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Heroes & Villains => Villa Memories => Topic started by: Michel Sibble on February 26, 2011, 05:22:55 PM
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I wonder after today's win and GH's decision not to persist using Gabby as a winger, whether he has a future in his current setup.
I have to admit, GH's system is falling nicely into place, unfortunately as it does so Gabby becomes more and more of an peripheral player. Whether that's down to attitude I don't know.
Can he be molded into a decent winger, as he started off before banging in goals, or will he be moved on in the summer, preferably for a tidy sum, to someone like Stoke?
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I knew this would crop up. He has a future, we rotate now.
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Don't worry, houllier will use his squad and gabby will get his fair share of games , the days of a set 11 players are long gone and he will rotate the squad well.
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Is threatened under the new system. More suited to playing on the wing away from home where we're looking to break on teams. At home, his technical deficiencies may render him less useful against teams who cede possession but sit deep
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Darren Bent is not eligible to play at Eastlands on Wednesday so it makes sense to give Gabby a bit more of a rest. Also, Houllier has finally given the trio of Marc, Ash and Downing a chance behind Bent to see if it works. The answer is a resounding yes, but not for the reasons we'd have thought. Whilst we were expecting that those 3 would star in a supporting role behind Bent they actually stole the show, if we can play the same way with Gabby up top on Wednesday then we will have a chance. Gabby does have a future but Houllier is trying out his options, and thank God for that. :)
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It was mentioned earlier this season that 'they' (GH and Gary Mac) weren't particularly enamored with Gabby's effort or workrate in training and didn't see what all the fuss was about.
His goals return has, it must be said, been quite poor over the last 12 months or so too. So he could well be one of those that needs to look over his shoulder if the current management remain in charge.
I think it was hoped that in time Gabby could be our Darren Bent, that is a quick forward who is by no means a naturally good allround footballer, but has the determination to improve and become effective at this level. Actually signing Darren Bent might put the kybosh on that. We'll see. A feature of Gabby's development to date (this season excepted) is he's met most of the challenges that have come his way.
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We have to get out of knowing the starting 11 every week
Those days are gone, Agbonlahor didnt need to play today
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Gabbys future is quite simple.He either shapes up and becomes the player he should become, or he sulks and moves on.
He has everything you need as a modern day striker, but for me has rested on his laurels a bit the last 12 months.Needs to be more mobile, and work harder.
By the way, i bet he starts Wens.
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Gabby has signed a new long term deal under houllier so I have no doubt he will stay and get plenty of games , nothing to worry about here .
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i will bet that Heskey plays on Wednesday,
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It was mentioned earlier this season that 'they' (GH and Gary Mac) weren't particularly enamored with Gabby's effort or workrate in training and didn't see what all the fuss was about.
Was it? He signed a new long-term deal shortly after GHou took over and he's often given him glowing praise.
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Gabby has signed a new long term deal under houllier so I have no doubt he will stay and get plenty of games , nothing to worry about here .
Most clubs would want to tie a player of that age who is anywhere near the first team to a long contract, for fear of losing them on a reduced fee.
I wouldn't take it as read that Gabby signing a lonterm contract = Gabby staying with us longterm.
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No but it's more of a hint that he rates him than he wants to make a few bob out of him.
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He'll play centre forward against Man City. Once Bent's settled we'll see more rotation between him and Gabs I reckon.
Be really gutted if Gabby left.
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He will become an important player for those occasions when Bent can't play, such as Wednesday.
Also worth pointing out Napoleon loves to rotate his squad, so I wouldn't worry; he'll get a decent amount of gametime.
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There will be rotation.
But when you spend £18 million rising to £24 million on a player, he's unlikely to be one of those who drops out, short of enforced absences such as injury/ suspension.
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There will be rotation.
But when you spend £18 million rising to £24 million on a player, he's unlikely to be one of those who drops out, short of enforced absences such as injury/ suspension.
Agreed, he wont rotate Bent so Gabby will be used as a winger,support striker wether he has the footballing brain to play that position is another story
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Gabby's been a starter for the last 3 1/2 years, one game doesn't really put his future in question.
Gabby's a key player for us. I just think Houllier has been playing him in the wrong position in recent weeks. When he's running at central-defenders he creates room for the wingers. Hopefully we'll see this against Abu Dhabi Superstars.
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Gabby was rested because he'll start upfront v Man City on wed. Simples.
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Gabby was rested because he'll start upfront v Man City on wed. Simples.
want a bet?
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I can see him being moved on in the summer, if we sign another forward or two.
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Gabby is not in the starting 11 because he's shown for the last few weeks he's not a winger. He's a fron player only and quite rightly he's not above Bent in the pecking order for the lone striker role.
I do like Gabby but if we are to move on to the next level Gabby will be a squad player at best, unless he can find his form of a few years ago.
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Gabby was rested because he'll start upfront v Man City on wed. Simples.
want a bet?
If you think you know something else then why not tell us? I've not read the whole thread.
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He pulled out of the England squad injured and he took a few whacks in the blackpool game I reckon it's just Gerard giving him some recovery time ahead of Wednesday's cup game, don't think we should read too much into it.
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Bent can't figure on Wednesday so it will be interesting to see if we keep the same formation as today with Gabby in his place. It seems the obvious choice.
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Agbonlahor is a very average natural footballer with pace. He'll never be a top striker.
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I watched on tv it kept flicking to Agbonlahor he was smiling and joking he didn't look the slightest bit bothered
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Gabby was rested because he'll start upfront v Man City on wed. Simples.
want a bet?
If you think you know something else then why not tell us? I've not read the whole thread.
me i know nothing but would wager Gh will start with Heskey where as you seem certain that he will start with Gabby, so if you want to have a bet name your price
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Our very own Shola Ameobi!
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I'm with hawkeye on this.
I think Heskey will start. If Gabby starts it will be wide.
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Being rested for Wednesday.
Bradley and Bannan to come in alongside NRC, is what I predict.
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when GH told/asked Gabby to lay off the weights and trim down a bit, Gabby said no....basically
that sealed gabby's fate imo
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There will be rotation.
But when you spend £18 million rising to £24 million on a player, he's unlikely to be one of those who drops out, short of enforced absences such as injury/ suspension.
I don't know, I can't see Randy putting any pressure on Hotlips to play Bent every game, so if he wants to rotate him, he will.
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when GH told/asked Gabby to lay off the weights and trim down a bit, Gabby said no....basically
that sealed gabby's fate imo
That was ages ago he's played quite a few times since
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He is just not good enough. I can't fault his workrate but that counts for nothing when you don't have the ability. It wouldn't surprise me if he does get shipped out.
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I think we should buy Odewingwe to play alongside Bent. Gabby can be our Solsjkaer, big clubs need rotation options. 4-4-2 is the future. England will never drop Rooney so if Bent wants international football he needs to learn how to play two up front. Bent+Odemwingwe (with Gabby as impact sub)= loads of goals.
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Bit worried for Gabby. Cannot see where Houllier is going to play him. He has not got the ability to play behind Bent, and he is shit on the wing ???
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I'd be worried about him too really. Thought he was excellent last season for us. 16 goals, superb performance in Carling Cup final too. He was a MON type player and ever since he left he hasn't been the same player. I really thought as a lone striker he had the makings of a good one while possibly becoming a 20 goal a season man.
He has had an injury plagued season but his head hasn't been right either. He hasn't tried a leg at times, Blackburn away for one. Definitely has too much weight on him and hasn't looked happy. Wonder if he has personal problems.
With Bent as number one, gabby will have some job to get that place back. He is utterly shite on the wing but away from home his pace is certainly an attribute. Thought he had an excellent first half at Blackpool. Whatever about Bent, gabby can't play with anyone up front either. A tricky one to figure out really.
Wouldn't mind the Fonz heading out on loan somewhere. Hard to know how many chances he will get considering our formation at present. I genuinely think he will score goals if given a chance
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You will all eat your words when Gabby nets a couple on Wednesday.
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Bit worried for Gabby. Cannot see where Houllier is going to play him. He has not got the ability to play behind Bent, and he is shit on the wing ???
I thought Houllier's mentioning of the bench's positive reaction to yesterday's goals was telling. Assuming Gabby was one of those reacting positively, I think and hope we'll see him start on Wednesday.
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I think we might see a lot of this type of thread until we all get used to the manager's rotation policy.
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Bit worried for Gabby. Cannot see where Houllier is going to play him. He has not got the ability to play behind Bent, and he is shit on the wing ???
I thought Houllier's mentioning of the bench's positive reaction to yesterday's goals was telling. Assuming Gabby was one of those reacting positively, I think and hope we'll see him start on Wednesday.
Gabby looked happy enough on the bench yesterday, so I don't think there's much to worry about.
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Silly thread, he's our player with a new long term contract, he will get games just not every week, he is needed to keep bent on his toes if nothing else
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Gabby didn't look happy when he picked Heskey to come off the bench instead of him yesterday.
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I think we might see a lot of this type of thread until we all get used to the manager's rotation policy.
Agreed - there seems to be a large amount of unsubstantiated stuff above articulated as ITK.
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Don't forget Gabby played imo his best football for us as a lone man in the 4-5-1 we played under MON.
IMO he's better doing his own thing than working in a partnership.
Now of course you could see this is a different 4-5-1 and we played a more possession based game but from what I've seen so far in his villa career, bent's first touch has been just as bad as Sunderland and Spurs fans said it would be.
Of course he'll make it up by scoring plenty of goals for us (just had a crap game yesterday) but I actually think the best striker at the club still to play the lone man is Gabby as I think he can hold the ball uip better.
Heskey can of course aswell but we really struggle to score when he's the lone man and of course he dosen't score much either.
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Gabby baulked up because he recognised he was knocked off the ball too easily but he still doesn't have the physique to understudy Bent, Heskey is the natural backup. I don't think Gabby will be sold but he won't get as many games and may decide to look elswhere.
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Heskey's old and injury prone plus has only one year left on his contract so I'd be amazed if we kept him and sold Gabby in the summer.
Plus the Fonz didn't even make the 18 again.
I really can't see Gabby going anywhere, he's still started the majority of games when fit under Houllier abeit out of position mostly.
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It's impossible to second guess Houllier but Emile Heskey days as an EPL player particularly in our lone centre forward formation are over. He had a few good games for us this season, Wolves stands out but he was a terrible signing by MON. If Noone offers money in the summer he should be let go on a free. Same for Beye.
Agreed Gabby at his best is a superior lone centre forward to Bent. Bent at his worst though is still a goal threat. Gabby at his worst is horrible. Bent gets in positions that Gabby would never do and his instincts are way better. It's a tough one as Bent seems
incapable of holding any ball up at present.
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I think we should buy Odewingwe to play alongside Bent. Gabby can be our Solsjkaer, big clubs need rotation options. 4-4-2 is the future. England will never drop Rooney so if Bent wants international football he needs to learn how to play two up front. Bent+Odemwingwe (with Gabby as impact sub)= loads of goals.
No offence but I don't see why villa should line up in a formation that is designed to help Bent get into the England team.
I also don't see the logic in us signing more forwards as others have mentioned. If we cannot keep gabby, hesky and the fonz happy (through rotation) then why would we be looking to sign more players. At least gabby and the fonz are products of the youth system and are likely to stay happy longer.
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I think we should buy Odewingwe to play alongside Bent. Gabby can be our Solsjkaer, big clubs need rotation options. 4-4-2 is the future. England will never drop Rooney so if Bent wants international football he needs to learn how to play two up front. Bent+Odemwingwe (with Gabby as impact sub)= loads of goals.
Odemwingie!? Are you shitting me!? We might as well just go the whole hog and "splash the cash" on Robert Earnshaw! He isn't fit to wear the shirt, not even close to being good enough!
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I for one wan't Gabby to stay i really like him GH is just using the squad unlike MON so he has had a rest for wednesday let's hope he comes out of the block scoring goals.
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IF Gabby starts up front tonight then he really needs to score.
This season he hasn't looked very dangerous at all, I'm sure he's lost a yard of pace since he decided to beef up.
Bent's movement makes Gabby look like a statue.
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just out of interest ive heard sturridges name mentioned a lot on here this week, would fans be prepared to sell gabby if it meant getting sturridge as a replacement?
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Tough one. I'd rather not but I do think Sturridge has the potential to be one of the best strikers in the league.
I'd say buy him and see how the others react and ship out whoever doesnt scrub up.
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Tough one. I'd rather not but I do think Sturridge has the potential to be one of the best strikers in the league.
I'd say buy him and see how the others react and ship out whoever doesnt scrub up.
I don't want him, seems to me to be only motivated by money and isn't half as good as he thinks he is.
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Although I agree with the sentiment, Chris, you've just described pretty much every modern professional footballer.
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Although I agree with the sentiment, Chris, you've just described pretty much every modern professional footballer.
I know, John, but some seem more extreme than others.
A player who has moved from Man City to Chelsea is going to be on even sillier money than most.
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He's only 21 and already looking a very accomplished player. He has everything in his locker to be a top player.
Yes, he has an ego too but I dont mind that in strikers.
It's when they lose confidence that the problems arise.
If Darius Vassell had a bit of that same swagger he'd be a top striker by now for instance.
In my opinion of course.
But yes, his wage demands could be an issue if they're silly and this is even if he's leaving Chelsea, which I wouldn't bet on.
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there is a lad over at villatalk who appears to have some good contacts, and he thinks that gabby is pretty much a goner.. whether thats the summer or after, he said that houllier doesnt rate him, and his new contract was to get good money for him when we do let him go...
its not the first time i have heard that from people who generally have good information...
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I'd be very suprised if that were the case.
He signed a 5 year contract didn't he? That's a very long contract for somebody not in your plans at all, even if you are trying to raise his value.
It's also very risky. He could refuse a move and run his contract down and no doubt he's on a significantly higher wage.
Like I say, not impossible as it's a new manager after all, but I find it a bit unlikely.
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just out of interest ive heard sturridges name mentioned a lot on here this week, would fans be prepared to sell gabby if it meant getting sturridge as a replacement?
Wouldn't surprise me if we let the Fonz out on a season long loan to another prem club and got Sturridge to cover that.
Would be happy with that. Bent, Sturridge, Gabby and keep Heskey for another year if no one wants him.
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How long did Gabby have left on his existing contract when he signed the new one in November?
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I can't imagine where Gabby would go if he went? Stoke? Newcastle? Everton?
Can't imagine he'd go anywhere bigger.
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Can't see the point of bringing in Sturridge to loan out the Fonz? We'd then be paying Sturridges high wage, plus probably half on Nathan's still, for no better a player, IMO. And we're supposed to be controlling wages now!
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Five year contracts are not great in terms of keeping players focussed and motivated. Although I accept he hasn't played in his best position, he is obviously not doing enough in Houllier's eyes to warrant that and probably sits behind Bent and Heskey at the moment.
Given his first touch is poor and we are playing a more patient game, I wonder if we will ever see the player O'Neill developed in a Houllier side.
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As regards Heskey I'd expect him to move on in the summer and maybe back to Leicester if they get up.
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Play Gab over Heskey tomorrow please, not much between them right now but Gab has time on his side and tends to score more over the course of a full season. Let Heskey go in the summer, Bent, Gab, Fonz and Weimann should be enough firepower and cover for one position. Play Albrighton, Ash and Downing and buy one more similar player to rotate with them, otherwise only maybe Bannan and Gabby who we could swap with them.
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there is a lad over at villatalk who appears to have some good contacts, and he thinks that gabby is pretty much a goner.. whether thats the summer or after, he said that houllier doesnt rate him, and his new contract was to get good money for him when we do let him go...
its not the first time i have heard that from people who generally have good information...
There was talk that Newcastle put a bid in on transfer deadline day, GH was keen but didn't want to leave us short going into the final stages of the season.
Whether that was actually the case and -if it was- if it's something in the summer that will be revisited, I'm not sure.
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yea, i had heard similar whispers... £20+ mil to the barcodes, and they can have him!
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the only player pardew said he bid for was nzogbia , and he had 2 bids of £10m and £12m rejected for him - cant see anyway gabby would fetch £20m to be honest .
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Can't see the point of bringing in Sturridge to loan out the Fonz? We'd then be paying Sturridges high wage, plus probably half on Nathan's still, for no better a player, IMO. And we're supposed to be controlling wages now!
Agreed, it's a non-starter.
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Sturridge isn't a number 9 IMO, I'd prefer to see him off or wide of Bent.
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If Gabby could pull out a couple of goals and we won at City it might force Houlier to play a 4-4-2 with Bent. As come saturday he would be hard pushed to drop either ......
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If Gabby could pull out a couple of goals and we won at City it might force Houlier to play a 4-4-2 with Bent. As come saturday he would be hard pushed to drop either ......
I wouldn't count on it
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Nothing will force houllier to play 442 and I wouldn't want it to- the passing and movement and fluidity of the new system is far better than the outdated 442- we will not be going down that road under houllier and I'm pleased that's the case.
It's ok chasing a game to throw the extra striker on but the new system gives us plenty of attacking options and we have exciting players who can cause chaos.
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the only player pardew said he bid for was nzogbia , and he had 2 bids of £10m and £12m rejected for him - cant see anyway gabby would fetch £20m to be honest .
me neither, but if the barcodes want him, then they will have to pay big considering they valued carroll at 35+ mil...
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Don't know if it's just me but Gabby really looked like a player who has forgotten how to do it tonight. Didn't know where to put himself, generally charged about like a big Heskey-like lump and looked more like getting red carded than doing something productive.
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Don't know if it's just me but Gabby really looked like a player who has forgotten how to do it tonight. Didn't know where to put himself, generally charged about like a big Heskey-like lump and looked more like getting red carded than doing something productive.
Or in other words ....he was shite !
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I honestly think he's finished at the Villa. I don't think Houllier rates him as his pace is his only real asset and we don't play that kind of game any more. Tonight, he just seemed to be frustrated and angry.
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He's never gone a be a 20 goal a season striker, it doesnt look like he's going to be a credible winger. What will he be? Judging on tonights display I'd say a bloody liability.
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Tonight was the last straw with Gabby.
File under Hendrie, Vassell, Moore(s).
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Tonight was the last straw with Gabby.
File under Hendrie, Vassell, Moore(s).
Personally I had filed him there about three years ago but kept getting told I was talking bollocks!
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He's never gone a be a 20 goal a season striker, it doesnt look like he's going to be a credible winger. What will he be? Judging on tonights display I'd say a bloody liability.
16 goals last season though meant he wasnt too far off. Didnt take penalties either. Seems to have completely lost it though which isnt all Houllier fault.
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Never had that footballing brain, and it showed painfully.
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I reckon he'll be a Newcastle player come next season.
And I'll be sad about that, although it may be for the best all round.
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He's never gone a be a 20 goal a season striker, it doesnt look like he's going to be a credible winger. What will he be? Judging on tonights display I'd say a bloody liability.
16 goals last season though meant he wasnt too far off. Didnt take penalties either. Seems to have completely lost it though which isnt all Houllier fault.
That's because he ain't a winger... That is GH's fault...
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He's never gone a be a 20 goal a season striker, it doesnt look like he's going to be a credible winger. What will he be? Judging on tonights display I'd say a bloody liability.
16 goals last season though meant he wasnt too far off. Didnt take penalties either. Seems to have completely lost it though which isnt all Houllier fault.
Playing him as a striker might help him though, and that is the fault of GH. You can't expect the best of any player if he's playing out of position, as we used to find out under MON.
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He is absolutely shit, just like i've always said. Everyone thought i was mad, Villa and non-Villa fans, when i used to say so but it's plain for everyone to see now. He is one of the most limited footballers i have ever seen, no skill, no technique and no football brain.
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Nothing will force houllier to play 442 and I wouldn't want it to- the passing and movement and fluidity of the new system is far better than the outdated 442- we will not be going down that road under houllier and I'm pleased that's the case.
It's ok chasing a game to throw the extra striker on but the new system gives us plenty of attacking options and we have exciting players who can cause chaos.
We can't defend at all though and rarely seem to get a 2 goal cushion. We've been improved of late but I just haven't got the faith in Houllier in terms of future prospects. Aside from resting alot of players tonight his tactics were atrocious. Must have been one of the most comfortable games Man City will play all season.
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Sorry but Gabby is a good - very good player.
He was progressing nicely until GH put out to pasture on the wing.
He plays in the MIDDLE to score goals.
I hope this makes sense.
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yes he does
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Very limited footballer
Get rid if the right price comes along
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Sorry but Gabby is a good - very good player.
He was progressing nicely until GH put out to pasture on the wing.
He plays in the MIDDLE to score goals.
I hope this makes sense.
Just wondering, how many times has Gabby played wide this season?
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If you play with 3 up front it is generally with a (fairly) central striker (presumably Bent) and two playing off him in wide areas with freedom to roam. Nani is an example of this.
To do this you need to have a football brain and need to work at your movement and positioning. Unfortunately I feel Gabby fails in these areas and does not appear to have the appetite nowadays to try and improve his skills to the level that is required for a team hoping to challenge for honours.
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gabby's future?
Possibly outside the job centre in Erdington
Trys hard, loves the Club but limited as a footballer. Hasn't got the brains to be a great player and if he cant work out what runs he needs to make by now then he never will
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Heskey was utterly crap as the central striker last night so hope that puts to bed this myth that seems to be growing that heskey is much more effective as a central striker than Gabby is.
If Bent isn't playing, Gabby should always be that out and out striker.
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16 Goals last season, he's a CF not a winger FFS !!
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So drop Bent for Gabby?
Gabby needs to move off the ball better, and anticipate.Balotellis goal last night, could you see Gabby score a oal like that.In the right wing position, anticipating the ball off Toure, moving before the pass is made, and finding space, and then the finish as well.
Bent is better than Gabby, and unless he develos into a better inside foward, he will be nothing more than a sub.
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O Neill used Gabby's strengths. Those are his physical attributes, and namely his speed. Trouble is with Houlliers system, it requires all the players to be able to think quick, control and pass. Gabby's just not that sort of player. To make best use of him, to some extent you have to take the football out of the equation. Knock it down the channels and let him chase it. Hit teams quick on the counter whilst they're high lined and let him run beyond the last man.
We pass the ball around quite well with Houlliers system, without being particularly dangerous sadly. Gabby looks like a fish out of water involved in passing and moving. He was very sloppy last night indeed.
Saying that, Ash Young is no where near good enough to play that 2nd striker role. He could be a flat track bully quite comfortably, but he lacks the brain and cuteness, as well as vision, to play that Bergkamp role. Despite this, everyone outside our club thinks we're absolutely lost without Ash, despite a rather average season from him.
But yes, Houllier is just not getting the best out of his players. Gabby should be backing up Bent. We can't play both of them, because Bent as a footballer is also limited and that would mean reverting to O Neill's style (which lets be brutally honest, gets better results than Ged's). He's most certainly not nearly good enough to play as a wide man in this league. He's not as quick as he was either and doesn't have the skill to take players on.
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Gabby has said he is considering retiring at the end of his contract. You have to laugh.
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I thought he'd retired years ago.
/baddumtish
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Lost his hungry years ago....probably around the time this thread started which was 7 years and two months ago!
Has he even scored 20 goals in that period?
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Weird flashback seeing the posts on this thread.
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Tonight was the last straw with Gabby.
File under Hendrie, Vassell, Moore(s).
Personally I had filed him there about three years ago but kept getting told I was talking bollocks!
Worth a quote this.
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Gabbys future is quite simple.He either shapes up and becomes the player he should become, or he sulks and moves on.
Over 7 years on & he's still here stealing a living .
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Lost his hungry years ago....probably around the time this thread started which was 7 years and two months ago!
Has he even scored 20 goals in that period?
