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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Shoody on March 02, 2012, 11:35:50 PM
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Mat Kendrick has said there will be a large clear out at Villa this summer (something similar mentioned in Moxley's Olic article, presume there was an interview today, or embargoed till today).
We are, apparently, looking to move on 6 players on large wages and replace them, according to Kendrick (who has stated this on both twitter and in the article below) Darren Bent and Gabby Agbonlahor are two players exempt from this and there are no plans to move either of them on. I personally dont believe the Bent one but I doubt anyone will spend £20m+ on a player coming back from long-term injury anyway. But atleast this should mean keeping Gabby.
Ireland is not exempt from being moved on according to Mat on twitter, so even one of the players performing relatively well at the minute could be moved on.
Cuellar + Guzan both offered new deals with the club, Heskey is to leave.
ALEX McLeish has confirmed Villa will be in the market to pay transfer fees and bring in free Bosmans during a planned summer squad overhaul.
It is believed the claret and blues would ideally like to move on half-a-dozen players and bring in replacements during the close season.
This week’s figures showing record £54 million losses for 2010-11 will not prevent the manager from receiving funding to overhaul the playing staff.
Chairman Randy Lerner believes Villa are well on their way to managing the deficit and achieving a break even figure within the next two seasons. But, although transfer funds will be made available in the summer, the club will still be keeping a very tight rein on the players’ wage bill.
Therefore, with the squad payroll finally close to a level acceptable to the board, players will have to leave to free up salaries for new recruits.
However, McLeish, pictured, has reassured supporters that the club have no intention of sacrificing prized assets Darren Bent and Gabby Agbonlahor.
Asked if there will be transfer funds in the summer, McLeish replied: “Yes. Listen, we have tried to do the homework right now because we are being prudent.
“That is why we have tried to scout as many good Bosmans as we can, but there are targets as well that cost money.
“I am sure the chairman would do massive wages again as long as it was kept inside the framework and parameters.
“I can assure the fans we will be in the market for players who cost money, but we are only targeting a couple of those types of players.
“We’ve already made some plans to bring some players in. We’ve looked at a lot of players that we have a good chance of bringing to the club.
“I know it’s a little bit gloomy at the moment, but I definitely believe that Villa will come out of this well.”
McLeish might have to cash in on some of Villa’s first-team players to stamp his mark on the club and free up space on the wage bill.
Emile Heskey, Brad Guzan and Carlos Cuellar are out of contract at the end of this season, although the latter two have been offered fresh terms, while the deals of James Collins, Richard Dunne, Stephen Warnock and Stiliyan Petrov expire in summer 2013.
It will also be interesting to observe what Villa decide about the futures of Jean Makoun, Stephen Ireland, Fabian Delph and Nathan Delfouneso.
Asked if there was scope for a drastic overhaul in the summer, McLeish replied: “In the light of the figures? It would depend on trading.
“I couldn’t keep everybody and add to the squad, we’d have to trade carefully.
“Again, like I said in January, if somebody coveted one of our players who maybe I had to sacrifice to strengthen other positions then that’s something that could be the way ahead in terms of the plans.
“It just depends on who was available to come in.
“I do have to stamp my own personality on the team. I’ve not been able to do that.
“But that was something I took on and something I agreed to. We bought three players in and it was agreed that we would keep trying to drive the wages to a certain level before we started doing business again.”
Questioned specifically about whether Villa would listen to offers for Bent and Agbonlahor, now regarded as the claret and blues’ crown jewels, McLeish replied: “No, there’d be some players that we’d obviously like to hold on to for the long run.”
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I would guess 6 players to move on would be:
Dunne, Petrov, Warnock, Ireland, Collins and one of Makoun or Delph (probably Makoun). Unless they are including Heskey in this too.
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I wouldn't lose sleep over any of those, as long as we got some decent replacements.
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All sounds very convincing and practical.
Only problem is he already has players on the books good enough to get a far better response than we have seen.
Generally with attacking players you accept that they might be enigmatic, they might have the talent but not suit a particular managers vision. This happens. If we'd got a degree of consistency out of any two (or even one FFS) of Bannan, Delph, Ireland, N'Zog or Albrighton our season would probably look a fair bit brighter.
