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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: abc123cox on July 03, 2011, 11:16:41 AM
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As Hitzlesperger is again linked to us all over the place and rumors are we want him back! how do you lot think about the situation??
Vital-villa have run a poll and it's very undecided but i actually would love to see him back at the villa.
he is not the same player he was, he is now an international player and at West Ham before his injury every one at their club was raving about him...
see him a lot in Germany and playing for Germany and always thought that's another one along with Cahill that we let slip away.
what our team needs at the moment is players who want to play for our club!!! can anyone disagree that Hitz has always said he is a true villain!!!
Sign him up on a free for 2 or 3 years, he wont have huge wages and could become a great squad or even 1st team player.
what u think???
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Agreed, I'd love tommy back. Was sad to see him leave and think he would do a job for us
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Hopefully we can do better than Hitz, if we're going to raid Wet Spam let's get Parker.
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I've gone for the not fussed option. As Dave said let's get Parker and if he's not willing then go for Hitz. He can do a job for us cover a lot of positions and score some goals from midfield. He's AMs sort of player
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Hopefully we can do better than Hitz, if we're going to raid Wet Spam let's get Parker.
sorry Dave! i would also love Parker but to say we can do better then Hitz!!! der hammer is villa through and through!! Parker may have some skills but will he put his heart and soul on the line for the love of the shirt on his back. we need players that love our club!! players to get stuck in!!! and players that can connect to our fans!! Hitz is the man
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It was painfully apparent that without Parker alongside him in the run-in Hitz was very ineffective for West Ham. He was totally bypassed and ineffectual. Which brought back memories. When Parker was there he had the time to play passes and get forward, and he is a better player than when he left us, but as Dave says I'd be disappointed if that was the calibre of player we were looking at.
*Prepares to be disappointed*
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sorry Dave! i would also love Parker but to say we can do better then Hitz!!! der hammer is villa through and through!! Parker may have some skills but will he put his heart and soul on the line for the love of the shirt on his back. we need players that love our club!! players to get stuck in!!! and players that can connect to our fans!! Hitz is the man
I'm Villa through and through, I would put my heart and soul into playing for us. Sign me!
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Fine by me.
A good option to have in the squad and wouldn't cost anything. Can't see any harm in it.
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Well he's a better player than when he left us. not sure about a 1st team regular but as a free, can't see a problem
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There's no transfer fee, he'd be a good addition to the squad so why not?
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Only because he'd be on a free. Otherwise he's just an average Prem player.
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Yes.
29 years old. A good option for 2/3 years.
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No for me. His influence on games is pretty poor because all he seems capable of doing is winding up 30 yard shots on goal which dont often come off. I think we should be looking elsewhere.
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Yep, .......... Hammer Time !! (again)
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I would like him back but I would like to sign better players.
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Yeah, although we do have a glut of centre mids, and still need 1 quality one (like Parker)
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No from me.
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No and let's face it he wasn't that good when he was here.
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He may be free but I'd rather keep the salary money for better players.
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He may be free but I'd rather keep the salary money for better players.
That's the problem isn't it? I fear Villa are now firmly back in 'beggars can't be choosers' territory.
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On a free it'd make sense. Nige gone, Petrov's legs going. He's got a goal in him and can cover left back.
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Not the player he was.
But he could never tackle and had limited passing.
If the opposition close him down to stop his long range shots then he's got nothing to offer.
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Is he could enough to be in our first 11? Yes. Should we be getting better? Yes. I'd prefer Parker, for what he'd offer, but certainly, as a squad option I'd love to have Tommy back. He's improved since he left us. He did well for West Ham when finally over his injury.
We're very short in centre midfield right now, so we do need 1-2. Petrov is past it. I think Makoun will come good, while Delph and Bannan are potentially very good, but still unproven. For free, he'd be a good signing indeed. He might be a bit cumbersome, but he's tidy on the ball, obviously as we know he has a thunderbolt shot, and his set pieces are decent.
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He may be free but I'd rather keep the salary money for better players.
I agree, but with Friedel, Carew, NRC, Salifou, Osbourne and Pires now off the wage bill, we could afford to bring him in on maybe a two year contract?