Gabby’s never lost his hunger
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https://tbrfootball.com/paul-lambert-consider-gabriel-agbonlahor-reunion-stoke-city/
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Pure speculation from shit rag
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Could mentor Berahino I guess.....
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https://tbrfootball.com/paul-lambert-consider-gabriel-agbonlahor-reunion-stoke-city/
"What Agbonlahor needs is to work with a former boss who got some of the best out of him. Paul Lambert had such an impact at Aston Villa. Agbonlahor pushed for an England recall in 2013 under the guidance of the Scottish manager. Lambert had him leaner and smarter in attack and generally it was a good working relationship."
He scored 19 goals in the two and a half years under Lambert. Hardly prolific.
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I've just discovered that if I try to type "fanny", it autocorrects to "Gabby".
My phone knows the score.
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Just a thought does anyone think he will be on the bench on Saturday for a final appearance ?
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I fucking hope not. Useless, lazy, piss taking prick.
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I fucking hope not. Useless, lazy, piss taking prick.
Agreed.
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I fucking hope not. Useless, lazy, piss taking prick.
He only asked...
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After all Gabby's time at the club, I do think Bruce should stick him on for his swan song.
And everybody can pelt the c*** with mouldy bread.
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After all Gabby's time at the club, I do think Bruce should stick him on for his swan song.
And everybody can melt the c*** with mouldy bread.
How would that work?!
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Apparently, Flabby missed the Villa awards night to a 'prior engagement'.
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Apparently, Flabby missed the Villa awards night to a 'prior engagement'.
I didn't know Greggs was open that late.
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I fucking hope not. Useless, lazy, piss taking prick.
That's a NO then.
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Apparently, Flabby missed the Villa awards night to a 'prior engagement'.
Perhaps he's annoyed that Six Figures missed out on the kit contract.
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After all Gabby's time at the club, I do think Bruce should stick him on for his swan song.
And everybody can mpelt the c*** with mouldy bread.
How would that work?!
Bastarding keyboard!
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Apparently, Flabby missed the Villa awards night to a 'prior engagement'.
Perhaps he's annoyed that Six Figures missed out on the kit contract.
It's OK, their sister brand has the Coventry contract. Six fingers.
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great video,
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Wouldn't surprise me if he was on the bench tomorrow for a last appearence.
He's never got that much stick at VP compared to what he gets online.
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He's spoiled what should have amounted to a better career and much better Villa legacy. However tomorrow he's collecting some form of recognition on the pitch for his overall career with us and it isn't a day to boo him or have a negative view. That video shows that he did contribute to some really good times. Give him a good send off and wish him luck. I'm glad it will be over soon.
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He's spoiled what should have amounted to a better career and much better Villa legacy. However tomorrow he's collecting some form of recognition on the pitch for his overall career with us and it isn't a day to boo him or have a negative view. That video shows that he did contribute to some really good times. Give him a good send off and wish him luck. I'm glad it will be over soon.
Entirely my thoughts too.
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Great Video - supported Villa for 30 years now home and away and I will always be thankful to Mr Agbonlahor for some amazing memories.
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When's his testimonial?
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Wouldn't surprise me if he was on the bench tomorrow for a last appearence.
He's never got that much stick at VP compared to what he gets online.
Thats because the keyboard warriors/weasels wouldn't come out with that shite at the ground.
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Wouldn't surprise me if he was on the bench tomorrow for a last appearence.
He's never got that much stick at VP compared to what he gets online.
Thats because the keyboard warriors/weasels wouldn't come out with that shite at the ground.
Correct James.
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He's spoiled what should have amounted to a better career and much better Villa legacy. However tomorrow he's collecting some form of recognition on the pitch for his overall career with us and it isn't a day to boo him or have a negative view. That video shows that he did contribute to some really good times. Give him a good send off and wish him luck. I'm glad it will be over soon.
Entirely my thoughts too.
Same. When he was good, he was superb. He let himself down at times, but tomorrow is all about thanking the bloke and saying goodbye.
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That's a cracking video piece - he did score some super goals.
What a shame that the last 5 years have been so wasted.
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Whatever he's done in the past he has stolen a wage over the past few years. So I am not giving much of a fuck about his award.
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He's spoiled what should have amounted to a better career and much better Villa legacy. However tomorrow he's collecting some form of recognition on the pitch for his overall career with us and it isn't a day to boo him or have a negative view. That video shows that he did contribute to some really good times. Give him a good send off and wish him luck. I'm glad it will be over soon.
Entirely my thoughts too.
Same. When he was good, he was superb. He let himself down at times, but tomorrow is all about thanking the bloke and saying goodbye.
This.
Yes, he's let himself down football wise, but, the work he does for Acorns is fantastic.
He touches on it in the video, around 17 mins, but I think he actually understates what he does.
I think he will be a wonderful ambassador for the club
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His wages are irrelevant tbf, others have earnt more with less input.
Even then he's brought more joy on the pitch than misery off.
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As a youngster he was the raw one in comparison with the Moore’s who were the ones destined for the top...he did well & leaves memories in his wake.
Once he’d made it he really should have been the first Villa player to 100 Premier goals, unfortunately he tossed it away, he’ll call it mistakes, i’d call it downright laziness & arrogance.
Be a pleasure to say goodbye
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Be a pleasure to say thanks Gabriel...thanks for those goals at the sty.
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Cheers Gabby! Now off you fuck!
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Be a pleasure to say thanks Gabriel...thanks for those goals at the sty.
Welcome to the forum! Who's your favourite player?
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Cheers Gabriel and now good luck with everything.
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Cheers Gabriel and now good luck with everything.
Thank you for visiting H&V Mrs Agbonlahor!
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That video shows what his legacy as a Villa player should have been, 4 or 5 years of taking the piss have tainted that. As for him not getting as much grief at VP, as he's rarely been seen on the pitch the last few years he's managed to avoid it.
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Yes I’ve been found out my 50k a week boredom has resulted in me in 14 years to finally join a fanzine... and that’s why a certain demographic section try to alienate me..:will think of you all when I’m on my Panamanian yacht
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Mrs Agbonlahor earns 50K a week?
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Wouldn't surprise me if he was on the bench tomorrow for a last appearence.
He's never got that much stick at VP compared to what he gets online.
Thats because the keyboard warriors/weasels wouldn't come out with that shite at the ground.
Someone who speaks the truth
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Wouldn't surprise me if he was on the bench tomorrow for a last appearence.
He's never got that much stick at VP compared to what he gets online.
Thats because the keyboard warriors/weasels wouldn't come out with that shite at the ground.
Someone who speaks the truth
I have a feeling we will hear a lot from you over the next 48hrs, then not so much.
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The fact that you think I’m someone I’m not says more about you than it does myself...
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The fact that you think I’m someone I’m not says more about you than it does myself...
Ha. New poster.
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Ha yes after 14 years service and millions of £ later I’ve suddenly decided to justify my career with Us....have a word with yourself.
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Pack it in, everybody.
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Ha yes after 14 years service and millions of £ later I’ve suddenly decided to justify my career with Us....have a word with yourself.
Oh sorry, it’s you Gabby.
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Sorry Dave, posted after.
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I’ve packed it in Dave, will confirm it Saturday. Another new poster now quitting due to passive aggressive “regulars”, shame some real great posters on here.
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Ah! New poster with a grievance! Quick!
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One of many parasites that have been responsible for where we are today. Three good seasons over eight years ago do not make a legend.
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Don't worry, houllier will use his squad and gabby will get his fair share of games , the days of a set 11 players are long gone and he will rotate the squad well.
What has happened to you lately, eAstie?
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Whatever he's done in the past he has stolen a wage over the past few years. So I am not giving much of a fuck about his award.
Good article, Bad.
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Wouldn't surprise me if he was on the bench tomorrow for a last appearence.
He's never got that much stick at VP compared to what he gets online.
Thats because the keyboard warriors/weasels wouldn't come out with that shite at the ground.
I think you will find I do and have argued plenty with those who sit around me and forgive everything he has got up to because of a couple of goals against Small Heath.
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That goal in 2007 at the Sty. What a goal. The away end erupting like that is just immense.
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One of many parasites that have been responsible for where we are today. Three good seasons over eight years ago do not make a legend.
Yep , legends score goals by the bucket load throughout the length of their careers not fail to get out of double figures over 14/15 years
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That goal in 2007 at the Sty. What a goal. The away end erupting like that is just immense.
Just after clearing Ridgwells header off the line. Was like scoring two in a minute
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That goal in 2007 at the Sty. What a goal. The away end erupting like that is just immense.
I often watch that goal and just stare at the crowd erupting. It’s brilliant.
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I celebrated Agbonlahors goals and achievements as they happened and for years after. Sadly however I stopped being a fan of his in our relegation season. He is proof that a player can outstay his time at a club. He should have got out maybe a year or two before our relegation to ensure some legendary status. Instead along with Richards (as our current culpable players) he symbolises the shambles that Aston Villa became. I won't be applauding, cheering or singing his name today, my choice. Instead I will be thinking of the great Villa strikers, who didn't get rewarded on the pitch in front of a full house, when perhaps they were more deserving.
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Players who impress most and work hard can reasonably expect the squad to be selected on merit. We shouldn't be seeing the fat simpleton this afternoon.
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I'll applaud him getting his award because what's done is done and i'll cheer if he comes on and scores. Truth is though, this day should have happened a couple of seasons ago.
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Gabby's career sums up the plight of the club in the past few years, lots of potential but ultimately very little reward in return and a massive disappointment. As for receiving an award, he's had one every year in the form of a contract, doesn't deserve a plaque today or even a send off.
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Looking at Gabby I can see both sides.
It's just that these days I have to take a step either way to do it.
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:D
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I'll applaud him getting his award because what's done is done and i'll cheer if he comes on and scores. Truth is though, this day should have happened a couple of seasons ago.
Agree with every word of this. It’s probably a couple of years overdue.
All negatives aside he’s scored some killer goals for us.
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Sorry he can fuck off. A lazy fucking twat dining out on goals long since scored. Contributed in no small part to the club's decline in recent years.
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Looking at Gabby I can see both sides.
It's just that these days I have to take a step either way to do it.
very good , made me properly chuckle
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If he was the player who he could and should have been, he'd be having his farewell this afternoon wearing the kit and be part of a team celebrating the Football League Championship.
No, scrub that. If he was the player he could and should have been, we wouldn't be in the Football League.
A totem of our decline and fall: good riddance.
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There is no way he should be getting any award..
He should be slipping quietly away and allowing time to erase the bad and remember the good.
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Regards turning up to see this bloke’s farewell appearance I refer to a friend of mine’s habitual insistence that he go to the airport to wave of his in-laws when they were going on holiday.
‘Why do you always do that Dad?’ his son would ask.
‘Just to make sure they’ve gone lad’ he would reply.
To this end I expect a full house and queues around the block for Gabby’s last showing.
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If he was the player who he could and should have been, he'd be having his farewell this afternoon wearing the kit and be part of a team celebrating the Football League Championship.
No, scrub that. If he was the player he could and should have been, we wouldn't be in the Football League.
A totem of our decline and fall: good riddance.
Indeed - if we him again, to quote Blackadder, it'll be 20bn years too soon. I suspect a Sky appearance the next time we play the Knuckledraggers.
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It's a good day for the club.
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It's a good day for the club.
Yes like when the Guildford 4 were released, it was a great day for British Justice. It was just too many fucking years too late.
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No sentiment. The Manager has a job to do in getting things right for the Play-offs. Agbonlahor has had his day. Even if Villa are winning easily against Derby this afternoon, Keinan Davis deserves his chance and, for me, would be on the bench ahead of flabby. He got paid handsomely to do a job and failed to do it. Whilst none of us can blame Gabby Agbonlahor (and that other waster Richards) for all of the demise of the club and the loss of our Premier Division status, he is a symbol of the misery that we have faced. He can join in with the lap of appreciation but I won't be impressed if he is on the bench or in the side.
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Not for nothing does my son refer to this site as Hindsight & Vitriol
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Not for nothing does my son refer to this site as Hindsight & Vitriol
If he'd read what was posted when Gabby was award *that* four year contract, then he'd perhaps know it as Hysteria & Vexatious. However, much of what was said has come to pass. No hindsight involved.
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Not for nothing does my son refer to this site as Hindsight & Vitriol
No one forces you to post here.
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Not for nothing does my son refer to this site as Hindsight & Vitriol
Edgy.
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Not for nothing does my son refer to this site as Hindsight & Vitriol
And what is this something?
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Not for nothing does my son refer to this site as Hindsight & Vitriol
No one forces you to post here.
Exactly. Who has so much time on their hands they can afford to waste it whinging about an internet message board?!
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I gave him a clap at the end when he made his short speech.
I'm aware of hour sour it's turned, but is over now and if I am to dwell on his time, I'd rather dwell on the positive.
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Not for nothing does my son refer to this site as Hindsight & Vitriol
No one forces you to post here.
Exactly. Who has so much time on their hands they can afford to waste it whinging about an internet message board?!
Agbonlahor?
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I was at Goodison for his debut and remember thinking this lad could be something special. Ultimately he’ll look back at his career wondering ‘what if’, but I thank him for the memories and wish him well.
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Did he have a better career than Vassell?
What do we reckon to that?
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I saw him at Wembley, playing for England. The pinnacle of his career. Sadly, it was all downhill after that, certainly after MON left the club.
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Did he have a better career than Vassell?
What do we reckon to that?
Nope, comparing records would be interesting.
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I was out working in the garden this afternoon and found myself thinking about Agbonlahor. What I found somewhat disconcerting was, for a short time I actually found myself feeling sorry for him, a complete wasted opportunity to become one of the all-time Villa heroes. I then came back to reality and thought, fuck him!
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Goodbye Gabby. Thanks for the first few years. Fuck off for the last few years.....
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I saw him at Wembley, playing for England. The pinnacle of his career. Sadly, it was all downhill after that, certainly after MON left the club.
He was never that bothered about England. Capello thought he was a player and kept calling him up but he must've pulled out of 3 or 4 squads. Also missed the under 21 tournament in 2007 I think.
Sadly that indifference transfered to his club career shortly afterwards.
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I was out working in the garden this afternoon and found myself thinking about Agbonlahor. What I found somewhat disconcerting was, for a short time I actually found myself feeling sorry for him, a complete wasted opportunity to become one of the all-time Villa heroes. I then came back to reality and thought, fuck him!
Injuries and playing with next to no service for so long have darkened his record.
I'll wish him well.
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Did we ever receive any interest in him during his prime ? You think of all the players he played with during his pomp, they all moved on and he hung around.
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People have short memories, he got a warm reception, but didn't say a word. He looked very chunky too.
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Being shit, fat and disinterested have darkened his record. Plenty of other strikers managed to score for us it's only him that seems to have had no service.
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Did we ever receive any interest in him during his prime ? You think of all the players he played with during his pomp, they all moved on and he hung around.
Rumours of Arsenal and Spurs around 2008.
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talking of wasted money in recent years . When does Richards contract finish?
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Thanks for that SHQ. Tottenham interest does ring a bell, scary to think it's 10 years ago.
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talking of wasted money in recent years . When does Richards contract finish?
Next summer.
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I have a shirt with Gabby's name on the back. That is how much I rated him in his prime. What has made me see him in a very different light was his complete moral disintegration when we were fighting for survival in the Premiership. Of all our squad he should have been the one to heal the dressing room wounds, to encourage young players, to give the likes of N'Zogbia and Richards a kick up the arse and most of all to reach out the hand of friendship to our continental players. He did none of those things. To quote a line from Godfather 2 about Fredo he was banging cocktail waitresses two at a time. If his fall from grace had only been on the pitch I would forgive him all day long but his failure was moral and personal.
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People have short memories, he got a warm reception, but didn't say a word. He looked very chunky too.
He was still chewing a BigMac
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Hasn't scored double figures in 9 seasons and hasn't done sod all in 8. On that basis the likes of Heskey and Harewood should have got the same send-off, while Bent, Angel and Carew should have got a ticker-tape parade and a stand named after them.
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And the likes of Withe, Shaw, Saunders had the freedom of the city. I cannot feel sorry for a man who has stolen a living from doing something he’s supposed to love. Equally, I do not forgive those at the club who allowed him to become, well, this. Fair play to Steve Bruce for standing firm. See you round Gabby, keep up the charity work. A redeeming feature.
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I thought the award presentation was low-key, very muted. He seemed to want to get off the pitch as soon as he could. Never ventured towards the Holte End...... he looked almost embarrassed.
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It’s been that long since he was on a football pitch that he’d probably forgotten where was what.
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He made a positive contribution to the club for about 6 years. It went downhill since and he'll no doubt have some regrets, but he was really decent for a while.
He clearly didn't have that attitude to push himself - rejecting England a few times and phoning it in when the club wasn't doing well. But for the good times I'll always be thankful.
All the best Gabby. I wonder where he'll go though? I know his house is up for sale but his future earning potential is going to be a pittance of what he was on. I can't see him getting a top half Championship club...
Sunderland maybe?
Burton?
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One down, and good riddance in my opinion, but how many of the following are going to follow him, or will the club hand out new contracts like confetti?
Terry, Bunn, Hutton, Samba, Sarkic, Watkins, Abdo, Blackett-Taylor, Borg, Prosser, Pastorek, Clarke, Clark, Finnerty, Coates, Knibbs, Cox, Hall, Idem, Johansson, Stretch, Boucher, Bazeley-Graham, Williams, Rowe.
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He made a positive contribution to the club for about 6 years. It went downhill since and he'll no doubt have some regrets, but he was really decent for a while.
He clearly didn't have that attitude to push himself - rejecting England a few times and phoning it in when the club wasn't doing well. But for the good times I'll always be thankful.
All the best Gabby. I wonder where he'll go though? I know his house is up for sale but his future earning potential is going to be a pittance of what he was on. I can't see him getting a top half Championship club...
Sunderland maybe?
Burton?
Stoke
i just saw his video on AVTV about his time at Villa. quite enjoyed it and the good times he had, but the brainwashed comments on there about him being our most loyal player ever and thanks for staying with us when we went down . wtf ... he was on 60k a week for eating fast food ffs . and give him a contact and future manager here .. haa haa fecking haa
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Stoke aren't gonna sign him. He's nowhere near good enough for them.
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Said before, got Walsall written all over him. as i feel he's unlikely to want to stray too far from his social life. A season there, then off to the middle/far east or the likes for one last pay-day when he realises £2000 a week won't keep him in the manner he's accustomed to.
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I think we've got to also look at whoever offered him that last contract. I expect even Gabby was shocked to be offered it.
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There has been talk of retirement - he's definitely tried his best to regain fitness under Bruce but his body has failed him and that has been unfortunate. He's done great work with Acorn by all accounts and struck-up a seemingly genuine relationship with Mo, that young Villa fan with a terminal illness.
His coasting for too many years before that, culminating in his shisha-smoking and entertaining females in a London hotel room the day of our relegation (having been papped in Dubai, was it(?), a few weeks before) was unforgivable though. The most painful day for the club in 30 years and he was laughing his head off.
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What has made me see him in a very different light was his complete moral disintegration when we were fighting for survival in the Premiership. Of all our squad he should have been the one to heal the dressing room wounds, to encourage young players, to give the likes of N'Zogbia and Richards a kick up the arse and most of all to reach out the hand of friendship to our continental players. He did none of those things.
Precisely. When we needed his input the most he went missing from his "childhood club" (as Stan Petrov has described it on Twitter this weekend), and indulged in social media spats (one for the haters was how he described his single goal v Norwich in the relegation season).
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Given the 'desire' he's shown to get back in to the Villa side I can't see him being arsed to train at the likes of Walsall or Burton.
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I've just watched the video.
Fantastic memories of some of my most joyous recent times watching the Villa, moments of pure ecstasy, feelings that I never wanted to end, and there should, could, have been many more.
I also had to struggle with a strong urge to put my size 12 through the telly.
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MLS club may pick him up.
This is a league where Bradley Wright Phillips scores 20 a season.
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I have had a crafty bet on him going to MK Dons. Flash place. Plenty of Rancho Grandes for the tasteless rich to install their snooker tables and juke boxes. Halfway on the M1 and the Euston line to sample the fleshpots of Star City and Crockford's on a nightly basis.
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I'm not sure anyone will want him. A forward that's rarely fit and rarely scores on the odd occasion he is. If I were a betting man my money would go on him retiring, possibly with him saying he couldn't bring himself to play for anyone else to cover up that no one of note wanted him.
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Respect PWS but there are a lot of fools out there with a lot of money. Somebody will be mad enough to employ him. IMO.
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He's 32 later this year, as stupid as some clubs are i'm not sure anyone in top 2 divisions is that stupid and that anyone below that would risk so much of their budget in him.
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Some daft club will offer him £5-£10k a week. If i was his agent that’s what I’d be telling him.
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I had no idea there would be a presentation for Gabby until my Bruv told me on the way to the game at which I laughed in a WTF kind of way. Legend, maybe, only if you view him with claret and blue spectacles, one lens filtered through "scored some important goals against Small Heath" the other filtered through "he's one of our own". I don't posess such mindbending goggles , so, legend my arse. At best a 1 goal in 4 1 good game in 7 or 8 striker even in a side doing well. At worst a lazy good for nothing waster. Needless to say I didn't go out of my way to witness the presentation, just glad I'll never see him in a Villa shirt again.
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The presentation was suitably low key and Gabby didn’t milk the occasion. He gained back a little respect from me yesterday
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If you knew that all the twats were already on the boards of the football clubs you could say everybody knows what a waste of money he would be. However there are always people with zillions more money than sense buying their way into "soccer". (see file Stadium, Wembley, purchase of). Gabby would be a marquee signing for some new generation Randy Lerner.
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Saw this and thought “I hope not”
Rushian Hepburn-Murphy: “Legend. Role model.”
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I've just watched the video.
Fantastic memories of some of my most joyous recent times watching the Villa, moments of pure ecstasy, feelings that I never wanted to end, and there should, could, have been many more.
Yup, some fantastic times..
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I genuinely couldn't give a toss about what he does next. Just as long as its nowt to do with our club.
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Well done Villa Park for that reception.
Truth was cascaded.
Good Luck Gabs!
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Well done Villa Park for that reception.
Truth was cascaded.
Good Luck Gabs!
Eh?
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Well done Villa Park for that reception.
Truth was cascaded.
Good Luck Gabs!
Eh?
Shower of shite?
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You watch some of those goals again and you think wow what a player......then you remember the last 5 or 6 years and what a waste and he only has himself to blame. Could and should have been a legend, but nowhere near a Brian Little, Gordon Cowans, Mellberg, McGrath etc - sadly, and I thank him for some happy memories, he threw it away.
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His lack of professionalism is respect of his weight gain and lack of fitness will diminish his potential income over the next few years to the tune of a few £million I would guess - he appears to have wasted what most on here would have dreamed of as a kid
C`est la vie
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Vassell’s career stats ate very similar to gabby’s, but a better England record.
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Vassell’s career stats ate very similar to gabby’s, but a better England record.
Darius has a career in surgery to fall back on.
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Truth was cascaded.
What on earth does that mean?
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Are we honouring Ross McCormack before the next home game? Or Micah?
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Yes, with a cascade of truth.
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Cascade. It's the new kid on the block in US business speak. It was 'space' for a while. In our place, there's a new initiative called the Strategy Cascade. More shite.
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Stoke aren't gonna sign him. He's nowhere near good enough for them.
He is for Paul Lambert
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"Strategy Cascade" was African Car Reverser's second album.
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"Strategy Cascade" was African Car Reverser's second album.
Disappointing second album according to the reviews.
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"Strategy Cascade" was African Car Reverser's second album.
