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Title: Last game of season
Post by: richardhubbard on April 05, 2011, 09:18:45 PM
Just realised the last game of season is against red scouse

God forbid we need to win to stay up after mr motivator against him return to anfield!
Title: Re: Last game of season
Post by: astonvillan on April 05, 2011, 10:07:59 PM
just realised? have you been living in a ditch?!

i'm holding onto the hope that liverpool will have nothing to play for and kenneth will throw the game to help out the surrender monkey..
Title: Re: Last game of season
Post by: Holtenderinthesky on April 05, 2011, 10:08:23 PM
How on Earth have you managed to get to April without knowing who we are playing on the last day? 

Isn't this the 4th or 5th time we have played the redscouse on the final day of the season?  I remember 2 at home in the 90's, one of which was the last game in front of the Holte terraces, and there was one up at their place a few years ago.  (Lost 3-1?)
Title: Re: Last game of season
Post by: Matt C on April 05, 2011, 10:10:40 PM
Last match of the Holte and that second half comeback was a pretty special game.
Title: Re: Last game of season
Post by: Blackcountry Villa on April 05, 2011, 10:11:00 PM
'Obviously i didn't want us to get relegated but i'm pleased it was a wonderful club like Liverpool that sent us down. If i had to choose anyone to relegate us it would be them.'
Title: Re: Last game of season
Post by: Des Little on April 05, 2011, 10:26:14 PM
Don't even joke about it.  I'm having night sweats thinking about needing anything from the last two games.
Title: Re: Last game of season
Post by: pauliewalnuts on April 05, 2011, 10:27:57 PM
Don't even joke about it.  I'm having night sweats thinking about needing anything from the last two games.

My mate is a season ticket holder at the Emirates, and his family account for the three or four seats either side of him. If Arsenal continue to spunk away any chance of the league and make it mathematically impossible by then, and we still need something, it's highly likely I'll have a ticket for that match.

I struggle to think of many things more stressful than sitting somewhere like that with the desperate need for us to get something, and having to keep my mouth shut and remain emotionless.
Title: Re: Last game of season
Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 05, 2011, 10:29:22 PM
If we need a result last game i'm happy with the dippers at home, they'll have fuck all to play for. My Albion mate said that apart from a 15-20 min spell after the dippers scored, WBA pissed over them.

But we'll be safe by then anyway!
Title: Re: Last game of season
Post by: holtepaul on April 05, 2011, 10:35:35 PM
Here you go, mindless optimism and all that but I seriously wouldn't be surprised if, by the time we play them, if we beat them, we could finish near to them, maybe not above, but neat.

I know it sounds poppycock, but I honestly think we will have a good end of season.

3 against Newcastle , Wigan, West Ham and Stoke, 1 against WBA, 0 Arsenal - beat Liverpool - 50 points

I think we may have turned the corner, we looked better on Saturday, lets face it, our best player since January - Walker, had a mare, hopefully he won't again. Now the club have actually realised that Young is a winger - Downing is back in form, and Dazza is starting to bang em in again - I don't even think we will be close to relegation.

Prediction

9th
Title: Re: Last game of season
Post by: Des Little on April 05, 2011, 10:37:43 PM
9th?  I'd put that cooking sherry away now if I were you old chap.  I think we'll need at least a point from the last two games.  Hope I'm wrong mind.
Title: Re: Last game of season
Post by: holtepaul on April 05, 2011, 10:40:06 PM
At this point Newcastle are 9th

I think we all 100% agree we MUST beat them on Sunday.

If we do - I think you will find we will be 2 - yes TWO points behind them !!
Title: Re: Last game of season
Post by: Chipsticks on April 05, 2011, 10:44:46 PM
Oh god the thought of Gerrard and similar scouse c***s sending us down drives me mad.