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Avoid. A pointless signing.
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Not good enough. Gardner lite. Great shot not much else.
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No. Wasn't good enough when he was here before and we've moved on massively since.
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Spelling his name properly would be a start. Anyway, not for me.
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Yes. He'd be well received, is a good player, a ton of experience including over 50 caps for Germany. He's no longer starting material but he'd be a solid squad member and an all round good person to boot. He'd be a good influence on the younger players and furthermore he can even slot in at LB in a pinch. He likely wouldn't cost the earth either. And let's be honest we would all love to see one or two more of his bombs bulging the net a few more times!
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He may be free but I'd rather keep the salary money for better players.
Exactly how I see it.
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On the plus side people getting him on the back of his shirt will bring the club a fortune in ;)
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Fans disgruntled with the board's apparent lack of ambition, a thin squad, an unpopular manager and the prospect of Tommy H in a Villa shirt. It's almost like the last six years never happened.
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Meh.
Maybe. Would prefer better. He's not as bad as some make out and not as good as others say. That said we have the likes of Bannan, Delph and maybe Gary Gardner so it is a bit pointless.
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Fans disgruntled with the board's apparent lack of ambition, a thin squad, an unpopular manager and the prospect of Tommy H in a Villa shirt. It's almost like the last six years never happened.
This. Signing the Hitz would be yet another sign that we have regressed to the "beggars can't be choosers" category of new signings.
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Hitz has a great shot but wouldn't improve our midfield. He'd also hinder the progress of Bannan and Delph.
It's a no from me.
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I wouln't have him back.
One trick pony and hardley an up and down midfielder.
Lets go the whole hogg and get Harewood back
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Lets go the whole hogg and get Harewood back
Or play Hogg.
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No from me. The occasional great shot but loses the ball too easily for me. We should set our sites higher.
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I remember him having a cracking shot last time he played for us , but cant remember him doing alot else to be honest.
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We like him but he is not the man we need. If we want someone for our midfield I would go for Diego and Gervinho and Parker.
If we can turn Thomas to left back for us for rest of his career, it might be worth doing but I don't think he is good enough either.
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Why not. A very good player, on a free too.
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We like him but he is not the man we need. If we want someone for our midfield I would go for Diego and Gervinho and Parker.
If we can turn Thomas to left back for us for rest of his career, it might be worth doing but I don't think he is good enough either.
I'd rather buy a decent left back tbf. Gervinho is Arsenal bound.
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Sure, he would be a good squad player and if he is on a free why not.
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Avoid. A pointless signing.
This. I think I'd rather see Bannan & Delph given a run.
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Why not. A very good player, on a free too.
Just shows how football divides opinion. I just don't see him as a very good player at all. Average. And that's about it.
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Has played for Stuttgart, Lazio and er, West Ham since he left us. So a mixed bag there. Did very well at Stuttgart, didn't really get a chance at Lazio and most of the 'ammers fans were raving about him soon after his return from injury.
Watched him in their game v Liverpool at home and he was as good as anything on the pitch. Wasn't all to clever against us, though I must admit. You could make the argument that his career has peaked and I wouldn't necessarily disagree. But at 29 he should still have a bit left in the tank.
The fact that he can play a few positions (and that he goes to Villa games in his own free time) swings it for me. No point adding numbers just for the sake of it, I agree. But we do need depth and I'd be more comfortable with him filling in at left back than Ciaran Clark for example. A left footer in the centre also gives us a bit of balance, and he's probably mature enough to play deeper now. When he was last with us didn't he often start on the left with Barry and McCann in the centre?
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Ye gods, he was ok the 1st time round, nothing special. The best thing about having him @ VP was shouting "SHOOT" when he was just outside OUR 18 yard box. We'd do much better letting Gardner and Delph get some more game time.
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Easy one for me, I was sorry to see him go and would be DELIGHTED to see him back.CAPS don't do it justice-great shot,big heart and I liked what I saw for West Ham.Come home Tommy
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I'd like him back, a decent player who loves the club, can't see any negatives really, although halting the progress of Delph, Bannan and Gardner would probably be one, i'd still have him as a squad player though.
