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Title: A song for Alex
Post by: Legion on August 16, 2011, 07:42:28 PM
To the tune of 'The animals went in 2 by 2':

He left your club to come to us, McLeish, McLeish.
He left your club to come to us, McLeish, McLeish.
The king of the town he took you down,
for that the man deserves a crown.
He's now at Villa, big old Al McLeish!
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: Rodders on August 16, 2011, 07:57:13 PM
I still like this one (which came from Leeg in the first place?):

Well Big Eck is a Villan, we used to hate his guts,
but now he's at a big club, we love his ginger nuts.
Now he's found redemption, forgiven for his sins,
the Blose are in the Championship still eating out of bins.
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: JJ-AV on August 16, 2011, 08:01:56 PM
No chance they're gonna catch on are they?

It'll be Fuck off Small Heaf, McLeish is ours.
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: Legion on August 16, 2011, 08:03:15 PM
Al McLeish, my Lord...
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: Chipsticks on August 16, 2011, 08:12:14 PM
"Ginger Mourinho" x 4

Alternatively; "We've got the ginger one" x4
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: PNB Army on August 16, 2011, 11:08:02 PM
were gonna be singing 442 442 442 and were supposed to be at home
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 16, 2011, 11:13:34 PM
were gonna be singing 442 442 442 and were supposed to be at home

Not sure the Nacional fans will understand that one.
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: not3bad on August 16, 2011, 11:15:30 PM
He used to be shite, but he's alright...
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: placeforparks on August 17, 2011, 02:27:33 AM
Alex McLeish's Fickle Army (win IN, lose OUT)
Alex McLeish's Fickle Army (win IN, lose OUT)
Alex McLeish's Fickle Army (win IN, lose OUT)
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: Holte L2 on August 17, 2011, 07:06:41 AM
I still like this one (which came from Leeg in the first place?):

Well Big Eck is a Villan, we used to hate his guts,
but now he's at a big club, we love his ginger nuts.
Now he's found redemption, forgiven for his sins,
the Blose are in the Championship still eating out of bins.

I love that. Where do u guys sit? Would love to get it going. What about a chorus?
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on August 17, 2011, 07:31:27 AM
I just want us to sing claret and blue army, I ain't heard it once since he arrived
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: The Laughing Policeman on August 17, 2011, 09:10:26 AM
I just want us to sing claret and blue army, I ain't heard it once since he arrived
I'd be quite happy never to hear that  again. West Ham do it as do Burnley even Sunny Scunny do it.
And there's all the other colours under the sun armies.
A bit of originality wouldn't go amiss.
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: ROBBO on August 17, 2011, 09:37:22 AM
I would wait a few weeks before having a song for him, could come back to bite ya.
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: Ger Regan on August 17, 2011, 09:45:43 AM
I would wait a few weeks before having a song for him, could come back to bite ya.
Every manager that I can think of has had his name sung down the villa, even DOL. Don't see why McLeish should be any different.
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: not3bad on August 17, 2011, 10:02:40 AM
Alex McLeish's Fickle Army (win IN, lose OUT)
Alex McLeish's Fickle Army (win IN, lose OUT)
Alex McLeish's Fickle Army (win IN, lose OUT)

I'd have a laugh singing this one.
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: Jim Shoes on August 17, 2011, 10:18:47 AM
I just hope it's not "Fuck Mcleish the Villa is ours?".

It will be odd hearing Alex Mcleish's C&B Army, just too soon imo but although I didn't want him at VP it's not his or the teams fault and he deserves to be given a chance to at least prove he isn't good enough.lol
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: Simon Ward on August 17, 2011, 10:19:13 AM
It's not about Russon then?
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: dazzyg on August 17, 2011, 11:59:53 AM
Who is actually going to sing anything for McLeish? We are going to watch the team not "him".
Don't forget where he came from all this rubbish about forgiving him.
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: The Laughing Policeman on August 17, 2011, 12:06:38 PM
Who is actually going to sing anything for McLeish? We are going to watch the team not "him".
Don't forget where he came from all this rubbish about forgiving him.
He's done nothing wrong so nothing to forgive. He's OURmanager.
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: Legion on August 17, 2011, 12:28:04 PM
Who cares where he came from? He's the manager of Aston Villa. It's his job. He's hardly a paid-up member of SHA.
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: Ger Regan on August 17, 2011, 12:34:15 PM
Who is actually going to sing anything for McLeish? We are going to watch the team not "him".
Don't forget where he came from all this rubbish about forgiving him.
*Rolls eyes*
Forgive him for what exactly?
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 17, 2011, 12:34:57 PM
Who is actually going to sing anything for McLeish? We are going to watch the team not "him".
Don't forget where he came from all this rubbish about forgiving him.

