I'd started to think early last season that he was going to become one of the "toxic" remnants of the MON era, but in the run in last year, in pre season, and so far this season, he has been absolutely superb.Hasn't had a season injury free,if he does he could become a very special player.
He looks calm on the ball, holds on to it well, runs his bollocks off, and is getting better and better.
Does anyone know what he has left on his contract? given the raft of them we gave out over the summer, he must be in line for one?
Add me to the list of those now eating their words. He's looking the real deal.
Pubehead mentioned soon after buying Delph that he needs to watch his tackling as the way he dived in was more likely going to injure himself then the player he was going in for. Unfortunately this has proven true. But recently under Lambert he has reduced that so hopefully he will suffer from less injuries.Just show's how little time he spent training the players,he had long enough to show him.
He was very very good tonight, it was possibly his best game for us. He was our best player at Arsenal too.indeed he was an utter terrier wasn't he? I was in the (very) lower tier so it's hard to see fully all the ground he covered tonight, but loved how much he snapped at their heals, broke stuff up and surged. will look fwd to finding a full match archive online and watching him through the TV camera :)
He is the new PetrovVery similar isn't he?
He is the new Petrov
I was a fan when he signed, having been upbraided by Leeds fans up here about his ability and potential. I'm delighted and - as a former manager might say: "triffic, just triffic".
He absolutely bossed the midfield second half last night. You can see the effect a run of games has had on his confidence, as he picks the ball up and glides past players with ease.
Agree with purpletrousers - we need a song for Fab!
Any offers?
I love that thing he does to completely change direction when faced with an opponent. it's like a chopping action on the ball with his heel, which sends the other guy the wrong way and him into space. Glorious.He learned that off Stan Petrov. It was Stan's signature move.
Agree with purpletrousers - we need a song for Fab!
Any offers?
Agree with purpletrousers - we need a song for Fab!
Any offers?
I'm sure there was one in his Leeds days that went something like -
Fabian Delph
Fabian Delph
Fabian Delph, Fabian Delph, Fabian Delph
He dribbles like Jaizinho
He shoots like Rivelinho
He's better than ...(cannot remember the name)
De de de de de
Fabian Delph, Fabian Delph, Fabain Delph....
To the tune of adams Family.
Agree with purpletrousers - we need a song for Fab!
Any offers?
I'm sure there was one in his Leeds days that went something like -
Fabian Delph
Fabian Delph
Fabian Delph, Fabian Delph, Fabian Delph
He dribbles like Jaizinho
He shoots like Rivelinho
He's better than ...(cannot remember the name)
De de de de de
Fabian Delph, Fabian Delph, Fabain Delph....
To the tune of adams Family.
That sounds awesome, any excuse to get the Addams Family into Football!
Agree with purpletrousers - we need a song for Fab!
Any offers?
I'm sure there was one in his Leeds days that went something like -
Fabian Delph
Fabian Delph
Fabian Delph, Fabian Delph, Fabian Delph
He dribbles like Jaizinho
He shoots like Rivelinho
He's better than ...(cannot remember the name)
De de de de de
Fabian Delph, Fabian Delph, Fabain Delph....
To the tune of adams Family.
Agree with purpletrousers - we need a song for Fab!
Any offers?
I'm sure there was one in his Leeds days that went something like -
Fabian Delph
Fabian Delph
Fabian Delph, Fabian Delph, Fabian Delph
He dribbles like Jaizinho
He shoots like Rivelinho
He's better than ...(cannot remember the name)
De de de de de
Fabian Delph, Fabian Delph, Fabain Delph....
To the tune of adams Family.
That sounds awesome, any excuse to get the Addams Family into Football!
Uncle Fester was a pundit no so long ago.(http://www.footballfancast.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/wilkins-300x225.jpg)
I'd started to think early last season that he was going to become one of the "toxic" remnants of the MON era, but in the run in last year, in pre season, and so far this season, he has been absolutely superb.
He looks calm on the ball, holds on to it well, runs his bollocks off, and is getting better and better.
Does anyone know what he has left on his contract? given the raft of them we gave out over the summer, he must be in line for one?
Agree with purpletrousers - we need a song for Fab!
Any offers?
I'm sure there was one in his Leeds days that went something like -
Fabian Delph
Fabian Delph
Fabian Delph, Fabian Delph, Fabian Delph
He dribbles like Jaizinho
He shoots like Rivelinho
He's better than ...(cannot remember the name)
De de de de de
Fabian Delph, Fabian Delph, Fabain Delph....
To the tune of adams Family.
Not as goofy as Ronaldinho?
I've been a fan since I saw him play against Blackburn in the FA Cup game in MON's last or penultimate season. I just thought he had something about him, but he just never seemed to get a good run in the team for one reason or another, and made too many daft challenges when he did play. But you could always see there was a good footballer in there and I'm glad he's finally starting to live up to that promise under a manager who obviously believes in him. Could end up as MON's best ever signing for us.
I always believed in the lad (mind you, I believed in Stefano Irlanda too), so I'm delighted he's finally strung a run of games together where he's consistently been one of the best players on the pitch.
He had one horror injury, only really got a decent run under McLeish prior to now and struggled a bit for form. Though in fairness he did allow Petrov license to get forward and score a few goals that season. He then went back to Leeds on-loan where he didn't pull up many trees, picked-up another lengthy injury and I think there were quotes from him at the time saying he would welcome a move back there.
But there were occasional sparks of quality - his debut in that friendly against Fiorentina, one FA Cup game against Brighton where he scored a belter, another against Blackburn when he was playing wide-left and put through an absolute stunner of a ball which had H&Vers groaning in ecstacy. Just enough there to be deemed worth persevering with.
He's our second-longest serving player after Gabby, so I hope he's grown to love it here as we will be batting off other clubs if he keeps up this form. Also very good value in interviews. No boring, press officer approved answers - check out his last one on avtv about teaching Tony Moon swear words in English like he used to with Carlos the Jackal or the time he stayed in a haunted hotel in Brum after signing for us. The self-proclaimed gobbiest one in the squad but that will stand us in good stead as we "bully" our way into the Champs League. I like the way he physically raged at a free-kick awarded against him last night. He will have to watch the bookings but it's a bit of a relief that they are now more likely for dissent than for lunging into challenges. Our most important midfielder without question.
If The Gnasher had not been banned, he would be getting some serious stick about The Delphster, and no mistake.
...another against Blackburn when he was playing wide-left and put through an absolute stunner of a ball which had H&Vers groaning in ecstacy.Was that the game when he was stuck in at left-back in the second half?
If The Gnasher had not been banned, he would be getting some serious stick about The Delphster, and no mistake.
The late Malcolm Everall was also keen to put down Delph, because he'd been brought in by MON. Possibly Greg's motivation was similar?
Risso wasn't a fan either. He was the one who said he was the worst player to ever wear a Villa shirt.
...another against Blackburn when he was playing wide-left and put through an absolute stunner of a ball which had H&Vers groaning in ecstacy.Was that the game when he was stuck in at left-back in the second half?
If so, I can still remember it now, cut inside their winger - played a curling ball with the outside of his foot taking out their right-back into the path of (I assume Gabby) who didn't really do much with it.
But if that's what you're talking about, it was gorgeous.
Funny how many people here have always rated him.
About a year ago the consensus seemed to be that he was hopeless, or worse.
Hmmmm
Funny how many people here have always rated him.
About a year ago the consensus seemed to be that he was hopeless, or worse.
Hmmmm
There were a few people writing off KEA last season as well. I know the jury will still be out but you just have to give some players time.
Funny how many people here have always rated him.
About a year ago the consensus seemed to be that he was hopeless, or worse.
Hmmmm
There were a few people writing off KEA last season as well. I know the jury will still be out but you just have to give some players time.
Indeed, i was one of those who wrote off kea but my word he has been superb in the opening two games , if he keeps this form going he will prove to be a real asset.
There are a few players who have had stick for not performing ie, gabby, kea , Delph, Bennett but the players deserve credit for getting things back on track - all players will go through bad times and I'm delighted we have so many who are looking on form now.
when we signed Fabian a friend of mine who is a dirty Leeds fan told me he was the next "Gerrard" so after seeing him play a bit for the Villa I was abit underwhelmed by him.Think I've posted something very similar to this on here before, Doc.
but by god he is starting to show what he can do now ! and if he can weigh in with 8/10 goals then he might find himself as an outside chance for Rio in the summer....
UTV
Funny how many people here have always rated him.
About a year ago the consensus seemed to be that he was hopeless, or worse.
Hmmmm
Agree with purpletrousers - we need a song for Fab!
Any offers?
I'm sure there was one in his Leeds days that went something like -
Fabian Delph
Fabian Delph
Fabian Delph, Fabian Delph, Fabian Delph
He dribbles like Jaizinho
He shoots like Rivelinho
He's better than ...(cannot remember the name)
De de de de de
Fabian Delph, Fabian Delph, Fabain Delph....
To the tune of adams Family.
That sounds awesome, any excuse to get the Addams Family into Football!
Agree with purpletrousers - we need a song for Fab!
Any offers?
I'm sure there was one in his Leeds days that went something like -
Fabian Delph
Fabian Delph
Fabian Delph, Fabian Delph, Fabian Delph
He dribbles like Jaizinho
He shoots like Rivelinho
He's better than ...(cannot remember the name)
De de de de de
Fabian Delph, Fabian Delph, Fabain Delph....
To the tune of adams Family.
That sounds awesome, any excuse to get the Addams Family into Football!
Need to hear it being sung but I honestly thought it sounded terrible when I just hummed it out loud.
Think the Leeds fans sung it when Robinho was at Man City.
He dribbles like Jaizinho,
He shoots like Rivelinho,
He's better than Ronaldinho,
He's fabulous Fabian Delph.
Fabian Delph.
Fabian Delph.
Fabian Delph, Fabian Delph, Fabian Delph....
any chant with more than 3 or 4 words in it will find it difficult to catch on
any chant with more than 3 or 4 words in it will find it difficult to catch on
leeds, leeds, leeds
Think the Leeds fans sung it when Robinho was at Man City.
He dribbles like Jaizinho,
He shoots like Rivelinho,
He's better than Ronaldinho,
He's fabulous Fabian Delph.
Fabian Delph.
Fabian Delph.
Fabian Delph, Fabian Delph, Fabian Delph....
There we go
Funny how many people here have always rated him.
About a year ago the consensus seemed to be that he was hopeless, or worse.
Hmmmm
Funny how many people here have always rated him.
About a year ago the consensus seemed to be that he was hopeless, or worse.
Hmmmm
Not funny at all. Some have admitted on here having written him off, others, like me, have said they always thought he had something. It's not an unusual split of opinion. Less impressively for me I also thought Craig Gardner and Curtis Davies had something, although the former hasn't had a bad career, and I've a feeling the latter will surprise a few now he's back in the PL.
Funny how many people here have always rated him.
About a year ago the consensus seemed to be that he was hopeless, or worse.
Hmmmm
Not funny at all. Some have admitted on here having written him off, others, like me, have said they always thought he had something. It's not an unusual split of opinion. Less impressively for me I also thought Craig Gardner and Curtis Davies had something, although the former hasn't had a bad career, and I've a feeling the latter will surprise a few now he's back in the PL.
I was Bannan's biggest cheerleader and thought Ireland was better than Milner. I also wrote Delph off, so I've had a few shockers over the last couple of years. Also I was dead against the appointment of Lambo, which I think is the wrongest call in the history of H&V.
Man of the match by a long way for me today.
Man of the match by a long way for me today.
Quite agree although Sky managed to give that acolade to 'one shot' Sturridge.
I don't think either Westwood or Weimann could have much argument if they didn't start the Newcastle game.
I don't think either Westwood or Weimann could have much argument if they didn't start the Newcastle game.
I agree, but who would come in for them? Unless, of course, we sign the mythical playmaker.
You see Ash has to start everytime for me. He reads the game well and keeps possession ticking over with simple passes.
I know these aren't eyecatching things like a Delph mazy run and very often the perceived player who isn't doing much will get criticised when the team loses but nah Ash is a guaranteed starter in my mind.
He's a bit like Carrick really, player who gets a lot of stick but is a vital cog in the United midfield as he does the simple things very well.
I don't think either Westwood or Weimann could have much argument if they didn't start the Newcastle game.
I agree, but who would come in for them? Unless, of course, we sign the mythical playmaker.
KEA and Tonev.
I don't think either Westwood or Weimann could have much argument if they didn't start the Newcastle game.
I agree, but who would come in for them? Unless, of course, we sign the mythical playmaker.
KEA and Tonev.
But leave Bacuna in the side?
I don't think either Westwood or Weimann could have much argument if they didn't start the Newcastle game.
Man of the match by a long way for me today.
Quite agree although Sky managed to give that acolade to 'one shot' Sturridge.
For some reason i'm not surprised. Did Sturridge ever touch the ball apart from the goal?
Man of the match by a long way for me today.
Quite agree although Sky managed to give that acolade to 'one shot' Sturridge.
For some reason i'm not surprised. Did Sturridge ever touch the ball apart from the goal?
Not much but nearly won a penalty at the end. Made more sense to give it to him then the club giving it to Bacuna.
I don't think either Westwood or Weimann could have much argument if they didn't start the Newcastle game.
I agree, but who would come in for them? Unless, of course, we sign the mythical playmaker.
KEA and Tonev.
But leave Bacuna in the side?
Sylla.
I don't think either Westwood or Weimann could have much argument if they didn't start the Newcastle game.
I agree, but who would come in for them? Unless, of course, we sign the mythical playmaker.
KEA and Tonev.
But leave Bacuna in the side?
Sylla.
I C.
My man of the match would have been Gerrard, TBH. I can think of two or three other Liverpool players I'd also rank ahead of Sturridge for today, as well as Delph and Okore from us.
Gerrard was very good defensively in the second half.
Did I hear it correctly? Bacuna got the sponsors man of the match? I take it they coiffed more champagne than normal today.
Thought Delph was excellent today, one of the few who seemed some real urgency in their play - can only assume the sponsors genuinely got them mixed up!
Gerrard was very good defensively in the second half.
That was what impressed me about him. Especially as Liverpool's gameplan revolved around trying to limit our attacks. Maybe I had low expectations of him as I've been saying that he's past it for the last few years.
Agree that Delph was genuinely excellent and has been in all the first three games. Especially considering the opposition in them.
My man of the match would have been Gerrard, TBH. I can think of two or three other Liverpool players I'd also rank ahead of Sturridge for today, as well as Delph and Okore from us.
Fabian Delph and Jores Okore were the main men against Liverpool when it came to statistics.
For the second game running, Delph did well in a host of categories, including attacking passes, interceptions and fouls suffered.
Okore, too, impressed in ball recoveries and take-ons.
Delph was No.3 for passes with 58 successful from 67 attempted. Okore was No.4 with 54 successful from 60 attempted. Lucas Leiva and Steven Gerrard were No.1 and No.2 respectively.
Delph was No.1 for attacking third passes with 14 successful from 19 attempted.
Gabriel Agbonlahor, Christian Benteke, Ashley Westwood and Okore were all joint No.2 for chances created with two.
Leandro Bacuna was No.3 for take-ons, with two successful from three created. Delph and Okore were joint No.4 with two successful from two attempted.
Okore was No.1 for ball recoveries with nine.
Bacuna was No.1 for tackles with six successful from seven attempted.
Delph was No.1 for interceptions with six. Ron Vlaar was No.5 with two.
Vlaar was No.2 for blocks with one.
Okore was No.3 for clearances with eight out of eight. Delph was No.4 with five from five.
Delph was No.1 for fouls suffered with three.
Christian Benteke was No.2 for shots, with three in total and two on target. Daniel Sturridge was No.1 with one in total, one on target and one goal.
Benteke was No.2 for aerial duels with five successful from 12 attempted. Glen Johnson was No.1.
Antonio Luna to Delph was the No.1 pass combination with 20 while No.2 was Delph to Luna with 19. Okore to Vlaar was No.4 with 14 while Vlaar to Okore was No.5 with 13.
I thought Delph was superb yesterday, he looks so comfortable in posession and I can see him going on to become captain of our club in a few years.
I thought Delph was superb yesterday, he looks so comfortable in posession and I can see him going on to become captain of our club in a few years.
Its the only MON signing that's still left ?
a year ago I thought it was a waste of £6 million but he's looking excellent value at the moment.
Its the only MON signing that's still left ?
a year ago I thought it was a waste of £6 million but he's looking excellent value at the moment.
Mon signed Guzan too.
Its the only MON signing that's still left ?
a year ago I thought it was a waste of £6 million but he's looking excellent value at the moment.
Mon signed Guzan too.
Pedant alert. Lambert signed Guzan. He was a free agent after being released at the end of McLeish's season in charge.
With Townsend, Sterling and Barkley in the England squad, I would be well pissed off if I was Delph. He has been excellent both the back end of last and the start of this season.
With Townsend, Sterling and Barkley in the England squad, I would be well pissed off if I was Delph. He has been excellent both the back end of last and the start of this season.
Just said the same thing to my mate, who supports Everton, and to be fair, he's bemused at to how Barkley has got a call after two Premier League games.
Its the only MON signing that's still left ?
a year ago I thought it was a waste of £6 million but he's looking excellent value at the moment.
Mon signed Guzan too.
Pedant alert. Lambert signed Guzan. He was a free agent after being released at the end of McLeish's season in charge.
But MON initially signed him, TSM never played him and signed Given and nearly lost him and Lambert re-signed him. So technically saying MON signed him is correct.
And Andros Townsend?! Ridiculous.He's probably been Spurs best player so far this season and was very good for QPR at the end of last.
@RobbieSavage8: And on England Delph for villa has been good 10 games towards end last season and so far this .. Barkley just 2/3 games this season ?Colour me surprised. Savage bigging up Villa players. He is right though.
@RobbieSavage8: Very surprised agbonlahor is not in squad ahead of Ashley young or Defoe to that matter ?
I'm happy to keep them out of the squad for as long as possiblE. It never ends well!
Thank you Roy! I am very grateful our players are not risked in crappy international football. Wilmots plz take note and drop Benteke, Lukaku is a much better option.
And Andros Townsend?! Ridiculous.He's probably been Spurs best player so far this season and was very good for QPR at the end of last.
There are plenty more players in this squad more worthy of ridicule than Townsend.
Woy will be gone within a couple of months when England fail to qualify & he'll deserve it. Never liked the sour faced cnut anyway.
Now, Delph may be looking around and thinking "what do I have to do to get an England call up" and his agent might whisper in his ear "move to a higher profile club"
Why shouldn't he? For the last nine months or so he's been comfortably the best English player in his position. The fact that he's been doing that for QPR and Spurs is irrelevant.And Andros Townsend?! Ridiculous.He's probably been Spurs best player so far this season and was very good for QPR at the end of last.
There are plenty more players in this squad more worthy of ridicule than Townsend.
My point is, Andre Townsend shouldn't be anywhere near the England squad, and if he wasn't playing for a glamorous London team, he wouldn't be.
(http://images.teamtalk.com/13/08/480/EnglishXI_2994226.jpg)
Not sure I've ever been so chuffed with a Villa players improvement, over what is a decent amount of time now, including how good he was in the latter part of last season. Great goal he scored tonight as well, marvellous!
Another class display by Delph and a great goal too, pretty silly booking though , if he can control that side of his game he will develop into a very good player indeed.
The way he took his goal tonight (with his bad foot!) reminded me of Dwight Yorke in his prime.And before Dwight, David platt.
Great to see him playing so well and being a regular. He can still be a bit rash with his tackling, like for his yellow card last night but he's been doing less of that recently and hopefully he can continue to improve there. With the consistency he's been showing he must be starting to come into the thoughts of Hodgson for the England squad.
I have just realised who Delph reminds me of-Alex Cropley. No-they do not look like each other, but it is the way he tackles, harries and passes the ball. He even has the odd lope in his stride that Cropley had-just before he tackles or passes. I mean this as a great compliment to him.best leave him on the bench against the stripeyfilth then hey?
Hope he has a longer career with us and doesn't emulate Alex with a second bad injury.
paul: as others have said, I really don't give a fuck if our players don't get picked for England ( or Belgium, or Bulgaria or Denmark) - I'd prefer it if they are fresh for us next up against the Geordies ( I think?) international football is pretty much dead to me now. Woy is doing us a favour by overlooking Delph and Gabby as far as I'm concerned.Great to see him playing so well and being a regular. He can still be a bit rash with his tackling, like for his yellow card last night but he's been doing less of that recently and hopefully he can continue to improve there. With the consistency he's been showing he must be starting to come into the thoughts of Hodgson for the England squad.
He's in better form than most of the midfielders in the England squad (ditto Gabby with the strikers). I have absolutely no idea how Woy can justify either of them not having been picked, Raheem Stirling ahead of Gabby has to be the most absurd decision I've ever seen from an England manager.
I really don't give a fuck if our players don't get picked for England ( or Belgium, or Bulgaria or Denmark)The players themselves might though. If Benteke or Okore stop being picked for Belgium or Denmark and see the likes of Lukaku and Agger being picked instead then they are more likely to want to move to clubs with more exposure.
I really don't give a fuck if our players don't get picked for England ( or Belgium, or Bulgaria or Denmark)The players themselves might though. If Benteke or Okore stop being picked for Belgium or Denmark and see the likes of Lukaku and Agger being picked instead then they are more likely to want to move to clubs with more exposure.
You're arguing against a point that I'm not making.I really don't give a fuck if our players don't get picked for England ( or Belgium, or Bulgaria or Denmark)The players themselves might though. If Benteke or Okore stop being picked for Belgium or Denmark and see the likes of Lukaku and Agger being picked instead then they are more likely to want to move to clubs with more exposure.
Don't think Delph is quite at the stage to be playing for a team that much better than us though, do you?
As for Benteke, would he have preferred to have another season of scoring goals as the teams main striker, or sit on the bench for half the matches and hardly scoring? I think he'd be noticed more for scoring. In meaningful matches, it'll be interesting to see if Benteke plays ahead of Lukaku for Belgium.
Nice to see him win player of the month, fully deserved in my view as well.
You're arguing against a point that I'm not making.I really don't give a fuck if our players don't get picked for England ( or Belgium, or Bulgaria or Denmark)The players themselves might though. If Benteke or Okore stop being picked for Belgium or Denmark and see the likes of Lukaku and Agger being picked instead then they are more likely to want to move to clubs with more exposure.
Don't think Delph is quite at the stage to be playing for a team that much better than us though, do you?
As for Benteke, would he have preferred to have another season of scoring goals as the teams main striker, or sit on the bench for half the matches and hardly scoring? I think he'd be noticed more for scoring. In meaningful matches, it'll be interesting to see if Benteke plays ahead of Lukaku for Belgium.
I'm disagreeing with the person who says that he doesn't want our players to play international football. Because if that's what those players want to do and they think that they can't do it with us then they'll try and go to where they can.
I disagree with that point. Whilst it may happen in England that players get picked on who they play for, I don't think it's that way in Europe, though I could be wrong. Hence I think Benteke would be happy at the moment scoring goals whilst playing every game, unlike what he'd be doing if he was at a club with more exposure as they are far more likely to have players as good as him, if not better.My point is that I would like as many of our players as possible to be playing international football because it will mean a) they are probably playing quite well and b) it shows them and others that we are a club at which lots of players play international football.
I disagree with that point. Whilst it may happen in England that players get picked on who they play for, I don't think it's that way in Europe, though I could be wrong. Hence I think Benteke would be happy at the moment scoring goals whilst playing every game, unlike what he'd be doing if he was at a club with more exposure as they are far more likely to have players as good as him, if not better.My point is that I would like as many of our players as possible to be playing international football because it will mean a) they are probably playing quite well and b) it shows them and others that we are a club at which lots of players play international football.
Nothing more than that.
Why shouldn't he? For the last nine months or so he's been comfortably the best English player in his position. The fact that he's been doing that for QPR and Spurs is irrelevant.And Andros Townsend?! Ridiculous.He's probably been Spurs best player so far this season and was very good for QPR at the end of last.
There are plenty more players in this squad more worthy of ridicule than Townsend.
My point is, Andre Townsend shouldn't be anywhere near the England squad, and if he wasn't playing for a glamorous London team, he wouldn't be.
If he were playing as well as he is for a different team and not being picked (like say, Delph) then there's cause for grievance.
Picking players in form is exactly what should be happening and in this particular case it actually is happening.
Anyone seen his post match interview on AVTV? He is good value, talked about how he was having a rubbish game and his goal dug him "out of a nightmare", how if he was a fan he would be frustrated with his Villa career and he appreciates the support and will score a league goal "when pigs start flying". I said at the start of the season he would end up our player of the year, and I am sticking by that.
Anyone seen his post match interview on AVTV? He is good value, talked about how he was having a rubbish game and his goal dug him "out of a nightmare", how if he was a fan he would be frustrated with his Villa career and he appreciates the support and will score a league goal "when pigs start flying". I said at the start of the season he would end up our player of the year, and I am sticking by that.
He really does come across as a likeable chap, and I think you're right, he will be our player of the year.
Fabian Delph was thrilled to receive a standing ovation on his exit from action in the 3-0 win over Rotherham.
Villa supporters rose to their feet to applaud the dynamic midfielder when he came off in the 60th minute in B6.
Delph says that kind of appreciation means a lot to him, particularly when he recalls the injury woes he has suffered in his claret and blue career to date.
He said: "The fans have been great with me. They've been patient.
"I think I've been here four years now and I've been injured most of them.
"If I'm being honest if I was a fan I'd probably be a bit frustrated thinking 'Oh when's he going to start playing.'
"All credit to them, though, they've backed me all the way and it was nice to come off and hear the applause from the fans."
Delph was quoted in the matchday programme saying he needed to score more goals and, as if by magic, he popped up with a fantastic effort in the second half.
He was delighted to get on the scoresheet - praising, in the process, Christian Benteke's awareness.
He added: "It was a great feeling ton score.
"I wasn't having the best of games but I kept going and managed to get the goal and pull myself out of it.
"Christian laid me in and he's the type of player who has got everything in his locker. I knew as soon as I laid it to him that I was going to get it back.
"I don't know how, but I knew it would reach me.
"He was moaning that I didn't take it first time with my left foot. I said to him that if I'd have done that I might have hit the corner flag.
"But I've managed to chop it back and put it in the back of the net."
Nice to see him win player of the month, fully deserved in my view as well.
Premier League player of the month, or was this the Aston Villa player of the month?
Both I'd agree with I should add.
Anyone seen his post match interview on AVTV? He is good value, talked about how he was having a rubbish game and his goal dug him "out of a nightmare", how if he was a fan he would be frustrated with his Villa career and he appreciates the support and will score a league goal "when pigs start flying". I said at the start of the season he would end up our player of the year, and I am sticking by that.
Its just a shame that when he tries to make a tackle his legs go all over the place like a newly born foal.
Harsh. Bit similar to comments about 12 years agin on Rooney. He looks to have something special to me. But so does delph
By Robbie Savage | 30/08/13
England caps should be earned on merit – not handed out to form-horses who have played two decent games at the start of a season.
I have nothing against Andros Townsend or Ross Barkley, who are both fine young players, but have they really done enough to warrant their call-ups into the squad for two World Cup qualifiers?
Last season, both went out on loan in the Championship – although Townsend went on to join QPR’s relegation battle in the Premier League – so their rise to the full England squad has been fairly meteoric.
But to me, these selections are more of a reflection on who they play for, rather than how good they are.
There is a black hole, halfway between London and the North West, called the Midlands.
And if Roy Hodgson popped in there to watch Aston Villa, surely he would know that Gabby Agbonlahor and Fabian Delph had been playing out of their skins.
I will have to be careful, or at this rate Villa fans might start to like me after I tipped them for relegation last season, but if sustained form is the main criterion for international honours, it’s illogical that Townsend and Barkley have been picked ahead of Agbonlahor and Delph.
Why have those two Villa boys not had a look-in?
If you need to have played for the Under-21s recently, or you have to play for a club in the top half of the Premier League, Hodgson should say so.
But if you are picking an England squad based on current form, there is no way Agbonlahor deserves to be overlooked.
He tore Arsenal to shreds at the Emirates on the opening day of the season.
Anyone who saw him that day would have marked him down as potential England material.
He was sensational.
So why has Townsend, who was superb for Tottenham in Tbilisi and a handful against Swansea at the weekend, got in ahead of him?
Or Ashley Young, who has played only 20 minutes of football since returning from a long-term injury, for that matter?
Could it be that they play for “fashionable” clubs?
If Agbonlahor and Delph played for a top-four club, would they be in the squad?
My guess is, yes they would.
Don’t get me wrong: Barkley is an exciting talent, and I believe he will go on to be top-drawer one day.
But two promising games for Everton don’t make you a legend.
This is not the first time I’ve been mystified by Hodgson’s selections lately.
His hunch in picking Rickie Lambert against Scotland paid off handsomely – and I was delighted for the Southampon striker that he came off the bench to head the winner.
But if he was good enough to play for England before the Premier League campaign had kicked off in August, why was he not good enough to make the squad last season, when he scored 15 goals for Saints?
What changed over the course of the summer?
It will be interesting to see how the pecking order reveals itself during the coming World Cup qualifying double-header.
Will Lambert keep the shirt or will Jermain Defoe – excellent player, good strike-rate for his country, but not currently in Tottenham’s first XI – get the nod ahead of him?
If England fans are confused by Hodgson’s logic, they are not alone.
I have nothing against Andros Townsend or Ross Barkley, who are both fine young players, but have they really done enough to warrant their call-ups into the squad for two World Cup qualifiers?I think an argument can be made that some Man Utd players get picked just because they play for Man Utd, but Everton players picked just because they play for Everton?
Last season, both went out on loan in the Championship – although Townsend went on to join QPR’s relegation battle in the Premier League – so their rise to the full England squad has been fairly meteoric.
But to me, these selections are more of a reflection on who they play for, rather than how good they are.
As much as I agree that Delph and Gabby deserved to be called up ahead of those who have, i'm actually glad that they haven't.
Do we really though? I bet you (and I) would have said the same about four years ago. Which out of that crop of players has gone on to be international class? Albrighton? Bannan? Delfouneso? Herd? Clark? Hogg?
As much as I agree that Delph and Gabby deserved to be called up ahead of those who have, i'm actually glad that they haven't.
Yes I think it's really important that our players know they can receive International recognition if they play for Villa. I appreciate there's the risk of tapping up, but at the same time it's as a big a risk to Villa if players feel they need to move to get selected by England. If our players perform they should be selected.
Yes I think it's really important that our players know they can receive International recognition if they play for Villa. I appreciate there's the risk of tapping up, but at the same time it's as a big a risk to Villa if players feel they need to move to get selected by England. If our players perform they should be selected.
Is my answer as well. Plus I like the fact that we hold the record for supplying most England players.
England players dropping like flies with injuries today, wouldn't be surprised if some of our lads got well deserved call ups.
Yes I think it's really important that our players know they can receive International recognition if they play for Villa. I appreciate there's the risk of tapping up, but at the same time it's as a big a risk to Villa if players feel they need to move to get selected by England. If our players perform they should be selected.
Is my answer as well. Plus I like the fact that we hold the record for supplying most England players.
Do we still hold that or have utd overtaken us?
He really is a quality player, and it think a quality addition to the midfield this month would get even more out of him.
He carries our midfield all of the time. If we put better players around him, he'll start to get more goals and assists.
He carries our midfield all of the time. If we put better players around him, he'll start to get more goals and assists.
The thing about Delph is that you genuinely feel he could be effective as a more attacking midfielder if moved a bit forward. What that does is give Lambert great options as if he can get a quality midfielder in, then should he be defensive we play him with Westood and push Delph forward, but if he's more a number 10 then Delph can play deeper alongside Westwood.
Villa need to sort a new contract for Delph. His current deal runs out in 2015, so hopefully they will act soon - only 18 months left like Hoolahan at Norwich. Fair play to Houllier for signing him on a 4 year contract in March 2011 when he was going through a serious of injury set backs.
God I hope not, don't want to get them tapped up or injured.
God I hope not, don't want to get them tapped up or injured.
We really do need to stop with this desire for our players not to get picked by England. Do you not think that players can get tapped up outside of the national team set up? Or that they don't have mates on other teams that they stay in touch with, or via common agents?
And why on earth would we not want our players playing at the highest level? It means they have done well and by extension so have the club. I want our players, of all nations to be representing their country because the message it sends is that you can achieve those ambitions playing for us and not have to join a so called "bigger" side. We cannot live in fear of our players leaving because quite frankly it is always going to happen. What we must do is put in place an environment where they don't want to leave and understand that they can be successful with us.
International games haven't been IMO at highest level in ages, probably since early or mid 2000s. World Cup 2010 was the worst world cup I've ever seen and Euro 2012 wasn't great either. Quality of the national teams have IMO plummeted since the 90s and early 2000s when football had its' golden generations in many countries, not just in england.
The real highest level is Champions League, and players know this.
Paul Scholes made it pretty clear what goes on at England matches with players from clubs like us - in fact, he specifically mentioned Villa by name.
Sorry to just jump into the general conversation but I was just browsing and saw this. What was it that Scholes said and how were the Villa linked?!
International games haven't been IMO at highest level in ages, probably since early or mid 2000s. World Cup 2010 was the worst world cup I've ever seen and Euro 2012 wasn't great either. Quality of the national teams have IMO plummeted since the 90s and early 2000s when football had its' golden generations in many countries, not just in england.
The real highest level is Champions League, and players know this.
so you're saying the Spain side that won the World Cup in 2010 wasn't as good as some of the sides that have won previous WC's? I think you will find very few that would agree with that. That Spain side has been outstanding now for about 5 years and have a solid chance of repeating. Top players can play in the CL every season. Do you think Ibrahimovich would rather be sat at home rather than be in Brazil? The chance at a WC comes around once every 4 years and for some because of who they represent never at all. Players want to play at the peak of their profession and nothing is higher than the WC.
Paul Scholes made it pretty clear what goes on at England matches with players from clubs like us - in fact, he specifically mentioned Villa by name.
I don't care too much about England so I'd really rather our players didn't play for the national team. I don't want them to risk injury and I don't want them to start getting itchy feet after hanging around with the likes of Gerrard and co..
Sorry to just jump into the general conversation but I was just browsing and saw this. What was it that Scholes said and how were the Villa linked?!
‘I always felt that players, especially at clubs like your Aston Villas, try to use England as a way to get to a top club. I think they are very selfish people.’
He must be the worst tackler in the history of football though, every one a lunge and a booking.
Though I hate Man United, Scholes is one of my favourite players on the PL era.
Even though he got massive respect from pretty much everyone, I still don't think he got as much as he should have, he still managed to be underrated.
Scholes was undoubtedly a class player, but everytime he got tackled or disposessed he was straight to the ref and usually got the free kick. But then that was common of all Man Utd's players in the Ferguson era.
Even though he got massive respect from pretty much everyone, I still don't think he got as much as he should have, he still managed to be underrated.
He seems to be more respected now in retrospect than he was during his career. For instance he was wasted as an England player by being stuck out on the left for most of the time in favour of a 4-4-2 system with Gerrard and Lampard in the centre. Really we should have either played 3 in the centre or picked and chose for the occasion or opponent whilst making sure Scholes wasn't wasted. Or that he felt valued so that he didn't retire early.
i dont entirely agree. If Clattermole had been in the class of 92, surrounded by a team that referees loved, he would have been remembered differently. And if Scholes had come through in Plunderlands class of 2008, ditto. Im not saying they are the same player, just ratd differently due to circumstances. Look at John O Shit and Wes-give-the-ball-away-Brown. Lucky players to have come through surrounded by excellence. Now....not so great
Even though he got massive respect from pretty much everyone, I still don't think he got as much as he should have, he still managed to be underrated.
He seems to be more respected now in retrospect than he was during his career. For instance he was wasted as an England player by being stuck out on the left for most of the time in favour of a 4-4-2 system with Gerrard and Lampard in the centre. Really we should have either played 3 in the centre or picked and chose for the occasion or opponent whilst making sure Scholes wasn't wasted. Or that he felt valued so that he didn't retire early.
And there in a nutshell is why England are lightyears behind at international level.
Even now we're for the most part stuck dogmatically with 442, for as far as I can see no better reason than it worked for Ramsey 48 years ago.
At the time we were pissing about with Scholes on the left of a 442, he was playing just of either a front one or front two for his club and looking like one of the best link-men / midfielders in Europe and being a constant goal threat himself.
Re his retirement from international football, I think it was intimated that Fergie had told him that if he wanted a new big fat contract he'd needed to stop playing for England. After years of banging his head up against a wall, could you really blame him if that was the case?
For years, if we could have looked beyond 442, and possibly even today, you could if you really wanted to, find a formation that could accommodate Lampard and Gerard without completely buggering the rest of the team up. If you were to use both 4-2-3-1 would probably work best, with Gerard one of the two to limit the amount of running he'd have to do.
As for Delph, he could make either a central or wide left position in 4-3-3- or 4-2-3-1 his own. Great that we're finally getting to see what all the fuss was about 5 years ago.
Hard to believe that he's only just turned 24. Hopefully we'll see him at his best over the next 6-7 years when he's at his peak.
But 3-5-2 for the Villa, '95-'98 saw us play our best football between '93 and now.
Much, much better?
Premier League players are much, much better than League 2 players. You're comparing a load of England Internationals who are all pretty similar standard. IMO they are all close in ability but i would rank them in the following order;
1 Beckham
2 Gerrard
3 Scholes
4 Lampard
And there in a nutshell is why England are light years behind at international level.
Even now we're for the most part stuck dogmatically with 442, for as far as I can see no better reason than it worked for Ramsey 48 years ago.
At the time we were pissing about with Scholes on the left of a 442, he was playing just of either a front one or front two for his club and looking like one of the best link-men / midfielders in Europe and being a constant goal threat himself.
Re his retirement from international football, I think it was intimated that Fergie had told him that if he wanted a new big fat contract he'd needed to stop playing for England. After years of banging his head up against a wall, could you really blame him if that was the case?
For years, if we could have looked beyond 442, and possibly even today, you could if you really wanted to, find a formation that could accommodate Lampard and Gerard without completely buggering the rest of the team up. If you were to use both 4-2-3-1 would probably work best, with Gerard one of the two to limit the amount of running he'd have to do.
As for Delph, he could make either a central or wide left position in 4-3-3- or 4-2-3-1 his own. Great that we're finally getting to see what all the fuss was about 5 years ago.
Hard to believe that he's only just turned 24. Hopefully we'll see him at his best over the next 6-7 years when he's at his peak.
Well, up to a point.
4-4-2 suited the players available at the time. It's easy to forget that Lampard and Gerrard were two of the best midfielders around at the time. To accommodate all 3 we would have risked exposing one flank because Beckham was a shoo-in on the right. Whatever we might think now he was justified in being in the team. Scholes was a good player but his tackling wasn't up to it and Gerrard and Lampard did show more. With all 4 in then you'd need a 5th player on the left for balance. Again, at the time Owen fed a lot off Heskey so they were the reason for playing two up front. Unless it went 3-5-2 then 4-4-2 was the only possible formation with the players available. 3-5-2 was worked out after it became vogue at Italia 90 and few years after that. 4-4-2 with one of the 3 being asked to fill in on the lank was the only reasonable formation for me.
He was played in an obsolete system which stodged up the whole team, Beckham and Lampard as much as anyone else. Gerrard might have run around a lot but he always gave the ball away. Xavi was was right when he said that if Scholes were Spanish he'd have been much more celebrated. Modern midfielders aren't Roy of the Rovers (shoot! tackle! run around!), they're Pirlo - they get themselves in the right positions in attack and defence, don't give the ball away and play from there.
Oh, and as for scoring enough goals from midfield, Scholes was well capable of that. The best pure striker of a football I've ever seen.
He was played in an obsolete system which stodged up the whole team, Beckham and Lampard as much as anyone else. Gerrard might have run around a lot but he always gave the ball away. Xavi was was right when he said that if Scholes were Spanish he'd have been much more celebrated. Modern midfielders aren't Roy of the Rovers (shoot! tackle! run around!), they're Pirlo - they get themselves in the right positions in attack and defence, don't give the ball away and play from there.
Oh, and as for scoring enough goals from midfield, Scholes was well capable of that. The best pure striker of a football I've ever seen.
I remember he scored an absolute belter against us at VP in the MON era, at the North Stand end, edge of area, clattered in off the bar.
I was sat in the Witton that game, and remember the extremely loud thud off the crossbar.
Wasn't there another one from a corner where they deliberately played it out to him in a similar area. I thought that was against us but might be mistaken.He scored a couple like that IIRC. Then teams worked out what was going to happen.
He was played in an obsolete system which stodged up the whole team, Beckham and Lampard as much as anyone else. Gerrard might have run around a lot but he always gave the ball away. Xavi was was right when he said that if Scholes were Spanish he'd have been much more celebrated. Modern midfielders aren't Roy of the Rovers (shoot! tackle! run around!), they're Pirlo - they get themselves in the right positions in attack and defence, don't give the ball away and play from there.
Oh, and as for scoring enough goals from midfield, Scholes was well capable of that. The best pure striker of a football I've ever seen.
I remember he scored an absolute belter against us at VP in the MON era, at the North Stand end, edge of area, clattered in off the bar.
I was sat in the Witton that game, and remember the extremely loud thud off the crossbar.
Wasn't there another one from a corner where they deliberately played it out to him in a similar area. I thought that was against us but might be mistaken.He scored a couple like that IIRC. Then teams worked out what was going to happen.
Scholes probably has one hell of a youtube compilation out there. Most of his goals were brilliant and his eye for a pass was exceptional.
I understand football quite well thanks. For a man that tackled consistently as well as I, can only ever be rated as good not great regardless of his other attributes
Lev Yashin had a rubbish goalscoring record.
Whoa! Scholes and Messi, Pele and Maradonna as the same level of greatness?!!!
Delph is now showing why we spent a fair wedge for him on the basis of his future potential.
He is a superb footballer who I believe will become a regular for England.
This lad is top, top draw.
Nice one Fabian.
Just imagine if he didn't have to do the work of three players?
He's our best midfielder by such a huge, gaping distance, it is embarrassing.
Spectacular goal today, he's having an excellent season.
It just makes you wonder how much we'd improve if we bought decent players to play alongside him.
It just makes you wonder how much we'd improve if we bought decent players to play alongside him.
His contract hasn't that long to go. We're going to have to put better around him if he is to stay.
magnificent tonight. I fully expect him to be left out of the next England squad.
magnificent tonight. I fully expect him to be left out of the next England squad.
magnificent tonight. I fully expect him to be left out of the next England squad.
He was good tonight, but not international class
magnificent tonight. I fully expect him to be left out of the next England squad.
He was good tonight, but not international class
He's easily good enough to get into the England team. What do you mean by "not international class?"
Definitely. The England side could certainly use a bit of pace and drive in the middle. I also fancy Delphy to get a few more goals this season. It seems like he's potentially adding it to his game. He's got a couple of belters this season and been close in other games.magnificent tonight. I fully expect him to be left out of the next England squad.
He was good tonight, but not international class
He's easily good enough to get into the England team. What do you mean by "not international class?"
If Jay Rodriguez can pull on an England jersey, Fabian Delph should be a shoo-in.
magnificent tonight. I fully expect him to be left out of the next England squad.
He was good tonight, but not international class
He's easily good enough to get into the England team. What do you mean by "not international class?"
magnificent tonight. I fully expect him to be left out of the next England squad.
He was good tonight, but not international class
He's easily good enough to get into the England team. What do you mean by "not international class?"
If Jay Rodriguez can pull on an England jersey, Fabian Delph should be a shoo-in.
magnificent tonight. I fully expect him to be left out of the next England squad.
He was good tonight, but not international class
He's easily good enough to get into the England team. What do you mean by "not international class?"
If Jay Rodriguez can pull on an England jersey, Fabian Delph should be a shoo-in.
And look how he performed. Well out of his league, same for Delph
You put a couple of half decent midfielders next to Delph, you'd never hear anyone ask for Milner to come back.
Is international football really all it's cracked up to be? And surely it depends on the international team in question as to whether someone is international class?
Of course it's my opinion. That's why we are here.
I can't think of 8/9 better English midfielders than him. He should make the squad at least. He's playing in a very weak midfield at the moment and still managing to win those battles, on his own a lot of the time.
Scoring a wonder goal was just a small part of his performance tonight. He's played better and not scored.
For most of the last 12 months he's regularly been our MOTM, or close to it, so playing against all these top class midfielders who are way better than him doesn't seem to cause him too many problems. Especially when the rest of our midfield is a tad on the weak side.
Is international football really all it's cracked up to be? And surely it depends on the international team in question as to whether someone is international class?
I suspect if he played against Germany he would get shown up much Like Barry did in 2010, and I love GB
For most of the last 12 months he's regularly been our MOTM, or close to it, so playing against all these top class midfielders who are way better than him doesn't seem to cause him too many problems. Especially when the rest of our midfield is a tad on the weak side.
And he is part of that weakness. Thats my point
For most of the last 12 months he's regularly been our MOTM, or close to it, so playing against all these top class midfielders who are way better than him doesn't seem to cause him too many problems. Especially when the rest of our midfield is a tad on the weak side.
And he is part of that weakness. Thats my point
magnificent tonight. I fully expect him to be left out of the next England squad.
He was good tonight, but not international class
For most of the last 12 months he's regularly been our MOTM, or close to it, so playing against all these top class midfielders who are way better than him doesn't seem to cause him too many problems. Especially when the rest of our midfield is a tad on the weak side.
And he is part of that weakness. Thats my point
Terribly unfair to him. Pirlo would look like a time waster if you shove him next to Sylla, KEA or Westwood. I don't see much of an issue with him being called up to the squad to play in a couple of pre-WC friendlies.
Aside from giving the ball away a few times I honestly can't remember KEA doing anything today, which is pretty much a common occurance with him. Westwood was also pretty anonymous.For most of the last 12 months he's regularly been our MOTM, or close to it, so playing against all these top class midfielders who are way better than him doesn't seem to cause him too many problems. Especially when the rest of our midfield is a tad on the weak side.
And he is part of that weakness. Thats my point
He can't do it all on his own. He's virtually playing on his own in MF at times.
You put a couple of half decent midfielders next to Delph, you'd never hear anyone ask for Milner to come back.
Milner is and was a much better player. Haven't heard anyone bidding 26m for Delph. Id love to have them both
You put a couple of half decent midfielders next to Delph, you'd never hear anyone ask for Milner to come back.
Milner is and was a much better player. Haven't heard anyone bidding 26m for Delph. Id love to have them both
Milner wasn't doing the work of two, sometimes three players.
You put a couple of half decent midfielders next to Delph, you'd never hear anyone ask for Milner to come back.
Milner is and was a much better player. Haven't heard anyone bidding 26m for Delph. Id love to have them both
Milner wasn't doing the work of two, sometimes three players.
but you agree Milner is the much better player?
KEA reminds me of Petrov......but only in the fact he is normally knackered after 60 mins.
You put a couple of half decent midfielders next to Delph, you'd never hear anyone ask for Milner to come back.
Milner is and was a much better player. Haven't heard anyone bidding 26m for Delph. Id love to have them both
Milner wasn't doing the work of two, sometimes three players.
but you agree Milner is the much better player?
he needs to weigh in with a few tap ins too suggesting he is making those late runs into the box. It's fantastic that he scores stunning goals which is nice to have in the bag, but he needs to add a threat of scoring mundane goals also.Hopefully his confidence to make that sort of run to 'pick up the pieces' and score tap ins will increase with the sort of goal he scored last night....did he enjoy it or what!
he needs to weigh in with a few tap ins too suggesting he is making those late runs into the box. It's fantastic that he scores stunning goals which is nice to have in the bag, but he needs to add a threat of scoring mundane goals also.Hopefully his confidence to make that sort of run to 'pick up the pieces' and score tap ins will increase with the sort of goal he scored last night....did he enjoy it or what!
Personally I don't there is any chance that we won't be offering him a new deal in the next few months. It's exactly what we have done with all of our other young players. Delph has indicated he wants to stay and his performances have been superb.I'd guess that the main difference is the circumstances. With Delph pretty much the only one left from the O'Neill era I'd bet he's on a pretty healthy contract already. Somebody suggested that Delph is the highest earner currently in the squad and even Benteke's new contract isn't as much as Delph is on.
I think he's pretty loyal to us to be honest, not sure why I think that but I just believe it. If we offer him a decent new deal I think he'll sign.People said the same about Milner.
Can't see anyone above us coming in for him apart from maybe Newcastle.I don't see why not. I wouldn't want to swap him for Cleverley, Henderson, Fletcher, Mikel, Barry or McCarthy (all of whom start regularly for clubs above us) so I daresay people at those clubs might consider him an upgrade as well.
Personally I don't there is any chance that we won't be offering him a new deal in the next few months. It's exactly what we have done with all of our other young players. Delph has indicated he wants to stay and his performances have been superb.I'd guess that the main difference is the circumstances. With Delph pretty much the only one left from the O'Neill era I'd bet he's on a pretty healthy contract already. Somebody suggested that Delph is the highest earner currently in the squad and even Benteke's new contract isn't as much as Delph is on.
Hopefully the money people decide that he is worth keeping on his decent whack but I don't think it'll be the same as moving Lowton and Westwood from £7k per week to £15k per week.
If his new contract offer is in line with what the rest of the squad is earning then it wouldn't surprise me if somebody like Spurs or ManYoo thought that he might be worth throwing £40k per week at.
Delph plays under the radar for some Reason, he doesn't get mentioned or talked about much,
Thank goodness
He's the only really good midfield player we have, if he started getting the recognition he deserves especially in the England set up, it would only be a matter of time before a club with some money came in for him
If we could put a couple of decent midfielders next to him, fuck me we would have a good side
If he was to leave, it would be devastating
Last 2 Weimann hass been much more like his old self in all fairness to him. I was giving him a lot of stick!
Delph we have to keep. He said earlier this season he would sign for life or something to that effect. Give him the deal. Would cost 15m plus to replace. I love his control of a ball. It was epitomised by the way he brought down the ball last season, in the 90th minute that allowed Westwood to play the pass of the season for us to get the winner for Gabby. No one else would have killed that ball for Westwood like Delph did. With confidence I could see him getting 10 plus goals a season, and I would be sorely tempted at home to actually try him in that number 10 role behind Gabby and Benteke.
Forget about England, that will only turn his head, he hasn't signed a new contract has he? He only has 12 months left in the summer.
Forget about England, that will only turn his head, he hasn't signed a new contract has he? He only has 12 months left in the summer.
like the manager, he'll be offered a new deal in the summer. If nothing else, we have proven since Lambert arrived that we look after our own.
If the likes of Tom Cleverley can get in the England squad, then there's no way Delph shouldn't be there.
Forget about England, that will only turn his head, he hasn't signed a new contract has he? He only has 12 months left in the summer.
Forget about England, that will only turn his head, he hasn't signed a new contract has he? He only has 12 months left in the summer.
like the manager, he'll be offered a new deal in the summer. If nothing else, we have proven since Lambert arrived that we look after our own.
I don't think it has anything to do with looking after our own, more like hoping he decides to stay, he will surely have plenty of suitors.
If the likes of Tom Cleverley can get in the England squad, then there's no way Delph shouldn't be there.
He should be on the plane. Hodgson doesn't like the Villa though and won't pick any of our lot.
If the likes of Tom Cleverley can get in the England squad, then there's no way Delph shouldn't be there.
He should be on the plane. Hodgson doesn't like the Villa though and won't pick any of our lot.
If the likes of Tom Cleverley can get in the England squad, then there's no way Delph shouldn't be there.
He should be on the plane. Hodgson doesn't like the Villa though and won't pick any of our lot.
Correct. happily he will be out of a job after the summer so Delph will get his chance with a better England manager
If the likes of Tom Cleverley can get in the England squad, then there's no way Delph shouldn't be there.
He should be on the plane. Hodgson doesn't like the Villa though and won't pick any of our lot.
Correct. happily he will be out of a job after the summer so Delph will get his chance with a better England manager
Who?
Harry?
If the likes of Tom Cleverley can get in the England squad, then there's no way Delph shouldn't be there.
He should be on the plane. Hodgson doesn't like the Villa though and won't pick any of our lot.
Correct. happily he will be out of a job after the summer so Delph will get his chance with a better England manager
Who?
Harry?
I have no idea. Hodgson has one redeeming feature, he pissed off the press when he was picked ahead of Harry. That feature has worn a but thin now and assuming England have a bad world cup (that is my assumption) he will be replaced. That is an opportunity for Villa players, Hodgson does not like Aston Villa, I cant even remember the last time he came to villa park to see the team play.
Delph is adding goals to his game now. There's more end product now. He's got to be knocking pretty loudly on the England door now. West Brom connections or not, Hodgson can't ignore him too much longer.
I don't think there's anything to the Albion thing really, though I do believe Hodgson certainly has his favourite clubs to pick from.Delph is adding goals to his game now. There's more end product now. He's got to be knocking pretty loudly on the England door now. West Brom connections or not, Hodgson can't ignore him too much longer.
Tom - Albion are irrelevant - if Delph has a great final 10 games, steers clear of injury, he has every chance of being included. One of the others will be injured. He has to make it his though.
If the likes of Tom Cleverley can get in the England squad, then there's no way Delph shouldn't be there.
He should be on the plane. Hodgson doesn't like the Villa though and won't pick any of our lot.
Correct. happily he will be out of a job after the summer so Delph will get his chance with a better England manager
Who?
Harry?
I have no idea. Hodgson has one redeeming feature, he pissed off the press when he was picked ahead of Harry. That feature has worn a but thin now and assuming England have a bad world cup (that is my assumption) he will be replaced. That is an opportunity for Villa players, Hodgson does not like Aston Villa, I cant even remember the last time he came to villa park to see the team play.
Great. When and where has he stated he doesn't like Aston Villa or our ground?
Which Villa players currently merit a place in his sqaud? And who is being excluded due to his dislike of Villa?
And who will his replacement be? And which Villa players currently will be included in the England sqaud when this mythical Villa liking (or rather non hating Villa) England coach takes over? Guzan, Vlaar, Benteke?
Never mind Cleverley, I still don't get the Jordan Henderson love in either. He's ok, but that's about it.
I remember Del Piero and Giggs both scoring like that, but they were both about 2 yards out, has anyone ever scored like that from further away?
Never mind Cleverley, I still don't get the Jordan Henderson love in either. He's ok, but that's about it.If Henderson was still at Sunderland I don't think he'd be playing for England.
Please, let's not tout any of our players for England.
He's not good enough yet in any event.
Honestly, just give him a 10 year deal now. I love watching him play.
Honestly, just give him a 10 year deal now. I love watching him play.
That's not the most ridiculous suggestion. Get him signed up.
Oh, and Lambert should sign Delph up to a new contract and build the new Aston Villa around him, because he's superb.
I think Hodgson's already got his 23 sorted. The only way Delph would be in it is if there's a new kind of virus that debilitates average midfielders that play in red.
Four central midfielders in the squad are likely to be Gerrard, Lampard, Carrick and Wilshere if he's fit. My issue with that selection is that there is no athleticism or energy, especially if Wilshere is injured. Delph would offer that, but I just can't see him being given an opportunity.Jordan Henderson would offer than energy. And he has had a fantastic season.
There's five or six who are far ahead of him, IMO.
There's five or six who are far ahead of him, IMO.
"Far" Really? Who are these 5 or 6?
Yep. Carricks time has passed. After this wc, he and Lampard will be done and dusted probably. Gerrard will stay on. Cleverely is indeed overrated and has no place being there.There's five or six who are far ahead of him, IMO.
"Far" Really? Who are these 5 or 6?
Agree, people like Carrick & Cleverly are shite playing in a failing Manure midfield...
In the current context of the England squad he's plenty ready.
From what I've seen recently, I'd definitely have Lallana and Chamberlain in the England MF, with Gerrard as the holding MF. Rooney as the attacking MF might make the MF, supporting Sturridge and Rodriguez.In the current context of the England squad he's plenty ready.
Indeed. Delph (and Gabby for that matter) is just as good right now as most of the England Squad regulars in their spots. In my opinion gerrard is probably the only one obviously ahead of the pack in the England midfield setup. The rest are about Delph level.
I think Hodgson's already got his 23 sorted. The only way Delph would be in it is if there's a new kind of virus that debilitates average midfielders that play in red.
Four central midfielders in the squad are likely to be Gerrard, Lampard, Carrick and Wilshere if he's fit. My issue with that selection is that there is no athleticism or energy, especially if Wilshere is injured. Delph would offer that, but I just can't see him being given an opportunity.
I'd be amazed if Carrick isn't in the squad.I think Hodgson's already got his 23 sorted. The only way Delph would be in it is if there's a new kind of virus that debilitates average midfielders that play in red.
Four central midfielders in the squad are likely to be Gerrard, Lampard, Carrick and Wilshere if he's fit. My issue with that selection is that there is no athleticism or energy, especially if Wilshere is injured. Delph would offer that, but I just can't see him being given an opportunity.
Carrick and Lamparrd won't go. Nor should they.
He's looking a lot less "high-trouser, legs akimbo" then he used to as well. He's looking a lot more gazelle then newborn deer in any case.
Wilshere??? Really??? File under overrated and believes his own hype. Made out of papier mache as well
Wilshere??? Really??? File under overrated and believes his own hype. Made out of papier mache as well
Agree completely with all that.Wilshere??? Really??? File under overrated and believes his own hype. Made out of papier mache as well
I think Wilshere is highly overrated and he's a complete knob but he has been very good at times this year and, like Delph, he has a knack of getting himself out of corners and keeping the game moving, I think him and delph either side of Gerrard with Lallana and Rooney playing ahead of them and Sturridge up front is the strongest side we could put out right now, With Barry as cover for Gerrard and Henderson offering a bit more physique (in place of Wilshere) in games where we need a bit more battle.
Wilshere??? Really??? File under overrated and believes his own hype. Made out of papier mache as well
I have to agree - and can you imagine what the fuss on the back pages would be like if Wilshere ever turned in a performance (and goal) like Delph's from the weekend?
No wonder the media are finding it hard to credit Delph with 'meaning' to score his wonder goal, not many players have the intelligence to 'mean' such a thing. Delph does, and a cracking sense of humour too. In the Mail, he's asked whether Chelsea's sending offs were justified. His answer: "If it looks like a duck and quacks, it usually is a duck."
I think Hodgson has said a couple of times now that the squad will be formed from the players he has been using?
I think Hodgson has said a couple of times now that the squad will be formed from the players he has been using?
Can't wait.
If I was Hodgson I'd be on bended knee praying that 3 or 4 young English players would start showing the form of their lives. Delph being one of them.
No wonder the media are finding it hard to credit Delph with 'meaning' to score his wonder goal, not many players have the intelligence to 'mean' such a thing. Delph does, and a cracking sense of humour too. In the Mail, he's asked whether Chelsea's sending offs were justified. His answer: "If it looks like a duck and quacks, it usually is a duck."
he's got a brilliant dead pan sense of humour. He's very honest as well about himself which is very refreshing.
Was it also MON who converted Barry to centre midfield?
Was it also MON who converted Barry to centre midfield?I think O'Leary tried it for one game but gave up on that experiment very quickly.
Was it also MON who converted Barry to centre midfield?I think O'Leary tried it for one game but gave up on that experiment very quickly.
Was it also MON who converted Barry to centre midfield?
No, I think Gregory played him there on his debut.
I suppose we'll have to give him some credit in that account.
If I've remembered rightly, in addition to Delph he signed
Milner
Petrov
Young
Downing (although not great, he was very good in Houlier's season and we made a healthy profit thanks to KKK)
Was it also MON who converted Barry to centre midfield?
Was it also MON who converted Barry to centre midfield?
No, I think Gregory played him there on his debut.
I'm pretty sure Barry's home debut was as one of a back 3 against Arsenal where he had Ian Wright in his pocket for 94 minutes. After that there was much too-ing and fro-ing between centre back, left back and left midfield.
I suppose we'll have to give him some credit in that account.
If I've remembered rightly, in addition to Delph he signed
Milner
Petrov
Young
Downing (although not great, he was very good in Houlier's season and we made a healthy profit thanks to KKK)
Was it also MON who converted Barry to centre midfield?
And "Big" John Carew
A big AVFC pat on the back for Martin O'Neill.
That man knows a great midfielder when he sees one.
No?
Was it also MON who converted Barry to centre midfield?
No, I think Gregory played him there on his debut.
I'm pretty sure Barry's home debut was as one of a back 3 against Arsenal where he had Ian Wright in his pocket for 94 minutes. After that there was much too-ing and fro-ing between centre back, left back and left midfield.
I've always had it in my head that Barry's debut was away at Sheffield Wednesday but I might be totally wrong.
Anyway back on topic - will he ever score a boring goal?I think his first was from about six inches out in a routine League Cup win against Tranmere.
Was it also MON who converted Barry to centre midfield?
No, I think Gregory played him there on his debut.
I'm pretty sure Barry's home debut was as one of a back 3 against Arsenal where he had Ian Wright in his pocket for 94 minutes. After that there was much too-ing and fro-ing between centre back, left back and left midfield.
I've always had it in my head that Barry's debut was away at Sheffield Wednesday but I might be totally wrong.
Was it also MON who converted Barry to centre midfield?
No, I think Gregory played him there on his debut.
I'm pretty sure Barry's home debut was as one of a back 3 against Arsenal where he had Ian Wright in his pocket for 94 minutes. After that there was much too-ing and fro-ing between centre back, left back and left midfield.
I've always had it in my head that Barry's debut was away at Sheffield Wednesday but I might be totally wrong.
I think you're right. He'd played there the week before. I wasn't there so couldn't say where he played that day. I remember thinking he was a cut above that day on his home debut. (Mind you I'd said the same about Ricacrdo Scimeca a few years previously, so my opinion usually counts for diddly squat where players abilities are concerned)
Anyway back on topic - will he ever score a boring goal?
I scared 5 kids, 1 dog and my wifes friend who was visiting when that went in. A huge roar of "get the fuck in" followed by running round the kitchen like a lunatic with a "have that you chavvy cockney gits" whilst they're in the lounge trying to watch some go awful kids version of Eurovision song contest they do over here.
Mrs ViD not HP. Then she saw the gaol on replay and quite calmly said "OK fair enough" :D)
Was it also MON who converted Barry to centre midfield?
No, I think Gregory played him there on his debut.
I'm pretty sure Barry's home debut was as one of a back 3 against Arsenal where he had Ian Wright in his pocket for 94 minutes. After that there was much too-ing and fro-ing between centre back, left back and left midfield.
I've always had it in my head that Barry's debut was away at Sheffield Wednesday but I might be totally wrong.
It was. Barry then played midfield v arsenal.but dropped into defence when southgate got sent off
I suppose we'll have to give him some credit in that account.
If I've remembered rightly, in addition to Delph he signed
Milner
Petrov
Young
Downing (although not great, he was very good in Houlier's season and we made a healthy profit thanks to KKK)
Was it also MON who converted Barry to centre midfield?
Anyway back on topic - will he ever score a boring goal?I think his first was from about six inches out in a routine League Cup win against Tranmere.
You don't get much more boring than that.
We had a bloke just arrive to pick up a table we had for sale just as Delph flicked it in cue me jumping up and down shouting "f'kin have it you C**TS"!!!!! You can imagine the rest, the missus telling him I'm an Englishman and you know what they're like with their soccer!! lol Brilliant!!
Was it also MON who converted Barry to centre midfield?
No, I think Gregory played him there on his debut.
I'm pretty sure Barry's home debut was as one of a back 3 against Arsenal where he had Ian Wright in his pocket for 94 minutes. After that there was much too-ing and fro-ing between centre back, left back and left midfield.
I've always had it in my head that Barry's debut was away at Sheffield Wednesday but I might be totally wrong.
I think you're right. He'd played there the week before. I wasn't there so couldn't say where he played that day. I remember thinking he was a cut above that day on his home debut. (Mind you I'd said the same about Ricacrdo Scimeca a few years previously, so my opinion usually counts for diddly squat where players abilities are concerned)
Anyway back on topic - will he ever score a boring goal?
I scared 5 kids, 1 dog and my wifes friend who was visiting when that went in. A huge roar of "get the fuck in" followed by running round the kitchen like a lunatic with a "have that you chavvy cockney gits" whilst they're in the lounge trying to watch some go awful kids version of Eurovision song contest they do over here.
Mrs ViD not HP. Then she saw the gaol on replay and quite calmly said "OK fair enough" :D)
My little one cried in fear as my old man and I celebrated round the lounge. Their dog scarpered quick time too. It was such a great moment. Such a great goal from Westwood picking the pocket of Ramirez to Delph dancing round the much vaunted Matic and then that finish. Get in.
Anyway back on topic - will he ever score a boring goal?I think his first was from about six inches out in a routine League Cup win against Tranmere.
You don't get much more boring than that.
He scored against Brighton first. Can't remember which one that was. I always thought he had scored in a cup game for us early in his career where he picked it up from the halfway line and went past several players in that clumsy gait of his but he must have missed / been saved as the Brighton match doesn't have that description.
I think Gregory came out and said that though Barry had the footballing ability to play midfield, he didn't think he had the physical attributes or pace, or something to that effect. He might have given him the odd game there, but I think he saw GB as a defender predominently, at least at Barry's age whilst Gregory was in charge.
Taylor put him left mid.
Then MON was the one that felt his best position was CM.
That's right - I've just checked, and although I can't remember the Delph goal from reading the match report I can remember:Anyway back on topic - will he ever score a boring goal?I think his first was from about six inches out in a routine League Cup win against Tranmere.
You don't get much more boring than that.
He scored against Brighton first. Can't remember which one that was. I always thought he had scored in a cup game for us early in his career where he picked it up from the halfway line and went past several players in that clumsy gait of his but he must have missed / been saved as the Brighton match doesn't have that description.
Brighton at home in front of The Holte in the FA Cup. Close range, although I can't remember the build up.
Delfouneso hit the post with a rasping effort at the end of a fine individual 30-yard run as Villa looked, in vain, to add the fourth.
Anyway back on topic - will he ever score a boring goal?I think his first was from about six inches out in a routine League Cup win against Tranmere.
You don't get much more boring than that.
He scored against Brighton first. Can't remember which one that was. I always thought he had scored in a cup game for us early in his career where he picked it up from the halfway line and went past several players in that clumsy gait of his but he must have missed / been saved as the Brighton match doesn't have that description.
Brighton at home in front of The Holte in the FA Cup. Close range, although I can't remember the build up.
That's right - I've just checked, and although I can't remember the Delph goal from reading the match report I can remember:QuoteDelfouneso hit the post with a rasping effort at the end of a fine individual 30-yard run as Villa looked, in vain, to add the fourth.
It was when Delfouneso did that I was completely sure that he was going to be brilliant for us.
*sigh*
The goal Delph finished against Rotherham this season was one of the best team goals I've seen us score in a very long time.
The goal Delph finished against Rotherham this season was one of the best team goals I've seen us score in a very long time.
it was but try and find footage of the whole thing anywhere. It's like we needed Zapruda sat in the upper Doug to document it because trying to find any other convincing evidence of it is practically impossible unless you were actually there.
The goal Delph finished against Rotherham this season was one of the best team goals I've seen us score in a very long time.
it was but try and find footage of the whole thing anywhere. It's like we needed Zapruda sat in the upper Doug to document it because trying to find any other convincing evidence of it is practically impossible unless you were actually there.
I know. I saw it on SSN that evening but it seems to have disappeared since, except for the odd one or two clips that don't show the full move. It's also difficult to find clips showing the entire (25 or so passes) move for Weimann's goal at Anfield last year, too.
The goal Delph finished against Rotherham this season was one of the best team goals I've seen us score in a very long time.
it was but try and find footage of the whole thing anywhere. It's like we needed Zapruda sat in the upper Doug to document it because trying to find any other convincing evidence of it is practically impossible unless you were actually there.
The goal Delph finished against Rotherham this season was one of the best team goals I've seen us score in a very long time.
it was but try and find footage of the whole thing anywhere. It's like we needed Zapruda sat in the upper Doug to document it because trying to find any other convincing evidence of it is practically impossible unless you were actually there.
I know. I saw it on SSN that evening but it seems to have disappeared since, except for the odd one or two clips that don't show the full move. It's also difficult to find clips showing the entire (25 or so passes) move for Weimann's goal at Anfield last year, too.
the CIA refer to it as Plausible Deniability. I imagine in about 25 years the British government will release footage of both events along a number of other state secrets in a Commons paper that nobody will read. Also revealed a flashing light in the sky near Cornwall, a mysterious footprint in Sutton Park and an apology for Piers Morgan.
Adam Johnson dropping some truth bombs.
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/mar/19/adam-johnson-england-down-to-who-you-play-for
"All my caps came when I was at City. Sometimes I got picked when I wasn't playing. Now I'm playing more and I can't get a cap. It's just a fact. It's not me being sour. Some of the players, if they weren't playing for the big clubs, wouldn't be anywhere near it [the squad].
And Ross Barkley looked poor when in our two games against the Toffees, he was up against Delph which ended up with Barkley being subbed in both games. Yet again another youngster who is over hyped and picked for England.
That he is 4 years younger may be part of the reason. If Delph was 20 and playing like he is he'd get a lot more press I reckon.
Southampton are a fashionable club to praise so a few of their players are perhaps more certain to get in than they should be.Which of the players who are currently being considered from Southampton do you think shouldn't be going and who would you be taking in their place?
I still have no idea what you are talking about.
So, do we know how long he is off for? I would have expected a minimum of a draw with him in Midfield Saturday and I can't be arsed to read the Post Match thread for news inside all the sack the board, sack the manager, keep the manager, not good enough for the shirt type posts.
Delph had a sore achilles on Saturday morning and a decision was taken not to risk him.
We did indeed.
More important to us than Benteke.
Is probably seriously considering his options.
Is probably seriously considering his options.
Indeed. Whoever is in charge over the Summer the fact of Delph staying or leaving will be an important indicator of Villa's ambition.
Delph leaving would be the biggest pisstake by a player since hamster bollocks and I would hope he was treated by us in the same way.
Best of a very bad bunch. I am only wanting him to stay because he is better than the rest of the shit we have. Also, I disagree with others, Delph is not getting into a top six team. It shows how very poor we are that we are "desperate" to keep him. If we had better players, Fabian would go back to being a squad player. IMO.
We need to keep him, because he's the only midfielder we have who has real class about him.
Delph's reverted to type for me these last few months. Far too many games where he's gone AWOL after his initial promising burst of form
Delph's reverted to type for me these last few months. Far too many games where he's gone AWOL after his initial promising burst of form
Probably tired from carrying the midfield, chasing he ball around for 30 games and having no options now Benteke is out. He's a good player in a shit team. Not good enough to carry a team though.
He does need to be given the space and time to get into more goalscoring positions: he was a free-scoring MF at Leeds and has an eye for goal.
For this to happen requires better quality alongside him.
We need to keep him, because he's the only midfielder we have who has real class about him.
On and off the pitch.
I think he's been pretty good all year to be fair, I don't think he's slumped. We need to sign him up to a new contract asap.
I have some Leeds friends who said as much about him as you say TV. He was very highly thought of.
Delph's reverted to type for me these last few months. Far too many games where he's gone AWOL after his initial promising burst of form
Probably tired from carrying the midfield, chasing he ball around for 30 games and having no options now Benteke is out. He's a good player in a shit team. Not good enough to carry a team though.
If we have the money in the summer I'd love to see us re-sign Milner. I think he and Delph in the centre with a good playmaker just ahead of them would make for a top class midfield. Without doubt though, we've got to get Delph on a long contract.
Think citeh will be going for mega signings so can't see this happening.They need to sign homegrown players
'All 20 Clubs must include eight Homegrown players out of a squad of 25 for that Premier League season,' read the Premier League's own rulebook. 'A Home Grown player will be defined as one who, irrespective of his nationality or age, has been registered with any club affiliated to the Football Association or the Football Association of Wales for a period, continuous or not, of three entire seasons or 36 months prior to his 21st birthday (or the end of the season during which he turns 21).'