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One thing about Der Hammer is atleast we'd know that we had a committed player signing for the Club, see Ireland and Dunne.
He's the type of signing I expect us to be making tbh, a decent player but not top 6 material. That next level up is currently out of our reach so we need to get a hard working squad togther that can grind things out with flashes of quality in there. We need to be solid and organised at the back, combative in Midfield and with pacey strikers up top (Bent being our trump card). This is what Aston Villa 2011-12 will be imho.
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He's an experienced head as well, done alot in his career. We've got Makoun and Stan in there, another one wouldn't be bad. Especially with his versatility.
He's a good plan B too. Solid enough player who can be a match winner.
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and one of the mods told me on here the other day that we weren't downsizing ::)
an average player when at the Villa (as another poster said, bar the very odd 30 yarder, there was fuck all else to him)
no thanks
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Sendimental reason aside, No.
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On a free on reasonable wages, why not?
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Maybe give him a season.
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I think he would be a decent addition, but is another who would be better in a 4-3-3 than 4-4-2 - only possibility in a 4-4-2 I could see would be him and Parker or Reo Coker together, if either came too.
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I'd definately like him back. People are saying that having him back will hamper the development process of the like of Bannan and Gardner? Not sure how and why? I can't see Gardner playing much this season. he is only 18 right? so if we offer Hitz a 2/3 year deal, Gardner will be 20/21 then and maybe in a better position to start playing more games for villa? Just a thought thats all.
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and one of the mods told me on here the other day that we weren't downsizing ::)
You say that as if the opinion of a moderator should be considered any differently from non-moderators - it shouldn't. We know about as much as anyone else does, and no more.
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Decent enough but what would he really add?
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Gardner is potentially a very special player. He needs to start playing soon. Gerrard started playing when he was that age and I would put Gardner in that class. He wont be coming in and starting straight away but he needs a clear run at the first team soon and the more ordinary players we keep out of his way, the better.
I can understand poeople wanting another player in, I do too and Parker or a player like Fofana or Moussa Sissoko would be great. Quality players. But that would be at the expense of Petrov for instance.
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Decent enough but what would he really add?
Cover, which could be valuable if we have 9 first team players injured again like last year. Apart from that not a lot. As I said, it's a free transfer and so long as his wages are sensible I would do it.
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Decent enough but what would he really add?
Cover, which could be valuable if we have 9 first team players injured again like last year. Apart from that not a lot. As I said, it's a free transfer and so long as his wages are sensible I would do it.
I think people are forgetting the injury plagued season we had and that we had to use the youngsters which resulted in us winning hardly any games and putting unnecessary pressure on them to deliver. Hitz would be decent enough cover should that happen again to take the pressure off the inexperienced players. at the end of the day, i want every youth team player to do well but playing them in games when the pressure is on will not benefit them when you have 40k fans expecting more
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If Hitzlsperger had never played for us before, and we were getting linked with him now, would the people most keen on his return still be as keen?
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If Hitzlsperger had never played for us before, and we were getting linked with him now, would the people most keen on his return still be as keen?
That's football though innit? He's a big fan of the area and the club, you would like to think he would try harder than others. Might not happen that way and yes he is only average, however, we need squad cover that is cheap and if he fits the bill, why not?
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If Hitzlsperger had never played for us before, and we were getting linked with him now, would the people most keen on his return still be as keen?
That's football though innit? He's a big fan of the area and the club, you would like to think he would try harder than others. Might not happen that way and yes he is only average, however, we need squad cover that is cheap and if he fits the bill, why not?
If the main appeal is that he knows the club, then maybe we need to re-evaluate how we select our transfer targets.
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If Hitzlsperger had never played for us before, and we were getting linked with him now, would the people most keen on his return still be as keen?
I probably would to be honest as I would have looked at the clubs he has played for and the experience he brings with him. He cant really be judged on his time at West Ham due to injury and the fact that their whole team were 5h1te, not one single player could have saved them including the great Scott Parker!
