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Heroes & Villains => Villa Memories => Topic started by: freakypete on August 24, 2010, 07:19:50 PM
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mayb im getting old, but i yearn for THE HOLE IN THE WALL DALE END,THE BALLOONS ON THE HOLTE END STANDING,WATCHING BRIAN LITTLE PLAY,AWAY DAYS ,THE LOCORNO..........HEROES IN CLARET AND BLUE PLAYING FOR THE SHIRT
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jumpers for goalposts
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a time before the caps lock button?
maybe you should just feel lucky you were there.
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jumpers for goalposts
small boys...dog muck on the ball...isn't it? mmm?
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ABBA? Bay City Rollers? No jobs? Strikes?
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Being best man at my mate's wedding the Saturday Villa drew 2-2 at Lestaahhh, and Chris Nicholl scored all four goals.
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I quite like the sound of a three day week.
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Findus crispy pancakes
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Austin Allegros, left at the side of the road, because the steering had collapsed, Again !
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Getting promoted twice, winning 2 league cups (and losing another whilst in the Third Division) and thumping the European Champions 5-1.
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Brian little's mullet andy gray's goals
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Austin Allegros, left at the side of the road, because the steering had collapsed, Again !
Or a Morris Ital. Ital only go if you push it.
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White dog shit, Spangles and starry jumpers
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ok mayb i look back with rose coloured spectacles,but it was the rebirth,a truely exciting time,great music,2 league cups ,2 promotions beating liverpool in youth cup final,seing leighton phillips decking kenny burns,quadrophenia mod revival,tower ballroom,being 19 and ready to take the world on,going on the steamers coach on away days.scarfs round your wrists,buying so many balloons on away games you gave most of them away. :D
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The breathtaking football we played in 76-77, and the tonkings we handed out to so many teams at VP that season, not just the 5-1 against Liverpool.
I still maintain that was the most entertaining Villa side I've ever seen.
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Brian little's mullet andy gray's goals
More of a lion or feather cut than a mullet I think.
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The breathtaking football we played in 76-77, and the tonkings we handed out to so many teams at VP that season, not just the 5-1 against Liverpool.
I still maintain that was the most entertaining Villa side I've ever seen.
Totally agree
My first game was the opener in 1976 against West ham.
The demolition of Liverpool still rates as the best 45 minutes football i've seen
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The breathtaking football we played in 76-77, and the tonkings we handed out to so many teams at VP that season, not just the 5-1 against Liverpool.
I still maintain that was the most entertaining Villa side I've ever seen.
Villa Park by day, Barbarellas by night. Never a better time to be teenager.
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Austin Allegros
My first ever car was a 1978 Allegro.....
Brown 1100 "deluxe", a gift from Alex Alex Cropley on this site. Drank more oil than petrol
Got done for speeding in it, driving down to Bournemouth to see Villa in the second division
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Are you sure you got done for speeding in an Allegro?????????
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;Dyes 76 77 what a great season of entertaining football ,punk rock and new wave,the mod revival round the corner,oh to be 19 again......hole in the wall great away days,sexy babes,sunshine stuffing the aussies in the ashes, tiswas.
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The breathtaking football we played in 76-77, and the tonkings we handed out to so many teams at VP that season, not just the 5-1 against Liverpool.
I still maintain that was the most entertaining Villa side I've ever seen.
and I would agree with you. Little, Gray, Deehan all lethal that season.
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The breathtaking football we played in 76-77, and the tonkings we handed out to so many teams at VP that season, not just the 5-1 against Liverpool.
I still maintain that was the most entertaining Villa side I've ever seen.
Villa Park by day, Barbarellas by night. Never a better time to be teenager.
Villa Park by day, Barbarellas by night. Never a better time to be teenager.
The breathtaking football we played in 76-77, and the tonkings we handed out to so many teams at VP that season, not just the 5-1 against Liverpool.
I still maintain that was the most entertaining Villa side I've ever seen.
Villa Park by day, Barbarellas by night. Never a better time to be teenager.
I must have seen you strutting your stuff on the dance floor Chris, cos that was my day too. Sundays at the phillibuster (sp?) Ah it was good to be young :)
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The breathtaking football we played in 76-77, and the tonkings we handed out to so many teams at VP that season, not just the 5-1 against Liverpool.
