jonathan Fortune scored a late equaliser for Charlton against Palace which meant we stayed up whilst Palace went down.

I experienced every emotion that day - not something I would want to do again, but very enjoyable nonetheless.



If I remember right it was between Albion, Palace, Norwich and Southampton with only one surviving. Southampton were at home to United who had nothing to play for and a cup final the following week. Because of that Southampton were favourites and United were a good price. I had fifty quid on them, which is a big bet for me. They went a goal down but won 2-1 in the end. I was watching it in the pub and didn't tell my wife about the bet until United had won.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Liam_Baggies on May 20, 2015, 08:49:27 PM
Richardson was a breath of fresh air that season - purely because the rest were a load of garbage.

We beat Portsmouth 2-0 who were chanting "let them score" because they wanted Saints to go down. Many of them had purchased Albion shirts in the club shop that were being sold at cheaper prices. We kept our part of the bargain but were heading down until Jonathan Fortune scored a late equaliser for Charlton against Palace which meant we stayed up whilst Palace went down.

I experienced every emotion that day - not something I would want to do again, but very enjoyable nonetheless.



If I remember right it was between Albion, Palace, Norwich and Southampton with only one surviving. Southampton were at home to United who had nothing to play for and a cup final the following week. Because of that Southampton were favourites and United were a good price. I had fifty quid on them, which is a big bet for me. They went a goal down but won 2-1 in the end. I was watching it in the pub and didn't tell my wife about the bet until United had won.

Correct.

And well done on the win!

Lucky you won cos no doubt the missus' would have had something to say if not!  ;D
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: dave.woodhall on May 27, 2015, 03:48:26 PM
Baggie Bill's 'awards' of the season.

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Friendliest Away Game
Blues away in the FA Cup
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: Dave Cooper please on May 27, 2015, 06:29:15 PM
Baggie Bill's 'awards' of the season.

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Friendliest Away Game
Blues away in the FA Cup

Ah yes, the "We Hate Villa More Than You" Derby.
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Post by: Legion on May 27, 2015, 06:30:33 PM
A few years ago I attended a Dingles v Covscum match. They took it in turns to sing about us for most of the first half.
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Post by: Damo70 on May 28, 2015, 11:31:08 AM
Coming from a nose family and a nose area I enjoy seeing Albion beat them. I went to three Small Heath v Albion games at the sty in the late eighties and early nineties with an Albion supporting mate. In the first one Hopkins got a late winner for Albion in a midweek game. In the second one Des Bremner put the noses ahead but Albion won 1-4 and my mate and I went on the kop after the game to join in the sack the manager/sack the board protests (nobody noticed we were the only ones smiling). In the third one Albion won 3-0. I'm pretty sure by the time of the third game my mate was paying for my ticket as he thought I was a lucky mascot.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: PeterWithe on May 28, 2015, 11:33:41 AM
A few years ago I attended a Dingles v Covscum match. They took it in turns to sing about us for most of the first half.

Yeah?

I've been to loads of Wolves matches and never heard them sing about us unless we are playing them.
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Post by: Legion on May 28, 2015, 11:34:20 AM
True.
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Post by: PeterWithe on May 28, 2015, 11:35:06 AM
But they did that time?
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Post by: Legion on May 28, 2015, 11:36:15 AM
Sorry. I meant my original statement was true.
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Post by: Damo70 on May 28, 2015, 11:41:24 AM
A few years ago I attended a Dingles v Covscum match. They took it in turns to sing about us for most of the first half.


On occasions I worked in Coventry I found they tend to have a lot of people who 'support Cov' and dislike Villa but never actually go to football matches or even have much interest in football in general.
Title: Re: The All-New Patronise The Plucky Little Neighbours Thread.
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on May 28, 2015, 12:10:18 PM
A few years ago I attended a Dingles v Covscum match. They took it in turns to sing about us for most of the first half.


On occasions I worked in Coventry I found they tend to have a lot of people who 'support Cov' and dislike Villa but never actually go to football matches or even have much interest in football in general.

Like Bluenoses then
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Post by: Damo70 on May 28, 2015, 12:28:59 PM
A few years ago I attended a Dingles v Covscum match. They took it in turns to sing about us for most of the first half.


On occasions I worked in Coventry I found they tend to have a lot of people who 'support Cov' and dislike Villa but never actually go to football matches or even have much interest in football in general.

Like Bluenoses then


The only thing I would say regarding noses not being interested in football in general is the exception in that they have an encyclopedic knowledge of the Villa. The only set of fans who's specialist subject on Mastermind would be the club they hate most.

Noses on Mastermind. I've just managed to crack myself up at the thought of that. I'm sat here pissing myself laughing.
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Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on May 28, 2015, 12:43:26 PM
A few years ago I attended a Dingles v Covscum match. They took it in turns to sing about us for most of the first half.