They are official words to send shivers through Manchester City's hierarchy. Let's run through City's eight homegrown players from last season: Dedryck Boyata (left), Gael Clichy, John Guidetti (left), Joe Hart, Frank Lampard (left), James Milner (left), Scott Sinclair (left) and Richard Wright. And then there were three (and one of them was Richard Wright).
Man city sniffing.....release clause??Let's hope the figure is high enough to put them off
Delphi is going nowhere for the next couple of seasons at least.
He is playing regular football, has the armband and is a settled England player.
If he has another great season for us, I would bump his wages to keep him happy.
Think citeh will be going for mega signings so can't see this happening.They need to sign homegrown playersQuote'All 20 Clubs must include eight Homegrown players out of a squad of 25 for that Premier League season,' read the Premier League's own rulebook. 'A Home Grown player will be defined as one who, irrespective of his nationality or age, has been registered with any club affiliated to the Football Association or the Football Association of Wales for a period, continuous or not, of three entire seasons or 36 months prior to his 21st birthday (or the end of the season during which he turns 21).'
They are official words to send shivers through Manchester City's hierarchy. Let's run through City's eight homegrown players from last season: Dedryck Boyata (left), Gael Clichy, John Guidetti (left), Joe Hart, Frank Lampard (left), James Milner (left), Scott Sinclair (left) and Richard Wright. And then there were three (and one of them was Richard Wright).
So between their academy and transfer dealings they need to come up with five homegrown players for their first-team squad next season. I can't think how they are going to make both "mega signings" and come up with the homegrown players that they need to have.
Delphi is going nowhere for the next couple of seasons at least.
He is playing regular football, has the armband and is a settled England player.
If he has another great season for us, I would bump his wages to keep him happy.
Delphi is going nowhere for the next couple of seasons at least.
He is playing regular football, has the armband and is a settled England player.
If he has another great season for us, I would bump his wages to keep him happy.
You don't need to give a player a pay rise everytime he does well. I imagine he would be happy to see us signing quality players and feeling that we're progressing upwardly.
Delphi is going nowhere for the next couple of seasons at least.
He is playing regular football, has the armband and is a settled England player.
If he has another great season for us, I would bump his wages to keep him happy.
You don't need to give a player a pay rise everytime he does well. I imagine he would be happy to see us signing quality players and feeling that we're progressing upwardly.
That really depends, put yourself in Delphs position.
He has showed his loyalty, new 4 year contract when plenty of teams would have taken him.
Let's say he is on 60,000 a week, Micah comes in on the same or more, Tekkers is given more to stay, we grab Austin and offer him 65,000....
All I'm saying is, the captain of the team who mostly always puts a shift in, shows loyalty, deserves to be a top earner and out of everybody, should be given incentives to stay at villa park.
Whereas you have Tekkers who seems to be looking for a way out to bigger and better things, which I can understand.
But if no one is to buy Him, he may take another contract with us on even more money to keep him happy at VP for another season.
I just feel incentives should also be for loyal players who commit rather than look at us as a stepping stone.
I don't actually think he's good enough for them anyway, he's a player that would, in my view, keep you top 4 but would not be in a PL winning sideBrave assertion. I actually think that he'd get better and better in a side like Citeh ... but I don't think we'll be finding out anytime soon.
No chance he'll end up at City. I know they need to make quotas but they shouldn't be allowed to poach players that they only intend to keep in the matchday squad, just to make up numbers.
I think they'd be more likely to spunk some money at a player like Wilshere. Someone who would impress the fans a little more, whilst simultaneously unsettling a rival club.
And Delph is sensible. Does he really want to go there to play League Cup football and make the odd 10 minute cameo in the league? Right before the Euro's? Absolutely not. Delph's first touch and passing aren't good enough for top 4.
You'd think with all City's dosh though, they'd have one of the best academies and 2-3 top youngster they could bring into the squad.
Phil, as much as i hates to say it, that`s irrelevant, that contract is, as in most other cases, just a bargaining point between Buyer/Seller clubs.Delphi is going nowhere for the next couple of seasons at least.
He is playing regular football, has the armband and is a settled England player.
If he has another great season for us, I would bump his wages to keep him happy.
On the basis that he's just signed a new 4 year deal, I see that being unlikely
Phil, as much as i hates to say it, that`s irrelevant, that contract is, as in most other cases, just a bargaining point between Buyer/Seller clubs.Delphi is going nowhere for the next couple of seasons at least.
He is playing regular football, has the armband and is a settled England player.
If he has another great season for us, I would bump his wages to keep him happy.
On the basis that he's just signed a new 4 year deal, I see that being unlikely
Rumours of a 12 million bid for Delph from Liverpool. The silly season really is in full swing
The rumour is £12m plus borini plus Ibe on loan. Jonny Gould is saying sherwood would do that deal but it looks unlikely.
Would be a bloody terrible deal tho!!
I'm sorry but that would be the worst deal ever. If Sherwood was prepared to sanction that he should be sacked.
I think £12m is a perfectly fair price for him compared to what some players have gone for.I was almost had by the subtle sarcasm in your post....very good!
Does this Gould fella need followers?
I think £12m is a perfectly fair price for him compared to what some players have gone for.I was almost had by the subtle sarcasm in your post....very good!
It's less to do with what he is worth and the point at which it becomes worth our while to accept a bid.I think £12m is a perfectly fair price for him compared to what some players have gone for.I was almost had by the subtle sarcasm in your post....very good!
How much would you say he's worth then?
It's less to do with what he is worth and the point at which it becomes worth our while to accept a bid.I think £12m is a perfectly fair price for him compared to what some players have gone for.I was almost had by the subtle sarcasm in your post....very good!
How much would you say he's worth then?
When you see players who play in a similar position such as Fernando, Henderson, Paulinho, Dembele, McCarthy etc all moving for between £15-£20m I think we would need to be looking at that sort of figure.
It's less to do with what he is worth and the point at which it becomes worth our while to accept a bid.I think £12m is a perfectly fair price for him compared to what some players have gone for.I was almost had by the subtle sarcasm in your post....very good!
How much would you say he's worth then?
When you see players who play in a similar position such as Fernando, Henderson, Paulinho, Dembele, McCarthy etc all moving for between £15-£20m I think we would need to be looking at that sort of figure.
I was referring to KRS's post originally last night who said that he wasn't worth that much (because he often cuts inside and shoots wide) and I said £12m was a fair enough price. I'm was'nt saying he was only worth £12m, he should fetch more than that. I think lines got crossed somewhere.
paul-e gets the correct answer. 10 points and a cookie.It's less to do with what he is worth and the point at which it becomes worth our while to accept a bid.I think £12m is a perfectly fair price for him compared to what some players have gone for.I was almost had by the subtle sarcasm in your post....very good!
How much would you say he's worth then?
When you see players who play in a similar position such as Fernando, Henderson, Paulinho, Dembele, McCarthy etc all moving for between £15-£20m I think we would need to be looking at that sort of figure.
I was referring to KRS's post originally last night who said that he wasn't worth that much (because he often cuts inside and shoots wide) and I said £12m was a fair enough price. I'm was'nt saying he was only worth £12m, he should fetch more than that. I think lines got crossed somewhere.
I'm fairly sure that post existed only to take the piss out of the valuation of Andros Townsend
£12m for his left foot, what about the right? If they think Sterling is worth £50m then they need to think on.
I'm going to treat this rumour with the contempt it deserves
£12m for his left foot, what about the right? If they think Sterling is worth £50m then they need to think on.
I'm going to treat this rumour with the contempt it deserves
Unless Delph has hinted to Sherwood he wants out.
Sherwood isn't about to sell the player he made captain only a months ago for a paltry £12m. A market that somehow valued Adam Lallana last summer at £25m and amazingly this summer Raheem Sterling in excess of £40m. Where does this nonsense come from?
True or not we could really do without this.
Staying at Villa is the only way he gets week-in/week-out footballHe probably wouldn't get into the starting XIs of any of last year's top four.
Also, if it is true and he leaves for that cheap, Tom Fox should quit.
Seems to be too of it in the press for it to be rubbish though.
My feeling is that Delph wants to leave and something in the last few weeks has changed to make him decide that.
Also, if it is true and he leaves for that cheap, Tom Fox should quit.
Or deserves a medal, as 10m is 10m more than we would have been getting if he had not signed.
No-one has said he's leaving though. A journalist who has a track record for getting thing's wrong has revealed something in his paper that also has a track record for getting things wrong.
Seems to be too of it in the press for it to be rubbish though.
My feeling is that Delph wants to leave and something in the last few weeks has changed to make him decide that.
Would we miss him if he was replaced ? Hardly set B6 alight
The club has given me a great platform to perform and a great opportunity to showcase what I can do," he said.
"The fans have been great with me, the chairman has been absolutely fantastic with me and I have a great relationship with the manager and I see the boys here as my brothers, my family and I am delighted to stay here.
"I am a loyal person and committing my future will hopefully show everybody what type of guy I am.
"I feel like this is me - I love the club, I love being here and I want to put 100 per cent into everything I do here. This is my club and I want to be here. That's why I am committing my future.
"Hopefully it will give everyone a bit of a lift and show the fans that we are looking to do big things here and bring excitement back to the club.
"We want to get through this season, do well and I feel the up-and-coming years will be big.
"There was no way I was going to bail out. I am here for the long run.
"The fans have been the same. I am sure they will stick with us, help us get through this season and then looking into the future, it looks promising to me."
Delph January 25th. I can't see that emphatic a statement being turned round in 6 months.
Would we miss him if he was replaced ? Hardly set B6 alightI assume that if he were to leave then you would use it as further evidence that the sky were about to fall on our heads.
Man city sniffing.....release clause??Let's hope the figure is high enough to put them off
Would we miss him if he was replaced ? Hardly set B6 alight
There is nothing contradictory about that. Yes he's our best midfielder , but that's not saying much.Man city sniffing.....release clause??Let's hope the figure is high enough to put them off
A few days later........Would we miss him if he was replaced ? Hardly set B6 alight
There is nothing contradictory about that. Yes he's our best midfielder , but that's not saying much.Man city sniffing.....release clause??Let's hope the figure is high enough to put them off
A few days later........Would we miss him if he was replaced ? Hardly set B6 alight
Our whole club needs a "re-set" if that involves Delph going and money coming in for a repar , I'm not losing too much sleep.
Not at all . How many goals did he score in PL last season ? How many assists ? It's a shame if someone set the release clause at £10m but then again we weren't exactly in a strong position at the time , in part thanks to his own contribution.
The club has given me a great platform to perform and a great opportunity to showcase what I can do," he said.
"The fans have been great with me, the chairman has been absolutely fantastic with me and I have a great relationship with the manager and I see the boys here as my brothers, my family and I am delighted to stay here.
"I am a loyal person and committing my future will hopefully show everybody what type of guy I am.
"I feel like this is me - I love the club, I love being here and I want to put 100 per cent into everything I do here. This is my club and I want to be here. That's why I am committing my future.
"Hopefully it will give everyone a bit of a lift and show the fans that we are looking to do big things here and bring excitement back to the club.
"We want to get through this season, do well and I feel the up-and-coming years will be big.
"There was no way I was going to bail out. I am here for the long run.
"The fans have been the same. I am sure they will stick with us, help us get through this season and then looking into the future, it looks promising to me."
Delph January 25th. I can't see that emphatic a statement being turned round in 6 months.
and that statement was made after several weeks where there were several "exclusives" of him walking away from the club and refusing to sign a new deal.
Not at all , his whole time here is synonymous with garbage.Not at all . How many goals did he score in PL last season ? How many assists ? It's a shame if someone set the release clause at £10m but then again we weren't exactly in a strong position at the time , in part thanks to his own contribution.
But you said a week ago that you hope clubs are put off by a high price tag. This week you're saying he dosen't score or assist? You're making it up as you go along.
Not at all , his whole time here is synonymous with garbage.Not at all . How many goals did he score in PL last season ? How many assists ? It's a shame if someone set the release clause at £10m but then again we weren't exactly in a strong position at the time , in part thanks to his own contribution.
But you said a week ago that you hope clubs are put off by a high price tag. This week you're saying he dosen't score or assist? You're making it up as you go along.
I won't lose sleep over any of them going with the possible exception of Benteke .
This pertains to a holistic view and our clubs need for a step change.
I will let sherwood decide .This pertains to a holistic view and our clubs need for a step change.
So we sell our best midfielder in order to change?
If he leaves then he's going to look rather stupid after what he said when he signed.
I will let sherwood decide .This pertains to a holistic view and our clubs need for a step change.
So we sell our best midfielder in order to change?
If he leaves then he's going to look rather stupid after what he said when he signed.
True, but he wouldn't be the first player to knife the club in the back. Downing anyone?
I'm not arguing and I'm far from wrong. Maybe you are. It's a debate . A valid one in my opinion . Ultimately my view, is Delph replaceable - Yes .I will let sherwood decide .This pertains to a holistic view and our clubs need for a step change.
So we sell our best midfielder in order to change?
A convenient way to wiggle out of an argument when your wrong eh?
I'm not arguing and I'm far from wrong. Maybe you are. It's a debate . A valid one in my opinion . Ultimately my view, is Delph replaceable - Yes .I will let sherwood decide .This pertains to a holistic view and our clubs need for a step change.
So we sell our best midfielder in order to change?
A convenient way to wiggle out of an argument when your wrong eh?
Is he the man to build a team around ? My view - not sure. Debatable .
How has he done overall as a villa player ? He's done well at villa which is all relative in the grand scheme of things.
Can't question his loyalty can you. A big pay rise and a £10 mil release clause.
If this is true it's no wonder he signed a long contract, it didn't tie him down at all. I reckon it's bull, we wouldn't be so stupid surely?
Can't question his loyalty can you. A big pay rise and a £10 mil release clause.
If this is true it's no wonder he signed a long contract, it didn't tie him down at all. I reckon it's bull, we wouldn't be so stupid surely?
I don't think the story is true. I think it would have come out earlier and there'd have been a mad scramble already
But I don't get why people are saying such a clause means villa would be stupid. If the choice was this or let him leave on a free we'd have been stupid not to do do it
It's the Mirror so I reckon BS , even if true at £10m quite a few clubs would be in sparking a bidding war I'd assume.So after it was patiently explained to you about two weeks ago that there wouldn't be any bidding war for Benteke because that's not how a release clause works, do people really need to do the same all over again?
It's the Mirror so I reckon BS , even if true at £10m quite a few clubs would be in sparking a bidding war I'd assume.
Ultimately my view, is Delph replaceable - Yes .
Can't question his loyalty can you. A big pay rise and a £10 mil release clause.
If this is true it's no wonder he signed a long contract, it didn't tie him down at all. I reckon it's bull, we wouldn't be so stupid surely?
The article calls us 'relegation threatened.' Last time I looked it was 26th June and a ball hasn't been kicked this season yet.
It then goes on to say that Delph has us 'over a barrel' despite there not being the slightest indication he is looking to leave even if there is such a clause in his contract.
Truly p**s poor effort.
Can't question his loyalty can you. A big pay rise and a £10 mil release clause.
If this is true it's no wonder he signed a long contract, it didn't tie him down at all. I reckon it's bull, we wouldn't be so stupid surely?
Of course we'd have to gear down a level and go for the likes of Nzonzi and Will HughesUltimately my view, is Delph replaceable - Yes .
I think there is justification to debate how good Delph is, but I'm struggling with the replaceable bit. Look at his contemporaries in the england midfield - Wilshire, Henderson, Milner, Barkley, Lallana, The Ox - there are debates about whether they are good enough all the time, but could we buy any of them. Not a chance. We could shop abroad but that comes with its own risks and no guarantees that the player would be any better than Delph, especially for 10m.
I'm not arguing and I'm far from wrong. Maybe you are. It's a debate . A valid one in my opinion . Ultimately my view, is Delph replaceable - Yes .I will let sherwood decide .This pertains to a holistic view and our clubs need for a step change.
So we sell our best midfielder in order to change?
A convenient way to wiggle out of an argument when your wrong eh?
Is he the man to build a team around ? My view - not sure. Debatable .
How has he done overall as a villa player ? He's done well at villa which is all relative in the grand scheme of things.
Can't question his loyalty can you. A big pay rise and a £10 mil release clause.
If this is true it's no wonder he signed a long contract, it didn't tie him down at all. I reckon it's bull, we wouldn't be so stupid surely?
Sadly I wouldn't put anything past Lerner and Fox. Lets be realistic here, if anyone offers Delph a big pay rise and a shot at honours, there is no way he can turn down.
All this business about Citeh wanting home grown players. They had two that they could have offered new contracts to. Namely Milner and Richards that they chose to let go.They offered new contracts to both of them.
Can't see that. Isn't Toure on 300k a week !? No way is Milner getting that levelAll this business about Citeh wanting home grown players. They had two that they could have offered new contracts to. Namely Milner and Richards that they chose to let go.They offered new contracts to both of them.
They reportedly offered to make Milner their joint-highest paid player.
This I didn't know. But it emphasises the point about them wanting first team football. Delph would not be guaranteed that a year away from the Euros.He wouldn't be guaranteed it, but who would be keeping him out of the team at Man City?
I'm not worrying about this.
If there really is just a 10 mil clause then it could be a problem somewhere down the line, but I'd be shocked if he went anywhere before next summer.
Can't see that. Isn't Toure on 300k a week !? No way is Milner getting that levelAll this business about Citeh wanting home grown players. They had two that they could have offered new contracts to. Namely Milner and Richards that they chose to let go.They offered new contracts to both of them.
They reportedly offered to make Milner their joint-highest paid player.
Manchester City have offered to make James Milner one of their highest earners in a bid to keep him at the club.
But it increasingly looks like the 29-year-old England star will turn down the package – worth £33million – and quit the Blues when his contract expires next month – with Liverpool favourites to sign him, ahead of Arsenal.
I'm not worrying about this.
If there really is just a 10 mil clause then it could be a problem somewhere down the line, but I'd be shocked if he went anywhere before next summer.
No, nor am I. We're really not going to sell an England Midfielder for £3m less than what Ross McCormack went for.
I'm not worrying about this.
If there really is just a 10 mil clause then it could be a problem somewhere down the line, but I'd be shocked if he went anywhere before next summer.
No, nor am I. We're really not going to sell an England Midfielder for £3m less than what Ross McCormack went for.
Unless he has a release clause that equates to £3m less than what Ross McCormack went for, in which case we'd have no choice.
I just don't see it, Delph would make himself look a real twat if he left now after all the fanfare surrounding the new contract.Yes quite. I do believe a fee of 10 is there but only if we were relegated. In that case no one would have argued or ridiculed his "stand by them' comment.
I know the cynics will accept it as part of the game but he made a point of standing against that attitude, saying the clubs stood by him and now it was time for him to stand by them.
look at it this way, without a take over we could have 50m plus to spend through the sales of Weimann, Sylla, Benteke and Delph. Used wisely - and that's the biggest variable - we could end up with a better side than we have now. Other clubs have gone through similar upheaval and change(Southampton for example) and have emerged more competitive. It might not be all doom and gloom, life goes on long after our current favourites have left, even though at the time, they appear irreplaceable.
This I didn't know. But it emphasises the point about them wanting first team football. Delph would not be guaranteed that a year away from the Euros.He wouldn't be guaranteed it, but who would be keeping him out of the team at Man City?
Fernando played 29 games last season, Lampard played 38 games, Milner played 45 games. Two of them have left and would anybody pick Fernando in midfield over Delph?
Particularly with rumours about Touré leaving as well, I think he'd fancy himself to play plenty of matches if he did go there.
Yup, a fair point.This I didn't know. But it emphasises the point about them wanting first team football. Delph would not be guaranteed that a year away from the Euros.He wouldn't be guaranteed it, but who would be keeping him out of the team at Man City?
Fernando played 29 games last season, Lampard played 38 games, Milner played 45 games. Two of them have left and would anybody pick Fernando in midfield over Delph?
Particularly with rumours about Touré leaving as well, I think he'd fancy himself to play plenty of matches if he did go there.
I can see the point. However, based on that logic then there would've been a good chance Milner would've been a regular starter and he didn't see fit to stay even with all the money they were offering
Yup, a fair point.This I didn't know. But it emphasises the point about them wanting first team football. Delph would not be guaranteed that a year away from the Euros.He wouldn't be guaranteed it, but who would be keeping him out of the team at Man City?
Fernando played 29 games last season, Lampard played 38 games, Milner played 45 games. Two of them have left and would anybody pick Fernando in midfield over Delph?
Particularly with rumours about Touré leaving as well, I think he'd fancy himself to play plenty of matches if he did go there.
I can see the point. However, based on that logic then there would've been a good chance Milner would've been a regular starter and he didn't see fit to stay even with all the money they were offering
Yup, a fair point.This I didn't know. But it emphasises the point about them wanting first team football. Delph would not be guaranteed that a year away from the Euros.He wouldn't be guaranteed it, but who would be keeping him out of the team at Man City?
Fernando played 29 games last season, Lampard played 38 games, Milner played 45 games. Two of them have left and would anybody pick Fernando in midfield over Delph?
Particularly with rumours about Touré leaving as well, I think he'd fancy himself to play plenty of matches if he did go there.
I can see the point. However, based on that logic then there would've been a good chance Milner would've been a regular starter and he didn't see fit to stay even with all the money they were offering
I think that is, for whatever reason, because they don't play him through the middle and never really have. His competition isn't Fernando etc. I agree that at this moment I think Delph starts for Man City but that might be with tinted glasses.
2 things for me. 1: I think the release cause is relegation only (we know nothing but that's what I'd be guessing). 2: That statement really was different to what you would hear from any footballer anywhere when signing a contract. I think the lad is a good egg. I wouldn't begrudge him the move though if he did. He could earn a lot more dough.
Not that I want it to happen but we would be at least getting £10m for someone who 5 months ago looked like they were going for nowtSomeone who signed a large, long new contract, made a particular point of emphasising his reasons for staying and is now worth £20m (c.f. Henderson, Lallana for price comparison).
Let's say it's true, if Nursey hadn't revealed it would the clause still exist?Careful. You're getting dangerously close to Schrödinger's cat with that.
Bit concerning the story is spreading to other outlets - sky, metro etc.Not to me because that's how it works. One of them runs a story, could be based on fact could be bollocks, the rest just repeat it.
with your Denmark / Copenhagen connection, I'm glad you made that link ... ;)Let's say it's true, if Nursey hadn't revealed it would the clause still exist?Careful. You're getting dangerously close to Schrödinger's cat with that.
Bit concerning the story is spreading to other outlets - sky, metro etc.Why's it concerning?
Bit concerning the story is spreading to other outlets - sky, metro etc.
And another thing.... metro and mirror is same groupBit concerning the story is spreading to other outlets - sky, metro etc.Not to me because that's how it works. One of them runs a story, could be based on fact could be bollocks, the rest just repeat it.
Phew. I feel better now.And another thing.... metro and mirror is same groupBit concerning the story is spreading to other outlets - sky, metro etc.Not to me because that's how it works. One of them runs a story, could be based on fact could be bollocks, the rest just repeat it.
Phew. I feel better now.And another thing.... metro and mirror is same groupBit concerning the story is spreading to other outlets - sky, metro etc.Not to me because that's how it works. One of them runs a story, could be based on fact could be bollocks, the rest just repeat it.
As it's clearly BS clampie
What I said was I don't think he's irreplaceable.As it's clearly BS clampie
But you said yesterday that he hadn't set the world alight and suggested he wouldn't be missed Sillyvilla.
What I said was I don't think he's irreplaceable.As it's clearly BS clampie
But you said yesterday that he hadn't set the world alight and suggested he wouldn't be missed Sillyvilla.
As is our oh so very local Birmingham Mail.And another thing.... metro and mirror is same groupBit concerning the story is spreading to other outlets - sky, metro etc.Not to me because that's how it works. One of them runs a story, could be based on fact could be bollocks, the rest just repeat it.
Telegraph suggesting that there is a release clause, but it's "significantly higher than the suggested £10million".
Bit concerning the story is spreading to other outlets - sky, metro etc.Not to me because that's how it works. One of them runs a story, could be based on fact could be bollocks, the rest just repeat it.
I can understand the buy out clause tbh. Delph could have easily left on a free and we would be well and truly in the mire. He may well have done it in case things were not looking better.Spot on I reckon
As for now, it is obvious from twitter that he is good mates with Micah Richards. I do wonder if Richards would have come in if he had known Delph would be moving on and lets face it, they will have talked? Secondly, why would he be spouting about next season and this is his club if he thinks he is going to p off.
Thirdly, and quite importantly, the euros next season. Will he be happy to be a squad player at the likes of Man City when it is imperative for him to be impressing the doddery old guy in charge of England?
In other words, I think James Nursery is a twat and causing hassle yet again
Jesus Christ
Delph leaving for that sum after all that "my club" bullshit a few months ago would be worse than Downing in my book
I hope it doesn't happen.
So basically Faulkners fault.
#mess
And to realise that there is no point using a hashtag on this messageboard.So basically Faulkners fault.
#mess
Can I ask what you are on about?
He'd have Downing level of weasel status if he left now after his "I'm Villa me, this is my club *wink*" speech.Downing would never have signed a new contract. The bastard would have been afraid of the fucking pen.
Hmm. John Percy does have more credibility than nursey. £8m clearly a lot better than zilch but it is a shockingly low fee. Quite an unusual situation - can't think of a similar instance elsewhereits not the fee though, just the value of the release clause (if it's true), ie a minimum. Look at it like a reserve price in an auction. You'd expect a few clubs to be fighting for him, so the eventual transfer fee would hopefully be significantly higher than 8m.
Don't blame villa for agreeeing to such a clause during this season's negotiation. The mistake was letting it get to six months from the end of his contract in the first place!
Hopefully delph's mindset is to see how we do next year before making a decision.
Hmm. John Percy does have more credibility than nursey. £8m clearly a lot better than zilch but it is a shockingly low fee. Quite an unusual situation - can't think of a similar instance elsewhereits not the fee though, just the value of the release clause (if it's true), ie a minimum. Look at it like a reserve price in an auction. You'd expect a few clubs to be fighting for him, so the eventual transfer fee would hopefully be significantly higher than 8m.
Don't blame villa for agreeeing to such a clause during this season's negotiation. The mistake was letting it get to six months from the end of his contract in the first place!
Hopefully delph's mindset is to see how we do next year before making a decision.
Hmm. John Percy does have more credibility than nursey. £8m clearly a lot better than zilch but it is a shockingly low fee. Quite an unusual situation - can't think of a similar instance elsewhereits not the fee though, just the value of the release clause (if it's true), ie a minimum. Look at it like a reserve price in an auction. You'd expect a few clubs to be fighting for him, so the eventual transfer fee would hopefully be significantly higher than 8m.
Don't blame villa for agreeeing to such a clause during this season's negotiation. The mistake was letting it get to six months from the end of his contract in the first place!
Hopefully delph's mindset is to see how we do next year before making a decision.
He'd have Downing level of weasel status if he left now after his "I'm Villa me, this is my club *wink*" speech.
Jesus Christ
Delph leaving for that sum after all that "my club" bullshit a few months ago would be worse than Downing in my book
I hope it doesn't happen.
Lets remember if Delph had not signed a new contract he would be leaving for free ..........
I guess the clause was inserted to ensure Villa did get a fee when he leaves
I don't believe this is anything like Downing
Delph is now an established England international and who could blame him if he joined Man City
We would all move to a bigger company in our jobs and we all have a contract
Having said all the above it would be sad to see him leave but we all know where in the table we will be !
- if it's a Suarez style "allows the player to speak to a club" it's almost worthless. I'd be stunned if any agents were accepting this kind of clause nowThat was never a thing.
Still not a peep from the club over 24 hours after the story broke. Obviously the attitude is "let's ignore it and hopefully the furore will go away". Mushroom management again.What are you expecting them to do?
Surely the club should set up it's own radio station to counter transfer speculation rumours and appoint someone like Tony Butler to give it dramatics gravitas whilst in between denial broadcasts the station should play patriotic Club songs to keep out spirits up?Still not a peep from the club over 24 hours after the story broke. Obviously the attitude is "let's ignore it and hopefully the furore will go away". Mushroom management again.What are you expecting them to do?
Still not a peep from the club over 24 hours after the story broke. Obviously the attitude is "let's ignore it and hopefully the furore will go away". Mushroom management again.
lee & Duncan - I think you're both wrong on this, though happy to be corrected if I am wrong. We don't have to accept a bid for him from any club unless he wants to go there. For example Stoke or Southampton might offer 8m for him, but if he doesn't want to go to either of those clubs we don't have to accept the bids or sell him. I accept the point that the figure is disappointingly low if true, but in reality you would expect that a Stoke or a Southampton might put that kind of bid in, but then say Liverpool or city or whoever would say: we'll bid 12m for him. At the end of the day, it's up to the player to decide if he wants to leave and which club he goes to. I could see it working the other way and a 'big' club like city for example offering 8m for him and offering him say 200k a week for him to sign, so the money goes largely to the player. But the fact remains we don't have to accept a bid if he doesn't like that club.Hmm. John Percy does have more credibility than nursey. £8m clearly a lot better than zilch but it is a shockingly low fee. Quite an unusual situation - can't think of a similar instance elsewhereits not the fee though, just the value of the release clause (if it's true), ie a minimum. Look at it like a reserve price in an auction. You'd expect a few clubs to be fighting for him, so the eventual transfer fee would hopefully be significantly higher than 8m.
Don't blame villa for agreeeing to such a clause during this season's negotiation. The mistake was letting it get to six months from the end of his contract in the first place!
Hopefully delph's mindset is to see how we do next year before making a decision.
No, we have to accept an £8m bid, therefore only an idiot would offer more. That's the point of a release clause.
Surely the club should set up it's own radio station to counter transfer speculation rumours and appoint someone like Tony Butler to give it dramatics gravitas whilst in between denial broadcasts the station should play patriotic Club songs to keep out spirits up?Still not a peep from the club over 24 hours after the story broke. Obviously the attitude is "let's ignore it and hopefully the furore will go away". Mushroom management again.What are you expecting them to do?
Still not a peep from the club over 24 hours after the story broke. Obviously the attitude is "let's ignore it and hopefully the furore will go away". Mushroom management again.
You can't expect the club to comment on every story that comes out. Besides, you're already convinced that he's on his way to Man City.
Surely the club should set up it's own radio station to counter transfer speculation rumours and appoint someone like Tony Butler to give it dramatics gravitas whilst in between denial broadcasts the station should play patriotic Club songs to keep out spirits up?Still not a peep from the club over 24 hours after the story broke. Obviously the attitude is "let's ignore it and hopefully the furore will go away". Mushroom management again.What are you expecting them to do?
I think as he's our star player and captain the club need to clarify things.why? What's that go to do with anything? They don't comment on speculation and fair enough. If someone actually comes up with a bid and offers him a deal he likes, then I would expect to hear a comment from the club. Up to that point, I would expect to hear fk all.
Still not a peep from the club over 24 hours after the story broke. Obviously the attitude is "let's ignore it and hopefully the furore will go away". Mushroom management again.
You can't expect the club to comment on every story that comes out. Besides, you're already convinced that he's on his way to Man City.
True, but in this instance I think they need to. They made a big thing about announcing Delph had committed, with the video message and press conference the following day. Its all starting to look like a patronizing publicity stunt.
Still not a peep from the club over 24 hours after the story broke. Obviously the attitude is "let's ignore it and hopefully the furore will go away". Mushroom management again.
You can't expect the club to comment on every story that comes out. Besides, you're already convinced that he's on his way to Man City.
True, but in this instance I think they need to. They made a big thing about announcing Delph had committed, with the video message and press conference the following day. Its all starting to look like a patronizing publicity stunt.
lee & Duncan - I think you're both wrong on this, though happy to be corrected if I am wrong. We don't have to accept a bid for him from any club unless he wants to go there. For example Stoke or Southampton might offer 8m for him, but if he doesn't want to go to either of those clubs we don't have to accept the bids or sell him. I accept the point that the figure is disappointingly low if true, but in reality you would expect that a Stoke or a Southampton might put that kind of bid in, but then say Liverpool or city or whoever would say: we'll bid 12m for him. At the end of the day, it's up to the player to decide if he wants to leave and which club he goes to. I could see it working the other way and a 'big' club like city for example offering 8m for him and offering him say 200k a week for him to sign, so the money goes largely to the player. But the fact remains we don't have to accept a bid if he doesn't like that club.Hmm. John Percy does have more credibility than nursey. £8m clearly a lot better than zilch but it is a shockingly low fee. Quite an unusual situation - can't think of a similar instance elsewhereits not the fee though, just the value of the release clause (if it's true), ie a minimum. Look at it like a reserve price in an auction. You'd expect a few clubs to be fighting for him, so the eventual transfer fee would hopefully be significantly higher than 8m.
Don't blame villa for agreeeing to such a clause during this season's negotiation. The mistake was letting it get to six months from the end of his contract in the first place!
Hopefully delph's mindset is to see how we do next year before making a decision.
No, we have to accept an £8m bid, therefore only an idiot would offer more. That's the point of a release clause.
The only fly seems to be Liverpool flat refused to sell at the release clause in Suarez' contract when Aresnal came in for him.And if Suarez and Arsenal had decided to pursue the matter legally then Liverpool wouldn't really have had a leg to stand on.
The only fly seems to be Liverpool flat refused to sell at the release clause in Suarez' contract when Aresnal came in for him.
It was.The only fly seems to be Liverpool flat refused to sell at the release clause in Suarez' contract when Aresnal came in for him.
My understanding was that It wasn't a release clause. It allowed him to discuss with other teams. Liverpool under no obligation to sell. But that might have been a false rumour.
Liverpool owner John Henry has admitted striker Luis Suarez had a £40m buy-out clause in his previous contract but that the club refused to sell anyway.
Arsenal bid a pound over £40m for the 27-year-old last summer, believing it would force the Reds into a sale.
"Arsenal offered £40m and one pound for him and triggered his buy-out clause," said Henry.
"Since apparently these contracts don't seem to hold, we took the position we're just not selling...
...speaking as part of a panel at the MIT Sloan Sports Analytics Conference at the weekend, the 64-year-old American said: "I don't know to what degree I should go into this - but [Suarez] had a buy-out clause of £40m.
"But what we've found over the years is that contracts don't seem to mean a lot in England - actually not in England, in world football.
"It doesn't matter how long a player's contract is, he can decide he's leaving.
"We sold Fernando Torres for £50m. We didn't want to sell but we were forced to.
"For the first time [with Suarez] we took the position that we weren't selling.""
Fabian Delph, 25, can leave Aston Villa for just £8m this summer after the club agreed a remarkable release clause in his new contract, understood to apply only to teams involved in European competition. (Telegraph)
Maybe he had it put in in case Lambert was still manager.
Fabian Delph, 25, can leave Aston Villa for just £8m this summer after the club agreed a remarkable release clause in his new contract, understood to apply only to teams involved in European competition. (Telegraph)
West Ham will be in for him then
I thought release clauses usually stated a minimum amount and not an actual amount. Also, are there not two types of clause, one an express contractual and the other an implied good faith type. In both cases, isn't there usually a limiting factor on triggering the clause e.g. relegation, CL qualified club etc. With a minimum amount, wouldn't this imply that you could get two or more teams bidding. The player is not a free agent.What would be the point of a 'minimum amount'? What if the player turned out to be rubbish and you wanted to sell him, but because you've put a minimum amount in the contract you wouldn't be able to? A release clause is just as the name suggests - it entitles the player to trigger his release from the contract.
If citeh's interest and the clause are genuine it would make the £12m plus players deal seem more logical.
I think he'd get in the city midfield at the moment. Not if they get pogba in as well though.
I thought release clauses usually stated a minimum amount and not an actual amount. Also, are there not two types of clause, one an express contractual and the other an implied good faith type. In both cases, isn't there usually a limiting factor on triggering the clause e.g. relegation, CL qualified club etc. With a minimum amount, wouldn't this imply that you could get two or more teams bidding. The player is not a free agent.What would be the point of a 'minimum amount'? What if the player turned out to be rubbish and you wanted to sell him, but because you've put a minimum amount in the contract you wouldn't be able to? A release clause is just as the name suggests - it entitles the player to trigger his release from the contract.
As for 'implied good faith', why would you put that into a legal contract? If neither party has to abide by it, why would you spend time even putting it in there?
If there were a 'minimum amount' then yes, you could get two teams bidding. But that's not how release clauses work, so therefore you wouldn't. I can't think of any examples where a player has had a buy-out clause in his contract at the time of the transfer and the buying club paid more than they had to. There just wouldn't be a reason for them to do so.
Demba Ba had a clause in his Newcastle contract which meant that he could move to any team in the Champions League for £7m - Chelsea met that clause, bingo, he becomes a Chelsea player.I thought release clauses usually stated a minimum amount and not an actual amount. Also, are there not two types of clause, one an express contractual and the other an implied good faith type. In both cases, isn't there usually a limiting factor on triggering the clause e.g. relegation, CL qualified club etc. With a minimum amount, wouldn't this imply that you could get two or more teams bidding. The player is not a free agent.What would be the point of a 'minimum amount'? What if the player turned out to be rubbish and you wanted to sell him, but because you've put a minimum amount in the contract you wouldn't be able to? A release clause is just as the name suggests - it entitles the player to trigger his release from the contract.
As for 'implied good faith', why would you put that into a legal contract? If neither party has to abide by it, why would you spend time even putting it in there?
If there were a 'minimum amount' then yes, you could get two teams bidding. But that's not how release clauses work, so therefore you wouldn't. I can't think of any examples where a player has had a buy-out clause in his contract at the time of the transfer and the buying club paid more than they had to. There just wouldn't be a reason for them to do so.
Which players have enforced a release clause to get a transfer?
If the club don't speak out this week , I hope Delph does . Either way we need to know sooner rather than later what's happening.We don't really.
Demba Ba had a clause in his Newcastle contract which meant that he could move to any team in the Champions League for £7m - Chelsea met that clause, bingo, he becomes a Chelsea player.I thought release clauses usually stated a minimum amount and not an actual amount. Also, are there not two types of clause, one an express contractual and the other an implied good faith type. In both cases, isn't there usually a limiting factor on triggering the clause e.g. relegation, CL qualified club etc. With a minimum amount, wouldn't this imply that you could get two or more teams bidding. The player is not a free agent.What would be the point of a 'minimum amount'? What if the player turned out to be rubbish and you wanted to sell him, but because you've put a minimum amount in the contract you wouldn't be able to? A release clause is just as the name suggests - it entitles the player to trigger his release from the contract.
As for 'implied good faith', why would you put that into a legal contract? If neither party has to abide by it, why would you spend time even putting it in there?
If there were a 'minimum amount' then yes, you could get two teams bidding. But that's not how release clauses work, so therefore you wouldn't. I can't think of any examples where a player has had a buy-out clause in his contract at the time of the transfer and the buying club paid more than they had to. There just wouldn't be a reason for them to do so.
Which players have enforced a release clause to get a transfer?
Liverpool met the buy-out clause in Joe Allen's Swansea contract as well.
Point being we need ample time to seek replacements if indeed that is the case. Therefore the sooner we are made clear the better.
Wasn't Ba's release clause to protect Newcastle because of his injury record i.e. the limiting amount that the club would have to pay out.I don't see how - otherwise there wouldn't have been any stipulations about Champions League teams. If Villa had bid £7m then they could have chosen to accept it or not. If Chelsea or Arsenal bid then they have no choice in the matter.
Emile Heskey always had a release clause in his contracts. It said "On expiry of 12 months without scoring a goal in any competition the player has the right to seek a termination and move to a Club of not his choice". He enforced that in almost every move in his career.
If citeh's interest and the clause are genuine it would make the £12m plus players deal seem more logical.
I think he'd get in the city midfield at the moment. Not if they get pogba in as well though.
Delph is not CL quality and therefore City will be buying other midfield players that are. Their owners want CL football and will spend the necessary money. Delph to City would be a waste of his footballing career but would be financially rewarded. Not being in that financial position, I do not know what it would feel like to get an extra £25k a week (or whatever it would be) for giving up playing week in week out, having dedicated most of his life to reaching the playing level he has.
If the club don't speak out this week , I hope Delph does . Either way we need to know sooner rather than later what's happening. Same with Benteke .
If the club don't speak out this week , I hope Delph does . Either way we need to know sooner rather than later what's happening.We don't really.
Either it's true and we'll find out when a club makes a bid. Or it's not true, no bids come in and we just carry on.
If the club or player come out and say "yes, it's true" is that going to make you feel that much better about things?
If the club don't speak out this week , I hope Delph does . Either way we need to know sooner rather than later what's happening.We don't really.
Either it's true and we'll find out when a club makes a bid. Or it's not true, no bids come in and we just carry on.
If the club or player come out and say "yes, it's true" is that going to make you feel that much better about things?
stop making excuses for the club.... I've just forked out again for a season ticket - they need to be upfront on this.
If citeh's interest and the clause are genuine it would make the £12m plus players deal seem more logical.
I think he'd get in the city midfield at the moment. Not if they get pogba in as well though.
Delph is not CL quality and therefore City will be buying other midfield players that are. Their owners want CL football and will spend the necessary money. Delph to City would be a waste of his footballing career but would be financially rewarded. Not being in that financial position, I do not know what it would feel like to get an extra £25k a week (or whatever it would be) for giving up playing week in week out, having dedicated most of his life to reaching the playing level he has.
Well to be honest it's not about whether he is CL quality it's about him being 'homegrown'. They need another 5 to fill the quota to avoid sanctions. On the top of my head I can't think of many homegrown players City could get at his level, particularly for such a low fee (if true).
As I've said several times, if the club came out and said "yes, that's right - there's a £10m release clause" would that then make you content and satisfied?If the club don't speak out this week , I hope Delph does . Either way we need to know sooner rather than later what's happening.We don't really.
Either it's true and we'll find out when a club makes a bid. Or it's not true, no bids come in and we just carry on.
If the club or player come out and say "yes, it's true" is that going to make you feel that much better about things?
stop making excuses for the club.... I've just forked out again for a season ticket - they need to be upfront on this.
If it's regarding the club captain possibly going , yes they do.If the club don't speak out this week , I hope Delph does . Either way we need to know sooner rather than later what's happening.We don't really.
Either it's true and we'll find out when a club makes a bid. Or it's not true, no bids come in and we just carry on.
If the club or player come out and say "yes, it's true" is that going to make you feel that much better about things?
stop making excuses for the club.... I've just forked out again for a season ticket - they need to be upfront on this.
Does any other club respond to every bit of press speculation?
Presumably you have examples to back this up?If it's regarding the club captain possibly going , yes they do.If the club don't speak out this week , I hope Delph does . Either way we need to know sooner rather than later what's happening.We don't really.
Either it's true and we'll find out when a club makes a bid. Or it's not true, no bids come in and we just carry on.
If the club or player come out and say "yes, it's true" is that going to make you feel that much better about things?
stop making excuses for the club.... I've just forked out again for a season ticket - they need to be upfront on this.
Does any other club respond to every bit of press speculation?
Some hope from Blue Moon -
Lock thread 65 pages for nothing. I seen him out in leeds last night he said no chance when I asked if he was coming to city.
Some hope from Blue Moon -Excellent stuff, Silhill, good news at last!
Lock thread 65 pages for nothing. I seen him out in leeds last night he said no chance when I asked if he was coming to city.
Some hope from Blue Moon -Excellent stuff, Silhill, good news at last!
Lock thread 65 pages for nothing. I seen him out in leeds last night he said no chance when I asked if he was coming to city.
About the only positive thing on here re Delph for a few days. It has at least as much chance of being true as all the other stuff in the press ( speculation) and is a quote from the player.
Well, it is the only positive thing, so, no.Some hope from Blue Moon -Excellent stuff, Silhill, good news at last!
Lock thread 65 pages for nothing. I seen him out in leeds last night he said no chance when I asked if he was coming to city.
About the only positive thing on here re Delph for a few days. It has at least as much chance of being true as all the other stuff in the press ( speculation) and is a quote from the player.
I do hope you are taking the p lol
I should imagine that there will be more comments coming out of the club when training starts on the 6th July and right people are around to make statements.
I should imagine that there will be more comments coming out of the club when training starts on the 6th July and right people are around to make statements.
There bloody needs to be. The club is taking a bit of a kicking in the last 48 hours, while Delph is being made to look dishonest. I guess we'll have to wait until they deign to sheepishly slide a statement onto the club website.
The club's certainly taking a bit of a kicking on here.I should imagine that there will be more comments coming out of the club when training starts on the 6th July and right people are around to make statements.
There bloody needs to be. The club is taking a bit of a kicking in the last 48 hours, while Delph is being made to look dishonest. I guess we'll have to wait until they deign to sheepishly slide a statement onto the club website.
I should imagine that there will be more comments coming out of the club when training starts on the 6th July and right people are around to make statements.
There bloody needs to be. The club is taking a bit of a kicking in the last 48 hours, while Delph is being made to look dishonest. I guess we'll have to wait until they deign to sheepishly slide a statement onto the club website.
This is all getting a bit ridiculous. An uncorroborated story is published and somehow it's all the Villa's fault
I should imagine that there will be more comments coming out of the club when training starts on the 6th July and right people are around to make statements.
There bloody needs to be. The club is taking a bit of a kicking in the last 48 hours, while Delph is being made to look dishonest. I guess we'll have to wait until they deign to sheepishly slide a statement onto the club website.
This is all getting a bit ridiculous. An uncorroborated story is published and somehow it's all the Villa's fault
I'm not saying its the clubs fault. I'm saying that the wall of silence they've erected isn't helpful. When are they going to understand that their silence only promotes rumour & speculation.
They just ain't learning. As I posted earlier, its mushroom management of the fans yet again.
I saw a man who looked very much like Fabian delph in a blue t shirt howling at the moon
Make of that what you will
Ha, ha - very good, Lee.I saw a man who looked very much like Fabian delph in a blue t shirt howling at the moon
Make of that what you will
That could just have easily been footyskillz or sillhillvilla on current form.
I saw a man who looked very much like Fabian delph in a blue t shirt howling at the moon
Make of that what you will
I saw a man who looked very much like Fabian delph in a blue t shirt howling at the moon
Make of that what you will
The minute they start to respond to one story, they'll be expected to comment on just about every piece of journalistic crap that gets published, maybe not by you, but the instant precedent is set, there's no going back.I should imagine that there will be more comments coming out of the club when training starts on the 6th July and right people are around to make statements.
There bloody needs to be. The club is taking a bit of a kicking in the last 48 hours, while Delph is being made to look dishonest. I guess we'll have to wait until they deign to sheepishly slide a statement onto the club website.
This is all getting a bit ridiculous. An uncorroborated story is published and somehow it's all the Villa's fault
I'm not saying its the clubs fault. I'm saying that the wall of silence they've erected isn't helpful. When are they going to understand that their silence only promotes rumour & speculation.
They just ain't learning. As I posted earlier, its mushroom management of the fans yet again.
Delphy has purchased a static caravan in Weymouth. Deffo signing for The Saints. #nailedon #cuntflugelIs that straight from the Oracle?
If I had a pound for every time someone's wrote ' if they responded to every bit of speculation ' blah blah blah
I'd be retired and living in Antibes
Oh dear -
Aston Villa have reportedly agreed a £9m fee with Lille for midfielder Idrissa Gueye.
And that could give Liverpool and Manchester City a boost in their pursuit of Fabian Delph.
The England international has been linked with a move up the Premier League. City in particular are thought to be keen as they seek to improve their home-grown quota, while Liverpool are after a replacement for Steven Gerrard.
Delph only signed a new contract at the Midlands club earlier this year, but it seems that Villa still fear that they could lose him.
Tim Sherwood has moved to bring in a ready-made replacement, with Sky Sports claiming that 25-year-old Gueye arrived at Birmingham airport today to undergo a medical and discuss personal terms.
The Senegalese, who helped Lille finish eighth in Ligue 1 last season, would be Villa’s most expensive purchase since the signing of Charles N’Zogbia from Wigan Athletic in 2011.
Oh dear -So Henderson and Milner don't exist then?
Aston Villa have reportedly agreed a £9m fee with Lille for midfielder Idrissa Gueye.
And that could give Liverpool and Manchester City a boost in their pursuit of Fabian Delph.
The England international has been linked with a move up the Premier League. City in particular are thought to be keen as they seek to improve their home-grown quota, while Liverpool are after a replacement for Steven Gerrard.
Delph only signed a new contract at the Midlands club earlier this year, but it seems that Villa still fear that they could lose him.
Tim Sherwood has moved to bring in a ready-made replacement, with Sky Sports claiming that 25-year-old Gueye arrived at Birmingham airport today to undergo a medical and discuss personal terms.
The Senegalese, who helped Lille finish eighth in Ligue 1 last season, would be Villa’s most expensive purchase since the signing of Charles N’Zogbia from Wigan Athletic in 2011.
What's Oh Dear? Do you shit yourself at every bit of new information? It's no different to any of the news, rumours, bollocks and gossip that has been published over the past few days.
You are Mr Jelly and I claim my 50p
My biggest fear is Ci£y will snap him up (or have already agreed to in principle) hence us rushing this Gueye deal over the line ASAP.
My biggest fear is Ci£y will snap him up (or have already agreed to in principle) hence us rushing this Gueye deal over the line ASAP.
He is replaceable.My biggest fear is Ci£y will snap him up (or have already agreed to in principle) hence us rushing this Gueye deal over the line ASAP.
But you said last week that he was replaceable. You've not got a clue, you really haven't.
If we sign no one, it's a bad thing. If we sign someone cheap, it's a bad thing. If we sign someone for a decent wedge, it's a bad thing.
I'm convinced SV could win the lottery, wake up next to Kaley Cuoco, we get taken over by the world's richest bloke, sign Messi the next day, and it would still be a bad day for SV! ;D
And hat Kaley chick is no good in goal.If we sign no one, it's a bad thing. If we sign someone cheap, it's a bad thing. If we sign someone for a decent wedge, it's a bad thing.
I'm convinced SV could win the lottery, wake up next to Kaley Cuoco, we get taken over by the world's richest bloke, sign Messi the next day, and it would still be a bad day for SV! ;D
But can Messi play at left back? Or come to think about it centre half?
All I did was raise a concern. If gueye is in and Delphi out ? Fine if you're on comfortable street with that.Lavish Lilli strikes again
All I did was raise a concern. If gueye is in and Delphi out ? Fine if you're on comfortable street with that.The Oracle speaks.
He is replaceable.My biggest fear is Ci£y will snap him up (or have already agreed to in principle) hence us rushing this Gueye deal over the line ASAP.
But you said last week that he was replaceable. You've not got a clue, you really haven't.
Have you seen much of Gueye
My biggest fear is Ci£y will snap him up (or have already agreed to in principle) hence us rushing this Gueye deal over the line ASAP.
How are we rushing a deal? For all you know he might have been scouted weeks or even months ago and the first rumours about some guy named like a cheese were heard a few days back. It's the transfer window, deals happen in transfer windows!
were spending more money on one player than weve spent since Charles N'Zogbia was our saviour???
Thinking, hasn't benteke agreed an extension, hasn't delph pledged himself, and now were spending more money on one player than weve spent since Darren Bent was our saviour??? I don't know but seems a bit of positivity to me, so maybe the deal for the club has been done? but cleverly we are dipping under the radar of these guys have now got money lets screw them ala citeh, just a thought.
but then in my world 2 + 2 = anything Angel Mirkel tells Cameron it equals.
SillhillvillaVariable. Today was 20c colder than yesterday.
How would you describe the weather at the moment?
...but then in my world 2 + 2 = anything Angel Mirkel tells Cameron it equals.
Angel Mirkel?
...but then in my world 2 + 2 = anything Angel Mirkel tells Cameron it equals.
Angel Mirkel?
Can he play left back?
...but then in my world 2 + 2 = anything Angel Mirkel tells Cameron it equals.
Angel Mirkel?
Can he play left back?
...but then in my world 2 + 2 = anything Angel Mirkel tells Cameron it equals.
Angel Mirkel?
Can he play left back?
No, plays for Germany in what I like to call "the number 10 downing st role".
Was Delph in any of the promo kit stuff yesterday?
Clark also in promo kit work
Weren't the just Photoshopped into the various promotional images?
Unless he was injuredClark also in promo kit work
Interesting, I had a theory that because it was the new kit then the club didnt have access to our internationals for the shoot whenever it was taken, but if clark was there then that blows it away, he was playing with the Republic during international break right?
If he goes then I wish him all the best. His signing up a few months ago gave us a huge boost and that together with his end of season form played a massive part in us staying up and the cup run. It also gets us the £8m or so we wouldn't have got if he didn't sign. So whether he stays or goes he has done us a big favour.
I don't think he should get stick for the 'my club' quotes either - that played it's own part in galvanizing the fans and the team.
Express are running that he has agreed terms with them. If he goes I will be as gutted as when we last Milner, although not as good Delph was symbol of something different after his statement after signing his new deal.
I think we'll just have to disagree. It was a really big boost and has made us a lot of money too.
If we get Gueye I will be less concerned, still would be a pisser though.
I think we'll just have to disagree. It was a really big boost and has made us a lot of money too.
I know, I do appreciate something is better than nothing, it's just a body blow in footballing terms to lose your Captain a couple of months after he resigns.
I'm sure if we sign players of the calibre of who we are linked with, such as Amavi and Gueye then we will be much stronger next year but I don't like the image of our club losing it's Captain so quickly, I'd rather he stayed another season. New World order and all that I guess, we are in reality not attractive.
If this is true, how disappointing. 8 million? Deary me. If this is true, there will be no well wishes from me, Fabian.
All that talk of loving the club and your team being like brothers.....sigh.
He won't bench warm.
I'll await a stronger source than Goal.com
If he had just signed a contract and then left I would be ok with this. But signing a contract, then professing your love for the club and it being your home etc and then going leaves a bitter taste.
He won't bench warm.
We'll see. I can't help feeling the main reason they would want him is - yes he's a good player - but he's English and they need homegrown numbers to meet ffp and to replace Milner - who did have a lot of games last season but he plays wider than Delph. If he's competing with the likes of Nasri, Silva, Navas and Toure for more central MF I don't think he'll get as many games. Time will tell
If he leaves it will confirm in my mind that he wanted to leave before he signed his new deal but no one came in for him. He was only convinced to sign a new deal because of a such a low release fee and the prospect of a nice wage boost in the interim.
Whose strategy is this to get our best players to sign new deals by adding low release clauses in them. The Benteke one was before Fox joined so im not sure - but it's an incredibly naïve tactic.
If he leaves it will confirm in my mind that he wanted to leave before he signed his new deal but no one came in for him. He was only convinced to sign a new deal because of a such a low release fee and the prospect of a nice wage boost in the interim.
Whose strategy is this to get our best players to sign new deals by adding low release clauses in them. The Benteke one was before Fox joined so im not sure - but it's an incredibly naïve tactic.
That's how I see it. I hoped the rumours weren't true but if he goes so be it. Keeping him since January was a major factor in staying up and getting to Wembley so I am thankful for that.If he leaves it will confirm in my mind that he wanted to leave before he signed his new deal but no one came in for him. He was only convinced to sign a new deal because of a such a low release fee and the prospect of a nice wage boost in the interim.
Whose strategy is this to get our best players to sign new deals by adding low release clauses in them. The Benteke one was before Fox joined so im not sure - but it's an incredibly naïve tactic.
I don't consider £8m rather than a free in the summer to be at all naive. Leaving it so late was, but the final deal was very good business.
It's the size of the transfer that is a major issue given what we see everyday paid for far less significant players. That and the whole "I love you Villa, this is my club, thanks for sticking by me" stuff that was so proudly delivered. I don't have any issue with ambition but if you agree to a deal and ensure there is a very easy get out clause, then why go to such lengths to deliver the news and celebrate it? That's why it would feel like a bigger kick in nuts than it should.
how many games people think he will play for city depends entirely on how highly individual posters rate him
for me I think he's top class,
I've always believed really good players will play better in better teams, ie when Delph stepped up to the England team it didn't take long before he looked at home at international level, not every player can do that as we have seen over the years
It's the size of the transfer that is a major issue given what we see everyday paid for far less significant players. That and the whole "I love you Villa, this is my club, thanks for sticking by me" stuff that was so proudly delivered. I don't have any issue with ambition but if you agree to a deal and ensure there is a very easy get out clause, then why go to such lengths to deliver the news and celebrate it? That's why it would feel like a bigger kick in nuts than it should.
Yep I think that's basically it.
It's the size of the transfer that is a major issue given what we see everyday paid for far less significant players. That and the whole "I love you Villa, this is my club, thanks for sticking by me" stuff that was so proudly delivered. I don't have any issue with ambition but if you agree to a deal and ensure there is a very easy get out clause, then why go to such lengths to deliver the news and celebrate it? That's why it would feel like a bigger kick in nuts than it should.
how many games people think he will play for city depends entirely on how highly individual posters rate him
for me I think he's top class,
I've always believed really good players will play better in better teams, ie when Delph stepped up to the England team it didn't take long before he looked at home at international level, not every player can do that as we have seen over the years
so I reckon he will continue to improve and like Barry did when he went to City and soon prove that he is well capable of a regular first team place
that's how highly I think of him
if you don't rate him that highly you will obviously think he will spend a lot of time on the bench, only time will tell
It's the size of the transfer that is a major issue given what we see everyday paid for far less significant players. That and the whole "I love you Villa, this is my club, thanks for sticking by me" stuff that was so proudly delivered. I don't have any issue with ambition but if you agree to a deal and ensure there is a very easy get out clause, then why go to such lengths to deliver the news and celebrate it? That's why it would feel like a bigger kick in nuts than it should.
Yep I think that's basically it.
It's the size of the transfer that is a major issue given what we see everyday paid for far less significant players. That and the whole "I love you Villa, this is my club, thanks for sticking by me" stuff that was so proudly delivered. I don't have any issue with ambition but if you agree to a deal and ensure there is a very easy get out clause, then why go to such lengths to deliver the news and celebrate it? That's why it would feel like a bigger kick in nuts than it should.
Yep I think that's basically it.
I just think, knowing the deal he had signed had this clause in it, the words he uttered in the days after it now look like some of the most duplicitous that you can imagine, if of course the reports are to be true. At least we made a healthy profit on Downing and Barry did a lot more for us than Delph has done. I accept that it better than getting nothing, but don't make the fuss if it is complete bobbins.
If this is true, how disappointing. 8 million? Deary me. If this is true, there will be no well wishes from me, Fabian.
All that talk of loving the club and your team being like brothers.....sigh.
It's not t a small amount of money, that's a fee for a decent player. Compared to going for free, it's good.
Wasn't the idea that Fabian felt he owed Lerner from how he treated him in the first couple of years of his contract and that he couldn't just walk away on a free after that. So signing a new contract with a release clause that would be triggered with a bid of £xm being the solution.
shit happens - and in this case it's yet to happen. But if it does, it's just grist to the mill. How many of us have made slightly disingenuous statements in the past by way of pacification? Christ it's only football, it's not as if he'd be committing some heinous crime.
Wasn't the idea that Fabian felt he owed Lerner from how he treated him in the first couple of years of his contract and that he couldn't just walk away on a free after that. So signing a new contract with a release clause that would be triggered with a bid of £xm being the solution.
That's fine. But the club getting £8m or even £10m is still a very low valuation. Why not £15m which would be more palatable and still below his value. But it's more all of the gushing love after he signed. It will be ring quite hollow if at the first bid meeting the buy out clause he leaves.
It does make a mockery of Fabians supposed loyalty. He basically signed a contract that was meaningless. 8 mill is comfortably below half of his market value.
I don't mind players looking out for their own interests, but don't come all the guff about loyalty and loving the club.
I would like to think that we at least tried to double the release clause.
If this is true (that he has a 8M clause), then it was purely a thank you to Villa, and help finding his replacement. Again, if this was the scenario, then Man City was probably already sorted, as he knows 8M wouldn't affect themWasn't the idea that Fabian felt he owed Lerner from how he treated him in the first couple of years of his contract and that he couldn't just walk away on a free after that. So signing a new contract with a release clause that would be triggered with a bid of £xm being the solution.
That's fine. But the club getting £8m or even £10m is still a very low valuation. Why not £15m which would be more palatable and still below his value. But it's more all of the gushing love after he signed. It will be ring quite hollow if at the first bid meeting the buy out clause he leaves.
In January he held all the cards. Most players would have held out and walked for nothing; this way we get some money at least - probably half his true value, which is a compromise of sorts.
It was meaningless in terms of his desire to actually s stay at the club.
He basically signed what amounted (for him) to a rolling week to week deal at improved terms.
I am of course more than willimg to be proven wrong by his actions over the upcoming days
Regarding Delph's comments after the contract signing, 1) there's just talk at the moment, there's not even been confirmation that the clause exists; 2) his contract signing and attitude following were huge factors in keeping us up; 3) Is it not possible for his comments to have been genuine but also have a desire to test himself at the highest levels and see what he can achieve?
Do Leeds have a sell-on clause due to them if this goes through? That would mean we've made a loss on him. Hard to take when he ultimately (after much support from our medical staff, Randy and the fans) did live up to the potential that made us shell out £7-8m five years ago.
Regarding Delph's comments after the contract signing, 1) there's just talk at the moment, there's not even been confirmation that the clause exists; 2) his contract signing and attitude following were huge factors in keeping us up; 3) Is it not possible for his comments to have been genuine but also have a desire to test himself at the highest levels and see what he can achieve?
Exactly.
Wasn't the idea that Fabian felt he owed Lerner from how he treated him in the first couple of years of his contract and that he couldn't just walk away on a free after that. So signing a new contract with a release clause that would be triggered with a bid of £xm being the solution.
That's fine. But the club getting £8m or even £10m is still a very low valuation. Why not £15m which would be more palatable and still below his value. But it's more all of the gushing love after he signed. It will be ring quite hollow if at the first bid meeting the buy out clause he leaves.
In January he held all the cards. Most players would have held out and walked for nothing; this way we get some money at least - probably half his true value, which is a compromise of sorts.
Regarding Delph's comments after the contract signing, 1) there's just talk at the moment, there's not even been confirmation that the clause exists; 2) his contract signing and attitude following were huge factors in keeping us up; 3) Is it not possible for his comments to have been genuine but also have a desire to test himself at the highest levels and see what he can achieve?
Exactly.
Can't argue with that.
Has anyone pointed out that it's only the bloody Express yet?
Ok so I went on google and looked at the top 20 or so news articles about the Delph story. Most of them don't bother to say where they got the story from, simply citing 'sources', and those that do all link to a single article on goal.com.
So this all comes down to how reliable you think goal.com is.
Ok so I went on google and looked at the top 20 or so news articles about the Delph story. Most of them don't bother to say where they got the story from, simply citing 'sources', and those that do all link to a single article on goal.com.
So this all comes down to how reliable you think goal.com is.
The sources credibility league from top to bottom.
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Independent
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BBC but written by Pat Murphy
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Actually, there was a survey done a few years ago on the accuracy of media transfer gossip. It concluded that the Daily Mail was the best, with an accuracy rate of 4%.
Actually, there was a survey done a few years ago on the accuracy of media transfer gossip. It concluded that the Daily Mail was the best, with an accuracy rate of 4%.
Wow. Thats amazing on a couple of levels. A.) The winning % is so low and B.) Its the daily mail.
Actually, there was a survey done a few years ago on the accuracy of media transfer gossip. It concluded that the Daily Mail was the best, with an accuracy rate of 4%.
Wow. Thats amazing on a couple of levels. A.) The winning % is so low and B.) Its the daily mail.
Actually, there was a survey done a few years ago on the accuracy of media transfer gossip. It concluded that the Daily Mail was the best, with an accuracy rate of 4%.
Wow. Thats amazing on a couple of levels. A.) The winning % is so low and B.) Its the daily mail.
C) I don't think he's being serious.
The actual list (http://www.newstalk.com/who-provides-the-most-accurate-transfer-rumours)
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I've read a few people saying delph should look at Sinclair and rodwell.
He should look at Barry and Milner. Both England central midfielders. I docubt either regretted leaving. I think delph could genuinely be as good as Barry. Not Milner though.
He owes us one more season. Then he can go with my blessing.I've read a few people saying delph should look at Sinclair and rodwell.
He should look at Barry and Milner. Both England central midfielders. I docubt either regretted leaving. I think delph could genuinely be as good as Barry. Not Milner though.
Agree with this. Ive no problem with Delph leaving for a better club who are better placed to win things. He has to do whats right for himself.
I've read a few people saying delph should look at Sinclair and rodwell.
He should look at Barry and Milner. Both England central midfielders. I docubt either regretted leaving. I think delph could genuinely be as good as Barry. Not Milner though.
Agree with this. Ive no problem with Delph leaving for a better club who are better placed to win things. He has to do whats right for himself.
I've read a few people saying delph should look at Sinclair and rodwell.
He should look at Barry and Milner. Both England central midfielders. I docubt either regretted leaving. I think delph could genuinely be as good as Barry. Not Milner though.
Agree with this. Ive no problem with Delph leaving for a better club who are better placed to win things. He has to do whats right for himself.
I am sorry but I am still a believer in a player honouring his contract unless the club does not perform as expected from the time of signing the contract. At which time (say 2 years into a 4 year contract), you request a transfer and the club gets the market value for the player.
Obviously it does not happen like this but it does not stop me thinking less of a player if he holds the club to ransom and the club gets less than they should in a transfer. I hate Bosman for setting in motion what football has become today.
I may be misguided, but actually feel that Delph has a bit of loyalty to the club. If he does leave, I will understand as he wants to play at a higher level to better himself. However, I hope he does not live to regret it should he not get a regular game at Man City, especially with the Euros at the end of next season. Maybe the deal was made with him so that we don't totally lose out on him and fair play to him for us at least getting some money for him if that is the case. I did get the impression at the end of season with his comments that he would be staying and hopefully that will be the case.I'm not sure what sort of wage Ci£y would offer Delphi but I'd assume it's well North of £100k a week on a 4 year deal. Let's say £125k for arguments sake .
I may be misguided, but actually feel that Delph has a bit of loyalty to the club. If he does leave, I will understand as he wants to play at a higher level to better himself. However, I hope he does not live to regret it should he not get a regular game at Man City, especially with the Euros at the end of next season. Maybe the deal was made with him so that we don't totally lose out on him and fair play to him for us at least getting some money for him if that is the case. I did get the impression at the end of season with his comments that he would be staying and hopefully that will be the case.I'm not sure what sort of wage Ci£y would offer Delphi but I'd assume it's well North of £100k a week on a 4 year deal. Let's say £125k for arguments sake .
I'd imagine we'd go £70k tops . That's a difference of circa £12m which bottom line is what this will come down to.
I'm pretty sure he signed that deal so we'd get something for him. I'm also petty sure he'll leave, it's sad but inevitableIf that were the case it's a shame they didn't raise the price a bit particularly knowing the new TV millions was kicking in. £8m quite frankly is a paltry amount.
I'm pretty sure he signed that deal so we'd get something for him. I'm also petty sure he'll leave, it's sad but inevitableIf that were the case it's a shame they didn't raise the price a bit particularly knowing the new TV millions was kicking in. £8m quite frankly is a paltry amount.
True. But why not stick £15m in ?I'm pretty sure he signed that deal so we'd get something for him. I'm also petty sure he'll leave, it's sad but inevitableIf that were the case it's a shame they didn't raise the price a bit particularly knowing the new TV millions was kicking in. £8m quite frankly is a paltry amount.
It is £8m more than feck all though
True. But why not stick £15m in ?I'm pretty sure he signed that deal so we'd get something for him. I'm also petty sure he'll leave, it's sad but inevitableIf that were the case it's a shame they didn't raise the price a bit particularly knowing the new TV millions was kicking in. £8m quite frankly is a paltry amount.
It is £8m more than feck all though
I'm sure he said to leave on a free wouldn't sit right with him. I could be wrong. My concern is that he's only being signed to fill the home grown quota, he's not the best midfielder there and he could end up out of position or on the bench and he could lose his England place
The glimmer of hope is, we don't know who's buying us, they may have very deep pockets ? They may say, Delphi is going nowhere and match whatever wages anyone else offers ??
Fuck football is shit these days when a club can be raped of their players just so another club can fill it's own grown quota. Another well intended idea that is shafting all but the richest clubs up the.....
Because £8M was what Delph / agent were prepared to let be written into the contract?True. But why not stick £15m in ?I'm pretty sure he signed that deal so we'd get something for him. I'm also petty sure he'll leave, it's sad but inevitableIf that were the case it's a shame they didn't raise the price a bit particularly knowing the new TV millions was kicking in. £8m quite frankly is a paltry amount.
It is £8m more than feck all though
Fine, so if Delph sees out the contract that he was on, didn't sign a new one in January and left on a free transfer this summer then you could surely have no complaints?I've read a few people saying delph should look at Sinclair and rodwell.
He should look at Barry and Milner. Both England central midfielders. I docubt either regretted leaving. I think delph could genuinely be as good as Barry. Not Milner though.
Agree with this. Ive no problem with Delph leaving for a better club who are better placed to win things. He has to do whats right for himself.
I am sorry but I am still a believer in a player honouring his contract unless the club does not perform as expected from the time of signing the contract. At which time (say 2 years into a 4 year contract), you request a transfer and the club gets the market value for the player.
Obviously it does not happen like this but it does not stop me thinking less of a player if he holds the club to ransom and the club gets less than they should in a transfer. I hate Bosman for setting in motion what football has become today.
My biggest fear on Delphi is those tramps on merseyside . Whilst seeing him sat in a tracksuit on Ci£y bench would be far from ideal, seeing him in that red kit with a black armband every other game would boil my pishhh.
Can't we just keep him for 12 more months, then let him go with our blessing if we are not moving forward.That's what I think 100%.
The best and most heart-warming thing he said when he signed his new contract for us was him saying to his missus 'You realise this means our baby will be a Brummie' and saying he was pleased about that.
I will be a bit sad if it transpires that it was bullshit PR bollocks.
FFP is dead in the water now.Fuck football is shit these days when a club can be raped of their players just so another club can fill it's own grown quota. Another well intended idea that is shafting all but the richest clubs up the.....
It sucks, if city are going to try and sign Sterling for £50m who are they selling to meet ffp quota?
The odd thing is, out of Villa, ManCity and Liverpool, Villa came closest to winning a trophy last season.
If Delph goes to ManCity he is 90% certain to be going there to retire from regular football in return for a larger sum of money. He isn't going to displace their regular central midfielders and even allowing for a player's innate self confidence he will know that.
I think delph gets in their team at the moment. But I think they'll buy a bigger name in that position too
Daily Mail are running with another Delph to Man City for £8m story this morning.
Daily Mail are running with another Delph to Man City for £8m story this morning.
Fine, so if Delph sees out the contract that he was on, didn't sign a new one in January and left on a free transfer this summer then you could surely have no complaints?I've read a few people saying delph should look at Sinclair and rodwell.
He should look at Barry and Milner. Both England central midfielders. I docubt either regretted leaving. I think delph could genuinely be as good as Barry. Not Milner though.
Agree with this. Ive no problem with Delph leaving for a better club who are better placed to win things. He has to do whats right for himself.
I am sorry but I am still a believer in a player honouring his contract unless the club does not perform as expected from the time of signing the contract. At which time (say 2 years into a 4 year contract), you request a transfer and the club gets the market value for the player.
Obviously it does not happen like this but it does not stop me thinking less of a player if he holds the club to ransom and the club gets less than they should in a transfer. I hate Bosman for setting in motion what football has become today.
He has stuck to the exact terms of his contract, and we can have no complaints about his conduct.
The Bosman ruling isn't perfect, but it's hundreds of times better than what preceded it.
No, I would not be happy and it all revolves around Bosman. Before this case, how many players allowed their contracts to run down. The ruling for some players at the lower end being held when their contract expires until someone buys them has had a massive game changing effect at the top end.And until it was brought in, players had no control over their own careers and their own futures.
Contrary to it's original purpose, it has lead to the top clubs moving away from the rest, almost as much as the CL.
Because £8M was what Delph / agent were prepared to let be written into the contract?True. But why not stick £15m in ?I'm pretty sure he signed that deal so we'd get something for him. I'm also petty sure he'll leave, it's sad but inevitableIf that were the case it's a shame they didn't raise the price a bit particularly knowing the new TV millions was kicking in. £8m quite frankly is a paltry amount.
