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Heroes & Villains => Other Football => Topic started by: Rudy Can't Fail on May 29, 2012, 01:13:28 PM

Title: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on May 29, 2012, 01:13:28 PM
As nothing is happening, let's have your predictions for the four vacant PL managerial positions:

Aston Villa

Chelsea

Liverpool

West Brom
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: TaxDodger on May 29, 2012, 01:15:18 PM
Villa: Lambert

Chelsea: Di Matteo
 
Liverpool: Martinez

West Brom: Ranieri
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Concrete John on May 29, 2012, 01:15:41 PM
Aston Villa - Poyet

Chelsea - RDM on 1 year deal

Liverpool - Martinez

West Brom - Hughton
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: D.boy on May 29, 2012, 01:20:22 PM
Aston Villa - Lambert

Chelsea - RDM

Liverpool - Nick Griffin

West Brom - Hughton
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: N'ZMAV on May 29, 2012, 01:20:41 PM
Villa: Paul Lambert

Chelsea: Didier Deschamps
 
Liverpool: Roberto Martinez

West Brom: Chris Hughton

Norwich: Steve Bruce

Birmingham City: Steven Carr.... (LOL)

Wigan: Lee Clark
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: dave.woodhall on May 29, 2012, 01:24:13 PM
The order they're appointed in will be interesting.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: UK Redsox on May 29, 2012, 01:26:28 PM
Villa - Lambo

Chelsea - RDM (with Pep to take over for 2013/14)

The Klan - Martinez

Bagpuss - Ranieri

Delia City - Bruce

Whelan's Ego Athletic - Lee Clark
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: not3bad on May 29, 2012, 01:27:51 PM
So people still think Martinez will go to Liverppol, even after today's reports?
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Irreverent ad on May 29, 2012, 01:28:18 PM
Aston Villa - Benitez

Chelsea - RDM

Liverpool - AVB

West Brom - Hughton
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: UK Redsox on May 29, 2012, 01:31:03 PM
So people still think Martinez will go to Liverppol, even after today's reports?

What reports ?


EDIT - Do you mean reports such as this ?

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4343542/Roberto-Martinez-to-snub-Liverpool-next-up-Brendan-Rodgers.html
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: not3bad on May 29, 2012, 01:36:32 PM
Well, yeah, only rumour and hearsay but reported from several places.  Could be wrong of course.  Never know with some much bull flying about.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on May 29, 2012, 01:39:09 PM
Aston Villa - RDM

Chelsea - Guardiola

Liverpool - Martinez

West Brom - Hughton
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Hookeysmith on May 29, 2012, 01:45:53 PM
AVFC - Poyet / Wilkins

WBA - Hughton

Chelski - RDM

KKK - Van Gaal

Wigan - Martinez

Blues - McCarthy
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: UK Redsox on May 29, 2012, 01:46:07 PM
Going by our predictions so far, there's no real consensus on any appointment yet
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Aston Manor on May 29, 2012, 01:50:30 PM
Villa - Lambert

Liverpool - Capello

WBA - Hughton

Chelsea - Di Matteo



Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Concrete John on May 29, 2012, 01:50:39 PM
Hughton to WBA looks to me quite a popular prediction!
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: joe_c on May 29, 2012, 01:53:30 PM
Maybe they should adopt the US college draft system whereby the worst team gets first dibs on any available manager. I can almost picture Pep Guardiola's thousand yard stare as he's introduced to our current first choice back four.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: German James on May 29, 2012, 02:00:01 PM
Aston Villa and Liverpool: Martinez/Lambert/Benitez timeshare arrangement, first one to have a crack to be decided on the prevailing whim of the clubs' supporters at 12:00 on 18 August 2012, and thereafter reviewed weekly by Sir Alex Ferguson.

Chelsea: Abramovich+stooge

West Brom: Some bloke.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: The Laughing Policeman on May 29, 2012, 02:05:54 PM
Villa   RDM 
L'pool Martinez
Chelsea any deluded fool that thinks he will be in charge.
Baggies  Hughton
SHA   TSM mark2.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: mikeb1982 on May 29, 2012, 02:07:31 PM
Villa: Poyet
Chelsea: RDM
Baggies: Hughton
Noses: McCarthy
Liverpool: Ian Rush
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: AvFc4eVeR on May 29, 2012, 02:13:15 PM
Villa AVB
Liverpool Rodgers
Chelsea RDM
Baggies Ranieri
Swansea Hughton
SHA Craig Levein
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: N'ZMAV on May 29, 2012, 02:19:55 PM
Villa: Fergie's recommendation...
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: KevinGage on May 29, 2012, 02:20:31 PM
Villa:  Sidney Youngblood

Racist FxxC's:  David Duke

Chelsea:  Quentin Crisp

WBA:  Rear Admiral Sir George Cockburn
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: James on May 29, 2012, 02:21:45 PM
Aston Villa - Somebody not yet linked

Liverpool - RDM (unless he goes to Lazio)

Chelski - Lampard/Terry combo short term, Guardiola to come!

Boggies - Hughton

B-Lose - Someone desperate

Wigan - Martinez

Swansea - Rodgers

Norwich - Lambert

Or maybe none of the above, I'm very much NITK!  :D
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: tomd2103 on May 29, 2012, 02:21:55 PM
Villa - RDM

Chelsea - Capello

Liverpool - Martinez

West Brom - Hughton

Wigan - Holloway

Blues - "Magic" Mick McCarthy
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 29, 2012, 02:25:12 PM
Villa: Pep Guardiola

Chelsea: Sam Allardyce

Liverpool: Kevin Keegan

Bitter Birds: McLeish
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Bren'd on May 29, 2012, 02:26:29 PM
Villa - Martinez
Chelsea - John Terry
Liverpool - John Bishop
Baggies -  Chris Hughton
Blues - Dave Whelan
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: DeKuip on May 29, 2012, 02:29:00 PM
Villa - Martinez
Lpool - Van Gaal
Albion - Gary Smith
Wigan - Fernando Hierro
Chelsea - RDM
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: olaftab on May 29, 2012, 02:48:21 PM
Aston Villa  Lambert

Chelsea  Tim Lovejoy

Liverpool  Jimmy Tarbuck

West Brom  Adrian  Chiles
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: TheSandman on May 29, 2012, 03:08:54 PM
Villa - Martinez
Chelsea - Di Matteo
Liverpool - Capello
West Brom - Hughton
Wigan - Lee Clark
Blues - Somebody Shit
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: not3bad on May 29, 2012, 03:09:08 PM
West Brom: Some bloke.

I'll go with that.

Unless it's a laydee!!
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Damo70 on May 29, 2012, 03:29:09 PM
Liverpool - Van Gaal

Villa - Martinez

Albion - Hughton

Chelsea - Guardiola

Wigan - Bruce

Noses -  McCarthy
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: The Left Side on May 29, 2012, 04:11:08 PM
Villa - AVB - with a name like that it is destiny

Albion - Hughton

Chelsea - Guardiola

Liverpool - Martinez
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Holy Trinity on May 29, 2012, 04:30:54 PM
Villa: Paul Lambert

Chelsea: Didier Deschamps
 
Liverpool: Roberto Martinez

West Brom: Chris Hughton

Norwich: Steve Bruce

Birmingham City: Steven Carr.... (LOL)

Wigan: Lee Clark

not a million miles away i feel

i reckon Chelsea will get redknapp or capello and blues will get mick mac but the others will remain the same
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Matt C on May 29, 2012, 04:32:45 PM
Villa - Martinez
Liverpool - Rodgers
Chelsea - RDM for a year while they wait for Guardiola
West Brom - Hughton
Swansea - Lee Clark
Wigan - Steve Bruce
Blose - enter Mad Mick
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: l_mckay on May 29, 2012, 05:20:45 PM
Aston Villa  Lambert

Chelsea  Di Matteo

Liverpool  Rodgers

West Brom  Hughton
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Californian Villain on May 29, 2012, 05:29:08 PM
Villa - Gareth Southgate

Albion - Simon Grayson

Chelsea - Fabio Capello

Liverpool - Brendon Rodgers
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: eastie on May 29, 2012, 05:37:38 PM
Liverpool- rodgers

West brom- hughton

Blues- mcarthy

Chelsea- van gaal

Villa- lambert/martinez

Norwich - mackay

Swansea- lee clark

Wigan- steve bruce
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: FrankyH on May 29, 2012, 05:39:39 PM
President of FIFA when Sepp Blatter retires  -   Dave Whelan
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: ozzjim on May 29, 2012, 05:42:55 PM

Aston Villa - Poyet

Chelsea - Blanc

Liverpool - Martinez

West Brom - Hughton

Wigwam - Bruce
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: ChrissyPrice on May 29, 2012, 06:20:04 PM
Us-Graham Turner

Them-Garry Pendrey

Boggies-Bobby Gould

Liverpool-Graham Souness
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: maidstonevillain on May 29, 2012, 06:27:37 PM




Wigan - Holloway



Interesting one that. Hadn't crossed my mind, but can see it happening.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: brian green on May 29, 2012, 07:43:06 PM
Aston Villa   OGS

Confederate Hooded Wizards of the Deep South     Nick Griffin (manager)  Max Mosley (DOF)

Chelsea    Capello

Tescobaggies    Hughton

Curlytails FC   Steve Bruce

Whelan FC      Martinez

Swanshurst Park FC   Rodgers

Delia's Hotpots    Lambert



Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Ad@m on May 29, 2012, 08:00:38 PM
Well the bookies have it that Martinez wont be at any of the clubs looking for managers currently.

A bitter little part of me hopes he ends up stuck at Wigan.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: darren woolley on May 29, 2012, 09:13:46 PM
Villa - Lambert
Chelsea - RDM
Liverpool - Rodgers
Albion - Hughton
SHA - Bruce again.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: hawkeye on May 29, 2012, 09:40:03 PM
Chelsea John Terry

Scouse - Ken Dodd

Albion- Benny from Crossroads

Villa - Ian holloway
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: brian green on May 29, 2012, 09:51:03 PM
Not far out Hawks.   Three out of four.   Ken Dodd has ruled himself out of the King Kenny of the Kop II job.   By all accounts Ken Dodd's Dad's dogs dead.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: dave.woodhall on May 29, 2012, 09:53:11 PM
Us - Wolfie
Stripey lot - Eric Clapton
Livpool - Badgeman
Chelsea - Tim Lovejoy
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: ozzjim on May 29, 2012, 10:35:23 PM
Well the bookies have it that Martinez wont be at any of the clubs looking for managers currently.

A bitter little part of me hopes he ends up stuck at Wigan.

Oh if he stays I hope they are relegated.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: The Man With A Stick on May 30, 2012, 12:23:24 PM
I can't believe Ranieri opted for Monaco over Smethwick.  The man's truly lost his marbles.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on May 30, 2012, 03:05:37 PM
I can't believe Ranieri opted for Monaco over Smethwick.  The man's truly lost his marbles.

He obviously doesn't know about the price of a pint in the Black Country.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: not3bad on May 30, 2012, 04:48:02 PM
So how many people guessed Rogers for Liverpool?
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Virgil Caine on May 30, 2012, 05:18:41 PM
Hughton for Swansea? or will they go back for old boy Martinez- they could use compensation money from Liverpool to make him a good offer
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Summers on May 30, 2012, 05:22:21 PM
Poyet to Swansea.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: James on May 30, 2012, 07:19:38 PM
Poyet to Swansea.

Good shout!

The real reason for Swansea's success, however, is their board who have dilligently followed the pursuit of their football style whilst not amassing a wedge of debt. They're as likely to get a lesser known coach from overseas as anyone known, but still, as I said, good shout!
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: PaulTheVillan on May 30, 2012, 07:36:18 PM
Levy to nick Rodgers from Red Scouse's grip, Redknapp off to the land of the Arabs to manage for Oil.

;-)
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on May 30, 2012, 09:04:09 PM
Poyet to Swansea.

Good shout!

The real reason for Swansea's success, however, is their board who have dilligently followed the pursuit of their football style whilst not amassing a wedge of debt.

Completely agree. From Martinez to Sousa to Rodgers, the name plate on the manager's door may have changed but the football philosophy has remained the same. Good luck to them, they deserve it.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Rob92 on May 31, 2012, 10:31:13 AM
Ian Holloway to Swansea?
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: not3bad on May 31, 2012, 12:53:35 PM
Do they deserve THAT? Lol!
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: not3bad on May 31, 2012, 12:59:07 PM
CARDIFF City manager Malky Mackay now being tipped to replace Paul Lambert at Norwich City.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: James on May 31, 2012, 03:49:06 PM
Baggies must be getting nervous. They've had more time than anyone to get their man and they don't appear to be any closer. Now they'll have Swans and Canaries to compete with! Interesting.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: James on May 31, 2012, 03:49:12 PM
EDIT: Double post, sorry!
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on May 31, 2012, 04:28:59 PM
Well AVB is still looking for a job as Roma have appointed Zdenek Zeman as their new coach.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: eastie on May 31, 2012, 04:30:16 PM
Norwich may complain about us nicking their boss but watch them go and do exactly the same thing with malky mackay at cardiff.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Rob92 on May 31, 2012, 04:48:05 PM
They did the same thing when taking Lambert from Colchester! Fuck 'em!
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Risso on May 31, 2012, 04:54:34 PM
Looks like Graeme Jones is going to be Swansea boss possibly.  I've been on the piss with him.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: seanthevillan on May 31, 2012, 05:36:41 PM
Baggies must be getting nervous. They've had more time than anyone to get their man and they don't appear to be any closer. Now they'll have Swans and Canaries to compete with! Interesting.


Saw them being linked with Ralf Rangnick - who retired cause of stress earlier in the season. Might not mean anything but it would be an interesting appointment.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: curiousorange on May 31, 2012, 07:09:43 PM
Baggies must be getting nervous. They've had more time than anyone to get their man and they don't appear to be any closer. Now they'll have Swans and Canaries to compete with! Interesting.


Saw them being linked with Ralf Rangnick - who retired cause of stress earlier in the season. Might not mean anything but it would be an interesting appointment.

There'll be no stress with the West Brom job. They have no expectations and rightly so.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Newby on May 31, 2012, 09:45:11 PM
I think Albion and Poyet would be a good match. Norwich and Steve Bruce as they are connected.  Graeme Jones going to Swansea is an interesting move, perhaps tells you that it wasn't neccessarily Martinez who did the real work over there.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: James on May 31, 2012, 10:06:19 PM
I think that Whelan has truly fucked Pinochio Martinez tbh!
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: The Laughing Policeman on June 01, 2012, 09:02:31 AM
From today's Daily Telegraph.
Quote
Liverpool and Aston Villa the big beasts picking off managers from smaller prey
Brendan Rodgers and Paul Lambert's moves to Liverpool and Aston Villa respectively reflect natural selection in the Premier League as top clubs go hunting for managers further down the food chain.

By Paul Hayward, Chief Sports Writer

6:30AM BST 01 Jun 2012



So this is how it works. An ineffectively run big club pinch the manager of a well run smaller one and the natural order is restored. A brutal Darwinian force was at work in the 48 hours it took for Swansea and Norwich to all but lose their managers to the larger predators of Liverpool and Aston Villa.

Liverpool abandon hope in Kenny Dalglish. Not a problem. Brendan Rodgers can be lifted from Swansea for £5 million in compensation — less than the cost of one Charlie Adam. Villa miscalculate when appointing Birmingham City’s manager (Alex McLeish) but corrective measures are available. Paul Lambert, who even rolls up his sleeves and tucks his trousers in his socks like Martin O’Neill, a former manager at Villa Park, is the next one off the rank.

It was ever thus, yet Swansea and Norwich must be wondering why they bothered to go looking for a future managerial star. Roberto Martinez is another who was pursued by the desperate owners of a wealthier club. For years we have been saying young British managers were outcasts in their own land. Shards from the smashing of the glass ceiling now litter the floors of two model clubs.

At Norwich on Thursday it turned messy when Lambert tried to resign and was told he could not walk away that easily by a board who doubtless want a £5 million pain-reliever from Villa. Denying Lambert permission to speak to Randy Lerner’s head-hunters was a gallant but futile gesture. Even if it succeeded in repelling the invader it could only destroy the relationship between Norwich and their inscrutable but gifted coach.

Managers these days attract much sympathy. Caught between speculator owners, volatile fans, super-powerful players, meddling agents and a voracious media, the masochist in the dugout can resemble a Subbuteo boss flicked around by the gods. But in some respects they have grown more commanding, organising themselves more effectively under Richard Bevan’s leadership of the League Managers’ Association and fighting back against the notion that an international dialling code is always required to solve a crisis.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Pete3206 on June 01, 2012, 09:30:13 AM
My response to that writer from the Telegraph would be 'no shit, Sherlock'.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Risso on June 01, 2012, 09:46:26 AM
From today's Daily Telegraph.
Quote
Liverpool and Aston Villa the big beasts picking off managers from smaller prey
Brendan Rodgers and Paul Lambert's moves to Liverpool and Aston Villa respectively reflect natural selection in the Premier League as top clubs go hunting for managers further down the food chain.

By Paul Hayward, Chief Sports Writer

6:30AM BST 01 Jun 2012



So this is how it works. An ineffectively run big club pinch the manager of a well run smaller one and the natural order is restored. A brutal Darwinian force was at work in the 48 hours it took for Swansea and Norwich to all but lose their managers to the larger predators of Liverpool and Aston Villa.

Liverpool abandon hope in Kenny Dalglish. Not a problem. Brendan Rodgers can be lifted from Swansea for £5 million in compensation — less than the cost of one Charlie Adam. Villa miscalculate when appointing Birmingham City’s manager (Alex McLeish) but corrective measures are available. Paul Lambert, who even rolls up his sleeves and tucks his trousers in his socks like Martin O’Neill, a former manager at Villa Park, is the next one off the rank.

It was ever thus, yet Swansea and Norwich must be wondering why they bothered to go looking for a future managerial star. Roberto Martinez is another who was pursued by the desperate owners of a wealthier club. For years we have been saying young British managers were outcasts in their own land. Shards from the smashing of the glass ceiling now litter the floors of two model clubs.

At Norwich on Thursday it turned messy when Lambert tried to resign and was told he could not walk away that easily by a board who doubtless want a £5 million pain-reliever from Villa. Denying Lambert permission to speak to Randy Lerner’s head-hunters was a gallant but futile gesture. Even if it succeeded in repelling the invader it could only destroy the relationship between Norwich and their inscrutable but gifted coach.

Managers these days attract much sympathy. Caught between speculator owners, volatile fans, super-powerful players, meddling agents and a voracious media, the masochist in the dugout can resemble a Subbuteo boss flicked around by the gods. But in some respects they have grown more commanding, organising themselves more effectively under Richard Bevan’s leadership of the League Managers’ Association and fighting back against the notion that an international dialling code is always required to solve a crisis.

In other similarly ground-breaking news, today is Friday.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Merv on June 01, 2012, 10:01:22 AM
I think Albion and Poyet would be a good match. Norwich and Steve Bruce as they are connected.  Graeme Jones going to Swansea is an interesting move, perhaps tells you that it wasn't neccessarily Martinez who did the real work over there.

Yes, I think the Swansea board are pretty shrewd - they obviously know how much Jones contributed during his time at the club. So, it's looking as if Martinez has been passed over for the Liverpool and Villa jobs, and now he's losing his assistant manager?

I think Martinez is best off just resigning his position at Wigan, and seeing what comes up elsewhere.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Merv on June 01, 2012, 10:05:19 AM
It's a bit of a pointless piece by Hayward, good journalist though he is. Happens all the time, in football and in other walks of life. England take West Brom's coach from them (little said about that), Liverpool take Rodgers from Liverpool (Rodgers having dumped Watford, who gave him his first manager's role, quickly enough when Reading came sniffing)... hey, Wigan nicking Martinez from Swansea. It'll happen a few more times this summer, too.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Herman on June 01, 2012, 10:19:24 AM
If Albion do get Rangnick, I reckon he'll do very well there.
Although he had a fair bit of money to spend, he did exceptionally well at Hoffenheim and was widely regarded as one of the best managers in Germany. Not too sure why his head went shortly after going to Schalke tho I'm guessing that he found the size and expectation there too much of a step up.
Before the Lambert deal was sorted (hopefully), I was thinking he would be worth considering at Villa but for a club Albion's size, I'd say he was perfectly suited.   
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: damon loves JT on June 01, 2012, 05:30:56 PM
Quote from: RAWK
Brendan Rodgers is the new manager of Liverpool.
We at RAWK have always firmly believed that one of the strengths of being a Liverpool supporter is that we support the manager. We welcome him to our club and sincerely hope he understands the culture and history and requirements of one being manager at Liverpool Football Club, one of the major jobs in the world of football.


There may be some fans on here who did not wish for his appointment, perhaps preferring any number of other candidates. Let us make one thing clear: We support our manager. Full stop. If any of you are unable to do that, you will find yourselves looking for another fansite to post on. Liverpool supporters are meant to do things the right way and make no mistake, we will remove persistent whingers, moaners, nostalgists and petty posters from this site without a second thought.

Welcome Brendan, you've a bloody big pair of boots to fill. Good luck and welcome and all the best from us at RAWK


You have to hand it to them. In terms of ideological contortionism it's a masterpiece. Offering support to the new manager while defying him to succeed; holding their noses in disgust while demanding that fellow-posters toe the line.

Quite marvellous.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: damon loves JT on June 01, 2012, 05:34:31 PM
I think it's the `culture, history and requirements' bit that gets me. The last time they won the title, I was still wearing school uniform. My hair is now going grey and they are further away from winning it than ever.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: The Laughing Policeman on June 01, 2012, 05:39:44 PM
The "we support the manager full stop" bit is a killer.
Try telling that to the new England manager.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Clampy on June 01, 2012, 05:40:23 PM
The "we support the manager full stop" bit is a killer.
Try telling that to the new England manager.

Beat me to it.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: D.boy on June 01, 2012, 05:40:30 PM
M.Quinn stated this morning that Liverpool haven't won the league title for 20 years and they need to win it again soon. Like that's going to happen with the likes of Citeh and United around.
Liverpool fans are more deluded than anyone and feel it is their divine right to be at the top of the table. I wonder how long it will take for them to realise that they just make up the same group as the rest of us (not the one including Utd & Citeh) and wont win the title in the next 20 years either.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on June 01, 2012, 05:41:27 PM
I think it's the `culture, history and requirements' bit that gets me.

Is Rodgers a card carrying member of the BNP?
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: damon loves JT on June 01, 2012, 05:42:29 PM
The continuing cult of King Kenny is also a real puzzler. Have they not worked out that he did a totally shit job last season?
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: garyshawsknee on June 01, 2012, 05:46:36 PM
The continuing cult of King Kenny is also a real puzzler. Have they not worked out that he did a totally shit job last season?

And acted like an extra from 'Love Thy Neighbour'.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: damon loves JT on June 01, 2012, 05:48:26 PM
It's as if they're not trying to do the same thing as the rest of us, ie win football games and try to win trophies. Their true purpose is to embody some kind of Platonic ideal.

It's so pretentious I don't know whether to laugh or genuflect.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Nev on June 01, 2012, 05:50:10 PM
Liverpool had a fine season last time out, they just don't know it. The manager got the push 'cos he was an ignorant obstinate man.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Monty on June 01, 2012, 05:54:36 PM
Bunch of idiots. Brendan Rodgers is one of the best young managers around, and they're trudging around as if Guardiola should have crawled to them, doffing his cap with gratitude for even seeing him. They should count themselves bloody lucky they're still able to get a manager like Rodgers after their shocking last few seasons. Absolute shower of wankers.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: TheSandman on June 01, 2012, 05:57:57 PM
He won't be their manager this time next year, not because he's a bad manager but because it's a shit job.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: damon loves JT on June 01, 2012, 06:02:26 PM
The fact that they want to go back in time for every appointment tells you a great deal. Go back to King Kenny; go back to Rafa la'. I'm surprised they don't demand to appoint the ghost of Bill Shankly. Or Roger McGough with Shirley Valentine as DoF.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: damon loves JT on June 01, 2012, 06:03:00 PM
Though McGough is an Everton supporter if I recall.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: damon loves JT on June 01, 2012, 06:07:32 PM
Quote from: some other tit on RAWK
To me... Kenny Dalglish is, and always has been, Jesus Christ.  Yes, maybe there was a Holy Trinity of Father, Son and Holy Ghost. For those read Shankly, Paisley and Dalglish in whichever order you choose. (I'd have Shanks as the Big Boy, Paisley as the Spirit, but Kenny as the Jesus figure).

It's like an all-you-can-eat-buffet of self-regarding hyperbole over there.

The worst thing is, there are 183 replies to that original post, and all agree. It's become an article of faith that King Kenny is the greatest football player and football manager EVER and to disagree with this PROVEN FACT makes you WRONG.

That's the problem, right there. That's why Brendan Rogers has more on his plate than he can ever hope to digest. Because however bad the previous manager was, he was in fact Jesus Christ.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: jembob on June 01, 2012, 06:17:36 PM
He won't be their manager this time next year, not because he's a bad manager but because it's a shit job.
Any new manager that feels that they have to 'vow to win over the fans' is on to a loser.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: The Laughing Policeman on June 01, 2012, 06:30:27 PM
He won't be their manager this time next year, not because he's a bad manager but because it's a shit job.
Any new manager that feels that they have to 'vow to win over the fans' is on to a loser.
I think I heard something similar about this time last year........now let me think where was that?
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: LeeB on June 01, 2012, 07:32:34 PM
Baggies must be getting nervous. They've had more time than anyone to get their man and they don't appear to be any closer. Now they'll have Swans and Canaries to compete with! Interesting.


Saw them being linked with Ralf Rangnick - who retired cause of stress earlier in the season. Might not mean anything but it would be an interesting appointment.

There'll be no stress with the West Brom job. They have no expectations and rightly so.

He couldn't hack it when he took over a big club, so he'll love it with the Stripeys, and at least he'll have a pension as a Frank Skinner prop.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 01, 2012, 08:44:26 PM
Baggies must be getting nervous. They've had more time than anyone to get their man and they don't appear to be any closer. Now they'll have Swans and Canaries to compete with! Interesting.


Saw them being linked with Ralf Rangnick - who retired cause of stress earlier in the season. Might not mean anything but it would be an interesting appointment.

There'll be no stress with the West Brom job. They have no expectations and rightly so.

They do, though. They now believe they're the next Valencia, the plucky underdogs who compete with the Big Boys.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: not3bad on June 01, 2012, 10:20:07 PM
He won't be their manager this time next year, not because he's a bad manager but because it's a shit job.
Any new manager that feels that they have to 'vow to win over the fans' is on to a loser.

Yep.  He's got to "win over those dissenting fans".
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: richard moore on June 01, 2012, 11:39:11 PM
The fact that they want to go back in time for every appointment tells you a great deal. Go back to King Kenny; go back to Rafa la'. I'm surprised they don't demand to appoint the ghost of Bill Shankly. Or Roger McGough with Shirley Valentine as DoF.

Shankly was that tosser who thought football was more important than life or death. Twat
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 01, 2012, 11:48:49 PM
The best thing I've seen on twitter for ages is rawk_meltdown.

Someone tweeting the ludicrous shite spouted on that forum.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Mazrim on June 02, 2012, 12:09:17 AM
Imagine idolising Wee Jimmy Krankie. Fan dabby dosey c***s.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Risso on June 02, 2012, 10:50:24 AM
The best thing I've seen on twitter for ages is rawk_meltdown.

Someone tweeting the ludicrous shite spouted on that forum.

Some absolute comedy gold on there. 

"I almost can't type this because I can't see the keys through the tears. How much more of himself does Kenny have to give to LFC?"

"This has become one of the few "Where were you" days we have in our lifetimes."

"Rafa or nothing. I will not except anyone else to fill the throne of the King."

"Could you imagine Mr Alex Ferguson's face when Rafa walked through the door ? Shudders would be sent around europe."

Some of it is almost Big Sam-esque, but you know that with Scousers and their love of hyperbole, that's it's all very real.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: OzVilla on June 02, 2012, 11:14:02 AM
Absolute delusional bobbins isn't it.

I think the best description of Plop fans was the one someone posted on here a while back.

Liverpool LC - Ashamed of nothing, offended by everything.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: pestria on June 02, 2012, 11:24:28 AM
From today's Daily Telegraph.
Quote
Liverpool and Aston Villa the big beasts picking off managers from smaller prey
Brendan Rodgers and Paul Lambert's moves to Liverpool and Aston Villa respectively reflect natural selection in the Premier League as top clubs go hunting for managers further down the food chain.

By Paul Hayward, Chief Sports Writer

6:30AM BST 01 Jun 2012



So this is how it works. An ineffectively run big club pinch the manager of a well run smaller one and the natural order is restored. A brutal Darwinian force was at work in the 48 hours it took for Swansea and Norwich to all but lose their managers to the larger predators of Liverpool and Aston Villa.

Liverpool abandon hope in Kenny Dalglish. Not a problem. Brendan Rodgers can be lifted from Swansea for £5 million in compensation — less than the cost of one Charlie Adam. Villa miscalculate when appointing Birmingham City’s manager (Alex McLeish) but corrective measures are available. Paul Lambert, who even rolls up his sleeves and tucks his trousers in his socks like Martin O’Neill, a former manager at Villa Park, is the next one off the rank.

It was ever thus, yet Swansea and Norwich must be wondering why they bothered to go looking for a future managerial star. Roberto Martinez is another who was pursued by the desperate owners of a wealthier club. For years we have been saying young British managers were outcasts in their own land. Shards from the smashing of the glass ceiling now litter the floors of two model clubs.

At Norwich on Thursday it turned messy when Lambert tried to resign and was told he could not walk away that easily by a board who doubtless want a £5 million pain-reliever from Villa. Denying Lambert permission to speak to Randy Lerner’s head-hunters was a gallant but futile gesture. Even if it succeeded in repelling the invader it could only destroy the relationship between Norwich and their inscrutable but gifted coach.

Managers these days attract much sympathy. Caught between speculator owners, volatile fans, super-powerful players, meddling agents and a voracious media, the masochist in the dugout can resemble a Subbuteo boss flicked around by the gods. But in some respects they have grown more commanding, organising themselves more effectively under Richard Bevan’s leadership of the League Managers’ Association and fighting back against the notion that an international dialling code is always required to solve a crisis.

In other similarly ground-breaking news, today is Friday.

Agreed, but it is lamentable that the financial arrangements of the premier league make true and fair competition impossible.

A few years ago managers and players might have been more tempted to stay put at a 'smaller' club as they saw themselves being successful there, eg winning a cup or playing in Europe.  It's easy to forget that when we were last challenging for the title there were usually a clubs like Norwich in the mix as well. 

I for one loathe the fact that it now seems that everyone has their station in premiership life.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: PeterWithe on June 02, 2012, 01:51:36 PM
Quote from: RAWK
Brendan Rodgers is the new manager of Liverpool.
We at RAWK have always firmly believed that one of the strengths of being a Liverpool supporter is that we support the manager. We welcome him to our club and sincerely hope he understands the culture and history and requirements of one being manager at Liverpool Football Club, one of the major jobs in the world of football.


There may be some fans on here who did not wish for his appointment, perhaps preferring any number of other candidates. Let us make one thing clear: We support our manager. Full stop. If any of you are unable to do that, you will find yourselves looking for another fansite to post on. Liverpool supporters are meant to do things the right way and make no mistake, we will remove persistent whingers, moaners, nostalgists and petty posters from this site without a second thought.

Welcome Brendan, you've a bloody big pair of boots to fill. Good luck and welcome and all the best from us at RAWK


You have to hand it to them. In terms of ideological contortionism it's a masterpiece. Offering support to the new manager while defying him to succeed; holding their noses in disgust while demanding that fellow-posters toe the line.

Quite marvellous.

I hope we never get rid of persistent whingers, moaners, nostalgists and petty posters. I think I'd be out on my ear on every score.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: The Laughing Policeman on June 03, 2012, 12:03:17 PM
Talking to a Scouse mate yesterday afternoon, and to say he isn't happy would be an understatement.
He reckons that if they finish in the top half next season it'll be by good luck. He said that a big club like Liverpool should be getting a big name manager and they should never have sacked Kunt Kenny. When I said it didn't look like any of the top managers fancied the job so who would he have gone for he said Jamie Carragher as player/manager. I nearly choked on a mouthful of beer when he came out with that one.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Monty on June 03, 2012, 12:05:17 PM
Talking to a Scouse mate yesterday afternoon, and to say he isn't happy would be an understatement.
He reckons that if they finish in the top half next season it'll be by good luck. He said that a big club like Liverpool should be getting a big name manager and they should never have sacked Kunt Kenny. When I said it didn't look like any of the top managers fancied the job so who would he have gone for he said Jamie Carragher as player/manager. I nearly choked on a mouthful of beer when he came out with that one.

Brendan Rodgers is one of the brightest young managerial talents, I'd go so far as to say in Europe. The arrogance in turning their noses up at a manager most clubs - including clubs bigger than them - would be very happy with is staggering. They just live in a fantasy world.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: damon loves JT on June 03, 2012, 02:34:36 PM
They just live in a fantasy world.

They really do. And if Rodgers turns it around for them they will claim it was because of The Liverpool Way or the Unique History And Traditions of Anfield or something.

As somebody pointed out on another thread, the only reason Paisley was a success was that they were ruthless about denying Shankly any influence after he was gone. Disloyalty is an important part of success, though no-one will admit it.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Fergal on June 03, 2012, 02:38:29 PM
Now we are sorted I don't give a toss who is managing who.  Except I would laugh my balls off if TSM went to the boggies.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: flybo on June 03, 2012, 07:16:13 PM
Now we are sorted I don't give a toss who is managing who.  Except I would laugh my balls off if TSM went to the boggies.
Whould love that
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: James on June 04, 2012, 04:26:59 PM
So that's Boggies, Chelski and Swans now looking for a manager, oh, and Norwich of course!  ;D Can't see TSM getting so much as a sniff at any of those jobs tbh! It's overseas or back to Scotland for him I think!

Norwich should get Hollowedout from Blackpool, he'd fit in well there, what with having his coaching badges and his tractor license already!  ;)
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: not3bad on June 04, 2012, 07:22:00 PM
So that's Boggies, Chelski and Swans now looking for a manager, oh, and Norwich of course!

Though Chelsea haven't actually parted company with RDM yet...
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: James on June 05, 2012, 12:26:22 PM
So that's Boggies, Chelski and Swans now looking for a manager, oh, and Norwich of course!

Though Chelsea haven't actually parted company with RDM yet...

True but they're openly courting Guardiola which must make him feel 'unwanted'. Still think he'll end up at Lazio, but you never know!
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on June 05, 2012, 06:18:11 PM
Rumour doing therounds that Hughton is off to Norwich. They expect to announce their new manager in the next 48 hours.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: James on June 06, 2012, 12:13:56 PM
And Hollowed out to Swans? That's a bit of a surprise if that happens, I must say. Lord knows who Blose will get if Hughton goes, and why wouldn't he go? Bruce looks to be off to Hull. That'll leave them Mick Mack and TSM without paying any compo!  ;D
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: not3bad on June 06, 2012, 12:21:15 PM
TSM back to Blues!  Blinder!
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: VillaAlways on June 07, 2012, 11:44:44 AM
@SkySports: Sky Sports sources understand Steve Clarke is set to be named West Brom's new manager in the next 24 hours. #WBA #LFC http://t.co/uVtqV6Qg

He's a great coach
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: PaulTheVillan on June 07, 2012, 11:46:06 AM
Mad Mick or Big Eck to Blues?

Saying that, they do have decent records in the Championship, though this time it would certainly be tougher than they've had it before.

Plus it would really piss off their few thousand hardcore following.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: silhillvilla on June 07, 2012, 12:02:08 PM
@SkySports: Sky Sports sources understand Steve Clarke is set to be named West Brom's new manager in the next 24 hours. #WBA #LFC http://t.co/uVtqV6Qg

He's a great coach
May be a decent coach but not sure he'll cut it as a manager
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: James on June 08, 2012, 11:47:31 AM
So, Hughton to Norwich, Clarke to Boggies, Swans are reportedly going to have another crack at Wigan's No.2 (presumably because they couldn't understand Hollowedout when they interviewed him!) and the latest link for our neighbours is ... ummm ... Gary Megson!  ;D
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: The Laughing Policeman on June 08, 2012, 01:58:41 PM
Hearts are looking for a new manager maybe TSM will skulk off back north of the border.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Sexual Ealing on June 08, 2012, 02:06:29 PM
I think he might have reservations about going back to Scotland after the revelations on BBC Scotland last week  about the £1 million-odd that Rangers paid him via their 'controversial' EBT scheme .

see also Souness, G.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Des Little on June 08, 2012, 04:34:56 PM
If the d.ogshit got Megson it would be the cherry on the icing on the cake for me.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: villajk on June 12, 2012, 07:11:35 PM
Rumors gathering on twitter (yeah, I know) that Rednapp has resigned from Spurs.  Money allegedly going on Moyes to take over. 

Don't believe them myself, just reporting.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Toronto Villa on June 12, 2012, 07:47:10 PM
Rumors gathering on twitter (yeah, I know) that Rednapp has resigned from Spurs.  Money allegedly going on Moyes to take over. 

Don't believe them myself, just reporting.

there was a story I think in the Daily Mail the other day that Redknapp was on his way out which I found rather amazing given his record there. This would be very interesting if true. Regarding Everton, given that Martinez committed to Wigan, Rodgers, Hughton and Lambo out of the picture, who would they go for to run a team on next to nothing. No big name would go there.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: OCD on June 12, 2012, 08:08:16 PM
If true, I'm glad we got our business done (relatively) early.

For Martinez, I'm not convinced that he is committed to Wigan.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: bertlambshank on June 12, 2012, 08:13:22 PM
Espn soccernet are saying he has gone.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Concrete John on June 12, 2012, 08:13:44 PM
If 'arry was to go, I'd expect Rafa to be favourite to replace him.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: bertlambshank on June 12, 2012, 08:18:26 PM
If 'arry was to go, I'd expect Rafa to be favourite to replace him.
I reckon Everton will be looking for a new manager.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: villajk on June 12, 2012, 08:25:03 PM
 8:15PM, TUE 12 JUN 2012
Redknapp denies resignation web rumours
Last updated Tue 12 Jun 2012
Sport Football Tottenham Hotspur Harry Redknapp 
The Tottenham manager Harry Redknapp has told ESPN that he has not resigned after rumours on Twitter and other social networking websites suggested that he had.

No, I haven't resigned, and I have no idea why it is being suggested that I have resigned.

This is an outrage; an absolute liberty for people to be putting around this kind of rumour on the internet.

It is not true, there is not a chance I will resign. Why should I? I have a year left on my contract.

He is in negotiations with the club to extend his contract.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: bertlambshank on June 12, 2012, 08:25:54 PM
Fuck me they changed that quick.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Trinitymiddle on June 12, 2012, 08:45:27 PM
Rumors gathering on twitter (yeah, I know) that Rednapp has resigned from Spurs.  Money allegedly going on Moyes to take over. 

Don't believe them myself, just reporting.

there was a story I think in the Daily Mail the other day that Redknapp was on his way out which I found rather amazing given his record there. This would be very interesting if true. Regarding Everton, given that Martinez committed to Wigan, Rodgers, Hughton and Lambo out of the picture, who would they go for to run a team on next to nothing. No big name would go there.

Holloway to Everton? Works well on a budget. Out of contract, I think.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: David_Nab on June 12, 2012, 08:53:04 PM
Laudrup to Swansea
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: eamonn on June 13, 2012, 01:21:06 AM
Laudrup? Should have went for Lund (Sarah).
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: PaulTheVillan on June 13, 2012, 08:05:24 AM
Martinez to Spurs?
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: damon loves JT on June 13, 2012, 08:24:50 AM
Was speaking to a relatively intelligent Spurs fan last night who believes Redknapp under performed last season, and doesn't deserve a three-year contract. Especially as the squad is likely to get worse.

His take is that Wenger, dealt a worse hand and under huge pressure, did better; Redknapp isn't a manager who'll get Spurs into the top 3.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: charlie on June 13, 2012, 01:57:20 PM
On a non 'Arry tack, Martin Laursen has just resigned and is looking to continue coaching at a higher level. VP would be good!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: N'ZMAV on June 13, 2012, 02:16:47 PM
Spurs will go for Sven :)
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: not3bad on June 13, 2012, 02:29:26 PM
Apparently Moyes would be the "No. 1 target" for Spurs if Rednapp went.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: not3bad on June 13, 2012, 02:30:13 PM
Martinez to Spurs?

I'll wait to hear from Whelan on that one.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Concrete John on June 13, 2012, 02:33:57 PM
If Spurs go I think they'll lose Bale and Modric.  They'll have a fight to keep them anyway without CL football!
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Irish villain on June 13, 2012, 05:55:39 PM
RDM appointed permanent Chelsea manager.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: villajk on June 13, 2012, 07:43:53 PM
The Mirror (yes, I know) on Twitter:

Rednapp latest:  spurs's boss and club 'fail to agree deal at crisis talks'
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: villajk on June 13, 2012, 09:55:19 PM
SSN reporting Rednapp is to leave Spurs
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: ozzjim on June 13, 2012, 09:56:57 PM
Moyes to spurs then....?? going to be a really interesting season.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: PaulTheVillan on June 13, 2012, 09:58:06 PM
Wonder if Chelsea wish they'd have held on a little longer.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Dave Cooper please on June 13, 2012, 10:00:40 PM
The 'Arry rumours are going off again. Moire substantial this time as well according to Five Live.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Somniloquism on June 13, 2012, 10:01:39 PM
Wonder if Chelsea wish they'd have held on a little longer.

He was probably priced out of the move to Chelsea by the compensation demands of Levy. So when the Russian called the bluff and signed RDM up for two years 'Arry had his paddy.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: villajk on June 13, 2012, 10:02:43 PM
SSN saying he'll leave within 24 hours.  Severance package being sorted.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: damon loves JT on June 13, 2012, 10:23:47 PM
Presumably he can now complete his dream move to the sty
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: villajk on June 13, 2012, 10:29:12 PM
Presumably he can now complete his dream move to the sty

*like*
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: not3bad on June 13, 2012, 10:38:31 PM
Putting 2 and 2 together and getting 5 I wonder if Rednapp's "talks" with Daniel Levy were about how much money is available to spend?  If the answer was not a lot, it makes sense that Spurs are looking at David Moyes as a replacement.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on June 13, 2012, 10:44:09 PM
Ho Ho harry, I'm sure he can afford to retire, we'll soon know reasons as he can't keep his gob shut
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Concrete John on June 13, 2012, 10:44:51 PM
So, how many PL clubs is that now with a change of manager this summer?

Us
Norwich
Liverpool
Swansea
WBA
Spurs
Everton (probably)

And you've got Chelsea, Fulham, Sunderland, Newcastle and QPR who have had their manager in place for a year or less.

Have I missed anyone?
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Holy Trinity on June 13, 2012, 10:57:28 PM
its the nature of the beast these days. managers never stay at clubs long term any more, i believe only moyes wenger and fergie have spent over 4 years at there current clubs.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: maidstonevillain on June 13, 2012, 11:15:42 PM
BBC Confirmed

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18436663
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: not3bad on June 13, 2012, 11:22:17 PM
Wow.  Rednapp was the longest serving manager at Tottenham for the last 20 years.  Mind you I suppose it was the same for MON at Villa.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: OCD on June 13, 2012, 11:26:13 PM
He's paid the price for making them think they had a realistic chance of winning the title to only fall away and end up 4th. They could have easily finished third had they tried to win the game against us rather than accept the draw. I know they were down to 10 men but I found that very strange - we were pathetic and they could have easily won with the right tactics/substitutions.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: not3bad on June 13, 2012, 11:28:03 PM
Good job for us they bloody didn't!
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: D.boy on June 13, 2012, 11:29:32 PM
I wonder if the impending sale of Bale and Moderic had anything to do with it, ie "Your not getting all the money to replace them & strengthen even more".
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: maidstonevillain on June 13, 2012, 11:34:12 PM
its the nature of the beast these days. managers never stay at clubs long term any more, i believe only moyes wenger and fergie have spent over 4 years at there current clubs.

Tony Pulis. Even longer if you also include the earlier stint.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: OCD on June 13, 2012, 11:40:33 PM
Good job for us they bloody didn't!

Yep. If I had been an opposition manager with no allegiances to the club, I wouldn't have been as merciful.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Matt Collins on June 13, 2012, 11:45:08 PM
I think that's crazy. He did a brilliant job at spurs. They still finished fourth. What does levy want? Moyes has done a wonderful job at everton, but that would still be a big risk. Spurs fans wont tolerate everton style football after the panache they've been playing with. And Moyes' record at big signings is patchy - yakubu, bilayetdinov didn't do great. Fellaini only really coming good at the back end of last season for me.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: adrenachrome on June 13, 2012, 11:45:18 PM
In the lamentably forgettable words of Sham 69:

Quote
Come on come on
Hurry up Harry come on
Come on come on
Hurry up Harry come on
Cleah aaaaht yer fackin desk
Cleah aaaaht yer fackin desk
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Chipsticks on June 13, 2012, 11:47:01 PM
I wonder if the impending sale of Bale and Moderic had anything to do with it, ie "Your not getting all the money to replace them & strengthen even more".

Ah, the old Lerner technique.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: VillaAlways on June 13, 2012, 11:49:12 PM
I wonder if the impending sale of Bale and Moderic had anything to do with it, ie "Your not getting all the money to replace them & strengthen even more".

Ah, the old Lerner technique.
*chuckle*
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: ozzjim on June 13, 2012, 11:51:25 PM
I think that's crazy. He did a brilliant job at spurs. They still finished fourth. What does levy want? Moyes has done a wonderful job at everton, but that would still be a big risk. Spurs fans wont tolerate everton style football after the panache they've been playing with. And Moyes' record at big signings is patchy - yakubu, bilayetdinov didn't do great. Fellaini only really coming good at the back end of last season for me.

I would be gutted were I a Spurs fan, but they seem happy with the situation. Odd.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: TheSandman on June 13, 2012, 11:56:15 PM
Redknob wasn't particularly popular amongst the fans at Shite Fart Lane. Aside from the media they were the only people who seemed to keen to see him get the England job. A lot of claims that he had 'taken Spurs as far as he could'.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Irish villain on June 13, 2012, 11:56:54 PM
Maybe I am wearing my claret and blue glasses yet again, but our change of manager was the most positive of the lot. West Brom, forced on them, Chelsea really had to give it to RDM even though it was essentially the team managing itself, Swansea obviously lost a good coach, Liverpool got a good coach but he will be under pressure to deliver, Norwich we raided them, Spurs losing Harry could be the beginning of the end (like our collapse in 2010).

I make the last point not because I think Harry (or MON) are great managers but because they had taken their sides as far as they ever could and a sense of lethargy/end of the road had already crept in before they left. Them leaving can be the physical manifestation of it. A few players subsequently leaving exacerbates things, and creates further uncertainty. If Moyes takes over from Harry, then Everton will be the next club on the back-foot.

All this while Villa acted swiftly to remove a manager who led them to their lowest PL points tally and  to replace him with one of the best young managers in the game. I think we are already on the front foot when you look at the turmoil that could be ahead for a few clubs. We are already on the right track and happier than we have been in a couple of years. That's more than can be said for some of our traditional rivals.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: jcsutv on June 13, 2012, 11:57:15 PM
I am sure there was an ITK about Redknap leaving Spurs a couple of weeks ago. Trouble was he was on the dog leash from Dorset and that limited him to Yeovil, Exeter and the Bristols! Forget the rest, there is no money to be 'ad there.  Harry reminds me of the Shirley Town football Club burglar. He kept going back to fleece them until they gave up and went bust. Isn't there a Shirley in Hampshire?
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: adrenachrome on June 14, 2012, 12:01:24 AM
I am sure there was an ITK about Rednap leaving Spurs a couple of weeks ago. Trouble was he was on the dog leash from Dorset and that limited him to Yeovil, Exeter and the Bristols! Forget the rest, there is no money to be 'ad there.  Harry reminds me of the Shirley Town football Club burglar. He kept going back to fleece them until they gave up and went bust. Isn't there a Shirley in Hampshire?

I knew a Shirley Shagnasty from Bournemouth.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: VillaAlways on June 14, 2012, 12:02:20 AM


I would be gutted were I a Spurs fan, but they seem happy with the situation. Odd.
Similar to us with MO'N

*wink*
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: eamonn on June 14, 2012, 12:13:37 AM
Maybe the'll give Muttley his old job back after a good first season at Fulham.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: jcsutv on June 14, 2012, 12:20:33 AM
Moyes would be funny there. They would win stuff but would have to deal with the 1-0 football.  Tottenham have a history of great football don't you know?
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: OzVilla on June 14, 2012, 12:25:41 AM
One thing you can put your mortgage on is that the information the press are getting is straight from the horses mouth.

Either Arry flushing out a better deal or he's gone.  Either way the press articles may as well be press releases the way King Gobshite operates.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: not3bad on June 14, 2012, 12:31:08 AM
Maybe I am wearing my claret and blue glasses yet again, but our change of manager was the most positive of the lot. West Brom, forced on them, Chelsea really had to give it to RDM even though it was essentially the team managing itself, Swansea obviously lost a good coach, Liverpool got a good coach but he will be under pressure to deliver, Norwich we raided them, Spurs losing Harry could be the beginning of the end (like our collapse in 2010).

I make the last point not because I think Harry (or MON) are great managers but because they had taken their sides as far as they ever could and a sense of lethargy/end of the road had already crept in before they left. Them leaving can be the physical manifestation of it. A few players subsequently leaving exacerbates things, and creates further uncertainty. If Moyes takes over from Harry, then Everton will be the next club on the back-foot.

All this while Villa acted swiftly to remove a manager who led them to their lowest PL points tally and  to replace him with one of the best young managers in the game. I think we are already on the front foot when you look at the turmoil that could be ahead for a few clubs. We are already on the right track and happier than we have been in a couple of years. That's more than can be said for some of our traditional rivals.

Does make you feel strangely positive doesn't it?  And about time after the season we've just endured!
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Hoppo on June 14, 2012, 12:50:05 AM
Fantastic post Irish  Villain.. Exactly how i see it.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Matt C on June 14, 2012, 01:02:27 AM
Spurs are mental but we knew this.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Toronto Villa on June 14, 2012, 01:10:29 AM
it's about time some other teams had a shit and uncertain summer. I agree IV, we have more stability about us than we've had in the past 4 or so years. No big name player looking to bail, and no managerial issues. I'm feeling well confident of a much, much better season ahead.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Sexual Ealing on June 14, 2012, 01:19:53 AM
Maybe I am wearing my claret and blue glasses yet again, but our change of manager was the most positive of the lot. West Brom, forced on them, Chelsea really had to give it to RDM even though it was essentially the team managing itself, Swansea obviously lost a good coach, Liverpool got a good coach but he will be under pressure to deliver, Norwich we raided them, Spurs losing Harry could be the beginning of the end (like our collapse in 2010).

I make the last point not because I think Harry (or MON) are great managers but because they had taken their sides as far as they ever could and a sense of lethargy/end of the road had already crept in before they left. Them leaving can be the physical manifestation of it. A few players subsequently leaving exacerbates things, and creates further uncertainty. If Moyes takes over from Harry, then Everton will be the next club on the back-foot.

All this while Villa acted swiftly to remove a manager who led them to their lowest PL points tally and  to replace him with one of the best young managers in the game. I think we are already on the front foot when you look at the turmoil that could be ahead for a few clubs. We are already on the right track and happier than we have been in a couple of years. That's more than can be said for some of our traditional rivals.

I think they'll wobble this season for sure, but I don't see them in the bottom half.

Everton, on the other hand...
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on June 14, 2012, 06:46:42 AM
Arry might be a cock but he is a good manager, I can't understand them wanting him gone
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Ian J on June 14, 2012, 06:54:15 AM
Moyes would be funny there. They would win stuff but would have to deal with the 1-0 football.  Tottenham have a history of great football don't you know?
I actually think Everton play good football once they finally get themselves going. They are strong, competitive, pass the ball and attack well. He would do a good job at Spurs.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: andrew08 on June 14, 2012, 07:30:36 AM
I wander where Spurs feature on the Whelen-0-meter of Big Clubs?

There is no way the Spurs board will maintain a dignified silence if he starts on them.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Somniloquism on June 14, 2012, 07:44:08 AM
Moyes would be funny there. They would win stuff but would have to deal with the 1-0 football.  Tottenham have a history of great football don't you know?
I actually think Everton play good football once they finally get themselves going. They are strong, competitive, pass the ball and attack well. He would do a good job at Spurs.

