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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: DeKuip on September 28, 2011, 11:49:37 AM

Title: "Oh Neuer what I done?"
Post by: DeKuip on September 28, 2011, 11:49:37 AM
Possibly the best goalkeeper in the world, but Bayern's Manuel Neuer has been well and truly put in his place by Bayern fans. It makes me wonder what conditions we could lay down to some of our signings? Personally, I just want Stephen Ireland to keep his shorts on if he scores and Richard Dunne to refrain from farting when we're defending the Holte End.

Full story
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-city/8790863/Bayern-Munich-v-Manchester-City-Manuel-Neuers-brilliance-masks-a-bitter-feud-with-fans.html
 (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-city/8790863/Bayern-Munich-v-Manchester-City-Manuel-Neuers-brilliance-masks-a-bitter-feud-with-fans.html)


An extract....

By selecting Bayern, he was immediately portrayed as a 'Judas' at Schalke, but rather than relish the prospect of depriving their rivals of one of the world's best goalkeepers, supporters in Bavaria issued warnings urging Neuer to think again and stay well away.
After the Trentino game, however, the Bayern hierarchy convened face-to-face talks between the 25 year-old and his critics on the terraces.
A truce was reached but the conditions included the bemused keeper having to agree to a five-point code of conduct issued by a group of Bayern 'Ultras,' including the menacingly-named 'Munich Maniacs'96,' Neuer was told he must never 'sing fan chants on their megaphone,' 'kneel in front of the team and sing the traditional 'Humba' song,' 'approach the Ultras' enclosure,' 'throw his shirt into the crowd,' or 'kiss the Bayern badge.'
A statement issued by the Ultras said: "If Manuel Neuer observes the rules of conduct and maintains a respectful distance (from us), there will be no more protests or organised demonstrations against him.''

Title: Re: "Oh Neuer what I done?"
Post by: Mazrim on September 28, 2011, 12:23:26 PM
He should release a statement telling them to fuck off and grow up.

Are they called Ultras because they're stuck up c**ts?
Title: Re: "Oh Neuer what I done?"
Post by: not3bad on September 28, 2011, 12:47:47 PM
Can we organise a meeting between Tevez and the Citeh fans?
Title: Re: "Oh Neuer what I done?"
Post by: Stu on September 28, 2011, 12:51:15 PM
He should release a statement telling them to fuck off and grow up.

Are they called Ultras because they're stuck up c**ts?

I know. And where was the manager/club in all of this? It's the managers job to shield one of his signings from this kind of nonsense.
Title: Re: "Oh Neuer what I done?"
Post by: willywombat on September 28, 2011, 01:19:45 PM
What a bunch of wankers!
Title: Re: "Oh Neuer what I done?"
Post by: Richie on September 28, 2011, 01:31:59 PM
They are all obviously still bitter and twisted after 26 May 1982
Title: Re: "Oh Neuer what I done?"
Post by: dom73 on September 28, 2011, 09:19:50 PM
The animosity aimed at Neuer goes a little deeper than him just playing for a rival club.Reports suggest that Neuer had very close links to the schalke ultras who in turn have had plenty of history with Bayern off the pitch.The bayern ultras may be over the top but german fans must be applauded for their support,passion and atmosphere they create at their games.They put plenty of our premiership supporting fans to shame.
Title: Re: "Oh Neuer what I done?"
Post by: Hopadop on September 28, 2011, 09:44:20 PM
Come to the Villa, Manuel. So long as you don't gob into the Holte you'll be ok. In fact, that's fine too.
Title: Re: "Oh Neuer what I done?"
Post by: Stu on September 28, 2011, 09:48:12 PM
The animosity aimed at Neuer goes a little deeper than him just playing for a rival club.Reports suggest that Neuer had very close links to the schalke ultras who in turn have had plenty of history with Bayern off the pitch.The bayern ultras may be over the top but german fans must be applauded for their support,passion and atmosphere they create at their games.They put plenty of our premiership supporting fans to shame.