But he's failed with pretty much all of them. And turned a £24 million forward into Cameron Jerome. Even Ireland - who was showing promise earlier in the new year, is now on the bench. Takes a pretty dire manager to waste all that talent.
Factor into that that the bulk of his signings to date have been more miss than hit and I genuinely don't see an argument in letting him have even more money to throw at the thing in the summer. If finances are tight, we need to make what money we do have stretch as far as possible.
I wouldn't trust him as far as I can throw him, in all honesty.
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Move on Dunne, Collins, warnock, heskey, Fonz thats 5 already, not half way enough. Does need a squad overhall but I'm not sure that I want him to bring in new players
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It's one thing saying there will be a clear out. However finding clubs willing to buy these players is another thing. Also the wages at Villa are likely to be higher than elsewhere so more than a good chance the players in question might do a Heskey or Beye and refuse to leave.
Stephen Ireland has played well under McLeish but he seemingly has not forgiven him for the bust up at Newcastle. On big money but he is a talent worth persevering with imo
Big need for a shakeup at the club but that includes at management level and board level too.
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"I do have to stamp my own personality on the team.I've not been able to do that."
The seventeen most frightening words I have ever read in the history of football ever.
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"I do have to stamp my own personality on the team.I've not been able to do that."
The seventeen most frightening words I have ever read in the history of football ever.
Not as bad as "Heskey is starting"
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"I do have to stamp my own personality on the team.I've not been able to do that."
The seventeen most frightening words I have ever read in the history of football ever.
Not as bad as "Heskey is starting"
...on the left wing"
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I'm not suprised if Ireland is in the exit-cart: although good on his day, his temperament is not great for the squad and probaby not 'presbyterian' enough for McL.
If next season's manager can release BB's talent, he'll fit the bill in the role Ireland plays. A big 'if' though.
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"I do have to stamp my own personality on the team.I've not been able to do that."
The seventeen most frightening words I have ever read in the history of football ever.
When I read the article last night that horrified me. Do we want him bringing in his players? I shudder to think where our money would be spent.
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I've heard that Legion is being sold to Wolves
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"I do have to stamp my own personality on the team.I've not been able to do that."
The seventeen most frightening words I have ever read in the history of football ever.
Not as bad as "Heskey is starting"
...in right midfield."
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Think the strategy makes sense. Most would agree we have players at the club who are probably being paid more than their ability warrants. Moving these types of players on and replacing and saving X amount on the wage bill makes perfect sense.
With some of our younger players coming through, some experienced Bosman transfers to help settle these in is also to be applauded.
I think it's good that the club are being honest in their assessment of how they are looking to progress forward. Whether this message should be coming from the owners or the managers or a combined message is debatable.
Whether we have the right manager making these decisions is getting ample discussion elsewhere....
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Probably looking at 2 players for small fees and the rest on Bosmans.
Very wanky and even worse that this clown will be choosing them.
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I think there are only a handful of players who I'd be sad to leave Villa. I'm glad Bent and Gabby won't be moving on, but I'm hard pushed to think of others who aren't a waste of space.
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Doesn't fill you up with much confidence for next season.
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As long as the players coming in are on 2 year contracts max so that if it is decided not to renew AM's contract the new manager is not left with players he doesn't want.
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Beye hasnt been mentioned but he will be one off the bill, how many millions has he cost in transer and wages?
I reckon Brad will move on for first team footy together with Carlos and Heskey,all out of contract, so who else? Stan, Jean 11 Ireland
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I think there are only a handful of players who I'd be sad to leave Villa. I'm glad Bent and Gabby won't be moving on, but I'm hard pushed to think of others who aren't a waste of space.
We have few heroes these days. I'd be sad if Petrov left.
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I would too, as it happens. I meant to mention him too.
Edit: Beye has already left, sadly.
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This really does make depressing reading, but at least he's showing some honesty. Pretty poor of Lerner and Faulkner to leave him out to dry to deliver the black and white "dumbing down" message we have been after for a while. Just how it has come to this so quickly beggars belief, do they not realise that this is the route to the championship!