Would the fans give them time to get going though? A manager most think will play bad football and Spurs struggling at the wrong end of the table coming into December has can mean the pressure could get to him and he could be dumped. I'm guessing he will have to replace Bale and Modric (and possibly VDV) so that will be Pienaar who fell flat already and Fellaini.

Of course this is all speculation as so far he hasn't been offered the job apart from bettings markets and paper rumours and we saw with OGS how true those can be.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on June 14, 2012, 07:47:55 AM
Would the fans give them time to get going though?

They certainly give that stupid song of theirs plenty of time before it gets going.

I bet Brendan Rodgers is kicking himself.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Hookeysmith on June 14, 2012, 08:18:59 AM
Maybe I am wearing my claret and blue glasses yet again, but our change of manager was the most positive of the lot. West Brom, forced on them, Chelsea really had to give it to RDM even though it was essentially the team managing itself, Swansea obviously lost a good coach, Liverpool got a good coach but he will be under pressure to deliver, Norwich we raided them, Spurs losing Harry could be the beginning of the end (like our collapse in 2010).

I make the last point not because I think Harry (or MON) are great managers but because they had taken their sides as far as they ever could and a sense of lethargy/end of the road had already crept in before they left. Them leaving can be the physical manifestation of it. A few players subsequently leaving exacerbates things, and creates further uncertainty. If Moyes takes over from Harry, then Everton will be the next club on the back-foot.

All this while Villa acted swiftly to remove a manager who led them to their lowest PL points tally and  to replace him with one of the best young managers in the game. I think we are already on the front foot when you look at the turmoil that could be ahead for a few clubs. We are already on the right track and happier than we have been in a couple of years. That's more than can be said for some of our traditional rivals.

I think they'll wobble this season for sure, but I don't see them in the bottom half.

Everton, on the other hand...

Very good post
As for the cockney quote machine - have no sympathy for him at all ever. He is a bigger self promotionalist than Whelan and all this talk of the England thing turned his head - he and his media pals were the only ones that mentiond him and the England job in the same sentance. When asked whilst doing his pundit work on BBC - he openly admitted that at no time did the FA even contact him.

Lets face it with the players he had available and the position he got himself in half way through the season it has to be considered a failure that they never had 3rd sewn up

Its just a pity that levey is astute as Spurs could have been left skint just like every other club balloon head has been involved with

The major question is who will take him now?  cannot see any job that is in his geographical radius coming available any time soon - what a shame
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Le Lapin on June 14, 2012, 09:04:04 AM
I wander where Spurs feature on the Whelen-0-meter of Big Clubs?

There is no way the Spurs board will maintain a dignified silence if he starts on them.

Not a big enough club. Some one here already said that Whelan wants Martinez to manage a Jesus Christ first XI. No earthly bodies are good enough for Bob to manage, just deities, demigods and Wigan Athletic. 
I reckon he'll keep his trap shut, Totting-ham will tear him a new one if he starts spouting guff.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: MoetVillan on June 14, 2012, 09:12:45 AM
I would just like to say "mwah hah hah hah hah hah hah hah hah hah hah hah hah".
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Irreverent ad on June 14, 2012, 09:40:09 AM
Wow a lot of Premier League teams will have new managers this summer.

The best move for us would be Moyes to Spurs. Spurs will probably lose Modric, Bale, Adebayor. I think they weill slide a bit. Everton, if they lost Moyes would collapse like a house of cards. This move would put us closer to or 'natural' competitors.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: cdbullyweefan on June 14, 2012, 09:41:21 AM
Sky saying McCoist likely to quit Rangers.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Concrete John on June 14, 2012, 09:46:49 AM
Yep, with all this going on could us expecting a top half finish under Bertie be upgraded to top 6?

Guess we'll have to wait on that until we, and everyone else, have done their transfer dealings!
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 14, 2012, 09:53:54 AM
How long, I wonder, until MON's agent, Oliver Holt, starts putting him forward for the Spurs job (despite him being about the least suitable candidate out there)?
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Astral Weeks on June 14, 2012, 10:07:22 AM
From Twitter:-

Harry Redknapp has left Spurs, but at least he'll get a £3m payoff, which after tax is £3m
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Le Lapin on June 14, 2012, 10:27:31 AM
From Twitter:-

Harry Redknapp has left Spurs, but at least he'll get a £3m payoff, which after tax is £3m

It's funny. coz it's probably true.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: damon loves JT on June 14, 2012, 11:04:12 AM
Sandbanks (Dorset) to The Sty (Mordor)

163.7 miles
Time: 3 hr 19 min


I don't fink Sandra will be very 'appy
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Monty on June 14, 2012, 11:09:18 AM
Would the fans give them time to get going though?

They certainly give that stupid song of theirs plenty of time before it gets going.

I bet Brendan Rodgers is kicking himself.

Nah, I think Liverpool will finish above Spurs next season.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: john e on June 14, 2012, 11:32:48 AM
From Twitter:-

Harry Redknapp has left Spurs, but at least he'll get a £3m payoff, which after tax is £3m


nicked for FB
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: not3bad on June 14, 2012, 11:55:11 AM
Sky saying McCoist likely to quit Rangers.

Return of the 'Eck?
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: charlie on June 14, 2012, 12:09:54 PM
How about:- Moyes to Spudland, Hughes to Everton, Arry to QPR, Eck to Rangers[hohoho], McCoist back to TV, Holloway to Norwich, ? tto Blackpool.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: N'ZMAV on June 14, 2012, 12:12:55 PM
Norwich have a manager. Who to Blues?
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Bren'd on June 14, 2012, 12:18:26 PM
What about Martinez to Spurs?  Wheelan hasn't been on Sky Sports News for over a week now.  I need my fix.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: maidstonevillain on June 14, 2012, 12:31:41 PM
A quote regarding Redknapp posted on the BBC site. I can think of another club/manager which fits the quote.

4.
At 01:26 14th Jun 2012, epochery wrote:

Peple out there who feel Redknapp has been hard done by should ask the average Spurs fan their opinion. I will tell you the majority arfe glad to see the back of him. He is a self promoter who only takes the credit for the good things he has done and blames everyone else for his failings, he is the darling of the media not his former employers.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Billy Walker on June 14, 2012, 12:34:47 PM
Yep, with all this going on could us expecting a top half finish under Bertie be upgraded to top 6?

Guess we'll have to wait on that until we, and everyone else, have done their transfer dealings!

Well, I hope to see us soon back in our natural position above Spurs at least.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: OCD on June 14, 2012, 12:36:42 PM
Number one cause of traffic jams in London: Harry Redknapp conducting impromptu interviews with Sky through his car window.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Hookeysmith on June 14, 2012, 12:39:29 PM
A quote regarding Redknapp posted on the BBC site. I can think of another club/manager which fits the quote.

4.
At 01:26 14th Jun 2012, epochery wrote:

Peple out there who feel Redknapp has been hard done by should ask the average Spurs fan their opinion. I will tell you the majority arfe glad to see the back of him. He is a self promoter who only takes the credit for the good things he has done and blames everyone else for his failings, he is the darling of the media not his former employers.


Sums him up in a nutshell
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: ozzjim on June 14, 2012, 12:40:40 PM
The difference is that Redknapp is a better manager, unfortunately for us.

Spurs seem to want a Wenger/ Mourinho cross breed, who will keep wages and fees down but still attract glamour and finish in the top 3. Redknapp, for all I can't stand him, did a bloody good job, and played so much better football than St Pubic of Hairshirehead that it is laughable he did it on less wages and net spend.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Monty on June 14, 2012, 12:46:44 PM
The difference is that Redknapp is a better manager, unfortunately for us.

Spurs seem to want a Wenger/ Mourinho cross breed, who will keep wages and fees down but still attract glamour and finish in the top 3. Redknapp, for all I can't stand him, did a bloody good job, and played so much better football than St Pubic of Hairshirehead that it is laughable he did it on less wages and net spend.

*Bing bong* Would Villadawg please report to the managers' thread, that's Villadawg to the managers' thread, thank you.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Matt Collins on June 14, 2012, 12:50:51 PM
I agree ozzbert. Redknapp is a self publicist. But he did a fantastic job with spurs. Even when we were vying for the top 4 with them, I regularly was jealous about the quality of football spurs fans were getting to watch compared to the plodding stuff we were increasingly sitting through.

Question: if this had happened a month ago, would villa fans have wanted Harry ahead of Lambert? Not that Harry would have fitted the profile our board wanted. But there's no doubt his sides have always played good football. His Portsmouth side used to play us off the park regularly too.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: James on June 14, 2012, 01:00:37 PM
Quote
Question: if this had happened a month ago, would villa fans have wanted Harry ahead of Lambert?

NO!
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: andrew08 on June 14, 2012, 01:02:17 PM
Not sure about Portsmouth, if memory serves they were massive physically in midfield and just used to beat us up for a couple of seasons.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: ozzjim on June 14, 2012, 01:04:54 PM
Not sure about Portsmouth, if memory serves they were massive physically in midfield and just used to beat us up for a couple of seasons.


They were big and strong through midfield but could play a bit too.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: N'ZMAV on June 14, 2012, 01:11:27 PM
I wouldn't have trusted 'Arry with our money. He get's results, but it's at a huge cost. like MON.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Irish villain on June 14, 2012, 01:33:53 PM
Page 14 of this thread is hilarious! I nearly burst out laughing at work several times reading through it in the past few minutes!

Special mention to OCD, Bren'd, Ozzbert and charlie. Lots of suppressed laughter that needs out!
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: D.boy on June 14, 2012, 01:54:51 PM
 St Pubic of Hairshirehead ......... brilliant
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Mister E on June 14, 2012, 02:10:15 PM
How about:- Moyes to Spudland, Hughes to Everton, Arry to QPR, Eck to Rangers[hohoho], McCoist back to TV, Holloway to Norwich, ? tto Blackpool.
Or:
Moyes to Spudland, Holloway to Everton, McCoist to Blackpool, TSM to Rangers.
Or:
Moyes to Spudland, Holloway to Everton, TSM to Blackpool.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: not3bad on June 14, 2012, 02:34:45 PM
How about:- Moyes to Spudland, Hughes to Everton, Arry to QPR, Eck to Rangers[hohoho], McCoist back to TV, Holloway to Norwich, ? tto Blackpool.
Or:
Moyes to Spudland, Holloway to Everton, McCoist to Blackpool, TSM to Rangers.
Or:
Moyes to Spudland, Holloway to Everton, TSM to Blackpool.

Is this the best managerial merry go round ever?!
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: damon loves JT on June 14, 2012, 02:36:28 PM
How about:- Moyes to Spudland, Hughes to Everton, Arry to QPR, Eck to Rangers[hohoho], McCoist back to TV, Holloway to Norwich, ? tto Blackpool.
Or:
Moyes to Spudland, Holloway to Everton, McCoist to Blackpool, TSM to Rangers.
Or:
Moyes to Spudland, Holloway to Everton, TSM to Blackpool.

Is this the best managerial merry go round ever?!

The presence of TSM makes it more of a death slide than a merry-go-round
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: not3bad on June 14, 2012, 02:37:22 PM
How about:- Moyes to Spudland, Hughes to Everton, Arry to QPR, Eck to Rangers[hohoho], McCoist back to TV, Holloway to Norwich, ? tto Blackpool.
Or:
Moyes to Spudland, Holloway to Everton, McCoist to Blackpool, TSM to Rangers.
Or:
Moyes to Spudland, Holloway to Everton, TSM to Blackpool.

Is this the best managerial merry go round ever?!

The presence of TSM makes it more of a death slide than a merry-go-round

Or Russian Roulette!
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Karl Bridges on June 14, 2012, 02:47:17 PM
Imagine going from watching Holloway's Blackpool full of attacking intent to Mcleish's sit back try to nick something attitude. I reckon a mob would chuck him off the tower.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: N'ZMAV on June 14, 2012, 02:49:02 PM
McLeish won't ever work in England again.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: PaulWinch again on June 14, 2012, 02:50:21 PM
McLeish won't ever work in England again.

I'm sure he will, but it'll probably be in The Championship in the first instance.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: maidstonevillain on June 14, 2012, 03:13:24 PM
I agree ozzbert. Redknapp is a self publicist. But he did a fantastic job with spurs. Even when we were vying for the top 4 with them, I regularly was jealous about the quality of football spurs fans were getting to watch compared to the plodding stuff we were increasingly sitting through.

Question: if this had happened a month ago, would villa fans have wanted Harry ahead of Lambert? Not that Harry would have fitted the profile our board wanted. But there's no doubt his sides have always played good football. His Portsmouth side used to play us off the park regularly too.

I think the more pertinent question is-would Lambert have gone to Spurs ahead of Villa.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: N'ZMAV on June 14, 2012, 03:18:18 PM
I agree ozzbert. Redknapp is a self publicist. But he did a fantastic job with spurs. Even when we were vying for the top 4 with them, I regularly was jealous about the quality of football spurs fans were getting to watch compared to the plodding stuff we were increasingly sitting through.

Question: if this had happened a month ago, would villa fans have wanted Harry ahead of Lambert? Not that Harry would have fitted the profile our board wanted. But there's no doubt his sides have always played good football. His Portsmouth side used to play us off the park regularly too.

I think the more pertinent question is-would Lambert have gone to Spurs ahead of Villa.
Without a doubt.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Le Lapin on June 14, 2012, 03:28:07 PM
Thank God we got Bert in before Arry went. We can sit back and look at the poor Everton fans shitting themselves for the next few weeks.
But Moyes might not leave. If Moyes has Felliani and Jelavic in his team next season, why would jump into a Spurs pressure cooker to deal with a team that someone else has built. A champs league place is what he'll need to bringing in at a minimum next May.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: The Laughing Policeman on June 14, 2012, 03:30:16 PM
This is turning into the maddest game of musical chairs ever.
So far a quarter of PL clubs have changed or are in the process of changing their managers. Hopefully TSM will be the last man standing. One things for sure, the opening few weeks of the new season are going to be very interesting indeed.
Of all the new men can we start guessing who will be the first casualty? I reckon it'll be Brendan Rodgers. Just a feeling.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on June 14, 2012, 03:33:10 PM
I think they'll stick with Rogers, They have to really
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Concrete John on June 14, 2012, 03:34:07 PM
I can see RDM being the first to get the bullet.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: spangley1812 on June 14, 2012, 03:34:54 PM
I think that Taggart wants Moyes to replace him @ Utd at the end of next season so it will be interesting to see what happens and I also note that RDM has only been given a 2 year deal at Chelski so when Guardiola is available next year Chelsea would only have to pay a years compo to him. If City dont win the league again and get to the Champions league semis at least then Mancini may be on his bike as well   
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: N'ZMAV on June 14, 2012, 03:35:28 PM
I reckon Liverpool would have taken Redknapp and Spurs would have taken Rodgers.....
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: N'ZMAV on June 14, 2012, 03:37:01 PM
Moyes would be perfect for any PL club apart from Arsenal or Liverpool. He is a class act. I wanted him at Villa.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Clampy on June 14, 2012, 03:38:39 PM
I can see RDM being the first to get the bullet.

That would'nt surprise me. He won the Champions League and the F.A Cup and they still took an age to give him the job.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: damon loves JT on June 14, 2012, 03:39:32 PM
it's really difficult to know what Moyes would do anywhere except Everton. He might be amazing. He might be gash.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: badluckeric(gates) on June 14, 2012, 03:40:13 PM
I don't know about merry go round, this thread should be renamed managers musical chairs.
When the music stops in august i'm betting its Eck without a chair!
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: TheSandman on June 14, 2012, 03:41:34 PM
How long, I wonder, until MON's agent, Oliver Holt, starts putting him forward for the Spurs job (despite him being about the least suitable candidate out there)?

What is most amusing of all is that Pubey was never mentioned once in connection with his beloved Liverpool job when that was available earlier this summer. I think his chance of a big job has gone.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Irish villain on June 14, 2012, 03:43:46 PM
He already had a big job at villa!

This thread is such a hoot!
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Sexual Ealing on June 14, 2012, 03:49:03 PM
How long, I wonder, until MON's agent, Oliver Holt, starts putting him forward for the Spurs job (despite him being about the least suitable candidate out there)?

What is most amusing of all is that Pubey was never mentioned once in connection with his beloved Liverpool job when that was available earlier this summer. I think his chance of a big job has gone.

Wasn't manager of Sunderland earlier this summer?
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Billy Walker on June 14, 2012, 05:21:41 PM
How long, I wonder, until MON's agent, Oliver Holt, starts putting him forward for the Spurs job (despite him being about the least suitable candidate out there)?

What is most amusing of all is that Pubey was never mentioned once in connection with his beloved Liverpool job when that was available earlier this summer. I think his chance of a big job has gone.

Without wanting to open the debate up again I really don't think he would have left us to go to Liverpool.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: KevinGage on June 14, 2012, 05:34:53 PM
How long, I wonder, until MON's agent, Oliver Holt, starts putting him forward for the Spurs job (despite him being about the least suitable candidate out there)?

What is most amusing of all is that Pubey was never mentioned once in connection with his beloved Liverpool job when that was available earlier this summer. I think his chance of a big job has gone.

Without wanting to open the debate up again I really don't think he would have left us to go to Liverpool.

Not what wee Barry Bannan and Kenny Dalglish said.  To name two. 

He'd have crawled there on bended knee.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: PaulWinch again on June 14, 2012, 05:36:50 PM
He would have gone absolutely certainly.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Sexual Ealing on June 14, 2012, 05:56:26 PM
How long, I wonder, until MON's agent, Oliver Holt, starts putting him forward for the Spurs job (despite him being about the least suitable candidate out there)?

What is most amusing of all is that Pubey was never mentioned once in connection with his beloved Liverpool job when that was available earlier this summer. I think his chance of a big job has gone.

Without wanting to open the debate up again I really don't think he would have left us to go to Liverpool.



He'd have crawled there on bended knee.

Is there another way to crawl?
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Bren'd on June 14, 2012, 06:00:58 PM
How long, I wonder, until MON's agent, Oliver Holt, starts putting him forward for the Spurs job (despite him being about the least suitable candidate out there)?

What is most amusing of all is that Pubey was never mentioned once in connection with his beloved Liverpool job when that was available earlier this summer. I think his chance of a big job has gone.

Without wanting to open the debate up again I really don't think he would have left us to go to Liverpool.

Not what wee Barry Bannan and Kenny Dalglish said.  To name two. 

He'd have crawled there on bended knee.

Over hot coals and broken glass too.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: KevinGage on June 14, 2012, 06:10:21 PM
I agree ozzbert. Redknapp is a self publicist. But he did a fantastic job with spurs. Even when we were vying for the top 4 with them, I regularly was jealous about the quality of football spurs fans were getting to watch compared to the plodding stuff we were increasingly sitting through.

Question: if this had happened a month ago, would villa fans have wanted Harry ahead of Lambert? Not that Harry would have fitted the profile our board wanted. But there's no doubt his sides have always played good football. His Portsmouth side used to play us off the park regularly too.

Agreed.  Dislike the bloke, but he's the closest thing to BFR still in circulation. A players manager, whose sides generally play the game the right way. And being honest, how many of us liked BFR before he came to the Villa?  There are blips on the CV, most notably Southampton.  But pretty much everywhere else he's got a good response.

Happy with the Lambert appointment, especially compared to some of the nightmare names doing the rounds.
But were there still a vacancy now (and providing he wanted it, obv) I'd look past my personal dislike of the Toby Jug faced one.

There is promise with Lambert, but many questions too. He is -to all intents and purposes- still learning the ropes.   'arry is the finished article.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: KevinGage on June 14, 2012, 06:14:17 PM
How long, I wonder, until MON's agent, Oliver Holt, starts putting him forward for the Spurs job (despite him being about the least suitable candidate out there)?

What is most amusing of all is that Pubey was never mentioned once in connection with his beloved Liverpool job when that was available earlier this summer. I think his chance of a big job has gone.

Without wanting to open the debate up again I really don't think he would have left us to go to Liverpool.



He'd have crawled there on bended knee.

Is there another way to crawl?

Fill up threads with support for the coward, as you and VD used to?

Some first rate crawling, that.   (winky effort)
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Sexual Ealing on June 14, 2012, 06:39:26 PM
Oh, THAT type of crawling to another location.

There I was thinking that you'd crippled your metaphor.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: KevinGage on June 14, 2012, 06:58:51 PM

I did that too, I multi task.

But it was a love tap, rather than a full on punishment beating. 
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: ozzjim on June 14, 2012, 07:02:25 PM
Calm down, calm down. Uncle Dave has been on the blower. He was reportedly out of breath having spunked all over his own face on the caption on SSN, but Spurs have not made an approach for Woberto. Good to know Uncle Dave, good to know.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: supertom on June 14, 2012, 07:28:53 PM
No sooner did Redknapp come out the other day denying he was walking out on Spurs and acting morally outraged, I knew within a matter of days the fucker would be gone. He talks absolute fucking shite. I'm so glad Hodgson got the England job. I couldn't bare watching England if they became part of the Arry soap opera.

Where does Arry go now though? He can't get a bigger job. I don't care or anything, but I'm curious to see where he ends up. Possibly getting paid a shit load abroad maybe.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: villainjock on June 14, 2012, 11:11:54 PM
how the mighty potato head has fallen, their chairman is like the pissed up father-in-law at the wedding speech.[ Invalid YouTube link ]
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: VILLA MOLE on June 14, 2012, 11:15:08 PM
how the mighty potato head has fallen, their chairman is like the pissed up father-in-law at the wedding speech.[ Invalid YouTube link ]


he does look abit like " what the fuck have i done here ?"
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: cb on June 14, 2012, 11:33:59 PM
Will be interesting to see what happens Spurs now. Could see them going back to being the schizo club they were before Redknapp arrived. He's extremely annoying, but also a very good manager, so I'm very glad to see him gone from Tottenham...
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Newby on June 15, 2012, 12:11:27 AM
I think Spuds threw everything they had at going for the Champs League.  Harry isn't backward and coming forward when it comes to leaving clubs in the shit financially and I reckon Spurs face some austerity in the next 12 months.  Modric, Bale will go and they won't sing Adebayor.  I can see them going for someone like Holloway as Manager too. Try to and sell it as bringign in a good footballing, young manager like other clubs have.  Fuck Tottenham.  I hate the way they think they are a massive club, they've won very little for a very long time and really flatter to deceive.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: damon loves JT on June 15, 2012, 12:27:18 AM
Apparently Redknapp sacked his agent and hired Paul Stretford six months ago. Since when Stretford has been touting him for employment, notably at Liverpool. I'm not surprised Levy has got rid. The idea of him as England manager makes me shudder.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Dave Clark Five on June 15, 2012, 07:34:27 AM
how the mighty potato head has fallen, their chairman is like the pissed up father-in-law at the wedding speech.[ Invalid YouTube link ]
How long did it take him to get the cap off that bottle of water?
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: sid1964 on June 15, 2012, 08:26:16 AM
According to the Mirror (I know)McLeish has been linked to the Besiktas job....I bet there fans are now choking on there kebabs!!!
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: PaulTheVillan on June 15, 2012, 08:27:26 AM
According to the Mirror (I know)McLeish has been linked to the Besiktas job....I bet there fans are now choking on there kebabs!!!
Give me an ecking job  (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/besiktas-want-alex-mcleish-as-manager-882994)
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: badluckeric(gates) on June 15, 2012, 09:31:05 AM
Hello, earth calling Dave Whelan...come in please....nobody actually wants your man...he's won a couple of games for fucking WIGAN!
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: ClaretAndBlueBlood on June 15, 2012, 09:39:10 AM
Modric, Bale will go and they won't sing Adebayor.

I guess they will only sing Adebayor if they sign him
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Concrete John on June 15, 2012, 09:42:00 AM
If Spurs are putting the breaks on financially, what they'll need is an up and coming manager for who their job will be a big step up, but will take it without millions to spend.  Both Lambert or Rodgers would have been ideal for them, but they've missed out.

Martinez is probably the best candidate out there domestically, but if they do continue to spend then they'll be in the market at the level of Moyes, AVB or Rafa.   
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: The Laughing Policeman on June 15, 2012, 12:01:51 PM
On 5Live......Michael Laudrup to Swansea.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: garyshawsknee on June 15, 2012, 12:06:13 PM
It'll be interesting to see how he gets on there,as I mentioned his name for the Villa job.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Bren'd on June 15, 2012, 01:27:23 PM
He's got an interesting Managerial career so far.  Lasting just a season at his last 3 clubs.  If he makes anything like a success at Swansea he will be gone the following season for something bigger.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on June 15, 2012, 01:53:03 PM
It looks like Spurs are after Villas-Boas. Decent move if it comes off.

I can only see Redknapp going to somewhere like Qatar. There's nothing left for him here and he's too old to sit it out and wait.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Bren'd on June 15, 2012, 04:37:50 PM
It looks like Spurs are after Villas-Boas. Decent move if it comes off.

I can only see Redknapp going to somewhere like Qatar. There's nothing left for him here and he's too old to sit it out and wait.

I don't think so.  He can have a nice break now and come Christmas there will be plenty of takers for his services.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: charlie on June 15, 2012, 05:55:41 PM
See a certain Scottish Turkey is supposedly heading for Besiktas, interesting possible mix of temperaments. Could spend big money buying some old boys.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: john e on June 15, 2012, 06:21:39 PM
if Harry does manage in this country again i dont think it will be with as big a club as Spurs.

i think the court case did for him, both with Spurs and England.

yes i know he was cleared,
 but when he started to play the simpleton card about reading and writing, and then the bank account in his dogs name, it made him look like a right dodgy geezer, and a bit of a laughing stock, the FA didnt want to be anywhere near all that sort of nonsense and nor did Spurs by the looks of things.

the court case painted him in a very bad light, both intellectually and morally he's to old to recover from that now
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Toronto Villa on June 15, 2012, 06:23:24 PM
It looks like Spurs are after Villas-Boas. Decent move if it comes off.

I can only see Redknapp going to somewhere like Qatar. There's nothing left for him here and he's too old to sit it out and wait.

whoever it is, he'll have to contend with a summer of chaos at the club. By not being in CL, that's players like Modric, Bale and VDV likely gone. They won't pay Adebayor's wages either. Their CB's are average, and Brad while still good is a year older. Spurs are still a very attractive club to want to be at so they'll still be able to get good players, but it will be a very different Tottenham in my opinion come August. Whichever manager takes over he won't have the money Redknapp had which I imagine in MON style, caused the end of his time at the club. MON quit, whereas Levy had enough and told Harry to do one.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Newby on June 15, 2012, 10:40:29 PM
See a certain Scottish Turkey is supposedly heading for Besiktas, interesting possible mix of temperaments. Could spend big money buying some old boys.

The poor fuckers.  I hope they like anti-football.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: bertlambshank on June 16, 2012, 10:05:47 PM
AVB Spurs 3 year deal.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Stu on June 16, 2012, 10:33:08 PM
Hello, earth calling Dave Whelan...come in please....nobody actually wants your man...he's won a couple of games for fucking WIGAN!

At it again is he? Martinez won't leave because no one wants him, Dave, you silly old windbag.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: richard moore on June 16, 2012, 10:40:48 PM
AVB Spurs 3 year deal.

Risky in my view which is excellent news...
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: tomd2103 on June 17, 2012, 01:26:25 AM
Son't want to get carried away, but with a number of clubs who finished above us last season making pretty underwhelming managerial appointments, could we see a sharper rise up the table next season than most of us would expect?
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Percy McCarthy on June 17, 2012, 05:12:05 AM
Yes.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: richard moore on June 17, 2012, 07:48:51 AM
Son't want to get carried away, but with a number of clubs who finished above us last season making pretty underwhelming managerial appointments, could we see a sharper rise up the table next season than most of us would expect?

I think so. I've always said the Premier League these days is very flat and even from about position 6 or 7 downwards. Despite us trying to be as shocking as possible last season with zero confidence for much of it too, there is actually nothing that much to choose between the likes of us and, say, Stoke or even Everton or Newcastle
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: lovejoy on June 17, 2012, 08:13:00 AM
Apart from 27 points.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: richard moore on June 17, 2012, 10:56:41 AM
Apart from 27 points.

True, true but we probably finished 27 points ahead of Bolton a couple of seasons ago! One of the great and frustrating things about football is that the fortunes of most teams can change very quickly. We at the Villa know that perhaps as well as any other team in the Premier league in terms of being a team that has yo yo'ed a lot up and down the league without ever getting relegated from it
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: frank on June 17, 2012, 11:21:22 AM
Son't want to get carried away, but with a number of clubs who finished above us last season making pretty underwhelming managerial appointments, could we see a sharper rise up the table next season than most of us would expect?
Last season was dire, but we drew almost half of our matches. With a more positive attitude next season, a more effective manager and a stronger squad we must be able to turn a number of those draws into wins. I agree - I think we'll be up with Everton and Liverpool, possibly higher.












Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Damo70 on June 18, 2012, 05:16:12 PM
It is too early to say when Spurs have yet to appoint a new manager and there is still plenty of transfer deals to be done but I think there are a lot of teams we could potentially finish above if we get our act together with decent signings and decent form. As well as the three promoted sides (who admittedly could all do OK but we should still be looking to finish above them) I reckon Wigan will struggle again. Norwich, Swansea and Newcastle will all struggle to do as well as last season. There is nothing to suggest so far that Everton, Sunderland, Stoke, Fulham, QPR or Albion will be any better than average. Added to that I don't think Liverpool or Spurs will be fantastic so it just leaves the 'Champions League four'. I would have them down as next season's top four but even then I think a number of teams could take points off Arsenal and Chelsea. I reckon there is a real opportunity for someone to do what Newcastle did last year.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: The Laughing Policeman on June 21, 2012, 07:48:55 PM
I see Klinsman has got the pundit gig for tonights game. I can't imagine that the BBC are paying him enough to make it worth his while to fly 6,000 miles.
Could he be heading to North London after the game?
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: OCD on June 21, 2012, 07:55:07 PM
Is he still the US coach?
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: VillaAlways on July 03, 2012, 02:04:45 PM
AVB announced new Spurs boss Unfortunately I think he'll do well there
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: damon loves JT on July 03, 2012, 02:44:32 PM
AVB announced new Spurs boss Unfortunately I think he'll do well there

Perversely I hope he does well. I don't like Spurs but I like him.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 03, 2012, 02:45:36 PM
Shame. I quite like him but don't want Spurs to do well.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: damon loves JT on July 03, 2012, 02:52:21 PM
Shame. I quite like him but don't want Spurs to do well.

Think of it as a really shit film where you like one of the actors. Like that Batman where Heath Ledger was the Joker
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 03, 2012, 02:59:25 PM
I like AVB too and think he got the shitty end of the stick at Chelsea.

My dislike for Spurs, however, exceeds my liking of AVB, so it's a "hope it all goes to tit" from me, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: not3bad on July 03, 2012, 03:04:27 PM
He'll have an £80 million war chest according to the London Evening Standard.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Bren'd on July 03, 2012, 03:05:49 PM
Can't see AVB doing any better at Spurs than he did at Chelsea really.  It will take  time to see the benefit of his systems come to fruition. We're an impatient lot Spurs fans are worse, it will end in tears.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Concrete John on July 03, 2012, 03:09:37 PM
I have no great opinion on AVB, other then thinking he got a rough deal at Chelsea.  I'm not sure how the Spurs fans will take to him as their delusion is such that they'll think they're above having a failed Chelsea manager.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 03, 2012, 03:11:26 PM
He'll have an £80 million war chest according to the London Evening Standard.

ah...the use of the term "war chest". Never has any term been so misused as that one.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Woofles The Wonder Dog on July 03, 2012, 03:23:55 PM
He'll have an £80 million war chest according to the London Evening Standard.

ah...the use of the term "war chest". Never has any term been so misused as that one.

How about this use?

(http://mimg.ugo.com/200812/17265/cuts/red-sonja_288x288.jpg)

Careful with that axe Sonja
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Chipsticks on July 03, 2012, 03:32:12 PM
I still think that we've made the best appointment so far.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 03, 2012, 03:34:42 PM
He'll have an £80 million war chest according to the London Evening Standard.

ah...the use of the term "war chest". Never has any term been so misused as that one.

How about this use?

(http://mimg.ugo.com/200812/17265/cuts/red-sonja_288x288.jpg)

Careful with that axe Sonja

that is a very appropriate use of the term "war chest"
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: VillaAlways on July 12, 2012, 11:11:43 AM
Forest sack Cotterill having been taken over by mega rich owners and guess who the leading contender is :

The poor sods
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11727/7890967/McLeish-in-Forest-frame
http://www.forest.vitalfootball.co.uk/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=21095&posts=19





Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: not3bad on July 12, 2012, 11:28:43 AM
Other contenders include Mick McCarthy and Neil Warnock.  The Forest fans must be spewing.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: UK Redsox on July 12, 2012, 11:34:25 AM
Other contenders include Mick McCarthy and Neil Warnock.  The Forest fans must be spewing.

What about Sven ?
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: paulcomben on July 12, 2012, 11:37:10 AM
Roy Keane?
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: VillaAlways on July 12, 2012, 11:40:08 AM
Other contenders include Mick McCarthy and Neil Warnock.  The Forest fans must be spewing.

They are :
http://www.forestforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=32668



Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: paulcomben on July 12, 2012, 11:41:53 AM
Those clever Forest fans have got Eck sussed, for sure.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: not3bad on July 12, 2012, 12:02:24 PM
Those clever Forest fans have got Eck sussed, for sure.

Quote
No personality, plays shit football and is ginger!

No thanks!
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: The Laughing Policeman on July 12, 2012, 04:15:03 PM
Oh what fun if TSM gets the Forest gig before we play them.  ;D
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: villastikz on July 12, 2012, 04:21:37 PM
Those clever Forest fans have got Eck sussed, for sure.

Yeah but we had him sussed, didn't stop him getting the job tho
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Damo70 on July 12, 2012, 05:34:24 PM
They reckon the main men in the frame for the Forest job are McLeish, Warnock, McCarthy and Redknapp. Suddenly in that context 'Arry looks like the greatest manager in the history of football.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: The Laughing Policeman on July 12, 2012, 06:00:26 PM
Apparently 'Arry has said 'No fank you'.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Damo70 on July 12, 2012, 06:06:34 PM
So far it looks like he has a choice between Russia or Nottingham. Does he know Nottingham is nearer to Sandbanks or is his geography as bad as his reading and writing?
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: VILLA MOLE on July 12, 2012, 06:09:00 PM
So far it looks like he has a choice between Russia or Nottingham. Does he know Nottingham is nearer to Sandbanks or is his geography as bad as his reading and writing?

no his cat sorts out all his logistics , dog finance , Sandra scores the goals
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 12, 2012, 06:14:27 PM
Apparently 'Arry has said 'No fank you'.

sorry, but that won't be official until he says it from the window of his car. And even then the chin-o-meter as to whether he's telling the truth will be going mental.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: damon loves JT on July 13, 2012, 09:49:32 AM
When he was West Ham manager I had to go and do an interview with him at the training ground. I think it was the day they got done for fielding an ineligible player against us.

Anyway he agreed to to the interview, walked straight round the other side of the building, got in his car and drove off.

I formed an instant impression of how much I'd trust him.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: cheltenhamlion on July 13, 2012, 12:53:49 PM
TSM to Forest? A lad who works for me is a Forest. Oh the fun I could have if that comes to fruition.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Percy McCarthy on July 14, 2012, 11:05:55 PM
Why, is he a forest of cider apple trees?
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: villastikz on July 15, 2012, 11:31:17 AM
It's reported Mick McCarthy is a name short listed by Forrest
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: peter w on July 15, 2012, 11:39:01 AM
That's the problem when there's a vacancy. You talk about Benitez, Capello, Eriksson, Blanc, Bilic, Advocaat,Hiddinck etc etc. What you get is either Bruce, Keane, McLeish, or Curbishley. Or Lee Clarke.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: DrGonzo on November 24, 2012, 12:19:29 PM
Right let's get this little bugger back into action..."not been posted in for 120 days"??  "please consider starting a new topic"?
Pah! If it ain't broke don't fix it!!  This is about recycling!

Hughes going to a bigger club?? Lolzor!  Poor old Bobby D shown the door by Roman "The Axeman" Ambramovich.
Old Saggy face confirmed at the sinking ship, and everyones favourite Fat Man back in the Prem...for now.  It's a beautiful thing ladies and gents.  At least with Hangdog back we can enjoy some fine tapping up manoeuveres in January.  And how long before fergie causes Benitez to implode and create a black hole that will suck the entire Barclays Premier League into a howling vortex of pain?
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: not3bad on November 24, 2012, 01:35:38 PM
And how long before fergie causes Benitez to implode and create a black hole that will suck the entire Barclays Premier League into a howling vortex of pain?

The wind ups have already started.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: ozzjim on November 24, 2012, 01:38:40 PM
Well it means Bent will certainly not be off to QPR in Jan!
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: ozzjim on November 24, 2012, 07:36:35 PM
Rumours that Martin has offered his resignation. Interesting times.


Oh and Tony Adams - MON is not an honourable man!
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: exigo on November 24, 2012, 07:40:55 PM
Let's hope Sunderland don't accept. He could take them down single-handedly.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Grande Pablo on November 24, 2012, 07:41:29 PM
Rumours that Martin has offered his resignation. Interesting times.


Oh and Tony Adams - MON is not an honourable man!

I beat you by 4 seconds - must count for something...
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 24, 2012, 07:43:59 PM
Martin O'Neill an honourable man, says Tony Adams.

The facts suggest otherwise, walked out on Villa the first time the going got tough, looks like he's doing the same at Sunderland.

What a bottle merchant.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: ozzjim on November 24, 2012, 07:46:44 PM
Rumours that Martin has offered his resignation. Interesting times.


Oh and Tony Adams - MON is not an honourable man!

I beat you by 4 seconds - must count for something...


Beating me by 4 seconds is nothing to be proud of trust me!
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: ChrissyPrice on November 24, 2012, 07:47:40 PM
If he has, then maybe time for the media to take stock and remove their tongues from his backside.

But I doubt it.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: The Situation on November 24, 2012, 07:49:17 PM
People say all sorts of things on Twitter so I wouldn't be drawing conclusions right now. It might be just rumors, it be might be true... Would be very cowardly and pathetic if he decided to resign.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 24, 2012, 07:56:52 PM
What a fool. If he'd quit last week he could have had the Chelsea job.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 24, 2012, 07:58:12 PM
What a fool. If he'd quit last week he could have had the Chelsea job.

I reckon he's eyeing Brendan Rodgers at Liverpool, convinced he's going to get a pop at the job he really covets.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: citizenDJ on November 24, 2012, 07:59:43 PM
Let's not forget that the Brazil job is currently up for grabs*.



*I think...
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Steve R on November 24, 2012, 08:01:56 PM
I doubt O'Neill has resigned. He's shagged the coffers up there and the shit is in danger of hitting the fan. I can't believe he'd just throw in the towel in circumstances like that.

Especially as the Chelsea job has now gone.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: eastie on November 24, 2012, 08:02:46 PM
Collymore seems sure  that's it's a credible source and mon has offered resignation due to family reasons- hope his wife is not ill again, I thought he looked distant this season and not his old self.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 24, 2012, 08:04:43 PM
If it is because of his wife or family then I wish him well. If it's because he's actually not very good then he can go fuck himself the pube-headed judas dwarf.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: ozzjim on November 24, 2012, 08:06:37 PM
Collymore seems sure  that's it's a credible source and mon has offered resignation due to family reasons- hope his wife is not ill again, I thought he looked distant this season and not his old self.

I thought he is starting to look 60.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: PaulWinch again on November 24, 2012, 08:07:25 PM
If it is because of his wife or family then I wish him well. If it's because he's actually not very good then he can go fuck himself the pube-headed judas dwarf.

Agreed.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: bob on November 24, 2012, 08:25:20 PM
Sunderland have denied it.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Jon Crofts on November 24, 2012, 08:37:58 PM
Which probably means he has and they need to speak to a lawyer on Monday morning.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: eastie on November 24, 2012, 08:40:11 PM
Wouldn't be surprised to mark Hughes popping up on wearside if o Neill goes.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on November 24, 2012, 09:00:58 PM
Which probably means he has and they need to speak to a lawyer on Monday morning.

If Sunderland had any sense then from the day they appointed him they have carried tape recorders and kept written notes of any conversation with MON.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: CJ on November 24, 2012, 09:17:03 PM
Obviously what's happened is now that Redknob has gone to QPR he knows that pinnacle of managerial opportunity- the Ukraine job - is up for grabs.  ;)
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Risso on November 24, 2012, 10:41:42 PM
If it was family reasons surely he'd just resign, rather than offer to?
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: supertom on November 25, 2012, 06:29:28 AM
Has O Neill finally worked out that he's not the messiah, he's just a very naughty boy? Maybe the goings getting tough at Sunderland and he doesn't like it. They've hardly taken to him. His stock has fallen a lot since leaving us.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Lizz on November 25, 2012, 08:46:46 AM
Has O Neill finally worked out that he's not the messiah, he's just a very naughty boy? Maybe the goings getting tough at Sunderland and he doesn't like it. They've hardly taken to him. His stock has fallen a lot since leaving us.

If he has/is about to resign, I think it's more a case of he's realised people have finally seen through his and the media's previous portrayal of him. Though I think some in the media sense the MON myth is exactly that, a myth.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: eastie on November 25, 2012, 09:19:38 AM
Seems according to media reports that he is having a meeting with Ellis short today, wouldn't be surprised to see him bow out of football now and concentrate on media work- his time has been and gone.-



ESPN sources have confirmed that Sunderland manager Martin O'Neill has not handed in his resignation after reports suggested he was ready to quit the club following the 4-2 defeat to high-flying West Brom.
Sunderland have won one game in their last eight and are three points off the drop zone in the Premier League table as they languish in 16th place.
The defeat to the Baggies triggered reports that O'Neill, who joined the club in December 2011 while they were in the relegation zone and engineered a turnaround which ultimately saw them finish 13th last season, had quit.
But, while owner Ellis Short will meet with O'Neill this weekend to discuss the club's position, the Northern Irishman has not thrown in the towel yet .
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: basavfc on November 25, 2012, 11:25:46 AM
I personally have not one ounce of sympathy for him(especially)or any other multi millionaire epl manager.
FUCK MODERN FOOTBALL
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: eastie on November 25, 2012, 11:38:14 AM

MARTIN O’NEILL insists he will quit if his Sunderland nightmare continues..
O’Neill, who joined the club in December 2011 after Steve brice got the boot, is confident he can turn it around and only has to think back to mentor Brian Clough’s poor start to his Nottingham Forest reign.
Old Big ‘Ead struggled badly before landing domestic and European glory.
O’Neill could do with some Cloughie magic right now and admitted: “I want to do really well here at the football club.
“It’s slow but I don’t want it to be a decade because I won’t get the time, but we’ll get there. That is my genuine view.
“There is a timescale because I have a contract. And if I have not lifted the side into a proper position, I will move over and give it to someone else, who would be better equipped. But that hasn’t happened yet.”
Heaven knows what Clough would have thought of the Ulsterman’s current Mackems crop but O’Neill added: “It sounds crazy but before Peter Taylor joined him, he had a year and a half at Forest where he did not improve the team one jot. We may even have gone backwards.
“We were struggling as a mid-table Second Division side until Peter joined up with him and he got renewed vigour.
“We had plenty of bad times and he just told us to stick in together. Lesser managers probably said the same thing, but when he said it, you felt there was something behind it.
“And that is what we must do and we’ll come through it.”
The former Celtic boss, 60, rubbished claims his stand-off management style is to blame and admitted: “It makes me laugh about this myth that I don’t go on the training ground.
“I wish that was so. I allow my coaches to coach but I’m there — there’s no more important time to be there than when you’re having a tough spell.”


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Irish villain on November 25, 2012, 11:41:05 AM
Reminds me of the rumours flying around after the 7-1 defeat to Chelsea.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Clampy on November 25, 2012, 11:46:19 AM
Reminds me of the rumours flying around after the 7-1 defeat to Chelsea.

I was there that day, did we have someone sent off, i can't remember. Don't remember the rumours afterwards though.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: David_Nab on November 25, 2012, 12:04:45 PM
No sending off  we were just completely hopeless that day.We were so bad even Beye got on the pitch ...

This the team from that day

Aston Villa
01 Friedel
02 L Young
05 Dunneyellow card
25 Warnock
29 Collins
04 Sidwell
07 A Young
08 Milner
19 Petrovyellow card (Downing 63)
10 Carew (Delfouneso 63)
11 Agbonlahor (Beye 71)
Substitutes
22 Guzan, 15 Davies, 23 Beye, 24 Cuellar, 06 Downing, 17 Salifou, 14 Delfouneso
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: OCD on November 25, 2012, 12:25:57 PM
O'Neill's standard 4-4-2 and the side were fucked by March from there being no rotation.

QPR could beat Sunderland on Tuesday which would only put more pressure on O'Neill to resign. I hate it when teams like QPR change their manager right before we're due to play them.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on November 25, 2012, 01:13:08 PM

MARTIN O’NEILL insists he will quit if his Sunderland nightmare continues..


Hmm. Sounds like his old Celtic tactic.

Unlike there though, they won't be falling over themselves to keep him happy.

He's been found out, had he have accepted some limitations on his spending, wages wise, with us, he could still be here today.
I'll bet he kicks himself on a regular basis, the odious little twerp.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: KevinGage on November 25, 2012, 01:21:49 PM
Playing the old Cloughie card again. 

He's a decent manager - even with Slumberland's  slow start to the season, I'd expect them to get out of trouble.

But he isn't a fraction of the manager (or man)  Clough was.   
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on November 25, 2012, 01:34:47 PM
Playing the old Cloughie card again. 

He's a decent manager - even with Slumberland's  slow start to the season, I'd expect them to get out of trouble.

But he isn't a fraction of the manager (or man)  Clough was.   

Quite right. He's once again aping the way Clough used to threaten to piss off when he couldn't get his way.
Also tries to copy Clough's direct, witty style in interviews, but fails miserably.

Think he''ll walk as soon as the Sunderland fans dare to moan en masse at him at a home game, he'll throw his dollies out the pram at the sheer cheek of ordinary, thick supporters questioning his abilities.

Enormous fun to watch.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: ozzjim on November 25, 2012, 01:37:55 PM
He won't quit directly. He will offer his resignation, and if taken then take the club for all they have for wrongful dismissal.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: garyfouroaks on November 25, 2012, 07:29:38 PM
The absence of any credible alternative ensures MON will be around at the SOl for a while.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: OCD on November 25, 2012, 08:04:46 PM
Di Matteo was being linked with the Southampton job this morning. It wouldn't surprise me if he was linked with the Sunderland job in the next few days.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Dave Javu on November 25, 2012, 08:08:28 PM
I personally have not one ounce of sympathy for him(especially)or any other multi millionaire epl manager.
FUCK MODERN FOOTBALL

What on earth is "epl"?

I think you might have contracted the disease.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 25, 2012, 10:34:14 PM
I personally have not one ounce of sympathy for him(especially)or any other multi millionaire epl manager.
FUCK MODERN FOOTBALL

What on earth is "epl"?


A seventies prog band. You've surely heard of their Fanfare for the Dyslexic Man?
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Davey B on November 26, 2012, 01:06:56 AM
Collymore seems sure  that's it's a credible source and mon has offered resignation due to family reasons- hope his wife is not ill again, I thought he looked distant this season and not his old self.

I've just read a bit of the MON crap on this thread ......  :D Collymore's source is a twitter or whatever you call it, from a wind-up merchant pretending to be a secret football agent. A bloke hiding behind a computer keyboard who won't put his name to what he says ..... FFS man.  :)

It's bollox ....... the internet is filled with tossers making up shit like this, pretend in-the-knows posting shite to get attention! Same crap as when the transfer window is coming around, "i've heard from my mate, who's cousin is the cleaner in the managers office, that such and such was in for talks, and was also seen the local chippy by my other mates Aunty Mabel .... he's signing tomorrow ..... it's nailed on ..... etc etc!" I'll believe it when i see it confirmed by someone credible. The one thing i can gather about Ellis Short is he doesn't like quiters. If MON had offered, Short would have chased him there and then. If MON doesn't sort it out, he'll be gone, there will be no f#cking about with him.

Believe this crap if you want to, but it's bollox.  ;D 
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: ozzjim on November 26, 2012, 07:24:06 AM
Collymore seems sure  that's it's a credible source and mon has offered resignation due to family reasons- hope his wife is not ill again, I thought he looked distant this season and not his old self.

I've just read a bit of the MON crap on this thread ......  :D Collymore's source is a twitter or whatever you call it, from a wind-up merchant pretending to be a secret football agent. A bloke hiding behind a computer keyboard who won't put his name to what he says ..... FFS man.  :)

It's bollox ....... the internet is filled with tossers making up shit like this, pretend in-the-knows posting shite to get attention! Same crap as when the transfer window is coming around, "i've heard from my mate, who's cousin is the cleaner in the managers office, that such and such was in for talks, and was also seen the local chippy by my other mates Aunty Mabel .... he's signing tomorrow ..... it's nailed on ..... etc etc!" I'll believe it when i see it confirmed by someone credible. The one thing i can gather about Ellis Short is he doesn't like quiters. If MON had offered, Short would have chased him there and then. If MON doesn't sort it out, he'll be gone, there will be no f#cking about with him.

Believe this crap if you want to, but it's bollox.  ;D 

It is like a child that keep believing they know best despite a growing body of evidence, they are refusing to acknowledge what others are saying to them!
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: not3bad on November 26, 2012, 11:40:01 AM
I personally have not one ounce of sympathy for him(especially)or any other multi millionaire epl manager.
FUCK MODERN FOOTBALL

What on earth is "epl"?


A seventies prog band. You've surely heard of their Fanfare for the Dyslexic Man?

I prefer EOL.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Davey B on November 26, 2012, 01:11:49 PM
Collymore seems sure  that's it's a credible source and mon has offered resignation due to family reasons- hope his wife is not ill again, I thought he looked distant this season and not his old self.

I've just read a bit of the MON crap on this thread ......  :D Collymore's source is a twitter or whatever you call it, from a wind-up merchant pretending to be a secret football agent. A bloke hiding behind a computer keyboard who won't put his name to what he says ..... FFS man.  :)

It's bollox ....... the internet is filled with tossers making up shit like this, pretend in-the-knows posting shite to get attention! Same crap as when the transfer window is coming around, "i've heard from my mate, who's cousin is the cleaner in the managers office, that such and such was in for talks, and was also seen the local chippy by my other mates Aunty Mabel .... he's signing tomorrow ..... it's nailed on ..... etc etc!" I'll believe it when i see it confirmed by someone credible. The one thing i can gather about Ellis Short is he doesn't like quiters. If MON had offered, Short would have chased him there and then. If MON doesn't sort it out, he'll be gone, there will be no f#cking about with him.

Believe this crap if you want to, but it's bollox.  ;D 

It is like a child that keep believing they know best despite a growing body of evidence, they are refusing to acknowledge what others are saying to them!

 ;D  Now that's funny Jim! Roll on the January Transfer window, can't wait for the fantasy rumours to begin ......  ;) 
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: eastie on November 26, 2012, 01:37:52 PM
It may be hard to take in davey, but mon is far from the messiah- I will be amazed if he is still there by Christmas and wouldn't be surprised if he walked away this week.
We know how he operates and the writing is on the wall.
Mark Hughes and Sunderland- a perfect match.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Davey B on November 26, 2012, 02:04:29 PM
It may be hard to take in davey, but mon is far from the messiah- I will be amazed if he is still there by Christmas and wouldn't be surprised if he walked away this week.
We know how he operates and the writing is on the wall.
Mark Hughes and Sunderland- a perfect match.

 :D Hi Eastie,
i'll be dissapointed if he isn't here after Christmas. The only time i've ever felt Sunderland had brought in a messiah, was when we got Lawrie McMenemy, and look how that turned out!  :'(  I would simply like to see him given the length of his contract to see what he can do here. I'm watching an improvement on Bruce's mess, and i do have reservations about part of what is / or isn't happening. I won't judge the bloke until things are the way he wants them. One of our best players this season, isn't even ours.  :-\  I honestly feel if he's supported, he'll deliver. I felt the same with Bruce up until he started games without a striker, yet had three strikers on the bench. Mark Hughes will not ever be Sunderland manager imo.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Jarpie on November 26, 2012, 02:19:54 PM
It may be hard to take in davey, but mon is far from the messiah- I will be amazed if he is still there by Christmas and wouldn't be surprised if he walked away this week.
We know how he operates and the writing is on the wall.
Mark Hughes and Sunderland- a perfect match.