I still maintain that was the most entertaining Villa side I've ever seen.
and I would agree with you. Little, Gray, Deehan all lethal that season.
Totally agree. What a great time 1974-1977 was to be a Villa fan and then capped off in the early eighties when something even more special happened.
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yes oh for those happy far off days ,promotions league cups ,great players characters,our first european adventures,chatting the vintage women up in the tower ballroom on a saturday night.the sweeny ,the profesionals.star soccer sunday roasts,rum runner,fulham knocking small heath out the F A cup.
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Austin Allegros
My first ever car was a 1978 Allegro.....
Brown 1100 "deluxe", a gift from Alex Alex Cropley on this site. Drank more oil than petrol
Got done for speeding in it, driving down to Bournemouth to see Villa in the second division
Chico
As they say today Respect
Done for speeding in an Austin Allegro 1100
I used to shit myself everytime mine went over 30
Mind you the Metro wasn't much better!
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Paying 7p to get the special bus from the Priory to Villa Park. Football Special trains from Platform 12 at New St with half of those on board jumping off at the destination before the train had stopped.
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Are you sure you got done for speeding in an Allegro?????????
Must have been going down a very steep hill
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The breathtaking football we played in 76-77, and the tonkings we handed out to so many teams at VP that season, not just the 5-1 against Liverpool.
I still maintain that was the most entertaining Villa side I've ever seen.
Agree with the last comment. I was only 12 at the time but that was a truly great season.
Ipswich 5 - 2 with a Gray hat trick stands out for me
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The breathtaking football we played in 76-77, and the tonkings we handed out to so many teams at VP that season, not just the 5-1 against Liverpool.
I still maintain that was the most entertaining Villa side I've ever seen.
Agree with the last comment. I was only 12 at the time but that was a truly great season.
Ipswich 5 - 2 with a Gray hat trick stands out for me
Was that the game where their keeper,Laurie Sival (?) lost a fair few teeth in a challenge with Gray?
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The breathtaking football we played in 76-77, and the tonkings we handed out to so many teams at VP that season, not just the 5-1 against Liverpool.
I still maintain that was the most entertaining Villa side I've ever seen.
Agree with the last comment. I was only 12 at the time but that was a truly great season.
Ipswich 5 - 2 with a Gray hat trick stands out for me
Was that the game where their keeper,Laurie Sival (?) lost a fair few teeth in a challenge with Gray?
Laurie Sivell. Only 5'8" Gray at his most aggressive . Surprised he had any left!
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Great days. Paris Commune, Anglo-Zulu War protest marches, Villa being founded. It was an exciting time to be alive.
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The breathtaking football we played in 76-77, and the tonkings we handed out to so many teams at VP that season, not just the 5-1 against Liverpool.
I still maintain that was the most entertaining Villa side I've ever seen.
Agree with the last comment. I was only 12 at the time but that was a truly great season.
Ipswich 5 - 2 with a Gray hat trick stands out for me
Was that the game where their keeper,Laurie Sival (?) lost a fair few teeth in a challenge with Gray?
Laurie Sivell. Only 5'8" Gray at his most aggressive . Surprised he had any left!
IIRC Laurie Sivell lost his teeth in the world's dullest game, a 0-0 v Ipswich in our first season back in 75-76. This was the infamous game where a large flock of pigeons settled on the half way line and were undisturbed by the tedium on the pitch. Literally the only action was a pile driver from somebody which hot the bar and rebounded out where Sivell and Andy Gray clashed.
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Barbarellas seeing the jam when they was just making it then into the soul room to dance all night
Watching generation x there with whole room chanting "billy is a wanker"
Singing the "when your smiling when your smiling the Holte end smiles with you" which should still be our song
Your new doc martens and Baggie cords for the Boxing Day game
My Morris 1000 pick up 3 in the front 6 in the back to away games
Andy grays debut
Brian littles two goals v Everton to win leAgue cup
Chris Nichols 40 yard equaliser
Villa support At the sty first game in div 1 whole of tilton road roof of tilton up the floodlights big mob in railway end and scoreboard end to ( that's what you call support blue noses)
First pint in the plough at rubbery
Watching in awe as the Barcelona of that time was 5-1 down at half time
76-77 team in full flight ( can we clone john gidman)
18 years of age not a care in the world and folllowing villa everywhere it didn't get any better
48,000 at vp v Bournemouth
54,000 v santos with Chico Hamilton best player on the park
I gotta stop now I'm welling up
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The Hole In The Wall! Great memories of that place. And The Cabin: the Villa Special buses used to depart from across the road. In the days when you used to get frisked going into all of the pubs in town, I remember one night there was a very presentable female on frisking duty and many youths were going round for seconds.