From the man who gave us this little pearl...


If you can sit there and cheer him your not a fan
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: The Laughing Policeman on August 17, 2011, 12:37:39 PM
Who is actually going to sing anything for McLeish? We are going to watch the team not "him".
Don't forget where he came from all this rubbish about forgiving him.

From the man who gave us this little pearl...


If you can sit there and cheer him your not a fan
Please mods can we have a "slap around the head" smiley for this sort of drivel?
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: Ger Regan on August 17, 2011, 12:39:41 PM
Who is actually going to sing anything for McLeish? We are going to watch the team not "him".
Don't forget where he came from all this rubbish about forgiving him.

From the man who gave us this little pearl...


If you can sit there and cheer him your not a fan
I should have guessed there would have been previous idiocy considering the shoddy attempt at grammar in his post.
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: Dave Cooper please on August 17, 2011, 12:39:46 PM
Who is actually going to sing anything for McLeish? We are going to watch the team not "him".
Don't forget where he came from

Barrhead?
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: ian c. on August 17, 2011, 09:20:19 PM
This thread needs Glenn Peen.
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: Aston Manor on August 17, 2011, 09:51:11 PM
There is a team called City
They come from Birmingham
They kept on getting relegated
by a ginger Scottishman
Twas in the final minute the referee blew up
And off he went to Villa
To win a proper Cup....
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: German James on August 17, 2011, 10:17:39 PM
Isn't it them who are supposed to be obsessed with us?
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: Aston Manor on August 17, 2011, 10:21:03 PM
Isn't it them who are supposed to be obsessed with us?

What's the tune?
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: German James on August 17, 2011, 10:47:40 PM
Isn't it them who are supposed to be obsessed with us?

What's the tune?

:-D
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: nodge on August 18, 2011, 09:17:31 PM
Didn't somebody already win this one with "you walked a mile and a bit, to get away from the shit, oh aaaaalex"?
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: Aston Manor on August 19, 2011, 10:10:47 PM
Who is actually going to sing anything for McLeish? We are going to watch the team not "him".
Don't forget where he came from

Barrhead?

And who are the local Barrhead team? Arthurlie. Formed in??? 1874. In1905 Villa bought James Logan from Arthurlie to Villa Park and he played 157 times scoring 4 goals before leaving in 1912 to return to Rangers. His brother Alexander Logan played for Villa in the 1905-06 before moving back north to Falkirk. Villa also got Willie Young from Arthurlie in 1977-78  resulting in the biggest cheque ever in Arthurlie”s history, from Aston Villa, and it’s framed and in the dressing room.

Is it any wonder that in reality he was a sleeping agent all this time? relegated them once, got carried away (to be fair he surrounded himself with so many other agents at St Andrews its no real surprise they had that innate Cup winning mentality). Once he realized what he'd done he did what any agent would do in his position. He rallied his troops and saw there was only  one way out of the mess he created. Get them relegated. You watch that last minute cross go into the box at White Hart Lane and try not to snigger as Agent Ridgewell clearly pulls his head away from a simple goalscoring opportunity. Watch it again and you can almost hear Kevin Costner describe agent Ridgwell's head movement (back, and to the left...back, and to the left...).

So, I suppose reading what Hookeysmith posted. Remembering him getting pissed off after beating us in the League Cup and calling their fans "small time". Its becoming more and more clear. Next time we look at him, next time anger is welling at his past just smile, shake your head knowingly and welcome home Agent McLeish  whilst saying back, and to the left...
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: The Laughing Policeman on August 20, 2011, 12:31:38 AM
Who is actually going to sing anything for McLeish? We are going to watch the team not "him".
Don't forget where he came from

Barrhead?

