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Title: becks - spurs - the crook is at it again
Post by: pmk1981 on January 02, 2011, 12:17:20 PM
"David fancies it. He would like to come and play here," said Redknapp. "He's a fantastic lad and role model in the way he conducts himself and plays."

bet all beckham has said is "maybe" and now the crook is doing his poaching bit again

tosser

Title: Re: becks - spurs - the crook is at it again
Post by: Chris Smith on January 02, 2011, 12:23:08 PM
I don't like Redknapp but I don't see that he's done anything wrong here. He's free to sign for anyone at the moment so it's not as if he's making an illegal approach or anything like that.
Title: Re: becks - spurs - the crook is at it again
Post by: mrfuse on January 02, 2011, 12:30:18 PM
I dont know why Redknapp is hated so much but it just seems the norm these days to slate everyone.

hes done a fantastic job at spurs and id like to see if he could take on the England job
Title: Re: becks - spurs - the crook is at it again
Post by: TimTheVillain on January 02, 2011, 12:33:19 PM
I dont know why Redknapp is hated so much but it just seems the norm these days to slate everyone.

hes done a fantastic job at spurs and id like to see if he could take on the England job

This, what he said !
Title: Re: becks - spurs - the crook is at it again
Post by: villa1 on January 02, 2011, 12:36:05 PM
Something to do with him having a go at our fans a few years back.

The fact that he talks about players under contract at other clubs.

Allegedly, he is a crook. Brown paper bags and all that.

Granted, he is a good manager and has done brilliantly at Spurs. Would jump at the chance to have him here.
Title: Re: becks - spurs - the crook is at it again
Post by: Pete3206 on January 02, 2011, 12:46:44 PM
Did a great job in 2 spells at Porstmouth and has transformed Spurs from mediocrity to Champions League team. He's a winner and we could do with some of that round here.
Title: Re: becks - spurs - the crook is at it again
Post by: Nev on January 02, 2011, 12:57:38 PM
And took Southampton down.
Title: Re: becks - spurs - the crook is at it again
Post by: richard moore on January 02, 2011, 01:11:50 PM
Did a great job in 2 spells at Porstmouth and has transformed Spurs from mediocrity to Champions League team. He's a winner and we could do with some of that round here.

Remind me of what he has 'won' in his time as a manager? Not that I dispute that we would be far better off with him and that he put the 'is he better than MON?' argument to bed a long time ago...
Title: Re: becks - spurs - the crook is at it again
Post by: PaulMcGrathsNo5Shirt on January 02, 2011, 01:13:04 PM
Did a great job in 2 spells at Porstmouth and has transformed Spurs from mediocrity to Champions League team. He's a winner and we could do with some of that round here.

in the process almost taking Pompey out of business as a result of spending money they didn't have. For a man so experienced you would have thought the likes of Crouch and Defoe and wages of some of the others would have been out of their price structure
Title: Re: becks - spurs - the crook is at it again
Post by: avfcpg on January 02, 2011, 01:14:15 PM
And left Pompey cashless....

I can't see him being England manager, or a good one if he were. He can't buy players to play for England so that would scupper him for a start.

What did VDV say recently? Something along the lines that he likes working with Harry, he keeps it simple & they don't do anything on tactics or anything technical etc etc...made me laugh when I read that.

Maybe being harsh. Just don't rate him.
Title: Re: becks - spurs - the crook is at it again
Post by: LeeB on January 02, 2011, 01:14:33 PM
Did a great job in 2 spells at Porstmouth and has transformed Spurs from mediocrity to Champions League team. He's a winner and we could do with some of that round here.

in the process almost taking Pompey out of business as a result of spending money they didn't have. For a man so experienced you would have thought the likes of Crouch and Defoe and wages of some of the others would have been out of their price structure

It all served the purpose of elevating his own profile.
Title: Re: becks - spurs - the crook is at it again
Post by: manic-road on January 02, 2011, 01:18:27 PM
Did a great job in 2 spells at Porstmouth and has transformed Spurs from mediocrity to Champions League team. He's a winner and we could do with some of that round here.

Remind me of what he has 'won' in his time as a manager? Not that I dispute that we would be far better off with him and that he put the 'is he better than MON?' argument to bed a long time ago...
FA Cup with Pompey, now at a club for the first time that can compete with the so called big 4. Also Spuds wage bill is smaller than Villa's and playing more attractive football than most teams.
Title: Re: becks - spurs - the crook is at it again
Post by: Gaztonniller on January 02, 2011, 01:21:01 PM
"David fancies it. He would like to come and play here," said Redknapp. "He's a fantastic lad and role model in the way he conducts himself and plays."

bet all beckham has said is "maybe" and now the crook is doing his poaching bit again
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This rumour also has the finger prints of the tabloids all over it imho.
Lets face it, the prem has kind of dropped back a bit as an attraction when compared to the Stars playing in La liga. There just dosent seem to be football personalities to fill those newspaper pages.
From what ive seen re: this transfer rumour, the tabloids are also absolutely bigging-up the possibilies of this transfer happening so they can once again fill their vacuous pages.

