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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Legion on October 26, 2010, 02:52:52 PM
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Nigel Reo-Coker (http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2197382,00.html)
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He’s the obvious choice and he’s in excellent form.
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No suprise and it's refreshing to see that he has performed well under a manager that has given him a chance.
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His contract renewal has to be nailed on now surely ?
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Sorted.
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.Not sure about Dunne being named vice would have preferred Collins
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Just what we need, hopefully he'll be given it on a permanent basis and sign a new deal.
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interesting... glad hes back in favour now... i do rate reo-coker and think we have missed him when o'neill has his arse in his hands over him...
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If I recall correctly, NRC was immediately given the armband when he broke into MK Dons 1st team as a 19 year old. He's captaincy material for sure.
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I think he was the obvious choice i am happy with GH's decision.
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Actually what makes a player captain material? What specific tasks are involved in that (I have never played football organized, and some would say never played at all )
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Actually what makes a player captain material? What specific tasks are involved in that (I have never played football organized, and some would say never played at all )
Preferably an Influence score of over 15.
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Actually what makes a player captain material? What specific tasks are involved in that (I have never played football organized, and some would say never played at all )
Lots of things really, but when I say 'captain material' I'm usually thinking of being the main voice on the pitch giving out encouragement and rollickings as necessary.
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He’s the obvious choice and he’s in excellent form.
Just as long as he's not thro' on goal !!
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He’s the obvious choice and he’s in excellent form.
Just as long as he's not thro' on goal !!
The moved summed him uyp really. In the 93rd minute of the game he still had the energy to close down, win a tackle and charge thirty yards towards goal, only to lack the final quality in the box.
Our midfield needs him mind.
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I hope he does not bollock anyone over a misplaced pass
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Even when MON decided that playing NRC in any meaningful run of league games would mean that his CSI boxset collection would explode and take with it the Cloughy Quotes hardbacks volumes 1-8 he still sometimes played him in cup games as captain if I remember right. Even during that falling out a stubborn MON saw captain qualities in Nigel. I do too and hope he signs a new contract.
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Aye.
He was still vice captain even when he was nowhere near the starting XI.
Dunne would have been the obvious choice this year if he wasn't so off the pace.
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Actually what makes a player captain material? What specific tasks are involved in that (I have never played football organized, and some would say never played at all )
Preferably an Influence score of over 15.
Bravo sir.
Anyway, my guess is that Dunne didn't get it because he may be warming the bench for a little while.
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You'd have needed your head examined to suggest that at the start of the campaign but I was actually a bit miffed that he got back in the side so easily after the Wolves game.
Certain players are so important to a side that the need to play even if only 70/80% fit such is their influence.
As we've seen with Dunne this year, if he isn't 100% with it he's really no good to anyone. He's had fitness issues with Citeh in the past. At the time they couldn't rotate. We can.
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At his best, there's no one better, but if there's one postion where you can't afford to be inconsistent then it's centre-half.
Or maybe keeper. So two then. But you get the point.
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Well done Nigel. Great player.
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Congrats NRC, I have always liked him especially after last season's match at anfield. Get him signed up to a new contract!
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Happy for him. Let's see if he can further grow into the role.
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Good decision by Mr Houllier and Nigel deserves his role as captain... he looks like a leader and I'm sure everyone's pleased he's been given a second chance by Houllier unlike O'Neill who never bothered to play him.
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Good choice for me, he's been excellent.
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Couldn't agree more, hope his performances continue to improve.
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Great choice and good to see houllier saying nige has been offered a new deal and his agent is in talks with the club , as has brad friedal too!Doesn't look good for Carew though- no mention of him being offered a deal.
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Well done Nigel. Great player.
Oh, come on.
How our standards have slipped when Reo Coker earns the epither "great".
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When he gets the players in a team huddle before the Rags game, you'll be loving it and going mental, Chris. Come on, admit it.
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I've always rated Reo-Coker. When exactly does his contract run out? Is it the end of this season?
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Never rated him, and a couple of half decent games wont change my mind,
think GH will regret his decision,
cant really leave the captain out of the side to often, and NRC isnt good enough to be playing every week in a side if we have any hopes high or otherwise of challenging for top 6.