The fact remains he is an ex villa player who wants to come back to us and he isn't exactly rubbish now is he? Yes, he will not lighten up the premiership but for someone who is available on a free and can do a job for us, I think its a no brainer (only if the wages are right though). He is a decent player with an ability to shoot from outside the box and score goal. How many of our centre midfielders are capable of that?
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Is it a no brainer if it comes at the cost of hindering the progress of Gary Gardner? Or Delph? Or Bannan?
He's also not going to play for free, so it's not as if there is no cost.
I understand why emotionally people would want his return, I like the bloke, too, I just don't really see the point when you get past the "coming home" bit and look at all the other things you need to consider.
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If Hitzlsperger had never played for us before, and we were getting linked with him now, would the people most keen on his return still be as keen?
That's football though innit? He's a big fan of the area and the club, you would like to think he would try harder than others. Might not happen that way and yes he is only average, however, we need squad cover that is cheap and if he fits the bill, why not?
If the main appeal is that he knows the club, then maybe we need to re-evaluate how we select our transfer targets.
Given that both of us know next to nothing about the transfer policies of the club, I would say we have little to worry about from that respect.
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Nobody is forgeting last season for christ's sake. And it was such an unusually bad injury list that you could scarcely plan for it. You would have to have several people sitting around doing nothing to guard against it happening again and that's not practical. We have an academy for a reason. To produce the best young players we can. They have to play and when there are injuries and lack of form and fitness its natural they get their chance.
Anyway, we didn't struggle because of them, in fact a lot of our best players in that time were the kids. Albrighton, Clark, Bannan etc. It was the senior ones who were letting us down.
In any case, I find it hard to believe that people think merely having Hitzlsperger would have made any difference.
He doesnt score many goals (but because of his shooting power when they do go in they tend to be memorable), he doesnt create many goals, he's no great tackler, he has no real pace, he's just very, very average and I dont think fear of another ridiculous injury list we may never see the likes of again in our lifetimes is a good enough reason to sign him.
And he's free. So what? Go and buy a better player. That's what counts, not how much they cost.
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I'm not saying we do know anything about the transfer policies of the club, just that "knows the area" as one of the main reasons to sign a player is pretty poor, really.
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Anyway, we didn't struggle because of them, in fact a lot of our best players in that time were the kids. Albrighton, Clark, Bannan etc. It was the senior ones who were letting us down.
Too right it was.
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Im not blaming the younger inexperienced players for villas poor run but all im saying is that its not fair on them to throw them in the deep end when the team as a whole is doing bad. It cant benefit them mentally now can it? it can affect their performance and moral and eventually, some fickle fans as well as the media will get on their backs if the performances are not there.
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Anyway, we didn't struggle because of them, in fact a lot of our best players in that time were the kids. Albrighton, Clark, Bannan etc. It was the senior ones who were letting us down.
Too right it was.
The young players clearly weren't ready for the responsibility of playing every week and all of them, perhaps with the exception of Clark, dipped markedly in performance after a bright start. That's only to be expected but results improved once we didn't have to rely on them. I think this season they have to show that they're good enough regardless of age.
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Gardner is potentially a very special player.
His brother is certainly special.
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Anyway, we didn't struggle because of them, in fact a lot of our best players in that time were the kids. Albrighton, Clark, Bannan etc. It was the senior ones who were letting us down.
Too right it was.
The young players clearly weren't ready for the responsibility of playing every week and all of them, perhaps with the exception of Clark, dipped markedly in performance after a bright start. That's only to be expected but results improved once we didn't have to rely on them. I think this season they have to show that they're good enough regardless of age.
I dont entirely agree with all that but I agree that they have to show what they're made of soon, and blocking their way with average players who've had their chance and not been good enough is not the way.
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Anyway, we didn't struggle because of them, in fact a lot of our best players in that time were the kids. Albrighton, Clark, Bannan etc. It was the senior ones who were letting us down.
Too right it was.
The young players clearly weren't ready for the responsibility of playing every week and all of them, perhaps with the exception of Clark, dipped markedly in performance after a bright start. That's only to be expected but results improved once we didn't have to rely on them. I think this season they have to show that they're good enough regardless of age.