Disappointing second album according to the reviews.
Their sound went too heavy.
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"Strategy Cascade" was African Car Reverser's second album.
Disappointing second album according to the reviews.
Their sound went too heavy.
Mitigated by the melodica lead instrumental to be fair.
Any truth in the Edvard and the Pantones collaboration though?
As for Gabby, unless he fancies a spell in the Turkish 3rd division with Batman Petrolspor, maybe we could sort him out a bit of roadying with ACR...
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"Strategy Cascade" was African Car Reverser's second album.
Disappointing second album according to the reviews.
Their sound went too heavy.
Mitigated by the melodica lead instrumental to be fair.
Any truth in the Edvard and the Pantones collaboration though?
As for Gabby, unless he fancies a spell in the Turkish 3rd division with Batman Petrolspor, maybe we could sort him out a bit of roadying with ACR...
I don't know what's more bizarre - that Batman Petrolspor really exist, or that you know that Batman Petrolspor really exist...
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Batman Petrolspor collaborated on the remix project with African Car Reverser.
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Batman Petrolspor collaborated on the remix project with African Car Reverser.
Mr Jameson. Stop fucking with my mind.
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Batman Petrolspor collaborated on the remix project with African Car Reverser.
Stop fucking with my mind.
Track two, remixed by Going To Rain My Fists Down On You featuring Andrew Greaves.
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Well done Villa Park for that reception.
Truth was cascaded.
Good Luck Gabs!
What does that even mean?
I did hear a whisper he was looking to go to the States. There or China would be his best chance of a last big payday. It would also debunk the silly notion from the other day that he couldn't do a season an hour down the road at Reading because he couldn't face being away from his kids.
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Well done Villa Park for that reception.
Truth was cascaded.
Good Luck Gabs!
What does that even mean?
I did hear a whisper he was looking to go to the States. There or China would be his best chance of a last big payday. It would also debunk the silly notion from the other day that he couldn't do a season an hour down the road at Reading because he couldn't face being away from his kids.
If he comes to Reading I'm opening a pie shop, I'll be fucking minted.
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Walsall or Coventry.
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Walsall or Coventry.
MacDonalds or Burger King??? ;D ;D ;D
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Subway surely
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If he has any sense he'll be on the phone to SVC for career advice. Two pea's in a pod them two,
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If he can get a deal I can definitely see him going to the US
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African Car Reverser is more interesting than Gabby. For a start I hope one of them is seen again at Villa Park.
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If he has any sense he'll be on the phone to SVC for career advice. Two pea's in a pod them two,
Yeah, one had professionally diagnosed clinical depression whereas the other just pissed it against the wall due to lifestyle choices. Almost identical.
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If he has any sense he'll be on the phone to SVC for career advice. Two pea's in a pod them two,
Yeah, one had professionally diagnosed clinical depression whereas the other just pissed it against the wall due to lifestyle choices. Almost identical.
Lots of people have clinical depression. Surprisingly, the symptoms don't include smacking up women and acting a dick.
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Are we honouring Ross McCormack before the next home game? Or Micah?
Participation Medals will be awarded.
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If he has any sense he'll be on the phone to SVC for career advice. Two pea's in a pod them two,
Yeah, one had professionally diagnosed clinical depression whereas the other just pissed it against the wall due to lifestyle choices. Almost identical.
Lots of people have clinical depression. Surprisingly, the symptoms don't include smacking up women and acting a dick.
Surprisingly, the illness manifests itself in different ways depending on the person. Either way, Gabby does not have clinical depression. He also actually hasn't 'gone around smacking up women'. So either way, your point that they are 'two peas in a pod' is wrong. SVC took a career break because of a medically diagnosed condition. Gabby took a career break because he was out of shape.
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If he has any sense he'll be on the phone to SVC for career advice. Two pea's in a pod them two,
Yeah, one had professionally diagnosed clinical depression whereas the other just pissed it against the wall due to lifestyle choices. Almost identical.
Lots of people have clinical depression. Surprisingly, the symptoms don't include smacking up women and acting a dick.
Surprisingly, the illness manifests itself in different ways depending on the person. Either way, Gabby does not have clinical depression. He also actually hasn't 'gone around smacking up women'. So either way, your point that they are 'two peas in a pod' is wrong. SVC took a career break because of a medically diagnosed condition. Gabby took a career break because he was out of shape.
Well as someone who has suffered clinical depression and who knows many others who have, i can assure you SVC's symptoms are a rarity and most also cope without disappearing to a clinic for 3 months or quitting work. Depression can affect anyone, nice people, horrible people, just like a cold or cancer and while it may be possible his depression made his behaviour worse, I think its more likely he was just a dick who happened to have depression, rather than someone acting a dick because of depression
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If he has any sense he'll be on the phone to SVC for career advice. Two pea's in a pod them two,
Yeah, one had professionally diagnosed clinical depression whereas the other just pissed it against the wall due to lifestyle choices. Almost identical.
Lots of people have clinical depression. Surprisingly, the symptoms don't include smacking up women and acting a dick.
Surprisingly, the illness manifests itself in different ways depending on the person. Either way, Gabby does not have clinical depression. He also actually hasn't 'gone around smacking up women'. So either way, your point that they are 'two peas in a pod' is wrong. SVC took a career break because of a medically diagnosed condition. Gabby took a career break because he was out of shape.
Well as someone who has suffered clinical depression and who knows many others who have, i can assure you SVC's symptoms are a rarity and most also cope without disappearing to a clinic for 3 months or quitting work. Depression can affect anyone, nice people, horrible people, just like a cold or cancer and while it may be possible his depression made his behaviour worse, I think its more likely he was just a dick who happened to have depression, rather than someone acting a dick because of depression
Sorry, after "most also cope without disappearing to a clinic for 3 months or quitting work", I've just lost interest in anything you have to say.
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fair enough, but if you think everyone with depression turns into a total cock then i think you have a complete lack of understanding of the illness
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fair enough, but if you think everyone with depression turns into a total cock then i think you have a complete lack of understanding of the illness
And if you think it's ok to judge people on the support they need to cope with the illness as you did above or that yours is the only experience of the illness that counts, then you have a complete lack of understanding of pretty much everything.
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fair enough, but if you think everyone with depression turns into a total cock then i think you have a complete lack of understanding of the illness
What’s Collymore done to upset you so much? I can remember one instance where he lost it and hit someone, but other than that I can’t think of much else.
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fair enough, but if you think everyone with depression turns into a total cock then i think you have a complete lack of understanding of the illness
And if you think it's ok to judge people on the support they need to cope with the illness as you did above or that yours is the only experience of the illness that counts, then you have a complete lack of understanding of pretty much everything.
We all go by personal and others experience to an extent so me and the 6 or so people i know who have/had it is mine, and i can assure you fighting people, beating up women and generally acting like a complete madman are not common symptoms at all. Personally i hate the public impression SVC brought to the condition because believe it or not, most of us just get on with it and don't do anything of the sort. I'm betting you probably work with people who have had treatment or are on medication and you wouldn't know. I know someone who has beaten up his girlfriend. He hasn't got depression, he's just an arsehole, and if he did have depression he'd still be an arsehole.
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What a load of bollocks.
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well perhaps you need to start a thread in off-topic Saunders Heroes, and ask for forumers experiences who have suffered from it. I'm sure there's a fair few on here who have. I doubt you'll find many who recognise SVC's actions as where they were with the illness or will appreciate being called liars when they claim they didn't head off to the priory or smack up their partners. That's all i intend to say on the matter.
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If he has any sense he'll be on the phone to SVC for career advice. Two pea's in a pod them two,
Yeah, one had professionally diagnosed clinical depression whereas the other just pissed it against the wall due to lifestyle choices. Almost identical.
Lots of people have clinical depression. Surprisingly, the symptoms don't include smacking up women and acting a dick.
Surprisingly, the illness manifests itself in different ways depending on the person. Either way, Gabby does not have clinical depression. He also actually hasn't 'gone around smacking up women'. So either way, your point that they are 'two peas in a pod' is wrong. SVC took a career break because of a medically diagnosed condition. Gabby took a career break because he was out of shape.
Well as someone who has suffered clinical depression and who knows many others who have, i can assure you SVC's symptoms are a rarity and most also cope without disappearing to a clinic for 3 months or quitting work. Depression can affect anyone, nice people, horrible people, just like a cold or cancer and while it may be possible his depression made his behaviour worse, I think its more likely he was just a dick who happened to have depression, rather than someone acting a dick because of depression
I have honestly never read such rubbish.
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well perhaps you need to start a thread in off-topic Saunders Heroes, and ask for forumers experiences who have suffered from it. I'm sure there's a fair few on here who have. I doubt you'll find many who recognise SVC's actions as where they were with the illness or will appreciate being called liars when they claim they didn't head off to the priory or smack up their partners. That's all i intend to say on the matter.
How do you know who has suffered from it and who hasn't? Some people will feel comfortable with sharing, others won't.
And I doubt that those who have had to take time off work due to it appreciate being told that they should have just coped with it like 'most others'.
Nobody has said that all people with depression smack their partners, or even that that depression caused SVC to commit the one act of violence he was accused of. Neither has anyone said that anyone is a liar for saying they didn't smack their partner so stop making up absolute bollocks.
The only person here showing any kind of lack of empathy here with people suffering from depression is you, so get off your high horse.
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well perhaps you need to start a thread in off-topic Saunders Heroes, and ask for forumers experiences who have suffered from it. I'm sure there's a fair few on here who have. I doubt you'll find many who recognise SVC's actions as where they were with the illness or will appreciate being called liars when they claim they didn't head off to the priory or smack up their partners. That's all i intend to say on the matter.
How do you know who has suffered from it and who hasn't? Some people will feel comfortable with sharing, others won't.
And I doubt that those who have had to take time off work due to it appreciate being told that they should have just coped with it like 'most others'.
Nobody has said that all people with depression smack their partners, or even that that depression caused SVC to commit the one act of violence he was accused of. Neither has anyone said that anyone is a liar for saying they didn't smack their partner so stop making up absolute bollocks.
The only person here showing any kind of lack of empathy here with people suffering from depression is you, so get off your high horse.
Quite. I bet the likes of Gary Speed and Robin Williams wished they could have coped how Sickbeggar thinks they should have.
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How do you know who has suffered from it and who hasn't? Some people will feel comfortable with sharing, others won't.
If think we'd all be surprised if we knew exactly who had been afflicted by this illness. Many, many people, don't draw the attention of others to their depression if at all possible.
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How do you know who has suffered from it and who hasn't? Some people will feel comfortable with sharing, others won't.
If think we'd all be surprised if we knew exactly who had been afflicted by this illness. Many, many people, don't draw the attention of others to their depression if at all possible.
Completely agree Chris.
And making sweeping generalisations based on 'me and my couple of mates' is not helpful to those who may not wish to draw attention to their depression, may not be experiencing it in the same way or may need a different type/level of support.
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Anyway, back to Gabby:
Legend my fucking arse...
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Reading this is enough to make you feel depressed.
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Dunno about 'Bruce out', more like 'Noose out'.
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Anyway, back to Gabby:
Legend my fucking arse...
This and more likely Leg End/ Bell End lol!!!
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He’s on his way back according to a report with us being desperate for players when the sales happen.
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He’s on his way back according to a report with us being desperate for players when the sales happen.
It’s utter click bait bollocks with literally nothing in the article to back up the headline. You’ll be amazed to learn James Nursey is involved.
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He’s on his way back according to a report with us being desperate for players when the sales happen.
If we cant afford staff in the bar selling the shit beer , then he can do a job there.
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Nursery enough said.
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Considering he's never fit enough to play he's the exact opposite of what you'd want to sign when money is fecked. So i'm filing it under a load of old tosh.
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Nursery enough said.
Didn't Nursey write the piece that ignited the angst the other day? That seemed plausible enough to most of us.
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this is the worst joke of all time, isn't it?
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Still hasn’t got a club
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Shock! Wait until TSM2 rocks up somewhere, he’ll give him a contract.
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I am not joking when I say that with everything that has happened since the play off final and the financial problems and the Grealish situation and the takeover I had genuinely forgotten all about Gabby.
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Still hasn’t got a club
I am actually quite miffed to see that this thread has been bumped.*
Not many fucks given here I'm afraid.
*I'm not really.
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You reap what you sew.
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You reap what you sew.
His career has fallen apart at the seams.
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You reap what you sew.
His career has fallen apart at the seams.
Yes, agreed. How many warnings did he receive? He took the piss, just like fat bloke gate man and Richards. The scrap heap beckons, albeit a scrap heap built from gold. Made for life.
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You reap what you sew.
His career has fallen apart at the seams.
Yes, agreed. How many warnings did he receive? He took the piss, just like fat bloke gate man and Richards. The scrap heap beckons, albeit a scrap heap built from gold. Made for life.
His performances against blues always had a bit of needle to them though.
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That it appears not a single club has shown any interest in him indicates that the football world has finally cottoned on to the fact he's finished.
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That it appears not a single club has shown any interest in him indicates that the football world has finally cottoned on to the fact he's finished.
There's been some gossip but no reel interest.
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He probably feels stitched up
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I'm not surprised he hasn't found anywhere yet, he's been bobbins for ages.
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I thought this thread would be tailor-made for Gabby news but yarn knot going to find it here.
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Can anyone pin-point where?
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Can anyone pin-point where?
Darn it! I can't.
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Play him behind Elmobroidery.
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It all started to unravel about six years ago.
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Is this thread still going?
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He'th a thimble of our decline.
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He'th a thimble of our decline.
Bravo sir
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The H&V golden rule: an unlikely thread shows an upturn in activity = puns. All part of the rich tapestry.
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Darn it, he probably doesn't even want another gig.
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He'th a thimble of our decline.
Bravo sir
Bravo thir
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Stitched up Villa for years
Could’ve been a great, chose to be a fat waster
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You could just imagine if our rich overlords did not arrive when they did we may have had to have turned to him to actually play :o
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We would have hoped he would cotton on to what was needed of him, not just turn out to needle the bluenoses. But this is history now, I say sew what.... ;)
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We’ve all sung his praises down the years when he’s done this or that. Ultimately he’s delivered no silverware, in pretty decent teams, some of them.
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We’ve all sung his praises down the years when he’s done this or that. Ultimately he’s delivered no silverware, in pretty decent teams, some of them.
Well he is our top PM goalscorer and managed to stuff the blues and baggies on several occasions - despite the lack of silverware he can take that as the silver lining to his time here. he has me in stitches winding them up on instagram - He will no doubt wear that as his badge of honour. good job he has moved into the fashion industry as i dont see a career in punditry ahead of him
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If he pundited a game in which Barry Bannan lost his temper he could call him a cross titch.
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...good job he has moved into the fashion industry
It should be a seamless transition.
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What does Holte End hero Ian tailor think about all this?
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Hemmed and hawed
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You can tell he gave his awl by the way he knitted his brows.
(https://thumb.ibb.co/kB2v39/Gabriel_Agbonlahor.jpg) (https://ibb.co/kB2v39)
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Of course he could give up football and become a Singer.
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Weave got a punathon going - I wonder if Gabby will cotton on to it - these types of thread always have me in stitches :)
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The knit-wit wasn't a patch on any of the reel Villa-heroes... I wonder where he'll he decide two-ply his trade next?
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Several of these replies have been pearlers!
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Several of these replies have been pearlers!
Knit one, perl one, I can see a pattern developing
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The way he lived his life when he was playing for us he thought he was Earnest Hemingway
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He's bobbins.
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I hear he has got some panto work at the Birmingham Rep in A Christmas Carol. He plays Bob Crochet.
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These punathons give me the needle.
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Denier not understand, it's a punathon.
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Gabby was never the same after Young left, who how to thread the ball through to him.
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Enough althready!
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Fair to say this thread hasn't had me in stitches.
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Fair to say this thread hasn't had me in stitches.
It's weaved off topic for sure.
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Gabby was never the same after Young left, who how to thread the ball through to him.
… through the eye of a needle, in fact.
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The former England forward and Villa's record Premier League goalscorer was ready to help the club in its hour of need before a summer takeover.
He left the club in the summer, 14 years after his debut, having made 391 appearances and scoring 86 goals - 75 times in the top flight.
Villa's failure to return to the Premier League following a 1-0 Sky Bet Championship play-off final defeat to Fulham in May left them struggling financially under former owner Tony Xia.
Before Nassef Sawiris and Wes Edens bought a 55 per cent stake in the club in July, Agbonlahor - who had already turned down approaches from the Championship and SPL - offered to play for nothing.
He told Press Association Sport: "I was aware a couple of strikers had what seemed to be long-term injuries and everyone knew the club had financial difficulties, so I asked my agent to speak with Steve Bruce and make the offer I would play for free.
"There were no strings attached, I didn't want paying, no appearance money, nothing, it was a genuine offer to help the club I love.
"The manager had been good for me when he arrived. I had been in a bad place before he was appointed and he gave me the opportunity to get back involved.
"He was appreciative of my offer but no one was aware the club was in the final stages of being sold to sort the financial problems."
Since his offer, Agbonlahor, who won three England caps, has declined further interest from the Scottish top flight and English second tier, while there have been approaches from abroad.
But despite remaining a free agent the 32-year-old, who has spent time working on his fashion label Six Figures Official, does not want to hang up his boots.
"It's been a difficult decision. Having been at Villa all my career, I did not want to play for another Championship club," said Agbonlahor, who struggled for game-time in his last two seasons at Villa.
"I appreciate the offers, it just didn't feel right. As for the SPL, unless it's one of the big couple of clubs, to be honest, that doesn't excite me.
"There has been interest from the Middle East, Turkey and Thailand and that new challenge, lifestyle and opportunity interests me but I have a young family and I'm very conscious of the impact playing abroad would have.
"I don't need to chase a deal and will only sign for a club that genuinely excites me. I have no interest playing below Championship level so abroad realistically is the likely destination if I decide to make that decision.
"I am fortunate I've had the same agent, Tim Webb, all of my career and he has been great looking after all of my finances and investments, so financially there is no need to accept anything that doesn't really work for me and my family.
"I don't want to retire yet. I admit I have made some mistakes, I do have some regrets but that's life, who hasn't made mistakes? Hopefully I will be remembered by the (Aston Villa) fans for the good times."
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That's the most erudite I've ever heard him.
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That's the most erudite I've ever heard him.
I bet Gabby doesnt even know what erudite means , cause I dont :)
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That's the most erudite I've ever heard him.
I bet Gabby doesnt even know what erudite means , cause I dont :)
It's a type of Glue mate
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Seems as though he has an excuse for not playing anywhere. He gave up putting in the hard work a long time ago.
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"I'm just waiting for the right opportunity."
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"I was in a bad place". Bruce's kebab shop?
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Seems as though he has an excuse for not playing anywhere. He gave up putting in the hard work a long time ago.
Exactly. He's not retired but he'll only play for clubs that don't want him.
Work-shy waster.
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That's the most erudite I've ever heard him.
I bet Gabby doesnt even know what erudite means , cause I dont :)
It's a type of Glue mate
That’s a really epoxy joke John
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That's the most erudite I've ever heard him.
I bet Gabby doesnt even know what erudite means , cause I dont :)
It's a type of Glue mate
That’s a really epoxy joke John
Don't sniff, it could have been worse.
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i have just had to dry my eyes from the emotion of reading Gabbys heart breaking story,
"He was in a bad place", for many seasons before Bruce arrived (he just could not score from those places on the pitch)
But I am glad that in 5 years time I will not be reading about him being bankrupt!
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i have just had to dry my eyes from the emotion of reading Gabbys heart breaking story,
"He was in a bad place", for many seasons before Bruce arrived (he just could not score from those places on the pitch)
But I am glad that in 5 years time I will not be reading about him being bankrupt!
He mentions his fashion business so bankruptcy must be in the realms of possibilities. :D
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It was not the places he was in, it was the amount of him that was in them.
And Erudite is the Greek Goddess protector of Kebab shop proprietors.
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That's the most erudite I've ever heard him.
I bet Gabby doesnt even know what erudite means , cause I dont :)
It's a type of Glue mate
That’s a really epoxy joke John
It's his resin d'être
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Only 32? - blimey, if he'd kept fit and interested he could have had another few years at a decent level.
Don't let's get stuck in another pun-fest, either; most of the inputs so far have been pretty tacky.
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He wouldn't have got the wages anywhere else that he ad here.
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Fair play for offering to play for nothing. However, I will never, ever forgive him and Richards for being spotted in Dubai and in his case with women in a hotel room at our greatest hour of need in the last 30 years. He showed utter contempt for the club 'he loves'. And for Mr Garde in particular.
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How about he pays back the money he got for the last 5 years? That would be a great gesture. He became a very rich man for doing the square root of fuck all and taking the piss out of his “boyhood” club. Thanks for the good memories Gabby (and there are many) but go away now.
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The former England forward and Villa's record Premier League goalscorer was ready to help the club in its hour of need before a summer takeover.
He left the club in the summer, 14 years after his debut, having made 391 appearances and scoring 86 goals - 75 times in the top flight.
Villa's failure to return to the Premier League following a 1-0 Sky Bet Championship play-off final defeat to Fulham in May left them struggling financially under former owner Tony Xia.
Before Nassef Sawiris and Wes Edens bought a 55 per cent stake in the club in July, Agbonlahor - who had already turned down approaches from the Championship and SPL - offered to play for nothing.
He told Press Association Sport: "I was aware a couple of strikers had what seemed to be long-term injuries and everyone knew the club had financial difficulties, so I asked my agent to speak with Steve Bruce and make the offer I would play for free.
"There were no strings attached, I didn't want paying, no appearance money, nothing, it was a genuine offer to help the club I love.
"The manager had been good for me when he arrived. I had been in a bad place before he was appointed and he gave me the opportunity to get back involved.
"He was appreciative of my offer but no one was aware the club was in the final stages of being sold to sort the financial problems."
Since his offer, Agbonlahor, who won three England caps, has declined further interest from the Scottish top flight and English second tier, while there have been approaches from abroad.
But despite remaining a free agent the 32-year-old, who has spent time working on his fashion label Six Figures Official, does not want to hang up his boots.
"It's been a difficult decision. Having been at Villa all my career, I did not want to play for another Championship club," said Agbonlahor, who struggled for game-time in his last two seasons at Villa.
"I appreciate the offers, it just didn't feel right. As for the SPL, unless it's one of the big couple of clubs, to be honest, that doesn't excite me.
"There has been interest from the Middle East, Turkey and Thailand and that new challenge, lifestyle and opportunity interests me but I have a young family and I'm very conscious of the impact playing abroad would have.
"I don't need to chase a deal and will only sign for a club that genuinely excites me. I have no interest playing below Championship level so abroad realistically is the likely destination if I decide to make that decision.
"I am fortunate I've had the same agent, Tim Webb, all of my career and he has been great looking after all of my finances and investments, so financially there is no need to accept anything that doesn't really work for me and my family.
"I don't want to retire yet. I admit I have made some mistakes, I do have some regrets but that's life, who hasn't made mistakes? Hopefully I will be remembered by the (Aston Villa) fans for the good times."
He is so keen to carry on playing he has ruled out playing in the Championship, League One, League two, abroad and for any club in the Premier League who isn't one of the "top clubs". Who said beggars can't be choosers?
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Has a young family. Doesn’t he mean he’ has a few young families?
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SPL or overseas? Ether way Villa win :)
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Training and playing for nothing seems a bit strong.
How about settling for, say, £30,000 a month?
Of course, whether Gabby can afford to pay all that is another issue...
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Fucking empty gesture trying to court sympathy. Fuck off.
