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Title: Man United Away Tickets - Change of seating location?
Post by: garyfouroaks on March 09, 2012, 08:13:01 PM
I see that these are on sale now for £39, and have heard from a Man U contact that we are being moved to NT3, the upper tier section at right angles to the Stretford End, pretty much on the diagonal from the existing away section. If true, a climb that beats even St James Park awaits.
Title: Re: Man United Away Tickets - Change of seating location?
Post by: bertlambshank on March 09, 2012, 08:33:13 PM
The tickets have an health warning on them!
Title: Re: Man United Away Tickets - Change of seating location?
Post by: cdbearsfan on March 09, 2012, 09:10:22 PM
I think we sat there in the Cup game a few years back and the seats were fine.
Title: Re: Man United Away Tickets - Change of seating location?
Post by: olaftab on March 10, 2012, 12:09:46 AM
No mountain high enough ...to follow the Villa. I'll be there!
Title: Re: Man United Away Tickets - Change of seating location?
Post by: Pete3206 on March 10, 2012, 01:02:55 AM
£39? A snip when you consider what 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' are charging.
Title: Re: Man United Away Tickets - Change of seating location?
Post by: Dave Clark Five on March 10, 2012, 06:15:24 PM
That's bad news as it takes us further away from the station.
Title: Re: Man United Away Tickets - Change of seating location?
Post by: SoccerHQ on March 10, 2012, 07:16:38 PM
What allocation have we got for this?
Title: Re: Man United Away Tickets - Change of seating location?
Post by: garyfouroaks on March 10, 2012, 08:19:48 PM
What allocation have we got for this?
I am reliably informed that we have only asked for the initial 1700, the balancing 1300 having to be paid for in full, irrespective of whether we sell them or not.
Title: Re: Man United Away Tickets - Change of seating location?
Post by: villajk on March 10, 2012, 08:21:25 PM
What allocation have we got for this?
I am reliably informed that we have only asked for the initial 1700, the balancing 1300 having to be paid for in full, irrespective of whether we sell them or not.

Which is always the case and which is why I believe we have only taken initial allocations all season.
Title: Re: Man United Away Tickets - Change of seating location?
Post by: garyfouroaks on March 10, 2012, 08:21:49 PM
I think we sat there in the Cup game a few years back and the seats were fine.
No, I went. Those were in East upper. These are in the third tier in the stand to the right of the old scoreboard end.
Title: Re: Man United Away Tickets - Change of seating location?
Post by: SoccerHQ on March 11, 2012, 04:02:53 PM
Surely if it's reduced, they'd just moved the netting to the right in the corner. I really can't see 1, 700 fans being moved to the upper tier, don't Manure have season ticket holders up there?
Title: Villa Fans moved at Old Trafford
Post by: Kingthing on March 18, 2012, 08:21:27 PM


Read in the Observer today that Man U are thinking of moving the away fans and are trialling things with their game against us and seeing how it goes. Apparently we're in the Gods of the third tier of the Sir Alex Ferguson Stand.

How could moving the away fans that far away improve the atmosphere?   
Title: Re: Villa Fans moved at Old Trafford
Post by: villajk on March 18, 2012, 08:26:55 PM
196 steps I've been told.  That's worse than Newcastle.  Can't wait...
Title: Re: Villa Fans moved at Old Trafford
Post by: AV82EC on March 18, 2012, 08:31:33 PM


Read in the Observer today that Man U are thinking of moving the away fans and are trialling things with their game against us and seeing how it goes. Apparently we're in the Gods of the third tier of the Sir Alex Ferguson Stand.

How could moving the away fans that far away improve the atmosphere?   

Atmosphere? at Old Trafford?  At the moment the away fans at Old Trafford are a hindrance to be tolerated by the Prawn sandwich munching cockneys.  In addition if they move the away fans it gives them the chance to potentially increase the allocation as they can't sell out their own. 

If any gloryhunting United fan ever tells you he can't go because its impossible to get tickets it might be worth mentioing that if he rings the ticket office he'll be able to get one no problem they've been on general sale to I think all but 2 of Uniteds home games this season.  What I really like is how they try to make the adverts they put in the MEN as small as possible.  I just cut them out and put them on the Gloryhunters desk at work....
 
