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Title: Au Revoir Pires
Post by: pmk1981 on January 05, 2011, 08:35:06 AM
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_6635544,00.html

On this i beleive pires might be one of the departures.....

he says "lots of departures" "some arriivals"

so basically , more out than in again....
Title: Re: Aurovoir Pires
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on January 05, 2011, 08:40:23 AM
PIRES

'' From what I've understood, there have been several meetings between Gerard and the players who didn't really agree with him."

Oh dear.

Title: Re: Aurovoir Pires
Post by: KevinGage on January 05, 2011, 08:44:25 AM
Very odd interview, that.

Hardly sounds like a glowing endorsement of the manager - a manager who actually signed him.

Two games to save his job? Possibly. But you wouldn't want your own players saying that.  It's almost written from a detached, neutral perspective. As if he's not actually a Villa player. Which will probably be the case soon enough, in fairness.
Title: Re: Aurovoir Pires
Post by: rutski on January 05, 2011, 08:45:40 AM
this is just a re run of what was said in the press a couple of weeks ago! The players looked together to me on sunday, we have more than enough to get out of this!
Title: Re: Aurovoir Pires
Post by: Nev on January 05, 2011, 08:49:27 AM
At the moment all I can recall of Pires in a Villa shirt is him getting off with a number of Arsenal players in the tunnel prior to the match at Villa Park.
Title: Re: Aurovoir Pires
Post by: maidstonevillain on January 05, 2011, 08:50:31 AM
Very odd interview, that.

Hardly sounds like a glowing endorsement of the manager - a manager who actually signed him.

Two games to save his job? Possibly. But you wouldn't want your own players saying that.  It's almost written from a detached, neutral perspective. As if he's not actually a Villa player. Which will probably be the case soon enough, in fairness.

I think that is the way to look at it. A few neutral comments put together with added Sky spin.
Title: Re: Aurovoir Pires
Post by: Eigentor on January 05, 2011, 08:57:47 AM
So far Pires has been far more active in the press than on the pitch!
Title: Re: Aurovoir Pires
Post by: N'ZMAV on January 05, 2011, 09:20:50 AM
Maybe Pires is looking for a way out after realising he's made a mistake.
Title: Re: Aurovoir Pires
Post by: Risso on January 05, 2011, 09:29:39 AM
I hope we've seen the last of him.  It was worthwhile taking a punt on him at the time, but it's clear he has nothing to offer whatsoever.
Title: Re: Aurovoir Pires
Post by: pauliewalnuts on January 05, 2011, 09:40:41 AM
After finally managing to show some togetherness and spirit on Sunday, and get a very important point, and with an essential game tonight, this is the absolute last sort of thing we need to be reading, really.
Title: Re: Aurovoir Pires
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on January 05, 2011, 10:15:02 AM
I hope we've seen the last of him.  It was worthwhile taking a punt on him at the time, but it's clear he has nothing to offer whatsoever.
It's actually been quite embarrasing when he's on the pitch.
Supposed to be 37 but he wanders around like Abe Simpson.
Title: Re: Aurovoir Pires
Post by: Matt C on January 05, 2011, 10:18:08 AM
Cheers Robert, very helpful.
Title: Re: Aurovoir Pires
Post by: Mazrim on January 05, 2011, 10:18:41 AM
Bad English is going to have kittens.
Title: Re: Aurovoir Pires
Post by: Villa'Zawg on January 05, 2011, 10:22:15 AM
You may not want to read it or think about it but its right. He'd be gone if we finished the week in the bottom 3 and out of the cup wouldn't he?
Title: Re: Aurovoir Pires
Post by: darren woolley on January 05, 2011, 10:23:17 AM
Quote
After finally managing to show some togetherness and spirit on Sunday, and get a very important point, and with an essential game tonight, this is the absolute last sort of thing we need to be reading, really.