 :D Hi Eastie,
i'll be dissapointed if he isn't here after Christmas. The only time i've ever felt Sunderland had brought in a messiah, was when we got Lawrie McMenemy, and look how that turned out!  :'(  I would simply like to see him given the length of his contract to see what he can do here. I'm watching an improvement on Bruce's mess, and i do have reservations about part of what is / or isn't happening. I won't judge the bloke until things are the way he wants them. One of our best players this season, isn't even ours.  :-\  I honestly feel if he's supported, he'll deliver. I felt the same with Bruce up until he started games without a striker, yet had three strikers on the bench. Mark Hughes will not ever be Sunderland manager imo.

Just wait for the traditional spring slump what occurs every season with MON. Like many others has said in this forum that the game has passed MON by as he is too one-dimensional and either he is too stubborn to change his style or incapable to change but unless Sunderland hires someone abroad there aren't really any suitable replacements in UK.

When I watch Sunderland's games from telly I see a lot of the same problems in their game as I saw when he was in Villa, especially in the last year of him being in here.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: ozzjim on November 26, 2012, 03:22:15 PM
The difference between Sunderland now and us 3 years back is simply Milner. Sessagnon does similar to what Young did, Johnson is Downing, in every way he was under MON, Fletcher see Gabby, worse footballer, better striker.

But the biggest difference is luck. We rode it, a lot. We nicked a hell of a lot of games through sheer will at times, despite having large periods where the opposition were better than us. That bread confidence and runs continued, but we were rarely fluent enough to win games on ability, it was more often than not through will and attrition.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: eastie on November 26, 2012, 03:28:02 PM
It may be hard to take in davey, but mon is far from the messiah- I will be amazed if he is still there by Christmas and wouldn't be surprised if he walked away this week.
We know how he operates and the writing is on the wall.
Mark Hughes and Sunderland- a perfect match.

 :D Hi Eastie,
i'll be dissapointed if he isn't here after Christmas. The only time i've ever felt Sunderland had brought in a messiah, was when we got Lawrie McMenemy, and look how that turned out!  :'(  I would simply like to see him given the length of his contract to see what he can do here. I'm watching an improvement on Bruce's mess, and i do have reservations about part of what is / or isn't happening. I won't judge the bloke until things are the way he wants them. One of our best players this season, isn't even ours.  :-\  I honestly feel if he's supported, he'll deliver. I felt the same with Bruce up until he started games without a striker, yet had three strikers on the bench. Mark Hughes will not ever be Sunderland manager imo.

I admire your faith in him for now davey,I think he will get a lot of stick if qpr win at your place tomorrow night.
 Any luck yet on the job search pal?
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: PaulTheVillan on November 26, 2012, 03:40:58 PM
The difference between Sunderland now and us 3 years back is simply Milner. Sessagnon does similar to what Young did, Johnson is Downing, in every way he was under MON, Fletcher see Gabby, worse footballer, better striker.

But the biggest difference is luck. We rode it, a lot. We nicked a hell of a lot of games through sheer will at times, despite having large periods where the opposition were better than us. That bread confidence and runs continued, but we were rarely fluent enough to win games on ability, it was more often than not through will and attrition.

Barry?
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: ozzjim on November 26, 2012, 04:09:11 PM
The difference between Sunderland now and us 3 years back is simply Milner. Sessagnon does similar to what Young did, Johnson is Downing, in every way he was under MON, Fletcher see Gabby, worse footballer, better striker.

But the biggest difference is luck. We rode it, a lot. We nicked a hell of a lot of games through sheer will at times, despite having large periods where the opposition were better than us. That bread confidence and runs continued, but we were rarely fluent enough to win games on ability, it was more often than not through will and attrition.

Barry?

No I think that was the season before. Barry went and Milner held us together in the middle of the park in a similar way, they were never really used together in the centre were they, Milner shifted in when Barry left.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Chris Smith on November 26, 2012, 04:16:14 PM
The difference between Sunderland now and us 3 years back is simply Milner. Sessagnon does similar to what Young did, Johnson is Downing, in every way he was under MON, Fletcher see Gabby, worse footballer, better striker.

But the biggest difference is luck. We rode it, a lot. We nicked a hell of a lot of games through sheer will at times, despite having large periods where the opposition were better than us. That bread confidence and runs continued, but we were rarely fluent enough to win games on ability, it was more often than not through will and attrition.

History is being re-written on a daily basis on here lately. We won games because we were difficult to create chances against but had players who could make and take them, that's why we had such an impressive away record. It was at home when teams parked the bus that we tended to find things more difficult.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Davey B on November 26, 2012, 04:25:52 PM
It may be hard to take in davey, but mon is far from the messiah- I will be amazed if he is still there by Christmas and wouldn't be surprised if he walked away this week.
We know how he operates and the writing is on the wall.
Mark Hughes and Sunderland- a perfect match.

 :D Hi Eastie,
i'll be dissapointed if he isn't here after Christmas. The only time i've ever felt Sunderland had brought in a messiah, was when we got Lawrie McMenemy, and look how that turned out!  :'(  I would simply like to see him given the length of his contract to see what he can do here. I'm watching an improvement on Bruce's mess, and i do have reservations about part of what is / or isn't happening. I won't judge the bloke until things are the way he wants them. One of our best players this season, isn't even ours.  :-\  I honestly feel if he's supported, he'll deliver. I felt the same with Bruce up until he started games without a striker, yet had three strikers on the bench. Mark Hughes will not ever be Sunderland manager imo.

I admire your faith in him for now davey,I think he will get a lot of stick if qpr win at your place tomorrow night.
 Any luck yet on the job search pal?

Nah mate, not yet! It's actually getting worse, even the minimum wage non-jobs are not replying to applications ...... and that is worrying! Aye, if QPR turn us over i can see a lot of bedwetters throwing there toys out of the pram. I just hope that the lift that comes with a new gaffer doesn't spark tomorrow night for Harry! It would be nice to bypass our nearest and dearest after how much crap they have thrown at us for being as poor as we have been!  :D  Here's hoping!
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: not3bad on November 26, 2012, 04:30:26 PM
I just hope that the lift that comes with a new gaffer doesn't spark tomorrow night for Harry!

Hopefully it won't come on Saturday either...
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 26, 2012, 04:37:58 PM
The difference between Sunderland now and us 3 years back is simply Milner. Sessagnon does similar to what Young did, Johnson is Downing, in every way he was under MON, Fletcher see Gabby, worse footballer, better striker.

But the biggest difference is luck. We rode it, a lot. We nicked a hell of a lot of games through sheer will at times, despite having large periods where the opposition were better than us. That bread confidence and runs continued, but we were rarely fluent enough to win games on ability, it was more often than not through will and attrition.

History is being re-written on a daily basis on here lately. We won games because we were difficult to create chances against but had players who could make and take them, that's why we had such an impressive away record. It was at home when teams parked the bus that we tended to find things more difficult.

I'd agree with that, and would add that that's why, at the time, there was probably a difference in levels of happiness between those who watched us away from home (where it worked) and at home (where it didn't). Also, the league tables at the end of the seasons told the story of the imbalance, too.

It was the fact that MON didn't have an answer to that that bothered a lot of us. Seeing what is happening at Sunderland at the moment, it doesn't look like that much has changed on that front.

I'd also add that it doesn't really make sense to say that the biggest difference was luck. Luck is not going to be consistently going your way to the degree that it would have to to be a swinging factor over a period of years.

Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Davey B on November 26, 2012, 04:45:08 PM
I just hope that the lift that comes with a new gaffer doesn't spark tomorrow night for Harry!

Hopefully it won't come on Saturday either...

 :D I take it you've got them this weekend then? We are at Norwich. We need to get 6 points from these next two games!  :-\  If we lose them then i must admit, i'll be a tad unhappy, and then i'll be worried!
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: eastie on November 26, 2012, 04:47:16 PM
I just hope that the lift that comes with a new gaffer doesn't spark tomorrow night for Harry!

Hopefully it won't come on Saturday either...

 :D I take it you've got them this weekend then? We are at Norwich. We need to get 6 points from these next two games!  :-\  If we lose them then i must admit, i'll be a tad unhappy, and then i'll be worried!

Reading home, qpr away and stoke home - possible 9 points which could put us into mid table davey - although this is villa so we cannot bank on anything, we are very unpredictable, but I'm hopeful we will get the wins we need.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Davey B on November 26, 2012, 05:14:44 PM
I just hope that the lift that comes with a new gaffer doesn't spark tomorrow night for Harry!

Hopefully it won't come on Saturday either...

 :D I take it you've got them this weekend then? We are at Norwich. We need to get 6 points from these next two games!  :-\  If we lose them then i must admit, i'll be a tad unhappy, and then i'll be worried!

Reading home, qpr away and stoke home - possible 9 points which could put us into mid table davey - although this is villa so we cannot bank on anything, we are very unpredictable, but I'm hopeful we will get the wins we need.

Well, good luck! I think the three to go down are Southampton, Norwich, and QPR, though i'd love to see the deluded Wonga boys get sucked into it so they have a stressful run in, just for a laugh!  ;D
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: richard moore on November 26, 2012, 05:14:55 PM
Good luck with the continued search for a job Davey, you do your club proud on here in difficult circumstances!
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Davey B on November 26, 2012, 05:18:22 PM
Good luck with the continued search for a job Davey, you do your club proud on here in difficult circumstances!

Thanks Richard!  ;) 
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Mister E on November 26, 2012, 05:22:23 PM
The difference between Sunderland now and us 3 years back is simply Milner. Sessagnon does similar to what Young did, Johnson is Downing, in every way he was under MON, Fletcher see Gabby, worse footballer, better striker.

But the biggest difference is luck. We rode it, a lot. We nicked a hell of a lot of games through sheer will at times, despite having large periods where the opposition were better than us. That bread confidence and runs continued, but we were rarely fluent enough to win games on ability, it was more often than not through will and attrition.

History is being re-written on a daily basis on here lately. We won games because we were difficult to create chances against but had players who could make and take them, that's why we had such an impressive away record. It was at home when teams parked the bus that we tended to find things more difficult.

I'd agree with that, and would add that that's why, at the time, there was probably a difference in levels of happiness between those who watched us away from home (where it worked) and at home (where it didn't). Also, the league tables at the end of the seasons told the story of the imbalance, too.

It was the fact that MON didn't have an answer to that that bothered a lot of us. Seeing what is happening at Sunderland at the moment, it doesn't look like that much has changed on that front.

I'd also add that it doesn't really make sense to say that the biggest difference was luck. Luck is not going to be consistently going your way to the degree that it would have to to be a swinging factor over a period of years.


I'd agree with Chris' post too and add that the consistency of team selection worked in our favour as well, to certain extent - well, it was both an advantage but ultimately a disadvantage, in that the team was knackered by March and opposition sides didn't need to do much homework to counter us (particularly at VP).
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: ozzjim on November 26, 2012, 08:48:22 PM
It is only my opinion, not a re-writing of history Chris.

Anyhow, the point is most of the wins, away included, were very tight games where we were often defensive and scored on the counter, never dominant. At home we were turgid for a long, long time, and indeed a major issue we had was not having any quality movement up front to create space. We had 3-4 very good players, but the rest of the side has since proved to be very mediocre, or worse.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: SoccerHQ on November 26, 2012, 09:06:27 PM
He's even been playing Seb Larsson in central midfield this season in the hope he turns into another Milner.

I don't expect Man. City to come in with a 20m bid anytime soon.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Clampy on November 26, 2012, 09:18:11 PM
I've watched Sunderland's last couple of games and i don't think they'll be in trouble for very long, they'll start picking up points sooner or later. Sessengon is starting to pick up some form, although i do think they could do with an upgrade on Colback and Cattermole. I think they'll finish top ten comfortably.

Oh and good luck with the job hunting Davey.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: eastie on November 26, 2012, 09:21:55 PM
I've watched Sunderland's last couple of games and i don't think they'll be in trouble for very long, they'll start picking up points sooner or later. Sessengon is starting to pick up some form, although i do think they could do with an upgrade on Colback and Cattermole. I think they'll finish top ten comfortably.

Oh and good luck with the job hunting Davey.

Top ten comfortably? They have won 2 in 20 games - I think they will be lucky to avoid the bottom 6 at best.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Davey B on November 26, 2012, 09:31:00 PM
I've watched Sunderland's last couple of games and i don't think they'll be in trouble for very long, they'll start picking up points sooner or later. Sessengon is starting to pick up some form, although i do think they could do with an upgrade on Colback and Cattermole. I think they'll finish top ten comfortably.

Oh and good luck with the job hunting Davey.

Thanks Clampy!  :)
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Clampy on November 26, 2012, 09:35:44 PM
I've watched Sunderland's last couple of games and i don't think they'll be in trouble for very long, they'll start picking up points sooner or later. Sessengon is starting to pick up some form, although i do think they could do with an upgrade on Colback and Cattermole. I think they'll finish top ten comfortably.

Oh and good luck with the job hunting Davey.

Thanks Clampy!  :)

No probs mate.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: SoccerHQ on November 26, 2012, 09:49:23 PM
Sorry Davey B but in contrast to Clampy (apart from the good luck on the job hunt!) you're easily the worst premier league team we've played this season so far and didn't look much better on saturday.

Long hard season for the mackems, MON won't last it.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Clampy on November 26, 2012, 09:58:45 PM
Sorry Davey B but in contrast to Clampy (apart from the good luck on the job hunt!) you're easily the worst premier league team we've played this season so far and didn't look much better on saturday.

Long hard season for the mackems, MON won't last it.

No, they was'nt great against us in truth, a few half chances here and there but i can't remember them testing Guzan much. I've just seen a bit of a difference in their last couple of games which makes me think they'll have a comfortable finish, nothing more than that.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 26, 2012, 09:59:12 PM
Sorry Davey B but in contrast to Clampy (apart from the good luck on the job hunt!) you're easily the worst premier league team we've played this season so far and didn't look much better on saturday.

Long hard season for the mackems, MON won't last it.

No, they was'nt great against us in truth, a few half chances here and there but i can't remember them testing Guzan much. I've just seen a bit of a difference in their last couple of games which makes me think they'll have a comfortable finish, nothing more than that.

Same as us then.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Clampy on November 26, 2012, 10:11:23 PM
Sorry Davey B but in contrast to Clampy (apart from the good luck on the job hunt!) you're easily the worst premier league team we've played this season so far and didn't look much better on saturday.

Long hard season for the mackems, MON won't last it.

No, they was'nt great against us in truth, a few half chances here and there but i can't remember them testing Guzan much. I've just seen a bit of a difference in their last couple of games which makes me think they'll have a comfortable finish, nothing more than that.

Same as us then.

Yes, i think we'll be ok as well.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: eastie on November 27, 2012, 01:26:42 PM
Edit.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on November 27, 2012, 04:14:28 PM
Believe this crap if you want to, but it's bollox.  ;D 

I wonder if Pubehead considered resigning on hearing that Neil Lennon had offered to stand down at Celtic at the weekend? You'll be rid of him sooner rather than later, Davey. Your lot certainly deserve better.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: DrGonzo on May 21, 2013, 05:00:09 PM
Looks like Tony Pubeless is a goner.  Meeting with the management this a.m.  Owen has tweeted that its all over...  It'll take some work to change the face of that club.  Perfect job for MoN.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: ozzjim on May 21, 2013, 05:32:00 PM
I would love MON to take over at Stoke. I wonder if he did, if he would look himself in the mirror one morning and think, did I really need to take a big shit on Villa when I did.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Chipsticks on May 21, 2013, 05:34:56 PM
Posted this in the Pulis thread as well but I find it really interesting.

Alan Pardew is now the second longest serving manager in the Premier League, having been in charge at Newcastle since 9 December 2010. Brendan Rodgers is the 6th with just under 12 months in the job.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: LionVilla on May 21, 2013, 05:37:07 PM
MON+Stoke= heaven!
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: ozzjim on May 21, 2013, 05:39:36 PM
Posted this in the Pulis thread as well but I find it really interesting.

Alan Pardew is now the second longest serving manager in the Premier League, having been in charge at Newcastle since 9 December 2010. Brendan Rodgers is the 6th with just under 12 months in the job.

Lol.... just read this on the Beeb.

Considering Pardew could well go too it is all a bit mad!
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: usav on May 21, 2013, 05:39:49 PM
Alan Pardew is now the second longest serving manager in the Premier League, having been in charge at Newcastle since 9 December 2010. Brendan Rodgers is the 6th with just under 12 months in the job.

Ridiculous.  You see Fergie was very passionate about giving Moyes a chance, which of course he had to be given the start he had 20 odd years ago.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: CJ on May 21, 2013, 06:37:37 PM
Ed: Wrong thread
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: eamonn on May 21, 2013, 06:59:05 PM
Poor old Tiny Penis...he may have been dull but he stabilised Stoke. I think they'll become a yoyo club now.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: john e on May 21, 2013, 07:08:39 PM
why is Brendan Rodgers 3rd favourite on oddschecker for the Man City job ?
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on May 21, 2013, 07:19:02 PM
why is Brendan Rodgers 3rd favourite on oddschecker for the Man City job ?

Liverpool fans world wide (particularly asia) are big punters with an inflated view of how important their club is. Its why you can usually get better than normal odds betting against them. Bit like England national team odds really, it is always skewed.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: N'ZMAV on May 21, 2013, 07:27:41 PM
I'd be happy if I was a Stoke fan now Pulis has gone. Ok, they've been safe under him in the League, but I think he was starting to get found out, and there is no guarantee they'll stay up next season even if he stays. Surely they'll be better to watch. I think it's worth the gamble.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Matt C on May 21, 2013, 07:30:40 PM
Is Gary Megson still out of work? Just saying.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: N'ZMAV on May 21, 2013, 07:33:51 PM
Is Gary Megson still out of work? Just saying.
He won't be for long. Wolves. Nailed on.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: supertom on May 21, 2013, 07:38:17 PM
I'd be happy if I was a Stoke fan now Pulis has gone. Ok, they've been safe under him in the League, but I think he was starting to get found out, and there is no guarantee they'll stay up next season even if he stays. Surely they'll be better to watch. I think it's worth the gamble.
It's a tough job for whoever comes in. Actually, the players there suggest that it's a squad primed for Martin O Neill. He'd improve the football (marginally). It might be amusing to see him fail there. If they're crazy enough to sign him up.

Depending on who realistically joins them, they do have enough players with footballing ability to change the ethos of the team. I'd think they'd be looking to offload a lot of their past it, high earners too and get some younger players in. Stoke were godawful though this year especially. Not even their A game was quite as effective as previously. They should have gone down. To be honest when we played them, even despite how poor Sunderland were, I still think Stoke were the worst team we've played when we tonked them at their ground. They were awful (we made too hard a job of it too-god bless Matty L).
I think also like Wigan, they've punched above their weight for too long now. It's catching up with them. It is a little harsh for Pulis if he was sacked. I mean he has been found out, but surely survival is the main thing for a club that size and he achieved that. They got the results when it mattered.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Legion on May 21, 2013, 07:40:13 PM
Any particular reason why this has been stickied?
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Big Dick Edwards on May 21, 2013, 10:27:57 PM
Stoke fans should be careful with their expectations and consider talking to the Wolves fans who not so long ago wanted rid of Mick McCarthy and considered Steve Bruce not good enough to replace him.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: charlie on May 22, 2013, 08:29:46 AM
Press saying Wobberto sounded out for Stoke, after all its a BIG European Club, on of the big boys, so Wobberto could go. Mind you, the training sessions would be worth a comedy video, pass ball on the ground, pass to each other, oh dear.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: CJ on May 22, 2013, 08:31:59 AM
Incredible the number of managers who've moved on or been sacked now. Assuming Martinez takes one of the jobs available that will be 10 of this year's PL clubs - 50% - who will have had a change of manager this season. Ridiculous
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: john e on May 22, 2013, 08:34:27 AM
Incredible the number of managers who've moved on or been sacked now. Assuming Martinez takes one of the jobs available that will be 10 of this year's PL clubs - 50% - who will have had a change of manager this season. Ridiculous


AVFC a model of continuity
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Ron Manager on May 22, 2013, 08:42:37 AM
Is Gary Megson still out of work? Just saying.
He won't be for long. Wolves. Nailed on.

Most of the Wolves fans want Owen Coyle but the word is its Kenny Jackett in the next two days.

Could be a good choice. Sir Graham rates him.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: john e on May 22, 2013, 08:51:33 AM
what did Poyet get suspended for ?
he must be turning up somewhere if he's rocked the boat at Brighton  I suppose

Redknap was tipped for Brighton as he lives down that way, don't know whether they'd have a 'Harry' size cheque book though


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: villa kicks on May 22, 2013, 08:55:17 AM
Why is this thread not in other football yet? Just wondering. I put a villa spin on things-  Lambert kept us up - no out cry for him to go. Or in fact that he has. However is it a case that him being a contender in odds for Everton or Stoke that he may leave. I dont think chelsea and city want him. The worry is that Lambert moves to a club if villa dont progress or we sell benteke. I think both are a couple of seasons away. I wonder  what number of years on the deal Lambert contract is??  I also to add to the 'idea' of this thread think Hughes and Stoke perfect match. But think martinez would do well with stoke as he has a defence in place!
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: danlanza on May 22, 2013, 09:14:50 AM
Benitez linked with Stoke. Surely that is a misprint in the paper ?
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: mrastonvilla on May 22, 2013, 09:22:59 AM
Why is this thread not in other football yet? Just wondering. I put a villa spin on things-  Lambert kept us up - no out cry for him to go. Or in fact that he has. However is it a case that him being a contender in odds for Everton or Stoke that he may leave. I dont think chelsea and city want him. The worry is that Lambert moves to a club if villa dont progress or we sell benteke. I think both are a couple of seasons away. I wonder  what number of years on the deal Lambert contract is??  I also to add to the 'idea' of this thread think Hughes and Stoke perfect match. But think martinez would do well with stoke as he has a defence in place!

Lambert has a 3 year deal with us.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: supertom on May 22, 2013, 10:00:42 AM
Martinez linked with Stoke now too. Story from the Daily Star. That's obviously a match made in heaven right there. I can just see Martinez managing a team of 8 foot behemoths. As for Rafa going there, not on your nelly.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: CJ on May 22, 2013, 10:33:00 AM
Mate of mine in the meedya reckons Di Matteo will take over at Stoke - been seen there a few times recently apparently. Shame. I like Di Matteo
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: john e on May 22, 2013, 10:35:42 AM
Hughes is 2/1 favourite for the Stoke job with skybet, with Rafa 8/1 3rd favourite

the Rafa conection must come because the club have very rich owners, and Rafa likes a bit of money to spend, lives in the area, wants to stay in the prem, is out of work, has no chance of the City or Everton job

but still seems highly unlikely
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: dicedlam on May 22, 2013, 10:38:29 AM
Martinez linked with Stoke now too. Story from the Daily Star. That's obviously a match made in heaven right there. I can just see Martinez managing a team of 8 foot behemoths.

Whelan always said he would move to a big club someday.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: VILLA MOLE on May 22, 2013, 10:40:12 AM
Martinez linked with Stoke now too. Story from the Daily Star. That's obviously a match made in heaven right there. I can just see Martinez managing a team of 8 foot behemoths. As for Rafa going there, not on your nelly.

it would be funny just to see Whelans reaction to ROBERTO joining one of the big clubs in Europe the silly old sod  ;)
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: pauliewalnuts on May 22, 2013, 11:27:52 AM
Everton is the perfect opportunity for Martinez.

Big club, local to him, he's used to not having huge money, pretty supportive chairman, already has the basis of a more than decent side (who already know how to defend) ...
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: PaulWinch again on May 22, 2013, 11:30:35 AM
Everton is the perfect opportunity for Martinez.

Big club, local to him, he's used to not having huge money, pretty supportive chairman, already has the basis of a more than decent side (who already know how to defend) ...

I agree, but I have a feeling Phil Neville might take over.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: pauliewalnuts on May 22, 2013, 11:31:31 AM
I think they'd be nuts to appoint Neville.

I understand the benefits of continuity, but that's way too big a job for someone's first step into management.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: PaulWinch again on May 22, 2013, 11:58:06 AM
I think they'd be nuts to appoint Neville.

I understand the benefits of continuity, but that's way too big a job for someone's first step into management.

I also agree, but I can just see it.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: cheltenhamlion on May 22, 2013, 12:06:57 PM
Martinez looks a good fit for Everton to me.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: damon loves JT on May 22, 2013, 12:11:42 PM
Martinez is a really impressive person. If you interviewed him for a job, you would want to give it to him. That's all I'd say.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: PaulWinch again on May 22, 2013, 12:15:39 PM
I like Martinez he seems very thoughtful and respectful and he has interesting insights. He also gets his teams to play good football.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: OCD on May 22, 2013, 12:40:05 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if O'Neill became Stoke manager.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: rob_bridge on May 22, 2013, 12:54:41 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if O'Neill became Stoke manager.

Good call - lots of average British players many of whom are overpaid inflating a wage bill.
Little or no overseas scouting and a team set up to be quite direct in their approach.

Perfect fit.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: MoetVillan on May 22, 2013, 12:58:48 PM
The fans would love going to see MartinONeillsStoke (c) as well.  I think Martinez to Everton would be the right call, but as the other comments have been made, you can just see Neville getting it.  Especially the comments that have been coming out.  Lambert now up to 7th longest serving manager!  I think it would be worth putting a quid on DiCanio  not making first game next season
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Jarpie on May 22, 2013, 12:59:16 PM
After reading this article: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2013/may/21/tony-pulis-sacking-stoke?INTCMP=ILCNETTXT3487 (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2013/may/21/tony-pulis-sacking-stoke?INTCMP=ILCNETTXT3487) and if Stoke has done their homework they won't hire MON.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: placeforparks on May 22, 2013, 12:59:34 PM
I think they'd be nuts to appoint Neville.

I understand the benefits of continuity, but that's way too big a job for someone's first step into management.

I also agree, but I can just see it.

no compensation to wigan, for one.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Bren'd on May 22, 2013, 01:00:30 PM
Neither Stoke or Everton are big enough clubs for Martinez.  I know this because somebody said so. 
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Irish villain on May 22, 2013, 01:07:50 PM
I think we can capitalise on all this uncertainty next season.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Duncan Shaw on May 22, 2013, 01:16:35 PM
Neville and Duncan Ferguson dream ticket for Everton.....
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: ozzjim on May 22, 2013, 01:20:29 PM
Neither Stoke or Everton are big enough clubs for Martinez.  I know this because somebody said so. 

Isn't Martinez taking over from Mourinho?
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: MoetVillan on May 22, 2013, 01:53:24 PM
Surely Real are too small for Martinez?
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Concrete John on May 22, 2013, 02:03:20 PM
Ideal scenario:-

Everton appoint someone like Neville, meaning that job is unavailable.  Martinez's only escape route then becomes Stoke, causing people to point and laugh at Whelan.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: pauliewalnuts on May 22, 2013, 02:04:50 PM
After reading this article: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2013/may/21/tony-pulis-sacking-stoke?INTCMP=ILCNETTXT3487 (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2013/may/21/tony-pulis-sacking-stoke?INTCMP=ILCNETTXT3487) and if Stoke has done their homework they won't hire MON.

Ha ha, that's briliant, it really does read like a list of everything MON would do.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: midnite on May 22, 2013, 02:45:22 PM
Martinez isn't good enough for Everton. They'll be on a tight budget and he never set the world alight with Wigan.

Having stoke fans expecting Benitez to rock up at the Britannia is as funny as villa fans expecting ancelotti turning up to VP a few years back. One stoke fan said it wouldn't happen because they don't spend money. £80 million spent on players in the last few years argues against that. The reason he won't be turning up at stoke is he'll have many better offers than that.

I can see it being Hughes or O'Neill. Both would fit in with stoke.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: pauliewalnuts on May 22, 2013, 02:59:37 PM

I can see it being Hughes or O'Neill. Both would fit in with stoke.

If there is any truth in the guardian article posted above, then MON is the last person they'll appoint.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: VillaAlways on May 22, 2013, 03:02:00 PM
I think it will be Poyet
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: midnite on May 22, 2013, 03:45:24 PM

I can see it being Hughes or O'Neill. Both would fit in with stoke.

If there is any truth in the guardian article posted above, then MON is the last person they'll appoint.

Missed that bit, sorry.

I'd like to see poyet in the premiership and see what he can do.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Virgil Caine on May 22, 2013, 03:53:38 PM
An outside bet but if Pelligrini goes to Man City Martinez may well go to Malaga especially as their European ban has been lifted. Poyet to Stoke, Hughes to Brighton. My Millwall fan mate says that TSM is on the list and been interviewed for that job.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: john e on May 22, 2013, 04:16:38 PM
i'd like to see Michael Laudrup go to Everton,

 mainly and for no other reason than I have a bit of money on that happening,
fella called Vitor Pereira is the current 2\1 favourite though
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: SamTheMouse on May 22, 2013, 04:40:36 PM
It won't be Benitez anyway. My money's on him going to PSG.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: supertom on May 22, 2013, 04:50:13 PM
Laudrup would do a fantastic job at Everton. Then I'd put my left one on Martinez returning to Swansea. He'd also do fairly well for them.

I'm actually shocked Benetiz is one of the favourites for the Stoke job. He'd never manage them in a million years. Hughes seems to be top pick and I'd go along with that. A good fit.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Concrete John on May 22, 2013, 04:52:38 PM
Laudrup would have an entirely different approach to Moyes, so if he got the job expect teething trouble there before you see the sort of team he produced at Swansea.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: ozzjim on May 22, 2013, 04:57:16 PM
I still reckon a couple more might get kicked before the season starts. I was surprised Fulham have signed 2 decent looking players today as Jol must have been close to the boot with their last 10 games or so.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Damo70 on May 22, 2013, 06:25:56 PM
The only slight chance Stoke would have in getting Benitez is his obvious desire to stay in England. Although, I would imagine a Stoke versus Paris choice would put that desire to the test. Stoke have made it clear they are looking to move on and change their style. It will be interesting to see if Everton do the same or not. Gamble with a change of direction like Martinez or play it safe with a Hughes type appointment. Laudrup will not be going to Stoke or Everton. The difference between him and Martinez, which Dave Whelan seems oblivious to, is Laudrup's pedigree and reputation as a player alongside his managerial CV. There are European clubs who would appoint Laudrup who have probably barely heard of Martinez.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Ad@m on May 23, 2013, 12:46:03 AM
The only linkage with Benitez to Stoke is the fact that his family live in the Wirral apparently and he could commute.  There's also talk of him managing Napoli and if he took that on his family would still stay in the Wirral - what is so good about the Wirral I have no idea!!

I saw a stat today which said that 19 out of 20 Premier League teams have changed managers since the last time Arsenal won a trophy.  The one club which hasn't changed managers in that time?  Arsenal!
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: john e on May 23, 2013, 08:05:10 PM
You got to laugh,
at the bottom of the list of 'next manager for Stoke' on oddschecker is Warren Gatland, Martin Johnson and Clive Woodward, 500/1 but still funny
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: damon loves JT on May 23, 2013, 08:36:41 PM
Maybe if he went to Napoli the Italians could make a Wirral for his family to live on. Perhaps they could prepare a selection of Wirrals and they could choose which one they referred.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Bad English on May 23, 2013, 11:12:23 PM
Wirral in this together. Like three priests on a mountain of sugar.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: villa kicks on May 24, 2013, 09:17:54 AM
Mods this thread needs to be moved to OTHER FOOTBALL as talking about OTHER FOOTBAL clubs. Not sure why my excellent thread on AVFC champions league and europa league argument has been moved but lets be consistent boys not like a ref! By all means keep my thread in other football if you dont see Villa striving for a Europa league place and win and then accessing coverted Champions league. But to have this thread which doesn't directly have anything to do with Villa manager or AVFC makes me feel iver been treated unfairly as a relatively new poster and that's really unfair. Think  threads should be given ample opportunity  in villa section when they refer to AVFC.  Someone explain why OTHER FOOTBALL managers still hanging around   #disappointed
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: glint_villa on May 24, 2013, 09:52:40 AM
Less of a merry-go-round more spinning tea cups.

Hold on tight folks!
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Legion on May 24, 2013, 10:01:39 AM
Mods this thread needs to be moved to OTHER FOOTBALL as talking about OTHER FOOTBAL clubs. Not sure why my excellent thread on AVFC champions league and europa league argument has been moved but lets be consistent boys not like a ref! By all means keep my thread in other football if you dont see Villa striving for a Europa league place and win and then accessing coverted Champions league. But to have this thread which doesn't directly have anything to do with Villa manager or AVFC makes me feel iver been treated unfairly as a relatively new poster and that's really unfair. Think  threads should be given ample opportunity  in villa section when they refer to AVFC.  Someone explain why OTHER FOOTBALL managers still hanging around   #disappointed

As per the site rules, you should be addressing this issue via PM with a member of the Mod team.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: pauliewalnuts on May 24, 2013, 10:04:10 AM
Mods this thread needs to be moved to OTHER FOOTBALL as talking about OTHER FOOTBAL clubs. Not sure why my excellent thread on AVFC champions league and europa league argument has been moved but lets be consistent boys not like a ref! By all means keep my thread in other football if you dont see Villa striving for a Europa league place and win and then accessing coverted Champions league. But to have this thread which doesn't directly have anything to do with Villa manager or AVFC makes me feel iver been treated unfairly as a relatively new poster and that's really unfair. Think  threads should be given ample opportunity  in villa section when they refer to AVFC.  Someone explain why OTHER FOOTBALL managers still hanging around   #disappointed

Having a thread moved into a different sub forum isn't a punishment or a slight, villa-kicks! It's just an attempt to keep everything neat and tidy.

re unfair treatment, we treat everyone the same, to be honest. In fact, if you are a relatively new poster, you probably get cut more slack than the predictable old faces.

Incidentally, your thread didn't get moved as such, there was a thread on the subject already in Other Football, which it got merged into. Like I said, to keep the discussion focused in the same place.
 
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on May 24, 2013, 11:57:48 AM
Rumour of Mark Hughes to Stoke. Hope this doesn't happen, as I think he'd do well for them.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: john e on May 24, 2013, 12:02:35 PM
Mods this thread needs to be moved to OTHER FOOTBALL as talking about OTHER FOOTBAL clubs. Not sure why my excellent thread on AVFC champions league and europa league argument has been moved but lets be consistent boys not like a ref! By all means keep my thread in other football if you dont see Villa striving for a Europa league place and win and then accessing coverted Champions league. But to have this thread which doesn't directly have anything to do with Villa manager or AVFC makes me feel iver been treated unfairly as a relatively new poster and that's really unfair. Think  threads should be given ample opportunity  in villa section when they refer to AVFC.  Someone explain why OTHER FOOTBALL managers still hanging around   #disappointed


Anyone with less than 7148 posts is a no one around here,
it's the rules
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on May 24, 2013, 12:05:21 PM
Wirral in this together. Like three priests on a mountain of sugar.

Napoli, Napoli
Wirral pissed up and we're going to Napoli
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 24, 2013, 12:09:51 PM

Anyone with less than 7148 posts is a no one around here,
it's the rules

So tempting to put your count down to 1 post!  ;D
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on May 24, 2013, 12:10:14 PM
Rumour of Mark Hughes to Stoke. Hope this doesn't happen, as I think he'd do well for them.

Wasn't this the Mark Hughes who walked out on Fulham ( trying to clear his own way for the Villa job) because they didn't meet his ambitions?

I think he's a terrible manager but the team of thugs and neck-high tacklers he assembled at Blackburn makes me think that he'd fit seamlessly into the football culture at Stoke. A grey man for a grey club
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: peter w on May 24, 2013, 12:17:01 PM
Shit at man City, shit at fulham, shit at QPR. Why exactly is he close to getting work anywhere other than Sainsbury's?
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: dave.woodhall on May 24, 2013, 12:18:22 PM
Shit at man City, shit at fulham, shit at QPR. Why exactly is he close to getting work anywhere other than Sainsbury's?

Once you're on the circuit it's harder to get off than get another job.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: peter w on May 24, 2013, 12:20:39 PM
Undoubtedly true in the lower leagues but constantly fail, and seemingly getting worse, in the top flight usually seals your fate. Clearly not.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: HertsVilla on May 24, 2013, 12:46:39 PM
I'm surprised that TSM has not been linked with Stoke....
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: pauliewalnuts on May 24, 2013, 04:32:09 PM
Undoubtedly true in the lower leagues but constantly fail, and seemingly getting worse, in the top flight usually seals your fate. Clearly not.

I read somewhere a while ago, some commentator saying that in England there is a relatively small group of really unimpressive managers who just seem to get job after job for no real reason other than they're insiders, as it were.

Hughes strikes me as a good example of that.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Damo70 on May 24, 2013, 05:30:07 PM
I think Hughes did a decent job everywhere except QPR. I stress 'decent'. I don't think he is a great manager, but I don't think he is that bad either.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: damon loves JT on May 25, 2013, 01:12:25 AM
I really hope that if he goes to Stoke, he emulates the success he achieved at QPR.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: john e on May 25, 2013, 08:09:50 AM
Ole Gunnar has come right in to second favourite for the Everton job
5/1 with Martinez at 4's
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Ad@m on May 25, 2013, 09:34:08 AM
Ole Gunnar has come right in to second favourite for the Everton job
5/1 with Martinez at 4's

Didn't someone post on here recently that OGS's team in Norway are bottom of the league?
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Concrete John on May 25, 2013, 09:38:40 AM
Ole Gunnar has come right in to second favourite for the Everton job
5/1 with Martinez at 4's

Someone probably spotted Kenwright's private jet in Norway.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: john e on May 25, 2013, 10:41:12 AM
Ole Gunnar has come right in to second favourite for the Everton job
5/1 with Martinez at 4's

Someone probably spotted Kenwright's private jet in Norway.



On the Everton forums they are changing there user names to scandy style
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Ad@m on May 25, 2013, 11:10:05 AM
Ole Gunnar has come right in to second favourite for the Everton job
5/1 with Martinez at 4's

Someone probably spotted Kenwright's private jet in Norway.



On the Everton forums they are changing there user names to scandy style

How childish!
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: TheSandman on May 25, 2013, 12:49:27 PM
Ole Gunnar has come right in to second favourite for the Everton job
5/1 with Martinez at 4's

Didn't someone post on here recently that OGS's team in Norway are bottom of the league?

Yes: http://uk.soccerway.com/national/norway/eliteserien/2013/regular-season/r19871/
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Ad@m on May 25, 2013, 01:46:20 PM
Ole Gunnar has come right in to second favourite for the Everton job
5/1 with Martinez at 4's

Didn't someone post on here recently that OGS's team in Norway are bottom of the league?

Yes: http://uk.soccerway.com/national/norway/eliteserien/2013/regular-season/r19871/

Hmm, 1 win from 11 matches. Looks like we dodged a bullet there.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on May 27, 2013, 12:07:19 AM
Just read manchini taking Everton job??
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: The Left Side on May 27, 2013, 04:12:24 AM
Just read manchini taking Everton job??

Didn't see that one coming.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: TheMalandro on May 27, 2013, 08:07:41 AM
Just read manchini taking Everton job??

Didn't see that one coming.
Just read manchini taking Everton job??

Didn't see that one coming.

I'd fancy Lambert over Mancini on the budget they will have.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: TheMalandro on May 27, 2013, 08:30:29 AM
250-1 on skybet, I just stuck a fiver on it. I'm guessing its bollocks however!
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: danlanza on May 27, 2013, 11:21:57 AM
Mancini- Everton ? Nah. If that happens i will.............
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Karlos96 on May 27, 2013, 08:32:01 PM
The Fat Spanish Waiter is the new Napoli manager, just been announced on the beeb.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Legion on May 27, 2013, 08:34:42 PM
Pleased for him. He has endured no end of shit this season from classless Chel$ki fans.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: danlanza on May 27, 2013, 08:36:41 PM
Be great to see Napoli beat Chelski in the Champions league next season.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Legion on May 28, 2013, 01:31:11 PM
Martinez leaves Wigan.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: VillaAlways on May 28, 2013, 01:43:44 PM
Martinez leaves Wigan.
Everton bound
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Clampy on May 28, 2013, 01:55:54 PM
Martinez leaves Wigan.
Everton bound

Real Madrid bound obviously.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Toronto Villa on May 28, 2013, 02:22:51 PM
Martinez leaves Wigan.
Everton bound

Real Madrid bound obviously.

Real Madrid? You're fucking nuts Clampy if he'd stoop that low. Jose Pep Martinez is headed for the Inter Galactic All Stars with Paul McGrath at the back in front of Dino Zoff, Zidane in front with Van Basten leading the line.

Whelan would never have stood for him going to some poxy second placed team in Spain.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: PaulWinch again on May 28, 2013, 02:25:32 PM
I like Martinez and I'm glad that he won't be associated with Whelan anymore.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: paulcomben on May 28, 2013, 03:19:32 PM
Phew.  Is somebody keeping a checklist, as this is all getting hard to remember?

Clubs with a vacancy: Stoke, Wolves, Everton, Man City, Malaga, Chelsea, Real Madrid, Brighton TBC, Millwall....

Candidates: Hughes, Pulis, Coyle, Martinez, Pellegrini, Mourinho, Poyet TBC, O'Neill, Jackett, McLaren.....
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Legion on May 28, 2013, 03:23:05 PM
You forgot TSM.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Lastfootstamper on May 28, 2013, 03:25:27 PM
Phew.  Is somebody keeping a checklist, as this is all getting hard to remember?

Clubs with a vacancy: Stoke, Wolves, Everton, Man City, Malaga, Chelsea, Real Madrid, Brighton TBC, Millwall....

Candidates: Hughes, Pulis, Coyle, Martinez, Pellegrini, Mourinho, Poyet TBC, O'Neill, Jackett, McLaren.....

Can't believe you've forgotten Curbishley!
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: paulcomben on May 28, 2013, 03:28:20 PM
You forgot TSM.

Ha ha. Yes, blocked him out after May 14 2012.
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: The Left Side on May 28, 2013, 07:07:21 PM
I like Martinez and I'm glad that he won't be associated with Whelan anymore.

Me too, we won't see Wigan for a while.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: pauliewalnuts on May 28, 2013, 07:14:39 PM
We've moved this thread into HD for the summer to keep stuff in the one place while there's not so much to squabble talk about.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Toronto Villa on May 28, 2013, 08:13:32 PM
You forgot TSM.

and Megson, Jewell, Curbishley, Phil Brown, Dave Jones, Carlton Palmer...
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Chris Jameson on May 28, 2013, 08:13:53 PM
I like Martinez but it would be great if it turns out he isn't actually a good manager and battling against relegation really is his level.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Legion on May 28, 2013, 08:14:03 PM
Platt...
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: rob_bridge on May 28, 2013, 08:14:31 PM
You forgot TSM.

Ha ha. Yes, blocked him out after May 14 2012.

2nd favourite for Millwall job after Steve Lomas
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: pauliewalnuts on May 28, 2013, 08:14:50 PM
I like Martinez but it would be great if it turns out he isn't actually a good manager and battling against relegation really is his level.

I like him too, but if I were an Everton fan, I'd be more than a little bit concerned at his failure ever to organise a defence.

Thank God we don't have to worry about such things with our manager.

Oh ......
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Toronto Villa on May 28, 2013, 08:18:35 PM
Platt...

and Shteve McLaren and Sven and Bryan Robson...
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: villa kicks on May 28, 2013, 08:20:49 PM
Personally Martinez doesn't have it to cut it top level similarly Zola. This is within the English game with the English club, player fan culture. I think martinez would do well in Spain Germany Argentina. Zola more suited to Italy and Russian. Both suited to brasil. To be successful and steady in England top flight there are certain requirements. Being nice isn't one of them   
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: MoetVillan on May 28, 2013, 08:22:11 PM
so we have now got the sixth longest reigning prem manager?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: dave shelley on May 28, 2013, 08:24:44 PM

and Megson, Jewell, Curbishley, Phil Brown, Dave Jones, Carlton Palmer...

Didn't Brown land the Southend job recently?




Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: Somniloquism on May 28, 2013, 08:37:10 PM
You forgot TSM.

I just found put today that he was the co-commentator for the 5-5 match last day of the season on 5 live. He must have been bewildered.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Toronto Villa on May 28, 2013, 08:39:36 PM

and Megson, Jewell, Curbishley, Phil Brown, Dave Jones, Carlton Palmer...

Didn't Brown land the Southend job recently?


yep, but knowing his ego he'll want to be singing in front of a bigger audience
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Ad@m on May 28, 2013, 08:41:34 PM
so we have now got the sixth longest reigning prem manager?

Given he's been in post less than a year that's a frankly ridiculous state of affairs!
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: villa kicks on May 28, 2013, 08:48:48 PM
You forgot TSM.

and Megson, Jewell, Curbishley, Phil Brown, Dave Jones, Carlton Palmer...
and all the usual suspects- Appleton ! Neill Warncock, Avram, Sven, Hoddle, Roy Keane Steve Kean, Martin Allen, Kevin Keegan Ian dowie, Ince, shearer, wise, Steve Cotteril, and Champs league winner RDM. Then we throw in the new names of David James and Phil Neviller these are the lot who'll get touted every time. Oh and of course redknappy
Title: Re: Managerial Merry-Go-Round
Post by: villa kicks on May 28, 2013, 08:55:54 PM
Phew.  Is somebody keeping a checklist, as this is all getting hard to remember?

Clubs with a vacancy: Stoke, Wolves, Everton, Man City, Malaga, Chelsea, Real Madrid, Brighton TBC, Millwall....

Candidates: Hughes, Pulis, Coyle, Martinez, Pellegrini, Mourinho, Poyet TBC, O'Neill, Jackett, McLaren.....

Sven would love a go on malaga if they sorted out finance.

Get Laurie Sancez in at stoke. Kevin Keegan at Wigan, Martin Allen at wolves. Wise at Milwall..
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: mal on May 28, 2013, 09:31:36 PM
Martinez leaves Wigan.
Everton bound
The last club to appoint a manager who had won a cup but (widely ajudged to have been unluckily) relegated the same season, only just avoided the same fate (without the silverware) the next season.
Surely Everton couldn't be that stupid? 
Mind you they have just completed a really crap badge redesign the fans all hate....
I hear thunder and I've got a terrible foreboding sense of deja-vu.
Everton 34-1 (best price) to go down.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: olaftab on May 28, 2013, 09:32:09 PM

Phew.  Is somebody keeping a checklist, as this is all getting hard to remember?

Clubs with a vacancy: Stoke, Wolves, Everton, Man City, Malaga, Chelsea, Real Madrid, Brighton TBC, Millwall....


How did you forget  the greatest club of all Whelanigan!
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: charlie on May 28, 2013, 10:18:19 PM
Lets laugh. Eck to Whelanigan, MoN to stoke throwers, Jewell to Manshite, Pulis to Evertion, Coyle to Chelski, Brolly to Doghead wandreres,
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: peter w on May 28, 2013, 10:50:11 PM
And still O'Wanker can't get a job here. I bet he thinks he's so precious he prices himself out of any early negotiations.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Nev on May 29, 2013, 08:15:59 AM
Hughes in at Stoke according to "football bible", the Stoke Sentinal. To be announced later. In a shit accent.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on May 29, 2013, 10:32:34 AM
Big mistake for stoke i feel, Hughes will be delighted with the gig but its not inspiring for stoke fans - although cant be any worse than the football dished up pulis .

Surprised poyet hasn't got the stoke job as he seemed the right man.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: curiousorange on May 29, 2013, 10:57:34 AM
Hughes is the perfect fit for Stoke. No point getting a football manager in when you've got a squad full of players who can't play football.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: not3bad on May 29, 2013, 10:58:20 AM
Martinez leaves Wigan.
Everton bound
The last club to appoint a manager who had won a cup but (widely ajudged to have been unluckily) relegated the same season, only just avoided the same fate (without the silverware) the next season.
Surely Everton couldn't be that stupid? 
Mind you they have just completed a really crap badge redesign the fans all hate....
I hear thunder and I've got a terrible foreboding sense of deja-vu.
Everton 34-1 (best price) to go down.

Texted my Everton supporting friend saying "Looks like it's Martinez to Everton!"
She replied with "Championship here we come! :-("
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: pauliewalnuts on May 29, 2013, 10:59:33 AM
Talking of Stoke, a few days old, but this article is very funny in places.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2013/may/24/tony-pulis-stoke-city?CMP=twt_gu

I particularly liked this bit:

Quote
Even as the good times first began to roll Pulis felt the need to go out and sign the Turkish midfielder Tuncay Sanli in much the same way a socially aspirational 18th century farmer might have imported at vast expense a clankingly useless Austrian harpsichord that nobody within 300 miles can actually play and which ends up being used to prop the parlour door open.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: jonzy85 on May 29, 2013, 11:12:33 AM
I presume I am not the only one that is absolutely delighted that we are not mixed up in this horrible merry-go-around this year. August 2009 was the last time we started a season with the manager we finished with the previous season.

I think that Martinez to Everton will see them fall back into the sea of mediocrity that makes up the majority of the best league in the world.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: KevinGage on May 29, 2013, 11:36:03 AM
Hughes is the perfect fit for Stoke. No point getting a football manager in when you've got a squad full of players who can't play football.

A little unfair.  His Blackburn side could play football and mix it, and Citeh and Fulham were a long way removed from some of the anti football served up in the top flight.

I actually think he'll do well there.   Well by Stoke standards, anyroad.  He has a solid base there defensively, unlike at QPR. 
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Damo70 on May 29, 2013, 11:42:34 AM
I fail to see how Martinez's record at Wigan makes him seem like a good appointment. I'm sure Steve Bruce had a better league record with them. Interesting to see Whelan backtracking on his ludicrous claims about his destiny. Everton are apparently a big, historic club who are worthy to have him as manager.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on May 29, 2013, 12:28:52 PM
I presume I am not the only one that is absolutely delighted that we are not mixed up in this horrible merry-go-around this year. August 2009 was the last time we started a season with the manager we finished with the previous season.

I think that Martinez to Everton will see them fall back into the sea of mediocrity that makes up the majority of the best league in the world.

Totally agree, Martinez to wigan will see the goodison side slip back into midtable in my opinion - his 4 years of struggle culminating in relegation at wigan are hardly credentials for the everton job.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: olaftab on May 29, 2013, 12:38:24 PM
Hughes in at Stoke according to "football bible", the Stoke Sentinal. To be announced later. In a shit accent.

So I assume the up and coming Dutch coach Juus Hoof de Bahll is now not being considered by Stoke?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: LeeB on May 29, 2013, 12:42:07 PM
Hughes in at Stoke according to "football bible", the Stoke Sentinal. To be announced later. In a shit accent.

So I assume the up and coming Dutch coach Juus Hoof de Bahll is now not being considered by Stoke?

He was going to bring Luke de Long Throw with him as well.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: PaulWinch again on May 29, 2013, 01:03:39 PM
I'd be curious to see where Laudrup ends up in the next couple of years. He was a fantastic player, and has impressed me as a manager as well. His team plays good football and considering how big of a name he is, he seems very humble. He also said Villa are a huge club, so points for that.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Bren'd on May 29, 2013, 01:04:05 PM
Hughes in at Stoke according to "football bible", the Stoke Sentinal. To be announced later. In a shit accent.

So I assume the up and coming Dutch coach Juus Hoof de Bahll is now not being considered by Stoke?

He was going to bring Luke de Long Throw with him as well.

There will come a time soon when Stoke revert back to the lower reaches of the Championship where fans will look back at they're glory years in the Premiership.  DeLap will be remembered as the God of the throw and Huth the God of the elbow to chin.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on May 29, 2013, 01:04:33 PM
I'd be curious to see where Laudrup ends up in the next couple of years. He was a fantastic player, and has impressed me as a manager as well. His team plays good football and considering how big of a name he is, he seems very humble. He also said Villa are a huge club, so points for that.

Much better fit for everton than Martinez i believe.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: CJ on May 29, 2013, 01:30:33 PM
That nice shy, retiring and discreet Wigan owner was quoted on R5 this morning saying Everton had been in contact with them on Friday, so looks like Martinez nailed on for Everton
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Ads on May 29, 2013, 01:32:58 PM
He was dropping the amount of compensation Everton would have to pay too.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Damo70 on May 29, 2013, 03:28:51 PM
Paying compo to take a manager who has relegated a club off their hands. Trendsetters. That's what we are.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on May 29, 2013, 03:33:08 PM
That nice shy, retiring and discreet Wigan owner was quoted on R5 this morning saying Everton had been in contact with them on Friday, so looks like Martinez nailed on for Everton

Just seen kenwright on tv saying Martinez is one of several names that will be spoken to about the job and that no decisions have been made regarding anyone yet.