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Saturdays for watching, Sundays for playing.
Only shop open on a Sunday was the paper shop in the morning, and the outdoor at night.... and that was everything you'd need.
Kick-offs always 3 o'clock Saturday and 7.30 Wednesday.
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Bog rolls being chucked
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Little blue invalid cars parked next to the pitch. Although that might have been just Stamford Bridge.
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Little blue invalid cars parked next to the pitch. Although that might have been just Stamford Bridge.
And Highfield Road ?
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Also the away games in the 70s no booking history no tickets no waiting for general sale you just went and you always got in, thousands upon thousands of us
Those were the days my friend
We took the Stretford end
We took the Kop
We took the fooking lot
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The breathtaking football we played in 76-77, and the tonkings we handed out to so many teams at VP that season, not just the 5-1 against Liverpool.
I still maintain that was the most entertaining Villa side I've ever seen.
Agree with the last comment. I was only 12 at the time but that was a truly great season.
Ipswich 5 - 2 with a Gray hat trick stands out for me
Dad took me to that, wasn't 1 of the goals a diving header about 6" off the ground.
The following season Dad took me again to the Ipswich game, IIRC I was disappointed Andy wasn't playing but we won that game 6-1
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Dad took me to that, wasn't 1 of the goals a diving header about 6" off the ground.
The following season Dad took me again to the Ipswich game, IIRC I was disappointed Andy wasn't playing but we won that game 6-1
I recall Ipswich being in control of that 5-2 game initially but Andy Gray was at his irrepressible best and simply took the game away from them. He was unstoppable.
A significant factor in the 6-1 game was that it was the week before the FA Cup Final and Ipswich rested a lot of their big players. David Geddis came in for them though and I think scored their goal.
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1968 - 1978 , my Golden years.
First away game on my own as a 13 year old, the Sty. Rioch,s 35 yarder in the net. It rained bricks as we went in and the Villa infiltrated the Tilton with cops on horses splitting the fans up by the floodlight nearest the Kop. what an introduction.
Unbroken run of games at home.
Running Coaches to away games
more away games than I can remember
Hole in the wall
Any other pub in town that we felt we should visit.
Reading this thread, looking at children of the Revolution, remembering old friends (some no longer with us )
I have a tear in my eye
More adventures than the famous five.
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The '70's were indeed golden years, regular exciting football, supporters full of optimism and expectation, a constantly entertaining and improving team and slowly but surely moving in the right direction made all the more heart warming and satisfying by having stood through the miserable, desperate, slow motion car crash stuff served up in the '60's.
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1968 - 1978 , my Golden years.
First away game on my own as a 13 year old, the Sty. Rioch,s 35 yarder in the net. It rained bricks as we went in and the Villa infiltrated the Tilton with cops on horses splitting the fans up by the floodlight nearest the Kop. what an introduction.
Unbroken run of games at home.
Running Coaches to away games
more away games than I can remember
Hole in the wall
Any other pub in town that we felt we should visit.
Reading this thread, looking at children of the Revolution, remembering old friends (some no longer with us )
I have a tear in my eye
More adventures than the famous five.
The City fans will never mock
When they remember Bruce Rioch
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Two of us travelling down to Highbury for the LC replay with QPR having bunked off school with no money for food or to get in.
Busking/begging for change from Villans outside the Clock End and a bloke sharing his slab of bread and butter pudding with us and anothe rpaying for us to get in...
Waving our home-made flag with the still-drying paint (shame about the fella who kissed it and had a claret face all the way home!)...