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Petrov can still do a job, though it depends what kind of money he's on. I'm sure our excellent scouting network could find a cheaper alternative abroad.
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I don't mind the usual suspects leaving I just hope we sign better replacements for them I'm glad we will keep Gabby and Bent at Villa.
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I don't think it'll be that cut and dry regarding Bent. If he wants and pushes for a move, or we get a decent enough offer then he'll be gone. Gabby is Villa through and through so he'll definitely stay.
As for the rest of the bigger earners, there's no one I wouldn't sell. I don't think any of them have done enough. Piss poor management or not, they haven't done enough, probably bar Petrov, but Stan is coming up to 34 so I'd still be looking to sell.
I'd also cut my losses with N'Zogbia.
Of course all this is dependant on McLeish (who sadly will be our manager next season) spending wisely, and then getting the best out of his side and trying to play more ambitious football.
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I son't really want rid of Ireland or Petrov at this stage. Ireland has again been unlucky imho, being dropped without doing a lot wrong while in the form of his short time with us. I think Petrov still offers something to the midfield, a bit of composure that most of our other players lack. I wouldn't be sad to see the rest of those on the OP list go though.
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Petrov can still do a job, though it depends what kind of money he's on. I'm sure our excellent scouting network could find a cheaper alternative abroad.
Maybe you could find his equal on paper, but we need somebody in the squad who seems to care about the club and has served it well through good and bad times. I always think it's important to have the right balance between change and continuity.
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Beye hasnt been mentioned but he will be one off the bill, how many millions has he cost in transer and wages?
about £8,000,000
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Makes sense to move 6 or so players out
Just don`t want AM bringing new ones in (to stamp his personality on them)
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Just think of the quality of players that will be on frees. Inspiring isn't it? If you want the best you have to.pay.
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If AMC is still here , we are in serious trouble next season.
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Keep:
Given, Guzan,
Cuellar, Clark, Baker, Lichaj
Herd, Petrov, Bannan, Albrighton, Delph, Gardner
Bent, Agbonlahor, Weimann
Sell: Hutton, Warnock, Dunne, Collins, Ireland, N'Zogbia, Makoun, Heskey, Delfouneso
What we need to do more than anything is remove the stench of unprofessionalism that has hung over the squad for the last two years. Anyone with a hint of a bad attitude needs to be got rid of which includes, despite being very good players, Ireland and N'Zogbia.
Bring in 1 x CF, 1 x attacking midfield, 2 x wingers, 1 x RB, 1 x LB, 1 x CB. That's 7 in total and clearly never going to happen.
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I think there are only a handful of players who I'd be sad to leave Villa. I'm glad Bent and Gabby won't be moving on, but I'm hard pushed to think of others who aren't a waste of space.
We have few heroes these days. I'd be sad if Petrov left.
I have heard via someone close to Petrov that he is likely to move on in the Summer. He is unlikely to get another contract of any length in 2013 so would be looking for 2/3 years elsewhere.
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does'nt matter who he brings in, It's his style of play thats the problem, AM did bring in hleb for the blues from barcelona and could'nt work out what to do with him, apparently hleb wanted to pass the ball on the floor.
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Yep I agree it's the style of play that's the issue, which is why I think he needs to go. I've seen nothing to suggest he can alter his style for any prelonged period, so there's no point in continuing with him.
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Keep:
Given, Guzan,
Cuellar, Clark, Baker, Lichaj
Herd, Petrov, Bannan, Albrighton, Delph, Gardner
Bent, Agbonlahor, Weimann
Sell: Hutton, Warnock, Dunne, Collins, Ireland, N'Zogbia, Makoun, Heskey, Delfouneso
What we need to do more than anything is remove the stench of unprofessionalism that has hung over the squad for the last two years. Anyone with a hint of a bad attitude needs to be got rid of which includes, despite being very good players, Ireland and N'Zogbia.
Sounds good to me SV
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Sound good but I would keep Ireland as well.