Title: Re: becks - spurs - the crook is at it again
Post by: mrfuse on January 02, 2011, 01:28:25 PM
And left Pompey cashless....

I can't see him being England manager, or a good one if he were. He can't buy players to play for England so that would scupper him for a start.

What did VDV say recently? Something along the lines that he likes working with Harry, he keeps it simple & they don't do anything on tactics or anything technical etc etc...made me laugh when I read that.

Maybe being harsh. Just don't rate him.

Yeah thats why they have got through the next faze of the champions league and are currently lying in fourth playing the best football in the league, what makes me laugh is a villa fan who currently has a manager without a clue that can laugh at something like that
Title: Re: becks - spurs - the crook is at it again
Post by: Somniloquism on January 02, 2011, 01:37:11 PM
Did a great job in 2 spells at Porstmouth and has transformed Spurs from mediocrity to Champions League team. He's a winner and we could do with some of that round here.

Remind me of what he has 'won' in his time as a manager? Not that I dispute that we would be far better off with him and that he put the 'is he better than MON?' argument to bed a long time ago...
FA Cup with Pompey, now at a club for the first time that can compete with the so called big 4. Also Spuds wage bill is smaller than Villa's and playing more attractive football than most teams.

And has been noted to win the FA cup he gambled and almost lost any other future for Portsmouth.

Spurs wages being smaller then us has more to do with Levy and them buying a lot of promising youth and Eastern European players before Harry got there. He has lost out on several targets as they wouldn't break the wage structure. But give him credit, instead of walking away from the team when he couldn't get his way he has made do with what he has got and took Spurs further then we have been in 15 odd years.
Title: Re: becks - spurs - the crook is at it again
Post by: avfcpg on January 02, 2011, 01:39:00 PM
And left Pompey cashless....

I can't see him being England manager, or a good one if he were. He can't buy players to play for England so that would scupper him for a start.

What did VDV say recently? Something along the lines that he likes working with Harry, he keeps it simple & they don't do anything on tactics or anything technical etc etc...made me laugh when I read that.

Maybe being harsh. Just don't rate him.

Yeah thats why they have got through the next faze of the champions league and are currently lying in fourth playing the best football in the league, what makes me laugh is a villa fan who currently has a manager without a clue that can laugh at something like that

My thoughts on Harry have nowt to do with what manager Villa have, why would they. And yes I do laugh about it. For someone hailed so highly, I found it funny that he doesn't have much to do with tactics etc etc...

As I said, I don't rate him. Just because you do doesn't mean we all have to.

Title: Re: becks - spurs - the crook is at it again
Post by: E I Adio on January 02, 2011, 01:56:58 PM
I dont know why Redknapp is hated so much but it just seems the norm these days to slate everyone.

A statement that you subsequently proved:-

what makes me laugh is a villa fan who currently has a manager without a clue that can laugh at something like that

Title: Re: becks - spurs - the crook is at it again
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on January 02, 2011, 06:05:56 PM
I dont know why Redknapp is hated so much but it just seems the norm these days to slate everyone.


I dont slate everyone, just the ugly cockney overated wide boy at every opportunity. However while I am here I will also slate his son and daughter in law, in particular for that awful Thomas Cook advert they do. I will also slate anybody who has ever played under him or alongside him during his playing career, anybody who has supported any club he has ever managed or played for, anybody vaguely related to him going back at least 4 generations, anybody residing within 5 miles of wherever he may live, any pets he has had past or present, chinese bettings syndicates, the idiot who threw the coin at him because it illicited a nano second of sympathy and understanding for him, anybody whose surname begins `Red..`, and anybody else who is not willing to state  "I hate Harry bloody Redknapp" when so challenged by right thinking football supporters.
Title: Re: becks - spurs - the crook is at it again
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 02, 2011, 06:07:37 PM
I dont know why Redknapp is hated so much but it just seems the norm these days to slate everyone.