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i have just had to dry my eyes from the emotion of reading Gabbys heart breaking story,
"He was in a bad place", for many seasons before Bruce arrived (he just could not score from those places on the pitch)
But I am glad that in 5 years time I will not be reading about him being bankrupt!
He mentions his fashion business so bankruptcy must be in the realms of possibilities. :D
Let's hope he doesn't regret giving Acorns £200,000.
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Fucking empty gesture trying to court sympathy. Fuck off.
Bang on.Our 'hour of need' was the season we got relegated, don't recall our club captain being too bothered at the time.The fucking leech.
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My heart bleeds for the sponging twat.
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Another brainless parasite. We’ve had a few. How is Micah Richards?
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Gaby had the world at his feet and blew it. If he wanted to re-ignite his career he should have gone on loan and worked hard, but instead he took the easy money.
But if he did make that offer then fair play to him for that.
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Everyone loses their way. I cant condemn as it would be completely hypocritical but i'm glad we have the H&V Panel of eternal condemnation to sentence him to an eternity of fire and brimstone.
Young men, some of whom are not the brightest, presented with riches beyond their wildest dreams at an institution lurching from crisis to crisis with an apparent lack of any discipline and a revolving door on the top floor. He is not exonerated from blame, but the sad end to Gabby's career is a bi-product of the shit show we have been running for the last few years
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Any chance we can sign him up for the blues game, last minute option from the bench :)
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Everyone loses their way. I cant condemn as it would be completely hypocritical but i'm glad we have the H&V Panel of eternal condemnation to sentence him to an eternity of fire and brimstone.
Young men, some of whom are not the brightest, presented with riches beyond their wildest dreams at an institution lurching from crisis to crisis with an apparent lack of any discipline and a revolving door on the top floor. He is not exonerated from blame, but the sad end to Gabby's career is a bi-product of the shit show we have been running for the last few years
Or alternatively he was a Billy Big Bollocks prick who showed total disregard or respect for the club, but for Garde in particular.
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Is the correct answer.
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Looks like Gabby has officially retired
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10 years ago
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What are we gonna do now?
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What are we gonna do now?
We should give him a testimonial. Against Small Heath. ;)
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There were some good times. I wish him good luck for the future.
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Behind closed doors.
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Cheers Gabby, bye.
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Don't forget to hand in your car park pass.
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Did as much as any player to fcuk the club over. Ended as another freeloader stealing a living, when he could have been a legend. He’ll probably be bankrupt in a couple of years too.
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Gabby agbonlahor on Instagram:
"The time has come to officially retire and watch Aston Villa as a fan,"
"If I would have been told at school I would play nearly 400 league games, be the record Premier League goalscorer for Aston Villa, captain the great club and represent England at senior level, I would have laughed.
"I want to say thank you to all the supporters, the staff I have worked with at a great club and my ex-team-mates.
"The thought of playing for another team or playing against Aston Villa was something I just couldn't do. I look forward to whatever the future holds."
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If I had been told that such a player would end up becoming a toxic presence, taking the piss out of the club, professional footballer colleagues, and the fans, I would have laughed.
Yours, the man who coined 'Flabby Onegoalayear' and 'Flabby Aintgonnascore'.
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You didn't even mention his poor grammar, respek'!
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Bye then - should be the poster boy of how not to go about being a professional.
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Retired as 32 !!
I'd like to say he was a wasted talent but I don't believe he ever had any other than being able to run fast.
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He could run like fun and if he had no time, score. The moment he had time to think about it, he would fluff his lines
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Retired as 32 !!
I'd like to say he was a wasted talent but I don't believe he ever had any other than being able to run fast.
Of course he did. Yes he wasted it over the last few years but it's daft to say he was never good.
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I thought he officially retired at the end of last season, which is why they did that thing on the pitch for him at the derby county game.
Please don't tell me we were still paying him up to this week?
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His hat trick vs Man City in the opening game of the 2008 season showed exactly what he was capable of at his best. A goal with his right foot, left foot and a header. The perfect hat trick. He wasn’t all about pace but in his prime it was a lethal weapon against some of the best defenders around.
On reflection he had a very good career. On reflection it could have been much, much more. Yes he wasted it. But the club is also guilty of wasting the opportunity of his prime years through being in continual chaos.
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Retired as 32 !!
I'd like to say he was a wasted talent but I don't believe he ever had any other than being able to run fast.
He scored shedloads in our youth teams.
EDIT, just found this: His scoring record was very impressive in the youth team—with 62 goals in just 72 games, he mirrored Vassell's equally impressive totals and broke Vassell's youth record for most goals in a season in 2004 with 40.
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Fuck him, the fat fucking leach. And what's the bullshit about him being a Villa fan?
I shall always remember him as the face on that giant blow-up cock and balls that someone took into the away end at the Emirates on the day that we finally went off the edge of the cliff. Hope he enjoys spending my hard earned money now he's retired
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Retired as 32 !!
I'd like to say he was a wasted talent but I don't believe he ever had any other than being able to run fast.
He scored shedloads in our youth teams.
EDIT, just found this: His scoring record was very impressive in the youth team—with 62 goals in just 72 games, he mirrored Vassell's equally impressive totals and broke Vassell's youth record for most goals in a season in 2004 with 40.
Fantastic , so he nearly scored as many goals for the youth side as he did in 13/14 seasons of being in the 1st team.
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To say he had no talent is ridiculous.
Any one saying that ever played football at a top level?
His attitude stank and he let himself, the club and the fans down.
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He could run like fun and if he had no time, score. The moment he had time to think about it, he would fluff his lines
That was my take on him too. He was like a shit Andy Cole. His pace was a massive outlet for us when we were breaking in the MON years as any hoofed clearance could be chased down but I don't think he had a brilliant football brain (add your own punchlines).
I recall Carragher saying he wasn't a great goalscorer but somehow he was one of the forwards that defenders least enjoyed playing against. A more recent version of Kevin . He could have been so much more.
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Gabby agbonlahor on Instagram:
"The time has come to officially retire and watch Aston Villa as a fan,"
"If I would have been told at school I would play nearly 400 league games, be the record Premier League goalscorer for Aston Villa, captain the great club and represent England at senior level, I would have laughed.
"I want to say thank you to all the supporters, the staff I have worked with at a great club and my ex-team-mates.
"The thought of playing for another team or playing against Aston Villa was something I just couldn't do. I look forward to whatever the future holds."
Or in other words, "I tried to find another mob gullible enough to pay me massive wages for contributing nothing, but couldn't find anyone stupid enough so had to pack it in".
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I hold fond memories of him. He let us down and made mistakes, but he was a good servant for a while too.
Thanks for the good memories.
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There were some good times. I wish him good luck for the future.
Think this is about where I am. I'm not disappointed that he's no longer collecting a wage, but in ten years when I think of him I'm more likely to think of the winners at Small Heath or The Theatre of Hype than the seasons that might have been.
Plus Jane will beat me up in the Bartons if I slag him off.
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Retired as 32 !!
I'd like to say he was a wasted talent but I don't believe he ever had any other than being able to run fast.
Disagree. Look between between 07-10. Yes he had flaws even at his peak but guy was developing into a very decent striker at premier league level.
Was never the same after MON left and yes a waste of time last 3-4 years of his career here. Lerner giving him a new deal in September 2014 was a typically poor business decision.
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Like a lot of middle range Premier League players of his generation he stopped trying because he no longer had to to make ends meet. See also Sinclair, Scott. He will forever be soured by his conduct throughout the relegation season - namely, being obscenely overweight for a PL footballer, the six touches in the first half away at Spurs including two kick offs, the shisha smoking, the trip to Dubai when he flew back in at 7 in the morning on the day of training before a crucial match, the total lack of respect for Garde in particular and the nauseating, ridiculous and entirely unmerited shushing of the crowd when he scored his one goal at home to Norwich. Symptomatic of the average, lazy, rich footballer.
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1111285823771693057 (https://twitter.com/i/status/1111285823771693057)
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I don't get it...is he an American Bluenose trying to take the piss out of a Villa player that pretty much always scored against them?
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Often thought he was a sprinter who sometimes scored goals. Like has been already stated, if he had time to think he'd often mess it up.
Meh ???
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I don't get it...is he an American Bluenose trying to take the piss out of a Villa player that pretty much always scored against them?
Ha, no....he's being doing it for a few years. He's The American Soccer Fan on fb and twitter taking the piss out of American soccer fans/ English Football. He does them all, seems to have a bit more hatred for Leeds than anyone else. Calls WBA, West Birmingham Baggie Birds, Sheff Wed the Sheffield Nocturnal Birdie Owls and Derby, Derby County Ram Billy Goat Sheep Fans AKA the Soccer Lamb Chops. Some of his vids and posts are quite funny if you're into silly shit.
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He's about as funny as someone else's fart in a lift.
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He's as funny as Darren Farley.
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He's about as funny as someone else's fart in a lift.
C'mon, farts are always funny.
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Happy to remember those winning goals at the Sty, on your way now Gabby, good luck with whatever you do!
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Some good memories of his early career, as some have already said, top defences would often shit themselves when Gabby was in form. He never really fulfilled his potential though and to me, he just looked gormless most of the time.
Unfortunately, it will be the latter years that he will be mostly remembered for- a so-called senior pro taking the piss out of his employer and the supporters, for a number of years. Always remember him trying a bit round contract renewal time, then slacking off again one it was signed.
Sorry, but a few goals against Blues and a few England caps, doesn’t make him a Villa great in my eyes, when you look at it in the full context. Cheers for the good times Gabby, but you can do one now.
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Not a great by any means but i'd say he'll go down as a cult hero. He always seemed to start a season quite prolifically then would have a lean spell after Christmas. Some good memories though including the Man City hat-trick and a stunner vs Blackburn in the McCleish season. I suppose my favourite derby goal was at St Andrews - not the Ridgewell game but the second one, 1-0 - where he scored in the dying minutes.
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Not a great by any means but i'd say he'll go down as a cult hero. He always seemed to start a season quite prolifically then would have a lean spell after Christmas. Some good memories though including the Man City hat-trick and a stunner vs Blackburn in the McCleish season. I suppose my favourite derby goal was at St Andrews - not the Ridgewell game but the second one, 1-0 - where he scored in the dying minutes.
i think if he hadn’t have taken the piss out of the people who paid his wages the last few years,then he probably would have been considered a cult hero, in the local lad made good vein. You can see from some of the comments on here though, that opinion is split, to say the least.
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Shitebag.
How can you have a lecturer for a father and still expect three points in the early rounds of the League Cup.
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He'll go down as a cult hero. .
Bleeding autocorrect, eh? ;-)
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A good servant without being a great one. Should have scored more than he did (he seemed to miss a lot of one on one chances).
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He'll go down as a cult hero. .
Bleeding autocorrect, eh? ;-)
Coffee spluttering moment there BE!
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Honestly couldn't care less if his main attribute was pace, fact is he delivered at the top level, still the clubs highest scorer, probably will be for many decades to come, problem for Gabby was this insane sense of loyalty that doesn't exist in football anymore, you could say to his credit, you could also say stupidity, early on there was a real good player in there, when Wenger offered MON 15 million for him, Gabby should have gone, from that point, probably would have continued with his England career, instead, he continued to play for a club in terrible decline, bad manager after terrible manager, no direction, played out of position, screwed him up, would seriously question his sense of ambition, not his football in his early days, Blues fans hated him with a vengeance.
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Honestly couldn't care less if his main attribute was pace, fact is he delivered at the top level, still the clubs highest scorer, probably will be for many decades to come, problem for Gabby was this insane sense of loyalty that doesn't exist in football anymore, you could say to his credit, you could also say stupidity, early on there was a real good player in there, when Wenger offered MON 15 million for him, Gabby should have gone, from that point, probably would have continued with his England career, instead, he continued to play for a club in terrible decline, bad manager after terrible manager, no direction, played out of position, screwed him up, would seriously question his sense of ambition, not his football in his early days, Blues fans hated him with a vengeance.
Awesome early in his career but faded badly. Whilst the club was in terrible decline he did nothing to help arrest that. I look back now and reminisce about Gidman, Gray, Mortimer, Graydon, 81-82 players, Merson, Barry Milner, Young but rarely Gabby, apart from the Blose winners
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Faded badly toward the end, but that was during arguably the worst period in our history, but I’ll always have a soft spot for him for scoring goals in the big games, and at times he was dynamite. Fantastic in derby games as well, and Small Heath fans hated him because of it.
Enjoy your retirement, Gabby.
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In a way, it was bad luck his decline coincided with the clubs (links there of course). Because if the club had continued to challenge at the top end of the premier league he'd have been a well-thought of squad player in his later years rather than first choice centre forward battling relegation. Didn't help himself with the unprofessionalism at the end, so I get the fact some fans won't remember him fondly.
Anyway, scored a shit load of goals and was a local kid living the dream.
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In a way, it was bad luck his decline coincided with the clubs (links there of course). Because if the club had continued to challenge at the top end of the premier league he'd have been a well-thought of squad player in his later years rather than first choice centre forward battling relegation. Didn't help himself with the unprofessionalism at the end, so I get the fact some fans won't remember him fondly.
Anyway, scored a shit load of goals and was a local kid living the dream.
Well said, this just fills your heart with joy watching him sink the yobs and denying them anything.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzCqjGIq1L4
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Guy on twitter made an excellent point yesterday. Juan Pablo Angel scored about 30 less goals and was arguably less effective than Gabby in terms of all round game, yet JPA returning to VP a hero today and Gabby consistently ridiculed.
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He'll go down as a cult hero. .
Bleeding autocorrect, eh? ;-)
He never could spell. 😉
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Guy on twitter made an excellent point yesterday. Juan Pablo Angel scores about 30 less goals and was arguably less effective than Gabby in terms of all round game, yet JPA returning to VP a hero tomorrow and Gabby consistently ridiculed.
Gabby should have been all of that. But despite the stats he turned his back on the club when it needed him most. And given he was one of us is why it hurt the most.
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Gabby played twice as many games which tends to help, and if he returns in 12 years time I'll bet he would get a good reception as well.
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Guy on twitter made an excellent point yesterday. Juan Pablo Angel scored about 30 less goals and was arguably less effective than Gabby in terms of all round game, yet JPA returning to VP a hero today and Gabby consistently ridiculed.
Not even subtle manipulation of statistics to suit an argument there. Gabby was here for thirteen years, Angel six. It's all about context and whilst Angel had shortcomings, you could never question his attitude.
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Guy on twitter made an excellent point yesterday. Juan Pablo Angel scored about 30 less goals and was arguably less effective than Gabby in terms of all round game, yet JPA returning to VP a hero today and Gabby consistently ridiculed.
Remind me when JPA contributed the square root of fuck all as a senior professional during a season when we got relegated, wasn't fit enough to play during a season due to lifestyle and was more interested in partying in Dubai? That's why Gabby gets 'ridiculed'.
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It’s a shame he had a rapid decline in his last few years. On his day he wa great, but his days didn’t come often enough.
His perceived attitude didn’t help towards the end, but I wish him well. He was with us a long time, scored a lot of goals ( yes, it should have been more) and the blues games goals will always raise a smile.
The fact blues hate him so much means to me, he did ok.
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It’s a shame he had a rapid decline in his last few years. On his day he wa great, but his days didn’t come often enough.
His perceived attitude didn’t help towards the end, but I wish him well. He was with us a long time, scored a lot of goals ( yes, it should have been more) and the blues games goals will always raise a smile.
The fact blues hate him so much means to me, he did ok.
blues probably hate graham Fenton as much. Who cares what they think?
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I was just saying it was a good point like.... :) calm dowm
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Could of been a "contender" if he hadn't blown out of his arse for the last five years. Goodbye and thanks for the "derby" memories.
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Guy on twitter made an excellent point yesterday. Juan Pablo Angel scored about 30 less goals and was arguably less effective than Gabby in terms of all round game, yet JPA returning to VP a hero today and Gabby consistently ridiculed.
Remind me when JPA contributed the square root of fuck all as a senior professional during a season when we got relegated, wasn't fit enough to play during a season due to lifestyle and was more interested in partying in Dubai? That's why Gabby gets 'ridiculed'.
There was a rendition of Gabby's song on the Holte at the game today.
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Guy on twitter made an excellent point yesterday. Juan Pablo Angel scored about 30 less goals and was arguably less effective than Gabby in terms of all round game, yet JPA returning to VP a hero today and Gabby consistently ridiculed.
Remind me when JPA contributed the square root of fuck all as a senior professional during a season when we got relegated, wasn't fit enough to play during a season due to lifestyle and was more interested in partying in Dubai? That's why Gabby gets 'ridiculed'.
There was a rendition of Gabby's song on the Holte at the game today.
There were a few old songs belted out today
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Knob end. Assume when he talks about all the players being anti-Garde he’s including the French lads he got to know so well.
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Not the greatest fan of Remi Garde, is he?
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Gabby > Remi. All day, every day.
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Talk about damning with faint praise.
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It’s enough to make you splutter your cuppa when he says he couldn’t give as much to another club. I appreciate his honesty that he couldn’t be bothered, but it does indicate something of his character. As does his further comments about Garde.
I wasn’t there, I know nothing, but surely common courtesy suggests that you’d try to acknowledge something positive about the bloke.
Grabby will not be working his way up the leagues in management and why should he, but it does leave a bad taste that he didn’t give his all at a time we most needed it, to actually merit that ‘legend’ intro.
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Entirely accidental typo, but I won’t change it.
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Genuinely hate the guy. If he really gave a shit he would have got himself vaguely fit and helped us get back up the first season. Even a chubby straight line running tool like him should he able to bag goals in the championship.
The Garde stuff just cement his infantile victim mentality mindset. He stole a living off us and still thinks he’s hard done by. Basically never stopped sulking after MON left.
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In his last 5 seasons he scored 13 goals in 105 appearances. That says it all, for me.
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Genuinely hate the guy. If he really gave a shit he would have got himself vaguely fit and helped us get back up the first season. Even a chubby straight line running tool like him should he able to bag goals in the championship.
The Garde stuff just cement his infantile victim mentality mindset. He stole a living off us and still thinks he’s hard done by. Basically never stopped sulking after MON left.
This. Utter wanker.
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And that much of a fan i've not seen him at VP since he hung his boots up.
Maybe he sneaks into a private box away from the limelight but I think I would have heard
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I can't be bothered to watch the interview, but he's not a legend in my eyes. He couldn't even keep himself in shape, which is the absolute minimum that should be expected of a professional footballer. We were entitled to expect more from someone who supposedly supported the club. I don't blame him for seeing out his contract, but he can't also be given credit for having had the club's best interests at heart. James Collins on the other hand supposedly ripped-up his (albeit short-term) contract having injured himself in his first training session. Ultimately Gabby wasn't hungry enough, otherwise he would have asked to go on loan, or leave, long before he eventually did. The fact that he can't be bothered to play for another club says it all really.
I maintain that managing to relegate one of the founding members of the EPL, after 24 continuous seasons in the richest football competition on the planet was an amazing achievement, and one unlikely to ever be repeated. Ultimately Gabby was complicit in this, and allowing our standards as a club to drop to the extent that we were relegated.
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And that much of a fan i've not seen him at VP since he hung his boots up.
Maybe he sneaks into a private box away from the limelight but I think I would have heard
Really interesting. He liked us on his terms and when it suited him. Not in the same bracket as Taylor and other ex players who still show a genuine interest in us, including Stan. And that's before you even get into the playing side which was mostly woeful.
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I'm suprised the club agreed to that being filmed at VP.
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He was sitting behind me for the home SHA game last season.
There is a lot to criticise him for but not rating Garde isn't one of them, he wasn't very good.
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Sounds like his latter years as a player, only turning up for a derby game.
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And that much of a fan i've not seen him at VP since he hung his boots up.
Maybe he sneaks into a private box away from the limelight but I think I would have heard
I don't think we have a private box big enough for Gabby if he wants to bring along all of his kids.
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Agbonlahor coming back like a bad smell. He should be grateful he wasn’t run out of town with pitchforks and flaming torches for the way he behaved from 2011 to when he left. The fucking wastrel.
I seriously hope Garde doesn’t turn the other cheek and tells us exactly how this fuckwit behaved as I don’t think Gabby would come out smelling of roses.
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If ever anyone epitomised out decline after 2010 it was this oaf.
Lazy, half-arsed and arrogant. Hed make a token effort against SHA before going back to collecting and counting his undeserved salary.
Gabby Agbonlahor. The poster boy of Aston Villa's fall
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Poisonous parasite. Couldn’t give a sh#t as we slowly died. The fact that no other club would touch him with a barge pole is pretty damning.
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And that much of a fan i've not seen him at VP since he hung his boots up.
Maybe he sneaks into a private box away from the limelight but I think I would have heard
I don't think we have a private box big enough for Gabby if he wants to bring along all of his kids.
Done
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There is a lot to criticise him for but not rating Garde isn't one of them, he wasn't very good.
Yup.
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Serial grump Chris Sutton cosying up to a former team-mate for "online content" purposes , blimey, thought I'd seen it all. Did Sutton go blind with us or what happened?!
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An absolute poster boy for the half arsed, can't be bothered, club owes me a living sea of absolute dross we spent 6 or 7 years bobbing around in.
He's only marginally better than Richards in my book.
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Agbonlahor coming back like a bad smell. He should be grateful he wasn’t run out of town with pitchforks and flaming torches for the way he behaved from 2011 to when he left. The fucking wastrel.
I seriously hope Garde doesn’t turn the other cheek and tells us exactly how this fuckwit behaved as I don’t think Gabby would come out smelling of roses.
Years back I was on a lads weekend at Butlins in Minehead for a friend of ours 40th birthday. As we were all Villa fans we were in a pub watching us play Manure. We got talking to a bunch of United fans from Bristol who were celebrating their mate getting out of prison.He had been banged up for attacking his daughter's abusive boyfriend with a pitchfork. I don't think any flaming torches were involved though. One other interesting thing was that the guy who was 'handy' with a pitchfork only had one arm.
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Agbonlahor coming back like a bad smell. He should be grateful he wasn’t run out of town with pitchforks and flaming torches for the way he behaved from 2011 to when he left. The fucking wastrel.
I seriously hope Garde doesn’t turn the other cheek and tells us exactly how this fuckwit behaved as I don’t think Gabby would come out smelling of roses.
Years back I was on a lads weekend at Butlins in Minehead for a friend of ours 40th birthday. As we were all Villa fans we were in a pub watching us play Manure. We got talking to a bunch of United fans from Bristol who were celebrating their mate getting out of prison.He had been banged up for attacking his daughter's abusive boyfriend with a pitchfork. I don't think any flaming torches were involved though. One other interesting thing was that the guy who was 'handy' with a pitchfork only had one arm.
Did he also play the drums for Def Leppard?
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Shouldn't this thread be re-named, Lack of future or No Future?
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Considering he was Club captain, his attitude was a disgrace.
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Agbonlahor coming back like a bad smell. He should be grateful he wasn’t run out of town with pitchforks and flaming torches for the way he behaved from 2011 to when he left. The fucking wastrel.
I seriously hope Garde doesn’t turn the other cheek and tells us exactly how this fuckwit behaved as I don’t think Gabby would come out smelling of roses.
Years back I was on a lads weekend at Butlins in Minehead for a friend of ours 40th birthday. As we were all Villa fans we were in a pub watching us play Manure. We got talking to a bunch of United fans from Bristol who were celebrating their mate getting out of prison.He had been banged up for attacking his daughter's abusive boyfriend with a pitchfork. I don't think any flaming torches were involved though. One other interesting thing was that the guy who was 'handy' with a pitchfork only had one arm.