So many memories
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The..A V..floodlights
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The football shaped kiosk on top of the Witton End, the way the Witton used to split in half and empty when it poured down as people headed for the Trinity roof and witton lane overhang, watching the half times go up in the manual scoreboard-agonisingly slow, "Villa vouchers are valuable" -they were, got me to Wembley twice!, the club shop tiny and crammed under the Trinity Road steps, all night queuing for big match tickets, the Holte Pub last pint in at 2.30 and on the Holte by 2.50, Villa trotting out last to an explosion of noise, pitches that turned from lush, to boggy, to beaches to rock hard to rock hardbeaches as the season progressed, 70 empty double decker buses clogging up Witton Island after everygame, Jimmy Cumbes kicking plastic footballs to the back of the Holte in our last 3rd div game, "get that one sub on-he's going to turn the game" , matchballs being hoofed over the Witton Lane stand by donkey centre-halves bouncing in the road and a ball boy being despatched to race to get it before the local kids did. Whoops I was only going to write one thing .............................................
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The..A V..floodlights
I believe they were first used in 1971. I have been trying to think when we got rid of them. Around 1991 I reckon.
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Thinking about it makes me want to fuckin cry...We spent a large part of the 70's outside the top flight but I am fairly sure that some years only Man.U..had larger average attendances.We had respect [ grudgingly admitted] from a lot of other supporters..Where the fuck did it all go wrong..! Turn back the clock I say and let's do it all again.Proper football,proper music strikes and unemployment. The politicians say we don't have the latter any more.
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Just to let anyone know that the book children of the revolution about villa in the 70s I just purchased from lion books in Kidderminster brand new and still in the cellophane from the publishers for £30. The owner purchased the lot from Richard whitehead some years ago when he was raising funds to see the ashes in oz. absolute bargain purchase for villa fans from that era.
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Ive just watched the first half of Bristol Rovers v Villa from about 1974. No doubt I was there but the only thing I remember about Eastville is the flower beds behind the goal. I had never seen that before.
Good job Chris Nichol is in form, nobody else is. Gidman and Ray Graydon keep running into trouble. Graham Moseley in goal.
As its half time and 0-0 I shall have a tepid cup of tea and a stale pie!
Anyway second halves about to begin. Come on the claret and blues!
Well we had a strike force of Sammy Morgan and..Bobby Campbell. Campbell did well in the lower leagues especially for Bradford if my memory serves me well. Worth watching for the commercials at half time (Harry Worth's in one) andthat Jimmy Saville. Often wondered what became of him!
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The demolition of Liverpool still rates as the best 45 minutes football i've seen
I seem to remember we could've had another couple in the second half - remember Ray Clemence (whose day had been complete at hampden Park 6 months earlier !) making a couple of good saves.
WHY OH WHY did ITV choose to take their cameras to see a 0-0 draw that night at Derby ???????
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Because the chief football reporter/head of sport(?) for ITV Midlands at the time was one Trevor East, a known Derby County supporter, that, added to the fact that Derby had just signed Derek Hales from Charlton for, I think 100 grand where he had been a prolific goalscorer in the lower leagues. He fired blanks at Derby IIRC.
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Because the chief football reporter/head of sport(?) for ITV Midlands at the time was one Trevor East, a known Derby County supporter, that, added to the fact that Derby had just signed Derek Hales from Charlton for, I think 100 grand where he had been a prolific goalscorer in the lower leagues. He fired blanks at Derby IIRC.
Aksherly it was Gary Newbon, and Hales was a record transfer so the decision made sense.
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Didn't Gary Newbon just front the sports news bulletins and East the main man? That's how I remember it. I definitely remember the night after Newbon appearing on the sports news looking kind of sheepish and offering some kind of half-arsed apology along the lines of we can't have cameras everywhere.
I'm sure I read somewhere ages ago that Trevor East laid some of the groundwork for Sky when they first invented football. I think he did this after initially opposing the whole Sky deal. Anyway, East had a fairly high profile. I just don't recall Newbon being the main man, but I've been away a long time.
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Didn't Gary Newbon just front the sports news bulletins and East the main man? That's how I remember it. I definitely remember the night after Newbon appearing on the sports news looking kind of sheepish and offering some kind of half-arsed apology along the lines of we can't have cameras everywhere.
I'm sure I read somewhere ages ago that Trevor East laid some of the groundwork for Sky when they first invented football. I think he did this after initially opposing the whole Sky deal. Anyway, East had a fairly high profile. I just don't recall Newbon being the main man, but I've been away a long time.
Newbon was head of sport, East was his deputy. East was ITV head of sport in 1992 then joined Sky.
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Ah, I had all the right notes, just played them in the wrong order.
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Ive just watched the first half of Bristol Rovers v Villa from about 1974. No doubt I was there but the only thing I remember about Eastville is the flower beds behind the goal. I had never seen that before.