Whelan has this problem of telling people the jobs been offered to him - he said the same about villa and Liverpool- just because he's on the short list doesn't mean the job is his - i hope Martinez takes the everton job because i think he will be a poor choice for them indeed.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: rob_bridge on May 29, 2013, 04:04:49 PM
Martinez proabbly got fed up of listening to Whelan's 'anecdote' about breaking his leg in 1960 final. Let's face facts everyone else is.

When we were allegedly in for him I thought it was a punt but at least it was a progressive punt. Primarily because Martinez is articulate without the Appy Arry quips, conducts himself well, comes across as a thinker and at least tries to play football in the right manner and had set up Swansea for success. We ended up with the disaster that was the antedote to all of that TSM.

Same thing here it is a punt for Everton. Moyes was at the time remember.

As for Laudrup - I think he will end up somewhere bigger than Everton in 2 or 3 years time. Much bigger so will bide his time.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on May 29, 2013, 04:22:11 PM
That's probably true - i think laudrup would have used everton as a stepping stone and left for a bigger job pretty soon so i guess kenwright is looking for a long term fit.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Mister E on May 29, 2013, 06:59:59 PM
Everton's problems are an ageing / jaded squad and not a lot of dosh. Martinez will need all nous he can muster to develop an inexpensive squad capable of fighting in three competitions; not an easy task, overnight. I suppose his success all depends on the expectations of the owner and fans.
I think I'd rather be in our position right now.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: villa kicks on May 29, 2013, 07:10:54 PM
Everton's problems are an ageing / jaded squad and not a lot of dosh. Martinez will need all nous he can muster to develop an inexpensive squad capable of fighting in three competitions; not an easy task, overnight. I suppose his success all depends on the expectations of the owner and fans.
I think I'd rather be in our position right now.

I think everton have a good blend of youth and experience. Plus with the money for     Fellaini £25mil they can get in some younger defenders for Distin. also Ross Barkley is quality player only 19. Martinez is shrewd enough with his signings. Nzogbia, Maloney, Kone Mcarthur Mcarthy Rodellega Moses all decent signings for him
Tim Howard, 34 Years
Sylvain Distin    35 Years
Phil Jagielka -, 30 Years
Leighton Baines, 28 Years
Seamus Coleman, 24 Years
Marouane Fellaini, 25 Years 
Darron Gibson, 25 Years
Steven Pienaar, 31 Years
Nic Jelavic, 26 Years   
Kevin Mirallas 25 Years   
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Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: ozzjim on May 29, 2013, 08:54:19 PM
Rodellega and Charlie were Bruce signings. Moses was an obvious one. Maloney, McCarthy, McCarthur, and Kone have been decent but he has signed some donkeys there too.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: SoccerHQ on May 29, 2013, 09:15:47 PM
Leon Osman is in his 30s aswell even though I still think he's only about 26.

I reckon Kone will be an obvious signing.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Villa in Denmark on May 29, 2013, 09:53:13 PM
That's probably true - i think laudrup would have used everton as a stepping stone and left for a bigger job pretty soon so i guess kenwright is looking for a long term fit.

The media over here have always insisted that Laudrup's managerial career is built around building a track record get the Barcelona job.

The job he did keeping Mallorca afloat in La Liga in 2010/11 shouldn't be underestimated, where he kept what was reported over here as basically a hotch pitch of reserves and bargain basement signings up after the board sold pretty much anyoe with any value. He resigned at the end of the season when asked to sell a large portion of the new squad and repeat the trick again.

Most Danes I've discussed football with, think he's the only possible successor to Morten Olsen as national team manager.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Nev on May 30, 2013, 07:34:01 AM
Hughes in at Stoke.

Stoke fans want him out.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: DB on May 30, 2013, 08:08:40 AM
I predict next season Stoke will finish below where they did last season. Hughes keeps getting jobs, why???
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: john e on May 30, 2013, 09:11:04 AM
what sort of football does Hughes teams play ?

I couldn't tell you for sure, even though he's been around for a while he doesn't seem to be defined by any particular style of play, sort of neutral football, non definable.

he did quite well at Blackburn, maybe alright at City abysmally at QPR,
he's all over the place, its imposible to know how he will do at Stoke, but on the basis that Pullis is the worst football manager of the modern age (just my opinion) he cant do any worse you would think

he's just well ... boring,
 on the cartwheel of managers that keep turning up bit like Reid, Robson (brian) etc used to be
there was enough posters on here wanting him at VP pre QPR, so he must have had some sort of gravitas, but I don't know what for,
 I don't wish Stoke any harm now they have got rid of mr anti football and think Hughes will take them into steady mediocrity again without the thuggishness and American football tactics

as for Martinez if he goes to Everton, I think he will be a big hit, very good tactical manager who will now have a bigger opportunity to show what he can do,
 without always fighting a losing battle against relegation with a small club punching well above there weight, and be able to sign more capable players which was always difficult at Wigan,
he is also a class act on and of the pitch



Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Clampy on May 30, 2013, 09:11:54 AM
I predict next season Stoke will finish below where they did last season. Hughes keeps getting jobs, why???

Probably the same reason why Bryan Robson kept getting jobs, because of who he was. He'll bring in a few players on massive wages, create a unpleasant atmosphere in the dressing room and it'll end in tears probably.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Damo70 on May 30, 2013, 04:38:34 PM
That's probably true - i think laudrup would have used everton as a stepping stone and left for a bigger job pretty soon so i guess kenwright is looking for a long term fit.

The media over here have always insisted that Laudrup's managerial career is built around building a track record get the Barcelona job.

The job he did keeping Mallorca afloat in La Liga in 2010/11 shouldn't be underestimated, where he kept what was reported over here as basically a hotch pitch of reserves and bargain basement signings up after the board sold pretty much anyoe with any value. He resigned at the end of the season when asked to sell a large portion of the new squad and repeat the trick again.

Most Danes I've discussed football with, think he's the only possible successor to Morten Olsen as national team manager.
The first piece of advice I would give to anyone who covets the Barcelona managers job is not to leave them as a player to join Real Madrid.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: john e on May 30, 2013, 04:58:10 PM
That's probably true - i think laudrup would have used everton as a stepping stone and left for a bigger job pretty soon so i guess kenwright is looking for a long term fit.

The media over here have always insisted that Laudrup's managerial career is built around building a track record get the Barcelona job.

The job he did keeping Mallorca afloat in La Liga in 2010/11 shouldn't be underestimated, where he kept what was reported over here as basically a hotch pitch of reserves and bargain basement signings up after the board sold pretty much anyoe with any value. He resigned at the end of the season when asked to sell a large portion of the new squad and repeat the trick again.

Most Danes I've discussed football with, think he's the only possible successor to Morten Olsen as national team manager.
The first piece of advice I would give to anyone who covets the Barcelona managers job is not to leave them as a player to join Real Madrid.


luis Figo need not apply then
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Damo70 on May 30, 2013, 05:11:20 PM
I don't know if Laudrup got the full pig's head treatment on his return, but he still broke the golden rule. Uncle Bill at Everton seems to have the right idea. I think he is popping round for a cup of tea and a chat with every season ticket holder to gauge their opinion. That is the impression he is giving.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: PaulWinch again on May 30, 2013, 06:51:00 PM
I'm only putting this in here because I've just seen a story on Jupp Hencykes going back to Madrid as manager, but it's a story on Sky Sports News on the back of people putting money on him on Sky bet. Does anyone think this is slightly off? Surely it would potentially influence people putting money on him and thus artificially alter the odds.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Tokyo Sexwhale on May 30, 2013, 09:41:08 PM
Ralf Rangnick (ex-Schalke manager) has apparently been interviewed for the Everton job.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: LeeB on May 30, 2013, 09:42:00 PM
Ralf Rangnick (ex-Schalke manager) has apparently been interviewed for the Everton job.

Is he the one who went a bit mad?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: peter w on May 30, 2013, 10:02:29 PM
Ralf Rangnick (ex-Schalke manager) has apparently been interviewed for the Everton job.

Wasn't he in deliverance?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: ozzjim on May 30, 2013, 11:48:46 PM
He was a very popular nae banded about for our job a couple of years back, and was close to the Albion job last summer I am sure.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Bottom Right 89 on May 31, 2013, 08:42:35 AM
Ralf Rangnick (ex-Schalke manager) has apparently been interviewed for the Everton job.
This made me smile - apparently he was spotted with Kenwright in London.

Those were the days when we used to get 20 pages of debate over a snippet like this, shame Kenwright hasn't got a jet to track like our Randy.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: not3bad on May 31, 2013, 10:22:25 AM
Out of curiousity does anyone know how things are going with Solskjaer nowadays?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: VillaAlways on May 31, 2013, 10:27:31 AM
Out of curiousity does anyone know how things are going with Solskjær nowadays?
Didn't someone post not long ago that Molde were bottom of their league?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Dave Cooper please on May 31, 2013, 11:44:41 AM
Out of curiousity does anyone know how things are going with Solskjær nowadays?
Didn't someone post not long ago that Molde were bottom of their league?

Second bottom now, they won on Saturday.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Nev on May 31, 2013, 03:39:47 PM
Jackett in at the Moolinex.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: LeeB on May 31, 2013, 03:40:43 PM
Jackett in at the Moolinex.

Ooh, look out world.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on May 31, 2013, 03:41:06 PM
Out of curiousity does anyone know how things are going with Solskjær nowadays?
Didn't someone post not long ago that Molde were bottom of their league?

Second bottom now, they won on Saturday.

Really ? Maybe we were lucky to miss out on him then .

Regarging the appointment at molineux i think most fans feel no jackett required - not an inspiring choice , I would have kept Deano as he knows division one well and had Doncaster top.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Clampy on May 31, 2013, 03:51:36 PM
I think Kenny Jackett is a good move for them personally.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: OCD on May 31, 2013, 03:52:41 PM
For some reason I read that as Wolves having appointed Kenny Everett.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Clampy on May 31, 2013, 03:55:48 PM
For some reason I read that as Wolves having appointed Kenny Everett.

What a cupid stunt.  ;)
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Matt C on May 31, 2013, 05:36:56 PM
Coyle to Wigan then?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Damo70 on May 31, 2013, 06:53:37 PM
With Hughes going to Stoke and Everton seemingly looking elsewhere, does this mean that Europe's most sought after coach will be unemployed? Or is he still technically at Wigan? If he is does that mean he could still end up managing there next season? All these questions and more will be answered on next week's episode of Soap....
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: claretandbeer on May 31, 2013, 07:31:09 PM
With Hughes going to Stoke and Everton seemingly looking elsewhere, does this mean that Europe's most sought after coach will be unemployed? Or is he still technically at Wigan? If he is does that mean he could still end up managing there next season? All these questions and more will be answered on next week's episode of Soap....
Surely Real Madrid ,if they can afford the compensation required by Whelan.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: olaftab on May 31, 2013, 10:33:20 PM
With Hughes going to Stoke and Everton seemingly looking elsewhere, does this mean that Europe's most sought after coach will be unemployed? Or is he still technically at Wigan? If he is does that mean he could still end up managing there next season? All these questions and more will be answered on next week's episode of Soap....
Don't forget Real Madrid job is still open!
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: rob_bridge on May 31, 2013, 11:15:22 PM
Jackett's probably a decent choice for the Dogheads.

Oo Eck second favourite for Millwall job
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: damon loves JT on June 01, 2013, 02:49:15 PM
Ralf Rangnick (ex-Schalke manager) has apparently been interviewed for the Everton job.

Is he the one who went a bit mad?

I'm sure that came up at the interview.

'Thank you for coming, mr Rangnick. I trust you had a pleasant flight.

'Now, aren't you the one who went a bit mad?'
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on June 01, 2013, 03:47:12 PM
Rangnick would be a better choice than Martinez for everton in my opinion.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: olaftab on June 01, 2013, 06:50:25 PM
I would  larrrf all day if Everton turn down the truly amazing gift from (Sir)David Whelan!
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: timeoutbigbar on June 01, 2013, 07:58:23 PM
ignore this, wrong thread.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Damo70 on June 02, 2013, 03:00:37 PM
I would  larrrf all day if Everton turn down the truly amazing gift from (Sir)David Whelan!

Leaving him with a choice of a coaching role at Man City, the Millwall job or unemployment. Or staying at/going back to Wigan?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on June 02, 2013, 03:05:53 PM
I would  larrrf all day if Everton turn down the truly amazing gift from (Sir)David Whelan!

Leaving him with a choice of a coaching role at Man City, the Millwall job or unemployment. Or staying at/going back to Wigan?

Dont rule out Malaga.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Damo70 on June 02, 2013, 05:31:34 PM
I'm going to stick my neck out here and rule out Malaga.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: rob_bridge on June 02, 2013, 10:15:41 PM
I'm going to stick my neck out here and rule out Malaga.

Brazil it is then. Scolari is on borrowed time
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Chris Jameson on June 03, 2013, 09:40:06 AM
I understand they will be looking for a new Doctor Who soon. Martinez? He'll understand timewarps and all that nonsense having spent so long in Wigan.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: damon loves JT on June 03, 2013, 12:36:09 PM
Martinez is not gay enough to be Dr Who.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Clampy on June 03, 2013, 12:44:05 PM
I understand they will be looking for a new Doctor Who soon. Martinez? He'll understand timewarps and all that nonsense having spent so long in Wigan.

But they'd have to put it on between March and May for it to be any good.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: London Villan on June 03, 2013, 02:09:26 PM
Jose confirmed at Chelsea apparently.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Nev on June 03, 2013, 02:15:49 PM
Great to have him back, football needs characters like him, watch out refs, watch out journalists and playerssszzzzzzzzzz.......bore off!
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on June 03, 2013, 02:28:54 PM
Great to have him back, football needs characters like him, watch out refs, watch out journalists and playerssszzzzzzzzzz.......bore off!

Get rid of one arrogant prick in Fergie and up turns another in the shape of Mourinho - you either love him or hate him I suppose..I`m certainly in the latter camp. 
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: VillaAlways on June 03, 2013, 02:36:43 PM
Great to have him back, football needs characters like him, watch out refs, watch out journalists and playerssszzzzzzzzzz.......bore off!

Get rid of one arrogant prick in Fergie and up turns another in the shape of Mourinho - you either love him or hate him I suppose..I`m certainly in the latter camp. 
Me too. I think he's a twat of the highest order and I hope it goes spectacularly wrong.(It won't unfortunately as he will have millions to spend )
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Dr Butler on June 03, 2013, 02:46:53 PM
never go back, it's never the same...(hope it goes spectacularly wrong for the lottery winners of the Kings Road but with all that loot ?? it won't)

UTV
The Doc
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Greg N'Ash on June 03, 2013, 02:52:30 PM
(http://abload.de/img/moureturrrrrnedj4n.gif)
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: KevinGage on June 03, 2013, 02:58:16 PM
Outstanding.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Chipsticks on June 03, 2013, 03:07:40 PM
Similiar to Holloway, I like to have him because of the character he brings. Although I reserve the right to call him every name in the book when we play them.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Clampy on June 03, 2013, 03:09:53 PM
I think it might be wise to avoid SSN for the forseeable future then.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 03, 2013, 03:12:47 PM
I think it might be wise to avoid SSN for the forseeable future then.

I am still avoiding it for the Ferguson fall-out.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: richard moore on June 03, 2013, 03:16:13 PM
Great to have him back, football needs characters like him, watch out refs, watch out journalists and playerssszzzzzzzzzz.......bore off!

Really, I can't stand the tosser? Arrogant twat. If I needed any more reason to loathe the despicable scum than I already have, he has just provided it
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: bertlambshank on June 03, 2013, 03:28:44 PM
I think it might be wise to avoid SSN for the forseeable future then.
TSP is about to explode.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Clampy on June 03, 2013, 03:34:54 PM
I think it might be wise to avoid SSN for the forseeable future then.
TSP is about to explode.

They're even worse, it's all their programmes sorted for the entire week.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: bertlambshank on June 03, 2013, 03:38:24 PM
I think it might be wise to avoid SSN for the forseeable future then.
TSP is about to explode.
The Scottish Presenter.

They're even worse, it's all their programmes sorted for the entire week.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Clampy on June 03, 2013, 03:43:24 PM
I think it might be wise to avoid SSN for the forseeable future then.
TSP is about to explode.
The Scottish Presenter.

They're even worse, it's all their programmes sorted for the entire week.

Ahh you were on about Mr Deadline Day or whatever they call him? Sorry. Yes i can imagine he is.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: OCD on June 03, 2013, 03:45:12 PM
Jim White.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on June 03, 2013, 03:47:07 PM
I think it might be wise to avoid SSN for the forseeable future then.
TSP is about to explode.

Can you blame him when Kirsty gallaghers sitting next to him looking soooo hottttttt?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: damon loves JT on June 03, 2013, 03:51:37 PM
He is the same wherever he is.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: CJ on June 03, 2013, 03:52:57 PM
The media will have a field day all next season with Mourinho and rent-a-gob-gollum Holloway quotes. Can't stand either of them
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Bren'd on June 03, 2013, 03:56:30 PM
I must be in the minority as I'm glad he's back.  Don't get me wrong, should it all go horribly wrong for him and the club I'd love that too.  I just hope he pokes Phil Dowd in the eye or worse.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: damon loves JT on June 03, 2013, 04:00:40 PM
It gives SSN somebody to obsess with. I am happy for Villa to be ignored by the media.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Clampy on June 03, 2013, 04:02:42 PM
It gives SSN somebody to obsess with. I am happy for Villa to be ignored by the media.

This is a good point.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Damo70 on June 03, 2013, 04:12:35 PM
I always like to give people the benefit of the doubt. In Jim White's case I always think that maybe he shouts all the time because he is going deaf. As opposed to just being a twat who shouts all the time like Dom Joly doing his mobile phone sketch. "Hello! I'm on the telly telling people something very important and exciting"!
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Nev on June 03, 2013, 04:21:20 PM
Who let all the air out of David Bobin?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on June 03, 2013, 04:33:24 PM
I must be in the minority as I'm glad he's back.  Don't get me wrong, should it all go horribly wrong for him and the club I'd love that too.  I just hope he pokes Phil Dowd in the eye or worse.

Agreed he is a character and the game needs those - same as holloway , far rather listen to either of those two than the likes of pardew or Hughes.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: john e on June 03, 2013, 04:37:51 PM
I must be in the minority as I'm glad he's back.  Don't get me wrong, should it all go horribly wrong for him and the club I'd love that too.  I just hope he pokes Phil Dowd in the eye or worse.


much the same for me,
I think it will end in tears but not until theirs a bit of silverwear for Chelsea first, Mourinho falls out with everybody in the end

i still haven't met a woman who doesn't fancy him either, my misses hates football with a passion, but she will still stop and listen to him,
 same with my Mum, but she's 74 now, and i don't think she's his type
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: damon loves JT on June 03, 2013, 04:40:23 PM
I always like to give people the benefit of the doubt. In Jim White's case I always think that maybe he shouts all the time because he is going deaf. As opposed to just being a twat who shouts all the time like Dom Joly doing his mobile phone sketch. "Hello! I'm on the telly telling people something very important and exciting"!

When we were filming outside Carrington on the day Ferguson resigned, his voice is audible in everything we filmed. It's like sleeping under the flight path to Heathrow, the noise is so continuous that eventually you don't notice it
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: KevinGage on June 03, 2013, 04:55:59 PM
I must be in the minority as I'm glad he's back.  Don't get me wrong, should it all go horribly wrong for him and the club I'd love that too.  I just hope he pokes Phil Dowd in the eye or worse.

Agreed he is a character and the game needs those - same as holloway

Give the Crystal Palace job to Norris out of Coronation Street then.

Hollowtalk is utterly shite - in every way.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on June 03, 2013, 05:03:49 PM
Quote
Agreed he is a character and the game needs those - same as holloway , far rather listen to either of those two than the likes of pardew or Hughes

That carrot-crunching Wurzel lunatic did us a favour a couple of years ago by calling us a half-arsed club and not selling Charlie Adam to us. The only reason the game needs idiots like Holloway is to provide us all with a good laugh when his sides get relegated and he gets the sack.

He's like a country bumpkin version of Di Canio. Although Paulo has a slightly better grasp of the English language.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Jon Crofts on June 03, 2013, 05:08:51 PM
Loathsome little man, full of piss & wind, I hope it all goes spectacularly wrong for him & that bunch of classless wankers near Fulham.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on June 03, 2013, 05:25:43 PM
Quote
Agreed he is a character and the game needs those - same as holloway , far rather listen to either of those two than the likes of pardew or Hughes

That carrot-crunching Wurzel lunatic did us a favour a couple of years ago by calling us a half-arsed club and not selling Charlie Adam to us. The only reason the game needs idiots like Holloway is to provide us all with a good laugh when his sides get relegated and he gets the sack.

He's like a country bumpkin version of Di Canio. Although Paulo has a slightly better grasp of the English language.

On holiday i read his autobiography on my kindle and i must say i found it to be one of the best autobiographies I've read in a long time - the man behind the public persona is very different .
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Chris Jameson on June 03, 2013, 05:43:13 PM
Has Darren read it?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: damon loves JT on June 03, 2013, 05:47:17 PM
I would not read Ian Holloway's autobiography unless threatened at gunpoint. And even then I would just pretend to read it
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on June 03, 2013, 05:51:55 PM
I would not read Ian Holloway's autobiography unless threatened at gunpoint. And even then I would just pretend to read it

If everyone had the same views then it would be boring dg, each and all of us have our own opinions are free to read what we wish.

Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: damon loves JT on June 03, 2013, 05:56:18 PM
I would not read Ian Holloway's autobiography unless threatened at gunpoint. And even then I would just pretend to read it

If everyone had the same views then it would be boring dg, each and all of us have our own opinions are free to read what we wish.



I'd read an account of Ian Holloway being sewn up in a sack with a moray eel and thrown in the sea. Is that in there?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: ozzjim on June 03, 2013, 06:08:38 PM
I would happily partake in that bit of needlework.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Toronto Villa on June 03, 2013, 06:16:21 PM
I would happily partake in that bit of needlework.

I would ask that you sew my eyes shut with a rusty needle if I was being forced to read Holloway's bollocks in print.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: damon loves JT on June 03, 2013, 06:19:32 PM
I have been halfway through 'War and Peace' for about a year now. One of the reasons I can't finish it is that I'm worried Holloway's spell at Blackpool will crop up as a sub-plot
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: PaulWinch again on June 03, 2013, 06:25:31 PM
I don't mind Mourinho and that recent story of him getting that fan to be part of the staff for a couple of games was great.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eamonn on June 03, 2013, 06:29:00 PM
That gif super-imposed heads thing is amazing.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Clampy on June 03, 2013, 06:31:07 PM
I would not read Ian Holloway's autobiography unless threatened at gunpoint. And even then I would just pretend to read it

There's also a book called 'The Little Book of Ollie-isms' by the man himself. Maybe you'd prefer that?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Jimbo on June 03, 2013, 06:32:27 PM
Ian Holloway's autobiography is on my reading list, after Michael Barrymore's autobiography, "Making a Fist of It."
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Clampy on June 03, 2013, 06:34:15 PM
Ian Holloway's autobiography is on my reading list, after Michael Barrymore's autobiography, "Making a Fist of It."

Not one to read by the pool though.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: cheltenhamlion on June 03, 2013, 07:13:17 PM
Nope. Not one for the holiday list that.

Michael Barrymore: "Awight dear, I think there's a floater"
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on June 03, 2013, 07:15:13 PM
Ian Holloway's autobiography is on my reading list, after Michael Barrymore's autobiography, "Making a Fist of It."

Not one to read by the pool though.

Excellent clampy!!
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Chris Jameson on June 03, 2013, 07:29:17 PM
I would not read Ian Holloway's autobiography unless threatened at gunpoint. And even then I would just pretend to read it

You say that now but as soon as Darren says he's reading it and "it is good, I am enjoying it, it is interesting", then you'll change your tune.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 03, 2013, 08:03:49 PM
I would not read Ian Holloway's autobiography unless threatened at gunpoint. And even then I would just pretend to read it

You say that now but as soon as Darren says he's reading it and "it is good I am enjoying it it is interesting", then you'll change your tune.

I've corrected your errors there.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Chris Jameson on June 03, 2013, 08:14:57 PM
Thanks paulie.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Lizz on June 03, 2013, 08:19:02 PM
I always like to give people the benefit of the doubt. In Jim White's case I always think that maybe he shouts all the time because he is going deaf. As opposed to just being a twat who shouts all the time like Dom Joly doing his mobile phone sketch. "Hello! I'm on the telly telling people something very important and exciting"!

Admittedly it's from Wikipedia - you can't arrest me, I'm interviewing Jose Mourinho tomorrow. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_White_%28presenter%29)
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Lizz on June 03, 2013, 08:22:03 PM
Shame for Dave Whelan that confirmation of Martinez to Everton [yawn] is overshadowed by Jose Mourinho's return to Chelsea.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Toronto Villa on June 03, 2013, 08:27:08 PM
Shame for Dave Whelan that confirmation of Martinez to Everton [yawn] is overshadowed by Jose Mourinho's return to Chelsea.

he was too good for Chelsea anyway. Whelan will be gutted he ended up at some poxy NW club who've nothing like Everton
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: N'Rexy on June 03, 2013, 09:57:54 PM
Whelan has just been on R5. He is horribly in love with himself. Why hasn't anyone asked him about the compensation?

He said he wouldn't ever stand in Martinez's way to go to a 'massive club' but as soon as it looks likely he immediatley changes tack and wants compensation.  And mark chapman virtually disappeared up his ass whilst talking to him.

Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: bertlambshank on June 03, 2013, 10:30:39 PM
Whelan has just been on R5. He is horribly in love with himself. Why hasn't anyone asked him about the compensation?

He said he wouldn't ever stand in Martinez's way to go to a 'massive club' but as soon as it looks likely he immediatley changes tack and wants compensation.  And mark chapman virtually disappeared up his ass whilst talking to him.


Everton 20/1 to go down For a manager who has a G/D of -109 throughout his career (including Div One its got to be worth a punt.
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Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 03, 2013, 10:32:51 PM
i don't think he'd get them relegated, but I can see them having a tough season this year.

If they lose Fellaini and Baines to Man United, as might happen, then they could have a very tough one indeed.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: olaftab on June 03, 2013, 10:39:11 PM
Shame for Dave Whelan that confirmation of Martinez to Everton [yawn] is overshadowed by Jose Mourinho's return to Chelsea.
I am surprised the cheeky tosser didn't try to delay it by a day.
Talking of big news I am an expert now on Chelsea's pre season Asian tour. So if any of you have not heard their match schedule they are repeating it every fifteen minutes on SSN!
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Post by: Bully2345 on June 03, 2013, 10:46:32 PM
Everton not happy with Whelan's "premature" announcement
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Post by: atomicjam on June 03, 2013, 10:48:43 PM
Looks like Whelan may have spoken too soon... I still think Martinez will go to Everton but it is not 100% yet.

http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/2013/06/03/everton-statement

In response to regrettable and somewhat premature reports earlier this evening, Everton Football Club are continuing discussions with regards to the vacant managerial position.

Whilst positive moves are being made, the Club will officially announce details as and only when they are agreed and completed.


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Post by: Clampy on June 03, 2013, 10:52:24 PM
Shame for Dave Whelan that confirmation of Martinez to Everton [yawn] is overshadowed by Jose Mourinho's return to Chelsea.
I am surprised the cheeky tosser didn't try to delay it by a day.
Talking of big news I am an expert now on Chelsea's pre season Asian tour. So if any of you have not heard their match schedule they are repeating it every fifteen minutes on SSN!

Have they interviewed John Hollins outside Stamford Bridge yet? They normally do.
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Post by: Nev on June 04, 2013, 07:17:21 AM
I'm bored already. The woman on BBC Breakfast was gushing, talking about the "twinkle in his eye" and read an e-mail out who thought his return was great on account of his good looks. Nice work there.

Oh,  and for clarity, this was concerning Mourihno and not Benny Jacket at Wolves
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Post by: ozzjim on June 04, 2013, 07:21:50 AM
I am bored of Mourinho again already. Madrid has made him a very cynical and bitter coach. Not good that he is back and it will end in tears.
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Post by: Yossarian on June 04, 2013, 07:32:27 AM
Jose going back to Chelsea will just be like Kendall going back to Everton.
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Post by: Greg N'Ash on June 04, 2013, 07:46:36 AM
I feel sorry* for Moyes in all this. Considering a lot of Man United's fans wanted Mourinho and then got someone they didn't want in Moyes, the impossible task of following Ferguson just got a bit more impossible. I suppose it could deflect the spotlight off Moyes for a while and help, but if United start badly and Chelsea don't then the knives will be out for him. Fergie retirement re-think by January i reckon.


*well as sorry as anyone who wants to see Man United  get relegated can manage*
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Post by: Nev on June 04, 2013, 07:55:39 AM
Jose going back to Chelsea will just be like Kendall going back to Everton.

They do say "never go back", but the scene has changed these days, clubs such as Chelsea already have a significant financial advantage over most other teams. Not that has ever had anything to do with Mourinho going there, no, he loves the club you know. Oh yes.
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Post by: richard moore on June 04, 2013, 08:20:05 AM
What is encouraging is that it can't go well for all of these new appointments so it is going to go 'tit's up' somewhere early in the season. I'd particularly love to see it go pear shaped at Chelsea early doors but even if they are doing very well, it will probably mean the two Manchester teams are falling below expectations. And vice versa of course. So, along with the Everton appointment, the chances of it going spectacularly wrong for one of these new managers is quite high, just on the law of averages alone. I have this wonderful dream of seeing Chelsea or Man Utd mid table at Christmas and out of the CL...
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Post by: fredm on June 04, 2013, 08:24:43 AM
I feel sorry* for Moyes in all this. Considering a lot of Man United's fans wanted Mourinho and then got someone they didn't want in Moyes, the impossible task of following Ferguson just got a bit more impossible. I suppose it could deflect the spotlight off Moyes for a while and help, but if United start badly and Chelsea don't then the knives will be out for him. Fergie retirement re-think by January i reckon.


*well as sorry as anyone who wants to see Man United  get relegated can manage*

I said the same yesterday. If Man U are, say 4th at Christmas what will the likelihood be of Fergie being called back?
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Post by: damon loves JT on June 04, 2013, 08:28:33 AM
I am really looking forward to a prolonged bout of 'concern trolling' on Twitter in November. With Newton Heath fifth in the table and Rooney awaiting trial for aggravated hair transplant
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Post by: Greg N'Ash on June 04, 2013, 08:28:48 AM
What is encouraging is that it can't go well for all of these new appointments so it is going to go 'tit's up' somewhere early in the season. I'd particularly love to see it go pear shaped at Chelsea early doors but even if they are doing very well, it will probably mean the two Manchester teams are falling below expectations. And vice versa of course. So, along with the Everton appointment, the chances of it going spectacularly wrong for one of these new managers is quite high, just on the law of averages alone. I have this wonderful dream of seeing Chelsea or Man Utd mid table at Christmas and out of the CL...


Aye. Someone has got to fail. My money is on Man Utd. The average Man United fan welcomed Moyes the same way we did GH.  All it takes is a few iffy results and they'll turn. Mourinho, the fans at least will give him time, the new guy at Citeh is an unknown quantity i guess, but one of them will be a total carcrash.
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Post by: damon loves JT on June 04, 2013, 08:31:14 AM
It's going to be epic. For the first time in years, Villa can honestly say they have more managerial stability than any of the teams at the top of the table.
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Post by: Damo70 on June 04, 2013, 09:58:19 AM
Who let all the air out of David Bobin?

I thought that when I saw him a couple of days ago (on the telly, I don't know him). Tan aside, I thought he looked gaunt and ill. The last time I thought that was with Danny Fullbrook on The Sunday Supplement and a couple of weeks later he had ceased to be.

On the subject of women on breakfast TV gushing about Mourinho's looks, the weather wench on ITV a week or so back was reduced to a gibbering wreck by the presence on the sofa of Bradley Cooper.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: damon loves JT on June 04, 2013, 10:25:24 AM
Who let all the air out of David Bobin?

I thought that when I saw him a couple of days ago (on the telly, I don't know him). Tan aside, I thought he looked gaunt and ill. The last time I thought that was with Danny Fullbrook on The Sunday Supplement and a couple of weeks later he had ceased to be.

On the subject of women on breakfast TV gushing about Mourinho's looks, the weather wench on ITV a week or so back was reduced to a gibbering wreck by the presence on the sofa of Bradley Cooper.

ITV weather girls have form. I've told the story about Sian `Thumbs Up' Lloyd. And last week the Granada weather girl was bending my ear about her love affair with Bill Roche. All I could think about was a nature documentary about the mating habits of giant tortoises
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Post by: ozzjim on June 04, 2013, 01:47:18 PM
In all of it, the one club that should benefit and get their act together with 4-5 top signings is Arsenal. Best chance in 10 years for them to dominate the table.
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Post by: jonzy85 on June 04, 2013, 01:54:56 PM
In all of it, the one club that should benefit and get their act together with 4-5 top signings is Arsenal. Best chance in 10 years for them to dominate the table.

Worth a punt at 12/1 I reckon.
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Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 04, 2013, 02:20:19 PM
In all of it, the one club that should benefit and get their act together with 4-5 top signings is Arsenal. Best chance in 10 years for them to dominate the table.

Hmmm.

That's been the case for ages, though. The problem is with the "4-5 top signings" thing. They haven't done that for ages, and probably wouldn't be able to afford to do it now, even if they could identify the players and get them to agree to come.
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Post by: Nev on June 04, 2013, 02:58:55 PM
Who let all the air out of David Bobin?

I thought that when I saw him a couple of days ago (on the telly, I don't know him). Tan aside, I thought he looked gaunt and ill. The last time I thought that was with Danny Fullbrook on The Sunday Supplement and a couple of weeks later he had ceased to be.

On the subject of women on breakfast TV gushing about Mourinho's looks, the weather wench on ITV a week or so back was reduced to a gibbering wreck by the presence on the sofa of Bradley Cooper.

ITV weather girls have form. I've told the story about Sian `Thumbs Up' Lloyd. And last week the Granada weather girl was bending my ear about her love affair with Bill Roche. All I could think about was a nature documentary about the mating habits of giant tortoises

She's on ATV as well, there must be some sort of "arrangement".........

*shrill voice*Bye bye
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Post by: Des Little on June 04, 2013, 03:59:02 PM
In all of it, the one club that should benefit and get their act together with 4-5 top signings is Arsenal. Best chance in 10 years for them to dominate the table.

Worth a punt at 12/1 I reckon.

I'm having some of that
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Post by: eastie on June 04, 2013, 04:16:06 PM
I see whelans opened  his gob again - telling the world that everton had agreed compensation for Martinez- bill kenwright has released a statement saying whelans comments are both regrettable and premature and that nobody has been offered the job as yet .
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Post by: Toronto Villa on June 04, 2013, 04:19:54 PM
I think you're wasting your money. Even if Arsenal do get the players they need, now that Mourinho is back in town, he'll just lay down a voyeur comment or something equally as annoying and it will completely derail Wenger/Arsenal. Arsenal played well in the end to get back into the CL spots, but had they been involved in the title race Ferguson would have taken him apart mentally. Don't get fooled by Arsenal's late run because CL spot aside it meant fuck all, (unless you consider getting 4th an achievement that is). The last thing Wenger wanted with Ferguson gone is the Special Fucker showing up at the other end of the city.
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Post by: Mister E on June 04, 2013, 04:24:06 PM
I think you're wasting your money. Even if Arsenal do get the players they need, now that Mourinho is back in town, he'll just lay down a voyeur comment or something equally as annoying and it will completely derail Wenger/Arsenal. Arsenal played well in the end to get back into the CL spots, but had they been involved in the title race Ferguson would have taken him apart mentally. Don't get fooled by Arsenal's late run because CL spot aside it meant fuck all, (unless you consider getting 4th an achievement that is). The last thing Wenger wanted with Ferguson gone is the Special Fucker showing up at the other end of the city.
I loved the way the Grauniad online report that ARSEne "regretted" not having bought Bale from S'ton.
Like no other manager would be saying the same hindsight thing.
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Post by: Damo70 on June 04, 2013, 05:05:07 PM
The lead story on SSN on the hour for the past couple of hours has been Jose Mourinho being at the Chelsea training ground today. 'Football manager in appearance at his club's training ground shock'!
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Post by: cdbullyweefan on June 04, 2013, 05:45:53 PM
In all of it, the one club that should benefit and get their act together with 4-5 top signings is Arsenal. Best chance in 10 years for them to dominate the table.

Worth a punt at 12/1 I reckon.

I'm having some of that

If you both want to throw away your money I'm more than happy to take it from you.
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Post by: Toronto Villa on June 04, 2013, 05:49:35 PM
I think you're wasting your money. Even if Arsenal do get the players they need, now that Mourinho is back in town, he'll just lay down a voyeur comment or something equally as annoying and it will completely derail Wenger/Arsenal. Arsenal played well in the end to get back into the CL spots, but had they been involved in the title race Ferguson would have taken him apart mentally. Don't get fooled by Arsenal's late run because CL spot aside it meant fuck all, (unless you consider getting 4th an achievement that is). The last thing Wenger wanted with Ferguson gone is the Special Fucker showing up at the other end of the city.
I loved the way the Grauniad online report that ARSEne "regretted" not having bought Bale from S'ton.
Like no other manager would be saying the same hindsight thing.

I understand from my sources that John Gregory regrets not having spotted Lionel Messi playing for Newell's Old Boys back when he was our manager.
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Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on June 04, 2013, 05:53:40 PM
I am bored of Mourinho again already. Madrid has made him a very cynical and bitter coach. Not good that he is back and it will end in tears.

He's always been bitter and twisted, only you don't see it often as he only does it when he loses. He's like a spoilt child and I'll predict that now with Fergie no longer there to kiss up to, Mourinho will turn out to be the most hated manager in football.

It most certainly will end in tears. His.
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Post by: Damo70 on June 04, 2013, 06:00:51 PM
I think you're wasting your money. Even if Arsenal do get the players they need, now that Mourinho is back in town, he'll just lay down a voyeur comment or something equally as annoying and it will completely derail Wenger/Arsenal. Arsenal played well in the end to get back into the CL spots, but had they been involved in the title race Ferguson would have taken him apart mentally. Don't get fooled by Arsenal's late run because CL spot aside it meant fuck all, (unless you consider getting 4th an achievement that is). The last thing Wenger wanted with Ferguson gone is the Special Fucker showing up at the other end of the city.
I loved the way the Grauniad online report that ARSEne "regretted" not having bought Bale from S'ton.
Like no other manager would be saying the same hindsight thing.

I understand from my sources that John Gregory regrets not having spotted Lionel Messi playing for Newell's Old Boys back when he was our manager.

It was actually Doug who spotted him, but Gregory preferred Muzzy Izzet. Similar to the Brian Little/Roberto Carlos situation. Watching Villa then would have been literally like watching Brazil if stubborn managers had listened to our great former leader.
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Post by: KevinGage on June 04, 2013, 06:04:24 PM
I think you're wasting your money. Even if Arsenal do get the players they need, now that Mourinho is back in town, he'll just lay down a voyeur comment or something equally as annoying and it will completely derail Wenger/Arsenal. Arsenal played well in the end to get back into the CL spots, but had they been involved in the title race Ferguson would have taken him apart mentally. Don't get fooled by Arsenal's late run because CL spot aside it meant fuck all, (unless you consider getting 4th an achievement that is). The last thing Wenger wanted with Ferguson gone is the Special Fucker showing up at the other end of the city.
I loved the way the Grauniad online report that ARSEne "regretted" not having bought Bale from S'ton.
Like no other manager would be saying the same hindsight thing.

I understand from my sources that John Gregory regrets not having spotted Lionel Messi playing for Newell's Old Boys back when he was our manager.

You may joke,  but the Sunday Mercury ran a 500 word article last month about how Villa never approached Alex Ferguson when he was at Aberdeen.

Not that Herbert was advised to go for him, but didn't. Or that they had held preliminary discussions but decided to look elsewhere (which would have actually been a story).

No, this was Doug saying he knew about him, but he was never on our radar. As Herbert was sure Billy McNeill was the one.   :o    They even had a preview of it, on the front page.  As if it was some major scoop.


Brilliant.  In other news: there was no accident on Erdington Hight Street this afternoon, as a car didn't leave the road. Police aren't appealing for witnesses.
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Post by: Damo70 on June 04, 2013, 06:20:16 PM
Ferguson turned down Spurs when they were UEFA Cup holders in '84. I think United had 'kept in touch' with him for a while. BFR thinks the same. Makes you wonder if it was the same with Moyes. As for Billy McNeill, I think a lot of us would agree he was 'the one'. The one who took us down with a whimper and didn't even travel down to take training every day for a start.
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Post by: Toronto Villa on June 04, 2013, 07:11:08 PM
I think you're wasting your money. Even if Arsenal do get the players they need, now that Mourinho is back in town, he'll just lay down a voyeur comment or something equally as annoying and it will completely derail Wenger/Arsenal. Arsenal played well in the end to get back into the CL spots, but had they been involved in the title race Ferguson would have taken him apart mentally. Don't get fooled by Arsenal's late run because CL spot aside it meant fuck all, (unless you consider getting 4th an achievement that is). The last thing Wenger wanted with Ferguson gone is the Special Fucker showing up at the other end of the city.
I loved the way the Grauniad online report that ARSEne "regretted" not having bought Bale from S'ton.
Like no other manager would be saying the same hindsight thing.

I understand from my sources that John Gregory regrets not having spotted Lionel Messi playing for Newell's Old Boys back when he was our manager.

You may joke,  but the Sunday Mercury ran a 500 word article last month about how Villa never approached Alex Ferguson when he was at Aberdeen.

Not that Herbert was advised to go for him, but didn't. Or that they had held preliminary discussions but decided to look elsewhere (which would have actually been a story).

No, this was Doug saying he knew about him, but he was never on our radar. As Herbert was sure Billy McNeill was the one.   :o    They even had a preview of it, on the front page.  As if it was some major scoop.


Brilliant.  In other news: there was no accident on Erdington Hight Street this afternoon, as a car didn't leave the road. Police aren't appealing for witnesses.

I mean why would you want a manager that took a small Scottish club to a European triumph and properly threatened the big two? Nah, go for a manager who will go down in history as having managed two relegated teams in the same season. That sir, is proper talent spotting.
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Post by: VillaAlways on June 04, 2013, 07:23:46 PM
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Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: olaftab on June 04, 2013, 08:31:41 PM
ITV weather girls have form. I've told the story about Sian `Thumbs Up' Lloyd. And last week the Granada weather girl was bending my ear about her love affair with Bill Roche. All I could think about was a nature documentary about the mating habits of giant tortoises
I am surprised that the  the love of your life has not gone thru them like  sharks sucking up blood!
By the way I remember seeing the Bill Roche girl on Central many years ago or was that a nightmare?
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Post by: cheltenhamlion on June 04, 2013, 08:34:25 PM
I never did get that date you promised with her of the large phone bill.
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Post by: Somniloquism on June 05, 2013, 01:04:12 AM
I feel sorry* for Moyes in all this. Considering a lot of Man United's fans wanted Mourinho and then got someone they didn't want in Moyes, the impossible task of following Ferguson just got a bit more impossible. I suppose it could deflect the spotlight off Moyes for a while and help, but if United start badly and Chelsea don't then the knives will be out for him. Fergie retirement re-think by January i reckon.


*well as sorry as anyone who wants to see Man United  get relegated can manage*

I can see Fergie suddenly popping up in the dug out if there is sniff of another European Cup so he can claim he has won three.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Somniloquism on June 05, 2013, 01:15:44 AM
Whelan has just been on R5. He is horribly in love with himself. Why hasn't anyone asked him about the compensation?

He said he wouldn't ever stand in Martinez's way to go to a 'massive club' but as soon as it looks likely he immediatley changes tack and wants compensation.  And mark chapman virtually disappeared up his ass whilst talking to him.


Everton 20/1 to go down For a manager who has a G/D of -109 throughout his career (including Div One its got to be worth a punt.

For a manager who was supposedly so great before he won the cup, he was out performed by both Paul Jewell and Steve Bruce in the league. And the former could easily have won their first top flight silverware but he actually had to play a team from Manchester who could be arsed at Wembley and was not rife with behind the scenes issues.
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Post by: rob_bridge on June 05, 2013, 09:37:07 AM
Ferguson turned down Spurs when they were UEFA Cup holders in '84. I think United had 'kept in touch' with him for a while. BFR thinks the same. Makes you wonder if it was the same with Moyes. As for Billy McNeill, I think a lot of us would agree he was 'the one'. The one who took us down with a whimper and didn't even travel down to take training every day for a start.

Billy McNeill - wait till he dies and the Media - Celtic fawning. We will feel like lone voices in the desert trying to explain to people how he wasn't all great. Bit like Saints fans and Redknapp - they never get asked their opinion of him by the media fawners.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: VillaAlways on June 05, 2013, 02:32:43 PM
Martinez confirmed manager of Everton on a four year deal.
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Post by: Nev on June 05, 2013, 02:33:07 PM
E v e r t o n have called a 4pm press conference to unveil the new manager.

Here's some fun, who was the last manager to take a Premier League team down and leave that team to join a team still in the Premier League?

Answers on a Russ Abbott "c u Jimmy" wig to:

"Big 'Eck Competiton"
London
W12  8QT
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Post by: damon loves JT on June 05, 2013, 02:35:30 PM
They should hold the press conference at the DW stadium
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Post by: eastie on June 05, 2013, 02:53:39 PM
Martinez confirmed manager of Everton on a four year deal.

Good news for us , bad news for everton in my view.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Clampy on June 05, 2013, 02:57:12 PM
I reckon Whelan is hiding behind a tree in Stanley Park in a cunning plan to 'just so happen' to walk past the leaving media at Goodison.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on June 05, 2013, 03:01:32 PM
I reckon Whelan is hiding behind a tree in Stanley Park in a cunning plan to 'just so happen' to walk past the leaving media at Goodison.

**snigger**
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on June 05, 2013, 03:01:39 PM
I reckon Whelan is hiding behind a tree in Stanley Park in a cunning plan to 'just so happen' to walk past the leaving media at Goodison.

Or in a pew at the church in the corner :)
One work colleague made me smile today - hes an everton fan and claimed Martinez will have a £25m kitty and could bid for benteke - quite funny really !
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Post by: eastie on June 05, 2013, 03:12:05 PM
Uncle harry says he will only stay at qpr if hes given the backing to bring in the players he needs , already stated he wants Wayne bridge as left back.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Meanwood Villa on June 05, 2013, 03:33:26 PM
Uncle harry says he will only stay at qpr if hes given the backing to bring in the players he needs , already stated he wants Wayne bridge as left back.

Like he did in January you mean? Oh sorry, that was too late and wasn't enough. I keep on forgetting that nothing is ever Harry's fault
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: VillaAlways on June 05, 2013, 03:35:10 PM
Uncle harry says he will only stay at qpr if hes given the backing to bring in the players he needs , already stated he wants Wayne bridge as left back.
Just watched that.I can see him walking out and leaving QPR in the shit at the first opportunity.
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Post by: danlanza on June 05, 2013, 03:42:03 PM
Uncle harry says he will only stay at qpr if hes given the backing to bring in the players he needs , already stated he wants Wayne bridge as left back.
Just watched that.I can see him walking out and leaving QPR in the shit at the first opportunity.
Harry to Wigan. That would be funny.
Seriously, who to manage Wigan now ?
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Post by: damon loves JT on June 05, 2013, 03:44:58 PM
Jupp Heynckes?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Toronto Villa on June 05, 2013, 03:47:15 PM
Jupp Heynckes?

get real, not good enough for Whelan mate. C'mon now you're better than that. What's old Jupp ever won?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: MoetVillan on June 05, 2013, 03:50:14 PM
Whelan has come out and said they have had exactly 30 offers, so plenty to choose from.  I listened to a piece the other night on Radio 5 which said you shouldnt really be taking much notice of who is sending the CV in, you should be going after who you want.  I think Poyet may be a good shout as he would be backed by Whelan, and seems to have got himself in some shit at Brighton (Insert shit joke here).  I found it bizarre that Whelan said he would be happy for any of his players to go to Everton if Martinez wants them.  I understand he wants to offload some wages, but the player Roberto will be after are the ones that could get him back up.  Everton to finish below Villa next season, so things are starting to get back on track
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Post by: not3bad on June 05, 2013, 03:54:15 PM
One work colleague made me smile today - hes an everton fan and claimed Martinez will have a £25m kitty and could bid for benteke

He's only intending to buy the one player then?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on June 05, 2013, 04:20:20 PM
One work colleague made me smile today - hes an everton fan and claimed Martinez will have a £25m kitty and could bid for benteke

He's only intending to buy the one player then?

The thought that he seriously believed benteke would go to everton was quite something.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Toronto Villa on June 05, 2013, 04:22:54 PM
One work colleague made me smile today - hes an everton fan and claimed Martinez will have a £25m kitty and could bid for benteke

He's only intending to buy the one player then?

In a Falcao kind of way £25m only gets you 2/3 ownership of Mr Benteke
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Post by: richl on June 05, 2013, 04:34:58 PM
And now Martinez has promised Everton Champions league football.
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Post by: Irish villain on June 05, 2013, 04:38:00 PM
And now Martinez has promised Everton Champions league football.

I don't think so Roberto.
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Post by: Bren'd on June 05, 2013, 04:43:39 PM
He's promised that has he?  Whelan's hype is actually getting to him.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: not3bad on June 05, 2013, 05:10:00 PM
He's promised that has he?  Whelan's hype is actually getting to him.

Or maybe it's something to do with being an ex-boss of Swansea.  Brendan Rogers seems to be equally deluded.
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Post by: eastie on June 05, 2013, 05:19:45 PM
Kenwright will give him some cash to spend - looks like bill will be back behind the bar at the rovers return scraping some coffers together.
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Post by: john e on June 05, 2013, 06:08:21 PM
Martinez confirmed manager of Everton on a four year deal.

Good news for us , bad news for everton in my view.


your views on managers arnt that great, you wanted Lambert sacked in January because he didn't have a clue,
of all the realistic choices Everton have, they have decided well in my view, a young manager who is well known for playing attractive football, has won the FA cup, and is now given a bigger opportunity to prove he can do it at a higher level,
 he also commands himself extremely well on and of the pitch and has a touch of class to boot

don't think they could have got a better man in my opinion
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: PGW on June 05, 2013, 06:11:26 PM
Kenwright will give him some cash to spend - looks like bill will be back behind the bar at the rovers return scraping some coffers together.
Sorry gonna have to find another bar Rovers burnt down!!!!
It hasn't risen like a Phoenox has it?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Toronto Villa on June 05, 2013, 06:12:00 PM
Martinez confirmed manager of Everton on a four year deal.

Good news for us , bad news for everton in my view.


your views on managers arnt that great, you wanted Lambert sacked in January because he didn't have a clue,
of all the realistic choices Everton have, they have decided well in my view, a young manager who is well known for playing attractive football, has won the FA cup, and is now given a bigger opportunity to prove he can do it at a higher level,
 he also commands himself extremely well on and of the pitch and has a touch of class to boot

don't think they could have got a better man in my opinion

You're right John. I'd have been very happy with Martinez had he said yes when we wanted to talk to him. He always comes across as a very competent and classy individual. He'll try and play football the proper way and he'll have a much better defence than anything he's had before at Wigan or Swansea. Everton will have a period of transition and change and they will lose a player or two along the way. But he's  good choice and he'll be very loyal to them as I believe Lambert will be to us.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: cheltenhamlion on June 05, 2013, 07:26:48 PM
Big test for Martinez though. Can he get them close to what Moyes regularly achieved? I doubt it. And, knowing their fans, they will moan like buggery about it.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: junxs on June 05, 2013, 08:22:54 PM
LOL Martinez!
Most over rated manager of all time.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Matt C on June 05, 2013, 08:44:09 PM
I'm sure Kenwright will give him some cash to spend.