A man just out of clink, with one arm, having nobbled a nonce with a pitchfork? At Butlins Minehead?! Surely, Damo, you're either exaggerating or Butlins Minehead isn't the place I thought it was!
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That is a quality summary. Certainly when Belle & Sebastian did Bowlie Weekender #2 there that wasn’t the clientele. There was yoga with Frances McKee of The Vaselines though.
Risso did you do that or #1?
Very fond memories of #1 inc a game of football at sunrise on the beach after a heavy night, playing with Teenage Fanclub, B&S, the Mum twins etc, being greatful I didn’t break any favourite musicians hands, as well as blagging our way into the bands 5-a-side tournament and coming runners up. The site of the pinnacle of my football career (the tarmac pitch wasn’t even rectangular).
Not many very fond memories of the later Gabby period.
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Agbonlahor coming back like a bad smell. He should be grateful he wasn’t run out of town with pitchforks and flaming torches for the way he behaved from 2011 to when he left. The fucking wastrel.
I seriously hope Garde doesn’t turn the other cheek and tells us exactly how this fuckwit behaved as I don’t think Gabby would come out smelling of roses.
Years back I was on a lads weekend at Butlins in Minehead for a friend of ours 40th birthday. As we were all Villa fans we were in a pub watching us play Manure. We got talking to a bunch of United fans from Bristol who were celebrating their mate getting out of prison.He had been banged up for attacking his daughter's abusive boyfriend with a pitchfork. I don't think any flaming torches were involved though. One other interesting thing was that the guy who was 'handy' with a pitchfork only had one arm.
Great story Damo. Theres a few people I’d like to attack with a pitchfork. Just wondering how you’d acquire one in Manchester though? Ha! just read this back and missed the Bristol bit- it all makes sense now!!
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That is a quality summary. Certainly when Belle & Sebastian did Bowlie Weekender #2 there that wasn’t the clientele. There was yoga with Frances McKee of The Vaselines though.
Risso did you do that or #1?
Very fond memories of #1 inc a game of football at sunrise on the beach after a heavy night, playing with Teenage Fanclub, B&S, the Mum twins etc, being greatful I didn’t break any favourite musicians hands, as well as blagging our way into the bands 5-a-side tournament and coming runners up. The site of the pinnacle of my football career (the tarmac pitch wasn’t even rectangular).
Not many very fond memories of the later Gabby period.
Just #1. Teenage Fanclub were dirty fouling buggers as I recall.
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No, we haven't offered him a contract so you can relax!
Just saw on Facebook that he picked his all time best team that he played with. Micah fucking Richards is one of them!
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Did he actually play with David James?
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Richards was selected for his dressing room bantz, I should imagine.
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Did he actually play with David James?
With England perhaps?
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Did he actually play with David James?
With England perhaps?
Ah, could be that, Dave.
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Those two friendly matches for England with David James must have made a pretty big impression on him.
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Richards sticks out like a sore arse in that team. He must have been one of Gabby's drinking buddies.
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An announcement - take your pick
Gabby has tonight signed a contract until the end of the season
Or
Gabby has tonight become a father for the fourteenth time
(Only joking Gabby in case you are reading this)
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Those two friendly matches for England with David James must have made a pretty big impression on him.
That's Gabby off of Friedel's Xmas card list.
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Gabbys on TS now. He is telling how it was under lerner when lambert came its really really interesting.
Lerner was a absolute cretin and almost destroyed the club
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He’s certainly not a Remi Garde Fan.
Stuck between deciding is he correct, or is it player power being the culprit.
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He actually defended lambert saying it wasnt his fault. Lerner sold all the platers and made hij sign cheao players from lower leagues and gambled on poor players like helnius
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Does he say why he didn’t give a sh&t for five years?
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Was it Lambert or Lerner who were to blame for the fact that Gabby sprouted tits and love handles?
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Was it Lambert or Lerner who were to blame for the fact that Gabby sprouted tits and love handles?
But lets look at it from a player prospective. Players are sold the better ones like young milner and downing. Then replaced with players whose noway near as good. Then we have flop managers come in like houllier mcleish and garde.
It would unsettle most players i think. So its not all gabbys fault
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Lerner was a absolute cretin and almost destroyed the club
No shit?
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I think it was either Lambert or Lerner who was forcing him to throw his leg over lady guests two at a time in Mayfair. Maybe both.
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Personal responsibility is... see alan hutton.
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FWIW McLeish, Houllier and Garde are all successful managers at the highest level but not with us.
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Was it Lambert or Lerner who were to blame for the fact that Gabby sprouted tits and love handles?
But lets look at it from a player prospective. Players are sold the better ones like young milner and downing. Then replaced with players whose noway near as good. Then we have flop managers come in like houllier mcleish and garde.
It would unsettle most players i think. So its not all gabbys fault
It doesn't mean you stop giving a shit.
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I’ve seen a concerted effort by Agbonlahor and Richards to rewrite history over the last 6 months and whilst I’m always interested to hear different perspectives and would concur that it’s never one persons fault this pair of wastrels can quite frankly go fuck themselves.
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Good player, could have been a great player, a career ruined by successive managers, what did Gabby was a lack of ambition, he should have left much early on when Wenger came in for him, as for the comments about weight, it was Martin O'Neil that told Gabby to beef up, to try and stop the amount of bullying that was going on in the opposition box, our John Terry said Gabby was a nightmare to play against and Vidic commented saying the only way to play Gabby was to hack him down, which of course is what he did in the Carling Cup final and should of been sent of for, obviously Dowd thought otherwise, Gabby went the same way the whole club did.
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Remi Garde sounds a shite as we all knew he was.
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Sure. The manager who kept Lyonnais in the top four as his club faced bankruptcy and whom our club gave one transfer window to clean out the Aegean Stables of our dressing room and a corrupt committe member blocked the only transfer Remi Garde was allowed to attempt. Yeah he really is a shite that Remi Garde.
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As always, it is always someone else's fault!
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It seems a shame that Gabby feels he has to justify the w-nk of a player he became by talking to the media (like richards) and playing the blame game instead of taking some responsibility.
Re Garde he wasn't here long enough to make a judgement, but when it's clear you have no support from lerner or his minions (pretending to be football people) and you're being given the run-around in the changing room by the likes of Gabby, richards, lescott etc you're in a no-win situation.
Gabby needed to be a bit more like Hutton and less like some of the wastrels in our relegation season and then he wouldn't feel the need to justify himself.
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Remi Garde sounds a shite as we all knew he was.
Back at ya
" I don't understand your logic".
;)
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Was it Lambert or Lerner who were to blame for the fact that Gabby sprouted tits and love handles?
But lets look at it from a player prospective. Players are sold the better ones like young milner and downing. Then replaced with players whose noway near as good. Then we have flop managers come in like houllier mcleish and garde.
It would unsettle most players i think. So its not all gabbys fault
It doesn't mean you stop giving a shit.
I agree but we dont know what was going on behind the scenes. Think how demorising it must be having all your good players sold and then changing managers all the time. Cant be good for atmosphere at the club
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Sure. The manager who kept Lyonnais in the top four as his club faced bankruptcy and whom our club gave one transfer window to clean out the Aegean Stables of our dressing room and a corrupt committe member blocked the only transfer Remi Garde was allowed to attempt. Yeah he really is a shite that Remi Garde.
I couldn't care less what he did for for Lyon. He was utter shite for us.
Gabby gets stick for retiring 5 years before he actually did, Garde not trying and acting like a moron towards our best player in generations, coupled with his desperately poor record, shows how chronic he was.
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Remi Garde sounds a shite as we all knew he was.
Back at ya
" I don't understand your logic".
;)
What are you struggling with?
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Remi Garde sounds a shite as we all knew he was.
Back at ya
" I don't understand your logic".
;)
What are you struggling with?
Care to expand on that, maybe in a PM
If its a reference to my posting Off Topic then you are bang out of order.
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You said you don't understand my logic. I'm asking what part of "Garde was shite" are you struggling with, the implication being I'll happily elaborate further as to why Garde was shite.
I have no idea what else you're on about or why you'd be offended.
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Garde was shit, but I don't have a problem with how he treated Jack. He dropped him for a couple of games for disciplinary reasons.
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Garde waant great but lets not kid ourselves either he was stitched up by that bafoon lerner. Lerner didnt back him whatsoever.
What a shambles this peirod of the club was
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Garde waant great but lets not kid ourselves either he was stitched up by that bafoon lerner. Lerner didnt back him whatsoever.
What a shambles this peirod of the club was
Absolutely. He was well and truly hung out to dry by Villa. An awful time on and off the pitch - I certainly wouldn't take everything Gabby says as gospel either.
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I was reading a quote from Paul Birch the other day about how the players could see what was happening from 1984 onwards, they knew how it would end up but they pulled together and battled. That team who got relegated night have been dreadful but with one exception you couldn't really knock their attitude. Compare and contrast with the classs of 2016.
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You said you don't understand my logic. I'm asking what part of "Garde was shite" are you struggling with, the implication being I'll happily elaborate further as to why Garde was shite.
I have no idea what else you're on about or why you'd be offended.
You know exactly what I am talking about ……..
The reference to " I don't understand your logic" was a direct quote from you in the "Dean Smith Confirmed thread" and had no bearing on the Remi Garde comments - I was " getting back at ya" in jest, hence the smiley face.
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I can't say I'm too fussed about listening to what Gabby has to say, what happened has been and gone. Got a big game on Saturday and a Cup Final next week.
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You said you don't understand my logic. I'm asking what part of "Garde was shite" are you struggling with, the implication being I'll happily elaborate further as to why Garde was shite.
I have no idea what else you're on about or why you'd be offended.
You know exactly what I am talking about ……..
The reference to " I don't understand your logic" was a direct quote from you in the "Dean Smith Confirmed thread" and had no bearing on the Remi Garde comments - I was " getting back at ya" in jest, hence the smiley face.
I know it was a reference to what I'd said the other day. Your comment that because we lost to Bournemouth means we can't beat Arsenal made no sense, so I stated that I didn't understand your logic.
What precisely you're struggling to grasp about Garde being shit I don't know. Hence I asked.
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My logic is that if we can't beat a poor team like Bournemouth I fail to see how we will " batter" the likes of an improving arsenal or Man Utd side - given that we've not done that for over 25 years - indeed in all my time watching Villa I can't recall us battering either of those clubs - Perhaps the League Cup Final (Big Ron's side) being an exception - Arsenal and Man Utd always seem to do well at Villa Park
In respect of Garde - I agree he didn't succeed in any sense at the Villa, however he wasn't dealt a very good hand by the owner at that time - certainly didn't receive the type of backing Smith has enjoyed - to conclude the only thing I am struggling with right now is whether I travel down to Wembley on the 1st in the hope of picking up a ticket for the final or watching it in a Merseyside pub with other "Mersey Villans"
UTV
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I think Arsenal are poor. They've won the same games as us. It's also the reason that we beat Leicester and lose to Bournemouth; welcome to the inconsistent world of a naive and inexperienced side.
The gap has not been smaller between us and Man United on the pitch since 1992/93. It doesn't mean we will win, but I'm not going to write any if those games off and think we have the quality and the ability to get a positive result. I'm not doubting our propensity to do something daft.
Garde gets no more a free pass than any of the other clowns at the club during that time. The bizarre mythologising of him is misplaced. He was crap, he was dealt a bad hand and gave up, which is unforgivable for me. You die on your feet and only on your arse if you're put there. He sat down willingly, the coward.
He isn't the only villain of that time or even close to the worst- the giant man baby Lerner shoulders that title.
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I think Arsenal are poor. They've won the same games as us. It's also the reason that we beat Leicester and lose to Bournemouth; welcome to the inconsistent world of a naive and inexperienced side.
The gap has not been smaller between us and Man United on the pitch since 1992/93. It doesn't mean we will win, but I'm not going to write any if those games off and think we have the quality and the ability to get a positive result. I'm not doubting our propensity to do something daft.
Garde gets no more a free pass than any of the other clowns at the club during that time. The bizarre mythologising of him is misplaced. He was crap, he was dealt a bad hand and gave up, which is unforgivable for me. You die on your feet and only on your arse if you're put there. He sat down willingly, the coward.
He isn't the only villain of that time or even close to the worst- the giant man baby Lerner shoulders that title.
I agree. Garde was destined to fail before he was appointed, but even allowing for that, he was an absolute disaster.
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Garde was dealt quite a good hand at his next club, Montreal Impact, but failed there as well.
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Lerner was a absolute cretin and almost destroyed the club
No shit?
Lerner remains the biggest villain of them all.
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FWIW McLeish, Houllier and Garde are all successful managers at the highest level but not with us.
Wasn't Garde the first manager in about 10 years not to win the french league with Lyon or have I got that wrong? Houllier was decent but we just got him years too late, similar to signing likes of Ginola and indeed Drinkwater years past their prime.
He actually played quite well for McLeish for first half of the season but then totally lost form in the second half of that season.
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Garde was dealt quite a good hand at his next club, Montreal Impact, but failed there as well.
Whether he was ever going to be good or not (and I agree it wasn't exactly a bed of roses to come into) I am surprised he hasn't just gone back to manage in France if his reputation at Lyon was that high. Surely a Marseille or Monaco would've been in for him like a shot given Andre Vilas Boas is doing pretty well at Marseille currently.
If Lyon were in bad financial shape when he was manager then that's another mitigating factor but last time I looked they still have the same president (Aulas) who's been in charge there for decades and they were spending 20m on Lille players this summer.
Perhaps Garde is just bad in his timing and he finally got the hint about his MLS stint.
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The Birmingham Mail must have Gabby and Huttons phone numbers on speed dial - any question about the Villa they are the one's who are phoned.
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Thanks for that, Kieron. Interesting interview especially regarding Stan.
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He's on Talksport a fair bit aswell.
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Gabby has been on Talksport this evening and has said he has spoken to a lot of players, Villa and others and they many have said they don't want the to play and some have said they "won't" play.
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What Gabby became very good at. Mixing with players who did not want to play. Mr Unmotivator
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What Gabby became very good at. Mixing with players who did not want to play. Mr Unmotivator
Very good Brian.
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Gabby's just joined Twitter. What could possibly go wrong?
He's already called Remi Garde a dosser in his first hour.
Linky (https://twitter.com/officialga11)
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I've seen that as well. Surely it is fake?
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I've seen that as well. Surely it is fake?
Got the link wrong. The edited post above is actually him.
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I've seen that as well. Surely it is fake?
Given that he's supposedly giving away an England cap to anyone who can guess his shoe size, I think the possibility cannot entirely be ruled out.
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I've seen that as well. Surely it is fake?
Got the link wrong. The edited post above is actually him.
Still think it is fake.
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Then again...
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I've seen that as well. Surely it is fake?
Got the link wrong. The edited post above is actually him.
Still think it is fake.
He posted on Insta stories that he was going to do it. And the club have tweeted about it too, so looks genuine. Can't see it ending well, or very far away.
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Then again...
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I’m following
don’t want to miss anything fake or not
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I've seen that as well. Surely it is fake?
Given that he's supposedly giving away an England cap to anyone who can guess his shoe size, I think the possibility cannot entirely be ruled out.
Well, I have a pair of his shoes where he scored a few goals in - they were a size 10 or 10½ (at my son's mothers house, so didn't look)
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I've seen that as well. Surely it is fake?
Given that he's supposedly giving away an England cap to anyone who can guess his shoe size, I think the possibility cannot entirely be ruled out.
Sounds like that Jasper Carrott sketch about Tony Butler's sports quizes on BRMB.
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It’s definitely Gabby on Twitter. I’m scared to death he’ll make a fucking bell end of himself. More than he already is.
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His Instagram story says Twitter fun for 1 day. Might be a hit and run
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He's just referred to Garde as a "dosser".
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He's just referred to Garde as a "dosser".
And a dwad?
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Check your conetract.
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Gabby's just joined Twitter. What could possibly go wrong?
He's already called Remi Garde a dosser in his first hour.
Linky (https://twitter.com/officialga11)
I can’t quite be bothered to put the bit of my brain that does chronology into gear, but surely Gabby labelling others as a dosser given his latter ‘contribution’,
makes for some very black kettles from Mr Pot.
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Which reminds me of when as a student I was a steward at Milwall at the New Den.
Having a code word ‘Would “Mr Den” please come to the control room’ etc, was never going to fool anyone.
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impressive 13400 followers in his first day
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It’s definitely Gabby on Twitter. I’m scared to death he’ll make a fucking bell end of himself. More than he already is.
First post 'Let's see what all the fun is about!'
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He's just referred to Garde as a "dosser".
Couldn't spell "Tosser" ;)
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I have been lucky enough to meet Remi Garde socially in France and my humble opinion is that he is neither Tosser nor Dosser. But what would I know about a proven French player and manager at the the highest level.
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He's just referred to Garde as a "dosser".
Wanker who partied whilst we sank like a turd. Gabby is a true dosser. Twitter is made for a waster like him.
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He's just referred to Garde as a "dosser".
Couldn't spell "Tosser" ;)
He's just referred to Garde as a "dosser".
And a dwad?
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He's just referred to Garde as a "dosser".
Couldn't spell "Tosser" ;)
He's just referred to Garde as a "dosser".
And a dwad?
Didhead.
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He's just referred to Garde as a "dosser".
Wanker who partied whilst we sank like a turd. Gabby is a true dosser. Twitter is made for a waster like him.
Wasn't it Garde's first game in charge, or maybe he was in the stand, at WHL? Where Gabby had about five touches of the ball in the first half and likes of Neville and Lampard were laughing at half time about his lack of effort. He was sporting a ridiculous gut at the time. Diabolical professional.
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Sounds like the fortune he stole during his last few years at the club might be running out and he needs to make himself relevant and get some media gigs.
I'm not sure who I dislike the most out of the mob that got us relegated, but Gabby is up there.
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Fuck off Gabby :) - I'f like to tweet that to him, but I won't be going on twitter.
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Sounds like the fortune he stole during his last few years at the club might be running out and he needs to make himself relevant and get some media gigs.
I'm not sure who I dislike the most out of the mob that got us relegated, but Gabby is up there.
Yep, agreed. I think it's partly because of the whole 'one of us' thing and that he had been such a good player for us - it affected us more when he gave up caring or trying. What a pity. He could have been well up the list of respected ex-Villa players, maybe not quite at legend status like McGrath and Sir Brian but nearly up there, and he ruined it.
I've got far more respect and time for someone like James Chester now who might not have been with us for that long or had a long-standing emotional tie to the club but gave absolutely everything he had for us while here.
As for 'dosser' if that's what he meant to call Garde, that's almost Trump standard projection after his last few years at the club. If was 'tosser'... nah, the same to be fair.
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Sounds like the fortune he stole during his last few years at the club might be running out and he needs to make himself relevant and get some media gigs.
I'm not sure who I dislike the most out of the mob that got us relegated, but Gabby is up there.
He won’t ever run out of cash. My company used to use his financial advisor and he told me it would be impossible with the investments he had made on his behalf for him to ever run out of money. His last contract he never even touched for day to day stuff it was all put into various pension pots, houses and investments etc.
He’s more likely just bored.
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Sounds like the fortune he stole during his last few years at the club might be running out and he needs to make himself relevant and get some media gigs.
I'm not sure who I dislike the most out of the mob that got us relegated, but Gabby is up there.
He won’t ever run out of cash. My company used to use his financial advisor and he told me it would be impossible with the investments he had made on his behalf for him to ever run out of money. His last contract he never even touched for day to day stuff it was all put into various pension pots, houses and investments etc.
He’s more likely just bored.
Client confidentiality out the window - would you use a Financial Advisor who spouts your private business to all and sundry. he shouldn't be anywhere near this sort of job!
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Gobby Agbonlahor .
Tweet him with if he has ever lost a Lamborghini in a bet.
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Premier League
Appearances 322
Goals 74
Assists 34
Could have been so much more.
And as for his international career made an effort I think v Germany hit the bar but faded on that front totally.
He would have been bettw off listen to houiller and Garde and not the Karoke bars of China town
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He's just referred to Garde as a "dosser".
Wanker who partied whilst we sank like a turd. Gabby is a true dosser. Twitter is made for a waster like him.
Wasn't it Garde's first game in charge, or maybe he was in the stand, at WHL? Where Gabby had about five touches of the ball in the first half and likes of Neville and Lampard were laughing at half time about his lack of effort. He was sporting a ridiculous gut at the time. Diabolical professional.
That game at Spurs was a shocker - Gabby touched the ball 5 times all game (or something like that) and 3 of them were from the restart after Spurs had scored. I think Garde's first game was the nil-nil v Man City the following week. I hate Gabby and his love handles (and has anyone else noticed that he's trying to effect a Micah Richards-style giggle in his interviews these days?) but Garde was a truly terrible appointment
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I think what you're all forgetting about Gabby, is that he really winds my Bluenose mate up.
Almost as much as Grealish does now in fact.
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He's just referred to Garde as a "dosser".
Wanker who partied whilst we sank like a turd. Gabby is a true dosser. Twitter is made for a waster like him.
Wasn't it Garde's first game in charge, or maybe he was in the stand, at WHL? Where Gabby had about five touches of the ball in the first half and likes of Neville and Lampard were laughing at half time about his lack of effort. He was sporting a ridiculous gut at the time. Diabolical professional.
That game at Spurs was a shocker - Gabby touched the ball 5 times all game (or something like that) and 3 of them were from the restart after Spurs had scored. I think Garde's first game was the nil-nil v Man City the following week. I hate Gabby and his love handles (and has anyone else noticed that he's trying to effect a Micah Richards-style giggle in his interviews these days?) but Garde was a truly terrible appointment
That Garde was horrible could also be attributed to the ilks of Gabby and Micah, who would apparently let the club fail so they could have their will.
It is an easy feat to get something to fail.
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Sounds like the fortune he stole during his last few years at the club might be running out and he needs to make himself relevant and get some media gigs.
I'm not sure who I dislike the most out of the mob that got us relegated, but Gabby is up there.
He won’t ever run out of cash. My company used to use his financial advisor and he told me it would be impossible with the investments he had made on his behalf for him to ever run out of money. His last contract he never even touched for day to day stuff it was all put into various pension pots, houses and investments etc.
He’s more likely just bored.
Client confidentiality out the window - would you use a Financial Advisor who spouts your private business to all and sundry. he shouldn't be anywhere near this sort of job!
Well he’s no longer mine, but for a completely different reason. It’s not an unknown thing about Gabby either and pretty much out there.
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Premier League
Appearances 322
Goals 74
Assists 34
Could have been so much more.
And as for his international career made an effort I think v Germany hit the bar but faded on that front totally.
He would have been bettw off listen to houiller and Garde and not the Karoke bars of China town
How many of those goals came when he was playing for an improved contract.
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He's just referred to Garde as a "dosser".
Wanker who partied whilst we sank like a turd. Gabby is a true dosser. Twitter is made for a waster like him.
Wasn't it Garde's first game in charge, or maybe he was in the stand, at WHL? Where Gabby had about five touches of the ball in the first half and likes of Neville and Lampard were laughing at half time about his lack of effort. He was sporting a ridiculous gut at the time. Diabolical professional.
That game at Spurs was a shocker - Gabby touched the ball 5 times all game (or something like that) and 3 of them were from the restart after Spurs had scored. I think Garde's first game was the nil-nil v Man City the following week. I hate Gabby and his love handles (and has anyone else noticed that he's trying to effect a Micah Richards-style giggle in his interviews these days?) but Garde was a truly terrible appointment
I remember that game in the Irish Centre before the game it was a midweek game wasn't it.
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He's just referred to Garde as a "dosser".
Wanker who partied whilst we sank like a turd. Gabby is a true dosser. Twitter is made for a waster like him.