It is £8m more than feck all though
The conversation would have been along the lines of
Fox: Well put a £15M release clause in so that there's an easy exit if someone like Man City show an interest.
Agent: Make it £8M or my boy walks for nothing at the end of the season.
Yup, it might well have continued like that.Because £8M was what Delph / agent were prepared to let be written into the contract?True. But why not stick £15m in ?I'm pretty sure he signed that deal so we'd get something for him. I'm also petty sure he'll leave, it's sad but inevitableIf that were the case it's a shame they didn't raise the price a bit particularly knowing the new TV millions was kicking in. £8m quite frankly is a paltry amount.
It is £8m more than feck all though
The conversation would have been along the lines of
Fox: Well put a £15M release clause in so that there's an easy exit if someone like Man City show an interest.
Agent: Make it £8M or my boy walks for nothing at the end of the season.
I just don't buy this argument. Because then it must have continued something like this:
Villa: alright then, but we want to record Fabian's message to the fans.
Agent: Erm, okay then.
Villa: And he must say how loyal he is, how much he loves it here and how he wants to stick with us as we build a better future.
Agent: Okay, can't see any issue with that. Sign here Fab.
No, I would not be happy and it all revolves around Bosman. Before this case, how many players allowed their contracts to run down. The ruling for some players at the lower end being held when their contract expires until someone buys them has had a massive game changing effect at the top end.And until it was brought in, players had no control over their own careers and their own futures.
Contrary to it's original purpose, it has lead to the top clubs moving away from the rest, almost as much as the CL.
A player who was out of contract and wasn't being given a new one wasn't able to play for any other club until a transfer fee had been agreed. If a club was feeling particularly spiteful they could just leave a player uncontracted, underpaid and sitting in their reserves indefinitely with nothing that the player could do about it.
It's such a ridiculous scenario that it's amazing that it took until 1995 to change it.
If Delph does leave this summer because of an artificially low release clause, it's not the fault of the Bosman rule - it's the fault of the club for not sorting his contract out sooner.
I reckon you're closest to the truth.
I reckon you're closest to the truth.
I think we are all hoping it is that. And if it is that's pocket change to a club like Man City so why didn't they just sign him the minute the season was over? England international, right age, English player squad criteria box checked etc
If it's as simple as meeting an £8m release clause then why has the richest club in our league not done it yet?
If there's any release clause at all, I would expect it to be '£8 million if Villa are relegated' seeing as how we were hurtling towards the bottom three at the time of him signing. Journalist gets hold of that figure, twists it into a story to fill column inches, sees it get picked up by every other media outlet, moves onto the next 800 words of bollocks.
If it's as simple as meeting an £8m release clause then why has the richest club in our league not done it yet?
Because I think its a done deal in their mind so where is the rush for them ........
Disappointing but to be honest can you blame Delph? At least he made sure Villa got a fee when he left at same time that his contract would have expired
If it's as simple as meeting an £8m release clause then why has the richest club in our league not done it yet?
Because I think its a done deal in their mind so where is the rush for them ........
Disappointing but to be honest can you blame Delph? At least he made sure Villa got a fee when he left at same time that his contract would have expired
Delph seems to me to be a totally grounded individual. He must see the risk of signing for Man City. His England career hasn't suffered for being a Villa player, it might do though if he's sitting on their bench.
I have no idea what Benteke's thoughts are at the moment, but if he is in two minds about signing for Liverpool or Spurs, his mind would be swiftly made up if Delph buggers off.
It's a depressing thought but without those two next season would be very scary.
I do not go with the 'contrived contract agreement' with both parties knowing that he would leave in the summer and that Delph was being a good boy in allowing Villa to get something out of a deal. In this day and age when secrets last 5 minutes, it seems beyond belief that there would be such duplicity in the magnitude of the announcement of Delph signing a new contract and the facts getting out after the event, causing damage to the image of the player and club. To hype up the announcement to the level they did when it could have been relatively low key and not expect a backlash, would have been naïve to say the least.
Delph seems to me to be a totally grounded individual. He must see the risk of signing for Man City. His England career hasn't suffered for being a Villa player, it might do though if he's sitting on their bench.
I have no idea what Benteke's thoughts are at the moment, but if he is in two minds about signing for Liverpool or Spurs, his mind would be swiftly made up if Delph buggers off.
It's a depressing thought but without those two next season would be very scary.
You really think Spurs would cough for £32.5M? Come back in 5 years when football inflation has made that £20 in today's money.
Liverpool show no sign of offering the release clause, so at the moment whatever thoughts he may have about playing for either of those clubs are about as relevant of any dreams I may still have of being our next No. 9.
If there's any release clause at all, I would expect it to be '£8 million if Villa are relegated' seeing as how we were hurtling towards the bottom three at the time of him signing. Journalist gets hold of that figure, twists it into a story to fill column inches, sees it get picked up by every other media outlet, moves onto the next 800 words of bollocks.
For what it's worth, I think if there is/was a release clause it's more likely to be of that nature.
I was purely arguing about why we wouldn't have been in a position to stipulate a higher figure as Delph and his agent held all of the aces (and the Kings and least 3 Jacks and 2 Queens.)
The reason that I think that there are clauses which basically mean he can leave on his terms is why wouldn't he and his agent ask for that?If there's any release clause at all, I would expect it to be '£8 million if Villa are relegated' seeing as how we were hurtling towards the bottom three at the time of him signing. Journalist gets hold of that figure, twists it into a story to fill column inches, sees it get picked up by every other media outlet, moves onto the next 800 words of bollocks.
For what it's worth, I think if there is/was a release clause it's more likely to be of that nature.
I was purely arguing about why we wouldn't have been in a position to stipulate a higher figure as Delph and his agent held all of the aces (and the Kings and least 3 Jacks and 2 Queens.)
Really not arguing with you mate. It's perfectly possible that there's two release clauses – £8m if relegated, £25m if not. But of course, the higher figure doesn't make such interesting headlines, which is where I think the lower figure has got twisted.
The reason that I think that there are clauses which basically mean he can leave on his terms is why wouldn't he and his agent ask for that?If there's any release clause at all, I would expect it to be '£8 million if Villa are relegated' seeing as how we were hurtling towards the bottom three at the time of him signing. Journalist gets hold of that figure, twists it into a story to fill column inches, sees it get picked up by every other media outlet, moves onto the next 800 words of bollocks.
For what it's worth, I think if there is/was a release clause it's more likely to be of that nature.
I was purely arguing about why we wouldn't have been in a position to stipulate a higher figure as Delph and his agent held all of the aces (and the Kings and least 3 Jacks and 2 Queens.)
Really not arguing with you mate. It's perfectly possible that there's two release clauses – £8m if relegated, £25m if not. But of course, the higher figure doesn't make such interesting headlines, which is where I think the lower figure has got twisted.
If I were in his shoes last January, I would have asked for the clause of a free transfer in the event of our relegation (like Demba Ba had when he left West Ham) and a fairly accommodating release clause if a club with much better prospects than ours came in for him.
When the alternative is him leaving anyway for free, why not have make sure that they are there and from the club's perspective why wouldn't you agree to them?
Even if you plan to stay, you might as well have those options available rather than not.
Wasn't the idea that Fabian felt he owed Lerner from how he treated him in the first couple of years of his contract and that he couldn't just walk away on a free after that. So signing a new contract with a release clause that would be triggered with a bid of £xm being the solution.
That's fine. But the club getting £8m or even £10m is still a very low valuation. Why not £15m which would be more palatable and still below his value. But it's more all of the gushing love after he signed. It will be ring quite hollow if at the first bid meeting the buy out clause he leaves.
In January he held all the cards. Most players would have held out and walked for nothing; this way we get some money at least - probably half his true value, which is a compromise of sorts.
What I still don't get is this clause (if true) existed the minute he signed a new deal. You would think that his agent would have been on the phone to the likes of Man City, Chelsea etc the minute it was signed. Yet it has only been any kind of an issue since Nursey claimed an exclusive. And even then he's still a Villa player a couple of weeks on or whatever it has been. At £8 or £10m there is no way he should still be with us if his intention all along was to leave. Something about it just doesn't add up.
Talk Shite (for what it's worth) were earlier quoting the club as saying they'd received no bids of any kind for Delph.
When all the talk was of Delph leaving for nothing, I was confident that he would not.
I have the same confidence that he won't leave us to sit in the bench at Man City. As good as he is for us, he's currently nowhere near good enough for that level.
'I am a loyal person and committing my future will hopefully show everybody what type of guy I am.
'I feel like this is me - I love the club, I love being here and I want to put 100 per cent into everything I do here. This is my club and I want to be here. That's why I am committing my future.
'Hopefully it will give everyone a bit of a lift and show the fans that we are looking to do big things here and bring excitement back to the club.
'We want to get through this season, do well and I feel the up-and-coming years will be big. There was no way I was going to bail out. I am here for the long run.
'The fans have been the same. I am sure they will stick with us, help us get through this season and then looking into the future, it looks promising to me.'
This is what he said in January:Quote'I am a loyal person and committing my future will hopefully show everybody what type of guy I am.
'I feel like this is me - I love the club, I love being here and I want to put 100 per cent into everything I do here. This is my club and I want to be here. That's why I am committing my future.
'Hopefully it will give everyone a bit of a lift and show the fans that we are looking to do big things here and bring excitement back to the club.
'We want to get through this season, do well and I feel the up-and-coming years will be big. There was no way I was going to bail out. I am here for the long run.
'The fans have been the same. I am sure they will stick with us, help us get through this season and then looking into the future, it looks promising to me.'
Surely there is no way anyone with any integrity can then do the exact opposite 6 months later..
They are just about to start spending by all accounts so perhaps it's more about who else will they buy.Talk Shite (for what it's worth) were earlier quoting the club as saying they'd received no bids of any kind for Delph.
When all the talk was of Delph leaving for nothing, I was confident that he would not.
I have the same confidence that he won't leave us to sit in the bench at Man City. As good as he is for us, he's currently nowhere near good enough for that level.
Which two central midfielders would you play ahead of him, from within the current city squad
I don't get this supposed low release clause. With a quality player like Delph sure to be in demand, and his agent taking his %, why so low?
What I still don't get is this clause (if true) existed the minute he signed a new deal. You would think that his agent would have been on the phone to the likes of Man City, Chelsea etc the minute it was signed. Yet it has only been any kind of an issue since Nursey claimed an exclusive. And even then he's still a Villa player a couple of weeks on or whatever it has been. At £8 or £10m there is no way he should still be with us if his intention all along was to leave. Something about it just doesn't add up.
Wasn't there something in our accounts that said if we were taken over this summer a certain player (believed to be Delph) would get a massive bonus? Would he really have been able to negotiate that as well as an £8m get out clause? I can't see the club being that generous to one player.
Wasn't there something in our accounts that said if we were taken over this summer a certain player (believed to be Delph) would get a massive bonus? Would he really have been able to negotiate that as well as an £8m get out clause? I can't see the club being that generous to one player.That's not going to work in any sort of accounting, legal or indeed reality sense.
Wasn't there something in our accounts that said if we were taken over this summer a certain player (believed to be Delph) would get a massive bonus? Would he really have been able to negotiate that as well as an £8m get out clause? I can't see the club being that generous to one player.
Why would something like that be in end of year accounts?
Wasn't there something in our accounts that said if we were taken over this summer a certain player (believed to be Delph) would get a massive bonus? Would he really have been able to negotiate that as well as an £8m get out clause? I can't see the club being that generous to one player.
Why would something like that be in end of year accounts?
The accounts that will include the new Delph deal haven't been released yet have they? So how can anyone outside of a few at the club know what's in them?
What I still don't get is this clause (if true) existed the minute he signed a new deal. You would think that his agent would have been on the phone to the likes of Man City, Chelsea etc the minute it was signed. Yet it has only been any kind of an issue since Nursey claimed an exclusive. And even then he's still a Villa player a couple of weeks on or whatever it has been. At £8 or £10m there is no way he should still be with us if his intention all along was to leave. Something about it just doesn't add up.
What's to say his agent wasn't on the phone the minute it was signed?
Even if he did start looking for a move for him there and then, there's no guarantee that it would have surfaced by now. Look at how long Vlaar's agent will have been looking for a deal for him, and he's now officially without a club, this a player who had an excellent world cup the summer before.
The thing about the release figure is it is basically suggested that he signed the deal with the low release fee as a way to ensure we got some money for him rather than watching him walk away. Given that, there's no reason why it shouldn't have been 8 or 10 million. Delph - assuming this is what went on - will have wanted the club not to lose out, but also not to make it too hard for him to get a decent move. Given that, it is easy to see why the figure might be so low.
However, I agree with Chris, I think the entire thing is a load of absolute horseshit. To do such a volte face now, after what he said a few months ago, would be a staggering display of turncoatery, even in an industry which is famed for it.
Like you mentioned, this whole thing also came from James Nursey, who is hardly the most accurate of sports journalists (and that's putting it lightly).
Who is Delphi agent ? Any previous ?
As there is no proof that Delph wants to go, or that there is a release clause, i'll not lose any sleep over it.Based on his own words , he's going nowhere,
And even if he does go, we'll be Xmillion better off than just about anyone thought we would be 6 months ago, as hardly anyone thought he'd sign a new contract.
I'm not one for calling for the club to comment on all speculation. But if there isn't a release clause surely it would be in everyone's interests to nip this one in the bud?
Surely you have answered your own question?
Wasn't there something in our accounts that said if we were taken over this summer a certain player (believed to be Delph) would get a massive bonus? Would he really have been able to negotiate that as well as an £8m get out clause? I can't see the club being that generous to one player.
Why would something like that be in end of year accounts?
''The fans have stuck by since day one. The chairman's stuck by me, he's been unbelievable with me. The gaffer's been great as well.Powerful stuff; thanks for posting as a reminder.
'I'm proving that there still is loyalty in football. I've decided to stay here and I'll give nothing less than 100 per cent every game.
'I'd love you guys to get behind us and support the boys.'
Speaking to Villa's official website, he added: 'The club has given me a great platform to perform and a great opportunity to showcase what I can do.
'The fans have been great with me, the chairman has been absolutely fantastic with me and I have a great relationship with the manager and I see the boys here as my brothers, my family and I am delighted to stay here.
'I am a loyal person and committing my future will hopefully show everybody what type of guy I am.
'I feel like this is me - I love the club, I love being here and I want to put 100 per cent into everything I do here. This is my club and I want to be here. That's why I am committing my future.
'Hopefully it will give everyone a bit of a lift and show the fans that we are looking to do big things here and bring excitement back to the club.
'We want to get through this season, do well and I feel the up-and-coming years will be big. There was no way I was going to bail out. I am here for the long run.
'The fans have been the same. I am sure they will stick with us, help us get through this season and then looking into the future, it looks promising to me.'
Odd to say all this, knowing you've got a ridiculously low release clause that will almost certainly be activated within 3 or 4 months of these comments.
In other actual news...I might consider cutting my lawn today, however this is purely speculation at this stage.You need to show a reasonable amount of loyalty to the current grass. After all it has stood by you for few weeks. That has to be valued and respected rather than tossed away in the green bin. If you do decide to go ahead I think you need to consider mulching rather than collection. It is the new trend.
Sadly I think he will go. This story ahs been out there for about a week now, and there's be no denial from the club or the player. Unfortunately, due to the state of English football at the moment, you dont have to play regularly to get in the England squad if yo play for a big club, look at Milner.''The fans have stuck by since day one. The chairman's stuck by me, he's been unbelievable with me. The gaffer's been great as well.Powerful stuff; thanks for posting as a reminder.
'I'm proving that there still is loyalty in football. I've decided to stay here and I'll give nothing less than 100 per cent every game.
'I'd love you guys to get behind us and support the boys.'
Speaking to Villa's official website, he added: 'The club has given me a great platform to perform and a great opportunity to showcase what I can do.
'The fans have been great with me, the chairman has been absolutely fantastic with me and I have a great relationship with the manager and I see the boys here as my brothers, my family and I am delighted to stay here.
'I am a loyal person and committing my future will hopefully show everybody what type of guy I am.
'I feel like this is me - I love the club, I love being here and I want to put 100 per cent into everything I do here. This is my club and I want to be here. That's why I am committing my future.
'Hopefully it will give everyone a bit of a lift and show the fans that we are looking to do big things here and bring excitement back to the club.
'We want to get through this season, do well and I feel the up-and-coming years will be big. There was no way I was going to bail out. I am here for the long run.
'The fans have been the same. I am sure they will stick with us, help us get through this season and then looking into the future, it looks promising to me.'
Odd to say all this, knowing you've got a ridiculously low release clause that will almost certainly be activated within 3 or 4 months of these comments.
Do you genuinely that - given this - he will "almost certainly" leave? Now that we have avoided relegation, I think he may well give it another season, to see how things pan out. There may well be more money for him if we get taken over, and - like Benteke - Villa gives him a place to play regular football before the Euros.
Where's this £8M release clause come from?James Nursey broke the story apparently: linky thing (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/manchester-city-eye-transfer-aston-5954973?)
Sadly I think he will go. This story ahs been out there for about a week now, and there's be no denial from the club or the player. Unfortunately, due to the state of English football at the moment, you dont have to play regularly to get in the England squad if yo play for a big club, look at Milner.''The fans have stuck by since day one. The chairman's stuck by me, he's been unbelievable with me. The gaffer's been great as well.Powerful stuff; thanks for posting as a reminder.
'I'm proving that there still is loyalty in football. I've decided to stay here and I'll give nothing less than 100 per cent every game.
'I'd love you guys to get behind us and support the boys.'
Speaking to Villa's official website, he added: 'The club has given me a great platform to perform and a great opportunity to showcase what I can do.
'The fans have been great with me, the chairman has been absolutely fantastic with me and I have a great relationship with the manager and I see the boys here as my brothers, my family and I am delighted to stay here.
'I am a loyal person and committing my future will hopefully show everybody what type of guy I am.
'I feel like this is me - I love the club, I love being here and I want to put 100 per cent into everything I do here. This is my club and I want to be here. That's why I am committing my future.
'Hopefully it will give everyone a bit of a lift and show the fans that we are looking to do big things here and bring excitement back to the club.
'We want to get through this season, do well and I feel the up-and-coming years will be big. There was no way I was going to bail out. I am here for the long run.
'The fans have been the same. I am sure they will stick with us, help us get through this season and then looking into the future, it looks promising to me.'
Odd to say all this, knowing you've got a ridiculously low release clause that will almost certainly be activated within 3 or 4 months of these comments.
Do you genuinely that - given this - he will "almost certainly" leave? Now that we have avoided relegation, I think he may well give it another season, to see how things pan out. There may well be more money for him if we get taken over, and - like Benteke - Villa gives him a place to play regular football before the Euros.
I'm not one for calling for the club to comment on all speculation. But if there isn't a release clause surely it would be in everyone's interests to nip this one in the bud?t
Sadly I think he will go. This story ahs been out there for about a week now, and there's be no denial from the club or the player. Unfortunately, due to the state of English football at the moment, you dont have to play regularly to get in the England squad if yo play for a big club, look at Milner.''The fans have stuck by since day one. The chairman's stuck by me, he's been unbelievable with me. The gaffer's been great as well.Powerful stuff; thanks for posting as a reminder.
'I'm proving that there still is loyalty in football. I've decided to stay here and I'll give nothing less than 100 per cent every game.
'I'd love you guys to get behind us and support the boys.'
Speaking to Villa's official website, he added: 'The club has given me a great platform to perform and a great opportunity to showcase what I can do.
'The fans have been great with me, the chairman has been absolutely fantastic with me and I have a great relationship with the manager and I see the boys here as my brothers, my family and I am delighted to stay here.
'I am a loyal person and committing my future will hopefully show everybody what type of guy I am.
'I feel like this is me - I love the club, I love being here and I want to put 100 per cent into everything I do here. This is my club and I want to be here. That's why I am committing my future.
'Hopefully it will give everyone a bit of a lift and show the fans that we are looking to do big things here and bring excitement back to the club.
'We want to get through this season, do well and I feel the up-and-coming years will be big. There was no way I was going to bail out. I am here for the long run.
'The fans have been the same. I am sure they will stick with us, help us get through this season and then looking into the future, it looks promising to me.'
Odd to say all this, knowing you've got a ridiculously low release clause that will almost certainly be activated within 3 or 4 months of these comments.
Do you genuinely that - given this - he will "almost certainly" leave? Now that we have avoided relegation, I think he may well give it another season, to see how things pan out. There may well be more money for him if we get taken over, and - like Benteke - Villa gives him a place to play regular football before the Euros.
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If Delph was a first choice option for Man City & as cheap as this supposed clause, surely they'd have snapped him up by now. He might be a 2nd or 3rd option if their preferred targets can't be got or a signing to bring up their British quota.
If he does end up there, he'll need to perform at a much higher level than he has done for us to get games.
If Delph was a first choice option for Man City & as cheap as this supposed clause, surely they'd have snapped him up by now. He might be a 2nd or 3rd option if their preferred targets can't be got or a signing to bring up their British quota.
If he does end up there, he'll need to perform at a much higher level than he has done for us to get games.
I think the "British Quota" stuff for Man City is being massively overstated by a lot of the press right now. I fully expect them to sign players because they think they'll improve the squad rather than just hoovering up 'home grown' players (which isn't the same as british anyway and includes anyone they've signed from abroad who was 18 or younger when they arrived) I think they're more likely to look towards their reserves to fill those gaps and it will be players like Stirling that they look to up those numbers as potential starters. If they sign Delph it will be because he's a good player not because he's British.
My understanding of this home grown rule is that they need to be squad players rather than starting XI, so in theory they could just use academy players in the squad rather than spending millions on other clubs English players...really doesn't make much business sense to do the latter unless a rule is introduced that a number of players in the starting XI need to be homegrown.
My understanding of this home grown rule is that they need to be squad players rather than starting XI, so in theory they could just use academy players in the squad rather than spending millions on other clubs English players...really doesn't make much business sense to do the latter unless a rule is introduced that a number of players in the starting XI need to be homegrown.
Isn't the rule for CL squads something like 25 players with a certain number of homegrown players? I think out of that 25 you'd want as many of them as possible to actually be capable of stepping in when required of them, as opposed to pure filler.
Then again, City have apparently poured tons of money into their academy, so you'd think their academy would have at least a couple of players who are ready to make the step up now.
My understanding of this home grown rule is that they need to be squad players rather than starting XI, so in theory they could just use academy players in the squad rather than spending millions on other clubs English players...really doesn't make much business sense to do the latter unless a rule is introduced that a number of players in the starting XI need to be homegrown.
Isn't the rule for CL squads something like 25 players with a certain number of homegrown players? I think out of that 25 you'd want as many of them as possible to actually be capable of stepping in when required of them, as opposed to pure filler, which could be why Delph might be attractive: because you know at least that you could throw him in the fray and he'll provide energy and the occasional bit of magic going forward.
Then again, City have apparently poured tons of money into their academy, so you'd think their academy would have at least a couple of players who are ready to make the step up now.
One of those three that they have is already making up the numbers - Richard Wright isn't really going to see much first-team action. There's no point filling spaces in the 25 with players from their academy, anybody under the age of 21 can be used anyway without taking up space in the squad of 25.My understanding of this home grown rule is that they need to be squad players rather than starting XI, so in theory they could just use academy players in the squad rather than spending millions on other clubs English players...really doesn't make much business sense to do the latter unless a rule is introduced that a number of players in the starting XI need to be homegrown.
Isn't the rule for CL squads something like 25 players with a certain number of homegrown players? I think out of that 25 you'd want as many of them as possible to actually be capable of stepping in when required of them, as opposed to pure filler.
Then again, City have apparently poured tons of money into their academy, so you'd think their academy would have at least a couple of players who are ready to make the step up now.
Which is the point really. They need 8, they have 3 already, so I can see a couple of big signings who will be active in the first team (Stirling, Wilshere, maybe Delph) and then 2-3 players from their reserves making up numbers
The logic for joining Citeh is nowhere near as strong other than £££.
One of those three that they have is already making up the numbers - Richard Wright isn't really going to see much first-team action. There's no point filling spaces in the 25 with players from their academy, anybody under the age of 21 can be used anyway without taking up space in the squad of 25.My understanding of this home grown rule is that they need to be squad players rather than starting XI, so in theory they could just use academy players in the squad rather than spending millions on other clubs English players...really doesn't make much business sense to do the latter unless a rule is introduced that a number of players in the starting XI need to be homegrown.
Isn't the rule for CL squads something like 25 players with a certain number of homegrown players? I think out of that 25 you'd want as many of them as possible to actually be capable of stepping in when required of them, as opposed to pure filler.
Then again, City have apparently poured tons of money into their academy, so you'd think their academy would have at least a couple of players who are ready to make the step up now.
Which is the point really. They need 8, they have 3 already, so I can see a couple of big signings who will be active in the first team (Stirling, Wilshere, maybe Delph) and then 2-3 players from their reserves making up numbers
The don't have any other "reserves" to make up the numbers as they literally don't have anybody else on their books who qualifies apart from Wright, Hart and Clichy.
They will either be signing five players who qualify as home-grown this summer or submitting a squad of less than 25 players. There isn't a third option.
If he joins Ci£y I'd say his euro spot is in the line.
True, well he'd probably risk England starter to sitting on the bench at the euros .If he joins Ci£y I'd say his euro spot is in the line.
I'm not sure about that. Milner got into every england squad whilst he was there.
True, well he'd probably risk England starter to sitting on the bench at the euros .If he joins Ci£y I'd say his euro spot is in the line.
I'm not sure about that. Milner got into every england squad whilst he was there.
89 starts and 58 sub appearances in the league. 36 and 18 in cups. According to Soccerbase anyway.See for someone of Milners ability , a season and a half sat on the bench is such a waste .
If I was a player, i'd rather have those stats and a bunch of trophies that I played a decent part in helping win, than 150 starts and sod all to show for it. It would be different if he was never playing but he's played in at least two thirds of their league games every season he was there.Put it like that I think you're right. I suppose that's what Delph will want to achieve ultimately.
If he joins Ci£y I'd say his euro spot is in the line.
I'm not sure about that. Milner got into every england squad whilst he was there.
If I was a player, i'd rather have those stats and a bunch of trophies that I played a decent part in helping win, than 150 starts and sod all to show for it. It would be different if he was never playing but he's played in at least two thirds of their league games every season he was there.Put it like that I think you're right. I suppose that's what Delph will want to achieve ultimately.
Yeah. Plus one of Milner and delph is currently first choice for England. And it isn't Milner.
This.Yeah. Plus one of Milner and delph is currently first choice for England. And it isn't Milner.
I really like Delph. But I really loved Milner.
I don't think many non Villa fans would understand how anyone could think this, but it wasn't losing Downing and Young that tore the heart out of our side, it was losing Milner.
Yes, Delph is a current first choice, but only in the sense that he's played in six games for England. I don't know to what degree that makes you a first choice.
Milner has played for England 54 times and is also in the current England set up.
They're both excellent players.
When Milner went off in that late summer West Ham game I was gutted. He'd scored a beauty was MOTM and it was all over.
You're right, we never recovered from losing Milner, he was a power house for us and it annoys how the media see him as a utility worker type player, he is far better than that. Delph is our driving force for right now, on his day (and that's most days) he would be a massive loss for most teams.
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Moving him to CM was a master stroke/gamble that worked.
He thrived and flourished in that role and he developed as a much more balanced and influential player. (which is probably why ManCi£y bought his services)
The team played better because of it. When he left he was a very big loss to that midfield area and we have really struggled to replace him - in fact, we haven't replaced him and have struggled as a consequence.
I think (hope) Fab will stay.
Going back to the alleged release clause. Delph must have known we weren't going to be CL contenders anytime soon which makes it even more bizarre that he would commit himself so wholly with the magnitude of the statement that he issued. He could have played it down, and still been loved for staying. I simply refuse to believe this rumour.
When Milner went off in that late summer West Ham game I was gutted. He'd scored a beauty was MOTM and it was all over.I fucking love the bloke. I'd swap Benteke AND Delph to get Milner back, without pausing to think about it.
When Milner went off in that late summer West Ham game I was gutted. He'd scored a beauty was MOTM and it was all over.I fucking love the bloke. I'd swap Benteke AND Delph to get Milner back, without pausing to think about it.
Now that's just silly.
When Milner went off in that late summer West Ham game I was gutted. He'd scored a beauty was MOTM and it was all over.
And he looked gutted when he'd scored, too, sad that he was offski.
I fucking love the bloke. I'd swap Benteke AND Delph to get Milner back, without pausing to think about it.
Instant heart transplant. We lost a lot of that from Petrov (after his first season of struggle), and more with Milner. An injection of heart into this side would make a huge difference.
The bold bit is the important bit, they could sign some of the top rated youngsters in europe to be the squad squad filler without having to name them in the 25. By reserves I mean lads that have been there for a few years and not broken through but are moving out of the academy age group. They may as well keep a few of those types of players around for now having backed themselves into a hole with the squad, if you need filler is it better to keep those guys or sign players like Sinclair who end up fed up and looking to get away?
I don't know the options they have but I think this idea that they'll 100% be going out to buy in 5 players to fill the quota just feels like bullshit to me but I've seen it used as justification for all kinds of nonsense rumours this summer.You don't think that they might be written by people who DO know the options that they have and therefore know that this is an actual thing?
If I was a player, i'd rather have those stats and a bunch of trophies that I played a decent part in helping win, than 150 starts and sod all to show for it. It would be different if he was never playing but he's played in at least two thirds of their league games every season he was there.
He's the most natural replacement to Gerrard (how he used to play) that they could have got - if they play him in the centre.
If I was a player, i'd rather have those stats and a bunch of trophies that I played a decent part in helping win, than 150 starts and sod all to show for it. It would be different if he was never playing but he's played in at least two thirds of their league games every season he was there.
Clearly not enough for Milner. He could have stayed on at Man City and won far more there than what he is going to win at Liverpool.
If I was a player, i'd rather have those stats and a bunch of trophies that I played a decent part in helping win, than 150 starts and sod all to show for it. It would be different if he was never playing but he's played in at least two thirds of their league games every season he was there.
Clearly not enough for Milner. He could have stayed on at Man City and won far more there than what he is going to win at Liverpool.
Or as he's already got a bunch of winner medals he's happy to try something else. Maybe he's been promised a run as a CM plus the chance to win things. It's not like he's joined Stoke.
Regardless of why he left, his time at City has been a success for him and he's been a regular part of a side competing at the top level and winning trophies.
The bold bit is the important bit, they could sign some of the top rated youngsters in europe to be the squad squad filler without having to name them in the 25. By reserves I mean lads that have been there for a few years and not broken through but are moving out of the academy age group. They may as well keep a few of those types of players around for now having backed themselves into a hole with the squad, if you need filler is it better to keep those guys or sign players like Sinclair who end up fed up and looking to get away?
Keep those guys. Obviously. What you seem to be completely ignoring though is that in Man City's case "those guys" don't exist. When I said that the only people currently on Man City's books who meet the necessary criteria are Hart, Clichy and Wright, I didn't mean "Hart, Clichy, Wright and a bunch of other players from their reserves". It's literally those three.I don't know the options they have but I think this idea that they'll 100% be going out to buy in 5 players to fill the quota just feels like bullshit to me but I've seen it used as justification for all kinds of nonsense rumours this summer.You don't think that they might be written by people who DO know the options that they have and therefore know that this is an actual thing?
They might not go out and buy five more home-grown players, but like I said - if they don't they'll be submitting a squad of fewer than 25 players. Which is fine, there's no problem in them doing that. But those are literally the only two options available to them.
This is the article I was on about. Oh what could have been...
James Milner article (http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2015/jul/05/james-milner-liverpool-central-midfield-brendan-rodgers-manchester-city-aston-villa)
As I say I fully expect them to add some, but only players who can improve their first 18, it's the idea that they'd sign HG players who don't even get into the matchday squad just for the quota that I'm arguing against.
This is the article I was on about. Oh what could have been...
James Milner article (http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2015/jul/05/james-milner-liverpool-central-midfield-brendan-rodgers-manchester-city-aston-villa)
Also a timely reminder that his best form in a Villa shirt came from Dec-May in his last season, he was a typical run all day on the wing type player before then and since. Never understand the adulation he gets on here compared to the likes of Barry and Young who delivered far more for us. Downing had a similar purple patch for half a season for us but is roundly abused.
If Delph does leave as seems certain, he will be a far more wealthier man but his first choice starting midfield spot at the Euros could be under threat due to lack of regular football. Would love if he stayed but moving from perennial relegation battlers to perennial title contenders is a no brainer really. He has a lot to be thankful to Paul Lambert for, many managers would have sold Delph off to a championship club when he was really struggling.
As I say I fully expect them to add some, but only players who can improve their first 18, it's the idea that they'd sign HG players who don't even get into the matchday squad just for the quota that I'm arguing against.
I suppose the problem that City will face, will be finding HG players who will improve their match-day 18. Sterling and Delph (debatable) aside, who else can they realistically get?
If Delph does leave as seems certainSince when has it become a certainty? Last I heard it was just another speculative rumour created by one media outlet and doing the rounds from one to the next. I think Delph is more likely to stay than Benteke but both are under contract and are far from certain to go anywhere.
As I say I fully expect them to add some, but only players who can improve their first 18, it's the idea that they'd sign HG players who don't even get into the matchday squad just for the quota that I'm arguing against.
I suppose the problem that City will face, will be finding HG players who will improve their match-day 18. Sterling and Delph (debatable) aside, who else can they realistically get?
Exactly my point, even if I've not made it well over the last couple of pages.
This is the article I was on about. Oh what could have been...
James Milner article (http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2015/jul/05/james-milner-liverpool-central-midfield-brendan-rodgers-manchester-city-aston-villa)
Also a timely reminder that his best form in a Villa shirt came from Dec-May in his last season, he was a typical run all day on the wing type player before then and since. Never understand the adulation he gets on here compared to the likes of Barry and Young who delivered far more for us. Downing had a similar purple patch for half a season for us but is roundly abused.
If Delph does leave as seems certain, he will be a far more wealthier man but his first choice starting midfield spot at the Euros could be under threat due to lack of regular football. Would love if he stayed but moving from perennial relegation battlers to perennial title contenders is a no brainer really. He has a lot to be thankful to Paul Lambert for, many managers would have sold Delph off to a championship club when he was really struggling.
In what way is Delph certainly leaving?
Downing gets stick because he was/is a massive wimp.
Young gets stick because he dives a lot. I hated it when he was playing for us. He has painted his own target on his back.
Hope Benteke goes somewhere better than Liverpool, thought the likes of United and better clubs in Europe would have been publicly interested in him. Juventus having lost Tevez need a forward, could be the ideal club for him or Athletico Madrid with Mandzukic looking to leave.No dice on those two. Juventus have signed Dybala from Palermo and Mandzukic.
Hope Benteke goes somewhere better than Liverpool, thought the likes of United and better clubs in Europe would have been publicly interested in him. Juventus having lost Tevez need a forward, could be the ideal club for him or Athletico Madrid with Mandzukic looking to leave.No dice on those two. Juventus have signed Dybala from Palermo and Mandzukic.
Athletico have replaced him with Jackson Martinez from Porto and Luciano Vietto from Villareal.
Too much time wasted on FIFA 15 and reading stuff online, combined with a brain that seems to retain very little apart from football and film trivia.
The diving is the only thing I have against Young. Pissed me off when he was with us, after one of his theatrical falls, if you heard someone shout "get up you fucking tart" it could well have been me.
And my issue with Barry has always been that NOTW article. I'll always think he's wanker for doing that.
Hope Benteke goes somewhere better than Liverpool, thought the likes of United and better clubs in Europe would have been publicly interested in him. Juventus having lost Tevez need a forward, could be the ideal club for him or Athletico Madrid with Mandzukic looking to leave.No dice on those two. Juventus have signed Dybala from Palermo and Mandzukic.
Athletico have replaced him with Jackson Martinez from Porto and Luciano Vietto from Villareal.
Delph looked completely at ease and joking around in the video of the training.
Have to say, I'm not even slightly worried that Delph might leave.
I'll be genuinely astonished if he does.
But if they did, you still believe he'll stay ?
But if they did, you still believe he'll stay ?No. I think as soon as man from City waves his little finger he will be straight out of the door and onboard the next Megabus leaving for Manchester.
Have to say, I'm not even slightly worried that Delph might leave.
I'll be genuinely astonished if he does.
Why would you be astonished ? If City do come in for him, he'll be straight up there imo.
I wouldn't trust any professional footballer.
Have to say, I'm not even slightly worried that Delph might leave.
I'll be genuinely astonished if he does.
Why would you be astonished ? If City do come in for him, he'll be straight up there imo.
Delph always strikes me as football who has the intelligence to see from the likes of Scott Sinclair that moving to a club like City doesn't necessarily provide a boost to a player's career.
He's made it into the England starting XI as a Villa player, and he's smart enough to know it's not worth disrupting that in a tournament year.
Add to that his strong words about loyalty and the fact that he's rocked up at training a week early, and I just can't fathom why everyone seems so edgy about it.
The hand-wringing over this is beyond belief.
Low release clauses I'll give you Delphs if one exists lets not ignore that the press are reporting that Benteke is going to tell the club this week he wants to leave, dispite them reporting weeks ago that he'd already told the club that. But is £32.5 million for Benteke a low price? I think it's rather good tbh when you consider 3 years ago he was worth £7 million.
Delph always strikes me as football who has the intelligence to see from the likes of Scott Sinclair that moving to a club like City doesn't necessarily provide a boost to a player's career.It didn't really ruin it though either, did it?
Delph always strikes me as football who has the intelligence to see from the likes of Scott Sinclair that moving to a club like City doesn't necessarily provide a boost to a player's career.It didn't really ruin it though either, did it?
He had a couple of decent years at Swansea (one in a lower division), moved to Man City, gave it a go and when it didn't work out he then moved on to a bigger club than the one that he left in order to join Man City in the first place.
Like spending a couple of years at Chelsea didn't really ruin Steve Sidwell's career. Picked up more money and a couple of medals and was still able to move from there to a top six club which would have been the alternative at the time when leaving Reading.
But if they did, you still believe he'll stay ?
Yes. I trust him. What he said when he signed the contract goes above and beyond what he needed to say. That we're in a year when players are competing for places at the Euros also changes things slightly as well.
He'd be an idiot to leave and I don't think he's an idiot.
Delph will be a Villa player on the 1st of September 2015 (or whatever is the day after the window shuts). Mark my words.
Delph always strikes me as football who has the intelligence to see from the likes of Scott Sinclair that moving to a club like City doesn't necessarily provide a boost to a player's career.It didn't really ruin it though either, did it?
He had a couple of decent years at Swansea (one in a lower division), moved to Man City, gave it a go and when it didn't work out he then moved on to a bigger club than the one that he left in order to join Man City in the first place.
Like spending a couple of years at Chelsea didn't really ruin Steve Sidwell's career. Picked up more money and a couple of medals and was still able to move from there to a top six club which would have been the alternative at the time when leaving Reading.
Delph always strikes me as football who has the intelligence to see from the likes of Scott Sinclair that moving to a club like City doesn't necessarily provide a boost to a player's career.It didn't really ruin it though either, did it?
He had a couple of decent years at Swansea (one in a lower division), moved to Man City, gave it a go and when it didn't work out he then moved on to a bigger club than the one that he left in order to join Man City in the first place.
Like spending a couple of years at Chelsea didn't really ruin Steve Sidwell's career. Picked up more money and a couple of medals and was still able to move from there to a top six club which would have been the alternative at the time when leaving Reading.
But if they did, you still believe he'll stay ?
Yes. I trust him. What he said when he signed the contract goes above and beyond what he needed to say. That we're in a year when players are competing for places at the Euros also changes things slightly as well.
He'd be an idiot to leave and I don't think he's an idiot.
Delph will be a Villa player on the 1st of September 2015 (or whatever is the day after the window shuts). Mark my words.
Of course it was above and beyond what was needed to say. But ultimately if he was absolutely certain of staying why insert the clause at all. Assuming that clause exists and what's been written about it is true then it wasn't a relegation release clause. So he wanted that clause to be in place even if we survived relegation and that implies he probably would be off if the clause is activated. As I say it's all guess work, but if that clause exists there is a reason it's there.
I know he said what he did when he signed his contract, and I'm sure he meant it at the time, but I wouldn't blame him if he left. He will treble his pay, get a juicy signing on fee and secure his family's future until the 22nd century.
Or stay for our relegation struggle and play for England for 3 games this time next year. He might not even do that if another unheard of Spurs player emerges next Spring.
Te-ra-a-bit Fabian.
You're right £33.5 million is peanuts we should have put a buyout clause the same cost as Cristiano Ronaldo or Bale maybe
You're right £33.5 million is peanuts we should have put a buyout clause the same cost as Cristiano Ronaldo or Bale maybe
Yes, of course, but then if you do that he might not want to sign the contract in the first place, so you need to come to something of a compromise.
I don't think it's a particularly low fee anyway, given it was come to when the player had just had a first good season after a £7m transfer.
If 49 goals in 101 games involves going missing for chunks of 3 seasons, then we need to sign more like him. Injuries, playing when not fully fit, and playing in one of the most boring teams in the league for 3 years, and yet he still averages 1 in 2......what more do you want?
I wouldn't have thought Pogba would affect any deal for delph, there aren't many homegrown players of delphs quality available at his release clause price, its pennies to them.Of course it would. Delph would fancy himself to out fernando or fernandinho in the centre of their MF to partner Yaya but would he fancy himself to keep a 70m record signing on the bench? I doubt it very much. I dont think he is the sort of person who would be happy starting 5-10 games a season
I wouldn't have thought Pogba would affect any deal for delph, there aren't many homegrown players of delphs quality available at his release clause price, its pennies to them.Of course it would. Delph would fancy himself to out fernando or fernandinho in the centre of their MF to partner Yaya but would he fancy himself to keep a 70m record signing on the bench? I doubt it very much. I dont think he is the sort of person who would be happy starting 5-10 games a season
Our best hope is citeh sign pogba asap
I think those comments from Richards can pretty much end the debate about whether Delph is considering leaving, he clearly is. We've just got to hope he decides against it now.I'm normally a miserable old bugger, but I'm reading between the lines that Richards has told him to think twice about joining them.
I think those comments from Richards can pretty much end the debate about whether Delph is considering leaving, he clearly is. We've just got to hope he decides against it now.I'm normally a miserable old bugger, but I'm reading between the lines that Richards has told him to think twice about joining them.
Our best hope is citeh sign pogba asap
Just about to post the same, sure Barcelona are out because of their ban. Not sure about Real - they normally buy the hottest player every year
I spoke to somoene yesterday who knows Fabian pretty well and he doesn't think he's leaving from what he's said to him.That's good enough for me.
No Delph on the plane to Portugal.
No Delph on the plane to Portugal.
Stayed behind as his wife is expecting
Another Birmingham Mail wind up
Another Birmingham Mail wind up
Captain Fabian Delph has not travelled out with the Aston Villa squad for their pre season training camp in Portugal.
Tim Sherwood's men jetted off without the skipper from Birmingham airport this morning for their warm weather getaway in the Algarve.
But Delph's absence is believed to be because his wife Natalie is expecting their second child, rather than having anything to do with ongoing speculation linking him with a move to Manchester City. The couple already have a young daughter, Sofia.
Very good!No Delph on the plane to Portugal.
Stayed behind as his wife is expecting
Expecting a call from Manchester
Another Birmingham Mail wind up
They really are a bunch of shit stirring cock sockets.
Underneath this headline
Aston Villa captain Fabian Delph has NOT jetted out with squad for Portugal training trip
You find this.QuoteCaptain Fabian Delph has not travelled out with the Aston Villa squad for their pre season training camp in Portugal.
Tim Sherwood's men jetted off without the skipper from Birmingham airport this morning for their warm weather getaway in the Algarve.
But Delph's absence is believed to be because his wife Natalie is expecting their second child, rather than having anything to do with ongoing speculation linking him with a move to Manchester City. The couple already have a young daughter, Sofia.
It's clickbait, innit?
I'm surprised they don't just move to headlines like:
"Passengers at Birmingham airport couldn't believe what they didn't see today! Click to find out..."
Another Birmingham Mail wind up
They really are a bunch of shit stirring cock sockets.
Underneath this headline
Aston Villa captain Fabian Delph has NOT jetted out with squad for Portugal training trip
You find this.QuoteCaptain Fabian Delph has not travelled out with the Aston Villa squad for their pre season training camp in Portugal.
Tim Sherwood's men jetted off without the skipper from Birmingham airport this morning for their warm weather getaway in the Algarve.
But Delph's absence is believed to be because his wife Natalie is expecting their second child, rather than having anything to do with ongoing speculation linking him with a move to Manchester City. The couple already have a young daughter, Sofia.
The problem is I am not sure where Birmingham Post is put together and for sure "copy" staff have no affiliation whatsoever with the City or clubs. Wankers any how!
The Villa Page in the online Mail is woeful , they know less than me or you , and they try and bamboozle you
with comment and rumour that they have stolen from other rags.
It is a lot of nothing
The problem is I am not sure where Birmingham Post is put together and for sure "copy" staff have no affiliation whatsoever with the City or clubs. Wankers any how!
It's put together at Fort Dunlop. You can't get any more Birmingham than that.
The problem is I am not sure where Birmingham Post is put together and for sure "copy" staff have no affiliation whatsoever with the City or clubs. Wankers any how!
It's put together at Fort Dunlop. You can't get any more Birmingham than that.
Going off topic a bit, there were some great ariel shots over Fort Dunlop in the 1920's, and there was literally nothing around it for miles.
The problem is I am not sure where Birmingham Post is put together and for sure "copy" staff have no affiliation whatsoever with the City or clubs. Wankers any how!
It's put together at Fort Dunlop. You can't get any more Birmingham than that.
Going off topic a bit, there were some great ariel shots over Fort Dunlop in the 1920's, and there was literally nothing around it for miles.
Found it:
(http://i3.birminghammail.co.uk/incoming/article7382926.ece/ALTERNATES/s1227b/CV9b.jpg)
Betting suspended on him going to Man CityWell thats nicely reassuringly positive.
Dale Tempest @SkyBet_Dale 14m14 minutes ago
we @SkyBet have suspended on Delph to City looks like its moving I guess the next move will be villa relegated if Benteke goes
Betting suspended on him going to Man City
Dale Tempest @SkyBet_Dale 14m14 minutes ago
we @SkyBet have suspended on Delph to City looks like its moving I guess the next move will be villa relegated if Benteke goes
Betting suspended on him going to Man City
Dale Tempest @SkyBet_Dale 14m14 minutes ago
we @SkyBet have suspended on Delph to City looks like its moving I guess the next move will be villa relegated if Benteke goes
Betting suspended on him going to Man City
Dale Tempest @SkyBet_Dale 14m14 minutes ago
we @SkyBet have suspended on Delph to City looks like its moving I guess the next move will be villa relegated if Benteke goes
I think it's explained on here before, something like because the market us so small, the bookies have to close it in case Barry doesn't take the penalty.
Betting suspended on him going to Man CityWell thats nicely reassuringly positive.
Dale Tempest @SkyBet_Dale 14m14 minutes ago
we @SkyBet have suspended on Delph to City looks like its moving I guess the next move will be villa relegated if Benteke goes
Betting suspended on him going to Man CityWell thats nicely reassuringly positive.
Dale Tempest @SkyBet_Dale 14m14 minutes ago
we @SkyBet have suspended on Delph to City looks like its moving I guess the next move will be villa relegated if Benteke goes
And unreassuringly accurate too
Betting suspended on him going to Man CityWell thats nicely reassuringly positive.
Dale Tempest @SkyBet_Dale 14m14 minutes ago
we @SkyBet have suspended on Delph to City looks like its moving I guess the next move will be villa relegated if Benteke goes
And unreassuringly accurate too
Betting suspended on him going to Man CityWell thats nicely reassuringly positive.
Dale Tempest @SkyBet_Dale 14m14 minutes ago
we @SkyBet have suspended on Delph to City looks like its moving I guess the next move will be villa relegated if Benteke goes
And unreassuringly accurate too
Good to see you're back on form.
'The fans have stuck by since day one. The chairman's stuck by me, he's been unbelievable with me. The gaffer's been great as well.
'I'm proving that there still is loyalty in football. I've decided to stay here and I'll give nothing less than 100 per cent every game.
'I'd love you guys to get behind us and support the boys.'
Speaking to Villa's official website, he added: 'The club has given me a great platform to perform and a great opportunity to showcase what I can do.
'The fans have been great with me, the chairman has been absolutely fantastic with me and I have a great relationship with the manager and I see the boys here as my brothers, my family and I am delighted to stay here.
'I am a loyal person and committing my future will hopefully show everybody what type of guy I am.
'I feel like this is me - I love the club, I love being here and I want to put 100 per cent into everything I do here. This is my club and I want to be here. That's why I am committing my future.
Hopefully it will give everyone a bit of a lift and show the fans that we are looking to do big things here and bring excitement back to the club.
'We want to get through this season, do well and I feel the up-and-coming years will be big. There was no way I was going to bail out. I am here for the long run.
'The fans have been the same. I am sure they will stick with us, help us get through this season and then looking into the future, it looks promising to me.'
Treated like idiots, I'm afraid, by club and player.
And, just to prove their idiocy, this is what they've just tweeted all of three minutes ago.
I shit you not.
(http://i.imgur.com/xuZ9tRB.jpg)
Worse than Downing, the fucking rat
Can we really expect players like Delph or Benteke to hunker down for yet another tedious relegation battle? He's only doing what the vast majority of players would do in his position. If this were any other 'product' I'd be looking to switch as well, but I can't because I'm a fan and I'm stuck with this shit come what may. Which is precisely why clubs, players and the whole game can take the piss out of fans the way they do.
Can we really expect players like Delph or Benteke to hunker down for yet another tedious relegation battle? He's only doing what the vast majority of players would do in his position. If this were any other 'product' I'd be looking to switch as well, but I can't because I'm a fan and I'm stuck with this shit come what may. Which is precisely why clubs, players and the whole game can take the piss out of fans the way they do.
Can we really expect players like Delph or Benteke to hunker down for yet another tedious relegation battle? He's only doing what the vast majority of players would do in his position. If this were any other 'product' I'd be looking to switch as well, but I can't because I'm a fan and I'm stuck with this shit come what may. Which is precisely why clubs, players and the whole game can take the piss out of fans the way they do.
Its not that hes leaving, its the things that were said and the way the new contract was presented thats upsetting people.
"The club has given me a great platform to perform and a great opportunity to showcase what I can do.
"The fans have been great with me, the chairman has been absolutely fantastic with me and I have a great relationship with the manager and I see the boys here as my brothers, my family and I am delighted to stay here.
"I am a loyal person and committing my future will hopefully show everybody what type of guy I am.
"I feel like this is me - I love the club, I love being here and I want to put 100% into everything I do here. This is my club and I want to be here. That's why I am committing my future.
"Hopefully it will give everyone a bit of a lift and show the fans that we are looking to do big things here and bring excitement back to the club.
"We want to get through this season, do well and I feel the up-and-coming years will be big.
"There was no way I was going to bail out. I am here for the long run.
"The fans have been the same. I am sure they will stick with us, help us get through this season and then looking into the future, it looks promising to me."
Did anyone seriously believe all that 'this is my club' horse shit? It's 2015, you'll find girls in the Bluebell Suite with more loyalty than any professional footballer.I agree with what you're saying but just come out with I'm going to City at the end of my contract because I want to win trophies, be it sat on the bench.
I can't feel much anger towards Delph because he's doing what any player with this kind of offer would do. The club, on the other hand, I'm furious with, for the reasons Paulie mentioned and for the fucking shit they've put us through for half a decade. We're run by utter, utter idiots, but we've known that ever since a certain Scotsman walked through the door, pinching himself, wondering if it was all a dream.
Aston Villa captain Fabian Delph set to complete £8m transfer to Manchester City
Manchester City have activated Fabian Delph's £8million release clause
England international Delph has agreed personal terms with City
The 25-year-old did not travel to Portugal for Villa's pre-season camp
Manuel Pellegrini wants to add homegrown talent to his squad
Villa have agreed a £9m deal for Lille midfielder Idrissa Gueye
By Laurie Whitwell for MailOnline
Published: 16:46, 10 July 2015 | Updated: 17:01, 10 July 2015
Aston Villa captain Fabian Delph will complete his £8million move to Manchester City in the next 24 hours.
City are understood to have activated the release clause in the England midfielder’s contract and personal terms have been agreed.
Delph, 25, did not travel with the Villa squad to their pre-season training camp in Portugal and will become Manuel Pellegrini’s first signing of the summer.
The Chilean has been looking for homegrown talent after James Milner left for Liverpool on a free transfer.
Villa manager Tim Sherwood has looked to address the huge loss of Delph, Villa’s player of the season, by agreeing a £9million deal for Lille midfielder Idrissa Gueye, with a work permit pending.
It's all been said before, but he signed up and gave a motivational talk. That and his subsequent performances contributed to the feel good factor of the fans and club as a whole and significantly contributed to us staying up.
Would people have genuinely preferred he refuse to sign and go on a free?
Whilst I understand that in hindsight it looks bad, at the time it was exactly what we needed.
It's all been said before, but he signed up and gave a motivational talk. That and his subsequent performances contributed to the feel good factor of the fans and club as a whole and significantly contributed to us staying up.
Would people have genuinely preferred he refuse to sign and go on a free?
Whilst I understand that in hindsight it looks bad, at the time it was exactly what we needed. To hold it against him now is just a bit churlish and to liken him to Hodge is just ridiculous.
Furthermore, I strongly suspect at the time of signing he had no idea of City's interest and probably expected to be at the club for a good while.
The fact is, he has done us a big favour and should go with our thanks.
It's all been said before, but he signed up and gave a motivational talk. That and his subsequent performances contributed to the feel good factor of the fans and club as a whole and significantly contributed to us staying up.
Would people have genuinely preferred he refuse to sign and go on a free?
Whilst I understand that in hindsight it looks bad, at the time it was exactly what we needed. To hold it against him now is just a bit churlish and to liken him to Hodge is just ridiculous.
Furthermore, I strongly suspect at the time of signing he had no idea of City's interest and probably expected to be at the club for a good while.
The fact is, he has done us a big favour and should go with our thanks.
The fact is, he has done us a big favour and should go with our thanks.
It's all been said before, but he signed up and gave a motivational talk. That and his subsequent performances contributed to the feel good factor of the fans and club as a whole and significantly contributed to us staying up.
Would people have genuinely preferred he refuse to sign and go on a free?
Whilst I understand that in hindsight it looks bad, at the time it was exactly what we needed. To hold it against him now is just a bit churlish and to liken him to Hodge is just ridiculous.
Furthermore, I strongly suspect at the time of signing he had no idea of City's interest and probably expected to be at the club for a good while.
The fact is, he has done us a big favour and should go with our thanks.
He has done is a big favour? We essentially paid £8 million for him originally. We stood by him for years through long injury problems. Just as he starts to reach his potential he leaves for more a less what we paid for him. That's on top of declaring his loyalty to the club. Not the biggest favour.
You would liken him to Hodge? You don't think we should be thankful we got £8m for him?It's all been said before, but he signed up and gave a motivational talk. That and his subsequent performances contributed to the feel good factor of the fans and club as a whole and significantly contributed to us staying up.
Would people have genuinely preferred he refuse to sign and go on a free?
Whilst I understand that in hindsight it looks bad, at the time it was exactly what we needed.
I agree with this, but not the rest.
We see 'em come, we see 'em go and the more I see, the less I give a fuck.
It's all been said before, but he signed up and gave a motivational talk. That and his subsequent performances contributed to the feel good factor of the fans and club as a whole and significantly contributed to us staying up.
Would people have genuinely preferred he refuse to sign and go on a free?
Whilst I understand that in hindsight it looks bad, at the time it was exactly what we needed. To hold it against him now is just a bit churlish and to liken him to Hodge is just ridiculous.
Furthermore, I strongly suspect at the time of signing he had no idea of City's interest and probably expected to be at the club for a good while.
The fact is, he has done us a big favour and should go with our thanks.
What a joker. £8 million being the favour....seriously. Peanuts man, should of had a minimum £20 million clause in there straight away, not because he's worth that, because he's English. He and his agent knew what they were doing from day one....No. 1, mug off the fans!The fact is, he has done us a big favour and should go with our thanks.
No no no. Not after this:This is my club and I want to be here. That's why I am committing my future.
He's a footballer doing what footballers do get over it.
You would liken him to Hodge? You don't think we should be thankful we got £8m for him?It's all been said before, but he signed up and gave a motivational talk. That and his subsequent performances contributed to the feel good factor of the fans and club as a whole and significantly contributed to us staying up.
Would people have genuinely preferred he refuse to sign and go on a free?
Whilst I understand that in hindsight it looks bad, at the time it was exactly what we needed.
I agree with this, but not the rest.
How can a player (an England international no less) negotiate a measly £8m buy out clause and claim to be loyal. Asshole.
Well we've essentially done the same with Benteke, haven't we? Sign the contract, but you can have a buy-out clause. Very little chance of keeping him, unless our signings magically convince him that we can compete with Liverpool and Spurs.
Well we've essentially done the same with Benteke, haven't we? Sign the contract, but you can have a buy-out clause. Very little chance of keeping him, unless our signings magically convince him that we can compete with Liverpool and Spurs.
The difference being that £32.5 million is probably Benteke's market value.
I think the only thing the club have done wrong is making those new kit pictures of him pointing at his armband. Getting £8m (or whatever it is) for him knowing he could have left for nothing was good work really. It's not enough, but it's better than nothing.
Well we've essentially done the same with Benteke, haven't we? Sign the contract, but you can have a buy-out clause. Very little chance of keeping him, unless our signings magically convince him that we can compete with Liverpool and Spurs.
The difference being that £32.5 million is probably Benteke's market value.
I think the only thing the club have done wrong is making those new kit pictures of him pointing at his armband. Getting £8m (or whatever it is) for him knowing he could have left for nothing was good work really. It's not enough, but it's better than nothing.
Agreed. Although the PR should probably have been toned down at renewal too.
From martincurry85 on Delphs Instagram....
You shitbag! I hope your career fails and you never play at City under BETTER players like Silva and Nasri. You're not good enough to be there and have pissed all over the Villa fans! You had us all behind you and our support. Now your back to being a nobody warming the bench season after season you silly little idiot. No football reasons here you money hungry c***. No more England caps for you either just look at all the other players that fizzled out at City. #GoneAndForgotten
Thumbs up.
He'll go from being our main midfield man, too Citys bench, too Sunderlands midfield in under 2 years.
He'll go from being our main midfield man, too Citys bench, too Sunderlands midfield in under 2 years.
I suspect you might be right. I hope you are, in fact. Bitter though it sounds. Mostly because it is.
So Ron fucks off for nothing and hardly a wimper.
Delph gets us £8m, helps us stay up and is a pariah?
And yes, I understand the 'my club' bit, but I'll take the £8m thanks.
Sadly it appears to be petering out to a predictable conclusion. But let's be honest City are better placed to offer him success and cash than we are.
For what it's worth, I believe Delph intended to stay when he signed his deal, but something has happened since then which has changed him mind.
Sad, yes but no surprise. Anyone taken in by his passionate bullshit after he re-signed must be angry, however it's very clear (if it wasn't before) that there is no such thing as loyalty in modern top flight football.
Still, we move on. All hail Idrissa!
Sadly it appears to be petering out to a predictable conclusion. But let's be honest City are better placed to offer him success and cash than we are.
For what it's worth, I believe Delph intended to stay when he signed his deal, but something has happened since then which has changed him mind.
It's not Delph. It's not the club. It's not even greed. It's the pathetic state our game is in, which allows the richest to stockpile players, whether homegrown or not, whilst the rest struggle to avoid relegation with their threadbare squads, having sold all their stars to the selfsame clubs. It's a sickener - and I just renewed too.
What happened to all the "exciting times ahead" from all the villa alums?
And, just to prove their idiocy, this is what they've just tweeted all of three minutes ago.
I shit you not.
(http://i.imgur.com/xuZ9tRB.jpg)
I've had enough of this shit. Football is fucking ruined.
I'm pretty sure he'll give a ''leaving'' statement to us lot. Be interesting to see what he says. He's quite a straight-talking guy in interviews and seems to eschew the typical footballer media-trained brain-dead drivel they always come out with.
So come on Fab, for the last time, lets hear your Yorkshire honesty.
I'm pretty sure he'll give a ''leaving'' statement to us lot. Be interesting to see what he says. He's quite a straight-talking guy in interviews and seems to eschew the typical footballer media-trained brain-dead drivel they always come out with.
So come on Fab, for the last time, lets hear your Yorkshire honesty.
I'm pretty sure he'll give a ''leaving'' statement to us lot. Be interesting to see what he says. He's quite a straight-talking guy in interviews and seems to eschew the typical footballer media-trained brain-dead drivel they always come out with.
So come on Fab, for the last time, lets hear your Yorkshire honesty.
Sadly it appears to be petering out to a predictable conclusion. But let's be honest City are better placed to offer him success and cash than we are.
For what it's worth, I believe Delph intended to stay when he signed his deal, but something has happened since then which has changed him mind.
Yeah, his agent touted him.
A lot of hate based around a rumour I have only seen on the (never reliable) BBC football section reporting it from bloody RadioWM. Maybe hold off on our ire until he actually does something to deserve it?It's everywhere including Sky I'd be amazed if this didn't happen
A lot of hate based around a rumour I have only seen on the (never reliable) BBC football section reporting it from bloody RadioWM. Maybe hold off on our ire until he actually does something to deserve it?
A lot of hate based around a rumour I have only seen on the (never reliable) BBC football section reporting it from bloody RadioWM. Maybe hold off on our ire until he actually does something to deserve it?
If you are going to sell your best midfielder to Man City every two years what is the point in competing. I mean really.
I love this idea that he won't play at City. Is Fernando gonna keep him out of the team? Or Fernandinho? I'm annoyed, but let's be real here, he's a very good player.
The club though, fucking hell. We are run by idiots. The day Lerner sells up to someone with a brain, the better.
After last season I've really felt deflated. I've struggled to get back into it, this could be another nail in the coffin, just getting a bit fed up of it all
I love this idea that he won't play at City. Is Fernando gonna keep him out of the team? Or Fernandinho? I'm annoyed, but let's be real here, he's a very good player.
The club though, fucking hell. We are run by idiots. The day Lerner sells up to someone with a brain, the better.
Well yes.... Otherwise Milner would have stayed.
What a lying, duplicitous toe rag. Fuck him, and the horse he rode in on. I hope he rots in their stiffs.
So what's he looking at then? Half a dozen games a season before being loaned out to Stoke? What a shit career that will end upFucking good
Freshly signed contract with an 8m release clause, which frankly was only ever going to mean one thing, and not only do they get him to do this, he does, he says he's proving there is still loyalty in the game, and they show it on the big screens prior to the match.
With an 8m release clause, you don't really have to be a genius to see why they might have opted to underplay this one, not shout it from the rooftops.
This wouldn't have happened on Faulkner's watch.
This has obviously been on the cards for a few days and leak coincides with the signing of his replacement. As soon as a striker comes in expect Benteke to be gone.
The club actively participated in the supporters being totally misled. This is a very serious breach of trust by the club in my opinion. I am angrier with them than I am with the player.This
The club actively participated in the supporters being totally misled. This is a very serious breach of trust by the club in my opinion. I am angrier with them than I am with the player.
Can we get back to slagging off the drum?
And, just to prove their idiocy, this is what they've just tweeted all of three minutes ago.
I shit you not.
(http://i.imgur.com/xuZ9tRB.jpg)
...Benteke praying Liverpool meet his release clause.And, just to prove their idiocy, this is what they've just tweeted all of three minutes ago.
I shit you not.
(http://i.imgur.com/xuZ9tRB.jpg)
He's pointing to his sky blue sleeve. Jack can't believe it and Gabby knows summat but aint tellin. The clues were all there.
The weasel
I bear him no ill will. He could've walked out for nothing if he was just a mercenary. Always gave his all for the club. I can't blame him for having his head turned at the chance of winning trophies and playing in the best club competition in the World after putting up with years of mediocrity at Villa.
People are slagging him off for his statement when he signed. What was he supposed to say? I don't doubt for a second he had genuine affection for the club unlike rats like Downing.
I wish him well, except when he plays us.
...Benteke praying Liverpool meet his release clause.And, just to prove their idiocy, this is what they've just tweeted all of three minutes ago.
I shit you not.
(http://i.imgur.com/xuZ9tRB.jpg)
He's pointing to his sky blue sleeve. Jack can't believe it and Gabby knows summat but aint tellin. The clues were all there.
The weasel
I bear him no ill will. He could've walked out for nothing if he was just a mercenary. Always gave his all for the club. I can't blame him for having his head turned at the chance of winning trophies and playing in the best club competition in the World after putting up with years of mediocrity at Villa.
People are slagging him off for his statement when he signed. What was he supposed to say? I don't doubt for a second he had genuine affection for the club unlike rats like Downing.
I reckon Delph and his agent pitched the £8m release clause as the amount that we signed him for, therefore no financial loss apart from the wages whilst being injured...he earned his keep when he was on the pitch.I bear him no ill will. He could've walked out for nothing if he was just a mercenary. Always gave his all for the club. I can't blame him for having his head turned at the chance of winning trophies and playing in the best club competition in the World after putting up with years of mediocrity at Villa.How about he didn't have to go an be so effusive about how loyal he is? £8 million clause was clearly put in place so he could leave asap. He knew that was at least half of the going rate for an England midfielder. If he really had affection for the club or had any intention of living up to his statement he would have signed with a £15-20 million release clause. He is no different from Downing. The club are stupid too.
People are slagging him off for his statement when he signed. What was he supposed to say? I don't doubt for a second he had genuine affection for the club unlike rats like Downing.
I wish him well, except when he plays us.
I bear him no ill will. He could've walked out for nothing if he was just a mercenary. Always gave his all for the club. I can't blame him for having his head turned at the chance of winning trophies and playing in the best club competition in the World after putting up with years of mediocrity at Villa.
People are slagging him off for his statement when he signed. What was he supposed to say? I don't doubt for a second he had genuine affection for the club unlike rats like Downing.
I wish him well, except when he plays us.
How about he didn't have to go an be so effusive about how loyal he is? £8 million clause was clearly put in place so he could leave asap. He knew that was at least half of the going rate for an England midfielder. If he really had affection for the club or had any intention of living up to his statement he would have signed with a £15-20 million release clause. He is no different from Downing. The club are stupid too.
On Twitter Scot Sinclair is trending as well as Delph as the common consencus is this is a similar move with a similar outcome...
On Twitter Scot Sinclair is trending as well as Delph as the common consencus is this is a similar move with a similar outcome...
There's a lot of 'I didn't fancy her anyway' going on here. He's very good and I'd imagine will feature in around 30 of Man City's games next season which, when you consider it, isn't bad at all. Fucker.He will not feature in 30 of Man City's games next season.
Vichy cnut.
He'll have plenty of time to count his money sitting on the City bench. He's good but he's not great. It shouldn't be too difficult finding equal or better. Wait until City find out he plays like Ray Wilkins for the first 35-40 minutes. He's just a cheap option to fill up their quota and everybody knows it.
On Twitter Scot Sinclair is trending as well as Delph as the common consencus is this is a similar move with a similar outcome...
Gareth Barry would be a better comparison. He'll be involved in the majority of their games barring injury or a massive loss of form.
He said how loyal he was because somebody shoved a microphone in his face and he had to say something.
He will not feature in 30 of Man City's games next season.
I know fcuk all but I promise he will play nothing like that number of games.
On Twitter Scot Sinclair is trending as well as Delph as the common consencus is this is a similar move with a similar outcome...
Seriously though.. how could bringing in Sinclair and Micah NOT be writing on the wall that City is a death trap. Fabian is good but no world beater, he'll never meet their cutthroat expectations.
He will not feature in 30 of Man City's games next season.
I know fcuk all but I promise he will play nothing like that number of games.
I'm almost certain he will. When you consider how many CL games they play, how much further they get in both domestic cups than us and the obvious league games, I'd say he will. He's a lot better than Fernando/Fernandinho/whatever his/their names are.
Navas, Silva, Fernando, Yaya, Fernandinho, Nasri..
I reckon he'll hardly feature. Those are some world class options.
On Twitter Scot Sinclair is trending as well as Delph as the common consencus is this is a similar move with a similar outcome...
Gareth Barry would be a better comparison. He'll be involved in the majority of their games barring injury or a massive loss of form.
Navas, Silva, Fernando, Yaya, Fernandinho, Nasri..
I reckon he'll hardly feature. Those are some world class options.
On Twitter Scot Sinclair is trending as well as Delph as the common consencus is this is a similar move with a similar outcome...
Gareth Barry would be a better comparison. He'll be involved in the majority of their games barring injury or a massive loss of form.
Navas, Silva, Fernando, Yaya, Fernandinho, Nasri..
I reckon he'll hardly feature. Those are some world class options.
Of those only Fernadinho plays in the same position, and he won't play ever week.
Toure is finished.
He said how loyal he was because somebody shoved a microphone in his face and he had to say something.
It was a pre-planned and pre-recorded video, not a spur of the moment interview.
On Twitter Scot Sinclair is trending as well as Delph as the common consencus is this is a similar move with a similar outcome...
Gareth Barry would be a better comparison. He'll be involved in the majority of their games barring injury or a massive loss of form.
Navas, Silva, Fernando, Yaya, Fernandinho, Nasri..
I reckon he'll hardly feature. Those are some world class options.
Of those only Fernadinho plays in the same position, and he won't play ever week.
Toure is finished.
Some of you are forgetting how worthless Delph is on the scoresheet, and that's all that matters to City. 8 goals from 100 games, that won't get you first team football there.
You can't defend the weasel words. He's a lying c*** that took us for mugs.
You can't defend the weasel words. He's a lying c*** that took us for mugs.
And, just to prove their idiocy, this is what they've just tweeted all of three minutes ago.
I shit you not.
(http://i.imgur.com/xuZ9tRB.jpg)
He's pointing to his sky blue sleeve. Jack can't believe it and Gabby knows summat but aint tellin. The clues were all there.
The weasel
Sinclair and Rodwell aren't good comparisons. Delph is more comparable to Jimmy and whydidnthetakethepenalty.
He'll do ok at City. Who wouldn't want close to twice the wages for less work ?
Modern footballers, eh? What a scab.
May all his children have small penises. Even the girls.
I'm just as pissed off with the club for the making of that cheesy video and leading the fans up the garden path.I totally agree. It's like they think were all daft
What a wanky thing to do.
It seems the mob have already found him guilty though so I'll ask, again, if he's such a terrible person, with no genuine affection for Aston Villa, why didn't he just leave on a free?
It seems the mob have already found him guilty though so I'll ask, again, if he's such a terrible person, with no genuine affection for Aston Villa, why didn't he just leave on a free?
Maybe because a career ending injury in the last 5 months of his contract would have left him up shit creek without a paddle, whereas after signing he could have picked up £60,000 a week (or whatever) from his bed for 4 years, which allows plenty of time and money to sort himself out?
I'd like to think he's not that cynical, but that video is a very hard watch today.
It seems the mob have already found him guilty though so I'll ask, again, if he's such a terrible person, with no genuine affection for Aston Villa, why didn't he just leave on a free?
Maybe because a career ending injury in the last 5 months of his contract would have left him up shit creek without a paddle, whereas after signing he could have picked up £60,000 a week (or whatever) from his bed for 4 years, which allows plenty of time and money to sort himself out?
I'd like to think he's not that cynical, but that video is a very hard watch today.
It seems a bit far-fetched to me, I just think maybe he changed his mind.
I've seen you do it many times, after you say "no, I'm not going to have another pint".
Perhaps I'm being naive, but I don't think we'll miss him that much...he's no Ian Taylor that's for sure.
He was definitely one of the least smelly shits in our overburdened septic of a team, but I think we can do better and I'm looking forward to seeing what Timmy does.
It seems a bit far-fetched to me, I just think maybe he changed his mind.
I've seen you do it many times, after you say "no, I'm not going to have another pint".