Title: Re: Villa Fans moved at Old Trafford
Post by: spangley1812 on March 18, 2012, 08:37:04 PM
http://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?topic=46386.0

Is this the same subject................
Title: Re: Villa Fans moved at Old Trafford
Post by: Legion on March 18, 2012, 08:40:12 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: Man United Away Tickets - Change of seating location?
Post by: Handsworth Wood Villa on March 18, 2012, 08:54:12 PM
Real Mancs support City.
Title: Re: Man United Away Tickets - Change of seating location?
Post by: AV82EC on March 18, 2012, 09:27:28 PM
Real Mancs support City.

Rubbish.
Title: Re: Man United Away Tickets - Change of seating location?
Post by: spangley1812 on March 18, 2012, 09:32:21 PM
Real Mancs support City.

Rubbish.

They do...........I read it on Twitter
Title: Re: Man United Away Tickets - Change of seating location?
Post by: D.boy on March 18, 2012, 10:36:52 PM
You must be one of the sheeple who follow twitter.
Title: Re: Man United Away Tickets - Change of seating location?
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 18, 2012, 10:52:09 PM
Real Mancs support City.

Are Real Mancs related to Real Madrid?
Title: Re: Man United Away Tickets - Change of seating location?
Post by: Handsworth Wood Villa on March 18, 2012, 11:01:47 PM
Real Mancs support City.

Rubbish.

Only one football team in Manchester - City.
Title: Re: Man United Away Tickets - Change of seating location?
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 18, 2012, 11:03:15 PM
Real Mancs support City.

Rubbish.

Only one football team in Manchester - City.

And on what do you base this theory?
Title: Re: Man United Away Tickets - Change of seating location?
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 18, 2012, 11:04:28 PM
Real Mancs support City.

Rubbish.

Only one football team in Manchester - City.

And on what do you base this theory?

It's on Fifa 12 somewhere.
Title: Re: Man United Away Tickets - Change of seating location?
Post by: Handsworth Wood Villa on March 18, 2012, 11:08:32 PM
Real Mancs support City.

Rubbish.

Only one football team in Manchester - City.

And on what do you base this theory?

I base it on fact.
Title: Re: Man United Away Tickets - Change of seating location?
Post by: Holte L2 on March 18, 2012, 11:10:06 PM


Read in the Observer today that Man U are thinking of moving the away fans and are trialling things with their game against us and seeing how it goes. Apparently we're in the Gods of the third tier of the Sir Alex Ferguson Stand.

How could moving the away fans that far away improve the atmosphere?   

Atmosphere? at Old Trafford?  At the moment the away fans at Old Trafford are a hindrance to be tolerated by the Prawn sandwich munching cockneys.  In addition if they move the away fans it gives them the chance to potentially increase the allocation as they can't sell out their own. 

If any gloryhunting United fan ever tells you he can't go because its impossible to get tickets it might be worth mentioing that if he rings the ticket office he'll be able to get one no problem they've been on general sale to I think all but 2 of Uniteds home games this season.  What I really like is how they try to make the adverts they put in the MEN as small as possible.  I just cut them out and put them on the Gloryhunters desk at work....
 

A friend of mine from home (Birmingham) phoned me up and asked me if I could get him tickets using my Manchester contacts for Utd v Wigan. I told him every game had been on general sale this season. He told me to shut the fuck up. He's still sat on his arse waiting for his tickets!
Title: Re: Man United Away Tickets - Change of seating location?
Post by: Holte L2 on March 18, 2012, 11:12:22 PM
We live in Manchester. I have more good friends that have season tickets at Old Trafford than at Eastlands. Most Citeh's supporting population is actually in Stockport.
Title: Re: Man United Away Tickets - Change of seating location?
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 18, 2012, 11:16:29 PM
Real Mancs support City.

Rubbish.

Only one football team in Manchester - City.

And on what do you base this theory?

I base it on fact.