Wasn't it Garde's first game in charge, or maybe he was in the stand, at WHL? Where Gabby had about five touches of the ball in the first half and likes of Neville and Lampard were laughing at half time about his lack of effort. He was sporting a ridiculous gut at the time. Diabolical professional.
That game at Spurs was a shocker - Gabby touched the ball 5 times all game (or something like that) and 3 of them were from the restart after Spurs had scored. I think Garde's first game was the nil-nil v Man City the following week. I hate Gabby and his love handles (and has anyone else noticed that he's trying to effect a Micah Richards-style giggle in his interviews these days?) but Garde was a truly terrible appointment
Slate him for going on the piss to Dubai, slate him for talking bullshit or being unfit - but as a striker don’t slate him for how many touches he has in a game.
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Erm. No, I won’t bite.
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Gary Lineker used to bite, he would sometimes touch the ball 15 times but score two.
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Gary Lineker used to bite, he would sometimes touch the ball 15 times but score two.
But Gabby didn’t.
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Yet remains a legend amongst many villa fans.
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The one player who could have helped us avoid the drop went missing in action through a number of wholly disgraceful and unprofessional actions and in so doing spoilt his legacy. Thanks for the goals against Blues but you were complete tool in 2015-16.
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On top of goals in derby winners scored at Anfield, Old Trafford, Emirates, WHL....all winners.....shall I continue?
Yes he was a tool relegation season but let’s not pretend Gabby only gave us derby day joy.
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He had that superb knack of scoring against Small Heath and was great for a season or two under O'Neil but personally, I won't look back at his time with a huge amount of fondness or nostalgia. He was ok, that's about it for me.
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Agreed. Bulked up too much, lost his one key attribute and was never a good enough player to make up for that. Then the bulk turned to "handles" and the effort was minimal. Truth is had we gone and signed a top striker from a position of strength under MON, the last 10 years might have been different.
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He had that superb knack of scoring against Small Heath and was great for a season or two under O'Neil but personally, I won't look back at his time with a huge amount of fondness or nostalgia. He was ok, that's about it for me.
He had the opportunity to be a Villa legend but instead will be remembered as a “what-could-of-been” His efforts in his last 5 seasons for “his club” was shameful
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He had that superb knack of scoring against Small Heath and was great for a season or two under O'Neil but personally, I won't look back at his time with a huge amount of fondness or nostalgia. He was ok, that's about it for me.
He had the opportunity to be a Villa legend but instead will be remembered as a “what-could-of-been” His efforts in his last 5 seasons for “his club” was shameful
Sums it up for me
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Gary Lineker used to bite, he would sometimes touch the ball 15 times but score two.
Per game !
That was Gabby per season.
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Gabby was a forward, not a striker.
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Gabby was a forward, not a striker.
Not really. When people make a distinction between striker and forward the forward is usually referring to a typical 10. There is no way anyone could ever describe Gabby as a 10 with a straight face. He was a striker who didn't score as many goals as he should've because he was terrible 1on1 and didn't make the best use of his pace. If he'd have learned how to finish and started making better runs behind teams he'd have been a 20-25 goal a season player and that's why so many people think of him as a waste of potential.
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Gabby was a forward, not a striker.
Not really. When people make a distinction between striker and forward the forward is usually referring to a typical 10. There is no way anyone could ever describe Gabby as a 10 with a straight face. He was a striker who didn't score as many goals as he should've because he was terrible 1on1 and didn't make the best use of his pace. If he'd have learned how to finish and started making better runs behind teams he'd have been a 20-25 goal a season player and that's why so many people think of him as a waste of potential.
Wholly agree. He also totally wasted his last 3-4 seasons.
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Gabby was a forward, not a striker.
I think it’s fair he was judged less on goals when he played more out wide if he created, but disgraced himself let us down badly. Maybe he had some mental health issues or something in which case I’d cut him some slack, otherwise his unprofessional behaviour was a figurehead of our decline.
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Yet still our record PL too scorer.
Not bad for a fat, lazy forward.
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Yet still our record PL too scorer.
Not bad for a fat, lazy forward.
Think that shows more how poor a club we have been in the Premier era rather than how good Gabby ever was.
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Gabby was a forward, not a striker.
I think it’s fair he was judged less on goals when he played more out wide if he created, but disgraced himself let us down badly. Maybe he had some mental health issues or something in which case I’d cut him some slack, otherwise his unprofessional behaviour was a figurehead of our decline.
I think he's typical of a lot of young footballers who lack the all round intelligence to realise how lucky they are, and that it's a short career that isn't going to last forever.
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Yet still our record PL too scorer.
Not bad for a fat, lazy forward.
Think that shows more how poor a club we have been in the Premier era rather than how good Gabby ever was.
PL Runners up, top four 3 years running, 2 league cup wins, 2 league cup runners up, 2 fa cup runners up, 10 European campaigns at least, top 6 3 years running ....shocking.
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Yet still our record PL too scorer.
Not bad for a fat, lazy forward.
Think that shows more how poor a club we have been in the Premier era rather than how good Gabby ever was.
PL Runners up, top four 3 years running, 2 league cup wins, 2 league cup runners up, 2 fa cup runners up, 10 European campaigns at least, top 6 3 years running ....shocking.
We didn't finish top four three years running but until we got relegated we were something like the fifth or sixth highest points scorers. We've been many things but definitely not consistently poor since 1992.
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The point is he was a fast aggressive forward that lacked finesse but was effective and scored some memorable goals.
Then he lost the plot and became a lazy overpaid idiot.
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Yet still our record PL too scorer.
Not bad for a fat, lazy forward.
Think that shows more how poor a club we have been in the Premier era rather than how good Gabby ever was.
PL Runners up, top four 3 years running, 2 league cup wins, 2 league cup runners up, 2 fa cup runners up, 10 European campaigns at least, top 6 3 years running ....shocking.
We didn't finish top four three years running but until we got relegated we were something like the fifth or sixth highest points scorers. We've been many things but definitely not consistently poor since 1992.
I stand corrected Dave, I was trying to embellish on 4 top 6 finishes 96-00.....
Point is, outside Chelski, Man Ure, Liverrplop, Arse, Man £ity theres
No other club has had a better PL era including cups.
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Yet still our record PL too scorer.
Not bad for a fat, lazy forward.
Think that shows more how poor a club we have been in the Premier era rather than how good Gabby ever was.
PL Runners up, top four 3 years running, 2 league cup wins, 2 league cup runners up, 2 fa cup runners up, 10 European campaigns at least, top 6 3 years running ....shocking.
Ok , I'll rephrase .... It shows how poor weve been as a club since gabby became 1st team regular.
He was poor, 60odd league goals over 13/14 seasons for a forward is piss poor. But he scored against blues.
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Yep, he's our top scorer because of longevity, not strike rate, which is considerably worse than Savo, Benteke etc. Totti he ain't.
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Let it go, he’s out all time PL scorer, however you try to work out pro-rota.
The season with big Jon will still be legendary, his derby goals and beating Man Ure at mould Trafford will alone live in the memory.
Don’t hate.
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There's no hate, just people who don't think he's a legend or wasn't as good as he could have been.
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Let it go, he’s out all time PL scorer, however you try to work out pro-rota.
The season with big Jon will still be legendary, his derby goals and beating Man Ure at mould Trafford will alone live in the memory.
Don’t hate.
Bing Bong
Pot calling Mr Kettle to the Keinan Davis thread, thats Mr Kettle to the Keinan Davis thread
Bing Bong
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Let it go, he’s out all time PL scorer, however you try to work out pro-rota.
The season with big Jon will still be legendary, his derby goals and beating Man Ure at mould Trafford will alone live in the memory.
Don’t hate.
I dont hate.
I just think he's a cnut for the way he mugged us fans & the club off for the last half a dozen yrs of his time here.
Be interesting to see how we wouldve done if the likes of him & Richard's wernt about the club 5 yrs or so ago.
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Let it go, he’s out all time PL scorer, however you try to work out pro-rota.
The season with big Jon will still be legendary, his derby goals and beating Man Ure at mould Trafford will alone live in the memory.
Don’t hate.
Bing Bong
Pot calling Mr Kettle to the Keinan Davis thread, thats Mr Kettle to the Keinan Davis thread
Bing Bong
How many goals has Davis scored?
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Measured against how much xenophobic, dressing room dividing I'll take Davis every time.
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There's no hate, just people who don't think he's a legend or wasn't as good as he could have been.
Neither was the service. I think most forwards would have given up given the way we played especially in our relegation season.
Legend? No. On his day, unplayable but needed service and a striking partner as he never had the technical ability to play all season without one.
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We can all be disappointed in how it all ended and it clouds our judgement. But find some time to watch some of the goals he scored early on and Gabby had a lot of what makes a top forward. Blistering pace. Could score with both feet. Really very good in the air for someone of his height. Not the best at one on one and something he should have improved but he did have a few of those goals too. As he developed he became stronger and much harder to knock off the ball. He took that too far though and it affected his primary attribute. But he was a really exciting and influential player for us for a number of years and his moment in the sun was in the MON years. You could probably mark his and the clubs decline from the time MON left.
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I always thought during those years under MON and was quite often played out wide he worked very very hard for the cause and would put a decent shift in.
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There's no hate, just people who don't think he's a legend or wasn't as good as he could have been.
Indeed.
He did stay at the club at least five years too long, mind.
Whoever advocated that final contract must have been on the magic mushrooms.
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I always thought during those years under MON and was quite often played out wide he worked very very hard for the cause and would put a decent shift in.
he did. He worked really hard and he wasn't the lazy bastard he ultimately became. It's also why Ash is one og my all time favourite players. As much as for his ability in attack he worked so hard tracking back.
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The decline in his workrate symbolised our decline as a club that gave a shit. I don't blame him as such, but that's the truth of it.
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I think he improved year on year under MON, was one of the best forwards in the league and deservedly played for England, but lost his way badly. To be fair he was still an important player in the escape under Lambert. Couple of crucial goals at Norwich I seem to recall. He stole a living from the club last few years though. Appalling attitude for a senior player and fan. The Blues derby goal in 2017 was comedy gold but no more than that. Shouldn't have still been at the club then.
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There's no hate, just people who don't think he's a legend or wasn't as good as he could have been.
Indeed.
He did stay at the club at least five years too long, mind.
Whoever advocated that final contract must have been on the magic mushrooms.
There’s tons who value him as a legend .
Depends on where your era was at I suppose.
Fact remains he’s still or top PL scorer however we spin it.
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There's no hate, just people who don't think he's a legend or wasn't as good as he could have been.
Indeed.
He did stay at the club at least five years too long, mind.
Whoever advocated that final contract must have been on the magic mushrooms.
There’s tons who value him as a legend .
Depends on where your era was at I suppose.
Fact remains he’s still or top PL scorer however we spin it.
Tallest dwarf territory though. Steve Staunton is 20th on the list, with 13 goals.
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All a bit raking over old coals again this, but I've said before that he's singularly responsible for many of my greatest Villa memories.
I also couldn't wait to see the back of the ear-cupping twunt by the time he officially fucked off.
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Well at least we don’t have to endure any Davis ear
Cupping goal celebrations.
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There's no hate, just people who don't think he's a legend or wasn't as good as he could have been.
Indeed.
He did stay at the club at least five years too long, mind.
Whoever advocated that final contract must have been on the magic mushrooms.
There’s tons who value him as a legend .
Depends on where your era was at I suppose.
Fact remains he’s still or top PL scorer however we spin it.
Tallest dwarf territory though. Steve Staunton is 20th on the list, with 13 goals.
Stans a legend.
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Well at least we don’t have to endure any Davis ear
Cupping goal celebrations.
Let it go.
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Well at least we don’t have to endure any Davis ear
Cupping goal celebrations.
Let it go.
Exactly the words for the Gabby haters.
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Since the 2010-11 season he got 30 league goals in 186 appearances. I'd say that was a poor return.
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Very convenient to use stats in a shocking period with a poor team - where was the service- and yet still scored crucial survival goals - Norwich away, Reading away.
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Agbonlahor was, and remains, popular with a section of our support for two reasons - Small Heath hated him and he had a sweary word in his song.
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Well at least we don’t have to endure any Davis ear
Cupping goal celebrations.
Let it go.
Exactly the words for the Gabby haters.
I think you are getting confused with 'haters' and 'not fans of' but I guess you already know that.
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Scroll back at the abuse Gabby took and see if it’s not “fans of”.
He did him self no favours with us relegation season but the abuse he took by the few cyber warriors was out of order.
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You'd know all about that sort of thing.
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Scroll back at the abuse Gabby took and see if it’s not “fans of”.
He did him self no favours with us relegation season but the abuse he took by the few cyber warriors was out of order.
If they were cyber warriors he wouldn't have taken any of it not having seen or heard it.
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He had potential, hung around a good while and was clearly part of the decline. How much of it could be down to him is anyone's guess but the reality is if he'd applied himself to every match the way he did against the Blues we'd have been in much better shape and his goal-scoring record would be infinitely better.
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The goal at Arsenal is my favourite, he made a top class centre half in Gallas look like Steve Simms.
At that point he had the potential to be a great player but it turned out to be his peak, all downhill from there.
The derby goal mentioned earlier though, I don't think I've ever celebrated a goal with so much laughter.
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It seemed to go wrong when he discovered the gym. Lost his pace and energy.
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It seemed to go wrong when he discovered the gym. Lost his pace and energy.
That's a good point. He seemed to get stuck into the weights one summer, and came back noticeably beefed up. Don't think it suited his game to be honest.
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It's not as if it made him hold the ball up better either.
Just seemed to blunt his main attribute.
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Holding the ball up is a prerequisite for a forward these days, goals and assists are not required.
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And another veiled reference...
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It seemed to go wrong when he discovered the gym. Lost his pace and energy.
it appeared he then lost motivation, effort and work rate in later years too.
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Millions In the bank can do that - so sad he went out like that.
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He could have buggered off five years before he did, and he'd still be our record Premier League signing and the memory of him would be a lot less tarnished.
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This 💯.
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This 💯.
Don't get me wrong, I couldn't give less of a fuck, but how long do you intend hanging around on the wind?
It's starting to get a bit monotonous.
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I always wondered if Gabby's popularity (both actual and perceived) deterred some of our weaker managers from taking a harder stance with him as his performances dipped. Would a semi-retired Houllier, an overpromoted McLeish or an unsupported and clearly increasingly pressurised Lambert want the grief of alienating a 'club legend'?
Reminds me on a much lower level of the current state of Barcelona. If a player, or group of players, feel that they're not only more powerful but more popular than the manager, that can never end well.
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It seemed to go wrong when he discovered the gym. Lost his pace and energy.
That's a good point. He seemed to get stuck into the weights one summer, and came back noticeably beefed up. Don't think it suited his game to be honest.
Just a question. How many children did Gabby father with how many different girls during this timeframe , resulting in him having to set them up in homes in Streetly or elsewhere ? How much of a distraction was that ? At the same time as has been said we’ve not had one sustained period of strong management at the club where someone has taken him aside and read him the riot act , took him under their wing and tried to give him some steer of the positive kind.
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We can all be disappointed in how it all ended and it clouds our judgement. But find some time to watch some of the goals he scored early on and Gabby had a lot of what makes a top forward. Blistering pace. Could score with both feet. Really very good in the air for someone of his height. Not the best at one on one and something he should have improved but he did have a few of those goals too. As he developed he became stronger and much harder to knock off the ball. He took that too far though and it affected his primary attribute. But he was a really exciting and influential player for us for a number of years and his moment in the sun was in the MON years. You could probably mark his and the clubs decline from the time MON left.
This summarises Gabbys time at villa really well for me. I’d add that in his really good early seasons he mostly had a class act in John Carew playing alongside him and they formed a really decent partnership. Benteke was a different player to Carew and Gabbys decline had already started, lots of players have gone that way. He was one of a raft of problems in the relegation year and yes he lost interest, but he’s not the only multi millionaire football player that’s done that, doesn’t make it right, but I don’t hate the bloke, bit OTT to me. He pissed me off in 2015/2016 and then I just rolled my eyes after that, but also gave me some top memories, not just blues, Man U away being the main one.
Not in the same class as Shaw, Withe, Saunders, Atkinson, Yorke, Regis, Carew etc From my era going down VP
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I choose to remember the good Gabby. Good Gabby scored some of the best celebrated goals in my Villa following career and for that I'm grateful.
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We can all be disappointed in how it all ended and it clouds our judgement. But find some time to watch some of the goals he scored early on and Gabby had a lot of what makes a top forward. Blistering pace. Could score with both feet. Really very good in the air for someone of his height. Not the best at one on one and something he should have improved but he did have a few of those goals too. As he developed he became stronger and much harder to knock off the ball. He took that too far though and it affected his primary attribute. But he was a really exciting and influential player for us for a number of years and his moment in the sun was in the MON years. You could probably mark his and the clubs decline from the time MON left.
This summarises Gabbys time at villa really well for me. I’d add that in his really good early seasons he mostly had a class act in John Carew playing alongside him and they formed a really decent partnership. Benteke was a different player to Carew and Gabbys decline had already started, lots of players have gone that way. He was one of a raft of problems in the relegation year and yes he lost interest, but he’s not the only multi millionaire football player that’s done that, doesn’t make it right, but I don’t hate the bloke, bit OTT to me. He pissed me off in 2015/2016 and then I just rolled my eyes after that, but also gave me some top memories, not just blues, Man U away being the main one.
Not in the same class as Shaw, Withe, Saunders, Atkinson, Yorke, Regis, Carew etc From my era going down VP
This sums it up, i don't hate Gabby but I don't think he's anywhere near the club legend status some think he deserves.
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All about perception isn’t it? On his day, unplayable. Unfortunately those days became few and far between. He was class for a couple of seasons, but the manner of the decline and lack of application together with his attitude towards the end leaves a bitter taste.
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I always wondered if Gabby's popularity (both actual and perceived) deterred some of our weaker managers from taking a harder stance with him as his performances dipped.
It's a good point.
I think Houllier had his number fairly early on and, had his health issues not reemerged, would have binned Gabby, Dunne and Collins that summer.
Garde was also wise to him a few years later and Di Matteo didn't even want him near the squad. But the boof merchants were delusional enough to think they might still get a tune out of him and were perhaps wary of fan fury.
It's odd that he still has it in for Garde after all this time. Garde's first match watching us was Spurs away, the infamous game where the Gabbster touched the ball about six times including three times for the kick off. Later that same season Paddy Power ran a funny (but painful) meme about the tosser having more yellow cards than goals.
John Carew can probably say that Houllier had it in for him and scuppered his final year or so with us. Gabby can't really say that about Garde. Which makes it all the more odd that (a) he still bangs on about it and (b) the club let him film this j'accuse rubbish in and around Villa Park.
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the reason most think that he deserves the accolade of a club legend - is due to the goals that he scored against that lot from Small Heath
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A local lad, dreamed of playing at Villa, succeeded and was pretty decent too. Came from the youth set up and stuck with the team for many years. Yes, he faded towards the end, but the first part of the story is why I believe many have the thoughts of him being a legend - his story is one of fantasy for many/most football fans, so to achieve it (and for us to witness it) is impressive. I think it's easy to be down on him for the way things tailed off, but overall, he was a great player.
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A local lad, dreamed of playing at Villa, succeeded and was pretty decent too. Came from the youth set up and stuck with the team for many years. Yes, he faded towards the end, but the first part of the story is why I believe many have the thoughts of him being a legend - his story is one of fantasy for many/most football fans, so to achieve it (and for us to witness it) is impressive. I think it's easy to be down on him for the way things tailed off, but overall, he was a great player.
Your opinion is as valid as anyone but he wasn't nearly great enough. He doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as true Villa greats. I'm not just on about his lamentable attitude but about his playing ability.
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A local lad, dreamed of playing at Villa, succeeded and was pretty decent too. Came from the youth set up and stuck with the team for many years. Yes, he faded towards the end, but the first part of the story is why I believe many have the thoughts of him being a legend - his story is one of fantasy for many/most football fans, so to achieve it (and for us to witness it) is impressive. I think it's easy to be down on him for the way things tailed off, but overall, he was a great player.
Your opinion is as valid as anyone but he wasn't nearly great enough. He doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as true Villa greats. I'm not just on about his lamentable attitude but about his playing ability.
Indeed - not saying that he should be classed as legend necessarily, just it's understandable why so many perhaps think this way. His story is rare and to have witnessed it means many of us have been along for the ride - maybe that means there's a little more personal attachment for some which could sway opinion in his favour.
I stand by the 'great player' though - not 'one of the greats', but a great player on his day and the team benefitted plenty from his inclusion.
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A local lad, dreamed of playing at Villa, succeeded and was pretty decent too. Came from the youth set up and stuck with the team for many years. Yes, he faded towards the end, but the first part of the story is why I believe many have the thoughts of him being a legend - his story is one of fantasy for many/most football fans, so to achieve it (and for us to witness it) is impressive. I think it's easy to be down on him for the way things tailed off, but overall, he was a great player.
He was/ is an Arsenal fan.
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A local lad, dreamed of playing at Villa, succeeded and was pretty decent too. Came from the youth set up and stuck with the team for many years. Yes, he faded towards the end, but the first part of the story is why I believe many have the thoughts of him being a legend - his story is one of fantasy for many/most football fans, so to achieve it (and for us to witness it) is impressive. I think it's easy to be down on him for the way things tailed off, but overall, he was a great player.
He was/ is an Arsenal fan.
Reminded me that there was a giant inflatable dildo with a picture of Gabby's face on it being lofted over Villa fans' heads during our final Premier League game at Arsenal.
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I've been watching a lot of MON-era highlights and, while Gabby was at times unplayable, there's no doubt in my mind that he wasn't quite at the same level as Carew, let alone Barry, Milner, Petrov, Young or Laursen. He was good, but he was good in a side of really excellent players - especially, I have say, Ashley Young, who I remembered being good, but looking back was fucking exceptional.
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Even in games where Ashley Young was quiet/ poor (particularly his last season) he could still provide 2/3 moments of quality to turn a game.
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I didn't like him towards the end of his career. I do now. He's like an ex-girlfriend that pissed you off at the time but was basically a good sort.
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Even in games where Ashley Young was quiet/ poor (particularly his last season) he could still provide 2/3 moments of quality to turn a game.
Young was a brilliant player for us, take away the odd silly dive and some poor choices when he came back to play against us and he'd be much closer to club legend status than Gabby, in my opinion.
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Have a look at the video on the previous and try tell me he wasn’t a great striker. If he isn’t a great player then what can we say about the current dross we have up front. Gabby was 100 x better than Wes and Samatta. How standards have slipped.
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A great player is a bit ott.
He was good in spells, no doubting that - under one manager, when motivated.
Great players do it for longer and more than he did - and don't fail to get a club at 31.
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Gabby was a one in almost five striker, who got into double figures in the league three times in his career. Wes has played half a season for us in our first year back, in an inferior team that were not familiar with each other, and has a better goals per game record than him.
He might have been created great moments, but he was not a great striker.
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Have a look at the video on the previous and try tell me he wasn’t a great striker. If he isn’t a great player then what can we say about the current dross we have up front. Gabby was 100 x better than Wes and Samatta. How standards have slipped.
Take a minute to think about the strikers we've had since the premier league started. Based purely on what they did in a villa shirt I'd say we've had 2 genuinely great strikers in Yorke and Benteke and a handful of very good strikers (Saunders, Atkinson, Dublin, Angel, Carew). I'd struggle to put Gabby in that group but he'd probably be next on the list for me, so 8th best striker at the club in the premier league era.
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Have a look at the video on the previous and try tell me he wasn’t a great striker. If he isn’t a great player then what can we say about the current dross we have up front. Gabby was 100 x better than Wes and Samatta. How standards have slipped.