I'm sorry but this is the saddest I've been of any recent villa transfer. I wasn't surprised when Dwight yorke and Ashley Young went to United, even Barry gave us us his best years before looking for a different challenge, but Delph, come on son, you would have been an absolute villa legend. You're now destined to be a bit part player in a team destined to finish second.
It is a staggeringly duplicitous statement and I genuinely can't see how anyone defends it.
I love how loads of our fans have suddenly decided he's not that good and won't get in their team. Have a word with yourself, you weren't saying those things when he led us past Liverpool into the cup final. I suppose we've got something similar to look forward to when Benteke leaves ::)
Delph is a good player, but the fact he doesn't score much or create all that much should mean he's easier to replace, with the right money, than Benteke will be.Assume then Gueye is a straight swap for Delph. Richards for vlaar, which overall I'm guessing should be ok ??
6 years. He's done his penance. Good luck to him.
Delph is a good player, but the fact he doesn't score much or create all that much should mean he's easier to replace, with the right money, than Benteke will be.Assume then Gueye is a straight swap for Delph. Richards for vlaar, which overall I'm guessing should be ok ??
6 years. He's done his penance. Good luck to him.
2 years at a good level and just as he's starting to fulfil his potential he's off.
6 years. He's done his penance. Good luck to him.
2 years at a good level and just as he's starting to fulfil his potential he's off.
Same as Milner then?
On signing his new contract in January, the England international had said he intended to be at the club "for the long run".
"There was no way I was going to bail out," he said at the time.
"This is my club and I want to be here. That's why I am committing my future."
Hardly Delph's fault he was seriously injured. And again, he may well have meant it at the time and something has changed between then and now.
How many here have been very happy in a job, and had a change at management or whatever and within 6 months couldn't wait to leave? I bet there's a few of us. I'm not taking it as read he's a Judas shitehawk, although that could be the reason he's off.
And we should say c u next Tuesday Delph, you knob! I have become more cynical about the modern game, but after his statement in January he was ab bit of a modern day hero of mine. I have not felt this kicked in the nads by a player maybe since Yorkie back in the day when I was much younger and less cynical. He has done much more for us and deserved his move to. Delph we have patched up, stuck by, seen through pro form and been shafted by him.This.
Hardly Delph's fault he was seriously injured. And again, he may well have meant it at the time and something has changed between then and now.
How many here have been very happy in a job, and had a change at management or whatever and within 6 months couldn't wait to leave? I bet there's a few of us. I'm not taking it as read he's a Judas shitehawk, although that could be the reason he's off.
Stop trying to defend it. The intention was clear at the time the contract was signed, it was always his intention to fuck off, which begs the question of why he came out with his lying words and why the club were complicit in the decipt.
Hardly Delph's fault he was seriously injured. And again, he may well have meant it at the time and something has changed between then and now.
How many here have been very happy in a job, and had a change at management or whatever and within 6 months couldn't wait to leave? I bet there's a few of us. I'm not taking it as read he's a Judas shitehawk, although that could be the reason he's off.
He is not a Judas. We finish fourth bottom and he gets to play for a title challenger. Good luck.
He is not a Judas. We finish fourth bottom and he gets to play for a title challenger. Good luck.
He is not a Judas. We finish fourth bottom and he gets to play for a title challenger. Good luck.
I'm hardly defending it, simply pointing out we don't know why he's leaving. As it seems hard to grasp, it could be because he's a Judas twat, or there could be something that has made him want to leave.
The reason i'm wondering if it is the latter is because i've seen nothing from Delph before now to suggest he is a shit, and if he intended to leave I really don't see him being the type of person to say what he did as it would obviously massively backfire, as it has. You'd have to be either a right Judas c***, or very very thick to do that video if you fully intended to leave 6 months later, and i'm not convinced Delph is either.
Just got in, see this thread is red hot, so has he definitely gone then ?Yes. Headline on bbc football page
He'll play less, get paid more, chumps league football and have a significantly higher chance of winning something over his contracted time.
Yeah it might not work out but I personally think he'll do well there, it's a good move for him.
He is not a Judas. We finish fourth bottom and he gets to play for a title challenger. Good luck.
Sounds like a simplistic comment befitting of a 'Nose'
He is not a Judas. We finish fourth bottom and he gets to play for a title challenger. Good luck.He's not the messiah.
He is not a Judas. We finish fourth bottom and he gets to play for a title challenger. Good luck.
He is not a Judas. We finish fourth bottom and he gets to play for a title challenger. Good luck.
He's not Jurassic, he's a very naughty boy.
Never said he was. I don't think he is a Hodge or even a McMahon. Let him go is my view.He is not a Judas. We finish fourth bottom and he gets to play for a title challenger. Good luck.He's not the messiah.
He's a very naughty boy
He is not a Judas. We finish fourth bottom and he gets to play for a title challenger. Good luck.
He is not a Judas. We finish fourth bottom and he gets to play for a title challenger. Good luck.
The thing is that's factually correct, but it's ignoring a couple of key components to the story, which is why people are upset.
He is not a Judas. We finish fourth bottom and he gets to play for a title challenger. Good luck.
The thing is that's factually correct, but it's ignoring a couple of key components to the story, which is why people are upset.
Everyone was party to him saying he's loyal and here for the long term. Everyone also appears to be party to his minimal release clause.
I am not party to the whole story, so I won't stand in judgement.
I don't know what has changed. Do you?He is not a Judas. We finish fourth bottom and he gets to play for a title challenger. Good luck.
The thing is that's factually correct, but it's ignoring a couple of key components to the story, which is why people are upset.
Everyone was party to him saying he's loyal and here for the long term. Everyone also appears to be party to his minimal release clause.
I am not party to the whole story, so I won't stand in judgement.
He is not a Judas. We finish fourth bottom and he gets to play for a title challenger. Good luck.You say what you like....to me he is a **** of lowest order.
He is not a Judas. We finish fourth bottom and he gets to play for a title challenger. Good luck.You say what you like....to me he is a **** of lowest order.
Just got in, see this thread is red hot, so has he definitely gone then ?Yes. Headline on bbc football page
He is not a Judas. We finish fourth bottom and he gets to play for a title challenger. Good luck.You say what you like....to me he is a **** of lowest order.
Me too
I knew the game was up when he said he was "already over" the Cup Final just 2 weeks after. Not the comments of a Club Captain or a man who claimed that this was "his club"The best of it is, he'll probably be absolutely bewildered by our reaction and expecting that we'll all understand his reasons.
Well Fab, we will have to remember your part in that spineless effort that day for ever.
I've been incredibly cynical about football for years but I have to admit to being duped by this. If he'd left on a free it really wouldn't have bothered me, but to sign when he were at such a low point under Lambert and then come out with all those wonderful soundbites. At the time I believed it.
For me he joins Hodge, Downing etc.
If someone could load up his little speech again, the one where he says "I'm here for the long term, this is my club, I love being here etc". Really nails the point for me.
Downing, Hodge, Yorke, Unsworth. This is worse. If it happens.
Wanker or not we are fucked without him.
If someone could load up his little speech again, the one where he says "I'm here for the long term, this is my club, I love being here etc". Really nails the point for me.I think in that video, the bald slimy shit even winks at the camera as he spouts this is my club etc.
Downing, Hodge, Yorke, Unsworth. This is worse. If it happens.
If someone could load up his little speech again, the one where he says "I'm here for the long term, this is my club, I love being here etc". Really nails the point for me.
Downing, Hodge, Yorke, Unsworth. This is worse. If it happens.
Fucking ell.....Delph and Begovic sitting on benches instead of playing every week....shocking.They had it ticker taped all afternoon.
nothing on SSN about Delph going though....and they fucking invented football.
If someone could load up his little speech again, the one where he says "I'm here for the long term, this is my club, I love being here etc". Really nails the point for me.I think in that video, the bald slimy shit even winks at the camera as he spouts this is my club etc.
Downing, Hodge, Yorke, Unsworth. This is worse. If it happens.
fuck off you lying **** . Hope you enjoy the Recaro seats at Ci£y dugout and get some chaffing .
He is not a Judas. We finish fourth bottom and he gets to play for a title challenger. Good luck.
Yes, let's all just clap our hands and know our place.
Begovic going to Chelsea is the strangest deal in a while. Top keeper but will just waste away there!
If someone could load up his little speech again, the one where he says "I'm here for the long term, this is my club, I love being here etc". Really nails the point for me.I think in that video, the bald slimy shit even winks at the camera as he spouts this is my club etc.
Downing, Hodge, Yorke, Unsworth. This is worse. If it happens.
fuck off you lying **** . Hope you enjoy the Recaro seats at Ci£y dugout and get some chaffing .
Chuffing wink. Someone once told me never to trust a winker. Bastard. Really bad mood tonight.
DelphAt least we got good money for Downing. More than he was worth. Not that it was spent on the team...
Hodge
Downing
In that order.
I wouldn't have any issue with Delph leaving if he hadn't come out with that loyalty bullshit in January. He really must have no conscience whatsoever. Certain players have been giving football a bad name for years now but the actions of Delph, and even worse, Raheem Sterling are a new low.
I'm finding it hard to understand the anger towards Delph. Do you think it was his idea to come out with those comments? I'm angry towards the club for letting his contract run down, agreeing to an 8m release clause (although they may not have had a choice, we don't know), making and releasing that video, the kit promos that were released only a few days ago. I'd love an explanation for those things.
Whilst nothing really surprises us in football that is bollox. Not blaming club at all as if players believe it is time to go then always difficult to change the heart. But this really hurts, do you know what I mean?Awful ,but a light has been switched off for me today, I'm gutted !
I wouldn't have any issue with Delph leaving if he hadn't come out with that loyalty bullshit in January. He really must have no conscience whatsoever. Certain players have been giving football a bad name for years now but the actions of Delph, and even worse, Raheem Sterling are a new low.
I wouldn't have any issue with Delph leaving if he hadn't come out with that loyalty bullshit in January. He really must have no conscience whatsoever. Certain players have been giving football a bad name for years now but the actions of Delph, and even worse, Raheem Sterling are a new low.
Again, if he had no conscience whatsoever, he could just have left on a free.
Is it impossible that he changed his mind?
Whilst nothing really surprises us in football that is bollox. Not blaming club at all as if players believe it is time to go then always difficult to change the heart. But this really hurts, do you know what I mean?
In fact, if they haven't knowingly treated us like mugs, then it is because they didn't see this coming. Which is as bad, pretty much, and is probably more likely, given they were dim enough to have him all over the kit campaign.
In fact, if they haven't knowingly treated us like mugs, then it is because they didn't see this coming. Which is as bad, pretty much, and is probably more likely, given they were dim enough to have him all over the kit campaign.
It's what we were chewing on the other day. His agent would have been on the phone less than 30 seconds after the ink dried securing this move. That's why they did it and everyone knew it was going to happen. Everyone except us that is.
Don't disagree LTA with your sentiments but did the club really know he was off? As stated in a post just now though this really jar's. The whole captain armband thing for the new kit just ridiculous but he will have to live with that not us; We will go on...Whilst nothing really surprises us in football that is bollox. Not blaming club at all as if players believe it is time to go then always difficult to change the heart. But this really hurts, do you know what I mean?
But the PR that the club came out with even though they knew he was likely to be gone in a matter of months has made them look utterly foolish again. Fox owes it to us to give us an explanation.
I wouldn't have any issue with Delph leaving if he hadn't come out with that loyalty bullshit in January. He really must have no conscience whatsoever. Certain players have been giving football a bad name for years now but the actions of Delph, and even worse, Raheem Sterling are a new low.
Again, if he had no conscience whatsoever, he could just have left on a free.
Is it impossible that he changed his mind?
If it was about him changing his mind, he wouldn't have had the release clause so low in the first place.
Why on earth would Villa have agreed to a release clause less than half his value, otherwise? It was clearly a "I won't leave for nothing, but I am going to leave" situation, or it wouldn't be in there.
That's the bit that jars. Not him leaving. I don't blame him, I would have left before now were I him.
It is the big deal the club made about it, that he made about it, when all parties knew the real situation was very different.
That video, ffs.
I can put up with players coming and going, that's what they do, but I honestly think the club have treated us like absolute mugs this time.
I'm finding it hard to understand the anger towards Delph. Do you think it was his idea to come out with those comments? I'm angry towards the club for letting his contract run down, agreeing to an 8m release clause (although they may not have had a choice, we don't know), making and releasing that video, the kit promos that were released only a few days ago. I'd love an explanation for those things.
So basically, everything the club does is wrong, and everyone who shits on them is fine.
The club knew he'd be off in the summer yet they still produced that video in January and all the hype that surrounded his new contract, and they knew he was plotting his escape when they pushed him to the front of the new shirt launch poster.
It just stinks.
The club knew he'd be off in the summer yet they still produced that video in January and all the hype that surrounded his new contract, and they knew he was plotting his escape when they pushed him to the front of the new shirt launch poster.
It just stinks.
I so respect you, but what effect do you think would have happened if he had gone on that screen and said I am f~~~~~g off? Not good on the club now and have to say I am disappointed in the player, the long haul comment grates, but hey, is he better than Aston Villa Football Club?
I'm finding it hard to understand the anger towards Delph. Do you think it was his idea to come out with those comments? I'm angry towards the club for letting his contract run down, agreeing to an 8m release clause (although they may not have had a choice, we don't know), making and releasing that video, the kit promos that were released only a few days ago. I'd love an explanation for those things.
The club knew he'd be off in the summer yet they still produced that video in January and all the hype that surrounded his new contract, and they knew he was plotting his escape when they pushed him to the front of the new shirt launch poster.
It just stinks.
I so respect you, but what effect do you think would have happened if he had gone on that screen and said I am f~~~~~g off? Not good on the club now and have to say I am disappointed in the player, the long haul comment grates, but hey, is he better than Aston Villa Football Club?
Not a chance is he better than the club but that's not the point. The fans were hoodwinked into thinking we had a captain who was loyal and here for the long haul and they couldn't wait to bullshit the fans into thinking so. Now just a few months later he's off and it looks like they knew it all along.
As I said, it bloody stinks. The people who run our club haven't got a clue.
The debacle at Southampton is now making more sense
The debacle at Southampton is now making more sense
The club knew he'd be off in the summer yet they still produced that video in January and all the hype that surrounded his new contract, and they knew he was plotting his escape when they pushed him to the front of the new shirt launch poster.
It just stinks.
I so respect you, but what effect do you think would have happened if he had gone on that screen and said I am f~~~~~g off? Not good on the club now and have to say I am disappointed in the player, the long haul comment grates, but hey, is he better than Aston Villa Football Club?
The club knew he'd be off in the summer yet they still produced that video in January and all the hype that surrounded his new contract, and they knew he was plotting his escape when they pushed him to the front of the new shirt launch poster.
It just stinks.
I so respect you, but what effect do you think would have happened if he had gone on that screen and said I am f~~~~~g off? Not good on the club now and have to say I am disappointed in the player, the long haul comment grates, but hey, is he better than Aston Villa Football Club?
Not a chance is he better than the club but that's not the point. The fans were hoodwinked into thinking we had a captain who was loyal and here for the long haul and they couldn't wait to bullshit the fans into thinking so. Now just a few months later he's off and it looks like they knew it all along.
As I said, it bloody stinks. The people who run our club haven't got a clue.
So would you have preferred something along the lines of : I have signed a new contract but it means feck all. I don't give a toss how the rest of the season goes. I am sure I will get a European club.
I agree with you, I think the publicity thing is a joke, Delph is getting a lot of stick and have to say if I was a wealthy man I would not have said the shite he did
YupThe debacle at Southampton is now making more sense
Agree with that. And the cup final. Vlaar, Cleverley, Benteke, Given and Delph all thinking about their next moves.
The club knew he'd be off in the summer yet they still produced that video in January and all the hype that surrounded his new contract, and they knew he was plotting his escape when they pushed him to the front of the new shirt launch poster.
It just stinks.
I so respect you, but what effect do you think would have happened if he had gone on that screen and said I am f~~~~~g off? Not good on the club now and have to say I am disappointed in the player, the long haul comment grates, but hey, is he better than Aston Villa Football Club?
Not a chance is he better than the club but that's not the point. The fans were hoodwinked into thinking we had a captain who was loyal and here for the long haul and they couldn't wait to bullshit the fans into thinking so. Now just a few months later he's off and it looks like they knew it all along.
As I said, it bloody stinks. The people who run our club haven't got a clue.
So would you have preferred something along the lines of : I have signed a new contract but it means feck all. I don't give a toss how the rest of the season goes. I am sure I will get a European club.
I agree with you, I think the publicity thing is a joke, Delph is getting a lot of stick and have to say if I was a wealthy man I would not have said the shite he did
Just be honest. Say I have signed a new deal to ensure that when I leave in the future the club recoup what they paid for me as I don't feel it is morally correct to leave for nothing. I will continue to give my all for the club while I remain a Villa player and enjoy playing for the club.
Eh ? Wake up , smell the coffeeThe debacle at Southampton is now making more sense
what are you on about?
The club knew he'd be off in the summer yet they still produced that video in January and all the hype that surrounded his new contract, and they knew he was plotting his escape when they pushed him to the front of the new shirt launch poster.
It just stinks.
I so respect you, but what effect do you think would have happened if he had gone on that screen and said I am f~~~~~g off? Not good on the club now and have to say I am disappointed in the player, the long haul comment grates, but hey, is he better than Aston Villa Football Club?
Not a chance is he better than the club but that's not the point. The fans were hoodwinked into thinking we had a captain who was loyal and here for the long haul and they couldn't wait to bullshit the fans into thinking so. Now just a few months later he's off and it looks like they knew it all along.
As I said, it bloody stinks. The people who run our club haven't got a clue.
So would you have preferred something along the lines of : I have signed a new contract but it means feck all. I don't give a toss how the rest of the season goes. I am sure I will get a European club.
I agree with you, I think the publicity thing is a joke, Delph is getting a lot of stick and have to say if I was a wealthy man I would not have said the shite he did
Just be honest. Say I have signed a new deal to ensure that when I leave in the future the club recoup what they paid for me as I don't feel it is morally correct to leave for nothing. I will continue to give my all for the club while I remain a Villa player and enjoy playing for the club.
Eh ? Wake up , smell the coffeeThe debacle at Southampton is now making more sense
what are you on about?
The club knew he'd be off in the summer yet they still produced that video in January and all the hype that surrounded his new contract, and they knew he was plotting his escape when they pushed him to the front of the new shirt launch poster.
It just stinks.
I so respect you, but what effect do you think would have happened if he had gone on that screen and said I am f~~~~~g off? Not good on the club now and have to say I am disappointed in the player, the long haul comment grates, but hey, is he better than Aston Villa Football Club?
Not a chance is he better than the club but that's not the point. The fans were hoodwinked into thinking we had a captain who was loyal and here for the long haul and they couldn't wait to bullshit the fans into thinking so. Now just a few months later he's off and it looks like they knew it all along.
As I said, it bloody stinks. The people who run our club haven't got a clue.
So would you have preferred something along the lines of : I have signed a new contract but it means feck all. I don't give a toss how the rest of the season goes. I am sure I will get a European club.
I agree with you, I think the publicity thing is a joke, Delph is getting a lot of stick and have to say if I was a wealthy man I would not have said the shite he did
Just be honest. Say I have signed a new deal to ensure that when I leave in the future the club recoup what they paid for me as I don't feel it is morally correct to leave for nothing. I will continue to give my all for the club while I remain a Villa player and enjoy playing for the club.
Eh ? Wake up , smell the coffeeThe debacle at Southampton is now making more sense
what are you on about?
It is easier for your heads to drop after a couple of goals going in knowing 1. you are likely safe now, and 2. you are likely to be off pretty soon.Yep.
but hey, is he better than Aston Villa Football Club?vfl I bet you he thinks he is and to him that contract bollix in Jamuary was all about "look I am doing you a favour you poor things"!
I really admire your happy spin on everything but you've been pretty much wrong on everything for a long while.Eh ? Wake up , smell the coffeeThe debacle at Southampton is now making more sense
what are you on about?
yes, I am sure we got battered because they all wanted to leave. So why didn't they pack up before then? What does it matter to them if we stayed up or not or made the cup final even if they wanted to go? How about the times when Arsenal, Liverpool, Man U, Spurs have all been spanked for 5 or 6 goals in the past couple go seasons? Was it an indication their players all wanted to leave too?
The only fact is we lost 3 games, the rest is just a mental theory that half the team couldn't be arsed as they had no professional pride and little interest in winning a trophy.But that's exactly how it looked .
I really admire your happy spin on everything but you've been pretty much wrong on everything for a long while.Eh ? Wake up , smell the coffeeThe debacle at Southampton is now making more sense
what are you on about?
yes, I am sure we got battered because they all wanted to leave. So why didn't they pack up before then? What does it matter to them if we stayed up or not or made the cup final even if they wanted to go? How about the times when Arsenal, Liverpool, Man U, Spurs have all been spanked for 5 or 6 goals in the past couple go seasons? Was it an indication their players all wanted to leave too?
The last 3 games of the season - Southampton burnley and arsenal were diabolical , the final itself was the most one sided final in living memory . Keep burying your head in the sand if you wish but the facts are there for all to see.
Irony fucking overload.I really admire your happy spin on everything but you've been pretty much wrong on everything for a long while.Eh ? Wake up , smell the coffeeThe debacle at Southampton is now making more sense
what are you on about?
yes, I am sure we got battered because they all wanted to leave. So why didn't they pack up before then? What does it matter to them if we stayed up or not or made the cup final even if they wanted to go? How about the times when Arsenal, Liverpool, Man U, Spurs have all been spanked for 5 or 6 goals in the past couple go seasons? Was it an indication their players all wanted to leave too?
The last 3 games of the season - Southampton burnley and arsenal were diabolical , the final itself was the most one sided final in living memory . Keep burying your head in the sand if you wish but the facts are there for all to see.
Irony fucking overload.I really admire your happy spin on everything but you've been pretty much wrong on everything for a long while.Eh ? Wake up , smell the coffeeThe debacle at Southampton is now making more sense
what are you on about?
yes, I am sure we got battered because they all wanted to leave. So why didn't they pack up before then? What does it matter to them if we stayed up or not or made the cup final even if they wanted to go? How about the times when Arsenal, Liverpool, Man U, Spurs have all been spanked for 5 or 6 goals in the past couple go seasons? Was it an indication their players all wanted to leave too?
The last 3 games of the season - Southampton burnley and arsenal were diabolical , the final itself was the most one sided final in living memory . Keep burying your head in the sand if you wish but the facts are there for all to see.
It is easier for your heads to drop after a couple of goals going in knowing 1. you are likely safe now, and 2. you are likely to be off pretty soon.And above that picking up a nasty little injury will stop any summer transfer!
https://youtu.be/5nffOdVAWJ4
I didn't see this interview with Delph and Fox. Makes thee blood boil.
I wouldn't have any issue with Delph leaving if he hadn't come out with that loyalty bullshit in January. He really must have no conscience whatsoever. Certain players have been giving football a bad name for years now but the actions of Delph, and even worse, Raheem Sterling are a new low.
Again, if he had no conscience whatsoever, he could just have left on a free.
Is it impossible that he changed his mind?
If it was about him changing his mind, he wouldn't have had the release clause so low in the first place.
I keep asking, and so far only Amfy has attempted to give an answer, if he always intended to leave, and his words about loving the club were just lies, why say them at all? Why not just leave, for nothing?
I keep asking, and so far only Amfy has attempted to give an answer, if he always intended to leave, and his words about loving the club were just lies, why say them at all? Why not just leave, for nothing?
1. He would have received a signing bonus for the new contract.
2. He may have been pursueded it was a good idea by our utterly inept management.
3. Maybe it was part of the deal that gave him the artifically low release fee, 'we'll set the fee low if you help us take these mugs for a ride'
I guess we didn't offer him a contract earlier because he kept getting injured for lengthy spells.Really? He signed a contact in 2011, after his big injury. In Lambert's first two seasons he played 32 and 36 matches, then hardly missed a game last season.
It hurts more because in the scummy world that has replaced the beautiful game it was nice to have one person who restored your faith a little bit. It was nice to have a club captain to be proud of. After that speech, i expected him to be the one that took us forward and dragged this club back to where it belonged. Ironically, less than 6 months later he has fucked us off to go and make big money playing half a season for the plastic club built on oil money. You literally couldn't make it up....i do feel very let down.
Hardly Delph's fault he was seriously injured. And again, he may well have meant it at the time and something has changed between then and now.
How many here have been very happy in a job, and had a change at management or whatever and within 6 months couldn't wait to leave? I bet there's a few of us. I'm not taking it as read he's a Judas shitehawk, although that could be the reason he's off.
He negotiated an £8m buy out clause! He didn't mean a single word.
I don't feel let down by Delphs statement a few months ago, because I just don't take much of what they say seriously,
its all just marketing bullshit and spin, I doubt any footballer has ever written down more than a couple of sentences themselves, its not that they are liers they are just part of a system of corporate flannelling
when we sign a new player and he comes in with ' its really great to be here, villa are a massive club' we all think oh he seems genuinely glad to be at VP, but in truth its just football small talk, theres no point taking it to heart, yes they will be glad at a certain level, wages big club, but in reality don't expect any loyalty because villa arnt good enough at the moment to command that
Giggs Scholes were loyal to Man Utd, were they ?
or maybe it was because they were both great players playing at a club that won the league more times than not, bet they wouldn't have been so loyal if they were at Crystal Palace
for those who feel hurt and let down by Delph and are over the age of 14 then you need to get a grip, footballers talk shit, and they will carry on talking shit,
the next one that comes through the door at VP and starts telling everyone his delight in joining just don't take it to heart,
the only thing that really matters is a players performance on the pitch, what they say is on the same level as what a politician says
Delph has been great for Villa, a good captain and always gave 100% on the pitch, and that's what I will remember
I am very disappointed to see him go as I rate him highly, but I never believed a word he said about villa being 'his club'
Can see your point of view John e, but he didn't need to give out that load of tosh, just say you have signed a new contract and leave it at that.He certainly didn't pick his words particularly well, but I'm guessing that he didn't ask the club to broadcast it on a big screen and make a massive deal out of it.
Can see your point of view John e, but he didn't need to give out that load of tosh, just say you have signed a new contract and leave it at that.He certainly didn't pick his words particularly well, but I'm guessing that he didn't ask the club to broadcast it on a big screen and make a massive deal out of it.
https://youtu.be/5nffOdVAWJ4Good find.
I didn't see this interview with Delph and Fox. Makes thee blood boil.
Can see your point of view John e, but he didn't need to give out that load of tosh, just say you have signed a new contract and leave it at that.He certainly didn't pick his words particularly well, but I'm guessing that he didn't ask the club to broadcast it on a big screen and make a massive deal out of it.
Eh? I expect that he was fully aware that it was going to be used for publicity purposes. He was probably also that it was going to be put on the big screens at half time.Can see your point of view John e, but he didn't need to give out that load of tosh, just say you have signed a new contract and leave it at that.He certainly didn't pick his words particularly well, but I'm guessing that he didn't ask the club to broadcast it on a big screen and make a massive deal out of it.
Well if he didn't expect the film that was shot to be used for publicity purposes, it's the most naive and unbelievable reaction to being filmed since Sharon Stone absent-mindedly forgot her Alan Whickers in Basic Instinct.
Can see your point of view John e, but he didn't need to give out that load of tosh, just say you have signed a new contract and leave it at that.He certainly didn't pick his words particularly well, but I'm guessing that he didn't ask the club to broadcast it on a big screen and make a massive deal out of it.
Well if he didn't expect the film that was shot to be used for publicity purposes, it's the most naive and unbelievable reaction to being filmed since Sharon Stone absent-mindedly forgot her Alan Whickers in Basic Instinct.
Can see your point of view John e, but he didn't need to give out that load of tosh, just say you have signed a new contract and leave it at that.He certainly didn't pick his words particularly well, but I'm guessing that he didn't ask the club to broadcast it on a big screen and make a massive deal out of it.
Well if he didn't expect the film that was shot to be used for publicity purposes, it's the most naive and unbelievable reaction to being filmed since Sharon Stone absent-mindedly forgot her Alan Whickers in Basic Instinct.
Exactly. It wasn't a spur of the moment answer it was a scripted and staged statement.
I think any last vestiges of faith I had in modern footballers has been well and truly smashed by this.
The fucking wanker.
I have slept on it now and having had a further think this morning about it all I am quite clearly able to say Delph is a fucking weasel, a turd who will go the way of Johnson, Rodwell, Sinclair and a few others at City. Good luck wanker on announcing your retirement from competitive football.
If and when the deal goes through, I wonder if the club will make some kind if statement regarding the fanfare surrounding the re-signing of his contract?
I'm not suggesting they should, but just wondering if they will. Like I said yesterday, for them to have his picture in the new kit photo's only for this to happen a couple of days later could possibly suggest it was something they wasn't expecting.
If and when the deal goes through, I wonder if the club will make some kind if statement regarding the fanfare surrounding the re-signing of his contract?
I'm not suggesting they should, but just wondering if they will. Like I said yesterday, for them to have his picture in the new kit photo's only for this to happen a couple of days later could possibly suggest it was something they wasn't expecting.
They didn't know he had an £8m release clause?
Then again nothing would surprise me about this lot.
The club are guilty of a few things;Yup, that's pretty much where I am. And although Fox bears no responsibility for point 1, that remains by a big margin the worst decision in all of this.
1) the historic failure to address his contract earlier than they did.
2) the triumphalism of announcing his re-signing to ourselves and the media, aware of the inclusion of the less than market value release clause and what it's effect would be
3) the apparent naivety to, six months down the line, believe the deciept to be true, hence the inclusion at the centre of the marketing campaign.
The factor at 1 left the club with few cards to play when it came to the release clause. That's not Fox's fault and I don't think there is any criticism ultimately of this. It's the outright stupidity of the balance of 2 and 3 that make you shake your head at the club. They were complicit in a lie and shoulder the responsibility for that.
He isn't good as Milner, Barry or Young.
We'll be fine.
He isn't good as Milner, Barry or Young.
We'll be fine.
I have slept on it now and having had a further think this morning about it all I am quite clearly able to say Delph is a fucking weasel, a turd who will go the way of Johnson, Rodwell, Sinclair and a few others at City. Good luck wanker on announcing your retirement from competitive football.
Looks like you had a good nights sleep olaftab, pmsl.
He isn't good as Milner, Barry or Young.
We'll be fine.
Spot on, he'll end up at Sunderland in 3-4 years time.
He isn't good as Milner, Barry or Young.
We'll be fine.
Spot on, he'll end up at Sunderland in 3-4 years time.
I actually think that's very likely. He really is not very good and Man City fans on the radio this morning are very unhappy at signing what they believe is a very sub-standard player for their level. I agree with them.
When they sign pogba . Delph will get the odd 15 mins and carling games.
When they sign pogba . Delph will get the odd 15 mins and carling games.
I really hope they sign Pogba now. Revenge is a wasted emotion but I will get pleasure from seeing Delph on the bench and losing his place in the England team. Man City also need Pogba to give Chelsea something like some competition.
He isn't good as Milner, Barry or Young.
We'll be fine.
Spot on, he'll end up at Sunderland in 3-4 years time.
He isn't good as Milner, Barry or Young.
We'll be fine.
Spot on, he'll end up at Sunderland in 3-4 years time.
I actually think that's very likely. He really is not very good and Man City fans on the radio this morning are very unhappy at signing what they believe is a very sub-standard player for their level. I agree with them.
I'm not sure you can say he's 'not very good'. He's not good enough for a top 4 club though, well not yet anyway.
He isn't good as Milner, Barry or Young.
We'll be fine.
Spot on, he'll end up at Sunderland in 3-4 years time.
I actually think that's very likely. He really is not very good and Man City fans on the radio this morning are very unhappy at signing what they believe is a very sub-standard player for their level. I agree with them.
I'm not sure you can say he's 'not very good'. He's not good enough for a top 4 club though, well not yet anyway.
That's exactly what I meant, yes, Clampy.
I'm finding it hard to understand the anger towards Delph. Do you think it was his idea to come out with those comments? I'm angry towards the club for letting his contract run down, agreeing to an 8m release clause (although they may not have had a choice, we don't know), making and releasing that video, the kit promos that were released only a few days ago. I'd love an explanation for those things.
So basically, everything the club does is wrong, and everyone who shits on them is fine.
Well, no, but the club should be taking more than their fair share of the blame for this. I'd really like to hate Delph right now, but I can't as I feel he's not the main culprit.
I'm finding it hard to understand the anger towards Delph. Do you think it was his idea to come out with those comments? I'm angry towards the club for letting his contract run down, agreeing to an 8m release clause (although they may not have had a choice, we don't know), making and releasing that video, the kit promos that were released only a few days ago. I'd love an explanation for those things.
So basically, everything the club does is wrong, and everyone who shits on them is fine.
Well, no, but the club should be taking more than their fair share of the blame for this. I'd really like to hate Delph right now, but I can't as I feel he's not the main culprit.
Why do people keep saying Gil is back in the fold?
The way I see it is that it was a bit of "decency" that has spectacularly backfired as a result of the club making a bigger deal of him signing up than it was worth (and incidentally I remember quite a few on here giving collymore stick for calling it exactly as it appears will happen).I'm finding it hard to understand the anger towards Delph. Do you think it was his idea to come out with those comments? I'm angry towards the club for letting his contract run down, agreeing to an 8m release clause (although they may not have had a choice, we don't know), making and releasing that video, the kit promos that were released only a few days ago. I'd love an explanation for those things.
So basically, everything the club does is wrong, and everyone who shits on them is fine.
Well, no, but the club should be taking more than their fair share of the blame for this. I'd really like to hate Delph right now, but I can't as I feel he's not the main culprit.
So the player who tells fans that he was here 'for the long haul' then decides to piss off a few moths later is not the main culprit? Really?
Must confess I am gutted Delph is leaving. However having thought about it , he is a good player but not a great player. The reason he was important for the team is that the rest of them mainly are so poor at the level that we are playing at, not that he is outstanding. If he was leaving Arsenal their supporters wouldn't give it a second thought but to us it is more important because of what we have got left at the club.
Is he in Portugal with the rest of the team or Manchester, he's not actually signed for them yet has he?He didn't go to Portugal as his wife's baby is due and he is having his medical at City this weekend.
Nobody comes out of this with any credit.
Delph has shown himself to be used by the marketeers.
The marketing department look stupid with interviews and using his images on the new kit launch.
Fox and Lerner should have negotiated a much higher release clause (would a barrier of say £15m have put anyone serious off).
Why do people keep saying Gil is back in the fold?
I was just about to ask the same thing
As far as I'm concerned, as soon as it's confirmed he's in talks/having a medical, then the thread should be locked. At this stage all the vitriol being expressed is just a waste of our energy. There are more important things in the future of Aston Villa to concentrate on and hopefully look forward to than the footballing career of a player who lied to us about wanting to be here.
As far as I'm concerned, as soon as it's confirmed he's in talks/having a medical, then the thread should be locked. At this stage all the vitriol being expressed is just a waste of our energy. There are more important things in the future of Aston Villa to concentrate on and hopefully look forward to than the footballing career of a player who lied to us about wanting to be here.
As far as I'm concerned, as soon as it's confirmed he's in talks/having a medical, then the thread should be locked. At this stage all the vitriol being expressed is just a waste of our energy. There are more important things in the future of Aston Villa to concentrate on and hopefully look forward to than the footballing career of a player who lied to us about wanting to be here.
Is he in Portugal with the rest of the team or Manchester, he's not actually signed for them yet has he?He didn't go to Portugal as his wife's baby is due and he is having his medical at City this weekend.
As far as I'm concerned, as soon as it's confirmed he's in talks/having a medical, then the thread should be locked. At this stage all the vitriol being expressed is just a waste of our energy. There are more important things in the future of Aston Villa to concentrate on and hopefully look forward to than the footballing career of a player who lied to us about wanting to be here.As far as I'm concerned, as soon as it's confirmed he's in talks/having a medical, then the thread should be locked. At this stage all the vitriol being expressed is just a waste of our energy. There are more important things in the future of Aston Villa to concentrate on and hopefully look forward to than the footballing career of a player who lied to us about wanting to be here.
Cobblers. I want to work myself into an impotent rage.
As far as I'm concerned, as soon as it's confirmed he's in talks/having a medical, then the thread should be locked. At this stage all the vitriol being expressed is just a waste of our energy. There are more important things in the future of Aston Villa to concentrate on and hopefully look forward to than the footballing career of a player who lied to us about wanting to be here.As far as I'm concerned, as soon as it's confirmed he's in talks/having a medical, then the thread should be locked. At this stage all the vitriol being expressed is just a waste of our energy. There are more important things in the future of Aston Villa to concentrate on and hopefully look forward to than the footballing career of a player who lied to us about wanting to be here.
Cobblers. I want to work myself into an impotent rage.
Twice?
I'm finding it hard to understand the anger towards Delph. Do you think it was his idea to come out with those comments? I'm angry towards the club for letting his contract run down, agreeing to an 8m release clause (although they may not have had a choice, we don't know), making and releasing that video, the kit promos that were released only a few days ago. I'd love an explanation for those things.
So basically, everything the club does is wrong, and everyone who shits on them is fine.
Well, no, but the club should be taking more than their fair share of the blame for this. I'd really like to hate Delph right now, but I can't as I feel he's not the main culprit.
So the player who tells fans that he was here 'for the long haul' then decides to piss off a few moths later is not the main culprit? Really?
Do you have proof that the club came up with it?I'm finding it hard to understand the anger towards Delph. Do you think it was his idea to come out with those comments? I'm angry towards the club for letting his contract run down, agreeing to an 8m release clause (although they may not have had a choice, we don't know), making and releasing that video, the kit promos that were released only a few days ago. I'd love an explanation for those things.
So basically, everything the club does is wrong, and everyone who shits on them is fine.
Well, no, but the club should be taking more than their fair share of the blame for this. I'd really like to hate Delph right now, but I can't as I feel he's not the main culprit.
So the player who tells fans that he was here 'for the long haul' then decides to piss off a few moths later is not the main culprit? Really?
Yup as I don't think it was his idea. If you have proof Delph came up with the idea of the video and the kit promos, I'll change my view.
I'm finding it hard to understand the anger towards Delph. Do you think it was his idea to come out with those comments? I'm angry towards the club for letting his contract run down, agreeing to an 8m release clause (although they may not have had a choice, we don't know), making and releasing that video, the kit promos that were released only a few days ago. I'd love an explanation for those things.
So basically, everything the club does is wrong, and everyone who shits on them is fine.
Well, no, but the club should be taking more than their fair share of the blame for this. I'd really like to hate Delph right now, but I can't as I feel he's not the main culprit.
So the player who tells fans that he was here 'for the long haul' then decides to piss off a few moths later is not the main culprit? Really?
Yup as I don't think it was his idea. If you have proof Delph came up with the idea of the video and the kit promos, I'll change my view.
As far as I'm concerned, as soon as it's confirmed he's in talks/having a medical, then the thread should be locked. At this stage all the vitriol being expressed is just a waste of our energy. There are more important things in the future of Aston Villa to concentrate on and hopefully look forward to than the footballing career of a player who lied to us about wanting to be here.As far as I'm concerned, as soon as it's confirmed he's in talks/having a medical, then the thread should be locked. At this stage all the vitriol being expressed is just a waste of our energy. There are more important things in the future of Aston Villa to concentrate on and hopefully look forward to than the footballing career of a player who lied to us about wanting to be here.
Cobblers. I want to work myself into an impotent rage.
Twice?
I might go for three, I'm that impotent, no, not that, angry.
Well goodbye Fabian. No hard feelings but you will never be fit to lace the boots of midfielders such as Morty, Sid or Alex Alex Cropley.To be fair, very few ever will be.
http://www.adifferentleague.co.uk/2015/07/premier-league/fabian-delphs-move-from-aston-villa-to-manchester-city-leaves-a-foul-taste/
I think this just about sums things up nicely.
What really sums up how much we are being mugged off is the rumour that a price tag of 15m is not scaring us from going after Townsend.....To me, that just demonstrates incompetence of the highest order.
What a lying, duplicitous toe rag. Fuck him, and the horse he rode in on. I hope he rots in their stiffs.
Fuck him, don't want him
There must be a lot of people on here going back through the last few pages and frantically pressing the delete button. :)
There must be a lot of people on here going back through the last few pages and frantically pressing the delete button. :)
I was accused of being a nose last night for not laying into him.
Enjoying reading some of last nights posts!! Feeling pretty smug now.There must be a lot of people on here going back through the last few pages and frantically pressing the delete button. :)
I was accused of being a nose last night for not laying into him.
Shut it nose
The release clause is still there, it's not gone away, but if he has another 'ever present' (or close to it) season for us and makes the Euros squad and team, then he can probably go next year.
Enjoying reading some of last nights posts!! Feeling pretty smug now.There must be a lot of people on here going back through the last few pages and frantically pressing the delete button. :)
I was accused of being a nose last night for not laying into him.
Shut it nose
I don't get it? What's going on?
Arrrrrrr, now I get it.I don't get it? What's going on?
It all started a long, long time ago. Then there was this big bang.
I'm laughing like a drain here.
I do think that £8 million release clause still looms rather large.
Apparently he told the club and team mates he was off so he has either changed his mind or dare I say failed the medical..
From Bluemoon
Ric said: ↑
Not to do with the medical as such, but an issue with the player rather than the club holding it up.
As mentioned before, I'm not "ITK" - just passing on what I've been told.
Sounds like he is having second thoughts about moving to City then. IF that rumour is true.
Apparently he told the club and team mates he was off so he has either changed his mind or dare I say failed the medical..
I just Fabian had second thoughts.. England Squad, captain of a great club..
Like everybody else I am shocked and I don't know what to think. Perhaps he has been told information that we are not privvy to. Perhaps the takeover is imminent. Perhaps, perhaps,perhaps.
Anyway Fabian Delph I am glad you are staying.
Question I have is, why the change of heart?Maybe we've upped his package ?
Top bloke, never doubted his integrity ::)
Or perhaps there was no reversal at all and Delph was simply with his missus looking forward to a new baby and not really bothering to read the tabloid invention of the day.
Question I have is, why the change of heart?Maybe we've upped his package ?
Like everybody else I am shocked and I don't know what to think. Perhaps he has been told information that we are not privvy to. Perhaps the takeover is imminent. Perhaps, perhaps,perhaps.
Anyway Fabian Delph I am glad you are staying.
You will find other sites linking it with Randy apparently flying in...
I don't feel let down by Delphs statement a few months ago, because I just don't take much of what they say seriously,
its all just marketing bullshit and spin, I doubt any footballer has ever written down more than a couple of sentences themselves, its not that they are liers they are just part of a system of corporate flannelling
when we sign a new player and he comes in with ' its really great to be here, villa are a massive club' we all think oh he seems genuinely glad to be at VP, but in truth its just football small talk, theres no point taking it to heart, yes they will be glad at a certain level, wages big club, but in reality don't expect any loyalty because villa arnt good enough at the moment to command that
Giggs Scholes were loyal to Man Utd, were they ?
or maybe it was because they were both great players playing at a club that won the league more times than not, bet they wouldn't have been so loyal if they were at Crystal Palace
for those who feel hurt and let down by Delph and are over the age of 14 then you need to get a grip, footballers talk shit, and they will carry on talking shit,
the next one that comes through the door at VP and starts telling everyone his delight in joining just don't take it to heart,
the only thing that really matters is a players performance on the pitch, what they say is on the same level as what a politician says
Delph has been great for Villa, a good captain and always gave 100% on the pitch, and that's what I will remember
I am very disappointed to see him go as I rate him highly, but I never believed a word he said about villa being 'his club'
Can see your point of view John e, but he didn't need to give out that load of tosh, just say you have signed a new contract and leave it at that.
Really no need to state how great the club is, how much he loves and owes the club something, when it's obviously utter bollox.
For me, it has changed my whole opinion of the money grabbing scumbag.
Hope he spends his time on the bench and loses his England spot, total wanker.
Question I have is, why the change of heart?Maybe we've upped his package ?
The realisation that he would not be playing first team football, spend nine months getting splinters in his bum and watch his England career go to waste?
Wife has told him she would hate being anywhere near Manchester?
*engage OT Birmingham News thread mode*
Perhaps him and his Mrs took a drive around Manchester looking for areas they might live in, realised what a pokey little dump it is, and decided England's ninth biggest city didn't offer enough for them?
*disengage OT Birmingham News thread mode*
Question I have is, why the change of heart?Maybe we've upped his package ?
The realisation that he would not be playing first team football, spend nine months getting splinters in his bum and watch his England career go to waste?
Wife has told him she would hate being anywhere near Manchester?
A little bit of alleged light shedding from the Meaning Evil:
"The captain was 100% on the way to Manchester City this time yesterday but Villa officials say he had a complete change of heart.
Delph was due for a medical at City today after agreeing personal terms yesterday but he decided not to attend and stay at Villa."
A little bit of alleged light shedding from the Meaning Evil:
"The captain was 100% on the way to Manchester City this time yesterday but Villa officials say he had a complete change of heart.
Delph was due for a medical at City today after agreeing personal terms yesterday but he decided not to attend and stay at Villa."
Question I have is, why the change of heart?Maybe we've upped his package ?
The realisation that he would not be playing first team football, spend nine months getting splinters in his bum and watch his England career go to waste?
Wife has told him she would hate being anywhere near Manchester?
I'm in Chichester and that's too bloody close to Manchester
Looks like a lot of people owe the man an apology
*engage OT Birmingham News thread mode*
Perhaps him and his Mrs took a drive around Manchester looking for areas they might live in, realised what a pokey little dump it is, and decided England's ninth biggest city didn't offer enough for them?
*disengage OT Birmingham News thread mode*
*engage OT Birmingham News thread mode*
Perhaps him and his Mrs took a drive around Manchester looking for areas they might live in, realised what a pokey little dump it is, and decided England's ninth biggest city didn't offer enough for them?
*disengage OT Birmingham News thread mode*
I imagine him and his Mrs spent an hour driving around listened to those dopey accents and thought not only can they not stand it but they weren't going to bring their kids up to sound like that.
Like everybody else I am shocked and I don't know what to think. Perhaps he has been told information that we are not privvy to. Perhaps the takeover is imminent. Perhaps, perhaps,perhaps.
Anyway Fabian Delph I am glad you are staying.
You will find other sites linking it with Randy apparently flying in...
That could be. It seems pretty well known that the 2 have a good relationship and Delph is meant to be very grateful to Lerner for his help during his injury rehab. It's meant to be why he agreed a new contract (seemingly with the clause) rather than walk away on a free in the first place.
*engage OT Birmingham News thread mode*
Perhaps him and his Mrs took a drive around Manchester looking for areas they might live in, realised what a pokey little dump it is, and decided England's ninth biggest city didn't offer enough for them?
*disengage OT Birmingham News thread mode*
I imagine him and his Mrs spent an hour driving around listened to those dopey accents and thought not only can they not stand it but they weren't going to bring their kids up to sound like that.
To be fair I wouldn't go down the dopey accents route...
*engage OT Birmingham News thread mode*
Perhaps him and his Mrs took a drive around Manchester looking for areas they might live in, realised what a pokey little dump it is, and decided England's ninth biggest city didn't offer enough for them?
*disengage OT Birmingham News thread mode*
I imagine him and his Mrs spent an hour driving around listened to those dopey accents and thought not only can they not stand it but they weren't going to bring their kids up to sound like that.
To be fair I wouldn't go down the dopey accents route...
We'll have no picking on yam-yams, thank you very much ;-)*engage OT Birmingham News thread mode*
Perhaps him and his Mrs took a drive around Manchester looking for areas they might live in, realised what a pokey little dump it is, and decided England's ninth biggest city didn't offer enough for them?
*disengage OT Birmingham News thread mode*
I imagine him and his Mrs spent an hour driving around listened to those dopey accents and thought not only can they not stand it but they weren't going to bring their kids up to sound like that.
To be fair I wouldn't go down the dopey accents route...
Most Birmingham isn't yam yam which we get tagged with.
Some people on here are looking real silly after these new developments.
It is possible that Delph discussed this possible move with City officials and heard something that didn't sound quite right. Mr Delph is after all a straight talking Yorkshireman and probably thought bugger it Im staying where I am, and bugger the money!
Some people on here are looking real silly after these new developments.
Can a friendly mod delete my last 20 odd posts?
I wonder if all this began with the "chat" with Richards. Gets picked up by one media outlet, then others, not wanting to be left out and risk feeling their editor's wrath, start adding their own "apparently" slant, up to a point where one of them starts doing the maths and calculates that on the reporting timescale, he must be due a medical this weekend. All in all, nothing more than the pervasive trait of our press simply regurgitating each other's stories, and not bothering to do any actual work. If it turns out to be bollocks, then nobody, other than us lot, cares. If it happens, they get to say "told ya". There's been nothing from Villa, from City, from Sherwood, from Pelligrini, from the player, from his agent even. As for Villa taking down posters and amending website pages, given this thread as an example of the vitriol that seemed to be out there, can you blame them? I stand to be corrected on all this, but I'd prefer it if it came from someone with a better source than somebody who knows somebody whose mate works behind a counter somewhere, or of that ilk.
It is possible that Delph discussed this possible move with City officials and heard something that didn't sound quite right. Mr Delph is after all a straight talking Yorkshireman and probably thought bugger it Im staying where I am, and bugger the money!
Or he phoned Geoff Boycott for advice and he said......bugger them!!
I wonder if all this began with the "chat" with Richards. Gets picked up by one media outlet, then others, not wanting to be left out and risk feeling their editor's wrath, start adding their own "apparently" slant, up to a point where one of them starts doing the maths and calculates that on the reporting timescale, he must be due a medical this weekend. All in all, nothing more than the pervasive trait of our press simply regurgitating each other's stories, and not bothering to do any actual work. If it turns out to be bollocks, then nobody, other than us lot, cares. If it happens, they get to say "told ya". There's been nothing from Villa, from City, from Sherwood, from Pelligrini, from the player, from his agent even. As for Villa taking down posters and amending website pages, given this thread as an example of the vitriol that seemed to be out there, can you blame them? I stand to be corrected on all this, but I'd prefer it if it came from someone with a better source than somebody who knows somebody whose mate works behind a counter somewhere, or of that ilk.
I'm just delighted he has said £2.5m pay rise, nah thanks, I've thought about it, but I'd rather play for the Villa
wtf
give him a wage rise and put the release clause to 14 million please ;)
As for the Evil, maybe its Villa correspondents should be redeployed doing something more akin to their abilities. I'm sure there are plenty of summer fêtes and flower shows they could cover.
It is possible that Delph discussed this possible move with City officials and heard something that didn't sound quite right. Mr Delph is after all a straight talking Yorkshireman and probably thought bugger it Im staying where I am, and bugger the money!
No reason he can't get a pay bump here.
I don't understand why some supporters are surprised at the abuse he received yesterday. He came within a hair if doing exactly what he said he wouldn't do. The "change of heart/u-turn" is great but it shouldn't have even gotten to that point after his verbal commitment to the club in January against Bournemouth. He allowed the situation to escalate, considered taking his talents elsewhere and that was ten times more shameful than what a few silly fans posted on his Instagram.
Glad he's staying. But again, he negotiated the clause so he could leave and his wavering loyalty put him in a bad light. If Randy intervened that's even better, but a quick conversation with Scott or micah really should've sealed it. I'm not apologetic for being upset.
Maybe, just maybe journalists are a bunch of pillocks who make shit up.
I'm laughing like a drain here.
Looks like a lot of people owe the man an apology
He was off mate.. like dust off your hands, never look back, off. I'm just as happy as the rest of you that he's staying, but he was one foot out the door. I think we had every right to be as angry as we were. I'm glad he cleared up all the speculation but it seems like he brought all of this on himself.
Thanks for staying, but I could do without the fuggin around.
I kinda missed the furore yesterday other than texts,
what exactly was said (by whom)
and what do we know know is fact?
Did Man City trigger the clause and Delph rejected them?
Do we know for certain that the clause exists?
Have a look back. Page 106 was where I was accused of being a nose because I would not slate him. 😙I kinda missed the furore yesterday other than texts,
what exactly was said (by whom)
and what do we know know is fact?
Did Man City trigger the clause and Delph rejected them?
Do we know for certain that the clause exists?
Nothing official by anyone.
Nothing.
Dunno, dunno.
No.
so now he's staying where has the 9million for Gueye come from?Does it need to have come from somewhere other than normal income that the club has?
Because the media had him down as all but in a Man City shirt does not make it a fact he was definitely going. It also doesn't necessarily make it a U turn either. There may well have been interest, Man City may well have talked to his agent but that might be as far as this thing got. The other conjecture is this release clause. Might that not be media driven too?
Because the media had him down as all but in a Man City shirt does not make it a fact he was definitely going. It also doesn't necessarily make it a U turn either. There may well have been interest, Man City may well have talked to his agent but that might be as far as this thing got. The other conjecture is this release clause. Might that not be media driven too?
I notice that one of the City blog sites now has him changing his mind AFTER he'd had his medical.
Still to see just one shred of evidence that this deal was ever even on.
I'm pretty sure it was on.
Have a look back. Page 106 was where I was accused of being a nose because I would not slate him. 😙I kinda missed the furore yesterday other than texts,
what exactly was said (by whom)
and what do we know know is fact?
Did Man City trigger the clause and Delph rejected them?
Do we know for certain that the clause exists?
Nothing official by anyone.
Nothing.
Dunno, dunno.
No.
Because the media had him down as all but in a Man City shirt does not make it a fact he was definitely going. It also doesn't necessarily make it a U turn either. There may well have been interest, Man City may well have talked to his agent but that might be as far as this thing got. The other conjecture is this release clause. Might that not be media driven too?
I'm inclined, given its persistence, to believe it exists. BUT with the proviso that we went down.
Oh ok. So take it back 30% or so.Have a look back. Page 106 was where I was accused of being a nose because I would not slate him. 😙I kinda missed the furore yesterday other than texts,
what exactly was said (by whom)
and what do we know know is fact?
Did Man City trigger the clause and Delph rejected them?
Do we know for certain that the clause exists?
Nothing official by anyone.
Nothing.
Dunno, dunno.
No.
People have different settings (i.e 5/50 posts per page etc)
Talksport are going to discuss Delph at 9pm. Didn't catch whole host is but he thinks it's brilliant that Delph turned down a money move because of loyalty to us.
I notice that one of the City blog sites now has him changing his mind AFTER he'd had his medical.
Still to see just one shred of evidence that this deal was ever even on.
OK, even if we assume that virtually every single media outlet in the country was wrong, why did Villa take him off the website and his posters down from the the shops if nothing was going on?
Talksport are going to discuss Delph at 9pm. Didn't catch whole host is but he thinks it's brilliant that Delph turned down a money move because of loyalty to us.
Tuned in.
Never expected to hear this news. I was certain he was off. Obviously he was big enough to think "can I really do this to a club that's stuck by me in hard times". Well done Fabian.
Oh and Rodney Marsh is a Grade 1 pillock.
@RodneyMarsh10 Delph happy to stay at a club going nowhere rather than trying win a place at City. Interesting.
@RodneyMarsh10 Great. Sitting by the pool in Florida drinking Starbucks and reading tweets from dopey Villa fans.
But if they did, you still believe he'll stay ?
Yes. I trust him. What he said when he signed the contract goes above and beyond what he needed to say. That we're in a year when players are competing for places at the Euros also changes things slightly as well.
He'd be an idiot to leave and I don't think he's an idiot.
Delph will be a Villa player on the 1st of September 2015 (or whatever is the day after the window shuts). Mark my words.
You have no reason to feel smug it's not as if you said he was staying. You just disagreed with the belting he was getting and to be honest that was all justified of he had gone.Enjoying reading some of last nights posts!! Feeling pretty smug now.There must be a lot of people on here going back through the last few pages and frantically pressing the delete button. :)
I was accused of being a nose last night for not laying into him.
Shut it nose
Not entirely convinced by it all, especially if he failed their medical. And city probably won't go away. Still not 100% sure about thism, sounds dubiousWhat makes you think he failed their medical? It's reported that he did not travel there for a medical.
Not entirely convinced by it all, especially if he failed their medical. And city probably won't go away. Still not 100% sure about thism, sounds dubiousWhat makes you think he failed their medical? It's reported that he did not travel there for a medical.
You have no reason to feel smug it's not as if you said he was staying. You just disagreed with the belting he was getting and to be honest that was all justified of he had gone.Enjoying reading some of last nights posts!! Feeling pretty smug now.There must be a lot of people on here going back through the last few pages and frantically pressing the delete button. :)
I was accused of being a nose last night for not laying into him.
Shut it nose
So, people who have no idea at all then?Not entirely convinced by it all, especially if he failed their medical. And city probably won't go away. Still not 100% sure about thism, sounds dubiousWhat makes you think he failed their medical? It's reported that he did not travel there for a medical.
Article on Facebook by My Old Man.com
Not entirely convinced by it all, especially if he failed their medical. And city probably won't go away. Still not 100% sure about thism, sounds dubiousWhat makes you think he failed their medical? It's reported that he did not travel there for a medical.
Article on Facebook by My Old Man.com
Not entirely convinced by it all, especially if he failed their medical. And city probably won't go away. Still not 100% sure about thism, sounds dubiousWhat makes you think he failed their medical? It's reported that he did not travel there for a medical.
Article on Facebook by My Old Man.com
You have no reason to feel smug it's not as if you said he was staying. You just disagreed with the belting he was getting and to be honest that was all justified of he had gone.Enjoying reading some of last nights posts!! Feeling pretty smug now.There must be a lot of people on here going back through the last few pages and frantically pressing the delete button. :)
I was accused of being a nose last night for not laying into him.
Shut it nose
But he didn't go so it wasn't justified.
Timothy Leary.
I never said it was true. We have all spent 24 hours wondering what's been going on. We still don't other than he's said he's now staying.
Go on, punch him!
I don't mind if the release clause exists, in many ways it demonstrates the integrity of the man.Like Benteke I think if they give is another good season then they can both go fair and square after the Euros .
At some point he can leave, just like any other player, but that is the future and having him here next year is a huge bonus, especially when you consider he could've left for free.
If he leaves then he's going to look rather stupid after what he said when he signed.
True, but he wouldn't be the first player to knife the club in the back. Downing anyone?
Come on let's have a bit of faith in Fabian. Can't we see what he said was honest. Downing not 100% and I think that amount of money offered had to be taken.. But actually cleverly although on loan let villa down. He grew up in Bradford too . and we gave him a lifeline developed then leaves.
Let's trust delph!!! anyone who thinks he will leave and says so shud be reminded every game our captain plays this coming season that he's a loyal man
I don't mind if the release clause exists, in many ways it demonstrates the integrity of the man.Like Benteke I think if they give is another good season then they can both go fair and square after the Euros .
At some point he can leave, just like any other player, but that is the future and having him here next year is a huge bonus, especially when you consider he could've left for free.
Yes, very much so, nothing changed on that front.I don't mind if the release clause exists, in many ways it demonstrates the integrity of the man.Like Benteke I think if they give is another good season then they can both go fair and square after the Euros .
At some point he can leave, just like any other player, but that is the future and having him here next year is a huge bonus, especially when you consider he could've left for free.
The result at Southampton still making sense? ;)
Delph is actually better than that has been Utd signed injury prone middlefield . Schweinsteiger was what delphie is now and becoming a dynamic midfielder who is loyal I believe after 17 years service he can go
City Watch @City_Watch
Delph called off his move "after a sleepless night reading angry reactions from fans of the Midlands club" according to the Mirror.
10:05 PM - 11 Jul 2015
City Watch @City_Watch
Delph called off his move "after a sleepless night reading angry reactions from fans of the Midlands club" according to the Mirror.
10:05 PM - 11 Jul 2015
City Watch @City_Watch
Delph called off his move "after a sleepless night reading angry reactions from fans of the Midlands club" according to the Mirror.
10:05 PM - 11 Jul 2015
I reckon that is utter bollocks. I'd be stunned if fans made him change his mind. More it made more sense for him to stay one of which being he actually enjoys playing for Villa. But to think fans angry reactions were what did it is a bit far fetched.
City Watch @City_Watch
Delph called off his move "after a sleepless night reading angry reactions from fans of the Midlands club" according to the Mirror.
10:05 PM - 11 Jul 2015
Thing is this won't be put to bed until we now know exactly what happened. It appears that a medical was arranged and that he chose to pull out of the deal. The reason, and the questions he'll be asked is why? Did he lack the ambition? The belief that he was anything more than a bench warmer? Why put the clause in then> Is there a clause? Any caveats around the clause? Did he just want to stay at Villa? Why? Because of the video? Settled and happy family man? Wife, 1 young kid and another on its way and just wanted to put down firm roots? he seems happy at Villa and settled. Maybe the 8m clause was put in there in case he got the offer so that he could decide what to do with his career - it came but his and his family's happiness came first and maybe he decided he really didn't want to upsticks.
Double postClassic
City Watch @City_Watch
Delph called off his move "after a sleepless night reading angry reactions from fans of the Midlands club" according to the Mirror.
10:05 PM - 11 Jul 2015
No, but the question will be asked and asked again by the media. and there is a story there.
City Watch @City_Watch
Delph called off his move "after a sleepless night reading angry reactions from fans of the Midlands club" according to the Mirror.
10:05 PM - 11 Jul 2015
No, but the question will be asked and asked again by the media. and there is a story there.
They won't ask it; they'll move on to their next exclusive. He's staying and that's all there is to it.
No, but the question will be asked and asked again by the media. and there is a story there.
They won't ask it; they'll move on to their next exclusive. He's staying and that's all there is to it.
Could do but at this time of year when there is little else to talk about I think they'll look for an answer. Also, who was the last player to turn down a Champions League team? Especially at the 11th hour? Its odd. I agree that it'll blow over quickly but I think it won't go away just yet.
WM broke the story of the medical didn't they? They and the Mail will want to know the reason for him staying for a start.
Apparently Rodney Marsh said he changed his mind after clearly being told that he would not make any starts and if selected will be on the bench but he said he would love to hear it from Delph as to why he changed his mind? Make what you like of that!
Well I'm hardly holding my breath as I'm just happy he's not moving. But you can't tell me you're not even in the slightest bit curious.
City Watch @City_Watch
Delph called off his move "after a sleepless night reading angry reactions from fans of the Midlands club" according to the Mirror.
10:05 PM - 11 Jul 2015
I reckon that is utter bollocks. I'd be stunned if fans made him change his mind. More it made more sense for him to stay one of which being he actually enjoys playing for Villa. But to think fans angry reactions were what did it is a bit far fetched.
Sounds more like someone's trying to make excuses for being totally wrong.
Apparently Rodney Marsh said he changed his mind after clearly being told that he would not make any starts and if selected will be on the bench but he said he would love to hear it from Delph as to why he changed his mind? Make what you like of that!
Rodney Marsh is a prat.
Apparently Rodney Marsh said he changed his mind after clearly being told that he would not make any starts and if selected will be on the bench but he said he would love to hear it from Delph as to why he changed his mind? Make what you like of that!
Rodney Marsh is a prat.
I love the idea of that. So Citeh say 'right we want to sign you Fabian' and Fab says 'sounds good' and then they say 'but your best case scenario is you'll make the bench and you definitely won't start'. Utter bollocks.
"met Delph today, quizzed him on the City move and he said it was never on the cards and he loves the Villa"
"met Delph today, quizzed him on the City move and he said it was never on the cards and he loves the Villa"
Which flies in the face of him ever having a medical arranged at Man City. I'm not sure but didn't the BBC story came from WM ? So, did our lovely local station just make it all up?
"met Delph today, quizzed him on the City move and he said it was never on the cards and he loves the Villa"
Which flies in the face of him ever having a medical arranged at Man City. I'm not sure but didn't the BBC story came from WM ? So, did our lovely local station just make it all up?
City Watch @City_Watch
Delph called off his move "after a sleepless night reading angry reactions from fans of the Midlands club" according to the Mirror.
10:05 PM - 11 Jul 2015
I reckon that is utter bollocks. I'd be stunned if fans made him change his mind. More it made more sense for him to stay one of which being he actually enjoys playing for Villa. But to think fans angry reactions were what did it is a bit far fetched.
Sounds more like someone's trying to make excuses for being totally wrong.
Yep.
I spoke to somoene yesterday who knows Fabian pretty well and he doesn't think he's leaving from what he's said to him.
Apparently Rodney Marsh said he changed his mind after clearly being told that he would not make any starts and if selected will be on the bench but he said he would love to hear it from Delph as to why he changed his mind? Make what you like of that!
Rodney Marsh is a prat.
I love the idea of that. So Citeh say 'right we want to sign you Fabian' and Fab says 'sounds good' and then they say 'but your best case scenario is you'll make the bench and you definitely won't start'. Utter bollocks.
Like he's privy to City's transfer and contract negotiations.
Like I said, he's a prat.
Apparently Rodney Marsh said he changed his mind after clearly being told that he would not make any starts and if selected will be on the bench but he said he would love to hear it from Delph as to why he changed his mind? Make what you like of that!
Rodney Marsh is a prat.
I love the idea of that. So Citeh say 'right we want to sign you Fabian' and Fab says 'sounds good' and then they say 'but your best case scenario is you'll make the bench and you definitely won't start'. Utter bollocks.
Like he's privy to City's transfer and contract negotiations.
Like I said, he's a prat.
As an educated, articulate and rational man with a healthy sense of perspective, I must take issue with this mindless labelling of Rodney Marsh as a "prat". It should be quite obvious to everyone that he's a fucking prick.
I'm loving the fact that the best and most accurate report on this was the poster on Blue Moon who said he'd met Delph on a night out in Leeds a few days ago and asked him if he was going to City. "No chance".
EDIT: and Karl's above.
I'm loving the fact that the best and most accurate report on this was the poster on Blue Moon who said he'd met Delph on a night out in Leeds a few days ago and asked him if he was going to City. "No chance".
EDIT: and Karl's above.
There was also a bloke on VT who said he spoke with Hutton yesterday who told him the Delph story was bollocks.
This has been nothing more than a step in a process where we interviewed a player to assess general suitability and cost benefit. The player (Delph for those guessing) listened to the likes of Andy Gray bleating his nonsense about Milner only getting half a dozen games last season, whereas he must have started 30+ (some CL) and played in 40+ overall, and took advice from our old mate Micah, who wasn't good enough to get a game with us but who steadfastly refused to transfer because nobody else would pay him half of what we were overpaying him.
The player was nervous, was he good enough to earn a place in our 1st 11? He wasn't sure and he didn't have the courage or ambition to make the move without our guaranteeing him game-time, but we were never going to do that because it's the manager's selection and, in any case, we wouldn't want to employ a player who didn't have the courage and self confidence to want to earn his shirt.
Not a problem to the player, as he can stay at the little club where he's a big fish in a small puddle, and we can breath a big sigh of relief because we found him out as the bottle merchant he was before we entered into contract . . phew . . nice one. Now move on.
Citeh fans' take on the Delph story:QuoteThis has been nothing more than a step in a process where we interviewed a player to assess general suitability and cost benefit. The player (Delph for those guessing) listened to the likes of Andy Gray bleating his nonsense about Milner only getting half a dozen games last season, whereas he must have started 30+ (some CL) and played in 40+ overall, and took advice from our old mate Micah, who wasn't good enough to get a game with us but who steadfastly refused to transfer because nobody else would pay him half of what we were overpaying him.
The player was nervous, was he good enough to earn a place in our 1st 11? He wasn't sure and he didn't have the courage or ambition to make the move without our guaranteeing him game-time, but we were never going to do that because it's the manager's selection and, in any case, we wouldn't want to employ a player who didn't have the courage and self confidence to want to earn his shirt.
Not a problem to the player, as he can stay at the little club where he's a big fish in a small puddle, and we can breath a big sigh of relief because we found him out as the bottle merchant he was before we entered into contract . . phew . . nice one. Now move on.
Citeh fans' take on the Delph story:QuoteThis has been nothing more than a step in a process where we interviewed a player to assess general suitability and cost benefit. The player (Delph for those guessing) listened to the likes of Andy Gray bleating his nonsense about Milner only getting half a dozen games last season, whereas he must have started 30+ (some CL) and played in 40+ overall, and took advice from our old mate Micah, who wasn't good enough to get a game with us but who steadfastly refused to transfer because nobody else would pay him half of what we were overpaying him.
The player was nervous, was he good enough to earn a place in our 1st 11? He wasn't sure and he didn't have the courage or ambition to make the move without our guaranteeing him game-time, but we were never going to do that because it's the manager's selection and, in any case, we wouldn't want to employ a player who didn't have the courage and self confidence to want to earn his shirt.
Not a problem to the player, as he can stay at the little club where he's a big fish in a small puddle, and we can breath a big sigh of relief because we found him out as the bottle merchant he was before we entered into contract . . phew . . nice one. Now move on.
Citeh fans' take on the Delph story:QuoteThis has been nothing more than a step in a process where we interviewed a player to assess general suitability and cost benefit. The player (Delph for those guessing) listened to the likes of Andy Gray bleating his nonsense about Milner only getting half a dozen games last season, whereas he must have started 30+ (some CL) and played in 40+ overall, and took advice from our old mate Micah, who wasn't good enough to get a game with us but who steadfastly refused to transfer because nobody else would pay him half of what we were overpaying him.
The player was nervous, was he good enough to earn a place in our 1st 11? He wasn't sure and he didn't have the courage or ambition to make the move without our guaranteeing him game-time, but we were never going to do that because it's the manager's selection and, in any case, we wouldn't want to employ a player who didn't have the courage and self confidence to want to earn his shirt.
Not a problem to the player, as he can stay at the little club where he's a big fish in a small puddle, and we can breath a big sigh of relief because we found him out as the bottle merchant he was before we entered into contract . . phew . . nice one. Now move on.
"little club....big fish in small puddle..." Oil money hasn't changed the Citeh supporters at all really has it. Tosser
"little club....big fish in small puddle..." Oil money hasn't changed the Citeh supporters at all really has it. Tosser
I don't know about "disgraceful".If it's "guesswork" which seems the case the BBC should keep it in their "gossip" section not make it the main story ??!!
It's only a football transfer, and football transfers are always surrounded by an element of guesswork.
Whilst we fully expect Talksport and Sky to constantly lie , make stuff up and get things wrong, I expect better from the BBC.
For them to run with a main headline of it being a done deal is disgraceful.
I don't know about "disgraceful".If it's "guesswork" which seems the case the BBC should keep it in their "gossip" section not make it the main story ??!!
It's only a football transfer, and football transfers are always surrounded by an element of guesswork.
As for 'assess general suitability and cost benefit,' if I ever write a phrase like that on here I hope somebody will be kind enough to point out that I am a dick.
As for 'assess general suitability and cost benefit,' if I ever write a phrase like that on here I hope somebody will be kind enough to point out that I am a dick.
As for 'assess general suitability and cost benefit,' if I ever write a phrase like that on here I hope somebody will be kind enough to point out that I am a dick.
As for 'assess general suitability and cost benefit,' if I ever write a phrase like that on here I hope somebody will be kind enough to point out that I am a dick.
Also that they "interviewed" him, like he put on a suit and tie and they asked him about his GCSEs, to make sure he's up to the challenge of getting into the starting eleven - what with Manchester City being so proven in their disdain for high profile benchwarmers.
Citeh fans' take on the Delph story:QuoteThis has been nothing more than a step in a process where we interviewed a player to assess general suitability and cost benefit. The player (Delph for those guessing) listened to the likes of Andy Gray bleating his nonsense about Milner only getting half a dozen games last season, whereas he must have started 30+ (some CL) and played in 40+ overall, and took advice from our old mate Micah, who wasn't good enough to get a game with us but who steadfastly refused to transfer because nobody else would pay him half of what we were overpaying him.
The player was nervous, was he good enough to earn a place in our 1st 11? He wasn't sure and he didn't have the courage or ambition to make the move without our guaranteeing him game-time, but we were never going to do that because it's the manager's selection and, in any case, we wouldn't want to employ a player who didn't have the courage and self confidence to want to earn his shirt.
Not a problem to the player, as he can stay at the little club where he's a big fish in a small puddle, and we can breath a big sigh of relief because we found him out as the bottle merchant he was before we entered into contract . . phew . . nice one. Now move on.