Are you a very bad troll, or are you genuinely this stupid?
Title: Re: Man United Away Tickets - Change of seating location?
Post by: pauliewalnuts on March 18, 2012, 11:30:40 PM
Real Mancs support City.

You're like some form of bot, programmed to spout utter bollocks at random points.
Title: Re: Man United Away Tickets - Change of seating location?
Post by: hawkeye on March 18, 2012, 11:36:53 PM
I lived in Manchester for 6 years, played football for 2 different teams, the majority of my mates and team mates were Manure Fans, when we played teams around the inner city it was more blue than red, its just like Brum, it very much depends on the area. To say there are not Mancunian reds is just daft.
Title: Re: Man United Away Tickets - Change of seating location?
Post by: Dave Clark Five on March 18, 2012, 11:53:35 PM
Real Mancs support City.
Real Mancs support City.
What are you called on the Man City fan site? Ancoats City?
Title: Re: Man United Away Tickets - Change of seating location?
Post by: Nev on March 19, 2012, 07:23:56 AM
Newton Heath's away support always appears to be made up of Mancs with a few GH's but it seems to be the opposite way round at Old Trafford.

And I can't see how moving visiting fans away further away from the pitch is going to improve the atmosphere either, I prefer the away fans to be as audible as they can, when games are dull it's the only thing to provoke sleepy home support.
Title: Re: Man United Away Tickets - Change of seating location?
Post by: Legion on March 19, 2012, 07:34:13 AM
Real Mancs support City.

Rubbish.

Only one football team in Manchester - City.

And on what do you base this theory?

I base it on fact.

Are you a very bad troll, or are you genuinely this stupid?

Someone who goes to King Edwards 6th Form I would hope could not be terminally stupid so I'll suggest it's the worst trolling in the history of the internet.
Title: Re: Man United Away Tickets - Change of seating location?
Post by: fredm on March 19, 2012, 08:32:08 AM
Real Mancs support City.

Rubbish.

Only one football team in Manchester - City.

And on what do you base this theory?

I base it on fact.

Are you a very bad troll, or are you genuinely this stupid?

Someone who goes to King Edwards 6th Form I would hope could not be terminally stupid so I'll suggest it's the worst trolling in the history of the internet.

Heaven forbid but I think he is correct about there only being 1 football (league) team in Manchester - I think Utd are located in the City of Salford.
Title: Re: Man United Away Tickets - Change of seating location?
Post by: robbo1874 on March 19, 2012, 08:58:06 AM
Trafford borough I think. Not Manchester anyway.
Title: Re: Man United Away Tickets - Change of seating location?
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on March 19, 2012, 09:33:27 AM
Real Mancs support City.

Rubbish.

Only one football team in Manchester - City.

And on what do you base this theory?

I base it on fact.

Are you a very bad troll, or are you genuinely this stupid?

Someone who goes to King Edwards 6th Form I would hope could not be terminally stupid so I'll suggest it's the worst trolling in the history of the internet.

Heaven forbid but I think he is correct about there only being 1 football (league) team in Manchester - I think Utd are located in the City of Salford.


He is right. I know a City fan who regularly (boringly) labours that point.
Title: Re: Man United Away Tickets - Change of seating location?
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on March 19, 2012, 09:50:12 AM
Yep, Trafford Borough for Man United, not Salford.

Although the nonsense about "real mancs" only supporting Man City is a convenient myth which is generally laughed off by the 50% of "real" mancunians who support Man United.
Title: Re: Man United Away Tickets - Change of seating location?
Post by: Chris Jameson on March 19, 2012, 11:29:04 AM
Whenever i've visited Manchester on non match days I see (or rather notice) far more United fans than City.
Title: Re: Man United Away Tickets - Change of seating location?
Post by: saunders_heroes on March 19, 2012, 11:34:31 AM
Whenever i've visited Manchester on non match days I see (or rather notice) far more United fans than City.

