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Title: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Handsworth Wood Villa on April 11, 2011, 11:00:54 PM
Just wondering how us Villa fans would rank Coventry in terms of our derby rivals.

From what I gather, Coventry hate us with a passion (i.e. they still sing SOTV) and they see us as their no.1 rivals (although since we haven't played them for so long they have developed a rivalry with Leicester.)

I think most Villa fans would agree that Blues is our main derby followed by the Albion.

But then Wolves isn't really a massive West Midlands derby is it (doesn't seem to mean to much to either club) so would you say that Cov is a bigger derby than Wolves?

Would you ever find Wolves fans singing like the Coventry fans in these two videos:



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I'd love to face them in the FA Cup or Carling Cup next season.

Everyone loves a derby don't they?
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Greg N'Ash on April 11, 2011, 11:09:50 PM
coventry aren't really rivals. its just that all our local rivals were so bad in the 80's and 90's they were the nearest playable team by default
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Dave Cooper please on April 11, 2011, 11:18:14 PM
It's about as big a rivalry as Berwick Rangers Vs Wick Academy.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: luke25 on April 11, 2011, 11:29:17 PM
They don't even register as far as I'm concerned, could'nt tell you were they are in the championship or name 5 players that currently play for them, a totally insignificant club.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: willywombat on April 11, 2011, 11:41:53 PM
They don't even register as far as I'm concerned, could'nt tell you were they are in the championship or name 5 players that currently play for them, a totally insignificant club.

Exactly how I feel about them, they're a complete irrelevance
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Mellin on April 11, 2011, 11:47:19 PM
I actually quite like them, which says it all.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: cdbearsfan on April 11, 2011, 11:50:00 PM
In the region I most dislike...

1 Birmingham City
2 Stoke City
3 Wolverhampton Wanderers
4 Leicester City
5 West Bromwich Albion

... the other Midlands clubs I tend to hope do well.

Could not give a flying fuck about Coventry.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: eamonn on April 12, 2011, 12:21:19 AM
There's been more Cov threads in the last week since that joker offered Gregory a pen to sign-on the next morning after Robbie Keane (predictably) sunk us in Nov '01(?).
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: AV82EC on April 12, 2011, 01:05:19 AM
Who?
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Vancouver on April 12, 2011, 01:30:49 AM
We think nothing of them but everytime we go there, they turn out for us. It can get quite hairy down there if you nonchalantly wonder about because you're villa. I've seen it kick off many times with random attacks so now I hate them as much as they hate us
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Californian Villain on April 12, 2011, 01:59:56 AM
Q. How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?

Is this a trick question? The answer is that it isn't a derby at all.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: DeKuip on April 12, 2011, 02:15:24 AM
It's not a derby, they just don't like us - and to be fair I can see why they don't.

Their hatred of us was borne 35 years ago this very week on April 13th 1976.

For the benefit of our younger fans...
In the mid-to-late 1960s the top clubs in the Midlands were Coventry, Wolves and Albion - they were the First Division clubs at the time football on TV became really popular with Match of the Day on Saturdays and regional highlights on Sunday afternoons. Coventry (with Ernie Hunt and Willie Carr), Wolves (Dougan, Wagstaffe) and Albion (Jeff Astle) were on Star Soccer all the time, while the likes of Villa and Blues were both struggling at the wrong end of Division Two and only got the occasional showing.
Villa Park was known as the Hall of Memories, and we were written off as a club on its way down and out, while Jimmy Hill's Coventry were seen as the future.

But there was a stirring in Aston - the Villa would rise again. Back we came from the Third Division with record crowds and massive away followings. In 1975-76 we returned to the top division and faced Coventry for the first time ever at that level. We won 1-0 at home early season, no big deal, and then on Tuesday 13th April came the Highfield Road return - we took over the place. It was pay on the gate back then and there were Villa fans everywhere. The dead and buried old club from up the road was back and Cov were just gobsmacked by the kind of support we had. Attendance 27,500 with at least 15,000 Villa in there.

That was the start of it. We carried on taking over their ground and carried on beating them. We went 24 First Division games unbeaten against them and along the way won the League Cup, league title and European Cup. It wasn't until the 25th meeting in 1988 that they finally beat us - and you'd think they'd won the European Cup themselves that day!

I think that's pretty much why they got the hump with us. Not forgetting also that it was us who relegated them and ended their 34 year run in the top division.

Another thing about Villa at Highfield Road - in 1979 we played a League Cup 3rd round 2nd replay there against Crystal Palace. No more than several hundred Palace fans made it up for the midweek game but the crowd was 25,445 (3,000 more than Cov's average). That's around 24,000 Villa fans at an away midweek game in the early rounds of the League Cup - not a bad effort.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Hillbilly on April 12, 2011, 03:19:33 AM
I've been told that they have a split personality. Fans from the city and up along the A45 hate us. Fans from the hinterlands of Warks hate Leicester.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: olaftab on April 12, 2011, 04:04:30 AM
Was discussed with total revulsion  in  "Cov on the brink" a few weeks ago.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: robbo1874 on April 12, 2011, 04:52:25 AM
wan't it '98 before they beat us? - FA cup on Valentines day IIRC
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Deano's Mullet on April 12, 2011, 06:06:07 AM
I remember a run from 1993-98 ish where we were their bogey side which pissed them off no end. We won at Highfield Road about 4-5 seasons running including at least two televised games. And of course Super Savo scored five in two matches with them one season.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: *shellac* on April 12, 2011, 07:33:19 AM
Derby?  The answer is NO.

But I like the fact that we relegated them.

And Angel scored his first goal for us.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: lordmcgrath5 on April 12, 2011, 07:58:43 AM
It's not a derby, they just don't like us - and to be fair I can see why they don't.
Their hatred of us was borne 35 years ago this very week on April 13th 1976.