All of us, I'd imagine, have been on the brink of making one decision about our lives and changed our minds at the last minute.Yes, most Sunday evenings I go through this process.
this on Twitter earlier. Was taken today at Wetherby Food Festival near Leeds.
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@Jbuckers: Met #delph today, quizzed him on the citteh move and he said it was never on the cards and he loves the villa #avfc http://t.co/MJqX4iUral
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Stolen from Villatalk, which was taken from twitter. But its too good to not share.
Apparently Rodney Marsh said he changed his mind after clearly being told that he would not make any starts and if selected will be on the bench but he said he would love to hear it from Delph as to why he changed his mind? Make what you like of that!
Whilst we fully expect Talksport and Sky to constantly lie , make stuff up and get things wrong, I expect better from the BBC.
For them to run with a main headline of it being a done deal is disgraceful.
I think football has moved on for journalists as well. With the likes of Sky Sports News going 24/7 and the online output I bet the pressure to keep ahead of the story is huge. Also they can't just chuck £500 at a player to get an inside exclusive about another player like they could've 20 years ago.
I reckon their genuine sources have decreased while the pressure and media cycle has increased.
Hence they put 2 and 2 together to make 5 a lot. They just guess, they have to.
City Watch @City_Watch
Delph called off his move "after a sleepless night reading angry reactions from fans of the Midlands club" according to the Mirror.
10:05 PM - 11 Jul 2015
At least the Mirror named their source, a Mr A Source. Clever bloke, him, knows loads about loads.
Stay at the little club eh! Short memories some folk. The City fans I have chatted to in the past have seemed decent, this one sounds like a right prat.Citeh fans' take on the Delph story:QuoteThis has been nothing more than a step in a process where we interviewed a player to assess general suitability and cost benefit. The player (Delph for those guessing) listened to the likes of Andy Gray bleating his nonsense about Milner only getting half a dozen games last season, whereas he must have started 30+ (some CL) and played in 40+ overall, and took advice from our old mate Micah, who wasn't good enough to get a game with us but who steadfastly refused to transfer because nobody else would pay him half of what we were overpaying him.
The player was nervous, was he good enough to earn a place in our 1st 11? He wasn't sure and he didn't have the courage or ambition to make the move without our guaranteeing him game-time, but we were never going to do that because it's the manager's selection and, in any case, we wouldn't want to employ a player who didn't have the courage and self confidence to want to earn his shirt.
Not a problem to the player, as he can stay at the little club where he's a big fish in a small puddle, and we can breath a big sigh of relief because we found him out as the bottle merchant he was before we entered into contract . . phew . . nice one. Now move on.
Haha, what a cockend.
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Stolen from Villatalk, which was taken from twitter. But its too good to not share.
Equally, it's too good not to add the finishing touch to.
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Westwood reckons they new he wasn't leaving....
http://www1.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/9910647/westwood-we-knew-delph-wasnt-leaving?
Westwood said on Sky Sports that the players were in contact with him and knew he was staying.
Citeh fans' take on the Delph story:QuoteThis has been nothing more than a step in a process where we interviewed a player to assess general suitability and cost benefit. The player (Delph for those guessing) listened to the likes of Andy Gray bleating his nonsense about Milner only getting half a dozen games last season, whereas he must have started 30+ (some CL) and played in 40+ overall, and took advice from our old mate Micah, who wasn't good enough to get a game with us but who steadfastly refused to transfer because nobody else would pay him half of what we were overpaying him.
The player was nervous, was he good enough to earn a place in our 1st 11? He wasn't sure and he didn't have the courage or ambition to make the move without our guaranteeing him game-time, but we were never going to do that because it's the manager's selection and, in any case, we wouldn't want to employ a player who didn't have the courage and self confidence to want to earn his shirt.
Not a problem to the player, as he can stay at the little club where he's a big fish in a small puddle, and we can breath a big sigh of relief because we found him out as the bottle merchant he was before we entered into contract . . phew . . nice one. Now move on.
I predict he's a Citeh fan from about 2011 onwards.
You don't say:Bugger, I am regurgitating stuff that's already out there. A career with a newspaper beckons.Westwood said on Sky Sports that the players were in contact with him and knew he was staying.
You don't say:Bugger, I am regurgitating stuff that's already out there. A career with a newspaper beckons.Westwood said on Sky Sports that the players were in contact with him and knew he was staying.
Citeh fans' take on the Delph story:QuoteThis has been nothing more than a step in a process where we interviewed a player to assess general suitability and cost benefit. The player (Delph for those guessing) listened to the likes of Andy Gray bleating his nonsense about Milner only getting half a dozen games last season, whereas he must have started 30+ (some CL) and played in 40+ overall, and took advice from our old mate Micah, who wasn't good enough to get a game with us but who steadfastly refused to transfer because nobody else would pay him half of what we were overpaying him.
The player was nervous, was he good enough to earn a place in our 1st 11? He wasn't sure and he didn't have the courage or ambition to make the move without our guaranteeing him game-time, but we were never going to do that because it's the manager's selection and, in any case, we wouldn't want to employ a player who didn't have the courage and self confidence to want to earn his shirt.
Not a problem to the player, as he can stay at the little club where he's a big fish in a small puddle, and we can breath a big sigh of relief because we found him out as the bottle merchant he was before we entered into contract . . phew . . nice one. Now move on.
I predict he's a Citeh fan from about 2011 onwards.
Spot on Paul. No proper Man City fan I know - and I know a few - would say that about Villa. They know exactly how much of a joke club they used to be - at one time they were more of a joke than Newcastle have ever been - and how little it can take to go back there. Toure, Aguerro et al's feet wouldn't touch the ground to get out of there if the money dried up, and even with it they can't really attract the top talent. All served up in the most soulless ground in the Premier League which makes the Emirates look like a Clash concert
I don't have a problem with Citeh. They were getting decent crowds in the third division a few years ago. They are a traditional club unlike fcukin Chavski. All clubs have their delusional idiots. Just hope we can compete at that level one days.
I don't have a problem with Citeh. They were getting decent crowds in the third division a few years ago. They are a traditional club unlike fcukin Chavski. All clubs have their delusional idiots. Just hope we can compete at that level one days.
So now we are a small puddle..!! That made me chuckle. I am proud to be one of the small puddles...at least we have some soul left. The big puddles can't seem to get their heads round the fact that money can't buy everything. It can buy you lots of plastic wankers but it can't buy you soul. I look forward to the new season with the rest of the small puddles at the historic Villa Park.
I don't have a problem with Citeh. They were getting decent crowds in the third division a few years ago. They are a traditional club unlike fcukin Chavski. All clubs have their delusional idiots. Just hope we can compete at that level one days.Manchester City have never been relegated to the Third Division. and certainly not a few years ago.
I don't have a problem with Citeh. They were getting decent crowds in the third division a few years ago. They are a traditional club unlike fcukin Chavski. All clubs have their delusional idiots. Just hope we can compete at that level one days.Manchester City have never been relegated to the Third Division. and certainly not a few years ago.
I don't have a problem with Citeh. They were getting decent crowds in the third division a few years ago. They are a traditional club unlike fcukin Chavski. All clubs have their delusional idiots. Just hope we can compete at that level one days.Manchester City have never been relegated to the Third Division. and certainly not a few years ago.
I don't have a problem with Citeh. They were getting decent crowds in the third division a few years ago. They are a traditional club unlike fcukin Chavski. All clubs have their delusional idiots. Just hope we can compete at that level one days.Manchester City have never been relegated to the Third Division. and certainly not a few years ago.
They have. They averaged over 30k like us.
I don't have a problem with Citeh. They were getting decent crowds in the third division a few years ago. They are a traditional club unlike fcukin Chavski. All clubs have their delusional idiots. Just hope we can compete at that level one days.Manchester City have never been relegated to the Third Division. and certainly not a few years ago.
Fabian Delph saved Aston Villa from relegation last season and I'm delighted he's staying, says Tim Sherwood after midfielder's Manchester City U-turn
- Fabian Delph was booked in for a medical at Manchester City on Saturday
- City manager Manuel Pellegrini had triggered the England midfielder’s £8million release clause
By Laurie Whitwell for the Daily Mail
- But Delph has instead pledged his future to Villa
Published: 19:16, 12 July 2015 | Updated: 20:02, 12 July 2015
Tim Sherwood has hailed Fabian Delph’s decision to remain at Aston Villa after confirming the club captain turned down an opportunity to join Manchester City.
Delph was booked in for a medical at City after Manuel Pellegrini triggered the England midfielder’s £8million release clause.
The 25-year-old had been poised to sign after agreeing terms but had an eleventh-hour change of heart and instead pledged his future to Villa.
‘He had an opportunity to join Man City and he weighed up his options and decided to stay with us, which we’re obviously all delighted about,’ Sherwood told AVTV.
‘We are looking to build something here and we’re looking to keep our best players. Fabian is certainly one of those.
‘It’s just an example of the measure of the guy really that he decided to stay – the loyalty he’s shown to the Aston Villa fans, the football club and the chairman. And I’m delighted to have him next season.’
Sherwood took the bold step of crediting Delph, Villa’s player of the season, with providing the defining influence in surviving relegation.
‘He’s a leader,’ said the Villa manager. ‘I could go as much as to say that if Fabian Delph wasn’t with us last season we wouldn’t be in the Premier League now.
‘He’s someone I had the ear of. He was very instrumental in what I wanted to do.
‘He knew exactly what I wanted from the team and he drove them on. It can’t always come from the manager – the instructions – sometimes someone on the pitch needs to translate that information and Fabian certainly did that.’
Delph agonised over his choice, realising that City provided an opportunity of Champions League football and Premier League titles races. He is understood to have told chief executive Tom Fox of his intention to join City.
But he dramatically changed his mind and elected to stay at Villa for regular football at a place he holds dear. He will remain with his pregnant wife Natalie until their second child is born, rather than join up with the squad in Portugal.
I think the Sterling deal made the difference.Yes I reckon the Sterling deal had something to do with it too. More than his love of Villa, anyway. Perhaps he considered he was worth more than City were offering him (even if he had agreed terms with them) especially in comparison to Sterling, his likelihood of getting the number of appearances he'd like (and the games he was likely to play in) and his England career. Well I would have done if I were him anyway. Glad he's staying obvs but I don't think club loyalty was the main reason.
Just seems odd to me that Delph is off for a medical on the Saturday which wasnt denied at either club or by the player.
The Scousers realise theyre going to be saddled with a [non-playing] wage whore for another year and go back to Citeh coupled with Sterling seeing he was not their only target possibly dropping certain demands. We'll never know.
however obviously i prefer to believe that Delph is a man of honour who loves the club more than anyone since Ian Taylor and is proud to captain us.
City fan here. Glad Delph elected to stay, I think it's absolutely the right decision. Fantastic to see Micah Richards doing his initiation song on Sky Sports News too. Hope he stays fit and serves you well. I suspect you'll have a new owner soon with the relaxation of FFP. Could be exciting times for you next season. Best of luck !
My take on this is that there was never any serious chance of Delph leaving I just think a paper got hold of a rumour that City had a slight interest and might make a move and tried to connect the dots that the move would happen. Or maybe they got a bad source and just ended up with egg on their face. I don't believe that he would suddenly decide to leave just like that just because City come calling, and I certainly believe that he would do a sharp U-Turn either.Even though Sherwood has said that the had the choice of joining them or staying with us and he chose to stay?
Could we have not just said "He stayed away from this trip because his wife is due their second child any moment. That's why he was always going to stay back." from the start?
My take on this is that there was never any serious chance of Delph leaving I just think a paper got hold of a rumour that City had a slight interest and might make a move and tried to connect the dots that the move would happen. Or maybe they got a bad source and just ended up with egg on their face. I don't believe that he would suddenly decide to leave just like that just because City come calling, and I certainly believe that he would do a sharp U-Turn either.Even though Sherwood has said that the had the choice of joining them or staying with us and he chose to stay?
That suggests a bit more than a "slight interest".
I'm really not sure why there are so many conspiracy theories about what's happened with Delph. It's fairly simple - City met the release clause, agreed terms with the player, who changed his mind before undergoing a medical. If there really hadn't been a deal on the table then I'm sure we'd have heard about it from Man City by now, rather than them allow everyone to think they'd just been turned-down by a transfer target.
I'm really not sure why there are so many conspiracy theories about what's happened with Delph. It's fairly simple - City met the release clause, agreed terms with the player, who changed his mind before undergoing a medical. If there really hadn't been a deal on the table then I'm sure we'd have heard about it from Man City by now, rather than them allow everyone to think they'd just been turned-down by a transfer target.
this is what happened as being reported by everyone from the club down
I also cant see whats so difficult to accept at face value
the bloke changed his mind, its not just a womans perogative
The club shop were even instructed to remove pictures and his stuff from the walls,
and that came from a poster who was in the shop when the news broke,
so they definitely thought he was gone
So instead of commending a player for decency and loyalty, the Mirror instead chose the slate Delph as a bottler. Disgraceful article.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/raheem-sterling-backed-himself-shine-6059140
So instead of commending a player for decency and loyalty, the Mirror instead chose the slate Delph as a bottler. Disgraceful article.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/raheem-sterling-backed-himself-shine-6059140
So instead of commending a player for decency and loyalty, the Mirror instead chose the slate Delph as a bottler. Disgraceful article.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/raheem-sterling-backed-himself-shine-6059140
Is there such a thing as a sportswriters awards dinner where the worst column of the year receives a prize.
They really don't have a clue, do they?I genuinely think they do Louzie0...they are simply masters at creating a sensational story out of nothing...a story about Delph's loyalty to a bottom 5 club is not "big" enough to sell more papers for a publication such as the Daily Mirage.
Is there such a thing as a sportswriters awards dinner where the worst column of the year receives a prize.
They really don't have a clue, do they?I genuinely think they do Louzie0...they are simply masters at creating a sensational story out of nothing...a story about Delph's loyalty to a bottom 5 club is not "big" enough to sell more papers for a publication such as the Daily Mirage.
Comparing a media darling with a gritty, down to earth lad is easy writing.
And totally based on a narrow opinion, not a measured, thoughtful response.
UTV!
Interesting that nearly three quarters of readers who voted in that article think Delph won't regret rejecting Man City.Yes clearly the football fans back his decision.
This is in the day and age where skysports have the strap line 'more of the games that matter.' Proof positive that the rest of the league are just irritants.
So instead of commending a player for decency and loyalty, the Mirror instead chose the slate Delph as a bottler. Disgraceful article.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/raheem-sterling-backed-himself-shine-6059140
Nasty article. He talks up the guy who represents all that is bad about football now.
I didn't realise that it had changed from Robbie Savage.So instead of commending a player for decency and loyalty, the Mirror instead chose the slate Delph as a bottler. Disgraceful article.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/raheem-sterling-backed-himself-shine-6059140
Nasty article. He talks up the guy who represents all that is bad about football now.
Begovic?
Fabian Delph finds his level and falls back into Aston Villa ‘comfort zone’
I have to say that it came as a terrible shock to myself and to many of my peers. A footballer turning down the opportunity to play for a bigger club, on more money, to stay with a club that has flirted with relegation in the past few seasons. What is the world coming to?
Last Saturday, though, Fabian Delph, of Aston Villa, appeared to do exactly that by spurning interest from Manchester City to return to his role of sliding around the Villa Park pitch for another four years.
According to Delph, even his team-mates were surprised that he didn’t move clubs. Maybe they should read on …
Let us now track the likely route that Delph’s career will take from this moment on. He is the captain of Villa, having replaced Ron Vlaar towards the end of last season, and the fans will revere him eventually – if they don’t already now that he’s turned down City.
And when he retires, his name will be used alongside the word “legend”, though nobody will quite know why, least of all the Villa fans.
But you and I know that, when that day comes, we’ll be talking about a man who probably won’t have won anything. He won’t be as wealthy as he could have been – if that’s a measurement that you like to use – and he won’t have any kind of name in football outside of Birmingham.
And only then because he works the executive boxes at Villa Park telling anybody who will listen how he once turned down Manchester City, who back then were a big club.
But there is an interesting point to consider here because this is something that doesn’t happen very often in football. The lure of a top club and the riches and promises of silver that come from that are usually too much to turn down.
Yet Delph isn’t an isolated case, even if he is at the forefront of something that is becoming more common in European football.
It’s a slightly different situation but take Turkey midfielder Arda Turan as an example of the lure of a big club
It’s a slightly different situation but take Turkey midfielder Arda Turan as an example of the lure of a big club with the chance of winning something consistently against the pleasure of playing regularly.
Two seasons ago, Turan’s former club, Atletico Madrid, reached the Champions League final and also pipped Barcelona to the La Liga title, their first in 18 years.
Atletico are now once more a premier European side thanks to a mix of hard work, set-piece superiority and counter-attacking talent. But then Barcelona cast their net towards the capital and paid £24 million to take Turan to the home of the current treble champions.
One problem: Barca are under a transfer embargo until January and that means that Turan, who, at 28, is at the peak of his powers, cannot kick a single ball in anger for his new club for six months.
I have never been in that exact situation but I can tell you that it is perhaps the most frustrating thing in professional football to be fit, healthy and sat in the stand in a club tracksuit.
And Turan isn’t the only player involved in what, thanks to the Financial Fair Play rules, will surely become a far more regular state of limbo for top players. Aleix Vidal, the former Sevilla right back, is in exactly the same boat at the Nou Camp.
But their new club isn’t just any old club, is it? Barcelona will be the favourites to win all before them next season and probably every year until Turan leaves the Catalan giants and maybe also Vidal, who, at 25, is three years Turan’s junior.
As is usual in tricky situations, it is always best to ask yourself what you would do before passing judgement on the next person whose personal situation you have not the first idea about?
Nobody in world football can displace Neymar, Luis Suarez and Lionel Messi at Barcelona for a combination of factors. Behind them, Andres Iniesta is one of the finest midfielders of all time while Ivan Rakitic was perhaps one of the form players of European football last season.
Sergio Busquets is a hero with brains and brawn while Sergi Roberto and Rafinha are two young players with promise waiting in the wings. Turan will play games but you have to conclude that Xavi’s departure to Qatar has simply left a space that needs filling. Nothing more than that.
But Turan has bitten the bullet nonetheless, even if he knows he may not play all the time.
You want my honest opinion? Fabian Delph knows his level
You want my honest opinion? Fabian Delph knows his level. Villa fans tell me that he wouldn’t get as many games at Manchester City. So, by definition, that means that they know that there are better players out there.
Much of what I’ve read on the subject this week has lauded Delph. Not for his loyalty – I think we all know that loyalty doesn’t exist any more, even in this case – but primarily for the fact that if he stays with Villa, he’ll play. Great.
There are two schools of thought here. The first I would call a jaw-dropping lack of ambition to improve oneself and truly test whatever ability Delph has with the best players in the world.
That has been backed up by two Manchester City players I know and have spoken to about it.
Let me tell you right now, when you play with better players, you find levels of talent and competitiveness that you never knew you had. But you have to want to do it, otherwise you fall into a category that we call “the comfort zone”.
So, forget the clubs at the heart of the matter, forget the money aspect, forget the player even.
I thought that you, the fans, had told me that the game should be about winning, about the glory? If that’s the case, then good luck Fabian, you’ll need it.
The second school of thought pertains to the fact that City need to restock their quota of homegrown English players to make their fighting weight in Europe with younger, updated versions. Nothing more than that.
At a reported £8 million buyout clause from Villa, and with City’s pockets ten times larger than a Greek bailout, Delph would have been loose change for them. Even so, business is business and there aren’t many 25-year-old England internationals out there who are available for £8 million.
The biggest shock to Delph, most likely, is that there was no other firm interest in his services from clubs bigger than Villa where he could have expected to play regularly and have a better chance of winning something.
Tottenham Hotspur and Liverpool were rumoured to be interested but didn’t move a muscle.
And that is the crux of it. Delph is an average Premier League footballer who goes to ground too easily and who is lucky to have been afforded a huge amount of time to get a chance to play regularly in what has been a struggling Premier League team.
That’s it, those are the facts.
You’re right. Delph isn’t good enough for Manchester City because he’s barely good enough for Aston Villa. Not just my opinion, by the way, but that of most players who I know in the Premier League, across just about every one of the 20 clubs.
I’d be amazed if there was ever any genuine interest in Delph, the footballer, among clubs bigger than Villa where Delph would have played regularly. So for all that, perhaps he’s made a wise choice.
While the rest of us fight it out on the forest floor, desperately reaching up to the light with the other bastards, Delph seems to be only too aware that he has found his level in what is ultimately a futile pursuit for most players.
Who knows? Maybe we’re all missing a trick.
"Barely good enough for Aston Villa"?
"Barely good enough for Aston Villa"?
Is Paul Franks moonlighting?
Milner is clearly frustrated by a view, offered by some supporters, that giving up on the City fight showed a lack of ambition.
“I would probably disagree with that,” he said. “Some people may look at it the other way and say I was not willing to sit on the bench for half a season, I wanted to play every single game and fight for a shirt and play that way, and I couldn’t see that happening at Man City.
“You can look at it any way you want, you can go away and write a story and twist it any way you want to put it. We know how it works and I can only tell you my thoughts and see it as a positive, and other people can look at it as a negative.
“Obviously it was a difficult decision. It took me a long time to make it. I probably changed my mind on a weekly basis at times. The fans were amazing with me at City and that made it very tough for me as well. City is also a great club to play football at. But playing football are the key words in that sentence."
"Barely good enough for Aston Villa"?
Is Paul Franks moonlighting?
"Barely good enough for Aston Villa"?
Is Paul Franks moonlighting?
Actually he is. I was at a sports quiz last night at Mosley Rugby club, Paul Franks was the quiz master!
When taking up a set of answers too him I asked in all seriousness "Do you think Benteke will leave the Villa" He answered as if it was a revelation, "Yes, yes I do". He didn't detect any hint of sarcasm when I stated he should have mentioned that at some time in the last 3 months. He went on to say, "I'm surprised Delph didn't go". "Don't you mean disappointed" I said. He gave me a confused look as I walked away.
That aside, we didn't win the years supply of Greene King IPA that was the first prize.
It's Dave Kitson isn't it?
It's Dave Kitson isn't it?
To be fair, you'd think he might recommend caution given how badly his own big money move to a bigger club went.It's Dave Kitson isn't it?
Who to be fair would have no concept of being loved by his own supporters or playing regular international football, so you can understand why he's confused by all of this.
taking up a set of answers too him I asked in all seriousness "Do you think Benteke will leave the Villa" He answered as if it was a revelation, "Yes, yes I do". He didn't detect any hint of sarcasm when I stated he should have mentioned that at some time in the last 3 months. He went on to say, "I'm surprised Delph didn't go". "Don't you mean disappointed" I said. He gave me a confused look as I walked away.
That clause was always likely to be an issue for the club but with everybody now knowing about it, it makes it far worse. Every time he gets linked to a move, everyone's going to get worried that he's going to leave.
Putting the clause in means delph wanted to have the option of going. It came and he didn't take it so the question is why? What's changed? Maybe because he seems to be first choice in England's midfield is the biggest sway football wise. Maybe it is the so-called lack of bottle, ambition, acceptance that he is at his level. I doubt that though because he's picked ahead of the then Man City now Liverpool, and forever loved James Milner. If he did think why risk it then I'm not sure that is the best for us in all honesty. he's here because he's scared of being on the bench there is how it could be summed up if the angle is to be believed.
It could also be off the pitch issues such as a happy settled family.
he needs to sign a new contract changing or removing that release clause though.
Problem is when or how he gets rid of it. If indeed he does. Why put it in if you don't want it activated.
Problem is when or how he gets rid of it. If indeed he does. Why put it in if you don't want it activated. If he dies get rid of it too quickly then he maybe makes himself ridiculous and lets the story linger on. If he doesn't then he's open to scrutiny as to why he hasn't got rid of it and his long-term commitment to the cause.To give himself options?
Interesting debate about Delph's decision on the Monday Night Club last night. Kilbane saying he should have gone because these chances don't come along very often (or ever in his case ;D) and because he felt Delph was good enough to break into the City side regular (he may have a point there), but on the other side Alex Scott and Rorey Smith saying that with the Euros coming up Delph is giving himself a better chance at going if he stays and plays every week for us, and that if he plays well this season then another big offer may well come anyway. I agree more with the second opinion, but then I would, wouldn't I ;) Thoughts?I listened to this as well. I Had a lot of trouble with the prevailing sentiment that if a bigger club comes in for you, you owe it to yourself to move, regardless of any other considerations. Maybe Manchester City aren't as big a draw as they think they are? They certainly aren't to me because I have been following football for more than ten years. They do seem to be for Raheem Sterling, but then he's only young, and impressionable.
Problem is when or how he gets rid of it. If indeed he does. Why put it in if you don't want it activated. If he dies get rid of it too quickly then he maybe makes himself ridiculous and lets the story linger on. If he doesn't then he's open to scrutiny as to why he hasn't got rid of it and his long-term commitment to the cause.To give himself options?
If he wants to leave at any point then he will use it to leave. If he doesn't want to leave, then it doesn't matter if it's there or not as we found out at the weekend.
And any scrutiny isn't going to run any further than a few hundred Villa fans across a couple of forums panicking about it every transfer window until he eventually does leave us.
I'd say more like a third.Problem is when or how he gets rid of it. If indeed he does. Why put it in if you don't want it activated. If he dies get rid of it too quickly then he maybe makes himself ridiculous and lets the story linger on. If he doesn't then he's open to scrutiny as to why he hasn't got rid of it and his long-term commitment to the cause.To give himself options?
If he wants to leave at any point then he will use it to leave. If he doesn't want to leave, then it doesn't matter if it's there or not as we found out at the weekend.
And any scrutiny isn't going to run any further than a few hundred Villa fans across a couple of forums panicking about it every transfer window until he eventually does leave us.
But the reported figure is ridiculously low and probably around half the market value for an England international.
You're right that the scrutiny may be there from just a few hundred people but why have it there if it leaves needless question marks hanging over him.
Problem is when or how he gets rid of it. If indeed he does. Why put it in if you don't want it activated. If he dies get rid of it too quickly then he maybe makes himself ridiculous and lets the story linger on. If he doesn't then he's open to scrutiny as to why he hasn't got rid of it and his long-term commitment to the cause.To give himself options?
If he wants to leave at any point then he will use it to leave. If he doesn't want to leave, then it doesn't matter if it's there or not as we found out at the weekend.
And any scrutiny isn't going to run any further than a few hundred Villa fans across a couple of forums panicking about it every transfer window until he eventually does leave us.
But the reported figure is ridiculously low and probably around half the market value for an England international.
You're right that the scrutiny may be there from just a few hundred people but why have it there if it leaves needless question marks hanging over him.
Well lets just say £12m-£16m then.I meant that it's about a third of his market value rather than half - the current England midfield seems to be Henderson, Delph and Wilshere. If somebody tried to buy either of the other two then there wouldn't be any change from £25m, so I'd expect Delph to not be a million miles from that.
I think he realises that £8m is very low so if he wants to keep his options open fair enough but 8m is no longer fair to us, the club he chose to stay with.
Interesting debate about Delph's decision on the Monday Night Club last night. Kilbane saying he should have gone because these chances don't come along very often (or ever in his case ;D) and because he felt Delph was good enough to break into the City side regular (he may have a point there), but on the other side Alex Scott and Rorey Smith saying that with the Euros coming up Delph is giving himself a better chance at going if he stays and plays every week for us, and that if he plays well this season then another big offer may well come anyway. I agree more with the second opinion, but then I would, wouldn't I ;) Thoughts?I listened to this as well. I Had a lot of trouble with the prevailing sentiment that if a bigger club comes in for you, you owe it to yourself to move, regardless of any other considerations. Maybe Manchester City aren't as big a draw as they think they are? They certainly aren't to me because I have been following football for more than ten years. They do seem to be for Raheem Sterling, but then he's only young, and impressionable.
Ignoring for a moment his statement of loyalty when he signed the new contract, I would have understood if he had left. At the same time though, I don't think he is a reprehensible human being to have stayed. In fact I think it shows the kind of determination that would have been admired in years gone by.
The fact the clause exists means we will have to endure this circus every transfer window as people will potentially try and sign him simply to cover injuries and/or quota demands. Whilst I can understand Delph wanting the insurance option I'd be inclined to argue that the low value is actually detrimental to Delph because he will have to deal with the stress/uncertainty each window and also, at such a low fee, clubs may buy him when they don't really rate him.
As a consequence we might be able to increase the clause to something more reasonable. At £15m he'd still hold all the cards but it would be high enough to deter the time wasters.
The fact the clause exists means we will have to endure this circus every transfer window as people will potentially try and sign him simply to cover injuries and/or quota demands. Whilst I can understand Delph wanting the insurance option I'd be inclined to argue that the low value is actually detrimental to Delph because he will have to deal with the stress/uncertainty each window and also, at such a low fee, clubs may buy him when they don't really rate him.
As a consequence we might be able to increase the clause to something more reasonable. At £15m he'd still hold all the cards but it would be high enough to deter the time wasters.
Hopefully Hendrik Almstadt will address this (Monday first thing)
The fact the clause exists means we will have to endure this circus every transfer window as people will potentially try and sign him simply to cover injuries and/or quota demands. Whilst I can understand Delph wanting the insurance option I'd be inclined to argue that the low value is actually detrimental to Delph because he will have to deal with the stress/uncertainty each window and also, at such a low fee, clubs may buy him when they don't really rate him.
As a consequence we might be able to increase the clause to something more reasonable. At £15m he'd still hold all the cards but it would be high enough to deter the time wasters.
Hopefully Hendrik Almstadt will address this (Monday first thing)
I heard he's coming in 15 mins early to do just that
The fact the clause exists means we will have to endure this circus every transfer window as people will potentially try and sign him simply to cover injuries and/or quota demands. Whilst I can understand Delph wanting the insurance option I'd be inclined to argue that the low value is actually detrimental to Delph because he will have to deal with the stress/uncertainty each window and also, at such a low fee, clubs may buy him when they don't really rate him.
As a consequence we might be able to increase the clause to something more reasonable. At £15m he'd still hold all the cards but it would be high enough to deter the time wasters.
Well lets just say £12m-£16m then.I meant that it's about a third of his market value rather than half - the current England midfield seems to be Henderson, Delph and Wilshere. If somebody tried to buy either of the other two then there wouldn't be any change from £25m, so I'd expect Delph to not be a million miles from that.
I think he realises that £8m is very low so if he wants to keep his options open fair enough but 8m is no longer fair to us, the club he chose to stay with.
As for the second point, sometimes things aren't fair. Hopefully the club see it as a cautionary tale about not waiting for such a long time before offering new contracts to our better players. Like I say, if things go badly for him then he has an out and if they don't then it doesn't matter how much the release clause is because he stays with us.
It still might happen. We could go down next season. Sherwood could turn out to be a two-bit chancer who messes the club up even worse than the last lot. This way he has options.Well lets just say £12m-£16m then.I meant that it's about a third of his market value rather than half - the current England midfield seems to be Henderson, Delph and Wilshere. If somebody tried to buy either of the other two then there wouldn't be any change from £25m, so I'd expect Delph to not be a million miles from that.
I think he realises that £8m is very low so if he wants to keep his options open fair enough but 8m is no longer fair to us, the club he chose to stay with.
As for the second point, sometimes things aren't fair. Hopefully the club see it as a cautionary tale about not waiting for such a long time before offering new contracts to our better players. Like I say, if things go badly for him then he has an out and if they don't then it doesn't matter how much the release clause is because he stays with us.
But if it was only as a precautionary clause because of relegation then once we avoided it the clause would have become redundant. it wasn't so no matter what has happened he is still holding a ridiculously low release clause over our heads
It still might happen. We could go down next season. Sherwood could turn out to be a two-bit chancer who messes the club up even worse than the last lot. This way he has options.Well lets just say £12m-£16m then.I meant that it's about a third of his market value rather than half - the current England midfield seems to be Henderson, Delph and Wilshere. If somebody tried to buy either of the other two then there wouldn't be any change from £25m, so I'd expect Delph to not be a million miles from that.
I think he realises that £8m is very low so if he wants to keep his options open fair enough but 8m is no longer fair to us, the club he chose to stay with.
As for the second point, sometimes things aren't fair. Hopefully the club see it as a cautionary tale about not waiting for such a long time before offering new contracts to our better players. Like I say, if things go badly for him then he has an out and if they don't then it doesn't matter how much the release clause is because he stays with us.
But if it was only as a precautionary clause because of relegation then once we avoided it the clause would have become redundant. it wasn't so no matter what has happened he is still holding a ridiculously low release clause over our heads
I completely get that Delph's contract situation benefits him far more than it does the club. What I don't get is why it would be in his interests to even think about having it removed. What would be the point?
It still might happen. We could go down next season. Sherwood could turn out to be a two-bit chancer who messes the club up even worse than the last lot. This way he has options.Well lets just say £12m-£16m then.I meant that it's about a third of his market value rather than half - the current England midfield seems to be Henderson, Delph and Wilshere. If somebody tried to buy either of the other two then there wouldn't be any change from £25m, so I'd expect Delph to not be a million miles from that.
I think he realises that £8m is very low so if he wants to keep his options open fair enough but 8m is no longer fair to us, the club he chose to stay with.
As for the second point, sometimes things aren't fair. Hopefully the club see it as a cautionary tale about not waiting for such a long time before offering new contracts to our better players. Like I say, if things go badly for him then he has an out and if they don't then it doesn't matter how much the release clause is because he stays with us.
But if it was only as a precautionary clause because of relegation then once we avoided it the clause would have become redundant. it wasn't so no matter what has happened he is still holding a ridiculously low release clause over our heads
I completely get that Delph's contract situation benefits him far more than it does the club. What I don't get is why it would be in his interests to even think about having it removed. What would be the point?
The only way it would happen is with another new contract and a substantial pay rise.
Betting on Delphs future has been opened back up today. Mental
pictures of delph arriving at city for a medical on twitter....
Appears to be the same hospital Sterling was pictured leaving the other day aswell ..
This had best have been from last week!
Otherwise what a massive piss take
The fact the clause exists means we will have to endure this circus every transfer window as people will potentially try and sign him simply to cover injuries and/or quota demands. Whilst I can understand Delph wanting the insurance option I'd be inclined to argue that the low value is actually detrimental to Delph because he will have to deal with the stress/uncertainty each window and also, at such a low fee, clubs may buy him when they don't really rate him.
As a consequence we might be able to increase the clause to something more reasonable. At £15m he'd still hold all the cards but it would be high enough to deter the time wasters.
Hopefully Hendrik Almstadt will address this (Monday first thing)
I heard he's coming in 15 mins early to do just that
IF true, this would out-Hodge Hodge.
Messi has just also turned up riding a unicorn ill keep you updated
Paul Gascoigne has turned up with a fishing rod, beer and KFC saying he is a mate of Delphs, more to follow
I can't see it personally but at the same time it wouldn't surprise me.
The guy claiming its his photo on Twitter has subsequently tweeted:QuoteMessi has just also turned up riding a unicorn ill keep you updated
andQuotePaul Gascoigne has turned up with a fishing rod, beer and KFC saying he is a mate of Delphs, more to follow
https://twitter.com/maxwbrookes
Isn't it just a shopped picture of Sterling where they've made Sterling bald?When I look as closely as possible at that picture it looks as if Delph has grown a beard since he was pictured at Wetherby on Sat.
Manchester Evening News's City reporter reckons it's on and tied up with them not getting Pogba last week.
Isn't it just a shopped picture of Sterling where they've made Sterling bald?Sterling and Delph must shop at the same place and dress exactly the same.
Manchester Evening News's City reporter reckons it's on and tied up with them not getting Pogba last week.
All I've seen is the photo and not much in the way of anything else.
And surely if it was about money and opportunity he'd be gone already? He's claimed loyalty twice now so I'd be blown away if he suddenly decided to toss that position aside.
If this isn't true, this is the sort of rumour the club should quash quickly in my view.
Unless Delph has been told something last week that's proven to be complete lies by our club of course
In that case I wouldn't blame him obviously
Unless Delph has been told something last week that's proven to be complete lies by our club of course
In that case I wouldn't blame him obviously
I did wonder when someone would try and blame the club.
Then he's beyond Hodge.
It's happening
I'm perplexed and beyond pissed off. My litre bottle of vodka purchase this morning will not last long
We're a mess
It's happening
I'm perplexed and beyond pissed off. My litre bottle of vodka purchase this morning will not last long
We're a mess
Why are 'we' a mess? Seriously, how can this possibly be the fault of anyone other than one man?
It's happening
I'm perplexed and beyond pissed off. My litre bottle of vodka purchase this morning will not last long
We're a mess
Why are 'we' a mess? Seriously, how can this possibly be the fault of anyone other than one man?
... and his agent, presumably.
Then he's beyond Hodge.100% agree.
I'm not saying it's an individuals fault (although the £8m release clause if questionable), however, losing our two best players only 3 weeks before the season starts is pretty messy by my books.It's happening
I'm perplexed and beyond pissed off. My litre bottle of vodka purchase this morning will not last long
We're a mess
Why are 'we' a mess? Seriously, how can this possibly be the fault of anyone other than one man?
... and his agent, presumably.
What a complete c***.
It's happening
I'm perplexed and beyond pissed off. My litre bottle of vodka purchase this morning will not last long
We're a mess
Why are 'we' a mess? Seriously, how can this possibly be the fault of anyone other than one man?
... and his agent, presumably.
Oh f#ck his agent, Delph is a grown man who makes his own decisions.
Soton were stripped of their best players last year...doomed to relegation. Looked what happened...it's not the end of the world.
lets tone it down until we're sure hey?
This is Downing plus
I have not believed this for the last hour, but the BBC seem fairly categorical. I still struggle to be fully convinced, it can't be about Benteke for starters. Everyone knows Benteke has the release clause and it was always expected that he would leave, nothing has changed there. No if it happens, I don't think there is any conspiracy. I just think Delph agonised over the decision, made it, slept on it for a few nights and changed his mind. Unfortunately while doing so he will have made the reaction one heck of a lot worse than if he just decided to leave a week ago or let his contract run down. I don't think there would be anything sinister in what he has done beyond indecisiveness, but that is not the reaction he is going to get.
If it is true of course. And it does all seem bizarre.
Musing more on my theory that the hitch was a legal one. In my very non legal mind it may have hinged on the word "relegated" blah blah blah. Man City trigger the clause and Villa say we have not been relegated blah blah blah. Man City come back and say "but the clause goes on to say" blah blah blah to which Villa reply "ya boo sucks" and Man City say we are going to get some expert advice. They get the expert advice which tells them the "clause goes on to say" bit is on the money and our utterly loyal captain is legally free to fuck off. Just a theory.My response to this is: even if you are right, why would Delph once again make such gushing comments in the media about his intention to stay with us?
Soton were stripped of their best players last year...doomed to relegation. Looked what happened...it's not the end of the world.
They didn't get a total of £8m for three key players (vlaar cleverley delph) with which to rebuild
Good luck with your career Fabian, thanks for the hard work..... is what I would have said had he not spouted his bullshit on Saturday!
Forget the photo, the BBC, Manchester Evening News and Birmingham Mail all running with the story, doubt it would be on the basis of a blurry photo do you.
Forget the photo, the BBC, Manchester Evening News and Birmingham Mail all running with the story, doubt it would be on the basis of a blurry photo do you.
Chill out guys. Its a photo shopped picture of sterling.
Chill out guys. Its a photo shopped picture of sterling.Yeah, after what happened last week, probably better to wait til a deal is confirmed....then, we can all slaughter him together!
Chill out guys. Its a photo shopped picture of sterling.
This
Perhaps he'll fail the medical when his yellow belly, lily liver and lack of backbone come to light.
[/quotappPerhaps he'll fail the medical when his yellow belly, lily liver and lack of backbone come to light.
Applause
ŷChill out guys. Its a photo shopped picture of sterling.
This
This is what I thought, but why are no journalists questioning it? And now the beeb...
Chill out guys. Its a photo shopped picture of sterling.
This
This is what I thought, but why are no journalists questioning it? And now the beeb...
It's so bizarre it's difficult to believe. Any chance the club, having replaced him with Gueye, let him go? I do think they'd thought he'd already gone and were a bit taken aback when he stayed.
Chill out guys. Its a photo shopped picture of sterling.
This
This is what I thought, but why are no journalists questioning it? And now the beeb...
Good luck with your career Fabian, thanks for the hard work..... is what I would have said had he not spouted his bullshit on Saturday!
Chill out guys. Its a photo shopped picture of sterling.
This
This is what I thought, but why are no journalists questioning it? And now the beeb...
Why would they? It's very easy clickbait for them, and I can't believe people still believe what the "journalists" spouts nowdays given all the shit they do, just look at the Sir Tim Hunt situation, pretty much most "newspapers" printed or published the story based on what one woman said without checking anything or if they knew they didn't care.
Wearing exactly the same clothes as Sterling was when he had his medical.....come on man!!!
Chill out guys. Its a photo shopped picture of sterling.
This
This is what I thought, but why are no journalists questioning it? And now the beeb...
Why would they? It's very easy clickbait for them, and I can't believe people still believe what the "journalists" spouts nowdays given all the shit they do, just look at the Sir Tim Hunt situation, pretty much most "newspapers" printed or published the story based on what one woman said without checking anything or if they knew they didn't care.
True, but different types of stories have different rules relating to how they're spread and reported. The Tim Hunt thing was within the norms of modern 'offence'-based witch-hunting, especially by the pseudo-feminists - viz the poor bastard with the ill-judged shirt last year. With football transfers, however, the BBC are usually very careful, and have been burned by Delph only last week, so you'd imagine they'd be more careful this time.
Well you have 3 photos going around at the moment.Wearing exactly the same clothes as Sterling was when he had his medical.....come on man!!!
The photo could be balls, but I'd be surprised - very surprised - if the story was too.
If true, I think both gushers of lies coming out from him are basically because he is massively stupid.It does point to an amazing simpleton, a village idiot BUT we made him our Club Captain. I find that totally astonishing.
I'm all for a bit of booing etc but you just know some fuckers will take it too far
The bloke who tweeted the photo is threatening all sorts of legals to anyone who reproduces it uncredited.
The bloke who tweeted the photo is threatening all sorts of legals to anyone who reproduces it uncredited.That makes it sound like someone who wants his fifteen minutes.
Its not Man City's fault. All they've done is offer to pay the contracted price.
The only thing that leaves a bitter taste is all the nonsense Delph came out with first time around about loving the club etc, only to then amplify it with yet more lies the other day.
Players come, players go, good, bad or otherwise. Only one or two seem to be able to create such a nonsense about how they do it.
Delph sits chief amongst any Villa player in our entire history, surpassing Hodge. That's some going.
If true, then sorry, Fabian, but this trumps both Hodge and Downing in my book.
Jeans are different colour and Sterling's trainers are slightly different too.
If true, then sorry, Fabian, but this trumps both Hodge and Downing in my book.
I wish they'd make an announcement soon - I need to know whether I still love him or hate the twat.
my thoughts too - probably thought he was staying after Sherwood's comments
Nothing on Sky or the Gaurdian..?Yeah, the fact that we've heard nothing from those ubiquitous 'sky sports sources' does suggest they're slightly more sceptical about this photo/story than all the other news outlets, though it could be a case of once bitten, twice shy I guess. Jim White has just reported that Benteke's release clause has been triggered, surely they would have linked the possible departure of Delph as well?!
my thoughts too - probably thought he was staying after Sherwood's comments
I refuse to accept he could genuinely have considered that he had been given an assurance that Benteke was staying when it had been made clear that Benteke wanted to leave, that there was a release clause that would allow this, and that there were clubs after him. If he comes out with that line to justify changing his mind (if he has) then he's either a total liar or really really thick.
I think it's him. The story is too strong not to be true. And it's not like the last story was wrong. He just changed his mind at the last minute.
Rodney Marsh has tweeted that he wants an apology from all Villa fans.
Rodney Marsh can swivel.
man city will win fook all next year
It's not happening stop the collective knicker wetting ffs
How can it be a fair playing field when the bully boy tactics of billionaire playthings just trample over the hopes and aspirations of every team except 3 or 4.
The Premier league and Sky football is a joke.
It hasn't improved the England team like it was meant to do.
All it has done is ruin the game for the normal fan.
W@nkers
How can it be a fair playing field when the bully boy tactics of billionaire playthings just trample over the hopes and aspirations of every team except 3 or 4.
The Premier league and Sky football is a joke.
It hasn't improved the England team like it was meant to do.
All it has done is ruin the game for the normal fan.
W@nkers
If this is true he is a shameful and characterless weasel. To say what he said in January and then reinforce it again on Saturday to only then move he would be the biggest turncoat in Villa's history. It would be an utter disgrace.
Good luck with your career Fabian, thanks for the hard work..... is what I would have said had he not spouted his bullshit on Saturday!
If this is true he is a shameful and characterless weasel. To say what he said in January and then reinforce it again on Saturday to only then move he would be the biggest turncoat in Villa's history. It would be an utter disgrace.
Just can't see it not being true now ..
This is far worse than last week , at least then we have contract signing 6 months ago to complain about.Now we have a statement 6 days ago , interviews with Westwood , TS ,Ray commenting about him staying and sold shirts all week with his name on for this to happen...
Some kind of explanation is required from someone ...
If this is true he is a shameful and characterless weasel. To say what he said in January and then reinforce it again on Saturday to only then move he would be the biggest turncoat in Villa's history. It would be an utter disgrace.
Wtf is going on behind the scenes? We deserve some kind of explanation.
If this story is true, then it surely must point to a massive pay rise that he couldn't turn down...wouldn't be surprised if City offered around £150k/week and no one in their right mind would turn that down whether you're on the bench or not.
It's about time the club made a statement - we're looking pretty bloody stupid at the moment .
It's about time the club made a statement - we're looking pretty bloody stupid at the moment .
How can it be a fair playing field when the bully boy tactics of billionaire playthings just trample over the hopes and aspirations of every team except 3 or 4.
The Premier league and Sky football is a joke.
It hasn't improved the England team like it was meant to do.
All it has done is ruin the game for the normal fan.
W@nkers
sometimes I wish they would just fuck off to their own bloody league.
How can it be a fair playing field when the bully boy tactics of billionaire playthings just trample over the hopes and aspirations of every team except 3 or 4.
The Premier league and Sky football is a joke.
It hasn't improved the England team like it was meant to do.
All it has done is ruin the game for the normal fan.
W@nkers
sometimes I wish they would just fuck off to their own bloody league.
I know what you mean, but I don't think it would have any effect. In fact players would be more likely to want to go and play in a 'super' league.
It's about time the club made a statement - we're looking pretty bloody stupid at the moment .I'm with you feds, need to make a statement, totally furious, like a comic strip.
Perhaps the drafting of Delph's contract is flawed. Perhaps the u turn was because his lawyers had had pointed out to them by Villa's lawyers that the buy out clause did not operate the way Delph's lawyers had said it would. Faced with not being able to go to Man City for purely legal reasons Delph had to save face by saying he was not going after all and try to look the good guy. In the intervening period Delph's lawyers have taken Counsel's opinion on the clause and have been advised that it is water tight. Cue Delph being free to do what he intended to do in the first place. Just a theory.
I'd imagine its more to do with a ridiculous wage offer.
Spoke to Lisa Smith just and she said he's left because he was assured Benteke was staying. So he's reneged.....
Spoke to Lisa Smith just and she said he's left because he was assured Benteke was staying. So he's reneged.....
Spoke to Lisa Smith just and she said he's left because he was assured Benteke was staying. So he's reneged.....
And he seriously believed the club could guarantee him that Benteke was staying? He must think we are all total f*****g mugs.
Spoke to Lisa Smith just and she said he's left because he was assured Benteke was staying. So he's reneged.....
Maybe so, just going by what she said. Its a crap excuse anyway lets face it.
And he seriously believed the club could guarantee him that Benteke was staying? He must think we are all total f*****g mugs.
exactly
Sky Sports News have just confirmed it. Shown him leaving the medical and walking into a car.If he's walked into a car his eyesight must be shit so good job he's leaving.
im still in shock If true .
That said, the insistence of the £8 million release clause sticks in the craw a bit. Unless he told City he wanted an £10 million signing on fee but has it paid to us. How would people feel if he did something like that?
I say again, it stems from him just changing his mind after weeks of agonising.
I suppose I will be alone in hating him less for his statements of loyalty. I think he meant them, he must have done really - otherwise you risk looking as stupid as he does today. I think he was genuinely torn and wanted to do the right thing by us, but ultimately has decided it's a short career and he only gets one crack at it. All the statements tell me that here is a bloke who didn't jump the first time money was waved in front of him, he had doubts, he felt the pull of 'loyalty'. It can't be easy having your next career decision attached to so much emotion from so many thousands of people. I think this will have been a very difficult decision for him and I would guess that as and when this is confirmed, we will end up with an open letter or public statement from him to us, which everyone will wipe their arse on.
That said, the insistence of the £8 million release clause sticks in the craw a bit. Unless he told City he wanted an £10 million signing on fee but has it paid to us. How would people feel if he did something like that?
Why on earth would Delph give £10m to Villa?
im still in shock If true .
It is!
https://twitter.com/charlcox6/status/622063910217105408
I say again, it stems from him just changing his mind after weeks of agonising.
I suppose I will be alone in hating him less for his statements of loyalty. I think he meant them, he must have done really - otherwise you risk looking as stupid as he does today. I think he was genuinely torn and wanted to do the right thing by us, but ultimately has decided it's a short career and he only gets one crack at it. All the statements tell me that here is a bloke who didn't jump the first time money was waved in front of him, he had doubts, he felt the pull of 'loyalty'. It can't be easy having your next career decision attached to so much emotion from so many thousands of people. I think this will have been a very difficult decision for him and I would guess that as and when this is confirmed, we will end up with an open letter or public statement from him to us, which everyone will wipe their arse on.
Oh, spare us the bleeding hearts nonsense! He pledged himself to the club in a statement only last week, when he didn't have to say anything at all. "He felt the pull of 'loyalty'", my arse!
Delph u turn / Benteke likely to be off / Takeover off
To be honest I'm not at all surprised by all three and am looking forward to seeing how Sherwood gets into his first proper season, who he buys with the money, watching the rebirth of Richards, the emergence of Clarke, Gil, Sinclair and Grealish, how Idrissa Gueye plays....oh and the yellow away kit...
This is Villa (said in a sparta voice)..
Spoke to Lisa Smith just and she said he's left because he was assured Benteke was staying. So he's reneged.....
That's unlikely.
I'm sure Delph would have spoken directly to Benteke to find that out, rather than to the club.
I say again, it stems from him just changing his mind after weeks of agonising.
I suppose I will be alone in hating him less for his statements of loyalty. I think he meant them, he must have done really - otherwise you risk looking as stupid as he does today. I think he was genuinely torn and wanted to do the right thing by us, but ultimately has decided it's a short career and he only gets one crack at it. All the statements tell me that here is a bloke who didn't jump the first time money was waved in front of him, he had doubts, he felt the pull of 'loyalty'. It can't be easy having your next career decision attached to so much emotion from so many thousands of people. I think this will have been a very difficult decision for him and I would guess that as and when this is confirmed, we will end up with an open letter or public statement from him to us, which everyone will wipe their arse on.
Oh, spare us the bleeding hearts nonsense! He pledged himself to the club in a statement only last week, when he didn't have to say anything at all. "He felt the pull of 'loyalty'", my arse!
Rubbish, you really think he has just been chuckling along, making statements saying he is staying, then buggering off the next week without some level of agonising? I doubt he has found the decision easy. He is leaving, like anyone else. I think there are bigger twats in the football. He has just made himself look a bit stupid by indecisiveness I reckon.
I have no issue with ambition or the notion that getting paid more is bad. If he had said this is a great career move then it's perfectly understandable. It's the bold faced fucking lies that does it. He is Hodge reincarnated. Both became England internationals with us. Both then went and stabbed us in the back and front.
What a dicksplash.
The way he is "leaving" is leaving a bitter taste, but purely in footballing terms, he's not THAT big a loss. Certainly, less of a player than Barry or Milner.
I say again, it stems from him just changing his mind after weeks of agonising.
I suppose I will be alone in hating him less for his statements of loyalty. I think he meant them, he must have done really - otherwise you risk looking as stupid as he does today. I think he was genuinely torn and wanted to do the right thing by us, but ultimately has decided it's a short career and he only gets one crack at it. All the statements tell me that here is a bloke who didn't jump the first time money was waved in front of him, he had doubts, he felt the pull of 'loyalty'. It can't be easy having your next career decision attached to so much emotion from so many thousands of people. I think this will have been a very difficult decision for him and I would guess that as and when this is confirmed, we will end up with an open letter or public statement from him to us, which everyone will wipe their arse on.
Oh, spare us the bleeding hearts nonsense! He pledged himself to the club in a statement only last week, when he didn't have to say anything at all. "He felt the pull of 'loyalty'", my arse!
Rubbish, you really think he has just been chuckling along, making statements saying he is staying, then buggering off the next week without some level of agonising? I doubt he has found the decision easy. He is leaving, like anyone else. I think there are bigger twats in the football. He has just made himself look a bit stupid by indecisiveness I reckon.
Once he made the statement then, as far as i'm concerned, there is absolutely nothing to excuse him leaving this summer. Even if only one person has gone and had 'Delph' printed on the back of their shirt as a result, or renewed a season-ticket, he's duped them and he's a liar. IF this is true, the club need to come out and condemn him too.
I didn't think football could get this low
Back when Moyes was managing EFC, they lost some really crucial players, Rooney and Arteta to name two, but with each sale, the team actually improved. It is up to the managment at Aston Villa to make sure that it happens to us.
Only the signing of Adebayor can put a smile back on our faces after this
Only the signing of Adebayor can put a smile back on our faces after this
That might just be the saddest Villa post I ever saw.....really? Dude is a mercenary...
I sincerely hope that TS is given the 40m quid to spend. And that he spends it wisely.
He's not going to improve Citeh, never been a big fan of his so look forward to him struggling to get in their side and losing his England place before returning to Leeds on loan for the final year of his contract.
What an absolute tit!That's an insult to tits.Cancerous polyp of the arse more like.
I think he was jokingOnly the signing of Adebayor can put a smile back on our faces after this
That might just be the saddest Villa post I ever saw.....really? Dude is a mercenary...
I sincerely hope that TS is given the 40m quid to spend. And that he spends it wisely.
I didn't think football could get this low
Hillsborough, Heysel, Bradford fire ring any bells?
I think he was jokingOnly the signing of Adebayor can put a smile back on our faces after this
That might just be the saddest Villa post I ever saw.....really? Dude is a mercenary...
I sincerely hope that TS is given the 40m quid to spend. And that he spends it wisely.
I say again, it stems from him just changing his mind after weeks of agonising.
I suppose I will be alone in hating him less for his statements of loyalty. I think he meant them, he must have done really - otherwise you risk looking as stupid as he does today. I think he was genuinely torn and wanted to do the right thing by us, but ultimately has decided it's a short career and he only gets one crack at it. All the statements tell me that here is a bloke who didn't jump the first time money was waved in front of him, he had doubts, he felt the pull of 'loyalty'. It can't be easy having your next career decision attached to so much emotion from so many thousands of people. I think this will have been a very difficult decision for him and I would guess that as and when this is confirmed, we will end up with an open letter or public statement from him to us, which everyone will wipe their arse on.
Oh, spare us the bleeding hearts nonsense! He pledged himself to the club in a statement only last week, when he didn't have to say anything at all. "He felt the pull of 'loyalty'", my arse!
Rubbish, you really think he has just been chuckling along, making statements saying he is staying, then buggering off the next week without some level of agonising? I doubt he has found the decision easy. He is leaving, like anyone else. I think there are bigger twats in the football. He has just made himself look a bit stupid by indecisiveness I reckon.
Once he made the statement then, as far as i'm concerned, there is absolutely nothing to excuse him leaving this summer. Even if only one person has gone and had 'Delph' printed on the back of their shirt as a result, or renewed a season-ticket, he's duped them and he's a liar. IF this is true, the club need to come out and condemn him too.
I am sure the club aren't best pleased. They should send him the bill for the shirt reprints.
I say again, it stems from him just changing his mind after weeks of agonising.
I suppose I will be alone in hating him less for his statements of loyalty. I think he meant them, he must have done really - otherwise you risk looking as stupid as he does today. I think he was genuinely torn and wanted to do the right thing by us, but ultimately has decided it's a short career and he only gets one crack at it. All the statements tell me that here is a bloke who didn't jump the first time money was waved in front of him, he had doubts, he felt the pull of 'loyalty'. It can't be easy having your next career decision attached to so much emotion from so many thousands of people. I think this will have been a very difficult decision for him and I would guess that as and when this is confirmed, we will end up with an open letter or public statement from him to us, which everyone will wipe their arse on.
Oh, spare us the bleeding hearts nonsense! He pledged himself to the club in a statement only last week, when he didn't have to say anything at all. "He felt the pull of 'loyalty'", my arse!
Rubbish, you really think he has just been chuckling along, making statements saying he is staying, then buggering off the next week without some level of agonising? I doubt he has found the decision easy. He is leaving, like anyone else. I think there are bigger twats in the football. He has just made himself look a bit stupid by indecisiveness I reckon.
Once he made the statement then, as far as i'm concerned, there is absolutely nothing to excuse him leaving this summer. Even if only one person has gone and had 'Delph' printed on the back of their shirt as a result, or renewed a season-ticket, he's duped them and he's a liar. IF this is true, the club need to come out and condemn him too.
I am sure the club aren't best pleased. They should send him the bill for the shirt reprints.
That's the first 30 sec of his Man City wages accounted for then.
The journos are obviously going to ask the questions after the game tonight....wonder how Tim will respond.Hope he doesn't hold back and rips him apart. If JG was here we would be just hearing the start up of a chainsaw
The journos are obviously going to ask the questions after the game tonight....wonder how Tim will respond.Hope he doesn't hold back and rips him apart. If JG was here we would be just hearing the start up of a chainsaw
This is really immature, and I'm sorry about it, but I'm so utterly fed up with football this afternoon that I'd do anything for a little bit of humour. So I apologise but...delphandawilly....HA HA HA HA HA
I think we need to start a viral campaign now.
Maybe something like this... We take a photo of Delph and draw big willies on it like this:
(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag334/chris_jephcott/judas_zpsfrrbv79u.jpg) (http://s1372.photobucket.com/user/chris_jephcott/media/judas_zpsfrrbv79u.jpg.html)
and label it something like:
#twococks
#delphandawilly
If it's too much, I'll take it off and apologise.
How long do you think it will be before Sky have him as a pundit for a Villa game as the "Villa" voice? If that sounds fanciful it has happened to Dwight Yorke and he did all the Man U badge kissing at VP and he played for away until he got his own way.
The journos are obviously going to ask the questions after the game tonight....wonder how Tim will respond.
The journos are obviously going to ask the questions after the game tonight....wonder how Tim will respond.The only "journo" there is Woodwank
I didn't think football could get this low
Hillsborough, Heysel, Bradford fire ring any bells?
But you get his point, Chris? He's disappointed, as we all are. No need for your remark in my opinion.
"Delph personally informed Lerner of his decision on Thurs. Man City met release clause in full up front so free to have medical"Where did that quote come from?
I don't see anything other than relegation next season.Duck off we are not getting relegated because of some spineless c*** reneged on a promise!
And Gregg Evans......The journos are obviously going to ask the questions after the game tonight....wonder how Tim will respond.The only "journo" there is Woodwank
And Gregg Evans......The journos are obviously going to ask the questions after the game tonight....wonder how Tim will respond.The only "journo" there is Woodwank
I don't see anything other than relegation next season.Duck off we are not getting relegated because of some spineless c*** reneged on a promise!
Clutching at straws.... is there any chance that the film of him leaving the hospital after a medical were from last week when he'd supposedly had the medical before changing his mind? If he had the medical last week - why would he need another one today?
Clutching at straws.... is there any chance that the film of him leaving the hospital after a medical were from last week when he'd supposedly had the medical before changing his mind? If he had the medical last week - why would he need another one today?Nope the SSN footage was from today. I didn't think he turned for his medical last week anyway.
Only the signing of Adebayor can put a smile back on our faces after this
Everything we feared is/has occurring/occurred however. Sherwood has a monumental task adequately replacing Delph a man who described as being responsible for keeping us up, as well as Benteke a player who (in his three years here) has scored 30 more goals than his nearest rival (Gabby) over the same period. I can tell you as of now, I am officially concerned about our medium term future.
We can dress it up how we like about big game this and big game that. He was our big game player. Due to his monumentally cnutish decision to leave the club in the lurch a week after saying he was staying, 6 months after spouting he was some kind of man, it has left us in shit street of that there is no doubt.
Annoyed at Delph's u turn but at least I've got the Ashes to cheer me up...................Oh dear!!
In that case he looks unbelievably stupid having publicly re-affirmed his loyalty to the club. When he was supposedly going last week I commented that he had out-weaseled Downing. If this happens now he has out-cnuted Hodge.
Bollocks to him and the club for inserting such a shitty clause in a contract you couldn't wait to announce back in January. What a crappy way of treating the fans of this club.
Lerner, Fox and co really need to pull their finger out and give us something to shout about considering the shit they've put us through over the last 5 years. How about showing some ambition in the transfer market for a change.
Another crap day at Aston Villa.
I've seen some people talking about the team losing its spine (Vlar / Delph / Benteke).
I'd argue that the team never had a spine in the first place.
Benteke (when motivated) will be a big loss, but we are getting above the market value for him. The other two are no loss (Vlar) & flatters to deceive (Delph). Delph is not now & never will be a top 4 / Champions League footballer. If Man City want to close the gap on Chelsea, they'll need better than Delph.
I've seen some people talking about the team losing its spine (Vlar / Delph / Benteke).
I'd argue that the team never had a spine in the first place.
Benteke (when motivated) will be a big loss, but we are getting above the market value for him. The other two are no loss (Vlar) & flatters to deceive (Delph). Delph is not now & never will be a top 4 / Champions League footballer. If Man City want to close the gap on Chelsea, they'll need better than Delph.
Bollocks to him and the club for inserting such a shitty clause in a contract you couldn't wait to announce back in January. What a crappy way of treating the fans of this club.
Lerner, Fox and co really need to pull their finger out and give us something to shout about considering the shit they've put us through over the last 5 years. How about showing some ambition in the transfer market for a change.
Another crap day at Aston Villa.
Like it's been said, if that's the clause the agent and player wanted inserted then it's better than nothing. We could have insisted on £15-£20m but they might not have wanted it. He was 5 months away from going on a free so at least we can go out and replace him.
I think I am gonna wait and see before going ballistic this time.
Bollocks to him and the club for inserting such a shitty clause in a contract you couldn't wait to announce back in January. What a crappy way of treating the fans of this club.
Lerner, Fox and co really need to pull their finger out and give us something to shout about considering the shit they've put us through over the last 5 years. How about showing some ambition in the transfer market for a change.
Another crap day at Aston Villa.
The whole thing does make me think "why bother"?
There's several teams in this league that it's impossible to compete with, whatever you do. Any decent player you unearth will be constantly linked with said teams until they inevitably go, you've got no chance of stability and the only thing you can "look forward" to is trying to stay in the league so that the process can repeat itself again and again. This is as good as it gets.
I would like TS when questioned about this to reply with a simple two word statement..."Fackin wanker"
The whole thing does make me think "why bother"?
There's several teams in this league that it's impossible to compete with, whatever you do. Any decent player you unearth will be constantly linked with said teams until they inevitably go, you've got no chance of stability and the only thing you can "look forward" to is trying to stay in the league so that the process can repeat itself again and again. This is as good as it gets.
Can't you see
It all makes perfect sense
Expressed in dollars and cents
Pounds shillings and pence
Can't you see
It all makes perfect sense
If it's true, it's very disappointing. I wonder if something has changed behind the scenes, or it could be for he's been offered an obscene amount of money (well more obscene than he currently earns!), and lets be honest, I bet most of would bail a job for double or triple wages regardless of what we'd said. He'd look a total cock though after that recent statement, although no more of one than some of the players/managers who have shit on their clubs to join us have.
Pompous prick alert. Thing is we now live in a society where money is the be all and end all of everything. As my son put it, there is no shame, there is no pride any more. Success is measured only in pounds, shilling and pence.
Pompous prick alert. Thing is we now live in a society where money is the be all and end all of everything. As my son put it, there is no shame, there is no pride any more. Success is measured only in pounds, shilling and pence.
Brian we now have decimal currency! But I know what you mean, there are no personal standards. It is all money,money,money in the rich mans world.
As if things couldn't get worse along come fucking Pink Floyd!
As if things couldn't get worse along come fucking Pink Floyd!
That's Waters solo Chris. Far better than Floyd
Just trying to play devil's advocate for a moment - because I'm as disappointed in Delph as anyone - but no matter how much you already earn, how easy would it be to turn down an extra £5m per year for any of us?
The money/greed thing incenses me a lot less than the fact that he came out and made the statements he did.
Yeah, cos as I recall we won the league the season before he bought the club.
Delph leaving is very sad. Benteke leaving is also very sad but for me these episodes are no more than the inevitable aftershocks of a truly awful season and an even more awful cup final.
When the final whistle put us out of our misery at Wembley I had the overwhelming feeling of a curtain coming down on everything that has happened since the departure of Martin O'Neill. The slate has to be wiped clean. The mighty oak that was Aston Villa keeled over and died. A new young tree has to be planted and tended. Without Benteke and Delph we are not going to grow much next season but what growth there is will be strong and healthy. All we can do is keep the faith and hope that those who run and manage the club have learned from the blows we the fans have had to suffer over the last five years.
I wouldn't take triple my wages to go work at my sector's equivalent of MCFC/MUFC with a bunch of c***s.
Today I have learned that I am a bad person. I'm pretty sure only a bad person could wish the things on this man, and I use the term loosely, that I am currently wishing.
Today I have learned that I am a bad person. I'm pretty sure only a bad person could wish the things on this man, and I use the term loosely, that I am currently wishing.
He is dead to me - we should just turn our backs in him when he comes to VP
I will let you into a secret WW, I did not really get a vision of a curtain coming down at the final whistle, it was a vision of the end of a Loony Toons cartoon when everything disappears down a hole in the middle of the screen with the message "That's All Folks!" The falling of a curtain is, as you say, a little more poetic but not strictly true.
Do you realise how crazy you all sound with the super imposing head talk?
I am genuinely looking forward to his return to VP. The anger from everyone will be quite a rush.
Apparently there is a huge row going on in the camp after todays news?!?!?
Today I have learned that I am a bad person. I'm pretty sure only a bad person could wish the things on this man, and I use the term loosely, that I am currently wishing.
He is dead to me - we should just turn our backs in him when he comes to VP
Apparently there is a huge row going on in the camp after todays news?!?!?
Delph leaving is very sad. Benteke leaving is also very sad but for me these episodes are no more than the inevitable aftershocks of a truly awful season and an even more awful cup final.
When the final whistle put us out of our misery at Wembley I had the overwhelming feeling of a curtain coming down on everything that has happened since the departure of Martin O'Neill. The slate has to be wiped clean. The mighty oak that was Aston Villa keeled over and died. A new young tree has to be planted and tended. Without Benteke and Delph we are not going to grow much next season but what growth there is will be strong and healthy. All we can do is keep the faith and hope that those who run and manage the club have learned from the blows we the fans have had to suffer over the last five years.
Poetically put Brian
Aside from a few, most of them probably wouldn't bat an eyelid at his behaviour. Players don't give two shits about the clubs they play for any more. I would hope some of the Villa raised on our books will give him the cold shoulder though. But then you look at Gabby and half the time it looks like even he couldn't give a piss these days.Apparently there is a huge row going on in the camp after todays news?!?!?
According to who? Also it's hard to see how people, including the players whoare bothered about it, would have an issue with anyone other than Delph.
As if things couldn't get worse along come fucking Pink Floyd!
That's Waters solo Chris. Far better than Floyd
Showing my knowledge of all things Pink Floyd once again!
Today I have learned that I am a bad person. I'm pretty sure only a bad person could wish the things on this man, and I use the term loosely, that I am currently wishing.
He is dead to me - we should just turn our backs in him when he comes to VP
My wish was for his rectum to prolapse at an inopportune moment. What's your Delph wish?
#myDelphwish
This from the official Villa site, short isn't it for the captain?
Aston Villa can confirm that Fabian Delph has exercised the release clause in his contract and will join Manchester City.
We'd like to wish him success in his future career.
This from the official Villa site, short isn't it for the captain?One sentence too long for me.
Aston Villa can confirm that Fabian Delph has exercised the release clause in his contract and will join Manchester City.
We'd like to wish him success in his future career.
This from the official Villa site, short isn't it for the captain?One sentence too long for me.
Aston Villa can confirm that Fabian Delph has exercised the release clause in his contract and will join Manchester City.
We'd like to wish him success in his future career.
This from the official Villa site, short isn't it for the captain?One sentence too long for me.
Aston Villa can confirm that Fabian Delph has exercised the release clause in his contract and will join Manchester City.
We'd like to wish him success in his future career.
This from the official Villa site, short isn't it for the captain?One sentence too long for me.
Aston Villa can confirm that Fabian Delph has exercised the release clause in his contract and will join Manchester City.
We'd like to wish him success in his future career.
Fabian Delph is like the Mansfield girl who bared her tits on the holy mountain. There will be a day of reckoning
And Gregg Evans......The journos are obviously going to ask the questions after the game tonight....wonder how Tim will respond.The only "journo" there is Woodwank
Gregg Evans, aPulitzerPileashit Prize in waiting
Just trying to play devil's advocate for a moment - because I'm as disappointed in Delph as anyone - but no matter how much you already earn, how easy would it be to turn down an extra £5m per year for any of us?
The money/greed thing incenses me a lot less than the fact that he came out and made the statements he did.
How about Villa showing a bit of ambition for a change?
This from the official Villa site, short isn't it for the captain?One sentence too long for me.
Aston Villa can confirm that Fabian Delph has exercised the release clause in his contract and will join Manchester City.
We'd like to wish him success in his future career.
Obviously! I'm surprised they included that considering that he has betrayed the club.
Fabian Delph: "Leaving Aston Villa Football Club is the hardest decision I've ever had to make."
Delph: "Decision to stay initially was purely based on the emotion and feelings that I hold for the club rather than looking at the football opportunity that had been placed in front of me."
Fabian Delph: "Leaving Aston Villa Football Club is the hardest decision I've ever had to make."
Delph: "Decision to stay initially was purely based on the emotion and feelings that I hold for the club rather than looking at the ridiculous amount of money that had been placed in front of me."
Fabian Delph: "Leaving Aston Villa Football Club is the hardest decision I've ever had to make."
Delph: "Decision to stay initially was purely based on the emotion and feelings that I hold for the club rather than looking at the football opportunity that had been placed in front of me."
Fuck off you twat.
Fabian Delph: "Leaving Aston Villa Football Club is the hardest decision I've ever had to make."
Delph: "Decision to stay initially was purely based on the emotion and feelings that I hold for the club rather than looking at the football opportunity that had been placed in front of me."
Fuck off you twat.
Pretty much what I expected from him and I for one believe him. I think he found the decision very hard. I don't think his statements paint him in worst light that players who bite off the band of the bigwigs when they come calling. Indecisiveness is his crime and it will earn him one heck of a lot of trouble now. In sum, what an idiot.
Let's be honest, he's not really all that good, is he? He shone in a shower of shit.Now that's what I call poetry!
Why do the club have to "wish him well in his future career?"Because the club have class.
Why can't they put a hex on the fucker or something?
Or say "We hope Fabian shits out a polar bear and then gets eaten by it."
I'd like to see a Photoshop of the Nevermind cover with Delph's face on the babyOr him standing next to Savage.
I fervently hope his arsehole festers, closes up and breaks out on his elbow so that when he reaches for the salt he shits in his dinner the fucking slimy cocksocket.
There was something i wanted to say about Delph for a long time, But i knew on here Delph had many fans who would back him and see him through Claret and Blue eyes, Now i can finally say it.
I never rated him, He doesn't score enough goals and very rarely make assists and i just didn't understand why Villa fans thought he was that great, I mean if he was a Townsend,Taylor or even Boateng i would understand but Delph is no where near as good as them.