I dont slate everyone, just the ugly cockney overated wide boy at every opportunity. However while I am here I will also slate his son and daughter in law, in particular for that awful Thomas Cook advert they do. I will also slate anybody who has ever played under him or alongside him during his playing career, anybody who has supported any club he has ever managed or played for, anybody vaguely related to him going back at least 4 generations, anybody residing within 5 miles of wherever he may live, any pets he has had past or present, chinese bettings syndicates, the idiot who threw the coin at him because it illicited a nano second of sympathy and understanding for him, anybody whose surname begins `Red..`, and anybody else who is not willing to state  "I hate Harry bloody Redknapp" when so challenged by right thinking football supporters.

Including his best friend?
Title: Re: becks - spurs - the crook is at it again
Post by: lovejoy on January 02, 2011, 07:04:53 PM
Redknapp gets a lot of coverage because he's media friendly. He fits hand in glove with Spurs and their fancy Dan but little substance way of operating. Its a bit like Gareth Bale - he's scored some cracking goals but you only see the edited highlights on MOTD. He's been anonymous in may games this season.

Does 'Arry still have a court order hanging over him?
Title: Re: becks - spurs - the crook is at it again
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 02, 2011, 07:09:01 PM
Lot of jealousy on here. I think the bloke is quite despicable most of the time but he's done a really good job at Spurs. And as for that last comment on Bale, is he any different to Ash or Albrighton or Gabby? No player stands out all game long, but Bale has been excellent for most of the season. Sometimes you just have to acknowledge that Redknapp has done well, even if it is through gritted teeth.
Title: Re: becks - spurs - the crook is at it again
Post by: WikiVilla on January 02, 2011, 07:13:13 PM
Harry succeeded where MON failed
Title: Re: becks - spurs - the crook is at it again
Post by: Clark W Griswold on January 02, 2011, 07:34:27 PM
He is dislikeable because he has become such a media darling, and in addition to that he seems to beleive his own hype and revel in it. His son and daughter in law are dislikeable because they have not done anything of note for years, and seem to be involved now in so many advertisments that they are on our screens so much purely for thst reason, as well as when Jamie turns up on sky to largely spout bollocks before and after games, and they are just so smug with it all.
What you cannot deny though is that if Harry had not already proved it before, he has certainly proved what a brilliant manager he is at Tottenham, and i wish we had got him with his brand of football and success than the much blander and less successful football we had under O Neill.
Title: Re: becks - spurs - the crook is at it again
Post by: The Situation on January 02, 2011, 08:16:14 PM
Every man and his dog hates Redknapp; he's a snide, sly, dodgy, stupid Londoner who takes offence when he's praised. I'm sure those spurs fans were calling him pretty much the same before he took them to dreamland quite literally.
Title: Re: becks - spurs - the crook is at it again
Post by: JD on January 02, 2011, 11:40:17 PM
Well he's certainly built a very good and attractive playing team at Spurzzzz (even though I hate saying it  >:().
What he did at Pompey is surely more down to the chairman etc letting him spend money they didn't have. That is surely the owners issue, not the Manager. Smacks of what randy stopped MO'N doing to a certain extent at Villa (allegedly).
Title: Re: becks - spurs - the crook is at it again
Post by: 1_Pablo_Angel on January 03, 2011, 12:20:06 AM
Very good manager but absolute bellend. Precious, self aggrandising, overly sensitive, hypocritical, allegedly criminal twat.
Title: Re: becks - spurs - the crook is at it again
Post by: willywombat on January 03, 2011, 08:22:36 AM
Dont mind him myself, his teams usually play the game the right way and I bet he's not on his own in football being an 'alleged' crook so: C'mon, c'mon -'Urry up 'arry come on - We're going daan the pub
Title: Re: becks - spurs - the crook is at it again
Post by: PeterWithe on January 03, 2011, 12:43:53 PM
I dont know why Redknapp is hated so much but it just seems the norm these days to slate everyone.

My two penneth is that I dont like him because I could name twenty or thirty lads who dont go down the game anymore, mostly because the price of going has rocketed and most of it ends up in the likes of Rednapps pocket, not content with his multi million pound salary, the authorities always seem keen to enlist his help when they need answers on where even more money from transfers has ended up.

Also his rants about 'foul language' that he 'wouldn't dream of using' seem a bit strange when there are plenty of youtube clips of him swearing at someone. Then his butter wouldn't melt approach to other teams players whilst briefing his mates in the media who do his job of unsettling them for him.

Cant stand the fella.
Title: Re: becks - spurs - the crook is at it again
Post by: Pete3206 on January 03, 2011, 12:54:48 PM
As regards to ruining Portsmouth, wasn't that the fault of the many owners and the board of the club?
Title: Re: becks - spurs - the crook is at it again
Post by: avfcpg on January 03, 2011, 01:05:29 PM
As regards to ruining Portsmouth, wasn't that the fault of the many owners and the board of the club?