On occasions I worked in Coventry I found they tend to have a lot of people who 'support Cov' and dislike Villa but never actually go to football matches or even have much interest in football in general.
My lad works in Cov...because of my Villa love he often mentions us in conversations...the responses are varied in strength but always negative. He always follows up by asking if they go to games...none of them do.
IIRC they were pretty well supported on their way up in the 60s, through the 70s and a bit into the 80s...then the club seemed to go ti*s up big time!

Fu*k the fu*kers.
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Post by: Damo70 on May 28, 2015, 12:50:39 PM
A few years ago I attended a Dingles v Covscum match. They took it in turns to sing about us for most of the first half.


On occasions I worked in Coventry I found they tend to have a lot of people who 'support Cov' and dislike Villa but never actually go to football matches or even have much interest in football in general.
My lad works in Cov...because of my Villa love he often mentions us in conversations...the responses are varied in strength but always negative. He always follows up by asking if they go to games...none of them do.
IIRC they were pretty well supported on their way up in the 60s, through the 70s and a bit into the 80s...then the club seemed to go ti*s up big time!

Fu*k the fu*kers.



In the very early eighties, before attendances really dropped across the whole country Coventry always seemed to get the lowest top flight crowds. Along with Notts County if I remember right.
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Post by: dave shelley on May 28, 2015, 12:56:39 PM
I've been home over a week now and, I haven't seen a single Nose allowed out in a Nose shirt.  Seen plenty of Villa, even over here in Wolverhampton.  The closest I've come is an old Chav in Stratford on BHM.  He was walking a nice Red Setter and, as he came by me I noticed he was wearing a Bling necklace with the two bollocks on it.
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Post by: Ads on May 28, 2015, 01:21:45 PM
Baggie Bill's 'awards' of the season.

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Friendliest Away Game
Blues away in the FA Cup

Shows what a poor journalist he is, because there was disorder in Digbeth before the game. Howell is a massive sad sack.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 28, 2015, 04:43:44 PM
Howell

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Tony Pulis has earmarked former England striker Peter Crouch for a summer move to The Hawthorns.

The 34-year-old centre-forward only signed a new two year contract with Stoke City in January.

But it has not gone unnoticed that Crouch was restricted to late cameos off the bench in the closing months of the season.

Mark Hughes may listen to offers in a bid to freshen up his own squad at the Britannia.

Crouch joined Pulis at Stoke in 2011 at the age of 30 for a club record £12 million.

Pulis has to freshen up his goalscoring options and is planning on Saido Berahino remaining at West Bromwich Albion despite his agent Aidy Ward seemingly having a strong desire to entice him to one of the big boys.

Pulis would willingly allow Victor Anichebe to leave should a suitable offer come forth with 12 months remaining on his contract.

Brown Ideye’s form tailed off markedly after he missed a sitter at Villa Park in the FA Cup. Likewise he is under contract with Pulis pleased with the Nigerian’s attitude if not his all-round game.

It will be interesting to see if a big money offer comes forth from Qatar which almost saw him quit the club in January when Carlton Cole was lined up to join.
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Post by: aj2k77 on May 28, 2015, 05:06:47 PM
Crouch, Delap and a chopper donkey like Cattermole and I'd say that's perfect business.
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Post by: Richard E on May 28, 2015, 05:24:59 PM
Baggie Bill's 'awards' of the season.

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Friendliest Away Game
Blues away in the FA Cup

Shows what a poor journalist he is, because there was disorder in Digbeth before the game. Howell is a massive sad sack.

Bill Howell is a journalist? When did that happen???
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Post by: Villa in Denmark on May 28, 2015, 09:25:12 PM
Howell

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Tony Pulis has earmarked former England striker Peter Crouch for a summer move to The Hawthorns.

The 34-year-old centre-forward only signed a new two year contract with Stoke City in January.

But it has not gone unnoticed that Crouch was restricted to late cameos off the bench in the closing months of the season.

Mark Hughes may listen to offers in a bid to freshen up his own squad at the Britannia.

Crouch joined Pulis at Stoke in 2011 at the age of 30 for a club record £12 million.

Pulis has to freshen up his goalscoring options and is planning on Saido Berahino remaining at West Bromwich Albion despite his agent Aidy Ward seemingly having a strong desire to entice him to one of the big boys.

Pulis would willingly allow Victor Anichebe to leave should a suitable offer come forth with 12 months remaining on his contract.

Brown Ideye’s form tailed off markedly after he missed a sitter at Villa Park in the FA Cup. Likewise he is under contract with Pulis pleased with the Nigerian’s attitude if not his all-round game.

It will be interesting to see if a big money offer comes forth from Qatar which almost saw him quit the club in January when Carlton Cole was lined up to join.

What form?  He was shit pretty much all season.
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Post by: aj2k77 on May 28, 2015, 09:36:09 PM
Howell

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Tony Pulis has earmarked former England striker Peter Crouch for a summer move to The Hawthorns.

The 34-year-old centre-forward only signed a new two year contract with Stoke City in January.

But it has not gone unnoticed that Crouch was restricted to late cameos off the bench in the closing months of the season.

Mark Hughes may listen to offers in a bid to freshen up his own squad at the Britannia.