To me Villa was his best shot of making a name for himself, maybe a midtable team but a top 6 side he is not, They are out of his league, If i was a Man city fan i be well pissed of because other teams fighting for the prem next season have top players already let alone adding some more now.
That's his England spot gone now, Man City will play him start of the season and see he will not bring nothing special to the team apart from a good engine, To win the Prem you have to be more special than Delph, Look at Chelsea with Matic and Fabregas, I'm sorry Delph you be on the bench before you know it. He will be the weakest link at Man City and you fucked your career up.
Now Sherwood go out and buy a better replacement.
c***
What a c***
Never ever felt this down after a villa player leaving
Why do the club have to "wish him well in his future career?"
Why can't they put a hex on the fucker or something?
Or say "We hope Fabian shits out a polar bear and then gets eaten by it."
I just hope we reinvest wisely.
Gueye and Amavi will be good replacements and additions and will bring something new to the team.
The downside is that we are effectively wiping the slate clean with Vlaar, Delph and Benteke on their respective ways (I hope Delph goes for a shit, and it turns out to be a hedgehog that rips apart his arsehole and then the wounds go septic)... The plus side is... I can now drink another beer and hope that it all works out ok?
Is it just me that thinks he looks like Stephen Ireland these days.
Give it two years and they will be in the same team.
Is it just me that thinks he looks like Stephen Ireland these days.
He's changed jobs, we all do it from time to time in our lives, maybe some of us even turn career moves down and regret it later.
Why football fans expect long term loyalty from young men from out of town I don't know, they have no reason to devote their life to our club.
And why we ever believe what players and managers say about how much they love the club I don't know either.
Oh well, the Villa are bigger than all of them and will live longer.
Just showing his stats on SSN. 28 games 0 goals 3 assists. Fuck off and rot. You wont be missed. BTW he is apparently flying out to be with his squad in Australia....apparently easier to get back to see the birth of his child than it is from the algarve
I literally can't believe that we didn't hold out for at least £15 million…..
c***
What a c***
Never ever felt this down after a villa player leaving
How old are you Andy? Genuine question.
A cocksucker of the highest order. Scum.This.
c***
What a c***
Never ever felt this down after a villa player leaving
How old are you Andy? Genuine question.
19 ..
I signed a new contract last season with the view of staying at the club for the duration of the deal and never with the intention of leaving a year later.
This from the official Villa site, short isn't it for the captain?
Aston Villa can confirm that Fabian Delph has exercised the release clause in his contract and will join Manchester City.
We'd like to wish him success in his future career.
Not too bothered to be honest...at Villa he was a big fish in a small pond, now he's a tiny, rich fish trapped in a tide pool next to a beautiful massive ocean full of blue whales...He's morally bankrupt too, the wanker.
This from the official Villa site, short isn't it for the captain?
Aston Villa can confirm that Fabian Delph has exercised the release clause in his contract and will join Manchester City.
We'd like to wish him success in his future career.
success
FUCK THAT
Anyway, enough ranting and swearing about this. Onto something that really matters... Like, how many glasses of wine do I need to lovingly ply my missus with until she gives in tonight?
There was something i wanted to say about Delph for a long time, But i knew on here Delph had many fans who would back him and see him through Claret and Blue eyes, Now i can finally say it.
I never rated him, He doesn't score enough goals and very rarely make assists and i just didn't understand why Villa fans thought he was that great, I mean if he was a Townsend,Taylor or even Boateng i would understand but Delph is no where near as good as them.
To me Villa was his best shot of making a name for himself, maybe a midtable team but a top 6 side he is not, They are out of his league, If i was a Man city fan i be well pissed of because other teams fighting for the prem next season have top players already let alone adding some more now.
That's his England spot gone now, Man City will play him start of the season and see he will not bring nothing special to the team apart from a good engine, To win the Prem you have to be more special than Delph, Look at Chelsea with Matic and Fabregas, I'm sorry Delph you be on the bench before you know it. He will be the weakest link at Man City and you fucked your career up.
Now Sherwood go out and buy a better replacement.
A cocksucker of the highest order. Scum.This.
There was something i wanted to say about Delph for a long time, But i knew on here Delph had many fans who would back him and see him through Claret and Blue eyes, Now i can finally say it.
I never rated him, He doesn't score enough goals and very rarely make assists and i just didn't understand why Villa fans thought he was that great, I mean if he was a Townsend,Taylor or even Boateng i would understand but Delph is no where near as good as them.
To me Villa was his best shot of making a name for himself, maybe a midtable team but a top 6 side he is not, They are out of his league, If i was a Man city fan i be well pissed of because other teams fighting for the prem next season have top players already let alone adding some more now.
That's his England spot gone now, Man City will play him start of the season and see he will not bring nothing special to the team apart from a good engine, To win the Prem you have to be more special than Delph, Look at Chelsea with Matic and Fabregas, I'm sorry Delph you be on the bench before you know it. He will be the weakest link at Man City and you fucked your career up.
Now Sherwood go out and buy a better replacement.
he looks good in a shite team
Can we try something along the lines of that Scottish manager. However this would mean never discussing-mentioning ...........ever again.
He's dead to me!
Delph may be a c*unt, but after "that" statement on the OS, we have become the joke of the English PL. The amateurs night show!Yep and the OS should be taking down the buy a ST flyer with The Yorkshire wanker and Benteke in it .
Delph may be a c*unt, but after "that" statement on the OS, we have become the joke of the English PL. The amateurs night show!
we will see this as just another example of just how contemptible the average premiership footballer has become
Delph may be a c*unt, but after "that" statement on the OS, we have become the joke of the English PL. The amateurs night show!
Can't you read between the lines? That statement was the minimum of professional courtesy. It speaks volumes of what they think of him.
Calm down some of you. Delph wasn't even that good. Gueye is an upgrade.
Delph knew Benteke was going, it's bullshit. Claiming he intended on staying the length of his contract, bullshit, he inserted an £8m clause in it after all. The guy is just a liar now and anything he says i'll take with a pinch of dog shit. He will try and justify his piss takery anyway he can right now.
I assumed Archie meant the statement Delph made a week ago, not what the club said today.
The media are ripping into him.
He will be remembered for the u turns and nothing else. His football isnt good enough to be remembered
Far worse than Sterling. At least that overrated turd didnt shy away from wanting to leave
The media are ripping into him.
He will be remembered for the u turns and nothing else. His football isnt good enough to be remembered
Far worse than Sterling. At least that overrated turd didnt shy away from wanting to leave
It was never a U turn, he was just haggling his wages up over the last week.
Lying wanker
Just showing his stats on SSN. 28 games 0 goals 3 assists. Fuck off and rot. You wont be missed.More bookings than assists. As a player, he's no great loss but it's the complete lack of giving a shit about how fans feel that makes me really hope that this goes totally pear shaped for the grasping little twat. I'd love it if his next game against Villa is for Man City's reserves. Love it
Delph knew Benteke was going, it's bullshit. Claiming he intended on staying the length of his contract, bullshit, he inserted an £8m clause in it after all. The guy is just a liar now and anything he says i'll take with a pinch of dog shit. He will try and justify his piss takery anyway he can right now.
Delph may be a c*unt, but after "that" statement on the OS, we have become the joke of the English PL. The amateurs night show!
Can't you read between the lines? That statement was the minimum of professional courtesy. It speaks volumes of what they think of him.
Maybe I am lost in translation mates, and thank you for your kind words Legion, but my English is actually poor.
But please help me to understand the point mates.
On the OS has been published the statement that Delph would remain.
Now he's gone.
Doesn't this mean that Tom Fox made an amateur figure?
What are they saying?
The media are ripping into him.
He will be remembered for the u turns and nothing else. His football isnt good enough to be remembered
Far worse than Sterling. At least that overrated turd didnt shy away from wanting to leave
Calm down some of you. Delph wasn't even that good. Gueye is an upgrade.
not the point thou is it Hoppo ;)
The media are ripping into him.
He will be remembered for the u turns and nothing else. His football isnt good enough to be remembered
Far worse than Sterling. At least that overrated turd didnt shy away from wanting to leave
What are they saying?
Ha, Well if you believe that lineIt was never a U turn, he was just haggling his wages up over the last week.
Lying wanker
He's signed for the same amount of money he was offered last wee. He's still a very rude word though.
Fuck him. We'll move on and be fine.
It doesn't make any difference either way, and he's dead to me now anyway, but I can't help thinking that the media reaction to his u-turn last week might have prompted this. Its almost as if you are not allowed to be independently minded - if a 'bigger' club comes in for you, then you are obliged to up sticks and leave. He was almost unanimously declared as being a 'bottler' for not going. Another reason to hate modern football.
Fuck him. We'll move on and be fine.
I look at our squad now and think we're in big trouble without major reinforcements. With the c*** and benteke gone we've got am extremely weak squad
Like many before him Fabian Delph has used Aston Villa. Doubtless there will be others seeking to emulate Unsworth, Hodge, Downing, Stas, Curcic, Ireland, Jenas and all the rest who have taken from us without any consideration of obligation to the club. What now has to happen is that those who run the club must become massively less naive and put the club and the well being of the club at the top of the agenda. We have to become more hard nosed and demanding in our contract relationships with players. In addition we have to bear grudges towards the other clubs who turn us over, What comes around goes around and Man City, once the court jesters of football have become a contagion and must be treated as such. If ever the opportunity arises to do Man City a bad turn we should grab it with both hands. They have plundered us to get their paperwork in order. They have done the impossible and made me want to see Manchester United dominate them.
I think we are in big big trouble. We've lost our 2 standout players, we have a very inexperienced manager supported by Ray bloody Wilkins, we have no captain, no real leaders at the club still.
3 weeks til the season starts is it ? So much to do. Fucking hell.
The Man City website is probably the most loathsomely smug thing I've seen in a while. 'The England and former Aston Villa skipper spoke shortly after officially becoming City’s new No.18, and he says he intends to make the most of the chance he’s been given.' Oh how gracious of Big Club (#bigclub) Manchester City, to deign to pluck the simple country boy from provincial Aston Villa and give him the chance - imagine! - at such a wondrous club as this oil-and-jihad fuelled nouveau riche monstrosity.Yep and they fund ISIS to stay out of Abu Dhabi.
I do not like them.
Like many before him Fabian Delph has used Aston Villa. Doubtless there will be others seeking to emulate Unsworth, Hodge, Downing, Stas, Curcic, Ireland, Jenas and all the rest who have taken from us without any consideration of obligation to the club. What now has to happen is that those who run the club must become massively less naive and put the club and the well being of the club at the top of the agenda. We have to become more hard nosed and demanding in our contract relationships with players. In addition we have to bear grudges towards the other clubs who turn us over, What comes around goes around and Man City, once the court jesters of football have become a contagion and must be treated as such. If ever the opportunity arises to do Man City a bad turn we should grab it with both hands. They have plundered us to get their paperwork in order. They have done the impossible and made me want to see Manchester United dominate them.
I think we are in big big trouble. We've lost our 2 standout players, we have a very inexperienced manager supported by Ray bloody Wilkins, we have no captain, no real leaders at the club still.
3 weeks til the season starts is it ? So much to do. Fucking hell.
Has the seemingly collapsed takover influenced this?
The Man City website is probably the most loathsomely smug thing I've seen in a while. 'The England and former Aston Villa skipper spoke shortly after officially becoming City’s new No.18, and he says he intends to make the most of the chance he’s been given.' Oh how gracious of Big Club (#bigclub) Manchester City, to deign to pluck the simple country boy from provincial Aston Villa and give him the chance - imagine! - at such a wondrous club as this oil-and-jihad fuelled nouveau riche monstrosity.Yep and they fund ISIS to stay out of Abu Dhabi.
I do not like them.
Cock ends
Yes my comment about Jenas was harsh but we do have a track record for being a free nursing home for players with long term injuries, Delaney and Dunne to name but two.
They could have offered him a contract a lot earlier, then he would probably have signed it without the clause.Like many before him Fabian Delph has used Aston Villa. Doubtless there will be others seeking to emulate Unsworth, Hodge, Downing, Stas, Curcic, Ireland, Jenas and all the rest who have taken from us without any consideration of obligation to the club. What now has to happen is that those who run the club must become massively less naive and put the club and the well being of the club at the top of the agenda. We have to become more hard nosed and demanding in our contract relationships with players. In addition we have to bear grudges towards the other clubs who turn us over, What comes around goes around and Man City, once the court jesters of football have become a contagion and must be treated as such. If ever the opportunity arises to do Man City a bad turn we should grab it with both hands. They have plundered us to get their paperwork in order. They have done the impossible and made me want to see Manchester United dominate them.
How can you blame the club?
We got £8m for a player who could have left for nothing. How can the club make a player sign a new contract if he doesnt want to. Players have all the power.
“I spoke with Joe Hart when I was with him for England and he was always been telling me how the Club has come on and what City are trying to achieve - and Micah Richards told me that as far as he is concerned, this is the best club in the world and he had the time of his life here."
What a tosser
“I spoke with Joe Hart when I was with him for England and he was always been telling me how the Club has come on and what City are trying to achieve - and Micah Richards told me that as far as he is concerned, this is the best club in the world and he had the time of his life here."
What a tosser
“I spoke with Joe Hart when I was with him for England and he was always been telling me how the Club has come on and what City are trying to achieve - and Micah Richards told me that as far as he is concerned, this is the best club in the world and he had the time of his life here."
What a tosser
Thanks Micah.
I am not blaming the club. They have been decent and fair and honourable in their dealings in a world of freeloaders and snake oil salesmen. If we are not to have more Delph debacles we have to start playing by the same ruthless standards of self interest as all the others.
I am not blaming the club. They have been decent and fair and honourable in their dealings in a world of freeloaders and snake oil salesmen. If we are not to have more Delph debacles we have to start playing by the same ruthless standards of self interest as all the others.
“Leaving Aston Villa Football Club is the hardest decision I’ve ever had to make,” Delph said. “I’ve had some amazing times and made some great friends during my time at the club and I’ll always be thankful to them for giving me the opportunity to play in the Premier League.
“As has been widely reported I initially turned down the opportunity to join Manchester City. That decision was purely down to the love I have for Aston Villa and its great supporters.
“When I was made captain of Villa it was a huge honour for me and I took the responsibility incredibly seriously. I signed my new contract last season with the view of staying at the club for the duration of the deal and never with the intention to leave a year later.
“My decision to stay initially was purely based on the emotion and feelings that I hold for the club and the people there that I would be walking away from - rather than looking at the football opportunity that had been placed in front of me.
“I’ve experienced some incredible low times in my career with injuries and at one point even questioned whether I would even return to Premiership level. Despite that, I’ve always been 100% committed to improving my game and developing as a player and a person.
“As a kid watching the game on TV and then as a young footballer you dream about testing yourself against the best in the world, to compete for major trophies and to play in the Champions League. I’ve proved that I can play at the very top level with England and believe I owe it to myself to take the challenge of playing for one of the biggest clubs in the world in Manchester City.
“I have been immensely proud to captain such a great club and want to thank everyone at Aston Villa - most importantly the fans - for the amazing support they have shown me during my time there.
“I am now excited for the future with Manchester City and helping the club to succeed in the coming season and beyond.”
Our ex manager speaks.....
“Fabian has every right to change his mind” Paul Lambert joins us. http://t.co/NI1sjtGRxI http://t.co/KHFGRo5pmf
Disappointed that the club wished him well for the future tbh When Downing shat on us it was just a short statement saying he'd left the club and nothing else. I don't know why the club felt they needed to say that really in the circumstances.
Our ex manager speaks.....
“Fabian has every right to change his mind” Paul Lambert joins us. http://t.co/NI1sjtGRxI http://t.co/KHFGRo5pmf
Delph just got given a 5 year deal on Man City wages. In effect he has just become independently wealthy in his mid twenties and no longer has to worry about his career or making a living ever again. I wish i could say I would have turned that down but, well I doubt I would.That's the attitude that I would have taken had he left a week or so ago when it was first suggested.
Disappointed that the club wished him well for the future tbh When Downing shat on us it was just a short statement saying he'd left the club and nothing else. I don't know why the club felt they needed to say that really in the circumstances.
“I spoke with Joe Hart when I was with him for England and he was always been telling me how the Club has come on and what City are trying to achieve - and Micah Richards told me that as far as he is concerned, this is the best club in the world and he had the time of his life here."
What a tosser
It's the same every fucking time we get a player in the England squad they chat to players at City ,United etc and they fuck off ...
Oh and Micah stfu
Nope. We have more class than them, and we're not changing that for anything.That's what the Downing statement said What's the difference? in fact this exit is much worse!
Nope. We have more class than them, and we're not changing that for anything. They can buy as many trophies as they like with the money they don't spend on al-Qaeda and hushing up slave funerals, but they'll always be graceless arrivistes whose success will be ever accompanied by an asterisk.Excellent , as ever.Churchillian.
Honestly, I can't believe it. What an omnicunt he truly is.
“Leaving Aston Villa Football Club is the hardest decision I’ve ever had to make,” Delph said. “I’ve had some amazing times and made some great friends during my time at the club and I’ll always be thankful to them for giving me the opportunity to play in the Premier League.
“As has been widely reported I initially turned down the opportunity to join Manchester City. That decision was purely down to the love I have for Aston Villa and its great supporters.
“When I was made captain of Villa it was a huge honour for me and I took the responsibility incredibly seriously. I signed my new contract last season with the view of staying at the club for the duration of the deal and never with the intention to leave a year later.
“My decision to stay initially was purely based on the emotion and feelings that I hold for the club and the people there that I would be walking away from - rather than looking at the football opportunity that had been placed in front of me.
“I’ve experienced some incredible low times in my career with injuries and at one point even questioned whether I would even return to Premiership level. Despite that, I’ve always been 100% committed to improving my game and developing as a player and a person.
“As a kid watching the game on TV and then as a young footballer you dream about testing yourself against the best in the world, to compete for major trophies and to play in the Champions League. I’ve proved that I can play at the very top level with England and believe I owe it to myself to take the challenge of playing for one of the biggest clubs in the world in Manchester City.
“I have been immensely proud to captain such a great club and want to thank everyone at Aston Villa - most importantly the fans - for the amazing support they have shown me during my time there.
“I am now excited for the future with Manchester City and helping the club to succeed in the coming season and beyond.”
P.S
And a truck load of money.
A suitable chant for the season ahead. To the tune of they're coming upppppp, they're going downnnnn
He's staying here, he's fucking off,
he's staying here, he's fucking off,
he's staying here, he's fucking off,
he's staying here, he's fucking off,
Fabian Delph, what a massive f*cking c*nt , a massive f*cking c*nt
Thing is through no real fault of their own the club now has a massive job on. They've been let down by Delph and Benteke is leaving. We need quality in fast.
Honestly, I can't believe it. What an omnicunt he truly is.
Thanks for a good chuckle Risso.
Omnicunt: The highest attainable form of cuntishness. An omnicunt is a c*** in every way, has power over all c***s, and cannot be outcunted.
See also uber cnut
Never put down to malice what you can put down to stupidity.And boy, is he coming over as dim.I can believe he doesn't understand how a contract works.Maybe Raheem will turn his head and tell him how wonderful life was at Liverpool.Or QPR, more to his level .Nice one Alex...summed up very neatly.
Reading the statement on the club site it is obvious this took them completely by surprise and it was such a terse statement I think they are just as angry as we are.The printers who do all the club marketing stuff have had to bin everything and start again over the weekend ,I hope he lives to regret his decision,but I will never regret supporting our wonderful club which compares so well with that classless ,souless and boring lot he is now joining.
I would have respected his decision last week to go, knowing that he could have gone on a free by letting his contract run down. However, the boost he gave the fans with his comments have changed that. The only other Villa player in my 45 years of watching them I despise as much is Hodge, another total cock
I would have respected his decision last week to go, knowing that he could have gone on a free by letting his contract run down. However, the boost he gave the fans with his comments have changed that. The only other Villa player in my 45 years of watching them I despise as much is Hodge, another total cock
Hodge never gave the impression he was anything other than a mercenary rat deserting a sinking ship. Delph told us less than a week ago how much he was looking forward to captaining it.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/fabian-delph-u-turn-further-proof-6088186
Article in the mirror written by someone who appears to be trying to be a bigger c**t than the one who's just left us.
The closing line of "Delph himself was never boasting about 'loyalty', so those who bragged on his behalf were doing a decent professional a disservice." is such utter bullshit that I could smell it through my laptop.
I would have respected his decision last week to go, knowing that he could have gone on a free by letting his contract run down. However, the boost he gave the fans with his comments have changed that. The only other Villa player in my 45 years of watching them I despise as much is Hodge, another total cock
Hodge never gave the impression he was anything other than a mercenary rat deserting a sinking ship. Delph told us less than a week ago how much he was looking forward to captaining it.
“Leaving Aston Villa Football Club is the hardest decision I’ve ever had to make,” Delph said. “I’ve had some amazing times and made some great friends during my time at the club and I’ll always be thankful to them for giving me the opportunity to play in the Premier League.
“As has been widely reported I initially turned down the opportunity to join Manchester City. That decision was purely down to the love I have for Aston Villa and its great supporters.
“When I was made captain of Villa it was a huge honour for me and I took the responsibility incredibly seriously. I signed my new contract last season with the view of staying at the club for the duration of the deal and never with the intention to leave a year later.
“My decision to stay initially was purely based on the emotion and feelings that I hold for the club and the people there that I would be walking away from - rather than looking at the football opportunity that had been placed in front of me.
“I’ve experienced some incredible low times in my career with injuries and at one point even questioned whether I would even return to Premiership level. Despite that, I’ve always been 100% committed to improving my game and developing as a player and a person.
“As a kid watching the game on TV and then as a young footballer you dream about testing yourself against the best in the world, to compete for major trophies and to play in the Champions League. I’ve proved that I can play at the very top level with England and believe I owe it to myself to take the challenge of playing for one of the biggest clubs in the world in Manchester City.
“I have been immensely proud to captain such a great club and want to thank everyone at Aston Villa - most importantly the fans - for the amazing support they have shown me during my time there.
“I am now excited for the future with Manchester City and helping the club to succeed in the coming season and beyond.”
P.S
And a truck load of money.
Well if you intended to see out the deal why did you insert an £8 million clause? And you didn't see a year of the contract you barely saw out 6 months.
Delph rubbing it in a bit with that comment. No mention of hi time at Villa, think it might be a while before the fallout finally comes out
Delph rubbing it in a bit with that comment. No mention of hi time at Villa, think it might be a while before the fallout finally comes out
What you mean his two years on the treatment table in the good years or his three years fighting relegation in the fit years?
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/fabian-delph-u-turn-further-proof-6088186
Article in the mirror written by someone who appears to be trying to be a bigger c**t than the one who's just left us.
The closing line of "Delph himself was never boasting about 'loyalty', so those who bragged on his behalf were doing a decent professional a disservice." is such utter bullshit that I could smell it through my laptop.
Delph rubbing it in a bit with that comment. No mention of hi time at Villa, think it might be a while before the fallout finally comes out
What you mean his two years on the treatment table in the good years or his three years fighting relegation in the fit years?
In 6 years we got 1 season of over 25 league games and just 3 goals. Not much to talk about really is there? He will be replaced easier than it feels right now.
On TalkSport now.Very good Dave.
Ha, Well if you believe that lineIt was never a U turn, he was just haggling his wages up over the last week.
Lying wanker
He's signed for the same amount of money he was offered last wee. He's still a very rude word though.
They've upped his package over the last few days. No two ways about it IMHO.Ha, Well if you believe that lineIt was never a U turn, he was just haggling his wages up over the last week.
Lying wanker
He's signed for the same amount of money he was offered last wee. He's still a very rude word though.
Of course you'll know better I take it?
If Delph didn't want to sign for £120K a week I don't think £140k a week is really going to matter.Over a 5 year contract that's £5m more . Of course it matters and his agent would be all over that .
They've upped his package over the last few days. No two ways about it IMHO.Ha, Well if you believe that lineIt was never a U turn, he was just haggling his wages up over the last week.
Lying wanker
He's signed for the same amount of money he was offered last wee. He's still a very rude word though.
Of course you'll know better I take it?
Always thought that Bobby Gould was a twat, tonight confirms it.Any chance of a synopsis for those lucky enough not to have access to talksport?
This from the official Villa site, short isn't it for the captain?
Aston Villa can confirm that Fabian Delph has exercised the release clause in his contract and will join Manchester City.
We'd like to wish him success in his future career.
success
FUCK THAT
I can almost hear a slow clap at the end of that club mini-statement.
Anyway, enough ranting and swearing about this. Onto something that really matters... Like, how many glasses of wine do I need to lovingly ply my missus with until she gives in tonight?
If people carry on actually believing what footballers say in prepared statements they will continually be disappointed
If people carry on actually believing what footballers say in prepared statements they will continually be disappointed
Yeah, but in this case it's not like it was wording that could be misinterpreted. He's just flat out lied.
GerMuch obliged. I'm distraught that i'm missing such great broadcasting tbh.
Gould is convinced that Delph changed his mind this week because with the sale of Sterling, Benteke is off to Liverpool as they now have the money for him.
'He's looked around the dressing room and thought, 'I don't fancy our chances'.'
(Dave made the point that Benteke leaving has been on the cards at the end of every season, but especially this one.)
Several people have pointed out that Delph said he would stay, last weekend, when the Sterling move was on.
Gould just keeps repeating his theory.
I can't listen to any more!
While this shitstorm unfolded, the club asked its fans to tweet about their favourite Premier League moments on behalf of Sky.
Modern football, right there. Fucking c***s, the lot of them.
If people carry on actually believing what footballers say in prepared statements they will continually be disappointed
Yeah, but in this case it's not like it was wording that could be misinterpreted. He's just flat out lied.
I never took any of it seriously and said so at the time
The next player that walks through the doors at Villa and says 'great club' proud to play for them' etc will just be going through the motions of football speak
If you take what they seriously you will be let down more often than not
I’ve experienced some incredible low times in my career with injuries
yes we stuck by you and paid you good wages
He won't get injured sitting on the bench.Bed sores
The wanker.
Arsenal will be hoping Citeh will play Delph against them this season so their players can run past him like he wasn't there. Kinda like the FA Cup. Delph and the rest of our team were shown up for what they are that day. Shit themselves when they realised they were boys against men. Citeh have a goodish squad player on their hands. But don't expect him to step up to the plate on the big occasion.Sadly it appears we played that final and the spine of the team possibly all knew it was their last game at the club (& played like they couldn't give a fuck) - given vlaar Delph benteke
Arsenal will be hoping Citeh will play Delph against them this season so their players can run past him like he wasn't there. Kinda like the FA Cup. Delph and the rest of our team were shown up for what they are that day. Shit themselves when they realised they were boys against men. Citeh have a goodish squad player on their hands. But don't expect him to step up to the plate on the big occasion.
Arsenal will be hoping Citeh will play Delph against them this season so their players can run past him like he wasn't there. Kinda like the FA Cup. Delph and the rest of our team were shown up for what they are that day. Shit themselves when they realised they were boys against men. Citeh have a goodish squad player on their hands. But don't expect him to step up to the plate on the big occasion.Sadly it appears we played that final and the spine of the team possibly all knew it was their last game at the club (& played like they couldn't give a fuck) - given vlaar Delph benteke
Of all the players that have left he's hurt me the most
Arsenal will be hoping Citeh will play Delph against them this season so their players can run past him like he wasn't there. Kinda like the FA Cup. Delph and the rest of our team were shown up for what they are that day. Shit themselves when they realised they were boys against men. Citeh have a goodish squad player on their hands. But don't expect him to step up to the plate on the big occasion.Sadly it appears we played that final and the spine of the team possibly all knew it was their last game at the club (& played like they couldn't give a fuck) - given vlaar Delph benteke
I'd imagine deals for Delph, cleverly and Benteke were already set in motion.Arsenal will be hoping Citeh will play Delph against them this season so their players can run past him like he wasn't there. Kinda like the FA Cup. Delph and the rest of our team were shown up for what they are that day. Shit themselves when they realised they were boys against men. Citeh have a goodish squad player on their hands. But don't expect him to step up to the plate on the big occasion.Sadly it appears we played that final and the spine of the team possibly all knew it was their last game at the club (& played like they couldn't give a fuck) - given vlaar Delph benteke
If that was true (and I don't believe it was) then there's more chance they'd bust a gut to put themselves in the shop window.
I'd imagine deals for Delph, cleverly and Benteke were already set in motion.Arsenal will be hoping Citeh will play Delph against them this season so their players can run past him like he wasn't there. Kinda like the FA Cup. Delph and the rest of our team were shown up for what they are that day. Shit themselves when they realised they were boys against men. Citeh have a goodish squad player on their hands. But don't expect him to step up to the plate on the big occasion.Sadly it appears we played that final and the spine of the team possibly all knew it was their last game at the club (& played like they couldn't give a fuck) - given vlaar Delph benteke
If that was true (and I don't believe it was) then there's more chance they'd bust a gut to put themselves in the shop window.
The bloke who tweeted the photo is threatening all sorts of legals to anyone who reproduces it uncredited.Dave, a few month ago you were telling us minions not to panic as Delph, Vlaar and Benteke hadn't left. Any words to the wise now? Is it all a dream?
I hope he realises how hated he is now. It could easily have been avoided too, because I genuinely think if he'd put a more realistic release fee clause into his contract peoole would have accepted it. Or if he'd at least have honoured 18 months of his contract. But now he will go down as one of the most hated players in the clubs history. I hope he fails badly there.
He won't get injured sitting on the bench.
The wanker.
The bloke who tweeted the photo is threatening all sorts of legals to anyone who reproduces it uncredited.Dave, a few month ago you were telling us minions not to panic as Delph, Vlaar and Benteke hadn't left. Any words to the wise now? Is it all a dream?
Errrr...I'm pretty such that is exactly what did said and insinuated in both his statements. What a cunty knob jockey you are David Kidd.http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/fabian-delph-u-turn-further-proof-6088186
Article in the mirror written by someone who appears to be trying to be a bigger c**t than the one who's just left us.
The closing line of "Delph himself was never boasting about 'loyalty', so those who bragged on his behalf were doing a decent professional a disservice." is such utter bullshit that I could smell it through my laptop.
That guy Dave Kidd or whatever his name is, this "journalist " typifies all that is wrong about football and those who write about it.
While this shitstorm unfolded, the club asked its fans to tweet about their favourite Premier League moments on behalf of Sky.
Modern football, right there. Fucking c***s, the lot of them.
Today of all days the Club need to just give it a rest.
Au contrare, it's all making perfect sense.I'd imagine deals for Delph, cleverly and Benteke were already set in motion.Arsenal will be hoping Citeh will play Delph against them this season so their players can run past him like he wasn't there. Kinda like the FA Cup. Delph and the rest of our team were shown up for what they are that day. Shit themselves when they realised they were boys against men. Citeh have a goodish squad player on their hands. But don't expect him to step up to the plate on the big occasion.Sadly it appears we played that final and the spine of the team possibly all knew it was their last game at the club (& played like they couldn't give a fuck) - given vlaar Delph benteke
If that was true (and I don't believe it was) then there's more chance they'd bust a gut to put themselves in the shop window.
Which is why almost two months later two of them still hadn't happened. You've not thought this one through very well.
Au contrare, it's all making perfect sense.I'd imagine deals for Delph, cleverly and Benteke were already set in motion.Arsenal will be hoping Citeh will play Delph against them this season so their players can run past him like he wasn't there. Kinda like the FA Cup. Delph and the rest of our team were shown up for what they are that day. Shit themselves when they realised they were boys against men. Citeh have a goodish squad player on their hands. But don't expect him to step up to the plate on the big occasion.Sadly it appears we played that final and the spine of the team possibly all knew it was their last game at the club (& played like they couldn't give a fuck) - given vlaar Delph benteke
If that was true (and I don't believe it was) then there's more chance they'd bust a gut to put themselves in the shop window.
Which is why almost two months later two of them still hadn't happened. You've not thought this one through very well.
While this shitstorm unfolded, the club asked its fans to tweet about their favourite Premier League moments on behalf of Sky.
Modern football, right there. Fucking c***s, the lot of them.
Today of all days the Club need to just give it a rest.
Fobbing us off yet again with more PR crap. Delph has let us down, but there cannot be a worse run Premier League club than us now. Thought this would end when Faulkner went, but Fox has been shown to be another incompetent liar.
Delph is a c*** and should be treated as such. He fooled the club in January and the same over the last two weeks, never trust a Yorkshire bastard. Epitomises all that is wrong with English football, thank god I am a third Welsh.
I am a third Welsh.
Ah right on cue a chance to finally stick the knife in supported by our oh so friendly local rag.
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/fabian-delph-every-right-change-9682662
Ah right on cue a chance to finally stick the knife in supported by our oh so friendly local rag.
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/fabian-delph-every-right-change-9682662
Go away Paul, no one wants to hear from you.
Not trawled through any posts tonight, I just remembered how unrealistic your original views were, God bless you, in my view. Just pointing out that you were wrong - assuming you are man enough to accept it.The bloke who tweeted the photo is threatening all sorts of legals to anyone who reproduces it uncredited.Dave, a few month ago you were telling us minions not to panic as Delph, Vlaar and Benteke hadn't left. Any words to the wise now? Is it all a dream?
Clearly not, and congratulations on being sad enough to trawl through months of my posts.
Ah right on cue a chance to finally stick the knife in supported by our oh so friendly local rag.
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/fabian-delph-every-right-change-9682662
Not trawled through any posts tonight, I just remembered how unrealistic your original views were, God bless you, in my view. Just pointing out that you were wrong - assuming you are man enough to accept it.The bloke who tweeted the photo is threatening all sorts of legals to anyone who reproduces it uncredited.Dave, a few month ago you were telling us minions not to panic as Delph, Vlaar and Benteke hadn't left. Any words to the wise now? Is it all a dream?
Clearly not, and congratulations on being sad enough to trawl through months of my posts.
Ah right on cue a chance to finally stick the knife in supported by our oh so friendly local rag.
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/fabian-delph-every-right-change-9682662
Go away Paul, no one wants to hear from you.
On the contrary, what he says about changing your mind is exactly right. A few of us used to think he was a decent manager.
While this shitstorm unfolded, the club asked its fans to tweet about their favourite Premier League moments on behalf of Sky.
Modern football, right there. Fucking c***s, the lot of them.
Today of all days the Club need to just give it a rest.
Fobbing us off yet again with more PR crap. Delph has let us down, but there cannot be a worse run Premier League club than us now. Thought this would end when Faulkner went, but Fox has been shown to be another incompetent liar.
I agree Faulkner was incompetent but how has Fox been an incompetent liar?
Many posters were concerned about Vlaar, Benteke and Delph going in the summer and you took great pride in disagreeing that this would happen. Now it's happened, what's your view?Not trawled through any posts tonight, I just remembered how unrealistic your original views were, God bless you, in my view. Just pointing out that you were wrong - assuming you are man enough to accept it.The bloke who tweeted the photo is threatening all sorts of legals to anyone who reproduces it uncredited.Dave, a few month ago you were telling us minions not to panic as Delph, Vlaar and Benteke hadn't left. Any words to the wise now? Is it all a dream?
Clearly not, and congratulations on being sad enough to trawl through months of my posts.
You've just said I said those three players hadn't left at a time when they hadn't left. Perhaps you could point out what was wrong about that.
Many posters were concerned about Vlaar, Benteke and Delph going in the summer and you took great pride in disagreeing that this would happen. Now it's happened, what's your view?Not trawled through any posts tonight, I just remembered how unrealistic your original views were, God bless you, in my view. Just pointing out that you were wrong - assuming you are man enough to accept it.The bloke who tweeted the photo is threatening all sorts of legals to anyone who reproduces it uncredited.Dave, a few month ago you were telling us minions not to panic as Delph, Vlaar and Benteke hadn't left. Any words to the wise now? Is it all a dream?
Clearly not, and congratulations on being sad enough to trawl through months of my posts.
You've just said I said those three players hadn't left at a time when they hadn't left. Perhaps you could point out what was wrong about that.
While this shitstorm unfolded, the club asked its fans to tweet about their favourite Premier League moments on behalf of Sky.
Modern football, right there. Fucking c***s, the lot of them.
Today of all days the Club need to just give it a rest.
Fobbing us off yet again with more PR crap. Delph has let us down, but there cannot be a worse run Premier League club than us now. Thought this would end when Faulkner went, but Fox has been shown to be another incompetent liar.
I agree Faulkner was incompetent but how has Fox been an incompetent liar?
I don't know about Fox, but I would like to know what the club thought the message was when, negotiating a new deal for Delph a few months ago, he asked for a release clause at 8m - woefully less than he's worth, and coincidentally what we paid for him - and they agreed to put it in.
That's one thing.
Then I wonder what they were thinking when, despite this release clause - which was quite clearly a "let's stick this in here so you don't get no fee for me when I fuck off in the summer, but that's what I am going to do" clause, because who on earth thinks an 8m release clause means anything other than that - they decided to make such an enormous deal over his new contract.
It looks incredibly naive. What on earth was that release fee ever going to mean but him leaving?
Delph is a snake for what he's done this week, and deep down, I suspect he knows it, but the club have shown incredible naivety in the way they've acted over this. They must have known this would happen, they must have accepted it when they put that mentally low release fee in.
I thought this sort of shit was meant to stop when we got rid of Faulkner and brought in Fox.
Many posters were concerned about Vlaar, Benteke and Delph going in the summer and you took great pride in disagreeing that this would happen. Now it's happened, what's your view?Not trawled through any posts tonight, I just remembered how unrealistic your original views were, God bless you, in my view. Just pointing out that you were wrong - assuming you are man enough to accept it.The bloke who tweeted the photo is threatening all sorts of legals to anyone who reproduces it uncredited.Dave, a few month ago you were telling us minions not to panic as Delph, Vlaar and Benteke hadn't left. Any words to the wise now? Is it all a dream?
Clearly not, and congratulations on being sad enough to trawl through months of my posts.
You've just said I said those three players hadn't left at a time when they hadn't left. Perhaps you could point out what was wrong about that.
While this shitstorm unfolded, the club asked its fans to tweet about their favourite Premier League moments on behalf of Sky.
Modern football, right there. Fucking c***s, the lot of them.
Today of all days the Club need to just give it a rest.
Fobbing us off yet again with more PR crap. Delph has let us down, but there cannot be a worse run Premier League club than us now. Thought this would end when Faulkner went, but Fox has been shown to be another incompetent liar.
I agree Faulkner was incompetent but how has Fox been an incompetent liar?
Neither.Many posters were concerned about Vlaar, Benteke and Delph going in the summer and you took great pride in disagreeing that this would happen. Now it's happened, what's your view?Not trawled through any posts tonight, I just remembered how unrealistic your original views were, God bless you, in my view. Just pointing out that you were wrong - assuming you are man enough to accept it.The bloke who tweeted the photo is threatening all sorts of legals to anyone who reproduces it uncredited.Dave, a few month ago you were telling us minions not to panic as Delph, Vlaar and Benteke hadn't left. Any words to the wise now? Is it all a dream?
Clearly not, and congratulations on being sad enough to trawl through months of my posts.
You've just said I said those three players hadn't left at a time when they hadn't left. Perhaps you could point out what was wrong about that.
what on earth are you trying to prove here? Are you aiming to show how much outraged you are than another poster? Do you think Dave is happy that those players are leaving the club or have left?
Neither.Many posters were concerned about Vlaar, Benteke and Delph going in the summer and you took great pride in disagreeing that this would happen. Now it's happened, what's your view?Not trawled through any posts tonight, I just remembered how unrealistic your original views were, God bless you, in my view. Just pointing out that you were wrong - assuming you are man enough to accept it.The bloke who tweeted the photo is threatening all sorts of legals to anyone who reproduces it uncredited.Dave, a few month ago you were telling us minions not to panic as Delph, Vlaar and Benteke hadn't left. Any words to the wise now? Is it all a dream?
Clearly not, and congratulations on being sad enough to trawl through months of my posts.
You've just said I said those three players hadn't left at a time when they hadn't left. Perhaps you could point out what was wrong about that.
what on earth are you trying to prove here? Are you aiming to show how much outraged you are than another poster? Do you think Dave is happy that those players are leaving the club or have left?
But there is surely a point about posting something which, at the time can't be proven wrong, but turns out to be wrong, but later is clearly wrong and against the consensus on the forum.
If you don't accept this you are in 'the end of the world is nigh' territory. Still waiting for Dav's view.
I haven't researched your old posts, and won't, but I clearly remember your posts stating that we all shouldn't be so panicky over Vlaar, Delph and Tekers leaving. I may be wrong, but not sure if you are denying this?Many posters were concerned about Vlaar, Benteke and Delph going in the summer and you took great pride in disagreeing that this would happen. Now it's happened, what's your view?Not trawled through any posts tonight, I just remembered how unrealistic your original views were, God bless you, in my view. Just pointing out that you were wrong - assuming you are man enough to accept it.The bloke who tweeted the photo is threatening all sorts of legals to anyone who reproduces it uncredited.Dave, a few month ago you were telling us minions not to panic as Delph, Vlaar and Benteke hadn't left. Any words to the wise now? Is it all a dream?
Clearly not, and congratulations on being sad enough to trawl through months of my posts.
You've just said I said those three players hadn't left at a time when they hadn't left. Perhaps you could point out what was wrong about that.
You find me where I said they wouldn't go and I'll tell you.
I'm also not ecstatic about Micah Richards part in this as well. Delph has dropped him right in it here with those comments about how great it is at Citeh.
Atleast when Patrik Berger told Gaz Baz to get his lard arse up to 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' he hadn't just signed for us.
But there is surely a point about posting something which, at the time can't be proven wrong, but turns out to be wrong, but later is clearly wrong and against the consensus on the forum.You're the one who has repeatedly posted bollocks about hillsbrough, aren't you?
Whilst I can understand the anger and disappointment at Delph leaving. Let's just think about it for a moment. Is he that great a player?
He's nowhere near a cowans, platt, houghton, Richardson, Taylor, Merson etc etc. the list is endless. Delph is decent, but we have had much much better midfielders. He gets in the worst England midfield I have seen in a long long time, but that means jack all in my opinion. I think he can be easily replaced and he will disappear into obscurity at City.
I might be wrong, but I'm confident he won't feature for England much beyond this year
What I want to know is, what have snakes done to be associated with a lowlife like Fabian Delph?Brilliant
I think he can be easily replaced and he will disappear into obscurity at City."I might be wrong, but I'm confident he won't feature for England much beyond this year"
I might be wrong, but I'm confident he won't feature for England much beyond this year
Whilst I can understand the anger and disappointment at Delph leaving. Let's just think about it for a moment. Is he that great a player?
He's nowhere near a cowans, platt, houghton, Richardson, Taylor, Merson etc etc. the list is endless. Delph is decent, but we have had much much better midfielders. He gets in the worst England midfield I have seen in a long long time, but that means jack all in my opinion. I think he can be easily replaced and he will disappear into obscurity at City.
I might be wrong, but I'm confident he won't feature for England much beyond this year
On that note - would Ian Taylor have got into the current England team? The answer might come close to judging how good Delph is.
After few hours now ive calmed down a lot and am now feeling much more upbeat. If Benteke and that other bloke hadn't have left we'd probably be spending about £20m on players like Adebayor, Townsend etc. So would have been left with pretty much the same team we've had the last few years. Now we should, SHOULD, have around £55m to spend which hopefully will get us 7 or 8 of these continental fellas we've been linked with, giving us a new looking team altogether. Out of these we may get a Tonev or Helenius, but we could also get a Benteke or two hopefully. In strange way looking forward to next season more now than I was week or so back.
I think he can be easily replaced and he will disappear into obscurity at City."I might be wrong, but I'm confident he won't feature for England much beyond this year"
I might be wrong, but I'm confident he won't feature for England much beyond this year
Yes you may be correct, I certainly hope you are.
"I think he can be easily replaced"
Hereby lies the problem. No he isn't easily replaced.
Whilst I can understand the anger and disappointment at Delph leaving. Let's just think about it for a moment. Is he that great a player?
He's nowhere near a cowans, platt, houghton, Richardson, Taylor, Merson etc etc. the list is endless. Delph is decent, but we have had much much better midfielders. He gets in the worst England midfield I have seen in a long long time, but that means jack all in my opinion. I think he can be easily replaced and he will disappear into obscurity at City.
I might be wrong, but I'm confident he won't feature for England much beyond this year
On that note - would Ian Taylor have got into the current England team? The answer might come close to judging how good Delph is.
I'm also not ecstatic about Micah Richards part in this as well. Delph has dropped him right in it here with those comments about how great it is at Citeh.
Atleast when Patrik Berger told Gaz Baz to get his lard arse up to 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' he hadn't just signed for us.
what part did Richards play? Delph knew he could move to Man City, asked Richards who told him the truth. Were you expecting him to lie when asked about what playing for Man City could mean for his personal finances and career goals?
I'm 25 so Taylor and Merson are the only players I've seen properly - I reckon Delph is better than either personally.IMHO Delph has the potential to be as good as Taylor but he isn't there yet...and he'll never be close to Merson - that's like saying Jordon Henderson is better than Gazza.
I have heard stories about Richards getting negative comments. FFS, get a life. He has been onest and he also admitted last week he had no influence on Delph staying. We need this superb defender on board, so stop this nonsense, Delph left because he wanted to, not because of anyone else
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After few hours now ive calmed down a lot and am now feeling much more upbeat. If Benteke and that other bloke hadn't have left we'd probably be spending about £20m on players like Adebayor, Townsend etc. So would have been left with pretty much the same team we've had the last few years. Now we should, SHOULD, have around £55m to spend which hopefully will get us 7 or 8 of these continental fellas we've been linked with, giving us a new looking team altogether. Out of these we may get a Tonev or Helenius, but we could also get a Benteke or two hopefully. In strange way looking forward to next season more now than I was week or so back.
I admire the optimism, but in the past couple of weeks we have seen a proposed takeover fail to materialise, our best defender and midfielder leave the club and our star striker looking like he is soon to follow them out of the door. A four blow combination that I would have thought has left most fans reeling.
After few hours now ive calmed down a lot and am now feeling much more upbeat. If Benteke and that other bloke hadn't have left we'd probably be spending about £20m on players like Adebayor, Townsend etc. So would have been left with pretty much the same team we've had the last few years. Now we should, SHOULD, have around £55m to spend which hopefully will get us 7 or 8 of these continental fellas we've been linked with, giving us a new looking team altogether. Out of these we may get a Tonev or Helenius, but we could also get a Benteke or two hopefully. In strange way looking forward to next season more now than I was week or so back.
I admire the optimism, but in the past couple of weeks we have seen a proposed takeover fail to materialise, our best defender and midfielder leave the club and our star striker looking like he is soon to follow them out of the door. A four blow combination that I would have thought has left most fans reeling.
The last week has been a total disaster. We can slag off Delph all we like but truth is we've lost a very important player for next to nothing and we've been made to look like mugs in the process.
The lack of a takeover is crushing tbh, we desperately, desperately need invigoration and it just ain't going to happen under Lerner.
Now Tekkers if off to 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' of all places. I usually enjoy the off season weekends before the defeats start up again up. Fed up.
Whatever the reason, I'm very happy and may have had a little faith restored with FD and the world.I didn't realise he had left as I was watching the golf...I've changed my views with regard to the above quote.
Not all footballers are money grabbing w@nkers.
It's a pity this new era didn't start with a new owner as this one has been a disaster for the club.
Would there not have been the option for the club to resist the rock bottom value Delph placed on himself?Yes, but all that would then happen is he leaves for free rather than for £8m.
Would there not have been the option for the club to resist the rock bottom value Delph placed on himself?Yes, but all that would then happen is he leaves for free rather than for £8m.
It still might happen. We could go down next season. Sherwood could turn out to be a two-bit chancer who messes the club up even worse than the last lot. This way he has options.Well lets just say £12m-£16m then.I meant that it's about a third of his market value rather than half - the current England midfield seems to be Henderson, Delph and Wilshere. If somebody tried to buy either of the other two then there wouldn't be any change from £25m, so I'd expect Delph to not be a million miles from that.
I think he realises that £8m is very low so if he wants to keep his options open fair enough but 8m is no longer fair to us, the club he chose to stay with.
As for the second point, sometimes things aren't fair. Hopefully the club see it as a cautionary tale about not waiting for such a long time before offering new contracts to our better players. Like I say, if things go badly for him then he has an out and if they don't then it doesn't matter how much the release clause is because he stays with us.
But if it was only as a precautionary clause because of relegation then once we avoided it the clause would have become redundant. it wasn't so no matter what has happened he is still holding a ridiculously low release clause over our heads
I completely get that Delph's contract situation benefits him far more than it does the club. What I don't get is why it would be in his interests to even think about having it removed. What would be the point?
A spine of the team that finished 17th, where one of those players cost us crucial goal after goal, where one scored zero and made fewer through balls than Phil Jones, where one of them played well in 6 games, but was utter shite in the other 31.
Let's not kid ourselves that we've lost anybody that isn't very easily replaceable with a bit of ambition, which we appear to be showing.
Benteke will be the only significant loss, because he's ruddy world class. How we replace him will be tough, but I fully expect the midfield and defence to be significantly stronger than last season.
I suspect that I am being thick Dave but I would like to know what the net loss would have been to the club if we had said "Sorry Fabian, we can't give you a new contract with the release clause value set so low." If the new contract only started from when the old one expired then I am being thick and I apologize. If however, the new contract kicked in with immediate effect, it actually cost us money to retain him while he intended all the time to trigger the release clause. We got Benteke's release clause spot on, I wonder why Delph's was not.I don't think it's an unreasonable question to ask. If it cost us money in the first place (i.e immediate payrise and signing on fee) then you're right, there probably wouldn't have been much point doing it. It's conjecture though, as I don't think we'll ever see the minutiae of the contract he signed. I think it's safe to say though that the whole £8m won't have been paid to Delph over the last six months, so we've made more than if he hadn't signed it.
I suspect that I am being thick Dave but I would like to know what the net loss would have been to the club if we had said "Sorry Fabian, we can't give you a new contract with the release clause value set so low." If the new contract only started from when the old one expired then I am being thick and I apologize. If however, the new contract kicked in with immediate effect, it actually cost us money to retain him while he intended all the time to trigger the release clause. We got Benteke's release clause spot on, I wonder why Delph's was not.
Whilst I can understand the anger and disappointment at Delph leaving. Let's just think about it for a moment. Is he that great a player?
He's nowhere near a cowans, platt, houghton, Richardson, Taylor, Merson etc etc. the list is endless. Delph is decent, but we have had much much better midfielders. He gets in the worst England midfield I have seen in a long long time, but that means jack all in my opinion. I think he can be easily replaced and he will disappear into obscurity at City.
I might be wrong, but I'm confident he won't feature for England much beyond this year
On that note - would Ian Taylor have got into the current England team? The answer might come close to judging how good Delph is.
Delph and Milner are not recognised by fans who they have not played for. I don't think he is as good as Milner if I am being honest, but he is a very good player. Not sure where Ian Taylor comes into the equation Dave, he would say himself he probably didn't have the talent. He is a massive role model for Villa fans as he feels the highs and lows that we do.
I can see why £8m was inserted but not why it wasn't linked to relegation. If it was an open ended £8m release clause then I think the club should have refused. Not saying that on reflection and as a spurned lover, but that was way below his value - half or third - and given signing on fee, improved wages - it still was a ridiculously low figure.
Also, I don't really buy into the the club getting something rather than nothing for him. The wages he would have been on would have been something we got for him. A paltry figure for a current Englanbd international who could go and do what he did at any time was an insult.
I just don't think the statements make him worse than a player who doesn't make a statement because he can't wait to get out of the door.
Ian Taylor was a better player than Delph, I have no doubts about that.
I just don't think the statements make him worse than a player who doesn't make a statement because he can't wait to get out of the door.
Vlaar Cleverley Delph and Benteke have either left or about to leave, that is pretty much the spine of our team. I just hope that Tim is solidly backed by the chairman and board to get decent replacements in as this easily be the year where we end up one place worse off than last season.
I just don't think the statements make him worse than a player who doesn't make a statement because he can't wait to get out of the door.
You don't think someone who says they're staying at the club, looking forward to the new season, not bailing out (paraphrasing), becomes captain, gets aq signing on fee and new wages from jan - July and then goes for a paltry fee is not worse than a player who simply just says nothing then goes?
Well I do. I see him as duplicitous a fucker as Barry.
I just don't think the statements make him worse than a player who doesn't make a statement because he can't wait to get out of the door.
It's not often that I think you're bang wrong, but on this occasion, you're bang wrong.
The whole episode starting with the signing of the contract with the artificially low release clause in it is just one long list of lies and deceit. His actions mark him out as the most treacherous liar we've ever had in my opinion I'm afraid.
I just don't think the statements make him worse than a player who doesn't make a statement because he can't wait to get out of the door.
You don't think someone who says they're staying at the club, looking forward to the new season, not bailing out (paraphrasing), becomes captain, gets aq signing on fee and new wages from jan - July and then goes for a paltry fee is not worse than a player who simply just says nothing then goes?
Well I do. I see him as duplicitous a fucker as Barry.
Only because we all want to believe that he didn't mean what he said at the time. There isn't a person in the world who has never changed his or her mind at some point. It's annoying, we thought he was going to buck a trend and duplicitous he may be, but he has made a logical decision over an emotional one in the end.
Aside to Gueye and Amarvi joining (good news), I now want some assurances from fox / Lerner that sherwood will get the proceeds of the 2 sales (net £36m say) plus with all this TV money Lerner needs to commit another min of £25m , so sherwood has about £60m to rebuild . We need at least 4 or 5 quality players in the door sharpish .
I just don't think the statements make him worse than a player who doesn't make a statement because he can't wait to get out of the door.
You don't think someone who says they're staying at the club, looking forward to the new season, not bailing out (paraphrasing), becomes captain, gets aq signing on fee and new wages from jan - July and then goes for a paltry fee is not worse than a player who simply just says nothing then goes?
Well I do. I see him as duplicitous a fucker as Barry.
Only because we all want to believe that he didn't mean what he said at the time. There isn't a person in the world who has never changed his or her mind at some point. It's annoying, we thought he was going to buck a trend and duplicitous he may be, but he has made a logical decision over an emotional one in the end.
Nobody can blame any player for moving on for the chance to win things and treble their salary, I'd do exactly the same, however it's the litany of lies that makes this so much worse. The only reason for inserting the £8m clause was to force a move as soon as possible, and for any of the Champions League clubs, the chance to sign a young England International for relative peanuts was never going to be passed up. So all the bollocks about this being his club, staying here for years, and leading us into the new season as captain was just utter lies. And I don't like liars.
We've got shot of loads though bent, given , Weimann, lowton, Sylla, Delph, Benteke .Aside to Gueye and Amarvi joining (good news), I now want some assurances from fox / Lerner that sherwood will get the proceeds of the 2 sales (net £36m say) plus with all this TV money Lerner needs to commit another min of £25m , so sherwood has about £60m to rebuild . We need at least 4 or 5 quality players in the door sharpish .
We will not be spending £60m this summer. Unless every single one of the Lambert disaster signings leave it would blow the wage bill sky high again.
I just don't think the statements make him worse than a player who doesn't make a statement because he can't wait to get out of the door.
You don't think someone who says they're staying at the club, looking forward to the new season, not bailing out (paraphrasing), becomes captain, gets aq signing on fee and new wages from jan - July and then goes for a paltry fee is not worse than a player who simply just says nothing then goes?
Well I do. I see him as duplicitous a fucker as Barry.
Only because we all want to believe that he didn't mean what he said at the time. There isn't a person in the world who has never changed his or her mind at some point. It's annoying, we thought he was going to buck a trend and duplicitous he may be, but he has made a logical decision over an emotional one in the end.
Nobody can blame any player for moving on for the chance to win things and treble their salary, I'd do exactly the same, however it's the litany of lies that makes this so much worse. The only reason for inserting the £8m clause was to force a move as soon as possible, and for any of the Champions League clubs, the chance to sign a young England International for relative peanuts was never going to be passed up. So all the bollocks about this being his club, staying here for years, and leading us into the new season as captain was just utter lies. And I don't like liars.
Lies or just emotional statements? The definition of a lie is a deliberate mistruth, do we really believe that Delph released that statement while he still had the intention of pissing off five days later. He changed his mind and has come out looking stupid but he was genuinely torn over whether to stay or not, that's all. I do believe this was a very hard decision for him and that's why it ended up being such a saga.
We've got shot of loads though bent, given , Weimann, lowton, Sylla, Delph, Benteke .Aside to Gueye and Amarvi joining (good news), I now want some assurances from fox / Lerner that sherwood will get the proceeds of the 2 sales (net £36m say) plus with all this TV money Lerner needs to commit another min of £25m , so sherwood has about £60m to rebuild . We need at least 4 or 5 quality players in the door sharpish .
We will not be spending £60m this summer. Unless every single one of the Lambert disaster signings leave it would blow the wage bill sky high again.
I just don't think the statements make him worse than a player who doesn't make a statement because he can't wait to get out of the door.
You don't think someone who says they're staying at the club, looking forward to the new season, not bailing out (paraphrasing), becomes captain, gets aq signing on fee and new wages from jan - July and then goes for a paltry fee is not worse than a player who simply just says nothing then goes?
Well I do. I see him as duplicitous a fucker as Barry.
Only because we all want to believe that he didn't mean what he said at the time. There isn't a person in the world who has never changed his or her mind at some point. It's annoying, we thought he was going to buck a trend and duplicitous he may be, but he has made a logical decision over an emotional one in the end.
Nobody can blame any player for moving on for the chance to win things and treble their salary, I'd do exactly the same, however it's the litany of lies that makes this so much worse. The only reason for inserting the £8m clause was to force a move as soon as possible, and for any of the Champions League clubs, the chance to sign a young England International for relative peanuts was never going to be passed up. So all the bollocks about this being his club, staying here for years, and leading us into the new season as captain was just utter lies. And I don't like liars.
Lies or just emotional statements? The definition of a lie is a deliberate mistruth, do we really believe that Delph released that statement while he still had the intention of pissing off five days later. He changed his mind and has come out looking stupid but he was genuinely torn over whether to stay or not, that's all. I do believe this was a very hard decision for him and that's why it ended up being such a saga.
Must have been tough decision for the poor twat, whether or not to fuck the Villa fans over twice in a week. Clearly couldn't give a shit.Fuck him, I don't give a shit about him now, hope injury dogs the rest of his career
I just don't think the statements make him worse than a player who doesn't make a statement because he can't wait to get out of the door.
You don't think someone who says they're staying at the club, looking forward to the new season, not bailing out (paraphrasing), becomes captain, gets aq signing on fee and new wages from jan - July and then goes for a paltry fee is not worse than a player who simply just says nothing then goes?
Well I do. I see him as duplicitous a fucker as Barry.
Only because we all want to believe that he didn't mean what he said at the time. There isn't a person in the world who has never changed his or her mind at some point. It's annoying, we thought he was going to buck a trend and duplicitous he may be, but he has made a logical decision over an emotional one in the end.
Nobody can blame any player for moving on for the chance to win things and treble their salary, I'd do exactly the same, however it's the litany of lies that makes this so much worse. The only reason for inserting the £8m clause was to force a move as soon as possible, and for any of the Champions League clubs, the chance to sign a young England International for relative peanuts was never going to be passed up. So all the bollocks about this being his club, staying here for years, and leading us into the new season as captain was just utter lies. And I don't like liars.
Lies or just emotional statements? The definition of a lie is a deliberate mistruth, do we really believe that Delph released that statement while he still had the intention of pissing off five days later. He changed his mind and has come out looking stupid but he was genuinely torn over whether to stay or not, that's all. I do believe this was a very hard decision for him and that's why it ended up being such a saga.
I just don't think the statements make him worse than a player who doesn't make a statement because he can't wait to get out of the door.Once again his statement is full of lies and duplicitous bollox. He really should shut up the wanker.
Not only was Steve Hodge a better man than Fabian Delph, he was also a better footballer and a greater loss.
Now there's a sentence I thought I'd never write.
Not only was Steve Hodge a better man than Fabian Delph, he was also a better footballer and a greater loss.
Now there's a sentence I thought I'd never write.
Better players? I can't judge because I am too young that but was he heck a better man.
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Like I said it my first post, I expected to be alone! I am sure he regrets speaking last weekend before he had resolved the internal conflicts (and let's not forget he has a massive life event going on at the moment as well) because it has made him look like an idiot and will draw a lot of criticism, as well as making his early days at Shitty even more greatly pressured. He just seems guilty of struggling to make a decision to me, unlike previous players who have gone to the papers to force moves, stopped playing in actual matches or just packed up their trumpets before they have even signed. Those are all worse for me.
But whatever, zero goals, three assists is not exactly impossible to replace. Great player, especially for where we are now but miles away from being irreplaceable, unlike Benteke.
Not only was Steve Hodge a better man than Fabian Delph, he was also a better footballer and a greater loss.
Now there's a sentence I thought I'd never write.
I remain pissed off at the massive loyalty statement when he had such a low release clause, but although the dragging it out for a week has made it FEEL worse, I don't think it is worse. The damage was done in January, not in the last week. The last week is merely a fiasco, not the real crime,
The last week's shenanigans is coming over to me as a player who cares a bit too much what people think of him. Last week he didn't want us to think he was a scumbag and stayed, then the whole media went into a spin about him being a player with no bottle, not prepared to fight for his place, too much of a coward to test himself at a higher level, a lazy player who is happy in his comfort zone. I think we were angry at the unfairness of those statements about him, so I guess they would have stung him too. As the week wore on, he was damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.
The phrase that came into my head last night as I was dropping of to sleep was 'Better to regret something you have done than something you haven't done' - and I think his final decision landed somewhere there. When I think of it logically, the last week is the bit where he hesitated to go, rather than had his bags packed ready, I am still angry with him, but less so, not more so, for the weird final week.
Like I said it my first post, I expected to be alone! I am sure he regrets speaking last weekend before he had resolved the internal conflicts (and let's not forget he has a massive life event going on at the moment as well) because it has made him look like an idiot and will draw a lot of criticism, as well as making his early days at Shitty even more greatly pressured. He just seems guilty of struggling to make a decision to me, unlike previous players who have gone to the papers to force moves, stopped playing in actual matches or just packed up their trumpets before they have even signed. Those are all worse for me.
But whatever, zero goals, three assists is not exactly impossible to replace. Great player, especially for where we are now but miles away from being irreplaceable, unlike Benteke.
I'd give up mate, your banging your head against a brick wall
I don't disagree with some of your thoughts, but there are to manny haters now, it makes people feel better if they can hate someone for there own personal disappointments it's one of the foundation bricks in human behaviour
Delph has covered himself in a bucket load of shit from which he will never recover
I'm also not ecstatic about Micah Richards part in this as well.
I respect your views Amfy and Olof's, but I think you're both completely wrong. Last week's statement, plus his statement on joining Citeh just highlight what a duplicitous snake he is.
I don't disagree with some of your thoughts, but there are to manny haters now, it makes people feel better if they can hate someone for there own personal disappointments it's one of the foundation bricks in human behaviourjohn e I speak for the whole humanity in hating him ;) I bet you true Mancity fans don't much like him either! No proper football fan likes a lying toad of a wanker who professes shit out of his mouth.
Delph posted a photo of him in City colours with the title "God is Good" on instagram.It's amusing.
He's getting torn apart in the comments.
Delph posted a photo of him in City colours with the title "God is Good" on instagram.
He's getting torn apart in the comments.
Delph posted a photo of him in City colours with the title "God is Good" on instagram.It's amusing.
He's getting torn apart in the comments.
Delph posted a photo of him in City colours with the title "God is Good" on instagram.It's amusing.
He's getting torn apart in the comments.
Some robust expressions of opinion there. God is good...... Yatwat.....
I don't disagree with some of your thoughts, but there are to manny haters now, it makes people feel better if they can hate someone for there own personal disappointments it's one of the foundation bricks in human behaviour
A change in username me thinks.
I remain pissed off at the massive loyalty statement when he had such a low release clause, but although the dragging it out for a week has made it FEEL worse, I don't think it is worse. The damage was done in January, not in the last week. The last week is merely a fiasco, not the real crime,Very fair comments, Amfy.
The last week's shenanigans is coming over to me as a player who cares a bit too much what people think of him. Last week he didn't want us to think he was a scumbag and stayed, then the whole media went into a spin about him being a player with no bottle, not prepared to fight for his place, too much of a coward to test himself at a higher level, a lazy player who is happy in his comfort zone. I think we were angry at the unfairness of those statements about him, so I guess they would have stung him too. As the week wore on, he was damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.
The phrase that came into my head last night as I was dropping of to sleep was 'Better to regret something you have done than something you haven't done' - and I think his final decision landed somewhere there. When I think of it logically, the last week is the bit where he hesitated to go, rather than had his bags packed ready, I am still angry with him, but less so, not more so, for the weird final week.
I remain pissed off at the massive loyalty statement when he had such a low release clause, but although the dragging it out for a week has made it FEEL worse, I don't think it is worse. The damage was done in January, not in the last week. The last week is merely a fiasco, not the real crime,Very fair comments, Amfy.
The last week's shenanigans is coming over to me as a player who cares a bit too much what people think of him. Last week he didn't want us to think he was a scumbag and stayed, then the whole media went into a spin about him being a player with no bottle, not prepared to fight for his place, too much of a coward to test himself at a higher level, a lazy player who is happy in his comfort zone. I think we were angry at the unfairness of those statements about him, so I guess they would have stung him too. As the week wore on, he was damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.
The phrase that came into my head last night as I was dropping of to sleep was 'Better to regret something you have done than something you haven't done' - and I think his final decision landed somewhere there. When I think of it logically, the last week is the bit where he hesitated to go, rather than had his bags packed ready, I am still angry with him, but less so, not more so, for the weird final week.
And I'd add: although he has certainly not covered himself in glory - I, for one, believed in the sentiment he expressed last week and in January - he still might have not signed in January and left without any return to Villa.
Time to move on, bring in strength in depth into the squad and substantially improve on last season's league record.
A change in username me thinks.
EVERYBODY! OVER HERE! HOLD HIM DOWN AND KICK THE CRAP OUT OF HIM.
Anyway, enough ranting and swearing about this. Onto something that really matters... Like, how many glasses of wine do I need to lovingly ply my missus with until she gives in tonight?
Not only was Steve Hodge a better man than Fabian Delph, he was also a better footballer and a greater loss.
Now there's a sentence I thought I'd never write.
That's true. I think what was forgotten about Hodge over the years is that he was actually a bloody good player, and far better than Delph (in my opinion). The only worry is that Hodge left a sinking ship. I just hope history doesn't repeat itself this time around.
Open that chequebook, Lerner.
Arsenal will be hoping Citeh will play Delph against them this season so their players can run past him like he wasn't there. Kinda like the FA Cup. Delph and the rest of our team were shown up for what they are that day. Shit themselves when they realised they were boys against men. Citeh have a goodish squad player on their hands. But don't expect him to step up to the plate on the big occasion.Sadly it appears we played that final and the spine of the team possibly all knew it was their last game at the club (& played like they couldn't give a fuck) - given vlaar Delph benteke
Him and and his teammate Sterling embody so much of what is wrong with English players playing Premier League football.Supporting England at euro2016 will now be nigh on impossible if them 2 are starting games
Arsenal will be hoping Citeh will play Delph against them this season so their players can run past him like he wasn't there. Kinda like the FA Cup. Delph and the rest of our team were shown up for what they are that day. Shit themselves when they realised they were boys against men. Citeh have a goodish squad player on their hands. But don't expect him to step up to the plate on the big occasion.Sadly it appears we played that final and the spine of the team possibly all knew it was their last game at the club (& played like they couldn't give a fuck) - given vlaar Delph benteke
Playing catch up, so I know that this is a relatively old post, but really? Professional players with a chance to win an FA Cup winners medal played with no interest because they wouldn't be here in August?
Even for you that's a pretty impressive stretch.
Delph posted a photo of him in City colours with the title "God is Good" on instagram.
He's getting torn apart in the comments.
That's the point yes. 5 of that starting XI who gave one of the limpest ever cup final appearances in the history of the FA Cup are all out of the club now.Arsenal will be hoping Citeh will play Delph against them this season so their players can run past him like he wasn't there. Kinda like the FA Cup. Delph and the rest of our team were shown up for what they are that day. Shit themselves when they realised they were boys against men. Citeh have a goodish squad player on their hands. But don't expect him to step up to the plate on the big occasion.Sadly it appears we played that final and the spine of the team possibly all knew it was their last game at the club (& played like they couldn't give a fuck) - given vlaar Delph benteke
Playing catch up, so I know that this is a relatively old post, but really? Professional players with a chance to win an FA Cup winners medal played with no interest because they wouldn't be here in August?
Even for you that's a pretty impressive stretch.
I wouldn't say they took the pitch with that mindset, but once the game was going away from them one or two took on the appearance of not trying too hard, and maybe in the back of their mind maybe that dark thought of "fuck it, I'm off anyway" crept in.
Arsenal will be hoping Citeh will play Delph against them this season so their players can run past him like he wasn't there. Kinda like the FA Cup. Delph and the rest of our team were shown up for what they are that day. Shit themselves when they realised they were boys against men. Citeh have a goodish squad player on their hands. But don't expect him to step up to the plate on the big occasion.Sadly it appears we played that final and the spine of the team possibly all knew it was their last game at the club (& played like they couldn't give a fuck) - given vlaar Delph benteke
Playing catch up, so I know that this is a relatively old post, but really? Professional players with a chance to win an FA Cup winners medal played with no interest because they wouldn't be here in August?
Even for you that's a pretty impressive stretch.
I wouldn't say they took the pitch with that mindset, but once the game was going away from them one or two took on the appearance of not trying too hard, and maybe in the back of their mind maybe that dark thought of "fuck it, I'm off anyway" crept in.
That's the point yes. 5 of that starting XI who gave one of the limpest ever cup final appearances in the history of the FA Cup are all out of the club now.Arsenal will be hoping Citeh will play Delph against them this season so their players can run past him like he wasn't there. Kinda like the FA Cup. Delph and the rest of our team were shown up for what they are that day. Shit themselves when they realised they were boys against men. Citeh have a goodish squad player on their hands. But don't expect him to step up to the plate on the big occasion.Sadly it appears we played that final and the spine of the team possibly all knew it was their last game at the club (& played like they couldn't give a fuck) - given vlaar Delph benteke
Playing catch up, so I know that this is a relatively old post, but really? Professional players with a chance to win an FA Cup winners medal played with no interest because they wouldn't be here in August?
Even for you that's a pretty impressive stretch.
I wouldn't say they took the pitch with that mindset, but once the game was going away from them one or two took on the appearance of not trying too hard, and maybe in the back of their mind maybe that dark thought of "fuck it, I'm off anyway" crept in.
Why is this thread still open?
“Leaving Aston Villa Football Club is the hardest decision I’ve ever had to make,” Delph said. “I’ve had some amazing times and made some great friends during my time at the club and I’ll always be thankful to them for giving me the opportunity to play in the Premier League.
“As has been widely reported I initially turned down the opportunity to join Manchester City. That decision was purely down to the love I have for Aston Villa and its great supporters.Yes love that you very impressively confirmed by signing a contract in January doubling your wages and insisting on a next to nothing release fee clause...THIS IS NOT LOVE YOU WANKER.
“When I was made captain of Villa it was a huge honour for me and I took the responsibility incredibly seriously. I signed my new contract last season with the view of staying at the club for the duration of the deal and never with the intention to leave a year later.This is fucking incredible. What moron on this earth has an intention to stay at a club for duration of a 5 year deal but insist on a very low release fee? and of yes leave twice within a week...
I owe it to myself to take the challenge of playing for one of the biggest clubs in the world in Manchester City.
“I’ve experienced some incredible low times in my career with injuries and at one point even questioned whether I would even return to Premiership level. Despite that, I’ve always been 100% committed to improving my game and developing as a player and a person.Yes again we stood by you. However now you are safe as there is very little chance of getting injured sitting on those nice Recaro seats and it will develop your arse no end!