Thanks for that, DeKuip, a very enjoyable read. Reminds me - I've been meaning to re-read "Children of the Revolution" for a while now.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: LeeB on April 12, 2011, 07:59:23 AM
Just below Paget Rangers
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: cheltenhamlion on April 12, 2011, 08:24:53 AM
They don't count at all. We just developed a dislike for them as we had nobody else to hate for a number of years.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: UsualSuspect on April 12, 2011, 08:43:34 AM
Not a derby at all for me

Although how I laughed watching them cry when we relegated them
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Blackcountry Villa on April 12, 2011, 08:47:26 AM
Couldn't care less about them, although sending them down was funny, especially after being two down. Their hatred for us is laughable aswell. It would be good to get them away in the Carling or FA Cup next season though and take 6000 there.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Dave P on April 12, 2011, 09:00:24 AM
Everyone loves a derby don't they?

No.  May the other midlands teams rot in the championship at best!
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on April 12, 2011, 09:01:13 AM
I don't give a shit about them and I don't know a single cov supporter. On the other hand I know lots of noses and have the misfortune of working with others so I hate them a lot more
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Villan For Life on April 12, 2011, 09:14:34 AM
Insignificant. Villa - Coventry has never been a derby to me. It doesn't carry the same emotional pull as games against Blose or the other clubs in the industrial west midlands.

I did enjoy the second half when we sent them down though!
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Rico on April 12, 2011, 09:16:51 AM
Not really a Derby is it? Couldn't give a monkeys about them! Always found their hatred of us amusing. Thẹ only two derbies I care about are thẹ noses and thẹ baggies
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: JJ-AV on April 12, 2011, 09:18:49 AM
They don't even register as far as I'm concerned, could'nt tell you were they are in the championship or name 5 players that currently play for them, a totally insignificant club.

Exactly how I feel about them, they're a complete irrelevance

Thirded.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Pete3206 on April 12, 2011, 09:34:16 AM
I'm going against popular opinion, but this is a derby.

Anyone who ever made the short trip to Highfield Road will tell you what the atmosphere was like inside the ground. It was pure hatred, a derby atmosphere. And the FA Cup defeat at home? The atmosphere was poisonous that day and the defeat hurt like hell.

Also, last day wins at home in 91-92 and when they went down were fantastic days. Villa Park was really rocking. And what about the Savo hatrick in 1995-96?

An irrevelavance? So why are they regularly discussed? The fixture will never rival Blues or Albion, but there will always be an edge to the game if we ever find ourselves in the same division again.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: WikiVilla on April 12, 2011, 09:59:51 AM
What's with all the Coventry threads these days ?
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Greg N'Ash on April 12, 2011, 10:02:21 AM
ah yes Highfield Road - on a par with the sty that place. their away end was just a concrete sheep pen. I know the awayends in the standing days were never much to write home about but coventry surpassed themselves with that one.  then they moved the away fans to some temporary thing to the side which bloody moved everytime more than 3 people stood up at once.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: WikiVilla on April 12, 2011, 10:04:36 AM
Running battles across the park
Oh happy days
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: badluckeric(gates) on April 12, 2011, 10:06:32 AM
I always find their hatred of us highly amusing, it really is a case of an ant trying to upset a rhino.
We really aren't even aware of their existence 99.9% of the time.
I have no feelings towards them but it is just funny.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on April 12, 2011, 10:42:06 AM
We have no local 'rivals'. Neighbours? Yes. Local derbies? Yes. Rivals? No.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on April 12, 2011, 10:51:43 AM
They detest us with a passion.

I think you could call it small man syndrome.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Shepton Bob on April 12, 2011, 11:00:04 AM
de Kuip wrote:

"Another thing about Villa at Highfield Road - in 1979 we played a League Cup 3rd round 2nd replay there against Crystal Palace. No more than several hundred Palace fans made it up for the midweek game but the crowd was 25,445 (3,000 more than Cov's average). That's around 24,000 Villa fans at an away midweek game in the early rounds of the League Cup - not a bad effort."

Thanks for reminding me of that game. I went with my late father to that game. Wow the memories came flooding back with your statement. Thanks for that.  A game and occasion we both enjoyed   RIP Dad HEITS .
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Jonathan Collett on April 12, 2011, 11:50:45 AM
Think it goes a bit deeper than people realise. Coventry was a hugely important historical city and certainly the most important in the traditional county of Warwickshire for many centuries. Birmingham grew rapidly and relatively recently and completely overshadowed Coventry - industrially as well as in status. So there is a huge inferiority complex in Coventry towards Birmingham anyway. Made much worse by Coventry being forced out of "Warwickshire" administrative area and into the unloved West Midlands conurbation again under Birmingham's shadow.

Add all this to the fact that Villa draw a lot of support from areas that Coventry would expect to be theirs such as Nuneaton, Kenilworth, Stratford, Warwick and even Coventry itself and there is a lot of resentment.

In a way it is deeper hatred than a derby which would be a rivalry as it is based on bitterness and resentment.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: cdbearsfan on April 12, 2011, 11:58:58 AM
wan't it '98 before they beat us? - FA cup on Valentines day IIRC

That was their first win at Villa Park. First win against us at Highfield Road was 1988-89 season.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Lambert and Payne on April 12, 2011, 12:51:09 PM
Not sure it's a derby, games would be interesting if we were to play them, especially at the Ricoh, i know a Cov fan who says its split, Villa and Leicester although some think its Wolves. I would love to play them at the Ricoh
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on April 12, 2011, 01:15:43 PM
Worked at Unipart right by the Ricoh and to be far they are fine about Villa and dont even see us as a "rival" or "enemy. We have been apart that long they have other teams that have forged bigger animosity .......
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Tokyo Sexwhale on April 12, 2011, 01:20:08 PM
It would make more sense for them to forge a rivalry with Blues - they're about the same size.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: darren woolley on April 12, 2011, 01:41:13 PM
I don't really care about Coventry to me it's not a derby loved it when we sent them down though.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Mac on April 12, 2011, 01:43:21 PM
It's only a rivalry from one perspective.

They're like our younger brothers.  They get jumped up aspirations every one in a while and we give them a slapping down to remind them who's boss.