I would like a clear out then appoint AVB as new manager and start new look with beautiful attacking football with home grown players and foreign talents and Darren Bent and Shay Given. We need someone to turn us from boring Arsenal era to exciting passing Arsenal era like Arsene Wenger.
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Sell: Hutton....N'Zogbia
Sadly never going to happen - AML isn't going to 'clear out' two of the three players he signed 12 months previous.
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I'd only keep Given, Bent, Gardner, Herd, N'Zogbia and Ireland. The rest I'd be open to offers for.
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I'd only keep Given, Bent, Gardner, Herd, N'Zogbia and Ireland. The rest I'd be open to offers for.
Add Clark and I agree.
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I'd only keep Given, Bent, Gardner, Herd, N'Zogbia and Ireland. The rest I'd be open to offers for.
Add Clark and I agree.
Gabby?
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It doesn't send a very good message to the squad at an important time of the season.
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I'd keep - Given, Guzen, Cuellar, Baker, Lichaj, Herd, Bannan, Petrov (subject to length of deal), Albrighton, Gardner, Bent, Gabby, Wiemann, N'Zogbia.
I'd look at keeping Ireland, too, as he's starting to show some form, but it really depends how much he's on. If he's on 40 or 50k a week, which I suspect he isn't, I'd keep him. If he's on mental money, like 70 or 80, I'd move him on
The rest I'd happily wave off.
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I'd only keep Given, Bent, Gardner, Herd, N'Zogbia and Ireland. The rest I'd be open to offers for.
Add Clark and I agree.
Gabby?
Depends on the offer. 12 plus I would sell.
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I would consider decent bids for everyone of our current players.
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Ireland on a reported (which doesnt equal fact necessarily) 60-65k per week.
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I'd only keep Given, Bent, Gardner, Herd, N'Zogbia and Ireland. The rest I'd be open to offers for.
Add Clark and I agree.
Gabby?
Depends on the offer. 12 plus I would sell.
Yep, me too.
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“I can assure the fans we will be in the market for players who cost money, but we are only targeting a couple of those types of players."
While I'm pleased to hear that we are looking to move on the dross and the overpaid and can begin the next stage of overhauling the squad, this line worries me. Just a couple of players who will cost a transfer fee?
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That surprises me.
I'd have been more inclined to think about it in the past, but this season, I reckon he's come on as a player a great deal, and added a lot more to his game.
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BTW, I would:
Keep
Given, Guzan
Lichaj, Cuellar, Clark, Hutton, Baker, Stevens
Albrighton, Herd, Gardner, Ireland, Delph, N'Zogbia, Bannan.
Bent, Agbonlahor, Weimann, Delfouneso
Sell/release
Heskey, Petrov, Collins, Dunne, Warnock, Makoun
Leaving us to find:
Two CBs, one LB, one/two CMs.
Eyes on Siegrist, Williams, Burke, Carruthers, Johnson supplementing the senior squad.
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“I can assure the fans we will be in the market for players who cost money, but we are only targeting a couple of those types of players."
While I'm pleased to hear that we are looking to move on the dross and the overpaid and can begin the next stage of overhauling the squad, this line worries me. Just a couple of players who will cost a transfer fee?
I know what you mean, but if they've identified who they want and they happen to be mainly Bosmans, I'm OK with it.
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That surprises me.
I'd have been more inclined to think about it in the past, but this season, I reckon he's come on as a player a great deal, and added a lot more to his game.
He has in parts Paulie, but he is too inconsistent in front of goal and not as good a winger as others, with the way the game is going I would love to keep him as back up for Bent, but he will never be happy with that. 1 up front looks like being the way for a couple of seasons, and I would prefer my number 9 to carry a goal threat than win plaudits for working hard.
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Keep:-
Given, Guzan, Hutton, Lichaj, Cuellar, Clark, Baker, Stevens, Herd, Gardner, Petrov, Ireland, Bannan, Albrighton, N'Zogbia, Gabby, Bent & Weimann.
Sell/release:-
Warnock, Dunne, Collins, Heskey & Makoun.