“As a kid watching the game on TV and then as a young footballer you dream about testing yourself against the best in the world, to compete for major trophies and to play in the Champions League. I’ve proved that I can play at the very top level with England and believe I owe it to myself to take the challenge of playing for one of the biggest clubs in the world in Manchester City.Richest not biggest and never will be. You played for a class club now you are at Greedistan. Just count your money and shut the fuck up.
“I have been immensely proud to captain such a great club and want to thank everyone at Aston Villa - most importantly the fans - for the amazing support they have shown me during my time there.Just fuck off you spineless disloyal wanker.
“I am now excited for the future with Manchester City and helping the club to succeed in the coming season and beyond.”I hope you rot in hell of city reserves and than play for Bolton in 3 years time and than back at Leeds in League one to express your true loyalty.
Not biggest. Richest.Exactly. Modern football confuses the definition of club stature, success and wealth especially in the media...the simple fact that having a mega-rich owner generally enables a club to buy players and trophies means these definitions are becoming one of the same.
Not biggest. Richest.Exactly. Modern football confuses the definition of club stature, success and wealth especially in the media...the simple fact that having a mega-rich owner generally enables a club to buy players and trophies means these definitions are becoming one of the same.
There is going to be some atmosphere on 7th November - I wonder if City might even withdraw the lying twat from their squad for that game?He will either be left out totally or they will go full 180 and start him. The sheer arrogance of the club suggests the latter to me .
Quote“As a kid watching the game on TV and then as a young footballer you dream about testing yourself against the best in the world, to compete for major trophies and to play in the Champions League. I’ve proved that I can play at the very top level with England and believe I owe it to myself to take the challenge of playing for one of the biggest clubs in the world in Manchester City.Richest not biggest and never will be. You played for a class club now you are at Greedistan. Just count your money and shut the fuck up.
There is going to be some atmosphere on 7th November - I wonder if City might even withdraw the lying twat from their squad for that game?He will either be left out totally or they will go full 180 and start him. The sheer arrogance of the club suggests the latter to me .
He'll probably be sat on their bench for most of the game. He'll probably get 5 minutes at the end to walk on and get the wankers from 40,000 fans.There is going to be some atmosphere on 7th November - I wonder if City might even withdraw the lying twat from their squad for that game?He will either be left out totally or they will go full 180 and start him. The sheer arrogance of the club suggests the latter to me .
He could have gone for nothing.
Perhaps we told him we'd already bought his replacement so he could do one!
Patrick Roberts going to Citeh from Fulham for £11 million sums up how much the loyal Delph mugged us off.
Patrick Roberts going to Citeh from Fulham for £11 million sums up how much the loyal Delph mugged us off.
Who the bleeding hell's Patrick Roberts?
Patrick Roberts going to Citeh from Fulham for £11 million sums up how much the loyal Delph mugged us off.He didn't. He gave us £8m when he didn't need to sign a new contract. Villa were complicit in agreeing the buyout.
Patrick Roberts going to Citeh from Fulham for £11 million sums up how much the loyal Delph mugged us off.He didn't. He gave us £8m when he didn't need to sign a new contract. Villa were complicit in agreeing the buyout.
Delph is guilty of making false statements about his intentions and commitments - in January and again last Saturday. He's an arse for shooting his mouth off so insincerely.
We're well rid of him and should just move on.
Sure, and he could still have left for nothing and got a great signing-on fee.Patrick Roberts going to Citeh from Fulham for £11 million sums up how much the loyal Delph mugged us off.He didn't. He gave us £8m when he didn't need to sign a new contract. Villa were complicit in agreeing the buyout.
Delph is guilty of making false statements about his intentions and commitments - in January and again last Saturday. He's an arse for shooting his mouth off so insincerely.
We're well rid of him and should just move on.
I love the idea that Delph gave us something for nothing. I'm pretty sure he got a significant wage increase and signing fee in exchange for a release clause that wouldn't trouble any top half club.
Complicit or not it doesn't excuse Delph. I'm 100% certain the club didn't put that clause in the contract. They were basically over the barrel.Root cause is we needed Delph more than he needed us hence the stupid release clause.
Complicit or not it doesn't excuse Delph. I'm 100% certain the club didn't put that clause in the contract. They were basically over the barrel.
Complicit or not it doesn't excuse Delph. I'm 100% certain the club didn't put that clause in the contract. They were basically over the barrel.
It looks very much like the club and Delph were making sure he didn't leave for nothing, but basically, an 8m release fee means the club can't stop him moving wherever he wants to go, it is so low.
That's why I think the club were naive to make such a big hoo-haa. Had we known about that clause at that price when he signed his new contract, how do we think our reaction would have been different?
The club were right to agree to the deal. He'd have left anyway had they not.
What they shouldn't have done was act as if it meant he was going to stay. It clearly wasn't
Why is this thread still open?Because it's a subject that Villa fans might want to discuss?
By the time that video had gone out (pre game v Bournemouth) , fox was already courting sherwood (spotted at B6 together at either the palace 0-0 or the sunderland 0-0 over Xmas ) .
Not sure that's any relevance other than to say , the club was very unstable, CEO meeting potential new manager whilst incumbent and team was floundering spectacularly .
It's just a catalogue of bad decisions for years is all I can see.
1000% agree with this.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/andy-dunn-column-aston-villa-6093368
In terms of chronology it's relevant. The time of the deal, the place we were in as a club. The thinking of the CEO, The crime scene as it were.By the time that video had gone out (pre game v Bournemouth) , fox was already courting sherwood (spotted at B6 together at either the palace 0-0 or the sunderland 0-0 over Xmas ) .
Not sure that's any relevance other than to say , the club was very unstable, CEO meeting potential new manager whilst incumbent and team was floundering spectacularly .
It's just a catalogue of bad decisions for years is all I can see.
What a total non sequitur.
Not sure that's any relevance other than to say , the club was very unstable, CEO meeting potential new manager whilst incumbent and team was floundering spectacularly .
Not sure that's any relevance other than to say , the club was very unstable, CEO meeting potential new manager whilst incumbent and team was floundering spectacularly .
Just to pick a bit of your post, maybe make "Not sure that's any relevance" your signature just to save time in future?
Article is spot on.1000% agree with this.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/andy-dunn-column-aston-villa-6093368
He's right.
On his opinions about Delph and Villa, probably.1000% agree with this.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/andy-dunn-column-aston-villa-6093368
He's right.
Article is spot on.1000% agree with this.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/andy-dunn-column-aston-villa-6093368
He's right.
We acted like a weak sheep allowing this .
Ironically its spot on relevant. The club has been a joke for a while . Our CEO has had a troubled time so far, partly in his own failings .Not sure that's any relevance other than to say , the club was very unstable, CEO meeting potential new manager whilst incumbent and team was floundering spectacularly .
Just to pick a bit of your post, maybe make "Not sure that's any relevance" your signature just to save time in future?
With such a limp sell on clause I'd have sent him packing.Article is spot on.1000% agree with this.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/andy-dunn-column-aston-villa-6093368
He's right.
We acted like a weak sheep allowing this .
Tell us what we should have done then.
With such a limp sell on clause I'd have sent him packing.Article is spot on.1000% agree with this.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/andy-dunn-column-aston-villa-6093368
He's right.
We acted like a weak sheep allowing this .
Tell us what we should have done then.
"I'd have written off around seven million pounds just to prove a point".With such a limp sell on clause I'd have sent him packing.Article is spot on.1000% agree with this.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/andy-dunn-column-aston-villa-6093368
He's right.
We acted like a weak sheep allowing this .
Tell us what we should have done then.
If your brain can stretch far enough, how much brand damage do you think we have taken this last 72 hours ? Scope being potential incoming starlets ? Outgoings, ST sales ."I'd have written off around seven million pounds just to prove a point".With such a limp sell on clause I'd have sent him packing.Article is spot on.1000% agree with this.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/andy-dunn-column-aston-villa-6093368
He's right.
We acted like a weak sheep allowing this .
Tell us what we should have done then.
I take it you're not in any job where you control the finances?
If your brain can stretch far enough, how much brand damage do you think we have taken this last 72 hours ? Scope being potential incoming starlets ? Outgoings, ST sales ."I'd have written off around seven million pounds just to prove a point".With such a limp sell on clause I'd have sent him packing.Article is spot on.1000% agree with this.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/andy-dunn-column-aston-villa-6093368
He's right.
We acted like a weak sheep allowing this .
Tell us what we should have done then.
I take it you're not in any job where you control the finances?
This would have had a bit more sway had we not just signed a highly-rated young player for around £10m. Presumably the "brand" is holding up alright so that this still happened.If your brain can stretch far enough, how much brand damage do you think we have taken this last 72 hours ? Scope being potential incoming starlets ? Outgoings, ST sales ."I'd have written off around seven million pounds just to prove a point".With such a limp sell on clause I'd have sent him packing.Article is spot on.1000% agree with this.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/andy-dunn-column-aston-villa-6093368
He's right.
We acted like a weak sheep allowing this .
Tell us what we should have done then.
I take it you're not in any job where you control the finances?
With such a limp sell on clause I'd have sent him packing.Article is spot on.1000% agree with this.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/andy-dunn-column-aston-villa-6093368
He's right.
We acted like a weak sheep allowing this .
Tell us what we should have done then.
I can't agree with the article at all. It's self evident that Delphs intention was always to walk away. £8 million is likely more than we'd have got in January and we needed all then old players we had. You can criticse the club for buying into the lie with the fanfare, but you can't criticse Fox form salvaging what we could from a bad hand. The horse had bolted, financially we did as well as we could.And the broadcast of the video to 20 odd thousand freezing villa fans ?
If your brain can stretch far enough, how much brand damage do you think we have taken this last 72 hours ? Scope being potential incoming starlets ? Outgoings, ST sales ."I'd have written off around seven million pounds just to prove a point".With such a limp sell on clause I'd have sent him packing.Article is spot on.1000% agree with this.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/andy-dunn-column-aston-villa-6093368
He's right.
We acted like a weak sheep allowing this .
Tell us what we should have done then.
I take it you're not in any job where you control the finances?
If your brain can stretch far enough, how much brand damage do you think we have taken this last 72 hours ? Scope being potential incoming starlets ? Outgoings, ST sales ."I'd have written off around seven million pounds just to prove a point".With such a limp sell on clause I'd have sent him packing.Article is spot on.1000% agree with this.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/andy-dunn-column-aston-villa-6093368
He's right.
We acted like a weak sheep allowing this .
Tell us what we should have done then.
I take it you're not in any job where you control the finances?
That's Exactly the point.If your brain can stretch far enough, how much brand damage do you think we have taken this last 72 hours ? Scope being potential incoming starlets ? Outgoings, ST sales ."I'd have written off around seven million pounds just to prove a point".With such a limp sell on clause I'd have sent him packing.Article is spot on.1000% agree with this.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/andy-dunn-column-aston-villa-6093368
He's right.
We acted like a weak sheep allowing this .
Tell us what we should have done then.
I take it you're not in any job where you control the finances?
My guess is 'very little to zero'. I flicked through the papers today and they're hardly reporting it, other than saying Delph has joined Man City. Very little about villa. This was admittedly the London versions of the papers, and I don't doubt it is different in Birmingham, but to most people the villa part is a non-story.
Brand damage..............please its a football clubThe headlines I've seen are "VILLA CAPTAIN JOINS MAN CITY"
You support the club............. if players want to leave let them, its "brand Delph" that's damaged
Brand damage..............please its a football clubThe headlines I've seen are "VILLA CAPTAIN JOINS MAN CITY"
You support the club............. if players want to leave let them, its "brand Delph" that's damaged
With no real reaction from the cub.
If we were a PLC our share price would be on the floor
Brand damage..............please its a football clubThe headlines I've seen are "VILLA CAPTAIN JOINS MAN CITY"
You support the club............. if players want to leave let them, its "brand Delph" that's damaged
With no real reaction from the cub.
If we were a PLC our share price would be on the floor
Fair enough, but that money has pretty much paid for Gueye so its not completely to be sniffed at.
If your brain can stretch far enough, how much brand damage do you think we have taken this last 72 hours ? Scope being potential incoming starlets ? Outgoings, ST sales ."I'd have written off around seven million pounds just to prove a point".With such a limp sell on clause I'd have sent him packing.Article is spot on.1000% agree with this.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/andy-dunn-column-aston-villa-6093368
He's right.
We acted like a weak sheep allowing this .
Tell us what we should have done then.
I take it you're not in any job where you control the finances?
My guess is 'very little to zero'. I flicked through the papers today and they're hardly reporting it, other than saying Delph has joined Man City. Very little about villa. This was admittedly the London versions of the papers, and I don't doubt it is different in Birmingham, but to most people the villa part is a non-story.
The point is the exact opposite of what you said the point was 15 minutes ago?That's Exactly the point.If your brain can stretch far enough, how much brand damage do you think we have taken this last 72 hours ? Scope being potential incoming starlets ? Outgoings, ST sales ."I'd have written off around seven million pounds just to prove a point".With such a limp sell on clause I'd have sent him packing.Article is spot on.1000% agree with this.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/andy-dunn-column-aston-villa-6093368
He's right.
We acted like a weak sheep allowing this .
Tell us what we should have done then.
I take it you're not in any job where you control the finances?
My guess is 'very little to zero'. I flicked through the papers today and they're hardly reporting it, other than saying Delph has joined Man City. Very little about villa. This was admittedly the London versions of the papers, and I don't doubt it is different in Birmingham, but to most people the villa part is a non-story.
Anyone else on H&V think that to Delph, being a footballer is just a job? And Aston Villa are just an employer? And Man City are just another employer offering to double his salary?
However much you love Villa and whatever importance you place on Delph's words of loyalty, he doesn't know you and he doesn't give a shit what you think about his career moves anymore than you give a shit what he thinks about the latest job you took (or didn't take).
There is a monumental lack of perspective here.
1000% agree with this.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/andy-dunn-column-aston-villa-6093368
If your brain can stretch far enough, how much brand damage do you think we have taken this last 72 hours ? Scope being potential incoming starlets ? Outgoings, ST sales ."I'd have written off around seven million pounds just to prove a point".With such a limp sell on clause I'd have sent him packing.Article is spot on.1000% agree with this.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/andy-dunn-column-aston-villa-6093368
He's right.
We acted like a weak sheep allowing this .
Tell us what we should have done then.
I take it you're not in any job where you control the finances?
My guess is 'very little to zero'. I flicked through the papers today and they're hardly reporting it, other than saying Delph has joined Man City. Very little about villa. This was admittedly the London versions of the papers, and I don't doubt it is different in Birmingham, but to most people the villa part is a non-story.
They've been talking about it all day on national radio and last night as well, and newspaper articles have been coming thick and fast since Delph's treachery so to make out the Villa part has barely been mention is just cobblers I'm afraid.
If your brain can stretch far enough, how much brand damage do you think we have taken this last 72 hours ? Scope being potential incoming starlets ? Outgoings, ST sales ."I'd have written off around seven million pounds just to prove a point".With such a limp sell on clause I'd have sent him packing.Article is spot on.1000% agree with this.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/andy-dunn-column-aston-villa-6093368
He's right.
We acted like a weak sheep allowing this .
Tell us what we should have done then.
I take it you're not in any job where you control the finances?
My guess is 'very little to zero'. I flicked through the papers today and they're hardly reporting it, other than saying Delph has joined Man City. Very little about villa. This was admittedly the London versions of the papers, and I don't doubt it is different in Birmingham, but to most people the villa part is a non-story.
They've been talking about it all day on national radio and last night as well, and newspaper articles have been coming thick and fast since Delph's treachery so to make out the Villa part has barely been mention is just cobblers I'm afraid.
I can't agree with the article at all. It's self evident that Delphs intention was always to walk away. £8 million is likely more than we'd have got in January and we needed all then old players we had. You can criticse the club for buying into the lie with the fanfare, but you can't criticse Fox form salvaging what we could from a bad hand. The horse had bolted, financially we did as well as we could.And the broadcast of the video to 20 odd thousand freezing villa fans ?
I do think our brand has been further damaged this last week .
The national and indeed global media just see the headline .I do think our brand has been further damaged this last week .
How, Delph has made himself look a massive penis, but the club got 8 million for him rather than him going on a free and the club have stuck to the released clause and not been bullied regarding Benteke. Instead of moaning maybe see Sherwood signed a potential star today
The national and indeed global media just see the headline .I do think our brand has been further damaged this last week .
How, Delph has made himself look a massive penis, but the club got 8 million for him rather than him going on a free and the club have stuck to the released clause and not been bullied regarding Benteke. Instead of moaning maybe see Sherwood signed a potential star today
The national and indeed global media just see the headline .I do think our brand has been further damaged this last week .
How, Delph has made himself look a massive penis, but the club got 8 million for him rather than him going on a free and the club have stuck to the released clause and not been bullied regarding Benteke. Instead of moaning maybe see Sherwood signed a potential star today
The national and indeed global media just see the headline .I do think our brand has been further damaged this last week .
How, Delph has made himself look a massive penis, but the club got 8 million for him rather than him going on a free and the club have stuck to the released clause and not been bullied regarding Benteke. Instead of moaning maybe see Sherwood signed a potential star today
That's quite some claim, when you think about the contenders for that award.The national and indeed global media just see the headline .I do think our brand has been further damaged this last week .
How, Delph has made himself look a massive penis, but the club got 8 million for him rather than him going on a free and the club have stuck to the released clause and not been bullied regarding Benteke. Instead of moaning maybe see Sherwood signed a potential star today
That is by far the stupidest thing that you've ever posted. Read it back and you'll see what I mean.
That's quite some claim, when you think about the contenders for that award.The national and indeed global media just see the headline .I do think our brand has been further damaged this last week .
How, Delph has made himself look a massive penis, but the club got 8 million for him rather than him going on a free and the club have stuck to the released clause and not been bullied regarding Benteke. Instead of moaning maybe see Sherwood signed a potential star today
That is by far the stupidest thing that you've ever posted. Read it back and you'll see what I mean.
Oh the irony . To the general punter its business as usual.The national and indeed global media just see the headline .I do think our brand has been further damaged this last week .
How, Delph has made himself look a massive penis, but the club got 8 million for him rather than him going on a free and the club have stuck to the released clause and not been bullied regarding Benteke. Instead of moaning maybe see Sherwood signed a potential star today
The media write the entire story, yet they only see the headline. Have a think about that for a second.
Oh the irony . To the general punter its business as usual.The national and indeed global media just see the headline .I do think our brand has been further damaged this last week .
How, Delph has made himself look a massive penis, but the club got 8 million for him rather than him going on a free and the club have stuck to the released clause and not been bullied regarding Benteke. Instead of moaning maybe see Sherwood signed a potential star today
The media write the entire story, yet they only see the headline. Have a think about that for a second.
Point being we lose our skipper again with no fight.
Oh the irony . To the general punter its business as usual.The national and indeed global media just see the headline .I do think our brand has been further damaged this last week .
How, Delph has made himself look a massive penis, but the club got 8 million for him rather than him going on a free and the club have stuck to the released clause and not been bullied regarding Benteke. Instead of moaning maybe see Sherwood signed a potential star today
The media write the entire story, yet they only see the headline. Have a think about that for a second.
Point being we lose our skipper again with no fight.
So Delphs baby ( as far as I know) hasn't been born hence the reason why he didn't fly out to Portugal but he's now on a flight to Australia to meet up with his team mates.Wow, if so that doesn't really come off in a positive way.
Not really covering himself with glory is he?
So Delphs baby ( as far as I know) hasn't been born hence the reason why he didn't fly out to Portugal but he's now on a flight to Australia to meet up with his team mates.
Not really covering himself with glory is he?
Wow, if so that doesn't really come off in a positive way.
So Delphs baby ( as far as I know) hasn't been born hence the reason why he didn't fly out to Portugal but he's now on a flight to Australia to meet up with his team mates.
Not really covering himself with glory is he?
Wow, if so that doesn't really come off in a positive way.
Yet another question mark over the man.
So Delphs baby ( as far as I know) hasn't been born hence the reason why he didn't fly out to Portugal but he's now on a flight to Australia to meet up with his team mates.
Not really covering himself with glory is he?
So Delphs baby ( as far as I know) hasn't been born hence the reason why he didn't fly out to Portugal but he's now on a flight to Australia to meet up with his team mates.
Not really covering himself with glory is he?
So he's basically Moses for the Instagram generation?So Delphs baby ( as far as I know) hasn't been born hence the reason why he didn't fly out to Portugal but he's now on a flight to Australia to meet up with his team mates.
Not really covering himself with glory is he?
God told the little shit he had to go
Oh the irony . To the general punter its business as usual.The national and indeed global media just see the headline .I do think our brand has been further damaged this last week .
How, Delph has made himself look a massive penis, but the club got 8 million for him rather than him going on a free and the club have stuck to the released clause and not been bullied regarding Benteke. Instead of moaning maybe see Sherwood signed a potential star today
The media write the entire story, yet they only see the headline. Have a think about that for a second.
Point being we lose our skipper again with no fight.
So he's basically Moses for the Instagram generation?So Delphs baby ( as far as I know) hasn't been born hence the reason why he didn't fly out to Portugal but he's now on a flight to Australia to meet up with his team mates.
Not really covering himself with glory is he?
God told the little shit he had to go
So Delphs baby ( as far as I know) hasn't been born hence the reason why he didn't fly out to Portugal but he's now on a flight to Australia to meet up with his team mates.Wow, if so that doesn't really come off in a positive way.
Not really covering himself with glory is he?
I appreciated the bloke signing a new contract in January, wasn't overly annoyed when I found out a release clause was involved and expected him to go.
So Delphs baby ( as far as I know) hasn't been born hence the reason why he didn't fly out to Portugal but he's now on a flight to Australia to meet up with his team mates.Yes that's what I thought when I heard earlier today that he has left for Australia. Once again a duplicitous wanker.
Not really covering himself with glory is he?
Bring back Greg Nash.
So Delphs baby ( as far as I know) hasn't been born hence the reason why he didn't fly out to Portugal but he's now on a flight to Australia to meet up with his team mates.Yes that's what I thought when I heard earlier today that he has left for Australia. Once again a duplicitous wanker.
Not really covering himself with glory is he?
Is he still plastered all over the club shops in the new kit?He's still promoting ST sales on the OS , as is Benteke
What we need is a Snopes for football players
With all City's money, I think they may struggle to get into the top 4 this season,
Chelsea and Arsenal look stronger to me, and the other Manchester have made the better signings so far, so the way I see it it's a 50/50 between Liverpool and City
Liverpool with Milner and Benteke if they settle in could be better this season
City also at times look disinterested, it's all a bit we have done it before and really don't look up for it in some games, I can see them struggling a bit
You would love that. Ten years of appeals from both sides filling the legal profession's coffers before sole's are hanging in free air!What we need is a Snopes for football players
What we need is the reintroduction of capital punishment for football players.
You would love that. Ten years of appeals from both sides filling the legal profession's coffers before sole's are hanging in free air!What we need is a Snopes for football players
What we need is the reintroduction of capital punishment for football players.
Bring back Greg Nash.
Absolutely!
And Coopers Injury-those pair were ridiculous!
Bring back Greg Nash.
Absolutely!
And Coopers Injury-those pair were ridiculous!
Coopers Injury is Sillihill or what have you.
Is he still plastered all over the club shops in the new kit?He's still promoting ST sales on the OS
Bring back Greg Nash.
Absolutely!
And Coopers Injury-those pair were ridiculous!
At the end of the day what could the club do. The power is with the players and their advisors. The club are not dealing with loyal employees so they will always be on a hiding to nothing. Football became like the 'city' a long time ago and will continue to be like that for the foreseeable future. The only people that could realistically change it are the fans but that won't happen because they will always turn up , so the real power is actually in our hands if collectively football fans decided to use it.
So Delphs baby ( as far as I know) hasn't been born hence the reason why he didn't fly out to Portugal but he's now on a flight to Australia to meet up with his team mates.Yes that's what I thought when I heard earlier today that he has left for Australia. Once again a duplicitous wanker.
Not really covering himself with glory is he?
So Delphs baby ( as far as I know) hasn't been born hence the reason why he didn't fly out to Portugal but he's now on a flight to Australia to meet up with his team mates.Yes that's what I thought when I heard earlier today that he has left for Australia. Once again a duplicitous wanker.
Not really covering himself with glory is he?
He was obviously 'advised' not to go on the trip to Portugal and came up with that particular excuse.
Bring back Greg Nash.
Absolutely!
And Coopers Injury-those pair were ridiculous!
Bring back Greg Nash.
Absolutely!
And Coopers Injury-those pair were ridiculous!
Coopers Injury is Sillihill or what have you.
Bring back Greg Nash.
Absolutely!
And Coopers Injury-those pair were ridiculous!
Coopers Injury is Sillihill or what have you.
NSFW
Fuck the weasel shitbag and that, but I think he's a bloody good player and he'll succeed up there.
Not sure why I watched it,but just looked at the video of Delph in the club shop with Mike Summerbee.
What a smug old carp Summerbee is. Probably wishful thinking but Delph's body language doesn't look good, he looks very uncomfortable. Snake fuck.
Not sure why I watched it,but just looked at the video of Delph in the club shop with Mike Summerbee.
What a smug old carp Summerbee is. Probably wishful thinking but Delph's body language doesn't look good, he looks very uncomfortable. Snake fuck.
I've been thinking something similar since he deserted. He hasn't looked as happy as I imagine he should. It's as if; despite all that's gone on, he knows he will end up a splinter cushion, albeit a rich one. Time will tell.
Not sure why I watched it,but just looked at the video of Delph in the club shop with Mike Summerbee.
What a smug old carp Summerbee is. Probably wishful thinking but Delph's body language doesn't look good, he looks very uncomfortable. Snake fuck.
I've been thinking something similar since he deserted. He hasn't looked as happy as I imagine he should. It's as if; despite all that's gone on, he knows he will end up a splinter cushion, albeit a rich one. Time will tell.
He's ashamed of himself.
Fuck the weasel shitbag and that, but I think he's a bloody good player and he'll succeed up there.
I honestly don't Lee. He isn't particularly good at one area of the game. I think if he plays regularly, Man City won't be finishing top 4.
Not sure why I watched it,but just looked at the video of Delph in the club shop with Mike Summerbee.
What a smug old carp Summerbee is. Probably wishful thinking but Delph's body language doesn't look good, he looks very uncomfortable. Snake fuck.
I've been thinking something similar since he deserted. He hasn't looked as happy as I imagine he should. It's as if; despite all that's gone on, he knows he will end up a splinter cushion, albeit a rich one. Time will tell.
He's ashamed of himself.
Delph isn't fit to lace the boots of either of the two central midfielders Yanited have signed, while he's nowhere near the quality Milner offers in the middle either. I'd be genuinely a little worried if I were Man City.
Delph isn't fit to lace the boots of either of the two central midfielders Yanited have signed, while he's nowhere near the quality Milner offers in the middle either. I'd be genuinely a little worried if I were Man City.
I just despise this man for the way he has made the Football club I love a laughing stock, Lied to the supporters, and dragged the integrity of British footballers to a whole new low, if any good comes of this sorry affair it is this - Fabian Delph - your name has now become a byword for treachery, regardless of what you achieve at the accursed Manchester's OTHER club, you will be remembered for this above all else, enjoy your money, enjoy the success Sheikh Mansoors money is buying at City AND ROT IN HELL.
I just despise this man for the way he has made the Football club I love a laughing stock, Lied to the supporters, and dragged the integrity of British footballers to a whole new low, if any good comes of this sorry affair it is this - Fabian Delph - your name has now become a byword for treachery, regardless of what you achieve at the accursed Manchester's OTHER club, you will be remembered for this above all else, enjoy your money, enjoy the success Sheikh Mansoors money is buying at City AND ROT IN HELL.
To be honest, I've largely forgotten him now.
I just despise this man for the way he has made the Football club I love a laughing stock, Lied to the supporters, and dragged the integrity of British footballers to a whole new low, if any good comes of this sorry affair it is this - Fabian Delph - your name has now become a byword for treachery, regardless of what you achieve at the accursed Manchester's OTHER club, you will be remembered for this above all else, enjoy your money, enjoy the success Sheikh Mansoors money is buying at City AND ROT IN HELL.
To be honest, I've largely forgotten him now.
Now that I've calmed down a little and in retrospect, I just think that he was advised very, very badly regarding the PR side of things.
I don't like we refer to his new team in the thread title as ''City''.
if that is true then it just goes to show how disconnected from reality these people really are.I just despise this man for the way he has made the Football club I love a laughing stock, Lied to the supporters, and dragged the integrity of British footballers to a whole new low, if any good comes of this sorry affair it is this - Fabian Delph - your name has now become a byword for treachery, regardless of what you achieve at the accursed Manchester's OTHER club, you will be remembered for this above all else, enjoy your money, enjoy the success Sheikh Mansoors money is buying at City AND ROT IN HELL.
To be honest, I've largely forgotten him now.
Now that I've calmed down a little and in retrospect, I just think that he was advised very, very badly regarding the PR side of things.
Fully agree with you both.I don't like we refer to his new team in the thread title as ''City''.
I agree. It's as though Manchester has taken ownership of the "City" and "United" football identities. As always, I blame the media.
Reports that Micah Richard will be the new captain, I'd have gone for Clarke personally but there you go.
Or Richard.
Reports that Micah Richard will be the new captain, I'd have gone for Clarke personally but there you go.
Delph has just been stretchered off. Shame.
Delph has just been stretchered off. Shame.
I don't normally revel in players getting injured, but I'll make an exception this time.
Hope it's something that keeps him out for the season.
Stretchered off with only a hamstring injury. That's very disappointing.
LOL
that long-haul flight back with his knackered hamstring will be fun for the prick.
The baby is probably being looked after by Stephen Ireland's grandmother.that long-haul flight back with his knackered hamstring will be fun for the prick.
If only he hadn't been lying about staying at home with his pregnant missus.
All 3 of Stephen Ireland's grandmothers have got the baby on a rota basis.The baby is probably being looked after by Stephen Ireland's grandmother.that long-haul flight back with his knackered hamstring will be fun for the prick.
If only he hadn't been lying about staying at home with his pregnant missus.
Absolutely horrific news.
I do hope he's back before November 7th.
Delph injured?
*Stupid Delph wink thing*
Delph injured?
*Stupid Delph wink thing*
The best I could do:
Made me chuckle (https://vine.co/v/egbx9tJUtZp)
Made me chuckle (https://vine.co/v/egbx9tJUtZp)
how long will he be out with a hamstring ?
how long will he be out with a hamstring ?
Just been confirmed he is out to 6 November....
how long will he be out with a hamstring ?
how long will he be out with a hamstring ?
Just been confirmed he is out to 6 November....
ok thanks, quite a long time then
how long will he be out with a hamstring ?
Just been confirmed he is out to 6 November....
ok thanks, quite a long time then
That was slightly tongue in cheek John...we play them on the 7th at VP
Delph injured?
*Stupid Delph wink thing*
The best I could do:
Too much?
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I don't wish injury on him. Boos yes but not an injury.Completely agree.......the poor lad has got an extra mouth to feed
I don't wish injury on him. Boos yes but not an injury.
I wish the four horsemen of the apocalypse on him.
Famine
Pestilence
And the two others
Quote from: aj2k77
Make one with one half of the pic Delph crumpled on the ground today and the other half with the Delph Karma wink.
I've moved on. I wish him no ill luck with injuries and the like. i hope for him its a not a serious one. Not fussed either way as he doesn't play for us.
Has nobody done the 'who knew snakes had hamstrings' line yet? Can't see it. Incredibly.Almost as incredible as the lack of "snakes on a plane" comments when he flew off to Australia to meet his new team mates leaving his pregnant wife at home.
This is bad news as the injury gives him perfect excuse to explain why he will not be playing week in week out. I would rather he was fit and just ignored.
I'd love him to get a career ending injury next. He deserves it.
This is bad news as the injury gives him perfect excuse to explain why he will not be playing week in week out. I would rather he was fit and just ignored.
However it might force Man City to put in a crazy bid for Pogba which would be disaster.
I'd love him to get a career ending injury next. He deserves it.
This is bad news as the injury gives him perfect excuse to explain why he will not be playing week in week out. I would rather he was fit and just ignored.
However it might force Man City to put in a crazy bid for Pogba which would be disaster.
I'd love him to get a career ending injury next. He deserves it.
No, he doesn't.
Interview with Delph in the Mail on Sunday. Basic jist is 'he owed it to his children to move'. No sign of him thinking it might be a good example to set his kids where you do what you say you are going to do.
Interview with Delph in the Mail on Sunday. Basic jist is 'he owed it to his children to move'. No sign of him thinking it might be a good example to set his kids where you do what you say you are going to do.
It's a bit of a stupid argument as well given that his were hardly going to go hungry on the money he was getting at Villa.
It's a hard life being a snake.
I know we've had players treat us like toilet roll in the past, Downing being a prime example but this guy absolutely takes the piss. This interview where he cites family being the driver behind a move to city is utter bullshit. There is no acceptance that what he did was wrong and rather than apologise and admit he made a mistake and handled it badly he just digs a bigger hole for himself. I hope he gets back fit for the Villa game he really deserves the worst reception ever given to a former player and he should receive a lifetime ban from Villa Park after he hangs up his boot.
I know we've had players treat us like toilet roll in the past, Downing being a prime example but this guy absolutely takes the piss. This interview where he cites family being the driver behind a move to city is utter bullshit. There is no acceptance that what he did was wrong and rather than apologise and admit he made a mistake and handled it badly he just digs a bigger hole for himself. I hope he gets back fit for the Villa game he really deserves the worst reception ever given to a former player and he should receive a lifetime ban from Villa Park after he hangs up his boot.
Abso-fucking-lutely. He just gets worse and worse, and using his family as an excuse is just him continuing to dig an even bigger hole. His family will never want for anything of course, but he'll have to explain to his kids in years to come why he gets such dog's abuse at Villa Park. I don't suppose he'll tell them it's because he's a lying, treacherous snake, but hopefully they'll get to know.
I know we've had players treat us like toilet roll in the past, Downing being a prime example but this guy absolutely takes the piss. This interview where he cites family being the driver behind a move to city is utter bullshit. There is no acceptance that what he did was wrong and rather than apologise and admit he made a mistake and handled it badly he just digs a bigger hole for himself. I hope he gets back fit for the Villa game he really deserves the worst reception ever given to a former player and he should receive a lifetime ban from Villa Park after he hangs up his boot.
Abso-fucking-lutely. He just gets worse and worse, and using his family as an excuse is just him continuing to dig an even bigger hole.
I know we've had players treat us like toilet roll in the past, Downing being a prime example but this guy absolutely takes the piss. This interview where he cites family being the driver behind a move to city is utter bullshit. There is no acceptance that what he did was wrong and rather than apologise and admit he made a mistake and handled it badly he just digs a bigger hole for himself. I hope he gets back fit for the Villa game he really deserves the worst reception ever given to a former player and he should receive a lifetime ban from Villa Park after he hangs up his boot.
Abso-fucking-lutely. He just gets worse and worse, and using his family as an excuse is just him continuing to dig an even bigger hole. His family will never want for anything of course, but he'll have to explain to his kids in years to come why he gets such dog's abuse at Villa Park. I don't suppose he'll tell them it's because he's a lying, treacherous snake, but hopefully they'll get to know.
Some of the comments on his Instagram were just awful but some were quite catchy!
'Fabian Delphs a wanker, he wears a wankers hat, he said that he was loyal, the lying fucking twat. There's still loyalty in football is what he fucking said, but all we want is Ciaran Clark to break his fucking leg!😂
Some of the comments on his Instagram were just awful but some were quite catchy!
'Fabian Delphs a wanker, he wears a wankers hat, he said that he was loyal, the lying fucking twat. There's still loyalty in football is what he fucking said, but all we want is Ciaran Clark to break his fucking leg!😂
We sang that at Walsall on Saturday, quite a lot!
He posted a picture on Instagram of his recovery in the Reptile Veterinarian College Surgery Manchester and the comments section was quite amusingly childish, with everybody posting pictures simply of snakes in response.
He posted a picture on Instagram of his recovery in the Reptile Veterinarian College Surgery Manchester and the comments section was quite amusingly childish, with everybody posting pictures simply of snakes in response.
........and now he's set it to private.
Haha
How long is the lying cock sucker out for ??
Daily Mail tweeting that Delph is out for the season........
https://twitter.com/MaiIFootball/status/624535639623639040
It is taking time assessing a hamstring injury though. However, I'm no medical expert.
I wonder if the injured Fabian Delph is keeping up to date with the mass influx of talented personnel arriving at Villa Park by the boatload. Its quite possible that the shameful one is thinking " Christ what have I done". Unfortunately Fabian in life money is not everything. It is most things I grant you,but not everything. In the space of a few weeks you have gone from being a highly respected professional with standards to be admired by supporters across the nation to a very greedy cashbuilder and a man who is seen as a bare faced liar.
It is very sad.Very sad indeed.
I wonder if the injured Fabian Delph is keeping up to date with the mass influx of talented personnel arriving at Villa Park by the boatload. Its quite possible that the shameful one is thinking " Christ what have I done". Unfortunately Fabian in life money is not everything. It is most things I grant you,but not everything. In the space of a few weeks you have gone from being a highly respected professional with standards to be admired by supporters across the nation to a very greedy cashbuilder and a man who is seen as a bare faced liar.
It is very sad.Very sad indeed.
As much as I'd love it to be so, I dont think he gives a shit. He's probably flicking through the latest Maserati brochure as we speak.
Don't know much about this fabian Delph guy, ex-leeds? Worth Sherwood having a look?
Why do people keep going on about money? Even with your claret bespectacled one eye can you not think of other reasons why an ambitious footballer would rather play for a champions leage qualified, premier league title contender rather than a perennially average relegation fighter?
Why do people keep going on about money? Even with your claret bespectacled one eye can you not think of other reasons why an ambitious footballer would rather play for a champions leage qualified, premier league title contender rather than a perennially average relegation fighter?
Allow me:
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"I never doubted his integrity"
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But it does though. If he hadn't done his first u-turn and pledged his future to Villa and couldn't wait until the season started to lead out this wonderful club then, perhaps I would have no trouble in agreeing with you, but he didn't, he lied through his teeth. He did nothing for footballing reasons he did it all for money and nothing will convince me differently.
But it does though. If he hadn't done his first u-turn and pledged his future to Villa and couldn't wait until the season started to lead out this wonderful club then, perhaps I would have no trouble in agreeing with you, but he didn't, he lied through his teeth. He did nothing for footballing reasons he did it all for money and nothing will convince me differently.
Dave - the point was why do people keep saying it's just about money. You honestly don't think the footballing opportunity played a part?
Some people are as deluded as the Leicester fans on Fox talk.
he'd still have been a millionaire with riches the likes of us can only dream of.
he'd still have been a millionaire with riches the likes of us can only dream of.
I guess this is my point. I'm as dissapointed as anyone as to the way he left (although if you offered me the £8m (or, say, Amavi) and the U-turn issue verses a nice clean free transfer, I'd have taken the money every day). But my own view is that as Villa fans we underestimate how much better the football opportunity is elsewhere. The same as why some people can't understand Benteke joining Liverpool over staying here. The same as the Leicester fans who think they ought to be a better pull for Veretout than us.
It's not always about the money, although I'm sure that's a nice bonus.
He signed a new contract last season which guaranteed us £8 million, when he could have gone for free. That's meant we got back what we paid for him and were able to purchase a replacement.We all know that £8m is better than nothing but the low release clause was in his contract for at least 3 reasons...
Chris, we can keep going around in circles with this. The majority of people posting on this thread are of similar opinion to me. I had a conversation with a friend on Facebook last night about this and, the word scruples cropped up; and the way Delph conducted himself in this matter proved to me, that he lacks them.
Take a look at all the footage of him since he signed for them. To me, he doesn't look 100% happy at all. It's as if he realises he's made a mistake. Obviously I can't say that for definite, but that is how it comes across to me.
To try and answer your question, it's what the majority of us think. Primarily, he's gone for the money, in fairness he's not the most gifted of players is he? Villa at the moment is his level. He should have stayed and continue to improve, he'd still have been a millionaire with riches the likes of us can only dream of. Your opinion is every bit as valid as mine.
A few people on here are like a bunch of scorned lovers and to be honest it's rather embarrassing.
He signed a new contract last season which guaranteed us £8 million, when he could have gone for free. That's meant we got back what we paid for him and were able to purchase a replacement.
He did us some good service when here and as far as I know conducted himself impeccably and is a good character.
Yes he did say he was going to stay, a foolish mistake, but hey on reflection he changed his mind, and why wouldn't he, he's more than entitled to, probably offered double the money, a chance of winning a few things and playing in Europe, and playing with a much better standard of player.
After the farce that we've been for the last 4 years or so, no sane rational person would blame him.
Get over it people, I hate to say it but he's backed himself to succeed and gone on to bigger and better things, and I wish him the best.
A few people on here are like a bunch of scorned lovers and to be honest it's rather embarrassing.
He signed a new contract last season which guaranteed us £8 million, when he could have gone for free. That's meant we got back what we paid for him and were able to purchase a replacement.
He did us some good service when here and as far as I know conducted himself impeccably and is a good character.
Yes he did say he was going to stay, a foolish mistake, but hey on reflection he changed his mind, and why wouldn't he, he's more than entitled to, probably offered double the money, a chance of winning a few things and playing in Europe, and playing with a much better standard of player.
After the farce that we've been for the last 4 years or so, no sane rational person would blame him.
Get over it people, I hate to say it but he's backed himself to succeed and gone on to bigger and better things, and I wish him the best.
He signed a new contract last season which guaranteed us £8 million, when he could have gone for free. That's meant we got back what we paid for him and were able to purchase a replacement.We all know that £8m is better than nothing but the low release clause was in his contract for at least 3 reasons...
1. it ensures the club get back what we paid for him.
2. it ensures he can leave to any club of his choosing who met the release fee.
3. it ensures he was protected financially for up to 4 years in the event of injury whilst still at Villa.
The release fee was a ridiculously low figure and in normal transfer circumstances we would have easily got over £20m for him so £8m isn't really sufficient to purchase a like for like replacement, and that is why we are taking educated risks on the Gueye and Veretout.
He signed a new contract last season which guaranteed us £8 million, when he could have gone for free. That's meant we got back what we paid for him and were able to purchase a replacement.We all know that £8m is better than nothing but the low release clause was in his contract for at least 3 reasons...
1. it ensures the club get back what we paid for him.
2. it ensures he can leave to any club of his choosing who met the release fee.
3. it ensures he was protected financially for up to 4 years in the event of injury whilst still at Villa.
The release fee was a ridiculously low figure and in normal transfer circumstances we would have easily got over £20m for him so £8m isn't really sufficient to purchase a like for like replacement, and that is why we are taking educated risks on the Gueye and Veretout.
A few people on here are like a bunch of scorned lovers and to be honest it's rather embarrassing.
He signed a new contract last season which guaranteed us £8 million, when he could have gone for free. That's meant we got back what we paid for him and were able to purchase a replacement.
He did us some good service when here and as far as I know conducted himself impeccably and is a good character.
Yes he did say he was going to stay, a foolish mistake, but hey on reflection he changed his mind, and why wouldn't he, he's more than entitled to, probably offered double the money, a chance of winning a few things and playing in Europe, and playing with a much better standard of player.
After the farce that we've been for the last 4 years or so, no sane rational person would blame him.
Get over it people, I hate to say it but he's backed himself to succeed and gone on to bigger and better things, and I wish him the best.
He obviously had higher ASP-irations than VillaHe adder us over a barrel.
I have no problem wishing it him either - because I don't and never will. He lied to us, he took us for fools and I hope he never plays again.
A few people on here are like a bunch of scorned lovers and to be honest it's rather embarrassing.
He signed a new contract last season which guaranteed us £8 million, when he could have gone for free. That's meant we got back what we paid for him and were able to purchase a replacement.
He did us some good service when here and as far as I know conducted himself impeccably and is a good character.
Yes he did say he was going to stay, a foolish mistake, but hey on reflection he changed his mind, and why wouldn't he, he's more than entitled to, probably offered double the money, a chance of winning a few things and playing in Europe, and playing with a much better standard of player.
After the farce that we've been for the last 4 years or so, no sane rational person would blame him.
Get over it people, I hate to say it but he's backed himself to succeed and gone on to bigger and better things, and I wish him the best.
I have no problem wishing it him either - because I don't and never will. He lied to us, he took us for fools and I hope he never plays again.
For someone who generally talks with so much reason and sense, it's pretty sad to hear you come out with stuff like that.
This was no master plan. The fella changed his mind. Let's get over it.
I have no problem wishing it him either - because I don't and never will. He lied to us, he took us for fools and I hope he never plays again.
For someone who generally talks with so much reason and sense, it's pretty sad to hear you come out with stuff like that.
This was no master plan. The fella changed his mind. Let's get over it.
He makes us look fools and we're the ones who should get over it? Good luck with that one.
I have no problem wishing it him either - because I don't and never will. He lied to us, he took us for fools and I hope he never plays again.
For someone who generally talks with so much reason and sense, it's pretty sad to hear you come out with stuff like that.
This was no master plan. The fella changed his mind. Let's get over it.
I have no problem wishing it him either - because I don't and never will. He lied to us, he took us for fools and I hope he never plays again.
For someone who generally talks with so much reason and sense, it's pretty sad to hear you come out with stuff like that.
This was no master plan. The fella changed his mind. Let's get over it.
He changed his mind after 'that' video. There's the problem, some people are so determined to be more sensible than everyone else that they're completely ignoring why people have a problem with this. Let's break it down:
He's leaves on a free - most people are frustrated with the club for not getting him to sign a new contract earlier but most wish him well.
He signs the contract, releases the first video and then leaves in the summer but tells the fans that he didn't intend to leave but Man City right now is too good an opportunity to turn down - some fans will be sour about it but most can understand.
What he actually did was tell villa fans, twice, that he was one of them and he was in it for the long haul, and then he fucked off and gave some nonsense about securing the future of his family. Even if he did genuinely mean it when he chose to stay you don't record that video at that point, you stay, you let it come out in the press, you get all the feedback from friends, etc and then a week or so later, once you've heard all the arguments, you either go or you make the video. I don't think he's dumb enough to not know that was the right way to handle it so I'm convinced it was intended for some reason. I also think the timing was so everything could happen whilst Sherwood was away, again that felt intentional.
I have no problem wishing it him either - because I don't and never will. He lied to us, he took us for fools and I hope he never plays again.
For someone who generally talks with so much reason and sense, it's pretty sad to hear you come out with stuff like that.
This was no master plan. The fella changed his mind. Let's get over it.
He makes us look fools and we're the ones who should get over it? Good luck with that one.
He made himself look more of a fool to be honest.
Console yourself when Amavi is tearing up the league next year with the thought that Delph's £8m helped pay for that.
He's indecisive, rather than a true rotter of Hodge proportions.
Or even Platt, who was preparing for a move at least 12 months before he got one.
I'm not aware of multiple transfer requests going in as per Gareth Barry either.
I'd take it as a compliment that he was generally torn on the matter, despite Citeh's current status and ours. Like Milner, the club did seem to mean a lot to him, but he had to move to progress.
I don't wish him harm at all, particularly with the run of injuries he's had before. He was one of the few brightspots in a dismal couple of years.
I admit, I will find it mildly amusing if he spends most of the time being benched up there and his In-ger-lund career hits the skids as a consequence. But I reckon he has enough about him to make a go of things there.
I actually agree with KevinGage. He's been a bit of a plonker, but wishing injury on him? Christ. People should get a grip.
I also don't agree with the people saying he moved for money. Of course he didn't - he left to join a club that has a better chance of winning trophies.
I actually agree with KevinGage. He's been a bit of a plonker, but wishing injury on him? Christ. People should get a grip.
I also don't agree with the people saying he moved for money. Of course he didn't - he left to join a club that has a better chance of winning trophies.
The difference between 15million and 26million had nothing to do with it then?
He's clearly going to hope for the best deal possible. But come on, most players who aren't Villa fans will see Man City as a more attractive option, sadly.
That's not how I see it. He was made for life whichever club he played at. Maybe it's about, "Look what you Dad won when he was a footballer son..."I actually agree with KevinGage. He's been a bit of a plonker, but wishing injury on him? Christ. People should get a grip.
I also don't agree with the people saying he moved for money. Of course he didn't - he left to join a club that has a better chance of winning trophies.
The difference between 15million and 26million had nothing to do with it then?
He even said as much when referring to what was best for his family. That there just confirmed that it was about the money mainly.
He's clearly going to hope for the best deal possible. But come on, most players who aren't Villa fans will see Man City as a more attractive option, sadly.
I'm not even one of the people who are really upset about this but if you can't see how people knowing that's true but then being told it wasn't and then told actually it is in the space of a week is going to lead to a lot of very pissed off fans then you're just naive.
He's made himself a bit of a laughing stock really and a lot of time spent on the bench will seem like being stuck in purgatory. Good luck to him, he'll need it.
The lying twat. He'll never be one of us.
I have no problem wishing it him either - because I don't and never will. He lied to us, he took us for fools and I hope he never plays again.
For someone who generally talks with so much reason and sense, it's pretty sad to hear you come out with stuff like that.
This was no master plan. The fella changed his mind. Let's get over it.
He makes us look fools and we're the ones who should get over it? Good luck with that one.
Why are we still talking about this c***?
Why are we still talking about this c***?
He's indecisive, rather than a true rotter of Hodge proportions.
Or even Platt, who was preparing for a move at least 12 months before he got one.
I'm not aware of multiple transfer requests going in as per Gareth Barry either.
I'd take it as a compliment that he was generally torn on the matter, despite Citeh's current status and ours. Like Milner, the club did seem to mean a lot to him, but he had to move to progress.
I don't wish him harm at all, particularly with the run of injuries he's had before. He was one of the few brightspots in a dismal couple of years.
I admit, I will find it mildly amusing if he spends most of the time being benched up there and his In-ger-lund career hits the skids as a consequence. But I reckon he has enough about him to make a go of things there.
He's indecisive, rather than a true rotter of Hodge proportions.
Or even Platt, who was preparing for a move at least 12 months before he got one.
I'm not aware of multiple transfer requests going in as per Gareth Barry either.
I'd take it as a compliment that he was generally torn on the matter, despite Citeh's current status and ours. Like Milner, the club did seem to mean a lot to him, but he had to move to progress.
I don't wish him harm at all, particularly with the run of injuries he's had before. He was one of the few brightspots in a dismal couple of years.
I admit, I will find it mildly amusing if he spends most of the time being benched up there and his In-ger-lund career hits the skids as a consequence. But I reckon he has enough about him to make a go of things there.
Sorry, but the inclusion of the low buy-out clause proves he WAS planning a get out at the earliest opportunity. He's just a filthy liar.
He's indecisive, rather than a true rotter of Hodge proportions.
Or even Platt, who was preparing for a move at least 12 months before he got one.
I'm not aware of multiple transfer requests going in as per Gareth Barry either.
I'd take it as a compliment that he was generally torn on the matter, despite Citeh's current status and ours. Like Milner, the club did seem to mean a lot to him, but he had to move to progress.
I don't wish him harm at all, particularly with the run of injuries he's had before. He was one of the few brightspots in a dismal couple of years.
I admit, I will find it mildly amusing if he spends most of the time being benched up there and his In-ger-lund career hits the skids as a consequence. But I reckon he has enough about him to make a go of things there.
Sorry, but the inclusion of the low buy-out clause proves he WAS planning a get out at the earliest opportunity. He's just a filthy liar.
I stated some weeks back. Professing your love for something doesn't come with conditions. If he genuinely did love the club there would have been no buy out clause. If he wanted to thank the club for sticking by him when injured for so long and didn't profess any of that love stuff then he'd have a clause set at a level an England midfielder would expect to make, ie. £20 million. So yes, filthy liar is what he is.
He's indecisive, rather than a true rotter of Hodge proportions.
Or even Platt, who was preparing for a move at least 12 months before he got one.
I'm not aware of multiple transfer requests going in as per Gareth Barry either.
I'd take it as a compliment that he was generally torn on the matter, despite Citeh's current status and ours. Like Milner, the club did seem to mean a lot to him, but he had to move to progress.
I don't wish him harm at all, particularly with the run of injuries he's had before. He was one of the few brightspots in a dismal couple of years.
I admit, I will find it mildly amusing if he spends most of the time being benched up there and his In-ger-lund career hits the skids as a consequence. But I reckon he has enough about him to make a go of things there.
Sorry, but the inclusion of the low buy-out clause proves he WAS planning a get out at the earliest opportunity. He's just a filthy liar.
I stated some weeks back. Professing your love for something doesn't come with conditions. If he genuinely did love the club there would have been no buy out clause. If he wanted to thank the club for sticking by him when injured for so long and didn't profess any of that love stuff then he'd have a clause set at a level an England midfielder would expect to make, ie. £20 million. So yes, filthy liar is what he is.
I didn't mind the get out being £8 million; it was better than nothing. All the loyalty stuff in January; it was what we needed at the time. Then came the u-turn.
I can't believe the c*** made me do that!Why are we still talking about this c***?
Because you posted that and bumped it back to the top.
Agree paul_e and I think that is why a lot of people are pissed off with him. He took us for mugs, but if I'm honest I don't care now. He's gone and we've moved on. I look forward to seeing our new players now and don't wish Delph any bad will, unless he is playing Villa.I have no problem wishing it him either - because I don't and never will. He lied to us, he took us for fools and I hope he never plays again.
For someone who generally talks with so much reason and sense, it's pretty sad to hear you come out with stuff like that.
This was no master plan. The fella changed his mind. Let's get over it.
He changed his mind after 'that' video. There's the problem, some people are so determined to be more sensible than everyone else that they're completely ignoring why people have a problem with this. Let's break it down:
He's leaves on a free - most people are frustrated with the club for not getting him to sign a new contract earlier but most wish him well.
He signs the contract, releases the first video and then leaves in the summer but tells the fans that he didn't intend to leave but Man City right now is too good an opportunity to turn down - some fans will be sour about it but most can understand.
What he actually did was tell villa fans, twice, that he was one of them and he was in it for the long haul, and then he fucked off and gave some nonsense about securing the future of his family. Even if he did genuinely mean it when he chose to stay you don't record that video at that point, you stay, you let it come out in the press, you get all the feedback from friends, etc and then a week or so later, once you've heard all the arguments, you either go or you make the video. I don't think he's dumb enough to not know that was the right way to handle it so I'm convinced it was intended for some reason. I also think the timing was so everything could happen whilst Sherwood was away, again that felt intentional.
Any news on this injury? Taking a while to assess. Then again I assume it's hard to find where a snakes hamstring is located.
I was thinking, shouldn't this thread be moved to Other Football now?In the absence of a Judas Wankers section, Other Football probably fits best.
It does make a laugh how grown men come on here saying how much they are hurt and let down,and Delph is a lying bastard who you will hate forever, get a fucking life
Yes he is a turncoat, yes he said something that he didn't do,
he's a footballer you nobs get used to it, don't take everything they say as set in stone would be a good start
He never ran of with your wife, he hasn't deserted and gone and fought for ISIS, he went to Man City for a bucket load of money and the chance of a trophy or two
I don't like what he did, and yes I will take the piss now and again, but there are plenty more deserving cases for the outpouring of angst on here which is at times quite pathetic
It does make a laugh how grown men come on here saying how much they are hurt and let down,and Delph is a lying bastard who you will hate forever, get a fucking life
Yes he is a turncoat, yes he said something that he didn't do,
he's a footballer you nobs get used to it, don't take everything they say as set in stone would be a good start
He never ran of with your wife, he hasn't deserted and gone and fought for ISIS, he went to Man City for a bucket load of money and the chance of a trophy or two
I don't like what he did, and yes I will take the piss now and again, but there are plenty more deserving cases for the outpouring of angst on here which is at times quite pathetic
It does make a laugh how grown men come on here saying how much they are hurt and let down,and Delph is a lying bastard who you will hate forever, get a fucking life
Yes he is a turncoat, yes he said something that he didn't do,
he's a footballer you nobs get used to it, don't take everything they say as set in stone would be a good start
He never ran of with your wife, he hasn't deserted and gone and fought for ISIS, he went to Man City for a bucket load of money and the chance of a trophy or two
I don't like what he did, and yes I will take the piss now and again, but there are plenty more deserving cases for the outpouring of angst on here which is at times quite pathetic
It does make a laugh how grown men come on here saying how much they are hurt and let down,and Delph is a lying bastard who you will hate forever, get a fucking life
Yes he is a turncoat, yes he said something that he didn't do,
he's a footballer you nobs get used to it, don't take everything they say as set in stone would be a good start
He never ran of with your wife, he hasn't deserted and gone and fought for ISIS, he went to Man City for a bucket load of money and the chance of a trophy or two
I don't like what he did, and yes I will take the piss now and again, but there are plenty more deserving cases for the outpouring of angst on here which is at times quite pathetic
Can't we just lock this thread. Time to move on.
Moved to Other Football?
How very VillaTalk.
Moved to Other Football?
How very VillaTalk.
Threads like this tell you very little you don't know already about the player being discussed but they tell you a great deal about the posters who create the threads. Outside the ground turnstiles I am an easy going inoffensive old codger but I walked into an absolute firestorm of hostility from a Villa fan in the pub on the banks of the Trent yesterday for daring to say I thought Baker's new contract was a good thing. I beat a rapid retreat and hid among some friendly Forest fans of my own age.
You do know that's now the third time you've made that joke?
It does make a laugh how grown men come on here saying how much they are hurt and let down,and Delph is a lying bastard who you will hate forever, get a fucking life
Yes he is a turncoat, yes he said something that he didn't do,
he's a footballer you nobs get used to it, don't take everything they say as set in stone would be a good start
He never ran of with your wife, he hasn't deserted and gone and fought for ISIS, he went to Man City for a bucket load of money and the chance of a trophy or two
I don't like what he did, and yes I will take the piss now and again, but there are plenty more deserving cases for the outpouring of angst on here which is at times quite pathetic
Maybe he was calling everyone a nob as in Hobnob. I haven't had Hobnobs in ages.
Maybe he was calling everyone a nob as in Hobnob. I haven't had Hobnobs in ages.
Maybe he was calling everyone a nob as in Hobnob. I haven't had Hobnobs in ages.
I must say that I've noticed a sudden upturn in the level of lively banter and friendly atmosphere on here since I read this post. How are the kids, Toronts?! ;-)
Concerned about an ex Villa player ?
And his behaviour ?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-33611482
Concerned about an ex Villa player ?
And his behaviour ?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-33611482
Well obviously there are worse things in the World but if you are just going to point out a terrorist attack or a natural disaster every time a few people get irate about something that has happened to their football team we may as well just close all forums right now, because obviously nothing in football will ever actually be that important.
Or you could just ignore threads you don't like and let the rest of us vent away?
Concerned about an ex Villa player ?
And his behaviour ?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-33611482
Concerned about an ex Villa player ?
And his behaviour ?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-33611482
I would imagine that pretty much every single post on here is made, and read (at least by most), with the implicit acknowledgement that we are only talking about football and, as such, the fact that there are far more important / worse problems in life - ie getting killed in a terrorist attack, cancer, child mortality, whatever - goes without saying.
I cant believe we are debating such trivial matters when its not even 24 hours since Cilla left us
I cant believe we are debating such trivial matters when its not even 24 hours since Cilla left us
Concerned about an ex Villa player ?
And his behaviour ?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-33611482
May I respectfully suggest that many people come on here to escape from a lot of the miseries that confront them in their everyday lives?
Cilla Black was a national treasure, whereas Delph is just a gold diggerShed Seven will reform next year, release a 20th anniversary version of Digging For Gold in tribute to Delph.
I would liken it to a relationship breaking up. Whilst you would still be upset to be binned by a partner you really liked, a bit of honesty about means you would get over it far quicker.
It is a lot harder to take if they have been stringing you along for months, particularly if it was just a week before they canned you that they were talking about a long term relationship.
He's trying to get his fitness back by slithering around St. George's Park, Wandsworth:-
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/police-capture-five-foot-snake-on-loose-in-wandsworth-park-a2478321.html
He's trying to get his fitness back by slithering around St. George's Park, Wandsworth:-
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/police-capture-five-foot-snake-on-loose-in-wandsworth-park-a2478321.html
Sorry, wrong serpent family.
What we're dealing with has the scientific name Elaphe obsoleta quadrivittata, looks like this
(http://www.sunshineserpents.com/images/Rat%20Snakes/South%20FL%20Yellow%20Rat/YellowRat_Pahokee1_ed.jpg)
And goes by one of two common names
1. Chicken snake
Or
2. Yellow rat snake.
Cilla Black was a national treasure, whereas Delph is just a gold diggerShed Seven will reform next year, release a 20th anniversary version of Digging For Gold in tribute to Delph.
Source - Rick Witter's twitter.
Cilla Black was a national treasure, whereas Delph is just a gold diggerShed Seven will reform next year, release a 20th anniversary version of Digging For Gold in tribute to Delph.
Source - Rick Witter's twitter.
Like bollocks that's 20 years old. Really? God, the years are speeding by.
You have your work cut out for you now, Delphino!
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/33686731
i dot think De Bruen and Navas are similar. i do think that it does limit snakes opportunitys.You have your work cut out for you now, Delphino!
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/33686731
They don't really play in the same position though. It's bad news for Jesus Navas, certainly.
I don't think even Delph sees himself as an attacking right midfielder, which seems the most likely place KDB will play.
I can't be arsed with Delph but the only way this works out for us (vindictively) is if he loses his England place for the Euro's by not playing enough and his form dips. Because let's face it he's going to get some games and he's going to be in with a chance of winning every competition they are in. Even if he only only plays in 25% of the games they could very well walk away with 1 or 2 titles this season. At the end of the day that's one or two more than he'd win with us. I don't wish an injury on him even if I might chuckle when it happens. He's not a prick for leaving. He's a prick for how he left.
I don't think even Delph sees himself as an attacking right midfielder, which seems the most likely place KDB will play.
Yes, but, with Silva, Sterling, De Bruyne and Toure ahead of him certainly, is he getting in ahead of Fernandinho?
I've got a funny feeling he'll end up playing for us again, quite soon too.
I've got a funny feeling he'll end up playing for us again, quite soon too.
I can't be arsed with Delph but the only way this works out for us (vindictively) is if he loses his England place for the Euro's by not playing enough and his form dips. Because let's face it he's going to get some games and he's going to be in with a chance of winning every competition they are in. Even if he only only plays in 25% of the games they could very well walk away with 1 or 2 titles this season. At the end of the day that's one or two more than he'd win with us. I don't wish an injury on him even if I might chuckle when it happens. He's not a prick for leaving. He's a prick for how he left.
Surely that would be a very hollow feeling, winning a trophy only having had a handful of sub appearances?
I honestly don't know what was going through Delph's mind when he did his u-turn.
Unless he did it 100% for the extra money, which I don't think he did as he never struck me as the sort, he must be wondering whether he's just dropped the biggest bollock of his career.
I've got a funny feeling he'll end up playing for us again, quite soon too.
On a pay as you play deal where he gives us £30k every time we pick him.
He could quite easily have stuck in a clause of £15m+ and they still would have come in and bought him. Tosser.
I don't think it was money. He realized he'd made a mistake turning down the career opportunity. Which is fine. It's what he said in between that makes him look a prick. On top of being a prick for very obviously sticking the clause in his contract and then saying what he did.
He's not a prick for leaving. He's a prick for how he left.
I've got a funny feeling he'll end up playing for us again, quite soon too.Nooooooooo..... no Lee NO! I have never desecrated, thrown away, harmed or even slightly scratched anything with our badge or colours on it but if W*nker returned I will burn my Season cards!
I've got a funny feeling he'll end up playing for us again, quite soon too.Nooooooooo..... no Lee NO! I have never desecrated, thrown away, harmed or even slightly scratched anything with our badge or colours on it but if W*nker returned I will burn my Season cards!
I've got a funny feeling he'll end up playing for us again, quite soon too.
I don't think it was money. He realized he'd made a mistake turning down the career opportunity. Which is fine. It's what he said in between that makes him look a prick. On top of being a prick for very obviously sticking the clause in his contract and then saying what he did.
Although naive of the club if they couldn't spot the likely outcome of such a low release fee.
The new contract was pointless in every respect but making us get back what we paid for him rather than nothing.
Making a big deal of it was pretty ill advised.
Had the supporters known about it at the time he signed, we would definitely been less cockahoop about it.
I don't think it was money. He realized he'd made a mistake turning down the career opportunity. Which is fine. It's what he said in between that makes him look a prick. On top of being a prick for very obviously sticking the clause in his contract and then saying what he did.
Although naive of the club if they couldn't spot the likely outcome of such a low release fee.
The new contract was pointless in every respect but making us get back what we paid for him rather than nothing.
Making a big deal of it was pretty ill advised.
Had the supporters known about it at the time he signed, we would definitely been less cockahoop about it.
My guess is, and I concede I could be wrong, but they looked at the way his deal was announced as a way of boosting fan morale given how utterly bollocks things were at the time. Which it was even if ultimately the balloon of good feeling crashed from the sky not long after.
I've got a funny feeling he'll end up playing for us again, quite soon too.
Seriously? Why?
He realized he'd made a mistake turning down the career opportunity.
He realized he'd made a mistake turning down the career opportunity.
What kind of career is sitting on the bench watching a conveyor belt of more expensive signings play? Surely he didn't think he was going to step right into the starting 11?
How many minutes has he played since returning from injury?
I've got a funny feeling he'll end up playing for us again, quite soon too.
Seriously? Why?
I've got a funny feeling he'll end up playing for us again, quite soon too.
Seriously? Why?
No reason really, just with them staring so well and him being out injured I could environment envisage a situation come January where it could happen.
He'll probably be looking for someone to take him in, come the end of the season.
He'll probably be looking for someone to take him in, come the end of the season.
Oh tender woman.
He'll probably be looking for someone to take him in, come the end of the season.
Oh tender woman.
for heavens sake
My word, can Delph sink any lower? The Independent reporting that he and the other snake Raheem Sterling have posted on Instagram with sake emojis! This is likely to enrage Villa and Liverpool fans! No shit sherlock...!
My word, can Delph sink any lower? The Independent reporting that he and the other snake Raheem Sterling have posted on Instagram with sake emojis! This is likely to enrage Villa and Liverpool fans! No shit sherlock...!
Love me like a reptile?
I hope some part time San Marino clogger boots the twat into next week.
I know I shouldn't be surprised but they really have no shame at all.
You'd like to think that Delph atleast has some regrets about the manner of his departure but clearly not.
What a fucking prick!
Pair of smug pricks, all the dumb twats had to do, was take possible abusive behaviour from there previous teams home grounds...
I'm fairly certain that there is a Villa related website that has already started selling such things.
Pair of smug pricks, all the dumb twats had to do, was take possible abusive behaviour from there previous teams home grounds...
I'd like to think that we could come up with a witty retort rather than simply booing and jeering. Perhaps in the style of 80s inflatable bananas, some enterprising street trader could start selling inflatable snakes. Or every brings along a rubber snake, holds it aloft like a scarf and parodies the Kop: "Slide on, slide on, like a snake in the grass..."
Take the 's' off your 'https'.
Against San Marino.Which is why I mentioned JonJo.
Wasn't it Sterling, not Delph, that posted the snake emojis?
I'll be honest and say I think it's quite funny. If we are happy to dish it out, we have to suck it up when it's returned. That's how I look at it anyway.
Wasn't it Sterling, not Delph, that posted the snake emojis?
I'll be honest and say I think it's quite funny. If we are happy to dish it out, we have to suck it up when it's returned. That's how I look at it anyway.
Wasn't it Sterling, not Delph, that posted the snake emojis?
I'll be honest and say I think it's quite funny. If we are happy to dish it out, we have to suck it up when it's returned. That's how I look at it anyway.
Me to
Not a shred of thought between them about the impacts of that Instagram message
Not a shred of thought between them about the impacts of that Instagram message
What "impacts" are you thinking of?
Not a shred of thought between them about the impacts of that Instagram message
What "impacts" are you thinking of?
Will somebody please think of the children in all of this?
Last season I thought he was a crucial player for us to keep.
I know it is only early days, but I've barely given the c*** a thought since the season started.
See this, too, interesting:
http://metro.co.uk/2015/09/05/stats-show-that-new-aston-villa-recruit-idrissa-gueye-is-already-a-better-player-than-fabian-delph-5376904/
He looked decent again when coming on for England today.
Saying that so did JonJo.
Last season I thought he was a crucial player for us to keep.
I know it is only early days, but I've barely given the c*** a thought since the season started.
See this, too, interesting:
http://metro.co.uk/2015/09/05/stats-show-that-new-aston-villa-recruit-idrissa-gueye-is-already-a-better-player-than-fabian-delph-5376904/
it's really a case of when we were utterly gash it's easier for the better players to stand out. Now that collectively we are stronger it's a positive sign that players like Gueye go about their business very efficiently. Delphi is a good player, but I think we had him on a pedestal for very obvious reasons as we desperately clung to anything that gave us hope.
Be interesting to see how much England time he gets this week.
https://vine.co/v/etXY6p2jn3d
It would appear, if social media is anything to go by, that it's not just Villa fans who are rather amused at this hefty dose of karma.
SURLEY TO FUCK CITY ONLY WANTED HIM COS HE WAS ENGLISH
HE REALLY CAN ROT FOR ME
I don't want him to be injured. I want him to fail through performance.
The guy is a wanker and we should just lock this thread now and move on.
I don't want him to be injured. I want him to fail through performance.
I don't.
I want him to be out injured for ages. Take it badly. Start drinking every night. Begin to have the odd tipple during the day. Start comfort eating. Fall into a depressive funk. Put shedloads of weight on.
Basically, by the time he returns for training at Man City, I'd like him to look like Luther Vandross (pre-death).
I don't want him to be injured. I want him to fail through performance.
I don't.
I want him to be out injured for ages. Take it badly. Start drinking every night. Begin to have the odd tipple during the day. Start comfort eating. Fall into a depressive funk. Put shedloads of weight on.
Basically, by the time he returns for training at Man City, I'd like him to look like Luther Vandross (pre-death).
I don't want him to be injured. I want him to fail through performance.
I don't.
I want him to be out injured for ages. Take it badly. Start drinking every night. Begin to have the odd tipple during the day. Start comfort eating. Fall into a depressive funk. Put shedloads of weight on.
Basically, by the time he returns for training at Man City, I'd like him to look like Luther Vandross (pre-death).
Too much?
Never!
I don't want him to be injured. I want him to fail through performance.
I don't.
I want him to be out injured for ages. Take it badly. Start drinking every night. Begin to have the odd tipple during the day. Start comfort eating. Fall into a depressive funk. Put shedloads of weight on.
Basically, by the time he returns for training at Man City, I'd like him to look like Luther Vandross (pre-death).
Too much?
Never!
I'd like him to get involved with a 'financial expert' who advises him to invest *all* his money in an oil well in a non-existent country. Then the Luther Vandross thing. Then a sex scandal involving Wee Jimmy Krankie. And a criminal prosecution after his hard drive is found to contain abuse images involving himself and a turkey. Day after day, arriving for hearings at Manchester Crown Court with a limp because his hamstring is still fucked
I still think him and Idrissa Gueye would be the basis of a great midfield
I wish people would move on. Delph clearly took poor advice and lacks the accumen to conduct himself in a decent manner, but that is little reason to wish him harm.
He was often a good player for us but never great and I am satisfied that we have made a significant upgrade by signing Gueye who looks like a much more accomplished player than Delph will ever be.
I wish people would move on. Delph clearly took poor advice and lacks the accumen to conduct himself in a decent manner, but that is little reason to wish him harm.
He was often a good player for us but never great and I am satisfied that we have made a significant upgrade by signing Gueye who looks like a much more accomplished player than Delph will ever be.
He seems to be picking up regular injuries. Perhaps if he were playing regularly that might not be the case. He has plenty of time to reflect on that now.
We really need to get over this now.
We really need to get over this now.
We really need to get over this now.
You're right. We need to accept that he's pulling strings in someone else's midfield now.
Arf.
We really need to get over this now.
Delph clearly doesn't give a shit - he seems to think the abuse is quite funny. So him injured within twelve seconds last night was a joy. If that makes me petty and small-minded, then OK.