I dont entirely agree with all that but I agree that they have to show what they're made of soon, and blocking their way with average players who've had their chance and not been good enough is not the way.
To be fair to Hitz, he left us to go and play for a team that go into the Champions league and he then became a regular German international.
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Anyway, we didn't struggle because of them, in fact a lot of our best players in that time were the kids. Albrighton, Clark, Bannan etc. It was the senior ones who were letting us down.
Too right it was.
The young players clearly weren't ready for the responsibility of playing every week and all of them, perhaps with the exception of Clark, dipped markedly in performance after a bright start. That's only to be expected but results improved once we didn't have to rely on them. I think this season they have to show that they're good enough regardless of age.
I dont entirely agree with all that but I agree that they have to show what they're made of soon, and blocking their way with average players who've had their chance and not been good enough is not the way.
To be fair to Hitz, he left us to go and play for a team that go into the Champions league and he then became a regular German international.
He was at his peak in Germany, since he got back and played for West Ham, he's looked more like his first spell for us. Anonymous.
I'll never forget the last few games for us when he knew he was leaving, he shirked every tackle and barely broke sweat.
It was a mystery as to why O'Leary picked him, knowing he was off.
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Anyway, we didn't struggle because of them, in fact a lot of our best players in that time were the kids. Albrighton, Clark, Bannan etc. It was the senior ones who were letting us down.
Too right it was.
The young players clearly weren't ready for the responsibility of playing every week and all of them, perhaps with the exception of Clark, dipped markedly in performance after a bright start. That's only to be expected but results improved once we didn't have to rely on them. I think this season they have to show that they're good enough regardless of age.
I dont entirely agree with all that but I agree that they have to show what they're made of soon, and blocking their way with average players who've had their chance and not been good enough is not the way.
To be fair to Hitz, he left us to go and play for a team that go into the Champions league and he then became a regular German international.
He was at his peak in Germany, since he got back and played for West Ham, he's looked more like his first spell for us. Anonymous.
I'll never forget the last few games for us when he knew he was leaving, he shirked every tackle and barely broke sweat.
It was a mystery as to why O'Leary picked him, knowing he was off.
To be fair to him though, he was out for most of the season with a major injury and it can take time to get back to your "best". With a decent preseason under his belt you never know, he might prove alot of the doubters wrong?
As for DOL, its a mystery why he was ever our manager!
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If Hitzlsperger had never played for us before, and we were getting linked with him now, would the people most keen on his return still be as keen?
Or to flip that question on it's head, if he hadn't played for us in the past. If we were being linked with a different 29 year old international, with more than 50 caps for Germany and a record of scoring a goal every six games across his career who was available on a free transfer - would people be whinging about it so much?
As far as I can tell, people seem to think that he is the same player who left us. I wouldn't want the 21 year old Hitzlsperger back but I've be perfectly happy to have the 29 year old version in our squad.
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When you put it like that Dave then im pretty sure a lot of people would take him, especially on a free!
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If Hitzlsperger had never played for us before, and we were getting linked with him now, would the people most keen on his return still be as keen?
That's football though innit? He's a big fan of the area and the club, you would like to think he would try harder than others. Might not happen that way and yes he is only average, however, we need squad cover that is cheap and if he fits the bill, why not?
If the main appeal is that he knows the club, then maybe we need to re-evaluate how we select our transfer targets.
How many of our previous signings have been targeted using that criteria?
For me, his past connection with the club, going to Villa games in his own free time et.c is a bonus. As someone said earlier in the thread, it won't be a Dunne or Ireland scenario -someone thinking they're doing us a favour just by turning up.
All that said, I have a feeling this won't happen. We were linked when GH was still manager and it would be unusual for the new manager would persist with the same targets.
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All that said, I have a feeling this won't happen. We were linked when GH was still manager and it would be unusual for the new manager would persist with the same targets.
It's just as likely though that he was never a target under Houllier though. I don't think there was ever anything more concrete than invented newspaper gossip.
It's possible that he's still not a target now, but I'd say he's far more likely to appeal to McLeish who (with Gardner last year) at least has form for liking players who can wallop the ball.