So do I.
Title: Re: Man United Away Tickets - Change of seating location?
Post by: Walmley_Villa on March 19, 2012, 11:36:31 AM
Maybe Citeh fans live in the same mythical world that the noses do with regards to Villa having no fans in B'ham etc...
They've told themselves it so many times that they actually believe it. Unfortunately for them nobody else does.
Title: Re: Man United Away Tickets - Change of seating location?
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on March 19, 2012, 11:44:35 AM
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Whenever i've visited Manchester on non match days I see (or rather notice) far more United fans than City

they're not real mancs though. Man United have them bussed in from satellite towns in Lancashire and Cheshire to fool the tourists
Title: Re: Man United Away Tickets - Change of seating location?
Post by: Ads on March 19, 2012, 01:38:00 PM
Most people in Manchester support Man United. Most people in Stockport support Man City.
Title: Re: Man United Away Tickets - Change of seating location?
Post by: VillaBobby on March 19, 2012, 01:51:44 PM
Is football trying to commit suicide?

The atmosphere at football grounds has been deteriorating for years and putting aways fans as far away from the pitch may give an advantage on the pitch but it kills any chance of enjoying the match for the away support who will eventually give up.
Title: Re: Man United Away Tickets - Change of seating location?
Post by: john e on March 19, 2012, 04:15:52 PM
Most people in Manchester support Man United. Most people in Stockport support Man City.


most people in Newport Pagnell support Man utd
Title: Re: Man United Away Tickets - Change of seating location?
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on March 19, 2012, 04:26:32 PM
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most people in Newport Pagnell support Man utd

typical - they should all support their local team, Newport County
Title: Re: Man United Away Tickets - Change of seating location?
Post by: Handsworth Wood Villa on March 19, 2012, 04:30:08 PM
Okay it's true that Man U do have Manc fans but Man City are more of a Manc club in that a higher % of their fans are from Manchester.

Most Man City fans are from Greater Manchester.

Most Man U fans are not from Greater Manchester.
Title: Re: Man United Away Tickets - Change of seating location?
Post by: Handsworth Wood Villa on March 19, 2012, 04:32:04 PM
when we played teams around the inner city it was more blue than red, its just like Brum

Inner-city Brum is red - Man U, Liverpool and Arsenal.
Title: Re: Man United Away Tickets - Change of seating location?
Post by: john e on March 19, 2012, 04:37:33 PM
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most people in Newport Pagnell support Man utd

typical - they should all support their local team, Newport County


agree, its only 200 mile down the road
Title: Re: Man United Away Tickets - Change of seating location?
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on March 19, 2012, 04:44:01 PM
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Okay it's true that Man U do have Manc fans but Man City are more of a Manc club in that a higher % of their fans are from Manchester.

Most Man City fans are from Greater Manchester.

Most Man U fans are not from Greater Manchester

Really not sure what you're trying to prove here, but Manchester is just about split down the middle in terms of United and City fans, with United maybe having the edge.

Then again, my theory is only based on over 10 years of living up there and as I don't have the advantage of owning FIFA 12 to confirm this, you'll just have to take my word for it, kid.
Title: Re: Man United Away Tickets - Change of seating location?
Post by: Rob92 on March 19, 2012, 04:47:55 PM
When a team has an estimated fanbase of 300m, it's hardly surprising that the majority aren't from Manchester... In my experiences, the majority of Mancunians are United fans. Also, this idea that every single City fan comes from Manchester is total bollocks, I always see City fans on Manchester-bound trains from the south when they're at home...
Title: Re: Man United Away Tickets - Change of seating location?
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 19, 2012, 06:01:48 PM
Everton, Man City, small heath. All play in blue. All are the inferior side in their city. All claim that their respective city is mainly made up of their fans with their superior neighbours being out of town glory hunters.

Everton, Man City, small heath, separated at birth.
Title: Re: Man United Away Tickets - Change of seating location?
Post by: TheSandman on March 19, 2012, 06:16:47 PM
Okay it's true that Man U do have Manc fans but Man City are more of a Manc club in that a higher % of their fans are from Manchester.

Most Man City fans are from Greater Manchester.

Most Man U fans are not from Greater Manchester.