I can just picture Suarez doing a re-enactment of the Ghana game with his "handball heroics". Urgh.
Title: Re: Last game of season
Post by: DeKuip on April 05, 2011, 10:48:49 PM
I hope Dave Chance doesn't get called in to lead a sing-a-long in front of the Holte!
Title: Re: Last game of season
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on April 05, 2011, 10:57:59 PM
I think we should put out an understrength team so we can rest the players for the preseason friendly against Walsall.
Title: Re: Last game of season
Post by: Bottom Right 89 on April 05, 2011, 11:06:47 PM
Its disappointing Richard. In a relegation battle you need to know not only our remaining fixtures but all those around us at any given time. Suggestion for Liverpool match someone knock up a banner with the other fixtures on and update the scores.

Just shows how this season has turned out - I thought at one point we would be sending Liverpool down and we'd be heading for the world series with Rapid Vienna again next season.

Dave Chance sing a long - forgot about that attrocity is the free counselling still available?
Title: Re: Last game of season
Post by: KevinGage on April 05, 2011, 11:18:26 PM
I'd be a lot more confident if we were able to string a few clean sheets together and make the amount of goals we score worth more than a point.

Two at home to Fulham, two away to Bolton and Everton and yet only two points to show from that lot.

There are games where we're just going to be shite, you accept that (this season, one of those infamous 'seasons of transition' that Tottingham used to specialize in). But playing quite well and not getting much for it is actually more concerning. If good teams can play badly and still win, what do you say about teams that play well and can't?
Title: Re: Last game of season
Post by: hawkeye on April 05, 2011, 11:18:45 PM
my survival thoughts have allways been based on not needing anything from the last 2 games, I dont think this team and management have the stomach fot it. We have to get out of this now starting on Saturday,
Title: Re: Last game of season
Post by: hawkeye on April 05, 2011, 11:22:19 PM
When I played at a decent level, the bloke who played up front with me used to say, if we can score 2 goals in a game we should win
Title: Re: Last game of season
Post by: Irish villain on April 06, 2011, 01:11:04 AM
Is there any footage on the net of the home game against Liverpool during the Holte's 'last stand'?
Title: Re: Last game of season
Post by: Greg N'Ash on April 06, 2011, 01:53:34 AM
if we need points by the liverpool game then we probably deserve to go down.. On the plus side, the bindippers won't have anything to play for anyway.
Title: Re: Last game of season
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on April 06, 2011, 07:04:40 AM
I think we should put out an understrength team so we can rest the players for the preseason friendly against Walsall.

What a ridiculous statement. Shouldnt we be concentrating our resources on our defence of the Peace Cup at that time ?
Title: Re: Last game of season
Post by: *shellac* on April 06, 2011, 07:13:18 AM
I think we should put out an understrength team so we can rest the players for the preseason friendly against Walsall.
What a ridiculous statement. Shouldnt we be concentrating our resources on our defence of the Peace Cup at that time ?
Nah, club of our stature don't win trophies.  We're too good for that.
Title: Re: Last game of season
Post by: Hookeysmith on April 06, 2011, 07:41:24 AM
What ever happens this season will be interesting to see if they do a "Lap of honour" on the final day
Title: Re: Last game of season
Post by: cheltenhamlion on April 06, 2011, 08:14:14 AM
They will but there won't be many watching it
Title: Re: Last game of season
Post by: nick harper on April 06, 2011, 08:41:33 AM
Here you go, mindless optimism and all that but I seriously wouldn't be surprised if, by the time we play them, if we beat them, we could finish near to them, maybe not above, but neat.

I know it sounds poppycock, but I honestly think we will have a good end of season.

3 against Newcastle , Wigan, West Ham and Stoke, 1 against WBA, 0 Arsenal - beat Liverpool - 50 points

I think we may have turned the corner, we looked better on Saturday, lets face it, our best player since January - Walker, had a mare, hopefully he won't again. Now the club have actually realised that Young is a winger - Downing is back in form, and Dazza is starting to bang em in again - I don't even think we will be close to relegation.

Prediction

9th

So you think we'll win 5 of our last 7, having won 6 of the last 26? Just a tad over-optimistic.