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The 29 year old version looked pretty much the same as the 21 year old version: scored a couple of long rangers, ran around a lot in the middle to little effect.
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Totally agree with Dave,
if he hadn't had the injury ravaged season then we could all of been sitting here saying how could we have let him go.
come home Hitz, most fans would love to see you back!!
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As for DOL, its a mystery why he was ever our manager!
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Customer here for you.
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He IS the same player that left us. Just a bit older. I haven't seen a damn thing to say otherwise. Please quantify what it is he's improved at exactly and what he would bring to the party if we re-signed him.
I'm missing this crucial point. Why?
I couldn't give a toss about how many caps he has for Germany. I've seen him play in this league more than occasionally and he has never ever excelled in it. Michael Carrick has umpteen England caps and has a bag full of medals but I would rather boil my own head in a bucket of hot piss than see him wearing a Villa shirt.
The only plus side as I see it is that there would be no transfer fee, but his agent would be looking for a signing on fee to justify that and he'd be on a fair salary. So over the course of three years say, would cost Villa millions and for what? Just to be there in case somebody gets hurt? Be still my beating heart.
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The 29 year old version looked pretty much the same as the 21 year old version: scored a couple of long rangers, ran around a lot in the middle to little effect.
He has to be better than he was at 21, if not his ability then his experience of playing in Germany and Italy should amount to something. I liked Hitz in his time with us, if I had a gripe it would be that he too often went missing for large parts of the game. I wouldn't mind him being added to the squad though as he's every bit as good as Gardner who we were linked with.
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http://www.footymad.net/storytext.asp?article=3706084
Does that armband mean he ever captained Germany or had somebody died?
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he doesnt get in the German side now does he? Not sure if he makes the squad.
I wouldn't have him purely because he would be a squad player at best and I want to see Hogg, Delph & bannan and even Clark in the middle given a run.
Signing him just smacks of mediocraty
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He IS the same player that left us. Just a bit older. I haven't seen a damn thing to say otherwise. Please quantify what it is he's improved at exactly and what he would bring to the party if we re-signed him.
I'm missing this crucial point. Why?
I couldn't give a toss about how many caps he has for Germany. I've seen him play in this league more than occasionally and he has never ever excelled in it. Michael Carrick has umpteen England caps and has a bag full of medals but I would rather boil my own head in a bucket of hot piss than see him wearing a Villa shirt.
The only plus side as I see it is that there would be no transfer fee, but his agent would be looking for a signing on fee to justify that and he'd be on a fair salary. So over the course of three years say, would cost Villa millions and for what? Just to be there in case somebody gets hurt? Be still my beating heart.
Just for the benefit of the audience, how have you managed to see him in this league more than occasionally? Im talking about recent performances now not when he last played for us? Are you going on stats that the press print or have you actually been to the west ham games ? The people we should be asking right now about his performances are west ham fans.
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he doesnt get in the German side now does he? Not sure if he makes the squad.
He was omitted from the 2010 world cup squad.
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I didn't specify when they were, I said I've seen him in this league more than occasionally. In other words, quite a lot for Aston Villa and several times for West Ham. I also saw a few Germany games with him involved a few years ago now.
You're not seriously going to expect me to forget everything I thought about him at Villa are you?
If there is an improvement, from what I have seen, it's marginal at best.
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He was the original Sidwell, with the VERY occasional wonder goal.
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If we base it on the last 18 months:
Injured for 6 months at West Ham
Doesn't make the German squad
Plays in a relegated team and doesnt stand out
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He was the original Sidwell, with the VERY occasional wonder goal.
Quite.
If we base it on the last 18 months:
Injured for 6 months at West Ham
Doesn't make the German squad
Plays in a relegated team and doesnt stand out
And quite.
Anyway, I think I've said enough about this guy. Its not like I disliked him or anything, I just dont rate him.
I doubt there's anything in a return to Villa and I hope there isn't because I dont think it would work out.
Nuff said, as they say.
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He was the original Sidwell, with the VERY occasional wonder goal.
Quite.
Anyway, I think I've said enough about this guy. Its not like I disliked him or anything
Same here.