And who are the local Barrhead team? Arthurlie. Formed in??? 1874. In1905 Villa bought James Logan from Arthurlie to Villa Park and he played 157 times scoring 4 goals before leaving in 1912 to return to Rangers. His brother Alexander Logan played for Villa in the 1905-06 before moving back north to Falkirk. Villa also got Willie Young from Arthurlie in 1977-78  resulting in the biggest cheque ever in Arthurlie”s history, from Aston Villa, and it’s framed and in the dressing room.

Is it any wonder that in reality he was a sleeping agent all this time? relegated them once, got carried away (to be fair he surrounded himself with so many other agents at St Andrews its no real surprise they had that innate Cup winning mentality). Once he realized what he'd done he did what any agent would do in his position. He rallied his troops and saw there was only  one way out of the mess he created. Get them relegated. You watch that last minute cross go into the box at White Hart Lane and try not to snigger as Agent Ridgewell clearly pulls his head away from a simple goalscoring opportunity. Watch it again and you can almost hear Kevin Costner describe agent Ridgwell's head movement (back, and to the left...back, and to the left...).

So, I suppose reading what Hookeysmith posted. Remembering him getting pissed off after beating us in the League Cup and calling their fans "small time". Its becoming more and more clear. Next time we look at him, next time anger is welling at his past just smile, shake your head knowingly and welcome home Agent McLeish  whilst saying back, and to the left...
For brilliant research....... Hands Above The Head Clappy  Smiley Thing.
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: Dave Cooper please on August 20, 2011, 04:27:33 PM
Fantastic stuff AM (ooh, look, Aston Manor's initials are the same as our manager).
I'm going to have to go and watch Arthurlie now.
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: dazzyg on January 19, 2012, 02:40:45 PM
Oh Alex Oh Alex we hate you yes we do we are Villa we are Villa we hate you this is true.
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: Simba on January 19, 2012, 02:48:26 PM
Day job? Don't give it up just yet son.
sorry forgot......................
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on January 19, 2012, 02:51:40 PM
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Day job? Don't give it up just yet son

I'm guessing his day job is a paper round
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: lordmcgrath5 on January 19, 2012, 03:23:56 PM
Fair play to Aston Manor for that....never expected to see a post about Arthurlie on here. My missus is from Barrhead (and her granny used to live a couple of doors down from one Alex McLeish).

Erm, do I win 5 pounds?
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on January 19, 2012, 04:37:04 PM
I think Frank Farian put it best with Boney M

He's crazy like a tree
What about dazzy g?
He's obsessed with A McLeish
What about dazzy g?

(Altogether now, join in when you feel confident)

Dazzy, dazzy g
Dazzy, dazzy g
Dazzy, dazzy g
Dazzy, dazzy g

Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: Irish villain on January 19, 2012, 04:46:44 PM
I would wait a few weeks before having a song for him, could come back to bite ya.
Every manager that I can think of has had his name sung down the villa, even DOL. Don't see why McLeish should be any different.

This.
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: villajk on January 19, 2012, 05:18:38 PM
Oh Alex Oh Alex we hate you yes we do we are Villa we are Villa we hate you this is true.

Just morning kindergarten for you is it?
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on January 19, 2012, 08:32:18 PM
He deserves no songs.  He is encouraging turgid football.
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: dishy on January 19, 2012, 08:42:44 PM
how about
" you don't know what you're doing"
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: ez on January 19, 2012, 08:56:36 PM
cheerio cheerio cheerio...
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: Kingthing on January 19, 2012, 09:06:18 PM
Alex McLeish's Fickle Army (win IN, lose OUT)
Alex McLeish's Fickle Army (win IN, lose OUT)
Alex McLeish's Fickle Army (win IN, lose OUT)

I'd have a laugh singing this one.

I love it.
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: Handsworth Wood Villa on January 19, 2012, 09:19:50 PM
Clap! Clap!
Clap! Clap! Clap!
Clap! Clap! Clap! Clap!
McLeish!

Clap! Clap!
Clap! Clap! Clap!
Clap! Clap! Clap! Clap!
McLeish!
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 19, 2012, 09:21:57 PM
Clap! Clap!
Clap! Clap! Clap!
Clap! Clap! Clap! Clap!
McLeish!