I was thinking the same thing Paulie
Title: Re: Aurovoir Pires
Post by: Legion on January 05, 2011, 10:25:23 AM
Au revoir.
Title: Re: Aurovoir Pires
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on January 05, 2011, 10:25:55 AM
You may not want to read it or think about it but its right. He'd be gone if we finished the week in the bottom 3 and out of the cup wouldn't he?
Undeniable.
Lose the next 2 and he's sacked.
Title: Re: Aurovoir Pires
Post by: Risso on January 05, 2011, 10:27:42 AM
I'd say you're almost certainly right Mark. 
Title: Re: Aurovoir Pires
Post by: Mr Diggles on January 05, 2011, 10:29:29 AM
I'm not so sure, I think Lerner will give him as long as possible to turn this round, because they view it as a long-term plan Houllier is putting in place, plus there are too many extenuating factors to solely blame the manager for Vill'a current predicament. It's not like we're adrift in the league, you put two or three good results together and you shoot up the league table. And with the run of games we have from mid-feb onwards, Houllier will be without any excuses come the end of the season. I simply can't see us being involved in the relegation battle for much longer, even if we do lose tonight and in the cup.
Title: Re: Aurovoir Pires
Post by: villasjf on January 05, 2011, 10:30:14 AM
Taxi for Pires...... oh he already has one every day 250 miles, a joke
Title: Re: Aurovoir Pires
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on January 05, 2011, 10:33:56 AM
I simply can't see us being involved in the relegation battle for much longer, even if we do lose tonight and in the cup.
I could.
The defence is woeful and we're always likely to ship on average 2 goals.
Meat and drink for any opposing striker.
Darren Bent tonight will have me shivering like a shitting dog anytime the ball comes near him.

Also morale would go through the floor and fan reaction would make Houlliers position untenable.

I just hope to God it doesn't come to that.
Title: Re: Aurovoir Pires
Post by: Risso on January 05, 2011, 10:34:42 AM
I'm not so sure, I think Lerner will give him as long as possible to turn this round, because they view it as a long-term plan Houllier is putting in place, plus there are too many extenuating factors to solely blame the manager for Vill'a current predicament. It's not like we're adrift in the league, you put two or three good results together and you shoot up the league table. And with the run of games we have from mid-feb onwards, Houllier will be without any excuses come the end of the season. I simply can't see us being involved in the relegation battle for much longer, even if we do lose tonight and in the cup.

Depends on the performances.  We haven't put together a run of two to three good ones yet, never mind results.  Two wins and I think we'll steadily improve over the rest of the season.  If the Chelsea performance was another Man U style blip and we go back to being crap, then get knocked out of the cup, I think he'd get the shove.  And would deserve to as well.
Title: Re: Au Revoir Pires
Post by: Dave on January 05, 2011, 10:40:41 AM
You may not want to read it or think about it but its right. He'd be gone if we finished the week in the bottom 3 and out of the cup wouldn't he?
Which is all well and good, but it doesn't really need the squad to announce it, does it?
Title: Re: Au Revoir Pires
Post by: pauliewalnuts on January 05, 2011, 10:42:37 AM
In some ways - obvious ones - he's walking a very fine line at the moment, it's hard to argue that every game is anything other than vital at the moment.

On the other hand, though, I just can't imagine Lerner sacking him, as to do so would mean "starting again" manager-wise in the middle of the season

If I were a gambling man, I'd have money on us finishing about 10th, but if we only scrape survival, those are the circumstances I could see him getting the bullet.
Title: Re: Au Revoir Pires
Post by: not3bad on January 05, 2011, 10:45:26 AM
You may not want to read it or think about it but its right. He'd be gone if we finished the week in the bottom 3 and out of the cup wouldn't he?
Undeniable.
Lose the next 2 and he's sacked.
I wouldn't say that's a definite at all.
Title: Re: Au Revoir Pires
Post by: peter w on January 05, 2011, 10:48:13 AM
Thing is with this is that Pires is speaking from a position of security so can speak his mind. Houllier can cancel his contract but Pires isn't playing and doesn't need the money so he can easily go back home and give a gallic shrug of the shoulders. All it is is an opinion. No more valid than yours or mine, well mine is always valid so just yours.
Title: Re: Au Revoir Pires
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on January 05, 2011, 10:49:13 AM
You may not want to read it or think about it but its right. He'd be gone if we finished the week in the bottom 3 and out of the cup wouldn't he?
Which is all well and good, but it doesn't really need the squad to announce it, does it?
Agree Dave.
You wouldn't expect comments like that from a man who he's just signed.
Title: Re: Au Revoir Pires
Post by: nick harper on January 05, 2011, 10:56:52 AM
You may not want to read it or think about it but its right. He'd be gone if we finished the week in the bottom 3 and out of the cup wouldn't he?
Undeniable.
Lose the next 2 and he's sacked.