Remember the guy with the "We'll be back" banner when we relegated them?  We're still waiting.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Handsworth Wood Villa on April 12, 2011, 03:05:32 PM
I'm going against popular opinion, but this is a derby.

Anyone who ever made the short trip to Highfield Road will tell you what the atmosphere was like inside the ground. It was pure hatred, a derby atmosphere. And the FA Cup defeat at home? The atmosphere was poisonous that day and the defeat hurt like hell.

Also, last day wins at home in 91-92 and when they went down were fantastic days. Villa Park was really rocking. And what about the Savo hatrick in 1995-96?

An irrevelavance? So why are they regularly discussed? The fixture will never rival Blues or Albion, but there will always be an edge to the game if we ever find ourselves in the same division again.


This.

From what I gather:

Blues hate us.
Albion hate Wolves, but only really dislike us.
Wolves are indifferent to us.
Walsall - pre-season friendly
Stoke - not a real derby
East Midland teams (Forest, Derby, Leicester) - not a real derby
Cov hate us.

So surely the fact that Cov fans hate us so much, means that we hate them a least a bit back.

Surely any Villa-hater (Blues or Cov) is an enemy to us Villa fans?
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: not3bad on April 12, 2011, 03:08:52 PM
Albion hate Wolves, but only really dislike us.

Wolves really hate Albion, Albion did really hate Villa but got a bit distracted by Wolves along the way.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: DeKuip on April 12, 2011, 03:25:42 PM
Surely any Villa-hater (Blues or Cov) is an enemy to us Villa fans?


Why? You'd need to be pretty small-minded or bitter to go through life with that attitude?

My ex hates me... whereas I only ever wish her health and happiness.

Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Blackcountry Villa on April 12, 2011, 03:27:27 PM
Albion hate Wolves, but only really dislike us.

Wolves really hate Albion, Albion did really hate Villa but got a bit distracted by Wolves along the way.
A lot of the older Albion fans hate Villa, whereas their younger fans tend to hate Wolves more. It's because they grew up with Albion and Wolves in the same division and were always playing each other.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on April 12, 2011, 07:00:27 PM
I think Coventry is one of those places which suffers an identity crisis straddling the west and east midlands. (A bit like Stoke not knowing if its in the midlands or the north) They will direct hatred in our direction but we dont think of them as rivals as we have closer neighbours. I am sure they also direct antipathy towards Leicester City, but Leicester being clearly east midlands probably views Derby and Forest as their main rivals. Leicester may for all I know debate 'Cov syndrome` in similar terms to us, from their perspective Coventry is a small town on the edge of Birmingham. Whereas we see it as somewhere you pass on the way to a day in London.
Im sure the hatred on their part isnt universal, the worst excesses may well be encouraged by a lunatic fringe of Nuneaton Borough fans who are the Millwall of non league circles.

Do they ever direct hatred towards Bayern Munich, Eintracht Frankfurt, Borussia Dortmund etc. ? Even if your not old enough to remember the Luftwaffe bombing the crap out of where you  live, you still as a result are surrounded by probably some of the worst 1960s architecture anywhere in Britain.

   
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: eastie on April 12, 2011, 07:20:50 PM
The fact they never beat us from 1937 home or away in over 50 years I'm sure made them see us as a team they were desperate to beat and being beaten home and away so many times in the 70s and 80s I'm sure added to their woes.

To them it's a huge game but to us it's not that big a deal.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: luke25 on April 12, 2011, 07:46:50 PM
Surely any Villa-hater (Blues or Cov) is an enemy to us Villa fans?


Why? You'd need to be pretty small-minded or bitter to go through life with that attitude?

My ex hates me... whereas I only ever wish her health and happiness.


And I bet that makes her hate you even more, well played mate!
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: The Left Side on April 12, 2011, 08:07:04 PM
Who?
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: AV82EC on April 12, 2011, 08:21:11 PM
I think Coventry is one of those places which suffers an identity crisis straddling the west and east midlands. (A bit like Stoke not knowing if its in the midlands or the north) They will direct hatred in our direction but we dont think of them as rivals as we have closer neighbours. I am sure they also direct antipathy towards Leicester City, but Leicester being clearly east midlands probably views Derby and Forest as their main rivals. Leicester may for all I know debate 'Cov syndrome` in similar terms to us, from their perspective Coventry is a small town on the edge of Birmingham. Whereas we see it as somewhere you pass on the way to a day in London.
Im sure the hatred on their part isnt universal, the worst excesses may well be encouraged by a lunatic fringe of Nuneaton Borough fans who are the Millwall of non league circles.

Do they ever direct hatred towards Bayern Munich, Eintracht Frankfurt, Borussia Dortmund etc. ? Even if your not old enough to remember the Luftwaffe bombing the crap out of where you  live, you still as a result are surrounded by probably some of the worst 1960s architecture anywhere in Britain.

   

Just spoken to a Leicester supporting mate of mine, he feels Forest is their biggest derby followed by Derby.  He sees Cov as a West Mids club!! However he said his Leicester supporting mates from Hinckley/Nuneaton see Cov as the main event.  He then said everyone from Hinckley and Nuneaton is an inbred so no-one listens to them anyway.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on April 12, 2011, 08:57:14 PM
Coventry City should be universally dispised for no other reason than causing a Monty Python sketch to become dated.
Their winning of the FA Cup in 1987 had the same effect as if Spam had been banned.