I don't get the importance of winning trophies and leagues in the life of a real fan of a club. What being a die hard proper fan delivers is way above pot hunting glory, it is the inalienable right to take the piss out of anybody and everybody who is not just the same as we are. It is our duty to the ghosts who walk with us through Villa Park to bray and cavort when one who has wronged us falls in a tub of turds. There are those who join us on here like footy who make me roll my eyeballs inside my skull but if a nose or a bitter or a dog head dared to try to put him down he or she would face a verbal Gatling gun from these pages. We are a tribe, a band of moral and behavioural outlaws.
I don't get the importance of winning trophies and leagues in the life of a real fan of a club. What being a die hard proper fan delivers is way above pot hunting glory, it is the inalienable right to take the piss out of anybody and everybody who is not just the same as we are. It is our duty to the ghosts who walk with us through Villa Park to bray and cavort when one who has wronged us falls in a tub of turds. There are those who join us on here like footy who make me roll my eyeballs inside my skull but if a nose or a bitter or a dog head dared to try to put him down he or she would face a verbal Gatlinggun from these pages. We are a tribe, a band of moral and behavioural outlaws.
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers
I don't get the importance of winning trophies and leagues in the life of a real fan of a club. What being a die hard proper fan delivers is way above pot hunting glory, it is the inalienable right to take the piss out of anybody and everybody who is not just the same as we are. It is our duty to the ghosts who walk with us through Villa Park to bray and cavort when one who has wronged us falls in a tub of turds. There are those who join us on here like footy who make me roll my eyeballs inside my skull but if a nose or a bitter or a dog head dared to try to put him down he or she would face a verbal Gatling gun from these pages. We are a tribe, a band of moral and behavioural outlaws.Word
Mind if I pinch it?Just don't leave a mark !
Mind if I pinch it?Just don't leave a mark !
Have to admit to chortling heartily when I saw Stan Collymore's instagram post.
I don't get the importance of winning trophies and leagues in the life of a real fan of a club. What being a die hard proper fan delivers is way above pot hunting glory, it is the inalienable right to take the piss out of anybody and everybody who is not just the same as we are. It is our duty to the ghosts who walk with us through Villa Park to bray and cavort when one who has wronged us falls in a tub of turds. There are those who join us on here like footy who make me roll my eyeballs inside my skull but if a nose or a bitter or a dog head dared to try to put him down he or she would face a verbal Gatling gun from these pages. We are a tribe, a band of moral and behavioural outlaws.Well said Brian, just be careful DW doesn't see it or it will end up on H&V tee shirts at ten quid each. ;D
I don't get the importance of winning trophies and leagues in the life of a real fan of a club. What being a die hard proper fan delivers is way above pot hunting glory, it is the inalienable right to take the piss out of anybody and everybody who is not just the same as we are. It is our duty to the ghosts who walk with us through Villa Park to bray and cavort when one who has wronged us falls in a tub of turds. There are those who join us on here like footy who make me roll my eyeballs inside my skull but if a nose or a bitter or a dog head dared to try to put him down he or she would face a verbal Gatling gun from these pages. We are a tribe, a band of moral and behavioural outlaws.
I have to be honest and say me too!I wish people would move on. Delph clearly took poor advice and lacks the accumen to conduct himself in a decent manner, but that is little reason to wish him harm.
He was often a good player for us but never great and I am satisfied that we have made a significant upgrade by signing Gueye who looks like a much more accomplished player than Delph will ever be.
You're right of course, but I'm still glad his hamstring is fucked.
We are a tribe, a band of moral and behavioural outlaws.Yes yes!
Excel, Powerpoint, Outlook and fucking Access too!I don't get the importance of winning trophies and leagues in the life of a real fan of a club. What being a die hard proper fan delivers is way above pot hunting glory, it is the inalienable right to take the piss out of anybody and everybody who is not just the same as we are. It is our duty to the ghosts who walk with us through Villa Park to bray and cavort when one who has wronged us falls in a tub of turds. There are those who join us on here like footy who make me roll my eyeballs inside my skull but if a nose or a bitter or a dog head dared to try to put him down he or she would face a verbal Gatling gun from these pages. We are a tribe, a band of moral and behavioural outlaws.Word
Which was?here... http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-how-stan-collymore-10017244
Which was?here... http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-how-stan-collymore-10017244
I don't think there is a cat in hells chance of him being anywhere near the pitch, or even the ground when we play them in November.
The spineless spunkbubble will be injured or something, probably with twatstrain.
If these injuries keep coming 8 million is going to look like decent business.
PhysioRoom.com @physioroom 2h2 hours ago
Fabian Delph worked with the Man City squad yesterday and is targeting a return against Aston Villa #MCFC
Out of curiosity does anyone know how many appearances he has made this season?
A tasty Hutton special on 90 minutes would be my preference. Cock.
Out of curiosity does anyone know how many appearances he has made this season?
Out of curiosity does anyone know how many appearances he has made this season?
2 for Citeh for a total of about 20 mins and 2 for England for a total of about 35 mins.
Did fcuk all when he came on, how many times did he touch the ball.
At least once when the fucker could have snaked it in but not much else.
And I imagine he'd have celebrated like fuck given the "welcome" (I'm not decrying the welcome btw!)At least once when the fucker could have snaked it in but not much else.
If that had gone in I think i'd have died a little on the inside.
Did fcuk all when he came on, how many times did he touch the ball.
He only came on for about ten minutes to be fair.
Why did he throw his shirt into the city fans ?
I did not see any others do it ?
Why did he throw his shirt into the city fans ?Let's face it how many opportunities he is going to get to do that so let him have his day. Others were disappointed at not winning he was delighted at being on the pitch.
I did not see any others do it ?
I do wish it had been "one lying bastard" rather than "one greedy bastard" that was sung at him.
Did fcuk all when he came on, how many times did he touch the ball.
He only came on for about ten minutes to be fair.
He had heard some manc wants to make a snakeskin coat.Brilliant, I wish that was my quip.
Little prick is injured again. Oh dear.
I know people disagree, but I would love him to get a really serious injury.
I know people disagree, but I would love him to get a really serious injury.
I know people disagree, but I would love him to get a really serious injury.
I know people disagree, but I would love him to get a really serious injury.
I'd like him to see out his contract at City whilst they win everything but due to his niggling injuries he misses out any medals due to not playing enough games or being injured for any finals.
I'd like him to see out his contract at City whilst they win everything but due to his niggling injuries he misses out any medals due to not playing enough games or being injured for any finals.
And then be hit with a massive tax bill.
I hope he steps on a sharp piece of Lego and whist he's hopping around, stands on an upturned plug.
I hope he steps on a sharp piece of Lego and whist he's hopping around, stands on an upturned plug.
I hope he steps on a sharp piece of Lego and whist he's hopping around, stands on an upturned plug.
Had to suppress giggle as I'm hiding in the toilet at work.
I'd like him to see out his contract at City whilst they win everything but due to his niggling injuries he misses out any medals due to not playing enough games or being injured for any finals.
And then be hit with a massive tax bill.
To be honest I don't wish him any injury. I genuinely think his average ability will hold him back in their team more than anything. Really could not see why they bought him and still cant
Need that Sideshow Bob clip with the rakes posting now.
I don't wish harm, but i do wish that he plays such little football that he is not in woy's squad for France 2016. As much we say his about turn was money I am pretty such motive was playing in chumps league etc.Mostly agree with this (just not the no harm bit).
And scoring for club and country - something he has never done. (when i say no harm - i mean no physical harm - mental harm is much more powerful ;D)I don't wish harm, but i do wish that he plays such little football that he is not in woy's squad for France 2016. As much we say his about turn was money I am pretty such motive was playing in chumps league etc.Mostly agree with this (just not the no harm bit).
He is going to be under pressure with the new boys coming through (Alli etc) and these guys are playing for their clubs regularly.
Didn;t quite get it right, just found it it was from Phil McNulty on the Beeb
"Harry Kane justified his selection up front but the likes of Fabian Delph and Kyle Walker suggested they will be shadow squad men and not much more."
Didn;t quite get it right, just found it it was from Phil McNulty on the Beeb
"Harry Kane justified his selection up front but the likes of Fabian Delph and Kyle Walker suggested they will be shadow squad men and not much more."
Whilst I can appreciate the schadenfreude, it must also be pointed out that McNulty is a massive prick.
Didn;t quite get it right, just found it it was from Phil McNulty on the Beeb
"Harry Kane justified his selection up front but the likes of Fabian Delph and Kyle Walker suggested they will be shadow squad men and not much more."
Whilst I can appreciate the schadenfreude, it must also be pointed out that McNulty is a massive prick.
Agreed, see also Pat Murphy and other associated BBC dregs. Such is my contempt for them if they start laying into Delph I start to think better of Delph. No small feat.
Didn;t quite get it right, just found it it was from Phil McNulty on the Beeb
"Harry Kane justified his selection up front but the likes of Fabian Delph and Kyle Walker suggested they will be shadow squad men and not much more."
Whilst I can appreciate the schadenfreude, it must also be pointed out that McNulty is a massive prick.
Agreed, see also Pat Murphy and other associated BBC dregs. Such is my contempt for them if they start laying into Delph I start to think better of Delph. No small feat.
Would you say the article was a "return to the dark ages" of journalism, showing "the ugly face" of the profession, or would that be a fucking massive overreaction as well?
Talking of which, have Salford received their 200k fine yet?
Didn;t quite get it right, just found it it was from Phil McNulty on the Beeb
"Harry Kane justified his selection up front but the likes of Fabian Delph and Kyle Walker suggested they will be shadow squad men and not much more."
Whilst I can appreciate the schadenfreude, it must also be pointed out that McNulty is a massive prick.
Agreed, see also Pat Murphy and other associated BBC dregs. Such is my contempt for them if they start laying into Delph I start to think better of Delph. No small feat.
I like Pat Murphy. There, I've said it. And his interviews with Lambert were brilliant, I thought.
for me Pat is like the vast majority of BBC reporters/presenters/whatever ; hubristic, pompous self absorbed arsewipes - there, I've said it!
for me Pat is like the vast majority of BBC reporters/presenters/whatever ; hubristic, pompous self absorbed arsewipes - there, I've said it!
Surely a self absorbing arsewipe is what you want and not one that just spreads it around?
for me Pat is like the vast majority of BBC reporters/presenters/whatever ; hubristic, pompous self absorbed arsewipes - there, I've said it!
Surely a self absorbing arsewipe is what you want and not one that just spreads it around?
for me Pat is like the vast majority of BBC reporters/presenters/whatever ; hubristic, pompous self absorbed arsewipes - there, I've said it!
Surely a self absorbing arsewipe is what you want and not one that just spreads it around?
That reminds me of the Izal toilet rolls we had when I was in junior school. Talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel....
School? - you were lucky: my old man used to insist we used them at home!
That reminds me of the Izal toilet rolls we had when I was in junior school. Talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel....
My parents had friends who I used to think were really posh - no children, lived in Streetly - I was amazed when I went to the loo one day to find that they used Izal at home.School? - you were lucky: my old man used to insist we used them at home!
That reminds me of the Izal toilet rolls we had when I was in junior school. Talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel....
A ring-stinger, and hopeless for blasting clingons!
As unpleasant a memo as it is, I remember when Izal would have been a luxury. Being taken as a small child to the communal toilets at the end of back-to-back terrace where the toiletry of choice was: cut into squares newspapers.More absorbent than Izal, methinks.
*shudders*
Izal shiny arse toilet paper used to be issued in Army ration packs, about as much use as tits on a fish after a diet of composite rations for several days, the only other place I ever saw the stuff was at my dear old Nan's house in Northfield.Also really useful in NBC conditions trying buddy buddy routine having a shit
Bloody hell, Compo rations. That takes me back. They were the only food worse than whale meat (main dealer F Normansell, Bell St and the market hall) and snoek, some sort of fish traded by the same gentleman football club owner that civilians had to eat. Mutton Scottish Style (Mutton Jocks to the squaddies)'was the worst and universally loathed. Lumps of undercooked animal fat floating in slimy grey porridge. We had it in Berlin when the Jerries were starving and even they would not eat it.
Shit the fuq up and talk about Pat Murphy and Fabian Delph.
Could never get any of my section to eat the cheese possessed we had cans all over the back of our 432 every time we came off exercise,Bloody hell, Compo rations. That takes me back. They were the only food worse than whale meat (main dealer F Normansell, Bell St and the market hall) and snoek, some sort of fish traded by the same gentleman football club owner that civilians had to eat. Mutton Scottish Style (Mutton Jocks to the squaddies)'was the worst and universally loathed. Lumps of undercooked animal fat floating in slimy grey porridge. We had it in Berlin when the Jerries were starving and even they would not eat it.
As unpleasant as compo was in the main (biscuits fruit, spangles, bacon burgers excepted) you should try the American version MREs or Meals Ready to Eat. We renamed them Meals Rejected by Ethiopia they were so bad.
quite possibly but it doesn't alter the fact that he's a pompous git
Can't we fuck this thread off somewhere else?
Time Wasters?Can't we fuck this thread off somewhere else?
Seconded.
Agreed. We can resurrect it for 10 minutes every couple of months.
Pat (we're on first name terms) is an old-school BBC broadcaster with a style that he isn't changing for anyone. This can make him seem pompous but he's one of the few in the press box who doesn't care how many feathers he ruffles and for that alone we should be grateful.
Pat (we're on first name terms) is an old-school BBC broadcaster with a style that he isn't changing for anyone. This can make him seem pompous but he's one of the few in the press box who doesn't care how many feathers he ruffles and for that alone we should be grateful.
I like him. Tells it pretty much as is, and echoes a lot of comments you read on here. I really don't believe he has an anti Villa agenda.
Could never get any of my section to eat the cheese possessed we had cans all over the back of our 432 every time we came off exercise,Bloody hell, Compo rations. That takes me back. They were the only food worse than whale meat (main dealer F Normansell, Bell St and the market hall) and snoek, some sort of fish traded by the same gentleman football club owner that civilians had to eat. Mutton Scottish Style (Mutton Jocks to the squaddies)'was the worst and universally loathed. Lumps of undercooked animal fat floating in slimy grey porridge. We had it in Berlin when the Jerries were starving and even they would not eat it.
As unpleasant as compo was in the main (biscuits fruit, spangles, bacon burgers excepted) you should try the American version MREs or Meals Ready to Eat. We renamed them Meals Rejected by Ethiopia they were so bad.
Could never get any of my section to eat the cheese possessed we had cans all over the back of our 432 every time we came off exercise,Bloody hell, Compo rations. That takes me back. They were the only food worse than whale meat (main dealer F Normansell, Bell St and the market hall) and snoek, some sort of fish traded by the same gentleman football club owner that civilians had to eat. Mutton Scottish Style (Mutton Jocks to the squaddies)'was the worst and universally loathed. Lumps of undercooked animal fat floating in slimy grey porridge. We had it in Berlin when the Jerries were starving and even they would not eat it.
As unpleasant as compo was in the main (biscuits fruit, spangles, bacon burgers excepted) you should try the American version MREs or Meals Ready to Eat. We renamed them Meals Rejected by Ethiopia they were so bad.
Here's a trip down memory lane for your guts Brian.
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I'm not being ageist, but can someone tell me what period this rations pack thingy relates to?
I'm not being ageist, but can someone tell me what period this rations pack thingy relates to?
I'm not being ageist, but can someone tell me what period this rations pack thingy relates to?
The one in the picture were bought in in 1970 and was replaced with a new type using foil pouches rather than tins in 1997.
Font of all useless knowledge me!
Thanks manic. All that picture needs is a Benghazi. An invention of the magnitude of the wheel and the printing press, a metal cone inside a metal cylinder of the same base diameter. Top cut off cone. Fill space between cone and cylinder with water, pour petrol on the ground, place Benghazi on petrol soaked earth/sand/snow. Light petrol. Make tea. It was our secret weapon with which Rommel was defeated, hence the name.
No snakes were harmed in the preparation of this post.
This thread is like some spurned lover who swears he us over his ex but still keeps going on about her.
Can't we just lock it and move on?
Why is our local newspaper publishing this?
I was as enraged as anybody when Delph did what he did, my daughter sitting on her phone on the WI-FI in a hotel in Spain and saying "Dad - Delph`s signed for Man City" basically ruined a perfectly serviceable fortnight in Ibiza, but i`m beginning to think he had a point, he could see better than anyone of us where the club was heading - and will ultimately end up, and basically put himself and his career first, given the events since, i`m beginning to soften my stance against the bloke - and like it or not - he`s going to have the last laugh on this one.
Thanks for that, i hadn`t realised.I was as enraged as anybody when Delph did what he did, my daughter sitting on her phone on the WI-FI in a hotel in Spain and saying "Dad - Delph`s signed for Man City" basically ruined a perfectly serviceable fortnight in Ibiza, but i`m beginning to think he had a point, he could see better than anyone of us where the club was heading - and will ultimately end up, and basically put himself and his career first, given the events since, i`m beginning to soften my stance against the bloke - and like it or not - he`s going to have the last laugh on this one.
For the umpteeth time, no one blames him for leaving, it was the way he left.
Also the 8 mill buy out clause when he was worth at least 25 mill
Also the 8 mill buy out clause when he was worth at least 25 mill
Man city get delph we get gestede
Or with 25 mill we could of got a 15 mill striker Austin maybe and a 10 mill goalie or centre half
Plus the most beautiful bridge ever built VID.
The Menai. You posted a picture of that Malmo bridge and got us all at it with some wind up story about to get under it the ships all had to go full gas at it. I told my one remaining student this cock and bull story and her sparkly dangly earrings shook with mirth as she chortled in her cute Bulgarian accent Brian darling you are such a geriatric old prick.
Endnu et kæmpe krydstogtskib smyger sig under Storebæltsbroen, men kun efter at skorstenen er sænket ned. Passagen sker sent lørdag eftermiddag.
Yet another gigantic cruise ship sneaks under Storebælts bridge, but only after the funnel had been lowered. The passage occured late Saturday afternoon
For et år siden sejlede verdens på det tidspunkt største krydstogtskib Oasis of the Seas under Storebæltsbroen. Og det var en kneben affære.
Skibet var nemlig 72 meter højt og da der 'kun' er 65 meter fra havoverfladen til undersiden af broen, burde det faktisk slet ikke kunne lade sig gøre.
Problemet blev løst ved at skibet for første, eneste og ekstremt dyre gang sænkede skorstenene, hvilket reducerede dets højde til 64 meter og 99 centimeter.
Men en centimeter at give af er ikke helt nok, så derudover passerede skibet under broen i lavvande og ved fuld kraft, således, at det ligger så dybt i vandet som muligt, og dermed skaber et hul mellem skib og bro på godt en meter.
Og nu skal succesen så - forhåbentlig - gentages, når søsterskibet til 'Oasis of the Seas'´, 'Allure of the Sea' skal under broen i morgen lørdag.
Allure of the Sea er 362 meter langt og har plads til 6.296
passagerer og en besætning på knapt 2.400.
Det indeholder bl.a. 17
barer, mere end 20 restauranter, to klatrevægge, et stort udendørs
amphiteater, en shoppinggade i to etager og en udendørs park længere end
en fodboldbane.
Krydstogtskibet er 49 cm længere end søsterskibet og er
dermed verdens største.Begge skibe er bygget på et rederi i den finske by Turku og tilhører rederiet Royal Carribean. De har hjemhavn i Florida.
Krydstogtsskibet passerer efter planen under Storebæltsbroen klokken
17.30, men der kan sagtens ske forsinkelser undervejs fra Finland.
Yet another gigantic cruise ship sneaks under Storebælts bridge, but only after the funnel had been lowered. The passage occured late Saturday afternoon
One year ago the, at that time, worlds largest cruise ship, Oasis of the Seas sailed under Storebælts bridge
The ship is actually 72 metres high and as there is “only” 65 metres from the sea surface to the underside of the bridge, it actually ought to be impossible to do this.
The problem was solved by, the first, only and extremely expensive time lowering the funnels, which reduced it’s height to 64 metres and 99 centimetres.
But 1 centimetre of leeway is not quite enough, so over and above this the ship passed under the bridge at low tide and with full power, so that it lay as low in the water as possible and in that way created a gap between the ship and the bridge by around 1 metre.
And now the success shall- hopefully - be repeated, when the sister ship to “Oasis of the Seas”, “Allure of the Sea” passes under the bridge tomorrow, Saturday.
Allure of the Sea is 362 metres long and has accommodation for 6,296 passengers and a crew of 2,400
It houses amongst other things, 17 bars, over 20 restaurants, 2 climbing walls, a large outdoor amphitheatre, a shopping mall on 2 floors and an outdoors park longer than a football pitch.
The cruise ship is 49 centimetres longer than her sister ship and as such the world’s largest. Both ships are built by a shipyard in the Finnish town of Turku and are owned by the cruise company Royal Carribean. They will have their home port in Florida
According to the plan, the cruise ship will pass under Storebælts Bridge at 17:30, but there may well be delays on the way from Finland,
The Menai. You posted a picture of that Malmo bridge and got us all at it with some wind up story about to get under it the ships all had to go full gas at it. I told my one remaining student this cock and bull story and her sparkly dangly earrings shook with mirth as she chortled in her cute Bulgarian accent Brian darling you are such a geriatric old prick.
As if. Yeah, hey skipper we ain't gonna get under the bridge. Shut up. Go faster.Found a link on CNN as well (http://edition.cnn.com/2010/TRAVEL/11/01/cruise.ship.bridge/)
Has Delph left for Total Network Solutions or something?After the way he left, think of it as building bridges.
Stuart, we don't want fucking Rhyl. Especially as for the money we could buy the whole of Stoke, Fenton, Burslem, Hanley and the one I have forgotten.
I know what you said about the bridge is/was true VID. I was foolin' aroun'. Difficult day at the typeface.Fair enough. Sometimes humour just doesn't work typed out. I should know, I've done it often enough :-[
Tak for det BrianBlærrøv
Another classic H&V thread diversion. Well done everybody*
(* except Chelts because of his anti-Newport posts. The place might well be a dump but I've found its ladies very friendly over the years)
Fair enough. Sometimes humour just doesn't work typed out. I should know, I've done it often enough :-[When?
Delph is seeing things
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/4160/extra-time/2016/04/05/22045022/delph-i-see-ghosts-all-the-time
He'll end up at Leicester I reckon
He'll end up at Leicester I reckon
I was really annoyed when Delph did his U-turn and left us for Man City.
However I have it on good authority (straight from another Man City player), that Delph actually wanted to stay, but the club (Fox) told him they wanted him off the wage bill to save money and pretty much forced him to leave. He fully intended to stay at Villa.
I was really annoyed when Delph did his U-turn and left us for Man City.
However I have it on good authority (straight from another Man City player), that Delph actually wanted to stay, but the club (Fox) told him they wanted him off the wage bill to save money and pretty much forced him to leave. He fully intended to stay at Villa.
If nobody remembers him, why are we still talking about him? :P
Is that roach as in crawling, repulsive, damp, dark place loving insect or roach as in slimy, wet, bulging eyed, slithery fish, TV?
I was really annoyed when Delph did his U-turn and left us for Man City.No chance. They wouldn't have produced all that glossy promotional crap if they were trying to shift him out
However I have it on good authority (straight from another Man City player), that Delph actually wanted to stay, but the club (Fox) told him they wanted him off the wage bill to save money and pretty much forced him to leave. He fully intended to stay at Villa.
I was really annoyed when Delph did his U-turn and left us for Man City.No chance. They wouldn't have produced all that glossy promotional crap if they were trying to shift him out
However I have it on good authority (straight from another Man City player), that Delph actually wanted to stay, but the club (Fox) told him they wanted him off the wage bill to save money and pretty much forced him to leave. He fully intended to stay at Villa.
I was really annoyed when Delph did his U-turn and left us for Man City.
However I have it on good authority (straight from another Man City player), that Delph actually wanted to stay, but the club (Fox) told him they wanted him off the wage bill to save money and pretty much forced him to leave. He fully intended to stay at Villa.
it doesn't matter - this time we're willing most of them to go!
I hate Manchester City.
Seems we got the last laugh on this one at least. Delph handed the whole thing really badly, and as it turns out he and City have had a poor season, and I don't think he will be going to the Euros by the looks of it. Hope he's learnt his lession 8)
Seems we got the last laugh on this one at least. Delph handed the whole thing really badly, and as it turns out he and City have had a poor season, and I don't think he will be going to the Euros by the looks of it. Hope he's learnt his lession 8)
I think he will if Henderson is injured , but he has not played much football has he ?
how many times can you keep counting your money ?
I see dead careers.
Thirded. They've killed football, I despise them more than Blues or the Albion.I hate Manchester City.
Seconded. I never used to. I do now.
Seems we got the last laugh on this one at least. Delph handed the whole thing really badly, and as it turns out he and City have had a poor season, and I don't think he will be going to the Euros by the looks of it. Hope he's learnt his lession 8)
I think he will if Henderson is injured , but he has not played much football has he ?
how many times can you keep counting your money ?
Pellegrini said as much earlier this season. That it was villa that pushed it through not Delph.I think Pellegrini said that to take the heat off his player before he faced his former club.
Seems we got the last laugh on this one at least.While we're being relegated? I'm not laughing!
Pellegrini said as much earlier this season. That it was villa that pushed it through not Delph.I think Pellegrini said that to take the heat off his player before he faced his former club.
Pellegrini said as much earlier this season. That it was villa that pushed it through not Delph.I think Pellegrini said that to take the heat off his player before he faced his former club.
Can you remember, or paraphrase, what was said?
....he was a Judas and did it worse than what Barry did, which before this happened I thought impossible.So, what did Barry do exactly?
....he was a Judas and did it worse than what Barry did, which before this happened I thought impossible.So, what did Barry do exactly?
Apart from not taking the penalty.
And, giving the Villa the 11 best years of his career.
Seems we got the last laugh on this one at least.While we're being relegated? I'm not laughing!
I was really annoyed when Delph did his U-turn and left us for Man City.Possibly the biggest load of bullshit I have heard in a long while.
However I have it on good authority (straight from another Man City player), that Delph actually wanted to stay, but the club (Fox) told him they wanted him off the wage bill to save money and pretty much forced him to leave. He fully intended to stay at Villa.
I was really annoyed when Delph did his U-turn and left us for Man City.Possibly the biggest load of bullshit I have heard in a long while.
However I have it on good authority (straight from another Man City player), that Delph actually wanted to stay, but the club (Fox) told him they wanted him off the wage bill to save money and pretty much forced him to leave. He fully intended to stay at Villa.
Every cloud ...Seems we got the last laugh on this one at least.While we're being relegated? I'm not laughing!
I know, and I did see the irony as soon as I posted the comment. Still we need these small things to hold onto...
Pellegrini said as much earlier this season. That it was villa that pushed it through not Delph.I think Pellegrini said that to take the heat off his player before he faced his former club.
Can you remember, or paraphrase, what was said?
You see I've no issue with Delph now. What was said above tied in with what my Man City contact said at the start of the season to me. That when we met he'd let me know what really happened, and that I could chat to Delph too.
No snakes on a plane lol
Probably end up at, Stoke, Everton, Swansea, Southampton, Palace or Bournemouth in his pursuit of Medals.
Probably end up at, Stoke, Everton, Swansea, Southampton, Palace or Bournemouth in his pursuit of Medals.
Which at the moment looks a lot more sensible than staying with us
The idea that we forced Delph out to save money, before going on to spunk 55 million pound on overpriced Frenchmen (on meaty wages) is utterly ludicrous. Delph is 110% serpent and a pox upon him. His abject failure at City is not remotely surprising either. I thought he was best looking good for a struggling club. He's a mid-table player at best because he can't pass or control a ball and if you can't do that, you'll never be a top midfielder. City will cash in and buy another average English player to replace him to keep up their home grown quota. Delph is firmly in the Rodwell /Sinclair/Johnson camp and a country mile from being a Barry/Milner.
Bad luck, Delph, you gigantic thundercunt.
I'm actually disappointed he's out with injury. Had he been fit;You're a right charmer.
A, He gets left out on merit, which I would personally have found more amusing.
B, He gets selected and becomes the player the media use to question Hodgson's judgment. Again, more amusing than another minor injury.
I hope his injury is career ending though.
he's back to picking up injuries and unnecessary bookies.
he's back to picking up injuries and unnecessary bookies.
'Kinell, it's worse than I thought!
So where exactly is a snake's groin?
Harsh on Drinkwater. Henderson and Wilshire birth lined miles off fit to me. Yet again England take 3 potentially injured players to a tournament. Shows how much we learn from past mistakes.
Harsh on Drinkwater. Henderson and Wilshire birth lined miles off fit to me. Yet again England take 3 potentially injured players to a tournament. Shows how much we learn from past mistakes.
Haven't you heard....Wiltshire is a player that grows into a tournament. Whatever that means. Henderson, I have no idea what he is doing anywhere near an International side as I don't think the required skill set is based around repeatedly giving the ball away to the opposition. All this even without injury doubts hanging over them.
If I was Drinkwater I'd be well pissed off.
Looking at the squad to see what has really changed since the Brazil 2014 debacle and the answer is not a lot. In essence, better full backs, and a couple of genuine hopefuls up front. Plus not carrying Lampard and Gerrard any longer I suppose.
It's not a great deal. Whatever Henderson and Wilshere are doing to Hodgson, it had to be pretty special.
The full backs can't defend. So you need defensive midfielders to cover it. But we didn't pick them either.
He is but in some games i would have sat Drinkwater in there with him too. Henderson and Wilshire are miles off fitness. It's been proved time and again that taking players with little football due to injury in the build up rarely works. Just smacks of Roy not having the balls to leave one of his boys out even for the good of the team.
He is but in some games i would have sat Drinkwater in there with him too. Henderson and Wilshire are miles off fitness. It's been proved time and again that taking players with little football due to injury in the build up rarely works. Just smacks of Roy not having the balls to leave one of his boys out even for the good of the team.
Gudoghen signed for Dortmund delphie place will be under threat ! He'll end up like Rodwell we can chant oh well haAnd he will just shout back, and hold up his £150k cheque.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36873898
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36873898
He'll probably leave there on Monday after saying that.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36873898
Anyone know who the overweight players are who Guardiola barred from training?Nasri was one
Anyone know who the overweight players are who Guardiola barred from training?
Citeh now on the verge of signing Leroy Sane for £37 million.
The real shame is this was so predictable that we all saw it apart from Snake.
He'll play about 5 games, how many times did he actually feature last year?
What has happened to the little snake - has he even been involved with Citeh this season? Apparently he is out injured again. What price him going on loan in January never to be seen again.
He's made a grand total of 3 appearances this season, 2 in PL 1 in CL and scored 1 goal. Quite honestly if he was eaten by a polar bear I wouldn't care.
without doubt, but I suspect he'd have far better offers for a loan than us if he was available.What has happened to the little snake - has he even been involved with Citeh this season? Apparently he is out injured again. What price him going on loan in January never to be seen again.
ok ready to wash mouth out , but he would be ideal in our midfield now
He's made a grand total of 3 appearances this season, 2 in PL 1 in CL and scored 1 goal. Quite honestly if he was eaten by a polar bear I wouldn't care.
He's made a grand total of 3 appearances this season, 2 in PL 1 in CL and scored 1 goal. Quite honestly if he was eaten by a polar bear I wouldn't care.
How big a polar bear we talking here?
What has happened to the little snake - has he even been involved with Citeh this season? Apparently he is out injured again. What price him going on loan in January never to be seen again.
ok ready to wash mouth out , but he would be ideal in our midfield now
What has happened to the little snake - has he even been involved with Citeh this season? Apparently he is out injured again. What price him going on loan in January never to be seen again.
ok ready to wash mouth out , but he would be ideal in our midfield now
Perhaps Brucie can arrange a loan deal? You know, clean slate and all that.....
my eldest lad is 28 now
I was chatting to him this morning and we mentioned Delph, he said rightly or wrongly that he would be in the top 5 of midfielders he has seen at VP,
I said although I did like him as a player when at Villa, he probably wouldn't get into my top 30/40 such is the difference between e generations
The only person who couldn't see he was being signed because he was a U.K. academy graduate and therefore a "quota" signing was him - unless he just thought f@€k it I'll take the money (?)
He only manages the top 4 in the Lerner era Behind Barry, Petrov and Milner.
He only manages the top 4 in the Lerner era Behind Barry, Petrov and Milner.
He's well liked but delph is a better player than Petrov. I think it shows a paucity of quality of midfielders that we have had that Petrov would be in our top 3 midfielders over the last 10 years or so.
If we're cheering Gabby's return, we may as well welcome Delph with open arms. Is Peter Sutcliffe match fit?
He only manages the top 4 in the Lerner era Behind Barry, Petrov and Milner.
He's well liked but delph is a better player than Petrov. I think it shows a paucity of quality of midfielders that we have had that Petrov would be in our top 3 midfielders over the last 10 years or so.
I disagree, over the course of their time with us Petrov was much more influential. Delph had 2-2 1/2 good seasons after 3-4 years of injuries and poor form. By the end he was on a similar level to Petrov but the latter gave us the best part of 6 seasons and for most of that time was a key contributor to us being a top half team.
If we're cheering Gabby's return, we may as well welcome Delph with open arms. Is Peter Sutcliffe match fit?
No, but Fred West could be in with a chance.
Would pull out all stops to buy him, then offer him 150k a week captains armband etc then as he pulls into villa park tell him sorry we changed our mindNasty if not downright vindictive - and entirely understandable.
I'd rather be relegated to League 1 than see this sub human scum play for Aston Villa again.
To be fair we still don't know the full story behind it. I really don't think its as clear cut as we think.
To be fair we still don't know the full story behind it. I really don't think its as clear cut as we think.
If we're cheering Gabby's return, we may as well welcome Delph with open arms. Is Peter Sutcliffe match fit?
No, but Fred West could be in with a chance.
I'd rather be relegated to League 1 than see this sub human scum play for Aston Villa again.
Sub human scum is a bit much, given the sort of context that phrase normally implies. He was an arsehole for what he did, but that's about the extent of it.
It just makes me laugh how it's turned out for the snake at City with injuries couldn't happen to a nicer person.
It just makes me laugh how it's turned out for the snake at City with injuries couldn't happen to a nicer person.
You're doing him a disservice there. It wasn't just injuries. It is also his lack of ability in a midfield full of quality players.
It just makes me laugh how it's turned out for the snake at City with injuries couldn't happen to a nicer person.
You're doing him a disservice there. It wasn't just injuries. It is also his lack of ability in a midfield full of quality players.
If only someone could've predicted it would end this way.
Oh, that's right, we all did!
I'd have him back, he'd be a cut above in this league and his style is what we need at the minute.
Imagine getting him and Rhodes, we'd be certain for play-offs.
I'd have him back, he'd be a cut above in this league and his style is what we need at the minute.
Imagine getting him and Rhodes, we'd be certain for play-offs.
He is picking up his 150k a week whether he plays or not so at least his family are taken care of.
He is picking up his 150k a week whether he plays or not so at least his family are taken care of.
True enough. But when he's old and grey will he look back and think of all those good memories of opening his online bank statement? Footballers have very short careers - selling one for a healthy bank account is pretty distasteful to me.
He is picking up his 150k a week whether he plays or not so at least his family are taken care of.
True enough. But when he's old and grey will he look back and think of all those good memories of opening his online bank statement? Footballers have very short careers - selling one for a healthy bank account is pretty distasteful to me.
It is when what he was earning here would have probably lasted him for the rest of his days anyway.
He is picking up his 150k a week whether he plays or not so at least his family are taken care of.
True enough. But when he's old and grey will he look back and think of all those good memories of opening his online bank statement? Footballers have very short careers - selling one for a healthy bank account is pretty distasteful to me.
It is when what he was earning here would have probably lasted him for the rest of his days anyway.
You say that, but while it would have lasted us mere mortals, when you have a Premier League lifestyle you don't want it to drop when you're no longer in the Premier League so you'd want to maximise your earnings for as long as possible.
He probably believed he was good enough to be a regular. You don't reach this level as a footballer without massive self belief and confidence.
I had no problem with him going to Man. City.
Him changing his mind 500 times in 2 weeks and giving false hope to the fans I very much did have a problem with.
Lets not be churlish, if he was crap nobody would have given a toss about him leaving.
We supported him through his injury time.
He was certainly our best creative driving midfielder.
That does not excuse this Snakey, two faced , snot gobbling, backstabbing, Bastard for his manner of leaving.
We have lost many class acts over the years, but few have matched this egotistical, lying c*** for his callous, devious, treachery.
Ian Taylor should take him to one side, explain the problem to the twat and then give him a good Kicking.
On that note, a merry Christmas to all the Villiains on the site tonight
Steamer
Then the Champions *I think) wanted him.
Lets not be churlish, if he was crap nobody would have given a toss about him leaving.
We supported him through his injury time.
He was certainly our best creative driving midfielder.
That does not excuse this Snakey, two faced , snot gobbling, backstabbing, Bastard for his manner of leaving.
We have lost many class acts over the years, but few have matched this egotistical, lying c*** for his callous, devious, treachery.
Ian Taylor should take him to one side, explain the problem to the twat and then give him a good Kicking.
On that note, a merry Christmas to all the Villiains on the site tonight
Steamer
No need for that line to be added mate, agree with Tayls having a chat with him.
Lets not be churlish, if he was crap nobody would have given a toss about him leaving.
We supported him through his injury time.
He was certainly our best creative driving midfielder.
That does not excuse this Snakey, two faced , snot gobbling, backstabbing, Bastard for his manner of leaving.
We have lost many class acts over the years, but few have matched this egotistical, lying c*** for his callous, devious, treachery.
Ian Taylor should take him to one side, explain the problem to the twat and then give him a good Kicking.
On that note, a merry Christmas to all the Villiains on the site tonight
Steamer
No need for that line to be added mate, agree with Tayls having a chat with him.
I'd love to see Tayls give him a right good kicking!
Lets not be churlish, if he was crap nobody would have given a toss about him leaving.
We supported him through his injury time.
He was certainly our best creative driving midfielder.
That does not excuse this Snakey, two faced , snot gobbling, backstabbing, Bastard for his manner of leaving.
We have lost many class acts over the years, but few have matched this egotistical, lying c*** for his callous, devious, treachery.
Ian Taylor should take him to one side, explain the problem to the twat and then give him a good Kicking.
On that note, a merry Christmas to all the Villiains on the site tonight
Steamer
No need for that line to be added mate, agree with Tayls having a chat with him.
I'd love to see Tayls give him a right good kicking!
I'd prefer more of a large number of malicious big brother style digs, a few bruises on the ribcage but no more.
Why are we talking about this ***t? I hope he slips and cracks his pelvis and never plays football again.
What was it we used to say at school? May his ear holes turn to arseholes and shit diorreah down his neck. Or something like that.
Why are we talking about this ***t? I hope he slips and cracks his pelvis and never plays football again.
Haha. I'm inclined to agree.
As others have said, it was the right move for him at the time and take villa out of it, a move we probably all would have made
One thing he did do for us was make sure we got £8m when he did move on when he could've gone for nothing if the new contract wasn't signed
The thing which he got wrong was all the bullshit things that was said at the signing of the deal in January, but how much of that was down to the club telling him to say that to give us all a lift during bad times
The summertime changing of mind was probably genuine, but made the whole situation worse
Not that it would happen or go down well, but I would have him back if it was on the cards
As others have said, it was the right move for him at the time and take villa out of it, a move we probably all would have made
One thing he did do for us was make sure we got £8m when he did move on when he could've gone for nothing if the new contract wasn't signed
The thing which he got wrong was all the bullshit things that was said at the signing of the deal in January, but how much of that was down to the club telling him to say that to give us all a lift during bad times
The summertime changing of mind was probably genuine, but made the whole situation worse
Not that it would happen or go down well, but I would have him back if it was on the cards
After reading through all the vitriol good to read a more balanced not childish comment, he is exactly what we need in our absent midfield.
I'm sure I don't know the full story but the knowing wink was pretty grim in retrospect. Did the club put him up to that video as one of Fox's bright ideas? Who knows. Either way I think if you treat the Aston Villa Football Club with disrespect, it doesn't matter how good you are or were, you can get fucked.
I'm sure I don't know the full story but the knowing wink was pretty grim in retrospect. Did the club put him up to that video as one of Fox's bright ideas? Who knows. Either way I think if you treat the Aston Villa Football Club with disrespect, it doesn't matter how good you are or were, you can get fucked.
100%
If Leeds go up he'll probably end up back there.
If Leeds go up he'll probably end up back there.
If Leeds go up he'll probably end up back there.
That's a good shout. Only problem I see is how will they get the money to pay him as they haven't got a pot to piss in.
Report in the Mirror - Pep Guardiola open to offers for injury-prone Manchester City midfielder Fabian Delph
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/pep-guardiola-open-offers-injury-10586971
Report in the Mirror - Pep Guardiola open to offers for injury-prone Manchester City midfielder Fabian Delph
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/pep-guardiola-open-offers-injury-10586971
I've got an offer for him.
I'll happily throw the c*** in the canal.
Barcodes-bound? Or some other low-level Prem squad.Report in the Mirror - Pep Guardiola open to offers for injury-prone Manchester City midfielder Fabian Delph
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/pep-guardiola-open-offers-injury-10586971
I've got an offer for him.
I'll happily throw the c*** in the canal.
This.
I'd forgotten the snake was even alive.
id love him back here, but the only chance of that happening is that's just fifa 18 , far to good for this league.
the snake thing is rubbish, Villa were going nowhere fast, and a player of that quality, knew he should be at the top.
The club showed itself to be an utter shambles in the months after he left, so for all the snake jibes I threw his way, I can kind of understand why he felt he had to move on.
Still, wouldn't want the prick back at Villa.
I would rather be in the 4th division than have him back.
I would rather be in the 4th division than have him back.
No you wouldn't, that's just silly.
You'd rather Villa were in the fourth division or whatever it's called than have a footballer who used to play football for Aston Villa but left to play for a team years ahead of Villa? I'm no fan of his but he's far better than anything we have at the club now.Agreed, even if at the time it was not good.
I think it will come out that he was pushed overboard rather than jumped ship.
You'd rather Villa were in the fourth division or whatever it's called than have a footballer who used to play football for Aston Villa but left to play for a team years ahead of Villa? I'm no fan of his but he's far better than anything we have at the club now.
I haven't read the recent posts, were people seriously thinking he would even consider returning? I can see him and Milner eventually seeing out their careers at Leeds.
You'd rather Villa were in the fourth division or whatever it's called than have a footballer who used to play football for Aston Villa but left to play for a team years ahead of Villa? I'm no fan of his but he's far better than anything we have at the club now.
I'd rather have lunch with Bono than have Delph back at Villa.
Does anyone know if he's actually 'won' anything whilst at City , i.e. Played enough games to pick up,a medal at the end of any competition? That will tell me whether he made the right decision.
When I went to a Villa Legends night, Tony Morley was well on Delph's side, saying it had been him who wanted to be sure Villa earned a decent amount from his sale. I did wonder if this was known fact in Villa circles or if Morley was being an ex-pro and seeing it from Delph's viewpoint.
The argument falls down for me somewhat when you see the pitiful release clause, which surely had been driven down by the player's representatives and agreed to by a Villa in dire need of a crowd-pleasing announcement, and then all that "I'm staying" cobblers before he pissed off. If he had the club at heart that release clause should have been tens of millions; he must have been pretty sure he was leaving to agree a new contract which would do right by Villa in the first place.
The argument falls down for me somewhat when you see the pitiful release clause, which surely had been driven down by the player's representatives and agreed to by a Villa in dire need of a crowd-pleasing announcement, and then all that "I'm staying" cobblers before he pissed off. If he had the club at heart that release clause should have been tens of millions; he must have been pretty sure he was leaving to agree a new contract which would do right by Villa in the first place.
Yep, in the grand scheme of things they were all with us for a tiny amount of time. I wouldn't bracket Milner in with the other two though. He seemed to conduct himself with a degree of professionalism when he left.
Yep, in the grand scheme of things they were all with us for a tiny amount of time. I wouldn't bracket Milner in with the other two though. He seemed to conduct himself with a degree of professionalism when he left.
Yep, in the grand scheme of things they were all with us for a tiny amount of time. I wouldn't bracket Milner in with the other two though. He seemed to conduct himself with a degree of professionalism when he left.
Milner was a true professional in every way. He was a great servant for us when on loan and after he signed, I would have him back in a shot but I think he will go to Leeds to finish his career
When I went to a Villa Legends night, Tony Morley was well on Delph's side, saying it had been him who wanted to be sure Villa earned a decent amount from his sale. I did wonder if this was known fact in Villa circles or if Morley was being an ex-pro and seeing it from Delph's viewpoint.
The argument falls down for me somewhat when you see the pitiful release clause, which surely had been driven down by the player's representatives and agreed to by a Villa in dire need of a crowd-pleasing announcement, and then all that "I'm staying" cobblers before he pissed off. If he had the club at heart that release clause should have been tens of millions; he must have been pretty sure he was leaving to agree a new contract which would do right by Villa in the first place.
When I went to a Villa Legends night, Tony Morley was well on Delph's side, saying it had been him who wanted to be sure Villa earned a decent amount from his sale. I did wonder if this was known fact in Villa circles or if Morley was being an ex-pro and seeing it from Delph's viewpoint.
The argument falls down for me somewhat when you see the pitiful release clause, which surely had been driven down by the player's representatives and agreed to by a Villa in dire need of a crowd-pleasing announcement, and then all that "I'm staying" cobblers before he pissed off. If he had the club at heart that release clause should have been tens of millions; he must have been pretty sure he was leaving to agree a new contract which would do right by Villa in the first place.
I'd have rather he left on a free transfer tbh. We lost Vlaar the same summer on a free when we could've got 3-4m for him and in any case Benteke provided most of the summer transfer fund which we spectacularly wasted on likes of Gestede and Adama.
He should've just left rather than changing his mind five times in a week.
The lesson, it would seem, is that any player torn on the issue of whether to remain or take up a better offer should just bail the first chance he gets. Don't give us a second thought.
Worth remembering, the next time one of our better players is in demand.
When I went to a Villa Legends night, Tony Morley was well on Delph's side, saying it had been him who wanted to be sure Villa earned a decent amount from his sale. I did wonder if this was known fact in Villa circles or if Morley was being an ex-pro and seeing it from Delph's viewpoint.
The argument falls down for me somewhat when you see the pitiful release clause, which surely had been driven down by the player's representatives and agreed to by a Villa in dire need of a crowd-pleasing announcement, and then all that "I'm staying" cobblers before he pissed off. If he had the club at heart that release clause should have been tens of millions; he must have been pretty sure he was leaving to agree a new contract which would do right by Villa in the first place.
I'd have rather he left on a free transfer tbh. We lost Vlaar the same summer on a free when we could've got 3-4m for him and in any case Benteke provided most of the summer transfer fund which we spectacularly wasted on likes of Gestede and Adama.
He should've just left rather than changing his mind five times in a week.
I wouldn't have. Very old news now, but he did us a favour signing that contract as we got money for him. Come that summer, he should have just kept his mouth shut and seen how the Manchester City situation played out. If he had done that, I wouldn't have had any qualms with him moving.
As I've said the 8m to me was neither here or there given the rubbish we signed.
I've said it before, but I have it on pretty good authority (Man City not Villa) that Delph went because Villa wanted him off the wage bill and asked him to take the offer.
I'd take him back if we get promoted. Would walk into our midfield.
Is never take Fabian Hodge Delph back. The ship has sailed with that c***. Fuck him and his career.
If day turned into night, MP's were going round speaking truthfully and there wasn't a sale on at DFS and somehow we became champions of everything and snake crawled on his belly down the centre lane of M6 all the way to Villa Park and begged us to have him I will tell him to f**k off all the way back to where he came from.
I'd take him back in a heartbeat.
[/quoI'd take himI'd take him back in a heartbeat.
Never. Not after the way he left. It was horrible.
With you on this one 100%I've said it before, but I have it on pretty good authority (Man City not Villa) that Delph went because Villa wanted him off the wage bill and asked him to take the offer.
I'd take him back if we get promoted. Would walk into our midfield.
I’d take him back too. The club was a mess around that time and we’re suffering from its legacy but we’re on our way back. I’m sure there’s a lot more to the Delph transfer that meets the eye so I’m not gonna demonise him. If he become available and we’re back in the PL where we belong, then why not?
I would have him back. But as Joey off of Friends would say, "it is a moo point".
Yep and me.With you on this one 100%I've said it before, but I have it on pretty good authority (Man City not Villa) that Delph went because Villa wanted him off the wage bill and asked him to take the offer.
I'd take him back if we get promoted. Would walk into our midfield.
I’d take him back too. The club was a mess around that time and we’re suffering from its legacy but we’re on our way back. I’m sure there’s a lot more to the Delph transfer that meets the eye so I’m not gonna demonise him. If he become available and we’re back in the PL where we belong, then why not?
I've said it before, but I have it on pretty good authority (Man City not Villa) that Delph went because Villa wanted him off the wage bill and asked him to take the offer.
I'd take him back if we get promoted. Would walk into our midfield.
Definetely have him back, Villa were a sinking ship and at the time he was playing really well, players want to win things and earn money whilst doing it.
by a distance he has been the best player for us in the last 6 years.
Definetely have him back, Villa were a sinking ship and at the time he was playing really well, players want to win things and earn money whilst doing it.
by a distance he has been the best player for us in the last 6 years.
I'm not sure about that. Benteke maybe.
Delph, Whelan, Lansbury or Jedinak?
Delph, Whelan, Lansbury or Jedinak?
Delph over all three together.
There's a fair amount of revisionism here over Delph.Delph is another Villa player who largely failed to live up to his undoubted talent. I always felt that there was a really good player there and - indeed - he showed it for a while. My view was - and still is - that he'd have made an excellent left wingback or attacking fullback, and I could quite easily see him and Elmo being two really good attacking fullbacks for us ... not that he's coming back.
He was at the Villa for six years - for three and a half of them he barely played. He only really looked good in his final two seasons in the worst Villa team in living memory.
Delph, Whelan, Lansbury or Jedinak?This is like comparing compost with manure.
Delph is and was a cracking player, along with Benteke one of the few bright spots in a half decade of misery. His early years with us were blighted because of injury, youthful impetuousness and O'Neill not knowing what to do with him. Once he established himself I thought he showed he was a class act. As for the way he left, well I think a lot of people are acting like immature jilted boyfriends over that one and it's quite sad and amusing at the same time. In any case it seems Villa pretty much forced him out to get him off the payroll, so quite why people have such a downer on him is a mystery to me. I'd love to get him and Benteke back if we ever get back up, maybe Albrighton at a push, but Westwood and Cleverly can fuck off.
Delph is and was a cracking player, along with Benteke one of the few bright spots in a half decade of misery. His early years with us were blighted because of injury, youthful impetuousness and O'Neill not knowing what to do with him. Once he established himself I thought he showed he was a class act. As for the way he left, well I think a lot of people are acting like immature jilted boyfriends over that one and it's quite sad and amusing at the same time. In any case it seems Villa pretty much forced him out to get him off the payroll, so quite why people have such a downer on him is a mystery to me. I'd love to get him and Benteke back if we ever get back up, maybe Albrighton at a push, but Westwood and Cleverly can fuck off.
His goals against the Bitters, twice, and at Wembley still make my tummy tickle.
I've said it before, but I have it on pretty good authority (Man City not Villa) that Delph went because Villa wanted him off the wage bill and asked him to take the offer.
I'd take him back if we get promoted. Would walk into our midfield.
I've said it before, but I have it on pretty good authority (Man City not Villa) that Delph went because Villa wanted him off the wage bill and asked him to take the offer.
I'd take him back if we get promoted. Would walk into our midfield.
I've said it before, but I have it on pretty good authority (Man City not Villa) that Delph went because Villa wanted him off the wage bill and asked him to take the offer.
I'd take him back if we get promoted. Would walk into our midfield.
Pelligrini said there was more to that deal than was being reported, so you could be right.
Or it could just be a manager covering his player.
Rumour on the internet is now taken as truth?
I'd certainly take a huge amount of abuse on my shoulders to protect my former employers who'd put me in that situation and stay silent.
If you look at his comments when he initially agreed to stay that summer, he spoke about the pride he had in captaining the club and plenty of other stuff that was way OTT if he was merely looking to get Citeh to come back with a higher wage offer.
It looked like we had signed his replacement (Gueye) before he was actually off too, so I could see why the club might have been keen to cash in.
Only issue there is Gueye was rubbish for us.
If you look at his comments when he initially agreed to stay that summer, he spoke about the pride he had in captaining the club and plenty of other stuff that was way OTT if he was merely looking to get Citeh to come back with a higher wage offer.
It looked like we had signed his replacement (Gueye) before he was actually off too, so I could see why the club might have been keen to cash in.
Only issue there is Gueye was rubbish for us.
Gueye wasn't rubbish, he did the exact same things that he's getting plaudits for at Everton, but apparently it's impossible to be a good player in an utterly crap team.
Everton took a punt, seeing as the price was £7.5 million. Which normally buys you 1/5 of a Bolasie in today's crazy mixed up world.
But he was rubbish for us, and if he had let the head drop at Goodison as much as he did at VP they would have bombed him out pronto. In recent years, Benteke, Delph, Kodjia and -going back a bit further- McInally and Platt in their final seasons, all played in pretty dire Villa sides. They didn't let it detract from their own individual performances.
It could be that the 12 months he had here helped bring him up to speed with English football, and I don't doubt that a combination of better players + Koeman rather than Sherwood or Erik Black would be preferable.
But I don't recall too many around here (or elsewhere) bemoaning his loss when he bailed at the first possible opportunity.
Frankly this is load of bollocks and as intelligent people I am surprised that you guys are peddling it. I would be height of madness to retain your position in the premier league and at the start of next season get rid of your best player just to reduce wage bill.I've said it before, but I have it on pretty good authority (Man City not Villa) that Delph went because Villa wanted him off the wage bill and asked him to take the offer.
I'd take him back if we get promoted. Would walk into our midfield.
Pelligrini said there was more to that deal than was being reported, so you could be right.
Or it could just be a manager covering his player.
I've said it before, but I have it on pretty good authority (Man City not Villa) that Delph went because Villa wanted him off the wage bill and asked him to take the offer.
I'd take him back if we get promoted. Would walk into our midfield.
Pelligrini said there was more to that deal than was being reported, so you could be right.
Or it could just be a manager covering his player.
Everton took a punt, seeing as the price was £7.5 million. Which normally buys you 1/5 of a Bolasie in today's crazy mixed up world.
But he was rubbish for us, and if he had let the head drop at Goodison as much as he did at VP they would have bombed him out pronto. In recent years, Benteke, Delph, Kodjia and -going back a bit further- McInally and Platt in their final seasons, all played in pretty dire Villa sides. They didn't let it detract from their own individual performances.
It could be that the 12 months he had here helped bring him up to speed with English football, and I don't doubt that a combination of better players + Koeman rather than Sherwood or Erik Black would be preferable.
But I don't recall too many around here (or elsewhere) bemoaning his loss when he bailed at the first possible opportunity.
I thought he was wank. Weak as piss, and going forward made Westwood look like Platini.
Frankly this is load of bollocks and as intelligent people I am surprised that you guys are peddling it. I would be height of madness to retain your position in the premier league and at the start of next season get rid of your best player just to reduce wage bill.I've said it before, but I have it on pretty good authority (Man City not Villa) that Delph went because Villa wanted him off the wage bill and asked him to take the offer.
I'd take him back if we get promoted. Would walk into our midfield.
Pelligrini said there was more to that deal than was being reported, so you could be right.
Or it could just be a manager covering his player.
Frankly this is load of bollocks and as intelligent people I am surprised that you guys are peddling it. I would be height of madness to retain your position in the premier league and at the start of next season get rid of your best player just to reduce wage bill.I've said it before, but I have it on pretty good authority (Man City not Villa) that Delph went because Villa wanted him off the wage bill and asked him to take the offer.
I'd take him back if we get promoted. Would walk into our midfield.
Pelligrini said there was more to that deal than was being reported, so you could be right.
Or it could just be a manager covering his player.
I guess that is the difference between an Opta player (didn't Westwood feature ridiculously high in ball retention stats one season?) and judging the evidence of your own eyes game after game.
He was good for Everton last season, the bit I seen of him. Often getting the ball and setting the tempo for them.
He was rubbish for us though. He wasn't the only one that year. But he didn't stand out as a shining beacon of hope: A player that looked automatically destined for bigger and better things.
But not first hand experience, by the sounds of it?
Not digging out any of our overseas fans, as most of them on here are knowledgeable. But that reads like a summary based purely on the stats Steve Walsh used to justify the signing. But I am envious of anyone who didn't have to sit through game after game of that muck, truth be told.
Stats can be used creatively enough to suggest Heskey was better than Carew. In the end, players are remembered for their impact with us. Not one attribute singled out on a spreadsheet.
NRC was also excellent at winning the ball- before he invariably tripped over his own feet and presented it back to the opposition. Gueye wasn't that deeply flawed with the ball at his feet, but he wasn't too clever either. When we needed leadership or someone setting the tempo in that side, we didn't get it from him. The only one who came close that year was Ayew. Which is odd, when it comes from your mercurial forward. Rather than your DM/ CM.
It often felt like sides didn't even need to break out of third gear to beat us. We might have started bright occasionally, but when the opposition played with any pace or purpose, we melted in the centre of the park. That's not totally on Gueye but he should carry a fair proportion of the blame.
From about November onwards he looked like he just couldn't be fcuked with it.
So indecisive, rather than a rotter.
The club must have meant something for him to even have a decision to make.
Players in far better Villa teams than him were clearing out their lockers as soon as interest from the top 4/ abroad came in.
With a few honourable exceptions, generally the better the player the quicker they have been to scarper.
With a few honourable exceptions, generally the better the player the quicker they have been to scarper.
With pretty much no exceptions, the boards at the time were more than happy to take the cash, no doubt.
So indecisive, rather than a rotter.
The club must have meant something for him to even have a decision to make.
Players in far better Villa teams than him were clearing out their lockers as soon as interest from the top 4/ abroad came in.
Indeed.
It's hard to be angry with someone who agonised and subsequently made an arse of himself nationally over a decision to leave us in the pomp of our ineptitude, or go to mega wealthy title contenders.
I wouldn't have made that mistake, because I'd have already been gone.
So indecisive, rather than a rotter.
The club must have meant something for him to even have a decision to make.
Players in far better Villa teams than him were clearing out their lockers as soon as interest from the top 4/ abroad came in.
Indeed.
It's hard to be angry with someone who agonised and subsequently made an arse of himself nationally over a decision to leave us in the pomp of our ineptitude, or go to mega wealthy title contenders.
I wouldn't have made that mistake, because I'd have already been gone.
I don't believe for a second that he agonised over the decision other than a worry about how it looked.
So what we're basically saying is that at best he's a moron and at worst he's a scumbag?
While I understand his reasons, part of the reaction from Villa fans was.. well it just hurt.What an excellent summary.
We were in the final death throws of truly awful years at Villa. After standing by Delph after his injury we had, for a brief moment in time, some fucking hope.
We had a great Wembley game against Liverpool things FINALLY seemed to be turning around, then the news of Man City's interest and we all assumed he was gone, then a miracle, someone showed loyalty, we were giddy, money didn't always talk! Maybe things were looking up for us as a club again!
Then his U Turn and he was off. We were all reminded that in fact things were not going to get better. He bore the brunt of a lot of that anger and frustration. I dont blame fans for the way they reacted and I dont blame him for the decision he made. It was just, well it sucked, all of it.
While I understand his reasons, part of the reaction from Villa fans was.. well it just hurt.What an excellent summary.
We were in the final death throws of truly awful years at Villa. After standing by Delph after his injury we had, for a brief moment in time, some fucking hope.
We had a great Wembley game against Liverpool things FINALLY seemed to be turning around, then the news of Man City's interest and we all assumed he was gone, then a miracle, someone showed loyalty, we were giddy, money didn't always talk! Maybe things were looking up for us as a club again!
Then his U Turn and he was off. We were all reminded that in fact things were not going to get better. He bore the brunt of a lot of that anger and frustration. I dont blame fans for the way they reacted and I dont blame him for the decision he made. It was just, well it sucked, all of it.
Great stuff from Chelts.
I'm not angry at Delph moving, blimey going from the state we were in to Man. City was far more of an obvious move than when Milner did it.
What I've always objected to is him about to go and then changing his mind a week later and then coming out with "this is my club" comments. Sherwood felt confident enough to come out and praise him for that so to then decide to go up for the medical 7 days later totally undermined an inexperienced and soon to be out of his depth manager and made us a laughing stock.
Given he was pretty close to Lerner I do wonder if he was holding off from moving as Randy had told him a takeover was going to happen...and when it didn't it became easier for him to move.
I'd have rather he hadn't signed the deal and just left on a free. Yes we'd have lost money (our fault for not starting contract talks earlier) but Vlaar went on a free and we could've easily got 5-10m for him given how well he played in the World cup.
With a few honourable exceptions, generally the better the player the quicker they have been to scarper.
I was speaking to a scout the other day who reckoned Delph had the chance to come back to Villa or the Albion this summer but turned us both down.
What’s more crazy is he’d rather play under the attacking style of Pep than our, erm way of playing under Bruce. What a foolish lad he is.I was speaking to a scout the other day who reckoned Delph had the chance to come back to Villa or the Albion this summer but turned us both down.
does the lad know what he’s missing out on
he was lining up with De Bruyne on Saturday when could have been alongside Glenn Whelan
I was speaking to a scout the other day who reckoned Delph had the chance to come back to Villa or the Albion this summer but turned us both down.
IMO Milner/young/barry were much bigger losses but him going tipped us over the edge.
IMO Milner/young/barry were much bigger losses but him going tipped us over the edge.
Bigger losses and better players. I'm amazed we're even talking about him at this stage.
Great stuff from Chelts.
I'm not angry at Delph moving, blimey going from the state we were in to Man. City was far more of an obvious move than when Milner did it.
What I've always objected to is him about to go and then changing his mind a week later and then coming out with "this is my club" comments. Sherwood felt confident enough to come out and praise him for that so to then decide to go up for the medical 7 days later totally undermined an inexperienced and soon to be out of his depth manager and made us a laughing stock.
Given he was pretty close to Lerner I do wonder if he was holding off from moving as Randy had told him a takeover was going to happen...and when it didn't it became easier for him to move.
I'd have rather he hadn't signed the deal and just left on a free. Yes we'd have lost money (our fault for not starting contract talks earlier) but Vlaar went on a free and we could've easily got 5-10m for him given how well he played in the World cup.
IMO Milner/young/barry were much bigger losses but him going tipped us over the edge.
Bigger losses and better players. I'm amazed we're even talking about him at this stage.
I reckon any of our former players who were starting regularly for the team at the top of league would be being talked about.
He was a better player than Marc Albrighton and was being discussed quite a lot a couple of years ago.
He comes across well in the Amazon Man City documentary.
I wonder whether Bruce is thinking of introducing a lecture theatre at Bodymore Heath.
He comes across well in the Amazon Man City documentary.
I wonder whether Bruce is thinking of introducing a lecture theatre at Bodymore Heath.
Not seen the documentary yet but noticed he was in Southgate's management group with England too, despite being a peripheral player, so figured he must be a good bloke. Not a popular opinion here but...
His hand was forced at the time.
We didn't push Delph out at all. The time line from when the contract talks were on that winter are important.
His agent advised against him signing a new deal. I don't blame him. At the time we were suffering the worst of Lambert, looking in a relegation scrap and he could have done a fortune in signing on fee if he went on a free.
Delph took his captaincy responsibilities seriously and didn't want to screw us over after standing by him through his injuries. It was Delph who insisted on signing against his agents wishes and who suggested a buyout clause of what we paid for him. His agent was flabbergasted that he signed the contract.
As things had been all bad news the club suggested that maybe he does an announcement they could play on the big screens to bring a feelgood factor back. Unfortunately he went a bit over the top with his comments (he talks too much).
When the Citeh bid came in he was conflicted on whether to take the move. Again, unfortunately, he started talking before definitively making a decision.
He started off thinking it was the right move. Then felt bad at leaving his teammates in the lurch. And was constantly kept aware of the big changes we were making via the transfer window. So he changed his mind. And started talking about it again.
Citeh triggered his buyout clause again and offered more money. By now he was thinking he had made a mistake so changed his mind again. It is why he looked so thoroughly miserable when he signed for them.
The club didn't begrudge his move given what he did in the January but the real piss take was when he couldn't make our trip to Portugal whilst having these doubts because his wife was due to give birth (remember the Brummie daughter comments) yet was able to fuck off to Australia on their pre season tour before said child had exited the womb.
He isn't all bad and did some things he didn't have to in our favour. He was genuinely conflicted about the move. But it wouldn't have been half as bad if he had kept his trap shut.
Suggestions we pushed him out of the door are a load of nonsense though.
His hand wasn't forced, it's all covered here.We didn't push Delph out at all. The time line from when the contract talks were on that winter are important.
His agent advised against him signing a new deal. I don't blame him. At the time we were suffering the worst of Lambert, looking in a relegation scrap and he could have done a fortune in signing on fee if he went on a free.
Delph took his captaincy responsibilities seriously and didn't want to screw us over after standing by him through his injuries. It was Delph who insisted on signing against his agents wishes and who suggested a buyout clause of what we paid for him. His agent was flabbergasted that he signed the contract.
As things had been all bad news the club suggested that maybe he does an announcement they could play on the big screens to bring a feelgood factor back. Unfortunately he went a bit over the top with his comments (he talks too much).
When the Citeh bid came in he was conflicted on whether to take the move. Again, unfortunately, he started talking before definitively making a decision.
He started off thinking it was the right move. Then felt bad at leaving his teammates in the lurch. And was constantly kept aware of the big changes we were making via the transfer window. So he changed his mind. And started talking about it again.
Citeh triggered his buyout clause again and offered more money. By now he was thinking he had made a mistake so changed his mind again. It is why he looked so thoroughly miserable when he signed for them.
The club didn't begrudge his move given what he did in the January but the real piss take was when he couldn't make our trip to Portugal whilst having these doubts because his wife was due to give birth (remember the Brummie daughter comments) yet was able to fuck off to Australia on their pre season tour before said child had exited the womb.
He isn't all bad and did some things he didn't have to in our favour. He was genuinely conflicted about the move. But it wouldn't have been half as bad if he had kept his trap shut.
Suggestions we pushed him out of the door are a load of nonsense though.
I do think he handled the situation badly, but we got 7 million (i think) for him when he could have run his contract down. We were in a shit situation and Man City were a top team. I don't get the hatred
His hand wasn't forced, it's all covered here.We didn't push Delph out at all. The time line from when the contract talks were on that winter are important.
His agent advised against him signing a new deal. I don't blame him. At the time we were suffering the worst of Lambert, looking in a relegation scrap and he could have done a fortune in signing on fee if he went on a free.
Delph took his captaincy responsibilities seriously and didn't want to screw us over after standing by him through his injuries. It was Delph who insisted on signing against his agents wishes and who suggested a buyout clause of what we paid for him. His agent was flabbergasted that he signed the contract.
As things had been all bad news the club suggested that maybe he does an announcement they could play on the big screens to bring a feelgood factor back. Unfortunately he went a bit over the top with his comments (he talks too much).
When the Citeh bid came in he was conflicted on whether to take the move. Again, unfortunately, he started talking before definitively making a decision.
He started off thinking it was the right move. Then felt bad at leaving his teammates in the lurch. And was constantly kept aware of the big changes we were making via the transfer window. So he changed his mind. And started talking about it again.
Citeh triggered his buyout clause again and offered more money. By now he was thinking he had made a mistake so changed his mind again. It is why he looked so thoroughly miserable when he signed for them.
The club didn't begrudge his move given what he did in the January but the real piss take was when he couldn't make our trip to Portugal whilst having these doubts because his wife was due to give birth (remember the Brummie daughter comments) yet was able to fuck off to Australia on their pre season tour before said child had exited the womb.
He isn't all bad and did some things he didn't have to in our favour. He was genuinely conflicted about the move. But it wouldn't have been half as bad if he had kept his trap shut.
Suggestions we pushed him out of the door are a load of nonsense though.
The video was against Bournemouth, I think?
The video was against Bournemouth, I think?
"Massive opportunity that I couldn't refuse. History and ambition drew me here. And I know what it takes to succeed. I'm here to achieve something special"
The only people who give a shit were us fans. He will have long forgotten it and no doubt doesn't regret it one bit. Why would he?Exactly. It shouldn't come as a shock that Villa means less to him than it does to us.
Have we got a video?
This insincere bullshit that new signings come out with is vomit inducing. Why do clubs do it? Surely no one is taken in by this utter bunkum any longer, let alone someone with a track record like Delph’sAgree, who are they trying to kid.
Boring club welcomes has been player. They suit one another.
Thirty pieces of silver a day.
He's only 29, so still got a few years in the tank.
I've drawn a line under what happened with us.
If we're honest he's still a good player.
Good signing and will do well for them.
He's only 29, so still got a few years in the tank.
I've drawn a line under what happened with us.
If we're honest he's still a good player.
Good signing and will do well for them.
Would have snatched your hand off just 6 weeks ago but not now. The likes of Luiz and Marvelous are far more exciting signings and very different to the average or last pay day players we’ve been used to. Long may it continue!
Didnt Delph sign a contract extension so that Villa would get some money for him?Yeah, read a summary from Cheltenham Lion a few pages up.
I might be wrong :-\
Didnt Delph sign a contract extension so that Villa would get some money for him?Yeah, read a summary from Cheltenham Lion a few pages up.
I might be wrong :-\
Yeah, read a summary from Cheltenham Lion a few pages up.Missed that - pretty much summed up my feelings at the time. Not got the same animosity as some for him, and would gladly have had him back. He's a good player and IMO a decent chap. Think he'll do a good job at Everton.
Delph or McGinn?
Delph or McGinn?
Behave.
A player in the twilight of his career with the moral backbone of a jellyfish.
Or our very own modern day Braveheart with his best years ahead of him?
Delph or McGinn?
Behave.
A player in the twilight of his career with the moral backbone of a jellyfish.
Or our very own modern day Braveheart with his best years ahead of him?
Exactly my point.
Delph and Grealish had a good understanding and linked well together especially in the Liverpool semi, so he would have been a decent signing for us. Still I can understand there is bad feeling among some and I suppose it doesn't fit in with our new philosophy.
Delph has joined Walcott in the former footballer's retirement home in Merseyside.Good point well made.
Delph and Grealish had a good understanding and linked well together especially in the Liverpool semi, so he would have been a decent signing for us. Still I can understand there is bad feeling among some and I suppose it doesn't fit in with our new philosophy.
The problem I always had with Delph was he only turned up for 45 minutes, normally the 2nd half. Now that may have been down to instruction, tactics or lack of them but he was such a great player that could drive the team forward, it was strange he only got into top gear for part of the game.
John McGinn he ain't.
Delph and Grealish had a good understanding and linked well together especially in the Liverpool semi, so he would have been a decent signing for us. Still I can understand there is bad feeling among some and I suppose it doesn't fit in with our new philosophy.
The problem I always had with Delph was he only turned up for 45 minutes, normally the 2nd half. Now that may have been down to instruction, tactics or lack of them but he was such a great player that could drive the team forward, it was strange he only got into top gear for part of the game.
John McGinn he ain't.
He should've been but a nasty injury when he first arrived and then a club going backwards with twats like McLeish and Lambert in charge meant he never came close to being the player he should've been.
He should've been but a nasty injury when he first arrived and then a club going backwards with twats like McLeish and Lambert in charge meant he never came close to being the player he should've been.
At one stage he was genuinely in the running for one of the worst midfielders we ever had. I have a memory of Delph being booed off in a few games under Lambert when he was a complete passenger. His efforts under MON, Houllier and McLeish, I can't remember anything from him, did he go on loan at one stage?
Not sure what turned his career around at Villa Park, injuries clearing up and stopping kamikaze tackles helped, but he was a very good player for us in a poor side under Lambert/Sherwood. West Brom cup quarter final stands out. Good signing for Everton. We have McGinn and Hourihane for his position now so not one for us.