Well to a certain extent I guess it would be. If the board trusts the manager to spend wisely on wages and fees for players.....hang on, that sounds familiar ;-)
Title: Re: becks - spurs - the crook is at it again
Post by: ozzjim on January 03, 2011, 01:09:29 PM
He left Southampton and Portsmouth in deep shite, and Spurs would be if it were not for the way they structure the deals and the fact their board have more sense and money than the other 2. Redknapp is a squirming, cheating, sell your grandmother type who will one day be found out for being the crook he would appear to be, alledgedly. Can't stand him. His son is slightly less annoying, but seems to think wearing undersized trousers is the way forward on a Sunday afternoon. Strange man.
Title: Re: becks - spurs - the crook is at it again
Post by: KevinGage on January 03, 2011, 01:15:02 PM
Very good manager, doesn't bother me re his patter and at times over familiarity with the media. He's from the old school as per Big Ron, El Tel and co. If he wasn't managing he'd be doing the after dinner speaking circuit. Likes the sound of his own voice, what odds.

You can't imagine Pardew, McCarthy, Pulis, or Alan 'interesting' Curbishley holding anyone's attention going that route. For the latter, hiring him for a night would only make sense if you were aiming for a David Koresh-style mass suicide pact from your guests on conclusion.

Candleface has turned things around at WHL, and fair fcuks to him. Go back as recently as 2006 and he was seen as the archetypal lower end of the table manager. I think he's still been relegated more than any other manager in the topflight and when Pompey appointed him in 2006 he was hardly pulling up trees in the Championship with Southampton.  Makes you wonder what managers with a similar profile and reputation for handling struggling clubs might be capable of given a decent platform.

He's had a hate-hate relationship with most Villa fans since his antics in 2007. We were giving him a bit of stick after the BBC documentary but if he'd been big enough to laugh it off -as the likes of Grobbelaar, Benitez and Seaman often did- nothing more would have been made of it. Instead he took it personal, calling Villa fans 'scum' et.c.  Most of the vitriol seems to have stemmed from then.

That and his less than endearing habit of talking about other clubs players as well, obv.
Title: Re: becks - spurs - the crook is at it again
Post by: Clampy on January 03, 2011, 01:15:21 PM
He's a very good manager and he's done a great job at Spuds.

I've learnt not believe believe a word he says during transfer windows mind you.
Title: Re: becks - spurs - the crook is at it again
Post by: Dave on January 03, 2011, 01:18:59 PM
He left Southampton and Portsmouth in deep shite, and Spurs would be if it were not for the way they structure the deals and the fact their board have more sense and money than the other 2.
So surely it's the clubs' fault?

If they were more sensible like the Spurs board then they wouldn't be in that position.
Title: Re: becks - spurs - the crook is at it again
Post by: mrfuse on January 03, 2011, 01:34:04 PM
He left Southampton and Portsmouth in deep shite, and Spurs would be if it were not for the way they structure the deals and the fact their board have more sense and money than the other 2.
So surely it's the clubs' fault?

If they were more sensible like the Spurs board then they wouldn't be in that position.


yeah you cant blame Redknapp for spending the money if hes been given it, similar to MON it got to a point where our board would not fund any more of his deals so they stopped it and rightly or wrongly MON packed it in.
Title: Re: becks - spurs - the crook is at it again
Post by: E I Adio on January 03, 2011, 03:41:07 PM
If anyone would like to learn more about Redknapp's alleged history of "dodgy dealing" I recommend a quick read of Tom Bower's excellent book "Broken Dreams."

It's still available on Amazon, so I presume he's never been sued over the contents.
Title: Re: becks - spurs - the crook is at it again
Post by: garyshawsknee on January 03, 2011, 07:35:06 PM
They were just saying on 5live,when Beckham signed for Milan,the shirt sales more than paid for his time their,and if he signs for Spurs they expect the same.

 If you're a Spurs why the hell would you buy a shirt for a two month loan player? If he signed for us would anyone be dumb enough to do it ?
Title: Re: becks - spurs - the crook is at it again
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 03, 2011, 07:38:17 PM
They were just saying on 5live,when Beckham signed for Milan,the shirt sales more than paid for his time their,and if he signs for Spurs they expect the same.

 If you're a Spurs why the hell would you buy a shirt for a two month loan player? If he signed for us would anyone be dumb enough to do it ?

novelty value I suppose. I'm sure a lot of Villa fans would buy a Beckham 23 shirt if he joined. Stick to retro is my advice.
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