   
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: charlie659 on April 12, 2011, 09:22:19 PM
Can't fkin stand 'em, worked with them and lived amongst them and they're as bad as noses.
I always enjoy playing and beating them, third in line behind dog shit & olbiyun.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: flybo on April 13, 2011, 07:07:48 AM
Who?
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: robbo1874 on April 13, 2011, 11:46:15 AM
I grew up in Nuneaton - Cov are scum on the whole. (Maybe) like noses, you'll know individual ones that are alright, probably have mates that are Cov fans. But as a club, their disproportionate hatred towards Villa and their bitter nastyness, based on their inferiority complex just makes you dislike them - whether you see them as rivals, or not. They're like a Blues mini-me
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: D.boy on April 13, 2011, 07:15:28 PM
As others have said "Who"
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: *shellac* on April 14, 2011, 07:08:33 AM
Won't Get Fooled Again to post another Who? answer.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: peter w on April 14, 2011, 05:11:45 PM
We should actually just say to them that whilst we know they hate us, we actually quite like them. that'd wind them up no end. I'm starting my, 'Lets love Coventry club'. Who's in?
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: luke25 on April 14, 2011, 05:23:05 PM
We should actually just say to them that whilst we know they hate us, we actually quite like them. that'd wind them up no end. I'm starting my, 'Lets love Coventry club'. Who's in?
I like it, they already think were patronising bastards, we should start up a 'Pat a Coventry fan on the head campaign'.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: peter w on April 14, 2011, 05:25:59 PM
Why not just go up to them and give them a hug?
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: luke25 on April 14, 2011, 05:28:58 PM
Get Lenny Henry on board and we could take it global.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Witton Warrior on April 14, 2011, 05:32:22 PM

A lot of the older Albion fans hate Villa
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I hate the Albion more than SHA
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: peter w on April 14, 2011, 05:35:48 PM
Get Lenny Henry on board and we could take it global.

I'm liking it more and more. He could break down in tears whilst hugging them and then buy them a house.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: cheltenhamlion on April 14, 2011, 07:44:24 PM
And making me play with entry level further education in their hovel of a town.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: peter w on April 14, 2011, 09:48:22 PM
Is all this Coventry talk messing with your head Cheltenham?
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: flybo on April 14, 2011, 11:29:35 PM

A lot of the older Albion fans hate Villa
same here tescobags are scum

I hate the Albion more than SHA
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Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: the-farmer on April 15, 2011, 10:46:59 PM
living nearer to Coventry than Villa, I sometimes listen to their local radio station

they're even jealous that Take That are playing at VP not the Ricoh !
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Handsworth Wood Villa on September 27, 2011, 02:04:08 PM
Coventry give you an allocation of over 6000 tickets in the league at the Ricoh.

Look how many Leicester fans are there in the below video:



Let''s hope we draw them in the FA Cup.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Vanilla on September 27, 2011, 03:21:59 PM
It meant more to them than it did to us. I remember they were a bankable 3 points at one time, especially at VP.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: The Moose on September 27, 2011, 04:45:14 PM
Ha ha ha!! Coventry?? Haaaa haaahahaaaaa!!!!
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Damo70 on September 27, 2011, 06:21:36 PM
It's the world's biggest one sided derby. I was at Highfield Road many times for their game of the season. Maybe if they hadn't been so desperate to hate us we wouldn't have found relegating them so funny.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: nodge on September 27, 2011, 06:46:21 PM
They'll be back you know. Still waiting.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Stu on September 27, 2011, 07:10:12 PM
They'll be back you know. Still waiting.

They're in the shit too - same as the dogshitters, it seems no-one is sure who owns them: MP calls for league clubs 'transparency' over Coventry City ownership (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/sep/27/coventry-city-ownership-football-league).
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: The Man With A Stick on September 27, 2011, 07:15:29 PM
They're about as significant as... something very insignificant.

"WE'LL BE BACK"

No, you won't.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Lambert and Payne on September 27, 2011, 08:07:36 PM
Its dying, their older lot hate us, the new generation hate 'fester'. They wont play us again and eventually it will mean nothing to them
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: rob_bridge on September 27, 2011, 11:22:37 PM
Coventry is a shit hole. A small minded city with a smaller minded bunch of shitheads making up a higher than healthy proportion of the populace. We have 2 local rivals - one more so than the other.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Handsworth Wood Villa on September 27, 2011, 11:35:48 PM
the new generation hate 'fester'.

Also known as 'incester' by the Cov fans
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: hawkeye on September 27, 2011, 11:40:08 PM
I allways feel a bit sorry for Cov fans because they are so sad, I used to like going to Highfield Road as an away game except that Boxing Day when Mickey fkin Quinn scored a hatrick i think. They used to be our feeder club.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: TonyD on September 27, 2011, 11:43:22 PM
I used to like it when we played Cov. Always a good game going to HR and VP for the games except for the one when the Scouse spit the dog bloke undid at HR on Boxing Day.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: willywombat on September 29, 2011, 05:26:28 AM
I used to like it when we played Cov. Always a good game going to HR and VP for the games except for the one when the Scouse spit the dog bloke undid at HR on Boxing Day.

That was the game where Paul McGrath subsequently admitted to being pissed wasn't it? The whole day was a f*cking misery, went in a mates car that kept breaking down so had to get out and push as car loads of felchers drove past taking the piss. Stood in that poxy open end watched us get taken apart then got attacked on the way back to the car
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on September 29, 2011, 12:17:59 PM
Probably never  bigger than 2nd round league cup or 3rd round FA cup match.
After this season they will be having to win a game or two to get that far and even be in the hat with the us.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: eastie on September 29, 2011, 04:27:25 PM
I allways feel a bit sorry for Cov fans because they are so sad, I used to like going to Highfield Road as an away game except that Boxing Day when Mickey fkin Quinn scored a hatrick i think. They used to be our feeder club.

Quinn only scored 2 goals that day, rosario got the other.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Ads on September 29, 2011, 08:46:40 PM
Every year they used to throw all sorts over the barrier with the stewards doing nowt, until the year they sang "getting sacked in the morning" when some loon vaulted the barrier and banjoed this Cov arse into next Monday.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Pete3206 on September 29, 2011, 09:44:09 PM
Coventry is a shit hole. A small minded city with a smaller minded bunch of shitheads making up a higher than healthy proportion of the populace. We have 2 local rivals - one more so than the other.