If we get 8 points from our last 7 games I'll be delighted.
Title: Re: Last game of season
Post by: Zhong Yi on April 06, 2011, 09:13:21 AM
The Holte's Last Stand vs Liverpool was interesting firstly, it was a good comeback against them, but more than that there were a few 'entertaining moments'. The massive Villa flag that was paraded at Wembley for the CCCF was outed again at the start of the game only to be torn to pieces by the top left of the Holte. That admittedly was not entertaining for a few people (and caused a flurry to write in to The Evening Mail) but was something to experience having been underneath it. Not behind it! 

Then at the end of the game, efforts were made to stop the Holte getting on the pitch. By the last 15 minutes the rear of the stand had converged to the middle and lower sections. So at full time a cordon of coppers and stewards formed a horizontal line and it was working until someone in the cordon broke free and legged it halfway up the pitch. It looked like a supporter had been in the cordon disguise donning a yellow jacket and had waited for his moment. I do have a photo of that somewhere actually! But did anyone else see that?

Then afterwards Big Ron came out with the trophy (and Mic) and people were just singing Big Ron, Big Ron Atkinson (to the tune of Go West).

There were people gathering bits of the Holte End for commemorative reasons and i did wonder at the time what the bloke with an authentic Holte End bog seat was gonna do with it, moreover who he would impress with it.

Also, the issue of H&V for that day was excellent and remains the best one i have ever read.

So far...
Title: Re: Last game of season
Post by: Risso on April 06, 2011, 09:17:59 AM
I think they'll seal our relegation, then Houllier will run into the Liverpool crowd to magically disappear like at the end of Escape to Victory.
Title: Re: Last game of season
Post by: Nev on April 06, 2011, 09:23:30 AM
The Holte's Last Stand vs Liverpool was interesting firstly, it was a good comeback against them, but more than that there were a few 'entertaining moments'. The massive Villa flag that was paraded at Wembley for the CCCF was outed again at the start of the game only to be torn to pieces by the top left of the Holte. That admittedly was not entertaining for a few people (and caused a flurry to write in to The Evening Mail) but was something to experience having been underneath it. Not behind it! 

Then at the end of the game, efforts were made to stop the Holte getting on the pitch. By the last 15 minutes the rear of the stand had converged to the middle and lower sections. So at full time a cordon of coppers and stewards formed a horizontal line and it was working until someone in the cordon broke free and legged it halfway up the pitch. It looked like a supporter had been in the cordon disguise donning a yellow jacket and had waited for his moment. I do have a photo of that somewhere actually! But did anyone else see that?

Then afterwards Big Ron came out with the trophy (and Mic) and people were just singing Big Ron, Big Ron Atkinson (to the tune of Go West).

There were people gathering bits of the Holte End for commemorative reasons and i did wonder at the time what the bloke with an authentic Holte End bog seat was gonna do with it, moreover who he would impress with it.

Also, the issue of H&V for that day was excellent and remains the best one i have ever read.

So far...

Without turning this thread into "all our yesterdays", that day remains one of my finest memories. I hope this years home fixture against the same oppostion is unremarkable in every way.
Title: Re: Last game of season
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on April 06, 2011, 09:28:50 AM
The Holte's Last Stand vs Liverpool was interesting firstly, it was a good comeback against them, but more than that there were a few 'entertaining moments'. The massive Villa flag that was paraded at Wembley for the CCCF was outed again at the start of the game only to be torn to pieces by the top left of the Holte. That admittedly was not entertaining for a few people (and caused a flurry to write in to The Evening Mail) but was something to experience having been underneath it. Not behind it! 

Then at the end of the game, efforts were made to stop the Holte getting on the pitch. By the last 15 minutes the rear of the stand had converged to the middle and lower sections. So at full time a cordon of coppers and stewards formed a horizontal line and it was working until someone in the cordon broke free and legged it halfway up the pitch. It looked like a supporter had been in the cordon disguise donning a yellow jacket and had waited for his moment. I do have a photo of that somewhere actually! But did anyone else see that?