Clap! Clap!
Clap! Clap! Clap!
Clap! Clap! Clap! Clap!
McLeish!

Of course, you've been singing that one for years.
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: Legion on January 19, 2012, 09:22:39 PM
Clap! Clap!
Clap! Clap! Clap!
Clap! Clap! Clap! Clap!
McLeish!

Clap! Clap!
Clap! Clap! Clap!
Clap! Clap! Clap! Clap!
McLeish!

'I just want you back for good.'?
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: Handsworth Wood Villa on January 19, 2012, 09:25:51 PM
Clap! Clap!
Clap! Clap! Clap!
Clap! Clap! Clap! Clap!
McLeish!

Clap! Clap!
Clap! Clap! Clap!
Clap! Clap! Clap! Clap!
McLeish!

Of course, you've been singing that one for years.

No.

I copied that from Liverpool with their Dalglish chant.
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on January 20, 2012, 09:14:35 AM
Clap! Clap!
Clap! Clap! Clap!
Clap! Clap! Clap! Clap!
McLeish!

Clap! Clap!
Clap! Clap! Clap!
Clap! Clap! Clap! Clap!
McLeish!

Of course, you've been singing that one for years.

No.

I copied that from Liverpool with their Dalglish chant.

You caught the clap from the scousers?
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: Small Rodent on January 20, 2012, 09:30:14 AM
In Scotland they used to sing

Alex McLeish, the Elephant Man
Alex McLeish, the Elephant Man
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: Simba on January 20, 2012, 02:30:47 PM
Sometimes I think the funeral march is more appropriate:

der der du der      der di der der der  du der. Oy!

Dazzy you will have to learn the words.
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: KRS on January 20, 2012, 03:16:36 PM
Not the most supportive of songs:

"We're so shit, it's unbelievable"
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: The Laughing Policeman on January 20, 2012, 03:22:41 PM
Just to stop the away fans singing it to us.........."We're shit and we know we are" ;)
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: jimmy.y on January 20, 2012, 04:43:00 PM
 To the tuneof,   it's your round m'lord.

No plan B mclesh, no plan B
No plan B mclesh, no plan B
No plan B mclesh, no plan B
oh mclesh no plan B

No plan A mclesh, no plan A
No plan A mclesh, no plan A
No plan A mclesh, no plan A
oh mclesh no plan A

Not a clue mclesh, not a clue
Not a clue mclesh, not a clue
Not a clue mclesh, not a clue
oh mclesh not a clue

Don't want you mclesh, don't want you
Don't want you mclesh, don't want you
Don't want you mclesh, don't want you
oh mclesh don't want you

Please fuck off mclesh,please fuck off
Please fuck off mclesh,please fuck off
Please fuck off mclesh,please fuck off
oh mclesh please fuck off.
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 20, 2012, 04:50:40 PM
Maybe if you could spell the manager's name correctly once in twenty attempts...
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: Brend'Watkins on January 20, 2012, 05:09:56 PM
Maybe if you could spell the manager's name correctly once in twenty attempts...

It's all the funnier for it though.
To the tuneof,   it's your round m'lord.


You should really up date the wikki entry for Kum Ba Yah.



Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on January 20, 2012, 05:28:18 PM
There wa a good song going around at Stamford Bridge Chelsea on New Years Eve, aimed towrds the Chelsea fans

To the tune of Sloop John B

"we're winning away
we're winning away
how shit must you be
we're winning away"
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: stubbsyandy on January 20, 2012, 05:29:44 PM
Maybe if you could spell the manager's name correctly once in twenty attempts...

Chortle chortle!
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: Dave Clark Five on January 20, 2012, 11:14:30 PM
Who is actually going to sing anything for McLeish? We are going to watch the team not "him".
Don't forget where he came from all this rubbish about forgiving him.
You continue to talk bollocks.
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: Dave Clark Five on January 20, 2012, 11:19:14 PM
To the tuneof,   it's your round m'lord.