When he's sold Fellani.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: TopDeck113 on June 05, 2013, 08:52:20 PM
Martinez walks through the doors at Goodison and promises Champion's League qualification next season...
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Villa in Denmark on June 05, 2013, 09:21:08 PM
BT (Danish equivalent of The Sun) have picked up an interview with Madrid president Florentino Perez where it sounds like he's floating the idea of Zidane as Mourinho's replacement. Now we know why Roberto had to settle for Everton :)
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: olaftab on June 05, 2013, 09:39:58 PM
Just head on SSN that Jose is back at Stamford Bridge...gosh how did they keep that secret?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: SoccerHQ on June 05, 2013, 10:53:38 PM
I like Weberto.

But very difficult to follow Moyes as Everton have overachieved for years imo.

Defence won't be as tight and they'll be inconsistent in performances as Wigan were so 9th or 10th I think.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Ads on June 06, 2013, 08:52:10 AM
I like Weberto.

But very difficult to follow Moyes as Everton have overachieved for years imo.

Defence won't be as tight and they'll be inconsistent in performances as Wigan were so 9th or 10th I think.

I think Baines will follow Moyes to Yanited as well. I can see Sideshow Bob sticking around though.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Bren'd on June 06, 2013, 09:14:04 AM
I like Weberto.

But very difficult to follow Moyes as Everton have overachieved for years imo.

Defence won't be as tight and they'll be inconsistent in performances as Wigan were so 9th or 10th I think.

I think Baines will follow Moyes to Yanited as well. I can see Sideshow Bob sticking around though.

But Sideshow Bob plays for Chelsea?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: not3bad on June 06, 2013, 09:25:09 AM
I predict Martinez will do at least as well as Moyes at Everton, provided they are patient for the first season or so.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Ads on June 06, 2013, 09:51:23 AM
I like Weberto.

But very difficult to follow Moyes as Everton have overachieved for years imo.

Defence won't be as tight and they'll be inconsistent in performances as Wigan were so 9th or 10th I think.

I think Baines will follow Moyes to Yanited as well. I can see Sideshow Bob sticking around though.

But Sideshow Bob plays for Chelsea?

No, he's Cecil.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Villa in Denmark on June 06, 2013, 10:33:14 AM
Rumour over here that Laudrup is about to walk away from Swansea after falling out without Huw Jenkins (Swansea chairman) as it looks like Swansea have changed their mind about transfer budget.

As a side show Laudrup is now embroiled in a tax case with the Dutch authorities that dates back to when he signed for Ajax in 1997.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: LeeB on June 06, 2013, 11:04:22 AM
Rumour over here that Laudrup is about to walk away from Swansea after falling out without Huw Jenkins (Swansea chairman) as it looks like Swansea have changed their mind about transfer budget.

As a side show Laudrup is now embroiled in a tax case with the Dutch authorities that dates back to when he signed for Ajax in 1997.

The two related maybe? Someone need a signing on fee?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: damon loves JT on June 06, 2013, 11:41:38 AM
Oh very astute. Like Andy Gray and his failed nightclub venture all those years ago.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Toronto Villa on June 06, 2013, 01:42:44 PM
Rumour over here that Laudrup is about to walk away from Swansea after falling out without Huw Jenkins (Swansea chairman) as it looks like Swansea have changed their mind about transfer budget.

As a side show Laudrup is now embroiled in a tax case with the Dutch authorities that dates back to when he signed for Ajax in 1997.

what Laudrup won't be getting the £200m he feels he needs at Swansea?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: garyshawsknee on June 06, 2013, 01:47:27 PM
He walked out on Mallorca for something similar,though I think he was messed around by their owner.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: KevinGage on June 06, 2013, 01:47:52 PM
Martinez confirmed manager of Everton on a four year deal.

Good news for us , bad news for everton in my view.


your views on managers arnt that great, you wanted Lambert sacked in January because he didn't have a clue,
of all the realistic choices Everton have, they have decided well in my view, a young manager who is well known for playing attractive football, has won the FA cup, and is now given a bigger opportunity to prove he can do it at a higher level,
 he also commands himself extremely well on and of the pitch and has a touch of class to boot

don't think they could have got a better man in my opinion

I wouldn't have been against the idea of him as Villa manager either last year or the year previous.  Not because I thought his appointment would ensure a return to the good times, or even a return to regular top 6 finishes.  More so because by the time he left, it's very likely he would have left a squad of players who could at least trap a ball.  Unlike the dross left by previous managers.

But in all the time he was at Wigan he couldn't make them even close to competent defensively.  He had long enough there to rectify the situation.  Ultimately you can't get away with that in the top flight, and I don't think he'll get away with it at Everton.  They might not go down next year, but if Baines and Fellaini depart, they could struggle.   Hopefully.  Their fans are - for the most part- a horrid bunch.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Ads on June 06, 2013, 01:53:11 PM
The -109 goal difference tells its own story.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: fbriai on June 06, 2013, 02:07:20 PM
I'm still not convinced by Martinez. We'll see what he does at Everton, but he will do well to keep them at the level they were at under Moyes. It's certainly a big risk on their part.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: tomd2103 on June 06, 2013, 02:20:32 PM
I'm still not convinced by Martinez. We'll see what he does at Everton, but he will do well to keep them at the level they were at under Moyes. It's certainly a big risk on their part.

I think it is a big risk on his part as well, as that is going to a tough job for him.  I think he would have been better off looking at a job in Spain at this point.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: fbriai on June 06, 2013, 02:24:08 PM
I'm still not convinced by Martinez. We'll see what he does at Everton, but he will do well to keep them at the level they were at under Moyes. It's certainly a big risk on their part.

I think it is a big risk on his part as well, as that is going to a tough job for him.  I think he would have been better off looking at a job in Spain at this point.

'Tis a good point, Tom.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: fbriai on June 06, 2013, 02:28:12 PM
I see 'Arry is threatening to do one unless the board let him spend a fortune. I wouldn't be surprised if he isn't there come August.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: damon loves JT on June 06, 2013, 02:42:41 PM
It's the easiest way to get out of a sinking ship while pretending it wasn't him who put all the holes in it
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: paulcomben on June 06, 2013, 03:06:57 PM
Stuart Pearce is all moany today. Suspect he may not be England U21 manager for much longer.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: fbriai on June 06, 2013, 03:09:45 PM
Stuart Pearce is all moany today. Suspect he may not be England U21 manager for much longer.

That's his default setting, isn't it?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: ozzjim on June 07, 2013, 07:15:15 AM
How on earth he got that gig is beyond me. We need someone who has tactical nouse and a bit of idea about how to work with young players. Not the pleb Pearce.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Meanwood Villa on June 07, 2013, 07:49:03 AM
How on earth he got that gig is beyond me. We need someone who has tactical nouse and a bit of idea about how to work with young players. Not the pleb Pearce.

England "legend" isn't he. Wasn't there some vague notion when he was on Capello's backroom staff that he may take over as national team manager one day? That doesn't seem likely now although a couple of decent results in the next two matches and a heroic penalty defeat should see him right for the next U21 tournament at least.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: sid1964 on June 07, 2013, 08:31:59 AM
Kendrick says that the Bellhanda deal is not going to happen!

Personally no surprise for me.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Irish villain on June 07, 2013, 12:29:47 PM
Rumour over here that Laudrup is about to walk away from Swansea after falling out without Huw Jenkins (Swansea chairman) as it looks like Swansea have changed their mind about transfer budget.

As a side show Laudrup is now embroiled in a tax case with the Dutch authorities that dates back to when he signed for Ajax in 1997.

what Laudrup won't be getting the £200m he feels he needs at Swansea?

Change there would be good for ourselves.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: danlanza on June 07, 2013, 12:32:29 PM
Kendrick says that the Bellhanda deal is not going to happen!

Personally no surprise for me.
Why not ? No surprise to me either by the way.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: fbriai on June 07, 2013, 02:45:30 PM
Laudrup's either calming things down or stirring things up, depending on who you believe. The same direct quotes produce this headline on the Beeb:  Michael Laudrup: Swansea City manager intending to stay (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22816713) and this headline on the Daily Heil: Laudrup lays into Swansea chiefs in transfer row as boss heads for exit (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2337360/Michael-Laudrup-criticises-Swansea-board-transfers.html).

Quote from: From the BBC article
"I have always said that my intention was, and is, to stay," Laudrup said.

"I think all the speculation regarding my future is due to the fact that there hasn't been any good news since we played our last game three weeks ago."
...
But Laudrup, who succeeded Brendan Rodgers in June 2012, says he thinks a lack of activity has resulted in the rumours about his future.

"We all need some good news," Laudrup told the South Wales Evening Post.

"I had hoped for some signings at this stage but I think this is a question to ask to the chairman and the board.

"They have all the names of the possible players for our team and all the players, except one, are in Swansea's level when we talk about transfer and salary.

"It is almost three weeks since we played the last game and everyone is looking forward to receiving some news regarding new players.

"Instead people can read in different papers and media that there are bigger and bigger problems with me, the chairman, the board, my agent or players who will not join Swansea because they are not sure that I will stay."

The difference in the headings is probably better understood in light of this article:  Swans bombshell! Laudrup on the brink of leaving the Liberty over transfer fallout with chief Jenkins (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2336816/Michael-Laudrup-leave-Swansea-City-transfer-fallout-Huw-Jenkins--EXCLUSIVE.html), which contains the following lines:

Quote
The stark developments will come as no surprise to the Swansea hierarchy, who are believed to have held an informal meeting last Friday to discuss the escalating situation.

There is a feeling within the club that the Laudrup camp could be trying to engineer a situation whereby he is allowed to join another club without the third party having to honour a £10million compensation clause that was inserted into the contract extension he signed in March.

But his representative, Bayram Tutumlu, has repeatedly stressed that Laudrup's preference is to stay at Swansea. And Jenkins felt moved to ease the concerns over the Dane's future later on Thursday.

Anyone else get the feeling he's had his head turned?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: damon loves JT on June 07, 2013, 02:57:46 PM
Sounds to me like he's telling his chairman to pull his finger out.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Villa in Denmark on June 07, 2013, 10:03:33 PM
According to the press here this morning, it's about a lack of progress (or even attempting to do anything) with various transfer targets, primarily because they will blow the salary structure apart.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: damon loves JT on June 08, 2013, 11:08:30 AM
That's the price of success I suppose. The cost of everything goes up. I would be surprised if laudrup is there much longer if he's telling his board exactly who he wants and they don't do anything about it.

They probably feel that if they can stay in the premier league another season without spending much money, they can make a tidy profit.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Damo70 on June 08, 2013, 11:48:56 AM
Tony Fernandes was suggesting yesterday that having been stung in the past he wanted to start making new signings wages heavily based on appearances. I would think that would severely hamper Redknapp's  transfer options. I admire Fernandes idea, but I don't think it is practical. Not a good sign when Redknapp publicly stated he wants Bridge on Thursday and he signs for Reading on Friday I wouldn't have thought.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: OCD on June 08, 2013, 01:43:23 PM
Can't be long before Redknapp spits his dummy out of the pram and resigns citing an unsupportive owner. That will probably lead to the press kissing his arse and linking him to every top job that becomes available and claiming that he's clearly the best candidate.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on June 08, 2013, 01:49:43 PM
Can't be long before Redknapp spits his dummy out of the pram and resigns citing an unsupportive owner. That will probably lead to the press kissing his arse and linking him to every top job that becomes available and claiming that he's clearly the best candidate.

Cant see what other jobs would be available in England this summer , maybe his best chance is to hope west ham get off to a stinker.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Clampy on June 08, 2013, 01:50:50 PM
I said a while back i did'nt think he'd stay there. He's got too big an ego to manage in the Championship although as Damon said the other day, he might end up at Brighton seeing as it's down on the coast, which would soften the blow for him a bit.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on June 08, 2013, 02:00:55 PM
I said a while back i did'nt think he'd stay there. He's got too big an ego to manage in the Championship although as Damon said the other day, he might end up at Brighton seeing as it's down on the coast, which would soften the blow for him a bit.

I can't see him going to another championship team, he's not short of a few bob and could afford to wait until a premier job became available - Fulham or west ham maybe?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: paulcomben on June 08, 2013, 02:23:27 PM
Roberto Martinez is on SSN now being interviewed in Wigan at a new public sports centre built by Dave Whelan. Not sure I would be happy to see that, if I supported Everton.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Monty on June 08, 2013, 02:42:34 PM
Roberto Martinez is on SSN now being interviewed in Wigan at a new public sports centre built by Dave Whelan. Not sure I would be happy to see that, if I supported Everton.

I wouldn't care, it's not like Wigan are a threat to Everton in terms of taking the manager.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 08, 2013, 02:47:46 PM
Roberto Martinez is on SSN now being interviewed in Wigan at a new public sports centre built by Dave Whelan. Not sure I would be happy to see that, if I supported Everton.

Why ever not? It's something he probably agreed to do months ago and it's not going to affect his work one iota.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Irish villain on June 08, 2013, 03:42:03 PM
Roberto Martinez is on SSN now being interviewed in Wigan at a new public sports centre built by Dave Whelan. Not sure I would be happy to see that, if I supported Everton.

Why ever not? It's something he probably agreed to do months ago and it's not going to affect his work one iota.

Besides, he's just biding his time 'til Wigan are back in the Premier League. After all, they are a bigger club than Everton so everybody at Goodison should be bracing themselves for the day the big time once again beckons for young Roberto.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: OCD on June 08, 2013, 04:02:14 PM
He might have had an involvement in the project too for all we know.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: paulcomben on June 08, 2013, 06:28:09 PM
Roberto Martinez is on SSN now being interviewed in Wigan at a new public sports centre built by Dave Whelan. Not sure I would be happy to see that, if I supported Everton.

Why ever not? It's something he probably agreed to do months ago and it's not going to affect his work one iota.


Yes. But it is like getting a new job then reporting to your old employer's office. Or leaving your wife for a richer mistress but visiting the family home the next night. Or buying a new car then going back to ask the dealer for one more drive in your old trade-in.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on June 08, 2013, 06:31:02 PM
Roberto Martinez is on SSN now being interviewed in Wigan at a new public sports centre built by Dave Whelan. Not sure I would be happy to see that, if I supported Everton.

Why ever not? It's something he probably agreed to do months ago and it's not going to affect his work one iota.


Yes. But it is like getting a new job then reporting to your old employer's office. Or leaving your wife for a richer mistress but visiting the family home the next night. Or buying a new car then going back to ask the dealer for one more drive in your old trade-in.

Or fulfilling a promise of a prior commitment - nothing wrong at all!
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 08, 2013, 06:36:23 PM
Roberto Martinez is on SSN now being interviewed in Wigan at a new public sports centre built by Dave Whelan. Not sure I would be happy to see that, if I supported Everton.

Why ever not? It's something he probably agreed to do months ago and it's not going to affect his work one iota.


Yes. But it is like getting a new job then reporting to your old employer's office. Or leaving your wife for a richer mistress but visiting the family home the next night. Or buying a new car then going back to ask the dealer for one more drive in your old trade-in.

No it isn't.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 08, 2013, 07:11:08 PM
Stuart Pearce is all moany today. Suspect he may not be England U21 manager for much longer.


John Fashanu tweeted tonight that Pearce is effectively like a PE teacher. Which struck me as about right.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: paulcomben on June 08, 2013, 07:21:38 PM
Stuart Pearce is all moany today. Suspect he may not be England U21 manager for much longer.


John Fashanu tweeted tonight that Pearce is effectively like a PE teacher. Which struck me as about right.


A PE teacher looking for a school, after that utterly humiliating garbage against Norway this evening. It'd be better if the clubs supported the national teams, though.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: paulcomben on June 08, 2013, 07:28:35 PM
Roberto Martinez is on SSN now being interviewed in Wigan at a new public sports centre built by Dave Whelan. Not sure I would be happy to see that, if I supported Everton.

Why ever not? It's something he probably agreed to do months ago and it's not going to affect his work one iota.


Yes. But it is like getting a new job then reporting to your old employer's office. Or leaving your wife for a richer mistress but visiting the family home the next night. Or buying a new car then going back to ask the dealer for one more drive in your old trade-in.

No it isn't.

The Piscean half of me wants to have the last word. But that is my wife. As a Libran, I'm off to the pub.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Big Dick Edwards on June 08, 2013, 07:52:01 PM
Stuart Pearce is all moany today. Suspect he may not be England U21 manager for much longer.


John Fashanu tweeted tonight that Pearce is effectively like a PE teacher. Which struck me as about right.


A PE teacher looking for a school, after that utterly humiliating garbage against Norway this evening. It'd be better if the clubs supported the national teams, though.

Pearce is on a hiding to nothing though. If he could pick our best players for the age group we'd have a very good side on paper. Look who he doesn't get to call on because the players at Champions League clubs go straight into the full England squad - Oxlade-Chamberlain, Gibbs, Wellbeck, Cleverley and Wilshere for starters.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 08, 2013, 07:59:29 PM
But the only one of those five players you name who isn't at best utterly, utterly average, is Wilshere.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Big Dick Edwards on June 08, 2013, 08:11:44 PM
But the only one of those five players you name who isn't at best utterly, utterly average, is Wilshere.

At that age level those players would significantly improve the side.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: ktvillan on June 08, 2013, 08:22:48 PM
Lack of availability doesn't help, but I don't think Pearce is the kind of coach England need for developing players and teams that can play with technique, keep possession and end up ready to slot into a senior squad that should have the same aims.   If England are to progress they need to be developing their approach at all levels, from the roots up, like France, Spain and Germany have all done.   Pearce strikes me as being from the old school, up and at em style of coaching.  Until the FA sort out the coaching within a logical structure, we'll never get anywhere at international level. 
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: OCD on June 08, 2013, 10:55:17 PM
Martin Tyler said in commentary that when a Spanish player didn't show up to one of the youth competitions they banned him from all football for 2 years before later reducing it to 6 months. No club in Spain has stopped a player attending the national side since. I wish our FA had the balls to stand up against the Premier League and it's teams in the national interest. The Spanish also don't care if a player has several senior caps, they will still make them go to tournaments for their age group to give them tournament experience - something which would be valuable to the development of our players.

It's very difficult to watch England and to see how technically inferior we are to most sides. I sincerely hope that things are being put right and that our younger players start coming through in greater numbers and with far greater technical ability.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Clampy on June 09, 2013, 08:39:54 AM
Until the FA sort out the coaching within a logical structure, we'll never get anywhere at international level. 

The F.A's main priority seems to be to make as much money as possible. Everything else seems to come second.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: SamTheMouse on June 09, 2013, 11:17:22 AM
The consensus seems to be that schoolboy-level football in the UK is mainly about being physically faster and tougher than the opposition and hoofing the ball into 'row Z' rather than concentrating on 'poncey skills'.

Those of you with direct experience, is that an unfair assessment?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Damo70 on June 09, 2013, 12:06:57 PM
Martin Tyler said in commentary that when a Spanish player didn't show up to one of the youth competitions they banned him from all football for 2 years before later reducing it to 6 months. No club in Spain has stopped a player attending the national side since. I wish our FA had the balls to stand up against the Premier League and it's teams in the national interest. The Spanish also don't care if a player has several senior caps, they will still make them go to tournaments for their age group to give them tournament experience - something which would be valuable to the development of our players.

It's very difficult to watch England and to see how technically inferior we are to most sides. I sincerely hope that things are being put right and that our younger players start coming through in greater numbers and with far greater technical ability.

Martin Tyler has been very vocal about the changes he believes need to come about in attitude and possibly even rules to back that up. I have got a lot of time for Tyler and he speaks with both passion and frustration on this clubs versus young national teams subject.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eamonn on June 09, 2013, 04:05:19 PM
Do you follow John Fashanu on Twitter? For his Villa "career", his treatment of his brother and his pseudo-celebrity (Gladiator/InTheJungle) bollocks, I would refuse to do so.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Des Little on June 09, 2013, 06:15:07 PM
Pearce is utterly clueless as a manager and I fully expect him to get the boot this week. Personally I'd get Hoddle in charge of the U21's and get them playing properly.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: SoccerHQ on June 09, 2013, 06:15:23 PM
The simple fact is England won 8 straight in qualifying including twice against Norway with the settled squad they have in this tournament.

I could excuse the defeat to Italy a bit as Zaha and Ince weren't playing but both were back yesterday.

Big problem for England is there is now a dearth of top level strikers knocking about if the best Pearce can come up with are Connor Wickham and the Fonz. Zaha and Ince are more wide forwards in the mould of Welbeck, Sturridge and Walcott.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: ktvillan on June 10, 2013, 08:49:41 AM
The consensus seems to be that schoolboy-level football in the UK is mainly about being physically faster and tougher than the opposition and hoofing the ball into 'row Z' rather than concentrating on 'poncey skills'.

Those of you with direct experience, is that an unfair assessment?

Twas ever thus.  As a lad I was more than skilful enough for the school team but was rarely considered due to my diminutive size.  The team was packed with tall powerful and often lumbering lads whom players like me would run rings round in our informal lunchtime games.  Some of them couldn't trap a bag of cement or pass it two yards, yet they were picked week in week out, because it was all about competing and winning rather than developing skilful players with technique.   It pissed me right off, and no doubt it still goes on today.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: LeeB on June 10, 2013, 04:53:03 PM
The consensus seems to be that schoolboy-level football in the UK is mainly about being physically faster and tougher than the opposition and hoofing the ball into 'row Z' rather than concentrating on 'poncey skills'.

Those of you with direct experience, is that an unfair assessment?

Twas ever thus.  As a lad I was more than skilful enough for the school team but was rarely considered due to my diminutive size.  The team was packed with tall powerful and often lumbering lads whom players like me would run rings round in our informal lunchtime games.  Some of them couldn't trap a bag of cement or pass it two yards, yet they were picked week in week out, because it was all about competing and winning rather than developing skilful players with technique.   It pissed me right off, and no doubt it still goes on today.


My heart used to sink walking past the kids games on a Sunday on the way to our pitch, tosspot parents screaming at the kids to 'get it forwards' and get stuck in.

They were 8 years old, and it put the fear of God into them.

Banning parents from the pitch would be a good start.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on June 10, 2013, 04:58:36 PM
Martin Tyler said in commentary that when a Spanish player didn't show up to one of the youth competitions they banned him from all football for 2 years before later reducing it to 6 months. No club in Spain has stopped a player attending the national side since. I wish our FA had the balls to stand up against the Premier League and it's teams in the national interest. The Spanish also don't care if a player has several senior caps, they will still make them go to tournaments for their age group to give them tournament experience - something which would be valuable to the development of our players.

It's very difficult to watch England and to see how technically inferior we are to most sides. I sincerely hope that things are being put right and that our younger players start coming through in greater numbers and with far greater technical ability.

Martin Tyler has been very vocal about the changes he believes need to come about in attitude and possibly even rules to back that up. I have got a lot of time for Tyler and he speaks with both passion and frustration on this clubs versus young national teams subject.

A commentator is just that. Like Alan Green. They're there to tell you what's happening on the pitch. Nothing else. Some I then need to remember this.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: LeeB on June 10, 2013, 05:04:50 PM
Martin Tyler said in commentary that when a Spanish player didn't show up to one of the youth competitions they banned him from all football for 2 years before later reducing it to 6 months. No club in Spain has stopped a player attending the national side since. I wish our FA had the balls to stand up against the Premier League and it's teams in the national interest. The Spanish also don't care if a player has several senior caps, they will still make them go to tournaments for their age group to give them tournament experience - something which would be valuable to the development of our players.

It's very difficult to watch England and to see how technically inferior we are to most sides. I sincerely hope that things are being put right and that our younger players start coming through in greater numbers and with far greater technical ability.

Martin Tyler has been very vocal about the changes he believes need to come about in attitude and possibly even rules to back that up. I have got a lot of time for Tyler and he speaks with both passion and frustration on this clubs versus young national teams subject.

A commentator is just that. Like Alan Green. They're there to tell you what's happening on the pitch. Nothing else. Some I then need to remember this.

To be fair to Tyler he's played the game at a fairly high standard, unlike Green who looks like a heart attack waiting to happen.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Small Rodent on June 10, 2013, 05:06:52 PM
The consensus seems to be that schoolboy-level football in the UK is mainly about being physically faster and tougher than the opposition and hoofing the ball into 'row Z' rather than concentrating on 'poncey skills'.

Those of you with direct experience, is that an unfair assessment?

Twas ever thus.  As a lad I was more than skilful enough for the school team but was rarely considered due to my diminutive size.  The team was packed with tall powerful and often lumbering lads whom players like me would run rings round in our informal lunchtime games.  Some of them couldn't trap a bag of cement or pass it two yards, yet they were picked week in week out, because it was all about competing and winning rather than developing skilful players with technique.   It pissed me right off, and no doubt it still goes on today.


My heart used to sink walking past the kids games on a Sunday on the way to our pitch, tosspot parents screaming at the kids to 'get it forwards' and get stuck in.

They were 8 years old, and it put the fear of God into them.

Banning parents from the pitch would be a good start.


I read that Dutch Academies ban parents who shout to the kids, because the kids should listen only to the coach.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Damo70 on June 10, 2013, 05:09:26 PM
Martin Tyler said in commentary that when a Spanish player didn't show up to one of the youth competitions they banned him from all football for 2 years before later reducing it to 6 months. No club in Spain has stopped a player attending the national side since. I wish our FA had the balls to stand up against the Premier League and it's teams in the national interest. The Spanish also don't care if a player has several senior caps, they will still make them go to tournaments for their age group to give them tournament experience - something which would be valuable to the development of our players.

It's very difficult to watch England and to see how technically inferior we are to most sides. I sincerely hope that things are being put right and that our younger players start coming through in greater numbers and with far greater technical ability.

Martin Tyler has been very vocal about the changes he believes need to come about in attitude and possibly even rules to back that up. I have got a lot of time for Tyler and he speaks with both passion and frustration on this clubs versus young national teams subject.

A commentator is just that. Like Alan Green. They're there to tell you what's happening on the pitch. Nothing else. Some I then need to remember this.

I would never compare Green to Tyler. One loves the sound of his own voice and his opinions which don't always stand up to scrutiny. The other has been the best British commentator for thirty odd years and has a balance of not being bland or sensational. He also puts his point in a very intelligent and balanced way. As for Des' comments on Hoddle, every player who has played under him seems to rave about his coaching and tactical ability, but criticise his man management. I would like to think there is some way to get him involved with another coach who can cover up for his apparent shortcomings.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: ktvillan on June 10, 2013, 05:16:42 PM

I read that Dutch Academies ban parents who shout to the kids, because the kids should listen only to the coach.

All very well as long as coaches actually know what they are talking about, which they seem to do in Holland.   Not sure many so-called coaches in this country know any more than the average gobby parent.  Decent call on Hoddle though, he does at least seem to know something about technique and tactics.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: john e on June 10, 2013, 06:35:42 PM
The consensus seems to be that schoolboy-level football in the UK is mainly about being physically faster and tougher than the opposition and hoofing the ball into 'row Z' rather than concentrating on 'poncey skills'.

Those of you with direct experience, is that an unfair assessment?

Twas ever thus.  As a lad I was more than skilful enough for the school team but was rarely considered due to my diminutive size.  The team was packed with tall powerful and often lumbering lads whom players like me would run rings round in our informal lunchtime games.  Some of them couldn't trap a bag of cement or pass it two yards, yet they were picked week in week out, because it was all about competing and winning rather than developing skilful players with technique.   It pissed me right off, and no doubt it still goes on today.


My heart used to sink walking past the kids games on a Sunday on the way to our pitch, tosspot parents screaming at the kids to 'get it forwards' and get stuck in.

They were 8 years old, and it put the fear of God into them.

Banning parents from the pitch would be a good start.


I read that Dutch Academies ban parents who shout to the kids, because the kids should listen only to the coach.


They do that in our academies to, and a lot of boys football clubs where the coach stipulates no shouting or coaching from the sidelines

I remember thinking I would never be like that when my lad started playing at 7 , unfortunately I can't say I succeeded, we were year after year in a title battle with one particular local team and it all became very intense,
 all the bad things people are saying on this thread were happening, the whole thing got so important to me it became more important than the Villa, and I'm sadly not even joking
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Chris Jameson on June 10, 2013, 07:14:52 PM
I haven't watched my son play this season until a couple of weeks ago, had enough of hearing shouty blokes shouting at little boys playing football, it's depressing.

Friend of my son's is a brilliant little player, he runs rings round players and was snapped up by Leeds United. At the age of 9 they let him go because he was 'too small'.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: SheffieldVillain on June 10, 2013, 08:05:15 PM
I used to coach an Under 7s team affiliated to (not part of their academy, but just a community side in a local league) an at-the-time Premier League team. I was told at the end of the season that I would have to get rid of two (6-year-old) players as 'they were never going to be good enough'. I decided that it was probably me that needed to leave.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: LeeB on June 10, 2013, 09:00:19 PM
The consensus seems to be that schoolboy-level football in the UK is mainly about being physically faster and tougher than the opposition and hoofing the ball into 'row Z' rather than concentrating on 'poncey skills'.

Those of you with direct experience, is that an unfair assessment?

Twas ever thus.  As a lad I was more than skilful enough for the school team but was rarely considered due to my diminutive size.  The team was packed with tall powerful and often lumbering lads whom players like me would run rings round in our informal lunchtime games.  Some of them couldn't trap a bag of cement or pass it two yards, yet they were picked week in week out, because it was all about competing and winning rather than developing skilful players with technique.   It pissed me right off, and no doubt it still goes on today.


My heart used to sink walking past the kids games on a Sunday on the way to our pitch, tosspot parents screaming at the kids to 'get it forwards' and get stuck in.

They were 8 years old, and it put the fear of God into them.

Banning parents from the pitch would be a good start.


I read that Dutch Academies ban parents who shout to the kids, because the kids should listen only to the coach.


They do that in our academies to, and a lot of boys football clubs where the coach stipulates no shouting or coaching from the sidelines

I remember thinking I would never be like that when my lad started playing at 7 , unfortunately I can't say I succeeded, we were year after year in a title battle with one particular local team and it all became very intense,
 all the bad things people are saying on this thread were happening, the whole thing got so important to me it became more important than the Villa, and I'm sadly not even joking

Our kid's the same John, and I'm always on at him about it.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: rob_bridge on June 11, 2013, 08:41:38 AM
I used to coach an Under 7s team affiliated to (not part of their academy, but just a community side in a local league) an at-the-time Premier League team. I was told at the end of the season that I would have to get rid of two (6-year-old) players as 'they were never going to be good enough'. I decided that it was probably me that needed to leave.

Fuppin H Christ that is shitely depressing.

Fair play for bombing out on them - then again probably replaced you with someone who got rid of the ne'er do well 6 year olds.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: SheffieldVillain on June 12, 2013, 01:33:09 AM
I used to coach an Under 7s team affiliated to (not part of their academy, but just a community side in a local league) an at-the-time Premier League team. I was told at the end of the season that I would have to get rid of two (6-year-old) players as 'they were never going to be good enough'. I decided that it was probably me that needed to leave.

Fuppin H Christ that is shitely depressing.

Fair play for bombing out on them - then again probably replaced you with someone who got rid of the ne'er do well 6 year olds.

Almost certainly.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: villa kicks on June 12, 2013, 08:09:10 AM
David weir take over in sheffield united he's not flexible enough to manage Wednesday. Good luck to him - potential for another great Scottish manager. 
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: paulcomben on June 12, 2013, 08:40:01 PM
More rumours that Laudrup is edging out of Swansea over transfer disagreements.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 12, 2013, 08:46:09 PM
More rumours that Laudrup is edging out of Swansea over transfer disagreements.

If it is true that Laudrup's agent wants to control the club's transfer policy, and Laudrup insists on it too, then they're doing entirely the right thing getting shot of him.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: peter w on June 12, 2013, 08:47:42 PM
Why is this still in the Villa discussion forum?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 12, 2013, 08:57:05 PM
Why is this still in the Villa discussion forum?

We moved this and the other clubs transfers threads into HD for the close-season. Basically, lots of people are interested in it, and there's otherwise not really that much going on Villa-wise.

We'll shift them back out after.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: peter w on June 12, 2013, 09:44:05 PM
Fair do's.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: jonzy85 on June 13, 2013, 10:09:17 AM
Good to see Harry isn't bitter... http://www.football365.com/news/21554/8773128/-Arry-Sticks-The-Boot-In

It is priceless for a man who signed Peter Crouch 3 times and  tried a 4th, to complain about hoofing the ball upfield.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Ads on June 13, 2013, 10:11:28 AM
He is right though. The football England play is awful and has been for a long time.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: VILLA MOLE on June 13, 2013, 10:12:11 AM
in fairness Crouch was better on the floor than he was up top.   However how much has Harrys  stock fallen in 12 months ? ???
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on June 13, 2013, 10:14:36 AM
in fairness Crouch was better on the floor than he was up top.   However how much has Harrys  stock fallen in 12 months ? ???
Indeed, crest of a wave , flying high at spurs , hot fave for the England job and now sacked and relegated and preparing to face Yeovil and Doncaster.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: VILLA MOLE on June 13, 2013, 10:18:35 AM
in fairness Crouch was better on the floor than he was up top.   However how much has Harrys  stock fallen in 12 months ? ???
Indeed, crest of a wave , flying high at spurs , hot fave for the England job and now sacked and relegated and preparing to face Yeovil and Doncaster.

Almost feel sorry for him , I will get my coat
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Villa in Denmark on June 13, 2013, 11:53:30 AM
Rumours in L'Equipe that Laudrup has been approached to coach PSG for 1 year until they can get their hands on Wenger!

I didn't realise Laudrup has lasted more than 12 months in any of his last 3 jobs due to disagreements with the board / chairman about transfer policy.

Probably fair enough at Mallorca where he performed a miracle to keep them up with essentially reserves and youth after the "stars" were sold to cover debts, then got told than all of the players he'd  brought through who could be sold would be sold again.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: fredm on June 13, 2013, 11:59:04 AM
Good to see Harry isn't bitter... http://www.football365.com/news/21554/8773128/-Arry-Sticks-The-Boot-In

It is priceless for a man who signed Peter Crouch 3 times and  tried a 4th, to complain about hoofing the ball upfield.

Harry realising he is now managing in the backwaters and wants to keep his profile up so that if England fail to qualify he can come to the rescue on his white charger. The saviour of England!!!!
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Jarpie on June 13, 2013, 12:44:05 PM
Good to see Harry isn't bitter... http://www.football365.com/news/21554/8773128/-Arry-Sticks-The-Boot-In

It is priceless for a man who signed Peter Crouch 3 times and  tried a 4th, to complain about hoofing the ball upfield.

Harry realising he is now managing in the backwaters and wants to keep his profile up so that if England fail to qualify he can come to the rescue on his white charger. The saviour of England!!!!

I bet he has Queen's Flash on repeat :D
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: OCD on June 13, 2013, 01:42:27 PM
Good to see Harry isn't bitter... http://www.football365.com/news/21554/8773128/-Arry-Sticks-The-Boot-In

It is priceless for a man who signed Peter Crouch 3 times and  tried a 4th, to complain about hoofing the ball upfield.

Harry realising he is now managing in the backwaters and wants to keep his profile up so that if England fail to qualify he can come to the rescue on his white charger. The saviour of England!!!!


It just reads as bitterness in not being seriously considered for the England job. He's right but does anyone seriously think it would be any different with him as manager?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Ads on June 13, 2013, 01:45:06 PM
We wont see a good England side until we start to get more progressive coaches into all levels of the game.

Pace and power are great assets, but the focus should be on technique; any roid monkey can bulk.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Damo70 on June 13, 2013, 02:20:15 PM
More rumours that Laudrup is edging out of Swansea over transfer disagreements.

If it is true that Laudrup's agent wants to control the club's transfer policy, and Laudrup insists on it too, then they're doing entirely the right thing getting shot of him.

Laudrup knew the structure of the club and how they worked when he joined. Also, why his agent is so involved I don't know. I can't remember the agent of a club manager being involved in stuff like this before. We all know about players agents but managers can usually speak for themselves and fight their own corners.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: ozzjim on June 13, 2013, 02:36:52 PM
None of it sounds very good does it?!
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: VILLA MOLE on June 13, 2013, 02:39:20 PM
None of it sounds very good does it?!

no and laudrop always came across well to me
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: fbriai on June 13, 2013, 02:52:27 PM
None of it sounds very good does it?!

It doesn't does it.

I would have thought that they will find it difficult to maintain their present standard next season anyway, given that they are going to have midweek European matches to contend with as well, but this sort of spat can't be helpful either.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: ozzjim on June 13, 2013, 02:53:44 PM
I think from the way it is being suggested Laudrup was desperate for 3-4 players in early in the window with exactly that in mind, but it just seems to have not happened for whatever reason.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: fbriai on June 13, 2013, 02:56:26 PM
It all sounds a bit confused as well. People wanting to sell players, others not wanting to sell them. It seems as though there is a mini power struggle going on there.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Toronto Villa on June 13, 2013, 03:04:30 PM
it looks to me theat Laudrup is looking for an exit strategy that is going to be as favourable as possible in how he comes out of it.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: fbriai on June 13, 2013, 03:09:23 PM
I wouldn't be surprised at all if that were the case.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: TheMalandro on June 13, 2013, 03:13:38 PM
I give him credit for his signings last year, but to me, it sounds like he wants to spend money they haven't got. That is exactly why Portsmouth are where they are now.
You do have to speculate but not at the risk of the club.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: OCD on June 13, 2013, 10:19:00 PM
It's almost worth making a bid for Michu just to really throw a spanner in the works.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: peter w on June 13, 2013, 10:31:59 PM
Good to see Harry isn't bitter... http://www.football365.com/news/21554/8773128/-Arry-Sticks-The-Boot-In

It is priceless for a man who signed Peter Crouch 3 times and  tried a 4th, to complain about hoofing the ball upfield.


Saw him recently in a waterpark in Dubai. Missus looked fit in a bikini/swimming thing it has to be said.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: peter w on June 13, 2013, 10:34:37 PM
Good to see Harry isn't bitter... http://www.football365.com/news/21554/8773128/-Arry-Sticks-The-Boot-In

It is priceless for a man who signed Peter Crouch 3 times and  tried a 4th, to complain about hoofing the ball upfield.

He's right in everything he says though. In retrospect, and forget the london media fanafre for a minute, who do you think would be doing a better job out of Hodgson and Redknapp?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: SheffieldVillain on June 13, 2013, 10:35:54 PM
Good to see Harry isn't bitter... http://www.football365.com/news/21554/8773128/-Arry-Sticks-The-Boot-In

It is priceless for a man who signed Peter Crouch 3 times and  tried a 4th, to complain about hoofing the ball upfield.

He's right in everything he says though. In retrospect, and forget the london media fanafre for a minute, who do you think would be doing a better job out of Hodgson and Redknapp?

Hodgson.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 13, 2013, 10:39:39 PM
Good to see Harry isn't bitter... http://www.football365.com/news/21554/8773128/-Arry-Sticks-The-Boot-In

It is priceless for a man who signed Peter Crouch 3 times and  tried a 4th, to complain about hoofing the ball upfield.

He's right in everything he says though. In retrospect, and forget the london media fanafre for a minute, who do you think would be doing a better job out of Hodgson and Redknapp?

Hodgson.

England's problem is not about how the coach sends them out to play, the problem goes much, much deeper than that. All we can hope for from an England manager is that he organises the team well and hopes for the best.

Until we get massive changes from top to bottom in the game, that won't change.

In that respect, one thing Hodgson is very good at is organising a team. Redknapp is a decent manager, too, but comes with a gigantic portion of bullshit.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 13, 2013, 10:40:25 PM
Good to see Harry isn't bitter... http://www.football365.com/news/21554/8773128/-Arry-Sticks-The-Boot-In

It is priceless for a man who signed Peter Crouch 3 times and  tried a 4th, to complain about hoofing the ball upfield.


Saw him recently in a waterpark in Dubai. Missus looked fit in a bikini/swimming thing it has to be said.

Please tell me you're talking about Crouch's Mrs and not Sandra.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Louzie0 on June 14, 2013, 03:09:07 AM
Good to see Harry isn't bitter... http://www.football365.com/news/21554/8773128/-Arry-Sticks-The-Boot-In

It is priceless for a man who signed Peter Crouch 3 times and  tried a 4th, to complain about hoofing the ball upfield.


Saw him recently in a waterpark in Dubai. Missus looked fit in a bikini/swimming thing it has to be said.

Please tell me you're talking about Crouch's Mrs and not Sandra.

Oh no. Ageism at work on H&V. So sad. WTF does it matter who wears what in the jacuzzi. They're all on holiday, wearing what they want, like the men in their ill-fitting assortment of budgie smugglers, bermudas and dodgy underwear. 'Attractiveness' - who cares, really, unless superficiality rules.
It probably does.
Ignore me, I've just spent a week on a cruise ship faced with all of the above every morning before breakfast.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: SamTheMouse on June 14, 2013, 08:15:42 AM
More rumours that Laudrup is edging out of Swansea over transfer disagreements.

If it is true that Laudrup's agent wants to control the club's transfer policy, and Laudrup insists on it too, then they're doing entirely the right thing getting shot of him.

Laudrup knew the structure of the club and how they worked when he joined. Also, why his agent is so involved I don't know. I can't remember the agent of a club manager being involved in stuff like this before. We all know about players agents but managers can usually speak for themselves and fight their own corners.

They should fire Laudrup and offer his job to the agent.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Dr Butler on June 14, 2013, 12:36:54 PM
Dave Whelan has his man, Owen Coyle to Wigan according to the Beeb..
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on June 14, 2013, 12:49:24 PM
Chatted with graham Alexander many times over a pint about coyle and the feeling i get is whelan has made a good choice - he will get them up.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Clampy on June 14, 2013, 01:22:14 PM
I thought Whelan might have gone for another manager in the same ilk at Martinez, young and upcoming. Coyle may get them up but i think it'll take a couple of seasons before he does, that's if he does at all.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on June 14, 2013, 01:27:59 PM
I thought Whelan might have gone for another manager in the same ilk at Martinez, young and upcoming. Coyle may get them up but i think it'll take a couple of seasons before he does.

I think a lot will depend on who they sell this summer - coyle is a man manager and its good to see him back in the game - ive missed those ill fitting false gnashers :)
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Clampy on June 14, 2013, 01:30:30 PM
I don't know, it's a strange choice and if i were a Wigan fan, i'd be a bit underwhelmed. He took Bolton down and got the boot from there. I could be wrong though.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on June 14, 2013, 01:33:13 PM
Fair comment clampy, he took burnley up and I expected him to use Bolton as a stepping stone - was surprised it went so badly - i guess wigan fans are happy its not the wally with a brolly.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: john e on June 14, 2013, 01:41:53 PM
I like Owen Coyle, he deserves another shot,
 sometimes you get bogged down at a club and cant get out, he obviously made mistakes at Bolton, but maybe he can learn and come back better and stronger, i'd rather him than a hoof merchant

I hope he does well at Wigan
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Toronto Villa on June 14, 2013, 01:47:32 PM
when it went bad for Coyle it went backwards in a monumental way. He had no answers at all. He was all the rage for a bit and some people on here were pushing for him to be our manager. There was even some nonsense with Arsenal fans wanting Wenger out for Coyle. Coyle will get a chance to rebuild his career because it was going really well until the wheels fell off against Stoke in that cup semi final.

And I'm sure if Wigan go up Whelan will be talking about Coyle not being good enough for Bayern etc etc
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 14, 2013, 01:51:53 PM
It's harsh on managers sometimes that they get a blot on their record, and for many people, that's the end of them.

Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: john e on June 14, 2013, 01:53:20 PM
when it went bad for Coyle it went backwards in a monumental way. He had no answers at all. He was all the rage for a bit and some people on here were pushing for him to be our manager. There was even some nonsense with Arsenal fans wanting Wenger out for Coyle. Coyle will get a chance to rebuild his career because it was going really well until the wheels fell off against Stoke in that cup semi final.

And I'm sure if Wigan go up Whelan will be talking about Coyle not being good enough for Bayern etc etc


yes you are right, it did go badly wrong for him at Bolton, very badly
but I don't think he should be written of just yet, rebuilding his rep yes, but it has been done before it all depends on if he really is any good at the end of the day

I fancy he might be
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Clampy on June 14, 2013, 04:40:59 PM
Looking at SSN at the moment, i think they might be trying to tell us Pellegrini is the new Man City manager.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Damo70 on June 14, 2013, 05:12:07 PM
I think I heard the odd whisper that Pellegrini was in the frame for the City job.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: TheSandman on June 14, 2013, 06:38:29 PM
 
It's harsh on managers sometimes that they get a blot on their record, and for many people, that's the end of them.

Aye, he deserves another shot. Hopefully he'll learn from what happened at Notlob.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: cheltenhamlion on June 14, 2013, 07:06:22 PM
Some managers however, require eternal damnation for their behaviour. Like Pig Nose as a starting point.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Lizz on June 14, 2013, 08:54:32 PM
Heard Dave Whelan on the radio earlier, saying it may take Owen Coyle two seasons to get Wigan promoted back to the premiership. He was also going on about how proud he was that Wigan would be representing England in Europe next season.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: paulcomben on June 14, 2013, 09:23:52 PM
Coyle confirmed. Looking forward to Whelan boasting about Div Three status.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: OCD on June 14, 2013, 11:20:24 PM
Heard Dave Whelan on the radio earlier, saying it may take Owen Coyle two seasons to get Wigan promoted back to the premiership. He was also going on about how proud he was that Wigan would be representing England in Europe next season.

I wonder if there's a case for teams losing their European place if they get relegated?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: LeeB on June 14, 2013, 11:51:25 PM
I like Owen Coyle, he deserves another shot,
 sometimes you get bogged down at a club and cant get out, he obviously made mistakes at Bolton, but maybe he can learn and come back better and stronger, i'd rather him than a hoof merchant

I hope he does well at Wigan

I was just going to post something similar pal, then I read this.

Seconded.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 15, 2013, 12:11:14 AM
Coyle needs to stop wearing shorts on the touchline, though.

Totally unacceptable.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: damon loves JT on June 15, 2013, 01:23:31 AM
I really wish Harold Shipman had been Whelan's GP. Whelan would have gone in to get his ears syringed, and that would've been it
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: rob_bridge on June 15, 2013, 12:05:09 PM
Coyle needs to stop wearing shorts on the touchline, though.

Totally unacceptable.

Yes that too public a symptom of his Mid Life Crisis
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Damo70 on June 15, 2013, 03:55:30 PM
Coyle needs to stop wearing shorts on the touchline, though.

Totally unacceptable.

Yes that too public a symptom of his Mid Life Crisis

To be fair, I remember him wearing them once when it was freezing cold and I had some respect for him. When I go to a match in those conditions these days I have so many layers I look like my mum has dressed me.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 15, 2013, 09:48:16 PM
Coyle needs to stop wearing shorts on the touchline, though.

Totally unacceptable.

Yes that too public a symptom of his Mid Life Crisis

Or maybe he's a postman.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: olaftab on June 15, 2013, 09:53:30 PM
Coyle  has not posted anything significant in his entire career.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: LeeB on June 15, 2013, 10:50:37 PM
Coyle  has not posted anything significant in his entire career.

I share that problem.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: damon loves JT on June 15, 2013, 11:00:12 PM
Maybe Coyle is just one of those weird middle-aged blokes who secretly think they have nice legs. Most of them traditionally become scoutmasters
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: OCD on June 15, 2013, 11:10:07 PM
Or postmen.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: OzVilla on June 16, 2013, 09:55:59 AM
It's harsh on managers sometimes that they get a blot on their record, and for many people, that's the end of them.



And yet Steve Bruce and Mark Hughes still keep getting jobs.  I think that Man Utd factor gets a Manager extra kudos they perhaps don't deserve.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Damo70 on June 16, 2013, 11:42:06 AM
I think Bruce and Hughes are decent managers. Not great but steady. If I were a Hull or Stoke fan I would be confident of staying up under them. I don't think I would be saving up for many cup finals or European trips though.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: ozzjim on June 16, 2013, 03:05:16 PM
I like Coyle, but hope Wigan don't come back up.

Bruce is decent manager though certainly.

Hughes, we shall see at Stoke!
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on June 16, 2013, 05:12:58 PM
Joe kinnear the new director of football at newcastle. Clipping of pardews wings !
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 16, 2013, 05:18:14 PM
I am absolutely speechless at that Kinnear thing. He says he'll have responsibility for playing style and transfers.

That's truly incredible. What on earth are they doing?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on June 16, 2013, 05:20:17 PM
I am absolutely speechless at that Kinnear thing. He says he'll have responsibility for playing style and transfers.

That's truly incredible. What on earth are they doing?

Next Dennis wise will reappear :D
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 16, 2013, 05:20:57 PM
They're going down next season.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: SamTheMouse on June 16, 2013, 05:50:17 PM
Presumably Mike Ashley has placed a bet for £1,000,000,000,000,000 with William Hill that Newcastle will be relegated. Tis the only explanation.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on June 16, 2013, 06:03:19 PM
Interesting to read his comment today about selling Charles nsomnia because he didnt get on with him and wasnt a fighter .
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: john e on June 16, 2013, 06:06:05 PM
Kinnear is great for a laugh though
Didn't he turn up the last time and in his first press conference called a load of journals c***s
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Jon Crofts on June 16, 2013, 06:06:12 PM
I am absolutely speechless at that Kinnear thing. He says he'll have responsibility for playing style and transfers.

That's truly incredible. What on earth are they doing?

Fantastic appointment, watch and laugh as the Cartoon Army tear themselves to pieces.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Jon Crofts on June 16, 2013, 06:11:39 PM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/oct/03/newcastleunited.premierleague

Not for the little ones.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 16, 2013, 06:12:23 PM
Good god, imagine if this was us.

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Joe Kinnear: Ex-boss confirms Newcastle director of football role

Former Newcastle United manager Joe Kinnear has confirmed that he has been appointed as the Magpies' new director of football.
The 66-year-old, who managed the club during the 2008-2009 season, said he would be taking on the role of recruiting players.

"The deal is absolutely done," Kinnear told Sky Sports News.
"I signed the deal with owner Mike Ashley on Sunday. I intend to meet [manager] Alan Pardew this week."

Newcastle, who finished fifth from bottom last season, have yet to announce that Kinnear has been appointed.

The former Wimbledon manager said he wanted to make the team "far better", adding he would not interfere with team selection or tactics.
"I'm a very good judge of player and a good tactician," he added.
"Anything to do with football, I've been involved in. I intend to make Newcastle far better than they are now.

"I see a good player and know a good player. I have no other agenda. If I see players at the club right now and don't think they are good enough I intend to move them on."

Kinnear insisted there will "there will be no issues" between him and Pardew.

"I'm not picking the team," added Kinnear. "I'm there solely to make sure he gets the best possible team on the pitch."
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on June 16, 2013, 06:15:37 PM
Pardew is a tosser anyway - nice to see him squirm .
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: KevinGage on June 16, 2013, 06:19:10 PM
I am absolutely speechless at that Kinnear thing. He says he'll have responsibility for playing style and transfers.

That's truly incredible. What on earth are they doing?

Well, when a team has just undergone the kind of season Newcastle have gone through, the tendancy might be to reminisce about happier times.  An older, experienced and popular manager synonymous with a clubs golden period might be an obvious link between the board and the current coaching staff. 

Yeah, I struggle to see where Joe Kinnear fits into that too.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: john e on June 16, 2013, 06:20:52 PM
Pardew is a tosser anyway - nice to see him squirm .


Seconded
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on June 16, 2013, 06:21:23 PM

Hilarious stuff. Bets that Newcastle will be in meltdown by December ???
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: danno on June 16, 2013, 06:22:22 PM
I've only just heard about this perhaps Mike Ashley is trying to unsettle Pardew, in the hope he'll be more inclined to walk away from his six year deal?

Although seeing as he's already been taken to court by Keegan for constructive dismissal, its a fanciful notion at best.



Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: N'ZMAV on June 16, 2013, 06:22:35 PM
Hope he signs Bent then.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on June 16, 2013, 06:23:32 PM
I am absolutely speechless at that Kinnear thing. He says he'll have responsibility for playing style and transfers.

That's truly incredible. What on earth are they doing?

Well, when a team has just undergone the kind of season Newcastle have gone through, the tendancy might be to reminisce about happier times.  An older, experienced and popular manager synonymous with a clubs golden period might be an obvious link between the board and the current coaching staff. 

Yeah, I struggle to see where Joe Kinnear fits into that too.

Apparently lambias told ashley to appoint Arthur cox but he thought he said appoint a cock and went for kinnear.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: N'ZMAV on June 16, 2013, 06:28:10 PM
Pardew will resign.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on June 16, 2013, 06:33:15 PM
Pardew will resign.