Being great fans in other aspects doesn't give them carte blanche to act like a bunch of tossers in regard to this. So fucking childish.
Title: Re: "Oh Neuer what I done?"
Post by: luke25 on September 28, 2011, 09:51:49 PM
I read just before he signed for Bayern that the Ultra's, fans, whatever you want to call them had demonstrated against the signing due to Neuer mocking an Oliver Kahn salute during a game were Shalke won at Bayern, hence why the anomositity towards him.
Title: Re: "Oh Neuer what I done?"
Post by: dom73 on September 29, 2011, 09:54:43 PM
Nobody,especially myself would give them carte blanche to act in this manner.my comment about german fans was not aimed at the ultras but german supporters in general.
Title: Re: "Oh Neuer what I done?"
Post by: timeoutbigbar on September 29, 2011, 10:49:36 PM
He'll be alright so long as he does a lap of the Allianz Arena hopping on one leg wearing Lederhosen.  An initiation ritual if you will.
Title: Re: "Oh Neuer what I done?"
Post by: Lambert and Payne on September 30, 2011, 07:47:44 AM
Absolutely pathetic, do whatever you can to leave Manuel, there's a lovely little place I know of in England that will accept you, how do you feel about a move to Villa?
Title: Re: "Oh Neuer what I done?"
Post by: Blackcountry Villa on September 30, 2011, 09:24:10 AM
Can we draw up a five point code of conduct?

Collins isn't allowed to HOOOOF it
Petrov isn't allowed to do Cruyff turns
Heskey isn't allowed on the pitch
Darren Bent and Shay Given aren't allowed to leave, if they do they will be kidnapped and tortured until they agree to stay
Alex McLeish isn't allowed within 50 miles of Villa Park
Title: Re: "Oh Neuer what I done?"
Post by: Villanation on September 30, 2011, 09:48:57 AM
Germans in general can make some very strange decisions and a weird way of looking at things, look at this decision they have made yesterday on this bail out nonsense, who in there right mind would have done that by such an overwhelming majority, the Germans pushed all the way to the channel in weeks during the early stages of WW2, could see England from across the channel, could have walked in, stopped and invaded Russia instead.

So here they, the authorities make a code of conduct in relation to the player, not the fans and the fans arrogantly proclaim he must keep a respectful distance, have to say that's just scarily weird, he's now there keeper  and lucky to have him TBH.
Title: Re: "Oh Neuer what I done?"
Post by: not3bad on September 30, 2011, 12:43:56 PM
the Germans pushed all the way to the channel in weeks during the early stages of WW2, could see England from across the channel, could have walked in, stopped and invaded Russia instead.

That's one strange decision I'm pretty happy about.  Sprakken de deutch.
Title: Re: "Oh Neuer what I done?"
Post by: Mark H on September 30, 2011, 02:07:47 PM
Funny saying how bad it is that a small group of their fans acting in what we see as a stupid manner about somebody joining from their bitter rivals ........I wonder if they said the same when we had a small group "storm the gates" at VP ?
Title: Re: "Oh Neuer what I done?"
Post by: mrfuse on September 30, 2011, 03:06:50 PM
Can we draw up a five point code of conduct?

Collins isn't allowed to HOOOOF it
Petrov isn't allowed to do Cruyff turns
Heskey isn't allowed on the pitch
Darren Bent and Shay Given aren't allowed to leave, if they do they will be kidnapped and tortured until they agree to stay
Alex McLeish isn't allowed within 50 miles of Villa Park

haha thats great it about sums up the current Villa setup
Title: Re: "Oh Neuer what I done?"
Post by: seanthevillan on September 30, 2011, 03:20:35 PM
The animosity aimed at Neuer goes a little deeper than him just playing for a rival club.Reports suggest that Neuer had very close links to the schalke ultras who in turn have had plenty of history with Bayern off the pitch.The bayern ultras may be over the top but german fans must be applauded for their support,passion and atmosphere they create at their games.They put plenty of our premiership supporting fans to shame.

More than close links, he grew up as a member of one these ultra groups (who've obviously banned him since his move).
Title: Re: "Oh Neuer what I done?"
Post by: TheMalandro on September 30, 2011, 03:42:04 PM
The thread title really gets on my tits. I grew up in East Yorkshire/Humberside and that is how I speak (Well according to friends)
Title: Re: "Oh Neuer what I done?"
Post by: Salsa Party Animal on September 30, 2011, 03:51:59 PM
Is this worse than say Dwight Yorke / Ashley Young playing for Manure.
Title: Re: "Oh Neuer what I done?"
Post by: Stu on September 30, 2011, 08:11:23 PM
Funny saying how bad it is that a small group of their fans acting in what we see as a stupid manner about somebody joining from their bitter rivals ........I wonder if they said the same when we had a small group "storm the gates" at VP ?

When our fans are able to give a five point code of conduct to a new player/manager because he played for the blues, then you'll have a valid point.
Title: Re: "Oh Neuer what I done?"
Post by: Villanation on September 30, 2011, 08:18:16 PM
the Germans pushed all the way to the channel in weeks during the early stages of WW2, could see England from across the channel, could have walked in, stopped and invaded Russia instead.

That's one strange decision I'm pretty happy about.  Sprakken de deutch.