Take a minute to think about the strikers we've had since the premier league started. Based purely on what they did in a villa shirt I'd say we've had 2 genuinely great strikers in Yorke and Benteke and a handful of very good strikers (Saunders, Atkinson, Dublin, Angel, Carew). I'd struggle to put Gabby in that group but he'd probably be next on the list for me, so 8th best striker at the club in the premier league era.
Darren Bent for a year before the injury.
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Have a look at the video on the previous and try tell me he wasn’t a great striker. If he isn’t a great player then what can we say about the current dross we have up front. Gabby was 100 x better than Wes and Samatta. How standards have slipped.
Take a minute to think about the strikers we've had since the premier league started. Based purely on what they did in a villa shirt I'd say we've had 2 genuinely great strikers in Yorke and Benteke and a handful of very good strikers (Saunders, Atkinson, Dublin, Angel, Carew). I'd struggle to put Gabby in that group but he'd probably be next on the list for me, so 8th best striker at the club in the premier league era.
Darren Bent for a year before the injury.
I considered him but all the others (including Gabby) were good for a few seasons. Vassell would be next on my list and then Bent. After that you get quite quickly to some very average players.
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He could have buggered off five years before he did, and he'd still be our record Premier League signing and the memory of him would be a lot less tarnished.
Why he got a new 3 year contract when he was obviously past it I'll never know. Paul lambert got one at about the same time which was equally silly.
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I don't see how we can criticise Wesley, Samatta, Davis for a lack of goals and then describe Gabby with a 1 in 5 record and managing 10 in a season 3 times in his whole career with a highest tally of 13 as a great striker.
Lineker, Owen, Shearer with 1 in 2 records hitting 25-30 goals in a season were great strikers. Gabby was at his best a good player whose pace was effective to stretch teams and who gave us some great moments and scored some important goals. He was never a great striker.
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Have a look at the video on the previous and try tell me he wasn’t a great striker. If he isn’t a great player then what can we say about the current dross we have up front. Gabby was 100 x better than Wes and Samatta. How standards have slipped.
Take a minute to think about the strikers we've had since the premier league started. Based purely on what they did in a villa shirt I'd say we've had 2 genuinely great strikers in Yorke and Benteke and a handful of very good strikers (Saunders, Atkinson, Dublin, Angel, Carew). I'd struggle to put Gabby in that group but he'd probably be next on the list for me, so 8th best striker at the club in the premier league era.
Darren Bent for a year before the injury.
I considered him but all the others (including Gabby) were good for a few seasons. Vassell would be next on my list and then Bent. After that you get quite quickly to some very average players.
On what they did for Villa I reckon Joachim could make a good case for himself ahead of Vassell or Bent.
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I think you can be a 1 in 3 striker and be great if you bring more than just goals (Think of people like Cantona and Bergkamp) but generally I agree if they play regularly and don't hit double figures season after season then it's a big stretch to describe them as great, which is why I think only Yorke and Benteke pushed up to that level.
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He could have buggered off five years before he did, and he'd still be our record Premier League signing and the memory of him would be a lot less tarnished.
Why he got a new 3 year contract when he was obviously past it I'll never know. Paul lambert got one at about the same time which was equally silly.
That was a huge mistake. Think we started that season ok and the board made some desperate decisions as a result.
Gabby had a burst of form on the left wing in 12/13 and start of 13/14 where he was outstanding and was called into the England setup (if I recall rightly he didn't bother showing up). After that he stole a living at the clubs expense until his retirement.
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He could have buggered off five years before he did, and he'd still be our record Premier League signing and the memory of him would be a lot less tarnished.
Why he got a new 3 year contract when he was obviously past it I'll never know. Paul lambert got one at about the same time which was equally silly.
That was a huge mistake. Think we started that season ok and the board made some desperate decisions as a result.
Gabby had a burst of form on the left wing in 12/13 and start of 13/14 where he was outstanding and was called into the England setup (if I recall rightly he didn't bother showing up). After that he stole a living at the clubs expense until his retirement.
i think he liked playing off a big man, all his good performances were alongside Carew or Benteke.
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then he decided to be the big man and that was the beginning of the end....
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He could have buggered off five years before he did, and he'd still be our record Premier League signing and the memory of him would be a lot less tarnished.
Why he got a new 3 year contract when he was obviously past it I'll never know. Paul lambert got one at about the same time which was equally silly.
That was a huge mistake. Think we started that season ok and the board made some desperate decisions as a result.
Gabby had a burst of form on the left wing in 12/13 and start of 13/14 where he was outstanding and was called into the England setup (if I recall rightly he didn't bother showing up). After that he stole a living at the clubs expense until his retirement.
i think he liked playing off a big man, all his good performances were alongside Carew or Benteke.
In his younger days he led the line brilliantly at times by himself, Arsenal and Man United away, cup final again v Man United come to mind. Never got the required consistent goal return though. Even at his best his footballing ability was quite limited though but his pace was frightening. Why he decided to bulk up to an extreme amount, against MONs wishes, is anyone's guess.
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He could have buggered off five years before he did, and he'd still be our record Premier League signing and the memory of him would be a lot less tarnished.
Why he got a new 3 year contract when he was obviously past it I'll never know. Paul lambert got one at about the same time which was equally silly.
That was a huge mistake. Think we started that season ok and the board made some desperate decisions as a result.
Gabby had a burst of form on the left wing in 12/13 and start of 13/14 where he was outstanding and was called into the England setup (if I recall rightly he didn't bother showing up). After that he stole a living at the clubs expense until his retirement.
i think he liked playing off a big man, all his good performances were alongside Carew or Benteke.
He looked really good at the very start coming inside off the wing, with him and Luke Moore either side of Angel.
Admittedly, only lasted about six weeks.
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He could have buggered off five years before he did, and he'd still be our record Premier League signing and the memory of him would be a lot less tarnished.
Why he got a new 3 year contract when he was obviously past it I'll never know. Paul lambert got one at about the same time which was equally silly.
That was a huge mistake. Think we started that season ok and the board made some desperate decisions as a result.
Gabby had a burst of form on the left wing in 12/13 and start of 13/14 where he was outstanding and was called into the England setup (if I recall rightly he didn't bother showing up). After that he stole a living at the clubs expense until his retirement.
i think he liked playing off a big man, all his good performances were alongside Carew or Benteke.
He looked really good at the very start coming inside off the wing, with him and Luke Moore either side of Angel.
Admittedly, only lasted about six weeks.
that trio looked great for a while and was more like the shape we want to be playing now with 2 strikers playing either side of someone playing as a 10/false 9.
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It’s funny he scored against the great unwashed so often. But largely forgettable. And large at the end.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ULt0WyXabvU
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ULt0WyXabvU
He is going to have a hell of a problem living that down.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ULt0WyXabvU
He is going to have a hell of a problem living that down.
https://www.sixfiguresofficial.com/ his fashion brand...it got worse
How’s Chicago? Is the globe trying to show the games? Nyc is a bit of mess right now. As for the football peacock won’t stream via Roku or amazon fire which is a pain (previously nbc gold was a steal at $50 a year but they’ve now got into an argument with amazon and roku on royalties).
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https://www.sixfiguresofficial.com/ his fashion brand...it got worse
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Nice. I wonder if the models were deliberately told to mimic the same brooding but gormless pout that Gabby perfected.
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Haha
Profile photo, opens profile page on Twitter in a new tab
Gabriel Agbonlahor
@officialga11
Can you give villa the same energy you give Leeds during commentary pls @SkySports thanks 👍🏾
10:22 PM · Sep 30, 2020
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I've just posted this on the Leeds thread: ' If he keeps going like this I might just change my mind'.
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I'm not on Twitter, but someone tell him to pour white wine on it.
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Why's it called 6 figures? A tribute to his Villa salary for bankrolling it? The number of minutes between scoring in his last 3 seasons?
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Why's it called 6 figures? A tribute to his Villa salary for bankrolling it? The number of minutes between scoring in his last 3 seasons?
He couldn't spell fingers.
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I've just put SSN on and notice from the strap across the bottom that Gabby will be in the studio this afternoon on the transfer fest. I hope he shoves it up 'em.
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I've just put SSN on and notice from the strap across the bottom that Gabby will be in the studio this afternoon on the transfer fest. I hope he shoves it up 'em.
Better put the subtitles on.
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Gabby comes across very eloquently and clear on talk sport.
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Nice to see Gabby presenting shirts to those serving their communities.
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Well, this should be good...
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Nice to see Gabby presenting shirts to those serving their communities.
Yep, apart from that Bourne twat.
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Nice to see Gabby presenting shirts to those serving their communities.
Yep, apart from that Bourne twat.
haha
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he certainly bangs the drum for us and all things Villa does Gabby
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Gabby has been very good on TS and calls things as he sees it. Certainly when defending us. I don't think he has embarrassed himself at all or us. And I like that he has continued to do work in the community.
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Nice to see Gabby presenting shirts to those serving their communities.
Yep, apart from that Bourne twat.
Hello Mr_Doops, thanks for the follow....
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Happy Birthday Gabby.
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See Bamford quoted the myth statement in his interview. Thanks Gabby.
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See Bamford quoted the myth statement in his interview. Thanks Gabby.
Yep, Gabby did himself, and us, no favours at all with all that Leeds-Bielsa-myht stuff. He's been on TalkSport a bit recently, so I suspect his advisors are trying to get him to be a bit more controversial so he keeps getting asked back. There'll be more of this I think.
He was on Sky Sports News last night during the game, and you could see him physically deflate as the second half wore on. He looked like he was telling us about a pet that had died as he described the third goal.
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He went on a fishing expedition to boost his ‘outspoken’ status on TS. What he said was bollocks then and it’s bollocks now. He made himself look a fool and not for the first time. I’m not interested in his view on anything quite frankly.
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He's a moron, and he's always been a moron.
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The man’s an idiot with too much time on his hands who’s just handed the opposition extra motivation - and what he said about Leeds was bollocks, relegation candidates my backside.
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He went on a fishing expedition to boost his ‘outspoken’ status on TS. What he said was bollocks then and it’s bollocks now. He made himself look a fool and not for the first time. I’m not interested in his view on anything quite frankly.
Gobbing off is the sort of thing the Noses do in the build up to playing us, and it always blows up in their faces.
Leeds were superb last night, but you'll struggle to find a team that works harder for 90 minutes they did. Shame Agbonlahor didn't put in that application in the latter years of his Villa career
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He's a moron, and he's always been a moron.
This. I wish he'd fuck off to Jupiter.
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He's a moron, and he's always been a moron.
This. I wish he'd fuck off to Jupiter.
He’s not exactly representing us well. I guess if he’s linked to talk sport now he’s ideal for them. Say idiotic things and get a big response.
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He's a moron, and he's always been a moron.
This. I wish he'd fuck off to Jupiter.
He’s not exactly representing us well. I guess if he’s linked to talk sport now he’s ideal for them. Say idiotic things and get a big response.
I'd send that radio station to Jupiter too, mate. Who's that dickhead on there? Durham? An appalling man.
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well done Gabby.
Consistently shite since MON walked out.
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Talksport is fucking awful.
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People may not agree with hosts such as Durham on talk sport but calling him an “appalling man” is totally OTT and slightly worrying.
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People may not agree with hosts such as Durham on talk sport but calling him an “appalling man” is totally OTT and slightly worrying.
unless the person saying it actually knows him as a person
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Fair point, I’m guessing however the poster doesn’t know him.
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People may not agree with hosts such as Durham on talk sport but calling him an “appalling man” is totally OTT and slightly worrying.
It might be worrying for you. It isn't worrying for me. I'll rephrase it for you; Durham is a ******, and yes, I know him.
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he’s better on the telly and radio than I ever thought he would be to be honest
I also like that he hasn’t got or wants a blue tick
when Gabby was at the height of his powers I was never his biggest fan
he gave us some good moments especially against Blues but I never thought he was as good as others claimed
so I’m not biased in his favour but I think he’s done ok since going into the media side of things
oh and I don’t give a toss about his post about Bielsa
(and I think Bielsa is a fantastic manager one if the best in the prem)
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he’s better on the telly and radio than I ever thought he would be to be honest
I also like that he hasn’t got or wants a blue tick
when Gabby was at the height of his powers I was never his biggest fan
he gave us some good moments especially against Blues but I never thought he was as good as others claimed
so I’m not biased in his favour but I think he’s done ok since going into the media side of things
oh and I don’t give a toss about his post about Bielsa
(and I think Bielsa is a fantastic manager one if the best in the prem)
Seconded
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People may not agree with hosts such as Durham on talk sport but calling him an “appalling man” is totally OTT and slightly worrying.
It might be worrying for you. It isn't worrying for me. I'll rephrase it for you; Durham is a ******, and yes, I know him.
Ditto mate. He suits that radio station to perfection, the utter cock.
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what always makes me laugh about Talk Sport is people saying it’s shit and never listen to it
Yet know everything about what the presenters have said and done on it
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what always makes me laugh about Talk Sport is people saying it’s shit and never listen to it
Yet know everything about what the presenters have said and done on it
Social media....
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TS is there to antagonize. So if you get upset by the viewpoints/content/presenters then they are doing their job. The worst kind of press is no press.
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George Gavin said that his job was to make the switchboard light up. Apart from the technology nothing's changed.
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he’s better on the telly and radio than I ever thought he would be to be honest
I also like that he hasn’t got or wants a blue tick
when Gabby was at the height of his powers I was never his biggest fan
he gave us some good moments especially against Blues but I never thought he was as good as others claimed
so I’m not biased in his favour but I think he’s done ok since going into the media side of things
oh and I don’t give a toss about his post about Bielsa
(and I think Bielsa is a fantastic manager one if the best in the prem)
I’m with you on this, when I’m working from home I’ll vary between 6 music and some self harm for the eardrums with TS. Whilst Gabbys comments this week have made him look a bit silly, he’s been quite ok whenever I’ve heard him, and bigs up villa constantly, which is nice to hear on a national station obsessed with Man U, Liverpool and spurs.
I too am non plussed either way with Him so not saying this as any great fan of Gabby. Thought he was a very good player for a few years and then he wasn’t. As a person don’t know him, I do have a mate whose kid plays or played in the same Sunday team as one of Gabbys kids and he’s said whenever he was at the kids games he just came across as a normal bloke, chatting with the other parents, no airs and graces, bought all the kids in the team new boots without any fuss.
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...bought all the kids in the team new boots without any fuss.
That's a really nice thing to do, to give him his dues.
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The interviewers love him as he's turning into a right rent a quote, I cringe every time he opens his mouth.
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He was on the Luke live lounge on Villa View after West Ham. I thought he spoke well and was quite insightful. He mentioned he had reservations about doing media work because of his brummie accent. Still obviously snobbery I’m the industry. AlanSmith has always had work though maybe that’s changed in last 14 years since I was in UK?
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The interviewers love him as he's turning into a right rent a quote, I cringe every time he opens his mouth.
Then why listen?
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I know he turned into a bit of a cock towards the end but he was a one man one club servant for us and our highest Premier league goal scorer.
I do like the fact that we have "one of our own" in a world of Liverpool, FuckingUnited, London centric media wankers
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I know he turned into a bit of a cock towards the end but he was a one man one club servant for us and our highest Premier league goal scorer.
I do like the fact that we have "one of our own" in a world of Liverpool, FuckingUnited, London centric media wankers
I have been very disparaging about Gabby in the past but I agree with all your points Hookey
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I know he turned into a bit of a cock towards the end but he was a one man one club servant for us and our highest Premier league goal scorer.
I do like the fact that we have "one of our own" in a world of Liverpool, FuckingUnited, London centric media wankers
Definitely marked down a couple of weeks ago by answering on a TS quiz about Villa that he thought we had only won the FA Cup twice.
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Well done Gabby
https://twitter.com/talksport/status/1336767332635582464?s=21
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Well done Gabby
https://twitter.com/talksport/status/1336767332635582464?s=21
Great work by Gabby. He seems to be trying to do something positive with his life after football. Pity some of the comments on there are just repulsive.
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Fair fucks to him. He's blossoming as a person, getting involved with worthwhile causes and becoming more articulate and confident as somebody in the public eye. (Reading back, that don't 'alf sound patronising but is meant with sincerity)
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He's surprisingly not the worst pundit in the world when I've heard him on Talksport.
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Yes surprisingly he is actually pretty good and refreshingly candid.
On Gabby as a person we all know and probably does too that he let the club and fans down. And he can’t turn back the clock. I’m sure he is delighted that we are doing well and the club isn’t the gong show it was when he played. But he has always been involved with Acorns. And it’s great to see him becoming an ambassador for the club in charitable work. He’s never had to do it and he certainly doesn’t have to do it now. But I think he’s trying to make amends in a way back in the community and for that he should be commended.
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Yes surprisingly he is actually pretty good and refreshingly candid.
On Gabby as a person we all know and probably does too that he let the club and fans down. And he can’t turn back the clock. I’m sure he is delighted that we are doing well and the club isn’t the gong show it was when he played. But he has always been involved with Acorns. And it’s great to see him becoming an ambassador for the club in charitable work. He’s never had to do it and he certainly doesn’t have to do it now. But I think he’s trying to make amends in a way back in the community and for that he should be commended.
Agree TV, never too late to make amends
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Yes surprisingly he is actually pretty good and refreshingly candid.
On Gabby as a person we all know and probably does too that he let the club and fans down. And he can’t turn back the clock. I’m sure he is delighted that we are doing well and the club isn’t the gong show it was when he played. But he has always been involved with Acorns. And it’s great to see him becoming an ambassador for the club in charitable work. He’s never had to do it and he certainly doesn’t have to do it now. But I think he’s trying to make amends in a way back in the community and for that he should be commended.
Didn't he donate quietly £200,000 to Acorns a few years back? I'll always have a soft spot for Gabby the man and player. People moan about his last few seasons with us but he was starved of service. He doesn't need to make amends, we just need to remember it wasn't just a shit time for supporters..
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I like him more as a pundit than I did as a player
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Deleted his Twitter account apparently because all of those brave motherf***ers sending his racial abuse.
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Didn't he donate quietly £200,000 to Acorns a few years back? I'll always have a soft spot for Gabby the man and player. People moan about his last few seasons with us but he was starved of service. He doesn't need to make amends, we just need to remember it wasn't just a shit time for supporters..
Yep, I'm the same. Think it must've been a challenge for anyone really to go from an England player & on the brink of Champions League football with the club you support, then just to see the whole thing disintegrate at first hand.
Not condoning his actions at all, but I've a certain amount of sympathy for his plight. Comes across as a decent person generally.
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People moan about his last few seasons with us but he was starved of service
He certainly wasn't starved of chips and cake.
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I would like to like him more than I do but he has a lot of bridge building to do as far as I am concerned for the central part he played in the humiliation and rejection of the excellent players who were not in his "gang" that eventually saw us flushed down the toilet of the Premiership.
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Gabby just a tad off key
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As flat as a pancake. Amazing though how much personality he shows now compared to the "obviously...yeah" interviews that peppered his playing career.
He was a bit of a silly pup at various points in his Villa career, mainly towards the end but you'd have fun, supping a pint with him. Same goes for Bruce and McLeish. A great bunch of lads.
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I would like to like him more than I do but he has a lot of bridge building to do as far as I am concerned for the central part he played in the humiliation and rejection of the excellent players who were not in his "gang" that eventually saw us flushed down the toilet of the Premiership.
Exactly right.
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Deleted his Twitter account apparently because all of those brave motherf***ers sending his racial abuse.
He shouldn't have to delete his account to protect himself from this. Twitter should be deleting the racist scumbags attacking him!
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Gabby and Yorke on talkSPORT this morning. Great to hear a Villa great interviewing Dwight
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A Villa great, you said...?
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I think Gabby is really good on Talksport. Darren Bent too, really good. I usually listen to what they have to say and it usually makes sense.
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Think it must've been a challenge for anyone really to go from an England player & on the brink of Champions League football with the club you support
Wasn’t/isn’t he an Arsenal fan?
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I'm as pleased as I'm surprised to hear how good he is, and how comfortable he sounds, doing his media work.
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I'm as pleased as I'm surprised to hear how good he is, and how comfortable he sounds, doing his media work.
Yeah, he seems to enjoy himself as well.
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This a pop at the club?
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This a pop at the club?
Hate to say it - but he has a point. The loyalty is only valid when at the top - after that everything is discarded.
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I suppose in a world where footballers receive racial abuse online, a footballer can get punched by a pitch invader banners aimed at managers are unveiled outside peoples homes, and wags being sent death threats, some voices urging us all not to hate him is somewhat understandable.
But it does seem a little bit OTT. He plays for somebody Villa play against so I'll dislike him all I want.
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This a pop at the club?
That is 100% a pop at the club. but who can blame them for distancing themselves from gabby? It's a shame that Jack came through during the dark days of Gabby / Lescott / Richards. I wonder if their collective lack of professionalism, passion and brain cells had more of an influence on Jack than we realise?
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Probably not, just how he see's it. I mean Gabby was quite happy sitting around for 8 years doing very little and no-one would have cried if he'd left to be fair. And he would have been off like a shot if City had come in for him. I'm fine with that stance, but don't pretend you're any different to promote your image. That's the problem with thingymebob.
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This a pop at the club?
Hate to say it - but he has a point. The loyalty is only valid when at the top - after that everything is discarded.
I'm not sure he has, the club funded him for 4-5 years after he stopped putting in the effort, for him to sulk because they didn't have anything to offer once his contract finished says a lot more about him than the club.
The loyalty thing comes up because it's a one way relationship, if a player isn't good enough for the club the contract protects him, if a club isn't good enough for the player it means nothing so the fans and club are relying on the player 'doing the right thing' and they regularly end up being let down one way or the other.
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Gabby didn't give the club his all.
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"When you finish playing for them nothing"
That's because you've finished playing for them Gabby.
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This the guy who was club captain and went missing for 5 years while the club went to shit? In a haze. Bingeing. On full pay. You can do one as well Gabby.
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Probably not, just how he see's it. I mean Gabby was quite happy sitting around for 8 years doing very little and no-one would have cried if he'd left to be fair. And he would have been off like a shot if City had come in for him. I'm fine with that stance, but don't pretend you're any different to promote your image. That's the problem with thingymebob.
Eight years doing nothing? I was never Agbonlahor's biggest fan but his "shit spell" seems to grow every time someone wants to slag him off!
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This a pop at the club?
Never forget. https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/720595283466403840
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This a pop at the club?
That is 100% a pop at the club. but who can blame them for distancing themselves from gabby? It's a shame that Jack came through during the dark days of Gabby / Lescott / Richards. I wonder if their collective lack of professionalism, passion and brain cells had more of an influence on Jack than we realise?
Well let's face facts - Grealish lost 2+ calendar football years mid 2015 to into 2017/18 season when he was playing for the worst Villa team in my memory.
Gabby was actually largely shite for 6 years and underperformed for a good chunk of the previous 3. He scored 13 goals 2013-19. He scored a few goals v the Heathens and the Bitters so has an elevated fondness in far too many Villa fans mind
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Probably not, just how he see's it. I mean Gabby was quite happy sitting around for 8 years doing very little and no-one would have cried if he'd left to be fair. And he would have been off like a shot if City had come in for him. I'm fine with that stance, but don't pretend you're any different to promote your image. That's the problem with thingymebob.
Eight years doing nothing? I was never Agbonlahor's biggest fan but his "shit spell" seems to grow every time someone wants to slag him off!
Alright then, his shit spell having the scoring record of a slightly more prolific Davis. 30 goals in 8 seasons isn't really pulling up any trees. The fact that no-one would touch him with a barge pole when he left us to the point he had to retire 10 months later says it all.