Good case for constructive dismissal- wise will come in as coach :)
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: john e on June 16, 2013, 06:38:25 PM
Pardew will resign.


Maybe that's Ashley's cunning plan
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Jon Crofts on June 16, 2013, 06:39:50 PM
Pardew will resign.

Good case for constructive dismissal- wise will come in as coach :)

That's just such a delicious scenario.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: villan from luton on June 16, 2013, 06:43:42 PM
Ashley and Kinnear must be drinking buddies, live near each other in North London. Kinnear really is an arrogant fecker, he should get on well with Pardew
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Percy McCarthy on June 16, 2013, 06:44:57 PM
Pardew will resign.


Maybe that's Ashley's cunning plan

That's the only way this appointment makes any sense. But I bet he ends up paying him multi-millions.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: gervilla on June 16, 2013, 06:54:53 PM
Just sit back and watch mayhem unfold.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Woofles The Wonder Dog on June 16, 2013, 07:05:35 PM
When he's shouting at his players Coyle does that thing where he puts his hands up other side of his mouth to focus the sound. Except that he spreads his fingers, somewhat spoiling the effect, but more importantly making him look like Dr. Zoidberg.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Lizz on June 16, 2013, 07:33:47 PM
There are some Newcastle fans on SSN right now, though I can hardly understand what they're saying, I'm guessing they're not welcoming him with open arms.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: paulcomben on June 16, 2013, 08:06:51 PM
Oh dear oh dear. Poor Toon fans. Some of them are pals of mine. Identical to Houllier being appointed as Villa's DofF. Surprising, terrifying and with a worrying heart condition.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: rob_bridge on June 16, 2013, 08:13:46 PM
Oh dear oh dear. Poor Toon fans. Some of them are pals of mine. Identical to Houllier being appointed as Villa's DofF. Surprising, terrifying and with a worrying heart condition.

Except it was worse or us as we had McAllister as his side kick.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: KevinGage on June 16, 2013, 08:19:34 PM
Houllier - for all his unfortunate foot in mouth tendancies-  would have actually made a brilliant technical director, IMO.

Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Ian J on June 16, 2013, 08:25:07 PM
Pardew and Kinnear, my God that's got to hurt if your a Newcastle fan! I would not be looking forward to the new season.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: paulcomben on June 16, 2013, 08:25:15 PM
Check out the current BBC report on Joke In 'Ere, before it is changed. Best paragraph ever. "I've never been the manager of a relegated team [Ed: He was manager of Luton when they were relegated in 2001.]"
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Jarpie on June 16, 2013, 08:25:56 PM
I'll give Pardew six months at most before he quits due disagreements.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: paulcomben on June 16, 2013, 08:27:29 PM
Toon's head scout is Alan Carr's Dad Graham. Guess he may also be drafting his resignation letter.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: citizenDJ on June 16, 2013, 08:40:52 PM
Joe Kinnear?! Director of Football?! Christ, that's strange.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: paulcomben on June 16, 2013, 08:53:59 PM
There are some Newcastle fans on SSN right now, though I can hardly understand what they're saying, I'm guessing they're not welcoming him with open arms.


Oh, silly you. Obviously, they're saying "WegandoontheToonfergidfootbabutwathefookisthatbossmandeein, pet?"
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: rob_bridge on June 16, 2013, 08:55:41 PM
Fine with me to see other club's making dubious management position appointment
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: TheSandman on June 16, 2013, 08:56:50 PM
It's been a while since something stupid happened at Newcastle so you knew that when it came it would be something so massively amusing.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: The Left Side on June 16, 2013, 09:02:06 PM
It's been a while since something stupid happened at Newcastle so you knew that when it came it would be something so massively amusing.

this
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Des Little on June 16, 2013, 09:10:46 PM
They never fail to amuse. What a circus
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 16, 2013, 10:44:22 PM
If you have a spare 10 minutes, this is worth listening

http://www1.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/teams/newcastle-united/8779387/kinnear-returns

He sounds genuinely like he's mentally ill, getting names wrong, massively over-inflated view of his own ability, confused about his roll, talking about how he'll move players on if he doesn't rate them, but apparently Pardew is cool with it.

Crikey.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Percy McCarthy on June 16, 2013, 10:50:17 PM
If you have a spare 10 minutes, this is worth listening

http://www1.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/teams/newcastle-united/8779387/kinnear-returns

He sounds genuinely like he's mentally ill, getting names wrong, massively over-inflated view of his own ability, confused about his roll, talking about how he'll move players on if he doesn't rate them, but apparently Pardew is cool with it.

Crikey.

If it's what was on SSN earlier I was watching it live, the insanity slowly dawning on me and grabbing my attention from the cricket on the i-pad.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: TheSandman on June 16, 2013, 10:59:52 PM
Is this properly confirmed? If the only source is Kinnear the whole thing smacks of the interview Tony Adams gave a few years back where he'd claimed to have got the Celtic job.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: danno on June 16, 2013, 11:00:12 PM
They've had enough time to deny it I suppose.

Although I do keep expecting a statement from them dismissing this as the ramblings of a loon.

(a looney toon you could say).

Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Des Little on June 16, 2013, 11:37:15 PM
Hasn't even spoken to Pardew yet and already talking about what needs doing. Pardew won't be there come the kick off. Absolute madness.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Damo70 on June 17, 2013, 12:17:03 AM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/oct/03/newcastleunited.premierleague

Not for the little ones.

As far as shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted, the Newcastle press officer's comment half way through takes some beating. "What has been said in here is off the record and doesn't go outside". I also loved Kinnear's comment. "I'm clearing the air. And then I'm not going to speak to you".

As for the actual appointment today. Staggering. The post by citizenDJ summed it up best. "Christ, that's strange". Good to see Kinnear has come in very humble and ready to work in harmony with Alan Pardew. Hence the comment "I know more about football than anyone else at this club".
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Toronto Villa on June 17, 2013, 12:33:20 AM
If you have a spare 10 minutes, this is worth listening

http://www1.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/teams/newcastle-united/8779387/kinnear-returns

He sounds genuinely like he's mentally ill, getting names wrong, massively over-inflated view of his own ability, confused about his roll, talking about how he'll move players on if he doesn't rate them, but apparently Pardew is cool with it.

Crikey.

Were we not discussing recently Newcastle being completely fucked next season? Looks like they are doing everything possible to prove us right.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Toronto Villa on June 17, 2013, 12:46:12 AM
Hasn't even spoken to Pardew yet and already talking about what needs doing. Pardew won't be there come the kick off. Absolute madness.

What odds Kinnear being appointed manager at some point I wonder?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Mister E on June 17, 2013, 08:16:42 AM
Barcodes: bizarre, weird ... and rather wonderful.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: citizenDJ on June 17, 2013, 08:23:19 AM
Just watched that video.

Wow. That's, er.....that's not going to end well, is it?

Hilariously, no doubt, but not well.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: john e on June 17, 2013, 08:26:52 AM
until its confirmed, i'm  not believing it
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Ads on June 17, 2013, 08:36:14 AM
I thought Newcastle were in danger of taking the plunge before this, now I am convinced they will struggle.

Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: MoetVillan on June 17, 2013, 08:42:47 AM
Blimey between Laudrup, Di Canio and Pardew, i just cant make my mind up who's going next
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on June 17, 2013, 08:45:25 AM
Hasn't even spoken to Pardew yet and already talking about what needs doing. Pardew won't be there come the kick off. Absolute madness.

What odds Kinnear being appointed manager at some point I wonder?

Zero - his health wouldn't let him , don't rule out little Dennis wise making a hugely unpopular return as team manager!
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Chris Jameson on June 17, 2013, 09:31:30 AM
No fan of Kinnear but did think it was funny when he was talking about N'Zogbia and how he would tell him his agent had been approached by Barcelona, Arsenal, Man United etc so naturally Kinnear had no choice but to let him go to Wigan.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: ozzjim on June 17, 2013, 10:10:31 AM
If you have a spare 10 minutes, this is worth listening

http://www1.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/teams/newcastle-united/8779387/kinnear-returns

He sounds genuinely like he's mentally ill, getting names wrong, massively over-inflated view of his own ability, confused about his roll, talking about how he'll move players on if he doesn't rate them, but apparently Pardew is cool with it.

Crikey.

Were we not discussing recently Newcastle being completely fucked next season? Looks like they are doing everything possible to prove us right.
Crikey gets the first sentence totally wrong.

And why is he trying to put on a posh accent!? Hilarious. Really is.

Graham Carr has found a number of players that would make Newcastle massive profit now, and I would imagine is spitting feathers.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on June 17, 2013, 10:17:17 AM
If you have a spare 10 minutes, this is worth listening

http://www1.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/teams/newcastle-united/8779387/kinnear-returns

He sounds genuinely like he's mentally ill, getting names wrong, massively over-inflated view of his own ability, confused about his roll, talking about how he'll move players on if he doesn't rate them, but apparently Pardew is cool with it.

Crikey.

Were we not discussing recently Newcastle being completely fucked next season? Looks like they are doing everything possible to prove us right.
Crikey gets the first sentence totally wrong.

And why is he trying to put on a posh accent!? Hilarious. Really is.

Graham Carr has found a number of players that would make Newcastle massive profit now, and I would imagine is spitting feathers.

Top bloke graham Carr , managed the borough for a spell too.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: midnite on June 17, 2013, 10:19:56 AM
Carr and pardew both on 8 year contracts too. Going to be a massive payout when they've had enough of kinnear. Such an odd appointment and an even more insane interview with him. Not talking himself up too much either.

This is going to be entertaining to watch. Sit back and grab the popcorn...
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Chris Jameson on June 17, 2013, 10:21:12 AM
Bloody hell, just listened to the interview. He's got a very high opinion of himself, this is going to be very funny.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on June 17, 2013, 10:22:18 AM
Carr and pardew both on 8 year contracts too. Going to be a massive payout when they've had enough of kinnear. Such an odd appointment and an even more insane interview with him. Not talking himself up too much either.

This is going to be entertaining to watch. Sit back and grab the popcorn...

Pardews contract is riddled with several clauses though - he won't get the full payout.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Ads on June 17, 2013, 10:32:21 AM
Carr and pardew both on 8 year contracts too. Going to be a massive payout when they've had enough of kinnear. Such an odd appointment and an even more insane interview with him. Not talking himself up too much either.

This is going to be entertaining to watch. Sit back and grab the popcorn...

Pardews contract is riddled with several clauses though - he won't get the full payout.

Unless you've seen the contract and you're an employment lawyer; how would you know?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Chris Jameson on June 17, 2013, 10:36:07 AM


Unless you've seen the contract and you're an employment lawyer; how would you know?

Without wishing to go over old ground, he'll get a years salary when he's sacked. I'm not an employment lawyer just somebody who lives in the North and has seen/heard/read it being discussed by people who seem to know.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on June 17, 2013, 10:36:39 AM
Carr and pardew both on 8 year contracts too. Going to be a massive payout when they've had enough of kinnear. Such an odd appointment and an even more insane interview with him. Not talking himself up too much either.

This is going to be entertaining to watch. Sit back and grab the popcorn...

Pardews contract is riddled with several clauses though - he won't get the full payout.

Unless you've seen the contract and you're an employment lawyer; how would you know?

Was widely reported the day  he signed it that it contained several clauses as confirmed by lambias.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 17, 2013, 11:09:04 AM
Crikey, he sounds absolutely nuts.

Quote
“Which one of you is Simon Bird? You’re a c**t.”

That was Joe Kinnear’s infamous opening line in diplomacy as he strode into his first press conference as Newcastle United boss five years ago.

In a charm offensive, which was more offensive than charm, he set about his job by swearing 52 times in the first five minutes of a blistering rant. He set a tone of chaos, misinformation and turmoil that ended in a heart attack for Kinnear, and relegation for Newcastle in their most humiliating season in living memory.

So who better for Mike Ashley to whisk in to calm the club after a troubled, fractious season on and of the pitch?

At a time when a clear, methodical, detailed head is needed, who do you turn to?

Someone who can sooth, discretely put out fires, be a rock at Alan Pardew’s side. Someone who won’t make any public play to take over his managerial duties.

Joe “f******” Kinnear, of course. The only man for the job in Mike Ashley’s eyes.

It is hard not to view Kinnear’s return as Director of Football, as a major power play by Ashley, against Pardew, who only just clung on to his job at end of the season after a terrible campaign in league and domestic cups.

Already last night Kinnear, now a loyal Ashley spy inside the football operation, launched his first grenade that exploded at Pardew’s door. He was now “in charge of transfers.”

He also claimed: “I know I’ve got more knowledge than most people at Newcastle about football.”

Adding the usual rider: “That’s no disrespect to anybody there.”

Except it is.

Pardew will no doubt have been delighted to hear Kinnear offering him any advice he needs. Kinnear added: “I will sit down with Alan Pardew and talk about what we need to be successful. I will bend over backwards to make sure we’re successful.”

A suspicious mind might conclude that Ashley would have been a tad embarrassed to sack Pardew in May, just seven months after giving him an eight year contract, so did the next best thing and parachuted close chum Kinnear in to shake things up a bit and make Pardew feel uncomfortable.

Why is this such a big deal? Kinnear’s record while boss was unspectacular, setting the course for relegation before he was sidelined by ill health in February 2009

Is he the perfect deal maker? When boss, he claimed Michael Owen was signing a new contract (it didn’t happen). He said Nicky Butt was staying long term (it didn’t happen). He had top Argentinians playing in Italy on the verge of signing (it didn’t happen).

Every other week was “D-day” for Ashley to sell the club (it never happened).

He regaled us with a brilliant anecdote of the time when he was manger of Nepal in 1987 (yes that bit is actually true) and had to flee the country because the Crown Prince (who apparently used to helicopter him over Everest) had shot his parents the King and Queen. Turned out that happened 14 years later, by which time he was boss of Luton.

Let’s hope Kinnear has more of an eye for a detail when buying all Newcastle’s players and negotiating contracts this summer. As well as weeding out under performing players, another of his pledges last night.

There was one sentence of solace for Pardew, which will be tested next season. Kinnear said: “There are no issues. My job is quite clear. I’m Director of Football, he’s manager.

“I’m not picking the team, that’s what manager gets paid for. I’m there to ensure he gets best possible team on pitch. Tactics and coaching are strictly down to him. If he has questions, he’ll ask them and I’ll answer them.”

Any questions to Joe, then Alan? Feel free to ask.

Ever since Kinnear quit, Newcastle sources insisted that Ashley “still loves Joe.” He’s was “our kind of man.”

Ashley loves a bit of creative tension at the top of his businesses. He loves a good ruck, a bit of swearing, a blow out in the open, and then no grudges held the next day. Kinnear will fit perfectly.

Kinnear says he is “fit as a fiddle” these days. He clearly has football qualities, although it is 21 years since he took charge at Wimbledon his undoubted success story, and it remains to be seen how sharp they remain.

Last night Kinnear was already bemoaning his “relationship with the media”, which was actually fairly straight forward and non-confrontational, after his initial blast and threats of multiple banning orders. We asked the questions, he answered, we checked the facts.

He also moaned about not being accepted first time round because he wasn’t a Geordie.

He added: “What I can offer is that I believe I’m a very good judge of players, a very good tactician. I intend to take Newcastle far better than there are now. I’ve a bright head. I can see a good player, get the right players in to make us successful.

“As far as attack-wise, the season before last we got lots of goals, last season we were struggling. Defensively we need to shore up. It was a lot to do with the Europa League. We didn’t have enough quality players to go with the league, FA Cup, league cup. We had drained players, picked up a lot of injuries. We need to address that badly.”

So let's remind ourselves. Pardew remains manager of Newcastle United. Joe Kinnear is Director of Football.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/joe-kinnears-return-newcastle-mean-1957290

That "they dont like me because I am not a Geordie" must be their equivalent of our "they don't like McLeish because of who he used to manage".
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: danno on June 17, 2013, 11:15:38 AM
Joe Kinnear the man who puts the F back into director of football.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: ozzjim on June 17, 2013, 11:16:34 AM
You do have to feel a pang or two of sympathy for their fans.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: midnite on June 17, 2013, 11:31:58 AM
Don't think I'll loose too much sleep over it though ozzjim ha!! I do like the jordy fans but they do suffer with delusions of grandeur.

You do get the feeling Ashley just loves carnage. Pardew suffered with second season syndrome for sure. The team was found out. The players weren't playing as well as they did the previous year and they had more games to play, being in Europe.

But this is just nuts!
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Ads on June 17, 2013, 01:16:02 PM


Unless you've seen the contract and you're an employment lawyer; how would you know?

Without wishing to go over old ground, he'll get a years salary when he's sacked. I'm not an employment lawyer just somebody who lives in the North and has seen/heard/read it being discussed by people who seem to know.

What a piss poor solicitor he had then if that is the case.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: *shellac* on June 17, 2013, 01:40:43 PM
You do have to feel a pang or two of sympathy for their fans.
I will.  Only on that day Mike Ashley decides to appoint the Horse-Boxer as the new manager.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on June 17, 2013, 02:24:31 PM
Whelan will be preening himself ready for his live revealing of Owen coyle at 4pm - the old false gnashers of coyle will be gleaming for the occassion.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: john e on June 17, 2013, 05:43:44 PM
It's so ludicrous that I'm still not believing it until its official
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on June 17, 2013, 06:24:33 PM
Interesting sound of silence at st James park.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 17, 2013, 06:29:45 PM


Unless you've seen the contract and you're an employment lawyer; how would you know?

Without wishing to go over old ground, he'll get a years salary when he's sacked. I'm not an employment lawyer just somebody who lives in the North and has seen/heard/read it being discussed by people who seem to know.

What a piss poor solicitor he had then if that is the case.

It's standard in managers' contracts.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: OCD on June 17, 2013, 07:17:28 PM
Joe Kinnear the man who puts the F back into director of football.

Or doesn't as the case might be.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 17, 2013, 11:15:15 PM
[ Invalid YouTube link ]!

8.05 - calls Yohan Cabaye Yohan Kebab. Talks about Galtierez (Guttierez), Ben Affray and Sholes Amamobi.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: ozzjim on June 17, 2013, 11:30:46 PM
I think it's sll bollocks and he is hallucinating thr whole thing through some heavy meds. He sounds so slurred no one would actually give him the director of football role surely?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Ad@m on June 17, 2013, 11:35:02 PM


Unless you've seen the contract and you're an employment lawyer; how would you know?

Without wishing to go over old ground, he'll get a years salary when he's sacked. I'm not an employment lawyer just somebody who lives in the North and has seen/heard/read it being discussed by people who seem to know.

What a piss poor solicitor he had then if that is the case.

It's standard in managers' contracts.

I don't understand what the relevance of saying he'd been given an 8 year contract if they can sack him and only pay him one year's salary?  What does the 8 years of an 8 year contract actually mean?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 17, 2013, 11:36:15 PM


Unless you've seen the contract and you're an employment lawyer; how would you know?

Without wishing to go over old ground, he'll get a years salary when he's sacked. I'm not an employment lawyer just somebody who lives in the North and has seen/heard/read it being discussed by people who seem to know.

What a piss poor solicitor he had then if that is the case.

It's standard in managers' contracts.

I don't understand what the relevance of saying he'd been given an 8 year contract if they can sack him and only pay him one year's salary?  What does the 8 years of an 8 year contract actually mean?

Presumably any club who wants him would have to pay up the contract.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on June 18, 2013, 12:05:10 AM
This is truly amazing!
Must be a spoof!
Come on Dave!
Stoppit!
You control the World as we at H&V know it...
April Fool???
Summer Madness???
Mad March Hare???
Simply, NUTS?
Answers on a post box to...
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on June 18, 2013, 12:11:43 AM
[ Invalid YouTube link ]!

8.05 - calls Yohan Cabaye Yohan Kebab. Talks about Galtierez (Guttierez), Ben Affray and Sholes Amamobi.

Newcastle saves the off season. I have tears rolling down my cheeks laughing.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: atomicjam on June 18, 2013, 12:28:29 AM
What an interview. I cannot believe they are really going to employ him, but I really hope they do...

Joe Kinnear stuns Newcastle fans by getting their players' names wrong in radio interview

18 Jun 2013 00:01

Toon's proposed new director of football unable to pronounce Ben Arfa, Cabaye or Ameobi and makes string of other errorsNewcastle fans claim their club has been turned into a laughing stock after new director of football Joe Kinnear gave a cringeworthy defence of his job .

The former Toon boss gave a radio interview a day after he announced himself that he had taken the position at St James’ Park.

Kinnear took to the airwaves after the appointment was greeted with widespread criticism from the Magpies' fans.

But instead of clarifying his position, he launched into a gaffe-strewn rant against the fans and media, while repeatedly getting the names wrong of players and management wrong – including pronouncing Yohan Cabaye as ‘Cabab’.

He also claimed to have signed a player who had already been at the club for several years when he arrived.

He referred to managing director Derek Lambias as ‘Lambezee’, Yohan Cabaye as ‘Cababs’, Shola Ameobi as 'Amanobi', Jonas Gutierrez as 'Gaultierez' and Hatem Ben Arfa as both ‘Ben Afrie’ and 'Ben Afra'.

When asked about supporter unrest, he said on talkSPORT: “Look at my record. These people ask what have I done. Where have these people been - on another planet? I’ve played in five Cup Finals and won the lot. I played more than 400 games for Tottenham Hotspur.

“Already they’re jumping on the bandwagon and saying, ‘look out, Pards’. But I expect it, it’s water off a duck’s a**e.”

Kinnear, who actually made 258 appearances for Spurs, said he will meet manager Alan Pardew on Tuesday as both men attempt to establish some boundaries.

The 66-year-old, who managed the Geordies in the 2008-09 season - which ended in them being relegated from the Premier League - claimed to have brought keeper Tim Krul, who made his Magpies debut in 2006, to the club.

He also claimed to have paid £50,000 for striker Dean Holdworth when Wimbledon manager (actual figure: £720,000) and to have been Manager of the Year three times (he was LMA Manager of the Year in 1994).

Reliving his infamous rant at reporters in October 2008, Kinnear also claimed his Newcastle side had beaten Spurs that night, 2-1.

However, the incident happened on a Thursday, and the Magpies had not played since the previous Saturday - when they LOST 2-1 to Blackburn.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/joe-kinnears-newcastle-return-mistake-filled-1959361?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Irish villain on June 18, 2013, 12:39:55 AM
They are fucked.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 18, 2013, 12:42:01 AM
This could get very very entertaining.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Ad@m on June 18, 2013, 12:46:31 AM
Presumably any club who wants him would have to pay up the contract.

They must be paying him a LOT then because I can't think why else someone would sign such a horribly one-sided contract.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 18, 2013, 12:49:06 AM
Presumably any club who wants him would have to pay up the contract.

They must be paying him a LOT then because I can't think why else someone would sign such a horribly one-sided contract.

Yes, I would imagine that a Premier League manager does get paid a lot. He does a bad job, he gets sacked for incompetence, he gets a year's wages.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Ad@m on June 18, 2013, 12:55:39 AM
Presumably any club who wants him would have to pay up the contract.

They must be paying him a LOT then because I can't think why else someone would sign such a horribly one-sided contract.

Yes, I would imagine that a Premier League manager does get paid a lot. He does a bad job, he gets sacked for incompetence, he gets a year's wages.

But equally, he does a good job, a much bigger club considers approaching him but is then put off by the fact they've got to pay 6 year's wages to release him from his contract and decide to walk away.  That is a massively one-sided contract.  Players and managers only want long contracts so that they have some element of job security but in this 8 year contract it sounds like Pardew's got very little security so he must be being rewarded some other way.

And 'yes, I imagine a Premier League manager does get paid a lot' is a pretty unnecessarily sarcastic response to a genuine discussion.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 18, 2013, 01:16:03 AM
It's a standard clause in every manager contract that I've heard of.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Ad@m on June 18, 2013, 01:34:37 AM
It's a standard clause in every manager contract that I've heard of.

Why are they different to player contracts?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: ozzjim on June 18, 2013, 01:46:29 AM
It's a standard clause in every manager contract that I've heard of.

So how did MON walk away with what appeared to be more than that despite welching on us. And there is a constant talk through a season that clubs could not afford to sack x due to x years left on their deal. I don't think I have ever heard that it is standard to have a 1 year salary pay out on sacking. Didn't AVB walk with 12 million from Chelsea last season?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: damon loves JT on June 18, 2013, 06:50:38 AM
Since Kinnear's problem appears to be that he exaggerates and tells lies, I would be surprised if he is really Director of Football and Newcastle. Seems more likely he's been offered some kind of fee if he finds players for the club to sign.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on June 18, 2013, 07:03:31 AM
I heard that interview and the funniest claim was he played in the greatest team in the world at the time - a spurs side who got nowhere near a title challenge.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on June 18, 2013, 07:12:27 AM
 Yohan Cabye is reportedly very upset at being branded "Yohan Kebab" by Joe Kinnear. His wife Donna is also said to be furious.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: VillaSpen on June 18, 2013, 07:17:49 AM
This whole thing has been priceless so far. Each interview is getting more and more mental. This bloke could to dissolve into a pool of insanity within weeks.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: john e on June 18, 2013, 07:34:12 AM
There is no way this is true,
Kinnear is having a very public personal breakdown
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: ozzjim on June 18, 2013, 07:44:05 AM
There is no way this is true,
Kinnear is having a very public personal breakdown

That is the only thing I can think. He must be.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: damon loves JT on June 18, 2013, 07:54:55 AM
Having sat through Ian Brady's medical tribunal yesterday, I can honestly say that Brady comes across as the more balanced and rational person
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Clampy on June 18, 2013, 08:32:23 AM
There is no way this is true,
Kinnear is having a very public personal breakdown

That is the only thing I can think. He must be.

The thought crossed my mind as well. Maybe he's going somewhere else who play in black and white and he got a bit confused. Maybe Grumsby?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on June 18, 2013, 08:36:10 AM
Newcastle would have denied it by now if not true , ashley and kinnear are old mates - expect little Dennis wise to appear next in the dug out.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: rob_bridge on June 18, 2013, 08:40:29 AM
The only rational reason for this is that it is the cheapest of publicity stunts to generate interest into this fading sleeping slumbering giant of a club over the next few weeks. Kinnear is the hired comedian in the meantime.
Once Pardew comes back from his holidays - it'll be shown to be one big joke at everyone else's expense.

I cannot think of any other reason though given the fact this is Mike Ashley and Newcastle it could transpire to be a dreadful decision even by their standards
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: SlideruleSid on June 18, 2013, 08:40:42 AM
I didn't think I could actually get more amused than I was by the initial announcement/his pronouncements.

Then he cut loose and he's reminded me of a strange hybrid creature, part drunk tramp and part Crazy Cat Lady from The Simpsons. It can't be long now before he's lurching into press conferences wearing a tatty piss and vomit stained suit throwing cats at the press corps.

This really is going to be beyond car crash stuff.  ;D
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: fbriai on June 18, 2013, 09:35:30 AM
It's hard to understand the thinking behind his re-appointment. It's also hard to understand exactly what Pardew is going to do from now on, apart from being the ball boy. His silence surely speaks volumes. I'd have thought he would have very good grounds to win a constructive dismissal case.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 18, 2013, 09:46:26 AM
It's a standard clause in every manager contract that I've heard of.

Why are they different to player contracts?

Players rarely get sacked.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: john e on June 18, 2013, 09:57:30 AM
Kinnear hasn't been appointed,
 there has been no official statement from NUFC, I realise they haven't denied it either, the only reason we think Kinnear has the job is because he's told us

but if Kinnear is ill, as I think he may be, they could be wondering on how best to handle it
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: CJ on June 18, 2013, 10:14:51 AM
Pardew has been on holiday apparently and gets back to the club today. Official statement sometime later today. I feel as though I should be pulling up a chair and opening a bag of popcorn to watch the comedy unfold.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 18, 2013, 11:06:40 AM
Kinnear hasn't been appointed,
 there has been no official statement from NUFC, I realise they haven't denied it either, the only reason we think Kinnear has the job is because he's told us

but if Kinnear is ill, as I think he may be, they could be wondering on how best to handle it

If he's made it up, surely the media would have spoken to Newcastle and blanked him.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on June 18, 2013, 11:10:44 AM
The newcastle journal and chronicle both make great online reading today - kinnear has alienated the press and they are having a field day at his expense.

I think ashley has excelled himself with this appointment - who needs mourinho when big joe is about!
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 18, 2013, 11:12:19 AM
The press in the north east have confirmed it with the club
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Clampy on June 18, 2013, 11:16:43 AM
Someone on Talksport yesterday summed it up. Just as Newcastle appear to be making some kind of progress (albeit slow), Mike Ashley manages to put his foot in it.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: john e on June 18, 2013, 11:48:00 AM
The press in the north east have confirmed it with the club


well i'm staggered, I really cant believe it
 I thought we were the world champs at crackers appointments, but if its been confirmed it blows us out of the water
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on June 18, 2013, 12:07:12 PM
 BREAKING: Joe Kinnear declares: "I have full confidence in Alan Depardieu"
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: fbriai on June 18, 2013, 12:11:31 PM
I would love to hear him try to pronounce 'Depardieu'.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Clampy on June 18, 2013, 12:15:32 PM
I would love to hear him try to pronounce 'Depardieu'.

He'd say 'Alan Partridge' i reckon.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: fbriai on June 18, 2013, 12:16:24 PM
From the Beeb: Joe Kinnear: Newcastle confirm director of football role (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22954309)
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: damon loves JT on June 18, 2013, 12:21:26 PM
He will be the senior executive in charge of football matters.

That is potty. The theory is fine, but Joe Kinnear? Crikey
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: fbriai on June 18, 2013, 12:23:29 PM
Quote from: BBC article
The 66-year-old will report to the club's board as the senior executive in charge of all football-related matters at the St James' Park outfit.

Current Newcastle boss Alan Pardew will report to Kinnear.

I want to hear Pardew explain how this is anything other than a demotion.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Dr Butler on June 18, 2013, 12:24:36 PM
apart from the 4/5 months as "interim" manager, has he not been in the game for a decade or so ?  Crazy appointment.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on June 18, 2013, 12:24:37 PM
Quote from: BBC article
The 66-year-old will report to the club's board as the senior executive in charge of all football-related matters at the St James' Park outfit.

Current Newcastle boss Alan Pardew will report to Kinnear.

I want to hear Pardew explain how this is anything other than a demotion.

Serves the smarmy git right.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: danlanza on June 18, 2013, 12:27:22 PM
BREAKING: Joe Kinnear declares: "I have full confidence in Alan Depardieu"
Qquality.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: saunders_heroes on June 18, 2013, 12:27:42 PM
Quote from: BBC article
The 66-year-old will report to the club's board as the senior executive in charge of all football-related matters at the St James' Park outfit.

Current Newcastle boss Alan Pardew will report to Kinnear.

I want to hear Pardew explain how this is anything other than a demotion.

Serves the smarmy git right.

Yeah, couldn't have happened to a nicer bloke.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 18, 2013, 12:31:10 PM
Newcastle are truly cursed.

How did they manage to go from finishing fifth two years ago, to narrowly avoiding relegation, and then on to this laughable state of affairs?

We go on about our leadership sometimes being clueless but, honestly, that lot make the likes of Faulkner look like David Dein by comparison.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 18, 2013, 12:32:03 PM
Quote from: BBC article
The 66-year-old will report to the club's board as the senior executive in charge of all football-related matters at the St James' Park outfit.

Current Newcastle boss Alan Pardew will report to Kinnear.

I want to hear Pardew explain how this is anything other than a demotion.

They have said that Pardew and Carr will both report to Kinnear.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Clampy on June 18, 2013, 12:33:17 PM
It's going to end in tears is'nt it?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Ads on June 18, 2013, 12:34:03 PM
Newcastle are truly cursed.

How did they manage to go from finishing fifth two years ago, to narrowly avoiding relegation, and then on to this laughable state of affairs?

We go on about our leadership sometimes being clueless but, honestly, that lot make the likes of Faulkner look like David Dein by comparison.

Its madness.

We need to arrest the slide, sort out the internal frictions in the squad and push forwards. How is the solution to that problem Joe Kinnear?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on June 18, 2013, 12:34:13 PM
It's going to end in tears is'nt it?

Yes , tears of laughter for everyone else ;D
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Dr Butler on June 18, 2013, 12:35:13 PM
It's going to end in tears is'nt it?

tears of laughter.... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on June 18, 2013, 12:36:12 PM
It's going to end in tears is'nt it?

tears of laughter.... ;D ;D ;D

A couple of minutes late there doc ;)
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: fbriai on June 18, 2013, 12:39:51 PM
We need to arrest the slide, sort out the internal frictions in the squad and push forwards. How is the solution to that problem Joe Kinnear?

Lambezee heard someone telling ol' Joe to 'mind his French', put two and two together, came up with five and hey presto, he finds himself in charge of the Titanic.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Dr Butler on June 18, 2013, 12:44:15 PM
It's going to end in tears is'nt it?

tears of laughter.... ;D ;D ;D

A couple of minutes late there doc ;)

kin'ell...I hate you.. :(
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on June 18, 2013, 12:45:48 PM
Personally I like Joe Kinnear. He's like the mad uncle who turns up at Christmas and teaches swear words to the kids
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: GordonCowansisthegreatest on June 18, 2013, 12:48:14 PM
It's all a cunning plan.

Didn't they give Pardew a job for life? This is probably their way of making him walk (the plank).
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on June 18, 2013, 12:51:29 PM
It's all a cunning plan.

Didn't they give Pardew a job for life? This is probably their way of making him walk (the plank).

Little Dennis wise has been spotted in mothercare being fitted for a new tracksuit ready to replace pards.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Chris Jameson on June 18, 2013, 01:19:37 PM
Personally I like Joe Kinnear. He's like the mad uncle who turns up at Christmas and teaches swear words to the kids

Are you Graeme Swann?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on June 18, 2013, 01:24:02 PM
Personally I like Joe Kinnear. He's like the mad uncle who turns up at Christmas and teaches swear words to the kids

Are you Graeme Swann?

The legend of spin , and a newcastle fan to boot , I share his view on joe k !
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: john e on June 18, 2013, 01:39:05 PM
its all water of a ducks arse
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on June 18, 2013, 01:42:58 PM
its all water of a ducks arse

Indeed , I was surprised he kept his language in check in such a long live interview to be honest .
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Ad@m on June 18, 2013, 01:47:22 PM
It's a standard clause in every manager contract that I've heard of.

Why are they different to player contracts?

Players rarely get sacked.

And don't we know it - Ireland could've been gone years ago!
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: paulcomben on June 18, 2013, 03:54:20 PM
Pearce out. Southgate in?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Clampy on June 18, 2013, 04:01:11 PM
Pearce out. Southgate in?

Not so sure Southgate is the right man either. Maybe someone like Poyet or somebody who will get them playing football.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Chris Jameson on June 18, 2013, 04:15:38 PM
Pearce out. Southgate in?

Not so sure Southgate is the right man either. Maybe someone like Poyet or somebody who will get them playing football.

I was going to suggest it would be a big step up for him bearing in mind I saw him a fortnight ago coaching his son's Under 11's team but judging by the reports of the Under 21's he's probably better off staying at Beckwithshaw Saints.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Olneythelonely on June 18, 2013, 04:49:09 PM
Personally I like Joe Kinnear. He's like the mad uncle who turns up at Christmas and teaches swear words to the kids

Passing his jokes off as your own? Tut tut. You're like Joe Pasquale.

Are you Graeme Swann?

The legend of spin , and a newcastle fan to boot , I share his view on joe k !
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Ads on June 18, 2013, 04:58:08 PM
Now, now Olney, there is no need to dig out my old mate Easts.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: TheSandman on June 18, 2013, 04:59:11 PM
Personally I like Joe Kinnear. He's like the mad uncle who turns up at Christmas and teaches swear words to the kids

I agree Easts. Wouldn't have him at Villa but I like the amusement he brings to the league.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Olneythelonely on June 18, 2013, 05:00:11 PM
Your right Ado. My apologies to the eastmeister.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on June 18, 2013, 05:27:33 PM
Personally I like Joe Kinnear. He's like the mad uncle who turns up at Christmas and teaches swear words to the kids

I agree Easts. Wouldn't have him at Villa but I like the amusement he brings to the league.
Listening to snippets from the Talk Shite interview sounds like the guy may have some mental health issues - certainly delusions of grandeur.
NUFC could become even more shambolic
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on June 18, 2013, 05:32:49 PM
Personally I like Joe Kinnear. He's like the mad uncle who turns up at Christmas and teaches swear words to the kids

I agree Easts. Wouldn't have him at Villa but I like the amusement he brings to the league.
Listening to snippets from the Talk Shite interview sounds like the guy may have some mental health issues - certainly delusions of grandeur.
NUFC could become even more shambolic

I think it will be interesting thats for sure.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: danno on June 18, 2013, 07:21:01 PM
Pearce out. Southgate in?

Not so sure Southgate is the right man either. Maybe someone like Poyet or somebody who will get them playing football.

I think its typical of the F.A to offer up another bloke as a sacrificial lamb, rather than actually face up to the fact we aren't producing enough top level footballers and then try to do something about it.

Not a fan of Pearce but, if most of our talented under 21's are sat on the benches of the top six, rather than playing first team football then how are we going to improve anyway?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Damo70 on June 18, 2013, 11:25:00 PM
Personally I like Joe Kinnear. He's like the mad uncle who turns up at Christmas and teaches swear words to the kids

Who the f**k are you? What the f**k do you know? Your a c**t. Just like the media and the Newcastle fans. I'm Joe Kinnear (see, I can get names right!) and I know more about football than anybody. I was manager of the year three times and I have won everything there is to win in football. And Alan Pardew is delighted that I have come to help him out.

Obviously his claim to know more about football than anybody is hard to prove or disprove, but I'm a tad sceptical. I'm also a tad sceptical about Pardew's enthusiasm about these developments. As for him winning manager of the year three times, I know he spent time working abroad and may be including that but again, I have my doubts. As for winning everything there is to win in football, I can't be bothered checking that out but I believe he played for Spurs after the double winning year and I'm pretty sure he was never part of a European cup or World cup winning team so I would guess he has won an FA cup, League cup and UEFA cup at the very most. Respectable IF he was part of all three but not quite everything there is to win in football. But as someone else posted, let's just get the coke and popcorn, sit back and be entertained.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: KevinGage on June 18, 2013, 11:40:48 PM
He won Manager of the Year once - and there must have been a real shortage of candidates that year.

Where he got three times from, Gawd only knows.  He must be a bit fried if he thinks he can say these things and people won't actually check.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Damo70 on June 18, 2013, 11:52:03 PM
It's the old three times rule. When talking about your wages or the amount of women you have slept with or how often you have sex on average these days, times by three. When talking with your doctor about how much you smoke or drink, reverse the theory and divide by three.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: JUAN PABLO on June 19, 2013, 01:54:55 AM
(http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb411/lemsta007/joe_zpsf3e85d34.jpg) (http://s1204.photobucket.com/user/lemsta007/media/joe_zpsf3e85d34.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: TaxDodger on June 19, 2013, 06:27:31 AM
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Clampy on June 19, 2013, 08:46:47 AM
I see the fun and games have started at Newcastle. That Lambezee chap has resigned apparantley.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Gerrin on June 19, 2013, 08:55:38 AM
I see the fun and games have started at Newcastle. That Lambezee chap has resigned apparantley.

Definitely has, chaos there, hehe!
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Damo70 on June 19, 2013, 09:31:44 AM
My money wouldn't have been on Llambias going first. I would have thought Carr and/or Pardew. The latter of which, I am very much looking forward to hearing what he has to say.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: SlideruleSid on June 19, 2013, 09:32:48 AM
Wow, it just gets better. Zambezi resigning with immediate effect, just what is going on up there?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: GordonCowansisthegreatest on June 19, 2013, 10:29:16 AM
They already knew that Lambias was going, then they appointed Kinnear to replace him.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: danlanza on June 19, 2013, 10:36:35 AM
Pardew has snubbed Kinnear, according to some early morning rags.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: SlideruleSid on June 19, 2013, 10:41:00 AM
They already knew that Lambias was going, then they appointed Kinnear to replace him.

Is that a guess or is there "word doing the rounds" on that?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: GordonCowansisthegreatest on June 19, 2013, 10:56:54 AM
They already knew that Lambias was going, then they appointed Kinnear to replace him.

Is that a guess or is there "word doing the rounds" on that?

This morning on the Beeb.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: OCD on June 19, 2013, 12:07:10 PM
They already knew that Lambias was going, then they appointed Kinnear to replace him.

Is that a guess or is there "word doing the rounds" on that?

This morning on the Beeb.

It doesn't make sense. One is the Managing Director - dealing with the club's commercial interests and the other is Director of Football - overseeing the scouting network etc. Totally different roles.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: fbriai on June 19, 2013, 12:57:49 PM
They already knew that Lambias was going, then they appointed Kinnear to replace him.

Is that a guess or is there "word doing the rounds" on that?

This morning on the Beeb.

This doesn't tally with what Kinnear said in his TalkSport interview:

Quote from: The Guardian, Joe Kinnear's shambolic interview muddies waters at Newcastle
"Derek explained that I'm coming in as director of football. He [Llambias] is going to go on the finance side and anything to do with football is coming my side."

Full article here (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/jun/18/joe-kinnear-newcastle-united-interview).

That said, a lot of things didn't tally in what he said in that interview.

Either way, it sounds as though the whole thing has caused waves inside the club and they are now trying to spin it as best they can, i.e. Llambias's departure was all foreseen as part of the process. To me, the whole thing looks like though it's a decision that Ashley has made on a whim and beggar the consequences.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: damon loves JT on June 19, 2013, 01:09:58 PM
Ashley is a fan of 'creative tension' among his senior executives. The idea is that it forces them to compete for success. But it sort of falls down if instead of competing, they just leave.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: TheMalandro on June 19, 2013, 01:22:56 PM
BBC headline 'Redknapp gets Sheffield Wednesday in first game'

Unreal. Why do they all suck up to the dumb cockney? He's a motormouth, gobshite.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: paulcomben on June 19, 2013, 06:22:21 PM
BBC headline 'Redknapp gets Sheffield Wednesday in first game'

Unreal. Why do they all suck up to the dumb cockney? He's a motormouth, gobshite.


Everything about the PL fixtures that I have heard today on the BBC begins with David Moyes and Man United. Even though all of the top 3 have changed their manager and there are 3 promoted teams.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: TheSandman on June 19, 2013, 06:23:45 PM
BBC headline 'Redknapp gets Sheffield Wednesday in first game'

Unreal. Why do they all suck up to the dumb cockney? He's a motormouth, gobshite.

Regardless of what you think of him, he's probably the biggest and most recognisable name managing in the Championship. 'Dickov starts at Blackpool' doesn't have the same ring to it.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: damon loves JT on June 19, 2013, 06:44:55 PM
Also, he ought to win the championship title at a canter.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: TheMalandro on June 19, 2013, 07:41:57 PM
BBC headline 'Redknapp gets Sheffield Wednesday in first game'

Unreal. Why do they all suck up to the dumb cockney? He's a motormouth, gobshite.

Regardless of what you think of him, he's probably the biggest and most recognisable name managing in the Championship. 'Dickov starts at Blackpool' doesn't have the same ring to it.

If I supported QPR, I'd prefer ' QPR start at Sheff Wed'
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: TheSandman on June 19, 2013, 08:48:43 PM
I agree and it boiled my piss when we were described as Martinoneillsastonvilla but it is the way it is these days. Similarly, I've seen headlines referring to Moyes having a difficult start. He manages one of the biggest clubs in the game but his name is still used as shorthand for them. Hell, I even see a lot of references to Paullambertsastonvilla lately.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Michel Sibble on June 19, 2013, 08:51:25 PM
Late to the Kinnear talkSHITE mind-melt. The last two minutes are a joy to listen to.


"The all the Newcastle fans who dont like this decision [...], y'know, what do they want? [...]  I can open the door to any manager in the world... some of them talking out their backside, a load of tosh... I 've got more intelligence than them, thats for sure...".



He's either A) intoxicated, B) high, C) not well (a possibility) or D) he's a grade A wonker.

Answers on a postcard to:
Joe Kinnear competiton
c/o Alan Pardew
Sports Direct Arena
Noocastl'
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Chris Jameson on June 19, 2013, 10:52:34 PM
The local BBC news up here is always entertaining whenever anything happens at Newcastle. My favourite tonight was a bloke in his sixties who said "good riddance" to him when asked about Llambias. When asked why he replied "he's a cockney, Newcastle should be Geordies only."
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 19, 2013, 10:55:30 PM
This is quite funny.

Typical out-of-touch-with-reality Geordie, but a few minutes of this and you can see that sense of utter desperation, incredulity and anger that you only really get with football.

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Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 19, 2013, 11:02:47 PM
The problem they have now is that, regardless of whether there's any truth in them, they're going to get swamped by stories like the below.

In terms of non-Aston Villa entertainment, Newcastle could very well take over that mantle from Liverpool. Excellent stuff.

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Newcastle's Derek Llambias quit after Joe Kinnear pulled the plug on Douglas transfer
19 Jun 2013 22:32
New director of football had never heard of FC Twente defender. Who has played in Champions League. And been in Holland squad

Newcastle managing director Derek Llambias quit in a row over a player to become the first victim of Joe Kinnear's controversial reign.

The Mirror can reveal Llambias resigned just hours after being forced to pull the plug on signing FC Twente defender Douglas.

Kinnear, appointed as director of football on Tuesday, claimed he had never heard of the Brazilian player.

Now, the Magpies' highly-respected chief scout Graham Carr could be the next to go.

It is believed Carr is considering his future after being told he must report to Kinnear.

Llambias is understood to have spent months lining up a Bosman-style free transfer for 25-year-old centre-half Douglas, who was linked with Newcastle as far back as last summer, and a deal was in place.

But Llambias - called "Llambezee" by Kinnear in one of the radio interviews carried out to mark the former Toon manager's return to St James' Park in a new role - did a sudden U-turn on Tuesday night and was forced to tell Douglas that the deal was off following Kinnear's intervention.

Kinnear - whose appointment has caused astonishment - sounded out former FC Twente boss Steve McClaren, because he was not aware of Douglas.

This even though the player has been at one of Holland's leading clubs for six years, turning out for them in the Champions League against teams such as Inter Milan and Tottenham and as they reached the last eight of the Europa League in 2010-11.

Hours later, Llambias offered his resignation.

It is clear he did not feel he could carry on working under Kinnear.

Llambias was one of manager Alan Pardew's big supporters and backed him when owner Mike Ashley became concerned last season as Newcastle flirted with relegation.

Carr is Newcastle's ace talent spotter and has been responsible for unearthing some of their most successful signings, but Kinnear has insisted he now is in charge of transfers

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/newcastle-joe-kinnear-drove-derek-1967425
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: OCD on June 19, 2013, 11:06:37 PM
How to screw up something that had been very successful in one foul blow. We might as well take Graham Carr off their hands just to compound things.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Sexual Ealing on June 20, 2013, 01:22:55 AM
This is quite funny.

Typical out-of-touch-with-reality Geordie, but a few minutes of this and you can see that sense of utter desperation, incredulity and anger that you only really get with football.

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Well I'm glad that fat bastard's finally broken his silence on the whole affair.


Who the fuck does he think he is?! He's like Joe Kinnear without the self-awareness. Also, it sounds very much like he has listened to it before.

Then again, I'm the twat who's watching it at 2am.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Ads on June 20, 2013, 08:56:33 AM
His anger is genuine and there is something quite funny about a Geordie swearing.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Damo70 on June 20, 2013, 10:56:15 AM
Forget Cloughie, Fergie and 'The Special One'. It's Joe Kinnear quotes, interviews and press conferences I can't get enough of. How have the noses never found a role for him?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Dr Butler on June 20, 2013, 11:03:32 AM
Forget Cloughie, Fergie and 'The Special One'. It's Joe Kinnear quotes, interviews and press conferences I can't get enough of. How have the noses never found a role for him?

can't afford him....what with all that football experience and knowledge..
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: john e on June 20, 2013, 11:12:12 AM
all those names Kinnear got wrong, its like a well rehersed two Ronnies sketch,

its virtually perfect, the different names are so spot on you think he might have been practising them for a while, but this would mean we would be giving him credit for having a genius comedy brain, which he doesn't have so he must be just a big twat who doesn't know what he's talking about,

 but it does make you wonder
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Irish villain on June 20, 2013, 11:57:12 AM
I do wonder if maybe Kinnear has always deliberately got players' names wrong? Maybe it is a method of asserting his authority?

Charles Insomnia is too good to have been an accident? Maybe I am being too kind to him..

The 'water of a duck's arse' comment convinced me he was pissed.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: timeoutbigbar on June 20, 2013, 12:10:19 PM
Late to the Kinnear talkSHITE mind-melt. The last two minutes are a joy to listen to.


"The all the Newcastle fans who dont like this decision [...], y'know, what do they want? [...]  I can open the door to any manager in the world... some of them talking out their backside, a load of tosh... I 've got more intelligence than them, thats for sure...".



He's either A) intoxicated, B) high, C) not well (a possibility) or D) he's a grade A wonker.

Answers on a postcard to:
Joe Kinnear competiton
c/o Alan Pardew
Sports Direct Arena
Noocastl'

Did he try and claim he wasn't being arrogant earlier in the interview and then go on to (comically wrongly) list names of players he had sold at a profit and managers he could pick up the phone to.

I vote A, B, C and D.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: fbriai on June 20, 2013, 12:27:24 PM
Shearer's really put the boot in: 'Sickened' Alan Shearer says Alan Pardew is being undermined (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22982306) (from the BBC)
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Dante Lavelli on June 20, 2013, 01:02:13 PM
With Spurs continually being linked with Benteke, the PSG appointment could be an interesting one. 
If the press are correct Capello has turned the job down and AVB was previously considered a target so it'd be nice if he left Spurs as any new manager would hopefully not want Benteke (although I'm not sure what say spurs' manager has over transfers).

On that note Baldini - just appointed DoF (or something like that) - at Spurs.  Any ideas whether Benteke would be on his radar?  I'd be surprsied if he is moreso than an Italian equivalent, which again makes the probability of a spurs move less likely.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: OCD on June 20, 2013, 01:50:57 PM
When did Spurs last pay £30-40m? They don't strike me as big spenders. Their Chairman is far too tight with their money (you would love to have him negotiating on your behalf but would hate dealing with him). They always leave their big signings to the end of the window too - in which case, we just reject anything and get past the deadline. Maybe Benteke would throw a hizzy but he would have to come round pretty sharpish or get left out and start risking his World Cup spot.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Ron Manager on June 20, 2013, 09:25:06 PM
Ashley is a fan of 'creative tension' among his senior executives. The idea is that it forces them to compete for success. But it sort of falls down if instead of competing, they just leave.

Joe wouldnt understand 'creative tension' as a concept. Come to think of it neither do I.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: damon loves JT on June 20, 2013, 09:35:10 PM
It's management speak for 'divide and rule'
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 20, 2013, 10:32:25 PM
It's all go up in Scotland.

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A bar dedicated to Alan Shearer at Newcastle United's St James' Park is to be renamed after its popularity "dwindled", the club has said.

Shearer's Bar, which opened in 2004, will be re-launched next month as Nine.

The news followed reports Shearer was "sickened" by events at the club, for which he played 404 games in 10 years.

Director John Irving said the new name was "in keeping with the club's history" and claimed Shearer was "appreciative" of the plans.

The former England captain scored 206 goals for the Magpies and later managed the club in 2009, leading them to relegation from the Premier League.

He has told The Sun he thought United manager Alan Pardew's position had been undermined after a restructure.

Managing director Derek Llambias resigned on Wednesday days after Joe Kinnear was appointed as director of football.

Mr Irving said a transformation of the bar would open it up to a "wider range of visitors".

"We have liaised directly with Alan to keep him abreast of the plans, which has been appreciative of, and we're looking forward to launching Nine next month," he said.

The club is planning to raise funds for the former England captain's charity foundation at the opening event.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: OCD on June 20, 2013, 10:36:56 PM
It's almost worth giving Newcastle their own thread. It's like a soap opera.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: danno on June 21, 2013, 12:22:30 AM
What a load of guff, if the beer was reasonable priced, the bar could be named after Barry Venison and be packed out.
If anything its probably dwindled in popularity as a result of some sort of boycott against Mike Ashley.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 21, 2013, 12:47:43 AM
Apparently the reason they are changing it is because Joe Kinnear kept calling it the Anal Sharer bar.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Toronto Villa on June 21, 2013, 02:45:28 AM
Apparently the reason they are changing it is because Joe Kinnear kept calling it the Anal Sharer bar.