The way I'd see it, we'd be looking to keep Carlos and Petrov for another year as experienced back up, with the combination of Clark, Herd & Gardner more regularly partnering a new CB and DCM.
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Is Dunne's contract up, I thought it was just Heskey?
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Heskey's Misses on twitter saying she wants Heskey to be offered new contract! Please no!
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Heskey's Misses on twitter saying she wants Heskey to be offered new contract! Please no!
I'd be happy for him to get a new contract - with anyone but Villa! I will be interesting to see what level of club are up for signing a non-scoring defensive left winger.
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Imo we need:
GK (Joe Lewis £FREE)
2CB's (Scott Dann £4m, Lewis Dunk £1m)
RB (Clyne £300k@tribunal)
LB (Figueroa £FREE)
DM (Diame £FREE)
CM (Davis £FREE)
Wng (Elm £5m or Verhoek £FREE or Hoilett £300k@tribunal)
Str (Olic? £FREE)
£10.3m for 9 players wouldnt be bad lol. Would be fucking amazing business if completely unrealistic.
Sell:
Dunne £3m (£2.6m in wages)
Collins £3m (£2.6m in wages)
Warnock £2m (£2.3m in wages)
Petrov £1.5m (£2.8m in wages)
Ireland £3m (£3.6m in wages) - dont want to but 70k a week makes him likely to be pushed on.
Makoun £2m (£1.5m in wages)
Heskey £Free (£3.1m in wages)
Guzan £Free (£1m in wages)
Beye £Free (gone) (£2m in wages)
£14.5m (hopefully more) and £21.5m in wages saved over next 12 months.
I can dream of
-----------Given
Clyne Dann Clark Figueroa
-----------Diame
------Gardner-Elm
Marc----------------NZogbia
-----------Bent
Bench: Guz, Lichaj, Dunk, Herd, Davis, Gabby, Bannan
Squad: Weimann, Fonz, Stevens, Siegrist, Baker, Carruthers, Graham, Burke.
Other than a poor, if promising, squad the first 11 would be very good and a vast improvement on what we currently have.
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I'd only keep Given, Bent, Gardner, Herd, N'Zogbia and Ireland. The rest I'd be open to offers for.
I think Ireland will be for the cull. Possibly even Charles N'Steady, if McLeish hangs about. Both decent players, but not being utilised properly. The fallout with Big Eck can't have helped either. For the wages they command, they need to be big first team players for us.
As for players we can attract, realistically we'll be restricted to the better players from lower mid table/ relegated sides or players from the lower divisions for the most part. So maybe Dann at Blackburn, Leon Britton and Ashley Williams (Villa fan) at Swansea, Holden from Bolton and Rhodes from Huddersfield.
A lot will depend on the money we raise from outgoing transfers of course. We've made noises about wanting to keep Bent, but we said the same about Downing. He's probably our most saleable asset, so cashing in on him seems likely.
Also have a feeling we might be in for McGeady, if we jettison the Zog.
As for out of contract players, as illustrated on the other thread there are some decent options. Can't see us being a hugely attractive option for the better players mind. If Given was to depart I could see us going for Craig Gordon at Martin O'Neill's Sunderland. (c)
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I wouldn't mind Dann and Hoilett from Blackburn when they get relegated. Ashley Williams from Swansea City when we get rid of Collins, perhaps and all Wales swap? We are deserate for midfield quality as well. Flamini on a Bosman would be good. I like the sound of an overhaul as it sounds like an exciting sumer ahead, the only trouble is, do I want McLeish to be the one overseeing it? Er, no.
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Blimey, that is pie in the sky, Shoody. In particular, as you have released Guzan but still seem to expect him to warm the bench.
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I wouldn't mind Dann and Hoilett from Blackburn when they get relegated. Ashley Williams from Swansea City when we get rid of Collins, perhaps and all Wales swap? We are deserate for midfield quality as well. Flamini on a Bosman would be good. I like the sound of an overhaul as it sounds like an exciting sumer ahead, the only trouble is, do I want McLeish to be the one overseeing it? Er, no.