Then afterwards Big Ron came out with the trophy (and Mic) and people were just singing Big Ron, Big Ron Atkinson (to the tune of Go West).

There were people gathering bits of the Holte End for commemorative reasons and i did wonder at the time what the bloke with an authentic Holte End bog seat was gonna do with it, moreover who he would impress with it.

Also, the issue of H&V for that day was excellent and remains the best one i have ever read.

So far...

Without turning this thread into "all our yesterdays", that day remains one of my finest memories. I hope this years home fixture against the same oppostion is unremarkable in every way.

I've never forviven my sister for getting married that day, and me having to miss the Holte's last stand after having stood there for years!
Title: Re: Last game of season
Post by: Merv on April 06, 2011, 09:30:48 AM
I think they'll seal our relegation, then Houllier will run into the Liverpool crowd to magically disappear like at the end of Escape to Victory.

It's just struck me. What if this whole thing has been orchestrated by Liverpool, deliberately planting Houllier here to destruct Villa and remove us from the top six (they have taken our place in 6th after all)?

It all makes sense now... the links to O'Neill, who quits suddenly to make way for Houllier, Houllier (and G-Mac) arrive, cause mayhem... meanwhile, Liverpool move Hodgson on so he goes to a relegation rival, reinvigorates them so they finish above us, Houllier takes us down. At the end of the season, O'Neill is appointed Liverpool boss, Houllier gets a permanent place on the Anfield board and Kenny Dalglish, who masterminded the whole plot, is installed as Liverpool owner.

Fiendishly clever strategy from Liverpool.
Title: Re: Last game of season
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on April 06, 2011, 09:46:17 AM
if we need points by the liverpool game then we probably deserve to go down.. On the plus side, the bindippers won't have anything to play for anyway.
Neither did we when we sent Newcastle down, but that days perfomance was as gutless as i've ever seen from a visiting team, our current situation reminds me a bit of them in that season.
Title: Re: Last game of season
Post by: Merv on April 06, 2011, 09:52:07 AM
I'm hoping that Arsenal will effectively have nothing to play for in the penultimate game of the season either - but then, with the pressure off, that's usually when they relax and cut loose and hammer teams.

We need to be out of danger before the last two matches of the season.
Title: Re: Last game of season
Post by: WikiVilla on April 06, 2011, 10:32:40 AM
I wonder if we'll be treated to the customary end of season "lap of honour" after the match
Title: Re: Last game of season
Post by: darren woolley on April 06, 2011, 10:34:49 AM
I hope we are safe long before the Liverpool game then we can go out and beat the bindippers.
Title: Re: Last game of season
Post by: Chris Smith on April 06, 2011, 10:49:33 AM
One game at a time, eh lads.

Let's concentrate on Newcastle and worry about what this game might or might not mean nearer the time.
Title: Re: Last game of season
Post by: TaxDodger on April 06, 2011, 12:02:46 PM
What ever happens this season will be interesting to see if they do a "Lap of honour" on the final day

I'm definitely going to stay behind for this, just out of curiosity. I think we'll be safe by the last day, probably finishing about 14th. If this is the case I wonder what sort of reception Houllier will get if he is brave enough to join the players and walk around the pitch.
Title: Re: Last game of season
Post by: Olneythelonely on April 06, 2011, 12:11:09 PM

God forbid we need to win to stay up after mr motivator against him return to anfield!

Anyone have a clue what this means? I've been swapping words around and everything.
Title: Re: Last game of season
Post by: WikiVilla on April 06, 2011, 02:14:19 PM

God forbid we need to win to stay up after mr motivator against him return to anfield!

Anyone have a clue what this means? I've been swapping words around and everything.
Yea it says he was off the field receiving treatment at the time
Title: Re: Last game of season
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on April 06, 2011, 02:16:12 PM

God forbid we need to win to stay up after mr motivator against him return to anfield!