 ;D
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on June 21, 2013, 04:47:25 AM
It's almost worth giving Newcastle their own thread. It's like a soap opera.

I enjoy laughing at Newcastle. I dont regard them as rivals or anything as important as that , but they are amusing. A clown club that keeps hitting itself in the face, it amuses me.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on June 21, 2013, 08:30:42 AM
Joe Kinnear has been brought to Newcastle United to bang heads together and end a feud between manager Alan Pardew and his chief scout, Graham Carr.

Pardew and Carr have been at odds for months, and there have been disagreements over the Magpies' past and future signings.

Now Kinnear, a man ironically renowned for his confrontational style and ability to divide opinion, has been parachuted into the internal battle as all-powerful referee and peace-maker.

The Geordies' owner, sportswear tycoon Mike Ashley, wanted to introduce a trusted outside figure in a bid to snuff out the damaging power struggle.

Pardew has complained that some of the players landed by Carr have not been good enough - a view the latter hotly disputes.

For example, midfielder Vurnon Anita was signed for £5.6million from Ajax last summer, but has not been trusted with a long run in the side.

 

There has also been doubt about the best position for France international Moussa Sissoko.

He has been played as an attacking midfielder or on the right wing, but could be more influential as a holding midfielder.

Carr has championed the policy of buying up young, foreign talent, but Pardew now wants to balance that with a couple of experienced new stars.

Success stories from Carr's approach include bargain signings Hatem Ben Arfa and Yohan Cabaye, who were bought for a combined £11m.

But with 10 players in his squad for whom French is the first language, Pardew has argued he wants more English speakers with top flight experience to balance the dressing room dynamic and end communication issues.

The stand-off between manager and chief scout led to a breakdown in relations towards the end of last season, with the pair said by an insider who had observed the dynamics to be “stabbing each other in the back.”

 

The rift put Ashley in a difficult position as both Pardew and Carr are in the first 12 months of eight-year contracts.

Ashley’s disgust at the way Newcastle plunged from fifth-place finishers in 2012 to relegation contenders resulted in his decision to bring in trusted drinking-buddy Kinnear as his eyes and ears at the training ground.

The 66-year-old is tasked with reporting directly to Ashley and providing his own take on events.

A Toon insider explained: “Carr and Pardew are at daggers drawn. Carr says that the players he has brought in are good enough, Pardew says they are not.

“Kinnear has been brought in as a trouble-shooter, as Ashley does not know what to do - he doesn’t know who is right or who is wrong.

“Kinnear has been brought in to do Ashley’s dirty work.



“There is a stand-off between Carr and Pardew. There was hardly any communication between them towards the end of last season and there is little now.

“Both are on massive contracts. Carr is stabbing Pardew in the back, and vice versa.

“It is a horrible situation. The internal wranglings and politics at the club is frightening. I’ve never seen or known a situation as intense or as bad as this.”
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Dante Lavelli on June 21, 2013, 08:59:47 AM
From the BBC gossip page:  "Brighton will target Tottenham coach Tim Sherwood if Gus Poyet, currently suspended by the Championship club, leaves the Seagulls"

What is Poyet supposed to have done?  And surely they've burnt their bridges now that he's been suspended.  It all seens very odd.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Ron Manager on June 21, 2013, 09:07:43 AM
It seems Joe has been brought in as a peacemaker.....Joe!.  Alan Pardew or Graham Carr will be leaving very soon. As Kinnear probably wants the managers job Pardew is the favorite to close the door behind him.

All those French boys must wonder what the hell is going on.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: SamTheMouse on June 21, 2013, 10:40:36 AM
It seems Joe has been brought in as a peacemaker.....Joe!.  Alan Pardew or Graham Carr will be leaving very soon. As Kinnear probably wants the managers job Pardew is the favorite to close the door behind him.

All those French boys must wonder what the hell is going on.

Internecine backstabbing is practically a French invention. They'll be right at home.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: danlanza on June 21, 2013, 10:42:27 AM
Sacre bleu, as they say in Geordie land.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Damo70 on June 21, 2013, 12:27:40 PM
So Joe has been brought in to act as a middle man between Pardew and Carr. That is a good way to solve a two way argument. Throw in a gobby know all to turn it into a three way argument.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: jonzy85 on June 21, 2013, 12:33:19 PM
They have to be serious relegation candidates as things stand. They may sign a few quality players before the season starts, but with the mess going on off the pitch, you wouldn't want to back them. Also, assuming Pardew does go, it's difficult to see who would want to go in there as things stand.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: fbriai on June 21, 2013, 12:52:40 PM
I think that if Pardew does go then they have someone already in there who wants to take over.

It really looks as though they want to get rid of Pardew, but don't want to pay the severance fee.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on June 21, 2013, 12:56:51 PM
They have to be serious relegation candidates as things stand. They may sign a few quality players before the season starts, but with the mess going on off the pitch, you wouldn't want to back them. Also, assuming Pardew does go, it's difficult to see who would want to go in there as things stand.

Enter mr Dennis wise.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on June 21, 2013, 12:59:01 PM
They have to be serious relegation candidates as things stand. They may sign a few quality players before the season starts, but with the mess going on off the pitch, you wouldn't want to back them. Also, assuming Pardew does go, it's difficult to see who would want to go in there as things stand.

Enter mr Dennis wise.

I would love it...
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: rob_bridge on June 21, 2013, 01:13:33 PM
They have to be serious relegation candidates as things stand. They may sign a few quality players before the season starts, but with the mess going on off the pitch, you wouldn't want to back them. Also, assuming Pardew does go, it's difficult to see who would want to go in there as things stand.

Enter mr Dennis wise.

I would love it...

Better still - nick Kenny Jackett from the Dogheads who can then replace him with Oh Eck
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Toronto Villa on June 21, 2013, 01:46:38 PM
So Joe has been brought in to act as a middle man between Pardew and Carr. That is a good way to solve a two way argument. Throw in a gobby know all to turn it into a three way argument.

It's like introducing a hyena to mediate between two feuding gazelles.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: not3bad on June 21, 2013, 02:27:37 PM
They have to be serious relegation candidates as things stand. They may sign a few quality players before the season starts, but with the mess going on off the pitch, you wouldn't want to back them. Also, assuming Pardew does go, it's difficult to see who would want to go in there as things stand.

Enter mr Dennis wise.

I would love it...

Better still - nick Kenny Jackett from the Dogheads who can then replace him with Oh Eck

Or just hire Oh Eck for the Geordies!

Joe Kinnear and Alex Mcleish - liquid football!
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: richard moore on June 21, 2013, 02:56:25 PM
So Joe has been brought in to act as a middle man between Pardew and Carr. That is a good way to solve a two way argument. Throw in a gobby know all to turn it into a three way argument.

It's like introducing a hyena to mediate between two feuding gazelles.

Snigger. That made me giggle TV...
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: richard moore on June 21, 2013, 02:59:04 PM
They have to be serious relegation candidates as things stand. They may sign a few quality players before the season starts, but with the mess going on off the pitch, you wouldn't want to back them. Also, assuming Pardew does go, it's difficult to see who would want to go in there as things stand.

Enter mr Dennis wise.

Or better still, our very own pubehead, they'd love him there...
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: not3bad on June 21, 2013, 03:27:40 PM
They have to be serious relegation candidates as things stand. They may sign a few quality players before the season starts, but with the mess going on off the pitch, you wouldn't want to back them. Also, assuming Pardew does go, it's difficult to see who would want to go in there as things stand.

Enter mr Dennis wise.

Or better still, our very own pubehead, they'd love him there...

Having just been to Sunderland!  *Praying emoticon*
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on June 23, 2013, 07:37:54 AM
Mike Ashley will bring in Gus Poyet if Alan Pardew decides he can take no more of Joe Kinnear at Newcastle, writes Alan Oliver of the Sunday People .

Owner Ashley enraged Toon fans by appointing Kinnear as director of football over manager Pardew’s head.

But that will be a minor tremor compared to the shockwaves caused by the arrival of Poyet, still in dispute with former club Brighton.

Poyet is close pals with Dennis Wise, who is still a hated figure on Tyneside after his time as the club’s director of football.

The Uruguayan was assistant manager to Wise at both Swindon and Leeds – and fans will fear Wise’s return is imminent if Poyet gets Ashley’s nod.

Ashley has ridden roughshod over the feelings of the Toon faithful by bringing Kinnear back so he would almost certainly not worry about installing Wise again.

 

Pardew, one year into an eight-year contract, has said he is going nowhere, but the breakdown of relations with chief scout Graham Carr has weakened him.

Ashley rates Carr highly and would sooner keep him than Pardew, whose position was further hurt by the departure this week of his ally Derek Llambias.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: *shellac* on June 23, 2013, 07:49:57 AM
Pardew won't last until end August.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: villa kicks on June 23, 2013, 04:33:08 PM
1st Premier League Manager To Leave

Alan Pardew Newcastle United 7/4

Michael Laudrup Swansea City 10/3

Andre Villas-Boas Tottenham Hotspur 6/1

Martin Jol Fulham 12/1

Paolo Di Canio Sunderland 18/1

Chris Hughton Norwich City 20/1

Mark Hughes 33/1

Steve Bruce Hull City 33/1

Steve Clarke West Brom 33/1

Roberto Martinez Everton 50/1

Mauricio Pochettino Southampton 33/1

Sam Allardyce West Ham United 40/1

Brendan Rodgers Liverpool 40/1

Malky Mackay Cardiff City 40/1

Ian Holloway Crystal Palace 40/1

Manuel Pellegrini Manchester City 50/1

Paul Lambert Aston Villa 50/1

Roberto Martinez Everton 50/1

Jose Mourinho Chelsea 66/1

Arsene Wenger Arsenal 66/1

David Moyes Manchester United s66/1
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: LeeB on June 23, 2013, 05:02:02 PM
It's nice to see our manager at the other end of that scale for a change.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: SamTheMouse on June 23, 2013, 05:13:44 PM
Quote
Enter mr Dennis wise.

...is the worst porn film ever.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: N'ZMAV on June 23, 2013, 05:19:18 PM
Martinez on that list twice,
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: richard moore on June 23, 2013, 05:40:27 PM
I'd have Di Canio far further up that list I think
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: SoccerHQ on June 23, 2013, 06:25:45 PM
Given the trend of promoted clubs with foreign owners to pitch their managers pretty quickly once they start losing every week, McKay at 40s at Cardiff looks a decent long shot.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: The Man With A Stick on June 23, 2013, 08:57:39 PM
Poyet sacked by Brighton, while he's doing a punditry shift on the Nigeria - Spain match.  Very awkward!
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: garyshawsknee on June 23, 2013, 09:00:01 PM
Yeah that was an eggy moment.

Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: CJ on June 23, 2013, 09:00:21 PM
Being dumped by text must be bad enough, but to be told by a Beeb pundit has to take the biscuit
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: SoccerHQ on June 23, 2013, 09:02:01 PM
He's been doing other BBC games. Must admit I've been surprised he's been on the t.v given the uncertainty before tonight over his Brighton future.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Dante Lavelli on June 23, 2013, 09:58:42 PM
What exactly is he meant to have done wrong?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Villa in Denmark on June 23, 2013, 10:16:08 PM
Being dumped by text must be bad enough, but to be told by a Beeb pundit has to take the biscuit

Kent Nielsen was effectively sacked live on TV as Brøndby manager 3 years ago after they'd lost to newly promoted (and soon to be relegated HB Køge)
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: olaftab on June 23, 2013, 11:43:25 PM
Did I hear this right that Tony Adams thinks he should have been appointed Chair at Arsenal board after Hill-Wood left?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Toronto Villa on June 24, 2013, 02:08:47 AM
Did I hear this right that Tony Adams thinks he should have been appointed Chair at Arsenal board after Hill-Wood left?

He thought he could do the job the drunk, deluded ringpiece
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: mr underhill on June 24, 2013, 05:56:54 AM
don't hold back on this assessment, just say what you mean
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eamonn on June 24, 2013, 11:52:23 AM
Being dumped by text must be bad enough, but to be told by a Beeb pundit has to take the biscuit

Kent Nielsen was effectively sacked live on TV as Brøndby manager 3 tests ago after they'd lost to newly promoted (and soon to be relegated HB Køge)

Tests? Do Dansks even know of cricket?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Lizz on June 24, 2013, 12:07:16 PM
Did I hear this right that Tony Adams thinks he should have been appointed Chair at Arsenal board after Hill-Wood left?

He thought he could do the job the drunk, deluded ringpiece

That was one of the most delusional interviews I've ever heard.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Dante Lavelli on June 24, 2013, 01:33:40 PM
A pretty crap bit of ITK here, but Uve Rossler is likely to be the next Brighton manager.
Turns out a chap at works lives with someone who is representing Brighton in this whole fiasco.  Apparently the sacking was lined up months ago and interviews already arranged.

You heard it here first etc etc, unless it's also on twitter, or somewhere else.

Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: damon loves JT on June 24, 2013, 02:00:51 PM
No, that's not crap, that's pretty good stuff.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Chris Jameson on June 24, 2013, 02:54:31 PM
Not strictly an ITK but Tony Adams really is a massive bell end.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Dr Butler on June 24, 2013, 02:57:30 PM
Not strictly an ITK but Tony Adams really is a massive bell end.

indeed....and was he "managing" in Iran ? or was it Afghanistan ??   lots of pedigree there.

 I always thought he was a twat even when he was playing...
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Villa in Denmark on June 24, 2013, 03:40:54 PM
Being dumped by text must be bad enough, but to be told by a Beeb pundit has to take the biscuit

Kent Nielsen was effectively sacked live on TV as Brøndby manager 3 tests ago after they'd lost to newly promoted (and soon to be relegated HB Køge)

Tests? Do Dansks even know of cricket?

How the hell years got to autocorrected to tests I don't know.  Thanks HTC, another entry for little things that make life oh so f/&%¤ing annoying thread coming up :).

Re do the Danes know about cricket - have you ever tried explaining the concept of a game that lasts up to 5 days, and some of the most exciting games have been those that end in a draw after 5 days.  :o ???  :o
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: ozzjim on June 24, 2013, 06:58:11 PM
Andrew Flintoff tried to J-Lo on Graham Norton a couple of weeks back. Priceless.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: TheSandman on June 24, 2013, 07:52:50 PM
Did I hear this right that Tony Adams thinks he should have been appointed Chair at Arsenal board after Hill-Wood left?

He thought he could do the job the drunk, deluded ringpiece

That was one of the most delusional interviews I've ever heard.

Not as bad as the one where he claimed to have been given the Celtic job. I think he has problems he needs to resolve.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: robbyfvillain on June 24, 2013, 09:23:21 PM
Being dumped by text must be bad enough, but to be told by a Beeb pundit has to take the biscuit

Kent Nielsen was effectively sacked live on TV as Brøndby manager 3 tests ago after they'd lost to newly promoted (and soon to be relegated HB Køge)

Tests? Do Dansks even know of cricket?

How the hell years got to autocorrected to tests I don't know.  Thanks HTC, another entry for little things that make life oh so f/&%¤ing annoying thread coming up :).

Re do the Danes know about cricket - have you ever tried explaining the concept of a game that lasts up to 5 days, and some of the most exciting games have been those that end in a draw after 5 days.  :o ???  :o

You have two sides, one out in the field and one in. Each man that's in the side that's in goes out, and when he's out he comes in and the next man goes in until he's out. When they are all out, the side that's out comes in and the side thats been in goes out and tries to get those coming in, out. Sometimes you get men still in and not out.

When a man goes out to go in, the men who are out try to get him out, and when he is out he goes in and the next man in goes out and goes in. There are two men called umpires who stay all out all the time and they decide when the men who are in are out. When both sides have been in and all the men have been out, and both sides have been out twice after all the men have been in, including those who are not out, that is the end of the game!
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: damon loves JT on June 24, 2013, 09:55:41 PM
Tony Adams is one of those people, like Jim Davidson, who seem to have even more problems after they stop drinking.

Also, no Arsenal supporter will even countenance the possibility that any defender has ever been as good as Tony Adams. I'm sure he doesn't believe it himself, but I'm so sick of hearing it that I ended up disliking him just for that reason.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Chris Jameson on June 24, 2013, 10:54:33 PM
His attempt to reinvent himself as a piano playing, poetry loving intellectual was very funny although I suspect it was a very public breakdown or huge PR stunt particularly when he was stepping out with Caprice. Or possibly a mid life crisis.

Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 24, 2013, 10:58:38 PM
Not strictly an ITK but Tony Adams really is a massive bell end.

Are you raising that point based on that snippet Sky Sports News were running last night?

I saw that and thought to myself, "Christ, Tony Adams is still a massive bell end". That stuff about how Peter Hill Wood has stepped down and now Arsenal could replace him with him maybe, and how he could play a role in advising them on a new manager when Wenger goes.

It was incredibly deluded stuff. Let's not forget, either, him talking last year about how he'd like to get back into management but "why do it at a place like Aston Villa, what can you achieve there?"- this from a man last seen managing a club in Azerbaijan.

He really is a self-regarding cocksocket.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: ozzjim on June 25, 2013, 07:25:53 AM
Not strictly an ITK but Tony Adams really is a massive bell end.

Are you raising that point based on that snippet Sky Sports News were running last night?

I saw that and thought to myself, "Christ, Tony Adams is still a massive bell end". That stuff about how Peter Hill Wood has stepped down and now Arsenal could replace him with him maybe, and how he could play a role in advising them on a new manager when Wenger goes.

It was incredibly deluded stuff. Let's not forget, either, him talking last year about how he'd like to get back into management but "why do it at a place like Aston Villa, what can you achieve there?"- this from a man last seen managing a club in Azerbaijan.

He really is a self-regarding cocksocket.

When he speaks, you can hear journos thinking cheap story coming up as this guy cannot open his mouth without saying something monumentally idiotic about his own self importance.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Toronto Villa on June 25, 2013, 08:51:18 AM
Regarding other managers I thought it was hugely impressive that Pep Guardiola gave his opening press conference at Bayern in fluent German. He was really humble in paying tribute to the previous manager. If you are going to make an impression in a foreign country learning the language goes a long way to it being a positive one.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Damo70 on June 25, 2013, 08:56:24 AM
Wasn't Tony Adams' Villa comment aimed at both us and Swansea when we were both looking for a manager last summer? He suggested he wouldn't be interested in either job. Neither us or Swansea appeared to be interested in him either. He said he would manage Arsenal though. Obviously, he has now raised his ambitions to the chairman role. Not big on working his way up is he?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: damon loves JT on June 25, 2013, 09:03:34 AM
And there you have the gulf between the game played in Spain and Germany, and football in England. They have Pep Guardiola; we have Tony Adams.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Dr Butler on June 25, 2013, 09:16:39 AM
And there you have the gulf between the game played in Spain and Germany, and football in England. They have Pep Guardiola; we have Tony Adams.

and Joe Kinnear.....
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Chris Jameson on June 25, 2013, 11:23:52 AM
Not strictly an ITK but Tony Adams really is a massive bell end.

Are you raising that point based on that snippet Sky Sports News were running last night?

I saw that and thought to myself, "Christ, Tony Adams is still a massive bell end". That stuff about how Peter Hill Wood has stepped down and now Arsenal could replace him with him maybe, and how he could play a role in advising them on a new manager when Wenger goes.

It was incredibly deluded stuff. Let's not forget, either, him talking last year about how he'd like to get back into management but "why do it at a place like Aston Villa, what can you achieve there?"- this from a man last seen managing a club in Azerbaijan.

He really is a self-regarding cocksocket.

Fortunately I don't have SKY so am fairly oblivious to anything he says these days but a few years ago when he attempted to reinvent himself as some kind of intellectual and was doing the rounds on the chat shows he merely confirmed what a delusional bell end he is.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: damon loves JT on June 25, 2013, 04:44:43 PM
I think plenty of that was to do with Caprice. She seems to see herself as some kind of image guru.

He is just a bit thick and impressionable.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on June 25, 2013, 05:04:33 PM
Ancelotti takes over at Real Madrid with Laurent blanc taking the psg job.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: adrenachrome on June 25, 2013, 06:14:37 PM
Tony Adams is one of those people, like Jim Davidson, who seem to have even more problems after they stop drinking.

Also, no Arsenal supporter will even countenance the possibility that any defender has ever been as good as Tony Adams. I'm sure he doesn't believe it himself, but I'm so sick of hearing it that I ended up disliking him just for that reason.

It used to be great fun doing those donkey braying sounds, though.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Damo70 on June 25, 2013, 09:14:04 PM
I think plenty of that was to do with Caprice. She seems to see herself as some kind of image guru.

He is just a bit thick and impressionable.
That's the thing with women. They always want to change blokes. There you are, quite happy as an alcoholic, crashing cars, throwing up and wetting the bed. Then they want you to stop drinking, learn the piano and write poetry. Funny creatures.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Dante Lavelli on June 26, 2013, 08:14:45 AM
I think plenty of that was to do with Caprice. She seems to see herself as some kind of image guru.

He is just a bit thick and impressionable.
That's the thing with women. They always want to change blokes. There you are, quite happy as an alcoholic, crashing cars, throwing up and wetting the bed. Then they want you to stop drinking, learn the piano and write poetry. Funny creatures.

Well done.  You made mw chuckle at 8 in the morning.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Damo70 on June 27, 2013, 01:59:38 PM
I can't be sure, because it is a gradual thing and he was a misery arse to begin with, but Lee Clark appears to be just a little bit more downbeat with every interview.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Percy McCarthy on June 27, 2013, 02:04:40 PM
I can't be sure, because it is a gradual thing and he was a misery arse to begin with, but Lee Clark appears to be just a little bit more downbeat with every interview.

He talks like a 12 year-old desperately trying to sound intelligent. And failing.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Damo70 on June 27, 2013, 02:14:09 PM
When attempting some long words he is prone to some amusing George W. Bush style 'miscommunifications'.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Clampy on June 27, 2013, 03:26:02 PM
I can't be sure, because it is a gradual thing and he was a misery arse to begin with, but Lee Clark appears to be just a little bit more downbeat with every interview.

He talks like a 12 year-old desperately trying to sound intelligent. And failing.

I don't mind him that much actually. They've had more annoying manager's down there.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on June 27, 2013, 03:50:26 PM
I can't be sure, because it is a gradual thing and he was a misery arse to begin with, but Lee Clark appears to be just a little bit more downbeat with every interview.

He talks like a 12 year-old desperately trying to sound intelligent. And failing.

I don't mind him that much actually. They've had more annoying manager's down there.

Barry fry was my favourite one - always good for a laugh .
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: damon loves JT on June 27, 2013, 09:37:45 PM
Pendrey was my favourite. He was awesomely bad.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 27, 2013, 11:32:29 PM
I just accidentally thought of Terry Cooper.

Ha ha ha, genuine tears of laughter.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 27, 2013, 11:32:52 PM
Ha ha ha ha, Lou Macari.

Aaah, fucking hell. Ha ha ha.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 27, 2013, 11:34:08 PM
Dave Mackay. He won the league once.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 27, 2013, 11:35:17 PM
Dave Mackay. He won the league once.

And did an ace Bremner threatening.

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/01/06/article-1241178-0007DBD700000258-200_468x286.jpg)
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: damon loves JT on June 27, 2013, 11:37:38 PM
I just accidentally thought of Terry Cooper.

Ha ha ha, genuine tears of laughter.

Oh gosh, me too. My chest hurts now
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Damo70 on June 27, 2013, 11:54:37 PM
Ron Saunders - won the league with Villa then got them relegated

John Bond - got them relegated then they treated him like he wouldn't treat a dog

Garry Pendrey - lost 13-0 to the Villa in a couple of weeks, but we didn't bother having commemorative mirrors made and put up in pubs to celebrate.

Dave Mackay -won the league with Derby then got them relegated

Lou Macari - won cup*, fucked off at first opportunity. Not stupid

Terry Cooper - bought his son and had a breakdown

Barry Fry - I haven't got the time and this thread hasn't got the space. And that is just his strikers I'm talking about. Oh, won cup*

Trev - same as Baz, not enough time and space to even talk about his play off defeats. Didn't win cup.

Brucie - Did well, they weren't grateful, fucked off, not stupid.

Censored

Chrissy Hughton - Did relatively well, fucked off at first opportunity, not stupid.

Lee - I like him. Miserable, but so would I be.

*Yeh, cup. Sort of.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 27, 2013, 11:56:45 PM
Ron Saunders - won the league with Villa then got them relegated

John Bond - got them relegated then they treated him like he wouldn't treat a dog

Garry Pendrey - lost 13-0 to the Villa in a couple of weeks, but we didn't bother having commemorative mirrors made and put up in pubs to celebrate.

Dave Mackay -won the league with Derby then got them relegated

Lou Macari - won cup*, fucked off at first opportunity. Not stupid

Terry Cooper - bought his son and had a breakdown

Barry Fry - I haven't got the time and this thread hasn't got the space. And that is just his strikers I'm talking about. Oh, won cup*

Trev - same as Baz, not enough time and space to even talk about his play off defeats. Didn't win cup.

Brucie - Did well, they weren't grateful, fucked off, not stupid.

Censored

Chrissy Hughton - Did relatively well, fucked off at first opportunity, not stupid.

Lee - I like him. Miserable, but so would I be.

*Yeh, cup. Sort of.

Take a bow son.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Dave Cooper please on June 28, 2013, 12:25:17 AM
I just accidentally thought of Terry Cooper.

Ha ha ha, genuine tears of laughter.

Oh gosh, me too. My chest hurts now

Shit Damon you okay?

Damon?  DAMON??????

Damon.....

Goes to Celebrity Deathwatch thread.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: damon loves JT on June 28, 2013, 06:53:28 AM
It's ok, the night staff at the Copthorne Hotel have held an all night vigil for me, smoking fags in the bin store. I am sitting up and trying to open my eyes
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Percy McCarthy on June 28, 2013, 07:17:41 AM
Pendrey was my favourite. He was awesomely bad.

He caught me absconding with a 6-foot b-lose badge that I'd nicked off the wall of the Trevor Francis suite. I promised to put it back but I lied.

It now resides on the wall of a flat that belongs to a bloke doing 9 years for cocaine dealing. If it could type it could post twice on the 'Living In A Shithole' thread and win hands down.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: claretandbeer on June 29, 2013, 04:50:27 PM
Ron Saunders - won the league with Villa then got them relegated

John Bond - got them relegated then they treated him like he wouldn't treat a dog

Garry Pendrey - lost 13-0 to the Villa in a couple of weeks, but we didn't bother having commemorative mirrors made and put up in pubs to celebrate.

Dave Mackay -won the league with Derby then got them relegated

Lou Macari - won cup*, fucked off at first opportunity. Not stupid

Terry Cooper - bought his son and had a breakdown

Barry Fry - I haven't got the time and this thread hasn't got the space. And that is just his strikers I'm talking about. Oh, won cup*

Trev - same as Baz, not enough time and space to even talk about his play off defeats. Didn't win cup.

Brucie - Did well, they weren't grateful, fucked off, not stupid.

Censored

Chrissy Hughton - Did relatively well, fucked off at first opportunity, not stupid.

Lee - I like him. Miserable, but so would I be.

*Yeh, cup. Sort of.
And also Sir Alf,fancy inflicting that on a manager who won the League with the most unfancied side ever and a World Cup winner.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: kipeye on June 29, 2013, 04:52:53 PM
Pendrey was my favourite. He was awesomely bad.

He caught me absconding with a 6-foot b-lose badge that I'd nicked off the wall of the Trevor Francis suite. I promised to put it back but I lied.

It now resides on the wall of a flat that belongs to a bloke doing 9 years for cocaine dealing. If it could type it could post twice on the 'Living In A Shithole' thread and win hands down.
:)
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Damo70 on July 01, 2013, 11:05:31 AM
The appointment of Pendrey summed them up at time. Grew up a bluenose, assistant manager of Walsall and played for them. My mate might be their next manager. Grew up a bluenose, manages a betting shop but has coaching badges, plays five a side in a blues shirt.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: evalast1910 on July 01, 2013, 11:16:30 AM
The appointment of Pendrey summed them up at time. Grew up a bluenose, assistant manager of Walsall and played for them. My mate might be their next manager. Grew up a bluenose, manages a betting shop but has coaching badges, plays five a side in a blues shirt.

That's actually wrong Gary is my dad's cousin and he use to tell me Gary grew up a Villa fan; and to the best of his knowledge (before he died) that he still was a Villa fan.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on July 01, 2013, 11:19:24 AM
The appointment of Pendrey summed them up at time. Grew up a bluenose, assistant manager of Walsall and played for them. My mate might be their next manager. Grew up a bluenose, manages a betting shop but has coaching badges, plays five a side in a blues shirt.



That's actually wrong Gary is my dad's cousin and he use to tell me Gary grew up a Villa fan; and to the best of his knowledge (before he died) that he still was a Villa fan.

Gary pendrey is and always has been a villa fan ? I am surprised if correct - and it would explain why he was so shit at blues ;)
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: SteveN on July 01, 2013, 11:27:08 AM
The appointment of Pendrey summed them up at time. Grew up a bluenose, assistant manager of Walsall and played for them. My mate might be their next manager. Grew up a bluenose, manages a betting shop but has coaching badges, plays five a side in a blues shirt.

That's actually wrong Gary is my dad's cousin and he use to tell me Gary grew up a Villa fan; and to the best of his knowledge (before he died) that he still was a Villa fan.

I'm pretty sure he was at Handsworth Tech the year above me and good friends with a mate of mine and was indeed one of us.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Damo70 on July 01, 2013, 11:31:44 AM
If he went on to any kind of further education after school, that would support the argument of him being one of us as opposed to them. Although I did know a bluenose who I went to school with who trained as a welder and once told me in The Barlow Mow in Solihull he had won a 'welder of the year' award. That sounds like something I made up, but that really did happen.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: damon loves JT on July 01, 2013, 12:52:50 PM
'Welder of the Year'?

Did they have an open-top bus parade?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Bren'd on July 01, 2013, 01:54:05 PM
If he went on to any kind of further education after school, that would support the argument of him being one of us as opposed to them. Although I did know a bluenose who I went to school with who trained as a welder and once told me in The Barlow Mow in Solihull he had won a 'welder of the year' award. That sounds like something I made up, but that really did happen.

I'm sure it did.  It would be good if he had stated which welding discipline he had excelled in though.  For the record, Gas is far more difficult than Arc.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Damo70 on July 01, 2013, 04:27:28 PM
Surely to be welder of the year you would have to be proficient in all disciplines? I was surprised enough they had a welder of the year. To find out there were several categories would surprise me even more.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Bren'd on July 01, 2013, 05:05:45 PM
Tungsten Inert Gas (TIG) welding is tricky. And certainly far to tricky for a nose.  I doubt they would have let him anywhere near it.

You'd be surprised what they had and still have 'of the year'.  I'm looking at a particular trade journal at the moment where one of the awards is Road 'Marking Project of the Year'. The company who won it for 2012 were given it for -A38 Tamar Bridge Illuminated Road Stud Project.  I'm sure it was an honour and privilege to win such a prestigious award and I bet a lot of people were thanked in making it all possible. 
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: PaulWinch again on July 02, 2013, 11:47:39 AM
Every time Joe Kinnear opens his mouth you wonder if it's a spoof or if he is genuinely mentally unhinged.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Eckybloke on July 02, 2013, 12:48:38 PM
Every time Joe Kinnear opens his mouth you wonder if it's a spoof or if he is genuinely mentally unhinged.

It's got to be some sort of Larry David-esque effort surely?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 02, 2013, 01:18:10 PM
When I think of Mike Ashley and Joe Kinnear having a conversation you wonder if they ever get anything done between all of the pints, fucks and cants being thrown about.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: UK Redsox on July 02, 2013, 01:26:16 PM
Every time Joe Kinnear opens his mouth you wonder if it's a spoof or if he is genuinely mentally unhinged.


Another Joe after a "Head and Shoulders" advert ? (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/newcastle-united/10154457/Joe-Kinnear-angers-Newcastle-fans-again-with-incoherent-interview-saying-Im-head-and-shoulders-above-the-rest.html)

Quote
In an interview with the Shields Gazette Kinnear insisted he is “head and shoulders” above any other Director of Football in the country because of his vast experience as a player and a manager.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Chris Harte on July 02, 2013, 01:35:49 PM
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In an interview with the Shields Gazette Kinnear insisted he is “head and shoulders” above any other Director of Football in the country because of his vast experience as a player and a manager.
[/quote]
I had to chortle at this report.

Did I imagine it, or during the 1990's when Kinnear was Wimbledon manager, wasn't there an incident when he got involved with some people in the lower Trinity? He claimed he'd had a brick thrown at him, but it turned out to be a meat and potato pie.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: john e on July 02, 2013, 02:33:19 PM
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In an interview with the Shields Gazette Kinnear insisted he is “head and shoulders” above any other Director of Football in the country because of his vast experience as a player and a manager.
I had to chortle at this report.

Did I imagine it, or during the 1990's when Kinnear was Wimbledon manager, wasn't there an incident when he got involved with some people in the lower Trinity? He claimed he'd had a brick thrown at him, but it turned out to be a meat and potato pie.
[/quote]


to be fair, in those days it was hard to tell the difference
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: adrenachrome on July 02, 2013, 02:46:20 PM
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In an interview with the Shields Gazette Kinnear insisted he is “head and shoulders” above any other Director of Football in the country because of his vast experience as a player and a manager.
I had to chortle at this report.

Did I imagine it, or during the 1990's when Kinnear was Wimbledon manager, wasn't there an incident when he got involved with some people in the lower Trinity? He claimed he'd had a brick thrown at him, but it turned out to be a meat and potato pie.


to be fair, in those days it was hard to tell the difference
[/quote]

Good point.

A "pastie" could have taken his eye out.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: ozzjim on July 02, 2013, 02:48:23 PM
I genuinely cannot wait to hear him after a couple of defeats. It is going to be legendary this season some of the utter, utter shite he is going spout. Is he going to be there for press conference player unveiling? If so, it will be must see TV.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: UK Redsox on July 02, 2013, 02:54:44 PM
(http://moviesandfacts.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Barney-stinson-legendary.jpg)
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: adrenachrome on July 02, 2013, 03:05:33 PM
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/pictures/2008/11/18/1227047905393/Joe-Kinnear-001.jpg)
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: ozzjim on July 02, 2013, 03:16:23 PM
(http://moviesandfacts.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Barney-stinson-legendary.jpg)

I was going to put the wait for it in there, but worried the reference would be lost. Thanks for making me smile there UK Redsox.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: TheSandman on July 02, 2013, 05:53:53 PM
Steve McLaren has joined the coaching staff at QPR. From England manager to that in little over five years.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Clampy on July 02, 2013, 05:56:43 PM
Steve McLaren has joined the coaching staff at QPR. From England manager to that in little over five years.

From coaching staff to manager when Arry quits during the season?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on July 02, 2013, 06:00:53 PM
Steve McLaren has joined the coaching staff at QPR. From England manager to that in little over five years.

From coaching staff to manager when Arry quits during the season?

I have a feeling the only bush harry will be at  come opening day may be his wife Sandra's.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: LeeB on July 02, 2013, 06:05:35 PM
Steve McLaren has joined the coaching staff at QPR. From England manager to that in little over five years.

From coaching staff to manager when Arry quits during the season?

I have a feeling the only bush harry will be at  come opening day may be his wife Sandra's.

I doubt it, as the female of the species appear to have rolled out indoor surfaces on mass, and the days of it looking like a rip in a fur coat are long gone
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: mr underhill on July 02, 2013, 06:48:13 PM
he probably wishes she was a Brazilian striker, or a striker with a Brazilian
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Damo70 on July 04, 2013, 08:19:55 AM
On the dual subjects of QPR and fannies, I see Joey Barton was a day late for training. I wonder what the twat would tweet if that was a team mate of his doing that.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on July 04, 2013, 10:42:21 AM
Phil Neville to be man utd first team coach - good move for him that is.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: CJ on July 04, 2013, 12:57:55 PM
Just heard on R5 that Giggs has also joined Moyes' backroom staff as a player-coach (whatever that is)
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Dave Cooper please on July 04, 2013, 01:39:20 PM
A coach who is also a player?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Dr Butler on July 04, 2013, 03:18:01 PM
maybe he is driving the coach and gets the odd game ? ;)
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: VILLA MOLE on July 04, 2013, 03:21:56 PM
Moysey has been busy what with having to leave his post in Egypt as well as sort out his coaches ,................................................................... I would get me coat but it too bleedin muggy   :D
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Chris Smith on July 04, 2013, 03:28:19 PM
A coach who is also a player?


Don't be thick, it's a player who is also a coach.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: richard moore on July 04, 2013, 04:16:12 PM
Phil Neville to be man utd first team coach - good move for him that is.

Lessons in how to look gormless, not that the likes of Carrick and Ferdinand need those....
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Damo70 on July 04, 2013, 05:20:18 PM
Phil Neville to be man utd first team coach - good move for him that is.

Those of cynical or suspicious nature might think that Moyes not signing a new contract at Everton himself or offering a new contract to Neville, who in turn was happy to keep his options open, might mean this was actually set up a fair while ago.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: rob_bridge on July 04, 2013, 10:07:02 PM
Phil Neville to be man utd first team coach - good move for him that is.

Lessons in how to look gormless, not that the likes of Carrick and Ferdinand need those....

Lol at least Neville can string a sentence together. The odious fuppwit Ferdinand can't and Carrick may be able too but I can't understand a word he says.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: damon loves JT on July 04, 2013, 11:16:10 PM
I hope that they are about tenth in the table by November.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Percy McCarthy on July 05, 2013, 07:32:44 AM
I hope that they are about tenth in the table by November.

You're too kind.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: adrenachrome on July 05, 2013, 06:57:53 PM
Phil Neville to be man utd first team coach - good move for him that is.

Lessons in how to look gormless, not that the likes of Carrick and Ferdinand need those....

Lol at least Neville can string a sentence together. The odious fuppwit Ferdinand can't and Carrick may be able too but I can't understand a word he says.

Even though he is a Manc and so cannot pronounce any trailing consonants, Neville is light years ahead of the other two eejits who epitomise the complete absence of gorm in all its multifarious manifestations. 
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Clampy on July 06, 2013, 08:11:52 AM
I hope that they are about tenth in the table by November.

Me too, it would be nice.

I reckon Old Trafford might be an easier place to go this season.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Chris Jameson on July 06, 2013, 10:01:03 AM
I hope that they are about tenth in the table by November.

Me too, it would be nice.

I reckon Old Trafford might be an easier place to go this season.

Moyes is struggling already. They are in 11th place behind all the promoted teams.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on July 08, 2013, 11:34:06 AM
I hope that they are about tenth in the table by November.

Me too, it would be nice.

I reckon Old Trafford might be an easier place to go this season.

Oh clampy , you are like an old pair of slippers , well worn but comforting :)
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Ads on July 08, 2013, 09:52:49 PM
They have got to be weaker from losing Fergie. It would be lovely to see the Brand fall away.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Yossarian on July 13, 2013, 01:47:29 PM
It looks like Kevin MacDonald might be about to leave Swindon:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23301204

Quote

Kevin MacDonald: Swindon Town boss considers future

Swindon Town manager Kevin MacDonald is considering his position at the club, BBC Wiltshire has learned.

The former Leicester and Aston Villa coach and Republic of Ireland assistant boss was named Robins boss in February after Paolo Di Canio's resignation.

MacDonald kept Swindon in the play-off places before a semi-final defeat by Brentford.

The 52-year-old missed Friday's 2-0 pre-season friendly defeat by Forest Green for "personal reasons".

Swindon have overhauled their squad this summer, with many of Di Canio's League Two champions of 2012 leaving the club as the Robins tighten their budget under chairman Jed McCrory, who took over a week before MacDonald's appointment.

MacDonald was in charge of 14 Swindon games last season, winning only four, and in May he said he expected to be Robins boss for the 2013-14 season.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: TheMalandro on July 13, 2013, 02:05:57 PM
Phil Neville to be man utd first team coach - good move for him that is.

I hope he doesn't get tangled up in Moyes' strings
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: villa kicks on July 13, 2013, 04:32:15 PM
Swindon have confirm k mac has left. Maybe coming back to villa??
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Ron Manager on July 13, 2013, 05:23:03 PM
Swindon have confirm k mac has left. Maybe coming back to villa??

Why?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eamonn on July 13, 2013, 07:48:01 PM
Hope all is good with Kevin. He is an unassuming man.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eamonn on July 13, 2013, 07:55:40 PM
A couple of comments from Swindon fans on the BBC page:

Quote

He got fed up of Power and McCrory bringing in players, mostly via Spurs U21 team, without his agreement.

New manager...probably someone who's currently out of work with connections to Lee Power.

I'm a Swindon Town supporter of 43 years & think Kevin has been treated appallingly by both the Board & some sections of the "fans" who haven't given the chap a chance.
Good luck to him I think he's better off without the grief as he was in a no win situation.


They certainly went 180 degrees when replacing Di Canio with him. From a mouthy, gesticulating, puritanical-preaching mad hatter to a vastly experienced, modest, respectful and respectable coach.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Newby on July 16, 2013, 04:25:33 AM
Good post Eamonn, totally agree.  Kevin Mac is a gentleman, far too good for the likes of the clowns running Swindon. I hope they appoint TSM next.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Chris Jameson on July 19, 2013, 08:00:49 PM
Barcelona are looking for a new coach as sadly Villanova requires more treatment.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 19, 2013, 08:51:13 PM
Barcelona are looking for a new coach as sadly Villanova requires more treatment.

There are - seriously - real rumours they're looking at AVB, and that he also has a clause in his contract allowing him to leave for Barcelona. AS reporting that in Spain, apparently.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 19, 2013, 08:51:27 PM
Oh, and obviously, I'd wet myself laughing if that actually happened.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: TheSandman on July 19, 2013, 09:21:39 PM
It's not been a good day for them, has it?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: steamer on July 19, 2013, 09:49:32 PM
Return of Harry ?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Chris Jameson on July 19, 2013, 10:33:28 PM
Barcelona are looking for a new coach as sadly Villanova requires more treatment.

There are - seriously - real rumours they're looking at AVB, and that he also has a clause in his contract allowing him to leave for Barcelona. AS reporting that in Spain, apparently.

*Clears throat*...I'm not being wise after the event here but somewhere amongst the H&V ramblings I predicted he would one day manage Barcelona when Chelsea sacked him. So, there is no chance of it happening I guess!
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: The Man With A Stick on July 19, 2013, 11:39:07 PM
Villas Boas to Barca, taking Alex Kidd with him, Gerry Francis to make a triumphant return to "the Lane".  That'd be jest triffic.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 19, 2013, 11:44:40 PM
Bring back Christian Gross!
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: LeeB on July 19, 2013, 11:59:00 PM
The Redknapp/Venables dream team.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: TheSandman on July 20, 2013, 12:12:34 AM
What's Juande Ramos doing these days?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: *shellac* on July 20, 2013, 02:38:09 AM
I would prefer George Graham.  He would probably move Bale back to left back or sell him and use the cash to buy Perry Groves.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 21, 2013, 12:04:16 PM
Newcastle in talks with Mick Harford to work with Kinnear.

They are definitely going down
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 21, 2013, 12:20:06 PM
Newcastle in talks with Mick Harford to work with Kinnear.

They are definitely going down

I'm considering in a new side, because I'm convinced one of mine will split as we watch this unfold.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: adrenachrome on July 21, 2013, 04:54:19 PM
Newcastle in talks with Mick Harford to work with Kinnear.

They are definitely going down

Very nice.

What's Vinnie Jones doing these days? Would make a great midfield coach for the Magpies, I reckon. Director of Football Midfield Operations or some such.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: villa kicks on July 21, 2013, 05:44:23 PM
Hope Powell what a leader ! Any other footy job she would be out!
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on July 22, 2013, 02:02:54 PM
Hope Powell what a leader ! Any other footy job she would be out!

She's a female Stuart Pearce.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Dr Butler on July 22, 2013, 02:06:05 PM
Hope Powell what a leader ! Any other footy job she would be out!

She's a female Stuart Pearce.

is she doing a Pizza hut advert ? 
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: mallo on July 22, 2013, 04:40:26 PM
Newcastle in talks with Mick Harford to work with Kinnear.

They are definitely going down
He's turned them down! LOL. They are in a mire no doubt about that - just look at the stream of top class players JC has brought in.
Very nice.

What's Vinnie Jones doing these days? Would make a great midfield coach for the Magpies, I reckon. Director of Football Midfield Operations or some such.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: villa kicks on July 22, 2013, 04:49:01 PM
Hope Powell what a leader ! Any other footy job she would be out!

She's a female Stuart Pearce.

is she doing a Pizza hut advert ?

speaking before the epic fail euros Powell believed her next step could be in the men's game - but indicated that anyone outside the Premier League would struggle to offer more than she has now!! Thats where the money is and thats only place i would get more money than i do now...

15 years in charge !! she has done a lott of goood for the ladies game and offreed alot but its time to go!!
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: johnny from donny on July 22, 2013, 05:17:12 PM
Hiddink to Barca?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: VILLA MOLE on July 22, 2013, 11:21:06 PM
Hope Powell what a leader ! Any other footy job she would be out!

She's a female Stuart Pearce.

is she doing a Pizza hut advert ? 

that advert made me very angry and should have proved worthy that none should work for England again 
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: UK Redsox on August 04, 2013, 12:12:02 AM
Spurs have a New Head coach

http://deadspin.com/what-might-happen-if-a-football-coach-coached-soccer-1012841849
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Villa in Denmark on August 23, 2013, 10:43:52 PM
If anyone is interested, Ståle Solbakken, recently of the parish of Wolverhampton, has been re-appointed as FC København coach.

He's taken over from Belgian coach, Ariel Jacobs, who has left FCK in the fantastic position of 2nd bottom with 2 points from 5 games. 

They managed to win the Danish championship by default last year, as including this season they have now gone 10 games without a win and only 1 win in the last 15. The only way that run could be better was if it was Chelsea, who are the only club I can think of who're a bigger bunch of financially doped, chavi, classless chunts.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 25, 2013, 02:55:12 PM
They're below Kent Nielsen's AaB in the league. :-)

Elsewhere, there are internet rumours that Palace are going to punt Gollum and replace him with Pardew (who, presumably, Newcastle will be happy to let go).

Firstly, no matter how much of an arse you might think he is, it would be a disgrace to sack a bloke who got you promoted after TWO matches in the higher division.

Secondly, I don't want Newcastle getting the boost of a new manager before they play us so I'm hoping it's untrue.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: LeeB on August 25, 2013, 04:52:33 PM
Gollums only been up five minutes and he's already playing up to his tag of media clown, it's no wonder they want shot.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Ron Manager on August 25, 2013, 06:17:01 PM
They're below Kent Nielsen's AaB in the league. :-)

Elsewhere, there are internet rumours that Palace are going to punt Gollum and replace him with Pardew (who, presumably, Newcastle will be happy to let go).

Firstly, no matter how much of an arse you might think he is, it would be a disgrace to sack a bloke who got you promoted after TWO matches in the higher division.

Secondly, I don't want Newcastle getting the boost of a new manager before they play us so I'm hoping it's untrue.

But the new manager will be (on a temporary basis) Joe Kinnear. Its falling apart dramatically.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Mortimer's Bear on August 25, 2013, 09:45:14 PM
According to the internet Ian Holloway is on the verge of the sack.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Ad@m on August 25, 2013, 09:46:16 PM
According to the internet Ian Holloway is on the verge of the sack.

When you say the internet do you mean Twatter?!
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Lizz on August 25, 2013, 09:59:53 PM
I heard Holloway on the radio earlier, his stance was in essence, I'm not going to moan about how unfair things are, and promptly did so.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: VILLA MOLE on August 25, 2013, 10:02:53 PM
I heard Holloway on the radio earlier, his stance was in essence, I'm not going to moan about how unfair things are, and promptly did so.

I hope he goes I can not bothered with his PRECIOUS quotes for a whole season
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Damo70 on August 27, 2013, 05:52:55 PM
They're below Kent Nielsen's AaB in the league. :-)

Elsewhere, there are internet rumours that Palace are going to punt Gollum and replace him with Pardew (who, presumably, Newcastle will be happy to let go).

Firstly, no matter how much of an arse you might think he is, it would be a disgrace to sack a bloke who got you promoted after TWO matches in the higher division.

Secondly, I don't want Newcastle getting the boost of a new manager before they play us so I'm hoping it's untrue.

I would normally agree but the only people who would boost the spirits of 'the Geordie nation' are Kevin Keegan or Alan Shearer. And they would probably end up with Vinnie Jones or John Fashanu.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Villa in Denmark on August 27, 2013, 08:10:24 PM
They're below Kent Nielsen's AaB in the league. :-)

Elsewhere, there are internet rumours that Palace are going to punt Gollum and replace him with Pardew (who, presumably, Newcastle will be happy to let go).

Firstly, no matter how much of an arse you might think he is, it would be a disgrace to sack a bloke who got you promoted after TWO matches in the higher division.

Secondly, I don't want Newcastle getting the boost of a new manager before they play us so I'm hoping it's untrue.

I would normally agree but the only people who would boost the spirits of 'the Geordie nation' are Kevin Keegan or Alan Shearer. And they would probably end up with Vinnie Jones or John Fashanu.


Sounds like a match made in heaven. Only missing Ashley's bestest friend Dennis Wise to complete the crazy gang dream team.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Mortimer's Bear on August 31, 2013, 08:10:08 PM
Ian Holloway really is awful isn't he
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Chris Jameson on August 31, 2013, 08:24:33 PM
Ian Holloway really is awful isn't he

Prefer him to Di Canio.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Damo70 on August 31, 2013, 09:45:26 PM
Di Canio seemed to be gesturing to the Sunderland fans telling them it was his fault. I'm sure it won't be long before they are gesturing to him telling him that.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: danlanza on August 31, 2013, 11:28:04 PM
Can we have a " Wolves fans kick off again " thread, type thingy ?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 31, 2013, 11:30:30 PM
Can we have a " Wolves fans kick off again " thread, type thingy ?

You've got a bit of an obsession with other clubs' supporters and violence, haven't you?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Damo70 on August 31, 2013, 11:46:55 PM
I did hear on the lunchtime news that there was going to be a large police presence for 'the Staffordshire derby'. Probably only relevant on here though if Kenny Jackett and Micky Adams had a ding dong.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 01, 2013, 01:41:49 AM
Latests odds on getting sacked

Paolo Di Canio 11/4
Alan Pardew 4/1
Ian Holloway 6/1
Martin Jol 9/1
Roberto Martinez 12/1
Steve Clarke 16/1
Mauricio Pochettino 16/1
Andre Villas-Boas 16/1
Chris Hughton 20/1
Sam Allardyce 20/1
Michael Laudrup 20/1
Arsene Wenger 25/1
Malky Mackay 25/1
Steve Bruce 33/1
Paul Lambert 33/1
Mark Hughes 40/1
Brendan Rodgers 50/1
David Moyes (Manchester Utd) 50/1
Manuel Pellegrini 50/1
Jose Mourinho 66/1
No Manager To Leave 66/1
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: bertlambshank on September 01, 2013, 01:47:50 AM
11/4 who is that with I will take that.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 01, 2013, 01:50:17 AM
Skybet. It just popped up on my FB.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 01, 2013, 01:51:04 AM
If I gambled i'd be tempted with a sneaky fiver on Clarke.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Ad@m on September 01, 2013, 09:39:32 AM
Why does David Moyes have his club in brackets?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Ad@m on September 01, 2013, 09:40:57 AM
11/4 who is that with I will take that.