Point taken..... ;) Although have you seen Natalie Horler, Ok both German and English decent, but it shows it works  ;D

http://atrl.net/forums/showthread.php?t=134798
Title: Re: "Oh Neuer what I done?"
Post by: dave.woodhall on September 30, 2011, 10:09:44 PM
the Germans pushed all the way to the channel in weeks during the early stages of WW2, could see England from across the channel, could have walked in, stopped and invaded Russia instead.


They couldn't have invaded without air support and they failed to get that.
Title: Re: "Oh Neuer what I done?"
Post by: Somniloquism on September 30, 2011, 10:27:29 PM
the Germans pushed all the way to the channel in weeks during the early stages of WW2, could see England from across the channel, could have walked in, stopped and invaded Russia instead.


They couldn't have invaded without air support and they failed to get that.

Although the Germans did cock up by targeting London and the other cities and not continuing to target the RAF fields. Most historians agree that they were days away from winning the air superiority war when the change of tactics were ordered and the invasion was a bust.
Title: Re: "Oh Neuer what I done?"
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on September 30, 2011, 10:31:46 PM
Can we draw up a five point code of conduct?

Collins isn't allowed to HOOOOF it
Petrov isn't allowed to do Cruyff turns
Heskey isn't allowed on the pitch
Darren Bent and Shay Given aren't allowed to leave, if they do they will be kidnapped and tortured until they agree to stay
Alex McLeish isn't allowed within 50 miles of Villa Park

And you never attend Villa Park again?
Title: Re: "Oh Neuer what I done?"
Post by: dave.woodhall on September 30, 2011, 10:33:10 PM
the Germans pushed all the way to the channel in weeks during the early stages of WW2, could see England from across the channel, could have walked in, stopped and invaded Russia instead.


They couldn't have invaded without air support and they failed to get that.

Although the Germans did cock up by targeting London and the other cities and not continuing to target the RAF fields. Most historians agree that they were days away from winning the air superiority war when the change of tactics were ordered and the invasion was a bust.

The great question that's still argued over is why they stopped on the outskirts of Dunkirk and allowed our army to escape.
Title: Re: "Oh Neuer what I done?"
Post by: Somniloquism on September 30, 2011, 10:35:36 PM
the Germans pushed all the way to the channel in weeks during the early stages of WW2, could see England from across the channel, could have walked in, stopped and invaded Russia instead.


They couldn't have invaded without air support and they failed to get that.

Although the Germans did cock up by targeting London and the other cities and not continuing to target the RAF fields. Most historians agree that they were days away from winning the air superiority war when the change of tactics were ordered and the invasion was a bust.

The great question that's still argued over is why they stopped on the outskirts of Dunkirk and allowed our army to escape.

Because the illuminati lizards who rule the world have a soft spot for the UK.
Title: Re: "Oh Neuer what I done?"
Post by: dave.woodhall on September 30, 2011, 10:42:47 PM
the Germans pushed all the way to the channel in weeks during the early stages of WW2, could see England from across the channel, could have walked in, stopped and invaded Russia instead.


They couldn't have invaded without air support and they failed to get that.

Although the Germans did cock up by targeting London and the other cities and not continuing to target the RAF fields. Most historians agree that they were days away from winning the air superiority war when the change of tactics were ordered and the invasion was a bust.

The great question that's still argued over is why they stopped on the outskirts of Dunkirk and allowed our army to escape.

Because the illuminati lizards who rule the world have a soft spot for the UK.

I thought it was because they ran out of fuel and/or the generals in charge still didn't believe tanks could beat a dug-in defence.
Title: Re: "Oh Neuer what I done?"
Post by: mike on September 30, 2011, 10:45:48 PM
the Germans pushed all the way to the channel in weeks during the early stages of WW2, could see England from across the channel, could have walked in, stopped and invaded Russia instead.


They couldn't have invaded without air support and they failed to get that.

Although the Germans did cock up by targeting London and the other cities and not continuing to target the RAF fields. Most historians agree that they were days away from winning the air superiority war when the change of tactics were ordered and the invasion was a bust.

The great question that's still argued over is why they stopped on the outskirts of Dunkirk and allowed our army to escape.

Because the illuminati lizards who rule the world have a soft spot for the UK.

I thought it was because they ran out of fuel and/or the generals in charge still didn't believe tanks could beat a dug-in defence.

No, it was definitely the lizards.
Title: Re: "Oh Neuer what I done?"
Post by: Dave Cooper please on September 30, 2011, 10:46:10 PM
Very stretched supply lines due to the speed of the advance was a major reason.
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