I think he's a really decent bloke and he provided us with the odd nice memory, but he wasn't good enough then and he isn't good enough now.
As said previously, if he had no Villa history, people would be unanimously against signing him.
Nuff said, as they say.
Okay, Stan Lee.
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I didn't specify when they were, I said I've seen him in this league more than occasionally. In other words, quite a lot for Aston Villa and several times for West Ham. I also saw a few Germany games with him involved a few years ago now.
You're not seriously going to expect me to forget everything I thought about him at Villa are you?
If there is an improvement, from what I have seen, it's marginal at best.
Of course im not expecting you to forget everything you thought of him when he last played for us but that was quite some time ago thats all and just wanted to get a feel of how often you saw him play to make a critical analysis of him as a player.
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SSN reporting today that he wants to rejoin Villa.
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SSN reporting today that he wants to rejoin Villa.
He can want all he likes.
I want to jump in a bathful of Swarfega with Sara Falkland, but it isn't going to happen.
At least that's what the police said anyway.
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From what I've read about his time at West Ham he appeared to be one of the better performers, can't say I've seen much of him playing for them to be honest. You have to bear in mind that he had a long injury lay off and then was thrust back into a failing West Ham team.
We could do with Sendo coming on to give his assessment.
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For all the "we dont want Hitzlesperger back at villa", this may cheer you up if Harry can work his charm....
http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/868262-thomas-hitzlsperger-talks-up-aston-villa-return-despite-spurs-interest
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For all the "we dont want Hitzlesperger back at villa", this may cheer you up if Harry can work his charm....
http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/868262-thomas-hitzlsperger-talks-up-aston-villa-return-despite-spurs-interest
'Arry wants him?
I reckon that's his agent, who also says that Fulham, Blackburn and Stoke want him.
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I agree but I'd prefer Kirsty Gallacher or Natalie Sawyer.
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For all the "we dont want Hitzlesperger back at villa", this may cheer you up if Harry can work his charm....
http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/868262-thomas-hitzlsperger-talks-up-aston-villa-return-despite-spurs-interest
'Arry wants him?
I reckon that's his agent, who also says that Fulham, Blackburn and Stoke want him.
You're probably right. I mean agents do have a habit of talking rubbish e.g. NRC's agent claiming offers from Italy etc and then he's suddenly been linked to WBA and is close to signing.
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I agree but I'd prefer Kirsty Gallacher or Natalie Sawyer.
Hayley McQueen all the way!!! Always wary of stories of players stating what club they want to join. Didn't Kanu love everything about villa at one stage during DOL's reign. Strangely enough when nobody else seemed to want him
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For all the "we dont want Hitzlesperger back at villa", this may cheer you up if Harry can work his charm....
http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/868262-thomas-hitzlsperger-talks-up-aston-villa-return-despite-spurs-interest
'Arry wants him?
I reckon that's his agent, who also says that Fulham, Blackburn and Stoke want him.
You're probably right. I mean agents do have a habit of talking rubbish e.g. NRC's agent claiming offers from Italy etc and then he's suddenly been linked to WBA and is close to signing.
Don't forget Benni Carbone's crazy summer when he had interest from Juvenus, Bayern, Firentina and finally Bradford
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ive voted yes with my first post... ;) contriversial or what !! ::)
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For all the "we dont want Hitzlesperger back at villa", this may cheer you up if Harry can work his charm....
http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/868262-thomas-hitzlsperger-talks-up-aston-villa-return-despite-spurs-interest
'Arry wants him?
I reckon that's his agent, who also says that Fulham, Blackburn and Stoke want him.
You're probably right. I mean agents do have a habit of talking rubbish e.g. NRC's agent claiming offers from Italy etc and then he's suddenly been linked to WBA and is close to signing.
Don't forget Benni Carbone's crazy summer when he had interest from Juvenus, Bayern, Firentina and finally Bradford
He was partly responsible for Bradford's decline.
They paid him a whopping £40,000pw, doesn't seem that unusual now, but it was a massive amount at the time.
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He'd be a good signing on a free as long as he is fit.