Give it five years and there will be more Man City fans from outside than inside Manchester too.
Title: Re: Man United Away Tickets - Change of seating location?
Post by: AlwaysAVFC on March 19, 2012, 06:50:06 PM
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Okay it's true that Man U do have Manc fans but Man City are more of a Manc club in that a higher % of their fans are from Manchester.

Most Man City fans are from Greater Manchester.

Most Man U fans are not from Greater Manchester

Really not sure what you're trying to prove here, but Manchester is just about split down the middle in terms of United and City fans, with United maybe having the edge.

Then again, my theory is only based on over 10 years of living up there and as I don't have the advantage of owning FIFA 12 to confirm this, you'll just have to take my word for it, kid.

I believe without saying it he's comparing it to the Small Heath propaganda that more people in Birmingham support them than Us. Which we all know is a complete load of bollocks. Manchester is no different apart from its probably a bit more of an even split than in Birmingham.
Title: Re: Man United Away Tickets - Change of seating location?
Post by: charlie659 on March 19, 2012, 07:04:06 PM
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Okay it's true that Man U do have Manc fans but Man City are more of a Manc club in that a higher % of their fans are from Manchester.

Most Man City fans are from Greater Manchester.

Most Man U fans are not from Greater Manchester

Really not sure what you're trying to prove here, but Manchester is just about split down the middle in terms of United and City fans, with United maybe having the edge.

Then again, my theory is only based on over 10 years of living up there and as I don't have the advantage of owning FIFA 12 to confirm this, you'll just have to take my word for it, kid.

I believe without saying it he's comparing it to the Small Heath propaganda that more people in Birmingham support them than Us. Which we all know is a complete load of bollocks. Manchester is no different apart from its probably a bit more of an even split than in Birmingham.
My best mate lived in Worsley for 10 years or more, I spent loads of time up there & Manchester is way more red than blue. Most of the reds detest the 'tourists' and tend to give them a lot of grief at OT.

Title: Re: Man United Away Tickets - Change of seating location?
Post by: Dave Cooper please on March 19, 2012, 07:10:14 PM
Okay it's true that Man U do have Manc fans but Man City are more of a Manc club in that a higher % of their fans are from Manchester.


By that argument Birmingham City are more of a Brum club then because a higher percentage of Blues fans will be from Birmingham than Villa fans who get a lot of support from the satellite towns such as Tamworth, Bromsgrove, Redditch etc.?
Title: Re: Man United Away Tickets - Change of seating location?
Post by: AV82EC on March 19, 2012, 07:27:18 PM
Okay it's true that Man U do have Manc fans but Man City are more of a Manc club in that a higher % of their fans are from Manchester.

Most Man City fans are from Greater Manchester.

Most Man U fans are not from Greater Manchester.


More rubbish.  Do you want another shovel, the hole you're digging is getting deeper.
Title: Re: Man United Away Tickets - Change of seating location?
Post by: Handsworth Wood Villa on March 19, 2012, 07:36:21 PM
Okay it's true that Man U do have Manc fans but Man City are more of a Manc club in that a higher % of their fans are from Manchester.


By that argument Birmingham City are more of a Brum club then because a higher percentage of Blues fans will be from Birmingham than Villa fans who get a lot of support from the satellite towns such as Tamworth, Bromsgrove, Redditch etc.?

Tamworth, Lichfield, Bromsgrove, Redditch etc are basically like Greater Birmingham though.

They don't exactly have different accents than Brummies.

They are basically Brummies.

That is a lot different to Man U and their fans from Devon or Cornwall or Surrey or wherever.

Also Blues get a lot of support from the Solihull borough which we could consider to be outside Birmingham...
Title: Re: Man United Away Tickets - Change of seating location?
Post by: Handsworth Wood Villa on March 19, 2012, 07:42:55 PM
Everton, Man City, small heath. All play in blue. All are the inferior side in their city. All claim that their respective city is mainly made up of their fans with their superior neighbours being out of town glory hunters.

Everton, Man City, small heath, separated at birth.

I agree with Everton and Man City fans.

Most Liverpool and Man U fans are gloryhunting out-of-towners.

However I do not agree with Small Heath.

Most Villa fans are from Greater Birmingham.