An interesting assessment. It's also totally wrong.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Blackcountry Villa on September 30, 2011, 09:34:39 AM
I always slightly hope we draw them away in the FA Cup 3rd round or the Carling Cup, 6000 Villa there taking the piss would be a laugh (when Lerner and McLeish have fucked off though so i can go). They would get their biggest crowd ever at their new ground for us, i think the only time they've sold out previously was against Chelsea in the cup?
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Lambert and Payne on September 30, 2011, 12:48:38 PM
I always slightly hope we draw them away in the FA Cup 3rd round or the Carling Cup, 6000 Villa there taking the piss would be a laugh (when Lerner and McLeish have fucked off though so i can go).
Can you also stop posting shite until lerner and mcleish 'fuck off'. Pretty please
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Chris Smith on September 30, 2011, 01:13:24 PM
I always slightly hope we draw them away in the FA Cup 3rd round or the Carling Cup, 6000 Villa there taking the piss would be a laugh (when Lerner and McLeish have fucked off though so i can go). They would get their biggest crowd ever at their new ground for us, i think the only time they've sold out previously was against Chelsea in the cup?

I hope McLeish is with us for 20 years, you can go and support the Baggies - they hate the Villa as much as you do.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Damo70 on September 30, 2011, 02:34:39 PM
I allways feel a bit sorry for Cov fans because they are so sad, I used to like going to Highfield Road as an away game except that Boxing Day when Mickey fkin Quinn scored a hatrick i think. They used to be our feeder club.

Quinn only scored 2 goals that day, rosario got the other.

Are you sure, because I was there and the way I remembered it Quinn got all three. Secondly, I find the Rosario bit unlikely. Isn't he the striker who made Carl Leaburn look prolific?
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: eastie on September 30, 2011, 03:03:13 PM
I allways feel a bit sorry for Cov fans because they are so sad, I used to like going to Highfield Road as an away game except that Boxing Day when Mickey fkin Quinn scored a hatrick i think. They used to be our feeder club.

Quinn only scored 2 goals that day, rosario got the other.

Are you sure, because I was there and the way I remembered it Quinn got all three. Secondly, I find the Rosario bit unlikely. Isn't he the striker who made Carl Leaburn look prolific?

Positive , i was there too and have the highlights on a dvd -quinn scored twice and rosario got the other-dreadful day and put a real damper on the festive season.


Where Quinn had pacy wide players stretching the defence, notably Kevin Gallacher, Saunders had to forage ever deeper for the ball. The wing play of the injured Stephen Froggatt was vital to his early success, and Coventry's second, expertly converted by the right boot of Quinn after Rosario's cross, was a reminder of an element Villa have lost.

Rosario, after a reciprocal gesture by Quinn, completed a burst of three goals in 10 minutes, and it could have been more. After Ron Atkinson's angry rebuke - 'The worst performance since I've been at the club . . . we were hopeless and then we got worse' - Villa will relish an immediate opportunity to redeem themselves against Arsenal tonight.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football-quinns-essential-instincts-coventry-prey-on-contenders-1565707.html
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Damo70 on September 30, 2011, 03:09:25 PM
Typical. Now I think about it, I'm sure Carl bloody Leaburn managed to score against us too!
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: wombat on October 01, 2011, 09:08:28 AM
Typical. Now I think about it, I'm sure Carl bloody Leaburn managed to score against us too!

Yes he did for Charlton........ home and away! One at Charlton where Spink goes AWOL and the commentator says something along the lines of 'What are Villa doing? What is Spink doing? Villa in total disarray and Leaburn makes it two, terrible defending from Villa'.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: joe_c on October 01, 2011, 10:27:56 AM
You know what this is?
(http://www.llanelliscar.co.uk/images/worlds_smallest_violin.gif)
It's the world's smallest derby just for the Coventry City fans.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Blackcountry Villa on October 01, 2011, 03:01:26 PM
I always slightly hope we draw them away in the FA Cup 3rd round or the Carling Cup, 6000 Villa there taking the piss would be a laugh (when Lerner and McLeish have fucked off though so i can go). They would get their biggest crowd ever at their new ground for us, i think the only time they've sold out previously was against Chelsea in the cup?

I hope McLeish is with us for 20 years, you can go and support the Baggies - they hate the Villa as much as you do.
Haha what a fanny.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Ryu on October 01, 2011, 07:41:35 PM
"Haha what a fanny."

Worst.  Post. Ever.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Stu on October 01, 2011, 07:44:50 PM
Coventry is a shit hole. A small minded city with a smaller minded bunch of shitheads making up a higher than healthy proportion of the populace. We have 2 local rivals - one more so than the other.

Small minded? You've just tarred about 300,000 people with the same brush mate.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Damo70 on October 01, 2011, 08:33:31 PM
Typical. Now I think about it, I'm sure Carl bloody Leaburn managed to score against us too!

Yes he did for Charlton........ home and away! One at Charlton where Spink goes AWOL and the commentator says something along the lines of 'What are Villa doing? What is Spink doing? Villa in total disarray and Leaburn makes it two, terrible defending from Villa'.

It was Brian Moore - "What's Spink doing? And what's he doing now?!" Good old Brian's voice was getting more high pitched with every word. It was on the season highlights video (88-89 I think) and I took great delight in showing my mate who worshipped Nigel Spink.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Lambert and Payne on October 02, 2011, 08:50:58 AM
Seriously bc villa, why don't you fuck off? Most people come crawling out of the woodwork when things go well, you got it all arse about face, moan moan moan. Bore off, bet you were well gutted with the win yesterday

On the actual subject of the thread, its gunna be interesting to see their attendances next year from league 1
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Chris Smith on October 02, 2011, 09:22:27 AM
I always slightly hope we draw them away in the FA Cup 3rd round or the Carling Cup, 6000 Villa there taking the piss would be a laugh (when Lerner and McLeish have fucked off though so i can go). They would get their biggest crowd ever at their new ground for us, i think the only time they've sold out previously was against Chelsea in the cup?

I hope McLeish is with us for 20 years, you can go and support the Baggies - they hate the Villa as much as you do.
Haha what a fanny.