So original.  Hope you are all happy together. Fucking pathetic.
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: Dave Clark Five on January 20, 2012, 11:20:38 PM
There wa a good song going around at Stamford Bridge Chelsea on New Years Eve, aimed towrds the Chelsea fans

To the tune of Sloop John B

"we're winning away
we're winning away
how shit must you be
we're winning away"

Yes. I bet the team really appreciated that.
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: Handsworth Wood Villa on January 21, 2012, 12:02:50 AM
Who is actually going to sing anything for McLeish? We are going to watch the team not "him".
Don't forget where he came from all this rubbish about forgiving him.
You continue to talk bollocks.

It's true though.

No one sings his name because he came from Blues.
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: Stu on January 21, 2012, 12:13:29 AM
Who is actually going to sing anything for McLeish? We are going to watch the team not "him".
Don't forget where he came from all this rubbish about forgiving him.
You continue to talk bollocks.

It's true though.

No one sings his name because he came from Blues.

If he was any good and we'd pinched him of you for that reason I'd be singing his name from the rooftops, 1. For being the Villa manager and 2. because it would have pissed you lot right off.

As it is, he was probably the worst appointment the board could have made. If the criteria for the new manager was:

a) needs to have a record of dull, uninspiring football
b) cannot motivate under-confident players
c) will completely baffle and antagonise the fans

...then they made the best appointment. All the reasons above are why his name isn't being sung, not because he came from that lot down in Small Heath.
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on January 21, 2012, 12:15:41 PM
Quote
Yes. I bet the team really appreciated that.


it was sung with very good humour.

And obviously did the trick
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: Newquay_AVFC on January 21, 2012, 12:21:47 PM
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Yes. I bet the team really appreciated that.


it was sung with very good humour.

And obviously did the trick

Fulham used to sing something like that, not about winning away but just scoring away. I found it very funny.
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: pauliewalnuts on January 21, 2012, 12:26:06 PM
This "because he used to be at Blues" thing is weird.

It is both a stick to beat him with, as in "he's shit, he came from Small Heath FFS" and used by some as a kind of get-out of jail free card for any argument on him, as in "The reason you don't rate him is because he used to manage them".

To be honest, I find both ends of that one dull, unimaginative and a bit half-arsed.

Firstly, who give a flying one if he used to manage them? If he'd done amazingly there, they'd have been gutted to lose him (they weren't), and surely any Villa fan would be cock-a-hoop at stealing their prized asset?

Secondly, what about those who don't rate him because of things  other than his former employers? We're not all that dim and parochial, you know.
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: adrenachrome on January 21, 2012, 12:41:58 PM
Quote
Yes. I bet the team really appreciated that.


it was sung with very good humour.

And obviously did the trick

Worked for Swansea at VP as well, their version a pleasantly tuneful:

"We're Swansea City"
"We're shit on the rrrrrrrrrrrroad
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: Chris Smith on January 21, 2012, 12:46:16 PM
The problem s though, Paulie, both of those sides of the argument are based in truth. There are people who are anti McLeish because he's an ex Blues manager, there's no point denying it. Even amongst the more fair minded he's been given no honeymoon period that any other appointment would have received.

Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: Risso on January 21, 2012, 12:47:16 PM
The problem s though, Paulie, both of those sides of the argument are based in truth. There are people who are anti McLeish because he's an ex Blues manager, there's no point denying it. Even amongst the more fair minded he's been given no honeymoon period that any other appointment would have received.

He doesn't get a honeymoon period because he has performed EXACTLY as the sane minded predicted he would.
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: pauliewalnuts on January 21, 2012, 12:49:09 PM
The problem s though, Paulie, both of those sides of the argument are based in truth. There are people who are anti McLeish because he's an ex Blues manager, there's no point denying it. Even amongst the more fair minded he's been given no honeymoon period that any other appointment would have received.


I'm not denying it at all, I'm just saying that a lot of us don't rate the bloke for more considered reasons (ie what we've seen on the pitch).

I also reckon if you looked back at this time last year, Houllier would have been getting exactly the kind of stick McLeish is now, so I don't reckon he's getting any less honeymoon period than anyone else
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: jembob on January 21, 2012, 12:51:17 PM
Very few people seem to have their name sung at the moment. Much of this is due to the poor attendances and complete lack of atmosphere which continue to decline. The appointment of Mcleish signalled the Board's intention to settle for mediocrity and he's done a sterling job fulfilling that lack of ambition. Why would anybody want to sing a song for a man who is largely responsible for the shambolic state of the team's performances?