Chris is right, should take a far better player than Nige, for him to be described as great
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I've always rated Reo-Coker. When exactly does his contract run out? Is it the end of this season?
Yep it is.
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When he gets the players in a team huddle before the Rags game, you'll be loving it and going mental, Chris. Come on, admit it.
And that makes him a great player? Alpay must have been a world beater with all his badge kissing.
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Woops a diasy.
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Woops a diasy.
Wrong thread?
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Never rated him, and a couple of half decent games wont change my mind,
think GH will regret his decision,
cant really leave the captain out of the side to often, and NRC isnt good enough to be playing every week in a side if we have any hopes high or otherwise of challenging for top 6.
Chris is right, should take a far better player than Nige, for him to be described as great
Listen to what Houllier says 'Nigel knows his job and plays for the team' Nigel is a great player for us and I'm confused as to how you can't rate him, I can't remember anything but good performances from the man, he was treated terrible from Martin.
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I love Coker. I thought so often last season he played and made a difference but O Neill, after the bust up just never gave him a chance. Nige would come in, do well and then get dropped. Tail end of last season we were crying out for his energy, especially during a period when even the indefatigable Milner was running on empty.
Remember him in the Peace Cup against Juve, when he was absolutely fantastic. It was then that he looked a quality player. All of a sudden his passing was on the button, and he wasn't giving the ball away cheaply. His pre-season was good and warranted a run early season, which never came. After his fantastic Anfield display, to not get given a run in the team? Insanity on O Neill's part. But yeah, Juve, extra time, pretty much the last minute. We'd been under the cosh, and then suddenly Nigel gets the ball and goes on a barnstorming pitch length run to relieve the pressure (I think he was stopped eventually before he could get a shot away, but at the time it just gave us some much needed respite). I literally couldn't fathom how, after 120 minutes, in a game we chased the ball so much, he could run full pelt, almost the entire length of the pitch. Amazing.
He might not be the most cultured player but he's learnt to keep it simple and keep the ball, which is important. He gets himself out of tight spots with brute strength, grit and determination at times too.
It shouldn't even be a case of temporary IMO. I'd give him the job full-time.
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Coker is like Kaka... except he can't score.
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When he gets the players in a team huddle before the Rags game, you'll be loving it and going mental, Chris. Come on, admit it.
And that makes him a great player? Alpay must have been a world beater with all his badge kissing.
I never said he was a great player, just pointing out you may be a little bit more enthusiastic about NRC on Sunday. Whilst I'm not going to get too excited that he's now captain, especially as he been vice captain for the last few years, I'm not going to pretend he hasn't been playing well. Credit where it's due, even if it is only the last four games.
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But yeah, Juve, extra time, pretty much the last minute. We'd been under the cosh, and then suddenly Nigel gets the ball and goes on a barnstorming pitch length run to relieve the pressure (I think he was stopped eventually before he could get a shot away, but at the time it just gave us some much needed respite). I literally couldn't fathom how, after 120 minutes, in a game we chased the ball so much, he could run full pelt, almost the entire length of the pitch. Amazing.
I remember this. It was ridiculous, had me out my seat and must've been pretty inspiring to the kids surrounding him on the pitch.
I bloody enjoyed that tournament.
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He's the man for the moment, never going to be a great player but may be a very good leader. We have to wait until GH has had a transfer period under his belt to see new faces and more options.
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i think the bloke was treated badly by MON, he was an ever present in his first few seasons and worked hard, its a shame that prople focus on his lack of ability in the final 3rd, but most times he creates those opportunitys by himself, he has been our most consistant performer this season, he is a leader on the pitch by example and that gives him the right to berate those around him that are not pulling thier weight, a good decision
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A scrapper with a good engine, will need that on Sunday when our players get kicked up in the air. Our best player just in front of defence and another mess left by our previous manager that our current one has sorted out very well with the minimum of fuss.
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Well done Nigel. Great player.
Oh, come on.
How our standards have slipped when Reo Coker earns the epither "great".
He's done alright of late. A bit like Heskey, who until last weekend was being hailed as Gerd Muller reincarnated.
They've both got faults as players, they've both got pluses (and NRC's faults are more acceptable, as he doesn't play in a position where the faults get so ruthlessly exposed, and where their cost to the club is so glaringly obvious).