Ladbrokes will give you 9/2.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Chris Jameson on September 01, 2013, 11:50:59 AM
Evidently he had a pop at the Sunderland support during the week for giving Ji some stick and then promptly went and did the same thing very publicly himself.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Damo70 on September 01, 2013, 11:52:24 AM
Latests odds on getting sacked

Paolo Di Canio 11/4
Alan Pardew 4/1
Ian Holloway 6/1
Martin Jol 9/1
Roberto Martinez 12/1
Steve Clarke 16/1
Mauricio Pochettino 16/1
Andre Villas-Boas 16/1
Chris Hughton 20/1
Sam Allardyce 20/1
Michael Laudrup 20/1
Arsene Wenger 25/1
Malky Mackay 25/1
Steve Bruce 33/1
Paul Lambert 33/1
Mark Hughes 40/1
Brendan Rodgers 50/1
David Moyes (Manchester Utd) 50/1
Manuel Pellegrini 50/1
Jose Mourinho 66/1
No Manager To Leave 66/1

You beat me to it in your later post. I agree with the top two being the favourites but for a value bet I would go Clarke.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 01, 2013, 06:29:04 PM
Really beginning to wish i'd stuck some money on Clarke at 16/1.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: ozzjim on September 01, 2013, 06:43:13 PM
I said back in March they would struggle badly this season. Clarke is poor.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 01, 2013, 06:57:35 PM
Mind he is still 10/1, so still value there.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: LeeB on September 01, 2013, 09:24:19 PM
Clarke has a face you just know is going to fail.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Mortimer's Bear on September 01, 2013, 10:21:13 PM
Ian Holloway really is awful isn't he

Prefer him to Di Canio.

So do I, PDC is horrible.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: pauliewalnuts on September 01, 2013, 11:54:46 PM
Holloway is a risible twat who showed this club considerable disrespect.

Di Cano is a horrible little fascist and a piss poor lower league manager who has been inexplicably given a job in the top flight.

Truly dreadful appointment.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Clampy on September 02, 2013, 09:42:46 AM
Di Canio is probably what they needed at the time he went in. Long term, I can't see it working.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on September 02, 2013, 05:09:15 PM
Di Canio is probably what they needed at the time he went in. Long term, I can't see it working.

Di canio inherited a team left by mon that lacked discipline but he has a confrontational approach and has probably made too many enemies too quickly - he had the right idea in shaking things up but went about it in the wrong way and too publicly - it looks destined to end in tears.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Damo70 on September 02, 2013, 11:31:25 PM
I'm glad that Harry, hanging out of the window of his Range Rover talking to SKY on his way home a few minutes ago, finally realised that the binging noise from his car was telling him he was driving a motor vehicle on live TV without a seatbelt.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: TheSandman on September 03, 2013, 12:03:09 AM
Di canio inherited a team left by mon that lacked discipline but he has a confrontational approach and has probably made too many enemies too quickly - he had the right idea in shaking things up but went about it in the wrong way and too publicly - it looks destined to end in tears.

Aye. He's also signed a lot of players. All of them of dubious quality.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on September 22, 2013, 09:49:35 PM
Dicanio gone then.

Bit harsh imho. Why back a manager with that many players and just give him 5 games?

Oh well. Thanks for last years home game DiCanio. You were a good sport about it and we needed the goal difference.

Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: taylorsworkrate on September 22, 2013, 09:51:44 PM
For all DiCanio's faults, and he was a prat at times, I shall miss him slagging off his own players in post match interviews.

Nowhere near enough managers do that
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Ger Regan on September 22, 2013, 09:53:16 PM
There's a reason they don't do it.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: VILLA MOLE on September 22, 2013, 09:53:27 PM
that must be a record for getting rid of someone that early???
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: VillaAlways on September 22, 2013, 10:01:18 PM
Whenever a manager gets the sack its always seems to be after losing to West Brom. The embarrassment of getting beat by that  shower is just too much
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Irish villain on September 22, 2013, 10:01:30 PM
They were sinking.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: atomicjam on September 22, 2013, 10:08:55 PM
He is a fascist scum bag so I am glad he has lost his job, the only shame for me is that I think they were nailed on for relegation with him in charge.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: rob_bridge on September 22, 2013, 10:09:20 PM
DiCanio was a fine player - I saw him 1997 really running us ragged for Sheff Wedd.

That said he is a horrible fascist sympathiser and was promoted way above his station as a manager . And I must say I am very glad Ulbionbrazil tonked them yesterday to put the distasteful twunt on the scrapheap of football management.

Another one the media wanted to latch on to as a 'character' until some Sunderland fans pointed out to them (the media) about 35 minutes after his appointment that giving Nazi salutes and praising Mussolini was maybe not a way to go about being a untiing force. Mussolini was a war criminal and was hung from a lamp post and deserved everything he got.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: olaftab on September 22, 2013, 10:15:09 PM
Whenever a manager gets the sack its always seems to be after losing to West Brom. The embarrassment of getting beat by that  shower is just too much
Just think the utter shame of not just losing but getting thrashed....unbearable.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: N'Rexy on September 22, 2013, 10:19:38 PM
His ridiculous 'chin up' gesture on the pitch was what sealed it according to a journo from up there. Directors had heads in hands at that so he reckons. Oh that and shit results, being a facist, and not even making the trains run on time.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: KevinGage on September 22, 2013, 10:27:46 PM
For all DiCanio's faults, and he was a prat at times, I shall miss him slagging off his own players in post match interviews.

Nowhere near enough managers do that

Once in a blue moon is fine.  It stands out, and has more impact.

To do it every bastard game though defeats the object, and makes it pretty obvious that the players aren't buying into his plan.  Ergo they aren't listening to him/ don't respect him. 
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: rob_bridge on September 22, 2013, 10:28:36 PM
He is a fascist scum bag so I am glad he has lost his job, the only shame for me is that I think they were nailed on for relegation with him in charge.

Agreed Fascists are scumbags. They deserve to be trampled into the ground because that is waht they would do / have done given a chance.

Sunderland are a good bet for relegation as Ellis Short has even less of a clue about running a football club than Lerner/Faulkner (2009-2012) so will likely hire Appy Arry
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Dante Lavelli on September 22, 2013, 10:35:52 PM
My prediction is the ex Man U assistant manager with the danish sounding name.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: taylorsworkrate on September 22, 2013, 10:38:59 PM
For all DiCanio's faults, and he was a prat at times, I shall miss him slagging off his own players in post match interviews.

Nowhere near enough managers do that

Once in a blue moon is fine.  It stands out, and has more impact.

To do it every bastard game though defeats the object, and makes it pretty obvious that the players aren't buying into his plan.  Ergo they aren't listening to him/ don't respect him. 

Oh no, its not a great management tactic, its just far more entertaining.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: olaftab on September 22, 2013, 10:40:51 PM
Apparently Sunderland can get their money back from QVC for some of the players he bought under the 60 day cooling off rule.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: pauliewalnuts on September 22, 2013, 10:41:06 PM
I am watching the Italian version of MOTD at the moment (much worse. Really.) and they're interviewing Rafa Benitez.

Have to say, I know it is easier for the Spanish, but he's picked up Italian extraordinarily well, and very quickly.

Some studio wag just asked him what he thought about Mourinho saying that Chelsea had got used to playing badly under Benitez, and he replied by reeling off some achievements when he was there, the first of which was "8-0 against Aston Villa".

My stomach churned a bit.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on September 22, 2013, 10:42:39 PM
It's brilliant when the managers of other clubs do it!
Rib-ticklingly amusing!
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: atomicjam on September 22, 2013, 10:46:42 PM
Alex Mcleish was at the Sunderland game yesterday, are they that stupid?!
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on September 22, 2013, 10:51:11 PM
Alex Mcleish was at the Sunderland game yesterday, are they that stupid?!

(http://westerneditions.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/fingers-crossed11.jpeg)
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on September 22, 2013, 10:54:23 PM
I am watching the Italian version of MOTD at the moment (much worse. Really.) and they're interviewing Rafa Benitez.

Have to say, I know it is easier for the Spanish, but he's picked up Italian extraordinarily well, and very quickly.

Some studio wag just asked him what he thought about Mourinho saying that Chelsea had got used to playing badly under Benitez, and he replied by reeling off some achievements when he was there, the first of which was "8-0 against Aston Villa".

My stomach churned a bit.

Well it was. And he refrained from putting the boot in afterwards, in fact went out of his way to try and make us feel better. I was grateful to him, given some of the shit we have thrown at him in the past he would have been well within his rights to have a pop.

He out thought Lambert and was a gent to us about it. No problem with Rafa.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: fbriai on September 23, 2013, 12:14:56 PM
I am watching the Italian version of MOTD at the moment (much worse. Really.) and they're interviewing Rafa Benitez.

Have to say, I know it is easier for the Spanish, but he's picked up Italian extraordinarily well, and very quickly.

He has managed Inter in the past as well, Paulie.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: supertom on September 23, 2013, 12:20:44 PM
Hardly surprising the PDC circus has ended already. An utterly appalling choice to bring him in as manager at this level. The guy is just too bloody nuts. He made a ridiculous amount of new signings, and most of whom probably won't do much at this level. Now Sunderland are left with a pretty ropey squad indeed.

In all honesty, I don't know why they didn't stick with O Neill. It's kind of normal for pubehead to hit a rough patch. In the end he'd have kept them up comfortably, and probably had them scrapping around midtable this season which is about their level. Certainly replacing him with a clown like Di Canio was craziness. Did they not learn their lesson with Roy Keane? He was mental, but he's the epitome of sanity compared to the Fascist.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: supertom on September 23, 2013, 12:27:01 PM
In the battle of Mourinho vs Benitez at the moment, I think Mata might swing things slightly in the favour of FSW. I honestly don't know why Mourinho let go of Lukaku, a 17 goal forward, when hes only got an average Ba, an over the hill Eto'o and a long past his best Torres. Then to top it off, Mata who probably contributed directly to about 30 of Chelseas goals last season, whether scoring or assisting, is somehow not rated.

It's like he wants to erradicate as much flair and goal threat out of his side as he can. Their fucking dull to watch under Mourinho, but thats his thing I guess. Winning first, style a distant second.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 23, 2013, 12:32:57 PM
If Benitez has to bring up the 8-0 win of a side costing many, many millions more than ours, versus a young Villa side with a new manager on the back of 2 nightmare seasons post MON as any kind of achievement then he is rather desperate for identifying achievements.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Chris Jameson on September 23, 2013, 01:29:17 PM
If Benitez has to bring up the 8-0 win of a side costing many, many millions more than ours, versus a young Villa side with a new manager on the back of 2 nightmare seasons post MON as any kind of achievement then he is rather desperate for identifying achievements.

With what he has achieved in the game I'd suggest that doesn't come anywhere near any of his greatest achievements. I don't mind Benitez, as has been stated previously he was dignified when we were humiliated.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 23, 2013, 01:40:19 PM
If Benitez has to bring up the 8-0 win of a side costing many, many millions more than ours, versus a young Villa side with a new manager on the back of 2 nightmare seasons post MON as any kind of achievement then he is rather desperate for identifying achievements.

With what he has achieved in the game I'd suggest that doesn't come anywhere near any of his greatest achievements. I don't mind Benitez, as has been stated previously he was dignified when we were humiliated.

But this was specific to his time at Chelsea. He's had a very good career as a manager outside of his short spell there.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Chris Jameson on September 23, 2013, 02:22:10 PM
To be fair to him in his short time at Chelsea besides winning a trophy and qualifying for the Big Cup then an 8-0 victory does stand out.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Damo70 on September 23, 2013, 04:04:15 PM
Dicanio gone then.

Bit harsh imho. Why back a manager with that many players and just give him 5 games?

Oh well. Thanks for last years home game DiCanio. You were a good sport about it and we needed the goal difference.

I seem to remember years ago Newcastle backing Dalglish with money in the summer then giving him two or three games and sacking him after a draw. And Dalglish wasn't a mentalist.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on September 23, 2013, 04:10:40 PM
Dicanio gone then.

Bit harsh imho. Why back a manager with that many players and just give him 5 games?

Oh well. Thanks for last years home game DiCanio. You were a good sport about it and we needed the goal difference.

I seem to remember years ago Newcastle backing Dalglish with money in the summer then giving him two or three games and sacking him after a draw. And Dalglish wasn't a mentalist.

I don't know, 73M for Carroll, Downing and Henderson say otherwise.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: dicedlam on September 24, 2013, 04:17:58 PM
Talksport news have quoted TSM has saying ''of course I would be interested in the Sunderland job''.

Is this some sort game in the North East, to see who looks the biggest prats in football?

Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Damo70 on September 24, 2013, 04:49:17 PM
Talksport news have quoted TSM has saying ''of course I would be interested in the Sunderland job''.

Is this some sort game in the North East, to see who looks the biggest prats in football?

It would be nice if they just nicked managers from us directly and paid us compo rather than picking them up for nothing after they have cost us a fortune.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Legion on September 28, 2013, 07:38:18 PM
Derby sack Clough.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Jarpie on September 28, 2013, 07:48:17 PM
Derby sack Clough.

Gotta say I'm a bit surprised, they haven't been very consistent this season but he's done reasonably well in Derby with the budged he's had. I think he might try to get Sunderland job now but I doubt he'll get it.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Damo70 on September 28, 2013, 09:14:56 PM
He has always had a tight budget but has also been treading water there for the last few years. There have been clubs with smaller crowds and smaller budgets doing better than them like Palace last year and Blackpool the year before for example.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Nev on September 28, 2013, 10:08:17 PM
Shame. And a pity that a monumental shit like Davies is thriving.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Dave Cooper please on September 29, 2013, 11:30:06 AM
Derby sack Clough.

Good, can't stand the whining twunt.

Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: nodge on September 29, 2013, 01:44:34 PM
Shame. And a pity that a monumental shit like Davies is thriving.

He certainly looked like he enjoyed giving it to the Derby fans at the end of the game.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Mortimer's Bear on September 29, 2013, 09:16:16 PM
Jol will be next.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: dekko on September 29, 2013, 09:44:50 PM
Mancini in charge at Galatasaray now.  Apparently they want him to improve on last years champions league quarter final appearence (good luck getting out of a group with Real Madrid and Juventus!)
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: spangley1812 on September 29, 2013, 09:47:49 PM
Steve McClaren set to take over at Derby
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Jarpie on September 29, 2013, 10:02:52 PM
Steve McClaren set to take over at Derby

That will end up in tears.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on September 30, 2013, 11:54:21 AM
Steve McClaren set to take over at Derby

He'll be saying Duck before the week is out.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Damo70 on September 30, 2013, 01:39:16 PM
Mancini in charge at Galatasaray now.  Apparently they want him to improve on last years champions league quarter final appearence (good luck getting out of a group with Real Madrid and Juventus!)

Good luck having success in the Champions League after appointing a manager who's achilles heel is the Champions League.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Clampy on September 30, 2013, 05:28:25 PM
Steve McClaren set to take over at Derby

He'll be saying Duck before the week is out.

Very good.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Damo70 on October 01, 2013, 08:07:52 AM
I said months ago that after falling out with everyone, especially the press, in Italy and Spain, Mourinho was painting himself into a corner and setting himself up for a fall by waxing lyrical about how the press and everybody treats him better in England. He has barely got his feet back under the table and responded to some fairly innocuous questions about team selection in his press conference yesterday by storming out. Leaving Frank Lampard on his own looking very embarrassed. It was more a Keegan or Benitez style meltdown than the 'cool Jose' he tried to portray first time round over here. And at least their rants came later in the season in squeaky bum time.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: john e on October 01, 2013, 08:25:57 AM
for me the special one is losing his shine a bit, he has done incredible things in the past but is now caught up with his own persona

I mean its not that special sending your best forward out on a years loan to maybe a top 4 challenger, i'd call it pretty incompetent

and his judgement of Mata shows he doesn't always make the right choices, just trying to be big and clever whilst actually making yourself look stupid
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Walmley_Villa on October 01, 2013, 10:08:59 AM
for me the special one is losing his shine a bit, he has done incredible things in the past but is now caught up with his own persona

I mean its not that special sending your best forward out on a years loan to maybe a top 4 challenger, i'd call it pretty incompetent

and his judgement of Mata shows he doesn't always make the right choices, just trying to be big and clever whilst actually making yourself look stupid

Shipping out Lukaku and bringing in Et'o could be a monumental mistake, he needs a new Drogba and apart from our very own Beast, Lukaku has a lot of potential. Bizarre.....
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Concrete John on October 01, 2013, 10:16:45 AM
for me the special one is losing his shine a bit, he has done incredible things in the past but is now caught up with his own persona

I mean its not that special sending your best forward out on a years loan to maybe a top 4 challenger, i'd call it pretty incompetent

and his judgement of Mata shows he doesn't always make the right choices, just trying to be big and clever whilst actually making yourself look stupid

Shipping out Lukaku and bringing in Et'o could be a monumental mistake, he needs a new Drogba and apart from our very own Beast, Lukaku has a lot of potential. Bizarre.....

Mata I can sort of see why a bit.  He's a great player, but not necessarily a Mourinho type player.  However Lukaku certainly is, so why he binned him really baffles me.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Dr Butler on October 01, 2013, 10:24:22 AM
Mourinho has always annoyed me, him coming back to the Premiership will only end in the not so special one falling out with Roman and getting the sack....just after we beat the lottery winners again at Villa Park.

UTV
The Doc
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: MoetVillan on October 01, 2013, 11:40:35 AM
Fair play to Martinez....maybe Whelan knew what he was talking about.  I thought the first half from Everscum was as good as any team display this year.  They have shipped out Fellatio, kept Baines and added Lukaku and Barry to make that a great team.  Barkley is class too.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: john e on October 01, 2013, 01:24:11 PM
Fair play to Martinez....maybe Whelan knew what he was talking about.  I thought the first half from Everscum was as good as any team display this year.  They have shipped out Fellatio, kept Baines and added Lukaku and Barry to make that a great team.  Barkley is class too.

always thought Martinez is a top class manager and bloke as well, and have said so a million times on here,
 now he has the chance to prove it with a club a lot bigger than Wigan,

I reckon Everton are the winners by losing Moyes and gaining Martinez, not that I think Moyes is a bad manager, but Martinez will take them further in my view and is a proven winner,
unbeaten so far but still early days yet
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Meanwood Villa on October 03, 2013, 11:04:52 AM
I've never particularly rated him, Wigan were basically consistently shit while he was there but he's started well so fair play. As you say, early days yet!
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Damo70 on October 03, 2013, 11:20:25 AM
I've never particularly rated him, Wigan were basically consistently shit while he was there but he's started well so fair play. As you say, early days yet!

I could never understand why people wet themselves over him when aside from a cup win in his last game his Wigan record was not as good as Steve Bruce. His transfer dealings and results/performances so far at Everton though are quite impressive.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on October 07, 2013, 08:46:40 PM
Looks like Poyet for Sunderland. They have plumped for a technically focused but inexperienced foreign manager from the lower leagues, who has a bit of a reputation for off field antics.

So all change there then.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Damo70 on October 08, 2013, 09:30:17 AM
I think Poyet will turn out to be a good manager. But he is a gamble. I thought they might have bottled it and appointed Pulis to grind their way to safety.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: lovejoy on October 08, 2013, 09:43:50 AM
Does anyone really know why he left Brighton?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Dr Butler on October 08, 2013, 09:45:59 AM
just heard about Poyet.....Sunderland fans must be incredibly underwhelmed...
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Concrete John on October 08, 2013, 09:56:01 AM
The thing that gets me about the Di Canio thing is that Ellis Short knew what he was like when be gave him the job.  So why, whehn the players came to him, did he buckle - there was nothing said by them he didn't already know?

Anyway, I like Poyet and thing he'll do well career wise, but this is a big ask for his first top flight job.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on October 08, 2013, 10:12:23 AM
I'm pretty sure that some of the Brighton players were slating Poyet in a very similar way to how Sunderland players were having a go at Di Canio ove his man management methods.

Not that I'm siding with pampered, multi-millionaire, puff, prima donnas footballers.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: dave shelley on October 21, 2013, 07:49:52 PM
Tony Mowbray sacked by Middlesborough.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Damo70 on October 22, 2013, 09:47:45 AM
Tony Mowbray sacked by Middlesborough.

Pulis is the early favourite, followed by MON. Alan Curbishley is 33/1 as he always is whenever a job becomes vacant in the top two divisions. I think his agent threatens betting companies with legal action if they don't throw his name into the mix.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on October 22, 2013, 09:53:19 AM
I thought Souness looked likely to get it.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: *shellac* on October 22, 2013, 02:59:32 PM
What was Curbishley's last job...West Ham?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: LeeB on October 22, 2013, 03:09:21 PM
What was Curbishley's last job...West Ham?

That was some time ago, so you'd think he needs to take something quick as I can't see him making much on the after dinner circuit, the boring c**t.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Clampy on October 23, 2013, 04:31:08 PM
Well Holloway did'nt last long.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Richard E on October 23, 2013, 04:37:09 PM
Well Holloway did'nt last long.

"A half-a***d Manager who used to be famous."
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: The Left Side on October 23, 2013, 04:38:00 PM
Well Holloway did'nt last long.

That was quick, they must have someone lined up... hope it is either PDC, TSM or MON!
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: TheMalandro on October 23, 2013, 04:39:18 PM
Well Holloway did'nt last long.

That was quick, they must have someone lined up... hope it is either PDC, TSM or MON!

feel a little cheated we didn't get our match against him
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Dr Butler on October 23, 2013, 04:41:15 PM
Well Holloway did'nt last long.

"A half-a***d Manager who used to be famous."

very good !
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Richard E on October 23, 2013, 04:49:42 PM
He seems to have been a lot lower key/lower profile this time around compared to when he was in charge at Blackpool. Perhaps the novelty had worn off with the media, or he knew he was a dead man walking.

This is changing the deckchairs on the Titanic anyway. They're doomed come what may.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Clampy on October 23, 2013, 06:05:43 PM
He seems to have been a lot lower key/lower profile this time around compared to when he was in charge at Blackpool. Perhaps the novelty had worn off with the media, or he knew he was a dead man walking.

This is changing the deckchairs on the Titanic anyway. They're doomed come what may.

That's true, he wasn't as mouthy as he was before.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on October 23, 2013, 06:46:05 PM
Shame they fired him before he could have given us some points. Crap manager who bad mouthed our club.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Clampy on November 13, 2013, 05:56:42 PM
I see Fulham have appointed someone to work with/alongside Martin Jol. I can see where this one might be heading.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Villa in Denmark on November 13, 2013, 07:50:48 PM
Meulensteen. Fellow Dutchman and former coach for Voldermort of Manchester.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Damo70 on November 23, 2013, 12:08:35 PM
It looks like Pulis to Palace is finally going to happen. Good choice. He will get them organized and harder to beat. If anyone has a (slight) chance of keeping them up it is probably him. Probably more relevant is he is as likely as anyone to get them back up in better shape to survive.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: LeeB on November 23, 2013, 12:21:22 PM
It looks like Pulis to Palace is finally going to happen. Good choice. He will get them organized and harder to beat. If anyone has a (slight) chance of keeping them up it is probably him. Probably more relevant is he is as likely as anyone to get them back up in better shape to survive.

He actually fits them, as they've always been a horrible side to watch, even when they had Wright and Bright up top.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Chris Harte on November 27, 2013, 01:09:56 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/nov/26/andre-villas-boas-tottenham-manager?CMP=twt_gu

One heavy defeat that leaves them two points from a CL berth and the club's hierachy are supposedly questioning whether he is the right person for the job?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: curiousorange on November 28, 2013, 03:02:41 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/nov/26/andre-villas-boas-tottenham-manager?CMP=twt_gu

One heavy defeat that leaves them two points from a CL berth and the club's hierachy are supposedly questioning whether he is the right person for the job?

Stupid. Delusions of grandeur after two seasons of consistency.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Clampy on November 28, 2013, 04:50:03 PM
With the amount of players they brought in on the back of the Bale money, they're going to have to give him time to blend them in.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Lsvilla on November 29, 2013, 08:16:21 PM
Anyone know what Moronio is on about with his dig at Lukaku tonight and his comments about "he should say why he's at Everton and not at Chelsea - he likes to speak"
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: spangley1812 on December 01, 2013, 04:23:08 PM
Martin Jol sacked by Fulham........
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Chris Harte on December 01, 2013, 04:39:47 PM
Martin Jol sacked by Fulham........
Bye bye, Mutley.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Smirker on December 01, 2013, 04:54:24 PM
Anyone know what Moronio is on about with his dig at Lukaku tonight and his comments about "he should say why he's at Everton and not at Chelsea - he likes to speak"

Fuck knows probably had a fallout with him. Lukaku is a Chelsea fan though so can only see him playing there long term.

Don't think Mourinho will last more than 1 season. Madrid done a number on him, looks a shadow of his former self these days.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Legion on December 01, 2013, 06:19:10 PM
Dave Jones (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25178715)
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Fasth56 on December 01, 2013, 06:24:01 PM
I see Fulham have appointed someone to work with/alongside Martin Jol. I can see where this one might be heading.

Bingo
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: danno on December 01, 2013, 06:25:37 PM
Dave Jones (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25178715)

is clearing out his locker.

Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on December 01, 2013, 08:31:34 PM
Dave Jones (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25178715)

is clearing out his locker.



Will the arrival of Paulo di canio be next or ian holloway ?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: SheffieldVillain on December 02, 2013, 12:25:35 AM
A couple of lines from the BBC gossip column

Another one gone - that's four this weekend!
Quote
Wigan manager Owen Coyle has been sacked after just six months in charge. The 47-year-old was summoned to meet Wigan chairman Dave Whelan after Sunday's 3-1 home defeat to Derby and informed of the news, which will be announced on Monday.

And an old name back in the business... is he really 59? How time flies!
Quote
Former Aston Villa manager John Gregory, 59, is set to be appointed manager of League One Crawley Town.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Louzie0 on December 02, 2013, 12:31:09 AM
Dave Jones (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25178715)

is clearing out his locker.



Will the arrival of Paulo di canio be next or ian holloway ?

Just read some Wigan fans begging Ian Holloway to take over in the comments under the story of Coyle's sacking in the Mirror!
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: TheSandman on December 02, 2013, 12:57:32 AM
Good to see John Gregory getting back in the game.

Surely Di Canio is damaged goods following Sunderland? Don't think his gigantic ego could take ending up going down a division after havng failed in the top flight.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: SheffieldVillain on December 02, 2013, 01:14:00 AM
Dave Jones (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25178715)

is clearing out his locker.



Will the arrival of Paulo di canio be next or ian holloway ?

Just read some Wigan fans begging Ian Holloway to take over in the comments under the story of Coyle's sacking in the Mirror!

Holloway and Whelan. It'd be like a National Bigmouths Convention.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Damo70 on December 02, 2013, 08:45:05 AM
Dave Jones (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25178715)

is clearing out his locker.



Will the arrival of Paulo di canio be next or ian holloway ?

Just read some Wigan fans begging Ian Holloway to take over in the comments under the story of Coyle's sacking in the Mirror!

Holloway and Whelan. It'd be like a National Bigmouths Convention.

If they also appoint Harry Redknapp as director of football SKY can just base themselves in Wigan and wouldn't need to ever look elsewhere for quotes.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Nev on December 02, 2013, 09:48:24 AM
Owen Coyle has had the sack off of Wigan.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Clampy on December 02, 2013, 10:03:51 AM
And now Owen Coyle get's the boot as well.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on December 02, 2013, 12:14:45 PM
Coyle being axed so quickly surprises me , wigan are only 6 points off 5th place and have had the problem of playing in Europe as well- whelan has panicked somewhat - the famous coyle ill fitting false teeth will be missed , a nice bloke and I'm surprised its all gone downhill for him in the last two or three years- I wish him well.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: UK Redsox on December 02, 2013, 12:42:32 PM
I didn't realise that O'Driscoll had been canned by Bristol City until I saw the list of sackings alongside the Coyle story on da Beeb.

How about Olly for that job ? There'd be a riot down Aston Gate
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Bernie on December 02, 2013, 03:21:40 PM
I didn't realise that O'Driscoll had been canned by Bristol City until I saw the list of sackings alongside the Coyle story on da Beeb.

How about Olly for that job ? There'd be a riot down Aston Gate
That was actually touted as a serious possibility on BBC Radio Bristol though you're right about it being potentially riot-causing-it would be like TF being appointed as Villa boss.   Steve Cotterill is now being talked of as favourite (for Bristol City, not Villa........)
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Mortimer's Bear on December 02, 2013, 05:45:46 PM
JG to Crawley Town then.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Clampy on December 02, 2013, 05:49:29 PM
JG to Crawley Town then.

Hope he does well there.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Clampy on December 03, 2013, 10:26:52 AM
Gregory's got the Crawley job. Good luck the to bloke.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: UK Redsox on December 03, 2013, 12:12:35 PM
I didn't realise that O'Driscoll had been canned by Bristol City until I saw the list of sackings alongside the Coyle story on da Beeb.

How about Olly for that job ? There'd be a riot down Aston Gate
That was actually touted as a serious possibility on BBC Radio Bristol though you're right about it being potentially riot-causing-it would be like TF being appointed as Villa boss.   Steve Cotterill is now being talked of as favourite (for Bristol City, not Villa........)

Cotterill confirmed at Bristol City
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on December 03, 2013, 05:21:28 PM
Holloway and Whelan. It'd be like a National Bigmouths Convention.

Christ. Imagine. Shudder.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Dave on December 03, 2013, 05:22:58 PM
Coyle being axed so quickly surprises me , wigan are only 6 points off 5th place and have had the problem of playing in Europe as well- whelan has panicked somewhat - the famous coyle ill fitting false teeth will be missed , a nice bloke and I'm surprised its all gone downhill for him in the last two or three years- I wish him well.
Apparently Coyle was sacked because he didn't want to play Roger Espinoza who Whelan really likes.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Damo70 on December 03, 2013, 05:30:22 PM
Whelan said yesterday that he and Coyle didn't get on like a chairman and manager should. I know who I would be inclined to side with on that one.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: cheltenhamlion on December 03, 2013, 06:39:52 PM
Cotterill has gone to them? That is a swizz. I still have a soft spot for him after what he did with his hometown club.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Dave Cooper please on December 04, 2013, 12:02:19 AM
Gregory's got the Crawley job. Good luck the to bloke.

Have I ever said that I really fucking hate Crawley Town?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on December 05, 2013, 04:40:53 PM
Quote from:  the mirror

By John Cross | 04/12/13 

Sam Allardyce is battling to save his job at West Ham.

Big Sam has been left in no doubt that results must improve quickly – or he could be sacked.

And a daunting fixture list lies ahead, with Liverpool, Sunderland, Tottenham, Manchester United and Arsenal their next five games.

Tuesday night’s 1-0 defeat at fellow strugglers Crystal Palace has left the Irons hovering just above the drop zone.

West Ham’s owners are being supportive publicly, but behind the scenes there is frustration at the poor results.

There have also been big questions about why the Hammers left themselves so short of strikers but spent big on Stewart Downing when they already have a selection of wide men.

West Ham’s co-owner David Sullivan is prepared to back Allardyce in January – but there will have to be an improvement between now and then.

Patience is growing thin and Sullivan, in particular, wants to see a response after the Palace debacle.

Meanwhile, the Irons' Mark Noble defended Kevin Nolan after his skipper was subbed at Palace.

Nolan has become the focus of unrest among Hammers fans. But his fellow midfielder Noble said: “He’s our captain, of course he has an important role to play.

“He’s been unbelievable for us. We needed a goal and the manager thought he’d make a change. Kev is brilliant in the dressing room. He’s big enough to handle that stuff.”
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Clampy on December 05, 2013, 06:57:42 PM
Uwe Rosler talking to Wigan apparantely to replace the manager who replaced one of Europe's best managers.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Damo70 on December 06, 2013, 08:45:25 AM
The likes of St Johnstone and Dunfirmline will be spoilt for choice now if they decide they need a new manager. TSM and Coyle for starters.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Clampy on December 16, 2013, 11:09:20 AM
AVB has got the boot.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Legion on December 16, 2013, 11:11:28 AM
Madness.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: UK Redsox on December 16, 2013, 11:52:06 AM
Madness.

What about them ? Have they sacked Suggs ?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Toronto Villa on December 16, 2013, 12:48:28 PM
AVB has got the boot.

The problem was that as the pressure built his voice became so deep it was barely audible. Team practices were no more than a series of mumbled instructions. In fact I understand that players started to think his arse was talking as the communication from the manager began to sound like a drawn out fart.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: lovejoy on December 16, 2013, 12:50:10 PM
Ridiculous.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Dave on December 16, 2013, 01:08:45 PM
Is it? Surely it depends who they replace him with?

I remember most people insisting that it was crazy for Southampton to dispose of Adkins. If Spurs and West Brom get someone better in then it's a perfectly sensible decision.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Toronto Villa on December 16, 2013, 01:17:52 PM
Think of the reaction on here if we had sold our best player, replaced him with £100m+ in new players and been battered convincingly by two of our closest rivals one 5-0 at home. In fact I would put getting beaten 5-0 at home given their spending as a way worse result than a young team getting stuffed 8-0 at Chelsea. Villas Boas deserved to get fired.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: dekko on December 16, 2013, 02:23:34 PM
Supposedly the board were expecting him to mount a title challenge
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on December 16, 2013, 02:41:39 PM
Supposedly the board were expecting him to mount a title challenge

(http://i.imgur.com/xT0l1M8.jpg)
Mr.Levy would like to see you after the game Andre, no he didnt say what it was about, he had two Italian gentlemen with him though.

Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Clampy on December 16, 2013, 04:42:46 PM
Another one has gone, this time Gianfranco Zola.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Dave Cooper please on December 16, 2013, 04:48:17 PM
Another one has gone, this time Gianfranco Zola.

A couple of Baggies fans on Twitter getting strangely excited.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Toronto Villa on December 16, 2013, 04:55:58 PM
Another one has gone, this time Gianfranco Zola.

wasn't Zola the next coming of whatever for about 5 minutes. That whole situation at Watford was all a bit strange last season with all of those loans. Punched well above their weight until a lot of those players had to top back.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on December 16, 2013, 05:15:50 PM
Another one has gone, this time Gianfranco Zola.

Goodness me clampy , where are you getting your info - you have your finger on the trigger today :)
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on December 16, 2013, 05:16:33 PM
Another one has gone, this time Gianfranco Zola.

A couple of Baggies fans on Twitter getting strangely excited.

Would be the sort they would go for down the Albion .
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Damo70 on December 16, 2013, 07:19:42 PM
Another one has gone, this time Gianfranco Zola.

A couple of Baggies fans on Twitter getting strangely excited.

Would be the sort they would go for down the Albion .

You mean unemployed/no compo?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 16, 2013, 07:21:07 PM
Compo would fit in well with that bunch of tramps.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Damo70 on December 16, 2013, 07:24:22 PM
Supposedly the board were expecting him to mount a title challenge

That is reasonable considering how many titles they have won in my lifetime and how many he won with Chelsea.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on December 16, 2013, 07:58:06 PM
Malky Mackay's future at Cardiff City has been plunged into fresh doubt, after owner Vincent Tan is "extremely upset" that the Bluebirds' manager said he was looking to sign three new players in the January transfer window.

In an explosive statement issued by the club, chief executive Simon Lim said that Tan believes Mackay does not need additional funds to keep City in the Premier League and will therefore not be given any money in the upcoming transfer window.

Lim also revealed that ex-head of recruitment Iain Moody was sacked following a £15million overspend.

The full statement reads: "Tan Sri Vincent Tan was extremely upset to read quotes from the manager concerning the possibility of new recruits, before he had been informed whether funds would be made available.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: danlanza on December 16, 2013, 08:40:56 PM
Supposedly the board were expecting him to mount a title challenge

(http://i.imgur.com/xT0l1M8.jpg)
Mr.Levy would like to see you after the game Andre, no he didnt say what it was about, he had two Italian gentlemen with him though.
Like a scene from the Godfather that is.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Clampy on December 16, 2013, 08:51:32 PM
Another one has gone, this time Gianfranco Zola.

Goodness me clampy , where are you getting your info - you have your finger on the trigger today :)

Just had my ear to the ground Easts.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 16, 2013, 08:54:06 PM
(http://rack.1.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDEzLzA2LzEzL2E4L3NtYXNoZWRjb21wLjVkMzdhLmdpZgpwCXRodW1iCTEyMDB4OTYwMD4/46976450/cf5/smashed-computer.gif)
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on December 16, 2013, 09:10:33 PM
(http://rack.1.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDEzLzA2LzEzL2E4L3NtYXNoZWRjb21wLjVkMzdhLmdpZgpwCXRodW1iCTEyMDB4OTYwMD4/46976450/cf5/smashed-computer.gif)

Indeed :(
Twice in one day too .
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: danlanza on December 16, 2013, 09:18:48 PM
(http://rack.1.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDEzLzA2LzEzL2E4L3NtYXNoZWRjb21wLjVkMzdhLmdpZgpwCXRodW1iCTEyMDB4OTYwMD4/46976450/cf5/smashed-computer.gif)
How did you find me ?
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Clampy on December 16, 2013, 09:25:28 PM
(http://rack.1.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDEzLzA2LzEzL2E4L3NtYXNoZWRjb21wLjVkMzdhLmdpZgpwCXRodW1iCTEyMDB4OTYwMD4/46976450/cf5/smashed-computer.gif)

That video just gets better and better.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Toronto Villa on December 16, 2013, 09:38:49 PM
(http://rack.1.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDEzLzA2LzEzL2E4L3NtYXNoZWRjb21wLjVkMzdhLmdpZgpwCXRodW1iCTEyMDB4OTYwMD4/46976450/cf5/smashed-computer.gif)

Indeed :(
Twice in one day too .

It has to be eating at you inside. Then one day bang you go all Falling Down on us.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Villa in Denmark on December 16, 2013, 10:42:46 PM
(http://rack.1.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDEzLzA2LzEzL2E4L3NtYXNoZWRjb21wLjVkMzdhLmdpZgpwCXRodW1iCTEyMDB4OTYwMD4/46976450/cf5/smashed-computer.gif)

He's obviously just got of the phone from IT support :)
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on December 17, 2013, 07:50:01 AM
(http://rack.1.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDEzLzA2LzEzL2E4L3NtYXNoZWRjb21wLjVkMzdhLmdpZgpwCXRodW1iCTEyMDB4OTYwMD4/46976450/cf5/smashed-computer.gif)



Indeed :(
Twice in one day too .


It has to be eating at you inside. Then one day bang you go all Falling Down on us.

Both times I reached for ipad to break the news only to find jim 'clampy ' White had beaten me to it :)
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: not3bad on December 18, 2013, 04:20:17 PM
Ole Gunnar Solskjær being mentioned as a contender at Tesco's.

EDIT: I see it's being discussed elsewhere.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Lsvilla on December 19, 2013, 08:04:10 PM
BBC reporting that Malky Mackay has been told to resign or be sacked by Vincent Tan
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Woofles The Wonder Dog on December 19, 2013, 08:32:02 PM
Believably unbelievable. Mad.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: bertlambshank on December 19, 2013, 08:47:10 PM
He had better not rock up at the fucking Hawthorn's.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Clampy on December 19, 2013, 08:59:14 PM
That Vincent Tan sounds like an absolute nightmare to work for. It sounds like he's best off out of it.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Richard E on December 19, 2013, 09:15:25 PM
True, but if Malky Mackay needs an employment lawyer I'd be more than happy to step into the breach...
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Fasth56 on December 19, 2013, 10:12:34 PM
He could resign and claim constructive dismissal, worked for mon.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: berneboy on December 19, 2013, 10:28:44 PM
I reckon Cardiff will go down now - there was a good chance anyway but with Mackay going how on earth will they get a decent manager in?


Or that's Cardiff and Sunderland. Just one more needed!
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Clampy on December 20, 2013, 09:18:08 AM
Press Conference at Cardiff apparently, which was meant to be held by Malkay Mackay but now isn't.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on December 20, 2013, 10:46:20 AM
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer is ready to open talks with West Brom about becoming their new boss - after snubbing a rival job.

The former Manchester United striker is expected to discuss the Baggies vacancy today as Norwegian side Molde clear his exit.

And Solskjaer is swaying towards a Premier League return after saying ‘no’ the post at Legia Warsaw in Poland.

Legia approached Solskjaer but he turned them down, paving the way for his pal Henning Berg to get the call.

Now Solskjaer is poised to sort out a deal with Albion who are looking for a young coach to replace Steve Clarke.

Solskjaer, who led Molde to the Norwegian Cup for the third time in their history this year, would fit comfortably into West Brom’s management style and is unlikely to rock the boat for a big transfer fund.

The Norwegian has been linked with jobs in the past year but has not found the right club. He has property in England and knows the domestic scene.

Molde chief executive Tarje Nordstrand Jacobsen admitted earlier this week he had received a number of enquiries about Solskjaer.

He said: “I can confirm that we have received formal requests, but will not say when they arrived or where they came from.

“Ole has a name that will always make him attractive. And he has a standing in England that makes him often a candidate there.”

Asked if he was prepared for Solskjaer to leave Molde soon, Nordstrand Jacobsen said: “Yes. We are aware that is a possible scenario.

“Ole has won three titles (including a cup) in three years with Molde.

“It is obvious that this can be good timing for him if he wants to further his career.”

Numerous names have been linked with the vacant Baggies job including the freshly sacked Spurs boss Andre Villas-Boas.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Dr Butler on December 20, 2013, 02:47:55 PM
OGS to the Stripey Filthy Tesco bags ?........christ they would spin it to he turned the Villa down for that shower of shite, just you watch.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on December 21, 2013, 07:30:24 AM
Quote from:  the mirror

By John Cross | 20/12/13 

Ole Gunnar Solskjaer is locked in a managerial tug-of-war as Cardiff boss Malky Mackay prepares for his last stand at Anfield.

The Bluebirds' owner Vincent Tan is due to hold talks with Solskjaer, who is also a target for West Brom following the sacking of Steve Clarke last week.

Mackay will take charge of the Bluebirds in their Saturday lunchtime match away to Liverpool, but expects to be axed by Monday at the latest after Tan demanded he resign or be sacked.

Solskjaer – boss of Norwegian side Molde – heads a three-man short-list of potential replacements that also includes Blackpool boss Paul Ince and Dave Jones, Cardiff manager for six years until being replaced by Mackay in 2011.

Tan is likely to meet Jones – who has also been sounded out about a director of football role – following his sacking as Sheffield Wednesday manager earlier this month, while other members of the Cardiff hierarchy are championing Ince.

Mirror Sport can reveal that Malaysian businessman Tan has raised questions over two specific transfers after believing the club overspent its budget by £15million last summer.

The owner claims they paid too much for Gary Medel who joined from Sevilla for £11m. He believes Medel had been available for a fraction of that fee just weeks earlier.

The other deal was for full-back Kevin Theophile-Catherine, who joined from French side Rennes for £2.1m.

 

Both have been regulars as the Bluebirds have enjoyed great results against the likes of Manchester City and Manchester United.

We revealed earlier this week that Manchester United hero Solskjaer, 40, is wanted by West Brom - who ironically axed Clarke after they lost to Mackay's Cardiff last Saturday - but they will not have a clear run.

Intriguingly, the Baggies would also be interested in Mackay if he left the Welsh side.

The Scot, who flew with his players to Merseyside from Cardiff on Friday afternoon, is determined not to resign despite Tan’s ultimatum.

The owner wants Mackay to quit as he does not want to sack him and then face paying hefty compensation.

Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: N'ZMAV on December 21, 2013, 01:26:29 PM
Sven will be going to Cardiff.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Legion on December 21, 2013, 06:58:40 PM


Don't sack Mackay, Malky Mackay.
I just don't think you understand.
Because if you sack Mackay, Malky Mackay.
You're gonna have a riot on your hands!
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Dante Lavelli on December 22, 2013, 11:51:43 AM


Don't sack Mackay, Malky Mackay.
I just don't think you understand.
Because if you sack Mackay, Malky Mackay.
You're gonna have a riot on your hands!

Nice.  Puts a lot of what we moan about in perspective. 
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on December 22, 2013, 12:54:40 PM
Quote from:  the mirror

Tottenham Hotspur caretaker boss Tim Sherwood has admitted he's an ARSENAL fan.

In a video shot prior to Andre Villas-Boas' axing last week, Sherwood reveals that he was a Gooner as a child, and that his dad still goes to the Emirates EVERY WEEK.

"I’m an Arsenal fan as a kid," he says. "My dad still goes to the Emirates every week."

And if that wasn't enough he adds: "I would love to see them do well.”

This news is sure to somewhat damage his hopes of getting the job on a full-time basis, despite claiming earlier this week that he was keen to take it.

Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: TheSandman on December 22, 2013, 04:51:54 PM
Mackay has been given a stay of execution.

I suspect it will still be only a matter of time.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: danlanza on December 22, 2013, 07:14:00 PM


Don't sack Mackay, Malky Mackay.
I just don't think you understand.
Because if you sack Mackay, Malky Mackay.
You're gonna have a riot on your hands!
That is what this game is all about, the fans. Shame we are not listened to enough. Fantastic CCFC, fantastic. That idiot of a chairman has no place in the game.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Damo70 on December 23, 2013, 01:27:52 AM
If I heard correctly on the radio today, if Mackay had gone all the other PL managers put together would not have been in charge as long as Arsene Wenger.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Ads on December 23, 2013, 01:23:41 PM
Well they have a very good base section, but no solo top tenner thats for sure.


(10 Ads points for naming the film)
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Holte132 on December 23, 2013, 01:55:09 PM
Well they have a very good base section, but no solo top tenner thats for sure.


(10 Ads points for naming the film)

Zulu. I claim my ten Ads points. Merry Christmas! Thank you!
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Bernie on December 23, 2013, 04:40:48 PM
Quote from:  the mirror

Tottenham Hotspur caretaker boss Tim Sherwood has admitted he's an ARSENAL fan.

In a video shot prior to Andre Villas-Boas' axing last week, Sherwood reveals that he was a Gooner as a child, and that his dad still goes to the Emirates EVERY WEEK.

"I’m an Arsenal fan as a kid," he says. "My dad still goes to the Emirates every week."

And if that wasn't enough he adds: "I would love to see them do well.”

This news is sure to somewhat damage his hopes of getting the job on a full-time basis, despite claiming earlier this week that he was keen to take it.

Why do the MIRROR have to tell US in CAPITALS that TIM Sherwood is an ARSENAL fan? Not least that HE went to the EMIRATES (not HIGHBURY now) EVERY WEEK? WOW!!
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Ian J on December 23, 2013, 04:49:22 PM
Quote from:  the mirror

Tottenham Hotspur caretaker boss Tim Sherwood has admitted he's an ARSENAL fan.

In a video shot prior to Andre Villas-Boas' axing last week, Sherwood reveals that he was a Gooner as a child, and that his dad still goes to the Emirates EVERY WEEK.

"I’m an Arsenal fan as a kid," he says. "My dad still goes to the Emirates every week."

And if that wasn't enough he adds: "I would love to see them do well.”

This news is sure to somewhat damage his hopes of getting the job on a full-time basis, despite claiming earlier this week that he was keen to take it.

Why do the MIRROR have to tell US in CAPITALS that TIM Sherwood is an ARSENAL fan? Not least that HE went to the EMIRATES (not HIGHBURY now) EVERY WEEK? WOW!!
Ooooh the DRAMA of IT!
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: spangley1812 on December 23, 2013, 09:16:04 PM
Tottenham have named Tim Sherwood as manager until the end of the 2014-15 season.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: PaulWinch again on December 23, 2013, 09:17:09 PM
That's an odd time frame.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Clampy on December 23, 2013, 09:18:33 PM
Bit of a gamble all round really.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: lovejoy on December 23, 2013, 09:19:27 PM
Didn't he say he didn't want the job on a part time basis? He's lost all credibility in a heartbeat there. This is going to be Di Matteo at Chavski all over again.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: olaftab on December 23, 2013, 09:21:32 PM
How is 18 months contract part time? Looking at the attrition of PL managers that's a job for life.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Dante Lavelli on December 23, 2013, 09:29:20 PM
Bit of a gamble all round really.

Indeed.

A friend of a friend once decorated Tim Sherwood's house and said he was a bit of a prat.  More interested in living the high life rather than football.  This was a few years ago whilst he was at Portsmouth so he could have changed character considerably since then but what was described to me did not sound like a future manager.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Yossarian on December 23, 2013, 09:36:19 PM
it's a shame Hoddle didn't get the job.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: lovejoy on December 23, 2013, 09:41:57 PM
How is 18 months contract part time? Looking at the attrition of PL managers that's a job for life.

Seems very short to me, most managers get 3-5 years, Pardew excepted.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: PGW on December 23, 2013, 09:45:51 PM
How is 18 months contract part time? Looking at the attrition of PL managers that's a job for life.

Seems very short to me, most managers get 3-5 years, Pardew excepted.
It can work in both parties favour - If Sherwood does brilliantly in first 9 months Levy under pressure to keep him, Sherwood doubling his money....if he does crap well we all know what happens then.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Clampy on December 23, 2013, 10:25:11 PM
Maybe Levy offered him the job until May with a new manager in mind after that and Sherwood said no. Having no-one lined up, Levy then offered him 18 months but still plans to bring in a new manager in pre-season regardless.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: TheSandman on December 24, 2013, 01:16:04 AM
Very odd appointment. It smacks of Spurs sacking AVB without a clear succession plan much like Wolves sacking Mick McCarthy and bringing in Terry Connor. Giving the job longer-term to a caretaker off the back of one (in my opinion shaky) win is a big gamble and really that kind of big gamble is not something you'd expect of a club with the aspirations that Spurs have.

I'm putting my money on it ending in tears.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Chris Jameson on December 24, 2013, 10:13:29 AM
My guess is Hiddink or whoever will be available after the World Cup, Sherwood won't last to next season but he's insisted on a proper grown up contract.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on December 24, 2013, 10:45:25 AM
Levy won't worry about paying him off a year early - if it works out till may then fair enough he may stick with him but if not he will soon ditch him - what's a year pay off to levy after all the compensation he's paid out on managers contracts

I would be extremely surprised if Sherwood is still at spurs next August .
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on December 24, 2013, 10:49:11 AM
@JamesNursey: Pepe Mel now odds on for #WBA . The indications I heard yesterday were he is being interviewed and most probably heads the short-list
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Dave on December 24, 2013, 12:42:42 PM
@JamesNursey: Pepe Mel now odds on for #WBA . The indications I heard yesterday were he is being interviewed and most probably heads the short-list
(all knowledge taken from Wikipedia)

That seems pretty odd.

It would be a bit like say, Almeria or Mallorca thinking what they really needed was a journeyman English manager and employing say, Phil Brown or Gary Johnson.

He's managed nearly a dozen teams over the last fifteen years and not done anything particularly impressive at any of them from what I can gather.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: eastie on December 24, 2013, 01:08:18 PM
@JamesNursey: Pepe Mel now odds on for #WBA . The indications I heard yesterday were he is being interviewed and most probably heads the short-list
(all knowledge taken from Wikipedia)

That seems pretty odd.

It would be a bit like say, Almeria or Mallorca thinking what they really needed was a journeyman English manager and employing say, Phil Brown or Gary Johnson.

He's managed nearly a dozen teams over the last fifteen years and not done anything particularly impressive at any of them from what I can gather.

Excellent news then .
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Clampy on December 24, 2013, 01:23:34 PM
@JamesNursey: Pepe Mel now odds on for #WBA . The indications I heard yesterday were he is being interviewed and most probably heads the short-list
(all knowledge taken from Wikipedia)

That seems pretty odd.

It would be a bit like say, Almeria or Mallorca thinking what they really needed was a journeyman English manager and employing say, Phil Brown or Gary Johnson.

He's managed nearly a dozen teams over the last fifteen years and not done anything particularly impressive at any of them from what I can gather.

That photo of him on Wiki looks like a cockney who sells dodgy dvd's in the pub.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: Damo70 on December 24, 2013, 07:11:51 PM
Pepe Mel sounds more like a clown's name than a football manager's name. Unless the football manager in question is a fictional one created for comedy purposes by Paul Whitehouse. I like him already.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: pauliewalnuts on December 24, 2013, 11:42:52 PM
@JamesNursey: Pepe Mel now odds on for #WBA . The indications I heard yesterday were he is being interviewed and most probably heads the short-list
(all knowledge taken from Wikipedia)

That seems pretty odd.

It would be a bit like say, Almeria or Mallorca thinking what they really needed was a journeyman English manager and employing say, Phil Brown or Gary Johnson.

He's managed nearly a dozen teams over the last fifteen years and not done anything particularly impressive at any of them from what I can gather.

I've always been relatively unimpressed by the "why oh why not give a British manager a chance" argument, as it is too often in the form of some tit like Gabriele Marcotti suggesting Villa appoint Sean O'Driscoll, but you do have to wonder what on earth teams like Albion or Middlesbrough are thinking when appointing their manager, and how much the fact they've got a lah di dah foreign name distorts things.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: olaftab on December 27, 2013, 01:44:45 PM
Mackay gone from Cardiff. Relieved of his duties by the Board.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: lovejoy on December 27, 2013, 01:47:56 PM
So foreseeable was about a week.
Title: Re: Other clubs' managers
Post by: The Man With A Stick on Decembe