Having come from the Blues he was never going to have a honeymoon period or any margin for error so it is bound to end in an ugly situation whatever happens.  Surely there were only 3 people who thought he was a good appointment - Lerner, Faulkner and Mcleish.
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: Chris Smith on January 21, 2012, 12:58:59 PM
The problem s though, Paulie, both of those sides of the argument are based in truth. There are people who are anti McLeish because he's an ex Blues manager, there's no point denying it. Even amongst the more fair minded he's been given no honeymoon period that any other appointment would have received.

He doesn't get a honeymoon period because he has performed EXACTLY as the sane minded predicted he would.

He has, he's kept us in mid table when the obsessives were predicting us being in the bottom 3 by now.
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: ez on January 21, 2012, 01:14:09 PM
The problem s though, Paulie, both of those sides of the argument are based in truth. There are people who are anti McLeish because he's an ex Blues manager, there's no point denying it. Even amongst the more fair minded he's been given no honeymoon period that any other appointment would have received.


I'm not denying it at all, I'm just saying that a lot of us don't rate the bloke for more considered reasons (ie what we've seen on the pitch).

I also reckon if you looked back at this time last year, Houllier would have been getting exactly the kind of stick McLeish is now, so I don't reckon he's getting any less honeymoon period than anyone else

Thats my thinking too. The blues connection is a bit like a smokescreen some use to avoid the real important issue that is his results/performances over the last 2 seasons.
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: Risso on January 21, 2012, 01:17:07 PM
The problem s though, Paulie, both of those sides of the argument are based in truth. There are people who are anti McLeish because he's an ex Blues manager, there's no point denying it. Even amongst the more fair minded he's been given no honeymoon period that any other appointment would have received.

He doesn't get a honeymoon period because he has performed EXACTLY as the sane minded predicted he would.

He has, he's kept us in mid table when the obsessives were predicting us being in the bottom 3 by now.

The value of your argument is devalued by you rigidly sticking to quoting what the numpties say.
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: Chris Smith on January 21, 2012, 01:34:05 PM
The problem s though, Paulie, both of those sides of the argument are based in truth. There are people who are anti McLeish because he's an ex Blues manager, there's no point denying it. Even amongst the more fair minded he's been given no honeymoon period that any other appointment would have received.

He doesn't get a honeymoon period because he has performed EXACTLY as the sane minded predicted he would.

He has, he's kept us in mid table when the obsessives were predicting us being in the bottom 3 by now.

The value of your argument is devalued by you rigidly sticking to quoting what the numpties say.

No it isn't, all of you were predicting us being in the relegation places by now ahead of the December fixtures.
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: Risso on January 21, 2012, 01:50:51 PM
The problem s though, Paulie, both of those sides of the argument are based in truth. There are people who are anti McLeish because he's an ex Blues manager, there's no point denying it. Even amongst the more fair minded he's been given no honeymoon period that any other appointment would have received.

He doesn't get a honeymoon period because he has performed EXACTLY as the sane minded predicted he would.

He has, he's kept us in mid table when the obsessives were predicting us being in the bottom 3 by now.

The value of your argument is devalued by you rigidly sticking to quoting what the numpties say.

No it isn't, all of you were predicting us being in the relegation places by now ahead of the December fixtures.

Were we?
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: TheSandman on January 21, 2012, 02:02:16 PM
In the predictions thread before the season most had us in the top half between 7th and 10th. With one or two exceptions the more down in the dumps posters had us around where we are now.

http://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?topic=44382.msg1858502#msg1858502

And here's another more complete thread: http://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?topic=44383.msg1858616#msg1858616
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: Dave Cooper please on January 21, 2012, 02:12:03 PM
Yes, but after our draw-filled start to the season the doom-mongers were predicting we'd get no points in December and would be firmly in a relegation battle, many also coming up with the usual "no bottle for a relegation fight" cliches.