I'm glad they've both been given the chance, it is early days for them, but I hope they take it.
What is interesting is how, under MON, we had an 8.5 million pound, high salary player frozen out because he'd looked at the manager funnily, or trodden on Robbo's Superkings or something, but now he's club captain, getting good reviews, and playing a lot.
Perhaps that puts into perspective the cost to the club of the former manager's falling out with players. If he wants to fall out with them and freeze them out, that's his choice, but had I been Randy, I'd have been thinking of the cost of such acts of pettiness whilst said manager was asking for more money for players.
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i remember times in the distant past when we were crying out for a combatative midfielder, I think NRC on form could play in most prem top teams, i think he will be our player of the season which is a problem
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Anything which marginalises the lamentable petrov is a plus.
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One thing is for sure. He MUST play on Sunday.
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Chris, are you still smartin because reo had a pop at your martin?
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Chris, are you still smartin because reo had a pop at your martin?
Don't be pathetic.
He's a decent player doing a good job that suits the way currently play. I'd pick him every week at the moment but think we'll have to do better if we have any pretensions to challenge at the top end of the table.
I think NRC on form could play in most prem top teams
Then why didn't any of them buy him when he was for sale in the summer? As I said on another thread he's an average footballer but an above average athlete. What I have liked about him this season is that he's shown some discipline, without that he wouldn't be able to hold down a place. Houllier has remarked about him knowing his job where in the past he has said in interviews that he sees himself as an attacking box to box midfielder.
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What is interesting is how, under MON, we had an 8.5 million pound, high salary player frozen out because he'd looked at the manager funnily, or trodden on Robbo's Superkings or something, but now he's club captain, getting good reviews, and playing a lot.
I think having a fight with the manager is bit more than 'looking at him funny'. I think that was all put behind them myself and Martin just preferred the Petrov/Milner partnership, so due to his lack of rotation Nigel wasn't getting much game time. I was an advocate of him being brought back in, and that's as someone who thought Martin was doing a good job, so am glad he's gotten his chance.
As to his relative merits as a player, we can't have a team of Youngs and Irelands who bomb forward and score/create. A football side needs a balance and that's what NRC provides by getting the tackles in, protecting the back 4 and giving these players more freedom to get forward. Were he to be better on the ball that would of course be great, but if that was to the sacrifice of his tenacity and energy we'd lose that balance to the side and probably be poorer for it.
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Well done Reo-Coker, he deserves the captaincy.
I presume he'll definitely play against Burnley then.
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I was a fan of NRC before he joined Villa, and while he can frustrate the hell out of us, it is undeniable he looks transformed under Houllier. He deserves this opportunity and is still at an age where he can develop and improve.
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good to see GH getting the best out of what he's got, NRC, Downing and Heskey are all playing better,
but they are still not good enough in the long run,
all very average, and theres not a club in the top 6 or one that has aspirations for top 6 that would have any of them in the side.
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I wonder how does Richard Dunne as vice-captain fit into the earlier comments of GH about players should be avoiding booze...
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long long long long overdue !! congrats reo. now carry on playing like you have been and hopefully we can fit someone else beside you and that plonker petrov can do one
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I wonder how does Richard Dunne as vice-captain fit into the earlier comments of GH about players should be avoiding booze...
Dunne avoids booze these days, doesn't he?
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Right decision for NRC as captain. You know you get 100% from him every game. He's very passionate and he will give the team a kick up the arse!
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long long long long overdue !! congrats reo. now carry on playing like you have been and hopefully we can fit someone else beside you and that plonker petrov can do one
Cokers not fit to lace Petrovs boots
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long long long long overdue !! congrats reo. now carry on playing like you have been and hopefully we can fit someone else beside you and that plonker petrov can do one
Cokers not fit to lace Petrovs boots
Theres a joke in there about petrovs "fitness", but im tired
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Reo-Coker was utterly arse tonight, and he is most definitely the worst finisher in the Premier League.
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very quite on Cokers thread today, i thought he was the new Des Bremner ?
last night he played more like Rory Bremner
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Nigel Reo Coker is the only professional footballer in the known universe who I would bet on myself to score ahead of.