You must be gutted that we won again and are sixth in the table while your new team threw away a two goal lead.  You're not boinging anymore.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Handsworth Wood Villa on November 17, 2011, 04:32:48 PM
West Ham taking 6,200 fans to the Ricoh on Saturday (http://www.ccfc.co.uk/page/TicketNews/0,,10269~2510105,00.html)
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Iago on November 17, 2011, 04:43:44 PM
West Ham taking 6,200 fans to the Ricoh on Saturday (http://www.ccfc.co.uk/page/TicketNews/0,,10269~2510105,00.html)
And?
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Handsworth Wood Villa on November 17, 2011, 04:50:57 PM
West Ham taking 6,200 fans to the Ricoh on Saturday (http://www.ccfc.co.uk/page/TicketNews/0,,10269~2510105,00.html)
And?

That could be us if we draw them in the FA Cup  ;)
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: dicedlam on November 17, 2011, 08:30:52 PM
Why does this thread rear its head every now and then? 

Must have closet cov fan's on the boards, because for the life of me, I cant see any Villa fan giving a toss what bloody crowd they might draw on Saturday..
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: willywombat on November 17, 2011, 09:01:19 PM
Why does this thread rear its head every now and then? 

Must have closet cov fan's on the boards, because for the life of me, I cant see any Villa fan giving a toss what bloody crowd they might draw on Saturday..

My sentiments exactly. They interest me as much as Notts County or Oxford Utd ie not at all
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: midnite on November 17, 2011, 09:48:12 PM
The only time i actually remember coventry exists is when i pass through it on the train... No Coventry City is not a derby for me.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: AVFCRob on November 18, 2011, 02:18:34 PM
One of my worst days as a Villa fan was when Cov held us 0-0 at our place on the same day that Steve Bruce scored twice for Man U in injury time to beat Sheff Weds 2-1 when we were both going for the title ('91,'92?).

Cov players and Bobby Gould celebrating like they'd won the FA Cup final then getting back to Aston station and getting gobbed on by Cov fans as their football special train went past.

Horrible on too many levels to ever fully forget!
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: The Left Side on November 19, 2011, 09:25:33 PM
Well they look like they will finally get relegated this year as the gap between them and the rest of the pack is growing, woo hoo!
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: olofmilosevic on November 19, 2011, 10:02:35 PM
Everyone loves a derby don't they?

No.  May the other midlands teams rot in the championship at best!

this!!

Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 20, 2011, 12:18:37 AM
Comedy winner for West Ham today.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Handsworth Wood Villa on November 20, 2011, 12:27:36 AM
Everyone loves a derby don't they?

No.  May the other midlands teams rot in the championship at best!

this!!

I'm the opposite.

I want all the Midlands clubs in the Championship to get promoted.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Lambert and Payne on November 21, 2011, 05:10:44 PM
Everyone loves a derby don't they?

No.  May the other midlands teams rot in the championship at best!

this!!

I'm the opposite.

I want all the Midlands clubs in the Championship to get promoted.
I'd rather just the odd cup game over the years just to let them know their place. Blose coming up for a seasopn every 5 years or so for a stuffing wouldn't be a bad thing
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: lichfield lion on November 28, 2011, 11:56:37 AM
West Brom has always been our 'true' derby. Before we were part of Birmingham, blues didn't even come close to it!
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: N'ZMAV on November 28, 2011, 12:05:28 PM
Only the Blues game feels like a Derby to me, Wolves & WBA have a little something, but are nowhere near as important to me.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Handsworth Wood Villa on April 21, 2012, 06:36:12 PM
Coventry relegated  :(

Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: jimmygreen on April 21, 2012, 07:03:19 PM
Sod 'em.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: bertlambshank on April 21, 2012, 07:15:42 PM
Sod 'em.
Nah,fuck 'em.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: swiss1968 on April 21, 2012, 07:23:34 PM
We'll be back ?? Again ?  ;D
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: jimmygreen on April 21, 2012, 07:41:47 PM
Sod 'em.
Nah,fuck 'em.

Yeah that too if you like.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on April 21, 2012, 09:06:39 PM
Good riddance.

I hope their balls turn square and fester at the edges.

Stick the 'all fans together' bullshit up your arses.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Steve kirk on April 21, 2012, 09:42:36 PM
Delighted they are down, I lived in Coventry for best part of 30 years and their fans hate us with a passion, spiteful horrible little club, good riddance.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 21, 2012, 09:45:16 PM
I wonder if they'll start hating Walsall now that it's their local derby?
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: danlanza on April 21, 2012, 09:53:13 PM
Coventry relegated  :(
Happy days.Horrible spitefull twats anyway.May they fall like a fuckin stone into obscurity.Better be carefull though,it could be us if we don't change things a bit rapid.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: SX150 on April 21, 2012, 10:29:26 PM
Coventry relegated  :(


Fuck em is the right answer, along with the Dog Shite.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on April 21, 2012, 10:38:05 PM
in answer to the thread:
Not much.
WBA were our traditional "enemy" cos they were once nearly as good as us for many years as well as being very close to us geographically. The Scum thing came a bit later - they were so shit we never had anything to do with them - 'til early 60s perhaps?

My mate was a Cov fan when they won they the FA Cup. He's been very quiet since!
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Chris Harte on April 21, 2012, 10:40:57 PM
Horrible spitefull twats anyway.
To answer the question in the title of the thread, not very, although the above made their relegation in our back yard all the more gleeful.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Tom Sawyer on April 21, 2012, 10:45:26 PM
A minor skirmish
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: The Left Side on April 21, 2012, 10:58:46 PM
Who?
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Des Little on April 21, 2012, 11:09:34 PM
Fcuking great news.  I hate them bastards...and don't think for a minute they won't be feeling the same if we drop, because they will. 
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Witton Warrior on April 21, 2012, 11:14:20 PM
I remember them now!
We used to beat them all the time.

How are they doing?

Relegated you say.

Meh
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Risso on April 22, 2012, 12:33:06 AM
At least we won't have to play them next season now. ;)
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Louzie0 on April 22, 2012, 12:37:28 AM
At least we won't have to play them next season now. ;)

Let's not be too quick to dismiss the romance/magic of the FA cup draws.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 22, 2012, 12:38:11 AM
Did he write another one today or just use the same one?