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Coming from a bloke who stole a living for several years, Agbonlahor can fuck right off. The bastion of laziness.
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Imagine spending like 15 years at a club and you only scored 87 goals. Kane scored 41 goals for spuds in 2017/18 alone.
Pathetic!
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He's Ratboys mate and wants to stay in with him. A bit of gossip here and there is catnip for punditry.
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Fuck off Gabby you brain dead lazy twat.
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What he says doesn’t make sense.
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He may actually be revering to Stan who he is still mates with , who the club couldn't find a role for ..may be wrong though
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This a pop at the club?
That is 100% a pop at the club. but who can blame them for distancing themselves from gabby? It's a shame that Jack came through during the dark days of Gabby / Lescott / Richards. I wonder if their collective lack of professionalism, passion and brain cells had more of an influence on Jack than we realise?
That's crossed my mind many times. Finally I think the link with that relegation team is broken unless I've missed a player who has gone under the radar. As for agbonlahor he's not even worth commenting on!
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It made me laugh when people on social media were raging about Jack and saying that at least Gabby was a legend who never left.
I sometimes don’t even know where to start. Legend my arse.
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This a pop at the club?
That is 100% a pop at the club. but who can blame them for distancing themselves from gabby? It's a shame that Jack came through during the dark days of Gabby / Lescott / Richards. I wonder if their collective lack of professionalism, passion and brain cells had more of an influence on Jack than we realise?
That's crossed my mind many times. Finally I think the link with that relegation team is broken unless I've missed a player who has gone under the radar. As for agbonlahor he's not even worth commenting on!
Technically Steer was with us but he was out at Huddersfield all season.
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Chipsticks made a good point on one of the other threads, for Villa fans watching since 2000, there aren't a great deal of good moments and great players to choose from.
Although I think the real problem is the unconscious desire to have a "hero" or "legend" to connect to. As it is one of the last things between partisan football supporter and neutral who enjoys watching the good players play each other on Super Sundays.
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If Gabby had not downed tools when MON left then maybe it would have been thought of better.
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Good question! Moments and players since 2000? Off the top of my head:
Players: Merson, Dublin, Darius, Angel, Mellberg, Laursen, Milner, Petrov, Young, Gabby, Carew, Mings and McGinn.
Moments: Getting to four major finals, top six finishes, the comeback win at Goodison, beating Ajaz in European competition, winning at Old Trafford in 2009, Gary Cahill's goal, good wins against SHA, Lowton's goal, ten wins in a row, promotion and beating the defending champions 7-2.
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Quite nauseous Gabby trying to equate his effort with Jacks, knocking in goal against SHA might fool one or two but he was a fucking disgrace in the latter part of his contract
Button it.
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This a pop at the club?
That is 100% a pop at the club. but who can blame them for distancing themselves from gabby? It's a shame that Jack came through during the dark days of Gabby / Lescott / Richards. I wonder if their collective lack of professionalism, passion and brain cells had more of an influence on Jack than we realise?
That's crossed my mind many times. Finally I think the link with that relegation team is broken unless I've missed a player who has gone under the radar. As for agbonlahor he's not even worth commenting on!
I think that it’s no coincidence that he who I can’t bring myself to name knuckled down and developed as a player after John Terry arrived.
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Good question! Moments and players since 2000? Off the top of my head:
Players: Merson, Dublin, Darius, Angel, Mellberg, Laursen, Milner, Petrov, Young, Gabby, Carew, Mings and McGinn.
Moments: Getting to four major finals, top six finishes, the comeback win at Goodison, beating Ajaz in European competition, winning at Old Trafford in 2009, Gary Cahill's goal, good wins against SHA, Lowton's goal, ten wins in a row, promotion and beating the defending champions 7-2.
Almost all of those moments involve either Grealish or Agbonlahor so I do have some sympathy with younger fans who regard them as "club legends".
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This a pop at the club?
That is 100% a pop at the club. but who can blame them for distancing themselves from gabby? It's a shame that Jack came through during the dark days of Gabby / Lescott / Richards. I wonder if their collective lack of professionalism, passion and brain cells had more of an influence on Jack than we realise?
That's crossed my mind many times. Finally I think the link with that relegation team is broken unless I've missed a player who has gone under the radar. As for agbonlahor he's not even worth commenting on!
Technically Steer was with us but he was out at Huddersfield all season.
Forgot about Steer, I can't believe he's been with us since 2013. Still, no relegation stain on his conscience.
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Piss off Gabby. You should be thankful for what the club gave you given your efforts in the second half of your career.
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Was that Gabby on the Bake Off last night? Right build and look ;D :) ;)
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Every time I see this thread pop up I despair. Fuck off Flabby Aintgonnascore / Onegoalayear!
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he has a selective memory
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Listening to him this morning on talksport I absolutely detest him,no wonder we ended up in the shit,in all my life time of supporting Aston Villa he comes top of the list with a few others from that period, should never be allowed in Villa Park no matter what the occasion
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how he gets the work ???
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Listening to him this morning on talksport I absolutely detest him,no wonder we ended up in the shit,in all my life time of supporting Aston Villa he comes top of the list with a few others from that period, should never be allowed in Villa Park no matter what the occasion
What did he say?
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Going on about how much he loves going out to clubs and pubs nearly every night and how much the manager liked him,possible Lambert or O'Niel, when he stood up for himself, just turned car radio on when finished walking the dog so didn't get all of it
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I turn the bell end off when he comes on the radio or tv.
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Listening to him this morning on talksport I absolutely detest him,no wonder we ended up in the shit,in all my life time of supporting Aston Villa he comes top of the list with a few others from that period, should never be allowed in Villa Park no matter what the occasion
Him and Jamie O'Hara were on together when I was listening to it the other day. Made the Radio WM phone in seem high brow.
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He's a complete moron. So probably has a lengthy career as a commentator/pundit ahead of him.
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He's a complete moron. So probably has a lengthy career as a commentator/pundit ahead of him.
This. An embarrassment
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I don't think Gabby will ever be a complete anything.
It would require too much hard work and dedication.
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I don't think Gabby will ever be a complete anything.
It would require too much hard work and dedication.
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
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I don't think Gabby will ever be a complete anything.
It would require too much hard work and dedication.
I stand corrected!
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Maybe Remi Garde had a point...
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I'm with Jake on this.
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I'm with Jake on this.
same.
In response to “ I am rich” someone should point out you can not buy class.
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Agbonlahor in being a clown shocker. He seems to forget many of us were there for 2011-2016 and had to watch his 5 years of utter piss taking and so called professionalism. He can fuck off.
Agbonlahor/Richards/Lescott the biggest trio of twats this club has ever had the misfortune to employ.
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I can't believe he wrote that about Buendia's contribution after his last 6 seasons at the club. He has never been self aware has he.
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What a thick fucking bellend he really is.
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You can deffo see why Joe is like he is. Poor lad never had a chance with those sort of role models.
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And he's an actual Villa fan, you can see why others took the piss
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He’s not he’s an Arsenal fan. Although I might have got that wrong but thought I heard it once.
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rich and thick to complete the sentence , if he could
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If that screenshot is real that's very disappointing. I can't believe he'd say something like that.
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If that screenshot is real that's very disappointing. I can't believe he'd say something like that.
I can.
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He’s not he’s an Arsenal fan. Although I might have got that wrong but thought I heard it once.
He's an Arsenal fan and recently wrote about why he loves Arsenal.
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The day he says anything remotely sensible or nuanced is the day he effectively makes himself redundant in the media.
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He’s just trolling for bites, and Villa twitter is chomping. I bet he’s laughing that stupid laugh right now.
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Gabby, irrelevant since 2010.
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You can deffo see why Joe is like he is. Poor lad never had a chance with those sort of role models.
Indeed.
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Agbonlahor in being a clown shocker. He seems to forget many of us were there for 2011-2016 and had to watch his 5 years of utter piss taking and so called professionalism. He can fuck off.
Agbonlahor/Richards/Lescott the biggest trio of twats this club has ever had the misfortune to employ.
Yes - worse is they win that award and bear in mind the competition.
They All Should Have Known Better - 2 of them from Villa families.
They poisoned the whole playing side.
And as for the other, no amount of laughing and jabbering from Richards on his multiple media appearances disguises the fact he was a grade a cock at Villa.
We were a listless drifting ship and they steered us onto the rocks.
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Agbonlahor in being a clown shocker. He seems to forget many of us were there for 2011-2016 and had to watch his 5 years of utter piss taking and so called professionalism. He can fuck off.
Agbonlahor/Richards/Lescott the biggest trio of twats this club has ever had the misfortune to employ.
Yes - worse is they win that award and bear in mind the competition.
They All Should Have Known Better - 2 of them from Villa families.
They poisoned the whole playing side.
And as for the other, no amount of laughing and jabbering from Richards on his multiple media appearances disguises the fact he was a grade a cock at Villa.
We were a listless drifting ship and they steered us onto the rocks.
Thick as pig shit and awful pundits , the definition of society dumbing down
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This popped up as a suggested video on youtube today!
It could be from any game Gabby played in the latter half of his time at Villa.
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Pair of absolute wasters but even more vitriol needed for the idiots who give them the contracts they had. Richards in particular is a tit head, being load and laughing like a bell end seemingly qualifies you to be a top table pundit these days, sigh....
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This popped up as a suggested video on youtube today!
It could be from any game Gabby played in the latter half of his time at Villa.
it's a compilation Video - the best of Agbonlahor 2011-2019
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Agbonlahor in being a clown shocker. He seems to forget many of us were there for 2011-2016 and had to watch his 5 years of utter piss taking and so called professionalism. He can fuck off.
Agbonlahor/Richards/Lescott the biggest trio of twats this club has ever had the misfortune to employ.
the three of them go fuck off.
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Agbonlahor in being a clown shocker. He seems to forget many of us were there for 2011-2016 and had to watch his 5 years of utter piss taking and so called professionalism. He can fuck off.
Agbonlahor/Richards/Lescott the biggest trio of twats this club has ever had the misfortune to employ.
the three of them go fuck off.
The only thing I'd say for Richards is that he did front up away at Wycombe in the FA Cup to the fans. That at least is one thing he did that showed something. He should never have been bought in the first place. Gabby gave up after MON left for me. Lescott I've got nothing good to say about him.
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At Wycombe Richards after the game confronted by the fans, of whom I was one, was an incoherent, arm waving, patronising arsehole.
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At Wycombe Richards after the game confronted by the fans, of whom I was one, was an incoherent, arm waving, patronising arsehole.
All I remember from the TV was Richards saying "I know. I know." Did he say owt else?
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At Wycombe Richards after the game confronted by the fans, of whom I was one, was an incoherent, arm waving, patronising arsehole.
All I remember from the TV was Richards saying "I know. I know." Did he say owt else?
To be fair, what else could Richards have said? We'd drawn, the fans were pissed off, not necessarily with the game in isolation but likely the way the club was on the slide. There was nothing, not a thing, that Richards in that situation could have said to placate the fans.
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Richards' post game performance has to be seen in the context of the gum spitting contest that had amused our bench on the touchline as we struggled to hold at bay the mighty Wycombe Wanderers. That second half and its aftermath was the last straw for a large number of us.
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Richards' post game performance has to be seen in the context of the gum spitting contest that had amused our bench on the touchline as we struggled to hold at bay the mighty Wycombe Wanderers. That second half and its aftermath was the last straw for a large number of us.
I'd completely forgotten about that.
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Richards' post game performance has to be seen in the context of the gum spitting contest that had amused our bench on the touchline as we struggled to hold at bay the mighty Wycombe Wanderers. That second half and its aftermath was the last straw for a large number of us.
I'd also forgotten about it. Who was involved in that? Brad Guzan was one. Was the other Lescott?
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Yes Guzan and Lescott. Founding fathers of the dressing room cabal that climaxed with Secret Santa.
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Yes Guzan and Lescott. Founding fathers of the dressing room cabal that climaxed with Secret Santa.
You've lost me with Secret Santa, but maybe that's down to the human mind's ability to blot out events that are truely too horrific.
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Yes Guzan and Lescott. Founding fathers of the dressing room cabal that climaxed with Secret Santa.
You've lost me with Secret Santa, but maybe that's down to the human mind's ability to blot out events that are truely too horrific.
Wasnt the secret Santa what truely showed the divide between the English and french players?
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Yes. I'd say that it was the lowest point of the season but there was plenty of hot competition!!
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https://youtu.be/mG9eHozG_sw
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A better talker than a player for us. The whole sorry club was a total basket case at that point. It was toxic from top to bottom.
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https://youtu.be/mG9eHozG_sw
I respected Micah for that. It's strange notwithstanding the torrid time he had with us he's still incredibly pro-Villa when on TV.
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He does usually talk us up but I probably would feel a bit of residual guilt if I'd been paid a fortune by a club and not contributed much during my playing days.
He likely was also in Grealish's ear about how he had to move to Citeh too.
Overall, I like him and I like watching him on telly. He's always in good form unlike most misery-arsed pundits, and his haircut and clobber is a sight to behold.
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Is there any way i can hide a thread? I hate even looking at his name, a poster boy for the parasites that almost bankrupted our club.
Villa are in such a great place now we don’t need to be reminded of what a mess we were and how we were let down by jokers like this.
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https://youtu.be/mG9eHozG_sw
I respected Micah for that. It's strange notwithstanding the torrid time he had with us he's still incredibly pro-Villa when on TV.
I didn't. I was there and saw how fucking abysmal he and the rest of the team were. And saying shit like "we're trying" when it didn't look anything like it and trying to turn it on the fans by asking them if they thought getting pissed off was going to help.
What would've helped Micah was you and your colleagues giving a shit.
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Thank McGrath we've left this godawful era behind
https://twitter.com/talkSPORT/status/1486286542675091458?t=NJAgxjPhyKtBHk4J5aJFRA&s=19
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Just left the hippodrome watching the pantomime,he could be star attraction next year
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Thank McGrath we've left this godawful era behind
https://twitter.com/talkSPORT/status/1486286542675091458?t=NJAgxjPhyKtBHk4J5aJFRA&s=19
so proud of his exploits isnt he , all the bantz
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Thank McGrath we've left this godawful era behind
https://twitter.com/talkSPORT/status/1486286542675091458?t=NJAgxjPhyKtBHk4J5aJFRA&s=19
Absolutely embarrassing viewing, that.
It's all oh-so-funny, Gabby, you fat fucking waster.
I've said this for a while but Agbonlahor was for his later years the absolute poster boy for everything that was wrong with the club.
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Thank McGrath we've left this godawful era behind
https://twitter.com/talkSPORT/status/1486286542675091458?t=NJAgxjPhyKtBHk4J5aJFRA&s=19
Absolutely embarrassing viewing, that.
It's all oh-so-funny, Gabby, you fat fucking waster.
I've said this for a while but Agbonlahor was for his later years the absolute poster boy for everything that was wrong with the club.
Approaching the epitome of an unfunny anecdote. "Yeah and then we was drinking and somebody then decided to stay out so that he missed his day at work"
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Should not be allowed into Villa Park under any circumstances ever again and should be told by the club the reason why
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He's only just 35, look at the size of the fat bastard.
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If he thinks stories like this somehow ingratiate him with any of us, he’s severely mistaken. What a bellend.
Apparently the guy who was having so much fun he didn’t come back was Chris Herd who never played for the club again.
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I almost almost mind feel sorry for Lambert after listening to that.
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The club was rotten from the absent Chairman, out of his depth CEO, sub par Managers down to a playing squad realising they could just take the money and the piss. O’Neill holed us beneath the water line and Lerner couldn’t be bothered to fix it, 6 seasons later we were sunk.
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Love to know who that player was !
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Love to know who that player was !
Chris Herd apparently
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And given how shit we were back then, imagine the captain telling the manager they couldn't be arsed to go on a training camp.
Fucking shambles.
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I hated that team. Hated Lambert and his pathetic philosophy.
The player was Herd wasn't it?
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Ah, just saw Toronto's post.
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I was told that the CEO / Owner were so worried about the reaction from supporters if he was allowed to leave, that they decided to offer Gabby a 5 year contract (unfortunately Gabby signed it!)
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If he thinks stories like this somehow ingratiate him with any of us, he’s severely mistaken. What a bellend.
Apparently the guy who was having so much fun he didn’t come back was Chris Herd who never played for the club again.
Suspect he's more motivated by trying to impress the likes of Alan Brazil than he is winning back affection from fans.
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That whole period was an utter shambles. Shit owner, shit manager, shit players. Wasn’t it Herd who got into a fight when he was out on the lash with Collins and Delph?
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According to his Wikipedia page Herd is still only 32 years of age. He is described as a utility player. I think that must have been an auto correct from utterly useless.
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Collins - what a role model he was. Should have been sacked for hitting Cowans (allegedly).
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If he thinks stories like this somehow ingratiate him with any of us, he’s severely mistaken. What a bellend.
Apparently the guy who was having so much fun he didn’t come back was Chris Herd who never played for the club again.
There's your first problem...
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And given how shit we were back then, imagine the captain telling the manager they couldn't be arsed to go on a training camp.
Fucking shambles.
And on this trip try and go hell for leather on each other in a practice match because they were sulking about being there . at no point has he thought’ should i be saying this’. all good bantz though!!!dear me
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And given how shit we were back then, imagine the captain telling the manager they couldn't be arsed to go on a training camp.
Fucking shambles.
And on this trip try and go hell for leather on each other in a practice match because they were sulking about being there . at no point has he thought’ should i be saying this’. all good bantz though!!!dear me
He didn't give a shit then and how he has his money he cares even less. Wankers the lot of them. What an utter shit show that time was.
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No wonder we were sh*t - that is an absolute disgrace - I'm fuming and I never get that worked up over players being idiots.
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He's only just 35, look at the size of the fat bastard.
I can't believe he's over a year younger the Ashley Young. I'm delighted to think that under Gerrard, any player as unprofessional as Gabby turned out to be would be out on their ear quick smart.
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Aye, fucking hilarious us traipsing round the country spending our hard earned money watching that wanker and his useless mates.
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It’s interesting though isn’t it. It takes a couple of bad apples and a lack of leadership and suddenly the culture is completely toxic.
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It’s interesting though isn’t it. It takes a couple of bad apples and a lack of leadership and suddenly the culture is completely toxic.
Indeed so. Like every other workplace out there as it goes.
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It’s interesting though isn’t it. It takes a couple of bad apples and a lack of leadership and suddenly the culture is completely toxic.
Indeed so. Like every other workplace out there as it goes.
Yep.
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Yeah but I wonder if the tipping point comes even earlier in football - young people with huge amounts of disposable income.
Shows how critical the club leadership and recruiting the right characters is.
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IIRC, one of them was significantly upset enough to weep at the final whistle the day we got relegated. I'm not sure, it could have been Ashley Westwood, someone I always thought valued his position playing for a big club in the Premier Division. The majority of those fuckers from that time should be forever held up for ridicule and shaming.
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Thank McGrath we've left this godawful era behind
https://twitter.com/talkSPORT/status/1486286542675091458?t=NJAgxjPhyKtBHk4J5aJFRA&s=19
Absolutely embarrassing viewing, that.
It's all oh-so-funny, Gabby, you fat fucking waster.
I've said this for a while but Agbonlahor was for his later years the absolute poster boy for everything that was wrong with the club.
Here here Paulie. He really took the piss out of us the fans and the club. So unprofessional when the club needed the likes of him most. No time at all for the guy. A few derby goals don't paper over that fact.
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Why hasn't the pointless balloon been relegated to "Villa Memories"?
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Why hasn't the pointless balloon been relegated to "Villa Memories"?
I agree. If Dean Smith has been moved, then this fat moron should be too.
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Why hasn't the pointless balloon been relegated to "Villa Memories"?
I agree. If Dean Smith has been moved, then this fat moron should be too.
Thirded, remove the fat waster.
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Fourthed
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Son justed mentioned that Herd had a serious drink problem, not excusing his behavior
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IIRC, one of them was significantly upset enough to weep at the final whistle the day we got relegated. I'm not sure, it could have been Ashley Westwood, someone I always thought valued his position playing for a big club in the Premier Division. The majority of those fuckers from that time should be forever held up for ridicule and shaming.
Correct. Meanwhile captain marvel was of partying in Dubai as we went down
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I never understood the stick Westwood got. He is a bit limited as an absolutely top level footballer but a very good passer and a decent enough lower level Premier League player. We had loads more deserving cases for abuse with Lescott being number one in the queue.
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https://metro.co.uk/2022/02/03/roy-keane-confronted-ex-man-utd-star-tom-cleverley-at-his-house-after-training-bust-up-claims-gabby-agbonlahor-16042851/?ito=newsnow-feed
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Everything you read about that era is toxic.
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Everything you read about that era is toxic.
& Gabby being one of the main protagonists.
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https://metro.co.uk/2022/02/03/roy-keane-confronted-ex-man-utd-star-tom-cleverley-at-his-house-after-training-bust-up-claims-gabby-agbonlahor-16042851/?ito=newsnow-feed
So he says Roy Keane spoke to the Villa players "disrespectfully" and then recalls about a time when he was in discussion with Lambert and turned to Keane and said "I’m not talking to you, Roy. I’m talking to the manager".
What an absolute bellend.
I hate when this thread bumps because it always means he's said something else stupid. I wish he'd just foxtrot oscar.
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https://metro.co.uk/2022/02/03/roy-keane-confronted-ex-man-utd-star-tom-cleverley-at-his-house-after-training-bust-up-claims-gabby-agbonlahor-16042851/?ito=newsnow-feed
So he says Roy Keane spoke to the Villa players "disrespectfully" and then recalls about a time when he was in discussion with Lambert and turned to Keane and said "I’m not talking to you, Roy. I’m talking to the manager".
What an absolute bellend.
I hate when this thread bumps because it always means he's said something else stupid. I wish he'd just foxtrot oscar.
Agreed, he's an absolute bellend. You won't find me sticking up for Lambert because he was utterly useless, but no wonder things went as badly as they did for so long when you had thick as pig shit wasters like Agbonlahor clogging up the place like a turd that won't flush.
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and he does not see it when he says it !!!
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ONeill was on talksport while he was presenting the other day fawning all over him. Both a couple of twats best forgotten.
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https://metro.co.uk/2022/02/03/roy-keane-confronted-ex-man-utd-star-tom-cleverley-at-his-house-after-training-bust-up-claims-gabby-agbonlahor-16042851/?ito=newsnow-feed
So he says Roy Keane spoke to the Villa players "disrespectfully" and then recalls about a time when he was in discussion with Lambert and turned to Keane and said "I’m not talking to you, Roy. I’m talking to the manager".
What an absolute bellend.
I hate when this thread bumps because it always means he's said something else stupid. I wish he'd just foxtrot oscar.
Be thankful that we don't have to suffer the embarrassment of being stuck in the lower league with Small Heath given this dumbo's track record for shouting his mouth off on Talkshite
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Keane left because the club was being run into the ground from top to bottom. He tried to introduce professionalism and a training regime which would help to keep us in the Premier league. Instead all the power was given to Lescott, Guzan, Bacuna, N'Zogbia, Richards and all led by this fat waster. And the rest is history. And now we have to listen to his brand of professionalism on the radio and watch that other donkey on MOTD. It truly is an unfair world.
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I heard him talking about this. He finished off by saying something like I wasn't having that AT my club.
This from the same overweight c**t that had to be sent abroad in March/April to get fit.
It grates on me whenever I get to hear this twat get to rewrite history while being lauded as a Villa Legend.
He was symptomatic of the one of the worst periods in our history and represented all that was wrong with the club during that period.