Crouch joined Pulis at Stoke in 2011 at the age of 30 for a club record £12 million.

Pulis has to freshen up his goalscoring options and is planning on Saido Berahino remaining at West Bromwich Albion despite his agent Aidy Ward seemingly having a strong desire to entice him to one of the big boys.

Pulis would willingly allow Victor Anichebe to leave should a suitable offer come forth with 12 months remaining on his contract.

Brown Ideye’s form tailed off markedly after he missed a sitter at Villa Park in the FA Cup. Likewise he is under contract with Pulis pleased with the Nigerian’s attitude if not his all-round game.

It will be interesting to see if a big money offer comes forth from Qatar which almost saw him quit the club in January when Carlton Cole was lined up to join.

What form?  He was shit pretty much all season.

He scored 4 goals in a 6 day period. In the other 10 months/27 games he managed 3 goals.
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Post by: Villa in Denmark on May 28, 2015, 09:39:25 PM
So he's on a par with Vardy at Leicester then.
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Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on May 28, 2015, 09:41:04 PM
Howell

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Tony Pulis has earmarked former England striker Peter Crouch for a summer move to The Hawthorns.

The 34-year-old centre-forward only signed a new two year contract with Stoke City in January.

But it has not gone unnoticed that Crouch was restricted to late cameos off the bench in the closing months of the season.

Mark Hughes may listen to offers in a bid to freshen up his own squad at the Britannia.

Crouch joined Pulis at Stoke in 2011 at the age of 30 for a club record £12 million.

Pulis has to freshen up his goalscoring options and is planning on Saido Berahino remaining at West Bromwich Albion despite his agent Aidy Ward seemingly having a strong desire to entice him to one of the big boys.

Pulis would willingly allow Victor Anichebe to leave should a suitable offer come forth with 12 months remaining on his contract.

Brown Ideye’s form tailed off markedly after he missed a sitter at Villa Park in the FA Cup. Likewise he is under contract with Pulis pleased with the Nigerian’s attitude if not his all-round game.

It will be interesting to see if a big money offer comes forth from Qatar which almost saw him quit the club in January when Carlton Cole was lined up to join.

What form?  He was shit pretty much all season.
That was when he had that golden spell of scoring 2 or 3 goals in a month and Howell was comparing Ideye with Benteke, the former being hailed as the Bitters' version of Drogba, the latter as useless.

Which has worked out nicely.

Fu*k the fu*ker! 
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Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on May 28, 2015, 09:48:03 PM
Howell

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Tony Pulis has earmarked former England striker Peter Crouch for a summer move to The Hawthorns.

The 34-year-old centre-forward only signed a new two year contract with Stoke City in January.

But it has not gone unnoticed that Crouch was restricted to late cameos off the bench in the closing months of the season.

Mark Hughes may listen to offers in a bid to freshen up his own squad at the Britannia.

Crouch joined Pulis at Stoke in 2011 at the age of 30 for a club record £12 million.

Pulis has to freshen up his goalscoring options and is planning on Saido Berahino remaining at West Bromwich Albion despite his agent Aidy Ward seemingly having a strong desire to entice him to one of the big boys.

Pulis would willingly allow Victor Anichebe to leave should a suitable offer come forth with 12 months remaining on his contract.

Brown Ideye’s form tailed off markedly after he missed a sitter at Villa Park in the FA Cup. Likewise he is under contract with Pulis pleased with the Nigerian’s attitude if not his all-round game.

It will be interesting to see if a big money offer comes forth from Qatar which almost saw him quit the club in January when Carlton Cole was lined up to join.

What form?  He was shit pretty much all season.
But saying it was at Villa Park means it was our fault.
A bit like those in the Lower North deliberately not avoiding the broken seats thrown at them. Or those extinguishers being painted in a provocative shade of red!
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Post by: AVH87 on May 28, 2015, 09:54:52 PM
Just seen Brown Ideye's stats, 4 goals in 24 Prem games. Wow, that's a £10 million flop all right, cost more than Benteke  ;D
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Post by: KRS on May 29, 2015, 12:27:23 AM
I predicted that Pulis would sign Crouch and Huth...rumours are the Huth is off to Leicester but I'd piss myself if Crouch ended up at Baggies.
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Post by: Nev on May 29, 2015, 05:33:31 AM
Their manager couldn't get through his awards speech without mentioning us. They get more like Small Heath every day.
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Post by: Clampy on May 29, 2015, 07:13:58 AM
This is what Mr Long Ball said.

''There were two real disappointing weeks in the season: the League game against Villa where Ben made that mistake in the last seconds of the four minutes that they added on that gave them an extra two points.

“It would have been lovely me stood here watching them sweat this weekend - maybe next year eh?!

Oh dear.
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Post by: Dr Butler on May 29, 2015, 08:19:24 AM
dear lord, what a tool Tiny Penis is...

UTV
The Doc
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Post by: Villa in Denmark on May 29, 2015, 08:21:15 AM
Playing to his audience, the ones that can count to 22 one hands and feet.
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