I do not consider a Villa fan from Tamworth a gloryhunter or a out-of-towner.
Title: Re: Man United Away Tickets - Change of seating location?
Post by: Handsworth Wood Villa on March 19, 2012, 07:44:47 PM
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Okay it's true that Man U do have Manc fans but Man City are more of a Manc club in that a higher % of their fans are from Manchester.

Most Man City fans are from Greater Manchester.

Most Man U fans are not from Greater Manchester

Really not sure what you're trying to prove here, but Manchester is just about split down the middle in terms of United and City fans, with United maybe having the edge.

Then again, my theory is only based on over 10 years of living up there and as I don't have the advantage of owning FIFA 12 to confirm this, you'll just have to take my word for it, kid.

I believe without saying it he's comparing it to the Small Heath propaganda that more people in Birmingham support them than Us. Which we all know is a complete load of bollocks. Manchester is no different apart from its probably a bit more of an even split than in Birmingham.
My best mate lived in Worsley for 10 years or more, I spent loads of time up there & Manchester is way more red than blue. Most of the reds detest the 'tourists' and tend to give them a lot of grief at OT.

I think this happens with Liverpool as well. Some of the Scouse Reds resent all the Norweigen/Southern/Asian reds who support their club.
Title: Re: Man United Away Tickets - Change of seating location?
Post by: Dave Cooper please on March 19, 2012, 08:10:40 PM
Okay it's true that Man U do have Manc fans but Man City are more of a Manc club in that a higher % of their fans are from Manchester.


By that argument Birmingham City are more of a Brum club then because a higher percentage of Blues fans will be from Birmingham than Villa fans who get a lot of support from the satellite towns such as Tamworth, Bromsgrove, Redditch etc.?

Tamworth, Lichfield, Bromsgrove, Redditch etc are basically like Greater Birmingham though.

They don't exactly have different accents than Brummies.

They are basically Brummies.

That is a lot different to Man U and their fans from Devon or Cornwall or Surrey or wherever.

Also Blues get a lot of support from the Solihull borough which we could consider to be outside Birmingham...

I think you should ask the good people of Tamworth, Redditch, Bromsgrove et al whether they consider themselves to be Brummies before you just decide they are! How about our Black Country friends? Are they Brummies? They speak a bit like Brummies, they live nearer to Brum than someone in Tamworth does.

You really do spout some bollocks!
Title: Re: Man United Away Tickets - Change of seating location?
Post by: Legion on March 19, 2012, 08:11:12 PM
Just a little.
Title: Re: Man United Away Tickets - Change of seating location?
Post by: greenwichvilla on March 19, 2012, 10:26:07 PM
Sorry to go back on topic here. But could moving away supporters to improve atmosphere due to the new location's proximity to the Stretford End?

I seem to remember a few asking the General to move away fans next the Holte a few years back to increase the 'banter' (I hate that word)
Title: Re: Man United Away Tickets - Change of seating location?
Post by: joe_c on March 20, 2012, 12:55:07 AM
Sorry to go back on topic here. But could moving away supporters to improve atmosphere due to the new location's proximity to the Stretford End?

I seem to remember a few asking the General to move away fans next the Holte a few years back to increase the 'banter' (I hate that word)

Banter is the lowest form of wit. Sarcasm pleased and relieved at ruling.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tomchiversscience/100141906/if-you-like-banter-you-are-an-idiot/
Title: Re: Man United Away Tickets - Change of seating location?
Post by: Nev on March 20, 2012, 06:29:07 AM
Some recent (paraphrased) examples of banter include:

"Whats the matter Negrito?"

"someone get down there and tell her the offside rule for god's sake"

"there's something wrong with my mic, look"

And, of course, an old favourite that I'm sure all of us laugh along with:

"F**k off, you Villa c**t!"
Title: Re: Man United Away Tickets - Change of seating location?
Post by: TheTimVilla on March 20, 2012, 07:37:46 AM
Who said the last quote? Ed Milliband?
Title: Banter
Post by: cdbearsfan on March 20, 2012, 09:35:29 AM
I think it was Kate Middleton.
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