Get in Dyer and Britton from Swansea too. Also a couple of lively forwards.
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Imo we need:
GK (Joe Lewis £FREE)
2CB's (Scott Dann £4m, Lewis Dunk £1m)
RB (Clyne £300k@tribunal)
LB (Figueroa £FREE)
DM (Diame £FREE)
CM (Davis £FREE)
Wng (Elm £5m or Verhoek £FREE or Hoilett £300k@tribunal)
Str (Olic? £FREE)
£10.3m for 9 players wouldnt be bad lol. Would be fucking amazing business if completely unrealistic.
Sell:
Dunne £3m (£2.6m in wages)
Collins £3m (£2.6m in wages)
Warnock £2m (£2.3m in wages)
Petrov £1.5m (£2.8m in wages)
Ireland £3m (£3.6m in wages) - dont want to but 70k a week makes him likely to be pushed on.
Makoun £2m (£1.5m in wages)
Heskey £Free (£3.1m in wages)
Guzan £Free (£1m in wages)
Beye £Free (gone) (£2m in wages)
£14.5m (hopefully more) and £21.5m in wages saved over next 12 months.
I can dream of
-----------Given
Clyne Dann Clark Figueroa
-----------Diame
------Gardner-Elm
Marc----------------NZogbia
-----------Bent
Bench: Guz, Lichaj, Dunk, Herd, Davis, Gabby, Bannan
Squad: Weimann, Fonz, Stevens, Siegrist, Baker, Carruthers, Graham, Burke.
Other than a poor, if promising, squad the first 11 would be very good and a vast improvement on what we currently have.
The problem with that (other than Guzan leaving yet still playing for us!) is the wages. You haven't mentioned the wages of the incoming players, but if we can hold the total that would mean £21.5m spread over 9 players, which is about £46k a week average. That might be possible, but as Bosmans they'd be looking for top dollar and big signing on fees.
Also, the players leaving still under contract won't get the same money elsewhere, so will be looking for a pay off. Between the 5 under contract (Dunne, Collins, Petrov, Warnock & Ireland), you'd be looking at up to £7m to see them out the door.
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I wouldn't mind Dann and Hoilett from Blackburn when they get relegated. Ashley Williams from Swansea City when we get rid of Collins, perhaps and all Wales swap? We are deserate for midfield quality as well. Flamini on a Bosman would be good. I like the sound of an overhaul as it sounds like an exciting sumer ahead, the only trouble is, do I want McLeish to be the one overseeing it? Er, no.
I can’t see us getting Hoilett, I think he could get a move to a top 4 club seems his contract is up and I think Flamini would be on massive wages so I don’t think we’ve got much chance there either. I wouldn’t mind Williams and Dann as a new central defense though.
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Would love Matt Phillips (Blackpool), much better than Redmond at the Dog Shit.
Wouldn't say no to Scott Sinclair at Swansea.
Although I doubt we'll be able to afford them if we're shopping in the bargain basement.
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I’d let Ireland, Hutton, Warnock and Makoun all leave in the summer. Heskey will be gone as well.
I’d keep Petrov for one more season to help out the younger midfielders coming in but use him more sparingly and I’d keep N’Zogbia, he’s a good player and it just about getting it out of him on a regular basis.
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The problem with that (other than Guzan leaving yet still playing for us!) is the wages. You haven't mentioned the wages of the incoming players, but if we can hold the total that would mean £21.5m spread over 9 players, which is about £46k a week average. That might be possible, but as Bosmans they'd be looking for top dollar and big signing on fees.
Also, the players leaving still under contract won't get the same money elsewhere, so will be looking for a pay off. Between the 5 under contract (Dunne, Collins, Petrov, Warnock & Ireland), you'd be looking at up to £7m to see them out the door.
Meant to say keep Guzan but sign Lewis if he does leave, ideally i'd like him to stay.
I dont know the wages of the incoming players but I could guess...where as there is a pretty good idea of what most of our outgoings are actually on Its a staggering amount and I think we'll be surprised at the wages we could get players on if we actually tried. (Up until his new contract Beye was on more per week than Bale) :'(
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Arsenal have agreed to sign Lukas Podolski for £10.9 mill, what a signing that will be. Would have been a more than useful Emile replacement.