(http://www.ccfc.co.uk/javaImages/b8/d0/0,,10269~3002552,00.jpg)
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: JUAN PABLO on April 22, 2012, 12:54:48 AM
Did he write another one today or just use the same one?

(http://www.ccfc.co.uk/javaImages/b8/d0/0,,10269~3002552,00.jpg)



;)    funny , like it.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Villan For Life on April 22, 2012, 09:50:19 AM
Did he write another one today or just use the same one?

(http://www.ccfc.co.uk/javaImages/b8/d0/0,,10269~3002552,00.jpg)



;)    funny , like it.

Is that written on wallpaper? His carers won't be happy when they discover the results of such wanton vandalism!
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: VillaBobby on April 22, 2012, 01:11:27 PM
I loved seeing their tears when we relegated them. Well down the lists of rivals but always game and don't like Brummies. I got nicked there one year because a fella in his 40s started punching a kid in his teens because he was wearing a Villa shirt!

The retarded bully got severely dealt with.

Nasty man.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Vanilla on April 22, 2012, 01:18:29 PM
I loved seeing their tears when we relegated them. Well down the lists of rivals but always game and don't like Brummies. I got nicked there one year because a fella in his 40s started punching a kid in his teens because he was wearing a Villa shirt!

The retarded bully got severely dealt with.

Nasty man.

I remember in the late 90s some 'Villa fans' starting on a Coventry fan and giving him a kicking on the floor by Witton Station. When real Villa fans pointed out the culprits to the solitary Police Officer, he pretended he couldn't see them. I assume he was awaiting back up.

Anyway, I'm quite sad to see them go down. Their fans were fobbed off with the idea that a mega arena would benefit the club at the expense of squad investment.


Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: VillaBobby on April 22, 2012, 01:46:15 PM
I loved seeing their tears when we relegated them. Well down the lists of rivals but always game and don't like Brummies. I got nicked there one year because a fella in his 40s started punching a kid in his teens because he was wearing a Villa shirt!

The retarded bully got severely dealt with.

Nasty man.

I remember in the late 90s some 'Villa fans' starting on a Coventry fan and giving him a kicking on the floor by Witton Station. When real Villa fans pointed out the culprits to the solitary Police Officer, he pretended he couldn't see them. I assume he was awaiting back up.

Anyway, I'm quite sad to see them go down. Their fans were fobbed off with the idea that a mega arena would benefit the club at the expense of squad investment.




The stadium is owned by the council. They sold Highfield road for what is now a housing development and wasted the money. A bit like Lerner is doing with some of the assets of Aston Villa.

As for "Villa fans" comment, I don't condone violence at football, but it was part and parcel of being a football fan during the 70s & 80s. I remember vividly going to places like Liverpool, Manchester and the vast majority of towns and cities across England and experiencing aggression with the odd beating, but it made me more resolute in my love for Aston Villa.

Not right but it happened.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Pete3206 on April 22, 2012, 02:06:08 PM
I think it was part and parcel of the 70's and 80's if you went looking for it. There were occasions when it was difficult to avoid, but it doesn't mean you had to join in. In all the years I've traveled away with Villa, I've never had so much as a scratch. The example of that Cov fan is unfortunate and I'm sure that there are many examples of being in the wrong place at the wrong time, but I honestly believe that now, as then, you can't find trouble if you don't want it.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: VillaBobby on April 22, 2012, 10:34:37 PM
I think it was part and parcel of the 70's and 80's if you went looking for it. There were occasions when it was difficult to avoid, but it doesn't mean you had to join in. In all the years I've traveled away with Villa, I've never had so much as a scratch. The example of that Cov fan is unfortunate and I'm sure that there are many examples of being in the wrong place at the wrong time, but I honestly believe that now, as then, you can't find trouble if you don't want it.

I disagree, I found untold trouble during the 80s as a young man without ever looking for it. But it was part of going to the football, and it I still go now and take my children.

Take off the blinkers. It is what it was. No complaints here.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Dave Clark Five on April 22, 2012, 10:54:50 PM
During the 80s particularly, there were some places where trouble would find you whether you liked it or not. The 70s was similar. Football specials with 60 people on to places like Forest and Bristol, 300 Villa at Leeds; it was a grim time. 
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Vancouver on April 23, 2012, 04:32:06 AM
A few years when we played them at their place I saw how wound up they were. They were baying for blood in and out of the ground. Villa fans around laughed it off. Outside it was crazy shit and the walk back to the station through the park was nuts. I was with my dad and some geezers were trying to start on us. A friend was battered outside and put in hospital. We passed a pub with a load of them mobbing up, formulating a plan, then breaking up into small group to attack the villa. We missed it but folk at the station were commenting on the trouble. Can't remember the year but it was 1-1. I think Dublin scored for us.

Ever since then I have hated them
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: cheltenhamlion on April 23, 2012, 08:45:09 AM
Coventry are a nothing club, in a nothing city. They hate us with the same backwards bile you get from noses.

They aren't really a rival but their rabid hatred makes it very funny when they are struggling.

A plague on all your houses.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on April 23, 2012, 09:01:14 AM
Hahahahaha fuck em

Can go down and down for me
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on April 23, 2012, 09:26:47 AM
Quote
Can't remember the year


It was every year

Those long escorts back to Coventry station from Highfield Road were always fun. And the experience was usually rounded off with a mob of Blues waiting at New street for our return
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Brend'Watkins on April 23, 2012, 09:39:24 AM
You could but it was difficult to travel away in those days to not see the potential for trouble around you as Chico has pointed out.  Even if you chose to go by coach or in a mates car or with a mate in his Dad's car the motorway services at times could also be tricky places at times with coaches from many different clubs parking up in the same place. 

Having not been on a football coach for many years do they still ban football coaches at services?
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: john e on April 23, 2012, 09:44:12 AM
Did he write another one today or just use the same one?