Anyone have a clue what this means? I've been swapping words around and everything.
It means Um Richard Hubbard is heap big pleased we're playing Liverpool on Um Sunday, much Firewater will be drunk.
Title: Re: Last game of season
Post by: WikiVilla on April 06, 2011, 05:47:57 PM
What ever happens this season will be interesting to see if they do a "Lap of honour" on the final day

I'm definitely going to stay behind for this, just out of curiosity. I think we'll be safe by the last day, probably finishing about 14th. If this is the case I wonder what sort of reception Houllier will get if he is brave enough to join the players and walk around the pitch.

I imagine if we have stayed up, ironically they'll get a better reception than in any of the heady days under that short irish fellow
Title: Re: Last game of season
Post by: The Moose on April 06, 2011, 06:53:35 PM
Maybe we should have a lap of honour if we stay up! The Premier League is the Holy Grail, after all...
Title: Re: Last game of season
Post by: PaulWinch again on April 06, 2011, 07:15:51 PM
I pray we are safe by then, I couldn't handle it.
Title: Re: Last game of season
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on April 06, 2011, 08:05:19 PM
By the last game you probably won't be able to move at Villa park for banners. If Roseby's had foreseen this they wouldnt have had to close down.
Title: Re: Last game of season
Post by: *shellac* on April 07, 2011, 04:42:52 AM
I think they'll seal our relegation, then Houllier will run into the Liverpool crowd to magically disappear like at the end of Escape to Victory.
He will have to, accidentally but with real intent, place himself in the away dugout before kickoff first.
Title: Re: Last game of season
Post by: cheltenhamlion on April 07, 2011, 08:43:41 AM
Perhaps he will sing like that orange twat at Hull.
Title: Re: Last game of season
Post by: Villa'Zawg on April 07, 2011, 08:59:20 AM
Edith Piaf stylee - Non, je ne regrette rien...
Title: Re: Last game of season
Post by: JUAN PABLO on April 07, 2011, 09:52:50 AM
well lets hope Blackpool are below us before the last game , there could be some massive games there . I would imagine for example , the losers of wolves/Blackburn might be down.

Aston Villa v Liverpool, 16:00
Bolton v Man City, 16:00
Everton v Chelsea, 16:00
Fulham v Arsenal, 16:00
Man Utd v Blackpool, 16:00
Newcastle v West Brom, 16:00
Stoke v Wigan, 16:00
Tottenham v Birmingham, 16:00
West Ham v Sunderland, 16:00
Wolverhampton v Blackburn, 16:00
Title: Re: Last game of season
Post by: nick harper on April 07, 2011, 09:56:58 AM
well lets hope Blackpool are below us before the last game , there could be some massive games there . I would imagine for example , the losers of wolves/Blackburn might be down.

Aston Villa v Liverpool, 16:00
Bolton v Man City, 16:00
Everton v Chelsea, 16:00
Fulham v Arsenal, 16:00
Man Utd v Blackpool, 16:00
Newcastle v West Brom, 16:00
Stoke v Wigan, 16:00
Tottenham v Birmingham, 16:00
West Ham v Sunderland, 16:00
Wolverhampton v Blackburn, 16:00


Tough games for Albion, Wigan and Birmingham aswell.
Title: Re: Last game of season
Post by: Small Rodent on April 07, 2011, 10:33:03 AM
16:00? I always thought last day games were 14:00.

I must change my travelling arrangements.
Title: Re: Last game of season
Post by: langleylions on April 07, 2011, 05:39:24 PM
if the worse comes to the worst on the last day and we are on the box please nobody start blarting and holding up stupid 'we'll be back' banners, show everybody watching that we can take it on the chin and that we are ASTON VILLA so sing your hearts out .
Title: Re: Last game of season
Post by: JJ-AV on April 07, 2011, 08:19:40 PM
I've an exam at 1pm in Nottingham on the 23rd. Ideally we'll win the next 2 and have dick all to play for come the Liverpool game so I can miss it.