Good job Chris Nichol is in form, nobody else is. Gidman and Ray Graydon keep running into trouble. Graham Moseley in goal.
As its half time and 0-0 I shall have a tepid cup of tea and a stale pie!
Anyway second halves about to begin. Come on the claret and blues!
Well we had a strike force of Sammy Morgan and..Bobby Campbell. Campbell did well in the lower leagues especially for Bradford if my memory serves me well. Worth watching for the commercials at half time (Harry Worth's in one) andthat Jimmy Saville. Often wondered what became of him!
Stamford Bridge mid 60's may have had flowers too, but that may be my memory playing tricks.
We had some really good games at Eastville. The league cup 1-1 in 70/71 was one of the best games I've ever seen. The ground did look a bit odd with the big tote board mounted up in the roof and the flower beds.
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I went to that League Cup game on my own. I was stood in amongst all the home supporters and it got a bit scary when we scored. Not half as scary as the ambush on the way back to the station. I always liked Bristol Rovers for some reason, still do.
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Didn't Gary Newbon just front the sports news bulletins and East the main man? That's how I remember it. I definitely remember the night after Newbon appearing on the sports news looking kind of sheepish and offering some kind of half-arsed apology along the lines of we can't have cameras everywhere.
I'm sure I read somewhere ages ago that Trevor East laid some of the groundwork for Sky when they first invented football. I think he did this after initially opposing the whole Sky deal. Anyway, East had a fairly high profile. I just don't recall Newbon being the main man, but I've been away a long time.
I remember Trevor East when he was on Tiswas!
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Must admit I would have loved to have been around watching the 76/77 team, as I've heard so much about it from mates down VP. The best I've seen is 92/93, but 76/77 team sounds like it puts even that team in the shade.
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I enjoyed the 74/75 promotion from the second division and would regard that as the best season in my supporting memory. We travelled to all away matches and at home we almost always won with ease and style ending the season with 8 straight wins. I particularly remember the last home game v Sunderland with about 57000 in Villa Park and thousands of Sunderland supporters in Aston Park. We ended any last chance Sunderland had of going up in 3rd place by beating them however did try to mend it for them by beating Norwich 4-1 in the last game but they had messed it up by than.
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I was at that Sunderland match and, remember what I was doing before and after it, but, don't laugh, I can't for the life of me remember the friggin score! Was it either 4-1 or 2-0? It'll save me looking it up if someone will oblige.
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If you'd been told at the end of that 74/75 season that we'd go on to become league champions under Ron Saunders I think there'd have been no reason to be surprised.
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IIRC Laurie Sivell lost his teeth in the world's dullest game, a 0-0 v Ipswich in our first season back in 75-76. This was the infamous game where a large flock of pigeons settled on the half way line and were undisturbed by the tedium on the pitch. Literally the only action was a pile driver from somebody which hot the bar and rebounded out where Sivell and Andy Gray clashed.
I do believe it was a shot from Chris Nicholl somewhere in Handsworth. A practice shot as a prelude to Old Trafford in 77. I remember the pigeons.
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I was at that Sunderland match and, remember what I was doing before and after it, but, don't laugh, I can't for the life of me remember the friggin score! Was it either 4-1 or 2-0? It'll save me looking it up if someone will oblige.
2-0 and from memory I think Ross and Graydon.
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Cheers Aftab, I remember now you've said it. Great weather that day too.
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Ross and Little, I think.
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I was at that Sunderland match and, remember what I was doing before and after it, but, don't laugh, I can't for the life of me remember the friggin score! Was it either 4-1 or 2-0? It'll save me looking it up if someone will oblige.
2-0 and from memory I think Ross and Graydon.
My first match age 15 - I can't remember anything other than leaving Stourbridge on the train with a load of Villa - then the excitement took over and I was in a dream for the whole day just fragments remain - the crowd was huge - we won - we ran on the pitch at the end - I had some of the turf - we talked to Sunderland fans - the emotional impact of that day has never left me and I still have echoes of it every time I set out for VP aged 55. Little did I know what a tremendous few years we had ahead!
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The Holte was heaving that day the sun was shining and we was going up
It just didn't get any better did it
Oh yes it did only few years later we had the wonderful attacking team of gray deehan little Cropley etc etc
Then 4 years and 5 years later someone remind me what happened on yes we ruled half of the footballing world
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That day on the Pitch, check the pictures in Ron's Scrapbook.