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Arsenal have agreed to sign Lukas Podolski for £10.9 mill, what a signing that will be. Would have been a more than useful Emile replacement.
Bye bye RVP?
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(Up until his new contract Beye was on more per week than Bale) :'(
And therein lies an issue for us.
Even if we get a batch of new players on lower contracts, any success we have with them will need to be reflected in the improved contracts they will ask for.
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Arsenal have agreed to sign Lukas Podolski for £10.9 mill, what a signing that will be. Would have been a more than useful Emile replacement.
Bye bye RVP?
Possibly although if the figures indicated are true it would indicate a change in philiosophy at Arseanl. Firstly Podolski is a proven international rather than an up and comer, and secondly if he is going to be on £100,000 a week that I think would be outside their standard wage structure. So potentially they might offer RVP a lot more.
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I like the sound of the clear out but my fear is that we will only replace what we have got rid of and then we still have a waffer thin squad. We cant rely on a bench full of our younsgters / reserve team players. we need experienced players especially if we have another bout of injuries.
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"I do have to stamp my own personality on the team.I've not been able to do that."
The seventeen most frightening words I have ever read in the history of football ever.
Talking to my Blues mate about this. Apparently McLeish was saying the same thing right up to his last season there.
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I think that RVP might stay there after all,Wenger is rebuilding a decent side there at the moment.
We need to hit the ground running this summer transfer wise, moving people on speedily to make space for those coming in. A couple of youngish players that will excite the crowd would be my biggest hope. Phillips is in that ilk.
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An attacking winger who is worth looking at is Gabriel Torje at Udinese, but they probably wouldn't sell.
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The problem again is who can we move on? I'd LOVE to see Dunne go but really no-one is gonna pay him anywhere near what we do.
My list would be
Brad Jnr - like him but he's not gonna get the chance to step up here unfortunately
Heskey - obv.
Warnock,Dunne - These two will have to be prised from the dressing room by their fingertips so i'm not hopeful
Petrov.- too old
Fonz - not gonna make the grade
Sadly i'd also consider letting Bent go IF we got a mental offer and were given the full money to spend. He's the only asset we have thats likely to generate any funds for rebuilding and its looks like we're gonna need it.
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The problem again is who can we move on? I'd LOVE to see Dunne go but really no-one is gonna pay him anywhere near what we do.
When is his contract up?
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I'd like to see Ashley Williams from Swansea, Diame from Wigan for next season. Flamini on a free would be great too. Get rid of Petrov, Heskey, Warnock and save a few quid on their salary.
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Apparently there is an announcement today regarding a "signing of sorts".
According to Mysteryman on VT. And it's not Davis, thank fuck.
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It'll probably be that Wylde dude who walked out on Rangers? although, McLeish said something like he wasn't going to poach from Rangers, good job really, they're players are a bit poo.
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It isn't poaching if he's already walked away from the club.
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It's probably this.
Green Motion limited Is to become 'Preferred Car Rental Supplier' for AVFC
http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2653247,00.html
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I hope not, otherwise Mysteryman is going to look like a complete cu... err, fool. Sorry Pauline.
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I hope not, otherwise Mysteryman is going to look like a complete cu... err, fool. Sorry Pauline.
Haha, no need to apologise, and yes, if it is he will look a bit of a div.
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Oh God, I bet it's that.
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That's not even a sponsorship deal though just a "relationship". It's so... unremarkable.
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A "signing of sorts", then.
If we brought someone in on a free, it's still a signing. If we announced a signing for next season, it's still a signing.
Signing of sorts is meant to grab our interest for what is ultimately.. nothing.
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New contract for Carlos maybe?
"It's like a..."
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New contract for Carlos maybe?
"It's like a..."
If it is, then it's very welcome news!
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It's probably this.
Green Motion limited Is to become 'Preferred Car Rental Supplier' for AVFC
http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2653247,00.html
Oh no Enterprise are the only ones for me , disaster
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We've been linked with German born USA international Jermaine Jones from Schalke.