As Chris has often said, we are set up, both on and off the pitch, to be a mid-table side, that's where we are and that's where we will finish.
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: Dave Clark Five on January 21, 2012, 07:02:48 PM
Funny how it was all McLeish's fault when we went 2-1 down but no credit afforded to him at the end. He has tried countless combinations with the team, whilst bringing in some excellent young players. I also found it amusing today when I heard someone criticising Given for 'hoofing' the ball over the half way line. If I'm not mistaken that has always happened in this game.
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: not3bad on January 21, 2012, 07:13:54 PM
Funny how it was all McLeish's fault when we went 2-1 down but no credit afforded to him at the end.

You're quite right.  Mcleish signed Keane, Keane got the winning goals.  Simples.
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: Eigentor on January 21, 2012, 07:41:37 PM
What's shit about winning is that we have to think of who we should praise. If we lose, we can blame McLeish.
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: TheSandman on January 21, 2012, 07:43:33 PM
Every time I see the thread title I keep thinking some variation of My Lovely Horse is required.
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: James on January 22, 2012, 12:26:25 AM
What's shit about winning is that we have to think of who we should praise. If we lose, we can blame McLeish.

No. McLeish got it right today (second half anyway) so fair enough, what's shit about winning is that you just don't know what will happen next time out! We still need to beat QPR (IMHO) to get some breathing space. Anyone convinced, even tonight, that we will? You're only as good as your next game, but with us, the next game is always an unknown! I know, I know, pessimist, but hey, I've been a Villa fan for nearly forty years, so bite me!
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: Leighton on January 22, 2012, 02:00:04 AM
I admit I have totally lost the bug and enjoyment of football nowadays, hence I don't go down the Villa any more. I dont even miss it either. Shame because I used to love it. Nowt to do with McCleish, nor Lerner, nor tactics etc. Just everything to do with realising I wasnt bothered anymore. I occasionaly come on here from time to time to see if I can relight the spark. Fingers crossed.

So for what it is worth, here's my ditty for AM...

(To the tune of Alice by Smokey)

He took them down
He brought them up
He took them down again
He won a cup
He fucked them up
Then Randy got his man

Cus for three long years we were living next door to Alex
Alex, who the fuck is Alex

Didn’t want to be there
He knew he had enough
Came to join a big club
Cus it’s us he really loved

Cus for three long years we were living next door to Alex
Alex,
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: F. Austin Purcell on January 22, 2012, 05:54:34 PM
Funny how it was all McLeish's fault when we went 2-1 down but no credit afforded to him at the end. He has tried countless combinations with the team, whilst bringing in some excellent young players. I also found it amusing today when I heard someone criticising Given for 'hoofing' the ball over the half way line. If I'm not mistaken that has always happened in this game.
What tune should we sing this to?
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: Dave Cooper please on January 22, 2012, 06:26:22 PM
Funny how it was all McLeish's fault when we went 2-1 down but no credit afforded to him at the end. He has tried countless combinations with the team, whilst bringing in some excellent young players. I also found it amusing today when I heard someone criticising Given for 'hoofing' the ball over the half way line. If I'm not mistaken that has always happened in this game.
What tune should we sing this to?

The theme tune to Black Beauty.
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: Hoppo on January 22, 2012, 08:07:25 PM
Had alittle Happy Birthday Alex yesterday a few joined in. Dave Clark 5 any news on those players?
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: Dave Clark Five on January 22, 2012, 10:23:18 PM
Had alittle Happy Birthday Alex yesterday a few joined in. Dave Clark 5 any news on those players?
No. I think I had been told bullshit so it won't be mentioned.
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: dazzyg on January 23, 2012, 08:26:15 AM
Day job? Don't give it up just yet son.
sorry forgot......................

More to the point have you got a "day job " I can hold my head up high yes I do have a job (responsible as well)
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: Percy McCarthy on January 23, 2012, 09:54:22 AM
He's a lollipop man.
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: Dave Cooper please on January 23, 2012, 01:21:13 PM
He's a lollipop man.

Well there you go, Nigel Blackwell was right once again when he sang, "Not long now before lollipop men are called Darren."
Title: Re: A song for Alex
Post by: Hoppo on January 23, 2012, 02:11:08 PM
No problem Dave Clark 5. I think if we beat The gunners who look there for the taking and beat QPR we might hear the murmourings of support for McLeish. Whisper it quietly though dont want to upset the natives.
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