If the performances are poor and we lose both, defeat to Birmingham may well be the tipping point.
Title: Re: Au Revoir Pires
Post by: damon loves JT on January 05, 2011, 10:57:13 AM
The substance of what he says is not really that controversial. I wish players were allowed to have opinions like this in England without everyone fainting with shock.
Title: Re: Au Revoir Pires
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on January 05, 2011, 10:58:42 AM
The substance of what he says is not really that controversial. I wish players were allowed to have opinions like this in England without everyone fainting with shock.
Coming over with his fancy French opinions.
He can piss off!
Title: Re: Au Revoir Pires
Post by: Risso on January 05, 2011, 11:03:08 AM
not to mention that frankly pathetic beard thing.  It looks like a porn star's minge.
Title: Re: Au Revoir Pires
Post by: damon loves JT on January 05, 2011, 11:05:48 AM
I'm surprised he didn't use his mayonnaise analogy again. Or compare Villa to a souffle, or a galantine, or a dish of sweetbreads
Title: Re: Au Revoir Pires
Post by: damon loves JT on January 05, 2011, 11:06:16 AM
porn star's minge! get in!
Title: Re: Au Revoir Pires
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on January 05, 2011, 11:06:59 AM
not to mention that frankly pathetic beard thing.  It looks like a porn star's minge.
He certainly plays like he's well and truly fucked.
Title: Re: Au Revoir Pires
Post by: CJ on January 05, 2011, 11:08:52 AM
At the moment all I can recall of Pires in a Villa shirt is him getting off with a number of Arsenal players in the tunnel prior to the match at Villa Park.
Unfair  - I remember seeing some real passion from him.  Unfortunately it was arguing with Harry Redknob while the game carried on regardless behind him
Title: Re: Au Revoir Pires
Post by: Olneythelonely on January 05, 2011, 11:13:04 AM
You may not want to read it or think about it but its right. He'd be gone if we finished the week in the bottom 3 and out of the cup wouldn't he?

Whether it's correct or not, he shouldn't be saying it.
Title: Re: Au Revoir Pires
Post by: Mazrim on January 05, 2011, 11:15:07 AM
porn star's minge! get in!

If you insist. Just a bit of spit and a playful strangling...
Title: Re: Au Revoir Pires
Post by: damon loves JT on January 05, 2011, 11:22:02 AM
porn star's minge! get in!

If you insist. Just a bit of spit and a playful strangling...

I don't know the French for `breath play'. Where is BE when you need him
Title: Re: Au Revoir Pires
Post by: KevinGage on January 05, 2011, 11:29:21 AM
I'm surprised he didn't use his mayonnaise analogy again. Or compare Villa to a souffle, or a galantine, or a dish of sweetbreads

"How do you say...we were offal today, just offal."
Title: Re: Au Revoir Pires
Post by: Villa'Zawg on January 05, 2011, 11:32:58 AM
it's all making sense now. Gerard appears to have been trying to change the players using the Foie Gras method.
Title: Re: Au Revoir Pires
Post by: Risso on January 05, 2011, 11:34:15 AM
I'm surprised he didn't use his mayonnaise analogy again. Or compare Villa to a souffle, or a galantine, or a dish of sweetbreads

"How do you say...we were offal today, just offal."

Monsieur 'Oullier would rather be at Liver pool.
Title: Re: Au Revoir Pires
Post by: Michel Sibble on January 05, 2011, 01:03:08 PM
porn star's minge! get in!

If you insist. Just a bit of spit and a playful strangling...

I don't know the French for `breath play'. Where is BE when you need him

L'asphyxie érotique? (http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asphyxie_%C3%A9rotique)
You kinky bastards.
Title: Re: Au Revoir Pires
Post by: damon loves JT on January 05, 2011, 01:28:06 PM
L'asphyxie érotique? (http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asphyxie_%C3%A9rotique)
You kinky bastards.

L'asphyxie érotique. How Ronseal.
Title: Re: Au Revoir Pires
Post by: Mazrim on January 05, 2011, 01:32:26 PM
It is the language of love.
Title: Re: Au Revoir Pires
Post by: WikiVilla on January 05, 2011, 02:01:06 PM
If he was a horse he'd have been shot by now
Title: Re: Au Revoir Pires
Post by: PeterWithe on January 05, 2011, 02:38:24 PM
Pires said much the same in a French paper last week, in fact its probably the same interview with a bit of journalistic license.
Title: Re: Au Revoir Pires
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on January 05, 2011, 02:39:21 PM
Pires said much the same in a French paper last week, in fact its probably the same interview with a bit of journalistic license.
That was my first thought too.
Title: Re: Au Revoir Pires
Post by: PeterWithe on January 05, 2011, 03:00:09 PM
He seems to have changed his tune from last week.

http://www.lequipe.fr/Football/breves2011/20101229_175323_pires-houiller-n-est-pas-en-danger.html
Title: Re: Au Revoir Pires
Post by: KevinGage on January 05, 2011, 05:01:18 PM
L'asphyxie érotique? (http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asphyxie_%C3%A9rotique)
You kinky bastards.

L'asphyxie érotique. How Ronseal.

Rafterbating to the Australians.

Michael Hutchence RIP
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