One of the happiest days of my villa supporting life.
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I thought Keith Leonard scored . what a player he could have been.
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I was at that Sunderland match and, remember what I was doing before and after it, but, don't laugh, I can't for the life of me remember the friggin score! Was it either 4-1 or 2-0? It'll save me looking it up if someone will oblige.
2-0 and from memory I think Ross and Graydon.
Ian Ross (a penalty), and Brian Little scored that day. It was scorching hot, the Holte End was packed and closed about an hour before kick off, nearly 57,000 in attendance. I remember people who had fainted being carried down the Holte above the heads of fans, then at full time we were all on the pitch to celebrate our promotion. Happy days indeed.
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Is it common knowledge that Louis Van Gaal has played at Villa Park? He was in the Royal Antwerp team that beat us home and away in the old UEFA Cup in 1974/5, our first ever competitive tie in Europe.
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Some snap shots:
The Balloons at Southampton in the cup, West Ham Boxing day, the Ipswich 5-2 game (previous season it had been 0-0), the league cup finals and plenty of semis. Everton away first away win in the top division some 12 months after gaining promotion, followed only 2 weeks later with Gray's goal at Sunderland.
Beating Liverpool at Anfield on bonfire night, really dodgy day out. Winning and losing at the sty, the Saturday after OT at Coventry - 2 nil down won 3-2. The specials, yes the Hole in the wall, Witton End, Jimmy Rimmer, Leicester away in the league, so so many memories
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Great days, the 76/77 squad was the most exciting football I have ever seen from a Villa team, the game v Liverpool will never be forgotten. The Ipswich game, I think ayoung John Wark was playing centre back, remember a subsequent programme of Andy beating him to a header. The 74/75 team was superb from Sir Ron, my first trip to Wembley to be behind the goal when Ray Graydon got the rebound in v a great keeper in Kevin Keelen
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If you'd been told at the end of that 74/75 season that we'd go on to become league champions under Ron Saunders I think there'd have been no reason to be surprised.
Amazing looking back how a 2nd Division manager won the FA Manager Of Year award. Fully deserved too.
Reharding the 57,000 at Villa Park for the Sunderland game, there were thousands locked out. My father's mate, who went with us to most home and away games that season, made his own way there that day, arrived at 1.30pm and still didn't get in. I gave him a bit of my Villa Park turf for his lawn as some form of compensation. He'd followed the Villa since the early 50's and was absolutely gutted to miss out on that day. My father made a rule of never mentioning it in his company.
Thinking about it, he went to Wembley and Hillsborough but missed out at Old Trafford in 77 too. Possibly the two best games to be a Villa fan in the 70's.
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Great days, the 76/77 squad was the most exciting football I have ever seen from a Villa team, the game v Liverpool will never be forgotten. The Ipswich game, I think ayoung John Wark was playing centre back, remember a subsequent programme of Andy beating him to a header. The 74/75 team was superb from Sir Ron, my first trip to Wembley to be behind the goal when Ray Graydon got the rebound in v a great keeper in Kevin Keelen
I was only 12 in 77 but that is my favourite season ever. Saw lots of the games and loved everything about the team
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the promotion games 1975 - the game that is often forgotten the come back against Albion around easter, Blackpool and Sheff Wed.
West Ham Boxing day and the 51,000 crowd, of course Old Trafford league cup replay, and how about Tottenham away the 4-1 win - think we had beaten Wolves first game of that season.
Andy Gray hated the way he left for Wolves but what a player
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Silk scarves (or silk like)
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the promotion games 1975 - the game that is often forgotten the come back against Albion around easter, Blackpool and Sheff Wed.
I went to all those games, and endorse what was said above about the game v West Brom, which we won 3-1 (all goals at the Holte End) after being a goal down. Albion had beaten us three times in a row before we beat them that day, and above any other game in that great season I think it was winning that one that instilled the belief that there would be no stopping us.
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Silk scarves (or silk like)
To be worn tied round your wrist whilst sporting a leather, sorry, leatherette bomber jacket.
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Remember that West Brom game, think we went a goal down, mad snow & sleet storm, John Wile flicking the V,s at the Holte, & Chico scoring .
Got a feeling it was on MOTD?