(http://www.ccfc.co.uk/javaImages/b8/d0/0,,10269~3002552,00.jpg)


thansk for the pic. just used it to wind up a couple of Cov friends
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: bertlambshank on April 23, 2012, 09:47:07 AM
He is right,we had a police escort at Bradford in 87.There was 3 of us.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Brend'Watkins on April 23, 2012, 09:50:38 AM
Did he write another one today or just use the same one?

(http://www.ccfc.co.uk/javaImages/b8/d0/0,,10269~3002552,00.jpg)


thansk for the pic. just used it to wind up a couple of Cov friends

Is he just showing his homework that Bad English has given him?
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on April 23, 2012, 09:56:57 AM


(http://www.ccfc.co.uk/javaImages/b8/d0/0,,10269~3002552,00.jpg)






I had no idea Louis Walsh was a Coventry supporter.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: bertlambshank on April 23, 2012, 09:58:06 AM
He forgot word after the back.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: DeKuip on April 23, 2012, 10:10:54 AM
Villa, Albion and Wolves in the top division, Small Heath in the second and Walsall and Coventry in the third would have seen the six West Midlands clubs at their rightful levels. So I was sorry to see the Wolves go down.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: CJ on April 23, 2012, 10:23:31 AM
You could but it was difficult to travel away in those days to not see the potential for trouble around you as Chico has pointed out.  Even if you chose to go by coach or in a mates car or with a mate in his Dad's car the motorway services at times could also be tricky places at times with coaches from many different clubs parking up in the same place. 

Having not been on a football coach for many years do they still ban football coaches at services?

The official Villa coaches always stop at a motorway services, and quite often coaches from other clubs turn up at the same time. Whether this applies to non-official coaches or not I'm not so sure
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Pete3206 on April 23, 2012, 10:39:56 AM
I think it was part and parcel of the 70's and 80's if you went looking for it. There were occasions when it was difficult to avoid, but it doesn't mean you had to join in. In all the years I've traveled away with Villa, I've never had so much as a scratch. The example of that Cov fan is unfortunate and I'm sure that there are many examples of being in the wrong place at the wrong time, but I honestly believe that now, as then, you can't find trouble if you don't want it.

I disagree, I found untold trouble during the 80s as a young man without ever looking for it. But it was part of going to the football, and it I still go now and take my children.

Take off the blinkers. It is what it was. No complaints here.

No blinkers here. I saw plenty of trouble in the 80's at football grounds. The trick was to go nowhere near it, if at all possible. There were hairy moments, like walking back to the train station from Highfield Road , but I opted not to wear colours away from home and kept my head down outside of the grounds. 
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Risso on April 23, 2012, 10:43:20 AM
I think it was part and parcel of the 70's and 80's if you went looking for it. There were occasions when it was difficult to avoid, but it doesn't mean you had to join in. In all the years I've traveled away with Villa, I've never had so much as a scratch. The example of that Cov fan is unfortunate and I'm sure that there are many examples of being in the wrong place at the wrong time, but I honestly believe that now, as then, you can't find trouble if you don't want it.

I disagree, I found untold trouble during the 80s as a young man without ever looking for it. But it was part of going to the football, and it I still go now and take my children.

Take off the blinkers. It is what it was. No complaints here.

No blinkers here. I saw plenty of trouble in the 80's at football grounds. The trick was to go nowhere near it, if at all possible. There were hairy moments, like walking back to the train station from Highfield Road , but I opted not to wear colours away from home and kept my head down outside of the grounds. 

That was generally the best course of action to take, but it wasn't always a guarantee.  A lad I was at school with ended up a steel plate in his skull after he was set on by a bunch of Arsenal fans/hooligans.  He hadn't even been to the match, he was just visiting a mate in North London and they jumped him walking back to the tube and gave him a kicking.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: eastie on April 23, 2012, 10:58:21 AM
Did he write another one today or just use the same one?

(http://www.ccfc.co.uk/javaImages/b8/d0/0,,10269~3002552,00.jpg)


thansk for the pic. just used it to wind up a couple of Cov friends

The guy in the pic now lives in australia , he was on the radio yesterday and has written a book about coventry city apparently.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Dave Clark Five on April 23, 2012, 12:04:04 PM
There was a park being the Cov end at the old ground with a little mound in it. They used to stand on it chanting 'chop, chop, Pork chop Hill'.
I always found the best approach was to approach the ground from the other end. You could go in a couple of pubs there with no trouble. However, the walk back to the station was dodgy.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: greenwichvilla on April 23, 2012, 02:09:18 PM
Did he write another one today or just use the same one?

(http://www.ccfc.co.uk/javaImages/b8/d0/0,,10269~3002552,00.jpg)


thansk for the pic. just used it to wind up a couple of Cov friends

The guy in the pic now lives in australia , he was on the radio yesterday and has written a book about coventry city apparently.


Maybe that's a sign he made before he moved there and it's a message to his mum
That the family will come home. As oppose to their return
To the Premier League.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: eastie on April 23, 2012, 03:19:21 PM
Richard keys just tweeted that coventry owners sisu have threatened to liquidate the club rather than go into administration- confirmed by john mutton cov council leader who own the ground.

Rent not been paid for ground and huge debts all over the place with no assets as the ground isnt theirs.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: Damo70 on April 23, 2012, 03:25:19 PM
They have spent years hating various clubs, looking for 'rivals' and someone who cares about them. We would be their number one choice followed by Blues and Leicester but provided results go right in League One at the weekend they might finally have found someone. Walsall. And to think that after all those years of making up the numbers in the top flight their 'journey' to the lower leagues began at Villa Park.
Title: Re: How big a derby is Coventry for us Villa fans?
Post by: adrenachrome on April 23, 2012, 03:25:55 PM
Richard keys just tweeted that coventry owners sisu have threatened to liquidate the club rather than go into administration- confirmed by john mutton cov council leader who own the ground.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_knh0aEdpid4/TKZyXuDQYrI/AAAAAAAAAPc/vv2XEMydWpU/s1600/dalek.jpg)
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