He's had a pretty poor injury record over the past few seasons and his career has pretty well stagnated after an excellent first season at Stuttgart. I' m not sure why he seems to have been going backwards since his last season at Stuttgart but he's worth a punt. You dont get a fair few caps for Germany if your not good enough (Kevin Kuranyi excepted) and he could see this as an opportunity to get back into the frame for Germany.
If fit and given a run I reckon he'd do a good job for us and he appears to have a genuine feeling for the club. As an experienced (perhaps back up) player I think he'd be an excellent addition to the squad.
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My take is he's much better than the player we had before. He made an impact on his return to the West Ham side but run out of steam due to a long term injury. Having seen a few West Ham games in the latter stages of the season it looked like his passing had come on leaps and bounds. For free I cannot see what harm it would do. Petrov is not going to impact much this year, NRC has gone, the jury is still out on Makoun and we are hoping Delph does something at last. There's no cash to buy real quality so..........
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I'd never be unhappy to see the Hitz return but I really think we need to stick to a policy of signing a small quantity of first team starters this summer, a handful of players who would go straight into a strongest X1. We have almost a second X1 of young players who can add depth; Hitz falls in between. I wouldn't have him in my strongest X1. We're not going to have a load of spare cash sloshing around to bulk out the squad with older players so we need to be going for nailed-on quality first and foremost.
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Hitz would be a useful squad player if a free - cover at leftback and late subb to replace the tiring Petrov. But he should not be seen as the core around which to build a midfield!
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I liked him but theres 4 reasons why I voted No.
1) Players are rarely a success going back to a previous club.
2) His very best years are behind him. He's still good but I prefer a policy a signing younger players who will get better.
3) He appears more injury prone.
4) Even when he collects the ball 25 yards inside his own half you will get 10,000 people screaming 'shooooooooot'. It really does my head in.
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4) Even when he collects the ball 25 yards inside his own half you will get 10,000 people screaming 'shooooooooot'. It really does my head in.
Oh come on that's the best bit!! Used to love it-bit of a laugh
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I voted NO! We shouldn't be signing any player for any position that isn't an improvement on what we have already. We have a stream of academy players coming through and should not waste money on squad players. Buy two or three top quality players, like Bent or a goalkeeper to fill an obvious shortcoming. Then gradually blood the youngsters till they become established or sell them on if they don't make the grade.
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I'm not sure that his best years are behind him. He's not 30 yet and his game's never been based on pace. Playing alongside Scott Parker for a season would have done him good, and I honestly think that he could come back to us and make an impact.
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I voted yes as long as he is not considered first choice.As a squad player, he would be more than useful .I like the fact that he stated a while back he would love to return to villa one day.We need more players who want to play for our great club.
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I voted yes as long as he is not considered first choice.As a squad player, he would be more than useful .I like the fact that he stated a while back he would love to return to villa one day.We need more players who want to play for our great club.
Our days of paying £60,00pw for people to warm the bench have gone, a big nooooo from me id rather see Gary Gardner on the bench
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Purely on the basis that he can take a free kick.
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He wasn't good enough first time around, so I voted a big fat no.
Lost count of the games he played in that just passed him by, he did'nt get involved enough for me and I don't see any improvement.
A good shot is not all you need for an effective midfield player.
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does anyone know what car he drives?
I've just been overtaken on the M42 between J9 and 10 by a dead ringer in a silver BMW X5
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He drives a BMW X5. He also has a dog called Micha.
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Purely on the basis that he can take a free kick.
Agreed
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Purely on the basis that he can take a free kick.
Agreed
Let's lobby for a change in the rules where we can bring on specialist players for set pieces and then take them off again. I'm sure Rany will be all for it....he might even be able to lend us a couple of Browns to assist.
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Purely on the basis that he can take a free kick.
Agreed
Let's lobby for a change in the rules where we can bring on specialist players for set pieces and then take them off again. I'm sure Rany will be all for it....he might even be able to lend us a couple of Browns to assist.
Yeah but the big problem with that is the Mancs will now be winning free kicks left right and centre, take of Ash for a minute for a 'Specialist' and everyone else will be fucked.