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The club are close to completing a Bosman signing. If they're smart it will be a good one as they've announced season ticket details but I'm not holding my breath.
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We've been linked with German born USA international Jermaine Jones from Schalke.
He is bloody useless, I remember his brief spell at Blackburn.
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The club are close to completing a Bosman signing. If they're smart it will be a good one as they've announced season ticket details but I'm not holding my breath.
Knowing Villa, the "Bosman" signing will actually be Jean-Marc Bosman himself.
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Where did you see we are close to completing a Bosman signing Maz?
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The club are close to completing a Bosman signing. If they're smart it will be a good one as they've announced season ticket details but I'm not holding my breath.
Diarra who played against us in the second half for Fulham looks quite tidy, he'd have been a useful signing.
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Where did you see we are close to completing a Bosman signing Maz?
Matt Kendrick
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As I understand the rules, talking to/announcing a Bosman this early means it'll be an overseas player as they can't talk to clubs domestically until their contract actually runs out.
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The Bosman list for this summer
Linky :o (http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/suche/detailsuchespieler/suche.html?searchId=1095)
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The Bosman list for this summer
Linky :o (http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/suche/detailsuchespieler/suche.html?searchId=1095)
Market values look a bit off, but there's plenty on that list who would improve our squad.
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I would take Diame and Figueroa off Wigan on bosmans.
Both would be good signings. Can't see many of the others on the first couple of pages coming.
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Zat Knight and Nicky Shorey on free's anyone? ;)
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Having a quick look at that list. Here's a few players I think we could realistically go for. (I don't know that much about the younger players absed abroad) - There's a few older ones that may want a Premier Legue swansong, but wages might be huge for the likes of Seedorf, Ambrosini, Nesta & Del Piero etc.
David (Jnr) Hoilett - Spurs are meant to be interested. Could see us a good stepping stone ala Milner, Young and Downing.
Rodallega, Figueroa & Diame from Wigan - All decent players.
Craig Gordon - We'd need backup for Given if Guzan goes, still young enough to then be number 1 in the future.
Ivica Olic - Read somewhere recently that we was interested. Probably bollocks.
Andy Johnson - Fulham. Useful squad player.
Louis Saha - Doing Ok at Spurs. Dodgy Injury record however.
Djemba-Djemba, Bouma and Mellberg all on there too.
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Zenden.
Edit: Just a guess.
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Zat Knight and Nicky Shorey on free's anyone? ;)
Both will be going to sit on Sunderlands bench.
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Zenden.
Possibly.
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Darijo Srna
Jefferson Farfan
Mathieu Flamini
Riccardo Montolivo
Hoillett
Dzagoev
If Carlsberg made free transfers..
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flamini would be useful. Could see an Arsenal return for him. Maybe even a club like Chelsea.
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Farfan Flamini Montolivo Hoilett
Raul
Drogba
Be nice to watch that front six in a Villa shirt.
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Raul and Drogba would skint out our wage budget.
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Would increase several revenue streams though, and be a damn site more exciting to watch than the current offering
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Farfan Flamini Montolivo Hoilett
Raul
Drogba
Be nice to watch that front six in a Villa shirt.
One of them would have to sit out for Emile, of course.
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Hoilett would be great, he and say an Olic or similar would give us some exciting forward options. Maybe Diame for centre mid. Can't make my mind up with the defence as to whether or not it will need wholesale changes, I suppose a minimum 2 additions, maybe 3 if Clark is to be primarily used in midfield.
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Farfan Flamini Montolivo Hoilett
Raul
Drogba
Be nice to watch that front six in a Villa shirt.
One of them would have to sit out for Emile, of course.
Not necessarily.
Like Beckenbauer, Matthaus and the other greats, he'll just move further back.
The legs might have gone a bit but the brain will still be as sharp as ever.
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Farfan Flamini Montolivo Hoilett
Raul
Drogba
Be nice to watch that front six in a Villa shirt.
One of them would have to sit out for Emile, of course.
I thought that was a given, John ;-)